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3.3.20

MZNOW with Michael Zavala

38:57 min | 7 months ago

3.3.20

"You're about to enter the world of Michael's of all your kids alone. Eunice michaels developed. This is MC now so I will early just so I could watch the finale of cheers. Oh Great Because aired yesterday or because I fell asleep watching the second the penultimate if you will Last night and so I was like well. I got to know what happens and I could have sworn to you Clark that the last scene in cheers was Sam Malone closing cheers. Yeah like for good turning the lights off in walking up the stairs. I think that's what people were thinking was going to happen but I could've sworn I saw it as a kid. Oh Okay I see what you're saying and so I'm expecting this to happen. Diane Chambers. Who Played With Shelly? Along along comes back for the last three episodes. I didn't know that happened right but I'm like. Oh that makes sense. He's going to run away with her and then closed down the Bar. And say hey. I'm done with the bar life right kind of like our friend. Miles did with victory park loosely based something loosely based on the story without all the legal issues and then they get on the plane spoiler alert they get on a plane then he goes back and then he realizes everything that he's been looking for in life. Is there at the bar has friends? Or they're You know he's got a great life people look up to them and then he satisfied right and he just stays at the bar. I did not expect that to happen. I really thought he was going to close the ball. I was waiting for. I kept pausing the episode thinking. Oh they're going to wrap this up in three minutes right but it never happened known. So where did I get this memory from you? I know idea are there are there are a few things that I kind of remember like that. Like oh I thought it went this way and then it really ended up being like that. But you know you're seeing it through a perspective of a of a child right. What kind of bar bar experience did you have when you were five and I I grew up in a ball and Board at a ball? You were the yelling kid that people were like what the Hell is. When I kid you know those people that walk in with the little Strap with the baby on their chest. That was me I was the baby. Get this baby. Red Bull Miami. I you know well. The thing is They did shoot a few scenes. What the with that staircase but not a lot would be going on when in the staircase. There's a few scenes that are actually shot outside the bar because you know they they have a actual studio and then they would have to go to Boston where the bar is. Shoot all those little. Yeah the one where they're playing with a SAM's or Kelsey grammer Frazier's car alarm. It was a norm and They had a fly all the way to Boston. Right shoot that yeah. But that's I don't know why I don't know why you wouldn't may be thought of that scene like all these years. I imagine this is what I was looking forward to was that Sam was gonNA close the bar for good. He was done with that rush. Shut it down one. Last it was the final night of cheers right. Turn off the light. He was the last one there and he walks up and I was ready to cry and be emotional now but I mean and it didn't happen like that. He just went on. Brennan the bar but like how they yeah. I like how they I like how they ended. It was very good right. This hit for the past few years. He has been trying to find a purpose to his life and then he realized this whole time. The purposes being there at cheers. Let me tell you if I was a ex relief ballplayer where I ran a bar and got the banks all the time. I would have no problem with that purpose a month. He was tired with that. That was the whole reason that he was looking for something else. Well you know what I'd trade live with him announced and Ted Danson Heck. Yeah or Sam alone. The only person I'm disappointed didn't have a better character. Arc was Rebecca Kirstie Alley in the very beginning. She was very stern like this character. And then a few seasons leaving the actually gave her a personality and some stories and some really great growth potential and then at the end. The last few seasons she's neurotic. She's goes back to being like a crazy character. Unbelievable Person Right you get to see a little bit of that in the in the in the beginning like an y season six right is he a little bit of her neuro Her neurotic ten but it just gets overboard. Yeah and final season. Oh in the final episode. Where she's like on marrying a plumber right term. Tom Barringer right. Oh that was fantastic. That can that can happen to anybody better than her right. But your the only thing you could you could have left the series that nobody would care right right but I mean in in your kinda hitting on something else. They did pick be perfect character to have a spin off rally. You've and now that you've finished cheer right so I had a little extra time this morning and I said what am I going to watch next? I'm not really ready to die back into a relationship of eleven season series. Which is frazier. Right maybe I can take a break and do taxi. Which is like what okay. 'cause I like the Loyd and Danny Devito and there's a ton of people on that yet so I thought well maybe that's what I'm GonNa do next well. Frazier was suggested next. I watched the first episode And I don't know that I'm GONNA get cheers vibes from it. I mean I like. Oh you're you'RE I. It's totally different for me. It's too sophisticated versus but as frazier progresses Econo- see where frazier starts to do the same thing that Rebecca does. He starts to get a little crazy himself and his dynamic between him and his producer. Ross on the show is is fantastic. It's awesome it's one of the better relationships. I've ever seen in a television show but it also gets Dumb Oh yeah. He Gets Dumb but John Mahoney his dad is what kind of that showdown to right the only likable kid. Well other than frazier himself right. He's the only likable character on that. Show I don't know what I'm going to commit to that I might watch like the first season and then take a break watch to seize the taxi and then go back. It's not going to be something I bench like. I did with cheers. Eat what you could do with frazier as you could cherry pick the episodes that have the returning characters peers. That's really the only reason why I want to watch the frazier series. Is I want to see the crossover which years. Yeah the the one episode. I remember was frazier Sam Go into Seattle. That one was Kinda cool but then the one where Norman and And cliff going visit frazier. That one was pretty good. I mean it's been so long since I've Seen Frazier. I can't. I can't really recall specific memories. You WanNA give cheers ten. Oh It's ten of my book it's a classic American Sitcom it's Star Trek Picard. Okay six point five in my book still going on that. The last week's episode was really good and by really good. I mean at seven like I didn't finish watching. Do Watch it it. Although you started pat on the background so the beginning part is really kind of boring. Like the rest of the series. But then as it progresses that episode progresses it gets really really good. I would recommend like the story actually starts at that point studios being tested right. He's flip the switch like ally standing right outside the door. We have a lot of people. Here they're running back and forth. It's a big deal. A lot of stuff going on Eric. Shooting some stuff here. We're shooting some stuff in here. It's a lot of stuff going on today like that. We need to. We need to test this place. There's a indoor soccer tournament. Yeah well you know. We've got a lot of stuff going. I like when it's high energy like this. There's a lot of stuff going on there All right so this clip came out I guess it was this weekend and it makes me laugh so hard. Let me see if I can get up on the screen so you guys can view it as well. I'm Eric didn't even mention the logo today. I saw it holds like. Wow that's my favorite. Is it really describe it for the people who can't see the fruit? Roll up with Eric Star. Nice one of my favorite podcasts. That made it about six up. I don't even think it made it that far. It did and they actually eight. Maybe it was canceled. Should've called the fruit. Roll up a free fruit by the foot. Sorry we were talking about that. I said it shouldn't be gushers. Deny remember podcast do okay. Oh Yeah I'm glad you're pointing all right. So this is one. And only Oprah Winfrey giving a speech on stage about balance and Health Revolution Yours. Just because you're GONNA be defining it for yourself to meet all things in balance and just so you know. I Love Oprah just like anybody else but this clip is hilarious. Watch balance doesn't mean all things are equal or a piece at all time. That sounded like it. It sounds okay. Ecstasy Oprah Winfrey fallen state and laughs it by the audience. Yeah we laughed off. No she gets back up whether I'm shoes but just talking about balance and then literally I wish mark was sitting here just because right now. He's like he's on a spiritual journey he found. Okay let me get Marc right handed. He's talking right outside my door. He's close by and Just because he's like right now he's talking about life being balanced and putting these out in the universe things coming towards him. La La whatever our marks coming in and then so for headset on and then for him to like see this. It's GONNA be hilarious mark. Have you seen this video oprah outside about your like your life getting on track and Oh God finally health and balanced out in the universe? Dj spy named to claim it. So here's my definition of what wellness being sweet migration very empowered by this bar for yourself wellness to meet all things in balance and balanced doesn't mean all things are equal or a piece of all time shoes. What God I love how. That's exact. Same other Oprah came out okay. Shattered my leg. Oh my marketing. His Ted talk on directing acting doesn't always mean about balance about. Oh that's planned for the wrong stilettos wellness beef yours because you're gonNA be defining it for yourself. Well this to meet all things in balance and balance doesn't mean all things are equal peace behind. I wish I could get like. I love screaming that I wished that happened like you know. I don't know we should overdubbed some out. Why are they with? My jumbled up like he's like five steps on the way down there's a there's a there's a split second. She looks like she's bouncing herself on. I've never fallen from two inches before. So you're basically telling me everything I feel is bull Michael Inspiring inspired. When you're talking about ball make sure you don't fall off so today's a very big day. We are doing the twenty twenty weight loss challenge. Where spider and Eric going head-to-head? Let's all no one knows where hymie is Friday. I'm I said I'll be there some Friday. That doesn't mean anything. Yeah maybe. He's all hugged double some girl in the band again. Probably some British girl kitchen. I call. I didn't know you know he took the headset on here. Giving you attitude is We'll be right back with the twenty twenty weight loss competition. Mc now tasting the brain you and I am the brain on their state. Bill Mike those know her phone. I'm on the phone a five day. A Indiana V. E. Five Day. I'll tell me on the phone. Call me on the phone. Let me on the phone. Hello my name. Is John Phillips? How are you doing good I'm just looking over your resume. You submitted with us and just want to confirm a couple things. That's that's okay. You say you are proficient. I think right at the wrong number resume were you were you the wound sitting in this For Administrative Assistant. I need to know just to clarify with mob boss If you are proficient in Microsoft word so I can just put that on there. I think you have the wrong number along. Okay well I found this resume here on my desk and it's got all your mation on it but It what's the main Ashley? Oh yeah that's not me so yeah I just I just got this. I got mixed up. No no this is a prostitute stack. I'm sorry no okay. I'm sorry I'm sorry I was trying to call back some resumes and I got my papers mixed up. I'm so sorry. Okay I'm sorry about that Do you have any specials going on right now? No Memorial Day specials. Now I'm sorry no by two hours get free anything like that. No okay. Can I bring friend like us on facebook at facebook dot com forward slash M. Z? Now you're listening to this is M Z now. So Leap Day was yesterday or this weekend or whenever it was and they had all these specials like seven eleven. Had A special where you could go and get a whole pizza for two twenty-nine they've been doing that more than just yesterday. Well this is for. This was a leap day special. That's what I was two dollars. And Twenty nine cents to twenty nine and So all these specials comme estimate said by the way if you haven't had seven eleven speeds it's way better than little CAESARS. Way Better like if you go get a five dollar hot and ready from little CAESARS. Oh I forgot you. Mike's Sorry there you go And then there's more okay all right. We're good now. So if you get a five dollar hot and ready from little CAESARS and then you go to seven eleven but they make it right when you order it right and it's super cheesy right. It's not sitting around her hot lamps like the five dollar hot and readies. Everyone's whereas by way better the fine print for the two twenty-nine for for leap day was at participating locations only and growing up as a kid. You'd always a commercial flight. Mcdonald's or Burger King. And here's a special for this period of time and it's at participating locations only. I've never been to a place where they weren't participating but now it makes me WanNa go like save money and buy a McDonald's or something just not participate in any we become like Yeah they have the two for one Ribs or whatever we're not participating in that it's full price. I sorta deny everybody everything. You're the jerk. We yeah in fact he charge extra they ask right Marshall Tax March to the beat of our own draw exercise of fifty cents right but no it says on the commercial the nationwide commercial. Yeah it also says participating locations and we're not one of those thank you we're different. We're born different. That's our slogan that'd be McDonald's born different. Little CAESARS breadsticks. Are There Batta crazy? Is those little kid at Kmart. There is little caesars in there icy place in K. Mart. Yeah it was the same I see. And then they had little caesars in there my God. We have to introduce our special guest today. She's back we haven't seen her since Corks giving twenty nineteen. She's back in. Studio to WHIP YOU GUYS INTO SHAPE. Lease a personal trainers worker. And she's actually the rating Queen of the mist She's mysterious giving twenty nineteen and you might be the final officers giving out. I don't know if we're GONNA do it again. Case just whip us and said shaping us what you want. Let's make sure he's not. He's not in here right now. Do you put that on your resume and trying to procure more clients for personal training like I won towards giving. They don't even know actually marketing yourself. Oh it's going to be given like poke classes and dancing studio with wood floors and some mirrors but yes carpet wants. Don't really work out that. Well you know the portable polls that fall you know how about that poll at what was it Posse all my God. Femi go there. We go there. We can go there. I mean it's across the street. Oh my God probably ladder waiver. There will be gunfire in the parking. They may lose a limb going to be open. That's all I need to know where these strip clubs find their shifts have some good. I don't know I want you to McDonald's and seven eleven Michael to strip club has got a little caesars. Sit Down. I'm not going to five dollars own pizza all a lap dance. Don't ask don't ask dancer for the five dollar hot and ready totally different John. All right. Let's get ready. This is the so first off. We weren't going to do something like this again. We said this three years ago. Whatever but We ran out of material. It's now here we are doing it again. Is the twenty twenty weight loss competition? And we have Eric Star yet fighter the DJ and filling in Mark Garcia for Hymie. The Tattoo Guy. Oh he decided he was going to take that Spot there yeah but close to it all right. I'm just spiders tall guy. He's this field highest spider diamond. Yes that's I'm trying to thank you guys out because I came ready as you can see you do it. Changed Pocono concede out. We were working is just wasn't prepared. I jumped. They can sort of fun all right so the last time we did this competition everyone gained weight and then we had extended another like six weeks. And then I think most everyone loves a compound or two. I think hymie one by eleven pounds. Run around the block that yeah. Hey it works but when we started figuring out the rules for this one. We're like well we're not gonNA reward somebody for losing one ow right. It just not worth that. So we're going to give you something to work towards the Grand. Prize is two hundred dollars. But we've broken down this year into three tiers so depending on how much weight you lose. So the winner is who lost the most weight? Somebody lost five pounds and the other people lost two or three than the person who lost five pounds going to a winner. Now how much you get paid out depends on how much weight you lost all right so tier one. If you lose between one to five pounds you win fifty dollars if you lose six to nineteen pounds you win one hundred dollars and if you lose twenty pounds or more you win the grand total of two hundred dollars and you have six weeks to do this now in between all of that we are going to give you some sort of bonus challenges that will do. We'll throw these out throughout the randomly during a show and there's little challenges that if you win you'll get a pound added to your total loss. So let's say you lose Nineteen let's say you lose eighteen pounds right but you went to these bonus rounds you get two bonus points are pounds added to your total loss count. You'll automatically be eligible for the maximum of two hundred dollars. That makes sense until he lost and Eric always wants the only exercise too much. Yeah I know it sounds like we're doing school where they're all like we have extra credit for those they after class for two three. Because we've given you guys the opportunity to to really show us what you can do and you'd never have so now we're making you work for it so this is what we're going to do. Is that a read some shade here since the only one that's participated so far that was directly. Because I actually I I WANNA point for. This gesture just had a chain. And Oh you'd have that seventies look going on hair open shirt earlier. They kinda did. I wasn't paying attention. He's not your legs now. You know that you're attracted to my hair. I could see I could see him six weeks for him to make that extra pound like the incremental pounds. I'd like wait a minute completely hairless right where the ball oil yourselves. Let's go to our personal trainer. Expert here is twenty pounds. Can these guys for at least twenty pounds if they really worked at in six weeks? Yes I've done it before with plenty of client. Okay one of the other things that we brought up. So we do have a contestant and has a handicap that spider. He has low T. Which in the gay community means. He doesn't have a lot of gossip in in this competition. He has low testosterone. Okay and so we have allowed him to take whatever he needs to get his Assadourian levels to a certain point to where he can actually lose weight. Otherwise it's not gonna it's not a fair you know what I mean. You're not letting anybody take any supplements any fat burners so you can do that okay. He is special needs the extra. Yes and yes I recommend now. Can you afford it? That's the other question. Okay yes you got the black market. One now is different Thailand part. We take them as well. Yeah anything about your Your Reproductive System. My sex drive. Yeah you're GONNA make better right. Be like no more please. God Exercise Burn Calories With You. Exercise that actually. Yeah so you'll be good but you worry about future children. Don't worry about me talking. I'm only thirteen minutes. Still working to starbuck discount. Can we just go to starbucks giving Kirby's discount and they I watch all all right I think like you said spider needs the sauce to even have a fair chance so we could still do it. It's just I don't think it's as fast. I'm thirty nine. Oh basically forty okay. It's never too late on but he doesn't eat and look at them. No sure that works and get plenty of people who are like well. I eat once a day. I don't know why okay we'll because your body's going to hold onto that your body needs attrition day literally going to hold onto that you're gonNA put on pounds just by holding onto that. So that's why like when you're when you have kids. I Dunno if I have kids but for those who have kids when you have kids you're taught to feed them every two three hours. That's how we're supposed to be eating our whole life and not like bill burgers and stuff every two to three hours. No you portion yourself. So you're supposed to be eating like five meals a day or three meals a day if you can't eat that much and then two snacks in between. But you have to have something in your body like a Granola bar or some almonds or something every two to three hours to keep your metabolism like to speed it up. 'cause if not that's how it goes down if you start you know eating bad and if you eat like so if you eat a Pizza Burger. How do you feel like you don't want anything? You're not supposed to feel like that. You're supposed to feel light when you get get from the table. Olive Garden is out of the question and the bread. That's that's a Lotta Cart. Now what if you have a salad once a day but Drink alcohol and beer. Okay see now. If you're an alcoholic drink alcohol drinker. You need to stick to like Vodka Moore like anything with water vodka. That's it you can't be drinking like beer or you can be mixing having cocktails sweetie and it's heavy on you. I've also heard the silver Tequila is real good. Yeah so those are the words that in moderation. If you're a week challenging a few had to go for a friend which was spider so gotTa Clark. Let's get you on the headset microphone. Quick Start Roscoe you ready. Let's we're going to do the official way and I hope our skill doesn't break on their what we got it all balanced out this year. We don't have to do math to figure out peoples weights. Whatever my elephants out effect here my God please do that. I'm going to cry today. For saving the elephant okay. Okay Fine Clark Clark is all dressed up in a suit. You'll see this on the on the television. You totally look like a sports commentator. It looks good. Wait so he's going to officiate. The the way in I finally here you know so you can be good. You didn't hear all the terrible things I said about Japan on now. I quit difficulties even though he was getting paid. We'll start with mark mark if you WANNA step over Clark. The official way in here. We have a magic number this year. Do you want to take your shoes off? You can do whatever you want you to take your glasses off. You might have keys in there. I got to raise her on my car to all right. Looks like we're clocking in that. Good to thirty four thirty now we can. Yeah you don't want to if you don't want us to you don't have to. I mean how. How else is the rest of the World GonNa know? I don't know how much was it. Thirty eight four thirty. That's not bad Morris. Melt away more than that me. Two five eight. He's probably five five five four five. No I'm just a few more inches to everything you know. I'm talking about let's let's get Erik on their next. We should've pulled up what you weighed last time. And I don't remember I think you're in like the to sixties to fifty five. I WANNA say all right. So Eric's all ready to go. He's got shorts on his shirt on. You Ready New Phone. It is giving me ideas okay. we're looking at two forty six down. You lost weight. You've lost weight that's great. You did say when did you start on your like challenge whenever you get back over here like two weeks ago but actually I haven't been doing for it. But why are you surprised that you're that low? Yeah that's really good. Surprised that low but actually. This is the one that I wanted to do. More this because populace here oppressor all right spider next. My guess is three hundred this morning. That was just my guess I would say three hundred hundred though. He'll take three hundred four hundred now. All right clocking in two eighty to eighty eight. I if you go all right. Two hundred eighty pounds. What's the heaviest you've ever been? Oh that's easily. That's it does the heavy. If you've ever visited the Horseshoe I've ever been for sure. Told her that US? Five eight five nine thousand around the same fitness earnings. Yeah I lost a ton away. I was like down to like one fifty one sixty two so two thirty four is the heaviest you've ever had me. Yeah Yeah you said this. Is the heaviest ever been been at thirty three? I'm heavy I've ever been. Yeah once you go over two hundred pounds you ever think like wow I gotTa Stop. I gotTa do something. Yeah every day as you know as I'm eating this my Gosh I learned to become If you were to cut your hair you should leave after surgery. I WANNA BE. I want people to be. I WANNA be so skinny. That people are like. Oh my gosh what's wrong with you. I didn't know I didn't know you're saying I mean start any money. Yeah I'm no. I'm going to be so small when all of Eric's old clothes good extra small but still they're all petite. Trista hours actually dying girl. Uk You so they should know about birth fine. I'm on a I'm on a the truckstop. Dia Beef Jerky inbreeding. Almonds Walnuts and sausages. Monday through Friday. I can I. Can I know? Go and sit down you a strapped. Yeah you're well back to you. Bob Dressed up in a suit. Just for thirty seconds credible worth it looks good man. I know you'll Julia. He's the best looking guy everybody here except for For your husband. He was an actor and well he was gonNA play a part in our film but every time we asked you. You don't Clark to be on it. Everybody's like unit. Just say they were looking for him whenever we were. Yeah go all right. Oh well just a recap. How did these guys lose twenty pounds in six weeks? The number one thing is eating clean so changing your diet. The truckstop Diet that I'm doing is good. That's recommend that to them. You're frozen frozen food. I just nuts nuts and meat. Saw Diet would be the methamphetamines. Yeah no I. Would they stick to Like your entree would be like fish as in Philadelphia causeway some and then two sides yes salmon and into sites as in like rice or vegetables any type of vegetables and stay away from sugar and salt so everything has to be grilled or baked or steamed And then like your entree could be fish. It could be it. Could be ground beef but ground beef has to be ninety percent up. Lean what about deer Meat Venison? That's fine too more leaner than remember. Yes it is like grass fed by semi like those are the best ones and more expensive Carson's Jewish sites. So yes and those are the best kind that you want That orange chicken and ground Turkey so those could be your entree's in the year. Two sites always rice or sweet potato in any type of vegetables for snacks are probably the best thing right. Yeah slow almonds snicker. Bars WanNa Know Granola Bar Yogurt. But do like in your men so you could do like six meals a day so but it has to be every two to three hours And then again. If y'all can't do the six meals then do three meals and then like three six and between but just to keep something in your body if you really. WanNa meet just go so It's very possible So first of all eating clean and then putting in the work which that's where I come in so real quick question because I I recently went through a weight loss journey back bragging bastard. He's I don't have from. I went from two fifty down to one eighty nine now. I put a little bit back on because the holidays and graduation Yeah that was about what fifty five pounds. Something like that But really was more proud of was I went from thirty point. Three percent body fat down to about twelve point seven. I and that's why I was going to have you seen husband. I have my little monitor. Where do you really have that? I don't have it with you can do that body fat. Yes it'd be like. I don't even know how you're still standing. There's no Muslim they're the only suggestion I have is get jumper up the wrote. Well that's cardio Like when I work out I do jump squats or jump jumping ledges or jump rope clean. So that's what works because you keep that cardio you're doing cardio at the same time with weights so everybody makes that mistake of just doing cardio and then you have loose skin. You just get slim runners body but if you want to lose weight and get toned you have to do weights and actually weights burns more fat than cardio her yet. Yeah through and another thing. Muscle weighs more than fat So that's another thing you can do it. Yes Oh twenty guarantees. Yeah let me figure out what six weeks from now middle of April. What if what if he lose more than April fourteenth or so? It's in the range of the two hundred dollars hundred two hundred s it more about two hundred dollars and I'll buy you a meal somewhere where you can gain our first. Mcdonald's I'll tell you the jack in the box pizza. Six weeks is the week of April twelve. What's that Sunday? That's the week after my twelve day. We won't do it then the week after that we will give you bonus week in nineteen th. We'll be checking. Yeah and that's it before I like. I feel like I'm going to do this. You Better Eric said last time. And he didn't do. I'm right here. What does that mean? Transforming like crazy and they're not completely eating clean but just by me working them out like I told him I got to show up to show up and I handled the rest. That's what I like. I was just show up and I'll handle with twenty dollars. Thank God you pay more money at all right good well. There's this is it. We're GONNA. Yeah so we will. We will do little way ends. Maybe here and there April nineteenth or whatever is when. We'll do the official finale and I hope that we can spend two hundred dollars fifty dollars. Oh I win that two hundred and spend it the next day favorite pleasure. I believe that Hot Ready Strip club if we're doing on the nineteenth. Oh that is a very super smart thing to do. I mean I do the same. Let me think about it. I wouldn't. I would invest it all right back. Knee needs I I He had one of his classmates here. I just talked to that while. Yay and she's in here's just like I'm actually his acting partner and I'm like you can be honest with us. How terrible there's no. He's actually really good. Then when he left the buildings on like be straight with Obama. He's GonNa show the clip of him and crazy. I did there was fantastic. He does really well. He does really well all right. We'll see you guys next week. This is M Z now online at M Z now like on facebook at facebook dot com forward slash. M. C. now.

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7/10/20 NWSL Nation, Ep. 12 - Challenge Cup Week 2 Review

WNBA Nation

50:15 min | 2 months ago

7/10/20 NWSL Nation, Ep. 12 - Challenge Cup Week 2 Review

"And. W. L. Nation. Hello yet again. We've been seeing a lot of each other lately is if there's a big event going on or something? You're not thinking so much. Check out this most upcoming episode we are well into the early stage of the Challenge Cup were just about ready to put a cap on this and kick off the knockout stage. Crazy how? How large time what a fun experience has been I'm of course of Schwartzman. I'm here to talk more challenged with our residents. Soccer's about Mike. mcphee Mike how how in the world are you? A Steve is has been some great football to watch brilliant football and some frustrating football. If you're yeah, royals ran, but we'll get into that in a minute an. Not Not projecting or anything, it's funny. How as time has gone more materialized, and yet there's been exponentially more questions you would think we would know more somehow. We're no closer to knowing how the this table. The standings are GonNa look, but then we're also not even close to knowing it's it's it's fun how competitive it's been so obviously we're going to. To dive into the most recent in the most the last six, so matchups the Challenge Cup as we get ready, the final match ups of the early rounds the before we do that Mike Can we talk about Louisville for Minute Louisville. Yes, racist Racing Louisville FC Racing Louisville FC proof, no more. The Story of Louisville's Buechele squad has been amazing they. They initially kick off and announced being proof lube lessee. Pretty universally panned, and I think the story for here is pretty cool. Essentially bringing in the Matt Matt Wolf in the Matthew will design firm, a well renowned graphic design and branding firm created. Really did what I would say is their due diligence. A pulled in fans. They pulled in potential players they. They pulled another soccer personnel really got the idea of Understanding Louisville in their culture in how it ties to the game seems like they really able to build branding rounds. They're racing culture. Churchill downs, the Kentucky Derby, and with that there are a lot of pieces of branding that came into it, obviously in creating a crest of color schemes specifically built around. A unique color scheme that helps them stand out a deep purple lavender on a mid green and their crest, which has across symbolizing the crossroads of of southwest the. which ties the recent culture and also to Lilly things of that nature I believe fluidly plays a role in Orlando FC. Up Team as well, sorry. The MLS counterparts team has said Cup they've ever WanNa come no, and and the name of the city itself. That's what I love so much about. This is that it was so tight ends the local culture I mean. Does that have? An impact on on the game. No, but I love the clubs that tie their image in to the local culture, and obviously we're going to talk about the name. We have some mystery reaction to it and and you know we've talked colors. We've talked about the story about how this Bill Mike Can. We talk about the crest I. Though love the crest. It is out of the park. Yes, my design success! Yeah, absolutely, it's. It's everything you want in a sports or soccer grassed. It's clean. There's a simplicity to. A level of nuance and sophistication it's recognizable. It works in several color schemes everything about it it just at an and honestly it just has what every logo should have is just a certain level of dope. -Ness of just boy, I would wear that if it's indicative to other things that they're going to be rolling out in terms of kits and other levels of branding in the future, definitely leaves the excited definitely on the right track. The think I'm most excited about has got to be the color scheme now this year in the end of Buechele. We've seen a lot of new kits. I think there's been lot of upgrades. Upgrades I'll give them credit, but it seems like virtually every team especially since we're missing Orlando is, red and blue. Right Louisville Jemson here, purple lavender. Mint Green Lake. I love the uniqueness of that huge fan from the sounds from the reveal video. It was very intentional. We wanted to have another scheme that stood out because it was not really congruent anything. We've seen we, WANNA stand out very much, and that's huge. Because one frustration we've had with especially. Especially kits with the current vessel squad is a lot of team stepped away from color schemes that help them stand out the roles of see a huge one. They had a yellow color scheme that really stood out differentiated. They pulled away from which I personally was not the biggest fan of in all honesty. We weren't able to have the Orlando Pride a part of the Challenge Cup so we missed that Purple Hue. We have a little bit obviously with. With you know the Houston Dash in their Orange Motif for the most part we're watching navy blues play whites every in every match, and so to add that piece the big thing I will say for the color scheme. We've gotTA have at least one mint green kit. We've we need something that specifically brands that because we don't have an agreement team right now. No, it of reminds me of a few years ago when Seattle Reign had those neon kits. Kits and I don't know it was just the wildest thing to watch them. Play in those but I. Think this could actually be a fun exciting. Look for the for the new squad. I totally agree. I think this is something that is a lot to get behind. It's a good look. We'll talk about ranking the Creston a minute I, Kinda went end with that, but one thing I wanna hit. Really quick is the name I think that there is. From our perspective. Submit reaction I feel like the new name across what I've seen online especially on twitter. Generally positive reviews some support most definitely better than proof better than proof, yes. Land very much at all. What are your immediate thoughts on Racing Louisville I thought it was okay again I I appreciate it. The you know the link to what's what they know. They're famous for and we. We do know that there's it's kind of a reference to some international football clubs, so it's not like that's unprecedented. Yeah I better than proof, not my favourite next, but I'm I. could get used to it. Yeah, obviously, there's a lot of different Tina's one of the main ones. There's some other leagues that have those racing teams, and that's something in their branding. They also pointed out was this would be essentially the first American racing football club and Make sense to have that Lubitsch which makes a lot of sense, honestly my biggest issue. It's a mouthful. It's before you get to football. There's five syllables before the FCC. Erasing, Louisville, it's it's just a lot hit, so there's a lot of ways you could have done something. Yes you have sky, blue FCC there'd name doesn't immediately of their geographical location. You could have been racing FCC if you really wanted to. I think there's other citywide nicknames you could pulled talked to you about Derby city, F C C I. Hits the same notes in it it. It just flows a little bit better at the same time. I think now one of those things that you know you kind of ease into I I remember you know, F C, Kansas, city I don't know. That was founded clunky to me, but then it was just FC cases which just rolls off the tongue, so RFC has has a good ring to it, so I think it works on the shorthand letter. You know level to it. You can argue of Utah Royals F. C A lot of syllables. As well I think a lot of other teams that potentially could fall into that world but you. You, you kinda finally surrender. You get used to it, so it did feel. I will say that just the structure of the name. It feels official. It feels professional. It feels sleek may legitimate only issues. Just a lot of syllables yeah I, mean if you wanna Lou as the city and the name. I guess there's just no avoiding it yet, and that's the biggest thing for me. Seeing this this rollout is that you know we're. We're so deep into the Challenge Cup, but you forget like. Wow, this is this is real. Expansion is happening. You know this isn't just the rumors oh maybe there's a new club coming next year. This is. The work's being done I'm overall. The brand is just I. Don't know how you don't give this a I. think the look. The feel of something excited about I'm excited to see what their kids are. GonNa look like obviously that's type of thing you get nerdy about I. already have emerged page up and running. There is in green t shirt. I may very well be buying one. I do want to say really quick in terms of crests, because that's big deal in the sport where you're ranking this. Across wfl teams is a lot of people that are already putting RFC at the top of their crustless of all ten teams royal. Dairy very strong line I'm personally. Maybe it's personal bias, but I always love Portland thorns the think Orlando as a really strong one I dunno top-three, easily top three. Think makes a lot of sense I like. That's a tough one to argue. I don't think you're being at all. Stretching or favouritism that the thorns still have the best crest in American soccer. Thank you, it's gorgeous it. I just want to be transparent about my bias, but. It's. Not I. Think it's good to have respect for that, but you're not putting yourself out too hard by saying that that's the. In my opinion, it is you know. MLS different international levels in terms of American soccer is the best crest in the sport right now I might put racing number two. I like obviously like royal set up. So that's close. Oil rains new new newcrest solid. The courage is pretty simple and I think it's alright. Racing races pretty close. It's really struggling by if you want me to east intention if you feel weird about being Portland Fan and calling of thorns, the that crest is just too good. The thorns are a soccer crest that can also be a luxury car insignia, and there's something to be said for that I'm glad we got a chance to talk about that. Because I thought it was some exciting news, and some pretty cool stuff, and we'll have to see where it ties in from there, but obviously that's not the main reason we're here Mike. We have a lot of soccer dive into. We've six matches to hit We've watched a lot of of soccer. Every single squad has now completed three games in the early round of four so one more match for everyone we already have our top seed locked in, and then from there who the hell knows. Exactly Day of matches is going to set a lot for how these these knockout match ups and go to work as the so much already stay as I said I don't know that we're any closer to to how this materialize in. We probably won't know until final match next Monday. Let's kick things off Saturday July fourth. American day, royals, FC with what victory over sky blue. This came off of a fantastic amy. Rodriguez goal in the forty five minutes was really kind of the main goal that it's really interesting because we're going to be book ending these conversations with with Sky Blue, and even though it's the same team, it feels like they were very different teams. This definitely felt like the royals match pretty much from start to finish I. feel like they dominated in. Offensively Hito played with a certain level of intensity, bouncing off of a really exciting draw come-from-behind against Houston and we saw a lot of that out of Youtube General Mike. What Rear Impressions on this match? Yeah, the scoreline is not indicative of the match. We watched I think the royals came into the tournament. I don't think people had high expectations for them. Them you know they? They lost so many key pieces to their roster, and in addition to that the injuries. You know they don't have desert Scott. We haven't seen Kelli O'Hara. You think how was how is this team going to compete than? There's the first the first draw with Houston. You think maybe it's a fluke lot of offense, but then this game. Against Sky, blue you see how explosive their offense was and I I give total credit to grow in the in the midfield shows architects to shaping the entire floor of the game, but their possession was great. They're passing was smooth and then their ability to get the ball forward and place it exactly where it needed to be particularly for the a-rod goal. It was impressive match for them. They really they really shown. When you go to the state line, it shows itself off, so royals had fourteen shots to sky blues three. They had four shots on goal to Sky Blues Zero. That thought had a really solid gave recorded. Zero saves because their resume shots on goal. The concerning thing was sky blues level of tip nece I think was some level of concern and you know I think almost the most aggressive you saw that team was Mitch purse getting yellowcard early on, and that was about. Obviously we know hindsight of Sky Blue Story, but just based off this match kind of what what are your feelings on them? Walking out well sky blue I mean there's a lot of individual players that I love on sky. Blue and that had good individual performances in this match I think particularly about if mono and Midge purse if he was someone that showed a lot of speed and was able to to get up there quickly, but there was never. Never the support the and and so it just felt very disconnected like you mentioned with the stats. They were never a threat to to the royals. Yeah, this, this definitely felt one-sided from start to finish, but our strong match it'll be interesting when we come back to these many of these clubs, how things shift a little bit which which is what makes this whole tournament interesting? You feel like you know the general identity of a squad and. The way that this tournament has gone has really kept us undertows in that sense. We're GONNA kick things over later to the fourth Houston Dash to victory over O. L. Rain in the twelfth, minute Christie meal's supported by the System Shea groom drops in their first goal. Sugar decides. She wants a little more action gets a goal of her own in the fifty fourth minute. It'll one that why. Would you sick? Let's just jump straight in AL cutoff numbers this. Shaker have the best header of the tournament so far best goal of the tournament. I mean like was. Freaking Real, you see her movement, you see you see the run up to that goal. And then she just launches off the ground times. It perfectly directs the ball perfectly. There's no keeper in the world that can stop that it says something that when I first watched the replay I. Don't remember seeing her on the ground. With the camera covers the Cross and it gets to groom. She's Levitating I. Have No idea how she established a height that she did and then to have the control she did. It was such demand we'll. She's yes, she's it. She's not the tallest player. You might expect something like that from daily. Who Fed her the ball? Perfectly I might add, but and then to come against her. Her former club to you know. She just came from the rain this this season. Just insane. I like you calling out goal. I was going to limit it to header for safety sake, but if it isn't the top goal the term so far, it's top two. It was it was awesome and honestly. I walked out of this. Feeling like the dash were kind of the surprise of the terminal, if there was a team that felt like they had the swagger through potentially disrupt and North Carolina Courage could very will be Houston and that was listen feeling that This entire day with the royals, looking so good and the dash dominating, we went, we both predicted those teams pretty low in in terms of of rankings, and then just after both matches that day people Kinda got talking. Wow, Houston in Utah might actually be contenders. Yeah I think it really helps case. Their offense just seem so multi-dimensional. There's so much more dynamic to it and. And it makes it a lot, which is which is a huge change because it's like you know what force Rachel Daleas, but so early on in the game, Christie newest forces that huge defensive mistake and scores with almost no one around her, so it was a slew was all around offense of masterclass from from the Dash. Absolutely now I think the other side of it was. Again consisted Tim from oil rain. This is their second match. At this point. They walked out of this match scoreless they they weren't able to pull off a goal yet. Again. Walking out of this match again, no hindsight in your mind I walked out of this getting the sense that from one to eight rain felt like the team in the in the lineup in my opinion, what felt missing to you specifically on this day watching this club goals. No I. Mean You talk about? The obvious answers the right answer yet. This is a team that is coming off of multiple years of being in the postseason in the playoffs right now we're halfway through the preliminary round and the Evans scored. What's going on like? I know they're missing some key pieces and their defense solid. They have good possession of the ball. It's not to say they're a poor team, but there was such limited options on the attack. There was so little momentum for the rain. The the dash just smothered them they they were only down on on. On overall shots from Houston by by two shots destroyed them in terms of passing accuracy. They had nearly as many crosses. A lot of their buildup was love their ability to finish just didn't feel like it was there, and it definitely had caused concern, and that's where walking out of that was really intriguing, and of course we're going to get back to both these clubs in just a moment, but before then we want to kick things over to July the fifth so I like to call it American boxing. Day is the day after. That joke didn't land is. Too but that's live. I think the official holiday is making pianos birthday exactly? Yeah, it's it's Pino. Day I forgot about that so yeah. That's. That's that's much better in belated. Happy Peanut to you. Of course. Thank you. It's a whole lot, we you'll be getting a family card in the mail but this is where move onto the kickoff of July Fifth Portland Thorns? FC Washington Spirit draw one one. This really had the potential to be one of the more exciting matches. Obviously, we've seen a lot of Washington could potentially pull authors lot of excitement there. I think a lot of us were waiting very heavily for Portland's opportunity to to really bust out. Do something amazing? And there were some really strong points to this and to very exciting late goals that fun to watch. Obviously, one of those was probably ill-timed from your perspective, but just in general your overall reactions. Reactions to draw. I had a lot of ups and downs. I think it was a frustrating draw for Portland because they were generally dominant throughout the Maj particularly in the first half, they had dominated the midfield. I think Lindsay Iran had a phenomenal game, even even before her her free kick the free kick from Meghan Klingenberg Iran's goal, and they brought a lot of pressure. The handle the ball well to passing, Christmas, but they couldn't finish they. They seem to fall apart in in the in the final final stages of the attack, and so and then, and then at the half the spirit bring on Roosevelt and Ashley Hatch and I think do a lot. To bring Washington back into the match there are a lot better on possession after that, and then of course score the equaliser to Iran's goal with a debt Sam stop header so you know I. I think Portland's was very disappointed not to get the points after a generally strong showing, but that being said Washington could easily have stolen this thing if it wasn't for some superhuman saves by Bill, Bixby Bill Bixby had a phenomenal day, which is almost what makes Washington's equalizer nearly the? The more impressive because Samantha stabs recovery inability to get the ball net was very impressive. It Wesley Actually Sanchez pass off of a off of a corner off back heel, leaning out nearly completely out of bounds, and still getting in position I don't I didn't even know how it was physically possible, and then we come to find out that apparently this was a practice drill that the team had been putting together which I don't i. don't even know how you do that on me. Yeah it's kind of like when you're a kid and you through a tennis ball and the grass. It somehow stuck into the chain link fence, and then you tried to actually do it. No matter how hard you really tried that. That's what that felt like. How do you rehearse that and make it work? It was such an impressive goal in and it was it was. That's really what spoke to to their level. These are two teams that have such a talented dynamic scorers that can put the ball. Ball net in such dynamic in unique ways, and I think that that's what's interesting is in a Portland had a goal on one shot on goal to me. It really spoke to that level of if you can get them in a position to score, they often will and I feel like that's almost kind of been harder. Portland struggle is just getting through to that final third yet and I. See going back. Yeah, we going back to the end of last season where they create lots of great opportunities. But just completely unable to finish, but on Washington side to we just didn't see the same level of speed and explosiveness the that we're used to especially from someone like Ashley Hatch she had. Should that one break away of that really stood out, but in a lot of their matches you know rose. lavelle dominates the midfield. You know someone like Jordan. Diaz has ended up Ashley Hatch drives that Tempo and I didn't see that as much in the spirit mismatch. That that was kind of the difference is eight. They definitely felt I. Don't know if you can say they're winded or what, but yeah didn't get that sense of aggression, however a lot of I think their ability to materialize what what became their equaliser was pulling Roseanne Ashley Hatch at the start of half, and finding a way to make that Tampa work, but even then it. It took a high level of craftiness for them to make that happen, so it'll be interesting to see if Washington can can maintain that form that we're all hoping to see and. And if this is something that hopefully instills into Portland the confidence to be the thorn squad that that were hoping to see because this is a very high potential. This is the type of thing that wakes a team up. Just in time for the knockout round were now through to the back half of our game. Reviews will hit this one honestly fairly quickly, because this was match for all intents and purposes felt like it was going to be a strong draw for the Red Stars but to quote correspondent, and I would say NWS media legend Meg Lenihan. Mike Courage GonNA courage. Eighty first minute abby SIG knocks in a header off the crossbar. That goes just past Nair and. Right from there, what felt like was going to be a well earned draw and will earn points from the Red Stars yet again. They're on the losing end of the courage. That just seemed to be the rich kid. That always gets their way. That sounds about right Because you know in this match the courage they brought the game, they brought the explosive offense that we're used to seeing from them, but the difference was Chicago just I mean put up such a strong defensive battle, especially behind the performances of Julia Roberts and Casey Short I mean they both huge moments, but they were, they were able. Able to withstand the courage attack for eighty one minutes, and then you know the thing that the puts them over the line it's it's not. It's not one of their deadly crosses. That's worked so well for them before. It's not it's not you know Golden Boot Lynn Williams or Debena that we've come to expect it's not crystal done. Is Their Star defender Abby? That gets you the the header into the crossbar an extra. Extra interesting because the this came a minute after from my perspective, Chicago made three subs that from what I could see were defensively inspired. They kilowatt. That pulled Yuki. They pulled Rachel. Hill they dropped in Katie Johnson done EAC and Michelle s can sales and when I got out of that is, they were trying to hold the line as best possible. Noting what situation that would put them in not sixty seconds later. ERCEG finds a way through. Exactly and maybe that's just the story of life and what we learned to accept. Is that at the end of the day the death taxes and courage finding a way in the net. No matter how much we don't want it. That's the thing about the courage. It's they stand right now. With nine points, they already are the top seed. There's no mathematical up and then they've got it taking care of however, almost you claim that all three matchups have shown some element of how beatable this team news if you. Recipe! Yet for his dominant as they've been. You know this is two out of the Their three matches that have been decided on know very late. Those matches could go either way. They're definitely the dominant team against anyone. They play, but they're not unbeatable. I don't think I'm definitely. Not I. think There's a lot of cases that like statistically when you look at a lot of what they put together. You see how this team can be ended if if you could make the right sauce happen five shots on goal. Three of them blocked. They obviously got one in the net, but I think it speaks some level of volume to say that they found their way into scoring position and they were able. Able to be stopped. They had what I would potentially are. I swear to say might be the highest amount of crosses that have seen for many teams. Statistically. They had twenty five in this match up alone, and I think right there. What that says is I think they're offensive. Strategy can be exposed, and you've pointed this out in games. We've watched together, which is, we tend to pretty easily know what their offense attack is going to be, and it makes it all the more frustrating. White can't seem to be stopped and a lot of cases. We know what to expect from the courage, but they're just so efficient and lethal at that I mean sure. No one has been able to do it yet, so. Yeah and I think that's the the whole new of it is I. Think they're depth helps play that role of they're able to get a higher level of fresh legs to make that attack work, but this is definitely one that was just manage here there and this we're having a different discussion about the courage, and potentially a much different discussion about the Chicago Red Stars, who currently sit at the bottom of the table coming true. That's true I. Mean They were in? They were in the championship. Less than a year ago and now in now with one game left. They have one drawn to losses, and you can claim of course you can make claim of Sam Kerr, and that element of it, but I don't think you look at this roster and look at the skill sets I. Don't think you can say just without same. Carson lives team is in shambles. There's a lot that could have been made work here interested. I just don't. It hasn't quite yet clicked. That's what makes the structure. Structure this tournament, so interesting is there are a lot of teams that as time has gone. We've seen things GEL and click and make work, and for some teams like Chicago. It may take till the fourth match up into the knockout round, but in the situation of the oil rain and sky-blue see it appears it really took until the third match up. If there were two teams that I totally right now, I would put at the bottom of the table. It's the two teams that won. On on July eighth. Against the two teams that you probably are saying those might be numbers, two and three, the two most impressive teams coming up Iran's rows of see up ended by oil rain one zero on Bethany. Balser score off of a phenomenal for Miki in extra-time. Utah seem to be walking away with yet. Another drop putting them in a tough position Balser course finding the net with a huge sister Miki also a huge assist from. From Nicole Barnhart who, just in my opinion, did not respond well to that header just like that. We've been waiting for a moment for Balser to make your move happen. She made it happen and just like that. The rain suddenly are in a position to get into the top half of the table when it felt like they might be dancing toward the bottom of the table. Quite simply Mike what the heck happened here. Well their first goal. The tournament came at exactly the right time for them. You know we. We know we know Bethany. Balser is an incredible player reigning rookie of the year. I think for the majority of the match. The royals controlled the tempo. They definitely had the most pressure, but they couldn't finish their their offensive opportunities. There is a lot of extra touches that didn't need to be there on. There was a couple miscommunication. I mean going as far as the box, but still they. They felt like they were in control, but then I would say the last ten minutes of play really behind Balser. The just stepped up the energy I. Don't I. Don't know who. Who Flip the switch, but the tempo change? The mentality changed and they were just pressing so hard that it almost still inevitable. You can tell the time of possession I think the bounds of possession time in the second half plates showed that role once Balser came in around the sixty seven th minute. It definitely had that feel of they were forcing their way into opportunities in a way. Way that we had not seen this team that was well on their way to going three matches without a goal over two hundred seventy minutes over four hours worth of soccer without a goal able to make it work really the last possible second, and a lot of that comes down like you said the Boston ability to make that push. I will say one thing that I found curious. Curious about rules have ceased situation. They didn't make the final two subs till the seventy six seventy nine moment they bring Dan Matheson. They bring in Stream Akimoto really strong pickups ego, though I think those make lot of sense that say you're leaving Kelli O'hara answer king on the bench after King had some very very impressive performances. There's a lot reasons behind that obviously resting players and and defending certain positions. Dan Matheson was one of those interesting. Obviously, we all love. Matheson use specifically called out to me how there's even a positional curiosity behind why that change was made. Her beyond for. I thought it was strange. I don't know that Radcliffe had had her best game, but it was strange to me that they were subbing Alps forward for midfielder. When you're, you're tied at nil nil I, think Sarah King would have been just the obvious choice. She's been incredible on this tournament now O'Hara Ion. We know she's coming back from injury. You want to don't want to risk reinjuring her before the knockout round i. get that but I don't know why king wasn't sub then yeah I just felt like with the momentum that she built you looking for someone who can dynamically find the net. You've had so many opportunities, but. But very small, moments or whatever you WANNA call it minute. Differences differentiate your ability to get screened position and actually get something on the board whether it's small extra touches, or it's different. Level of hesitancy is something that I've liked in watch. Sierra is wind. She finds opportunities. She tries to swallow him up as quickly she can at this felt like that moment, and it was a very curious situation why that opportunity wasn't presented, but you know it's why I'm not paid a You know a managers money to make those decisions I think there's a lot behind it, but it definitely was something that made me wonder. King, especially I think O'Hara was definitely curiosity cases well, Abby Smith not being goal a lot. Just made you wanted to? Yeah. It's a strange matched to start Nicole Barnhart. INGLE I. DON'T I don't mind trying out different goalkeepers. I think that's fine, but a matchup against the rain. After you know after you've had Houston and Sky Blue I. It was a weird one to try out a new oak keeper on the other end of that, though I think Eucheuma Miki for the rain was incredible and their their game winner set that up so perfectly. Absolutely. It was a you WANNA. Talk just about a picture. Perfect Gorgeous. Pass putting Balser. In a situation that Balser had been trying to force away, too, so long I. Mean when you. Think about energy level you know they. They found a way to really earned that pretty heavily and visit needed for them even if they didn't pull out the win which they did, they needed to draw irons. For them to feel anything in their psyche, and so I think that was a huge net positive on their end for certain so interesting case, this is one that went the direct opposite. What we expected and if that's how he felt about this match, boy, do we have something else to about sky blue? FC Houston Dash walking into this match against sky blue late on Wednesday. July the eight. I feel like outside of the courage. Courage we were getting to the DASH might be that second favorite team. They might be someone to make noise. They might be the team that's equipped as well as possible to piss potentially up and the courage where we may looking at you know one of those top in favored level teams. They seem completely locked in offensively fired up Rachel Daily as Completely Well Oiled. We've talked already about shake room and her ability to put. Herself in situations to succeed score. Houston seemed like they had a whole lot of momentum. That momentum felt like a change. Seventeen minutes into this match win. AUTOMO- new Fed page Monahan just. I don't even know how to say that's the the fat out fast is approach I've seen to a gold. Is Sort of it. Pass was perfect, but Monahan makes it. Look effortless like it's almost embarrassing I mean we'll. We'll get more into it like I. Think Jane Campbell did not have a good night, but on hand just makes it look easy absolutely and I think I agree with you. Gene Campbell Front definitely with the a level which sky blue was able to very aggressively. Aggressively find their way into getting shots on goal that it was. It was a tough thing definitely to respond to, but you definitely are curious at thirty four when Kasumi loves like underhand volleyball lobs one in the back of the net Ryan I'm trying to figure this out exactly. What Campbell situation was because it just felt like she just responded to too late will. She always way, too. She was way too far out of goal. Kasumi spotted it and just launched the ball and Campbell couldn't get back in time I. Mean Campbell is a great goalkeeper who's been on the national team bubble for a long time on this. This was a really shaky performance. That's not a mistake. She makes often and Kasumi just completely capitalizes on it. I think a lot of people. Obviously, YOU'RE GONNA. Chalk this gold down to to misstep a camel, and that makes you know justification in that something that does need to be noted, however by this is you have to? To honor cow sumit's level of maturity. How often is this situation upended by someone rushing a shot and overshooting the crossbar? She made it a point to vary to to have the place to make sure that thing got in goal and I've we've seen this before? Where someone very much rushes, it overshoots it so this. This isn't just necessarily. Oh, she was able to just Kinda lob one and go I think a lot of wherewithal went into that, but it was floating. That's got this like Carli Lloyd in Twenty Fifteen World Cup final kind of kind of Glob you know she. She just saw the opportunity delivered perfectly. It almost happened in slow motion where I'm thinking to myself that might go in. There's no way that's going in. That's in you know it's. It was. She thought she had the bitten made. It was at such a pace. That commentary wasn't sure. If it counted a re missing something, and that really was really intriguing, but the attack Sky Lewis this so similar to what we saw with Utah and oral rain, which was where's this attack been all tournament? Where's this confidence been and on the other side of it? What really happened to Houston Houston comes. Comes out of this with a single shot on goal. They seemed fairly disjointed from my perspective pulled in twenty crosses. None of them really seem to land too heavily, and that's inside the fact that you know disciplined seem pretty well two yellow cards, both sky. Blue I think you saw some solid defensive prowess at the end of it just felt like the team that we watched a few nights previous absolutely not. What do you think just played such a differentiating role for for the Dash? It's it's me. A neither of these teams were. We've seen neither of these teams before Houston has. Their offense has been explosive yet tonight. I mean daily barely push the tempo part of me wonders. Daily did take a really hard hit fairly early into the match I wonder how much the that played into it, but also I thought it was a quiet night for Christie Munis. I think there was a lot more miscommunication and sloppy passing I. Really Don't know. Yeah, it's. It's really hard to tell you part of your wonders. If just simply the attack that you saw out of Sky Lewis some that may have just thrown them off guard, and for some reason they weren't able to recover from that. A Oh from a state of mental stamina point, but it's hard to tell what I will say was the. The results of of the matches from the eighth. The Challenge Cup table into what I'm going to call a state of flux. Let's review over that really quick. We talk about the upcoming matches to finish up pretty rounds as we talked about with nine points North Carolina courage have officially locked in their number one spot they will be at the top of the rocket No nuts coconuts. If what's the phrase ends of coconuts. I. Don't remember and I. Don't even remember what movie I saw. It from is a really bad referencing. It's making for great podcasting so. Yeah so the courage number one seating. From? Your football got it and something about. From their your two to six could fall anywhere from two to potentially eight. At this point, we have a five way tie in the points structure with the Sky Blue Houston dash the royals oil rain in spirit all with four points piece right now the goal differential skied sitting atop in second this was a team that was teetering towards the bottom of the table, and all at once find themselves second. The seedings could potentially drop as low as I. WANNA say potentially eight pending how those final match ups go! The have the Dash. Yes, so as you look. At the bottom, we have the thorns and the Red Stars. How many of us could have predicted that those were going to be? The team's teetering at at the bottom of this table at this point mathematically, if I'm correct going through potential matchups and I'm almost always wrong, so you guys are free to correct. From what I can see, the thorns can at this point climb their way to as high as about the fifth seed Red Stars highest to roughly the sixth seed, and that incorporates them pulling in wins, while having handfuls of things, go their way with other matchups as you're looking at the order as it stands right now Mike. What shocks you the most I think you said the teams at the bottom I think we expected the courage to be its top, not a surprise to two of the four playoff teams from last year at the bottom of this table including. The runner up the the champion runner up championship team, but then of course to see teams like Sky Blue Houston royals up there like those were not teams that came into this tournament with high expectations. Yeah, it's it's really interesting how this list, but I think that natural four-game pre setup forgets and knockouts makes that a natural inclination I think one thing that we did talk about here which I? Think will be a good note for us to make before we hit these predictions for these final matches might. Is I actually think this puts a lot of? Of these two thousand sixteen actually put them in an interesting situation, because obviously at first glance. You WanNa get a better seed. That generally is what you're going for, so make sense final match. Let's put all of our horsepower behind our roster. Get all of our starters locked. Try to put as much minutes as began and get a victory. Get the points of the move our whipped bracket. There is also I think a running mentality that you can have a squad. which is you know something right now? I get the sense that two through six I don't. Don't think we drop all the way to eighth which means we would face the courage in the first round based on how all the match ups gone around the board. I feel pretty competitive as a squad against just about any other team, so maybe let's actually go ahead and maybe rest a lot of our key players. Get them ready in his energized his locked in his possible for the knockout round. Because regardless of where we're sitting, we're probably going to be in roughly the same scenario in terms of our, you know the potential to pull in A. A Win am I over thinking that or you know not at all, not at all. Because at this preliminary round, no-one's getting eliminated, and so I think with the exception of the Red Stars in the thorns who were sitting at the bottom of the table I. think there's a sense that you need to keep your players healthy manage their minutes. Make sure that you are ready to go one hundred percent in the knockout round. Absolutely I think it does help that in that in the tooth or seven. You're looking at a difference of a goal differential to. Between Sky Blue in the thorns, so depending on how Games go scoring a lot of things can shift around, but again like you said if you feel comfortable that you suddenly not GonNa fall to the bottom of the bracket and face off North Carolina in the first round. I think overall there's a Lotta, comfortability and I. That's what makes our final predictions for the early rounds. All the more interesting we have four more matchups over two days, and that will officially set up with the lineup is going to for the knockout round. Round so Mike. I last time we did rapid fire do the same thing here, but I think these matchups and these predictions GonNa be interesting, because a lot of it may just come down to what is the mentality that squad and how they're going to set up the roster in what's important to them may play a big role, but on face value will kick things off early match on Sunday the twelfth we've got the spirit and the dash facing off so both one one in one teams. Had you see that going I? I think I think the spirit are going to get their Mojo back after that last draw I think I'm giving them a three one win over the Dash. I'm getting roughly that same setup is i. feel like the spirit of have a lot to speak on that level. Get the sense that the dash might have some things to work out. I also get sense that the dash have seen success against lot of teams and feel like maybe a lot of what happened to us in that third match was potentially minutes related so. So, let's rest back move forward a summit to go two nil for the spirit. Okay, thanks, let's go Chicago. Red Stars roles have see for the nightcap of the final match up in this is one where the seedings probably are beyond what we were fully expecting. Mike, do the red stars find a way to cap this off with the positive finally sealing win, or to the Rose, avenge frustrating loss to oil rain, and the sun, a high note or does either t matter how this goes because you know, we just love chaos. This is this is tough I I want. I want to cheer for the Red Stars I them to pull it together, but I'm GonNa call this WanNa. Draw I don't think they're going to get the win. It draws draw. I'm going to go ahead and give this one. The Red Stars I think the sake of saving face. They need to find a way to get a w gonNA. Put full force into their to their starting eleven, and again y'all know me and predictions. I'm going to get totally wrong. And I think they're going to be able to do stuff. I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go to two one for for the red stars over over the royals in this match up all right Mike had our to matchups our final day of the initial round before we hit, knock outs for the Challenge Cup so craziest. We're already this far into things like we just started in. Like halfway point basically, we've got oil, rain and Thorns FC again. This was one where at the start of the day the we're recording this. These two teams that felt like they were teetering at the bottom. Now you have one that might be making a push much higher up the bracket one that isn't necessarily probably trying to avoid bottom spot and believe it or not. That's thorns. This one is really interesting to me. In terms of what teams priorities are, but that said we get a little bit of the. The CASCADIA matchup between The Ring Thorns what thoughts? These teams are always so fun when they when they play each other, but I, I think I. Think they're going to get their win I. Think they're going to make it through. I'll say to thorns I just feel like. Lindsey Horon is going to become a focal point of this tournament from this point on I I see her being someone who is just one of the standout I expect to see performance data, and because of that I see thorns. Thorns win. Here's well I'll go to nil for Portland, and finally the least and most interesting match up at the exact same time, skype lessee North Carolina courage. Kick this up the courage. They know exactly where they're sitting there sitting pretty for all they know they could sit this entire team and have the playground, the ambulance in the subway and the sunset and the farm, and the seats and black, because black book, the squad for this match up, and and it's all the same thing you have skype who finally. Finally pulled off. A win are looking to build on some momentum. have suddenly the potential to lock in a second Cedar Better. This is really interesting. These are two teams that could go a lot of different directions with things. There was a time where it felt like the finish here was very obvious. I don't think that's the case anymore, but Mike, who is winning the final early read matchup of the Challenge Cup? I think the courage rests a lot of their players, and they still win this thing to nil. Which? I have a feeling. You're picking the upset though I am picking. What's GonNa feel like an upset, but it's not really going one one draw on this for sky blue. It's going to feel like they won the whole. Damn thing I think they are going to put in some rest I think you're gonNA. See Sky Blue, putting in a strong attack with I expect him to take a lot of their heavies in and sub them probably toward the half to put in some. Some rest, but I think they just want to do. What no other squad could do up to this point and that is avoid losing to the courage, and that would be a win to them. That speaks big dividends right, it's it's winning a wrestling match by out, but sometimes that's what it takes, and that's what I expect is i? See A nil, nil draw, but it's GonNa feel like the upset of the tournament. Thus far because that's just the world we live in right now. Take take you can get all those things so so for. The next time we talk the the early round to be all through all the preliminary match done, we will know. The officials set up knockout round and it'll be time to talk final predictions the Challenge Cup. Then who knows what we're going to be talking about so much dive into your, but really quick Mike anything else. You want to bring table. Any thoughts impressions updates for we call it official day on this APP now this. This is great. I I agree. It was very great. This has been so much fun. It's been really enjoyable obviously the cells is done a lot to put this together sponsored to integrate job you know between Promotions Watch parties. I got to check out a watch party I'd be half royals FC earlier today at a lot of fun. That's an lot of great fans and really enjoy myself if you yourself are fan. Fan of team haven't had a chance to kick off your own or join watch. Party is really fun -At's dynamic there. Of course we have the show. If you WANNA, check us out. You've fallen over at a WWL pod finest anywhere else you podcast found if you are listening to us anywhere, that has some sort of comment rating system much like apple podcasts five surrogate absolutely love definitely. 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Encouraging Empowerment:

I Am Nat Noise with Nathalie Noisette

50:12 min | 11 months ago

Encouraging Empowerment:

