35 Burst results for "Big Pharma"

Sen. Ron Johnson: Doctors Are Vilified for Recommending Off-Label Drugs to Address COVID

The Dan Bongino Show

01:28 min | Last week

Sen. Ron Johnson: Doctors Are Vilified for Recommending Off-Label Drugs to Address COVID

"It's just very sad But no there's been a complete denial of reality Can you take a look at our response to COVID and call the success 850,000 Americans dead either with or from COVID 5.5 million people globally At some point in time you got to sit back and go you know the COVID guides they have an exactly end of this pandemic Maybe we should have sought a second opinion And you're right by the way again I'm agnostic I remember deciding I mean there's a cornucopia full of drugs that can be used We have advanced medicine by off label use Doctors have every right To utilize their off labor prescription rates but they're being denied that right by the CDC the FDA the COVID guide And again I personally believe hundreds of thousands of people needlessly died because doctors weren't practicing medicine because this early treatment was being sabotaged by the COVID guys It is a scandal It is a travesty And you're right I mean I never came I came here because we're Morgan and our kids future But I did end up in a role of investigating the corruption in all these agencies and now my eyes are opened up in terms of the capture of these federal health agencies by big pharma The corruption of science the corruption of our medical establishment to medical journals It needs to be corrected for the future

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Sen. Ron Johnson Previews New Panel Called 'COVID-19: A Second Opinion'

The Dan Bongino Show

01:37 min | Last week

Sen. Ron Johnson Previews New Panel Called 'COVID-19: A Second Opinion'

"You have been an open advocate for honesty when it comes to the whole Hunter Biden spygate debacle And one of the things I think now where your value added is really tremendous is on the COVID misinformation from the left You're hosting this COVID panel called the second opinion And you're going to have some medical experts These are people with documented bona fides out there And what are you going to talk about in this panel And how are we going to address this litany of misinformation COVID misinformation coming from the left By having an open discussion I mean that's where I found most appalling I may advocating for early treatment I've been completely agnostic in terms of what drugs But literally since March of 2020 why do not healthcare agencies robustly explore and research early treatment using cheap generic repurposed drugs widely available I mean there's a cornucopia of them It's not just one it's a multi drug therapy But they didn't They're focused on the vaccines And so anybody who had a different opinion And I'm 66 years old as long as I remember It's always been a really good thing if you had a serious medical condition Go seek a second maybe you can get a third opinion It's not been allowed I don't have a good explanation for it I have my suspicions Obviously all the drugs that are being recommended approved for use by the federal agencies are all the expense of ones by big pharma They've not really just ignored They sabotage They've trashed cheap generic drugs I can't explain it but what I do know is to date Two years in the pandemic NIH guidelines continues to be do nothing

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What John Zmirak Learned From His Brush With COVID

The Eric Metaxas Show

02:03 min | Last week

What John Zmirak Learned From His Brush With COVID

"It's John smirk as my guest on the program. We decided to have you on John, how are you? I understand that you've had some kind of COVID strain and it obviously killed you. It didn't put me on a commission. I tested positive for COVID a week ago today. And I slept for 22 hours a day for 6 consecutive days. I was near death. 24 hours a day could be considered death, but it's only 22. So between curling up with the beagles and listening to lots and lots of history podcasts to help sort of drifting in and out of sleep. I feel sort of kind of okay, of course I wasn't able to take the COVID medicine that I wanted Ivermectin on hydroxychloroquine because even though at a doctor willing to prescribe them, there are no pharmacies willing willing to fill those prescriptions. Okay, what do we make of this? What do you make of this? At the medical establishment has been completely conquered by big pharma and big pharma has conquered conquered the government or worked with the government to conquer us. So that they can force us to take experimental gene therapy rather than safe, well tested, well, well represented drugs like Kubernetes and I have dropped the cork when that have been used safely for decades for in animals and human beings. Instead, we all all have to take this weird immunogen therapy based on spike proteins that might infect your bodily organs indefinitely. We don't know it's never been tested for safety. It never will be tested for safety. It's being tested on the whole global population.

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COVID Is an Excuse for Government to Control People

The Eric Metaxas Show

00:55 sec | Last month

COVID Is an Excuse for Government to Control People

"Has largely become an excuse to control people. I mean, wherever you go, whether you're wearing a mask or you're supposed to be vaccinated, and there's all of this stuff is a level of government control cultural control that none of us could have dreamt of. And putting aside the origins of COVID, putting aside whether people actually died. The point is that people in power have used this opportunity as an opportunity to make more to get more power. And in many cases, to make tons of money. I mean, the big pharma, they are minting money over this. And so because they are whorish, they don't really care about the truth or the people who are taking the vaccines. They're just thinking, we can make a ton of money and get away with it. It's legal. And they've taken advantage of that. But

Dan and Lisa Boothe Talk Draconian COVID Measures and Government Power Plays

The Dan Bongino Show

02:30 min | Last month

Dan and Lisa Boothe Talk Draconian COVID Measures and Government Power Plays

"Lisa this is one of the reasons to what you just said that I get annoyed People like you and I from the beginning use logic and reason And we were saying things like hey maybe we should just sit back and let kind of the data materialize before we jump to draconian solutions like lockdowns and shutting kids out of school and causing a mental health crisis preventing cancer screenings like maybe it's a good idea to kind of wait and as you just accurately stated most of the stuff sensible people knew early on Now the media is reporting it I'm going to get to this later in my show after we've done with the interview New York Times is reporting I think it was yesterday Hey people who are obese are at a high risk for coronavirus We're like no hit with an S in front of it Sherlock we knew this like a year ago but you were too busy pushing mask mandates and vaccine mandates and falling in love with your power that you know you ignore that And there's the point you know the point Lee says that people who are normal normally young and healthy did not should not have been subjected to all this stuff We could have said something to people who are obese who had comorbidities and stopped the systemic lockdowns Because it's never been about health You know and you know that Dan it's always been about control How can we get it controlled Let's use fear as a tool to control the population to reshape the government in ways that are unimaginable in our lifetimes that are now coming to fruition Let's use COVID to take us away from a constitutional republic take us towards an authoritarian regime and that's what's happened throughout all of this because there are plenty of people like me who are young and healthy who don't need to get the back seat I am not statistically at risk of COVID and most vaccines take 5 to ten years to get approval of safety data before they're approved but certainly did not happen with this right So it is fair to have concerns about the safety implications You have other countries that are putting parameters and limitations on Moderna which Pfizer is also mRNA because of heart concerns right So you've got doctors and doctors warning about concerns over heart condition but nobody cares because again everyone's bought and paid for by big pharma They've spent millions of dollars this year alone on lobbyists They're going to make tens of billions of dollars from this You've got Fauci who doesn't want to recognize the fact that he failed on all of this One because it'd be bad for his business It's clear And then secondly because the NIH NIH of course had to do with some of the

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Alex Berenson: 'Science Is a Tool, Not an Arbiter' When Talking About Coronavirus

The Dan Bongino Show

01:59 min | 2 months ago

Alex Berenson: 'Science Is a Tool, Not an Arbiter' When Talking About Coronavirus

"Like this the endless fear campaigns are always aligned with two narratives uri and only two narratives Alex If you don't promote mask mandates and vaccine mandates nothing else is to be spoken of and they both involve the aggregation of power with people who benefit from it You mentioned Ivermectin you're a horse paster You mentioned antibodies all you're in it with big pharma You don't know where you Ronda said this to anybody These are all these are testable hypotheses Does this stuff work or not I would agree that and I'd say something else which is science is science is very very important obviously But science ultimately is a mechanism Science doesn't have the answer Science gave us the atomic bomb But it was a political and military decision to drop that bomb Science can tell us masks work or don't work or they work somewhere well It is a political decision to tell everybody to wear a mask It is a medical decision to say you're young you're at low risk from COVID I don't think you should be vaccinated even if there might be some slight benefit to you Because I'm not sure the benefit and I'm not sure the long term risk On the other hand if you're older it looks to us like the risk is a lot higher from COVID And so we think the vaccine is a better back from you Those science is a tool ultimately It is not the arbiter We are the arbiters through our political process and doctors doctors seem to have forgotten the medical process The first rule of medicine do no harm Think about risk first and they got to that because they did so much harm for so long I'm not talking about in our lifetimes I'm talking about in the Middle Ages in the dark ages doctors killed people They bled people to death They cut holes in people's heads It took medicine a really long time to understand that you could do tremendous harm in the sake of doing good And we seem to have forgotten that in the last few

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Mike and Caller Angelo Discuss Why COVID Has Been so Politicized by the Left

Mike Gallagher Podcast

00:58 sec | 3 months ago

Mike and Caller Angelo Discuss Why COVID Has Been so Politicized by the Left

"G let's see if you can give me a theory as to why the left has politicized COVID so much Angelo is in Queens, New York. Hey Angelo, how are you happy Friday? Hey, how you doing, happy Friday? Well, I guess it's just all political, maybe they want to just keep people out of the voting boots. They want mail in voting because I have written I'm a victim and Merck is making a pill. The only difference is it's going to cost $750 instead of $4. That's what that has a lot to do with it. Ivermectin is very inexpensive, and that has a huge, huge aspect of this, I think. It's a cheap inexpensive drug, big pharma doesn't profit from it like they do. I mean, do you know how much money Pfizer and BioNTech and all of what the Moderna vaccine and Johnson & Johnson? You know how much money they're making? Holy

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Ever Notice How the Only Government-Approved COVID Treatments Come From Big Pharma?

