19 Burst results for "Billy Beane"
Gambling With an Edge
"billy beane" Discussed on Gambling With an Edge
"So now I say, let's bring back wristwatches. More as an accessory than as a necessary timepiece. And I went back and looked and of course watch is still functioning. They're great timepieces, Swiss and all that. And you can have amazing designs and patterns and colors and all these things. So it was fun going back and finding a swatch watch after all these years. Has it changed color on you? It hasn't changed color. I chose one that was dark. Last time I had a woman that was light, which would churn green faster. So we'll see. Yeah, well, is it the watch change colors or your arm change colors? No, my arm wouldn't change colors, but I'd wear it enough that there would be a tan mark where a tan line where the watch had been. That certainly brings back memories. And I just want to say Colin about Moneyball. It's written by Michael Lewis, and he is one of my favorite authors. You can not go wrong with any of his books. He's fantastic. Yeah, he also wrote the big short. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of them. Great. And it's about Billy Beane, who's been in the news recently as he's just he's no longer doing what he did when he's in when he was making the player decisions for the Oakland athletics he's been moved up. He's been promoted, which is sometimes means demoted, but it's a great read. All right, thank you, Colin. Thank you, David. And thank you, Richard. Go out and hit lots of royal flushes, everybody. Good day.
KCBS All News
"billy beane" Discussed on KCBS All News
"Number one South Carolina versus number two Stanford, it is the second quarter just less than a minute left in the half and Stanford is leading 35 30 on the ice San Jose sharks lost to the rangers last night two to one warriors face the Houston Rockets at four this afternoon, World Cup action, Ecuador beats cutter two nil U.S. plays Wales tomorrow with more sports years, Joe Hughes. This week, the Oakland a is announced a major shake up to their front office, Billy Beane, who has been the de facto face of the baseball operations for the team over the last 25 years, is going to be transitioning to a new role. He'll now serve as the senior adviser to a's owner John Fisher, being says the new role will allow him to focus on interest outside of baseball while still being a resource to the team. Grenades general manager David force will now lead the baseball operations department, and he understands things are going to be a little different without Billy being around. It's not business as usual because of Billy's decision to transition his role. And that's not an insignificant thing. Again, his impact on everybody in the organization is immeasurable at this point. Billy bean says he views this as a good move and believes it's in the best interest of everyone involved. Yeah, this is a good thing. I'm very excited about my role. Again, I'm excited to see David sort of officially get to lead the baseball operations. In some sense, he's been like, again, done an incredible job over the last 20 years for me. And now he gets a deserved recognition for some of the decisions he's going to make. David Forrest has been with the a's for 24 years and served as general manager for the last 8, so he's used to the kind of roster overalls these have been famous for, but now he's going to have to do it
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"billy beane" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"Yeah, but he was still stuck on this idea of just the no roles pitching staff. As recently as a year ago, less November, I think it was he had a whole long thread like 20 something tweets. He's a Giants fan. Okay. And so he had a whole thread about how he used to want to be a GM, but now he doesn't because he thinks like GMs have been commoditized now and basically like every team is doing the same thing and it's not like Moneyball, which was so insightful, which now is also ironic because Michael Lewis is writing a book. Anyway, a lot of it is like in retrospect. Oh, but even last November he was still on this idea of just like taking away roles from the pitchers, although that is happened to a great extent. Relative to 2012, at least with openers and with starters going less deep into games and not really defined closers to the extent that there used to be, but this seemed to be his real one bankable idea that he was stuck on in 2012 and still stuck on and late 2021 and thought even then that it would be several wins worth of value to some team. So just saying, but you know, it's interesting that going back and reading his posts or even Davis posed from 2012 or I'm sure my post from 2012, like no one was really thinking about baseball from an effective altruism standpoint. Would this be good for the game? I was going to we did this. Right, and SPF like he acknowledged in one of these posts like, well, pitchers would hate it, obviously. But it would be very valuable to teams. And this is, you know, we've all matured, I think, maybe as a community. I mean, we weren't perhaps anticipating a that these things would happen. It was all very much in the realm of abstract like here's a wonky idea, right? Here's one weird trick you could use, but no one was thinking like teams will actually pay attention to this. They might do this. They might hire Dave Cameron and others here to implement the ideas that they first blogged about. And so back then, it was all about like, well, what's the value you could get? And it still is for teams, certainly. But I think media members, fans take into account now like, oh, well, maybe what is good for teams is not necessarily good for the sport or for spectators and we don't actually want pitchers to have no defined roles whatsoever and just come in and out constantly. That is actually not as fun to watch. So we've evolved, I guess, is one word for it. Yeah, I think that there's been an evolution of thought and I think that there is a greater sensitivity now to how fun the puzzle box is to watch in addition to how fun it is to put together, right? And I think that we've all thankfully evolved on or become less naive to or more sensitive to, however you want to put it like the labor implications of all of these strategies and wanting to be more mindful of that piece of it in addition to how it actually feels to sit and watch a baseball game. And so I think that that's all to baseball and certainly public baseball analysis is benefit and it surprises me not a bit that this guy would be like, what if I could make it worse to engage with, you know? 'cause that's how he's approaching a lot of the world. It sounds like. And he doesn't like books, like imagine being proud of not liking books and like saying that. I'm not saying everyone has to be a big reader. That's fine, but books. I don't know about books, and it's like, okay? Yeah, I'm fine with specific authors. He has a whole post about how, you know, we prioritize the past too much, and at some point, like we just decided to the great artists were and how improbable it is that the great artists in one medium would have been alive several hundred years ago when there were so many of you were literate people and all these things and they just get ingrained in the curriculum and maybe we're not recognizing great current artists and I think maybe there's something to that idea. He's anti Shakespeare, specifically. And look, I want to know how to take Shakespeare maybe a bit overrated. Or doesn't bring me personally that much pleasure as a reader, but that's just a personal taste. I am not coming out with a blanket condemnation of books or authors very pro those things in general. The specific. So what you want everyone to take away from this segment to be is that you do not under any circumstances gotta hand it to him. No. No, absolutely not. Anyway, I will link to the combined baseball rating of Sam bankman fried for anyone who has fallen down the FTX rabbit hole as I have. Not at all surprising that he would have wanted to be a GM, like someone who went into this field and talks the way he talks and does the things he does because there's just so much overlap between finance Bros and baseball GMs, right? Some have been both, you know, talk the same or think the same. There's just a lot of overlap there, obviously. And that's one effect of Moneyball. So anyway, not surprising that he would be that. I always enjoy when someone who becomes famous for one thing, turns out to be a baseball fan. When James holzhauer was on his big jeopardy run and we all found out he was like a saber guy and he was on the podcast like that was cool. This is more infamy than fame. So not as cool, but also not surprising that people would unearth the baseball tweets at the same point. Yeah. Anyway, I guess relevant to Moneyball, Billy Beane has stepped back from being a baseball operations executive. So sort of an end of the era there. He is handed over the reins to David forced his longtime second in command and he's now just an adviser, more of an ownership level executive for the a, so still an association with the team, but not really running the baseball apps day to day. So he goes back to 97, the longest ten year GM. So now his pal brain cashman will be the longest. So that was notable. And also in baseball slash finance news, I'm kind of interested in this braves Liberty Media spin off. I don't know if you saw this, but it landed at the baseball team has been a part of the overall Liberty Media package, and now they are decoupling those things so that you can basically buy stock in the braves specifically or there will be a tracking stock for the braids, which should be interesting, I think. Travis wrote about this and said, maybe we'll get more transparency into the books than we have already.
