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Effectively Wild Episode 1556: Zero to Sixty

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Effectively Wild Episode 1556: Zero to Sixty

"Welcome to fifteen, fifty, six effectively wild fan graphs baseball podcast brought to you by our Patriot supporters. I'm Meg, Rally Fan Graphs and I enjoy his always read, Ben. Burgers during our Ben. How're you? Doing all right, are you doing okay? are here to do some emails so interest gonna go straight into it. Will have an extra episode this week. So you've can look forward to that on your feeds sometime soon, but now listener emails and step last score, so we've gotten a couple genres of question here, and this is one that multiple people have sent so Sean Patriots supporter says what if someone bets for hundred, the season with that count has anyone carried that through sixty games in recent years? It seems like this is the only. Only season where it would be possible in my lifetime and similar question from Lewis another patriots supporter, who says if we get a shortened season? How do you think we will look at performances that could end up being significant or even record-setting most years hitting four hundred would be he a huge story and seen as a historic accomplishment because hitting four hundred over one hundred sixty two games is so difficult it is not. Not Content and nearly eighty years hitting four hundred over fifty or sixty games with easy, but I don't think it out of the realm of possibility, if a player hits four hundred, this season viewed. I can't imagine anybody thinking. It was as impressive as it would be. If it was an irregular one hundred sixty two game season, but it would be the first time this has happened since nineteen forty, one and arguments can be. Be made that hitting four hundred after the longer off season could be more impressive. The same would go for a player breaking Dutch Leonard's Post Nineteen Hundred Yara, Record Pedro's whip record or Berry bonzes on base percentage slugging and s records. How would these accomplishments be seen, and would mlp require an asterisk in the record books I? Mean almost certainly we would. I think we're gonNA think about everything that happens this season differently. I think that properly contextualized like there are aspects of baseball history that we do not require to transpire over a complete. You know season however long. That was at the time to be impressive. Right we, we like streaks rebound streaks in his stray within goes rick rule whether they're hitting streaks or games played, and so I think that there could be things that we find to be impressive, but I would imagine that any of the big records. We probably are going to think carefully about displacing I. Guess Right I think so yeah, and I don't know that we need an actual asterisk. That we can just hold that in our heads. We all know you know maybe in some far distant future where they're bidden. Thousands of baseball seasons, and no one remembers individual seasons, which would be nice if we ended up surviving that long as a species and played baseball, but if you got to that point where no one just knew instinctively that Oh twenty twenty, that was that year was sixty games then I, guess maybe, but even then like presumably you would see the number of games or the number of at bats or plate, appearances or something. Something I think the stats speak for themselves. I think the numbers speak for themselves, so yeah, it's still quite unlikely that it will happen David, show infield. ESPN wrote this week since two thousand. Only one player has hit four hundred over the first sixty games of a season was chipper Jones hit four eight in two thousand eight, and over the past ten years, the highest average was cody bellinger's three seventy six mark last year. That's just the first sixty games as opposed to any sixty games, but still I think the odds are pretty remote at. Like if you're a true talent, three thirty hitter, even then the odds are like one in forty that you would do it now. I don't know that there are any three thirty true talent hitters. Of course there are many hitters and there many opportunities to fluke into this, but it's still probably not going to happen I. Still Think it would be fun if it happens. You know I don't know. I guess you could say well if we don't really think it's that meaningful or impressive than why would we even care? Care, but it would just be kind of a fun quirky thing to follow I. Think like I'm rooting for weird strange statistical quirks and I won't treat them the same way as I would over a full season of course, but it would still be fun to see that stat line preserved forever right into go to baseball reference and see four hundred I mean I guess you could maybe find instances of that in some tiny number of plate appearances already, but to do it over sixty games would still be impressive. I think it would be fun thing to track as the short season wound down so I hope someone makes a run at it. I think that we've talked about this a lot on this show over over the years, but I'll firm it a little differently now. I really like it when baseball reminds us how hard it is. I appreciate very much when we are giving opportunity to marvel at the skill that players exhibit by doing their jobs really well, because it's such a, it's such a challenging thing, and I think that we just tend to discount in a way. That really does a disservice to the skill on the field. Just how hard baseball is. That's one of the only things that don't miss about. Hitting action is that they're just so bad. And yet they're like athletic people who were. Great hitters when they were in high school or whatever, and so just seeing that contrast reminds you how great the other hitters are. Yeah and I think that, perhaps because they you know baseball players can come in all shapes and sizes, and their athleticism isn't always as. You Know Chisel than a parent. As say like a you know some position, some skill positions in football. You know there are definitely some some linemen who don't fit that description, but you know I think because they can look a lot of different ways. We tend to forget just how much skill and athletic precision is required to do baseball while and I like when we remember that. So and I look forward to uh-huh. If. We have fun little weird statistical auditees to chase great if we end up, not having any because it turns out that as you said six games isn't nothing, and it's hard to to replicate that kind of performance over sixty game stretch. Well, that's that's useful to Yeah when SEAN SAYS WOULD IT, count? Yeah would count it. It would be the batting average hit. That person would have gotten hits and forty percent of his fats. And when he went to his baseball reference page, it would say four hundred, and so it would count, but it wouldn't count in the sense that we wouldn't give as much weight to it and I. Don't Think I. WanNa use the terms illegitimate or talk about records being less legitimate because. It's not like they cheated. They didn't bring about these conditions themselves I would call it less decisive, less definitive west, impressive something like that, but less unlikely. Whatever, but you know it's legitimate. You did it with the rules that were in place at the time and. was facing those same conditions, but I guess he would have some decisions to make like. Baseball reference does that thing for all time records on its stat pages were like bulbs and I. Tell assizes them if they're wick the all time record, so I guess Sean Foreman would have to decide well. Are we going to I? Tell us is this as an all time record and I would opt for probably not doing that and you know I. Assume that like their lists of Gosh I i. don't know like four hundred is not. It's not like. Like a record thing, it's not like four hundred hitters. Club is kind of an informal thing, so you wouldn't have to decide like. Does this person qualify for that or not? But if it is an actual record that would be listed in baseball encyclopedias if they still print those or on baseball, reference or MO DOT com, or whatever you would have to make some editorial decision then about do we put this there? Do we not put it there, do we? We put it there with notre something. Because you know, you can't count on everyone knowing these things, and if you just put like, Oh list of the lowest, Dra is ever in a qualifying season, and you still have the same qualifiers where it's like you know. An inning pitched per team game or three point one plate appearances per team game, and you just list the number for qualifiers than you might have to make some decisions about what we exclude this. This where we put an asterisk or something, but I think mostly we can just kind of all know it when we see it. Yeah, I think that we are less good about remembering the specifics of even catastrophic events than we think we are, and so I'm sure that there will as time goes on and sort of our exact memory of twenty twenty fades that there will be times where a guy gets sort of. You're responsible so and so much weightier. Than it is I think we all have a good perspective on responsibility now, but. You know there will be. There'll be times when a guy from twenty twenty sort of a ruinously included in a table when he shouldn't be but I also think that when we look at when we look back on it and we see out liars in the statistical record might prompt you know future generations of baseball researchers to say, Gosh, what was what exactly was going on in two, thousand twenty, and then the Ellia. That hits that year. My parents won't shut up about. And they'll have occasion to go back in and. Sort of grapple with our strange taxing time, and that that's not a that's not necessarily a bad thing to have as a as a reason. It's like when you know it's like when trees have abberant rings because of environmental conditions it. It tells us something about the time. That is perhaps not pleasant, but as useful also that part's not bad good analogy should alert Scott Boras about that one. Yeah, it's got. Yeah I was thinking about that, too, because I was writing about the twenty twenty season, and what a sixty game season would look like, and all the randomness involved, and as I was doing some searches and making some tables for that article, I was filtering out like nine, hundred, ninety, four and nineteen, eighty one, when I was looking for certain things which you get used to doing when you. You do baseball now says filter out the weird smaller sample seasons when you're doing some types of studies, and for as long as I. Am Writing About Baseball I. will be filtering out twenty twenty from queries. You know assuming they're even as a twenty twenty season, but it is going to be one of those words like every time. I see it. It'll be like Oh that was weird. It's like it's like in the episode of the x files were they cut open a tree and then the bugs out that. Yeah exactly just like that. Shoot! Belated question from Matthew and other Patriot, supporter. I've been thinking a lot about how we'll view the world series champion if we make it through the season. I know what things could happen to ensure. More people view the years a fluke. Lots of player absences due to Co Vid, the Mariners winning the world series of cheap shot, but I'm more curious about what could happen to convince. The most people view this as a real season, maybe if all of Of the presumptive favorites make the playoffs if the nationals repeat if the team that wins the series wins next year to could this season play out in a manner that convinces it resulted in a proper champion Oh. Gosh, I mean I think the most important thing is probably the WHO of it and I don't just mean the winner the eventual winner, but also the fields that eventual winner has to navigate through in order to get there so i. I think that the most important thing that could happen to sort of legitimize that world series when her has already happened in that, we do not have expanded playoffs this year. Yes, I think that if we'd had expanded playoffs, even a team like the Yankees or the dodgers had emerged ends up emerging victorious from that I think we, we would just view that playoff field as inherently less sort of taxing gauntlet for the winter to go through because the. The odds you end up with a weird team. You know the odds that the mariners end up in that playoff field. Just go up, and and that's true with this current construction of the playoffs also, but when you have more teams play, just have more of those weird fluky teams getting through so I think that the the winner is going to be important, and I think who that winner has to defeat in order to emerge victorious is probably. Going to be the two most important things you know, if the dodgers end up playing the mariners and I just want to remind people you can make your jokes and I I think your jokes are fine, and many of them are very funny and I. Don't think that they're all geared to hurt me i. think some of them are meant to be like a year mariners. You can never hurt me as badly as the marriage. I'm immune now. It's fine like it's Fan I'm i. wish them well, but they can't. They can't 'cause emotional damage anymore, so I think the dodgers beat the mariners in the world series. We're going to be like well. I mean you mean to say that you won the world series. Defeating Kendall government? I can't believe that to be true, but if the if the field ends up being somewhat legitimate, and we have the good fortune of the players who opt to play remaining healthy and a number of very high profile players who might have very legitimate reasons not to play. Decide to play I. think that things looked really different, but you know a sixty game season. You're always going to look at that season as as strange even when you remember that baseball that the world series just sort of a bad job in general in a normal year of deciding of crowning the best team as the winning team. Even when you remember that stuff we're going to be. Strange, but I will say the following on on effectively while just for the public record if the mariners do win the world series this year, which as an aside I find to be very unlikely, even with all the statistical oddity that we are likely to see this year I'll buy a hat and I will wear it and I, will not I. You can't make fun of me. I will not I won't have it. To experience joy, don't. Try to take that for me. Then we will not be friends. That is something that I wonder about like. Would you want a drought to be ended in this year? You're the dodgers. The want twenty twenty to be the year when you finally win one for the first time in decades. That some people use tractors will say oh well. It took this weird sixty game season for you to win, or it's not as real oppressive as it would be a full season on the one hand slack. It's better to win the not to win, and it doesn't preclude future championships. That doesn't make you less likely to win next year or something, so it's not like you used up your one shot or something like you'll only get one world series and you. You got it in this strange season that maybe people will discount on the other hand. Maybe there's something to the idea of like you want the time that you end the trout and do it for the first time in years to be as special as possible and so like. Maybe it's even worth not winning for a year two more knowing that the payoff will be even better and I guess he could say the same thing about the mariners playoff trout. When they finally end it. You want it to be in a sixty game season. People can say oh. They flipped into it. This is the only way the mariners could possibly have made the playoffs. No, you. You'll just take it whatever you don't care about the circumstances. You want it to happen this year. I mean like if it happens this year, and it happens the year after then fine, no problem but like if a team like the mariners breaks their drought this year of just making the playoffs, and then they go back to mediocrity afterward. You don't want to be this year, and it's not because of questions of legitimacy, or how will feel or Astros fans being snarky. It's not any of that. It's because if it happens this year. The REAL RESULT IS MORE DISCOURSE I. Think. We're all tired. Sometimes discuss. This will be one of those things we debated. It'll be this and when guys batted around. We need it. We don't need it sandwiches, yeah! I don't Care No, neither do I so silkair. Yeah I mean I think. If the dodgers were to win this world series I think there would be less talk about it being fluky, just because they were the favorites, and you're right that the playoffs are already random, and we already put up with that and we already treat it as somewhat meaningful I mean maybe we you look at it and say oh. It's a coin flip basically, but they're still a lot of suspense and people still care, and they still very happy, and they still get very sad, so. So clearly we treat it as something meaningful and may be part of that is the bragging rights of getting to that point. That's the difference with this year's that usually you can be pretty confident that the playoff teams are all good. There are occasional exceptions were a mediocre team sneaks in there, but you have to be pretty decent to get to that point, and so the playoffs one of the reasons they are so random as all of those teams are pretty good, and they're pretty evenly matched, and so it's hard to figure out who the best is. Course of five game series or seven game series this year. It's possible that some not so great teams could kind of look into it and so. If, you're the dodgers. Even let's say and you play some terrible team that somehow snuck in because it was a sixty game season. Would that take a little luster off the world series? Even though you're the big bad dodgers on, you're expected to be there. If you had an easier route to winning, that might still be something that people hold against you so I think it does depend on the playoff field and Sam. Actually entered this question via Patriot message and he. He said the playoffs will be the same except that a few lesser teams probably not more than a couple might be in there so as long as the world series champs path basically goes through good teams. I don't think there will really any talk at all about it. Being a lesser championship I think we'll be shocked. HOW LITTLE WE DIMINISH THE CHAMP! If the season is played and concludes, we'll definitely diminish division winners, Stat leaders, etc, but not the champ and. I know I think we still will diminish the champ a little bit I think we'll. Still regardless of the circumstances think of a different because it's just so it's such an outlier in length like even the nineteen eighty-one dodgers who won the world series? They played one hundred ten games in the regular season. That's a lot more than sixty, so even comparing the season two other previous shortened seasons. It still a lot shorter, so I don't know that we will ever think of like Oh yeah, that's the team that won the twenty twenty world series without also thinking Oh, but that was. Was that sixty game season I don't know that those cuts will ever actually be decoupled in my mind, even if it's kind of a more impressive route to winning. Yeah, the more I think about it, I the thing that actually will determine how we think about anything related to this season probably doesn't have anything to do with how competitive it feels, and how close to our expectations of teams, true talent or results end up marrying versus you know noise and Fluky nece I think it really just depend on how safe it ends up feeling for guys to be playing at all. I think that that's probably the thing that likely will determine how we remember it, and so for that reason I hope very much that we look back on are like wow, that was that was good fun. Because if the alternative is true, mean something's gone very badly awry. Yes, that is very true. All right well. This is also somewhat related question from Chris, who says was listening to Mike Ferron say today you might hear. mcferrin on this podcast isn't time soon that every team has a good sixty game series during a usual season and thirty three wins would probably get a team into the playoffs this year. So is it true that even the worst teams like the eight Orioles and the two thousand three tigers have sixty game stretches around five hundred. If that is true ish than. Than what would we say? The are that an otherwise bad team could make the postseason this year. Also what are the odds that true talent world series teams would have a nightmarish for sixty games like the twenty nineteen nets and finish on the sidelines, so I basically wrote about this so there's an article up at the ringer that I will link to has more information in numbers and got some help from Lucas Pasta Laris of baseball prospectus on the stats, but yeah what Mike said. Said is almost true essentially so going back to the beginning of the divisional era of Nineteen, sixty nine to twenty nineteen, excluding eighty-one ends, Ninety, four, seventy one percent of all teams managed at least one sixty game stretch where they went thirty, three and twenty, seven or better and eighty eight percent of them played at least five hundred ball over some sixty game stretch of the season, not necessarily the first six game stretch, but some six game stretch so most do that most can be. Be Competent for that portion of a season, not all, though if you are a truly terrible team, it is possible that you can't even do it over that amount of time, so Chris asked about the eighty orioles, and the two thousand and three tigers and the eighty-eight Orioles Sixty game stretch was twenty, seven and thirty three, and the two thousand three tigers, best six game stretch was twenty and forty. They were true. He terrible at all times. No matter how you slice their season. But most teams can manage to to do that and be pretty decent for that amount of time, which means that you could Kinda fluke into the playoffs and David Schoenfield again looked up the average winning percentage of the worst playoff team over the past five years, and I think it was five forty nine, which would basically be that thirty three and twenty seven record that Mike was talking about here, so most teams are capable of doing that at some point now. If you look at what percentage of teams that would be in. In playoff position after sixty games at the start of the season end up making the playoffs most of them do, but a good percentage of them don't so last year for instance after the first six games of the season, the Rangers were in playoff position. The cubs were in playoff position Phillies were in playoff position, and none of those teams ended up in play opposition at the end of the season, and that three out of ten is is pretty typical, so according to that BP data thirty six point five percent of. Of Teams that are in playoff position through six two games, don't end up making the playoffs, and if that happens this year, they will, because the season will be over in. There's no extra time for them to refer to the million and for the coach to turn into a Pumpkin or whatever they will just be in the playoffs, and that'll be that and we'll never know that they weren't a playoff team. We might suspect based on their projections of their underlying performance, but will never be able to prove one way or another. Another that they wouldn't have made it and it's hard to say what impact that has on our perception. The season I looked again among eventual playoff team so teams that did make the playoffs over those fifty one seasons, twenty nine percent of them had a record worse than thirty, three and twenty seven in their first sixty game so again it's like you would have to expect the roughly three of the ten teams in the playoff field. This year would not make the playoffs if this were a full length regular season so. Do with that what you will. Jay Jaffe did a piece at graphs today, Friday, on wearing on Friday. Playing his study of different, he had done an earlier one fifty games slices of last year, and he did a another sixty game slices this year, or what a sixty game season in two thousand would've looked like in terms of stuff moving around and a lot of it is you know division, winners and wildcard teams are swapping spots. The actual pool doesn't change entirely, but it does change some depending on the slice and the real place where this might end up. Getting very flukey is in the number of potential tiebreaking games. That might need to be played because you just have not only do have far fewer games, and so teams are going to be more tightly clustered in terms of their distribution of wins, but some of the the the League's tiebreaking procedures sort of assume scenarios that we won't have this year. Just will just have a lot. Fewer gains to go by and as a result of that. You know you won't be able to look to a team. Say League record as a way of determining things because outside of their division. They're not. They're not gonNA play. They're gonNA play. They won't have common opponents. We'll have a lot of wildcard races. I would imagine that feature teams are just never played. Very strange, so yeah, there's there's all kinds of potential for fluky ness, not just in teams that are less good sort of sneaking their way, and but you know we might have our report of what was it twenty seventeen where we ended up with two games, one hundred and sixty three games, one hundred and sixty three game, one, hundred, sixty three's. Go with the ladder I guess. Yeah, it's tough, but yeah, so team entropy might might make itself known which feels like a very twenty twenty sort of. Situation Yeah, the worst best sixty game stretch by team since nineteen sixty nine is not quite the two thousand three tigers at twenty and forty. It's the twenty eighteen orioles at nineteen and forty one. That was the best ever got for them over any sixty km stretch, which is quite sad, that still very bad baseball. Let's see what other fun facts do I have here. The worst six game stretch by team that ended up making the playoffs was twenty two and thirty eight say you can be quite bad at some point in the season it's still make the playoffs that was the nineteen seventy-three mets and the two thousand sixteen giants. They both went twenty, two and thirty eight at some point, the best sixty game stretch by. By a team that ended up missing the playoffs was forty five and fifteen by the nineteen seventy eight Red Sox, who famously got overtaken and the two thousand five, as and the worst record for an eventual playoff team, so a team that did make the playoffs in its first Sixty Games was twenty, five and thirty five. That was the nineteen eighty-one royals. If you toss out the nineteen eighty-one team the two. Two. Thousand Five Astros also did that and the best record for an eventual non playoff teams in its first sixty games, so a hot starter that missed. The playoffs was again the seventy eight red sox. Who started forty one and nineteen and didn't make it Bucky bleeping deal so I've got tables in my article tables all over. If you want to look at the playoff teams with the worst records after sixty. Sixty Games or perspective playoff teams after sixty games that ended up with the worst full season records I will link to all of that, and it really is striking just how much of a difference there tends to be between a team's best and worst stretch in a single season like good teams just play poorly for big chunks of the season and bad teams play well or at least have good results. I have a table in here of the biggest differences between teams best to order stretch, and it's full season winning percentage, and there's some really big ones. The most extreme teams in terms of the difference in winning percentage between their best sixty game stretch and their worst sixty game stretch there two. There's the ninety-seven Phillies who had a four hundred point swing. They basically played like a hundred three win team over one sixty game stretch, and like thirty eight win team over another sixty game stretch and the twenty thirteen dodgers. who were very weird, they played like. To win team over a sixty game stretch, and then they played like a hundred twenty seven, when team over a sixty game stretch which some of you may remember. That was like UCLA. League came up and was great, and suddenly they could not lose at all so twenty thirteen dodgers 2017 dodgers also had a a very extreme hot streak where they had that eight fifty winning percentage over the course. Course Sixty Games so yeah, there's a ton of fluctuation and randomness, and we will very likely see some team or teams Kinda Phuc into a playoff spot. If we even get to point this year and will never be able to say that they didn't deserve that they wouldn't have made it. Which is kind of what we're talking about why we might think of the season a little bit differently, but That's all right. We've all made major adjustments in so many ways this year that certainly we can do that with our fandom to. For sure. All right, so let's do a step last and this week's stat blessed song. Cover comes courtesy of listener. Alex Ike, cler, and this is one of our most clever covers yet. I think you will recognize the tune here. This assertive a weird Al Type. Take on the step last son. They'll take a day to set and sort it. By some they lake, E. R. A. Minus. or As plus And then they'll tease out some thing in. Stay like A. Discuss it. Late in life. For us, so your stat blast like really math last just can't get enough plus get some help from Dan Hirsch on that stat tied. Dad Time talking tying trout might said you spend time. It's a staff blast door. Okay so this week. Step less than comes to US courtesy of Brett who says the potential new innings rules could set up an opportunity for a real life from broome guy. The situation was laid out by Jeremy Frank at MLB. Random stats on twitter here and then he links to where it was laid out in Jeremy. Frank tweeted bottom of the ninth to. Tie Game Nobody unpaced Billy Hamilton at the plate. The manager gives him strikeout sign, so he will get to be the runner on second base in the tenth inning. Because of course, the way that this auto runner works is that the guy who gets placed at second base will be the player in the batting order right before the leadoff batter of the next inning so usually it would. would be the better who made the last out in the previous sitting or a pinch-runner for that guy, and so he is suggesting that maybe it would make sense for Billy Hamilton to make an automatic out so that he would be the automatic runner in the tenth inning. Her other extra inning and Brett continues. Does the math support this decision? My first thought was no, but having him. Him On second with zero outs in the tenth might be more valuable than him on first with two outs in the ninth so I briefly thought about tackling this question myself and then I thought that sounds pretty hard. I will not really try to do that right now. Maybe some time, but meg doing her job as managing editor of FAN CRAFTS DOT COM, which is very good at. At, suggested that it sounded like a very Ben Clemency question, which agree with and I very much enjoy Ben's work as we both do, and so we farmed it out to him, and we outsourced the question to Ben, who has done the math and written a fan grasp post, and now is joining us for a guest step last segment. We're bringing in a ringer here, Hello Ben. Then singularity. Usually I'll say like ben is other, Ben, and now both bence are here so this is going to be confusing. After reading your post. I am relieved that I did not try to do it myself. Because I would not have done it as well and it turns out that there's a lot of math and a Lotta tables and kind of a complicated question, but it's a good question, and it's a good answer. So how did you go about trying to answer this question? Yeah, so the first thing I want to answer was how valuable is the Hamilton as the Ranasinghe base in terms of really yeah. If you have Billy Hamilton as the home team you win fifty percent veteran games, and that's the suming at your cookie. Percents Huge and so with that in mind. They just have to figure out with your backs up being fifty five percent. How willing should be easy to take risks? Because he can. Always just you know, make it is. It's pretty easy to make out if you want to Rebecca's. Views takeoff from second to third. Again not three up, so the question then just became. At what point is he up in us that you should stop stealing and. Program right so you don't need to have him. Do the automatic strikeout. You might as well haven't tried to get on base and then worst case. He runs himself out of the INNING, but best case he is somehow just keep stealing, or he keeps running and he scores anyway. You don't even have to worry about it, but automatic strikeout just seems like sort of a waste, although because it's billy, Hamilton that might end up being the result. Anyway it's. Half of his. Right So. How do you figure out how valuable Billy Hamilton is as base runner? You just look at the historical stats guess instead of looking at the typical rates at which a runner scores from second from space with some number of outs, and I suppose there is a a small simple there, but also we know that billy. Hamilton is quite fast, and so you would expect him to score more often although I guess it depends on, you know you have Joey votto batting. For instance but I don't know that the reds lineup behind him has been better on the whole than the typical leadoff guy. So that's basically what you tried to do. You try to see. How much better is billy Hamilton than the average person and actually it doesn't have the smallest sample of being base no outs. He's done it a hundred thirty times. He's run home second on singles in times of Barrack, tremendously small samples there doesn't. Would publish the study. Say hundred percent. Right answer, but he's played. Twenty. Thirteen's on second base a lot because it's a single second. Yeah, not as often on second base says his teams would have liked him to be but. As a rule exactly. Yeah, we've got the question before about like should billy Hamilton, or should runners be allowed to steal first base like just? Should you be able to try to steal first base at any time? You could just go and I don't know that that's actually a good idea, but it's one of those pathetically we get and people wonder about it with Billy Hamilton because he doesn't really get. Get to first base on his own power all that often, so he would be the person to take advantage of that. It's like he's one of those players that it just makes sense to ask these weird questions about him, and that's been going back to the beginning of his career. We've had odd has questions about Billy Hamilton. Adding back in two thousand fourteen Eric Hartmann emailed us. That SAM ended up writing an article for BP about which was down one run in the ninth. Would you rather have David Ortiz on second base or Billy Hamilton on first so basically? If you're the INFIELDER, should you take the out at first? Get Billy Hamilton and just have Ortiz at second, which would be better and at the time? Sam concluded that he would take the out at first that get Hamilton. Keep Ortiz at second, but there wasn't that much data to go on at that point, probably ripe for revisiting that, but that's a different question. So, what did you discover so? Bat, morals or less normally I mean I would say swing for the fences. for him. But once he's on first base. He should always try to steal so there's this rule of thumb. Your successful seventy represents the steelers neutral before I always use my head his break-even to steal second is being successful twenty percent. Okay this situation. Yeah, which was outlandish. That's the same break-even as if you're on third base. Two outs Nevada tyvene stealing home late. Often stealing home kind of Eric Hosmer Matt, Dash. But Billy Hamilton is that's has settle, he's. And he's eighty percent success second most of the time, so he should just run every single time, okay? If you've ever face. It doesn't matter who time's doesn't have as trump as you should just go, and even if that's only. Seventy sixty percents successful. It's giving his team a huge. Just just by how fast is in extra? It's just by having him there at second base where. The outfield he's scoring ball is popped up fuel these. So what is the value than of Hamilton over a full season of this or I? Don't know. Should we go over the numbers again of like your odds of winning relative to some other runner? Yeah absolutely so that's kind of the the road as it were, he's worth about. Three runs poetry wins rather over a full six game season. which sounds like very few? Yes, and me? It is very few because our extravagance that's. The big problem here is the. He's a very valuable weapon in this situation where the extra innings in either he was the last batter reconsult Dr. And with a happens, he's worth five or six percent of a way, which is really big and single. You would give up a lot to get five or six percent of a witness single game, but if he was indifferent, spot up up playing the day, it doesn't happen. If you had other baserunners on in the night when you're. Doing doesn't happen. If you happen to win, it doesn't really matter and the other team happened to score at. The top of the tent. It doesn't matter and so it's a very interesting situation where with the possible accession score billy. Hamilton is the perfect player this. It's a rule that lets you skip standards and. That's exactly what he's wanted to do for his entire career and yet it just doesn't add. That much value over the season because it comes up so rarely. Well an extra point three war for Billy Hamilton basically doubles. His Twenty nineteen were so proportionately speaking, it makes him more valuable, but yeah, not a big deal I guess it just doesn't happen enough I wonder how how much more likely Billy Hamilton is to sort of like have a bigger role as a result of this even understanding the limited application of his particular skill set in this particular set of considerations. He's still sensibly fighting for a roster spot on the giants, and I. I wonder how not how much this improves. The the giants win probability over the course of a season, but how much this improves Billy Hamilton's roster probability over the course of twenty twenty. Best. This makes him almost different prostate, because yet point three wins is not a ton of wins, but you're twenty six men. Is that valuable Alert listening right now? If you're the giants, especially so I, think that gives them hugely doesn't make him might trout, but relative to the guy. He's fighting with for that spot I. Think it's a lot. Yeah, and this came up on the giants insider podcast earlier this week. Story that I'll link to and Gabe Kappler was talking about. About it, and he said he's a perfect piece. For that moment, one of the things GM Scott Harris brought up. Is How nice it would be. Billy Hamilton run out there at second base and try to steal third base with the stolen base rate in the past eighty five percent. He's been really successful at it. And Scott brought that point up to me. It makes that roster spot more important. It makes having a dynamic player like billy more important to have on. On a roster, and it's just kind of exciting to be able to have that as an option in those situations. And then he was also asked about what else you could do in that situation, talk to people who had been in the minors with that rule in effect and Kappler said when we dug into it, what they thought was happening wasn't necessarily happening. A lot of conversations have been around whether to bunt somebody over from second to third whether it to attempt to. To steal or whether to play it straight up the reason I'm being a little cautious here is I. Don't want to give away any strategy and in that situation. Have you looked into that or or thought about that at all whether it would make sense to try to move that runner over or just hope for the best if it's not able to. Yes, if it's really handsome I don't really think he still third. He's just starting. Zero outs is too much of. That, he's very score anyway, but for regular runner I look into this a little bit, and in the top of the tenth. It's not really worth doing anything different because the team can just carry. So doing any strategies, they're giving up run-scoring edge to try to make it back. And when properly biggest you the same strategy, so you should distress worth many runs as possible essentially is what it looks like me from running the numbers. If you are the home team. It makes it a little easier because the other team doesn't get to counter as it were, so indicates where they don't score any runs. Vantage changes your strategy, a little bit depending. Al Art of the laughter got if you're at the very bottom of your lineup and Runs. Second. Probably sometimes bookkeeper. That's not the case if you the. Thing, but it definitely is the case. An Acre or a Billy Hamilton? Although you not match things right at Dillard. Hilton starts attempting at the plate. Okay, so. In conclusion it was a good question, good scenario, and unlike a Lotta these scenarios. Yeah, it actually does make sense, and I will link to Ben's post. You should go check out numbers if you're interested, but essentially yes, Billy Hamilton, if he finds himself in this situation coming up with two outs in the ninth no-one on, and he happens to get on base. He should just keep going because even if he makes an out. It's advantageous to. To have him start that tenth inning on second base just because he is so fast, and you wrote in this Article Weird Baseball Rules Create Weird baseball situations, and this is one of them. Are there any other weird baseball rules that are in theory going to be in effect, the season that are creating weird situations that you're interested in or just strategic or tactical decisions that teams may have to make well. This doesn't quite qualify as a weird. Scheduling, Quirk, but the schedule is so compressed. The I'm very curious to see how teams manage police occurrences. Yeah, yeah, the classic way teams have done. It is really not care into that the back of the bullpen. They don't worry about burning guys too much. The Yankees notably never page anybody. Two days in a row. Basically, but most teams just don't care about too much, and it works out of off days. I think that the back of teams bullpens going batter a lot more serious because the talk is going GonNa be tired Rovner. If your offense America's sprinkle them out so I, think you'll see very different bullhead management than normal I. Don't know exactly who that benefits the most. It could benefit the. Really deep shells on it really deep back in the bullpen, and could guys who have relievers. Isn't. Your if there's reliever, who can't recreation road has the arm, strength and stamina. I don't know how we know that because there hasn't been this compressed schedule before, but I think that'll be really interesting. Only the H. really changes tactics very much also or rather than you tactics. Those which is what we have you? I'll ask you this other question. That's related to that, and it's from one of our Patriots supporters. Mike, who says I came across this article about the reds and it's an article by John Fay. In the Cincinnati Inquirer and the headline is shorter. Season is not good news for the Cincinnati Reds and the Questioner Mike Continues He makes the point that the red strength is their starting pitching a shorter season benefits teams with better bullpens rather than rotations are. Are there. Some statistics that would back this up I initially thought that a solid rotation might be better because it will take longer for the hitters to get back in the groove, then pitchers, and this is kind of confounding one 'cause I think on the one hand as far as the the last part I think hitters tend to be ahead of pitchers early in the season, there have been studies that have shown that if you adjust for temperature and assume that that will continue to. To be the case, but with the reds specifically you could say that any team. That was not a playoff favorite. Prior to this benefits rate like when Dennis Gorski, did his article the other day about teams that have higher playoff odds now are higher world series odds. The reds have better odds now than they did pre pandemic. Just because it's a shorter season because of the way that they're projected, they were not the favorites in the central and so shorter season helps them but that. That doesn't really answer the pitching depth question and not exactly sure how to approach that 'cause I don't know whether starters will end up throwing a lower percentage of innings or a higher percentage of team. It's kind of hard to say because of the workload concerns and the reds may not have as great a bullpen as they do a starting rotation, but they have a pretty deep staff. Overall, there was table in an Edo Sarah article the other day using steamer projections from Fan, graphs. It ranked baseball's pitching staffs by depth and hit that the number of above replacement pitchers and average starting pitchers, and the reds did quite well in those metrics. They were like right after the Raisin Yankees. And dodgers and padres were up there, too, so I don't know. Do you have any thoughts on whether? This helps or hurts a a team like the reds I think it's pretty close to neutral I think. At the beginning of the season bullpen probably helps more because it's very clear. pitchers will be fully stretched out. To such an abbreviated a summer training. Name for it. Yeah, training through training winners doesn't quite work Yeah Jeff, suggested summer camp on Twitter A. Yes, I could see the both in helping more start of the season, but I don't see a reason. Why of a lower percentage of innings be thrown by your starters aside from again the first two weeks? Call it. I've been thinking about why that could be. Nothing springs to mind. It's not like starters really need the extra days off. Scribbled in teams carry five patients. I guess that you can't get as many times. Take a double dip with your ace because there are offer where he can get. Patients get your fifth starter. Doesn't say him starting relieving. That's his name depth, and like you said they're ethics. You have really good certain death. Yeah, so I. Don't think I by the short season will help reliever centric. So much as keeps their. Take Heart Red Spence. Okay we'll thank you for running. The number site will link to the post in your other work and Ben is on twitter. Also the rare double underscore twitter. At underscore bend? Their score clements was was just the one underscore version. At? Yes. Okay. It's not an uncommon name. I suppose unfortunately. Yeah I'm glad to know that you know having having all the bends on effectively wild has not so far caused. The death of the universe. Beds. Twenty twenty so complicated. Been You could have done with the at pet clements and some lung string of numbers that made you look like a Russian powder something. Better Yeah I guess so. All right well. Thank you been very much. Enjoy your work and appreciate your coming on. Thanks. Okay so speaking of the weird extra innings runaround second row. We got a couple questions about that. One from Western named Shan't or Shan't and one from Worcester, named Jacob and Jacob puts it with the runner starting on second base in. Can we have a scenario where a pitcher records a perfect game and still loses? Because? Of course you could have the runner who is just an. Runner who scores a team's winning run, and that run is not assessed to that. pitchers earned run. Average doesn't count as a runner. He allowed because he didn't of course, but he would still be the losing pitcher, and this scenario has risen a couple times to time effectively wild guest. Rick teasingly actually pitched a perfect game, but Lahser. He threw a perfect nine innings, but his team lost in that was in the independently again then there was also a scenario with the minor league team. Tampa tarpons of the four state league they. They had a a similar scenario to this, too. Because this extra runner rule has been in place for a while, so the tarpons took a perfect game into extra innings in twenty eighteen, but those extra innings begin with a runner on second, and then some other stuff happened, but it could happen nine perfect innings, and then the ten starts with them in on second, and then who knows there's a wild pitch in a sac fly, and a team allows no hits or walks errors or hit by pitches, but still loses the game. However it turns out that you could still have a perfect game. This would technically still count as perfect game so I am. Reading from adjacent stark article at the athletic this week, he says after that tarpons game the Elias Sports Bureau. Put itself on record as saying that any game in which runner scored cannot be considered perfect, but Cory Schwartz who oversees statistics for both Major League and Minor League baseball took to twitter to announce a slightly different interpretation back then and Corey tweeted no need to wait I can tell you right now. Auto runners count against the perfect game. Game or no hitter and Jason continues so when this rule came to the big leagues, we'd better get an updated ruling on this, and just so you know Elias on board with the idea that it is possible to lose an extra inning perfect game, but they told us they're also on board. With the reality that there is basically a one in zillion chance that could actually happen this year. In other words. They're saying there's a chance so. It could happen. Yeah I mean you'd have to have a pitcher kitchen to extra innings like that would be weird enough to have him go ten and lose, and especially in this season when pitchers may be won't be built up and so it's very unlikely to happen in talk to rick about the scenario when he was on the podcasts for the second time to talk about the Atlantic League rules. Rules that were in place last year, but yeah it. It could technically happened so I kind of like the idea of a perfect game that is still a loss in. It's really just semantics at someone at NLP decides whether we're going to call it a perfect game or not, and they have decided that Bentley, that we would I just want to know what the at bat notification will look like. Yeah. How you how? Do you start China? We would get much earlier. Right? The first one saying we're on a perfect game watch earlier. I don't know why would have that kind of dopey voice so. I Don I guess that's the voice that I assume notifications Talkin. Sorry that bad. I think that's probably true of. UPS package deliver to but? You know the I won't be like standard stuff and then when it's lost. How do you succinctly described the action I died? Guess that you'd probably just under describe. You'll never believe how this pitcher loss is. Perfect Game Right, yeah! What accent is? Doing though you do it a lot of voice work today. Yeah, China, keep it interesting. Yeah, I think it makes sense, though it seems just to me to give a perfect game like if you're going to impose this rule that a pitcher through no fault of his own can allow a base now granted like an error might not be the pitchers fault, and we still count that as unperfect game right, but but in this case no one screwed up. It's not even a teammate who did anything. It's just an said. Pay were starting. Extra innings with a runner on second now so there's that runner at. You can't really blame anyone for that. Really so still seems perfect I think it's perfect I guess it comes down to the nature of perfection. We can all be perfect. Really. We can't ever really be perfect, so I think it's fine that this is an approximation of perfection I think that we should credit the era to the pandemic I think I think the pandemic should get a stat page, and it should just be all errors negligent. Man every every one of them. Every time. A base runner is put on second in extra endings results of this 'cause we know whose fault it is. Pandemic faults. Yes, absolutely, so I I want there to be one more place where we are recording negative covid stats for the record I think we should be able to measure the fact in baseball and a very concrete sort of way, so that's that would be my piece of snarky advice to the committee. If I were asked I will respect the committee's decision since I wasn't, but that would be my preference will. We're only talking about this weird innings rule because we hate ties as a culture, we just can't seem to stomach ties. One of the big baseball scandals of Bud Selig's tenure is that there was a tie, can you? You believe that there is a tie in a meaningless exhibition game. WHAT AN INCOMPETENT COMMISSIONER! He actually just sat there and let these two teams I can't believe it, so we got a question here from Gilmer Kiyomi, he is the questioner who asked the step last question the other day about world series winning players who did not actually appear in the world series, but did appear on world series winning teams, and he says here comes Gilmore Yom again the French dude with the unpronounceable name by the way you did very well. Less time is to hear I was listening to episode fifteen, Fifty Five, and was surprised to listen to you arguing. Arguing about draws. This is very funny because we were arguing about them as well in the PODCAST I run on baseball and MLB in France. The also came from our unhappiness of seeing extra innings start with a runner on second base for US French people. It seemed that if MLB wanted to have better control of the timeframe of the game, they should stop with extra innings and regular season, but keep them in postseason, and by the way this extra innings runner rule is not in place for the postseason, so we will not see a world series game and with with us. Just don't worry about that so continuing if MLB wanted to have. Have better control the time from the game they should stop with extra innings and regular season, but keep them in the postseason, and except that baseball game could end as a draw between the two teams. The season is normally one hundred sixty two games long and I. Don't think that draws would be an issue in having a clear division winner. Anyway. My question about this is as follows. Could you tell me why historically does a baseball game need to end with a clear winner? And not in a draw, and do you think that baseball could become the first sport? The big four to have its regular season games end in a draw. So there is some precedent for this in the distant past that were baseball games that were ties or draws, and there have been ties or draws in other major American sports, too I wasn't sure of the exact history of this and I googled and found a paper that conveniently was just published in March called a history of America's aversion to tie aims in popular team sports perfect. It's great when you can find a paper. That title perfectly matches your Google search terms almost, and this was published in the International Journal of the. The sociology of Leisure which sounds like a journal. I'd be interested in reading. And it was published by Zach Bloomberg or Bloomberg Andrei markovits and Annabel Shoal. It's a long paper. It's a twenty three page paper, and I will link to it if you're interested in all of the information, they go through the history of ties in various sports, but I'll just skip ahead to the conclusions and future research section that comes at the end here and sounds like it perplexed them to an extent why we Americans just can't tolerate ties. So they rate to this point, this project has provided modest insights into American sports in American, sporting culture, but has not identified at definitive time period or reason behind America's version to type games throughout the study, the one consistently documented phenomenon is that Americans across nearly every sport in time period, dislike tie games. However, there is no consensus about winter. Why this developed while not providing a clear causation, we believe that America's singular bourgeois culture which was mentioned at the papers. Outset plays a role after all by their very nature, ties manifest uncertainty. Uncertainty and indecision these states of mind and joy greater tolerance in a highly structured and vertical system that typified Aristocratic Europe as opposed to the greater horizontality offered by American Bush. Development in the mindset of the latter winning is a constant necessity of life and a major motor for distinction, some American sports namely baseball and basketball have been devoid of ties largely since their creation, hinting that Americans could potentially have disliked ties since the beginning of organized sports in the United States meanwhile hockey and football and hockey, of course Canadian have worked to. Overtime hinting that these sports leagues are perhaps falling of later shift among Americans to a more intense distaste for tie games. Furthermore, America's unique sporting environment provides additional material from which to garner conclusions. American sports culture emphasizes rule changes, legal tinkering and general evolution something, which is distinctly American from this angle. It is possible that Americans opinions of type. Games are not a standalone phenomenon, but rather part of an American sports culture that differs from its global counterparts while. While there's plenty of evidence about the general differences between American and Global Sports Culture, such as America's use, playoffs and willingness to make drastic rule changes, there are no explicit data linking views about tie games to the specific phenomenon. However, this is certainly an area with potential for further exploration, and they say that going forward. It would make sense to conduct research to ascertain in greater detail. The essence of what constitutes American. Culture sounds like a simple question. Whether the dislike of ties is congruent with this larger phenomenon and second to search for any psychological phenomena that might be unique to Americans in this regard to finding information about the second topic could explain the first and together they could ultimately produce improved answer to our original puzzle, concerning American aversion toward ties goodness. Yeah, I can I offer. A kind of a half cocked explanation, yes please. I! Think it's the American spectators. Lake to be able to brag about enduring things and baseball lets you do that while sitting down. So we prefer extra innings so that we can brag, but not have to stand up. That's true theories like there's a bracket rate that goes along with like I I was there at that? I didn't I didn't leave I didn't turn off the TV I stayed up to the bitter end, even though I got no sleep and was Zombie the next day. And you know probably should have just gone to bed, but I didn't because I'm a hardcore fan. Fan Yeah. Fan and I got to do all that while sitting down. That's my sort of half baked explanation I don't know how true it is, but I'm comfortable with it at least so far. Yeah, I I would maybe prefer ties than the extra hitting runner rule. If that were to be implemented permanently, get Wyatt's in place this season, but the idea of a victor is satisfying to me like it. It does seem like kind of the climax, or it almost makes the whole thing worthwhile right to to know who won, but I guess you could say it's about the journey, not the destination and about the fun of watching the game. Game and we don't need to know the winner. It's not like in a baseball game. The winner of that game decides who the best team was at that time so in the long run. It's still tells you what the teams are like. If you have a very long season, it's fine if you have some ties, it doesn't obscure anything so I. Don't know why I'm comfortable with it. I shouldn't be but I. Guess just uncertainty in general is something that settling we? We WanNa know things, but sometimes it's fine not to know into. Admit that you don't know. The only sport I really watch with any regularity that allows for eventual ties is football, and I'll say that you don't feel good after a tie, it feels like a failure. That everyone has to wear if. Overtime in football ends in a tie. My general takeaways one of incompetence. And for whatever reason despite the fact that if you have watched nineteen inning game, you have also watched a great deal of incompetence. You get to end on a note of while sometimes you end on a note of incompetence, leading to victory, so that's its own bitter nonsense, but you at least somebody at least emerges victorious, whereas when you watch, you know the seahawks and the cardinals, and it's high because of missed field goals. Really. Why did I do any of this like why? Why. Did I sit here for four hours? Or however long, it was so I. Think part of it too is that there is a that feeling is a key one and you're right like it. It sometimes good. Sometimes. It's good to sit on settled, but I think you also mostly just feel like you've wasted time and we hate that very much. We'd rather under something terrible granted while sitting down for a long long stretch than be like high wasted my time. I think that's part also, but I'm very open to an explanation that interprets American exceptionalism in a negative light I'm very sympathetic to interpretations of American. Life that center around that right now. Feels true bills true in my heart, okay? This question comes from Jacob Patriot supporter. He says I was curious as to what you think is going to happen to top minor league players such as Carter key, boom, or Neat Pearson, who might be on the cusp of the majors, but haven't signed a contract in the way Lewis Robert. Has the teams have any incentive at all to let? Let, those guys crew service time this year. It feels unfortunate, but also likely that will have to wait another year and twenty days of next season to see some of these really exciting prospects. Make it to the show. Do you think the same thing or do you think we could see some of these guys poke their heads into MLB so I sent this question to Eric Long. Of Faint, grass to see what he thought, and he said I know that teams are currently talking through concepts like this I think if you're Toronto and you wait a week and your own six, you might go screw it and keep him down talking about Pearson their top pitching prospect Baltimore in Detroit. Sound like they're going to be sellers. I think whether prospects debut or not will be driven by their teams competitive incentives. This is something where Jeff. Passan noted the other data. If the bluejays holds eight Pearson down for seven days, then they'll get an extra year of control. which isn't that much different really from a regular season except that seven days is proportionately much more of. Of the season so as Eric saying like it, it would be a shame if a slow start prompted some team to not promote a prospect. Let's say but if you go in six. That's a tenth of the season rainy, so that actually does really dramatically affect your playoff odds and yet there's so much potential to just sort of sneak into the playoffs this year. That I would really hope that teams are going for it to the extent that they can do something to go for it. As we talked about before like the rosters are already pretty much in place, there's only so much you can do, but because of the randomness, and because you can just get in there. There without necessarily having a team that's built a win over one hundred sixty two games I would hope that not many teams are not any teams decide to sell or keep prospects down, even though they probably will. I think sadly a lot of them. Will I do think that it will be interesting to see I don't know how much direct site we're going to have on this question, but you know I think we're all agreed that service time as a a concept in it's sort of peculiarities and contours, going to be a pretty big part of the next CPA negotiation, and so I wonder if I wonder if there will be teams out there that are sort of on. On that cost who WANNA, make a run this year. Even though it is a weird season, they wanna get their guys who are sort of high majors, prospects time in the big leagues, so that they are you know making sure to take great care with their development and giving them every opportunity to continue to grow as players, and they look at it and say well, maybe all this going to be different after twenty twenty one anyway, so why not be a very optimistic reading of potential situation? I think that you know history has shown that given the ability to manipulate service of otherwise ready prospects. That teams will do that and considering that Kris. Bryant lost his grievance. and was likely to be the most clear cut a case of service time manipulation, and thus the most likely to win that maybe that emboldened some teams to say half head right remember when Kris Bryant lost his grievance. Long time ago, bills longtime ago so I I don't know the answer to that. We have seen teams in the last couple of years that have that have decided to buck the trend rate, and to just put their players on the field when they feel that they're ready. You know Chris Paddock and Fernando. Totti's were on the opening day roster for the Padres, so it's not as if it's impossible or even unheard of even without contract extensions like we've seen the white sox lean into but I do worry that. That teams Will Bay shifty. Although we've also heard front office, executives say that they expect to be judged by the results on the field, regardless of how wonky the season gets, so it's not as if every front office type that's making those choices is going to feel themselves sort of totally unencumbered by the expectations of ownership but I. don't know yeah. I. Don't know they're these taxi squads so I would hope that if you put like a prospect on taxi squad and he's working out with the team traveling with. With the team, but not on the active roster or not making major league money. You're not getting service time. That would seem pretty lousy to do that I. Don't know the the thing. Is that like this year? There's no minor league season most likely or certainly not a normal one, and so if you want your guys to get any sort of seasoning, it kind of has to be in the big leagues, unless there's like an expanded something, Arizona Fall League, but you know it's hard to imagine even that out. Out because of what's happening Arizona, so I don't know that could happen, but usually it's like well. Do we want to rush this guy? We want to promote this guy. Even when that's like a legitimate concern and not just the justification for service time in a position. It's like well. We think he needs a little more time now. There's nowhere else to get time. Really so if you want any in game, experience might have to be in the big leagues, and that's kind of a strange single-season dynamic too so. I don't know I. I would hope that like if Detroit or someone just happens to fluke into like a fifteen and fifteen start or something, and then you get to the trade deadline on August thirty first, which is so weird because it's one month into the season. And yet you know that's half the season like one month is normally nothing really, but now it's half the season, so it's conceivable that you could actually look into a playoff spot. Even if you're not a great team and I guess you could say well. It's this weird season. No one's GONNA. Take it that seriously anyway. So why should we try as hard as possible? Possible, and why should we call a prospect if it's a short season and we're not even GonNa get as much playing time out of him, but on the other hand it's way more feasible that you actually could make it. And that holding onto players, instead of trading them or promoting players, instead of keeping them down could really turn out to be a playoffs berth. Even if it's like right in the middle of your rebuilding, period or something, that would be nice like even if you don't think well, we're going to be back next year would be a nice little respite of giving your fans competitive seasons in the middle of a bunch of losing season so I would hope that we will see teams. Try as much as possible given how easy it is comparatively to make the playoffs this year. Yeah I think that's right, can I? This is not a player who I expect to see in the Matrix this year, which is? Is Fine, but did you see the report? Because of all the factors that you just named that the rays are very likely to have wander Franko on their taxi squad. No, not there are likely to have wander Franco and their taxes squad, which makes good sense and you know he's nineteen and has not played advanced minorly boy so I don't have any expectation that we will see him. That would be very strange, but part of me wondered if they did it to keep him away from trampolines to Jeff, listen to effectively wild and say wait I have solution. That's what it takes. I've got one last question here. This is from Derek, and other Patriot and supporter, who says my much more observant. Eight year old son asked me why the Ko catchers always tried to catch the balls in the dirt, instead of getting down to block. That was a couple of weeks ago and I've been watching more closely since then sure enough. There appears to be much less blocking from the knees. Now I'm wondering if catcher blocking is A. A relic leftover from past where catchers didn't have functional Mitts and the best strategy was to use the body to keep it in front. Could it be that it still done this way because it's always been done that way and skilled catcher may be better off scooping like a first baseman in some circumstances or even all the time from the Games I've watched paid attention to three to four ish. I'd say it was at least half. Half trying to dig the ball. Even with runners on base. I separately asked my eight year old son without giving him my estimate, and he said they only block about a quarter of the time. He's been watching more games and more closely, but he's eight. So there's that we are likely overestimating because we are looking for it, but it's enough to be noticeable for sure either way I think the question is still valid as a coach i. I know that I. Drill into my players, the need to block all balls in the dirt, which is based on not only what I was taught, but also the leading catcher resources I would not be surprised at all if it continues that way because of the aversion to risk, there are few things in baseball that are shamed more vehemently than a passed ball with a run base if the catcher tries to pick it instead of blocking. So Derek and his observant eight year old son are suggesting that. Maybe this is the better way. Maybe this is the more highly evolved way of stopping pulse as a Catcher, I wasn't sure about this. I didn't know why this happens. If this happens and what it would mean so, I sent the question to a couple of people who scout for KP Oh, teams, as I figured they would be much better equipped to answer. Answer these questions, so these are both people who have worked in that world for quite a while now and they both confirmed this observation so well done Derek eight year old son. You noticed something that was happening and one of them says I've noticed that before. Koreans and Asian players in general are really good at working in small spaces, using angles, precise movements, etc less focused on acts of brute strength and force it. It could be. They think the risk reward is just in their favor. The catchers also dropped their glove to the ground. As the pitcher is in the delivery. Don't see that too often. Hear. The other scout had sort of a more pessimistic or negative interpretation here and said I believe it's just the lack of proper coaching and conditioning. They don't really get into a Nason loose athletic position when they catch players and coaches. Coaches here still have the misconception that becoming bigger and heavier equals power, making it tough for their bodies to alter positions since pitch velocities have gone up compared to what they were years ago. Of course, it's nowhere near the major league. Average veteran catchers may feel it's more efficient to just move your hands instead of your whole body and preferred to cheat. Young catchers will pick that up. Also secondary's generally have lesser movement. Movement and velocity compared to those thrown by Major League pitchers. The K B O has struggled at developing good young catchers. They've kind of been in their own island. In terms of catching, there's never been a South Korean catcher who's had an established career in the states, then afterwards spread the word back to South Korea on how it's done i. don't even recall any former catchers going over to the states learning a few. Few things and then opening in academy over here either the lady giants catchers seem like they've made improvements this season with Hank Congress looking after them, so it's good to see that. And he also included a note that wild pitches, plus pass balls per game in two thousand, fifteen, where one point eight in Cabo versus point eight nine in an ob, so quite a few more while pitches or passed balls over there despite. Despite. The fact that pitches are moving more slowly and maybe not moving as much and so in theory. You would think they might be easier to block, so it could be a technique or conditioning issue which I guess. That's one of the things that we've heard about. The caveat is that in many respects? The level of play is comparable to the majors are too high level, minor leagues, but that defenses maybe one of. Of the areas where it falls a little short at time, so I guess this could be manifestation of that. Yeah, and it's you know if you watch if you watch college baseball even I Love College Baseball in the US and you watch catchers a lot like you know maybe I do there seems to be you take for granted. How good the not just the frame it was! The literal receiving is in the majors. And when you watch high level. College Ball. You're like Oh. Some you know like catching the ball. And I bring that up, not because they think that it's a perfect talent of accomplish because I would imagine that some of the average philosophies that catchers there might see Would perhaps we similar so I? Do think that is even at lower velocities. Probably work. That needs to be done to perfect technique so that you're just receiving the ball competently, so it would not surprise me. If yeah, you just need. It is a point. It would be a point of emphasis in terms of improving development, because it is one that is true of sort of amateur pros here in states to right, yeah. All right well, that's I got here. I will leave you with the latest Scott Boris analogy news or Metaphor News, which is that he recycled himself. He used one of his analogies, so it's not a new breakdown that we need here, but he liked. One of his word plays enough to use it again two years later, so some of you may recall when scuppers talked about the Padres as a volcano of hot talent lava, and Jeff, and I in ways that at the time, of course, Jeff loves volcanoes and lava. So this was of interest to him, and he said at the time to turn that lava into. Major League rock. That's a hard thing to do. What Eric hosmer brings. He went through all that in. Kansas City they turned into championship rocks. When you can have a young veteran champion, I think your chances of guiding lava interros interrogates is pretty good. I think that's the destiny in the plan. And thus far the patriots have still been lava I guess they have not been championship rocks. They have not been the volcano if it's. It's even a good thing to be a volcano erupt, but he sticking with it, and he said just the other day on a radio show. There's more of that lava coming, and they added quite a bit more in this draft I think the volcanoes ready to erupt so clearly he likes the volcano and lava eruption analogy when it comes to the padres and you stick with it. Wow Yeah, Yup I also notice. This is not a Boris one, but my pal. Zach cram from the ringer. Just flagged this for me in a Jeff Passan column. It says ten days ago as Major. League Baseball in the MLB Players Association continued haggling over finances in return to play discussions, one officials said the whole thing felt like game of thrones, all this fighting over money and power when the real hazard for the twenty twenty and piece in the existential threat loomed elsewhere the covid white walkers. Real, he said so. It's Boris. Ask, but I assume it's not Boris because he would put his name to A. Well maybe not because he would not want to distract from the the money in economic issues, but yeah I don't know worse. It seems like usually scientists work when he does want to serve. At least he gives himself away like I don't know that you can have an anonymous analogy if you're Boris. Because if you come out and say that free agency is the vase of championships, or whatever it and you just ask to be anonymous, I don't think it's really GonNa Hide Your cover keys. We know how you speak. Scott, Yeah Gosh I I. Hope that that the the end result of this season is more satisfying than the last season. Borough! Me To. Me Two years of my life Yep Yep well. That's sort of the same thing I think about that, too. With game of thrones, like yeah, it ended in a very frustrating way, but I enjoyed the ride, so it's sort of analogous to what we're saying about like an extra inning game ending in a tie or something like maybe the tie would. would be satisfying, but what if the game was good up until that point does it ruin the whole thing retroactively I will say that my stance toward the runner on second and extra innings rule has softened sense. It incentivize the giants to give Billy Hamilton Job Yeah. It's softened somewhat. You know so there's there's that we got that going forward. I guess. And in John Taylor did a post for fan crass about how rare this would be. We won't actually see this that often. He mentioned that in all of MLB history there only been eighty four games that went to or past the nineteenth innings, so it's like one season, if that so, it doesn't even really seem worth legislating that out, but he also noted that if you lower the threshold to fifteen innings, only sixteen of those games last year, so point six percent of the season once every hundred sixty games, so basically like once a a season per team. Something like that so. The extra runner rule does. It definitely does and in the minors. He said they saw gigantic decrease in games that went three or more innings past the ninth granted. There weren't all that many begin with. He did say that it might save some time. The Games that were done in ten innings last year lasted on average three hours, thirty four minutes or twenty nine minutes longer than twenty nineteen nine inning average a half hour chopped is nothing to sneeze at especially when the goal is not to be on the field, a minute longer than is necessary, so that's true and. Also try guessing the giants case I think they play more extra inning games because it's kind of a low scoring team and low scoring Parkin there end up being more ties after nine innings, so maybe billy will be inaction. More often can be true all right, so we will in there, and we will be back with an extra episode before this week is. Is Out all right that will do it for today. Thank you for listening and speaking of K B O. I will be on ESPN K. B O broadcast early Saturday morning with just does and Jason Manetti around five thirty am eastern. Ensure you're all. 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7-7-2020 Bill Cunningham