The Dan Bongino Show

00:47 sec | 3 months ago

Ever Notice How the Only Government-Approved COVID Treatments Come From Big Pharma?

"Have you noticed this pattern here That whenever a potential not solution but treatment for coronavirus that may help surfaces and that treatment is not a big pharma treatment who pays off a lot of our politicians in D.C. I can't look like some government savior injected themselves to fix it If it's just a simple solution like you know maybe vitamin D a little bit of sun zinc quercetin they're not suggesting these are gonna secure you overnight but these may be things that can help Ivermectin hydroxychloroquine and now aspirin have you ever noticed ever since we see these solutions emerge potential solutions emerge That if they don't involve big pharma all of a sudden the government seems to lose its mind in the media go on attack right away They can't control

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COVID-19 Booster Shots Are a 'Money-Making Operation' for Big Pharma

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:12 min | 4 months ago

COVID-19 Booster Shots Are a 'Money-Making Operation' for Big Pharma

"Want one person. In the media to please explain why poor countries that generously prescribe anti-malarials or doing so much better than countries that massively inoculate and vaccinate their citizens will now the pfizer's ceo says. Oh yeah we can get back to normal as long as you keep taking your shots. Meanwhile billions of dollars are set to be made off of the booster shots so we keep on minting new billionaires off vaccines that don't even work by the way the best argument you can make for the vaccine is that it's a treatment not a vaccine that it might lower your likelihood of hospitalization that is the best case argument and even that argument is questionable. If you've already had natural immunity that argument is questionable billions more in prophets. I'm reading from breitbart. Dot com from the associated press are at stake for some vaccine makers as the us marches towards dispensing cova nineteen boosters to show up shore up american treatments. This is all about making money.

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"big pharma" Discussed on The Daily Zeitgeist

The Daily Zeitgeist

07:51 min | 4 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on The Daily Zeitgeist

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Join the heard and find them at a store near you through their locator at neon zebra dot com. That's neon zebra dot com and where back and so. This is a bit of good news epic. Which is the to web hosts. Their ceo has come up a couple of times in recent weeks because his name not doesn't the reason he's come up but You might remember him because name is rob monster No yeah oh yeah and they just given name who knows. I mean you know. He looks so lame. You're like honestly you might just had a cool name and just been like look like this guy. I don't know yeah. He's inspired by rob zombie but like couldn't be doing specific tighter so he changed. I change it. I'm looking at wikipedia. Changed it from rob frankenstein and people are like. Oh so you're a doctor. And he was like oh meant a monster. Sick neck bolt tattoos road but anyways for a long time The far-right has kind of been able to get away with hiding out on epic web hosted websites and anonymous did their thing and basically leaked about ten years worth of data and it is everything. It's fuck i mean like you know. It's the kind of information that far-right researchers journalists activists have always been like who is actually running these sites. who who's who are these domains registered to. Because that was the whole deal with epic rob mas like free speech baby. You know. that's why he was hosting shit like gab. And parlor fuck in the gop. Texas website all kinds of shit like that and it was always under this thing. Like your information is sacred. It's book prioritize. it's bulletproof. No one can breach this and then cut to ten years of fucking everything like to the point where like every analyst is looked at it said i've never seen anything like a more breathtaking breach of like data ever because it's in the way that epic like just had an utter lack of security with things made it very easy. Where even if he were like. I need my nazi site i need to be. Anonymous is as like the the for being the owner of this domain. They're like yeah. Yeah you can use our anonymous service. Bob blah blah. They just turned into a number that was attached to another number that like they could easily cross reference. And they're like okay so it's this guy and so suddenly a lot of people like i mean this. This breach just happened so slowly things are coming out but anonymous says quote. The data is all that's needed to trace actual ownership and management of the fascist side of the internet that eluded researchers activists and well just about everybody so this has been an interesting thing because epic at first guy. Rob monster tidal. He's like oh. I don't know what's going on. There's nothing happening and really hasn't acknowledged the extent of this breach and then there are a lot of other people on the far right internet. Who are like kind of in this sort of mixed reaction of like confusion. Denial and fear. So it's going to be a very interesting next couple of weeks as you know. I think there's going to be a lot of unmasking. I think of of some of these websites. A bunch of cops politician. Oh my goodness. I kind of when these these quote unquote free speech guys. How come all of the the websites they host are always nazi websites and like fascist websites. How come it's never pro palestinian websites or anything on the left that somehow google pushes down and their and their searches. How come it's oh. It seems like i don't know about it just seems to me. Maybe i'm crazy that when people talk about quote unquote free speech. They really just mean fascism and nuts in ray recently that is definitely been the trend. I four sure there has been a history of the left being police and probably still up till recently. It's just the ones that get covered. And that get lumped in with these websites tend to be. Yeah what's premesis. The word the rob monster did like a online like ama over video. Like i don't know why. And it's the fucking weirdest thing i've ever seen where like journalists are like being like. Hey you host this like website of this guy who docs to me like you i. This violates your terms of service like take down the site now. And he's like yeah. You know like i'm really transparent. And he's on his computer at clicking away and he's like it's down i just took it down and certain point. You're like lake lake slapping.

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Why Is the Media Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug?

Dennis Prager Podcasts

02:16 min | 4 months ago

Why Is the Media Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug?

"Ivermectin works. You're being lied to by corrupt medical profession. it is. I never thought i'd say this is as corrupt as the teachers unions. There was no difference between the american medical association the cbc the nih and the teachers unions. They're left wing activist groups. They have no commitment to what they claim to have. Commitment to there are some wonderful teachers. There are some wonderful people at all. Cdc and nih. it's corrupt it's been corrupted by big pharma. They want you to take the vaccine. Because if you can get healthy by taking a cheap pill like ivermectin or hydroxy chloroquine and zinc. They don't want you to do so. They wanna make billions by pushing and shoving the vaccine down americans throats. That's the reason for the war against ivermectin in india. They used it and listen to the story. Okay just listen to it that this is a A doctor writing from the desert review dot com republished in zero hedge. There's a black on any conversation. About how ivermectin beat cova nineteen in india when i discussed the dire straits that india found itself in in earlier this year with four hundred fourteen thousand cases per day and over four thousand deaths per day and how that evaporated within five weeks of the addition of ivermectin often asked. Why is there no mention of that in the news. Yes exactly ask yourself why. India success against the delta variant with ivermectin is such a closely guarded secret by the nih and cdc. Second ask yourself. Why no major media outlets reported this fact but instead try to confuse you with false information by saying the deaths in india are ten times greater than official reports perhaps. Npr's trying so hard because npr's essentially government mouthpiece the us government is all in with vaccines with enthusiasm. A seventeenth century catholic. Church all in with a jia centric metal of the geo centric model of the universe disputing galileo

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Interview With Francesco Gadaleta, Host of Data Science at Home Podcast

AI Today Podcast: Artificial Intelligence Insights, Experts, and Opinion

01:56 min | 6 months ago

Interview With Francesco Gadaleta, Host of Data Science at Home Podcast

"We'd like to start by having you introduce yourself to our listeners. And tell them a little bit about your background your podcast and why you started your podcast absolutely still find it very weird to be a guest today usually i'm just to be the host but the spine a to manage that So well yeah my. My background is in computer engineering specialization. In artificial intelligence botox I appreciate computer. Science and Essentially started my career as a as a researcher. I was working on problems in bioinformatics. Were the woods backing. Today's and still The real big big data. Right then. I moved to the corporate world. Am i joined A big pharma and I stated for a couple of years leading the deploying unit and while two years i would say that they were quite enough to realize that i had to build my own a company and and become technology provider for For clients out there. So that's exactly what. I did. In terms of the podcast. Podcast kind of has a story on its own. I started at some time like three years ago or more. Probably the first few months. I i should not count them because it was really an experiment. And the the idea of the podcast was to kind of force myself to summarize papers academic papers and Relatively complex concept in machine learning and make it accessible to technical nontechnical people who would have definitely a skips the academic paper sometimes. That's not really very accessible material.

Is the Federal Employee Vaccine Requirement Preplanned by Big Tech and Big Pharma?

The Eric Metaxas Show

02:19 min | 6 months ago

Is the Federal Employee Vaccine Requirement Preplanned by Big Tech and Big Pharma?

