27 Burst results for "Billie Jean King"
"billie jean king" Discussed on WTF with Marc Maron Podcast
"I think men have a lot harder time now than women but no. I think it's gotten much better particularly women's sports but men's sports What's the guy's name. carl nasib with the raise. He came out and supported him. We need more men like that to come out. But we also need the quarterbacks of these teams. I i get upset. Like a couple of linemen. Said they support him and the association supports them. You know the the players association. But i want to hear the quarterbacks and those teams because quarterback is considered the leader of a team. And we need to. We need the quarterbacks to step up. And say i'm for this guy. He's part of our team bill. Russell and years ago lesley visser. Great rider was telling me that They see this is way back in the sixties and seventies and they ask bill russell it and he said well can they. Can they shoot. That's all i care about. Which is the way we should think about it. That's right but you do need someone to step up. Not unlike you did with dr richards and a right. Yeah but the interesting thing. Now from what. I understand within women's within the feminist community is is is still a sort of kind of evolving Issue around acceptance of trans athletes. Is that true athletes going through. Yes they're going through a lot because some people think they shouldn't be able to Participate and this is an ongoing thing. I what i want is that everyone has a chance to compete or play. So we got to figure this out everyone keeps just pointing to testosterone. But the more. I talked to scientists that are in this that studied. This area is just not that simple. You metabolize every human being metabolize it differently. There's been two guys. For instance that if you measure their testosterone. They would be considered feminine but they won two gold medals and men's i mean these are guys that they've been measured and no one's ever heard about them. But i know of these things. I listened to the scientists and i don't think it's that easy but bottom line. We're going to have to figure it out. It's not cut and dry. So i think we need to keep listening to the scientists as they keep studying this Thoroughly but bottom line. I want every human being to have a chance to compete in play just like the paralympian and the parallel as the human beings that they want to be correct. So that's what. I just billie jean king. Some of the some of the athletes think that that i'm out to lunch. And i'm wrong and they should be allowed to compete. Martina lower. close one of them. She thinks you're wrong. She thinks i'm totally wrong. And we've had a discussion. I said martinez. You may be right and i totally hear you. I appreciate what you say. But all i want personally for me billie jean king and i think the women's sports foundation probably is that we want everyone to have a chance to play in compete. So we've got to figure out the answer. How does it make you feel when like you see like simone byles. You know that the that people are publicly having being open about the mental strain and emotional strain and stress of being professional athletes. I think it's good. I think. I think it took a lot of courage. I also think she cared about the team to make sure they were gonna metal because if she stayed in it they were not going to so. I thought that was a great leadership moment. for her. I think it's good when we hear their truth. But i think we need to do a better job of of Like rookie school where we teach and tell them what it takes to be a professional athlete. But remember the gymnast with decked. There were very abused by their doctor. Remember dr nassar so that is so traumatic and when you get under any kind of stress like of course the competition and the olympics is that alone can be a trigger. That's going to set you off. In into mental challenges and emotional challenges so with gymnastics or so. Many women were abused by this horrible doctor. Dr nassar so i. I think he's as big an issue as the catholic church. I mean that was out of control. Create another place. I we think it's out of control. I'm not sure yet is cheerleading. So we need to really get in there and investigate that area as well. I'm just starting to hear rumbles and a lot of people are starting to come to me in the last two or three weeks saying if you think the gymnastics are bad disturbing terrible so we've got really pay attention to predators and people who are inappropriate and i think also like you know getting back to people you know In an identity. And i it's just that it seems to me that it w- especially with dr richard. You know when people meet people you know outside of the way they think about the idea or the issue you know something shifts and i think there's a lot of distance between people's ideas of what's right and wrong and who people are and who they actually are. I think that you by by stepping into that with renee richards. Y- you know you gave the culture the the opportunity to to to see her as a human and not an idea or a a moral problem. That's interesting because the women didn't want her. When i heard about her coming on they were like crazed. What about the locker room. What about this. I go everybody calm down. I'm gonna talk to doctors. You can do the same. And then i'm going to call. Rene and i went and talked to doctors. I dig hall. Rene rene and i had a four hour meeting. I listened to her stories. And i went to the doctors and i said she considered a woman or not and they said she is. I said that's all i need to know. Went back to the woman. And they're up in arms and i said okay. I was going to ask you to do one thing. I want you to accept her for at least two weeks on the tour. Okay and they all kind of calmed down. And they said okay. That's fair enough within two days of reneging on on the tour all the women company. She is so nice. She's the greatest and to your point. What you just talked about how you look at people differently once you get to know them and once the players are players got to know her then they just love. That was it done. That's great now last question. How are you treated like By these these new New these new champions in the williams sisters in particular happy. I'm known them since. This is scary. One thousand nine hundred eighty eight when there were seven eight years old actually in the book. There's a fodder photos of them allen them. You cannot believe this took three years. We've found these photos. And i kept saying the longest Press telegram was there that day after it was a long beach. California where i'm from and they live nearby and that's the day i met them when they're seventy eight so i have known them for since then they're wonderful. They were on the fed cup teams. I was captain which is the world cup teams of tennis from tennis. So i got to know them..
"billie jean king" Discussed on Squawk Pod
"Out. Some of these deadlines. It's not going to happen if he took that off. Do you think underneath would be one of the blue man from from that group or something or or maybe from From it wasn't him because he's a heavier set guy. What about daft punk. I'm told daft. Punk has a has a similar look. It's just so you know joe. My son one year for joe. One year for halloween. My son went in a more suit trick or treating. It's around this house somewhere. I may put it on the the best. I'm thinking slasher films. Never go out of style. That's a pretty scary looking ding there and member. I mean they got. They did the edward. Mooch scream mass. They made six movies after someone thought. Hey this'll be good to have a serial killer with that scream mask on so you can go a long way. Robot is built to be friendly and it's a robot that you can actually outrun. You can outrun this robot. Just in case you remember the asthma. You remember what speed is five miles per hour. Yeah just saying it's supposed to be safe. Does not guarantee and ai thing is going to be safe. Because they don't need us once they get really good at what they're doing the plaza and feeding things and excrement all the things that we do our week week. We are weak. We are weak. When they really get in charge and muskets greasing the skids towards our eventual probably obsolescence. But phil. thank you Speak for yourself right obsolescence. Maybe i know from where speak. But from whence i speak but the future is daunting as we hurdle towards it. Maybe we should have thought about genetic engineering a little bit to making any comment. I'm not making any comments next. Unsquashed pod icon. Champion trailblazer billie jean. King how she broke barriers in tennis and laid the foundation for women athletes everywhere all of us in our twenty s were willing to forego our careers for the future generations and the three things free considerations were that any girl in the world that she's good enough would have a place to compete never to we would be appreciated for accomplishments. Not only are looks and number three finally to make a living playing tennis less conversation. You'll only here on this podcast with our own. Joe kernan bellied superfan. Or do you want to. I'm recording all you off all that right after this. Cnbc's workforce executive council is the premier group of see suite human resources executives from leading companies across the country. It offers a members. Only portal and chat plus exclusive industry contact with access to breaking news calls and digital networking experiences the networking resources. Hr leaders need now. Apply to the workforce executive council at cnbc councils dot com slash w. We see welcome back to squawk pod. Joe kernan begi quick and andrew. Ross sorkin spoke this week to sports icon and thirty nine time grand slam tennis champion billie jean king. She's written a memoir about her pioneering life in sports and beyond and after the show. I heard a rumor. That for joe meeting is being recorded talking to billie jean king was emotional. Really emotional. so what are we gotta did so. I had to investigate broadcast news. Of course. yeah so you think. I'm like william perk billie jean Affects me so much she. She makes me remember he. He conjured up a tear but it was after he had already done the thin. So mine is live tonight. I know i was doing a record. This i'm recording. Yeah tell you absolutely okay good. So what do you wanna know billie. Jean king exploded onto popular culture with the battle of the sexes. A much publicized tennis exhibition match nearly fifty years ago hitting her against a former champion. Bobby riggs this. Material is from the nbc news. Archives rigs dancing unite kick line with cheerleaders sweaters his name and he and twenty nine year old billie. Jean answer questions from the press. Do everything on the tennis courts better than i can. But i don't think the she could stand up to the stretch strain and for the big man who put women down. Is that what you're saying. I'm doing all her credit for having all she sits politely. Actually in front of about a dozen. Nineteen seventies microphones and flashing cameras. Very well with a lot of girls timber nineteen seventy-three. Did you watch it. yeah. I watched it. I remember that. I was one of the ninety million I didn't remember why. I mean i thought it was given to police gene now when when when i didn't remember that. He had beaten margaret court margaret corey not enough and so it was not a slam. Dunk that billie jean was gonna missing. Also a wimbledon winner. I think it can be also won. Wimbledon is that true. Yeah his career in the thirty s and forty s was huge. Hope putting the tennis player it so to take on with with the entire feminist world basically on your shoulders i think that was more of the same the same pressure plus you know. He was a male chauvinist thing. He said that they know as i know. And as billie. Jean knows if there's no way a woman it can play tennis with. Hey coupon man tennessee total. I mean i was kind of stuff that went on back. Then so you know we come along and you know he derided her made fun and he was everything male chauvinist to asada fucking and so was a lot of drama a great You know sir the media to be able to promote and sell the biggest more than any story and mystery. Some final in professional tennis are mortified at the circus atmosphere surrounding this match but all the hoopla has done one thing. It has gotten a lot of people watching tennis. Jorge luis nbc news. Houston i don't like to get age and experience and miserable everything but in my lifetime there were separate lunch towns in the south. So when billie jean was coming through all these things are a lot of cultural. And societal things happening in the sixties and seventies and and i thought of her i guess is just a really tough minded tennis pro in and watched everything she went through and didn't realize the personal struggles that she was facing and i guess when you go through so much adversity and she did and and if you reaching there were plans where she was unable to stand up for what you believe because there was money involved in our sponsors in wall. G admits that she didn't feel comfortable with who she was. She was in her fifties. So you can imagine the struggles to twenty through her thirties forties and yet you still able. You know to be one of the greatest tennis player of all time. She really is iconic. That's why she gets mentioned. In the same vein. With mohammed ali or sports transit can transcend everything else. And you know just to come a really important. I don't know.