Bill Cunningham

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7-7-2020 Bill Cunningham

"The. Billy. Cunningham, the great American we have to. About the latest virus. How many people have how many on in the hospital all that kind of stuff plus later owner Stephen Are Adam stopped by the man called about what to do. If a police officer knocks on your door, saying did you just set off a whole bunch of fireworks? Things that character, but until then Mo, Egger, welcome again to the bill Cunningham show Mojo Aria. If, if people are going to be walking around neighborhoods, asking you setting off fireworks than everybody in my neighborhood is going to be arrested. This is what happened is going to get a lot of phone calls from the West Side. Because let's face it. It's illegal, and so a friend of mine had about fifty of his closest friends over the had little cookout about six o'clock swimming. Swimming nine o'clock set off a whole bunch of fireworks went on for about thirty minutes. Pretty good stuff. Everybody's happy leaves and leave the clean up for the next day by eleven o'clock at night, knock on the door to deputy. Sheriff's are out the door and that's that's never good. When the deputy sheriff's knock on your door and eleven o'clock or two o'clock in the morning. Don't bring you good stuff and they say hey. Did you just set off a bunch of fireworks? Now. If that's. What do you do? Yeah. Yes. No, no Mo, don't. Know. Adams is going to tell me stop by the man at your home. Call the man and not say anything. Well before I say or do anything I want to speak to my attorney, and then and then what would happen well, you walk around the side yard. Do they have a warrant to go into your backyard? Probably not, but could they see it from another advantage point possibly, but it had to see the crime being committed. If it's a misdemeanor, they just can't arrest someone. Let's say see the crime being committed, so it gets a bit complicated. What would you do? Mo-? I'm going to call Steven. Adams that's it, but secondly how about this one before we get to sports. I'm glad you brought this up. As you know before we talk about them. A home contract a half a billion dollars. I said a half, a billion dollars, and also the red schedule which is so great. Here's another case because I like to probe your legal mind. Many of us. Maybe Tony Bender included have a concealed carry permit. And part of the rules of having concealed carry permit is that you can't You can't be in possession of a weapon while under the influence of alcohol, or would you agree that's a good? That's a good thing. very much so. There's a person walking outside that see someone walking in his house. He's in his house with with a shotgun in one hand, and the neighbors have been a little bit difficult in the past, so he hits nine one one saying hey, so and so mo- eager as a shotgun, and he looks like he's drunk, and so two policemen show up. He's back in the bedroom. Knock on the door, his wife. Wife answers the door and the cops say hey, can we come in with? What does the wife say? Well sure come on in, they walk in out of the bedroom, walks a guy with a concealed carry permit that they knew about because they run. It ran his name to find out he did and they said. Have you been drinking drugs? Absolutely I'm drunk then then. They arrested him in his house. For a concealed carry permit having done nothing. Does wife to the nothing? Is that right? No, no, that's on appeal. He was convicted. And he's looking at a year and a half in jail now. What would you do in that case? Will I would've called Jew but I. I don't. I'm not sure how much practicing so but I would have. You would have steered me in the right direction. Maybe Stephen Adams could take case then don't know right now. Secondly, thirdly I mean basically the since I've known you, my rule is if I'm ever apprehended by the police, and there would be no reason for me to I'm calling. You told me even if you're not going to represent me directly I your Jeremy in the right direction I know everything, but I don't go to court much anymore at all. It's gotta be something. I've met some of the lawyers you hang out with and some of them I'm not quite sure about Merlin. Shivered Eker. Scott Crosswell Stephen. Are Adams some of those guys? I. Now thirdly. Are, you shocked the Patrick Mahomes as getting a half a billion dollars to play quarterback until twenty thirty one shocked. Shocked I'm a little surprised to a degree that he would take the deal because. So many of these guys. You saw this with Kirk cousins. Who is half the player that Patrick Mahomes is? Everybody made a big deal about his free agency. A couple years ago and it turned out. He signed a three year deal. Eighty seven million dollars guaranteed, and the idea is I want to be able to go get a free agent contract in three years. I want to be able to do this again. When the market changes, the salary cap goes up now in the short term, the salary cap of the NFL is GonNa come down for two thousand twenty one because they're either not going to sell tickets at all or they're not. Not GonNa, sell as many tickets, so there's a part of me that Patrick mahomes twenty four years old. He had one more year left of team. Control signed a deal until you're twenty nine, and then see where the financial possibilities lie when you're a twenty nine year, old players opposed to a thirty four year old player, but but this is. This is the best player in the League. This is the best quarterback in the league. This is a transcendent guy. This is a guy who's done things before the age of twenty four that we have have never seen if he is on your team in his prime, he almost guarantees you contention. He has. You're looking for in a quarterback and people have talked about what this is gonNA mean for other qb's what it's GonNa. Do for the quarterback market to Shawn Watson of the Houston Texans Baker Mayfield's name has come up. Heck even Joe, borough, I tend to think to Patrick Mahomes isn't a class by himself. He's his own market. And I do Kinda wonder in the short-term. Let's say league revenues dipped for a couple of years and the salary cap comes down. How do they maintain a team around him? That is as competitive is the one that she had had for a number of years. And so we don't know, but that is huge amount of money and the salary cap based on revenues, and I can't imagine revenues the next two years being equal to what they were the past two years. I would imagine the salary caps go down not up and it may be a long haul to go back to where we were eight six months ago and if that's the case, he made one hell of a bed unlike mookie Betts. Of the dodgers turned down three hundred million dollar from the Boston red. SOx Not exactly a bad franchise, three hundred million bucks. Kinda tested free agency market after a year in Los. Angeles, and now where's Mukhi beds or do we care? Well mookie betts a play with the dodgers this year. Assuming we have a season, but but you're right. There's there's part of me. You know you try to look at everything from from a local perspective. Right so there's a part of me that makes me wonder you know the reds. Have we think a pretty good roster? Certainly this off season you're always looking to. To make your team better. There's a part of me that wonders and I think you've seen this to a degree. Over the last couple of seasons because a lot of teams have sat out. Does this make a movie Bet specifically, but does this make and ordinarily impossible to afford free agent a little bit more affordable because the asking price has to come down. Whatever mookie Betts was thinking. He was going to ask for this coming off season. He's GonNa. Ask for a fraction of that now. That fraction is still going to be really really big because he's a great player. But we have seen teams sort of sidestep free agents. A lot of people thought this past off season yes. yelp week was gonna hit it big at last check. Yes, Yup, we do not have a big league job, and so the the forecast for these things tend to sometimes not be reflected by reality once we actually get to the off season, and I do kinda wonder. If you have a bunch of teams that set out and go, you know what we. We lost too much money. We can't sign free agents. Does that drive the asking price down that? Maybe a team like the reds that ordinarily couldn't afford a certain player now can. What does this do for Trevor Bauer? WHO's GonNa make. His pre paraded salary was seventeen million dollars if he has a big two months, does the free agency well dry up for him? This is a guy who wants to sign a one year deal. Does Trevor Bauer become more affordable? Nick Castanos the prevailing wisdom coming into the season when he signed his four year contract, he had an opt-out after one year, and the thought then was. This is a guy who's betting on having a big year, and then either the market exploding or There's a in the National League because he's not a great defender, and maybe he can make more money from a team for the naked a Helluva job because we live in now. Yeah, and now he would be out of his mind to opt out because there's no way. He gets sixty four million dollars on the open market this winter, so what does that? That mean it means the reds are GONNA get a chance to keep them in. This guy could absolutely rake so I certainly I. Don't want to be you know massive economic fallout at the sport, but there's a part of me. That does think that the reds could take advantage of weakening of the free agency market which to degree. They've already done well. Let's break it down two and a half weeks from now on July, the twenty, four, th at or near six ten. We think the first pitch is going to be thrown. Probably one of the better teams in the National League one of the probably the worst team in all of baseball the Tigers. This doesn't happen to Cincinnati sports hardly ever for example than the high school football championships have never never been in Cincinnati except I, think the late seventies with faust, so it's been about forty or fifty years now. The reds are going to open up the twenty twenty season July twenty fourth anoma against the Detroit, Tigers. No one in baseball has a better I ten or fifteen games than the reds. Would you agree? The Detroit Tigers lost one hundred and fourteen games last year. The Cincinnati Reds will play them three times to to open the season, and then three more times. The following week in Detroit sandwiched around a four game series against the Chicago cubs, they will play later in the summer four games against the Kansas city royals, who last season lost a hundred and three games, they obviously being in the national league central, have a bunch of games against the Pittsburgh Pirates a team that lost ninety three games last year, and made no significant upgrades to their roster, if the reds can take care of business against the dregs of the to central divisions. The Wild Card in all this to me is the Chicago White Sox, which is a team that spent a lot of money, and it's a very good minor league system if they can merely take care of business against Kansas City and Detroit and Pittsburgh then they're going to have a leg up on the teams in the in the East division of the National League and. And the National League Western. Division because obviously in addition to competing for a division title. You're also trying to outlast these other team for wild card spots I believe if they take care of business and be sufficiently the three terrible teams that are on their roster, and then merely hold their own against the brewers, cubs and cardinals. This team's going to be in the playoffs. Over under is thirty one and a half right now. I am taking the over no question because I'm looking at the schedule. The first ten games, which is going to set the table You'd have to think in those ten games. The red legs have got to be seven and three eight and two, because the first seven or home and Detroit. They showed sweep the cubs they win. SAY Two out. Out of four, because some five wins, then they go up to Detroit when to their that means they're seven and three, which is like being something like twenty one and nine to start the season, each games worth about three games, and so if the reds are like twenty, one and nine after thirty games, that's pretty damn good. After ten games, they better be something like seven three right in two. And if they are, they're often running. I, think the other part of this. That's fun to think about I personally don't think trades should be allowed I. Mean I think if you're if you're trying to button up every possible health and safety protocol possible. You don't let players changed teams. I think there's a basic human decency element here where you know these guys are incurring some risk. Let's let's not add stress, but we are allowing trades. The reds obviously went all in this off season. They were aggressive. They spent a lot of money. They had a great off season because they made their team better and all they had to spend money. So think of who still is in his organization. You still have hundred green. WHO's healthy? You still have Nixon's. That was still here. You still have. Aristide's Aquino you have young controllable talent. You still have some decent prospects. Jonathan India's still here tyler. Stevenson is still here. Nicholas was still here. They have trade capital, so you have that. Plus what did every owner spend? The last couple of months doing bellyaching about how much money they're not making this off season with the Chicago cubs entertained trading some of their best players. The Cleveland Indians have a to contend entertain trading one of the best five or six players in baseball. We saw you mentioned with the Boston red. SOX did I wonder who's going to have a fire sale which team? Even if they're in contention, which team has a fire? Fire, sale, which team gets off to a terrible start has no chance to recover, and they have a fire sale. The trade deadline is going to be August. Thirty first the reds have the prospect capital the deal. So what's the move they can make? Can they get an armed for the home? Stretch their one more bat. Is there a sort of specialist guy specialty guy like? Let's say a Billy Hamilton Billy Hamilton now has value because the rosters expanded by twenty six late in the season we start with thirty, and in extra innings of starting with a guy on second base. You know what I want I. Want a guy who can run. I think it's fascinating to think about the ways. This team can still get better and again. Part of that is a byproduct of to sports economic product. The economic climate, but you gotta get off to a fast start. If this team is, you said twenty one to nine. If there's something comparable to that around August thirty first, you have no choice but to go get that extra piece. If you get off to a one and eight start, which shouldn't happen given the competition they play. You have almost no chance of recovery. No one thing they don't have is a hammer starting pitcher like a kershaw. Some like that. They have five. Pretty Good Stars have three really good starters, if they if some team in August was getting rid of Hammer pitcher. Pitcher that would be perfect to fit into this rotation a hammer. Well, it'd be perfect in the rotation, and also it's. It's bit parts as well. This team is probably not going to be great. Defensively is is there. Is there somebody with a good glove that you could put in late in games? That wouldn't cost you all that much. There's that the pinch running aspect of it. Is there you know whereas Nick Zell by the time we get to August. Thirty first, is he being productive de replace him does does bottle get off to a slow start which has been a thing in recent. Recent seasons and you go. We need another lefty bad I, mean there's there's lots of different things. Middle Relief is going to be at a premium postseason. Baseball is so dictated by how good bullpens are. Is there a reliever out there and again? The fun part of this is the reds got better this off season. Yes, and they didn't trae the prospect. They traded one last summer tailored from L.. Part of Trevor Bauer deal, but their system is intact. The it was it was. It was a thought a pretty shrewd series maneuvers by the Front Office but to me. That's the value a free. Free Agency all you have to spend money, which means you still have the draft capital or the prospect capital when you need to spend it in the reds might be in a position around August. Thirty first can spend it to make their team better in the short term well if they win the world title like they normally do during difficult times over the last five championships. Will it be actually a world series title worth having when you consider the season I say not only yes, I say hell. Yes, is worth it because it is unique and different. What is Mo- Agar? Say when the? When the reds win the world series. Will it be worth it? Well they're going to have a season. They're going to keep score. Would you rather your team didn't win? No, then win no! I mean no the same people who tell me the season's not going to be. Legitimate are the same ones who when Joey votto strikes out to end the game with the bases loaded crying. Grumble about it so if the failures are going to be legitimate, then the successes are going to have to legitimate. I thought David Bell. Put this well last week when he first met with the baseball writers when he said Look. Whoever celebrates this thing at the end we'll have navigated through a series of things unprecedented in the history of any sport right unforeseen challenges that nobody could have prepared or or imagined for years ago or four months ago. It's going to be an extraordinary test of roster depth of mental toughness of team chemistry to a degree I think. If you win the world series this year, clearly it's. It's different. It's different. Different doesn't have to mean less meaningful We don't put Asterix on things we've had. A world title is shortened seasons. We've had world titles in seasons that were cut in half like the dodgers and one. We've had a know sixty years of teams winning the World Series when the sport wasn't integrated. You always add in the details. You always color in the details. Details when you tell the story of a season. Clearly you would have to color in the details telling the story of this season. How it was shortened, it was played in front of no fans. It didn't start until July that were covert nineteen protocol j. rule changes that that got thrust on people. If you can survive all that you win, something great to me. You've accomplished something very. Very much worse celebrating, and if that team ends up being the reds I would enjoy it immensely. Let's hang the Pannon. Hang the banner and Mo. Thank you for coming on the bill. Cunningham show. We'll see what happens to Ohio. State and you see football the bengals all that stuff what they're without later, but Mo. thank you, and may you continue to have a great day? Thank you. Really. Thank God. Bless America let's continue with more your reaction. Five, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand bill. Cunningham newsradio seven hundred wwl wwl. Billy Cunningham the great, American. Let's continue now a little bit of excitement here. Because reds, baseball appears now more likely than not of course, tickets are not being sold, but that's good for radio, so the consequence Tommy Thrall and Jeff Brantley at all is going to be broadcasting, think from great American ballpark two and a half weeks from now on Friday. July twenty fourth two weeks from this coming Friday starting Pitcher, so according to David. Bell may be named in the next few days and away we go, and for those who say let's not do this. Compared to what a lot of people say, well, it's uncertain. One is life other certain. It's always uncertain and from my perspective as a great American I. Look at it this way. That there may be some players who test positive and looking at the COVID Nineteen Institute for Health Metrics and evaluation at the University of Washington USA Fax Dot Org. The headline should be daily corona debts continue to plummet as confirmed cases hit record levels. There's a disconnect so one might ask how come we're having positive testing. How come we're having positive testing and I just got a note here from Jack Windsor Governor. Dewine Presser today. Is that correct? talked him real. Quick just happened to be calling in Jack Windsor. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show now I want to share with you. A headline that says daily Corona virus debts and US continue to plummet has confirmed cases hit record levels. How can both be true? Well they can both be true, because as we as I've I've said cases don't always equal and inspection cases can pick up symptomatic individuals they can pick up antibodies. They can be false positive and remember in the beginning we were testing the sickest of the sick. And now we're testing general population through these pop up. have sensors through kids going back to college soccer camps, people going to work and then people who deferred care going to sort of health. Health facility whether you're a hospital or doctor. Any type of outpatient care required to get testing and what you'll see is that almost all of those tasks are symptomatic or you know have such a low viral load that people don't even know that they have the virus and we know that this was here now in November of twenty one thousand nine, so my guess is people who have had it in the path are carrying some sort of you know loaded. Loaded it now and aren't even aware and the other. When I look at the US metrics from USA. Today there's about three million confirmed cases, which means there's about thirty to thirty five. Maybe as many as forty million people are symptomatic, because the CDC says if there's three million confirmed cases three million at least ten times that number have it and don't know they have it because there a symptom matic, and that's about thirty to thirty five million people and. And so when you watch or listen to the media, which you and I are very proud part you come away with the idea that we're in a complete crisis, and that people are dying report to the cemetery, and nothing could be further from the truth and fact, the media continues to beat the drum of a horrible pandemic, and in fact you said the other day that possibly the United States government, and who may no longer call this a pandemic explain. So the CDC came out with numbers I think it was week twenty six as of last week, and for ten straight weeks the death rate has plummeted, and so that from a an epidemic threshold standpoint is almost to the point of disqualifying it, but one of the major headlines in a major state earned Major Ohio newspaper today. Read the hospitalizations. Maybe on the increase s increase. We've increased testing for well over a month. Now and hospitalizations don't lack by month. We are not seeing the transition from an increase in cases. Cases the hospitalizations. Here's the thing that I wanted to tell you too I got a tip from state representative this morning and it was indicated to me that the governor may actually mandate masking in certain counties throughout state, and my guess would be Cuyahoga Franklin Hamilton Butler in Montgomery, and when you look at the numbers that have all of those communities had yesterday in terms of cases and hospitalizations and deaths I mean if you add up one two, three, four, five of them, and of those five pounds or eighteen total hospitalizations in. In those what we would call probably our most populated. Counties in the state of Ohio and it it appears that math mandates will be rolled out in all or some of those communities, and they will be prosecuted because the governor is going to beat a Senate bill fifty five, which takes away the criminal penalty and financial find for people who Break Orders Insane, so Jack Windsor the five large counties of which Hamilton is at number three on the list. We've had eighteen hospitalizations and one death, and the and the last twenty four hours, and that's causing the governor to declare. Everyone has to wear a mask. So get this. That's not even that's not even Hamilton. That's all that's of Franklin Hamilton Butler Montgomery. Hamilton, only had three cases zero hospitalizations zero death as of today now that that may change it to two PM. You know they'll. They'll report again at two PM, but that's that's what's reported over the last. That's what has actually happened over the last twenty four hours according to state site and so yeah, those are the numbers that are GonNa Roll people into mandatory masking, and if you look at the languaging of the level four, it basically says stay put only go out for supplies in the Susidies, so you know we have this coding system that actually creates more control and more of a lockdown when we don't even have the numbers to justify being in an epidemic, let alone be in lockdown again, but when I had. County Commissioner Denise Treehouse the president. Hamid County Board of County Commissioners. She said we do not have the power to impose masking everyone at Hamilton County but the governor does I'm told that Democrats and Republicans in the five large counties are kind of pushing dewine to do this because they're being told, this is required to be done the city. Cincinnati's going to twenty five dollar fine. So what happens weren't level four, which means damn near Defcon four close a nuclear war. If we get to level five that means everything shut down, so if the governor the governor says Hamilton. County is in level four, which is, don't go out of your house unless you have. For Medicine, go to the hospital or to get food if we are declared level for. Does that mean we go back to the activities? We were involved in at the end of March. It sure seems that way. I'm going to try to get clarification on that today as he rolls this out but it seems like yes, at a minimum math, and then we have to follow the orders, and if the order for that county is, you can only go out for necessities. It would only be logical to say Yeah, you can only go out for those things, and if you are doing things other than those things, then you could be in trouble in my understanding is that he's GonNa work hard to prosecute listening now what? What I'm hearing from I, talked to a constitutional attorney. Today is that I'm working up an article on the power of sheriffs and police officers, and then of course, the local prosecutor. It seems to me that there's a ton of power that is within that trilogy there as to whether or not, they're going to enforce an order in order is not a law. Law passed by the legislature. But you know there's a lot of debate by that are on that, but at the end of the day it's gotta be either the sheriff or the police officer. In the prosecutor, who's willing to take cases prosecuted so I don't know where each county is with those three. That would be an interesting thing. Well. Jack Windsor in our county Joe Deters. WHO's been here? He was prosecuting dinosaurs. He's been here forever. He said he's not going to be the health police and they're too busy with real criminals, and if some citizen is violating a mask, he said we're not going to prosecute. When there's a healthcare emergency declared, and when health director issues, directive, and someone violates that that's an M. to that carries up to ninety days in jail and seven hundred and fifty dollar fine, but. But it's up to the prosecutor. The deputy sheriff's and the police whether arrest someone so if someone's violating that order in Madeira which has his own little police department, which is about the best? There is or green township that has a contract with Hamilton County. It's up to the share for the local police to actually a bay could legally they could legally arrest you. Top can arrest someone if there had they see a misdemeanor committed in their presence, so if a COP sees. Sheriff Dave walking down the street. A mask on. He's got the legal power to handcuff him and take them down to the Hamilton County Justice Center and charge him with an m two now. He might be released by Sheriff Neil, but that's one hell of a burden, so one might ask because we've had so little and five the largest counties in Ohio deaths. We've had a total of one. Why is this an emergency? I have no idea other than the idea that I do have one idea it's this thing is being wheeled as political power, I think this is about socialization of medicine, socialization of Education and other things, and by the way. Isn't it interesting that we let people out of prison when they could have been wearing masks if masks were if masks work why it'd we letting prisoners out of prison, and at the same time. Time you're going to put people in jail, who don't WanNa wear masks and charge them a fine when there are hundreds of thousands of ohioans who didn't get a penny of unemployment and didn't get any relief when their jobs are taken from them or their businesses were shuttered. I mean if you WanNa talk about good being bad and bad being good and things being upside down. I can't find a better example so real criminals I mean arsonist rapists, robbers, drug dealers multiple Dui offenders are let out of jail to make room for those. Don't wear a mask to go to jail. Yeah Yeah? Would say we didn't have the you know the most you know. High, pike tiered criminals. Let out if they were people that were close to the end of their. You know their term or whatever and they negotiated things, but at the end of the day. Yeah, that's that's the case and you know with Senate. Bill Fifty Five He's going to veto it, so that's going to create a criminal prosecution element so someone can go to jail. They have to pay a fine and. it within the same week is probably GONNA sign off on Senate bill three, which got the judiciary and allows for people who have been prosecuted for judge drug charges to not go to jail, so it's just so odd to me and look. I'm not saying that people who have an addiction problem should have additional help, but isn't it interesting that we're letting people out of jail and putting people who have the constitutional rights as long as they're not under a dictator I. We're putting those people in jail and whacking them with. With fines when the running out of money, anyway because their jobs and businesses were taken from one might ask. Why does the media only talk about confirmed cases of infection rates, and not talk about things such as fatality, which is plummeting the other way, and the more we get into this, it appears it's been in the mid west since at least November of last year, so we're in the seventh month of this thing, real pandemic would be raging at this point in Ohio have Iran at all for this morning at ten am. Every one hundred thousand residents in Ohio there's twenty five deaths per one hundred, thousand and up to twenty five seventy percent or a nursing homes, so in the general population that breaks down to about eight deaths per one hundred thousand, and that rates going down, not going up correct. That is correct. It is absolutely going now. The one thing that some folks in the media will point to say well, you know the positivity rate is going up and it. It has slipped up a little bit, but I tell her that with look. We know Barbara Burke said. Forty fifty percent of these tests are false. Positives. We know that they're picking up. Strains of other viruses and antibodies and they're coming from people who are ASE symptomatic, so you know if there is a slight increase that takes around five percents, and by the way the CDC says you're at about five percent positive anti the the virus is under control, and if you go to CDC site, they have combined corona virus, illness and influenza like illness and report it, and when you look at their dashboard, the entire United States screen. We don't even have a green color on our advisory. On our advisory panel, so we're either in yellow or orange, red or purple, and you know words and colors matter colors evoke emotion. We'll at the CDC site and it looks like we're in good shape. You look at the Ohio site and it looks like we're helping why. It's the same data correct. Well, it is the same data know I posted something yesterday about lying with statistics One, satistics course in college and I learned early on, and you can make the data. Say things that you wanted to say and that's why. I've been so adamant. You know I think a lot of criticism because people think I have a party or an agenda. I just have I have a dog in the fight. That's the truth and you can't have the truth unless you split this thing. Wide Open and report all of the information with within its entirety and when. When you look at the information, it just does not add up the policy. It doesn't add up to the panic and you know my greatest fear is anxiety and fear has a tremendous impact on our health on our mental wellbeing on suicide, and we just tend to ignore that and I'm not saying that we shouldn't take care of the small percentage of the population. That's most effective. But we alone the opportunity to do that by focusing on everything now Jack Winston. Holding a news conference at two o'clock and you're saying today could be very interesting. It could be very very interesting. It could be a day where we learned that. Math mandates and large counties like Montgomery Butler Hamilton Franklin Cuyahoga. The they may be mandated and It's interesting because the surgeon general actually backpedaled a little bit on Friday and said yeah, people should wear masks, but we should not mandate them because of the divisiveness, and because of the fact that you know healthy people shouldn't wear masks necessarily they should wear them in. Settings where it's appropriate, but we're gonNA, I just seem loss over that. My understanding is going to mandate outdoor and indoor math I. could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but that's the tip by. Jack, Windsor, thank you very much. We'll be paying attention. Please give me a call back later this week. Please I. Will God bless you? They'll change. Jack wins or W. MFT, which is Mansfield TV and Jacqueline's has been on this like A. Like a pit bull on a pork chop for a long time, so let's get your reaction. Way of six lines open, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, and I will spend him which we know, one o'clock and two o'clock with you because this information I've been told it's coming. If it's coming, get ready for it. You might go to jail if you don't wear a mask. It's continue with more Bill Cunningham with you every day. Your home of the reds thank God starting July twenty fourth on newsradio seven hundred WWL W. I WANNA. Dog Out. At? The door they foul. Best! Leave this little awful. Lot when? I was bad. OF THE BOWL! I was born in Saint. He's in Covington. December the eleventh, nineteen, forty, seven, very proud of that I, love Chinese and I love governed. So. Let's continue with your calls. Now and thousands, or and hold as of yesterday Ohio Department health report, a total case in cases in Ohio, Fifty, seven, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, six and total deaths on two days, a total of sixteen deaths, which is the same number that died in crashes on the Highway Sixteen now, what if the media and the governor and the highway patrol covered traffic deaths and the same quality consistency as they cover covert nineteen? None of us were getting a car again. Let's go to your calls I'm done babbling I. Want to hear from you and whose name I operate. Line becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand I'm told now by by Rick Pitino that the governor is speaking about two. Oh Five! This afternoon starts about two to three, so according to speculation and it's only speculation. At this point. The governor's going to crack down on. Butler and Hamilton County. Even more, so we'll see what happens. I know he's being politics by some especially. Democrats to crack down more. The media does not want the kids to go back to school, even though no schoolchild in Ohio as Didigova nineteen, the media doesn't want that to happen. The media wants businesses to be shut down and the media wants of course everyone to wear a mask. And the flattening of the curve, which was the original idea? There was no curve and Ohio. Kentucky Indiana to begin with. Never did go up and the idea was a flat in the curve was not to keep these restrictions in place until no one got sick, the object was to have room and the hospitals to cover it in the state of Ohio. There was about thirty four thousand hospital beds. The most covert nineteen patients at one point in any hospital. Relative to the total was fifteen hundred out of thirty four. Thousand doesn't appear like a crisis to me now if you got it, nobody wants it. I'm careful. I wash my hands. I stay away from crowds. I've master my left pocket. Right here. I've disinfected everywhere I. Do that is not a hoax. It's a real thing. My comment is the proportionality of the fear as composed of the impact, especially those under the age of forty years old, little or no impact, skulk children zero impact. So. Let's continue with your calls and I'll quit babbling to Steve Jeb. Fins show Abraham Nancy Steve from. Bayton Ohio Steve Welcome to the Bill Cunningham show Steve Go ahead. Man Great data being American. Listen the last time I talked to. You was when the twin towers came down but I. Listen to you every day and I got something. You should here, so it's only been nineteen years in. Nike you're talking. I'm glad you called back. Let's do it again and nineteen years. What do you think well? We can do that on our anniversary all right good. So, let's like girlfriend called me today she works. At. A restaurant in the small town of Miami was just outside of Dayton. And she can talk to a couple of our. Good friends that we know and they said well. We went and got. Tested for the Tobin. Today and But before we could do the test if we had to fill out some paperwork well I guess the test was. was just such a long time to wait for. They decided just leave. Well, they got home. And I don't know what the time line is, but apparently what the testing place called them and said that they were both positive, and they never even got swapped. Then! You can tell just by looking at somebody I guess. I I I don't understand it, but they wouldn't lie about it. I mean they've been friends forever, but I. Just think this is. Something more to this than. Well what let me give you fact. Steve Ohio has had debts of two, thousand, nine, hundred and forty. This is out of twelve million people the typical flu season, A. Seventeen hundred deaths seventeen hundred this year. We're at twenty, nine, hundred and the general population. It has killed seven of every one hundred thousand ohioans now. If you're in Kentucky where I born I was raised I. Keep all my yesterdays in Kentucky. There are thirteen deaths per one hundred thousand and the general population. They're six in Tennessee. It is nine out of one hundred thousand. And, in fact, it looks like a bad flu year in the Midwest where acting as if we're all about to die and I'm not claiming that if you get it, it's OK Steve. If you got it or I, got it. It would be bad, so I do things in my life stopped from occurring. Can I stop completely? No but I wear a mask I wash my hands I. don't go into crowds and I. Keep a low profile. You probably do the same thing and that's. Yeah I. Do I where we are. Supposed to wear at work when we get within those talks. One and high because I work. I work a lot by myself, but. I just don't think that the truth which you speak of every day I don't think the truth getting out once the agenda, the me the agenda of the media courses defeat trump and have chaos. The headline in one website said that's continue to plummet. and. That's not a headline here in the media. All you hear in the media's positive testing, which honestly doesn't mean a lot I could get tested today and not have it. Catch it somehow tonight and I would act as if I didn't have what I did. I think testing is interesting, but what's important, are our hospitalizations, fatalities and I? See visits in Ohio Kentucky Indiana. Those are not going up there coming down. Well, and and also you know the plastic that is interesting, but the what's what's really interesting is when people go to get tested, and they don't even get Schwab and they're called and told they have it. That's you know? There's something wrong there and it's reported as a positive test and fact Jack Give you another one department of Health. Let's say sheriff Dave Test Positive has no symptoms, and he's going to have to work for fourteen days, and on the on the twelfth days tested again, and he's positive then he's positive again then he's negative. That's three test for one person all positive day, the test and not equate to a person and equates to test and that that's not well reported. Let's continue on. Thanks for your call. Let's talk again in Nineteen Years Jeff in Greenville. By the way Jeff, where is Greenville? The Dayton Ohio in Richmond Indiana God bless America Jeff. Go, ahead! Okay well I just wondered I was curious what I googled. How are the tests or the case has been reported now compared to when the pandemic started, and they've completely changed the new probable case definition. So now there politics counting probable cases of Covid as cases, so if you come in contact with somebody, you've been positive and they checked your phone contact testing contact tracing. Anybody who came in contact with now probable, so let's let's break this down. Let's say Sheriff Day my producer. He test positive and he gives the names of Scott Sloan Bill Cunningham segment Denison Brian. It gives seven or eight names of people. He's been around. The system counts. All of us is positive. That's correct, but. Case definition. It started on April Fifth and According to. Collin County Texas A. Court hearing, Commissioners Court hearings. They had the local health department. There were also stating that if you go to our conference. I pitcher took bar and say there's one hundred people there. They don't have time to do all the contact for those people, so they say he has to me. There's a hundred people there all then fifty of 'em about probable, so there's fifty more cases, so there's a possibility of a one to fifty times. The people being counted as positive that haven't even been tested and the average is sixteen times each. Forty million tests allegedly in this country that is resulting in so far one hundred, thirty, one thousand, so trump, says forty million breakdown that number forty million ten percent of forty, million is four million one tenth, one percent of forty, million is four hundred thousand. Four hundred thousand, now one tenth of one percent of that would would be forty thousand, so when it's a death of one hundred thirty one that is well below well below one percent. And the media access if it's ninety nine percent and look look at Ohio Ohio has about twelve million residents. Eleven point seven. Varies figuring twelve million one percent of ohioans is one hundred and twenty. Thousand is one percent is one hundred twenty thousand. We've had twenty nine hundred deaths, not one hundred, twenty thousand. We're at the point of almost one hundredth of one percent, and we're acting as if it's an ongoing crisis, we have to guard against I. Get a flu shot I. Titus Shot I. What do you call it? The the herpes reinfection kind of a deal that you have to get because your chicken pox. Whatever the hell that is I go to I go to Adrian. Pharmacy Madeira with Wayne. Moore's and he has my records. It gives me shots all the time and I preemptively just so i. don't get something and I'm doing things in my. My Life, so I don't get covid nineteen, but it's not the same thing as nineteen ninety nine hundred years ago, when really two point two million Ohi two point, two million Americans died, and at this point where one hundred and thirty thousand. If you're one hundred thirty thousand, Jeff, that's a serious problem, but we have the actors. We have to measures commensurate with the harm. According to Google to say chicken Google Howard are how is the CDC defining the probable covid Nineteen Chase now? Ohio was one of the. It was the first state to start this new probable. Definition and the definition says that you do not have to have a laboratory tests to prove you were cova positive. All you have to come in contact have made me a sniffle, a headache site, Caesar or if as in Texas where they use the Cova tracing I, I believe to your telephones. They where you went and divide it by half, and those are the people that are sick whether they've been tested or not. JEFFEY READY FOR THE BIG QUESTION! Sure. Why does the media want to school shutdown? Everyone to wear a mask. The bars and restaurants that go out of business and everyone would be scared the crap out. What is the media do this? because. They're left leaning socialist. Who are trying to change? The outcome of the next election and to get this country running towards the Communist, Marxist Cycle our scientists. Jeff from Greenville go to Vincent Covington. The home of Rob Sanders Vinson Covington welcome to the bill. Cunningham. Show Vince go ahead. They'll great. How you doing God. Bless America go ahead. My question is, is it? defecates are not going up. They're going down. The positive cases are going up. But from what I hear, you can go into a hospital. Get tested three times. He test positive all three times as a three different cases all in one person. But. The more people that get it and survive. They can't pap it on afterwards, so doesn't that get closer to her immunity? Absolutely, it does in fact you can't say this because it's not politically correct. But the reason the test results are going up positive and the death rates. Going down is no longer is killing so many older folks It's attacking those that are younger, which means believe it or not. It's a positive because they develop. In, which case they can't pass it on and so in a sense because. They are not at risk the best thing to do. healthwise is to get the kids back in school, because by doing that, they're not at risk, and if they do become so called quote, in fact, the great majority, give off the antibodies, which means it's going to kill the covert completely. The worst thing to do is send them back home and living society as opposed to a controlled environment, but. That doesn't fit the chaos that the media wants America to be in. If we go back to normal, that's a bad thing as opposed to saying look, we have a problem. We have to live with covert and keep America running. We gotTa do both and the media wants it to be shut down the Democrats I've just it up the CDC website on July fifth, which was Sunday, there was a total of two hundred nine deaths in the whole country, a covert nineteen, two hundred, but there were six hundred fifty, four thousand positive test. But the death rate is plummeting. The highest ever was. There's three thousand a day. It's now down to two hundred nine. Do know that from listening to the media. Know, why and because. That's the way the the media operate. Say Operate two year and let's scare everybody in and keep them inside, so they don't know what's really going on. Hold on, I mean even more numbers from July third three hundred twenty deaths in America, July fourth was two hundred and fifty eight in America July fifth was two hundred nine for the last ten days every day. The total number of deaths have gone down and we talked about a country, three hundred and thirty million people. They have two hundred deaths in one day. Is that a pandemic? No Not, even close well, we gotta run up against the clock. We gotta run. State short break. We. Got The governor on a two o'clock today sheriff Dave's good friend. Mike, Dewine will be here. He and I texted back and forth the governor and I and there's been small discussions having a meeting at some point, so I can tell them what people think average people like you and me. What you when I say about this? I think the governor. He's a good man. A good woman he's being. He was misled by Dr. Amy Acton for like two and a half months, and now he's being misled I. Think by The New York Times and MSNBC and also MS ESPN. So we'll see what happens in got the news segment quickly back to your calls at five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand at two o'clock, we hit scheduled today. Stephen Are Adam stopped by the man call the man, but because of the governor. He's going to be bumped. Adams has been bumped. On newsradio seven hundred wwl Avi I've had this feeling. I'm putting. In My. Handedly like began virus day out. Quiet! On Broadcasting, who. Had this. Lake Lake singlehandedly like. Virus Day out. We miss her segment. We miss her greatly doctors to run for governor. She's going to run against Portman for the Senate maybe Shelvin for the Congress. Yes, she's moving up about as much chance as me then she's holding Ohio in our say. Go Out, get, out get out. Segment we have the governor coming up a two of five? My sources tell me. He's GonNa crack down on Butler Hamilton Cuyahoga Franklin. Summit counties and say you must wear a mask. Now used to be if you're wearing masks got arrested now. If you don't wear masks, you get arrested. Will you wear a mask? We but the trend. I'll wear a mask. Willie if the governor says so yes but I. Mean I I mean it's only gonna I mean we can't wear a mask while we're on the air, can we yes? I'm GONNA bring. My Mascot might use it tomorrow. Is it is it? Is it like as you're asked? Like I'm an American flag or does say trump twenty twenty on it? Or does it just say great American? That's a stupid question, right? I'm just asking a course. Roddy Bruce Rotties wife gave me the American flag mass. I'm just saying I'm wearing I've been away for a while so I. I gotTa get on. How does it feel to be furloughed for ninety days? You liked it, didn't you? I needed a lawyer. I wanted to call Steven are atoms well. I was having him on at two o'clock. Now it's not looking good. Maybe tomorrow. I got Marie. Thompson coming onto MAR FROM The constitutional eighteen fifty one constitutional rights every time he goes to court, he wins segment, gave me some sports and make it fast, and what about Patrick Mahomes a half a billion dollar. That's I think you'll get a stimulus package. he. Maybe, he'll give some of it back now to buy. Some of those arrests taxes on that five, hundred three hundred. Thirty forty. percent. Ought to get some of those erection pills. Willie Stern reporter, proud service, every local tempstar heating and air-conditioning dealers tempstar quality. You could feel beautiful Milford Call Baker heating and Western hills called Durban. Heating and Cincinnati Schmidt Heating and Cooling Cincinnati Calls Sean. Sean Sheldon broad at Ron Heating. The Indiana Call Joel Stein. And Cincinnati Stacey heating and air solution. Yeah and Cincinnati Call Wyoming Air Yeah Mouland in all since I. Miss You. Miss is ninety days and now you're getting them all. Let's see willy. We're seventeen days away from opening day. What happens? Trump catches covert nineteen. The president will go Kuku. The president of Brazil as tested positive for cove night shows the mayor of Atlanta. I heard correct Keisha bottoms. Job What happens if trump tests positive? What? What is the meaning of CNN go? Simply, go off the air and so will your good friend Rachel Maddow? Oh. No. That's a bad word by talking to you, but. Let's see. we'll either read sir seventeen days away from the season against those Detroit. Tigers and Tracy Jones also twenty-fourth Tracy Jones a design. Yeah, there, a couple of exhibition games, GAB people before that. before the opener. Stick up nick. Nick Cassiano today will he doesn't WanNa D. H.. said he chose the rigid free agency to play right field every day so here we now look at it this way here we go. He signed a four year sixty some million dollar deal that he can opt out after one year. That's what he ain't opted out of nothing. No, how `Bout bets about Luke Bech turned down three hundred million, saying I'll test free agency. How's IT looking now? OOPS? Not, good, not good and how about your good friend Mike leake. Take a leak. Let's see speaking of Patrick Mahomes Willie. He will make more that massive contract extension of five hundred and three million dollars. Then Eli and Peyton manning made in their careers combined at five hundred one. What what? Patrick mahomes will make more money and that five hundred three million dollar contract extension. Than ally and Peyton manning combined and their careers, they made five hundred and one mill. Those two guys WANNA total of. How many Super Bowls! Four he li- he got to. Peyton got one with the colts in one with the with the horses correct. Alessi Williams Cincinnati GonNa make pitch today to bring the World Cup to town. Let's do it. Cincinnati one of seventeen finalists, the hosts soccer's biggest event in two thousand, twenty six. What are we put it well. They'll be planted FC Stadium I. Guess What About Ohio State unless. Played every play What we think the Bengals let Paul Brown stadium in absent well. Yes, because the bengals stadiums owned by Hamilton County there, you go speaking of soccer. Nashville in Chicago the MLS game tomorrow night has been postponed five Nashville players testing positive for the virus. Here we go. Here, we go here, we go. You know what about I getting, you, sheriff? Dave, Jimmy Matt Steinman, and at all in a bubble, because without you guys. There's no reds baseball being produced thoroughly. Man, Tommy Thrall Jeff. Brantley Tom Brenna. Hand Chris. Welsh get them all in the bubble with Jesse Jackson, but don't forget Jim Day get there to. Get them all in the bubble, and then Willie of course this weekend. race action at Kentucky speedway. Sorry, no fans! Five races Thursday through Sunday and we'll have all the coverage right here on seven hundred wwl W ESPN fifteen thirty with. specs dockside. Again from the back side and start accepting folks in their backside. Is that Mark Diener. No, I don't think so. Danny, Sheri's accepting boats. Wild. Man Walker. You and I welcome the segment back I'm glad sad man is back was. I was talking to Wander Kitty paid. I gave up ten percent of my salary to give to him. I figured you would do. How you're getting lonely. They're very lonely now. What about Anderson Redskins, what can you tell me about that one? What can I tell you about that? Let's put it this way. Willie anybody that went to that school. It's upset very upset. The natives are restless. They were very upset. Was the way it was done Willie. Public feedback. Go behind you know behind closed doors and do it. It's just raw so raw. Right there segment on the left. What's hanging around the neck? Rick Pitino! I'm a Su Sushi. Or it's on chief and I had on that chief counsel from South Dakota and they said it's acceptable to them to call Anderson is for the Redskins, because they have the symbols filled with honor and glory. What about the cat? What about the Kansas City chiefs? Pastor. What about the Atlanta Braves? Cincinnati do you think possibly Cincinnati's an emperor Rome. Monte had some slaves. What do you think about the part? Yeah. They were brutal and mean to the. Question are you ready for it? Let me. Let me! Let me gird my loins. Go ahead. Thirty home games correct. Yes. Yes, we'll be allowed in Willie No. Not at all I'm Mike Dewine is GonNa Declare I think in twelve minutes. Some sort of an emergency in Butler and Hamilton County we're the red status and they're gonNA. He's going to require us to to stay home where masks crawl on your belly on the sidewalk and live in a jar under your bed so I. I don't think that'll happen I. Have I have to I? Don't like wearing their high and they're hard to get used to. One is an AC DC. Mass Other as a mass with the number on it well guess what number it is Let me think Twelve, twelve, thirteen, fourteen fifteen. Sixteen. Seventeen, now Marvin retired by the red number one. Fred Hutchinson. He played third base birds faith he plays. These rolling gene freeze. Gene freese. Pedro Pete Rose paid I'd I would I wouldn't think when guests that that. We gotta go something important, but I thought you always for calling in. Really talked. Now! You're doing well sake. We'll talk fast. Buddy, thank you. All right. Thank you man segment place continue. In honor of a beautiful day, but hot again into Tristate, and will we have to wear a mask? You WanNa. Get some erection pills. Just listening to the station. Will he was on his State, nine thousand nine hundred ninety three. Tom Browning left the reds. dugout Wrigley Field in uniform. Walked across the street to a group of fans on the roof of apartment building behind the right field bleachers at Wrigley field and tipped his cap to the reds dugout. Wedding on the Brownstone. Manager David Johnson not funny. Five hundred dollar fine signed was not no, he was not APP. Why did he do that? I guess Willie I think he said. He had a liven it up. Because things weren't going well for our red legs at that time said it was bored correct, you wanted to mix things up a little bit correct. he did. I don't know if you work at you. Go I guess I guess. One of the reds could climb heritage bank center in wave everybody from this time there's nobody to wave to the Brownstone. Take of the tickets in the Brownstone 's the value with no Wrigley field fans when the cubs play. Now things that'd be pissed off. Yes, field of dreams! They're GONNA the. They're gonNA have the cardinals and the cubs. I thought it was the white sox. That's it the white sox and cardinals. Why not? The reds because that was nineteen dollars shoeless Joe Dollars. Cincinnati now they want Chicago White Sox and Saint Louis. Cincinnati and the White Sox or anybody gonNA, be their. Coordinate GonNa let people in a bunch of corn stalks. Next ten minutes should be interesting. We'll see what happens willie. I was supposed to have Steven Adams on today, but. Not Going to happen on moving tomorrow might have to, and I also have an expert on gives Lane Maxwell, their procure, teenage girls for Jeffrey, Epstein a Guy woman wrote a book on how she would groom these teenage girls, and now we're told by New York Post that Maxwell has sex tapes of these not individuals with these underage girls, and that's how Epstein got paid was to extort money from the prince. Andrew's of this world and the bill. Clinton's Whoa whoa any chance that you'll be on some of those tapes now invited. What about you know? Now. I wasn't invited segment. Give me out of the students reporting. On another brutally hot day here in the tri-state stay safe stay cool, and by the way good. Star quality, you could feel see that. What is the headline saying? Can you read that from there? no daily Coronas Vars, deaths and US continue to plummet. You Go. Not, a story segment man, get me out of the stooge report. We leave you with the immortal words of this to report. We've had enough of that, too. I drake hydrate. Segment are you on tape performing any sexual acts gnome? Continue with more coming up in about ten minutes as Jack, Crumley is good friend. Governor Mike DeWine. And by the way the emails Texas between him, going back and forth if he does what I think is going to do at two o'clock tomorrow, and that's going to be good for the Governo. That happens. Ladakh toll will leave the peace talks. Henry Kissinger will remain what will, and he's lay and I'm Henry. Let's continue with more fifty three minutes after the hour. Good to have the segment back. We might have Ron's roost here on Thursday. Putting out a bad signal Peron's roost ron mark and will he be here on Thursday at one o'clock? Has a mask on. Yes, got to wear a mask. and. The chicken will have individual masks chicken pieces. Oh, I've mask onto like a leg in abreast. Don't we all not necessarily in that order on newsradio seven hundred wwl view. Billy Cunningham. 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Hour 2: Please Don't Forget

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

31:33 min | 3 months ago

Hour 2: Please Don't Forget

"God's diehard batteries of the MVP of reliability the durability player of the year year after year are in the starting power hall of fame and the best part. Now, you can get them at advance auto parts yet diehard batteries are now at advance auto parts, and you can score free testing and free installation with purchase of a diehard battery without an appointment put a winner under your hood adventure, auto advance, auto parts, and participating carquest locations most vehicles, most locations I'm sorry, Christine, we interrupted you. And finally in two thousand, thirteen, a woman claimed she got pregnant by eating McDonald's. Thank you Christine we appreciate your time as always Stu gods I want to play something in front of the audience that's more serious because I. Know we're all enjoying Luca in the games and the playoffs are fine and there's plenty to talk about now we know we crawled across a desert across four months looking for any kind of sports content and during that. the streets were aflame and you saw on espn how politics stumbled into everything we were doing we didn't have sports to talk about, and then we were talking all the time about social justice stuff over four months, and now the screaming in the streets has quieted some right and sports her back and I ask you please to pay attention to the video gone viral in Wisconsin because it'll make you sick to your stomach it is. Disturbing and if it had happened two months ago, it would have echoed across America from sea to shining sea in a way that it might not today because it's easy for us to get lost in the distractions so that screaming in the streets was about for racial justice I ask you to take a look at that video of you what it is in front of his loved once in front of his loved ones it that video will. Discussed you the same way that George Floyd narrating his death will discussed you and you need to look at it because I don't WanNa get too far distracted because we're saying all the right things with the social justice messages but we're not noticing what these protests were about and what are about and where they started with George Floyd and there was this silence and George Floyd was not different from this video right here we just know. That name because of the timing and because of where America was being aflame. But what I'm telling you is this video is the same as that video. It'll make you throw up in your mouth a little bit. It'll make you say, no, not in front of his loved ones dot in his back not you don't have to shoot him that many times. What are you doing like? What are you doing in this America? What are you doing? And it's infuriating and I don't want you to get too far afield from that because it's real easy. When the sports come back, it's why the basketball guys we're talking about any should we actually go do this? Should we actually do this? For America? Should we go entertain them and distract them when our people are being you know not allowed to breathe because an officer is on their neck or shot in the back seven times in video that. We all consume and have a feeling nauseous said into your stomach dodges sports coming back pajamas you know normalcy to your life coming back in some places not all places whether you believe it should or not but don't forget the conversations album had a sitting and all the progress that was made is a fair point is people get busier and busier more distracted and more distract. This is what I'm telling you screaming in the streets goes Barry's across centuries because. That is normalcy for black people. That is their normalcy. They don't want to go back to that being okay where there's another name and another death in another I can't breathe then it doesn't matter and we don't remember the name because it's just another one. It's another one to disturb you in the video wage. We were supposed to come through all of this after Rodney King and it's what Carl Douglas has told us how many times where he's like all this happening now is that you are seeing for yourselves what black people have been screaming about across decades it's irrefutable and it. Will sick in you. If you care at all about humanity, but the place that you will lose me as you don't care about the humanness of black people, the humanity you do not think of them as human if what all you see when something like that video appears is a threat who's a black man and he's a threat just because he's a black man and even when he's got his back to you, he's a threat because he's a black man more of a threat than anyone else like absorb it because those those streets have gotten quieter. And the machine wants to shift back to where it was. We're always talking about the difference between white and Black America where black people are like. The System Works. And White people are like the system. Doesn't work. You're in a place right now you tell me I'm wrong about this. Where the system, the systemic racism that people are talking about here. That black people look at that and say, this is the system working the way that you want it to work. You incarcerate us at a ridiculous rate, the jury pools contaminated at ridiculous rate. We die in the streets ridiculous rate we're dying from the corona virus at a ridiculous rate while still doing America's labor because we do not have the money and so disproportionately, we end up in the meat packing plant that you gotta go in because you're less human. Than others. And have been less human than others in our country for how long I know I've gotten super series on this all of a sudden but I'm telling you you can't watch that video and not feel something awful in the pit of your stomach unless you do not think that black people are worth beyond dignity the right to live. Just the right to live because. If you if you can't imagine. Okay. When George Floyd happens to all of us are like Oh, my God he's telling you please stop he's calling for his mother, his mother who is no longer alive because of the pressure on his neck please stop he's telling you if that doesn't reach shoot. Okay. If that if you say to yourself, no, I'm sorry the police officers got to protect himself for here I'm GonNa Smear George Floyd because of whatever his criminal past is if that doesn't get you then I want you to imagine. WATCHING IN HORROR As a loved one of yours. Runs to a car. Away from police and then a shot in the back seven times and you have to watch him die. It's not just America. That's got to watch him die your. Right, there, and all of us are watching your loved one die like to me that reaches across the spectrum in a way that should touch parents. It should touch everyone and you connect us through that threat of humanity's to got because the part that will make you sick. Is. The helplessness. Of all of those people about doing anything about our government. Armed. Unofficial military protecting a system that works just fine for the people in power resulting in that too often throughout history across decades to black people. If you missed any of the show, you can listen to all three hours of the dam of Itar Job Plus, our Miami only hour and the big Sui on demand in the ESPN APP and subscribe to eleven daughter Fred's podcast network featuring south beat sessions stupidity mystery crepe please rate ed subscribe new episodes are posted every week wherever you get your podcast dance time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless. All right. So let's discuss what it is. That was the sports story of the day yesterday Luca Dunkin Oh they. Thought. This was obvious Champions League congratulations buyer, Munich okay. I must have misread that one. Okay Competition Professional Sports, my bad I'll sit it out I'm sorry xenophobic decision America only, and so please back off I. Understand world's greatest game and all of that. But in America what we're watching right now where there are stakes is basketball and look dockage did something yesterday that statistically has not been done very often only a couple of times in the sport and then he finished the game with the game winner that you never see from that distance like that's not that's a new evolution in the sport where Guy Decides no this is where I'm going to shoot from. This is my comfortable spot in this situation, he was hurt by the way. Every time every time throughout basketball history that we've been watching what you WANNA get in a much harder to get these shots at the rim everything you want stuff closer to the rim. Always that's an it's harder at the end of those games to get closer to the rim because everyone keeps you out there very few buzzer-beaters at the rim there tough to get an even the greatest among us playing basketball dwayne Wade Kobe, Bryant, Michael Jordan they missed more often than they made by a lot. Even. Though we don't remember that and I can't remember a single. Michael Jordan Miss I know it's crazy that you're talking about in those last spots they statistically all of them miss a lot more than they make and and you're doing really well, if you shoot like eighteen percent in those spots you're doing well, if at the end of the Games, you're shooting eighteen percent on game winners because everything just gets tightened up and Luca. Danni Chick Don kitch going. Near Half Court and say know this is where I'm going to end this game right here co kept bringing you back with two pointers kept bringing you back as Lou Williams keeps bringing you back with two pointers I'm going to end the game from out here, but another part of the story and I don't know how much this has been covered. I don't know the difficulties in covering it. So I helped me out if this is happening conversation on ESPN or elsewhere but. MANTRAS Herrell a said something during a game calling him a be a white boy and as we do this social justice campaign as black lives matters spread out on the court. That is not something that is necessary. In the middle of this we can all agree that that kind of talk is not okay and Mantras Herald apologized to Luca. Yesterday. But for those of you equating this with, well, what if someone said the other word, they're not comparable words. One of them is loaded throughout history with powerless getting impugned with by the power full calling a guy a white boy is bringing race into it unnecessarily mantras herald apologized and should have. Bringing in race totally unnecessarily, but it's not the same thing. Those aren't those aren't comparable on what the two words are. So I don't know how this is being discussed. The NBA's not going to step in and I would imagine that conservatives grab this sort of thing and run off into the distance with the idea. Well, what if that had been the N. Word that someone had? used. Can you imagine the controversy that would be but again, it's not the end word calling somebody even even if you go cracker or Honky, it's not that and so while he shouldn't have said it please stop with those bogus comparisons I saw Jay will from the morning show also post something on social media over I mean, they're clearly not the same being that you just said them. Yes. That's correct. But that don't you feel like that's people just grasping at anything but that's where we are. If you're paying attention to everything that's happening in this country I mean you saw what happened. With Curt Schilling and board of directors, it's a literal wall of division. That was being run as a platform that has over the last four years. What you've seen happen it's it's obvious to everybody involved. He's on the board of Directors Curt Schilling is. And money's allegedly being stolen. In a situation where they were trying to fund a wall to keep white people away from Mexican rapists and others that marching people all that division stuff that you find everywhere in our country right now curt schilling was wrapped up on the board of directors. Of that thing and we're just we're just so divided on everything. That beautiful free. Hold on a second though we've got a problem here because we know if this has been disinfected. Own. It. that. Out. The last time that this happened. We Stugotz. Said I think this box has the corona virus in it? So now we are going, do you have it? Will you? Why are you? There's another box on top of the box that I don't know if that box has been just. Like, everybody WHO's trying to get a rabid raccoon out of his basement? I mean, do we really need to check it at this point? I? Think it did its job. Well a little too late. Because I was filibustering fifteen seconds wait and be really surprised if anything's actually in their, he's having a hard time opening at all it's crossing. Rusty, there are two batteries, AA, There's some sort of lighting gadget. There's one lonely question writing. All right. So this is hold on a second. please. Put some sanitizer on that. Corona. Virus can live on surfaces I think in the Cleveland and abandoned hotel. They're all sorts of diseases here that have grown up for a long time and I believe absolutely that in this box opening up a time capsule, your a mad scientist what scientific experiment would you run if money and ethics? Weren't weren't an issue. Jesus money and ethics weren't an issue. I mean there should be no problem pursue God's at least. I mean, this is a STU. Got Wait a minute. Wait a minute I can be a scientist. This is the one route to you being no. No yes. Let's see if we is this, this is a judgement free zone then right? Yeah. Of course I'm I'm taking the question here are mad scientist? Call it. Whatever I say you can't call it into question I cannot crossbreed. Who? Disturbing? Island of Dr Moreau. No answer someone going for their again a mad right he's mad me new business. I would never do they thomas you on the front end that there would be a judgment free zone. No consequences because we'd started with the idea that you are mad at you feel someone that's like half man half, Cheetah? You. Could say that you can say that because it's Better that's what you're mad. Mad and we're not calling into question my ethics I feel. It's Ok does anyone else have any half rhino man does Roy what are you have here? Not only why actually complete smell-a-vision if which is smelling food, our have the television, make the food for you. All right. To good options I think of. Sort of morality allow Roy is just looking for his own life convenience but again, he's man. So there's no judgment here. It's not it's just he likes the smell. Waste his scientific power on just being able to smell delicious thing. I'm mad because I'm hungry and I'm hanger. Okay. Very good. It seems like a waste of the madness and the Science Roy the way that you've used it helping no one except you wanting the scent of barbecue and your house like you could just you know by an air fresher with instead of using all of this science on something like that. Ducked, the question Dan I'm continuing budget you have to We need an answer from you I mean, I think. By the way. Is I'm thinking in terms of something that Prince? Money I mean. Just. Something that printing. Right. But just for me yeah okay. So, money and ethics are not an issuance. God's is just GonNa decide to make some money. Okay. Other people's money. I think it'd make a machine that keeps dogs as puppies forever, and it lets them live forever all sal. How How about humans. Wake you. Think it's something that Prince, your money that I get to keep. We're already doing that. I just want to get rid of calories in general. We just do that stop counting calories. So all you man scientists doing something from selfishly as opposed to helping other. Well, you're mad. And finally, a Jiffy is an actual unit of time equivalent to one one hundredth of a second who knew. Who did know that? Thank you Christine. We have probably always I'm guessing. No new it Rick Pitino at some point figure that one out. Sixers job people are GonNa want that. Include, Rick. That's the much they care about the job they just hook. Onto that. Drawl embiid that's now a couple of seasons. The last thing image on him is him in tears him a giant of that size being just sort of a broken and sad ido people are to go after Brett Brown go. After Joel embiid they're gonNA go after Elton brand the guy that go after if you're sixer fan is Ben Simmons to be that athletic and that's how did and now three or four seasons in one. You know people are telling him hey, work on the three in the off season and you have a guy who is refusing. So work on the most important shot and today's NBA game to me. It lies with Ben Simmons like he is the problem there the fact that he could not hit that shot and refuses to work on that shot when you consider how important it is and how much money he's being paid. Ridiculous. There's Times where Stugatz more in you know it's just so interesting here you don't have to be sorry it's just the lack of introspection after a quarter century doing this is amazing. You're the broadcaster who refuses to read scripts and botches scripts and gets demoted and loses his job because you just refuse to practice. You simply refused to practice or take any care in the doing the scripts correctly, and then you come on the. Radio with no degree of irony. No sense of humor. You just crush Ben Simmons for being you it self-loathing I mean, let's be honest. You guys didn't want me to practice. You'd never wanted me to hit that shot. You want me to hit the three mean. So I've in practice. Okay. Well, we my job. Actually we made the most of the situation with everything, which is why Christine Lisi is right here when they've. Foisted upon us a sports update that can exist the way that we used to do it in their thirty minute slot. So we have to bring her on again after you've been replaced by here because it didn't fit the brand of the network, right about. Ben. Simmons get to work enough about me. Let's talk about Ben I mean seriously you're focused on me I'm focused on the sixers a bell we can focus on. Venezuelan. To you by way of analysis on that one because it's always interesting to me that you assume that these people have no interest in working on that sort of thing Jimmy. Johnson once upon a time was asked why his team with Emmett Smith didn't do more screen passes. because it seemed obvious, they had one of the best offensive lines ever. They've gotten at Smith and his response was we're not good at it. Like how much I coach him doesn't matter how much tried matter how good they are as otherwise everything else. We're not good at that thing. So we don't we're not doing it. I don't think it's a matter of laziness or Ben. Simmons doesn't care about his craft I think he can't shoot from out there and I don't know a lot of guys who can't shoot from out there that suddenly learn how to do it. I know like Jason Kidd went from. Shooting poorly from there to shooting well from out there. But Ben Simmons doesn't seem to be any good shooting from out there but it seems like everyone's learning how to do it. I was Brook Lopez good at it. I know I know, and that is where the game is changing in a way that you're just sort of confused by when Jaanus is merely. Unprecedented for his size shooting from out there if it had been ten years ago. But now everybody of that's is has to be able to shoot out there. It's the it's the fastest way that game has evolved. It's the thing in basketball that has happened like in baseball where it's all or nothing. We've all realized we've gotTA shoot fifty threes. We all gotta get good at hitting home runs and some guys in the big leagues probably still aren't good at hitting like Dee Gordon and Billy Hamilton. Going to be ever hitting home run I guess I'm just surprised that a guy who's that athletic who it appears like if he worked on it for a minute, he are good at it. You're you're right and what I would say to you is there it's possible that it's like asking Billy Hamilton to hit opposite field home runs because that's what everyone else is doing. Ben Simmons four size will totally cave in your defense with a a size athleticism with the ball that doesn't have much in the way of precedent, but he can't shoe and don't forget his ability to defend that on the perimeter we were saying like looking kitchen. is going to be able to get a shot off over anyone ben? Simmons is like one of the few that can keep up with someone like that on the perimeter I think it's really just frustration because you see. Ben. Simmons and if you just learns that outside shot, it could be an MVP they should be better and everyone expects them to be better. They came with expectations as in because they're not. You're going to blame Ben Salmon somebody else going to blame Brett Brown somebody else is GonNa. Blame. Joel embiid somebody else is gonNA blame out and brand. That's how that one happened to blame all I love the blame game. For and appointing a terrible and just like that franchise has been my entire life losers as you said, yeah a clinical losers there. Good riddance to this team. I don't know where sixers fans get off having expectations I it. We lost a bunch so we're supposed to be good. Okay Man. All right. Okay. I mean. I mean, if that worked everybody would be doing that work. The Cleveland browns would be dynasty got to kind of know what you're doing and when you get the picks you've proven yeah indeed worked out and Simmons despite his one gaping flaw he worked out but you had a lot more shots than that to get more talent and you botched that I, mean you want it all these lottery tickets and you can't even get out of the first round. It's hilarious. Funniest thing from this weekend. We will get to the funniest thing from these sports weekend in a second at Lebatardshow is where it is that you check us out. If you want to vote on any of the polls, the polls are available at lebatardshow stats will pull those up in a second but first, let's do funniest thing from the sports weekend. Pay People. What the sport menu laugh hard as weekend it is. They go. What made you laugh this weekend. But he is for the sports weekend is brought to you. By Dell Dell support small business month with savings up to forty five percent on computers with Intel core processors speak to a Dell Technologies Advisor at eight seven, seven s Dell or visit Dell Dot com slash small business deals. All right. So we don't talk about this beforehand. So we don't know what it is that anyone is thinking was the funniest thing from sport's weekend but if I had to guess with Mike Ryan I've got a guest. Let's see. Let's see if I'm right here. Hitter sixers, Fan. Oh, all the band tear in the world this summer we're better off without Jimmy Butler he was the problem. Terrible Franchise I mentioned that terrible franchise has built its entire identity on losing as much as possible and when it comes time to winning their surprise when they're not capable of it. Dan I laugh at this franchise and not just the funniest thing from this weekend. But pretty much the funniest thing of my lifetime. Mike has been going after sixers fan and he gets the last laugh. Told you this day was coming Spike Eskin I told you this day was coming sixers fans yet. He didn't WANNA. Believe me. It was here early to because we can all see the problem but no, you held out hope and you wanted to wait for the play offs and it came and went and got four gates. That's all you got terrible losers out of my life. Allow me to be clunky for second ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance today's for doing today we celebrate soccer UEFA champions. League. Final yesterday, and Byron. Munich. Are The champions of Europe for the sixth time as they defeated, Paris Saint Germain one nil kingsley comet who graduated from PS Youth Academy. Got a championship winning goal in the fifty ninth minute sweeping through all. The champions, league. Yesterday's victory completed a treble of trophies for Byron Munich as they also won the Boondocks League and the German Cup this season as for doing it's brought to you by the Home Depot with everything you need to do projects smarter faster and easier welcomed today's home depot do get more done I'm really glad we removed clunky by having you back here. For? That's God's his fault or corporate this. This entire power has been nothing but sales like it's just the burden, the crucifix of sales not being creative during this time, and then stuffing three hours worth of breeds into two hours was that our fault it's just a minute. We missed IT SEIG I know. But no. I don't think corporates writing anything about their Munich's trouble. We probably added something there There's just way too much in the show don't go to falls in the way of the show. Tony. Why can't I go to polls now because those are corporate sponsored as well. Toting I mean stop sales. Let us do the show. That's not really our. Radio works we can't have the sale stop. They don't need to stop slowdown, quit stuffing stuff in our face like let us do the damn show Arlington. Thank you so much for all of your support. We know that we're difficult show to support by this very segment being an example Tony what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? Layoff people Georgia after a three for fourteen shooting from the field from nine points. He said something. I would also say to my pro am basketball team to be honest in hindsight if I shoot the ball better, this series would be a lot different than. Up He had a rough go of it yesterday I'm assuming he's injured like there haven't been three straight games from a guy who shoots more than ten shots where a guy shooting twenty, five percent or less since Bob cousy. Like he's put together three straight games of Nago cousy overrated. Chris what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? Just. Pat McAfee being graded everything he does refreshing it wrestling. About Roy was the funniest thing from the sports weekend, rory mcilroy miss hit a chip shot in the ball went backwards until water has it. Over but it on the poll, Lebatardshow have you ever hit a chip shot backward into a water hazard Have you Who else has got funniest thing nominees billy. EJ calendar and fat Joe Played Each Other one on one basketball Dan and let's just say they were not the best. have. Been So. Bad. Oh my God. This scene in along came polly. No. They can't be graceful out there at this age and shape now. Turns out Dan something can stop fat Joe because he did not get all the way up. More the name. because. That's three good ones. I'm going to go ahead and assume you're out of material you have another. Getting there on my one might say, does he have another one? act. I need up like that things. Out of here, get out of your go straight with a hurricane walked straight out straight out just walk straight out your door and go straight in one of those top tropical depressions think dinghy out into one of those tropical depressions and I don't care if you ever come back. My funniest thing of the sports weekend is your Father Chris Cody. tweeting Audi. Photo of him and his wife on her birthday with a sweet message about the caption saying the photo was on their wedding day. But his wife had to point out to him that she's clearly not wearing a wedding dress in the photo because the photo was years before they got married but. Because he's the narcissist in the photo, Greg is wearing a Tuxedo. So he looks at it was clearly not his wedding day I just assumed it was their wedding day. He's Yes. Well, I'm wearing toxin who cares about the bride I wish I could have married myself the greg cody show featuring Greg. Cody. A he he is the most he is a total distortion of what Narcissism and entitlement become when you just keep giving it rewards for just a sustained and relentless mediocrity. Tomorrow's Day. I love him. You would while ripping Ben Simmons because you you would love. Greg. Cody. Another one who gets a lot of. Money in praise showered with applause because he gets next gets to sit next strident noxious me who's always the bleep home. Yeah that is tomorrow on this show cody of the my. Herald.