"Today. I guess it was today or yesterday. I heard that the biden administration. Which i don't take seriously as an administration but we'll just put that in brackets that they are requiring federal employees to get the vaccine. What what am i to make of this. I mean you're you're right to ask and it's all kind of coming together in a very I don't have evidence that it's all coming together in a plea preplanned way except knowing what campaigns at the very highest levels look like it's clearly a pincher movement right the one way or another. What my read is is a former political consultant. Is that the people who helped elect the biden administration. Whether it's big tech big pharma. Some combination of those bill gates You know had a deliverable and the deliverable was clearly seventy percent vaccinated and vaccine passports. And why is this attractive. You and i have talked about it. I warned everyone about it. In april i tried as hard as i can. And i have to say our warnings. Our conversations have borne fruit. Because i'm so sorry that youtube declaring you're trying to based on what you and i spoke about and i hope this conversation survives but when tech companies like microsoft which is one of the companies that has the contract have vaccine passports. They will be more powerful than any administration really. They'll be more powerful than nation states. So that's what they want and they weren't getting it right. There's been resistance Peop- i'm not anti vaccine but people have reasonably been thinking well unhealthy. I'm under forty year. I'm under fifty You know these are untested I'm not at a high risk category. I'm i've not willing. I'm going to wait in in wait till actual formal fda approval. Whatever people can make whatever decisions they want for themselves. The bottom line is the cdc has corrected its overstatements of the past and is acknowledging that almost half of americans have chosen this point not to be

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"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

03:12 min | 6 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

"Has been increasingly flexible in the way that it accepts surrogate measures as the basis for approving new drugs and so these days about two-thirds lee a little bit less than two thirds of new drugs are approved based on changes to a surrogate measure. But the problem is is that for many of those surrogate measures. They aren't as well validated as we'd like them to be and so then the drug reaches the market. We know that changes the sergey measure. We don't know how it affects patients. real clinical outcomes. And so we need to do additional testing now that the drugs on the market and that becomes a lot more complicated so it really is about the quality of the validation between that surrogate endpoint. And how a patient feels functions and survives you very elegantly put it in a lot of cases that evidence is just not as well validated. Interesting point here is also a question of where research goes There's a lot more money in generating some sort of biopharmaceutical that you can take to trial based on some questionably validated surrogate than there is in actually validating the surrogate endpoint. And and so you have mismatch of where the research actually goes. You touched on this in your last in your last answer. But the idea of these independent review panels can. Can you talk to us about why they're so important in the drug approval process. Well the fda is the center for drug approval in the us and sometimes The fda has questions about a particular point in the in data or that they receive part of a new drug application That's a controversial point and if they have a question about that then They can bring in an outside advisory to help them answer. That question and advisory committees are usually made up of experts in a wide range of subject matter. You know the the clinical field itself epidemiology biostatistics. These advisory committees may even have a. We'll we'll have a consumer representative on the even may have an industry representative who doesn't usually vote but nonetheless they bring together this panel of outside experts and present this controversial point to them and get an outside advice on what to do and then the fda can decide what to do with that advice about seventy five percent of the time. The fda follows the advice of the advisory committee. But i think the advisory committee process is really important because if so first of all gives the it gives the fda access to outside expertise on a particular question if it needs it and second of all it provides you know an independent review of a controversial questions so that when the fda makes a decision they can say look you know in addition to to thinking about this ourselves we also brought it before this independent panel and they said xyz and that can help provide support for the fda's decision or trust in the fda's decision now. Let's get to the matter at hand. The fda approved a drug called educated mob traded as agile home which is an alzheimer's drug. That is specific for people with early stage..

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"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

04:58 min | 6 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

"Thank you so much for taking the time. I'm really excited to have you on the pod. This is the topic that keeps on giving man. It's just it's such a fascinating story. Yeah it has been. It has been a very interesting few weeks for sure. I can imagine your life. Well thank you for a leadership. Be sharing with us. Ready to get started for sure. Yeah absolutely Can you introduce yourself with the type shore. My name is aaron kessel. Hi i'm i'm a An internist and lawyer and a professor of medicine at brigham women's hospital and harvard medical school. Dr aaron kessel. Hyme is one of the country's top experts on pharmaceutical policy teaching at harvard medical school and chance full of public health. He sat on the. Fda's advisory panel which overwhelmingly voted against the approval of algae home just months before it was approved after the fda ignored the panels decision. Dr kessel along with two other colleagues resigned from the panel. I reached out to him to help us understand all the contours of the decision. And what it means for the future of the fda and prescription drug affordability in the us overall. Can you tell us about how a drug usually goes through the approval process. Sure well you know about sixty or so years ago. We decided in the us that drugs prescription drugs should be tested For their effectiveness and safety before they are allowed to be widely sold by manufacturers and so as a result of that decision Now drugs go through a relatively extensive testing process that starts with early testing laboratory testing and then eventually moves in two human clinical trials and then it goes through a process of clinical trials. I usually in healthy volunteers to get a sense of of what a safe dose of the drug might be And then eventually gets tested in patients who have the disease in order to determine what affects the drug has and what safety profile is and then ultimately that massive data get submitted to the fda and if the benefits look like they outweigh the risks than the fda will approve the drug for widespread use and presumably right when we talk about benefits..

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"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

01:46 min | 6 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

"We can negotiate that fifty six thousand dollar price tag down as other insurance might instead you and i are left paying the full price tag for a drug. That barely works. If only a six of patients with alzheimer's were prescribed the drug. It would cost medicare fifty billion dollars a year. So let me summarize here. Biogen used underhanded tactics to get their approved then. They exploited suffering people desperate for treatment to push government program into funding in all but ineffective drug was serious side effects. That could bankrupt medicare. but here's the good news. There was an uproar in the alzheimer's community. Several medical centers including the cleveland clinic announced. They wouldn't prescribe the medication insurance companies. Who said they won't cover it. And the centers for medicare and medicaid services who administer medicare have kicked off an internal review process to assess whether the drug meet standards for coverage. Meanwhile the office of the inspector general is investigating the fda approval process. The story of kanye mab capture so much of which wrong with prescription drugs in america the blatant promotion of profit over patients exploitation of people desperate for some hope attempt to cajole pressure and force public programs into underwriting private greed. Today we're diving in further our guest knows these contours all too. Well dr eric. Kessel high was one of the members of the. Fda's initial advisory panel that voted against approving kanye map after the fda nor the panel. Dr castle heim resigned in protest today. He joins us to talk about educating bab his decision to resign and breakdown pharmaceutical policy overall as one of the nation's leading experts in the field after.

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"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

04:59 min | 6 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed

"System versed. Let's talk specifics. Alzheimer's disease is awful. It robs people of the things that make them who they are. They're memories their habits. Their families over time. Their lives alzheimer's disease isn't suffered alone by the person brain is destroying the agonies lived out by all the people who loved them. It breaks minds and hearts until now. There hasn't been a single alzheimer's medication approved by the fda for nearly twenty years. Even as rates of alzheimer's disease of skyrocketing some six million people in their families are suffering. And they're desperate for a new breakthrough in recent years. Scientists who study alzheimer's disease have found a remarkable thing in brains of people with alzheimer's the presence of plaques proteins that they don't find another brains these plaques called beta amyloid plaques are thought to play a role in the pathogenesis of alzheimer's disease. But the problem is that we don't really know what they actually do. Just that patients suffering alzheimer's have them in their brain. Despite not knowing the role that these plans play in alzheimer's biotech companies have been working to manufacturer. Antibodies which attack these beta amyloid plaques in hopes that an antibody could be the cure or at least a treatment for the disease biogen the drug manufacturer behind a series of drugs that treat multiple sclerosis or ms. We're able to develop educate you antibody. That does just that. But here's the thing. It's not clear that attacking those plaques actually addresses the symptoms of alzheimer's disease amyloid plaques have become what drugmakers call surrogate endpoint. Some physiologic measure that we think is tied to the pathology trying to treat. But doesn't guarantee a direct improvement in pain function or survival so does treating plaques actually slow cognitive decline. That was the ultimate question. Biogen wants to answer in two large clinical trials. The results no treating the plex had little to no therapeutic effect on alzheimer's in fact independent auditors. Shut down both of the trials because early evidence showed that the drug didn't appear to be helping patients and the side effects were common and serious patients on the drug half the have regular brain memorized to monitor for brain swelling and bleeding. Biogen press on anyway. They re the trial findings looking for any shred of evidence that the drug might work. They found that in one arm of one of the trials patients on the highest dose of educating map had a tiny reduction in the speed of cognitive decline on.

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Fauci Is the Mascot for Big Government

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:34 min | 6 months ago

Fauci Is the Mascot for Big Government

"Of fao she has become the caricature of big pharma. Big government anti-freedom measures and quite honestly he has become the mascot of unreasonable and corrupt decisions. That have been made from our government. Now vouch iw. Is someone that we've talked about for quite some time. F- ouchi is a great example of what happens when government gets too big when government gets too big. You get these rather clever. Sly devious and dare i say slippery. Operators who are able to be a permanent attribute of the system they. They're very difficult to remove. They know what to say it congressional hearings they know how to get and receive congressional funding. They know how to turn people against each other they are experts in failing upwards the never got anything consequential they have no massive successes two point two instead he can just say a been here for forty years and somehow that allows him to stay. It's almost as if he has a black male file on every single person is department. He is the highest paid employee of the entire federal government

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President Biden Signs Economic Executive Order

Press Play with Madeleine Brand

00:49 sec | 7 months ago

President Biden Signs Economic Executive Order

"Big companies taking over potential rivals that he says limit affordable options for the average consumer. Today he signed an executive order that targets a broad spectrum of industries like big tech, Big Pharma and big agriculture. Heart of American capitalism is a simple idea. Open and fair competition. That means that if your companies want to win your business, they have to go out. And they have to up their game. Goals carved out in 72 actions and recommendations to federal agencies include urging the FCC to block Internet service providers from exclusive deals with landlords that limit tenants choices. Also wants the agency to restore net neutrality rules requiring broadband companies to treat all Internet services equally.

