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Bathsheba Demuth: Environmental Historian

Eyes on Conservation Podcast

08:37 min | 4 months ago

Bathsheba Demuth: Environmental Historian

"This episode of is on Conservation I spoke with author and environmental historian Bethsheba. Demuth Demuth is an assistant professor at Brown University who specializes in the intersection between humans. Ecosystems ideas in history the work that I do as an environmental historian is broadly focused on the North American and Russian Arctic and particularly the relationships between people and animals and people in Ecosystems. More broadly over the past two hundred years or so. We talked over. Skype demuth was in fairbanks as the professor was performing research for her new book. Her first book is titled Floating Coast and Environmental History of the Bering Straits. Npr called it. A quote deeply studied deeply felt book that lays out a devastating complex history of change notes. What faces us now and dares us to imagine better in quote as we proceed and get into this interview. I will note that I spoke with Professor Demuth while she was at the university library so it can be a little loud in the background at times. It's a busy place. I can promise you however that this will be one of the most compelling and interesting accounts of the history of whaling that you had ever you look so cold yes. It's a little chilly up here. What's the what's the weather like right? Now it's actually a pretty Balmy day today. It's about twenty degrees. It was about fifty degrees colder here last week. You've you've draw the line pretty much anything around ten. Just can't do it for me of all the things that makes this whole conversation. That much more interesting demuth was actually drawn to the Arctic in her young adult life and even lived in the Yukon for two years. And yes doing all the things that you're imagining right now tracking bears hunting. Caribou FISHING SALMON. And yes even. Husky Mushin Dog sledding and no. I'm not making that up. She's that for real your your first journeys out there. If I understand right was your running dog sled yes so when I was eighteen I decided to take a gap year as we. Now call them although they weren't really called then And went to a little community north of the Arctic Circle in the Yukon territory to be a dog handler which is basically an apprentice to somebody who has a dog team and I knew nothing about sled dogs. When I moved up there I was eighteen so I thought I knew something about things but I really didn't. And that was my first introduction to the Arctic. Okay and how long you said you do that for two years. Yes do you. Do you still remember how to do it? I mean I. It's kind of like riding a bicycle except in this particular case. You're working with dogs so you can remember how to do the physical pieces of it but you also need to have a relationship with animals. You're working with so. I'm sure that if I had a team and I spent a lot of time with them would would all come back because I would be making that relationship with dogs but I'd like a bicycle. You can't just grab one and go right right. Yeah that makes sense You don't have to get to know your bike. I right I probably ended up working appear because my dad read me too much Jack London when I was a kid. So there's definitely a literary connection in there now. I could do a really poor job of basically giving it a synopsis of the Book. Or I'm sure it would be much more articulate coming from you Tell us a little bit more about the Soviet whaling And more specifically what you found so fascinating a about that topic. Yes the book that I published. Just this past fall called floating coast looks at basically the the past two hundred years or so along the Bering Strait both the Russian Arctic and in the US Arctic. It's a it's a two country history but because it's an environmental history in some ways it's a history of no country because it's looking at processes an an animals that don't really matched onto nation state borders and the the the project is kind book ended no Pun intended by could have two episodes of large scale whaling the first one being in the nineteenth century for market whalers capitalist wailers most of them coming from New England in fact some of them from where I now live in Providence. Who were coming up to kill bowhead. Whales for oil for lamp oil mostly and then the book closes with a couple of chapters about Soviet whaling in the twentieth century. Which in many ways is just the socialist analog to the to the capitalist wailing in that it is Quite excessive it kills whales far outside their capacity to to reproduce. And keep keep up with the demand and those kind of frames of the book in some ways. Show the things that I found really interesting about this part of the world as a historian. Who's interested in the ways that people's ideas influence the environments? They live in and vice versa. Which is that. It's a it's a place that has a very similar ecology on both sides of the Bering Strait. If you drop down on the peninsula or the seward Peninsula Chukchi Peninsulas in Russia and the seward Peninsula's in Alaska. He can't really tell one from the other right. And let's you know the place extremely well. Because the the flora and the fauna in geology are really comparable but of course in the twentieth century. It gets split by these two big economic ideologies that imagine each other in opposition. Which is you know. Capitalism and socialism. So it's kind of a natural experiment to see how these two ways of managing environments in some sense that the Soviet Union the United States brought with them interact with Arctic species and in the case of Wales they do it very similarly which is more or less trying to kill everywhere they possibly can ya. It's like it's kind of shocking especially when you talk about like as a concern of how many whales are being impacted or what that's doing to the ecosystem comes up that the answer kind of always came back to will. Don't worry. Technology will save us from. That will deliver a positive outcome. Okay can you elaborate on that? Yes this was one of the really interesting commonalities I found between two groups of whalers who were operating hundred years apart from each other or more and in two extremely different cultural and economic contexts is at the end of nineteenth century moby. Dick STYLE TALL SHIP. Whalers call me. Ishmael an ordinary seaman before the mast on the good ship check. What found out a man on Christmas Day of the year? Eighteen forty four on a thousand days. Voight very aware that when they entered a new population of Wales and a piece of the ocean that they hadn't been hunting in before that they would they called. Wailing it out or fishing it out that they would kill off an enormous number of the animals that were that were available locally and that they were doing this and getting further and further from home. So they're aware and using the word extinction by the end of the nineteenth century but at the same time as they're talking about extinction they're basically saying well if we put in place some technological Improvements if our ships get faster. If we're more able to navigate around the sea ice will be able to still catch these whales and there was this kind of belief that because Wales were really intelligent. And all of the whalers nudists and talk about this in detail that there were more whales. They were just shy or had gotten smart and were hiding in new places. So there's actually a couple of lines in Moby Dick Melville talks about you know the whales are just hiding behind the Arctic Sea ice and then after the Second World War the Soviet Union sort of follows the same pattern in that they have very sophisticated marine biology by that point in many ways the the research that so the marine biologist or doing is ahead of what's happening in the United States particularly when it comes to studying ways that whales are social animals and able to communicate vocally with each other They're they're way ahead of what's happening in English. Speaking Countries but at the same time as an aware that that the populations of wheels are dropping but at the same time. They're convinced that as long as they just kind of keep putting more technology online. They're going to be able to keep killing