"billy beane" Discussed on WLS-AM 890
"On 8 90, WLS. Have to get something off your mind, call 8 four four for the USA and let da know. 844-484-3872, the Dan bongino show. So again, you know, the money ball theory, I love the movie Moneyball. The book is awesome, too. It describes the rise of Billy Beane, the old general manager. It's a true story of the Oakland a's. The athletics, if you want to sound like a true baseball aficionado. Billy Beane was a guy who was scouted and deemed one of the most elite baseball prospects in the entire country. So when Billy Beane was called up to the major leagues to play baseball, he was expected to not only be good. He was expected to be in all star, maybe a Hall of Famer. That's how high the expectations were on Billy bean. Well, although Billy bean was a talented guy, his career as he would acknowledge himself, baseball career, was a bust. He never really caught on with the mets. Had a tough time at the plate, tough time in the field. So Billy Beane being a very, very smart guy. He wondered, this is the premise of the book throughout his life, house, professional scouts whose entire jobs, their entire jobs, are to evaluate baseball talent, could have gotten to him so wrong. Now, I'm thinking about a, I haven't told you this, Mike, but I'm strongly considering writing another book. Believe me, it's not about the money, folks. I promise you, we've had a pretty good couple of months. It's because I'm fascinated by this topic of how some people use failure as a motivator to do different things and other people take failure as an obstacle and just sit there and go as a wall in front of me. I'm not going to try to climb over it, right? Well, Billy bean said, gosh, my career didn't work out that well. So clearly there's something wrong with this scouting because it's not that they got me a little bit wrong. It's that they got me a lot wrong. I was supposed to be an all star Hall of Famer type player. And I couldn't even hack it as a starter. So he later went on to become the general manager who supervises scouts with the Oakland a's and Billy bean story is amazing how he transformed this relatively small market team Oakland without a huge budget into really what was a multiyear contender. When it turned, I mean, they have the record. I think still, I'm not sure if it's been broken, Mike, since but for the longest winning streak in baseball history, it was 21 games. There's a movie made about it. I'm not a huge Hollywood fan, the books actually a little bit better, but if you don't have the time and you just want to, you're sitting there in a storm and you need something to watch on your movie channels or whatever it is. The movie money ball is pretty amazing. Brad Pitt plays Billy Beane. And there's a scene where he's sitting around and this is the simplicity of it and where I'm going with this is the simplicity of arguing with lefties and kind of circling back to being in the show why I said I'm never afraid to put lefties on my show or have them call in this shop. It's not that they won't win an argument. It's that they can't. You can't make 5 plus 5 equal 12. I don't care how many different ways you try or mass imaginations you engage in. It's not going to happen. So there's a scene in the movie where Billy Beane sitting around with a bunch of scouts who he has an inherent distrust for because of how they blew it with his career. And what are the guys is talking about this guy is like, yeah, man, he's a quality hitter, a great bat speed. He gets the he gets the barrel of the bat and the ball. He drives it, a lot of power there. We can work with this guy. And Billy Beane looks at the guy and he says, if he's a good hitter, why didn't he hit good? Now there are a bunch of great lines from that movie. But I've got to tell you, that one is by far my favorite. Because sometimes as human beings, I find that we have this need to overcomplicate things. You know, if you write a book like I have, there's a pressure to meet a word count that stuff. So when you write these exposes on the left, people will say things in a thousand words that they probably could have said in ten. I get it. It's not their fault. I mean, you know, my first couple of books, you know, luckily they were topics I could expound on naturally, but there is this pressure to meet a certain word count. So that's why you've got these elaborate books about liberalism and political philosophy. They could be explained with very, very few senses. Like if liberalism works, then why doesn't liberalism work? Then why don't you have an example of it? Why did the scouts keep missing it? The media would be the scouts in this case. If liberalism works, why isn't it working anywhere? Why is it that the states that embrace liberalism and have near monopolies on political power, New York, Illinois, California? Why is it that these states are the one ones people are fleeing from? Listen, I'm not trying to be as smart as with you. I am being sarcastic in a way I get it with the he's a good hitter, why didn't you hit good? I understand that. I don't apologize for it. But I'm really not trying to be a wise ass here. I'm really just trying to level straight with the impressionable independence listening to my show and the younger kids who haven't decided where they want to go with their ideological future. I'm asking a serious question If these policies are so spectacular, liberal policies, let's put meat on the ball. We're talking about high taxes, heavily funded public schools, with lack of school choice, restrictive government regulations, general anti police attitudes. If these are such effective policies for growing the economy, educating the population and keeping people safe, then why are jobs not growing in a lot of these places? Why are the schools terrible and why are people unsafe? Again, it's just a very simple if he's a good hit or why didn't he hit good question?
"billy beane" Discussed on ExtraTime
"But what Montreal's second on the table right now with the real that you add him and we thought for a while, it was only when George when Georgie was sorry I did sky today. When George, we thought when Georgie was in, it was like he was going for MVP because we thought, what would this look like without him? And they've continued to be able to get results even in his absence. So when you add them back into the mix and you have the mobility of a Kyoto who can stretch the field and you have Georgie making those late arriving runs, I think would be, yeah, you're going to see them come back in and find success. Like that it's 6 mil, like that it's a Z how Z is going to be a team unlike when we talk to Cole fortuna that are going to have the ball that are going to dominate some teams in there to visit. And I think that's a good situation for him where the club's expended a lot of resources on him. Obviously you're going to pay me a lot because foreign players into the Netherlands got to make a certain amount. They're going to have to be looking at them as someone to develop and sell on, which they have a good history of as well. He should get opportunities to really thrive. If it is, if it is $6 million, and that's like that has not been confirmed, but if it is $6 million, he'll be their most expensive signing in 15 years. So they would not be buying him to develop him. They would be buying him to slot him right into the lineup in Oz, is they're probably, I think, the fourth or 5th biggest club. Exactly. Exactly. So this is their push to get into Europe. And it's also worth noting, Billy Beane, the Moneyball guy, from the he's one of the investors in Oz, who came on over the past year. So Georgie jumps off the page in terms of underlying numbers. And in the air de vizier, guys who create chances like that, play big minutes, have a lot of success. Get sold for big money, their next stop. Matt and the cream city hit us up. And he prays Justin Reddick said he was excited about a young American having the contributions he did against Toronto FC. Also, we talked about the cream city in the last show. We didn't know where that was. We thought, I don't know. Is it Boston? Does anybody know where the cream city is? Anybody ever heard that? No, nobody. Kalen, you got a cream city reference in you here? We missed that.
