20 Episode results for "Beta"

#B112 (bet to beta-glucan)

The Dictionary

08:15 min | 7 months ago

#B112 (bet to beta-glucan)

"Hello words welcome to another episode of the dictionary podcast. The first WORD IS BET. B. E. T. It is the I form a noun from fifteen ninety two one a something that is laid staked or pledge typically between. Whoa what just happened? My Cat fell off the window ledge and landed on their food plate. Okay we are going to keep on going. I am not going to retake this. 'cause that is gold right there are people all right so the one a forget is something that has laid staked pledge typically between two parties on the outcome of a contest or a contingent issue. Synonym is wager and this is often used figuratively in such phrases. As all bets are off to stress the uncertainty of an outcome one be the act of giving such a pledge. Oh She's Ein the window sill again. She Su there's an air conditioner in the window and she likes to go sit on top of it and listen to the birds that are have made a nest underneath it but now she's afraid of the plate if she falls anyway back to the words Let's see number two something to wager on three a choice made by consideration of probabilities. As in your best bet is the back road. Why is that your best bet now? We have the second form of bet it is a verb from fifteen ninety seven starting with transitive one eight to stake on the outcome of an issue or the performance of a contestant. One be to make able to be sure that to what no I think. I read that wrong to be able to be sure that still a weird phrase that is usually used in the expression you bet as in you bet. I'll be there not during these times of self quarantine to a to maintain with or as if with a bet to be to make a bet with to see to make a bet on and then we have one in transitive definition to lay bet. Now we have the third form of bet. It is an abbreviation for the word between so. Would you pronounce the Abbreviation as beat? I don't think so now. We have the Word Beta B. E. T. A. It is the I form and all of the rest of the words will start with Beta. Yeah Alright this is chiefly British. This first one. It is a noun from the fourteenth century. One these second Interesting they read it to d instead of two n d the second letter of the Greek alphabet and then it says to see the alphabet table number. Two Synonym is Beta particle number. Three a measure of the risk potential of a stock or an investment portfolio expressed as a ratio of the stocks or portfolios volatility to the volatility of the market as a whole number four. A nearly complete prototype of a product as software as in released in Beta also was in the Beta version. So this is from middle English Beth from the Latin Beta which is from the Greek Beta which is of Sam origin. Se is that Semitic it's probably Semitic Of Semitic origin akin to the Hebrew Beth B. E. T. H. Which means Beth? We will get to that later. I guess Now we have the second form of Beta. It is an adjective from eighteen. Sixty two second in position in the structure of an organic molecule from a particular group or atom as in Beta substitution. This is often used in combination and the symbol for this. Is I think this is the Greek letter Beta it. Looks like a be like a capital B. In our English alphabet but the bottom left part of it sort of is a tale. That goes down now. We have Beta Adron Beta with Hyphen. And then a D. R. E. N. E. R. Adra Nordic. I pronounced that correctly. This is an adjective from nineteen fifty-nine of relating to or being a Beta receptor as in Beta Edrich blocking action. Now we have Beta amyloid Beta Hyphen A. M. Y. L. This is a noun from nineteen eighty-seven and amyloid that is derived from a larger precursor protein. And is the primary component of plaques characteristic of Alzheimer's Disease. Next we have Beta blocker two words with a hyphen noun from nineteen sixty eight any of a class of drugs as pro prowl. Non All what it goes over to the second line so it's hard to read it altogether propranolol that decrease the rate and force of heart contraception 's No contractions heart contractions and lower high blood pressure by blocking the activity of Beta receptors. Beta blocking is an adjective next. We have Beta Carotene. There is no carrots in this. It's nats not what it is There is a hyphen though. It is a noun from nineteen thirty four. An isomer carotene found in dark green and dark yellow vegetables and fruits and are orange. So it doesn't it doesn't work now. We have BETA cell two words. Noun from nineteen twenty six any of the insulin secreting pancreatic cells in the islets or is lots of Linger Hans. mentioned this before but weird. Al Has a great song about the pancreas and those words are mentioned in it next. We have Beta decay two words Noun from nineteen thirty one. A radioactive nuclear transformation governed by the weak force in which a nuclear on as a neutron changes into a nuclear on as a proton of the other type with the emission of either an electron and an anti Neutrino or a positron and a Neutrino. I feel like what I read was all FI. But it's not it's real life now. We have Beta endorphin two words Hyphen Noun from nineteen seventy six and endorphin in the two itary gland having a much greater analgesic potency than morphine. Now we have Beta Globulin two words Noun from nineteen forty-three any of several globulin or plasma of plasma or serum that have an alkaline Ph electro for foretich mobility's intermediate between those of the Alpha Globulin 's and Gamma Globulin. That was a mouthful. I think we will do one more for this episode. It is Beta glue. Can Beta Hyphen G. L. A. N? It is a noun from nineteen sixty six any of several Sacca Rides consisting of glucose units and including one found in endo sperm cell walls of cereal grains barley and oats. So what will be the word of the episode I didn't totally understand what most of these were. So we're just going to pick as the word of the episode. It's a thing you hear a lot in terms of You know when you're saying the alphabet you want to your over the phone and you say the letter B. is Beta or or you know a Beta version of software. Anyway it's a it's an important word that is going to be it for this episode if you are regular listener or if you're a new listener I do hope that you rate and review and share this so more people can learn lots of new words. Because I know I am. This has been Spencer Dispensing Information Goodbye.

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Episode 25 - Weekly Challenges & Huddle.so Beta Invites

No Code No Problem

05:07 min | 9 months ago

Episode 25 - Weekly Challenges & Huddle.so Beta Invites

"Hey there this is Ryan episode. Twenty five th no code no problem. Today's episode is brought to you by dollar adult was a powerful new tool that you can use to build mobile and Web APPs in minutes I featured a dollar on episode two before they were a sponsor and I recommend that you check them out at a dollar dot com. Use The code no code. No problem there's no spaces to get twenty percents off for six months or use my referral link in the description so go check them out and if you have heard about them and you want twenty or twenty percent for the first six months go use my code. If you've heard about them but dormant account making account use my Lincoln disruption and go show them some love so i. It's been a long time since it's been like a week since my last episode so I was happened Thanks to the corona virus event in Your City on March sixteenth is currently cancelled. So we rescheduling for early. May so I hope to see everyone there. I believe it'll be may seventh. Which is a Thursday and we are looking at. I believe for clock to seven o'clock or four thirty to seven thirty. Something of the sort and yeah. So we're we're working with rise to reschedule assuming everything is back to normal and our the loud still going to be the same. We're going to have probably three angel. Investors come speak and then the company new Demo so And Yeah so that's updated on. The event may seventh. And if you already purchased a ticket to the event the tickets GONNA roll over to May seventh. If you WANNA refund request a refund Wilson you your money back. I mean I think he's like ten bucks or something like that but everybody counts. So just let us know. And then with city shutting down and limited options the weekly Noko challenges held by Noko. Deb'S WHO's a fellow? Yinzer should be getting even more love and more submissions. So if you want to participate but can't seem to find where on twitter Just shoot me a damn and I can send you in the right direction and I believe you can find it. Adds NO CO devs DOT COM but yeah medium? I can send us in the right direction. And this week's challenge consists of building a mobile stop or a mobile APP using Google Finance and glide and I'm pretty excited to see what people come up with for this one Mostly because I. I've always been interested in stocks ever since I was like thirteen. And I've been holding fight. The last three weeks I've been loading up on. Us Y which is basically is the price is based on vix futures. So I've been taking credit killing on that But yeah so. I'm excited to see that. And if you're interested in past competitions like examples that they've done before they include things like creating twitter bought and a portfolio landing page so those are two previous challenges and the winner wins cash. So I know it's one hundred bucks sixty five bucks forty five bucks all kinds of numbers but Yeah so looking to win some cash go go do challenge and so make sure you go follow at. Noko deb's on twitter and Check HIM OUT. He has a really bad ass social media for For New coders so so go go go check that out as well And then another recent launch in the space which metal mass which I mentioned last episode was huddle and they're starting to rollout. Beta invites to know code makers so you can sign up for Beta access on the website at huddled dot. So I the Lincoln and descriptions well so go check them out and for those of you who wants to know huddle is a project management tool designed for no code makers so if you build shit with no code. Kgo San for their Beta and You know listen unit fights. It's pretty cool. They have stuff in the works if you are working on a project. You're looking for a good project. Management Tool built with no coat itself. Then go check them out And then for today's episode. I'm excited to announce that I'm realizing my website using unstuck dot com and I'll have a lot more content including a blog in different tabs. It's just a lot cleaner than myself on card and includes a blog that will have articles from some of the members in the no code space. So if you WANNA published an article you have written. I would love to give you credit and back Lincoln back link it to you or your blog so I can improve your seo and we can give you more exposure so just let me know shoot me an email and then. I just got some stamps. So I'll be sending out the new graphics to bunch of you and I hope you like them and make sure whenever you get your sticker to post a picture on twitter when you get it with. Hashtag no code no problem so thanks again for listening guys. I'll see you next time on no code no problem.

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Mac Power Users 542: Beta Tales

Mac Power Users

1:16:00 hr | 5 months ago

Mac Power Users 542: Beta Tales

"Mac, power users. Five hundred forty two Beta Tales. Hello Welcome back to Mac power users. My name is Stephen Hackett and I'm joined as always my friend in yours Mr David Sparks Hello Mr Hackett. How are you today? I am good. This is going to be a fun one. Yes, all my devices are running a little hotter. Their batteries are burning a little faster, but I'm having so much fun. That's good. Before we get to the the Beta season, because that is officially started now and apple, and in a big way, we spoke a couple of episodes ago about the Really FM membership program and Mac power users going to be taking part of that starting in July so. What we're GONNA be offering recalling more power users, a very clever David that name at whiteboards and consultants, and we came up with it pretty good right it costs thousands of dollars come up with that name, so please join so I can pay off their brand more power user so What this is GonNa be is if you become a Mac, power users member. You will receive an ad free version of the show. And at least once a month, David Noggin me doing extra segment covering the news. You know one thing about Mac power users as we talk about the news here and sometimes we try, but it's kind of a weird fit for our format. So he said look. We can do it for members at least once a month. If stuff's bigger I, think we'll do it more often kind of talking about the news through the Lens of MPU. Yes, and I am super excited that we can bring some extra content, and for those of you that are trying to get through your daily faster, and you don't want to listen to the ads there you go. There's an option for you. Yes, so we will have in the next episode will have directions of how to sign up and everything but kind of onto put on everyone's radar That will start in. July I'm super. Excited me too, and if you don't WanNa, be member. That's okay. We still have the show. You'RE GONNA. Get The ads, but you know we got to pay the bills. The forms are still going to be there. The you know the newsletter. All the stuff we do for Mac power uses GonNa, continue just as before, but if you want to help, support us, when appreciate it, and and you get E-. Bonuses for that? Yeah, nothing about the relief of membership is taking things away. It's about adding new things for member so yep. All right, so sign up, guys. We're going to start that in July, and the Stephen I have some some great ideas and I'm I'm really looking forward to starting that kind of that era of Mac power users. Yeah, buddy, you know I, I haven't said this publicly, but I am so thankful for how great you've been on. The show can I send a nice. A Little Journal era. Things I'm thankful for today. By was thankful Stephen Accurate because you know. We had big transition from Katie to you, and it's just been so seemless, and you've been a great help with the show and all the stuff you do man. It's great having you aboard it's it's so much fun. I cannot believe it's been. A year and a half. But yeah, it's it's so much fun and I really feel super lucky to be year so. Could tell I just got an email from someone saying I really like the new kid. Anyway so ww DC and data. Season is upon us every year. I, I, him in Haw, and I always install all the Betas usually. We don't cover them a lot. Until the we're closer to release, but because of this year that changes are so significant, and people are just so interested in the stuff that Steven and I, both kind of made a point to go a little crazy with Beta installs and we've been using them now for a weekend. I thought it'd be fun to report how these features are working and. And given. This is Betas with some of this stuff could change, but you know. Let's kind of dive in deep on it I will say you've gone a little deeper than I have so the pool right I'm swimming in the pool. You did a cannonball from the top of your house into the deep end. Oh, I did I. Did I I wrote a post in the payers forum saying Hey Steven I've gone a little crazy with the bait. If you've got questions, let us know and a team. Oh, wrote crazy like install watch os Beta. And one of us did I'll give you one guess. Not, me. Like I had actually Rosemary. went in that pool I I said well. Did you watch blow up anything? She says well when I wash my hands at once crash, but otherwise it's been fine, and like you know it and also I feel kind of cavalier this year because I'm home, not traveling. if if my phone gets to messed up I can always unwind. The Beta I'm. Home doesn't matter that much so I. I didn't feel that bad about it, so so let's just Let's list the devices right What have you got? The BETAS installed on, so I've got the Beta on a external SSD that. I'm booting my macbook pro from I, need my fro some later this year, so I'm not willing to put the bait on at directly yet. And running it on my I've had many other. My leverage IPAD PRO is probably going to succumb to it. By the time this episode comes out out of my phone, and the definitely not my Mac pro The this machine is where I make my living, and it will stay on Catalina for some time, but yes. I'm playing with it kind of getting my. Getting in the pool. I spent more time with it on the Max I've got thoughts around that, but. I want to get back. Somebody said a second ago. The interest in Beta cycle is way higher than it normally feels like. And maybe that's because a lot of people aren't home. Life's a little bit slower now. It's because like big Sur in particular is a huge change having we just on your iphone. Who Change like there's a lot of things that are really attractive about these Betas. Wherein some years it's like yeah, it's better, but you know. You can live without it for three more months. Some of the stuff people want to really experience now. Yeah, agreed. And and there is kind of some themes to these Betas as we go through it. In the show today I started with the Beta on my is because I have two IPAD pros because I'm that guy so I started with a on the big IPAD pro and it was running fine, and then it quickly cascaded over a couple of days. And I put it on the laptop, so I had big Sur on the laptop in it on the IPAD. Then suddenly I had it on the second IPAD I had on my own. I also put it on my Mac pro because we have a the way. The recording situation is right now in the sparks headquarters. Has You know there's there's four people living in fifteen hundred square feet and so? My studio isn't really where I'm recording shows where my I MAC PRO is. It's where I do all the edits and all that stuff, but I'm not doing the recording there My old studio has been turned into my daughter's. Daughter's bedroom, but we have an extra in there, and that is the kind of recording machine I'm sitting at it right now, so my fancy Mike and Everything so that one is not upgraded or or running Betas, but but but the all the others should Max. The to Max I own are and then a few days ago I. Put on the watch, too. Because I as I told Rosemary and the automakers. If it breaks, it's her fault. But it's you know so, I, I've been reading on everything. This one thing that you may have heard in the news is these are pretty stable Betas I. think partly because wwe came later. This is more like Beta or Beta three in normal year. That being said do as we say, we do. Don't don't know these. If you need to get your work done Yada Yada Yada Yeah. I, mean they're still developer Betas. At this point, you have to have a developer account. The Public Beta will be in July. That's when they're more widely accessible and usually in the past. At least it's been to developer bills for everyone public Betas so. Developer Beta two or three be public Beta one and there'll be a couple of developer builds and then. A couple more puppets, this sort of tiktok approach, and just because this Betas good doesn't mean the next one will be in fact very often. They get worse before they get better. So yeah, do what we say like. Let us take the pain and you know if you have a spare me, shake my head many if it bursts into flames, that'd be sad, but it's not the end of the world. Then yeah, I think it's fine to play with on that, but definitely out of production machine now something you need for work because you can this situation where the you know, it's always like the one happy really need the one workflow you really depend on. That's the one that's broken for months. That'll get you. Yeah, the the thing that got me with this one was Hazel worked fine tested it before installed it on the second machine, but then. If you're in Hazel and you go to create a rename field. It crashes Hazel every time and I. I sent an email to the developer and I'm sure that will get fixed, but. It releases, but it's like so now. I can't make any Azel rules that change a name for the next several months you know. Things like that is sort of responsibility. You have running a Beta where yeah, you can provide feedback to a developer about. Hey, this isn't. This isn't working, but part of that's on you because you're running the Beta and There's really I don't think any. Any room for like being upset. That APP doesn't work on a no. S, that isn't out yet, so. I would just say kind. Those those developers out there. They're having a busy summer to. We go through this every year and we tell people you know. Be Nice to developers. Give them positive feedback. If you've got like screen, kerosene ability, make us screen cast and show them exactly what broke on the iphone and IPAD that's built in now so it's really easy to give them really great feedback, and you just tell them. Hey, I! AM on the Beta. Beta and I saw this behaviors odd as WANNA. Make sure you knew about it and let them deal with it. What you don't say someone the Beta and I need you to fix this immediately. Because I need this to do my thing well, you know what you put your thing on the Beta, so the don't put demands the people although I always feel like. Does that right? We talk about every year like all these mean people doing that. And I can't believe people actually do that and then. I talked to develop for friends. Are Like Oh yeah people? I mean I I was at WW DC last year sitting next to a developer friend, we were at the State of the Union address, which is about three hours after the keynote, and like one hour after they released the Beta and he showed me an email, he really received while we were sitting in the audience at the State of the Union. From a user demanding that he fixed a bug in the new. Like an hour afterwards, I'm like wow, sometimes people are terrible. The nutmeg power users listeners. They're the best. All right so all the caveats aside, let's dig into these Betas. Yeah, let's start with big Sur. Mac Os Eleven. Yeah, agreed. I'm going to say Mac. Os Ten about a thousand times for I. Get out of my head, but. The big thing years, we've talked about this on our last episode. The design being drastically different at that point we hadn't used it. I've been using it for quite a while now in fact the last week when I'm not at my Mac recording editing I've been using Mac pro on big Sur. And the design. I'm really liking it it. It does take some getting used to. There's a lot of white everywhere I don't like dark modes, amusing and the standard mode. Yeah, you got to kind of get used to. That feels a little bright at first, and I think like we said last time as well. There's definitely some legibility issues and places. But all in all it really two things jump out at me as far as the design a it still feels like Mac Os. It looks runs acts like Mac Os. But the design makes it feel much more in kind with its mobile cousins I think they've done a good job striking the balance between those two things. So let's let's just talk. I mean one of my things about the MAC. Big Sur update is I feel like it's more paint an engine you know your car in, but it's a lot of paint and the overall feel that I've had used because I've been using it on both of my machines now, and it's just feels lighter in. You know however you want to interpret that word. For instance, my usual setup on the twenty seven inch Mac is I usually have with keyboard maestro. I have these scripts that move windows between the left and the right side of the screening. Almost always I have to apps open on both sides of the screen, whereas the on all previous versions of Mac Os. They felt like they were integrated into the operating system, and these feel like they're floating on top of the operating system. Does that make sense? Yeah. You hadn't really thought about that, but yeah I. Think I think it does. It's got the rounded corners. And, so the APPs themselves kind of flow separate where you know, they don't like block in every Pixel with the DOC. Now looking similar to the IPAD dock it just. It's very strange to me because it just feels like a completely different look, and and you get used to it I mean like the joke is. I gave my laptop to my daughter. I'm doing some work on pain. Heard. Manage some stuff for me and And I had the bait on, but he didn't tell her. And I said Hey. Did you notice anything different about that laptop, so she was working in Safari? And she was working in the files APP. which are like completely different? Yeah, and I said. Did you notice anything different? She's like Oh. Yeah, and she had to like you could tell. She was struggling to come up with things she said. The icons are square now Yeah, yeah, the icons I square, so it's funny. I think for some people that even won't stand out, but it is a. it's a different feel and I. Guess that's the only way to put it and I I've never used a MAC. In fact, okay I know old people can get mad at me, people. This reminds me the feel of the original, Mac the floating windows kind of feel like that little classic Mac did to me when I first started using those back in college. Yeah can see that it also uses the rounded corners which you mentioned, which the original Mac had up in the upper corners, and I think it all feels more friendly in a way than the current design does. Look. Can we talk about some of the individual design elements because they're so different? Yeah, let's start at the top with the menu bar. The translucent menu bar now. This was really controversial years ago. they tried to put it on which version of IOS Leopard Okay and like they put it in the Beta, and then they took it out in, and now here it is what do you think about it? I don't love it. I'm using the default wallpaper because using the default wallpapers onto Beta to remind me that it's Beta and it's Ok with the default wallpapers like brightly colorful, but I would imagine that depending on your desktop background. May Be actually really difficult to read and the translucent engine like a lot of this translucence. He stuff is handled pro grammatically, and it seems like. On the default wallpaper it makes makes the minibar items white. Like over on the right hand side is really hard to read it. All feels too low contrast to me. And Yeah, you can go into accessibility and like turn the transparency off. That has other trade offs so I would like them. I'd like to see them. Make the menu bar more legible. APP Developers are getting to work on their menu icons with this. Now that we've got transparent in some, don't the aren't faring well with this Beta, and I'm assuming a bunch of people are probably working on it. Already I think by default. They need to show up as white, but some apps have hard coded them to be black. Yeah, and then, when you have a translucent menu bar with a gray background and black menu icons that is not good. So I switched to the to the default wallpapers well, which helps but. I feel like. I won't really know until we're done, you know. Tell the same ships in the fixed, but it doesn't bother me, though as I remember a lot of people losing their mind with back in the leopard days and I, honestly I. Don't look at the menu bar that much. It's fine, yeah! I'll have a lincoln. The show notes. I've pulled out the wallpapers. And so if you are not running the Beta. You can download the. The Big Sur wallpapers what he think of the wallpaper for big Sur I love the colored version. So there's there's to the default is like this colored way thing. It was an Iowa wallpaper. And the secondary one is sort of the more traditional like California landscape photo. I like the colorful one. I think that I. Think the reason they're using that. As the default is to show off the transparency more so than what you would see, the remains of the old like Tiger wallpaper days. You know where they had the. The blue shapes yeah, it's more colorful. Yeah, it's. It's guy, blue and pink and orange, yellow and white. It's it's really nice, and there's a dark mode version. That's nice too. I think they're doing that. Really show off what they're doing in the sidebars and everything. And also big service, surrounded by foothills and grew up in California. Maybe this is just the inner artist and me. This reminds me of looking at foothills in California, which we have everywhere, so maybe that's the inspiration. I don't know all right, so we talked about the menu bar when you open APPs. There's two things that really stand out number. One is the toolbar are bigger. And arear, and then you've got this sidebar now. That runs top to bottom. It cuts off the toolbar, so whereas in prior versions of Mac APPs are always went all the way across the top. All the all the left to right pixels were given to the toolbar. Now all the top to bottom pixels are given to the sidebar in the toolbar bumps into that right. It's a strikingly different look, because it breaks the metaphor that the Maqassad forever with the toolbar encompasses the entire top of the window. But it does feel more modern fits better with what's going on. Irs and I think in practice. Like it was weird to me the first day, and now like if I'm in male word, saly noticeable. I don't really think about it anymore. Yeah, agreed, it's agreed. It's not like it is quite different, though it striking and I know some people are going to hate it, and some people are going to love it, but everybody's going to have an opinion on. The icons. We've talked about that a little bit airy as I said that was the one thing, my daughter noticed. I I'll tell you. The icons are the one thing that really ha haven't got used to it, yeah. They added a third like a depth like a three-dimensionality to them, and some of them work better than others the the the flowing around twitter, but the worst one by far is the battery icon and system preferences is straight up hideous. But in this may be something that they toned down a little bit overtime, or we're just going to get totally used to it and move on with their lives to will happen. I'm more saddened by the loss of. The different shapes like basically. According to the big human interface guidelines which are having the show notes. They are talking about consistent. Shapes like round routed wrecked front, facing perspective, consistent Drop Shadow, which Ziva different from a couple of years ago, and they said Hey, we kind of have two or three different styles. There will still be APPs third party APPS that don't conform to this but I think a lot of them will change over time and. Cool Mac iconic part of the platform right? It's part of the personality of the MAC and that's a little sad to see kinda flattened out. Yeah as we record this I'm looking at an old in the met the recording Mac and I'm looking at like the safari in the mail icon and I'm looking over at this big Sur machine and They're just not as distinctive. You know one of the one of the ways you could identify icons in the past was shape you know. Like, the logic is a record, but it's tilted to the left, and that always helps me like find. It exists and so you lose that with this. I I don't think I'm not hell bent against it, but I I think it feels like a regression to me, but and I am big I'm going to be curious to see how many developers get on board. And how many are like? No, we're keeping our cool icon. Yeah, yeah, it's not enforce that you have to move to. This is just highly suggested. So in general I guess we cover kind of the main user interface. What do you think overall overall? I liked the direction. I mean we're really in my mind, nitpicking details, but I think on the whole. Change like that. It feels more modern I think it will serve apple really well as IOS APPS continued to make their march onto the Max beaches and so yeah I. I'm a Fan. I give it a thumbs up. Just in six months there's GonNa. Be Macro sale that you're going to have this operating system next to IPAD and IPHONE APPS YEP and I think they are going to look fine together to and I think that's one of the reasons. They did this I also like We didn't mention like in the menu bar items. There's more space between the injuries there's. There's there's like an arena to this and you know we talked last week about why we think that area, and is able to talk about this a little bit more today, but whether or not we get touch Max touchscreen Max I kinda like menu bars with a little more space between the words I. I kinda like just the the arenas of this look. And I was ready for change so it. It definitely makes my My Catalina Mac old. Almost immediately it does that. Anyway! In terms of broken things with the Beta in this is early so obviously there's a lot of broken things, but the things that have stood out for me is all the male plug ins. Don't work. That's always the case. If you rely on plug, ins do not install a Beta on your computer. I talked about the little hiccups with Hazel, but in general. My apps of work all the stuff I use for production on me. Focus drafts Microsoft word all that stuff just worked for me. I haven't had any problems the biggest one for me and this is a difference in how you and I work is. DROPBOX doesn't work on it. Really. Good for me. So I've been using dropbox on the web, which I prefer to have it installed I. Use it enough. With the trade offs, but again it's the first couple of weeks and I'm sure dropbox. We'll have a BETA or they'll. They'll just patch it and and be on their way so. Yeah, that's that's why we say. Don't put this on a production machine. Because for me, my production with other people revolves around dropbox, and I don't have it on my laptop anymore. Well, you know what that dropbox fixed may not be trivial because I believe they still use a kernel extension for all the stuff they do. I think they do, but the the kernel extension stuff hasn't changed between Catalina and big Sur for Intel MACs. If I was on a Mac, it'd be different so. It should still run the way that it did in fact I had a couple of other apps with colonel extensions throat. The permission dialogue like Hey, can we? Can we do our thing, so yeah I mean. Hopefully they'll get their. The APP doesn't even watch, so there's something there's something going on there. Before we move on, we talked about this last week, but I feel like I have to mention it again. I'm even more convincing. I was two hours after watching the presentations last week. That touchscreen Max coming. Year. Boy I agree the more I think about it. The more I use big Sur. The more I read into the changes that are coming. With the are Max. I I believe touches. Come into the Mac I, with all my heart, it's like I went back and watched the the state of the Union and when they were, they were playing a game, an Iowa game on a Mac and the lake. See how we can do it with a mouse and the way that even like the inflection. And you now it's really you know reading tea leaves, but it just felt like they were just too clever. It's like of course. There's a million APPs were about to put on your device that were all designed for touch. Of course, it's going to support touch. Yeah, and I think that the inside of had since we talked about this last. Is that you know? I always thought they'll never put touch on the MAC because they'd have to read engineer the entire operating system. And I felt like a wait a second. What if you decided? We don't have to touch on a MAC that we don't need touch to work on all the classic Mac APPs you know. You know if you're going to open logic, you're gonNA need to use your track pad or your mouse to really make it work right, but we're still going to have touch on there, and by the way there's a million I. Listen. IPAD APPS that land touch that we're GONNA make available to you it just I feel like they've. They're giving us just enough. Touch friendliness in the air phase with the larger toolbar larger menu bars that we can use touch, but they're not building as a touch operating system that makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. I'm an agreement with that. All right. I'm closing the lid on my laptop, okay? This episode of the Mac power users is brought to you by one password, my favorite solution for managing passwords on my Mac you can set it up yourself. GO TO ONE PASSWORD DOT COM SLASH NPR in all caps to get twenty percents off. 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You can make a mind map absolutely with your pencil in my note, and it feels really it feels really right. You know mind mapping with a pencil it. It just seems to work everywhere. One of my favorite waste use the IPAD is what I call the daily shutdown at the end of the day I. Want to kind of wrap the day up in a way that makes sense so I can start the next day without having the finish the last day. And my goal for this is actually i. have a couch in my backyard little. Couch in the backyard, go out there with the dog. Sit there with an ipad in do the daily shutdown plan. Miami focused tasks for the next day. You know deal with any small email issues that remain outstanding, maybe even journal the day, a little bit and using an ipad with a pencil and voice to text recognition, no keyboard. and. That feels a lot more possible with this Beta. l., it's cool about the pencil. Stuff is that it's built into pencil kit so any APP that has taken advantage of the stock. I just want applicants support my APP and they're customizing it. They get all the stuff for free. So you get the thing where you draw a circle becomes a really Nice Circle. You can write enter text anywhere and the thing that I have found myself really enjoying his have the Beta on my ipad mini the he's like a great little size for like a digital notebooks. Daily logs every day. I've been recently doing them handwriting them. In the last couple of days have been doing them a good notes and and the apple notes APP just like kind of comparing things and. I really like using the pencil on this little baby ipad. Yeah, and all these APPs are going to have will support for this when it comes out, but most of them were already another one that I use all the time is Omni focus and I can now just write down a new task in the Omni focus new task bar and it it turns it in. Also pretty amazed at how good a job at does at the recognition. I do not have right. I gave up handwriting in like Fifth Grade. So that's just never been a thing for me. I remember when I took the bar exam. It's this three day test. You GotTa take the lawyer at one point. It was a few years ago so. One way they would try to confirm its use heavy. Do a handwriting exemplar. And I'm the middle of the three day tests. I'm totally stressed out and I have to write handwriting which I haven't done since fifth grade and I'm like. How do you make a cursive q? I, don't remember. But anyway so I print and usually I print block caps, but the handwriting on this it's better if you print with upper and lower case letters, you know if you printing block APPs, it's going to try and make them caps but so you know so my lower case. Letters aren't as a natural to me. Sometimes they come out a little a little wobbly, but it always seems to get it right and And like I said last week I was really impressed with the engine. Did you try out all the tools? They have like to scratch out and insert. You worked with those tools. Yeah, it's fantastic, so if you're writing something and it does MIS translate it. which I found happened not very often. It seems very intelligent, but if it does, you can just like, you wouldn't have paper notebook, or on a Newton back in the day scribbled through the word and deletes it, or you can tap on the word, and you get the standard Iowa's controls for replacing the spell check interface, so it treats it as text you can even, and this is wild to me. Say, you're in Apple, notes or another at the support this you can then select handwriting. Just like you select text and. So it's not. A drawing. It is actual text in your handwriting I. Mean It's amazing, and then if you pasted into a textile, it pace text. Pets. It's awesome, but. You we always talk about how ww DC gives you hints at what's coming, and there has been a rumor now for about six months that there is a new ipad mini coming. That's going to be more like an IPAD pro which would mean it. Has Apple Two Pencil Support Maybe it's a little bigger and I. Feel like this feature makes that product so much more interesting. Little digital notebook. You could have with you everywhere. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, so get good. Good on you apple. Well. You know usually when it's something that comes out of Cupertino. There aren't a lot of hints that it's coming. But it feels like this is real. Mature doesn't feel like Beta to me now my my guess is this has been in the works for a really long time, and and what is cool about it is that if you already have pencil, you just get it right so maybe you picked up a pencil for drawing or just to check it out well now. The hardware you already have is. Way More useful. That's pretty cool. I get that that doesn't happen all the time. It technology and it's also jarring to me. How available it is everywhere in! You want to go and safari and right in the oral bar. You a search. Just write it in. And you're not always GONNA WANNA. Do that, but if you're sitting on the couch with the Pencil, it feels a lot more natural, just righted as opposed to you know. pull up the keyboard and tap away I Don. I am finding myself using it quite a bit. I think once it becomes second nature to me I'm GONNA use it even more. The mode switching stuff and they just takes a little getting used to. Kind of following the theme of a lot of paint in no engine, the actual changes to fundamental apple APPs is very small. Yeah did not get a share button. Didn't even like one of the things one of my quibbles with male. Has Been that like I use a flagging system on Ios to kind of like flag mail for for dealing with it and usually deal with it on the MAC on we. We just did a show that recently. But apple mill on. And IPAD OS does not split the flags for you know it's like if I have thirty items flag, but only a couple of them have the priority flag, and some of them have a priority flag. It's just gonNA. Put them all in one bucket. and. It'll show me the colors, but it's not going to say well. Here's your priority flags. And I thought well. Maybe that'll get fixed this year. It's been a year. No! Yet Stevenson off ski did a thread on twitter. I will put a link in the show notes, and he's the guy who did hardware and software engineering at Microsoft. He had a big job there for a long time. He's kind of a well respected guy. And it was very complimentary of Apple, and just talking about how much discipline it takes an accompanied to pull off what they've done I mean when you think about it. They've turned their whole hardware system into their own silicon system on a chip. You know this apple silicon is going to drive their entire product line, which is going to have so many huge benefits for them company-wide money better power better price, better control everything and he was just kind of remarking at how hard that would be to do. And one of the points he made one of specific tweets was this shows a company? That's willing to sacrifice. You know the day to day stuff in order for the bigger picture in one of the specific examples used was they don't fix things in mail. You know and I'm thinking he must be using and I always device because he knows that there's just. Waiting and melon, and so he kind of felt like he was kind of. Telling me. You know hey dave. It's OK sharing button. They just turned their entire platform to one. You know so. We're con, but they could have like snuck in an extra hour for flag sorting. Yeah, I agree. It's also not the same people designing ships. Anyways, I cut so I installed airmail again I. Mean I'm just. And then it immediately put like six folders that I didn't want. That's it's like. A for another day. I WANNA. Talk about calendar. Yeah, another stock APP that is basically the same except. There is a new date pickers. IRS forever has had the date picker that looks like the the tumblers. Yeah, scrolling wheels, you see in a casino or something, and that's still president of the IPHONE, but on the IPAD you now getting much more MAC like date picker. Which also means that Matt? Matt Catalyst APPs gives us new date picker, so we've complained in the past about home app on the Mac, which is built with Matt Catalyst to set a date and time like using this very ipad touch interface that makes no sense with the cursor, and so this new date and time picker is going to migrate across to this catalyst APPs as well, so yeah, not a super exciting piece of you I like. Date Picker, but boy glad to see it. It will also just kind of demonstrates thinking forward. Because the whole world is going to change in six months when there's a Mac that can run your iphone and IPAD APPS on it. I mean I. Don't think. US nerds kind realize how big of deal that is like. My Wife's laptop is sold that it won't won't take updates anymore. In the speakers of stop working like it's starting to get pretty creaky and. I don't know if it's a battery swelling thing or whatever her? She has to press on her track pad with superhuman strength. That's definitely a battery swelling you. By third precare. You know so so she's going to need a new one but I told her weight because I said you know they're going to have one hopefully by the end of the year that you can run iphone apps and she's like what I mean. That was amazing to her. It's like she never gets excited about tech stuff like I do, but she was. She was. She was like she was planning which APPs she would have on her neck. So I think it's going to be a big deal when it happened. So you getting the date picker? Right? Getting all that underlines stuff done. It's GonNa. Make sense now. You're not going to see that change in existing APPs until they update for the new date picker. This isn't something that just comes automatically across the board. Whereas the Pencil support works pretty much everywhere right now. It's cool, really cool. All right can I give you a brief update on the files APP. Yes, you use it way more than I do so. I'm I'm I'm sitting down. Now it's it's. It's a little better. Okay, it's not as much better as I'd like it to be the If you search, it will search tags, which is great if you go to pick a tag. It's still doesn't have a search bar for. SPO-. I have like four hundred tags because I like I have tags or categories of work. I have a tag for each client and. If I want to tag a file for a client. I still have to scroll through a list of four hundred to find the right one. I still have the same problem, whereas I'm scrolling if I'm too fast with the Scroll Swipe, measuring becomes a touch tagged the file with something. But we'll just kept spending. I tagged it with I. Mean All those problems are still there? I feel like. The long wait for better tagging is still not there on IOS. Sorry Yeah. Sorry Stability overall. What do you think? It's pretty good. I haven't had any apps that doing things silly like crash at launch, but again it's just on my IPAD, so it's it's a subset of the upset I use on. My phone seems pretty solid. Yeah same thing all the APPS that I. do my work on. Have worked I. Haven't had anything crash I haven't had any strange resets and I'm still just marveling at this pencil support. It's like I'm finding new uses for it every day and Overall good and then we got the stuff on the talk about that separately, but you know the you know the widgets on the home screen and and stuff like that is cool to a. we talked about last week. I do wish that the widgets would be in more places than just the left side. which you can move around agreed, and I am not super, I mean it could change in the Beta, but. I want them to, but I'm not positive they will. I think they may be locked over there to that side for a while. And wants third party developer. Start making their own widgets. It's going to be super tempting to want more on the screen, Oh, yeah! Yes, we'll, we'll see if they get freed from. That left hand column. I think honestly the widgets make more sense on the IPAD to be anywhere you want them to be. The I've had also doesn't have the APP library. Thing that's on the phone and I think it makes more sense on the phone IPAD, but I like it to be an option on the IPAD as well for those of us. Who Want it? Yeah, I agree, but everything seems to be working. I mean like I said this is Yonder theme of paint and no engine I. Don't think there's a lot of fundamental underlying changes here, except of course, the pencil thing. Which seems to be rock solid so it. It just seems to be running real clean as a Beta and. I'm happy with it to. This episode of Mac. Power users is brought to you by our friends at Cotton Bureau. 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B of sparks headquarters. Yeah, so I'm just throwing them on her bed. Got I've cut like like a magician. I've got different devices coming out. That you did not loaded on your phone. Right I have not so. I want to hear how it's gone for you. You will do well I'm going to do it like as we. Should still right now. It may be done by the the show's over. Yeah Stephen just slow to. Even it's okay. It's a bad influence. Your home would you going to do because you can reinstall it anyway? Yeah, so I was fourteen. Let's start with a widgets. Okay, because I it's the most distinct thing. It's my daughter. I put the Iowa seven Bayed on her phone years ago, and that cured her of any desire for Betas ever again i. My story about that. No, Iowa seven I've told it somewhere forgiving. If you've heard it, but Iowa seven was the first WBZ ever went to. It's twenty thirteen. and. Mike Hurley had bought an ipod touch to put the Beta on, but I didn't do that as a glock. My phone here I'll just put Iowa seven on my phone. While I'm in California And the phone didn't make it through my first flight home before he died, it was like losing more percentage of battery admitted or something. Really, rough, and you know so. I got home and put it in D.. If you mode I was six back on it, it didn't run the Beta again, but. You know that's the price. You pay sometimes for early Betas so but I've I've run it since everyone Betas, since then normally normally what I do is sometime the end of July early August. Usually what I'll do is I'll have my phone. My Mac on the developer builds and put my phone on the public. Beta and that may be what I follow this year, but I don't sell it to me. Talk me into this. No, it's just it's just really fun and the I just wanted. Wanted to play it. The widgets and I knew we're going to record this show and I felt like somebody had to take for the team so I. Put it on for your work, so the widgets They're really cool, and that makes a lot of sense. Normally you have what traditions called the today you screen to the left side of your screen, and now it's going to be these widgets, and you can to access them or create them. You just put your phone into jiggle mode in UH. The edit screen mode, and then if you go over there, there's a plus button. You can add what. Apple's got a bunch of Bilton ones ranging from shortcuts to you know calendars, the photos and just a bunch of different ones they built. It makes all the old school which it's look a little odd. They still work sort of but I think developers are going to have to kind of really rebuild their widgets to fit into this new-look. Yeah, I've got some info on that. If we want to get into it, yeah, so the the new widget style is a totally new system. They're built in swift you, I and these new widgets are no longer interactive, so say the timer shortcut or the time religious before you could start and stop timeless from it. Now in this new system, all that would do as launch time Ari. The only exception to that is shortcuts. You can't have the shortcuts which it still fire shortcuts that still interactive, but. These new widgets you just have them and they open the APP so they're more about display as opposed to interaction, I think that's something that may change next year or the year after so yeah, they look nicer and I. Think they look great, but they are not maybe as useful. If you really did a lot of interaction with your wages before. Yes, that's a regression in the sense that you can't run the APP from the widget, but it's progress in the sense that it's dynamic display on your home screen. So like the photos changes you put on your screen. The calendar shows your calendar for the day, but even then if you watch the session on this, the big challenge was we don't want your killing the battery to keep a widget updated on the screen, so they that's one of the reasons why it has to be swift you. Y and it has limited resources to go poll new information. So, as an example, we normally record Makarios Eleven am today we delayed it by thirty minutes, and so I moved on the calendar on my Mac and then I looked down at my phone like twenty minutes later in. It still showed my widget on my home screen as eleven o'clock. It's still showed it had an updated. And then at some point you know in the next ten minutes is updated itself, so you're not getting like immediate updates of dynamic information, but you are getting updates and the calendars where I think it affects you the most you know. If you're relying on that and things are changing, you may not have up to date information. All that being said it sure is nice looking at my home screen, and having my calendar laid out for me for the rest of the day I thought I shared my home screen. I'll put it in the show so I was going. Have even share is too, but I forgot that you haven't put your phone on the Beta. Watch share your IPAD. And if you put your phone on between now and the time of release I'm just saying. It's. Interesting that they've made this change of the widgets behind the scenes. They actually work like Apple Watch complications. Where the at like sins a silent edification to the widget and you know maybe the calendar one just needs to send it more often or is not doing something in the background, but I expect that the especially the system ones will run much smoother. The furthest Beta goes yeah, I expected. It's probably a Beta thing that in the future it may not update immediately, but I want to twenty minutes. There stackable to that's something wasn't really clear from the keynote, but once you start playing with it, and you can just set stacks of them, so the very top quadrant of my computer has a stackable, which it, so it's. An icon parlance. It's four across by two down. It's taken that much space. and. I've got my calendar. I've got battery status of them. Let Me Swipe through I've got a screen with for shortcuts and their the four like launching shortcuts. Shortcuts we talk about this and auditors time, but you can make like a choose from menu shortcut, so it's like a shortcut to to rule. All shortcuts got basically four, though so I can launch any shortcut from home screen. And my health data and podcasts and the music, so I can just kind of swipe through those and pick what I want, but I've also got. It turned on to give me what it thinks I want during the period of the day, and never been used in a few days, but it seems to be doing pretty good in general it. It leans towards calendar through the day, but since block scheduler there's a lot of events on my calendar and the evening. It seems to lean towards photos, which is kind of fun to look at it night and see a picture of your kids or something. So overall, it's been pretty good and I didn't finish earlier. When you're building these things on basically the debate today screen use drag it to the right, and it goes on to your home screen, and you can move things around and it. You can put them anywhere. On the bottom where the top it's, it's not like traditional icon APP icons where they just by default go to the top left corner and start filling in. obviously gives you less room for APP icons on screen, so you have to kind of way that. but overall once again. The widgets have been pretty stable had a lot of problem. I have noticed the loss of functionality some of the traditional today view which it's like the Omni focused one and some others would use. You could actually perform axed in them, and now you can't. I was hoping for a little more flexibility in terms of the way, the widgets the by cons. Sort of worked with each other, the it's still basically flows down from the top, so it's not like android where you can basically put them wherever you want. But at the same time apple's done a pretty good job of having multiple sizes and layouts for all of their own, and I would expect. Parties will follow that as well. Yeah, I mean bit for instance I have I have to on my home screen, and with the one is across the top, and the second one is to the right so there are icons to the left of it. You'll see it in the show notes. So, you can kind of have fun with it, but it also feels to me like about how far apple would go with home screen widgets. You know it's not going to go crazy. one thing I wanted to point out is an accessibility feature actually and it is, it's really. Really, just captured captured my attention. where I s can be used to listen to things around you and you could turn them on and off. Some of these animals are a siren, an animal sound car horn, a doorbell water, running baby crying, and if your phone thinks that it here's those things, it will send you a notification and I've got family members with. Pretty severe hearing loss in some other people I know and. It is sort of dangerous world for some people and this I liked the idea of the iphone, which is probably going to be with you most of the time, anyways. Listening out for these things being useful including you into the things around you. Apple just continues to crush with accessibility. Another accessibility feature that has captured me and I made a video about it. We'll put it in. The show. Notes is back backed-up, so they've added an accessibility trigger. You know there's always been several of them. It used to be like if you triple tap the home button, but there's no home button anymore, but now they made it that. If you just tap the back of your phone. Two Times or three times that can be an accessibility trigger, so if you WANNA turn on any accessibility feature, you can double tap or triple tap. And it works, but. Even. Cooler, for nerds like me is, you can also use that to trigger shortcut. And you know like you could say when I show up to work double. TAP The back of my phone and you know maybe displays a certain calendar and changes the playlist and you know does whatever you want to shortcuts, but I kept thinking well. What if you know? Let's make this even simpler. I made a shortcut. A one step shortcut says launch camera. And so now if I I use that, the trigger of two taps on my phone to run the shortcut to launch the camera APPs, so if I just tap my phone two times. The camera APP launches. And then I made another one is toggle the flashlight. So tap my phone three times, toddlers flashlights. If you get up at night to go the bathroom triple, tap your phone and the flashlight turns on. When you get back to bed triple. TAP it again. The flashlight turns off. It's kind of cool, but if there's any APP in your life that you launch frequently, and you'd like to make a double tap launch once you get this installed in your phone. It's it's really easy. I did A. In the screen cast, I showed how you build it. It's it is the world's simple shortcut. It's a one step shortcut y'all I'm looking forward to that. The flashlight is what I thought of immediately when I saw this feature so I'm glad to know that it's easy to set up. The Harry Potter Lummus Feature. But but the trick there is Taga flashlight. You know by default when you have to shortcut with flashlight wants to. Turn it on or turn it off. If you tap on that and shortcuts you can. Actually, there's a setting for toggle 'cause you want to be able to turn it off the same way right, but that's really kind of getting in the weeds a little bit. We haven't even talked about this new system for innovation on the home screen. And that is a little cool in a so you know as they showed in the keynote, we all have a lot of APPS and Craig was right once you get past the second or third screen. It doesn't make any difference. Right you just. It's just madness. Sure so they've got this APP. Library and auto creates Yap. Library the way you get it. It is you keep scrolling to the right to get your last page and you see the library. It's built by default and the The categories make sense the way they display the absence great so in each cube is like a four icon cube. They've got the three primary APPs and I guess they're picking those by the amount that you use them. And taking you know the. The two upper slots in the lower left spot in the lower right spot has for even smaller icons for the next four APP she used in that category, and there's a search field at the top, so if you don't know where it landed, you can just quickly search for it. Exactly and. What a so the way I installed! It was actually went through. And there's no way to do this except one app time unfortunately, but when you're like editing your home screen, you have the ability to add an APP to library and basically remove it from a screen, so it's just in the library. And I removed all of the APPs to the library except enough to fill what's left on my home screen after the widgets on and one additional screen. And I was able to get by me the APPS. I really really WANNA have quick access to fit within those two screens and everything else in the library, and I feel like my home screen is so much better organized now. Yeah! I'm looking forward to that I'm. I've got three pages. The last one was all folders and most of those folders are multiple pages deep and I would love to be able to kind of stop thinking about that. I. I think this is fine I mean the only problem would be I guess if there was an APP that you can remember the name of so you can search it, but with the given categories. It's easy enough to find them Now can you make your own categories or is it all automated by? The Meta data on the APPS. I'm tapping wildly as we speak, I, don't see any way to create my own category, okay? I guess that makes sense because they want you not worry about it. I was just thinking like gotta stash all my folders I. have now in there, but that makes sense. Yeah, you. Kinda gotta let go and let it take control I guess. Categories, like recently added. If you've got APPs, download, and I I've got it set. So it saves new APPs to apply Bray without putting them on my home screen so nice. Looking recently added Social Productivity Entertainment Creativity Reference Utilities. Test Flights I've got a bunch of Beta. APPS, lifestyle, health and Fitness Education Games Apple Arcade Games are two separate ones. If you're an apple arcade, get those separately and other, so it's easy enough. Oh, and then I forgot to mention if you scroll all the way down, it gives you just a listing of all your apps in alphabetical order, so you could scroll through the entire list, which in my case would take quite a while. I have too many APPS. Me Do. Yeah so I think that's a nice take. It's I mean I guess it's enough I think this is a good step, and let's just see how it goes. Is App Management as big of a problem for most people, as it is for the nerds of us that download so many apps. I don't know you hear stats out the average number of APPs. A person downloads in a month I think is less than one, but also I think people just let their phones fill up and they don't worry about it like. I mean I've got close family members who still have like flashlight APPs and no matter how many times I tell them you can just do it from control center. ZAPPA does it's like Oh, well. Maybe people don't clean off their phones. I need to get my My Wife's phone and do some testing of Siri side by. Just to see it feels dictation feels better to me I mean. We talked I did a live test last week and I've continued to use Siri. Dictation I've turned off a voice control, or you know just temporarily and just trying to use Siri dedication near the microphone icon on your keyboard. It feels better. I need to run some tests on it and I just haven't had time yet to see if the timer has increased, and and some of the things but I I do think that they're making progress here. I don't know that they're necessarily equal to Google or dragon at this point, but it does feel like they're putting some wood behind the Arrow problem. Thank you set the right seen would be handy era. 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Pricing plans start as low as four dollars a month. Check it out same box dot com slash NPR and thank you same box for all your support of the Mac users. So up next is watch os which I definitely have not to. Through my phone under the bed, okay? My phone. Okay, now I'm down to one thing on my wrist just to watch. Yeah, just to watch all right. It's great you know I. It's the most stable watch Beta I've ever had. I usually install watch betas toward the end, and they're still kind of creaky. after two days of us. I've had no unexpected crashes. It's it's working. Fine does all the usual watch things I've been doing sleep tracking. In fact, let's start with sleep tracking. You know there's been a bunch of APPs that do this now. Apple's doing it. They build it into the watch. Apple did it in their apple. Either way you know, there's not a ton of data, but it is really clean. The way collects data on. You I really like the Sleep Watch face 'cause I used to do this crazy thing where I'd go to bed. I had specific face that I had chosen was a very light blue face. I could read it night without like lighting up the room, but I'd have to put my watch into theater mode, so when I tossed and turned, it didn't lighter for my wife, and so now all that stuff is just taking care of for me. I've put in my tell. I've told the out the health APP I WANNA get eight hours of sleep a night and I need to wake up at six. So what we need to do, and now it's starting Deli. Nudge me towards bed, so I get to bed on a good time and. and it puts the watch into that face automatically when it's bedtime, I don't have to manually do anything I could even add shortcuts so if I wanted to add like a like like was dark. Noise that up that. You know you have a play storm for thirty minutes. If I want through my home pod room I could, I can get really fancy with this change. The lighting whatever and all of this is just happening in the background, but the face of you at night is great, and you have to tap it to see it in the middle I. I think it's it's great. It seems really well thought through. It's not as Featured as some of those third party. APPs factor. We're GONNA talk about that on our next episode, but it is enough to cover most people and I think even little features like the when the watches fully charged. We'll send you a push notification on your phone like they're building in those things to make sleep tracking with a single watch a little easier because you've got to charge it. Said some point during the day and you don't it off your wrists too long, so they're trying to make this as easy as possible. Giving given the current constraints at the watch. Yes, so. One other point I wanted to make about it. Is that the Waking up with a vibration on your a really great alarm, you know it's not jarring, and it doesn't wake up the person next to you I. I've been using a watch during sleep for a while and I've always used. Even though there's a lot of great alarm APPS, and they make great sounds. I've always used the built in watch alarm because I did want that tap when wake up my wife, but now that's built into. That's just one additional point. One make getting back to the The data collection it seems good enough for me. Like I had a fitful sleep last night. Don't need explain why but I did. And it was like five hours and forty two minutes I'm looking my watch morning. I'm like yeah, that sounds about right. And just collecting that in the background. We also got a new krona graph a pro. We got some new faces. KRONA PRO is an update to the existing chronic graft face. the old krona graph as the watch face that I've never used. You know I mean. It's just too dense in for. The buttons are way too small for fifty year old is to actually read. I really liked the look. New One I'm not sure that I'll ever use it one of the things they did that. I didn't realize is it's got you can change the colors on it, and the outer rim has these muted colors, so I'm wearing. Olive closed that day I can put the Allah face looks Kinda cool. But. I'm not sure I'M GONNA. Ever release it. I've used the California watch face. Sit came out, and I've got a customized enough that that it works for me so I'd still want more from watch faces. I still would have liked to see third party. Watch faces, but little by little apples making it more flexible. Yeah, I changed through watch faces a lot the California faces when I probably use the most but I also really like the INFO graph modular. And one of the things we got with. This release is the ability to add shortcuts to your widgets or your complications, so put opinion that I wanna come back and talk about that, but this we're on this subject faces. I also really liked the utility face. You know the old starter. And I think this is better. I need to look at another watch but I think this actually got a little better with this release like it now wraps the words across the bottom and the icon seem to fiddle better. You WanNa talk about shortcuts, though on the Apple Watch yes, so this is a a new thing. You can now have your available to you. When you're not here. But I was disappointed to see your note that all shortcuts are sent to the watch by default. This is kind of the shortcut with that we have now. It's like every time. I make sure I don't need it in the widget like I, can put it there if I need it, but. Well Yeah So Short Rosanna. If you're interested in jerk, has Rosemary Orchard and I did a whole hour show on these Betas and automation in the episode of autumn. Years is going to release just a few days after this one, so go check out automakers and you get a whole hour on it, but. The short version on the shortcuts out there is now a button on every shortcut. The says add to watch. And somebody had apple had the choice. To say let's make the default at that is turned off. Or make the default at that is turned on. And that person chose to say the default is that it is turned on and let's say you're someone like me. Who has hypothetically like four hundred shortcuts and I just now have a list of four hundred shortcuts on my watch. And I really want for you know just like on the phone home screen I. WanNa get to those kind of menu bar shortcuts it. Get me to the shortcuts. I want are even less than that on the phone. Maybe there's just like I. Want to turn off the lights and there's just a couple that I really need here. I have to go through and unchecked like four hundred shortcuts. That's. I'm not doing it in in Beta one because I have this feeling that if I do Beta one, I'll get to like Beta three, and they'll all be checked again. You know so I don't. I'm not a fan of that There's just not a good way to solve that problem. On Short circuits as well when we're talking about putting the shortcuts on the widget the trick there as you can now add folders shortcuts. Ages create a folder call widget in that way. You just display the ones that you put into the widget folder anyway. This is cool, but it's unusable to me until I can get. This problem sorted out and once I get it sorted out I think I'm going to have like one to to manage my studio lighting and one two for the going to bed routine and I'm just GonNa have I'm not going to have all my shortcuts on wrist, but there'll be a couple that I would really like to have my wrist. Going to be a few that really are beneficial there. Most of them are applicable. At all on, but there'll be a few that I think you so if everybody. Editing the watch faces, the user interfaces changed. It's just a little easier to understand now and there's buttons and like when you're selecting through colors, it gives you a scrolling list of the colors, tiny dots down the right side of the screen. So if you're looking for beige, you know how far away from your. I think in general. Those are all big improvements. Running multiple widgets I haven't done much of it yet because it's brand new in the Beta. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, so that's where one APP could set multiple complications on the watch face right now. It's one APP one complication. I sent an email to David, Smith saying I'm one of the crazy ones I can test your ups. That's right. You know something I felt kind of you know just looking through all the watch faces. The extra large watch face now has a single complication under, and it's kind of cool looking like if you could. If you just really wanted the time, and like the weather or the time, and whatever single complication. Lot better looking face now. Yeah I think it is also picking complications as better like it'll show. You chose them by APP, but then has can have multiple complications under the APP so like the calendar one can say show me the date the weaken. The Width Day of the week in the month or show me my next appointment. No, so it. It's just making things more user-friendly. This is all kind of leading up to I. Would I would assume is going to be an avalanche of APPs with multiple complications in the next few months. so they're ready for that, but something made me a little sad looking through all my watch faces was the Siri face. Remember when that was such a big deal. And it feels like it's been kind of abandoned. Does I still believe in? You Siri face coming apple about every six months. I think I'm going to try to use this again and it just never sticks. Yeah me, too. Well The the big news is I think an what's again. We're tell you not to install this stuff, but I have really gone in. Cannonball deepened. And nothing's blown up and my work is largely still getting done. That's. That's great to hear me. There have definitely been years where that's not possible and hope that it holds up for you as as goes on because. I'm not having all the way and yet, but. It's there if you want to, and like you said if you have a device, that's not critical to your workflow. It's fun to play with new stuff. Stephen all the listeners right Nara thinkin. Man Steven Great, but I wish he'd just commit for the audience and just install the. Or they're thinking. One of our podcast host has gone. Wild with the stuff. and. The other one is being responsible. I think is the I. I think it's the I. I think they need to commit right now to just install the iphone Beta. We'll see. All right well either way. We are the macari. Just we will hear next week. What happened with Steven and his iphone? By only have you noticed even that I've been sending you a lot more? Me Emojis Oh. Yeah, it's endless. It's a parade of them. I realized last week I've been letting you down and I need to be the memo g person in your life so and now I can send them from my Mac, so it's even easier great. All right so we'll see what happens next week gang. If you want to become a member, we'd really appreciate it. GET THAT AD free version starting in July to sign up. We didn't say that earlier. 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#B113 (betaine to bethel)

