17 Burst results for "Betty Draper"
"betty draper" Discussed on The Guilty Feminist
"I'm a feminist, but my husband, Tom zelensky, wrote a book with his podcast partners called best pick that goes with his podcast. It's about the Oscars and about film. And the other night he had a little book launch downstairs in a waterstones, and when I got to the top of the stairs, the woman said, and could I have your name please? Because I need to take care of the list. And I said, my name's super France swine, but I am the wife of one of the authors. And she was like, oh, impressive. And I said, I know, I am the wife of one of the authors of her celebrated man. And I said, look, normally, he comes along and says, I'm Jeffrey's husband, or Deborah's producer, and I was loving being a wife. Like, there was no pressure on me. All I got to do was admire the man. Yeah. And just be like, my husband wrote this book. My husband, my husband, and I was really enjoying it, to be honest, I had like it was an hour and a half of being Betty Draper and it was just wonderful. You were being the First Lady of Oscar trivia literature. That's exactly what I want. And it was wonderful. I was so Jackie O and I wore quite floaty dress and I was there going, have you seen my husband's book? Signed by my husband in the corner..
"betty draper" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Nice guy. Yeah i look like living down here at the beach. Yeah people like do you. You see 'em like now never ever. I saw the guy who plays the stand up comedian and madman that tries to get after betty draper that don knocks out the after. I saw him walking around the other day. And i was like i never see but you'll always ask me that i live here my world. We live in two different countries your day to day in my dates pretty interesting. Probably not the best. Part of this podcast. We'll keep it moving. Frank was in a marvel movie and add the red carpet premiere and they brought ben his sons. David aurea no abandoned. There's actually pictures of ban on the red carpet with franken. His wife and rio like it's just continue systemise shit with the greatest ever things happening. Get it Best that guy aka the joey pants award this guy is one before. He's one for other movies. I still don't know this guy's name the guy who works in the high school who alerts Joe edgerton that the the school committee past wherever that guy's name is he was the right hand. Guy and dave for kevin kline. He was the dad and mad. Love with chris o'donnell and drew barrymore and he's just been in a bunch of stuff and i don't know what his name is. One of his biggest roles is veep will be. Yeah yeah that's right. He's the veep guy. Yeah i just was looking at him the other day. Classic joey pants. 'cause he's in everything i know him. I can name the seven. Thinks he's in. And i don't know what his name is. Do we need to look up his name or is this out. I don't think oh. Data and transformer. Craig hornbeck says I don't want know is them. I'd rather live. I'd rather live in darkness vincent. Hanna jimmy i gotta award for best. Overacting nolte douse it up. But i think it's totally justified. It's justified he tells it up at worked it worked. It worked this guys carrying around demons man demons. I feel like every nobody over acts except for the guy plays mad dog. That guy's really trying to work those smarmy bad guy even like in the second fight when they stared out. You know who i thought sucked in. This was johnny in china. This is it. it's he the play by play guy. no he's the host when they announced sparta there with the tapa. The tap out guys are in this contel. Let's get him because one of my best friends and so we'll give him. We'll give a word Judd nelson award for person. Who seems like they're in a different movie. Actually felt like everybody felt like there. In this war we came up with it after new jack city because judd nelson just in a different movie. The movie for my newspaper were rate concept. Thank you what movie you it. I love watching this way. It was chris riot. Yep jed nelson's just over here movies you do it. But i'm making an art over here. The waiters award grillo think he's eligible. Kurt angle is koba. And then don lemon. There's don lemon cameo to put him in. I think grillo is really good in this. And he's he's the winner for me unless you have anybody.
"betty draper" Discussed on Problematic Premium Feed
"To Ambush me maybe. The commentary scared her but they. I'm sure she doesn't read comments but the on twitter. She's active on twitter. And i saw what she was getting on twitter and she was getting reporter on in the comments. You know people said stuff about how It's possible for stories to take place during a given time period and for those characters to be unaffected by the time period. And i would say that. Actually it's fucking non stop and that even if she had a more ambient anxiety about soviets or whatever the only thing we really got was that that christian thing of like she'll be sponsored by the christians and she doesn't really agree with that and actually she likes soviet sponsorship and earnings sportsmanship and whatever And that's fine but it doesn't really give any perspective to what people cared about at the time and it you don't really need to harp on it for it to be present like even if you think about like someone like betty draper in madman having anxiety about nukes. She still a housewife. Who was basically completely taken care of and it doesn't really affect your otherwise but of course it affected everyone and this is supposed to be a drama. It's not supposed to be the marvelous. Mrs maisel but it basically is the marvelous. Mrs maisel plays chess. And i think it's funny when people say that it's like madmen. It kind of is like madmen but totally toothless. Which is what. Mrs maisel is. Mrs maisel is madman. Meets forrest gump right. But even for his gumbo lease with the jenny. Stuff had some kind of Stakes even you know like so for all the saccharin tweenies of forrest. Gump even that was willing to go somewhere which this it keeps walking into the precipice and then instead of a cliff is just like You know this cotton candy at the end. Is this very weird. It's like yeah. It's it's bizarre. And you know to go back to the pedophilia right. There was a lot of bathing to it right where they were kind of bathing. It and then it would just be very innocuous but it was like for example when she does the simultaneous at the school where the guy takes her. You have a bunch of those walk into this room and stares stare her down and it looks like you Is this some kind of weird. Like when she's going from board to board. I feel like there. there's a sexual undertone to it. You know she's always looking ordering all these boys and we'd also had the setup of her like you said looking at boys with clapping the erasers and stuff. That could have been something that they could have built on even without dialogue just like framing having the boys talk about her differently or whatever but then she just goes home each eats a bunch of bunch of candy and talks to the guy. About how like she basically ran through all those dudes and i understood that that was intentional. But at the same time like you're saying it was bred cramming something that never pays off. Even the words you use sexual now think it's not even accidental..
"betty draper" Discussed on Champagne Sharks
"To Ambush me maybe. The commentary scared her but they. I'm sure she doesn't read comments but the on twitter. She's active on twitter. And i saw what she was getting on twitter and she was getting reporter on in the comments. You know people said stuff about how It's possible for stories to take place during a given time period and for those characters to be unaffected by the time period. And i would say that. Actually it's fucking non stop and that even if she had a more ambient anxiety about soviets or whatever the only thing we really got was that that christian thing of like she'll be sponsored by the christians and she doesn't really agree with that and actually she likes soviet sponsorship and earnings sportsmanship and whatever And that's fine but it doesn't really give any perspective to what people cared about at the time and it you don't really need to harp on it for it to be present like even if you think about like someone like betty draper in madman having anxiety about nukes. She still a housewife. Who was basically completely taken care of and it doesn't really affect your otherwise but of course it affected everyone and this is supposed to be a drama. It's not supposed to be the marvelous. Mrs maisel but it basically is the marvelous. Mrs maisel plays chess. And i think it's funny when people say that it's like madmen. It kind of is like madmen but totally toothless. Which is what. Mrs maisel is. Mrs maisel is madman. Meets forrest gump right. But even for his gumbo with the jenny stuff had some kind of Stakes even you know like so for all the saccharin tweenies of forrest. Gump even that was willing to go somewhere which this it keeps walking into the precipice and then instead of a cliff is just like You know this cotton candy at the end. Is this very weird. It's like yeah. It's it's bizarre. And you know to go back to the pedophilia right. There was a lot of bathing to it right where they were kind of bathing. It and then it would just be very innocuous but it was like for example when she does the simultaneous at the school where the guy takes her. You have a bunch of boys. Walk into this room and stares stare her down and it looks like you Is this some kind of weird like when she's going from board to board. I feel like there. there's a sexual undertone to it. You know she's always looking ordering all these boys and we'd also had the setup of her like you said looking at boys with clapping the erasers and stuff. That could have been something that they could have built on even without dialogue just like framing having the boys talk about her differently or whatever but then she just goes home each eats a bunch of bunch of candy and talks to the guy. About how like she basically ran through all those dudes and i understood that that was intentional. But at the same time like you're saying it was bred cramming something that never pays off. Even the words you use sexual now think it's not even accidental. I think unconsciously because she ran through all those boys like like even the words ran through. Sounds like the best way to put what happened. They kind of make it seem like you know it. Almost something orgiastic about it in a weird way. But it's like sh- she dominated them you know and They kind of traffic in the elicit impulse while pretending to have a subverting impulse like actually feminist and empowering but really..
