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The Doug Collins Podcast
Matthew Charles and Doug Discuss the Power of the Bible
"Apart from anything else, I can't tell you 'cause, you know, you know, well about me that I'm a rhyme minister, pastor for over 11 years, still an air force chaplain. And I can't tell you how many times I have heard a story that began with, I read, I found a Gideon Bible. Oh, yes, sir. I mean, it is amazing. And I hear so many times, you know, the gideons who do such a great work, you know, they used to and again, I think we've lost so much in our society when they can't hand out voluntarily handout scripture to 5th writers. Remember that? And but it's interesting. In list explore this because this is a podcast where look, people know that I'm my faith and they're going to hear about faith and they want to call me and email me. I'll talk to them about it. But talk about that for a second. It ended up on a side note here. The power of the bi, just the Bible. You didn't have it, you didn't have Billy Graham sitting in the room with you. I mean, you had a Bible. And that was it, correct? Yes, sir. And the product part of it is I've never even seen the guy that gave it to me with one or him even open it up and read it. So I didn't even know it was in the possessions along with the toothpaste soap and deodorant and a couple, you know, soups and snacks that he could give him because I had never seen it. But when he rolled it up and gave it to me on like a towel and I took it over to myself and I opened it, it was actually in there. But I had never seen him with the one we never discussed. Anything. So it was just the time. It is amazing. I mean, we talk about, you know, from a fight perspective, you talk about the power of the word of God that he goes forth and it does not ever return void. That scripture just speaks to me. And intimidates me in a way too because it's a reminder that God is working in our society even when we have no clue of how he's doing it.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Eric Shares His Thoughts on QAnon
"Eric, I love to listen to you. I admire your courage and tenacity on so many issues of our day. I'm thankful to know of you. I know the horror of child trafficking exists. But what about the story we hear that sound like QAnon? I'm of the opinion that Q is organized misinformation, opinion, largely based on the accusations against Billy Graham that I've read through Q what is your take on Q and Isaac cappy. I just finished watching the documentary these little ones by Stu Peters. The reason I ask you is because I fully trust your passion to find the truth about these difficult topics. May God continue to grace you and work with you and as you honor him. Well, my opinion of Q is a non opinion I've heard enough from Q that sounds wrong to have a skeptical view of Q and not to take Q particularly seriously. It does strike me that it is highly likely that Q is a deep state thing and others that some people in the deep state, the same people that created the fantasy that January 6th was an insurrection or that encouraged people to come into the capitol. I think that there are very, very, very bad actors in some of the agencies, whether it's the CIA or others or state who would love to create a conspiracy theorist theory just to gaslight people who are susceptible to them. And the reason I say this in part is that things that I know that are true that have nothing to do with Q are so bad that you don't need to believe that there are lizard people or that Hillary Clinton was hanged at Guantanamo Bay a month ago or that Joe Biden has a double. Even if those things were true, there's so much stuff that I know is true. That to go there, I think, is to get sucked down a rabbit trail that is unworthy of our time.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Ricky Skaggs and Eric Reflect on Country Musicians Who Know Jesus
"Think about country music, it's a very faith friendly world, obviously Johnny Cash was a very serious believer in Jesus and got it. And one of the things that I hated about the film. The only thing I hated about the film walked the line was that it completely left out how he gets pulled out of the hell of drugs and alcohol. It was Jesus. Yes, it was. And it was his wife praying for him and leading him along that and her dad. And you know, in other words, that's the, that's the heart of the story, folks. If you want to know how Johnny Cash survived and lived and had a career, it's because of Jesus. And when they leave that out, I think to myself, Hollywood tends to do this. We live in a secular culture that secularize everything, and you think that doesn't make any sense, because there is no story without that part of the story. That's right. And of course, you knew him personally, as you said earlier. So you knew this was real. I mean, I heard Billy Graham speak in Central Park. I think it was 1990. And up on the stage here comes Johnny Cash. And so I think a lot of people that they forget that a lot of these icons, these American icons love Jesus and Johnny was one of them. He was. But so many, I'm just fascinated by how that runs all through. Country music. You can't turn around without bumping into somebody who believes. And there's different, you know, different levels of belief. But I think I told you the phone, the story I was in the Berlin zoo and the hippo house and the Berlin Zeus, like I'm making this up. And it was about 5, four or 5 years ago, and I'm looking for the hippos. Can't find the hippos, and I turn around. And there's a guy who thinks he's disguised standing there, but I knew who it was and it was Chris Christopherson, sit standing there. This legend of legends or whatever. And anyway, I was honored to meet him, but a few days later, a friend of mine sent me Kris Kristofferson, telling his story of being drug to use your language, being drug into a church. And having an experience with God that was so profound that he wrote that classic song, why me lord, was George Jones. But I mean, people need to know that a lot of these folks that they think so and so is a legend. He's like, he knows Jesus.
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
How Church Leaders Aligned With Fauci to Discredit Experts
"Exactly did he do? Because I understand he has a lot of connections with many evangelical leaders some were even within the Southern Baptist convention. Yes, so early this year, I had released a report on all of the evangelical leaders, including people like Christianity today, editor in chief Russell Moore, Billy Graham center, director at stetzer, Tim teller, a lot of other big Rick Warren. Some other big names who had platformed Francis Collins to come on their podcast to do interviews with him to run stories, advocating for him basically saying he's a Christian brother, we need to listen to him and you can go back and find that old report. But that was the first story. And then this week, what popped up was that this organization that Francis Collins founded put out a statement called the love your neighbor get the shot statement. And this went even further because it was essentially a pledge that a variety of Christian leaders, including people like NT rights, very famous theologian, Christian author, Philip yancy, that one breaks my heart, Christianity today, CEO, Timothy dalrymple, some seminary president, veggie tales, creator, Bill Fisher. They all signed this document. And in it, they promised to actively promote accurate scientific information from trustworthy consensus sources and they promise to help counter misinformation and conspiracy theories from non consensus sources. And when
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
The Royal Family Summoned to Scotland
"It looks as though the folks over in the UK are on death watch, Queen Elizabeth, not doing well. And we're going to be following that story any kind of breaking news about the queen, we will share that information with you. It is, I mean, it's a sad story, but what a great life she's lived, and the woman is a very devout follower of our lord, was a close personal friend of the late Billy Graham, and was one of those really people in world history that truly shaped generations of British people. All over all over the world. And so we're going to be following those developments. The latest there, we understand, is that the royal family has been summoned to the castle. They're not at Buckingham Palace. I believe they're in Scotland. And we'll keep you updated on that story.
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
When Will Conservatives Say 'Enough Is Enough?'
"But look, over the years, what we've been going all the way back to the Obama administration, conservatives have been persecuted by the government. Persecuted. Billy Graham, the pro life organizations, the Tea Party. How many times were we audited? How many times were we investigated over the years? We've seen in recent years, we've seen the police coming under attack. We've seen our cities burn to the ground. We've seen our businesses looted. Pillaged and plundered. And at what point do we say enough is enough? Because there have been plenty of justified reasons for conservatives to get out there and march in the streets. You've got the Democrats out there talking about Civil War all the time in the blaming us. We're not the ones talking about Civil War. It's the Democrats. So we're going to play some audio a little bit later on in the show about that. But do you agree with Lindsey Graham that the line in the sand is when they take the president into custody? And when that happens, when they decide to prosecute Trump, the gloves come off and the conservatives are out in the streets. Do you believe that to be the case? Do you believe that there would be riots in the streets?