The Dictionary

10:05 min | 7 months ago

#B113 (betaine to bethel)

"Hello words welcome to this episode of the PODCAST. It's not yesterday's episode. It's not tomorrow's episode. It is this episode. We are going to have a lot of Beta words again Yeah so let us talk about them. The first word is Beata Eugene. I think that's how it's pronounced. B. E. T. A. I n. e. e. The pronunciation guide says bt which is hard to say it is a noun from eighteen. Seventy five a sweet crystalline coronary ammonium. Salt C Five h eleven n to obtained especially from sugar beets. Also it's hydrate or its hydrochloride So this is from the Latin Word Beta which means beat so it doesn't seem as related to all the other Beta words. This is literally related to beats next. We have Beta Interferon two words. Noun from nineteen eighty an interferon produced especially by fiber blasts. That is used in a form obtained from recumbent DNA especially in the treatment of multiple sclerosis marked by recurrent attacks. Yeah attacks alternating with periods of remission compared to Alpha Interferon and Gamma Interferon. Different kinds of interferons now. We have the word BA take. It is a verb from the fourteenth century. Just transitive I think number. One is archaic. Synonym is commit com it number. Two to 'cause oneself to go so definition is just to cause to go next. Beta lacked amaze Beta Hyphen L. A. C. T. a. m. e. lack tomase. It is a noun for nine hundred and sixty five. An enzyme found especially in staphylococcus back area. That inactivates the penicillins by hydrolysed seeing them. Fancy NEXT HAVE BETA. Oxidation two words with a hyphen now. From Circa nineteen thirty five stepwise capitalism Qatar or catabolism stepwise catabolism of fatty acids in which to carbon fragments are successfully removed from the car. Box L. end of the chain. That wasn't mouthful next. We Have Beta particle two words Noun from nineteen. O Four A high-speed electron specifically one emitted by a radioactive nucleus in Beta decay apologies. For All these scientific words. If that's not something you're interested in but you know every once in a while we get an interesting one now. We have Beta two words now from nineteen to one. Synonym is Beta particle. What we just read number to a stream of Beta particles called also Beta radiation next. We have Beta receptor two words with a hyphen now known from nineteen forty-eight any of a group of receptors that are present on cell surfaces of some effector organs and tissues innovated by the sympathetic and that mediates certain physiological responses as relaxed of bronchial and uterine smooth muscle and increased heart rate when bound by specific. Adra nerve agents compared to the Synonym Alpha receptor. So there was a section in parentheses. Those were examples. Visa dilation relaxation of bronchial and uterine smooth muscle and increased heart rate next. We have Beta test. Two words Noun from Nineteen Hundred. Seventy eight a field test of the Beta version of a product as software especially by testers outside the company developing developing it that is conducted prior to commercial release. Beta test is a transitive verb and Beta tester is a noun next rehab a hard word to say it is Beta Hyphen Fella seem lia fallacy. Mia T. H. A. L. A. S. S. E. M. it is a noun from nine hundred sixty. Two Fella see MIA in which the longer haemoglobin chain is affected and which compromises coolies anemia in the hydro no homos condition and Fella Siemian minor in the Hetero. Is I guess condition. Whoa next. We have Beta Theron. Sounds like a robot. It is a noun from nineteen forty. One an accelerator in which electrons are propelled by the inductive action a rapidly varying magnetic field next. We have Beta wave two words noun from nineteen thirty six and electrical rhythm of the brain with a frequency of thirteen to thirty cycles per second that is associated with normal conscious waking experience called also Beta or Beta rhythm. What is the what is the frequency of my brain? I don't know I don't think it's very good next. We have beetle B. E. L. It is not the beetle that walks the legs. We have talked about this before with other words that sound like beetle but are not not spelled the same way this is a noun from fifteen fifty three a climbing pepper peppers can climb a climbing pepper of eastern Asia whose leaves are chewed together with Betelnut and mineral lime as a stimulant mastic. Katori Matt is when you choose. So that's just a word related to that. This is a Portuguese word. Beata knocking to pronounce it. B E. T. l. e. from a Tamil word very lie next we have new beetle juice capital B. E. T. E. L. G. E. U. S. E. and The pronunciation guide does say it is pronounced beetlejuice or beetlejuice or Beta Jews noun from seventeen sixty nine a variable red supergiant star of the first magnitude near the eastern shoulder of Orion. So this is a French word. Beetlejuice from the Arabic word or words bite aljosa which means Gemini or literally means of the House of the twins and this is confused with Orion. It's in parentheses. It says confused Orion and beetlejuice. I don't know but I've said beetlejuice many times so I'm surprised that he hasn't shown up next. We have Betel Nut Beatles the same spelling it is two words. Noun From Sixteen. Seventy three the stringent seed of the beadle. Palm and. This is from. It's being chewed with Betel leaves. I think this is related to that. First Word Bill. Now we have. Betel palm two words from eighteen. Seventy Five and ASIAN PINEDA LEAVE PALM. That has an orange colored droop with an outer fibrous. Husk scientific name is a Rica. Cut at you CA- chew next. We have Bete Noire or could be Bayton Noir. It is two words first. Word is B. E. T. and the I E has that little carrot hat accent on it and the second word Noir and this is a noun from eighteen twenty eight a person or things strongly detested or avoided. Synonym is bugbear. One word so this is French obviously and it literally means black beast. It's a person or things. Strongly detested Bayton Noir. Some Now we have the word. Well it looks like the word Beth. B. E. T. H. But it is pronounced Bheith or Bait or base. It is a noun from sixteen fifty the second letter of the Hebrew alphabet and then it says to see the alphabet table. So this is yeah Hebrew Beth or eighth from Beith which means House and now we have the last word for this episode. It is Bethel B. E. T. H. E. L. It is a noun from circa sixteen. Seventeen one a hell. Our hallowed spot number two a chapel for nonconformists to be a place of worship for seamen like the navy people Yeah this is Hebrew beth-el which means House of God well we are going to pick BAGEL BAGEL beetlejuice say use. I guess Beetlejuice as the word of the episode. Because it's a fun sounding word and it's a star which is cool and it's also the character crazy character in a movie. Which if you haven't seen it you should go see it. There are rumors that they're making a sequel. I don't know if I want them to. I don't know if I believe the rumors. It has potential but I'm also not. I don't have high hopes if they do actually make that is going to be it for this episode. Thank you very much for joining. I don't know what the world is like on May eleventh but I'm recording this still in April. I know here in Illinois. The shelter in place has been moved to May Thirty. First so yeah. I just hope you're all doing well. 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Metoprolol Pharmacology

Real Life Pharmacology - Pharmacology Education for Health Care Professionals

10:56 min | 1 year ago

Metoprolol Pharmacology

"Hey welcome back to the real life pharmacology. PODCAST I'm your host Eric Christianson. Thanks so much for listening and I hope you pick up some clinical pearls today. Hey today I'm GonNa Cover Matola The reason I'm doing nest you can go back and listen to the betablockers section right greg gave kind of a general overview and some Clinical Pearls and tricks kind of to the class as a whole but I have had requests to kind of do individualized individualized agents within some of those classes just to recognize that. There are differences between some of these agents so I wanted wanted to highlight. Some of those differences certainly will cover the basics of each medication as well. And I'm GONNA do that. With with motto Oprah Law so first off. Let's discuss Some of the names of MMA Topalov so the biggest thing you remember with motto per laws there's primarily the two oral dosage forms and motto. Pro Alter trait is the immediate release formulation. This is going to be dosed. Generally Ah to two three times per day I would say in the overwhelming majority of cases. I see a dose twice per day. The brand name of the immediate get release product is low pressure now on the flip side. We do have an extended release product and that is a to- perol sucks innate which goes by the name mm-hmm of told brawl or tow Paul X. L. that is typically dosed one sedate and simply put the reason being why this dosing is like like that is because of the pharmacokinetics the duration of action for the immediate release is in the Ballpark of three to six hours. So we need a dose that Multiple People Times per day duration of action for the extended release obviously is going to be closer to a full day or twenty four hours indications nations of Blood Pressure Angina. I can be used post. Am I to help improve. Outcomes there atrial zero fibrillation to kind of keep that heart rate in check and Matali does have the indication and the evidence behind it to be used in and a half breath. So that's heart failure with reduced ejection fraction. Now not all Betablockers have that indication so That is is a important to note. thyroid storm. I I have heard of it. Seen it used their rarely Migraines you may seem torpor law US I would say in most situations. You'RE GONNA use nonselective agent but I have maybe seen it once or twice. let's stick with Some of the pharmacokinetic parameters and specifically I talked about the duration. A little bit. Why the drug is dosed the way it is depending upon the dosage form We also have bioavailability alterations depending depending upon the formulation used so. bioavailability is slightly less for extended release however however in most situations if you're doing a conversion let's say from immediate released two extended release. You're probably going to use the same dose is so excuse me the same total daily dose that you would for for both their But recognized that you could have some slight slight alterations in patient response Potentially going to the Xsara the bioavailability is a little bit less than it is is for the immediate release so there is the odd potential that you could have a little bit less of a clinical response when making a transition in like this and one of the main reasons and clinical practice that this might come up. Is You know maybe a patient. They can't remember to take their second. Or possibly I believe in third dose of Topalov immediate release and they simply suggest. Hey It'd be a lot easier to remember if I could just take this once a day. So that's one one of the advantages Certainly of the extended release With extended release something. That's come up in my geriatric practice. This is of course crushing medications. The extended release should not be crushed. patients shouldn't chew it before they swallow or or anything thing of of that nature It there is some evidence that splitting the tablet is okay and and doesn't alter the way it works to a significant extent that's clinically relevant there so with that. Let's continue on pharmacokinetics One important thing. That's going to differentiate mmatobole all from some of the other Beta. blockers is which enzymes break it Downer specifically which enzyme so the enzyme Cyp Two d six is the one that is primarily responsible for breaking down motto. Hope for long so in the event. You've got alterations and or drug. Interactions which I'll I'll talk about the half life of this. Medication can vary based upon some of those alterations. So if you're using An enzyme inhibitor. Of Cyp up to six. That could extend the half-life potentially and obviously the increase the concentrations as well in addition to that what Farm Kojin NOMEX differences. Such is a patient who is a slow metabolize. Her via SIP Tutti six. They can also have elevated concentrations K.. So few important pharmacokinetic parameters there to to think about with the the use of motto prolong of course material is a Beta blocker primarily is Beta selective from a farmer co dynamic namic perspective When we talk about adverse drug reactions for Betablockers as a whole typically impacts on Beta to is is not going to be that significant or certainly less significant than a non selective agent like propranolol so again? mahto perol is primarily Beta selective. So hopefully we don't run as as much of a risk In blunting the effects of Butte are all in or worsening. We're sending a patient who has an asthma exacerbation for example all right. Let's take a quick break and then I will wrap up on. Drug interactions with Moore Topalov fear in the market for Pharmacists Board certification. Study material definitely. GO CHECK US out. Admitted one one dot com slash store or Board Certified Empty Am exam. We've got geriatrics. We've got pharmacotherapy Ambulatory Care we've also got plenty of study options for students as well so go check out our now. Plex material there If your healthcare professional in another field we've got resources for you is well. I've got a couple of books on Amazon audible. Great Resources that demonstrate pharmacology principles pharmacotherapy clinical judgment reasoning. Drug Interaction. All that. Good stuff that you actually see out in clinical practice so Go check out all the resources we have. They will always be located at met at one. One DOT com slash store and go check him out. Support our sponsor and support port The real life pharmacology podcast are. Let's finish up on. Drug interactions with MOTTOLA law. So with You know we've we've got the the generalized Beta-blocker Drug interactions so the the pulse lowering effect. If you add another medication. Let's say Jocson Nanda Hydro Period Calcium Channel Walker. Those medications can and lower pulse in and of themselves so adding it to Topalov or any of the Beta blockers in general Can certainly do that. blunting EPINEPHRINE AFRIN EFFECTS SO motto poll by Beta One blockade could block the epinephrine The benefit from amp and Efren. If you're are using it in Kerr vascular purposes or if you're using it in the setting of an allergic reaction so important to keep that in mind that Betablockers Mahto Paul specifically can blunt Some of those effects to varying degrees again something like asthma. That Beta one selectivity helps us to not Impact that asthma quite as much there and then with Matteo Perol we do have to talk about Cyp. Two thirty six so this is unique Compared to most of the other Beta blockers motto Paul is metabolize primarily by CYP. Tutti six so I think of three classic examples that are antidepressants that can inhibit Cyp. Tutti six paroxetine appropriate and flew oxygen. Those are all CYP. Two D six inhibitors so these can raise the concentrations of Matola torpor long. Okay very very important. So we're more likely to have our you know blood pressure lowering effect Dropping Pulse You know sexual sexual dysfunction Potentially hair loss as well as kind of a rare adverse effect. Basically any sign or symptom of toxicity from a Beta blocker could would be increased. When we use a drug that inhibits CYP? Two D six with this medication. All right I think that's going to wrap it up up for today Track ME DOWN REALLY PHARMACOLOGY DOT com. You can shoot me an email there. Grab your free thirty one page. PDF simply for Following the the blog and one we've got a new podcast available. Also if you enjoyed the show You picked up. Some clinical pearls definitely a kind rating and review on I tunes greatly appreciative of all of you. Who have done that already? 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How Do Betta Fish Work?

BrainStuff

06:53 min | 5 months ago

How Do Betta Fish Work?