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J&J to Pay $263 Mln in New York Opioid Settlements, Avoids Trial

Kim Komando

00:31 sec | 7 months ago

J&J to Pay $263 Mln in New York Opioid Settlements, Avoids Trial

"Drug maker Johnson and Johnson has agreed to halt the sale of opioids nationwide and Settlement with the state of New York. The $230 million settlement follows years of lawsuits brought by states counties and cities against Big pharma over the opioid epidemic. While the lawsuits allege that companies overprescribe the pain meds, the drugmakers say they've only distributed what was needed to help those with certain medical issues, And the trouble is not over for Johnson and Johnson as the company is facing more court cases across the

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"big pharma" Discussed on Medicare for All

Medicare for All

04:57 min | 7 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Medicare for All

"Fake front groups in And a goes to congress and says. Oh my god if you do this. We're not going to get the invasion we need. We don't care what it costs you know. We just want the drugs because there's no cure for my disease there's no treatment for my disease etc and so having people come Leave their story or give us their email. Wait we will put them to work. We harnessed those voices. We have three hundred forty thousand people in our patient. duran our ally community right now. and We harness stem and They they send letters and make phone calls and all of that and it is our voices and we're fortunate to have resources. We don't accept money from anybody who profits from the developed under distribution of prescription drugs. Nobody but we do have resources and we put those resources to work. They'll never match farmers resources. But those voices and those stories have power and that's what we're going to beat them with so patients for affordable drugs battle. Completely out of that. I can also put. We can put that in the show notes for all of listeners. We can that will also be in the chat when this is finished and so andrew. I know you're also part of some some organizations that are working on the global equity. Can you tell us a little bit about those organizations end on how people can support or get involved absolutely and i just really appreciate it. David sort of model of this is going to be people power driven if we're going to win at. There's a lot of money and big power. That's that's in play but at the end of the day there are a lot of organizations have been fighting for health justice for decades and they saw the moment that we're in and they've stepped up and so i don't work for any organization some unplugging them because they're wonderful so groups like health gap act up people's vaccine alliance which is related to oxfam at partners in health..

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"big pharma" Discussed on Medicare for All

Medicare for All

04:03 min | 7 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Medicare for All

"Revel amid is the second most expensive drug for medicare to be given to forty two thousand patients out of forty six million on medicare party up a teeny tiny fraction because his drug is so wildly overprice and it's overpriced because the company has manipulate our system in order to keep competition off the mark and we let him get away with it. We don't bargain every other country in the world. Every other developed country for sure bargains with the drug companies. We don't and the result is we're paying almost four times but those countries pay for other brand name for the exact same brand name guts and that touches on something that's actually current right now in congress. I mean obviously one of the reasons. We don't negotiate. Drug prices in the united states is we don't have medicare for all system like most countries do where you have a sort of the country prices for the whole population but there is a debate right now in congress about letting medicare negotiate drug prices. Can you tell us a little bit about that. And people have Sort of get involved right now. And what difference would that make if medicare to negotiate some of these drug prices rose. I say we're paying four times. What other countries fade. Because we don't you. Can you can think about what we could do with that difference if we could reduce it. Probably everyone else while. Yes there's enough money to do a lot of things that would help. People get better healthcare but there is a bill in congress. It's called in the house it's called. Hr three it would let medicare negotiate for lower prices for parts for all drugs. It extend those lower prices to the private sector. It would put a cap on price increases annually at no more than the rate of inflation. It would lower the out of pocket. Maximum for medicare beneficiaries like did a eighteen thousand dollars a year for a single drag down to two thousand max and we really should go lower than that and it would direct an amount of the savings to nih to ensure new drug development new innovation new basic science..

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Parents Are Standing up Against Big Education and Critical Race Theory

The Dan Bongino Show

01:49 min | 8 months ago

Parents Are Standing up Against Big Education and Critical Race Theory

"One of the things I talked about last night. Is the importance the primacy. Critical necessity of local action. How parents some of them for the first time when their kids were, you know, sent home doing their zoom classes with the coronavirus played there. They looked through their kids textbooks for the first time. And they said Wait. What the hell is this? I thought we were teaching our kids history, real history, battle scars and everything. Don't think we were teaching. Our kids had to be racist. But, ladies, gentlemen, that's what's happening. As critical race theory. You know, liberals will say there's no official critical race theory. No ladies and gentlemen, that's nonsense. It's an indoctrination process and they use euphemisms to get around it. That is exactly what's happening. We've seen some of the lectures in corporate America. We've heard on tape some of the attacks on our school kids. Critical race theory is racist, period full stop. There's no debate about that. And if you believe in critical race theory, as I've said repeatedly, it will say again. I'm sorry to tell you you're a racist too. Why am I bringing this up? Because people are getting intimidated at the, uh Very Very rewarding and enlightening fact that people are starting to act up. Starting to stand up. They've had enough they found out when and where their school board meetings are. And they don't like it. You know you have. What are the Liberals got? Big tech, Big Pharma. Big business, You know, it's interesting. They never talk about big education. Isn't a knock on teachers, but it is a knock on some corporate interests and others that make a whole lot of money off critical race theory. Critical race theory, activism classes wasn't really expensive textbooks.

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"big pharma" Discussed on The Argument

The Argument

02:53 min | 8 months ago

"big pharma" Discussed on The Argument

"It happening gradually. We're getting one step closer to hugging to dancing to shaking our neighbors hand with every covid. Nineteen vaccination your local. Cbs is helping us. Get one step closer. So what are you want to be one. Step closer to a big wedding spin class share with. You can't wait to do with hashtag one step closer and tag cvs pharmacy. Here's to being one. Step closer to a better tomorrow today. On the argument what's the best way to vaccinate the world. The international charity doctors without borders is urging rich countries to take steps to allow more krona virus vaccines to be produced right around the world. Intellectual property rights prevent other countries from making domestic versions of vaccine's but waiving his rights would allow developing nations to produce vaccines without fear of reprisal white house now says that it supports waving the intellectual property protections for the covid nineteen vaccine to help fight the disease around the world to keep us safe here at home and to do the right thing helping other people. It's the right thing to do. Only about ten.

All About Crane's Critter Care

Say What Needs Saying

06:47 min | 11 months ago

All About Crane's Critter Care

"We are back we are doing a new segment where we bring on a small business owner so we can talk a little bit about their business about what they do. What kind of issues or problems. They've come up. Come against in starting in running a business. You know maybe business during kobe and whatever comes up and so right now we have with us gen from cranes critter care john. Thanks for joining us for the first small business segment. Thank you so much for inviting us into i actually chow four chinchilla friends with me this ursula one thing. That's a little bit different about further care. Is we go far beyond just captain dogs. We do all sorts of exotic whether it's earned small mammals sarmiento reptiles anything because we have so many people that have pets chats dogs in. I noticed when i was working at the ap l. That was a big issue. People were having was not being For anything other than just basing cat dog or if they had animal what medical issues. So that's one thing that Critter cares able to do is we can do animals with medical issues whether that be needing shots multiple times a day medications multiple times a day. We can do dogs or cats with behavioral issues. That could normally go to a kennel or normal. Dog sitter whether it be sonic stranger danger or anything bats. We also work with harder cheeses. I personally love the challenges in house. Seven years experience were sheltered in animals because training shelter. Animal is so much different than training in that. You thought from the pet store in today's nickel company though. It's just a little bit different methods of going about things but it's been really great overall. We've had to change a lot of cova right. And that's one thing. This kind of bennett trick is as cova comes up each month. We have to kind of a daft. Do whatever we see that customers are looking for whether if the people going out of town so that increase number of training sessions of we noticed people wanting more medical care people wanting more educational seminars. So whatever people are looking for cranes critter cares filling in that gap and just go with the flow of were covance. Add in what people are meeting with as far as animal care. So where would you say you start. Sounds like such an amazing and valiant effort that you're doing especially for individuals in the community. You're almost like an immeasurable acid because through You're still trying to push still trying to make sure that the animal care is first and foremost so what pushed you into his avenue this world so i actually started adding animal shelter as a veterinarian assistant. I was there for four years and then i switched to another shelter as their main foster four nader doing educational seminars. And that's one of the biggest issues i noticed was i was in the intake department where people would surrender. Animals in have issues in a big thing is lack of education whether it be their animal has issued. They don't know how to properly train or fix it. So then immediately playbay. Just surrender or their four hours a day. Don't have anyone to let them out in the they don't have time to have an animal or someone passed away or moved out there. Sheila left behind. They have no idea how to take care of. It can shallow surrender over and it's one of those things where the more education were able to provide the public a lot. More people keep animals in their homes. Take better care of their animals. It makes a better relationship between the owner of pet in more animals. Just stay healthy happy home. So it's a little bit of keeping animals out of the shelter keeping almond good conditions just for improve quality of life for everyone right. Yeah no so. I wanted to actually ask about something along those same lines. Since we've been going through cova. This is something that we touched on. In in one of my classes actually we were talking about Pharmaceuticals and medications for animals versus for people Was he was business of biology through. You're talking about big pharma quite a bit but you know one of the things that came up is that there's different right if you have a life threatening disease or disorder. You're probably more likely to get that medication than you would. For a life threatening disease or disorder for an animal or at least some people are so along those same lines of what you were talking about. One thing that i was hoping to kind of get out there. One thing i think that needs saying is i'm sure that lots of people bought a new animal because the kobe right. You're locked up. You're stuck at home. You need a buddy someone. Yeah but that said tat. I'm slightly concerned that we're gonna see a big christmas dump ejup fact at the end of covid right where everyone is like. Well now. we're back at work now. We're back at school now. We're busy now. We don't have any time and so well. We have to get rid of the animals. So i guess i wanted to kick it over to jenin. Just see what you thought about that. Do you think that phenomenon is going to happen once we quote unquote get back to normal and like what could you say to pet owners. That currently do have their pet that you know maybe thinking of doing something like that so i completely agree and that's something even when i felt the shelter we talked about with so many people now that they're working from home temporarily were adopting animals but they're not thinking in the future a lot of those times so that's one thing during summer especially i focused on was doing seminars in different on how to prevent separation anxiety. That's gonna be one of the issues as well with on people getting poppies. The puppies are missing to people being home all day leaving for maybe two hours tops and all of a sudden you're drastically or changing their schedule their way of life pretty much by being gone nine ten hours a day. That's going to have a lot of issues with separation. Anxiety being the biggest one and then i see a lot of people once that happens to run around to shelters reasonable surrender.