The Eric Metaxas Show
Greg Laurie Discusses the Faith Journey of John Lennon
"To my friend pastor Greg Laurie of harvest church in Southern California, the author of many books, the new one is called Lennon Dylan Alice and Jesus spiritual biography of rock and roll. So Greg, you're sharing some fascinating stuff that John Lennon called in, I mean, I had heard that he was watching Christian TV kind of hanging out in the Dakota during this strange period in the 70s kind of raising his son there just being a house husband and watching Christian TV and that he called up Billy Graham's whatever called up the number on the screen and professed faith in Christ and then you said wrote about it in his diary. Yeah, I wrote about his new film faith in his diary and he recorded two Christian songs. If you go to YouTube and Google John Lennon comet Christian songs, you'll find that they were rough songs, one almost made it on his final album, a double fantasy. But even a double fantasy, you can see him beginning to soften. He writes in his song beautiful boy about his sunshine before you go to sleep, see a little prayer every day and every way gets better and better. John was changing. Now, here's a tragedy, and we all know that. John was murdered by Mark David Chapman. And so I begin this book with this statement. There'll be three surprises when we get to heaven. Number one, some of the people we thought would be there won't be there. Number two, some of the people we never thought would be there will be their number three, we will be there. So here's my premise on John Lennon, because I wasn't there at that moment. He did survive the shooting. They put him in the back of a police car and rushed him to the hospital. The officer asked him, do you know who you are? John did if in the final moments of his life, John called out to the Jesus. He professed faith in his prayer would have been heard just as surely as Jesus heard the prayer of the thief on the cross. So
The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie's Two-Part Church Test of the Roe Reversal
"Big and bold and important things are going to take sometimes years to get done. But guess what? Rush Limbaugh and Billy Graham are smiling from heaven saying I told you guys to keep fighting for that. And there's so many things that we lost on pack in this. And this shows how incredible the church that dream city is because dream city passed what I kind of put forward as the two part test of the roe versus wade reversal. So the first one is, did your pastor mention it happened? That's the first thing, right? Most did not. Most pastors just acted as if it was just another day at church. Or they said, you know, I know this is a very difficult issue. Sorry, your pastor is not a difficult issue, okay? Maybe if you were a secular humanist running some sort of philosophy class at a local university at the difficult issue, not difficult for a pastor, right? We're made in the image of God, life is sacred. It needs to be protected, period, every pastor needs to say it. And so there were a lot of pastors that passed the first part, but the second part is equally as important, which is we now need to step up and recognize and realize those of us that have been advocating for an end to abortion in America. You need to expand our services, our charities are nonprofits like the dream center to be able to equip and empower and support every woman in America that is now going to be bringing life into this world. It's now on us because look, the other side they're going to be saying, the argument they always make is we need abortion because it's too expensive. We need abortion because it's too costly. We need abortion because there's no options. And that's one of the reasons why we partnered with choices here in Arizona. Amazing organization, by the way. And so now it's incumbent on us as Christians to step up to the plate to support these charities even more with our time and our treasure and our resources and our prayer because there is going to be an overwhelming amount of first time
The Charlie Kirk Show
Charlie Celebrates the Overturning of Roe From Legacy Church
"But you know what, we're going to get right into this chart. I just want to talk to you about the landmark decision, the biggest and over 50 years. We're going to stand for that. Got a good. We just gave God a standing ovation. Amen, and just praise God praise God praise God. And I just want to say, to those of you that have been prayer warriors on the issue of life, God bless you, that victory was for you. For those of you that have been fasting and praying for your nation, God bless you that victory is for you. For those of you that have seen someone that made a decision for life and you know how beautiful and precious life is and you prayed at the courts when one day make that decision, that victory was for you. And for those of you that work in the pregnancy crisis centers here in Albuquerque, God bless you. And I also want to thank so many of the Titans that came before that fought for this because this was a generational fight. There's so many people that are no longer here that fought so hard for this. God bless Billy Graham for his moral clarity for years on this issue. God bless Rush Limbaugh, who never gave an inch who sought on this issue. And ten years ago, justice Antonin Scalia, another warrior, passed away, and he passed away in 16, but ten years ago, he was saying, you know what? I think the court is just off the
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Pro-Life Warriors That Need to Be Honored Today
"Now, I would be remiss if I did not mention two, now passed away legend and heroes. That are largely responsible that helped us get where we are today. And that is justice Antonin Scalia and the great Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh was a pro life warrior. He would be so happy right now. He brought so many people into the pro life movement. Rush Limbaugh, for years, was one of the most articulate and courageous. And intense pro life leaders, unapologetically so. Rush Limbaugh was pro life before the pro life movement had the funding or the infrastructure or the kind of grassroots support. And rush would never lay off of that topic. Rush was on top of it for 30 years in the excellence in broadcasting. I remember time and time again when I was a senior in high school and I would be listening on local Chicago radio, rush would be going on and on and on about some pro life story about how Planned Parenthood was doing something illegal. And another person that I do want to mention that deserves a lot of credit as well is Billy Graham. Billy Graham, he would just be so ecstatic right now. Scalia, rush, Billy Graham. Billy Graham, who spoke moral clarity into our times. Billy Graham, who was, in my opinion, the most successful evangelist in the 20th century. Who at any pastor you turn to, they have nothing bad to say about Billy Graham. Verse by verse chapter by chapter, he preached the inner sea of scripture, but he was very clear about the moral truths of our country. Or that under undergird our country. And then finally, Trump brought all of this movement to fruition. And yes, I begrudgingly and reluctantly. Have to say, Mitch McConnell deserves credit for not putting Merrick Garland on the U.S. Supreme
The Eric Metaxas Show
Pastor Che Ahn Writes of Revival in 'Turning Our Nation Back to God'
"It is amazing pasture che on you've been a pastor for a long time and you've ministered all over the world, your program is around the world, and you are convinced that we are on the verge of revival. Tell us more about that. Well, I wrote this book together encouragement and hope to people. Because the first chapter I write about is that it's always the darkest time before the light of revival breaks out. It's based on script draws is 60 verse once it's a rise shine for your light has come and the glory of the lord's wrist and upon you. Darkness coast the earth deep darkness over the people, but the lord will rise upon you and his glory will appear before you. And nations will come to your light and kings to the brightness of your dawning. And so we see this two parallel tracks of darkness and light in the last days. Haggai puts it this way and hang out chapter two verse 7. I'm going to shake all nations and then I will fill this house with glory and the glory of the latter I'll speak greater than the glory of the farmer in verse 9. And so we see a global shaking going on. The first time we saw global shaking in mass, I'm talking about every nation except for 8 nations that declared themselves to be neutral, was World War II. 1939 to 1945, 80 million died. Most of them were severely an 80% of the 80 million that died. It was a tragic war. And of course the dropping of atomic bombs and you have this incredible shaking going on, but right afterwards, you had some of the greatest revival from Billy Graham launching his international ministry and 49 to oral Roberts in 48, then you have the voice of healing, movement with branum and these incredible healing evangelists. Then you have the hebrides revival in 48 and later ran in 48 and goes on all the way to the Jesus people movement the charismatic renewal. And now the second shaking is taking place right now with COVID,
The Charlie Kirk Show
Who Is Controlling the American Church?
"Who is controlling the American church. What if I told you that the federal government had infiltrated parts of American evangelical Christianity? Well, Megan basham from the daily wire has done some amazing investigative reporting on this and research Megan. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Thanks so much for having me, Charlie. So Megan, tell us you had an amazing video that I watched and I wanted to have you on the program. So build it out for us. How was the American church really infiltrated by left wing COVID narratives in the midst of the last two years? Well, you know, we've done a couple of extensive reports on this and they were all kind of condensed in that video. And it really started at the beginning of COVID when the federal government dispatched Frances Collins to he was the head of the NIH, the national Institutes of health, Anthony Fauci's boss, and he was dispatched to convince evangelicals to stop being resistant. And he's been very clear and on record on tape saying, I was sent to deal with evangelical resistance to lockdowns to mask mandates to vaccine mandates. So he went into churches. He had a lot of really strong relationships with what you might call the elite evangelical class, some very well-known pastors like Tim Keller, Rick Warren, and stetzer at the Billy Graham center at Wheaton college, Russell Moore, who was then head of the public policy arm of the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., which is the Southern Baptist convention. So just a really influential people. And he drew on those friendships to do interviews, podcasts, where he was presented as the strong Christian brother. To come on and give advice on how and why to submit to all of these COVID rules. And when he presented these things, he didn't do it just from a medical point of view. He, along with these pastors, presented it as this is how you show your love for Jesus. This is how you obey the gospel. And that was really something that they didn't just say, look, we're presenting a scientific point of view. Here is one scientist you might want to listen to. They didn't present any counter points of view from the scientific community, but that they really punched it up with if you want to love your neighbor. If you want to obey Christ, this is how you do it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
If Billy Graham Can Talk About This, You Can Talk About This
"It was a great awakening that led to the American Revolution of people that were saying, I want liberty. I no longer want to live under king George. Now, that was the first moment in American history. The second, of course, was the church rose up in the 1820s when America was slipping a little bit. Moral decline, widespread alcoholism, questionable behavior. It was the church that aggressively inserted itself to make sure America did not fall. I want you to think of it almost as a trust fall, right? America goes into a trust fall. The only institution that is successfully ever caught America when it's falling is the church. The only institution. In the 1860s, when America was tearing itself apart, it was the church that was the administration of healing. And for abolishing slavery. How about in the 1950s? Someone that all of us will agree was probably one of the greatest communicators and pastors in American history. He himself said, quote, communism is the religion of Satan. How many of you would feel uncomfortable saying that today? Probably a lot. Billy Graham said that 500 times in 1953 and 1954 and 1955, he said, I will not allow as a Bible believing spirit filled Christian to allow my kids and grandkids to live in a secular communist society while the word of God is under assault in the spiritual domain. If Billy Graham can talk about this, you could talk about this.