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"bethsheba" Discussed on Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

08:41 min | 10 months ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on Dateline NBC

"And continuing our story rob Le Moan one half of a so called perfect couple has been murdered. The detectives were stumped until they learned that Rob's wife Sabrina had been having an affair with a much younger man Jonathan hearn the perfect perfect marriage may not have been that perfect yes. He was only person that I'd ever met that would rather not be there but suspicion is one thing what detectives need now how is proof of able to get a wiretap authorize ten so we're able to listen to their conversations and instead of catching one fish looks like they may they met to while Japan I'd go I feel I feel like horrible. Person Memorial Sabrina in her husband's murder. I'd bet my life she's not. I am off absolutely not no way here again is Josh. Mankiewicz weeks had passed since rob woman's life was violently cut short detective ramble Meyer and his team were zeroing in on Jonathan her as a possible suspect and and now in Jonathan's foam records they found a lot of calls and texts to and from a burner phone the kind of own that somebody would use if they were are either committing a crime or having an extramarital affair trying to definitely avoid law enforcement detection or or husband detection yes yes of I was able to get a wiretap authorize and so we're able to go up on the phone to listen to their patients when they finally listened their suspicions. Suspicions were confirmed. Jonathan was on one end of the call and on the other Sobrino amount. Hey No that's okay. It was immediately obvious. The two were lovers so much at all anymore warm hours of conversations you think you listen to between Sabrina Lemond Jonathan her hundreds. Jonathan often spoke with Sabrina from the fire station. What are they talking about for most of the time they talked about their future together. They talked talked about God a lot about God's plan for them. We also talked about detective Mayer. Take message constrictive Myron. You asked me to call him so I'm going to okay great. Okay okay okay. I just wanted you to pray and Lee so let's play so expe- lives helped supreme it to help the right words a couple of minutes later. Sabrina called Meyer. She asked about the investigation of her husband's murder so there's now there's now information at at all. Honestly I don't have anything and I wish I did but I think we're kind of getting into a dead end which was not true minutes later. Sabrina called Jonathan. Everything's fine you own greg. No no questions at all. Meyer was tickling the wire. It's an expression police. US giving wiretap suspects something to talk about while the cops Sir Listening Meyer often found himself in the mood to tickle like when he told Sabrina police had found DNA at the crime scene the best news. You've gotten too far really oh. That's great. That was not true. That was a reuss. We're using and what happens is the result of that and other immediate phone call that Jonathan to talk about the possible. DNA Sabrina and Jonathan did not what exactly rejoice over this apparent break in the case instead. It sounded as if they suspected Meyer was playing them. Jonathan even knew the right terminology. Allergy officers are allowed to use brute meaning. They're allowed to get younger matron. You're allowed to lie to get home sounds like it didn't appear. That would be a normal conversation. You would have in hopes that the suspect suspect would be caught. The calls continued morning. I'd love her walgreen wine. We talked about the Bible. There's a lot of good good so good. Goddess Okay including the Old Testament story of David and Bethsheba Ask Sheba David is a lot like you and I- Sabrina it's the story of King David and the affair he had with Bethsheba who was married to to another man after bess. She became pregnant. David tried to cover up the CEO but sealed and then even onto ill like sent him into battle and pretty much had him killed off in the Bible. Even Bethsheba eventually married David suffered the consequences of his sin but repented appended and God forgave him even among to adultery who had an affair and so he went way out of his way to cover instead sinn was a recurring theme for Jonathan and Sabrina Van Abi Aad girl I feel I feel like those horrible person in the world idea too uh-huh I do too. I feel like I see all of life and I've done it all laid out in front of exactly exactly what sins were they talking about by now detectives had shared with Kellyanne Jason's some details of the investigation so they knew Jonathan hearn was the prime suspect and detectives suspected Sabrina as well. It was something Jason couldn't imagine when I spoke with police and I told him I'd bet my life. She's not involved absolutely not no way no way if Jonathan does does he did it on his own Sabrina bit of the Nita's. Would you bet your life that she wasn. Wolf probably not my life. I did not want her to be involved. All at all I prayed. She wasn't but what I bet my life on it. No meanwhile detective Meyer continued to tickle the wire and while listening to the lovers talk in real time he texted Sabrina a photo and she read the text to Jonathan Sabrina. When we think this is our guy you recognize his personal on the motorcycle. Jonathan heard that and pray they you were playing Sabrina and Jonathan a couple of violins. Yes that's what we're doing. I'm surprised you didn't have sheet music. Jonathan seemed to realize police were closing in yet was trying to convince himself. They were not Sabrina seemed to suspect her phone was being tapped clicking on the phone. When the lovers ever said goodbye that night it sounded as if they thought it might be for the last time contact in two days after that phone call three months after Rob Lowe moans murder. Sabrina and Jonathan were placed under arrest arrest detective. Meyer called Jason and Kelly we got him. Everything looks good. The evidence looks good and you think well. This is finally finally over thought will you couldn't have been more raw coming up. Sabrina Lhamo in the hot seat kill raw now but not for long detective buyer called me and said that he's got some really really bad news.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on Your Mom's House