"This episode is brought to you by IBM Today. Answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant. It's conversational. I designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit IBM, Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Welcome to brainstorm a production of iheartradio. Hey Brain Steph Lauren Vulva bomb here. With their striking bold colors and flashy fins. Fish are one of the more popular types of fish sold for home aquariums. Perhaps because unfortunately there are a number of misconceptions about these creatures. The truth is that they're not as hardy and easy to care for as many believe Beta fish, sometimes called fighting fish are tropical fish native to Southeast Asia Wild. Betas typically live in rice paddies and other shallow stagnant bodies of water because these wetlands. Wetlands routinely shrink during the dry season. Betas hop from puddle to Puddle, trying to find a reasonably deep pool where they can hang out until the rains return due to these conditions, Betas developed what's known as a labyrinth organ that gives them the ability to obtain some oxygen from the air as well as the water. The sub order that includes Betas are sometimes called Labyrinth fish or Jeremy. Betas got the nickname fighting fish due to their territorial nature during the eighteen hundreds. Perhaps especially in what's now Thailand, the fish were bred for this purpose and fights were forced for entertainment. Betas were first introduced to the United States in the twentieth. Century, wild, Betas generally have small fins in our dull, green or Brown in color, but today's pet Betas have been bred to be quite colorful with elaborate fans with proper care, a pet beta. Beta can live for two to four years, but before you buy one, make sure you're aware of these five common fish tails about the the Beta fish. Perhaps the most widespread myth about Betas is that they can live in small bowls. The opposite is true Beta, fish need a tank that's at least five gallons about twenty leaders and ten gallons, or about forty leaders is better. The origin behind this persistent myth is uncertain but May. May come from the fact that Betas are often sold in small containers, and because they have some ability to breathe out of the water, but this can be stressed if they're housed in close quarters, especially if they share space with fish, perceived as rivals, small tanks being, there's nowhere to hide even when house alone or with fish that they get along with. They still need hideouts to escape to, but while the tank should be spacious. SPACIOUS, it shouldn't be too deep as Betas are more comfortable, swimming back and forth not up and down. We spoke via email with Matt. Layton a longtime Beta fish owner and editor of Vivo Fish who explained that Betas should be kept in tanks, no deeper than twelve inches or thirty centimeters, noting that their fins aren't that powerful. He said if it's too deep, the Beta may not be able to get up to the surfaces easily. Easily. It's heartbreaking to see a Beta struggling climb and then be pulled down to the bottom by his tail. Another myth is that Beta aquariums don't need a water heater or filter, but Betas are tropical fish that need to be kept in water, ranging from seventy six to eighty one degrees. Fahrenheit, that's twenty four to twenty seven, Celsius unless you're home never veers hotter or colder. You'll need that heater. A water filter is important to even. Even though wild Betas live in murky puddles without a filter, the fishes excrement and eaten food can make the water toxic, though be short purchase filter with a gentle flow as Betas. Delicate fins do better in calm water in addition that their fins could be damaged by the section in higher flow filters. Meanwhile, it's actually true that Betas don't mind being alone, and they tend to have issues with other fish, if male Betas are placed. Placed together or placed with other fish that have bright colors and large fins. Their natural territorialism often prompts them to fight. However they can definitely live with other aquatic creatures, such as ghosts, shrimp snails and African Dwarf frogs they can also live with other species of fish, but they do best with bottom dwellers was small fins. They're less likely to fight over territory like the coolie loach, female Betas can often live harmoniously together given adequate. Adequate space, which means at least five gallons or twenty liters per fish, but always introduce new fish slowly and monitor them guides. Online can help you acclimate your existing fish to the idea of new tank. Mate tricks like rearranging hiding spots in feeding your current fish before adding a new one can help, but you should always watch them carefully for a few days and be prepared to move an aggressor to another tank or another home. Another misconception is the Betas can live off of plant roots alone while Beta. Fish are often sold in small vases with the plant. Betas are carnivores, not herbivores in the wild they chow down on insects and Larva, so feed your pets, fish pellets or flakes specially crafted for Betas you can supplement with high protein treats such as blood worms and brine shrimp, but remember that fish can become overweight just like any pet, so feed in moderation, ideally only as much food as the fish can eat within three to five minutes finally. Don't expect a Beta. Beta to be layabout. Many people observe Betas and pet stores where they're often kept in small containers, hinder their activity, and many owners erroneously keep their efficient unheeded water, which makes them lethargic, but Layton says that Beta fish are playful in the proper setting. He said I've seen them. Push Moss balls around dance around their tank display their tails, and generally be quite active. Betas are inquisitive, and will interact with plants, toys, and structures, floating or sinking. Just make sure they're fish safe and don't have any sharp edges. That could hurt those beautiful fins. Episode was written by Melanie. Radzi McManus and produced by Tyler claim for more on this and lots of other fishy topics. visit how stuff works dot com brain. Stuff is a production of iheartradio for more podcasts. My heart radio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or listen to your favorite shows. Guy Goes now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. 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Budesonide Formoterol Pharmacology

Real Life Pharmacology - Pharmacology Education for Health Care Professionals

13:03 min | 1 year ago

Budesonide Formoterol Pharmacology

"Hill welcome back to the real life pharmacology podcast. I'm your host Pharmacist Erik Christiansen Today on this podcast. I'm going to be covering <hes> <hes> the combination of Udeze tonight and formoterol now the brand name of this medication is simple court and of course <hes>. I am all sorts of Colitis in check that out <hes> on this episode specifically I'm going to focus on the installation of form of the drug. <hes> you know twenty thirty years of inhaled corticosteroid therapy for asthma because <hes> it was you know preached indefinitely all in it. That's a combination inhaled corticosteroid long acting Maggot beat Agnes so meteorology has a <hes> initial deep breathing <hes>. That's obviously a very long time in an inappropriate time. Wait for somebody needing symptom relief quickly so indefinitely thought that the inhaled corticosteroids <hes> should not be used in an as needed acute exacerbation <hes> type situation in management of <hes> an acute exacerbation of asthma so really really big change <hes> definitely a practice <hes> changing guideline and how this drug works in the combination. Is it activates. Beta two receptors in the lungs and this causes a smooth muscle. Shen in that airway and that can sometimes <hes> happening in C._O._P._D. As well <hes> but inhaled corticosteroids are one of the mainstays in <hes> Waesche in because they may take a little while to work well with <hes> symbicort specifically in the formoterol <hes> a sticking with the theme of of the PODCAST <hes>. I do want to cover adverse effects long acting Beta agonise. I'll do that briefly combination here so mechanistically formoterol is a long acting Beta agonists and who <hes> twelve times per day for an acute exacerbation now this totally flies in the face of <hes> what I was taught all throughout school and the last Pinhas of action goes <hes> but ultimately <hes> Ian Asthma particularly <hes>. There is a large component of inflammation. It'll effect <hes> that takes several minutes probably up to thirty to forty five minutes and you could imagine somebody with <hes> acute exacerbation difficulty takes up to a minute so maybe like three to three to five minutes to really begin working inhabit onset of action which obviously you could work there now. The one reason one of the big reasons I wanted to cover this medication as we have had some recent guideline changes in the last year or so here component this drug even though it's a long acting beta-agonists has very quick onset of action so the formoterol <hes> <hes> the new global initiative for asthma guidelines allows for the use of be decimated <hes> formoterol combination dacians saying that it is okay to use <hes> Badescu tonight and formoterol combination <hes> one installation as needed up to update <hes> that you definitely should be aware of and obviously you know read a little bit more on it as well if if this is news to you at this point. I- could be helpful in an acute exacerbations <hes> situation now when you compare that to something like <hes> advert for example which has so meter all about those <hes> you know osteoporosis risk and increasing blood sugars. We don't worry about them quite as much <hes> definitely with the inhaled are you are too and particularly in the setting of Asthma <hes> so we have <hes> new recommendations. Ah can be a potential <hes> adverse effect so this is generally if if people are taking many many doses of that Beta will relax station in the longs bronchials and allows <hes> the opening up of that airway and hence allows a patient <hes> <hes> chronic maintenance treatment in asthma therapy and they are good because they reduce that inflammation. That's how the steroids in increase in heart rate with a beta-agonist activity. <hes> kind of with that blood pressure can can go up as well. I think I mentioned Heidi <hes> potential adverse effects as well again the more and more you take of this the less potentially selective it is <hes> so that would be the formoterol component. I remember that <hes> Baiter sceptres are found on the heart as well as the vessel so you can get <hes> healed <hes> corticosteroids <hes> but we do definitely educate patients about the risk for thrush and important obviously to rinse your mouth after and the more likely you're you're going to run into some of the side effects mentioned their adverse effects inhaled steroids now systemically <hes> after using these agents other also some you know opera rest vague upper respiratory symptoms that might happen. <hes> May bother some people you know you may see <hes>. They aren't absorbed to a great extent. You know when you compare it to taking. Let's say oral prednisone for example <hes> so we we don't worry about aide agonised but it is something to look out for and you know the King Ken Connor amp people up a little bit <hes> so insomnia anxiety <hes> to breathe a little bit easier. Now it'd be decimated as corticosteroid. I've Kinda covered that in that other podcasts as far as mechanism that Beta receptors are on the vessels <hes> definitely not as prominent as as Alpha receptors. I did want to mention that <hes> tremor. I'm talking about the <hes> in hailed dosage form. I do have another podcast on desktop. Specifically which is the oral formulation used in krones in a quick break from our sponsor and then we will get into <hes> drug interactions. If you're in the market <hes> Pharmacist <hes> for board certification study a little more cough or a sore throat <hes> things along those lines as well as far as adverse effect profile goes so let's take a by providing a good content each week for you trying to learn and pick up a new pearls from medications so I'm going to sign off for today. Thanks so much for listening <hes> Take Care Everett rest of your day books on on Amazon. We've got audible books available as well as well as all those <hes> study materials for BBC S._p._C._a. c. p. m. t. m. certification. I used as needed. Let's say for an acute exacerbation with a patient. WHO's maybe on maintenance advert taking that once or twice daily? TICHENOR A MED student <hes> definitely check out all the resources at mended one one DOT COM Slash Store S. T. O. R. E. Different using them appropriately and not <hes> doubling up in an inappropriate manner so definitely some complications there to to keep an eye out and look for I think about <hes> from a mechanistic standpoint <hes> is the beta-agonist potential <hes> and the potential for that drug to be blunted did by Betablockers and generally more specifically <hes> non selective Beta blockers so we've got a non selective Beta blocker. That's that's going to <hes> block. Beta two receptors from being activated by the long acting Beta two agonists also so important to recognize that that those duplications can happen but <hes> important to assess with our patients if they are what's in those medications and you know there for you know. Let's say asthma or C._O._P._D. Definitely double check. Make sure you're using <hes> different mechanisms. Obviously <hes> you know selective Beta blockers that primarily target Beta one receptors that isn't quite as concerning <hes> in we seen patients who are taking <hes> duplicate therapy in the <hes> respiratory world so you know symbicort in an advert for example <hes> where clinicians either aren't paying attention or you know. Maybe they see specialty or maybe there's formularies changes. I've definitely certification exam now. Geriatric certification exam and of course <hes> links to <hes> our new website are ex Grad <hes> for nap plex <hes> prepare for and again. That's admitted one one dot com slash store so finishing up here on drug interactions one of the first ones of that <hes> you decide now. How clinically significant is it. You know in a patient. That's maybe taking P._R._N. Udeze tonight from materials so <hes> yeah go support the sponsor. Check those resources out. I think you'll find him really really helpful. <hes> for whatever your <hes> trying to from order all it's probably not a a major major issue <hes> in an acute situation <hes> patients taking it more chronically just recognize. Oh you don't wanting the effects of these respiratory agents <hes> important <hes> really really important point and I've seen this in practice several times combination with another <hes> combination agent like <hes> be decimated and formoterol <hes> so if you aren't sure of brand names and simple <hes> you know asthma attacks you know inhaled corticosteroid combination or excuse me as Mecca in inhaled corticosteroid in combination study materials if you're looking for good <hes> clinical case based content. Maybe you're a growing budding new Practitioner Pharmacists Nurse Practitioner. Are we do have with debuted s tonight some CYP three a four inhibitors <hes> drug interactions so of action with this updated guideline. There may be an exception to that <hes> you could potentially see <hes> you know tonight and and for motor all <hes> you know really proud of of the ratings that that we've got with the show and obviously hope to <hes> keep up that that credibility and that that high rating of drug interactions they try to highlight ones that <hes> I really come up in clinical practice or could potentially <hes> come up and in clinical practice so oh pearls <hes> be a great resource for students and pharmacists who are taking <hes> exams there for sure go check that out at real life pharmacology dot com. ETAP <HES> two hundred drug list <hes> that lists out <hes> important clinical pearls from each of those drugs really highly testable <hes> 'cause Hypo Nutria and there is potential that <hes> corticosteroids could potentially exacerbate or worsen this that we could have a little bit higher concentrations of the Byu decimated <hes> formulation or the drug in the combination sponsor <hes> met at one dot com slash store. <hes> also got a free giveaway <hes> real life pharmacology dot com. You can get <hes> cheat basically kind of think about in monitor there. That's going to wrap it up for today. Obviously with drug interactions there. There are numerous numerous lists of so obviously take that with a grain of salt there <hes> but if you enjoying the podcast <hes> enjoying the information you're getting here definitely go support there. <hes> one other unique one that I did want to cover is desma Preston. <hes> this <hes> decimal precedent. Ken <hes> mm-hmm <hes> w-w-w enjoyed the show leaves a rating review on. I tunes rare every listening I'm so appreciative of of those that have taken the time to to do that and <hes> <hes> fumbles clear through mice and some of the H._I._V. Drugs All of your retirement your <hes> these can actually increase the concentration of <hes> so it is something to look for again. desma precedent isn't used incredibly often <hes> in clinical practice <hes> but definitely something to.

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Apple sees iPhone revenue decrease 26% in Q3  DTH

Daily Tech News Show

07:23 min | Last month

Apple sees iPhone revenue decrease 26% in Q3 DTH

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Apple announced it earned seventy three cents per share on revenue of sixty four point seven billion dollars beating analysts, expectations iphone revenue dropped twenty, six percent of the year to twenty six point four, billion dollars. Mac sales were up twenty nine percent ipad sales up forty five percent wearables were up twenty point eight percent and services were up sixteen percent of the year. The company also announced its apple one subscription bundles are available as of October, thirtieth. In Q. Three, Amazon earned twelve dollars and thirty seven cents per share on revenue of Ninety six point, one billion dollars both substantially beating analysts expectations aws revenue was up twenty nine percent subscription revenue up thirty three percent and it's advertising dominated. Other category was up fifty one percent of the year. Alphabet reported it earned sixteen dollars and forty cents per share in q three on revenue of forty, six, point, seventeen, billion dollars well, above analysts expectations overall ad revenue was up nine point seven percent on the year with Youtube specifically up thirty two percent other revenue was up thirty five percent of the year with other bets revenue up fifteen percent while losses in division grew eleven percent to top one billion dollars in the quarter starting in Q. Four been announced, it will break out of income for Google cloud business. facebook reported it earned two dollars and seventy one cents per share on revenue of twenty one, point, four, seven, billion dollars, and you'll never guess it they beat analysts expectations the company said it had one hundred, ninety, six, million daily active users in Canada and the US in the quarter down two million on the quarter, which facebook said was inflated Dacoven Nineteen lockdowns overall monthly active users across all of facebook's APPs were two point, two percent to three point two, one, billion users. FACEBOOK's other revenue which includes oculus and portal devices was down seven percent in the year two, hundred and forty, nine, million dollars. And twitter didn't want to be left out and reported it beat analyst expectations in Q. Three with earnings of nineteen cents per share on revenue of nine, hundred and thirty six million dollars monetize daily active users increased twenty nine percent of the year to one hundred and eighty, seven million. But did miss analysts predictions of one, hundred, ninety, five, million ad revenue increase fifteen percent of the year with ad engagement up twenty, seven percent. In non earnings under armor announced, it will sell my fitness pal to the investment firm Francisco partners for three hundred, forty, five, million dollars as well as shutting down its Endo Mondo fitness platform under armor acquired both companies in two thousand fifteen the company will continue to own and operate the map, my fitness platform, which includes my run an Matt, my ride. Nikkei reports that according to sources. Sony is in final negotiations to buy the enemy streaming service crunchy rel currently owned by at and T. The deal is reportedly valued at over one hundred, billion yen about nine hundred. Fifty seven million US dollars crunchy role currently has seventy million users and three million paying subscribers with over one thousand titles on the service. Samsung, announced a global rollout of these smart things find service and extension of the fine. My mobile APP that lets users track down law Samsung, phones, tablets, smart watches, ear buds with support for tracking tags coming in early twenty, twenty one, the Services Combination of Bluetooth low energy and ultra wideband for locating items with support for devices running android eight or later once users register device with smart things find they can view the item on a map and command devices to ring one close by Samsung trial of the service in the US UK and South Korea last month. 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The vulnerability will also let security researchers analyze micro patches for vulnerabilities and has been patched. Chip firmware can always be rolled back. And finally uses of the IOS working dot to Beta reported receiving frequent notification advising that a new Beta is available and that they should upgrade. However, new Beta has been released a similar effected beatty users of Iowa's twelve back in two thousand eighteen caused by a flaw in the calculation used when the Beta bill expires. Remember more discussion of the Tech News of the day subscribed daily Tech News, show at tech new show dot com, and remember to rate and review daily tech headlines. Forever you get your podcast next listening we'll talk to you next time and from all of us here at daily tech headlines Remember. Have a super sparkly. Up Work has the world's largest network of independent professionals. 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ACG Gaming Podcast #193 ACG Blathercast - Ubisoft PR Springs Leaks, Deadly Premonition FPS Peaks, Tencent and Warframe Deal Reeks, And Karak Hate Reaches Peak

ACG - The Best Gaming Podcast

2:23:36 hr | 5 months ago

ACG Gaming Podcast #193 ACG Blathercast - Ubisoft PR Springs Leaks, Deadly Premonition FPS Peaks, Tencent and Warframe Deal Reeks, And Karak Hate Reaches Peak