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7-9-2020 Sports Talk

Lance McAlister

1:38:33 hr | 4 months ago

7-9-2020 Sports Talk

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Dot Com Now sports talk on seven hundred. WWL W. Let's get it six ten seven hundred. WWL. W This is. Sports on presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm mcallister eight. Thanks for making your way here. settled out. Hang out for a while. You made it this far into your day. Relax its talks sports between now and nine o'clock, and then gamble and Finn Let's do the headlines. We'll go start with racing. Update brought to you by service electric in a adore action starts. Tonight at Kentucky speedway with. BACK-TO-BACK EXP- finnity series races. It's The shady raise. Two hundred at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty reds update the reds. Twenty twenty season begins two weeks from tomorrow, but they're twenty. Twenty. One schedule came out today opening day set for April first of next year, great American ballpark versus the Saint. Louis Cardinals reds playing a scrimmage at this moment, just getting underway at. At great American Ballpark, four and a half innings on the docket Sunny Gray pitch through the first half of the top of the first inning Nixon. Zell has homered moments ago versus Michael Lorenzen in Gulf for the first time in five months. Tiger Woods is returned to the PGA tour, and his return will be in Ohio. Woods will play in the. The memorial tournament at Muirfield village starting a week from today, College, Football, Ole boy, the big ten conference has announced a conference only football scheduled for the upcoming season because of Covid Nineteen Cincinnati bearcats. Our guess were set to visit Nebraska from the big ten on September, twenty six couple other notes, and then we'll go NFL season sixty three days from. From opening night question, mark the NFL network said today teams will be forbidden from postgame interactions within six feet of each other and Jersey exchanges between players on the field, afterwards will be prohibited during the season. So I guess you could hit each other for seventy five plays during the game, but you can't ban handed Jersey to your friend after the game. Will be banned from the locker room. What happens to lap and post game after bengals. Games FC Cincinnati continuing to work out in Orlando for the MLS is back tournament. They'll kick off group play Saturday night ten, thirty vs Columbus a second team has withdrawn from the tournament earlier this week. It was Dallas after ten players and a coach tested positive today. Nashville has withdrawn after nine players tested positive for everything else. You've missed do this. Good my blog, you'll find. Find It. At seven hundred wwl W dot com blog is a service of me, presented each and every day. I got reds I've Bengals I have the complete twenty twenty one schedule for your Cincinnati reds. It's in one spot waiting for you. Seven hundred w dot com, so it hit this afternoon. The rumors were kind of circulating than it hit and I kick in the Shin Glass of water the face dose of reality. A. Reality check. Not, gamble and Finn, but a reality. Check in the college football world today. I wonder how much of it is a blow to your optimism. It's almost like does like sports right now feels like a giant Jenga Europe play Jenga like a giant Jingle Tower, and there's a peaceful. The being pulled out and the tower, which would be sports in this metaphor is wobbling and shaking and looks I could topple at any second. Does it not feel like sports as a whole is struggling to keep it together right now, and this is someone who I missed her happy I missed her optimism one who has been going day to day thinking four months of this, but there is an end in sight, sports or on the way and I would ask you tonight two simple questions. Are, we just kidding ourselves at this point. How are you feeling about games? Actually being played in Major League Baseball, the NFL college football I mean the news today get ready. The Big Ten announced I that they're only going to play conference games. All their non conference games scrapped won't play them. They're not going to stand alone. The SEC's GonNa followed the ACC GONNA. Follow them the PAC twelve gonNA follow the big twelve is gonNA fall. Everybody's going to get any lied and there will be no non conference. College Football Games this year. Now thinking that what that means on many different levels, Gene Smith the athletic director at Ohio State. The Ohio State University said about an hour ago on a conference call. He is no longer cautiously optimistic about a college football season saying I'm quote I'm very concerned. So you see won't play Austin. Western Michigan Miami Nebraska Ohio State won't play Bowling Green they won't travel to Oregon and play. They won't play Buffalo think about. Kentucky won't play Louisville and think of what that means for the smaller schools, the the group of five schools that relied on the money from the by Games. According to the documents, bowling green was to open the season in Columbus Against Ohio state. That's a one point. Two million dollar payday for Bowling Green think of what that money means to their athletic department for the university. That money's now gone now. None of the by Games will exist. None of the small schools go into big schools and getting checks. The take home is going to happen now. What happens is many are asking if there's no non conference games, what happens to Notre Dame? And that's against the backdrop of what I just said. We're talking about. Over the last forty eight hours, two teams in the have withdrawn from their tournament because of the number of positive test, one team had ten players and a coach. One team had nine players. They've withdrawal in the middle of the tournament after going through the bubble that the protected bubble of go there. Keep everybody together. Make it easier in two teams. were now out the Ivy. League has said they will not play false sports Stanford yesterday dropped eleven. Sports of the ACC has said today they will not begin to consider play fall sports until at least September the first at least September the first. And the big ten drops the first domino in college football by saying. We are scrapping our non conference games. Let me do this. Let me open up the lines. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred on at and T.. Married two questions one. Are we kidding ourselves at this point in into? How are you feeling based on today's news about actual games coming for Major League Baseball, the NFL College, football and others. We'll get into that and more as we continue. Darnall carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. Six twenty four seven hundred wwl w with jarnail carriers, sports dot, presented by Kelsey Chevrolet with a big ten said we're out. No Conference no non conference games role. GonNa Play Conference Football Games. We'll get into the ramifications of that in a second, but it feels like all sports are. They tried to put something together and now they're trying to hold something together. Together and make no mistake about it. It is a Herculean task. The NBA is trying it from a bubble. MLS, trying it from a bubble. They're on lockdown. Their Major League baseball is trying it in each individual team cities. The players go from their home to the ballpark. Maybe they go to the grocery store, and then they'll get on a plane. They'll fly. Fly to another city, they'll go play in another stadium. They'll stay in other hotels. They'll get back on a plane to fly back home. Think the margin of error it certainly on the minds of the players, I read a fantastic piece ESPN dot com today titled Discipline in a pandemic might be the ultimate competitive advantage in this line jumped out to me to. To in particular, the fate of this season will hinge on the countless choices made by hundreds of people in dozens of locations on an everyday baseball, everyday basis around Major League baseball it will come down to discipline and accountability, and how about this line as one veteran infielder said the team that has the fewest positive cases is going to win the world series. End Quote. And ESPN points out in a sixty game season littered with unconventionality. During which any team regardless of payroll and talent can go on a run and win at all the only true competitive advantage might lie one's ability to feel the most complete roster possible meaning the healthiest that is clearly on the minds of the reds players because each player this week for the most part, each player that has done the zoom conference call has talked about accountability discipline. And responsibility at this point, here's Mike. Mustafa's on being a veteran and being in that role. As an older guy on this team, a veteran guy I mean it's something that I kinda taken seriously especially being in California and the way things happened out there. I'm taking it very seriously as well as other people on the scene, but the thing is. We're not trying to make people do anything. They don't feel comfortable doing. And I think that's a that's a good thing about this organization in this team, is that we're not forcing anything upon people, but we're making it clear that we need to wash your hands sanitized where matching clubhouse in. I've if things if someone's uncomfortable, let's just make everybody happy. Let's just put a mask on. If we need electric, make everything. Run as smoothly as possible, so we can get to this baseball season. Reds Second Baseman Mike Mustafa's how `bout. Another veteran Trevor Bauer on the same thing. Take a listen. I mean whatever we gotta do to play I wanNA play some guys. Feel differently. Some guys don't like some guys like it. Some guys are more scared. Some guys scared of it. Obviously sending circumstances with family and at risk, and all the things that are going on. I'm personally not not worried about it but for the for the sake of everybody else around and out of respect for not only the people in our clubhouse, but everybody would play against and. All their family and close relatives in all that I'm good with whatever they have us to. Whatever we can do to keep baseball in the field and get through the whole season. I think that's the most important thing at this point. I shouldn't say the most important thing. Obviously, health of everybody is the most important thing, but for the game itself like we. We need to get through the season. Sorry, Trevor, which team which teams? Can stay the most. The most healthy, the most capable of playing at this point. Follow that the discipline the accountability Clayton Kershaw, told ESPN. I can just go home in to the ballpark and feel great about it, but it's going to be harder for guys that are single Lebanon apartments and things like that. He said I understand that, but if you want to get things off the ground if you WanNa play, that's as good an incentive as any to do the right thing. ESPN rights baseball can often feel like an encapsulation of America, and it's no different amid pandemic Arizona shortstop Nick Ahmed said you just can't hide in your house and hibernate your whole life. While Mike Trout and Buster Posey have expressed serious trepidation about play in this line. In the realm in that realm allies, the concept of wearing a mask that is morphed into a charged political issue, teams are hoping their players will simply get competitive with the idea of following the strict protocols that will help prevent an outbreak, if not for the betterment of public health, if not for Co, workers who might be at higher risk if not for a real economy that can't fully recover until cases flatten then do it because it might be the reason your team wins the world series. And Chris Davis the Orioles said if you happen to get the virus, and you've done everything the right way. That's one thing, but if you're doing things that you shouldn't be doing, and you get sick, then you're going to have to answer to a clubhouse full of your teammates. That line from veteran infielder. The team that has the fewest positive cases is going to win the world series while. It is six thirty Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. Six, thirty, seven seven hundred wwl W, this would be Arnelle carrier sports dog presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Big Race Week in Sparta Kentucky speedway. Five races count them five starting tonight. And Sunday afternoons quaker state four hundred presented by Walmart the tenth running of that. Race coverage of course on ESPN fifteen thirty, for more on all of that. Welcome in Kentucky speedway General Manager Merck some anger mark. I was thinking about this today. We talked about a month ago and NASCAR. Just giving you a fourth race and I remember you saying to me. Heck, we'll take all the races. They WANNA. Give us. They've given you another one. Now. You got five raises. Can. You believe that we've got five races and we're not allowed to share it with our fans so every. That's heartbreaking. It's the biggest race weekend we've ever had here. and we're going to have to do it. virtually and awfully ever be able to watch. The one good thing is all five races are on the same network on TV on Fox sports. One so all you gotTa do is just set your TV one time you might not even turn it off. Just leave it on all weekend long, and you'll be able to catch us at some point other. For those in maybe the instant reaction would be bill is all man, no fans, but for you guys. At least I mean that exposure. You just laid out TV radio media that Kentucky speedway on the crawl at the bottom. That's still got to be huge for you guys. Yeah, it's great for us. It's also really good for our sponsors to be honest with you at one of the things that we think about is. Okay if we can't deliver value to our sponsors, haven't fans here live on race day. How can how else can we do it and so came up with a whole whole list of virtual experiences that we can have so go on Kentucky speedway? Dot Com and you can get the program downloaded. We do the exact same gram created it. It's digital. You can have it for free just go. Kentucky speedway dot comedy disparage that we've got the fans zone We're showing the or parade on facebook live. We're also doing a virtual happy hour on Race Day two o'clock on also on our. Our facebook page on facebook live again, so all of those kind of things. A Pre race show is on NASCAR DOT com also so all those things to keep the fans engage, but also to provide that value for our sponsors, and and there's no no value for sponsors like being on national TV. Five Times mark. What is giving me? The cliff notes version of what is preparation like in getting the trip. Obviously, you're not getting ready for the fans, but you gotta get it ready and have it safe for the drivers. The knows there. What's that preparation for getting the track and everything around it ready? well tracked. We still have to prepare the track you know. We put a attraction compound on the track called PJ one, in the turns. And, then we also grind tires into that gets a much of rubber on there, because there's no one of the things about this lance, no practice no qualifying for any of the series. We have one hour of Arca practice, but none of the other turn none of the other series practice at all, so we don't get that chance to put the rubber in the race track, and we have it because of covid. We haven't had the amount of driving schools and other activity on the track of normally at. So ground! We did all that so track preparation-wise. We did that very similar to what we did last year because we had so much success with it last year, and you might remember. Last year's race was unbelievably good. and then as far as what we do outside the race track, we just set it up for all the protocols. The safety protocols and things that that NASCAR calls for so we have a drive through screen lanes, so you can't once you get here to get into what we would consider the parameters you have to go through screening. We have eight lanes of traffic so that you don't get out of your car. Your screamed. They should your temperature. They ask you questions and that's the only way to an end. You have to already out questionnaires at your. Have Your name. There's you can't just show up and make it through. Your name has to be on a preapproved list. So it's very tight. So we set it up for those kind of things and then and then other than that. It's just massive cleaning we. We have people that are here in in. Big Time P.. p. e., they looked like space suits, and they have sprayers white, wiping down everything going through the entire garage area. This is a group that travels with NASCAR so. You know NASCAR wants to say stay. Self contained and they want. They want everybody to stay away from everybody else to the extent that that you can so. That, that's one of the things that people asked me. What does it feel strange? I said it's feels very strange because I literally literally any other race week, I would be down. Talking to those guys welcoming, welcoming them back, you know, see driver seeing some NASCAR officials all that. They don't want me near any of those guys, so I stay in my space. They stay in their at everybody puts the show on, and then we go the Sunday raised quaker state four hundred is Sunday to thirty I see a high of about eighty-five projected. What does that do for that race? What does it do for the track running back versus what you would do at night? Yeah, I think twenty thirteen. We had one day race because we had rained out the Michael before That was a race. Matt Kenseth ended up winning. Ironically Enough Matt candidates just got a ride back and NASCAR when Kyle Larson lost his ride. For Chicken ask. The and and tens of came had his best finish last week second up Indianapolis, so he's. He's actually a pretty big threat. The only got ever win in the daytime here before so it should be, it should be hot, and it should be slicker, less attraction, and the drivers. Actually they like to go on not hot slick race track, so they'll they'll be. They really enjoy it. And the thing that's going to be really interesting. We just did A. They do a random draw for qualifying because nobody practice no qualifying. On the front row we've got Kyle Busch on the inside. Joey Logano on the outside. What do you think that's GonNa? Look like going into the first turn with no practice, no qualify. Oh Man is right. Because those two on rivals if you remember they were, they were on the front row for the restart last year. Over time. Yes, they don't. They don't let me just say this. Track they don't call each other for their kiss birthday. Exactly exactly so that should be beautiful, you know. I was I was perusing Kentucky speedway, dot. COM Yesterday and I noticed tomorrow July tenth. Nine Hundred Ninety eight tomorrow is the anniversary of the groundbreaking for Jerry. Carroll on the guys back in Ninety Eight There's GonNa. Be a book written about that. Attract some day, and this is going to be a very interesting chapter in that book wanted. Oh, yeah, sure well, you know we were. We were kind of just talking about. Me and some of the other employees like can you believe this is our tenth year for the Cup series? Ten years ago, we had so many people down here. We, we didn't know where they were all coming from Josh tap coming. It was almost like they were being dropped out of the sky. And now we've gone full circle to where we are going to. We're going to run a race and we're not gonNA, have anybody in this stay on I mean. I guess that just shows you. If you stick around long, enough, Lance, you'll see everything their you know. final. Thought I'm looking at the window here. It doesn't look bad. How's the weather looking tonight in Sparta? sippy beautiful we had. We had a little Some lightning never got any rain, but to set some dark clouds lightning earlier but I think it's all roll through, and we should be absolutely perfect for racing tonight. Sounds good should be big five races at The big tracking Sparta always good catching up with you. Thank you. Thank Lansbury take your. General, Manager Kentucky speedway and again I. I was perusing that virtual race program yesterday online. That's actually a really cool thing. Kentucky speedway DOT, com you get all your information on the racing to get a ticket refund information, but check out the virtual race program, which you just kind of slide with your your mouse, and it flips from one page to the next as if you had a program. Were we're at? At the race, aren't we come back? We left off with what has transpired today in college football. What it means in the bigger picture at least the sense of how unstable all of this seems to be from a sports standpoint the piece on ESPN quoting a veteran infielder, saying that team that has the fewest positive cases going to win the world series and the discipline that is being required and. Everybody kind of rowing in the same direction so to speak whether you're a young guy who wants to get out and enjoy the nightlife or the older guy who's got kids in going home. Just think of all the variables for the major league teams. Counter to what the NBA and MLS are experiencing inside a bubble, and yet even in the bubble to teams have already withdrawn because of their positive test, a couple of more reds with perspective on what it's GonNa take to to keep this thing rolling as we continue our L.. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. F. Down the stretch news time eight minutes eight minutes Al Carriers Port Stockbridge by. The early the news today, the big ten, announcing able not play non, conference games only conference games now the other conferences expected to fall in line behind that in the growing sense that these sports have put something in place now. They're trying to hold it all together right now as it seems to be in various degrees wobbling shaky right now. I mentioned the peace and Espn today about discipline in pandemic. Pandemic might be the ultimate competitive. Advantage for Major League Baseball Teams in which teams can stay healthy. It is certainly on the minds of the reds players in terms of the discipline and the accountability and the responsibility, not just not himselves, but to other teammates in the coaches to keep everyone healthy. Tucker Barnhart on that very issue. Take a listen. That's one of the things that's been the most nerve wracking. Just personally. I'm not worried about me like I'm GonNa and I'm not I'm not necessarily worried about our guys either I'm I'm worried about like just the other teams and stuff like that it just there's so many variables and things you can't control. That could very much effect, not only our team, but our industry as a whole, we have to absolutely take every precaution necessary. Maybe even go overkill at times away from the field, and it's the littlest things I mean. You've gotta go the Grocery Story. If you have medication, you gotTA. Go pick up your medicine at the pharmacy or anything. Anything like that. You just have to be very diligent and the way you go about things and I think it's paramount that people wear mass I think it's paramount that people use hand sanitizer, and just like I said go overboard at times. Tucker Bernhardt the thin margin of error the Atlanta. Braves good team, best player tested positive, not playing right now. The dodgers have seven players who have not been able to work out yet. One report last night indicated the dodgers were so short for their inner squad. At one point, a clubhouse attendant was playing left field last night. Some have opted out. Some have tested positive. Were two weeks and a day away baseball starting. We know this week to soccer teams withdrawing from their tournament because the numbers got so high, they said with with ten of our guys. Coach positive were out. Another one today said we have nine that have tested positive were out. What is that number ultimately for four other teams now the question has been asked today. Fair question. What is the big ten hope to do by doing what they did? They cancelled their non conference games. They'll play conference games right now. Nine Big Ten Conference Games Ohio State won't play Bowling Green. They won't go to Oregon. They won't play Buffalo. They will play. What records Iowa Michigan. State Penn. state. Nebraska IU Maryland Illinois Michigan on the question would be what what's the difference it's. It's not like the conference. Teams are Kobe. Free or those cities are open free. So what's the difference saying? We're not GONNA play. Non. Conference Games, but we are going to play conference games. It allows the cut for lacking a better explanation. It allows the conference to circle the wagons as one keep in mind. There is no Grand Poobah. There's no big guy in charge of college football. You're basically on your own so by the big ten saying today in everybody else. He's going to say within the next couple of days. The big ten says all right all the outsiders out. We're not gonNA. Play them. Let's circle the wagons here and we can control our situation as we seem fit. Our regulations our rules. Let me. Give you an extreme. If a school in the big ten were to be hit so hard, they wouldn't be able to play. then. You're able as a conference to kind of redirect your scheduling. Adjust your scheduling and say all right look. PICK ONE FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE MARYLAND MARYLAND's out. They were hit or adjusting our schedule and we'll go from there. We'll play with those that remain healthy enough to play. It also allows you buy say Ohio state wiping out, Bowling Green Oregon and Buffalo. That's three weeks. You don't just wipe off the schedule. It's three weeks you open up your schedule to play with. If something happens inside of your conference in and around an opponent, you're supposed to play where that teams not able to play. You've got three free weeks maybe to shift something. Later earlier move somebody in. It's all part of the the kind of the building blocks right now that the the big ten is going through multiple reports today say that the other power five conferences are very pleased with the big ten. Because there was the hope they'd all be on the same page and speak with one voice. The big ten is gone out and done this I. and some of the other conferences, according to reports are feeling a bit of the urgency pressure of well. What are you guys doing next and everybody I think ultimately has to fall in line, and I would think by over the next couple of days. Days every conference will issue the same statement and say we're not playing non conference games, and then on a much larger scale. Then who do you have? How do you determine your national champion? How do you determine anything else beyond just playing your conference games? And if you're Notre Dame right now? Notre Dame has no confidence yet. They're tied of the ACC in every in every sport except football basically, but Notre Dame plays six. ACC teams this year, so while Notre. Dame Loses Wisconsin Arkansas. Stanford USC Western Michigan Navy off their schedule. They still have Clemson Louisville Georgia. Tech Duke and wake from the ACC which they have conference ties to. Then do they go out fishing for independence? Do they say Hey Yukon? Let's play. Hey, New Mexico state. Hey, liberty! Hey, you, mass WE WE WE! We have openings play as an independent will. Let's ask you to the docket. Go back to the phones and Jim. You're on seven hundred WWL, W. Why have you got me fired up now? Now you live in Interesting Sports Times did he sure yes? Okay, College football. Big, ten or any other conference fifth. Makes plans to only play conference games I. Hope they don't say it's in the name of safety because it's not. They went to preserve their in conference. Big Time television contracts. It was about safety. They would not go out of their. They were not leaving. Go long distances to play another team in their conference in some cases and not play. smaller teams in smaller conferences for instance. What you're saying Jim but understand what I said when you do. Is You control your own conference right now? Nobody has control over anything. Correct. And I can understand why. Some of the other teams are upset with them. I just took. Everybody realizes it's about the big money on TV understand. There's always a chance for players younger players. Who have somewhat of a more of a social life right how the professional players to catch penalty it. But if they're going to knock out the little guys and the other smaller conference is independence. One of those places are close bowling green only struck down seventy five about an hour. Drive over to go I. Get in Jim Thank. Thank you for the call again. I'm going to go back to what I said. They have no control of what bowling green does. They have no control over regulations protocols testing for for bowling. Green and what they're going to be up against if they bring bowling green in the big ten. Ten by circling their wagons specifically, and only can say look. Nobody seems to be in charge here on a grand scale were now controlling what we do as our conference so therefore were only playing other teams that are following our guidelines I get certainly, there's a there's the element of following the money, no doubt about it, but it makes it easier to enact whatever you want to enact when you're only telling your own. Schools? You're going to do it up. Next last night's theme of old school versus new school revealed many of you. Had want to say this that many of you see more down on sports and athletes than ever before. Why Question One and two? What can be done to fix that? Is We continue our carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet seven hundred W W. The following takes place between seven PM and eight PM. Let's keep. What do you say? Seven oh nine seven hundred wwl wbz sarin carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC DOT COM and Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the art collision. Repair Center just around the Corner Update Great American Ballpark reds going through a four and a half inning. Inner Squad scrimmage John, Fay tweeting that Michael Lorenzen not pleased with his out, and gave up six runs in two and two thirds innings a homerun Nixon Zelda the upper deck after giving up an RBI double kyle farmer. And after. Giving up the former Lorenzen turned and threw the ball towards the seats in Centerfield in frustration. Did Not make it over the wall. Sunny Grey also touched up for a home run by Jesse winker who. By accounts kind of mocked him. As he rounded the basis, he got past second base and kind of did the the sideways walk returned his upper body to face with his arms out. Sunny greatest say something to him. I would assume the form of trash talk that going on right now at the great American ballpark all right last night was. Of all the things we talked about last night, the thing that struck me most. Was Our conversation about old school versus new school. And how you view yourself as a sports fan, the things you like versus don't like the things you miss versus don't Miss in the one pattern the biggest takeaway from all that the more I thought about it was this in I can only ask you for confirmation or denial of this when I opened up the phones, but the sense. I got last night in hearing what you said about how you view sports today. It seems like you are more down on sports and more down on athletes. Then you've ever been before. Sure false. I certainly get the frustration of the times, and there's no sports going on and I. I am NFC since is GonNa play Saturday I get that, but in terms of. Most of the sports in this country are not happy. I get everybody's frustrated about everything. But I was struck by the pattern, and what was revealed last night through your calls through. facebook through e mail. I'm looking at some of them. I jotted down. Here's some one cities old school. I missed the idea of the humble athlete. Another poster last night I consider myself done with professional sports, too many overpaid babies thinking that everyone wants to hear their opinions. Here's another. I'm old school to the point I'm done watching sports. Another one I miss players playing for the love of the game, and not for the love of the money one more. I'm not a fan of the showmanship and overly colorful personalities that exist in pro sports. What is it? What one is it true, are you? Are you more down on sports and down on athletes? Then you have been in the past in what is it? Is it simply the frustration of not having the sports is in some players having the ability in the money in the bank to opt out, is it? The player complaints about testing is that the the protracted negotiates him between the players and owners and Major League Baseball. Is it some athletes now? Voicing lending their voice to protest is that you don't think they're humble enough. I'm I'm curious. Of the common thread in all of that. And I get in a perfect world you would. You'd like to have a relate ability to athletes. You'd like to have a connection to athletes. Of and yet there is a genuine I think resentment, a growing resentment. If not a growing jealousy for professional athletes. That coupled with the perception of changing the rules in doing this and doing that and not wanting to leave. It alone is rolled into the ball. Love your frustration with sports and athletes as a whole. What I find! Curious. Is that being applied to professional athletes. What were some of the words that we read in the statements? I got last night I. Miss The idea of the humble athlete. Overpaid Babies I saw. I Miss Playing for the love of the game, not for the love of the money. Not a fan of the showmanship. And colorful personalities. Do, do those words apply? Do those does that criteria? Do you apply that to. Other forms of entertainment. To two movies or musicians to. Chris, Hemsworth or J., Jillette Hall or or Ryan Reynolds or Ryan Gosling Rachel McAdams. Does that apply to? Harry Styles Lizzo Billy eyelash. Or is it specifically the athlete and if that's the case why? Because the fact is in two thousand and twenty professional athletes are never going to be relatable to you from the standpoint of salary is just not going to happen. But I get a sense. You feel disconnected. That you are for lack of a better word on their pay. No mind. List True or false? Let's let's work on that a little bit because there's a couple of different things in play here. Based on our old school new school last night clearly. The majority we heard from. Don't like all the changes. They like sports the way they used to be. Why can't we just go back to the way it used to be? And clearly part of this equation is the disconnect. You feel with athletes today. So let's explore five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred on at and T. how? Let's go here and Jason, you're on seven hundred WWL W. Doing well, thanks for calling. Wrong, time listener first-time caller. Hey, excellent, thank you. Know I don't want to really speak to like actors and actresses because. I've never been able to relate to them ever. But, I guess when it comes to sports. And I don't I'm not speaking for everybody but. I just really feel like. A lot of us out here really feel like shut up and play ball and that might sound harsh. That might sound real. WE JUST WANNA WATCH FOR CLEVELAND. Watch sports in early March. I don't i. don't Care What your opinion is on this Saturday the other I just I. WanNa Watch you play ball. That's why I take my wife and daughter to great American Ballpark I dropped one hundred twenty bucks. For Walk you played all that so hard. So. Would you understand on the other side? If the athletes said so, then you just view us as an object to entertain you. That sounds really harsh land. But. I think the professional athlete is a whole would say. Why aren't you looking at me like a human? Just like you? Who has opinions about things? Why are you looking at me as someone who just has to perform for you? because. Well, this is my rebuttal to that. No one comes to my job and pays. Quite a bit of money. I'm a middle class. Come, and so is my life. No one comes to my job watching me perform. That's that's the life you shows that's that's what you do for a living. And you get paid very handsomely for it just. Just play ball. Pres All we want, that's an. I am speaking I promise you. I'm speaking for greater than seventy percent of people listening right now. Hey, Jason, one. It's really cool. You listen to the show to. It's even cooler. You picked up the phone and call for the first time. Don't make your last time all right I won't. Take my thank you all right. How about that for a start? Things? All Right? Let's go Michael Justin Bruce Randy and others will add to this conversation. It started last night with a discussion of old school and new school and overwhelming old school. I want things the way they used to be, and there was so much of an underlying theme of all that of just being fed up with with athletes. Leading Me To my conclusion is I got home last night. Man, my audience, sports fans seem more down on sports in more down on athletes than any other time I can recall. So, what can we do about that? As we continue sportstalk seven hundred WWL W? Seven twenty four seven hundred wwl wrol carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I think Rhonda something here I. Think I'm GonNa like where this is gone now? Thanks for all the tweets I'm on twitter. mcallister be a part of the show that way. Thanks to Burley. Corns for presenting the twitter feed three locations in northern Kentucky Barley Corns. Get over here coming up in the eight o'clock hour, if a golfer if you're a fan of golf, I'm going to request your help I. Don't often do Gulf topics. I couldn't tell you the last time I did one that wasn't centered on woods. I'M GONNA. Dare to do that at eight Oh five. And if you're a golf fan or a casual observer of the game, I would love your input on what to make of a particular situation in Gulf of, but right now we're working on just the spinoff of last night. Night show and declaration by by you of or the more old school or new school, and what came out of that last night? A sense of things the way they used to be a sense of being so down on athletes today. I had a couple of people. Tell me last night I'm done following you I. Don't like sports anymore. I've been turned off by everything that has taken place over the last four months and I thought all right I. Need to address this a little bit more a little bit deeper because I think the centers with the Athlete I. Don't want put words in your mouth that you. You believe that that athletes have lost sight have. have. They lack of awareness of what it should be about. I've never been one that resented the money that professional athletes made. I couldn't hit a curve ball. I couldn't throw a curveball. I couldn't hit it. I couldn't throw it. I didn't become a major leaguer. I don't resent those who played at the highest level and make good money for what they can do. God. Bless him more power to 'em. Kris Bryant. was struck by something. He said earlier this week. Kris Bryant the cubs star is considering opting out of playing this year. He's got a newborn son at home. And he's also going. There's been discussions of an extension with his contract. And, he said that's the last thing on his mind. During such high anxiety moment in society and I love this, he says I love the organization, but there's a lot more a lot more other worries in my life. In the world right now I feel like it's a little insensitive to be talking about big dollars and stuff like that. When people are losing their jobs and losing their life, I've never been the type to be super selfish in. Want the attention on me to sign a contract or whatever I think there's bigger problems right now than talking about a contract extension. I love that that shows an awareness and understanding of circumstances and situations. Back to the phones. Madeira. We Go Justin Welcome to sports talk. Hey Don, I'm well, thanks listener. Hey, welcome listener, and you really care any time I've called. Is it less than ten? Barely left. Welcome. Thank, you well I. Think the thing with elite me. Where I leave, athletes is whenever you turn on sports whether it be the end, or you're an athlete talked. They always have to give their political opinions, and that's not why at least I watch sports. I kind of quoted favorite. Performer is Bruce springsteen per day I, I spent lots of money going to concerts. And every time you go, and I'm not saying I'm on one side or the other. That's not for the show. But, he only got to start getting political. Well I didn't come there and spend a hundred and something dollars. Your of your political opinion I came here to. You. Know See you perform I think that's where maybe some of these athletes that are speaking out I. Mean I know they have platform they feel. They need to. Speak Out, but I think that loses a lot of people to you. Know I hear that a lot justice. I would I would answer. I'm trying to think of the rebuttal. Let let me give you this as the rebuttal to the athletes. Wha, what would you who would prefer? How do I WANNA? Say to WHO would you prefer? Deliver the message if something is out there that somebody is motivated by the feelies, whatever the injustice or whatever fill in the blank, who then should be able to deliver the message I think what? Has About. Right I understand what you're saying. I don't think it's about permission I mean, but I think if I want a political opinion or the new or something like that I kinda just want to. You know any of the news networks. Twenty four hour network yet. Just and I want to put words in your mouth, but I'm guessing you are tuning into this show to hear my thoughts on sports, not to hear my thoughts on politics, no doubt about. It doesn't. Take you're you're allowed to say that I think I'M GONNA have to dump him? He was around a little bit What was it two and two thirds innings I think six runs when it was all said and done all right, let's do this will hit the bottom of the hour. 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Check Oh if I could make one recommendation on TV show. Record this if you get a chance? Sixty the latest e sixty on ESPN and don't watch much ESPN I stumbled into this I got home last night and I told Kelly you have to watch this. It's called a hero of Goodall Park. Goodall Park One hundred year baseball hundred year old baseball stadium in Maine for Little League historic stadium. Two years ago. A woman. Suffering, a psychotic break drove her car through the gates of the stadium onto the field, and around the field with a little league game going on. A gentleman in his sixties climbed out of the stands and tried to get kids out of the way and. Draw attention to himself to get the driver in his direction a long story short. She him over killed in. That story. That death exposed a fifty year secret. That impacted three different families. and. I'm here to tell you. It will be an award-winning sixty minutes of TV by e sixty. The way it is written, the way it is presented is phenomenal. I am telling you. You will not be disappointed. Look for it VCR it hero of Goodall. Perk the latest edition of ESPN's It's their magazine. Show e sixty I was. I was walking yesterday morning and listened to the podcast of it thirty minute podcast and I got chills. And I recorded the TV presentation of it last night, which is sixty minutes and I'm I. I don't recall watching a TV. Show for sixty minutes were my jaw dropped his many times in one sixty minute period, as it did watching hero of Goodall Park and the impact on lives, and where this story went it trust me. Phenomenal. Back to the phones here in a second. Oh, I know what I m I wrote about this today on blog. At seven hundred wwl W dot com I was talking with my good friend David Caplan of am one thousand in Chicago. And we were. We were kind of comparing notes on getting creative with topics in a time without sports. He does a midday show on am one thousand. Chicago and he joked he could mention bears quarterback Mitch. Trubisky and the phone with light up twenty, four, seven, three, sixty five in Chicago. It's one of those topics and he asked me what what? What are those topics in Cincinnati says what are they? The twenty four seven three sixty five topics year round around the clock always. are a point of discussion. And I told him one. There's no question that Pete. Rose and hall of fame, debate is the single most discussed topic on Sports Talk Radio, in Cincinnati, over the past while I've been back for twenty two years over twenty two years. It is the single most often talked about discussion topic in Cincinnati Sports Talk Radio. Pete Rosa Hall of fame. And then I started thinking and I decided to write about it today. The other most debated sports, topics or figures over the last say thirty years here. The ones that you have called in most often about. That would include Pete's banishment. It would include Mike Brown his ownership and. The GM status for the franchise. Would include Joey. VOTTO 's well. There's a double shot with joy. Joy photos contract. And Joey avodados approach at the play. The BENGALS THIRTY PLUS YEAR playoff drought. Marvin Lewis Playoff record. King Griffey junior time in Cincinnati. There's a triple shot of a huggins topics. The second round exits in the NC Double A. Tournament. The end slash firing and Nancy's infor Ashley. There's four. UC's graduation rates and the misrepresentation of the graduation rates and slash player off court issues when they were bearcats under huggins. Those would be like the the Holy Grail of the twenty four seven three sixty five sports talk radio topics in this city over the last. Thirty years. If you're good, include huggins. Put The homer Bailey contract. All Man I came on the air one night. You know what I should just take this list and like every night until baseball comes back, just roll out one of these topics to prove my point like. Tomorrow night at eight O six. Six eight. So, what do you think about homer? Bailey in his contract when he was here ooh! Adam Dunn would be a good one Adam. Dunn Years Go. Let's see. Who Dusty Baker's tenure as reds manager, phone lines are open. and. To a lesser extent billy. Hamilton was kind of way from the bunting on base percentage not getting on enough if he only could. Learn to bunt. If he ever got on base, he'd still one hundred twenty bases. That would be one of those one night. You could say Billy Hamilton. What are you remember that Billy Hamilton Times reds prospect. Go back to the phones. WE GO and Douglas? You're on seven hundred W W. Douglas, yes, is that you? Yes, that's me. Hey, land, I'm well. Thanks for calling. No problem I'm not here. What am my garden? Real Quick Hey. Hey. I heard that topic last night. You know about people complain about athletes. Yes, the old school new school I want things. W will be the way they used to. Yeah. Yeah, Hey, I'm sixty five years old, but I'm you know I'm for change you know. You know it seemed like. He's athlete. If anybody can make this kind of money they make. They wouldn't turn down, so let's start with that I. Will turn it down, but. The. It always confuses me for the people upset about how much the athletes make. Would you rather the money go in the pocket of the owners? Yeah. I mean that's another thing they they don't. They don't complain about the owners, but you know they're making a whole bunch of money. Money. But. You know, but the thing is. Only only time I've seen these absolutely say some political. If if a, if somebody in the press, ask him something about know you know most of the time now. I'm a person where the job I used to have. I want I wanNA. Use My head down to my body. If I'm doing something physical, let me use my brain to go. Don't say I can't use my head now you know, look, look you know you just saying I don't want you to think. That's what the your your physical ability, and that's it I mean. Everybody's a human being. You know so. You know why you do athlete you know. They had good days and bad days. They got families everything just like everybody else. Only thing different. They do what they do. Anybody else. To make money because everybody else making money on it. And Salary get put in the paper all the time. Yes, go Douglas I said last night. If there's one thing, I could change the whole old school new school i. if I had a magic wand, I would say I would make player salaries off limits. Nobody would know how much they make and I think a major problem be cleared up in the perception of athletes. If we didn't know how much money they make because I, don't know how much anybody makes here at this station it. Differently people would view athletes if we didn't attach the dollar side next to them right right I mean I'm quite sure you know they everyday truck driving on one. Salary out there. How much they make exactly right. You don't want your next door. Neighbor. Know How much money you make exhibit. They make more money you do. I wouldn't be mad I don't because I want to make the. Exactly Hey Douglas. I'm glad you called and finish. Watering that lawn and hope you call again all right all right. Dr Never learned I'm sorry. Take care of that guard all right? Thanks, Douglas, all right take. You know it's funny I on twitter Atlanta callister. There was the I. Wish guys would play for the love of the game paraphrasing. What happened playing for the love of? Of the game my greg. Greg Spencer points out playing for money is as old as the game and he's right I mean you can go back. History will tell you that Thai. COBB held out for more fought for more money from the Tigers Babe. Ruth had contract fights with the Boston. Red Sox Ted were with the New York Yankees Ted Williams with the red sox. Don Drysdale and Sandy Colfax held out in spring training one year because they wanted more money, it's. Their job. It's their profession their pay. It's I. Get My. Magic Wand. It would be I know why gets out. Owners like owners like it to be known how much their clients make. Because then they may get more clients if a client who he got him that much money will. Maybe he'll get me that I want him to represent me, so the owners like getting out there. The players in in many cases don't necessarily minded it. You're getting out there. In terms of now the richest contract I. Just I wish there was a magic way, and that is part of the old school because I said the. The first moment money entered the equation for me as a kid when Pete Rose, became a free agent, and he was being wined and dined and the Ted Turner was going to give him things, and and the pirates owner was going to give him a I forget what the pirates are going to give him that Carter's giving horses I mean just the bidding war for Pete and the amount of money. He wound up signing for kid. You're like Oh man, you know. It's like a money. If, we didn't know. How many times does conversation come up about an athlete? And it's based on, or the resentment comes from or the criticism. Performance comes from for that money. That guy ought to be doing. Fill in the blank. And yet it's. Unless I find that magic wand. It's not going back the other way we know, and we define our athletes by Saturday, the the money that I'll never forget when Barry Larkin signed that three or twenty seven million dollar extension when it looked like he was when he turned down, the trade vetoed the trade. What he's going to mets winds up signing the three year twenty, seven, million Barry Larkin from that point forward became. He became identified by people as Contra contract. Barry Larkin three years twenty seven, as he's hurt and he's not worth. The nine million dollars in that always became the conversation starter. I just think it'd be different if we had no idea what they may go back to what I said. With the last caller I have no idea why people get mad at what athletes make when. The alternative is for the owners to put it in their pocket. Why would any sports fan what the older to keep the money in his pocket rather than paying for talent? I've never understood that it is seven fifty one and that was good stuff in this kind of like that I am. I'm a little hesitant, but I'm also intrigued by what could come with our eight o'clock topic because I don't often do this, and this will be explained as we get into the eight o'clock hour. It's carrier sports sock presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred wliw. Man We flew through that our We'll get news in three minutes three minutes, and then we'll roll out our next topic at the eight o'clock hour. I Guy Mike Petri on me for saying VCR IT in reference to hero of Goodall Park. You know what I mean not the Dvr it i. just hit the Orange Button Kelly. Lets me do very little. What the remote controls on the TV's because I get easily confused. All I do is hit. The red! It's orange actually with an audit. What I WANNA. Record all the bar rescues and all the a shark tanks, and when I WANNA record hero of Goodall Park so VCR Dvr vhs all the same for me. On Twitter Here's my point. Stephen Moore on twitter Atlanta. mcallister couldn't call him by but I want a professional athlete to appreciate that they're playing a kids game for great amounts of money. See I'll never. Never understand that way of thinking of. It and I. Don't know why it bugs me so much, but it does it's it's not a. it's a profession. It's a highly specialized skill set. It's something you weren't good enough to do. That shouldn't mean you resent them for being able to do. What is good dude level? They do it and to make the money they do make it is their job. I always said the baseball player plays etc. Disadvantage because everybody played baseball in their backyard in thinks it's a kids game and use your play for the love of the game, because I did in the backyard when I was a kid. There have been some nineteen thousand players in the history of Major League Baseball. Make it to the Major Leagues Nineteen Thousand and Change. It's not a kids game. You have a job I have a job. They have a job. Their job is to be a professional athlete. A highly specialized skill whether you really do accept that or not I. Just don't understand resenting them for. Reaching that level. Now we come back in the eight o'clock hour as I said I couldn't well I. Can I can the last time I did golf topic it was about Jack and tiger and comparing their careers, and I would guess the last time prior to that I did a golf topic was around Tyke. I don't want to do it topic on tiger, looking for a Gulf Fan or casual die heard someone who plays do don't even to play because there's a phenomenon unfolding in the sport. And I've seen the guy described is the most interesting man in Gulf I've also seen him described as the villain. The sport needs. I have a question for you. What do you make? Of Bryson, Shambo Simple, question. If, you're a golf fan, casual observer. You know exactly what I'm talking about because there is a great debate of how he's being viewed and what he is doing to one what he's done to himself and what he's doing to the sport, and what he's doing to courses right now. And I admit as a casual observer. I don't know what to make of it. That'll be next. Arnelle carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred wwl, W. The following takes place between eight PM and nine PM. Right our three unfolding eight seven hundred wwl w Mrs Arndale carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet, I would be lanced. mcallister thanks thanks for making your way here. Hang out for a while gamble and will take over at nine. They'll deliver you. comedy and entertainment hijinks from nine to midnight including on their guest list Dardis, news, five George Vogel News Five and my Guy Joe Speed. I'm going to dare to be different. This may fail miserably. I don't know, but you know what I'll never know unless I try. We don't do a whole lot of golf topics. Just about every Gulf topic I've done now. I interview golfers, my guy Jim. But. Most of the topics I've done have been centered around Tiger Woods. Everybody has thought on Tiger Woods. I am fascinated by this topic because I don't know what to make of this player. That's where you come in. I don't know I. Don't know what you think about him I. Don't know if you know anything about it I. Don't know what my my reach is. Imagine me throwing a fishing line for golfers casual golfers fans. Bryson to Shambo is twenty six years old. And he has turned Gulf upside down. He won this past weekend twenty-three under. I think he has I. Don't know seven or eight top ten consecutive top ten finishes. In the four events since the return from quarantine, he has sixty seven under par combined. This past weekend his average drive was three hundred and fifty yards off the tee. He hit one drive three hundred and sixty seven yards. He's out of SMU turned pro in two thousand sixteen at smu became one of five golfers ever to win. The NCAA tournament and they amador tournament on the same year. During the quarantine. He added. Twenty pounds of Muscle Drinks, a lot of protein shakes I. Think six a day I listened to him the other morning. Any Calorie caloric intake. It's insane. He's now at about six one to forty. What he wanted smu he weighed two hundred pounds. There is a whole lot to this story. I have seen him. And I have every line open, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred on at and T.. I have seen him described in the last week as the most interesting man in Gulf, if not the most interesting man in the world. I've seen him described as the villain that the sport needs. I've seen him. Touted as a mad scientist. I've seen him touted as the Trevor Bauer of the PGA tour. He he wears. He wears the watch thing that does calculations and and everything. He's a big computer guy. He's kind of a mad. Scientists Slash Dork. WHO's really into the numbers in once? Everything broken down. That's happening to. I don't know if he's I don't know if he's a meathead I. Don't know if he's revolutionizing. What I think I read. It was calling my Gumri in the last twenty four hours, said what he's doing to. Golf courses is going to force a change. Something's gotTa give because he's out driving golf courses, not out driving around. He's out driving them off the tee. I mean think of what it does off the tee if you go three fifty in terms of what your next club is by the way. Bryson shambles irons are all the same length. All the same length. And Oh, by the way last week on Saturdays Round on the seventh hole, hit a greenside, but shot poorly. Any angrily through his through his club in the sand. And you know there's no gallery, but there's cameras like right up on you. And the cameraman followed him like shooting all of this as it was unfolding him throwing for lack of a better word, a temper tantrum. And bryce Shambo went after the cameraman in the middle of the round, and took exception to him, following him with the camera, showing his temper Tantrum. His quote was too I think we need to start protecting our players out here compared to showing potentially vulnerability and hurting someone's image. He said he says for that to damage our brand like that. That's not cool in the way we act, because if you actually meet me in person I'm not too bad a dude I don't think. He was mad. The cameraman showed him doing that because he thought it damages his brand. He rubs people the wrong way. He wins. He dominates. He also plays the game at a very slow pace. A maddeningly slow pace. and. Everybody's got an opinion on him. Who did I see? What was it Justin? Thomas Somebody took a shot at him on a on a tweet now I've read so much embracing to Shambo in the last week. I can't keep straight. Who said what about him? But people are taking shots. They're writing stuff about him. Here's my question. Little old me to you. I am specifically targeting. This is a is a narrow slice of the Pie I'm looking for. What do you make of Bryce into Shambo. He's won six times in. His career turned pro in twenty sixteen, but it's as of late. I almost said he's blown up. That would that would play to the body of this. Which people are wondering? Wait a minute is this. Is this real as this? Like? On the? What what do you mean? He added twenty pounds of Muscle Mass during the quarantine. If you looked at him I, mean he is ripped. I mean he would I like he'd break me to. Me and he's almost like off the tees like happy Gilmour, taking a running head, start and just knock the living crap out of a Gopal I. Expect some time this weekend him. They hit a tee shot so hard. The cover comes off in like in the natural with the ball started unwinding I expect to golf to just start unwinding on the way to the green. I don't know if I should not like him I. Don't know if I should be fascinating right now. I'm fascinated, but I. don't know if I'm fascinated like daddy's incredibly cool or fascinated by like what a big colossal jerk! WHO's probably juicing? Because that seems the scale of bookshelves right now, and that's why that's why I'm interested in the topic. He's creating so much motion from people. Let's go to the phones, Mason the first Mike Urine seven hundred WWL W. How you doing land Mike I am well. What do you make a brace into Shambo? Him as a fantastic. The Guy got in the weight room. God bigness driving the crap out. In the member, this Geiger walked around with an army and security people and he's cussing up a storm every time he missed shot. Bryson gets in cameraman's face because they are literally up in your face now and he you know it, it's all about marketing Nike and the PGA The great job editing everything out back in the day. The Tiger are legendary. So you are. You are Kip to Shambo. Absolutely if you go into Weight Room Lance and you put on twenty pounds and you go back to. Get Crazy and football and you put muscle mass to improve your. Plan running back or whatever it is, you do. Why not? And also I I think he just you know he's stretching courses. Look at what Dustin. Johnson did just two weeks ago so I mean. They're still it's still competitive. Bruce kept up. Oh, my Gosh! That guy built to. I am writing this down. Mike and Mason is in camp. The SHAMBO I have registered your vote. I appreciate your call. Thank you program I think that's. It's very kind of you. I wrote a piece golf week writer Ammon Lynch. Holy cow did he team up and crush? Bryson we'll get into that. Look Ed and mark and Dan. They took this. I might have something here I'm daring to do a Gulf topic one which he's gotTa make you see Chris. Happy and I'm daring double daring to do a golf topic. It's not about Tiger Woods. It is eighteen or an sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Mad. Scientists meathead revolutionary juicer. What is he is? We continue on seven hundred. WWL You. Plumbing. Eight. Twenty three seven hundred wwl wrol carriers sports dot presented by kills Chevrolet. Dabbling in the different tonight, because I don't know I. Don't know what to make of him. Bryce into Shambo the Golfer, but I'll say this he's. He's must watch TV and in a date where we don't have a lot to watch sportswise, you give me somebody who is without whether you like him or not, he is must watch. TV, when he is hitting three hundred fifty off the tees. And hitting one, three, sixty, the graphic last week they shoot on CBS of his his dry versus the rest of the field. I mean it's silly. How different it is and yet I redo I Jane's Today and Yahoo Sports in any ask the question. He says I have no evidence and have never met the man I'm not accusing him. I'm just asking. How is this possible? He, said he put on forty pounds since last season and added at least twenty pounds of muscle during the three month hiatus for covid nineteen. He writes. Most people in the bodybuilding business will tell you that adding twenty five pounds of muscle in an entire year is extremely difficult. This is a player who won the NCWA titled Amateur Title In the same season at two hundred pounds, and now he's a two hundred and forty. And this line I. It made me think of Mark Maguire writes man if he showed up these days at spring training for a major league baseball team with this sort of body transformation, the accusations will be flying in his direction. Hamilton we go next. What do you say Ed? Hey, what's going on land? You tell me, what do you make of all this? Bring on the golf course conversation more often like. unfortunately Bryson is all of the above. Anything that you say, and it's true, and that's what everybody thought of Tiger being all the above when. He hit the links. You know what I mean And, what he is is doing the same thing lamps that golf. At boozy is and. And you know commentators and everything. Said when Tiger game onto the scene and said Hey. You know we've got a lake in these courses. Because you know tigers here now, and and he's hitting three hundred twenty five yards so now we're going to lengthen the courses for Bryce and. It, it's the same thing land. He's all of the above and he's doing the same thing. Tiger made golf do now. Unfortunately here's what's going to happen. And a few years down the road. BRYSON'S GONNA end up going through the same thing. That, tiger went through. Your back is not made to be able to do the chart. This man is putting on his lower back just like tiger. So look for that here in a few years for Brighton. back is not made torque like that, but hey, you're right it is. It is much TV Muslim Alliance Hey Steve I'm so glad you're listening and thanks for calling I? Learned something and I hope you'll call again. Thank you I. Like that I'm trying to find. WAS IT Steve Flesch. Steve Flesch tweeted about. About the incident last Saturday and I'm trying to look for the exact. We'd find it here in a second about a sham. His behavior Silverton we go MERC. You're on seven hundred WWL W. Lance how you doing buddy I'm well I'm glad you called. What are you? What do you think of all this well? I'll tell you what I mean. It. Bryce in it is you know interesting I off, know where he he's. He's actually a very smart guy yeah. So, he you know his before he bought up. A You know he he was all about I. Mean he basically approached Golf game like an engineer? And you know, and if you look at his his swing and the way he holds US club is set up I mean it's very unorthodox and and I agree with the last caller I mean. You know. If, he's not careful. He's GonNa wind up with a lot of injuries. Just like Tiger did but in terms of your your overall question. I mean to me and I think most golfers. I mean it's entertaining to watch I mean you watch? The guy hit a ball three hundred sixty seven yard. That's kind of cool, but. at the same time I mean I played golf. My entire life I love the game He is just A. Is just an amusement kind of really in my opinion. I mean he's he's not I mean. I hate the guy, but I you know I'm not enamored with I mean I'm there to watch good goal, and whether it's Dustin Johnson or whether it's one of the other guys I'm there to see good goal you know in, and if he's if he's cheating than the PGA looking eventually and will come out, but I hope he I hope he's not cheating the other thing too is. And unfortunately they're not gonNA play this year, but. You know he's. He's obviously in line. Be One of the members of the Ryder Cup team. And you know. That's the way I look at it to 'CAUSE OUR TEAM USA? I, mean you know I? Don't want him being quirky and everything and. All this other stuff I want him to produce and be part of the winning team. So You know she's a little bit of a head case really in my opinion but he's he's entertaining but you know I'm not in love with the guy. I hate the guy you know, it's just you know I. Take it as a as it. Is. You know Senator Payment. Thanks Buddy. Night, that's what I'm looking for. This stuff I found the Steve flesch quote friend of the show Steve Flesch of the incident on Saturday when Bryson went after the cameraman and said you know basically. Why are you showing me doing that? You're hurting my brand. Steve Flesch, as can't have it both ways when you sign to endorse products and companies, you become a public figure. They aren't signing you to be invisible. See I I like what I've heard in the first three or four calls because he's. It's a very complex store. There's a lot of layers to this story. I my bottom line is i. find him a combination of. I find it fascinating, and whether I like him or not. He something that pulls me to the TV to watch because I WANNA see what he's GonNa do next. When we come back. Dan's my leadoff hitter. I have every line open beyond that maybe one more segment on Bryson before are. On this state in reds, history golfers come one come all five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight hundred pounds, seven, hundred on at and T. carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet seven hundred wwl wliw. Ready for you. Eight thirty, nine, seven hundred wwl aren't held carrier sports. Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm very pleased I'm very pleased and excited that we have dabbled in something different. We have dared WANNA. Do Golf dare to do golf without a Tiger Woods Angle to the topic and I will say this in the small sample size, certainly unscientific. I've had more calls tonight on Bryce into Shambhu. That I've had on the reds this week. Go figure. It's why I say this show is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're GonNa get about about Dan in Liberty Township. And there he is way. Say Dan. Yes so you know I think I'm agreeing with the crowd here by some Shambo? It's GonNa be fun to watch, but before we think this is some big new thing, and that's Germany within last week didn't have the strongest field and he long, but sometimes crooked, and putting actually saved them to help win the tournament. You know all these guys have? are very scientific club making and their strokes and don't go too much with that, but. I'm just interested in. There's a whole bunch of really good golfers, and and I WANNA see how he stacks up side against the bath. The memorial be really fun to watch. And then you know these guys come along, and you know Jordan's face. I don't think Georgia speeches and he might be around fifty in the world right now after winning a bunch of majors couple years ago and And You know think Era Studies Aquino to hear you call. Your harm onto. We all got excited so but you never know i. mean the good ones you know the Amer. Say they they on scene and and they roll. A whole bunch of people come on the scene and you know and it's. They're just like everybody else, but he's already better than everybody else, but but he you know who knows right. It's GonNa be fun to watch no doubt about that Dan. I'm glad you called tonight. Thank you. Thanks for check in reading. Mentioned and Lynch Eamon Emon Lynch have golf week. Who wrote who he wrote? Trophies will likely come soon. Thanks to his fine play that too will be good for the game, and also giving something else to enjoy his reflection in, but a touch of class we'll be hurt or one for Bryson who? Writes the Shambo has the luxury of life in his branded bubble. It's the privilege of youth of someone who hasn't hit the speed bumps and potholes that complicate career paths farther down the road, but someday the answer to his most pressing problems won't be found on a track man monitor data offering direction, and he won't find out who he is by watching his own commercials whoo. That that came out Sunday, night and From start to finish, that was a takedown of Bryce into Shambo go Sharonville Mike. Welcome to sports talk. How are Ya? Lanced on well. Are you doin' wellness time I am trying to yes in. Thank you for calling. Well I'll tell you what I you know. This is a subject that kind of caught my eye and I didn't have my phone I couldn't call earlier so I. Apologize if I'm repeating a couple of things that people have said. I was very fortunate. I played in high school I played in college and I've played in a lot of US tournaments. I do a little bit of teaching. And what's interesting? Is You know Bryson has a advanced degree in physics. Now heat now. He's doing some things I think I think he's clean. Far Is 'cause USDA. Or the PJ has a very stringent. They tested positive for certain things. Okay so. My point is I mean he's got an advanced degree now. This is a guy that actually does. That is working with a company that makes it a chef. Called La Chefs. Yes, he he's setting. He's sitting down with the engineers saying what he feels and what he's what he wants to What's the shafts to do now? I won't go into details about that unless you're interested. Sounds like it's funny. I'm watching a the Kentucky speedway race. It almost sounds like a driver sitting down with his team. Saying this is what I feel. When I'm in the car. Make this adjustment. tweak this here. Maybe tweak that they're. Absolutely, but these people chef is is actually building shafts for him. It's it's a company that He's some smart that. His I mean I and I don't want to go into details unless you want to know. But his swing from a teaching perspective. It's not about winning. A lot of people think that swinging harder is how you had a further. It's all about club head speed. The data is all about club head speed launch changle low spend rate. Those are the keys that that that better golfers professional golfers are looking for they WANNA. They WANNA try to hit a knuckleball as high and as hard as they can. And, when you look at his swing and my opinion, I mean you look at his hands? His hands are sitting in a spot that. Doesn't, but says the date that is that it's that his hands are going a whole lot now now he's he's. His swing is very violent. Okay now he's not a physical specimen. Okay? He added a bunch of weight and he's gotten stronger, but he's. He's not A. It's such a violence swing that it's been set for by other callers that he's got you know. I don't know how he's going to be able. Sustain yet mean he's twenty six. But is but between lower back and his knees, and how violently he? Gets you know releases the club. The concern I have is yes, it's it's not a long-term swing. But this cat is smart enough. You know the shaft designed that he's using I mean he. He designed his putter. he's got a very good. He's very good on the Greens as one of the best putters, but he's got a really kinda crappy short thing, but if you're hitting wedges. ledges and eight hundred and depart five. You're gonNA have an advantage. Honestly honestly I mean there's other ways when you look at it. It's like how does he get much club head speed, but it's a very violent yeah. It's very violent down swing, and I'm like. How's he getting the distance in? You know obviously the guy is what he's doing, but it's I. Tell You what I'm concerned because your knees and your lower back not made. Simple Hey Mike I enjoyed. Thanks, Buddy. Brichet I. Love Listening. Thank you have a great night. I can't tell you how cool it is that. I heard from so many golfers tonight. On this topic I'm reading Dwight Jane's again from Yahoo Sports, who in it's been brought up on twitter about the testing the PG does a from the Yahoo Story, the PGA test for performance enhancing drugs. He writes but I. I would assume somebody known as the mad. Scientist might possibly have access to substances. That wouldn't show up in your average PD. D. Screen the only time I've seen. He writes the only time I've seen rapid weight and strength gains like this or with athletes using some sort of supplements. If the Shambo doing is doing this without chemical help if so, it's an incredible story. Also points out how the media and he references the mark mcgwire Sammy Sosa era. He writes I. Remember a couple of decades ago when sports writers were accused of burying their heads in the sand, or just covering up for baseball players, and their possible reasons for their suddenly imposing physical presence. Go back and look at a picture of the Shambo at Smu, and the year he doubled up a with the the NC Double A. Championship in amador. He was two hundred pounds. That was twenty fifteen. This is five years later and according to him since last season he's put on forty pounds, and at least twenty pounds of muscle have come over the last three months during the quarantine. We will head down the stretch. We'll do on this date in reds history. Get you set up for gambling venue reality. Check talk with Mike Dardis of news five George Vogel of News Five and speed the baseball agent, the president of Sterling Sports. At all ahead seven hundred WWL W. And, Mary. Music tells us time to go back in time. We do it every night to wrap up the show. We look for moments on this date in reds history I pull out Red Lake, journal Fantastic book written by Greg, roads and John Snyder here. We go this date. Eighteen seventy eight midway through the reds home game versus the providence grays a fifteen minute. Heat break is called. The providence steam had been playing mostly in the cooler climate of the northeast, and ask for the respite to recover from the hot and Humid Cincinnati Day. The reds beat the heat and beat the grays twelve to four. This date, eighteen, eighty, seven Tony Milady to hit New, York his fifth, shut out of the metropolitans that season it tied a major league record. He finished the season thirty, one and seventeen thirty point seventy. He did that despite a four week suspension for refusing to pitch in a game. Eighteen thirty four on this date, the reds beat Paul Dean and the colonel's in game two of a doubleheader. They lost to his brother Dizzy in the first game. One thousand nine hundred forty reds manager bill mckechnie in the national. League wins the All Star game four nothing over the American, League Paul. Derringer tosses two scoreless innings followed by Bucky Walters doing the same. Nineteen sixty-one reds route the dodgers fourteen to three in Los Angeles Frank. Robinson drives in a career high seven runs. HOMERS! Single Veta- In ties. A team record scoring five runs don. Drysdale was ejected in the sixth inning after throwing it three straight reds batters hitting Robinson. You. Don't WanNa mess with Don drives. They haven't been of a temper Aska Tom Haram. Nineteen seventy-three reds and expos. The pitchers combined to walked twenty five batters in eleven to six win for the reds at Gerry. Perk Tom Hall and Clay Carroll Walked Nine, the Expos. hurlers issued sixteen free passes in the game. How king clubbed pinch hit home run a grand slam in the sixty. Eight, one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, four six reds homer in an eight, two five win over the cubs at Wrigley, field, count with me. Morgan Peres, Geronimo Driessen. Bench and Foster, nine hundred seventy six reds, beat the pirates twelve to eleven in ten innings in front of fifty, three, thousand, two, hundred and thirty eight riverfront, the bucks had taken it eleven to nine lead in the tenth, but the reds answered with three in the bottom of the tenth to win it capped by George Foster's two run single and this date nineteen eighty-six Wade Rowden remember Wade Rowden. He got a rare start and delivered five hits against Dwight gooden and three mets relievers in an eleven to one win at Shea Stadium. That you're look at this date in reds history by the way the way route note. And this was pointed out in Red Legged Journal. I remember very little of Route Rowden. He had a five hit day in a career that totaled thirty four hits. rowden was a to seventeen hitter in the major leagues with thirty four career hits and he had five in one game. I would I would wonder. This sounds like something for my Guy Steven. Sharp I would How do I want to phrase this I would think that would be the fewest career hits for a player with at least five hits in a single game. Is that what it was? Somebody looked at up. Me There can't be. There can't be many guys in baseball? If had a five hit game that wound up with fewer than thirty four hits in their career when you think. One final note here before we get out from Seth Davis today athletic, how about the love for the tri-state Seth? Davis College Basketball writer with the top ten arenas in college basketball top ten arenas in college basketball. The tri-state is represented four times in fact for the top seven spots number one Allen fieldhouse Kansas Rock Chalk Jayhawk and the whole thing. He writes no better place on game day number two cameron indoor. No Cameron Indoor only holds ninety, three, thousand and fourteen. Number, three historic hinkle fieldhouse, nine, hundred, eighty, seven, designated a national historic landmark. Number Four. The Alestra in Pennsylvania on West Thirty Third Street and westbound. which is also the home of a technically the home at Penn quakers, but has also played host to many teams including phillies big five schools in fact I didn't know this. The placentas dress hosted more college basketball games in any arena in the country. A number five assembly hall Bloomington. Number six. You D arena. Dayton sits at the heart of the American midwest of Proud Gritty Burg. That is often overshadowed by surrounding cities like Cleveland Cincinnati Columbus. Louisville and Indianapolis yet. There are few places where the people are suing Namrd with their hometown college basketball team. Number seven rupp arena. Eight is McCarthy Athletic Center in Gonzaga Oregon's. Home Court carrier Dome for the Syracuse. Orange it number nine Dean Smith. The Dean E. Smith Center is number ten, so hinkle wound up three assembly hall, five Ud arena, six and rupp arena seven tomorrow night on the show by the way if you Miss Mrs Show, Mr Podcast. I interview always available in podcast form seven hundred wwl W, dot com, the podcast presented by friends at Richter and Phillips Jewelers. If you go to richterphillips, dot, com slash lance. They'll give you a fifty percent off deal on your next purchase from Richter and Phillips. Jewelers Tomorrow Night I'm going to try to rustle up some reds conversation. Had you heard what the cowboy thing so the during rule? I'M GONNA. Play some of that and I'm in the market for an off the beaten path. Topic I've got one. I'm not completely sold on it. If you have one, we can have some fun with an end the week. By all means. My email is always open lance at Lance McAlister. Dot Com. This was fun tonight. Thanks for being a part of it. Let's do it tomorrow. do it tomorrow. 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Three less common actually talk on the near sideline veteran michael floyd pizzas. Man mcsorley drops one in there the visit nineteen point game. You're listening to sports overnight america with jeff walker back in everyone the big news of the night kamar meaningless football games would be the left foot <hes> starting quarterback cam newton. This could be very problematic. Oh matic because cam newton is obviously as most starting quarterbacks are a very integral part of the carolina offense. I would say he is exactly what makes them go and if he is on the shelf look for carolina to <hes> fire sale for carolina to maximize on the assets that <hes> they feel that they need to unload out salt lake baseball where you can really build your team for four or five years down the road because <hes> your compensation that you get in return is in the form of fourth and fifth round draft pick so <hes> you know it's a similar set of circumstances where <hes> when you are a seller that you are trading. The present for the future is the cases in major really baseball <hes> in both cases. You need to be able to scout very well whether it's to make those fourth or fifth rounders in to oh every day n._f._l. Players or starters in the league or if it stood you know elevate these <hes> prospects to the major the league level. It's a you know. The odds are stacked against you either way late round picks or low level prospects so keep an eye <hes> <hes> it's being defined as left ankle sprain at this point it is august twenty second season starts two weeks from tonight night on the fifth <hes> that game in chicago between the packers and the chicago bears at soldier field <hes> the kickoff to the n._f._l.'s dell's one hundredth season. They're really hyped about that. Unfortunately they will be playing on tree approved venues. You're about this with the raiders and the packers they play this game on an eighty yard field so we set up the pylons from the tend to the goal line you see this in the end. The ten yard end zone style. The goalposts remained in the back of the end zones but the goalpost in the front of the end zones were what created the problem and that's because <hes> up there in maple syrup land they decide that they need to play on one hundred ten yard field with these deep end zones and the goal post at the goal line now down here in the u._s. Survey we decided it gets that many many years ago sometime in the seventies at the goalpost. Stay off the playing field. I can't imagine that the short passing game i mean here you allowed to loop. De loop the ball through the goal post back in the l. Leather helmet days the leather helmets. Don't even seem that primitive when you consider the metal posts that are on the field as fortunate as visit houston houston <hes> before and after the the hill and the flagpole that are in play there now cooler minds prevailed and you're you're you don't have a literal uphill battle in centerfield at minute maid park anymore. You don't have these goalpost on the field a a and you know it's not like the canadians tried to try to push this thing on them like like they do with ham the they call it vacant they tried turf over the holes and the teams just deemed it unsafe mike mccarthy but matt leflore. I pulled thirty. Three starters are expected to get some limited playing time up there now winnipeg. That's where this stupid exhibition was. Take place the home of the zombie atlanta thrashers. They took down the identity of the winnipeg jat. Sue haven't hadn't existed for a long time. I think ninety seven to twenty twelve and really the beginning of the ninety six ninety ninety seven season until they returned in whatever your was twenty twelve twenty thirteen twenty fourteen who cares <hes>. They're canada's answer to the minnesota. Wild nah team then why bother you in the playoffs without a team. That's going to make a deep run. Winnipeg pag not ready for primetime and i think the mary brought it up in her talk up there that ah what were we talking about. We're talking about the the raiders and you know and the packers playing on this eighty yard field. We add we we we twelve minute exhibition of baseba- we had cam newton walking off the field in a boot and he jim harbaugh said it's hard to compete with the cheaters down there in the southeastern conference. I think the big ten fans just eat it up. I think that especially in michigan where there's just this huge huge inferiority complex that you're gonna you're gonna turn your fans vance against the those who hold the bell. It ain't all the teams in the s._e._c. but etre israel has been michigan very often and very recently josh mccown back in the n._f._l. N._f._l. signs with the philadelphia goes. We thought that he was done once and for all by you know say what you will about as win loss record the caliber of play they on the teams that he was on but josh recounts been around for a long time. I think he's made some major contributions to the development of players nothing they can really site off off the back of your hand but a what a long career and maybe he gets a chance to get out there and do it one more time and then we got the ezekiel elliott elliott drama where jerry jones make some joke talk about zeke who says i've earned the right to joke with with zeke to'seek about zeke meanwhile ezekiel elliot elliot. <hes> is becoming a rastafari down there. I don't know if you've seen the new hairstyle but it's not exactly the <hes>. Oh what would you call that that type type of haircut that he's got or that he had. I don't even know what you call what he's got now but he came back to dallas for a little bit and <hes> you back to kabul i hold thing is is definitely a charade for those those looking now. The second highest paid running back in the n._f._l. Is lavi. I'm bill making fifty two and a half million dollars allers over four years tigar. Lee is making an uneven fifteen a year sixty million dollars over four years. Now the cowboys are playing this game where they're not going to optum and they could easily give them sixty one over four you know just to give them that dignity of being the highest paid running back but they said said <hes> you know you got two years left on your deal we're going to we're gonna put you right in the middle or make you the second highest paid running back now. <hes> you know i wonder if they played the prices right game where it's like okay if you're four years fifty two and a half million dollars and why what are they gonna add zeke. Come you wanna come home from kabul. You wanna wanna hang out in training camp where <hes> jason jason garrett. I just don't think he said i know that you know jerry. Jones will never ever <hes> partway part ways with him under ugly circumstances but if you've got the the cowboys in the super bowl. Do you think jason in garrett's gonna be the one that takes them there. I just feel like he is more severe almost the most unlikely candidates to engineer in years something like that. I think that it would take a lot of circumstances. Good bounces whatnot for the dallas cowboys to consider the super bowl. I don't know that they're going to win the n._f._c. east. I like the eagles a lot even with their quarterback deficiencies shortage risk with carson wentz and very little behind behind them but <hes> we'll see all plays out. These seasons are fun to watch and even in the meaningless games. We've got a lot of things to talk about on the other side. 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That's one eight hundred three seven ninety six. Oh eighty call one eight hundred three seven seven hundred ninety six oh eight cornell why shot down in the corner. That's all the way to the law. That's fair. That's a winner. There comes aung alexander score then quickly. The red sox win the ball game to force kunia. He the second deck laser beam kunia. This is sports overnight. America could be over twelve minutes. We could be here for twelve innings good evening for sports byline. I'm mary mc mara with your major league baseball fav final scores in the american league. The royals in the red sox finally finished the game. They started on august the seventh and had been suspended due to rain. It took boston austin twelve minutes to finish being kansas city five to four in real time games the white sox take game. One of a four-game set with the rangers six to one. I'm in houston garrett. Cole had seven scoreless innings and struck out twelve in the astros six to three win the as complete a three game sweep of the yankees with with a five to three wins and the orioles lost a tampa bay five to two and a while ensure. They weren't thrilled about it. At least it was not a thirty two three loss as it was twelve years. Go tonight against the rangers in the national league. The cubs get their fifth straight win. With a one the nothing defeated the giants atlanta also nabs a fifth straight win when they beat the marlins speed at two mac schwarzer returned to the nationals after being on injured for about a month he allows one run in four innings and the nationals beat the pirates seven into one marsala zona paul young and dexter fowler all get to home runs as the cardinals rallied back on the rockies six to five in interleague action the mets and the indians get called after eight innings and two rain delays mets win to nothing and the blue jays lead the whole game that allow the dodgers to come back in the ninth to win reba too and that's a wrap from the m._l._d. Well throw it back over to jazz. What a sad life toronto blue jays mary. I mean it. It just feels like you know consecutive nights months you on wednesday night. They get paid on thursday and yeah. This is just the type of season when you're not a very good ball club and you run into a team that has just been a incredibly good like him or not. Incredibly good of the dodgers bent over the last <hes> three seasons they just gotta finish the job in october and they haven't proven that they that that they're capable of that just yet well. That's what the dodgers have been doing this season season they either just come out insert beating the crap out of you from the gates or they just walk off in the night. I didn't get around to looking up how many they have but it's it's a lot of walk-off windsor. Lotta walk off wins. You know you go do baseball dash reference dot com and they put little w o's next to all the all of the walk off games. It's something iran and you know. I happened to come up a couple of weeks ago and i like. I like sharing the knowledge. I don't like hogging all of the all all of the knowledge. You don't need me to tell you everything you can read up on a few things on your own time. <hes> we're back here on sports overnight america. We're live at ten p._m. A._m. pacific time monday through thursday you give me and you get a little bit more of mary as <hes> as time passes on and and we we chat about things and <hes> <hes> you know because it was convenient in the green room before the show <hes> we <hes> we decided to watch the twelve minutes of the red sox broadcast which was actually about twenty he minutes <hes> because <hes> dave o'brien and jerry ramey had a lot of <hes> pre-game show that a little sideline reporter was talking talking about all the kids coming in and it was pretty cool of that for boston to put on for <hes> what you could have been a very quick game or could have been a long lasting asking fairer and a stalemate the entire time to allow that to happen. Well you know obviously we know that it was the former there and <hes> it was brock holt quickly weekly <hes>. We've got four routes in boston on thursday and you know it was they didn't they have something for the kids there mary <hes> where you know it was it was money you know they they they put all proceeds towards <hes> the jimmy fund there in boston. What a way to to make lemons. Make lemonade out of the lemons yes so anyone under eighteen was allowed in for free anyone over eighteen five dollars donation that just went to jimmy <hes> foundation alco sessions went to the foundation. Everyone got to do a lap around the warning track on the field. Take pictures. I mean that's not something you'll get to do every day especially at fenway markdown concessions i mean tickets. It's for fenway. <hes> you know i haven't looked. I haven't been in the market to shop. I e for tickets in the commonwealth of massachusetts but i'm i'm guessing it's it's probably north three hundred on average to take your family afford the game if you're gonna you even getting minimal concessions and what they did. Was you know <hes> afraid free admission to the kids five dollar five dollar donation <hes> for the adults and if you know if the kids aren't back in school yet and i have no idea when boston goes back to school light <hes> the kids aren't back at school. You could take them to the ball game. I mean for fifty bucks you can get them cotton candy and hot dogs and one dollar pops and this would have been a day. Hey that i was sick and i would have just gone to school. My family would just taking me down on the ball. Pardon yeah now. They say. The parking is kind of expensive in boston but they have they have public transit. If you were able to get there via public transit it was <hes>. It was an inexpensive data. How bombed you are. I mean the the home team wins. You got to be a little bit happy about that but at the same time for probably four hours a day for twelve minutes of action yeah. You're probably anticipating it being. I mean you're taking a gamble. You don't know how long it's gonna go. You're probably anticipating these. Maybe two full innings. I'm guessing like i saw i thought it was a little bit extreme that they said oh. It could be one inning. It could be ten no. It's probably not gonna go to ten but i think mobile inaugurated twenty innings. They're not gonna play twenty innings. I think most people at least expected and inning or two of all baseball though so i don't know i mean yeah your whole day was going to be the the ballpark and it's twenty minutes later and we're looking at each other like so you go to museums or something educational. What do we do now. I think that you could get bored with the with the thirteenth inning. Just it's the same as if you were watching the. I you know the first nine. I think baseball can be frustrating that way because you're not getting compelling action you unless you're unless you ceiling seven spot matched by a seven spot to extend the game. You're probably seeing a lot of wanted three innings. Your started probably seeing a lot of men left on base just the same of course my mind mind goes to alcohol because the worst thing about being stuck at a baseball event that goes fourteen fifteen sixteen innings is those liquor sales cut off up at seven so i'm wondering if they've been so today i mean it was technically the tenth inning while you're i know for a fact you're aware of the loophole in phoenix arizona at the <hes> chase field where there is a t._g._i. Fridays in the outfield that does not have the same restrictions as the ballpark so you could could have had a stretch hang out with many outlets for the first six and a half innings of the game and then you know go get your drink out. Yeah go up. They're gonna get a frozen decorating. Maybe some of those delicious six okay okay t._g._i. Fridays she's sixty yeah they aren't they like pretzel coated there all right so so there's a lot there's there's a lot of fun baseball stuff. We talked about the circumstances of of being able to go to the games and dan drink at the games and who knows when last call is for a game that starts starts you know for a day that starts with a runner on in the two or no runners i i think it was a two one count no outs okay but yeah these things like you'll billy hamilton do up third in the top of the sensor the royals but he no longer place for the they should have had to summon him from atlanta to to make his plate appearance single person. Come back and do exactly what they were doing. When there's a lot there's a lot of weird stuff that can happen like what if what if you were traded from one team to the other now that this game was august seven th and the trade deadline on july thirty first but what is your traded needed from the field. What is your day. What if you're the reason the game went into extra innings and then you've got to be the hero for the other team. I think that that is the absolute close at area that can come from this you know of course you have guys that <hes> you know might not be on the team anymore. That could be the winning pitcher in the game. You know if you through the bottom of the ninth and then <hes> the royals went in the in the top your or take the lead in the top of the tenth of hang on then you've got a guy that <hes> you know the the award you could even save you can't save your own win because in yellow you've already pinched in that game but <hes> there's a lot of circumstances they can happen as a result of a two week hiatus between the start and finish of a ballgame there is there isn't that and in this case there was a whole long list of like ten players that had somehow either shifted or injured guys that were injured that that just couldn't play the and then you had the pine tar incident royals went to the bronx to finish off a win that was originally declared a loss the lab and the yankees the yankees. Give a darn factor was just completely mailed in. I believe right. Gigiri was a starting pitcher played first base jason the ninth inning for the yankees and a left handed second baseman in don mattingley i i you know i think it's fun but it's also a little bit silly. But what do you do if a tight game against washed out by rain. She's marrying me far. I'm jeff rich. <hes> this is sports overnight america and we are are coming to you on the american forces network appreciate you out there everything you do. We'll be right back with more sports overnight america right after the break. You're listening to sports sports. Overnight america could be every twelve minutes. We could be here for twelve innings. If they're not happy here they can the ah associates law firm principal office in houston texas responsible for the content of this ad potential active or retired military. 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We say that she's always keeping score and that in fact that's how you follow her on instagram always keeping keeping score and just a few more baseball edem so on to <hes> discuss with you. Mary first of all justin verlander <hes> really gaining snowflake lake status as he spends more and more time with the whiny est organization in all sports and <hes> houston. That is your team <hes>. You don't have a problem with it but everybody else kind of has a problem with the bravado of these astros. Justin verlander didn't run his mouth while he was chasing the crown in chasing the ring with the detroit tigers he goes to the houston astros and loses all matter of class and now he is <hes> he's banning reporters from talking to neil reporters that have their obligation to cover the team and to be honest and i you know i i i like justin. Verlander is a pitcher but the more and more i hear about how he behaves as he reaches get off my lawn status in his mid thirties the the more i don't like him. I think it's it happens. I mean he's been pitching how long he's probably been asked the same questions. The july fourth two thousand five mass the same questions specifically about the juiced balls. I'm sure that has come up frequently. He's probably we talked about earlier. Just used just thoughts on the show in a while but there's a lot of balls flying out of the ballpark yeah so i don't know maybe he has some other kind of pass with this guy may or reporter. I don't even know oh male female. Maybe there was some not pleasant. Words shames last time they think he's being a big baby about losing to the detroit tigers and that's why the detroit media's there ears 'cause they're tigers are whipping up on him as anybody else on the two in terms of whining said astros whiny team anyone else oh they talk about it you they will pay trevor. Our trevor bauer accused them of cheating a year ago. You know the saying that you know. Human beings are incapable of the spin rates that they're applying lying and you know it's. It's not the first time that you've had somebody complain about somebody in the south cheating. Oh you know you got. You got jim harbaugh doing that about at the s._e._c. Jim harbaugh didn't complain about the s._e._c. When he was <hes> winning at stanford <hes> by now that he's and and let's let's be honest you know when you talking about south of michigan most immediately south of michigan is the state of ohio and he's kind of had a hard time with that yeah yeah there should actually be said bitterness s. and that kin khanate get rid of him in michigan. I mean he's he's legendary quarterback but <hes> you know at some point feelings. Gotta gotta get out of the way of you know trying to. It's the same thing with the cogs. Okay yeah great. Who do you bring in somebody else because you you keep losing with harbaugh or you could. You'll maybe lose the somebody else but maybe maybe when somebody in somebody named somebody else right. Now is so excited that they are finally. There's somebody else that is being recommended. Something i want to meet all these some somebody else's that are going to step in and make immediate changes. I can't predict the future. We're here mary so so here's a here's a story that kind of flew under the radar flew right by me on on wednesday with a lot to talk about wednesday's show but <hes> i read the headline but you know a barbecue restaurant employee phoenix pitches for for colorado and i live in phoenix arizona. What's what's the first place you think of when you think of barbecue will miss tim melville or too little ole miss barbecue and and this stuff is just a haven't sent smoked meat. I didn't know what else to do. The first time am i ate it because it just smelled tasted so good and it was such an overwhelming amount of feelings that i just cried because i i did not know what else to do. Are you a ribs schicker. <hes> <hes> brisk baby. I think brisket honest. I'll eat any kind of barbecued needs but yeah prescription a ed. I get a little ms barbecue is really good. <hes> you know i've had texas barbecue. I think that <hes> mop up my ears corn. Muffins dimap appeared appeared. Don't don't use the jalapeno grits that they've that they've got. This guy is legitimately pitcher in the colorado organization and instead of just taken the off season off or <hes> you know doing whatever voelpel ball players tend to do in the where he got a winner job working at this barbecue restaurant and you know maybe kennedy got his foot in the door a little bit more than an average joe would've when he said you know hey. I'm a picture. This is kind of a hobby. You have the best food i've ever eaten so can can i work here and get some free barbecue. I'll tell you is somebody who is actually had applications come in where other job m._l._b. player. It has been listed. It does certainly stand out in a stack of regular college students. I'm going to ask you or no you definitely notice professional ballplayer on on a resume but you know i mean what if what if they're qualified bartender that doesn't have a yellow zero three weeks with the texas rangers organization under there under the bill partner is he actually handling the slabs of meat well. I'm just saying thank for example as obviously athletic. He can handle the big giant slabs of me wrong. Maybe he wants to be a pit. Master wants to take his you know his colorado rockies. He's millions when he retires. He's going to be a major league. Ballplayer is gonna rake in the dough and then just build this fat barbecue kitchen. You read the case pleading like six six games so you'll at thirty five days in the majors just six career appearances prior to wednesday a pitch seventy seven to hit innings allowing only one run now. It's just the same guy that got picked up by the as i i don't know i don't know that he was because i haven't heard anything about this barbecue hugo but i have heard about the guy who was i believe at a rockies game and he was doing the speed pitched and he was hitting high nineties a different guy. This is that just came amount of nowhere and he had a pretty decent outing the other night as well the pitch guy pitch guy. Oh yeah we gotta get speed. We gotta get a name on speed tich guy and you know we've got a name on barbecue guy. It's <hes> tim melville <hes> some other things going on in the national football league a._o. Oh patrick chung the great safety for a oh seems like a decade and a half for the new england patriots picked up on cocaine charges in new hampshire standby on that one and mary. It looks like you had something else i do. It's nathan patterson twenty-three-year-old signed by the is through ninety six mph <hes> fastball at a fast pitch. It wasn't even like it wasn't even like an oakland game it was it was somewhere else altogether so is in colorado yeah so colorado's got higher barbecue you guys out of phoenix and the oakland athletics are hiring fans out of the concourses at chorus field. That's <hes> pretty awesome. Awesome zini stories lots zany stories lots of stories. Have you heard about the you've heard about the freeze in atlanta where you they give you the you know the civilians this <hes> long headstart on the warning track different than the fridge right. Those are two different things get there. I was getting their very shift is three hundred pound guy that kinda does the same thing and he looks like he looks like he's struggling like at three. Have you seen the video yes yes. I think it's great gimmick and it's also within the braves organization organization to now. Are we sure that you'll i heard the billy. Hamilton ended up in the atlanta organization. We sure that the the fridge is not just billy hamilton in a spandex fat suits it might be. I didn't check to see when it had started because now you're now. You're because now they're now. They're chieveley now now. The braves organization is cheating on their promotions like they're in the s._e._c. or something right. How did i bring that together. That's good <hes> <hes> some quarterback controversies in the n._f._l. And you know if you know that you're gonna go with the young guy going forward. Don't bother not trying to hurt you. Lie manning's feelings because the colts deal. The colts were at least respectful enough to his brother that they didn't mince words. Hey we're going to release you because we can draft your replacement placement. <hes> any lamey annex case daniel jones is already that replacement and <hes> without without peyton. I think that he loses his chart a little bit right it oh because he doesn't have that other half is just kind of the he's the other one. I don't know i think they oh. I think they could hold on their own. Obviously all of them together are more fun more merrier but i think it's sad that we're getting to the end of racehorse. I know we're getting to the end of it and you know it's getting to the end of it and you're just kind of fucking around. It and i just do it already. I'm going why not let them run. A few more raises just go. Just go retire new things some philly break your heart. Eli case keenum case keenum. I mean i mean this poor guy. He was a star for he was a starter for minnesota and he goes to the denver broncos and he doesn't really have a guaranteed job there. They trade freedom to washington and <hes> you'll washington takes <hes> dwayne haskins seventh overall so <hes> you know it doesn't look like is going to win the job and the worst part of it. All is is the haskins isn't that good. The only problem is the colt. Mccoy is her listen colt. Mccoy always heard mary constantly going back to access stations for him. I mean he's just a little guy. He doesn't belong out there and i think that that's i think the key that they call it. The koi is the best precedence you tyler murray with undersized players. We just had such a big heart though autists club mccoy. It's it's nice. I mean his father's probably still going to his games and he was like thirty three thirty four years old jerseys hanging in my closet with all my own prior all my other all my other random jerseys i collected if people people who all the defunct dilapidated not really affiliated with the organization shameful on their way out a whole closet full of down the least you don't have a very bonds jersey in your in your closet or do i really know. I really don't know <hes> eighty the yards for the packers and the raiders. That's just kinda sad. I mean we've seen some exhibition baseball exhibition baseball in the alamodome where the right field fence was like fifty hertz. Didn't we do college game at wrigley field kind of weird so they weren't smacking into the ivy and a break in the outfield yet. I have to play like yeah. I think well they didn't athlete ozzy's they <hes> they just said you know once you once you got the ball that you couldn't go towards. It's the outfield you had to go back towards home plate because it was basically the right side of the infield out you know so the third base line was the was the end zone and then it went went all the way to the <hes> <hes> you know all the way to the right field wall and immediately into the right field wall <hes> so anytime you know you change possession ashen as long as it was feasible leaflet around but there was like a pick six or something like that <hes> where somebody did score an end zone going towards the right field bleachers at wrigley but wrigley's adjusting jousting with all the renovations. They're not stuck in the configuration from the thirties anymore. I mean it's a nice to do those games but i can't imagine because it does not look like any bandaged points from this seats would be fantastic though of course not this is just like credit just for the sake of going but i feel like you actually can't see anything. That's going on yeah yeah. It's a lot like outdoor hockey game. I think i got a chance to ask you about carli. Lloyd <hes> you know joining the eagles for practice. You know one of these <hes> soccer player ladies in the n._f._l. What do you think of a female kicking the n._f._l. I think it's antacid but are i will <hes> we'll see if carli lloyd or some future soccer players ready to give it a whack jerry. She's very mcmorris. Always keeping score for thanks for joining us. Mary my name's jeff rich sports overnight america and we're at the end of the hour. We'll be right back to wrap it all up right after do thanks charlie petrie with this post research with this huge twenty four touchdown countdown has begun once again. It's become old hat. It's become commonplace here. At coney island day fits extremists july joey chestnut pose america. Let continues turn us joy. You're listening to sports overnight america with jeff rich behan. Stop being racist. Cut your hand so call us to make. 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You marry make camara always keeping score for us. <hes> joins us for a little more than usual you know as we just kind of <hes> pontificated throughout out the throughout the hour discussed what was going on at a little bit of fun with a twelve minute game or the twelve minute conclusion of the game in boston austin. I weighed in a little bit on ezekiel elliott. I'm a little frustrated with the story and almost embarrassed to bring it up as often as as as i am but <hes> here's a big part of the dallas offense dallas if they think that they're contenders in if elliott indeed believes that they are going to be contenders i think deal we'll get done and even if a deal doesn't get done. I expect to see elliot out there for the cowboys. I don't think that they are confident that they could go into their season without him and i think that he risks that window slamming shot if he is not prepared to go in this two thousand nineteen season <hes> twelve knitted but <hes> game in kansas city. There's gotta be a better answer meaningless games. Let's tack them on the ad in the n._f._l. Maybe we don't play the meeting was games. We don't see cam newton. Get get unnecessarily injured in the month of august again for scott on your side of the glass for mary always keeping score my name's jeffords spent sports <unk> overnight america on dan patrick radio siriusxm channel to eleven now. Stay tuned for more sports. Come your way next hour on the sports byline broadcast up <music> the increase you're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network at live dot heartland newsfeed dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's uh-huh welcome to the public news service daily newscasts for friday august twenty third twenty nineteen. I'm mary sherman a federal court. Ruling changes how the president is elected and florida democrats trigger a special session vote on guns those stories more coming up. It just got a bit more likely that the next election will be decided by a single vote and the electoral college we get the story from suzanne potter. Judge judge in the ninth circuit decided that states cannot replace or punish a so-called faithless elector. Even if it's one of thirty states that requires delegates to support the candidate who got the most host votes in that state john khoza from the group national popular vote says there were seven electors who went against their party's wishes in twenty sixteen but i can assure you in two thousand twenty any both parties are going to be super diligent at nominating only presidential electors that they absolutely no will support the party's nominee critics have winner take hick all laws argue that it's unfair to require electors to respect majority rule especially when a candidate loses by a very thin margin in a given state and then forfeits all of that state's state's electoral votes khoza says the case is likely to be appealed to the u._s. supreme court federal prosecutors say eighty people most of them nigerians have been charged in a widespread conspiracy that stole millions of dollars from businesses and elderly people through a variety of scams that attendance will face charges of conspiracy to commit fraud conspiracy see to launder money in aggravated identity theft the justice department acknowledges that it accidentally included linked to a white supremacist website in an email to immigration in court employees and officials said the email was generated by a third party vendor that utilizes keyword searches to produce news clippings for workers now to florida where the house democratic caucus has forced to vote on whether lawmakers should convene a special session to address what they call an epidemic of gun violence in the state from back to back mass shootings in texas and ohio to everyday violence involving guns democrats say it's time to act it only takes twenty percent of the one hundred and sixty he members of the legislature to trigger a poll of the body to bring them back to tallahassee democratic state representative barbara watson of miami gardens says the violence is <unk> out of control where she lives in miami dade county children's shot near bents from stray bullet. We've got to do things that were really curtailed the the use of firearms particularly in inner cities. If we're talking about hunting i don't see the value in having a gun that could shoot off one hundred rounds three fifths of the g._o._p. Controlled legislature would have to agree to have a special session and so far senate president bill galvano and house speaker. Jose alita rejected the call. Noting lawmakers will be in tallahassee for committee weeks in september through december with the regular lawmaking session beginning in january. That was trauma gums reporting. I mean this is p. n._s. I knew analysis shows that new england could be hard hit at the trump. Administration's new endangered species act regulations. Go go into effect. Jen stanley has more amy delack is a climate change expert at defenders of wildlife. She says the new regulations could have a devastating effect in new england blend which is one of the fastest warming regions in the contiguous united states. How cold it gets in the winter is the chief factor for a lot of tree and plant species. You could it definitely be seeing some of those cold. Loving species like sugar maple spruce and i pushed out by less cold tolerant species. The environmental group joined six others this week in suing the administration over the proposed rules delack says states can still enact protections for the federal government won't the largest ever global study of its kind found that even at low levels of exposure air pollution can increase the risk of early death from cardiovascular and respiratory worry disease jesse car bonda with the hoosier environmental council in indiana says the findings confirm the need to continue to pursue policies that will improve air quality. Well particularly levels have been reduced over time. There's still pretty problematic. It is these really micro particulates that can lodge very deep into people's lungs. Those can be quite damaging. This study published in the new england journal of medicine indicates that levels of particulate matter below the current air quality guidelines and standards <unk> are still hazardous to public health august is national breastfeeding month and children's advocates are reminding lawmakers that paid family leave would help get more babies the bonding eh nutrition they need from their moms lucy sullivan with the group. One thousand days says moms or more than twice as likely to stop breastfeeding in the month. They returned to work compared with mothers who can stay home. Sullivan says giving all american workers access to paid family leave would ensure financial stability and job security which are important for new parents. The having a baby is stressful enough one of the things you don't need to worry about is either losing your job or not having the income to support your family during this amazing transition into parenthood sullivan points research showing that paid time off can reduce infant mortality by as much as ten percent along with other positive outcomes not found with unpaid paid time off critics of paid family. Leave proposals have argued that it would hurt businesses and could result in higher prices for consumers. I'm eric gladys a dozen telecommunication companies including a._t. And t. sprint and verizon are teaming up with attorneys generals of all fifty states to fight the scourge of illegal goal robocalls included in the deal is call blocking technology which will be integrated into a dozen phone networks existing infrastructure at no additional charge to customers the tech giant's will also provide other call blocking and call labeling for those customers who want more screening tools. I'm mary sherman four public news service member an listener supported and online at public news service dot o._r._g. Brad's about the college football postseason anymore because we have graduated beyond the b._c._s. but <hes> i have plenty plenty of grievances with the highest level of amateur sport at least for my entertainment dollar that would be college football <hes> i would like it schedule better earlier. I would like i would like to put an end to the neutral site games. I would like to limit the games played after dark. The game sweet off campus <hes> <hes> some of the transfer rules are a lot of things that change but our leave college football along this hour. I'm gonna talk about. It's a counterpart on the professional level the the n._f._l. And the screw job that they put to the paying customers each and every august making pay full price for a free season making the players years ago through it making the fans sit through it other has got to be a better way than what exhibition football currently is in the national all football league <hes> in the m._l._b. You know i thought about doing like mount rushmore for for <hes> teams and you'll putting stand usual bob gibson and eh perhaps paul goldschmidt ozzie smith i mean i think that the saint louis cardinals would have a difficult while rushmore go at different direction with it. We're gonna talk about the the anti christ you know the just the anti face of the franchise the most despised face <hes> for certain organizations. I imagine agean jack clark would be up there. I imagined that kirk gibson would be up there. It seems like even half <hes> you know certain e._s._p._n. Sunday night baseball commentator tator on their list and not a lot of people like joe bach and lastly in the n._f._l. Talk about spite animas talked about getting your power to flash <hes> whether it's a fan or as a player going back at your former team or your hometown that never gave gave you a second look my name's jeff rich. It's sports overnight america dan radio siriusxm channel eleven and this is the sports byline broadcast aghast at work or my ranting after the break they want to fly somewhere looking for cheap flights or cheap tickets then call aw that's right call. The low cost airline travel hotline now for prices so low. We can't publish them anywhere. Low cost airlines has all kinds of cheap travel deals fly fly domestically and save up to seventy five percent. You can even fly internationally and save even more. 