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Australia Asks European Commission To Review Italy's Block On Vaccine Shipments

Mornings on the Mall with Brian Wilson

00:18 sec | 11 months ago

Australia Asks European Commission To Review Italy's Block On Vaccine Shipments

"Report later this morning, Australia seeking assurances from the European Commission that shipments of vaccines are not blocked again after Italy Banda large export of the AstraZeneca coronavirus shots, the quarter million does. Shipment was blocked from leaving. The EU is part of a system to ensure big pharma companies to

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"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

Backstage @ Upstage

08:03 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

"Having the kinds of issues that christie talking about his in addition to the pharmaceutical companies themselves. And that's a great place to start You know it's a drug that you're locked has been prescribed as too expensive. You can't worded go into the drug company directly and chances are they will have some resources some program that can help without because it's very much in the interests of the company that people aren't turned away or get off the drugs because they can't afford it but putting that aside there's also there are patient advocacy resources that specialize in helping solve these access. Costs challenges one terrific. One that cheryl. And i both know well from a previous work. The called the patient advocate foundation. It's as out of a washington. Dc area and they exist primarily to help patients navigate these issues and they do that every day. There's no patient there's no caregiver or does it every day or has that experienced that group like that brings table so i would encourage people to reach out. Patient advocate foundation and other groups. Like the i help with a lot of people. call navigation. Think that's a good term. That's great to know and so if you were prescribed something for particular from suitable company this is just a basic question who would a patient or care giver contact. How do you know in general. You can't call the main number and maybe you can. What how would you suggest somebody gets to the department or the person who could answer those questions whether they can get some help financial help will. It is somewhat different from company to company. I would say absolutely is to make sure you exhaust all avenues with your own insurance provider because at the you know the drug companies will will make sure that you've done that that's the way our system works so when when those avenues have been exhausted and figure out who. The manufacturer is of medicine in question. Their websites will either be hopefully make it obvious where you go for a patient assistance term of art of has not. You'll search on patient system on a website and and and the specific contact options should come up. It's usually a mixture combination a web address and email address toll free number find those resources on the company's website and then reach out to them. All of the major drug companies have dedicated teams. That answer those calls and the answer. That was email so you will get an answer. That's they can burn very sears. I could maybe interject hair so something has changed over the past five years i would say some companies will say they've had it longer but there have been resources put into hospitals as part of the doctor's office and then they have corresponding resources with the pharmaceutical representatives at the hospital to manage each person's case. So the doctor prescribes it and then he is going to refer you to his case manager. Who is going to work with the patient to get that drug reimbursed help with co pay and make sure that they have access to what they need and win. The patient is working with this case manager and they described that. There's that still too much for them to pay those case. Managers in the hospital now are really trained to know about these resources so i can think of several resources. Cancer care is an organization that has financial navigators you call them and you'll get a social worker financial navigator that will help you through this patient. Advocacy foundation will work directly with your insurance company. And not to mention. If you do look on the website of any pharma. They do have a ton of what they call patient assistance programs. It's not always just cost but it's sometimes it is the resource to help you navigate and not just the cost of a drag but the total impact. It might have on your cancer so they might help you find social workers to deal with your emotional needs or they might help to put you in a direction An advocacy groups that can get transportation for you heard something else like a third not the pharma company itself. But somebody else to help you. So i think starting at the beginning ms your case manager and then kind of going up. The path is the way to go now. I can't agree with you more Because that's that's exactly what we experienced when tony was prescribed. Twenty five thousand dollar drug it was. Here's the scripts and here's cancer care and cancer care will pay for bid deductible that your insurance won't pay for the hospital that we were at did hit a while back in i that's the only experience i know is is going down to the doctor now what to do when your insurance doesn't pay for something. That's the part that part i think. That's that's the gap right like between pharma. One insurance will pay for and then we'll pick up the difference if any so in the end as you look back or you think about your experience with pharma. What's your perspective at this point. I love pharma. I just i just had a great experience with it But i will say this. Though i have a different perspective when i sit back and i see the commercials to me like pharma means it means that people are trying out there working to cure a disease or help someone quality of lights or anything for that matter to me. It's it's now there's something new. There's something better. I just saw commercial the other day for On her hiv. How you can now. There's something out there where you won't transmit the disease anymore so it's just like wow to see that in my lifetime unbelievable it just gives. It gives me a lot of hope when i would hear that there is a new drug affair. There's new drugs in the pipeline. A guide you know. Maybe this will work. And i think that's a great way to to end this discussion today. Which is we shouldn't lose sight of how important it is to develop and produce new medications to help treat people and led people live and you know be a part of their families and have a future. That's the name of the game. We've got a complicated issue here. You guys have provided such great insights into various aspects from the patient to Experts on on the relationships to Communications at hand I the beginning conversation. I hope we'll talk some more at some other time. But i'm so grateful all of you join us for this podcast today to be a part of it thinks eldeen in q. To find out how you can join stage lung cancer in raising awareness and funding to beat lung cancer. Visit our website of stage lung cancer. Dot org we invite you to subscribe and download our podcast available on all platforms. And we'd love reviews and ratings after all showbiz people there's more entertainment and inspiration to come on the next podcast episode of that stage at upstage..

"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

Backstage @ Upstage

07:14 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

"You went. Through well. to be honest. I have been out of the medical side of it for a couple of years so something has come up in the past couple of years. I'm not aware of it. Gary dino if if we're in any kind of different landscape as has not changed during much there's been Gridlock as people are aware. I think in washington recent years around healthcare reform and so not a lot has changed the one thing i would put out that i would encourage folks to take advantage of. We're having the kinds of issues that christie talking about his in addition to the pharmaceutical companies themselves. And that's a great place to start You know it's a drug that you're locked has been prescribed as too expensive. You can't worded go into the drug company directly and chances are they will have some resources some program that can help without because it's very much in the interests of the company that people aren't turned away or get off the drugs because they can't afford it but putting that aside there's also there are patient advocacy resources that specialize in helping solve these access. Costs challenges one terrific. One that cheryl. And i both know well from a previous work. The called the patient advocate foundation. It's as out of a washington. Dc area and they exist primarily to help patients navigate these issues and they do that every day. There's no patient there's no caregiver or does it every day or has that experienced that group like that brings table so i would encourage people to reach out. Patient advocate foundation and other groups. Like the i help with a lot of people. call navigation. Think that's a good term. That's great to know and so if you were prescribed something for particular from suitable company this is just a basic question who would a patient or care giver contact. How do you know in general. You can't call the main number and maybe you can. What how would you suggest somebody gets to the department or the person who could answer those questions whether they can get some help financial help will. It is somewhat different from company to company. I would say absolutely is to make sure you exhaust all avenues with your own insurance provider because at the you know the drug companies will will make sure that you've done that that's the way our system works so when when those avenues have been exhausted and figure out who. The manufacturer is of medicine in question. Their websites will either be hopefully make it obvious where you go for a patient assistance term of art of has not. You'll search on patient system on a website and and and the specific contact options should come up. It's usually a mixture combination a web address and email address toll free number find those resources on the company's website and then reach out to them. All of the major drug companies have dedicated teams. That answer those calls and the answer. That was email so you will get an answer. That's they can burn very sears. I could maybe interject hair so something has changed over the past five years i would say some companies will say they've had it longer but there have been resources put into hospitals as part of the doctor's office and then they have corresponding resources with the pharmaceutical representatives at the hospital to manage each person's case. So the doctor prescribes it and then he is going to refer you to his case manager. Who is going to work with the patient to get that drug reimbursed help with co pay and make sure that they have access to what they need and win. The patient is working with this case manager and they described that. There's that still too much for them to pay those case. Managers in the hospital now are really trained to know about these resources so i can think of several resources. Cancer care is an organization that has financial navigators you call them and you'll get a social worker financial navigator that will help you through this patient. Advocacy foundation will work directly with your insurance company. And not to mention. If you do look on the website of any pharma. They do have a ton of what they call patient assistance programs. It's not always just cost but it's sometimes it is the resource to help you navigate and not just the cost of a drag but the total impact. It might have on your cancer so they might help you find social workers to deal with your emotional needs or they might help to put you in a direction An advocacy groups that can get transportation for you heard something else like a third not the pharma company itself. But somebody else to help you. So i think starting at the beginning ms your case manager and then kind of going up. The path is the way to go now. I can't agree with you more Because that's that's exactly what we experienced when tony was prescribed. Twenty five thousand dollar drug it was. Here's the scripts and here's cancer care and cancer care will pay for bid deductible that your insurance won't pay for the hospital that we were at did hit a while back in i that's the only experience i know is is going down to the doctor now what to do when your insurance doesn't pay for something. That's the part that part i think. That's that's the gap right like between pharma. One insurance will pay for and then we'll pick up the difference if any so in the end as you look back or you think about your experience with pharma. What's your perspective at this point. I love pharma. I just i just had a great experience with it But i will say this. Though i have a different perspective when i sit back and i see the commercials to me like pharma means it means that people are trying out there working to cure a disease or help someone quality of lights or anything for that matter to me. It's it's now there's something new. There's something better. I just saw commercial the other day for On her hiv. How you can now. There's something out there where you won't transmit the disease anymore so it's just like wow to see that in my lifetime unbelievable it just gives. It gives me a lot of hope when i would hear that there is a new drug affair. There's new drugs in the pipeline. A.