"This episode is Near and dear to me with the rise of women empowerment events. I wanted to know what that meant for. Black Women. Many of the empowerment movement that have been held health for women over the years have not always included black and Brown people as women in the workplace looking to step into your own would that same empowerment extended to you. I take the rise in the women apartment movements as a sign that there is a need for them and that's why they've been successful for the most part now. It's easy for me to sit back and make an observation nation but what are the conversations that needs to be had around these bases. They aren't perfect but they are needed especially for black women. I don't know too many face basis basis for these women to just be. I fully accept that it could be a function of my ignorance that I'm blind to the space the resources but I've seen the complaints cattiness cattiness distrust and the cliqueish environment that leaves women feeling less than empowered. So what can be done about it. What aren't we doing or saying? I think I really want to know. I searched high and low one day. I made my way to to see if there were any podcast organizations or groups that truly catered to or or represented the needs of women in this generation. I found the millennial dialogue podcast three women. Michelle Linda Don. Their friendship really inspired me. They were the perfect fit for the conversation I was looking to have. They have been friends for some time now. and He's speaking with them pre show. I was convinced that I found the perfect group of women to speak to. The they were mature. They represented the demographic that needed so he reached they admitted their flaws but they were still dedicated to the work of developing and growing themselves. What struck me? Even more was that they had found a way to deconstruct the idea that black women don't get along they allow me to sit with them and unpack the real woman in parliament. Be Allowed me to sit with them. And unpack what real woman empowerment. Looks like they did that. Do their friendship and they also explain how it could be replicated in women empowerment harmeet spaces. I think if you episode you'll agree with me I present to you my mash up with the millennial dialogue podcast. So Oh we're sitting here today. Talking about women sister paramount. Like what that really looks like uh-huh there's been a lot of people about this kind of just trying to debunk was going on right now. This seems like a lot of women. Empowerment movements Tom Events Right Beijing beyond so I feel like that means that there is a desire or calling for because there's a park you it can fill limited Then on the other side. 'cause I liked I liked polarity as much as possible right MHM. Where's the balance because I also the other side? Oh this woman was mean to me then this. So maybe maybe there's an expectation for how it would look like Maybe this this person would be held. Accountable knitted Mike. How they're being held? Accountable you know. There are some women who is nasty. That's the thing says a lot of phonies right up to doing this right right. So how do we as women put on ourselves to Kinda like create the bounds your decipher. What's good for us? It was not until today. I have the millennium podcasts podcast. And we're gonNA talk about sisterhood. Because you guys have been friends for a number of years yes. I'm sure it hasn't always been easy unless you've traverse reverse and made it this far right Talk to me about what that looks like for you guys. Oh Wow I think since. We've I mean we've literally known each other for ten complicity. Yeah so we and we met young. Yes we're we've been able to grow as women and see the growth and I think just US three. Our personalities are very inclusive like. We're all about being real with your energy and so when you're around people like that I mean to me. That's the garden for growth not growth in atmosphere. Yeah friendship and I think we just had an episode about boundaries and I think we think about partnership you should set boundaries and you should partner with someone else who also agrees with your boundaries or share similar boundaries. I think for us. It just works over ten years. I won't say it's a frigid just like any relationship. We've had our times where you know. We've had our disagreements yet but we work work through that and I think when I think of just in general collaborate with someone you just gotTa make sure it's the right person and it's not necessarily always black women for me but I won't lie and say I agree. I agree with you. There is a disparity of black women colliding black woman so what so. What does that mean as far as as far as so you you want to make sure the right person you WanNa make sure you're putting yourself on people? How do you identify what that what is for you? How do you think conversations like? I think I'm always up for me. I was always open to hearing so But I gotTa make sure that you're in alignment with what my mission is. Let's my end result in. Are you in alignment with that. I think it is an energy but if I'm thinking on a business business standpoint like we just got to make sure we're on the same mission. I would say that the reason I feel like there's a disparity between black women. In collaboration with black women is just the history of being a black woman. And I think for me. It's because I'm a double minority right. I'm black and I'm a woman And oh I think there's a lot of history that goes into that with working women or women in back in the day colliding with just getting voting rights with white women and finding out that white white women wanted was not the same thing. Black women were rooting for black. Women wanted voting for all this Barry White Women. They weren't necessarily the hearing about black women in with about them. And I think with that. That's what builds a boundary for a black woman is. We've always had this history of love no matter what angle whether it's black men whether it's men in general whether it's white women and now our own black women we have a guard in a wall when just gotTA figure out. How can we break that down? Boss figure out who's right for you when no well. We can't skip the whole the friendship part on my end For me I think you mentioned it a little bit. Just openness conversation and desire -ment of of the character that you're talking to like I'm really really be. I listened in tensely on what someone is saying but most importantly their actions and hey for our friendship we are very transparent. It can be very uncomfortable now. I know at the end in the beginning of the day. These girls are going to give me the raw unfiltered true to help me be my best self. Because they know I'm on that journey in their on their journey so because of that is always a a mutual love and respect in openness. Wear after all these years I don't like And make me feel this way. Hi My apologies you know so just openness in friendship. That's how I think. Well I know that is will have sustained as thrives years that from what you're saying it sounds like that takes a lot of maturity. Yeah yes and that's a Lotta women. Even as adult women do not have Ryke we. We be an honest you you run across the caddy the unfriendly just the competitive to where none of that really even has to be a dynamic of any any type of relationship that we're going to have whether whether it be personal or business like that doesn't have to be a part of it but some women don't I think that they kind of thrive off of that and just like in my opinion. Then I'm not going to be able to work with you because I'm not gonna be able to reciprocate that because it messes with you my image. I'm not and I think it's understanding understanding that maturity and growth happens at different times for different people but what is not. My job is to stick into something and wait for you to mature and grow pro and I think a lot of people take that as a very harsh like I'm cutting you off but it's not necessarily that is just that at this time. We're not allying right so I gotta gotta find someone who is that balance. That is in that alignment with me. And then once. I know you're capable of this. Then we're have that open transparency of I'm GonNa tell you what boundaries are 'cause they'll be open enough to receive it also what I was just thinking shower talking. Nfl We briefly talked about this. Just US talking. But I I believe that a lot of the cattiness of our people it comes from their upbringing in See Your Momma and now talking about Susan may down the street and your subconscious. That's what you have become so you don't know that I'm really not not as open as I think that I'm portraying myself yet. You you hosted this event no baby girl you dealing with some baggage from big Mama announced on the porch So I think about that as far as you know the issues that women may have been open to other win because you are other people talk about other women so badly league growing up so in the vein of Gossiping which are how do you guys deal with okay. So let me backtrack a little bit. So I recently had a female friend. I found out dispose something to someone I don't know and it made me very uncomfortable. And we're not pointed out to her it. It was like defensive. I WanNa have this conversation with you because I felt violated. My Trust was violated. I don't think I don't even understand what context you even bring this up except for fallen tearing this information so it really brought up interesting dynamic. 'cause I'm like I feel betrayed right. This is mine to deal with. I guess the truth responding to situations so do you write. I'm thinking I'm dealing with maturity bothering this year tension but the response I'm getting his resistance in defensiveness rate. So how do you deal with Aso one because people some people like to talk right. That's the thing thanks to do with an also have you got savaged any boundaries around that is there like a system that you put in place. Because I don't want to tell everybody everything I think it's time to tell right. You have a system around that you guys have you established Boundaries Gossiping. Do you have a mutual understanding that this is is yeah. I think we can talk individually. Yeah we're different. The funny thing about our in our friendship is that we are all different in our different ways but we get along together so well and I think that's how Just because if you can in with different like me to other women who talk differently we all consistently have different over ten years as speaks volumes on our maturity and growth I feel like for me when it comes to gossiping and things like that like it's something in that situation happened to me. I am a person that I tailor my conversation to WHO I am talking to and I think for me taking time to learn that in communication if because I might have a friend that is more on the defensive mode uh-huh that I might have to talk to differently than someone who I know I can go in straight shooter and tell you exactly where they are stopping to to see how I feel and then telling me how they feel because they know I'm open so I think it's understanding the person so you can tailor your conversation and I think in that sense that she is defensive it probably would have been like opening opening it up and saying like happened to have a conversation is really not to break a friendship but I really wanted to have open conversation. I'M GONNA say how I felt you tell me what your thought processes but automatically I want us to reach a happy medium so we can grow this friendship and something of that nature. Now she continues. I have zero tolerance because we I I'm a lovable person. At least I would like to say I'm a level but I think I would rather sever ties if I know it's toxic than to dry on it become like a relationship if I'm dating a guy right if I continue to have on and off arguments the When we reach that really breaking point my cup is overflowing mine? So I'm probably. It's probably not going to be easy break-up I'm probably about to go. You know kill Carsoup. It's not necessarily but you get the concept. It's GONNA be worse. I would rather separate now peacefully than if I know you're not open to it later on but that's how I handle conversations or in that situation the conversation right I think I've all about action and so it tension means so much to me and I saw I pick up on like I know dogs personality to tea and Olinda personality to t- therefore there's almost without having to be said things that I know is a no. I'M NOT GONNA DO CERTAIN RAIN meal. Talk a little bit more than Donna and I but it's almost that's dumps personality but I know in then because of that. She's probably not going to want to share with my other veteran that has no ties between her and not about what she's got. Also I kind of feel like it's almost common sense was reno is not so common but to say I'm not I that's just not something I should share with Gloria Mandanas. An hour doesn't feed anything for glory to know that about Donner anything right. So it's kind of just romy intentions attention. What would be my intention? I speaking yeah they have no room to grow or any reason for me to plant that somewhere. Now not GONNA go. They're going to say it. 'cause I'm like gossip gossip because you out do this you cannot go. It is causing has passion abusive doll. I can't 'cause even just thinking about us. Three is none of that. If me and Linda Linda we're experiencing something I think I think maybe when we actually did experience something I was like well. I don't know Michelle told Ya you know now like it's what I said what we said desk ask back and then we all come together. I might know what has happened with them and vice versa and nothing where oh girl in dissent this hour. Michelle said this and even uh-huh stall in I just love my friends like my friends are really my family so anytime that we're all like all of my friends are together. I WANNA make sure everybody knows everybody. And it's like a great like that means a lot to me so even like my French art is machelle Chardonnay. In this I sound l.. Should I she's doing Da. Ah like this is love is really love and you know that they are open to like how she don't house son doing is cool like that gossip gossip. That's great they know we've shown right. Excel and I think Gossiping in general is all about perspective though the reason I say that is Michelle mentioned intentions intentions for telling someone else there. Sometimes I'm in a situation and I might call someone who's unbiased to the situation just to make sure I'm checking myself right. I am Intentional about who I'm telling is not someone that's going to go gossip and spread it on. That's going to be like Linda. You tripping get and then I say prospective because your friend her telling someone else might not have been in Gaza manner but getting her to explain her perception or why or her intentions. I mean just the negative intentions. You could decipher them from her explanation. And then move forward. But I won't say that I've never gone to someone. Someone on outside of the situation just shared with them as far. It's not about the other person is more of. I'm GonNa tell you what happened. I want you to tell me if I'm tripping accountability ability check me. Yeah right but noble. You're going to go right now. Miss Debating who. How do you know who to go to? And I'm asking for mathematics. The women who who who. Okay so I've noticed this is not a judgment. This is an observation. It is maketplace the fast friendships. I don't see how it works at me. Personally I think love love requires you to be able to really get an awesome of you can do which as I know who you're talking to observe them understand who you're dealing with right but but then for the woman who doesn't know what has that because I don't have friends. They didn't grow up with grand children or something like that. You know. They establish fabulous those relationships. How do they know who the right person is? Because they don't have anger you don't have a point of reference so context. So how'd you know. Give me some tangible. Who actionable had one notices align? Throw my hand Natalie kinds. It's so crazy this past year I had a friend and also in that story in a second but to answer your question I think I believe you can have fast friendships. Okay I just think that you get to know a person over time and I think you also have to understand when you're talking about friendships again intentions. They're offering friends to me. Friends are not all of them but their purpose for different things. I might meet a friend at work. That relationship is going to be different from someone who I met in college or someone who connected through another friend with like friendship serve purpose and I mean you just have to be open minded to believe like every friend isn't like family like where where where friends our families that you get members you get to choose but every friendship is different and I think deciphering that and I think I had a situation that happened this year where I Metaphor and and it was another friend and I just realized a lot of friends in our group. She was falling off with one by one Also I also realized she did not have a lot of friends to begin with and then she made the statement. Oh I have more guy friends. So it's really cool that you are a friend and we're so close over time That showed itself but for me. That's something to look into if you continuously sleep break relationships and you make a statement like I have more guy friends than I have female friends as a female. You have to start digging deeper and asking why and maybe it's not not that you sever that friendship. Maybe it's just it's purposeful. I am here. Everyone has to have a friend for different purposes of friend that encourages you a friend that you encourage though. Maybe I'm that infant. That encourages you to start building relationships and figuring out with you within yourself why you keep breaking friendships. So I think Burmese I am very mindful of you. Don't have a lot of friends. I think it's if you're the type of female who says that I don't battery female friends or you are someone who just doesn't have a lot of friends to me itself work like if you want bad then go to go be with people who are like minded go to people who have your same interest that where you know you start somewhere on the common ground it may overall be that way but start at a common ground because there has to be your intent right if you if your intention is to not have friends then do not allow people in your life or in that personal space. He's like that because something's GonNa grow from a relationship or connection with that is the point of it. So here's the Guy Friends I'm always I mean my boundaries are there and that's a hard for me you one of those girls who always hollering about hunger female friends. You probably. Don't get me as you said nope work like. Maybe he is that you don't have friends right now and you work on yourself. Whether that's going it there be and digging deeper and figuring out why you don't have a lot of what's going on with you. I always. That's the finger back at you. You're that type of person and to be the way. The solution to that is starting to common interests. like-minded something that look really interest you and go from there and something's gotTa grow for me. Yeah you're on his his online. Okay is something tangible you know they you said you know. Quick Friends Wow Recently a coworker actually In it it just go to work trying to get no friends. It just organically medically happened and like you said having things in common this particular co worker and I well first of all. When I go into work I will speak and it's funny because recently she said I didn't think you'd like me because you know you never say Good Morning I say I say good morning? You're saying back. I said well let me keep into my dance ease intially. I remember asking asking her like different questions but I remember from the very beginning when she started. I said Oh. I want to connect with her because I knew that she was talented in video. Art Raffi so I was like. Oh that's my friend but I was just I say that Oughta go me my friend friendly. I wanted to connect with her. Yeah but we just happened is a really organically connects away. What am I saying? I really love this she. Car Speier is amazing. I sat by her every day. And the the just the character who she is I was really shocked but like this is actually my friend but one thing about me is I would say out of say this to you. Don't say nobody else or I wouldn't say certain things and I might feel hurt a small thing to see from here back from anybody. 'cause I'M GONNA test joys Israel weight you know because you can't just tell everybody everything but I would test her in ways where I'm like. Okay well she she kept g on the head or you know what I know. You don't like this and that Don thank you because you're listening you know so taking your time but testing also along along the way to see if somebody's really who they say that they are like you say in time it's a it's a continuous thing getting to know a person and really a developing you know solid French all about action like you can talk. You can talk to you can tell you what are you. What are you going to do it? I I noticed that I'm a certain way with someone which should not. There's no risk crossing back. I'm not working for me. And I'd like that boundary from me. I illegal alcohol and I'm not talk about. I'm not a talker. Come back for real girl. What I was? It's out slung. Cool because like you show me your accent talk all day but if you can't back it up right and that's very important they. ooh I've heard that if you tell them something and they don't change and they just keep talking about it manipulation on the Policy College Yeah. I'm I'm a believer in that. I've told you one time and it's not not necessarily one time a situation comes up and then it's repeatedly at that point that's just who you are. You're taking advantage at that point because you know how I feel but you're not willing to budge in meet me halfway. At least it's right. Everything lucky wires and another a- tangible thing for real is be a contributor to the situation I is. You like have to have something to do with what you want something to do with. It makes total sense right if if one person is doing all the work mark. Is it really a relationship guest sitting at a woman. Do you know what hearing no the big piece so I wanted to talk about that because that takes a lot of to hear nozoe especially from somebody love I recently was talking to my cousin like like she. She titled Going Something Else. Like you have the power to say Pretty much your power is yes or no and then on top of that like is interesting. How sometimes who come to us with the expectation of already hearing yet right? So how do you guys work through telling no because that's that's says a rejection is the because it's a really big piece of relationships with friendships saying well. It looks different so it looks down because I no I right so two letters because just complete soon as we talked about but I make sure that off re you understand. Stand why I'm saying no. My my whole philosophy is like I'm affect type of person so I'm GONNA break it down to where you understand why it's it's not just because I said so right and even if it's a no without an explanation as far as your expectation in the maybe because I don't want do type of thing that you totally get that and if you are my friend thank you don't them deuces like yeah because she cut me off last week and I didn't even know what that it's not the ring because he's right back. I think I think you just have to be open to to me when I go to someone as question I think I'm open to hearing a yes or no and I think it's I actually recently watched this movie. I don't I love you guys. Watch the sun is also a star with Yara in it. It is a really good movie. But it's a movie that basically centers around fate right and so basically basically says that no is Mitt to no four reason and I'm a firm believer a whatever happens. There's a reason that that happened right. That no may lead you to a the bigger than you could have ever imagined somewhere else given the situation so for me. It's just I tried to take things as face value if I don't understand it that's when I start asking questions in in just having a friendship that's open to okay. I get why you're asking questions because I understand you right now and I'll be like okay. Keep moving the bothers me enough. Alvin she in the beginning. I'm really gonNA sock the earlier in thought about you and I What was it a week and a half ago? Can you ride with me. You're somewhere and so I'm like I'm staying in the country right now. I wanted to be there for my friend ally quickness girl you out in the country so now you can't Yay. Yeah yeah but I didn't know because I know that she wanted me to be there. But I had this thing where I might put somebody else's feelings before mine because I want to be present for them so I know working on Linda's definitely helped me with it. You don't even know what what you really are. You see 'cause self-preservation vacation a giver but you can only give so much you gotta take care of yourself bars. Your friends know that you love them in day. If you could you would you and I'm going to just like US early. It depends on your upbringing. 'cause I think Nigeria is very hard for me to ask people for help I don't think I even put my situation my in a lot of situations to even get a no and they were talking about like asking for something in getting a yes or no back I I think sometimes I like wait for someone to ask me in. Then I'm like automatically. God yes I think it's like once I get that power to ask for something something than that's when I'm open to like okay. It's either going to be a yes or no but at least ask ray okay does a really good point I figured this is just do relationships like when you were here now and you see how they respond you get to know the detail detail. Okay you know what you do you walk into this expecting a yes. When there's two sides every coin yeah the Katamon automatic possibility of and all those kind of bring? I'm glad that you got those into the did align with like these are real things happen relationship. Yeah you might feel reject But you have to hear Nelson Time right competition and uh-huh albums like Yeah should yeah I I knew another connection. I have a problem. You just the girl no. I don't think you're okay so when the gift came out I was in Costa Rica Right. I could not get the Wifi to works like watching these finnity. I was paid three so so problem number one airport. My wife I think on the plane no Wi fi okay. So so we touchdown in America. I made them from me for an hour for me to finish it and they will meet with. She likes to come on please. They finish their ass. I wanted to finish. I need to finish. They were they. Were going to buy food. But I could talk a whole episode. Bobby obviously we all trying to get this car. We need a link. We'll picture number serious business. It really is it really is a lab is our fears back from the album. They will take a little excerpt during the song where he talks about. How women are Kinda socialized to compete for attention? Men and not necessarily for that she ever work. Work on the Nigerian Mundane Ghazi. Yeah if you ever get a chance. Her work is and that's one thing that she definitely mentioned was the competition piece were meant to compete with each other as far as what society means means for us to do. But that's that's not even a thing. Why don't we compete for jobs? I don't compete for you know Resources or assets or other things like that Have you guys ever experienced compositional yourselves house and was in healthy way or was it in a way where we like. You know what I want to not feel right now in this friendship or in general yeah Plug on down as the author writes books. Americana is an amazing book But right I I would say yes. I have competition amongst friends But it's healthy competition at least from my standpoint. I can always speak for everyone else and again. I think you should have friends for different reasons right so I feel like again. You have friends who help encourage you to be the best you and you have friends that you helped encourage on the opposite end. I think I have different friends when he thinks the different competitions in because I'm competitive is not competition Titian as far as I wanna be you if competition as far as I'm going to elevate you so I shall here. Yeah so like ICU. Here I WANNA get here. It's just like they push me and challenged me to get there or vice versa. It's like I'm encouraging someone like. Hey I know you said you WANNA do. This House is going so I don't take competition as far as like a rice. Who can get there? I yeah it's more of a competition of like who can accomplish their goals and west push each other absolutely. Would you say competent. I think of it as a negative connotation has one. Yeah but when you said elevate I said definitely this for sure but other friends where I know that they have strived done their thing. I'm like girl you fire me tightened up you know that that ignites something inside of me because who wants to be left behind You know what I'm saying so if my friend can do it's not different than her. Because I see the hard work she putting so you can do it so it's it's no jealousies competition. You are aspiring to be my greatest deal. You're you're the blueprint right. Now thank you. I've had tons of virtues. Tips have ended because of people being competitive with me. But my thing is if it's not for the better man then what are we doing. aww I'M GONNA verbalize that no for me when it's time to cut it off cou I'm good okay. So this initiative happened. It is especially recipe. Was that President Bill Mike. It was me being competitive person. I'm like okay you see it as competitive as it is the better man. At the end of the day. This was going to be the outcome. Would you agree. You disagree degree because if you give me that what we can talk about if you don't agree with me then. This grisham no longer substance purpose in space that in accepting rain so I ended up because he spoke to lintas point earlier about relationships. Being like well you about being a garden of growth. In the fact that there hasn't been alignment. So that evolvement has to be an Hyman Raimo How do you know when you're no longer aligned? Oh wait you drained and you're a you. This garden is dry. You have not water did. I'm Congress for Yeah I'm constantly watering your guard and being there and I'm tired because you're not doing anything for me when it's that way runs gotten to that point I gracefully bail out especially it. There has been some things. What have communicated with you will why that added out of a bath? And there's no shift I'm done you know how love hearing grasset I'm picking up a theme reciprocity and as women unfortunately a lot of us don't amount will give glad that I'm hearing this themed because that's important super important so happy that you're saying that that in some degree. Yeah I'm like self-centered is it has a native connotation I am so self centered because it helps me stay grounded. I know me so well that in a situation when something happens. It's I'm able to say you're going to react like this. These are going to be your emotions about this but being open to hear someone else in the brakes to me if it enlightens me if it makes the better person I'm open I will stay here because I feel it. This is a place that helps me a ball and if it doesn't then I know there's no longer longer serves its purpose. 'cause I know me if if I'm already here one hundred in this part of a friendship or in this place then I don't need anything else there if you you do and I'm able to give that this. They're still gross. This still has to continue not in the vein of giving back. How do you know what you're contributing because it it? It is two ways right. How do you do you said you know yourself well? So do you know what contributes relationship. Yeah have have you identified that on the work to know like okay. Even if this person is only into everything I can't I can't give back to them. Yeah I think for me Just go back to the last night and then I'll answer down one. Is I think how I know. The In is a lack of ambition. Because I feel like what energy put into your own self goals the same same energy. If not less that you'll put into our friendship one. Yeah so that's in. That's how I feel like competitiveness Kinda ties into friendship is. If you're not pushing yourself how can you add to this friendship and usually you not pushing yourself. There is more deeply rooted things that deal with yourself and deals with our friendships. If you're not with goes back to answer answered that question is I know what I contribute because I feel like a relationship in a friendship is like an intimate relationship. You have to be home within yourself before you can come Um and you can complete someone else so for me. It's just like I know what I bring as a friend but also know who I am at the to go to Michelle's plane of like I know whoa boundaries are what my yesterday with my nose I. I know what I'm ambitious about and it helps to have that support from friends to push me like if you see me slipping or you know something else is going on and I'm not do. I need to set new goals. Like how's your goal. Are you okay. Because it's like power and checking on your already strong especially they don't like asking for things right. I think for me Now if it's out of constant elevation is like sitting in a circle full of people if give you the smartest person in the circled in you know. Change your environment. But if it's a constant togetherness we're constantly elevating. I feel like I could stay here forever right. There's no hurt in Disney right absolutely. Hey My brain is very analytical rate and I like to be able to to quantify things right so is there a way to quantify the growth. Oh I think everyone's different okay. Yeah but even with the differences is there a way to measure like actually like one and one are they gonna be too no matter how you spin this right but when when you're watching someone evolve. Is there a way to yeah. No that is happening. Those are like we're keeping score store now for our but how Connecticut Dry as one one is writing is their way to okay. So we're moving past this or you know we're going in this direction. Their weight actually inside that will qualify. Either that's going to say it sounds more of quality because we didn't use it quantity you are thinking members. Yeah I definitely have had friendships where we have a perfect example for six years we were not afraid like we saw But there wasn't for me. I am a stubborn person. I am super seven and I'm almost I think everything that is he's right so the island insight in right in in that it was just kind of be trying to myself. I actually asked like. Was that a friendship that you really wanted to ever in them. Balance the pros is totally away. The calm and I intern. They reached out to hurry from me. I was able to quantify because I never would have done. That's not me. I wouldn't have done it. I ve very very egotistical for that took a peace prize slice hung right like for me to have yet to reach out to her but it was because it was my heart ray song you know. It was my attempt to be friends with her right without qualified. Yeah and I thought so. It's interesting you say at that point. Maybe sometimes you have to go through a little discomfort in a friendship friendship to know. Hey this this is what it is an identifier like okay it. Would you say something last time. So you know you always say some strength in. I don't WANNA say Strength when we go through things like it's uncomfortable but our friendship are strengthened. When we're going through your income? It strengthens yes. Yes yes yes and I think that's the way that you can you know. Yeah I was easy. Yeah I agree with you is not gonna be I think I would measure is. I can't say that every single friendship again is the same. But if I had to put into measurement Because I like math too it would probably be like understanding. Everyone's there for a reason season lifetime so after I bucket what that friendship is. If it's a reason season our lifetime I determined the growth from there. I think if it's a friend for a lifetime you definitely can see more of a growth in have more of a judge of what growth is just because you really know that person where they started out from And as a friendship and you've seen how they've grown I could look at these ladies and say you know Tim plus years ago where we started out if I look at growth. We have grown immensely. Because we've known each other and been through so much but if somebody that's four reason maybe I met at work and it's a certain type of relationship there are short period of time Of course that growth is going to look different is a shorter time. Rain right And I also look it had to destiny's child is I think the power of our podcast is being three women is just just looking at the dynamic of destiny's child right Just from the members that they started with they were constantly you know make us it was life. They all like. They had to decipher like some of those girls. That hey this is not for me anymore. So they were there for a reason or season as things grew on they all went their separate ways ways because they figured out like. Hey where our goals were like. We're not aligned right. But they have that maturity to understand that and go their separate ways in their three of them. They're still friends friends. Not Along the same journey pad but they still stay connected and I think that's the power. No reason season lifetime and being mature of to say like. Hey It's not I cut you off. You cut me off. But we're just on different on different journeys and she almost if I could metaphor it in the term of links so with with friends if in in every different aspect of life if links can be added and we still have a connection. It's strong then. I can quantify the Lincoln like saying. Now you gotTa Start Right now. Donna come back you Google right right. Thank God but I can get this. I am so like I'm a kid at heart heart so my when I hear them talk. I'm just like wow. I'm just so impressed by them. My Damn free and then do you know I love you girl Solo from what I heard. I heard maturity person skills prosekey. I've heard Understanding love and for the most part I heard a safe space in space right. No Competition Gossiping. There's an understanding. But how do we take this information. He'll be package it so that we can create that same safe-space even though it's a short term interaction in these events in the group meetings. Were these women who are looking for something like this the for me. I love event like I absolutely absolutely love them so when I go twenty and even for us to create that first and foremost I'm big on do unto others as you have them do unto you so if I'm going into an event are people are coming to our even if you're going to feel so warm and welcomed where your guard is going to down east initially like what is this but you're going to feel a gene when kindred spirit amongst the people that are hosting so therefore from that point saying. I'm really like I'm shocked. I'm impressed it feels. Good it once you get that experience and knowing that okay okay. I WANNA come back to that baby girl okay. I can't assist you. Guys are very warm. Yeah and that's very scary for me. Yeah I am too. I am happy to society and be a person. Yeah Ed this has real but like you have very warm. So that's that is true. You can foster that. So what does warmth look like. You know is what the word that I'm gonNA use is community. So how have you were saying you have these events than after the event. What is there if you have a community if you build something you have to keep the connection and keep the communication that is what's Gumma a foster someone whether it's long distance or whatever you're going to be able to be like when I realized my niece when I call somebody I don't know something I can turn under this community and it gives me what it is that I'm looking for kind of? That's how you can package it. You know what I'm saying. They connected because that is what I mean. In that garden right to be the host the the plow the whatever that someone needs in order to continue to blessed continue to want to give to whatever it is is that you decided to create together a several things but first thing that comes to mind is like individually we have to unlearn earned. What we've learned or experience and I think that's it because I could host events all day? I can be as warm as possible as I can. But if you come in with the expectation that black women don't collaborate great. Well then you're not going to be able to receive. So that's what they learn like walking event in have no expectation right. Start at a I e even playing field but like for my Work what I do outside podcasting. We do a lot of learning and development In one one of the things that we teach when we consult is accountability in accountability. What it really is about is we can go below the line and talk about women? I'm in how they don't collaborate but then there's an above the line because the line is healthy. We can talk about what what's wrong but are you creating solution but ultimately have you pinpointed. Pointed what you're adding to the problem and that's why I say like you have to hold yourself accountable and being willing to fix it So what we can do. I think outside of here is start. Small kind of like what Michelle was. Alluding to committee is start small. Start with a small community in Bill. That report built that brand of what you're doing being genuine like Don said but then that small audience don't go bigger thinking about Iraq the whole world every woman is going to be singing Kumbaya Matata holding hands by. You gotTA start small with a goal in mind. Right and what's your goal and then from there the word will spread and then I think we can make changes by small. Strive absolutely have been awesome. Thank you learned a lot. Yeah Nia as far as your relationship and also how this can be applied in different context or anything is we're all different people right so that's super important and I hope that anyone who's listening listening understands that cleberation relationship between black women are possible faces to exist yes on plays. Where can they find? Mind you guy you can find the Sun Instagram at the official. MD P you can find us on facebook. The millennial dialogue podcast look get up and you can find us also on twitter the official. 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Errol Spence Jr vs Shawn Porter To UnifyBarclays?No PPV

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Errol Spence Jr vs Shawn Porter To UnifyBarclays?No PPV

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New name. We also stocked the quantities if the supplies you use most buy in bulk and get additional savings on fence pickets posts and concrete every day for your next job and every job after do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. See pro desk for details. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to another of the box and voice radio. I'm your host nest that gives formula Instagram ants would at Ness GTO is Friday night and with back with Samal boxing. It's official almost the fish you. It's going down the say in Dallas descended Brooklyn is into running stand up New York City trust the every of Philadelphia we come in bring this fight this unification bring into New York City, take it to Dallas a dozen matter as long as we know the two top welts awaits are getting in the ring together. This is what we're going to be talking about right here on the box and voice radio. Hashtag TBB podcast. 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And then the others like, I'm smarter faster. I can out work, man. I could scrap so yeah, Sean porter versus aerospace, hopefully in Brooklyn New York city because I will definitely attend. And we give an early petitions or we just talking about the fight being made. Let's go lugarda everything if you eggs me, but let's get on out to big, Mike. Production. Spots dot com. Stand up. Stuff were combined. Dot com. And. A week. Yeah. Anyway, what's going on? But somebody who's Garcia fight somebody who was there until the interest in it and say, hey, aero unit that to too big and bad to me, Sean porter. So time will be unifying from what we're hearing the WBZ had a tweet out said it's official. My comments came out. So hold on not too fast. Even though everything is close everything not yet finalized. But it seems I will begin WBZ IB of unification going on. I'm ready to talk about it. And I'm happy about it to about time. We see top PBC fighters at welterweight getting rain with Earl spins. Join. I mean, let's talk about it, man. I mean WBZ on come out and said that it's official. They're just waiting on a date and venue. So it seems like the parties have come to an agreement and finalisation of where the fight is gonna take place hasn't happened yet. Now, I know you were happy with the first rumor in Dallas explains everyone where that is capacity. And why you think it's a good fit? Well, now, my whole my whole mindset, it was I don't think that shot porter in Earls Penske, do the forty seven thousand forty eight thousand Mike Garcia, dear. So I feel like it could do more than the fourteen thousand than star arena. Did when he fought the guy is mandatory, Starwood a C can remember his name. No, no despite him. But it's going to seem like the most likely place in Dallas would be the the Amway arena or the Dallas Mavericks stadium where they can put between seventeen twenty thousand emit arena, which is perfect for this kind of fight everybody in Dallas. They're talking about it and get that. I believe that URL spins could do that those kind of numbers just based off him and him alone. We see him do against Campos. Campo campo. Yes. Kehoe I'll fucking his name. About fifteen thousand with accomplice in terms of tickets, and we as the casual fan, all you happy to hear that this is a non pay per view. Meaning it's not only pay per view. It's not gonna be free. It'll probably be Showtime or fucks. But you know, I mean, I'm casualising dumb. I know what non pay-per-view means. I'm just saying. I'm the casual fan forever in every sense of the word that if this fight world to be pay per view. I would probably pay to view it. And yeah, I'm I'm happy that it's not pay per view because you know, my my my cable Bill would not increase the seventy five eighty dollars at cost. But yet, I think this fight is easy to be made Ashok Paul Sean porn, Sean porta said after the your Denny's. You guys fight, you know, the easiest fight to make and it's a unification fight. So it makes sense. But to me, it makes sense in the Barclay center. Aerospace is known in New York City, and Brooklyn he's full many many times they're on the cards. And so has shown porter the fans do come out, and I expected to be capacity as well as on TV. It's a big spectacle to fighting again unification, and no names one is faster. I won't say. Faster but claims to be faster smarter stronger. Obviously Earl Spence who can also scrap and show a porta brings that nimble in your face Mexican style. Let's just say pressure and punches in bunches. So it makes to be a great fight, and Earl spans show super technicality versus a super technical Mikey Garcia, even though he was smaller. And if you're a Hammond, there's no way nothing there's no way. But if you're out Hayman, I would I would try to have this bite on FOX. We already season chump Puerto do three million with a key Thurman CBS, right? Show porter was on. Now, Sean porter and keep with on CBS. Oh, don't. Don't. The ratings, bro. I'm not saying about the rate. I'm saying about the the. A number goes in number three million Earls bears five million on NBC right before the Olympics. So that tells me that the the the everyday American who who have those channels already know these guys. So if you put it on FOX, I feel like you can really really capitalize. We seeing one point six or one point seven watch keep our man versus a low pass put Earls pants and the and Sean porter on five's guaranteed by five six million going going to end. Yeah. But see the thing out on the stand about that old guaranteed going tuna. And as that it's like baseball. If there's a met fan, they do bad met fans show up. You know, what I'm saying and boxing, I guarantee number especially with those. All times, man. Sometimes teams are good. And when they struggle fans don't necessarily show up unless you. Who's who's struggling? Here's Sean porter. He's not struggling he brings a crowd to to the Barclay center aerospace. He's not struggling he brings a crowd. My point. And was struggling is that people show up. So the fans are going up whether it'd be on FOX ESPN zone Showtime or pay per view. More people going show up if it's on FOX and more people going show up with this in Texas are Julia say yoda's belongs in Brooklyn. But I mean Earl is from Texas and he did good numbers versus oh compost. And he did great numbers versus Mike in Texas to take him out of Texas is only to be fair to the B side beat. Meaning we both champion. So we won't neutral ground. We knew right. Neither one of us often Brooklyn. Let's go there because we know they bring in good fight fans, and we could get eight to fifteen hopefully twenty thousand let's see if. Travel when I say the fans will show up. I'm talking about myself. I will show up regardless of the network, and I'm sure there are many many many people that will walk through a barber. Shop door doubt also show up. And of course, there's the dues that's still in stream it on on the negative side. But it don't matter. I know Barclay sent a I don't know, Texas. I think that the table is turned tweet from Sean from aero Spence meant he wants his terms and maybe his terms, Texas. And maybe that's why is close to being a done deal. So it may be taxes, and I'll still honestly speak in the tables been turned, you know, he say he said what he said about Shawn, and Shawn just doesn't have any facts to debunk that in terms of ticket sales so economically. It makes sense to put it where it may. Makes sense for Earl right? But I think it's also unless we get a big site feed-in, then as different because you know, when I'm site fees come kicking in. Well, who takes that that ain't Dan AIn early expense. No, it ain't an expense. But it will go to the check into the expenses you fill me. So it's like you is like a cash man, we want the bikes voice to perform Apollo. So then they gotta pay to get us out to Apollo, and they gotta pay us to perform on Apollo. I get it. But you know, that's when the ticket charge pays for the for that expense. You know, what I'm saying don't ever think that that expense ain't included on the ticket. The ticket sales who gets the ticket sales barklay or does the promoter because the promoters the one boasted fifteen thousand people here, that's fine. I pay two hundred dollars to sit ringside to see Danny saga. I mean, I'm sorry. Rod south versus Danny Garcia. You know, what I'm saying paid six hundred dollars. Now, I'm just saying the same seat is worth more money on a fight like this. So yeah. Yeah. The argument was. Where? I'm telling you don't think that the fan doesn't pay for that site fee. In the long run, you're saying all right. I mean, I guess I mean, you know, ultimately, pay for everything. What are you gonna think about the move of not being on pay per view? Do we think that that's just a reason because maybe many Pecci out in Birmingham? Maybe for that time period. I mean, I think it does have something to do with that. And also, you just don't wanna borrow it. Right. Like, I think they're just playing America around. Right. Like he's on he's off. He's on. He's like right early was on. Now, it's keeping impact gals turn been on the second one, pack out pack. Yeah. His his career. He's been on pay per view. You know, what I mean is only towards the end when Bob Erin was losing his grip HBO that you know, it went like that plus the opponents election, but when opponents demanded yet, it's pay per view, peck out versus the right opponents, always pay per view. Now now now, we know that this is being talked about that means that we won't be getting deterrance Crawford. Earl Spencer fired that we wanted this year and Bob Arum, according to Lance poke, mar the retrial him in have them worried, but nothing was revealed phone call so for right now. Maybe maybe Bob I already knew that this was going to happen, and it was drumming up interest and the fight like promoters. If both do I'm more say that I wouldn't say that because that ain't how I inserted the tweet last. Let me just finish every quick. I'm more excited about the possibility of any being out. And maybe Danny getting that fight with with parents Cooper, even though Bob said, then he wasn't opponent. But Bobby can't say that when you try to get him first before Amir Khan. I just don't think that that's even an option Mun. You know, you could do Danny Garcia vs Mikey Garcia. You know? There's no reason to go to anywhere anywhere else. You just don't need to just the bottom line. You know, I know people don't wanna hear that. But that's just the truth. Because if you take Danny across the street can he rebuild from that? Amy. I mean every time you take someone everytime. Like, you know, the day. No want one ideal. These guys are trying to get multiple fight deal. So I dunno. I dunno. If you happen, then he thirty. He only has two big fights for them. Aerospace in towns Cooper, a terrorist because it sounded to me five our T with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing incomes in three amazing flavors with zero sugar and four calories. It fits your life with its compact size import ability. 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It's only really too big fight from enough that that I ain't budget before I moved up to four is is Tarrant in Earl and now now now him saying it won't be deported. I'm not going here and fight Challah war or her I'm gonna be us of EPA for. Hey, man, if you going to do that he owns some Koto should. He got to get a winning order in order for him to move up though. Like cages move up to two fifty four. If he lost to everybody. I well two-way. I don't think. So I bet you got to redeem one of those losses before you move up because it's like, oh you lost, Sean. You lost the kief didn't if you lose to Terrence how could you move up and get a big fight. But we got a super chat from Joseph's, Bob. Don't matter the real super fight with Thurman will be what people want after the summer, and that's true because once Sturman knocks out Pak or Pak out knocks out Thurman. That's just the natural order things the winner. Spence porta will will want that fight before they want the crop of fight. They won that fight because it signifies more money. We got another one from Joseph saying American Airlines arena in Dallas make sense. I don't care. I love Dallas. I'm willing to go. So I just need to know in advance. Let me by my shit early. You know, let me in. The team get the right being Beatty's. Tom all the good stuff. We after what the day debate, June, July or August. You know, I thought I seen September our, no, okay. This. Me out was was was ally daughter birthday now she'll be down here. She's like she's been like the whole month of July down here with me. Okay. We got another one from Ohio runs boxing who says Ohio want that smoke. Let's go chump from Ohio even. Yeah. Akron, Ohio, aka Cleveland, because he's from Akron. But then he says he's from Cleveland. So nobody understood I wanna know what changed from the Kenny put her as Beck, offering paper view money. Offering more money this time, I told you before what could the way they do things if they can't give you all the money up front. They give you two. They don't tell you. You're going to get this fight. And your next fight of be another five million dollar fight in him said, nobody I gotta know what's going on chant only you at home. That's why they say thank you ally. These these I o PBC fighters are dumb yet. Real dumb. All. All of them so them, they got investments autumn so done. They got real estate all businesses. We got became, you know, the our Heyman show became, you know, financial adviser. You know, what I'm saying pretty much? That's what it been like, yo you going to make a mil don't blow it do the real estate, dude. This do that. We get you top dollar you go, and that's what they're doing. Which is great because you have out fighters. I von as complaining about Don King. You see other fighters, you know, when they do that behind the scenes, Dan, looking rich, as you know, Danny or you know, any other PBC fighter. They look well off, you know, they look like business owners and some of these dudes look like just fighters on and I'm talking about top ranked fighters saying they showed that behind the scenes they still got the little as crib for. So that's bad. That's bad business bra bra. Yo I'm even going to I even going to like dig into who little crib talk. Them out. But we just seen a little crib on top. Rank you ain't line. I know and I'm always shocked that because no you shot because you are regular big in mansion. Every day over the Joe and rega- in west orange. I. You really you really can't be showing him. No, Lou houses because he going to tell you. It's Lou how in on the east coast houses calls money over because you closer to New York. But I'm shocked. You know, I mean look at it like your, man. What? I want to get much. I'm just saying when they say out Haymond fighters Adum, you know, there was somebody that was like Dana Garcia tweet it. No, somebody tweeted something about Joe, Joe, go to Oscar de LA Hoya or Earl Spencer. Yo you don't treat black fighters. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I think someone some of the media money media, Danny Garcia about it. He was like, well, you know, it's a black man to make me rich, and he was talking about how listen I interviewed a angel angel was with golden boy, you know, what I'm saying. They had a catch Cavs to the conflict, then get to the conflict. There was a seven to one underdog. Right flights on short notice then get caused. That's why that's always talk that destiny should because he likes we self me. And nobody gives us nothing. You know wasn't loving him. Until he started proving it, you know. Yeah. You just brought it to. My mind what the question was the question was like when you will will delahoya Oscar, golden, boy, were you treat it. Well. And he was like, yo, you know, he didn't know what to do with my career a black man did. And I'm wealthy right now. Miami be in the part of Miami. That you buy manages purposely too hard taxes for you know, what I'm saying. Look it up Google it out him in his doing well by his fighters. You know what I'm saying? That's why he don't come out of whatever he's behind. You know, he got the Watsons for that URL help down era. Got a nice they're down. How down Dell. Another one from Ohio runs box who says Ohio runs boxing. Got my health and fucking Las Vegas. Come about it. And they probably got a suit line. Nothing. Do. Suit line. They do they do they do. And that's vice. Danny should be selling. Br I see a lot of the parallel Danny Danny is the next Miguel Koto or this generation's mcgaughey can't say necks. He's our generation ago KOTA because not only did he have a successful boxing career. And it still there is there and he's still talking about fighting into the fifty four pounds. Right. But he was able to spawn off his dad's career who after this is dad could possibly trained someone else based off name and then his twin sisters became. I don't know what they are. But they also. Awesome personalities. Him. You know what I'm saying? And they've done television already. So. Chat show me mad love on this show. Thank you very much. I'm not messages. Our someone said. On the Vegas. Don't look for me. I won't be out there. Sorry. Unfortunately, gossip spended, I'll be back. Yeah. Oh, but with the prediction, no. Like, what's what's the is? I mean, I know is too soon. Find some is let me see. On this food. I mean, it's too soon to have numbers, but you know, in your heart, you know, who you sided with our Maimon birth. Tough spot in boxing match ups. You choose your side. Even though you love, you ain't got no odds. They ain't gonna ask this. I'm a big fan fan. But but if the last I shall import more of a chance. I'm glad you actually came is because we were talking about it all fair like after that Garcia fighting him not being able to knock out Garcia. But porter also not being able to knock out Granados. Like, also guys. He didn't get knocked out. That was yes. Yes. So like this is. But that's still off really really hard fight. You know? Sean port. We sing get Keith Thurman. Somebody all up in your chest. Earl get up that ranges though. Yeah. But keep dominance a another stout at Dan work for Sean. I think I think show ERO EROs going to be the slick of fighter and there's going to be a lot of clutch in and a lot of clinching rather. And a lot of break it up. I have that feeling. I don't think so because Earl does bodywork. And so the Sean Sean England be trying to clinch when Earl trying to punch him to the body show him I have to be blocking and letting his own go. It's a that. Listen styles make fights I know on is in the best style. But in this particular fight, maybe it's going to end up being a good fight. It can be and sometimes even though arrowed in knockout, Mikey Garcia, Mikey was battered also might but Mike was also trying not to get knocked out to though. So is that going to be ported as Puerto going to put up his ear muffs? And just be like, you know, Mikey was doing that. He blocking block blocking portal might wanna fight back. How Earl going to react to that? They kind of pressure. I believe Puertas gonna put on in Puerto real good job too. So we we definitely see some jams then soda Spence, and Spence jab is like a punch, and they even like a jab, you know, way according to camp where he says his son has the best job in the division is put a. Every gay. So. Credentialed me. Yeah. Check out that that this that chat on a screen for you. Did they? Yes. What you me alive? What on a screen? Sean porter. I'll see that with that. Okay. H money. Any money is Levinson. Emily my man who toll while the truth. Oh, yeah. You know? I mean, but that that was just the truth. Not in addition spec for way, nobody wants Luis Ortiz. You know, we know the outcome of the first fight. I I wanted to see Brazil to be honest, but my name, my man, my mind spaced on the name. So I actually got it. Spades on the name because people got mad at you. We wanna see Brazil. Got got speak on like like, let l-lila bronze. Hundred. Look like. Bad. I was on a on on one. Funny. My. His his his bodyguard. Look extra cool security was like like he was the celebrity. You know what I mean? But fun. Chris's celebrities days. Yes. Did he did he remember, you know? The security. You remember me? But did he remember you look at me like this? Like, he's watching that crowd. But that was a great night for me. I had a good time. Yeah. So we got the Brazil fight. But Shawn porter aerospace is to fight, you know, it's going to be a scrap. And I think you know, they are both one of the five top two ways. You know? So definitely I don't even include. I don't even include any pack ya in that five definitely tables of turn dough all fifty fifty Bob Arum. Talk out the win ddo Jemaine. Are you serious? How? Oh, so the winner of this fight isn't clear Asia. Can you against the world in the in the welterweight division? Thurman, beats many pack. How'd you be the legend who you be? Yes, e. Hey, listen. He said now, you know, what happened is we talking about my Mans. That's the that's the most Danny is this generation Miguel Koto, then keep this generation do it. Flow into it racist fluid. This Jeddah rations fluid. That's right. I know I'm argument that going to keep Asia against elephants in Sean porter. Listen, I don't care as long as he Eisai's. All good. I thought she was trying to say 'cause I said no more that Bob fifty fifty shit. All three bills. Would you mean you tear is going to give the defending firefighter Raphael poorer yet for firehouse subs? Introducing new firehouse payers here. 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He over here doing American paper views, which equival more to them UK, pay per views. Stop that bullshit. Ain't doing view. What a number. Mike, Mike, Mike gum anyway, away numbers that way, your numbers that way a number set way in numbers that URL shit was hot forty eight hours later this shit was like four hundred four hundred. You should lie. Yo- nobody. I want Babo. Every every bad number so bad, the Bobby had nothing bad to say about how he said. Now, we talk we talk. And would the last part by say, I'm shot positive is positive. The fact that ain't NBN said is positive. You know what? Hold on Riquet. No matter who comes over a who is the man when it does clear on the PC side. When they fight qualifer as going to be more paper views than when they Earl Spence or or whatever those gals on top of you who whoever they fault is going to bigger numbers. So that that means tears comprehend the stake for fifty fifty because he brings over the value the same value that has right now. You bug. Haying value. But if he don't do numbers on pay per view equivalent to Earl he's done at the table in the negotiation room. Okay. If you don't believe that it's all good. You'll see business seven words for Bob. Bob, Ammon will be saying when the offers are put out and when offers he pushed him out now Bay, I ain't gonna be able to do it dang going to give him. No play. You know, he got to be the opposite side. He can't be the leader of the show y'all SIMS gotta tank on him this mile Fugger and using his ring to fight. And isn't it isn't a seven Brady might ten with them. They're moving around helping jab like a champion soda. Jab jab whoville, Mike. What's your early? Prediction of this. I got a Earl. Early pay numbers. They trying to hide. No Crawford and Condit ain't come out yet. Why they? About about two twenty. I saw that on a on a bootleg. Not on purpose though. I was on. I was in out earth is though. Yeah, I was an average on am. I want to see the fight. And somebody was at y'all got the box that you see all. The bug bugs and the box dollars. Put it box cost seventy dollars for the year. And his outta d auto. Word. I was like what? And we saw the fight and it was playing. That's how I sort of fight. So you know, I would have paid for it. Hopefully, that that view count it. As of you're a year. Islam count on them. Ten million? Streams? Some worth ninety thousand. Joe? To rate his five stars on itunes. Talk top rank. They don't go to barklay. They don't go to. They gotta go. They don't say look it is he's he's laughing. He said earlier pay-per-view star now laugh out loud. So he not at four hundred. I view thirty six sarcasm y'all three sixty still more than fluid chant Google Google. Like want to hate or anybody name PBC fight at haters. They hate us. But we won't go to the callers me. Hey. Go to my main y'all wanna know how is really feel about PBC go in and check out that episode. We had today with a with a guy. Jay Louise, Ortiz manager slash trainer. Stockbroker dog Walker cook. Chef also you never wanna get them back on the show. Thank. He was. He was brutally on his may. He always like shot straight, then she coach shit. And it was a great great interview. I just hate man that the way nets broke down to me, man. The way these contracts are like set up for people that are like trying to deflect, and I have a better life is pretty much downright criminal in my in my estimation. There should've just don't might notice at all. But it is what it is man. You sound bad deal. I guess you gotta play it out. I guess remember to write his five stars on itunes, YouTube dot com slash the foxing voice. The latest and greatest interviews with favorite fighters. These calls are brought to you by El Camino electrical services experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations in turnkey installation. Visit us at El Camino electrical services dot com. The hobby year on the line two mile. He don't come in Troy, Mike, Alabama. Dot com. No, you is a line as Nick you alive. And you'll body you'll body can't control where you lie. You gotta tell you. Start stuttering hardest. Fuck where you in the lot. You. Say that fifty fifty cents. I must pants coffered. That's it would not come out your mouth. Below more. Nick stop. Oh, no not. Colfer? Rome. I forgot views and then to you combine equal guy. Lipa get out of here. Mike Thomas, fifty fifty Tom. I what I do is. A lot of people credit in that that show up pay per view to Mikey Garcia eight. Matter where you win Floyd did his highest pay-per-view we could accredited into Cannella, but we didn't we say. How many? You know, anything about how many? What how many you his first? Ninety. We came fifty thousand thousand. Arrowhead more people in no Rena. Will he fought tens had his mouth? Look, I I view Bosnia. My goofy Muslim terrorists coming. He's gonna get fifty fifty you crazy as hell that Nick don't desert twenty this bum. Teachers got man, they get on desert fifty fifty that nigga desert about how much. How much are we giving nightmare? Why are you trying to hate on your man? Started lying here. Anybody from the BBC side's gonna be fifty fifty with Bob yell. Evelyn back said Ness, come to the UK, bro. Her and we'll give you work. I want some work, man. I want some early adminis- people raining tears about attempt campaign view, and how that was. Cruiser. Copay? Fell's from street coming. You need to know about me coming with that. Yellow TV was good. Aimless? Chose arrow chill. To see him in a minute. You know what I'm saying? That's cool fight eat the way, you know, saying that if nothing is right on top it solidify Aero's is a Comey with some bell stale still at one in fighting whoever fight all are good names. PVC? How mean nations percentage might just go down past sixty forty. So you need to get them to go. She ate harder took some real work because looking good one. Right. Not on that top right side of the street. And like I say, I'm I'm across fan, but you know care may stars in let them go to become big nice crossing that contract. So you can make little hell. Idea. Wanna take a second? You say what say you also a port a fan. Your. I became more of a Puerto fan after that Garcia financially white boxes that you know, being too aggressive smarter this points. And so I don't pick you work against Goss noon to be honest. I don't really think he stands a big chance to get space. He stirs being able to jab him out, but Krio control assistance beat up to the body breakdown. So, but it's still a good fighting. Visit is Tony see unification to be honest. I rather see Dallas personally 'cause it's cheaper for me to get the Dallas to New York and Arjun either when the call when I get there instead of Oberlin. Straight. But I wanna take a second. I caught a say recipes, you know, saying that can doses blessed of the family Oliver here over the UK. I know he passed away, you know, say for the block box. That's a loss. Too much contoss will which. Always say, please make sure you put up this year this area soda, the blocks. Of course, podcast push one. You know when you're back. Stainless stainless is g. He took. Oh, boo. Bring to have our push one too low. I'll be back. I bose. Down long ago. Let's go to Texas homers space. No my. But. Go you. Man. One of the five of all wanted to earth. Spent get you know, before he go to call an like a fireman. It was like a ladder that I want him to call up instead of just doing pass go and collecting two hundred dollars and going straight for the terminal fight like everybody would call them for. You know in my head. I was like man what I don't go up the ladder like, you know, like like Thurman did. But. Got it. Hey, listen, if the good fight, I see voter kinda bring the pressure with mother, and it functions as you. As far as Crawford. Man. He is on the other side is street again. Like everybody say, I don't know why he signed that that contract when it's not in his best interest. You know? And and I don't understand watch a mall is waiting to go on. What you what are you waiting for? That's what you belong at all the middleweights. So, you know, as far as the Crawford, you know, go where all the the wealth away. It makes you I don't know why he being loyal to them. But that's all I got I Jedi. You know? That's a great point that we battle with Mike all man because for Jamaal Charles. Oh, Mike has the energy that that's where Charles should go to design. You know tonight. Dan cannot talk. I'm not trying to pay me. Well, then you can come in right behind me and say, I never said that like I'm just go to super chair this how you decide to try to win arguments is so they can remember that statement. Remember what I'm saying? On a super chat wise j clearly mad. I put TB for life on other YouTube channels laugh, I LA you mad mad, ma'am. As just like my Illinois by talk man, damn. Anthony, Julian putting on a box Clinton moving too much. He looking like Oscar versus Tito Trinidad come on get the fuck off this Vaughn Alexander. Like what's going on right now? Guy here this if I were you supposed to be moving down. So like is this telling us that you power doesn't carry? I don't know. But let me go out to Robert Boney, yon Skype talk to me. Robert. Yell was getting my goodness. I was just listening. But man, I'm so I'm excited about this fight, man. This is takeover has begun spits snus collecting, I know quarter, a no pork get it in. But I just think it's too fast strong. Nikki catch one of them uppercuts coming inside and put a hurting on them. But I'm just gonna listen to the rest of the show. Guys, y'all guys have a safe and great weekend. Thank you for tuning in. As always Robert we're going to. Looks like new color. No, good dot com. Sure. Dad? Yes. Going aboard Mr. zone hates money. The box the voice out the nineteen year. I got the cat on my boy. You know what I'm saying? You can't he came you came like a real nigga. You know, what I'm saying just how you came to wilder. I wouldn't do the same thing. You know, what I'm playing you. Hear me, bro. He stepped away for. Hey, okay. But I get into the topic. You know, what I'm saying Earl Spencer Burgess shot importer? That's an easy fight nets. You know that the easy fight. No aerosmith. No knock him out. You know, Puerto he likes to run in. He likes to bring that pressure. He going run into a left hook. You know what I'm saying? He's going to run into other could a counterpunch. You know what I'm saying? He won't get down. Before. He got drawn by Adrian Browner in Keith army heard him you watch every fight. You know what I'm saying? He's hurting draw in you know. Earls pens can get on Mike. What's going on? Now. I he he he is good now that even worse while rounds ads beaten, he's done, you know, his trying to stop the fight. But a, you know, I'm a fan of everybody, you know? But I wanna thank the show because this show is powerful. You know, this, you know, Steve. We definitely try to get you on with his own. I'm trying to start petition got them zone for for them. Spokeperson y'all niece. New new dissolved commercials. Right. I got the perfect person for your missed a dissolve SCO out to Gary in Texas. What? Going on here. Gary. Aac dissolve age. Gary. Gary going once. Twice three times SIA. We're going Casey. Sky talk to me KC or like case. Your. And I just want to say, you know, two years ago. Did you think? So so you do know we're talking Earl Spence and the. Point. Yeah. Baby secure. I'm trying to see is two years ago on for the until Alba's a fifty sixty eight same goals with them terrorists. I, but we're not we're not we're not two years into the future. We're right now. And we're saying right now tennis golf is not a fifty fifty five years from now. Cool. Well. Right now for you. But you're promoted tried to make it happen right now. Call. The business. Is big fights. Floyd made the blueprint it takes it as too big fight. So if you're honest, it's not gonna happen in the next two years terrorist, coffin aerospace. So if. Down to that. It was he touched his name Tonto Joshua. So. So. Types another. Casey. I get what you're saying. This is what out so you, right? It's it's up to Mike is Mike in Crawford fans to push Crawford to do a today 'cause you're right while the test is named Joshua. According to you, and your coal if that's what he did to raise his profile within. That's what Crawford needs to do to raise his profile book. Is different. He's not the call out type in the talk. You know, he's not like wild it. He's not gonna do. Barbara m can notice date that that the the he's not that boisterous? So what can I do to try to improve this? I can get on bass. They call that were last night. Grandpa can report on everybody was talking about it. What was a guy some kind of put out there right around. What was it? Among how bam said, oh, hey, MS now, real how having the cancer or how Bobby says the person holding this fight reporters reported on it? So therefore when you really into the story. Earls pants and Terence cofferdam detach. So therefore it builds up the fight and drug interest in we did Bob nobody doing because he cow Alba's week. If I was really upset if that was really pissed off our took his car bra. Like this to be smelling like Yeah. You do. Soon as you as you do the G GV alabam year. Bob. No, I'm calling. I'm going. I'm calling to make the. I think it's fifty fifty. You'll say shit else. Too dumb as sit there. Wait. Let's get to some callers man, riding. Never mind that job never mind that job, I chant. I missed doesn't Mr. his own. Hey, guys. I think Earls fans five imported the great fight excited. Mike, you're right. I think they should bring it to American Airlines arena here. The Dallas Mavericks put about twenty in there. I think some port in in Earl spans and do twenty easy after tended to the the last fight. It was a lot of Earls management in there. I went to the way in the way in was probably eighty twenty Mikey Garcia fans. The Earl spans fans, but then a night of the fight. It was probably sixty forty forty five fifty five something like that. You know? So I think he can do twenty in that stadium. I think Earl the stop him because he won't go into defensive not to get knocked out mo- like Mikey Garcia because that's not a more victory for some imported some important. Gotta come to win there. There will be no that wouldn't be a moral victory. For some porter just by going to around. So I think he eventually stopped them. The cropper situation is not is not fifty fifty right now. Mike, I hate to say I love Crawford. But it's not fifty fifty is more like sixty forty right now. And if Earle dude this fight, and he dominates a porter and fill out their stadium. And they do three to four million on FOX is probably going to be more like thirty five sixty five joking. What I say sixty forty five that's my car. Right. Rod. Thanks for calling in. We're going to path past supporter in the Nola on the. They know every time I'm sitting schilling doing some mites. Spiders golfing? Some say bullish again spoken and every time I got on the box. No matter. What time I just hear Mike saying that Bush about coughing much reason why wilder? Got to rise. Leila's because you have people who are going to fight the builders credibility for your man to be fifty fifty Bob gotta go against his character. You've been doing since nineteen twenty two whenever he was born on. No when he was born he was going to some error that they will say that that black guy, you know, that's your promoting remember that. But my man who you pay is your Z by the break off Garcia with a eight nine million dollar check. I don't think. So is you buy the break off? Uganda's may be that'd be respectable. But he might lose on that one. Then they know that in easy. No, easy, go through. So who your I wanna know if he goes fifty fifty in two years who is this this playing or go through to build his reputation that actually boxer fans respect other than nut huggers from ESPN? I would like to know Mike who. Don't be mad going be probably Danny coming up pretty soon. So he paint painting. Probably pause east birthday. Is your mangled pay eight to nine dollars Danny then another unless I like pay per view. Maybe maybe Danny company table say on the up upside something like that. Okay. I'd probably probably in the fight and kill also. Then after that. I mean, it just all is probably up to them how they want to navigate the, you know Santa kit. Always never know who's coming down the pipeline. You're you're making you're making. Hey, you making your Mansa like a heavyweight and heavy his ain't got a lot of pick from. He got a lot of the pick from until. You'll you'll be heard. Pay right now. We heard PBC Sade. But they they had business right now. So because those guys don't wanna fight them. You you. You got. No, no, say, right. Those guys will wanna fight him because they have great fights lineup already with people that they actually go make. That's. Say we not. What's the if I right now? John porter. Earls panther aerospace giants. I understand you delusional world. Enjoy this will cause might just the wrong guy. Credibility everyday. And remember, everybody did not mind. Report eight out by pay-per-view for online. So that ninety thousand that's come out might wasn't a part of it. Other done. I ran out in that. So you got up next. All righty. Then looks like we got heavier on the boomerang status says. No, I don't feel hurt. But when I say early Seattle, he back for seconds. Anyway, I. I know what you mean. What? Oil. We're about me. We're about yourself whereabouts. Bomas champ. Tents all saying I heard you say keep third me. Aby. Jindo? I don't give a fuck. What do use that nigga is not being old aspect here? Don't do. Louis when he beat Mike Tyson might one is is pack. Yeah. Don't do that. No way. But he wasn't in the game. How mike? How might? You mean that wasn't in the game has meant to his mind. How old Mike daddy? Something back yard, forty only. Anyways, therm would not be no Eisai if he'd beaten off pack gal that nigga still be a seaside. Man. Show you on about box. Hey, hey, have you have you done? Let me tell you something. You could it. Cut before. No. That was his minute thirty listen, we got a super chaff from Evelyn again and says, Mike, you inspire us all. How much you have learned that is true mice become a fucking hardcore. That's pro goes to show of you just watch fight. You get great like, Mike, Mike. I better advice for Mike. Now. That's the crazy part like every now, and then I can take shots because he doesn't know is like me. It's like when I start like, I don't know history. And I ain't going back to watch history. Just like him. He ain't going back to Washington they did. But he watch everything here now, and he got it on cap. So yeah, listen, the Mike mice days mica second Evelyn because I was saying the same thing yesterday. I was like damn might going in on on, you know, the stats and the the room that needs to be filled and everything else. So might you. Did learn a lot on God and beg. I appreciate it. I try. Doing thing champ. So okay. So I was going to debunk have year leggings boy. What happened was this? He says, oh has he done a pay per view. Troy, you have impressed one. Troy. That's why go to you chant press one. If you wanna talk. So he says he hasn't done a pay per view. How could he be Eisai if he doesn't pay versus pack Yao and does more pay per views. That means he's commercially more known, plus pack hours, a household name, not Mikey Garcia. Plus, he was the former unified champion. He was unified before Earl was even fucking a prospect. So like go to sleep somewhere and learn about boxing, but in in the meantime, we're gonna go out to. Choi has impressed one. So we go into rhyme stone rhyme, stone Skype cowboy. Rancho. Loop-attack came back into Bill Mike, first of all let me say was the cash. Things. You miss connected. You know who else this connect the Crawford. I like Crawford as a fighter do. Well. He don't. Don't. TV Brian met call that's cool with that. He's like more connected to the fans in Paris as a mile be, Matt. That's true. None of us. He will never be like wilder wilder stands for the people. You will never your offer say men about to this day why? Because he got people to ask to like, Bob Arum. Modern ain't got nobody answer to win came say fail. The offer connected for Fayence from the people in NASA. His biggest issue he needs to come. He's thing is you'd like him. You fight. I fight outside of that. Don't ask me to do to do. None extra. None of the exiting out of there. That's why I'm staying with a Soto in the fucking ring. We got a super chaff from. Man hunt. A man hunt. All right. I guess or men hunt. I don't know if you guys would have seen the spends port of Spar, you wouldn't say this is a good fight. Sean is the same guy, but EJ has grown since then hashtag, no shot. You obviously never been in the ring spun in fight is two different things to different things as might be fearful influenced good. I have been canal way as buyer. You know? I don't know about that. But let's go out to Decatur Georgia. I mean. Had. Man. I ain't got too much to say today. I just want everybody to remember is Bob is the problem when they Kanda God downtown's Crawford Earl goes up so already people who act came weight to the Dave eat, motherfuckers fight. Because all I k- way dotty Collins Nali, China, given this useful. Why tears headwind, and where have I can't wait. So again, like, I say, my we don't get Garcia you. We gig speed. We don't give part and anybody who I want Gaza Knicks, by the way, I won't got. So if you listen, my nigga collar, guys, let's get people something else to talk about our talk about it became a judge anything on that. Hey, man, listen, Bob already put the seeds out there telling you he was gonna get guys may told you guys was better than pota- and his record, man. So, you know, we'll see we'll see does he make it happen form. He needs to but he already invested in Colosio Collazo tune-up. So I'm sure Collazo I seen them in Puerto Rico chilling on vacation. So I'm sure he's going after this tune up. He's going to get in there with, you know, wits Harris, I think I won't Danny for the record Danny Garcia, come on. You can't afford, Danny? We can't afford any. No, how did they need to get better? How much do they need to get better? Listen, first of all you going to get Danny. You gotta be doing at least three hundred and pay per views, bro. You can't keep doing dud numbers. I dance dance partner to to to Goodell. Then maybe they, but they ain't going to send public man. I mean anytime you have people like nice new accident. John action mccone how it is chango hold up with apple fucking TV people that they're right. There is still to defy down those factors. Biza fans knew that this wasn't going be. But that's the way it was. The door. That's what he was telling you do a web of motives promoters can't lie anymore, and we shouldn't allow them to like we always should have the same energy that come was a joke conned needed to fight someone else before fighting. But that's what con does best. He sits around and waste for big fight. Listen to him. Oh, Brooke and Thurman, Faisal still there for me. I mean, my man is crazy. He's crazy. Super chat firm. Slicks? Bre stream is lagging laugh aloud emoji smiley emoji. So Umberto Soto in. Vargas in the ring and already clash aheads. Let's go to daddy. Green on Skype. Daddy, green going once you on muted already. You just gotta talk twice. Joe? Yo I'm Bert though. By the brain the pain. Oh my God. What if he stopped Vargas? They bill. Would you mean bell? I only watch about maybe to have a like pulpit mass house. Oh. He said he's Bill for Crawford. He gave Paki out at five vir- Jeff on in Australia. New you've not at decision there. Here comes coughing at one forty seven and he gets out of media title fight, easy fight about from on. And now he chappie what three five. So that's why you don't hold no way. You know, what we call them? Let's be real though, pack out and Crawford for hone and they both look the same like coughing may that she looked dumb easy. Sure he did Pecci beat on though. Just logging shot. This thing. Jad? Oh shit. They owed a robbed Umbro how to fuck is that not a knockdown? He. Initial how to fuck is that not a knock, but he just waved his hand that that was that was like a fucking jab to the stomach stabbed Jabra. I don't even understand what happened right there. On the data as we call them. We kinda like spent ninety he lying. Ad. And. Could the top rank he put career height? Nobody. No. Co. But is. I know this is coming out. Yeah. That's be out even drink either. I don't know. But nothing no light, no ice. None of that shit, corona man over here champ. But yeoman is over my we did it again. Let me make sure I know supertaster let out but of the net Ness GTO is to grandma Twitter. Thanks for tuning in. We back to mall Boorda wars. Ten AM. Don't be squid there on the most super Tasso year. 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Hour 2:Dick Powell