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Jake crawford just excited to be back in cleveland calling the browns preseason football games and maybe overselling baker mayfield a little bit in the month of august but string of overselling. Are we doing that on the whole. Paul isn't the n._f._l. Trying to do that on the whole with this exhibition this garbage exhibition season that we've got that is preseason as a football you know we've heard talk of shifting to of those preseason games into the regular season. I don't think that that's a good idea. I think that the n._f._l. Has just got so much going on as far as symmetry goes. You'll see it's easy to figure out what the schedule is going to be. You know what you what what your team is. Scheduled is going to be for fourteen games going ahead. You know for a real long distance into the future. You know oh you're play. You'll in cleveland case this year. They're going to play four games against the n._f._c. west as they do every four years. They're gonna play away four games against believe. It's the a._f._c. east. They do play the patriots and the jets this season and i'm sure the bills and the dolphins as well so there's you know there's half your schedule right there the aligned with one team in your in your own conference or one division your own conference one division in the opposite conference yeah. You're <hes> you know three teams in your division times two games there that's six games fourteen games james just based on what division you plan then order affinity and you take those two straggling divisions within your own conference and if you finish thirty play the third place teams from the year prior you win. The division play division champs from the year prior scheduled balanced within the ranks of the division for the most part. Antonio gives teams with the if you know if you're a stay of worthless team name you know some of those fourth place teams. Just your plea all. You're gonna play the next year. They don't want to be in the basement anymore. Nobody wants to be in the basement. I shouldn't even say maybe but you don't need preseason to elevate your football team and the n._f._l. Owners don't need ten home needs ten full full price trump gates because for the veterans you'll even when you bring a new free agency. You know the whole timing thing. It's a little bit overrated. The veterans just know how to go out there and play the game. You know you gotta spend you know. Quarterbacks got to spend time with their centers against spend time with their running back. They get to spend time with their receivers. They spend time with the offense coordinator and they have to make sure that they're on the same page whether or not they spend time with with the head coach of that gets done in these games you watch on the n._f._l. Network and the the whip around coverage cajun me <hes> you know it's it's the preseason for the announcers too. So you get monday night football announcers. He gets sunday night. Football announcers sometimes thursday night announcers and sometimes you get thursday night announcers on the actual thursday. You could make the argument that the late round draft picks they. They need live rupp's but you know what the n._f._l. Should do and i. I'm going to sound crazy here. I know oh but they should expand it. This should expand the exhibition season two eight games and i would start it in june. Draft picks big like the summer league the senior bowl joe yeah. You have coaches the coaches representing every team to proctor things. Make sure everything goes smoothly in this league and you lose players to injury injury so be it great attitude day out but you know i think you have to weigh the collateral damage and and sometimes dismiss it and if you play a longer preseason game and what i'm talking about is expanding because i don't think the x._f._l. Is going to do very well. I think it's going to be a matter of financing but people aren't gonna watch not the n._f._l. People want. I mean other than college football. Are they going to drum up enough interest for football in the spring unless you're bringing a lot of n._f._l. Talent over because he will watch these guys. Don't make the n._f._l. You watch canadian football. You can watch arena football indoor football league. You know you don't have a european lee. You don't have a true developmental league so all these guys have to sit and rot on practice squads. Let's have a summer league. Let's start at the view of the week after the n._b._a. Finals end and we after game seven of the n._b._a. Finals the schedule federal and it's disrespectful to be julie baseball but major league baseball doesn't really try to capture anything their spring training. I i think beats the other exhibition seasons they gets the destination getaway. You know the preseason watch football. It's too hot out to watch football and i'm not just talking about neuronal where i come to you from sorry about the n._f._l. N._f._l. preseason here on this hour of sports overnight america jeff rich give me on twitter at jeff rich talks. Currently we've got four preseason games. Sixteen regular season games do not such that sixteen game regular season. Maybe maybe with six to play six games summer league whereas nobody you've ever heard of and they don't have to play in the home the home stadiums either go around the world. Go give you'll even if it's rookie. Talon undrafted free agent talent at that. Maybe that's when you go to you know. Win didn't do well when if they drop the wall all hosting the n._f._l. But go to montana and you play one of these you know you put these teams in montana in utah wyoming north dakota of them. Get away from summer everywhere else any other subject to being in the proverbial middle of nowhere you know don't don't put them in the n._f._l. Stadiums they played. You know these developmental leagues. You know play at montana state. Play at montana played <hes> north dakota state yeah. I can pack the house where these games anyway. Put them on the n._f._l. Network let us watch them have something of a minor league. It's like fall league in major league baseball that deal. That's entertaining enough. It's not about entertaining. It's it's about development. It's kind of like an all star. League is what it is and i think you do that for football. I think that you can expand expand the depth of your organization and the only question is is the n._f._l. Willing to take something like that on when college football provides that service to them for free the more that you hear about the desire for pay in college football the more. I think that you're going to get some type of minor league. She you not only exist but thrive for the n._f._l. They've got the you know. They've always got to do something to save face that that's a that's a universal versatile mission statement across sports. I'd get rid of the preseason altogether. I i don't need it. I don't need to give me my gimme my eight home games. If i'm a season ticket holder you need to see these guys in action have combined practices. Mrs don't put us under the illusion that there's anything special going on. That's <hes> that's worth the price of the full price of admission for a meaningless football game practice game a game where you're only concern is that nobody gets hurt. There should be an object. My name's jeff richards sports overnight america when we come back. We'll talk about the anti face of the franchise in major league baseball. Go anywhere we'll be right back. It makes an impact here for the very right back to david montgomery that style patient montgomerie the third round pick his head for in his first n._f._l. Touchdown this is sports overnight america. 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The most hated player is a member of the organization or a former member of the organization. Sometimes it's just the guy that just kicked your bud left and right in you know you think about about albert pools chicago. Cubs fans hate him. He played for the cardinals for a long time. He was a he was a starry. Probably beat the cubs from time to time do but i would say the cubs cubs least favorite favor players probably a guy like leander depending on how old you are. Maybe it's mark prior. Maybe it's dusty baker. They it should be dusty baker. I think it should be. I think they've had a lot of bad managers that have mismanaged talent there in chicago. You're already bank's never played a postseason game guy. We cardinals from that area that the era that you don't care for paul goldschmidt. I liked him a year ago when he was hitting home runs for the arizona diamondbacks goes saint louis cardinals. All bets are off man and being from cleveland. I've got bitter gene in me that i probably dislike players that played for and left my organization. My favorite organization asian not my personal organization my property or anything like that. I think the list they it's our bell <music>. Manny ramirez left for free agency. Somebody basketball to all the guy from akron colonel lebron james. He left by talking major league baseball here. We're talking about players that have have purchased. You'll like i'm a fan so i'm thinking like edgar. Renteria pardon me all right and they have a little technical difficulty but we'll keep going here on these sports. It's over night america program talking about faces that are disliked. I think with the new york yankees. Almost you know i in boston. It almost has to feel the same way is it alex. Rodriguez is a problem alex. Alex rodriguez is a smear on a lot of great history with the new york acheived. Fortunately he's not part of a championship run that was respected like the one at the end of the nineties and they didn't get one at the beginning of the two thousand. Let's they beat the mazzi into thousand subway series and they lose to the diamondbacks lose the marlins. They don't get back there till oh nine they win. It forgettable series over the philadelphia phillies. Nobody wants to give them credit for and you know well. It's been ten years since even that even back to the world series in ten years. That's that's far below expectations for the new york yankees. Alex rodriguez stuck around for far too long pedro martinez out pitched them johnny damon might eight of you know i mean that whole sequence in two thousand four it's shameful but it's shameful in the midst of a lot of success the boston red sox. It's still babe ruth for world series. Be damned your church ronald. Did you really think those moments. They were bested by the royals twice in the a._l. C._b._s. They stole roger clements from boston austin boston. You could argue. It's clemens goes to toronto wins. The cy young decides to start carrying again. Roger clements <hes> at least like athlete in a lot of cities or among them anyway and baltimore. It's probably somebody from like the sixty nine mets. That's probably the low point in baltimore history. I mean other than this current era where <hes> where they're winning about forty forty eight to fifty five games a year. Nobody likes to status the baltimore orioles baseball. It's just a nice little surrogate park for the yankees and red sox to play an additional nine or ten games every year. Tampa tampa lost a world series to the phillies but you know there's a lot of happy to be there with that. Maybe the maybe they don't like joe madden feel the joe madden walked out on them at the you know at a time that he may be shouldn't have if you're the angels. Maybe you've got a division. Rival lost to the red sox. You know the the pitcher. <hes> donnie moore committed suicide. I mean is it edgar. Renteria who in nineteen ninety seven is a couch worker who slaughtered you at twenty sixteen ben zobrist the m._v._p. That series is a greg maddux. John smoltz the other one maddix smoltz lavon tom glavin you really think about him that much anymore. Maddox you think of having the the maddox type of games for the record. I'm not mad at any of them or david justice upset with my team my players. I'm upset that <hes> you know we had to keep bouncing kenny lofton around major league baseball when he should have been a cleveland an indian is entire career. I'd say my nemesis for a long time would have been frank thomas the miguel cabrera after that tends to be those guys in the division that beat you don't like the dodgers. I don't like eighth year. I don't like that. There's the fan boys at chase field that you know the root for the a._s._u. Product but they're really rooting for los angeles dodger heck man. I'm happy as hell for cody bellinger any other team a million aside from maybe the yankees i i could really appreciate what he's doing is sometimes it's just the laundry and it is silly and people that aren't into sports. Don't get the loyalties you if you're the mets. Probably you probably just don't like the yankees can't like the phillies phillies can't like the the mats or the nats but i mean most hated ear among the washington asas fan base when you say that it's bryce harper more so than any division rival more so than any a saint louis cardinal that you know they beat them in a big comeback back in. I'm gonna get this year wrong but i wanna say twenty thirteen bed thinking that the nationals advanced in saint louis wins is game five and takes that division series the guy that beat. You're the guy that laugh do they. I think that that's that's a big question. Where does your angst thanks reside too. You know with the familiarity or with you know just the person that had denied you your dreams when you had to see andrew miller of your boss a red sox fan or toronto blue jays fan san andrew miller. Come out of that bullpen for cleveland. Was you know he was a force. Are there any rivalries out in west l. A. and the giants padres like the thing that they have a rivalry with l. a. ditto for the diamondbacks as mariners. I'm just trying to think where it's at as angels battle of california as angels doesn't care the same way to as giants dodgers and we're all says it in the mid west. I think the cubs got something brewing with the team for milwaukee just the same as they've had the rivalry with the cardinals for a long time but in the american league is that there can you get excited about minnesota and the white sox for automatic and you get i i i think the pittsburgh cincinnati trumps anything that the american league central could produce and then we'll get hung up on the on the new york boston philly new york toronto i i you know those are big metropolises but i don't think that there's a big rivalry e-e-eddie at hand there philadelphia probably likes getting their pound of flesh from the toronto blue jays in interleague play but you know that's even that has to be pretty minimal. You know i would say as an indians fan. Our biggest analysis would be justin. Verlander detroit won the division many years years with him and and now he's a member of the houston astros and still devastating to the indians in the play offs and the yankees just have a way of turning it on and i know that they have stated that they haven't been there in a long time. I think the big yankees biggest enemy is themselves they sometimes they they put money towards assets that aren't aren't <hes> the requisite amount of helpful for the money that gets put out and then they just eat it and everybody hates them for that and everybody hates the yankees except for fans of the new york yankees when we come back i talk a little bit about <hes> getting angry spite and <hes> how despite with dictate what my dreams are if i could write the book out right the scripture what happens in sports jeopardy sports overnight america will be right back all right bill that steve judges back circling a bit to the wall leaps he gets aw j._d. 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America <hes> talk a little bit about spite and <hes> perfectly guy with gas yelp. We guy you know if ever karma works punish me and it has punished me with johnny manziel being drafted in the first round by the cleveland football browns but yasser al ending up with the cleveland indians after i <hes> was outspoken about his temper with the los angeles dodgers and then the not one the two incidents with the reds technically one he was not with the reds anymore <hes> when he fought with the pirates the second time around but it's it's not a good look <hes> somebody was spiteful. Say i hope you he ends up on your team so you you could see you could criticize your own because i did. I criticized the guy allott air about these charitable. Things and you know i did hear that he was turning turning over leaf and cincinnati and i believe that to be true but the the the fighting too many incidents to be he is at the center of there's too many incidents and he's the big man i mean. He's the the face of the fight. Don't care for that care for joe flacco for a long time. I thought he was an overrated player. The denver broncos he's going to start and then he's a he's going to get a new contract. After this upcoming season and how pathetic would would it be the way that the way the ravens fans are talking about lamar jackson okay. I can't play quarterback in the national football league. I know the baltimore won the division. I know that they were more successful under jesse jackson than they were with a joe flacco a year ago. Joe flacco is able to move on and what if he has a back in cincinnati that would be one of my fa-. I originally said pittsburgh but i'll tell you i just want him to have the opportunity to go into baltimore twice. A year stock going to be with cleveland. They've been ben retires and the steelers still are better than the ravens. The ravens moved on from a guy that can help a lot of teams in in the national football league. What if joe flacco goes the bengals and sweeps the baltimore ravens and then those very bengals go like two and fourteen lizzy only two wins. You'll you'll see it where i division rivals the only team to hand a day and one their division rivals awasa and at that two losses for you don't see it very often where a team wins two games that are both against the same aim team even captured last year was san francisco they they want to games. They're both against the rams one of them the last game of the season i think that they were two and fourteen they might have been three in three and a three thirteen that season so the brown's <hes> ended up with the first pick that they used to take myles garrett. People don't like baker mayfield baker mayfield's walk around with a chip upon his shoulder. I think he's going to starting you know starting fights started conflict and then when everybody claps back you could you just you know put them on his list. Carry those kinds of chips on your shoulder. William baker mayfield urban meyer way what working urban meyer go if he goes back to coaching to get his pound flushes or a pound of flesh to be earned. I mean he's gotta be dabo sweeney urban meyer george attack. I mean neither could i now miami florida state flirts day would be a possibility. He can't be very well like their in tallahassee. Go give it all his time with the gators. I've heard u._s._c. ever to auburn auburn. Be kind of fun. You always come back for in the s._e._c. Knock <hes> saint nick office up pedal still there in tuscaloosa. How about the <hes> giants does it go beyond beating the dodgers they they were three time world champs and i think that at this point rather than rooting for the dodgers to make the playoffs i think that if you're a giants fan which rooting for the most this where the dodgers to fail i feel that way as an ohio state fan of pseudo ohio state fan my interest in a in that team has weaned seriously since <hes> trussell was out and then that eventually meyer was in. I i like to call them is jim that that's that's the that yeah. That's about from spite sometimes mark mark dantonio. I i got nothing but love mark mark dantonio there in east lansing lovey smith. You got the bears to the super bowl. I don't know what he can do with illinois. I don't know if if he was going to do it if it would be done already or if there is a future there we seem to like herm edwards here at arizona state. It's such as you root against the coach because you rooted against the higher. That happens a lot in college. Football player ron zook was online like three weeks after spurrier resigned and they made this underwhelming ire of this guy and it works and every every fire coach's name dot com website eventually works because nobody lives long enough to go away on their own terms. Even urban meyer feels a little bit sketchy. Get a feel bad if your michigan fan never never been argue the fourth the fourth inches play with j. T. barrett read a couple of years ago but in the ledger urban meyer never lost to michigan. If you're if you're michigan fan i mean. Do you want him to get to go somewhere where you can beat him. You want him back at ohio. State wanna do over these last five years. Get it i. I don't think even given another opportunity urban meyer. It goes to to wisconsin or michigan. Stay all michigan state. That'd be so much fun course he ohio state every year under those circumstances dances urban meyer gets that job at notre dame. Maybe brian kelly moves onto the n._f._l. Urban meyer continues to beat michigan at notre dame and i think that it would work out that way because that would become notre dame priority be michigan because it's early season game and then we think and then we think about the rest of the way and you know we gotta play navy. We got police stanford. Maybe we've laid purdue but you think about winning those games that the fans care about the most now the thing you can't get caught up in is not winning those games that you're expected to win none of the columbus blue jackets. They lose bobrovsky to florida. That's a team that feels like they've got. They add cup capabilities. I think that these departing players the blue jackets are more disliked than y'all player from the boston bruins and he player and there they all have very slap faces right the ruins chara chara seems like act of an athlete and they were they were good enough definitely to beat the club's blue jackets jackets is most recent offseason but the raptors that would be the most poetic thing raptors clippers. There's raptors win the finals and defend their title without kawhi leonard is quite leonard really you should he be the target of any angst there in chicago one year rental. He laughed after their rental period was up but he was the most quality rental player ever to exist in the n._b._a. Colli leonard over james harden your plan for spy your plan to get back at the box. You got two games. You want to get to the final so maybe you can run into the box. The favorites in the east kemba kemba is probably an upgraded to kyrie irving there in boston and brooklyn. I mean brooklyn's got revenge game against cleveland boston and and the golden state warriors if you don't think the golden state warriors are going to treat their game against their two games against brooklyn playoff games. I think you're mistaken. I don't think that you know the golden state warriors very well at all all about vengeance those guys are they wanted to sweep the cavs in seventeen after they lost their seventy three win regular regular season championship run means lot i i i'll bet you that even winning eighty eight of the next nine in the finals after they were defeated in two thousand sixteen games you the warriors had to get back even if they had to go out and get that she'd code there was kevin durant they had so they had to do that and and now they're now they could be angry with iran and lebron still because lebron maybe it you'll maybe lebron's departure denies them before pete. Maybe denies them five feet in the whole butterfly effect thing football. I mean the new england patriots they've accomplished as much as you can <hes> ever dream of accomplishing in the national football league. What are their fans want. I think their fans hands want a trip to the super bowl to play the giants and to beat them but you can't beat spag knoll at stray law and strahan and justin talk and david tyree v._d._i. Manny but he's not getting these negative the giants to the super bowl. Sometimes you run out of things to accomplish. That's why i like being a browns fan man. You really start at the bottom rung win a game in pittsburgh. Don't get swept by any of your division rivals. Go out there and sweep some teams. Go out there and sweep the n._f._c. interconference opponents that you're playing so many things that you could do out of spite simply by winning. You're winning equal your spite. He don't have the talent. You don't have the horses e you just don't have the horses and you're gonna take your lumps and maybe you <hes> take you grow from them. Spite is a good thing to fuel you but <hes> you know actual talent in actual motivation is so so much better urban meyer anything to prove but you know if he wants to get a pound of flesh from michigan from florida from utah wherever wherever he has to go he can do just that all right. That's gonna do it for this segment here on sports overnight america when we come back. We'll wrap up the our minds jeff rich rich. This is sports overnight america. We handled the right way art in our penniless. There's gonna be down that road. 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Most exciting coach is best programs. They'll have that bulls eye on their back and you know if you the obvious ones and nick saban at alabama bella chicken brady with new england the new york yankees just because of the brand that they carry but you you know when you're on your mouth baker mayfield. That's player that <hes> you know is going to maybe catch an extra hit. Maybe <hes> maybe out of frustration. Maybe maybe that's part of baker. Mayfield's plan is to carry that target gio. Serena wears tiger woods whereas it regardless. They're the best in the field or not. They've definitely earned those stripes dad. You are the one that they go after yes. Galp league is kind of earn those chevrons there in major league baseball. He's the lightning rod you wanna start a frocks with the cleveland cleveland indians you do it through number sixty six at the quarterback after the play. That's a good way defensive player onto. 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Ruling changes how the president is elected and florida democrats for a special session vote on guns those stories and more coming up it just got a bit more likely that the next election and we'll be decided by a single vote electoral college we get the story from suzanne partner of judge in the ninth circuit decided that states cannot replace or punish a so called faithless elector. Even if it's one of thirty states that requires delegates to support the candidate who got the most votes in that state john khoza from the group national popular vote says there were seven electors who went against their party's wishes in twenty sixteen but i can assure you in two thousand twenty both parties are going to be super diligent at nominating only presidential presidential electors that they absolutely no will support the party's nominee critics have winner. 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If we're talking about hunting i don't see value in having a gun that could shoot off one hundred rounds three fifths of the g._o._p. Controlled legislature would have to agree to have a special session and and so far senate president bill galvano and house speaker. Jose alava rejected the call. Noting lawmakers will be in tallahassee for committee weeks in september through december december with the regular lawmaking session beginning in january. That was trauma gomez reporting. This is p. n._s. I knew analysis shows that new england could be hard hit at the trump administration's new endangered species act regulations go into effect. Jen stanley has more amy d'al-aqsa climate. Emma change expert at defenders of wildlife. She says the new regulations could have a devastating effect. New england which is one of the fastest warming regions in the contiguous united states how how cold it gets in the winter is the chief factor for a lot of tree and plant species. 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We've got a big big big big big big big show out in front of us today including major league baseball pennant races including college football but we're going to give a little bit of a long leash to the exhibition season the preseason and the national football because some starters were starting to play. Some starters got hurt. Tom brady makes his first appearance. There was weirdness in canada as they played a game up in winnipeg ended that being played on an eighty yard field and all kinds of things that were going on in the world of professional football so we've got that out in front of us again. The pennant races we'll talk about battle continues to tighten up while cart races are very interesting and they'll central. It's going back and forth between the cardinals and the cubs trading places as far as i place goes on day in day out basis surtees starting to fade certain teams are hanging in there and we'll get to all of it as we go forward. 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At one eight hundred eight seven eight one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine so re telephone number of the attack national football league full swing yesterday giants on the road food in their third exhibition game and and nothing really has changed. Eli manning played looks pretty good percentage wise the only through fifty percent but he led the team down the field on the first drive kick the field goal. Daniel jones came in continued to show and show well nine out of eleven two hundred forty one yards and then after that it was scrubby anytime as guys who are going to be driving trucks and look for work in a week or two. We're we're playing and hoping to catch the attention of one of the coaches which was the same in every single football game that was involved in a national football league. I'm bob black. He scott cutty and twenty five five twenty three to score a relevant. Everybody stayed relatively healthy. Giants passing attack was not too bad nineteen to thirty two two hundred sixty seven yards. They didn't try to stretch the field very well. They weren't showing off a lot of the place that they might use cincinnati at a very vanilla defense however they did get up after the quarterback back a little bit couple of sacks three for seventeen yards. I guess if you're going to take anything away from this particular drive this particular game. Excuse me was the fact that we had a whole a whole thing of pressure from the giants. Hey it's defense which is something that they've been worried about five sacks of ryan finley and the lega dollah salleh excuse excuse me for total twenty eight yards kept pressure. Album cincinnati's gonna be pretty average football team. I think i think probably to below average a lot of that is going to depend upon whether or not a j. green makes it back onto the football field and how soon soon that happens. I would imagine that the bengals are going to err on the side of caution. They have hard decisions to make after this season. They're going to have to get a full slate of play out of andrew andy dalton and decide whether or not he's their quarterback going forward. He's you know he's one of those guys. He's just solid he. He's thirty one years old but i'm not sure you can put it on his shoulders olders and have him lead your team to a superbowl. He'll get you to the playoffs. He's again a very solid quarterback but is it time for cincinnati to move on and start rebuilding with one of the guys in the draft probably probably so marvin lewis. If marvin lewis was still the head football coach we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Marvin lewis in the bengal hierarchy would be completely loyal to andy dalton but with a new coach coming in. I don't know that that's going to be the case. I mean you go back to last year stats where he was again. Solid it twenty six hundred yards which has nothing to write home about but twenty one touchdowns sounds eleven interceptions. He was careful with the football. He did what they asked him to do. Cincinnati was destroyed roy bhai injuries last year. Their offensive line was terrible to running back through. We'll beat up and their defense was horrible but i can you put that on andy dalton alta but football football fans being what they are they did and said you can't win with this guy so i think it becomes problematic for dalton because you have a new regime in there and i think if they have a bad year which i'm pretty sure they're going the have it's gonna get dumped on andy dalton shoulders fair or not for the giants. There's no real quarterback controversy diversey. The thing that you have to be optimistic about is that daniel jones after having a couple of ball security problems last last week did exactly what the giants have been very happy with over the course of what's been going on in his exhibition season is that he doesn't repeat the same mistakes he has shown very good touch on the football and for anybody who watched him play in college college and said that his arm strength was just adequate boy. You don't know what you're talking about. You know he doesn't have a cannon. It's it's it's it's not that kind of arm but it's comparable to what allies played with his entire career in the national football league it certainly comparable pro bowl to other players who are more than adequate at the quarterback position in this league and daniel anal. Jones is their future now. Is he going to be a great quarterback. Hell i have no idea but they drafted for smarts. They drafted for his ability to read the field and control the game and he's been pinpoint accurate throughout this entire exhibition season. He was nine of eleven last night again. Dan against the second unit and everything's going to speed up. Come opening day but it's it's they dare in in pretty good shape as far as the quarterback position those now will they have enough skill position players at the wide receiver probably not will the large able to protect him. Yeah probably it's going to be better and we haven't seen saquon and that's going to figure into the mix as well well. They've got to get through those first four games two to the giants and and they're they're. They're going to be a contender but they'll be okay the rest of the season. They'll get golden date back. Who's going to be suspended and it's going to be receiver by committee whether that's enough to get eight players. Here is out of the box remains to be seen but you know i look at it it. It giant are going to be as bad as everybody thinks you're going to be. Let me let me say that. You know you look at the rest of the schedule patriots who got stunned. I mean by the well that's done under the d. League was made aware by of what was going on with patrick chung and his celani cocaine possession but new england. You got into the mix yesterday and played their quarterback so that's always good tom. Brady hit the field and played a little bit twelve taps eight of twelve seventy five yards and jason statham who has looked really really good as the backup and may end up being the primary back up to new england depending on whether or not they want to keep three quarterbacks to quarterbacks ten three victory nothing to write home all about except for the fact that cam newton injured his ankle. He was in a walking boot. After the game. They took him out on a cart and he did not look look comfortable on the field. I mean that was before. He got hurt. Throwing motion did not look good. He did not run the football at at all which i'm sure you he was under strict orders not to take it in that direction and this is a team. I'm really worried about as a national football. League watcher is cam newton because you can talk christian mccaffrey. All you want as cam goes. This team does and eh cam is not ready to answer the bell on opening night. This is not going to be a good year for the carolina panthers and ron rivera in particular data rough year last year. They have new ownership firmly in place now. They're in a very tough division and i don't know the carolina and ron rivera are gory to survive this so we're going to see we're going to spill onto the other side with national football league talked before we get to major league baseball pennant races but just you know some of the things i observed and we'll give you a few takeaways on the other side some teams holding holding out their starters. 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He's got cutting off the san francisco making sure it stays on the air plenty to talk about in the world exhibition football again. The games really don't matter would do but i look at it and you try to get some takeaways seasons starting to get closer. You have teams with different philosophy of teams that are playing some of their starters as you go into week three which is the tradition of other teams mostly. It was younger coaches that are not playing their starters at all and trying to hold them out. Starters got played as we talked about in the patriot panther game brady looked fine cam did not and that's the takeaway out of that football game ravens twenty-six fifteen over the eagles eagles. They're playing as vanilla la as you could possibly play. They have barely scratched the surface with their starters yet again. Carson in west didn't play. It looks like he's not going to play in the exhibition season. Josh mccown who came out of retirement after stepping out after this previous season with the jets its was signed by the eagles just because of the fact that their quarterback situation is not good a bunch of guys who nicked up and i don't think they're completely comfortable with cody kessler backup being a backup. I have a feeling he's going to be looking for another job at the end of training camp but <hes> the story was really on the other side of the field jackson didn't play for baltimore two more and trace mcsorley who quite frankly i didn't think had a chance of playing quarterback in the national football league with the baltimore ravens and actually fits into their system and what i mean by that is this they have tailored their offense to accommodate their starting quarterback who who makes plays with his legs. I arm second. They're hoping that will modify somewhere down the line particularly this year where arm play he comes into passion more the leg play for lamar jackson but what they've done which i think is very very smart on the part of their organization they kept g three signed and he does point to his career is a backup but at least a legitimately mobile backup and there's nobody on the roster callahan's a journeyman but who's a traditional dropback pocket passer. They don't wadham they don't need they're not going to alter their style of offense to accommodate a pocket passer so what they did was they brought in the amazingly the athlete trace mcsorley who's a bit undersized at the quarterback position and doesn't have a cannon for an arm. I mean he's six foot. Two hundred under two pounds a good stiff breeze will blow over but you look at it. He is mobile within the pocket. He's not afraid to tuck and run. He has a good enough arm. We can get the ball decently downfield. I mean hell they had him returning punts and kicks at the opening of training camp and it looks like at least to start the season. He's going to be the primary backup lamar jackson and he was good last night. I watched a pretty decent chunk of this game. He was he was nineteen. Twenty eight two hundred and three yards two touchdowns no interceptions and the philadelphia defense did throw some stuff at him so it was out there and i was impressed by what i saw because like i said i didn't even think this guy had a chance to really stick in the leak just because of the fact that okay your athletic or whatever but if you can't do anything in return punts kicks can't be a wide receiver can't be running back. Chances are pretty good. You're not gonna make the team not. In this day and age well he can play quarterback at least as a backup for the eagles eagles. I look i do think they're going to win their division and we'll get into more of that next week but i don't like what i'm seeing at at his football team and granted. I know they're playing vanilla and all the stuff but i'm not. I'm not a big fan of what i'm seeing with this football team just yet. I mean they're going to be good on defense. I don't know that they're going to be great. They're going to be solid with the offensive line but i don't know that it's gonna be great. Maybe maybe jeeze. Maybe this is the jason peters for extent. What are they gonna get out to sean jackson with. His homecoming is jordan howard going to be the bell oh cowboy running back that they think he can be. They have depth. I'll give them that jordan howard mile sanders and corey clement in the running back position. I mean i like jordan. Howard is running back. I really do but you haven't seen him. All year and i don't know i again for somebody who follows the n._f._c. division closely because of the fact my giants play in the same division. I ah i mean on paper. I think that the eagle should easily win the division all due respect to cowboy fans. Oh wait. I don't have any respect for cowboy fence because i i think dallas is going to struggle and less they get it done with zeke comes in to camp but that's a discussion russian for a different day i just i i wonder i really do but we i guess we'll find out but i like the way the ravens look. I think they're going to be pretty good. There's there's more there's more video on lamar jackson so maybe that'll slow down to regular season season but <hes> baltimore's committed man baltimore's committed and they have a very good coach john harbaugh raiders took care of the packers in winnipeg twenty two twenty one you know winning means nothing in the exhibition season unless unless you're really really bad football team the year before and this was played on an eighty yard football field because of the fact that the goalpost in the canadian football league were which are really recessed they were trying to move them up on the field and they had issues with it something happened and it tore the field up the caused issues and all this kind of neat stuff and so the airplane on an eighty yard field alternating kicks and things along those lines a story line here nothing really much to write home about green bay didn't play any and many if any of their starters and nathan peterman was really the only we storyline twenty three to thirty seven hundred ten yards two touchdowns john gruden's try to try to figure out who the backup quarterback is going to be for the oakland raiders to derek carr. Mike glennon got in nine attempts four completions thirty eight yards but they gave the bulk of the work to the peterman because i think the onus is on him to prove that he belongs in the national football league. I don't particularly think he does jon. Gruden seems to like him. I don't think he's gonna a beat out. Mike glennon and that's really the only storyline there was no antonio brown nonsense going on he actually showed up for the game although he didn't play and he's going to be another one will be held out the entire preseason and he's going to get all his work done in camp and hopefully he can hit hit the ground running with his frostbitten feet going forward so we'll see we'll see we'll see again like i said different. Coaches are taking different approaches when it comes to this ryan fitzpatrick started for the dolphins was effective took the back out of an early whole because they were down seven six at halftime but josh rosen played really well. He got the ball at his one yard. Line took him on a ninety nine yard drive to put the dolphins into the lead and ended up winning the football game twenty two seven look. The dolphins aren't going to be very good but their storyline in preseason and going into the regular season is going to be quarterback is going to end up playing the majority of snaps in this particular league season now. I think that it needs to be josh rosen because of the fact you need to find out what you have there but the reality is that you have to go with the best player because this is the this professionals they wanna win football games. I think deep inside the dolphins no they're not going to be a particularly good football team but the reality is is that you guys you guys playing for paychecks at future paychecks on this game and they're not going to get involved in tanking situation. This isn't basketball. They're going to be bad. Everybody knows that but you know you need to show something and they need to find out whether or not come next year's n._f._l. Draft whether or not they need to draft a quarterback or josh. Rosen is going to be there guy going forward. You know they got him out of second round. Pick so i mean value is the fact that he's operating on a rookie contract. Fitzpatrick fitzpatrick may start the regular season but he's gonna have to yield and if florez and gra- granted you have to win but if florida's is really wanting to find out what his future is a head football coach is going to be these are the tough decisions that he's gonna have to make going forward and i think the early one and the toughest one is going to be deciding to put josh rosen in that line lineup and when it happens whether it's from jump street or whether or not it's a few games in because they can't afford to not play the sky all right. Let's step out right now. 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The first one happened and then they came back after the sixth inning played a little while longer than the storms ormes really started blowing past and radar indicated it was going to go on for the better portion of the night so they called the game after eight innings it was you know quasi complete league game and took care of their business to sweep the indians three nothing so as we talked about yesterday one of the tougher parts of their schedule schedule because they get the cleveland indians the atlanta braves and then chicago cubs coming in a nice job. I can't argue with it. Three wins against cleveland. Linden finished up their road trip on a really lousy note and noah syndergaard only giving up two hits and in the bullpen picked up the slack after that familiar was good at his inning and palsy walled was good his inning as well with two strikeouts. The mets are stay away from d. As he is is no longer there closer. They're doing it by committee to try to pick their spots with him because he'll give you a two thirds of an inning and implode or implode right off the bat that he just doesn't have it right now. He still has his stuff but he has absolutely zero idea where it's going. This didn't help cleveland in in any way shape or form there are now three and a half games back of the minnesota twins but they are in control of the wild card right now not the way they wanted to finish up their road trip trip and the mets will welcome in atlanta starting tonight and go from there so we're going to see if they can continue to make hey they have a nine nine-game homestand auto three and start so just keep keep the pedal to the metal and if you're a met fan you should in theory be okay now. Other games around red sox are trying to keep their head above water. They beat the royals last night five four. It's just it's just not their year. Their game was suspended by rain as well. Giants lose to the cubs won. Nothing very nicely pitch game by both sides giants continuing their lack of offense which has been their achilles heel all year cubs didn't hit much either but they got pitching and kendricks went seven innings three hits. No earned runs owns bullpen picked up the slack for change. They were good so that worked out for them. <hes> like i said saint louis and the cubs trading first-place position back and forth the trick right now for the nationals and the mets is just staying close and the nationals did that taking care of their visit seven and one over the pirates you know the formulas really simple for any team. That's in contention right now. Beat up on the poor sisters and hold is your own against the teams that are good may need to do it. After teams that have had to make up ground. You gotta do a little better than that and mets did that. Add nationals beat up sisters of the poor and egg and we'll see how it plays out braves beat the marlins three two two cardinals dell's took care of their business beat. The rockies six to five cardinals never go away never go away and they were down in this game early. They were down five to going into sixth inning back to back to spots made it up and bullpen bullpen took care of their business going forward. Marquez didn't have a good night but al monte pick up. The slack. Johnson closed it. I'm sorry other way around. Martinez closed and cardinals did enough to get it done which is their bullpen is struggled quite a bit this year to again. Pennant races are good. There's there's a lot going on right now astros and if you finally bet the astros to win a game against the tigers got your money last night because the odds were still long i again i just i don't bet baseball. I just don't do it but the books made out real well because a lot of people took the big unders on tires but last night i asked her took care of their business. White sox beat the rangers under six one athletic swept the yankees five three and the dodgers swept the blue jays three to dodgers ashes in the yankees beat this weekend interleague play late in the year but they're gonna play the yankees and in what could be a match i chop of the world series yankees around there west coast swing and they figured little interleague while they were out. There wasn't going to be a bad thing so go from oakland down to l. a. and they play the dodgers this weekend. It's going to be a prime time game on saturday night on saturday during the down fox so keep an eye out this one you might wanna check out over the course of the weekend just to find out where the yankee stabbed because they're pitching has has been very very inconsistent and i don't know if they're going to be able to match up dodgers actress playing great ball right now as the yankees but it's it's. I am going to find it an interesting scenario going forward. You've got college football and we'll we'll get into it. I'm not going to preview the games hard core as such but what one of the premier matchups because you have a brand new football coach indiana's in miami but florida who was ranked number eight going into the season is gonna match-up against miami in gainesville all kinds of optimism in miami now margaret stepped the side and many as the new head football coach and renewed optimism with florida because florida played really well last year but they're going to have to get out of the east which means going through georgia and going through a good vanderbilt team and i'm gonna be very curious to see what direction this florida team takes because there notoriously impatient in gainesville. They got spoiled by urban meyer. Tim tebow and the team has not been in quite as good sense so long as nick sabin is is coaching in the s._e._c. It's going to be difficult for any programmed grabbed. Step forward in that conference. It's been that way since he got there and it's going to remain that way until he steps aside and this year don't forget forget alabama's gonna be playing with a bit of a chip on their shoulder last five years. They've been ranked number one going into the season this year. They weren't for the first time in a long time. Clemson got that distinction and cleansing won the national championship and many any people in college football believed that the torch has been passed to dabo sweeney and they are the preeminent program in n._c. Double a. football well as we would say not so fast. You never count out saving. We'll have to see what happens up. In ohio in columbus with the buckeyes is as they passed the torch away from urban meyer and there's always other contenders around the country you know with the playoff system being what it is as you never know. Alabama's quarterback got the starting nod in oklahoma so they're going to be going with with with jalen hurts and there's all kinds of story lines abounding and we talked about that match up later on the week. There's some thursday night games u._c._f. Who hopefully fleet answered their quarterback. Issue goes up against florida. Am no quitting kevin you got clemson opening up against georgia tech johnson no longer the coach so they're in complete transition and we'll see what they're able to do. I have a feeling we're gonna plummet right back back down and not be a particularly good program any longer but it is conference so it does matter and gets it's necessary. Roughness texas state you got utah who's ranked number fourteen against b._y._u. We'll see how representative b._y._u. Who is and then friday. You'll have michigan state against tulsa and you'll have wisconsin again. South florida saturday slate is going to be a full slate. All the heavy duty guys will get their preview all of that as we go later later into the week but you know you look at it. They're so good storylines. You've got in theory a ton of n._f._l. Caliber quarterbacks coming out whether it's fields with georgia whether it's to whether it's the kit out in oregon. All these guys going to be heavily scrutinized. It's a huge wide receiver draft. There's a lot of depth at the receiver position. Big guys small guys fast guys. Is that really matter. Judy for alabama is the consensus number one overall prospect in college football even in higher than the quarterbacks so again for some of these bottom feeders in the national football league. You're gonna have to figure out who your quarterback is and then go from there and if you end up having a franchise quarterback somebody that you perceive as a franchise quarterback you might end up drafting that wide receiver in the number one one position if you should be so lucky enough to end up with that draft pick so we're going to say i let step out right now. When we wrap it up here the tax about black t. scott cutting the goal he stays there was another word behind. Not that's something to do with what your dog does. When you're in the morning it and i'll see what i sent two weeks ago pretty sure you can't find a roll of toilet paper. The city without going out about fifteen miles out of town because tumors corner is gonna be desert. This is sports overnight america if you or a loved one is suffering from physical or emotional condition that has left you unable to work then listen carefully. Take this number down eight hundred five nine three seven four four nine one. 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That's eight hundred nine three two fifty five seventeen seventeen now more of the sports attack with bob black here on sports overnight overnight america back heading out the door here. We'll be jury weekend. Play safe layoff. Kinda mcgregor still news news. I guys just an antisocial tool. I mean he really is and shame on e._s._p._n. And i understand they have to due to a certain point because of the fact they sell mixed martial arts on the network and like them or not conor mcgregor is the biggest name in mixed martial arts and he's been in retirement than he's out of retirement that he's back in retirement. He's out of retirement that he's in jail and he's not in jail the video of him a._m. Punching the old guy or relatively old guy in a dublin bar. It just showed how stupid this guy is. I mean he really is you've you've seen stuff with him beating up the boss and going back and forth and he just he's not that bright he really isn't is an antisocial idiot and and evidently when you throw alcohol into the mix as well he becomes a raging idiot and i went on e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. and he did the apology thing and said how watching video of him punching the older guy is a dagger into his heart and and he is now come clean and took full responsibility for the unacceptable behavior but the reality is is that it it this is just a constant with him and i mean at least to a certain point. He has a vehicle to unleash his inner rage agent being evolved in mixed martial arts but you know anybody who's studied martial arts. We'll tell you it. It's supposed to be a controlled sites rides. You do things in the rain. Do things in the doj and that's one thing but you take it outside and you can't live your life beating the crap out of people so i. I've got really issues with this. I hope that they don't give him any more platforms but the problem is is that it becomes out of retirement. They're going take all right. That's it for the attack. Hope you enjoyed it. Thanks to scott. Thank you for coming on board. Make sure you stay tuned for all the programming here in the network and we'll talk again in seventy two hours. I'm bob black ever-greater. Everybody you're listening to the heartland. News feed ready nip work at live dot hotline newsfeed dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by you. Follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's welcome to the public news service daily newscasts for friday august twenty third twenty nineteen eighteen. I'm mary sherman. A federal court. Ruling changes how the president is elected and florida democrats for a special session vote on guns those stories and more coming up. It just got a bit more likely that the next election will be decided by a single vote electoral college. We get the story from suzanne. Potter honor of judge in the ninth circuit decided that states cannot replace or punish a so-called faithless elector. Even if it's one of thirty states that requires delegates to support the candidate date who got the most votes in that state john khoza from the group national popular vote says there were seven electors who went against their party's wishes in twenty sixteen but i can assure you in two two thousand twenty both parties are going to be super diligent at nominating only presidential electors that they absolutely no will support the party's nominee critics addicts have winner. Take all laws argue that it's unfair to require electors to respect majority rule especially when a candidate loses by a very thin margin in a given state then forfeits all all of that state's electoral votes khoza says the case is likely to be appealed to the u._s. 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We've got to do things that were really curtailed tailed the use of firearms particularly in inner cities. If we're talking about hunting i don't see value in having a gun that could shoot off one hundred rounds three fifths of the g._o._p. Controlled legislature would have to agree to have a special session and so far senate president bill galvano and house speaker jose alita rejected did the call noting lawmakers will be integra hassi for committee weeks in september through december with the regular lawmaking session beginning in january that was trauma gums homes reporting. This is p. n._s. I knew analysis shows that new england could be hard hit at the trump administration's new endangered species act regulations regulations go into effect. Jan stanley has more amy d'al-aqsa climate change expert at defenders of wildlife. She says the new regulations could have a devastating effect effect in new england which is one of the fastest warming regions in the contiguous united states. How cold it gets in the winter is the chief factor for a lot of tree and plant species. You could definitely be seeing some of those cold loving species like sugar maple spruce and being. I pushed out by less cold tolerance orange the environmental group doing six others this week in suing the administration over the proposed rules delack says states can still enact protections where the federal government won't the largest ever global study of its kind found that even at low levels of exposure air pollution can increase the risk of early death from cardiovascular and respiratory disease jesse bonda with the hoosier environmental council in indiana says the findings confirm the need to continue to pursue policies that will improve air quality money while particularly levels have been reduced over time. There's still pretty problematic. It is these really micro particularly that can lodge very deep into people's people's lungs and those can be quite damaging. 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The tech giant's will also provide other call blocking and call labeling for those customers who want more screening tools. I'm mary sherman four public news service member an listener supported and online at public news service dot o._r._g. Radio talk shows still around. Usually you call up a talk show. They ask what you want to talk about and they say now. We're talking about this. You can talk about this but not that. Well free talk. Live is different. You choose a topic topic. You control the show and keep a claim because we are on a whole mess of real radio stations and the f._c._c. gets. It's all crazy of somebody. Drops an f. bomber an s. bom or any matter of bombs elsa get crazy if you used their emergency alert tones without their permission we can talk about that later. If you want absolutely that's pretty crazy and the we were referring to is myself chris. Hey i'm in and i'm nobody we have had a interesting news cycle. Say i did the show last night which i usually don't do but you wake up to some headlines and it's just kinda like wow did did the world take. It's crazy pills last night or not hot and one of the stories that that i brought in for yesterday i didn't get around to it but then he and brought it into says we have the same one exactly exactly yeah. That's definitely a that's. That's an indicator that we should probably talk about this and and yeah as he and mentioned man there are certain things you can't say on the radio and you can't make certain sounds like an. I'm trying to get a fine when the emergency broadcast warnings come up. They have that tone and the f._c._c. has more unpleasant than the one you did though i don't think they can find you over that. I'm sure i could make a highly unpleasant tone but the f._c._c. felt that some people did it too well in the course of the day and find six six hundred thousand dollars in penalties for false emergency alerts my god on thursday the federal communications commission reached a handful of settlements settlements with media outlets. These people agreed that well. We'll pay this unbelievable following investigations into whether they misused the the emergency alert system tone my gosh i bet i did. I did miss use it. I i'm gonna i didn't represent it as being the actual tone but i went well. I don't think it was representatives. Being the actual tone a walking dead. I can comment on the walking walking dead. I have five. I follow that particular program right now. I don't follow jimmy came alive so i don't know what the context. I don't know if the article gets into it either but i don't know what skit it was used in there. I suspect it was a skit or something like that but well the case of the walking dead. It's a fictional television program about as zombie invasion about about an zombie outbreak so really it was tone. Special is that does that tone trigger automated devices devices as near as i can tell it triggers zombies but as far as i can tell it triggers the f._c._c. yeah. I'm not sure you're a little bit about this having worked in the industry for a long time. They had these boxes that sit in racks in studios <hes>. I think they're called called the end deck e. n. d. e. c. If i recall correctly interesting <hes> it's i'm sure it's an acronym for something anyway it monitors some frequency that <hes> <hes> essentially the f._c._c. uses kind of like a daisy chain situation fido net from back in the day in some ways <hes> for those that don't know anyway <hes> the idea is one radio station plays the tones and then it plays whatever the messages that follow the tones whether it's this is just a test or there's an actual emergency <hes> <hes> and then the sister stations or substations already going to call them the stations that are monitoring that frequency their boxes pick that up and then they relate l._a. That on the air they basically break in over top of whatever's on the arizona doesn't matter what you're doing matter if your mics open you're playing a song or whatever it just breaks over overtop of it and <hes> and it plays that back and then so anybody that's monitoring your frequency for that will pick up from that and so on and so forth that's as i understand how that that system works so it playing on jimmy kimmel or on the walking dead may be on jimmy kimmel because there you're talking about an a._b._c. television in program broadcast stations yeah is probably being aired by mostly broadcast television stations whereas the walking dead is a cable network right program and by the way kimmel was hit with three hundred ninety five thousand dollar finds. The six hundred thousand number that you cited was the total right in the walking dead was hit for one hundred and four thousand dollars. So why the discrepancy maybe that's because kimmel's on a._b._c. you know and and there are stations at may man may get triggered by something like that and then sorry every time you say they might have triggered by that politically correct in this case literally back triggering a machine to take over the airwaves and playback. Whatever kimmel skit was maybe that actually could have occurred but certainly could not have as i understand it with the walking dead. I don't i've never i mean i'm not a big t._v. Watcher i don't have it right and i haven't since i moved out of my parent's house but i've never seen an emergency alert tests on a cable system. I trying to think on a cable channel or on the broadcast channels that you were watching over cable. Oh i see what you're saying. I don't know how m._t._v. you don't see it on where you don't see music videos yeah. That's true yeah but yeah so. I think that's what we're talking about here here is i think it's ridiculous that the f._c._c. can fine a fictional show that doesn't even broadcast over the airwaves. It's it's a cable network. Program american movie classics. I think is what a._m._c. stands for. That is a cable network now. That doesn't mean the f._c._c. doesn't regulate cable network so i mean i'm not ultimately to surprised that they can get away with this right but the regulations aren't quite as stringent on on cable. That's why the south park for instance has been saying the s bomb on the air for years and you will not hear that likely on whatever shows are broadcast broadcast n._y._p._d. Blue or that's the last time i paid attention to broadcast television i actually i think the s. word has <hes> has mainstreamed even more than that. I think they can play that south park over airway sure i can't believe that because because you'll still get find on broadcast radio for that okay and so you will definitely get fined broadcast television for that well. It's interesting though because i think it was n._y._p._d. Blue <hes> that was the cop show that was on that sort of it made its name for itself by kind of pushing the boundaries in what was allowed. I remember there was some story about them saying something that had never been said on broadcast t._v. Before and i would love to be ov that was because i didn't see as i recall that was the s. word and the south park episode that used the s. word like one hundred hundred and thirty two times or something was all about that episode of n._y._p._d. Blue interesting and so it was kind of a kind of a a parody and i believe that over use of the word <hes> brought forth the demons of standards rendered and practices gotch is what happened which is what networks call. The sensors is standards imprac. You can't call him sensors that that sounds like they're. They're censoring people but they are. They're standardizing and practicing well. I don't i don't have the wording in front of me but i think the standards heard our community you know sort of what would offend yeah given community and you may be right here. Rich looks like n._y._p._d. Blue did say the s word at least according to a reddit thread where people are talking about this. <hes> the the headline is when did the s. word stopped being censored and then there's a lot of chatter about this. They say that it was actually apparently south park. That was making fun of that episode of n._y._p._d. Blue that's what somebody claims here. I claim that too. I think i would say say the s word. 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Hey and nobody and we've been talking about these f._c._c. fines. This comes to us from the verge on thursday. The federal communications commission reached a handful of settlements with media outlets following investigations into whether they misused the emergency alert tone. The agency found that a._b._c.'s jimmy came alive. A._m._c.'s the walking dead animal planet's lone star law and mom morello. Oh radio holdings all misuse the emergency alert system e._a. Ass tone a sound that is blasted out of televisions and and smartphones to warn people of emergencies like tornadoes floods and missing children. The company have companies have agreed to pay a total of six hundred thousand thousand dollars in civil penalties foundered interesting that some shows paid more than others yeah. Jimmy kimmel apparently was the big one with three hundred ninety five thousand thousand dollars according to deadline dot com and then one hundred four thousand four with the walking dead. <hes> lonestar loss fined sixty eight thousand thousand for last year's airing of an actual w e._a. Signal that was caught on crew members phones as they were filming now and that is not intentional channel it was not intended to these are grandma these mistakes you take you're going to have to intentionally sign that check unless you want to go ahead and fight the f._c._c. in in court and that's gonna cost you more more than sixty eight grand in attorneys fees well and what radio station is or t._v. Station is going to take on the f._c._c. knowing that that that is their livelihood none of them yeah now. This was not a radio station. It was lonestar law which is some kind of television shows television show. I i think they pursue. I think it's game wardens basically in texas. They're they're worthy. <hes> this radio station group though that you mentioned morello radio holdings owns k. d. okay why a._m. And f._m. And they were fined and i think i think that's fargo i. I haven't checked <hes> was fined sixty seven thousand dollars for simulating an e._s. attention signal in a promotion for its morning show so the morning show host warning zoo yeah you're eric dill boras wake up fast or whatever they call the jimmy. The internal be out in a cow suit. The f._c._c. has a rule against using the town outside of actual emergencies to quote protect the integrity unquote of the system. That's why can't have it on your morning zoo. Show that way. Listeners aren't confused when there's an actual emergency that warrants the alert alert. You think the f._c._c. could also find you if let's say you took the emergency alert tone and put that as your ringtone on your phone so every time your phone rings it. It's the the emergency alert tone. We're gonna find out right after the show quote. We remain go to like f._c._c. Headquarters and all colleagues the quote. We remain concerned about the misuse of the a._s. Codes and e._a._s. and w. e. a. attention signals signals or simulations thereof to capture audiences attention during advertisements dramatic entertainment or and educational national programs and at any other time that there is no genu wine alert on quote the agency enforcements bureau asset in a statement the f._c._c. may issue sanctions mercer such violations including but not limited to monetary forfeiture church. I think that you know this. Is this whole idea of the f._c._c. Can just issue a sanction to you. I don't think that necessarily means you have an obligation to pay. Hey them right like just like anybody can send you a bill and say hey you owe me for this. Well you can come back and say and i think jay kind of touched on some of this last last night. You have the right to come back to somebody who send you a bill and says well. I'd like to see the contract please. You're saying i owe you this monday. I'm sorry i honestly i mean if i if i said i was gonna pay you for. It's something you did than i definitely want to do that but i got to see proof that we have some kind of agreement because i don't remember you. Tell me you're going to pay my driveway right. I think a licensed uh-huh radio show or a licensed radio station. I think they're going to be able to find that. Cheyenne shaya contract the station. Yes i agree with you there because the station has asked permission to exist but the producers of the walking dead as i understand ended they don't have to go. It's a private you know cable television produced program. They didn't have to go to the f._c._c. and get some sort of a permit to shoot. They're essentially series of movies. I wager that that was the reason they chose to be on a._m._c. and not beyond b._s. Because you can show more you you know violence and war and you can curse more easily without fear we can get more into the cursing aspect of things because we touch on that in the last <hes> the last segment because i i did pull a little bit of history as far as what's the status of the s. word on television and that sort of thing but i don't think if the walking dead people didn't wanna speak good corporate citizens if they wanted to say yeah we're not going to pay this and what were the f._c._c. to them right and before somebody else on an dan that what they're saying the articles and over-simplification and they probably i'm guessing that whoever they actually issue a demand demand for payment to is probably like the network or the station somebody they licensed the net so then it would be up to the network then to to figure out the bookkeeping on you know how if or how people i can't imagine they have uh license. I don't think there is such thing c._n._n. Doesn't have to have a license right have a cable channel and before. Somebody and i know this is going to happen in one of our chat rooms. Wow you guys really talk a big lawn picking on the f._c._c. you know why don't you just play the tone. Why don't you do that never do some well. The problem is that if we play intelligence on the line yeah and those are stations. We have great relationships with them. I don't wanna put them in financial jeopardy because yeah decided to prove a point that's labor now. We'll hit the dump button on it. Yeah we will yeah. It's <hes> it's just how it is and and i personally think this is pretty silly. <hes> you know the the emergency e._s. They call it now. The emergency broadcast system was what it was when i was growing up. You know that was something we sort of joked about and i gotta think i heard movies. It's not i get it and i i get it that you know somebody could be tricked but i don't think you know the world is so full of pranksters with radio. Stations are gonna do this for raiding. I'll tell you this. I mean if the emergency alert tones jones come up. I can't imagine there must be somebody out there. Who's heart starts racing every time they hear them but i don't think most people respond to them that way. I think most people are like oh. Oh god now what on you know. I'm generally paralyzed by not carrying very much yeah because half the time. It's just a test so the old boy who cried wolf wolf. That's exactly emergency broadcast. It was that the boy that cried wolf does do you listen when it plays. That's a question you tune out yeah zone <music> out eight five five four fifty free. That's our number. This is free talk. Live and arkadelphia is a conference dedicated did the principles of liberty individual sovereignty and freedom from coercion located in philadelphia. 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Talk live eight five five four fifty free. That's our toll free number eight. Five i five four or five zero. Three seven three three also hit us up on discord can find out more at discord dot freetalklive dot com. We're talking talking about the walking. Dead and jimmy kimmel live and lonestar law. Normally we don't talk about pop culture. Yeah we don't the these guys got fined by the f._c._c. because they played or had playing in the background or accidentally only recorded or used it as part of a gay a gag. They played the emergency <hes> e. a._s. What's that stand for emergency alert system emergency alert say to me ill. Ill always for those of you who are older than dirt. You'll remember it as the emergency broadcast system <music> apparently the government periodically has to rename things and spend and waste taxpayer money renaming something they got a whole bunch of it back back yeah they got because they got over six hundred thousand dollars from these four different media entities. I will wager that. The government spent spent more than six hundred thousand dollars in renaming the emergency broadcast system probably emergency alert system. That's the there are no. There's no scale when it comes to government spending that that they will not do i think as far as the system is concerned though i think they're fines while as silly as they may be a._b._c. Broadcast and the radio station group that they hit with fines both asked for license since so they are agreeing to be regulated by the f._c._c. therefore are not as upset about those fines because hey you guys ask for it right secondly of course i'd love to see the f._c._c. disappear tomorrow i'd rather they not exist at all but the walking dead and that other law show those oh sound like cable television. I know the walking dead cable television. I don't know about this other. Show but dead certainly does not deserve this fine. That's fictional program airing on a cable network at work and i think it's about zombie just as a reminder. I'm sorry that was a spoiler but the walking dead is about zombies and i and i guess the f._c._c. concern is somebody you know maybe going about their day and they hear an emergency alert symbol. They look at their t._v. And there's all these dams zombies going crazy. Ha what would one think. We're under zombie attack. I told you ethel. I told you they were going to do this. Well it does make me wonder a who complained about this right. Somebody must've liked unless it was an f._c._c. commissioner or f._c._c. bureaucrat watching the show right right and they're like i want to go after these guys or it was somebody who actually sent a complaint yeah <hes> the point being that animal planet and the walking dead are not broadcast on regular television. Now i guess one could possibly it was through the use of the cable systems systems and maybe a cable television system is seen as a licensed their amount of let let of <hes> regulation komo of the cable television world but it's not as much as broadcast television so it's shocking from that aspect but we we did touch earlier on the question of profanity. If you wanna get into that we can't but i think we got somebody on the line we will. We're going to go to my dog rex in florida. I my corrects. What's on your mind. This free talk live guys. Thanks for letting me and i was i was i was thinking that with the emergency urgency tone libertarian candidate was on stage with the republican democrat spicer's and they had the tone ready whenever the the other to open their mouth and they hit that tone emerged fever these peo s you know piece of <hes> w done on stuff yes. We're you're saying that the libertarian candidate should play the audio on stage to try to trigger her television stations to cut away to an emergency alert well. The emergency alert would be alive coming out of the republican and democrats cute well interestingly enough that there are certain things end coded in the u._s. and somebody has taken the time to decode these and put them on the internet so we're definitely not gonna play him but for example you can play an emergency alert tone that will tell the equipment equipment on the other line that there is a radiological hazard warning now. Here's the one i wanna use. It's called a law enforcement warning. Yeah warn in. There's as long as you're right beyond the look for law enforcement you can you it will be programmed. It can be programmed to indicate tropical storm watches to sue nami warnings all kinds of different stuff of course no one saying that happened as a result of the walking dead actually playing these two guys no one saying that anything happened as a result of those those towns being played and that's that's an important point. You'd your pro. Your system did not work as as described as has as did not do a cut up while we don't really have there is no system hooked up to a._m._c. There's ninety monitoring that for yes tone so there was no system there right so we couldn't then. They're just mad because somebody played their tones. It's the same thing about. It's the same thing that government bureaucracies will do if you use their logo so they basically siklie copyright their logo as i understand it and if you were so let's say take the city of keene logo and issue a city of keene press press release said whatever we're gonna tear up your street today or something like that <hes> then the city of keene could bring you to court for that and they'd probably went crazy. I just like the idea of harassing the system so new we diversity tone when when when the ruling party's open their mouth thank you for the call appreciate it out. Thanks yeah would be interesting to play that if news cameras is rolling and see what happens to them when that's mean that's a mean thing to do. Yeah we're going to stay with the phone lines and we've got starch outgoing calling from san francisco star child. You're on talk live. Hey guys how's it going. Hey what's on your good well. I was just listening to who <hes> put other. Show freedom phoenix <hes> that you guys cuss miller but it depends yeah yeah. You're good french. He had <hes> vincent piazza longtime columnist. You know w barker libertarian activist on <hes> talked about immigration and <hes> <laughter>. I got a little frustrated arrested because he who is arguing basically the libertarian position on it was very diplomatic and light but he wasn't really making the case or or open borders and that i think needs made awesome arguments that i'd like to make that <hes>. I don't think usually get made so much. What's your you know <hes> one one of them is that <hes> the <hes> constitution does not give the federal government and he has already to regulate immigration. That's true only <unk> only naturalization. What's the difference explain that for our listeners sure sure yeah yeah. Immigration is <hes> you know the someone coming into the country into one of those states physically from around from yeah physically moving right <hes> naturalization. It's just the paperwork process and becoming a u._s. Citizen citizen correct yeah. Citizenship is in the concentration <hes> but i don't support it. I think ultimately citizenship is just another big government program okay well. It's a sham. It's not even it's not even a program because i don't have jay touched on this last night as well but i'm definitely going to jump in here because citizenship unshipped doesn't really exist if you look at the definition of citizens somebody who is everything okay there a lot of noise some background yeah <hes> you put him on hold. If it's bad but it's okay right now anyway <hes> the idea is they citizen is somebody who has a duty of allegiance in return for an obligation of protection you mean you can look it up in any not just legal dictionary but in in dictionary dot com or whatever you want to. It's pretty standard definition because agree with i just want to the the government has the u._s. Government you know does have programs around you know issuing documents recognizing people citizens revoking sam though because they don't have an obligation to protect you if you want to put him on hold we can continue with open borders because i want to hear the different arguments about that. There are a lot of arguments on both sides of this. The more vocal side seems to be the closed borders. We've got to keep them out or send them back where they came from tom. What do you think about our immigration system eight fifty five or fifty free. This is free talk hunters anglers campers and survivalists get back to nature sure expand your horizons with the highest quality most versatile unique slingshots and sling bows on the market at slingo dot com sleeve oh products or compaq and model start from just just seventeen thousand eight. They're perfect for your bug out bag or storing in your vehicle. 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This is free talk live eight fifty five four fifty three that is our toll free number eight five five four five zero three seven three three three. That's how you can get on the air like the colors we having already. We've got star child in san francisco he he wants to talk about immigration and we're going to continue that in just a moment but first. I wanted to tell you about the edge wallet. It's a cryptocurrency wallet. What do you hold digital cash in. You hold paper cash in a regular wall behold digital cash in a digital wallet. The edge wallet is available for i._o._s. And android devices so whether the avenue i phone or samsung it doesn't matter you can use it to buy sell trade and securely. Hold your crypto currencies. It's user controlled you own your money when it is in the edge wallet that's important to note support for our a bitcoin bitcoin cash theory tokens minero ripple stellar many many more. It's built by veteran team. 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I want to talk about freedom of movement and the reason i use that term is because people at least in this country and they talk about it. They tend to talk about it. From from the perspective of people living in the united states and that is part of the problem they talk about it through a nationalist rework and it leads them to anti libertarian conclusions inclusions because they're not looking at it for perspective of people trying to move somewhere and they're not looking at it from a neutral perspective looking like well. What are you giving me the effects on people who are already in this this country so to me. I understand the libertarian position. I understand the status position on quote quote unquote immigration people coming to this country. <hes> that's all right. A borders orders are a function of a state. You know that is one of the defining characteristics and i will argue the we shouldn't have a state all day long but border is part of that it is a defined piece of property because they have territory criminal gang right and they're going to say that hey if you're gonna come on our turf. We want you to come here by invitation so we can tax you. You know if you're going to have a state dinner is going to be a place some imaginary line where it begins and ends right <hes> but that doesn't mean you have to shoot people across that imaginary line or throw him in prison. You can have the line. I mean that's what i used you say. Most of the the united states is <hes> solas borders. I mean i live in san francisco. There's a border between san francisco cisco and daly city <hes> it never causes any problems you can cross it without even realizing it your your job more likely to get detained or questioned or held up thereby government agents than anywhere else and most of the borders in the country are like that and they work fine the only place where the borders are causing problems. Are you know at the edges of the country where government suddenly decides <hes> you know they're going to assume a whole bunch more powers to stop and detain people without without any individual probable cause that person having committed any crime go down or right <hes> you know they claim these zones where the constitution is suspended within a hundred miles of any external border of the united states <hes> but really people shouldn't think think of this issue just in terms of the united states like i said that's part of what leads them astray. It's an issue of freedom of movement all over the world and really from the libertarian perspective if you know it's not people outside of any given jurisdictions. That are the main threat. You know it's not the main threat to people living in the united states is not the russian regime chinese regime of the north korean regime or anybody else in the u._s. Government right that's true for most people living in most countries is the main threat to their freedom and prosperity and well-being is the government of regime claims direct jurisdiction over them bravo to the people the world need to practice more solidarity the era with each other and stopped seeing each other the enemy and buying into this nationalism. The government used to divide and control people recognize. We all have a common cause. No matter where we live in the world in concerning our freedom together against the governments of the world want to restrict that freedom of control and extort money from us star child. Thanks well said thank you <hes> time. I hate all governments but the u._s. Government's the only ones the the the only one that is directly talked my nuts now now. I suppose we can say that because you're referring to a nut that goes on the end of the screw yeah yeah they they over tightened my my lug nuts yeah but that's the thing i wish more people would look at. I wish more people would understand are the economics of immigration <hes>. This is a net win for us. As a country. <hes> there are whole industries and particularly the farming industry that absolutely could not exist in their current aren't form without finding people willing to pick lettuce in the hot sun all day long and you can look at the service industry industry. I'll pull up some statistics on that. We're going to go to larry and indianapolis larry. You're on free talk live. What's on your mind. I think we should abolish all waters and especially the one between haiti and african countries sold. They could come here. <hes> the collar people to work there you get a lot had different opinions from even your guest to call in if they will allow the haitians become in and <hes> all the millions that are in refugee camps just santa big. I i actually heard that. There's a lot of somalians living in manchester that we need to get as many of those people as we can. I will add this larry. I think that <hes> it's definitely true that borders that are national need to be opened opened property here. I think a private property owner can have borders on their property if they're not think that private property should not attic this real in the united states i mean i think that everybody should be privy to your property or anything they want. I should just last. That's kind of how it works. When there's immigration laws because as soon as you passing immigration law the government starts telling me who can be on my property and so that is kind of abolishment of private property you said abolish columbus now. What are you saying that. I should just be able to walk into your bedroom anytime tom. I want to that's right. That's right as people are going to do anything you want to do. What doc all of them pretty big can of worms there larry call in on a libertarian talk show and talking about abolishing property so you can have somebody i don't believe. I don't believe you're gonna let anybody just walk into your room. Any time they feel like it and that you're gonna the wealth of homeless. People need a place to stay and need a place to eat. They need to follow all private property whatsoever but anyway. I didn't call wlac black guy i. I love the idea of private property. It's just the the property that isn't being used. I think should be available for home static. Yeah i think think that's fair. Good like all of montana and wyoming sure all we should let everybody from around. The world wants to come here. Come here and set up stakes. Give them five thousand a month for now down with the welfare of my private property to pay them see i was with you right up the point where you said i was with your right up until the point where you said pay and five thousand dollars a month. I think i agree with <hes> with nobody that they should be able to settle and they should be able to homestead ed and all that federal land ought to be turned over to whoever wants to sit on it and they deserve it. Hey look i didn't come in. I don't think setting should be limited to immigrants grunts. I think <hes> people who are born here have certainly an equal right to homestead whatsoever. 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I can't get along with it so i ended up sacrificing but take the take a look at people in the hatay love these instruments and how they've taken them to heart right i was a._t. And t. store all right the doors close at five o'clock. People were there crying like a baby to get in there and get their iphone term. You you laugh but you know it's true. I don't know i believe you. We will get your phone. We are back <hes> and clean your account out. If you come and worship the devil only thing they would want to know is what mo they would have to go into and what dance they would have to do the worship the devil to keep their iphone they would not think of the future implications of that they will go ahead undo it the average person and then millennium. There's a shoe with them. Because i got a truck right and the glass rack on on the back of bracket says would you worship the devil. Keep your app on. I'm getting so make thumbs up out of that. Even all people the data live one already ready to actually exists i if he got you guys say the government is the devil the government tell you do you bet bow down on your knees and worship us and let us do everything you wanna do to us to keep your app on your gonna sign the contract rex have an iphone burl and whatever you got us talking about smartphones. He's sounds like you're you're likening <hes> the addiction that people have to their smartphone or smart device to a worship for the devil. Is that what you're saying. That's where i'm going right there like the market the basic. Do you think the market beach right. What are you talking about what he's trying to gauge you. Tell you what i'm over number six hundred sixty six for the free state project so yeah i could get a six six six tattoo on your vegas about it is people people act like they want their privacy so much and they don't want big government the government can it anytime <hes> cut your app on all and come to you secretly and say standards and you to get your app on turn back on everybody <music> out there. A lot of people would yeah. That's probably a ninety percent ninety five percent from ninety nine yeah but the thing about it is is that we have allowed this to happen to us and we are back into voluntarily and sometimes people are watching porn orne. Get all kinds of contractual agreements slashed in their fourth session. They okay do to keep the poor moving so figuring out whoever's rather than the internet and they know that they have fishers of us watching porn doing whatever we do that yeah. They keep emailing me about that. No but we know it's true. I thank the game is over really right now by the way whenever they email you about that. It's generally not true. It's just a two for information about those emails and i don't even have a camera. Thanks art. Thanks again. I can share where he's coming from. Yeah it is and there is been a bit of a deification of technology <music>. I would say that's happened over the last few decades <hes> but but with smartphones it has become that you can find videos on on the internet out of people you know breaking down going into hysterics because they've lost access or they can't get on instagram or something like that and i don't know i. I think it's one of those things that just should be a wakeup. Call for us. Well i mean it's a convenience to me. There's there's a lot of the people out there with really screwy value structures but i have love. It doesn't bother me a bit. If if my phone's off for a couple of days sometimes i'll turn it off for a couple of yeah and i think what he was. You're saying is that would make you unusual compared to many of the population who would be freaking out if they didn't have their phone on or right next next to them or right. Now i use my phone for business too so it's more than just a toy but i have left the shop and got you know. Five ten ten minutes away realized i don't have my phone at i've turned around and gone back to work to get my <hes>. It's i won't say that you know. I couldn't have waited another half hour after hours because of business sometimes it is it just becomes a bit of a security blanket. You know you don't feel right if you don't have have it with. You not think that's kind of dangerous but i think a lot of people have they don't even think about that is unusual. The the newer were generations. They're just assuming that that's the way it was. Keep keep in mind. I mean when we were children. I think all three of us there were no mobile phones. There were eighty s. I was a kid and so there would have been earlier very large mobile phones back then for very wealthy people. I was was born in sixty eight so there were mobile owns shorts. Were like bag well. They were military terry in in those days. Well and there were other shorts. Maxwell smart shoe phones exactly can't forget that one. I remember crying because maxwell all smart was it was cancelled that night because nixon was speaking not date my summer but man i threw a fit but we had mobile phones and mobile phones can get smart right yeah. That's right yeah on adams brilliant show. I love the same guy who was <hes> inspector gadget. If i recall correctly who a a lot of kids in the eighties nineties remember that show it was sort of a cartoon version almost was he in that or did voices warrant. I'm not sure <hes> i don't. I don't know if he was actually in it but i think that a lot of the characterization in inspector gadget was myself was is parody of get smart. 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We want to spread the message message of liberty and that's the best way to do it. You can find out more <hes> at amp dot freetalklive dot com and rago some good news for you guys now. I think i'm gonna trigger a mass emigration from the united states for millions of americans at least those who were alive in the seventies and eighties a mexican court has ruled to allow recreational cocaine use all right. Hey hey and i gotta say this comes to us from digital journal dot com. This is a completely misleading headline. Unfortunately a mexican judge has granted to people granted to people to people's request pressed to be allowed to use cocaine recreationally your organization behind the case said tuesday calling it quote a historic step unquote the it must first be reviewed by a higher court suck again. People are the people who are involved in the case if it is reviewed by about a higher court and upheld then presumably that would apply to more than two people would it not. I mean what's the nature what's the nature of the case well. This alleged discredit civil was a criminal what happened we'll get into it. The rulings the first of their kind in mexico would allow the two petitioners to possess transport and use cocaine but but not to sell it according to mexican united against crime and organization devoted to ending latin american the latin american countries war war on drugs on quote. The mexican city court ordered the national health regular co friis c._o. F. e. p. r. I s. to authorize the rise. The petitioners cocaine use in personal recreational doses. The organization said of a copious official told old a._f._p. The regulator has moved to block the court order which was delivered in may arguing that issuing such authorization would be outside of its remit. The case must now be reviewed by a panel of judges. The ruling will only take effect if they side with the original decision and would only apply to the two people who brought the case names were not disclosed. I guess the mexican court system system works a little differently than <hes> than the u._s. System normally that that something like this in the u._s. would set some level of precedent <hes> well well. I mean it's i don't know what situation gives these this particular pair of people. I don't know this prevalence so you'd have to know that to know how widespread it was or whether or not it it could be could be said what was the cause of action and what was the case brought for rich to find that out you would probably need to speak spanish and do a lot more digging than digital journal dot com mm did when they came up with this headline that said mexican court rules to allow recreational cocaine use while technically accurate. It doesn't really <hes> it does not what do you think it does. <hes> that's just too bad it is but at least it is a court case making its way through mexico and i think <hes> any moderation of drug laws in mexico would begin a process of hopefully <hes> taking some of the money's some of the profits often away from the cartels the ones doing all the violence against mexican citizens and by extension <hes> you know a lot of islands islands in the united states through drug trafficking to i'd love to see those guys go out of business. It's the only way that they can take the wind end out of the sales of the gangs and how they've failed to see that just or i don't know do they fail to see that or not or or are they just lying to us about their intentions. I guess the ladder. I believe it's sir. I believe they're lying to themselves and maybe they believe their lies. Now but millions of american believes this lie to that if something is illegal goal people will stop doing it if we make the punishments at a certain level then <hes> they won't even mind if we infringe on their rights. It's <hes> they'll be okay with that because we're doing god's work by stopping demon drugs from entering the united states. No you're not you can't even keep them out of your own prisons note. <hes> it's true it's insane and the real human cost when you look at the war on drugs is a lot more than what what you see that budget line is people who die at the hands of cartels fighting <hes> the bulk of the if you wanna talk to die at the hands of police aces well because you know they're protecting the biggest cartel out there which is big pharma okay and the enforcers authors for big pharma. The people who enforce their monopoly is the d._a. The f._b._i. The n._s._a. the c. i. A. say the entire government. They're the thugs there the enforcers for the big pharma cartel and you will many of you will fall on the side of being you know. We've got to stop this. We've got to stop the flow of drugs and this is not how you do it. If you uh stop drugs from flowing <hes> let the marketplace dry up on its own <hes> look at i. I've been reading up more about switzerland's program on heroin irwin. The swiss government decided the only role they have in the war on drugs. When it comes to opiates is they need to provide it for addicts <hes> and if if if there are addicts in switzerland they are getting their their heroin. They're getting it from the government. They can just go right down and they'll have a safe place. They will get a measured amount of something that they know what it is unlike in the united states where we demonize these people and spend billions of dollars trying to fight a a war that cannot be one eight fifty five four fifty free. 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There's apparently been a newer series the the arts he died in two thousand five so obviously he's not currently the voice of inspector gadget but the the original one the ones that you know that kids in the eighty s grew up with he was well. That would be somebody other than me. Now my son you know <hes> i watched him. He liked inspector gadget and he was into it and we're going to go to the phones where we've got kirby in indianapolis kirby. You're on free talk live. What's on your mind. Hey good evening. Gentlemen armie us actually just calling to see if you guys will familiar with a gentleman who goes by the handle of bowl. Oh the fifth column i am. I've watched a few of his videos. He's a pretty good <hes>. I agree with him on well. I'm i'm pretty much every video. I've watched bo the fifth column. I'm not sure if he's on youtube. He's he <hes> okay good. His stuff saw all all over. My facebook feed people by share his stuff. I guess he's <hes> a journalist and he basically is doing at least a a daily sort of video blog on a different topic every day but looks like he's got one hundred and fifty nine thousand four hundred fifty eight thousand subscribers on youtube kirby. Why do you ask about this guy. Actually i've been meaning to ask you guys about but just because he is so enlightened and actually last night he <hes> did a video ross albrecht really and he's. He's the only person outside of your show where i've ever heard his name mentioned interesting. Yeah i see the video here is called. Let's talk about hashtag. Thank criminal day and criminal hashtag free ross and he's got a free ross hat that he's wearing in the video. Yeah that's cool criminal. That sounds like teat something t._j. Would yeah but i also wanted to <hes> turn you guys onto a video. I found sunday <hes> nor can't say this word on the radio but it is called gay v._c.'s we'll go there. Okay it is made by young fellow out of <hes> <hes> hills kitchen in new york and it sums up america especially the america. We live in right now in four minutes and i would suggest you watch it and let me know what would you think because <hes> this young fellas just told the truth about everything in this country all right okay yeah yeah. I'm actually at work. I work in a truck yard well. Let's get back to these guys. Sums up everything and it's called. It's called gaming and the s. word and it's another youtube channel yeah eh eh. His name is <hes> barley kratz. Thank you will find and i'm gonna call you back in a couple of days and see what you thought about it. 'cause it's powerful always have different hosts on but if you call back next thursday night you'll probably get the same same gang. Thanks call kirby. I appreciate it. You liked this guy. I mean the fifth column in favor of free ross. <hes> i mean obviously that's a good thing i have watched and i don't sit there and spend so much time that i can watch anything on a daily basis every time when i popped up on a bose videos it's been pretty straightforward and pretty much nailed the <hes> salient point as i would if he's if he's in favor of free rosters that good chances libertarian right i think he is. I think he is absolutely louis. A libertarian or definitely <hes> liberty minded guy but again. I haven't watched everything done but the he's he's pretty pretty entertaining and comes across pretty well and he's. He's a southern guy <hes> so i i think a lot of people will i hate to just say this. A lot of people will stereotype anybody with the name of bo who accent and always wears baseball hat <hes> but he's a sharp guy. I really thought we were talking about this story. Out of mexico where a court ruled in favor of two people who have petitioned their government to be able to recreationally use cocaine in the court ruled in favor of them <hes> i just wanted to talk but it needs to be reviewed by another court and it's go for a little bit more but i do wanna read some stuff from the people who brought to the case supporting these people quote this case represents another step in the fight to construct alternative drug policies these that allow mexico to redirect security efforts and better address public health unquote mexico united's against crime said in a statement quote vote. We have spent years working from more secure just and peaceful mexico. This case is about insisting on the need to stop criminalizing drug users bravo and designing better public policies that explore all the available options. The group's director lisa sanchez said mexico has it's been moving slowly away from its strict prohibitionist drug policies in recent years. 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I thought the fourth column wants to the press the fifth call think that's the fourth of state aid yeah the the fifth column is a <hes> is generally refers to the clan to stein part of an invasion yep according to compete in any group of people who undermine a larger group from within if you'd like to sponsor nobody to go on jeopardy call eight hundred fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero zero three seven three three. Have you ever thought about going on jeopardy. You seem to be a font of sometimes useful information and sometimes trivia well <music>. I'm i've i've been thinking more about how to get into the debate and that's a good point the federal presidential debates and any the debate anything even just on a street corner debate. You can always debate yourself. You could debate any issue from both sides i could. I'm a master debater you are that's what i've heard. <hes> we were talking to a gentleman called in and he was talking about bowe of the fifth com. He's a youtuber. I was just watching a little bit of <hes>. His recent free ross video. Here only got a couple of minutes in there during the break but <hes> liked what i was hearing. He was talking about the <hes> thank criminal day which is apparently today august twenty second and making the point in very strong strongpoint that the reason why we have the freedoms we have is because people were willing to break laws yep. We we sit here and you know george washington. I'm the father of our country. The most honest man he could not tell a lie he was wanted by the government. The government was is actively trying to kill him. I just read a book that was about the attempts on on washington's life before the actual invasion of the the united states by the british but they were there was a very hard hard effort to kill him before any of this happened in and that washington was also author of his own press releases like like all victors but that's true but it it's interesting that you don't think of you know. Washington was accused of felonies. Thomas thomas jefferson was charged with high treason. That's what these guys did and but are they heavy. Adams was a smuggler to begin end with right. He was actually a terrible brewer. I would argue that he still is. Oh i'm too close to boston to bash sam adams beer. We're he has nothing to do with it unless he still around. I'm not sure about that. He has to be a vampire case. He may be judging. I'm i'm not gonna even go into the beer. The point the point that little like sam adams <hes>. I'm just not a fan. I'm sorry but the point is is a lot of are these people that you do worship. These people who don't either i will say show respect for appreciate the efforts <hes> you know <hes> sure sure of them sure they're they're point in history and what they affected change by being a criminal and maybe push the boundaries right right. That should give us pause when we are quick to come down on somebody like ross olbrycht. Oh my god he ran the silk road a website a website site he wrote it is unjust. The just man becomes a criminal. Yes and that's very true. So i'll all i would say is <hes>. Sometimes we gotta pause. You know we you can jump to the conclusion that the politicians are feeding you <hes> but realized that the politicians titians may have a different point of view and a different set of goals than you would think for yourself. That's the best thing i can say. I know we were talking about mexico where you finish there. Should we get into utah and the latest on their medical situation we covered in in mexico to people were found <hes> by a court <hes> to they made the case that they needed. They should be allowed to legally legally use cocaine recreationally now. This was only a a suit involving these two people it'll go to a higher court who will determine whether that ruling we'll stand that may set some precedents down there <hes> but there has been at least some there's certainly efforts within the country mexico mexico to work on decriminalization and try to end some of the violence that has plagued that country <hes> so utah aw we don't hear a lot of drug stories come out of utah no but i know that they were looking at a medical program for cannabis recently. I think it was the recent election in where there was a ballot so twenty eighteen ballot measure <hes> in utah about that. I don't recall exactly. I think it did pass because they are moving ahead ed with state run medical cannabis according to fox thirteen out of salt lake city at fox thirteen now dot com lawmakers are however abandoning their plans for a state run medical cannabis dispensary network which is actually really good news because you don't want the government running owning the we distribution channels. You don't want him growing. You don't want them selling. They're gonna screw it up. Yeah i mean these are the idiots that didn't understand. We'd and i play uh-huh who they've been at war with us now. We're going to put him in charge. Well unfortunately crazy to still will be in charge. Just they won't be the ones who are handling the plants <hes> which is still not the best situation the best situation for them to step away and have no regulations whatsoever no taxes no regulations <hes> but to at least ally we'd like onions and that is to say don't regulate it right <hes> <hes> but in but you know at the very least this move in utah gets the government's hands directly off of the product <hes> because that way at the very least do you know they're not gonna screw up <hes> the growing process they're not going to botch entire season's worth of we'd with some terrible bureaucratic socratic error or rigmarole or whatever and at the very least you'll have private companies involved. I can get into more but yeah. I'm i'm interest. I just have a lot of questions. Russians mean so this involves the distribution of marijuana medical marijuana and direct yeah so instead of having the government running the distribution network okay that it will be then handed to private dispensaries and so they were going to have some private dispensaries but they were also going to have government government dispensaries and so now they're going to increase the number of private dispensaries from seven to twelve that will be scattered across the state rather than having seven and then another five run by the government apparently gotcha. I wonder who's who's providing the marijuana dispensaries i. I'm sure they have some <hes> usually they how they have growers approved grower licensed grower who had to fill out all sorts of forms and pay all sorts of one of the things we saw happen in canada and it's been awhile since inside checked in on what's going on with canadian legalization story which i think that's started almost a year ago. I think it was like october november of two thousand eighteen <hes> but what what we saw happen there was there was some canadian provinces that were handling distribution through government distribution during and then some were allowing private of it companies to handle distribution and what do you know the government distribution locations didn't order enough cannabis to supply the demand they got their system for online ordering was backed up in broken and it was just an absolute nightmare for the people who are trying to legally buy cannabis in those areas because the government was in charge completely milton friedman said if you put the government in charge of the sahara desert and five years have a shortage of sand and that's what's going to happen and it's happened in the united united states to oregon has suffered from either complete glutz of marijuana because too many grower gold has definitely been on the move recently and there is no more secure investment historically mcilveen. 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Major League Breakdown