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It's somebody else, and I am accustomed to my speed of work, which is where like if I need a contract, I'll fuck and talk to legalzoom. Pay The extra grand. Tomorrow Bitch like you work for me now I like that and instead these guys are like. Yeah, we'll get you. The NDA's at some point so. It's exciting to talk about also want to say. Thank you everybody for voting on the DND. game will be doing that more often. We had everybody vote. I can't remember what they said they said. Oh Cindy Sassoon's after the characters which ended quite well. But I definitely appreciate that we'll have more stuff for indie coming up soon, so everybody in the discord got vote on what the characters did in the game or what the enemy did. They got to be the villain, which was nice. Let's see what else what we got anything. Special on your guys. Channels registered really streaming much just in the scored a little bit. I saw yesterday before. What about you Johnny? What streaming? Covering the new content on monster hunter ice, born. That's coming out and getting geared up for that new hunt that came out which is really really hard core. What isn't? It's been a lot of fun. It's a new monster. It's called the Latvian, and it's the toughest thing that's been in the game by far. It's got like gear checks. DPS checks coordination checking the whole thing where you need the gear, but you need to also be well prepared in what you're doing in the fight to have a chance. You can solo it as well so you don't need a team, but you do need to have done all the prior stuff to get to that point, so it's like truly just end and game. Master Hunter. Type stuff and it's really cool. Plague a plague souls master. Thank you very much for subscribing. With this one. It's sort of Nice to hear that it's not just a gear. Thing that you have to actually hear what you're doing froze by the way so. Hopefully backup. been having a little bit of issues since the Windows update yesterday, but when it comes down to that game, how much time do you have to put in to be able to fight that guy? We're talking about like. A hundred hours, probably a little more. A hundred hours. Till am if you start from zero today from base game. Yeah, you can now if you start now, you can probably get there faster because they introduced. Something called Guardian Armor which is meant to carry you through the base game essentially, so it makes you really strong against the base game enemies in a way so that you can kind of not die as much to them if that makes sense, so that's your option of like getting through the base game pretty quickly with that. But, it will still probably take you a good number of hours into get like to the end of the ice born campaign to there's a ton of content. They're probably between eighty and. Probably about. Eighty hours to get the whole thing complete. It depends on the person. It's kind of hard to judge because. Some people might lose a lot of time in particular hands, or you know learning weapons right, but just to give people an idea. It's I can't talk. Can't talk about what I WANNA talk about, but there there's a lot of games that are doing the dark souls a an incredible amount of time. Required. To do things kind of stuff and I think here in the next couple months. It'd be nice to talk about some games that. We talked about this about six months ago. I guess when I was saying. I really wish there was a game. There were games where it looked like. Let's say dark souls, but it didn't require that investment that like. But it still showed mastery. If you're good at it, it just didn't require. That didn't require that time of a monster hunter. If you wanted to jump in, I think dauntless, SORTA does that and a lot. People don't like dauntless. Loose it in like I, liked it. For a free to play game fine. Yep So. But it'd be nice to talk about some of this stuff I'm wondering if cyberpunk is going to be that way is cyberpunk going to be again? I feel cyberpunk is going to be a game. That won't require a ton of time and what I mean by that is. There's so many skills that are are there in cyberpunk that looked to be a little bit like what reg likes. Where like the? We played hyperscale. Gun where aim just fire! Yeah, like because you WANNA jump in. You just want to see the world you WANNA. See people moving around. You want some action. Night I think we're GONNA. See that with Cyberpunk, too, because I know, cyberpunk showed two or three trailers back a gun that was auto firing like you know the bullets tracking a little bit like a need, lower but better. Even, though needless the best game. Gun especially because they always screen before and runaway did. That demands common. And you've got this gun that sounds like somebody. Hitting wind chimes at such a WORC- sounding gun rights. Not Scary doesn't have any concussions just like jinking. Changing little bits of glass, hit and people know a few seconds after all. Dude such a great weapon in anybody I. Have People arguing me all the time about that? They're like no, neither I number of times. I won matches like using a smart combination of the need. Learn another weapon in because people leave the need lawyer everywhere. They run to get like you. Can you know something else and you're like no problem bitch I'll pick this up, you know. Also runaway. If you knew you were going to get the kill with the needles, you put them on someone's back and just fucking walk away like a boss for someone else split it in behind Ya in. You And you just turn around. You're like Duh. Duh, Duh, and they run around. Screaming explodes perfect void soldier. Thank you very much for a given out the subs to people. I definitely appreciate it I'm sure they do, too. I'm sure all of them have a reason for not having already been subscribed, and we will want that written out so that we can figure it out hopefully cyberpunk time dump if you choose similar to secondary and contracts in the witcher. Hopefully, CYBERPUNK is a time dump if you similar. To Secondary and contracts in the which I don't know what that means. If you, WANNA. Get into it. There's a lot to to get out of it. Yeah, right? Yeah, my mom, quests and contract yeah. Yeah I I would say when it comes down to it. That's probably what we'll get. That's hopefully what will get i. don't see them completely changing anything. Let's see goes to she. Shema reviews are on Tuesday ubisoft. We'll be streaming live on the channel. That's on Sunday and then at the end of that event Game Play for various games, we've had hands on can be shown. People were asking about. We come out so. Yeah Yeah, good times lots of gain news. Let's talk about the first thing you'd be soft. In particular, every single thing has been leaked if I was the these guys. Part of the PODCAST FIVES UBISOFT. I would just be like. Fuck it. Send it directly. Just send it out. Put It on the Internet fortune. But you were, you were saying it doesn't really make sense the theory of like they're doing this on purpose, right? So if you were in ubisoft shoes, thinking that you would just rather have some kind of event or controlled way of leaking these things so that it looks better. Yeah. Yeah Yeah and like even talking to be i. mean there's been. has there been timed leaks from some company in the world. For sure the thing is people assume. Send something happened once. It's happened every time. Like little defensiveness that comes up in your life, but now now especially this kind of stuff in the way things get leaked man. It's just it's in especially now, looking at the footage of all Khawla did you. I don't know if you guys saw, but UBISOFT cramming the hell out of those channels. If a channel posted it UBISOFT was on it. They were like that that video would go up and ubisoft within half a minute was like claimed claimed. Its. If. You see that kind of footage. It's usually easily tracked and I'm going to tell you. It's GonNa get worse. You saw last of us to get leaked and You saw the data. They're like they had little developer data and then in It in games I think you'll start to see watermarking while they're where they're probably GonNa Watermark your user tag in your footage. You won't be able to see it. Maybe it'll be every third frame or something we're just POPs up and just carrick. You won't even say it. I mean there's ways that they can do all that kind of stuff, so there are looks like digital cinemas during that. We've moved -solutely yeah, yeah, 'cause remember in the old days it would be like you'd get a pop up and say this is for Oscar nomination. You guys remember that Moonwalk really. Hammocks. It'd be like this and now in my consideration, it might say that when there's. Other stuff that POPs up in the movie that tells them exactly what real at came from not real. Sorry, but would exactly what data file that came from you'll. You'll never been so. Yes over out today let's see. How do these leaks even happened like? We said you know somebody getting hands on with it and You know re recording hall. A looks like a re, skinned ACO, de. Let's hope because if it was a bird flying simulator I think a lot of people be pissed. I always love it that when a game comes out a sequel, people like it looks a lot like the game prior. Yeah. That's that's that's the that's how you do things. My friends, the even origins that you guys I played syndicate recently syndicate and origins. Yes, they are different, but they both looked like assassins creed. Like. They may have alternated in how their game play is somewhat, but when you play it, you're just like it still looks like an assassin's creed. You wouldn't mistake. Origins for some other game series. You'd be like that's that's asleep like you wouldn't. You wouldn't mistake what about far cry. Did you guys see the leak? Yes. Location and we also knew from before that Giancarlo esposito from breaking bad was going to be a part of it and I. Think a lot of people were excited. Myself included. He's a pretty good solid like a tier. Here's why I'm not excited a dish. They're. Not Will. You. Tell me every time. They bring up the the boss. The boss Israeli in there. Because you're not going to be. So remember Troy. Baker was only calling you on the radio in that one is. Yes Bitch. You can't get me in. You're like seriously. Troy called that in probably to fuck and do the recording. Liking never shows up in the game other than the starting so I think it's great. He's in there because I know. A lot of people love him I. I hope they somehow figure out a way to make them more prominent is what I'm saying. Joseph was pretty prominent admittedly in. was that five. Yet just. I suppose I I forgot the other. The two twins were also very prominent in new You know much order lands tried that, and they tried that over the top twin thing the over the top like character, almost streamers and borderlands, and then in New Dawn. They tried it. It just doesn't work man I don't know why doesn't seem to really doesn't seem to really gamers. What was the location Fake Island Dot Com? Yeah Got Kinda Kinda FEP AGO LILA number three. And we all know why right we all know it's so that they can mimic bribes life and go everywhere. Right. It's so that yes, of course, have rain have a grass and you don't. I mean there. There are some places in real life where that is, but I think in over overall just easier to say fake island dot Com and get away with it. You Guys GonNa. Get it! I mean I am for review, but are you guys interested? Yes for sure. I, keep hoping that they're gonNA tone down the spawning mechanics. and. Someday will happen. But. I still remember my time with I'm trying to remember I. think it was followed for. My memory's not so great sometimes with games, but that villain was Advan. Fallout the guy was. Maybe was three. He was also in breaking bad and. Better Call Saul that actor! Apologize, I'm forgetting his name in addition to the whole thing, but in that game that was a clear example of a really strong villain that carried the game for made it really interesting, in fact like halfway into the game or something. He's no longer in the picture and the game kind of dropped for me so I'm hoping you know with like A. A good addition like Giancarlo they can do something really cool like that. I mean. I'll personally say I thought far cry. Five I said this earlier I. Don't think far cry. Fives. Issue was narrative anyway and I liked far cry fives. You know characters so if they can do something, yeah for cry three cry. I thought far cry five I thought Joseph seed and faith. was at her name, the cocaine, the heroine face to face. Broken Haughty Dot com she's. She was my Kinda Woman I. Like that kind of stuff. I think it was done well. Yeah, we'll see man. Hopefully hopefully. They turned down the sponsor I. Just don't think it'll happen I. Just don't think they know. How to turn down the spawns man. It's like. Logan and they'll be on you. It's the only game I've ever seen other than Armagh. When I would fuck up of a mission and make it myself that I've ever seen. Airplane spawned same Spun Point Smash into each other in a vertiginous in a purchased game like that's how bad it was I remember looking up and you see these two airplanes like. I'm like wow. Wow like sit where. We can say it's Qa I. Don't think it was. It was probably just not enough. Time I killed faith with an aptly named gardening implement. Trying to think what it is must be something. Ironical because it's like faith Ho maybe. A hope something that kills faith maybe I'm over thinking. Yeah, maybe I don't care first thing that popped up in A. Row and I was like destroyed mean anything. True Yeah, what a weird word to yeah! Oh, dude is! It is a lot of our. Work and Trowel repeat a multiple times you like this, just sounds makes no sense at all the eagles. Far They should have just used the spawns as a feature in the point. Just go for energy. Crew. Sorry peeps taken some migraine medicine all right. Anything else to add. Yeah, we'll talk about that later anything to add about about far cry leaks. Anything. Unexpected anything expected. I would expect that we'll see more stuff about Microsoft possibly by Warner Brothers. That has been continually hinted that now we'll have to see I. don't know man. That's a big. That's a big purchase. On the other hand, they bought minecraft. Two Billion Manhattan, yeah, so Microsoft's got the cash. You know when they're this big. Companies this big. Up. They just show up on an island. And they buy island because they want to do one party there like there. There's levels to this and they're like at this. Level friend right there that friend where you're like this weekend. We're GONNA play. Dnd and he's like I'm GonNa? Go ride camels, and you're all wears their place right Campbell nearby in there fucking Egypt bitch near all. This for the weekend for the weekend and then we're GONNA. Fuck an eat the camels, and you're just like damn like you're living the life dude I. I don't know if they will or not. I also wonder where I. P's would go you by Warner Brothers. WHO GETS THE IP's? Because some of those Ip's are all over the place, but can you imagine? If like Microsoft was like Batmans exclusive for whatever people will be pissed if it was Sony. They damn like perfect, the perfect Ottesen to own the IP, but if it's Microsoft destroy them. Yeah. We'll talk about ten cents as well. We're talking about all this kind of stuff What other secrets have we heard lately like little well we can. We can talk about ten cents, so Sony was supposedly going to buy war frames, company, and the the larger company, and instead it turned out to be ten cents. There's. A Lot, of people upset about. That That's a pretty big deal. I mean. I don't get to the clamped about that stuff because I can't control it. It still sucks, but. As tencent! Has Ten set hurt us yet? So far they've bought a lot of shits, but at least visibly they have done anything. Yeah, that's true there like Vivendi right where you hear that they're this big monolithic scary. but they're not like ea where they by companies and destroy them right. Interesting interesting I mean we're orders, or there's a smarter about it yet. Right right well. Oh, by the way good good mention. TENCENT DIDN'T BY TEN CENT DIDN'T ENTER DISCUSSIONS INTO this as ten cent, they entered as a proxy cold like I. Mart it which I. that's the first thing I thought actually it was like. What are you doing like? They weren't like tencent buys like I'm not buying it. My best friend is. Using my money, but I have nothing to do with it. An tencent also is making a move into the streaming space writer their travel platform. We haven't really touched on it, but. In case people haven't realized MIC sir. Deluged with facebook gaming the gun. They hadn't grown. As a platform for months, where whereas like facebook, gaming was growing two X or three X. And twitch, also growing fairmount, and so on, so what's crazy to think about? Is that with all the backing from Microsoft and all the momentum they put behind it events all that shit. They couldn't make it work. Do we think that tencent let alone any other like smaller startups that were seeing for streaming services are going to even make a dent. And get into the streaming space in any real way to compete with the big boys I don't know if registries but I think the reason why facebook gaming is succeeded is because it's facebook and they are. They were already vested social interest where Microsoft and mixer was mixed. Remember when they bought mixer. People are like why because nobody had even heard of the company prior to mixer and then. Then, they changed their name to mixer. So it's sort of like buying that failed thing and hoping somebody cares and most people didn't get. They were like, but that's my phone. Yeah, also also micro, says history of that I mean we have stuff like the soon the windows phones they all try to have minors and put a lot of money and time into it and still failed horribly. So? I think that's just Microsoft's that stay. They have a couple of progress that are super successful, but every time they tried to enter market. That's not within their sphere of come forward. It seems to fail. And I think tencent has a better option of success. We've in China obviously because that's where dominance and if they manage to get a message from there, and then I think it's much easier to expand. Interesting thing with facebook. Sorry, NO GOPHER! Do you want to? I just want to say like with facebook. Most people have like easily a hundred distant relatives or like random people that. Follow them or whatever whatever the term haven't used facebook in two years. But like if you start streaming, they're all of a sudden you know like. Your Grandmother Your Brazil. Is like Oh you know Janis. So I'm going to check it out. Whereas in any other platform, there's always that step of like. Growing an audience getting people to find you and facebook almost built in in some way that might help like New People. Getting started no I. Agree do look at Youtube. I jumped youtube to twitched. There was no I mean other than those people I. Could you know? Get kicking inclined to come over every almost every person for Youtube is had a very difficult time coming to twitch, and there's a reason because those audiences don't mix their information. The now youtube purposely will make it so that you don't know. Somebody's on twitch, remember in the old days. They'd be like persons on twitter. Go Watch him now. It's like man. You're not allowed to put any of that. They remove any ability for you to do that. kind of stuff with with with facebook I personally know most of my friends who have even an old facebook account would already have more people watching them stream on facebook than they've ever had on twitch. Just by the sheer amount of people who are in their friends, list and friends of friends lists, so it makes sense for a smaller person who's like only hidden. You know a couple dozen to be like well Shipman. Maybe I'll check facebook because I see those couple dozen haven't grown on twitch. Let's let's see if I can get him on both and twitch also. Has that tendency of saying you can't stream anywhere else? FACEBOOK's like you can stream wherever you want youtube. You can stream wherever you want We'll see how ten cent works. I'm assuming ten cents a bunch of people down into very specific things. You know who did it. Look at their website of what they have. Currently and top streams are all mobile stuff. That's another leave like yeah, you. It's all mobile. That's mental. The top top as I think mobile, and then you have t mobile et Cetera, so they're. Very much on the mobile sector currently. Isn't streaming mobile, exactly opposite of mobile like 'cause. Wouldn't she usually be sitting to stream it and not moving anywhere like you're not on the train like just literally. Literally not yeah in I. Know a lot of people scream from android emulators. So it's even doubling not so it's like I'm going to get this emulated game and I'm going to crank it up and then plotted the even the even the half their on android emulator where you can play their mobile games. On, PC. Yes so weird! But Hey. You know what I play a lot of mobile games now. There's a couple that are fucking awesome so okay, but they're not call of duty like that's. About a star Rangers, couple RPG's and you know those kind of things fucking phenomenal games. There's a couple that I wish came to pc because like I. See him and I'm like Oh my God. If graphics on this, were you know like imagine what you can do but. Well interesting stuff, I, don't know I don't think any of us really care in the long run. Were I mean in I-? I'll be surprised if we're all here. In ten years the way the world's going. I mean it just feels like every day I. Wake up and I'd like closed. The News Tabs quick as possible because I'm like. I just don't want to read that she'll be here. I have to be alive for part for the final part of final fantasy seven remake. They said ten months. Yeah. Thank. You know let's talk about something. Let's this is I'm glad you brought that up. Because I was in the Shitter, which is where a lot of your best Bankin and I was like that the truth ain't that the truth? There's been a lot of big games in. People are going to disagree on this, but I think there hasn't been a big so last of us do you could consider a media event, but I don't think it was about. The game is about the message and people's reaction to the message of the message, and then people's reaction to the reactors of the message. So. They're a lot of games have come out. Imagine this. When we first started some of these games that we were excited about, we hadn't even known about. Final fantasy seven, which I was always telling Johnny wasn't gonNA come out right. And it's out. You have all of these game. cyberpunk is now going to be I. consider it the last of the grandfathered games. I was looking at this last night going. Do we have any games? To wear the excitement and the Almighty, God. Is, is out there and hasn't been answered yet. And the only one that I can think of is cyberpunk now. All the other games have been answered well as she. Shema comes up and I don't think that's at near the level of last of US know. Is there any title that you that I'm forgetting? That's on this that God of like of true excitement or true. Yeah elden ring, but that's still very far off. We don't know anything about that yet. Yeah, and it's not a dark souls. Like if it was called dark souls for I think the idea I think. These, that exact would be different. Too, but we can say we could say we can save elden ring. Because elderly those games are sort of in that tight. Tight genres. Sky Room we haven't even heard of a new Sky Room so like I'm not gonNA. Put that on the list. like that I. Mean Oh yeah. I mean they would start film zone this out. I was GONNA say star field, I mean. There's star fields overriding can cool and yeah. John Fund we got want star citizens. I you know Star citizen I could go with I. Guess because but see I'm sort of thinking more along the lines of the game, and not the discussion around the game, because a lot of people, no matter how good star citizen is, they're going to do the same thing people do. When they talk about Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo the hold onto some old preconceived thing. They'll be like. Oh, well. They should have been out ten years earlier if the game. Game is amazing. You'll be like twenty out of ten. They'll be like shit out earlier, and that's like the end of their discussion, so I'm talking about like just sheer excitement. Think cyberpunk sit I. Guess Elden Ring Halo Infinite. But Man I about you guys. I'm anybody talking about game. Like other than big Halo fans of which I think there aren't as many as there used to be. We'll ask you. Did you look at my still there? Just for your back? Sorry, guys peers were having issues with the Internet but I think other than those big. Halo fans that have stuck around a lot of people. Just you know Baldur's gate three. bloodlines bloodlines Outta yeah. It's close but his. Last of us to or Cyber Mono. I? Don't think so I think you're right. People are really excited for it, but I think it falls under like niche. Bit more like Niche. See Sleeve shirt sleeves full of Shit, though but he saying Halo infants should be on there. I just I don't know sleep. Man and I'm just joking, not I I. Don't know I. I don't know if it's high enough to be on their. Horizons era. Don't think so. Reisen Zero Don as close Batman now that would be true if a new Batman was announced tomorrow. I would agree with you. I think about men. That would make sense well. We got Harry Potter coming finally. We finally now know that there's a Harry Potter. RPG for after that leaked footage from was that a year ago. I think it was I didn't see that you didn't see that it looked like. Look, a little like bully. The Magic User Edition. Is like third person, it was a lot like a GTE, but but with like them casting spells and stuff. I'm all for it. I like Harry Potter. I know some people have issues with like what the author saying. She's like going off on twitter. Who will opening locks and Shit Win Win Win? Guard doom lineal. Which I external exterminates, or whatever for the killing them all the bells sound like what they are. Yeah, but the level one spells. Weren't that impressive was like. Hey, you're opening a door or like. Something Small Bird at an. And Dude I mean. Like at some point you get. A Viceroy Rhyme that would be one I. Think if Metro Prime got announced. You think Metro Prime Metro prime for is still in development like that. That is one of the Games that still unreleased. Okay, so metro-wide for what about? Super Mario Sixty four times one, twenty, eight, or whatever the fuck it. To to fifty say kingdom hearts divided by fucking doggone. Them never supersized fucking. Martial Arts Kata Anyway. Thank you everybody for showing up. We got some New People here from Youtube crumples scrambles has subscribed for seven months. Thank you scrambles. You sound like a cat for some reason that's like. It's a it's a great username. Strangulation no Brugge inflation. Sorry read that wrong. Oh, he's not subscribing these talking about Microsoft Okay I've read of rental the subscribers. Thank you very much. Yeah, absolutely all rock. Let's see Silent Hill. Bay before. They before. Maybe four might be on that list. Now that I think fables pretty. Fables Pretty Poor. Thing to maybe. Yeah! A Regan A-. We'll see if we see that I did get to play about eight hours of hell raid, which is the dying light sequel that was going to be in BND, fantasy worlds, but instead they turned to deal. See for Dine Light. Did I explain that right know so? They're open Beta was weakened before last a thank God. It was an open Beta or closed Beta open a camera which but it was. Was One of those Betas you can talk about it and released video and Roth as book, so thank God that wasn't being made into a game, basically grab swords and kill zombies, and in the level, really really basic I was I was hoping for more doesn't look like it's very far along, even though I think that was. I think he'll. Rate was originally announced like four years ago so. Oh. No lives forever three. Yeah, no one lives forever. Three would be big for US guys, wouldn't it? Oh, mass, effect, mass effect, yeah a new mass effect. Mass effect for return of the shepherd and he came out. Rapin was like some mumble rap. Goes. Mac Get stacks ready. I'm Super Fat I think that would. That would be the thing, but if you try to do and drama to to buck you. I don't WanNa. See that I want to say anything to do with mass effect. ANDROMEDA. That's a game I forget, he'd been exists all the time. Lead born but stable. Please splinter cell. Yeah, okay, guys. Now we're just naming. We're just talking about games we like. This topic it was. About gains that had been talked about prior like of us on the podcast. 'cause remember before these guys got on the PODCAST I. Did interview with the guys who did ash? That's even out right like they're all out. Primal. We talked about the day it was like leaked to gnats out like all the. Rest of the while to has been teased, but is not yet. It hasn't been announced. Yet they had shopping. I mean not for tyler or anything, but they definitely had shown like. It's in developed milk. Half Life sixty-nine year half. Life is one of those games that like I don't know. I would assume at some point. We'll get a three, but anyway that was the discussion of just like have the big master titles have the grandfather titles coming on? And I think they have cyberpunk will be everything that has really been announced and has been titled Than Show Nov.. Pretty much has released apart from maybe stuff like dying light to, and it's weird, too, because it's happened. The last two years last year was pretty big in this year is pretty big and now. I don't know what to Ford to I. Don't know I think. Maybe we should just call it. Be like this is the end of the podcast in the channel. There's nothing. Let's. Let's it. Scared. GD Last of our podcast. It's over. It's over just called the podcast. H fours in development. Yeah, that would not be on the list. There's a reason why nobody mentioned dragon each. Night absolutely do not look forward to dragon age for does anybody. Know here. If it was like the first one again, then sure but. It never will be again. It never will be. Johnny's always trying to grab that little bit of positivity like. Re again fucking like. I'm reaching their. Spend my hand around. Maybe it'll be. Aright. We're going to move on from there. Let's talk about other rumors, so you've got. You've got the ubisoft Leak Warner Brothers. tencent is is getting hold of frame. So many was going to do that, but they dropped out of the running for the purchase. What other big company news have we got? If anybody's got any big company news, throw it up in the in the chat so that. I don't forget and move on. trying to think if there's anything we have missed before we move on. Show Sony bought share one point five percent of shares in. An epic that was awesome. They were a guy was doing the thing. Sony spent two hundred and fifty million in only got one point. Five shares win ten cent. got like ten percent ten percent by spending like a third of that. You know because of how big epochs become. Any thoughts on halo rumors. No I don't I. Don't really I don't follow halo much anymore. I will when it comes out, but they've sort of burned me. Let's see moving on. Let's go with ridges. We're GONNA cover. We're going to cover deadly premonition. Don't you worry, but we're GONNA. Cover the free games right now because we want to get to. Go for it go. So totally free stuff like I up on the EPA game sore the escapades to killing floor to and lifeless planet, so those are the three totally free games killing floor. Tim's doing on to subscription. It's origin. Excess has the sinking city the search to and the RENA. Playstation now. Has Hello Neighbors, three, twenty, five and watchdogs to? Play Station Plus Erica NBA, two K. Twenty and rise up the Tomb Raider and xbox. Game Pass has crossed cold for PC and XBOX, one endless space, two for PC, and followed seventy six four PM xbox one. What a Combo breaker to end it on fallout seventy-six. What A FUCKING COMBO BRAND! I told the guys in the chat yesterday. I'm like that's the first game ever where I probably won't mention. It's on game pacify. Try to sell game past somebody like dude. Game falls seventy six on there. I'll be like I. Don't know probably not. But you look at these others killing floor two on epic killing floor twos, great lifeless planets, pretty good origin has sinking city, which has been patched still isn't great. I think nor nor. Didn't nor just experience the the weird pissing. And and crazy shit that goes on her. Sinking city I think he did in our discord You've got search to for origin that right. There is fucking awesome. ps now watchdogs to. Maybe. He has plus Erica Johnny played. That loved your loved Erica. Rise of the Tomb Raider one of the best tomb raiders ever made like in. That's the on I think rises the Tomb Raider is legitimately one of the best of all. The I played every tomb raider. CROSS-CODE I think reg played yesterday. Yes, why don't you give it down? What's cross-code? so across code is Pixel styled game. Kinda like What's the best way to describe it? Twin stick shooter style a little bit. but you have different abilities, and it's set in a virtual a memo world, so it's a single player game, but the game story takes place in animal world so you. Have to character. Be Able to do weird stuff within the context of the story. Yeah, and it's about fifty hours long, so it's also pretty lame. At the same date, it also released on the switch as well. I don't know if it also released on the same on the other consoles, and usually cost twain deflects I believe. So game pass prices for gold one. I like the The characters from what I've played so far in the game. They're all very well. Written you their wares sympathetic. and Starting so far is also pretty good with the issue of course is set in animal world, so you do have to classic Ammos side quests as well like collections and deliver sheets and. Yeah. That's in there. From reviews I've read about it. It's it's It has no grinding. Say like you don't have any areas where you can't progress because your level is too low and you just have to smash enemies. If you do the quest, you pretty much can get through the game. Without any stops that a gop cheese for example often suffer from. Is it so it's faking an emo. So it's dreg coalition all over again except good. Yeah. You probably put it like that. That's Coleman what It's not the only one there is remember. A PS two had a couple of games where you went into Ammo, and it was a gop, I remember going in, and like you actually were a normal person going in making your class and all that kind of stuff. I think you've got hack dot. is at the DOT hack series. Oh, you know what look, it's time for a break. If you were just listening to me, make a fool of myself. You're probably doing it on one of the podcast. 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Glamor more quests, and this one has mostly negative reviews currently usually they're around sixty ish, so they're never good games. I sort of like going into a world is a real person, then having the alternate world, so I like those stories that the storylines themselves i. think that's Great. The hack series armor a little of I. Like those kind of things. They just don't think they were ever spent. A nobody ever spends a lot of money on them. You know so. They just, don't they? They never review that well. It's unfortunate, but. gross code I think has like eighty two or something. METACRITIC brutes review or open. That's good. That's good. That's awesome for them I. Mean It looks I'm going to be honest like look. Why is it turned me off because I'm not have revenue? Pixel! Yeah. Definitely had some really good reviews. I saw a couple of big company. Folks Review It. I don't know if you guys saw I. Don't know why pop into my head did you guys see that the game informer ex editor went to work for EA. It's going to cause no into fucking. People being like you know like questioning their work. The that's the thing that I hate us like those kinds of things that don't that shouldn't affect me. Affect me because somebody would be like. Yeah, but now that person went to work for EA. Just goes to show that everybody's in bed together. Blah, Blah Blah I just saw the news. Somebody deemed me and it was like. Like do you WanNa talk about this? It's like Ed, mcman, McNamara or something. He was a longtime game informer. I think it was game. Informer editor went to work for EA but I. Always Tell people fuck guys. Don't worry about it and people. People move this indie guy who's making this game that register talking about. That doesn't mean that tomorrow. He won't work for fucking Microsoft. That's what happens, right. Working to small kind that's business now. Exactly, that's the way it should be. Allow people to move around Oh. Hey, I want to rate the box art for PS five. This is important stuff. Guys the soccer. This last couple of days. Man. I'm glad we're talking about this, so ps. Five box art I don't know if anybody saw this. They showed the first look of the upcoming. PS. Five box art basically sort of there was there was some that looked like they were black and blue, and then some that were white and blue. ridged edged whatever you may say, whatever you may call it I think it's super important I, think we should all talk about the art style these boxes yes because. I mean. Else that affects me more. Than the fucking. So I'M GONNA post. You guys in the chat. Here's the blog and playstation. This is important stuff playstation. Themselves did a blog on this. Go check it out. Go read it. Give Him a heart and a thumbs up. Share that story. So they show spied radically different reverently That's perfect you've you if you if you notice top bar is now white. Yeah, exactly and sorry I'll give you a moment to absorb that. Big, let me. Give you an let me break your your brain a little bit more Johnny Goto this link and look at the link on the left and tell me why they thought that. The Bar on the front of the box would not match the white of the bar on the, spine. It looks like somebody with bad photo made it. Well Lord, yeah, Lord! Lord I personally I think I think they should just be destroyed this company I. Think this proves that. It's not like the size of different amount inside Rigatoni. Dude I'm telling you. Is That fucked up though legitimately? I don't care about a box art because I'm not collecting the boxes don't care should be. It should mean connect. Admittedly when I saw it and I'm not ocd about that stuff. Look at my heart. I do all my art. None of my matches because it's me doing it, I. Don't have any money. But even I would go fuck and those things need the lineup within a couple of pixels Romaine. It looks like the throng this like fifty percent of the side one. At least so there is there is like. They cut it by fifty I. It's just weird is just. I think it's because they want. To be the same like overall size, the word ps five. Books. It just it looks bad, but whatever whatever you know. What guys if you're arguing about this or if have reclaimed about this man, walk outside because this is such a small deal in your lives. Not The box is still the same color still like the actual plastic is this. Current, if I was a game company same park in triangular box. With anything else I do. I'll always wondered if some consoles didn't have flat tops on purpose because they didn't want. Something on top of it dreamcast casted that Sega Genesis. Do that and I've always been like. Were they doing that on purpose? So it's like they just pretend it's art in real life. It's so that it has to be like you know front and center because you can't sell anything on it. The question. A second rumors spawned from this. Spiderman may not be exclusive because the leak didn't say yeah. Whatever okay I see. That was a joke I was like what is happening right now. Yes, it's exclusive. The company fucking is owned by them for chrissakes whatever? No one cares. There's your box art. I mean I, don't know maybe some people like do some people like tape these to the wall, so they walk in and the first thing they see every night is their collection of box art on their games like I. Don't get it I. Don't know why anybody would care. It's just a box I see I see the becks of games, but that's it there. I mean they're. There yeah. New World Delayed to twenty twenty one what? That's actually news so new world pretty rough. A lot of people doing the Beta loose attend. Who Hates? Everything hated it and he was. Now? And he was saying it was really rough, and we were trying to figure out why it was planned for this for this year, but it looks like it was delayed and I. Think if it was delayed. That's the best. Oh there, we go! Yeah, I said delayed. It is delayed delayed again now coming spring, twenty, twenty one. A, thank you very much guy days. Nice talking to you on twitter to the way. I think that that makes sense and I hope we see more games. Do this guys. If you feel like you can like, you are vested in some game in that you you know. You. Have some control over when they release. You're wrong. You know. Let them delay. Let him delay, let them work on it. That game is in rough shape already already been changed. What one two three times? A giant parts of it have been changed I think this is fine. Let's see what we can get out of. It I must on those all the published other game, the crucible and unpublished again they're doing. The all perfect name, because if you look at the crucible, means it really. It, so it's like literally example no, not only that, but if if usually at least I if I think Roosevelt's immediately, that's the. If, you search for. Gaming it the right now. I was just saying. It's funny that the title of the game is what it's going through right now. It's very own crucible. It's it's. Going through its title but yeah bad name right like it is just too much. It's too tied into something else. We were talking about that. I think on Matty's. Maybe we talked about on here, but I was like quick naming your game and nine right or like. Before with the four, I can't remember if we talked about on this one. Make it easy for people to search it like that's super important. Yeah, today's Day and age it like if you're indie developer I would tell you make it so that a youtuber can type it incorrectly, too. I mean as their title. Because if you don't, they're the ones who are GONNA marketing your game in the future. You GotTa make sure that you play the game when it comes to titling and remove war. Shadow! Tactics war shadow and. Just in general, the preposition of removal of we're not allowed to have of in our game anymore. Do that do that. You're making me happy. Sky Days is gifting to subs. Thank you very much sky days. Glad to have you here. So that is PS. Five super important done talking about the box art. Also, Some extreme to new world as I was flying. those who preordered. Or signed up for the BETA. Beta will still get excess for limited time to the original launch date so August twenty fifth. You'll still be able to sample. What the current status Al, then probably agree that it was a good idea. That's actually that's A. that's cool. I didn't know that they were doing that that circle. So I Let's see the questions down here podcasts. I've got podcasts questions on twitter. We'll go through them first and then we'll jump into. A bunch, we still have a bunch of stuff to talk over so I'm just going to do some of these Gilbey. Says expect Microsoft to take a large hit on series, X. and especially lockhart price in order to boost market reach. Prowling all the series. I mean Microsoft's business is. Pretty much subscription based yeah. So. It would make more sense for them to maybe sale at. Properties Zero Prophet I. Don't think they'd go into negative. Territory makes you don't think that makes a lot of sense to do that, nope? Malevolent monkey in the unlikely event PS five in Xbox Ver- released versions of Sky Rim, we'll fix the bugs. No will move on from there. That was a weird question. No. Christopher says how do you feel about the rumors and patents? Pertaining to PSI backwards compatibility rumor, has it that is cloud based. And I'm thinking true. They'll definitely use the xbox your technology. Nobody seems to speak about as your. Though that's because you're isn't really cool thing to talk about. It's like we said. We said ten cents by war frame. We didn't say ten cents by the Chinese company that owns were frame because that's not a frame of reference people no. I don't think anybody cares about as you're as much as care about how they're doing it I will say this. No I won't. Yes I will hang on. Let me think what I can get away with. My experience was streaming games both NDA not indie aid in the last. Two months has been terrible. And I can tell you right now. If backwards compatibility is based around a streaming technology. You're fucked. And I'll get to that in the next couple of weeks, but I'm telling you right now. That is not what you want. Do not want streaming technology. Want it inside. You want an emulator inside your hardware. You do not want streaming backwards compatibility. That's all I can say for right now, but we'll talk about it in the next. Couple of weeks. Daniel Hickman wanted to know if we have some unforgettable gaming moments. Tongue. Let's go with. Let's go with I talked about this in the discord. Let's go with like. A heartfelt moment. That should be hard for me. Because I have a heart. Let's go with heartfelt moments, so let's go with a moment that made you. What's a game that made you have a ton of feels. A moment again, sorry. That's still fairly easy for me. Last of us one the first hour. That's true, even though that is true, that is true. That is a good example. It may not have continued that, but that I our awesome in last one. Admittedly Mendip. has held, but it's very effective. Yeah, yeah, that thinks foreshadowed. It's how foreshadow something if you can. They did it, but yeah that would be a good example. What about your Johnny feels game? What's a fiamme meals moment again? My my biggest one that stuck with me throughout the years was the original final fantasy seven. There's something that occurs. Later into the game that's like. fucking tragic. And it's you know was impactful and I. I didn't think it was going to happen. either. Because in those games, it's always like. It'll be fine. It will. It will work itself out. And there was that one occasion where it didn't. and. It was very very sad. I have to say I don't actually feel that sad with games often at all. Maybe it's because I don't play games that can try to pull. The strings are way too much. But that's like my biggest memory. Niro Thomas. Felt plea emotional at times, began of the music and stuff. I think they did a great job with the characters having like pseudo consciousness stuff to where you you kind of. Wrestled with that. Mine would be lost Odyssey for the three sixty. It was very sad game overall. It was a sad game with the character. It was a sad that was the one where the guy couldn't die. The warrior can it was just and he like there were all these poems that were like really sad. I mean yeah. It was emo dot com like it was everything you would expect. It was Lincoln Park Song video game for him, but it was still like. It was still. That is Sky Days that is a disgusting. Comment you put into which I have. No Clue skied as loses his shit. Everything's normal and then fucking bom, and you're just you're reading. This is thing going like what the fuck. Oak Oxen Free Yeah Oxen. Free would be Oxen. or or he wanted to for me. Yeah. That is true. Yeah, that is true. I'll go with oriented well, or your oxen took. Those are really good choices for games, probably also because games were. That's what I was gonNA say for Las. Odyssey when rediscovers his daughter and she dies? That's actually what I was GONNA say. It's old enough game. I guess I won't Spoil It for anybody only twenty years old. Dude I went into another discord yesterday. No life. These two guys were so mad at each other. If it was normal, and then they got, they were going back and forth, so they forgot spoilers. You know how it is when you're typing. You don't want to put two brackets. You WanNa be I, WANNA be heard. They both want to word. It degenerated and I came in later and I was like what the fuck you guys do. Did you guys realize this even happened like it was totally normal, and then it was like no, you're wrong. You're wrong, and then it was like no, you're wrong, and then it just was like well. What if this person killed this person and that person I was like Oh shit games only like a month and a half. You guys need to calm your Shin. Oxen free is one game. I picked because of your review one game. Wow! Not only. Got The one. That you succeeded one time out of. All the others. Pregnancy has a hard time happening so I'm I'm slightly, but pregnancy I guess let's see what are. We got far cry five leaked. This is still from twitter. What obscure game would you like to see? Books based on example missed games have books and they are bad. That's a really good example. Yeah in chat same thing what game. What obscure game would you like to see? A book made out of curium? Yeah like. Let's say just you know we don't want to say dragging. Ranked well. That's not really an obscure game. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I thought you were asking what we meant obscure. I'm just pondering Oh gosh. Saudi wealthy of mobile a game about like a character, just living his life just trudge. Oh, Koerbel space. No, that's not. That's not obscure but Koerbel. Space Program as a book would be hilarious. They blew up again. Rebel galaxy. That's a good fell foul. Do you mean rebel galaxy from the PS two the game like the RPG? Or do you mean the spurs the outlaw? The recent one. I'm I'm waiting to see what Kettani Zero? Serious Sam binding of Isaac Echo. Sick. That would be well to be on mass kind of. Does have like some. Madden but lemmings yeah. Some of these are awesome. The one where you're ship from your aunt, okay, different game. We happy few. We happy few would be yeah. That's you know we happy few. Has the problem of not being a good game. But Rolled is quite interesting and we have. let's see. Christian says the importance of mental health during the pandemic in quarantine, and how video games can help you get through? Oh, this is a topic. The importance of mental health during the pandemic and Quarantine. How Video Games can get you through those times I know that's heavy topic. Not that heavy. I mean we talk about this stuff a lot I think. If you play the right ones they do, but I think. It's interesting. Yeah, go ahead, Johnny? What's interesting there is. I don't think there's a clear connection like positive or negative between playing games, and like a good mental health situation. Because I think it can go either way right it's. It's almost like anything else like a tool like if you're using it. Well, maybe in combination with other stuff like you know. Maybe you are A. Some other stuff to move around and and feel a bit, you know. Pump up your brain chemistry some other ways to I think it can be a great thing to add into the mix, but if you're only thing, it's almost like you're only escape is games like you use it as some kind of crutch to escape? Everything all the time. I think that can actually be you know kinda negative. At least it was for me in the past. Maybe it works for some people not I don't think there's a direct connection. No. Direct connection, but I think that people. Like you said it's a to I think one of the big issues that happens with games. Is You also don't know what you're GONNA. Get in I, mean imagine thinking you want to jump into a fucking game to be positive and turns out to have like some horrible connotation. You didn't expect, and then you're now worse off. It's almost like. You know listening to depressive music when you're depressed. Does it help some people? It feel it helps. Some people feel that Myers Amorin. Depression for me I would say with Games. Also I get solitary feeling when I play games. A lot of times even if it's an Emo, there's something about it's like this is not me. This is my Avatar. You're experiencing so like to me. I would say games would probably not helped me through. Let's say an isolation as much role might. But like not a game because instead what I find is i. go into chat or I talked to people. I don't I don't WanNa. Play a game to get me through isolation. I play except for passing the time. It doesn't help me. Mentally get through I. Mean like you said it's one more thing to do. Maybe, but I pay you know write poetry. Wash my dogs. What are you guys do other than like. What do you do other than? Games and like youtube stuff. Zehr is doing Japanese right. You still amaze. Yes As I've been working. Every day almost every hour I do a little bit. No Shit! You're jumping, so is your plan. Your plan is just try to just jump there right like a gopher trip. You're not like living there. No, no, no, no, no living there, but you just want to be able to like. Have have some good sentences you. Can you know and you'll have your phone? She can be like. Where is the shitter? Well hopefully, not hopefully without the lack I don't even know how I don't even know what those words are, but hopefully you'll be able to just be like I'm. Then it'd be especially especially, that is very important because you have to ask for voiced and style toilet, otherwise you'll get a hold in the ground. Yeah, that is true. That is true you get. Very bored, what about you joining other than the stuff were known for like music and and Youtube and games zehr anything. Like Exercise and also reading some stuff I've been reading this. I have it over here. I've been getting into Japanese Horror Manga. Right now I'm reading Jill. which is kind of crazy art style stuff? Like horror, but in this super impactful. Can Black and white style with you know crazy stories. And so this Guy Junji you tell he's got several of these volumes of stuff. This is the second one I've been reading. It's very very good, and then there's another one called Tommy that I'm GonNa read after vertical? What got you into? A friend in just a friend that I that I met online through my stream. She was like. Hey, this is really cool. I think it would like it. At first I was like I. Don't know if it's my thing I? Give it a try and really worked so just one of those times a lot of times. People recommend stuff, right. It's like Oh. You love this. You will love this. You know it doesn't really I get a lot of those but it. This was one of the Times where it really hit sued. It's like whenever you mentioned you like fantasy books. People like you should definitely try this and it's like I don't know if I'm just different than everybody else, but that's not how it works. If a book just has a sword in it, that is not you need more than that right? There's a similarity. Yeah, there's multiple things in a game that I need and I'm GONNA put myself back up here and see have no clue what's going on with my camera software today now I'm just to. Mike going for you guys. Or my froze. SUP, everybody's watching. I think we're all froze. Give us a second. Okay I've I hung up and just call back I. Think I'm still froze. Can you hear me the? But froze. And Dude. Look how contemplated by look. I'm just like. You look you're fairly pissed. Well do my best. I spent so much time I'm going to try to get this. Going again is so much time at my old job, probably four or five years an admittedly I was I'm one of those guys that people would probably tweet about you know and be like he was mean his job. I was there were things that we needed, and there were times where people didn't WanNa do it and you had to be like you need to. Your job requires this. My job requires me to get you to do it. You know those kinds of things happen, and I remember about four years in. We had one of those team building. Have you guys ever had to do a team building event? Did Okay so in America I. Don't know if it's like this for you guys, but in America team building event does exactly the opposite. Exactly the opposite is. Everybody in your body hates everybody. No one wants to be there, so we go to the team building event, and this is the only positive. We got out of it one time. One of my workers was telling their part of like how they listened by Blah. I was like well just so you know I've always been accused of looking mad at somebody when I'm actually listening when I'm talking a lot I'm listening, but not as intently, but when I'm like. And I look like I'm taking a shit. Slash really angry. That's actually when I'm. Like, I'm giving you the staredown. Actually Listening Ryan Die Admit. There were multiple in the room. who were like Oh like it? was that thing where they're like? I get it I thought he was mad at me all the time. I was like. Yeah, you know so, it does happen. We were by the way anybody who runs an office or does business. Don't do team building men just give some pizza. Let them get on your way. FUCKING team building sucks. We had those things where the like let's list out seven things about yourself and make a cloud chart of your your stride, dude so forth contrived. brown-nosing, it's like yes. This person is forced in what they like meaning. They're a jackass. Right it was. It was always that that really soft language of being like. You know, or or have you ever had to interview? Somebody like what's your worst trait and everybody says the same thing I'm really hard on myself, or Like you. Know Right. Now Shit. You're full. You're the big and we would know we'd be job if somebody said that we'd be. You know that wouldn't immediately knock them the job where we'd be like now that's not that's not how people work men you need to like. Listen to what and occasionally have a person who's like I. Have a hard time getting to work and I'd be Oh okay. The person's truthful. You have a hard time getting work I can. I can actually respect I'm not saying that person would immediately get the job if they had to be. Okay he don't. But if somebody's like I have a hard time getting up in the morning I'd be like dude. That's that's. That's putting your your balls out there to be smashed in. That's really yeah, somebody who's like you know the the one percent of time I'm not perfect I have really heard time. You like flack. What five words best describe you? Get the fuck out of here. In you know what works well in my company. They do like socials and like so sometimes we do like game night where we have a like a casino in the office. Where like poker? Blackjack all that stuff, so you've naturally get to talk with everybody because you're going through the tables, their prizes and stuff like I, won my ps four I one at the Casino night playing poker, which was epic so that that's like a bonding thing that you have with people and like that we do like sometimes quiz nights where we go to a pub and we do quiz, so you're put in a team with people you've never talked to from different departments. You could be like with someone from HR or sales whom you've never. Interacted with. A sudden you have to kind of work together and stuff I feel. That's a bit more of a natural way to get people to. So you're saying putting people with the people they've never talk to in an environment where they're quizzed is natural. What could go wrong? Look pushes your boundaries. That's true. We would because I. Put those on at my old job. That was my job was to was to put those on, and there were certain groups tech included. We knew that the I team would just not want to go to anything. They were their own click. That's yeah, i. t is click there. Don't get this and they know it because they do something. No one else can do like somebody else might be able to write well, and somebody else can write very well, but when it comes to tech, only one guys that database guy. There was usually one database guy assis- ADLEMAN and they. They knew a little bit about each other did, but like if you were like Hey Hey, can you like bitch? No, that's not my like. That's not my thing right. If you come to me about what I'm doing I, know it and I'm the best at it, you know. That was their attitude and they had their click. They were friends with each other and you. Just there was no. You know you were bounce off of it. There was no way to the man you put those people in a group with other people, and it was just a disaster. They didn't WanNA. Talk to anybody and what's so funny, too, is they're the ones the communication guys? They handle email and telephones like myself. I did tell and yet they're the least com communicate of of all the Bruce. Like! It's so weird to put the person in charge of talking about Shit and doing shit who wants to talk to no one and never wants to come into work. They want to sit at home and they're under roofs with a little footy pajamas. Silver Hawkins I disagree. People lose. Weight Silver Hawkins shouldn't be talking and chat. He's the one who said he couldn't show up. For the PODCAST, so he better, you better be in here. Mum, what else do we got going on? I'll read the rest of these in in twitter late or do we have any in discord in equal questions? Johnny Yeah. Let's go to Prim entropy. He has a number of questions We might circle back Prim, but to give everybody a shot. Let's do one question and then. Someone else so. First question, what video game character would you want as a best friend? That's cool. Oh. Faster. Counts because that's my answer, Mack. Okay Yeah. I think to to be from Eurotunnel. I would like to explore her. Consciousness boundaries. And pigs for. Science. Jesus. Reg. From fallout. Fallout characters be cool though. Really, cool characters fall actually like side characters. Johnny. Not. Probably, take a take along with you. Did you like the mass effect, characters, rich, garrison or rex? Share would be. Dope! Be, pretty, cool and a lot of people