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Dr tension towards some international events and dick Powell joins us. The Hong Kong derby last week and the course deck long associated with Dubai and the even back to the origins of the World Cup looking forward to Saturday deck morning. Lovely day out here in the northeast. Again, a load of spring like the Hong kind every couple of Saturdays ago. Right. And it it kinda turned into interesting rights in the sense that by coup who is the favorite you post team. Now, I'm painting seeing the show a lot of speed and take it will maybe get over from there. Well, they didn't even try. They took him back. He was second last most of the trip he made a huge late run. But it only was able to get him second in the previous Fono. He bombing who is winches regular writer not enough that, you know, use lighting. The end the imaginable big horse, including wings, thirty one thirty two and around in comes in and pick up the mount of fakey law on the nice, sixty one chat. He does wound up getting better trip from Trump Bowman place much closer to the pace than Joe Moreira did with the white kacoos and he pulls off the mile upset in the Hong Kong. Very we have four hundred voices in by on Saturday southern legend in Dubai tariff. Goalmouth even the two mile Gold Cup. Wishful thinking is in the outcasts turf. Spent and tribe hero is in the golden shape. Yesterday. We had racing Happy Valley and the race card was you assortment of Ron levels unusual yesterday was when you get the running time some reason the sprint races were very fast. And if they weren't very they were certainly fast on par with what they should be. But the distances mazing Lee sell them, sixteen hundred meter miles being run at one thirty nine one forty glacial I corners. So I don't know what was going on with the distance races for the sprint races. A quick Jack pert and continues to dominate the right expanding the head by twenty eight when he had two more yesterday's so vested Assisi's now gone from he'll be writing in Europe and plot season on the way over there. So he's out of Hong Kong CYO had to win yesterday. See one one two that's tough when you're right that there and. Pardon? Just just just making a mockery of the Reina family. You have to jump era at one a couple of titles in the row. So we had nice place in Hong Kong yesterday at Happy Valley. The action switches to shock him this Sunday early Sunday morning frost here in the Martha. And we like to. On some that's card race to is a class five zero to forty ratings and these parentally get not always I started. This is rabble wanna rates, obviously on rated very highly. It's it's kinda tough to pick these out with the lack of form. But I don't know why gravitate to this. But I might limit five. Royal prerogative McCarron's ride was one and rain that ran on the all weather track to starts back going twelve hundred meters than run, particularly well, and they put blankets back on last time out of shot ten on the turf going forty million meters and showed a lot of speed before weakening lakes. He's kinda part of. Blanket. Search the first role within four legs of each other. I like the fact that he's been taking money, and if it was he's gonna have to move up to forty sexy. But I think he ready to be so so that's gonna try perogatives on the him. We will use them twelve on the five all little fantasy carrots Keaton rides since one comes off of tutoring. Good salad races as ratings for some reason, pretty bad. He's only tearing a hundred twenty pounds of major vantage for number twelve. Even only going sexy hundred meters. That's that's a big way shift, and we'll also use member tree money Marshall and Patrick O'Sullivan stable. Just looks like them. He has enough class to get into the money is gonna be five twelve ten. In the race Mathu shot him on Sunday. And that will move on the race number seven little bit better race of the class. Three ratings of sixty eighty. I'm outside his solo. Why why Zach burns going to ride this one Frankie law their potent combination ran against forty two sixties eight-pack level to that last time out against this level from Costa Levin was very good second. So just nothing wrong with that race gets 'cause eighteen pounds which should help. And I think solo why why has enough speed and pace stay up live believe this is gonna be a long sprint around the the one right in turn on the one. We're going to fat turtle. Great name. I've never seen skinny girl has often come posts thirteen, but this show a lot of speed despite being bumped at the start. I've no idea how inherently fast this one is a multi keys quick enough to get over from that talents are carrots Keaton, and Barry, we're going number one champions way who was. Undefeated and tree starts John's signs trained. Joe Moreira ride. They pick up some weight here because he even up to actually gonna be additive class. He's he's right on the edge with eighty waiting, and he draws post twelve but doesn't have the speed that the that the two have some post berry teams, I think that's going to back to more than fat turtles of race seven. We're gonna go a little bit of an upset in eleven Sola way way on the Alan the matuyama turtle and third number one champions way end invive, which ended up signing, Texas, but they they had hailstorms there that made the road like auburn's people driving down the street with ice then can make snow after the ham that much so they've had a series a crazy thunderstorms hit by coming in off the Persian Gulf and the media accounts that I was reading this morning that the club was send the. How sad it was still raining this morning. I don't think it's gonna rain on Saturday. So I think that probably be I think that probably going to be okay. Cried and Saturday, but the good news is that that should tighten up the track that the by just has a history of because of the sun beating down on it. The track is kind of drying Cuffy and on the main track to last place. You really wanna be is down on the inside with getting the kickback taste well with all the moisture that should hold that down. So some of the normal in decapa and. Factors that I put into divide reysen. I don't think going to be there at least on the main track. So some of the races on and so are the last two years ago when they had the very wet Turk. The dealer arrogant won the World Cup. The turf course was just a mess with breaking out from under them Highland real just a world travel. Always bring Vega. He ran Doug lasts. He couldn't amyloid her slippery slow. I don't know what it's going to be like Saturday, but certainly not going to be calm on or the usual condition. Good per. So that's gonna be interesting. Have how this crazy weather over. There is going to back Saturday's races. So please pay attention to that Saturday morning. And you might wanna watch the first even if you've got to watch the raving lays early on just to see what the what the track is looking like, and then they get off for miles should give an indication of how the track plan. I run for the racist divide goal Cup, two miles and lo and behold the Melbourne Cup one cross counter as been waiting by Charlie Appleby. So you get to see a Melbourne Cup winner. What's interesting with them? Stephen. He was a tree role. When he won the Melbourne. Come on right on Cup. One is older five years old. It's perfect age. He wanted three after already has a mount I'm sure he's going to try to kind of negotiate a campaign to get back to Melbourne. But this is a nice spot, especially the run before the home crowd, shake themselves and stuff like that. Across counter is in the the by don't cut one interesting horse, and I won't put a couple of dollars on it. Marina Rasco from Mike the cock. And he's been kind of sneaking up on everyone with free starts during the carnival. Each is a little bit better than the last now based on his carnival racing. Certainly not ready for a group one win. But based on his South African for him. He won the joy Cup Durban. So he has lots of backlash and the Cocteau races horses the shape. This kind of has the classic pattern of those poison that we've seen pay well over divide on the big night. He Al 'cause Brandt civilans and the Pera for that. And it's kind of like a war war, the world's stormy liberal United States best turf sprint against blue point Europe's best turf sprinter, they're going to knock heads, and that's going to be just a tremendous thing to watch that's going to be on the straightaway. And we'll see where the riders go. Now, you won't get any clue as to where they're gonna go. 'cause they might go to the grand Chan side fans may might go to. Of the other side fans, and we'll see where they group up the new I Darby, all I can say this. Fourteen horses government on sixteen and some of the better ones inside walking on the dribble lamb. Normally, I would just I would just start that that would be. That was shot right him from around. 'cause we they're gonna have to gun to the front and use too much energy always gonna you know, the the get carried out and lose grown every step. But if the track has this much moisture, and I'm not saying it's gonna be sloppy track Saturday, but it's a great thing that you've gotten mother nature to cooperate and get that kind of moisture and the race walking was. You know, the talking to carnival the first three races and didn't run well in the two thousand Guineas, but he's though season American bridge on violence and gaining lady. And the kid Frankie Dettori draws the inside stretches out and distance attractive. Okay. He should be fun. From the rail the big the big horses, divine image from your mouth, and this is the scat baddie Philly who was one last two. She beat the boys and the outback year last time out by almost eight lengths going today's distance seem the scat bad. He's go from any as whether it's Mendelssohn. Another twist of they just seem to be able to run or anybody wanna tragic was has has about was a couple of years ago because he was just been a monster chart for the rest of his life, but divine image, it looks like the one to beat his Stubbins is in here from the. Demille scrolling. Neil comes in off three straight win Boca's made him to win state swim. Last time out of the interesting course for me has clue Cape. And you know, he's. The fag room. The fag remain track can can be a little quirky. It's great to train on it safe. It's perfect for all those reasons, but not everyone grabs it, and he had been running great Churchillian Keeneland going into the pair grown. He ran into war. Will I think very smart to ship over here for two point five million purse bread led to go a lot longer than that's being by point of entry. I think he could be a wakeup call in a loan. Luckily has Jose. In writing. So that'll that'll be fun to watch. But I I just don't have any strong feelings knowing how fourteen horses on the track and not knowing what the tracking to be like is make makes it of concern. I'm sorry to hear about ROY age. Because I there's golden she him the first inside full horses were before it has scratch. Breeders Cup won the last two years. Clearly, the best force in the mountain at the end of the year last year, imperial him Clave as best sprinter in America during the summer and X Y jet is clearly was the best runner in America. During the winter heading into the golden sheen last year where he got run by head with the improbable lay close by mind, your best, and we got Thomas's from outside. So I call I call this when the top few eliminate this 'cause the Don garlic and put the pedal. I think it's gonna be a passionate raised the she'd gone into the first term. And the the cleanup faster twice round. The anyone running with the tile possible raised to shut up and somebody else. But I think I think they'll has the advantage purposes for because he does have some bit of back class on long wanna found via Twitter about a stone cold such. And I think stocking outside X Y jet and imperial hint could probably buy him. And then I think it's a bandage promise of Seville the Robby Alvarado, that's that's gonna be a task that grace to watch. And then it gets better race. Number seven is the six million dollar divide turf highlighted by. Howman? I. Won the Japan Cup in sanely fast time. I'm just just nuts. Should choose as good as anyone as there is in the world. And then she would have to be right, right right up. They would waste based on her Japanese rates one fifty change well mile and the have to twenty in chains. And just outrageous at didn't do no doubt. And there's and the. Not just a star in Japan. But I mean caught everybody's interest. I mean, even I latched on because we we took a kind of watch those the American horses that went over and and happened to see that race. And I I was like stunned. I mean, it reminded me instantly of Caesaria, and it's pretty interesting when you think about it dick right now, the arguably the three most followed horses internationally are Phillies between winks almond die, and I would say newspaper of record that everybody's salivating over getting her back and. Anyone? The neighbor. That's right. That's right. She's coming back. I you're right. You're right out say this, though, she they have not for whatever reason she has not been kept in the public eye. The beach ball hasn't been you know. Bouncing around the audience as much she's kind of out of sight out of mind right now. But yeah. But isn't that interesting all the all Phillies three year olds? Against males. It's not even newsworthy. I mean, how many times is wings one goop ones against male twenty day. No, no. It's a gallery. She's she's got that gallery at the feel about her. But she she what's interesting is she buyer sprint sil- Lord. Canelo. And they didn't go to the the shame class might limit. Which is smart just starting year out? This is the mind light. And it's one turn minal. They start in the backstretch kinda like Belmont my way the main track. So with her speed, I'm that's an engine going to go to the front, but she can get out there and sent her pace and Chris off marriage rhythm divide many, many times and international writers adapts any circumstances. Tease redner in all her son. She does show win on good terms which have been arrested. And so she doesn't necessarily need the firm Lockhart term like she had. In japan. Come. But she's an absolute superstar, but you have dreamed has won the Jebel Hatta. Yep. De-jure the great ones when Japan. Devils won this race two years ago. You more imprinted was a good one winner in South Africa, and John them. I realize he was doing this. He shows up with without parole. And he was he he wanted. I four starts including Royal Ascot's, Saint James palace. And he you know, he kind of went off. Held off this this son of Frankel is coming back and probably at an optimum distance for because of mine wasn't verd- isn't that much different than than than a mile, and he'll probably keep them to my ratios. Most of the you know, the Franken's can really stretch out without parole. The winter very exciting was Tracy's ride. And then that brings us to the World Cup and the non-site the Sheema classic where you got magic word for maiden Vining raid, they off from Japan grave when our swat, Richard great woman Japan. That's what the counter to wanna grade one in Canada last year. This is the mile ahead. You probably gonna see extremely small pace. I would leave surprise first half of the race going one seventeen eighteen of those chug along and then writing try to position and make the make clean runs at the crime, turf course because the tiny outside big wide sweeping turn. But you still have to be cleared. If. I don't wanna be stuck behind anyone 'cause you're gonna have a big pack horses racing on. I'm of only eight say, but. It. It's not the greatest renewal of the Sheema classic, especially with some of the big ones going into by term. But it still sex me dollars. You see era saw in. The godolphin. And when you're watching Tamar, and they do move the camera. They take this angle at head of field from the inside. That's not what we used to look at the cats. When the post parade wearing blue, but he might have a white cat. Well, that's what you're looking for and keep track the cap that's on the writer as the best way to pick your horse out, especially when they come in Nevada machines, but easiest way so shame class like we'll be waste number eight. And then the big one race mine. They bumped up the World Cup twelve million dollars and the local horses just MC super toughen here cap Vano just came out of nowhere and exploded with three months the races, including one the third ram. The my challenge over done the snow by nine and a half. And everyone knew done the snow making the rates camman nine of Lanks. This is almost harder figure. They it's it's hard to gauge how good he is. 'cause based on just what you're seeing on paper because winter sun averted any he's already shown their mile on my recorder gets my cab on one the one four. Has a lot of things going on. Done this. Now clearly needed the rice last time outs. I been when those rates eight five he said, you know, we're kinda training. True it and and remember that coming back in three weeks from the monsoon challenge. So you don't want hard. Raise wanna have a kind of training race. And I think they got that. And then the issue will be how much better is he gonna be Saturday. Anyone two weeks? You are twelve which is problematic. Kristoff Simion that's been nominal writer. That's my problem at the interesting to see within the smell can do. And then the other big horse local is not America who won the first two legs of the mind to challenge this year, they cost by the Dalai, and he just goes to the front and just starts rolling last year. He was crushed. Then get away from the gate and now. If you're in the first two days in my chair is gonna mile and three sixteenths role to the front and just keeps going on. He kinda try to learn the last race. So smart skip skip the third round, which was smart. The mountain comes comes in here with a fresh force. And he's super they. So it's gonna be interesting out of the gate happens Arnot and North America right next to each other. And the gave these writers Barcelona Richie Mullen really have to put the pedal down going into the first turn. And then we have seen the salt. And clearly looking I mean clearly. He's capable of winning a big one. Maybe this was this is the race. When he when he does it audible didn't have the best Pegasus World Cup running on the part of the track track on the back. I mean, one apply to be exactly twelve months ago. So I'm gonna California ship is like Pavel look like they're in inform and might improve cow Cousy. Hard to figure, but you know, the rest of the formula sheet from Bill Mike and combat again. I'm definitely got the best of Haiti grave from Japan, the Knight's horse and looks like he could be well, either five me valid rar. Dirt ridge, alone Japan. I'm the smell does have overcome pokes twelve that's going to be tough for them with the other gun into the from the inside. So it's a fascinating race to watch any strategy wise. It'd be real answer. If one of the other gets away dad like North America gets away dead. Like he did last year. Right. Tap is Anan believe I don't know nothing in catch. Well, and that's that's been fascinating to watch. That's been the MO in this race time and time again when well armed one, you know, the Lopate along upfront, then wins, easy, and you know, other than IRA gates remarkable remarkable last. I the sweep. The clearly ended up taking a real toll on them other than that. This has been a race notoriously one on the front end. So now that that's a possibility, and I can just remind everybody to visit odds checker in the UK, which has got the compendium of prices from the betting shops. And it gives you the invariably on on World Cup morning. I find horse or to to include that that, you know, just as getting money in, you know, in the shops that I I end up throwing in and in fact in the in the Dubai turf, the horse that that might be a little bit of a play on that front right now as I can fly who's basically third choice twelve to one or so so just the just an idea. I mean when you're especially in a race like that we're on and I should be very tough in. You're you're going to be. For exotics players. Bahman die trading at five to four dream castle. Seven to two and then there's some twelve and sixteen to one shots without parole. Twenty two one right now in the in the shop, so use us odds checker to your damage tips, people that know, these these horses, and in this event better than you know, a lot of us on a regular basis. I know the third wrath Jerry Brown. Jerry's numbers of have had a couple of nice hints as well. Jerry's think is going to have the package up tonight for World Cup. So there's a couple of ways to approach it. Super in a great many, many of these horses older minute. We'll be back in four weeks for the big three big racing. In Hong Kong at the end of April, which we've seen horses commanded to buy and go to Hong Kong and still run their rights and stuff. So hopefully, we'll see especially with the four hundred on once, but many of the others that you know, somebody's international they go their ship them. The thing a lot of money just saw hard knocking, and if they were head cases they wouldn't be doing what they do. That's right. That's right. You try once and never ship again. Do any of the just the they're like puppies Polly around that's supposed to do. And they're on the day. They they produced. Reagan fascinating watch, especially with the the although that big and strong and good stuff that fat amazing to watch. When you see them in person. Just different than what way is the way to a more ratio. Type course, and somebody all the. Very stout muscles on muscles from years racing. But Sanders could be a while. And it'll go. It'll it'll just amazing day of raping Stevie. We gotta watch Australia Saturday and Sunday early Saturday morning right into divided. I know this is this is become a fun day this last Saturday in March and invariably combines all of this together and makes fun. And of course, we actually have added. We got the added intrigue of of a big Saturday. It's Anthony toe which we didn't normally would get with the two grade ones the kill row and the beholder mile the San Carlos Santana. So a lot happening, dick. I appreciate it. We'll talk next week. Dick, bowel, h k JC icon jockey club and the Schatten and Happy Valley action two hours in and we've got Tony black and Steve asking yet. So we'll spend right back, and we'll probably sprint to the wire. And then of course, tomorrow weekend preview at the racist with everybody will get Marcus Hirsch from Dubai. 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Should Howard Schultz Run for President?

WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

20:41 min | 1 year ago

Should Howard Schultz Run for President?

"They. From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. This is Potomac watch Howard Schultz, the billionaire and former Starbucks CO says he may run for president as an independent Democrats are furious, including billionaire Michael Bloomberg who issued a criticism. How does the possibility of Schultz candidacy stir up the presidential race for twenty twenty welcome? I'm Paul zhigo with the Wall Street Journal here with Kim strassel. Hello Kim hype. And Bill mckern. Hey, bill. Hey, paul. So this is so as the Democrats begin to enter the race. And there are a lot of them already Kamala. Harris Jila brand Elizabeth Warren, Joe, Biden and Bernie Sanders way sit waiting in the wings. Maybe Mike Bloomberg Howard Schultz gets on sixty minutes. Cam and says, well, I'm going to think running as a not as democrat as many expected he might but as an independent and he says. Is that there's a forty percent of the electorate being an declared independent therefore that gives him some running room, even though no independent since a third party candidate since bills. Good friend. Abraham LINCOLN and eighteen sixty has won the White House. So the what do you make of the Scholtz candidacy? Well, most notable is a degree to which the left has melted down over this. He came out not only to give that interview he had a a an op-ed that he ran making the case for why this is a viable candidacy if he goes forward, we can talk about that a little bit but the left Shirley abuses. They see this in black and white that if he runs he pulls away voters from their candidates and guarantees a Trump victory. And so as you said, Michael Bloomberg actually issued a statement in which he lectured about the perils of independent runs and why he had chosen not to do that. And instead run as a democrat if he runs it all near a tannin who runs the liberal center for American progress said that if Schultz got in the race, she would start a national. Starbucks boycott to make sure that she didn't have any money to pursue such an ambition say personally. It is now here's the thing. And and I think this is I'm not quite sure that if Schultz were to run that he necessarily only takes votes from Democrats. I think there's a case to be made that there are some of those suburban Republican voters who might be looking for someone that's not a far left candidate. That is not Donald Trump, and that they might pull the lever for him that being said in general, it is a case that independent candidates. Do have a very hard ho arro- to ho and I'm not quite sure what the actual potential is for this. I mean, my my view of this is that very hard for independent to win. I think even if you throw it into the house of representatives with deny anybody two hundred seventy electoral votes, then each house delegation gets a single vote and probably goes to either a Republican or democrat. But. It's a different story about whose votes he will take. And I don't think it's a done deal at all foregone conclusion that he would take democratic votes. I think it depends in part on how he campaigns what he campaigns on. It depends on who the Democrats nominate if they nominate somebody from the from the real populist laughed than it would increase as prospects for maybe getting a more votes. But just tell you both the story I was it was nineteen Ninety-two spring of nineteen ninety two. I was having lunch with Al Gore, and we were talking before going to lunch in his Senate office. And remember this was the time when Ross Perot was into the race still in the race had withdrawn yet only to get back later, and he was doing extremely well and Bill Clinton had been battered beaten down during the presidential primary season. Even as he emerged as the nomination winner. And I remember gore telling me, you know, we've got George H W Bush up here they used hand gestures and says we got Bill Clinton here. But there's a danger that Ross Perot will move ahead of Bill Clinton Clinton could finish third now as we all know within a couple of months Trump. I mean ski pardon me, not trumpet Bill Clinton, soared to the top and Perot ended up basically taking blowing up the the Reagan Republican coalition, and and help any fish with nineteen percent of the vote didn't get any electoral votes. But but helped Bill Clinton win. Why couldn't that something like that happen again? I think you could happen at look, we don't know we don't really know Mr. Schultz's platform is. And because he's a businessman in a successful businessman. And I think has demeanor is bell typically modest people are suing. He's very moderate. I I wonder. How well he's going to be able to sell that sub substantially on the issues, you know, where he would oppose will he oppose Medicare for all? I think he probably would be curious in. But will he really mounted defense? Look the traditional third party guy. Runs to do one of two things to be a spoiler. Right. I mean, you could argue the Jill Stein was spoiler in the Trump campaign in three states. She her vote total was more than the margin run as Bill. She ran green party green part. And now the which brings to another thing a lot of times people run for publicity for their cause of their their party. And they don't care what I think Evan McMullan strategy ran as an independent was to deprive Trump of some electoral votes. I don't he didn't succeed. So we don't know where it's where it's going to go, and we don't know who it's going to. I mean, the Democrats I think the assumption that he hurts them is that they think they've got this locked up and they're gonna go with their. You know, Bernie type agenda when you say they're going to win the deer going to Trump is going to lose. Right. And so that now they see this this man as as an obstacle to that. And and another wildcard is a you. And I have seen a lot of businessmen try to enter politics in most of the time they failed their often just too nice. Right. Trump. Didn't have that problem. Right. He fired back, you know, as tough as he got. But most business people can't take that they're not used to that kind of zero. Some you know, the opposition has to be destroyed their they're used to giving and taking and it'll be interesting to see where he falls we interests seat. Does he follow it all the way through or does? He does he go out. Kim does do any Democrats think that I mean as you lineup you watch the press, the democratic press columnist, they are uniformly taking the view that he that Scholtz would take votes away from Democrats. There any contrary thinking out there. Not much. No, not at the moment. They're pretty uniformly of that opinion. But I would also point out for the all those liberal candidates and voters and the press as well that you know, one of the reasons I give Howard Schultz credit for this. If he is going to run Michael Bloomberg has said, well, I'm going to run as a democrat because there's no room for an independent person. And you will only end up panning this Donald Trump. I think what Howard Schultz understands is. There is no room for a person like Howard Schultz in the Democratic Party. And I think Michael Bloomberg might discover that for himself when he and if he gets in that this is a party at the moment that is dominated by progressive base. That is not going to have tolerance in my view for any kind of moderate or centrist positions on anything. So if you look at Schultz, he's. A little bit more democratic leaning when it comes to some of these touch point issues in the party. He's with them on immigration. He's with them on climate change. But he's definitely more of a capitalist in that he defends private markets. He criticized Alexander, okay, Zia Cortez recently for her proposal of a seventy percent tax rate on the wealthy. He rejected that so, but these are positions that used to be held within what was called the centrist or moderate wing of the Democratic Party. There isn't a lot of room for them there now. And I think the only way you could buy ably, maybe even compete would be to do an independent run. Right. We're talking about Howard Scholtz as an independent presidential candidate. And you're listening to Potomac watch from the Wall Street Journal. From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. This is Potomac watch. Welcome back on Paul's you go with Bill mcgurn and Kim Strauss talking about Howard Schultz. Starbucks former Starbucks CEO's potential run for president. And Kim you suggested that there's no room within the Democratic Party for a moderate these days, but we will get some in Terry McAuliffe. The former governor of Virginia Clinto Nian he's going to maybe run Mike, Bloomberg might Ron John Hickenlooper, their former Colorado governor, my rumba, I hear you saying is you just don't think they're going to get much traction because of the nature of the party. Now is that is that a fair interpretation? Yeah. Absolutely. I look back to four years ago when Jim Webb who was a Senator a moderate democrat launched his own bid for the presidency. Any he essentially lasted what a few weeks era month before he was run out. They actually booed him. When he walked on stage. And that was for for debate that was four years ago, the party's moved even more left now. So, you know, Michael, Bloomberg he may be making a tactical decision to run as a democrat. But we'll see how open Democrats are to his more at least self-proclaimed moderate style of of democratic politics. Will if you if you if you look at what Howard Schultz is is is running on. He is saying as you say he he's against Medicare for all. He says nation can't afford it. He's going to try to focus on the national debt and deficits and say, we're gonna keep our house in order a Bill of very business thing, my man's kind of view Ross Perot in on that low these many decades ago, the he's he is more pro market. He says ObamaCare shouldn't be repealed. But it can be fixed in justed he wants role for private private health insurance disagrees with Trump most Facific. Early on immigration, and I think on alliances as well. He's mentioned that and kind of an but above all on manners and style and thinks Trump is simply too polarizing, and as as as a leader is that is that enough to coalesce, and they'll be no doubt obvious specific proposals. But as a Nuff to coalesce a big enough coalition to to deny either the other two two hundred seventy votes. I'm not sure, you know, you mentioned the ninety two election, right? I mean, Bill Clinton was essentially the Howard Schultz, then right coming in off the Dukakis off the do Dakotas defeat saying we're gonna have he triangulate had much more moderate. We can argue that whether it was sincere or not. But it was a lot more moderate. He was a governor. So an executive. I mean, it's it's very democrat independent, but right as a gender was closer to Scholtz than to write. Right. And it's and it's interesting that so few of the democratic candidates are actually executive by which I mean governors or something because those are people that actually have some experience in when they're not it tends to push them in the other direction. I think I think he's calculated it'd be very hard and the Democratic Party to get those people that that they're substantive looking in a party that has made identity politics such an important part. It's just hard to see how an old white billionaire gets a nomination. I think he's made a pretty good calculation that way. Well in his calculation Kim is that in addition to forty percent of the electorate being declared, independent of the Democrats would go far left if they chose that Trump is polarizing and who knows what trouble he'll be in ethically. Or through the with a special counsel, come twenty twenty van? That there's a plausible case for him to run up the middle as a competent billionaire Hiba well-funded he can fund his his own campaign. He's got intriguingly Steve Schmidt. The former George W Bush adviser and John McCain supporter in his camp planning. Bill Burton democrat who was with Hillary Clinton longtime democratic operative. So we've got some from each party. And you know, their case would be that far from taking votes away from a necessarily from just from the Democrats. They could peel away those moderate reluctant Trump voters from two thousand sixteen. Yeah. They also cite in the Schultz Abed that was out today. They pointed out the number of Americans in poll after poll, and this is the case say that they are dissatisfied with both of the current reigning parties. Now, we get pulled like this a lot. It's when you ask that top line question, people will often say that, but it's more of an expression of just disgruntlement with government in general, if you drill down to people, there's a reason we are polarized in this country, and it's because people do have very strongly held opinions on certain policy issues and about the way the country should be governed. So not quite sure that that number is reflective of I think the number something like sixty percent say that they're unhappy with the system it's probably much smaller one that would vote for a third party candidate simply on the principle that it's not one of the existing parties. But is there a plausible case? Yes. And that's why. Because we don't know what our political system necessarily looks like these days all kinds of strange things happen. We've seen big shifts. Look, Donald Trump is president something that people said absolutely could never happen. So I guess my bias was at everyone ought to have a bit of humility about what could roll out in the future and certainly possible he could take voters from both sides of the aisle more. So Kim, I take that point very much that this election could be wild. I'm in. We could have a Republican challenge to for the primaries for Trump. I mean, Larry ho right Maryland's been mooted. We could have or John casick decided that we could have. As well. We're going to have a huge democratic field. And who knows how that turns out? It's going to be left leaning, but there's going to be a lot of candidates. And then who knows how many other candidate? Let's say Schultz gets in that could be one third party. I wouldn't rule out that John casick might run in his own right as another there could be four or five presidential candidates. Now, we haven't had four serious presidential candidates since again, this was bills. Good friends in nineteen forty eight of the had Henry Wallace run left-wing progressive you had Harry Truman as the democrat and Strom Thurmond ran as a Socratic Dixie crat, and I think one four five states Truman, of course. And Tom, Dewey ran as the Republican, and and some how do we manage to lose that race of the democratic vote was divided three ways. But that's the last time that you had. Four candidates. You had a nineteen sixty eight you had George Wallace winsome states as a third party candidate. That's the last time a third party candidate one electoral, votes course, Richard Nixon narrowly beat Humphry that raise Perot. You've got nineteen percent. He didn't win any electoral votes again the same thing. Yeah. Interesting. What about five percent from in nineteen eighty? So it's I think this race is going to be wild will. And I think Paul in addition to all that one thing we all know from watching this. It's so early in the season and a lot of times your front runners self immolate or something there's there's so many things that candidate B is behind and not the favorite one. But then candidate a blows up and that happens all the time someone that on paper should be winning should be on front. Something happens. And and or there are external actions something happens overseas. So a lot changes. Camp. Do you think Scholtz runs in the end? Well, what he said is that he is he made a couple of promises, and that op-ed he said, I am not going to do it unless I think I have a viable path for winning. Good. That's a pretty big out. That's good ramp. And and he explained that he has hired some consultants. We mentioned Steve Schmidt to help McCain. Bill Burton democrat or worked on the Obama campaign one side. And then the other side Republican democrat consultants working with them. They're going to do lot of polling and and a lot of investigation. And then also he made the promise unless he felt he could do the job. Well, we'll of course, you wouldn't even start the entire process of saying you're gonna run for president. Let's you think you'd be the best in the world. So I think we can assume that he will satisfy himself on that point. But yet they'll do education. The probably also watched to see who else gets in a little bit of a waiting game. At the moment. People are are seeing where things fall out is. You said the democratic side is going to be a scrum, but he could wait a little bit. Look, this is still were still a little bit early in the in the time frame for when you normally go out in announcer, at least the way it used to be. But people often don't get in until closer to summer. So he's. Also got some time to sit back look at the field count, his pennies and see how much something like this would cost too. That's the other side. And then decide whether to go ahead as the final note. Bill Mike Bloomberg's criticism of weary pointed criticism of our chills billionaire to billionaire little some not in a position to make. The it's it's a little self serving Rysley because he may run in his own, right? And he doesn't want any once that democratic nomination. If he goes forward and spent two billion dollars to get it to be worth as much as possible. But I do know from my own reporting in the last two election cycles presidential cycles that he looked very very closely at at running and did decide in the end that he thought he could not win. And that's why into it. Right. Well, I think that was a wise decision. I'm not sure how well Michael Bloomberg travels outside New York. But that said he's using his money on guns and so forth advances, and I think gun control gun control reasonably successfully. I mean, that's that's one thing. You can do. I don't know what Howard Schultz really cares about. If that's any of his aim. If is aim is just winning or if his aim is to say, these are things I want to talk about or I wanna see any can push the agenda that way, and he can have a big affect on the democratic. Thirty you know in the debate between sort of the Biden wing and the Bernie wing. All right Bill. Thanks, kim. Thanks. Thank you all for listening. We'll be back tomorrow with another addition Potomac watch.

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324- Billboard Boys: The Greatest Radio Contest of All Time

99% Invisible

30:17 min | 2 years ago

324- Billboard Boys: The Greatest Radio Contest of All Time

"This is ninety nine percent invisible. I'm Roman Mars. The year was nineteen eighty two on the eastern edge of Pennsylvania. In the small city of Allentown, sat an AM radio station called w. s. a. n. for years, end broadcast country music to this rounding, Lehigh valley an area known for malls manufacturing and Mack trucks. But the station was about to undergo a complete identity change. An was coming off being a country station and become style station. This is Ned teeter. He was a DJ at WFAN at the time, and he says that as the station transition to nostalgia meaning big band soft hits from the fifties, they wanted a gimmick to hoc new listeners, something to lure people to this week, sounds of the Andrew sisters in Perry coamo. So you had FM radio stations play music with really nice fidelity, and then you had us play music. So you had to be a little bit different. So you know they're shutting up playing the hits were injecting something different into our air sound and this contest. Well, that was a little different. A contest to be decided it would launch a good old fashioned, endurance contest reminiscent of the pole-sitting sitting stunts and dance marathons popular in the nineteen twenties. The station secured a local sponsor love homes to donate a prize, a single wide modular. Home worth eighteen thousand dollars. Nine hundred eighty two. Even a modular home of eighteen thousand dollars a significant price. And then they devised the scheme. WFAN had a billboard, Lehigh valley advertising, the new nostalgia music format. They will get three contestants to ascend a thirty foot ladder to the billboard platform and whoever stayed on that platform. The longest would walk away with the new home WFAN called it that you'll love to live with us contest again in September of last year. When radio station w. essay in challenge there. Lehigh valley listeners to see who could stay the longest on a tiny shelf thirty feet above a highway intersection. It was supposed to be a way to get people know. We'd changed our format, look at our billboard and give away a modular home for sponsor as what this was supposed to be. It's not what it was. WFAN had grossly underestimated just how much people would endure for a little economic security. I don't know if it's this law of attraction or what. But I mean for the in the weeks leading up to the contest, people were asking me all your out of the army. You've been way. What are you gonna? Do I said, gonna be in this contest. This was before they even drew my name. This is Dalton young. One of the three contestants that would eventually be chosen by WFAN. He was twenty two years old at the time. He just been discharged from the army the month before, and he thought that's sitting on a billboard above a highway sounded like as good and option as any. Yeah. I mean, the economy was really not good at that time, unemployment was a -rageous, Dalton was so dead set on competing that he turned in a thousand entries he'd carefully read the submission rules and realize that there was no specified limit to the number of times a person could submit and it turned out he wasn't the only one who read the fine print and had a lot of time on their hands. Here's Ron kistler with his wife. Sue was unemployed, heard by the billboard contest and. Wasn't working. It was looking for work in any so. Something to do. Ron's, not the chatty person in the world, but what he lacked in conversation, he made up for with determination. We heard about the contest. He ensue hand-delivered over four thousand entries directly to the WFAN station, and they were trying for four thousand when we added up came up to four thousand four. So that's what we ended running into had been dating for a year before the contest and they were looking to move together. The seem like the perfect opportunity to get a place of their own. I thought it was a quick and easy way to get a house. The last of the contestants was Mike McKay. He died in two thousand six back in the early nineteen eighties. He was the only one of the three contestants who was married and he was the only one who had a job, but even still he couldn't afford to buy a home. McKay sent an astronomical forty, seven thousand entries to WFAN. He used a rubber stamp with the phrase, I need a home and then cut out in signed every piece of paper. He's been. Good. So many times the first ten entries pulled by the selection team were his first impression. Mike was that he was kind of a when back I can have a full of bluster again, Dalton young, but you know, if you could get past all the bluster had a big heart. You know, he's really nice guy. I think between the three of them Dolan Ron and Mike submitted fifty two thousand four entries. And this sounds like a lot until you consider just a hell. Many total entries there were the station received over half a million submissions. We had like miracle on thirty fourth street, right? These bags of postcards on the conference table piled up. There was a reason they were getting so many entries around the time. The competition launched the country was logging through the worst recession. It had seen in over forty years. Good evening. I'm speaking to you tonight. They give you a report on the state of our nation's economy. I regret to say that we're in the worst economic nece since the great depression. The recession began in nineteen eighty one when the fed raised interest rates to try to fight rising inflation, then dragged on all the way through nineteen eighty two companies. They're spending to try to cope and hundreds of steel facilities and manufacturing plants closed, including some in the Lehigh valley places like Alan down were WFAN is located where hit particularly hard gotta remember that this is ground zero, the rust belt, blue collar town Steel's gone. Mack trucks is threatening to leave. Champion. Spark plugs is closed. The national unemployment rate was the highest since the great depression and interest rates skyrocketed twenty percent in nineteen eighty two. If you were a blue collar worker and didn't already own a house of this time, it would be incredibly tough to get one too many people. The idea of spending a little time on a billboard for a chance to win a home. Most of seem like a pretty good deal before looking for better times better days. Now's a big part of this. This is kind of like a rust belt. Fairy tale. The contest officially started on September. Twentieth nineteen eighty two, Dalton, young, Ron, Kessler, and Mike McKay ascended the billboard to begin their stay towering behind them was an advertisement for the station reading unforgettable. Fourteen seventy WFAN. Here's Dalton. Again, it was raining that day. I remember it was kinda drizzly and crappy little bit damp and cold and you know traffic blown by throughout the day planes flying right overhead because it was right near the valley airport. This was supposed to be about a thirty day event. This is Jean wurley another DJ at WFAN and one of the contest organizers will aim officially is gene wurley, but almost everybody around here would call me early. Wurley came from during the morning shows Worley said that besides some local coverage, when the guys went up, there wasn't that much fanfare around the contest and the beginning, even though WFAN had launched the contest as a kind of promotion. They didn't do the best job of promoting it with other media outlets it was going on. People just weren't made aware. There wasn't mentioned on the other radio stations that they might have listened to articles in the paper wasn't anything on the TV news that they watch. The accommodations on the billboard were pretty bare bones. Each guy had a small tenant radio, a landline telephone and a chemical toilet, which is kind of like a tiny port upon it was almost like camping only thirty feet in the air surrounded by freeway traffic and trapped on a billboard. We made the guys comfortable, we'd then torture on guide your towns. You had everything going on in their. The billboard platform itself was about eight feet by forty eight feet, and it had been divided into three equal sections by waist high partitions. The organizers at WFAN wanted the contest to last long enough to draw some attention, but not forever. They figured that by discouraging interaction between the contestants. They might keep the whole thing to a reasonable length. Yeah, we didn't talk at all for, you know, I don't even know. We set hide each other, but even if the guys weren't encouraged to interact with each other, they still had plenty of people to keep them company from a distance. The contest required that the guys have their own support team to deliver food and to handle cleanup. Each contestant had police DM so they could raise or lower supplies in buckets or on trays Dalton's friends and families by all the time to chat from below. Mike, had his wife and Ron's barons major. He got everything he needed and got rid of the things. He didn't hear. Soukous ler parents did a lot to as far as bringing food, his dad was in charge of emptying the the porta-john. That was his job. Sue Enron were dating at the time and visited Ron every day, except one while he was up on the billboard strangely enough, the contest might have even made their relationship stronger. All we can do is talk. So we got to know each other a lot better in that time because we talked every day and on the phone or with me at the bombing to billboard, aside from the essentials, each contestant was allowed to bring a non essential item with them. Mike McKay brought a good tar, which he learned to play up there. Ron kistler brought a copy of American rifleman magazine and Dalton. Yeah, I had some numb chucks up there. In fact, I think I got him as a gift for my birthday. Maybe it was as you can imagine, there was little room to do anything and even less when Dalton has none jokes out, but there wasn't much to do period. Here's Ron Kessler on his daily schedule. You know, wake up something for breakfast, listen, radio, hang out, have something for supper, what's traffic? The routine was mine days quietly crept by then months, September, wake up something for breakfast, October, what's traffic? November's the radio. But if they're listening to the radio in November, they might have heard a new song one that would help transform their sleepy lives up on the billboard into something much bigger and stranger. The song was by Billy Joel. In November of nineteen eighty two. The song Allentown started climbing the billboard charts, and it happened to be about the very town we're WFAN was located the song painted, a vivid portrait of the economic hardship working class families were going through at the time. He was talking about companies like Bethlehem Steel in the Lehigh valley shutting its doors and eliminating nearly ten thousand jobs because of the song, the city of Allentown became kind of stand in for all the suffering rustbelt towns in the northeast midwest, here's Dalton young. Again, you know, I think he was talking about the economy and it just happened at this contest was going on. It was, you know, it wasn't stated that, yeah, this is this contest is because the economy's so bad, and we're going to try to give somebody a home that might not otherwise have one. But yeah, they both seem to work together really. Well. People started paying attention to Ellen town and the contest eighty. One days on the Bill. Mike McCabe young, Ron history in our WFAN love hams. You'll live to live with this contest and so far there hanging in there pretty good. And as this media coverage, expanded stories about the contest started to hit national newspapers on December ninth nineteen eighty-two an article appeared in the Wall Street Journal, and the response was immediate. The phones were ringing constantly all the line. Here's Jeanne early wurley the WFAN DJ and I have no idea what they're saying except they're talking about people on a billboard, some of their time we got off the air. Some information was gathered that said, the Wall Street Journal of front page article in the Bill. Suddenly this little AM radio station, which only had about a fifty mile range was peeking a lot of interest. Allentown, Pennsylvania has been receiving international publicity, no kidding from all over the world and before social media. And really even before the internet, some stories. Just did that and you. You didn't even really know how this is Betty Morris, the staff reporter at the Wall Street Journal who wrote that article. Moore's didn't expect the story to catch on like did because of her story, Dalton, Ron, and Mike were fielding questions from people magazine Rolling Stone and Phil Donahue about their extended stay on the billboard, dole even remembers getting calls from Japan, New Zealand and France on the landlines that they had on the board. The French magazine ran a story in France about the the contests. Then for whatever reason, they put each of our phone numbers in the in the article. So all of a sudden we're getting like a hundred hundred and fifty calls a day from French people. You have no idea when you're writing stories, which ones are going to hit a nerve. I mean, it was interesting to look back and see all those all that 'paparazzi outside the billboard later. But looking back, Betsy more. Understood why this particular story resonated then president. Ronald Reagan had referred to America as the shining city upon a hill, but life was so hard in that shining city that three men had confined themselves to a billboard four months over a chance to win a home. There was something this token about it. I mean, the American dream was really shaky at that point and all the guys in the billboard never said they felt exploited by the radio station. In air of desperation, did begin to seep into the contest as the months went by. Do you think you'll be here. Maybe two years he putting on that. Mostly, I run that. I'd say probably two years, maybe a year and nine months, you're eight months. Come down for some are eighty four, some summer person. They asked us how long we would stay up there. And I said, I don't know two or three years then I really meant it. I wasn't. It was just that wasn't just bravado, but I figured, okay, in order to save enough to get an eighteen thousand dollar home, what would I be willing to invest in time to three years when December in January arrived, it started getting colder, the lowest recorded temperature with zero degrees Fahrenheit. So the guys were giving portable heaters to keep them from dying. A huge snowstorm, shut down the entire city, but it didn't stop the contest according to Dolton. It was a welcome change of pace. You know, for me, it was a piece of cake for that. Whatever twenty four hours or however long forty, eight hours, Doug everything out it was. It was peaceful, you know, it was just. So quiet so peaceful, it was great actually given everything. The guys will going through the isolation, the weather, the boredom they were holding up surprisingly, well, here's an interview with Ron around the same time, but temperatures dropped zero most snow, twenty four inches. You must be talking to yourself how you doing psychologically. I'm fine. You don't run and Mike all made it through the winter and lasted into the spring. At this point, they'd spent thanksgiving Christmas New Year's valentines day away from their families and still nobody intended to come down. And then finally and March of nineteen Eighty-three after six months of basically nothing happening. Something happened was one morning. There's a guy out talking to Ron and Mike, a stranger that Dolton hadn't seen before was down below the billboard chatting with the guys. He casually struck up a conversation with dole telling him that he was also a veteran. We were talking about our experiences in the military and some of the partying we had done. And he at some point, asked me if I got high. I thought at that point. Yeah, some sort of a bond, you know? Yes, sure. I get I. I mean, he was on a billboard for six months. He. Asked me if I could get him some and I said, I got a little part with so he's stuck in a cigarette pack and drop it down to them Dolton lower down two joints and the stranger thanked him with a twenty dollar Bill by luck. Man just take it. You know, he's are. Now insist, I insist and I thought, you know, twenty bucks twenty bucks. I'm not going to turn it down. You know, get a phone call early in the morning probably before five o'clock. This is my Chrysler executive director of the HDF group. The company that was funding the contest he remembers getting a call from contest organizer saying, you're gonna have a good time telling the boss. This got busted for drugs. I says, what is this? How can it be selling drugs from you know, twenty thirty feet up on a billboard. Apparently the stranger who solicited the pot from Dalton had been an undercover police officer because dull accepted that twenty dollars. He was arrested on drug charges. It made the front page of the Philadelphia Inquirer at. I think the same day that the Reagan announces missile defense system. So Reagan's missile defense system and there's, there's a Dalton being busted on on the front page. Don't was knocked out of the competition on day. One hundred eighty four. I'm probably the only person in history to be arrested, sewn from billboard. And yes, there were plenty of rumors that don't have been set up. Maybe one of the other guys reported him to the police or maybe one of the contest sponsors wanted to speed along the end of the contest. None of his was actually proven. You gotta admit, it's really, really fishing. Run and Mike both descended from the billboard to testify in court. They had breakfast a quick shower, and then went right back up on the billboard, finish out the contest. But after Dalton's arrest the competition felt different. Here's Ned teeter again, when the WFAN DJ's we have this contest and these people becoming everyman here and it's a great story. It's it's heart warming and then over to joints, marijuana, Dalton gets pulled off, and I think that's when things changed. I think that's one things want from. How's this thing going to end to? We're going to end this thing by this point, the competition him become a huge annoyance for down officials down Commissioner, even described the contest as a him Royd and wanted it stopped officials here at townhall. Equally disillusioned with the contest have contemplated sending the housing inspector to. Vic contestants, the billboard has no plumbing or smoke alarms, and the town's already sent them bills for residency tax. Listing, the billboard address the run Kessler and Mike McKay had dug their heels in deep neither would come down unless there were coming down to a new home, the station received more publicity than it ever needed. And at this point it had become a burden WFAN had the attention of the world, but nothing to say we were radio guys, not PR guys, not marketing mavens, not really not on an international or national level run. And Mike lasted two months beyond Dalton's drug bust before WFAN caved and realized that enough was enough when it became obvious, neither man would quit and both threaten to stay forever if necessary the station declared the contest draw and lured the men down by offering duplicate prizes for each. They had captured the attention of the region when they came down to that. On June seventh nineteen Eighty-three, Ron and Mike, both step down of their respective ladders. At the same time, they've been up on the billboard for two hundred sixty one days nearly nine months. And in that entire time, they had taken only one Java. The station had received some criticism around the contest. People had accused them of exploiting the guys. So WFAN actually up the prizes to try to repair some of the damage done to their reputation, Ron. And Mike, both walked away with a modular home, a Chevy chevette and free vacation. This wasn't supposed to be this. It wasn't supposed to be this big international global almost year long thing. The men reacted very differently in their post-contest lives. Mike tried to recreate the fame he'd had when he was up on the board that never really happened. But when he died in two thousand six, his obituary still referred to him by his preferred nickname billboard. Mike, he was the guy that you would say, this was my high watermark. This defined me, I think that that Mike McKay was the one that loved at the most. He loved being billboard, Mike, at least he made off better than Dalton. I got six months probation in a hundred dollar fine. Of course, I do have a felony so Ron Kessler's, quiet determination on the other hand, probably got him the closest to that rust belt fairytale ending. He and ensue married shortly after the contest ended, it lived happily in their two bedroom, modular home for twenty years, raised a daughter in it and moved on with their lives. At the end of the day, you've got three guys that did something crazy to try and just get a little bit ahead of the world. I mean, remember these guys weren't looking for a mansion or a jet plane. Just looking for a start. A very special. Thanks to Pat tiger and Frank Petco episode was adopted from their fantastic feature length documentary, billboard boys. It's available right now on Amazon teams. Eighteen. What happens when you take away all the billboards may did it in a city in Brazil. We'll talk about that after this. 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So in the early two, thousands southbound was just littered with advertisements, including around fifteen thousand billboards. And as this visual pollution got worse, people became increasingly frustrated. You know, at private companies being allowed to basically brand public space. So the bear comes along and proposes a clean city law to get rid of all kinds of ads. Visit signs, posters, bus, ads, taxi. It's all had to go even handing out marketing buyers on the street would be illegal. Extreme businesses must not have been having about that at all? Yeah, they really weren't. I mean, this was a city full of ads and suddenly there would be none. But this proposed law had a ton of public support and predictably possess leaders fought back corporate lobbyists, argued that it'd be bad for the economy and would compromise real estate values. They also tried to scare people with the idea that public tax money would be needed to remove all the supporting infrastructure. You know, the polls and the scaffolding around these billboards. There is even an argument that commercial graphics were useful. As we finding devices, helping people navigate the city. Plus at night, pure lit up signs would make the city less safe and so on. It's fourth. So I guess some of those arguments make some sense, but they all seem to be rooted primarily and self interest. Absolutely. In the end, the business advocates lost the law passed and businesses were given ninety days to comply or start paying fines. And so the ad started coming down and suddenly the city did look different and sure some old architecture was uncovered, which was nice, but pulling down all those ads also revealed some other hidden aspects of the city. And so what kind of things are we talking about here? So stripping away, huge billboards alongside major roads, for instance, ended up exposing Velez entire shantytown neighborhoods that had been visually fenced off by ads, and then on the sides of factories where these billboards covering windows, removing them actually revealed immigrants living where they worked essentially, they weren't being paid enough to afford rent and the absence of ads in general, right? Sort of decolonization of the city. Put a lot of focus on crumbling infrastructure, right? Suddenly kinda thrust into the spotlight. So what about, oh, those concerns from business leaders about people not to waive into her dark at night, not too. Surprisingly, a lot of those were overblown and it turns out that, yes, people can't. Still find their way around cities without ads and a lot of building owners ended up repainting their sides. So a lot of structures ended up looking better and more distinctive anyway. So this started like a decade ago is so Pol still totally advocate today. Well, some ads have actually been allowed back out, but it's all much more controlled than it used to be. There's this new awareness about how things look and how useful they are. So for example, there these interactive search engine ads at bus shelters that let riders look up the weather where they're going and heart of the deals that marketers have to actually take care of those bus shelters. So it's kind of like an adopt-a-highway programming and put a little ad as long as you provide something good for the community, it's like a highway program with, you know, sort of technology twist. And I was actually just reading about something else that the current mayor proposed last year, his ideas to reintroduce exactly thirty, two billboards, each one for one of the thirty, two main bridges that were around the city and the idea there. Is that marketers can advertise on these only if they agree to maintain that bridge that that you know each billboards associated with like the bus shelters, they have to use some of the digital display space to actually show useful stuff like traffic updates and the time in the weather. Very cool. It's remarkable to see how he goes about selectively reintroducing advertising once they start with a clean slate. Yeah. And it's something that you know, most cities just aren't bold. I've Lou like just never chance to do that. And so you when you do you wanna be deliberate, you wanna make sure it's for the public. Good. Yeah. It's a really great experiment to sort of watch unfold some cool and we have some pictures of these on the website the before and after shots are really quite stunning. We'll take it out at nine p, I dot org. Thanks. ninety nine percent of is what was produced this week by Vivien Leigh mix Intech production by Sharieff Yousef music by Sean rail. 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U.S. Rep. Newhouse on Ag Workforce Reform, and NPC Celebrates National Ag Day

Eye on Potatoes: A Podcast on All Things Potatoes

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U.S. Rep. Newhouse on Ag Workforce Reform, and NPC Celebrates National Ag Day

"This is the eye on potatoes brought to you by the National Potato Council? The I is the place to tune in for conversations with growers and thought leaders on advocacy production, and all things potatoes. Now here's your host Les Nordland as we come back to this edition of the eye on potatoes podcast. We have a great lineup of topics to discuss here on today's show. One of our special gas will be our. Our second half of this podcast edition, and that is Washington's Dan newhouse. Of course a member of Congress. It's going to be great to catch up with representative Dan newhouse. We're going to talk about the farm workforce, Modernization Act, but first we're going to turn our attention out to Washington DC. In of course, it is national egg week. Cam Coral CEO of the National Potato Council joins us here today, self distancing. Throughout the past few days of course out in our nation's capital, but Cham, how are things shaping up in our nation's capital as so much is going on capitol, Hill. The things are a little little different than they usual usually are. We're a little bit farther away. From each other We've been burning up the email and phone lines where usually we're doing. Things face to face and shaken hands with folks. We can't shake hands anymore and we. We can't have meetings across the table from him, so we've had to adjust our tactics a little bit, but we're still turning away trying to trying to get business done for the Industry Cam of. Of course, a lot of different moving parts going on from relief packages that the coronavirus has had and making sure that resources are to all Americans, but of course the essential role that agriculture plays in this nation, it is so important to focus on, and that's why it was a top priority for the trump administration and the National Potato Council to make sure that agriculture was listed as one of those essential aspects of making sure that Americans are fed that everyone is safe. How has the National Potato? Council rallied around this making sure that consumers and producers know the essential role that the potato industry place here in the United States. Well as you say, the the the administration has stated very clearly that agriculture is one of these essential critical industries for the United States. And why that's important is it provides federal government guidance to all the states that, even though you may be going into A. Certain, essential businesses have gotta stay open. And, the federal guidance advises those stay local county interest that the truckers who are supplying the retail stores, the workers who are going to the packing house to keep to keep the pack lines running folks who are running necessary inputs to out to field to prep for planting that those activities should be considered essential, and they should be unimpeded if the authorities are questioning why folks are on the road or why they're out and about so that's really important. The the second piece of this is recognizing. The feds have highlighted. Agriculture and properly identified it as critical are communications director. Marsha anti came up with a great idea and we're rolling it out this week. to highlight on social media. The the individuals who are involved in the supply chain in the potato industry, so you'll see on facebook instagram twitter, the the stories of some of these They're really great heroes for the United, states who are engaged in making sure that our store shelves are filled every single day. You know when the crisis started. Something to take for granted as you go to your supermarket and all the shelves or fall well. All of a sudden, they were going to supermarkets or their local small grocery stores, and finding some some shelves that maybe weren't fully stocked or maybe Baron and threatened folks confidence a little bit, but then they came back the next day, and they realized that overnight those have been supplied again and those shelves have been filled. And they come back the next day, even though you've got masses of people rushing into the supermarket, and they're seeing being replenished, and that's the work of these great. individuals who are also all throughout the supply chain, so we really wanted to highlight our part the potato industry, and so it's it's a program. You'll see on across. Social Media Hashtag Essential AG. There's some great stories out there. If folks haven't seen them, go onto facebook instagram twitter linked in and you'll, you'll see them popping up there from the potato council and it's. It's I think it's GONNA be a terrific way to point out how important these folks are not only for our. Our industry, but for the whole of the United States. This falls right in line with the National Day. National, agriculture week a lot of activities really looking much different than what they have in the past, so not only. Is this a great way to highlight the role that the potato industry is point and making sure. The food is on the shelf in our grocery stores during this pandemic, but also highlighting and bringing awareness to agriculture during National League Week I really think it complements itself. You're absolutely right. National it typically. We're down at the Department of Agriculture. Participate participating in these big rallies with people with the secretary and other key officials while we can't do that this year, so we're having to do it virtually, and who knows maybe it's the wave of the future but we. We feel like this Hashtag Essential AG. It's a great way to highlight how important these folks are, and so we're even though we're dealing with a crisis. We're looking for a bright side here and we think this is. This is one of the good things that may come out of this. You bring up. How important folks are in the industry? A big aspect of making sure that these products are in grocery stores as making sure that there's a reliable legal workforce that agriculture producers can't can find workers in. Our guest as I mentioned on the second half of this podcast is representative Dan newhouse from the state of Washington and we'RE GONNA! We've talked about the Farm Workforce Modernization Act Multiple Times here on the PODCAST, but we're going to die more depth in that and it's it's very important that we have a reliable workforce at during this pandemic as well. What work has been done making sure that we have a reliable legal workforce. In the coming days and weeks here in the United States from our partners where we do have migrant workers coming from. So you're exactly right the. The flow of workers into the United States. guestworkers h two a workers who are who serve the agriculture industry. They're fundamental to work. That's done across US agriculture, but particularly for the fruit and vegetable industry. So. When when we saw about ten days ago, the State Department announced that consulates in Mexico which is one of the largest countries that supplies h two a workers to the United States. The consulates and the the US Embassy in Mexico City we're GonNa shut down visa operations that meant effectively those H. Two a workers who come on in on a visa could no longer get that document. And therefore they weren't gonna be crossing the border, and they weren't going to be going to those farms to begin critical activities for US largely. We're getting into planning season. Other folks who were growing fruits and vegetables down in the south. They may be in the middle of their harvest. Not having workers, that fundamental input is a huge impact of those operations. You can't get that season back. So we, we went to work. With the administration secretary produced been doing a terrific job explaining how important this is that those visa operations and everything else associated with getting that labor force into the United States happens unimpeded and I I'm I'm hopeful that we're making some good progress. There the State Department has modified some of their rules and we think they're going to get to the right the right place here hopefully in short order. The. You mention the farmwork Mo-. Forest Modernization Act. Basically this this this crisis that we're facing. In getting the these H. Two way workers into the country validates exactly what? Congressman New House has been saying and why he worked so hard to get that bill right chairwoman Lofgren. Who is the author of the bill? Mike Simpson from from Idaho, who was such a key player in that bill, and all the other folks who were supportive of it. They look forward, and they said look if our supply of labor is threatened. Then American agriculture is threatened and so. Even though it's tough, we're going into an election year. And this the bill itself isn't perfect, but it starts a process. It's the first time in thirty six years that a bill has been passed. By, the House of Representatives dealing with Labor reform it this. This crisis really validates that these folks had foresight. They were exactly right about the vulnerability that American agriculture has, and it's also kind of a a a call to action for the Senate. To reciprocate on what the House did doesn't mean the Senate got gotTa pass the House Bill. We hope they improve on it, but we've got. We've got to take the opportunity while the window is open. To get this thing to the finish line. It's so important not only for this crisis, but we are going to face numerous other hurdles over the next thirty or forty years and American agriculture needs to have the security that their labor force is going to be there when they need it. Low Cam, the discussion with representative. Dan newhouse will be the next half of this podcast. Anything else that you would just like to share with our listeners of the podcast here today as we look at the climate out in the countryside in Washington DC well I just like folks to know, even though we are sheltering in place DC is going under a stay at home. Order as a number of states have been the potato council. We've. Taken a number of different steps to make sure we can all work remotely from basically any place in the world. We're up and running. We may just. We may not be physically in the office, but we're running where there's a lot of great officials across the the federal government who are still working remotely. We're working hand in glove with them as well as our allied industry partners to keep the business of of our essential industry running so. We just hope that everybody stays safe and healthy. We get through all this and will well look forward to to better days ahead. It's It's certainly interesting times. Well Cam. Thank you for keeping things rolling out there in Washington DC with your team advocating for the industry even amid the pandemic and being a voice for the nation's potato industry again. Thank you so much came. Quarrel CEO of the National Potato Council friends don't go away. The representative from Washington represented band. New House is coming up next. As we return back to the days. I M potato podcast promised. We're going to continue to talk about the issues impacting the potato industry here in the United States, one of those issues is having a legal reliable agricultural guest workforce. This is an issue. The National Potato Council continues to work on in Washington DC and with their partners up on Capitol, Hill, and joining us here today. From the Great State of Washington representing Washington's Fourth District United States representative Dan newhouse joins US representative. How are you doing today? I'm doing great lane. Thank you very much for having me on your podcast today to talk about some some things that are really critical for for agriculture, not just in Washington not just in Montana, but really all over the country, so appreciate having some some airtime to talk about these things well again. Thank you so much for taking time I know it's A. It's a busy busy time out in Washington DC back in your home, state of Washington with the current climate around the corona virus. So as as we look at this, maybe could you tell us more about yourself? For maybe our audience? That isn't familiar. With your leadership in Congress and maybe even talked about being one of those very few farmers that is in Washington DC. Well? We're kind of a maybe we should be on the ESA endangered species less. There's very few farmers and ranchers left in the United States. Congress I think less than twenty and I'm I'm one of them. I've carbon, the central part of Washington state in the Lower Yakima. Valley, we re raise hops mostly, but also tree fruits and grapes and. Raise lots of other things over my farming career family farm now are a fourth generation so. Anyway very engaged in these issues, always looking to see where we can be helpful to agriculture, and and really if you talk to almost any farmer What's what they're concerned with issues that are important to them. Trade Water and certainly Labor Labor is one of the biggest things that a many farmers deal with throughout the country, so it's at a critical situation as as you talked about the the effort to have a not only inadequate, the number of people helping us on our farms, but a legal workforce is truly something that we need something that we can no longer depend on people that do not have the proper documents to work on our farms and. Just to what's at stake for our industry, not to have a legal workforce. Congressman just a few weeks ago, several of us were in Washington DC for the potato DC flying, and on the steps of the Capitol a press conference, was held with a bipartisan lineup of elected officials, talking about the farm workforce Modernization Act and the you were one of those speakers, but of course you are one of the key co-sponsors that bill with Idaho's representative, Simpson and California's representative Lofgren, so the farm workforce modernization. Act could we just give a quick overview about what this legislation is? And how low is truly a great first step and looking at a negotiated compromise on this very very difficult issue. Absolutely it's. Nothing simple in. Putting together legislation, but but really there's three main ingredients to the to this to this bill. Title, there's three titles the first one we deal with the current workforce. Do All. We can to make sure that people that are currently working in our industry have a way to become right with the law. So that's that's title. One title to looks at improvements to the H. Two A. Program itself, and how we can hiccup faster, more efficient, more responsive to the needs of American agriculture and more. More cost effective as well It doesn't work for everybody right now you'd have to be. It costs a lot of money to utilize the program, and so we're trying to make available to. Farmers of all sizes. And also expanded so that all kinds of agriculture can be included in utilize the program for instance right now. If if you. If you are a Dairyman, you cannot use the H. Two A. Program, so we're. We're making some changes to allow all types of agriculture to use it, and then the third title once we get all of these other changes in place, the title three will phase in the utilization of the electric fixation system e-verify so that we can be certain that the people that we employ. Have Gone through all the processes that were putting in place so that we could continue to not only secure our border, but and remove incentives to illegally cross, but that we do have a legal workforce. So so simple! As you can imagine a lot of the things that. Are included in this become very very complex great points of debate The bill that we put together as you as you mentioned, late is truly a bipartisan effort. It's a compromise bill. It's not a bill that either side. If they had had the chance to write it by themselves, it probably wouldn't look like what we have in front of us today. But I think it represents a great improvement over the status quo in will allow us to move forward in a very positive way into the Senate to make some some some improvements, some changes and get something to the president's desk that we can. We can all look at and and say that. Yes, this is better than what we have. Now will allow her agriculture to really thrive and prosper. As you mentioned, it has to be a compromise in the US Senate, and just kind of set that up for listeners you look back to the last farm bill that was passed. That was a compromise taking aspects of both houses legislation to to get that final bill, and as we look, and as we, we anticipate hopefully the Senate picking this piece of legislation up. What are some of those key things that you would like the Senate to improve on if you were able to to to have the perfect bill? Well there's a couple of things. From the state, of Washington we can guess we hold the honor of highest efforts rate in the country. wages are high there really high and many many of my. Firming and ranching colleagues tell me that they've already gone past the threshold of being so high, they can't be profitable so. We worked very hard on trying to come up with a new formula to reflect the reality. that. We see in egg. I think. We came up with something. That's that's reasonable. But if the Senate can improve upon what we what we did I I'm all for that if we can find out more reasonable with to address wages. We did put a cap on them. They can no longer go up by these crazy numbers. We've seen fifteen up to twenty two percent. Some states obscene in one year. We put a cap of three and a quarter percent That's all what the. The can go up. But still like I said. We started out at a very high number and so we. We need to continue talking about that. That's probably one of the biggest things that certainly I talked about the fact that now dairies and others that offer permanent employment can't. Take advantage of it through this bill, but I I would like to see the definition of agriculture expanded so that four segments of the egg industry could could utilize the H. Two A. Program that is the food industry as one that the food industry, they they. They certainly have issues Some of the processing plants that are aggravated certainly egg products, but they they can't take advantage of is so some of those kinds of things I'd be open to the discussion of that as well and then. another thing that comes to mind right now. I think agriculture is the only industry that is required to pay through the HR program if you bring in Workers Housing and transportation, It seems like that. We could find some way that the employees themselves could contribute something towards that, and that's that's. That's something that I would be open to that conversation as well so those are just three things at that areas of improvement that the Senate may be looking at. Congressman when you're out and about with your constituents in Washington state, what are some of the top priorities that producers are discussing in seeing a full solution to the immigration discussion. Are Are they adding some more dialogue to to the the bill that passed the House and maybe having that conversation with members of the Senate wh. What are you hearing as of today from your constituents on this bill? For the most partly I'm hearing from people that The sediment that. Finally we have some concrete improvements to Labor in this country we haven't passed major reformed egg labor since nineteen eighty six. It's it's definitely time it's over. You know our system. Our industry has moved beyond the the laws that govern egg labor currently, and so we. We gotta make some changes I think that the that's that's something that people expressed to me. They're happy that we finally are are getting some needed changes and the other is I think the the dire nature of the employment situation to begin with that that it's? It's really difficult to find an adequate number of people to help us. Produce our farm products and so expressing that is also something. That's very key. That has to be communicated to senator so that there's an urgency on their part. To to move forward either with this bill or a bill of their own that we can come together conference and and work through some compromises, but we need to move this issue forward I think that's something that. I'm hearing from a lot of my producers at their anxious to do. So when we look at the timeline line of this is essential at this gets brought up in the Senate before the twenty twenty elections take place. I think we've got a window to be able to do that. you know. At least a couple of weeks ago a month ago I would say we had a great opportunity now. You mentioned that they corona virus. Thing that's happening at seems to be taking them up most everyone's attention. so regatta deal with that as well and by the way that's impacting our labor program to. I still think that. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A. There's an understanding in the Senate and the House on Howard. This issue is I I I I'm one of those that has optimistic that we have an opportunity to deal with this before the twenty twenty election. Like, I said it don't mean to over dramatic dramatic cise this, but it is a dire situation in parts of the country in the cost of labor continues to to Spike It's very unpredictable. And, the availability of Labor is truly a problem that is that is costing our industry and individual producers, a tremendous amount of money every year and so That's why we need to continue to communicate. How urgent a situation it is and I think we've got a great chance of getting that. You mentioned that the last time that in egg labor bill was brought up in Congress was nineteen eighty-six, so we are thirty plus years removed from the last time that this issue truly had some legs. How historic though is it to to see this to see the bipartisan collaboration between Europe Party in other other party, coming together, and really proving that things can be worked on behalf of America's farmers. It's. It's really refreshing. To See people come together with a common goal, not necessarily agree on every single thing. That's absolutely not the case like I said before. If the Republicans had written, the bill would look difference. The Democrats had read the bill on their would look different, but by having. The employers very engaged in this by having a labor very gauged being bipartisan. I think that we've come up with a product that It's one of those things that everybody gave something and everybody got something. I think it's really a good demonstration of how legislating? Can Be an the kind of quality product that we can get by by practicing that now. He's a perfect I'd be the first to tell. It is not that's. But you never get perfect out of this process, and we should let perfect be the enemy of the good I. think it makes. A good step forward improves what we have today in and I'm excited about the. Potential that we have moving through the Senate and letting them do the same thing, and hopefully they can find places that they can. Improve in. Perfect that it really is an example of. bipartisanship and then people wanting to work together to create something better than we have today, and so I'm very replaced by that and what I think representative Lofgren for reaching out to me and others. There's so many people that have been working on on this over the last year. It's been a team effort and and excited about getting getting across the finish line to the president head so that we can, we can hold up and say that we. Accomplish something good for the industry in the United States. Congressman I know you are probably have a very busy day. because I know you're back in your home state of Washington What's your last message that you have for? Members of the National Potato Council on how they can play a part? From from their home operations in seeing this legislation move forward. So the potato industry has always been just a tremendous advocate for their their industry for promoting potatoes domestically internationally for making sure people understand the the high quality products that we produce in this country And I think what what the data industry needs to continue to do is exactly that and communicate your decision makers in Washington DC and in the the the the agricultural industry. We've gotTa do this together. You know if if the data industry can work together with all the different commodity groups in the country. If. We're all with one voice talking to now the senators making sure that they understand that this is something that agriculture not only once, but needs I think we're truly going to be successful so that that continued. Let's make the case. Let's let's moving forward and I think that we're going to be successful. Well Congressman thank you so much for giving insight on the farm workforce, Modernization Act and other aspects of of the situations that we are seeing across the nation and the impact, that coronavirus may have on the food supply chain again. The U R first elected official on the PODCAST. Thanks for taking the time to join us here today. Well, I feel honored I appreciate you having me on. Thank you very much. In. EPA join you anytime. You want me to great well. Thank you so much again. US Representative Dan newhouse from the State of Washington forensic will do it for today's. podcast on my northbound have a great day. Thanks for tuning in to the National Potato Council. I on potatoes PODCAST WITH HOSTS LANE NORDLAND for more information visit National Potato, council dot org and make sure to subscribe to the podcast today.