Your Mom's House

04:16 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on Your Mom's House

"I was like are you seriously, busted, my chops for saying even before I watched this. I it just sort of it just sort of my heart that there is Christian music that there is Christian comedy that we that. Because as somebody that used to be in that world, it just hurts me that we're like, we're not in it. Like, we're not feeling what you guys are feeling. You know, what I mean segregate kind of world from this guy. I don't know this guy he has the same complex like there's a burden to my people. And I still consider the people. It's like you're not allowed to express your doubt. You're not allowed to express your anger. Not allowed to express your. Leanness? Yes. You know what I'm saying? You got to always put on face jealousy. That's what I mean. And that is not as I interpreted it, and I don't think that's really much up for debate. That's not the message of Christ authenticity, and real nece and truth and light is like the fucking point. So when I see us going like, well a lot of times Christian this. Maybe it's better before I do this. Yeah, we're trying to represent holiness. I think if you are holy like if you connect into the Infinit consciousness that erupted into the big bang and made everything if you can get into that feeling of oneness chances. Are you probably are pretty Qantas gentle. Nice patient, not very horny person. Not having twelve Michelob ultra -t's kinda guy saying we're not watching hardcore. We're not reading barely legal. But that that comes after the inner transformation for my people. And I used to do this go. Oh, I see the fruit of the inner transformation. So I'll pretend that it. I haven't true because that's all that matters is I just want to be in the group so slayer. Bump up against what you when you're not in that group. And you meet that person, you bump up against what you perceive as this the phoniness. That's what you go. Like, you're putting on something here. And I want to be that you don't express any doubt. And that you have all the answers it feels like it's it's cart before the horse. Yeah. I sympathize. I'm not saying a bunch of holy phony. Holy people. I'm saying when I was in match I felt it and saw the need to do it. Because there wasn't land. There wasn't freedom. There wasn't room for your doubt. They might say. Like your doubts are welcome. Now. They're fucking not not and neither is like my alcoholism or my drug addiction or my porn addiction. It's not we all like, you know, when youth pastors would back in the day before the internet would go for a conference that takeover a whole like a holiday in the porn like ordering what back when you had to order porn goes with time. Tatton, of course, because they're like this very thing. Juicy exciting electric alive idea that Jesus was representing got turned into don't jerk off. And you know, what happens when you do that porn rates go through when you finally have a weekend away from Hallam? Your frigid wife sucks that we've lost the narrative, I didn't come here to preach. But anyway, no, well, good stuff when we say, there's Christian comedy it breaks, my heart because I think Bill Burr is doing comedy. That is true. And is therefore Christ. You know, what I'm saying saying it's on the side of this is what it's fucking like to be a human it heals us it gives a solid Darayi and makes us feel less alone. That's so much better than going up. And being like, you know, Bethsheba was on the roof. Took a little Kabu. Like, who are you helping? Okay. You just did the I just. Yeah. Sure. I don't know tell tell me. And by the way, my heart is open to this, man. Okay. Okay. Strong church. Chris here, you know, they always say that preacher jokes are the worst. So we thought we'd put that to the test. This is the preacher joke challenge. That cars are in the New Testament because Jesus was a car painter carpet, can you? Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the worst jokes..

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"bethsheba" Discussed on News Talk 1130 WISN

News Talk 1130 WISN

02:19 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on News Talk 1130 WISN

"Rahab Ruth Bethsheba, and Mary the teenage girl who found herself pregnant, I want to tell you the story of one of those five women because she. She describes what Boxing Day is all about her name is Ruth. And that's why I asked you to turn to the local book named after her. It's in the Old Testament right after Joshua and judges, and we're going to start in chapter two verse one once upon a time, I'll tell you the story leading up to that. There was a man named Elimelech. He had a wife named Naomi. They were extraordinarily poor. They lived in Israel. And there was a famine they eventually ran out of money and out of food, and they were going to starve unless they did something they had two sons and four of them move to MOAB when they got there Elimelech up and died leaving Naomi with her two sons, they quickly married Mobike women or an Ruth ten years later. The two boys died leaving now three widows extremely poor. Their supply ran out the other daughter-in-law stayed behind Naomi and Ruth made it back to Israel. They had absolutely nothing. They were destitute impoverished and in desperate need. And that's where we meet. Them in chapter two I one now Naomi had a relative on her husband's side from the clan of Elimelech a man of standing that means that he was well respected in the community. He had some means he had some land. His name was boas and Ruth, the moa Bitis said tonight me please note, the author points out that she is a moa Bitis her ethnicity, it's communicated to us because it mattered at this point, not only would she impoverished, not only was she desperate. Not only see a widow. But she was an alien to she didn't belong this. Poor woman. Had nothing going her way. The Ruth the mo- abide is said to Naomi let me go to the fields and pick up the leftover grain behind anyone in whose is I find favor, and what she wanted to do was what's called glean. We'll see that word as we go through the text. The Hebrew word is LA caught it means to gather. Or collect the idea was that land owners were to allow the poor people to go behind the harvesters and everything fell on the ground. There was supposed.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on News Talk 1130 WISN

News Talk 1130 WISN

02:20 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on News Talk 1130 WISN

"Rahab, Ruth Bethsheba, and Mary the teenage girl who found herself pregnant, I want to tell you the story of one of those five women because. She describes what Boxing Day is all about her name is Ruth. And that's why I asked you to turn to the local book named after her. It's in the Old Testament right after Joshua and judges, and we're going to start in chapter two verse one once upon a time will tell you the story leading up to that. There was a man named Elimelech. He had a wife named Naomi. They were extraordinarily poor. They lived in Israel. And there was a famine they eventually ran out of money and out of food, and they were going to starve unless they did something they had two sons and a four of them move to MOAB when they got there Elimelech up and died leaving Naomi with her two sons, they quickly married Mobike women or an Ruth ten years later. The two boys died leaving now three widows extremely poor. Their supply ran out the other daughter-in-law stayed behind Naomi and Ruth made it back to Israel had absolutely nothing. They were destitute impoverished and in desperate need. And that's where we meet. Them in chapter two verse one now Naomi had a relative on her husband's side from the clan of Elimelech a man of standing that means that he was well respected in the community. He had some means he had some land. His name was boas and Ruth, the moa Bitis said tonight me please note, the author points out that she is a moa Bitis her ethnicity, it's communicated to us because it mattered at this point, not only would she impoverished, not only was she desperate. Not only will see a widow. But she was an alien to she didn't belong this. Poor woman. Had nothing going her way the Ruth, the mo- abide is said to Naomi let me go to the fields and pick up the leftover grain behind anyone in whose is I find favor, and what she wanted to do was what's called glean. We'll see that word as we go through the text. The Hebrew word is LA carte. It means to gather. Or collect the idea was that land owners were to allow the poor people to go behind the harvesters and everything fell on the ground. They were supposed to.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on Are You Real