would like to garrison. I was more of a fan of rex, just because you liked to head bone people to assert dominance which I just find. It's so. He's like a soccer hooligan, but in an alien world All Right, so those are answers. What are we got? What's up? What what other questions? Kind of Tonia says we have seen our fair share of masters and remakes of largely beloved franchises. What have been your personal highlights from announcement to release? Is there any game series that could still resurrect for the next Gen that would top this for you. So there's a fair bit there to unpack I, guess, it's. what have been your personal highlights. From announcements to release. Shot in the second part is yeah. Shot Listen. Name was trying to remember, but. Guardian and do it wasn't that because that one first of all was never remake and just never got made, but I think shadow of the Colossus. When you look at like just from a pure tech standpoint just how it all came together. That was a pretty awesome Ra- master. I would go with that. Differ enough I gotTA go t thirst club again final fantasy, seven seven. I think we're GONNA see seven. It was. It's good. But from a purely like technical standpoint, I was less. Impressed by that than I thought it was going to be if that makes sense. Like my glasses were so tif tinted that it felt like the game of year. while. Yes, okay, easy easy to get resident evil two. Oh. Two. That's better than mine. Resin evil to is. That thing. Nuts. And, it just goes to show you. You have to work really hard to do it. Because three didn't do as good to was fucking. Off such a good remastered damn in always to was to as amazing. What are the questions we got in there? Saito the Baptist says during the month of July with maybe not a great deal of big releases. Will you be revisiting games. You played before to check out new content or patches. We try new Windy Games. We go through your library. Games tried titles. He never touch their played. I'm doing odyssey. You yeah what. Not to say I thought you did all deal seat. I'm starting to again I thought, he said. I am revisiting yeah. Oh okay generally. Literally. Is there any particular reason or he just hate you like I want to get some more of that. Different character maybe. No I think I think. I WANNA play it until I. DON'T WANNA play. It's really weird. There's always been a desire to return to play it so I'm gonNA play Intel like. Don't WanNa play it again, and that will probably be the last time I install it. I'm going to go through a lot of the other AC games but I think it's fun dude, aren't. Just got done playing a couple of games for review and bubble, Blah and returning to Odyssey. To old game, it feels like I'm going to a very fun big game where I can do a lot of stuff. If there's not that I can't get by can figure that out pretty easily. It's not it's not gated. It's not like a dark souls. It doesn't require you to jump in. Admittedly you can jump in you. You know some of the COMBOS and stuff you'd be like fuck. You die once or twice when you start, but there's so much stuff and I love the guided world. I'm a big fan of turn in the Hud off in that game and having them be like there's a guy at a port town. Who Need you get out of that out, and it just engages me to go. Okay I'll figure it out by running there. I'm also a big fan of not using the horses in any of these games. I can't you know. Obviously, there's other games I'm reviewing right now and I can tell you right now. You have to force me to get on a horse every time because I feel it passes I feel like I can miss something, so I'll just be like that's true, so I run, and you always have to get down from the horse right to interact with anything. Yeah, so that's true kind of the. Any any VAZZA return to. Well I mean for me. cross-code would be one. That is something I had previously played on PC. I didn't even know how hopes up again. yeah, it came to pass like I think I. WanNa say two years after the originally released on Steam, oh Gotcha and I'm revisiting debt now. At the sign in that or the location is like you said without the in Z, so you get a general location like it's in that area, but you don't get any. Quests mini met point or anything. You have to actually go by text to where this. That's fun. That's fun. Janis well. That's one of them and. Usual. Fallback is always scrolls online. And, at least with elder scrolls, always constant new content, too. Much content I've never seen yeah, well that that this is just so big. Johnny. Yeah I've I've done a fair bit of metal gear solid five, which is a game. I never got the play back in. Today is very fun. But but then also been doing a lot of monster hunter this week. As I, told you guys, which is something I had dropped for months basically, and now come back to it in a big way, and also playing Catherine full-body on switch, which is kind of a smaller released, but still pretty cool. Is that nuance which. came out this week. Gotcha. So jump from questions for a second. I just saw this and I hadn't seen in. Janis notes L. A. New are the VR case files devastates working on a triple A. Open world. VR Game with Rockstar. Boom So. Winded this. I should say this information is coming from link thin, so the team work done Lesnar. VR files is recruiting people specifically for that. Their description is a triple A. Vr. Open world. Which got me pretty excited? Because have we seen? Like a true open world, Vr game aside from. Additions where you have right Skyro-. Follow. I don't think we have and I gotta say those guys I think the are files is amazing and I think. Because of the timeframe and the speed at which cars don't go, you know because you're not in like. That would be a game where I would play the hell out of it if they were like l.. A. New are to the are title, because look at Alex men I mean Half Life Alex nailed shooting. It nailed shooting. It got it perfect so a shooter in a half life. World nailed it in. Maybe we're seeing other companies seeing that success insane fucking man. Let's just go for it, you know. Yeah. I would I would die for that would be awesome. I didn't I didn't even see that I'm glad I'm glad I saw that. It seems to me like anything like that. Being announced now though you're talking three years. Oh Yeah. I don't know if it's even officially announced at all. I think it was just like. The starting of a project. That's the thing is if we hear about anything other than Bethesda and Microsoft to are starting to hold back announcements everything else like if they announce it now. Going to be a while, we don't even know if yeah if it'll happen. It anybody else do the. Files but me, did you do them Ridge? I tried to do them, but it didn't work for me and I never tried the Dallas. Did you fall through the floor and shit. The just not didn't even I think it didn't recognize the controllers Gotcha Jeff. Issues didn't know why I've never done it. Man I love Lane Lar-. It's one of those like just never done it, but. But I think you speak highly of it and many others to write overall it's. Done is set. Yeah VR files very well done. I mean it is basically three new cases and VR and it there if feels like. It feels right, but it works. It's one of the few. Thank you very much wicked critter for the bits and thanks for people subscribing Victoria subscribed for six months. You Rock. Thanks for subscribing. You can use prime to do that if you don't WANNA pay Rio cash use the cash already paid for prime speaking a prime. We were talking about this yesterday. So many new shows coming out so many new shows connected to games connected to movies connected to books coming out. It is crazy now. Every day I wake up and there's like. We'll be. Somebody mentioned a game and you'll find out that like. There's a TV show. There, we've got. We've got what Lord of the rings coming out soon. Nice Vr site title that I can never play because of quarantine away from the PC. Quarantine away from your PC. What Explain that explain explain yourself. Explain yourself right now. Would you be quarantined away from your PC? Technically. Shady disease. I can deal with a disease where I have to quarantine away from my PC. That's fucked their apparent, so they must. I'm at parents Oh right right right okay, and your apparent I'm like I'm still not quite understanding on. Stopping Yeah I got you. That's that's shitter. We're in quarantine for in in this house in particular for the next five or six days and I gotTa. Tell you people don't realize. The guy worked at home for for Youtube. That's one thing, but when you get to people. You know. I'm a firm believer that people who are married people have family. Life should do other things like roommates. If you roommate with your best friend, you gotTA. Make sure that they have their own life. And you have your own life because it, you know it gets. It gets uncomfortable and I gotTA. Tell you man. I can't wait till the shit's over. Having somebody in me, all the time is so uncomfortable. It's so uncomfortable. You just want your own spot. You get away from me. Maybe this is me. Maybe this is not the way him but I. Just don't want somebody around all the time. And why would they want me around all the time like God? That's terrible, character watching Saturday. Yes, we are as where this is going to be a horrible weakened by the way I apologize beforehand. If I'm snippy with anybody, I'm going to try to stay away from discord because there's a shift work and. I noticed. The last couple of days have been like snappy and just like I'm tired. There's a lot of I think there's a big thing to with like people needing some kind of personal time to process stuff like for example, if some, let's say in the case, where your your wife is may be used to doing a commute to work or something yet. Where maybe that's a time for her to to process shit, right listening to music or podcast whatever it is. And all of a sudden. That's not there anymore. Now as you say, you're in the same space, and that time is not there fully, and it's not that you know you guys don't like each other's. Just that like. The dynamic is Kinda shifted, and you need to find a new balance, and it's kind of difficult right or I don't know right now. I'm living alone, but no dude. Dude yeah, but you're living alone, so you have your own process imagine suddenly. I'm their feet up on your desk. UNWASHED COBB Dogar feet up their dirty on the bottom and I'm like Johnny and you're all dude seriously. I need like five minutes alone, because sometimes you just want to make some Mac and cheese. You don't want anybody in your in your like fuck refrigerator area walking passive. Scrubbing the cans. Off that. But yeah, it's it's. It's weird man and it's like it's only gonNA. Get worse than then after all this. We still have things like the economy being fucked where people who jobs no longer matter I have a friend who's a of all things vacation they sell. Vacations are traveling. So. What happens? What do you say all the time? They'll always be people who wants to travel because that thought process never entered anybody's mind now not to be rude, but a lot of people when they don't have a job. They get one or two jobs a real estate agent. Or a travel agent that is I'm not being rude. A lot of people who like have no a lot of experience, but maybe are pretty socially. Those can actually turn out to be quite well. That's why you see. I'm just speaking from the people. I know a lot of adult movie. Stars will sell real estate later. Be Actors will sell real estate better or later because they. Maybe they have some charisma, or you know that might be a job. Where looks can assist them or connections, and those jobs are gone. They're gone like right now. Real estate in my local area. You can't go to see it. You use virtual headsets. They quite literally ship you a headset and use a quest to look around the house. You're not allowed to go into the house so. Yeah, it's crazy. There's a lot of things going to change and I think that's that's. That's rough for everybody. Yeah, we'll be doing the podcast. guys for UBISOFT. Wants to watch these things. Because all you guys ever do is get snippety during them. I don't know why. Half the time people are like you know what did total biscuit. Call Them. START CAST, yeah! Pretty much. Yeah, yeah, it's almost like a lucid. Dynamic like where's? where he just shows up and he's like just I hate you and that's the starting. I hate you. Episode Lusitan is profoundly. Positive when it comes being teased about being profoundly negative. That's what I love about him. Get on him and he's like Oh come on. fucking hate this game. You'll be like exactly dude. What are we talking about? I? Just love him I love him. He's like one of my favorite additions the podcast it is weird. I mean you should see. He should be very happy now. With new world being pushed next year that means started will probably be a couple more wipes, so he can replay game stream at four hundred and be like dude. This game shit! Watch me stream it just. The. Lead. Breeding in the fucking in the chat was just like. Okay whatever he he actually. He. But you know what sometimes you do. WanNa play those Shit Games. You want others to see it with like this is shit as I'm saying you need to watch you know like. Now I don't like your friend who smells something terrible in the fridge and it's like Oh my God! Right. Like. I told us on the you open. It again limits. Yeah, we'll try to figure. fucking collapses. It's like I'm not going to grab it and go and have you guys ever seen that? Movies or one of my favorites is always like taking a sip of something new, and it's like after sales. Awful, you want a yeah. The PISS, why did you just? Don't think it tastes terrible. Why would I like it? Serena's ruined. No Beta anymore now. You'll find something else to hate Lewiston I guarantee. Oh. Look like. Admittedly, he loves some games like path of exile. That dude is like the perfect fan for Pathak Excel. because. He's just be there forever. That's true for every time there's patch notes or something. Like you and well, you don't show up right away for elder scrolls I guess. Do you now that I think about it, but you do always return to it. No matter what at loosening I, think returns to it like right away. If something POPs up for that game, I know he's a huge distant lover. That's easy to your Lebron to. Fly Town and you give them the call ring a Ding like three. Am You like? A baby. And the jazz is playing the Becker. Where did this go anyway? What else do we got here? We were talking about that. We're talking about Let's see got Catherine full body Oh. You want to give your impressions on Caffeine full-body because you're. Is that okay yeah. I've been playing a fair bit of it on the switch and this again. That's already been released on the PS four the full body edition. And the the full body addition as as far as I. Understand ads like a new character. If I understood correctly, which is Rian writing? Her name is also. Cathrine, so you're basically mixed up with a bunch of Catherine. Women just spelled in different ways out. And the game. The game is largely like a social thing, so if you can think back to like persona and some of the social systems in that. But I feel with less choice, so you're more like on rails here more like a kind of. Narrative. Adventure deal and then they'd mixes that with. Puzzles. Case there's a lot of puzzles here in the puzzles are blocks. It's like a towers of blocks decline in the way you. Climate is by pulling or pushing blocks to create like a stairway like. A like a path for you decline basically, and that on paper sounds pretty boring, but. There's something about it. Impractical is kind of you. Get a bit in the zone with that and it's like you know enjoyable to do. It's also pretty short, so they're like short. Puzzle sequences. Let's say that are a nice counterpart to the to the otherwise heavily narrative stuff in social stuff. That's going on so you your thrust in a position where this is not a spoiler. Does this kind of the announcement you're? You're basically cheater, so you? You're in the relationship and you become a cheater and there is kind of weird weird stuff going on, and you're trying to figure everything out there. And you you, you're getting these crazy nightmares, which are the puzzle sequences and it all comes together like that there's also. One thing, a lot of people are happy about is because there's. A Trans girl in it's one of the characters. which you know, be happy to see more representation of that I feel at least that in here. It's not one of those cases where it's been put into like. To do a check like to check a box or something it kind of works with the story I feel, and it adds a bit of. Something Cold Air I. think that's well done as well so anyways. It's an interesting. Pick up on the switch. Emily's very well. How much is to Johnny? Thing full body is like full price. I think I paid I think I paid. Or pounds, something like that, which is probably like fifty dollars in the US shop. I would have to check for the exact price, but it I think it was close enough to full price. Is. Fifty yeah, so ten Bucks Info Price. Gotcha. My think when it comes to these prices what we're going to like? That one I feel like that one in particular just because of the subject matter and stuff sick full price seems like a lot I. Guess just for me. I. Don't know why, but it just seems like what I saw of it. I was sort of surprised. Does have a number of such titles day. also I think even this week released like two or three like full-on just visual novels, but for full price like sixty visual all novels. Really. I don't understand. WHATEVER SWITCH SWITCH DAX! They get away with it. Man, they just get away with like well. They don't get away with it. I mean we're talking about it so obviously. They don't but I mean at the same time. It's just never brought up which is weird because we're talking about the pricing and gaming all the time so just to. This case, we can't really blame Nintendo, because it's also full price on ps four. At the moment damn all right. So that's at least I see here forty nine pounds. Sorry forty, nine, nine, thousand, nine, very very different. Yes, of course, so the company. The company just knows what they're selling. People. I mean it is the same company that did resell US personal. No five royal price true a couple of days ago I was looking at one of the adult video game companies that does full. Full adult video games and surprise how far the technology is gone because you forget, you forget like unreal how well it can do things and if it's if you're if you're subject matters in a bedroom mostly, then you can use a lot of polygons for the other things and. Those other things were high polygon. Say. Wow! That's pretty high. Pretty pretty crazy stuff. but I think that. I don't know why I just hear about this kind of game. This puzzle game whatever I always assume more like thirty stuff. There's nothing wrong with sounded it. You know if you're if you're making sales on whatever I just think especially now when we're going to next Gen, prices are going to be so all over the place. It's going to be really think we're going to be able to identify anymore. What sixty means in fact I think it's been a long time since we really could what I mean by that is we've got some shit game sewn for sixty back in the day after your new and you remember because we. We used to go. That's forty. Just saying that's forty. We all knew what that meant Euro Jank. Right like that's to or not to him, but to two worlds, or that's you know. What were the other ones risen? job would go a game from Joe would like. We're like yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so now you have AAA games selling for fifty, nine, forty, nine, thirty nine. You have like these games that look amazing like a plagued tale, which let's be honest. Plagued tail beats okay. This is a good example. Plagued tail sold for I believe forty nine. When it was released, I could be wrong quantum break. I personally believe is worse. And was Microsoft's full price game. You know I think it probably. No, it wasn't even game. Pass because I think game pass wasn't even. A thing right when break came out or could be wrong, then it was not i. don't think it was a yeah. Alex so much junk so much fun yet. Helix is a blast, but. Games Janke. And and it looks. Baron like you walk around and like the debris systems aren't fully like you get a game like sinking city where the debris systems are cranked to a thousand, so it was like shit everywhere, and that also looks Janke then you get a game like Alex where it looks baron, and that also extinct. You have to do that middle ground. resonable three at sixty dollars yikes. Yeah, resident, evil, three blue I think it surprised a lot of people because they even tried to sell me. On like the replay ability of it as being a feature for the cost, and I was like not the way it goes. That is like Oh, you can replay it again. It's definitely where sixty was like you can replay anything wedding fucking. Shit on me, man! It's almost like they think they're like a hypnotist. They'll be like, but you can play it, but I can play anything he. Quantum break also had got off alive. shut up I. Don't like you. I liked quantum breaks. TV, show thing had lance riddick in at men. Yeah. You can get the hunter call of the wild for twenty hundred call. The Wild was free on game pass for years. Is it not for anymore? I think yes, one hundred call the while still on game pass because they said they were removing it, and then for whatever reason ever pushed the button I'm still wonder to this day. If that is like some dude, some tech guy is forgot to push the removed from game pass because they announced that thing was leaving, and then it was still there. Anyway and what's up? Happy hope everything's going well. The TV show in the game as well I liked the defiance, TV show in the game as well, listen, said Yeah Yeah. I definitely liked the game. Enjoyable multiplayer game. What else do we got? We got more questions. Yeah actually. We got a question from bionic stake. If, you could do one time travel experience. Would you go to the past or future? Where and when? I would go into the past sure. I can tell you that much, because you can't change the Bhaskar. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, but I'm going to the past because my chance of being you know knowing more, and whatever is much higher, you go to the future. You're just a fucking fish out of water. The entire time that is gonNA die GonNa. You're not going to know a rule. Emmy electrocuted for saying that. You like to read books right you. Who knows what the future Oh I mean the best you could also be. Already to not say those things reg I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure up. You could blend in yeah. I would be able to blend in I'd be like the idea and you know what you do pretty well. You'd invent a couple of things like I didn't invent butter or something like something useful. It'd be like Hey, man living in the past. Speaking the first. Bacon. Butter you'd be banging your you like you'd be constantly like you'd you know you'd be high-society? You'd be like this. Welcome Karaoke and people would bow they Curtsey, and they'd be like the inventor of Bacon and butter, and be like Lou and women would i. don't think the inventor of Bacon God. I would get rich from it. I'm not saying they got rich. Get rich because there's a lot of inventors who gave their shit away, not mean I'd. Go around killing. Many I'd be like they'd be all. Hey. I invented this thing that like churns butter I'd be like. No, you're doing karate chops star Trek Karate Chop in the back of the neck and I put him in the mill, and he would just be ground up and he disappeared. If do you do know you know how to not get dysentery right? Do People even know it disappears? You can stop. It's like somebody who says what if you get scurvy? You don't get scurvy. You know how to not get. SCURVY got right. Now like a random effect. Yeah, yeah, in a video game player, dysentery quite easily Jesus. The problem with the past it would smell really bad. Dude I'd be the inventor of buttered smell like butter. The fuck you talking about. I would just make people bathe and I would. Everything would smell like butter. I don't man is have very small imaginations. Man, get think about it. You could be the Hitman, and also murders would be so easy so easy. 'cause you I watched CSI I know how to murder people now I know I've seen CSI yeah I. Know I am those tricks they had in. Back then they don't have luminol to spray. Bloodstains this shipment. I'd be saying yeah. People people like there's been a lot of murders right when Carribean, but thank God. He's here to find. Out because you watch those old movies and they're like the investigators are touching everything with their bare hands like Lebron their translate. Like dogs scraping their Rossi floor and I'd be like dude. Fuck, I've murder everybody, nobody, be able to figure it out there. So many things just by watching a couple of TV shows you go back in the past, and you would just ruin and speaking of dysentery. You can give people illnesses if you wanted it, so it's so easy now I'm not saying I'm black like that, but I am saying if you win against me in the past, fuck you I'll give you a disease. Right I give you scurvy I. Remove all the Lemons in citrus from your lifestyle and be like trust me. It's better this way and they die. I didn't the paper clip. Wow, you menu have no machination sleeve. It's a good thing you're. A teacher continued passing on that. I'm just joking learnt. In characters underestimating how smart no I'm not I'm underestimating their technological abilities. Listen Up, buddy. There's a difference. Past Watch MK in the Dark Knight movie in the theater again. That's it just go to in the past. College of seeing what the like. Why would you? Do what does that do I don't understand your like yet. You have to go through all that shit again. Pastor ruin it for everybody else. Though because now he knows what happened, so he comes in and asks he's like that Dude's. The joker and everybody's like well. Yeah, we know he's got his face painted white and he's got what the. Like, yeah, what did you worth it time travel worth it. Peanut Butter popcorn cheaper so worth it. Here's one quick thought for you say didn't watch the movie in the theater. He would want to go back to experience it in the theater. Trust me, it's worth I'm pretty sure they do reruns. Of that is true. That is true, and you can rent theaters where I live very cheaply. You can rent a theater I'm not saying to pretend traveling to the past cheaper. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, exact-. Say Johnny. Okay think about this right if you go to the Far Future It could be that it's all gone and you teleporting to nothing, and then you die immediately. It's a it's a chance bud if people have gone past. All the problems that were facing you know. And it's like everything figured out. You could be a dumb ass in the Sea of super smart people who have figured out everything in a way so that you can just live life. And everything is fucking sorted out for you right? You don't really have to work right. You can do whatever the fuck you want your time. You can be creative or do whatever is all set up in a way that you can flourish as a human being, and I'm being the most optimistic I've been in. The ever in the PODCAST and So here's the thing. Umbrella company. There's some scenes about in passing future in that. And I think like the idea of jumping in the future scares. The Fuck Outta me because the idea of jumping into like yeah, armageddon would suck like what if you drop in like? Where is everybody? Boom mushroom clouds gone. Wrong time to jump in. Yeah, we show up and some dude got like two heads because of mutations. Yeah, no, thanks. I can deal without that. But in the past I know what happened for the most part of I'm sure. Some of it's been adjusted, but I would know at least how to keep myself from Diane for most things other than cut, I'd be worried back then you know you'd have to fuck and get some moldy bread. Matter of fact, invent penicillin and then patented. As quickly as possible right or just invest in a couple of companies like Ford. They'll be like we need ten dollars from you. I, mean legos Dude Go. Steal here's the plowed steal a Lego. Microsoft! Go back. And you know, create the legos. Stack Microsoft didn't Bill Gates. And what's his name? Didn't they? Take a thousand dollars? They were taking seed investors I. do believe Microsoft back then because they were talking about how much money they'd be worth, so yeah, we're working out of the garage, so they bitcoin or can buy law dude. One hundred bitcoin. Make sure you know when that big one comes into sell. Those guys were on a fucking boat on a yacht called like the bitcoin yacht adventure when it crashed, and multimillionaires turned two zero nares in the same second. That would have been a shitter. You're on a boat for six weeks. You know you like thinking. It's just gonNA. Be Abandoned. Good time you show up. They're like yeah. BITCOIN crashed. Oh! I got no money. No no money to get a helicopter. Fuck and fly myself off here. Apple took investors. One of them was forced gump. Oh here we go now. We got the scientists. If you tell the future likely, be floating Spaeth Space Earth would have traveled on its path by then F. Way I, if you travel to the past that same damn thing's going to happen. Where we're taking those into account. Humans won't be going anywhere for the next few thousand years. That is correct, maybe even longer. I just have this feeling man. How manic things are Elon, Musk announced twenty twenty two. He's landing on Mars. He is he. says. Millionaire you're. going. Up and everybody was a jackass on twitter. You can bet your life all his investors in extracapsular, and there will be some exit basis. Taking over. The Moon is due goodman in the futures. The big decoupled button on, you could write an entire story a very good probe, futuristic fantasy about like multimillionaires on a couple of planets, and how like no more and it's like you have like. Along ours instead of Mars vs on the moon, maybe one or two others, there's there's a couple of places where we could live without a horrendous amount, but. I think go with basis I think he thinks that'd be more reliable. Alone really smart and he's emotion inspirational these emotional. He's got really aggressive an antenna bowl deadline for his stuff. It's always like dude. In twenty twenty two were in Mars. I me and the odds are if you believe the all the weird personal stuff. Going on I wouldn't leave that dude anywhere near my girlfriend so like you know. Be Saas looks like that dude that like if he got if he got you know gnarly with you. Just pick them up scrap in the neck and he seems like. If you paid the right price, he'd take care of you. Yeah Him, and that's on the wrong him. People who run Amazon. Yes, yes, you could get in good. You'd have to take the oath of fucking loyalty in ships. It's no big deal like a tattoo on your forehead. Not Too yeah exactly. Implants for. Simpson's episode or Bone. Soup somebody subscribed Matt Baker. Subscribe twenty-three entire months. Man. We've been going on twitch then for at least that long. Which is weird when you think about it. Is I remember when we were uploading onto youtube. In Man, that's fucking up my numbers, my metrics because I get like two hundred thousand people watching a stream, or what people you angry, right call. You posted something. That's not a review. Dude. That's crazy I. Still get it for like a you know I don't know a preview video. Cam. You. Upload something that's free for May. And that is the reason. Upload a free video on the platform I can. Video I have turned off and watch something else, but I watched it all because it's free and nominee bitch damn. Crazy miss your reviews. Though yeah, they've been gone forever. I haven't done reveal in like six years. The. Was the last game I fucking review. Last of us. Oh. Yeah Yeah Yeah. You know. It's sad to me that the last of us is mostly talked about because of the. You know the issues and not the game itself makes me wonder in a year or two like. What people are gonNA. Think between the last of us to and one you know. Because I think a lot of fans are gonNA. Find out that they liked one more. Than they like to. I don't know if that's true. Because the game play in is pretty good, but it just I don't know something about. It feels like to is going to get lost. In all of this shit, All this diatribe people going back and forth now you Jim Sterling did a video about Troy Baker. Saying stuff you know. Everybody's doing videos about everybody else. SORTA sad. Trying to start doing I'm gonNA start dropping videos about every video about videos do do men lawn? Is Getting Real, Meta I'M GONNA do Eli I'm do Elon Musk videos. Young was the most young was the most was the one most close to my feelings about it. All Right? Okay Gotcha Gotcha. This is the reaction. Copy. That's the thing, right? That's why you listen to a variety of people. Yeah. You can't just rely on one person having perfect alignment with your like. System and makes sense. Men does support person like myself on patron. which is you know how I feed my children and my start my starving child as well as my starving wife. That's how I feed them, so if you go to paper now you can also for five bucks. Get entry into the discord. I'm not saying you should just saying that people will start if you don't. that. Is think of the dog sinking the. Ship put in have What's her name Sarah McLaughlin, singing a sad song. Yup Dude talk about Oh. I want to kill her. She ruins every Sunday man. You'll be sitting there and you'll be like I'm feeling good sitting down, you sit down to twitter and it'll be like you know in the homes. It'd be like fuck. Don't show me. This man gotTa. Hate that Shit. Happens I don't need to I matter of fact. I have a news aggregate on my tablet where you open it up and it aggregates, Tech News and all that and somehow. Like a sad. Animal Channel got in there and like I'm not lying, so I'd be like. Sega may release a dreamcast Tuna Mike Fuck. That's awesome, and then they'll be like. This dog was killed at the pound and then Slav for their skin, and you're just like Oh my God. What a Combo Breaker Oh do! They were terrible. I'd actually delete the I had to delete the APP because I believe it was one of those ones where they had sponsored being on there, which I completely firmly back, but I just don't need to have my entire week ruined by. Keenly and I don't see I. Don't need to see human sad stories, either by the way 'cause I've had to tell silver multiple times start looking at positive ship. 'CAUSE silver find then most age shit posted in this. In the middle of Africa News what just like why why we know this? Let's see character, dog must have diet of all stakes every meal. Yes exactly! No, they don't, but they do. They do eat pretty well. They better than me. Health more healthy. That's for sure. Next month is my one year and the patron discord Pentti says. Look that copy. Here's my response Simone. Copy. You want us to celebrate for. You wants to give you some time we appreciate joking do. You guys saw Mike Perry video. I don't know what Mike Perez. Me Neither man. Have the time when people come up with these like super popular youtubers or something I'm just like. Got, nothing, that dude. I got nothing on Twitter I. Got Dude I'm the most up to date on news that matters which means that we'll never include youtube and twitch. It won't. I just don't care about that kind of stuff. For the most part, the only thing I care about is a Lindsey through a dog that one time, or whatever like that pissed me off. Cat People are cat cat thing. People were also saying the doctor disrespects. People still don't know why cannot. Deny Perez UFC fighter. So probably that's one. Oh. Okay Gotcha. You. Know what I don't watch I don't follow them either. You know another I, think about it. I follow myself because I'm egotist. That's it. Follow Myself. And I I believe. EV- every time. Carrick talks I believe what he says. He's probably the only reviewer I watched CHARAC. Vodka she got out. Cat didn't Derek say he had covert last week. They're talking about. You've seen how you guys doing what you have seen. I think I'm the only one in here that you right. Why why not do you not like the idea of people hitting or does it not interest you? Are you anti it or are you just not interested? I'm again their steph themselves and each other senseless all I care but I. don't need to watch it, yeah. But you don't feel distaste I. Guess is what I'm saying does. What's Yeah? What about you Johnny? Is that just never watched it? It's never been easy for me to like. Catch it on. TV would need to pay a kind of an expensive subscription to see it, so it's always been that barrier. That's like I. Don't know if I. Might be cool I mean. I do listen to podcasts. Where like some of the people are either fighters from back or Or you know? They fight now the there's something about like the discipline of martial arts that I find. Translates well into people having conversations somehow I end up listening to a lot of podcasts where one person at least has like you know a big yard. either. UFC or martial arts and stuff and I feel they have something cool to like a cool perspective on stuff. Yeah, I definitely. I like that kind of stuff about it but Like. It's very hard to get somebody who's disciplined, but also not a just a giant fucking floating douchebag so you. It's rare to get, and so it's the part of the game to write like the Asterix George saint-pierre sure George saint-pierre thinks he was picked up by aliens who knows right I believe in aliens I don't know if they picked up George saint-pierre, but that guy's. Guy's really nice, and he was top of his game right so I can watch George saint-pierre talk because I, the ego thing, it's just like men. I'm so well past the high school drama kind of stuff of like you'll bitch meet me out on the street. It's like I will, but I will drive you over with my car like I'm not even going to get out. I'M NOT GONNA. Honk Like. That's how will show up on the street, but like a lot of that mccheese, most stuff is lost on me now. It's very old. I train B. B. JJ I wouldn't do 'em a lol. BJ's Brazilian Jujitsu Right, yes. Okay. I took it took TV talking about starcraft to get me into watching that and it took Joe Rogan talking about you have see to get me into that. Someone enthusiastically described. The strategy helps a lot very good point. Very good point. Yeah because I found their their excitement infects me. Like. What people say about your walking? The walks right like people wanNA. Play the game after watching those because it's like. They had a noticed all that detail and stuff like that. Yeah, I think that excitement on like that's why I think i. like Bob Ross Painting because Bob was so excited about a fucking tree and. I had trees my backyard. But. That dude I could watch him for fifty hours and I mean that I will have him on repeat on Youtube. And he you know there's very few people in the world that I think are like you hear the gentle soul and I. Don't think having a gentle soave, a warlike so makes one better than the other whatever, but it was just the way he talked, and was so into things that was that was awesome I. Don't know if you guys saw one where that colorblind person. A Roma letter, and there were like I'm colorblind, so I can't paint like you and he's like no problem. We're going to do an entire show. Where repaint in white and gray. And we do a colorblind painting, and I was just like boom. That guy, just one like fucking personal year. Word like that. That's somebody who has talent who spreads it out to people who there was there was. He didn't have to answer that he didn't have to do that. He thought it was a cool idea and he helped somebody. I think that kind of person is amazing. Oh God trimmed bonsai trees. Do you know the number of bonsai trees? That killed Jesus crash. Somebody said you should try that killed so many fucking bonds on trees. But, yeah, if you come into the discord, we do do the US's on Saturday, so we will be doing that will be I'm sure they'll be people sitting in there and chatting I'm going to be pretty busy. Reviewing Games I'll be in there for a little bit, but this week is going to be packed I. Think this next couple of weeks are going to be packed. We got ghost coming out. And then next month we have a couple and the NAACP ON. Nee Con Nason they're big. Ben Studios changed their name to Nick. Connor Nason. They did their event, and they showed where will they showed the new game from the Greek Ball? DEB's agreed fall DEB's silver steel. Steel th rising steel rising, steel rising. Which looks like cybernetic George. Washington's and Shit I've no clue what's even going on. There looked fucking awesome. And of course those aren't coming out right away, but I'm saying that there's a lot of these smaller titles and smaller companies are releasing some great stuff, so it's going to be an exciting time for gaming this this fall I think it's also going to be a little bit melancholy for me, though like I, said once cyber punk comes out. It's going to be weird because strandings out last of us to, and it's going to be weird to be like Oh. Wow, all these are feels like the end of an era or like the start of a new one in some way. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. You just never quite. Honestly Like what to even cover now that ever it's all like now that it's come out. I don't really know even what I'll. Probably do a bunch of indie games because there's a ton of indie games on a cover. Is there anything big, not big sorry. Is there any cool games this year? that it that we haven't covered that, you guys are into like Indie. Games has been Mahmoud. Into Games, but paper Mario is one that I'm looking forward to this coming next week actually next week. Same, they so Suprema Oh no new know shit. We'll ghost I. Guess Delayed, right? That's why. They're probably overlap I. Guess that's that's how life is yeah. I don't think paper Mario and goes to as a major like connection. Yeah. Were in. Your would be surprised if they did it cost. Them obeys any others. Yet you guys remember that fallout. Guys game the one that's. Really caller folk tune looking multiplayer. Fun Game I. Think it's US human fall flat. Okay, is it fog is? Faulted for something like that. Okay, maybe not. Follow boys the band. Maybe I'm getting confused with. Guys live game that civil come out so. Yeah. That's a game that's coming out I. think this year fall-guys loosened correct good man. Sometimes. But anyways that looks fun. That's health dude to play with friends. Yeah so there's some small. Small small titles any any for you guys in chat. Looking, bowlers gate, three or horizon, zero donkey see release for sure. Yeah, Baldur's Gate Three by the way the early access that's not even out. That won't be out until waist length threes in August. Yeah. Oh my God wasteland away. Everybody waistline three the Beta I got to play phenomenal, so keep a keep an eye on that also snow runners does their DLC. Oh, that's coming out soon. And that's like lost and rescue where your job is to go out and rescue people and I think that'd be fun because it's not you needing rescue? If that makes sense like snow runner twenty easy for you to go out there and be like fuck years. This truck now gotta get another truck to pull my truck out. This'll be about you just doing those jobs so. For me smaller games, men wasteland. That's a good title. You know what we're missing. We're missing a game like NC this year. Like what's the term? What would that be a? like A. What would that? Be like. Yeah, the the the the three third to where everything's on a grid over what you call it, but I would like to see something that crab fight, dungeon crawler, yeah, your first person. Dungeon crawler. Go thank you. bloodlines to? I don't know. Is that going to be delayed? So it's coming out this year. Last I heard. I mean I'm all for it. Thanks by the way guys I did see some people join patron I'll thank you when I get a chance. Jump in there. Appreciate it frostbound DLC. Over hype escape more I escape. More hyper scape. While the. Ended true true. I see what you're saying. Okay Gotcha Yeah. Yet dude. That game was a game was definitely enjoyable. Scape was really really well done. Be Nice to see how they support it. Does Baldur's gate three. Come out this year. No, it is, it is early access this year. Your next door's the release between to Evil Genius Yeah definitely. That's definitely my style game to. Star destinies, so that came into my email strangely enough. You mentioned that I saw that this morning. I th I think it was this morning I saw that pop up in my email. I haven't got a chance to look at it. I will say I, made a mistake and installed legends, the not the not endless. Not The space one. RPG ONE IN. Los Legends. I think is what kept the Dungeon crawler? This is the this. Is The civilization style one? That's like DND. I gotta say men. Dude Like that didn't grab me at all. And in the space is the one I like from them, so there's endless space, and then is legends, and then Dungeon of the endless I think. But man in legends, man that Shit did not. I don't know that did not do it for me I. A plate for just a little bit of time, just not my style game. I wish bio mutant would get a release date. With Bio Mute and I think they just said when it's ready, and then no word on on good and evil to know beyond good and evil to has shown multiple trailers looks good looks like it's coming. They showed them flying to different planets and one of the trailers that game it LE hopefully. I'm right on this. It looks like they put their heads down and they're like we're just GONNA. We'll talk about it when we're ready. what I've seen. I'm excited for big time. I don't know if that'll turn out to be anything, but I'm excited for it. I love the idea of traveling to different planets and having big places to explore. It isn't no Mexicans with seven. Holy Shit super correct. When does that come out? Doesn't say it sometime this year supposedly. Nice super excited to check out and. Did, they ever announce like a follow up to Detroit become human like Chicago become human. CHICAGO, become robot. Yeah. You, they haven't no. We. Do you guys think that go ahead? No, sorry go on that. Crazy Tangent I was just going to say. Do you think that? We should give robots rights if we ever get to the Detroit become human level. I froze when you ask me because I was so I was. It was so impactful request, right? Let me. Let me see if I can get myself up and running again. Hopefully didn't freeze guys I did. I love it. We'll be back guys. where it says on the air, but it's all a lie. Air We go. We're coming back. NOPE, and we're going to try one more time. I have no clue what's going on with the Internet. We go back looks like Rebecca Killed Carrick. It's true the stream I don't look at me I'm so pissed in that. I'm. Johnny. Don't talk about robots that way. Yes sure writes. Wait a minute. What rights like what do you mean? Like human rights dude like they're you know if they become conscious? In a significant way. Is like they look like us. They walk like us as the saying goes. Can I. Can I kick my tv if you ever tell me, I can't kick my TV because it's too smart and it knows pain while it starts talking Beca, you than. If video kicking your TV. Hold on now I didn't state my position. Don't put words in my mouth break. This is serious stuff. Don't put words in a serious stuff. How dare you misrepresent my views? I think you're getting onto something which is like it's an arbitrary thing whether or not they look like us, but I think in a primal way if they do look alike us. Where we can tell the difference we would be super tempted to. Extend them some kind of rights yeah. Shut up it. Okay someday she'll be real. I'll just tell you this biologically. We can make robots biologically like we're already figuring out deep spa now that and that is definitely a questionable like then you have to do say just because we created it, but it's flesh. It's like grown then you do, but with robots now man I. Don't care if my TV. You know talks to me perfectly whatever I'll kick that thing through the fucking Wolf I want to. There's no life to it it is it's all responses. That are driven by the other stuff. I'll be dead before happened so I don't give a fuck. See. That's one of this is I. Don't worry about a lot of that stuff. I was writing a book or Doing that I would think about a little bit more, but some of the stuff is so far beyond me and if I get to that point I'm just GonNa. Be Really happy to be there, but that's another thing because at some point if you have a sex robot. And then you give the sex robot. Writes does a sex robot is is your can? Your flashlight closed mouth. No Man that I would hope not, but that is question if the flashlight can close its mouth. That's the question that. That I think you start getting into like sex robot can say no suddenly and humans have a tendency to do that. We as humans have a tendency to at what's and when I say yeah. Yeah! Yeah and we put it on on things that really shouldn't because I do it as a little kid I think I told you guys I was always the guy who like I would have gi Joe and I play in like outside with these characters, and if I forgot one, it'd be three in the morning and a wake up, and it'd be like dukes stuck outside. We're going to go on a mission. Man I forgot him Cobra Commander's in here. But Duke is out there in dirt, and I would literally go out in my Whitey tidies night. Find my gi. Joe Can run back in and put because I felt like he was a thing. Then I grew up. That, was it. Get. It it's a question for smarter people than me. I just don't see why you would ever give them rights just don't. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Prayer until their biological, the biological things weird like then because I saw something where they showed artificial and pregnant. Impregnation with a fucking like little mini thing that looked like a screw, and we wrapped around the the spy wrapped around the tail of the sperm, and injecting the first of all. I was like survival of the fittest DNA. A, if that sperm didn't get there, there's probably a reason why right I. Like I. Like here I'm a sperm that got unfortunately to the egg. Look at your product. You don't want a bunch of running around. You want smart ankle. Einstein's. So I duNNo. Weird question, but I will tell you. This was a bit. The idea of like I saw somebody making the meat in the VAT. Like in the Petri dish and I still don't know. Stay why it's grocer to meet to eat that than like 'cause I love animals. And I never be able to raise a cow, and then kill it like A. Star. What's his name? Chris Pratt does. He talks about that a lot he has. And then they you know that's the life. I couldn't do that but I. also the idea of eaten steak at a disc grosses me out. Yeah, but I think that's a barrier. We have to break eventually because if we can do it in like you're going to have to efficient way, we kind of have. Have you guys had impossible bill? Burger Impossibility Burger, whatever no I have no. Does it now. They're Leist Sim. No, it's not, but it was good. It was good. 'cause I've had veggie burgers which they don't even try to pretend. Like and in season, and I'm okay with that like if I know that that's what I'm getting. I think come close. They'll probably figure it out and it'll be like the I think that's great now replacers reason I think those animal. Then what do you do you just say, let the cows die off slowly on their own, or do you have a mass genocide? Cows I normal to India. No, that's actually not a joke. It's not a joke. If let's say tomorrow, we figured out how to make burgers right one of the big problems with cows. I don't know if you guys know this is Green House effects of. Right or the methane emission over killing rainforest for them rights. So you kill the rainforest form, so we stopped that right? That makes sense cold soup. Yeah, exactly for Lusitan, so you so now you've got millions upon of cows. Do you let him age gracefully or do you go on a fucking homicidal spree? And you just as you know Bonnie? WHO's walking out in the fuck and field somewhere? and. He's just start killing him. and. You Know Yeah Wolves, so then wolves get him now. Wolves are in huge packs and people kill the wolves for no fucking reason. I imagine there would never be like a section where it suddenly go. Okay, no more kilmeade now we're all like the veterans and stuff. That that know nothing, totally phase it out immediately. GOES THAT WAY? People still drive leaded chorus. You just have to the lead additive, but people are still have cars that drive with that run on a leaded style also incidentally live for about twenty years. Yeah, so we would take a long time for them to fuck in. You know yeah. Full! You're not meat anymore. You've got a bad back, but I'm not GONNA help. You were just GonNa. Kill you or do you treat them like a dog? Where you're like okay I'm going to replace your hips. Why does it have to Bonnie? Because that was the first cow name? What's your name or replace your your name in there with county? There's something visceral about. When when the dog is being hurt in a game or a movie to me, I was watching this. anime show Gioja, and there's this fucking brutal like. Thing where someone is kicking a dog and I was like physically ill was in. It's funny because I can watch Gore for like you know like humans being hurt I. Know it's a movies. You know it's fine, and this was even not even the movie was just anime. and. I was like kind of ill.. Watching that you know like a dog being kicked in like a what bothers way bothers me when I hear dog Yelp in a movie because I'm like. Did they get that sample I'm not lying I've thought about little whimpers. Yeah, when like they'll fake kick a dog and be a burden. It'll be like. Wait how they get that sample. And you by the way you can make your dog do that without hurting them. There's trainers who figure out how to make is just one of those things as a kid. We still need cows for milk and cheese, though true, except Othman's people tried to tell you almond milk Israel milk. They're fucking liars and they worked for the Lizard People like soy. Milk, Dude. My Mom and dad were like we're GONNA have milk on fucking cereal and I did not question what it was. And I took a bite of that revolting asks almond milk surreal it was. So you can tell me about the nutritional properties, but don't don't try to sell me on the flavor. Okay, it's not. That's not why you drink. Yeah, exactly exactly and I love almonds, but so gross. Yes just like I don't like any of that. In fact, I think just normal milk is the only like one of my friends had goat milk. I? Don't even like the skin stuff i. just do like full. Full Fat Skim. Milk is SORTA like watery milk. Anyway watered down. We had to drink it because I. I was deathly allergic to real milk as a kid, so skim milk I was fine with. It wasn't lactose. It was something else, but. I can bring a now. I love milk. Love it. Do I'm pretty sure that's why we all of the kids are bigger than they used to be. Because the amount of fats and lipids, they get to drink and the. Kid comes home from lifting weights. fucking chugs half gallon of milk easy. They're to be really fat or ripped. Almond milk from the home in Nipples. Bravo. FUCKING AWESOME! Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Cats have nipples. Can you milk them? What was that that was? That was meet the parents. Oh. My God, that's a fucking. Ten is a hard movie to watch man. Have you guys ever got along or knock along with a significant other parents? Is that ever been a thing for you know never really had that issue. Actually, it's rough. It's rough. Yeah, that's rough. As you do have to like. Do stuff together. Obviously, if here's what's weird. If we got a group, I wouldn't dislike when you guys unless you did something truly detestable, but parents don't want you banging their daughter. Yep, there's something primal about. There's something primal or I would say you know. Let's say. Parents of a son don't want. You The sun being letter, whatever the opposite of that would be an right right it is, it's primal and man. There was. There's always a dynamic. They want the best for your child right. They may think that you know you're not the best for some reason. Or have like impossible standards. Nightmares of me coming over and we'll bear on your daughter. And you would if they heard enough of your. Real! Element that image though downstairs. Did it sounded. Say. You just yeah you. My mom didn't like one of my girlfriends one time and I. Like I don't even remember why she didn't. You know just caddy they just didn't you know there is like is a little bit of a disagreement there? Oh man anyway. Coke Mania Security Wise Vampire. The massacre one was released the same day as half life to. The what? Okay. I I believe. That's a long time ago man. Also. It's like challenge to a video game through your question, but Oh, is he challenging you the Trivia question here? I don't know. Wheel bearing a so of old. He's asking why vampire the masquerade bloodlines was released the same day as half life two. But. That's an impossible question. Why was it? Yeah because we. Both companies thought that was a good to release their games. I mean Sh- happens. Do you guys remember Tuesdays and Thursdays where a big deal retail stores? It was a huge deal. His Tuesdays and Thursdays the reason why Tuesdays and Thursdays are a thing now is because it's a retail carryover, because shipping house of Games would arrive or the night before and you wrap them. There is a axel appropriate to the question though for. My part of the masquerade bloodlines is one of the first two games to use valve's source engine. was half life two goes done before half life two, but valve headed in the contract for source that bloodlines could not release I, so they were both released the same day. You go due to the sauce engine. Sauce the sauce engine. Man Remember. That engine was the shit is source even. Now! Turn source engine, but I don't know if anyone else apart from health uses it yeah, I. Think is just right. I'll. How does it here seventy eight degrees Fahrenheit? Which? I don't know what you have. Is that I think? Has It in AD eight or something? I think is what it is. I think is less than let. Let's I am not familiar with freedom units. So Sad. So sad our thermometers. About twenty four, see. Not, so not so bad. No, no, it's not been a right. What else do we got before? We wrap this thing up? Before we keep talking about me wheelbarrow and your daughter. We went. It all started with like a robot rights yet. We went into wheelbarrow. Your your significant night there, we sadly. discuss. The best conversation. We always have these though like this. Great. That's why it's not I think it's called. Blather cast right now. It's called Gaming podcast. This is just the way we do things. What else are. We got? Oh, there was an announcement for the dark pictures. Little Hope, which is the next part to men the MME. would you reviewed? Yeah. This is for October thirtieth. We were talking about games coming out. Is this something any of you are looking forward to, or are you going to give it another shot, or were you kind of put off? I will give it another shot for sure yeah. I mean it's. It's also confirmed online co up for two people, which is cool. I think the other one was co op right? Yeah, the other one wasn't a local only know had two versions had. To pass the controller like six person, so each person could play one of the two in every three scenes, or it was online. Yeah, so yeah, no, I mean to me it's it's a different thing right there. Releasing Its d like some people be different the ideas different. It's a different world, so I'm fine with that. I just think the first one was rough. Did you guys play it? Medina. I skipped men. Do you save me some money? That time I was like? Yeah, pretty sure not gonNA like it. Okay! Yeah, because I. Think the people who don't like. Who who have more money than me or whatever? Who Don't you know, maybe hinge so much money I think most people I talked to were just like dude. The game is just not that good like it. Just yeah it sure so a time investment, right? It's like you know money is also a big thing of course, but it's like hey, I have these free hours in my day am I really GonNa. SPEND THEIR IF I don't think it's going to be people don't put two and two together and go. It's not only the sixty bucks is also the ten hours or twelve hours fourteen hours twenty hours. Very much for subscribe subscribing dedicated amateur. A rat sounds hot. It for US I think we'll wrap it up here or wrap it up here with vague sexual innuendoes. Thank you very much for subscribing you. Rock I definitely appreciate it. Watch. Johnny Johnny plays live fees doing anything this weekend. You said you were playing what? Monster Hunter World's getting gearing up for the new. Epoch Monster. Latvian. So you have to prepare for it, even what do. Yes is a journey. It's my new nemesis. Okay? is going to be like a week. Until. I can take it down. You don't play monster. Hunter delivered. Yeah, no shit, wicked, critter, thing or the bits everybody else we appreciate it. If you get a chance come to the discord, it would really help if you WANNA know how much I made on the last video. One of my largest videos ever is less than eight hundred dollars for like eighty hours work men. Not paying off to do those videos I. Think what I'm going to start doing is just reaction. Videos Carrick racks, dear daughter that'd be pulled off the. Whole? Do Time Terry Wheelbarrows your daughter. Should never said the word. So evocative. You can't do that shit on. The only fence we do, yeah. Yeah that'd be yeah. I'm GONNA have an only fans. That's what I'm GONNA do. That's what I'm going to do. Having only fans are rights can. 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FPP: Strength Beta Details