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"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

Backstage @ Upstage

06:40 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

"Wise the formula this expensive l. There's no question. Drugs are expensive new drugs new branded drugs or enormously expensive in some cases. Sometimes it does help to understand why they are expensive. Even if that doesn't pay the bills. And i think three things in particular explain high prices First and foremost it's the cost of development that sn it's really the big ones some patients at worry that they're paying for all of those tv commercials but ajay. Those costs marketing. Costs are very small in the scheme of things that the truly massive expenditures are for are indeed the are. That's the research it's the army of scientists that are screening drug candidates and doing basic research and the development of candidates into approved medicines. That aren't takes years on trials in the final stage which is called phase three involving in most cases thousands of patients on multiple continents so the cost of bringing a single drunk through that process processes measured in billions with a b. The second factor. That of people aren't aware of his. Is that so many drug candidates fail. They're cancelled at various points during the development process because they didn't work as it were expected to work but massive development costs have already been paid. So you as the patient or you a family member or caregiver you're not just paying for the for one particular drug than you're you or your loved one getting you're also paying or the others that failed for those development costs of drug companies needs to cover all of that with the revenues from treatments that do get approved. The drug companies have incentives to try to reduce the failure rate. But it's still pretty high. And then the third factor. Which again i think a lot of folks don't realize took me awhile even working in the industry to fully under understand elusive task life. Is you know. I think people are generally aware that they're the drugs are patented which means they can only be manufactured and sold by one company that does protect pricing ability and yes when when a company gets a new patent on drug candidate. It's usually for twenty years but the emphasis there is on the word candidates so the patent clock starts taking long before it drug is on the market by the time. All the clinical trials are finished the average new drunk as between seven and twelve years to earn back. Its costs of development. And so when you think about that. It's that's a very narrow window to earn back. The some cases you know. Two three billion dollars that had been invested into development. Not counting failures so that that's what drug companies are up against when they go out and help the price these treatments they have to recoup the actual development costs. They have to be coupes that costs failures and they have to do all that. In this. very narrow window of time before medicine becomes jarrett. Christie share a little bit about the incredible pressure. Put on you just one person with five kids and a sick husband. And then gary is going to address the overall issue of cost and medicine and so forth. What has it been like. Oh we found out on a saturday. That twenty had cancer saturday morning. And by saturday afternoon i had called life insurance and health insurance to find out how much it was going to cost and to make sure that things were covered or premiums repaid or any of that kind of stuff so the financial burden is definitely a real like to tell people that i unfortunately fortunately had a chance to do it again. Meaning tony had an initial diagnosis Went through a six month treatment and then had a a recurrence. Five years later. So i was able to learn from my mistakes so what i learned was that pharmaceuticals actually will help pay for drugs. If you have like meet certain criterias and things like that so i. I wasn't aware of that it first so the first time it was like tony wasn't working and the income wasn't bear end. My kids will tell you how turned the heat off. Upstairs made them all moved downstairs and we lived off of chicken and rice. Lake six months Just because we had. I mean you do what you have to do that. Needs treatment that becomes a priority something change in the middle of his treatment though in that seven years and i honestly don't know what it was it went from insurance. Paid for things to insurance did not pay for things that was really difficult for me to to experience They wouldn't pay for. They would pay for all the medical supplies for his feeding tube. They wouldn't pay for the formula that went in the feeding tube and then it was like he was in pain. The pain medication will wanna the pain medications. He was on cuss twenty. Four thousand dollars a month. Who has twenty four thousand dollars a month. Nobody and then you don't know what to do need to know what questions to ask in. What are the alternatives. And things. Like that i learned about. I think what was hard. Was i knew so much that when it came time for different treatments i was like. He won't qualify for that. So like Could you know the Some of the when you call it The pd l. Winds wanna make thinking of cheryl the precision medicine that it's thing immunotherapy. You know therapy. So i kinda got off track on cost but it was. It was definitely a challenge. It was definitely fighting with insurance companies. You know seeing if there was compassionate care if there were nonprofits out there if if farmers had a pot of money that could assistant a cost. There was so many different avenues. The average person unfortunately doesn't really know how to navigate all that so what's available now. That's different i mean. We have all these individual insurance companies on medicare's stepped up to pay for early For high risk lung cancer patients to get c. t. Scans the cover. It which rain nets really important to know but are we still at this moment in that kind of vague. Morass of chaos. Which is there's no central kind of information or we don't know who's gonna pay for what or when it will stop or when it will change anything different at.

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"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

Backstage @ Upstage

08:18 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

"And so we came back together and it wasn't even a full year because we didn't get what we needed. They tell they able to tell us what they needed in that atmosphere. So we got back together and we focused everything on the patient and we really listens to what their needs were what they were going through. Whether they were practical liens or clinic the liens or they were like psycho social emotional needs we listens. We put it all together and then we asked them. What should we do about it so we didn't go back as and just say oh. Great me listen now. Here's what we're gonna do for you. We really worked with the patients in the room and the caregivers and it was just magical and what was so surprising to me. I knew i would have a wonderful experience. I knew my colleagues win. But what i didn't anticipate were the friendships. That were created be between the caregivers the patients in the room and i van so grateful to see those friendships grow ends. People support each other when they need it you know. Here's after the first advisory board. Does that match your experience christie. Oh absolutely Cheryl of my closest friends. She knows more about me. And when i have i remember calling her one time going down downtown in a friend of my her stomach cancer come back and she was in one of the hospitals in her family was kinda lost and i call. Her in lake cheryl show. You have to help you have to help you know what what can we do. And just to have that relationship or you know Someone that cries with you. That's a means something you know. En- cheryl night together have lost. Unfortunately so many people and i think it drives us which is nice. It means everything in the ass everything back to the cast in just a moment up stage lung. Cancer exclusively uses music and the performing arts to get the word out about lung cancer through concerts and activities upstate helps fund much needed research as the saying goes find it treat. It beat it. Please subscribe to this podcast series and tell your friends. Oh and if you'd like to join our efforts consider a donation of out at upstage lung cancer dot org now. Back to the podcast. Now sometimes i hear even heard this on the simpsons when time farm i has this season he has a secret cure for cancer. But we're doling it out a little bit at a tongue. Yes money are you kidding. Do you think if after meeting christie. And tony who had such an impact on my life that if i you know i knew about this cure that was put in a closet somewhere that i would let it happen right right at all. I'm you hear that. And and i just think just humanizing People who work in the industry is just something that needs to be done. If i can jump in here. Is somebody in the media. When i'm not doing when i'm not doing great podcasts. With people like hillary. There's no question that there's been a media And sort of culture at supposition that big pharma is evil. Because it's big. And i think the pandemic and the arrival of these amazing vaccines in record. Time is a sea. Change the people. I'm talking within the biomed. Industry are saying that. Do you Both cheryl anne christie. Fill that way. We're going to get to gary. Get his take as well but cheryl starting with. You is spin along with all the great work. You're doing to create patient relation. has this been a huge watermark. Do you think allen it has I think there was more publicity about howard. Dragons developed but you know. I have to say just to be a little critical of the pharma side here. I feel like they could have along with what was going on. Talked about the resources that were necessary to make it happen. So that the general public could see. Just how many people and You know dollars. It took to do what could have taken seven years in in a few short months I think that that could have been done in. It have helped the understanding But farmer did not take time to do that because they were not gonna take resources away from working to get the vaccine developed in out to really tell their story at that time so kudos to them a question it's m. marin as out is that the one of the things i also thought farmers could do much better job with was. I was listening to some discussion with a researcher on on one of them. News shows and they were saying that the biggest mistake here was to call it warp speed. Because what calling it warp speed. Sounds like somebody ran down to their basement and whipped up some kind of drug and then sending it out which made a lot of people uncomfortable and not trusted. It's too fast. But in fact what he was talking about was that this you know investigations into using mri with these viruses. Cetera has been going on for a long time so if it were more public again. It's it's a gut the information out. Get the truth out the accurate about what's going on and if it's you know we've been working on this for a long time and now we can speed up to get the drug together and out to the patient it would have seemed heroic rather than either amazing stonning like it's never been done before or i don't trust this. This isn't so a farmer might benefit itself by having a better way of of promoting it in the media really. It's my pleasure to introduce gary. And since i just brought up the communications is about how to you know. Get accurate and truthful information out to the public. Why didn't you say a little something about how that does or doesn't happen and might be better. Well i think it's fair to say that pharma as an industry has had issues with our talks about itself and presents itself to the outside world for a while. I think it has gotten better I think the same spirit. Gerald talked about regard to sort of saying enough already interns about funky. The industry engage with patients. I think there's been a similar realization that we have to start getting real and speaking plain language and being a lot more upfront. About our communication of our mission over all and out drugs are developed. Why they cost so much so things that have been learned. There's clearly a long ways to go. I think your your point about using the term warp speed has a good one. I i believe that was not by the industry but by the administration in washington. If some good comes of that. I i hope he will start asking. Well we're able to do it so quickly for this purpose. Why can't we do drug development. The scene developed more quickly for for other purposes. Why can't we always use warp speed. We have to go back to the previous feed. And i think that question gets asked lobby for the good morning. The pandemic is over that any of us are going to be returning to pre pandemic behavior in any aspect of our life. And i think the same goes for for pharma. What they've learned this gerry. The question that is on everyone's mind is. How is it possible that these things are so expensive at. I think we all understand the science and the research and the amazing amount of work but overall.