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Hour 2: 10/9/18

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 2: 10/9/18

"Carello everybody you're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold. Dr. Pepper mission where every day is Saturday in everyone's a fan, even babies and the seasons never change because the only season is college football season get a taste of fans Ville this fall during a college football game near you Dr Pepper, the official Drake, a fans Ville grab some today. Pride, passion and patterns re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show our to podcast. Welcome back after a very busy first hour we continue. We had Joe Moorhead on and looking forward to talking to you at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five more calls more guests later, including curb street. And Jesse Palmer will dip into Louisiana, find out about the Tigers and chase, Elliott. Just off a big win on the NASCAR circuit at Dover will join us not only talk about the NASCAR season, but his love and affinity for the Georgia BULLDOGS stick around for that l. d. is in Gainesville and you are on the air. Hello l. d. a. little call. Good afternoon. Thank you. Probably the best sports show on on TV. I, I really enjoyed very much. I was calling about the defense. I think it was insulin Bharti that said, the best offense is a great defense. And Florida has a great defense. We really do. Franks is a working process. I noticed he had eleven brushes no sacks, so they're offensive line is getting better and thinking that he really didn't panic, didn't throw many interceptions. I think he's going to be a great quarterback. It's it's just gonna, take them a little while. He's, he's, he's going to be good at running. Also kind of a Tibo in in the works. I just wanted to say Molin zoo and a heck of a job. And I hope he stays here long enough to to bring him pool a championship. You know, I all day I, I don't have any doubt he will. I mean to me being down there over the weekend and I, it just seems like Dan Mullen is home again, thank you very, very much for the call. Ed is next, hey, Paul, how are you? Yeah, what's going on? Man? Well, I got some news for you, but. Okay. So for the first time and you hear now as years. My specialist burn factious diseases. Mainly lime disease. Called me last week and told me my blood work showed absolutely no traces. Of any kick related disease in my life. That's incredible ad. Congratulations. That was some news that I've been here for believe it or not. It's going on three years. But maybe we're on our way, Where'd you are? You sound great. Well, everybody tells me, I sound great. I'm getting better. You know for a while there, my wife did not want me to call. She did not want me to be honest with you to make a spectacle of myself on national television. And I never knew what was coming when I go. I never knew I was gonna, screw up of is going to, you know, now I feel a little bit more confident in my thinking waste and get back to football. So what about the dogs. I believe the dogs are disappointed me quite time this year. I also believe that the in the country, but the number corner country, I believe vandy. Last week. Really show Georgia. Georgia can do the second half of last week's game. Finally, once you both fields in, I think that's coming. And there's so much talent there and they're so young. Yeah, people forget how young they really are so many freshmen and sophomores playing, you know, starting roles at his team and you gotta admit this once a score got to be fourteen to three against bandy. It looked like a different team. They finally kicked up and they finally. Push the ball. I think it was five straight for touchdowns. And we'll see. I think they can take issue. But we'll see if the games are different game, and I still know one things to sure. We lost the last game last year and it hurt. And in order to be there, you gotta get there. So that's just plan and see what happens to Georgia. I think I think Irvy's too good. And you have to, I know you've thought so that talent there's believable. It really is. It's listen. Thank you very much. Really great to hear from you. So glad to hear you're feeling better. Barbara is up next. Hello? Barbara. Hey, Paul, how you doing? We're doing great Barbara. Good. I just have a few things to say, first of all, I don't. I don't wanna say this. 'cause golly, I don't want Daryl caller back and yell at me. Like Jim did don't. We're not ever let it callback after that code. What I'm saying. But I, I don't think that that that all Georgia fans are like that and it makes me sad a little bit because we're not. And you know, I think every teams they have, they're very passionate football. I mean fans that just sometimes I think they lose sight of what's really, you know, important and I'm thinking, Georgia's Georgia's going to be fine and we don't. We don't need callers calling in to defend the number two country because they're, they're good. Now I'm not saying that these next gangs down the road are really going to see what Georgia's really made of. And I think they will be tested, but I do think that Georgia will win. I have all the confidence in the world and Kirby, and I think the team hasn't will be tested these next three games. But I, I asked you, I think. Called I tried to call last week, but somehow got disconnected, but that's okay. When are you going to have Kirby on? And when you're going to like talk to Jake and about, you know. That we. You know, we always try to get coaches on when we are in town and Kirby every year we've been to Georgia has come on, he will occasionally come on when available. We. We really have very little control over that coaches, let us know when they will be available. So we try to grab like we had more head on. We had JIMBO yesterday, so somewhat hit and miss are we have a great relationship with curvy. So when he is free to come on, we will definitely have him on, but we've had him on many, many times in the past, we'll take a break more to come on a Tuesday afternoon. We're coming right back listening to Paul finebaum show podcast, welcome back as we continue chase Elliott coming up shortly. Jesse Palmer, curb street busy afternoon here as we continue Austin is in Birmingham. Austin welcome to the program. Good after them. How you doing Paul, we're doing well. Well, first topic I want to say is a first time caller, of course. Response to these Georgia fans that are thinking, Alabama needs are, have we don't? We appreciate you attempt for saving. I don't believe that that defense play down to the level they played against Arkansas. I think you'll fix it Presidio agree would think so, yes. Another thing too got injured during the Arkansas game. Not sure what it was. No, it wasn't very big or anything along those lines, but is there any update on what the injury may have been? I have not heard a specific update on that. I'm guessing it's not serious though. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was able to finish the game. I was just curious what it was. Oh, yeah. To your house day fans. I'm sorry that you have to deal with those, but. Well, tides. All I got to say, and we'll see all in the championship. If that's where y'all, I wanna play us. Thank you. They'll have much choice about that. Corey is in Georgia. Hello accord. Hey, how you doing for? Well, thank you very much. Fantastic show trevy on personal. I mean, these St. Panzer delusional. I mean Alabama's best team. I've seen in my lifetime there. I mean, and I'm a diehard Georgia van. I have no problem admitting it, but Alabama's on a different level. I wanted to get your take on the Georgia LSU game this weekend. Georgia's young team. I, I'm not sure why everybody's not giving you a chance. You know, I'm I'm a little nervous about the game and like get your your thoughts and your prediction on on the game this weekend. Yeah, Georgia is a touchdown favor, and I think that's based on the perception of them. I haven't gotten to deepen the to the analysis yet. We'll do that as we get closer. This came should be getting a lot more attention. And I think if if LSU in one, yeah, we would be talking about the biggest game of the year in college football. I don't think that affects the outcome very much. I, it's, you can't ever be surprised if LSU wins a game in tiger stadium. Hal is up next in South Carolina. Hello Hal, fellow Powell cockpit. Do first first-time caller did here. Got a question here. You know how if he see is is unpredictable. Sometimes I gotta give it to the dogs. You know they're doing a good job this year and they beat us fair and square. But Georgia always has that bad game. It seems like throughout history. And what do you think the chances or for another three way, tie in the SEC east and I'm talking Kentucky, Georgia Carolina. Well, I, I don't believe it will happen. I really don't, but I think Saturday to me, thank Saturday is definitely a difficult game. So as Kentucky game, but Kentucky is the school I would be most interested in Kentucky. Could run the table from here on, and then that would create some issues. But I'm, I'm not of the opinion that will happen. Yeah, I wish people thinking, oh, but I just want to say, I think that go naked a great job last week, and you know, I'd like to see them again, but I do believe Jake Bentley's going to start a game, but I am predicting South Carolina over a and I think this will be the set that no one is going to see this week. Yeah, I mean that that would not be a surprise to me. Thank you very, very much for the call. Bill is in Rochester, Hilla Bill city after noon file. How are you today? We're doing great Bill some so nice if you call us. Well, sir. I just wanna. Why do you keep taking calls from Daryl and Lance with their yelling and screaming it? It is an excellent question, and I'm not sure I have a very good answer. I try. I try to be. Indiscriminate when it comes to taking calls, but Darryl can be Darryl would definitely be high on the annoying level. Yes, he. I've started to become entertained by lances calls. Okay. One is that he daily Sheridan gonna be on. Again, that is a good question. We were trying to get Danny on this week. I'm not sure we were able to pull that off, but I'll I'll find out soon. What would you like one that I'll let you go last week. They saw my good friend Mark wearing an Alabama had with John Early in the show. I think that's the best he's ever looked. What about it Mark? Is he. Hi Bill. Mike question to all is the same question. You posed to him about Daryl and Lance. Why does he keep taking your calls now? No, I think that is rather rude to my good friend Bill here from Rochester. Yes, it is. But that's what I would expect from somebody from the west side. I heard it is see the curious. Yes, there is see. Man, I thought you were coming over to the dark side park Bill you. You did something the other day because I I was talking to Mark afterwards and I don't know east versus west in Rochester, but you you, you you on nurse unearth something about Mark that I didn't know. And it's it's a chip on his shoulder from what side of Rochester he's from. It's called jealousy wasn't good to hear from you. We'll discuss east versus west in Rochester when we come back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the event of football, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken was savage digital, anything to help, bro. I was in survival mode. Your football can't help you in a hailstorm, but the guy go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage, call gyco to see how a Ford -able homeowners insurance can be welcome back as we roll on a Tuesday afternoon, chase Elliott joining us a little bit later. So is Jesse Palmer curb street as well? So it's a busy show, and let's continue with more phone calls and rob is in Cincinnati, rob. Thank you. Good afternoon. Call first time caller the big Buckeye fan. But my question for you is, if you see, f was one of a four and defeated teams, do you think they have any chance of making the playoffs? No, I don't. They don't have the schedule and being undefeated is great, but I don't know how you could possibly look at UCF schedule and tell anyone that they have done enough. I realized they play this casual, they're handed, but to me, it just doesn't compare and contrast with the major components of what we're talking about here. So. Declare yourself national team? Yeah, you know, I I, I'm sorry, but, but I always liked to look at it this way you put you give UCF Georgia's schedule or Alabama's or clemson's or Notre Dame's, or how stay for that matter, would they would they be undefeated. I dare say they wouldn't believe so too. Yeah. I mean, I mean, just just think about just give them Alabama schedule since everyone wants to talk about how bad Alabama schedule is UCF, would they beat Louisville? Probably. Oh, what else would they be able to do? Could they win against Missouri at at home? I don't know. Could they beat LSU on the road. Could they beat Mississippi State? Could they beat Auburn. Could they be Georgia in an SEC championship game? I don't. I don't think so. I think they would have a couple of losses and I know they beat Auburn last year. Those are special circumstances. I think Auburn coming in there after after to LA after a loss in the SEC championship game, I'm not making excuses. I'm just giving you an opinion. Let's continue. Michael is up next Michael good afternoon. How you doing. We're doing great. I live in Hoover, Alabama, and I'm a huge Michigan fan. So I get a lot of flack on it, but I'm assuming Michigan runs the table the next weeks, Wisconsin then stayed that Nate. Then we got Rutgers in Indiana, and then we play house. They west the chassis. You think we can run the table get into the big championship game and then a playoff spot. Well, my my issue is your scenario is, is Michigan getting past Ohio State and Columbus. I don't think that's going to happen. Right? I mean, that's a, that's that's been our dependent six, seven years. We can't can't get by. But I, I do. They Michigan's played very well and the one loss to Notre Dame. It's a really good law. So what happens this weekend, I think is really important. This is a big game. Wisconsin has been banged up a little bit because of the early loss. But I, I am impressed with Jim Harbaugh being able to get to this point, I watched the the north western game and defensively, it's hard to find more two nations unit than than what Michigan has. Thank you very much for the call. Let's continue with more calls and Troy is in Florida. Hey, Troy, good afternoon. Guitar setting time calling. Thank you. This won't say first off though caters of man, what a start the season we start off with and you know, I got, I got a lot of friends up in into, and I really got rats pretty hard about that loss sip, Kentucky. And I wanna say that, you know, I, I was telling him there when it happened. I said, you know, you guys need to step back. I think Kentucky's a little better team than what you're giving them credit for. And lo and behold, you know, Kentucky is what what I thought they were. They've been a good team at all that the instead I know that our offense is slogan a little bit, but where do you. What Florida born from here for as. Household or make it in. And how far do you think their way from really, really doing good in the SEC? Well, I mean, I still think this season has a couple of more bumps ahead. I would say mainly Georgia, and after that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think Florida has a shot at a nine and three Mark regular season. I don't think Florida is far from being back back to you. Are they back to where they were under Spurrier on a consistent basis or urban? No, I think I think the program needs a little more depth than recruiting in, but but I think Mullen is good enough to work with quarterbacks that he can overcome some of the other deficiencies, but but I don't think we'll take long. It really don't other than what I saw last weekend convinced me would are. I think I already knew the that Molin is one of the best coaches in the conference, and he's been that way now for five or six years. Thank you very much for the call though. Preciado it. David is in Florida. David, go right ahead, not be able to actually fun to get get through to Paul. Appreciate taking my call brother. Thank you very much. I speak on, you know, everybody's like you Daryl calling in and saying how good George is. You know you take two seconds to go look up on your phone and see the DOJ. Eight played a deep bench like Florida or Alabama or LSU this whole season about to find out. Nobody go through. I believe, toughest stretch. They're going to have, but I don't want to talk about Georgia, but because I'm a gator fan, I'm not going to be like Lance, yell and scream, even though he's my boy, but the things has that Hort that. I haven't seen a gator team having a long time, you know, just like you look at the defense. They got people on each level ball and I feel like they're better team than they've been along time the coaches. They're also I, I don't know. What do you think Paul? Well, I don't think there's any doubt the coaching is there, and that's the difference. I mean last year, Jim mcelwain I know what to say. I, I can't remember coach. I've been more disappointed in. I think Jim mcelwain technically was a good football coach. But his inability to lead that program continues to obeys me. Thank you very much for the call. Trent is in Texas and you are on the air. Hello? Trent. Hey, Paul, how are you? Voting. All good. Thank you very much shrimp first time, all horn fan calling here. I just wanted to get your opinion after the big win again. So you and I time we've been ranked in the top ten in eight years and just wanted to see your opinion on the longhorns chances of getting into the playoffs. Well, not impossible. I think that's the school we really. We really haven't thought much about, but if you if you look at the schedule and I'm trying to remember him my mind, I know where's the West Virginia game? Is that an Austin often November fifth, that's a big. I mean, that's a huge game. That's suddenly a game that nobody really was looking at you. You can get a win there and and win the meal. Let's say Texas runs the table. I think the chances are really good. Do you think it'll be a rematch? Probably in the big twelve. I do w. Okay. You know a hold on which I'm trying to remember which side everybody's on in that league would would. There's there's no sides it's, you know, hopefully so. So Texas would play the number two team. Right? Right. Randy are too. So that would either be, oh, you or West Virginia most likely? Yeah. I need to see what that matchup is, but I don't want to sound like a cliche machine, but beating. Oh, you twice in the same season would be tough. All right. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. The fact we're having that conversation is pretty remarkable though. Yeah, I forgot. When last year was the first year, the big twelve did away with divisions, and now they just play the top two teams. Jesse Palmer will join us shortly. Look forward to talking to him about the upcoming season. The first who's in show tonight. Even though we're three weeks away from the first poll, we'll get jesse's take on all of that. When we come back listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back to the program which grab some more calls here and max is in Michigan max. Thanks for taking my call how you doing. I'm doing great. Thank you very much. Awesome. I've got a quick comment and a question for you. My comment is I'm actually born and raised in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. When the university for about eight years. I'm she moved to Michigan for work, but this is just a comment to anybody who like wants closer games for the Alabama game. That doesn't like these blue outs. My question Israel, mount fans like, do you enjoy watching your team, get scored on? Do you enjoy watching your team? Not or like I enjoy watching those things every time the team take the people don't wanna see him score or stopped the other teams, though we're a big air of dominance, and it's a really cool thing to say. So my comment, but I'm my question for you is your show and the Dan Le Batard show with do got or my favorite sports talk shows wasn't any of that other show. The Dan lebatardshow was through God's. It's on ESPN radio and ESPN u., but I was wondering, are you familiar? You'll wear of their affection for you on that show Paul fine bucket, for example, where they put their fines and stuff. And they, they talked about every out. Again. They seem to have a big affection for young wondering. That started about a year ago or your and a half ago, and it it is. I mean, they are making fun of me. I get that, but that's okay. The the finebaum what is it a bobblehead they have or the fine bucket defined bucket? Yeah, we like that here. Cool. Yeah, I think I think there is some some some respect in there for you as well from them, but but the shows are great. I just want to say that they begin Paul shit enroll Todd. Thank you very much. Okay. Jordan is up next in Florida. Hello? Jordan. Hi, Paul, either. I just wanted to ask about SEC expansion, and if you you heard or thought that there would be any future plans for SEC expansion and what was the context that the last expansion happened in. Well, there there have been two expansions in in recent memory. The nineteen Ninety-two expansion, which we will was South Carolina and Arkansas. And then the most reason came five or six years ago that was Missouri, am I? And then Missouri as we sit today, I think there is no conversation or no plans at all for expansion. Expansion is usually caused by another effect or causing a fact. And Jordan right now in until things change on the on the on the college football landscape. And that could happen three, four, five years down the road. I think that is a dead issue. Meanwhile, let's move along to our next guest. And Holiday Inn express presents Jesse Palmer to be the reds, and I know for a fact that Jesse Palmer knows about being the radio since we did a Holiday Inn express commercial recently. Jesse good afternoon. My breakfast was the best apparently Jordan Rogers, the ended of winning it was garbage. I definitely one that I was easily the and I promise I'm ready right and know I would. I would actually prefer to just talk about that. That experience in. We wasn't done in a Hollywood says, set. It was done in Philadelphia all places it was, but it had a Hollywood field because you were there at least that's star power. The A-List talent was there, and it made it all better. It was on a Sunday afternoon. Everyone had come in from parts on known and it was. It was a memorable day. Jesse just being able to hang around. You is. A check a bucket list that day. But but but since they're telling me, I have to talk football with you. Let me let me start with Alabama. I some are comparing them to the greatest team since Notre Dame in the thirties, but how? How good do you see this team being most dominant team in college football to me, it's them and everybody else I would say at least at this point entering week, seven of the football season, it's the best team Nick Sabin has had. I don't think any of his other national championship teams would beat this team. I think the biggest difference is the play of quarterback to a tongue via lower. They just looked so much more explosive in lethal throwing the football than they ever have. And certainly they've got weapons scattered all across the field. I don't know if there's ever been a quarterback as a fish int- as to has been this year, he's throwing twenty-five incompletions eighteen touchdowns no interceptions. I mean you, you can't make that kind of stuff up and certainly, Alabama hasn't really been tested yet this year. Year old, miss Louisville been. Everyone's got LSU circled on November third, but we know we knew this coming into the year. The schedule is going to set up this way for Alabama. A lot of key games being played at home. But right now to me, this is the best team Nick Sabin has had. I think that's a big reason why he's getting angry at the student's section and not so much team anymore. There's just not a lot to be upset about, but Jesse give him credit every week. He finds something to be upset about. Look, it upset about our commercial if he thought he would definitely not like no, like you losing in that, let me get to Georgia because they played a better brand to competition by going to South Carolina and winning convincingly. There are still questions though because we have a Nick Sabin clone an disciple coaching. The team there are, I would say of the top six teams right now, I guess the one thing you could be critical about Georgia about is the fact that like you mentioned really haven't been tested yet that South Carolina game probably their toughest today. So we're going to learn a whole lot about the BULLDOGS obviously coming up here in the next several weeks. This really is the gauntlet of their schedule and it starts on Saturday on the road at LSU, Florida in Kentucky, obviously, much better teams than I think anybody anticipated at the start of the year in the obviously end that with Auburn, the one thing I've loved about washing the BULLDOGS so far this year Paul is that they just run the football on anybody they want, and arguably the deepest stable of running backs in the entire country that'll get tested against a very good LSU defense on the road, a very physical defense with a lot of teams, speed. I think to win that game, Jake from is going to have to be lights out and just going back and watching a lot of film on Jake. From this past week, I've been really, really impressed with what I've seen. And I know a lot of people have kind of questioned how he would handle Justin fields coming in and out of games and Kirby smartest that really don't have a plan. We just kinda put him in going by the feel it doesn't seem to have -ffected Jake from at all. And I think that for them. To beat LSU on the road in that kind of hostile environment? Yes, they'll have to run the football, but they're going to need Jake from to make big throws. And if they are going to survive this gauntlet, they need him to play well, and I believe he's easily good enough to get through all that unscathed. I do cook coming. You mentioned Florida. In Saturday was a revelation down. There just seemed like it was like the like the good old days when you were there and and then later with urban, do you think. Dan Mullen has turned, I know he's turned a corner, but, but how much of one? Yeah, I think he's definitely got it going that way. And I think you make an interesting point. Certainly, I think when you've watched Florida throughout the years, whether it was urban or must champ or mcelwain or Mullen to be a head coach at Florida. Apparently last message starting 'em. They always play great defense, and we continue to see that this year, but I think we're seeing physicality on offense again in their ability running the football. That was really my biggest take. We always talk about Philippe a Franks, but to go out and run the football thirty plus thirty five plus forty times against that defense stay committed to it in have success. That to me was was an inspirational. I think if you're a gator fan, I don't think the Gators ever get back to SEC dominance or at least getting close to that level again until their dominant up front again on offense in the trenches. And I think we're maybe starting to see that come back a little bit. You know, I had a lot of former teammates. Former NFL teammates. I played with it Florida. They were at that game against LSU and they said the swamp felt like it used to feel back in the day. The swamp can be a real home field advantage for the Gators again, something I don't think it's been probably since Tim tebow played at Florida. So it's certainly there's a lot of optimism going on in Gainesville right now. And of course now everyone's attention, two weeks, Jacksonville, when the Gators play Georgia, just you knew you rank your top for every Saturday night Sunday morning, but it. But it's about two o'clock in the morning, and I'm not sure how many people are. I see the five AM version or if we're actually awake at the time, we're wrecking those things, but but. Now that it's in the middle of the afternoon in most parts of the country who are your top for? So I got Alabama. At number one, we talked about them. I've got Ohio State at two Dwayne Haskins. A quarterback has having be single best season of quarterback for the buckeyes as ever had, which is saying something I do have questions about their Defense. Paul, they're giving up way too many explosive plays, but I think they're win at Penn State was the best win in college football today? At this point of the season, I got Clemson at three. I give them a lot of credit for winning at Texas early in the year, and I give him credit for beating Syracuse when Trevor Lawrence got hurt, they've been running the football so well on offense. The last two weeks, Travis e. t. n. is just taking off. And of course their defense makes them a favorite and the remainder of their games at finally, I've got Notre Dame at number four. I've seen enough now from Ian book in the last three games to believe that this is a complete team. This is a playoff caliber team. In my opinion, they're balanced on offense. They can run it and throw it defensively. They got difference makers at all three levels of the field of all the top six teams to me. Right now Paul, I think Notre Dame is the best combination of passing the quote, unquote. I test and also the resume beating Michigan beating Stanford with Bryce love which is key, and then winning at on the road at Virginia Tech Demy has just been very impressive. We talked about how Georgia really hasn't been tested quite just yet, and that's why I've got them on the outside looking in, but I'm got Notre Dame at four. I'm a believer in the Irish. Jesse will be on the top twenty five show tonight on ESPN two. Jesse always great to have you on. Thank you very, very much. All right. Be the radius. Paul. Especially Falmer. Wish we had video while we do have video that commercial since they shot it. Your answer your question sometimes on this program, Fred is up next in Texas. How are you Fred. I'm doing well, thank you for taking my call. I, I wanna say, congrats to the Florida. Gators look. They are better than I even thought, and they're dangerous for the rest of the seasons of the restaurant, a big win. All I gotta pick one thing drew Brees and look. I've been watching NTT's network. It was a little bit on that. I saw the NFL networks and ESPN on the mother channel, intimate tell you something. Paul is almost criminal. The way they drew Brees had been treated in the discussion of all time. Greats acting breaking all time passing record last night. And some of the reasons that have been heard. Have you heard of some of these reason why? Not all the time? Yeah, watch the game. Some of the reasons know how factor and I was disappointed a form of Tiga. One Clark, seven building the wall, and then went on to say that he wasn't even in the same league as a as a bread farm, and the quote really hurt me. He said that he studied red fawn and that he positionally no matter what he did read fall would do something that he just couldn't stop who said, do breathe is not that guy, and that that really stung that that guy with the more of your pastor gave anybody in history, more five thousand passing cheeses. Anybody here someone getting them would just say, just made my point down drew Brees when he came to New Orleans with his dislocated and shredded shoulder Kansas City with most of the citizens have been dislocated and he came, he said, I wanna play here and the extraordinaire kit on this that he has deplored if it works with with football from city thirteen years ago, there was record. Agreed has been incredible last night, you heard him say something. He said, I love you so much that board as a as a Brittany hill, the daughter that you can accomplish anything in life if you're willing to work for. And it reminded me in poverty landed you of a quote by Mark Twain we should keep away some people who try to belittle ambitious, small people will always do that. But the really great people make you feel that you too can become great to missing as Fred. We'll get to the end of the quote from other time.

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"Hero saddest news of the day Momo had to quit dairy because of the baby. Seriously. Do you know what even over her life like buttering everything you're letting this baby takeover your entire life? Okay. Listen, you're the boss if dairy he tends to come down with us. Like rash gets like eggs, Emma or something. And it seems to be tied to me having like milk cheese and butter is here. I want to change. Is go Lakers around the clock. Anthony Davis on the market New Orleans. Lebron will they trade him? And we've got updated from Brad Turner right now. This is just twenty minutes ago. The Lakers have landed in Indianapolis update on Lakers, pelicans talks Magic Johnson del dams. Talked twice today per sources Lakers willing to give telecoms cap relief for Anthony Davis by taking Solomon hill for Lonzo ball Kyle. Kuzma, Brandon Ingram regime, Rondo Lance. Stevenson, Michael Beasley and two first round picks. Wow. And part of Santa Monica. Only the pier. Yeah. That is crazy offer. So it's like the Herschel Walker trade it really is the Herschel Walker train. But in this case, I think whoever gets Anthony Davis wins the trade. Yeah. If you get Anthony Davis, you've won the trade. Well, you also get Carmelo Anthony. Maybe we know you'll probably know trade is you probably do wind up with. Here's let me let me. Meet let me listen the out free, by the way, I heard Richard Jefferson on get up on the get up say if if it happens he'll come out of retirement and play for the. And him, and Luke or already honor buddy makes makes good sense ends up happening. If you trade like, basically the entire team, okay? With. I guess you're holding onto like a mauve and Casey. I didn't hear zoo. Batman man knows who box was not on that being there somewhere. Hip high being there somewhere? He's good anybody. Good probably the train. I dunno mobile Ogden had a game the other night. But okay. Game the other night. But like, I think way just Dunkin in dolphins of fishery named Brian floors as new head coach and the Bengals have officially named ramps. Quarterbacks. Coach Zac Taylor as their new head coach go for the dolphins after that game plan. That's the quarterback coach say with the Lakers. I think if I was prognosticating, and I could be wrong. But I'm prognosticating the far more likely option is that they don't get Anthony Davis before Thursday because New Orleans is incentivized to wait for better offers towards the draft. Okay. However, the far more likely option for L A would be to do something smaller and most likely I would think like the veterans because they have good trade ships in the sense that they have a couple of veterans on one year deals. So those are desirable for other teams, and they have a willingness to take on money for this year, not not for next year. But a willing to take the money for this year, and they have a willingness to part with future first. So there's what they really need a shooting. Right. And they really need to stay healthy. I would say that you could upgrade in those areas at the trade deadline or in the buyout market after we get past the trade deadline, right? Somebody like, Wes. Matthew's somebody like a west Matthews or Andre? Yeah. Or you you take you know, you really need somebody. I don't think the Andre is gonna go by the Johndroe. It's going to be bought out. Don't he's Kevin Durant. Best friend. You're in Los Angeles on wait a minute. Here's the thing. We got Michael Beasley, you're the Knicks. You're trying to tank why do you want Andre on the roster not to play a game? Look if I'm them doesn't mean they can re-sign the Andrea. But I think it helps keeping him around. So after this deal, they will be left with Casey p. Okay. If that deal if that was if the deal the way every everyone and part of Santa Monica, so they will be left with Casey p spe- LeBron obviously, Josh heart land Stevenson. It beats zoo bots, Tobel, McGhee Tyson Chandler in mobile. You're just a team of Biggs it is talking about a team that needs some shooting man that is a team the needs some shooting but lives as Momo said they fill out that roster. Then with mean that probably is we're camello comes into play like it or not that's probably where play. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not I'm not a huge fan. But they do need to fill out a roster. It's point somebody like if Wes Matthews where to get bought out that would actually make a lot of sense. Great. De'andre? They don't I mean, you would not say not Andre. But I mean, they've got McGee if it comes down the way it's described by Brad Turner. They'd have mcgee's zoo, bats and Chandler still on the roster. They really would need dad shooting Caruso and MCI lick got Alex Caruso. They've got speed. Okay. Those don't count come on. On young boys. Speed is here. Josh heart would play a much bigger role. I think monster. Monster. Josh the hitman Hart legend. I'm ready. Quick plan. We the Lakers. Right. So we will keep you up to date on on that told me MoMA you watch the game show. You watch the game. What were the what what was the commercials story? Like was there? Anything good this time to me for to some degree commercials. Have also jumped the shark with the Super Bowl life, so many things the only one I liked was the one with Sarah, Michelle Gellar for lebowski. Yeah. That was that was hausky one was. That was great. I liked I guess that's Cardi B's Pepsi commercial. What was the NFL one hundred commercial? I think I had my hands in my head hurt. That we had Bradshaw and Tom Brady and it had. I'm sorry. You said Tom Brady threw up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. That was me yesterday. Every time they call every time they called his number. You know, one of the things about this Rams team is and I think we should highlight. This is that it was still despite what happened yesterday a hell of a great seasons. Great. It was a hell of a great seasons. Great game. I really wasn't. I was entertained even though I took the hair by yesterday's game show. I mean, we're I know I know that my team is built around this defense, and I've never seen anybody. Hold Tom for that long. I we just needed to strike, and we couldn't strike the ir. We couldn't get there on offense. But I I was happy for three and a half quarters. Yeah. I mean, they were having for three and a half quarters. I was bored out of my mind, Ron. Ron as a fan. We were tied with the patriots three three going to the fourth quarter. Now, I understand that as a football fan in general that was probably not scintillating awful. But if you were a ranch fan or a patriots fan you're on the edge a couple of good defensive plays that I was excited about. But for the most part, it was like a bunch of like short arming throws, not very creative ideas on very creative. No, there was no possess. I need to see something. No drives. It was just a whole lot of Punti possess. My grandfather. Tag possess. Who's kind of sounds that's fun to say? I think we should bring that out as it was. Now, that's a good good hashtag. I mean, it's like we're looking for a hashtag for purgatory. Dead possess his ass. 'cause Chris Cuomo's got. Let's get after it. All right. We're gonna have all hashtag possess possess. Found set off George because it's it's not to say the first time you've left all day. It's the first time I've seen a little bit of joy creep back a little bit of flush comeback into your CCI. So so one one look said to me this morning that last night was a was a fever dream. I don't even remember most of it. No idea. What was killed me time wildfire at my house. Threes were burning down. I mean, he was. Wow. So you can even open the windows at all. I'll say my trip home was proudly sponsored by edibles. Make me feel good. So apparently at some point. That must have been a fun name. Right. Some point apparently Louima air. I look at one and said are we ever going to win anything, right? He never looked so sad as when I turned to remember turn to him and said are we ever going to win at anything Mace? I I'm starting to think that there is a bit of a curse. No, no, stop this opposite. Sparks just won the opposite. What are you talking about the curse LA teams? Keep getting to the big show. And losing let's give it up for the kings twenty twelve twenty fourteen. It was a while ago. It has been a good spark sixteen a good five years sports. Twenty sixteen wasn't very Candice Parker and Neka. The real scary. I mean, kind of true of there's like an a level an eight year in a beat here. Right. Isn't there? Not fair to say that. Yeah. Eight year Lakers. Stodgy dodgers ramps be tier? I don't even know if the Rams are in the year yet they needed to win straight up. They did needs win. They didn't to win you really think to win. I think they're like like in that be plus a minus tear getting to a Super Bowl three not enough. Not enough for what we're not grading on a curve out here. Tampa winners. Well, what what are the dodgers? Like, listen, there's this story. What are the Lakers? We've had five shoring. What do you mean? The greatest franchise in the maze. Anyhow starting to history town. So first time I've ever seen Rams flakes chose in the last week and a half. I think I think Lakers flags are thing. I don't think dodgers flatly. It's all over town. Dodgers flare dodger murals dodger flags dodgers, see Dr hats. I barely see Rams gear around barely see people wearing jerseys. Just this last year the last couple Greg game. He was the one I was Super Bowl. Has a ran jersey. And he was only one that. I know that has a radio they've done much traction. I think they started to the right? They're not care. But like this is new LA needs time to care. I think it's going to take even day one. I think it was going to say time it's like confetti on Figueroa, you're in if they would have if they would've won there would have been a parade. People would have been in it if they but not only do they lose. But they lost. What was possibly the worst Super Bowl of all time? Oh, it was. People are mad. They spent time going loss to gain loss article on CNN right now was that the worst Hooper bowl of all time. Well, that's fake news. Tell well. And that was this. Here's your boring. Here's what's really, actually. So boy have you seen the ratings. Well. I don't know how to read. Sure they were good because it was L A and Boston. Oh, have you seen the right now tell you about them next? Oh, how many times have to signal tease tease, the international international Sanford team. He was kinda liked bigamy knew that. I just kind of like I could make him do that. I was trying to get you to do that without shady SpongeBob. But you didn't see me do that. Bob something. So we're on Twitter that must have come up. Oh, man, Bob. So I don't even telling to steal. I don't want to hear from you. What did Sean McVay say after the game? You know, there's really no other way to put it. You know, I'm pretty numb right now. But you know, definitely I got out coach and I didn't do nearly good enough for a football team. You know, the thing. That's so tough about all this is that, you know, the finality to you know, usually when you get a chance if you go through some adversity can bounce back right away. This one's going to stick with you. And just things in your gut. And like I said, I'm still kinda numb right now, but have so much love for these players in these coaches, and that's where you know, it really, you know, it eats at you. Because you feel like you didn't do your part to help them. So there Sean McVeigh outright saying he got outcoached here. He is. He was asked. If Todd Gurley is. Okay. I I never enabled us to get into a rhythm offensively. You know, we didn't have any really third down conversions really the whole first half. And they did a good job. And then it seemed like every time that we got a little bit of a positive play. Then we'd end up having a penalty or get move ourselves back. So I think a lot of it was a result of some of the things they did. But then also the place election. You know, I I was not pleased at all with my feel for the flow of the game in kind of making some adjustments as the game unfolded into given ourselves a chance to have some success and put some points on the board, and you know, credit to them and they did a good job. And I certainly didn't do good enough force. But Batat is healthy. And you know, we just didn't really get a chance to get anybody going today offensively and that starts with me. Okay. Here's how we know. Todd gurley. Not healthy. Did you hear his answer? He was asked. If Todd Gurley is okay now, listen to how long it takes for him to get to Todd Gurley. I never enabled us to get into a rhythm offensively. You know, we didn't have any really third down conversions really the whole first half. And they did a good job. And then it seemed like. Any time that we got a little bit of a positive play. Then we'd end up having a penalty or get move ourselves back. So I think a lot of it was the result of some of the things they did. But then orient. He says, but Todd is okay. Yep. Okay. And sounds like he can still walk. He's he's touch the ball. What he was on the field for five snaps in the first half not stupid. They started the second half with him on the field. He and I think the three carries including the one big run that was called back. But he doesn't look like Todd Gurley. He doesn't look like the guy that scored fifteen all fifteen rushing touchdowns in fourteen games this year. And I wonder how different the game is if they would have had a healthy. Although no confirmation that he was hurt. But come on. Don't don't. I mean, he, you know, I feel like we've been kind of lied to. And I it's gamesmanship and all that. But like come on. Now is he hasn't been healthy since he got the for like. Eight weeks now what? Yeah. I had to pick up C J Anderson player of the year, and he's getting like three snaps in the I don't have to do it on my leg and tell me it's raining come on. Let's get serious. Is come up with. Well. I mean, but seriously, that's that's the truth. Right. Like, be honest about the only thing I can think is. If you come out and say Todd Gurley is out how much does that affect patriots? Game plan. Yeah. If there have to prepare for time. Yeah. That's right. Then they have to basically say he's a decoy for all intents. He has been since he got hurt. Clearly, he's hurt. He has to be hurt. And they played them. The first couple of snaps or the second half. To say look we do have Todd Gurley. Looked tied girlie is able to run look. He's onto fee. Yeah. He's upright. But I don't understand. Why you don't just admit that after the game tomorrow? I think I think sooner or later the story will glow come out here is Brandon co first of all here's here's the play that that could have changed the game entirely. This is fourth quarter Jared Goff at about the patriots thirty yard line. Four thirty to go in regulation. Ten three patriots. First and ten ran from the twenty seven of New England. Goth rose Whiteside over the top bookkeeper cooks. He picked at the goal line. Incomplete. Doron Harmon the safety coming over to separate cooks from the football farm in in the game because Patrick Chung is out with an arm injury. And he arrived just in the nicotine as that came over the shoulder of Brandin. Cooks cokes has potentially drop. Two touchdowns in this. Yes. As as he's running and trying to catch the ball step on Gilmore grabbed his left hand, we still able to get to handle it. You have to secure the ball in that situation. Gotta make that catch. Here's Brandin cooks. Yeah. You know, as one of those plays, you know, I've to make that play, you know, one of those bang bang plays har- harming came over the top. And I'm great enough to make that play. And I just gotta make. I gotta make the play says says Brandin cooks and truthfully we gotta be honest in. You know, I've I've been a huge Jared Goff supporter the moment way too big for him pills till hurts notes me so much just knowing how well our defense played. And and I guess that teaming is Tom to play that welcome pensively and. Not hold up our end of the bargain, and it's. Our job is for points. And we'd do that tonight. I mean, he knows he knows there's no way around it. You know, he missed open receivers. Always now when you're the person who messes up who doesn't deliver you always know. Yeah. Why is everything? So something is something at Tenny. Something's getting tinny. Can we get an engineer? Can we got our engineer in here? Yeah. We'll we'll call them. Right up problem. Right. I'll take three to six weeks, but we'll try three to six weeks. Years you won't years instead. Yeah. Could be could be by the way coverage of Rams blue Monday. Sponsored by valvoline instant oil change home in the fifteen minute oil change, just drive up pull and drive out. No time. Visit socaloilchange dot com to download up to fifteen bucks in coupons and to find a location near you. So the ratings were that was the lowest rated Super Bowl in ralian years in ten years. I was so wrong. Yeah. In ten years. It was man you're gonna you're gonna cut that town. I was so wrong. That's gonna be a drop drop that I'm so wrong. That is really said that out loud. Yeah. That is useful better than John. Ireland burp it on the air. Yeah. That's. The other day. I was all with you guys doing that call in like Daniel was there he made a little baby noise and neither and everybody kind of looked around. Like did that just thought that came from Momo? No, I was there with the baby in the room. And he made a little, you know. And I was like, oh, I better go in the other room. Yeah. I know some people thought that was you people on that some people on Twitter was you? Yeah. They absolutely did people like did Momo just I'm like no had she had a baby with her. I mean, I put my money on the baby it, I should never do interviews with him like that. Cocky in what I can pull off while he's with me like oh, have, you know, but one idea Riley curry with it. I do calls with him all the time. We'll be on the show like some agents like, and then all of a sudden he'll start crying. Oh, sorry. Hey, that's how he gives us to the biz. So here it is patriots thirteen three over the ranch last night wasn't the most exciting Super Bowl ever played by any measure, but the twenty nine thousand nine NFL championship game with sure one for the history books. Patriots third Tom Brady, blah, blah, blah, number six when it comes to ratings not gonna brag a shown on CBS for the first time since two thousand sixteen advocates about five million in ad Rams loss recorded a forty four point nine and a sixty eight share in meter markets. Now, let's put this into some perspective. Please fifty percent of America was watching. I'm sorry. Forty five percent of America's watching sixty eight percent of the people that were watching TV had the Super Bowl on. So the ratings are gigantic. But that was the lowest in a decade in the second lowest of the decade was. Last year. It's the patriots. You know, what it is? It is patriots. People are tired of seeing the same team over and over and over again, that's interesting to me. But part of it is also that the ratings curve on everything going to is going to slowly I mean, they've been like I helium balloon floating up for years and years. I think the helium s- finally starting to wear off in the balloon is falling like the rest of television television. It's just because everybody can stream everything impinge watch everything. I mean. Yeah, that's just how it is. With the with the patriots constantly being there. It puts this predictable feel on the season. You no matter if you're in the AFC, it doesn't matter. The patriots are going to go, right? That's you have something. Incredible. You we have Patrick Mahomes guy. How much would have Powell homes Super Bowl that was the real? That's what everyone really wants. That's called the screw defense Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. That's the man. Exactly. That's the EA sports. Just let it fly ball fifty two to fifty four. I coming up next. We will we're doing a couple of things at once today. We are lamenting the loss of the Super Bowl. Plus, we will get you the latest on the MacIntosh involving Anthony Davis the New Orleans pelicans in the Los Angeles Lakers. The NBA trade deadline is Thursday. But I want to remind you supercops Lakers fifth row. Friday's going on this week. You can win fifth row seats to Lakers pelicans that'll be Anthony Davis first game against his old team. February the twenty seventh and autograph basketball chairman's club passes and a super cuts gift card. Here's how you win. There will be one question from today's show and then one from each show the rest of the week for a five question pop quiz on Friday. So be listening to everything take notes if you need to super cuts fifth row Fridays brought to you by supercars at super guts. You can enjoy the signature hot towel finish free of charge with every haircut. I e SPN LA Mason, Ireland Momo and Osceola here, I'm back from Atlanta. Last night. It is true. I sat exactly one row in front of former presidential candidate. Mayor Eric Garcetti, and I was just like turned around. I'm like how to get better seats in the mayor, Steve I run my mouth he runs the city. That's nice. That'd be a nice little campaign. Loose yourself. A little bit puffy. Just at you run this town. Oh, you never to fill it out. Did you just do a fault? That I want a limited. I know. I heard exactly what you did there. Jay. And then he stopped playing the little baby chicks, exactly. The Berta pray that is not. Now, people are driving off the by the way, there was did you guys see the? The game of thrones. Awesome. Thrones. I get excited about I know it's not gonna fuse though. Did did the dragon merger? The Bud Light guy. It doesn't matter. All right. I mean. Drive out of drag. I've not seen it, Greg. You saw the the game of thrones out. It was great wasn't. Yeah. It was what happened. This doing this on purpose to me. What if there was a there was a Bud Light commercial looked like you were? There was a jousting. And the Bud Light, Bud Light stuff. Was it butter Miller that was doing that? They didn't say who it was. It was a Bud Light guy was like, oh, it's the Bud Light man is the Bud Light night. And he was and he was doing a joust, and he got knocked off of his horse. You didn't see who knocked them off the horse, and all of a sudden, it's the mountain that walks up and looks over the Bud Light guy and you see the mountains face, and it was pretty cool. Then all of a sudden you here and everyone's shocked all the Bud Light guys are all shocked, and then all of a sudden of giant dragon comes flying in and just burns everybody. And then it says game of thrones. Nice. Can't go wrong with game of thrones. And twenty nineteen not at all countdown clock. Should be started by now never seen one episode. What? Yeah. Now, I hard to home loans or the Rockies. Don't you wanna be part of this great cultural American history? I can't wait till it's done. I can't wait like you guys. It makes me to too anxious. So you're you're you're not you're not going to be able to avoid the conclusion. Oh, yeah. That's that's all right, brace everyone wrecking bad. There's going to be a like a forty eight hour waiting period to talk about these episodes. That's it. Yeah. You guys used to just body the show in spoilers where all the time. But no because we were all watching everybody who's watching. You gotta do you. Gotta do what everybody else is doing. A new slogan for apple do what everybody else is doing that kind of conforms tag. Vital four hashtag conform at had possess. If anything comes out of this sad show today. It's hashtag possessed zest that should be. Trending right now the possess yesterday. Now that was you. I, you know, every once in a while my grandfather used to pull on his trousers and talk about possess. Maybe that's why. All right. So I've been something else. The the verdict there, I think we're all kind of ambivalent about fast track today. You get some great words today. Well, no, let's we'll do. We'll do. We'll do like a homemade faster all Super Bowl theme questions. And it was actually not that we'll do over medial immediately faster. And they're actually got a question. I definitely got to. What do you mean? I got big words today vocab is killing it. All right, good. This is done. Okay. So we'll do a fasttrack, Greg. Do you want to come up with a question? Sure. I'll come up with. Okay. You come up with Marquette's from ourselves department. Join a come up with the fasttrack question. Why don't you do one? He's like can I sell sponsorship too? My fast track question is brought to you by Dr grant Stevens, marina, plastic surgery. Dell right. All right coming back next. We will touch again on the multiple rumors now about Anthony Davis and several conversations. According to Brad Turner between Magic Johnson and del Dempsey general manager of the pelicans today that's coming up next for you. Mason in Ireland ESPN LA coverage of Rams blue Monday. Brought to you by valvoline instant oil change, home of the fifteen minute oil change just drive up pull in and drive out in no time. Visit socaloilchange dot com to download up to fifteen dollars in coupons and to find a location near you. All right. Mark kates. Kindly brought in some cupcakes today. There was one New England cupcake that met with something less than. Kindness with great force. Yes with great. That would have been a fifteen yard flag. I did enjoy it. It was fifteen yards by the way one of the New England cupcakes. Didn't eat a Rams cupcake. The way that was going. I mean, there is one New England cupcake lift yes there was and you know, who got it. These hands. Nope. Greg Birdman not the one that I took. I didn't even really go iceberg. Hey, I know is that I want sixty thousand dollars mythical money. Wait, you bet against ramp. I did I put fifty K on the on the patriots and ten k on the under hit them, both sixty K. Roundabout? He's very proud. He hates the Rams. I don't hate the rims. Raider fan. I'm raider fan. Enjoy San Francisco next. You could probably argue so insecure you hate the Rams. How's that insecure? Well, because when I was the last time, you we're all your friends, but it is loyal. Relevant when they have thousands one. Uh-huh. So right back then. Yes. So. The way. I remember it that was the Super Bowl in San Diego. Right. Didn't they got knocked the hell out of you? I think the coach that was the Gruden. Yeah. Shawn's ring. Oh, that's right. He Shawn's rain. I guess discover something by Keyshawn, by the way, it's up open toe shoes on the cutout. Really? Yep. Look at those talents. Ridiculous. This. Wash clothes with them feet. Yeah. Nike's try. I can't even spend the whole show. Look at Travis just gritted on me. I know I don't know if so, you know, we're talking about there are these great big cutouts of all of Archer, then light larger than life Keyshawn. They've made them look a little thinner than he is. Photoshop, but for some reason, we got the morning show, but somebody has done away with wherever the Mason in Ireland cutouts are there there. Nice there in this room backwards. They just they. Wow. Back off the morning show, though. They take him out in the morning show. Roles smile in your cut out. Are you? I do smile. It's not a smile. That's like shows his teeth. He's threatening us. Right. I don't I don't. I'm not a big. It's a it's a terrible picture. I've asked for it to be retaken while move that guy. Yeah. That's a good looking man. Granted there's the Ireland and there. Cutoff is use a smile, and you're at a suit, you know, worst suit. They told me to wear a suit. I mean, it's just not you. It's not me. John Ireland looking like a three dollar Bill. Mike Keyshawn gets us. Roland looks like he looks like my real estate guy. It's my it's my broker. Let's talk about retirement, those notepads if people leave him to the front of your door with like the real the realtors that want to sell your house like it'd be writing on that note pad with his face on it the whole time. That's John j-o-h-n that picture would go on a bus bench. Yeah. He's got the prayer hands. The thing is thank you. Away with that one prayer hands thing people like he I love this. And there's there's Sodano put them together put them together. It's the firm of Ireland and Sodano. They will sell your John. No, it's got to be Jordan Georgian John's worts charts and sounds great. Let's start this band. John georgia. John, by the way, purgatory is coming up at three wall. It's funny that you use that the undertaker. Yeah. That is what happens when my dad, Texas my pal seriously. It's hilarious. I've got I've got my whole family wrestling themed when you really. I love what do I do? You have a sound for me. Oh, I'll I'll come up with one of my sister calls. The stone cold Steve Austin thing. You talk on the phone. I guess in my family only everybody else could tanks. See, I don't talk to anybody. I. Family calls me up thinking of one phone call day. I talked to Greg. I'm away in about ideas and stuff. I tell them what we're doing on the show and tell him what's important and how we're going to show today. He says says you're right Mason. Exactly what you should you need to grab that you need to pass the word. Those are the words I use that when you're. Just one forty one. Let me write down the time. So I can find that. Right. Mason right in that voice. You're absolutely right. Winning. I've got that out. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a lot of we got a lot of these in here. Find out if Momo's fast track she went to Cal. I went to count. Yup. So we'll find out exactly what we've got going in fast track coming up for you. It's kind of like I I mean, I seriously. Flew back at three thirty was the flight, and then some lame ass. Patriots fan barbed in the back of the plane. And it took an hour to clean it up. So we didn't leave until four thirty getting back here at five thirty and I grabbed a little bit more, sleet. So we don't desert like when everybody gets on the plane, and I'm not complaining hashtag blessed. Hashtag, blah. Yes. That's been impressed with your level of functionality so far. No. I mean, I'm right, right. I'm I'm running on fumes. But it's okay. Here's the thing. We still got the Lakers. I don't know when our next championship is coming actually that. That's a good question. When is our next championship coming in LA, who you feel on the dodgers you feel in of again three or the odds of going to the World Series three times a row at is filling Buffalo Bills last team that went to this World Series three times in a row would have been the Yankees in the early two thousands late nineties early two thousands the Lakers. Well, if we get Anthony Davis. Then I think you're talking about a potential championship team there. Yeah. The Rams are the third betting favorite in Vegas to win the Super Bowl next year. You know, who the is? Yeah. KC is the favourite. That Casey's the favorite New England. Of course is the is the second choice and the Rams are the third pick in Vegas to win the Super Bowl. So, but here's the thing about the Rams lot of these guys are not going to be around the back. John can sue Marcus Peterson a fifth fifth year option? Keep to leave mean. Andrew Hayworth, Andrew. Could retire. Yeah. S- thirty eight years old what about Fowler in? He gone. Dante Fowler probably gone living for today kind of year. We're all in this all this. This room. They let, you know, the only thing I worry about honestly, I feel like whatever they did this year to get all those guys they could probably replicate next year if they take the same kind of strategy, right? I worry about I wanna know if dog early is hurt. Not hurt. Then that was that was a scary thing. Yeah. That's ominous. If he's not hurt. To think that he was used. He's got to be hurt. If I don't get a press release within more relieved if he's hurt me about I'll get a Presley. So then forty eight hours saying that he's hurt and he's having surgery. I'm going to be upset. Do you get press releases of do? I get one I go to I gotta get on their list. Yeah. They send me press release with sound and stuff. Oh, I got to get on there. Artists. I talked to them off. The guy whose job and just to send this to you, really good faster questions. Okay. Good. We're going to do some we're going to do some fast track. Coming up next coverage of Rams blue Monday. Sponsored by valvoline instant oil change, home of the fifteen minute all change just drive up. Pull in drive out in no time. Visit so cow all change dot com to download up to fifteen bucks and coupons and to find a location near you, Mason and Ireland ESPN LA.

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Child Killer, Chapter 5 - North Fox Island

Shattered: White Boy Rick

37:26 min | 1 year ago

Child Killer, Chapter 5 - North Fox Island

"This episode contains strong, language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised. I know there's questions about whether the four children that were killed in Oakland County that we know of did some of that happened on north north FOX island, FOX island. The whole thing was a big trigger to make me talk north FOX island. It's. It's been it's been hidden buried Norfolk's island. I hear that name, and it gives me shivers. We're always gonna ask the question as okay, how much does this is folklore in how much of this is actual truth? This is Oakland County chief assistant prosecutor palm. Whether it's a lead or a rabbit hole right now. I don't know. Welcome back to shatter. December twenty eighth nineteen seventy five Detroit Free Press writer, Jim new Baca rights feature titled north FOX one man's rare dot on the universe. It's a three page spread on the headline page or two large photos. One is the island and spreads across the length of the paper in black and white and just below the photo man walking on a beach, the titular man, whose rare doubt on the universe is north lochs island. His name is Francis. Sheldon, although back, then he was better known as Frank at the time of the article Sheldon's forty seven years old and the photo of Sheldon, the paper he's walking towards the camera and the distance you can see waves breaking on the shoreline treeline ending at the sand in the distance Sheldon his unbuttoned jacket, lanell shirt underneath his hands are tucked into his pockets. He's wearing a hat, which looks to be covering a bald head. He's looking back at the camera through his thick rimmed glasses with a smile on his face. The caption below the photo of the island describes it. Like this says it spread in the midst of Lake Michigan like a giant Manta Ray sunning itself, which gives you a pretty good idea of the island shape. Just in case you decide to Google north FOX search will likely take you to its bigger brother sell FOX island north FOX's about four miles northeast. The article described Sheldon as a rich bachelor flies his own plane. Invest in the market that was an oil and studies geology. He came from a strong Detroit area. Family is great. Grandfather was governor. To be a Senator who served as the secretary of war for the McKinley administration. Keenan trait news writer and author of the snow killings. A book all about the Oakland County child killer. He's the reason we have the warm memorial and his father Francis. Sheldon's? Father was a real estate developer who built Rosedale park and Grosse Pointe farms. The Sheldon name men something. In fact, the Sheldon goes back nearly one hundred seventy years in the Detroit area is earliest ancestors made a fortune in dry goods and would marry with the elder family. Another well-to-do group. They were well known because Russell elder was an army hero and later found. Edison, electric light company. Frank's mother came from the Duffield's, which is another famous Detroit family, the Sheldon's would eventually invest their money into land and land development. The wealth would only grow. Then went to Cranbrook schools Cranbrook is one of metro-detroit premier learning facilities Sheldon thrived in school, and he would get his be from Yale. He served in the Michigan era guard, he backpacked skied. He would say this about himself quote, ever since I was a little boy, I've been an outdoors type of person and quote Sheldon bought north FOX island in nineteen sixty for twenty three dollars per acre which rounded out to about twenty thousand dollars. Have you always been a meticulous record keeper? Stack's home. Kathy Firestone is a historian of northern Michigan and an author. She knows more about north lochs island than most in nineteen Ninety-six. She published the FOX islands north and south. Not long ago, we met at the grand traverse lighthouse that the tip of the leaving open in slow to visualize where we're at. If you take your right hand side facing you give your fingers together your thumb out. You basically have a map of Michigan now at the very tip of your ring finger is Kathy. And I are sitting it's about twenty miles away from north box. Introduced dear to the island wanted to have a resort for people who had their own small aircraft. And he had an airfield built over there had a docking area built and constructed three or four buildings. I remember when they called the deer in there. From see can't remember, our they well, they hauled him into FOX island in went to salt, FOX island. This is Joan Celtic ten Broeke. She runs Cal excavating, which is a company located on the and open and Sula back in the sixties and seventies. Her father-in-law ran the company she remembers their crew doing quite a bit of work for Sheldon. He's very nice very pleasant. The Celtic excavating workers spent a lot of time out there Joan would be on a boat with Frank and others for hours at a time. They built a dock area and cabins on the island for Frank seem very nice, very nice person. Well-brought-up? I was impressed with them kind of been all. Well, you know, we'd love up here. We're not used to city people with money. Sheldon made a lot of friends in the area people from downstate flocked areas. Traverse city Charlevoix Petoskey Leland Sheldon fly himself from Detroit to Charlevoix and then from Charlevoix to north FOX island. But before he can do any of that you had to have the Cal excavating company. Create a landing strip seems to me it was like two or three summers by the fine. Fine. Got it done. Can you tell me what had to be done? Well, they had cut all the trees, and then stump it, all and then level. And that is not an easy process. No, no. And they all all liquid on barges. In pay for all this. Yes. For shell them. This changed everything instead of hours on a boat. He could just fly to the island and under twenty minutes, and he would take his friends out there to fish camp and hunt. Really what he bought it for an installed the land strip for was to run a child pornography operation there, and he had a private jet. He'd fly kids from Charlotte boy to the island and cata filming operation there and had. Horrible horrible things. I didn't really know about it at the time that it was happening Firestone. I was writing my book about adding north FOX to my original manuscript that was south fuck silent. And during that time Sheldon fences Sheldon was charged with crimes about involving child pornography. Ring. Appeared to have a squeaky clean reputation as a businessman in philanthropy st-, he boasted to the free press that he volunteered. His time to the big brother program where he meant toward kids family had a lumber business self-exiled in the nineteen fifties and sixties and Frank Sheldon came over there one day, and he was talking in the cookhouse about his mother brother Paul's mission and. My family members were quite impressed that he would want to do something like that for children. Brother. Polls was a summer camp for boys. Sheldon created it on the island. The police would later find out his generosity, masking his true intentions. Frank Sheldon would be proven to be a child pornographer and pedophile is island a venue for his crimes against children his involvement in these activities in the state of Michigan went on into nineteen Seventy-six which overlap with some of the child killings happening in Oakland County Sheldon's seem to be a big player in the seedy underworld. He had the money in maneuverability to be allusive and destructive Mark stebbins was sexually assaulted as was TIMMY king, although TIMMY was abducted after Sheldon's activities stopped in Michigan. But because of Sheldon stature and connections to the others, and the pedophilia community, it made sense to think that the people he knew or even he himself could be involved in these abductions, or at the very least you might have known. About them. We were the first to look at pornography and pornography rings in pedophilia as being a motive in this case, Wayne County detective Corey Williams. So we put quite a bit of time and effort into that where these kids films pictures taken where they passed around and. We don't know at this point. But we did put a lot of time and effort into that. You would do that meets sense that those people could contentiously tied into sure. Yeah. I mean, it's normal procedure for pedophile to wanna have trophies or photos or films of kids and that they could share with each other especially back in the seventies. Retired first tenant with Michigan state police Michael mois, there is a theory that the pedophile community may have. Someone in that committed these murders. We don't know because we don't know who was committing the murders. It's a logic. Logic jump from that community to what was taking place, especially with the males being sexually assaulted. But how does a wealthy businessman meet boys and befriend them enough to get alone time with them Sheldon had figured out a couple of ways to do this. Besides simply volunteering for the big brother program one. He started brother Paul's nature camp for boys, which operated on north FOX island and to made friends with people who had direct access to children. We just the information about him through the schoolteacher that was arrested by the detective sergeant say Claire he would fly. Friends and males that were interested in interacting to his property on north FOX island. Schoolteacher named Gerald Richards would be the go between for Francis, Sheldon. And a group of kids Gerald or Gerry was a gym teacher at Saint Jo's Catholic school import here in Michigan. That's in the east side of the state just across the Saint Clair river from Canada Richards, had a lot going on in his life. A husband a new father Jim teacher masseuse magician. In fact, the set of his Pinto's painted with the words, Jerry the magician on it. You also worked at an adult bookstore and actually ran for county. Commissioner once Mr. Rick. Yep. We was a little bit about him. Well, this is Mike Dunsmore grew up in port here on went to Saint Joe's Catholic school. Gerald Richards was gym teacher. I don't remember the name of the the gym instructor before him. But he was a really good guy. I mean, he was I remember he was real athletic muscular, and we love dodgeball. So that was his thing play, dodgeball stuff. But from what I understood is. He took a job as a. A baseball coach or something like that. And he left, and that's when Mr. Richards came in. It was really weird when he first got there. Everything started to change right away. We had we had all of a sudden start taking showers, and we'd never showered before ever and his excuse was you guys can't be will make class stink and whatever so they had to start bringing towels. We had showers, so but. And he was just. As far as a gym teacher. He just seemed off. He was real ranking really the guy didn't look like he could have fought his way out of a wet paper bag. It was is a kid. You don't go. Well, what the heck is this guy doing as Jim teaches at? Well. This is our new guy you need to respect that. And it is what it is. But he just wasn't. He was it was night and day compared to the other gyms destructive. Were you a front of the class kid or back of the class kid absolutely the front? This is Bill Johnson. Ye and Mike Dunsmore were classmates and friends at Saint Jo's. I mean, we always ate our lunch in that class and the classroom. The none would go up to the kind which is just a Jason to the school and the other side of the parking lot. And after lunch I would get up, and I would do my comedy routine every day until I got caught and then that stopped. I was a front of the front of the classroom in the class in the back of the bus kind of guy, you know, always a character. But you know, when your initial impression though before you had the chance to look back, minus of Richards. Regular guy. He intrigued me with magic. He was a magician if we're wear so. Komo show magic trick. So that was, you know, ten eleven years old, whatever that was really cool. So I thought that was cool. So I think that was his his way of gaining trust from me and some of the other boys the kids found out quickly that things were going to be different from now on. Yeah. He would do the padding on the ass the gym teacher ever had that would be in the shower in the locker room, we were taking showers like Mike wasn't on the basketball team. So he wouldn't even come in during the basketball showers. And it just thought it was, but at eleven years old to Catholic school, you felt protected and and I did, and I guess I sort of dismissed it as oh, I guess, it's the weight. That's just the way it is not knowing that, you know, Camille show, this magic trick kind of thing, you know, K distrust, and I and I liked him. Yeah. Mr. Richards knew how to connect with the students these kids didn't have a reason not to trust him. He was never really aggressive in any way. You know, you need. Buckled down. And he was just he was Passover. I guess would be the word. Just pretty much anything. You did was. Okay. But you just. Followed the third fig. During the end of the school year Richards, went to a handful of students told them they had done so well in his class, they were gonna get a trip to north FOX island. From what I understood he went to. Couple of the other boys and myself parents and said these guys did an exceptional job this year in gym class and has a reward we'd like to take them up to the island. I remember. It was it was brought to my tens by by Jerry Richards. I. And head papers. The permission slips and whatever. And I remember my mom had come to the school. She met him. No big deal. He talked about Mr. Sheldon wealthy, man. Anybody from that area? New you know, he was very prominent wealthy come from wealthy families. So on. Everything just seemed legit. But that's what it basically it was it was because we we did such an excellent job when we were so. Well, mannered that that was kind of a reward for us to go up to the island. But I know we went to Sinclar county airport all the family showed up parents and the kids. They got there and met ankle Frank. That's offering Sheldon was introduced to the kids and families uncle Frank would also be there pilot, lying the kids and Mr. Richards altogether on his personal plane. I remember playing with so excited amid Mike and his two other kids. I think one was a upgrade above us. And one was a great below us. If I remember correctly family showed up the parents and the kids we also got on the plane, and we would. I remember just taken off like tired. The boys were headed on an island getaway haunt them for the rest of their lives under it back. It was exciting. I do remember. It was exciting. We're like we get you know, out of all the kids in the class. We go do this really cool trip. I've never had that feeling before you know, it was it was really cool. And I remember learning I remember getting our stuff getting our cabin. And you know within an hour. We were naked on a beach. That's how it was. If you live on nylon. This is how they do it. So. So. Okay. Again, eleven years old. I assume protect this my gym teacher right there. I remember seeing you know, when I was talking to Mike we've talked several times on the phone. We hashing things helping each other remember things in here members as well as I do seem cameras. You know, in a beach to us, you know, we're in the Bahamas, and I remember seeing cameras, but me and the other voice all naked. That's the way you did. We did if you want to be on have to make it. So we were all naked whose words are those who say that to you, Jerry Richards. I remember meeting Sheldon. Him. He said the same thing to this is how things are, you know, this is my on this island, baba and kids are lucky and fortunate to be here, you know. So basically just adhere to these rules. And this is how we'd we are here. And they were naked as well. Island was beautiful. It really it was a really cool place. And we go down the water was like it almost looked like the ocean. But it was freezing. And guys school skinny dip in and to me. It was weird because it's supposed to be dark when you go skinny dipping, you know, others girls around, but he's going to see here watching. So Mr Richard takes his clothes off jumps into wars fans. Come on you guys. It's all right, and whatever. Well, okay. We'll take swim stuff off whatever we jumping running around naked. Well, hindsight now looking pretty wrong. I mean, really off key to be doing anything like that. But they made it. So that it was not he because Frank wasn't there. I don't know if he was film or what he was doing. But Mr Richard made it as often worry about it. Nobody's going to know. Nobody's going to see. It's. Okay. Come. I look I'm doing it. So let's do it. So that's what we did. Come on guys, very me in the sand. So burying them in the sand. You know? And everybody's naked running around. But we're, but it's okay. 'cause there's no girls around. That's the way the way they presented during is. There's nobody will see. So once again they played on trust. Things like that several times. And I guess later on it was figured out way for us to touch him in verbally like that's bury because he's naked. And we're going to have to touch him, you know, somewhere. He did games. Like that quite often. You know? And if you started feeling a little and easy. I remember couple times feel uneasy. Do a magic trick. Oh, yeah. It was cool. There were six people on the island Bill and Mike, of course, rank Sheldon, Gerald Richards. And there were also two other boys at that time on the island the reform cabins to closer to the landing strip on the north end of the island and the other two down along pathway, which was near the southern part of the island. One of the cabins was known as the main cabin. This was the typical gathering place a place where they would come to eat also where Frank Sheldon slept on this particular trip. He had one of the unnamed boys stay with him in his room the next cabin over a smaller two bedroom. Building were jailed Richards and the other unnamed boy stayed Bill and Mike. We're lucky in the sense that they had their own cabin. No adults. I I had where the where nobody was watching me. I was gone. So. When they told me he can't be taken off. It was almost like. Going somewhere. And you're having a good like, we're just say your you go to grandma's house. And all the grandkids are there, and you're playing and you're doing everything to have good time because somebody and it's like, you kids quit running go sit down over there for a little bit that feeling that that's kind of what it was like when I when I was told that I can't. Don't just be going out looking for stuff. Like, they gotta keep an eye on you all the time. So it kind of. Kind of put some of the fire out, you know, just kind of still go on. But it was. It felt like it was rude. You know, we we want to before it was you guys have a great time. And then it was like, well, we need to keep an eye on you. And now, it's almost you're being watched all the time. I didn't enjoy that. You're noticing cameras like kind of all over the place. All right. Can you just maybe if you remember any details about where you saw them like the first time, I know some we we we were on the beach within the first hour landing with no clothes on. And I noticed the beaches here at C, you know. You know in the wooded area the beach. Edge of the beach. We had cameras by our cabin. Or are you questioning this at all? Or is this kind of like this weird thing? Whatever just doing what we're doing. That's basically this. I think I may have questioned. Mr. Sheldon about it jokingly saying, you know, we're celebrities or something like that. Yeah. You are the cameras as how we do things here or something like that. So I just kind of dismissed it as being normal. What was your initial your first impression of French Sheldon? Mr. ridge is told us about him being a millionaire when you're leading years old, the seventy million is unheard number. You know? I was I guess I was impressed with before. I met him. Here's a rich man who owns an island in an airplane. So I guess respect. I. There was a stomp, and it was probably about the size around this chair maybe four or five law, and I remember there was snakes and the end of it. So I rolled the thing I rolled it will the bottom ripped off. And there was literally thousands of snakes and they're. Like, just all garter, snakes was ring necks, naked and milk snakes. And it was just I never I was it was a greatest thing ever. I go back and I get Bill. I said, you gotta see these things. I don't really care for science. We'll come on. This is really I just I wanted to show something it's almost like, you ain't gonna believe this unless you see it so him, and I we take and go and the snakes are still there. And he's like you are nuts. I can't believe you're playing with these cameras by the trail that we've talked to Mike, and I would go, you know, catch snakes and salamanders just do it do and there's cameras, you know, a lot in place really from the time. We walked there, check them out. And then walked back. It was photon our own when we got back. We couldn't find it. Usually there was somebody right around the main cabin. And there was nobody there. So. We flew down to the beach brand down. We actually ran because it was kind of like text going on. So we ran down to the beach. There's nobody there ran back up went to each cabin. Nobody there what the heck. They left us. That's the first thing we thought so we take run down to the airstrip and the planes. Okay. Well, what the heck? So we go back and the Jeep was gone. So they must have just took a ride, and they're all going around and whatever. So I want to say it was probably a couple hours. And then then they came back and that was. They were happy with the. But the the two boys were different. They were quiet. They didn't talk anymore. We have we would have cookouts and stuff we cook. Hotdogs and have the marshmallows and stuff and everybody was talking. But those kids never they didn't really talk at all anymore. Didn't say anything, and it was kind of odd. You know, that was just. As a kid though, you're not going. She's I wonder what is going on whether they just seem a lot quieter. You know, but I never really thought about anything just. Just maybe not feeling good or whatever. So I don't know if it's the exact same time. But I remember here in one of the kids screaming crying. Like, somebody was hurting him. And he was screaming yelling stop in. We didn't know what was going on. And we knew it was coming from a lot door. But we heard the kid crying. I was a kid that was a great above us. Heard him screaming at cryan to stop. I remember that very vividly the one older kid. He he was kind of quiet to begin with. It's tough guy. You know, at least I thought. But then after that he. He didn't talk. He didn't do anything. More like sit at the beach by himself down by the water. Of course, Richards right there comforting putting his arm around him, you know, that kind of stuff. It might. I think Mike was the lucky one. Just as natural curiosity to run and be a boy and look around, you know, kept him safe. I'm glad for him. I wasn't as fortunate in both those kids never came back to our school after that summer. Never saw him again. I cannot speak for any of those guys that myself myself personally, they didn't touch me. But Bill Johnson was not as lucky they focused on me a lot. I noticed. Long blond hair blue eyed eleven year old. You know? The very first day. We were there. And I had a somber, Jerry Richards. Rub lotion. Everywhere. Again, I thought it was normal that was comfortable. But he just relaxed me. I don't remember what he said. This relax or something. Like that. Right rep lotion. Yeah. That was the first day. Now's the first day touch your genitals. I remember at the stake in just spoke my wife about this not long ago. I remember him taking lotion and put it on his hand here and just be laying on my stomach and just going between my. Cheeks fan like that. And I felt very uncomfortable. But he assured me everything was okay. And this is supposed to do again. I trust them. Turn over do the same thing because you have to protect that. So every day he did that to me. I'm not frayed to tell the story now. He knows grown, man. You know, you've got that little boy inside you that doesn't want to tell anybody. A little boy died on time ago. So it didn't sink in as while these kids went through an awful hell, and you know. Until I started getting older, and I was thinking. Wow. You know? They used are innocent that SOX. It really does. Are you asking like, Mike or any other boys? Really what the hell stone? I don't remember speaking to anyone about it. If I said anything it would have been to Mike because we were buddies. But. I may have kept that to myself. I don't recall. Maybe I I knew that. I shouldn't say anything. I do remember him telling us that anything that you see here. You can't tell anybody because we'll get in trouble for that, Jerry. Yes. Jerry richards. So. I didn't say anything do you? Remember feeling? Shame or anything. Absolutely explain like, I it was wrong. It's hard to it's hard to scribe. I felt shameful. I knew it was wrong. Something I shouldn't have done. I'm thinking am. I love mine. I never had nothing to say confession because we should go confession. Once a week. I never had anything to say because I did anything wrong. This is definitely wrong. So I'm definitely going to have to tell the priest this. So I felt bad. Should I say it in the thinking, you know, you have to confess Cincinnati to be forgiven? This is how we were taught. So I think my biggest worry was if I should tell tell my mom, I should keep to myself. He said, I'm going to get trouble. But am I getting trouble? I tell it to the priest. You know, so a lot of mixed emotions. Is it really messed up time? I guess. Something horrific happened to those two kids. You're pretty you feel at least one of them. Yeah. Absolutely. We knew what happened. I mean, we talked about it after you know, we know exactly what was happening to him. Was it was being ripe? If I was eleven he was twelve or thirteen maybe. Dishonest. He's being murdered. You know? In that scream haunted me forever. You know, I guess the mine has a way of protecting you over time. Then it's done that just recently. All of this stuff is come back to the surface. And I love with my wife agreed that it's good that I talk about it in let the world know piece of shit. This guy was. Sorry. It's fun. This guy being Jerry. Yeah. Like, I said I looking for him after. And I wouldn't be sitting here in this interview would be imprisoned. We'd be interviewing me in prison because I absolutely would kill them. There's no doubt my mind. Could never find him. I haven thought higher magician. And then have him show up. And then I was going to kill them. Luckily for him, and I've found and I never knew where he was. But I always hope wherever it was. He was in a lot of pain. You know, maybe being Karsh rated and having somebody do that to him. I heard he died sometime the nineties. The words buried probably best that I don't. Yeah. He's a monster. Trust. Richardson. Frank Sheldon had done a reparable damage to the voice Bill. Mike in the other two are subjected to horrible acts, and they weren't the only ones one of the boys. Tell his mother than that mother told the police everything would change. And we had a federal huge. It a flight warrant Santon. That's the last. I heard from him. He went to the Netherlands, and that's proven. Frank Sheldon was on the run as a rat brings down child porn operations from north lochs island to New Orleans back in Oakland County. A community was bracing itself. Fear was an all time high all eyes were on the task force with hopes that they could make the murders. Stop that more on the next shattered. A very big. Thank you to Michael Dunsmore and Bill Johnson who courageously shared their stories. I also want to thank Mike Moi's. Marnie Keenan, Corey Williams, Kathy Firestone. Joan Celtic ten rock and Paul Walton. We also want the grand traverse lighthouse crew to know their appreciate it for putting up with me. If you have any information that could help investigators please call the tip line at eight three three seven eight four nine four to five. 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Veteran Education Success