The Eric Metaxas Show
How Kathie Lee Gifford's Life Changed at Age 12
"A book called the Jesus I know. Honest conversations and diverse opinions about who he is. So just for folks who don't know your biography, so you said a 12. At 12. What happened in your life at 12? Growing up, see, when you say you grew up in a home where you're culturally Jewish, your mother's. Oh, but we celebrated Christmas. Okay. But that's what I'm saying to me. We were more cultural Christian. That's most but I was aware of my Jewish Eric. But what I'm saying is to me that's most of America. Yeah. That's sort of how I was raised. I grew up in the Greek Orthodox church, but we didn't walk around saying where Jesus people or what most people in America they're just trying to raise their kids. They don't hate God, but they might not know God personally. They might have a religion but not a relationship. Right. So what happens? Well, at age 12, there was a movie. It was the first Billy Graham movie that the his association put out. And it was about a young woman who was at the cusp of womanhood. She was 14. I think 15 something like that. And she was given a choice. She had a boyfriend that was sort of a bad boy. Or she could go and walk with the lord. And Billy, even at that time, got a lot of flack for even making a movie. You know, there was so much movies of the day. Sigma movies. Radio, when you can't dance, and you can't drink and you get all these things because and to his incredible credit. And I love the man. I loved him so dearly. He knew that the devil didn't own the airwaves. So he used radio. He knew that the devil didn't own the TV stations. He did his crusades on TV. He was so wise and he listened to the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit said, make a movie for next generation. It was called the restless ones. At the end of it, there was an altar call. Now wait. How did you as a 12 year old secular Jewish girl, how did you end up going to this movie? About three months earlier, I'd come home from something it was dark out and I was at the front door and I was ready to walk in. When I looked over to the left and I could see into my living room and my sister and my mother were on their knees in front of the television crying. And I thought the president had died or something like that. Uh oh. I walked in. No, they were watching a Billy Graham crusade. They had both just given their hearts to Jesus.
Fallen Short Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Fallen Short Podcast
"I think we'll talk about this a little later on you know when think about being filled with the holy spirit and and what that means and that's you know it means a lot of different things. It's not just like the speaking in tongues part effusions for verse five reads. There's one lord one faith. One baptism god and father of all who is overall in a living through however he has given each one of us a special gift through the generosity of christ that is why the scriptures say when he ascended into the highest he led crowds of captives and gave gifts to his people. So that's kind of just reiterating. What we just read out acts one that when when jesus christ died for us. He ascended on high. He gave the crowd of people gifts he gave him the holy spirit and then in verse eleven. It goes on to read now. These are the gifts christ gifts to the church. He gives the postles the prophets the evangelists and pastors and the teachers. So that's talking about the fivefold ministry that's talking about the five more evident gifts that we see in the church right. I twelve says their responsibility is to equip god's people to do his work and build up the church the body of christ and again. Those are the gifts that chris gave to the church. And we're again. We're not all going to be called to be apostles and prophets and evangelists and pastors and teachers. Were not all going to be called the do that. We're not all called to be a part of the you know. The churches like the entity of being a part of the church. a however. you could argue that we are still called to be a part of the church in not the physical sense but the church family and still called to be. Some of us are called to be evangelist. Even though it's not like the way that you think of an evangelist right you and your everyday life sharing sharing technically right right evangelize. Last i think we get people read that and get wrapped up the terminology like billy graham right just an extreme example of that right we read these passages and we evaluate you know what it means and we have to really think about it and not just take it for face value necessarily because in our society the way that some of these terms have been thrown around. They get this. I don't wanna say stigma but they get this this definition around them that it's like well i i can't be that when you really can right..
The Eric Metaxas Show
Breaking the Formulaic Mold of Contemporary Christian Music
"To andy irwin of the famous irwin brothers. You probably remember the film. i can only imagine. There's a new film out called the jesus music movie obviously self explanatory. It's about jesus music. We were just talking. Andy about this strange moment in the culture and to me. It's there's something sad about it where we had people mainstream figures. Billy graham to some extent was a mainstream figure. But we had johnny cash. We had chris christopherson singing unapologetic. Jesus music maybe the issue is that we have separated it into a. I think a lot of people think sometimes that when you do that you sort of marginalize yourself in other words it would be wonderful if everybody in the country was listening to the music rather than just people who listen to ccm. So i don't know where. Do you think we're going with that because i feel like you don't reach people if you're just in your own little genre. Yeah i think we explore that in documentary for sure because there was there. Was this purity where it started And you know the people that there wasn't an industry around. It was his people. That kind of organically started kind of expressing their fate. And then they're kind of became something where it became a little bit more for formulaic and then people blazed trails in new directions and then it will become formulaic. And then you know that was always the struggle between you know the commerce of it of just kind of play into your base and then being able to do really great art. And i think you know the exciting thing about it. Is i think you know we try to find something. That was universally relatable and the idea of You know outside of it being genre of these trailblazers that said hey. My voice is represented and i would like to form something that doesn't exist That's incredibly romantic. But along the way you know it can get kind of formulaic and just kind of play to the base. I think the exciting thing that's happening now. With the arts you know across the board Not just with with music but also hopefully you know heading that direction in film is there's been an opportunity To kind of branch out beyond the walls and so we kind of go into where it has been the started to make those steps in that direction. Like with the lauren bagels. And the you know for king country. Mcrae's there's these modern artists that are beginning to kind of blur. Those lines a little bit more and reach a broader
The Eric Metaxas Show
"billy graham" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"You grew up in extraordinary family but i imagine growing up in that family. It's it's a it's just a family for good and for ill just like most families are and i think a lot of people would think. Oh my goodness child of billy graham. What a magical existence you have talked about this to me and you've talked about this publicly that it wasn't a magical existence. It had a downside dysfunctional. Just like everybody else but when you have a father who travels that much. You're going to find some dysfunction in the family. And certainly that was dysfunction in my of my life in the family life but you know god is faithful to us and i'm not going to be critical of my mother or my father. They were unique people for unique time for unique purpose and i know people upset them up examples. They are not examples. They're exceptions. And i think that mother and daddy were so faithful to god and we're such wonderful examples to us as children and i'm very grateful for the family that did have as dysfunctional as it was. It's funny though. Isn't it when you become a parent You have a lot more grace for your own parents because you realize that nobody gets this right. Whoever's apparent is apparent for the first time You you just do your best and then you kind of repent and you know acknowledge your fault. But now it's too late because the kids are grown up. I mean it's an amazing thing that every generation has to go through that. And i'm sure that you know as a in some ways magical and extraordinary as your parents where they they were just people doing the best. They could And then you have to pick up the pieces in your own life and then you have to make sure you don't pass on those problems as you raise your kids and so it's not. It's not easy is it. it's not easy. Being a parent is a very difficult job. And it's a time job in even found out now. My children are grown. That it's even harder now two grown children but i am just grateful for example that mother daddy gave me but my children have been such a blessing to me and they have been with me through the ups and downs and The they live in my neighborhood My sons-in-law want to live near me. And i thought what a blessing that is that my sons-in-law would choose to live next to their other
The Eric Metaxas Show
Growing up as a Child of Billy Graham With Ruth Graham
"You grew up in extraordinary family but i imagine growing up in that family. It's it's a it's just a family for good and for ill just like most families are and i think a lot of people would think. Oh my goodness child of billy graham. What a magical existence you have talked about this to me and you've talked about this publicly that it wasn't a magical existence. It had a downside dysfunctional. Just like everybody else but when you have a father who travels that much. You're going to find some dysfunction in the family. And certainly that was dysfunction in my of my life in the family life but you know god is faithful to us and i'm not going to be critical of my mother or my father. They were unique people for unique time for unique purpose and i know people upset them up examples. They are not examples. They're exceptions. And i think that mother and daddy were so faithful to god and we're such wonderful examples to us as children and i'm very grateful for the family that did have as dysfunctional as it was. It's funny though. Isn't it when you become a parent You have a lot more grace for your own parents because you realize that nobody gets this right. Whoever's apparent is apparent for the first time You you just do your best and then you kind of repent and you know acknowledge your fault. But now it's too late because the kids are grown up. I mean it's an amazing thing that every generation has to go through that. And i'm sure that you know as a in some ways magical and extraordinary as your parents where they they were just people doing the best. They could And then you have to pick up the pieces in your own life and then you have to make sure you don't pass on those problems as you raise your kids and so it's not. It's not easy is it. it's not easy. Being a parent is a very difficult job. And it's a time job in even found out now. My children are grown. That it's even harder now two grown children but i am just grateful for example that mother daddy gave me but my children have been such a blessing to me and they have been with me through the ups and downs and The they live in my neighborhood My sons-in-law want to live near me. And i thought what a blessing that is that my sons-in-law would choose to live next to their other