Men In Blazers
"billy beane" Discussed on Men In Blazers
"With it. And in 2019, you were hired as a technical director at D.C. United. But you end up staying there for just 6 months because and this is incredible. July 2019 bonds Lee came calling. Barnsley, a mainstay, really of the English second tier over the years, but a club with big ambitions, our great joint friend, Billy Beane, of Moneyball fame, one of the number of investors who put money into the club 5 years ago with the goal of using a data driven approach to try and lift it. And here's what I want to know. What are you leap from D.C. United to Barnsley in the English championship? Watching you make this move, a young American who had no experience at all of English football, arriving a CEO of a bloody proud northern Yorkshire club. How did it even happen? A friendly friend of mine, who was an investor in the club and investing in European football. I said, hey Dane, our CEO is leaving and going to a sister club at nice. Would you be interested? And I laughed. I said, what are you talking CEO of an English football club? I barely know what a technical director does. He gave me a word of I said, Dane, anytime someone your age is offered this. It's very hard to turn down. And most CEOs in the world don't know what a CEO is. They're either under qualified or overqualified. And you get in the position, you run with it. So I said, okay, let's take a shot. You know better than I do. This is not an exaggeration within a week. I had 8 phone calls with the board and the last one was Billy dean. And two days after those phone calls, they offered me the position. That is an incredible life less than most CEOs have no idea what being a CEO is about until they start the job. And you told me a fascinating part of the story was that Billy bean conversation because he asked you if you understood data and statistics, and you are facing up to the king of data here. I mean, Billy Beane knows data like flu from progressive news insurance. Tell us what you said. Yeah, I mean, very quickly on the call with Billy. I realized how genuine he was and he just not a bullshit artist. I don't know if that's allowed on, but going with it. We have our general conversation introduction, what we thought about sports, both our backgrounds, got to know each other, as their synergy there, and a friendship that's been kindled since then. But at the end of the call, he basically said, okay, Barnsley is based around data implementation. That's how we first cut and looking at our recruitment. What do you know about data analytics? And I said, Billy, honestly, I don't know the first thing. And he paused, it was about 20 seconds, and he said, just writing this down because I'm going to recommend you. You're the first one. I've talked to three under the candidates who all said, I know everything about data. And I asked them the most basic questions and they didn't know a thing. And you were the only one who was honest, and I was like, yeah, well, I'm honest because I want to learn. And I'm being honest and saying, I don't know the first damn thing. So he was able to take that and say, yeah, okay, this kid, I can maybe mold a little bit, and he'll come help progress what we're trying to do at Barnsley. Listen to this, this is such a bloody important life lesson, always beat yourself authentic, human beings win. But can you describe that learning curve? Because you were rolling up there at Barnsley. For those of you who don't know, is in Yorkshire, the tykes. It's all cool country. It's been compared by some cultural experts roughly to Appalachia, a fantastic part of Britain, but my God, not always one that's welcoming of strangers on first blush, particularly not one with an American accent. Because English football is so bloody different to MLS and you gave a great quote around that time, you said learning how to navigate the European transfer market was like learning a new language day. You in temporary housing. It's cold. It's where culture shock must have been off the charts. How would you lead with authority when you don't really know yourself what you're doing? Yeah, it's a very good question. So it felt like just from the footballing side and getting to know the English slash European market that I was thrown into the deep end with weights on my ankles and floaties on my arms. Didn't know which way was up or down or east or west and I was navigating that, learning that language, as you said, and then also trying to learn the language that's in Yorkshire in particularly Barnsley because you can't understand a thing that they're saying. But over time, it was those people who at first looked at me and said, who the hell is this young American? He doesn't know anything. That actually work the impetus to allow me to grow into where I am now, because they were so helpful, first off the love of their club. They thought, okay, this guy's coming in at CEO. We could down tools. We could go on our corners, but then my town, my city, the club that I love, goes down. So let's try to help this kid out and be a united front and keep Barnsley in the championship. That first season, bit of a baptism of fire. We need to say the club was back in the championship after being in League One. They struggled to adjust. You lost nearly twice as many games as you were. You were hovering around the drop zone or in it for much of the season. I think you escaped relegation on the final day. And you also had to deal with the league shutdown and the challenge of those awful first pandemic months. This is football and its most savage least glamorous and you've said you learn more in that first year than you've learned in your entire life. What were the most important lessons? Yeah, maybe more than I'll ever learn to be honest because it came in the middle of the window. We signed 12 or 13 players in that window to get ready for the championship season. We won our first game at home against Fulham, favorites to go back up. And then we didn't win for 17. And it was like taking up brick to the face every weekend or every weekday. And as another goal would go in at oakwell and the fans would turn around and look at me or say something or I was like, yeah, this is going to be a bumpy road. We had a work stoppage because of the pandemic. And then when we came back, we were flying out of the gates. The last game the last day against Brentford at Brentford with a one, we're going to the Premier League. We scored the 94th minute to stay up, and I don't think I will ever have an emotion again. Like I felt at the end of that, because it was myself. My now wife, and taymor rushdie, who's our head of football administration now at forest, who's been with me at Salt Lake, Barnes, and now forest. Three of us versus, you know, I won't put Brentford in a bad light, but in an illegal amount of people in the stands during the pandemic rooting to go to the Premier League and it was an outpouring of emotion and a feeling that don't think I'll ever have again. I am fascinated by your data analysis because can you talk about what you do following the data? How much is plugging things in according to needs and then waiting for them to bear fruit and how much is reactive making calls based on what you have right in front of you in the moment? The strategy of Barnes is one of the most attractive things when they actually first called this and I didn't have to be sold the position was something I never expected. But one of the selling points was we are going to use data and our recruitment. But also built around how we're trying to play. And that means not just recruiting the players, but the coaching staff as well to implement a system that we feel we can compete in the championship with and over time these players that we're buying at a market value that may be lower than what we actually feel off the data is. As you said, would bear fruit and we would have success with them. To have their return on investment build as the clubs standing built. And we progress forward. And that season between the first campaign and my second season with borrowings, it was so important that we actually stuck to the strategy and the plan that we kept our core group together. We brought in some new pieces based off of data and the style of play that we wanted to implement no matter who the opponent was or what scenario came our way.