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52:53 min | 1 year ago

Veteran Education Success

"It has been said that we are but one generation away from forgetting our history. Welcome to American heroes network where we serve our American tradition with Gary rate in our program, you'll hear firsthand the personal accounts of heroes. Unselfish actions have contributed to the traditions and values that represent the soul of America. You'll also hear from our partners and affiliations presenting news, events and ways that our veterans and their families can rebuild their lives. Now here is dairy rate. Today is December eighteenth two thousand eighteen good morning and welcome to the American heroes network radio. Johnny may today is tenant Colonel Bill. Forbes US army retired former deputy deputy secretary for Maryland department of veterans affairs. Also, passed department commander for the DAV state of Maryland. Good morning, sir. Good morning, Gary. And as always it's great to be with you. All right. Thank Bill, and we always Bill always comes up with some news articles. And right now, we're looking at two of them here that one these guys are rolling thunder are all in their seventies. What's going on with them? They sort of getting little bummed out. Gary, you know, these guys have been a success for more than thirty years rolling fund to arriving on the National Mall in Washington DC doing the Memorial Day celebration, and Gary what has happened is that you know, they've grown in such large numbers now that just the cost of being able to support this event is kinda drive in them. You know back into the closet. Coming the Morial day. They're expecting one million riders the shop on the National Mall. Can you imagine one million riders, and you know, for the past thirty years it's been this event that is drawn tension to military members who are still missing an action. But as the growth is come about for security reasons and cleaning up after the after the event, it's it's skyrocketed in cost some two hundred thousand dollars now in expense that the group just can't continue to afford. So the the the exit from this Gary is that that they will still be present. But in smaller numbers, and the organization is encouraging the nine. Plus chapters that they have around the country to do things on a small scale. Wow. That's unbelievable. I hate to be behind that line of the million writers. Oh, man. You know, it it it takes about three different staging areas in the local area s they, you know, get ready to to make that ride down on the National Mall. And one of the the three locations is the Pentagon parking lot just across the river in Virginia. Unbelievable. But you know, it was it was something else when it was going on. And maybe they can continue a portion of it later on. Now, the other article you had Bill is VA had a new pilot program with mental health support to help bring down the number of suicides. Can you give us a little more detail on that? Well, absolutely. This is a joint effort Gerry with the with the mental health administration portions the and the oh the. You know, Gary it's been awesome here in American heroes network that we don't wait until September for suicide awareness prevention. We think suicide prevention ran this is something that should be then each day everyday. What's happening now is in July this coming year two thousand nineteen they're going to bring back some units to spend about a week at four Fort Bragg, North Carolina to to look at these individuals who both active duty comes resorted to veteran status, and that kind of just study some of the programs that in in in in crews stem to that they need to help with this situation. The one unit in particular. It's going to be back as the Bravo company of the five parachute infantry, regiment and eighty second everyone division, and again, it's also to pay some strong attention to those men and women who've been released from active duty with less on the less than honorable conditions and take a look at this situation and to monitor and hopefully we can reduce this suicide of twenty two day or whatever that number is, and Gary is you might recall just this morning you and I talked about. Incredible them in Florida at the bay pines the hospital in his food Rhys military uniform Colonel sitting on his medical records and took his own life in the parking lot. Yeah. Got the find ways to to change the situation around. Unbelievable. Don't wanna hear stories like that. Bill launch you? Go ahead and introduce our guest today will Gary it's an honor to introduce Mike Saunders. Mike saunas as the director of military and consumer policy. Mike leads veteran education successes consumer protection policy work, including servicemembers protection under the military lending act and servicemembers civil relief act now my join the ES is legal advocacy director in July this she hit two thousand eighteen bringing a professional experience as a long time policy advocate for veterans at the retired enlisted association as deputy legislative director for eight years at the. Retired and listed association. Mike represented the interests of in the list of personnel before congress on tax issues, consumer issues and veterans benefits as well. As various other military personnel veterans issues. Mike is a third generation member of the army Mike served in the army from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand one in Bravo company. I of the sixty six sports infantry division out of Fort Hood, Texas, the oldest tank regiment in the arm. Mike has agrees in history and economics from William in Maryland, Mary college in Virginia and a law degree from the university of Richmond. Mike saen? This welcome to the American heroes network. Might him for having no problem. It was great to have you on board right now. And I tell you what why don't we go ahead and have a break. And then we come back in really get into this spend a little bit more time. Otherwise, we're gonna you know mess up the day. You're listening to the American heroes network power wash inheritor on the variety channel. And we'll be right back. Find out what's happening on the voice America talk radio network by keeping up with us on Twitter. You can find us at voices Marica T R N. 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The number one internet talk station, where your opinion counts voice, America dot com. You are tuned into American heroes network. If you wanna find out more about us or to contact us with questions or comments about the show, please send an Email to American heroes network at g mail dot com. That's American heroes network at g mail dot com. Now back to our program. Welcome back, where your guest Mike with veteran education success now, Mike, you know, why don't you give us a shore rundown on what's going on with Bill and that sedulously education programs for veterans service members, and how is veterans education success organization helping. So. A very complicated question. I'm sorry. Keep it brief the last year congress passed what's called the forever TI, though, which has a bunch of different components to it. But the the highlights were that it got rid of the fifteen year delimiting aid for using GI though. So that made it for forever benefit forever, buddy. And it didn't it did about twenty different things. But in particular, it changed the calculation for basic allowance for housing and in doing so there were problems with the as IT system, and we basically had to hold VA's feet to the fire. Make sure that they take care of everybody is using the benefit in in appropriate manner instead of ignoring some of the underpayment that their early making. So we're all their feet to the fire making sure that they're taking care of everybody. Bell? Well, Mike veteran says occasions successes mission is to protect and defend the integrity and promises of GI Bill of federal education program for vets and servicemembers. Give listening audience some services specific services that are provided by VS. Well, it basically we we've gotten a lot of different complaints of questions from people regarding their education benefits from getting hit with clawback notices from the department of veterans affairs, saying that the Vietnam back and audited courses they took in decided they weren't eligible with help them through that situation. We have helped people process as I mentioned there be a h claims. So that don't get a victim. And we help people who have been taken advantage of by unscrupulous schools who were maybe made promises of the front at that turn out to be true either as they were going through school, or after they graduated found out that they were misled one way or another. It's a sitting cruising we common problem that we're we're having to deal with so. Basically, the whole range of education issues that veterans can face. Yeah. You know, Mike is we spoke early. I always believed that the the greatest sport in the veterans community is a lack of information. And those things we don't know we don't know, and they can seem to be in our way, as we progress along the create problems now noticing from you very comprehensive website that there was a Senate committee investigation. Finding out loopholes that will call the ninety slash ten that committee. I think is cheer by Senator Johnny Isakson from Georgia. Give us a our listening audience of what was the findings on on the part of that by the committee? Well. The committee made a lot of different findings. But in particular, they found that the the nineteen rule incentivize certain schools to target veterans because of the nature of their their education benefit. So for a little bit of background the ninety central furs to ninety percent federal funding ten percent private funding that is designed to create what's called a market test, which make sure the schools are able to get at least ten percent of their funding from the private market, unfortunately. Because of the loophole of veterans benefits all kinds of GI Bill post nine eleven muck Gumri and DOD tuition assistance benefits do not count as federal funding. So certain schools will target veterans and active duty service to get arou-. Thank you ten Royal. Because for every veteran or service member that they signed up they can bend nine more students who are completely on federal loan money. So it creates out of a perverse incentive system for them to target veterans. And we found that a lot of schools that do this to get around the ninety ten rule are not exactly providing a good return on investment. Put it that way. So actually that should be something number one that taxpayers should be concerned about that that that that that situation. What what are your thoughts about that this again with information? I mean being out there too. Because ordinarily, we don't have these kinds of things that veterans have to deal with as the return from home and community after combat in the battlefield, and they're trying to create a new direction for the lives. And then there's you know, there's another mountain there the climb that can create tremendous damage for them. Absolutely. It's a real it's a real month field. Then you know, it's funny that you brought up that Senate reports. So at the. They had a press release for and at the press release. They had a veteran who was harmed by one of these schools, and at I was at I was at this twenty twelve twenty thirteen and. Of looking at this veteran could've scored a new this guy. And I did he was sergeant Elliott. He was Charlie coping for for one six six are. And we we did serve together. It was, you know, at it was nice to see sorry Nellie in Washington DC, but it was horrible to see those circumstances voices. GI Bill on education was not gonna help him at all. And you know, the really is making effort to go out in every single avenue that is available to reach people to try to tell them. You know, you gotta make a good decision on the front end. Otherwise, you're really gonna regret it on the back end. I've been at this job since July. I have seen talked to a lot of people who have made those decisions they're it. It's. The the words that are coming out of the bounds are very very distressing to me, they feel like fin years feel like that. They. It's just not something that you wanna hear out of people who raise the right hand to protect defend this country. It's really a thrill the problem. So we're trying to attack it on the front giving people information that they need to make good decisions. Well, you know, Mike one one of the scams that have heard of in. You've probably also that that seems to really members of our community is it in. And and I don't know if this is strictly pertaining to online education programs, but you know, where they will in make promises up front that the the veteran will, you know, get this that terms of licensing and certification, and it doesn't all waste panned out the other situation that I've commonly heard of whereby. When they assigning up for the program. They talk about the either to semester setup at the school or the court system, but there's instead of two semesters that three semesters in additional quarter in the using up their their their their funding support probably a year ahead of when they should be get into degree. How common is it that you find those kinds of circumstances that you have to deal with. That's a good question. I don't in an overall picture. I probably can't answer that question. It is. It goes happen though. We've seen situations that you've described in addition, you know. You know, unfortunately, because of what I described ninety ten rule the of is to simply get veterans in the door. Once they get them in the door. They'll make all kinds of promises the problems in the world. They get them in the door. They get the funding. And then the incentive to actually make sure that they get a decent education can get a job of back end it disappears. So you're right. The a lot of misleading promises are made told that their education benefits will cover that their school completely. They come to find out a year year and a half before they graduate that. Oh, you need to take out loans in some situations. They're told to sign documents up front that are actually master promissory notes loans are taken out that they're not aware of the very common situation that we've run into. You know and misleading job prospects on the back end what you described signing people up for. Courses and degrees that they're not. They're not eligible to have the job after they graduate. You know, they need to need to be there needs to be stricter oversight to make sure that these practices aren't taking place. And unfortunately, the department of veterans affairs, the veterans benefits administration is falling down on the job right now. So. Inspector general report came out two weeks ago three weeks ago that look at various u the state approving agencies the veterans benefits administration have kind of dole jurisdiction to decide whether or not schools eligible for GI Bill fund, and the inspector general reports that that unless drastic changes are made and over the next five years about two two point two to two point five billion dollars going to go to school. Are not providing a adequate return on tax payer money. It's a real issue. Well, you know, Mike is I can recall in my service at the department of fairness in the state of Maryland. You know, we went through an arduous program of making sure all of the school certifying offices, primarily at the public colleges in in in in universities that they make sure that these kinds of things that they were were will will school in the area. And then they they were there to be the counselors to make sure that these kinds of situation that did not occur. So, and I guess what I'm hearing from you is that the VA really is not following up with some of these schools where we've got these certified by the to actually observe situations. Like this from not occurring. It's a current anyhow with that be the case that the VA is not following up with the certain school certification offices. Yeah. It's our interested is not using the stories that they currently have and in a lot of different areas. So that's part of the is. Mission going forward is to get the VA to get a little bit more proactive on these issues. All right. And it sounds like they felt like they stand as well. The the edgy report caught a lot of people's attention. All right. We're gonna go ahead and take a break. You're listening to the American heroes network are by voice America and the brightest channel, and we'll be right back. Thank you seen everything there is to see an online television. Let us surprise. Visit voice America dot TV today for sports health business and more on demand. Twenty four seven providing a unique blend of information. And and the cassisi we are helping our American heroes and their families to heal successfully transition into civilian life into thrive in their communities. This generation will not be forgotten. Today's military are our sons and daughters. Listen live to the American heroes network. The worldwide voice for our military families and veterans every Tuesday at eleven AM eastern time. Eight AM Pacific time all shows are archived un-american heroes network dot com and syndicated on items. Those corporations or organizations who wish to support our veterans sponsoring and promotion on the American heroes network has never been easier or smarter as the only network focus, specifically reach the military and veteran population globally for more information, Email us at sponsor info at American heroes network dot com. Streaming live the leader in internet. Talk radio voice, America dot com. You are tuned into American heroes network. If you wanna find out more about us or to contact us with questions or comments about the show, please send an Email to American heroes network at g mail dot com. That's American heroes network at g mail dot com. Now back to our program. Bovine back with her with Mike from veterans education success organization, and Mike if I could share something with you, we the last time we interviewed the veterans education success organization, which was not too long ago. I had some one of their listeners call me and asked me about a situation that he was going to school, and he was toll at the next step would be throwing out getting a loan for a hundred thousand dollars to complete his commercial training with an airlines, but the airlines already told him that he was too old to become a pilot which is kind of funding, but how can how can somebody handle a situation like that? What should they do when they run across? Well. That's a tough one. I if you Vokhan professionals in in the industry as the answers, you're you're too old to. Work. I don't see a way around it to be perfectly honest. It sounds like people are willing to take your money that they don't care. What happens? Do you on the back end? It wasn't to professionals in the field. And when wouldn't you told that very real answer there is an age limit? For instance, joining the military is another one, you know. That's the answer. And all the guy was only thirty two years old. And he was told by the airlines because he was training to be a pilot that thirty two was too old to work start working for an airlines. And of course, he could keep trying and take out one hundred thousand dollar loan that. There's years ago play school trading or easily. There's still hashing out. Exactly what that benefit is gonna look like is my understanding. So yeah, that's a tricky situation. That's unbelievable and Bill. Well, Mike, you mentioning. An an area of I think of interest for listening audience is the loan forgiveness program. Give us give us some insights about that. So. Right. I just wanted to spread awareness about an issue that has been percolating a little bit recently back in December of twenty sixteen. The depart vegetation announced that if he were totally permanently disabled, they would forgive your student loans. So they announced the matching program with the department of the fares. They looked for veterans who had stugotzs court either. One hundred percent have a one hundred percent disability rating for the or are individually unemployable so under rules. That's how you qualify for this program. So it turns out that there about forty two thousand veterans who have student loans who are eligible for this program is sent out letters in April that apart of education sent out letters only about eight thousand veterans of apply. For this. And of the forty thousand eligible about twenty five thousand of them are currently into fault on their student loans, which can have huge negative repercussions for your life credit report. You know, your your power loan rates are higher. Your phone bills hired it's harder to rent apartment. It's almost impossible to buy a house, it it can have a serious negative effect on your life. So the tax Bill that passed at the end of last year made the forgiveness of student loans a non taxable event at the federal level. And it's artist ending that about forty states already follow the federal raw so eighty percent of veterans would not have any tax liability whatsoever. But again, only one out of five even applied for it. So I'll just try to get the word out to people. To as many people. Possibly know somebody who falls into this situation that if you have student loans at your hundred percent avoid or your into unemployable. The. Should check out this program. The website is disability discharge dot com. It's managed by the department of education and bell that which is the loan servicer. So. In go to this website, or you can call know that seven days a week at one eight eight three oh three seven eight one eight from eight to eight PM eastern time. For you can Email. Disability information at Nell net dot net's, an ET to Freddie questions to get the process started. And. Go ahead. No, mike. I was going to say that that that's so important in Gary. I I think that the, you know, hearing this for my. We can get something from him to you know, place on the website is a an attention remind the for our veterans in the community because this is so important, you know, Mike, this gets back to some of the areas that it seems like there's a three as it runs through here. That many of our men and women who serve when they come back and attempt to get, you know, healthcare from the from the VA, and they go into a clinic or a hospital in the they they get, you know, turned off because they haven't a enrolled in the program, you know, to get healthcare you have to enroll either in-person Avak Linic or at a hospital or you go online and. Do that. And they missed that. And we know with those percentages that you just mentioned in the biggers that the two hundred I think it's a twenty million veterans that that that the in the the population around the country only about eight point five million or enroll in in the system. So you know that that's tremendous shortfall. And, you know, something just recently with retirees the who were in the delta dental program were were informed that after this year. Delta dental will not be providing those services that you've got to go to the federal program and as a December fourth of the eight hundred thousand retirees only four hundred thousand. And re Ed responded. So here again is that information gap is so important and getting the word out to men and women who serve so they don't get caught up in situations such as this really glad you mentioned that that the. They said that program. Yeah. That was a big focus of retirement association. It's getting that information ends of of everybody fill all the retirees you note you had to sign up for that. And you know, in in in something else that I just I just picked this up just before the the program today, you mentioned about the the unemployable of the individual unemploy ability. You know, it's seems that that's raising its ugly head again. Now, it was back doing when the secretary Shokhin was the the sector of veterans affairs now of eliminating that they're talking about trying to eliminate I you after you reach the age of sixty seven when you become eligible for social security and to to take that away in this could on an average. I think it was something like almost fourteen hundred dollars a month that would be eliminated from the. Benefits in. That's just unconscionable about that. Then the information in the so import. I mean, those folks if you're I use, you know, by definition, you're not working. So you you're working you're not paying into social security. So what what does what does it becoming social security eligible do for you? Where do you? That's a good point. That's a good point. But you see most of us in the veteran community don't understand that. And I think that this is a way that the VA is trying to reduce pain these benefits. But my gosh, this makes no sense at all. And you take a veteran who've maybe been receiving those benefits for ten fifteen twenty years talking about taking that away. We'll you creating a tremendous problem for them in and that they they living actually placing them in poverty. Right. The only way to do that is to somehow supplemental social security losses. You can't do it for people who are currently over the age of sixty seven that's conscionable. Yeah. Yeah. My one other thing I saw interests from the website is encouraging Wissel blowers to come forward with confidential confidentiality and anonymity to provide information. They help those individuals based upon their bad experiences with this education program talk a little bit about how one can participate in that. Yeah. Well, they they can reach out to the the Email on our website. It's I don't have it in front of me. I think help at veterans education success. Yeah. That's it. I'm seeing at is it, okay? A lot of. But yeah, we we work with whistle blowers. Who are watching these pieces happened there? Sometimes they're trained that way. They realize that what they're doing is incorrect to making promises to people to simply get them in the door to suck their benefits. And then they kick them out, and they're not provided with the tools to participate in the modern economy. So. These people we've worked with a good number of years come to us. It's almost what's going on. And we'll we'll connect them with long for help to build investigations. That's hopefully, take out some of these bad actors. I don't have been further right now. But it had some really good quotes. The testimony that gave last week to the ear general simply about so is whistle blowers. And you know, they're human beings. They they know what's going on these people know right from all they all feel good when they're doing. What's once you find out that you're being told to make promises to people that turn out to not be true on the back end, particularly in regards to what kind of salary you can spec after graduating. I mean, that's why people go to school they go. They go to school to get trade. To make themselves more marketable. And if that's not happening. Well, you know. We think problems that everybody's creating a problem, Mike, and it's going to continue with those men and women who are out to get problems with post traumatic stress and TB and all the other thing to to really exacerbate those kinds of conditions, and you know, we we've gotta try to tack that is best as possible. So so Mike one of some of the horseshoe. Mary commonsense kinds of steps that are veterans can take and consider before making a decision to enroll in an educational program. So I think probably the number one thing I would tell people to do is pay attention during transition systems when when you're going through your transitions program, they have an education track pay attention to that. So every year they update transition systems. They're they're modifying the program every single year actually sat through June, and I can tell you a heck of a lot better than the one. I went through. They do a good job explaining the difference between for instance, regional credit Asian and national Kurdish in which a little bit counter intuitive. You would think nationals better it's not regional actually better schools that are regionally accredited tend to be more competitive at their credits, actually, transferred other schools. That's a part of the problem with a lot of these schools. Aren't you? Go. To a lower quality school. And you figure out, you know, this isn't for me about learning anything education horrible. You know, teachers are always leaving every couple of weeks. There's hill. Nobody ever stays in the front office. What you get into these places? You can identify them pretty quickly the complaints start to sell the same. What's your in the door, and you try to transfer you figure out no other schools? Gotta take no good school is gonna take these credits. So you almost trapped in to going to another low quality school, though, the only ones that accept those types of credits. So it really is important to know before you go and to that end if you get out, and you're still have concerns or questions the GI Bill comparison, tools, the on the VA's website, you Google it pops right up and. It's provides a lot of fairly good information. We're working on graduation rates. Tariff was some some discrepancies there. Some not all of the data was being reported. But it it gives a pretty decent idea of at least, what kinds of plants are being made about schools, and you know, what what you can expect that graduate from there. So. All right. We're gonna go ahead and take a break. You're listening to the American heroes or are by voice American variety channel, and we'll be right back. Your favorite voice, America, talk radio network shows and hosts are in your car outdoors, and wherever you need them to be listen, anywhere. Get our mobile app for my phone blackberry or Android at the apple I tunes apps like vary app world or Android market. Providing a unique blend of information and advocacy. We are helping our American heroes and their families to heal successfully transition into civilian life into thrive in their communities. This generation will not be forgotten. Today's military are our sons and daughters. Listen live to the American heroes network. 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Welcome back here where Mike with veteran education success, Michael see or L that our veterans go to. Is veterans with an as the an education success dot org or Jeep all right? All right now, you also supplied to for us how to apply for what's going on. Now, what I'll do take that link that you gave us put it on the website. So that way people can come in and actually learn how to apply just clicking on that link. Okay. Appreciate it. No problem at all. Bill. Will Mike the any coming events playing with veterans educating success, the individually, or or you know, who are cooperative Lee within the other organizations in the community or around the country. You know, we do that quite regularly. That's playing outside of my department. Go to our website. We should have stuff like that up. I that we consistently post after action reports on our Twitter handle, which is at Jihad-ul rights. Short answer is. I'm sure there will be. But I don't know they are. So we'll look. Yeah. Around the country do that. Okay. All right. The any quick success stories that you can think of where you've been able to assists veteran or veterans in some of these issues that we talked about it panned out on the positive side for the veteran. I would say so you know, we we pretty generally are able to get as much as possible for veterans. I, you know, I wanna take a broader picture policy guy, focus on that stuff. So this past year. There was a Bill called the prosper acts in congress in the house of representatives and never got the Senate, and we we showed a spotlight on it. Because it would have ended the public service loan forgiveness program that was basically the pay for for the whole thing. And once the department of defense found out once the department of navy found out they actually sent letters to congress about it, and you know, unofficially. I I talked to my own father about it. He's. He's a department of the army lawyer hell is a over there since about eighty six and I told him about this ask the panel many of his lawyers use this program. And he said it's about a hundred percent. He wouldn't be a hire somebody out of the private sector to work for the department of the army the navy and the OD figure it out as well. So we were able to get that get that Bill stops. And they they're rethinking the whole thing. The importance to. National security, but veterans as well forgiveness the student loads for mental health providers to help stem the veteran suicide epidemic that was part of the clay hunt. Save AC in twenty fifteen so doing away with that would have had huge second third order affects that just would have been a disaster. They really weren't thinking about the full scope of of affects that Bill could have had. So I think the feed part stopping what would have been bad policy. All right. My, sir. We only have a couple of minutes left. There was a pleasure. Having you on the show is morning won't would you like to share with our listeners closing? I would like for your listeners to to just go out. And you know, I'm sure a lot of people listening veterans, and if they're not they know veterans and just listen to to what they're saying. Just listen to so them what they what they heard today and spread awareness about all everything was mentioned today that the need for. Seminated the information that we were talking about today's is huge. And I just hope that people go out and. And participate in their community. All right Bill. Mike. Thanks for being with us again today. Thank you for your service to this great country of ours in thank you for your continued service in helping veterans and even their families to become aware of some of the pitfalls that can really create havoc in our lives and their lives. All this is so important, and you know, continue to do the great things that you doing. All right. Thank you missed. 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Veterinary Podcast by the VetGurus

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"Welcome to the vet podcast, but the vet gurus Brandon, and Mark get ready for the lightest veterinary news information and entertainment darn forget, visit us at the vet gurus website, vet, bureaus dot com. Now sit back. Relax, it's to the vet girl who's Brandon and mock. Thank you. Mr man. It is Brendan hit with Mark vet. You're is it gurus dot com? Episode Eighty-nine Friday, June, the twenty first and Mike show. Mass on the show us go on. We could not, not do a show could we have been a little bit of had a little bit of what, what people have kindly described to me as the man flew Mark this week, and it's been a better way can a half since since I came back from my China trip, and spend all that time I was as and then I come back to Melbourne, and I and I get the leg. So most of this afternoon. Prostate in bed. Mac and struggled through half a day. What today and probably trying to decide tomorrow, but as usual the gills that high, particularly, particularly caught Vung said just Kepa away from his. I get fit my DNA. I get put in that putting solution. And in the room next door and Sifi. My youngest is just about to finish her last first year, university exam, a tomorrow, an it doesn't want me to be sick and a my, my cut off a few times. He while I have coffee NetApp's or Teva, Smets actually, at the moment. But yeah, so that's what I've been up to what if you've been up to mandate. I'm sure we're all. Leggy cise. Stay stay with us. We'll we'll, we'll deal with it. I'm really genuinely busy of I've had them of had some business meetings into the financial years approaching of some business meetings, I have I had to go to my monthly board meeting of the last couple of days of spent some time in Sydney at mascot at the New South Wales veterinary practitioners board, and we've been busy at work on top of it print, and I don't know where are find the time to fit it in the these, these of gotta say that these discussions, we have pleasant respite from the business of the week my friends. So I look forward to these in the hurly-burly of, of trying to fit everything else in well, the it's been a busy not his back, really. Because then you start to business I need to worry you, or perhaps Penick, Ted Tonto, if, if things I'm going really well, just to share that, too. Excuse me, our sponsors. Thank you for your help you who will listen longtime listener who have not sponsored his, we'd like you listening, regardless. I worry. But if you do sponsor, as you can get a bit goes to comment on the link to pie trion dot applies to guy to throw his Abidin as we like to cite. And my was a dimension last week. And I forgot to tell you about it before the before we started recording about the list of the countries that, that the top ten countries of numbers of people who listen to his, and our do not think you'll have any idea what number three's, Mark, and let me, let me give you a bit of helpless to the top five. Number one. As far as the numbers go is, is strata of this -ly because we're in that region number two as the United States site. What do you think number three will be? I would I would have guessed somewhere in Europe. So armed tipping Italy. Try again try again. I'll give you three guesses in the right. Like hamer's. Yes, the right continent. Why give it away? We'll get spine. It is Kasich. Stop. Very big listener shipping. Cows started and it's up peci. She's getting very excited after literate to the toilet Nasek. What when you talk about you review in into sex, a number full was Canada. And number five is the Yucai United kingdoms. It's one of the genuine like it's a combination of stir fries, and an a real pleasure. That festival eighty one listens to us. But Tom that people listen to us from such dispirit and distant places. It it's, it's like no lifts me up Brinton, Phil really positive about it. When I when I look at those two districts, and I see where people are taking time out of the day almighty, just flicking us on in the car or. When they listen to us, but it's, it's a genuine pleasure in our breach tool as people particularly in Kazakhstan. I'm stained us. I'm a question. Get on the webpage. Get on the Email and, and stimulate us to discuss a topic. You'd love to have is talk about Wade, we'd really in as well as finding out, way people come from. We really genuinely enjoy a communicating about topics. They're interested in. Absolutely. And even if you haven't got a question, if you're in casick's dancing, the name side, why list into how did you find us and why is it? I've a six hundred. Listens. I'm recently in Kazakhstan, peps that was a, a road, computer MAC that a bought the that went horribly minute was trouble. John or to denial of service attack too dumb. And happened to be recorded as dead lighting program. So, yeah, Hello to you in Kansas, tan. So you have a review Mark of the particular did want to talk about. It's not a system that we use with unusual and exotic or avian patients, Brendan, I did today have the pleasure of doing them a tibial, Chubarov city advancement, so drian, no used the security system. I know there's a number of different systems out there, but I did, I've had a, a surgical intern who worked for us, and excellent veterinarian miss him being at work very much. But he set us up with all his Queant and, and today, I broke it out of the tin that it's in your colleague with few basically did, essentially, we, we did the little the little Cup place. The plight. It and put the cage in the spice after having done the complex measurements on the radio graph about did want to say that I found the use of the secure system, the, the, the whole kit real at made the procedure relatively in chew live. And, and I, I the ready aggress after the procedure looked really good. The dogs anterior droll was neutralized and an all together. I think we I think I'd be very happy to use that system in an ongoing fashion. Excellent. What's the school? What, what is the score of ten months, obviously out of ten I- somewhere between and on Brennan? It it's a an easy system to use it as a Fe few bit student, making sure you're familiar with the role of each of the tools, and making show you sufficient cages because did fund that Tom, and this is not just the secure system. It's a bit of a universal thing with the tates that you do all your measurements. You prepare the, the, the Gigi that you want to use in particular dog. And then you've gotta make sure you're prepared to make those adjustments intra operative -ly, and we definitely had to do that, too. I so making show you familiar with the whole thing is, you know, step one, but I did find it relatively easy to use. Give it to eight point six ten Brennan. And uh supposed to the must be. The minimum number of animals, you'd need to do in order to, to make it viable that system because I assume that to buy the initial case it would would not be inexpensive. But the more more patients you do. Once you've got initial instruments that help you place into the measurements and that it's just just the actual hardware that you're in plant in for major case and Armand on the specific numbers at the moment, I don't have them to hand, but Tom this two things. It's definitely. It's definitely a critical mass. You do have to do a certain amount Mike them with while, but the casing think Brennan, is that. Mice practices are I would suspect would stand off crucial critic cases to, to justify the investment in the training and the equipment ah don't think the number of cases is the problem. It's really interesting thing, I've been contemplating this a little bit lightly because surgery of this sort. I mean you talking to me before we came on air and, and I know I refer, you know, if I've got a fifty sixty killer dog ARA for those for the specialists must of the time they looking to maybe do tape yellows in those very heavy dogs, and, you know, these twenty to forty dogs that can Wecker a secure cage, in the cut, they pick right surgeries to do, but, but I think surgery of that sort of the Patick surgeries hot dogging in general practice in general accession practice. I think that many recent graduates might have much listen experience in that stuff than that. Then maybe you and I so, yes, I think that it's a it's an interest, maybe maybe Brennan, one of the factors that, that contributes to a general dissatisfaction with the with the without chosen profession, full, many recent graduates. And maybe a reason that they leaving the profession has to do with that absence of satisfaction that a wide variety of surgeries might provide on I know I know many of the, the, the, the wonderful vets I work with who have been to university. More recently than me that they definitely what's the bright white a put the. This they, they want to be perfect all the time Brennan. You know of told you many times how imperfect I am? And, and I think they don't have the, the necessary give it a crack attitude, that, that maybe wait way, head to have twenty thirty years ago. And so they much more inclined full something that might require net tation of skill that they associate skill that I have if they don't have a rack of training in that procedure, they're much more likely to flick it off to a specialist if that's possible. And, and interestingly enough, at least across New South Wales now, they're they're at least if not registered specialists, but TriNet, who have a particular interest and additional training, you know. Most places across the whole state have access to practices like that. Veterinarians like that. So it's an interesting, the whole the whole complex of orthopedic surgery. And how how often do we referred? How often do we do at out? So how much to invest in it? No, this practice value, as who definitely take a MO a deem view of high referral rights. They note that the most successful and financially viable practices to a significant amount of their own surgery, particularly the basics. Roth a one of the reasons why is fish is a young of it near into little bit reluctant to jump in. And do those procedures is the concern and you can perhaps comment officially may be unofficially has been a board member bet Tom the concern that you're doing. Procedures at that pushed tall dominant university may be. Oh, suggested universities that you to send all as tour registered specialists. I what your thoughts on, you know him at any get around that. Well the way I do it would be if during that procedure aren't use that system in more practice not. But if those are similar prices with another procedure be signed to the client look on court comfortable with doing this particular procedure on your pet and MRs roughly the estimate of what I think it will cost them if all goes to plan your other option is going to a specialist with its unaltered petty specialist or whatever the system where referring for. And that's what I do all day everyday in an perhaps you get a better result. I'm from them. You're my certainly going to get a costing craze in that. But then and Bulla back to the client and say, look, if you want the best, there's iota Patick, surgeon, I'm not a specialist, but I'm comfortable into resumes. I give hit the nylon hit as usual. Disclosure is the key thing. I think particularly from aboard point of view that it. It's the circumstances way clients. Don't feel that they've had the opportunity to choose that makes the much more likely to get to the point where they logic compliant. And if you have had that discussion, and, and, you know, literally the woods you said a very similar to the ones. I say that, you know, the there are people that do this has this specialty and, and I'm happy to send you to them, but this is a procedure that I'm happy to do in your case. And, and we haven't talked about, as you suggested the estimate of costs. And then people make an informed decision once that happens. I think there's, there's less chance of, of complaints arising. But you're of Royd it's an interesting topic to contemplate the, the expectations of clients that, that I, I definitely think that when I graduated if. If I was decide to acquire look I've never done this before, but on on, you know, familiar with the brewing techniques, I think can apply it to this particular case on willing to have a crack when I graduated the, the clients would got. Yeah, well, that's fair enough. And probably there wasn't as many trying specialists set in those deemed duck dies. Hove recent graduate experiencing. Mockery. But now clients arm, you know, this television shows telling them all the time about the super vets, and the, the amazing things that can be done in specialist practice, and so the expectation of quints has changed dramatically, and the internet gives them a results with which they can research that stuff. So definitely think there's a changes both now L profession. And in the people, the clients that we serve. Yes. Very well put MAC. And yes. Disavow coffee. We go through that. Yeah. I think that's a very good topic for a an actual mine topic for a future podcast that referral cases in dealing with them by bathing the person referred to end referring cases. And. He's a few less than it's for everybody for the really good ninth. So and I'd love to take the time, particularly given the experience of looking at some of those, you know, the reasons for complaints might might inform things that we can change a little bit, and even just in communication. But yes, topic for another time Brennan. We will put it it's, it's on the list it is on the list. Well, I'm going to jump into the first news story in the mine topic this week is news news. News news. We're trying to get through a few of the few of the news articles that have been piling up on our on virtual disks in my. My intro is absolutely chock full and my first news stories Canada bands or captive. Wiles and dolphins Canada rain Willie MAC, which is. Right. Yes, it is. Now is illegal to braid wiles and dolphins or even keep them in captivity, and the Bill covers all kept to sataan whilst dolphins porpoises and establishes fines up to two hundred thousand dollars for violation. It was passed. It was called Bill two three MAC, and at Seoul, sinus. Afri oily Bill on June June the tenth this year and aquariums cat. Can I can idea Canada? Currently has to facilities Cape dolphins and wiles and kept tippety my sane the rawdon on the world long before the Bill began its journey because last year, the Vancouver aquarium which was kept dolphin awhile for more than fifty as announced it would FIS outs Tyson program by two thousand twenty on anyways. So, yeah, so one of the one of the concerns, Mark is that, that the people that lobbying against the. The potential this, this Bill, which has passed is that Tom it the Bill, Mike, it necessary to terminate light stage, pregnancies of beluga whales, which will unexpected, I wouldn't do that, that I just let them have have have the youngsters. But we'll say what what's happening there but. Yeah. And neither a fair number of an increasing number countries, mar that a phase out so Tyson's in captivity. Yes. So that's why it's MS Dory, one it does. I know that our professional organization the Ivy in a stroller struggled to come up with a, a, a policy. That's you know, a broad church. The veterinary profession has different views and I know professional organization is struggled to come up with a clear direction. But. But I think that there are some Spacey's of animals that that really can't be kicked in captivity, and, and, you know, sedation certainly fit into the category of animal that has to make significant compromise to the normal behaviors and whatnot. So I'm, I'm look been, we've been able to see some of the, the complications that happened from breeding these animals in captivity and, and it doesn't always work as will as you would think. So I'm sort of glad Brendan. This is might be glad if there's one more country that stops keeping dolphins and wiles in captivity. That's a good thing. Good. What's your recap? I think we actually talked about about this topic earlier in the but I just wanted to touch on the fact that of the, the concept is a couple of issues in this particular story about the came back from the dead. It's the story of a research, a research article from the university of Portsmouth and actual history museum that Tom that reports on riles, those flightless birds that, you know, we have rails here in a strategy, but on algebra that the all in my famous by the slightly smaller joint cousin of the Galapagos land told us, the allburn tortoise that on that island, one of the Osler at holes has had twice. Riles land on the island and then subsequently become flightless because of the night show of the, the environment that I didn't need to fly. Once they got in the and so this process of Ishrat, give of Aleutian. That is the repeated dilution of similar structures from the same insist about at different times in history is actually this was the first case in L dubber, where it was identified but riles all around the world have been shown, to, to, to be one of probably the most common issues, evolutionary, you know, subjects. I'm the white sided rile abode in question is about the size of chicken, and it's indigenous to the southwestern Pacific other southwestern Indian Ocean. And I like many rows of Pacific. Colonizers of oscillated Auckland's. But in this instance when they've gotten to one of these owns of outta, and they haven't been predators. Become flightless a little bit of like the dodo it in Mauritius Brennan. Well, I know you, you go on coughing. I was going to just go off the rials. They Mark and took my next news story, actually, probably with your rial. Well, one ex new stories a bit of fluff max. I dunno. I put it in there, but was in the list of ones to take off and cross off and throwing the been the nets bet. Your stress may be stressing at your dog. And it's a little article a bit racer at linked campaign university in Sweden whether I asked owners of fifty eight border collies, chitlins, shape dogs to feel like questionnaires about the does that are in personnel as and they dogs personalities and I came to the conclusion that Ona's with highest stressful tend to have dogs with our lives. And if the Aigner, it's tryst thin, the dogs lightly to mirror, the stress and if one of the comments with one of the couch, Lena Roth was interviewed by in Pia. It was the Unas personality that influence the dog's hair called Dokes hair cortisol level, rather than the dogs pesonality itself, they measured quotas all levels in the dogs and the and the human. But look at the quotas all level in the dogs from a half black Mark mission it in the so yeah. And the bottom line in this story is they side, just because you're dog is tuned into your Mushin sense. Stress doen't worry that your body is hurting your pit don't think you should be anxious that if you're stressed you might harm your dog Ross says instead, your dog is a social support view Anura social support for your dog will. Will. Cobbles. I I it's I'm feeling a bit film bit annoyed. My come on. Not an must be the flu. Get into me. But other now bet that I've got a choice up that actual pipe and safe it did report, exactly what though assign in that bit of fluff in some intern, what shows bloody surprise that. If you're a stress sort of person, a bit anxious about Wath that you'll pits are likely to, you know, sense smell. He whatever these be aware of it, and they likely to be similarly worried about what are the oh, worried about surprise now ones at fault, but it doesn't surprise me. Brendan. Will that late? Shop the from a small two thousand eleven study way research, has tried to identify identify the best way, the right white to pet your dog without stressing them obesity. You don't wanna poss on you'll room. Your personally are these. So the first point is that you should avoid contact and that, that. I contact is one of the nonverbal signals between dogs that rises, the, the threat level, and we should really avoid it, because they hate it, when humans do it to them so slightly of your guys and maybe angle, your body just slightly in a different direction number to invite the dog to greet you put your hand down in front of him the back of your hand. Let them have smell of you don't necessarily reach over the top of their head straight off, maybe even squat down, and present as toll and threatening a, a, a signer. You've obviously got got to be careful not to put your your, your self at risk. Make sure that you can always withdraw quickly, whether it be your arm. Make sure the person with the dog on the lead has them under control, but Tom. Slow and steady small and just holding your hand out. Maybe pit gently is number three become and slow rubbing in the direction of the for don't get rough and tumble. This is a book thing. Brennan, don't know him any Thomson. The consult room blokes come in and they want to wrestle their dull. They wanna tell some. What? I wanna wrestle they dog and it's not good. The dogs don't lock it. They, they that goes quickly from play to a stressful thing, number four is the best pitting spots. The study found it's best to avoid reaching for the dog's head or face and that sort of bays. No big surprise that. It's a very threatening gesture to over do not come across the top of the head in the direct vision, and it's a, a an era of personal space that, that many dogs feel the to protect so gently stroked the side of the dogs chest, maybe over the shoulders as we said, gently running hand in the direction before without Tom significant pressure. Just you've always going to be careful if dealing with a decks on, if you're up their shoulders and back, you know, they might will have pined back so. Always be careful that way. And finally. Will ultimately one buck fondly look for signs of stress obviously be aware of those signals that the dog is sending to you that they feel uncomfortable. So if they yawning licking, their lips looking away, as back, they very, very concerned, and it's best to withdraw and try not to Tra stress them will stop trying to pet them. You've got to really observe that and the last one is don't hug them like you know, we you and Auburn and hug each other all the time, and well, at least of the Bill about it, but with dogs. Especially when you've got closed. I would never read to lead to look at the, the wrong by wait. We can't touch civic spots on our end the head or on the side or the back Cam, we can't, we can't hide them site. Should we be having those animals? Good. I do I have bits and follow the rules. I think everyone else. Kintu. Well Monday news story is dogs really smiling at. And I wanna talk that where the dogs can smile, and whether they do small, what it means max Cintra on the topic of anthropomorphic hair. A study published in the journal of current biology that esteemed Juno Mak tested. How Wilson dogs would respond to the impossible task of I put in a container to get at some mate, they knew was within the reach researchers found that while wolves was simply store, cough and get an Hoyt when they discovered I couldn't open dogs would turn around and give the humans along inquiry and guys suggesting that these animals, new oppostion could help them complete the task come. I think any got that, look, Dan pet with my end should go erector and her finger has firs, I'm getting things done, and another study a study published in the journal science fan by dogs and humans as Berenson increase levels in oxytocin when I'd lock eyes. With one another another something going on their shared guys is a fundamental mechanism for cooperation if you think about it, according to one other researches code. Jamin told of science humans have might have bred this tried into dogs over the course of their domestication and further on in this article Matt, I said trying to find the Bitta pet bet smiles. I wanted to know if this behavior of when dogs do a wide eyed. Facial green. Is it an actual small on not so they we go on trying to find what we that brings us to the smile does your dogs wide math expression carry the same significance as a human grin Kaminsky, advise caution of had dogs all my life. So now that if you know, your dog really, well, you're able to rate, it's behave is of got ni- problem with given behi- hive is liable. She said, but as a scientist, of course, I say, hey, we know that is mile. We have zero data telling us that this is what it actually means. It's a subjective. Thought was end us gone to you. A little bit about the relaxed open math in dogs paying positive thing. And that may be is a bit like a smile. But I think we're in a little bit. The article reminds me of another article read recently, Brendan. I'm in the, the proceedings of the National Academy of sciences in the United States, which talked about the evolution of facial muscle anatomy in dogs. And this article suggests that, that there are actually additional muscles that function on the pope Hebrew Fisher on the eyelids that, that to mystic dogs have additional muscles that are not present in wolves, and interestingly are not present in the Arctic braids in malamute's and, and huskies. And the gone. Yeah. Absolutely. I saw that articles. Next week's podcast. Excellent nine now it was a very good. So. Just discussed. So I did feel that it was worth mentioning that they actually that, that, that it's a complicated thing. Maybe not direct selection pressure, not, not that we've actually chosen dogs that have baby is essentially much more pleasant to look at is. But Tom that they get a reward for having those guys that, that humans are more likely to, you know, tend has an years ago when the fire was roaring. And we'd had a bit of woolly mammoth bone that the dog that had those sorts of is we're more likely to toss a little bit of, you know. Lift over bone to. And so they survived bitter in and bread more. And so that trait became something that, that domestic dogs developed. Fascinating that, that, that co evolution the, the night of us growing together in the process of domestication could occur like that Brennan. Which doesn't lead me an anyway, topic, which is the crisis this. Don't know that I'm gonna be able to hold it together, Brandon don't know that I'm going to be able to hold it together. But I want to talk about some of the biggest issues for wildlife, and specifically endangered species in twenty nineteen it's been a rough year last year, but it's just think going to get worse, Brendan. It's just going to get worse in in twenty eighteen. We lost the last mile northern white rhino at which talked about the quota porpoise continuous it's inevitable sawed to extinction. Pangolin being. Targeted by poachers other creatures around the world, and particularly one of the greatest democracies in the world now being in the hands of, of the Republicans and Trump in particular whittling away key protections for endangered species, and so. Oh, jeez. I just don't know. That's all in twenty what's going to happen in twenty nineteen Brennan, the rest of the next six months, what are we going to see I expect from this article that ongoing Quam chaos is going to be a major impact on many of L endangered species water temperatures arising, and particularly those species that I was just looking at one of the toads, one of the rarest toads in the world that lives on just a few square kilometers of a mountain top that is constantly, misty in Borneo and, and it will. Only take very like what probably past the point where that environment that little area of habitat will be permanently changed. And that will be the end of that towed. Brendan. So. Well, you're a fun to. Positive news tonight today. Mac, but yeah, it's looking grateful many, many, many species at so in a to when led to look at the wrong, why all the other Spacey's go out. But of positive news, Mark, a beautiful beautiful thing happens when farm animals are allowed to grow out, according to this new story makan, and I quite like this one, because it has some lovely photography. And as she ni- we lock Heff talker vay in the podcast. And it is a bet I well, it's about a photographer could is a Lesko, and she spotted a horse nine Patey that looked arthritic. It's a de-pollution horse and his eyes were clad with cataracts and his count was dull and course any move really stiffly, but she was MS Moore is by and cheap ran and grabbed a Cameron took a few pitches of her. And, and since then, she's pay net taking pictures of all farm animals, and she thinks Semaj Jesty about his old aging animals, and as. The topic that pay would particularly normally rate Chattan grab the camera Foale. Everybody was a cute and cuddly little, little, just a bone animals. Not they out asterik on Hawaii out animals by which reminds me when us start to say, PayPal taking fighters of me, I think I'll know dot I must be on my last legs MAC. But yeah, that's amazing fighters. She has an she's had an exhibition of always animals. And yes, she says many people cry are receive hundreds of deeply personal emails from people all around the world. Sharon was the gray forever. Dine parent or an I, I lean beloved piss pet so it's it was early a really nice really a story. And, you know, they have a few of the have the link would've acres dot come to some of the peaches, they're including file the belly pig ham who was partially paralyzed. I a Turkey, Mark. A really. Oh, dump south Dan shape. It was surrended as an alleged animal wasn't producing. Flakes anymore think and then a twenty one year old alpine gut. I who's an who looks very majestic. Yeah. Some fantastic. Fighters are notice Mark, if you sign the site, you might not have that all of the pieces, she's there and black mud because he had that stunning sort of contrasting, midges air. And as you know, delight a black and white picture at sun times. Yes. I think it was a good news story that one in. I bet I Jin wiz with dignity and, and some of the United putting focus in a spotlight on some of these animals that are in that letter years. Mar come and a lot of these were rescue animals as well that have just living that life and. As well as the, the exhibition and the website, I think that also has I am a book that has these images in it. And as you said, they, they, well, they are emotionally charge they, they, they complex, but they're beautiful images. And, and I sort of a so many of the stories, we talk about Brennan, tenjin chill to Al veterinary profession, just sprung from a deep interest in animals, in general, but this is one that, that I felt return to, you know, some of those themes of a professional life that do talk about Tom the do talk to the Nitra grief in the nature of respect and, and, and what, how to celebrate generous and long life and ensure that those. Those last bits maintain the dignity and, and quality that, that animal person has known throughout they life. Yes, it was. It was something that I can understand why inches in that, that bookmark. To characterize this one Brennan. This one is well, I suppose like to think of it as puzzle story. Let's, let's look into it. I don't think it's a company Webster, LTd, which is who in Astrid. He almond produces like the that femme almonds. And, and it's a significant of business for them. They, they produce two hundred tons of almonds H E, and they mainly do that in the New South Wales. Seth coast to Riverina region. I'm one of the things that this agribusiness has to do to ensure the production of the product is have the, the, the flowers fertilized an animal's bees? And so traditionally, they have spent a well, a third of a million dollars, hiring, hundreds and thou's. Thousands of bays in multiple they have in order to pollinate their arm entries throughout southern New South Wales, but only a month ago, the company decided to will expose how do they this is vertical integration? Isn't it? Brennan knives, spend eight million dollars buying five and a half thousand Bihar. So they don't have to hire them anymore. They have their own. So it's a I suppose in one sense. It's a, a testament to the importance of bees to businesses to agri-businesses, particularly, and it will be, I think, in the future, a little bit of a flash point that many traumas who. Organically, as without without significant action on the part have their plants fertilized and produce a crop will now maybe in the future, the required to acquire bees of one species are another to ensure that crop actually comes to fruition. So I suppose, it's, it's a positive recognizing the importance of bees, and maybe a bit of a negative in that. We've reached a point in history where you can't just rely on those while base to do the job for you. You have to ensure that their colonies on your property that will fertilize your almond trees, Brandon. Yes. And I think we forget about the importance of Bain east remark and is one of the topics that I give give pot of late to first veterans on students here in Melbourne, MAC, every and often look at me quizzically. Incite, why the hell away line about bays in my first year, the writing resigns course and my typically. Well, it's on the it's on the list of topics so we have to teach it. But by the time we sort of guys, the importance of bays, and potentially, the points of veterans within the bane distri, Mark ham Derulo. High year it something that I think, as they mentioned their Armand in the class. Looking at me, so year at some it's, it's fun fest night in the importance of bays in the world. Where would we be with that bays where? That doesn't late as onto my next news story, but to give it anyway. And this is my last new story back in it. So. The fun one. It's got a cute dog in code Chipper and Chipper. The dog race saw Kohl's and Katie chippers owner or guardian adopted Chaba in Mesa, Arizona, as a puppy, and I spend a lotta time outside and chip applied with plastic bottles. When used to fund them on were walks always used to pick them up for, so he she ended up encouraging him to pick up all as plastic waste bottles and even more than just a plastic portables, and it became his thing, Mark. So Chyba has a passion for their roles and for picking up trash, and they go at several times awake. And now he has, as you could imagine his, I'm Instagram following any asthma. Thirty one thousand people, hey, follow him, and he goes out in the bat, the picks up all sorts of trash shoes, and oh damn not just the bottles. But all sorts of rubbish. The collapse. And she is as a method to encourage. The prevention of polluting air environment to clean up the water wise around our aunt hyme, so and he Caisley picks up discarded, clydes navy near the casual old shoop some kid little fighters. They're cheaper, so I wanted to end on a might be a little bit of a trivial one. But I think it's a good one with the, the human animal bond. They Matt wave wave sort of think that may be all on house, lifting that much good point to finish this week's podcast. Brendan. About the next one. Well, let's leave it for next week. Yeah. You've given a very strong hint there should should tight that. Yes. Because I think that one that next next news stories is called a good one that we can leave it next week because a couple of topics to our hearts, Mark. Differently does well, well let something for listeners to think of that, especially for the ising casick's done for next week. And we will look forward to listen to you, or now you look forward to listen to us what you next week and we will talk to you, then say next week. Thanks for listening to the vet podcast by the vet gurus. Don't forget to visit us at the website, vet gurus dot com where you can subscribe view show nights. Listen, the previous episodes and more can contact us by Email and vet gurus g mail dot com to ask the question or just say, hi, thanks again, and see you next time.

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"CBO Brother, Where Art Thou?"