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Major League Breakdown

"Taint date date day date date fantasy focus. Baseball didn't do do people listen to it. Oh Caravelle is a masterful host to car craft saying in we hate it. Do you do do you stay in. Awe Can Hash browns trivia from the past. It's the fantasy focus as podcast judy. We're going off the rails on this podcast dude. You're right Yeah couldn't be better. That was a good song. Inva- actually this is the highlight of every fantasy focus. Baseball show now is Kristin not only putting on the headgear wearing this big seventies afro but also singing a song. Today's was a little bit longer than most anyway. Today is Thursday April thirtieth twenty twenty little rainy outside he is Tristan singer songs slayer myriad fantasy leagues of the Best Kyle. Soppe he produces a research is because someone must but nobody does it better Americares else. Somebody out of host ran at options. I'd finished on my Netflix. Listen to the lyrics. Today's fine show smiling fantastic span staff writer. Jun Li joins us to discuss the epic. Nineteen Eighty nine movie. Major League was voted by. Espn writers is one of the top five baseball movies. Ever I concur. June welcomes a little show. Thank you thank you for having me on you know when you sign up to work for. Espn you think you're going to like the evil empire and that there's going to be this. Disney's a multibillion dollar company and it's actually just three guys podcasting video chatting and making up songs so yeah I think that's the best way to do it. And even when like the Pandemic Ganz? I think he's GonNa still sing songs. I think it's better this way personally. And we dress up a little outfits as you can say look you're wearing a Bandanna on this squad castle at least I can do. Is where my fanatic one so? My hair is starting to get out of control a haircut like every three ish weeks and is just starting to like really turn into poof. At this point where. I'M NOT GONNA turn my head 'cause I don't want you to see my man Bonn before we get to the movie Major League. Which by the way came out before you were born dude. We're GONNA six years old Ridiculous I mean I was already like. I'M NOT GONNA say would I was like Matthew negative eleven right. I'm only twenty nine years old. So Tristan Trivia that Eric will know UNICEF dude. Let's change up the words with Trivia Trivia. That June won't know because you got to take some guesses to hear June joining us. He gotTA gotta be up for the Trivia. I'm definitely not the best interview but I'm GonNa try to invest all right. Well Good luck to you. Guys here will answer. We'll ask the question first and then we'll get into our movie chat and then we'll come with the answer a little bit after that but the question for today is. Can you name the only two players to win? Mvp silver slugger and gold glove awards as as when a world series ring in a single season two players did that MVP silver slugger gold glove and they picked up a world series ring within the single season. I'm guessing Steve. Jobs is not one of them. we'll get to that answer after we talk about the awesome movie. Major League which is one of my favorites So June obviously Major League is an historic movie. I ate a lot of ways and I wanna get your thoughts before we get into the overall here but I just think it's really good. That's the most important thing. Yeah I think it really holds up as a movie. The thing I thought was interesting when I was I was I was really watching it. This morning Before we started recording and the thing that really stands to me was that it doesn't hold up in all the unimportant ways like wild thing in twenty twenty like there's a lot of guys wearing the number ninety nine now. There's guys wearing glasses now. There's guys with bigger personalities in baseball now he's level wild thing in two thousand twenty was in one thousand nine hundred nine hundred. I think it's kind of funny. And then you also talked about the fact that the owner was. The owners goal was to lose over the course of the entire. See and of course that's become much more normalized over the course of the last decade and sports you know so there's a couple of different factors that we were being told to break down the movie. The first one is artistically. Was it actually a good movie Was It told well? Apply hold up. Entertainment Wise I think it does hold up. Well obviously it's not a true story per se so it's not like they made mistakes like they do in field of dreams. Were Joe Jackson. Bass along side or You know what is it? Not Eight is enough to eight men out movie you know where like some of it just isn't true. This could be true except for the part where the owner is like. Well if attendance goes down you know then we can move the team. The thing that bothers me about that Junius well in in September. You already know you're attendants. Why do you still want the team to lose in the playoff game? When the one game playoff it's already been decided you're attendances up so that whole point doesn't work anymore. That's that's the one thing about the movie to me. It's unrealistic. I also love. How wishy washy the timeline is. Because like you get a sense that they're losing and they're not very good and then with flip of a switch. They're selling winning again. And you're not really sure. How much of a comeback? They actually made over the course of the season. Like how far back in last place where there was this a situation where like the entire division is kind of mediocre. Is this a situation where there's a favorite at the top of the division? It's very very unclear in terms of baseball logistics. Like what kind of turnaround this was. Twenty nine thousand nine Washington nationals type of season turnaround or was it even bigger than that. I think for me the part of it that I like from the realistic sample. It's a movie that doesn't take itself very seriously and place it in that time and I'll admit I remember watching this in the theater. Which was its own crazy story. I saw this movie with my grandmother. Seventy five year old grandmother takes me to this movie. And I'll tell you she kept a straight face the entire time through all of the very colorful language on that but it played off that that joke about the Cleveland. Indians were a team. That wasn't competitive. At the time they even show that Joe Carter images at the beginning as they're playing burn on. I love that kind of encapsulated Cleveland's sports and Cleveland. The Cleveland Indians Baseball. And we saw of course what happened after that and the other thing too is. It's one of those movies that does not have an ending like some of these others. That's just wholly unrealistic and you have to take in the sequel in order to realize that when they were talking about a one game playoff for a division title that they didn't ultimately win at all. I like the fact that they do that. Now I hate that they had to take the sequel in order to tell you that's what happened but they didn't take it to the point of a World Series Championship. Unlike a movie like rookie of the year where you see at the end e holds up the world series ring. That was just utterly ridiculous to me so something is kind of interesting based off of that too is that the you mentioned the fact that the ending is not that unrealistic. The thing that I personally dislike about most sports movies is how corny the endings aren't how Korean predictable. They are but it feels like major. League is one of the few sports movies that actually earns it's corny ending through a combination of the fact that it's a genuinely funny movie that still holds up. You know twenty years later. Twenty twenty twenty five years later but is also you know it's it's it's as much as it is a baseball movie. It's also a movie about the characters in the course. The script projecting is Y- Y holds up as a storytelling thing over the course of time. Yeah I mean that's the second thing you're technically as a baseball movie. Is it believable? I'd say is I don't know why to slow catchers batting second second right after Willie mays Hayes in the batting line-up that doesn't make any sense you know why you know why why because he's sacrificing. I'm watching all these eighty eight games. The first one that came to mind to me was I think it was rich. Dauer the Orioles and one of those games batting second. You always want those light hitting bunk capable guys and I'm watching everybody coming up there and doing the fake punt with that was just eighties baseball. Well I mean certainly believed Ricky Vaughn Charlie Sheen actually does throw throw hard in real life. He looked like a pitcher. He looked believable. And I think my favorite characters is the first baseman for the Yankees Hayward who's actually peed. Ruka VICI ONE. What the nineteenth Award for the brewers as a pitcher a large man asking. How's your wife my kid? That's a fantastic character right there. Pizza's ready fencing Wrigley. When he sneezes he looks like a party favor irate characters. I read somewhere that Jean took steroids. In in order to up his velocity for the movie. Like I read that in high school. He threw seventy nine miles per hour as a pitcher and he he used royds for about six day weeks. I think there was a story in. Espn Dot Com from like twenty twelve about it about how he used it to pump up his his his veloce cost per hour. It something that you mentioned just look. Believable was as a pitcher something. That always takes me out of sports movies especially baseball. Movies is seeing actors. Who clearly don't look like it can actually throw a ball. It just takes so much the realism out of it. And the fact that there's multiple shots where you can see sheen throwing the ball and like a convincing way. I feel like goes a huge way towards making this a great baseball move top of just know how funny it is and how many you know the fact that this movie launched. Wesley snipes his career. Like that's Hilarious to me I WANNA go back Eric. To your other point there the criticism since we gotta take the negative angle of this to A. You're right about the attendance and in subsequent viewings of this movie. That did bother me a bit. That if her goal was to be underneath a certain attendance threshold as you said we would know that during the middle of the year. Why would you fight against? It has already been clinched at that point. So that doesn't didn't make an awful lot of sense and yet for some reason. I still embrace the plot. I don't understand why it is it. Is it just the fact that the individual scenes and the one shot baseball jokes captivated US enough that we could just kind of check our brains at the door? She would have made money with the playoff games more money than she would've made in months of regular season action. But I think what I like. Here's the so many great characters. There's so many great lines that we Joe Boo and Isis and Bob Euchre jazz. The bid outside. There's so many fantastic lines in this movie that we still talk about we. That was thirty years ago. And we're still talking about some of these lines just normal conversation and I think it's fantastic. I mean if you watch a lot of baseball I know you do June when I think players love this movie to. They talk about this movie. Nee Try to act like certain players as well. Yeah I think I think something that kind of speaks to just the lasting cultural legacy of this movie too. It's like you go to a major league baseball game. There's a decent chance you'll see someone wearing a rookie Von Jersey. Ironically whatever like there's a decent channel see someone there. There really are a ton of memorable characters in this movie in way that I don't think exists in most sports movies. Because you know like I I think my Patriot Serrano Voodoo stuff all the time like there's probably caricature to a degree that made me might not happen in a movie. That's made today right but it's Dennis Hays Bird you know that. He can't hit a curveball. Like all this stuff is so memorable And the fact that I it really does stick out as as I think one of the more accurate baseball movies in a funny way too because I think that this movie really captures the dynamic of clubhouse and the vast range of personalities you have you know you have. I thought it was really funny in the beginning of the movie. When you saw the clash between Sarunas Voodoo and the older pitchers you know Christianity him wind Like that felt very authentic to a major league clubhouse in my opinion I'll tell you in eighty nine thing that struck me with this movie is it was it was when I was reaching the true depths of my statistical obsession with baseball. And it's the one movie I can recall where I genuinely wanted to see a postseason stat sheet. I wanted to see how many how many home runs patriots. Toronto had ended up with. How many strikeouts did Ricky Vaughn really have obliterated Ziara early on and I kind of thought of it and fantasy terms? It's for me. This is my number one movie. I will admit that my number one baseball movie was Major League. Just because of as I described for didn't take itself seriously had a lot of funny bits and was relatively realistic. I think Major League also works to as a sports movie because sports often takes itself so seriously especially in sports movies that having a laugh about how self serious baseball is is is very refreshing for someone who's around the game constantly and I think part of my problem. Maybe just a little bit weird in this respect is any movie that that tells a true story. You better get it right. I mean you'd better be part of it right or I'm going to have a problem as enemy the rookie. The Joe Jackson thing dreams you know even now. It's like a lot of things they're like. You gotta get it right so maybe like my career move. I think of bad news bears because it's not a true story but you love the kids and Walter. Matthew is a perfect Matthau is a perfect character. Lead the team and the ending goes against what you would think it would like major league. If you know they're gonNA have to win by at that point but in bad news bears. You know like they don't win. The game. Not Spoiler alert fifty years old. I didn't way major. League ends is actually believable. Like they don't win the world series. It's just a one game playoff to get in Willie mays Hayes. I guess he stole his Hundredth Base Right. Is that what he did in that ninth inning? There never really say for sure early in the movies like one for every stolen based on his his gloves but they never really say. It's a hundred steals. Maybe I'm missing. Something quite a defined it but yeah. I wondered it myself. I'd love to see if the statute had him with one hundred stolen bases at year's end out a reference and yeah like what was the. What the Duke. The how many saves the end up with like I wanna see all these numbers baseball. It's I want to see Willie mays Hayes batting line over. The course of the entire season like is he. Is He just movie Billy Hamilton? Or is he or is even worse than that. It's like two fifty with to ninety on base and he slugged to seventy. It's the eighties. Was he a walker? He shouldn't have been leading off. It wasn't a walker. Watch him up to ninety on base percentage at a two eighty batting average. I mean should he really been leading off the loop Radha catcher batting second slow catcher in the one game play on no wonder he gets replaced? A major league to how well I I think. Maybe he didn't WANNA be. We'RE NOT GONNA discuss mainly to on this show June. I are you aware of that movie. I did not know existed until today and I also have never watched bad news bears. I've only seen the Billy Bob Thornton version on cable. Well good that's a good one too I but the original to me is still a little bit better in the second one. I mean he's sleeping with players. That's funny I like that and he does a great job but Walter Matthau fantastic. You GotTa Watch that movie I think what else do we need to discuss with? This movie. Obviously timelessness it. Holds up terrific I'm just curious. What is your overall top? Five baseball movies my five baseball movies. So I mean I was born in Nineteen ninety-five so that is the cultural context for a lot of these and at least one of these choices is not rational is is totally rooted in. So I'll start from the bottom. I said number five was major league although I'd probably move that up after watching it again today. Angels in the Outfield is number four. I I know it's not an actually great movie in my opinion while I have actually yeah I have a lot of nostalgia tied to it and I think a lot of Pe- A lot of baseball fans my age view that move very fondly and also a child actor Joseph Gordon Levitt in that movie and he's turned into a huge movie star. Sugar I think is an incredibly underrated baseball movie that I think Really captures the struggled a lot of Latin American players face today. The natural is a classic. Obviously Robert Redford is Robert. Redford and he's very Robert. Redford in this movie and then for me money balls my number one because I think moneyball as both has a book as a phenomenon is play huge role me just getting into baseball in the first place and Brad Pitt puts in a great performance. And there's a lot of stars that movie film oftens last roles. Chris Pratt is in that movie before he became a huge movie. Star like Brad Pitt. Is Brad Pitt? So I mean Yeah Chris. Pratt is Scott. Had A burger. That movie Again the realism factor for me. Maybe no true movie can warm my heart but I know some of the stuff now movie just just didn't happen didn't go to Scott Hanover's house on New Year's Eve and offer contract. He has an agent and there was something else likes. Yeah they coincided a couple of trades. That didn't actually happen on the scene of Jambi Jambi and I think at traded and the same day with walking into into the clubhouse Yeah the art house a really nice guy or how did not like is the picture he does. Because it wasn't true like Art Howe was not fighting with with you know Brad. Pitt's character in that movie and really couldn't win with that though. I mean because because of how long the movie came out after the book I mean we can get deeper into that movie at a future show but like well. That's for next week. I couldn't couldn't win on the timeline of when the book came out versus when the movie came out the the level of knowledge in between pretty tricky. Also we. We can't forget the fact that this movie also immortalized Reliever Ricardo recode until the end of time Shadwick Bradford come on and I call them. Chadwick Bradford because watching him play down a pro player stadium. That's what they defined Chad. Bradford everybody else but Chadwick on that screen. What's your favorite quote from Major League that you can say on the air? We still are family. Podcast I don't have any family are listening to our podcast but Your favorite quote here May maybe it's Bob Euchre Bob Euchre for me. That's such an such an iconic line and is Bob Euchre and I- door of Euchre as just like a baseball fan and so two to have that kind of person immortalized in this kind of movie. The movie that's as great as this. I think is just perfect. Trista what are you? Oh I hope I can say the lion on this but if you think about that no I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I can safely say we didn't get back to that Trivia answer and we will Christ I can't find it to hell with it Before we get to the jewelry as we actually have a twitter question about the movie. Major League is Brian says who would have been the best fantasy asset on major leagues Indians. Roster would it be Willie mays Hayes for the speed Serrano for the power Taylor for position scarcity or chasing those Wild Cezanne? How many saves that Charlie? Sheen actually had for that team June are you a fantasy baseball player. And if you already want to admit I am a fancy baseball player. I have a league that I've been I've been going. That's been going since high school and I I've always I've always been fond of closers. Who are radic. Because it's always exciting a little bit you know like especially when you're a fantasy. I think having a little bit of a a little bit of a wild card of a closer is a fun thing to do and especially if they can rack it with the strike outs and saves. That's going to you know. Get get you a lot of points. Disproportionate to a starter. So I'm GonNa take a wild thing honestly Tristan ongoing with Haywood. I mean the first Baseman with forty home runs hundred. Twenty Albright's nobody Cleveland's roster. I guess I guess Willie mays Hayes because if he really stole one hundred basis points. Yeah that's a Lotta. But he also didn't have any power so navy did in the second sequel he. He was swinging for power power but still an underrated guy would be the third baseman Corbin. Bernsen was a third baseman. Who I remember on the in in the movie you know. Hit like to eighty with twenty five homers and ninety. Rbi that's a fine season back in one thousand nine hundred nine for a third baseman. That's a top hundred fantasy option. So I came from. What was his name in the movie? Roger Dorn is actually maybe not a guy you want to break bread with but an underrated fantasy option about. I'll it's probably Willie mays Hayes now granted because it was eighty nine. If we're taking him into today's game the stolen basis would be just absurd. It would be truly billy Hamilton Esq but in a regular role so that would really matter a lot back then. Maybe it wouldn't have quite so much from a fantasy angle. I actually think Eddie Harris. The pitcher would have been quite underrated. Keep in mind that this team is built as a complete set of no names. Nobody would've wanted to draft these players but how effectively the picked for the one game playoff. So you have to assume you would have given you sixteen to eighteen. Wins just to get there a respectable era. I'm trying to think of a good conference nowadays. We Jamie Moyer. He's Jamie she knows. Strike s ready. I love as lean ball. Forty seven years old cast type. Which I that's a ridiculous BIC is anyway. We all major league. We made that clear here on the podcast and Before we let June going too far more important things Trista and the Trivia question what was it the actual answer to this one okay. So let's repeat the question is can you name the only two players to win the MVP silver slugger end gold glove awards as well as earn a world series ring in a single season? There are two players who have done this. Who are they? I know one of them you might i. I feel like the answer to this. Has To be before my time because I honestly have I have. I have no idea where to begin was picked very well for each of you. Yes each of. You has a pretty good angle on the two answers for this question and Eric. I'm going to bet year going to be able to guess at first with the your first instinct. Well let me just show you my jersey. I do believe that he is correct. That Mike Schmidt Has Jersey of the day he did it in one thousand nine hundred eighty and by the way he was the world series. Mvp is the only one of the two who also did that. Who Must Player of all time? Well they might. He was quite a good player. But and we're GONNA hear myself for not getting this answer. You might not David Ortiz. I'm trying to think like what would be your angle for junior. Like I don't even know what June's favorite team is. Is it the Red Sox Yankees Gurbuz Big Red Sox Fan? Yeah I will point out that nine thousand nine hundred eighty is the first year. You could have done this because of the of the silver slugger go gloves. The other one is much more modern example and June. I think you were on the right track. God God I'm totally blanking right now. This is Trivia is just not my strength at all. I'll say on the right track. I guess. What do you think right track? What's the trenscient you mentioned in a team and I'll also point out that Eric's a very big fan of this player? Soham I for non baseball reasons non baseball. Oh yeah honestly that clue me. More confused could be a non baseball reason. Oh Oh mookie. Mookie batch and twenty eighteen as pantomine bowling yeah. Oh He's a three hundred dollar. I feel really dumb for not getting that. I'm going to be honest. I never. They're never easy. I would think it'd be like fifteen players like that can only be two. It's it's very difficult to capture the MVP the silver slugger end the gold glove. You need to have the defensive component and the other thing to keep in mind here is that in the eighties. The MVP and the silver slugger weren't always assigned to the appropriate. And by the way cody bellinger. Last year was very close to this very close yet. Rough part of the Trivia question. Kind of send me because I was like there's so few players who can both win an MVP and love in the same year. Let alone win the World Series. I was thinking Griffey frankly But anyway good one. That's a good you're doing all right. I got one of them. Do not going to give you credit for mookie. Anyway Julie. You're the best man. Check out all his fine work. It covers baseball and other things. He drove story last week about the Red Sox get off easy and they probably did and we hope to have June on a future. Podcast discussing another of his fine movies. But not angels in the Athol Jude. Thank you so much for joining us on the fantasy focus baseball. Podcasts appreciate it. Thanks to all right. Great job there by our friend. June Lee who I got to hang out with and the All Star Game I guess in Cleveland in two thousand nineteen It's where I figured out that I have a kid older than him. Also a really good guy. They picked out some appetizers who was at that meal. I guess they've shown feel after it was after this something probably the home run baseball summit. It wasn't it was the oh no well we also then we talked to them. But I remember being in Cleveland with so. Let's move on now. Kyle's in and we're GonNa talk about your hashbrowns you other. Hash browns for the rest of this show when he got kyle. We've got some good ones good movie talk. Andrews got more of a real life baseball questions. He wants to know your thoughts on Nick. Sons L. Long-term Dynasty format. So something I wrote about. In one of these articles. The other day was a player who came up. Didn't hit a now is being viewed for differently than should and to me send. Zell is in that class as well. It can't last season Numbers were not what we expect. He did twelve home. Runs in fourteen steals. Which is not bad news in his eight twenty four season at so much the talk mattress around him these will he play because they signed a center fielder from Japan and they have a second baseman. Now so since I can't play there I mean there's just nowhere for him really to play but my point is if sends out hadn't been promoted last season and put up. I guess a little disappointing number. Although the steals empowers air we view in differently. And I'm trying to remember who the player was talking about. I'll do that while you're speaking but when you talk about you have to talk about the opportunity here. Will he get four hundred days in twenty twenty one? I don't know He. He suffers the double whammy of having disappointed fantasy wise but also not having because path to playing time that we say is a huge trap for fantasy managers. And if you look at cells raw totals from last year in a all time history context. They're a little bit less bothersome. The reason that they're disappointing is that last year home runs up so much. So twelve homers one. Seventy one isolated. Power is a significant disappointment. The other thing that kind of bugged me about his here from my standpoint scouting license that he's got a better hit tool than he showed. Last season in the minors was a Raquin three hundred hitter. He hit for a much higher contact rate. And I do question whether he's just really never gotten that extended look from the reds that promise of of a specific locked in role. That might help him stay focused. This is a little bit about what Scott kingery talks about in Philly that he wants to be locked into one spot and one specific role so he can just focus. I don't know maybe that matters to players. I think it's a little bit ridiculous and overstated. But maybe incentives case a change of scenery or having a committed singular spot for the reds would help them break through. And I don't want to give up on him just yet knowing that he hasn't had that agree. You ever number two hundred eighteen overall and you have as a top thirty thirty and your dynasty rankings. And I think that's fair. We shouldn't view him and say well he can't be a great player he can't be a great player. It's just we haven't seen it quite yet Band it's GonNa Bother me. Who is the player who came up on? I just wrote about recently or maybe it's for future one. I can't remember now yeah I got it. It's it's Cuban it's Oh and he was and he was rushed. Carter key boom. Yeah Right. It's for the nationals article. Which I don't know what is being posted but car key came up last season and batted like one twenty and now people are GonNa view him as a failure. It was twenty one years old. He's GonNa be Great. Probably the third baseman. This you're obviously can't play shortstop because they have one but Don't view a player who comes up for fifty at bats and struggles. Say He's done. It just doesn't work out that way. He was rushed. And by the way if you're going to take a sample of that size and just write the player off then you didn't get Mike Trout. During his first full year the huge rookie of the year season that he had you remember how review trout as an awesome player as a matter of fact he in. Bryce Harper up on the same day. If I recall no no. No trout's was it trots. Rookie Year was. He came up on the same day. Or was it treads disappointing year. They came up on the same day. I'd have to look aisher. I in his age nineteen season trumpet. Like two twenty with no power and he was overwhelmed and I remember going into two thousand twelve. People thought he was nothing special. They really did. They thought he just with nothing special at all. He thought he was still basis. I don't think they thought they had a lot of power. And then his rookie year was unbelievable. He was twenty years old. He had thirty armor stole fifty bases that at three twenty five. I mean anyway Donna. Right right off says L. Keyboard were a lot of these guys are just come up struggle right away. You're right trout's promotion in the year where he broke through the rookie of the year campaign. That was the one where he was called up the same day that Bryce Harper was promoted for his Major League debut but it people regarded a lot better entering his debut day in twenty eleven than they did in two thousand twelve. Yeah you're dead on. Their front was not working year. He was eight years old. He used up his rookie numbers in that. Two thousand eleven see see now. He did work. I don't understand yet. One hundred thirty five play. Appearances IS ONE FORTY. It is one. Is One thirty at bets. It's an antiquated part of the rule. I mean it's and it's absurd. Scott Rolen had exactly one hundred thirty at bats in the year before he was the rookie of the year. It you know what there's so many things in baseball. That are antiquated that they use it bats instead of plate appearances associations not just like the voting for these ridiculous awards. That just makes no sense sometime in the hall of fame as well but man some antiquated stuff even do the salaries they have a lot to fix the next bargaining agreement on if they will but at trout. That's kind of scary so since Al is not a rookie anymore. Kibo is I wonder if they change if they play seventy game season this year to the change. Some of the the standards. They're like or not. I mean like Kharkiv. He was not going to buy one hundred thirty times this year. Either career at bats anyway. I don't know it this. Is this the thing. Where were we? We kind of have to throw away last season. Is that only really got that very brief period of time. Aaa was rushed to the majors disappointed but after he went back down to the minors three ninety one on base four eight. Slugging percentage very respectable numbers. That's a pretty quick rebound granted and AAA I. I'm bored. I compared him to. You're going to think it's crazy. I do a lot of cops on this show and most of them. I think I think work. So my copper Carter key. Boom is Justin Turner Right Hitting Third Baseman. Not GonNa Thirty home runs. But Twenty twenty five home runs not gonNA STEAL BASIS. Shoot around three hundred. That's I. I don't think Justin Turner COP is that bad. There's there's meat in that COP. I see where you're going. You're thinking of the cook. The Justin Turner the past half decade. And this is the issue. I have with comps entirely. You know I say it. All the time is if you look at how Justin Turner got to that point. Yeah no that's right. We need to be clear that that we just. I want to tell people that car keenum's not GonNa win a home. Run TITLE IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA steal ten basis so. I'm thinking of a right handed hitting third baseman. Who should hit for average twenty home? Run up but a gloss either. So that's what I'm thinking of when I think of Carter key boom there's very few cops at fifth third base anyway moving on. That's what's next question. Do we even answer the question. I think yeah you guys sound Pro Sons Elena in a roundabout way. They're speaking of Eric's calms Baker. Chimes anyone to know who Eric Compares to some of the players in Major League if you're picking player from today's mlb up loving major league. Oh man who sit on that. We did want when we had right. We did Willie well as and Billy Hamilton. He's really Israel. Vince Coleman in a way like or like like a right handed version of Omar Marino. I'm trying to think like your buddy who Vince. Coleman's a good cop if it's if it's I mean he who are the active comparisons also an active. There's nobody that's deals a lot of bases. I mean Dee Gordon. Yeah or Billy Hamilton. I mean he player. I mean I look. Let's do this right. So Jay Taylor the catch with a slow catcher. I imagine he doesn't have a ton of power so you can compare any number of you. Know Orrin catchers who bat right handed like Jacobs stallings or Austin Roe mine. You need an older player. Who's there for the youth tutelage of Morton mouth an auto kind of the guy that I think he's like and maybe they don't hit the same? Brian McCann I think he's Brian. Mccann a guy who owned the rights by McKenna's an incredibly slow player an agent catcher dealt with some injuries didn't really get to hold up granite. He's now retired so not technically active. But I'm going with Maldonado Ricky Vaughn. So now we got to think of a relief pitcher with no command. No control he's ricky. Vaughn was a starter in that movie. He only came in and that last game as a closer because he didn't get the start in that game early in the year he was reliever so we need to think of a guy who's got great stuff. It's kind of job chamberlain but Freddie Peralta all Kidding Java J. Related No it's GonNa be a star us. It's war guy who can work in both roles but like Freddie Peralta throw a no hitter in this baseball refs him may not be in the rotation but it's a lot of strikeouts. It's a Lotta walks. I I think he's he's a lot like Kerry Wood's career where you're not sure whether his stuff is better in the short relief for starting. There's probably some injury questions. Losing his stuff. I'm trying to think of somebody act. I know I'm trying to think of who that guy today is. I like your Peralta suggestion. Well I mean. He's heard all the time but alex raise. That's four Luis Martinez could be callers Martinez had some good years. The starter I'm not sure. Ricky Vaughn Third Base Roger Dorn. I already mentioned earlier. As an underrated fantasy option So third baseman. Who's not hitting thirty home? Runs and certainly is not a defensively rhianna batter. So it's not enough power Josh Donaldson. Would he got? He's Martine pro now. He has more power than that product or twenty five home runs. I did not. I was a with twelve home. Run Guy I mean we know. Roger during that season hit twenty five home runs knocked in ninety. So it's gotTa be twenty-five Casey mcgehee. Remember Casey mcgehee of the brewers not active though. No not active. You're right but I'm trying to think of a write in hitting third baseman Jewish. No Jewish shows a good defender. You need an agent Guy. A guy who was very goodness prime. Maybe not the top. Mvp candidate Evan. Longoria yeah eaten. It's like Evan Longoria. But Yeah the defense defense will be. There will be a game changer. There but I like my case. Mcgee one Let's see who else Moving down the list here Willie mays as we did. Robs Ya Sarah Sword outfielder? Who has contact issues and a curveball pitch? Our I'm not thinking surrounds a good defensive player. Could it be so lehrer or Hey Solaire. Yeah that could be. It could be Jorges Hilar- volunteers what's wrong with forty eight home runs though. I'm more sellers. Pedro Serrato might have hit. Forty eight home runs with the baseball. We had last season he might. He might have Zuma could work. I'm looking at the curveball numbers. Just to see if there's somebody to pay me Santana and he's high on the list number eleven in terms of numbers against curve balls last season. Yeah that that could be a pretty good one. Okay Who Else? We got here Who Harris all right. So of Spitzer's coupons for anybody out a right hander. So painting more would've worked up. He's a lefty old guy. Who's an old right hander? Who CAN'T GET Who can get who can overcome the lack of a strike? Our I'm trying to. I was thinking about this while we were talking to June. Trying to come up with a good comfort this me like I I have sky on. Actually I think it's on two teams and I it's inexplicable how he had a respectable year. Homer Bailey. Yeah that could that could work. I was thinking Davies doesn't strike anybody out but yeah homer Bailey could work to any never went out a no hitter with that stuff. Our billion to do you need the same season. Yeah I think that's right or was it goes watching one of them yesterday. They play one of them the other day up. There are many old writers right now. That are still getting it done. He's a little bit honorable. Sanchez esque where there was great necessarily at a downturn and then all of a sudden he's kind of useful again. We have to assume any hires earlier in his career was better the nitny any. It wasn't the movie The do could be any closer really a lot of strikeouts and a lot of saves I mean but he's mean so like I don't Wanna say curb Yates Yeah we don't have as many close who fit this description as we did in the eighties and nineties. Like a right. Like our bosque or something. Resale glaciation Lefty Ducas righty West. Yeah Yeah he's definitely writer. Yeah it's been a little while since I've seen the movie I've watched it like throughout his kids in a in a in a wiffle ball game so I don't want to make too but who committed a crime but let's move onto the next skype so I keep my job so hey were the first basement. I mean that's like a prime howdy first baseman or doing that before recovery right handed batter. Yeah we've lots of nose hair so I mean like I hate to say this because I really like them but Peter Lonzo I mean yeah that could be the kind of career. He's headed for big power numbers and some questions. Otherwise Yeah I kind of repeat Alonzo in my next. He's Jayson s Jason Giambi's career. I mean not the most. Oh so you're assuming that Heywood did some things. You shouldn't have dial. I'm saying that you know Jason Giambi even with those questions had a pretty darn good career. A non athletic not really somebody. You'd expect to be a great defender but just big time. Power gotta be it's gotTa be like if CJ krone ever had an MVP season something like writing a better to me so anyway. That was a lot on that question. We don't even know if we have time for anymore John. This has been a lot of fun today. We gotta fill two shows or we might as well fun doing it. Oh you know what I'm taking it with the left. The thinking of the the lefty closer gets brought in the natural. I'm confusing the two movies. Yeah who's actually a pitcher in real life? I believe with with maybe that's for the next natural. When we do natural the movie we might be doing more of these shows with junior somebody else talking about movies by the way all right. What's what's next goal is to get a movie show every week. We'll see we'll see how that goes but it was a lot of fun Let's see here on the question. Front Day no Eric's bold prediction for his braves Kalamazoo. Ntr would shrink toward twenty nine steals in the milan-san would trend toward twenty nine. Saves wants to know. Both called Tristan is most onboard in a full season. And obviously this is not going to be a full season but if if this was a one sixty two. They're both back next year and frankly they both won't be back so the not. GonNa do this in two thousand twenty one braves Chris. Pass shady play Centerfield next year. Is the next Andrew Jones power gold gloves center-field? Akhoon is going to be a right fielder. Bryce Harper for the next decade. But for this year enters yard as an undervalued stolen base guy who I think could even probably won't lead off but he's GonNa play and then you and I've been back and forth milan-san versus Will Smith. So which do you think is more reasonable? Probably MILAN-SAN I go back and forth between these two and the hesitation for in. Crt is just twenty eight. His career high in the first place and teams. Just don't give players the opportunity to steal this many times. I'm not a milan-san fan as you know but I won't be remotely surprised if the braves decide that they want to go with him. In the ninth this is the Classic Job Hausky versus Raphael Bettencourt. Cleveland Indians Bullpen. Way Back in the day. You don't have to have your best reliever closing twenty nine. Probably a little bit too generous. I agree it should be more. Like twenty four twenty three. It's bold predictions near it's yours. He'll be playing for contracts if they play and Either that we'll get to that ever season but like players that are going to be at the end of their contract in fifty game sample. They're going all out. They're not they're not taking days off. They're not like rob stealing a base. Every time I get on like you could see some of these. Mookie BETTS WHO in my Dynasty League Baseball Simmons Batting six or seven for the dodgers like he? Could he playing for a contract? You think he doesn't WanNa go like twenty five homers twenty five steals in a fifty game season. Does he wants to show off. So we're GONNA see some crazy small sample size. Stop no matter how long this season is our what else we got caught. We've just got one more here Brad. Notes that we've had the discussion on twitter and elsewhere that the minor league season could be cancelled although Jeff passan denied that it has been decided at this moment. Should that happen? And if we get a two thousand twenty major league season how much you bumping prospects adopt to deal with playing the miners for the season. The one problem I have with this and I do assume that the minor league baseball either will not be played or played a different form is. We can't assume that the cardinals wanted to start the clock on Dylan Carson. Just to use him as an example because they could just have him playing on their fields at spring training during games but not be on the active roster so even if the cardinals have like say bump Rosser size to thirty or thirty five. That does not presume. I think it's more likely than pitching prospects are going to be promoted than hitting prospects on the right away so to me. The potters shot to make the wildcard game. In a seventy five game season. I bed Mackenzie Gore is up either for most of the season all potter's Sherman to not afraid to do that. Phillies with Spencer Howard. Toronto Nate Pearson is going nuts in the baseball Sims. Pitching prospects are former likely to be on big league rosters than hitting prospects in a shortened season. Wizard tick well I. We probably should bring up the fact that there's that report there with you know there's some optimism about a season happening. That sounds like it could be one hundred games. I have some questions about it and we can if we hear more about it by the time. I'm sure we could dig a little bit deeper into it on Monday but I think that ties a lot into this minor league discussion and Todd Zola. Our colleague our friend who does a lot of our projections work at ESPN. I've been talking a lot about how we're going to deal with projections and rankings for this perspective season and his very good point was that we kinda need some basis for a minor league year in some form because of the Rehab stints for injured players a grain angle that. I hadn't thought of that if we don't have some sort of concrete structure for how we deal with Minor League games or SIM Games on the side for teams playing Major League Games that I'm going to be fading the injury-prone players because I think they'll be more questions about the recovery. I don't know where there are. Minor League teams or monitoring systems going to be done concurrently in these major league parks. Will it be in Florida or Arizona? I am not sure but if there is no minor league system whatsoever I agree with you on the pitching side. I do think that we're going to see teams. Be a little bit more aggressive Promoting guys like Gore as you described and I think they're going to be much more creative and promoting players especially with more teams eligible. Excuse me eligible for the play offs. I think that there's going to be more opportunity for teams to call up these premium prospects after the point. They won't be spending of your your service time. I know it's a very lengthy long winded answer that we could go on for thirty minutes for but I I kinda neat to see how Major League baseball is going to deal with the service time question. I think that's going to have a big bearing tied to this question as to how we approach prospects and fantasy. That's fair by the way underrated quote that I forgot about at the beginning of the movie when the The lady is like pointing out. Here's the roster for this year's Cleveland and one of the board members says this guy here is dead crossing often. We use that. All the time in our drafts like when somebody like drafts a player that's already been taken in the draft and somebody does is here is dead crossing off then That's that's an underrated line from the movie. Are what else do we have to get to today? All right. Here's something else by the way baseball tonight. The podcast still awesome. Buster only reaches out to four players and executives to give you a behind the scenes. Look at the game that you know and love make sure to check out his most recent show on Itunes stitcher or wherever you listen to podcasts. Also we need to point out that really good guy tradesman. Seaney of the Baltimore. Orioles is probably not going to play this season at all if there is a season aware of this but we were at his last baseball game in spring training our friend. Steve Gardner pointed this out. Brett Hershey was with us as well baseball. Hq that we were at a spring training game in Sarasota for the Blue Jay was blue was Tampa and Baltimore. Mencia about a second in that game. We had no idea the time that something was physically wrong with him seriously. Wrong obviously cancer. We wish him well had the surgery already. And we hope trae Mancini's back and crushing it for the Orioles in twenty twenty one and And trae by the way has very remarkably positive outlook that I admire and we do wish him all the best in this fight. I mean that's the most important thing for him is to get healthy and I think the outlook is very very kind of heartwarming and encouraging. Say It seems positive. A wrote a story that was published somewhere and The Players Tribune. I believe. And that's where it was and I just hope the best like we can talk about what's happening. Look to some scary stuff happening in the world and we hope it's getting a little bit better. Maybe the trend is is going into the right direction right now and I don't know maybe it'll come back in the fall for right now. I can't wait to get outside. Go See baseball game just like you go meet you at a restaurant. Go do normal things again. Hopefully at some point in May our next show will be in. May hopefully at some point in. May We get back to a normal society. Only if it's safe but of course health comes first and Anyway that's all I have to say about that I guess we're done for today. We'll be back on Monday. Which is What may fourth so. We hope you join us. Stay with you. I'll go star wars. There can't imagine the in all its rights over to that at all nope nope not not in the slightest nope. I'm not going to get a panic. Text about what. Song we should be single. I don't think Joe will be a problem. You don't even stores right 'cause then you say that on a on a previous show. I haven't seen him. I know I had to do a broker for the football podcast last year. The first one. It's a long straight. It's not a long story. It was a book report on a movie than I never saw. Or it's a long story but Stein you actual work is. If I don't do enough there was after Monday night. Football ahead of a podcast are a book report. Ready by you. Know the Tuesday taping which was nine an hour. We should also note that the we we did a virtual fancy football summit this week after the draft. That's what we've been doing all week long Talking about fantasy football players the fantasy football rankings are posted There is a podcast hosted as well with our colleagues and I'm writing a story or two and Many way football hard to believe that it was. I think that you're going to be. We might do a fantasy football mock draft before we do a fantasy baseball Here isn't that incredible? But thank you all right. That's the world right. That's the optimism towards the two sports. But I like seeing positive things for baseball. We'll be looking up all right. Thank you to everybody Tristan. Great Job Kyle great job or junely job as well. I'm Eric please have an awesome weekend. Hey Bartender job. Oh needs a refill.

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EP52  The Unwritten Rules of Baseball

The Morning Brushback with Dan Blewett

1:01:52 hr | 3 months ago

EP52 The Unwritten Rules of Baseball

"Well welcome back. brushback episode fifty two. We are here live once again after three prerecord episodes which were getting quality I think Bob, how would you rate the prerecorded? Non By quality. I mean better than anything. I've ever done on the podcast plus we had good guests really good. We good get. We had really good guests. So that was a made up that made up for For whatever lack of quality we might have had we just recorded you and I have been trash can have but nobody carry the load Ryan Copeland in limbo and from Mile Mater. So. Pitching guys joined extensive pitching knowledge on on the show. We need a balanced out. We had so much hitting garbage for forever. Oldman yelling clouds. Back Glorious. Glorious hitting talk. I'm all for the pitching stuff. I've got five, I think five and two thirds innings on the mound professionally. I'm in there I'm in the I'm in the position position player. Pitching Hall of fame. That's just simply not true. So today in our in our in our episode today, we're GONNA go for unwritten rules in baseball including. Do you swing three Oh when you have a little bit of lead, I love for an entity junior stealing with the big lead. Taking the extra base which the pass ball with a big lead bunting on no-no. Rowing hitters. What's the right and wrong way to do it We'll talk a little bit outside the home run stuff and then an amateur baseball specific one. Be Time clock. So should you have mound visit when there's like sediments go in the game? He will get pretty good about that. So I will also talk a little bit about Bob Yours himself about seeing pitches. How important it is a see a lot of bitches combat stuff like that, and so we'll wildblood less are up with Fernando taty since we were away for this big news but swing through I commented a little a little bit about this on twitter wants your take on Achi swing through. Loved. It loved every second of it. First of all, it's bases loaded so. You don't. There's no reason not to swing I have not actually heard that unwritten rule like specifically as far as not swinging three. Oh. I mean I guess spent a specific scenario where the where the bases are loaded. So it's not like there's nowhere to put the guy. but no, I mean swing through like the all the at bats count. If, he strikes out after getting throw like that strike outs. So counts. Yeah I think. I think made in the major leagues almost everyone came to his defense. I'm not sure there are many people on social media or anywhere else on the social media's the the High Court here but I didn't see anyone be like, yeah. What a jerk that was so. Modern baseball will got mad at no one said that. Was the was it the manager the other team that got real pissed that I heard it was both managers. So. His manager I saw didn't stick up for him I mean, that's now if you're Tutsi if you're T.'s I mean, that's it right there. Right like you're not gonNA stick up for me after winning ball games I'm saving your job in a in a city that never wins I'm the I'm arguably the MVP front runner and you're not gonNA you're not gonNA defend me early stick up for a little bit. He's He lost the locker room right there I think like you have especially with big personalities like Totti's Machado in that locker room like they run the show their this manager. I don't even know what what the manager name, but he is not he they're not taking his personality on the field like they're taking those guys. So if you lose those two guys, you might as well pack your bags leave. While I don't think anyone even knows zooming you over the bodies or member care with the batteries. Manager is is just like John's a pencil pusher like who cares Let's appoint is not. Only Russa yeah. No you WANNA keep that job. It's like you and you're not going to back. You're you're MVP candidate when he didn't even I mean I could see if you like through somebody's head if he threw it somebody's head or if he's a pitcher throws his somebody's head hits him in the helmet you could say look we're not trying to we're not trying to hurt anybody ball what. This kid swings it a three. Oh. Pitch that you lay in there like screw it. I'm GonNa hit five hundred feet. While it was weird was it was only attended three. The game is completely out of hand like a like a two run Jack by the other team the next inmates down to five that's like A. Not A. It's not a laugher anymore and seven rounds like whatever. But also that was not center cut. It was like our third like down. Like, you could see. Nice. I mean yeah it was not easy hit for him to be new fast fastballs coming obviously but beyond that it wasn't like Again belt. High. Right. Down the middle, it was only a third. and. If it's like one to count, that might be a ground ball double play right you end to talk on it. You know honeymoon you need bullet. which the? What's the narrative? What's the narrative? If he if he pops out is everyone still pissed off at him. Ours everyone's saying always idiot I swing and three Oh no cares as dumb. Yeah. It's his risk. Well Matthew. With Rio pits. The outcome is not certain. Like. It's not like stealing third with ten run lead whether it's like we know you're not gonNA throw I'm just GONNA get third base for free. bitches like the outcomes not certain at all. It's probably a sixty percent chance. He mashes it because he's a major leaguer and he knows balls coming. But at the same time, that's not a certain outcome, you could just dismiss it and fly out. His score center fielder and yet if you're mad about it, then put him on first base like the dudes the dudes the best hitter nationally right now. If you're not if you're afraid that he's GonNa Swing or you're afraid that he might do some damage against your pits and put them on. Bass. Like whatever. That's that's that's far down the list of quote unquote unwritten rules if there if there are if that is one I mean I'm not again, I never swum three like I've never in my career swung three Oh but also wasn't up there like putting balls you know up off the scoreboard three Oh. So I'm better off on first base stealing second than I, am trying to hit a you know an opposite field bomb three. But that's me personally, I would never swing three Oh but whatever you wanna take give them take sign manager. What the Hell? Yeah. That's the thing like the unwritten rule is, isn't really towards the team like I like I grew up with thinking through like an automatic take because you wanNA walk and get the free as it has nothing to do other team. It was never about showing the team it was just about the fact. I mean take your chances walking here and then swinging swinging free one. But yet because it's risky elegant, it's a strange move when you're that far ahead when you have a pretty high likelihood again, your free base. Than just. Take a cut but. Where so where I would say that this would be disrespectful is if it's a really mismatched youth game because I've seen this before you've been where you play like you have a fourteen you team and your team's tiny and you're just getting mashed by a team that's really big for their age whatever it is right it's like a ten to one the third inning. and your pitcher struggled thrust strikes and he's just throwing grenades up there in his three now and to do hits a wiffle ball home run it's like. Come on dude swing swinging out of your shoes like when the swings when the swings change and like I'm playing Loofah Wall against your team. Now because we're so much better than you, that's one it gets a little. But even then. You don't stop I think I, don't know. Different. Thing it changes even a little bit of basis aren't loaded like if you walk I'm he still gets an RBI. So like why not swing Plus money and baseball like you can't. I I saw this argument a few times from from guys. They're like look one home run and four be is like if he's in a shortened season like students putting up numbers, he's GonNa get paid exponentially more. Like his even his arbitration years are going to are going to be affected by. I know it's not one home run in four is isn't gonNA make your arbitration ear but. It's not hurting his his argument. So swing away the you don't want him to walk him like or throw strike if it was a three one count no one's arguing like were mad that the pitcher sucked so bad in the first three pitches at this guy decided to swing like he was ready to swing the first three pitches maybe they should have given us something better to hit or made a better pitcher I. Agree. So it's not like Glenn. Let's go to stealing. So when you have a big lead. When should you shut down the running game or should you ever? Let's start with Major League Baseball I. Definitely different I mean once you get past probably. Once you get past being up more than there are. Innings. That make sense. So if you're in the fifth than you're up six runs or seven runs I, don't know there's not really an exact science I think don't you get to the because it could be the eighth inning one inning laugh in Europe too I'm yeah that's a bad. Yeah. I'm just I'm trying to think it's probably it's probably six runs if it's like the eighth or ninth as probably like eight runs if it's in the middle. Game. If. You're up by more than once you're up by more than one swing a bat seven, eight runs. I mean again, it's like us. It's like by discretion if scores. Fifteen eight in the sixth like, yeah. You're probably still playing the game because everybody's swinging the bats really well yeah. If the scores ten enough in fifth than you're probably okay let's calm it down. But I think it depends on the score I mean there are unruly. You're not trying to embarrass dealer team by. By, taking extra bases on a ball, you know that's a questionable. Double or triple like you get your stand up double, just take it. You get your, you know your routine base, it keep it. You know trying to take extra basis but again, playing hard like it's hard to tell a guy not to play hard. Because the guy still trying to get you out like that's the whole thing hitting us so hard it's tough to tell you guys like. Okay take a pitch or guys make their money stealing bases like don't steal a base even those guys are one nine plate. But I I agree like rule is. If you're up by so many runs late later in the game sitting on you just you don't take the extra base you tone down here aggressiveness. You score on balls your sports to score on you take the basis you're supposed to get, and then that's it. Yeah, spine, like you said I, don't think you stop lying I mean if if you're a guy that could make a double triple if you're a billy Hamilton when Gabardine, he's still take your triple I don't think you just pull up necessarily but you can for sure right you don't stop playing the game because that's insulting to. Like the whole. So let's go to youth baseball. Wendy. Shut down the running game at US baseball. Hot You when you're a I mean it's almost like you have to gauge the other team like you said if you're playing a team that's just you're just over matching them like just go base the base. I. Think once because there is a run limit so it's usually like Fifteen after three twelve runs after four ten runs after five something similar to that twelve, ten eight. So. If you're close to that or if you're definitely, if you're past the run rule, you stop running completely like if you're already passed around rule stop running. Now. The one thing I do. I. Do understand when coaches are like look we're trying to get to the run role to save pitching because it's not if it was just like a League game, then you stop running if you're in a tournament where some of these tournaments will run seven eight games to win it, I get trying to shorten the game and you and you can't argue with the coach trying to do that because you just can't carry enough pitchers to get through seven seven inning games in a three day span but you just don't have enough bodies. So if you could short in a game two, four, five innings your there, you probably do it. I don't have an issue with teams doing it every issue with teams that are like. Stealing, third like taking home when they're already up fifteen, sixteen, Seventeen Ron's on you. which happens a lot knuth games because defense is just not play very well. Yeah. And if it's if you're looking can't block the ball and keep going to the to the backstop. You feel like you should take the base because that's the way against played. But then again, you're like let's stay put after a while. You stop them usually. Stop Stop the kids at third base like it's the gets passed like, okay. We're stay here may drive map. Yeah I mean there's been situations where we've been winning. Like we've been winning by a lot where I'll tell guys like, hey. You know. Were taken were taken. were either taken a pitch or like y'all. I remember being in a game where it's like they're struggling so bad on other team like look we're not swinging like strike shoddy strike shot. We won't count the stats. Okay. We're just trying to like. You know you're going to hit the ball five hundred feet off this kid like he doesn't even look he's pitch before let's just let him strike out whatever and that to me that feels like disrespectful towards the game but you're trying to not embarrassed like the other team as well because they are kids in a college game or something I would never suggest that. System that's happened. It just sucks when the game really breaks down I don't mind the team getting embarrassed like if you don't like getting. Than I don't take that feeling home in your pocket and. Change something up or quit. Like I don't I don't think we need I. Don't I don't WanNA protect self esteem but when the game just gets out of hand and Messi like base, the base is fine. But yeah. The whole like I duNNo. Non Embarrassing thing is if he for me? Sometimes you need those. Look. Summary are was are like. That hurts. Unwritten Unwritten youth rules either. That set me off for like three Oh fake bunt. That sets that sets me off big time or. Or like the Disguising moments because I was a good point you brought up which is the. A you have to consider not just winning this game but winning the tournament. Moore's like the overarching thing. So when you're talking about yet, we're GONNA steal up nine Ron's because we wanna get to the ten ron ruler while Ron Roller whatever an MS games we can save our bitching. That's a move that makes sense given the whole scope of the tournament. It doesn't make sense given the scope of just one game. So you do have to think of it more of that way. If you only think of it as far as this one game in a tournament, you're just not playing strategy correctly. So you're right they're stealing up ten ron's in a tournament. Where potentially shortens the game saves you pitching? Unfortunately? That is okay. You just it's fine because you have to. Again, you're trying to win the tournament, not just the single game. And the time. So somewhat the time when that's because these hormones all time limits. No of this hour forty five or two hours to fifteen. When it gets close Do you forego mound visits if you're winning or do not. I mean, it's all about the timing of the visit, right like as guy out there for a while and you need to, you need to go out there to give him a breather or did you ask the unpire? How much time we have left before? We can start new winning and he says, you know five minutes I mean a lot of times umpires will be good like if it's right on the cost, but it's close game like I will run another one because like that was quick inning but obviously if the endings are taken long. And you're just out there stalling like take them out visit and you make the empire coming, get you and you said nothing and then you wait one patient and go take the guy out and replace him with a new pitcher like. They're probably are starting to be some rules by mound visits and I. Think if we're in a time limiting, maybe they should implement like look amount visit as a poem like that set no talking you're gone. Yeah See. I. Disagree with that because I still will have a mound visit if it's necessary. So we're up to like this is a situation where you're in last summer we are up to two one in like the seventh and it was definitely like this is GonNa last happening and they did just like act's innings. But we gotta run our on and it was like the time run on base, and there was like some legit strategies that I need to talk to arbiture about like how to approach this pitcher is a critical moment in the game. I'm taking them out visit and I'm GonNa Talk to my guy, I'm gonNA explain this. Is How we're going to hopefully prevent that time run from scoring. I'm not not having that visits because you know some coaches GonNa end the guy other complain about doing. So don't care. This was legit part of the game. This is three. There needs to be some there needs to be a different rule can't just be like a no new winning after an hour forty five there needs to be like, okay. Once, we start the fifth like if we're close, they say, okay, this is the lasting like. I'm not not all you can't be where you get to the bottom of the fifth there like Wolf we finish a sending in less than seven minutes. We'll play another one like 'cause then because then you're gonNA, get guys at stall and they probably should stall. That's a good strategy. Honestly, if you have to waste seven minutes, it's a, it's A. Bush league strategy, but it's still a strategy like we've been. We're talking strategy about you know like you said, he's a big moment in a game like a big moment in a game might be I don't WanNa waste my this kid the closing inning when he could start the championship game for me going to stall. So I think there needs to be some more. Not. More like baseball though that's the problem like baseball is not in the time limits though that's the whole point. Right? Is like there is no time limit normal baseball. So if you're going to implement it, then there needs to be rule. So guys can't manipulate it like stalling like passing a basketball around the court when there's no shot clock, it's like, Oh, we're GONNA waste four minutes quarter passing because other teams in are running down our throat. Like there needs to be there needs to be it's different set of rules for games that are timed I think well, I think the Umpire Disney's go out. Just follow guy out there he's actually talking to pitcher. Great if he's just saying in Gaza Hey this over get back to your dugout. It became. He became during my. We're having a legitimate conversation about what to throw this this hitter. Comes out to another one, the coaches it's like. Wow how you know like you can tell they're just not saying anything relevant and the other thing about sports is almost no coaches actually have legitimate mound visits. So which is really bizarre because are definitely guys used to play baseball who coach teams And yet I see almost no strategy visits I was not to to my horn. One of the very few actually took visits. That weren't dislike our pitchers earn forty pitches inning. They were just like nothing's necessarily wrong, but it's like second and third to outs. And pretty decent hitters coming up and I WANNA. Talk to him about how important it is to keep those runs from scoring and how we can do that even though it's not a critical point in the game that's a real thing and no-one no-one. no-one has, is that okay let's just to remind you since its second third and two outs in the third inning. This is really important to strand these two guys. So we gotta be really careful about not getting up a single have base open maybe we start in with something that's not your fastball. What is that going to be? Okay. Maybe change up and then if you miss will come back with just having a conversation linked our thing and say, okay, this is how we're going to I'm not going to try to get ahead with a fastball like I might normally. You have to you have to remind kids the situation. And those are pivotal because you'd be good. Those two Ron's on a silly pitch call in the third inning they can come back to the difference maker later on you know. I got the solution. Clock. Stops on all mound visits boom done. Game clock stops Mambas that's. I mean. That's I agree that seems fine. If the code like soccer kick the ball kick the ball bounce. nope. Clock stops we got injury-time stoppage-time. Yeah I. think that's we got injury Tim we turn turn we just saul youth. Baseball browns. or every home plate umpire gets a rabid. Raccoon, just brings out with them. You're not talking to. Dottie. Let's go. Let's go. Above bunning on? No No. Absolutely not. Unless I take that back I take that back. If it is a one run game. It's okay. If it's a one if it's one nothing in the seventh and your Billy Hamilton. It's it's okay to to get on base. So because that's a good winner. Okay. If I think it's got to be a one run game. Think even two runs you gotta swing the bat out of respect for the pitcher you gotTa swing the Bat. Because he's you know you play the actually play the baseball game but one run game I mean if you're on Bass and anything can happen. Yeah. So I think that's I think that's where the line in the sand is if it's five nothing. So my last year with the Orioles it was. It was the. Top of the ninth were playing the braves is actually pretty good story replan the braves run around third two outs were down five nothing. So it's the top of the ninth were on defense and their guy lays down a bunt. GETS AN RBI gets hit makes the game six nothing now so That's that's. That's an unwritten rule right? Like you swing the Bat, you're up five. We're not trying to pass stats get arthur basis plan way back. Whatever? Like, he is Suzy Cross first base on plans. Second base. I'm in his face. Yellen. Adam are manager comes out. He ends up getting tossed Yellen Adam? It's like a benches clearing type thing. and then three days. Later I took my release from the Orioles and went to the braves now is on the same team. So the same team I basically caused a little a a half bench, clearing brawl I was in the locker room just sitting there you know bright and early coming back from a I think it was all breaks. I'm sitting there in the first one in there and just everybody that's walking is like what's up like a guys? Go I. mean the manager, their manager, and their third base coach Property Office We agree with you like everybody everybody can't agree with you like that's something you're not supposed to do you know up five nothin like we thought it was great. I don't feel like you're out of place, but I felt a little out of place. Definitely. But that's a that's a situation where you can't put it keeps you can't give yourself an RBI single on that you have to swing the bat. I agree my Appendi-. It's it's winning the game versus the town just break up the no no. That's those are two different things. Yeah. had got Bilbao assuring homerun stuff nowadays. eiser. Laid out of their little flair they watch the box a little bit longer. I. Think. My stipulation is as long as you round the bases at A. At a respectable pace, I don't care what you do when you hit. Like Sammy Sosa every time he hit a home run that year the Spanish years he hit sixty I mean he hops like. Three big hops out of the of the box. That's very flashy. But he ran the base like he ran around Tottenham Plate whatever. It's the guys I think that hit. Him flipper bat and take thirty seconds around the bases as if like we're all going to sit here and watch that like it's one thing to hit it put and I'm sure pitchers are Kinda like I'm sure a lot of pictures don't notice the pimp job because they watch the ball at the turn the ball fly. But then when you have when you've got to watch him Jog at a snail's pace around the basis i. think that's when you're. Turning the knife it's one thing that it's one thing to stab the guy with home runs thing turn a knife and really emphasize it I'm all for the okay pamphlet hit a home run do whatever bat flip it but at least jogger on the basis like Gimme Gimme a decent pace. That's my. That's my. Yeah welcome compared football, comparing it to football where they seem to solve around a replay which I think is excessive and unnecessary like. Celebrate after sack every tackle it seems unnecessary but. The football celebrations are not about the other team like they're clueless rubbing it in that guy's face. It's just like the linemen are celebrating together the A got a sack. It's the white seaver celebrating that he scored a touchdown it's not like disrespecting. It's not like he's running and taunting like I get. There's a penalty for taunting now but they don't really seem like that's what they are just like a show of happiness or whatever. And in baseball it's really become the same thing. Obviously, there are times when. You throw a guy later gets a bomb off you and he pensa down. There's clearly like a message which is fine. If it was like a kid for tat I like it, I like it remotely today guys hit the home run and they stand there for a second they watch it on the. Other bat and it's not really. It's just like the cancel culture on the web. It's like twitter as a pitcher if you let it offend you if you if you make it about you. Then, it Jerry get fired up like Maxim bumgarner couple weeks ago he chirping at every body and throwing like meat balls on the NOLA play. It's like you just got to pitch better dude and stop worrying about the hitters right? Like it's not about us. They're not. They're not out there show up as Bumgarner they're hitting Dinger's all asam bumgarner like. What are you going to do? A lot of these are situation although because if you're down ten to one and you hit a solo shot and you pimp like dude. Your Bat and Ron Because you get your ass kicked like there's definitely situational if it's tied and you had to go ahead home run and you WanNa flip your bat cool like I think the pace around the bases is a staple like if you're gonNA, hit iron keep a decent pace. But if you're losing by a lot or you hit a home run that as meaningless to your team, there's no need to it's not a me game like it's really not an it's not an individual game. Where you know, you hit a good shot like engulf and you can celebrate at like you're losing a lot. Do you got your team is getting their ass kicked? Like there's no need to put the guy behind you in jeopardy like if the pitcher takes the wrong way where he's GonNa, wear one in the back. which is an unwritten rule that doesn't seem to get us as much is protecting your own players as pitchers I saw I don't forget what it was like a couple of weeks ago where a guy got hit and he said something to the media like, yeah I wish I would like one of my guys with a protected May and like basically if you get hit, you expect your picture to retaliate in some form and hit somebody on their team not maliciously. But like let him know like, Hey, we're gonNA protect our guys in your pictures. You know I'm sure you've been in situations where guys in the dugout relax somebody better protect me somebody better protect you know so and so after get hit twice a game or something so. I. Think that's one that's one that never gets brought up because it's violent I. Guess. It's more violent showing in baseball field but I'm all for the you hit somebody when you guys get set, you hit my best player like your best players to get good wear one at some point. Moravian Code. I got my picture. I got my. Put me on the mound. I'll do it. Great. Accuracy well, there is something to be said this is a big greater philosophy but in one of the books I read recently they were talking about how? Back. In the day even for simple things like you were held accountable. So I came what time period this was in history. But if you're if you're building a house from some for someone and then house collapsed on them and killed their son. Your son is going to be killed in retribution. It's collapses in kills donor then you be killed. Some serious. Attention to detail you're making that if you're building at House right? Very. If you're building a house for me and I bet you three hundred grand and I get to legally murder you if it collapses and Gills on my family members. You're going to double check and all of your eyes and all of your lower case Jay's and you're gonNA, across all your T.'s it's going to be a very well built house. There's no way I'm building a house. If that's the rule if that's the law not building a house, but I agree with. Bill I mean houses don't fall down disarray all. Other disagree with the the eye for an eye type thing. There used to be a thing camera when I feel abuse in Britain I, I'd have to look it up in the book but they said that when a architect built the bridge, he would have to stay under the bridge for a couple of days after it was complete. Just like it's GonNa fall grow. On you should lock. Be. So. Scary. BE SO NERVOUS So I don't know the the the tit for tat thing is a is a legitimate deterrent if it's something seriously if you hit my guy, I'm GonNa hit one year guys. I mean I think it's a real thing on a bowl. Holds. Guys accountable on your own team like I don't WanNa. Stop doing that stop doing that Bob I'm going to get in. That's legitimate. Legitimate. If we showed up I'm it as once I showed up, I didn't have my practice shirt. When I was a freshman. To stuff in my bag. And coach, didn't make me Ron. Made everyone else on the team run I had to watch them all. Punishment that's great. Honor as you're begging like just let me do it. Slept me run instead of them like note. And you learn because they're all mad at you. And Yeah so Yeah it's it's huge in a locker room where you know you a pitcher who's Who decides like all this? This guy showed me up a little bit someone I'm GonNa dot the next hitter, and then I mean someone like Mike Trout like you know he's the one that's GonNa. Get hit like if my trout's on your team like he's the one that's GonNa get hit they're gonNA make it a point if the situation calls for like two outs nobody on my truck comes up like he'd steps in the box knowing this Sob is going to get me hit like I'm GONNA get tagged And South Fun like getting hit his even if they hit you in the ass in the buttocks, it's not fun like nobody wants to get packed. So and it's an uncomfortable because what if he doesn't pay strike shot because you're nervous about getting hit? A. Bad. At all around. Coburg pitchers. Yeah. So I think that covers all of it Interesting stuff I. So I started listening to be translated here into late appearance stuff I started listening to another base bubble recently called the Bronx Zoo by sparky lyle. So I listen to Jim Bowden's book again. While four which she talked about I listen Jim Bounds autobiography found interesting but not great. And listen start listening to the Bronx Zoo which was written by Sparky Lyle. Was a manager in the Atlantic League. But I know yeah, legends. Yeah. He won a CY young and it's for the Yankees back in their heyday with like use gossage and all those guys. His book I I. Returned it about six hours in this is like doesn't old man like talking about stuff that happened in baseball, which was very different somehow from Baltimore, which was a guy talking about what happened in baseball but just a much different perspective I don't know it was it was interesting but it's like I've heard this before it's just an old guy talking about how he puts a on. Griping about certain players but it just like had no. It just lacks a a character to bounce looked because mountain stood for a lot of things and he had a lot of strong opinions. They were unique opinions back but. Anyway I like sparky lyle too. I mean having having met him been around for one season as a man he was a manager emeritus. She's always the home game shake enhancing autographs really good. Guy Really Nice guy like always in a good mood I don't know how I don't know how you would be as an author but as a person who's really good guy. Yeah, it's hard to say what was that made a kind of flat for me but I think part of those just like. With with all four, he is constantly a champion of like player rights of. Minority Rights like he spoke out for his teammates a lot and there was just like a different he just had a very different on the view pointing out lots of stuff that was wrong. The game and things should sustainably change in baseball and none of that stuff was like art of. the Bronx Zoo. So I don't know it just feels like I listen to play by play of this seventy eight season. Or not. Either way but ball was like. was like a real on a more of A. I don't could be the but is different. Could be the what do they call? What do they call the guy that writes the book for someone like an audit not? Right somebody's auto by could, been ghost rider bad ghost rider. Well. And entertain it. Yeah, it will in Jim Belton was co written like he wrote a good amount of a beginning co editor named Lenny Scheckter. So they were close friends when there was a reporter, they became friends from him. In the clubhouse interviewing people So they did the book together but more of it was written by bound than it was like shaped edited unlike made into a whole by Schecter whereas. was probably not as much. The case with with the Bronx Zoo. was probably more of like. Actually trying and feeding it which. I have a somewhat handing tentative ghost writing. Really. For my book, My autobiography. I don't think you'd be a pay me enough. I couldn't not idle close the big the big undertaking. For four friends. And So that's maybe happen sometime in the future he's currently. audio in his life stories so that I have really. Really. Interesting. That that in use to come to fruition. Kasese in that state now we're GonNa see what what he's gone. I would sort through it right up so Take out a lot of odd jobs nowadays. Casting for an aerospace company right, Arrows aeros aerospace company. Web Design. The Best Baseball podcast on the web. Then, our podcast. Route. So things I'm starting to get more clinics glories so I got a couple. COUPLE CLINIC INQUIRIES INQUIRIES recently for softball so Some of those ignorant again when on a lawsuit put on my own as well. But. You've become the you've become the face of online softball coaching. No longer you no longer. Are you a baseball pitching guy? You are the face of online softball coaching? While the software. Industry. For the throwing. There's one other guy who does throwing I'm not gonNA mention his name because he's a huge dicap- is a huge ticket. Psalm the other one that does it, but on the only one that actually puts out content. So I actually have lots of videos for stop throwing mechanics, which is so it's just like systemically never been taught. Well, I mean, they just taught the risk flips some things and all the new baseball science of hitching mechanics, which has come a long way as not trickle down into softball. The just hasn't answer. Everyone's still teaching the drills they learned as a young kid or whatever when they were coaching, Lang whatever. So even high level players in dealing softball throw terribly many of them throw terribly but the field so small you get away with it. You don't get away with it in baseball. That's the fundamental difference. If you don't learn to throw properly, you will never play shortstop at even of our sea level. Certainly not in college certainly, not in college sterling on Pro Bowl. But. There's a division one players playing third base. Terrible find mechanics, but they're like physical girls. So they can like still get to her space fifty five miles per hour, and that's good enough to do the job essentially. But obviously, if you're sixty five, you can meet a lot more plays even at the level. So the really interesting thing it's as not trickle down and no one puts out on the web except for me. The John where we're at, I don't know just a niche that need to be filled so. But it's nice to help people because that's something that's very rudimentary. That can help people a lot. That's why I like doing it. The softball girls have lots of game. There's lots of women I can only play second base. I wish I could throw better I can only play second base I'd love to play bill less I the infielder the outfield can't because they don't have any arm and no one knows how to teach their mechanics. So. It's just like A. See Them James. A lot as players they get so much more other experience when they can play other positions is now they have an arm to make a shortstop or make a verbal now feel. So on the funny, you say that because the so the last few weeks I, I move our our teams, my youth programs moving into a new facility in Rosemont Rosemont Dome. It's right next to the Chicago bandits softball team, which is designed for NPF national pro fastpitch teams in the US and abandoned. There have been like an inaugural team whatever your, but this year they're doing like a bubble league I, think it's called athletes unlimited they you. So a lot of the girls were there working out before the? League. The League actually started yesterday I think was opening day but he had a lot of girls they're working out like professional softball players, a pool of sixty girls and they draft teams and ages play like this bubble league essentially four teams whatever and it's funny. You that because some of these girls are really really good athletes like you could just tell when you watch him throw I mean they just look like athletes and some of them throwing mechanics. It's Unorthodox to say the least it's like it's like not a very strong. Like I'm trying to decipher what positions he's micro. These girls might play as I. was basically putting my weight room together. So I was right by the batting cages. Some of the girls warming up on the side like down the line and he see some of the girls swinging the bat and some of them are hitting the ball real hard and it's fun. It's fun to watch softball because there's different. Philosophies on softball hitting like if you're a slap hitter against some speed and then there's girls that have some power but then I watch him like doolittle but a defensive practice, and like you said, it was a wide range of throwing mechanics and you really don't get that with baseball like if you what ninety nine percent of the guys in the big leagues like the best players in the world have. Dude throwing mechanics and very strong arms. With I wouldn't say that percentage nearly the same I mean, if there were fifteen girls working out I, can picture three or four, the head mechanics that. Were like. Like I was drawn to their mechanics because it was north docks. So it's it's you're probably right I mean if that's a professional level, right sixty, the best players in the world cat astrum is in the league like you would recognize the Olympic team. It's probably very rampant throughout college baseball. Youth Youth Softball Sorry, cal softball newsouth. You saw bad mechanics. Will it has get better the high level of share but I also like mid Tier John, Games mid and lower tier series, the northern. Virginia area. And those are you know like, Jima Georgetown. Any of those teams that are probably like one, fifty, RPI two, hundred rbi, something like that. And half the half the team has what you'd say where we're mechanics they could not play baseball were boy essentially A decent analogy like They they wouldn't be out of play with mechanics it wouldn't work. But they work at the softball field because it's just much smaller but it's about half I mean really half more like major glaring throwing loss at the dealer level. But just the physiology. And of course, the more key positions like the shortstop, not as much like third base, they're getting the ball. So so close to it's not along related is in baseball other charged up so much. Often are like in their glove really fast. Obviously say Baseman outfielders had better arms but. Catcher. Catcher first. Third, and second. Pretty consistently, very iffy arms and you wouldn't think as much about catcher but catcher diliah. Of. IFFY. Yeah S interesting that you say that now thinking back watching these perfect I mean he's sixty probably the top one hundred players in the world. All in one spot and I saw like I said twelve to fifteen of 'em working out daily and there were some noticeable a arm. You. Know. Glitches. Some this looks like they they weren't fluid enough to the. They would be. One in the big thing that I talk about that, no one talks about on the web at side arms should be the number one throwing method in the Infield for soccer players. Like. Salt Lake sidearm just like it is in baseball excitement is like the default for infielder in baseball. You know when you're in college or pros like. You throw it over the top when you got it and you got plenty of time you're gonNA throw side sidearm or if you've a short throw the quicker one, right it's in your hands out if you're charging, it has to be side on our side arm. And softball is everything is fast so fast is not getting over top because you can't do that and if you're charging it, you can't eat your shoulder till to actually throw over the top. That's why no one throws over the top when they're running, you can't actually tilt your shoulders. So that's why no matter. Even if you're running slow, they always throw side on we're below. But almost no girls store sidearm in softball either as infielders, which is really strange because they don't teach it. They think it's ineffective all. Again is like the history saw coaching. It's like side on some devil that only it seems like the highest levels had taught it very well, everyone else younger like don't Saddam's not good. They throw a while. They throw wildly because they don't get taught and they don't practice it like everything's bad if you don't practice it. So yeah. That's the thing that I think makes the most sense for the sport of change like softball. If every infielder learned a for a sidearm, it fit the game much more because it's a game short grows. So even the outfield when you charge balls outfielder. You're often getting it pretty close to the Infield then you have to like throw a second and third like. Anyway. So let's let's transition you WanNa talk about seeing pitches per plate appearance. You said the cubs at someone going on why you fill us in a little bit. So the at a dad something article talking about the cubs, the cubs are seeing I think it was like four point, two pitches per plate appearance. I'm not sure if it was this year last year it was just kind of us kind of asking like how important is that like it didn't seem to make a difference with the same last year they just struggled hitting all around like what is what is difference of the four pitches in an at bat one ten like if you're struggling hitting your Shirley hitting And I also think it's a it's probably an overrated stat at how many pitches somebody sees. But does it like I don't know if it doesn't correlate to being a good hitter seeing a lot of pitches it just it could correlate to being a patient hitter could correlate to being a like a Pesky hitter where you've fallen balls off. But I don't necessarily think it correlates to being a good hitter I. Think this with his dad was asking like how important is seeing pitches in an? And I. Think at the professional level it's probably more important strategically to see a few pitches. Based on where you hitting the lineup based on. What you know about the pitcher but at the youth level like college high school. I think you have to as as a hitter who's who's younger who probably have the back control and the? And the experience of seeing breaking pitches or pitches of slower speeds. I think you stink pitches totally overrated. If you get a good pitcher I, the first pitch at bat like that's the one you need take no. Put a good swing on. So. I'm not sure what Corliss of being a good hitter but I think at the younger levels being aggressive early in the count and not getting as deepen account is more beneficial as a hitter. And I would I always emphasize like look you'd be ready to hit the first fish. 'cause I pitch might be the best when you see and usually see teach a of young young pitchers. I mean there's a lot of guys that will ahead first pitch fastball and then go right to off-speed stuff for the majority of the rest at so. Does was coming from High School Dad, and my my point to him was that I'm not emphasizing seeing pitches to him until he's comfortable hitting all types of pitches which high school kids usually are not they're not used you're not comfortable hitting. Turbo sliders CHANGEUPS. So Do. When you had your academy, did you guys emphasize seeing pitches was? Is it ever talked about? I mean, it was talked about a little bit in pro ball, but not as much as maybe it's emphasize now. We talk about that. Wasser, valuable. Or as valuable is getting a single and being on basis the number one thing you can do Delfi. Team. So the most valuable thing, you can do essentially from like a run expectancy. Perspective is not making now it's the best thing you can do doesn't matter what you do just don't make now is the best thing to help your team score. So that's a walk. So be it. So we emphasize being selective. And getting epistle drive. But the caveat is if the first pitch is right down the middle, hit it like you gotTa, know what your pitches and then get. Really, it's just like anything else you're hunting for like you're digging a sandbox and you know that there's like six different little items, little treasures in your sandbox and you know you want the car. Wash does if he take one scoop in the cars there you're done, you want the other ones. You have to scoop up all the other ones I in the cars last. So be it. In it's kind of the same thing as an article about showed swing at the verse Bitch Because I. Think in the Dugout sometimes teams get Ron and this was a talking point with me one day. The Guy, one of the players was coming in the third inning. He's like let's go guys like he's thrown used to getting ahead. Early we gotta swing early we gotta get ready to swing on that I fit somebody why? Why ready to swing on the first pitch? You've no idea if it'll be a wall stripe. No idea. And if it is a strike, you don't know if it'll be your strike maybe on the outer corner is on the inside like you don't know until you see the bitch. So don't make an assumption that you're gonNA swing a diverse bitch. If you assume that you're swinging which what is a hit or do? They just end up being on the Front Foot because ray swing matter where it is they overcommit to it. So. I don't know what your take on that idea. I think the hitters mentality is. Yet like I'm swinging swinging swing till I recognize the pitch agree is not a not a hitters pitch so. I know what you're saying it's came off as like don't be ready to swing like I think you need to be. Anticipating like I'm swinging at every pitch regardless of. Regardless of where it is, and then once I recognize it, I, choose to take her I choose to give my swing off But I think the like when you when you emphasize like we need to see more pitches, we need to we need to get deeper in counts. The the first sentiment for a younger player is cameras going to start taking pitches and if the guy isn't is on his game he's going to be a one Oh to every single guy, and then it becomes nearly impossible to string together hits or have good innings when the pitcher just keeps getting ahead like statistically numbers. Wise. A one is tougher to hit than one. Oh, like or go to a really tough one to tough count. When you're behind in the count, it's tough to hit. And when you tell a kid like, hey, you need to see more pitches like I need you to see more pitches like I need you to see and swing at better pitches I. Don't need you this. Necessarily Miss Homework pitches exactly because you don't want to take a pitch on the outer half that he could drive. That's the problem it becomes it becomes A. A loose interpretation for them of like Oh coach wants me to take stuff. So you take the first pitch right on the Dick and then you're like, was that good like no like at any time at any time including three hours in the middle, maybe you should swing. So. Yeah. I think that I think it. Just it becomes difficult. That's what I destroyed. Saddam was like look. If you get your pitch like what is your pitch? Okay. Inner half. If you get your fastball does matter counters don't miss it Iraqi to drive it be ready to hit it. But like the whole idea of like I want you to take pitches. It's just really just. Hopefully means. Be. Selective and don't do anything borderline if you're GONNA, take a fastball for strike make sure it's the outer third fastball. He probably couldn't hit that hard. Like take that one. That's okay. Yeah. Don't take the one that's right down the middle. Don't think it's out outer half half. Like put a good swing on those. But take anything that's on the periphery of the play. Or. That's a borderline ball and that's the problem that kids get into a swing, a borderline pitches that they just get themselves out on. And that's confusing. Confusing to a kid, right? Same more pitches means I need to take pitches so I can see them like they're not gonNA interpret that as like it's okay to swing early if it's good, you need to tell them that like you need to be very literal with how you're emphasizing like approach when you're hitting and. The first step is kind of identifying what a good approaches would've pitch. We're looking for fastball almost one hundred percent of the time. Okay. We're looking for a fastball looking forward out or half out you know outer two-thirds. We're just we're taking the inner third where we're attacking everything else alike set your is there. But if I'm telling a kid like, Hey, we need to see more pitches like. Had A four pitching. He threw four balls right over the plate. We just in a get hits or do we swing at four balls in the dirt and ground back to the pitcher like there's a difference there's a there's a definitely a fundamental difference in how you see pitches in a game and at the big league level, their scouting reports, there's percentages like. Skyla Hendrick starts starts right. He's off with forty percent changeups like sit on a change up like if you get it. Take a goodson hack at it. You know if you get if you don't get it, we're gonNA take it whereas the youth level. We're looking for a fastball hopefully over the fat part of the plate swing at it like it's a different mindset. So You can't really just tell a kid, hey, I, need to see more pitches. Go Up there with that mindset 'cause they're going to they're just not gonNa know what to do. They're going to have striking out. Or walking if the guy's wild. Yeah, it's really dislike understanding what it looks like what the trajectory is a pitcher's hand that results in a pissed as borderline. And the best hitters are better at taking the ones that ad hand looks like it's going to be a borderline ball strike. because. They don't WanNa hit that anyway they don't WanNa hit it because they're going to get out so they're gonNA take as soon as they identified that pitch is going to be a borderline strike they take. And now they're not swing anything on the edges were the pitchers at the advantage because they all swing it those some a larger percentage of gopher balls. So now they're seeing more pitches and not swing bad bitches. So that's a double whammy of improving their odds of getting ahead. Amount would be we'll go for like joy does not swing bitches of the black unless it's two strikes and he's GonNa. Try to foul off. He's not swinging at a pitch on the black on the first pitch ever. Might Trouser very good. No they're very good hitters as opposed to someone who's the very good swinger where if you throw something in there swing like they're they're going to probably do a lot more damage to the pitch. Then maybe a joy vodka but joy battles such such a better hitter that he's going to do damage on more pitches. Okay understanding. So let's finish your your weird's grant date. You're weird statement on twitter you'd some. I didn't even understand what you're talking about. It felt like Aram will which Which Weird statement are you talking about? The weird statement that. Something a base I read your on said. Why can't pull it up on my phone but I said, I said at what point is being a good baseball player. Like where does that rank as far as being recruited by you know Kyle as a college coach My overall point was that. We don't emphasize being good at. The game of baseball like so many of the nuances of baseball like. I it came from a discussion. I was having a coach of mine where. Are, we were talking about our seventy are seventeen new team extreme near sixteen team. WHO's probably doesn't have like a top end division one talent on the team but they they were very good baseball players. All the kids knew they were supposed to be on the field like. The like when you watch a pregame with them, it's very Chris. Like everything is everything is fluid. They just don't have like the top you know eighty ninety arm they don't have the guy that runs and six five. They don't have the guy batting price the ball four, hundred feet. So my point was like showcases and this is kind of a big thing on twitter amongst the Jeff Frye she movement as like you pay offer showcases to showcase individual tools and talent. But nobody like there is no way to showcase being a really good player. and. I had a conversation with last week I did one on one meetings with coaches or coaches my players I was in an house talking to the wrong Mike Dole Day. Damn. Just. I heard you good. Guy On youtube just pointed out Dang it's bad. Well, it's better to better sound now. Sorry continue on. Say I had a conversation with one of my seventeen pitchers. who was he was like six and one this summer with like a sub one. But he's he asked me if he should do a showcase and before I could respond to him he goes I'm not really A. Pitcher he's like they're gonNA look at me and throw. He's like eighty eighty two is like I'm not going to stand out showcases I stand out more like when you watch me in the game. And I agreed with him I said you like he's very good pitcher. But being a very good pitcher necessarily doesn't get you to the next level that maybe you should go to or the next level that you aspire to go to because it's a lot of. What? How good is your individual tool? Like there's a lot of guys we played with that have really good tools that are terrible baseball players. Just instinctually fundamentally bad baseball players. So my overall tweet was just Kinda. Throwing a question outs anyone that follower reads anything I would tweet out as like at what point is being a good baseball player by factor into when you're recruiting someone mainly at the Division One level 'cause there's plenty of good baseball players at a lower level that would take division players spot with lesser. Tools. I don't know I have a good answer for that but. I don't know. Team Gate a requisite you need a requisite amount of tools obviously like you're not going to be eighty, eighty, two pitching in the SEC like we all know that right? There's a an occasional allies, but there's still. You know. Like. There's the basement. Right. There's a floor for your tools. And I guess at what point do you factor in like the kid being a good baseball player so if you're. If you're a shortstop who runs a seven Oh, and you hit eighty five off the tee and you throw eighty five across the diamond. But you're. You know your state champion like your leadoff guy on a bus team like you are the leader of the team. But then you've got the shortstop who runs a six five throws ninety five hits hundred off the tee like that kids clearly got better tools in bigger upside as a player but he's a he's a bad baseball player like he takes testbed bats he can't make routine plays like he's never in the proper position. He's not controlling the game as shortstop like at what point do you take the guy with the lesser tools? WHO's a better baseball player? And I don't. I. Don't know if there's like a like a you know. If you're measuring tools like if the guy this far below an anyone is watching could see me I'm a little bit below. My hands like do you take the better take the better baseball players as slightly lower like at what point where I'm going down on the totem pole of players does being a good baseball player not trump just. Better tools overall. I don't know I was just thrown out there and we were just bsn Have male vaccines that help you become a better baseball player to Quick Jab was a Dan Dan tweets. Brooklyn was on our game though while you're on vacation. Newly Brooklyn US leave her out of Sweden. She was Tweeden the hell out of the coach and Blewett. Twitter Handle These are uncorroborated statements. This is fake news. Well Thanks for listening. We're back here live on Friday. May. 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6-25-2020 Sports Talk