The Dentalpreneur Podcast with Dr. Mark Costes
"billy beane" Discussed on The Dentalpreneur Podcast with Dr. Mark Costes
"Kind of decipher and differentiate each individual from every other individual. And come up with a approval amount, an APR and everything that makes sense for that patient. Yeah. It's very interesting. You used the metaphor of baseball and ten losses is not ten losses, depending on your trajectory in which direction you're going. What you're explaining to me reminds me a lot of the movie Moneyball. I don't know if you've ever used that. Analogy and the fact that maybe the traditional lenders are looking like more at the traditional statistics that back before Moneyball people were looking at RBIs and batting average installing bases, right? It's very interesting. You say that because it's funny because I saw it, I've seen them with many times one of my favorites, but I think one of the points the movie makes is there's a couple of scenes where Billy Beane, I guess played by Brad Pitt. By Brad Pitt, he's in the scouting room and there's all these like old scouts and they're like, who are you going to who should we look at today? And there are all these old baseball guys who look like old baseball guys. And he's like, well, we're not looking at any of them today. And they're like, what are you talking about? So at the end of the day, again, I don't have 40 years of dental experience. Right? But what we do have experience on is how to build a technology product that's far better than anything that's out there. And that's kind of the history of the company, the founders, the key management folks. This is what we have expertise in. And I'll say this, if you've been, if you're a big company, I don't know if you've read the book, the innovator's dilemma by Clayton Christensen, he's a Harvard professor, amazing, amazing book. It's probably 25 years old. The premises a big company can't innovate. Because the creativity is gone, they're reliant on their old products and their existing products to get the revenue, and they're not able to kind of keep a pulse in terms of what's new out there. And even if they could, they couldn't develop new products that are technology cutting edge versus a small, tiny rink eating company that siphons off a little bit of their market share at the start, siphons off a little bit more. After two or three or four years when they get a lot of customers happy customers, then they're able to displace these large companies and in the book it kind of goes through a lot of different examples like that this drive industry and several others. But we don't have dental experience, like someone else who has, you know, like another player, a large player in the market who has 30 years that have dominated the market. But I see that as a good thing. Because we know how to solve problems and we're able to create something that is very unique. I don't think Elon must say
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"billy beane" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"Now it is a different game and I do wonder the role of the running game, especially when you when you can go back and review and replay everything. It's a risk averse game and I did talk to Billy Beane about this and I remember asking him what he felt Ricky would be in today's game and he said he'd be my trout. He said trout has much more power than Ricky, but Ricky's got plenty enough power to get the ball out of the ballpark 30 times. Ricky still has the incredible eye. You wouldn't be able to pay Ricky enough with the advanced metrics we use in terms of the way he can affect the game. We would probably have him be a three hitter instead of a leadoff hitter because of that combination of speed and power. And we would emphasize the power side more than we would emphasize the speed. And while he was done, while he was talking, I was thinking to myself, is having Ricky bat third and emphasizing power over speed really having Ricky Henderson. Right. That doesn't quite sound like Ricky Henderson. I was in, I was in west palm right before the pandemic. And I was with bob Boone, interviewing baboon and talking to Mike Rizzo, the GM of the Washington Nationals and Mike was telling me now back when I got into the business, GMs used to tell me all the time. And appropriate stolen base percentage was 75%. You make it three out of four times that league average is high 60s, you're great. If you're stealing at 75% you're in good shape. Rizzo told me that the nationals, you got to steal at 85%. To steal at 85% and above. So essentially, they want you to midbrain, basically. Essentially, not out of ten times. He says, well, what we do is we reduce attempts for accuracy, right. So we will sacrifice volume for accuracy, and I'm thinking Ricky stole a 130 basis one year. He attempted a 170, he made a 172 attempts one year. And no team does that today. And so you do sort of wonder Joe where I say Joe Madden disagrees with me is in that Joe thinks that because Ricky and Ricky's prime, you look at Ricky in 1985, Ricky stole 80 out of 90 times. He was 80 and ten. So someone like him breaks the mold because he is stealing at such a high rate at high volume. So maybe you let him do it. But you have to wonder if they would allow that because let's face it the year. He stole when he stole his one 30. His percentage was 75%. Maybe he's discouraged the same way he was discouraged when he first got into the game. And it discouraged Ricky is not an enthusiastic Ricky. So one of the things that people don't talk enough about is when you have a job, how many jobs have we ever had in our lives? Any of us, whether you're a baseball player or an electrician, where your boss just says go and do what you do best. And you need that confidence. And so for a Ricky Henderson to have all these different rules about when you can go and when you can and what the repercussions are going to be, if you don't make it, it's a totally different guy as a totally different player. Yeah, you'd like to think that if the best ever at something comes along, you would let him be the best ever. And I guess Madden has backed up his words a bit with how he handled Shohei Ohtani, right? And he went Otani BO tani, which was nice to see. But I don't know whether that would go for Ricky just because not only is it a matter of the percentage, but it's also a matter of the wear and tear, right? And Ricky was basically like that anymore. The game is not I remember talking to JP Rashad about this a bunch of years ago when he was the GM of the Blue Jays. And he was like, you know, first he was talking about just the sacrifice game and give up outs to score runs. We don't do that anymore. That's not how we play. And so the ability to go out and affect the game. And one of the things that Madden was saying was he's like, look, when we use a stopwatch, any pitcher who gets to the plate one two. They're faster. Something like that. It's over. You can't steal they're not going to give you the green light. One, two, one, three, it's over. You're not going to be allowed to go. Ricky was beaten the stopwatch as a 38 year old. Yep. You know, when he was with the angels in 97, Ricky was beating the stopwatch at a guy, a guy who was getting to the plate at one two Ricky was still stealing off of him. So how many baseball people, especially in today's game, were managers are scared to death. They don't have the autonomy they used to have. They don't run the game anymore. How many of those managers are going to risk letting Ricky do his Ricky thing? When the entire front office in the analytics department is saying that he can't do it. You just don't, you don't take those kind of risks. And so it is difficult to envision Ricky being what he was in today's game. I just don't see it. Now, a Ricky like talent, I think Billy bean is correct. I think that I think you turn into trout. I think you're a guy who can run who doesn't run. If you're a guy who has power and the power is emphasized, and because of Ricky's unbelievable eye, he's not going to be one of those players today who's hitting two 25. And he's hitting 28 home runs. Ricky's still going to hit 300 Ricky still going to get his 400 on base, Ricky's still going to get his stolen bases, but they're not going to be nearly as much. He's going to be closer in terms of steals to a Mookie betts or a Jacobi elsbury or somebody like that who's getting 40, 45, maybe 50 steals at max, right? And there is the toll it takes on you physically where he would miss games and in retrospect, it's ridiculous that people attributed that to a lack of desire because who wanted to play baseball more than Ricky Henderson ever. He played longer than any other modern position player and he would have kept playing if they had let him. But it beats you up to run that much too. Have all those impacts. Absolutely. It does. And I think the other thing about that was, look, if you were an outfielder back in the day,