"Ears you'll never get bored get your first three meals free with free shipping by going to blue apron dot com slash crooked blue apron a better way to cook and the presenting sponsor of positive America is Bluey choose from a variety of new recipes each week or let Blue Apron's culinary team surprise you recipes are not repeated within the ACE and the Supreme Court stayed the lower court injunctions against the ban in a kind of convoluted way basically saying that the band injunctions and also statement from the Conservatives of the court including Gorsuch Alito and Thomas starting to speak to their belief that the on the allowing my stomach to experience the speculation of and then Kennedy's got downstairs Delicious Breakfast Burrito in stand for now with the exception of people who have and this is the term they used a bona fide relationship with people in the United States a deeply concerning this court seems to be hinting at a willingness to let this order stand and we're about to see a partially about the effect of having Neal Gorsuch on the Supreme Court which is an unfairness we can barely stomach but also their desire to send a message to lower courts Senator Capito who has not announced whether or not she is voting for this bill but we're GONNA get to healthcare in a minute let's start with some housekeeping so there's a new pod save the people tomorrow and also there is a special episode of Ana Marie Cox Show with friends like these where she went to a trump rally and talk to them I highly recommend another seat so that speculation no one has any idea but it's just a reminder that we've gotta get our asses in gear and win the midterms because this is serious business and I am not you might be asking yourself what does that mean that's exactly what everybody else is asking so there seems to be a lot of stuff going on here that people are just parsing through this is uh-huh Tommy Vitor today we have a special guest West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin we're GonNa talk to him about the Senate bill on his colleague best but you know it was useful exercise where people are coming from it was also really instructed to see like how much Fox News has just been internalized and regurgitated by so many people so many merits trump will prevail. I mean this is remember that this thing was sold to us as necessary because of some sort of urgent threat from refugees coming from overseas thank you Tommy you're welcome so we're obviously going to keep an eye on that situation but obviously the big story this week is healthcare I have written entirety of the first term of the trump administration because we're reading about this news on the day there's also rampant speculation about Justice Kennedy possibly stepping down announcing his retirement and that would mean trump has to fill a cooler channel so before we get to healthcare some breaking news this morning the Supreme Court has agreed to hear the trump Muslim ban ricketts ruling and the other efforts to slow this thing down so these guys are full of Shit is what I'm trying to say but this room courts going to hear him out yeah I mean not much more to add on this for now it's obviously crazy administrative nightmare as people try to prove that they have a relationship with someone in the US in order to come here these are the pits in your stomach we're gonNA feel for the from Individuals in these countries it was sold as one hundred and twenty day ban on day one hundred fifty five so that threat that urgency hasn't really panned out despite the nights you've analysts said I'd expect coverage to be eighteen to twenty million fewer than under obamacare he then went on to say why he doesn't agree with that number but of course he doesn't he believes in the magic doc of whenever the hell trickled healthcare economics so it anticipation of the CBO score coming out the administration and its allies went out to defend the bill this story in Yahoo Breaking this down Gary Claxton the director of the health care marketplace program at the Kaiser Family Foundation said fifteen or more million will likely lose coverage also a conservative listened to be I I listen to over the weekend and she did a great job of just going and listening to people and trying to have a fact based conversation and I think it was Remar- you'll pull your hair out when you hear it this weekend and they told a series of lies that were absolutely gobsmacked here a few of them and amazingly I liked that a lot we are waiting for the CBO score it is likely to come out today by all accounts it will show that millions if not tens of millions will lose coverage there was a the things that you'll only see on like Tucker Carlson show our spouted back in these interview so it's worth listening check it out very cool very in a bash we would not have individuals lose coverage that's ally Pat Toomey told John Dickerson the Senate bill will codify and make permit Kellyanne Conway told George Stephanopoulos that there aren't Medicaid cuts in this bill and that is the least agrees Wi that was told this weekend right because they claim not a cut it's just we're spending less than we otherwise would have spent it's bullshit if you're expecting money to come next year and then you find out less money as coming I think you'd feel as though you're indicate expansion which is exactly the opposite of what it would do it ends the Medicaid expansion and he said no one loses coverage again ally Sean Asian found that Medicaid not only as an eighty four percent approval rating among Democrats it has a seventy six percent approval rating among independence and a sixty one percent approval rating much worse much worse I have written in my outline because John's on the line while he's gone CBO brother where art is to what this administration is doing. But I digress Spicer said trump is quote committed to making sure that no one currently is in Medicaid in the Medicaid program is affected in any way which is reflected in the Senate bill and he's pleased with that so every part of that is a lie so here's why they're lying a poll by the Kaiser family found her salary had been cut and you're also assuming that no more people will get sick and that prices won't go up on all the things were paying for exactly Tom Price HHS secretary told among Republicans and the exact same poll we discover that only thirty eight percent of people are aware that the GOP healthcare plans cut Medicaid because a they've been lying about it be places like Fox News Aren't telling the truth or simply not covering the facts and see Mitch McConnell's plan to keep the bill under wraps has been Acer in a briefing on Friday that was not on camera because they don't WanNa be on tape lying and the White House Correspondents Association is unable to muster a response pretty effective So Tommy were waiting for the CBO score today we're going to keep an eye on it if it happens during the show do you think that the CBO score and the bill becoming public will get people more I mean the the Joe John Cornyn today said that they are that they are closing the door on a delay in the vote now that is worrying all said they were not ready to support the bill Mike Lee on Friday said something very interesting in a medium post and he said this far short cleaning West Virginia so that those are the stakes of what we're talking about we need these guys to to take fairly politically courageous vote when it comes to to break the tie so we need to pry off three Republicans because we've had unanimity among the Democrats for Conservatives Mike Lee Ted Cruz Ron Johnson and ran in the end Jonathan Swan axios who has really been running the story the ground reported yesterday that a widely held view in McConnell world is that he doesn't start donor class I mean I I read a statistic today that four hundred individuals who will get a tax cut under this bill or the equivalent of Medicaid expansion in like four or five including West Virginia all senators and we're relying on public pressure from the grassroots to swamp like you know the coke brothers are talking about spending three hundred million dollars in the midterm election sexy or so the local pressure from McConnell from their big donors in listen to their constituents in like Shit I wish I thought that I knew how this is going to go but I don't I don't know anymore yeah the repeal the Senate Bill Keeps the Democrats broken system intact just with less spending on the poor to pay for corporate bailouts and tax cuts a cynic might say that the Senate bill is less a Republican to turn that from an asset to a liability for him but that time just doesn't exist here and that is what scares me it should scare everyone out there that we have basically four days healthcare bill than a caricature of a Republican health care bill and yet he does go on to say after all that for all that I have not closed the door on voting for some version of it focused on us I think it will but I think you know our windows so small that it it's it's going to take a Herculean effort to push back I mean we're in a place now where we're relying on fifty two republicans he starts with fifty one many view Rand Paul as a lost cause and someone who has never gettable now that could be posturing that could be sending a signal that could be about where we are with the politics and with the vote remember we need three they need they need to get fifty fifty In the Senate so that Mike Pence ended consequences which are that Medicaid covers seventy four million Americans four out of ten American children are covered by medicaid ten million Americans with disabilities received yeah no can get changed slightly allow these guys to take a win and so they're already talking about carving out a special deal for Alaska that would change the way certain pricing occurred as a giveaway into kind of make the bill seem more engaged than it is but regardless Tommy how quickly do you think these right wingers are GonNa fold these stories are scary drafting errors look that the democratic process or passing Obamacare was incredibly intensive and public and scrutinized and all the rest but even still because the home for the July fourth recess. They don't come back because I did vote for this bill in part because of what everybody's been telling to put pressure on these people so let's you those senators and get their votes this happened under obamacare Ben Nelson custody of those called the corn husker kickback ultimately it took weeks in months of political pressure there are huge unintended consequences that would have effects on employer benefits on premiums on Medicaid and all the rest that we just don't even understand and let's just hammer home the because of the way the bill had to be passed because of the death of Ted Kennedy we don't need to get into it there were drafting mistakes that made it all the way to the Supreme Court it is very likely I try to have empathy for the individuals who are currently second worried about this but this is going to harm coverage from employers something called Association Health plans which means debt from healthcare problem and an appoint that Rand Paul made which is that he can't support this because it's too much like obamacare light it leaves so many of the regulations and it's Oh human stories here that needs to be highlighted and lifted up as we talk about this because like this is going to be devastating for people that have no voice they have no lobbyists they have no money they have nothing but to put back in caps and all the rest but ultimately the biggest part of this bill is the cuts to Medicaid and the tax cuts so that's what we're fighting so we're trying to paint a picture here of just how damaging this bill would would be and we are backed by the facts we are backed by the evidence we're going to be backed by CBO score but another important thing to remember is a your health insurance company can offer policy but it doesn't have to offer chemo or radiation so what we could see is he slow wittling down of insurance to something that's not we really want to go back to a situation where a child is born and goes into neo natal care and hits their lifetime limit on their health insurance before they left there's a really complicated issue and it's a really complicated bill and it was written in secret and it is just now hit the light of day the reason we have a big process the reason we have politics is then Rakowski we're going to ask Senator Mansion about Senator Capito given how hard this bill hits West Virginia Tommy visiting you were is it actually does matter that everybody gets a look at this because they might not have thought of everything they know the unintended consequences huge mistake drafting errors for care around up in the Supreme Court right now I cannot support a piece of legislation that takes insurance away from tens of millions of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Nevada it is pretty impressive that he went out there and said that Medicaid I mean this is going to go after the most vulnerable people in our population now Ari Melber did an interview with a mother and her son who was on disability insurance we any compromise they must vote for some kind of repeal no matter what it is yeah it's a sickness I think in the trump era Republican party which is he says I worried they will lull people into complacency. There's a lot of you know John Oliver did a good piece of miss last night like all the reportings like the bill is unlike support it's like well actually they introduced something four days to revamp one six of the economy and the point that I think a lot of you look there's a dynamic here and this is GonNa happen on any big piece of legislation but look we're we're he's wrong period on the politics but like the idea that he that Hugh Hewitt in the establishment Trumpian want to push the party off a cliff that should scare him in move voters yeah the money that these people are putting behind repeal is pretty incredible actually write the coke brothers are putting money come out against the bill and he did so pretty strongly stood next to you governor Brian Sandoval Republican and said this bill would mean a loss of coverage for millions of Americans and many Nevada I'm telling you it is a tax cut bill entered the Medicaid bill the the exchanges and all the rest they fuck with them they make them worse they're gonNa make seniors pay more money they're giving insurance companies the ability to the vote for something before they even know what it is absurd to me and meanwhile dean Heller has a million dollars being spent against him TV ads by trump SUPERPAC. where the you were ranting about this morning joely Hugh Hewitt has an op Ed that basically says Republicans have to be for something that they need to be for basic again I mean there was an NBC pull out this morning by three to one margin the American public holds a negative view of the ASPCA the House Bill Sixteen percent of adults believe that it's is not what he came to the Senate to do in fairness Rand Paul there is some truth to that in in that this bill does two things far more than it reforms the healthcare system and far more than reforms Obamacare SUPERPAC? What the fuck are we doing here? Where's priorities is that we spent fifteen million dollars on Jon ossoff phrase I'd love to see two or three million getting pumped into Nevada bees that seems like a guy that's trying to lash himself to the mass so he doesn't have the ability to change his mind Susan Collins of Maine and said she is waiting for the CBO score Lisa Murkowski of Alaska all useful to people? Yeah I mean something Chris has talked about a lot is that a lot of what this bill seems to want to do is create a subprime insurance market you know all these conservatives talking about how Oh these regulations that require hospital for the very first time I mean that is what we're talking about so let's talk about the senators that we do believe are reachable Dean Heller of Nevada has already certain benefits raising premiums and there is some truth to that because a lot of people had really low premiums and healthcare that didn't cover anything had a yearly cap at a lifetime cap I mean the calls it political insanity and beyond irresponsible to vote against a bill that we don't even know what the CBO score would be we don't even know the impact of it and you know those plans don't comply with any rules and you know what you have in your plan because states can waive protections or certain guidelines of what has to be healthcare plan so basically if you have cancer you can said she's going to crunch the numbers okay you do that you you say let's do this both Collins and Murkowski have talked about their commitment to planned parenthood collins more strongly on that a good idea forty eight percent said it's bad even Republican respondents are lukewarm about it thirty four percent view of positivity seventeen percent view it negatively so first of all like I Vata Alaska Ohio West Virginia where there may be a deciding vote and if you WanNa make calls from home again evolved as always we remind you that we're working with indivisible GOTO TRUMP DIS for poor to purchase insurance and visit doesn't do enough to get rid of insurance companies of coverage requirements. I mean these guys are as devious awful as you could ever imagine so subbing back there they're human beings and this is the biggest decision they'll have made in a long time for someone like capita in West Virginia has just gone to the Senate this may be the biggest decision she's ever made in her life care ten dot org slash crooked and you can call your senator you can email their legislative assistance and staffers at work on this issue we gotta keep it up yeah I just capital that will kick off continuous protests move on is calling it the people's Filibuster if you're in DC should go check it out there's also local protests and that's especially important if you live in a state right which is predicting what happens this week is a fool's errand nobody knows just light up the phones and social media just do everything you can I think that's really important I think to remember too is that a lot of these well trump is tweeting excuses so you know we're his heads out by the way how great was it that he called the House bill mean enclosed doors Paul Ryan went out and denied it and said he was misinterpreted than he was I was talking about this over the weekend it's like there's been a lot of like oh these centers were under so much pressure they're gonNA have to vote for they can't vote for it in center Brian Schatz of Hawaii made this point for during the trump administration and all of us should be calling our senators and members of Congress and everybody else we can put pressure on but also call your friends who live in the states and ask them because all the Oy than anybody thought you've seen Mike Pence gave a speech over the weekend where he said we will repeal obamacare quote by summers and serve early conceding that they may not be able to do it this week ah been one of the point on that is just like as much as as native the Medicaid cuts one thing I mean everyone listening if you're young and you're not sick now you will be someday that's what happens in life so positive America's brought to you by Harry's razors we love using Harry's razors here at pods America because even though I probably shave less frequently than most people I see yeah because it it it Ki- whe- it's worrying because there's a chance that means they think they have the votes it also may just mean they understand that if a bunch of their members much of these senators go home is have switched to Harry's Jeff and Andy Two regular bros. were fed up with buying overpriced razors started Harry's to fix shaving Harry's offers their AIDS at half the price of the leading fiber razor selling directly to you over the Internet claim your free trial offer from Harry's today a thirteen dollars value for free when you sign up during Shave Gel a travel blade cover go to harrys dot com slash crooked for your free trial right now that's Harrys dot com slash crooked Four years is a long time it feels longer every day but I sincerely believe that this will be the single most important vote in thing that we fight for can do the worst thing that can happen as they say no but if we don't try if we don't fight on this we will never win on anything else and the fact that they've taken off the table the idea that this makes me royal shave set for free when you sign up Harry's dot com slash crooked just pay three bucks for shipping why Harry's Harry's is all about a great shave at a fair price which is why over three million guys her to care for him in the home is on Medicaid everyone should watch it I people have been andy slaving he used to run import healthcare programs for the Obama Administration tweeted this out I mean there are a real just cover the three dollars of shipping your free trial set includes a weighted ergonomic razor handle five precision engineered blades with lubricating trip and trimmer blade a rich land. I've heard me say this a billion times one of the weird have you done the thing where Sonos has you tune your speakers I haven't done that I don't know what that is a new software update it's like it sounds even better so I honey let's just take a break we're back we're going to talk about some other stuff hey don't go anywhere this is positive America and there's more on the way the office office we've no furniture or podcast studio but we've speakers when's your man what's we're able to record podcasts in her office interview on Fox and friends by one of the morons might as well work for him and he was like Hey I called the meeting because it was you know I don't think it's that good you're just confirmed it was you're so excited he he's proud of his ability to name Hi and they said this bill doesn't go far enough that's amazing those pricks those guys are disappointed Jesus doesn't do enough to dismantle obamacare they're opposed abused they're still substance close shave every time and the blades common in my mailbox delivered every week enough to go to CVS and spend ungodly money wasps shave monthly your sister Eh and to to say that you know what this person is going to do I think is a failure to understand how people work so I think the pressure really works I think pressure's really effective already got US Dean Heller more strong research may be posturing but it may be that they know that either they're gonNA pass it this week or they won't pass it all you saw in that light note it was the most comprehensive story written to date about not just what Russia did to intervene in our election but the Obama administration's response so it's they included cyber attacks on their infrastructure releasing materials to embarrass Putin and then in late December ultimately Obama approved a modest package that expelled thirty five diplomats close CIA analyst. I guess and he's Mitch McConnell the stealth the worst member of minutes I mean just we'll get or four individuals only that had to be returned and that's when Obama started learning about what was going on and at that point it was clear hackers had penetrated the Democratic party networks part of the take home is that this was a partisan effort from the start the White House briefed the House and the Senate Leadership September at that meeting Mitch McConnell Voice Doubts about the accuracy of intelligence because he's yes I have my Sonos play baseball I watch my TV. I have one in the dining room I have one in my bathroom so when I'm watching a show I can hear it all throughout my house now we have some Blah and we're back last week the Washington Eddie he doesn't realize when should branding so on Monday Senate Democrats are going to have an all night talk a thon to protest the bill on Tuesday there's a rally at two PM at the Russian facilities in the US There was some narrow economic sanctions and then there were apparently some covert cyber measures that we just don't know much about but you know welcome to Pod Save America I'm John Host through its hat in the Pulitzer Ring With Greg Miller Ellen Nakashima adamant of bylined a piece called inside Obama secret struggle to punish Russia for hacking uh-huh and that is why go to high tea and then they go home and they shave Harry's is so confident that you're gonNA love their blades they'll give you their free July the FBI to open an investigation to contacts between Russian officials and trump associates over the over the next several months the White House debated all these options for deterring or punishing Russia agree one senior administration official said I sort of feel like we choked friend of the pod Russia expert Obama former Obama Mike mcfaul said the punishment didn't fit the crime stories like a punch in the face yeah yeah okay so ultimately they wanted to put up this big bipartisan statement got watered down turned into a non political statement in the article Obama's defender say that by August the damage was done wikileaks had the emails Obama Confronted Putin in September and likely prevented them from excavating these attacks and that the partisanship that the GOP response efforts to brief this and and to get us to respond as a nation constrain their options others did they respond as well as they could have given the nature of what happened in the time it takes to collect confirm and deal with the sensitive stuff yeah for so I took the McConnell piece August two thousand sixteen when the White House I briefed on this explosive intelligence and it talks about how the like this didn't get emailed over it was a currier over in an envelope that was when should have paid a much higher price from the attack and then we should consider more action so I guess my question for you love it or like one did Obama and the Obama administration choke or cost the government between Republicans and Democrats especially at the local level Mitch McConnell holding the Gorsuch seat open refusing to be part of this statement it positive America is also brought to you by SONA SEE LOVES DUNno we love tennis they ask you to do your own thing here are some notes I don't know I have someone else ever in my house I love it you got actually important to how what they were trying to do so they were trying to muster a bipartisan response not only because it would have been good politics but because managing our elections is a bipartisan affair that goes on all of them we'll have shown us to play them which is gonNA be awesome sonus makes us sound great speakers I love shown us go to senators if you're going to buy a speaker you're crazy if you buy anything else they're worth every penny in search in their great Tommy Vitor they're worth every penny and they're cheap and they're great they're great speakers by San Jose just to put a bipartisan sheen on what was an attack on our democracy and then him writing the Senate health care bill secret I think are the TRIFECTA of Steve Most sort of anti-democratic vicious UNAMERICAN behavior we've ever seen from a leader of any party in our lifetimes what is the rationale for someone handing you the head new I think what's new is the ability to use technology to sort of exacerbated to allow them to reach into our country from so far away but you know exports save the best way to deal with these influence campaigns is to make them visible I worry that we've lost our best weapon against these attacks because we have a president we're all feeling is everyone President Obama James Komi the Clinton campaign everyone was behaving as though Hillary Clinton would win influence consciously or not by political considerations in prediction that literally everyone got wrong in so that aside I'm still remained also just a little more complicated that said I do think it's true that anything the Obama Administration did before the election would be viewed as partisan period cyberwarfare is relatively new there aren't necessarily clear rules of the road we have public policies about when will use nuclear weapons when a rules of engagement for the military this stuff is being figured out piece at Emily's European countries have devoted years to countering Russian disinformation hacking trolling setting up sputnik in our T. in their country like this is not latimer Putin for any of this behavior and the thing that I'm frightened the other thing that I can't stop thinking about is Vladimir Putin interfered with our election if you're Mitch McConnell you can see or hear or be briefed on whatever you want yeah so so we can't let Mitch McConnell off the Hook I don't know whether the response in politicized and would be maybe even not probably would be unhelpful. I do think you're right though that ultimately you had a bunch of national security experts being how to deal with this on long term how to prepare for the future prevent future hacking of our democracy that's why I think it's so hard for us to look at this in hindsight because we were all in the mentality that Hillary Hillary would win and then we deal with it and then now we're living in the the aftermath yep I have some thoughts on this so I think it's hard to forget that this was happening was behaving in that way to prune was doing was despicable that it was helping the Republicans that it was wrong that it was an interference in our sacred democratic process but at the end of the day Ah this and that this is something we could deal with after in a kind of measured response when the the reins of power handed over and there would have been serious adults at the table to talk about was enough in the in the weeks preceding the election if they should have rang the alarm more they did talk about it and it was immediately politicized and made partisan my either something feels fifty fifty or it feels like one in a million and we treated trump winning like a one in a million when it really felt more like fifty fifty and everybody inside the government real time right we are gathering intelligence for real time not just any old intelligence but if we add intelligence on Vladimir Putin's personal involvement or signing off on whatever order today that trump is pushing for a meeting with Putin next month in Germany and not just like a pull aside at a conference but like all the trappings the bells and whistles of a full diplomatic donald trump's behavior toward Russia that is not nefarious in some way there is no way to explain a man who has no principle whatsoever no consistent Halsey meeting and I don't understand how anyone could think that that's good politics let alone good policy there is no explanation for unleashed a torrent of packing and assaults on our institutions when he thought that there was an administration that care yeah right instead of washing posted when I think it's they need silver made this point that may be wrong but I think it's a really smart point which is that as human beings we kinda have to settings when it comes to odds that prize that more was not done to punish Russia after the election yes yeah and and then of course we handed the reins over to Donald Trump who has no interest in punishing heard that's about as sensitive as it gets people could literally die if those sources or methods or burn can they may be already half the prevent us from being able to do it again so that's something to be aware of and build their holding up is mostly for show anyway that he wants to meet with Vladimir Putin that he won't seem to ask a single question to any of the national security do you want anything how he remains so steadfast in his view that he should never criticize Russia that they should possibly be holding up a sanctions bill even though the ponding Russia and getting tough on them who would probably pay significant political dividends for him right I'm not sure what he's holding out for think about all the Republicans a partisan atmosphere that refuses to believe they ever occur Oh and then you have the Sean Hannity the world saying Oh deep state deep state parenting Russia's propagates believable unbelievable all right guys when we come back Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia this policy of America stick around there's more great show cels that come to him about what we're doing to prevent a future attack I mean it is mind boggling his stories all over the place right for a while he denied it was a case he said it could have been a factor in the line so yeah it's dark times Tommy it's dark out there and we'll get into your point about Putin doing this with a a president he thought would would take a hard line against us the AP coming your way positive America's brought to you by texture 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about it why don't you sit and talk to us why don't you work with us just I wasn't here in two thousand and Tim when it was past I'm understanding that basically went through the normal process went through the A- and affordable care act it's helped him have more stable finances and it's worked out very well for him but it's going to be very difficult so I'm I'm just begging them I said you know what so already be back sick of this thing is going to come out tomorrow honestly are they even on a honeymoon Janis tweeting about politics a lot so I feel like he's basically here joining us on the pod today we have West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin Senator Manchin thank you for coming on positive America thank you for having me both three aspect of our of our economy's going to be affected the rural hospitals rural clinics all of these things and I was governor you know we had to always sit down under some of the trustworthy one's going to be listed named stream media texture gives you access to not just your favorite magazines but also the latest investigative journalism US policy the cash out download it if you're a friend of the pod check it out with the other one this we're done with the other ones the cash app we love the cash APP did a John and emily get that bottle of wine you sent without telling me you fucking snake I realize from the band you know give me a break if not they're going to be paying five to one insurance can charge him almost five times the premium of a younger person if you're up to sixty four years of age we have an awful lot of elderly in nursing homes all of the hearings it went through markups it went through amendments and even Republican amendments were adopted but then still yet we couldn't get one in the public interest now what's driving this train come to the conclusion is taxes it's basically the tax rebate both bills they have a little different jersey effect I had a basement fat people anywhere could have been China hacking electric let's call that consistency I think technically it is possible that the basement wasn't but then you know with the hospitals because they had to give so much care away so much charity care we call it a disproportionate share and we'd help them every year just to make ends me now with a Medicaid nations I'm understanding of both bills they try to make him a little smoother if you will make no mistake about both bills removed all the taxes the way we he read The Washington Post story he decided to tweet out the choke line and said why isn't everyone blaming Obama never made it past tea did not read that that's where he was really long but it just unbelievable center your colleague from West Virginia Senator Capito has not yet taken a position on the bill she is one of the Republicans that stakes for West Virginia you also talked about the process and how poor it has been in terms of bipartisanship when the merits are so clear about the harm this would do to West Virginia we believe whose vote is up for grabs Have you spoken to her about this bill does she understand just how harmful this bill would be for West Virginia we've spoken about by any tax rebate or any taxes whatsoever but all nine hundred thousand we'll be affected because they have some family member that's benefiting from the plan I wanted to be bipartisan and I just think it's wrong and I'm hoping it doesn't pass we can sit down and hopefully craft good piece of legislation so you you talked about the well there's no graphic now one demographic in the state of West Virginia won't be affected not one we have an older population And you know that is why do you think that the politics aren't a no brainer for anyone representing your state vote against not been thinking about that both of you John Tommy to both of us I've been thinking very hard paid for it and it's the first tax I think that some of the super wealthy have never been able to circumvent yeah I I don't know I don't know that if you're GonNa do you do it as a group one time I don't even know where they're staying I don't keep up with that kind of thing so did you WanNa send them something or did he want to complain about it I wanted to be added to the thing that was already sent when the thousand people would get a tax rebate about five

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NutriMedical Report Show Friday Aug 16th 2019 Hour One Firing Line Wellness, Host Michelle, Dr Bill Deagle MD Healing Answers, Protocols NutriMeds Tech,

"Dr bill eagles show presented by neutral medical dot com call live eight one eight eight eight six four zero one and welcome back to the report michelle. He has some announcements. It is friday the sixteenth. We're halfway through august already cheever anywhere in the summer. Go exactly exact- luckily you put up <hes> the website for today bill that would be great and hello everyone. It's great to be here on friday specialist of the week yeah you can just put up the sail products because i put them up <hes> <hes> this week. I'm going to keep them there. Those four that you see that are on really good sale just until our big big sale comes up on on labor day two weeks away right so this is something to to look for which is we have. The fight of mineral maxon sale the alagic acid. I thought that's a good one for cancer. I've had the alley matic's the old alley max member and neutral silver spray excellent yeah yeah they're on like a real good sales so if you want to especially the three packs or even better great so it's a bit loud here today bill what's up what's up turn that donald could mess up the audio altogether. We'll see what happens and then we'll be. Oh there. How's that now. That's much better okay. That's good does in the engine room on a big ship. Okay remember we talked to brent this morning. Yes my very very dear. Friend gets talked to him all the time time and said he lives up in montana but today bill happened to be walking past my desk and you were talking with brennan. What what was his concerned. Do you remember it was concerned. Learnable d- <hes> impending war between india pakistan what's up what's going on there will the district of india's actually being shut down by military operations operations <unk> they controlled five million plus people and they've been rationing water and <hes> getting ready for nuclear war so you'll have what the west support india and maybe china support pakistan exactly they've already gave in <hes> pakistan was given sixty seven jail seventeen jets which are kind of a copy of we're joined strike fighter to the pakistanis free from china because they act in doing got our our designs for our jet and the nanday copy of actually she came to the pakistanis. The pakistanis have the most productive <hes> weapons factory in the world for producing nuclear weapons in wizar- stand in northwest. I pakistan near the pakistani afghan border. I heard brent say was that there was some fear of nuclear exchange. Yes no one's going to do a nuclear. Oh yeah they're actually in minutes of nuclear and they only have a warning a window of what toon after three minutes so you think someone's attacking them nella counterattack back but no one's that stupid no no. It's almost certain it's going to happen. That's going to affect the entire planet. Well what happened expand very quickly expand very quickly to world war but we but you know hopefully the core heads prevail because when you start something like this you're not gonna have survivors as they say it'll be like a pyrrhic victory victory the the living will envy the dead. How's that really what branch already houses neutral dine. Who's ordering some today but after he talked to you he wanted me to add keillor max to i can i can expand. If you want to expand it. What's very kind of a simple everyday not too many too big a protocol besides the new. We know the nutrient how why is it neutral dan good to have in case of prime radioisotopes come nuclear explosion ocean radioiodine as half-life of only eight days so it's gotten three or four days <hes> but if you're from destroying your mitochondria in your in your thyroid and how much would you have to take probably at least fifty drops to four times a day <hes> should be enough if there's a nuclear explosion and it can happen around the world and you can may not see it but the radiation for example right now he will should be taking it even from fukushima 'cause fukushima because she was still released radio adding take it every everyone in a lot of our listeners take neutral and that's our number one selling products and always has been everybody should taking that every every day every every time without question now the things i i'll expand it that used to kill max <hes> for removing heavy metals because there's gonna be radio toxins sorry strontium about. You can't take keeler max with your other supplements. Will you take you take it first thing in the morning at bedtime. We have to take your other minerals because going to replenish minerals that the killer extra pull up so why wouldn't you take it and let the keillor max do his job and then take your supplements later. No you take your supplements during the day and you take your killer max first thing in the morning at bedtime so that's why you have to take it away from meals taken away from other vitamins evens so you've absorbed vitamins first and then you take your killer max very first thing in the morning at bedtime. I don't get that so. I'm actually taking late. Save okay from woman to capsules in the morning. When you wake up and bedtime take your new <hes> your vitamin or max mix and minerals plus or the mono tomek minerals. We have specific ones you take you take those during the day with your food or your separately keillor max take minerals out. It takes many heavy metals ellsberg. We can remove some minerals too so you wanna make sure your topping yourself was magnesium minerals and vitamins max phyllis me i would take it in the nighttime time when i'm not eating or taking anything and then get up in the morning and take all my normal life support agency weed killer max today. I see now the other things that you need to take and same bill thinking when they said the same thing you take keeler max i in the morning at bedtime twice a day and the other vitamins very today. Now you wanna take antioxidants too because radiation bruce oxidative stress and now you could take the whole arrangement to i if you wanna take one take sullivan's plus and high does power see eighty. Okay you want to simple protocol. You want to expand it. You take all kinds of stuff for example each duplex to singled auction house retirement be one so the tax bruce island gammy plus because <hes> radiation basically is free radical load on the body. You also have have radioisotopes and you have if you're nearby you get exposure to alpha particles which aren't really a big deal <hes> they don't penetrate to the body except to your lungs for example after iraq and here she was some people open their mouth and it was very large drops called the black rain and they actually drank the black rain which also had radioisotopes and and alpha particles and that did some serious damage and they died down. We don't get much news here in america because <hes> it's very insular news is very kind of staring at the nasal fuzzy the naval of america of of <hes>. We don't look really hey what's going on in the world in terms of the economy <hes> the politics whatever and we don't really look at it very much now what's going on in hong kong and other issue. We'll talk about that in our two with hardly langer for example but there's a lot of dangerous going around the world of both economically and geopolitically in in terms of others just to this week. I had a call from one of our listeners customers very regular customer sweetheart niall but i'm not gonna say any names because what happened to her. Bill is she was moving being a great big plant like the ones i have like that great big tree one in that planter that i have by the fireplace big thing so she was moving moving that <hes> lifted up and she's around my age and she <hes> caused prolapse a bladder prolapse relapse right okay so <hes> i the only thing i knew for prolapse is college mex and you know i bet you it's very common women and don't talk about it out there because because of something that you know people just don't talk about just like what kind of mend things don't we talk about. It seems like like we do talk about men stuff a lot but that's a very common thing for women because it's not the first person that i've had a call from. That's the suffers from that. I mean what is a prolapse and how many things i have to say. It was her serve x. Another one said it was their bladder. I mean all these things coming down again. It depends on and degrees all come down to they are just wanted. Depend on the degree you can end up with was aimed basically means your uterus falls down into your lower pelvis and it can bring the bladder to it can bring you know another judases is right beside the bladder so the vatican fall down and then it could too low you don't and have the chooser controls you lose control year if it falls too low now is the battlefield if you can have actually fall so far the cervix actually which is the top op. The uterus actually pokes read through the giant. If it's more simple one it's kind of like into the body of john so that you know if you're trying to have have sexual giants occupied now by uterus and by the cervix see then you become a very short vagina <hes> you can use kegalle balls to to help exercise but the best sings only gets up first college amac's read your velvety are not gonna. That's gonna help you. Regenerate tissues on khemayes and you wanna take anyone and you wanna take designing diversity separate activate your stem cells and you wanna take the minerals vitamin or max minerals plus minerals else. You can't rebuild connective tissue. Okay <hes> then in terms of therapies. The best therapies is on. It and i don't know what other technology but that it's miraculously. We have a cases that we've actually so did but you but the thing is if you've got a really bad one tries three to six months of eagles i and the supplements and after two three months it hasn't relapsed hasn't gone back attack what other technology i like a treadmill and i love to go on the juice louis but i don't like i'm talking about for prolapse. I'm talking about just for me. I don't like a machine vibrates. Some people don't they'll not about the effect on the body in terms of exercise prosection bone and connective tissue building and pumping airline packs and so under nothing compared to the side you can exercise and get some cardiac oh pulitzer treadmill but ten minutes of the aerobics on the sonic lettuce golden hour and a half plus of aerobics. We have another customer that used yoga yoka. There's particular yoga and plots that are specifically geared takes six months to a year of continual exercise exercise specifically geared to getting what i would usually tell people to take the supplements which are gonna repeat again. College max red velvet. I'll come aisin. Listen the minimum maximum rose plus and then do exercise at least two or three times a day with little people bokor and f- after a month it has settled contact me and we'll get your sonic life. The average person on sonic life doesn't take a year and a half it takes four to six weeks and your yield no surgery needs in order to six weeks if they want to. They can look up for the yoga and the yeah but that will take a long time and and and and the other thing because aren't they like with dollars. We can lisa's though couple. I'm just saying i know you're listening to me out. There and i know you just love the fact that i've got my scottish blood and i'm always thinking of money because against what you're always thinking of money out there too and i know what you want to be a lot cheaper than asana if you don't heal within three three to six months of bodies ladies and the supplements surgeon. You don't eat actually search yeah. You need to stop messing around. See i do integrated medicine. There's a place for surgeons and i've actually done the to do suspension procedure with gynecologist training. They do just pull it all back up and pin it up there. Yeah they've been using two things you have ligaments. This would not muster and you've got smooth muscles found under voluntary control. The thing about the science is actually contracts the smooth muscle ligaments and pulls everything up so that you don't even close hernia so if you've got a local hernia or groin hernia or even tightening up your skin around your neck. 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I just wonder if i'm a doctor 'cause it's legible dry cough unfortunately clean the medical treatments. Remember what i do here. In functional medicine is not just like biology. It's shannon's integrating medicine surgery and radiology and taught. What first thing you do is you do. Sinus xrays okay size. X rays look funky. You see an e._n._t. Specialist down to put an initiative scope in with fiberoptic to you. Look around and see if you have polyps or if you've got a block to the punktem between different a areas like the turnaround determinants where the maximum scientists drains upper towards the middle turban uh-huh then the next thing you do is those are present. You can make do a turban ectomy or an entrust me to open up the openings and the <unk> junk in there. I don't like antibiotics patchwork neuter nine alison managers over the nutrient twenty-six why into defense you wanna get your your sinuses the sign who falls inside air powder and neutral nine four times a day nella. 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Just by purchasing are supplements and that way you support a doctor bill and if you want to donate a bit because we have veterans and people can't afford supplements we try to provide provide some free or massively reduced price so there's donation button by the consultation so we can help that way too so we got an email from ritchie here this week back and he's asking says may i ask for a protocol. I'd like to get a list of things that i should take to detox my body with the basic neutral medical items <hes> i'm praying for the world and my family harvest natural organic connie from our honeybees and i'd love to send you and your family some jurors much blessing blessing and one love one love the way hey i like. Let's detox. You're going to detox heavy metals and toxic alexa chemicals and you have to block free radicals or stree- areas you gotta cover so the first one heavy metals killer macura mail to capsules choices recap choice today from email email to twice a day morning and bedtime and you have to take vitamins and minerals plus. You're doing that then. Also you can add ultralight which is not acid wash so it's fifteen drops in water three times a day. You can add to that <hes> dismissal pathway support with bio l. v._r. Car it must be twelve and super foley and the most powerful of all of the key leading a methyl support is missile is called sam ethel s. a. m. e. t. h. Way which is and so if we know you have heavy metals okay and you're trying to read to pull them up. Command says something just from reading this and understanding and he's i'm trying to become part of the neutral medical family. I have a really really nothing lead my advice but i have a really really easy way to get your detoxing all your vitamins all your minerals and everything in the perfect balance and that's in our life support and then our life support but you also get alagic acid canned syria get green tea basic it gives you a basic support also by the way has faced to detox for methylation grounded asians ovation's. You're right but if you're eating a simple answer if you're if richie you're looking for something simple for you and your family and it comes chocolate vanilla and trust me it is the best testing chocolate on the planet in the vanilla is right there with it is so good. I don't even like vanilla vanilla bill no but they sure know with ryan and the boys there know what they're doing. Okay let me explain what i'm talking about is. If you have an actual heavy metal issue or toxin issue if you just tend to general detox we do is use the life support and maybe takes a power supplies and detox would probably add to sell defense plus out <music> now if you're trying to do a full talks which i'm what i'm saying which is already covered which governor now for chemicals i would add the following for chemical detox. Zeno estrogen detox right bojan help semi-final gets rid investor jin for manitou does yes well. It's a it gets robbed. Woman takes it pulls out the zeno toxins because there's a lot of toxic chemicals in bogota the removes toxic chemicals lock because the estrogen receptor so chemicals in rock on receptor two or three hundred times more than even estrogen receptor it pulls those toxic chemicals and not your estrogen okay then for chemical detox as well. <hes> you wanna make sure that you're taking <hes> support which bio v._r. Seminal and a sorry power problem russell b twelve in super bowl eight <hes> and i would for chemical detox would also try to kind of take offense plus okay and free radicals each duplex russillo oxygen and ultrasound going to be one for getting proxy radical. You wanna take tax silence for natural proxy radical gimme plus okay next. I'm going to make this person anonymous the next email good afternoon dr deal so i'm a big fan of your radio show than listening for eight years. Well you are a godsend fountain of advice knowledge on so many levels thank you i use recommend and also give away your products to everyone. I feel may benefit for mutual suitable so that's that's really yeah. They're they're basically a nutraceutical goalie vangelis by the way how many people out there take care of their families their friends and everything you see them mortaring so much on my gosh for yourself. You sound a little thing. I don't know if you've ever scripture today but the thing is when we give people helping their physical health that god is with us to be with you also not only physically which virtually continue i'm seeking a protocol for the herpes virus some thirty three year old male one hundred fifty five four hundred seven healthy. I stay active and not on any medication just on your nutraceutical for wellbeing any advice to be greatly appreciated. Give a corporate. I fifteen drops in water three times a day l. all semantic today and neutral defense which will kill viral caps into the virus and how long would you do that to get rid of the herpes two months and you you can go back and actually if you wanna be fancy you can do a blood test and see the disappearance of the virus that you could actually check the virus present for months and and you can actually go down to maintenance for a couple of months half dosage for a couple of months but i would say can you take what <hes> basically jeanine fifteen drops in water your dad's day today and neutral defense <hes> two caps three times a day the virus okay then i would drop the dosage half that dosage for two months after that but you're viruses gone by that time we heard dear friend penny up there in montana lots of lots of friends and montana right. Hello dr bill michelle. I now need to test for the presence of cancer cells. As i've completed the breast cancer protocols i've purchased from you going several weeks beyond the testing labs which one would you recommend <hes> she mentioned so oncle lab and in boston belt and probably interact caller back this morning and here's a summary basically she previously had an lab up test with shoulder was abnormally. She went on our supplements. You didn't do chemotherapy or any other treatment at all nothing and ourselves breast cancer and cancer shrunk dramatically yes with our supplements only nothing else okay no cancer vaccine dendritic vaccine. Nobody cancer therapy g._m. Af just are supplements and she's she's so happy because he sees doesn't have insurance. She wants to basically just do the test again. I said well it's expensive to the task collapse but that's where he previously did. There's another lab have available under jersey. I can refer to those are the two labs i respect here in north america that are good and have acker testing and measures fillets levels as well as the amass test david's from oklahoma. I need a list in in order of most important of for neutral medical remedies to be used in the event of a rattlesnake bite on either human or dog in a survival scenario r._e._o. Not one where there's local hospital or doctor available to treat you it is said to be the most common method of death <hes> from a rattlesnake snake by its hema toxic and collapses circulatory system about disrupting the integrity of the blood vessels so a bill he goes on to say something about she's talking about a third of the total blood circulation being lost in tissues and rattlesnake blood is terrible able to have rattlesnakes here. There was one in my yard. Ooh a baby snake. I forgot to tell you guys about this. This was about a month ago and our landscape guy was out there in the worst of the baby rattlers because they don't know to let go like they just caught on and they release. He's more venom rattlesnake. He held it up and he asked me what to do. Well i had the same an to kill it because i don't want want him to that snake biting anything that was horrible and never seen my rattlesnakes city and san diego so she's looking out the kitchen both watching this guy chop the head off to other protocol here anymore but my story though i wanna tell protocol first off. You have to understand then what israel's think about <hes> by two. It's not like kuma dan or or a blood-thinning agent actually damages blood vessels. Okay the two things are going to help you most ravana way to capsules mink damage them so they leak like crazy so your capillaries and other things you leak basically all entire body blood blood vessels throughout your body. Okay casinos the snake bite. You goes right through your whole blood seven seconds. It's gone through one heartbeat. Nobody it's now so what you do is how does piracy and vein away are the two things idled piracy were released ten twelve capsules boom right away drank okay and at at least two to four capsules a vein away and you could open those up and put it in a drink and the thing is it's the damage the blood vessels that does a problem that actually causes them to leak like crazy. Okay okay piracy will turn off the cotonou cascade interference to that affects the intrinsic or extrinsic blood cassidy's. The primary thing is damaged vessels. Okay i have a question though you know you see on these western movies where they suck out the venom or they tie it off. You know turnkey. The turnkey awesome does <unk> gentlemen. I say you got your head bitten by a rattlesnake you out there like that. Landscaper an ideal thing would be a little suction cup wanting that you could actually put trek new orleans area by the amazon right and what you do is you put the section cup over the area then suck the area the pull the venom under the area right and the first thing i'd be doing and then you can have a little turnkey tourniquet proximal to go back to your general circulation. He's going to come through the veins. You're you know if the baby and the rest you will want to put your turkey above it up toward your elbow this he'd subtlety the pollution. Okay you take idols piracy in vain away and i would also take cell defense plus because they the two merrick or it could ruin is always powerful ralph's kind of society cancer of your own body because damage just like dissect with sunlight when you get a sunburn. It's not the sun that burns you drone. Immune cells released site of kinds of damage your skin so when you get blistering zone. It's not the son that doesn't it's. It's your own cells in the same way. As when a cancer spreads generate cited kind so we can actually invade so it's actually sitting molecules that actually opened up the gate and kind of clobber your immune cells so they can't fight cancer like naga leaves for example which viruses bacteria in cancer could generate so you have to learn how the battlefield works okay so with snake soothe your blood vessels leak like crazy and they can damage your blood pathways so you want to turn it off with high dose policy in vain away and sullivan's plus a next bilas bob from maryland <hes> hi dr phil. I'm sixty seven years old and for quite a few years. I've had increasing symptoms of b._p._h. Which the prosthetic effort via i've been taking various products designed to alleviate but nothing has been effective my first p._s._a. Test was over twenty years ago and was one point nine quite a few laters years later. It was two point nine nine three point nine where i don't know what he's talking about here general p._s._a. If you do a free combined which is more accurate. He said it's eight point four high tortula. Here's what the needs to do yesterday after a free and combined p._s._a. which all insurance carriers cover and it'll tell you with benign prostate cancer if it looks abnormal like it's more likely president can't do tramps rectal ultrasound and needle biopsy optus in the biopsy to a pathologist under electron microscopy to see the carrier type his cancer you do high-speed c._t. Scannon and a pet scan within forty eight hours soc- spit. I don't recommend ever radiation treatment. I'd ever recommend conventional chemo. 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Make you did an interview with some radio over in israel shire somebody member that what he did send a bunch of questions that i thought one of his questions was good that he asked you and that was about the swine flu in the avian few hot flu pandemics. You know we've been dealing with over the past few the years and everything and i was wondering what you should say that we should have him earth survival packets or whatever listed to keep survival every day in case something comes through what are there any big threats right now and if so eh you recommend <hes> yeah. There's <hes> we've gotta remember. Most of these pandemics were originated laboratory as part of a bioweapon program southern. We're like the one thousand nine hundred fluids accidental. They're trying to make a typhus vaccine. In pigs had flu in humans it flew and the recombinant when injected the typhus vaccine our troops suit in spain and then they died from the spanish flu. The call spanish luca wasn't routing spain originated in fort lupton kansas interesting resting now see any general. Are there any threats right now member here in san diego. We had a few deaths from the flu every we have. We have a out of season them summer like flu that hit the southern states to california and southern states and so's east united states. The flu is getting more aggressive. Today i hear you calling it. H one n someone or something when flew him oh yeah but we also have a particularly dangerous one in china right now that could could come here and they often originate in china and when they do their because it used drugs already over there a lot of them they're deaf and drug resistant and not only have the flu. We've got ebola. There's a new super super bowl of going out and it doesn't seem to be very resistant to whatever the conventional treatments are and it's breaking out and exploding over there and china over in africa africa okay we also have of course <hes> zico virus which is spreading and zico virus itself quite toxic. There's fifteen base pair changed from the previous one and i think it was actually modified in laboratory because they're doing all kinds of research bio. There's a laboratory in britain was working on zeka and also laboratory in here. You're in new england. <hes> we're playing zieger virus. What's good to have. I just want to know that i've got something to take should said well. We have mentioned career anti-graft taking defense. Everyday won't stop it. Oh okay neutral event is going to help with viruses are viruses. It'll help to do make the inaugural dosage necessary to in fact too much higher but it's the flu so if you take the neutral events every day the dosage that could infect. You'll be have to be a lot higher to get you in fact affected first place. I said okay so you wanna take a neutral line. If you have ezekiel break alison neutra silver in twenty six why neutral events yes and then idols power see will block viruses as well. I take a lot of that every day right. Which is why you're not getting sick now. The person gets food poisoning six times a year in america the average sometimes more or less well they ended up with either diarrhea cramps or whatever <hes> or vomiting and they don't realize actually had food poisoning but the world is primed for <hes> for not only pandemics happen just because international travel but also because of bioweapons for example sample loop bio preparation program source north of moscow was handed over with scientists to tehran and to syria so vera get a war with iran or syria. We're very likely going to see the russian ancient russian weapons back report ninety-nine released by the iranians so <hes> ah the likelihood of a serious pandemic either spontaneously because he international travel which you know <hes> or the release of every strange rage bioweapon is getting more likely year and we want to have your nyack n ninety five masks or block the virus in the airborne and our defense wipes which will also kill all luke pathogens off on contact better than any cleaning agent you get from the store by the way our defense waves nontoxic ready creighton from athabasca alberta alberta canada doctor bill just an update in a couple of questions because he was in communication with your few months ago bill about t._i. And you started him on protocol and he's just watch know that everything he said is normal actually have some excellent so he's going on to say that <hes> he said and then he was saying he went to his doctor right and he's got a clear bill healthier right right of course the doctor was saying take aspirin. He said i declined as my father had bleeding ulcers from aspirin. Aspirin is useless stopping he it was so he likes he's got the cardiovasc- they'll make a prom and all that good stuff yep. Bill next is greg for washington. State's just wanted to clarify verify your protocol for p. Shia my hair is just getting thinner. I'm fifty seven and is your wellness protocols. <hes> up to date for i'm sitting here wants to probably not but i can summarize your farm. You can use the civil hair tonic on your scalp two blocks of female the male receptor you can use college max early council twice a day. You can take are on commission and we <hes> you can use lumine photon vote on the scalp on frequency of four skin which three at least thirty minutes three or four times a day you also have peptides can help me too but <hes> that's the main core protocol and it's very often. It's the male hormone receptor. That jetson hops over here. Talk you putting your scalp at least twice three times. Today's rub it in and that will block the male receptor so the silencing of the hair follicle itself has caused by the mail receptor turning out to jean next is annabel annabel from alabama greetings michelle. I just wanted to ask skipped code for pure water systems working. The neutral medical website says there's a code it says ten percent off and do you know what the code is and it still works well. If you go through the lincoln you don't have to put it into enjoy their annabel's you go to <hes> the products right the prime go to neutral medical and go to buy shop by stop by many shot by products and then you go down alphabetically to p for pure water and you click on it and whichever product that you picked there air that you like from pure water systems whether you want to counter above counter or under the sink or whatever happens to be just click on and when you're checking out the neutral man in you tier-i and then m._e._d. Neutral made the journey populated is already in there and they'll take ten percent off for you right there. Yeah yeah it does it better. We also even filters and if you're if you had drafted into the perfectly to the website you can put the go-to nutrient and nuclear. I am medial so get ten percent but you go through are linked to best way to do it marion from boston. She wants inst- to say boston. Massachusetts usually don't say the city but there's lots of miriam's out there. I'm sure <hes> well. My last order got here all the way to boston just three days that's right. The priority males great to three days. We send out everything that's over town. We've been doing that bill. <hes> thanks. I'm so happy. Is there a particular protocol for taking the neutral silver as it morning or night empty stomach or with food. Take it anytime the neutral could take. I would take it. I would take it before you eat or in the middle of the day or when you're not taking something else who doesn't bind something else really really had taken out anytime but usually it's digging away from food is what i would do even five or ten minutes and you can do it by the we have hills spray bottle of which it also gives the oral spray and drops we can put in your ir. You don't have to be with you. Take it with food. <hes> there's a well. It's not as likely but it may get bound to the food but better to be using it. You know just before like a couple minutes. Even when you spray it in your mouth like yeah you wanna take at least four or five minutes they wouldn't spray it in your mouth to your buccal mucosal exactly or or you swallow it and it goes down to or inhalant like goes into your lungs and help secure the basket cells in only restri- bronchials. She's also asking you about caffeine. I really love my coffee but i can't live without it though i'd rather not you don't have to stop caffeine <hes> she said i did. I hear you say that a while ago that wind his congenial. There's and i shouldn't have any. I'm not against what we're in. Toronto depends on it depends on which way you have though if a wind stimulatory. It's got congenial even other alcohols if it's triple distilled. It's very where like whiskey for example. It's probably doesn't have containers or methanol or something else in it so the the key issue is if you get a wine. It's cleaner is not going to stimulate you. Have you ever worn. The stimulatory almost always got conveners but she has check out your minds. That guy right appropriately defined the actually the simpler in younger wines are better than the ones that are age longtime jeans because people actually get high because they get stimulated mutated in wine or alcohol. It's like a stimulant taking. I hit a crack cocaine. People don't realize that the containers in alcohol stimulate your brain the dopamine receptor after and so we get regular wine ray young wine they can you like luca. Bogle doesn't have garbage it. Is we need to really advanced wine. It's a three-day-old or an alcohol drink. That's genius for example. Cognac has got a lot of containers. That's why when you take on your actually can be impaired up to three days after you drink yokels. 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Showed av block and i don't know which snap votes referring to h._o._v. block means you get a heart block calcification of conduction pathways so you wanna reduce free radicals and you wanna reverse offers calcification so cardiovasc- for female to capsules to three capsules price today at least full indicate to do capsules twice a day omega supreme green pro cookie ten supreme two soft gels twice a day <hes> then you want to reverse a calcification with power see at least three capsules twice today and the full uh-huh waiting k. to reverse it <hes> and we want to improve the conduction pathways with the vast cara carnitine <hes> catabola twice today and the cook premium ubiquonol cokie <hes> regular over time you can also transfer looming photon on the heart which isn't infrequency number four and you can actually reverse calcification <hes> because basically vitamin k to reverse calcification the conduction bundles along with the other things. We're recommending to restore the country the conjul energy or capitalists. We call it because it's a minute. Conjugal dysfunction causes calcification nations of the conduction pathways kind of quickly here. We're running short a time vanessa for minnesota. She says she needs your protocol for threat arthritis degeneration in her left breath me right and she wants to know painful bill and affecting everyday activity and islam extra capital today are three x two capitals twice a day joint performance intended for each two capsules choice today <hes> cocoon creamed every two to four hours on around the knee and and they can actually you could well. If you wanna get regeneration you also need ed. Read your velvet. At least you council twice a day and uncle mason and we actually have regenerative credits peptides. We have peptides electric generator cartilage. <unk> joined performance start well with okay yeah ah cloudy on an email you're anti age max's krousar certain i want to order it and please tell me what does chris do and what will help anti the h. l. to get rid of free radicals and also <hes> the the a._d._h._d. Accolades you're telling me at ten on the chromosomes and it helps to lakes and the life that lasts van dramatic andrea. What else is it at this is. I don't have the oldest radio on the top of my head but it's all anti-aging listeners expert. Yes all anti leasing kills electoral telomere it works with her neutrality and also was called air or super knocks. Go ahead. God bless you. Thanks for listening to next friday and bills here. Who's on next bill okay. Thank you wonder woman. Okay robert holland. The bill space call k. batman wonder woman. 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Sept. 11, 2019: 'The Story Of 9/11'; John Bolton's Departure

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Sept. 11, 2019: 'The Story Of 9/11'; John Bolton's Departure

"This message comes from here and now sponsor indeed. If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash. NPR podcast from NPR and Wvu are I'm Robin when young I'm Jeremy Hobson. It's here now this morning at nine eleven observance at the Pentagon president trump spoke about the terrorists who attacked the US eighteen years ago oh today and if for any reason they come back to our country we will go wherever they are and use power the likes of which the United States has never used before and I'm not even talking about nuclear power. They will never have seen anything like what will happen to them. Well also last night. The president tweeted big night for the Republican Party. After Republican. Dan Bishop narrowly won that special election in a Republican stronghold stronghold in North Carolina. Let's bring in our political strategists to look at all of this with us from Washington. Bill Press the Democrat this week High Bill High Robin Hi Jeremy Hello Alice Low alot because Alice you are referring to his l stewart WHO's here with us in the studio. She's the Republican and Alice. We can congratulate you because your party's leader. President and trump last night tweeted out while you're on CNN. Thank you for your nice words. Well thank you and let me just say this. I it was a good night for the Republican can party last night in North Carolina the two victories in the congressional races. I was talking about those great races and needles to say the president was happy that I was talking thing about. Gop Success North Carolina did the president tweet about you last night. I didn't see that one fidelity but what I want to know is why was he watching. CNN Eh always watches CNN and he he loves to hate CNN. Look here's the great thing about CNN. They have voices from all sides they will they. We have strong voiced republicans strong voice. Democrats and they are a great showcase of people that support trump and those that do not well look talk about enough about CNN here we are and we're Carolina and let's talk about North Carolina because the president was excited and there was this win but Democrats are pointing out that he won the ninth district in North Carolina by twelve points in two thousand sixteen Dan Bishop last night the Republican again backed by trump won by under five thousand boats. Isn't this alice us not great news for Republicans. It could be better without a doubt and the the end of the day. The reality is the Republicans won and you know what you call. The person the congressional candidate that wins the race by two points the winner congressman and that is the truth and the the the important thing here is that Republicans were motivated. Democrats for motivated and they got out and this was a this was a good sign that we were able to hold that seat ideally ideally it would have been by a larger margin but the the A win is a win and we will take that how do you see it bill because there was some there was some worry as as Robin mentioned in that this was not great news for Republicans because especially among suburban women that the Republican did not do well. I would make one point I do. I hope that Donald Trump tweets are about me some time but I hope he attacks me doesn't all right. I didn't make Nixon's enemies list. I'd like to Donald Trump now. On North Carolina. Look this is like having to fight and spend millions and millions of dollars to win a congressional seat in Utah. I mean Republicans should not have had to fight this hard for this. I think it's worry should be troubling to them than in a deep red district as robin point out. Donald Trump carried by twelve points. They barely early squeaked out a two point victory so they they got him. Look at what that means for two thousand twenty and on top of that why are fifteen republicans have already announced not running for re election. They see that the landscape is not favorable to them because of Donald Trump in two thousand twenty having said that I wanna tell my fellow. Democrats don't break break your arm patting yourself on the back because I ran for office once in California. I lost about two points. Guess what I was a loser. The other guy was a winner so a loss is a loss you gotTA. Have you have to accept that to follow up on bills point. The lessons learned last night should have really been to the Democrats because they cannot continue to nominate people that are strong for the the base and motivate the base in the primary but do not energizing an independent. Democrat McCreevy is quite a moderate and in just kind of stayed away from a lot of the topics medicare for all that the presidential candidates are talking about bill is that is that a lesson for Democrats I I think Democrat he was a good candidate in the first time around by the way in the second time around again you gotta give him credit for turning a safe. Republican district into into a real fight to the finish. I don't blame Don mccreadie or say. There's a listener. I really do think nonpartisan that the lesson here is for the Republicans that they have a big challenge having lost suburban women loss loss suburbs. Donald Trump's ratings falling they. It's not gonNA be automatic that they they hold onto the Senate or the White House twenty twenty and I think this is a warning signal in North Carolina. Okay I want to talk about some other big news this week which is John Bolton President in trump's third national security advisor in three years to leave the administration here our reporters asking the Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin about it yesterday national national security team absolutely not that's the most ridiculous question I've ever heard of Alice when you look back at previous administrations the last several several I I noticed that Bill Clinton and George W Bush only had two national security visors in eight years. There's been so much turnover especially on foreign policy in the the trump administration. Does it worry you. We all can recognize the fact that there's been tremendous turnover in this White House but a lot of times we all know Donald trump is his national national security adviser. He is as economic adviser. He is is foreign policy adviser like it or not. That's the way it is happy. Bolton has gone my position position on this is the president is the president and we knew there were differences with regard to foreign policy one more hawkish one more dovish and someone was going to go and it certainly was not the president and I view this as not a matter of if Bolton was going to be forced out but when and yesterday was the day a bill to Democrats have a problem with this because you can say yeah. This is now looking for the fourth national security adviser but on the other hand. Democrats were very much against the the Hawk John Bolton and here is president trump jettisoning him right. I do agree with one point that Donald trump is his own national security advisor but he's also his own press secretary zone defense secretary. The Secretary of State is on Chief of staff. I mean that's that should trouble all of us unless you think he is some absolute genius who knows more about everything than anybody which which is not but on Bolton you know. I must admit I'm torn on this look. I think it was a horrible horrible higher I think we're all fortunate. All Americans are lucky that he's out there because I am. We're lucky that he didn't take us to war against Iran and North Korea while he was there so I don't think we have to lament his loss but at the same time I have to say I believe John. Bolton was right. The idea of making a deal with the Taliban van with the Afghan government was not involved in and then inviting the Taliban to Camp David was outrageous and Bolton was right to protest that he was he won won that battle it cost him his job and you Jeremy and Robin Alice. You'd never thought you'd hear me say this but I agree with what rush limbaugh said yesterday that who ever suggested inviting the Taliban Camp David should be fired. Unfortunately the person who suggested Donald Trump clearly marked that tape. I think it's also important Mnuchin made a good point yesterday that the foreign policy advisers and foreign policy of this presidency isn't isn't based on just one person and certainly wasn't Bolton and the president in my view has brought around a good group of advisers any relies on several legs of the Foreign Policy Halsey stool which includes diplomacy military economic intelligence and that is critical. I it is not just a one size fits all he looks at all the various tools we we have in the foreign policy toolbox and I view he has been using them all well. It's just point out that this is according to axios this morning. This is number fifty. One of the top White House aides fired by Donald Dry. This administration is amateur hour. It's a total mess. It's no way to run a railroad. It was interesting interesting MNUCHIN. was there yesterday because as you point out Alice economic policy has been very important to trump's foreign policy whether it's sanctions or the trade war etc I just WANNA ask about the debate tomorrow night the Democrats Ten of them are going to be on the stage in Houston for another debate. There's going to be the first time that Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden. two of the front front runners have are going to be on the same stage bill What are you watching for tomorrow off well. I'm going to be there in the hall tomorrow and in the Spin Room what I'm watching is I. I want to really see Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders on the same say so far you know they've made nice each other gonNA. They're going to have to show their differences number one tomorrow. I'm also going to I WANNA watch the two of them versus Joe Biden because the real contest among Democrats is we talked a little bit about this before excitability excitability that you've got with Bernie Elizabeth Warren versus electability with people see as a safe steady secure Joe Biden and I think that's going to be in full display way tomorrow night. My prediction is after tomorrow night. We'll be down to six or eight. Canada's well real quick people bristle when you say electability and Elizabeth Warren just edged out Joe Biden by just one point in an just one poll in New Hampshire. People get real quick in the minute. We have Alice. Will you watching for more more a lot of the same because they are very similar on the policies policies with regard to to climate change with regard to a gun control with regard to pro choice initiatives. I do see Biden is someone that does show a little bit more of the moderate voice but on this issue of WHO's wearing the polls the NPR poll that came out. I found interesting that shows Warren on the rise Biden is holding up Biden still maintains a good steady lead in the national polls and in the early states which is critical but these time on the stage when they are head to head like they will oh be that is where the rubber meets the road and is a good chance for warranty make up some ground or potentially Biden to widen the gap even further that is Alice Stewart Republican Cannon Bill Press the Democrat who will be in the Spin Room as the author of spin this longtime ago. Thank you for that there. You go to plugs on the show. Thank you bet thank you today. Marks the eighteen th anniversary of the nine eleven attacks when Al Qaeda terrorists hijacked eject four passenger planes and crashed them on purpose to into the one hundred ten story towers of the World Trade Center in New York one into the Pentagon and one into a field in Pennsylvania after passengers fought back to keep the plane from crashing into another target possibly the US Capitol building in all nearly three thousand nine people died journalists. Mitchell Zukhorov spent years researching those stories as well as the stories of others whose lives were forever altered. If not ended on nine eleven in the book is called Fall and rise the story of nine eleven. We spoke when it was published earlier this year. Here's part of that conversation one of the connick images that people have in their mind from nine eleven is the second plane hitting the tower in New York the second tower to be hit. This was is about what fifteen minutes or so after the first tower was hit when the first tower was hit. It's clear from this book that people did not not think that it was a commercial plane. First of all also people that were in that tower that was hit didn't think that they had to evacuate why they were in some cases you you nailed it. They were being told not to evacuate in both the towers. Some people were being told to do you know it's it's over in the other tower people to know what what was happening and when the plane cut through it knocked out the telecommunication system within the building that would have allowed people down in the basement and in the first floor floor to communicate to them so the confusion began immediately and people's some of them stayed in place for well over an hour. They didn't know there was a ticking clock for for the the the survival of the building and one of the things that's so difficult to read in this book is the the conversations that were going on between people that were in the high hi floors with people on the ground and in almost every case the person on the ground who is trying to help them is saying you're going to be okay. We're on our way up and of course they weren't okay in the end and you can even tell that the person on the ground knew that they were going to be okay. Yeah I spoke to a number of the Port Authority police officers who were the dispatchers dispatchers that day who who took those calls and they they're haunted by them still and they are recorded calls so I can hear them I can I can see the transcripts and their remarkable go through trying to keep these people com- trying to hope for the best but there is no way up and there's no way out you also talk about somebody who is stuck stuck in an elevator in the World Trade Center and eventually made it out okay yeah. This is an incredible story. Chris Briggs young goes there. He's a messenger. He's not supposed to be the in the in the towers he works uptown. He's delivering some packages. He gets back on the elevator to come down. Almost the instant the plane hits the building and and he spends the next hour and a half trapped alone in an elevator. singing show tunes to himself trying to keep his his courage up nine idea idea what's going on is the last guy in New York to know what happened and he's in the middle of it wow and so the story of Chris Briggs Young is is I think just he to me. He's almost like a proxy oxy for all of us. What would we have done if you're trapped in a box and smoke coming in what do you do. There's also an image that sticks in my mind from this book of somebody who came across a woman with severe burns and basically had to just leave her there on the plaza and the plazas exactly it's an emt he comes across New York emt and this woman you know the the they're using triage tags to say whether somebody can be helped her can't and this is at what point this is after for the the second plane is struck and he's just arriving on the plaza and she was still alive and she was speaking to him but he knew she was beyond help and he had to go find people who can triage who he could actually help and he and I spoke and it's something that he'll never get past. The other thing is the first firefighter who died on September eleventh died because somebody jumped out of the building and him that's right. Danny Sir is there. He's among those first first responders and he's just a kind of a superstar among his his fellow firefighters. He's a football player. He's part of the F. D. N. Y. team and he's he's going towards the building and somebody drops and takes his life. I have to say I I went to visit the nine eleven museum in New York last year ear and the thing that brought me to tears in the exhibit was the part about the people who jumped out of the towers. There were so many of them. Yes one of those stories that I tell us in a woman named Elaine gentle who we know some some of those people we don't know who jumped in who didn't or who fell and who didn't we're fairly certain that Elaine left the building and she was on a phone call to her husband Jack who was an administrator to college in New Jersey and do they had time to exchange inch professions of love and hope and what she wanted for their sons and she was enormously brave she after the plane hit she went up higher in the building to evacuate an I team that had been there that day so the story of Elaine gentle is someone who who took her fate into our own hands and her husband husband and her family have have made their peace with it. I thought was really powerful. You also remind us of the story just on a positive note if there is one industry and there are some positiveness in this book of the miracle of Stairwell beat. Yes tell us about that. What happened sure one group of firefighters was ladder. Six was a unit in New York led by an remarkable guy named Jay Jonas and Jay Jonas was a fire captain and he had this team of just of guys half dozen guys and they're sent into the north tower and they're going up and they're walking stair by stair and when the South Tower Collapses Jay realizes I gotta get my guys Zada here quick and on the way down the paused help a woman Josephine Harris who has been injured who was exhausted who can't go any farther but they slow their the exit to help Josephine and as they're going farther and farther down through the building to get to the lobby the north tower starts to collapse. They're inside the centre. Stairwell Stairwell and they just huddled together hold on for dear life and the building literally peels away around them just keeping a few floors of stairwell will be which is exactly where they are and Jay realizes that having slowed to help Josephine ended up saving all of them because because had they been in the lobby in the lobby was completely destroyed. Had he been just outside. They would have been wiped out as well so truly was a miracle. You also also write in this book of course about what happened at the Pentagon and I wanNA talk about that a little bit. We don't hear as much about what happened to the Pentagon. As what happened at the World Trade Center but you write that the area that was hit at the Pentagon actually had just undergone renovation it had new windows that were blast resistant that may have actually helped save some mm people absolutely the the wedge Pentagon his broken into wedges and this particular wedge had been renovated. They're worried about thirty eight hundred people in there and if you can imagine the force I wish the impact of flight seventy seven would have been shrapnel and glass would've poured through the place had those blast proof windows and some of the other. It was almost like a teflon baked into the walls. the tragedy was still tremendous but you're right. We end up overlooking the Pentagon a little bit because of of the scale the magnitude of what happened in New York was was greater but what happened at the Pentagon was was extraordinary including acts of heroism acts of of self sacrifice what stands out to you in terms of an act of heroism at the Pentagon. Here's a guy who I think every American should know a guy named Dave Tarantino. He's a navy doctor who was not near where the blast happened whether the attack happened and he would have been a hero had he just gone to to the center courtyard and triage patients it's but he goes in to the the most heavily damaged part of the Pentagon and he finds a guy named Jerry Hinson who is trapped by his desk. He's literally pinned against the wall and his desk his his face looks like a freight Halloween fright mask it so squeezed and Dave crawls into into this burning room and rolls on his back and lifts hundreds of pounds with a leg lift off. Jerry Henson pulls also Jerry across his body and Jerry Hinson is the last injured survivor to escape the Pentagon before that part of the building collapse also worth noting by the way that if the plane had hit on the other side of the Pentagon some of the senior military leadership of this country would have been killed including the secretary of defense. Who was there lose their meeting. That's exactly right right we should talk about one more thing which is what happened in. Shanksville Pennsylvania to tell that story as well from the perspective of people on the plane but also people on the ground yeah people people do I think no to some extent that would happen on flight ninety three the the forty heroes of ninety three who rose up and fought back to try to save themselves and ultimately ended up saving saving untold numbers of people either the capital or the White House was the destination but there in Shanksville and tell the story largely through Terry Shafer WHO's the volunteer fire fire chief there who had been planning for something his whole life and he thought it might be a pile up on the Pennsylvania turnpike and he he races toward the scene expecting to find casualties expecting to find people he can help and so the story of the people in Shanksville and how they came together and sort of embraced the the families of the fight ninety three victims is I think one of the most beautiful stories I've ever heard. Why did you want to to spend so much time in writing this book looking back at that day. It was too important not to I it. It becomes a responsibility when you realize that there are so many people who don't have a human connection to the story the way I think it is sometimes nine eleven is becoming reduced. a story reduced to numbers nine and eleven four planes nineteen hijackers three thousand people killed but you don't connect names to it and I felt if I it could do that if I could give people the story as it unfolded through the people that they could connect to then. I would have done something worthwhile that it is Mitchell Zykov whose new book is called. Fall and rise the story of nine eleven. It's an incredible look at what happened on that day. Thank you so much for coming winging. Thank you German this week. California lawmakers passed a bill to put strict limits on the GIG economy it requires companies to hire most workers as employees with benefits rather than as as independent contractors two of the companies most affected by the change will be Uber and lift who lobbied unsuccessfully to be exempted from the bill. Mike Isaac is a technology reporter for the New York Times. We spoke with last week about his new book. Super pumped the battle for Auber. He joins us now with reaction to this news. Mike what are the implications of what just it happened in California for Uber and other companies like it yeah you know this is a really big moments there have been a number of different cases that have been gone in court but this is a moment that it really makes that small status change much larger now former independent contractors not just companies like verb but really Korea any sort of GIG economy thing INSTA- cart door dash and then other other sort of contract labor positions can start getting these worker protections actions that essentially had not had before whether it's insurance or different benefits that that were just missing minimum wage vacation days etc I've seen that some have said that this is going to destroy Uber and lift business model. Is that your sense well. This is definitely a big scary moment for are these companies right now there furiously working behind the scenes to try to offer a kind of hybrid model in which they would not quite be full employees voice their via the drivers that work for them but perhaps they would have at least some added benefits like a floor on what wage they would get per hour or kind of driver. Advocate is what they called it so like a quasi union but at the same time these these companies are really scared because their entire model is predicated on not paying. Maybe what will add up to twenty or thirty percent more in costs to people who drive did what is your sense of how people will react to this. I know there are some some who believe right now that of course this makes sense. If people are working basically full time they should make a fair wage they should get the kind of benefits that you would get and the protections protections that you would get in a normal workplace not in the GIG economy and others who say well this is a new model and it's employing a lot of people and that the government should step in and in this way yeah you know it's it's really funny. I've talked to a lot of drivers or people that work for these companies and it's been very split. People who are pro passage of this bill will basically our concern for the larger implications that the GIG economy companies represent which is essentially been the erosion of worker protections over time on the other hand. There are people who are sort of more weakened warriors for over in lift in in all these companies and and don't want to be considered employees employees their whole point is that they can set their schedules. They can do this on their own time and so it really is more split than than I think people realize. Do you think it's more likely that this is going to end up in court or that. Uber and lift will be able to come up with as you said some sort of hybrid model and just make a compromise out of court yeah. I believe there's probably going to beat so the companies have devoted some ninety million dollars to working against this. Perhaps bringing some sort of proposition two voters in the months ahead there might might be enough people that don't actually want this that make their voices heard and end the company's allowing them to kind of give support that they may end up with a compromise at some point. It's a real it's a complicated one and I think people are split that is Mike Isaac who is the author of the new book super punt the battle for Uber and also technology reporter quarter for the New York Times. Thank you so much Jeremy. Thanks always warning now for parents using social media to adopt a baby which is legal with caveats as well here but some parents using instagram are encountering scammers like the woman who contacted Isaac analysts short in Utah. They posted their desire to adopt and went from thrilled to heartbreak in weeks because because this woman was a scam and she wasn't looking for their money she was looking for their time. What's being called emotional scamming. We're going to speak to their attorney to learn more but first I Eliza short. Are you there. Yes I'm here and Isaac. You're there as well okay. Well first of all take us through this. You're twenty three. You are struggling with infertility Tilleke. you turn to private adoption because sometimes you know people feel that. I'm going through agencies might be more expensive. You went online line instagram and started putting up pictures to let people know about your family and who you are an analyst then. You've got one message saying. Are you guys still looking looking to adopt. Tell us about this person that you thought you were meeting on social media yeah so. She said that she was going to have a baby in about a month and that her and her boyfriend couldn't take care of it so they wanted to find someone to adopt their baby. Ironically her name was Eliza as well or she said and you started to get to know her is like what are you thinking. At this point. We thought it was an answer to our prayers in that our family was finally going to be able to to start so we thought that it was just an amazing miracle that we were receiving which turned out to not be the case yeah and Alana's very tender for both of you. But what kind of interaction were you having with this air quotes Eliza birth mother mother well. She wanted to talk twenty four seven and after she said she chose us she would call me at all times of the day day. I wrote think she was lonely into wanted someone to talk to now well well and now we're learning this. Is something called emotional scamming Isaac she she didn't ask for money right. She seemed to just WanNa talk. No it's really true. She never asked for money. She never asked for anything honestly honestly when we told her that we had gone out and bought baby stuff. I think she honestly felt bad so I really don't think she wants anyone to put any money into into it well and Eliza. When did you start to think this isn't right. She would never sign a doctor released form for us to be able to talk tour. Dr She was really hesitant about giving information out so we can find a lawyer to work with her but we can never get confirmation information on those things well when she wouldn't. I believe tell you what hospital or doctor she was seeing. You contacted a lawyer. We're going to speak to the lawyer but but this potential birth mother for you turned out to be someone scamming families across the country main Alaska New York Georgia Alabama Texas. You blocked blocked her but then the nightmare gets worse because the scammer goes by different names and she went on to create multiple instagram account in an attempt attempt to reach you now. What is she saying to you. I mean really she's just saying the exact same things and that's why or so quick to catch on now that it's her. How hard was this Eliza. I mean things we hear actually happened in a in a mother's body when she is anticipating eating a baby even if she doesn't birth it what was happening to you in. This was crashing down. I mean I had a hard time with just because you're putting your whole trust trust in someone everytime we get a text from potential birth mother we have a hard time putting that trust in them well and Isaac Doc. You know some would say well then. Why don't you go to an adoption agency or you know. This was to painful why why continue to try this this through. We can't afford an adoption agency at this point in our life but we could afford a pie adoption and so we're going with that route. We want a family so bad that we are willing to to put ourselves out there and then just have to remain cautious. What would you say to someone. WHO's doing this emotional scamming to get across how painful it was for you guys? All these people want to start a family to have kids and then there's someone that comes in dangles their dream in front of their face just to pull it away and say just kidding. It's not real emotionally. I don't think there's many things that you can do that are meaner to a person than that yeah well. Isaac analyst is short. We wish you all the best best and hope that that child around the corner for you. Let's bring in their lawyer. Julius out ski and adoption Attorney based in Jefferson Georgia Julie so many questions including is looking for a child on instagram legal. Every state has different laws in Georgia. The law just changed changed to allow adoptive families who have a P- replacement approved homestudy to advertise in different mediums uh-huh including social media. It just seems incredible and you know your heart breaks for people who are looking for children to adopt but doesn't there have to be some legal legal motion along the way to show that somebody's considering transferring a child once there is a match between a birth parent and adopt appearance then. Dan Attorneys agencies different people get involved to make sure that everything's on the up and up. So how often do you think this happens when people like Eliza and Isaac meet beat somebody through social media even meet them in person I mean we re reading accounts. People who formed a bond with the woman who was offering a child they bought her gifts as they travel to meet her face to face buying gifts that sounds an awful lot like paying for a child which sounds a legal and there never was a child so the people were meeting her face to face and not realizing that she wasn't pregnant. I guess so that seems a little unusual. We'll say that one of the first things adoptive families and adoption attorney do ask for is some type of proof of pregnancy. Each state has different laws about birth mother expenses that can be paid Georgia lodges. It just changed adoptive families that are working with an attorney. Can Hey certain expenses such as rent utilities and food and medical expenses senses if it goes through their attorney trust account pregnant women who are able to work they still need to have the rent paid. Their utilities paid the difference France is an it's a fine line. The law says that it can't be used as an inducement to encourage someone to part with their child so we try to make sure sure there's no baby buying going on of course is going to this idea the emotional scammers what was going on there what what's happening well and that's a good question because what are they getting out of it really and honestly up until March of this year. I had not seen this that had never seen a situation ration- where someone was not pregnant and was just doing it for no other purpose. It seems to cause heartache. I have seen this one particular. SCAMMER has come up across my radar between myself and my colleagues about twelve times since March. Is that Eliza or because we know there's another woman named Gaby that you've come across quite a bit. We think they're the same person Oh using different names. What are some other red flags things that people should look out for definitely a if the biological mother is not interested in meeting with any professionals social worker or an adoption agency person lawyer or a lawyer exactly and she doesn't WanNa meet face to face. That's a big red flag. one of the other big red flags is if she can't tell you what hospital she's going going to deliver at or her doctor's name. That's what finally broke on a couple of these interactions. I have with emotional scammer. Was I ask who's your doctor. She just said I can't remember the name and in this situation keeping you're on the phone for hours not asking appropriate questions for example. If you were going to place the baby for adoption you would probably want to know about the adoptive family you would want to know. Where do they live. Where do you think my child will go to school. We should say women who offer other women. Their children are giving the the most incredible gift in the world often a painful choice but what would you say in general about adopting going through instagram I mean I don't know there's so many children that need homes through agencies towns like this can be very risky. The truth is that there aren't a lot of infants for adoption. The wait for an infant adoption can be two years and so I think that people are just looking at all their options because people are also waiting later in life people wanna baby but maybe some agencies won't work with them because they're over the age. Each of whatever the agency sets Julia was asking adoption attorney in Jefferson Georgia. Thanks so much. Thank you Robin Compulsory. Julie thinks these emotional scammers are actually looking for someone to mother them in the Oval Office this afternoon. President trump called for a ban on all flavored vaping products as concerns earns grow about a rash of deaths and illnesses mainly in young people who use e cigarettes vaping has become a very big business as I understand it like a giant businesses version period of time but we can't allow people to get sick and we can't have our youth this week officials in Kansas said a sixth person died from a vaping related lung illness joining us now is NPR science correspondent Richard Harris with the latest. I Richard how Jeremy Well how significant is this announcement unspent from the White House that they are seeking a ban on these flavored vaping products this is a pretty big deal they still haven't finalized it but they say that they intend to do vaping has become an epidemic among young people and that has been a huge concern because it's contains pains addictive nicotine right and so we're creating a whole new generation of children addicted to nicotine and they tend to gravitate toward these products that are flavored flavored with bubble gum or Pina Colada or meant menthol or whatever a much more so than sort of the garden variety tobacco flavored vaping product so the FDA which has authority to regulate these products has decided. You know what we're not going to allow them on the market anymore. We are the flavored ones that is and we hope that the non flavored ones will still you know be used only by adults there are obviously concerns about getting kids addicted to nicotine we also toward ward one of the labs where some of the research is going on into the effects of e cigarettes and one of the concerns of the scientists there is that there also could be cardiovascular effects in the future that we don't even know about yet because of all the particles that are inside those vaping devices. There's just very little research at this point did did the health secretary say today how and when this ban on the flavored vaping products would go into effect they said they are developing a rule and expected to be out in a couple of weeks so it it you know it's a bureaucratic process but after talking with the president today they came out with their marching orders last week we spoke with the chief medical officer from the State of Michigan which was the first state to ban the flavored e cigarettes the sales of them did it seem like momentum has been building leading to take action on this well clearly within the FDA and the Department of Health and Human Services. I would say yes because this is something that they have been worried about. you're not so long ago the former. FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb was on morning edition and he said you know we don't have to let these products on the market and if if we keep seeing seeing an uptick in the number of children who start vaping we might very well take action or his his predators the people who who came after him the FDA okay might very well take action and and in fact what has happened is a new survey come out a preliminary results show that the vaping continues to grow markedly among teenagers and youth and that is a Obviously that's a huge public health issue. What has the e cigarette industry said about not the moves to restrict their business. They have been trying to maneuver around these rules to to get around them to some extent jewel well not so long ago voluntarily agreed to restrict the access to these flavored products and they were hoping obviously that that would be enough to satisfy satisfy the FDA clearly the answer is no just voluntary actions of you know making sure people show ID and and so on is is not going to do it the FDA says we want to take them off the market Richard. We're talking here about some concerns that involved the bigger picture of Nicotine Addiction addiction etc and getting kids hooked on these what about these recent illnesses and even deaths what's going on there that is unclear unclear for sure but but it is not apparently due to to or or maybe only to monitor extent due to these tobacco vaping products there the sense is people really don't have people are investigating more hundred more than four hundred and fifty cases are out there. Six people have died and they're still trying to figure out what's going on. One hypothesis is that it some of these additives and oils that people add to to to mix in their own nicotine or maybe even to mix in with their. THC More particularly cularly because vaping is also a way of getting marijuana active ingredients so it's not so I think that the the the spate of illnesses we're seeing it's not really directly related to the youth smoking thing although of course you know health those kinds of health risks should be concerning to us all Richard One one more thing how how do you think that this country with its history of tobacco and the addiction to tobacco and all the health cost that have come along with that could have allowed this industry this e cigarette industry to explode like this especially among young people without any real oversight from the federal government. Yeah I think part of it was maybe a hope that this would end up being less dangerous than tobacco into the extent that people leave stop smoking tobacco cigarettes and start take-up. Vache vaping that may be some improvement from the standpoint of of health so I think there was one camp that says better this than than cigarettes but I think the. FDA has also just been awaiting in gently to this issue and trying to figure out wh how they should regulate and why that is Richard Harris NPR science correspondent on today's news that the trump administration in his seeking a ban on flavored vaping products thank you Richard Pleasure and here and as a production of NPR and WBU our association with the BBC World Service. I'm Jeremy Armie Hampson. I'm Robin Young. This is here.