"billie jean king" Discussed on Fresh Air
"And when this lawsuit happened in now we've been together for forty two years in. It's worked out unbelievable. We're speaking with billie jean king. Her new memoir is called all in one or talk just a bit about tennis. You write about being good when you were young. You were really good on grass courts. Were there some that. You just didn't like playing on. I mean play wasn't exactly your specialty right well. We you weren't allowed. I wasn't that's another thing the. Usda used to control our lives. And i wanted to be in europe like after wimbledon. Stay on the red clay. Because i actually ended up loving ranked claim in the end. Because i finally got to play on it enough but growing up on hardcourts. All the tournaments seventy five percent of tournaments were played on grass when we were playing my generation so of course grass was you had to adapt to grass and the grass had horrible bounces because everyone always says why. Did you serve volley so much. Are you kidding. We didn't want the ball bounce. Whenever new kind of bounce we were going to get at least if the balls in the air when you hit it you had a better chance to control the ball so That's why we serve in bali so much On grass and the brackets were so heavy and cumbersome compared to today's rackets. Oh my gosh. The days rackets are just so much fun. I always think kind of. I could have had this racket when i was playing would have been so different and so much more fun but at you know we did the best we could. I mean iraq was thirteen and three quarter ounces. Which never play with now. It'd be much lighter and the aerodynamics with these new racquets strings all goodness the strings. That's all the players talk about now in the string so getting the street. All the crosses this way the net link that Whatever it's just different. It's not even the same. It's not an interest. It's apples and oranges. What are the interesting things. I find about talking to elite athletes in a sport that i played a little bit and i think this is true for a lot of people. It's fun to watch people who do something at a very high level that most of us have done at a pathetically low level. But i'm interested in what it felt like when you first said. Wow this is what i wanna do. Was it a hard for what what was the field that just said. Oh my heavens. This is transcendent e mean. The first first day. I was with clyde. You mean whenever it whenever you fell in love with it. Yeah that was the moment. Are you kidding. I liked it was susan williams. When we went out to hit. I liked it but after having my first my second time i picked up a racket was when i went out to seek Park that was a moment of truth for me. I just loved hitting the ball. You have to remember. I played shortstop and softball. And i started thinking. About how many times do i think. I touched the ball as a shortstop in baseball or saw and i'm going what six seven times game. Maybe and i'm like jewelry lies. I can hit a hundred tennis balls. I can touch the ball with strength hundred times in a few minutes. This is amazing but the moment of truth was that day in lamad californian houghton park Walker early instructor when you were kit..
"billie jean king" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Legend billie jean king. She has a new book called all in an autobiography. You are so candid and outspoken. So much of your life as an athlete and you tell some stories about your personal life in the book where you carried a lot of secrets for understandable reasons. I mean you were married. To larry king not the broadcaster larry king but Sounds like he was a really supportive partner of yours for a long long time. And but you develop a relationship with a woman maryland. Barnett which you felt. You had to keep this a secret. And i think given the day given the stakes that the way attitudes were at the time. It's not surprising given everything that you were doing that you you did. Keep it a secret but the relationship eventually soured. She occupied a house. She didn't want to move out of it..
"billie jean king" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Champions choke last year a horrible day at the office so i so bad but so it did t. s. up though i must say it up the women's movement title nine the year before all the things that i've been fighting forever equal opportunities boys and girls. He knows funny because everybody talks about how. This divided us actually brought everybody together. Did exactly what. I wanted it at all these parties. All these bets from people. Everybody was crazy at this time about this match what i wanted to ask you. Do you think bobby riggs really held strong about the role of women or was this just basically schtick that he developed to get a ten. I think a chauvinistic. I think he probably over the top for the match. But he's very kind person. But i think he's very chauvinist ethic was chauvinistic a great but a really nice chauvinist and he and i remained friends up until the day he died from prostate cancer. So the day. The match arrives and rigs enters accompanied by a bunch of young women. You enter like cleopatra carried on a train. Muscular guys obviously part of the show. Yeah you felt okay about that. I felt great because It's showtime and jerry. Perenco was quite sweet behind. You know before i came out he said i have this egyptian litter would do think he'd get in. I know you're feminist. You probably won't i said. Are you kidding it's showtime. This is perfect absolutely. I'll get up here. Let's have some fun you know. The crowd deserves a good show. Obviously i was about ready to die. Because i'm gonna win this match. I mean the re you know the reality of it. But i also your fans always come first so I said no. I'll get on there and he fainted. He said you will. I said yes. Of course i will showtime. Let's hear a little bit of showtime here up. I want to listen to a little bit of howard. Cosell district your entrance. Let's listen to this headline monday night. Football it's not the usual at that ms van happening. Come billy team. Perry attractive young mighty. He ever remind her grow downward shoulder sucker glances office. You'd have some funny fine from hollywood spring..
"billie jean king" Discussed on Fresh Air
"I'm dave davies in for terry gross. Who's off this week. When my guest tennis legend billie jean king captured the wimbledon women's doubles title at the age of seventeen. She got a trophy and a chance to curtsy before the royal family but no prize money today that championship comes with hundreds of thousands of dollars in winnings and a good part of the reason is billie jean king herself when she was in her. Twenty s king organized other top women players in the game to take on the tennis establishment and win recognition and pay for their efforts. A high risk undertaking. The changed tennis forever. That's among the events. King recounts in a new memoir along with some of her thirty nine grand slam championships. Her activism for women and lgbtq rights and some joyous and painful chapters in her personal life including a closeted lesbian relationship. That burst into public view with a lawsuit. Billie jean king also co-founded world team tennis and in two thousand nine was the first female athlete to receive the presidential medal of freedom. Her new book is all in an autobiography. We're going to listen to a new interview. I've just recorded with billie jean king. But i will begin with the event. She's probably best known for the so called battle of the sexes. Match with self-proclaimed male chauvinist. Bobby riggs in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy three king described the experience in an interview in two thousand thirteen rigs former tennis champion had challenged king to an exhibition match after defeating another women's tennis player. Margaret court king accepted and the match was played in the astrodome and seen by a tv audience. Estimated at ninety million people will begin with an excerpt from an american masters documentary about king. This deals with the hype leading up to the match will hear king and bobby riggs talking to reporters and at the end of bit of bobby on the tonight show with johnny carson. I think that. I can think bobby wouldn't make i.
"billie jean king" Discussed on Around the Horn
"Kind kind of good type of thing and Empathy i hope. Yeah those are good ones. And who should i have on the podcast. It doesn't matter what industry they're from what they do. They are just someone. I would find interesting. Had julie foudy. I have found as the best ship. That's right you did have. I've actually read that did you have you had If you had a socket yet. No but i would love to. So that's gonna. I think that'll be a wrong. Probably gotten hey. Thank you so much for doing this. This is so fantastic. Talk to you. I could've talked to you for hours longer. But great congratulations on your career. So far you're still young very young though Do you have a dream at all like beyond what if you had the one you can have. What would it be. I'm not very good at that. Unfortunately okay well still weren't gonna yeah good working on the dream. It keeps changing. It used to be to have my own Like kind of late night. Tv show kind of thing. But i think it's it's steve. It's getting a lot bigger. Yeah like steve bear. It's getting a lot bigger to two things that involve big picture. Other people change. As i get older i think is a good sign about me more about we like you said yeah. I think the we is really important when people start to think about things and it makes it more fun. Yeah totally more fun than anything for sure. Oh it's just more fun to be with. Well if you love people. I love people so yeah well. Thank you so much for doing this. I know you're busy and appreciate so much time and for setting it up all right. Thanks a lot. they're good to you. The future yeah for sure at a at a red stars angel city game. Yeah right going. That's what she said. Oh yeah one more thing. This is a place for ransom or raves. Or to tell you to read something. Watch something Check some out. Whatever's on my mind and i think it's quite clear what's on my mind. Go read billie. Jean king's book all in it's out now. What a powerhouse. What a force we. Men women nine binary people as she mentioned. She's led all of us and we owe her a debt of gratitude and we all heard the drive and passion to take up her causes and keep the ball moving in the right direction. Eventually she will run out of time. We need to use our limited time to keep pushing and fighting the way she has since she was twelve years old. For the things that matter. Most what acquaint you can always tweet me at sarahspain. If you've got guest suggestions questions or more you should always go to the. I tunes or podcast. App subscribed it. That's what she said. Was sarah spain rated five stars please and give review. Thanks as always lasting about an hour with me. That's what she said..