"betty draper" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Ask all kinds of stuff, we're gonna challenge they're going to say group follow if I've been any. What exactly did you play with the rest? You know? And Miller nailed it. It's It's the older one main way from SNL used to come on weekend update. Yes. And that was Dan Ackroyd. Back in the day talking about stuff around the house that the kids could play. I can't be average kid picks up a problem last anyone beech Street garbage cans, parking lots all over the place in the big city. We're just packaging. What the kids want bag. Oh, glass go. They pick up broken glass anywhere. What about this? We saw a lot of products in the bag. Oh, line by the glass with a bag of nails, bag of bunks by Vipers. Like a sulfuric acid bag of something. And he had that cheesy jacket on the mustache. Sunglasses. Yeah, they could play with anything bad can karma once back in the day we played kick the can. That was entertainment. Like we joked in cross talk last hour. We've tooken old Coke. Can you put it outside? You went you played kick the can with your friends. That's how you entertain. I just thought of it. Did you ever watch mad men? No, I get it you every time I thought that was the case, because I thought I would long everybody says I'd love it to. There's this Yew wood. There's a scene in one of the I think it might've been the first season. Betty Draper on Madman. Madman takes place throughout the late fifties sixties, and that's Jon Hamm's wife, Betty Draper. He's don Draper. That's a very 19 fifties name. Daddy. I'm telling you, I still can't believe you haven't watched one of my favorite shows of all time. Betty Draper, her kids now she's you know, a 50 sixties housewife. She's smoking a cigarette, and the kids come running through the house and Betty Draper yells at her daughter. Who has a plastic bag. On her head, and it's a plastic bag from like her dry cleaning. And so Betty Draper yells at her daughter, and she goes. What are you doing? You better not have taken that from my closet. Go put that back on my clothes. She's mad, not because she has a plastic bag around her head, but because she took it from her dry cleaning. That's great fifties and sixties lift isn't sixties baby Rusty nail 3123323776 new running back on the market and the bears be interested. We'll discuss that next. And then JD and 15. Are they getting close to announcing a starting quarterback and Alice, we're going to find out Listeningto.
"betty draper" Discussed on Michigan Policast
"To switch the water supply and against the Federal Environmental Protection Agency for its part covering up the lead contamination, and as you heard, it will probably end up costing us over a billion dollars. Donald. Trump's latest racist appeal is aimed at what may be the decisive. In this election suburban women but he talks of suburban housewives seemingly harkening back to the days of Madman's betty draper or the beavers June cleaver or Wilma flintstone fictional white women who greeted their husbands at the door with an apron where he pearls and holding Martini for their man Arnold Weidenfeld this as a director of State University's Institute of Public Policy and Social Research. He says those images of suburban women are decades out of date Walter. There's just no question today suburbs no longer look at all like the lily white places that the president jurors may think they are from the nineteen fifties and the nineteen sixties. There are several trends that have been taking place especially over the last decade that have been noted by demographers such as William Fry Brookings, and Richard Florida whose name might sound familiar to some of your listeners who now writes for Bloomberg City Lab. You know the fact of the matter is, is that over the last decade or more? wanted a first trends that had impacted suburban growth, his immigration. Immigration as been noted, is increasingly suburban ads of the last census in twenty ten. More than half half of all immigrants resided in the suburbs that trend of immigrants moving to the suburbs for schools quite frankly is continuing the second trend now that we've seen is is quite honestly is been going on for longer than a decade. And that is the racial and ethnic transformation of of the suburbs. So when you looked at the statistics between nine, hundred, seventy and two thousand, the share of African. Americans for instance, living in suburban Atlanta increase from seven percent to seventy eight percent. in the suburbs of Washington. DC It rose twenty five, percent eighty, two percent. And these trends have continued to accelerate across the country not only is it the result of Gentrification, as as we've come? Understand that another words lower income African. Americans being pushed out. Of those parts of cities that are being redeveloped and become too expensive but you know there is a black middle class and black middle class has chosen to move to more upscale suburbs 'em when we think of Michigan. We have an example You know that I liked point to, and that is the city of Southfield after the riots in Detroit over the next couple of decades, it wasn't just whites fled the city was middle class blacks and. One of the places they to Southfield and when you look at the demographic shift. In the city, of Southfield, over the last few decades you you know that you might remember maxine Berman former legislator maxine Berman represented Southfield for many many years a white Jewish female. Wants maxine left. We have seen nothing but African Americans represent southfield. We have an African American congresswoman from Southfield in the Michigan delegation so. Here in our own state we certainly seeing that occurring and what we've got is a trend that summer calling mop melting pot suburbs. With momentum minorities now constitute thirty five percent or more of the population as a matter of fact, between two thousand and twenty change been noted that whites comprise less than ten percent of the growth of the suburban population while minorities constituted for greater the net. So. Would you say that the the shift in voting patterns that we saw during the two thousand eighteen election which much democratic in the suburbs is not an anomaly but rather a ongoing trend. Well, that's hard to say because the president actually won the suburbs by four percentage points in two thousand, sixteen election. I think would points to the walt is the political power of the suburbs and you know the fact of the matter is, is that while on the one hand I've talked talked about the changing demographics in many of the suburbs and how they no longer look much like the June cleaver leave it to beaver suburbs that many folks of our generation boomers in particular or even older Americans might might have in mind. Still. There is the fact that on the other side of the Coin Tan of the PRICIEST ZIP codes in America are all in the suburbs and even when we think of our own suburbs here in Michigan no some of the priciest Zip codes reside in Oakland County in this state and the like. So so you've got an interesting picture. Of, the suburbs are really a greater reflection of the country as a whole in many respects and the growing inequality income inequality gap between rich and poor. So if nothing else I, think the suburbs have increased in political power over the course of time and it'll be interesting to see what happens in this upcoming election certain. Two thousand eighteen the strength of the suburbs in in creating a democratic congress all those that came out vote will have to see if that happens again. Part of the transformation of the suburbs by senses it was because it was a lower cost of living than in the cities people could get more for their money that obviously a shifting now a home in Bloomfield hills, it's gonNa cost you a lot more than a home in downtown. Detroit is this likely to be sort of like a juggling act going back and forth and back and forth in part because of the cost of living. I think cost of living has Is One factor schools are another factor. Is it's multidimensional. You know Certainly. We've got suburbs that are thriving and successful in the fastest growing most affluence, and then there are others that are facing growing poverty and and mounting economic issues, and in some cases, even economic decline those suburbs of, for instance that have been able to adapt twenty-first-century industries and technologies and find places where the jobs are those suburbs that have medical industry, those suburbs that even have university. So eds and meds again continues to play an important role in the growth of suburbs. So I think tangling back and forth isn't a bad analysis but I think we have to remember that much like growth and decline anywhere. It's never anyone thing. What about the significance of the growth of the Internet having broadband available especially in the suburbs where every suburbs got really good Internet for certainly for white collar workers that can make a difference in were they locate A can but I would remind your audience that for as much as we like to think there is good broadband access and connectivity in suburbs or in denser communities I've been involved in broadband. Since with Municipal League and had to go through the rewrite of the Michigan Telecom Act back in two, thousand, six, it was and it's just not the case there are pockets whether it's here in the city of Lansing, or if we want to consider a an area such as a bath township just north of east, Lansing which has become a lot denser their pockets, many pockets even in this region that have poor Internet connection It really is a question of of location location location and you've got to be careful because you might be moving into a new subdivision in a suburban area and just like you're checking on the schools and everything else you better check on your broadband connection. or wonderful.