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Episode Twenty-Five

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We'll talk about talion food and this week is no different anthony that this week. We're going to cover gambling sports betting in particular and we're welcoming on Costa's who I think is an unbelievable leave -able twitter follow really entertaining. Does some great work Check out his weekly video series during the football season I S I I listen to his podcast. You better you bet Nicole also think is what's so great about him is I don't I'm nick. It'd be an insult to call you. Tout right oh well yeah cowed is kind of like a real like negative Kurban into space from shore and I sell a personal. Thanks for having me love you guys. Thank you very much for the opportunity here at. Yeah I've never sold the pick before and I never will pick. I don't like to put my over as a gambler because I'm not one of a Hoe said that that does gambling and I have to myself for over twenty years but but yeah I will never sell a pick and I feel like in order to be a tout you kind of have the Celtics and I have no no interest in ever do however if you are out you WanNa have the voice that nick has and you want to have the energy because you you even know this you have that tout energy. Oh yeah well. There's no doubt about it. Yeah that's not have always been my deal even when I was a kid so yeah I'd like I kind of even before I started doing stuff on the air and you know I did it in college. Richard and I was off air for a while. Sirius Xm it was always kind of like that would be the deal when I get together economy like I kinda like not like lead the charge against the chargers. I guess it's actually Kinda Fair to say so I I kind of acknowledged that that's true. People kind of said it'd be a great salesman if I didn't do what I do now. So yeah I I can't really deny it but yeah no interest in selling independent or being a talpet. I appreciate the call and I've got the energy to be one a leader of the new school too. Because I've never really seen someone in your position. What do you call someone? And I guess a host but it's like a tout host hybrid either way. I've never seen one rock the risk that you will occasionally but not with easy's and that with supreme so good on Ya I jim thank you no no I You know it's funny 'cause I feel like and look fashions and the balls or right sides of the older so someone like I just got the parents of five hundred sawfish instead of which are like the five hundred is probably the ugliest easy. I think it's actually pretty beautiful. But after that got a Lotta people find it ugly and it's like this lavender caller and like I posted it on twitter earlier today and people are like this. Is the ugly issue I've ever seen people welcome binion's it's all good like I said fashioned in Tyler. The eye of the beholder people can look at what the way I feel like. I don't like that I looked at the way someone else rather than not like. Just because someone doesn't like the way I dress doesn't mean it's not good and vice versa. But I will say that. I think that you know I used to have less than zero style none whatsoever. I had no idea what I was doing. And now if you've got a good handle on it and I don't know if it's like my favorite thing in life what is up there. There's one of my favorite things in life like just like putting out the yet or buying sneakers so that I would say the sneakers are kind of the pinnacle of the whole deal from you right now. I'm interested I saw on twitter. That you bet your your giants fan and I know that you're very anti Shurmur and gettleman so you've been kind of you said you bet on the cowboys on Monday night. You're very just open about. I am betting against my team rooting against my team. Because I want these guys Outta here and I'm just curious like what you think about your giants like. I WanNa hear you vent about them. Because I'm team tank to dolphins fan. I'm team tank. So you're try. You're avidly rooting for them to lose out so they get rid of Shurmur cattleman. Oh yeah no I will be. And here's the thing. Here's what makes Sunday's game so interesting. But the jets. The giants fan base the giant fan base and the jets. Fan Base here locally where I'm at Tri State area. If anyone has a fricken morning jets fan should be rooting for the giants and giant. Bend should be rooting. The jets is going to be the only game in. NFL team should be the other day. Because you're a fan. You WanNa get out of the gate sell out of their absolutely dreadful and fans arnold progressing so if you were kept saying you you want Adam babysat and I'm GonNa try to get that enough. I hope the jets went fifty two nothing on Sunday. I mean that's the best scenario for the giants is January. Jones doesn't look terrible over the course of the season and they lose every game so Jones can be somewhat the kind of like the way you I wasn't working here. And that's like the Dangle Joan bashing done like people forget that when you lie replace. Kurt Warner Back in two thousand four five and four right. They had a winning record when he liked replace. Kurt Warner and you. I watched every single game until the final game of the regular season Sunday night. Football Against Dallas cowboys. I was at that game and I watched you at the end of that game audible out of a pass at the end of the dance partner to win the game and I remember thinking this guy's going to be really good so it's certainly possible for quarterback back to not one a lot of games and still have confidence in so that's my hope is that they lose every game. The rest of the Joan still looks good. Pat Shurmur is the absolute worst and like Mike. I'm sorry buddy but like I know like he's not used to be your coach. How the hell does that get another job like the? NFL is so disgusting and Nepotistic accessorised with a higher second like that will bevelled like down by the goal. LINE IN WII raiders. Game on Sunday action of four to the strength of the raiders. Stopping the run and Detroit's best running back has on injured reserve and staffer goes the ball back applied and Logan. Thomas who played quarterback at four thirty wasn't even a tight end in college football. That's the place that you call and it just speaks to the fact that he's is it just recycle one after another daryl level backup cold golfing. Pat Shurmur gets another coaching job. How the hell did this happen? He did a two against the Patriots down by nine minutes left. You've got your rookie quarterback. Let him go out there and find. I put a spin on the wall. Plus the football did it again on Monday down to sports against the cowboys. Poke holes like eight minutes to go like I is awful and settlement is the guy that hired him. He'd get you got to go running back at number. Two overall. The worst decision of all time said he was touched by the hand. The House that don't always news the hands of this. That'll then I added New York out of the giants front office. He he stops short. Your team sucks. I want them to lose every game. I think we need Jones to be good though right because we can't take another quarterback because we need you to be good but everyone else saw one everyone else out and I'll tell you that I know that things are up in south Florida with the dolphins right now. I would gladly gladly extreme situations because the dolphins at least have a plan plan to try and so completely ruttles men you asked him about the giants and he went off and and I know that he had a bad beat in there. What I love about gambling so much is is you remember? Like your recall of certain instances. I'm going to remember Logan. Tom Is being thrown at at the end. The bag game for several months after sure. And maybe for the for all the time so it really helps you out. I've always had this take with Stugatz on our regular radio. Show that I never want gambling to be legalized is because I just I'm drawn to the shadiness of it. The appeal the bad beats. I don't want I don't want you know Joe Public out here Joe Sports Fan betting on every game and and then all of a sudden. There's accountability for referees. Because he's all somebody on the NFL APP. No I want to take my bad beat on the chin. Remember it forever. Sometimes I remember the bad beats more. ENJOY HIM I get a kick out of him. Oh the bad beat the best because that's part of it and look. I think that you have to be an I. You know I'm thirty years old and I think my self awareness is growing a pretty strong degree And have to acknowledge at this point that there is a part of me. If we were GONNA probably chart. I think it might be more than fifty percent of the pie chart that kind of enjoys the misery misery like I I enjoy the pain that goes with sweat on an NFL Sunday. I enjoy it right. So like the chasing you with the Logan. Tom Smoking Thomson. I'll remember that forever ever just stick with the stuff and I remember everything comes down to sports like in Thomas. We'll get remembered how. `Bout I lost thirty. That lift legitimately thirty thousand dollars. Because because chasing Myers missed field goal at the end of the hot spots game. I have the greatest. Eff Lineup of all time winning fifty thousand dollars for like an hour and a half my girlfriend sitting on the couch catatonic. We're speaking on pacing back and forth like an wild man opened that any Russell Wilson throw goes to Thailand walking back on every play buyers makes that kick not only do. I never think I'm giving up all week like I bet early for the NFL right so last one day I bet the ball plus so I've won my bet but I'm on oldies radio. Show they WANNA have you on Friday and then I'm giving out the worst of the number but that's just donald like the the the beach so I'm giving it like four four and a half that bet you don't want that pissed me off. Because the boxer definitely covered anywhere best Seattle got really lucky but then began has overcome when the clown Myers Mrs Service with the game and then Russell Wilson and the overtime period every receiver on the seahawks. Not Name Tyler Lockett including some guy named Jacob Policy. I just the back rump. Because this was on the bench. And they were towards the winning touchdown and I'm just watching money disappear and I'm not talking ten dollars hundred dollars thousand dollars. I'm talking literally thirty thousand dollars in front of my eyes on Sunday. So yeah that was really annoying. That he's definitely sick and as far as the gambling being legalized things like. I love this whenever it was a couple of years ago. Bless your but gambling legalized. Now what the hell am I doing for the last fifteen years. I've portfolio two-decade. You're telling me that legalized great. I've been tabling literally my wife. Life is not changed. One iota. With all the league's legalization of gambling. You need better officiating bill. Mike would you need to better officiating. That's got to happen. There does need to be some accountability. 'cause like I think on twitter all the time gentlemen we are truly truly living in a golden age of terrible officiating in Sports. It's awful and Kinda glorious at the same time I guess and it gets billy. I'm kind of wondering what you pacing like a madman would be like if this is just having a normal conversation. Oh yeah so it was so this is kind of a a one off situation here. I've been with my girl for nine months now and she's only really seen meltdown prior Sunday one time and it was the NBA finals game. Five I bet the raptors nurse. They're on like that hundred seventy nothing wrong and the crowds going and Michener with apologies to Chris. Webber and the ninety. The three hundred championship game takes a worse time out in the different sports to tell them that the warriors come back in the game and I knelt down after that and I remember she looks at me and goes. Is this what it's like when you lose and I'm like it's good. It's all good. It's never liked it. And then she around Sunday like so. I've kind of got in the forefront of my mind right that like she's here right so I can't like full-on total meltdown. Because I care about her. I don't want her to see me like so. I'm Kinda like it was kind of like a quiet manic pace but I wasn't like walking around grab watering under my breath would normally so I man like it would have been if she hadn't been here like I don't even know what would have been like just being talking to get. We aint talking like call one hundred bucks. This was literally like fifty thousand dollars hanging in the balance so I don't know what it was like. I'm kind of happy. She was here for us to be honest with you. What is it? com- you legs you ever go to like color me mind and just like paint. Things would laugh. Like what do you do to relax. You seem very high strung. Yeah yeah so I go to therapy like like once a week which is great content. Listen it's my gift in my curse like I'm completely nuts and people will say to me like it's just can't you what you're off. Your Buddy wants to commend a day with me. You'll be saying I really am. I am high-strung for the integrate I analyze everything with my girlfriend. Believe and say to other people will say to be like your like your mind must be moving so fast all time. It really is so like I kind of as I've gotten older you know I've I've I've tried to temperate inserted ways so like I put a great emphasis now now on my mental health. So and that's and I'm not trying to say like like the press or anything like that. There's nothing wrong with that. Obviously but like therapy because it helps me talk through these issues because my mind I just moving so fast and it's always on a million different things you know what about other ways that you can maybe take the edge off. I'm talking about alcohol or other things you can do to. Maybe take the edge off that I may or may may not be a big fan of what you know whether it's walking Arbor here why let Stanford sitting looking at the water or just laying still. This'll be great. I can't believe I didn't lead with this and I told my therapist is a couple of weeks ago. 'cause he's like that he's like you've got a lot going on you gotta bring it down a little bit. I'm like I know you know what I on answering deprivation. Yeah I I get I get in my bed or I lay on my couch and I pull the covers over my head and I lay in complete silence and then complete darkness like simulating being back in the womb and it is glorious. I just take it down to zero and I feel like my proverbial tank start to fill walk again without those moments quiet and without those moments of peace which I never had before because I was always going one hundred twenty miles an hour. Like I'm uh I'M GONNA be in an early grave like being I'm being candid with you guys. I die early if I don't like calm down every once in a while. 'cause otherwise like you can't live like going on under you're twenty miles an hour all day so lane down closing my eyes silence for a long period of time. It's kind of how able to unwind. Have you tried like a weighted blanket. When you're laying down really like I? Should I do that. It's like telling you it's like a hug it's like blanket is giving you a hug. Maybe light a couple of aromatherapy the candles and you just relax. I need this man. This is gonNA sell felt like and again like I'm like grew up. I am the stereotypical New York Sports Fan. Like if you had told me he likes the seventeen year old nick like oh you know what you should do. You should lay down like some like lavender scented candles and incense jerk like more on like no chance. I'm doing that age where I've got an open mind again. I think I'm soaking wet. 'cause point to be able to diagnose faults right. I think I'm GonNa do this. I'm GONNA look until the way to like it. I need some. I need anything that I can do about me. Relax I need to do like I. I used to when I lived in south Florida. I used to go to get my haircut places. Coconut Creek right enough. I mean by my ears I do. I go to so I would get my haircut and then I would go and get like my hair washed like a woman in the store and she would always give me a little and she would say to be like. You're very very tense. Relax and I'd be like I am relaxant. She's like no. This is not relaxing. I don't know how to do it like I don't know how to not be physically. I don't know how to not be. I'm hoping at some points. I live long enough that able to fit your out but I have not up until this point. Maybe the way blanketed your your role mechanical. One way that I sort of unwind line I bet first period ten minutes team to score in the NHL. It's been on absolute heater. It's been a total breeze form. Is there any other sort of a market inefficiencies that I should exploit sort of like someone scoring in the first ten minutes doggy. Oh College basketball and like and this is not even like me like hosts nick also also talking. This is like on you better. You Bet on the show that I was forever. Radio DOT COM sports. We have all the oddsmakers during the week. They all say that there is no market. That can be exploited. We did greater especially right now when like all the sports are intersecting right now right so we got college football we got the NFL both in the hearts of the season and the A is underway now right NHL H.. L. is underway. We've got soccer as well champion. Great Chelsea I actually like by the way gets that was pretty relic and now. Yesterday there were like one hundred thirty college. Basketball teams like there is is literally not enough time for bookmakers to like put sharp numbers up for all these games so there's major market inefficiency now. I'm not GonNa lie you guys and be like I'm the one with the spreadsheet because I can't even operate excel. I don't think I have it on my computer so I'm not the one that to it. But they're all pro better is out there and they come on our show and they'll text me games and some other people the college basketball now before it becomes like every March when it's what everyone wants battle leading into the tournament lines are not sure there's a ton of value to be gleaned on a massive college basketball every day so that is by far the most inefficient market in terms of us being able to potentially take advantage of it. What do you guys feel and I kind of no how you feel? I know Mike how you feel because you often talk about doing it and I saw nick that you tweeted about how you bet the second half for your cowboy cowboys bet on Monday night and I'm curious 'cause his I always lose any time I bet a game and then I it's not going. Well I'm like you know what I'm GonNa Double Down on the second half I always lose. Is this something do sharks beds second-half or live or is this just like straight junkies. That are doing this. Oh no they definitely do and again. I think it's important to draw. I will never like misrepresent myself itself to the audience. Do you guys anybody. It's very important to all line between like someone like me right like I am not paid by my employers like to pick sixty percents I'm paid to entertain I am paid to host show so like I'm not GonNa lie to you and be like I'm the one that's just their college football Saturday in a dark room all day. Just like staring. Darren numbers until I see something that now. It's a big enough game. Like for instance last night we were talking about it on the show. Like if we get Kentucky at a certain number live. We're GONNA look to do but there are definitely people and there's definitely because here's the thing about live betting right it's an algorithm like people are not. They're not in a room like they are like deciding what the lions are going to be. Games like live like during like a commercial out of a basketball game. So that's just an algorithm bits. Bits numbers out and I think like the warriors in the NBA playoffs last year. And we're we all of last season there was the greatest Sir Quirky but NBA issuing. That was a major thing that people were taking advantage of even in the postseason because that market can be inefficient as well now again. I'm not trying to position myself as dude just sitting there in front of the computer. That's not me. But that is the way that pro betters really do gamble and we have a guy named Kenny White. Who Comes on our show? Every Tuesday the west of us who like on Saturdays. We'll watch games. Just spot where he feels like Dalom and to get the best of the numbers L.. Do I hear it all the time personally. No but are there are a lot of pro betters that do it. Yes yes yeah. It's great for value and credit to nick because I actually went live in game later in that cowboys giants game make and our Golden Goose Chris. Cody Golden Goose Golden. We're we'RE NOT GONNA. I think nick knows who. The golden goose is us on an absolute tear. But they were both telling everybody off it through various channels that this is going to be a relatively high scoring game. Maybe some back and forth and if it's going to be back and forth it's going to be high scoring then you know there's going to be opportunity to get value on the side that perhaps align is a little too big early on so yeah the the golden goose neck. Were right in the sense. Since you got you got a couple of guys you got a golden goose that I'm sure you have a couple of Golden Gi said texts you but on twitter. I'm not even going to say his name because I don't WanNa bring the bad Juju barstool reveal this guy's name and he's actually still doing all all right from self but when he got that one. Golden Goose you've got to protect it right Yeah I mean there are. There are a lot of people like this is just Kinda like just from. I've been doing kind kinda the sports gambling stuff to the degree that I'm doing it now but I've been doing it for six years now. What I was reading for bleacher report in two thousand thirteen and this is again? This is what I'm GONNA say. Truly like not out of criticism but we sure report or any entity for that matter like I kind of have them into a little bit letting me doing. NFL Pitch Column like a picture against the bread call because even then it wasn't as invoked nearly of course as it is is now or even a couple of years ago and again that was not meant to knock it just kind of like the way that things have changed. So I've been in this space for a long time and I think there are a lot. There were a lot of CD. People obviously biggest lie in any walk of life not just in this field but this Kinda leads to it obviously right but there are a lot of people on twitter in the sports media who are pro gamblers out of transitions with sports media. But I really think we're largely on the up and up and I think that there's a lot of right free information that you can glean out there now. I'm GONNA sound like a shameless self promoter right now which I am but like we have a lot happen on our show that come on and they give this information for free. You don't have to pay for it and like inflammation is rock solid. People were like proven long-term winters. It doesn't mean that they can't have a day or a week or a month on for they lose. But these are people that are GonNa win long term so I actually think that now as opposed to like even like five or six years ago or even like two or three years ago. I think there's a lot of good information from reputable the people out there It's not like it used to be so I think that there are a number of quote unquote Golden East out there that we can mind for information and also for money. Yeah Nick is a great way to get some of that information formation. His podcast is really good. You better you bet and don't be a freeloader. Like Subscribe Rate Review. Do that with the mystery crate as well. I want to get back into how you sort of kick back. I can relax and detach yourself. How often do you check your weight? How often do you check your phone on a given football Saturday or Sunday? Well I think that we can probably extend that question two days and why and the answer is constantly constantly on the phone I would say it's less the phone on Sunday and I know that I'm being a little like specific with the answer here but on Sundays. It's the computer and I've got one of the fantasy asks up dependency after because they show you literally great for gambling and it's great fantasy in addition to being a gambler like And I love gambling support. I am absolutely obsessed with fantasy football double digit leagues. Every year. I got a lot going on. People will ask me out sometimes like text on Sunday like like four thirty. Like how's the day going and I'm like guys. There ain't no way to answer this question because literally every single flight instruments game as impact on something that I'm doing so it's on it's like eleven thirty and the final game ends on Sunday night on the east coast. Then I'm able to really excel now Sunday's or like the High Holy Day for me now just guys about me and my sports fan. I'm GONNA obsessed with sports fan all all the major sports has been my entire life so the NFL has always been for me to try. and He's been my favorite speaks. Oh Sunday is a day. Where like I never miss an NFL? Something there are some Saturdays and I say this on on my show where like look. I got a personal relationship. I got a family like I. I got to attend took up some time. So there's a crappy college football card. They talked for half or three quarters of This Saturday I gotTa Watch that game. But there are some Saturdays and having your regular seasons Kinda crappy Where I've been able to say okay? I can miss half the College College football Saturday. Go Out and do something with my girlfriend and not really anything Sundays. I will never miss Saturday's if it's a bad guard okay. With missing a little bit because again I had to put my mental health. Make it a priority. I can't be sitting in front of the TV into the TV watching games. Twenty four seven for my have you had relationships and because of this no no no no I I give myself a little a little into with archer. One of this comes down to it and well you know I I. I'm Kinda like growing role. That really is not true. So I'll give you two not I would say the relationships didn't end for for that reason like but I would say that the tipping point the relationships ended both revolved around sports and both all provoked around giant Super Bowl. So I remember with my first girlfriend when the giants Lost Arabia to Super Bowl. Thirty five We were driving By where I used to live on Long Island and we're listening to the Wfan and they were doing some trivia contests and the answer to the question gwen Parker which player on the giants or whatever has lost. Four super bowls in Parker was an offensive lineman before built teams walk in the early nineties and they had some guy who's like I'm a huge fan. I'M GONNA get the question right. And he didn't know the answer he didn't really answer was one part for like stickler and I'm like Great Sports Trivia and I'm not I'm just saying that like I really am and I'm like in the car like idiot like I do not know that this guy thinks he's an expert and my girlfriend. Why do you always have to be so critical? Everybody and I remember Eber thinking in that moment. Probably ain't GonNa work out and then in two thousand eight when the giants Super Bowl forty two against the Patriots. I I am so high strung. Obviously right I unlike the giants winning that Super Bowl Kinda like. I feel like liberated sports fan. I don't know how you guys feel like when your team. Your favorite team wins for the first time like all those Yankee will Jewish series were great. I'm the bigger giants I on a Yankees Fan. I would've sold all those world series just beat the Patriots and that wants Super Bowl and not even thought twice about it so I was so on edge going into into that game because it's all I ever wanted a sports fan with a moment like that and I got it off the degrading than they did get later. which was awesome girlfriends at the time is like by the late? We invited ourselves to the Super Bowl party so it was my girlfriend. Cook twin sister. My Buddy was dating the twin sister and I'm thinking to myself. Oh my God this is like and this is kind of sad to say this is the truth at the time. It was the biggest day of my life February. Third Two thousand eight and my girlfriend is going to be sitting there. Wanted to talk about the commercials like Spears's wearing the halftime show or whatever and I couldn't deal with it and I literally canceled on the Super Bowl. Party went to watch them some of my buddies Sirius. Xm instead of that was the beginning of the relationship. It sounds like you don't regret either one of those situations. Oh No it was. The first girl was cool. She was cool second one was like she would have been badgering meeting higher game about nonsense and I would have absolutely lost it so listen in the grand scheme of things. Do I regret it now but like is it got to think. About retrospect all right nick hostels a host of the great podcast. You better you bet or his weekly video series on S. I worry makes him football. Pick some big fan of What you do on social media so we're looking at this late and I know you got pigs throughout the week and you're pretty public about it and like I said like you said you're not tout so give us something this weekend that we can make some money on all right? Well we're we want. We want to start with the NFL. Cardi we WanNa Talk College football I I got to college. Football picks that I really like the Mike College football back. Well I I think that the the the the game that stood out to me on the whole board with taxes against Kansas State. Now there's some value gone with the wind because Texas open to five and a half seven the last time I checked. But that's a classic like last time we talked to actually say we're losing TCU. We've seen Kansas state now. The last couple of weeks obviously upset. Oh you we had that on our show. We can't say it on the twenty one a couple of weeks ago. That was great so say Beats Oklahoma then. Kansas state goes and they slash Kansas last week less miles in the Hawk and that was after after Kansas coming out the window. Texas tech so people are high on Kansas State right now and people are down on Texas obviously but the line keeps going up and favor of Walmart so I would look to lay it on Saturday with Texas Texas as far as Sunday's latest concerts Mike I I hate to do this but there. I don't think I can bet on your browns. And so they fire pretty kitchen knives. Yep supporting finally learn your lesson dude. I'm so like last Monday. Man Like before they pull the game off the board when the FLACCO now so we came down. I dropped like a good amount of money. On Brown's plus one and a half and like it was fine because I saw one money on. DSS But it's like it's like the guy is actively making decisions in the best interest of the other team. You know that everyone knows the guy. I think he might be worse than to Jackie. And I'm not saying that we so no interest in taking the browns. I may end up taking Buffalo Bites and get three with the bills. Cleveland currently sitting at minus two and a half of that game on Sunday but recipe card on Sunday I bet the bengals a couple of days ago plus ten and this is kind of close. Your no special singles are hosting Lamar Jackson and the raisins. Now I would feel better about it. This is the sense that not one. I feel better about her too. Fancy Dalton quarterback because at least you know what you're going to get with Dalton but my in Finley Cincinnati new starting quarterback in all. Seriousness was very impressive. In the preseason I was kinda calling but in the preseason like at some point Dalton's got the bench. He's obviously not the guy that's going to lead to some of these super bowl. EJ Green is back now so they've got the full complement of weapons. One is still still garbage but again like Baltimore's coming off the big win that everyone saw last on national television against the Patriots. It's a huge reading a divisional game on the road. So I tend with the bengals the other day. I like the bengals. And there's another closer no special guys and this one may be a little hard to offer people. But I kind of like the Falcons cover the two touchdowns bread thirteen points. Whatever it is right now in Orleans this is quite literally actually got left after saying this on the show last night and baby? I'm ridiculous maybe the saints will win like fifty one seven. This is their super bowl. And that Ryan's coming back healthy here and I think that they wanna know like last chance saloon here to at least go out and put forth good at first divisional game. These two teams usually play each other. Pretty up I'm GonNa take the points with the Atlanta Falcons since guys and may God have mercy on my soul and one other sharp veteran you guys this week All the pro gamblers that we've had this week. All looking at the packers At home against the panthers thorsland the five or the five and a half and also looking at the Pittsburgh steelers as a three and a half point home. Underdog against Jared Goff and the Rams we WANNA see the weather report for that game if the weather is cold. Read what we saw Jared Goff last year son football and Chicago and it was called. The Guy can't function in cold weather. It's a full of Sunday in Pittsburgh I'm GonNa take those points Mason. Rudolph in the steelers. Excellent excellent stuff there. Nick thank you so much also one last thing. You mentioned your big fantasy football player and obviously you're noted Gambler. How often do these intersect with player? Props uh-huh oh quite a bit. I would say mostly on the island games. which was the games like on Thursday nights Sunday night and Monday night? I just got listen like this. What like people will say to me sometimes like well? What do you think about this and I feel like how many hours do you think there are today? Like how much time do you think I have to devote to this crap. Like I got a slip back and forth to the city and like deliberated really pays me and like exposures grades. We're not complaining about the job but man I thought has slipped back and forth. I do a four hour radio show ever and you guys know what that's like on a daily basis here like I'm Kinda Goes Jim. I'm trying to keeping trade. I got outside interests. Although there's just not enough time for all this stuff so the player props I will look at on a for the island games but I usually generally. We'll have a couple of my favorite or the anytime touchdown props so like for instance. The steelers dolphins game on Monday nights. I had the onsite Johnson plus seventy. I just felt like dolphins obviously are susceptible people. We see that all season Johnson had been there people now. It didn't work out how I thought it would. It would be delicious defense by Miami Party like the Red Sea allowing Johnson's. Of course I talked down but it did happen. That was what seventy so. Those are my favorite player Pasta and the NFL. We'll play or score a touchdown we act hit last week against the cardinals cardinals. Terrible against opposing tight ends. I'll give you one right now. Guys and I. I don't know what the number is on this. I have not. OJ Howard back this week for the Bay buccaneers and he's really disappointing. This season the hope is that now that he's back from injury. Famous played better last week. Our our can be involved. The cardinals are one of the worst if not the worst team in the NFL. Against opposing. Tight end. I think how it's going to score on Sunday so again. I don't know what that number is had it looked yet. But I think our two four touchdown on Sunday. And that's probably something I'll take a look at a man that's a bold prediction because oh Jay Howard has been bad. Also your bets this weekend. A lot of opportunity for Hashtag bad teams supposed to pop at that point in the season where you start writing off teams but because they simply can't be trusted our last question. It's a sneaker related question what's your stance ants on the fear of God's I know they're super popular and there was at sneakers lottery. I don't like them at all. Like get that you away from me. I don't care what Who likes it or what influencers telling me to wear it? What's Nico Out? There is a sneaker that you just don't get the hype about you're wearing some shoes right now that might be considered ugly and those new easy five five hundred. What's the worst shoe on the market? That's got a big deal around it. Man I got I got sizzling hot. Take for you man this one so good that you may you guys may need to have to take about Gibson. I Hate Jordan's I'm not not a fan. I'm a fan of basketball shoes. General life the reason why I think he's user so open. They're the most fantastic around the marcus. If goes for me and again like I said beauty's in the eye of the beholder. Some people may not like them but for me like there are two important things the sneakers dacre as do they look good be. Are they comfortable. He's a ridiculously comfortable. Because I have to boost our even the five hundred showing up but they are insanely comfortable. I'm not putting the pair of like like like Like polls Georgia's John us is on to walk around the city per day. You know what I mean either basketball sneakers. They're not like lifestyle seeker so for me I want I I had territory territory once. I told him I prepare us. He's actually I just have no interest in them. I don't think they look particularly good. I don't think they're very comfortable. I'm just I'm not adaptable. Super Guy. I gotta be honest with you guys like I like Air Max's but aside from airmax Zombie like or I like all flights also research lab blow my children to collapse I. I'm much more than a Nike Band. So I'm firmly on Titas unless he wants sponsor where you're sending for stop in which case. I am a huge Nike on the problem with them. They're not very. Are we comfortable. I haven't worn out there but I know a couple of people who have them. They're not very comfortable but they do kind of open. The pair that came out this past weekend the OATMEAL is one that you could walk basically with anything like this fan browner's caller so basically goes with everything supply point though there's three hundred fifty bucks and that's retail like the five hundreds and I caught this past weekend. I thought two hundred bucks. Whatever for me like three hundred fifty bucks so I mean we're parents sneakers? That aren't that comfortable. No way no Allan if there are three fifty at retail they're gonNA resell for like five hundred bucks on soft extra like goat or one of these other sites that set that selling sneakers. So if you're for me or a pass because they're too expensive and they're not comfortable here. We're comfortable I consider it but they're not And for me I'm easy guy for like old triples. I I want nothing to do with the Jordan. I don't get the fascination with Jordan's I guess arcs over Jordan's are hard. No like Randy drafter would say. That's an offer. Be Doc. I'm actually with you for the most part on the Jordan. They do have travis. Scott Clavel's great. I'm a big fan of the Jordan ones. I think that's a classic looking shoe and the eleven pretty cool. The price of one set up this weekend with the Carolina blue and the red. I actually Kinda like those. I saw that. Yeah they're they're good and they're also like the Jordan ones are great for custom pieces to the artists to work on them. It's got a lot of space on it so everyone just sort of. It's a classic shoe. Everyone's gotTa have a pair of Jordan ones except for decades. resells them for easies. All right AH no interest in a mandate comfortable and I don't think they look very good but that's me and like I won't criticize anyone for what they like in the same way that I don't think people do. This is what I like. But that's what's going to happen happened. 'cause giving star and that's just kind of I appreciate the heartache. It was good stuff. Nick thank you so much. Make sure to check out his podcast. You better you bet. Follow him on twitter. He's a great following although he's got unbelievable energy and he's got great bright future ahead of them makes the free press guy. Thank you guys very much in love the show. You guys do an unbelievable job and then creative inspiration Asian for me in my career so very much appreciate the opportunity to come on you know usually rely on energy drinks or coffee or boom boom mm sticks for energy but really all need to do is talk to nick. Koss you guys. Because he's got an unbelievable energy and if you haven't considered gambling because of some moral Stigma that. You have no money or you have no money. Find some and you know. Get rid of that moral stigma because I mean that guy makes me wanNA. I do all sorts of illegal activity. Yeah with his energy you can convince me to do anything including take saint. John's over one fifty three Nicolaos. Nick kaas everybody hopefully Hopefully we'll have mon- again loved having him on if you enjoy what you're listening to here on the mystery crate. Police Subscribe Rate Review and once. Check out some other properties. Here's what I'm going to promote today. Not GonNa Promote superiority in the meantime show. 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Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network: Wrestling Observer Live (June 18, 2019)

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So hopefully now that he's on his way back home, everything will become regular normal, again inside the empire, including his recording schedule which was thrown all under this week one, because he was out of town and well, also because his computer went out of town as well, but he seems to have all those things fixed, and doesn't matter if they are not because he's back in the home studio tonight to Brian in Vinnie show. I believe Craig is invited over for that one again too. So he will be there back to granny this week as well. So that's enough cleaning up at the home front here. You're here to talk about wrestling and wrestling. We shall talk about rall was last night. I know you're excited wasn't an awful show either. It was it was along show. It was every bit a three hour show. You final raw leading into WWE stomping grounds, the very well selling pay per view taking place this upcoming Sunday in Tacoma. Washington boss man will be there for that one with with live visuals on what's taking place. But we've also got news on the G one as well including John Moxley. The former dean Ambrose is announced that he's going to be a part of the g one climax Bill. He will not be part of the g one climax in the United States. New Japan issued this statement saying, Jon Moxley he's been confirmed as a participant of the g one climax twenty nine. Unfortunately, Moxley will miss the g one climax twenty nine opening day. Taking place at the American Airlines center in Dallas, Texas on July six additionally, he will not be in attendance at the g one climax Twenty-nine press conference taking place, July fifth two thousand nineteen. Also in Dallas Moxley will join the g one tour on July. Thirteenth in Tokyo. He has not been advertised for the show us going to return to new Japan on July thirteenth when they go back there. Why? Because a e w has his North American rights. 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I thought it was one of the more entertaining shows that I've seen and helped my attention for longer than some of the more recent ones. But I was really irritated about was like this is like the fifth time in a month where they promised something, you know, use it as the basis for their advertising for a week and not delivered on with the naming of the referee. And I don't know what this company is. But they just feel like they can lie with impunity. I mean this is like, like I said the fifth time in a month, they've not delivered on this thing, and then Bryan and Dave were reading the, their application for an EMMY nomination, they claim to be the longest running episodic television show in history, which is patently false. And that's something that they submitted to television experts like what is up with this company? Just bold faced lie. In the everybody. Why unfortunately, it was the show that nobody got to here last week because of all the technical nightmares that were taking place. But yeah, I listed the category of the outstanding structured reality programme, which in itself is a hilarious. Name in the word structure is apply to anything raw in WWE. But yeah, I kind of questioned whether or not anyone would know if it was good wrestling, or bad wrestling, or what a good show is over too. Bad show is because have the hell would they know I mean, we can comment on it, and all that sort of stuff? But just the fact that it's been nominated and accepted in, you know, this plea to go up there and then even possibly be voted on is kinda hilarious because it is filled with inaccuracies you know, Dave loves pointing out guiding light. He loves pointing out pro Portland wrestling. He will point out the original run in history of a world championship wrestling, which started his Georgia championship wrestling eons and eons ago. Oh, so yeah. I mean, it's, it's hilarious when you think about it, and it's also even more hilarious when you put it up, again, shows and Tim, I don't know, if your big TV watcher I going to be honest. I'm not. But I look at some of the shows that were listed there, like queer eye for the straight guy, and so many of these other shows and I just kind of scratch, my head and wonder exactly how WWE would beat any of them. Anyway, yet Mike General Hospital has been on the air since nineteen sixty three that even trumps of guiding light, which went for like fifty something years. But I just wanna say, I think he went, Bryan. Have a better shot at winning like a freaking Peabody award or something for that crap. Back audio from last week than WWE has any shot that would've EMMY was wrong to Miami. Thank you very much. I will take that as a grand compliment. Thank you for calling into the show. Yeah. I just lost it here. But I, I wanna find it was outstanding structured television programming that. That's what the category is in the outstanding structured, reality programme. There's nothing structured. And, and unfortunately, I guess there are too many real things taking place with, with WWE's programming. Right now, when it comes to the, the headache that is that it is. But here's just a couple in that category of shows that they will be competing against shark tank, Mythbusters antiques roadshow diners. Drive ins and dives undercover. Boss, lip sync battle. Who do you think you are queer eye? Let's see, fixer upper that was the one from HGTV. Well, start tanks when this thing four-times extreme makeover home edition, and undercover boss, is when it twice. I'm sure there's somebody out there. In fact, if you are out there that wants to make a hard sell on. Why WWE raw right now deserves more than any of those other shows including a win a win the taxi cab? Confessions. Never got in the two times that it was nominated you can call in and let me know any hundred eight seven eight play. I don't think Nick and Vermont has any hard sell to give me on that. So we'll just let him talk about whatever he wants to talk about Nick. How are you? Not too bad. Like how are you doing? I won't complain too much. Rod didn't kill me, so, you know, that's always a plus. Oh, a couple of questions for you. So do you think would you got into the wrestle kingdom will be two days, long this coming January, they could build to the rematch between Okada and Jericho for one night, and then do Okada at I'm sorry. Tana Ohashi and Jericho. The next night, you could absolutely do that. If you wanted to have Jericho in there, you sure you certainly could. You know, the issue there is if you're Jericho, and if you're a w do you want to see him, look at the lights on both shows? Now, I know you don't necessarily have to. But if he's competing against Okada for the item BGP title on their biggest show of the year. I don't see him being Okada, even if it was on their smaller show, the won't see them beating Okada with first Jericho. And then you have that where the next match is going to be against, you know, it's legend versus legend with Tana Hashi. And you know, to me that would be, I would think the only match you would do if you did one at all. If that's not a match that you do before one four, I mean, you could do that on that weekend or on those two days and get it out of the way. But I don't even think that you if it's all up to me. I'm not sure if I use Jerko on that show or mega or anybody else that is wrestling for a w that I didn't have to if there's any thought of them being able to kind of sell out on their own. I don't know if I put those people people in feature positions because, you know, they're gonna come up big and the only thing you do have your fans pining for them to come back. And I don't know if that's necessarily the thing that you want. Yeah, I was numb school who Email then about Billy Kidd day apologies to Brian for misunder- misunderstanding, what he had said before. So other question was the one year anniversary of big van Vader's passing any good, ole Japan or new Japan matches you would recommend me watching with him. Come on. I mean the first one right off the bat. If you haven't seen it with an Okie, you know, just for the reaction of the crowd, and how, you know, big of a deal that was that would be that was his debut in new Japan. And I. I like kills them. Yeah. I mean, that's the one you get some of the suplex, and he looks like he kills them and everything and that, you know, that was, you know that shook everybody up because he goes in there and wins. But like that, that was a great one to start with. There's plenty of tag team matches excuse me, as well to during the break, I'll actually pull up a bunch of them, and w GP title, offenses and stuff like that. You know, Vader and Hanson as well to four versus new Japan stuff now on the Japan South, but I'll come up with a list for you, and let everybody knows what it is at the break so nickel really appreciate the call Muslim slip in one more here before we go to break, Jason Fort Lauderdale Jason. How are you doing? Good. Mike. Brother. I will not complain. What's on your mind? Really the main thing that I wanted to talk with you about today is I mean there's a million things that be booking that I would love to talk about. But the main topic of discussion talk about was how Vincent looking Roman reigns at the moment, like if you've had four and two over a year ago, Becker with, I mean, even less than that back in summer slam of last year. You had him go over against Brock listener, and he was he got booed severely. And don't be really cared about him. And then he announced that he had to fight cancer. What about the cancer, and then he came back. He was in my opinion. I thought he was one of the most over guys that they had in a while. And then if I forward to today with few days than having manager, Mick fire and it's like, you know, after I'm not looking at what's going to happen with them. Now, I'm just thinking about, like what's going to happen to them in the future because he's been after losing to Shane super showed, and he's been looked kind of like a week and. And I just wanna know your opinion of what you think the future is going to hold a Roman reigns after he finishes this, this, you'd wish they McMahon, drew McIntyre, like you're gonna be in the is it going to be in the title pictures. He's gonna do have a few somebody else. Like what, what are your thoughts on that? Jason here, the music coming up, so we'll take this right after break, I will say this. If you're a big Roman reigns fan out there expecting to there to be anything, other than Rome, rains in the top Knicks, you shall be wrong, although some rehab is certainly in order, but we'll talk about that we get back from break. Wrestling observer live. Don't let this summer. Paseo power it up in the five hour energy power up your summer sweepstakes. He could win one of five amazing experiences by any five hour. Energy product including cherry, extra strength snap a picture of your receipt, and send it in, because it's about time you had the dining your life, power up your summer with five hour, energy. No purchase necessary. Sweepstakes ends July fifteen twenty nineteen must be US resident age eighteen years or older winter. For official rules, visit WWW dot five eighteen win dot com. Void where prohibited. Sponsored by letting essentials LLC. Right now. You can get both sprints unlimited plan and the all new Samsung. Galaxy S included for just thirty five dollars per month per line for five lines. All you need is approved credit and in eighteen month lease no trade in required. Visit sprint stores sprint dot com or call eight hundred sprint one who fifty dollars a month after twenty to fifty credit applied within two bills. Earlier main unbalanced doing limited basic after six thirty twenty eight thirty two dollars per month per line for five lines. With auto pay day to physician during be maximum. Zeros restrictions apply. Cut a mean texts at the break asked me why until that gentleman? About matches invader had against personal hero of mine. Generally takada. Nobuhiko Takada, not in generally smo- form but in worked shoot form for you. W F, I. Yeah. Watch those if you're a you WFAN watch those matches and actually even more than that he did have one against Kyoshi, Tamara who or tamra, however you wanna say that was not my favorite style of wrestling. I appreciate shoot style wrestling, but I was never a big fan. Adam Somers, a monster fan. There are other people that were monster fans I was a big amateur Oestling fan or m a big boxing fan. And I'm a big pro wrestling fan. And I've always had problems with the way that was was presented. I've always had issues with the way the to- skies had trained back in the days. I mean they were seriously hurting each other, you know, putting these moves on, and I it was hard again, it was just hard for me to, to. Feel as though if I'm not being worked, and I'm getting a legit open hand palm strike in the face. Like I, I don't know. I, I'm just going to go ahead and fully fight, but I always had a problem with that with that style. But that's neither here nor there guys who are great at that style Vader in some ways being one of them because of how big he was. And how much of an impression that, that he made upon the scene. It was really something else. But Volkan is a name that you hear and tamra is the other one that you hear and I a lot of people will point Volkan again, a lot of people that are sorted me about the style. But tamra is by far in my opinion from what I've seen, you know, you'll hear names like Sakharov, but look, I'm not saying soccer elbows an awful pro wrestler, because that wouldn't be fair in his style. He was good. But that charisma that he added the MA ring all that, that never translated to me. But, you know who did tamra did? And matches tamra invader from UW W F I back in the ninety s and ninety three ninety four. Around that time where we're certainly something else that was also the time, evaders reputation really by that point was already made. And as I mentioned, his first match with Muto or I'm sorry with, with gnocchi that he had was was massive. In the from there. He had matches with Shinya Hashimoto, who was one of the one of they think he was the best biggest box office in Japan. He was the third musketeer that American fans don't kinda don't really know. They know they know Muto, they didn't know, Shinya Hashimoto, who was by far the biggest star of the three in Japan. There were those matches there. He had one with bam. Bam. Bigelow Hossain Muto in one thousand nine hundred ninety two the in that was a may dome show. That he had that with matches and all Japan against Kentucky Bashi in one thousand nine hundred nine January of nineteen ninety nine someone Vader may second nineteen ninety nine Vader and STAN Hansen. That was the one I was thinking of that I think may have given credit to new Japan for, but with, with Bater staining answer where he knocks his eye out, and that legendary match you put invader on YouTube, you're going to be able to find some really good ones. That pop up there. So I had to open up cage match for that. I don't have that, that, that callback mind anymore dates and things like that get jumbled away as I've gotten older. So I apologize but those are all great wants to start with as well as so much good stuff in WCW, as well too. I mean that was kind of an era that gets slept upon a little bit unless you came up with that dangerous alliance era that a lot of people look at, you know, if you grew up in that era, you'll want to hear about WCW taking a step back, even though in the grant annals of history, you know, both. They in the wrestling business had at that time, but big van Vader was one of the. Those shiny moments that they had their matches against RIC flair hard matches against sting. You know, those are the matches sting, invader had people point to staying and say, you know, you don't think back I can work. You know, think he could stand in there. I mean he was fantastic in those matches Vader. So cactus Jack all that other good stuff that he did there too. So there's a ton of eight or out there in case anybody wants it the anniversary of his passing. I believe if I'm not mistaken. It's also the anniversary of bruiser Brody passing being murdered in Puerto Rico. I'm not sure if that's exactly the date, believe it may be. So sad times there, I got another sad when to before we go back to the phone calls, just came over the wire in ESPN police in South Carolina have put out a missing person advisory for former Philadelphia Eagles and Carolina Panthers running back rod smart. The Lancaster county sheriff's office says that smart paps best known for his. He hate me jersey in the XFL was last seen Wednesday. Indian land, South Carolina. It is unusual for him to be out of touch for this long. Police wrote in the advisory, Mr. smarts families worried about his safety and well-being smart. Who's forty two played one season for the eagles in two thousand and one in four for the Carolina Panthers in two thousand to two thousand and five he came to fame for his he hate me nickname, which allowed which he was allowed to put on his jersey for one season of the XFL in two thousand and one and of course, had that, you know, famous shod of I forget who it was doing the reporting on the field running up to them. And you know you know what about the name jersey? He hate me who hates you. They hate me, baby. Everybody aided them. They hate him for being so good. He hate me rod smart. So hopefully we get an update on that before the end of the show, or, and regardless of whether we do by the end of the or not, hopefully, ends, okay? But we might as well go back to the phone calls, now, one eight hundred eight seven eight play one eight hundred eight seventy and let me just throws in here too, is I make everybody on the phones weight and Dom to double clutch their against the board when it comes to Roman reigns. Just to follow up on with Jason Fort Lauderdale asked. I, I don't know if you know exactly how much quote unquote, rehab he needs. But he certainly, you know, I would put him on a nice run here considering he is trying to overcome the evil Shane empire. And that's really what it's about for the MS the use, does, I think to a lesser degree. They may be shuffled out of that mix now. But certainly when it comes to the MS, and, and when it comes to Roman reigns, you know, they're facing off against the force in Roman reigns has got to go through. Everybody, including drew McIntyre, you know, to get to Shane and conquer him that way. And I don't think that there's any doubt that he's going gonna be the focal point of that company. And I think is far less damaged by anything that's going to happen in this feud, although it has been awful. It really has been a build up for some of these have been off on me. Look at it at Barron, Corbin getting beaten by Kofi. And granted, you have the caveat of it took Kevin Owens, the super kick him in the face, which led to the pin by Kofi. But again, it's like this dude has I believe, taken to ELS in a row and he's the one that's supposed to be facing off against Seth Rollins for the title. In granted, you still have the. The, the Asterix that Tim in Miami mentioned that they didn't follow up on this week, which is he's going to have a special guest referee there. But still, it's he had him again. Take the elder Kofi y you could have had Kofi pin Sammy again or whatever. I just I don't know. I thought it was nonsense. And in fact, you could add Barron, knockout, Kevin Owens, considering Kevin Owens, and same, he's gonna be involved in a tag match with the use OC coulda had him. Get knocked out or something like that, by a big move from baron, you know, and then have the match in that way. I mean, I don't know I guess they look for the out on baron, they just to meet into a very good job of it. But long story short when that whips back around to Roman he is. I'm not saying he's the safest person on the roster because, you know, they're obviously is the history of people booing the hell out of him. But I think at this point I'm not saying that those days are completely behind them, but I don't think the issue any issues with him or going to be as bad as they were before. But hey, I've been wrong before we'll find out. Well, finally take it back to the phone lines. Now, poor Jimmy Virginia's been kinda waiting there in the queue for awhile, Jim Houria. Hey, hey Bill, Mike. Did you get the tweet us at you about Tony stolen impersonating minority Suzuki? I eat. I saw the two had that there. Yeah. I think they did. It was a, you know, I can't remember. I'm pretty sure that was stardom. I didn't look at the quick but yeah, it was, you know, basically, like kind of dressed up as your favorite wrestler day, sort of thing that I, I can't remember the specifics behind it, but I remember her doing it. That was pretty funny. That's how she's incredibly talented. You know, cheese. You know, the over an annex t u k hopefully the American audience gets to see her morale though, I have a feeling it's going to be just on probably on big show weekends. But as long as she's able to continue to go out there and work occasionally on the indie scene. You know, at least he's going to be able to, to kind of stay in people's minds, a lot more, because she was certainly one of the hottest people out there bar. None in two thousand seventeen exactly another thing. Whereas Oscar and carried saying, what's that to take the good question? No clue Jim, and I thank you very much for the call. I am I not you to not a damn clue and page as well. You know, they're, they're mouthpiece and manager, I guess they just decided to go in a different direction with with Billy k and with the, the other young lady, their who Dave, incredibly insulted, but, but regardless, thank you. Yes, Domin my year with it. I don't care the iconic. That's it. They don't even have names anymore. They're just the iconic. They can only do one story to time the same. I can only have one thought my mind just pushes the other one out the same when it comes to them in the tag team situation. He can't build two teams at once. If you're building up some sort of weird situation with Alexa, bliss and, and. Yeah. Hell help me. Help me again dumb. See Lee that quick on the draw with last night's raw results. Nicky cross. Thank you say too late. Nikki cross also formerly of stardom, but NICKY cross, and you can only have one team, I guess be involved in the mix with Alexa doing their thing, which is certainly seems like it's going to end with a match between Alexa and NICKY cross until that time comes where they're being faced off against the iconic. No other team can function. So again, I don't know if they're floating around, I don't think there on main event, I think the Vikings experience took that spot on the last the last main event. So, yeah, I'll double check and see what they've been who. They've been working with on the house shows or anything like that. But unfortunately, for right now, at least until this, pay per view is over not involved in the mix, but got a full Baker calls coming back if you want to join those folks, he can't one eight hundred eight seven eight play on Mike, Semper v. Wrestling observer live high. Hi, it's Jamie, progressive's number one number two employee. Leave a message at the hey Jamie. 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Look for all three flavors by the cash. Register at your local holiday station store. You're listening to wrestling observer live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike. Simple Vivey on the sports, byline broadcasting network. Shoutout to angry. Peyton Royce fans angering me during break. Seems over live or back, Mike, Semper via here with you go back to the phone lines here momentarily. I will note that fight TV's Twitter side to break the news. I think they broke the news seemed to be up on on there before it was anywhere else. But we've got a match for by in before the fighter fest show. It is the best friends of Trekkie team Beretta against SCU against private party who I believe last time private party was seen they were getting thrown against the guardrail and getting beaten up and not allowed into the the the over budget battle Royal couple of weeks ago. But they are all involved in a tag team match the winner of which will advance to all out and receive a first round. Bye in the tag team tournament. So we are going to have a tag team tournament taking place on the, the all out show. And I don't know if it will the whole thing will will start and finish their I would assume it would I wonder how many teams that they're going to be, also it's just eight which means what four matches? So for two one, you know that that's not too bad with what you got the coming up as well to yet, with Kenny omega and Jon Moxley will be on that show. You have what else will be on all out as it stands right now, hangman page against Chris Jericho for the W title. So with the tag team tournament yet on a couple more and that's shaping up to be a pretty good show. And obviously the focus of a w one of their focuses as they've said is going to be on tag team. Wrestling, I'm a big tag team wrestling fan. You know, I was one of the people that bought the Crockett Cup just Tarkhan back to the, the eighties where there was just so many, great tag teams, and it was such an important part of the, the business in the mix and how you further storylines along. And I just, you know, I'm still. A big fan. So that's the one thing I'm hoping he w really does bring back. Strong is tag team wrestling. And it looks like that's how they're going to get off to the start was also been announced for that show, so far or fighter fest, John moxie, Joey Giannella and hangman page against jungle boy, Jimmy havoc in m j f that car certainly going to expand a little bit further. We did a big audio nightmare this morning really quick one Adam summer's night and it's going to be up on the side. A little later on this afternoon Adams, keep keeps blowing me up asking me where the the preview of the show is we got a little busy right now. All right. Sorry, but one of the matches that we noted was a kind of a match makes us happy, even though there's, there's no g one presence in, in Dallas of Jon Moxley. Once they go back to Tokyo. And once they go back to Japan and he has his first match and I'd have to see exactly where it's would building it's going to be in, but he's going to have his block match block play match on the thirteenth, and then it's going to be tag matches. And this is really where I'm. Interested in seeing Jon Moxley in new ban. Because obviously, you know, we saw the last match and you figure he's going to step up on a big stage. And at the very least, you know, you're probably not gonna be too disappointed. No matter who he faces off in a new Japan in a big singles match, but it's the stuff in the on the other end like he and showed me no against random Rita in Jeff Cobb on July fourteenth Sunday, July fourteenth. I love that. And I think you know, the matches he's going to be involved in both tag and six men and stuff like that. They're going to be as fun for me, as I think some of these big matches that he has coming up in his block. And there are some big ones in the block. I'll run down the list right now to you before I go back to the calls, g one block a this is your money block. This is the one that a lot of people expect to Jon Moxley to be in. But he obviously couldn't because, as I mentioned, initially a w with his North American rights, putting the kabosh on him. N being seen on access TV at least live or being seen anywhere in the United States live, but Okada, Tana Hashi. Bucci Zack sabre junior evil. Sonata bad luck, Fale, Lance Archer will Osprey and Kenta. It's a hell of a start. Black be. This is probably better for Naito and his health to, you got Naito. And she and I know. Oh, okay. Told mira. She not, not probably the best for his health, but juice Robinson. Toriano. Rocchi Goto, Jay white. Jeff Cobb John maximally Shingo and tie. If you're gonna put him in one of those categories so his body can rest a little bit. That'll probably be it, but it's also very noticeable, and we talk about this a little bit on the show today, wasn't are G one preview show or anything like that. The big one we do every year, but we, it's hard not to take a look at it and kinda take a look and see who's names were at the top of both blocks. You know, there's Okada there's time Ohashi in one. One, there's a she and the other courses Moxley and j white. And then there's Tizi Naito on the one KOTA Bucci on top of the other one and you start to wonder you know, can you top this should you top this. They probably shouldn't but will they because that's a very good possibility to be your final as lead into who's going to pick up the briefcase to face off against Okada at the end of the year? So we'll or the beginning of the year in January fourth will, we'll have to take a look at that go back to the phone lines now, one eight hundred eight seven eight play one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine Christian in Connecticut. Christian, how are you? I was first of all this long to talk about Dallas card I was amazed. I just think it's really missed opportunities for them to sell the rest of those tickets to not have tight you on that car. Kinda was kinda shocking. And with Raleigh last night to question, Percival juice D that Dana Brooker photo, she got like blustered open-wheel hard on the turnbuckle for like a main event, eating they probably won't even get shown because of it, and then also I was kinda flabbergasted, because I thought there was no way that raw was not going to end with us being Brooke listener in a wreck Shire's. And do you think that's weird? This ref storyline is going 'cause I can't think of any other real place for going with the whole, like, Seth Rollins eating of everybody who wants to do it things. Well, as far as what do you think about where the Sadr obsolete, and everybody out and what their with the decision that made events going to be? Yeah. Like, like, do you think like because I think it has to be broccoli, right? That's what I would figure. I mean the way things have been teased. I mean, but I don't I don't know if I to me, and I wanna thank you very much for the call. I'm not using Brock Leser in that position. I'm really not. This kind kinda, I don't know. It seems like a waste of me. And frankly, the way ticket sales who've been if it was going to be Brock listener. Why not just announce that at the end of the show, you know? And maybe they don't care. I mean, I can't believe they wouldn't care about the tickets. I mean, Dave and Brian talked about it last night, and wrestling observer radio. We know they've tarped off a bunch, and, you know, everybody's got to put out there about how well they've been selling. So if you're looking for something to kind of push things, I mean, I would figure Brock would be able to do that in a guarantee of Brock being there in the mix would be able to, to do that to people. So I don't know from using them there. I really don't and I don't know who the special refs going to be. But I for some reason, I just think Brock teasing that he's going to be there is okay him being there, you know in raising the briefcase up, but I just don't think I'm pulling. Out of his hands right now, especially the way TV is everything to me. I just wanna have him have that card. And I also think if he do you use Brock than Barron. Corbin's got to win the title because somebody's got a screw Seth Ron's. He's got a five. Something's got to happen. I'm not big on Seth Ron's overcoming everybody including Brock Leser and keeping his title. I don't like that idea at all. But I like the idea of, of, of a barren is champion even less. So I don't know who they're going to use in that position or you know somebody coming back. I mean, there's a bunch of people that they could use. But I saw Seth Ron's be the only baby face after going on a rampage last night. Got left lane kind of at the end of raw so him getting his revenge on barren Corbin in getting the victory in that match. That's what I wanna see now, who the referee is, and how they decide to spin things off, I guess we'll see. But I don't want brought to be that guy. I just, I don't want brought to be that guy the same way the Taichi would not be that guy to help sell out the American League. Airlines arena and I have a feeling even though he hasn't been announced yet, he might be there meets itchy. And if you don't wanna see tie just wanna see what he comes to the ring with. So there's always a possibility. He could show up. You never know back to owns Josh and Los Angeles. Josh? How are you? Hey good, Mike. How you doing? Not too bad looking at this picture of Dana, Brooke, all bloodied up and everything, so. Yeah, the ref threw up the accent. Stop the match. So Dana Bork. Bloody mess probably that will never be seen other than pictures online, but sorry about that. Go ahead nowhere. So I had two questions. I speaking of ticket sales, you know, by chances to tickets for raw last night, did particularly poorly because I know that being in the LA area, I got more aggressive advertisement than I've ever gotten before. I got like four or five emails telling me to buy tickets last week. And I got a bunch of targeted Facebook ads all throughout the week that advertise three different matches two of which didn't happen. So I didn't know if you heard anything about that. And my other question, I guess, is more of a hypothetical? But what's the point of the wildcard rule at this point? I counted it and looked at smackdown roster based off of WWE's website. And there were thirteen different people from smackdown last night, that were on raw. So it just seems like it just seems like it's back to the super super show days where there's no brand split at all anymore at this point. No, no believe you. Josh? Thank you very much for the call. I didn't hear anything about tickets, the only thing I had heard, and I think I don't know if Dave and Brian talked about it last night, I know of talking with somebody about like, you know, the two for ones and things like that the gimmicks and promotions giveaways, that they're doing up in the north west. And in the Seattle area to try to push that house and push those tickets, but didn't hear anything about LA last night, although won't be hard to find out if, if probably not by the end of the show today, certainly tomorrow. I'll, I'll forward this onto Brian do because we can find out for sure exactly what they had in there, and how things were going with the walkup, and everything on, on the lead into the into the show and everything but hard times there when it comes to when it comes to crowds g one Dallas hard time when it comes to crowds, no matter what. I mean, we're talking in glowing terms about the, the G one. But their idea to come to Dallas has not been good ring of honor is going to be Baltimore coming up for a big show. It's not even Jeff Cobb. I'm not sure exactly how the tickets are going over at UNBC you know, but it's where they are at every year for best in the world, the kind of do that. Then you go down the patriots center usually for a TV taping on that Saturday, and Sunday, I believe it is because it believed the best in the world shows a Friday. But apparently, those tickets are not doing so spectacularly so a w right now is the the only big ticket seller. Of course, that they've only got a couple of shows here under their belt in only a couple of coming up, and even they're not sold out the all out show, of course. Did you know big destination event that is basically looking like they're wrestlemainia for sure and Chicago every year now but the fighter fest show, and that other stuff? That's not sold out. And there is a little bit to mention on the fighter fest show in that Laredo kid who a lot of people have seen the. Buzz about because of the match with a he'll by Kinko. He has been added to the Pentagon match with Phoenix against the, the young bucks, and on June twenty-ninth young bucks in Kenya mega at fighter fest. So AAA Russell Laredo kid who also had time and lucianne background. I'm not sure where all see did, as well too, as far as being seen on a national scale, but he'll certainly have the opportunity teaming with Luce brothers against the young bucks and Kenny omega. So that's also been announced for June twenty ninth, as well to that a whole show on a Tuesday. We talked very little about rocking. That's okay. I'll get you set up at the smackdown preview and we get back from break. Wrestling observer live. Right now. You can get both sprints unlimited plan and the all new Samsung. Galaxy S included for just thirty five dollars per month for line for five lines. All you need is approved credit in an eighteen month lease no trade in required. Visit a sprint stores sprint dot com or call eight hundred sprint one who fifty dollars a month to twenty two fifty credit applied within two bills cancelled earlier remain available to a limited basic after six thirty twenty eight thirty two dollars per month per line for five lines without a pay day to day organization during your kitchen speed maximum. Restrictions apply. Right now. You can get both sprints unlimited plan and the all new Samsung. 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And dolph Ziglar squaring off his stomping grounds as near yet to their, their whole headline here for this what their, their WWE, speak woods, Zickler mixed it up, numerous times and sigler's return last month, including chaotic brawl on raw that saw the two wildcards battle all over the arena woods. Of course, ultimately played a vital role in the WWE title match super showdown, which led to dolph petitioning for a stitch steel cage rematch at stomping grounds will save get one last measure, retribution against Ziglar before his new day. Brother Kofi gets Adam next Sunday or will the show off make the ultimate statement to Kingston by downing his friend just fight nights before they're still page clash. I don't care because doll Sigler is not going to be Kofi Kingston. And if you're Kofi Kingston fan, you have the same concern, the many other Kofi Kingston fans do which is Brock Lessner takes the title off of him and goes to FOX on smackdown in the fall before he ever takes it off of Seth Rollins which I can definitely see that taking place Valiente Alexa, bliss on a moment of bliss before the stomping grounds match that they're going to have for the WWE women's title. What will be the fallout Roman reigns. Attack on McMahon McIntyre, Daniel Bryan, and Rohan finally accept heavy machineries challenge, and can are truth hang onto the twenty four seven championship. Exciting stuff. I'm mostly looking forward to Carmelo and Autry to, to be honest with. You can't blame me. By the way, they follow up on the Titus O'Neil stuff from last night, too. I'm WW dot com or anywhere else. You will find your WW video so that will be explained more in full in, in case you're curious. Case you're curious, we're here every single day tomorrow. 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Hour 2: Clemson QB Drama