Are You Real

02:09 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on Are You Real

"And have Christ be in situations that he would probably never come up again. And and I think that what opens the door for that is living a life that he calls us to loving God. I in loving others more than yourself. That's what really opens softens a heart to make it ripe. For planting the seeds of the gospel. The cool thing is God uses all of it to accomplish his work. So we don't even have to have the right equation in he'll still use it, you know, have the hope in. But we still have to be faithful to what he calls us to. Yes. Absolutely. I love that. You said that because sometimes we think we have to have the right answer or the right tools or the right something unlike man if God can use donkey in the Old Testament to turn somebody around to make the right decision to get a donkey to speak than he can use me. You know, he's his sin to accomplish a lot of his biggest things in life. Right. Like the bloodline coming through Bethsheba. Are you kidding me? The messy. You know, that shouldn't make sense. I love that. I love you. Brought that up because if you go through, you know, for so many years people in not that we shouldn't idolize or lack of a better word, but look up to people in the bible, but they were human man. And when you look at it like look at Paul he he wrote almost the entire New Testament. The guy was a murderer. He killed people for believing in Jesus of Peter lied. You bring up brush David who is one of our patriots David was an adulterer Anamur. I'm you just go through, and you just see how much God's love is how much his graces in through all of our screw ups. He still can use us in. He has something for us of that manages phasing yet. It is David has been a real fascination from recently, I've been reading a lot in second Samuel in the psalms. David is like the only man in the bible referred to as a man of Gaza, heart him like, okay? What is Amanda, Gaza heart? What does that mean in you, see his life, and it's obviously not a perfect Simas life..

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"bethsheba" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

KLIF 570 AM

06:01 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

"Next with the merit of karma Barragan. You've got to earn your way way. You get your next live by what you're doing. This live behave. Abraham at covenant is all about God's love for the Jews. And and there and giving them grace based on their faith. So it don't make oil and water. I well, wait a minute. That's one interpretation that is one interpretation, but there are many others. Okay. Well, show me how about Nixon's 'cause I don't see how merit next with great. I don't even understand your question to be honest with you. Okay. Well, the whole idea behind great is that we can't earn it that God gives us based on faith the whole idea behind karma. Is that we go to. I personally don't believe that. I believe that our whole life is built upon what we do here. I personally run my life the best I can and I fail at it quite often to to run my life in order to make certain that. My karma is clean. Let me give an example, if I let a fly out of a room because I don't want to crush a fly. If I don't step on an ant if I pick up an injured bird and bring it to a pet hospital. Why am I doing it? Well, I mean, the the point you're going over the simple examples, I'm giving you why do I let a fly out of a screen in a screen broom. Why would I see a butterfly or fly or a more trying to get out? Why do I pull the screen out? Let it fly out. You're a nice guy. But that's not going to solve you of your sin. Only Jesus Christ or agency. But you're you're okay. You're a fundamentalist Christian. Imposing your belief system upon me. But I don't happen to believe it. Name's michael. What you're imposing your world view on me. I don't happen to believe that. Okay. Well, you say that you're a Jew. Right. They're all about faith in God, not karma. They do. Not miss you can. But you're wrong. You're interpreting what Judaism is from your perspective. Not from the perspective of the long civilization of the Jewish people. Which by the way, has a very deter predation of what it means to be good person. Okay. Well, if a if a Jew, I mean, does it do you believe in the bible, or does it believe in the whole bunch of mixture of other stuff, isn't that the whole idea of being Jewish just to believe it depends, the orthodox Jewish people at here to a very strict interpretation of of the bible, they follow three hundred some odd commandments something. I could never do the modern Jewish person does not believe in that and doesn't worry about whether they turn left the right at sun sunset, and whether they'll be struck dead. So it depends which person you're talking to. Okay. Well, within the Jewish faith. You've got the subject of David Wright. Davidson, but Bethsheba did some pretty nasty stuff. But he didn't adult himself obscene by doing good is sin was forgiven by his faith, and that's not fundamentalism. Don't be calling me names. But now, you're jumping from you to David why are you putting yourself in the same category as king David because I'm human human? He's foul. You're fallible. You can't get rid of your sin by saving the fly. But I could save the fly. God I just said, but I can save the fly. Great. That's nice that I can save the moth, I can save the ant could save the elephant. I can save the eagle do you know why? Because I am the aunt the moth and the eagle. Do you understand that? Okay. Well, that's that's that sounds pantheon. Stick not not mow that sounds realistic in an age of slaughter and incivility towards the animal life on earth. In other words, when you poison the earth to kill let us say a Boll weevil. You're also killing the eagle why because you're poisoning contaminating the groundwater. We've all learned that with DVD, correct? Bla-bla-bla? I'm talking about don't give me, blah, blah, blah, just because you're related the Ramos somewhere intent somewhere in Alabama. What do you mean, blah, blah, blah. Why are you going on? But what I'm saying? You don't seem like a very nice Christian to me you sound like damn bigot. Why are you calling me names, Michael I love because you just said, blah, blah, blah, as though there is no relationship between the environment that what we do to it and our own health. I'm talking about grace, and I'm talking about car. I would say put your grace aside for one minute. And when you use the DT when you use the which animals are killed. Shells of eagles. So don't you understand how the environment works? How the ecology of the earth is interconnected? Why if you're if you're study of the bible, and your study of Jesus left has left you blind in one I friend that you need to read beyond that bible. And I believe you with that, you know, the fanatical Muslim believes in the self sufficiency of a single book the Koran they will not read any other book. Did you understand that that is a ninth century view of the world? That is still practiced by too many Muslims only one book is required for the limited mind of the ninth century person. And that book is the Koran they don't wanna read anything else. So that's why when the Muslim armies invaded Egypt. They burnt the Alexandria copying copying in the street to the ground. They didn't want any other books printed. You know that that's an example of stupidity and intolerance. So now, I get a call says to me that his interpretation of the world's only understanding of the world is the Christian bible. That's all well and good. But it's not the whole world. There's another. World. There's a world of science is a world of art poetry literature. These are other worlds that need to be looked at to get a whole understanding of mankind. His place in the universe. Join the Savage Nation..