"betty draper" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Right, Right. Right. Ask your dad about that one. That one about Milton Berle. Brian know the reason it was a talented Well, he was He was like, Yeah, he was the Tommy Lee. That generation and the story was that there was a Hollywood Hills party and some guy is in his cups. And he called amounts that I got your molten You can't You can't hang with me. Milton said. Let's go. They went into the bedroom. Miss Laurie's. They came out kind of zipping up their pants and died right and the guy yells across through. And how much did you show up? Milty and Milton yells out. Just enoughto win, Right, right. You could paraphrase that you could update the whole skit Murphy and you could say like in a Tommy Lee generation. That's our generation. Hey, Tommy Lee, How much did you show him? The win. He goes Well, just enough for me to drive this boat. That's how much Hollywood. If you do pass before me in the Ralph a bit that I'm going to write for you. I say one of his fondest riffs was Tommy Lee and the vote. I'm sorry. It's an image. I can't get out of my head. It's a civilized calling that grateful Dead fan radio host and Tommy Lee Bo. Terrific, dude. Appreciator Tommy Lee Respect er I only wish like somehow some way it worked into the Harding park cause you know they were showing the lake for said Yes. Video going. You know the boat. Some lake driven Tommy Lee. You don't Ah, Tony lead drives, but I've got to tell you to like, I can't even drive a boat with both my hands. Tommy Lee can do it with no hands. Okay, all right. We've got to get going, but you've got to go check out right, moving on. Shout out to Ah Motley Crue and Tommy Lee Guy's number five from the MBA bubble now the Sacramento Kings and Zion's New Orleans pelicans. They've both been eliminated from playoff contention. Meanwhile, to Damian Lillard is going off to do you want to get in that number eight C badly on the proof of that is he dropped 51 yesterday to keep Portland's hope alive for that eight spot as they beat the Sixers. Maurin BA news here, the Memphis Grizzlies Lost in Toronto on Sunday. So now there is a guarantee of an 89 playoff game on August 15th. That'll be fun. That would be fun to watch Also spurs, sons and the Blazers as I mentioned, they're all going for that number nine spot, but I got to tell you Lillard dropping 50 wanted since the bubble has started the competition in the bubble. He's been one of the guys just jumping off the screen, and I need some help from you guys here. Hopes, Polly. First of all I have to confess being in the state of Jefferson and being tied up with the gulf. This we as yes, my n ba bubble knowledge. I'm coming on 50,000 watts right in front of everybody. They're like, Oh, I'm going to tune in to listen to the sports expert to come clean on you. My n ba bubble knowledge right now is not what it should be well, and I know I got Steph Curry out here asking more common questions Do that's how far I am from the MBA bubble. All right, you know, but are you guys up to speed? Are you guys check because I my impression is that it's going well, it is like no balls. Pretty good. Yes, and there's some good competition going on. Some guy's putting on a good performances on We even had some incredible smack talk with Damian Lillard, Paul George and Patrick Beverly Beverly over the weekend. I was out here, taunting him from the bench Do that's why I love Beverly Man. I love that. So so is it's going pretty well, You know what I got to tell you more. If I have been checking in pretty regularly Now I don't sit down. Be honest. I don't sit down and go 4/4 of of any game. Not yet, Anyway. I probably will in the playoffs start, but I've been getting good enough chunks of a lot of different games and a lot of different teams and I will back that up. Caliber ball is pretty sharp, like I thought it might be a little sloppy. Some guys look like they don't have their legs under him yet, But there's enough good basketball, if not great basketball, like Daimler's performance yesterday, that's certainly were turning into a tuning into so, Yeah, so even are you bothering to wager on the stuff? Question? I have a little bit, but I had some success last weekend and this weekend didn't do so great. But there's some signal did because they're so expensive upsets. I know the next guy's off the The Sacramento Kings, the other like the Phoenix Suns, a story that week during the mixed up so there are still four teams. Five teams fight it out for the eighth seed in the West, I think currently hold it and then the Blazers. You guys, the Spurs and the sons are all keeping it on the MBA. Tipsy Betty Draper coming after Kawai on social Media can be their January Jones with the call me, Kawai. Let's do a studio man. Yes. Wow, There was not one episode of Mad Men do when she got pissed a trade. God she copes prevent. Remember revenge hook up. She went in there with one thing on our mind. Yeah, Paul, I think you should leave with like a sailor or something. He was a Navy guy. So maybe it wasn't his Navy whites Now I got I got Betty going home with this guy, and she was all dolled up in like a red dress and necklace. She did it up big to go at all. You know, I mean, he wasn't He wasn't hungry. You know?.
"betty draper" Discussed on Fantasy Theatre
"It's on our list of core values. Of course we agree. Dispenser has sportsmanship when we play <hes> that dumb dumb but that's not even worth the bleep so embarrassed okay. Do you have resumed. Suai is Spencer Sportsmanship. Tell me about you spencer. Everyone hates to lose the Spencer. He does win a lot but I have never once. I think this has been sports. He's sportsman spy. You don't feel he gets a little intense. Well Yeah I mean I get intense is. I think it's best sportsman. I think this is supposed to be a fun game. I'm and we're supposed to just have fun and get upset. I never get upset. Of course. I'm a little slower than everybody in that game. If this was something you could actually compete at like I don't know chugging Coke Zero sum lost that that might be upsetting. You throw your zero on the ground. I mean finished it. You'd be so upset. I won't use pension this. He's very good at that spite bone Reseda so I get his get his his his intensity intensity win that because if I was that good I'd be intense to me and Joe Joe's a little bit better than me. Obviously breakdown or spike ball best attributes worse attribute ooh minus patients because now we don't need to breath nothing. Goodness obvious core value three thousand five hundred sixty eight. We don't break things down so your your value contacted. Just be a good sport. Yeah Lord like uragans search passer. I mean Joe's kind of same -spense. She's been around me for a long time. It depends on how many Zeros you've thrown back so normally I'm good without the coke zero store July angry after look Zeros. Maybe a little it was sport short like a reconsideration poker sport or poker. You've never been that bad. You're bad winter in your kneedler so I just poke o winning. I don't even know worsely pocket Isis ause this you lose three fancy league games and then quit the whole season Spencer. Would you like did you tell him what happened. After that. He was our league. He should know you went winless. He was Oh and fifteen went winless but finished not last sure he finished WanNa know because everyone in the loser's bracket quit including the people that he lost law students who previously costs you don't give up keep playing and then look it turned into store when I win. One in fifteen success lives Owen Owen fourteen regular season I believe Steve Lost my first round game in the constellation bracket and know what I've been quit. I kept freaking fighting and guess what one it's an inspiration. It's almost live firing and Steve gleason who got last night lead by the way I don't remember his name Johnny Fair One Joe Bell C._v._C. This Week Joe. I have a vice call all right well. We're not to that point but Brazilian okay come Comeback Joe. What Bush did you get in that Lee no it is there you go? I didn't make the playoffs again but he has his own fantasy football podcast so I have become to me they asked for vice this letters picture of Michael Dobbs Address Register my baby. I gotTa C._V._C.. Baby core value nine hundred eighty nine here we go. I'm talking about boredom is what I'm going. Go to make contact on d ever get bored you used to before I turned thirty. I will get bored sometimes after thirty so hey who knows how long this might last now lift every day is a gift. I really don't get bored as much boredom young. That's true so here's my thing about boredom like I used to think that only I used to watch madman all the time and betty draper when the characters on there would always say only boring people get bored but that's not really true. I think when I find myself board it's usually because I am forced to do something I don't want to do and I can't engage with that thing. That's when boredom comes out for me so if I had my choice I just wouldn't engage in those activities that make me feel that way that don't allow me to be engaged but there's some scientific research out there that says boredom dome is really the spark of all creativity. You almost have to get to that place of boredom where you're not distracted. You're not engaged with anything else before you can actually create something very interesting. Testing should look that up I can in by I've also heard that your creative process will trigger triggers a lot of times like if you're a morning person it will trigger night if you're at like if you're personally gets lots of done at near nighttime than and sometimes right when you wake up you'll have your most creative thoughts because it's not when your mind is engaging in task completion which you can't have <hes> to have creative expression of thoughts that just come to absolute which has happened to me like I'm terrible the mooring hey waking up a lot of times I wake up. I'll be driving to work and I'll think of something created them but you know when I most engaged at night I can do a lot of stuff I can't I don't really ever think of that anything that creative while got a question for Y'all allies so boredom so outside of your wife and families what site show the most like that keeps you from being bored what would what would if you just send it to house on a week night other than just a family. What would what make laugh not so born? You're GonNa hate this answer but we both play a lot of smash brothers right now. So that takes up some brain power I think about I think about this podcast a lot honestly and some free time <hes> I think about exercising a lot exercising's. Sightings a a big thing for me <hes> what I'm going to eat the next day and it's not like a Olma Gosh. I hope I get the stake tomorrow. It's a what do I need to eat at the right time for the best performance so my mind's on that a lot I enjoy that type of thing. Get an answer to a bill. Yeah I mean I I like play play a lot of video games and then I'll I like when I'm doing absolutely nothing and my mind's clear. I think that's why I enjoyed away doing the most. I'm never bored. Then I just I can just lay outside in the grass and for ours and you literally think about nothing none I try. I try to think of nothing yeah. I will say that as meditation type stuff. I like that's healthy. He's The authority a few weeks ago a few weeks ago. Coke zero actually probably a few months ago the zero board that makes them the authority the few months ago. I talked about how we're GONNA do a short story on this bike. Remember that Joe Yeah. I remember that so I do. I didn't have it written. I didn't have it written at that time. Planned on writing it was the greatest moment when we were walking to the car and I'll say this really good Spenc- you have a short story and say hey Joe. I gotTa tell you I don't I don't say wh-what just says that convincing. I was on the but the but I was doing an activity to specs weekend that I didn't want to do didn't want to be at it. I had an hour of this activity. I don't want to be at in that time. I was able to kind of crack the story in my head I have like all the bullet points ready. Just got flesh it out. Let's GonNa come and that came from boredom. Innovation came from me being born in that moment 'cause I had no choice but to be creative boo. Does someone else was going to say something so joe. Bell looked like he had a point. He's like I don't want to talk. Maybe that's why I've always had my best comments on the fancy theatre group chat group check excuse. You have nothing to lose on that yet but I did before. No everyone knew me now. I'm out completely. I never post another thing hang on there. No I saw Zack's face. It was over the Mystique it into vice for listeners all of your friends don't ever meet them. Enjoy it really enjoy it so.