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"billy beane" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"Not like that. Ricky, the Ricky story is all from just this sort of electric persona that Ricky had. That he was just one of those guys. His future wife Pamela would tell me that when they were in high school, Ricky could just do whatever he wanted. He could there was one time when the track the fastest kid in school came in one day and Ricky challenged him to a race and blew him off the field, or that they used to say that Ricky used to work on his speed by racing the bus from stop to stop, and that when you got him on a field, you couldn't take your eyes off of him. There was just something about Ricky as a player, where he was just good. He was just always really, really good. And that created a world around him. That made people pay attention because of his unbelievable ability to be the person everybody was watching once the game started. I wondered, as I was reading, as you were documenting, just how unpopular at times Ricky was with fans with media, the often unfair ways in which he was covered. How things might be different today if he were coming up now with the same sort of attitude given how coverage of baseball players coverage of labor relations coverage of economic issues, et cetera has changed how even though baseball is still kind of cracks down on individualism at times there's more enthusiasm and celebration, I think, of demonstrative Ness and emotion and character. Do you think that the world would be ready for Ricky? Now, much more so than it was at that time. Much, much more a, it's a TV game now. And I think that there would be more of an acceptance of Ricky because TV runs everything. So you could watch him and you could see, however, I think that, I mean, the coverage of the game isn't really. I don't want to say it's that much different. I mean, the world is different. But in terms of who's doing the writing, it's the press boxes are nowhere near as diverse as they should be. And maybe people would have more of an acceptance of Ricky. I think they would, because of where we are today, like, for example, the arguments over money, people are past that. But when Ricky first started an athlete who was really advocating for what he felt he was worth at a time when there was really, really bitter labor relations. Yeah, people weren't really into that. But then again, players get blamed for money today. So maybe it's not going to be that different. Maybe the only difference is that the number of zeros on the paycheck. He was such a unique player. It would be very interesting to see how people viewed his game, I think that today today marketing and advertising and branding is so much more savvy that you could sort of create, almost like a Bo Jackson type character you create a certain persona out of that aloofness out of that distance. And so the marketers would love Ricky more today than they did back then. In terms of the day to today, where Ricky wasn't a great interview back then, so it would be in terms of his expression, it would be very interesting to see how much different it would be because he wasn't one of those guys who would just go take the microphone and go talk. Ricky was not somebody who really sought out being interviewed. And one of the really fascinating things about writing about Ricky now, I think, is that the game is sort of unrecognizable, at least in terms of the aspects of it that he most excelled at. And so people wonder, well, what would Ricky look like today? I guess they're two ways you could ask that question. One is what would happen if you plopped down peak Ricky in today's environment? Would he be restrained by the way that teams handle the running game now? Or would he break the mold? The other question is, well, what if a player with Ricky skill set we're coming up today and we're being molded in this environment, what would he turn out to be? And you do have Billy Beane weighs in on this briefly toward the end of the book. But I wonder what your thought is on, I guess those two thought experiments of what a modern Ricky would look like. Yeah, for the first one, I wonder if he would be here at all. I think Ricky might make the Kyler Murray choice. I think Ricky might play football. I don't think Ricky does play in the big leagues because of where everything is going and because that maybe because of the choice that Ricky, the reason why Ricky made his choices, maybe he still ends up in baseball. If he's listens to his mother and says, you're going to get hurt. And so baseball's got a better future. Maybe he still ends up playing baseball. Or if he feels disrespected by the draft process and doesn't get the money that he wants or it doesn't feel like he's got the pathway to get to the NFL the way he wanted to do it. Maybe he still ends up in baseball. I think that a Rickey Henderson today would have real difficulty. Now, Joe Maddon disagrees with me on this because Ricky Ricky was so unique.
Big Time Baseball
"billy beane" Discussed on Big Time Baseball
"Yeah, and you know, last subject to touch on, you know, there was a lot of pride week throughout the weekend last week. And it's something I do want to touch on real quick because there were a few raise players that did opt not to wear it. Which is their right. I totally disagree with this. I can't stress this enough. But the reason why is because I played with multiple homosexual players that never told a single teammate or anybody about it. And as someone that has played this game as you have Tony, you know, I unfortunately spent most of my time in the minor leagues. I spent most of my time in triple-A, and I got a couple of cups of coffee, which was great. But I can't stress enough how hard it was that grind, you know, there were times where I lived in my car in my career. And grinded it out. And I did this all while being completely outward who I was, and I had the luxury of doing that. I had other teammates who didn't. And I will think about that for the rest of my life. How hard I struggled personally and mentally through my career. And I didn't even have to hide who I was. It breaks my heart when I think about it because any distraction can harm you in this game or any game. I can't imagine that type of burden, which I don't think is a burden, but they feel it is because you have teammates like this that are going out, putting out these statements. Well, because of religion, I don't agree with your existence. And that's something that does truly irk me. And I hope we can get it. Yeah, you know, we're still, we're still trying to, it seems like as a society. It seems like we've come a long way, but there's still some steps we need to take in terms of inclusion. And you're right, the game is hard enough as it is. And to have to carry that and it's not it's only a burden because they have to, you know, they have to keep it a secret for fear of, you know, what the reaction will be and how they'll be treated thereafter. And we've come a long way, but there's just a lot more space that we need to cover, especially in terms of sexuality in our society. And it is sad. Nobody should have to feel like they have to keep that a secret, but you know, that is where we are and, you know, hopefully we can move to get better. It is sad. It does make, especially when you've done the grind, to know that somebody is having to take on a whole nother element that you and I didn't have to take on on top of that grind. It is sad. And I don't know that I've ever played, I don't know of any that have come out. And then he said that they were homosexuals, but at the end of the day, I'm positive. I played with some. Just, you know, it was just a secret and they didn't tell anybody. I mean, just, I mean, just based on numbers alone. I mean, listen, my dad locker next to Billy Beane. That didn't come out until after he retired. That he was actually a gay man. And having met Billy being multiple times a 100% his story and what he struggled with, man. I mean, listen, so I think back to being a kid in that locker room and knowing what I know now, like, man, he had to be so, so uncomfortable in that locker room. It was just a different time at that point. And at that time, nobody knew, you know, he was locked right next to my dad. Nobody knew, but it is a sad situation. We just got to get past it. We got to do better is ultimately what we have to do. But yeah, you do mention there has been progress in that, you know, we are celebrating pride nights. 5 years ago, this was never even on the docket of a possibility. So we are growing, I would just like us to grow faster. So many areas, right? It's so big here. Yes. Please. Please. Well, on that note, guys, it's been a great show and it's gonna be an amazing week of baseball. I am of the week. What are you most excited for? Me, I'm not gonna lie. I get it. We're both padre Holmes. Matt series is gonna be. I'm fortunate enough to be doing these games on TV this week. There's these three games. So tune in is gonna be a lot of fun. This is gonna be, this is gonna be one of those marquee series, for sure. Early season marquee series. You heard it here. That's right. Mets, Padres, and Tony gwyn junior covering the entire series. There's no reason to watch anything else, ladies and gentlemen. Tony, where can people find you outside, of course? You can find me on Twitter at Tony Gwynn junior on IG at Tony underscore Gwynn junior, plus you can catch me on Gwen and Chris Monday through Friday from two to 6 p.m. here in San Diego. Absolutely. You can follow me on Twitter at decker 6, and you can follow me on Instagram, anti hero baseball, and of course all the shows I'm doing on Odyssey and the bell QL network. Please follow me. And like, share and subscribe to big time baseball on the Odyssey app and wherever you get your favorite podcasts. That's it for us. Enjoy your week, enjoy you some baseball. That's it. Beat it..