The Eric Metaxas Show
Billy Graham's Daughter Ruth Speaks About the Epidemic of Loneliness in America
"Interesting first of all when you say generation z. I'm not sure what that means. Anymore tha roughly what age i talking about. Nineteen ninety five to two thousand fifteen. The twenty five year olds twenty twenty. Somethings on on okay. And do you think ruth they they think of themselves as lonely because you're right. It seems counter intuitive For any young person to be lonely. That's when you're in school that's when you're doing all kinds of things. Why do you suppose they think of themselves as lonely well. They are so connected technology with technology digitally but they have no real heart connections in. That's the problem. The grandson. We'll tell you you know. We have lots of connections but no real relationships. And i think that's the thing that's missing his relationship. I think it needs to be said over and over but this is a good place to start. There's something inherently one dimensional or at least shallow about social media. You're really communicating with much depth. And you've just said it the connection it. It's really a tenuous connection. It's tremendously superficial. It's almost designed to be superficial. But i've never really thought about how if you get a lot of that eventually. It would be almost painful. Because you'd be you'd be even longing for some real connection more than somebody who's not getting any of that kind of connection well and raza and found out through the pandemic that they had more phone calls than even on mother's day because people wanted to hear a voice. Singing texts wasn't enough. They needed to hear voice. They needed to hear the tone in the voice and so people began coal and people. Not just texting.
The Eric Metaxas Show
How Billy Graham Stood Against Segregation
"Greg laurie. You said to me before we came on the air. that billy. Graham was very very ahead of his with race relations. Talk about that because a lot of people don't know the history i mean. I've tried to write in a couple of my books. william wilberforce An amazing grace and others that when you really believe what the bible says you you cannot be racist but a lot of people didn't live that out but billy graham did at a time when it was very very divisive in difficult in the country. Talk about that. Yeah well he was. The son of the south he was from north carolina raised in charlotte. And of course we know that there was there was a lot of racial division and all of the nation but especially there but as billy begin as crusades people wanted to hold segregated meets not letting black people into the meeting until the white people were. Billy said i will not speak to in a segregated meeting. I want an immigration and our meetings and they refused any literally came down and took down the little ropes and things that were dividing the crowds and he got some people upset with him but he also when he was really at the peak of his popularity had martin. Luther king do an opening prayer at the medicine square garden that was highly controversial. A because king was was not you know. He was not popular with a lot of people in the south of for ability to allow king. That role was ignificant people have. I watched a documentary on. Pbs the other. Day about billy graham. It was just recently done. They got so many things. Wrong historically factually and one of the things they pointed out was sort of like billy missed his opportunity during the civil rights movement and that is so untrue because even he and dr king agreed that the best way that he could help is by using his influence in his crusades is. Dr king was out on the streets and they were doing their peaceful protests and marches and rosa parks. And some of the other others. Billy misery supportive of this but they built. They were more effective in their spheres of influence. And in fact. Billy was a real innovator at that time and i thought that documentary was not accurate as they reported and spent a lot of time reporting that part of his
The Eric Metaxas Show
"billy graham" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Folks talking to greg. Laurie the pastor the evangelist greg. Laurie and now the author and upholsterer. Greg laurie gregg welcome. You're not an upholsterer. i But i've seen the upholstery in your home and it's what let me just say it's wonderful greg. You you're talking about billy graham. Your new book is called. Billy graham the man i knew. And you said that you were hired in the nineties to kind of fresh up some of his sermon illustrations. To you. know to be that hip guy and you. Are you serious. That in a sermon. He mentioned notorious. B i g. I don't believe that. yeah he did. I wasn't hired did a voluntarily on. But yes i gave him like quotes from smashing. Pumpkins was sung handout. Called rat cage. And so i had to explain. I said there's a band called smashing. But i'm concerned. Put a note. Billy this ban blah blah blah blah blah or notorious b. I g pronounce it this way because he would know about these things even sit around and listen to this. But i was bringing him cultural. Billy always with very in tune with the culture of his day. If you listen to billy sermons he would always talk about something. He just read something on tv someone he just talked to but you know as he got older he needed. Just a little help and connecting. When it's a modern culture expressing i hope that he never referred for example the flock of seagulls or or men without hats or pet shop. Boys that would that would that would really be compromise. The gospel to go that far. I'm just saying you know what i'm saying or boy george. I don't think that's necessary. I don't think that's necessarily think that's compromising the truth. So in the book remember the song of men out seeing one he hit eric. Baptists master of trivia. What was the one hit of men without men without hats even trying to remember that makes me want to take my own life. It was called safety dance. Yeah i don't wanna talk about that. He wanted to out that. That's that's that's evil. Stop that not a fan. Not a fan of the early. Mtv breaking remember their name. No never did. I never did. Okay look durant durant fan. You love to render iran. You had posters on your bedroom walls. You told me about it in the morning. When i wake up before i work on my offer i always look like that guy from flock of seagulls. You remember that guy. The hair sticking up a one. I don't know it just was wrong. Okay we are men. It just gets crazy. Billy graham whom you write about. Obviously in the book called. Billy graham the men. I knew he met and knew everyone. He minister to the queen of england. He he ministered to people. We can't even imagine He he he he knew churchill. It's amazing and it was hard to get him to talk about these things. Frankly because i understood that what. I should cantu billy graham. I was shaking hands with mr history. He knew golden my year. He knew as you mentioned the queen winston churchill. He knew all the popular movie stars. In the day. Bob hope and john wayne and jack many et cetera. But then he had a bentley for the most part a working relationship with every american president from truman arguably all the way to trump. The trump wasn't an office. Trump came to billy's ninety th birthday party and at his table i was at that party. And trump was a businessman. So he may he knew. Donald trump Barack obama came to visit him. But all these presidents on both sides of aisle republican and democrat called on. Billy he really was pasture to them. But you know. I think one of his great qualities is he would not always disclosed details because he he respected their privacy. Didn't want to exploit it. And they'll probably goes back to what happened when he met his first president president. Truman billy with sort of blown up at that point becoming very well known. He requested meeting with the president. He was denied a few times. Finally being let him come for a short meeting. He walked into the president's office. He and his team were very young men. The days double-breasted suits with painted ties. White bug shoes and billy puts his hand on the president shoulder. Praise for him and he found out later. It wasn't supposed to touch the president and i and truman didn't like billy all that much because afterwards he went on the front lawn of the white house and the press came to him and ask them. What are the president's aid you any told them and then they said. Would you get down in praying. So billion to as team members that were in the oval office got done one need pain. They took this picture. Truman did not like it at all. Billy later apologized determined. Truman said it was no problem. Some briefed you. But he learned to be more discreet when he met with these important people and keep their conversations. He had with them confidential but he always was seeking to minister to them and point them to christ. I just wonder what it was about. Truman maybe the fact that billy were a hand painted tie and truman had been a haberdasher. Sometimes habur nassar's they don't take kindly to those sartorial innovations i know in the fifties. The handpainted ties. Were big in the south. I'm just speculating brother. Well look siegler. Yeah not that interesting but not many people know that truman was a haberdasher. Just like jimmy. Carter was was a peanut farmer and trump was a philanderer people. Don't know those things and they need to know that now now when you say that that trump visited billy graham his ninety fifth birthday so that means. We're obviously billy graham must have been like okay with adultery. Right no he you know he wait a minute but he broke. Bread with trump. Doesn't that imply that he accepts everything about trump's past as a good thing why listen all of our so many of our presidents. He had a close relationship with president. johnson. Even president kennedy actually thin. We humid always. It's so preposterous. Because people criticized trump i mean. Of course i'm joking. But can you imagine that kennedy brought prostitutes into the white house often. No one ever mentions thing that he did this. Yeah no yeah..