"billie jean king" Discussed on Around the Horn
"Discipline hide sometimes and yet yet i feel just the opposite switch goes on actually i love to perform. Its when you come off the court. He gets a shy. But you're saying what am. I won't embarrassed. Yeah like usually people remember some i. I think what they're pets bidding. I don't know but well i didn't do that. Came close go for you. I think for me. It's when it's been public. I've had to deal with personal stuff. It's yeah it's rough. It's disrup- i can't i i don't know if embarrasses quite Were though probably is though number seven. What's the thing about yourself. You most like to improve. Get rid of like especially if i'm talking to another person. Get rid of being such a perfectionist. Just try to back up. You know backup just go softer. Because sometimes i get boom. I want to go for it. Let's go and i think But i also know what i've done my best. Is it that happy medium type of thing. I don't know that one. what's that one again. I'm here. I said them yourself. You'd most like to improve. Write down come up with the perfect answer and then call me back crew. Yeah approve onto be able how. 'bout eat less. I love to eat. Man i love. I love my shug. Gosh i'm not going off of it. I've decided to not doing it. I had my steve bali pops. I love at number eight any musician or band alive or dead can play at your next party. Who is it always helped him because he's a good friend. Elton john while i was gonna say earlier your favorite words freedom and very few of the guests on my show. I would imagine a song written after them by elton john evolving their favorite word philadelphia freedom. Liberty impressive pretty impressive beatty. Great became number one and crossed over into r&b became number. One and elton was so excited. Because i are and be number one. I think it's the first one extra over. He was so excited. I would love trivia question to be what nup former number one. Aren song was inspired by billie jean king. That's such a very very special way. You got therapy on it. You number nine. Would you consider your biggest failure. I don't think of failure failure..
"billie jean king" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain
"You are free to make has consequences for others to. It's an important part of freedom. Speaking a great words today the word of the week is shout out to at a dubs junior on twitter for bringing me this week's magic word of the week capitalism a word that changes its meaning. And sometimes it's pronunciation when the first letters capitalized. So for instance couple examples march capital m. is the third month of the year whereas march lower cases the action of walking briskly in rhythm or walking in protest Lower case lent is part of the verb lend. A capital lent is a period just before easter. A hamlet is a small town capital. Hamlet a play by william shakespeare. You get the picture. Maybe another example polish capital p. Somebody from poland lower case polish the action of shining the surface of something or the substance use to shine it which leads me to a true story which also happens to be the word in a sentence not yet aware of the existence of contra names. Young sarahspain asked her mother. If they're polish cleaning lady would be offended by the bottle of polish remover on the bathroom counter. Now let's get back to the interview. Let's go back to that word. You mentioned freedom because it's not just about freedom for yourself it's about how you choose to use your freedom and what choices you can make to help others right. As children grow up. Wants them to think. I'll be on themselves. And that's in some ways i. It's so interesting with social media. How branding has become so important. And that's the word i mean. Some of the people i listened to. It's is this and i won. That and i did this. I'm like excuse me. I know you're telling me about your bran but i need to know something else. Besides what are you want. what do you want for the world when you want. I hear what you want for yourself. So it's very good but on the other hand because of social media and the kids are so great young people think about others a lot. I mean look at the protests. Look at the. You know the inclusion of the protest because of social media. Because people. I mean when i was their age we didn't have that we had to get the media on our sides. We had nothing and even this day to this day. Ninety five percent of the media controlled by men so it's tough at the traditional. So but i'm very thankful to the traditional media to the photographers. The tv people the broadcast people. Be you know Just everyone you actually told our story when we're starting the women's professional tennis and if we didn't have that we wouldn't have made it so very indebted to them as well. I often talk about that. Actually that there's Obviously so many drawbacks to the internet. But one of the better ones One of the better things about it is it removes the necessity of gatekeepers at every level of what gets hurt and the stories get told because it isn't up to editors of newspapers or program directors at radio stations to decide who gets a voice. Because if your.
"billie jean king" Discussed on Around the Horn
"You are free to make has consequences for others to. It's an important part of freedom. Speaking a great words today the word of the week is shout out to at a dubs junior on twitter for bringing me this week's magic word of the week capitalism a word that changes its meaning. And sometimes it's pronunciation when the first letters capitalized. So for instance couple examples march capital m. is the third month of the year whereas march lower cases the action of walking briskly in rhythm or walking in protest Lower case lent is part of the verb lend. A capital lent is a period just before easter. A hamlet is a small town capital. Hamlet a play by william shakespeare. You get the picture. Maybe another example polish capital p. Somebody from poland lower case polish the action of shining the surface of something or the substance use to shine it which leads me to a true story which also happens to be the word in a sentence not yet aware of the existence of contra names. Young sarahspain asked her mother. If they're polish cleaning lady would be offended by the bottle of polish remover on the bathroom counter. Now let's get back to the interview. Let's go back to that word. You mentioned freedom because it's not just about freedom for yourself it's about how you choose to use your freedom and what choices you can make to help others right. As children grow up. Wants them to think. I'll be on themselves. And that's in some ways i. It's so interesting with social media. How branding has become so important. And that's the word i mean. Some of the people i listened to. It's is this and i won. That and i did this. I'm like excuse me. I know you're telling me about your bran but i need to know something else. Besides what are you want. what do you want for the world when you want. I hear what you want for yourself. So it's very good but on the other hand because of social media and the kids are so great young people think about others a lot. I mean look at the protests. Look at the. You know the inclusion of the protest because of social media. Because people. I mean when i was their age we didn't have that we had to get the media on our sides. We had nothing and even this day to this day. Ninety five percent of the media controlled by men so it's tough at the traditional. So but i'm very thankful to the traditional media to the photographers. The tv people the broadcast people. Be you know Just everyone you actually told our story when we're starting the women's professional tennis and if we didn't have that we wouldn't have made it so very indebted to them as well. I often talk about that. Actually that there's Obviously so many drawbacks to the internet. But one of the better ones One of the better things about it is it removes the necessity of gatekeepers at every level of what gets hurt and the stories get told because it isn't up to editors of newspapers or program directors at radio stations to decide who gets a voice. Because if your voice is loud and strong enough it'll get amplified by the rest of the people and that allows some of those people who have not been heard from before and to your point does not require the the people in the mainstream media. But it's hard. Yeah well the hard part is getting it known of so much information. Now in so many podcast. So many there's so many that Who do i listen to. I've only got twenty four hours a day. What is your and i'm in. Unfortunately.
"billie jean king" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain
"A little bit like that. It's that we need. I think we all need more information. And i wanna listen to trans athletes. I want listen to trans people. They are the ones experience it now rene along with martina. Dr richards And she's she's my off bala just by the way andy is my smallest. She's eight she's retired basically with still works one day awaiting in upstate new york so we still go to her and we love her. She's a great friend Which she went along with you. I'm not so sure. She really looked. I don't know. I don't know but she said well. What five and younger and you've got to you have to be off of this You go through this transition lease for years to be. You shouldn't do that just well. i've been younger. I would have killed all of you. You know i would have beat you so badly. And i'm like i'm listening. This is so. I'm listening because i'm always trying to learn. I don't know what the right answer is. I do talk to a scientist katrina. What's in carson in san francisco. I'm always asking. How's it going. But they've done studies quite frankly where men who have won. Gold medals at the at the olympics would would be considered on their testosterone levels with considered female. So i think the the howie mental the the metabolism a just austrian the metabolism of every other part of us it. I think there's way too much testosterone as the ultimate decider in someone's ability and science case. Otherwise yeah well. I didn't actor but it's not It's not a it's rail right right and also we only assign that arbitrary number to decide when a woman has passed over into no longer being woman enough to compete. We never care. A man has enough natural testosterone when everything it's because we want to set barriers what women can achieve but we're always amazed and delighted at the heights that men can reach but with women. It's always the be right. Something must be wrong. Let's go and we so people wanna keep us down a lot and they shouldn't do that because you know the the brain power the the greatest natural resource we have.