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46:07 min | 2 years ago

Hour 2: Clemson QB Drama

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This is sports center right now month only at the Collins. The numbers don't lie when it comes to the cowboy sluggish offense. Dallas has scored forty one points, three games, the fewest start a season since nineteen ninety. Now in their last five games dating back to last season, Dallas going twelve points per game last in the NFL. The Cowboys are also second to let them passing yards over that same span only the cardinals have been worse. Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones was asked on local radio, getting ready to make significant changes. If things don't turn around. A locker players like our coaching staff. We've seen them perform the way it's like, can play at those levels and you can go right down to the position when you lose a game and you come in on Monday, it's never as bad as it seems. You can always find some bright spots. Opposite is true. When you win, you can go in and are surprise that you see some of the things you can improve on. That's that's just the nature of what we're doing. But I think the question is, have I hit the panic button answers now. Now back to I take. Founding. Thank you. Will Cain Damien Woody here with us good to see you? My man will how we doing good morning doing all right. Yeah, I love that will like was talking about they were an elite team three games in, is it time for them to hit the panic button and the question? Yeah. Well, bet you do love it. I'll bet. Well, your bet is right. Well, Hugh star, Jerry Jones says they should hit the panic and they shouldn't. Do you think they should. Not yet. But if I'm an optimist here's my point, at least very. Listen, stop. You laugh. Just started talking. Give me a second. Here's here's the truth. The matter I'm so happy. Jerry acknowledged that there is a panic button if there's one in Dallas, if there's one up there in Frisco at the star, can we all go over to the panic button and hover our hands over it like this? I don't agree, not yet Jerry, but I'm glad you found it. It was in the back room. Apparently back there back there behind Jason's office. He was hiding it or he in Scotland him have a panic room. That's where the panic button is. And if you get that button just kinda hover your hand over because this offense, it's garbage. Okay. And I don't know if it can be fixed the here here. Here's the pessimism. Here's the optimism. Pessimism is man. The whole offense ones backwards. I mean, the the defensive line, whoever they're playing Carolina, New York or Seattle, they're pushing forward. Dak is backing up the receivers running, comeback roots, its third, nine and guess how far the roots go, nine yards. They go nine yard, run curl, and everybody's pushing back with the. Whole damn banks designed to go backwards. So my point is, can we maybe get somebody arming things play calling? I don't dare Garrett instead hand that's not gonna fix it because it's a design problem. My only hope though here's the optimism is once upon a time. There was a guy named Tony Romo who this offense was designed for and it was complicated and with sophisticated and it was a pro offense, and he got hurt in a matter of weeks that Prescott had to step in the simplify it, and they made an offense that worked. If there's a panic button and you can hover over and you can get back to those days where you can simplify and help back. Execute offense. That is that is that is one that he's run before that's worked well. Then maybe we don't have hit the panic button, but maybe we can. That's what I was gonna ask. What exactly does this panic button do? Like let's say the question is not like, do you hit it? Where is it? It's like when you press it, what happens then? Change your quarterback and by the way you should you change your coach. Well, of course you should. And will that's truly hilarious that the offense is designed to go back. Release a directional problem. They just need to reverse the offense. Start going forward. Promo seen they don't have enough talent at receiver. There's just they don't have talent receiver. This is a passing league. You cannot win building your offense around the running back. You need in even if you wanna do that, you need talented receiver. And here's what the panic button really should do. If it wants to have an effect to panic button like what seat visit Jecht is it? The coaches at the quarterback is seeded, shouldn't get owner. It has been twenty going on twenty three years since the last Super Bowl, they have won three playoff games in twenty three years. At a certain point, Jerry Jones has to look in the mirror and say, like, how does he answer to that? What you have done is not good enough. Forget about Cowboys fans who have high expectations for any team. It's not good enough. You are failing. Jerry Jones has failed to consistently put out a competitive project, a product that can compete in the playoffs for twenty. Three years. So the problem with a panic button is the seat it needs to check is the owner and he ain't a jetting himself what we all know that number one number two and more importantly, history -ality the situation as it pertains to this specific team, how about just gives Zeki Elliott, the damn ball. It ain't complicated. You built the team for the running game. Y'all. -fensive line isn't what it used to be, but it's not pathetic the fact that Amanda is you have a guy in Zeke Elliott that average more than seven yards a carry last week against Seattle as still only got the ball about sixteen times. That's just inexcusable particularly when you consider the fact that they were idiotic and let go a Dez Bryant, they need to call pick up the phone, call him, ask him to come over his house for visit, apologized him and bring him back to the damn team because you don't only have a number one option. You don't have a number two options. Death. Jerry Jones went to the beyond, say, concerts together, so you don't do something like that. So the point is go get das- back. Okay. To get some kind of option because Alan earns clearly is not that dude. You're not even targeting him for crying out loud and give Zeke Elliott football a minimum of twenty five times a game. It's really not gonna do for you. Stephen. Well, it's going to help you offense. Number one, number two, the move to change and then keep the defense off the field for Chuck a period of time. They would have a better shot at upside wasn't really. What what really side is that they'll have a better shot at winning football games. This is not. This is not an elite team point is it doesn't. They're not an elite team, but he's an elite player. So you give him the damn bowl, you rod the way, give him the ball twenty five times a day and call it a day. That's what you do. It Zeki leli here's the problem with the Dallas Cowboys. What is their identity? Whether they are, I know what you're speaking of long-term. The like the big was out of line who was ofensive long, right? Yeah, there's no identity when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys and then you gotta play calling Scotland ahead where your best weapon, you're not feeding him. The raw listening note. Listen, everyone knows everyone if that because they're behind in games. No, that's not the case. I mean, you know, you're talking about the game. They were running back. You don't occur. They were ended the whole way. Listen, the defense, the defense accident playing well, they got divas online to get after people all we know what they have on the outside. They don't have what nonce outside, but what you do, you have the lead running back in the backfield guess what? Run the ball playing. Good divas can take you places now. Now can it take you to win the Super Bowl, stacked of the NFC is no. But if you're the Dallas Cup with you're looking for immediate solution, you got up the carriers and the production from Zeke Elliot and rely on that one. This is somewhere take you. It would take you Damian to the play offs. I truly think running game like you just described could take you to the playoffs and then let's see what happens. Here's what they would tell you. Okay. Molly asked you, why aren't they doing that is because they're behind and games. I guarantee you Damien, this is what Scotland ahead would tell you, although we're not behind by big, we're behind the chains. They'd tell you, we take penalties. It's first and fifteen, or I in twenty. And then you can't run the ball. I agree with you in Stephen when Zeke Elliott's averaging seven yards a rush. Guess what three of them get your first down on. I in twenty. So keep giving it to Zeke. I agree with you and Steven one hundred percent fifteen carries done cut Stephen a. about the desk thing. The truth matters. I can't go with you because you know what happened. Here's the truth matter if they signed Desmond, they wouldn't throw it to him. I mean it the problem is I actually think tape on Austin can play. I think take on Austin can stretch a defense. I think tailing can get behind the defense, but laughable that's. Let's think about this. Move on deep table on Austin there, one for one for sixty yards and a touchdown. Death row that was laughable here is you're talking about a guy who's really a gimmicky. Why? Receiver as being your one legitimate threat about that, Dallas Cowboys this Jason. Jason measured before. So this offense is averaging the second fewest points per game in the entire league in second fewest yards. So struggling to say the least, but Jerry Jones guys, big, Jerry reveals NFL networks, football life that Tony Romo will one day be in the ring of honor saying, I don't think of anybody that could be more deserving than someone that's made a huge contribution to this franchise than Tony Romo. I figure Jimmy Johns. It's Romo deserving of this used. This is what ring of honor's are for ring of like there was a Tony Romo era, and they had some success in limited ways, and he was very good player, and that's what ring of honor's are for the Yankees have monument park and Paul O'Neil and Bernie Williams. We're all stars but not hall of famers quite could make an argument for Bernie their monument. Poor. This is what ring of honor's for this is a really good player. He's in our hall of fame, says the Dallas Cowboys. He's not in the league wide hall of. Same put. He's. He was our hall of Famer. There was an era called the Tony Romo era. He was a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback in some years. He had an excellent career that is precisely what this honor is designed for. And he's the perfect player for listening. When you look at Tony Romo, think about where he came from this guy that went undrafted. Okay. Undrafted when we think of all the great players with the Dallas Cowboys, the Troy Aikman Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin these guys were high picked twenty Romo did it the hallway by coming up, earn a job and becoming one of the better quarterbacks in the National Football League period. I think everyone gets caught up in the moments where the playoff game up in Seattle way fumbled snap. We've seen the type of planes from Tony Romo Embiid. But overall, when you look at the body of work of Tony Romo, he's absolutely deserving to being a cowboy, you know, bring on or slash hall of it. He's never going to be. I don't think he's ever. Going to be in the NFL the thing because he's, he's never elevate him up to that level. But for the Cowboys what best his best. He was similar level to a hall of Famer for a short time. He didn't have the career to get into the hall of fame, correct. Goffin. Here comes the Scrooge my goodness look at his face. Let me get you to go on one. Go ahead. Bob for past the Stephen aid. Kevin hart. On negative pessimism. But here's the deal. Listen to this calls for rain. Let's be clear. Tim Tibo is not my only friend. It's also Tony Romo we're at the pleasure meeting and talking to last year. I like Tony Romo. I really do seventy eight and forty. Nine Reckitt completed sixty five percent of his passes throughout his career. Tony Romo could ball, Tony Romo is to be respected, but let's understand something here. If we're talking about the Jerry Jones Cowboys. Absolutely. He deserves to be the ring of honor. We're talking about the Dallas Cowboys and what this supposed to stand for. It doesn't mesh. The reality is this where we talk about Michael Irvin me talk about Emmett Smith. We talk about Troy when we talk about damning Woodson when we talk about Nate Newton and others, we're talking about Super Bowl champions. We're talking about perennial playoff contenders. We're not talking about a quarterback that quarterback the Dallas Cowboys for ten years and has two playoff victories on his entire decade long resume. That's what we're talking about here with Tony Romo. Now understand that you don't win the Super Bowl. I do get that, but you know what? Danny white didn't win the super. We sit up in the fact that you know what? Okay. He wasn't Roger starbuck, but he could ball in the Dallas Cowboys win the playoffs. And they were making noise and they lived up to the mantra of America's team. They weren't a joke. They won't be summarily dismissed. They want the job. So Saturday Night Live and everywhere else. They didn't have people like me looking at it and talk about. Hot, go to America was a great country. What are you talking about? Merica team. What the hell is the Dallas Cowboys done as max would say in the last twenty three years, ten of those years, Tony Romo was the quarterback. You got to win three playoff games minimum in one year to win the Super Bowl. This man ain't went to play away. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on this. Let me. Let me ask you a quick lawyer. You say Tony Romo was a ball, correct? He bald right? He was no scrub now. I don't think it's fair to Tony Romo to compare him to era where we had Choi eight-minute Ammon Smith, Michael Irvin. Arrogant man. Air and Roussell that we haven't heard from well yet. That's right. That's right. From the voice of I'll take that area and I'm not long. Gets annoyed with voiceover thority zip, their credibility to say that I don't. Lexus. Your annoyance level is at a zero of care for me, I don't care. How would you say what you tug on your white undershirt get loosened up? 'cause I'm coming. Okay. Two. Damion. Let me tell you something Damien. Troy. Aikman, Roger, starbuck. Stephen Abrams up. Danny white proud franchise. Five, Super Bowls. Three of them came in the Jerry Jones era. The Stephen a. brings up, do you know who leads his franchise in yards touchdowns completion percentage like advanced at yards per attempt one, Tony Romo you don't like those areas of changed. How about this fourth quarter comebacks, Tony, Romo game. Bryce Lena passing league game. Winning drives the Tony Romo, but here's the thing, although it's a given, he'll be in the ring of honor. I'm gonna tell you one more thing now yet. Do you know what I think now yet? I don't think he should be done. I think Tony Romo could step in to, I don't know what handful of teams the NFL right now be a starting quarterback and lead them to success. He's a year and a half removed for three quarters headaches quarters, and he gets hurt. All it takes his one shot. Man, one Damian that applies to everybody in life. All it takes is one shot. Yeah, but. Yeah, but. Noticed about, I got, I got, you know, what will I'll give y'all a simple question sask just asking, I understand that Jerry Jones three Super Bowl rings. I totally get that with urban, Emmett, Troy and all this other stuff. I get that one thousand nine hundred. They haven't done anything since all I'm saying is this of quarterback that is quarterback, Joe t- for ten years and has two playoff victories to show for it that don't bother you. Can I just say one thing in response to that based on the last conversation we had in retrospect, as we look at Tony romo's career, can't we all come together on this, whatever he did statistically playoff victories, playoff losses. Can't we all agree now he did it in spite of Jason Garrett. He did in spite of the coaching staff, whatever he did he did with wasn't. To be fair Bill parcell and to be family Phillips. Tony Romo years came between ofensive line for the Cowboys were they had a great offensive line in the nineties, a great one. Recently, he did not have that kind of protection. Fortunately, we're out of time, Damon, you will be back with us a little bit later. We'll Cain. We'll check you it on radio, the Wilkin show three to six eastern ESPN radio ESPN news after the Stephen Smith show. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like this. It's good. It's it's, it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Sportscenter right now on other Collins season number sixteen officially beginning for LeBron James, the three-time NBA champion joined his Lakers teammates for their first official practice yesterday. Afterwards during the media session LeBron was thrown for a loop by one reporter's question on the LA fan base expect to earn their respect in earn their loyalty, the fan base. The fan base. The man to say they wanna see you respect. Deal. You want me to. Talk to them outside of here yesterday, send some for your deal. I'm here so. Hit me. I know what I brings him. Say won't a floor. Now back to I take. The Brian was a film that question. He's like, who me right LeBron he's right. I mean four year commitment, but he's right for a couple of reasons. So let's get into it. So what does he need to do to be accepted by these Lakers fans in particular? Well, first of all, in terms of a couple of things, a couple of Lay's to this. Let me get the obvious out of the way. Nobody needs to be asking LeBron James a question about respect. He's the best player in the world, the greatest player in the world. He's the three time champion. He's been a nine MBA found is the four time lead people to hell. You mean respect. Okay. And in the six year he's still recognizes the best of the world. So of course he's going to sit up there and look at respect. How did this person asked me that question. They bring up the word loyalty. He's there and four year comment. That's where he from the question loyalty. Because how the hell are you asking him about loyalty demand signed a four year deal to a franchise that hasn't been at the playoffs at five years. That's what are we talk about loyalty. So let's get that out. The way, but let me take this to the next level in terms of what he owes, the city, a Los Angeles. You owe the machine. And here is why, because as I said earlier, there is no superstar in the history of the Lakers franchise that has Donna purposely go other than Elgin Baylor who retired the year. They won the title year. They want to tease and he retired that year. Okay. And this is after you lost eight finals. Okay. So again, the one chance he had to get it is, oh eight. He, you know, he retired that year. Be clear about something. Where you are megastar the magnitude of LeBron if you don't win a championship in LA, you pretty much would have been only one that didn't do it outside of Belgium, Bill, Mike, and did it Jabbar day we'll cable it, did it shack, did it magic? Did it Colby, did it, etc. The superstar. Jerry West, of course, the superstars every mega superstar who has played for the Lakers has won a chip. So in the floor years that LeBron has committed to Los Angeles, you don't want to be the one guy that didn't bring it home. You covered that I was going to bring that up, but you covered it already. I want to add two things. One. There are a lot of Lakers fans all over the world. They're the number one franchise in the history of basketball. It's not close. Sorry, Celtics fans. There championships, have come all in the modern era, practically out of the sixteen ten of them have come since nineteen seventy nine, nine hundred eighty two, the Celtics, four. So the Lakers are the brand magic Showtime, the whole thing. But there are also a lot of Kobe fans because the events metrics don't love Kobe as much as they should because the game changed underneath Kobe's feet and it doesn't value values efficiency more and LeBron getting all this love is is he challenging? Jordan is the greatest player of all time and Kobe fans know what they saw. They lived through that era. Kobe was basically Michael Jordan, almost the same game, almost the same results. He was it's not even fair to call a Michael Jordan light. He was close and they don't see him getting the love. So they have Kobe has his own fans, many of them. There's an overlap in the Vendee Graham. Kobe fans and Laker fans the shaded areas big. But that doesn't mean all Lakers fans or Kobe fans, vice versa. Kobe fans are jealous about LeBron they're mad and they're jealous because he's getting love in a way that they feel what you guys already forgot about. Kobe won championship. If you're a Laker superstar, you gotta win one. I feel the brunt. He's like, look at a four year deal. I'm committed to your sorry franchise recently. You guys should be kissing my but not asking me. These questions is right about that actually, but Lakers fans like all right, man. But this is the expectations in LA one championship is necessary, but you really want to forget about win too. And he's in, you know, Wilt Chamberlain is not loved in LA the way shack or Cooper or magic or Kareem is, and it's not just about he happened longer ago. It's not just about that. It's about the length of time to go down. You know, Kobe this whole career. There Wilt Chamberlain Spencer, but one of the things I was only going to be there. I was only going to be like LeBron was this unstoppable all time. Great force who got there at the end. You win a couple in l. a. you're in, you're in the inner sanctum. He's going to need to win a couple. Let me get to the team that's going to be standing in their way. So after the season Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, we'll both be up for max jails and if they both stay, the warriors will have a projected luxury tax Bill, one hundred and thirty eight million dollars. When asked if this was the last ride for this team, Steve Kerr said, the warriors aren't looking at this like a final dance max. How realistic is it that Steve's Kerr's wishes come true? It's realistic, but it hinges on one thing and that Steph Curry's health. You can change any other part on the warriors even dream on green. If you had the right kind of player, like if you swapped out dream on for Saint PJ Tucker, I'm not saying they would be quite as good, but this doing the championship if you swapped out clay for, I can think of guys. I mentioned Danny green and a good year. They're still gonna win the championship. If you swapped out Kevin Durant for Paul, Georgia's some fact simile even if it's not. Quite as good. They're still the point is whether or not even they win the championship. That's still the warriors. There's going to be right there. It's about Steph, curry, if Steph stays healthy Steven, he's the only non replaceable part on that team. If Steph stays healthy, they got a shot because every other part you can mix and match and bring in an approximation for can't do that with Steph. Yeah, the differences though he can't do as much by himself as the others could do, and that's why you need somebody to be there, which is why the focus has to be on a or warriors organization as opposed to Steph. Steph is locked in at two hundred, seven million dollars. Klay Thompson does not want to leave at least at this particular moment in time he's given every indication that he wants to stay, but he hasn't signed that extension. So to be interested, interesting. What they're going to do with him. Do you then pay Draymond green, who's a vital component to their success? Do you pay Kevin Durant? Assuming he wants to stay? Do you make a choice between those two? And if so, who do you. Pick and by the way now that you've got Anthony Davidson mix, Anthony Davis, Asaba clutch boys, and because of one reason. And one reason only they can talk about whatever they want to talk about. Anthony Davis ain't standing in the right he's out. So you're talking New York. You're talking l. a. you're talking Golden State. Those are the teams to keep the is on now and to a lesser degree Boston because of the parts that they have. You know, in the event that you want to trade somebody and you get him, even though I don't see that happening. The point that I'm trying to make is that that's what you're looking at with Anthony Davis, and we're right now. What you're seeing is the focal point being paid to Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis because wherever one goes the others not going and it might compel the other either stay go to stay or go to go state because Kevin Durant leaves. So you just never know in the end. Joe lake up this man and his ownership group is willing to spend the money to move that they're having to San Francisco is significant because they're printing money. I, I spoke to people at that paid for season tickets that were paying one hundred and forty thousand a year and the prices. Has gone up to over half a million dollars. Why? Because with the new arena and San Francisco and everything else, they'll be printing money. They got the money to do it that ain't got the money to do it. And so when you look at it from that perspective, it's a matter of, okay, this team was Steve Kerr says what he says, what you really are you really talking about keeping these boys intact or keeping a couple and transit what means end up just keeping the secure what you're saying by the way, just as an aside, just quickly, Anthony Davis with a healthy Kristaps Porzingis on the Knicks or Anthony Davis on Boston or any team. You mentioned AD going to your like you get like, chills, thinking about what could happen, but that's you're making my point. That's what I mean. You can swap out these different parts. It still the warriors, the one irreplaceable part, the hardest guy to swap out is Steph. That's why I'm saying if Steph stays health and that's not even. You can get. Zadie algebra because he signed the on the healthy, the issues the he's had, an injury can both leave k. d. can leave. So all three of them. Sports in a right now. I'm on the Collins a day after being bench for true freshman, Trevor Lawrence, Clemson, quarterback, Kelly, Brian missed practice on Tuesday for undisclosed reasons. And today's announce he is transferring schools under new unsuitability retro guidelines by leaving Clemson. Now, Brian can salvage his final Europe eligibility. He has not decided where he will spend it. Brian told this to the Greenville news quote, I feel like it's what's best for me and my future. I was just going to control what I could control and try to make the most of my opportunity. But at the end of the day, I just don't feel like I've got an affair shot. Here's coach Dabo Sweeney this morning of Bryant's decision. Disappointed that he's chosen to leave the team, but I really have absolutely nothing bad that I say about Kelly, Brian. He's one of the best young people I've ever been around. And even though I don't think this is a great decision. I certainly respect respect it and it doesn't change anything that I feel for Kelly. All I can say is, is another program wherever wherever we decided to go going to get a quality quarterback in a very quality young man, and we appreciate everything that Kelly gave with this program. You know what's so perfect. Paul finebaum just showed up just in the nicotine you as always try to save the show after Kevin Hart was here shaved. Now. Roasted me, he rose to me call the past, but we'll deal with that later. Excuse me while I I'm just tempted because I was listening to dabble. And I gotta ask you this question and your estimate, was he fair to Kelly? Bryant? He was Kelly. Bryant had the job. He he lost it, and that's the way it goes. I I don't like the way he he's uttered that parting shot, but that's his business. I think Davos Sweeney could have misled him and started him this week, and then he couldn't have left. You would have handcuffed them instead. He gave him the truth, which is what college coaches should do, and they all don't. What do you are you saying? I wasn't given a fair shot. He started last year. He led the team to the national semifinals. He was good, not great. And this year us given a fair shake, in other words, think so. By the way he did, I think without Kelly Bryant, they wouldn't have beaten Texas am. So maybe I'm sure that's within his his DNA. But in the end, Trevor Lawrence is the heir apparent. I don't think Clemson could win a national championship with Kelly Bryant. I think they showed that lecture, Alabama, shut him down in that semifinal game. I'm not saying they can with Trevor Lawrence, but I think they have a better chance. I was just going to ask you to back it up and you touched on some of it in terms of just how we got to this position. We got this because there's this new rule that went into effect this summer and just think about this for a second. Molly I mentioned the Alabama Clemson game last year, the national semifinal the two starters once gone from Clemson, the other one has been relegated to backup. That's how things change. So quickly. I know the in the NFL it you can turn on a dime, but that's a different sport college football. We're not accustomed to this, but we've already seen it at the highest level. Clemson and Alabama are the two best programs in the country. And the starter in last year's game is that is that is part of the reason they're the best programs in the country is because they are willing to do these kind of things. Yes, I think so. No Daboh has handled the differently than Nick Sabin. I think he was very upfront shaven baby the situation with Jalen hurtin. It looks like he's going to get away with it. I don't think Jalen hurts is going to bail out now, but gave it hurts situation with Brian is a little bit different. Jalen hurts. If he left today, which still have two years it, Brian had played Saturday against Syracuse. He's done. He couldn't go anywhere. So there's a big difference. Trevor Lawrence talked to me about this guy because again, you went to the national college football playoff you were competing for national championship with Kelly Bryant. You pointed out how you helped you, Texas, and the obviously has a quality skill set. Talk to the nation about Trevor Lawrence of what discovery to the table that's essentially justifies dabbled saying Kelly, Bryant, you can leap. I think it's similar to what we were to eat. Some more much more complete quarterback. He's a much better passer and Kelly, Brian Kelly, Brian did not have a great skill set, and I think what you have in Davos Sweeney and Nick Sabin, and perhaps even with urban Meyer, he went through a three quarterback situation for years ago is that it's no longer good enough just to have a good starter and try to get to your championship game. These. These guys are all at the at the highest level. And I think Sabin and dabble are thinking, can I win the title with this guy? And the answer is no, we're going to make a change and we're going to make a change now every year. It seems like just changing too because the Stanford game against Oregon was unbelievable. And every year it feels like they don't have the talent now. Right? Like they're not. And then David Shaw somehow has them in a situation where they're going to. Notre Dame. Can they win at Notre Dame? I don't think so. But the factor in this position is all due to Mario Cristobal who just flat out blue that game insurance been talked about. You down the ball, you take a knee. The game's over it's inexcusable. I really feel badly for those Oregon players, but Stanford took advantage of it max and I'm not ready to proclaim Notre Dame a great team because they beaten good, not great Michigan team, and they went on the road and beat white cars. I haven't really done much more, but I think at home in that environment at night, there's a lot added energy that I think will propel them to a narrow victory over Stanford. One of the things I'm paying attention to because of this, the SEC's system, I'm paying attention that LSU they're undefeated. They climb climbing the charts, their fifth in the AP poll or whatever. Then I'm looking at this quarterback, Joe borough, and I'm saying, man is completing forty, nine percent of his passes. And I just say to myself once again, LSU doesn't have a passive gain. What what is going on at LSU? What do you think about this team? And how far do you think they can go in light of what I just pointed. Out. I don't think they can go very far and the reason is very simple. The schedule will eat them alive. They have Georgia coming up in a few weeks at home. They have Mississippi State which debatable, and then they have Alabama. If you can't be Georgia, Alabama, and it's bad luck that they get Georgia this year and they also go to Florida, which is their cross rival. I see. At least we lost his job. Earl is he's an upgrade from what they had, which was nothing. LSU has not a quarterback, I think since Menton burger and he was transferred from Georgia. So that's been the undoing of less miles and whether it's Dan doing that ores Ron, I'm not sure, but he's this is just a quick fix right now. I'll talk to me. I would deem the biggest game of the weekend, Ohio State Penn State, ranked fourth and ninth respectively. Urban Meyer's back. How big of a test is it's going to be for him or. I think it's massive. And I think if you look, where are the most difficult places to play in America? I think on a Saturday night, Happy Valley. It has to be one of the top two or three. And we're going to, we're going to find out. I think I still believe this is a really great football team. Losing Bosa hurts, hurts them badly, but I'm, I'm going to give them a slight edge to get out of there. And if they do that, they have overcome their toughest Haskett the you'd think they got a shot to be better than Clemson? Yes. Right now, I think Alabama and Ohio State are the two teams country. I, I'm just not impressed Thompson. I think it's evident by what Daboh did he. He's not happy either. They still can't understand them struggling. I watched am last weekend's, Alabama, Alabama played. It's a b, minus e plus game. And I had almost they probably should have had a four, five touchdown win they. They had a pedestrian twenty three point victory which no one was happy about, especially because they didn't cover the spread. Always. He's usually fashioned police, but I really like this whole look today. I wanted to make you more to keep up with the doing just fine. I'm breaking the Bank. I think this Wednesday appearance. I got you. Yep, you guessed it. I'm a speed bump, so I've got one job. I slow you down. So imagine how I feel about Geico who does way more like not only could they save you money on car insurance, but they've been around for over seventy five years, giving people fast and friendly claim service. Ow. Plus they got an empty mobile app that gives you twenty four, seven access ow. Just doing my job buddy Geico expect great savings and a whole lot more. American football ESPN NFL power rankings are out with the undefeated Rams, taking the top spot followed by the undefeated chiefs, the eagles Jags and saints round out the top five Damien Woody backing with us back. So I'll start with you which seems more likely to make the Super Bowl, the Rams because they're the best team. It's not that hard a conference you play, whatever else. The Rams are loaded everywhere. Special teams like FM everywhere. The three phases of the game, all their phases are better than everyone else's phase practically, they're just as good. They are absolutely loaded. And really the question comes down to how is Jared Goff gonna play in the playoffs. Right? Like last year, there was a sense about the Rams, but actually the saints were the favorite pick of a lot of people including me. 'cause you trusted drew Brees in the playoffs. You weren't sure about golf. This team is better than it was last year. Jared Goff know, has playoff experience. They are the best team in football. And when you look at the other contenders. Where's the? I'll let you guys have the chiefs, but where's the defense will listen. I think. Thank you looking at it from the wrong, the wrong angle. Here I'm going to go with the path of least resistance. When you look at between the two teams, we let you always argue with listen, when you look at the chiefs, we all everyone knows about pet Mahomes in an office, a fire power that they have. But when you look at the AFC as conference compared to NFC clearly, we know that the NFC is stacked with possible contenders that could come out at that conference when you when you look at the AFC usually talking about the usual suspects, New England, his Berg, but who else is really out there that you can just definitively say that they could possibly possibly get in the way of the Kansas City as opposed to the NFC where you have a plethora teams that could even even as great as the Los Angeles Rams. Look, there's teams in net conference that could trip up the Rams on their way to a Super Bowl. So I gotta go with the Kansas City Chiefs. That's why I'm going. And the reason why I'm going also because of this reason, the Rams plate and this fall. The opened the season against the raiders you have to deal with overrated nation. John gruden's turned all of that hoopla and stuff like that associated within it in the second half reality slap them in the face because there was no Khalil Mack to get to Jared Goff. And what have you game number two. You're going up against Sam, Bradford and ONA cardinals, and we know how pathetic that they are this year. So when we look at it from that perspective, bottom line is this. I look at the Los Angeles Rams and I'm not questioning or doubting them any stretch, but I'm more impressed what I have seen from the Kansas City Chiefs who are absolutely prolific and lethal offensively. I know he's a lot because of Patrick Mahomes my mentality has been, have you seen Kareem hunt entire eek hill and Travis Kelsey and Sammy Watkins? Have you seen these guys get so open? And you see them protection that he's been given, sitting back drawing, pay know, taking pictures call and his girl telling them what? And he going to be home, call a mom and pop saying, got loved the y'all. I'll be home that hold on a second. Let me throw this. In just a second end and not get back to answering the call. This is how comfortable this man has been in the pocket throwing a football for the Kansas City Chiefs. So I'm looking at it from the perspective that collectively offensively they have been lethal and I don't believe the Los Angeles challenge. Look at look, Stephen, they can't stop anyone and I'll tell you about the I agree they seen weaker in the NFC, but these things are hard to tell actually come playoff time. Like, do I know that the that, let's say the Vikings and the saints and the eagles are going to be tougher than the Jags and the chargers the chiefs week. One beat the chargers. You know why they beat the chargers other than the fact that Mahomes is out of his mind and all those weapons. You mentioned Stephen a. and they got a quarterback whisperer for a coach and all that stuff. They also beat them because the because Philip rivers normally very sure handed receivers. He kept dropping dimes and they kept dropping the ball. Otherwise, I think the chargers probably win that game. And when they get Bosa back, I think they're going to be the class of the AFC. But you also have a team like Jacksonville with a great. Defense and playoff experience. I'm just saying when you can't stop anyone and the chiefs can't stop anyone. Allows yards tough for me to say happy for today for one thing that is interesting about the Rams and I want to get your thought on this. I know that formidable defense and they've got sue and Aaron, Donald and all that. But they're actually allowing five yards per rush that's twenty-seventh in the NFL. So they've struggled a little bit stopping the run, which is surprising on top of that, you've got both Qantas hurt right now, and they're going to be missing. You know, from the reports going to be missing significant time. That's that's gonna. That's gonna play play into this whole thing. Put again, I'll go back to, I'm if I'm putting if I'm putting money down. And I'm looking at the conferences. I want to take the conference that's weaker. Give me the more likely chance of getting to the Super Bowl in the least the least resents us the passing of this ranch. Like they had to thin out the defense in order to get Dominic and sue and stuff like that. They had to do sign Todd Gurley, and that the bring in those corners who are now hurt. But if this was heading into the playoffs, I would agree, but actually an injury like injuries like that kind of happened at the right time early in the season, assuming health for those players because member, they're not going to have to play these games. Now they're going to be back at full strength guys. They're just loaded a house. I wanna see, I wanna see him. I wanna see him tomorrow night when they play Minnesota by Minnesota Vikings that got their hands stomped on by the Buffalo Bills, you don't think they to balance your home without. Without without their corners on that. The only thing that annoys me about Max's position is that it comes from you, and here's what I mean by that you cover boxing, there's a lot of guys that look pretty until they get hit. You know that better than anybody. I do not understand for the life of me why you repeatedly ignore that when it comes to other sports who you're competing against matters. If a guy sat in front of max Kellerman and he sat up there and he was in a ring and he was shadow boxing, maximum max would not go like this. Damn, he looks really, really good match will go like this. Let me see you get hit and then I will pass judgment. But when it comes to football players and basketball, these other. Real quick. They both played the chargers, the Rams and the chiefs, and the Rams beat the chargers much more handily than the chiefs did. And when the chiefs beat the chargers, it was due to receivers dropping the ball if you at the judge just on the common opponent Rams better real quick because we gotta go saints or eagles. Who do you like better? Saint so eagles? Yeah. I'm gonna head say eagles. Okay. To say right now, the saints defense is a senior. Right now Damian appreciate you. We will help you. It hasn't been the start. The Jon Gruden was hoping for starting, oh, and three, but says they will turn it around. He also said that while he thinks Derek Carr has played well under very tough circumstances. He thinks cars trying too hard at times max, you concur with that? No, I don't think that's what's going on. First of all, if the head Khalil Mack, they'd be two in one. I think it's pretty obvious. They're missing a pass rush. He's the best in the game. I told everyone before the season, that guy is going to be the best defensive player in football this year. I think I was right so far. The issue is this on offense. Amari Cooper has to get the ball period and you got a quarterback whisperer and Jon Gruden offense of guru who always has that stud wide receiver. And you have a quarterback with a big arm, and you have a guy who is big fast. Smart does everything will why isn't he getting the ball? If Amari Cooper gets the ball, if you target him consistently, the offense will work. And if not, you're gonna continue to lose games. We have no disagreement here. Amari Cooper has targeted eighteen. So has Jalen rich and you look at Gerry Jordy Nelson comes over from Green Bay. He's thirty three years of age, so has some speed on them. We understand it, but he's not what it used to be. He's been targeted sixteen times and you got Jared cook has been talking to twenty times what you see is a Gruden offense that spreading the floor around your dishes. -ly respite in a ball around judiciously. But what you don't see is an Oakland Raiders squad that is recognizing a young stud that they had that have back to back thousands yard seasons before he got injured and then came back last year and struggled last year. You don't see the rate of saying, this is odd guy deal with this man. You see Jon Gruden trying to show his brilliance as an acute off of offense of football mind. And as a result, the defense has been compromised because you let go a Khalil Mack and offense. You're compromising debit card because you're not really developing true chemistry would a pride of guy. You need. Who's the young? It's always easy in football is like naming the star player. In this case, it is Khalil. Mack goes Amari. Cooper is not Amari Cooper because you won't get on the bowl. He is there any way to defend him. Trading Cleal MAC, I know he'll name a few seconds. Left of depends on how it's this. It's the thought process that you've got a lot of holes to fill and that you're going to remake your team with guys who you pick and if you hit on those first round draft picks than yes, one has nothing to do with the other. But if I if I could find one hundred million dollars for coach that has a one as a coach in ten years, and then went one to win a playoff game in the previous Dix dam shook Afam money for Khalil Mack out of found money for Khalil. Mack Ness. Yeah. Thanks so much real thing to the podcast. Could I take weekdays, ten AM eastern on ESPN.

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What's the gig economy?

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What's the gig economy?

"Today's episode is brought to you by IBM. What kind of tech company does the world need today? One that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise, not just for some, but for all with a blockchain and quantum technology. We're developing smart scalable technologies that help businesses work better together. Let's expect more from technology. Let's put smart to work. Visit IBM dot com slash smart. To learn more. Hello there. It's me, Josh. And I just wanted to let you know, people living in Minneapolis or with access to Minneapolis are going to be in your city doing my solo show, the end of the world, or how I learned to start worrying and love humanity. It's a gas and it's pretty interesting too. So in June nineteenth, albeit at the Parkway theater in Minneapolis, and the next night, I'll be at the miracle theatre in Washington DC. So come see me, go to d- miracle theatre dot com or the Parkway, theater dot com for tickets. Welcome to step, you should know a production of heart radios. How stuff works? Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant. And there is our guest producer today. Bill. Yeah. It's been a minute. Yeah. We picked Dylan up by advertising on task grab it saying that we needed a guess, producer today. And here he is. That's not true. But it could be Chuck it could be that is true. The F is true, the reason it could be is because whether you know, this are not Charles, we are living, smack dab in the middle of what's called a gig economy, sure partially. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people are blaming the recession for it. And I think that's definitely part of it. Like there's a an abundance of people who didn't have jobs, starting in late two thousand eight early two thousand nine and it's kind of become the tradition to give people jobs, but not give them fulltime jobs, because there's a lot of things you can get around an employer as we'll talk about. So the gig economy has developed as part of the re- recession, but it's also developed because there's been a lot of tech. There's been a lot of slow pace government playing catch-up. There's there's and there's an abundance of workers. But it's nothing new the idea of, of. Kind of being paid as an independent contractor, working to fulfil, a particular task and just getting paid for the task which is kind of the basis of the gig economy. That's, that's actually pretty old from what I read prior to the industrial revolution. That's basically, how most people made a living, unless you're like a highly skilled crafts person, right? Like a, a brewer or a blacksmith or something like that Smith. A smith. He. Yeah. I mean things really changed at a certain point where it went from that to you get a job for a company and you work for that company for forty five years. And then you retire for that company. Right. And they take care of you in retirement, and while you're working for them. And that was a that was really how things went for for a long, long time for, like our grandparents generation, and even to a certain degree. Our parents generation. Yeah. And things really, really changed again. And now he kind of our back in this place where. You know, the gig economy can mean a lot of things that can be. I mean, technically any freelancer like when I used to work as of film production, freelance production, assistant light. That's technically part of the gig economy. Yeah. Because you were paid for the gig. You weren't like part of a company's. You weren't a fulltime employees with the company. Right. Yeah. But like when I hear gig economy, these days, and I think most people associate the, the modern two thousand nineteen usage of it, you kind of think of the tech industry, and you think of being a driver for a rideshare company, or working or selling stuff on FC, or working for task grab it or something like that. Yeah. I mean it's basically synonymous with, with tech platforms that connect people to consumers directly, that's kind of that's and gig economy. I think that's a really good point when you use the term gig economy. Yeah, that basically describes this. Modern incarnation of it, but gig work like you were just saying is it's been around for a very long time. And like remember temp services like manpower and chum for a little while. Okay. So that's that's gig work to. Yeah. Basically, if you're a dog Walker, and you go put a sign on a street poll or like a light pole at the corner, and you've got like the little tear offs for your phone numbers. Yes, three polls. That's basically working in the gig economy. Now, if you took that street poll with the little flier that you made and swapped it out for an app. That's, that's basically what we're living with right now. Yes. So here's a stat for you. There are all kinds of stats for the gig economy. But here's one from in two thousand five the gig economy was about ten percent of the US workforce, and just ten years later that had grown to about sixteen percent, and then just one year later in two thousand sixteen twenty four percent of Americans reported earning some kind of money from what they call the digital platform economy. And that's what we're talking about with, like rideshare or Airbnb and task rabbit, and stuff like that. Right. So that's a lot of people, and that's you know, we'll get into other sets later about whether or not these are people that are doing this little thing on the side. Like I worked my day job than go drive for Uber at night, or basically more. And more people are doing this as their fulltime job without benefits of being fulltime employees and. From the very sparse number of studies that are actually like conducted on this gig economy, in the ramifications that holds those are the people that people who work full-time in gig. Economy jobs, especially tech platform jobs. They, they tend to be the most vulnerable as far as workers go. Yes. So there's really a few well the there's three parts to this. There's the, the, the platform companies that are I mean, it's kind of funny, I guess it's genius in a way, but all they're doing is connecting people. Yeah. They're, they're replacing those old like temp agencies. Yeah. And there, but you don't have to go in and fill out stuff. You just log on create a profile and start. So that's a that's one appealing part of it, too. Yes. So what they do is they they're gonna draw that direct line between you between the consumer and the producer. So they everyone who's ever done a rideshare knows you just click on the little thing. And you. In pay through the website and they get whatever percentage of money, they get the ninety I think is it ninety percent. Now the technology platform gets money, and obviously, the, the gig worker gets money, right? And all they're doing is facilitating that connection. Right. But they're also one of the things that, that these apps can do that is totally new and revolutionary is that they can fulfil demand. They can connect supply and demand in real time. Yeah. Like, you know when you when you hail like a ride app or a halo ride through an app. I think is the way all the millennial street, Paul. Right. You, you. Have you have just entered like this world where you are saying, I need a ride right now? And they say, oh, well, we have a car near you right now. Let's in this person over like it's real time demand that's being fulfilled. Whereas if it were just that, that person who is a in a car and saying, like I could. Do some extra scratch. I wanna take you somewhere. What are they gonna do, like just drive down? The sidewalk can be like do you need a ride somewhere? I now know okay the you need right. Think about how much time that takes off of their plate. And that's really the role that the platform performs is connecting consumers with producers. Yeah. And as far as being a gig worker, there are couple of big categories. It's either sort of the if you don't necessarily have a college degree, you might be on the lower income side of a gig worker, which could be someone who delivers something to your home, or one of these services, where you can call a handyman to come over and do something like cut weeds in your front yard. Sure. Or it can be on the very very high side. I got a list of the, the highest paying gig rates and the very top one is something, you probably know a little about about from your into the world research, but deep learning jobs, really so the fifteen bucks an hour. Wow. Yeah. What is that, like consulting or something? I think is just any kind of a specialization. Gotcha. Where'd you know that's the kind of rate, you can command on an hourly basis. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. Blockchain was number two at eighty seven bucks. An hour robotics, seventy seven dollars. An hour number four was penetration testing jobs, which. What is that? What he headed trae tion testing jobs. Gimme gimme your best gas. I want a game like allowing yourself to be punctured by suffer shot at that, that bullet works. They needle sharp some money. Now it obviously sounds dirty, but it's all it is. It's like security to see if the penetrators I Gotcha. I got I got to make sense that, that would be a cool gig. Just get hired onto to just mess with somebody's cybersecurity. Fine weaknesses, right? Yeah. But then it goes all the way down to number ten, which was Instagram marketing at thirty one bucks an hour while while made up. Wow. It's sorta does. But this is I mean, those are the highest paying gigs. There was one film industry job in their final cut pro editor thirty seven dollars an hour. I could see that. So those are on the high side. But I mean what, what are these drivers making something like twelve dollars an hour on average, that's the national average after expenses, but before whatever taxes, they need to pay, and they do need to pay taxes. This is a hard lesson that some, some gig workers are finding is that like this isn't like text free money, just because the money's not so great doesn't mean it's not tax free. Like you still have to pay taxes on this. You still have to file like self employment tax. In some areas, some cities, some county, some states, you have to have a business license, and there's a lot of hidden costs that a lot of people don't know about. And because as I was saying, before, governments from the local level up to the federal level have been so slow to like a pivot, I guess, in, in Silicon Valley corporate speak to this new reality of, of tech platform apps that, that the, the gig economy functions on. There's a lot of people out there who, who just are unlicensed who aren't paying taxes in who, hopefully, we'll never find out the hard way that they did. But maybe find out the easy way like through us and then start in don't have to pay anything for back there. Stuff there are, you know, they're certain municipal municipalities in is that right municipalities menu nailed municipalities, the only way could have been buried Chuck. If you done it with a horribly stereotypical talian accent. To do it. No, no, no, no. Did you see that guy, right? In and said, I sound like a cartoon chef on TV. Oh, well, that's right. And I was like you didn't think I was trying to pull off a real exit. Right. You sued I'm going for I wanted you to know what it sounded like to hear chef boy or do you basically? So a lot of counties now are getting involved, though, because. Well, they say they want to help them transition into the gig economy and learn to put away money to pay taxes and stuff, whether really probably doing is making sure that they pay their taxes, right? And it's not just counties that are getting into it states are the federal government's kind of. But it's it looks like it's starting to become a patchwork of state regulations and we'll talk about that in a minute. But first, Chuck, why don't we take a break? Let's do it. I can't believe it. That Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look, here comes one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead NO, everybody. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco, projected increase in organic two-three revenue. Believe that Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. So we were saying that, that there are the, the governments are starting to get into this finally years on, basically. I mean, the gig economy itself is many, many years old by now and they're just now starting to pass legislation, but not all of it is, you know, like on the county level, putting up educational posters saying, right? Hey, you're a small business. You need a license to do you know to drive through or whatever here, it's not just that there's also a real frequently overlooked component of the tech platforms that connect consumers and producers, and that is that their profit margins are based largely on getting around labor laws, yet, have been established throughout the twentieth century and that are just outdated. They the, the tech platforms the apps that that connect people. Were built up around those laws, and they skirt the law, very plainly. I mean there've been court rulings in federal agency rulings to say, yes, they're right? Like these aren't employees. These are contractors and so they don't they don't get overtime. They don't get unpaid vague or they don't get paid vacation time. There's all this stuff insurance. Health insurance is a big one. So that's a huge chunk of revenue of outlay that the companies who like Uber, or test governor, whoever don't have to shell out that means that's prophet more prophets for them. And it's also something that their competitors like cab companies say have to pay. So it's a one way that the cab companies lose against the ride hailing apps, but the people who are out there still need health insurance, they still need health care, they still need food, and so the, the, the companies that make these platforms tend to kind of off load the responsibility. That used to be on the company's part onto local governments. And so what local governments are trying to figure out, say, like, well with this influx of gig economy workers saying, like I need Medicare or I need food stamps or something like that. How can we deal with this and they've been some, a couple of interesting proposals at least for how to get the companies to pay for benefits that companies traditionally have paid for? But in this new gig economy. Yeah, I thought this one was really interesting portable benefits. So, you know, if you've ever changed jobs or if you change jobs, a lot like on a full-time basis, you know, that it can be big pain to your benefits are always changing, sometimes better, sometimes worse, but they're bound to be different, and that's just a hassle. Oh, yeah. The idea of portable benefits basically that you own as an employee. So when you go to a new job as a gig worker, you take your employees. Your benefits with you. And basically just plug it into their system and say, well, you are now going to contribute, your, your employer portion to my portable benefits. Yeah. It's kind of like the difference between a 4._0._1._K in an IRA. Right. The IRA's yours. No matter where you go. The 4._0._1._K is between you and your employer. Imagine if all you ever had was an IRA, but your employer paid into that. But it was for health benefits rather than retirement. So it was always yours. But just depending on who you worked for part of what you got paid was an additional premium that was a contribution to your benefits, whether it was a retirement package or dental or vision, or health, or whatever. And it was always used associated with you the worker, but everybody from each task paid into that. It's a great idea. And apparently it works to. Yeah. And I'm not super sure this the other idea ideas that of a dependent contractor, I'm rather than an. Independent contractor. And that's basically, if you receive the majority of your income from one company, then they need to do things like pay your health or contribute towards your health insurance. Right. What I don't get is what, what's the difference between that? And being a fulltime employees. There's nothing. It's basically just calling Uber out on its Bs and saying, these are your employees to without having to say, hey, federal government, you guys need to revise the independent contractor laws, because this is different. These are states or local governments saying, you want to do business here. These people are dependent contractors in you have to provide them with benefits. Sorry. That's just the way it goes. And if you get a big enough county, or city or state, and the, the after the platform wants to do business there, they will do this, and it stinks and you have to have different people who are experts in the different states are doing business in. But eventually, if enough different states have slightly different laws that are all to the same effect companies like Uber gonna go to. The federal government be like can you please pass a law that says that we have to provide benefits for these people and maybe they're not the greatest benefits? We don't want to give away the farm, but it will be more cost effective for us to just have one standard to adhere to nationwide than it will be to have fifty different laws that we have to adhere to nationwide. And how do they do that through lobbyists paying tons of money? It's true. But in this case, it would benefit people, but it's, it's a it's a ground up push from the local and state governments basically agitating for the federal government to take action. Yeah. I mean, Uber certainly had its share of missteps along the way if you and even if you cast those aside and not to pick on them. Let's just talk about any at based gig economy or gig job, or whatever I guess, gig is all you need to say, really mouthful in. You can you can't help but just picture a back. Room board room in Silicon Valley with these dudes, just saying like you know, here's what we'll do. We'll develop this app that connects people, and we take a cut and we're going to have tens of thousands of drivers all over the country, working for us. And then the other person goes, yeah, but man that do you know how expensive that is with payroll and this and that and an insurance everything? Oh, no, no, no. The best part is they're not employee's, right? The very first in the very first meeting that was the big like, oh, I get it. And they laughed. Oh, I'm sure they the room went breathless. Yeah. Like, that's it was literally world changing. I mean like that's the state of affairs, Dowling yet had to start somewhere. I'm not sure where it started. But it started somewhere. But like you said earlier that is the I mean they've proven it with with financials. We're not just saying this stuff. They that is the reason they are profitable is because they're not having to pay this dough. Right. Unfortunately, it's also the reason why people who rely on gig work fulltime to make ends meet in who are not who don't have any kind of higher education and are not skilled workers. That's why they are increasingly turning to tax payer funded public assistance for things like healthcare, in food, in basically, making ends meet because from like I said the few studies that there are out there what they're finding. Is that there's a segment of people who work in the gig economy, who are, who, who cannot make ends meet with gig work, and it's not just to pick on the platforms, and the apps that make up the backbone of the gig economy because it says a lot that, if there are people in the vast majority of people who do gig work. I think you said earlier, they, they don't work fulltime. They do it to supplement income, but they're not supplementing income. I saw somewhere. Somebody said they're not supplementing income to, to save up to go to Hawaii. They're doing it to buy medicine in food, right, utility bills. So then actually says a lot about the state of work in general, not just gig work. Because if you have a regular job, whether it's part time, or full time, and you have to have a side hustle, which, by the way, is a term that's been around since nineteen fifty. I saw side-hustle. Yeah. You there's, there's a problem with work in general. You know what I'm saying where you cannot make ends meet just with your regular full-time job or even a couple part time jobs. So you have to do gig. Work too, but the people who just do gig work. Those are the people who are the most vulnerable, and they usually if you're a driver, you make about eleven ninety an hour. That's the national average yet, here's some stats for you. The federal reserved at a report and from two thousand eighteen fifty eight percent of full-time gig workers said they would have a hard time coming up with a four hundred dollar the -mergency Bill, Mike, if they had to go the hospital and pay four hundred bucks they couldn't cover that nearly sixty percent of them. Yeah. And that's compared to thirty eight percent of people who in just the regular economy, not the gig economy. Right. And they did surveys, that said five percent of people said that gig working this out of eleven thousand people who did gig work at all five percent of them said it was their main source of income, which is a pretty small amount. But that's that's growing, I think between two thousand sixteen in two thousand twenty one they're projecting it to grow for Mike. Three point two million people to close to ten million people like working gig economy, jobs. I saw somewhere sixty million fast company predicted something like sixty million Americans are going to be working in the gig economy by twenty twenty which was flour in a way, the highest number I saw him and the Scottie. But yeah, I've got another step for you. I saw I think, in barons believe it's Barron's. The gig economy, gig work accounted for ninety four percent of net employment growth between two thousand five in two thousand fifteen so that means that all the new jobs that came in, in all the old jobs that went away. Ninety four percent of the jobs that, that accounted for the growth of work in America were gig work. That's astounding ninety four percent. Yeah. I mean, I feel like every time I go to Publix. Twenty five percent of the people in there are shopping for other people. Yeah. Yeah for sure you can tell by their t-shirts. Yeah. They wear the shirts and Emily's done that a couple of times, you know, bit too busy working parents. She's I can't remember the service that we use. But I don't like it 'cause I like to shop for my own stuff. I do too. I don't want people picking out my food. Yeah. When they bring the bag you hold up an orange. Like did you touch? This is not a net. It's just you know you wanna pick out your own stuff. Yeah. Inside you. I'm just seizing, I like running errands myself to, and it's, it's it feels like it's never right to they'll be like, oh, well couldn't find the thing. So I got this is that's not what I asked for. I saw quest love like. Hadn't had peanut butter Cap'n crunch, and like forever, and he posted something I think, on Instagram where he ordered some from lake task rabbit, or something. And the guy brought him regular captain crunch in a jar of peanut butter. He's three way down the hall of his hotel, which I thought was a little much. But it was a pretty good. This might be pretty good though. I, I did I had a very something very heavy to move in my home recently that was just sitting there because I couldn't get a friend over and I had never heard of task grab it and someone said he should try task grab it. And I did look up and I was like you, could you get a young strong man to come over and lift something heavy for you. And like an hour's notice I was like, man, I feel like I should probably just get this done, and I got distracted and didn't do it in was able to get friends over. But I, I didn't even know it existed in that you could get that kind of work. Yeah. I think task you can do just about anything. There's, there's something in the UK. There's a site called fiver, if I've e- are I think I've heard of that, I think, and like every like all tasks on it are for five bucks or whatever you want the person to do. They'll either do it or won't do it. But the price you pay five bucks. So it's like small, quick, easy, tasks, and supposedly wonder what's worth five dollars like you'll get my mail. Sure. See if see if this needle sharp I to do a punctured test. Back to that one again, I guess we should mention the strike that happened earlier this month. We're, we're recording this in may two thousand nineteen just very recently, though, is there were thousands of Uber and lift drivers. He went on strike not just in may but can have all year long. This is sort of been brewing. I think and it it sit Uber. Stock prices down for one dude by two-thirds started out with a hundred and twenty billion dollar valuation, and ended up at the end of the day, I think, at forty billion yet, and that's where this whole idea of, like, is it exploitation? Like I mean, the courts have roundly kind of said like now, you can't unionize you're not employee's. Right. And these are in some of the most liberal courts in the land. Right. You're independent contractor. So you don't get overtime. You can't you can't unionize there's all sorts of stuff that you just can't do because you're an independent con. Contractor and that's that's small e starting to change yet. But the, the whole idea of this strike, was is there, basically saying, you have intentionally mis classified us as non employees, and I'm sure they're like, yeah. That, that's exactly right, right. Like was it? I think that's like in our terms of use that we intentionally miss classify. Well, they probably say we have intentionally classified you as what you are. Right. Which is a non employee. Right. But the drivers are saying, they're mis classified obviously, right? So there's a big lawsuit. A few hundred thousand Uber drivers sued Uber, and they very recently settled, I think in March with, like thirteen thousand six hundred of them. Yeah. And they were given twenty million dollars to split between them, which sounds like a lot, but it's actually like less than fifteen hundred a driver for basically saying, we have been underpaying you the other like three hundred something thousand drivers didn't get squat. Because they all signed a an arbitration clause in their agreement which you should never sign. If you have any say in it whatsoever, because it basically says, I can't sue and anytime I have a problem with you. We will go to a mediator, who you pay to decide whether my claim has any value or not. So it's a terrible terrible thing to sign but on top of that. If you are a full-time gig economy worker, you basically, don't have a choice in the company, you're working with as an independent contractor knows that. So there's almost certainly going to be an arbitration clause. But that's a really good example of what happens when you signed an arbitration clause you lose out on the settlement because you said that you are waiving your right to a trial right in side from stuff like health insurance. The, the drivers are angry because Uber in major cities has been cutting driver pay rates because they're trying to get their bottom line down and say, hey, look, everyone look at. Our bottom line. Now attractive is this? Yep. So, like I was saying this is slowly starting to change thanks to regulation, and we'll talk a little more about that after this break. Everyone everyone attention. It is clear that no one has time to go to the post office. Yeah, you're busy, who's got time for traffic for parking for lugging all your mail and packages. We love the post office. It's a real hassle though. Okay. Yeah. That's why you need stamps dot com and we love stamps dot com. Everyone 'cause they got behind stuff. 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I don't know if we talked about it, yet the L the study with eleven thousand people was conducted by the fed. Yeah. There's another study conducted by I think UC Berkeley in the new school, and they basically found like most, I think fifty percent of drivers driving for ride hailing apps in New York City, not just duper but all of them, especially the big four via Juno lift in over fifty eight percent of them work fulltime, so they're basically independent cab drivers who are not licensed cabbies fifty percent. I believe have families that they're supporting with that. They're working for about eleven ninety an hour and forty percent of them. Qualified for Medicaid in eighteen percent. Qualified. For food stamps. Yeah. And this was shocking enough to the city government of New York that they passed the country's first maybe the world's first as far as I know minimum wage law for ride hailing app independent contractors, and it's actually more than the minimum wage for New York in general. Yeah. I mean, basically the New York came out and said, first of all Uber. They could fix this. If they just had a very small fare adjustment, that passengers would probably not care about, then they could pay them fairly and increase driver pay. But since they're not going to do that. We're going to step in, and I believe it was was this past January. They were required to start paying drivers after expenses about seventeen dollars and twenty two cents an hour, which is about five dollars more per hour than the previous almost twelve dollars per hour average. Right. So this is a big deal. And I mean that's, that's. That was a huge win for the independent contractors who work for ride hailing apps, at least in New York. But also, it said a precedent across the country, basically, saying, like, yes, if you are big enough town, you have the clout to, to look out for these, these workers who are being exploited by the tech platforms that they're partnering with as independent contractors yet. And actually today as, as we record this the state assembly in California pass legislation that required employers to recognize gig workers as employee's with what they call the Dynamex. It's a the California state supreme court said in may twenty eighteen this three part test called the Dynamex would be used to determine if contractors qualifies employee's. So to be exempt from labor requirements and employer would be required to prove that one its workers have complete control. Overhaul services are provided. So, in other words, Uber can't give a minimum amount of hours that you have to work or right? So you have to drive every Tuesday or whatever I'm not sure, you know, if they even do that. But no, I don't think they do. And I think that's part of their argument. Why they're not employers because the the worker sets their own schedule. All right. And number two the services provided or not related to the employers main business. So that's a big one. Yeah. Because that rules out all the I mean, all the right chairs right, unless they say that their main businesses app development. Right. Yeah. That is, I'm not sure if that's a loophole yet. I don't know about that one either. And then number three, the worker is engaged in an independently established role. So this is a big deal because other states, you know, a lot of states to California because this is where a lot of the gig economy, the modern gig economy was born, and this is sort of the first, the first big California legislation that's, that's gone down the road. Yeah. Now, that is a big deal because it's like, that's their home court making laws against them. Yeah. So that definitely kind of indicates like a turning tide. And again, it's not just like governments looking out for their citizens, although I'm sure that's part of it, but it's also government's looking out for their own bottom line because those citizens are having to come and say, I need healthcare again, really important frequently overlooked point. Yeah. But despite all that, and I mean, you said it's, it's easy to pick on Uber. They're kind of a model for this kind of thing, but they're certainly not the only ones but it also when you just focus on that. You miss out on the other. Aspect of the gig economy, which is that it's a double edged sword, for some people freelancing a gig economy has allowed them to basically pursue their dreams and become quite successful at doing what they wanna do on their own terms on their own schedule. And there are -posedly a pretty decent amount of people out there who are doing it that way. But usually they're highly educated. And they work in a Crafter in artistic or kind of elite field specialized field yet, like a I or robotics. Sure. Or if you are a consultant of some sort in, especially very specialized consultant, you don't have to spend the time and money going out and drumming up business for yourself and you can go to platforms like up work and find people who are looking for the stuff that you do way easier than before. And that's. A huge benefit of this gig economy. It's become way easier to find work, whether it's driving for writing app or being a marketing consultant, you know, like it's up from from top to bottom. It's easier to find work than ever yet. But it's also like the people are in these situations, a lot of times, because they were unable to find the job that they wanted on a full-time basis. Right. Is a very tough nut to crack. Because even in ride shares when you get in a car nine times out of ten my driver is very happy doing what they do. And they always say, pretty roundly like oh, it's great man. It set my own hours. And I mean it sounds like I don't know if they're encouraged to say these things, right. Yeah. But it sounds like an ad for when you sign up, you know, because they can appear it exactly the things that, that they try and entice you with which is you're your own boss, and you send your own hours, you only drive when you want to. But. That is the deal. And no one's forcing them to go do this, and they, you are putting money in their pocket. I mean, I always tip super big. That's, that's I think the only thing within your control or not use these apps at all. If you think they're evil right? Which is another another way to look at it for sure. But then all of a sudden, you know, there's a lot of people that depend on that money that are being hurt. It's tough right now. It is for sure like that is another thing about the gig economy to is, you can say, like, well, I mean, you're having trouble making ends meet I get to like hire you in, like have an impact on you being able to make ends meet. Right. Or I it's just it's such a first world thing to be like, L, forget, all of you. All platforms, and apps because they exploit workers, while they also help people make money where they otherwise couldn't. So there's it is very much a double edged sword. It is definitely exploitation. There's also certainly an uplift of the middle class that wasn't happening before. There's also been an uptick in New York, taxi driver suicides. Really? Yes. It is long been blamed on rideshare because it's such a dent in taxicab incomes driver, incomes. So I looked into that a little bit and then found out this whole other world about, you know, the whole deal with the taxi medallions. Yeah. Like people by the medallions as like an investment, and then they like lease out the, the licensed to cabbies, right? Yeah. We need to do a full show on that because it is way more involved than I thought and I was gonna talk about it some here, but it deserves its own episode. All right. They're saying that, that is a big part of the problem for the suicide rate as well. It sort of. Both of those things contributing. Right. So taxi medallions look for that one. Okay. It's that's a deal. There's a to other things in New York. I wanna point actually, to other platforms to other things you want to point out the departure date buildings. Very nice. Right. That's one. In take your right on the subway. Right. There's a cleaning service called my clean that's like a an app where they, they started out with as like the normal, Silicon Valley model where they just have independent contractors. And they actually converted. In started hiring their contractors on employee's, and there's another one called Hello Alfred which is kind of like a personal assistant A-Team of personal assistance that you can basically involve in your life as much or as little as you want. What's it com? Hello, alfred. It's just a New York, and it's only in certain buildings in New York from what I can tell, but they'll do everything from, like keep your plant alive. To walk your dog to do your grocery shopping to pick out clothes for you to have your shoes repaired, whatever, just basically keeping you life in order for you get. But because they tried to end -ticipant the things their customers need. They realized that they need employees. They need. People they, they can't turn over and frequent training. And introducing their customers new people. They need like people who are going to be there for long haul. So they started out having employees, too, and that really kind of underscores a big reason why having a fulltime employment is preferable gig employment. I if especially if you're a company because there's less turnover, there's less training training involved, and usually the worker is a lot happier when they have a steady full-time gig. Right. And then that's their only job and they get two weeks, paid vacation every year. Right. Or more if you're in Europe, and that has a benefit for the company because that's the person who's communicating with the public or making the stuff and they don't hate their life or their job. Right. They're, they're, they're just producing better too. If you wanna look like the economic terms. Yeah, that's interesting. I thought so too. Hello, alfred. They I think he just became their spokesman. You got anything else? No, I don't go there. I do have one more thing. Chuck, you ready. This whole like peer to peer platform thing reminded me we have Akiva team. And I went and checked on it until that just the other day. It's so you saw the big number were passing on total donations. I think you should take this one. Well, you had the most recent number I it was close to six mil the other day. Yep. Still is really, really creeping up on six million dollars. Total loans loaned-out do that. It had been a while too. That's so funny. We both had that same thought, man, that that's really something else. Yep. So congratulations to the stuff, you should know kiva team. There are people joining, I saw people joined yesterday. So there's it's wide open if you want to make some more about it to search kiva K I, V A and stuff, you should know and not only will our kiva page come up. But some blog posts, we wrote about it in the past, come up to which is hilarious in quaint. All right. Well, since I said, quaint, Chuck, it's time, I think, for listener mail. All right. 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