The Collected Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on The Collected Podcast
"But it wasn't until. I was in high school that i went to a movie. A billy graham movie called time to run and in that movie a young guy was running from everything in making all kinds of You know wild mistakes and everything like that. He came to the end of himself kind of light and realized that there was a void. There was something that everything he was chasing after wasn't being filled and So then he received christ and he He picked because he believed that. Jesus died on the cross when he died on the cross that was for him and And so we saw that in the movie in afterwards. They had an opportunity for us. Go up and that's the first time i realized that jesus died for me and if i would confess my sins and receive him than i too would have that on eternal life and freedom in him and And forgiveness of my sins. I mean easiest. Abc you know accepting him believing he died on the cross for you in the end. The confessing our sins. I am so grateful for that time that moment because it changed my life. I was chasing after thanks to that. Were filling the void. Because god has made us with that god size for that only he can fill nothing else in. Fill it and And then i just love that you know at that. Very instant were adopted. Right into god's family we become you know his daughters and sons prince princesses of the king of case and lord lords in that spirit moves right in and against a sanctifies change us and transform us really for.
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"You're not all that in a bag of chips. You're just a delivery boy. You're there deliver the message of the gospel and whatever happens. It's been done by god now. Just be normal again. Don't sit around and think you're someone important. And and i just saw billy with people who is comfortable with would jokes was fund stories. That was just a relaxing and then it was onto the next thing. And i think that was one of the keys of success is coming back to his team. Young people that kept him grounded people. He felt comfortable with and he didn't walk around like with you know like with a big head. He was actually a very down to earth kind of guy and that was not a persona that was not. I was with them too many times in too many settings. There's no way that was fake. That was real. In fact he had moments of insecurity. You know he water. Nope this is going to work. You know he would have a bold idea and pursue it and then he would have moments where he wasn't sure and he's just like anybody else struggling with these things. You mentioned in the book that he was probably the coolest person you knew and that says a lot because you kinda you literally wrote the book on cool. Did i miss. Yeah you did. And it's right here. Yes mcqueen the cool. Johnny cash should also the godfather the godfather. But you say in the book that he was the coors guys. Yeah mess is a peer. i i was. I watched some sermons last night and there was a ton of young people in the crowd. That obviously look very different Who he was very nice suit tie perfectly quaffed and all that and he had a bunch of kids. They're it felt like he was as comfortable with the president's that he was with these young kids. how important is that people to speak to this younger generation of people that we have now. No you know kids that are either coming to cries or they're the beginning their lives and then when we knew where to go. Yeah well you know to meet coolness. It's a word i mean. It goes back to the fifties. It's you know stood the test of time. We'll say oh he's cool and maybe that's because of the way they dress or their their persona or whatever it is but to meet coolness is is being an original being authentic and billy was an original a copy of somebody else. He wasn't taken up with the styles of the. Oh or the younger billy where the double breasted suits the hand painted ties. The buck shuzo. So he was in the style group of david as he got older he would generally just wear suits. And i think of an instance where he was now in his late seventies. Maybe even early eighties and he started using some of the christian rock bands. He worked with the band called. Deasy talk michael. W smith and the whole stadium is filled with all these young kids and so the people love the band's they love the music but the greatest ovation and applause was saved for billy when he walked out..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"For forty years. He doesn't eat it for seventy years. I'm actually close fifty even older than you think. Well you know to funny thing with billy he. He was so filled with energy. You know today we would probably diagnose them as being hyperactive but that energy served him well later in life. He was always a very energetic guy. A very intellectually curious person a person who loved to grow and learn and an enormous reservoir event or gee just by the way the lord wired him and but i think even more than that he loved what he did he'd loved the lord he loved to see people reached by the lord. You know for me eve. It's like i'm more by individual stories than i am by. How many people showed up to a meeting. I mean obviously. When i speak love to have a full house if i can in reach as many people as they can but when i hear a story of a life that was changed a life that was impacted. How something that was said maybe turn a person from suicide or turn them from their drug addiction and the came to christ and while that is what keeps me going and i think that's what billy going as well and you know i love what i do. It's not a job. It's my calling. It's my passion. I do it because i want to People my age who are retiring. Some are even pastors. And we'll look. I can never retire from preaching the gospel. I can never retire from from teaching the bible. That's what i'm called to do. But i actually love what idea and and my favorite things to do are actually studying preparing writing delivering messages. There's other things. I don't like to do as much that are involved in what we do. But you know boy you think about travel back in the days of billy graham especially in the forties. It was brutal planes a lot. Slower back then shipping. Yeah that's that's right so they would. It was so grueling the from the road and that's probably why he lost so much weight. And and plus when billy i started preaching he was like a machine he proud that states like a panther. He was in constant movement as he got older. He's he didn't move around as much. But there's always a lot of energy and billy even in his older years just kind of this spark of energy. I think at times when i was helping them. With his messages he was in the seventies at this point and late seventies even and so i'd go up to so tell room and and looked at what he was gonna preach and i collected similar restrictions and i would actually preached them to keep billy at this point. You say this. Here's an illustration. Here's how i would say that would just say to them like you'd say they just look at me and then if he liked it he'd slowly pick up his phone..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"Had four great awakenings in america. The most recent being what is called the jesus movement in fact. We're making a film about it. John irwin my friend. Who runs kingdom productions. I who directed. I can only imagine is making a film called jesus revolution based in part on my book and it will be the story of the last great spiritual awakening that happened here in southern california when two men came together a young hippie. Preacher name lonnie frisbee and a pastor named chuck smith and it was like nitro glycerine cub. An amazing things happen. Young people were being reached. And i was one of those young people so this movie will also tell the story of how i came to faith how my wife kathy came to feed and how we met each other. But you know it's been said. The fame revivals reds the flame of revival. So we're hoping by telling the story and you know movies are different. When you read a book you read it in a certain way but but a movie can of moves you emotionally so our hope. Is that people. See this film though. Almost feel like they were. They're a bit. You take them back in time and our hope is that it might have a role or spark and then just in a younger generation to say. We want a spiritual awakening like that for our generation. I wanna read something from. The bug. Really brings to deficient in the book. You write quote. But i've have tremendous fear. Billy said that you may be looking for a man or a team from america to bring revival. there is only one person can send revival. And that's the holy spirit. I believe there is hunger for god by the grace of god before these three months have passed. We're going to see a great revival in the city of london. If i eliminate the city of london made the last three months we cannot by definition right absolutely and they did see a spiritual awakening in london. There were there were filled with fear and trepidation because the the venue the the press really turned on billy even before he landed there. He took a ship over and by the time he arrived. The president just savage ten in he did not return fire. He treated them with respect and kindness on well. You know. maybe this yank isn't so bad. And but they predicted failure for his event and the first night when was packed to overflowing and it just went on for nights and night. Tonight billy went over to england. Many times even had ministry to the queen..