"billie jean king" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain
"I hate the word amateur. If you're going to get paid and we were getting fourteen dollars a day or twenty eight and then sometimes we get money under the table. So i got in trouble because we fought firm or i did and i was yelling because by now number one in sixty like sixty six sixty seven. We went pro tennis. Start in sixty eight a so Espn hasn't started yet. That was seventy. Was that seventy five seventy six. I was pretty much finished by the time. They got started But no it was a long haul but it was getting people together in. It was a lot of sources. But there's something out on audible call the dollar rebellions about the nine of us. Nine recall original nine. We just got inducted into the hall of fame tennis international tennis fame last week and rats that was so great because all we had seven out of nine there and all of us are still alive but the thing is we are the we are the reason. There is women's professional tennis today. We are the reason. Tennis is the leader. We're still relevant that moment when we signed a one dollar contract with buying salman who is published her tennis magazi- without that moment when his tennis would not be worried. Is the reason osaka Naomi who's playing you know. She's the reason she made. Fifty five million dollars last year is because of that one dollar contract okay. i it's totally connected. Okay quick aside here We'll get right back to the interview for those who aren't familiar with the original nine and that one dollar deal in short billy and eight other players signed with publisher and promoter gladys helmet in nineteen seventy to form a separate women's tennis tour which led to the founding of the women's tennis association in nineteen seventy-three and it was then nearly fifty years ago that billy successfully pushed the us open to start offering equal prize money to women a half century ago again. I'm telling you this woman was demanding. What was fair and equal you. Look at tennis. you'll get the way women are embrace. Supported beloved are an equal if not bigger at times to the men and meanwhile the nc double a. is still trying to defend undervaluing. The women's college basketball tourney by one hundred million dollars a year. I mean back to that time thing we talked about. I wish that billy was seventeen again. So she could spend another lifetime pushing for that same parody inequality across all sports like she didn't tennis. It's unbelievable anyway back to the interview. Alana naira working in other sports are company. Billie jean king enterprises also doing deion i for companies which were doing a lot trying to go in and look at the culture of companies for instance at work Forty six percent of you know our my community engagement of the lgbtq. Plus you know a. I whatever it's like forty six percent of it still are in the closet at work and if you cannot be your authentic self you don't get as much done. You're always tense. I mean i was tense. I had a terrible A terrible journey with my sexuality was terrible. It was like. I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and now today when people come out celebrated and i'm like i'm so excited because finally it's okay. It wasn't okay. I got i got killed. I lost all. My sponsorship was called horrible. I was. I lost a lot of money. I lost a lot of money. That would not happen today. In fact probably would make money today so because of it. And so i love it you know now. I make money because i'm a lesbian. Sometimes i think we need a win for the lgbtq community..
"billie jean king" Discussed on Around the Horn
"I hate the word amateur. If you're going to get paid and we were getting fourteen dollars a day or twenty eight and then sometimes we get money under the table. So i got in trouble because we fought firm or i did and i was yelling because by now number one in sixty like sixty six sixty seven. We went pro tennis. Start in sixty eight a so Espn hasn't started yet. That was seventy. Was that seventy five seventy six. I was pretty much finished by the time. They got started But no it was a long haul but it was getting people together in. It was a lot of sources. But there's something out on audible call the dollar rebellions about the nine of us. Nine recall original nine. We just got inducted into the hall of fame tennis international tennis fame and rats that was so great because all we had seven out of nine there and all of us are still alive but the thing is we are the we are the reason. There is women's professional tennis today. We are the reason. Tennis is the leader. We're still relevant that moment when we signed a one dollar contract with salman who is published her tennis magazi- without that moment when his tennis would not be worried. Is the reason osaka naomi who's playing you know. She's the reason she made. Fifty five million dollars last year is because of that one dollar contract okay. i it's totally connected. Okay quick aside here We'll get right back to the interview for those who aren't familiar with the original nine and that one dollar deal in short billy and eight other players signed with publisher and promoter gladys helmet in nineteen seventy to form a separate women's tennis tour which led to the founding of the women's tennis association in nineteen seventy-three and it was then nearly fifty years ago that billy successfully pushed the us open to start offering equal prize money to women a half century ago again. I'm telling you this woman was demanding. What was fair and equal you. Look at tennis. you'll get the way. Women are embrace supported beloved or an equal if not bigger at times to the men and meanwhile the nc double a. is still trying to defend undervaluing. The women's college basketball tourney by one hundred million dollars a year. I mean back to that time thing we talked about. I wish that billy was seventeen again. So she could spend another lifetime pushing for that same parody inequality across all sports like she didn't tennis. It's unbelievable anyway back to the interview. Alana naira working in other sports. Our company billie jean king enterprises also doing deion i for companies which were doing a lot trying to go in and look at the culture of companies for instance at work Forty six percent of you know our my community engagement of the lgbtq. Plus you know a. I whatever it's like forty six percent of it still are in the closet at work and if you cannot be your authentic self you don't get as much done. You're always tense. I mean i was tense. I had a terrible A terrible journey with my sexuality was terrible. It was like. I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and now today when people come out celebrated and i'm like hey i'm so excited because finally it's okay. It wasn't okay. I got i got killed. I lost all. My sponsorship was called horrible. I was. I lost a lot of money. I lost a lot of money. That would not happen today. In fact probably would make money today so because of it. And so i love it you know now. I make money because i'm a lesbian. Sometimes i think we need a win for the lgbtq community. Come in dog do a conversation. And if you wanna look at look at my journey versus every you know. Each person's got their own journey. That it was terrible and it. Can you imagine the the generations before me and the people shoulders. I stand on. I can't i just can't fathom how hard it must have been. I don't want to ask about that. Because i was reading that it. It wasn't even really your your choice right so two things was a well. You're you're you're i'll tell you i was outed. But yeah or that. During the seventies when i was trying to figure things out i was told if i say one thing we will not have a tour Okay so when you're told you're not even going to have a women's professional store if you start to speak out that's that's not just about me anymore. That is about all of us. So i had that as well coming at me. Plus the culture of the time was not very accepting in fact not at all in fact even the psychologist psychiatry community. didn't say we're okay until like about seventy five. I think in the book. Eighty four seventy five in. There have gotten my book So we weren't considered okeydokey or considered like something wasn't right or deviant. That's such an incredibly personal thing to come to terms with and then to wanna share with people and i and there were two moments in your life. That really stood out to me. That weren't your choice. One was your your husband sharing with ms magazine that you had had abortion yet comes out in the magazine as as this female empowerment thing. But it wasn't your choice to tell them that and then a decade later. You're still dealing with this in that you become the first prominent female professional athlete to come out but not because of choice because of an issue with the former girlfriend who was you know a lawsuit or whatever so now you have these two incredible moments where you're publicly talking about things that there's going to be a lot of consternation and and perhaps criticism and neither were by choice. How do you have the strength to react in those moments and and take control of your own story with difficulty. I.
"billie jean king" Discussed on That's What She Said with Sarah Spain
"Sports foundation part of the ownership group of the dodgers sparks an angel city f c. In september of twenty twenty. She became the first woman to have an annual global team. Sports event named in her honour when fed cup. The women's world cup of tennis was rebranded as the billie jean king cup. The national tennis center home of the us open was renamed. The usda billie jean king national tennis center in two thousand six in two thousand seventeen. You saw the film battle of the sexes. Depicting the cultural and social impact of her match with bobby riggs in two thousand eighteen. She were served a lifetime. Achievement award is part of the prestigious bbc sports personality of the year awards. Two thousand nineteen her California roots were recognized with the billie. Jean king main library in her hometown of long beach. Twenty twenty she got her own barbie doll as part of the mattel inspiring women series. Twenty twenty one. She received the laureus lifetime achievement award. She's on the board for the women sports foundation. She's an adidas global ambassador. Pass member of the board of the elton john aids foundation pass member of the presidential council on fitness sports nutrition and she has a new book out now today written with john howard and marianne vollers called all in an autobiography. I didn't even touch on so many other things. I could one of the greatest tennis players of all time. A true change maker a legend ledge and we could have talked forever Her memory incredible the color of reverse tennis racket dates of important moments remembering a twelve years. Old this epiphany that she had about the elitist and racist patriarchy of the tennis world and why she wanted to change it We also talked about how. Our ex-husband larry king. Who is not that. Larry king was able to help her see the inequities for women and fight for more at a very young age. How coming to terms with her sexuality and coming out with so difficult for her things you've never heard like her desire to be best friends with snoop dogg and the former number one..