"betty draper" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Twenty WGN. We're live in the AllState skyline studio here until five AM. It's Monday that means my dad's gonna call Intel joke because it's jokey jokey jokey time we've been talking about the worst hosts in SNL history. And they they were ranked here from bad to the worst. We've got Charles Barclay George Steinbrenner Frank Zappa Nancy Kerrigan Rudy Giuliani, L Sharpton, Justin Bieber, Lindsay, Lohan, Lance Armstrong, Dion Sanders, MC hammer, so far and then Donald Trump. Now, we continue on with Michael Phelps? Who hosted September thirteenth two thousand eight Michael Phelps head as much charisma and cameras a dead fish as performances were uncomfortable to watch as he struggled to read cue cards throughout the night. Meaning he wasn't even remotely emoting or presenting the material as written think of the poor readers in middle school who bogged down in Cl or in class reading material and killed the narrative as they fumbled through their lines. It was only slightly better than that. Adrian brodie. May tend to thousand three Adrian Brodie was riding high off his Oscar win and onstage sexual assault of Holly berry when he forced her to kiss him. And and he brought all that arrogance to SNL Brody clearly thought he was not only having a big career moment. But then he had arrived and would be Hollywood's biggest star for years to come with painfully unfunny on that night. And he sealed his fate with an unapproved tone-deaf introduction of musical guest. Sean Paul complete with dreadlocks and bad Jamaican accent. He thought he could do no wrong. But it turned out. He couldn't do right? And he's been banned from SNL for life. Really? Because of that. You don't first of all you don't do something. That's not approved. Oh, yeah. No by if learn doesn't approve it. You don't do it. Well, isn't that why Elvis Costello got banned for life because of radio radio? Yep. That's that's part of that article that I'm going to be talking about about the bad behavior. But yeah, that was painful the whole dreadlocks thing. I don't even you know. And it went on and on and on all you. You know, you're supposed to say is, ladies and gentlemen, Sean, Paul or for the second musical performance. You say, ladies and gentlemen, once again, Sean Paul he went on for like minutes with this terrible Jamaican accent? And just went on and on and you because you know, Lorne Michaels watches the show from the side, he's got a monitor and he watches the show like right from the side of the stage. And you know, he's just sitting there looking at the monitor shaking his said like this guy's never gonna come back guys. Never gonna come back and host the show yet. That's how you get relegated to predator sequels. Yeah. Although you know, what I didn't think that was too bad. I like it. Yeah. But he's doing a Christian bale impression that really swings for the fences. Here's one man. This is brutal Stephen say gall, he hosted in April of nineteen ninety one. Oh, good. Lord. Steven Seagal was a pretty one trick pony and his movies. He could kick and punch people in grou- through squinted eyes. That's about all he has an action star, and he didn't have much more to offer sketch comedy he had less. In fact, Seagal didn't even have a funny bone in his body, but he had plenty of competence, and arrogance leading to a performance that was both putting painfully unfunny that was one of the most brutal episodes I've ever seen and been behind the scene stories. We'll get to that too. Because he's mentioned in the article about, you know, behind the scenes how horrible it was to work with the guy probably trying to throat punch, everyone even imagine what it would have been like to work with that guy was under siege. Ninety two. Okay. Yeah. So ninety under siege. I remember specifically when it was it was it was the fall of nineteen Ninety-two because I saw the movie with Garib you see sitting next to me. So that's I'll never forget that. Because. Yeah. Okay. Trivia, the whole the whole time it was like having it was like having DVD commentary, right? It makes me Tommy Lee Jones tonight, we improvise this whole thing. It's what I'm hearing. While I'm watching the movie. This was brutal. Perez Hilton she hosted in February of two thousand five. Paris Hilton was vapid and empty headed on the simple life, and according to the cast of SNL, she was proud of her stupidity. It translated into a terrible hosting gig. As Hilton couldn't be bothered to learn any of her lines. And really a kid Mayes. The stereotype of a no talent socialite looking for cash in a paycheck. Yeah. That was that was brutal. I know her little bit with Jimmy Fallon on the weekend update made it onto his best of DVD volume. Yeah. Well, I mean, they really know why I thought it was kind of funny. Yeah. You know? Andrew dice. Clay may have nineteen ninety was the biggest comedian in the world because he told dirty nursery rhymes and said shockingly offensive things a cartoon character real person the dice man didn't have much death to depth to his craft stage persona and he had nothing fresh to offer on SNL. In fact, every sketch was the variation of his dice persona because he was just too cool to offer anything else it was painfully unfunny then. And even if agent even worse, I got to say something. First of all there were boycotts. There were two boycotts. Sh- NATO Connor was supposed to be the musical guest. She boycotted and Nora done cast member boycotted because of because of because of I've never really understood the appeal of dice. Yeah. Oh, I used to think he was hilarious that I I'll tell you that I that I h b o special with Larry use a rockstar. I mean, yeah. Is doing stadium comedy. Yeah. Scales? Never been before. I will tell you this. There was an absolutely hull Larrea sketch in that episode. It wasn't a very strong episode. It was kind of funny, and he was doing his dice thing. But they did a raging bull him and John Lovett's. Did a raging bull thing where he was. He was deniro and love it was was patchy. It was all about go ahead. Hit me hit me. You know? The whole punch me punch me the whole scene in raging bull. If variation on that where it's like he wants him to pick up a refrigerator or smash them over the head with it and stuff. It was hilarious and his deniro is very is. Actually, his deniro was very funny. But I remember that raging bull sketch. I still remember to this day. I thought it was hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. All right, number two on the list here of the worst episodes or the worst host ever. I would put as number one. January Jones she was horrible. And that she was in. It was November of two thousand nine when she hosted is truly one of the worst hosting performances. I've ever seen January Jones look both board and confused throughout her bland lined deliveries. She was every bit Betty Draper of madmen, and she simply didn't have time for this or memorizing her lines or even realizing that it was a live show. She asked which camera at one point true. This is where we learned that Betty is maybe less of a performance than we realize January had nothing else to offer botching every sketch. He was in. It was brutal. But they save a different person for number one of for being the worst. And I totally disagree. I completely and absolutely disagree with this this choice for the worst SNL host of all time. Totally disagree. And we'll get to that. After the news, which is coming up after this today bullies aren't just in the hallways at school or on the playground. 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"betty draper" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Spiders, thing baby. This is James is coming up, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't this with their first video got them a lot of attention. They made a video was like a big deal. There's some of long dude metallic old jam. They're kind of like a metal jam ban. A lot of us have very long jams in them. We talk about players all of them talk about Huey Lewis is near hearing. He sing and things like the power of love. How do those guys not have what it's all about protection? I mean, if you wear plugs, you should be fine. What a lot of guys didn't. And don't. And then you want to pay the price in the long run. Yes. Staying in front of a wall vamps like that? It's not not good for you. A out to Daryl Alexander of Martinez, California. Nice town Martinez. Yeah. Underrated martinez. He heard the sounder. Yeah. To be one of our qualifiers for the drawing for the Metallica and San Francisco seventy chase center opening Friday September sixth and he joins our winner from yesterday. Kevin Rollins Cameron Tareq that's two down two to go. Tomorrow spider will play the sounder again sometime between six and ten you'll call four one five eight nine six can arts, Nicole answer caller, number nine. And then we'll do it again Friday in that will give us four names and then Friday around nine forty five we will pull the win. Do you think Joe label where like a leather tuxedo at the gig? Yes. Because body Joel I think you're right. The more. I think about this Joe lake of first of all has to be present. Announce that and then on top everything bitchy intros the band. Good evening. Take your seats. Welcome. You know, what I mean like go to imagine? He's going to intro