Morning Mantra

14:36 min | 1 year ago

FPP: Strength Beta Details

"Hi It's coach K.. Remember how I said. We'd have more mistakes oops. Did it again. Sorry guys over the weekend coach. I recorded an eighteen minute conversation about the strength Beta that is opening on September. The first this plan is so good you guys. It's so hot in fact that the cloud couldn't handle it. The file was corrupted upon upload only five minutes remain so I'm putting them here. If you just love the sound of our voices here's five more minutes if coach Sarah and coach k. then you would have otherwise had today your welcome this idea the strength Beta has been a long time coming. I took a course way back when hoping to get some information to assist training my elite runners at the time about the techniques I acquired would be way more effective in my non elite slash casual runners like you like me so I tested on a few of my one on one clients. The results beat my expectations and I've been eager to use them ever since I've been eager to take these principles the ones used in creating the strength Beta and put them in a group group-training framework for a long time and I've not really seen anything like this out there which is why I'm so excited about it and that's all I'm going to give you until the former marketing is ready and the website base lift is complete here here are the bullet point need to know about the strength Beta number one. It is eight weeks long on the surface. When you download the training plan it might look might not look terribly different than my other training patterns five days of running four days a strength but rest assured it is nothing like any my other plans do build in a little bit more time because there's more strength at the same time? There are no egregiously long long runs the relative time suck is about fifteen percent greater than in maintain number two it cannot cannot be combined with the marathon ramps. You cannot do both the string Beta and a ten week marathon ramp concurrently because. Because taper unlike the marathon rams however you can during the strength Beta keep doing whatever other stuff you're doing like orange theory body pump or soul cycle number three you may complete the Beta before entering the marathon ramp just be warned. You need at least one week off preferably to cutting way back on activity to recover before jumping into the build that comes along with the marathon ramp. I'm structuring everything here to avoid burnout and once you start stacking checking all the things you're turning my unique vision into everything else you've ever seen. Please don't do that just go with my vision. It's a one time cost of eighty dollars and we are tentatively planning planning to open this program four times in twenty twenty. I will most likely be on January the first we're not certain yet though so please now all you need to know is that more is coming there so much we want to do in two thousand twenty. We will let you know what we're doing and win. As plans become finalized we promise as don't forget coach serious still very much employed at Harvard and I'm not even going to have her fulltime until September. If the first to know how far I can pusher Yay coach Sara. Should you choose to participate in the strength Beta. Do not cancel your existing subscription that thirty dollars a month payment is important a pacer overhead. This strength Beta was priced to complement the a subscription so we can keep reducing podcast life streams for the strength putting the plans into training peaks etc.. There's a lot that goes into these programs if you stop and think about it and thirty dollars a month of tried to keep this as cheap on your end as humanly possible and and yet we just need you to keep paying the subscription and this'll be a one time purchase on top of that. If you keep listening do not worry if you're not able to complete it. If life gets in the way we will work with you to put you in the next one. We're a small business and not going to be totally unreasonable unreasonable at the same time. I'm not going to be parading anything because life got in the way what I will do is give you a fifty percent discount on the next program when it opens and put you in there and again. It's a small business. I don't have so many clients that I would not be able to keep track so that is a good way of knowing that you're covered and our costs recovered as a small business either way okay so if this is still priced out of your reach let us know again as a small business. I'm going to do my best to work with you. I've been where you are and this is still priced less than a quarter of what my marathon training costs in New York City in two thousand and ten and I did not have a coach so if you think you're going to do it take this next week to drink all all the drinks in all the pools because you're going to need one solid month dialed in over and maintain before jumping into the strength Beta. Why have it really shouldn't sign up for this in order to get your shit together? You need to get your shit together before giddings before signing up for this and specifically you need to get your shit together by getting serious about the work you already have in maintain and I say this lovingly not accusingly as someone who shit has definitely not been together together you guys I've been living like a college student working all night running off with every idea I have until three in the morning and beyond in sleeping late since I'm still healing from surgery can't really run MAS will work reality is going to bite me here soon and I am not looking forward to it getting up early as one habit that is supported by various other habits and you're going to need at least one solid month to get all of those little habits back laying out the clothes the night before doing extra laundry setting a new alarm eating a little earlier making sure you have two sets of everything everywhere so you'd all show up to work with two jobs bras no regular bra and at the N._C. through shirt so everybody sees your Bright Pink Sports Bra not that I've been there recently okay. It was ten years ago and I'm not ashamed. It was pretty cool. We got to talk. I got sitting in meetings in pretty important. People and talk about my marathon training would not do that otherwise anyway. If you have not yet joined fitness protection you may join now and and then joined the strength Beta on on September the first the only requirement for entry into the string Beta is one full month participation in maintain now if you're currently in rebuild unless you are completing one full month and in lane two and have taken a minute to discuss with me directly I would strongly advise you to wait until the next round of strength. If you're returning from injury. We don't want setbacks. The whole idea of rebuild is to not take on too. Too much too soon and this program is intense is arguably more intense than my steady as fuck marathon ramp which I designed for folks who expect to break four hours in their next marathon so final note on. Have you seen that plan but it's scary final note and apologies. If you hear this twice today the strength Beta is a terrific option. If your target race is still a long ways off and you want the excitement and the buzz that keeps you supported and engaged in a training plan without the pressure pressure of a race performance. You're going to get health strong and you can absolutely race at the end if you feel like it but treat that racist an option though find something that works at the end of the plan that you're excited about that really gets. You excited where you're like yeah. I'm I'm going to do this and then let's see how strong we can get an eight weeks. Please please please don't make up arbitrary time goals for that ray so you can then say the pro didn't work and your workers for nothing because we didn't do enough ten k. specific workouts which arguably you don't need at this level anyway everything. That is the exact mindset. I'm trying to break over here. Please please please if we're going to do things differently. Come in blind and do them with an open mind and try to do something that you've done before with the brand new perspective perspective and we might get those results that have been eluding you for so long. That's it for now. You're about to hear probably repeat it some of it. I'm just not sure exactly what at the at the end of this if you have any other questions throw him in the facebook pages or send them to Info I N. F. FO at coached and loved Dot Com again. That's I n.. F. O. AT COACHED AND LOVED DOT COM and now here's the surviving portion of my original conversation with coach Sarah enjoy the thing I want Oughta say about the strength Beta if you are unable to participate at this time but it sounds kind of interesting you are not be left out. We're going to be opening up several times per year. It will not be an ongoing subscription will be a two month one time purchase opening up four times throughout the course twenty twenty resuming assuming of course if Beta goes well the next one will be opening on January the first we're going to give you lots and lots and lots of heads up about it. If that doesn't work for you there will be another opportunity after that if you sign up for the strength Beta in life gets in the way we don't do refence what. What we will do is assure you you're GONNA be fine? Give you a fifty percent off discount cowards at you can rejoin US whenever and that fifty percent discount code will be valid for the price you paid before so if the price of <unk> rises at any point you will be paying fifty percent of the price. I see you pay before not the current price on the website. If you come back three years now I will still honor that coat I think <hes> I think everyone should be really excited about the strength data in if like me you are running a marathon this fall in their Ford strength data is not good good timing for you. September the first come over in January. That's what I'm going to be doing it in. I cannot wait in the meantime. I will be coaching in the group as you do the strength data and I'll be feeling all it's all now as I watch you do. I'll be super bowl workouts strengths and running workouts workouts because it's a comprehensive program vote strengthen running. I'm going to be coaching cheering for you on the inside. I'm going to be able to do that and there's a really good reason why. I can't do that the trading for marathon but I'll be really looking forward to taking it up in January. Yeah it'll be good and not that we're not exactly sure the timing the next three after that don't worry about it too much just know it will be opening up again at least three possibly four times over the course of twenty twenty. We gotta take one step at a time coach. Sarah can't do all the straight every day. I'll now I cannot do other strength everyday I have. I have the correct amount of strength right now if not possibly sometimes a little bit too much and by P._T.. Is Not worried about me needing more strengths. I'M GONNA listen to him and stick with what I've got one vital note about strength Beta if you do not have a fall race on tap if there's nothing that's interesting you if you find yourself losing a little bit of motivation and you don't really know what do the strategy that could be a very interesting option. It's only eight weeks long. It's very very good. It's fun. It's interesting. You'RE GONNA get a lot out of it. You have the option race at the end of it not a mandate. I've ever care if not it's more energy than that race while we do. This progress series once progressive series is over. All you need to do is not stop if you are having a little SOMO watching all your friends. Let's get ready to go into racing season when you know you're not ready in. You're not really they're the running that you're gonNA see understrength. Beta is more than what you would be seeing in maintain at the moment so if you need a little bit of motivation if you need illustration. This got your attention because you are not. outraced Miss Fall then that is a very good reason to come join us in his strength Beta just now. It's a lot of work in it's very we're up in anti from Everett intensity standpoint a good amount from maintain but it's only very weeks and it's GonNa make you so strong and you're going to have so so much fun doing it. There is a really good crowd. I have stayed as a really good crowd of super cooled people that have expressed interest so it's GonNa be a fun group on September first but it has also interested in this is an idea that I've been toying websit mentioned him on the Board of the Blue Bench is a nonprofit based in Denver. I am we work trying to reduce or prevent sexual assault through advocacy and education and I am trying to put together a holiday fundraising drive and I'm thinking of doing that time that somehow with a strength challenge in a couple of sponsors that are willing going to donate <unk> gifts and things it'd be added to it as well so thinking about this sounds interesting to you. If you just pay some sort of a holiday drive you let us know and finally there any holiday conversations that you are not looking forward to. We'll be incorporating at those. You're not looking forward to giving you a hint. That would be tying it as well so let us know email info location love dot com. If there is all conversation that you know is going to be coming and you really don't WanNa have it emailed me. Let me know and we're going to be working CNET into this holiday Dr one way or another so much sat down the pike. We love you tell you what I what I am Supine with a with a blackberry never let that from my cold dead hand Joel Cold Dead Hands. I get a lot done you do. Your brain is operate as am. I too much my husband's. She grabbed because I got I had no idea again at three in morning and I reached over picked up my phone and that was around the same time that Julie had just finished at he's. He's like you're okay. I'm like she's finished waiting for them. I just sat there by got worse wall man to go back to like out of this mode sleeping through the night again but it's great to give birth to something they can't yell at me like the baby violates in your candidate pass our mouths say now and then put it back in Nice. 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Who Is On the Other Side?

The Curious Investor

22:33 min | 1 year ago

Who Is On the Other Side?

"This is a Qr the curious investor. I show that breaks down. Some of the most important ideas and finance is to help us make better investment decisions. I'm Danville ally and I'm in most competitive activities. You need skill the better you are. The more you'll win right. Well kind of in a lot of cases like sports gambling or investing. There are a lot of other factors at play things like noise uncertainty and luck and that can be frustrating at times because you don't know if you're going to be a victim or beneficiary of luck it can also make it difficult to determine whether somebody has skill for instance say some stocks. I own did better than some stocks escape bones. Did I do better because I'm more skilled or was it just because I got lucky for the record. It's obviously because you got lucky well today. Okay we talked to people in different fields who spend a lot of time trying to answer this question. Anti Duke lapsed academic former professional poker player in a recent author of the Book Thinking Beth. We're also joined by curious investor regular. I'm Toby Moskowitz principally. QR also professor at Yale The L. University School of Management. So let's start by looking at how we humans assess us whether something was a good or bad decision. Any Duke has a simple thought experiment to show how we do this. Almost everyday Gabe is driving along Dan. This is all you know he's driving along and I'm GonNa tell you he was following the rules of the road. His car was well maintained. He was not speeding and he proceeded to green light and he got an accident with. Was it a bad decision. Come on Dan my senator. I WANNA say no because he was doing everything he should have been doing right so this is a case where you allow the uncertainty uncertainty to be the main driver of the outcome because this is a decision that is incredibly well replicated. Well agreed upon. We have a lot of consensus around it. This is very status quo so here. We have a bad outcome but gave was doing everything right. The accident probably wasn't his fault. Just bad luck banality sampling poke and not against anti who would take all my money. Obviously I'm in a game with a few friends even the hand that I have in the pot I calculate the odds of winning and I go all in with a pair of tennis. It's a somewhat atypical move but I don't have much money with if you run the odds. It's actually my best bet to get back in the game. The dealer flips his cards and get blown out in this case people might not have all the information gave has but they'd see the bad result and probably think gave made a bad decision and that's the the difference between when we have clarity into the quality of the decision and when we don't and we don't like that uncertainty we don't like not knowing. We don't like not understanding why something happened so in that we're gonNA find it somewhere. We're either. GonNa find it because the decision is well understood or if we can't find it there we're gonNA find ended by looking at the outcome when it came to crash in a car. Luck got the blame but when it came to poker Gabe did even though he made the right move move in both cases the outcomes equally poor but in one case in the case where the decision is not well understood. This was your fault. I'm putting this completely up to scale so you made a bad decision because I don't understand it. Any says the reason we're more critical of game. The second case is because something she calls resulting. Basically what it means is deciding that you know something about the decision because you happen to know how it turned out and I think that if you tell people hey what do you think. Is that a good idea. if you know how something turned out that tells you something about the decision. I think most people would say that's totally reasonable but when there's a lot of noise in the world which not come mainly from luck but also from hidden information what happens is that the quality of an outcome is actually very poorly correlated to the quality of the decision that that might precede it. Why do our minds work that way. Anything skepticism and downplaying of luck goes way aback. Our ancestors probably didn't like noise. They couldn't explain statistical or otherwise so if you think about it you know you're Homo Homo Erectus on the Savannah and you hear rustling in the leaves. It's really good for you to automatically think that's a lion runaway and if you're a little bit more sceptical if you take AAC that type of all this is uncertain. I don't know let me figure out you're dead so people who maybe have more of a tendency to think that way a are dead they didn't have they didn't have any project so we know that that kind of thinking about these things in a more certain relationship we really like and then the other piece of the puzzle. Is that what goes along with that. Because we really don't like uncertainty is when we feel like we can't see through to the quality of the decision or why something happened because it's so paik what we do is we take the shortcut that provides that certainty for us well. There is a thing that I can see. I can tau how very clearly what the quality of the outcome was and that kind of quick judgment might have been useful on the Savannah. It could be a big problem today. Many of life's important and difficult decisions come with a lot of variation in the results. You make a decision. There's a whole bunch of different ways that it can turn out and once you've bank thank the decision. You don't really have any control over the way it goes and you know there's some dispersion of results and okay so people don't really like that but if you're going to be a good decision maker it's all about your ability to forecast those kinds of things one one of the biggest pitfalls and decision making is being overconfident and he's come up with a handy way to avoid falling into that trap so if you state something something with great certainty like some belief that you have about. Oh I know I'm going to like this movie that we're GONNA go see. It looks amazing. I know I'm GonNa like it and I say Satyo we'll do. Do you WanNa bet on that. What happens to immediately you think about it. You're like well now. Let me think about that. You think about it and he's latest book. Thinking in bets is all about this idea. One example is a research circ. Study called the reproducibility project. The reproducibility project goes back to twenty eleven and tries to address the growing problem in research whether an experiment experiment if done again produces the same result the project originally took a hundred published psychology studies and as researchers to reproduce them and for a lot of these studies results just couldn't be reproduced enemies book mentions related experiment done by Andrea Behavioral The economist. She took forty four studies and asked researchers a slightly different question. How well can you predict ahead of time. Whether a study study will be successfully reproduced or not one group of researchers was asked the simple question will the results of the paper be reproduced. They were right about fifty eight percent of the time. The other group was asked to place bets on whether these studies were able to be reproduced or not here ear. The success rate jumped up to seventy one percent and why because now they're they're explicitly thinking. I'm making a bat and I've got capital at risk. Could it kind of forces you to start thinking about it in a less biased way. and I and I really think that it's because it's just reminding of what a decision really is and what it does it makes the uncertainty bubble to the surface and look fifty eight to seventy one percent is an improvement but it's not earth shattering that said if you could improve your results from a fifty eight to seventy one percent success rate just by asking WANNA bet. Wouldn't you WANNA do that. Yeah let's turn to investing money is always on the line and in a sense. You're always making some kind of a bet. You'd think that people would be much better at decision making here. Unfortunately not firstly. There's a lot of noise in investing. It's not always easy to tell if something was a good or bad decision based just on the result so resulting might be especially misleading and financial national markets secondly. Even though there's always money on the line many investors make consistent Babe Bureau mistakes and those behavioral mistakes. The stakes are a big reason factor. Investing tends to work. We've talked a lot about factors on this show but here's Toby Moskowitz a professor of finance at Yale and a principal. Qr Are with a reminder just a set of characteristics that describe returns and sometimes risk as well you can think of it. They give it all it. It was like moneyball applied to finance which is we don't fall in love with an individual stock or the name of player but the characteristics that stock brings so and some of the common ones things like value something cheap. That's a characteristic something that has momentum. That's done well recently but not every stock is cheaper than average. Ridge and not every stock has better momentum than average in other words. We can't all be value and momentum investors. You can think of financial markets in some sense is a zero-some game because the market which contains the investment of everything. That's the only thing we can all hold at the same time right so if I like cheap stocks it has to be because someone else's willing to sell me those cheap stocks. They have therefore like expensive stocks toby and some of his colleagues are writing a paper on this. It's called who is on the other side as in any competitive activity. Wouldn't it be nice to know about your competition before we get into it. We we should note that. This is a particularly fun episode for us. Normally we talk about research. That's been completed and published who is on the other side is actually work in progress. Congress so this is some hot off the press stuff before they even got started. The authors had to figure out a couple of things. The first step is just knowing that there is someone on the other side. They're you're always going to be someone on the other side. That's the first thing and there's you know sort of a deeper question. which is who is that the problem is we don't have great data in the United States to know Who's on what side of the portfolio I mean if we did this in Scandinavia you could know every trade by every individual plus their tax return their I q score score and everything you'd want to know and that's not a joke? That's actually fact everything. I just said that. Data's been used. IQ 'cause they have to serve military and they take an Iq test toby and his co authors aren't looking to investigate every security that gets traded instead what they're interested in is factors and their question in is if all the evidence out there suggests being long a certain factor is good for returns then who would be short that factor like a value investing is is a good thing who's betting against value while factors work in many asset classes this. QR paper focuses on US equities were data was more readily available by using data thirteen F reports. The authors could see which kinds of investors were long or short different factors. There's basically you can figure out who is on the other side based on where the money is and with this data toby. You can try to answer a bunch of important questions. One is just knowing who is on the other side most the time one is also knowing who is becoming on the other side or who's moving around on the other side right and so there's a number of interesting research questions here which is is there a natural hold of the other side. Does it change. Does it switch after say the two thousand eight crisis you know what factors determine when when that might change and then just kind of even bigger question which would be the you know the billion dollar question. Could you predict that answers now by the way we've we're. We're looking at it. We've tried. You've ruined the episode exactly sorry to disappoint but there's a lot of interesting stuff that toby and his co authors were able to find going in toby had some guesses for what they'd find. There was some early work using some of these detailed retail databases that definitely found that retail investors prefer growth the lottery type stocks so I sort of expected that with the Growth Value Type Paradigm in value we always think of is kind of more of a long term investor. The study looked at more than just retail investors among others it also covered hedge funds and pension funds and in addition to the value factor the paper looks at momentum size and low Beta. The Low Beta factor goes long low Beta Securities and short high Beta security so for an equity investor. You'd like low risk stocks and disliked high risk stocks and you might think well. I don't like risks so why why would I ever buy High Beta anything. The answer is returns. If you have a high return target you're trying to head the low risk stuff might not be enough to get get you there in theory. Though there are two ways to get higher returns you can invest in Riskier High Beta stocks or you can use some leverage on the lower risk stocks but what if a large group of investors can't lever it could be because the reverse using leverage or maybe by statute are not allowed out to have leverage in their portfolios if those investors are seeking high returns then they have to go for higher. Beta stocks and with that can do is leave. Leave the more neglected low. Beta stocks parking prices. You would expect like well capitalized. Insurance companies and hedge funds probably are going to be on the low. Beta side and retail investors mutual funds that are more constrained are going to be in the High Beta side. You might think since hedge funds routinely used some leverage that they would naturally naturally be the ones taking advantage of the low Beta factor but that's not what the data shows some hedge funds might be but as a group there on on the other side when it comes to momentum larger investors tend to belonged at premium while smaller investors tend to be on the other side of that and that seems intuitive if you think momentum is in part due the behavioral biopsies maybe smaller non-professional investors might be more likely to fall prey to those biopsies but there are some places where who's on the other side changes through time like the value factor as a group pension funds seem to be on the long side and bank trusts on the short side but for lots of other types of investors it wasn't as consistent and for a researcher that might not be very satisfying from a theoretical perspective. Jeff again. My academic roots coming back here Which is you know? I think I would feel better if there was someone chronically on the other side I would feel like I understood understood the factor a bit better. I understand the premium that let's say we're earning by being long that factor and what the other side is paying for. I think that's helpful in in the sense that I can also model the other side and modify how we might trade that by saying well Gee. They're going to care about it more. At this time versus Tim take leverage constraints right eight will in leverage gets more expensive. It's going to be more constraining when liquidity dries up in the borrowing market. It's going to get more expensive. Those are times when I'd expect to see a bigger premium more smaller premium. I feel like I could predict things a bit better in that instance so far. We've been talking about who is on the other side. Another big question is why are they on the other side if the smart money is long factor. Why would somebody resorted yes if I were to say. The reason they're short is because they're stupid and don't know this right. I don't love that explanation. There are by the way that's a serious explanation that some academics give give which is people don't know about momentum value and they're just being dumping on the other side. I don't believe that's the case people have been short those factors for more than a century in all kinds of markets and asset classes S.'s and in all kinds of environments. I think they know they're short and they don't mind being short. They want to be take the leverage aversion right. If you're a big pension from the Kent US leverage you don't mind being long the high risk socks for short the lowest stocks wherever that is being on the other side of those because you can't be it's an impossibility think of it almost like a liquidity premium right. You earn a premium for owning something that's illiquid. You're on the other side of that transaction. You're not upset. That's what you're paying for. You're paying for liquidity witty and you're happy to pay for it because you need it if you think of factors in those terms and I do then it's natural that these things will be there for a long time because there there is a natural holder of the other side you can think of being long factor as bearing some kind of a risk that another investor wants to avoid for example the low Beta factor if we lever and hold low Beta stocks. We're taking on risk leverage. That's something another investor might not want to do. You and they're gonNA pay us for that so I often think of. WHO's on the other side is almost like an insurance contract. That's what we mean by risk-sharing right now. Everybody wants to bear fire insurance on in their home so you sell it off to an insurance company but the insurance companies bearing that risk. They're just doing it in a way that's cheaper than it would be for me. They're diversified. They have more liquid assets. That's all that kind of stuff. I think financial markets work much the same way so you might expect that different factors would have different types of investors on the other side you would. I think that there will be firms like us who were kind of long lots of factors. Let's say we're long value. Were long momentum. Were long quality or low. Beta data were long other sorts of factors and the people that are on the other side of that. I wouldn't expect that to always be the same person going going back to the insurance example a single insurance company might underwrite fire insurance earthquake insurance flood insurance but you wouldn't expect the the same person to be on the other side of three of those so. I guess a one way of saying this is you'd expect on one side people that are along the factors to be diversified versus across those factors but on the short side. It's likely going to be different people who are on the other side as Anne well. She made a career thinking about who's on the other sights on every poker hand. She's trying to evaluate the odds that she's on the right side by asking herself. Do you WanNa bet you start to do more. Vetting of of your own beliefs you start to be thinking about you. Know what information don't I have. How much do I need to seek out how much luck is actually going to be an influence in the way that this thing's turns out and one of the the things that particularly asks you to do is what does the person who's betting me know that. I don't know I think that's a wrap to me. Today's episode is about about trying to get a leg up in a noisy environment for any toby. It's not enough to have a good strategy. You also want to know something about the people you're up against and that's not easy but it is worth the effort for interest listeners will post a draft of Toby's paper once it's ready for circulation for those listeners who want to know who's on the other side of curious at accuweather dot com send us an email to find out and that does it for season two of the curious investor so from us and the whole crew behind the show. Thanks for listening. I'm Dan Villa and I'm gave for Golly. You stay curious my friends you mentioned the scandals as having very grainy that were calling thing just made that kind of offensive go over this course so as an example. I mean it would be very unfriendly. I really don't recommend anybody actually do this but if you said to that couple who had just gotten married. Did you know what are the chances divorced. I know it's horrible and they said zero percent and you said do you WanNa. Beth they'd be like Oh wait. What's the base rate base and that question. I might increase the probability. I'M GONNA get punched in the face but you understand like we can ask that about decisions. That aren't quite so personal. 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Solving The Sleep & Alzheimer's Puzzle

Short Wave

08:18 min | 1 year ago

Solving The Sleep & Alzheimer's Puzzle

"You're listening to shortwave from NPR. Mattie Safai here with NPR science correspondent. John Hamilton. Hi John. Hi So so you are in house brain person. I do have a brain and on a good day even works okay. So you're here to talk to us about this puzzle that researchers have been trying to figure out what about the connection between sleep and Alzheimer's disease exactly so decades ago. Scientists noticed that people with Alzheimer's often have sleep problems. There wake more at night. They are often often drowsy during the day and the big question has been. Does it work the other way so do problems with sleep. Set the stage for Alzheimer's right scientists. He's been trying to figure out how this could happen for most of a decade now and just recently. They managed to add another piece to the puzzle but to understand what they found. We need to dive into into the mysteries of sleep. And how it affects the health of our brain so today on the show. The connection between Alzheimer's and sleep can not getting enough sleep. Make the brain rain more vulnerable to this degenerative disease and how sleep turns on this sort of dishwasher in the brain Okay John Scientists have been looking at this connection between sleep and Alzheimer's for a while and a lot of these studies started in mice right so several several years ago I stopped by this lab where they're doing research on mouse brains and I met up with a scientist named Jeffrey I live is a brain scientist the University of Washington now but then he was studying mouse brains at Oregon Health and Science University warning. Sign here because there's a very powerful laser in here that can actually Actually blinds you. If you if you look into it. John does not always make you want to look at it a little like out of the side of your eye. Yeah it's like the solar eclipse. Just can't help help yourself. I'm glad you didn't though anyway. The laser we're talking about made it possible for Jeff in his colleagues to study the brains of living mice using this state of the art microscope. So there's Black curtain surround this microscope because our microscope is very very sensitive. And it's and it's almost literally counting. Every single photon. That comes up out of the mouse's brain. Wow so what are they using this fancy microscope to look at exactly will understand that you kind of need to understand what happens in the brains of mice when they go to sleep all right mouse brain science. Here we go right wind Miceli or When people sleep when you sleep the brain cells shrink so it's easier for this fluid to flow through the entire brain? So what happens is during sleep. The flu that's normally on the outside of the brain which is called cerebral spinal fluid. It's a clean clear fluid. It actually begins to recirculated back. Into and through the brain along the outsides of blood vessels so it uses the blood vessels wrestles as sort of a scaffold allowing the that. CSF to exchange with the fluid between the brain cells and that exchange between the CSF and brain fluid washes out all these toxins that build up during waking hours. I've heard some scientists compare it to like how a dishwasher works so getting rid of the dirty stuff. That's accumulated on the plates the Bulls and the silverware. It's not a bad comparison because that fluid can get going pretty fast and by the way the team that discovered it named it something they call it the lymphatic addict system sure love it okay John. What kind of toxins are we actually talking about okay? So brain cells all cells produce waste that they need to get rid of stuff like carbon dioxide ammonia and the cells kind of excrete this stuff and it would build up in the spaces between cells if there weren't some kind of system that took it away so the scientists discovered the system. Actually think these wastes are the reason that we can't think straight because we didn't get enough sleep that explains my brain since the launch of this podcast John O.. Oh End Animals and people eventually die without sleep good to know so at this point. You may be a highly functional Zombie but wait. There's more by not sleeping. You also may be raising your risk for Alzheimer's and the reason for that is that one of the waste. Products builds up in the brain is something called Beta amyloid Beta amyloid. Yeah you've probably probably heard about the plaques and tangles that are associated with Alzheimer's Disease Will Beta amyloid is the plaque. It forms these sticky clumps in the brains of people who either have Alzheimer's timers or are likely to develop it and the idea. Is that Beta. AMYLOID is part of a process that ultimately kills brain cells so it was kind of alarming back in two thousand nine. When scientists started finding evidence that a lack of sleep might actually be speeding up the development of these Beta amyloid plaques so basically scientists found evidence evidence of a strong connection between sleep like a lack of? It can make your brain more vulnerable to Alzheimer's right at least in mice which really don't get Alzheimer's without some some genetic tinkering so we have to find a way to see the same sort of function but in a way that is going to is going to be reasonably none of and safe for humans so scientists figured out how to test for it and humans and most recently scientists figured out a way to study it in real time my name is Laurie Lewis. I'm an assistant professor of Biomedical Engineering at Boston. University and Laura and a team of researchers found a way to watch the glymph addict system at work was in about about a dozen sleeping people. The whole thing was written up in the journal Science and what they did was how people fall asleep inside an MRI scanner so in this cramped for Moise to not an easy place in that and then while these people were asleep they used all this cutting edge technology to monitor things like brainwaves and blood flow and guess sweat. Mattie Fae saw the same thing that happened in mice that lack of sleep can make people more vulnerable to Alzheimer's exactly and they also use this really clever technique to to watch the flow of this liquid that surrounds the brain and the spinal cord and they found something that they hadn't really known before. What did they find out John? I'm going to let Laura describe it and that's when we discovered that during sleep there. Are these really large slow. Waves occur maybe once every twenty seconds of washing into the brain so the fluid isn't just flowing going steadily it's kind of oscillating like a washing machine and these researchers were watching this happen in a human brain and then they saw something else this other discovery before each way the fluid we would actually see a wave of electrical activity in the neurons. This electrical always happens. I and the way of always seems to a follow seconds later so were the electrical waves triggering. The washing cycle that flushed out. These toxins would that is the current hypothesis. Those electrical waves are called slow slow waves and they show up when a person enters a state known as deep sleep so you know everybody talks about rem sleep rapid by movement. This is a different state. And it's one one where a lot of brain system seem to be shut down and people are a lot less likely to dream so the deep sleep thing is key here less. Somebody gets the fewer slow waves is an fewer this low waves the fewer toxins flush out of the brain. That's what it looks like. And of course one of those toxins is Beta amyloid that plaque. We were talking about that's linked to Alzheimer's timers and it looks like there's this kind of vicious cycle. You don't get enough sleep so more Beta amyloid buildup in your brain and when you build up Beta amyloid it disrupts the sleep. Okay so should an occasionally sleep-deprived podcast hosts or other people be worried about Alzheimer's if they're not getting enough sleep is not quite that simple. There are a lot of things not just leap. That almost certainly contribute to the likelihood that somebody might get Alzheimer's you have genetic factors or something called Aibo Louis Four and three and two which determine risk there's also Conditions like diabetes. Blood sugar in the brain is a factor and then of course their cell metabolism the how of functional all the cells are in your brain. All those things are factors so it's not just sleep alone. We know that getting sleep and getting the right kind of sleep is important for brain health for all sorts. It's of reasons and this is really just one more all right John Hamilton. Good sleeping to you sir. Thanks for coming by. You're welcome. Today's episode was produced by Breath Hanson and edited by Veit Lay. I'm Maddie Safai. Thanks for listening to shortwave from N._P._R..