"billie jean king" Discussed on Around the Horn
"I love these. But i like these seventeen and have all this knowledge and all this experience and then let's go change that keep changing. Well billy. i can't imagine how it must feel in your seventies and for someone as accomplished as you are because i already feel that way now And you know at the deepest levels. I felt that especially last year during the conversations. Post george floyd That sort of combined with my reaction to reading glennon. Doyle's untamed there was just so much swirling in my head about the ways that i'd been conditioned to see race or gender all sorts of other things and the ways the systems of our society were built to hold back the marginalized and keep white men in power to limit women and people of color and lgbtq plus people people have certain religions all the ways that we've sort of been discouraged from asking questions digging deeper were seeking change from the way things have always been done and i wanted to go back to being a teenager. I wanted to be armed with my thirty. Something a piff unease about life about inequalities and injustice and it made me angry that it was taking me so long to get around to really better understanding these things to listening to the right people to reading the right things and it made me so frustrated on behalf of the people who are doing the work every day to make change in terms of equality across gender race religion. Everything else that. It feels like each generation. Some has to start fresh. There is a movement forward every day And that is reflected when these bursts of news or moments violence or otherwise sort of get us really invested in talking about it again. But it's not enough. We still take those steps back and restarting spaces. That we shouldn't have to go back to and part of that. Is generations learning about these things later in life and then the system and society. And the way we've always done. Things is indoctrinated whole nother generation of young people until they age into releasing things for what they are and i wish we could start younger so man it is just so difficult for people to see that endorsing the status quo pushing back on a change. That's wanted reacting negatively to the people who looked to open up your eyes now for better. That's as much of an agenda as the activists in change makers that are so often painted as rebellious or outrageous or even unhinged her unwell. Just for having an agenda that calls for change and wanting to rethink what's always been done People who want the status quo have as much of an agenda. We just don't know how to talk about the same way that choice to be neutral or silent and support. What is instead of what could be we just. We don't address it. And you know also heartbreaking in terms of time is. There's just not enough time to read all the books or here all the music. See all the places meet. All the people taste all the foods. So i have to say i don't. I don't have a solution for our lack of time but i do have some perspective on it and i would say we. We suffer from the blessing of being optimistic and happy enough to see every minute on this earth as a gift and to wish for endless more of it and you know for some people life is about powering through even though you know there's inevitable suffering and pain and and through no fault of their own a lot of people Life is really hard and so it's about finding the joy to keep you pushing through and for the lucky ones. It's about the joy of every moment and empowering through even though you know there's endless moments of happiness we won't have time for and what a great gift to want for more So no solution but just perspective. That's what she said. I usually keep my guest bios. Pretty short But i want us all the truly recognized. The accomplishments of this week's guest. Billie jean king you can hear the name of course conjure up all of the winds and acclaim and activism. But i guarantee you. There are things that would top anyone's resume the very top of their resume. That you don't even know. Billie jean king can boast So here's the short version. It's still quite long but she deserves it named one of the one hundred most important americans of the twentieth century by life magazine two thousand nine recipient of the presidential medal of freedom. She's the founder of the billie jean king leadership initiative founder of the women's tennis association wti founder of the women's sports foundation part of the ownership group of the dodgers sparks an angel city f c. In september of twenty twenty. She became the first woman to have an annual global team. Sports event named in her honour when fed cup. The women's world cup of tennis was rebranded as the billie jean king cup. The national tennis center home of the us open was renamed. The usda billie jean king national tennis center in two thousand six in two thousand seventeen. You saw the film battle of the sexes. Depicting the cultural and social impact of her match with bobby riggs in two thousand eighteen. She were served a lifetime. Achievement award is part of the prestigious bbc sports personality of the year awards. Two thousand nineteen her California roots were recognized with the billie. Jean king main library in her hometown of long beach. Twenty twenty she got her own barbie doll as part of the mattel inspiring women series. Twenty twenty one. She received the laureus lifetime achievement award. She's on the board for the women sports foundation. She's an adidas global ambassador. Pass member of the board of the elton john aids foundation pass member of the presidential council on fitness sports nutrition and she has a new book out now today written with john howard and marianne vollers called all in an autobiography. I didn't even touch on so many other things. I could one of the greatest tennis players of all time. A true change maker a legend ledge and we could have talked forever Her memory incredible the color of reverse tennis racket dates of important moments remembering a twelve years. Old this epiphany that she had about the elitist and racist patriarchy of the tennis world and why she wanted to change it We also talked about how. Our ex-husband larry king. Who is not that. Larry king was able to help her see the inequities for women and fight for more at a very young age. How coming to terms with her sexuality and coming out with so difficult for her things you've never heard like her desire to be best friends with snoop dogg and the former number one. R&b song that she inspired. Her book is over. Four hundred page long so you know that this interview could have gone on for hours. We got him what we could fit in. Hope you enjoy it. That's what she said. Let's start at the beginning. I know you grew up in a family that was really into sports. He actually played football growing up But i read that. Your mom wanted you to try something more ladylike. We're playing football on the front you know. And we played in the street in those days.
"billie jean king" Discussed on LGBTQ&A
"Something that we don't know anything about you know with the olympics or the battle of the sexes match or even like a wimbledon. There's so much pressure to play these to win to advance the next round but you also got in the sport because you enjoyed it at that level. Are you still like enjoying it as a still fun. I think i have the same pressures of privilege. I started this that saying if anybody ever. Here's i kind of came up with that one. When lent lindsay davenport was fed cup. Choose the world. The world cup of women's tennis she said help. I've got to play this player. I hate planner. I and it is kinda like yeller pressure. Privileged i went. Oh i'm going to hold onto those i like. She's okay and then she went won the match so she was always really happy about that. But that's where that that's how that it just came out of my brain just like instantaneously and i liked it but you know as a child. My brother and i liked pressure. But i think it's because my parents gave us time and space. They did not care for any good like they didn't ask us. Did you win. You know parents go. did you win well. That's not a good way to start with the kids. Don't don't say did you win. Del tell you how they did. Believe me whether they get a good grade or whether the in sports whatever but branding are so we just loved what we did we still just. I just loved hitting a tennis ball. And i didn't. I didn't hit a tennis ball. Probably for twenty five years. I've had a lot of knee operations shore. And i started playing last october. I said delana would you 'cause laws one player in the world in doubles number. One south african. Anybody that's come from south africa. It's always very interesting. And she's jewish. So i think she always felt very connected to freedom so anyway she still plays a lot. Lawn is still plays lodge. Plays great she. I think she's playing better now than when she played on the tour. Almost so now i said would you hit the ball on me one day and we we've been hitting ever since in fact we're gonna hit later today problem so i loved hit the ball. I love the magic of feeling the ball against the strings. I love the way you shape times bays. It's like dance to me. Although i can't dance anymore. Because i go one one step to the right one step to the laugh. I guess that's a little start to dance. So seventy seven you still love tennis I always loved it. There's no way. I could have gotten through all the pressures on and off for him. I had loved it. i love it. I love hitting the ball and love playing sports but realize the first day i played tennis is what i realized. I play shortstop softball. I've played other sports. I can hit a hundred balls in five to ten minutes and touch the ball. How many times do you think you touch the ball and you play baseball or softball. You you hardly touch of what's five times. If you're shortstop in a game five times in tennis i can hit a hundred in the same amount of time or five hundred actually is baseball so and i love all these sports. But i'm just telling you what tennis has done for me. And they did. Research in tennis has come out number one as far as the healthiest is. Could you use all of yourself. You use your upper and lower bodies and during kobe. Did we have four million new people. Because of social distancing you can do with it as well on each side of the net. I'm so happy. The one thing i have i have not done as i thought during covert i would practice the piano again. Because that's why i love back as a kid didn't i don't have it as far as being really good. I have not done that. But i've actually started. Take photos just from the apartment in new york. They have a nice view. But it's photography like this next phase of your life like something. You're gonna be trying. I don't know. I like the moon in the sun so much because i know this is corny. I don't care because i like love. And is that all of us. Look at the same moon and sun every day so i feel very connected to people when i look at them. I think that corn is a great place to leave it. I've really enjoyed this. So thank you so much really totally. I would much rather interview. You actually interest reconfirms around. You impress me. And that was billie jean king. Her new book is out now. And it's called all in and stay tuned for next week because we really back with darryl stevens these star of noah's ark. We're living in. The era of people are undetectable. And when i was thirty two. That was not a thing when i was twenty two. We were terrified. We were wearing gone like you didn't touch anything or anybody. Without a calm. It was terrifying at that age. So that's next tuesday. If you've not yet subscribed please do so. You do not miss it and as always if you enjoyed this interview. Please help us. 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"billie jean king" Discussed on LGBTQ&A