the band like you said, some very good friends of yours and mine. All right. We do this every year. There's a auto show a car show out of the elevator county fairgrounds. Betcha overnight Dave will be the good guys giant car show. We talked to Betsy bender for just a second. All she just dropped back to the cache creek, Texas Draper's first wife's name wasn't Betsy Betty, Betty, Betty, Draper, January Jones. Yeah. So bad. When Betty got sick. She put on weight and wouldn't get undressed in front of him to remember that she went to Weight Watchers totally forgot about soon in that overcoat and how she was. Yeah. She got out of the bass she told me to turn around. She's some of those people. Yeah. That's about her revenge on him when she went into the bar and grab that sale. She goes to complete this sailor was like, whoa. Today's my lucky day. Great. He went from having a a whiskey a Gimblett at the bar to go into the phone booth is lucky day right place at the right time has been may okay with Betsy vet. Yeah. There's a car show it's out at the Alameda County fairgrounds, and it is a week from Saturday. So it Saturday and Sunday March thirty thirty one it's the good guys thirty seventh all Americans, so Betsy we have you on every year. You guys are back again. Good morning. Welcome back to the Murph and MAC show, and you get a good morning. Morning. You get to tell us about. Yeah. You get to tell us all about it. What's going on? What's new is our kickoff event to our bay area series? We have forces in Pleasanton, I talked to you guys ally. We always appreciate it. And this one is thirty seven years old. It's the oldest event on our good guys schedule in two thousand nineteen and it's a gathering of about three thousand American made or powered vehicles. So you can run the gamut. If you've got thirty two four bring it out if you've got a twenty eight teen dodge bring it out, and so it's a really cool gathering. It's got a focus of all things customs. So we've got the custom cars in the main building with the customer of the year competition, there's a whole building of low riders and the low rider display was custom motorcycles. So a lot of really cool. Features in this show for sure. Yeah. Definitely sounds cool. It is out of the county fairgrounds March thirty thirty one like some good old fashioned American muscle. You can get your tickets, by the way at good. Dash guys dot com. Right or or on onsite all three days says all three days is three days. No, it's. Type. Days where there Saturday Sunday thirtieth and thirty first we'll be there. Eight to five on that Saturday eight to four on Sunday. And if people are coming out, and they want to see the awards ceremony that's around three thirty or so on Sunday afternoons, a really cool thing to see those cars, and by the way, kids, welcome six hundred free and up to age twelve hundred ten bucks, and then twenty five bucks. I am definitely intrigued before we let you go back to you about this indoor low rider what's going on there. Super cool. So the guys from dead end magazine, which is really fun. Low rider publication are the ones who help us put this thing together, and they work so many hours to kind of get the coolest low riders from the whole bay area. And so it's a really fun gathering. They're just starting to send me some pictures. We're going to be promoting on our website and e blast. So people are here. Not check out this picture. They're really fun. Okay. That'll be cool indoor low rider, we got nitro thunder fest dragster exhibition nitro in the air motorcycles. And I'm all about I like a good, corvette. Betsy can I get one out there? Yeah. You can for sure there's a lot of good corvettes. Yeah. So that's again a week from Saturday and Sunday at the Alameda County fairgrounds. It's the goodguys giant car show. It's always a good time. Everybody enjoys it. Good. Dash guys dot com. Should be great weather. Good. Dash guys dot com or on site the thirtieth and the thirty first Alameda County fairgrounds. Thanks betsy. Thank you guys. Have a great one YouTube. Thanks, murph. I didn't know you. Corvette so much. You should take a walk up the hill. And and go check out bobby's corvette Blackie Blackie famously like when he like around that same time. I think what he bought the house up in Malcolm he bought him. So I'm not a car guy. But he bought like one of those kick ass old convert was calling a Stingray, corvette. Or would ask? Remember, he had one to one that he pulled out of the so you ever see a vet coming down the hill at high speed with a guy with the gray hair in the wind. Okay, easily be my main man, Bobby. We're let me tell you a car. Are you a gearhead not really, oh, I appreciate nice cars in the classics and everything, but I'm just like your girl? Your dad lives on a ranch with the mutton chops. And he's a cop. I figured he might have some cards. Big trucks. Exactly, right. All right. So I appreciate nice cars and classics. August ninth have been one of those and Reno have you ever been? I haven't been too hot August night. Honestly, the classic cars. And then they have like. Car. Yeah. I only know the Neil diamond tune hot August night. I don't even know. I can't even go that far fighter. You with me on that? At least there wasn't an album. It was one of the two hot August nights. My dad would actually know that better than me. He's diamond guys like the biggest Neil diamond fan. As pizzas would call them, the Jewish Elvis. Sure, he's having some health problems of his own to kneel. I'm be shocked. If you didn't hear about this. I'm sad to hear that. Yeah. Yeah. His touring life is about to come to a close. He's one of the real now, he's got like some serious health challenges. Yeah. Hey, knock on wood for my man. Neil diamond. Anyway. Yeah. As far, I don't know. I've always had a thing for corvettes, man. And then when Sam mayday Malone, drove a corvette, I always thought that was about one do well Bonnie's. You'll look at me look at me. Not the window. The window totally hair coming in you, see, how do I dress? How do I act? How do I look like a corvette guy? You can't have one for look like. The year, you know, safest and most secure car going to shout out one of our childhood friends. Mark hamill. Lotta people forget after Star Wars. Murphy went out needed corvette summer. He did. Okay. Did corvette summer man up to Star Wars. Classic. Just a quick check of the cache creek text line here a nine one six eight Murph Cameron Cameron park John here. Let me know if my neighbor Cameron park. No, I'm available to go to the symphony if he wins. So the Cameron park mafia standing up listen guys won six out there ninety buses. I want lake in armbands with nails sticking out of wearing a leather cod piece in an armless Jean jacket with metal patches of Saxon. Iron maiden anthrax and s o d store would Murph, of course, that'd be stormtroopers a death. Yeah. I did Peter knows.
"betty draper" Discussed on AI Today Podcast: Artificial Intelligence Insights, Experts, and Opinion
"That's like literally down the street. That's a place that really loved to go or they'll even deliver it because they know that you don't normally leave on Saturday mornings, and you feel like you said French toast, or I feel like an iceberg coffee, but it's cold, and I don't wanna go outside. So it's like the system has some sort of tapped into your brain and figured out. Exactly what you want at this exact moment and figured out the exact way to communicate with you. That's the dream of hyper personalization in advertising, and it's kind of like, duh. Of course, that's their dream. But that dream has been nearly impossible for a long time in the past advertisers promoted, their products and services, really broadly and had a really wide reach and target audiences. They relied on print dad's TV commercials. Build boards, or you know, end caps and displays at stores to get their messages out and promote their products. The reason this was done is because it was the best way that they could do it at the time. And if you segment your audience in general ways that was how you had to do it. It was impossible to create any sort of highly personalized ad or promotion that way. So I think about this as madman. You know, if you go back to the show, it was based on the nineteen sixties the way that they marketed and advertised targeted customers, then is so different than how we do it. Now. I remember there was one episode where Betty Draper had gone into the grocery store and Don had created I guess this end cap display, and it was you know, beers from around the world. And so it worked on her. But it was targeted towards a housewife who maybe in the nineteen sixties where the people that were going into the grocery stores, and you know, that was a great way to capture them. But now today there's a many people that go into grocery stores, and it's just not ineffective. Highly targeted way to market anymore. So after the nineteen sixties with that we've come a long way the internet's come about mobile technologies have been real game changers. Combined with the enormous enormous quantities that we have of big, data advertisers. Now have a real way to not only target their customers, but get increasingly personal and timely information about what those customers are doing through the combination of big data and AI powered predictive, analytics advertisers are.