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Apple sees iPhone revenue decrease 26% in Q3 - DTH

Daily Tech Headlines

07:23 min | Last month

Apple sees iPhone revenue decrease 26% in Q3 - DTH

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Apple. Announced it earned seventy three cents per share on revenue of sixty four point seven billion dollars beating analysts expectations iphone revenue dropped twenty, six percent of the year to twenty six point four, billion dollars. Mac sales were up twenty nine percent ipad sales up forty five percent wearables were up twenty point eight percent and services were up sixteen percent of the year. The company also announced its apple one subscription bundles are available as of October thirtieth. In Q. Three Amazon earned twelve dollars and thirty seven cents per share on revenue of Ninety six point one billion dollars both substantially beating analysts expectations aws revenue was up twenty nine percent subscription revenue up thirty three percent and it's advertising dominated other category was up fifty one percent of the year. Alphabet reported it earned sixteen dollars and forty cents per share in q three on revenue of forty, six point seventeen, billion dollars well, above analysts expectations overall ad revenue was up nine point seven percent on the year with Youtube, specifically up thirty two percent other revenue was up thirty five percent of the year with other bets revenue up fifteen percent while losses in division grew eleven percent to top one billion dollars in the quarter starting in Q. Four been announced it will break out of income for Google. Cloud business. facebook reported it earned two dollars and seventy one cents per share on revenue of twenty, one, point, four, seven, billion dollars, and you'll never guess it they beat analysts expectations the company said it had one hundred, ninety, six, million daily active users in Canada and the US in the quarter down two million on the quarter which facebook said was inflated Dacoven Nineteen lockdowns overall monthly active users across all of facebook's APPs were two point, two percent to three point two, one, billion users. FACEBOOK's other revenue which includes oculus and portal devices was down seven percent in the year two, hundred and forty, nine, million dollars. And twitter didn't want to be left out and reported it beat analyst expectations in Q. Three with earnings of nineteen cents per share on revenue of nine, hundred and thirty six million dollars monetize daily active users increased twenty nine percent of the year to one hundred and eighty, seven million. But did miss analysts predictions of one, hundred, ninety, five, million ad revenue increase fifteen percent of the year with ad engagement up twenty, seven percent. In non earnings under armor announced, it will sell my fitness pal to the investment firm Francisco partners for three hundred, forty, five, million dollars as well as shutting down its Endo Mondo fitness platform under armor acquired both companies in two thousand fifteen, the company will continue to own and operate the map, my fitness platform, which includes my run an Matt my ride. Nikkei, reports that according to sources Sony is in final negotiations to buy the enemy streaming service crunchy rel currently owned by at and T. The deal is reportedly valued at over one hundred, billion yen about nine hundred, fifty, seven, million US dollars crunchy role currently has seventy million users and three million paying subscribers with over one thousand titles on the service. 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If you buy a five equip Motorola Razor on Amazon Amazon workers will open the box unfolded before shipping it to you in the product listing. Amazon says in order to better protect the display we have folded your razor safer but may not look as elegant as we hoped. We apologize if you see any fingerprints onto the device, but we assure you your razor brand new. The Financial Times reports that the US can sell smartphone chip components to while away as long as they are not used for its five G. business while he has been under the US trade band since last year with the most recent restrictions banning while away from sourcing any hardware made with US technologies. NETFLIX's announced a price increase for new and existing subscribers on its standard and premium plants. Standard plans increased one dollar a month to fourteen dollars with premium plants up two dollars to eighteen dollars. A month Netflix's basic plan remains nine dollars a month. 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Lydia Denworth