"When billie jean king was just twelve years old she picked up a tennis racket for the first time in decided that she wanted to be the number one player in the world and as you know to fast forward to the end of the story that is exactly what she did with thirty nine grand slam career titles to rename. She's considered the mother of modern sports. She didn't just change tennis. She changed all sports for all people. Which by the way was the plan from the beginning. It was another thing. She looked around again at twelve years. Old and decided. I was just daydreaming. One day and realize that everybody who played cass before white shoes and white woes play with white balls and everybody who played was white. And i asked myself where everybody else so that was my moment that i dedicate the rest of my life to fighting for equality everything. I've done go back to that moment. Epiphany at twelve years old along the way the fight free quality led her to the feigned battle of the sexes. that was her. Nineteen seventy-three tennis match against bobby riggs. An estimated fifty million people worldwide watched billie jean king win that day and it's considered a milestone in terms of the public acceptance of female athletes and a victory for the women's rights movement and general. Today at seventy. Seven years. Old billie. Jean king remains a fierce advocate for gender equality and. She's just published an autobiography. That is called all in. And it's out now from the advocate magazine in partnership with lad. I'm jeffrey masters and this is lgbtq. A with billie jean king so just as we often say how much has changed for queer people in the last fifty years your bookers reminder that that statement is also true for women and your case being a woman and a professional tennis player wasn't even a career path that existed. So when you were starting out how are you thinking about what was possible for a career in tennis. I played team sports as child. I in a lot of people may or may not know my younger brother. Randy moffett moderates are birth. Name became a major league baseball player. So sports is in our blood. I dad was a good athlete. My mother was good athlete. So susan williams in fifth grade asked me. If i wanted to play tennis and i said what's tennis i thought i would probably wouldn't play because she played the country. Calm and my dad's a firefighter. Aside well this is an my realm of thinking. I've also played on the softball team and she told the coach. She'd taking me out to play tennis and she said oh they give free instruction here on tuesdays applied walker. And it's free coaching. While i go out to have my first session with clyde and at the end of it i knew i wanted to be the number one tessler in the world but then was amateur and i didn't like that because i grew up around pro sports pro met. You're really good at what you did and amateur. Music was a hobby so one of the first things. I wanted to change sport. As far as being a professional sport it were none really no options as a child for girls and today there's still many more options for boys. What really happened though. What really changed my life. My epiphany was when i was twelve. I was just daydream. One day and realize that everybody who played tennis for white shoes and white clothes play with white balls and everybody who played was white. And i asked myself whereas everybody else. Where is everyone else. So that was my moment that i dedicate the rest of my life to fighting for equality for everyone everything i've done. We'll go back to that moment. That epiphany twelve years old. And you know few short years after that at seventeen years old you go onto win wimbledon with your partner karen haunts and you're the youngest tennis team to ever win wimbledon and the doubles. We still hold that. It's care enhance actually enhance. But i love the way you say. I like that. It's kind of more grand. you know. it's the gallic. I like it. I love the story though because after you come back from winning the linden at seventeen rather than going to train full time like you would today you go to college and you live at home and this is the part. I was particularly fascinated by you. Got a couple of part time jobs including one as a locker room attendant where you make a dollar fifteen. An hour to full towels. I don't know my ego could handle that high and low of winning wimbledon and being paid a dollar fifteen. What was going to your mind at that point. My parents didn't care for any good. They always said your health and education. The two most important things in so we were. I think trying to please mom and dad a lot here for randy going to college. He would be seen by the scouts. That does not happen in a girl's world. It's like what and no one even noticed so it was just kind of like the way the world works at that point for you does work that way. It's still does a lot in a lot of wage dominant group knows very little about non groups and this is where our lgbt two plus community comes in in that the more you know someone the better you know someone usually the more you like them. You feel comfortable with them. But first we have to feel comfortable in our own skin. I think the more comfortable we are when we talked to somebody. I think helps put people at ease. Of course i didn't probably realize realize At a younger age. I think it really helps like it's just a matter of fact going for that i didn't realize until reading your book. What a long process. It was for you to become comfortable talking about it. You write that. You gotta churning in your gut when you have to talk about being a lesbian. Is that still true today. No i wouldn't say so much now. No occasionally i'll get a from the past. I'll get gut reaction. But i also think it depends on the audience. You're around that you can kind of size up things very quickly. So how long did that churning last in your stomach. I wasn't comfortable until i was fifty one. That's a long haul. I felt very straight as a young person. I had no idea i mean. I feel like men's bodies. Probably on the look out when someone walks in the room the emotional stuff for me and i like being a gay woman because i talked to my friends. I love the word. Gay gets means happy. And i like happy happy. Happy and lesbian is okay. But i don't. I don't get the same fun from that word that i get from being a gay woman i dislike it because it just feels happy and like i think we should be happy and can be happy. I don't know it just feels good to me. Yeah it's fun you know. If you weren't outed back in nineteen eighty-one putting yourself back in that mindset in time period if you weren't outed or hopeless say or predict when you might have come out have no idea but if you sent the same in the seventy s. No one had come out yet. Glenn burke was a dodger he was gay. The media knew it but never wrote about it. I think i was the first one that was outed in eighty one and i told the truth which might p. r. p. Did not my lawyer did not want me to say. And i said now i'm going to tell the truth. Oh my god just a knock down drag out fight over the phone. And i mean just hours hours hours and i said no.
Interview With Tennis Legend, Billie Jean King
"So just as we often say how much has changed for queer people in the last fifty years your bookers reminder that that statement is also true for women and your case being a woman and a professional tennis player wasn't even a career path that existed. So when you were starting out how are you thinking about what was possible for a career in tennis. I played team sports as child. I in a lot of people may or may not know my younger brother. Randy moffett moderates are birth. Name became a major league baseball player. So sports is in our blood. I dad was a good athlete. My mother was good athlete. So susan williams in fifth grade asked me. If i wanted to play tennis and i said what's tennis i thought i would probably wouldn't play because she played the country. Calm and my dad's a firefighter. Aside well this is an my realm of thinking. I've also played on the softball team and she told the coach. She'd taking me out to play tennis and she said oh they give free instruction here on tuesdays applied walker. And it's free coaching. While i go out to have my first session with clyde and at the end of it i knew i wanted to be the number one tessler in the world but then was amateur and i didn't like that because i grew up around pro sports pro met. You're really good at what you did and amateur. Music was a hobby so one of the first things. I wanted to change sport. As far as being a professional sport it were none really no options as a child for girls and today there's still many more options for boys. What really happened though. What really changed my life. My epiphany was when i was twelve. I was just daydream. One day and realize that everybody who played tennis for white shoes and white clothes play with white balls and everybody who played was white. And i asked myself whereas everybody else. Where is everyone else. So that was my moment that i dedicate the rest of my life to fighting for equality for everyone everything i've done. We'll go back to that moment. That epiphany twelve years old.
Aubrey Marcus on Owning Your Day, Owning Your Life
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Fed Cup to be renamed Billie Jean King Cup
"The Fed Cup has been renamed the Billie Jean King Cup and there's those big plan fair announcements about this week and it's a lovely lovely thing I think it feels so so right there is I think one caveat David that you pointed out on twitter which. Which I very much agree with. How How how much does it really? Well first of all, I agree with you I think I'm ready that it's been renamed. That's The. Caveat was the if we are renaming the Fed, cut the Billie Jean King Cup. It feels even further away that we're GONNA end up having the the great mixed team competition or Fit Slam slammers I'd love it to be. A combination of the Fed Cup or the Billie Jean King Cup in Davis. Cup, that I think the sports so. Hugely needs that feels further away. But maybe maybe that's maybe that's not the case. Maybe the fact that her name is on it and she is may be involved more. We'll bring that closer together because she so much wants that is well, she's. The biggest campaign for. Men and women working together and and being on the same page and being on the same bill for goodness sake. and. Hopefully. That will come in the future I mean. There are those events just don't exist this year. So this is the news news, the renaming, and and that alone really really about just one article Chris Clare in the New York Times right timing done an interview it but a Jianqing, I really enjoy a recommended he coach Bud Collins. Once. Saying that the Fed Cup is a splendid idea with a lame name and he quotes spitting Jean King saying. When a woman does something always think we do it for women when a guy does something, they never say they did it for the guys and so one of the changes I hope I can talk about more and more is that I would like people think that we. Are Doing it for the sport not for Women's Sports and I I thought. Absolutely right. It's It's about time attitudes changed. Yeah I thought that was. A perfect summation of both what Billie? Jean King is about an also how how this could be a a way forward for kind of mixed event and and a combination of men's and women's. Competition together but I mean personally that that that's not been my vision for mixed team event I've I've not thought that it should replace. Davis carpet. Now, village Inking Cup I genuinely think that it could go along alongside them. Both I don't think you need to. Get rid of them and combine it into one I. Think you could have a mixed team event like we had with the Hoffman Cup but make bigger thing out of that, and now we've got that point in the calendar with the ATP Cup and that I think that's the point. Many Times. Cup. Turn. So. Many cups when you did all the cups said back to back, it's Oh it's cup overload kind feels to be redundant to be talking about the of the moment you. Know. What the tent tennis Kinda is anymore but I mean personally I'm just saying I think there's room the space. It would be a great thing for a mix team competition to exist alongside. The Davis Cup in now Billie Jean King Cup that we already have our cup runneth over. A. Carrillo.
A Pandemic Dahhhling, Do You Know What That Means?!