"billy beane" Discussed on Cinemavino
"I loved when he traded away the guy. Oh yeah. He was like, you're going to start my guy at first. And I'm going to trade away the person. Until you do. It was the big balls move of just, I'm going to force your hand to do what I want you to do. Yeah. I like that he came into his office and then had the other guy that zombie's brother and you're going to lose zombie, like fired the guy in front of him. And then stood up, watched him walk out and then took his chair. I'm going to smear my balls all over your office. But at the same time, I like that this movie kind of kept Billy Beane as a baseball player who does have superstition. He doesn't watch the games. Exactly. He's always driving. And when he comes to the streak, the one game he finally does come to, and he kind of checks in on, they start losing, you know? I don't know if that actually happened in this video. I don't think it did. It was a good movie moment, but the voice-over after that, where the guy was like, this is a shows a fundamental flaw in what the a's are trying to do. For some reason, I always think whoever that guy is, it's commentating. Is like iced tea. He sounds like ice stormy. I don't know. Every time I'm like, is that iced tea? And I thought he sounded a little bit like Stuart Scott. The only espion guy. I thought he sounded a little bit like him. I couldn't quite play somebody's home of Leicester's God. Also, like Robin Wright, or Robin Wright, great fucking actress. Horribly underutilized. But she's in like two scenes. And then spike jonze. Did great the stepdad to this little girl. I'm sorry, we didn't consult you on that decision, but we'll be sure to console you in the future. Also, are we all going to fuck off Steve? The little girl's song at the end. I actually looked that up. I was like, wait, did this kids guys kid actually write this song? I know this song. Oh, we didn't sing the song at the end of the league of their own. So I did. That was great. Take that off, Mike. I didn't realize. You serenade it up. And a little bit off key. Todd forgot to record. That's my fault..
"billy beane" Discussed on WLS-AM 890
"Think the bureaucracy can take a lesson from that Bureaucrats ought to have the power to influence government policy not the set government policy What do you think Don I think I really have the best callers in talk radio And I think you clearly listen to the show and not a lot You know how much I love the movie Moneyball And I think you are correct The lesson I always call the Moneyball theory is there's a scene a similar scene to what Don's talking about It's about baseball and scouts The true story of Billy Beane And the scouts ask telling them telling Billy bean the general manager how great this hitter is and Billy bean turns around and says if he's a good hitter why does he hit good I apply that rule to life if masks work Why aren't masks working If tax cuts work then why don't tax cuts If tax if tax hikes work why don't tax hikes you don't work the way they say I apply that rule to everything It's a central Tenet of my guiding philosophy when it comes to anything right For ObamaCare is working why isn't ObamaCare working But that's great I remember I remember the scene you're talking about Where one of the guys tries to defend Billy one of the scouts and he says yeah he answers to management and God But he can only provide advice It's a good point Don Thank you That's what the bureaucrats are supposed to do when the CDC and elsewhere Let me take another call there Great call Don Thank you very much Good point Clearly listen to show Let's take Ed Ed You're on the damp on Geno show What do you got How are you doing my brother from another mother I have one problem with what you were saying before in reference to jewelry reference to other objects I've been in the finance business for over 40 years and the one thing I can tell you is that the bonds are no longer bought and the dollar crashes where nobody will take it The house you will recommending and purchasing is going to fall because there's not going to be anybody there to buy it And then if they do what are they going to be buying it with Because you won't be taking those dollars Jewelry is only worth about one third of whatever the purchase price you see that in the store Yeah no jewelry I acknowledge to you jewelry I get it is not a good long-term investment but but let me just go back a minute So what are you suggesting I mean it's an opportunity cost as you well know to any investment I'm telling you you're dealing with a portfolio bad options and I think the least bad right now in this high inflationary environment given opportunity cost is assets and real estate what do you suggest I mean if your house isn't worth anything then neither is the money used to buy the house I'd rather live in the house What are you going to do Eat the money That's correct And I'm going to tell you something that I learned from the 1980s from a client of mine who bought his way out of the Holocaust He said silver is for trading meaning buying a loaf of bread paying your bills He said gold is for life meaning saving your life Now I'm going to tell you something In the short term you're going to be right where the value of the houses are going to scream up So if the worst ever happens because I don't see another Volker.
Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"billy beane" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"Already buster bleacher tweets for a Monday. First up we have Alistair hay at dice con writing in with the braves appearing to break camp with Contreras and stridor. Are they going with their best guys, no service manipulation to it seems. He adds on the side what other teams are opening with their best, can't wait for opening day. Most teams are. I think a lot of teams don't try to manipulate service time. We talked last week about the Kansas City Royals, Bobby with junior is going to start the season with their team. I think Detroit, you know, if not for the injury the other day to Riley green, I think they absolutely would have started this season with him, but he's got a broken foot after failing a ball of his foot. He's going to be out a while. You know, I think that the number of teams and in fact Oakland, you know, I've had this conversation with Billy Beane in past years where he doesn't worry about holding a guy in the minor leagues in extra two weeks in order to delay his free agency. He believes in getting players to the big leagues, but there are teams that do that, no doubt. Next up we've got mister jakey RS at mister Jay KRS writes in ellipses John Fisher's pockets. I don't agree that this is just retooling time where do you think the extra revenue sharing money is going to end up? In his pockets. And I think there's no doubt if you're clear. Yeah, if you're a front office, we talked about this in the past. You're Oakland this year. You're the pirates. You're the Orioles. You can sell it to your ownership that, you know what? We're going to cut our payroll the bone. You're going to make a lot of money and hopefully we hit on our draft picks, but no matter what happens with the draft picks, no matter how we develop, you're going to make a lot of money. So it's not a bad option. And as we've talked about repeatedly under the current rules, it's absolutely a viable strategy and it's up to Major League Baseball and the Players Association to have enough collaboration and cooperation to retool the entire system and quite frankly, you know, while that's on the ownership and I've talked for years about how I think the owners shouldn't want this, it also requires engagement and that's where the player association has to, moving forward, the in constant conversation generating ideas, thoughts, how do we change this system, and I would not be surprised if that happens before the next labor agreement. Buster, what about this? What if John Fisher goes out there and is like, listen guys, I'm feeling a little bit broke at the moment. I need to, I can't go out to dinner is often and we're gonna have to tank for a couple of years to afford a new stadium. Like what if he just says like, hey, I don't have any money like we got a tank, we'll retool the team and we'll build a new stadium, but we're gonna suck for a while. Is that too much, honestly? Yeah. You can't say it out loud. It's why, in fact, you know, and I've noticed this prominent couple of prominent writers who worked under Major League Baseball umbrella would not use the word tanking because they know that if you go out and admit publicly and use that word tanking, boy, if you opened your open up yourself some class action suits from like season ticket holders. Wait a second. We thought we were trying to buy tickets to watch games of a team that's competing, and now we have the owner coming out and saying, we're not even trying to compete. That is not a slope. You'll see any owner of step on too. All right. That makes sense. Yeah. Oh yeah, totally. Of course they're not gonna say anything like that. So John Fisher, no more DoorDash from.