Lance McAlister

1:38:31 hr | 5 months ago

6-25-2020 Sports Talk

"Gary. Jeff, Walker time. Let's get to the headlines then we go. We start with Baseball Major League Baseball told clubs today they can schedule up to three exhibition games prior to the end of spring training to if a team at potential opponent is not located close to the team, they can choose to schedule their opening series opponent meaning say the reds open the season. July, twenty four th against. Against the cardinals, the reds and cardinals could potentially play on Monday Tuesday, maybe Wednesday of that week in Exhibition Games leading into the season opener that Thursday or Friday the NFL news today the Dallas Cowboys and Pittsburgh steelers preseason opener at the pro football hall of fame. In Canton, scheduled for August, the sixth has been canceled in the hall of Fame Enshrinement Ceremony on August eighth is being postponed. Postponed due to the coronavirus pandemic, the game and enshrinement had been moved to August of next year. The two classes will be celebrated separately next year. The two thousand Twenty Hall of Fame Class celebrated on Saturday August seventh next year. The two thousand twenty one class celebrated on Sunday August eighth of next year. How about the talent in the house in Canton? That weekend another NFL news the NFL announcing today and telling teams, they have the green light to begin selling advertising and placing logos on tarts that will cover the seats closest to the field in closest to the players, the idea being way to generate revenue and distance fans from players. If they are going to be fans in the stands at some Point College Football Note Lasalle Twenty Twenty one defensive back. Devante Smith. decommitted tonight from Ohio State, four star defensive back tap ten recruit in the state of Ohio. He had a boatload of offers including UC. And Kentucky and Notre Dame among others horse racing, Churchill downs, announcing it will have spectators. It will have spectators for the Kentucky Derby on September, the fifth. How many stay tuned to be determined by the way another NFL note thirty three days out from the start of training camp for most teams NFL saying today they expect camps to open on the normal scheduled Gulf, PGA. The Travelers Championship Connecticut about Mackenzie Hughes a ten under sixty today ten under sixty. He's three shots up on. Rory Mackenzie Hughes played on Sunday at. At the heritage and shot a seventy eight, he comes back in his and the very next round. He shoots a sixty by the way. The Xavier Product Jason Co crack even through seventeen racing. It's now a five race weekend for the Kentucky speedway Mark Steyn Dinger's jumping up and down in his house. Due to a scheduling adjustment, the general tire, one fifty Arca series race originally scheduled for Charlotte has now been relocated to Sparta for Sunday July. Are Saturday Saturday July seventh at two thirty, it will happen prior to the buckle up your truck to twenty-five, which will now run at six, so that's five races in four days at the Kentucky speedway and finally. Liverpool in the English Premier League ended a thirty year drought today, capturing the Premier League Championship Filing Manchester United's loss to Chelsea. Liverpool has been dominant this year winning eighteen zero one point, they've won twenty eight matches this year drawn twice and lost once the entire year I. Bring this up. For this reason. They are the Liverpool reds. They entered a thirty year drought their last championship in Nineteen Ninety, so I'm officially declaring twenty twenty two year. The reds because the Cincinnati reds are working on. On a thirty year drought, so it only makes sense to connect all the dots in the Cincinnati Reds will when you're twenty twenty world series, that is the way my brain thinks, and I'm sticking to it all right. Let's do this I I did something last night i? Don't like doing I set something up and then didn't give you a chance to to address the matter. We got busy early in the show last night. We talk with Tom Nichols the outstanding play-by-play voice. Voice of the Dayton dragons, and I brought him on to kind of give his assessment of how the new X. turning rule is has worked. He's seen it for the last two years in the minor leagues with the Dayton dragons. It is coming to Major League baseball this year, and then by the time we really got up and running in switched in the next hour or two the fifty year anniversary of the final year at Crossley and that turn into a big topic and I. I never presented an opportunity I took a poll question was running about sixty, one, thirty, one in favor, or at least being okay with what Major League Baseball is gonNA. Do so I'd like to get your assessment of that. It's a sunk in over the last couple of days and I know this upfront I know There's a sense of swimming upstream it in this because we are traditionalist for the most part in this town. Purist in this town baseball was first played professionally here. Many in this towns cling to memories of the past the way things used to be. They liked the big red machine. There are those who cling to two batting, average and RBI and pitchers won loss records. They reject the analytics of the new age modern baseball like things upgraded. They like things the way they are. You know what you like in. You know what you want and you know what you don't like. I'm curious Nahla you've had some time. Now that you've consider the circumstances for this twenty twenty season the circumstances facing the game facing the country, the reasoning behind going to a rule that the minor leagues have used for the past two years. What you if you are! How should I put this if you're willing to accept it? Accept it in theory all right I get the times and the circumstances I get that it's going to be this season. I can live with it or do you simply rejected out of hand as as a break from tradition that takes the game in too far a different direction from what you can reasonably enjoy as a fan in the end. If a game goes extra innings in the tenth, each team is going to begin the inning with a runner on second base. It can be as simple as that, and yet that crosses some lines in the eyes of some that breaks with tradition in the eyes of some. It's It's been called Gimmicky. It's been said just because the minor leagues used. It doesn't wise the major league dropping down their level to it. I've heard that something. You get in beer league softball and yet. We're going to get it this year like it or not. I guess I'm seeking your level of embrace for it as we continue, that'll be our starting-point tonight. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred, odd at and T.. I've thought a lot about Tom. Nicol said last night about the strategy behind. It and I've also thought about this. I, did it ask this question who likes extra ratings? Because the players don't like extra innings. The media doesn't like extra innings. Find me an extra inning game that people stick around for I would. I would say if you google extra. INNING, baseball games and watch videos. You'd be able to count the number of fans in the stands. Why because they said I'm out of here I'm not sticking around for this thing that is going to drag on and I don't know when it's going to end. It may be twelve or thirteen or fourteen or fifteen or sixteen innings. Nobody's sticks around for and I. Guarantee You this because I've seen the numbers. TV ratings ooh down radio ratings. Wu Down. People don't stick around for X-rays, so if the players don't want to doing it and nobody's watching it. It's like if a tree falls in the forest during extra innings. Nobody's there. Does that make a noise? So. What is the fascination of being worked up about something that nobody really is? Really fights for. What fifteen innings I would add general managers to the list. I know darn well. They don't like extra innings so in the end. Who really likes it? and. What is the PUSHBACK FOR IT I? That's what I don't get unless it's just you know. I need something to complain about today and Major League Baseball's changing rules, so I'm going to complain about that. Your calls as we continue its sportstalk carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet at seven hundred wliw. Six, twenty five seven hundred wwl wrol carrier sports presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance McAlister. Thanks for hanging out tonight Let's get involved baseball topic early challenges to embrace the new the challenges to embrace different. The challenge is to understand the times, and I would add to understand the timeframe, because nobody says that this new extra innings rule and Major League baseball is going to become a thing of the future. All they've said. said to this point is it's a thing for twenty twenty short spring training leaves Guys Verona vulnerable to injuries, and you don't want to run the risk. Raise the risk of injuries to already challenged rosters, as it is by extending games so major league baseball in the starting in the tenth inning. This year we'll begin with each team placing runner on second base. It will be the the last out of the previous sitting he. He begins the inning at second base. It has been described by some as gimmicky has been described by others as a a quicker fix to a solution that could become a a a bigger problem. No general manager likes and there have been calls made in the middle of games that have gone thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen innings there had been general managers who have called their AAA teams in the middle of their games and. And said hold back that player that Pitcher, specifically we might need a fresh arm, and at the end of those twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen in Games where you have used up three arms. Did you can't use the next day? You have to make a roster transaction and go down to the minor leagues and make a transaction to bring fresh arms. That seems a long way to go for something that can be rectified. In much simpler fashion like this rule Jj Cooper or baseball America. tweeted yesterday afternoon in the two years prior to the rule change in the minor leagues. Games ended after one extra inning forty five percent of the time. Under regular extra inning rules, they end forty five percent of the time after just after one inning that jumped to seventy three percent of the time with the new rule so seventy three percent of the time the game was resolved after. Meeting with the new rule, that's what everybody wants. He had pointed out the in the two years prior to the rule change, there been one hundred and thirty three games in the minor leagues that went thirteen or more innings in two, thousand, sixteen in two, thousand, seventeen, hundred and thirty three of them. They changed the rule. Five Games in two thousand, eighteen in two thousand and nineteen went thirteen innings or more. I get I. I'll say it isn't. This will get me in trouble I would. This is this is a little bit further than I would go. I'd simply and I'm okay. With ties I I said it I don't see what the big deal is. If a game ties after nine I don't know what the big deal is saying after nine. All right we get one inning of this will play the ten. If it's tied, it's tie. It's not like splitting the atom. Figured out if you win a game, you get two points. If you tie game, you get one point and you're able to look at the standings, and it says your record, and then it says the points you've total. It's not that hard. It's not like nobody's ever done it before. I just don't think it's I. Just don't think it's that big. A deal compared to what you run the risk of versus little reward. Because I don't know anybody that champions extra innings. That's been my argument all along. Lexington Jeff. You're on seven hundred WWL W. Land. Just call in and plus thanks. This is a rule that is way overdue I think they should stick with it. and I usually lean on a baseball pure side, but. This game that go you know fifteen sixteen innings during the week I mean no one gets to see the game at yes. I don't benefit to that I. Remember a couple of years ago. Erin Harangue had to come in and pitch six or seven, and if you're able to seize them. In the same it sure did. It was a Sunday game against the padres and went fifteen or sixteen, and you're right. It changed the course of his career. Yeah it really didn't. He was never the same after that and I've seen it done at the youth level and competitive tournaments just You can't have those games back to back right and it's exciting started getting like that it's. Those Games. Some of the reds always seemed like they had him on Sundays, but those games. Seven o'clock no one's watching at the end I. don't see the benefit of yeah. Hey, thanks, buddy. When we can. I want to get into the strategy because that's what I'm trying to get people to embrace, who fold their arms on a like? This is ridiculous understand. There's a new element of strategy and unknown to this and I would think I would bet. Most of the people folding their arms. Saying this is a dumb idea. I bet you like bunting now. That's not being critical. So this has resurrected to a large extent. Bunting in extra innings, so I think you'd like it. From that standpoint Attaran, blade likes it from that standpoint. That's good enough for me. It is six thirty. Let's check news over. The reds are l.. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred W W. Six thirty, seven seven hundred wwl wrol, carrier courts dot, presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. L. Carriers your global transportation. Provider visit our LLC DOT COM and Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July. Think of the strategy think of the new strategy involved with thinking along with the game in a manager in wondering what might happen and the drama in the build up to that. I thought Tom Nichols. Pre presented a perfectly last night, comparing it to college football's overtime and being the team that goes second in the baseball analogy. It's being the home team, the visitor bats, and once they do their thing then the home team batting at the bottom of the inning. They know what they need. If the home t, the visitor doesn't score in the top of the tenth. Then you go to the bottom tent, knowing all right I've got my runner on second. Let's bring him over to third and let's let's look to sacrifice fly to get him in or maybe a pass baller a wild pitch. But if the visiting team scores a couple, then your way of doing things changes in the bottom of the inning knowing I can't play small ball. I can't play for one run I need a beginning here. He joked last night Tom. Nichols Day that there could be leadoff to run home runs in extra innings. Now 'cause you'll start with a runner on second and your leadoff batter hits a home run. It's a two run homer I think it adds an element of intrigued to a season it has. A good amount of intrigue attached to it of what sixty games going to be like what's going to our team's going to go with a four man rotation, or they're going to go with a six man rotation. How's this GonNa play out I just I fall back on, and I tweeted this second ago. If if nobody if virtually nobody makes the case for liking extra innings. Where does support come from? It almost seems like it's one of those. That's the way we've always done it. Things and I've never bought that as a good enough reason to keep doing things because we know more, we learn more as we go we we understand so much more about the game baseball compared to years ago. We know now that batting averages. Rb is our opportunities won loss percentage who cares I mean we. We learn as we go, and part of that is. Would anybody today inventing? Are we say what anybody invented the game baseball? Hold a news conference AA. Here's this new game. We're GONNA. Play one hundred sixty two games. We're GONNA play from April October. Would anybody say today? We're GONNA do this thing and they're gonNA. They're gonNA. Take three hours to play. Play it. Oh, by the way if there is not a winner after nine. We're just GONNA. Keep playing. Keep playing and keep playing and play some more. Even though nobody's going stick around, even though nobody's watching, even everybody's listening. We're just GONNA. Keep doing it because well. Somebody told us there was a tradition in the old days. And that's the way they did it, so that's the way we're going to do it. Go to the phones Jerry. You were on seven hundred WWL W. Yeah. You sure explain what my question. Again be their land. Okay! They're tied. Start that ten sending or They could run around second. There's no. No outs like you're supposed to right correct, and what will happen, Jerry, whoever made say if Joey votto made the last out for the reds in the ninth inning, and it goes extra innings than Joey becomes the runner that goes to second base to start the next in. Our you could jerry if you wanted. If say it's a slow runner and you think well. It's going to be tough to bunt him over to third. You can always pinch run for that player, but you gotta take him out of the game and you somebody off your bench. Got The thinking there with there's no out. They own second. Released two long fly balls. Pretty runner you go can get. Tired. The. Big In Iran the other came. They get a chance. Yes, then they don't get what they did. The game's over could. On corrales. Here he thank you appreciate your listening. Thanks for the call. I did this in poll question forum last I can tell you it's one of the more surprising poll results. Again I like doing questions like that and it was running sixty one thirty nine. Thought in this town. In a town where we're both professional baseball began. Die. Hard traditional purist I would've never thought sixty one percents would say I'm cool with extra innings. An starting with the runner on second base I was very pleasantly surprised Westchester. We go. What are you say Jeff? I'm okay, what do you make of all? This helped me out here. Hey. You both sides of the coin. I'm not in favor. Of the rule change. But. Baseball has done this to themselves. They had expanded the Games to You know three hours. Whatever long by? Doing their own thing between PICCI's. Guys not being able to on guys, not being able to hit behind runners Has Basically destroyed the game I mean now. It's twenty nine hundred again. Yeah, trying to hit it as far as you can. There's a lot of home runs strikeouts or walks now in baseball. That's it. That's the three topics that that gather attention and based on themselves You've gotta get butts in those seats and you gotTa. Keep them there and you got to do whatever you gotTA. Do to save I understand the game. So for if if I were to tell you and this is, this is the case right now. If I were to tell you, this will just be for this season, could you could? Could you cut a hold your nose and deal with it for sixty games and then take it back to normal next year. I think once you implemented, and I would be willing to go one step further home. Okay, I would be willing to go to all right, so you played the innings and it's still too to. You're. GonNa Start to eleven ending with the runner out there who make it move more one step closer all right. We're going to. We're going to speed the game up. And WE'RE GONNA. Try to make it as exciting as we possibly can again. You don't want people leaving in the seventh eighth inning. You want them there till the end. Of Eight something to get young folks you know these younger folks back in the stadiums that is. That's the word of the night. Cultivate something for the young folks and they're no question in baseball needs to do that. And I'd like to finish with this. I. Just want to say thanks for what you do. Oh, with all the stuff we've got going on in this country today. You make us laugh sometimes your tickets off. But at the end of day you make us think a little bit and I appreciate it. Thank you, Jeff, thank you very kind of you. Appreciate your chickening call again sometime. Okay all right, thank you that made my night. That is kind of like my game plan going in I don't think I could have said it any better. Yeah I. Just I said this before. I I'm just guessing the last thing you need at six o'clock in the day you had dealing with what you're dealing with, and probably hearing what you're hearing and reading what you're hearing. The last thing you need is to be further, agitated or angry or yelling or ranting, and raving and I said this many times I operate in the toy department of life, and have some fun, and do some thought provoking stuff and in the end are we somebody? Last night sent me a message. I hope you don't take offense to me. You know challenging something I. Forget what we were debating I, said heck no sports. At the end of the night. Whether you agree or disagree, it's just it's just an extra inning rule for baseball in the pecking order of importance in life right now, the extra inning role and Major League baseball is way down here and everything else is way up here so I figured. Heck, let's let's get all excited and worked up about putting a man on second base and we'll talk a little baseball. You could if you wanted to. Do you know we could just cut to the chase of all this? Just play seventeen games. Never. I'm not I'm not making that a topic. If you, WanNa make better topic, call and talk to Dave about that offaire. CORRECT MYSELF UP! That is that's not what I had a really good point that all extra innings beer sale. Stop after what the seventh inning anyway so it. Again there will be when I say this I know there's always somebody who says well I'm going to be the exception of what he's GonNa prove. There is somebody somebody will call and say they're hurt is set on winning games I get that, but in general I promise you. Go Look Online for an extra inning game. And go into the twelve, thirteen fourteen fifteen. You'll be able to count the fans in the stands. People unless it's like a postseason game. Of course, people don't hang around for him so and I say they should all seriousness. Players don't like extra innings. I can guarantee you the media and beat writers on deadline extra innings death. General managers don't like in his games. Go on thinking Oh we got a game tomorrow afternoon. Am I gonNA be able to get somebody from AAA to here to be the fresh armed replace arm because I've used. We'd use three guys tonight. Who've all thrown at least twenty-five pitches in this thing out of the Bullpen Oregon thirty? You won't be available tomorrow, so start calling the okay. Get word manager in the AAA dugout. Tell him to not throw. Don't let him pitch pitchers X Y and Z because I might need to call them up pitch for us. Nobody likes that. So where does the ground swell come from those saying the UC Chris's and others Jason on twitter, thanks for the tweet Atlanta, mcallister he says I'm sorry. It's a stupid rule. It's worse than the D. H. Agent Far Worse Than College time which I which I like he says. It's a stupid rule. Why is it a stupid is there? Is there another way you'd? Maybe that's the question I need to ask. Is there another way you'd rather? It be done, is it? Is it just the idea of? Doing something different than than we do with extra ratings. Or is it? Is there a better way you think it could be done? Maybe I've waited too long to ask that question. Maybe that's at the core of the problem. Again over here. Tie! Game bind by me. I'd make the case Hey. What we're giving you the tenth and here's here's your drama. You get the tenth. Tied we're going home. Six forty seven Sportstalk, seven hundred WWL W. Bond seven o'clock news time six six minutes. It's curious sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Thanks for all the tweets tonight, twitter conversation very good twitter feed presented by barley corns, three locations in northern Kentucky. Yes, they're open. visit barely corns dot com for more information. Had He know baseball's back this week? I have added three hundred thirty seven followers since Monday's. Monday's announcement of baseball's return so a welcome to new followers, a welcome back to those without baseball who went away into everybody who has found their way to Atlanta mcallister, three hundred and thirty seven new followers I guarantee you. That is related to the return of baseball. So thank you Atlanta. Callister love to have you on board in be in to be. Be a part of the show. Let's work on some calls seven o'clock era meet. We may have to roll this over a little bit into the a guest. Seventy six may have to pick this up around seven twenty or so 'cause. I love the input and my guy see were. Was that tweet? Oh my God. Don Helbig tweets and says. Says I'm as much as Jewish list is anybody when it comes to baseball but I'm ready to accept it embrace the extra innings rule ad strategy to the managers keeps fans in the stands watching on TV and listening on the radio, there will be a new a built in fascination of ood. How's this GonNa work going to do this? They in the end. The rich played one hundred sixty two games last year fifteen of them. What x ratings so I mean? It's not I've. I was get the argument. Why are you mess with? Messing with it, it doesn't happen enough and my my rebuttal has always been. That's exactly why you quote mess with it. It happened so infrequently. Don't let it become an issue. Just take care of it rather than deal. With the fifteen times there's a circus of fourteen or fifteen or sixteen innings or twelve innings or eleven innings just deal with it. Get it taken care of. If it's happening I just I've never understood. The argument of doesn't happen enough to worry about it will, but if it doesn't happen very much, just take care of it, so it doesn't happen at all dead. Back to the phones and Joe Is on seven hundred wwl w. what did you say Joe? I'm doing great. How about you? I'm good okay, so I would say. I'm a traditionalist at least in the sense that pictures should back that stuff's nightmare. School. Yeah, this is not a good week for you with all these changes. That actually I I like this rule. I think it's great I'm not a fan of creating I want to build on what Jeff said actually yeah I was GonNa in the other thing he was going to run around third to try to get the game over. If it was built out after ten I would argue that getting into third or still too much of a chance that both teams get one run in and go to the next inning. So what I would do is after the tenth inning of the eleventh inning. You start with runners on first and second. And then the often you start with the bases loaded. It goes that far. That would that would stop at shake it up and if you get through the tenth inning, the eleventh any give extremely likely to something loose, and after that bases-loaded. Who knows what'll happen very interesting I'm going I'm going to jot that down. That's not that's not bad. Hey, I'm glad you called. Thanks for listening. Have a good night about Anderson. We go Tom. You're on seven hundred WWL W. Lance landseer, you I'm. I have no complaints right now. I'm having a good night. Thanks for calling. You're welcome. I'm a traditionalist to I used to be I'm fifty eight years old. You say I'll never. My attitude changed about three years ago. Okay, I'm now all in on the H. I love this this. Expert in rural. Okay, the strategy that goes with it that the. It's just crazy. Yes and one thing that's really good about this. Is Billy, Hamilton? Compelling stay in the major leagues for one year. Can you imagine if you had somebody like that to come off your bench? Say All you just. You're like the designated texter during guy. Back. So, We're. Talking about baseball. and. That is the I'm making the color of the first hour. Because for all the rambling I've done. You summed it up perfectly. A baseball conversation beats. Baseball negotiations. I'm ready for twice twenty thirty four and let them they're. Good here from you, Tom Thanks. Take Care I. You know it's funny. I've heard a lot about billy Hamilton's role in this I. Don't know. I don't know it would certainly be nice to have. I don't think you could if you already had it. I don't think you could go out and seek it to add to. Although the argument can be made you. You've added a roster spot this year. They're gonNA. Carry twenty-six under normal conditions. But what had happened frequently enough like last season, the reds played fifteen extra inning games. Could you justify stashing Billy Hamilton on your roster? As a designated extra inning, pinch, runner and defensive replacement, maybe a little bit easier with twenty six guys on the roster? But yeah, that's part of the strategy. Whoever that because if say, it is joy, joy bottle makes the final out of the ninth, and that will make the bottle detractors happy because they'll say see, he couldn't win the game in his final at Bat. If he's. Out, then you're probably not going to pinch run for him in the ten th are you and take his bat out of the order I know you can make the argument, but I WANNA end it right now, but man. Can you take whoever it is? Can you take your baby? It's a Charlie Blackmon are Mike Trout or anybody Eric cody bellinger. Can you take what your? What are your best bats out if? If, they're the runner at second base to begin the next inning or you're going to have. Are you going to pinch run for him? Then you're gonNA have to take a player out. subsitute a new one. He's going to have to play the same position or then you're going to have to burn another. See what I'm saying. It can get kind of tricky and that's. That's all part of the strategy of all this. And Man if you are the home team, and you get to watch and see, it's like in football if the first team only kicked a field goal in overtime well or if they didn't even kick a field goal and they didn't score. Then you can play for the field goal to win the game. Love the strategy of all that up next. The author of a book. Who opened up a pack of one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty six. Kurds and said I'm going to drive cross country and track down an interview. Every player in the pack that I just opened, and he wrote a book about it. That is next on the home of the red seven hundred WWL W. The following takes place between seven PM and eight PM. All right, let's keep it rolling seven Oh nine seven hundred wwl w. it's carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet nothing like a good extra reading debate for the first hour, the show tonight at a runner on second base. I I'm very much looking forward to our next guest I think this may be the single greatest idea for a sports book. I've ever heard when I when I first heard about it I thought. Why did I think of that, and then I said Heck. I kinda like to do this just on my own one time. What what our next guest listen to this concept? He took a single pack of baseball cards from Nineteen. Eighty six opened it. And then embarked on a quest to find all the players in that pack of cards. And he wrote about it. The book is titled. The, wax, pack on the Open Road in search of baseball's afterlife, the author of that book is Brad Baluch Japan, and he is my guest on seven hundred W W hey, Brad. Lance, you have my blessing. Before. I. It's funny because I I didn't realize this until doing a little bit of research and all this right off the bat. True or false this idea this book idea was rejected over thirty times before you actually got off the ground. At thirty eight. That's right made. How did the idea to take me to the moment in time where you were when you said you know what I'm going to try this? Well really it is an idea that had been just dating for some time. I was watching gave the Oakland Coliseum back in twenty fourteen, when I really started to kind of take action on it But I as a kid growing up in collecting cars, the eighties I always wondered what happened to the guys that I grew up with I was always a strange kid, and my favorite player is worthy Marty Barrett in the Don, carmine world the underdog guys. And so I always wanted to do it. Where are they now? Kind of project and I thought you know really just the idea of the pack being the perfect device for a book that was sort of one of those like you know out of the ether Eureka moments than I realize. Oh, that'd be a great way to get a random sample of a manageable number of guys how many Kurds were in the pack and give us a some of the names eventually that were part of this. Church so fifteen cards, so one of them was a checklist so that. Didn't quite know what to do with that one, but of the remaining fourteen thirteen, the guys were alive. Al Cowan's only got passed away, and it ranged from the obscure hymie coconut our to the hall of Fame Carlton, Fisk and pretty much everything in between. Wick sutcliffe Garry Templeton Masili, van ready Gary Pettus Coleman Dot. Good in these are some of the names in their. Did it. Take me through the process of, did you? Did you contact them and seek? The green light before leaving the house or did you hit the road in search? And then we're going to ask a could we do? How did it unfold that way? Ten months of research ahead of time where I had set things up with most of the guys, and most of them were really generous and gracious to neither me. I I did get red lights along the way so Carlton. Fisk was talk to me. so when I ran into obstacles, though I I decided to build that into the narrative, so the book is really. It's really a on the road adventure story. You know it's. It's written I'm a I'm a very active character in the book. I talk about my own like how relates to what I'm doing in the book and then I go on some kind of wild goose chases like the calls and says. I ended up. MILLIONARE's by the. Golf course to try to ambush him up to that that. Really you know may made it a little more interesting I love. This gives us an idea. I travel mode you used and how many days where you got. And how many miles did you cover? Well Luckily I'm a college professor so I have a nice block off in the summer, so was able to dry eleven thousand, three, hundred forty one miles in seven weeks in the summer of Twenty fifteen and And went all over the country all the way to. Northern New York and back, so it was yeah, it was quite an adventure, did you? Once you found each player? Did did you just was strictly an interview? Did you do activities with them? What? What was the moment like once? You actually met him. Well, that was one of the fun. Parts of this book is that I did all kinds of things so I went to an art museum with one guy went fully the gyms thinking that a hitting lessons showed showed one guy out of use tender. You know went to the zoo. Don Car of it, I mean really it's It was very active. You know, and that was very intentional I knew. Not only would guys probably more comfortable doing something besides you know staring at each other across the coffee table but also from a writing perspective I, it just a lot more interesting to you know the style that I use the book is that? That literary new journalism style where I'm describing the environment that the city, and so it's it's very cinematic in that way, and I knew a lot more interesting for the reader to vary the kinds of settings. Yeah I I recall reading various reviews and I am going to order the book I seem to recall. You took a hitting lesson from rance mullenix correct. That's right and it was really embarrassing. Only had to talk about car was a whistle back. Having this. Bona fide major league player like breakdown his Charlie. Lau inspired swing with a yellow plastic and It's actually actually put it on I except the one thing I I, I? Don't know why. Take video on the trip but I did film that and. it's amazing. How even with silly toy in his head ranch politics? When I had him replicate his swing, you could see like the how you know. Just how good he was that descend professionalism in is in his movement. The book is The wax pack on the Open Road in search of baseball's afterlife It's a single pack of cards, one, thousand, nine, hundred six, and then the fifteen players, the process of tracking those players down. For All that time on the road by yourself in a car. There's a Lotta time to reflect I. Mean there's probably a lot of reflection you'd be at about yourself. Your Life Times I am I right. Yeah I did I talked very openly in a book about my own failures. Struggle with OCD and various things, and they know how that relates to what I learned from the players, and you know one of the best part is that I was amazed at how open and vulnerable. These guys are willing to be for example Steve Yeager. A catcher for the dodgers known for being this. You know Kinda tough boisterous guy. Actually let his guard down enough to share things with me like When he he grew up in Dayton Ohio and when his dad went to see him play for the first time in Cincinnati, he he got so drunk. You passed out in the clubhouse. And yeager comes back from the game and you know scientists. Father passed out in the clubhouse. He'd never wanted his dad to come. See play again. You know some of those really some pretty weighty stories like that of the. They came out that you might not have ever. been aware of. Have you. You probably get this a lot. Have you thought of? A second pack for a second book. What say I'm blessing you with. You Know I. It is such a fun idea. You could use a different sports for years but I. I personally don't want to do a sequel because I feel like I wouldn't be I. Don't think I could do as well. A second time allowed I. Mean I think I'd I'd have the curse of most sequels, which is hard to live up to the original so I'm content to let someone else do it and you know. Go On to other projects. HOW DIFFERENT! Releasing a book is certainly a challenge releasing a book in these times, even more challenging I would imagine the last three months, or so you would have in a perfect world been travelling the country doing book signings in various Howell. Has All that play played out from that standpoint? Yeah, you know. I had this thirty five stop book tour planned, and it was really disappointing to to cap the cancel hopefully down the road. I can do it, but you know there's been some silver linings that a bunch of us out baseball books coming out and have all come together for this group called the pandemic baseball. Book Club where we're actually helping each other, promoting each other and I've made a bunch of new sense of that. That is excellent for those listening who want to get their hands on it. How can they get the wax pack? Yeah you go to wax. Cock Book Dot Com you can find out how to order it and I'm pretty active on twitter at lax pack book if anyone watched to get in touch. This. This was really cool I. Just I fallen in love with this concept and really I thought what? What a cool idea for a book! I can't wait to get my hands on it and congratulations on this and best of luck with it. Thank not now you've got to read it lands, and it's you know. Let me. Know what you're actually think. Once you couldn't say exactly right I will do that. Brad thanks for the time tonight. Thank you right. Take care there. You Go Brad, Baluch, Jian the wax pack on the Open Road in search of baseball's after life. It's just so. Can you imagine just eighty six pack of tops open it up and your thumbing through it and say and wound up. Was rance Mullenix and Garry. Templeton and Don, Karma Karman and Steve Eager Rick Sutcliffe, Dwight. Gooden Randy. Ready Gary Pettus. Who they say, AL, callans had the royals APP had had passed away, and I want to say, and I didn't want to reveal too much of it. just through the interview but I. WanNa say. Gary Pettus was the oldest and listening to his other interviews. He's done Gary Pettus was the only player who didn't talk to him. That was living because Gary patsies working for the Astros and the Astros kind of put a gag order at the time just on everybody in general for doing interviews, so he wasn't able to to talk with Gary Paddocks, but man hitting lessons with ramps, mullenix and watching Kung Fu movies with Garry Templeton. He went to the zoo with Don. Carman, that's the really cool thing. It's one thing to attractive doubted. It'd be neat but. If you're just sitting there. Doing Qa liked what was your most memorable moment in your career, but the actual the idea of going out and doing stuff with them, and whether it's eating lessons or movies or the zoo or something else, and then incorporating that into the book cannot wait to get my hands in the book that is, that's a heck of an idea. The wax pack on the Open Road in search of baseball's afterlife. What did he say? Seven weeks eleven thousand, three, hundred forty one miles of driving to to track everybody now Lubbock. Will Get We'll get back into a little bit more on the X. Ratings clean up some stuff there. If you have final thoughts, notes on the extra innings rule in major league baseball got a couple of bengals topic to add to the mix. I saw a list. I love list. I saw a list at Kennedy broken narrative shattered a narrative about the Bengals, which I which I think you'll find interesting as well I'll share with you as we continue our no carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey, Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Seven twenty five seven hundred wwl Wjr, now carriers ports doc presented by Kilson Chevrolet by the why by the way shout out to Katie Robinson the pride of southeast Indiana South Dearborn High. School at Aurora, she was named the coach and director of swimming and diving at North Western. Northwestern wildcats, the big ten. She is a a legend in South Dearborn. The Aurora area South Dearborn High School graduate eleven time Merican in swimming at the University of Texas so that note today. Today. CONGRATS to Katie. Shout Out! Let's take care of some business. Wrapping up the idea we talked earlier now that you've had a couple of days to process, and we talk with Tom Nichols last night to explain how it's played out two years in the minor leagues, watching at the strategy involved what you make of Major League Baseball, going with extra innings starting with a runner on second base for each team we had to Louisville and Jim is on seven hundred wwl W hey jim. Hey lands. How are you? Thank you for calling. Hey I wanted to Bring up three points about the extra inning rule that is be number one. Is that the first time that I saw this whirlwind? Clay is when women's college softball used it. Probably about four to five years ago, so a part of me says well, that was proposed by somebody else so baseball shooting use it, but I think I will like it and let me tell you why. at the we're on a slippery slope that as we. Look, at the end of the year. They're gonNA. Say that the average game time. The reds played seventeen extra inning games. Last year, so that's going to go down from your staff that you gave about it going from forty five per cent ending in the tenth inning to seven seventy three. The average time is going to go down and I think you're gonNA. See Media. Coverage of well, you know this quickens the game you know and this gotTa keep this role so i. think it's here forever. Be Very Interested I. Think I can't wait to see how those who don't like. It now wants it plays out now. I can you imagine what an extra rating show will be like one night where the reds lose extra innings where David Bell may be chooses not to bunt they'll be. The conversations will be endless, but you know what I love baseball conversation so I'll take it. Right, and the last comment I have to say, and you brought up about David Bell and and one are one run for last year. Yes, and your previous caller mentioned Billy Hamilton, but I think we have a better solution, and that's going to be shogo. Either putting him at second base or having him pinch hit. To run. That are slapped up all around to advance the runner. And I think bad. Make cost him some starting at that. Going forward because wow, we really want him and that that tenth inning. Can't can't wait to see plays out a jim thanks buddy. I have a great night yet I mean it's all the the strategy on the fly and you know I was thinking about this earlier when the commissioner I, Major, League, baseball announced today that they'll allow teams to play up to three exhibition games and that. If I I was thinking. Does it serve any purpose? If the reds played a couple to do? You probably wouldn't need to do test runs. I mean you can work on that during spring training anyway scenario, starting in any runner on second I guess maybe from a broadcasting standpoint. Maybe say if we could if we could play an exhibition game spring training game on Monday and Tuesday of the week are season opens then we. It's kind of a test run for the broadcasters what it's going to but then again then you're just you're running the you're using players that you're gonNA use later in the week. When your season does begin so maybe not I. If you missed, Baseball said you can schedule up to three exhibition games. The last week of Spring Training Training. If there's not a team around, you could technically say all right. We are scheduled to open the season versus picketing. The brewers hey, Milwaukee. Do you want to come to Cincinnati at the start of the week? We'll play in an exhibition game on Monday Tuesday maybe Wednesday, and then we'll start our season on Friday the schedule. Major League Baseball, the athletic saying. He's not out yet and now not expected to be out for. I WANNA say it said for another week or so. The players have signed off, but. Now I've lost tweet here is there likely won't be a major league schedule announcement until next week, clubs have to review and also finalize times. I would love to be a fly on the wall of that process of putting together this schedule on the fly up next I saw a story on ESPN this week that compare the quarterback play of every NFL team during the Super Bowl era and then ranked the franchises so. So we're talking about the quarterback play of every TV from nineteen, sixty six back to the Super Bowl to to twenty nineteen, fifty four years of quarterback play, and they ranked the franchise's best to worst. Where do you think they ranked the Bengals quarterback play during that time? I'll give it to you years. We continue on the home of the reds. It's aren't carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. Seven thirty, eight seven hundred wwl wrol carriers sportstalk. Kelsey Chevrolet Oh. Forget gamble and the house tonight at nine. They'll take you. said. You're Jeff Walker earlier. Of course. It's Thursday nights. Gamble at Vineyard realitycheck nine to midnight. 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How about I couldn't tell you the last time we had a bengals topic. Until right now. Let's see what we can do with this I like list. And I like things that break narratives. What is the national narrative about the the bengals and about well say their quarterback play. How many times do we hear a leading up to the NFL draft? Joe Burrowed at Monaco Cincinnati quarterback ride yard career ender. They're dead. End Street in Cincinnati. No quarterback wants to go to Cincinnati well ESPN. This week may have been last I of held onto this for a couple of days trying to find a spot for it. ESPN THROUGH THEIR ESPN plus ranked every franchise by quarterback play in the Super Bowl era. Going back to nineteen sixty six season, so it's fifty four years of football. And they looked at the performances turned into the quarterbacks every franchise and they rank them based on overall performance peak performance continuity. They added it altogether. Put it in the computer. Computer spits out rankings one through thirty two. Where do you think the quarterback play specifically, forget the franchise how it's run. How drafted? Playoff, success in fairs, how do you think Bengals quarterbacks rank in the Super Bowl era in terms of performance. Get your answer locked in. Final answer from ESPN. Number. Eight. How about that? Number eight in the Super Bowl era best quarterback Ken Anderson. They go on to write about him. Worst quarterback Achilles Smith. Mentions, it has a best worst a remember. Guys is remember Ryan Fitzpatrick. His second stock was in Cincinnati was four seven and one is a starter. Get A. Did you know stat for each team? They right? Did you know going by these rankings? The bengals have had the best quarterback play among teams without a super bowl title. They had continuity deposition there one. One of two teams to have four different quarterbacks throw for at least one hundred and fifty career touchdowns along with the five time champion cowboys now here's what I find interesting. What I looked at the list first of all I thought WHOA. They've got an eight I. Give them that much credit that I started. Looking at the listen I, said well wait a minute. I'm not so sure they shouldn't be higher. Tell me what you think about this number one on their list. Best quarterback play by franchise over the last fifty four years the Patriots Number One Now? I, get Brady no disputing his greatness. Patriots also had drew bledsoe Steve. Grogan in that time, green. Bay is number two. That's Farve. and. That's a guy named Aaron. Rodgers and that's a guy named burt star. Going all the way back to the first super bowl the cowboys are third. Think of the cowboys, Roger Staubach. Danny White. Tony Romo. Number four on the list the colts. peyton manning. Andrew Luck. A Bert Jones. Boy Don't make me go back. Further Mike Pagel Jeff George Culture Four. The forty niners are five. Montana young Jimmy Garoppolo Jim Druckenmiller. druckenmiller! Or even going back before that would be. wasn't didn't. Do! We. Are they really the forty Montana young have to carry a lot of I mean, wouldn't you? Would you put? Wouldn't you put Montana in young and that group of forty-nine quarterback ahead of the colts at number four? I'm not sure you wouldn't put them ahead of the cowboys at number three. Tell you who I'd put the Bengals head of. They've got Seattle at six. Seattle's had Russell Wilson Dave Craig Jim Zoran Matt Hasselbeck. Who Else Am I thinking? I, mean going back to the seventy S I'm covering Craig Zoran. And Russia. Will I mean the Bengals if you go Kenny Anderson? BOOMER esiason Carson Palmer Andy Dalton Jeff Blake. That group's been better than Craig's born Hasselbeck. Wilson guys like that, haven't they? The Saints Are Seven. I'd put the bengals ahead of the saints. The saints have obviously drew brees, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, Jim, Everett, and Aaron. Brooks and Bobby bare was okay. Peyton Manning Archie Manning. Didn't I mean played on horrifically bad teams Kenny Stabler was okay late in his career with the New Orleans Saints. I'd moved the bengals ahead of the saints moving ahead of Seattle. I think I'd move them to six. The giants are at nine. That's the likes of Eli and Phil Simms and Kerry Collins and Joe Passarge ICK. If. You're wondering the steelers down eleven. Are, the chargers are at ten. That's. Philip Rivers Dan fouts drew brees for a short time. Stan Humphries guys like that steelers already eleven. If you're wondering at the bottom of this list browser at thirty, the buccaneers or at thirty one, the bears are at thirty two bears have had the worst quarterback play in the NFL and the Super Bowl era of the last fifty four years, but let me do this. I'm late for a break. I've got every line open. After the baseball conversation may be a reaction to this list. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight hundred pounds, seven, hundred on at and T. Patriots one Green Bay to Dallas three colts, four forty niners five, seattle, six new, Orleans seven bengals eight. I Beg your initial thought is UC Chris Ed when I ask on twitter. He said Wrangham Twenty-fifth. No, they they write them eight, but I think the case could. Do do a little bit of homework. Look up what I'm not. It's not a demand it just like if you don't look up a, can you really make the case? The saints in Seattle or ranked higher quarterback play for franchise history than the Bengals. And what the NFL told teams they could do starting today. That is we continue to be a little trial balloon for some bengals in the NFL conversation as we continue five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred, odd at and T.. It's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by several Leeann seven hundred WWL W. Eight o'clock news time coming in seven minutes seven minutes. It's out carriers sports dog presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet on Lance McAlister everyone unfinished nine tonight trend, a little football conversation in this segment ESPN's insider said what it's called now the the bonus section of you if you subscribe ESPN plus. They had a breakdown of the Super Bowl era going back to sixty six of quarterback play in the NFL, and with great interest I looked to see where they put the bengals franchise because she said nationally that it's a graveyard of quarterbacks. You don't go there. Your quarterback career dies when you go to. Cincinnati Poor Joe Borough you've you've heard all that? From Colin Coward all the way across, and then Lo and behold the ESPN rankings come out, and they say. The bengals, quarterback plays a franchise is ranked number eight all-time. Which is higher than I did not give him that much credit for for looking at it that way, but if you look at the grouping of during the Super Bowl era of Ken Anderson, due to boomer through Carson Palmer and or Jeff Flake Carson Palmer Andy Dalton and look at the Super Bowl to super bowl trips to MVP's I don't have to tell you what they've done. But in comparison to the rest of the league just pulled up the Seattle seahawks. Seattle six. They've got the bengals eight and Seattle six hero. The quarterbacks four Seattle's franchise over the course of time. I season was seventy six. Are Right. Zoran for a a decent chunk, six seven years Dave, Craig decent junk. Don't forget the rick. Maier era John Kitten of for a couple of years. Warren. Moon for two years Hasselbeck for what six or seven years and Russell, Wilson for the last what six or seven years I mean that's that's a decent group. But Kenny boomer Andy Curson Blake. I put the bengals grouping above the Seattle Seahawks quarterbacks. Let me give you one more. Let me give you. and be more precise going through. New Orleans over the years, I did a lot of those off the top of my head by. Let me pull up pro football reference and give you year-by-year Super Bowl era of the New Orleans Saints are eight quarterbacks. You're talking. Let's go. The saints arrived in sixty seven so right at the window. And you've got a bunch of bill. Kilmer, bunch of couple your guys, and then Archie Manning, who struggled big time because the team was horrible in Kenny Stabler for a couple of years into bobby, a bear for three or four or five years Jim Everett for a of years billy. Joe tolliver Heath Shuler Aaron Brooks Jeff. Flake was there for one year. Aaron Brooks drew brees for the last. What ten or eleven years I? Don't see it adding up to be above the bengals. Six I'm not sure what move the forty niners, and I got a lot of questions on twitter. What about Johnny United's for the Colts? Well? Johnny in the Super Bowl era from sixty seven johnny united played from sixty seven to seventy, two with the colts, and he threw twenty four interceptions in touchdowns that was in his heyday that was the back end of his time in in with the colts franchise so i. If you look at the the the Combo effort of Montana you although I guess the argument is the depth, isn't there for what the forty niners from a quarterback standpoint beyond Montana and young I think I'd sought the Bengals in six all right? Here's your NFL news of the day. The NFL is told. That, they can put covering. They can cover the first few rows of seats closest to the players closest to the field, and then of course closest to the players. One for player safety to because there won't be fans allowed that they won't allow that close to the field, but they can cover those seats with tarps and sell advertising. On those tarps reading a piece from Yahoo Sports today, and it says right now. This is a statement from what are the officials who set right now? It's pretty obvious that it's going to go one or two ways, either the NFL says no fans anywhere, or it's case by case based on local and state guidelines in the sense as it's going to be local and. State Guidelines Determined Stadium by stadium. How many fans you're allowed to have in the stadium and there's piece by Yahoo Sports then ask the questions assuming fans are going to be allowed in the stands at some capacity, twenty percent forty percent fifty percent maybe increase throughout the year questions posed to all fans have to socially distance six feet apart if fans live together and arrive in. In a group can those fans sit together without social distancing if clusters of fans are allowed to the clusters have to be six feet apart or do they need more distance. Does everyone have to wear a mask into the stadium? How will concourses escalators and staircases operate while keeping fans socially distance I was talking with Tom Achieve Tom Gamble about this the idea of If you're going to have fans, how in one I think? It was the athletic this week. said one idea being considered is for NFL, Games. You'll be allowed to bring. Food into the stadium because they don't want you getting up out of your seat walking to and standing in concession lines. which I I could see by the way you're allowed to bring food into Paul, Brown Stadium and great American Ballpark, but I could see the idea of hey. Bring in your your food and drinks soft sided cooler. I'm a big subset cooler guy. We don't want you getting up and go, but what about those who need to get up and go to the restrooms? and. This was part of the conversation ahead. Are you going to then x off? Like every other urinal? You can use the first year in the third year and all, but nobody stands in front of the second urinal. You laugh, but that was part of the conversation I've had with with Tom over the last couple of days, and you know what he does with event, planning and organizing stuff like that. It's all the scenarios you start to run through your head and say yeah. What would they do with that? Even down to help for many are in a row say. A row has thirty seats, thirty or forty seats and say. Say you're socially distanced where there's ten or fifteen people in a row may ten or twelve zero, and if you don't want to go to concessions, but you obviously can't make them hold it. You gotTA. Let me go to the restrooms then. Are you walking across people through the aisle or does everybody get out of the aisle and clear out for you to walk through? What do you do from that standpoint? That is two hours in the books. I've got a new topic and we add to the mix. I said last night at the end of the show. I've got the best outgoing I. Love what I do and I get a lot of people who say I love to have your job. I WanNa tie that into a topic, because I, read a piece from the athletic that I've been holding onto a rumor the ESPN show dream job. Do you remember it was kind of like? American idol like star Search Combo dreamed. I want to set that up as a topic in the eight o'clock hour and see what we can do with it. Do we check news carrier? Presented by Kelsey Chevrolet at seven hundred wliw. The. Following takes place between eight PM, and on piano. Let's keep rolling eight hundred eight seven hundred wwl W. This darn health carriers for talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC dot. COM and kill Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July I I mentioned at the end of the show. Last night we had A. A blast in the eight o'clock hour with the Cross field memories from fifty years ago last night, the anniversary of the final game, and I mentioned the end of show, and I tweeted this as I walked out, I said it'd be tough to convince me. I don't have the best job gone always said I get paid to talk about the teams I grew up. In this town and I will. Usually. Seems like once a week at least I'll get. Somebody drops me email. I would want either one I would love to have your job or two. I'm interested in getting into radio. What can you tell me about the business? And I thought about this. I have saved a piece from the athletic from like a month ago. I read a lot and I save a lot and I try to find a spot that they work and. Always laugh because I wound up doing what I do because I wasn't. Able to convince my high school baseball coach to keep me on the team. I was cut from high school team at Colonel High School I was joke because I couldn't commit to could play left handed shortstop. But Dave Platt was the baseball coach Carmel High School at the time, and I will never forget him saying to me when he cut me, he said if you aren't gonNA play. Have you thought about broadcasting? and My high school had a student run. Radio Station still does W. H. J. E. at the time, it was the only twenty four hour. High School station in the country, students were on the air from six am to six PM. And then there was an automated system that ran overnight, but during the doing that and I joined the radio staff and I did Kerma. High Schools play by play Baseball Games and football games at basketball games that I was a disc jockey. Newscast and I did everything I. Laugh every time I think of that he could have you talking about changing career path. He could have kept me on the team. maybe used me I. Had I am very little. Speed he could've used me as a as a pinch runner. A defensive replacement I could I could play the piano I was versatile. I could play the outfield. I could play the infield left handed so I. wouldn't we're going to be a third baseman or shortstop? But I always think he could have kept me. I would have been on the end of the bench gotten some scraps at bats, playing time and. Or and I just think of it in terms of how it changed the path of what I did because what it changed. The pack to is what I've been doing since eighteen eighty two when he told me that. I have been broadcasting since nineteen eighty two when he cut me from the baseball team and I joined the radio station. And it is. It's what I wanted to do. I. From listening to two Bob Trumpy on sportstalk Godfather to listen in Marty and Joe I wanted to do radio and listening to trumpy I always said I wanted to last I wanted Pete to last long enough to do play by play of either broadcasting his games or doing the pre-game show with him and I wanted to do sports talk radio. I've told the story before when I was in high school, I wrote out. The prediction for what all of I three guys who ran around with Brent Bauer Bradberry and Gary Ham Bradberry and Gary Hamlin. I wrote out high school. What all of us would be doing like thirty years later? And I gave them copies of it and mine was I would be doing sportstalk in incident. And I've been fortunate to be doing that. Here in since since I've come back to town in in ninety seven, but the original point of all this the piece I read from the athletic was writing about dream job. ESPN ran a show back in two thousand and four for eight weeks on Sunday nights. And it was a reality show a contest, and the winner got a job for a year as a sportscenter anchor. Dream Jets Cadillac a cabinet remember star search, so you've heard of American idol kind of like star search meets American idol with a sports slant to it. The host of the show was Stuart Scott. Tony Kornheiser was on the panel, and they had contestants who aspired to be on TV and be a sports guide sportscenter they had them do different different task. It was stand ups in packages and in sports all the different things and they would be judged. Stuart. Stuart Scott was the judge. Tony Kornheiser was kind of like the the Simon cowl of the panel Lavar. ARRINGTON, remember the NFL linebacker at Penn, state LAVAR ARRINGTON was on the panel Al Jaffee. WHO's ESPN's head of talent? Talent scout was on the panel in each week. They voted somebody out, and it was down to the last. You know who won. The final winner was a guy named Mike Hall. He was a college college senior at the University of Missouri. And he won the GIG. He was an anchor on ESPN I. Think they're offshoot ESPN TWO ESPN news. The deuce I, all of them at that time, they kind of shuffled and Maranh. If I remember correctly Michael is now an anchor on Turner Sports for various sports coverage and a radio host on Sirius Xm. One of the contestants one finalist was Casey Stern. Casey Stern has a a radio show on MLB network radio. Listen to him every afternoon on my drive into the station. He does TV coverage for TBS coverage of the NCAA tournament of the NBA Playoffs and the NFL playoffs. In fact, eight of the twelve contestants from that first season, maybe the first eight of the twelve finalists were in are still working in sports or entertainment. I've come a long way to get to this. Point I've taken too long. My apologies, but my question would be. Assuming you were like me and not good enough to wind up playing professionally. What would be your dream job related to sports? Other than play. Is there something else that you would consider a dream job in the sports world because I am I'm living the dream doing this and having done this since eighty to eighteen thirty thirty eight years for thirty eight years. I've been doing exactly what I wanted to do. And it's radio and TV and it's been related to sports. What would it be for you? Everybody wants to play. Very small percentage can actually play, but is there something else related to sports a field in sports? that. You would have liked to have done or like to do. I've always said if I wasn't doing this I'll give you a couple of antelope, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred on at and T. I would love to be a general manager of a baseball team. I'd love to work in a front office I I just I. I run our fantasy league I ran a franchise in the what if sports simulations were you run teams on every level I am just so into the nuts and bolts of running a franchise's general manager from your rookie ball all the way up to the major leagues in Inbetween, and just all of that, not just the numbers, but the the scouting and the drafting and the developing just so right up my alley. If I wasn't doing this I'd want to work in baseball and a front office. I if I wasn't doing that, I'd want to be a scout. I know the scouting game has changed dramatically, and there's a of people who were scouts who services are used anymore, because how the industry has changed, and it's more about it's less about what your I tells you and it's more about what the numbers tell you, but I'd still love to be a scout. I love to be the guy who jumps in a car, and just the assignment is to travel the country from one high school from one town to the next, stopping at the High School Games in the College Games and filing scouting reports about players. I would love that. And I've also always said if I wasn't doing this I would probably be, and those would be much tougher task to accomplish and I'm not saying this would be a a layup, but it would be easier in the pecking order I would love to be involved in media relations, a media relations director for a college, a pro team, a minor league team, and that is somebody who is the liaison between the the players and the media and and coordinating interviews and preparing game notes, and and all of that. That pregame postgame in Game I. Just I I what I love. I love numbers and I love doing notes compiling stuff I would love to work in media. Relations be being a college level, or or even a minor league team. Where are you prepared? The game notes for that game. You're coordinating. The coaches. Interview on various stations are You know coach so and so once he at three o'clock this afternoon show in Des Moines Iowa. Do you WanNa? Do that. You're going to do player interviews. To the TV stations coming out to practice, or which players do you want all right you over here and you over I. I love stuff like that. But that's me. I've also always said when I retire I would like to. Re- retire and off into the sunset of small town where I do the play by play for a minor league. Baseball team I i. don't care what level it is. I just like to be the voice of a it can be lower. It could be rookie ball could be half season. I want to retire to a small town and be the voice of a minor league baseball team. That's probably one of my biggest regrets that I got away from play by play because I play by play in. I did play by play in college. I did play by play in Chicago I did too Paul Basketball Games. I did baseball football basketball, and all all of those stops along the way, and then I just I got away from it. And now we're talking twenty years later. But I always had a passion for about a play that was from listening to Marty and Joe Growing up. What would it be for you? When we come back, maybe grabber a collartoo on that. Playing I think ultimately for most would be the dream. To be the guy who puts on the uniform. Short of that. Is there something else in the sports field? That would have been or would be for you. Couple of calls on that as we continue on this date in reds, history and a whole. How am I going to get everything else on this show tonight? WE'LL TRY. We'll hustle. Aren't carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Eight, twenty four seven hundred wwl wjr carriers sports dog presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Talking about the piece from the athletic about the ESPN show from sixteen years ago, a dream job, it was a competition kind of like star search American idol the. One, the GIG as an anchor on sportscenter for a year, and he's gone on to do other things in the business I was talking about it from the standpoint of if you couldn't play. Pick your sport. What other aspect of what other job in the sports world would be dream job for? You Kevin on twitter says great topic I thought about this a lot. Actually I love to be a sports photographer. It would be amazing to be on the field capturing some of the sports greatest moments right in on the action, even able to hear the sounds of the game. A Kirk takes this level. Sports illustrated swimsuit photographer. Steve on twitter chain. Guys at the NFL game have a great gig. Stand on the sidelines and watch the game I would add this and I don't I wouldn't be good at it. I've just fascinated by the because I don't. I don't play golf so there. There's by, but I always found caddying to be fascinating I. heard it interview. Couple of weeks ago when I when I walk her run every morning I always listened to a sports, talk radio, show or podcast. And I was listening to my friend David Caplan of Chicago and he had the ESPN Gulf analyst there writer and the guy who does the TV packages name is Michael Collins, and I did not know. Michael Collins have been a caddy on tour for years. Listening on my walk that day to him, tell stories of what it's like interacting with players in trying to build up their confidence in how how the dynamic of trying to tell them you don't want that club and yet making sure the final thing he says to them, is you know, knock it in or leaves them with that vote? Even though the caddy ultimately doesn't get the final say, and if he doesn't really believe that's the one his final words have to be, let's get it. Let's do it to give that his golfer confidence and I just. Just, I, it's the most fascinating conversation I've ever heard about caddying in the dynamic in the relationship, you have to build with your Golfer and the understanding you have to have with that Golfer from shot to shot. Hold a whole around the golf course. I, I love the interview and I. Just I love to be able to do that. If I knew enough about I was good enough that Gulf to be able to do it big. Dave and I were talking during the break. day would be I WANNA be chair umpire for for tennis. I made me think of Kramer being a ball boy on Seinfeld. Because I I guess he says you know what I what I said Ballboy Wimbledon, and he said no, and then I thought of Kramer and at the US Open. Being a ballboy Let's go back to the phones. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one and pound, seven, hundred odd at and T.. Let's go here mark. You're on seven hundred WWL, W. Hey, my experience is not unlike yours. Except the different sport I I am the son of a jockey, and I grew up listening to check Anderson who made that legendary call a secretary? Belmont. And and I would love to be able to call array slight chicken. Holy cow you. You know what I have so much respect for those who do it. I don't know how I watched the horse race over the weekend I. Don't I've never understood how any buddy who does that keeps everything straight in is able to see it think and articulated so flawlessly. You are correct. It's. A scale I wish I have. It. It's always blown me away. That's a good way. I'm putting calling a horse race on the list mark. I'm glad you called tonight. Back planting, thank you. Yeah. I'm watching the race on Saturday and. Without fans in the stands of still Kinda Weird, but I've always been I. think how I mean I. Watch it and I can't keep straight in this horses passing this or is going up on the left. He's right. The secretary call you. Go back and let you talk about a call. They'll give each year. chills go back and listen to the call the secretary about what by thirty one lanes, holy cow new Richmond. We go next Tim. You're seven hundred WWL W. Lance. I'm well. Thanks for calling. And my dream job would be to do color, commentary and football or basketball. I, and and unlike you I practice law so I wouldn't want to do the front office jobs. That'd be too much like I already do. But with colored comment. Commentary I've played division three football, and and and and I I've done some color on on some local high school level, and and and and I can see things that are going to happen and so it's just very interesting to me and but I it'd be color. Not play by play because I'm. I'm not as I'm not that quick. Five Chime in and tell people what's going to happen. No question all right. I liked that. Hey, thanks for listening. Thanks for calling tonight. Okay, all right. Let's continue IRA the. Maybe there's a little bit to grab a little bit more. Chad's got one Isaac out one. We'll grab those when we come back Doug on twitter, says a football official at a high school game on Friday night. Man The fall little chill in the air, the leaves of fallen the band here the student section during the cheers they have the the team name spelled out on the chest of the students have taken their shirts on. They're. Gone crazy and you get to be the official during all of the Friday Night Lights, and you're the one on the field, a lot of pressure and a lot of pressure I think of chick. Ludwig. Chicks and official for for what baseball and softball and volleyball and chick. All of that stuff some more of your calls. We'll do on this date in reds history as well before we're done. Thanks for being a part of the show tonight. Arnaud Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Seven hundred W W is ready for you. 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Think it goes for one hundred hundred and ten dollars, but one God shammgod had the one of the the best crossover moves killer crossover, move. Probably better than Allen Iverson and better than Tim Hardaway I, mean killer crab leg break your ankles crossover move, but God's Sham God has a new basketball shoe out. I lost track avoiding. I'm not even sure. I knew he was with the twenty three years later now. He's with the Dallas Mavericks Age Age of Forty Four. The legacy Shammgod was released. It dropped as they say last week it's black and white and red and kind of pays tribute to his high school colors. He was a He was a Harlem Legend He played at Lasalle Academy in the East village and May. May only spent I think he spent one year in the NBA was drafted by the Washington Wizards and he left school early, drafted by the wizards, never did a whole lot in the NBA play just one year, and then went to play in China for a while, eventually went back to school got his degree from Providence, but he's got his own shoe and guide Sham God. What are the great sports names of all time? In a in a paragraph with What like peerless price and Milton, Bradley and world. Be Free Razor shines. Majestic map, remember the remember the basketball player majestic, whose brother played it Virginia. His brother was named scientific map and he played. I want to say at Florida am. There was ben gay the running back. There was I am hip? who was a running back at Nebraska? Where's Dj hide when you need them I think I period m period I am. Hip was a Nebraska running back in the seventies, and there was an x ray hip if I remember correct, how are these names coming back to me? Earlier, because in thinking of that the book, the author road I was thinking of McBride for whatever reason Bake McBride was? A weird name, there were major applewhite. Major applewhite would be one of those cool sports names, although the coolest linebacker, one of the coolest linebacker names of all time would be Michael Stone Breaker. The former Notre Dame linebacker I back to the where where did I start with Oh God Sham God has a new basketball shoe that is out at the age of forty four. He's got his first two, and and he was fun to watch it when he was at Providence, so let's go to the phones and Cell Phone Chad. You're on seven hundred. WWL, W. Hall House here. Where my grandfather he retired from back well, he took a part time job. I can't remember now than I always thought it would be cold. You know to have a shot. You know to be like a horse trying. To force their hand shop to. Imagine like the Friday with you. will say hey. You'RE GONNA. Take Care of this horse and I think you know that would always be something kinda neat to do to see the tried. One and you know the the drive you would have you see when the big races talking about the China's. You. They finally got a chance to raise them as raking if they don't win, I just say Palkot. All get cool job to have. That's a good one because they're so much to developing relationship with the Horse, knowing the nuances, and in what works in training the Horse, and what doesn't work in of reading the Horse, that'd be fascinating. Yeah, because like I said you know here. You got obviously a multi million dollar saying you know invested money. Fortunately, just basic gives them. The Union says here. This is your horry. Him The. You would have it if you were able to finally get there. The the party would have I just think would be. Something needs to deal. god-like at Chad. Have a great night, buddy, thank you, thank you. I'm I'm having all these names now? Run through my head Peekaboo Street. World be free. STUBBY CLAPP. Was An infielder in the cardinals organization a Coco Chris. As an Indians outfielder. Oh! What did I see the story about him earlier today? Remember what the story was the cowboy. Hoc Clinton Dix. There you go. Where did all that start got? Shame got right. Back to the phones. I and I know for Dick. Trickle there you go I'll say Dick trickle before I got to like seven tweets forget Dick trickle cooler odds sports names. There you go umbrella, village, and Icepick you're on seven hundred WWL W. Going on land. You are thanks for calling. What about Darrell Strawberry Darryl strawberry a there. You go so reading. Call was about your. Dream job. so I was a high school athlete like many people I played baseball basketball, but I had some injuries torn icl I had shoulder labor them there and I got those repaired, and I went to Rehab, and I thought why not work on this, and if I'm not gonNA make it big. Why not help the athletes recover from their injuries? Yeah so I took that and started going into physical therapy, and I actually just graduated from program. So that's all congrats I mean I is I. Think of the Scenarios Man the the sense of pride and Karen Accomplishment of of helping somebody. Get back to doing something they wanna do something special athletically. That'd be cool at. That much along what I was thinking, but anyway thanks for the call, thank you. Thanks for checking him I think of that for the guys who come back from major injuries, and to be that person who who develops that sense of wind to push and when to back off and they're you know they're. They're I. Can get more out of you. I need more out of you right now. Maybe the pacing, and just the ability to then see them get back to a point where they accomplished, they were doing before even more so I've got more names flat. I should have done this topic Blue Moon Odom and Vita blue to Oakland, as there was a relief pitcher. I WANNA say for the twins booth matter. And there was a baseball player. Razor shines. Razor shines era. Now here we go. But you're on seven hundred WWL W. Lay it on me. About a cocoa. Chris Coco Crisp. Yes, K. go wrong with that. My dream. Job I love taking pictures. And I. I thought about you know being photographer. For Baseball or football and I just got really get I've for quick when you're. When Tall Stacks was here? I went out on the bridge. there by the reds ballpark. And I took a really cool picture tall stack. And give it away Christmas present. He won't be yeah. What What was really cool In the spring next spring I believe it was my sister calls me. New Phone Book. And I said no, she said well. You need to say it was almost a duplicate of my way or have right. Yeah, it was really yeah. It was coincidence and it was almost like the Standing Zach say spot I was I like I like it, but sports illustrated swimsuit. Travel to a nice places and then. Direct, each of whom age movie change your move your hair, just a little bit. Move your arm right there. You know. Sit up a little bit. Let me let me help. Go to. Night. Thanks for the call, see I'm I'm. I'm taking the the real classy approach. Raise your elbow up here and he goes right to take this off and take that off often. What is going on here? I? Think Pacemaker fired. This Zach says Kirk Herbstreit job says always said he has the perfect job signed me up for Game Day every Saturday morning, and then to get to call one of the biggest games that weekend in college football. Yeah, how about that Gig you get to be involved with? The crowd crowded some college town. That's gone nuts, and you're doing all the college football stuff. And then he jumped on a plane and a lot of cases a lot of cases. He's doing a game. That's not. That that Game Day site, so he's hopping on the plane. Fly into the the next place and doing a game that night for for ABC head down the stretch See what we can do to put the wraps on all this Just thought of another one in honor of God, Shammgod wasn't there. Saint John's God's gift a Chula. There was a basketball player at Saint. John's named God's gift. A Chew I would put on that list. All Jim Kelch with a good one Jim Kelch calling on the hotline. How about that with a little merck? Lemon yellow? I had Mark Lemon Jello is baseball card? He pitched for I want to say the mariners and the Astros, and that would be early to mid eighty S. I bet if I go home. I could find some Merck Lemon jello baseball cards. Mark Jello is going on the list I like that I. don't even know why. How did I. Not make this a topic. I had I, had it right there given to me on a platter with God Sham God's new basketball shoot that's coming out and I completely whiffed on it as a topic eight forty eight sportstalk seven hundred wwl. Down, the stretch nine o'clock news time watch this why this is called a redirect. This will be a pivot and a redirect. In three. To. Want. No. Big Caves taken about being a tennis on fire. Let's go back in time on this date in history. If you ready now go back to nineteen, thirty eight one FRY state collects eight hits in a doubleheader. The reds against the phillies get three hits in the first game five in the second game I I wonder I wonder what the record is for most hits in a doubleheader. Top of my soon to be more than eight, but how about that? Eight? This date, nineteen, sixty nine. George Kover go seven. Wayne granger goes to that combined to hit and shut out the padres at Riverfront Stadium Four to nothing a state nineteen seventy-two. The reds moved into first place in the national. League west with a five four win over the Astros at Riverfront Joe. Morgan homered in the seventh to tie the Game Dennis. Maki doubled in the tenth to win the game. Both of course former Astros. Nineteen Eighty rain night drives in five including a grand slam in the first inning, the reds beat up on the braves fifteen to three at Riverfront stadium. On this date nineteen eighty-four Eddie Milner what he did on yesterday's date, Nineteen eighty-four, he led off the game with a home run two consecutive days. He leads off games with home runs. Reds beat the giants to two one at candlestick. He had done at the day before against the padres. At Riverfront, this date nineteen, eighty-seven, remember, Bill Gullickson. Gullickson ties eight or sets eight modern franchise record, giving up five home runs to the giants, a seven six loss at candlestick, nineteen, eighty-nine, nine on this date, off-field Hamilton County Judge Robert Nagle. On a Sunday session rules. Bart Giamatti prejudged Pete Rose and grants. A fourteen day restraining order blocking the hearing. The commissioner had set for the next day. It would only ultimately delayed the inevitable with one Peter Edward Rose this date, nine, hundred, ninety nine Michael Tucker homers in the fourteenth reds beat the giants, lot of reds, giants games happened on this date in history. They beat them two to one. The game went fourteen lasted four hours and fifteen minutes. The reds with the wind stood fifty five and forty one at this point, two thousand and ten reds beat the Indians ten to three great American ballpark Aaron. Harangue does. The pitching stubs. homers drives in four Scott Rolen homered. The reds moved into first place in the central on this date ten years ago and last, but not least two thousand twelve matt. Lay Toes. Game Four hitter. He beats the brewers at great American three to one Scott. Rowland went. Oh, for four. He struck out all four times all of it happening on this date. In, red sister all right. Enough of that, and now let's get enough of this. Wrap things up in. It's going to Warsaw Iran your seven hundred wwl W. Yeah, y'all. We're talking about names. Remember as a kid, the rich trading might ahead it wrong who they trade four, but again a Kalmyk, but he's given me with cabin. Privilege Julius Caesar Paloma McLeish was. Are you serious was really? Serious that was his given name was Oklahoma that I'm accepting? That is the truth and that is fantastic. I did not know that way. You you you just I remembered as a kid when the ranch traded form, and it was a bad trade. He had some success before, but he ain't he wouldn't. He wasn't that good. I like it. I'm going to I'm going to do some more research on that. I've learned something tonight, Ron? You're the man thank you. Trish all right I've got it written down. You're the man. Thank you and have a nice night way. What was his nickname? His nickname was bus. All the look. Does it was? Like his full I give a name was I'm assuming because. Okay wait a minute. Big Davis confirming this. What what are you looking on? Right now to confirm this? Google okay, do me another favor. Look on baseball reference and see if it's listed there as well I have truly learned something. Tonight all right. I gotTA GET OUTTA here. Tomorrow night on the Oh, by the way I made a bet. I made the bet with my Guy David Kaplan. I forgot to mention this. He's a cubs fan. I'm a reds fan. He's in Chicago were best friends used to work together Chicago. Every year we'd bet food on the reds and cubs baseball reference. Has It that way as well? I'll be damned. I did I did not know that we'd bet food every year on which team will win more game some years we have to spot him wins, or he has to spot me winds. We have made the. The beneficial the Vegas odds have the cubs reds right at the same number of projected wins, so he is betting Chicago food. I'm betting reds food are Cincinnati food? Reds win more games than the cubs. So there goes officially on. He usually sends me a Lou. Malnati's when I win and If he wins, it's Montgomery greater skyline stuff like that. I gotta get out of here. Gamble and Finn Have Jeff Pecoraro Mike. Dirt's George Vogel and more it all begins after the news. It's Arnold carriers sports talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W.

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Local Hour: The People v The Weather

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Local Hour: The People v The Weather

"The thing that I wished to know the thing that I demand to know because there was a bit of a film on our show yesterday it seemed a little despondent and a little depressed the thing that I want to know as I talked to billy and Tony. Roy and Mike here. STUGOTZ will be here in a second is who has the guts I wanNA know if anyone has the guts because I don't believe that you guys have the guts anymore the media is acting as if it's mad at the Miami Heat, the media is predicting that the series is over that it feels over and they wanted a series they wanna see Lebron James Challenge they wanna see moments they do not want to see the Miami Heat Rollover over they don't WanNa see a series that isn't competitive. They want the climax of the season to come with Crescendo. Do you have the guts? I? Don't believe that you guys have the God. I am utterly gutless not shot if by Gore drug play no shot. Probably given what we saw in game one con- considering the run that they went on with those guys out there I wouldn't really like our chances of healthy but now no cuts gutless helped me with this here. Have they declared going out because I actually was talking to heat people late into the night yesterday and what they told me was it took you donnas has lem five days to come back from this back when he was twenty five. So once they said that I'm thinking Gorringe in his thirties. It's all pain threshold toward completely and it's actually good. Make it any worse playing? It's all about how Much it hurts and what he can withstand but even withstanding pain threshold it took you don is handsome Guy Tyler hero called the Oji when he was on with us the other day everyone knows or assumes his pain throat threshold is off the charts and it has them with twenty five and it took him five days to come back. So I would assume that Gordon at the bare minimum wouldn't be back til game four the latest on him is that he's fighting people in the organization to come out and play. He plays was crushed. Yeah, Oh of course he works his entire career for for this moment. In the professional ranks, it's a bummer. He plays a different game than you donnas them to probably needing that feet for his more agile game such as veteran. Then you don has them, but the fact that he toured completely because that's where the pain is. The extreme pain is when it hasn't been completely and it's tugging in is trying to get to the point of tearing completely. So it's a pain threshold thing we're assuming he can't play. You're not assuming you're going to see him tonight. Listened to people doubtful and historically, they don't really list people as doubtful I. Don't know if this is like trying to boost like the culture and the individual heroism bravery of those players but they never list people doubtful it's either outer questionable. So a curious listing. So Mike Ryan is gutless. That's it. It's done according to Mike Ryan like you can't. You can't come back from this. If you are saying after game one that you're gutless and you are heat homer guy, you noticed this in the coverage correcting media seems angry at the Miami we actually giordano systematically tears argument apart because it's lazy and that's what was going on the ESPN content machine people just angry that I think they're still angry that they didn't get Clippers Lakers. But if you reseed say we we we take Williams's said and Jalen rose was upset that this is happening if you recede, you get the same exact match up. The Miami Heat go through Boston in the first round Milwaukee in the second round, and in the third round, they play Toronto a team that they actually matched up better them with Boston? Celtics. The Lakers have to go through pretty much the same exact path to. So you end up with the same exact final so that argument does not hold any water. Who are these people that are actually angry because I see people disappointed that you know the series is not going to be a good one if they lose two of their best players but who's actually angry you guys keep saying people are angry that the finals who are these people? Mike Greenberg Jalen Rose Jay Williams of people that the content creators. Well no I think creating content, but they're doing it lazily so much is to not okay. Let's argue reecey because that will definitely be a different finals in one. That's better than this one because this is a huge bummer. Everyone is very publicly disappointed with how game one went and has very little hope that this has got to be more serious series more tightly contested, but it's lazy because if you actually do the receding, you realize that you land on the same exact finals. Receding or not isn't the biggest issue as the injuries right? Like if if the Miami he came in fully stocked everybody healthy, this is a a series that has legit chance so. That is the way that people were picking it. I was surprised by the number of people who were picking the heat like this was not any kind of foregone conclusion. People seem to assume people seem to actually put stock in the teams that Miami beat you see them dismantle Milwaukee the best team in the league in five games and shoot away. We're now everyone is saying everyone is saying why is Rondo making shots in the bubble because it's just easier for professional basketball players to shoot in that bubble because of sight lines and no fans and everything else. But Billy, do you have the guts or the only have the guts for the Marlins do not even have the guts for the Marlins because you darvish is scary to you're scared of Beaupre Darvish getting and those cheating ask cubs in their fake. Weather Machine. What are you talking about? What was that yesterday? By the way? A joke is what that was yesterday inclement weather. We have to cancel the game on our before the game even started. Did you see the pictures people were tweeting out of the biggest people were sending from Wrigley? Field, yesterday I, think an hour and a half in to what would have been the game it eventually started sprinkling. Something is up and I'm on it. I'm investigating what's going on here and guess what cubs I already have a plan that I'm going to send to Donny Baseball and I'm not GonNa, tell you what it is, but it involves changing the starting pitcher because you guys clearly cheated so that you could study up on six still and you're not going to get six today if it was up to me. Billy Administer Task Force with you have a lane friend of mine who is actually somebody that works inside the cubs organization is a big fan of the show. He's not involved in this he he may not be he may be we don't know he may have left the water hose on at night. So the flood field gets flooded we don't know but he sent me a picture of when I was about to take what should have been. Pitched and it was completely blue skies. There was no whether no rain I'm going to send everybody the pictures that in a ziplock bag that is exhibiting. All right. So you're calling them the did you call them the cheating ask cubs is that what you? I'd over member what I said well, I've moved on I. Don't live in the past Dan. This is a quick moving investigation. You're not really aspiring objectivity there like you said, you were. Exhibited eight we haven't in Ziplock bag you understand calling them the cheating ask cups exactly make you a neutral anymore. I don't need to be neutral. Okay. I'm the prosecutor here. Right is that the prosecutors the one that goes after the the criminals yeah. You're the DA and what is the prosecutor? It specifically accusing the cubs of because Tony just said there was no weather yesterday and I don't think that that's possible that there was no weather I think weather was present So what what are you a investigating? How much weather there was Dan? Whether there was weather is what you're whether there was weather. Okay and you're going to what are you saying that you're going to send to don mattingly you're going to Oh, he's already got in my game plan for today's game rest assured in his hands on his desk in Manila folder. And your plan is just to switch the starting pitcher. That's that your plan to. Let them know. Gland. And that's actually brilliant saving six though the guy with the best stuff on the staff for a possible game three and if not worse case scenario starts game one of the next series. Well so this could be spun into spun into a win because I mean six. Oh, going up against you darvish who's been really good. This season most people would say they fancy Yu Darvish, his chances in that match up. So that's probably the smarter play. Right? You know who else fancied Kyle Hendrickson. What happened a hand? Mombasa's that's what happened to him. It was Bomba's I also liked did you like billy I can imagine you okay. I don't know what you guys are planning here with this twitch watch anything I'm not actually that confidence just if you're aware right and this is this is a good position for me because if the Marlins win today, this was good because starling Martin got an extra day of rest which he needs on his fractured Pinky, right but if they lose. The fairy in sn `ISMs was up. Okay. Nefarious Nisans were furious. Which I think is Dr Seuss? Word. It doesn't seem like a word that is English. But what I was asking you because I think it would be fun to watch these games with you and because you have eight twitch planned in the future broadcasts, other people can watch the Marlins game with you The thing that I wanted to ask you was about game one when they went to their sideline reporter during the broadcast and he was talking in the seventh inning before bombasle he was talking about well with Hendrix you know you've got to start thinking about the defensive replacement players because a one nothing lead. Is Pretty insurmountable with Hendrix I. I was thinking of you and the idea that you were yelling at your television were you were you scared and agreeing with the sideline guy? A one nothing lead is the time to put in defensive replacements right as Hendrix gives up a couple of bomb. I was kind of laughing at the idea of putting in defensive replacements. When the people they put on the screen were cameron may been and Billy Hamilton because I said, who've I hope they really think that one run is enough because I don't think that's going to be a source of offense for them. Got An update on the task force So my buddy inside are mole inside the cubs. Sent me a picture. There was weather. Dan. There was whether there was a couple clouds but he did say I will say did start hailing at about five thirty. Probably would have been bad for. Thirty Liman beneficial by then yeah. No. That would give five thirty their time at six thirty this time the game started at four and a half hours that game would have been exhibit be put it in a ziplock. Do we have any of the Hale we may not, but I'll try and find. That's the thing about Istan. The perfect crime you've heard about that rate. What is the perfect ice with a perfect crime? The perfect way to kill someone is with an icicle. Because the weapon melts I've read. Or heard. I had never heard that before where you. See. I don't think that's exhibits hailing someone with an icicle perfect way to kill them. Yeah. Because think about it everyone looks for the murder weapon can look for the murder weapon. If it's melted billy, you're doing the twitch the perfect crime. Hail to ruin a baseball game. You guys just good. News game three happens. It's going to be the only baseball game on Saturday you guys are rooting for game three I know what's up exhibit the I think you're taking this whole like attorney thing a little too literally because Dan has asked you like four direct questions about the twitch and these. Ongoing investigation sometimes when investigations are going on, you have outside distractions that are trying to keep you off point and you know wait a minute wherever you yesterday Dan Le Batard. Billy is deepened character Mike. The thing that you're not understanding is he's Daniel Day Lewis he is deepened this attorney character who is who is prosecuting the cubs for being cheating at who who's on your suspect board because right now, Len Kasper just because of his association with the two franchises needs to be up there with a red piece of yarn. Well, right now, no one has been ruled innocent. There are lots of things going on, but nothing gets by Daniel Day. Game Lewis. Studies have shown that the average human attention span is eight seconds that means you're more easily distracted than you might think and when you're driving, you'll be glad the Volvo xc sixty suv is thinking about safety even when you're not, it's equipped with advanced safety features that can help prevent accidents before they happen like the city safety system uses cameras and radar to detect pedestrians and cyclists and can automatically apply the brakes. 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Now you add the next rain into it and I think Miami could potentially survive the loss of dragging for a couple of games even potentially the entire series if you are at your most hopeful. But Bamut a bio that that that's too much to overcome. Part of the strategy here is just bombs away from Three Gorge Dragages a big part of that and Bam finding open shooters working inside out is a big part of that I. I think it's too much to overcome. If you lose both these players Dan the reason that it's not for a game for series it is. But for a game, it's not is for the same reason that the bucks were able to beat the heat without Janas when they were down three hours a game in basketball Doesn't mean much you punch of Lakers shooting poorly, you can steal a game but Yes. That's just generally hopeless in terms of winning the series and I just feel it in in what it is that's happening around the sport where the question being asked after game one in a way that isn't just feeding the content machine because I am gooden tired of somebody going down to Oh in a series and then somebody saying that the series is over after one game you don't often hear that you don't often hear the even if the bucks had lost that way. In. Game One. The final nobody would be saying the bucks are done it would be ugly and unpleasant but people would be like that happens sometimes in a single game but I think with this particular series where you have the Lakers blow the heat out and he'd had three injuries one of them to their leading scorer the other one to probably their best defensive player I mean that seems problematic for the I can't think of a worse case scenario than the one that's hit them like I can't. I can't think of how you can make that worse than their top three players to all stars and the guy who has been you know as good as anybody during on the team during the entire playoff run leading score for first round second round, third round, and the one guy that's out there rolled his ankle pretty bad and you're asking him to up his game to a certain level and really match Lebron James and Jimmy. Butler is not that kind of player. He's a guy that we're debating whether or not. He's in the top fifteen. He's going to need to be a top five player on the planet maybe he can get you a game and by the time to get some guys a little bit healthier if you can make this a five game series, that's the longest break the break between game four and game five, maybe some guys can get healthier. It's just really hard just being objective here the line it opened at six, and then the news of doubt four came out and I imagine seven and a half them. There's there's a back door opportunity and it's this is going to be really hard man I'm basically rooting I would love to take aim to so I can work myself hopeful read injury reports I wanna see the culture game I wanNA see. You know we could Iran we could appoint it on this series. We have the built in excuse already, we'll get him next time. That's not really what Jimmy Butler is about. Jimmy Butler is out here saying we're GONNA win still even understanding the injury so I want to see that I wanNA, puff my chest out and be proud of my team one more time. This was something that I wanted to discuss a couple of days ago, and I'm just curious what your guys thoughts are on this because Jimmy Butler I keep reading about Jimmy Butler's reputation as a bad team mate. Or, a cancer or whatever difficult teammate and I don't really get it Stugatz I don't understand I know that he was pushing. You know Karl Anthony Towns and Andrew. Wiggins in a way that it seems like they probably needed to be pushed. They were young players coming into the league. Jimmy Butler is not going to have a whole lot of tolerance for a millennial mentality He wasn't the problem in Chicago nobody thought he was the problem in that locker room even as that locker room ended up having problems and I don't recall people. Saying he's a bad teammate in Philadelphia like he just left. PHILADELPHIA, I recall people saying that he was a welcome addition Philadelphia and that embiid and Simmons needed him agreed I. Didn't I didn't listen his teams have performed that while. So maybe that's the problem and you heard some stories about him in Wade really separating themselves from the team in Chicago and I think that's where the band teammates stuff. Really. A bunch of millennials. Young. Player. Again to your point though there was some soaking division between the established players in the head coach. He did that in Philadelphia with Brett Brown and we see they're still division between embiid and Ben Simmons and embiid doesn't shy away from being very pro. Jimmy Butler. It seems as though there was a division between line in the sand you're either Jimmy Butler guy and beat fell on that side or your this more I hate using this word in this context but more millennial sensibility Ben Simmons type where. By the way that lines nine and a half now Lakers are minus nine and a half over the heat. So so why doesn't wave get bad teammate if it was him Jimmy Butler conspiring against the rest of a very young loser away did bold yet. There's just mobile notable examples it started in Chicago with Rondo Wade Jimmy. Butler saying this is crap this had coached. This is a mess in your young arm arm worth it. He was aligned with. Tinto. In Minnesota, the problem there was. The players, he's exonerated not only by the fact that he's in the finals but you have the benefit of hindsight with those franchises, those locker rooms, those players, and you know that there are a problem regardless look what happens when Jimmy Butler leaves these franchises and they're left to their own devices. Dad You the Jimmy Butler can give you one of those games. No, you don't know like what like they need that gave you one of those games against Milwaukee he gave a bowl of water. Now, with Bam out of bio sort of being the trigger on everything they were doing offensively. No, I don't think you can get a forty point Jimmy Butler game at nowhere when he's going to be their only offensive weapon, he's going to be their only offensive creator. It's not just you're losing an all star going drug. It's you're getting the two guys through which the offense runs when they're out there. So now what going to happen it's going to be. Lebron guarding Jimmy Butler what going to be Jimmy Butler guarding abroad to so he spends a lot of energy and the defensive is both teams both teams are switching seems, Oh, Miami's implemented this off switch, which hopefully doesn't carry over to game too. But the person that really initiates the offense is Jimmy Butler and it's a lot better of an offense when he's finding guys like out a bio and Gordon tragic now he's finding guys like Kellyanne Lineker and Kendrick Nunn. Tyler hero probably gets here is going to be able fight but I don't know if you guys saw game one I don't know how great of a thing that is right now because after thirty seven point game. If, he's feeling himself he he's made he's decisive I'll give him that but he's making bad decisions out there tyler hero. Well, that's a super small sample right I mean he had a rough time in the last game against the Celtics and he had a rough time in the first half against Lakers decision making no I'm latching onto the decision making decision making with him while decisive he makes up his mind about where he's going sometimes that isn't the Bat I get it but we're two games removed from him thirty seven points in one turnover. The decision making was fine to games. I think that when you look at what happened in the first Game Duncan Robinson and these are all being introduced to the height of playoff basketball because you're going up against Lebron James and all time player and Anthony Davis pretty much consensus top five player in the league gets up and you're going after that with Jimmy Butler. That's pretty clearly not enough if Bam's not gonNA play at all, all I'm saying is he is the superstar a granted he's not Lebron James He has a career high of fifty three points for one night. You need Jimmy Butler to play like a superstar. He's not that kind of superstar Atlanta Kenny. Be for a night I guess what is talking about? What are you talking about? What can he be for a night? Like are you talking about take thirty shots and and score forty points? I'm saying he needs to be north of forty point need him to be the guy that after he got the knee injury Minnesota still strolled into a practice and dominated call Anthony towns and Andrew Wiggins with a bunch of DMP coach decision guys while only scoring one bucket in the practice I don't know. If he can do that honestly if you're rooting for something improbable before more likely thing is Anthony Davis getting injured than Jimmy Butler scoring fifty I would think. But who knows Jimmy Butler is not buying into the fact that this series is done. He that's just not how he's cut. We all know that he sounds ridiculous now interviews to the nation I wouldn't put it past him because he's like literally the only option Bama and Gordon Dragon Kings. Put it past them though Mike because that's not the kind of player that he is especially on a team where he's going to be the primary option where the Lakers who have an exceptional defense, not not decent. It's an exceptional defend and they've got a legitimate rim-protector explaining how you guys have. Jimmy. Butler getting into that stratosphere when the shots are difficult to come by and they're going to be leaning toward him, I personally. Don't I don't have this asking if he can. Yes I'm we're just asking the question we're looking for. This is where we are in the series with the the reality of the injury situation you're just seeing hoping and praying that Jimmy Butler can become a top five. And not the top fifteen guy it's odd that we're just asking a question as if you have the answer I mean. It's. Pretty Company does have the answer right? which is no. How about culture next man now how about that? Kendrick don the next The next man up is Kelly linic well. Is it a Kendrick none none onions? The difference between Kendrick Nunn and Gordon drug itch. Is Not that much that you can't for Kendrick Nunn to give you the kind of game that you would want from a guy who was second in rookie of the year voting. But the reason that I questioned what you guys are doing with Jimmy Butler is because it's not even like you can bank on a consistent jumper like maybe Jimmy Butler can play a super aggressive game and get you twelve free throws or something maybe Jimmy Butler, decides to go neck first into the paint and try to create stuff for their three point shooters but I just don't know how you get. The Monster Scoring game from a guy who's jumper you don't trust I mean he he can do it though it like he scored forty by by shooting from the field, he can do it occasionally but your point is probably the best one. Now in terms of production Kendrick none proved in the preseason this guy that's capable of going for forty even especially, if he has more opportunities now counting on that, but the Gulf in talent may not be that serious but certainly, the Gulf and trust is massive when he talked about Gordon dragging and Kendrick Nunn no one no keep fan trust Kendrick Nunn. And especially because his shooting has been bad except for the last game throughout the postseason. But let me ask you guys this question at the risk of sounding totally absurd because I like Jimmy Butler as a player I do not mean to dismiss disparage him when I say I, don't think of him as a superstar. Excellent basketball player. But if you ask me WHO's more likely to get thirty points tonight because they get hot from the perimeter I've got a couple of guys on the team who aren't him that I would think of in terms of tyler hero and none just in terms of shooting they go or Doug Duncan Robinson good nine for ten years from three hundred. I'm not expecting four for six. If Jimmy Butler does erupt and give you the forty point game, it's because he's getting to the line fourteen. And and conversely he's getting people in foul trouble if he does that and that affects the actual talent that's out there on the court four, Los. Angeles. So if he's going to line fourteen times, that's two fouls maybe on Anthony Davis in maybe you can get lucky but you're going to need to get lucky this game if those two guys are off Miami. Audience listening to this and saying these guys are not only hopeless they all sound dopes like thinking that. This is still any kind of series like they all sound like they're. Not Over Oh. Okay. He does sound like the dope because I want to be a not on dimly clear and kind of fear it's over those guys can't play. It's not over by the what Jimmy Butler game one against Milwaukee had a forty point game in a thirty point game against box I mean he. Might Mike said the three times while we were doing this segment. Should been listening. When deciding how and when to safely return to the workplace you need to be informed. That's why IBM Watson helped you prioritize employee safety with Watson works a set of a infused capabilities. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT com. Slash Watson works to learn more at Shell. We know from the time you get up to the time you wrap up there's a lot of meet ups. EAT UPS and hurry up. 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An anonymous source we can't reveal the source because then the will not be anonymous anymore will lose the source exhibit us. Quote. Its way colder today than yesterday, we postponed the game to make the Miami team play in forty degrees weather. I made that sounds like an admission of guilt now at a tag exhibit Gee if you'll see right here. In a plastic plastic bag, that's a cell phone with Scott a latex glove on because we can't contaminate the evidence. Of course that's a weather map of some sort. What is is a tweet that Father Manny sent me yesterday and it's a weather map. As you could see clearly over Chicago it's in a bag it's my cell phone because I don't have a printer here, but I wanted to make sure that this was still little one any fingerprints on that phone evidence? Exactly. So, now my phone is in a bag. So hopefully, I won't need it later today, but it's going to be part of this investigation and it says quote I mean, those two clouds over Lake Michigan stuck up on water and canned goods is from father manny along with weather maps of God. A man of God is calling them the cheating as cubs is that what he's suggesting that there centers I'm not here to say that God is on one side or the other but. We'll leave that up to the people to decide well explained to me where it is we are if you're just joining us, billions decided to prosecute the cheating as cubs. Living for the truth Dan that's I'm sorry I didn't say it that way he has become Daniel Day day, Louis There has been a task force he alleges has been assembled. He's got a source in the cubs organization that we are simply referring to as Tony's boy. What is happening? What is the update on the investigation? What? What can you give us in the way of information? The Task Force has not only been assembled it has been mobilized. How so Mobile, now are moving things things are in. Boots on the ground, you're boots on the ground in Chicago. On the ground we have boots in the air. We have boots on twitter. We have boots in the sky checking the clouds. No stone will be left unturned to find out what exactly went on yesterday. What is happening with you and Father Manny explained to me this relationship. What do you mean I? Just don't understand the relationship like, why is he sending you a weatherman. Because sometimes when people see nefarious `SMS as we said earlier, they like to you know it's almost like we have a tip line right on twitter there's a tip line and when people get tips, they send them in someone else sent in a video of a guy screen screaming into a traffic cone yesterday outside of Wrigley Field and he was just making unofficial announcements about the weather and the man who is screaming into the traffic cone and was sent to US I believe. Is, twitter handle is at super underscored Dave. Now, it's not the Super Dave unfortunately. Passed away but this at super underscored Dave was screaming into a weather cone outside of Wrigley Field. Where was a weather airy sunny and he announced its to sunny to play today. I. H. Video? Really help me out here. I've got multiple follow up questions here, and one of them is simply, why couldn't you get out without laughing that you'd been sent video of a fans screaming into a traffic cone. Is this something my throat you know the seasonal allergies Dan happens to the best of us. In is in the air. Any other, any other people send you stuff that would make it seem like the cheating cubs were cheap. Do we have a tip line that you would like to direct people to? Well, you could just tag any of us on twitter if you'd like to do it that way or you could do it. You can do it while it's not anonymous if you sent an email because we'll have your email address. But you know what? Email to unused giveaways a g mail dot Com let's see if I were. That maybe we can access the evidence that way. Okay. You want to create a tip line or unused give. Shemale it's a whole. Interest cell phone number create a way too many email accounts if we're going to be honest you for various reasons to secure sports, Bang Dot com stuff like that. There's too many meals out there that phone number attached to it at this point are mole inside the cubs is doing work and trying to get us at least the biggest things that are happening from last forty eight hours before the first pitch today by the way. So you're mole inside the cubs is your mole is a double agent is someone who's like secretly rooting for the Mangam? Tony Dunk firm he or she is they a are inside the cubs organization and they are also not willing to come out and. Say that they're doubly it or not. They do work for the Chicago cubs. So the cubs do sign their paychecks but. The Miami person through and through. Okay Miami, person through and through. Our show who takes money from the cubs but gives information to the task force and the prosecute my Kinda Person Anthony Rizzo from Parkland. Wow but but is he Tony's boy? That's the question. Tony's play basketball together Dan remember he played basketball athletes and while billy I do a appreciate your shroud of secrecy and the fact that you want to your sources as anonymous I do believe it's fair to call this person a he when we've been referring to this person as Tony's boy I think at that point, we don't have to go with she unless you're trying to get people off your sent. I mean. We. Don't need to get into the whole gender thing. Damn it's twenty twenty I'm not sure if we're going to see or any of that today, right? Just sit Tony's boyer I mean that's Roy. How have you been experiencing this local hour? You have sat by and you have observed and you have listened and you have laughed then you have smiled and you're shaking your head sadly a, do you have the guts? Roy, because I don't feel like you have the guts. Still I'm still holding tied to my heat and seven prediction but we lose his game tonight is over. Okay. Very good there it is ladies and gentlemen the guts got for now and normally when a team loses game one and you have your team in a certain number of games well, this is what he in six looks like this is what heating seven looks like I don't think any of US had heaton seven looking lose two of their best three players and their best player turning an ankle. Get believe it feels like you guys are bailing on the it does sound like that really does so happy with this season. This is great. This has been an unbelievable here. Now go get a title man. You'll be happy with making it to the finals literally limping through the finals right now and I'm. I'm just looking for a moral victory. This is how Stugotz does it. He's just so used to that success that comes with being jets fan that he can just tell people just go do it even if all of your players are dead, I want you to beat the Lakers with just Solomon Hill out there just do it Solomon be a superstar I mean he culture next man up you're in the NBA finals have in Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley and the team Jimmy Butler to figure it out your four wins away from Title I think Pat Riley and air expulsion made literally have to play tonight. Guys I don't mean interrupts but Ryan flair just tweeted at me and he said quote, it's an evidence exhibit age I'm not one for conspiracies, but it really makes no sense especially since there are no fans to account for only thing I could think of is cubs slash MLB, not wanting to burn darvish if there were an in game delay hope the Marlins destroy them now exhibit H. Another, exhibit exhibit I Chicago Loosen Restrictions Dunbar capacity Tober I my mole saying we postponed the game hoping they would give us a night game tonight and they could pack the rooftops with Rowdy Fans led by Sarah Spain. Look at that. Now, for those of you who cannot see us, which is all of you because we're not televised right now biller interest because this is in lives of. Our so Thing a blue glove good news I screen Cap Tim Holding up the evidence with his latex gloves so that image will be all right and the plastic bag. Yes. This is what I want to explain to the audience. There's a plastic bag and it appears that the telephone zip locked in it pretty uselessly because all he's doing is showing us what's on the telephone. A Latex love on. So he doesn't get any fingerprints on anything. And he continues to hold up the phone and when this task force that has been mobilized ends up. giving. You the information or the findings of its investigation then what billy? Then the next proper steps will be taken. Do we know what those steps are. Just, the proper steps one thing at a time guy. All right have you ever watched a press conference with the police chief you don't show all your cards. Have you decided what you're going to do after you've used all the exhibits in the alphabet what do you do after exhibit since you're on exhibit I in the Task Force is still collecting data Aa Greek alphabet. Exhibit. Alpha. What's after. I don't know figure it out. We'll go full gear more at Lebatardshow. Do you know what's after Beta?