"Hello everybody welcome back to the body. Serve Jonathan and I'm James. His I told you had a bit of a surprise for you at the start. Those, Where we're watching the great, we've got one episode left and it's filled with Hazaras. That is the catchphrase. We are in the middle of pride month, and before we get into the show, a special shot and thanks to Tom Humber stone who has been or designer over the years for? Various artwork that you may see associated with the body serve, and he's given the body serve a pride makeover, so we've updated all of our various socials and websites, and you can have a look at what he did there. We think it's just swell, so thank you talk so there's been a lot of news this week. Tennis's not exactly back in full swing, but it is apparently coming soon. The plans are in place for the US Open Roland Garros and for the WPA of pretty full fall. Schedule this to happen in one day. Basically. You wake up before i. do so when I got up. We'll tell you when that was or when that typically is. Knows a lot for me to catch up on. It took a while took like full day very like I had a a grasp of what was going on, and what it felt like to me, was one domino started, and then everybody was like damn. Yes, so the USDA teased a little bit earlier in the week that they were primed to go ahead than a big announcement was coming pending government approval we had heard rumors about the zoom calls this huge. ATP Zoom Com that no Ruben was talking about on the behind the rocket podcast, criticizing Novak Djokovic for allegedly not being there, so we knew there were is nothing alleged about to. He was not okay. The whole point university I don't WanNa get spread cheated. You know everybody's got to be charted once in a while. The so there were there were murmurs throughout the week, but. Wednesday at ten am. The US Open holds a press conference in the empty and cavernous. Arthur ash stadium. Stacey Allaster is there? They have a few other folks on court physician. Mc I forgot who that was. Sorry. My reporting skills are just not up to snuff over the the tennis break, but it was very much a public relations event. There were a lot of sport reporters on zoom. So after the the press conference happened, or after the main presentation happened, there were individual questions by. Reporters who they showed on zoom, and when we found out that there wouldn't be media physically on site. We got the sense that this, too was a trial run for what the media access will be at the actual tournament where presumably players will be interviewed via zoom. Right, so the big announcement as I'm sure you've already heard that the US Open will go ahead. As planned in the the same part of the calendar in New, York City at Billie Jean, King National Tennis Centre with no spectators, and with a lot of health provision in place, but listen I'm still surprised that they're going full steam ahead. I'm still extremely skeptical and especially what we're seeing now in. Clemson University for example. was. At twenty three members of the football team tested positive for COVID. The exploding numbers and Florida Arizona California baseball has affected right now. Golf is affected right now pretty much every sport that you've seen. Attempts to restart has been affected in one way or another in tennis. Not going to be immune to that and we'll get to why. We think that that's the case based on what's been going on overseas. Break so I? Guess I'm getting ahead of myself. Let's just go through the actual news first, and then we can comment on it as part of this abbreviated summer schedule, or there will be the Washington D. C.. C. Tournament, the city open held in DC, starting August fourteenth for the men I. Don't think we have heard about the possibility of a winds tournament yet, but I believe it's being discussed because it's typically joint event, right, it's not currently in the WTO calendar, but apparently that is still open, then the western and southern open. That is normally in Cincinnati will be held in New York City the week before the US Open. And then the US Open and because Cincinnati is moving to new. York. That means that there will be no qualifying. For the US Open because typically the week leading into the Grand Slam in New, York, city. It's this. It's this week long. Qualifying Extravaganza pretty much and so with Cincinnati playing that there's no room for qualifying
Pam Shriver - US Open finalist aged 16, winning Olympic Gold, and partnering Martina Navratilova
"Thank you so much for doing. This is an absolute treat to have you come and yeah in very strange circumstances obviously for everybody in the world not just the tennis world. You're joining us from California. I believe how how things over there. How has lockdown? How you coping the situation and the lack of tennis in La Lives. Well I would say over all I'm really proud of my three teenagers at a time. When teenagers want to distance themselves from their parents. They've accepted what has to be done. I feel like California in the mayor of Los Angeles I live. We live in Los Angeles. So we've had some leadership both at the state level and and at the city level that has been really strong very consistent and I think that's one of the reasons why Are Part of the United States is actually done much better than expected in pleased that the generation who the order to stay at home. It's really counterintuitive to what they want but There's been a lot of acceptance in I can tell you as a homeowner sixteen years ago bought up property with a private tennis court. Tennis court is one of the reasons why a couple of us in the family have kept better sanity. How much you missing professional tennis right now? Well you know I missed Indian. Wells would have been an easy drive. I missed that one. The most I will tell you because of the business of my home life regardless of a pandemic or even if I'm just driving my three kids around and The the level of detail that I would follow the tour from week to week is not as detailed as it would be like when I worked for ESPN at Melbourne and maybe look the weeks leading up to Melbourne. I knew what was going on in the lead up tournament so for me personally. I haven't missed it that much but we haven't yet gone past one of the tournaments. I think would impact us the most which would be say for for me. Roland. Garros Wimbledon. I mean I thought the tennis will did a great job of I mean it was tough call for Indian Wells. I remember that Sunday night when it was called It took everybody by little bit by surprise but it just started the domino effect of what this virus in the effects on the world sports It just started a series of closures around the world yet studying to look like a very pristine cooled by by that tournament. Looking at your Your social media. You look like you've taken the opportunity during lockdown to have the most neatly and cleanly arranged trophy show in all of Iraq in Pam. Yeah one of my first during lockdown one of the first things I was thinking. Well little things can I post What content would be interesting and I thought all right well. My mantle pretentious fans would be interesting to see The the major championship doubles trophies. Most support try one with Martina. There was a US Open with a net. Pashas vary of there was some Fed Cup stuff. There was recognition of our Grand Slam doubles year as well as the year. I got the finals of US. Open in singles at Sixteen. So I thought it was kind of a fun tour and I guess most of the stuff I posted that one had the most views in. I think it just shows you how much people want to see one way or another or or touch any way major tennis. He absolutely in all of these things that that you just mentioned there. I I really want to talk about. I in first and foremost your your partnership with Martina Navratilova. Seventy four doubles titles together including Twenty Grand Slams. You're you're still the most successful women's doubles partnership of all time. What what made you such a great partnership the too well. I think there are a lot of things I think when you look at how we played our singles The style of play with serve volley back in the eighties. That was kind of. That's how you play doubles back then too so it was really Our our singles games translated into being great doubles players. Naturally the lefty righty combination. If you look in tennis history whether it's nukem Roach whether it's the Brian twins whether it's McEnroe Fleming There's a lot of great Lefty righty doubles teams. I just think you know the choice of who serves the sun's tougher righty. There's just a lot of things that are beneficial to having a lefty righty Our personalities you don't have a partnership that long if your personalities don't gel well We enjoyed each other Our senses of humor clicked in. There are a lot of those matches through the years where we would play after. Martina was the featured match at night So we played and we had to wait late night tennis So if you didn't enjoy each other and our coaches got along. Well obviously we had teams. That were much smaller back then. My team was generally just one Martino. It's one of the first that brought in teams of more than one But our team's got along well and so it just led to who knew that January eighty-one with lead to what it ended up leading to it was I think ultimately nineteen eighty that Martina. Kool G to US could be your your partner partner. What do you remember about that? Phone call was at Deer Creek Country Club in Deerfield Beach Florida having a late practice and I'm a member. Lee Jackson longtime referee for the tour and She came out and You know years and years before anyone has self owner yet said Martinez on the phone and I mean whoever is practicing with the it was the practice was abandoned Iran in got it got on the phone. And W T tour office and You know she asked me. She doesn't mix her words. She didn't learn a lot of pleasantries. Just asked me if I had that commitment to doubles partner for the next year and I said no I did not. I had just the. Us Open just a month prior. I'd gotten into the finals with Betty Stove in Betty Stove his last tournament. And we lost Billie Jean King and Martinez. I think it was six six or five and five and I think that was probably the last indicator. Martina needed that. She she she was looking for. A younger partner was starting. Her career could play for a period of time and so it was obvious it. I didn't even have to break commitment. Thank God because if I'd had a commitment to somebody I mean that would have been a tough a tough one to pass on playing doubles with Martina. So I'm glad it worked out that I didn't have a commitment to a partner confessed to a tip off from for Mary Carillo but she has suggested that that I ask you about asking Martina to sign a cocktail Napkin to seal to seal team together forever. Yeah well we had already been together a long time because we we. We went through a stage at think Springtime of eighty four. We lost in the tournament of Champions in Orlando. We didn't lose again for over two years so I think it was. One hundred nine straight matches When we hit a one hundred wins and it was in Eastbourne so the tournament director George. Tendon threw a party for us that night. And we were celebrating To to the history of tennis no one can remember doubles team ever hitting one hundred wins in a row so A I decided to take that moment. I wrote a contract on a on a peeper. Napping it says I'M MARTINA NAVRATILOVA. Promise always to play doubles with Pam. Shriver and I had a witness line. The George Hendon was signed in as I stood up to give the toast and give the contract Martinez in my head ended up in a lamp shade so it was kind of like it was funny and it was. I have that I have. I still have that cocktail napkins somewhere. But it's back in Baltimore. My hometown Collecting dust but will not be thrown out. One hundred nine matches is is truly extraordinary April nine hundred ninety three to July one thousand nine hundred five did you did you feel. Invincible is a team. Well a lot of those matches we went into the matches knowing we were going to win them. But there was a handful that were incredibly dicey and I remember one in particular that was Right in the middle while it was about win number seventy five and it was in Madison Square Garden against our longtime rival. They were generally the number two team behind us. For many of those years Souckova Elena Sakaba Claudia. Coda kill and we came down to a tiebreak in the final set and I remember it was five. All it was late in the tie-break whenever I was returning and Martina just said return it low and I'm going to go and I'm like yes ma'am you know like you WanNa. That was great. It was like a plan now. Of course then you still have to execute but I remember as soon as I hit the return like that's going to be a low. It was a good return. Sheet timed or poach perfectly. Put It away and then we won the next point on serve so that was the hairiest moments that was when we came within two points of losing. But other than that. I don't remember match where we were like. Matchpoints down we. We won a lot of those matches during that streak in