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"Not to get saved already was a christian. I just wanted a closer look at this guy so now fast forward many years. A nineteen eighty-five. Billy comes to california to angel stadium to do one of his crusades. And so i was the pastor. And i was asked to participate in the event and they said we want you to do a prayer on the stage before mr graham speaks. I said okay. I was very nervous very excited. So i'm sitting on the stage and cliff barrows says to me. I'll listen when when i when that person has done singing. You go right up there and you lead the prison. Yes sir. i'll do it and so the person finished. I was just in awe of everything sitting on this date. A billy graham crusade. And i miss my cue and cliff yells over get up there and i walked up and i was so nervous praying in front of billy graham because i that he's listening to me right now and so but then when i got to know him and that happened through my friendship with the son franklin and i know and very well and the whole family and they're just such a great family they really are but as i got to know him personally and i began my crusade ministry. Actually ninety nine hundred ninety. Billy was in the last decade of his ministry and he became aware of what i was doing and he asked. If i would help him with his sermons specifically in the area of ilustrovana wins. He wanted current illustrations. So i would come through newspapers magazines. And and i would take his notes and his font size was like twenty four. I think there's like eight words on the page. You need flip the page. And so i would write my illustrations in and then the secretary. Stephanie would type them. And then i would go to billy's hotel room and sort of rehearse the lines almost like how you would preach them and billy toward the end of his life was struggling with parkinson's disease as you may recall and so his movements drew a bit slow but as it turns out he was misdiagnosed and the medication was affecting them so he moved very slowly. But i'll tell you what i would sit there in his hotel room going over these oldest and he would just sit there looking at me and if he liked. Juanita callers secretary stephanie. Type this into the message. But then that night. When he walked into the pulpit. That's like forty. Years fell off and does that power and energy came through is he would preach the gospel and known are despite the fact that it was with them and many occasions i was always nervous around him because he was still billy graham. You know and you couldn't get over that one time. I was at a board meeting and after we were done. I said mr graham and he'd say just come and billing. And i'd say okay mr graham. I was never comfortable calling. And billy did occasionally do that but i said if you need help with your upcoming crusade messages. Call me and i'll help..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"Thanks for joining me for this podcast. You know it's that a man comes along that impacts generation like billy graham and it was my privilege to get to know him personally and spend a lot of time with him. I heard all of his jokes many many times and he had some good ones. So i'm going to start with a billy graham joke. This is how he would often start. I won't do it in his voice but You would come up. And say i heard a story about a man who has asked to see a few words at a meeting and the moderator introduce him instead you went five minutes and so the man built his five minutes quickly and he kept speaking and the moderator cleared his throat and still the man continued to speak and the moderator pounded his gavel lightly they meant continued to drone on twenty five minutes later. The men is still speaking finally in frustration the moderator takes us gobble and throws it at the speaker. He barely misses them and hits an elderly man who fell asleep in the front row. The old man woke up saw. The man was still speaking instead to the moderator. Hit me again. I can still hear him. Now that's a classic. Billy graham joe and billy off from when he would be at a room full of important people of course we all knew he was the most important but he always deferred to others would always start with this joke about the farmer that entered his mule in the kentucky derby and they said farmer. You don't think your meal can win that race dee and he said no but the association will do him some good laugh like that. These are billy graham jokes that he would often start with but you know the amazing thing about his life is it almost reads like a bible story. Doesn't it young billy frank working on a farm a dairy farm in charlotte north carolina as we already heard Invited to a meeting to hear the evangelist mordecai ham billy gives his life to christ who could have ever imagined that that young farm boy would go on to change the world. Billy would often say. I'm just a country preacher and people would say. Oh no mr. You're a great preacher. And he would again say. I'm just a country preacher and then this hard that's who we always was. I first became exposed to billy graham. When i was a young boy living with my grandparents and whenever he was then television we would watch on our black and white television set. That was in the days of gunsmoke. And bonanza remember. That and. I always thought that billy graham looked a little bit like marshall dillon and little that i ever imagined that i would meet him one day but now fast forward. Many years i came to christ at the age of seventeen in one thousand nine hundred seventy and so. I heard the billy. Graham was preaching in san diego which isn't far from where i was and so i decided to go see him in person so as i sat there in the stadium with thousands of other people and listen to him. I thought that's what i wanna do when i grow up. Never thinking that speaking stadium. But i thought i want to present the gospel people and invite people to christ. In fact i even went forward at the invitation..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"I knew i show how the lord directed him how the lord called him and i describe in detail the amazing changes that happened in his life and he wanted to go one way. And the lord let him another way in how god was in control of his life from beginning to end and how the lord will do that for you as well. I'm hoping that this book will introduce billy to a whole new generation. Especially of young people. Don't really know billy. They weren't racing billion television all the time. Then everyone in person to a billy graham crusade. So i'm doing my best to bring this story. In an understandable relatable way to you i show as humor. I show us humanness. I show some of his vulnerabilities. And you'll only love and appreciate a more after you've read it. Because he was the same guy in private that he was in public there. Were not to billy. Graham's he was the real deal. And that's why i decided to write a book about billy graham because people need to know about this man who was called by god to be the greatest evangelist in history. Well billy passed away in two thousand eighteen The the news wasn't unexpected given his age but nevertheless it was news. We all felt it hurt to hear that. Do you remember where you were when you heard that bill gun home. Yes i was actually in israel And i was on a a little tour with some fellow pastors in fact Sissy graham lynch. The granddaughter of billy was with us on that trip and she heard the news differently than everyone else. We all lost a hero. Someone we looked up to. She lost her grandfather and she is very close to him and we were all very sad now. Billy was ninety nine years old so he lived a very long life but yet you know it was the end of an era and so there was great sadness and losing him. Because i feel like we need another billy graham right now in our world you know a man who's pastored president regardless of what side of the political aisle. They're on a man who can speak to us during cultural moments..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"His message very seriously but but he was really a genuinely humbled guy. I think of one occasion. I was with them in portland oregon and he had preached at that night at the crusade and it was a powerful night. Johnny cash actually played that night as well. And so we're leaving the stadium and there are people lined up on each side being held back by these ropes. And some security. And people just billy billy and you know like moses was walking through and and i was walking next to him and then we got in the car and we're driving out and So his longtime friend and associate t w wilson is at the wheel. I'm writing shotgun in the back. Seat is billy and his son franklin. So i thought i want to compliment. Billy's return said billy. That was a great message tonight and he looked at me with those steely blue eyes and he said well it's just gospel. I turn back around. I thought well. I know it's just i that's clear. And and then i thought mel something he had said in particular. Nee turn back around is a billy. I love that point. When you said christ's can re sensitize your conscience. And he looked at me and said well he can of inside background. I'm not seeing anything else. But i was. I was learning something and what it was learning. Was you know some people just all. Wasn't that great tonight. And how did i do and none of that. He even wanna talk about it. It was done all the accolades all the adulation. He was moving on and it was behind him and then we went back to his hotel. And somebody giving us these cold barbecue sandwiches barbecue beef sandwiches to eat. They were hot when they were giving but cold by the time the crusade was over so we went up to his room to eat. These cold sandwiches and billy disappears comes back out in his pajamas and trust shoes. I guess he forgot his slippers. So i'm sitting there in his room billion pajamas. Twa's telling some were laughing. We're having a good time and i. I was learning service learning that you know when you have these moments where you're used by god and people come to faith that's great but you know now you've got to get back to normal life and that's something i actually put into practice in our own crusades. It's like afterwards. I don't want some big party. In god with a bunch of people i just go back to normalcy. Like i'm going to go back and maybe hang out with my grandkids or do something normal ish. Because it's it's kind of an altered state of reality to be on a stage in front of a lot of people and and have the lord work to you in that way and you want to remember to continue to give god the glory. It's not you. it's him. And i think that's something billy understood. From the beginning to the end of his ministry he would often say. I'm just a country. Preacher and i would say well bill. You're the greatest country heard. And but he really wasn't this heart. Just still that young farm boy from charlotte..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"You is complete history. I did not feel the need to write that book. it's been written. This is a personal book. I'm talking about my interaction with them. When i saw and i am an evangelist and billy was the master evangelist. So it's an evangelist writing about an evangelist. There's a lot of insight here for everyone. But i think it'd be a really helpful book for anyone who loves to preach if you're a pastor if you're an evangelist there's a lot of takeaway truth. I learned from billy at a share in this book. That will help you to be a better. Communicator of the gospel. Yeah that's right and the book billy graham. The man i knew is available right now at our website. Harvest dot org. You mentioned franklin a moment ago. Billy son longtime friend of yours and franklin is a pilot a private pilot and i understand. He took you up in a small plane one time. Yup de remember anything special. Yes about that flight yeah. You don't forget a flight like that. It was a very small plane and franklin said you. You wanna go with me. I said okay so gone the plane just two seats. He's flying. it i'm shotgun. We take off and immediately. He begins a rapid descent. I mean my stomach came up. I terrified down people's it up and we go down again flying like a crazy man. And i'm like i would have given anything to get off of that plane so then he says to me. You wanna fly over daddy's house. I said okay. So we come swooping over The homa billy graham and he let billy know that he was coming so billion ruth are down on their front lawn and we got down close enough where we can actually see them. Make them out. And they're they're standing next to each other waving at us in the air. And i thought i would give anything to be down there with them instead of up in this cockpit with this crazy man but We landed and then the next time franklin said you wanna fly with me. I was like maybe another time. He's actually a very good pilot but he was just having some fun at my expense. Well you've actually been two billion ruth. Graham's home yes several times have many times It's treat north carolina which is right outside of asheville and i always felt like going to..