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Effectively Wild Episode 1426: Fun or Foul

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1426: Fun or Foul

"No no no miles the same way no woman another low an welcome to episode fourteen twenty six of effectively wild baseball podcasts from van drafts presented presented by our patriot supporters. I am dan. Lindberg of the bringer is similar of e._s._p._n. Close in doing any male show but a bit of banter. I i just just <hes> this fun. Fact repeated in the facebook group wanted to get your thoughts on it so this is about the reds michael renton who became the first i player since babe ruth to win a game as the pitcher play the field and hit a homer all in the same game three qualifiers which is usually the death knell for fun facts but it's kind of fun right because i guess not judging by your reaction how now i and babe ruth so papers is good and it's been a long time since babe ruth and also these are the three things that you can do in a baseball game. Oh no you're good pitch. You could field you can hit. You did all those things well. I know no not fun. It's all it is is restating the fun fact the michael lorenzen set out the season to do which is be a two way player. That's it that's all night is all you've done is say mike lorenzen then plays plays both pitcher and a position in the same game whether you whether he gets the win is inconsequential to the fundus of that fact the fact of his existence whether he gets hit is also well. I mean some. He's gotta get some hints or else. There's a benefit to but he's gonna. He's gonna write nothing awesome. No no no no. I mean there's some benefit to being a useful in baseball player that you can do this but presumably he does. All you know the the three things well enough to make make this a project that the reds were willing to to do for a season and if he were to say for instance have five hits in one game and a win in the the next game than that would mean that he does them well enough to to serve that role he doesn't have to do them. Both also a hit is so much lower than is that what it was is a hit. A home run is much lower than the standard that he maintains as a hitter and a win is much lower than the standard that he maintains his pitcher he is. He's a you like there are position players who have wins this year and there are pitchers web home runs this year. The fact is the michael lorenzen. Renzo is neither of those things he is a real pitcher and a real hit or at the same time so if for instance he was the first person to ever say strikeout fifteen fifteen and also hit three home runs in a game then it would not it would be a whole different thing it'd be like wow are we may be talking about the greatest athletic accomplishment than any baseball player who's ever done and it would be worth pointing out otherwise this is all baked in we we already know that he can hit good enough to get a home run and we already know he can pitch good enough well enough. I know that well enough pitch well enough to to get a win so nothing changed here. This is just a a meaningless in collaboration of two events happening that are routine for him okay but only routine for him and for no s so. We already knew this will you you do this. How many people in the world even people who file baseball know that michael renton does this who knows michael rented so is there some value you too boiling down what makes it cool that he can do these things into a single sentence and having him demonstrate that he can do them in one game i it's kind of a compact way of explaining what it is that he does and why it's unusual played the field he pitched and he hit and and he did at least two of those things very well in one game and no one else does that even shohei ohtani doesn't do that for goodness sake so i think that article okay so ben all right so if say i dunno name a baseball player marcus semi marcus damian homered and and then the game went nineteen innings and had the pitch and he came into the nineteen th inning and he gave up three runs but then the other team had to use say caleb joseph pitch the bottom of the nineteenth as scored four runs than marcus semi-in would have would have done this and would those be this would would you would you say wow mike i mike lorenzen and marcus semi-in are the same this stat really conveys the accomplishment well i know more about michael renton and so it is more impressive to me because i know i have some built in knowledge that this is the thing that he does on a somewhat regular basis that he he attempts to do these things things but the fact that there hasn't been a markelle semi-in games that no one has been for a century that something the if marcus semi-in did it though then it would be dumb fun fact it'd be like one of those pablo sandoval stolen base homered and pitched just in the same game fun facts where you wouldn't really take it seriously. It would just be a thing that does not capture his skill as a two way player. It's just weird thing thing. That happened in a weird baseball game so you imported. We're we're baseball game event into genuine miracle michael lorenzen and i mean he is a i don't know he's a two way player who is both in an above average pitcher in and above average hitter. That's a that's a another yeah okay. I guess we can just say that but to have demonstrated in a single game is different from doing get in multiple games i think or at least it's more fun to see it happen all at once in not a nineteen and a game so to me. This game is a good encapsulation deletion of why it's fun and interesting that michael rented does these things so maybe we don't need the fact because we know that he does these things already and it is cooler because we know that michael renton is actually capable these things in it wasn't just some weird unrepeatable circumstance that placed him in position to do them. It's that he actually set out to be someone who could do those things in the red said yeah we think you can do it. We're gonna let you so in that sense. Maybe that means that. We don't don't need the fun fact because it's already cool just that he gets to do these things but i still think there's value in it. If you have to tell someone about what michael lorenzen has done this ziara in a single sentence. Here's your singles ends. You say the reds have a two way player named michael lorenzen who has a higher ups joey votto a lower e._r._a. The movies custodio end plays centerfield okay. That fun fact lies a little bit. I guess because joey votto hasn't been good this year but but <hes> often facts lie so okay you could also use yasuo puig could use puig for that. He's been bad to sh- yours in yours is yours is using a win in a single game using one game win as as a marker for pitching quality yeah okay well and you're saying i'm lying. I don't even know how he pitched. I assume he pitched well. All i know is that he got the wind and for all. I know he could pitch lousy gotten to win anyway. If we have a stat called the true wind and we like the true win. This is a win where he take the fields and hit a homer and is not regularly pitcher. I don't know maybe maybe i'm making too much of it but i think you're making too little of anyway. I didn't create the fun fact. I'm just relaying the fun fact and i enjoyed it for the ten seconds. It took me to absorb it. He gave up a run but okay l. He blew the save save so he is. He altered the win he he actually motored the win. Maybe even babe ruth didn't do that but for all i know he's the first pitcher ever to get a bloodsaves sanda win and hit a home run and play the field in a single game all right all right they agree to disagree slightly wanted to mention nelson cruz. I i think we talked about nelson cruz recently but i <hes> appreciating a new how could nelson cruz has been because i was cut making the mental comparison that what nelson cruz has done this year is almost exactly exactly what david ortiz's did in his final season and that season was incredible and we were making so much of it at the time partly because is it was ortiz had because we knew it was his final season and no one goes out the way he did and yes it was each forty season and what nelson cruz is doing is an the aged thirty nine season but on the other hand the stats are almost identical ortiz had a 163 w._c. Plus in his last season twenty sixteen cruise has a one sixty two this year and in the past three years the game has moved more and more toward young players and old players being bad add so for nelson cruz to be doing what he is doing right now is kind of incredible and i know that there's a significant percentage of the baseball watching population that has written off everything that nelson cruz has done since his steroid suspension because that's it for them. It's not out necessarily that you're dead to them but everything you do. After that is suspect we've talked before about whether someone who has been suspended for steroids rides who has tested positive is more or less likely to be taking them after that suspension. I think a lot of people just think well nelson cruz. Did this thing he's he's the kind of person who did this thing. We don't know whether he beat the tests for a while and then got caught or whether he got caught immediately or what but everything that he does is suspect but for me. I don't really find that to be the case. It doesn't really affect my enjoyment and appreciation for what nelson cruz has continued to do and it's amazing that he has had this second half of his career. That's when we talked about it when we were answering the question last week about second half of hall of fame careers and how he is having more than one and he is showing no signs of declining at all in fact. He seems to be getting better. <hes> <hes> yeah the nothing to add to that okay i i was i i was just talking to someone today about how i am surprised that in fact i have not read people saying <hes> boy. This guy with the incredible unprecedented late thirties power surge who has a p._d. Suspension on his resume assure whereas suspicious i was surprised because it seemed like that would be the sort of thing i would be reading about not that i would be writing about but that would be reading about and <hes> person i i was talking to said yeah yeah. It's interesting that you say that you have seen it well. I've seen it in previous seasons. I don't know whether anyone saying it right now and <hes> hopefully. I just won't hear it. If people are saying. I'm sure i v twitter searched it. I would find it because you could find anyone saying anything on twitter haven't seen like a columnist coming out in renting about it or anything but i just know from past seasons that something people think you are right that you can find anything on twitter. I was also talking to someone today about how the funniest story in the funniest story in baseball would be if it turned out that bryce harper had been lying about his age the whole time in the in fact he was he was like sixteen when he was eleven and that <hes> when he said he was eleven and that he actually graduated from high school like years late took nine years early and and that all of this is just like he's old and i you know i think it would be just like wildly funny and someone and said that they have actually seen that conspiracy theory on twitter so never mind yeah. It's really we're talking mechanize last week about some of the good and bad aspects of twitter and one of the things that i didn't mention a mentioned it's humbling and kind of a nice way that you constantly come across incredibly famous people with enormous followings on twitter who you've never heard of and yes. You can't figure out what they do or who they are. Even if you try to and it's is just the nice reminder that <hes> you are inconsequential insignificant in the eyes of most people compared to many other people who are not really all that famous in the grant scheme of things another thing is that i think twitter reinforces just how funny people are just like the average twitter person not the average guests but the average person i follow very funny and also if you search any joke on twitter it's been joked about before and so that is a major that even though there are a lot of funny people on twitter. We're not originals in everything we think of has been thought of in tweeted previously <hes> yeah <hes> yep i'm seeing the bryce harper aged conspiracy wow this is actually referring to somebody else making this obviously the chris conspiracy theory and the person is named dank aaron the very twitter bio. I should say profile name yeah yeah yeah i have had that experience many times and the in fact the very day that you guys release that podcast i saw somebody who had one point six million followers and i didn't know who this person was and then i clicked on the bio and i still could not tell you the person was and then i googled and i still could not tell who the person was. I don't know who the person is more impressive. It's such a power move. When someone has a huge lower count in their bio doesn't even say anything about them yeah and so you know people found them just organically like they were actually sought them out her or something or didn't care who they work. Their tweets were so good. They just had to follow them anyway anyway. They're everywhere so yeah all right. You got anything better about. I don't okay. Can i tell you a few things about knuckles. Yeah yeah okay. I know you're less of a knuckleball enthusiasts than than i and you're not so enchanted i know i actually i have a knuckleball michael ball article on my tickle file and i'm scared to read yours because i don't think they're related. I think that mine is still safe but i'm a little bit nervous to read what you wrote. I did see that you wrote something good. I don't have to write. I don't have to write whenever you throat but there's one anyway go ahead well. I wrote a little bit about the future of the knuckleball because the the knuckleball is like baseball and miniature in that people are always saying that it's dying and they're saying that it's dying for some of the same reasons baseball's dell's audience is old people who baseball tend to be old and people who throw knuckle balls tend to be old and so there's this constant question of will the next generation and like baseball and will the next generation learned to throw knuckleball and so people are constantly declaring that both of these things are extinct or about to be a dave went back and found lots of examples of articles from the eighties and nineties into thousands of people claiming that the knuckleball was on its last legs because people are claiming that again and not without reason there are fewer knuckle balls being thrown in the majors right now than in any year on record and maybe year ever at at least since the knuckleball certainly be certainly certainly yeah. It's not even close. It's definitely the fewest ever yeah they've been about. Two hundred knuckle balls thrown this season isn't and they've all except for maybe a few pitches classified as knuckle balls position player pitchers through they've been thrown by stephen rights and ryan fear bend and neither of them is really a a knuckleball standard bearer who you can be confident in pitching for many years so there's no wakefield. There's no dickey. There's no hoffer candiotti your negro or anyone right now who you can envision being the torch carrier for the next decade or so and so that caused this the recent round of knuckles dead doomsaying articles and maybe they're right this time. Maybe they've been wrong the other times but if you keep saying it you'll be right eventually intially but i kinda doubt it. I think there will continue to be a place for the knuckleball and the thing that i focused on here is how technology could help preserve the pitch this kind of weird quirky pitch that in some ways defies analytics and quantification in ways that other pitches don't in that at like you can't even track. It's spin like you know it's working. When reps ota were track. Man doesn't even say what it spin is because those systems aren't capable all of tracking it if they do register it then you're probably doing something wrong but there are ways that pitchers today can use some technology to improve if they're knuckleball so the mets minor leaguer named mickey jannis who's been in aa for most of the season he recently put himself on an edger traffic high speed camera and he saw something he was doing wrong with his knuckleball and he'd made a subtle tweak because he saw that he was imparting some spin that he he didn't want to impart and he was able to change the way he was holding and releasing the pitch and suddenly he went on this incredible run where never in his minor league career to this point up until august had he ever struck out ten hitters in a game and then he did it in three of four games and he's just been on a great run his last five starts or so of the aa season which he attributed mostly to this adjustment that he made with the camera and it can be a really valuable thing for huckabee in particular because so many organizations don't have a knuckleball mentor. There's no coach who's really qualified to coach it or catcher. Who's caught it before. In so jenness who's been around the block for awhile. He's said that he's essentially been on his own said see really seriously started throwing the pitch inch and he's just kind of been self todd and he has to course correct as he goes and so the camera that has revealed things that he couldn't see otherwise has been really valuable for him because he can't tell the difference really between a good knuckleball and a bad knuckleball like he can judge it based on whether it's hit hard essentially he can kind of tell. Maybe if the catcher has trouble catching it or something but you know it. It's either rotating a tiny amount towards rotating a little bit more but not enough enough to actually be able to see it and so there's less feedback than you get with a typical pitch so that's the upshot of this that there are a few pitchers who who are still throwing it in the minors in the minors the pitches about as common as it's been for the past few years of silencer. There's not a significant downturn there and all the one i talked to have used these high speed cameras and credited it for seven improvement or another. The other thing that i talked about in the piece is that robot ups this could be the big breakthrough for knuckleballer potentially because knuckle bowers really get screwed over by human empires more so than other pitchers and i talked to a bunch of knuckle bombers and they all said sort of the same thing that they felt like they get jobs because they have these pitches that are all over the place but then they settle into the strike zone and because catchers don't receive them cleanly and because they don't look like they're going to be strikes most of the way they don't get called strikes and the data backs that up very much the knuckleball is the off speed pitch that is called most incorrectly and it's also the pitch of any the type that is least often called a strike when it is taken in the strike zone and so- robot could be a big boost to knuckle bars both because of that they'd get more strikes if the strike zone definition stays the same and also because catchers won't really have to catch the pitch cleanly anymore though soft soft block it if there are runners on base but otherwise they can really do the pub euchre thing and just wait until it stops rolling to pick it up if they feel like it or they it can just kinda get in front of it but not have to anticipate where it's going to end up which the whole point of the knuckleball is that you can't do that so i like the idea that technology could help bring back this pitch that kind of defies analysis in some ways but in other ways there are things that you you can do with it even though it's easier with many other pitch types so i'm cautiously optimistic that the knuckleball will be with us for a while so the strike zone as is his three dimensions and when stat cast records the location of a pitch though it's not i mean they have to pick out place place right where they say that. The pitch crossed the plate zarate yeah. I don't know what my question is exactly. If the if there was a robo on would it be three dimensions. Would you only have to catch the plate at some point along the plate when it crosses. The plane of the plate is not it might just imagining actioning that. I think that that is i think that is how it's supposed to be that if you like if as long as you catch some part of the plate at some point along the plate the strike but i don't know how i don't know how the robot would work. I guess it would not be well. As long as it's three dimensions as lines it has like like sort of a range of places where it is allowed to be in the strike zone as long as like within the strike zone at some point in the foot plus that it has to travel to get over the plate and then it would be called a strike presumably zet your presumption your you can calibrate it. I don't know how precisely zeisler you can calibrate it in that dimension but presumably the system knows where the plate is right and so it would know when it crosses that plane okay got all right so we'd have to ask someone who was about the specifics of these things but yeah i am kind of encouraged by all all of that do you when you are doing some article that includes research in you're talking to players about something. Do you like it more when you can overturn turn the conventional wisdom or when you can confirm that conventional wisdom because i've done both of enjoyed both but which gives you a greater thrill. I'm trying. I think of an example of either one like what is a for instance here. I don't know i mean i want it. I like it when they confirm the thing that you want. I want them to confirm you wrote. The article like you decided generally speaking. You don't set off going. I'm just gonna write about a topic you usually we right about you know you have a thesis about a topic and you're really you. You're hoping that and usually that thesis comes from an observation asian or the collection of data or something you've heard or something that you haven't a reasonable reason to believe is true and so then you want that that to be true but i don't think that it's yeah. I don't think i have a bias toward. I think if anything i'm probably if it's okay here's my answer if it is a topic that is well trod that that that other people write about in that i am maybe just adding to the four literature on that topic. I am hopeful that it will confirm firm. I am i am not a bold courageous trailblazer. When it comes to overturn conventional wisdom i'm a little scared and and i would say so in those cases i like it when it upholds the conventional wisdom but in a novel in new newly persuasive wasted way <hes> it is a topic that i have all to myself than i like it to overturn the conventional wisdom inasmuch as there is any conventional mentioned wisdom for instance dropping the bat. There is no conventional wisdom about dropping bat except most batteries not either either really right and so so yeah so in that okay so that's my answer was so you can get a whole article out of proving that something the thing people think is not true that fills a slot for you checks off <hes> a box. I have to write article. Here's something that people are saying and people think is true and i have the evidence to show that they're actually wrong and it will be surprising and maybe it will change people's minds and that can be fun and exciting it. It happens probably less often these days than it used to when you could very regularly find people saying things that weren't true about baseball which is little title less common today but i also kind of like confirming something that players instinctively know without looking at the numbers it can be kinda satisfying spanked to say hey players had it wrong this whole time and they've been playing for a century lesson. They thought this thing that somehow wasn't right or at least that we currently think isn't right based on the information we have but it's also kind of nice to have it confirmed that people who do this for a living in are supposed to be the best in the world at it actually actually to know what they're talking about kinda like that too so when i talked to knuckle bars and they say yeah we have fewer strikes called for us part of me is thinking well of course they think that maybe slider pitchers think that maybe change pitchers think that because of course you're going to remember the pitches that go against you in the calls that go against let's do more so than the ones that go for you and everyone thinks that they're in above average driver and maybe every pitcher thinks that they have fewer calls go their way so that was one hypothesis ahead as i heard this from knuckle after knuckleballer but then when i saw that note that's actually true. That was kinda heartening. I i guess partly because it allowed me to make the case that robot ups will actually change things for knuckleballer in a meaningful way but even so i kind of like having that that conventional knuckleball wisdom confirmed yeah that seems like so that in that case your question. You were happy that the data supported with the players were telling you yes okay. I definitely like it when the data confirm what the sources tell me so regardless of what they tell me if they say something about about anything the worst thing is when you get back to your desk and you find out that what they thought was true is not true because it usually does very little good at that point the dunk on them. Usually i mean depending on what the topic is but usually now you just have a worthless interview yeah. There's it also the tracer the rap nyerere exercise where you try to mind games or events that a player says happened at most of the time it turns turns out that they didn't happen and it can be i guess kind of fun to track it down and find that no it never happens and this players miss remembering and the fallibility ability of human memory and we invent these things but it's also cut a nice when you are able to confirm it and say yeah this thing that this guy remembered from fifty years ago it happened happened on this day in this sitting against this pitcher and it was real so there's something to be said for both of those things. I just like evidence. I like proving or disproving things so i'm glad that baseball allows us to do that so well all right. Let's answer some emails. This one is not really really a question but i wanted to mention it because it's kind of fun or unfunny depending on your perspective curtis wrote in to say and this is still true. I i was looking at baseball savant today and noticed that billy hamilton's max exit velocity. The season is ninety nine point nine miles per hour. I looked back through the years that are available double since two thousand fifteen and noticed that no one with at least one hundred batted ball has not hit a ball over one hundred miles per hour. He goes on to say that. Bend your dream of a fun. Royals team has been realized. This is the chase to watch for the rest of the season except that of course billy hamilton's longer on the royal so royal still not that that fund but this is kind of not fun in that i wish that billy hamilton we're better at hitting baseballs because sit would make him more fun as a player but on on the other hand this is now something that i'm kind of paying attention to even though the baseball savant stat cast era is so short that it can only be so meaningful. It's still perfectly captures. The kind of player that billy hamilton is and it's ninety nine point nine. Yes wow yeah so. He doesn't hit the ball hard. We knew that but the point is that he never hits the ball hard not that teaches doesn't do it regularly but that he is physically capable of doing it even one time. Do you want to guess what the hardest he's ever hit. A ball is oh. I will say one. Oh four four one zero seven right yeah groundout okay as it goes he hasn't her. He headed in yeah. Yeah that was in two thousand sixteen okay. You want to guess how hard dee gordon has ever hit one one. Oh eight one. Oh wow oh one is six point nine so the same basically i one more you wanna guess how hard taranto gore ever one who okay small sample simple but i will say. I wonder if he's even <hes> i'll say ninety nine ninety nine ninety nine point three all right then. Didn't we only have my right that we only had one ball over a hundred in the pacific association who we tracked which we didn't we. We only have that. Are that may be true but that was hit f._x. Which was different from stat cast and had a lower baseline. <hes> i think about it. There is actually a report when the braves picked up hamilton that he was going to do the pre two thousand nineteen taryn score thing for them and that he would only play the field and pinch run on but he has made twenty one plate appearances for them so far still fewer chances to get that elusive triple digit exit speed all right. This one is from hoodie it. It has the subject line. Nobody's hit for bombs in one game in two thousand nineteen and the e mail says it just seems odd that nobody has done this in two thousand s. nineteen the homies season ever after looking at the eighteen who have done however they don't seem particularly clustered during times when home runs were more frequent so so maybe it is a more randomly occurring event the not anyway just curious. If i'm honest i thought somebody might hit five this year and it is sorta sorta strange. If if all i knew was everything but this if i knew about the home run rate and the number players who have hit two in a game and three in a game. I'd probably guessed that someone had hit for an game. That's without running the numbers and looking at the odds or anything. It just feels like someone should have done this by now because if you look at the number of players who've hit two in a game we're up to entering wednesday three hundred eighty four such games. The record is three hundred ninety six so we're probably going to pass that this month and the number of three homer games is up to twenty. The record is twenty you too so good shot at passing that as well and yet we have not had the four homer game which has happened twice in two seasons two thousand seventeen seventeen which of course was the previous high rate year and two thousand two which was a home rear but not as high as many of the surrounding season so nothing in particular about two thousand two that would want itself to that yeah well. We were just talking about the reverse phenomenon of how because so many fun facts or records involved the clustering of somewhat rare events. If you increase the likelihood of the event a a little bit you increase the likelihood of clustering of it more it seems like and so it does seem like the chances of four homer game in the <unk> abstract or theoretical would be like a lot higher would be much higher and it just must be that the odds of a four home run game game even in really good circumstances are just really extremely long and so when it happens that's in any other season. That's way off the odds like maybe it should happen every ten years and so when it happens in one season that's already like ten times more often than it should have have and maybe now it should happen say every three years and so the fact that it has not happened. This year is only a little bit rarer than you would expect yeah. I think that's probably right. I'm going with that so to know. That's probably what it is. It's just striking because every other record that you can break with home runs except cycle all season single player record as we've discussed has been broken and all of the clustering records have been broken and the consecutive games with two homers has been broken in consecutive games with three homers has been broken and no one's done the thing that scooter janette did so it is strange range but also probably not that strange you know of anybody has homered in four consecutive plate appearances this year in <hes>. I don't know that ah so there's i guess there's still a chance that it could happen. I mean obviously there's games to go but september is a <hes> pity home arena month right because you've got the september pitchers coming up and so might still happen. I don't know how many of the four home run games have happened in september but if i had to guess i would guess slightly more than than the norm. I'm gonna look it up. Oil you talk about something. That's all right question from max in san end francisco in episode fourteen twenty two you mentioned that under eighteen sixty five rules all catches were outs even ones in the stands but say tailby still had this rule. What would be the ramifications would fans have to try out for lower level seats. What would be the optimal spacing with the yankees outspend everyone by employing ex minor leaguers as fans what about visiting fans what would baseball look like in a world where all catches her outs slightly more more than normal have come september but only slightly. We've been asked this question. I think four times in the last six months and three times i have said that i refused refused to answer it because i just didn't have it in me to talk about the darkness of of people because it seems clear that what would happen is that a a fan would drop a ball when he needed to catch it that <hes> the other team would hit a ball to him in a big moment and it would bounce office hands and then that player would go on to hit the game winning home run in game six of the n._l. Cis and everybody would would hate him and he would have to have security guards guards take him out of the stadium and maybe even the security guards would hate him. Maybe they pummel him outside the stadium and it would just be really really violent and horrible and the first time i thought this through i just i realized what a gift it is that we as fans are not expected to do anything that is the greatest gift of being a spectator taylor is there is is that they drew boundaries that you don't have any responsibility at all for what happens on the field. I know it can be very frustrating sometimes sometimes to be watching the game and realize that you can't do anything to help it. All you can do is shout. Go team and that doesn't seem to do much and it feels like it'd be nice to have some agency agency to have some influence to have some power over this thing that you care so passionately about so emotionally about but in fact what a blessing that you don't i don't have that power not only because crowds are vicious in mean in strangers are unforgiving but also because you would just be so unforgiving of yourself you do not not want to have the burden of having missed a crucial catch in a huge moment that could have saved your team on your conscience. You just don't you don't ever wanna be responsible ons before you are not qualified. None of us is qualified to do what the baseball players are doing and it is much better that created rules that that free us absolve us of any possible influence other than the most extreme examples of reaching over into the field of play. Well you say it seems clear that offen- would be in that position of screwing up scapegoated by anything that they would just put fences around. You think they'd put nets everywhere. I don't know what would happen. Do you could imagine that they're just wouldn't be fans for at least there wouldn't be fins in certain sections of the ballpark right now because now because the home team would get to set the the layout of their park and the home team would presumably have a huge advantage because their fans assuming their fans are not total dufuses right up to own will. I don't think it'd be i mean we we do much more complicated things than only catch it. When the the gray geyser batting right like we drive cars we we can handle only catch it in the bottom and the top half of the inning. Don't you think now we would drop a lot of them. We would still we i. I'm not so so worried about it. Plus a fan catching a ball that their own team had i think that after certainly after a few decades of this but probably after a few games this as we would all know pretty well which wants to catch and i don't know of visiting fan would have the guts even to try to catch one <hes> when the home team is batting <unk> so i think in that case the home team would have a real incentive to make it easy for the fans to catch the ball yeah but i think that you know i just you think that you'd get a corn and it's hard to catch it and you'd watch it and then you feel terrible but you don't think that the home team would just have a a bunch of bringers in the park and seal off the lower sections pants saying they do that right on you'd have that's my crush now l. I mean okay. What could be right so what you're right. Because i mean there aren't that many catchable foul balls but right there art fair amount actually in today's game where there are more foul balls hit than ever so it would be three to six per game. Yeah maybe five five outs per game. You turn five average expectation precisely valuable so ten million dollars a win so you have fifty thousand thousand fifty thousand fans so you could sell. Let's say let's say you average eighty dollars per fan with tickets at cetera so that's a four million dollars per per game so you could buy out the whole stadium for four million dollars and if that gets even half a win then then you're right. I'm south interrupting. You go keep going blow my mind except that part of that calculus that that's a win is worth x. Millions of dollars is that you're presuming that if you win more games you're going to draw more fans and so if you're taking that pass ability out of play because you don't even want fans then you're not making money from attendance and from concession sales because you you have stuffed the ballpark with people who are paid to catch vol's sought. You've already thought the next step through right. Which is that you sell. Will you sell two thirds of the park so right. Two thirds of the park is basically out of foul territory foul y'all around where the foul balls and so then by actually you're you're causing yourself some money in ticket sales but by creating greater scarcity and aweso always you know well. You would always have a winning team because you would have to do this just to keep up with all the other teams who are also doing so. You're not going to build a super team. I you know the irony here is that if you're the you're the orioles and you're rebuilding and you don't care if you win then you could as part of your rebuilding. You wouldn't have to close off those seats yeah on the other hand. No one wants to go to your games and you can't sell them anyway. They're they're basically like you know just printing out fake money anyway so that's the irony but <hes> yeah i think you could probably still sell twenty five five thousand seats or something and sell them for a little bit higher price yeah and so would there be a p._r. Backlash if you rope tough though sections and said fins can no longer have the best seats because we are going to pay former players or whatever to stand there and prepare to catch the balls except except going further ride fans even want fans to be in those seats because they want to win the games so fans if if the if these were the rules then fence would want to maximize their team's chances of winning the game in so fence it would almost be like a duty for fans. It's not to attend the game sit in those seats even if they were allowed to because they should know that they are costing their team a chance to win by sitting in that seat so there'd be like a whole culture of fans shaving if if you were to sit in those seats if you were allowed to because because what kind of fan are you. Are you a good fan if you're prioritizing your viewing experience over the team's chances of winning the game so you know. I don't believe there would be the any seats. I i think that if you really wanted to remove the seats that the person could run around you're not gonna have you're not gonna literally fill every seat seat with small. You're not going to have to hire eighteen thousand very skilled ballplayers forever that would be counterproductive because they'd be in each other's way and then you you but you have to have them be able to cover ground you don't want them running up and down aisles of a fold up seats and so you would remove all the seats probably in have like you know. Fifteen people cover the whole lower section and then you'd after <unk> then then the question is would there be rules about that. I mean what could you could. You actually put your own players into into the stands. Your bench guys guys well. Let's say you couldn't what caliber ballplayer do you think you could recruit to do this job and would there be an arms race where you would have the yankees just outbidding the other teams so that the enke's would have like they'd be paying exorbitant it salaries to have like like active minor leaguers would retire to be the yankees foul ball catcher and that's all they would do eighty one games a year would you would it be like former college. Players were still pretty good because actual pros consider this demeaning or now worth their while. I think that you who would range would not be an issue a said like you're you don't need to have anybody who's remotely as good as a as a professional fielder because they don't have to worry about range. You can have enough of them that everybody only asked to cover eighteen feet you know the eighteen feet around them or so and so as long as they can catch a ball. That's hit more or less right out them them then you're good and i think that there's thousands of idle johnson who could do that especially with a little practice and it's a it's. It's something that like. I probably would not be good enough but if i were i would happily do it for free for my favorite team. I mean it was the source of pride cried right. That's the other thing it's kind of a prestigious role. It's like a you get to doing it again back to me. They can't do this. Thank goodness yeah so you wouldn't have to pay people that much probably because they're at a baseball baseball game. In how bad is that on the other hand. It's not like being at a baseball game under normal circumstances. You'd be at work. You'd be under pressure on every pitch. You basically be in the game so it. It wouldn't be much fun especially because if you messed up you'd be the the goat in the bad kind of goat hate that goat is both both the bad thing and the good thing it's kind of annoying when you say at least but yeah that that would be a high pressure job and so i don't know you'd you'd have to pay people something and and then there would be an escalation because i think there's a difference in shir handedness between like an average average athletic person and a former professional player so you you'd want like prime age recently playing players with pedigree. I think you could probably pay people enough to do that job. Would it be against the unwritten rules. Would it also be against any sort of law to send in your own ringers in undercover because it would be the value added of a slightly better foul foul ball. Catcher is is pretty minimal like they. They like like i said i think there are thousands of of qualified baseball catcher's that could basically do the job and you could get better ones than yankees could recruit slightly better ones than that might be a couple of balls a year but the value of someone who will intentionally drop a the ball is is greater yeah. That's true so if you really want to put your money for agents right if you yes if you're the yankees what you'd really want to do is flood craigslist in twenty twenty nine other in twenty hundred ballparks yeah yeah you could really get people to throw the game a main. I guess maybe it would be eh. You'd have foul ball. Catchers banned from baseball for life for throwing games in this way. It's sort of a fascinating social social experiment but very bad for baseball for baseball yeah how this worked in eighteen sixty five there were like just didn't doesn't matter right. There were like sixty people at the game. Nobody was going. Nobody was really keeping slower being paid much. If anything yeah okay well this would not transfer wealth to today's game yeah yeah no it really wouldn't if it would although i do think that i feel like you thought mr a little better and you have at least eased my my concern about mob violence all right the overstep less do take a it. It is so this one it comes from a question that mike ask and i liked it so much i wrote about. It and i think it'll be on e._s._p._n. On thursday so mike says i'm fascinated with a twenty fourteen tigers they had so much talent on paper they had justin verlander max scherzer miguel cabrera david price incomes learn annabel sanchez in their primes joe nathan victor martinez torii hunter and yoke him soria past their primes uh-huh and hanikos warez record selo robbie ray castanos and j._d. Martinez before they had their best seasons. This made me think what's the most career the war one team has had at one time and this is a really interesting question that got me thinking about like how long a team may exist. Obviously those that roster was was dedicated to winning baseball games in two thousand fourteen but in a sense all those players they were teammates. It's for life there in the record books and the stature of the collective stature of that team in a way is affected by what comes next like a swore as was not doing doing much for the two thousand fourteen tigers but when mike was listing these names and then he got to swore <unk> swears and he's really good to now and so it continues can used in a in a sort of weird way reflect glory upon the team that the thing i kept thinking about. Was that that tumbler site. He's tumbler site awesome people hanging out together. Do you know that one and so like it's like you know freddie mercury and pope john paul. You're like dang picture and in a way it it. It's cool when they're both at the height of their fame but it's also cool of. It's like george clooney as a child hanging out with like gary cooper. You're like a grammys party or something like that and you're like wow that too and alias war isn't this is like young george clooney and so i asked anne hirsch to do this one on because it's a tough one to query and so of course the the day-to-day roster changes make it impossible to say like on any given day not what the roster it is but we have the career war for each year of each team and so he sent it to me and so tell you the answer team with the most career career war is is definitely not the twenty fourteen tires twenty thirteen tigers incidentally are three hundred ninety fifth it will continue to go up swore as martinez eighteen has in custody on us ensures earn for lander and a few others are all still making war but they're they're three hundred ninety fifth which is pretty good on the number and i think they have something like five hundred career war the number one team is the nineteen twenty eight philadelphia athletics and so the twelve year athletics like there's a little bit of <hes> fluky niche to have their team came together and there's a lot of it just being a a serendipitous lap between a lot of great players from <hes> the sort of previous run of philadelphia as bolstered by a couple of signings and then also the arrival of the next of as days all same time so they had career war they had a one thousand one hundred thirty eight career war on that roster the tigers here's by comparison had six hundred thirty one so there are five hundred war ahead of the tigers and so they had this is like pretty kind of bonkers. If you think about data in one thousand nine hundred twenty eight if you looked at the war the career war leaderboards in nineteen twenty eight if if that it existed and you're looking at it the number one in two and four players in history were all on the as so they had the best second-best enforce best players who ever lived at that point i mean technically babe ruth had lived in he was gonna pass so maybe that's a misleading way of putting it but first second and fourth because they had signed ty cobb and speaker before the nineteen twenty seven and nineteen twenty eight seasons they signed eddie collins to sort of finish out his career before nineteen twenty seven season so all three of those players were there and so after speaker joined in nineteen twenty eight and she me fox debuted they had those four jimmie foxx would as if you look at the war leaderboard today s- cobb and speaker are each in the top six and collins is <hes> i i forget but he's also very he's like eleven or something like that. Jimmy fox's twenty fifth out simmons's seventy seven. He was on that team. Mickey cochrane hall of fame catcher is is two hundred fifty lefty grove sixth all-time pitcher jack quinn sixty sixth all-time pitcher they had seven other players who played at least fifteen years in the majors and they had other players besides those seven others who were longtime major leaguers named and on all star teams earned m._v._p. Votes and so they had this just absolutely incredible collection of baseball history that is not the same as being best team in baseball. They were not the best team in baseball that year. The next year i think cobb and speaker i i think we're tired and then collins retired not long after that and the as actually <hes> just kept getting better as as a team in the moment so they they would for the next three years after that they would be one of the great teams of all time like maybe one of the five greatest teams of all time so i'm. I'm just wondering ben if you had. Let's say you had a time machine that could only go into the future and you took that time machine to go somewhere in the future where a time time machine exists that can go to the past and then you use that time machine to go to the past and you could either sue nineteen twenty eight philadelphia athletics who had the greatest collection of great baseball players in history or to let's say the nineteen thirty one philadelphia athletics who won a hundred and seven games hundred fifty four game season and who were in a three year run where they won two world series and lost the third and had a three year run where they won more than one hundred games each year more than a hundred two games each year in fact in that hundred and fifty four counties so in one case they they are. Maybe the best team of all time in another case there may be the greatest in sort of hall of fame on of capital g great this team of all time which would you rather see the ladder for sure which one other twenty eight teams cobb and speaker yeah i wanna see more eras of baseball baseball history represented and be able to tell my grandkids grandparents or whoever it is in this time travel scenario that i saw more of these legendary players yeah i think so too i mean i think that that that was a really special team and there was something romantic about that idea of having just so much history on the field and in fact <hes> i wrote this article but like you could go to a single day like there were there was not a game where everybody who just named played there was a day where everybody i named except eddie collins played and so you could have gone on that day and seen and all of that like incredible seems like just maybe the greatest day of baseball you could go to in history and it was all there so that record the nineteen twenty eight philadelphia athletics that record held ever since i wrote a lot of what i wrote most of what i wrote about looking at the teams that are still quote unquote active in by this measure and that have a chance that that are kind of within range or could be within range but the second the second best team well pretty much all the other teams are the new york yankees. It's just like all games. All the way down like half basically half of the top hundred hundred or yankees seems and almost all of the top twenty five or yankee seems philadelphia as worked their way in there the let's see the two thousand yankees were the first team to ever clear thousands of the as were at eleven thirty eight as i said it took until two thousand before another team even got two thousand and that was the two thousand yankees with with roger clements and they got two thousand seventeen so this philadelphia's team is really something. This is a record that is i dunno. I is it a record. I don't know it's as i wrote. It's a record that was set by team long after it had ceased to be team so i don't know if you call it a record or you don't call it a record but it has been very durable and and maybe it will never be broken. I sort of tried to figure out whether i think that it's more likely or less likely that it would be broken now than in nineteen twenty eight and it seems logically that the answer answer is that it would be more likely because rosters bigger. You have more team. I'm more players and therefore pan of more career seasons theoretically more times and also more games but there are reasons that it would be harder. One of the reasons that it would be harder is that it's now the players get paid what they're worth. It's just a lot harder to hoard all the good players whereas in the old days there was no there was no restriction on that you you had to get the players you had to have a certain amount of talent to to acquire them all but there was no like hard cap on it in the way that like the real the realities of payroll kind of put a little bit of a hard cap on how many of the world's best players you can conceivably have it one time but i mean obviously i think the answer is that it is in some ways harder in some ways easier but it's definitely possible that a team could pass the the as in the right circumstances because the closest competitors the closest challengers in history have been fairly recent and in fact the two closest challengers are actually still still active still still adding more so it could happen. I think it probably will happen happen. What are the closest challengers. The closes so the two thousand five yankees are the closest there at eleven hundred and three so they're thirty five war uh-huh and the two thousand twelve yankees are one hundred and two war behind and and unsurprisingly the very recent years of the dodgers yankees and maybe even astros have kind of like a wide range of possible outcomes but they have large collections of superstars <unk> as well if i had to bet on team that exists that has that has so far played a bet on the twenty seventeen dodgers to to get there but probably probably i. I think that the team that does most likely has not yet played yeah. It's funny that a were the team to do this because you're just saying that it was. Maybe a little easier to keep your talent together at that time because players weren't paid what they were worth the as always had trouble paying their players even at that time they had at one of the first massive fire sales with connie mack's team going from the nineteen fourteen as to the nineteen fifty as he had to basically settle settle their vaunted hundred thousand dollar in fields because he couldn't keep that team together so kind of interesting that it was a connie mack team that that this i had actually elite interpreted this question as asking which team had the most career war looking backward only at any one time the the fact that <unk> suarez's named in it whether or not it it was meant that way. I think your way is probably more interesting but also it was. Maybe met that way to dan. Dan actually answered both ignored the i didn't even look at the other spreadsheet because it was not what i wanted to answer but in fact the two thousand five live yankees have already set that record the two thousand five yankees that dang it could've put that in the article the nineteen twenty eight as our only seventh. If you you simply go backwards the two thousand five yankees with randy johnson alex rodriguez might messina kevin brown gary sheffield bernie williams derek jeter jason giambi allied torreon rivera had eight hundred sixty four of their eventual eleven hundred war already in that year. Ah sending an update all right. This question is from darrow in brisbane australia. Some may remember darrow from not it paying any attention to baseball over the past offseason and then finding out everything that his favorite team the mets had done in that all teams had done on opening day which we followed along with at the time now darrow says. I think that m._l._b. Should commission the great baseball survey there are so many initiatives that are are trying to draw more people to the game but there seems to be a dearth of data on what people really want i for one hate nearly of the changes that are proposed they could run a campaign unlike they do with all star voting to garner responses including quaint paper surveys at games. What should the questions be and m._l._b. Probably does some some of this because i know that ran for talks from time to time about how they have survey people and fence runs and he claims strike outs so i assumed that they've actually done some sort of pollinger surveying but i was talking to someone at an o._b. About this last week actually and that person jason was pointing out that the problem with a great survey to decide what baseball should look like is that the respondents to that survey are going to be people who are already watching baseball and probably the most committed baseball watchers and if you run a survey like this one of the questions you want to answer is how how can we increase interest in the sport and how can we attract people who are not currently watching baseball and those people are not going to answer the a survey or not going to know how to answer the survey because they don't already watch baseball so you have to figure out what questions you're trying to answer. Do you want the people who are are are ready. Consuming your products to like that product even more or do you want people who don't watch baseball to start watching baseball and though those might be two very different questions with two very different answers that could conflict in some cases not an expert on this but it seems to to me that there are enough people who watch baseball at a low enough frequency that you could probably safely do <hes> focus on increasing the frequency that they consume baseball that you don't really at this point worry about the people who don't ever watch baseball. They're literally billions of people who don't ever watch baseball and it's probably not worth trying to get a handle on. Why don't the reasons that people don't watch baseball are probably millions so you just probably put those people aside her now. Focus on the people who watch say some baseball all but not that much and figure out what would make them watch a lot more baseball and probably if those people watched a lot more baseball than a lot of the people who don't watch any baseball would then start watching baseball because they'd be like what's this thing that people are doing. I keep hearing about baseball all of a sudden. Everyone's talking about baseball yeah. I'm i mean i am. I don't know my constant thing here. Is that like a lot of people watch because other people are watching and so what you have to do is let's get more people to watch and if more people watch than than more people will watch and so in a sense as long as long as you're not focusing too much on like me like the very very very hard core blue are our audience you and right because we're not only are we already pretty much as s. saturated as as we're gonna get but probably a lot of us in a weird way value like we wanted to only be hours like we're territorial about it. We are probably somewhat lead us about it. We don't have a desire to have. I mean in our heart of hearts. You probably don't have a desire to have a much more popular dealer sport. We are content to have <hes>. It'd be our thing that only we share. It's an inside joke that we all share with each other and so in a sense probably it's not just just that there's not a lot of benefit to going after us as that we are somewhat counterproductive to the aims of growing the game much larger true but i mean most people who watch baseball baseball the the overwhelming majority of people watch baseball are not like that and <hes> survey them without. I don't know the idea that like oh. You can't survey baseball fans because they're already watching. Baseball feels a little weird to me. There are millions of people who consume baseball in some form an dan in like dramatically different levels of engagement and the survey. I want to know what they want. I don't know i don't really believe that. Surveys are probably that effective i don't i have i don't know i have a hard time thinking that someone might do you ever watch like family feud answers. The one benefit of asking say our audience or or us is that we think a lot about baseball well and we could give you answers to questions that are very detailed specific like it would be almost difficult to ask very casual. Fans ends what they want. Because how would you even frame some of the questions. It's like there are certain big things that you would want to know why suppose like. I think people want a certain amount of scoring. Do they want a certain amount of action or a certain type of action they care more about save scoring than they care about the length of games because those things are often in opposition and you increase scoring you also increase gametime and so there's a trade off to be made there at times. But how do you even ask about that because you. You can't say like what you want there to be. One point one one home runs to be hit per team per game or one point four percent. Like how big do you want the basis to yeah you could you could ask me that and i would tell you well. I think that <hes> oh no you know one point. One five home runs per team per game. I think that's a pretty good level to most people who are not looking at that baseball reference page that lists that obsessively. They wouldn't really know what what what that meant instinctively and so. How do you frame it could just be very broad and general and say d like lots of diggers are not allowed to tinker cirque collect. Lots of runs are not so many runs. Or how much do you care about game time. I guess you can just say you care more about this or that and you can kind of get a sense of what the priorities are made. I'm not an expert designing surveys and i'm sure there are ways that you could crafts this so that you get at what you wanna learn without asking in some extremely esoteric way that the respondents would just baffled by what any of it meant <hes> yeah i bet you a lot of people would reply to survey like that. They think that there's too many steroid users in yeah like it'd be. He's that sort of like your this is basically kinda what you're saying but like <hes> the low engagement baseball fan probably has. I don't know a <hes> yeah like a not. That helpful assessment of where the game is what you probably the most consequential question you could probably ask them as like what what time are you most likely to watch baseball game yeah and like they probably already know that it's probably already tailored to that but like how are you most like. How are you most likely to consume a game. And what time are you most likely to consume a game and then make sure that their games available to them and i don't know what chelsea would really hard. He couldn't like if you just surveyed them unlike what they think of each of the atlantic league curls this year or something like that you'd probably just get kind of a knee jerk resistance to everything. Sometimes you need to expose people to something thing to show them that. They like it and so you'd probably get off then. I just realized how many people are going to answer. The players are paid too much uh-huh yeah right yeah. They're just i mean there's there's wisdom of crowds like at what discount the idea that the millions ginza people who are peripherally aware of baseball might have something to tell you because you want those people to graduate from that group of <hes> yeah you kind of aware of baseball to to our group or or to a middle tier that is paying more attention to baseball spending more money on baseball so i don't wanna let's say that those people have no way to help you but you really have to think a lot about how they could help you because they just might not <music> have kind of the the baseball vocabulary to be able to answer those questions in a way that that would be even reflective of what they themselves would think if the game looked like that maybe i'm being snobby elitist here but it seems like it would be pretty tough to ask about like specific rules because have they thought through the implications and so many rules that are probably a good thing for the game people wouldn't like just because because they haven't been rules before so you want like experts in the field to be making that type of decision but but there are also times when those experts or so in the weeds that they can't even put themselves in the place of the massive audience that you're potentially turning enough the incredible business success that baseball has had over the last few decades is that they have convinced millions of people people many people the ad i mean maybe even the median fan to sit and watch televised games every day it it. It didn't used to be that way. You know you could be a an obsessive baseball fan and it didn't take very much of your dedicated time like you'd have it on the radio a lot. What and you'd talk about it with your friends and you may be read about it. In the newspaper. You could be an obsessive fan but you didn't spend and a lot of your time doing nothing but consuming the game unless you went to the game. Most games weren't on tv. <hes> most games were on the radio and i know no games on t._v. Obviously and then and then up until like the i think what mid-nineties are so you'd have have like. Maybe a quarter of the games would be on t._v. In most markets and then they figured out that they could broadcast every game make billions of dollars on t._v. Rights because they could <unk> they could deliver this huge audiences rather sizable audience the people who were willing to sit for three hours every day for six months and they would watch your commercials for five hundred dollars a year which is incredible right five hundred hours. A year is one thousand episodes of friends like that is so much so many commercials and they did that like that was not that that's like an incredible. I don't the verb is they turned around there. They turn their audience into a you know very dedicated in captive audience that they could sell the advertising and so in that sense from a business perspective. I don't know the baseball. I would say that they could have done any better than that. It is making a lot more money right now than it ever did because of that and the dedicated dedicated fan the hardcore fan is providing way more money to the league than ever did before because now they can basically sell all those eyeballs to cable carriers and advertisers and so we are. Maybe a sense trying to fix the problem or all. We are always trying to fix the problem that the league is like. I mean we'll they pay lip service to the notion that maybe the game it has has something that can be fixed but really like hot how thrilled they must be right yeah. The owners just must if they ever step back jack and think about like what they've done over the last three decades must pinch themselves yeah well. That's one of the things that actually be interested in asking or or finding finding out if i could come up with the right way to ask it is does any of this stuff that we talk about industry actually matter because every the time you see that attendance is declining from its highest high than someone will say well. It's because of the strikeouts in there aren't enough balls and play in there aren't enough stolen on basis and it's a static game and all of that and maybe but i kinda doubt it hits it's possible we certainly obsess over all that stuff and i think you should try to make the game as compelling as possible but arthur that many people who are staying home because the strikeout rate is twenty four percent as opposed to twenty percent. It's hideout it like maybe subconsciously if there is a little less entertainment provided by this version of the game then they're weighing that into their decision but it's gotta come down more to the price the expense of going to a game taking your family to a game and just the amount of competing entertainment options out there those seem like they would dwarf the impact of the style l. of play because if you like baseball it's still pretty much looks like baseball. Things have changed obviously in significant ways but you would recognize this game as has baseball. If you went back fifty years so i just have a hard time believing that many people who would be going to games regularly have sworn off of those games james because the strikeout rates a little higher or the homerun rates high or too many pitching changes or whatever maybe maybe the pitching changes because that's time of game and that's something where it could come into conflict with your other obligations desires but that's one of the things that'd be most interested in answering his does any of this really matter her or is it just that we have this game and the game's pretty good and a lot of people like this game and whether they like it or not comes down to the opportunity opportunity cost essentially more than it does the really intricate details of the game itself. I'm reading knuckleball article and i'm also listening to you and i just noticed that you you you made a reference to my draft. Pick in the second second draft. The second effectively wild trapped when i drafted phil niekro looking old on baseball cards. Oh that's right yeah. You linked to a a blog post about phil l. Niekro looking like a grandfather and baseball cards love that about baseball. That's one of my favorite baseball things toxics. One of the best things about the knuckleball has that you can be a baker without looking at all like a big leaguer. You can pitch past the age where you should be able to do that and not look like an athlete so that's one of the reasons sway. I hope the nobel lives on so. Can we just some up how bad the letting fans catch the ball situation would end up. I just wear it took us was that all the good seats would not be available to fans anymore right so that teams teams would instead of having nine players would have like two hundred players most of whom would only catch you know the other teams this falls and you would not get any of the benefit of getting to catch a ball which is the seemingly appealing thing but you would also not be relieved of any of the obligation to catch a ball because you already don't have that obligation and it would all basically be for no oh real purpose good all right so let's not let's not do that no that all really even occasionally missile. You'd get a good catch. It get someone catching a liner. I assume that these players would have to catch with their bare. Hands like fence to accept that fence can ring they want to and in fact. There's no wouldn't even be a limit on the size of the glove like a field. The field has to have a glove. That's like <hes> twelve or thirteen or whatever engines but there are no rules for fans and since these are theoretically nominally fans bring they can bring butterfly nets if they it yeah this would be very much like the early history of baseball where ostensibly everyone was an amateur but teams that really cared started paying players under the table and so they weren't really amateurs anymore so these players would be kind of like that they'd be fence but it name only and yeah you'd get some cool catches i guess but you'd only be deprived of action that would have happened in the game because usually the game would have continued and you just get to see the hitter. Keep hitting and maybe the fielder make a play eventually now. It would just be this foul ball catcher making the catch. Instead and <unk> wouldn't be particularly particularly fund because a lot of foul balls are just lazy pop ups and it's not impressive to watch that at all kind of fun when you see like a a ballboy oh boy a ball girl make a catch. That's like difficult but part of the appeal of that is that it's a non-professional young person making the catch and and so if this is just ringers than you don't even get that and all to take money directly from the players because he'd have a lot less revenue in the game because all those seats would would be not being salt. It's pretty terrible ramp perfect so we started this episode with a fun fact that i found in the facebook group failed failed to impress you with so. Can we end on another that i also saw. Oh yeah i'm ready. I'm ready to be impressed. This one's going to go better. I know it by by the way this is. What laurentian said about the fun fact about him to me. It's just a funny little stat like a baseball stat. I'm not too into the statistics like that but i know for a lot of people it means a lot. It's cool for a lot of other people but not for mr sam miller. I guess when he said to me. It's just a funny little stat. Ah yes keeping sits. It's a fun fact i mean i'm overwhelmed with admiration for michael veterans and he's starting in center field on thursday state by the way yes the fun fact to meet the mitten outcome next one though this i'm. I'm really excited to be overwhelmed. Hey larry so so. I think this was on twitter. I think christopher camco from n._b._c. sports chicago found it or at least that's where i see it so i don't know if you've seen it already but cody cody bellinger has hit forty four home runs this season and he is hit them off forty four different pitchers <hes> <hes> okay and that's what it sounds interesting. It sounds impressive but you need a little context. I think to understand whether that's actually impressive so it is a record it would be a record if he does not hit a home run off a pitcher. He's already homered off of this season. The rest of the way the record currently is forty. Albert albert potholes hit forty homers of forty different pitchers in two thousand fifteen so bellinger would blow away this record and even ben. You know you you know where this you know. I'm not gonna like this one for a little more context atom in our face vicar he is a richer sheet wizard and he did some quarrying and he determined that seven percent of all twenty plus homer seasons at one percent of all thirty summer seasons and point three percent of of thirty five plus homer seasons are entirely unique in that way so i don't know if that helps it all so if cody bellinger a word to hit a home run against pitcher he'd already homered against that would make his season less impressive well. That is the problem it is. That doesn't really tell you anything about bellinger's talents or about the difficulty of doing this. I guess right. It's just improbable. It's random. I guess you could say that. It's like you know there were forty four different pitchers who were not able to write your him out or keep them in the ballpark or or something right the who has homered against the most pitchers in a season i would say would be impressive and just i think that the cody bellinger one is is is fun in its way i think that is a is a it is an admirable fun fact i would not grouped in with other accomplishments. There's nothing particularly <hes> intentional nor impressive about it homering off forty four pitchers is impressive and the somebody if somebody had a homered off than that that would be even more impressive regardless of how many times he had hit two three or four home runs off. Some of those pitchers mark mcgwire hit homers is off sixty five pitchers. I don't think that that season would have been more interesting if he had only hit. Sixty five home runs so i mean yeah i don't know i i'm glad i'm glad i have heard this. It is it is not going to affect my m._v._p. Ballot all right. I tried some one else in the facebook. Group pointed out that it's kind of like the birthday paradox yance. It seems sort of surprising yeah yeah. It would be so rare to do this and yet it is. It's not quite like that because it's not really random in the way that birthdays are distributed. You tend to face certain pitchers more often than others and that's why it's rare but all right i enjoyed it but ultimately the significance. I suppose not really are we there. Yeah i enjoy it too and in fact as long as we're not wow barry bonds when he seventy three homers he only homered off fifty eight pitchers bellinger catch him as long as we're not. I mean a lot of times. I don't <hes> the <hes> the insignificant fun fact is incredibly fun. It is my i i <hes> somewhat i dunno nervous nature to get aggrieved when people are making too much of something <hes> in and i have a hard so then i cease to enjoy it on its own merits and so this bellinger fun fact i'm i'm. I'm happy to enjoy on its own merits as long as you are also also enjoying it on the same level that i am okay. I'll take that wouldn't it be great if i just didn't have to worry about this at all if i just didn't think this way. Wouldn't that be nice yeah you could just be one of those people who impressed by every stat says wow wow all right by the way following up on a question that meghan i answered on last week's last episode a listener asked about underutilized skills in baseball the games the premise was that some base stealers who have very high success rates in theory should be attempting steals more often because if they're that good at it it would pay off off for them to have a slightly lower success rate but still more basis we were trying to think of some comps for that couple good ones that listeners have suggested since then a pitcher who has is a very effective pitch but doesn't throw it as often as he should and pitchers of course across the league are getting better at throwing their pitches more often if they have good pitches whether through their own initiative initiative or recommendations from the team based on data but that's something you still see to a certain extent you used to see quite a lot because of the idea that you need to establish your fastball that was kind of the baseball dogma and so players who had great breaking balls wouldn't throw them as much as they should have another one something that sam and i talked about on the show years ago is that some teams have very a high success rates when it comes to challenging umpire calls and getting those calls overturned but they don't challenge often so for instance you see the yankees typically don't challenge in july. They saved their challenges for times when they have a very good chance of getting those calls overturned and so they have a great success rate but they don't actually get that many calls overturned and were as the raise for instance or the cubs. I believe they tend to challenge a lot and so their success rate isn't so high but they get a lot more calls going their way which is a lot like the stolen base example except that the penalty for an unsuccessful challenge is a lot lower than the penalty of a caught stealing. You can't support the podcast on patriot by going to patriot dot com slash effectively wild following five listeners have already signed up pledge subsequent the amount to help keep the podcast going and get themselves access to some perks jonte richardson. Dan would adam crow nathan valentine and sean hatch. Thanks to all of you. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1368: Barehand Gab