Federer: WTA/ATP Should Merge - our reaction; John Millman nearly retired, then beat Federer - our interview
"Hello everybody another tennis. Podcast for you won't we weren't planning to bring you a couple of days ago but you know we just can't get enough of this and the so much going on and yes okay. There's no tennis but the stuff to talk about and we've got an interview with Joe Millman for you so we'll have that later but Catherine is here. Catherine David Selamat had David and the reason. We're convening altogether now. Not just having the Joe Millman interview which had been the original plan until about four hours ago is about twelve twenty eight pm today. Russia Federa- tweeted and what he tweeted was just wondering am I. The only one thinking that now is the time for men and women's tennis to be united and come together as one at which point Catherine and I wanted whether this was a teaser to a bit of content that might be coming out between the two tours because they've been producing causes loss of that and then I thought it can't be that cooked because I mean we've had instagram and lives law but moments later he said I'm picturing a merger between the WTO and the ATP I'm not talking about merging competition underscores but merging the two governing bodies the. Wta that oversee the men's and women's professional tours it's too confusing for the fans when there are different ranking systems different logos different websites. Different tournament categories. It probably should have happened a long time ago. But maybe now is really the time these tough times in every sport and we can come out of this to weaken bodies or one stronger body. Now when you hear that when you read that out loud that is pretty strong stuff catherine and and have to. I mean okay. We've been moving towards that in terms of little bits of Combined content under brand of tennis united. And we've had a heard an interview that has been put our way by the of their new seat in the new chairman and drag at NC Talkin about more and more collaboration. But for Roger Federer to come out apparently unsolicited and just say it's time to merge the tolls that was bombshell stuff ready wasn't it behold this novel an exciting idea. Yeah it was pretty bombshell stuff. I mean obviously. It's a good idea. Obviously Reid you. The way you read out these tweets. That sounds entirely sensible great. Let's do it. I'm trying not to be Aussie and SNIFFY ABOUT CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE STORY. And the way it's developing and being told that is happening on twitter. I'm trying to be a bit. Socially distanced from tennis twitter. I say that with heavy equities because it makes me shudder a little bit But it can be a bit of a toxic place and I'm trying to not be embroiled in it but this whole story has dropped exclusively on tennis twitter sort of had to be reeled back in the sort of arms race to claim claimed territory and claim claim that. This was their ideal. This is the first time anyone had this idea. The facts that you know of one suddenly sitting up and taking native destroy quality when a man shouts about it. All of those things I there is a part of me that wants to be about the the. Oc posted me often wins. But I'M GONNA try and be utilitarian about it and think. Look if if this is how the right thing ends up happening then then fine you know and I'm I'm going to echo do some shadowing echoing into something that you're going to say in relation to a different issue Later in the POD. He's talking about the distribution of wealth and prize money among top level players which is now suddenly a a a burning topic or among plays in general and he says look. I can't believe it's taken a pandemic for for this to be taken seriously and for the real powers that be to consider addressing it. Will I feel exactly that way about the the unification of The governing bodies but hey it took countless examples. They were able to for the. Nhs happened say if the ends justify the means then great. I'm going to suppress for once my RC side. I slightly wants to be able to read that. Billie. Jean King's response on twitter to Roger Federer in the in the sort of tone of voice that you began that that line yourself because what she actually says is I agree and have been saying. So since the early nineteen seventies she. I reckon she didn't say it like that. I kind of wish you had. And then she goes on say one voice women and men together has long been my vision for tennis the WTI on its own was always planned. Be I'm glad we're on the same page. Let's make it happen Hashtag. One voice is what Billie Jean King replied with Samana. Halla Patrick Evita Gubbay. Meru all tweeted support for what Roger Federer had to say and then I found the Dow tweeted. Hey Roger Federa- as you know per hour discussions. I completely agree that it would be great to get out of this world crisis with the Union of men's and women's tennis in only one organization which yeah suddenly makes all of this same quite premeditated between the two of them will maybe more than two of them. We haven't had anything I should say on this subject from Novak. Chuck rich the president of the council at this point. But it doesn't feel like this is just some using that Roger. Federer has just done while he's bored in lockdown as such A. It sounds as though it's been given quite a bit of thought he's had this chat so we've been reminded of this press conference. The rough on the Dow was involved in in two thousand nine hundred Australian Open when he responded to questions about whether he thought that should be a combined organization between the deputy. Atp with just telling us a misunderstanding. So he doesn't didn't understand really why that would be a good idea why we should talk about that. Why why that should be on the agenda And so this is a very very different tone now. Obviously we weren't in the middle of a global pandemic at that point. The world looked very different. It may it may well be that people who had previously never given a second thought to a combined organization of Sydney. Actually th. That's the way out of this. That's a good idea and got to be ready for that. But it's it's pretty stark. Isn't it the difference in town? Yeah I mean elements of needles. Tweet genuinely made me laugh out loud. First of all any suggestion that Is Great is his. English is Spanish as a first language adult composed. Hey at Roger Federer as per discussions. I mean absolutely no way. Is That tweet composed by Rafael Nadal? Himself as per I've ever seen his tweets to Anna Ravenna. Vish venevision join twitter. He said I look forward to our discussions on this means of communication when it was back in the early days of twitter. It was really sort of formal. And it's like a tweet anyway. It kind of reminded me of that one. Yeah so I mean yeah I mean that's not anything. Groundbreaking is that. He didn't necessarily compose himself. And if I was tweeting in a second language I would probably ask for some assistance as well. We've got to eat so I'm not having a pulp about that. But it the the sort of the attempt to say this. This was my idea too. I this came from a discussion that we both had. I was in on this too. That made me laugh because yeah I mean he. He kind of gets a slightly on it from me included because I think I kind of write him off of somebody. That's just not not hugely engaged with the with the wider. She's in Tennessee. And he kind of mice to the time brushes off interrogation about them as sort of. Oh you'll have to ask other people that are that are better informed and have have moose stake in it than than me. I'm not the best person to speak to you. That that clip. That's going around on twitter from the loss. Jesus straighten open is a good example of that. But the fact is he. He hasn't been supportive of equality in In Women's Tennessee's very much market forces based approach T. V. Prize money in the tools etc. So yeah this is. It's a bombshell.
In The Cage And Out, Tyron Woodley Refuses To Play The UFC's Game
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Billie Jean King weighs in on French Tennis Federation's new wardrobe policy
"Tennis legend Billie Jean King just weighed in on the French tennis federations controversial decision to no longer allow Serena Williams to wear her eye Connex skintight jumpsuit at the French, Open king tweeted quote the policing of. Women's bodies must end the respect that's needed is. For the exceptional talents Serena Williams brings. To the game criticizing what she wears to work is where the true disrespect lies unquote
Authorities investigate police shooting of black man in Minneapolis
"With the flow of people and donations and it needs additional medicine for sick babies a minnesota state authorities are investigating after minneapolis police shot and killed a black man they say it'd been firing a handgun as he walked outside hundreds of people gathered for a sunday afternoon protests that a police station and a vigil near the north minneapolis shooting scene authorities said to nine one one calls came and reporting a man was firing a handgun into the air and ground officials say as they arrived he was sitting on a curb with a woman when when they arrived and then ran from officers while holding up black and silver gun police pursued and shot the man who was pronounced dead saturday at the scene the bca said officials recovered a black and silver handgun from that area the bureau said officers body cameras recorded the shooting but squad car cameras did not both officers are on administrative leave well officials say about thirty people were hospitalized after workers at massachusetts company began filling a feeling ill triggering a has matt response to the building the boston globe reports that response came after salem fire officials initially were called to thermal circuits about three thirty pm sunday for what appeared to be chlorine leak the building was evacuated as a has matt responded it was eventually cleared as salem fire department officials said some people were being carried out while others were being attended to the side there spokesperson says eighteen people were transported to a hospital eleven others were admitted to other hospitals and celebration in pride mixed with defiance and new york city on sunday as throngs of people crowded the streets rainbow flags waving for the annual a gay pride march at tennis legend billie jean king was one of the grand marshals along with transgender advocate tyler ford the event and others like it across the country of course commemorating the riots that erupted in response to a police raid at a new york gay bar called the stonewall land in june of nineteen sixty nine we'll have more on pride celebrations across the country later this hour here on america's first news also later this hour we will be joined by afn political commentator and breitbart contributor see edmund right the latest on the situation on the border and the chances that immigration reform will actually happen this week in.
Gay pride parade in New York City
"The app or text speak to forty eight forty eight forty eight text speak to forty eight forty eight forty eight to try battle for free that's spa k two four eight four eight four eight jared kushner president trump's soninlaw in mideast peace on voice says the administration will present that plan with or without input from palestinian president abbas interview with the palestinian paper aisle coulds jared kushner openly questioned whether palestinian president mahmoud abbas has the ability to reach a peace deal he said he is quote not sure he'll also indirectly criticized a bosses leadership saying the lives of palestinians have not improved and he added quote there was only a certain period that you can blame anyone other than palestinian leadership a member of that leadership sauber eric hot rebuked kushner saying he failed to mention palestinian rights or a palestinian state in his interview giordano miller abc news jerusalem berlin more than twenty jews and muslims road ten bicycles together through the german capital a protest against growing anti semitism had attacks on muslims in germany here in new york city of rainbow clad participants turned up for what may be the largest demonstration of its kind in the world fortynine annual pride parade commemorating the riots that erupted after police raided the stonewall inn in nineteen sixty nine per kelly is one of the bar's current owners by serving the stonewall and make it known as the gay icon the gate church that's what it is i mean people stopped by there every day and take pitches tennis champion billie jean king was one of the grand marshals of the forty ninth annual pride parade in new york city this is abc news is your computer slowing down they need a new one wait before you waste your money on a new computer go to mike clean dot com and get a.