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"bethsheba" Discussed on The Andrew Klavan Show

The Andrew Klavan Show

03:55 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on The Andrew Klavan Show

"So I have to tell you to funny cultural experiences I had over the weekend because they actually speak to something that's going on. That is really sad and hilarious at the same time. Which is right. My sweet spot. Yet yesterday, Saturday Saturday night, my wife, and I went to the Getty museum, which is a beautiful beautiful museum. And it's open late at night on Saturdays. Which is just great because the crowds are a little less than you can go and see their exhibits and have a nice dinner, and it really is a lovely lovely place. Nothing. I say about it. I don't want to take away from that. But they're exhibit called the renaissance nude. Which is you know, the the discovery of how you make the rediscovery I should say of how you put trae a human body in art, right? The Greeks did it so beautifully in their statutes, the Romans conquered copied, the Greeks, and then as room collapsed, you can watch you can watch the depictions of the body decay. And then you can see their skill disappears. In the terrible thing about a civilization indicate as doesn't know it's indicate it doesn't even say the people like, you know, who say, well, you know, they used to be able to make a better statue than that. Or just the old coots not aren't in with the modern cry. Dummy statuary. And so with the renaissance. They've rediscovered these statues. They rediscovered the human body, and they started to portray the nudes. And a lot of these news. They started out because it was a Christian culture. They started out with men doing Jesus with, you know, his drapery over his his midsection and was loans as they would say, and but also they started doing women, and those kind of sexy and some of those were made for rich male patrons wanted a picture of a sexy girl. And so they would take a biblical story, you know, about Bethsheba in her bath. And they would do this kind of very sexy nude portrait of a beautiful woman is these became better. And better they became more and more attractive list to I put on those head that headset thing where you can go on tour, and they had people from the museum talking about the different artwork. You would go to the press the button, and it would describe your. So the guy who have I don't know. He was he was one of the museum people. Is saying this is a tremendously erotic painting. I very much enjoy it just the smooth lines of a soft flash. And a light this of how breasts and you collect dude got that. And then you get the woman and she comes on. She says we have to remember that it's problematical that these were men made by men for men and the power dynamic is problematic feminist garbage. I was thinking was another words another words. The fact that men like to look at naked Dame's created some of the greatest work that humankind has ever produced, but feminism has created the ability to complain about it. That's what you get a little bit of erotic desire in men creates great art, and then the women complained that becomes like an artistic movement, and I bring this up because it is so much of the critical facility. So so much of the critical speech. I've always talked to the right? About the fact that we not only need to make movies and write books and start magazines and get involved in the culture. We also need to create the infrastructure for culture that brings praise to people who do things that are good who do things that not just are beautiful but also beautiful and elevate humankind. It can be even something that looks degrading like this sopranos which actually does elevate humankind by its wisdom and insight into the human condition or it can be something. That's just immediately beautiful like Bach the music of Bach. But the point is we have no infrastructure to do that they can praise and damp. So this movie came out moving. Movie came out called widows, and I went out to see it immediately because it was co written the screenplay was written by Gillian Flynn, who I like she wrote gone girl, and I've read all of her books,.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on James MacDonald Podcast

James MacDonald Podcast

04:11 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on James MacDonald Podcast

"It can also mean awesome. And the meaning of the versus a little bit unclear. It seemed awesome to him to do anything to her. Or it seemed impossible to him to do anything to her can't can't make out with my half sister. Right. The answer is. No, no. You can't do it. That is nowhere to be found. And so as he begins to think about this, and there's no strength of character around him. In fact, make a note of that consequences of permissive, father wound number one, no strength of character. If no one else would say, no he should have been saying no to himself are you insane. But he can't say not himself, and so he's gone from desiring to obsessing. And so it comes up at this crazy story notice verse three, but Amnon had a friend. Now, I don't do this often. But just draw one line through the word friend there. We do that and not because the word doesn't belong. But because this guy's no friend. This is a friend. In fact, I'm working on a little list right now top ten worst friends in the bible, and in at number seven is this guy Jona dab. This guy is disaster. He's about to give 'em non advice. And by the end of the sermon Amazon's gonna follow the advice to his death. So how good a friend is that? What should I do do this? This will lead to your murder. Okay. Bad friend, actually, not just a friend notice. In verse three a cousin Jona dab was the son of shimmy, David's brother, Jonas, dad was a very crafty, man. That's not a compliment. And I'm not going to give the whole story. Basically you can read that there. But David David the friend says do this go tell your dad that you're sick go tell your dad that you're sick. And you want your half sister tamer to come and make cakes for you. And when she's in your bedroom 'cause you're sick and making cakes for you, just grabber and do what you want. That's the advice, some friend, right? And like, I'm going to do it. And so he goes, and he talks to his father. And and just I'm bet you can guess what do you think is father said, so here's David at the end of her six, please let my sister taymor com and make a couple of cakes for me. I'm sick see verse six and not lay down in pretended to be ill. When the game came to see him. On Sunday heard you're sick. I heard you say. My sister tame aren't make a couple of gigs for me and my sight, by the way underlying that in my sight, it's in the text three times right there. Verse five in my sight. Verse six in my sight verse eight in my sight. Interesting how the sins of the father visit the children and David was on a roof just two chapters ago second Samuel eleven he saw Bethsheba, and he committed adultery with her and committed murder because of it all because of what came in through his eyes and now his son. There's quite a few years between these chapters and now his son what I see same same as same as Sampson. Parents if your kids can have whatever they see. You're attaching a major fuse to their life, and it will result in an explosion. What is David say? Of course, he says yes verse seven then Davidson home to tame are saying go to your brother Amazon's house, David so clueless. So permissive to your brother Amnon house and prepare food for him. So tame our went to her brother Amnon house where he was lying down. She took ddo and needed it made cakes in his sight. Now, this is about to become a disaster..