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"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

Backstage @ Upstage

07:47 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Backstage @ Upstage

"We're so delighted to be here today. Backstage at up stage to have a wonderful discussion with some great guests. The question today is pharma friend or foe. And we'll have the patient in pharma perspectives. I love all that alliteration so today. Our guests are cheryl davis gary guy pell and christie littered and down. We'll start with with christy very interested in hearing your particular story. My husband was diagnosed with stomach cancer when he was thirty. Nine and i was thirty. We have like five boys in Yeah just a mom that got got hit with the stomach. Cancer journey and didn't know what to do in stumbled across this awesome advocacy organization called. Debbie's dream which we were invited to be on this ad board. I was like what's an ad board. Not what that even is next thing. You know like in this board room and i'm talking to what i now know is pharma people. But i didn't know what they were like. I had no idea. I just know that there is like really excited. And they were really nice and and then when i heard more more i was like olo albay care about is are. We gonna buy drug. It wasn't until like a year later that they actually took what we wanted things with it but it was. It was really. It was really awesome so great great relationships in journey so glad i had quote in my back pocket there. I would just like to ask about your notions before getting involved with pharma whether your opinions you know were set as a lot of people's opinions sadly are about the big pharma industry. Yeah i didn't know like. I didn't really know anything about the commercials on tv. That made this side effect sound way worse than the disease itself and we used to joke about it like i didn't really know anything about it. You know you hear cancer and all you think is like thirty thousand dollars. You don't think that there's hell lake. There was nothing good. That's for sure. I mean basically over the seven year journey Just grateful honestly. For the pharmaceutical industry you know and being able to still be a mom and find a balance and just cancer changed our whole our whole world laker whole life. You know Unfortunately we lost tony two years ago. So airing inc you it's It's definitely been a journey. And i'm just happy that i can continue his legacy and continue emission from a different perspective. Does one more question for me before we have hill introduce our other guests and that is christie. It's well beyond just the medicines and the pharmaceutical discoveries as you point out there were materials and support groups. Help you meet your goals. Your personal goals. Tell us about that. Yeah yes so. The the first thing was this boozier so i went to this symposium down in florida where pharma was like there is. There is far more people there. There was patients and caregivers. And there's all sorts of people there and they're all in one room talking about the latest and greatest tools in research and drugs in for the first time. Like i got hope you know what i mean and i was like. Oh wait a minute. There's people actually working on this disease and I made sure to go to each and every single one. That i could support. Groups are more for me. It was it was every time we get together all the you know. The the pharmaceutical people would bring all of the patients in caregivers together and not became like support group. How do we eat again without a stomach. How do you care for someone without a stomach where the latest treatment options. All of that like. I didn't know any of it until i got to go to the symposiums which i'm grateful for them. So the very first advocate. Add board that we were on there is maybe like fifteen to twenty people around a conference room and my husband actually got sick. He had a really hard time sitting at the table so he actually went into in executives. What his beat up on a desk just to kind of relax. The the response was never again. Will we have to put a patient and executive office so the next year that we had an aboard there were couches brought in or blanket. There's coca cola. Because that's what i really liked the time they actually listens to what we said and then it was like okay so one of the things that was brought up was sitting in the room where you have cancer and you have no idea what to do and everything gets locked out. And how great would it have been. Somebody said he gives stomach cancer. Here's a book that has all the questions you know that you may have or may not have what to expect not to expect places to write notes meds your on etcetera so the second at board we actually as a group rotates like patients and caregivers actually wrote it and it was it was really awesome and the We didn't have to necessarily be in suits. We could actually go from business to business cash which was nice end by like the third or fourth atp board. We didn't have to leave the hotel. We were in sweatpants or yoga pants. Flip flops big fluffy couches. The food was right there in the room. If we wanted it just so much more inviting because caregivers are exhausted. Like i was exhausted all the time that i got to show up in not have to sit prim and proper was fantastic and my husband if he had go lay down. Aglietta do miss. Oh right upstairs which was nice to go in the back room where there is a catch. They listened. That's what i was going to say. So you felt that pharma listened to you. They the patients were able to have a voice. Yet they even. They even put a pamphlet together for people that didn't have stomach and how they could eat and they had his try different foods because for stomach cancer. The hardest thing is eating because they take your stomach out or part of your stomach or you're having treatment you have a blockage you can't eat. So what are different foods that you can try and everything the doctors tell you tasted like look so they actually had a try different late organic foods and shakes and stuff so we can put a cookbook together or a on like a guy on different foods to eat it was. It's really neat. Like what would all they're actually doing for for patients to the must've have been very moving for you to be taken seriously and so generously responded to. I guess that's how i think about it. Oh absolutely it. It makes me like i know. This sounds probably kinda weird. But whenever i hear people talk negatively about pharma. I have such a different perspective so i find myself way. We'll wait a minute you're hearing was you hear on the news. Like let me between my experience as far a they. They took my concerns. They took my voice. They took all of it. They put it into action. You know and now. It's helping other people and i don't know about you but i love making a difference. My ego gets in the way with that sometimes but it's just nice to help others being of service. It's important okay. My dear friend cheryl davis whom i met when she was working at lily and we have sustained a long term relationship. She's now on the board at upstage lung cancer. And we're grateful to have her and her experience with a patient. Relations is vast so Love to hear your thoughts.

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"big pharma" Discussed on WAAM Talk 1600

WAAM Talk 1600

01:48 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on WAAM Talk 1600

"Whether it's the Vatican or whether it's big business or whether it right big tag or big, big medicine, Big insurance, Big Pharma and How about that clip at the beginning there, Liz quote. You should not assume I am not corrupt. And that was 30 some years ago, and I've never heard that at all games. I've never heard their clip. You know, there's an old saying when somebody shows you who they are. I'll lead them. Well, We should have done that 30 years ago. And you know this is what I want to tell people because these two guys were friends. Ted McCarrick, Cardinal Ted MK air corrupt. Financially. Krupp, sexually corrupt predator of young boys and males in Joe Biden. They were, you know, very close friends. This is the Vatican. Rodney McKay, Eric from the Vatican. Yes, he was. Actually he was the cardinal from Washington, D C. And for 60 years you trade on boys. Everybody kept silent, But everyone said Oh, he's so nice. So, terming he's just he's got that quick, Irish wit. Sounds just like the way they described Joe Biden end. You know, Biden in in McCarrick, and all of them played footsie with the CCP. And you don't so we've gotta wake up and be a little more sophisticated. You know, the, uh, the little Irish a leper con, you know, with the glint inside the glad handing politicians Be wary. I much rather have the rough and tumble tumble guide from Queens whose Ah street fighter I mean in our country, you would think that the leader of the free will The world needs to be an Alfa male, right? I want an elf a mail in that position. I don't want the glad handing. You know, Irishman from Delaware. They be home of corporate America..