"billy beane" Discussed on Bald Movies
"Yeah yeah he's he's one of his last. You know like not tippy tap last roles but he he dies a less than three years later and he's just amazing and everything and he's so good at playing like i said i don't think he's a bad guy no he's just trying to. He's trying to maximize his value and lag guys doing some crazy shit and sticking him with the team he doesn't believe in and if it fails because that's the thing he got all the credit but he also would have gotten a good part of the blame if he just on ironically plays this guy's moneyball strategy everybody would have showed it saying he said he's just trying to play a team that he can defend in interviews next season winter. I wanna be able to say well you know. Obviously i was delta's bad hand and you know how that guys but i did that. He he played. Because this guy is the closest thing to the film's got to a villain and they could really ramped up that. But i always felt this guy like you know. He's he's playing hardball but he kinda has to And then i is the thing that the guy that didn't is like the brad pitt. Character like billy beane. Like what the fuck are you playing playing hard ball. But i liked it and i was very shocked and surprised when i saw him in this movie. The other guy was often surprised to was such a big part of this. Is chris pratt Similar you know Varied run though like jonah hill has had where he i guess was trying to be pretty serious. I read that during the interview or the auditions for this movie. They told chris. Hey you're just too big to play this Baseball player so.
The Herd with Colin Cowherd
"billy beane" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd
"Is going on my people. It is august nineteenth about six thirty. Nick mullins has just entered the game for the birds against the pats. And i said it's time fire up the all apple computer grab my mic and start podcasting. Because that's what i do. I'm a podcast for so. Luckily that profession exists right now because if it didn't who knows maybe who knows what doing my be unemployed hell skills. But i can't talk about football and we got a lot going on. I actually had to take about the patriots before the game and now i got a scrap it because i don't even think it's right. I'll dive into some. I saw tonight. We'll talk a little bit about the jamal adams and the money that the seattle gave him and just i have a. I have thought that the seattle gave them a good contract. They screwed up in a different area. When it comes to jamal adams we'll talk a little bit about some gambling hard knocks kind of stinks and and yeah. It will take your listener questions at john. Middlekauff is the instagram handle. Fire those dmz gear question answered. If you listen on collins feed please subscribe to my feet separate from collins feet and if you could leave a review apple itunes obviously big week for preseason. It's really hard to tell you. Know i mean belichick played the guys for a while but let's face it. The majority of teams do not take preseason seriously anymore. The nfl now at these joint practices most of these teams pretty consistently do multiple joint practice. So clearly they treat those joint practices with their ones as what used to be. The preseason games preseason games used to be a little bit better they suck now. I mean for the most part. Because you're never gonna get team plan there guys in depending on the game. Maybe both teams. Don't play anybody so you might get lucky. Get one team. Plays their starters for a couple of series. But if i'm if i'm andy reid or bella check it's like i'll go a couple series but i'm just playing. My starters against your backups. So how long am. I really gonna go if we were both planner. Starters maybe we go a quarter. Maybe we go to quarters. But i get back once. They get past a couple series. What what are we. What are we accomplishing here. It's risky especially when we pract all week long so the preseason not that it was ever great but really kinda sucks. I don't think anyone in the nfl cells early quite bellichik. I mean he's the modern day walsh. He's really wired. A lot. Like billy beane and all his millions. That are all over baseball right now. They're unemotional of. They look at players like they're not emotionally tied and bill when it comes to draft picks. He doesn't care. He could draft in the first round. Two years later you suck..
KNBR The Sports Leader
"billy beane" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"The love man. As you said, The Giants are the best record in baseball, and we're only at the three days from the All Star break. I wonder at the All Star game. How much talk there will be about the Giants. Probably none. You know what I mean? Like, what are you guys doing here? She seriously, uh they can really rattle liberty by wearing those new Nike City connects at the All Star game, but they won't home run derbies Monday. Though I heard coach talking about it's gonna be pretty exciting show Tom. He's doing his thing. No giants in that thing. Giants haven't anybody that's since Bonds. I don't think so. Did Buster never done one or Crawford? No, Crawford. Probably should you could do pretty well, Actually, Austin Slater probably should know. There you go. So anyway, that went down and you mentioned Farhaan in one of your previous sound bites. I mean, that's kind of how it's the other thing That happened yesterday, probably more more name dropping Wolf talking from Billy Beane during the European talk Today's installment. Now it's today's down control. What's he got now? Because England he's riding with England and they won the big match with the fake call yesterday, too. By the way, we need to wait a week. We if we were doing this if we were doing this show, and you're By the way, we spent four hours on the Raheem Sterling penalty Too much what they called? Yeah, But Billy is ready to go to it's me and Billy head to head on Sunday Need stakes? I mean, this is for the show. I mean, for the audience has become like a I will ask a lot from some sort of bet. Did you do a dinner? What could it be? I would offer a dinner or somewhere I riff on the some sort of riff on their attendance. Should I tell him to join the the angler lunch that I already owe to the unnamed Giants executives? You can almost turn my $400 lunch. You know, $800 less hate to talk this way about a guy who's been portrayed by Billy Beane. But you could just extent you could, like, Take your hat off hat in hand, extend a hand of sympathy and friendship and be like Billy, Listen, I know you guys have a lot of problems feeding your customers over there. I won't You let me take you out for good Like a square meal. Three hearts in a cot for Billy Beane. The guy can't get some food. Very some people over there. I will text probably, isn't it? Meal in the in the garden in months, I will text some sort of couldn't feed their people. I don't know. I'm just record a wager over there, man. But again, he's wolf. And that was in some ways you should be placed. I really do. Yeah. What did you did? You didn't watch England Denver last night. I didn't see it. No, But don't don't. Don't mistake that for me. Not I'm kind of into it now. You know, Sunday noon? Yeah. I mean, if I can. I will. I'll get as much as I can. I got a crazy Sunday Bruin. I got youth sports all over the place gets swallowed up man and the Italy final, which I think I'm just gonna have to do the copes and watch it on my phone as I'm moving. What's your where you're gonna be? You're gonna be in multiple places. Which place.