"betty draper" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"The listener support. But what exactly does that mean this zillionaires? I'm a reporter in the newsroom to me listener support is about reliability. I meet people all the time who say oh my God. WNYC? I love WNYC, and I rely on you, and it's really nice to be able to say back to them. We rely on you show your support. Go to WNYC dot org and click on donate. Listening album WNYC. I'm Alison Stewart we're talking with Matt Zoller sites and Alan seven about their book the sopranos sessions because the sopranos debuted in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine twenty years ago. Guys, this show James Gandolfini is the show. Yeah. You really is. Really really is. I mean tremendous cast. We'll talk about some of the other members of the cast. But how did he come to this part? Well, he well, he addition he read for it. And he was he was a character actor heavily employed character actor at that time, but you know, because of his physical type he was often cast as hitmen, and you know, henchmen, and bumbling assistance and people like that. And sometimes you got a nice guy part like he was Gena Davis boyfriend, and Angie, and you got to see the sweet kind of sexy side of the guy, but he never had a role like this until he read for it. And we have a anecdotes in the book about that process. But chase talks about how he originally thought about all. All these different people as Tony including Steve van Zandt who ended up playing Silvio, and if he had cast him he said, the show would have been more of like as he put it a live action. Simpson's like it would been a much different. But he said that after he read James Gandolfini for the part. He started to see a different vision of the show, which is eventually what it became. And I think that's a very high compliment to an actor that based on reading for a part the person who created the show says, oh, I see other possibilities here. Maybe we should do this the book also create has just heartbreaking, but lovely eulogies James Gandolfini. Yeah. That was that was tough. You know, just for him to be taken away from you know, like that because and that was the both the best and worst part of rewatching the show for the book was we got to watch Gandolfini. But every time we did we were reminded of all the performances we were never going to get from him. But it's weird to say like I feel like I underrated Jim until I went back to rewatch at this time. I always knew this was one of the great performances of all time. I don't think I quite understood that it was great performance of all time like there's no TV drama acting mount Rushmore. There's just his face up on the mountain. Yeah. That's true. And he was also just he was very genuine real guy. Like, he wasn't like a Hollywood type at all. He he fought what the HBO publicist during the you know before the premiere of season one that he didn't want to take limo to the premier because he thought his friends would see it. And thank you had gone Hollywood. He wanted to arrive in a yellow cab. That's sort of person. He was he won a Critics Award after the first season and at Christmas. He mailed us. All thank us with his home address handwritten on the back of the envelope. Yeah. And he would do things like, you know, he would pay for a sushi chef to come in on Fridays when they got their last shot and make sushi for the cast and crew and he pay for it out of his own pocket. He was constantly donating money to charities David. Jason is eulogy for Jim. He talked about how he would when he drove he had a piece of he had a pad and a pen with him on the passenger seat whenever he drove because he would listen to the radio, and if you've ever heard of a charitable cause he would wanna poll he would pull over and write down the name of it. And then call. Call. Can you please make a donation? Well, reasons, I think he was so perfect for the role is because you said you said he was charming, and, you know, even if you're an actor that charisma comes through some other part right that shar and that warmth and served that sexiness. But then how brutal Tony was never let you forget. Tony was a killer. No they did. They never let you forget that. Which is why college was important in why HBO fought with David chase about it. They said if you haven't killed this guy, the audience will never forgive him. And shea said if he doesn't kill the guy the audience will never forgive that. They'll believe that he's phony. So they had to sort of carry through it, and they kept pushing that and pushing that over the course of the series and his behavior got worse and worse, and yet there were still some people who couldn't quit him because he was just that charismatic, and they just saw something of themselves in him or something of someone. They knew in him. And so there were Tony defenders till the end Christopher defenders to the paulie walnuts. Defenders till the end. Chase nuts shit. Yeah. Chase kept. Escalating he kept escalating ugliness. You know? Like you can see in the in the back half of season one the characters become more openly racist and in season two that continues and in season three we see them being like more openly misogynist, and there's a whole episode. That's basically about how part of the mafia's businesses the sex trade. But no matter what they did. There were certain people in the audience who still liked them and thought they were cool and fun and people that you want to emulate, and and chase said in the interview that we did you know that he got very frustrated by that, and and and towards the end people were saying, wow, this show is so ugly. These people are so mean, they're such failures as human beings. Why did I ever watch this show? And it's like, well finally we've gotten to the place where I wanted to be at obviously we're supposed to see ourselves in them. And that makes it complicated and interesting for us that attraction repulsion, which again is what Melfi had, you know, being kind of a viewer surrogate, but we're not supposed to we're not supposed. To root for them. But Ross are not supposed to condemn them, and that ambivalent places where the show resides, and that's that's also exemplified and things like the plot developments that are never resolved. Because the show is decided that they're not important like whatever happened to the Russian or the ending. You know, what happened in the end to just you know, the way that certain plots would build to anti-climax that was the for the anti-climax as climax was a big part of the show like the one that Allen really grew to love, and you didn't like it. The first time was Furio season. Four Carmelo's flirting with Furio and I spend the whole season ponytail back in two thousand two going Carmelo sleep with Furio when is that can happen and house Tony gonna react when he finds it. And it's Tony gonna fight Furio and could Furio actually beat Tony and could Furio kill Tony. What is your become then and getting very excited and nothing happens? Nothing at all happens. He leaves. He has an opportunity to kill anybody. He doesn't have the nerve. And he just leaves. Yeah. And so two I was exasperated by it. But because. Came back this time. And I knew what was coming. I could focus more just on like what that story was telling us about the interior life of Carmelo soprano and how she's so frustrated and so angry about the state of our own life that she's willing to kick Tony out of the house and the end of that season. And you even see like even little touches like at the beginning of season three. The entire episode is about the FBI trying to plan a surveillance device in the soprano home. And they get a lamp a bug lamp into the basement, which is where some of the very most important secretive conversations on the show happen. You think oh my God. This is going to be major. And then a few later meadow comes down to the basement, it's like, hey, daddy, using his Lance. He's like, no she takes it to college with her. And that's it. Let's talk about some of the other really fine casting in this show. What do you give me two examples that you think really had the casting been different the show would have been different. Well, I mean, I can't imagine anybody, but eighty Falco's Carmella, and and what I love the most about her is her absolute lack of sentimentality, and the part, and I would say, you know, I think there's so much attention paid to to Jim not just because he was great. But also because he died too young. That I think we tend to forget that. She was there matching him beat for beat. And she was the only character on the show who was powerful enough to to not get completely steamrolled by him and seen and she I would say in her own way, although her character did not personally murder anyone she could be just as chilling like that whole plotline where she's trying to get the the recommendation to Columbia. I want that letter. I want that letter understand. She says, I don't understand. I don't think you understand. I need you to write that letter like, and she says it, very politely. And yes, we all felt the hair raise on the backs of our next memory of you bet. Exactly. Yes. And the funny thing is if you look at all the shows that came after the sopranos that we've already talked about on all those fans hate, the wives. It's just really unfortunate misogynistic reaction, really skyler, white, and Betty, Draper, and all the wives of the on paper despicable anti heroes people turned against them because they're getting in the way of the anti heroes fund and that never really happened on sopranos. And I think a lot of that is just a testament to how good he de Falco. Was and how easily she was able to make you sympathize with Carmella and also the writing of the part, they were always very clear that Carmella like a lot of the women in this universe were complicit in the evil of that world. And they and they knew it, and they and they decided to pretend that they that they weren't aware of it and that was part of the devil's bargain and in the episode from season three where Carmelo goes to therapy with this guy, Docker crack, our who only has one scene in the whole show. You really feel that coming clear, and he essentially tells her, you know, this is a state of spiritual rod that you're stuck in. And you have to take the kids or what's left of them as he puts it and leave and she doesn't. Let's take a listen to that something that scene. Have you ever read crime and punishment? STF's as you read it. Attention. I spent to turn himself in read this book and reflect on his crime everyday for seven years in this. Oh. Would have to. Get a lawyer finding apartment. Range for child support facility. I'm not charging you. Because I won't take. You can't either. Never say. That you haven't been tone. Holy cow. We have to talk about the ending the show they show ending of the show. I remember the next morning just people not knowing what to do. Yeah. True sopranos fans can often up. We all watched we'd all been into that anybody from jersey Vinton pulse. Did a guy. Did he not what happened? Well, what happened? I'll tell you what happened at my house, which is I was watching it on a slight delay because I was having trouble putting my son to bed. So so I I ride at the ending probably, you know, seven minutes, maybe after the when it was supposed to end and my phone was ringing off the hook. Like, this is the old days when the land line took most of the phone traffic, and it was like ring ring ring answering machine answering machine answering machine Abbas like what the hell's going on..