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"bethsheba" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

03:19 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"It to the point that it becomes kind of nationally known almost as like a tourist attraction, and then sell it to somebody and just never mentioned that because that affects people fucking bothering them all the time could affect the value. The home of the people might not want to buy it. Because as you know, the thing, it's super creepy. That's what they said. Anyway, Warren's would research hundreds of cases over the years. They traveled the world giving lectures on the paranormal and towards the end of ED's life. They'd it. No real books on what they say. They've witnessed you know, the case I spoke of to start. Today's tale apparently occurred in nineteen sixty eight and the horror films Annabel and Annabel creation based on that haunting nine hundred seventy one. The Warren's went to harrisville Rhode Island to investigate the claims of the parent family who believed their home was haunted by which the warrant we claim that the witch named Bethsheba Sherman cursed the land so that who ever lived there with somehow die in this story would become the. Plots of two thousand thirteen of contrary Bethsheba does sound like a which name like if you're a witch. You can't call yourself like Treasa Bethany. You want people to fear you switch it up call yourself, but she blood USA malevolent Zia. So the darkened for boating. We we'll talk about this haunting at link later in the suck nineteen seventy six warns investigated, the Amityville horror case we already looked into and bonus suck eleven nineteen. Seventy seven the warns investgated claims that a family in north the north London suburb of Enfield or haunted by poltergeist, some kind of guys activity. This hanie would later become the basis for the film, the conjuring to I need to see that movie heard. It was good Jesse. Doug NAR editor says it was better than the first one. I loved the first one I would wash last night. I was alone in my house, and I'm a scaredy cat. Okay. I swear I'm still nervous about going down in my basement ever since fucking shadow personnel. Priscilla China people. Why did why does that have to maybe exist? Creepy nine seventy one already Johnson or Arn Johnson. One of those weird names accused of killing his landlord, Alan Bano, Ed and Lorraine Warren had been called prior to the killing to to deal with. Alleged demonic possession of the younger brother of Jonathan's fiance. The war and subsequently claimed that Johnson had also been possessed and then at trial Johnson attempted to plead not guilty by reason of demonic possession. But was unsuccessful with athlete that was that was too far. The case was described the nineteen Eighty-three book devil in Connecticut. And again, can you imagine if you did get off because of that I rule in favor of the defendant? He couldn't help what he did. Because he was he was possessed by David bafflement and take it over his spirit. Nights, eighty Eighty-six. Ed Lorraine warrant arrived in proclaimed the sticker house. Formal funeral home was infested with demons two thousand nine film. The haunting Connecticut is very loosely based on the Warren's version of what happened in that house. We'll dive into this case in-depth later apparently involves actually getting raped by demons. That's the worst kind of demon the right behind, you know, I mean if you end up getting haunted, you know, having the ghost of like Richard Ramirez, or some of the rapists the worst next to a murdering ghosts a raping and murdering ghosts as probably the very worst. I can't even imagine. How crazy I would go. It goes right me a holy shit. Now being able to defend yourself. You can't even see it coming just some fucking spirit wing coming for your orifices at all times. I mean, what can you do?.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on WTRH