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"I show some of his vulnerabilities. And you'll only love and appreciate a more after you've read it. Because he was the same guy in private that he was in public there. Were not to billy. Graham's he was the real deal. And that's why i decided to write a book about billy graham because people need to know about this man who was called by god to be the greatest evangelist in history. Well billy passed away in two thousand eighteen The the news wasn't unexpected given his age but nevertheless it was news. We all felt it hurt to hear that. Do you remember where you were when you heard that bill gun home. Yes i was actually in israel And i was on a a little tour with some fellow pastors in fact Sissy graham lynch. The granddaughter of billy was with us on that trip And she heard the news differently than everyone else. We all lost a hero. Someone we looked up to. She lost her grandfather and she is very close to him and we were all very sad now. Billy was ninety nine years old so he lived a very long life but yet you know it was the end of an era and so there was great sadness and losing him. Because i feel like we need another billy graham right now in our world you know a man who's pastored president regardless of what side of the political aisle. They're on a man who can speak to us during cultural moments. I mean billy was there after nine eleven speaking to the nation really being a chaplain to america and he played such a valuable role and of course the great evangelist But so yeah. I remember the day very distinctly and then i attended his memorial service. That was held a bit later. A back at the billy graham library in charlotte north carolina. They put a ten top contribute to the fact that he started his ministry in a tent. It turned out that that was one of the coldest days ever in north carolina and the wind whipped through that tent. The president came He had the presidential limo called the beast. Eileen right there he didn't get up and say a word he was. Just they're paying tribute to billy graham. The vice president was there many other people you've all heard of. And just about every pastor. I've ever met fact as i walked around the diversity of people that were there people from every denomination background. Every kind of theological background i thought. Wow this is what heavens gonna look like if we like it or not and you know we're we're gonna be there because we believed in jesus and we believed he died on the cross for our sins and rose again from the dead but these are people that would not normally hang around each other but even in his service it was a reminder of the bridges he built a so many people in the christian world and so many came from around the world to pay tribute to the great evangelist and in fact when his library was dedicated. A president. jimmy. Carter a president. George h w bush were there in in person as was president clinton so that alone shows you how he reached people on both sides of the aisle and he was loved and appreciated by these presidents that valued his counsel because billy kept confidential and He would really reveal something about a president. I have some lots of questions. What was it like when you were with this person. What did they say. He kept confidential. He did tell me one amazing story. Though about president. John f kennedy. I asked him if he had any regrets in life. And he said yes i do. And he told me the story of how he was at the Prayer breakfast there in washington. Dc and the president will always be in attendance and president. Kennedy was there. Billy spoke after it was over with the president..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"What day life must be like for a a major a-list movie star. You know they. They just can't go to the grocery store or walk through the mall. You know it would turn into a crowd control problem billy. Graham was as recognizable as any movie star and and more well-respected. Could he do everyday things could. Could he drive through mcdonald's well he would he would and he really would be on an about. He didn't have security team around him. He was just. Billy maybe have one friend with him but you know. He was recognized wherever he went. I mean this profile could have been a mount rushmore. Such a familiar face chiseled. You know incredible. And so i was with him once at the red lobster having lunch and and so he had a ball cap on. I guess thinking that would disguise him and the funny thing is there was an atheist convention going on at the same time as billy was holding this crusade in this town and there were people coming up to him that were attending an atheist convention because they have the little tag still to be in the convention but they were thrilled to meet billion. He was so gracious to every one of them well anyway so he had this hat and he lost it and then he said to me greg. Could you get me another hat. I said absolutely so. I went down to the local mall. Like i was on a mission from god. I'm getting a hat for billy. Graham now billy basically were ball caps and so i think i found the started thinking was called lids. Maybe but it was. I walked in. It was oh my goodness to any hats. It was so many institute. And then i didn't take the time to find his hat size. And so i i looked and looked i even pray. God helped me. Find the right hat for billy graham. My goodness and i finally chose one. I don't remember what size it was looked like and i went back though telling gave it to me. Thank me and war then. The next day. I opened the paper. And there's a photograph of billy wearing the hat. I said i got him that hat. That's i got him then. I think he misplaced that shortly afterwards. Nikki lost hats quite frequently. And i don't really know that much good because people seem to recognize him no matter what you mentioned in the book that this is an evangelist view of the life of the greatest evangelist history now and there are great takeaways for all of us in learning about village life. What are a couple of takeaways for you as an vangelis. Yeah well. I observe billy very carefully you know. When he was on the platform i would be sitting up there. And i can watch him and i watched him as he gave the invitation and thousands of people would come forward to accept christ and i asked him after billy. What are you personally experiencing physically when you give an invitation and is response was i feel like power is going out to me. And i understand that. Because i've stood on stages in stadiums and arenas and seen many people come forward in urine a definite time of spiritual warfare of the double really attacks. Those who were called to present the gospel. And i think one of billy's secrets what's he didn't take himself too seriously..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"Doing that. In fact i fell more pleasure in prepping a message. Billy graham than i found him prepping went for myself When billy actually used some material i gave him. It was just like one of the greatest moments of my life. Oh yeah i'll bet Well near the start of the book. you describe when he himself came to the lord through the preaching of country. Evangelist named mordecai ham. Yes let a great name mordecai ham and you mentioned that the billy graham evangelistic association still has the decision card that billy completed that he made a commitment. That's a real piece of history yet. Really is the not only have that decision card. But they have a whole building called the billy graham library and if anyone has ever in north carolina in charlotte you really should go visit it. You know presidents have their libraries. But this is amazing because it's like an interactive place to go to. There's an incredible exhibits take you through his life from his childhood growing up on the dairy farm along with his brother. Melvin they have billion this tent revival days and then on through all of the things that he did around the world and presents the gospel As you walk through and there's places where you can see the bible. He used his briefcase. And yes that decision card of when a very young billy frank forward at the invitation of evangelist mordecai ham who it's setup as they're in charlotte north carolina and Who could have ever thought that that linke boy would go on to be not only the greatest evangelist of his lifetime but in my opinion the greatest evangelist in history. And you know. Billy said to me many times and in interviews as well. I'm just a country. preacher understand. That was not false humility. That was billy just telling the truth. He was just a country preacher but got elevated him. I remember that he used the illustration if you see a turtle on a fence post you know. He didn't get there by himself. And billy was the first to acknowledge a god placed him in the place that he was in and in god gave him special gifts that were unique and he had this ability to with people and it was throughout his entire life in ministry from the early passionate fiery billy preaching for the youth for christ and then it is crusade in the tenth there in los angeles that launched him into a global ministry to the older billy elder statesman. Billy and finally the lion in winter. If you will the grandfatherly billy any always connected with his audience. I can think at times. I was with them. I was with them in Atlanta georgia needed a crusade. There in fact he introduced me to jimmy carter former president at that point. And that's kind of an interesting thing to be introduced to jimmy. Carter by billy graham at. That's exactly what happened. But billy was quite a bit older at that point. And they started doing these youth nights or they were using contemporary christian which was sort of a departure from the tradition of the graham crusade and some of the team members weren't all that thrilled about it. I thought it was a great move and he had packed. You know events. Thousands of young people would i found fascinating. Is these great bands. Would play like dc talk or and artists like michael w smith but when billy walked out there and by the way dressed in his suit not changing the way he dressed..