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"big pharma" Discussed on Eric Erb Live

Eric Erb Live

03:09 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Eric Erb Live

"The headline Big Pharma achieves total legal immunity for corona. Virus Vaccines. Even. As vaccine injections will be forced into billions of people potentially killing tens of millions. Okay. Let's get right into the article here. We now have arrived. At the ultimate money-making scam for Big Pharma. A corrupt criminal industry that's going going to great lengths to pressure big tech to censor all speech that doesn't earned more prophets. Now, vaccine manufacturers like Astra Zeneca are openly bragging about how they've achieved absolute legal immunity from all sides caused from the corona vaccines even as Doctor Evil Faouzi. And other ponds. The Vaccine Industry are pushing mandatory vaccine injections for billion billions of people. All right. You have no right to say no in other words, but you also have no right to sue. If. The product turns out to be faulty and causes injury or harm. This is now the status quo for the lawlessness anti-human vaccine industry, and it's all corrupt collaborators such as big tech big media medical schools complicit medical journals, Astra Zeneca. has been granted protection for future product liability claims related to its covid nineteen vaccine. Hopefully, most of the countries for which it struck supply agreements The United States already has a law to exclude a tort. AH tort being like a waiver folks a tort tort claims from products that help control public health crises in the form of two thousand, five public readiness and emergency preparedness or prep. act. So that was a law that was back in two thousand, five folks they passed that law just basically. So big pharmaceutical companies could pump out a drug pump out of vaccine and Lo and behold they could do anything and everything they wanted to do. But a course nobody's GonNa take the liability for that. You know once you know these these scumbag PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES THEY they won't take any any responsibility whatsoever and the. You can thank the US government and Congress for that folks she can absolutely thank him. So if your child or if your spouse or somebody gets shot or is forced this vaccine and let's say. The antibodies in the shot don't agree with your particular body chemistry. Okay. Everybody has a unique DNA. I explained that on a on a podcast here a few days ago your DNA is like if you will like an operating system to..

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"big pharma" Discussed on Eric Erb Live

Eric Erb Live

05:40 min | 1 year ago

"big pharma" Discussed on Eric Erb Live

"Across America and and can even be used as prevention medication. then it goes on to say There's a video presentation of doctors that spend deleted everywhere across the big tech platforms and a desperate effort to make sure Americans don't learn that. We don't have to keep suffering and dying while waiting for a vaccine that might be a failure anyway yet evil big tech giant's media publishers have decided that all Americans are not allowed to watch. This video doctors offering lifesaving. Proven. Information that can end the pandemic instead google. Youtube. FACEBOOK and even v Mo- would rather see Americans, suffering dies so that the vaccine narrative can be aggressively pushed on that enriches big Pharma. So Okay folks I'm going to stop right here and pause for just second. That is the narrative. What's going on these big tech companies are in lock step with the big pharmaceutical companies. One is as I always say one is in bed with another and it doesn't matter..

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"big pharma" Discussed on One Life Radio Podcast

One Life Radio Podcast

13:43 min | 2 years ago

"big pharma" Discussed on One Life Radio Podcast

"You're in the replace your listening to one life radio this is Bernadette with diamond gray on about the end terms I've got sean glows in studio with me and Doug Coffman Hey everyone how're you doing so glad we're teaching me how to Dougie did you say teach me how to what to Dougie Dougie how would they was a dance oh is that a damn about doing the Dougie the Dougie the duck diamond can you pull it up a song and dance and they don't have it in here Dan thank you well it's your dance let's great to have you in Studio you've been in studio before but a long time ago right longtime ago long time ago Oh for those of you that have never doug coffin he he is an amazing guy we're gonNA be talking about the fungus link to women's health problem owns one of his newest books but he has been in this business for a very long time he was trained as an emergency medicine originally as a US Navy hospital airman and then went onto study fungi and human diseases so we're GONNA be talking all about it and of course sean wells a regular on the show is a registered Dietitian sports nutrition Ernest fellow of the that's the international society of Sports Nutrition and has his masters of public health and nutritional biochemistry and he's the world's greatest formulator as well as a lot of other things and I've been on Doug Show and you've been on Doug Show can you do the Dougie out no I can't and you guys talked Kito right you talked abby can do it dougy I'm not doing it but yes I can she's GonNa do a course on the break we're GonNa get it on social media no we're not yes we're going to watch videos does the show is going to be great it really is we're talking about some really important things Sean Wells is here today to talk about flu shots and the Blue One of the things that I'm very passionate about and so you might WanNa stay tuned because I think you'll like what he has to say and of course the Dougie or the Doggie I've got more Davies on the line China she is the vice president of communications at the SPCA that is the Society for the prevention of Cruelty to animals of North Texas How you doing today uh doing great for Rafer Cooler Weather Yeah Oh yeah I can't wait I know I know I love the cooler weather and I also love how the dogs get a break to all the animals and the cats everybody that's outside you know unfortunately maybe not in a loving home but adopting animals is such an important thing it really is you know Charlie's doing really well my newest adopted he's he is such a joy and I have to tell you like more he's an incredible watchdog group? an incredible watchdog like really really smart and and so that's kind of what we're talking about today is when adopting dog the rule of three let's talk about this I think this is how important and I want to encourage everyone out there to think about you know adopting a dog or maybe another dog a companion dog for maybe the dog that you have or another cat about you sean you're you've got one cat one dog if you thought about getting another one to one company Seattle all my pets have been adopted so yeah yeah Okay well let's let's talk about this rule of three because I've seen this actually happened with Charlie it is it really is it's real it's it's it solid advice so it's the rule three it's three days three weeks three months so what happens when you bring a new dog to Your House that you've adopted you've adopted from a shelter or rescue group your your new Pettus Baiter neutered so you're hitting all those great points but this is your new best friend this is your new family member and so it's GonNa take some time for your dog to adjust to your home so the first three days after you bring your dog home he's going to be kind of overwhelmed he might not be very trouble to eat even he might be Kinda scared wondering what's going on if he wants to curl up in his bed under your bed in a closet in his CREPE it's just fun give him some space then after about three weeks till settle in help feel comfortable he'll get start getting used to his routine that needs that hopefully and then you'll start to see his real personality shine through little by little and it took that point that sometimes if there is going to be a behavior issue that you're not expecting it may crop up during that three week time and so it's also your time after that about three weeks to be a good strong pack leader and show him what's right and wrong through pods would've rewards based training and then after three months your dog should be completely comfortable in his new home and you have bonded and you have that full trust the tweet each other and your rock and roll on your way to a lifetime full love it this is important too because I mean think about it when bring baby home you know it takes a while for you for you to even adjust being a new parent let alone a new pet owner because you know animals babies are easier to control than like an animal you know what I'm saying and around much the beginning yeah yeah yeah it was so I'm I meant to with Charlie and I have to tell you like he's smarter than I ever realized he knows how to sit and do a lot of different things and he takes all of his cues from me he'll go in and out of his little dog area that I have now and he's he's really offense tastic dog and I encourage anyone out there listening that is thinking about adopting a dog to maybe you know go ahead and do it you know but do it well right do it yes that's important and there are a few things that you can do from that instant you get your new dog home that will help you both up for success this is one that actually early as I was talking to folks there were I kind of blew my mind it's been a really long time since I brought a new pet home so it's like Oh wow I gotta share this so the thing to do is to let your your new dog get used to the outside of your home first house around the smells in go for a walk for an awesome energy but the most important part of this is to show him where he's going to go potty go potty so hopefully if especially if you've just come from the shelter the rescue group they're probably going to need to go so that'll set them up for success oh that's a good town yeah and then the next step you WanNa do is to prepare in and jump around let them kind of happen time maybe give him a room of their own for at least a few days will you know I have I have four big male dogs and I have not not really introduced to all of them from far I have or through the fence it's going okay you know I have total but it does take time anything anything it takes time it really does and and I think eventually they will probably all get along but it's GonNa take a little work now most people don't have that many dogs they're talking about one or two not not entertain but but you have to give the dog a little time don't you and same with cats too when you bring a cat home typically you don't even see him for several days because they hide and they hide so well you think you've thought you think they've gotten out I've had that happen to me multiple times and they'll climb up into like a fireplace or you know things that you would never think to look it's true and you have a really good point one other successful for bringing home a new pet whether it's a dog or cat before you get them home like roam around without having them on a lead because you know there's so many doggy smells everywhere and so he lifted his leg and peed on one of my columns like in my you know yeah and and I didn't yell at them I just I just told him no no no no no you can't pee there Charlie gotta go outside and peace so I took him outside said this is where. Up Charley outside honey you know then I brought him back in watered around a little bit more I cleaned up the P. I didn't lose my mind but you know you have to be prepared for that and you can't you can't be hard on the animal they're just they're just doing what they what their instinct tells them to do right you're so right yeah you're right they're just trying to get there what what their program you done and talking about lifting lag that's very natural impulse especially for male dog even if it can it happens there there's that expression you know this is where you did this come on now yeah and I I just I enjoy my animals so much I do so we're talking about the rule of three if you're just now joining us we're going to jump off the air here with more Davies she is the vice president of communications at the SPCA but before we do let's go over these rules again more for anybody maybe it's just now joining us oh yes the real three so when you adopt a dog three days your new dog is just figuring everything out three weeks they have figured everything else what's and they're starting to get a really good sense of the routine and then at three months they're part of the family and a part of that process make sure your pets are spayed or neutered puts an important part too yeah and they are a part of your family you know my little dog suzy I discovered last night is having a problem she actually has a two o'clock doctor's appointment animals because they are a part of your family and they would never abandon you so you don't Wanna abandon them right more now at love is a wonderful thing it is the pet in so unconditional it's a rare and precious thing indeed it is all right well thank you so much always a pleasure more davies from the SPCA of North Texas have great day more thank y'all to all right all right everyone we'll be back with.

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