WTRH

09:43 min | 1 year ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on WTRH

"And he was willing to admit it. In fact, that was you know, many people. They will deny they will cover up. They will not. Confess, they won't admit the wrong. And yet you see the very opposite. In fact, it's really quite a poignant when you look at at what David wrote a following his. Affair with Bethsheba. He said have mercy on me. Oh god. According to your unfailing love, this is some fifty one this is of course, he is the director of music. It. It's a psalm of David when the the prophet approached him and confronted him. And all of a sudden David literally admitted, I am the man who is has has been wrong and. This is following he quit. He had committed adultery is best Sheba. And what you see is an. And I'm I'm struck by the fact that you see the kind of man that not only blows it as we all blown we've all chosen wrong. Fact the bible even says all we like sheep on astray each one of us has gone to his own way to Lord laid on its him. The quality of us all. And I say that because the him I believe my heart is is Jesus. What I'm wanting to say is your are, correct. To to be drawn to David. You know, he says the sacrifices of God are a broken spirit of Brooklyn contract heart. Oh, God you will not despise. In other words. It begins with the heart. And you understand that too. You understand that? It's not show. It's not. Acting religious David said in verse six of that psalm. Surely, you deserve truth in the inner parts, you're teach me wisdom in in most place. That's where you are my friend. You are seeking truth in the end most part of you. You want wisdom, and you you need wisdom because what I gather is. It's kinda like with David you look at what he was doing with Bethsheba and every his life start falling apart. And. So you say, well, how's that working for you? Until. It's like here. He is king. And yet he's doing it his way, you're right. He blew it. God is restore he's a redeemer. If we are willing to humble our hearts. I want. I want to say, you know, you're right about David king. David he was very personal. And yet he wrote songs about not only is wrong. But he wrote songs about his personal relationship, and they were sung and repeated. For all of us. So you don't you. God's working in your life. I I really believe that. And I'm I'm kind of excited about that. At the cause when God heads. I use the term when God has a divine appointment with a person. It. You don't have to understand it. You don't have to know it. But when he wants to communicate to you. He's going to prepare your heart and he's going to prepare the circumstance. Because he wants to intervene in your life. I'm going to ask I told you I wanted you to tell me anything that would be an objection that you would have. Put your objections to having. Not just even a belief in God. But. Do you understand? And I need to do you understand that God wants a relationship with you? Have you heard that before? Okay. What would be would would if if it were possible to have it would you want it? You don't know how much I wanna okay, that's huge. What you have are millions of people who aren't I'm not talking about people who just go to church, but there are millions of people who've experienced a relationship with him. In. I'm just one little person often Dallas, Texas. But I'm musician too. And I understand I don't talk about being a musician. I rarely talk about it. But I know the soul part of us. We're created to have fellowship with him. And we're created steep were created body soul and spirit, body soul and spirit. We usually. Kind of work hard to take care of the body by feeding it and doing the things we need to do to keep it going sleep. It's era. But. The soul is your mind will any motions your mind will and emotions it's really kind of the personality part of you. But there's a part that's the spirit. What does the spirit the spirit is the part that is? Going to have fellowship with God. It is. It is the invisible part of us just as the. The soul and the spirit are invisible. But they have different functions. There was a Jewish man who was the first martyr. He believed in Jesus, and he was murdered. Because of his faith in Jesus. And he said my spirit goes to be with you. This is upon being stoned Simmons, Stephen. Stephen. He was a young man who had given his life to Christ. Now, what did you grow up with any faith tradition? Jewish Jewish cultural. Okay. Well, since since you said that I want you to realize I'm going to read something to you. Because I think it's important. If you have a Jewish heritage. I I know that there can be very different. A real difference between Jewish faith versus heritage. But you know, as a Jewish heritage, I want you to listen to something that you might find interesting. I was on a plane one time. Well, actually, there there was a man who called hope hope for helping tonight this program, we were a brand new program, and he said. Jewish and he said, I just want to know he said, I am in this hotel. I'm going to leave tomorrow morning, and he talked about leaving. And but but he said why why he would say that Jesus is God. And I said, well, you said you're in the hotel said let me let me read something to you. I started reading and all of a sudden he said that's not in the Jewish scriptures. Because I said this is an Jewish scripture. So I said, oh, yes, it is. You probably have a Gideon bible in the hotel. And so he so he went and got the bible, and I would just waited for him. And I'm going to read you from Isaiah fifty three whose being talked about here. This is eight.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on AM 590 The Answer

AM 590 The Answer

02:15 min | 2 years ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on AM 590 The Answer

"The book called the armor of god and again we'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks we've got michael listening in canada michael welcome to the program posture does and pressure rough how are you just not very good thank you for calling in your question my question is to do with adultery myongchol i won't name any names but he told me that if if you remarry and your ex spouse isn't passed away that you're committing adultery in that you're not gonna go to heaven is that true or false well if you remarry without biblical grounds the bible tells us that that is a sin but the idea that it is the unpardonable sin the bible does not teach because if that was the case then abraham wouldn't make it because he divorced hagar and david will not make it because he married bethsheba under very dubious circumstances so the idea that it is a sin there are things that are qualify as a sin marion or divorce without biblical grounds jesus speaks against say that you can't go to heaven then that there's no repentance so there's no hope i think we got to be careful about saying things like that it's whenever you send anything you need to repent of that sin now sometimes people divorce and remarry and they don't have biblical grounds and they have children and then they get converted to come to christ and i think well what do i do now divorced my wife and abandoned my my present children as i heard one pastor say you cannot unscramble scrambled eggs so you just got meets his where we're at and you've got gotta go from there after david city was bath sheba he was punished for his sin punish severely but god never told them now i want you to dump bethsheba already killed her husband so she remained his wife for the rest of david's wife so hopefully that helps them book on that here we have a book we'll send you a free copy all you left call the number i'll tell you.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

WBAP 820AM

01:47 min | 2 years ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

"And you know and and file lawsuits or to ask you roman catholic friend is that they also roman catholic yeah what they think of king david what did they think of the psalms psalms yes they do yeah what are they not are they not the most incredible and beautiful poetry written to god and god yes and king david did a beth did bethsheba and killed her husband now he yet god called him a man after god's own heart yeah so so clearly your friend has got to denounce david and rip out the psalms yeah he's gone now we also we also need to go after moses who killed that he stabbed that to to kill that dude before he was sent out in the forty years in the desert right i mean he murdered somebody that's worse than than you would obviously say murder is worse than than bedding down with it with a porn star swearing wouldn't you say so moses out david out moses also got was it abraham the cut trunk in how about abraham having sex with a with a with his with his servant and having a baby he's out there hold on a second i'm hot now they are all out these people are right this comes right they're all out and i gotta tell you something paul who wrote two thirds of the new testament paul killed and percy he was obama but on steroids he was killed us right he reviled he rebelled and killing us they're all out the bible's wrong they're all out because everyone of them are murderers lectures killers and our affair of having a fair so they're up there right.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

WBAP 820AM

02:10 min | 2 years ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

"And for lawsuits or to ask you roman catholic friend they also roman catholic what they think of king david what did they think of the psalms psalms yes they there what are they not are they not the most incredible and beautiful poetry written to god in god yes and king david did a beth did bethsheba and killed her husband now god called him a man after god's own heart yeah well we're so so clearly your friend has got to denounce david and rip out the psalms yeah he's gone now also we also need to go after moses who killed that he stabbed that to to kill that dude before he was sent out in the forty years in the desert right i mean he murdered somebody that's worse than than you would obviously say murder is worse than than bedding down with it with a porn star swearing wouldn't you say some moses out david out moses also got was it abraham the trunk and how about abraham having sex with a with a with his with his servant and having a baby he's out there hold on a second i'm hot now they are all out these people are right this comes right they're all out and i gotta tell you something paul who wrote twothirds the new testament paul killed and percy he was obama but on steroids he was killed us he reviled he rebelled and killing us they're all out the bible's wrong they're all out because everyone of them are murderers lecturers killers affair of having a fair so they're up there right trump's out everybody's out back in he can kill more babies he can make us defenceless he can he can tell people to stand down when russia is is interfering our elections and they know what they're watching it happen stand down he can stand down when russia invades and takes over neighboring communities and do nothing and that's what we want we want per christians persecuted by our president who are past president and we want babies killed and we want nonce forced to bright contraception.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on AM 590 The Answer