Greg Laurie Podcast
"billy graham" Discussed on Greg Laurie Podcast
"Of your best buy the wings and I'm gonna flip all the way back to the back of the book the second paragraph of the chapter. You call acknowledgements. And i find this fascinating. Here's what you write us. You say my collaborator marshall caroline. I have consulted a veritable library of books articles periodicals youtube videos and thousands of documents on the internet including the one thousand four page. File the f. b. i. Kept on billy. Research reached as far back as the civil war. Yeah oh my goodness. This book contains dimensions of billy's life and background which have never been explored anywhere before that part. I've found absolutely fascinating. The fact that you have. I mean you knew billy it says so in the title billy graham. The man i news but you have doug so deeply into giving such a rich biography on the man that you call the single greatest evangelist. Who ever lived. That's right well. I want people to understand his place in history. He's truly a historical figure Along the lines of our great presidents and people that impacted our country and even people that impacted our world and so we wanted to go back to. Billy's routes is father his grandfather his great grandfather. So we tell the story With a wide overview but then we go in deeply into his life. And what i wanted to do. Dave was show. The human side of billy. You know sometimes a person can fade into history and people never really had any interaction with them and they almost become one dimensional like president lincoln on the five dollar bill but he a real flesh and blood. Guy abraham lincoln. And so was billy graham. It was my privilege to spend a lot of time with him a lot of time. Just hanging out with them a lot of time asking him questions a lot of time listening to him preach i in in. I got to know him. Dare i say as a friend and he was just such a great man to observe. You know the private billy was even more impressive than the public. Billy and the pump gilly was very impressive. I mean i can't think of a greater preacher. I've ever seen but privately. He was very humble very gracious and always was interested in whoever he was speaking to the might be a famous person like a president and they might be somebody. You've never heard of before. Billy took an interest in people in general and and had a wonderful way about him. In every time i was with them. I almost had to pinch myself. I mean it was with them a lot so it wasn't like every time i was with him. I had butterflies in my stomach or something like that. But i never stopped realizing. This is billy graham. I'm hanging out with here and talking to and it was great to access him In here things from him and share things with them and be of some small help to him. In the final years of his ministry as billy was ending his ministry i was starting my crusade ministry and he asked me to assist him with illustrations in building bridges to younger audiences..
AM 970 The Answer
"billy graham" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer
"Welcome back America. It's Hugh Hewitt. I'm joined now by add stature at is the dean of Wheaton College and At Wheaton College. He also leads the Billy Graham Center. Dean steps, sir. Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show. Thanks for having me on Toe. Let everyone know we don't have to rush because I arranged for Dean steps or to join me at the end of my show so that we could have a long conversation. It's an interview, not a debate. And even though the show will go off the conversation will go on. It will all be posted on YouTube. And on my website, Dean, Welcome your article In the U. S. A. Today evangelicals face a reckoning Donald Trump in the future of our faith. Was sent to me by another old friend with whom I have deep disagreements on politics, and he urged me to read it. I thought it was a new, interesting presentation of your position, so I I appreciate that has it sparked a lot of interest. But as it was, I guess the you know their top headline or most of the day on Sunday, and I think part of it from people who maybe don't like evangelicals, and then part of it from people or evangelicals like me. You're concerned about what evangelicalism has or is becoming So we share a common faith. Even though I'm an evangelical Roman Catholic Presbyterian, which is neither here nor there. I'll explain it another time. You know you're not supposed to be all those things at once. But I know it doesn't make me a Lutheran either. It just means I go to Mass on Saturday and I go to the Presbyterian Church on Sunday. Uh, that practice has been blessed both by bishops. And I'm an elder in the Presbyterian Church. Not really serving s O s. So I had what I wanna ask you at the beginning in the article, you write that evangelicals believe in the good news of the Gospel that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and in our place. Would you also add, and that he rose from the dead, ascended into heaven and is alive today. Indeed, I would. I believe that's central to the Christian faith that Jesus was dead on Friday and Sunday back from the dead and receiving in migration through faith gives us new and everlasting, eternal life. I thought you might like it was just excluded from the USA Today article and I thought to myself hey left out the punchline, But editors are editors. Um, is salvation exclusively reserved for those who put their faith in the resurrected Christ. I do believe it. Is that the salvation by grace alone through faith alone and then Jesus work alone, He said. I am the way the truth and the life No one comes to the father except through me. So I want people understand you're very mainstream is sexual intimacy outside of marriage Sinful. Let me say mainstream is probably not the term to describe a conservative Angela goes like me. But the answer your question is yes. We've got reserves sex for marriage between one man and one woman over one lifetime, And I would be a conservative evangelical. Yes. Okay. So when was the last Republican presidential candidate? You voted for I've okay. I don't generally reveal who I voted for. But I have been consistently pro life pro official marriage, pro religious liberty of deep religious liberty concerns now that unfortunately, I think President Trump's kind of erratic responsible last few weeks has led to the loss of the Senate. Now we're gonna face serious religious liberty concerns related to the quality act and Morva. But in general, I don't tell people who I voted for. Have you ever voted for a Republican president? Oh, my gosh. Yes. Okay. I just I just wanted people. I thought you were, uh more Republican than you were Democratic. And therefore I thought your credibility with my audience might increase their well. I would say it's very fair to say I believe that lower taxes are better for society. I believe, you know, I mean, I think they would very much lineup. Kind of as a pastor and religious leader. One of the things that you know I teach and preach the Bible regularly is I don't want people so I didn't vote for that person. So I can't listen to that person. But I think you and I listen to your show. I think you and I will be very aligned on most issues that and I do, too, by the way on by friend I'm aligned with on most theological issues. We just disagree on politics. That's why I wanted you to have a long set up and that's why I'm going to ask you again. This is for credibility with my audience and people who will go on. Listen to this. You already said that most evangelicals me included in your article are grateful for the Supreme Court justices. He appointed Trump and for some of the religious liberty concerns he addressed. His antiabortion stance is surprised me again a surprise many again, me included, and for that I was thankful. You noted that how important is the Supreme Court? Dean? I think it's I think it's very important. You know someone who's you know, talk about life. You know, I One of the defining factors of my vote has to do with life on unborn life in the womb and so deeply important, and I think, ultimately that coming out of Trump administration, I think in that article, I mentioned that a lot of burned burned down the Republican Party. There'll be consequences for Grabs decades to come on what has happened to the Republican Party and at the same time, I'm thankful for the three Supremes and actually say publicly and vocally supported All three Supreme Court justice picks that he that he selected and again lots of other things again. I think one of the challenges is you could be deeply concerned about what President Trump has done to the country. And in my case, too, evangelicalism and Thankful for executive orders on religious liberty as I am and be thankful for Supreme Court and let me just say we're going to need a conservative Supreme Court considering now in part because of President Trump's actions. At the White House has been lost to the Republican Party and the Senate. Now you're gonna have your one buffer on some of these religious liberty concerns will be the Supreme Court. So, Dean where I'm going with this is that I believe a lot of evangelicals will so value the religious liberty and pro life and other matters that the president engaged in and proceeded to to advance. Your arguments about the last two months will pale in comparison to the thanks, ladies and gentlemen, the conclusion of my interview.