KNBR The Sports Leader
"billy beane" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"It's a meritocracy now. So, uh, we'll take you said when you and I were together, Brian, it was very different Props and again. I think that's a good thing. You know, I think that's a good thing. You know. So, uh, running a baseball team and playing are two different skills out. Interesting stuff. Always fun to talk to Billy Beane, the minority part owner of the Oakland A's and an executive vice president. How's your club? Billy? You guys got more wins than losses. That's good. Yeah, Yeah, well, we shoot for a little higher over here in Oakland, but that's a good start. Right? So, uh, But no, Listen, I'm real proud of the way the club is either Bob pills away is performed. You know, we've lost a lot of guys and I think it's a credit to the core. And to some of the guys that you know the guys that we've added that we've I think just as of last week. We've had the best record. Uh, since 1990. I think we were like 43 27 to have that kind of record with some of the losses. I think again a credit to Bob. The staff and the players. You know a great thing about having you know. Listen to Giants. The success for a long time was based on Having a really good core players like Posey and Crawford and belts and those guys, and he was Olsen with two maths and you know Matt Chapman and Olson Canna returning here now in his fifth year. Guys like that. I think that that means a lot. I think that's been one of the reasons we've been so successful. That girl it well, it is for sure. And it just looked like a guy like Chris Bassett, who goes out yesterday. Does his thing is he I mean, We called the ace. Well, well, You know what Chris hit first of all his. You know his growth over the last couple of years after coming up, Tommy John's been incredible. I think one of the things that's really helped this. I think it's helped the Giants a lot to, uh, is the depth and the rotation. I mean, one through five, especially since we've added two. Brilliant, uh, against the starters give us a shot to win every single game. The Giants have been the same way. I mean, every start of your face and can go you know, under the sixth or seventh inning, which takes a lot of stress off the bullpen, and you know whether it be Chris or even Shawn's had some great games. As of late Hominy as well. Caps, hats. Brilliance, had some great great games, Monta so ours is more a matter of depth. And I think when one guy maybe struggles have started to another guy will pick them up. Yeah. And by the way, Speaking of arms, I have to jump to the from the starters to the bullpen and ask you about Sergio Romo. That's a guy Billy. We did a weekly radio show with him. Through the years that has a family member to us, and then he 38 God bless him, man. He's I don't know what he's sitting on the gun, Billy. I didn't check his last M P h, but it wasn't deGrom. I know that. I don't think it matters. So teacher, but tell us about chasing him down and have you had a chance to chat with Sergio. I did. Yeah. It's funny. You mentioned because, uh, you know, I have. I mean, I feel like, honestly, I'm on the deal more than our players and constantly getting worked on in the training room. You know all those years of working out there in the games of mouth paying this, right? So I think the Yeah. The first time I got the child was Sergio was in that situation. You gotta He's got a little routine. He preps himself or no, I was talking moment. And, you know you talk about him being 37 38 years old. Well, I also dropped out. Remember trying to which I think I don't know. Farhan was with us or depots with us. And we tried to trade for Sergio when he was in a ball. And so you know how far that goes back. And but you know, that's one of those things. You know surgery. I mean, he's had He's had such an amazing career. And when you know when you're working for the A's, and you've seen you watched this guy over the years, But obviously it's one of the Minnesota You know, he's had a few other stops along the way, but he just he pitches with just a tremendous amount of self confidence. A lot of Roboto And, you know, we just felt like having that type of beyond the fact that he's been effect of having that type of personality was gonna be really important to us. And, uh And he is that guy. He's not afraid of anything. That is certainly not afraid to get inspected, either. As you guys know, right, right. Yeah. So, uh, do anyway, So that was that was the reason bringing we're happy. We have them and you know, you said amazing, amazing career. He's a In fact he lives up here in the Bay Area, which very few players, uh new anymore, So no, he's been a great edition. It's great to finally happen because We've watched them from the other side have a lot of success for a lot of years. That's a great detail about you trying to trade firm enable. That's really cool and then think Here's what I'll say is that you just said self confidence, bravado and personality. But Billy the detractors of new Age baseball say you guys don't value that. We'll just say that for the benefit of your show..
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"You're listening to the spoken edition of the San Francisco Chronicle. As Bob Melvin showing how to be old school in new age of baseball sometime during the off season, Bob Melvin might wanna pop open a bottle of sonoma's, Pino, Noir and invite his friend Bruce Boji over for glass because Melvin a few years younger than Boji. But basically from the same generation is proving that an old school manager can succeed in a new school baseball world. Exactly what boats you will be asked to do next season on Tuesday afternoon. Melvin joined exclusive company he became the eighth men in history to win the manager of the year award three or more times. He wanted once in Arizona with the Diamondbacks and in two thousand twelve with as don't forget that the as under the control of Billy Beane and an analytics driven system once we're considered the team that didn't value managers. Melvin has changed that perception he has made it work beyond anyone's expectations. It's just part of what's gone on here for years. Melvin said the success that teams had without the resources always looking for an advance. Edge. Our guys have been on the cutting edge of that. And you have to understand as a manager that if you wanna have longevity. There are certain things you have to do the lead has to come from meat to get the players to buy into it. My staff does a great job of communicating. The reasons we're doing it to let them know what they're trying to do. That's the p no discussion he could have with Boji adapt and communicate Melvin reflected on his growth from his first managing job in Seattle. In two thousand three front offices are more a part of it now. And you have to understand that he said in Seattle their job was to give me the players, and my job was to put them in the right spots these days, it can be a little top heavy, but you have to adapt or you might not have one of these jobs. Melvin was a revelation back in two thousand twelve when his team seems to come out of nowhere to win the division and his first full year as Oakland's manager, but the two thousand eighteen season was his most impressive work. Melvin took a team that had the lowest opening day payroll and zero expectations and one twenty two more games than the season before that. Despite a starting rotation then by injury still remain who thought Melvin wasn't going to win the award this year that it would go to Boston's likable Alex Cora who was a steady hand at the helm of the most expensive operation in the major leagues and is bonus points of fresh new face, but Melvin one in a relative landslide receiving eighteen out of thirty first place votes. That's proof of the voters understand the odds that work against him in Oakland relatively miniscule payroll lousy stadium. Unin gauge donor relative invisibility in the market uncertain future. And then there's the bean factor. Some of his previous managers fumed and struggled as the restraint in a computer crunch street jacket without the full authority they expected, but Melvin has thrived with being and general manager David forced and just as important he has proved to them the value of a manager. Melvin is evidence that you can't live by analytics alone that clubhouse chemistry and communication as well. As in game. Competency are critical that a steady. Leader when injuries tear through a team or when a player's mother dies of AL S or when a long road trip goes sour. Or when a player is asked to play out of position can make all the difference in an outcome. I can't say enough about how important is leadership was for this group for said Tuesday. I don't know that there's a more difficult task than what we gave him this year. Melvin clearly enjoyed this year despite all the challenges he had players who as he observed have a passion for being in Oakland. A that hasn't always been the case from the start even when outsiders raised a skeptical eyebrow Melvin was optimistic about his team. He's happy working at home in the bay area and even managed to make a big game reference in his conference call he hopes this is finally the bears year. He now has lasted longer seven and a half years than any of beans other managers, and he'll be here longer last month. He finally received a contract extension through twenty twenty one. We feel like we're just at the start of something big for us. Melvin said it feels. Like, a new as era is on the horizon, led by a man who has learned to adapt and Killian is a San Francisco Chronicle columnist Email AAC Killian at SF chronicle dot com. Twitter at an Killian.