AM 590 The Answer

02:03 min | 2 years ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on AM 590 The Answer

"Get to fill up listening in california philip you on the air yes yes i am and your questions now yeah of course geno divorce read marriage as a christian i got married to a woman force ten years later i very i was wondering if you think it's wrong or should present spouse to go back to her or this single well if you married now you know you don't want to try to unscramble scrambled eggs there's actually verse in deuteronomy that if a man divorces his wife and she goes and becomes another man's husband and she leads that match he cannot return to her first husband bless you to file the land god was he didn't want to have married people canas swapping in and out and try and someone else for a while and so that was forbidden uh so you know if if you're divorced in your remarried now um the panel says it's it's not a propri it to uh the abby especially if you're married don't even think about who you might be mary to otherwise you need to love your wife you if you didn't get together under the right circumstances it doesn't mean you run and get divorced now you're either marietta you're not and if you're married you've made a covenant and you want to keep that cabinet had david didn't really have a right to married bethsheba and david suffered for doing that but once he was married to bethsheba he knew better than to put her away and he eastate mary tour and until the day of his death of course all your eggs are thank you very much appreciate you quinn we do have a book we do yeah i think you'll enjoy philip by anybody wanting to learn more about this the book is called marriage divorce and remarriage and won't be have descended to anyone who calls and ask the number to call is eight hundred eight three five six seven four.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on WGTK

WGTK

02:53 min | 2 years ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on WGTK

"Although i resent myself for not being able to no no no resentment of the other tracy if armed envious i dunno on and this is an open question does it employ if you from envious i gave the example of a woman who might be envious of another woman's loss isn't doesn't tax contain an element of i resent her for having such good looks i i yes i would say so all right so then i'm not sure you end the might ability to be coherent and clear and so on you why i think i'll be right anchored in some ways because your through your experience you've been able to i don't think you're you came out of the womb and you are able to be as good as what you are today i think it's take it took a lot of time and effort but does but you don't resent that you don't resent all the time effort but and by the way part of it is built in i mean i i can't take one hundred percent credit for that may be true but you're also humble individual yourself all right i'm a to some realistic too i should do a showing humility because it's the most misunderstood trade but an but putting that aside whether i am or not the it's i'm i'm a realist we are born with certain abilities i have i was born with disability a uh but but you're right but i've worked very hard on it but again i just wanted to return to the envy since since envy is regarded as a moral defect if there must be something defective about it and may be the resentment is on the other hand you have a very good point you will you say even if it's defective i am turning it into something pas right that's what that's what your calls about that's a that's a terrific call that goes under the umbrella of terrific coal whether rich positive or negative or neutral he is taking a vat and saying hey i want to have that not you can't steal it from me so it's not like see it's an interesting question if i envy you your car then uh i can that could be theoretically part of me there wants to steal your car or to use a biblical example king david envied iran says iran effort having this beautiful wife bethsheba and he did take care he did take her from him he had the man sent to war to die.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on SuperTalk WTN 99.7

SuperTalk WTN 99.7

01:53 min | 2 years ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on SuperTalk WTN 99.7

"Giants and i'm going i can't really blame those i think that has less to do with the anthem and more to do with just banned football worldly and on again i told you about about same cisco i i realize this only a couple of weeks two or three i guess when he's when they put him in style i didn't pay attention is going to be quite honest with you and i noticed that they had cj bethune and i'm goal that's kind of an unusual name only no one other person by the name and lo and behold it's his son casey bethsheba hate casing casey listen to the show it's his son and i didn't realize his son was the standout football bluffing it played in iowa and i didn't know that had no idea anyway so cj which i am suming is casey jr is the quarterback for the san francisco forty nine years and it's an unfair i just think boat wheel with kc and his family are going through this year with all those kneeling stuff and the legacy if you want to call that the cabinet left at the same cisco forty nine is is just really just sort of ruined the locker room there and they're trying to rebuild and kyle shanahan who have the coach in trying to rebuild all the stuff that was i think destroyed really i mean you can't put it all on capri neck but i mean you'll firing of har ball and and things i know fielding there's a sports takes you like attentive on your support i well this is this is the political commentary of in because retirement the protest i'm just tell you what i think happened to him i think what they did at san francisco is they gave in to camp renege and here cabinet was when he started this a secondstring quarterback who they were talking about cutting mind the standing was and then of course he starts doing this nonsense ai and then it's all of you cut me now well it's because you know like you're trying to squelch my free speech rights and all the.

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"bethsheba" Discussed on James MacDonald Podcast

James MacDonald Podcast

01:39 min | 3 years ago

"bethsheba" Discussed on James MacDonald Podcast

"And making cakes for you just grabber and do what you want that's the advice some friend right annan's like i'm going to do it and so he goes and he talks to his father in and i'm just i'm bet you can guess what do you think is father set so here's david at the end of our six please let my sister tame are com and make a couple of cakes for me i'm sick the verse six am non lay down in pretended to be ill and the king came to see him on sunday heard you're sick i heard you say let my sister tammy mark i make a couple of gigs for me and my sight by the way underlined that in my sight it's in the text threetimes right there verse five in my site verse six in my sight verse eight in my site interesting how the sins of the father visit the children and david was on a roof just two chapters ago seconds annual eleven he saw bethsheba and he committed adultery with her and committed murder because of it all because of what came in through his eyes and now his son there's quite a few years between these chapters and now his son what i see famous sameness same as sampson parents if your kids can have whatever they see your attaching a major fuse to their life and it will result in an explosion so what is david say of course he says yes for seven then david sent home to tame are saying go to your brother and aunt's house at.

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