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1368: Barehand Gab

"Shoot stuff. Shoes. Low and welcome to episode thirteen sixty eight to have affectively wild eight baseball podcast van graphs. Presented by our patriots orders. I am them and of the ringer joined by similar of ESPN below Sam. Then how are you? I am doing. All right. I wanted to talk to you about our pal Richhill who is making his season debut for the dodgers the Sunday he hurt his knee. He strained a ligament during spring training. So he hasn't pitched yet. But he has been making some rehab starts. Did you see how he did his second? I think this is something we've talked about before this schon RA of baseball thing. The good major league player who pitches a rehab game against very low level competition and just destroys the which is always fun. And a reminder of how good baseball players are. So rich hill earlier this week. He made a second rehab start. He had already made one in pitched four scoreless innings for high. And he thought he was ready, but the dodgers. Disagreed. So they had him go and pitch again in extended spring training, which for those who don't know extended spring training. It's kind of a mix of players. But at this point it's typically like low A players it's like short season minor leaguers who are just kind of waiting for short season. Minor leagues to start. And sometimes he get rehabbing big leaguers another guys in there. But that's basically what it is. So rich hill facing these guys he is thirty nine years old as we know. But he absolutely dominated them. He went six innings. He struck out sixteen. He said he threw sixty something pitches and the other two non strike outs came on ground balls. He allowed one hit which he described as a gem shot single, and he was quoted as saying a lot of strikes. Yeah. A lot of strikes. I was really disappointed. They can't believe they won't let a pitcher go for twenty one case these Rieti. He really had a shot at something. Something he coulda had twenty five case, which I'm joking. And then I I am obviously joking but then midway through I forgot that. I was joking. I actually started at think that there might be something about twenty five days when we know that in lower levels. There are examples of you know, like what didn't Clayton Kershaw have a starting high school where he struck out every batter through an all strike out. Perfect game. Yeah. It's just it's great. They're so good at baseball. And you would think like at a certain point. I mean, you wonder when the lines will cross that's another conversation. We've had like when does the young guy catch up to the old guy? And so these are presumably like, I don't know high teenagers low early twentysomethings who were just out of school in some cases. And they're facing thirty nine year olds Richhill, and they almost literally can't touch him. And that's kind of incredible. So you'd have to figure that rebels barring some major injury will be like well into his forties bits not longer before players at this level can actually hit him, which is pretty impressive. Yeah. So I wanna talk about the article that you wrote that is up on ESPN. Do you have anything else for that? I just I just I'm thinking about what you just said in it. That was too profound to rush past with. Right. Like when will when will Richhill be too old for seventeen year olds? I I mean, you'd have to be like fifty it's I mean, he doesn't throw hard, obviously. And he's been banged up. He's got blisters all the time. He has this new thing. So his problem is durability and actually being able to pitch, but if he is healthy or healthy enough to pitch an extended spring game, then criminally he could keep the up for at least another decade or something before it's a even match longer Bill. You remember when Bill pitched in the Pacific association? Right. Well, you weren't there. But you remember that story, and I think he did it a couple times. But one of the times he did it the last time that's publicly listed on his baseball reference page. He threw a complete game. He allowed four runs on eight hits. And it was sixty five. And and you know, we I don't know what the Pacific assoc. Was in two thousand twelve if it was better or worse than when we were there. But we estimated a like a somewhere between a low A and single-a level talent across the league. And a THEO who arranged that as I recall like said it was legit. Like Lee was like legit pitcher. It's not like this was some like pure stunt. Like he was he was really glad because he had billion pennant race. And the other was really mad that they use billion pennant race in even sixty five and it worked so. Yeah, I guess it's it probably depends on the type of pitcher, right? If you're a major leaguer who's solely dependent on blowing guys away. And you just have a really good fastball. A maybe these young guys have seen pretty good fastballs before. And also you're gonna lose your fastball. Whereas if you're rich hill, and you have the special high spin curve, you've just never seen that pitch. If you're in extended spring, and you've probably never seen some of the pitches that Billy had at that level. So. If you've just got like a really nasty breaking ball that these players have just never encountered before. And it's maybe less dependent on speed. You could probably just keep going as long as here like physically able to get the ball of the plate. Yeah. So you wrote speak in Pacific association, you returned to cinema, California, and you hung out with the fight master this past week anti Tommy to yes times. Tommy Lyons MVP of the twenty seventeen Australian baseball minor league season MVP. Yep. Did I say envy p twice? Yes. He well. He won it once but NBP of that league as was four hundred hitter, maybe the last four hundred in professional basement. So you were there to recreate the Kevin Mitchell bare handed over the shoulder catch from nineteen eighty nine. And this was a really fun article because you not only actually attempted to recreate it. But you talked about why it was impressive. And there is a video that I think a lot of our listeners would like to see of you attempting to and then kind of succeeding in this catch. Why would what he marginalizing the cats more? The only one it shows you completing is not really a perfect replica of of the Kevin Mitchell. Catch you may have made other ones, but. It shows you screwing up in a pretty entertaining way. I would definitely subscribe to a series of similar recreating famous baseball plays and and falling on his face in the process that do I have to does it count as falling on your face of its predetermined that I'm going to fall on my face. Well, yeah. As long as it's genuine, but it might be genuine every time. So I describe the falling on my face to my editor as sincere and severe. So I think the maybe the best part of the article is the the quotes that you got from the ESPN cricket cover, Jack one great quote. I know what you're gonna say. That's a it's a it's an all time or of a phrase that we use about a million times on. Yes. Generally, great. Because you you wanted to talk to someone who covers cricket because cricket. They make barehanded catches all the time. And so he wasn't even particularly impressed by the Kevin Mitchell play. And he said that in cricket. I think we'd call it RC rather than classy. There was more elegance of this catch. But I didn't think it was that amazing. You even went and got cricket analytics company data on how often cricketers catch barehanded attempts which. Yeah. Jared seventy seven percent period. Jared. The cricket expert got those for me to to confirm his own estimates. Yeah. Uh-huh. So the company took I saw that you asked on Twitter for like the most iconic catch other than the Willie Mays catch and there were quite a few replies. Who suggests that the Kevin Mitchell catch, and that was not one of the ones that initially came to my mind. I think probably because it was a bit before my time. I was too when that happened. And I was not watching it live as you were. And as a giants fan or someone who grew up giants fan. I'm sure you saw this sodomise zillion times. Yeah. And I have I mean, I am aware of it. But I haven't been exposed to it as many times as you have. But I think judging by. The Twitter replies. A lot of people would consider this may be the most indelible catch memorable. Catch. Impressive catch perhaps. Yeah. It's hard to it's hard to you. Don't know every person on Twitter's age. And so it's possible that it is undoubtedly the most famous at second most famous right, obviously, the most famous catch in baseball history is undeniable everybody knows that once second most. So it could be without a doubt the second most famous catch for like a six year range of of human births. It's hard to know like Jeff passan said that one in Jeff passan's to me, I'm content to let Jeff passan be the final word on baseball issues such as this one. I think he's like exactly your age or something like that. But that that might have something to do with it. Yeah. And Riley Breckenridge gave me this one as well. And a lot of people gave me this one. This was I think that that this was probably I didn't count. But I think this was probably the one of. The two most common answers that I got this one in Jackson running up the wall. Yeah. And I was surprised because I think the Mitchell, and I got more than the Jim Edmonds one. And I thought Jim Edmonds was was definitely the second. Most though point of aunt asking this question was actually just to test. I wanted to say that it was one of the most famous catches in baseball history. Maybe as high as second or third, and then I thought well is that true? I don't know the easy way to measure famous to ask people what's famous, and so I thought that the Edmonds catch would be the clear number two, and it wasn't. But there were a lot of great catches listed here for sure famous catches and famous catches. I wasn't thinking of and some that I thought were underrepresented. But again, it's hard to know if that's just my generation, but it really felt like the you guys you may talked. I think the other day about the decline of blue burritos in major league baseball, and the the sort of the baseball clips package of both bloopers and also extrordinary. Plays was a lot represented a lot more of our baseball consumption in the old days than it does now. And so like the Kevin Mitchell one, I you're right. I saw it zillion times, partly because it would it would it would be on these clips packages that you'd see at stadiums. Also because it would be it was part of the giants television broadcast intro montage. So you'd see it before every game, but two of the huge huge huge plays of that era were the minor leaguer catching the ball and then running right through the wall. And the I believe Japanese ballplayer who climbed the fence who planted his foot grabbed the rail Ren extended likes, you know, a full probably eleven feet into the air to catch the ball. And both of those I expected would be a little bit would be named more than sandy Amoros was but sent him morals one. Yeah. Let's famous one, but it comes from the year after Willie Mays catch. So a lot of people probably just aren't as where of. Had that I guess Bill James chimed in on your price suggests rice the World Series of twenty seven. Yeah. So he said Sam rice in twenty four twenty five with didn't remember, which one that someone disqualified. I also got I forget who it was. But someone in nineteen forty seven. I don't know. I feel like that that while that it certainly puts that catch in the conversation. It also sort of rules it out because you don't remember who did it. Yellow jacket yet? Yeah. And I'm saying it the person who suggested it said someone in nineteen forty seven. That's right. Yeah. Well, we don't have to rehash all of them. If you're if you're thinking of one in your head. I'm sure someone said it in the replies to Sam here. So co check out that Twitter thread, I've been in recent years you'd probably include like Jim Edmonds and Gary Matthews. Gary Matthews catches is probably my favorite Gary methods junior. That is but more than any ice specifically created this. So that Indian and Gary Matthews would not benefit from recency bias. And so I said why not not including the last fifteen years? But you'd say Edmonds over over India. I'm indie guy. Well, we're talking about most famous not just which one we personally like the most. I mean, I think right. Yeah. If I had to just if I could only watch one catch on loop for the rest of my life. It probably be Gary Matthews junior catch. But but he was great. And because it happened at a very prominent moment, maybe it is more famous. But anyway, they're let a choices, but you chose Kevin Mitchell. You wanted to recreate this one because I think you were curious about what it would feel like for one thing to catch Paul barehanded and how much it would hurt. And it turns out that it hurts a little but manageable amount. So you didn't do serious damage to any of your hand towns. Like, yeah. I partly one of the reasons I wanted to write about the Mitchell catches that I had not that long ago. Read the Willie Mays biography by James Hirsch, and they taught her talks about how about one of mazes. Barehanded catches that's not on film. But that some Willie Mays like kind of complete would say his actually his greatest catch and people the time any thought it was his greatest catching, and I've always been kind of. I don't know. I've I've not really reckoned with the question of what what is bare catch where does it fit in the highlight scale? It's it's unnatural for sure it's unexpected for sure I don't know how hard. It is difficult. It is. I don't really know how to separate the arsonists of it sometimes from the necessity of it from the from the sheer reaction to desperate straits kind of component of it. And so I having not been able to see the Willie Mays plays. I was I was somewhat. I was somewhat both skeptical of the claims about his barehanded catches and also really curious to see them like in. I thought wow, the fact that I'm this curious to see them says something about it. And so the Mitchell catch is the conic bear and catch there have been a few other barehanded plays. But they tend to be either close to the batter or sort of like looping balls like David Wright barehanded catch or pitcher. Sometimes we'll make barehanded catch or catchers will sometimes make barehanded catches on like on very low pop ups. So those are sort of different. And so the fact that the Mitchell catch turns thirty years old today was its own kind of anomaly, even within that. John Rahm of highlights made it something I wanted to explore. Yeah. Well, this was personal to me because the best play of my brief baseball career or my brief baseball competitive career was also a barehanded play. It was not a catchment. I was playing second base in eighth grade on my grammar school team say David's against the other school team in the city, collegiate and I got a bad hop. It was just one of those like unconscious things if I had had to plan it and think about it it probably wouldn't have happened, but got a bad hop and just in the moment just reached out, and sort of grabbed it and started a double play, which at that level. Is you can Hugh cannot assume the double play in eighth grade ball. So I did that and it was such an impressive play that the other team the collegiate team actually like applauded. Out at second base. And that was the best moment of my competitive. It's welker. And I've had other bad hops that did not go. So well at one bad Hup broke my nose other that was a bad Haba a tree root. They did not tear the uniform off my back. Although I'm sure that they would have just kind kinda quit playing baseball because I want to go to practice. But that was the the best moment of my competitive athletic grew good one is where now do I have to say mine. Sure for also I'll tell you the best moment of my competitive baseball career. But, but I I wanna say that Ben you also are factored into some of the development of this article without knowing it because so Alan Nathan did me the solid of of figuring out. How hard the ball that ATI Smith hit two. Kevin Mitchell was likely going. I found a ball that was comparable in distance traveled in in height or hang time and to get the exit the likely exit philosophy and launch angle Jala, Nathan hand, this great trajectory calculator that could tell me how fast. The ball was going at each hundreds of a second of its flight and at its apex, and and so on and so the answer is a fairly kind of an unimpressive loss. Ity ball was probably hit about ninety five to a hundred miles an hour. But by the time Mitchell Kadett it was going much slower. In fact, roughly speaking, it was going about as fast, as you know, about a sixty mile an hour pitch would be going when it crossed home plate. And you pitched to me the day that we clinched the first half championship in the junk association. And I think I remember this, right? I'm not totally sure. But you when we've we timed are. So we clocked ourselves when we were setting up the pitch FX system. And we you know, we were in the light low sixties or so right and low to mid sixties. And so you pitch to me. And if I remember correctly, you were wild and you kept throwing pitches that were right at me and one of and I had to swat them away with my bare hand, and I believe one of them. I caught. You threw it at my face. And I caught it and I thought well, you know, if if the ball that Mitchell caught was was only going that hard like that was not a life changing event for me to catch that. And so it it's sort of struck me as as interesting that one of the great highlights in baseball out of unlike all the other great highlights in baseball is something that you could actually do that you could kinda recreate potentially. I wasn't sure. So that was I wanted to test that greatest moment of my baseball career was when I was catching in Bronco. So that's eleven twelve I was twelve year old. And I was I was very little. I was the probably the second smallest kid in the link depending on whether Sean Molin was in town or not Sean lived in my town and then moved away and then came back. He was I think small to me Charlie Regan's happy when he came back. I I was I was good friends with Sean too. And Charlie Rodriguez was probably smaller than me. But he was he was a legit athlete. So I was right. They are among the smallest kids in the league. But I was a that year. I was a catcher which I was really proud of it to be that little in that and to be a catcher. And so this guy who was the the biggest or the second biggest kid in the league barreled into me at home plate. I mean, he was out by forty feet and he wanted to knock me out, and he just came right into me. He was intimidating and he just plowed, right? Into me full head of steam. And I remember flying about fifteen feet straight back like in cartoon, maybe I might have left an indentation in the backstop of from where my body hit. And but I held onto the ball and everybody my whole team charged in around me to Pat me on the back in my my old coach who owned Las Palmas Mexican restaurant in town, which is a good Mexican restaurant. Ran out sprinted out and picked me up. And gave me a bear hug and carried me to the tug out. Oh, that's nice. It was nice. I've got an Email for later in the episode about catchers flying backwards. So maybe we'll get to that one the new. Yes. The thing you pointed out in this article this that the catch itself. I mean, if you have an unlimited number of opportunities to try it is not really that impressive because you can kind of recreate it. But it's impressive because it's unexpected. And because spur the moment, and you just to the circumstances. And and that maybe if he had taken a better route or something he wouldn't have had to do this. But he did it, and that was kind of the case with with my bare handed play to which I think was a one hopper, and that makes it more impressive. How does that apply to? And as a number of people are probably thinking there was very recently a barehanded play by Freddie, Galves who cut a pop up a bear hinted, and that was great. How does this apply to like more routine barehanded place, which I guess are never really routine in baseball? But if you're a third baseman, let's say you you make barehanded plays pretty often. That's. That's different because philosophy is not really effect. Or you're not worried about hurting your hand, you're worried about just picking it up cleanly and making the throat, and it's also just part of the job. But it still one of the more impressive parts of that job. So I guess even there where it's not as uncommon occurrence just doing something barehanded in baseball where you have glove to do things. That's pretty much always impressive. Yeah. Mark simon. I think when he was at ESPN when he was a on the stats and info team at ESPN had baseball info solutions one year track all the plays where fielder picked the ball up with his bare hand either. Or maybe call the ball with his bare hand, I wanna say though, that it was like fielded a ball with his band. So I think you know, even charging I think even charging in on Bunsen things like that when accounted but. Yeah, the the the I remember thinking that it was very interesting that they were gonna try. Wackos than I remember at some point thinking that it was was very interesting. Just how low the numbers were like the leaderboard was not that interesting because it was like three like guy had three. And so those plays are very rare. And so anything that requires that kind of spur of the moment. Innovation is worth. I think. Yeah. We're thinking about the the role of improvisation in good defense. That's kind of a staple of like entertain Simmons place that we have broken down on this podcast, Meghan. I just talked about his tag that he made unlike a kind of quasi hidden ball trick the other day, and that was the sort of thing where at the think of doing it that was not like physically impressive. But often when we talk about Simmons. It is partly like, I'm trying to remember the one specific play that is kind of coming to my mind. But not quite that he made where it wasn't just the physical aspect of it that was impressive. But like that he even thought to do the thing that he did like throwing to. Ever Basie through two or running to it. Sometimes he'll just have incredible range and get up incredibly quickly and make it amazing throat. But other times it's like he's just it's almost like Gretzky like like he's seeing the ice in a way that no one else's seeing sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So I will link to that article everyone. Go read it and more importantly, watch it. You gotta click just to watch them phone face. Yeah. I I think that the I think it cuts off for the audio but the face I one I fell into a patch of mud. It was the reason I fell is that the area was so CT in waterlogged incompletely muddy. And so not only did I fall, but I fell into to basically a pig sty, and I immediately hopped up to explain mud. I think that got cut off. So just know that it was also muddy. Okay. All right. So we're going to do some emails here. I have one from Colin who says Cleveland goes into today, not literally today. But whatever day it was when Cullen emailed us third in pitching strikeout rate twenty seven point eight percent and second to last in hitting strikeout rate twenty seven point four percents after Flying Cross country and facing coochie and the Blue Jays facing Martine prison the twins pen and with Trevor Bauer pitching they could be I in both percentage stats tomorrow. Not sure where the question isn't here. Other than if we assume Balsam play make the game. Interesting. Is this Cleveland team the most unwatchable in L be with respect to the fact that they neither put the ball in play nor allow it to be put in play at recognize that it's generally good to see your team's pitcher strike guys out would perhaps a team with high hitting strikeout rate and low pitching strikeout rate be more difficult to watch. So I just. I looked up the numbers as they stand today. So if you're wondering about the team with the highest combined strikeout rate, it's actually the raise who have a fifty three percent combined strikeout rate Cleveland is actually in extremely close second at fifty two point nine. So there are sixteen as we speak that are over fifty percent. So you do get a bigger range here than you would get in just hitting or just pitching strikeout rate like in pitching strikeout rate. You might get a staff that maybe ten percentage points higher on the high end than the lowest strikeout team. But when you're talking about combined strikeout rates, you have the raise it fifty three percent. Then you have the angels who just don't strike out anymore on offense. And also don't have a very high strikeout pitching staff. They are at thirty seven point eight percent. So there's like almost seventeen percentage point spread between the race. And the angel soak. Do you think that the premise? Holds does this actually correlate to watch ability. But well, I'm kind of on record is not being opposed to strikeouts. Particularly when it's good pitchers striking out batters. I I do think that watching if your if your attention is more on the batter than strike outs or no fun. I don't think they're considerably less fun than week groundouts or or fly ball lazy fly balls to the outfield. So I think that separating the the entertainment value of strikeouts with the entertainment value of actual offense is is important. If you give me two teams that both had a combined say, you know, six runs per game of offense allowed in offense scored I don't think I would care if it was strikeouts. Based or not strikeouts based I also think that walks and home runs are also part of this. Maybe not home runs people like runs, but walks her part of it and. Wind does not walk particularly often. I'm correct. The hang on. I was just looking at this. And I forgot to navigate it away doesn't manage trust me. And they don't walk many batters. They walk very few. I think there are last. No, they're not last but there near the bottom in the American League in issuing walks. I would much rather see a team that doesn't issue walks than a team that does she walks that would be my dealbreaker. But you know, it is true that strikeouts. Have some effects on the game outside of that particular play appearance strikeout. Pitchers tend to have higher pitch per plate appearance rates, and they tend to also often have more walks because the counts tend to go a little bit deeper in there not being ended on contact Cleveland has would see here by their pitchers have the league average pitches per plate appearance. So they're not long played appearances. And so all in all I would say that simply. Knowing their strikeout rate does not move me in any way. And particularly because I think that they're pitching staff is really interesting and bridges pitchers that strike batters out tend to be the ones that you want to see the startup, you know, there was a I remember at one point when they were thinking about expanding the the netting behind in front of the fans to save fans from like errand fly balls and bats and people were like well now, nobody's gonna wanna sit in those seats and Harry pepitas pointed out like the most expensive seats in the park are all behind netting right now. And like, you would kind of be foolish to think people really like nets. But you would also take that appropriately. To mean, that people don't mind nets enough not to spend tons of money on the best seats. It is not a dealbreaker. And I feel like the fact that when you look at pitcher matchups on MLB dot com and decide which games you're gonna watch that day all the pitchers that you wanna see strike out. The most batters is not necessarily proof. That strike outs are inherently more. Interesting. But it definitely proves that good pitching is. And that strikeouts. Are not an obstacle to enjoy. Good pitchers. Yeah. Well, I was just going to make a similar point. Which is that people often speculate about how many strikeouts too many strikeouts. And a lot of people think we've already reached or passed that point and others think we haven't. But that there probably is a point where there would be too many. And so if you just talk about the race this year, I think the rays are perceived to be a fun and enjoyable baseball team. Right. I took the raise with my fourth pick in our team fund draft. And I've seen a lot written about just how the razor good and fund cool baseball team and yet in race games this year there have been more strikeouts than in any other teams games. But they're pretty fun. I mean, I wouldn't wanna use raise attendance figures to prove my point. But but that's for other reasons not because of the strikeouts. So if you can have fun watching Tampa Bay rays games right now just. Because the team is fun than that suggests that you could tolerate a came where the strikeout rate is considerably higher than it is across the league today. Even if you look at like, the let's see the fifth highest combined strikeout rate right now the Padres at fifty point eight percent generally acknowledged that the Padres are fun team. Not because of the strikeouts, but for other factors, so yeah, I mean, that's like a it's kind of a preview of where baseball could be. If this trend continues for another five ten years said, maybe every game is like that. Now, maybe that's too much. But still kind of makes you. It does. All right. So let's take a couple of questions. These are two very similar questions. So I'll read this one. This is from that who is a beleaguered Orioles fan. He says would it be of any advantage to a rebuilding team to look at future rule changes and start drafting acquiring or developing players who are particularly suited to potential future. Rules. I can imagine that for some particularly bad teams say the Orioles, the Marlins, the royals, etc. There may be a strategic advantage of proceeding ahead of the actual rule changes in order capture any first mover advantage. But at the same time a team that moves too soon could be saddled with players who aren't well qualified for whatever actual rules go into effect, for example, when I first heard that mobile was testing enlarged base. I thought great news for the royals their speedy team might actually have an advantage in the modern Melby than I realized that most of their current lineup may be long gone by the time a hypothetical change in bag size goes into effect. So in short, what is the best time. To start preparing for a future rule change. And which perspective changes. Would you optimize around? We got almost the same question from Chris in Silver, Spring, Maryland who is also in Orioles fan. So I guess this is what Oriels feds are thinking about right now. This team is terrible. Can we like do something? So that it will be good when they change the rules. Remind me what a few years ago like five years ago when the strike zone was kind of moving around a little bit. And there was the low the expanded low strike zone for a couple years and wasn't a key. At the case that the Red Sox, really, yes. Vantage of that had this pitching staff that was just perfectly suited for the big low strike zone dominated won the World Series. And then they changed the strike zone. More or less. Yeah. Alex pier. Wrote about this in his BP annual essay in two thousand eighteen I think what happened was the Red Sox saw that the zone was expanding and getting lower. So they went and got a bunch of guys like Portillo and Masterson, and my Lee and Kelly and they. Buckholtz, and then they were gonna get catchers who were good at framing low pitches like Vasquez and Ryan Hanigan. And then they would kind of do the pirates thing just like low in this own get good framing shift a lot get grounders. But then the ball changed. I don't think it was the strike zone. Changing so much as it was the ball and then hitters started golfing, those low pitches, and they turned into home runs and the two thousand fifteen grit SOX pitching was a disaster. So I think that's what happened, and then they embraced high fastballs Brian Bannister came in and suddenly they were elevating everything. But that's the idea you have a strategy. And then circumstances change that's one thing or sometimes we'll get questions or you'll hear well if robot on sir coming then maybe you don't have to worry about catcher defense anymore. And so you could just have a bunch of sluggers back there who can't receive pitches properly because by the time, they get to the majors it won't matter anymore. I mean, the two ordinarily in in I think for most baseball history, ordinarily, you would you would say, well you. The you'll have a probably have, you know, as sort of fairly long sense of when the rules changes are coming rules. Changes tend to be pretty minimal baseball's conservative sport major league baseball, the Commissioner's office because conservative body, and there's probably not a lot to be gained by the sort of thing. Especially when you're talking about players when you mentioned the royals it's not just that they're players won't necessarily be there. But they're players are kinda like they're marginal. A lot of more marginal one year guys. Anyway, who are going to be like, you're not putting a six year deal on on Billy Hamilton at this point. So that you can really lock in those extra one point five inches, right? That he has between the basis, but we're at a point where I think three things to maybe maybe to home lump in these, but have sort of changed the way that you might think about that question. One is that they announced pretty significant rules changes coming into play. Next year with that will with you know, with lefties specialists with one one batter sorry. But what is it? How many outs remind me you have to face at least three batters ending any. So the out which we we don't exactly know how much that's gonna play like we've talked about it. It could be something that only affects a few a very few number of appearances. Or it could be that it essentially banishes twenty five established major leaguers from the majors because they no longer have that a thin margin of of of advantage. And though the fact that they would would make a move that affects like that. So so much effects like, you know, five percent of the A player pool of the union members with with very little lead in time. Does kind of make you feel like this is a less conservative Commissioner's office than we've ever had or at least that we've had in some time. And so I. You don't totally rule out that he will make a significant change with fairly short notice. But the other thing is that we have a greater appreciation for how much the strike zone matters in subtle ways. And we also know that the strike zone is shifting in substantial ways from year to year in sometimes even within seasons, and that if you can adapt to the strike zone before anybody else there there really is a big advantage potentially. There. We also I think especially we know that the value of changing ball to a strike or a strike to a ball is much bigger than we thought for much of baseball history. And so so there does seem to be some potential there in the other thing is that we have a baseball that radically changes from year to year or has for the last few years in that dictates all sorts of changes in strategy and potentially in who is in who isn't good. And so I. I'm more open to the premise that you could be gaming out. Some of these changes in advance. If you're a team the tricky thing is that the ball itself is unpredictable. That's the other lesson of the last four or five years, it, you don't know what the ball that you play within the second half his going to be like, even if you know what the ball in the first half is like necessarily strike zone is to some degree similar is the Red Sox example shows, and so this is to now go back to the original proposition that you should probably mostly focus on getting good players and helping them be their best cells. Yep. I agree. I think between the uncertainty about when things will happen. We don't know that they will happen usually. And even if we do no you may be just get one seasons lead time. And then there's also the fact that most rule changes or not that significant and there's an element of unpredictability to all of this. Because of the ball, changing and other circumstances changing. I just don't think it makes that much sense. Like, there could be a scenario where you have truly terrible team. And you know, for sure that that something is going to be changing even something like robot ups. I mean, I think it's inevitable will be robot ups, but I couldn't tell you when that will happen. And I certainly wouldn't start doing anything right now to plan on that happening is going to be tested in the Atlantic league this year. So it's conceivable that that could happen in the majors as soon as I don't know two or three years, but it's entirely plausible that it might not happen for ten years or twenty years. So who knows it's it's just not something I would plan on right now. All right. Hypothetically, ben. So we know that the that the baseball this year appears to be livelier than the baseball last year. And we could not have known that coming into the season. But let's say that somehow one team the Aaron Diamondbacks young do they knew what the baseball was going to be. What it was gonna play like and how the game was going to be different in twenty nineteen compared to twenty eighteen of their active current twenty five man roster. How many different players do you think they would have instead of the twenty five they have now if we're just talking about going from like last year, which was what the second highest home run rate ever to this year, which is on pace to be the highest home run rate ever. Yeah. Probably no difference. I think I think that's probably true. Yeah. Now, we were talking about like going from twenty fourteen let's say when homers were way down to this year. Then I think if you had an understanding of how these things affect players and performance, which probably teams do today more so than they did at that time. But I think you probably if you had enough lead time that you could actually make transactions to prepare for that. I think you would probably have let's say. Three different players, maybe three different hitters, and Eddie might instruct your headers differently as well. Because there's certain things that you could teach hitters to do. You know, you might optimize their swings for a one type of ball that you wouldn't do for another type of ball. So I think that might be you'd probably change like how you instruct your young players. Although by the time, they're big leaguers who knows if things will be the same. So yeah, I'd say a few and maybe you embrace a different hitting philosophy. And if they really outlawed the shift today do how many roster spots. Do you think would be affected would anybody lose their job would anybody chain? Would there be anybody? Who's position changed with their be anybody who was suddenly seen as either a better or a worse option on gig team? I think there have been certain players who have been driven out of the game or have had their playing time. Reduce. I as a result of the shifts. Oh, you're thinking of hitters, aren't you? I'm thinking hitters. I was doing of defenders. But yeah, of course, there's also the question of hitters in his this. Also the question in the middle maybe of pitchers. Yeah. For fielders for fielder site. I think probably we've seen some teams like maybe the brewers be willing to put someone like a middle infield spot or something or or you might like right now there's concern about Vlad junior. And can he play third because if there's a shift than he'd have to turn a double play, and will he be comfortable will he be capable of doing that? And so maybe he moves to first base sooner than he would otherwise or something like that. But yeah, I I'd say I mean, some players would be affected like lightly affected by would you guess that Angleton Simmons war would go up or down. If there were no shifts. Is that like assuming that war is accounting for the shift in in a correct way. Yes. Whatever defensive metric is accurately appraising area. So I would guess I would think that for a player like him. I guess it goes down but slightly. I think probably someone like him who has such extreme range. Maybe if the shift allows you to compensate for other players subpar range than it narrows the gap between him and that player, but on the other hand he gets the shift to and so he just gets to apply that great range even more efficiently. So maybe the the gap between him and everyone else or him in the worst guy shrinks, but I would guess that shrinks less than we would think. Right. So instead of being a hundred percent better than say the replacement level. Maybe now he's one hundred twenty percent without the shift robot the range of plays that he's involved in. Shrinks from ecstasy ninety percent of x and so yeah. His ability to enforce his superiority on more plays has gone out. So it yeah. I know could go it's a math problem now. Step Lestat last. All right. So I got a question that I was just going to because it didn't seem like it would matter particularly. But I found myself having an opinion about it. I was surprised and thinking, oh, yeah. I do have. I also have felt a thing along those lines. So this question was from heaven who says via PA via patriot. Hello the other night Cleveland had Jake Bowers as it's the H batting eighth in the lineup. And whenever I see a D H in the bottom third of the lineup. I think the team must beat deficient in some way. I was wondering is there any pattern to a team's win loss record in the place in the order of the two teams with the batting in the bottom third. Ten have a worse record than a team with D H batting third or fourth. And so Ben, what's your what's your reaction? When you see D H batting. Do you have any reaction as Kevin does? Or do you have no reaction and in? Retrospect, do you have a position on this question? My perception is that this would have become more common recently that in the past teams had more dedicated the ages who were probably better at hitting. Whereas today, you get fewer dedicated the H is and more guys who were just kind of rotating out of that position and maybe comeback from injury or something. And so I think I feel like I've seen studies or articles on this that the playing time at the h is distributed differently. So I think today I would not make much of this. But at an earlier point, I think I might have. And I would have thought that it would hurt you because if you have at the H slot on your team if you're an American League team, that's a place where it seems like you should be able to go get a good hitter. And so if you fail to do that then year, you're passing up and upper -tunities that other teams are probably. Taking advantage of it seems like it should be easier to get a hitter who can hit closer to the top of the lineup at the H because you don't have to have that guy play defense. And so I would think that you're passing up in vintage in therefore, you'd be worse. But, you know, not notably. So well, let me I swat down your premise there. There is not an increase Indiana's batting at the bottom of the lineup. If you look at Deitch is batting eighth or h is batting ninth. The most common the years where that was most common were were, you know, before before nail some, you know, there's a bunch of years on the air, but ten years twenty years ago five years ago, not not in the last few years. But otherwise. Yeah, you could you can make a case that a D H batting eighth says. Wow. That team has got a lot of hitters, right? Even because everybody should be able to have a competent D H. And so if you assume that at the very Lee. Least. Well, if you assume that almost every team is going to have a hitter, not necessarily David Ortiz, obviously. But a hitter a guy who's good enough to hit in the major leagues and good enough by a large enough margin that he can do it even though he can't play the field. And they're so good that they have him eighth, then they must have a really deep lineup, otherwise or you could say, wow. That team can't even get offense out of D H. They're giving away offense. They have this position where they ought to be able to get some offense. And they're just giving it away. They're taken an L on that. And it also I think maybe significantly to you could start to kind of write a character study of this team based on this, which is that there, maybe they're a bad front office. If they've been unable to fill the easiest position in the field with a good hitter. I sort of thinking about it like, you know, everybody knows the the the green Eminem's have to be removed clause in contract writers, you know, for for bands. And everybody. Would make fun of those and go, can you believe this premadonna wouldn't have green Eminem's? But then the artists then explained. Oh, well, it's not actually about the M's. It's about making sure that the that the that the that the arena staff are competent and up to the job, and that they read the contract because if they can't take care of the EMS than they're not going to be able to make sure that the electrical stuff is water proof or that the stage is safe. And so it's a it's the easy. That's the easy task. You check that to see if they're up to the harder tasks, and if a team can't do the easy task of having at least a league average hitter at D H, then you know, what are the odds that they're going to have a solid middle. Infielder, whatever. So that's another thing where you could speculate that it might work out. And so so I I also feel the way that Kevin did without realizing it I never quite acknowledged this viewpoint that I had. But as soon as Kevin said, I thought yes, I also think that when a. Team has a D H batting eighth. It's kinda like haha they have batting eighth bad rate. And so then we're gonna blast some stats to see this through. So what I did. I is I looked at all team games since two thousand ten in which D H was batting ninth in which was batting eighth and in which a D H was batting seventh. And I looked at the record of those teams we have a a total of two thousand six hundred games over that nearly decade. And that those twenty six hundred teams with those twenty six hundred D H is in the bottom third are essentially exactly five hundred. They went twelve ninety three and thirteen to which is the equivalent of eighty point seven win team over the course of a season. So it says absolutely nothing about your team in this way of looking at it. But this isn't really the way to look at it. Because these could be one out probably a lot of these would be just one off day. As where you'll are. You know, maybe your main D H is getting the day off in. So you've got whatever backup is going to play that day. And maybe you're pulling your second baseman to give him a little break as well from the field, and so used to nobody should expect him to be hitting. And in fact, a and in fact, if if that's the case, then your primary D H, isn't there that day? So you're worse than the team you planned on and your second baseman. Maybe isn't feeling that day. So your defense might be worse than you than the roster that you built, and so it's a really kind of a misleading way of looking at it what we really want to see our teams that apparent that that did this enough that it reflects their planning either they intended it this way or they were forced into this situation for persistent period of time. So I looked at the five teams throughout the past throughout the D H era that had the most games in a season with the h batting ninth. The most. Games in a season with D H batting eighth and the most games in a season with the batting seventh so five at each level fifteen total teams. And so those fifteen teams include a wide variety of of team quality the two thousand two Yankees. For instance, had are the second most common D H batting ninth team in history. They had thirty one games where the batted ninth if I'm not mistaken. I think that most of those went to Nick Johnson, and they were a hundred and three win team. That's a really good team. If you look at the teams that had the D H batting eighth most frequently number three and number five are also Yankees teams. They are the seventy seven seventy eight Yankees who had back to back hundred win seasons. The most common steetch batting seventh team is the eighty two brewers who I believe was that the year the Dan Ogrin wrote. Nine innings. Yeah. Could be the brewers won ninety five games. They were really good. And if you there's one team that is on both of these lists, which is the twenty thirteen Orioles who won eighty five games. And you know, they were they had their number one on the batting ninth. And number two on the H batting eighth. So cumulatively that's the the most in the top two those two spots. And they were a good team in, you know, eighty five wins is pretty good team. But also, I mean, we can all remember Poltimore pitching staff that year. So without looking it up. I bet their offense was pretty good cumulatively. We have these fifteen teams they averaged about eighty seven and a half wins eleven of the fifteen were winning teams and more of them won ninety six games or more than one eighty one games or fewer. And Furthermore, if you took this one step further in these games these games specifically. So we know that. For instance, the hundred three win Yankees had a D H batting ninth thirty one times. But that's only thirty one games. They also maybe they were much better in the other games. But in fact, no if you look at just the games for these fifteen teams when they had a D H batting seventh eighth or ninth. They went four hundred and fifteen and three thirty seven which is the equivalent of an eighty nine point four win team. So they were even better when they're Deitch was batting in the bottom of the order and a good example, probably of how this plays out is a were maybe a good not how it plays out. But one example of how a great team has a gets on this list is that the most common team to have a D H batting ninth. This year's the Astros who have Tony Kemp batting ninth. Every so often, and that's where he should bat. He he should be the ninth hitter. And he should probably not really be the h but the Astros have an incredible team of an. Very good offense. And they they they use their ages. A lot of teams use their these days, partly to get guys rest, partly as a little bit of a rotating thing and so on and so forth. So the you would not say that the Astros are of bad offense. Obviously. Despite this the fact that sometimes happens. Yeah. Maybe I wonder I guess you could even say that they have at the h who's kind of after thought because they have such great hitters everywhere else than they just figured that could go get it. The H didn't put their attention on that spot. I know why I thought what I thought about the when you asked me about it that teams were kinda using it as a place to just park guys in not really starting people there. I think I was remembering twenty seventeen which was the worst D H year. At least in recent memory fan graphs has league wide splits by position going back to two thousand two and two seventeen was by far the worst year. For Deitch is Deitch headed ninety five of your c plus that you're the only year that the ages have hit worse than the league average in that span partly because David Ortiz retired after the previous season just subtracting him from the stats actually kinda did that. But there were some tread pieces written about this at the time. So like beyond the bucks gore had one December twenty seventeen who killed the H. And it's funny because that post actually links to an earlier post by Cameron at fan Gress from two thousand ten is the D H dying, and Dave was responding to kind of a low ebb for D H offense from two thousand eight to two thousand ten and he advanced the theory that I was just describing there about how teams are just using it as a place to give guys arrest and then the HFS offense recovered and right now, obviously we're just a month into the season. But Deitch is this year heavy one seventeen WRC, plus which would be by far the highest on record. So. So yet the ns is doing just fine. And last year twenty eighteen they had a one ten which was the second highest in the span always be wary of you'll see like some years like one position. We'll just have a great year or are you working on? I wrote one I wrote I wrote one in December. Aired did you do? Third baseman were better than first baseman for the first time in like ever, something I missed that one. But I'm sure you're rushed. Hell was good. But if we look back on it in five years. I'm going to bet. It doesn't age that great. Just you see this all the time because it's like it's kind of deceptive because you think wow. The whole leagues that position hit terribly or hit great this year. Then you remember it's really just like thirty guys DA Chevy. So you're talking about like fifteen teams for the most part. And so that's more subject to fluctuations. But that just happens. It doesn't take that much to like change the league wide average for position. And so you can always talk yourself into like while the other reason why like Jeff, and I have talked about how maybe you'd expect middle infield offense to be up because guys can shift now, and maybe range isn't quite as important. So you can get like bigger second basemen, and you can have second baseman hit lots of homers, which they did a year or two ago. But sometimes it just happens to be that cohort of second baseman who just happened to be playing second base at that time. And then they go away and other guys come in. And they're not as good, and then it suddenly different. So you can go back in. Find many examples of that type of peace that probably just proved to be a blip. But sometimes it's real. Yeah. One of the one of the when we talked about things that were anomalous in two thousand nineteen in whether they were real or not one of the things I thought about mentioning was that at at that point that you and I had that discussion shortstops head been the best hitters in baseball that season they had the highest COPS. Plus, and I didn't bring it up because I thought well, it's not real just not it's all the way not real. And they have pulled the now they're now they're like fifth. They're already it was it was eight what nine ten eleven days ago that we recorded that they're already down to one two three four fifth. So, you know, you're right. Yeah. Hey, you didn't you didn't ask if I had banter? I just want to don't don't move on from that. We can talk about the okay you want. But then don't move on before you asked by Banja. This is kind of peak period for shortstop offense. At least like I don't know. Maybe if you went back. To the jeeter Todd of carseat para a Rudd era, it'd be different. But the last four years are the highest league-wide WRC plus for shortstop offense in the the period since two thousand two and this year is at one oh five right now, which would be easily the highest. So there's some truth to that one day down with. But the the shortstops are not the new left fielders. Okay. What did you say Christian yelich the other day? Well, I think it was yesterday had the day off and he pinch hit. But he didn't start in Christianity is on pace to hit eighty one homers and to drive in one hundred ninety three RBI's which are both records that he will not break. But if this were mid-september, and he was on pace to maybe break, the all time home run record. And maybe break the all time RPI record. And he sat for a day. I think a lot of people would be really disappointed, and maybe we would be mad that we were having. History taking Romas, but probably more likely that would never happen. If it were mid-september, and he were on the in pursuit of the all time home run record. He wouldn't take a day off his manager wouldn't give it to him. So I'm just curious obviously, the odds of Christian yelich, breaking the all time home run record are extremely extremely low. But when does it kick in that a manager should not give him a days off, and I have three questions on this. That's the first of them. Well, I mean, I think a were in an era where miniatures are less likely than ever to care about that kind of thing. Now may be the all-time single-season home run record is still probably has more cachet than like a a no hitter or even a perfect game. Perhaps. So I think there would be more pressure on that kind of chase. But still I think we're at a time when teams just kind of put what's best for the team ahead of record chases. So. Whatever the date is is probably later than it used to be. But I think they're still a date and I'm gonna say like August first. Wow. Yeah. All right. So if he were on pace to hit seventy four at the all star break, and he got, you know, July eighth off then that that would not be to you. That wouldn't be weird. I don't think so. No, but close. All right. So August, I for home runs got it. All right. Byron Buxton is on pace. Currently as a hitter always is at this point in the year break all time doubles record. And he is also had a day off to win. Does the doubles record chicken does if he got the fourth the last day of the season off, and he was right on right on the line to hit sixty seven doubles with that be a big deal. I mean, the doubles records doesn't excite me very much. It doesn't have nearly the lesser of the home run record. So I'm going to say like, yeah. Like last week of the season less less second half of September. Although maybe if you're a playoff team, and you have your spot sealed up, and and you just. Wanna give guys arrest before the playoffs start? Then maybe you get a an exemption from this. But yeah, I'll say like soup timber fifteenth is when people might object to that. All right. And then last won the all time record for single season war at baseball. References fourteen point one might trout is again as he was last year. And as I think maybe at this point in the year before on pace to to be better than that. He's on pace for fourteen point three despite missing three games already. Which is crazy. Yeah. Think about that. For a second. He has missed more than ten percent of his team's games. We are more than what we're we're like almost a fifth of the way through the season. And he's still on pace despite that to have the all-time highest war just fun facts all around, but this is a slightly different question. So war is obviously a measure of value of total value. It is not a measure of how many home runs you hit. But of how valuable you are and. If a team decides to give might trout a day off for rest, they're doing that. Because they think that has had a maximize value on their team. They think that him having that rest will keep him fresher over the long haul will lessen his risk of injury will perhaps be good for getting another guy into the lineups. That guy doesn't get rusty. Obviously the decision that a manager makes to sit might trout is a rational one based on maximizing the value of the team's entire roster in the team's entire performance. So while giving Christian yelich a day off can only literally only keep him from from adding to his home runs a day off for my trout could be or theoretically in the manager's opinion is actually increasing his value in an abstract way. So should if might trout is in. Pursuit of the all time war record. Would it actually be hypocritical for me to complain about him getting a day off? Well, I mean, first of I guess you could make the case that Christian yelich would be more likely to hit two homers. Stay I don't think you wouldn't have obviously, obviously, the I think it's it's it would just absolutely shocked me if you could prove giving Christian yelich a day off increases his chances of breaking all time homeowners third than that. Yes. There's a little bit of a benefit and keeping afresh. But I would I just do not think that it it could possibly outlet, right? There have been studies on the effect of day off after a bunch of non days off. And there does seem to be some benefit there. But not so much that you would expect like an extra Homer. So right. I think I don't know. It'd be very curious to see how much people care about the single season record. Because of course, the single season where record changes which. Kind of an awkward fact, I wrote a little change again. Right. I wrote about that earlier this year wars is always changing which makes it hard to use as like a milestone chase kind of metric because of that. And also because like, you can't see it change necessarily like you can't you know, you know, when someone hits the record breaking Homer. But you don't necessarily know when someone does the record breaking war thing. It's like, oh that was a pretty good catch. Maybe that added of war and the way the reference does it to the defensive war is all whole numbers. And so you move out right from sixty -fensive run saved two seven one day. But even though you only shave. Yes. So right fan, graphs. I think just updates the the defensive where like every week or two or something. So when we're changes from day to day, it's not actually reflecting that -sarily. So yeah, that's the thing. And obviously, it doesn't have the history that these other metrics do. So I don't know that anyone would care. I mean, we would care I think we would be following it very closely. But I don't know if the larger media or fend them would care, but let's say they did I think if it kinda depends on like the idea that you are helping him in the long run. I think is kind of dependent on your being like a contending team or a playoff team right because if you're resting him. So that help better later it kind of only counts toward the playoffs writing. You have it than that. And that starts to get dicey. Then can you can you say that his a war record doesn't count? If you don't make the playoffs at all. Then do you start saying none of the value is real until you're in a playoff chase? I don't wanna go there. No. So and of course, we don't have wore for the playoffs, which you could make a case that we should have that too. So yeah, I think that if he sat late in a record chase of single-season war. I would still think that it hurts his chances of getting that single season record. Maybe it helps them in the playoffs. Maybe it even helps them later in his career somehow, but I have to think that taking day off if you're chasing a single season record almost always hurts even if you're talking about war. All right skimming, my third base first base article right down to see if I concluded. I think that I I was very as you would expect. I think for me, I was very clear that that this could be a blip and. I did I gave I gave. No, I gave a lot of. I did give a lot of space to the. It's just a blip argument. But I did my last paragraph begins is suggests we could be seeing a realignment around first base now suggests and could be and so those are both hedge words, but I did say it suggests we could be seeing a realignment. We might be seeing first base being pulled into the versatility era was what my theory was the basically the the what what was being identified as a trend around. The ages was is increasingly also being used at first base where you see a lot more guys from other positions using base as young flexibility. Actually, that's another Dave Cameron piece from January twenty seventeen. He wrote punting first base is the new black ends of. I don't know what happened in twenty seventeen to twenty eight what's happening this year. But I assume that his head. Up more or less. But yeah, I miss those Dave Cameron. He was the master of those. So I would end the episode except I teased that there was a question about catchers being propelled stood. All right. So this is from Erin he says just switched on rookie of the year on MLB network while waiting the few minutes before game of thrones shows up on each go. And it is on the scene of I believe Henry Rohan Gartner's first game anyway on multiple pitches. Closing out the game with a strikeout. Rhone garters fastball is so ferocious that it knocks over the catcher. I don't recall if the movie ever mentioned just how fast he can throw. It's been a long long time since I've seen this gem. But I'm wondering just how hard a pitcher would need to throw a ball to jibbidy knock over his catcher knowing fastball is coming in real life. So I sent this question we can be quibble with the aspects of the answer. But I sent this question to David Kagan who is physics professor at CS you Chico. And he writes about the physics of baseball often. The hardball ball. So a wanted his take on this question. So I'll read his response, and you can see if disagree with anything. He says how fast would have to travel to knock over professional catcher the ball would have to come in with a certain amount of youth the technical term for this is momentum to put a number on it. You would multiply the speed of the ball times the weight of the ball more carefully the mass of the ball. But let's not worry about that for now. So for a hundred mile per hour fastball. You multiply by the one third of a pound weight of the ball and get a momentum of about thirty three months. I don't think that's the technical unit. But we'll go with that. When the ball is cut. The momentum of the catcher changes by thirty three hoops, a momentum of this magnitude kit knock over a catcher, or at least I've never seen it happened. The reason is catcher weighs about two hundred pounds with gear that six hundred times as much as the ball. So when the of the ball is distributed over that weight, the resulting speed change is six hundred times less than the ball or one sixth of a mile per hour. This change in speed of the catcher, so. Oh, small that easily has time to adjust his body to absorb it. So now, we have a new question. How big a speed change can catch your handle without falling over this is a tough one as there's no data to rely on. Nevertheless, here's a way to look at it. People walk easily at five pounds per hour. Part of the reason they can do this is that they're capable of delicate balancing act when you walk you put one foot in front leaving the rest of your body out of balance and falling forward toward the ground. You would do a face plant, except for the fact that you're able to quickly get your back foot out in front to stop the fall the process repeats. And you're walking part of the reason there's a limit to human speed is connected with the maximum speed. You can get your back foot to become your front foot. If we assume that the maximum walking speed is five miles per hour for an upright person than the maximum walking speed of catcher in a crouch is certainly less than that. Let's us one mph we can use the previous idea to find out the speed of the ball needed to change the catcher speed by one mile per hour. Now, we have two hundred pound catcher who speeches by one mph the ball away six. Times less than the catcher. So the ball would have to be coming in six hundred times faster or at six hundred miles per hour. Not an exact answer. But at least we know that twelve year old kid can't knock over professional catcher, even movie with an unrealistic premise, so just watch it and have fun. And that's what I got to. Yeah. Exactly. All right perfect. I guess the other thing you could say is that maybe like if you're using a walking person as the example, that's an upright person whereas catchers crouching, so lower center amass. So maybe it's harder to propel that person. He's also prepared for this. And so maybe he can shift forward in a way that allows them to to take this momentum. But yes, six hundred miles per hour at that point obvious. You have a bigger problems because that would hurt even if you tried to catch it with a glove. All right. All right. That will do it wanted to stick one more answer in here at the end. This was a question from Michael who asked about one pitch outings and Sam actually entered at v. Email. So I will answer it via voice Michael says Roberto SUNA finished the Astros game earlier this season by throwing one pitch on the next day. Telecast, Mike Stanton speculated that he probably through a half dozen such games in his career that seemed absurdly high to me as I assume this feet would be quite rare given that bringing in a new pitcher with only one out needed is not common off the top of my head. I would think it only happens if a non save situation gets dicey. Or if you're maneuvering specific matchup against tough left handed hitter. I suppose if we expand the search to one pitch outings that didn't end the game a lube might have. Plenty of opportunities to log one pitch outing. How many such games did Stanton? Throw. What is the MLB record for such games? So I will answer the question of the MLB record for most games. This is of course, going back to nineteen eighty eight because we don't have pitch counts reliably before that the guy with the most one pitch outings at anytime is hover. Lopez the former Lougee he had thirty four such games. And then the next guys are Randy chote and. Jesse Roscoe at the top of the list, lots of Luque's here as when would expect. So these outings will not be seen very much anymore. We were talking about rules changes and the change about pitcher usage. This will be one casualty not a complete extinction, but close so the question about how many of these we've seen to end the game ten is the record of those Tony Fossas had ten and tied for second place with Mark -ception ski Dan police AC and Trevor Hoffman is Mike Stanton with six. So he estimated half a dozen and he was exactly right. The rare case where a player was perfectly accurate when recounting something from his own career. Thanks to the baseball reference play index and Sam for entering that one one other note just wanted to plug a piece written by my pal and friend of the show Steve Goldman, he wrote this for deadspin. It's called baseball's unwritten rules are the vestiges of drunken violent sport. Megan. I talk to Danny now Burr week ago about unwritten rules as they exist today, but Steve traces their origins all the way back to the nine. Eighteenth century, and he points out that in that era. Baseball was extremely violent and alcohol soaked, and that some of these rules may have evolved just to prevent actual fights. So there's a reason that they exist, but that doesn't mean they still need to exist. Because fortunately things have gotten less violent over the years. It's a fun informative piece though. So I will put it in the show notes. And I implore you to check it out. You can't support the podcast on patriots by going to patriot that com- slash effectively wild falling five listeners have already signed up and pledge some moment the meant to help keep podcast going Ryan buyer. Brandon Kyun Michael burger Matthew penny, and Cody Braun, thanks to all of you. You can join our Facebook group at Facebook dot com slash group. Session wild Angie can rate and review and subscribe to affect the wild on I tunes and other podcast platforms. 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"I'd welcome to fantasy focus baseball. It's a beautiful Thursday morning July, ninth, twenty twenty. He is Tristan each cockroach singer Song Slayer, myriad fantasy leagues, Kyle Safi Producers and researchers are fine show with expert customary aplomb I'm Eric Carbel? My hair is getting really really long and I love it. I gotTA. Tell you I love it. I am not cutting my hair. I played that crosby stills. Nash Song yesterday to my wife. You know almost cut my hair. It's getting Kinda long and she was like really. You'RE NOT GONNA. Cut Your. Your hair, no I'm not gonNA come a hair and Tristan. Your hair does not look like mine. It's growing in a different way, but you don't look like any different than normal I look different than normal and I love it and I'm not cutting my hair. Wait till my hair is fully dry and having been out in the humidity at four or five PM. It's quite a sight. I can run where you then look at this offer. Meaning is just like love, going out and his wings over my years i. Saw last night and like your grunting and Mike. The hair is flowing. It's it's it's so you're. You're getting complaints about that. I'm actually positive comments from the family. They want me to keep it this. Way I I'm not getting any complaints or like like I think they're surprised because I don't like this. I look like my college days. You know going back to the grunge nineties. Shaving my face every day. Like I don't like that feeling of like having a couple days of like stuggle shave every day, but. You know. I've been thinking about grow on that out, but yeah I. Shaved Today I. Don't know one of these days I'll let it grow. On today's show as our want Tristan Trivia that Eric will know the latest baseball news. Are we ever I mock draft to discuss? We have to more later today and as always your hashbrowns. Let's start with the news of the Day Tristan? I'm not seeing a whole lot i. don't WanNa. Keep talking about people. I haven't seen any notable opt-outs on took need to spend more and more than a second on Hector Noisy in terms of viruses I. Maybe Julio Toronto maybe doesn't I don't know There was a maximum hit by a pitch in their the dodgers versus dodgers game. He says he should be ready for opening. That's in two weeks, people. I don't think. Everyone's aware like this is not a normal spring training. The season is starting at Lea- scheduled to start two weeks from tonight. Yankees nationals Gary Cole Max Scherzer I can't wait I'll be watching and they're still in the back of my mind like I hope they play, but only if it save more players are speaking out. It's GonNa. Be Really interesting. The next two weeks Trista. And I think knowing it's two weeks away. My greatest concern is the difficulties that teams are having with testing and getting results at a speedy pace, because that's influencing some of the training. Kids were mentioned that the other day summer camp whatever we want to call it. And I do think that if that extends close to the regular season, it is going to have an impact on availability of players and yeah, that's going to have an impact on fantasy. My one suggestion is I would try to draft as close to the actual opening day as possible and if you can even do the. The historical roads tradition of having your draft in the first weekend after opening day, which means that? That twenty-fifth twenty-six weekend. We'll get all the information. We know WHO's available. WHO's opted out and everything? I'm having trouble taking this seriously I. I think that in the leagues that I have I just don't. I of course I WANNA win my leagues. Okay, whether industry, leagues or with buddies but I just can't take this seriously. The numbers are going to be ridiculous. They're gonNA. Be Small sample, size, theater, stuff and. I was talking to our friends Garner. USA Today. About this I want to win Labor of course, but I don't want this to be the only time labor you know, there'll be an astronaut necessarily. It's not a real season. I don't want to spend money on it I. WanNa play and have fun I. Want to enjoy this this sixty games sprint, but I don't WanNa. Take it too seriously. That's all a champ champ the. The asterisk is not placed their formerly. You gotTA. Keep that in mind and you know the best positive to say for this year is that it is a fantastic opportunity to experiment with new things. Try New League. Try New formats. Just get creative. Try Strategies. I understand you're saying there's an asterisk there, but you know there are a lot of challenges for this year that you warrant credit for if you can win your lake. It's not like I'm putting the Astros as I feel. The people are gonNA. Look at it differently, so I WANNA win. One it over six months season two news news at a day. Your Yankees Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton are expected to be ready for opening day. They might have a soft tissue injury in that game and missed the next three weeks after that, but they're ready to play on opening day I. I want I don't mean to be negative, but like come on with these guys what else calls Martinez might end up in the cardinals bullpen I was just reading about how Ryan Housley could be the film closer because Agresson might not be able to get into the country. The so many things going on that are going to affect playing time and fantasy that it's just it's not even just the virus. Or injuries. It's also somebody's guys can't even get into. The country is pregnant wives, and it's this and that's like it's unbelievable. How many factors are into play here? On my saw at the Red Sox are gonNA. Lead. Benintendi I think we expected that. Does that make you WANNA. move him up on your rankings or not. Really or whatever I don't know. He's not really a power guy. Not Really, it doesn't have much of an impact I, mean he? He was so disappointing last year. I think people are already pushing him down the draft frank says. I'm not inclined to draft him any sooner or move them up in the ranks, but I mean certainly he's more valuable batting leadoff any he is six or seven. We will that Oh without question. Go score more runs. Maybe still basement to the orioles have put Ryan Mount Castle on their sixty man. I don't know why wasn't on the initial one 'cause. It made news that he wasn't and maybe that's the only reason they did this I still think he's not going to play for the team this season so right. You agree with that. They're kind of telling us that. Kind of by keeping them off. That was one of the one of the players who I was most surprised not to see on the initial sixty. However very few teams filled the sixty or even came close to it in the initial set, so I wonder whether teams are trying to make the critical decisions as to WHO's actually going to contribute for them when they make these final calls. I think there is a chance we see Mount, but to your point, the Orioles are not a competitive team. Why start the service clock? But then at the same time you know if you keep them in the off the main the major league roster for a week. You've bought that extra year anyway. I could go either way at castle playing this year. I don't think a lot of these teams have sixty legitimate players to put on that list. That's part of the problem anyway, I. GotTa Water Rodriguez Regan's also test positive for the virus so we should probably assume we're not gonNA see them in the first week or two of the season that news down the rankings. Unfortunately, it's about a playing time. Issue is not about a bias for the buyers is about a Freddy Freeman, not playing the first two weeks. That's a significant part of the season. You gotta move down and I was interested to see where Freeman Webinar. Mock draft we do. They are first. Monograph was on phone Wednesday and it was what a head to head Rodeo or just Rodeo. You remember was no, it was simply row. Today is the head to head points, and they head to head. Categories were right, and we can discuss that on Monday if we want suspect that all three marks are going to kind of be the same and my take I wrote about this in a blog entry. That's up today, but I I was a little surprised people weren't we were downgrading the players that were the have the virus. Some the Greek because we have to 'cause. They're going to miss some playing time, but. The mock pre normal to me in told the last couple of rounds, where some of the prospects ran, and I took us mayor petite and drew pomeranz, but in a general sense, not a whole lot changed right I mean did. What was your take on yesterday's mark. Not a whole lot changed as he said. I think we're frankly a group over correcting on players with questions. Do we really know enough to determine how much time they might miss if any? I'm just not prepared to make those judgments. This is why I want to wait as long as possible. We're drafting with the information we have and I think there's too much paranoia that comes into. Eric you've mentioned the classic Jason Jason Schmitt. Example we've thrown Carlos Delgado in the past where there was a question about availability on opening day, and the player came back awfully rapidly I. Know in a sixty game. Season of a player misses five games. That's GonNa have a dramatic impact. It's the equivalent of missing. What would that be eight point something games I think I'm trying to do the math quickly in my head. I fifteen games. It's the equivalent of a lot more I. This is the thing Freddy Freeman was in the third round and I think he went. Pick right before mine I absolutely would have welcomed to my team in the third round. I I'm just not prepared to move him down in my rankings yet. He went forth because I had the turn four five in round, four or five of the last pick around forty went like right before. I was GONNA take him I had the turnaround to three, and I didn't consider him. I took Bryce Harper Nathan Ran. Don't whereas in a normal circumstance. I would take Freeman over harper in Dome but there. I did not because I expect. He's going to miss some time, but you're right. It's all a guess I have no idea you'll be fatigued it even after returns me. This won't matter at all. He'll be fine by tomorrow. I don't know which is why like. I tell you what I'm telling. People what I wrote about today's. Do several mock drafts to find out what you're comfortable with. Are you comfortable taking Freddy Freeman over Anthony Ren d-o-n, whereas if all things were equal, and everybody was healthy, you would not have. It's up to each individual drafter to decide what he is comfortable with. What kind of statistics you wants to get all the staff. Look the same to me. All heading stats were the same all the pitching staffs for starters. Everybody nothing wrong with the projections is just all the top selling vigils or projected for like five wins. How can you? Can you know for sure? The projections I think are the least relevant this year, and that's not to throw away a set of projections. You need them in order to formulate dollar values and rankings, but they are typically conservative. That's the way the projections are built, and you're going to need to take chances this year and our own projections grow Todd Zola made an outstanding point about this that if you're in a draft room, and you see a player projected for twelve home runs in another one project for eleven, it could be that one. One with twelve had eleven point five one home runs, and the projections, and the one with eleven at eleven point four nine, and there were effectively the same player, but what you're gonNA. Do is give homerun more to that other guy because you rounded it and that's going to be like three dollars difference at the auction table, so let yourself get creative this year I am not going to be attached to my values, I'm not going to be attached to my rankings, and I'm going to take some chances. Research angry. Are you angry? Your yelling. I'm fired up I. Think you've made this point to that. We should be prepared to take some chances this year. Seem a little angry. I lucky to be less. It's okay all right all right? Did you watch Hamilton yet? Why don't you go watch? Hamilton after the show absolutely loved Hamilton. The did a great job. You know all the scenes cutting and editing and everything I thought they did a fantastic job. I love to see it live now. that I'm infatuated with the King of England. I gotTa tell you. I can has SARS. Oh, having heard that on the soundtrack compared to watching it on screen, the dramatic difference between the two Oh that he that his great. is fantastic. Fantastic, lin-manuel, everybody I mean helpless like the whole show is fantastic I. gotta ask. You may not like this question, but what's IT GONNA? Take for you to move trat out of the number one spot in your rankings, because not only do I think he's not deserving of the number one spot because of the different system basis Galata Kunia, but he's. He's going to miss some time Tristan. It might only be three or four days because his wife is going to give birth, but he also might come out tomorrow and say he doesn't play at all. Obviously you would move. Nothing bought then, but a you just gonNA stubbornly. Leave him number one even knowing that he's missing a maybe a week of time. Maybe he misses a week of time I do think the potential absence is a problem. If he decides to sit out then I think the league is a whole is going to have an issue so I'm not prepared to move them out of that I think he's the right call at number one I think in a shorter year, the potential for absences that are shown by. By his past. What is it three or four years are a little bit overblown and look any of the others could miss time Yelich. Miss some time last year. That's entirely a possibility I have no issue with yellowish being number one there I. DO actually have an issue with Ronaldo Kunia being the number one pick overall just because I've raised the batting average concerns before. You. Think there's a chance to forty. It's A. It's a very slim chance, but I'd say it's more like sixty five to seventy s what I'm worried. To Sixty I'll say this about the stolen base tango in a six month season, yellen, stealing thirty thirty five basis and trout, stealing ten is a big deal in a two months season in Yelich entr annacone. You're stealing Tan and trout. Six is not a big deal. I agree with you there but I think there's you can't tell me that. There's not more risk of trout missing time. We already know he's going to Miss A. You know he's missy. More. Give me the number you're saying. How many how many days are you? Ready Mrs. Misses six to seven games then I do. I think that matters I don't. Okay. I think he. Days I just look I've been asked already about whether a moving trout other number one spot out of concerns that maybe he'll sit out and again. Has a problem if he sits out, I think we need to prepare based on the I think he wants to play. I think he's going to give every effort to play if he possibly can these considering what he needs to himself, I still think he's the best player in baseball. I think he's the best player in baseball I think in fantasy. Is Cloud a little bit anyway? You're the third overall pick and you were happy to get trout. There I took yellowish number one Our friend Kyle took a pair of rockies. No one hour Nado and Trevor Stuart Story with elastic around one I pick around two. That's something you don't see very much too. Rocky hitters at turn. and I thought that was a good move by him, but it's interesting like. Tristan in two months season did do that. Though because there are a few weeks where the rockies are home all week noted that in your tweets. Maybe we'll article but call your back on with now. Did you have concerns? They were taking to rockies. Hitters 'cause there were. They have a week of road games. You'RE NOT GONNA. Get what you're what? I'm not too worried about the schedule. is kind of what it is thought. Paired teammates at three and four. The turn there to I. WanNa Count on Fewer club houses by the fewer moving pieces as far as. Trying to avoid Kovic to like the healthiest teams are going to win this year. It's going to be a volume game. It just as I chased should I with my pitching, so I might thinking there was that if it's close that I've got a stack potential this way. I land to keep the rockies healthy as opposed to needing the rockies in the braves or something like that. It was a tiebreaker wasn't intentional coming in and I, didn't really think about until I was on the clock and saw guy staring at me, but I'll take my chances are. If I can roll the dice and be healthier as opposed to. The road home splits like take my chances. I mean it's an interesting thing they are now. We know which players are less durable than others for injuries, but we have no idea who's going to get the virus so to me. That's just total guesswork. but Tristan talk about your team here a little bit were you thinking of a starting pitchers or or top twenty starting pitchers I I see you got Strasbourg in round three, but a general sense you went offense I went offense with. With my first eleven picks except for the round four around five turn when I took Patrick Corbett and Troy, Ward because I thought they were a lot better than the next pitchers off the board. Remember when you pick at the turn, you don't pick again for twenty three picks, so I want to take a chance on who would be left, but then I saw a lot too good starting pitching in the middle. Rounds Lance Lynn I. Think is maybe you don't but your thoughts overall on mock. I did fade pitching I. Did want to go with that modified lebane- that I suggested. which is you take an ace very early? In this case I was not leaning out where I take him as my first pick, and then take no ping. Until the end. I wanted to get one anchor my name actually when I took Strasbourg in the third round was I was hoping that he would get taken by one of the guys at the turn. Jack Flaherty who I could capitalize upon those central divisions, those schedules in the Central Division are considerably more favorable for pitchers than what Strasberg's going to face in the eastern divisions, so that was a problem, but he was a guy who I felt was head and shoulders above the next here pitchers I looked at it as seven seven or so starting pitchers were the ones I wanted I wanted to get in that group within the first three rounds. Then wait awhile. I think my next starting pitcher. Max Freed and I wanted to lean a lot on what we discussed the other day, which was the multi inning relievers guys pick up some of those. Sneaky winds and kind of saves that they steal from the typical closers. Yeah, I, think later on the draft for the same idea I went. Use Maher petite and drew POMERANZ. You went Seth Lugo and the dodger kid dusted May so we're thinking guys who could get some cheap winds and give them innings, but not necessarily saves. They're not closer you do. Have Joe Him in as on your team? and I have some bad closers as well of course there tyler chat with. It and I saw I read today. The County Kale who I took him around twenty isn't even with the pirates, and for all we know he may not end up with the buyers again. Giovanni Guy Iago's went around twenty. He may not end up with the cardinals. Even pitch issue they. It's all guesswork, so that's the main. The main takeaway from a mock draft is kind of like well. No, it's not take away from a mock from a real graph is e prepared. Prepared and we're going to get to this on every show before the season starts to overturn your roster a week into the season a day into the season when something changes, if curb curb, as is not going to lose the closer role if he if he blows up on opening day, but Hector Narus Carlos Martinez I could name fifteen closers that they pick badly in the first week of the season. They are losing the job to somebody else so beep. That's why. That's why I liked. Make sure I get at least one good closer, and then be willing during the season to mess around with every name, his Ryan Housing might not getting ten saves. I don't know, but it does speak to your point about getting a rock hater. chat middle wanted hated. Grafton Joe I think it was joke Eiser. Who took him in the round? I was going to take them off. That was a good pick. Well, I mean of course Josh. Picked question is how early are you willing to go? He went in the middle of around six. I think that's fair. Basically pick that round. I thought it was a good value. You ended up with him as that round. So when all the projections look the same. Have you account for stolen bases. Did you WANNA Golic? Malik Smith or do you want just like a Mike? Stolen? Bases are tied up with Yelich Jr. Tommy Fan deal mayhew. I don't have a guy who's going to lead the league necessarily, but I've got a couple of guys who were going to do it. Did you think about garlic, Malik, Smith or like with your last Billy Hamilton or no, no I actually Hamilton's and other guys not with his team right now, so that's another role question in mind and Smith's case I felt that he was left out there far too long, and frankly I just didn't want to give a gift of stolen basis to any of my opponents I felt like. On a team that went more heavily for power. I did not get a lot of the power speed Combo guys in the early rounds. I needed to make sure I had some stability late so that I could throw a guy in there. Maybe it's on other players days off. Maybe he just ends up being my fifth outfielder, but what was he a one, hundred and eighty fifth or so overall around nineteen and my thought when you did it was. How can you win home runs? You can't have any on homer's Martinez every team as a ton of every team does. You basically just gave up a player. WHO'S NOT GONNA. have any home runs runs batted in? He's a bench guy for me. Team's got lots of homers. I was projected I think one of the top three or four in that category. Maybe, it'll work out I. What I'm not at this I I've heard my batting average in the pursuit of home runs and the early rounds so though that's going to be an issue. I took out of meeting around the time you took Alex Smith and my thinking there was i. don't WanNa. One Category Guy like Smith Enes, not going to steal as many bases, but he should for average score plenty of runs. Maybe hit you know. Six seven home runs something like that i. mean like he contribute across the board I just I'm not interested in guys like Alex Smith and he might be a really nice guy, but it has nothing to do with that is fantasy and I. I. You know all he does is still basis. Okay, so let me ask you this from a strategic standpoint. Do you have concerns especially in a row league falling inescapably behind in say the first twenty games of the season. Does it not benefit you to in the later rounds? Get guys who can bolster one category at a very low cost. I see your point, but the problem with it is if you've got Alex and another guy doesn't hit for power, YOU'RE GONNA fall behind in power, so I would almost just punt stolen bases at that point I'd be willing to plant stolen bases and saves two categories. I'm willing to punt especially in a season like this. Because to me. You can put the category of stole basis, and in the final two or three weeks. Maybe move up a couple spots because everybody got thirty sales. I think those are like. Piccadilly Hamilton in mid. September and you almost move up two spots right. Then I actually also think the drawback for me. Is that now over projected for stolen basis by having Smith my roster the trademark? It isn't going to be as good as I thought trading from Alex Smith Right. No, I think somebody else will absolutely want to trade from Alex Smith, but I will not get. Get a return that I desire. I'm not going to get something useful I. Think you're going to be able to fill steals on the trademark it at a reasonable price. I don't know why anyone on the World Trade for steals when there's GonNa. Be Guys out there like Hamilton Terron score Roman Quinn that can steal your few basis. They may not do it with the you know. The same level of mouse miss. They're going to be prolific, but they're gonNA steal some. Surprise you Roman Quincy as many basis Malik Smith was getting drafted and one's not. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Actually I think Quinn is one of the better values I also think Straw. The Astros could be one of the better values absolute. There's going to be a Rodeo just the road, not head to head the Rodeo Leagues where you come down to September. Fifteenth and there's five stolen bases. And eighth place and you're the eighth-place team. If you get Smith, you could jump ahead and that might make the difference in your league. That's what I'm thinking here, but I don't think I'm going to get a great return on the trademark and I think you'll be able to trade for steals me overall strategy for the the mock yesterday. A ten team Rowley overall strategy attempt to punt. Starting pitching, but don't go overboard. Try to anchor it with an ace, and then from that point punt gopher only values gopher for K. getting middle relief, pitchers or closers get a Lotta case out of your relievers maximize daily transactions in Espn Leagues Beyond that I was going value at the hitting side, and I wanted to go heavily on hitters I. Think we need to get guys who are locked in regular players I think it's going to be tougher to fill homers RBI runs scored. Scored on the free agent list during the year I to that's why you need to get a lot of offense early on I think in a ten team league were racing picks by taking guys like the May and use mirror petite, because he's going to be guys just like them on free agency, but there's not going to be power best the issue. I don't think he's going to be great power on free agency I'm. How is your strategy to change in the mocks today that? That head to head league the road ahead, so it's not gonNA. Change a lot in the head-to-head Rodeo. I might go a little bit more on the extremes I kind of like kyle's. We just discussed Kyle's rocky strategy. I like the idea that he is embracing the volatility that if things go wrong, he's done anyway, but if things go right in east projected the right team that he will be immensely successful i. like the idea of doing that where you can for me, it wouldn't. Wouldn't necessarily be team stacks, but it would be chasing guys who have a great amount of upside. That's why for the most part in this have a younger roster I'll probably go with a very similar strategy in the points draft. I'm going to give it away here. I'm going to do the mass thing and I'm going to be drafting relief, pitchers and closers, because in points, leagues, streaming, streaming streaming, and by the way also streaming again once you've finished up your streaming for the week. So is Joshua going around three of this mock draft yup probably. If not fourth. It's a great pick in that round. By fourth round, he'd be a steel. Let's get your Trivia, please. Trivia question that nobody will know if you WANNA. Sing it go ahead. That, no one will new. People is using his hands in such a way like jazz when he sings that saw. Why are you doing now? That part of the deal absolutely come on, you gotta get into it, and besides he said I was angry. This is me showing that I'm happy and calm. You're going through all the emotions on today's show. I want to remind people we are. Are Social distancing were in three different states and apparently three different states of mind. Okay, what's the question I know but I left my baseball mask upstairs. I should've worn it to be extra social distance. You might not hear me through it all right so I'm combining some of the themes that we've come up with in the past actually Monday's show. Taking only the first sixty games of team schedules as well as the final sixty games of team schedules. In the past decade, three pitchers won eleven games during these time spans eleven wins. Is the record set by any pitcher in the past decade in their teams, I sixty or final sixty games of the season I would like it and aimed at three pitchers. I will give you this. They all have appeared in spring training, either in the beginning or current part of the year, and they are all under contract to a major league organization, currently so active players all three. They won eleven games in either the first sixty or final sixty of any of their team's games of the past decade. Leaves Out Kris. MEDLEN I about, but that's a good example of going for the extremes here. Jake Arrieta Jake Arrieta is definitely one of them. He did in the final sixty of two thousand fifteen, and I gotta give you guys this over one hundred and sixty two team game span from July first of two thousand, fifteen through July, first twenty sixteen, he won twenty seven games had a one forty two area and old EIBNET. Yeah. He GonNa. Do that this season. I don't know I mean he might up starting opening day and he's not I'm hoping he pitches well I. Don't think the Phillies are contenders this year and the scheduled only part of it. The bullpens part of it as well I. I didn't Phillies we're. GonNa lose more games than they win. The Yankees are going to be fine. Your team is what the Cardinals Kyle. They should be fine. They have a deep team. I play in the Central Division. Get Kansas Ready. In Troy, and you know you run into Charrette a few times. How will they overcome this? Insured season, Eric. You're talking two or three losses right there, Kyle. I gotTa tell. Ya Chat with is not one of the answers to this question. Sorry, it was going to get him, and I was thinking of like. See still signed somewhere, but added CC retired. and. Like. Justin Berliner did it in the Final Sixty Games of twenty eleven he did win eleven games in that span, so that's two to three, and the three is the challenging one. Well I. This is such a random thing like you know like this is ramp. That's how view stuff like this so. It's remembering the great runs of pitchers, and it's to highlight chasing great runs of pitchers. I think we're GONNA. See some cases like that this year, and you need to look for this guy by the way is currently under contract to the team in which he did the streak for. so it's obviously not the a need that we would. Like, think about. It? A good one for because there are a lot of people will remember this happening. We've also mentioned the team on the show specifically by name on the so far. I. We mentioned the name of the. Remember the rockies. It's not a rocky I. I'm quite certain that right I mean you can't be a rocky. You'd have to I mean we didn't mention solid today? It's not another COBB, not Jose. Can Tana mean how Hendrix? No I did. This is ridiculous in some ways I would smith. You're on the right track in the first place, but so dismiss the dismissive of this team are the. Iraqi! It can't be Iraqi. It is a rocky. He is currently under contract to the ROCKIES. He did this. As Iraqi is Dalton on the rain Rockies Cam Baldo Jimenez won eleven games in the first six games of two thousand ten, he was eleven and one with an ninety three era in an old ninety two whip. During that span, he won thirteen of his first fourteen games. The bigger surprise to me is that he's actually in someone's camp. They they farmed them off the sixty man player pool, but I was watching the game i. don't know last week the week before in which he was thrown out there to lose the game in the wildcard game. Because the manager who everybody thinks he's a genius didn't use Zach Britton not genius. People and Baldo lost that game predictably I didn't realize he was someone's camp, but. Keycard so following up on that question. Who Do you think off? The beaten path is most likely to do something like that this year because I mean, you could name guys like calling the ground, but me another name or two. Navy. This is a column idea for somebody. What are you wouldn't think about who is not winning eleven games, and not only making eleven starts, but some. Maybe they could could somebody. Could oriented the dodgers when all eleven of his starts this season. Yes something like that could happen he could I think it's going to be tough from the volume angle. Because as we've said, there's going to be limited innings of the first couple of starts I think we're aiming at a brilliant run of nine wins. For example Luke Weaver was one of the guys who I thought went at a great rate, and I wanted to get in the mock draft. What are you seeing there that I'm not saying we've had? Had A great finish last year, and the skills were very low risk now granted. That's not a great upside guy, but I very much like what he did in the rebound. Last year, we went to go with rockies. Her Mom, Marquez and John Gray do have the ability to do this Garrett Richards was one who I was looking at in the mocks couple of the young Astros if we can get them in there, throwing getting up to the full workload, Jose or Kitty and Jesse James. We've talked about. Had another couple of those young Oakland pitcher Shawmut naive Franken montages. By the way the you and I have talked Austin off of the nationals. He's going to be their fifth starter with Joe, roff sitting out the year that does enhance his his role on the team might say. They are got bought for a dollar and labor and L. I'm pretty good about that. Although I'm not feeling good about any of this to be honest, I don't think they should be plank, but like the teams that I drafted back in March. I looked at a couple of them. They look fine. I refuse to say Oh. They look better now because of changes to the DA or because of people opting out, because for all I know that there could get sick, too, so I just WanNa have fun enjoying baseball. Watching my fantasy teams react I'll drop if awesome bath gets litmus I story out dropping for somebody else. Who Does it you know if if it's the right Lou you're projecting ahead not behind, but you know Spencer. Howard's available in league in the Phillies, bringing them up on day eight. Right after the you know first week because. They get the extra season the short. I'm all in on our just like I am Neat Pearson Mackenzie. Gore. They went. They all went in. Yesterday's mock. They're gonNA. Go in. Today's mocks as well. It's just either mocks. We're not playing out. I'm going to do a lot of things differently. Today's mocks I'll tell you that, and so I give away my strategy. What's yours? Come on Gimme? GimMe the goods. The starting pitching I wanted to get a couple of top starters in the top fifteen. I did, but then there were still more starters in the middle rounds that I liked either other people didn't like them so I was like why. Why did I take Charlie? Morton around six. If I could've taken Nelson, Cruz I'll do that from now on. is to I wanted to build a pitching staff, not like I did with like so we have nine active pitchers at all. My guys were pitchers I. have like eight starting pitchers I. Don't want that I wanted like five starting pitchers in five closers slash petite. You Know Seth. Lugo types I didn't do that and the reason I didn't do that. Is because the too starting pitchers available and I'd filled up most of my hitting spots. So I might take a catcher earlier today I wait to the last round yesterday we might. Catcher before the last round. What time might do that? I might do that because I. Think I can get. pitchers are one the last round. There were plenty of pictures that I want. Whereas my catcher. I, don't even remember. Go I got, but I might be more likely now to actually take a real muto or not. Gary Sanchez, but I ended up with Salvador Perez in last round. Am I okay with it? Assuming he's Okay Compla-? Yeah, I can stream. The physician is going to be plenty of customers that are all the same in a six six weeks eight eight week season. I don't know I'm going to definitely get another closer that I. Like I did not do that. My second closer third clothes or not guys like a rely on so that's something I'll do differently. Also pay attention to. The draft you know like it might force you to put a player at a position. You don't WanNa put him at. That's something to think about as well you know so. Like I draft account, Kale Mark Melanson near my second and third closers after I think the twins guy. I'm not comfortable with that so I'm GONNA. Take another closer to earlier. But that was twenty all right. We're done with talking. Let's get Kyle in here and ask some house browns and finish it up. Got Few coming in today through twitter and Kyle Soppe the ESPN youth your questions before the podcast and I'll do the best to get the experts to answer them. Handsome wants to know if you drop vital for Middle Reliever, like Petit orbit answers, he sipping the reliever kool-aid that you guys have been selling earlier this season. I think the reason why wouldn't do that because you're going to be able to get those guys on free agency or somebody like that that we haven't discussed yet. Is Fairly you know for all? We know there's somebody that we haven't even. For All we know, we know there's going to be pitchers on teams that we haven't talked about. We're going to fill the same role as petite and seth. Lugo and pomerance, so wouldn't you keep auto under the Divisive Bench Guy I move on, but I wouldn't move onto a middle reliever I I dropped bought for Neat Pearson. I drove Dylan Carlson. or not want to Frankel, he won't be up right away, but I would I would drop vodka if he's on your bench for a prospect, who after a week will win a job and be good? That's what I would do. I think you said that on here I. Think Roster Construction. Really answer this question. I don't have an issue with it. If that's what you're roster needs right now, but I have no idea whether Avodados a starting player you needed for batting average or runs scored stability I would. I would also agree at rather have the upside I'd rather let a player like that goal and take a take a chance on somebody who's got a higher ceiling or one of the X. factor guys because I I have articles. Coming out I? Don't win. Actually Monday Tuesday maybe on X. factor hitters x-factor pitchers. Draft CESSPIT is over votto. Absolutely I can't tell you. It's going to be better, but I can tell you who has more upside. Okay, that's for sure and when I figured out who the same thing you're. You're making a funny face. You don't agree with that. I'm tr- I'm trying to chew on. Versus Fato. I mean. Would you I think I agree with you on the ceiling, being potentially higher for cesspits, but there's soul much. Risk there the so as bag is, but so, what I'm going to be dropping half team after a week, so it doesn't matter I've see I like embracing letting a player go the and the ability to let a player go if something goes wrong and then replace them and I feel like. It's going to stick on your team and you're going to feel like. The name locks them into your roster i. I drafted Chris Walker in that mock yesterday. If he's hitting one forty after two weeks, I just move onto other first baseman. I took a Bernado Nunez I think there's no point in the first ten rounds. Maybe those guys keep for awhile. But if Christie walkers are starting first baseman corner guy, you gotta run. Eighteen doesn't matter when you got him if he's not hitting after two weeks, absolutely void ear. You come I'm thinking more like the tenth to Fifteenth Round Guys. I mean you mentioned? Atom Eden as the first guy who comes to mind if eaten struggles based on what you're paying to get him. I think most people are going to be afraid to. To. Let them go I think this year. You're going to need to be prepared to let those players go. That's why I would rather take. Those chances in those rounds and got them is irrelevant. As soon as that draft at easy for UNICEF say, it's not easy for a casual player to say it should be for everybody to say. I don't understand what the problem is. Why would you keep Chris Walker because you invested a fifteenth round picking it get, somebody could help you win. That's different. In the fifteenth round. People are GonNa have a hard time with the Eighth Ninth Tenth Round Pick. They invested a good amount in who struggles mightily for two weeks. Goes on the DL after his first adding and it's at least three weeks. Don't you drop them? That's that's an I. L. Situation. That's completely different. ESPN wigs three bench spots. I believe we added an extra l spot though. I mean you can make the decision later. Look I, think it's different for an aisle versus the guy always comes to mind for me as Pat Burrow before we knew Pat Burrow career was not going to be what it was. There was a year where Pat Burrow was considered an early round pick, and he was positively dreadful in April and the beginning of May. How long do you? You hold onto them then Mike Lowell had a season like that. How about that carpenter? Last year held on June? That's what I needed. separable year got better right, but in a year like this. You need to be more prepared to move on from the player. There's nothing wrong with doing that in a short and season I would cut back carpenter eight days into the season this year. One time, but he's not. He's not drafted anywhere near where he was in the year, he struggled nowhere even close. We're talking probably two hundred spots in the draft different. I don't think that matters. Yes, I understand your point. It's dumped to me. I don't care what I'm not dropping endure, but I don't care what round drafted this player. If he's playing poorly and is only six weeks left in season, I'm moving on. I just want you to lean on this answer because I think it's the right one. Keep keep saying the right thing here. Not. Only the you. Get it. Sean wants to know you mentioned. Starting pitching was kind of like the quarterback somme. You're comfortable in waiting events the case what position are the running back to the baseball world? We need to address early. They're not I don't see that, comp. because. I can wait in attend team football league for quarterback. I'm doing this fishbowl league and I have three quarterbacks in the first eight six. It's not even close to the same but that's not what starting pitchers because I still want to get a good one early top fifteen guy or to. The differences the middle. The middle rounds. What would we compare quarterback? I think closer would be like quarterback, right? New can wait there. That's a different reason for it. Though that's that's strategic, I mean quarterback is just a load of position. Now. Catcher is the exact opposite of quarterbacks in football. There's nothing catcher. Tight end. I'm waiting to the last round of a ten team football draft. My quarterback angel last ran of attempting baseball draft Mike Catcher. What's the difference? Darren Waller has. Has Some some? Complaints for you, Kyle sure I- tight. End is a little offended as a whole right now for to be compared at your and fantasy baseball gotta top the top tier, but I get the question I get the the crux of the crash near who are the running backs? What position need to after the quarterback Ron? How're it's not a? It's not a position. It's power to statistic. Home runs. RBI runs scored. Power is running backs now. Power quarterbacks HOMERUN HIS Co. this tons of power. But. You're not waiting on it. You're waiting at quarterback. You're not taking your quarterback in round one two three. That's that's why I'm saying. There is no particular spot that comps great across the two sports that were awkward, but homerun unique so much power in order to compete in your league, but joining one quarterback eras there in around eleven so the same. Flex, maybe it's not running back is running backs and wide receivers corresponds to power Leonardo saying. This this thing if you're trying to come power to running back, then drafting Joey Gallo in the fourth round and I know you're not doing that. Our that doesn't come with a batting average anchor. I'm taking you radio soir around five. That's the difference. I'm not taking a quarterback in round five. Wouldn't running back, so the baseball world be the homer steal Combo guys. But that's not what you said. I said power, versus for running back. I think sure guys can do both stalling morte absolutely. Not, Even available around three of football draft that that's round one. We wish probably just move from the question. It's just not a natural comp. My thought announced COMP. That sterling more take was Damian Williams and I don't think I'm comfortable with. Statistically that that's what that means you're you're now. You understand you're not placing premium on the power. Of the guys who are whose value is driven by power. Believe me I've watched you address. You're not taking gallows and reese hoskins and. But hurry so layer can't be derrick henry because Derek is going with pick twelve and he's going to pick seventy. Has. Just couldn't match up. I I like the general view affords us a power speed you on early I agree with that. Ad Wants to know He. You're bringing one player out of retirement for sprint of a season of two thousand twenty. Who is it? If I knew that he would play every day, I would drift each row in round fifteen. You're your. He's forty forty five years old. He could bat four hundred. He could steal the most base in the league. He could lead off even for a bad team score a a per game. Each, you're right now. Right now could lead off for Seattle and be top. Thirty outfielder Eric. Seattle has some things to say to you about that. Cotton he was awful as final five years I love each row. I loved what his career was I hall of Famer Just. A genuinely fun player to watch, but let's face it. What was his final batting average? In the last five years of painful hitter, he was, he was a to sixty two, hitting regular for the twenty thirteen Yankees as a thirty nine year old. Are you giving me some. Bottle away. He's still planning somebody. Is News actually retired? They feel like they've retired counts. Oh, Gosh, you know the only one I'd say is still play a premium level. If you take them out of retirement as Marian, Rivera that pitch can play. I'll Betcha Rivera pitch at a high level it after being a relief pitcher couldn't be hitter at this point. Among the recent hitter retirees, though do you think David Ortiz could still play? Probably as a D. H.. He was at a pretty high level. He could put up Kole. Calhoun numbers right now, right? Tell me. We're wouldn't hit for power now. Zola has words for you. Sure he does. For everybody I work with does. It's a good question. It's a fun question. You're right. Each each rose last year as a real star with Miami. To Ninety one. Ten steals. That's not enough. But man in his prime, he was a monster. I gotta think of other players who retired recently. You know like the thing like. I don't know. Somebody, who retired kind of in the middle of their prime? That's the David Ortiz and Marian Rivera based on the age still. Spoken like a true Yankees. Fan I guess that's about it The time is running out on our show for today any final thoughts. Not, anymore weekends the draft I mean I've got a league grafting not this weekend, but next weekend. I can't say I'm real excited about it because I just have no idea what I'm doing these drafts. There's no rulebook for this. There's no guidelines for how to draft right now. For a six game season, in which literally anybody you draft could get the virus tomorrow and miss two weeks four weeks every week. There's no guarantees. This isn't like drafting. Aaron Rodgers San who get hurt all the time. This is like anybody can have this virus I don't Wanna I don't if I draft Freeman or kingery of 'cause I. Don't know how many. How much time we're GONNA. Miss what the virus I don't know what I should do with trout and Zach Wheeler, their wives having babies, they could miss three days. They could miss ten days naked Sudan awhile. They could sit all out. You're right. Trout sits out I. Don't know why we're playing, but. I, just hope everybody stays healthy, and it's not just star players man. It's like Jake Diekmann. Who has all sort of Colitis I you know like man I understand why needs to play needs money? But it's just career. I just prayed at these guys do not get a virus. And frankly, in this case a lot of the reason, we don't have information that respect the privacy of the individual players. I mean that's. That's part of this whole system. I've got four drafts that are all schedule within a week of when the new schedule opening days, and I'm glad they're that late, but even then I. There's GonNa be some question marks and a Lotta Guesswork, and that's just the way this year is just embrace it best account. That is for today for our show for today. We're also short. Distance were all wearing masks where we go out fantasy focus baseball. For Thursday July ninth is a wrap. Thank you so much. The treatment to Kyle I am Eric have an awesome and safe weekend. 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