"betty draper" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"The listener support. But what exactly does that mean? Zillionaires? I'm a reporter in the newsroom to me listener support is about reliability. I meet people all the time who say, oh, my God, you work at WNYC. I love WNYC, and I rely on you, and it's really nice to be able to say back to them. We rely on you show your support. Go to WNYC dot org and click on donate. Listen, I'm Alison Stewart, we're talking with Matt Zoller sites and Alan seven about their book soprano sessions because the sopranos debuted in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine twenty years ago guys this show, James Gandolfini is the show. Yeah. You really is. Really really is. I mean tremendous cast. We'll talk about some of the other members of the cast. But how did he come to this part? Well, he well, he he read for it. And he was he was a character actor a heavily employed character actor at that time, but you know, because of his physical type he was often cast as hitmen and henchmen, and bumbling assistance and people like that. And sometimes you got a nice guy part. Like, he was Gena Davis is boyfriend and Angie. And you have to see the sweet and sexy side of the guy, but he never had a role like this until he read for it. And we have a anecdotes in the book about that process. But chase talks about how he originally thought about all these different people as Tony including Steve van Zandt who ended up playing Silvio, and if he had cast him he said, the show would have been more of like as he put it a live action. Simpson's like, it would've been a much different. Yeah. But he said that after he read James Gandolfini for the part. He started to see a different vision of the show, which is eventually what it became. And I think it's a very high compliment to an actor that based on reading for a part the person who created the show says, oh, I see other possibilities here. Maybe we should do this. The book also career has just heartbreaking, but lovely eulogies James Gandolfini. Yeah. That was that was tough just for him to be taken away from you know, like that. Because that was the both the best and worst part of rewatching the show for the book was we? Got to watch handle Fini? But every time we did. We were reminded of all the performances we were never going to get from him. But it's weird to say. Like, I feel like I underrated Jim until I went back to rewatch at this time. I always knew this was one of the great performances of all time. I don't think I quite understood that it was great performance of all time like there's no TV drama acting mount Rushmore. There's just his face up on the mountain. Yeah. That's true. And he was also just he was a very genuine real guy. Like, he wasn't like a Hollywood type at all. He he fought with the HBO publicist during the you know, before the premiere of season one that he didn't wanna take a limo to the premier because he thought his friends would see it and think he'd gone Hollywood. He wanted to arrive in a yellow cab. You know, that's the sort of person. He was he he won a Critics Award after the first season and at Christmas. He mailed us. All thank us with his home address handwritten on the back of the envelope. Yeah. Yeah. And he would do things like, you know, he would pay for a sushi chef to come in on Fridays when they got their last shot and make sushi for the cast and crew and he pay for it out of his own pocket. He was constantly donating money to charities David. Jason is eulogy for Jim. He talked about how he would when he drove he had a piece of he had a pad and a pen with him on the passenger seat whenever he drove because he would listen to the radio, and if you ever heard of a charitable cause he would wanna poll he would pull over and write down the name of it. And then call. Call people and say, can you please make a donation one of the reasons I think he was so perfect for the role is because you said you said he was charming, and, you know, even if you're an actor that charisma comes through some other part right that shar and that warmth and serve that sexiness. But then how brutal Tony was never let you forget. Tony was a killer for no, they did they did they never let you forget that at which is why college was important why HBO fought with David chase about it. They said if you haven't killed this guy, the audience will never forgive him. And shea said if he doesn't kill the guy the audience will never forgive that. They'll believe that he's phony. So they had to sort of carry through it, and they kept pushing that and pushing that over the course of the series, his behavior got worse and worse, and yet there were still some people who couldn't quit him because he was just that charismatic, and they just saw something of themselves in him or something of someone. They knew in him. And so there were Tony defenders till the end Christopher defenders to the paulie walnuts. Defenders till the end I think chase. Chase kept. Escalating, he kept escalating ugliness, you know. Like you can see in the in the back half of season one the characters become more openly racist and season two that continues and in season three we see them being like more openly misogynist, and there's a whole episode. It's basically about how part of the mafia's businesses the sex trade. But no matter what they did. There were certain people in the audience who still liked them and thought they were cool and fun and people that you want to emulate, and and chase said in the interview that we did you know that he got very frustrated by that, and and and towards the end people were saying, wow, this show is so ugly. These people are so mean, there's such failures as human beings. Why did I ever watch this show? And it's like, well finally we've gotten to the place where I wanted to be at obviously we're supposed to see ourselves in them. And that makes it complicated and interesting for us that attraction repulsion, which again is what Melfi had being kind of a viewer surrogate. But we're not. Supposed to we're not supposed to root for them. But we're also not supposed to condemn them, and that ambivalent places where the show resides, and that's that's also exemplified and things like the plot developments that are never resolved. Because the show is decided that they're not important like whatever happened to the Russian or the ending. You know, what happened in the end to just you know, the way that certain plots would build to anti-climax that was the former anti-climax as climax was a big part of the show like the one that Allen really grew to love, and you didn't like it. The first time was Furio season. Four Carmelo's flirting with Furio and I spend the whole season ponytail back in two thousand two going Carmella gonna sleep with Furio. When is that can happen and house Tony gonna react when he finds it. And it's Tony gonna fight Furio and could Furio actually be Tony and could Furio kill Tony. And what what does the job become then and getting very excited and nothing happens. Nothing at all happens. He leaves he has an opportunity to kill Tony. But he he doesn't have the nerve. And he just leaves. Yeah. And so it doesn't. Why was exasperated by? But because I came back this time, and I knew what was coming. I could focus more just on like what that story was telling us about the interior life of Carmelo soprano and how she's so frustrated and so angry about the state of our own life that she's willing to kick Tony out of the house and the end of that season. And you even see like even little touches like at the beginning of season three. The entire episode is about the FBI trying to plant a surveillance device in the soprano home. They get a lamp above lamp into the basement, which is where some of the very most important secret conversations on the show happen. You think oh my God. This is going to be major. And then a few episodes later meadow comes down to the basement. It's like, hey, daddy, using this lamps. You know, she takes it to college with her. And that's it. Let's talk about some of the other really fine casting in this show. What do you give me two examples that you think really had the casting been different the show would have been different. Well, I mean, I can't imagine anybody but eating Falco's Carmella. And and what I love the most about her is her absolute lack of sentimentality in the part. And I would say, you know, I think there's so much attention paid to to Jim not just because he was great. But also because he died too young that I think we tend to forget that. She was there matching him beat for beat. And she was the only character on the show who was powerful enough to to not get completely steamrolled by him and a scene, and she I would say in her own way, although her character did not personally murder anyone she could be just as chilling like that whole plot line where she's trying to get the the recommendation to Columbia, I want that letter. I want that. I don't understand. She says, I don't understand. I don't think you understand. I need you to write that letter like, and she says it, very politely. And yes. We all felt the hair raise on the backs of our next memory of you bet. Exactly. Yes. And the funny thing is if you look at all the shows that came after the sopranos that we've already talked about on all those shows, the fans hate, the wives. It's just really unfortunate misogynistic reaction, really skyler, white, and Betty, Draper, and all the wives of the on paper despicable anti heroes people turn against them because they're getting in the way of the anti heroes fund and that never really happened on sopranos. And I think a lot of that is just a testament to how good he Falco was and how easily she was able to make you sympathize with Carmella and also the writing of the part, you know, they were always very clear that Carmella like a lot of the women in this universe were complicit in the evil of that world. And they and they knew it, and they and they decided to pretend that they that they weren't aware of it and that was part of the devil's bargain and in the episode from season three where Carmella goes to therapy with this guy, Dr crack, our who only has one scene in the whole show. You really feel that coming clear. And he essentially tells her it's, you know, this is a state of spiritual rod that you're stuck in. And you have to take the kids or what's left of them as he puts it and leave and she doesn't. Let's take a listen to this something that if you ever crime and punishment. As you read readers. Redemption to turn himself in read this book and reflect on crimes every day for seven years in this. Oh. Might would have to get a lawyer finding an apartment. Range for child support. Charging you because won't take. You can't either. Say..
"betty draper" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"So Tony's obviously, the if we did a rewatch Ables of the entire sopranos. Tony's who on the shows. Tony who do you think is the number two MVP if you do know the voting who's the number two MVP of the show. I think it's probably Carmelo because if you look at all the shows that came after it that imitated in some way, everybody hates the wives on all those shows that hate skyler white. They hate Betty Draper. They hit all of them. And nobody really hates Carmella, despite the fact that you know, she doesn't get along with Tony. And she disapproves of all a lot of what he does. And that's a testament to how great eighty Falco wasn't how well they wrote that character that's fair. I would go at that too. I gotta say though. You know, it's funny. My wife said this. We were watching it. She was saying she always has this thing about how these people are these people become friends. These shows that we watch like she sex in the city. I remember the first movie came out, and she was she was like, I gotta go. These are my friends you've never met these people. What are you talking about? This is my friends I've spent a lot of time with them. And I felt that way with the sopranos. And she said that she was like, it's nice to have nice time our friends back. You know, feel like paulie walnuts. He's in your life for eighty two hours. And then he's just gone. And that's it, you know. And I think that was the big thing for me with the rewatch. So now, I think nothing I gotta bang out all the classics and really size them up with some perspective. I gotta do sopranos the wire a breaking bad guy, do thrones. And what's the fifth one? There's a there's a fifth one not lost Ed Wood. Never watched. Never watched deadwood. I've been saving it like a bottle of nineteen Ninety-four cabernet spent in the back in the back later this year. So that's a good excuse to do it. There's another. There was another classic though. We're missing one. There's another wind of when the mount Rushmore TV gets discussed. It's always the same few. And then there's one there's one other drama. What are we? But you've got that whole thing about chiklis being short. So that doesn't qualify. That's been. Oh, madman. Yes. Of course. So that's the that's the big five. And if we're trying to make a mount Rushmore, I think you had to pick four tough do sopranos madman. Thrones breaking bad with the fifth. Mount rushmore. Wow. I think I agree with you. I like game of thrones. But the show that sort of great in moments, but not nearly as great overall as most of the other ones we go process by eliminating. I can't take off sopranos. No, I can't take off the wire. No, I can't take off breaking bad. So that last spot is basically between thrones and madman in really have to put a lot of time and thought an energy and thinking about. How I feel about that. I do think mad men would be a really good rewatch excited to do that one. I, you know, especially those first couple seasons eats. It's sad though that we have no thrones is gonna go away June. We have no show that I feel like has a chance to be mount Rushmore worthy. Do you like there's a show out there that has a chance right now in terms of dramas? I'm not sure, but I feel like there. There's some really crazy stuff happening and half hours. Like it Lanta. You know, you could call it a half hour drama for sure and what it's been doing. So far has been pretty extraordinary. Hours different the fair. I almost feel like there's a half hour drama category. That has like Larry Sanders in Atlanta on those type of shows. That's like it's your its own mountain in then the traditional sitcoms eight I've been really surprised by what kind of legs the office has in how it's kind of become the show of this generation. In a lotta ways we had some friends of the family over in like all the kids got together. And they were watching a bunch of offices and a bunch of parks and rec so that that's definitely going on to the next generation the good places is going to be like that as well. And and I've said this before, but I think the streaming thing..
"betty draper" Discussed on Mason & Ireland
"Records nineteen I've got at least twenty twenty lined up. Okay. Ready? First clue starts clock. NBA the king plays for the Lakers. Lebron James eagles quarterback. He's her. Nick foles. Carson Wentz hosted the today show till he got me to me. I'm our played Hannibal Lecter in silence. Anthony Hopkins Queen of disco. Let's dance the last summer. Only if one of by land two if by sea midnight ride of of the midnight ride of. Revere. Yes. She sold. The American flag Betsy Ross he yelled show me the money. Cuba, getting junior not Peyton, but his brother ally. Manning starting Braveheart lethal weapon Gibson discovered gravity and apple Thelma said Thomas Edison, no fan, frankly. No, no skip it third baseman for the cubs. Kris bryant. Yeah. She played Betty, Draper and madman January Jones. She's a one female judge on dancing with the stars carry Naba. She started Annie hall. Dang keaton. She's from the hills married to Jay Cutler, Kristen cavalier played Tom Hagen and godfather rubber divall. I'm going to give us credit for that one. I got sixteen sixteen miss the one that we missed was discovered gravity and apple fell had Isaac Newton. Oh crap. That's tough. There was some historical ones. You know, what I would have done to get me to say that. But the cookie fig. Oh, yeah. Sure. I could. But what you see great. You think we messed up a couple of them? Boy. Yeah. You struggled on foles. Instead of once we got that got. Ear Paul revere time. See Paul revere. It would be the guy. We would've said the British are coming the British. You're coming. I would've got that right away. Yeah. That's what he was yelling on his rights to Weston. Yeah. I thought it was yelling one if by land. No, he's doing the pressure coming the British are coming, right. That's the polar opposite yelling one one. Trying to let you know how the British were coming one. If I land. He made some choice horse. If you won no say if I wrote a me played a game. No. If you said, oh, he wrote a horse through Boston yelling, Doug, man, we're out of practice by land. You never had a Papu. So it's a Papu. So Papu say is like a corn pancake that can be filled with beings bringing on the sounds good. Talk to her. So would you have in it? I I liked the cheese every morning every morning, I would have Papu. So with an egg on top for breakfast interesting. It was it was Fant it was like El Salvador version of what did they know breakfast? What's the thing? You get a break egg eggs Benedict except to Papu, by the way, a lot of people a lot of El Salvadorians or people with Salvadoran backgrounds have called nasty or tweeted asked me how I loved I loved that. There was a beautiful country. Could you live there? I could live there. I want to clear up one thing that came up in fasttrack that several people have tweeted us about in this from Scott Sanchez. Thank you, Scott just to be clear. The Golden State killer is guilty of killing twelve people raping over fifty women and over one hundred break ins and robberies. They're now using DNA on unsolved cases, he was found not guilty on one of those cases. Oh is that? Right. Yeah. But he was still guilty of everything else. Oh, well, so so I think he's still. Still really guilty as guilty as you can be if anything Michael Thompsons back in here. Michael, Greg Bergman just sent me something that I know I'm astounded by planning about founded on NBA dot com that over the last ten games despite having a record of four and six the Lakers have the number one defensive rating in the entire NBA been watching over the last ten games. We'll the last game was the first time in fourteen games. They've held anybody under one hundred plan defense. Right. What was better last game? Specifically, what were they doing? I mean, obviously callous miss shots that they made it because the Lakers defense. They put a lot of pressure on them they really affected defensively. But in those last the games against the Knicks. They look like they're playing defense. The you know. Against the wolves. Look they're playing defense. Well, who who comes up with these living? Yeah, you're well. You're going to get into with Mason..
"betty draper" Discussed on The Electorette Podcast
"So there's a number of articles that appear have talking about the shrinking role of the American man, they mean, the white American man, right or the ways in which women are taking over and becoming more shrew ish and bossy and pushy, and you start to see that, you know, in different articles, you know, places like the New York Times in Newsweek. In life magazine, you know, these types of observations start happening. And it's in this context that the nation of Islam under the leadership of the honorable Elijah Muhammad later, you know, Malcolm X arises as they're in of star right into the American consciousness that you have this vision of the strong black nation this religious organization in which the men are all very strong. They're in their bow ties in their suits. And they're out there on the front lines. And the women are all in the home wearing their white dresses and head coverings. They almost look like nuns, and they're all in the home cooking and taking care of the children and to a white American general public that is in this kind of anxiety around gender and men's roles and domestic space. What I argue is that this vision of the nation of Islam, and thus is. Slama general emerges as a threat to American gender norms. And I I look at how that plays out in images of the women in the nation of Islam in places like life magazine, things like that very popular images. Yeah. And then the children were, you know, quietly sitting in reading and they're perfect little children. Exactly. Exactly. But I mean that was also put out there to counter the idea of nation of Islam as being violent or a threat, right? Yeah. I mean, so I think what the nation of Islam. Put out there was that they were a threat and actually these women the fact that they had their women in check. And that the women were, you know, willing ready willing and able to just be these wives. Mothers actually, in a way added to the threat because in the expressions of anxiety of white American men around. The fact that women were going to work Ono men are losing power in the home. It was almost this feeling of losing control over their women. Like, you know, have you seen mad men, you know, like the show madman? It's like, you know, Betty Draper like can of losing control. Like, it was that type of fear that the women were not behaving the way that they should. And so for the nation of Islam for these black women to be behaving exactly as they should showed the power and the strength and the code. Piece of -ness of the Muslims. Right. Okay. So I missed the red that I thought it was the opposite. But it was it was show of strength. Like, look we have control of our families. Look. Happy are women. Yeah. It's interesting that that maybe the impression would have been that we have controlled the women. But if you look at those images of the Muslim women in the nation of Islam, they're very confrontational. They actually look in..
"betty draper" Discussed on KCRW
"Try this thinking method, and there was a woman named gene Nitish who tried everything. And then one day walked into a New York City funded obesity clinic and sheet everything that was on that program, and she lost the weight, and she couldn't wait to tell people. So she gathered them, and she told them come sit with me, and I will tell you all about this. And she realized pretty quickly that it wasn't just about the food. But what people really liked was gathering together. And they like talking about it. They like being among their people, and she started a corporation, and it just took off. My sense of it is that it's a pretty radically new idea that not only are you dieting, but you're meeting with another group of women, and you're getting on a scale, and your de stigmatizing the notion that we can talk about we like, I watch Betty Draper, go through this. Judy stickler half-pound law. Daddy. I lost a half a pound. And I feel like I should Pat myself on the back because it was really hard. Always talk about our goal in pounds. But that's not all it is is it. Thank you Betty. It's not just the meals the cooking, right? You have two days everything. We're supposed to be thankful for this. But the food is just a symbol of all the other things we should fill ourselves with our children our homes. Our husbands our health. Happiness. So at the same time that Jeanine edge is creating weightwatchers a man named Lou louder back publishes, a an essay in the Saturday Evening Post that talks about how fat people have different physiology.