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

1:47:29 hr | 9 months ago

Lydia Denworth

"World Com welcome. Welcome to armchair expert experts on expert. I'm Monica Kaufman. And I'm joined by then rivers. I think someone sent me something like would you like contact interview dam was like. Oh my goodness yes. I would love to introduce Dan. Rather as Dan Rather. What about Monica on? Do you think she existed. Let's scour the. She has some backwater rural. Tennessee is an urologist. Can't wait to meet her today. We have a really really appropriate guest because look hopefully most of us are self quarantined. You're not and you have to work first of all. Thank you so much to the people that are working and risking their health working at grocery stores delivering food all the different services that we need man and my grateful for all you guys to the doctors. Everyone medical community putting themselves at risk to help us. Thank you all so appreciated and Madonna say about that Monica. Yeah and also. It's part of our responsibility if you're not one of those people to help those people al by staying home. Yeah just what we're doing so this episode is really important. We have with us. Lidia Den Worth Science Journalist and author. She's a contributing editor for scientific American and writes for psychology today. Her work has also appeared in the Atlantic Newsweek. The New York Times The Wall Street Journal and time and she has written a very very wonderful book about friendship in the value of it the biology the science the science behind it in how crucial it is to us to thrive on this planet. It's just a wonderful message. I think to be hearing at this time. And we talked about the fact check but again it can be very isolating right now so you know what call people maybe instead of text. Here's someone's voice face time with them here yours. Let them see your face zoom. Do all these things. They're very helpful. I'll suggest should be noted that we also know that people want as much normal see as they can get right now. Things are feeling topsy. Turvy so you know. We didn't episode on Monday. Focusing on what's going on but we're GONNA get back to normal. We're going to start having a regularly scheduled shows that aren't about what's going on and hopefully it will provide some and I will often make jokes about cove nineteen because that's my nature and it doesn't mean I am at all downplaying the seriousness of it. We gotTA laugh we. I think everyone should be taking every precaution. I feel horrendous for anyone whose family members are suffering from it and also I will continue to make lots of jokes about it so without further ado. Please enjoy lydia den worth. We are supported by Miandi back. And you'RE GONNA be in trouble now. I was just staying at your home. Yes and you have a dirty clothes in your room and I noticed it's just Stockholm young Nelson. 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Dax that's me UNDIES DOT com slash. Dax He's okay. So Lydia you did not originally pursue science in any capacity and this is ironic of course because various steam now scientific journalists I am a contributing editor at scientific American and I did write quite a lot for scientific American mind which has been folded into the mothership of scientific American but my work appears in the Atlantic New York Times. Newsweek time okay. Great has appeared but but again not a history in science. I majored in history and I was that person who took the minimum amount of science required through high school and college and thought that you know this would be the last thing I would end up doing Shar Shar was it. The math component. Do you think probably partly now. Of course I recognize that perhaps. I'm of that generation where I had the sense. I wasn't good at math as a girl but now will this is one of the great things about writing about science and not necessarily doing sciences. That you don't actually have to be able to do the math shirts but you have to have a conceptual aptitude for all these concepts and understand. Do you do. And you also have to have an ability to or a willingness to admit ignorance on a daily basis and talking to scientists. You have to be able to say keep explaining it to me or I didn't get that and some them are amazing about that and some of them are very sort of arrogant and have a little patience for that. Sure guess who gets covered more You know I love the people who are really game for talking about it and then I do say I'm GonNa ask you really basic questions and sometimes sometimes I'm just checking my own understanding but the thing is that so back when I started on this maybe about fifteen years ago so sort of halfway through my journalism career. I started filling my shelves with like you know the complete idiots guide to genetics or whatever it was I have a very nice reference section on on science and I refer to it on a regular basis and then I talked to scientists themselves to. Yeah okay so back in Philadelphia from what mom and dad do they. Were both lawyers. Were you at any point going to pursue law? No I was never my parents. They wanted us to be engaged in the world in a in a meaningful way. And I do think that they probably thought that law was one way to do that. But no I think maybe because I just never showed any interest whatsoever. Cultural Layer which was no teachers. Were guiding women toward stem at all. It was just pretty much assume that wasn't there lane. They weren't encouraged. They were probably dissuaded. Some of that. It's also true that I really loved history and English and languages. I took French for years and I if I just today coming here at the gas station I was able to help. A woman who tourists to wasn't able to communicate with the guy at the gas station in my French is rough now. Because it's been years but at one point I lived there briefly and so I was thinking why I can only hope you return the favor and acted very condescending and annoyed. She was Oh so great. It was lovely siblings. I have a twin brother. Has Anyone ever asked you? And you said that identical all the you know. They need the complete idiots guide to genetics. That's not possible so anyway twin brother twin rather and I've known several sets of twins but they were always the same gender. So how does being twin boy and girl play out? Same closeness and all that probably not I mean I think it's more like just being siblings. The only thing is that there's there's less hierarchy Because you came into the world pretty much at the same time in his one of you left handed in one of you right now. We're both right. And that's the thing there's really high rates of because generally twins face each other when they play and so whatever one is dominant will cause the other one to be left. Hand dominant interesting. I haven't heard that that is interesting. She'll she'll fact check. I'm saying that I learned that twenty five years ago. There's GonNa be another topic we're GONNA go over that. I learned twenty five years ago and I'm sure to put my foot in my mouth but so you went to Princeton. Monica were unified. You always aiming at Princeton. No but I was aiming at a big school writer strong school for sure that was the milieu. I grew up in. I went to a private high school outside so I grew up in center city Philadelphia but I went to high school outside where you know that was very much. The goal was to go to a really good school. It was called Shipley and still there stole good school. But I was a little bit of fish out of water because I was coming from center city Philadelphia and there were a handful of us. Who did that but mostly it was kids from the suburbs but Princeton. I really just honestly when I was doing my college tours which I've now been in the midst of doing with my own kids so it is a funny thing when you're revisiting that sort of phase of life but it's just so beautiful. The the school is gorgeous and I remember that. I visited it on a gorgeous October day when the leaves were changing and all the Gothic are. It looked like college was supposed to look from a movie. And when you're young you start attending one of these goals. You have some appreciation for but I don't think it's still you're older like we're all you can go back to UCLA. And I'm like I got to spend every day in this place. It's just so beautiful and so yeah laid out for just learn. I don't know there's something magical about I really do think that's true and I do feel that there was a lot that was really special and wonderful about it and plenty of things that were more complicated but I definitely got a good education and when you first got out you were doing a different type of journalism so my first very first job was at MS magazine and then they suspended publication so then I went to psychology today and then they ran on a money and so then I went to Newsweek. And so that was all in the space of. I can't remember two or three years and I kept thinking. Gosh is me off magazines everywhere. I go but I ended up at Newsweek which was a great place to be and I really enjoyed so when I was there. I was reporting and fact checking. I was affect early on which I think is a critical skill but not all journalists today because there's far fewer fact checkers in the world. So I love that you all have the fact check at the end of your show but I I I was sort of in the what was then called the back of the book and so health education social issues stuff. You know And Science was part of that then and I did work on it a little bit and actually I had to fact check a story about the discovery of a Lemur in Madagascar a particular. I mean lemurs only live in Madagascar but this one kind of Lemur that they had thought was extinct and then somebody discovered or refound guess and I had to call this German scientist who had who had found the Lemur and he had this very heavy German accent and writer the science writer. Is Sharon Begley at the time? And she's one of the all-time Great Science Writers and she had written this lovely lied about how hard it had been. Find the lemur. You know they'd had to cross. I can't remember at all now. But let's say they had to cross three rivers and climb to mountains in somebody broken ankle and things then and so my job is the fact checker was was Torri mountains or mountains or was it a left ankle or a right ankle whatever it was and and there was this long pause. And then he says Lydia Lydia it is that is important and I it was it is one of the fundamental problems like some scientists. They really just want you to talk about the work at the right. The fact checker because I remember like I did Interview recently in the May call back at some point and said what shirt were you wearing under your sweater. Yes and I'm like I don't fuck no idea. I doubt on the day right and I just wondered in that moment. I'm like well I don't know so I'm like are they. Just gonNA ditch that part. Is that what they would do when you come up against that like was it three mountains or to? I? I don't know what what what do you do ya. The fact Checker will certainly make the case that we can't include whatever the detail is that we can't verify. Sometimes the writer wins out or or they have some other argument for why they know it so and But do they see you as adversary or helpful? Some do and some don't it's. It's a very interesting you know. Sometimes they think you're just as a fact checker trying to take all the fun out of sharing right I think Monica's trying to publicly assassinated your ride by on a mission to me. I think it's helped my science journalism now that that's what I do for sure that I had that grounding in fact checking and accuracy okay. So how did science come knocking on your door well about mid career and? I did sort of leave out that after those couple of first few jobs at Newsweek I I ended up that I was the European Bureau chief for people magazine for several years and that was really because my husband and I had we. When we got married we ended up living in France for a couple of years and then we were living in London. He got a job and so I got a job and the job. I could get some of my colleagues from Newsweek. Had moved to be editors at people so just went to be a reporter at people which really wasn't my sort of jam at the time but then I stayed in got this in a ended up running the thing. It was in the nineties when Diana died actual long so I had this completely other experience as a journalist and I learned a lot about the importance of story and the human side of things from that and I had a lot of fun. Let me tell you there was a you know. I got to do all kinds parties. Will you get to go to everything like you know Wimbledon or concerts or fashion shows or the best seat right and And I even spent a couple days with Tony Blair right before. He became Prime Minister Because his press people wanted a story in people magazine and so you know so there were some very cool things but then there's things that I personally don't. I don't think I have really the skills to be a good celebrity journalist. You'll maybe you'll be happy to know this. I was not. I was not really good at sort of tracking people down and insisting that they tell me things. Reagan WanNa tell me but so so then we moved back to New York and I started having kids and so I was freelancing and I gravitated right back to the kind of stuff. I'd been doing at Newsweek which was kind of health and education and things like that and I got interested in lead poisoning. This is your first then my first book that is basically how I became a science writer. Is That my first book? Which took a very long time to then come to fruition. But I got into it from Children's health perspective because you're new mother because I was a new mother and I was kind of obsessed with the fact that the way I I heard about this doctor who was described to me by my mother as an Unsung Hero. Who had been one of the first to understand that lead was harmful to kids and then had had this big fight with industry to get lead taken out of things turned out to be a very simplistic version of the story but not incorrect cameras. What era this was in the seventies. I mean. His work was in primarily in the seventies and then in the eighties and I was hearing about this in the well my when I first heard about him would have been the very late nineties when my oldest child was just a baby so many new mothers. I was kind of outraged that something that had been shown to be. Bad for. Kids would take such a long time to do anything about so. That's what got me into it. But then I found that there was this other scientists whose name was clear. Patterson he was Geochemists out at Caltech actually right here and he was a very fascinating guy. Did a lot of cool things like dating the age of the Earth but in the process of dating the edgy. Their figured out that lead was contaminating everything so we had a similar story on the environmental side. And this guy. Herb Nadelmann that I was writing about was on the health and kids side and I thought that the two of them would make a really interesting sort of dual biography of how we handle this issue but it meant. I was suddenly spending all this time reading. Claire Patterson's Geochemical Journal articles which were very difficult and I had had chemistry in tenth grade. And like I said I didn't take any more and And I was a little freaked out but what happened. Was that when I wrote the book? All the scientists involved Liked a lot how I told that science some science journalists really do have a strong science background in that can be a great asset. I had the journalism background. The storytelling background. I needed to do the work understand the science but it turned out that I had to explain it well enough so that I could understand it myself. I made no assumptions about what the reader understood by the way for you personally. I think that's the single best way to learn. Is that if you are forced to pass on knowledge you really have to learn an absolutely and I mean I know in my kids school. That's something that they talk about a lot. Is You know now. Now explain it to this kid over here right and so today I now feel. This is one of my favorite things about the work that I do. Is I truly learning something new just about every day you know intentionally and that's really just it's so fun it's really rewarding something. We should still be panicked about with lead. Still you know address well so my book which came out about ten years ago really was celebrating. The success of getting led out of gasoline and other things was one of the Great Public Health Success Stories of the twentieth century because the average blood lead level in Americans drop ninety percent over when it got taken out of gasoline and lead is really a case. Study for everything else that we're putting out in the world and for environmental toxins certainly but also even for climate change because it's all about our inability to really plan for the long haul or to make sure that we knew what was going to do before we put it out in the world but the thing was at the end of the book. I said you know so. We've had this amazing progress. But then what happened was we didn't quite finish the job. We lack the political. Will in the my you know just seemed less urgent. This is it. Can I just say this is a repetitive problem of human memory? Right this is the vaccine is if you grew up around polio. You are not attacks denier. It's just that simple. But then we clean up that condition and then that's exactly right and so you know everything that happened in Flint. Michigan happened years. After my book came out it was that failure to finish the job. Coming back to the bill came. Do that's exactly right. So it's still in paint in old houses. And that's changing slowly as the housing stock sort of turns over and you have more new houses but and then it is in water pipes and now people are paying attention to them and in Flint. You know there were there. Were a lot of things set in place for them to do. That would have protected against this. But they didn't they do it so yes so Lead is still a problem. It is not the problem that it was when we were spewing it out of cartel pipes and things like that but it really does have a long term. Chronic effect on on kids health Well I just WanNa hit your seconds. I can hear you whisper you. Do you have a son? That's deaf I do okay so I was born deaf. Really yes in. I did not get my hearing toll around two years old. We lived out in the country. My mom brought me home from the hospital. I appear to be healthy. I was colic lucky. That was one issue. Probably such a glaring issue that the other stuff that's right so then at a certain point I had an earache or she suspected I did. We went into town. I the doctor looked in my ears and he immediately said DAX'S DAF. My Mom said No. He's not deaf decks touch your nose in the night. I touched my nose and then he turned me so I couldn't see your nose and so I had scar tissue over both eardrums. I had an operation. Could hear the you know the next day of until that point my nickname had been grunt. My brother spoke really early. There are wondering why wasn't speaking fronting granting grunting and then all of a sudden I started speaking and whatnot so I've always had this personal interest in it and then took this fascinating anthropology class on death culture that I got really really interested in and so when I heard that this was what your book was about. I got very excited because we had a pretty specific point of view in Anthropology. Which is most of this? Technology was destroying great in thriving communities in. Weird ways and I don't think it was an aspect people thought of when they thought of say the cochlear implant. This was going to be helpful to get kids online in some capacity hearing wise but all it really did is put them in a position where they weren't really set for the deaf school where they had this great identity and culture and shared community and instead force them to kind of streamline in an area that they couldn't find community and culture. I was just wondering what your personal experience wasn't with yearbook was about. I wonder if any of those things overlap hole for sure so this is contra some controversial stuff still but I will say this so my book is three things I can hear you. Whisper is part memoir. My experience being Alex's mom and my own son was the first deaf child that I knew in any meaningful way. It's also a brain book. One of the things I discovered quickly was how much deafness can be seen as a brain story because whether or not sound gets into. The brain has all these knock-on effects for spoken language but also for literacy and reading and that was not something I knew is that because hearing is the first experience with some kind of conceptual like you're hearing a noise and then you convert it into something that the lack of that that embiid is that the auditory cortex the part of the brain that processes sound needs to be stimulated by sound to operate and and if it is not after a certain period of time it kind of gets co opted. The real estate gets used for something else also. Then it's conceivable that even if there was some magic a hardware upgrade for the eardrums that the hearing cortex would have already exactly the way happens. There's a sensitive period and for hearing which is basically it starts to shut at about age three to seven or three to seven years of deafness. I mean so if you lose your hearing later in life but the the reason it's so significant for very young children is because they need their learning language so let me say this if they have parents who are fluent signers then learning. Asl In America American sign language. Sign languages are different in every country. But if you're learning sign language from fluent native signers the same language circuits lay down in the brain was spoken. Language does for hearing child but the problem is only about five percent of deaf and hard of hearing kids are born to deaf parents who sign fluently and so a hearing parent like me. Even though you can and I did learn some sign is going to be signing at a very rudimentary level. And so there's a lot to this story in. My book does so the third piece I said it was memoir. It's brain and then it's also about deaf cultural history and especially my experience as a hearing parent being thrown into this world. Where there was this political controversy and I was so surprised to find myself in the middle of this because I am a liberal person. I think of myself as tolerant person but the story that the deaf community with a Capital D. was was telling in the nineties and and on and there's still people who do was that it was even tantamount to child abuse to put an implant in your child which is to say that parents don't have a say you know their argument was that you should let kids grow up and be old enough to make the decision themselves but the science the neuroscience will tell you that if you do that you have made a decision because then that window that we were just talking about shots and so in fact I mean so. There are benefits to getting a cochlear implant later in life. Even if you've been dead for a long time but it will not give you the same access to sound that it does if you get it under the age of the of the brain hearing is actually just begins with the ears but hearing is really about the brain and there are people who who learned how to speak just by vibration by feeling their throat and things like that. That is a very hard way to do it. Somebody described it as like trying to learn Japanese through a soundproof window. Like you know we're just watching you know and what I wanted to understand. What the sort of journey I go on in the book is trying to understand how to help my kid who is in this situation that I know nothing about immediately no I. It was a actually. He was born a couple of weeks early and he failed a hearing screening right in the hospital but then we went back a few weeks later and he got tested and they said he passed and they said it was just because there was mucus xeres because he was early and so that was the one thing that we tested for them. We thought was not a problem but then everything was a bit delayed his language especially and so it wasn't until he was about eighteen months old that we knew for sure that he had a hearing loss and then what ended up happening is that it got worse and so the analogy I use. The whole experience was kind of like falling downstairs in slow motion because it just kept took a really long time and getting worse and more things kept happening in whenever you thought you knew what you were dealing with something new happened. And it's a shock to parents. Let me say this son is is about to turn seventeen. He's he's an amazing kid and he's thrived and most deaf people grow up to live really wonderful fulfilling lives right so you have to go from. A TO B to C. You can't just jump over and assume everything's GONNA be okay with encapsulates perfectly. The struggle that all parents have whether they have a deaf child or not. Is that your identity that you place on them and it is. I think the biggest challenges to see them as their own individual and that may include them being in a different community you were in and that's that's very hard one of the analogies that resonated most with me was the idea that having a deaf child if you're hearing parent and don't know the deaf world is a bit like adopting from another race. No so you love your child enormously. But they do have a piece of identity that you will never share. So I explore all of that and had to sort of make myself a little uncomfortable about interrogating my own biases and I do come down. Strongly in on the side of parents who choose a cochlear implant and I think that there are enormous advantages and I did understand though at first I couldn't understand in on most hearing people don't get why deaf people would even be opposed. The short version is that that they think of Def- deafness as a difference and not a disability and not something that needs to be fixed and They understand that adults who lose their hearing later in life when they already are part of the spiral world would choose a coke implant to remain in their social world but for children exactly as you said right at the beginning. It's the worry. Is that you taking them away from deaf culture. My hope is that you can have both. You can have a cochlear implant and you can choose to be part of of the deaf world but I do think that having that access to sound and then language and then what I really came to understand was how important that was also for your ability to learn to read and things like that Bend Downstream. It turns out to be really important. Because you're laying down those Those tracks in the brain for sound and then that leads to language and then that leads to reading and I never thought about sound as being so integral for reading but it is. Do you think that's connected to your dyslexia could be right dyslexia? We often think of Dyslexia as visual. But it has a real auditory component a real sound component with you but to your point if that part of the brain needs activity or will Get Commandeer in the cutoff is three and I was at to think clearly some I would imagine there was some one of the things we know now is how much is even happening. Like just zero to one for a deaf kid for instance. If you get a cochlear implant at one there's some stuff that's changed even before then we know now. Zero to three is so critical but we're also beginning to understand how much is happening in the brain even in that first year right. Yeah didn't there's a lot you can do it with it but anyway so that felt off topic. Maybe you're here. You're talking book but all because the topic of your new book is Friendship And the necessity benefits the biological component the evolutionary and so within the deaf community. That is what you're talking about. They were at least from that perspective. I was hearing in that class. You're asking them to leave the most valuable thing in their life. Which is this community in this friendship and in some cases yes and one of the things I did was really explore what the deaf community was. You know how how it came to be why it was so important and special. What happened really was that the death civil rights movement flowered in the nineteen nineties. Right coca implants for coming on the scene so there was a perfect storm clean away and an ASL was actually being recognized appropriately as a true language so there were a lot of good things happening for deaf people and Cochlear. Implants looked like just one more thing. That wasn't gonNA work. They do work for everyone but in fact they do work in an incredible way from a science point of view they incredible. It is incredible what it can do. And so yes. There's a community and the thing is that. Asl is the beating heart of the deaf community with a Capital D. But it's also true that communication and community can happen then for kids who do use technology to hear because then they are not only in the world but they have an easier time of being part of the hearing world stay tuned for more arm. Sure expert if you dare. We are supported by frame bridge. 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Go to Beta brand dot com slash DAX for twenty percent off okay. So it's very obvious why you wrote the first two books so now why do you think your new book friendship? The evolution biology and extraordinary power of fundamental bond. What and yeah that second book I can hear you. Whisper really got me interested in the brain and it meant then. What happened was that as a science journalist I was primarily covering the brain and psychology. Things like that and I started hearing that there was this new approach in neuroscience or there was a sub field called social neuroscience where they were really considering how the brain interacts with other people and so a lot of people think about neuroscience and it is a lot of it is about mapping connections inside the brain but. I went to a meeting about five years ago the first time I went to a social neuroscience conference and and just for for reference that was only the fourth time they were having a meeting of this group so it really is a relatively new sort of sub field and I realized that they were also talking about mapping the connections outside of the brain from me to you or to my friends and my family and that's all kinds of social behavior but friendship kept coming up and I thought wow I'm hearing about friendship at a neuroscience conference like that's not really something I would have expected. I thought that was interesting. I mean we've cared about friendship as a society for Millennia you know. Aristotle and Socrates Plato talked about it and I'm sure whoever came before them talked about it but we have always thought of it as cultural really and and of course there is a lot of culture to friendship but it turns out. What's new was that there is also this biology to it and an evolutionary story. Because we're finding it in other species friendship or something like it in other species and that just felt really intriguing to me and it also felt like something that would be important and interesting to spend a couple of years on. I mean if you're going to write a book you have to give to decide. You can live with the topic for a few years and and I was at a moment in my life where my kids were beginning to leave home and I was losing my mother and while she has severe dementia now so she's still alive but that was all happening then so I was very. I was certainly buffeted by other people's emotions I was also worried about Was I paying enough attention to my friends because pretty soon I was going to be I. It is very easy for people with children as I have them to. Not Make time for friendship for that to be one of the first things that that gets X. Both obvious and profound that we know how important friendship is. But we don't actually act like it most of the time and it often drops to the bottom of the list especially when you're busy phase of you do it as well with your marital partner which is like okay. Well that's a given so I don't need to nurture that thing it's just there it exists. It doesn't require all kinds of terrain and in fact we snap at our marital partners in ways that we wouldn't treat our friends so there's an I saw you speak about this and one of the things that immediately interested me is how differently. We lovers than Randy. Yes yes but I think. Let's start at the beginning. Let's start with the very basic inescapable facts that we are a highly highly social animal. We are a tiger. We are not solitary reign. Fact we are the primate that lives in the largest cohesive groups ever recorded on this planet. So we're ultimate social animal and we cannot exist. We've never found man or woman existing solitaire on planet earth except for the unabomber. And that's what gets it gets raised as an example the every time there's a mass shooter out they were just the tip of the problem but it is. It is a fact and there's a couple of high horses I'll get on and one of them asleep. People go type of person that only needs three hours and I'll know there is no human that needs three hours or so race inaccurate. Yeah and likewise the notion of the hermit you know the the romantic person on amount. That is not you can do that. Just not how we're supposed to be like it or not. You're correct about that. And yet the thing is that. I thought was so interesting. Was that you know when we think about evolution. At least those of us who are not spending all of our time focused on it like evolutionary biologist do mostly we think about survival of the fittest and competition and survival of the fittest by the way. I'm I'm told Darwin never actually used that phrase but we know what it means right and you have this sense of nature red in tooth and claw right. The Vegas Line is always going to win and what this new science is telling us is that yes. There's competition but there's also been this extraordinary cooperation and so there's at least as much survival of the friendliest as there has been survival of the fittest or you could say that the friendliest turn out to be the fittest in in many cases and we have an appreciated that fully and yet it is. It is what underlies pro that human need to connect that you were just talking. Let's get real basic. There's a group of one hundred people. One of the persons is outcast. Doesn't have any social bonds. You're out in the field. The HYENA comes one guy's got nine friends one guy. No one wants to help. I don manner if the one solo guy is the strongest biggest. He's going down in the person with eight friends that would die for them is living. It's it's predators and sharing food and those are the two really two big things the predation and finding food but also then one of the things that people think is that as social groups became more complex. The brain had to become bigger and more complex to deal with that. And that's part of what explains our our big brains as humans. Yeah there's a few really popular competing theories on why we're so disproportionately intelligent over other primates. But most I think in at least anthropology the most communist just facial recognition requires an incredible amount of computing power right so multi-member groups for you to be able to look at two hundred. People know who they are individually know where their status and what the impact that has on your survival. That's very a lot of complex computer. It is and then you go even beyond that humans. We have fully formed theory of mind so we can understand not only where they are in the hierarchy or who they are but what they might be thinking and that they have their own set of beliefs about the world and that they might not match up with ours and empathy using a very complex in their turns out did a whole story on the new neuroscience of empathy and they're sort of three parts to it and so empathy is a big piece of friendship and it is complicated and it does have some. It's not all slam-dunk positive because it does have this tribal element to it. Can I also add mate? Selection is a big part of evolution. That people aren't considering they just think alike. Who will survive pass on their genes but obviously there they will be selected by May. And then you're standing in your group and how many people like you ve vastly increases your appeal to other members of your group so that sexual selection components also probably rewarding friendship ability cohesiveness. Yeah I'm sure that's true so I didn't look at mate selection so much because I was looking at friendship. Which in some ways by definition is the people. You are not having sex with okay. Although I have friends as well and I've come to decide that that I th I think this new science blurs the lines somewhat because it's more about the quality of the relationship than the origin. The big headline is that friendship is as important for your health as Diet and exercise and that the relationships that are really good for your health are the ones that are really quality relationships. And that can be your spouse but it cannot be too. And that's what they find in other species where they don't necessarily have monogamy so yeah you need a good mate who's GonNa give you healthy offspring but then you need to be able to raise that offspring up to maturity Brian for that. What you need is really supportive environment and in humans you know. We do have monogamous mostly mostly relationships to raise kids in which is great because kids really do benefit from that but in Babboons for instance in my book you know. They really found that what mattered most was the strength of social bonds alike among these female boone's with other female baboons and they were the ones whose babies live longer so the mate selection didn't turn out be the most important thing right. You know we have the same. It takes a village and I think everyone knows that same but I don't think they realize how in discord we are with that concept. We are not living anywhere close to how we were. Designed to live your. You should be in a group of kids and there should be a group of MOMS and DADS and this is how we've lived for ninety nine percent of the time we're on planet earth or just not doing that and when you find yourself in that group you for at least me personally anecdotally. We do have a friendship circle where we'll go on a vacation together and there's like there's eight parents in their sixteen kids it is infinitely easier like so much some magic happen. Yeah when we're in those situations I'm like Oh my God. This feels exactly right. I can feel implicitly that this is how it's supposed to be done and it's so less stressful on me. It's so stressful on the kids. It's all like everyone is benefiting from this and we're so compartmentalized in our lives that it's very hard to to live that way. Yes and vacations is where most of US achieve it if we ever do but yes. I agree one hundred percent. We need that support in. Its why we really need to be prioritizing. Were at least not letting friends drop down to the bottom of the some of the numbers when you say it's as relevant to your health as smoking obesity. I Really WanNa hit that point hard. So people feel properly motivated to consider this in their life because no parent that I know is like yeah. Let smoke cigarettes in the car with the bath and yet I doubt anyone takes it as seriously as that. The first study that made that link to smoking was back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and it was really rate at the beginning of the idea or recognizing that social relationships in health might be connected in almost any way and what they found then with some very early just the first six studies on this which basically followed people for years and had a measure of their social connectedness. The measures were different studies. But the upshot was the more connected you are at the beginning the more likely you are to live for the duration of the study. Let's let's call it ten years and what they found was that the risk of mortality if you were socially isolated was equal to the the mortality risk smoking you were twice as likely to die if you were socially isolated and you're twice as likely to die if you were smoking a lot. Since then. They've done more work. And what the really gold standard that most people refer to now was a big. Meta analysis in two thousand ten. So that's a study of studies where you combine data and so this time instead of six studies it was one hundred and forty-eight studies more than three hundred thousand people and the average length of those studies was seven and a half years and the people who were the most socially connected were fifty percent more likely to live across the breadth of the studies. So in this case it was more about how likely you are to survive. Quitting smoking had less of an effect on how likely you are survive then your social relationships it mattered more than anything else more than obesity. More than physical inactivity more than drinking all these things do they know what's going on physiologically what that's kind of what they've been doing ever since And so initially. The idea was will okay. We see there's this correlation but you're familiar with correlation just means. Two things are happening at the same time. It doesn't mean that was causing the other quite often. You're wrong and quite often. You're wrong and there's been a lot of a lot of bad science exactly exactly so they said well. Maybe the reason there's this connection between social relationships and health is a concept called social support which is basically that you know like your houses under construction and so your friends make you dinner more often or something like that or help. I don't know you know that somebody helps you move when you finally move in or or most pragmatically that you have somebody around to help drive you to the hospital. Should you need to go like Monica? Might notice that looking so good today. I think we'd better go get checked. Something funny currently living at our house so there yeah because a medical thing yes so she's under our care in observation there you go and it is. We can talk about it so I had a seizure and we were in New York and I was with friends a girl's trip. I was with friends. Thank God thank God because I also had one last year okay but I was by myself and I didn't know and we went a year without knowing what it was and so there were people next to me now. We have answers to view our exhibit. A yes so they figured it out. That is social support exactly and it is clearly a real thing and and very important thing and you can understand immediately why that would make a difference for your mortality and your chance of surviving. The thing is this though that that is not the only thing at work and what happens. I mentioned my babboons earlier that I got to go spend a little time. So it turned out that the babboons with the strongest social bonds also live longer and I I mentioned the babies they have more and healthier babies and those in evolutionary terms. You you can't do better than reproductive success and longevity but babboons don't drive each other to the hospital right right so what's going on. Something else is at work here too. It's not only that. And so all this work since then so the the list of things that we know that social integration or and friendship on the one hand and loneliness in isolation on the other hand affect now we know it's cardiovascular functioning immune system cognitive health mental health stress responses. I talked about an and even the rate at which your cells age like the little caps on your cells get shorter faster if you're less socially connected There are still a lot that we are learning about this and we don't have all the answers we. I'm using the royal. I'm not I'm just reporting but you don't say Ron about this. I'm sure this is all leading to a friendship pill so will the other big statistic. There's this long running study at Harvard. The Harvard Study of Adult Development. That followed these people from the thirties. All the way through their whole lives so that gave us this information that you can rarely get in humans where you're really following. The course of you know everything about them and had some medical information social information everything you want the thing that best predicted health especially and happiness at eighty was not your cholesterol level. Not Professional success not your wealth but your satisfaction with relationships at fifty okay and at fifty is often the moment where totally pulling your hair out. Maybe your kids are out of the house. And you're but you're in the middle of your career height of your career. Say or your so. You're busy busy busy area. Whatever it is and I like to highlight that statistic because I think what all of this new science and this fact that there's this biology evolution to this tells us is yes okay. This is adding to the things you should be paying attention to but instead for me if given me permission to hang out with my friends a priority to prayer. Does my friends not to feel bad. I don't have to feel guilty anymore. I'm not writing that story. That's due tomorrow. You know it'll get up early tomorrow. I'll do it but I will be better and healthier and happier and so when my friend be if we go out to dinner tonight because we stupidly categorize that as frivolous activity frivolous exactly extra. And that's that's my whole thing here. That's my stick to many people. Think of friendship is kind of frivolous and a lovely nice to have but not essential. It is essential part of the infrastructure of who we are as humans but I do think we're making progress in since I was raised till now like in my circle like people exercise that in that period of time is protected and understood. And if someone says oh I can't. I'm working out you go like Oh yeah you should. Yeah good yeah and it would be great if increasingly so like yeah. Your friendships were were given the same priority. Invalidity we when your partner asks you to have those moments or whatnot. My Wife. This year is taken zero trips with me but it went on a twelve drake girls trip and then an eight day. I gotta say in the moment when it's been suggested I'm like Oh okay. Well when will but then the visual benefits of it are extraordinary? It actually makes my life way easier when she's just had twelve filling days with her friends somewhere and then comes home. She's a different person. Do you go on trips with your class. I do I yes I go off roading with my rose excellent get those adrenaline and cortisol levels through the well. I'm not saying that spouses shouldn't also go away together. They should but but they do need to make time for each other to spend time with other friends. Exactly as you're saying and it's lovely that that you get that now can I give you anecdotal Two years ago my stepfather who had prostate cancer. I went up to visit my mother when I got. There became clear that that week was going to be the end and I was very involved in that process in mostly just in a role of like I got this mom. Let me take this over and in that zone. I was just like it's time and it wasn't until I left. I immediately flew from there to lax. Where I just picked up my three year old daughter and then we went to Detroit for fun just the two of us that have been planned for months and I got there and I was like all of a sudden the week hit me and I got very unhappy and restless in a pessimistic. All the stuff and I'm with my daughter in it so many times. I'm like I'm just GonNa go home. I don't know what we're doing here. I'm miserable I just need to go home go home. Finally my friends got Johnson came to visit us at the hotel he and I started talking. I started talking about the week. And how crazy? It was in heightened and all this stuff and then you know that was. I don't think I've ever felt a more profound dose of the utility of them and I just was like. Oh my God what pill could have given me that or what anything. Give Magic one hundred percent. I say that as a science journalist. Yeah yeah it just feels like without it. I don't know what I would. I would have done. Also quite often. My advice is always like he find that best friend in junior high. That's the thing that changed my life. The thing that changed my life was I met someone that was a soul mate and defined ourselves together and he gave me the courage to be this person. I would have normally been afraid to be and I really just don't think without that person. I'm anywhere that I'm currently at and we interview Malcolm. Glad well and he had that friend in his school when he was a ninth grade and he talks about Flea Anthony. Kiedis meeting each other. It can just be on like the power of having that early on and what can do the rest of your life. I love that you brought up middle school. I love it because Have a whole chapter in the book about child in Adolescence and the intensity of friendship at the time especially it's intense for good or or not right. It can also be hugely painful and there are kids who feel excluded and ignored but what adults need to recognize is how powerful. Those relationships are in fact. A lot of the psychologists I spoke to think of them as attachment relationships we often think of attachment only as mothers and babies and parents but John Dolby. Who created the idea of attachment theory thought of it as a cradle to grave phenomenon for other relationships in our lives as well as that caregiver infant relationship? And so I think you and your friend had have sounds like an attachment bond and that you you know you are so important to each other in that love and affection has had a lot to do with your thriving in succeeding in the world. Which is what bulbs said that. That strong relationship with all those positives helps us to do more and to do better and in middle school it turns out that that is you mentioned that it was that you came together with shared identity. And that's what is happening so much to kids that age. They're beginning to figure out who they are in a way that is different and they sometimes diverge from the kids that they've known in been good friends with all along because now this one is wants to be an athlete in that one wants to be an actor and doesn't mean they don't like each other anymore but but you just spend more time with somebody who wants to do what you. WanNa do I mean that's the sort of fundamental simple fact about friendship is both similarity and proximity. Do have a lot to do with it. But I think that that finding the shared kind of interest and worldview is the central piece of it. And if you're lucky enough to find that person at that age it's the prime moment in your brain development even to make that bond be just sort of this fundamental thing in your life so I have part of the book where I've been off Watching these racist macaca that live on an island in Puerto Rico. Where they're doing a lot of very important science of friendship there watching the social behavior like kind of exacting gossip columnists like who does what to whom so they're literally charting you know who's nearby. Al and proximity has a lot to do that. And then I come home to Brooklyn and I find my then. Seventeen year old son. Jake Apu's my oldest sitting on the couch with his best friend Christian playing video games and I was pissed because it looked like they had never left in the week that I was gone. They were sitting on the Games. And and you know I'm a jet anything better to do. You're sitting around doing nothing. And then I had to stop and so oh wait Lydia. They are doing something look at the proximity. They're just like bonded monkeys. They're right next to each other on the couch. You know the these two have been best friends from four there. Now Twenty one. They're about to graduate from college but so they've been best friends since they were four. I mean when they haven't seen each other they meet up again the physical hugging in joy. And it's a beautiful thing too. Oh I always say like our breakthrough as a species in cutlery. It's friendship of. I think it's the single greatest part of being human well and so and that part of it so many people have appreciated that but now the bonuses that is going to help you live longer healthier more and more for an Ericsson relentlessly. It's like it's all who you're with. It has nothing to generally do where you're at. I couldn't say it better. That's that's exactly right and it turns out that that's all through this science of friendship that understanding that and acting on it. So for instance parents like instead of freaking out about how much time your kids are spending online. You should be looking at. What are they doing their end? With whom The point is the with whom piece is really important and also it turns out that kids do better in school if they are allowed to work with their friends and we're often spending time pulling them apart because they can be disruptive and I say that as the mother of three boys you have often been separated from their friends and I get it. I'm not saying that the boys are behaving in a way that is conducive to the classroom necessarily working. But but I do think that as adults we have the tendency to only see the negative of that and not maybe try to work with the positive side and maybe they don't get to sit together during the lecture but then for the project you could put them back together because they turns out that they have deeper conversations more cognitively challenging and they they go to more interesting places in their discussion if there with a good friend and there can be benefits to other stuff too but like that piece of it so interesting to me that we I don't know I. I just wish adults would consider the friendship factor. Just a little bit more or like if you're going to send your kid away to camp or something you know really really. It matters whether that kid has a good friend to go with And you know we often think there are things that are worthwhile for. It's still on the parenting side of this worthwhile for kids and they are in terms of you know like learning about something important but if you send a kid by himself or herself it's the rare kid who can really do that and engage in the way that that they'll get the most out of it whereas if they have the support of good friends they might. Well we'll go. That brings me immediately to so knowing. You're coming here and thinking of my own experience. How beneficial all these friendships have been. I have to acknowledge like I do that. Easy and so. I'm nervous about just going like everyone should pursue this and some people are good at it and some people are bad at it. And it's heartbreaking to me for the people who have a hard time connecting with other people so you know. What would we do about that? I think the most important things about this new line of work is that the biggest step change in terms of your health and your wellbeing is from zero to one for friends. So you need okay one. Okay you don't all have to be this life of the party you don't have to have big groups of friends. Some people do. I mean it's basically you do in friendship but Doodoo friendship somehow and and so there are different styles and a lot of people prefer just one or two good friends and as long as they have that they're okay now. There are also benefits to quantity and diversity of friendships and there are some other things we could get into but fundamentally the most important thing is a couple of quality bonds. If you've got one you're way ahead of the game There are still some people who don't even have the one. There are people who insist that they're good. And it's important to understand that loneliness too Social Psychologists these days is actually the mismatch between the amount of social connection. You want and the amount that you have so it's not just about being socially isolated because sometimes being alone is a lovely thing. I actually liked to be alone some of the time because I have a very busy life and lots of kids and lots of noise and and I love it when everybody else is okay but a little of that goes a long way for me and then I really start wanting to connect and I think a lot of people are that way some people though kind of stay there and there are people who are introverts most introverts though do have that one or two really good friends or or even a few more. Stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare. We are supported by Legalzoom legalzoom taxes. That's one thing. We all have to deal with this time of year and as a business owner. It's critical to know all your options. That's why you should lean on legalzoom. Llc's as escorts. They all mean different things when it comes to paying taxes and limiting your personal liability. There's a lot to think about. It would legalzoom. You don't have to worry about doing all the leg. Work Yourself to find the right answers. 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I think we live increasingly in a time. Where you can get pretty pleasure? Ably satiated or distracted by some of the options on the table. That feel social that. Don't as we've had other experts in here. There is a lot of physiological things that do not happen when you're having a relationship online. Yes you need to see people you need your mirror neurons to be triggered you need all these different gets the social parts of the brain really going and the communication parts of the brain. And that's I contact in person is different from even like skype chat. But it's not that there's no value to the skype. I don't think it's just that is different and that yes. I agree totally. You need those in-person relationships. I think it's really interesting though. I was happy to discover that as as I was coming to the end of reporting on the book it turned out that there was this raft of new work on social media looking at social media and wellbeing but also specifically relationships and the big picture story was that it's not as terrible as we've all come to believe if you are using it for instance as one extra channel with which to communicate with people that you also see offline and then like it strengthens those relationships and if you have a bigger network online you tend to have a bigger network offline so they're they're actually is more going on. That's more of a mirror of your online in your offline life than we sometimes appreciate refreshing. Take well I was kind of dreading to be really honest having to report on this piece of it because it felt like a quagmire. It felt like right. There's so many people sort of there's hysteria over here and then there's this sort of tech enthusiasts so I wasn't sure I mean it's it's not easy if you're not the researcher either to sort of decide that you feel that there's a story that a story line that's rising above the rest of it and that is what I felt. Which was that? We can tamp down the hysteria a bit. What we need to do. Scientists are beginning to ask more nuanced contextual questions about this and they're trying to sort of say as the big picture even for adolescents. So let me just give you the facts and figures here so there. Was this really important. Big Study that came out from University of Oxford a year ago. And what they did was they looked at. These big data sets that existed about adolescents and had a lot of information about their lives not just technology use and what they were looking at was a statistic percent of variation in wellbeing that could be attributed to technology use and it was it was negative but it was less than half a percent four percent. This is for three hundred and fifty thousand adolescents. And so we're talking about at a population level. We're not talking about every individual kid. Okay then that's an important point but it was point four percent wearing glasses which I am right now was worse. Or you're being you. I've I'm old enough now that I comfortable in my skin and I you know but wearing glasses was worst eating a good breakfast sleep you I mostly. It's getting a good night's sleep was so much more important on the positive side for your well being than technology use on the negative side that the point of this work and this was a much more rigorous statistical technique in the point was to look at the forest for the trees and say what is the net the net. And how does it shake out compared to everything else going on in kids lives right and the and the other piece and I mentioned this before but I'll say it again because it's so important is that it turns out that parents what they obsess about is time online but the very concept of screen time has come to mean almost nothing because it encompasses so much stuff? That's so different that scientists now are saying. Well that's not at all what we should be counting and yet that's what most of the research at the beginning was counting so it was just saying you know you spent more time you spend less time but they weren't looking at what you were doing in that time and and so it was just you know when when a field of sciences knew that it is a sort of a blunt instrument takes time to figure out how to ask better questions. But that's where we are now and so in addition to that study from Oxford. There's been several others that do this kind of sort of. Let's get the big picture view and the big picture. View just isn't quite as terrible as we have been led to believe but that doesn't mean that there aren't some people especially teenagers for whom social media is a problem Like especially if you already suffer from depression and anxiety it can exacerbate it but knowing that you already have that problem in that makes it worse. There's a different solution to that than worrying about social media as being the sort of evil thing that is sending everybody down this path of destruction. Well at the conclusion of of researching and writing this book. What was the number one moment you had as apparent you're like Yeah well there were. There were many so I've already I already mentioned one. Was this sort of watching my kid. Play Video Games and recognizing that while I am not saying that kids should play video games all the time that I as a parent was just really missing a big piece of the story that was going on the social visceral connection between these two boys but the other the other thing just in general as a parent clearly this health and longevity research is telling us that pretty much the most important skill or one of the most important skills that our kids can have in the world is to be be a good friend to be able to make friends to be able to maintain friends and we adults need to recognize that. That's a skill that they grow th they that they develop acquire and the the perfect in their net. They don't come into it instantly. Being good at it necessarily and so we need to be explicit about that being an important thing to be. It can't just all be about achievement and you know so. I really work now with my kids about sort of not that you should be intervening in every little interaction. In fact a big piece of it is that kids need enough time together unstructured to just hang out work it out amongst themselves and that time like like sleepovers I dreaded sleepovers as a parent you know other than blood and fire like. Can we have a sleepover? It's my least favorite center. Just because it's a pain and I get tired. It's noisy and they don't sleep. I don't sleep. Everybody needs too much junk or I have to cook for more whatever and I I wish I was more generous spirit about it but that was always way. I felt but I really have come to see it differently. I see that as one of the last unstructured bashes of childhood and and Yeah Okay. I know there's a lot of worry we're at parents are like. Oh but their rules are different fine. I can't believe there's nobody's house that you think your kid can stay at seeing other rules in action could be more beneficial. Oh we do this this way. They do it that way. What's the result? But the one other thing I just WanNa say as a parent that I think is really really important and this is true like with we mentioned spouses and everything but you gotta model the thing that you think matters all day long you can say all day long but if you never spend time with your friends or you never say you know what this is what I'm doing now and it. You Kid are not absolutely everything you know what I mean. Then you're not sending the right message causing agree more. Well what's funny? Will you have framed? This in the single most provocative way possible. It'd be if you're a parent of a teenager. Who had a ton of friends and smoke? Cigarettes versus was completely isolated and alone and didn't smoke. Cigarettes note parent in the world wouldn't think the priority the cigarette smoking but just speaking S- purely data data driven. You'd probably be better worrying about the isolated kit. I just wanted to dance. Provocative is and I have not had that thought and I and I'm going to tread carefully but I gotta say that you have a point you have a point you should still work on getting them to not smoke but if you have pickle right nope this is true so if you have a kid who has a harder time. Do you try to do play dates. Do you try to teach them about cooperation. There are there things you can enact that can help with that. Yes there are and I say this not as an expert therapist child therapist or or even a teacher having to deal day in day out in the classroom but but it turns out that there are some sort of small things adults can do like. I just have done a story on friendship in autism actually and there was a study that found that kids with autism who are mainstreamed in inclusive environments are often socially left out. And it's not that they're being rejected. They're kind of being ignored and on the playground. It always looked like they weren't interested but now what we know is that they are interested in social interaction and so it turned out that. There's a couple of things did that that helped but also getting the adults on the playground to just do small things like check that that kid knows the rules to the game that these other kids are playing in sort of help. Say Well maybe you can all play together just inserting. It doesn't always work. I'm not I'm not being really pollyannaish about this year. I know kids can be their own world But it turned out that that did help. That did make a difference in that. Like on a playground for instance. The adults often just thought that their job was to sort of stand. You know. Be More of a chaperone. Distance Violence Bay right minimize the the most critical stuff but not engage and small. Things helped now. If it's your own kid who's sitting home. I do think that the shared interest piece of friendship. Is I? Keep coming back to that when people ask me about either helping kids make friends or adults who are lonely or have just moved to a new place or or older adults who've retired in our sort of staying home. It's very hard to get people to just become friends by sort of throwing them together but if they have a shared purpose for shared interest then that almost always works better and so for a kid who's really alone. I do think that it would be really important for parents. Not to guess on their own part what they think their kid might like but to really try to figure out what their kid actually likes. It can be hard. I know it can be and sometimes if you really can't get that information then maybe you have to try a bunch of different things a little trial by error. I don't know but that does turn out to be something that brings kids together and remember like even if there's just one friend. Yeah that's okay. That will work and so parents don't have to think well. She only has this one friend which we often do. It's tricky because I feel like or in this weird age. Now were almost D- incentivizing incentivizing seizure. So I knew exactly disincentivize cooperation. Because we're like that's squashing their personality. That seems to be kind of this new agey thought of well. We want them to grow up to be strong and independent in this and that so let them just kind of a part of me is like that's not how the World War One of the La Silo like right technique movement that a lot of people use. I'm not saying I'm critical of it. But basically the goal is a personal validation versus outside validation which I think is a great goal but also at the same time I I was the first when this was being pitched in my house w county now that we are social animal. That's supposed to respond to the pressure of the group. And that's how we all monitoring other keep each other like so. The goal isn't Total Independence. And self validation because you will not work within a group and we are group animal. So I'm a little hesitant to some of those sweeping thoughts thank. You hadn't even looked at my book yet. When you travel within the argument I make a lot of it is that and we especially in the US. We have this real culture of in reality and independence and there's some great things about that but it just sort of fails to acknowledge how much we are a group animal and how much the community matters. You know it's funny. I just came from this conference that was about adolescent development and education and and one of the things that came up was well. What about like if? Kids are being home-schooled if kids are home schooled or they're just doing online courses and often the reason given is because they're being bullied and bullying is a huge problem and it really is You know sometimes there's physical danger and sometimes it's just. It's you really worried about kids mental health but one of the problems is that if they get taken entirely out of social interaction than they're missing out on a huge amount of social learning missing the single most important part of even going to school. It's not yeah you in other ways to learn how to cooperate. Kids need those peer to peer relationships. I'm not trying to judge apparent who who's really afraid for their kids health but they do need to get that peer to peer somewhere else. That is the critical piece of this. Is Maybe that particular school environment is not the right one. I can't judge you know case by case but knowing that peer to peer interaction is essential for kids in that. There's all this stuff that they're going to learn from that. They can't get from their relationship with parents alone is really important. I think it would also be very very tempting as well and I would not fault any parent but again because we project so much of our own experience onto our kids if they are uniquely terrible experience with school. They're that much more likely. I think to be like you know what I'm not putting them through this when you don't know okay so I have somebody for you to be talking to later this this spring of my friend. Judy Warner Is Writing a book called and then they stopped talking to me and it's about making sense of middle school and her whole idea is that parents are putting their own filter middle school on how kids get opposite way. I'm expecting let's say the best. You're my kids won't come to fruition. Now that that can be hard to pull off but or my last question for you is. What is the difference between vertical and Horizontal Relationships? It has to do with authority and an age so vertical relationship would be between parent and Kid. Oh and horizontal. It'd be peer to peer. Oh Okay and so for instance there. Things you get from peer-to-peer horizontal relationship that you can't get from your parents are there's elements of trust and cooperation that come with those kinds of relationships and loyalty but but really importantly to be a good friend. One of the things you have to be able to do is give support. And you don't really get to do that with your parents so much. You really are receiving support. But you're not learning how to give it to and so with your friends you do start to get that give and take and that. That's actually one of the most essential pieces of friendship like at the simplest definition of friendship. Is that it has to have this. Reciprocity in operation to it I constantly obsess about the notion that we are preparing them for a relationship. They'll never have in their life. Which is not gonNA fucking dote on these girls. The way I'm doing it. So as a misleading them. No you're not. You are storing up for them that that is a gift giving them a gift and being wholly loved by one's parents there is nothing better really truly others irregularly say to my wife if they think they're going to get away with this shit with a boyfriend that why they need. Both they need you and then they need those peer to peer relationships those horizontal relationships where they get the message that yeah yeah what worked over. There is not exactly the same over here and you have to be a different person. And so that's my biggest worry about kids who are either isolated or are or then kicked out of school and pure time with parents. Yeah right yeah well the. I'm so glad that you're making this as important as the other health risks that we all kind of observe because again. I'm just a huge proponent of like find your soulmate created identity together. Make each other feel confident. I just think it's the most special glorious thing about being on this ride so friendship the evolution biology and extraordinary power of life's fundamental bond. Pleased by Lydia's book and learn all about this in prioritize in your own life your friendships and model good friendships. Be a good friend receive. Good frankly thank you so much for having me. This was great and I'm so glad. Friendship is such a part of both of your lives through the recipe of our success. Sure is you really are specific to carry that out. We look forward to your next endeavor. I'm sure something will grab you again and take you in a wholly other direction. Perhaps okay bye-bye and now my favorite part of the show. The fact check with my soul mate. Monica pad man for back. I'm so excited to be recording in person face to face as if as our last couple fact checks were remote. Catch everyone up assuming not. Everyone watches my instagram stories. I can't imagine they do. I was traveling for top gear America. I went to Colorado. Then I went to Austin yes. Best Friend Aaron. Weekly flew to Austin to be with me for the days of filming. They then pulled the plug. Get on filming. He and I drove home. I don't want to Brag but fourteen hundred miles in eighteen hours and thirty minutes stops. Well no I had to stop for my sound P. Nonstop Teller. No no no hotel stop or restaurants stops. Yeah we ate in the car and he peed on the side of the road and when fueled up and that was it so we drove straight home and then we were miniature mouse's beautiful apartment. Yes God what it was like being away at a spar some smells so good in their monarch has such great style. I mean I'm always been aware of it but I was acutely aware of it being in your little dwelling. Yeah even the Napkins bowls and the plates are all set on the dining room table. And they're very fashionable. These beautiful cloth Napkins with cute little embroidered. Fox's on I just got those. They're so cute. We're so opposite as boys and girls on you and I when I was a Bachelor. Yanni twenty plates all look the same. I want the Bulls match the plates Blah Blah Blah. Every dish is kind of unique interest. An artful you open up like twelve different variety of boll law. I love those blue ones. That are deep dish. They're kind of narrow at top the very deep time okay. Well they're great in. My son made us hellofresh last night. It was fucking delicious this beef over some rice some peppers. Oh my God. We wanted six. More servings of it was so good but you're linens are beautiful the couches extraordinary son's been sleeping on it. It's ruined it's everything in your house is ruined. I had terrible gas the last two nights in your bed. You definitely need to throw your mattress out. My son is ruined your couch filter. Yes it's become deck shepherds filters prototype. Oh and I showered in your your fucking shampoo and conditioner is so nice. What a luxurious product I washed my butthole with LAVA SOAP. You Hal yeah it stung my butthole exit. You must have a bunch of cuts. You know it's a disaster back there look the only that's comforting is my sons. Amos is twenty times worse than Oh that's true. It's all relative. Well the soap I use is a volcanic ash so and I love it. I'm obsessed with it and I heard it so I know I know. I'm glad I'm happy to share with my friends but I I buy like fifteen at once and then I have enough for like the year ahead of the curve. You're hoarding before anyone else before corona analysts. Why I'm against hoarding. During this time I think it's really a bad idea to buy like four hundred cases of toilet paper toilet paper for people who need it. I just don't I mean I brought it up with Sunday but I don't have all the things of all things toilet paper because all these people have showers. That's what I said. You didn't have shower scrub your asshole. Exact but boy what a party we had in there. It's it's a fun and kind of like tinguely to know people are staying at Your House. I bet there's something really kind of like scary about it. Sure like we're going to read your journal or you're going to find something that I didn't take care of well enough or even like you said I'm GonNa buy you a lamp for your nightstand and I was like oh no like I was like. They're going to come in and they're going to think like oh it's so dusty in here no way. I felt nervous. Oh my God no We love it. Were in love with that place. We want to retire. They're also loved I I have this feeling when I rent a motor home or when I'm staying in a hotel for a protracted period I like when my life gets small like that. We all have this desire to like by these outrageous houses big piece of property where that's the dream we were sold but me and when your life gets tiny. Manjoo reminded me of living that one bedroom apartment for ten years in Santa Monica and it was fucking easy. I know it's Kinda worry free. I like that. You know you texted me and said why did you buy a house is totally them in there like you had it made in this now. I do have a house sitting there with. Can't do anything to it for. Who knows how long. Yeah Yeah. It's been a crazy tying. It has been a crazy time in. I think some people enjoy crazy times. Some people hate them and I'm sympathetic to the people that hate him but I am the type that likes like a little. Bit of chaos. Ooh I've never experienced this like we took a walk. How goddamn that was a fun. Walk six feet apar-. We walked six feet apart which was weird. But it was a heightened walk. We had more fun on that walk than we would have normally had on a walk. Well it felt like going to Disneyland or something so it was the only thing we could do. It makes me appreciate the tiniest things like to does. It does make you feel very grateful and have a lot of gratitude for friendships circling back around. I've never felt more us. Take for granted the people in your life and the proximity to those people and all of it like this is a good wakeup call to friendships are real real real important. Yeah or one of author so my son and I've been doing which is really fun is We've been doing online. Aa meetings. Yeah that are set up on that. Zoom Zoom is having a real edey having a boom. But they're really fun. I totally dig it. And then it's funny because my son and I are the only two people that are sitting next to each other in the media now everyone else's at their computer and they're worse snuggling on the couch. It's really funny. Tonight's meeting we're going to do shirtless. We decided just to spice it up for the other guys in the meetings. We didn't do a fact check on the last episode and so interesting you you totally are of the opinion that he he disagreed with me. And I'm of the opinion. He agreed with me. I don't disagree but I think he was saying like that could be right and also don't think that could we get a tie-breaking vote from rob just to say what do you think. Sanjay's response was to my question. I think it's similar to what she said that it could be thing but it's not the mindset that's going to help contain. The heat is earned a lot of credibility. Because it's your theory that he disagrees with me because he's a boy yeah. Boys agree with each other in general and girls agree with each other. Will yet. You think you have the same theory about me and kristen when we were in Turksancacoes. That was like the big show. Yeah you thought that we were like always on the same page and you can never felt ganged up on right. Yeah Yeah Yeah I do. Think when it's a male or female debate. There's been a couple of them when it's that specific topic you're clearly on the female side which you should be and I'm clearly on the male side. I'm saying more in the on the spectrum of pragmatic versus emotional. I think you're in the dead center of Chris and I would. You agree with that. I see yes I do. I mean if it's a zero to ten zero is the most emotional head space you can be an acting purely out of emotions and ten is acting purely out of facts. I think I'm a seven. I think I'm closer to acting out of facts than acting out of emotional. Do you think that's true? I know I think it'd be a six but yeah yeah yeah. He is very much more emotional than I am. And I'm very much more pragmatic. Yeah I tend to think that they're all tied together anyway. I think it's a little naive to think that you're only pragmatic because you're looking at facts like there's emotion going into that too of course by the way. I hope it's clear I'm not making an argument that I'm right. That people should be like me. No no I don't think people should be like me. I think some people should be like me and some people should be like kristen and some people should be like you think they need. We need all variety of us. Yeah I work okay. So Lydia has the sweetest message that could be possibly I know. Yeah I mean it is a tricky situation because right now everyone is. So that's why you gotta find ways like community call. People don't tax pick up the phone. Here's exactly it makes such a big difference phone skype Sex Marco Polo Polo Saks fifth Marco Polo has been saving our friend group. We have a girls Marco Polo. And we've just been on it nonstop It's video messaging. I told my mom to get on it yesterday. I will will say though I. This isn't lining up a male female way the way I thought it might cause the most of the meetings of men in zoom meetings. The guys are they're very emotional about the this whole thing down. There's a lot of fear there should be. It's this is a real threat. Of course of course we have a different opinion which is totally fine. Which is I? Don't believe you need fear to do. All the right things base now the other thing is I think he. You are conflating. Two things you think because people are talking about it and talking about stats and being knowledgeable that there's panic and that's doesn't seem a hundred percent fair. I don't think that is panicked to be up to date and know everything you have said like. I don't think there's a reason to just like be watching the news and like getting out information but there is. Don't yeah I. We disagree on that. I think a lot of people. I know are glued to CNN. There glued twitter there glued to answer. They're getting all day update which I don't think it's healthy at all. If you WANNA get informed schedule on our night the you're going to watch your show you're GONNA learn at the end of the day all the updates. So you're well informed. You don't have to spend all your waking hours doing it. You can do it in a scheduled slot so that doesn't overtake your thoughts. That works for you. It wouldn't work for you to watch CNN all day. That would make you feel panicky. I hear you. I totally wanted the first couple of days. I did it. I compare it to people's endless obsession with trump on the left or they just can't eat it enough. They gotta eat it all day long and they gonNA talk about all day long. I personally disagree with that notion of living. But why do you have to disagree with that as a whole I? Can't you just say personally? That doesn't work for me. I'm not GONNA do that but to say that other people shouldn't do. It doesn't seem helpful because you don't know what it's doing for them. It can meet giving them a sense of control that they need in a world of chaos right now. It could be providing them something that they need could be. There's no studies for us to know yet but there other studies on other topics where I believe. It creates anxiety for protracted periods of time as opposed to just dedicating an hour to worry about it knowing what you should do the next steps for tomorrow but sitting around watching the death toll and the ticker tape. I just can't imagine how that's possibly helpful but it is actually in my opinion. Because if you're debating whether you're GONNA go on a walk with someone and walk one foot away from them or six feet if you had just watched CNN you might be like. I'll take the extra precaution of I'm going to go to the grocery store today. All bring wipes with me if I haven't been watching CNN. I'm probably not doing that right. So it just circle back to what I think are fundamental disagreement is. I don't think you need that to be motivated but I think maybe you personally need that to be motivated or you lease believe other people need to leave a lot of people knowledge to be motivated. Yeah and also. How would they know they know it to do? If they're not paying attention you can learn everything in a half hour this stuff that's on. Tv is about a half hour. Content spread out over twenty four hours. If you watch us as you're learning the same thing over and over again then a new host come on Don Lemon tells you the Shit Anderson Guber just told you and then Anderson tells you stuff Sunjay said there's no real new information there's a few data points that come out every day and they can be learned in fifteen minutes and I hope people don't need to be fearful and scared to do the right thing. That's a pessimistic view of us. I think I just think it's a lot to ask of people to not be fearful right now. It's okay to be fearful I just. That's just the truth it's okay. There's a scary chaotic thing that we don't know what it's GonNa turn into there's so many unknowns and so many factors into asked people to not be scared of that is not really in touch with human emotion. I mean that's what happens with or are you agree. That's totally what happens. I don't think anyone should feel guilty for feeling fearful it really is just. Do you think you need fear to be motivated. I don't think so but you do. And that's that's totally fine. I just think it's individual. I don't think you need it. Clearly you don't and I believe that you don't. I don't think you're lying and I think some people need it and there's probably spectrum but I want to tell people how they should be handling this because I think people are right now overrun with anxiety and they know when they feel anxious. I for those people. I would recommend that you schedule a time to get updated and don't spend all day doing it for those people who are feeling genuine overwhelming and overwhelmed. That's I think that's a good idea. okay so you said there are high rates and identical twins of one being right handed in one being left handed so in about twenty one percent of identical twin pairs one twin is right handed in the other is left handed or ambidextrous. The twenty one percent so since identical twins share identical genes. This is evidence that handedness is not a totally genetic trait. There's a subset of identical. Twins called mirror image twins mirror. Imaging twins occurs when the fertilized ovum separates later than usual sometime between seven and twelve days after fertilization. They may have hair world that wind in opposite directions and moles or other skin markings that are identical body. Yeah and if you cases of mirror imaging one twin display seitis in various where the position of internal organs is on the side opposite to their usual placement. The heart is on the right rather than on the left. For example you know some boys erections curve to the right or the left. I wonder if the mirror twins the boys Boehner goes to the right and then this twingos having Boehner's in the fetus in certainly. Not but if it's growing mirror image. We need more details. Bang Boehner Studies all look into academia fascinating fraud. Put that on the yearly factor. Okay she said survival of the fittest which she was like. I don't think Darwin even actually said survival of the fittest which was coined knock by Darwin but by the philosopher Herbert Spencer Oh Herbie Spenc- is widely misunderstood. According to this Darwin did not consider the process of evolution. As the survival of the fittest. He regarded as survival of the fitter because the struggle for existence is relative and thus not absolute Good Distinction Darwin. He says smart still with us to two hundred and fifty eight years old this year. Oh my goodness yes. Incredible proving he was fitter. He took the sorcerer's stone. Yes and even keeping up with Harry Potter as your kids are reading it no Yeah missing out. I know I know I love how much you love it. I want to send you to hogwarts. Only a part of me wishes like my seizure affected my brain a way that I was living a truly every now and then a part of me feels like what's happening right. Now is not real that I'm living in my seizure. Sure that I'm still in the seizure and then soon all come out of it but right now I'm like this is what happens in a seizure so in the real life world. I'm seizing so it's like a dream you know. I had a very similar experience in this horrific rollover accident when I was eighteen. And you know. The car was flattened. I was in the back of told you the story. That glass blew out. I should have been injected and I just walked out of it. I remember being like a High School Party two days later and I was at the party and I just kept thinking. I think I'm Dad. I don't think you can survive that way and I don't think I'm letting go. Yeah I have this pervasive. Feeling that I wasn't letting go for at least a week convince I I was dead. It just didn't add up. Yeah I've had that a few times a few thoughts of like. Oh I wonder if this is real or if my brain is skit saying that's why it's happening and then I was thinking like oh well if that's true. I hope I get to live out some sort of wonderful man to like a hog war. It's like to actually go there. Something during the seizure in love with turns posner when you read the books like did you want him. As you did is not my favorite character in the book. Who's a serious black? Is My favorite character Sirius Black. I don't I don't know because an in wizards can live like okay. Really old question did. Did you have a boyfriend in that story like someone you're in love with love? Sirius black I don't know if I was like hot for him. I mean maybe it was. I mean he was like so mysterious and brooding and he was misunderstood but he did. He did the right thing. We'll care for hairy. Yeah kind of like well speaking of my boyfriend so I watched contagion twice two days in a row and I'm dying to watch it again. No one we'll watch it with me again. I'll watch it. I love that so tonight I loved it so much I ever seen. Oh my God and it rose the second in the Warner Brothers Library after Harry Potter since this all began. Everyone's watching it. It's so good my boyfriend's in it he's wonderful and hot and even though he's in the middle of the contagion he still hot and okay so I was obviously of. I was scared because of the contagion but part of the contagion in that movie is they have seizures so I saw a bunch of people having seizures and I did not like that part I really did. Not like there was so much foam coming out of their mouth and it was spewing out. Oh spittle yeah in the movie and I was like that must be so exaggerated. I knew I had a little bit of foam so then I asked. Kristen if it was exaggerated and she said no I said I had that much foam. And she said yes. Are we sure she's not exaggerating? I think she would exaggerate on the other side of. She was going to exaggerate so I think that was true. It looked horrible. Also going to the powder had a seizure on it and she that is like no she had a lot of phone but sh- I'm saying that is the most eagles acting I've ever seen because it looks disgusting. She's so pretty in that movie and then she has a horrible season and she dies quickly. Sorry spoiler but it is like the first two minutes of the spoiler before you so early on if you see the poster you can tell. She's half dead on the poster anyway so then I had to talk to my. They're pissed about this. The reason I'm sharing this is in case. Anyone has something similar. I was feeling like I wonder if people like you or other. People are getting annoyed that I'm still talking about it or I have questions about it. I'm looking into it still and sometimes I fear that that's bothering you or bothering other people. She said I. Of course you're going to have anxiety like so. It'd be abnormal if you weren't having anxiety about it and to of course we're asking a bunch of questions in you're still thinking about it and you're trying to figure it out because you weren't there for that You had an experience that you weren't there for and you're lying on other people's information for bill to integrate this into your brain and your body so yeah you're gonNA have to ask a Lotta questions and continue to and I. I really liked that. The explanation of what's going on. Yeah I never mind when you talk about it because I think you and I often fall into this very well worn male female dynamic which is guys want to try to solve the problem when they hear someone say something. It's not our nature to think. Oh our job is just to listen in to commiserate in. Let the person know that they've been seen in heard we take it as We got to solve this for you so it doesn't happen again so quite often. When you're scared I jump right into. Let's do X Y and Z. So that you're not scared like even that movie I would. I would say while you're dealing with this fear of it. Don't watch that movie. You know that would be part of my suggestion. It's such a good movie but that's where my head goes is. I don't like that you're uncomfortable and I want to prevent you from being uncomfortable. So I'm going to think of a lot of ways that this won't happen again it but it sounds like probably often not either sympathizing with you or empathizing with you but but really I don't either of us are at fault. I think it's a very male female thing that I know. I have to work hard against. It's just my first instinct is to try to come up with a solution right. I understand that of course of the hard thing is for me too is that the really isn't a solution. I am on the Best Solution. I can be on right now and I'm doing that. There's so many unknowns. What the future holds. I don't know what the future holds exactly and I don't know if I'm GonNa have another one. I'm hopefully not but I could. And the more I talked to people the more it's like. Yeah you you could hopefully you all you could and then I have to walk through okay so if I do. What is that me you know? And then it's just a hole in so I can already. It's funny because even like knowing what you're looking for. Here's exactly where my immediately went to. Which is here's what I know about you and what you know about you you are. Ocd you're very obsessive. Compulsive Person Dr drew pointed out. You conceded that this your nature. It's your superpower. What makes you such a great worker in a great editor? Integrate everything but your obsessive compulsive person and I don't think you should research. I think that's your obsessive compulsive. I'll be quick to go. Stop reading the stuff. You have a doctor who you must trust. Who's in charge of this listen to the doctor? Don't obsessively research this that whole issue aside which I'm not dismissing or not taking serious it all is going to be processed by this human being you and let's get you to the best version of yourself process. Sure this I don't one hundred percent agree with the I mean I do. Think like googling is not helpful all the time but I do feel that this is now a condition I have and I do need to be educated on that. I need to know what it means. What the triggers are what I mean this is again this parallels but what we were talking about earlier like. I feel more in control when I know okay. I'm doing the right things to prevent something like this from happening. And if might still happen and that's fine but I I don't WanNa just be walking around blind like drinking a bottle of wine now. I know that's not a good idea. You know I think it's what you said is absolutely logical defendable winnable in a court case. But I'll point out when something's wrong with your car. Something's wrong with the steering. You take it to the mechanic. The mechanic says this and then you you allow them. You don't research your car for three hours on the Internet. You go all the mechanic knows and I trust him or her. And that's that and there's a million things like that that you don't research you just trust the professional and this thing even though you've got to the top one hundred neurologists in the world at your disposal you're still doing supplemental research which I would argue would be like you reading a ton about steering components. What are you gonNA learn mechanics overnight from? Google? Now sure you can read twenty articles that may make you feel like you have learned that but if you're dealing with to the best neurologists on the planet. I think you can leave it at that. Yeah personally to see what you're saying. Oh good thanks for hearing me. Yeah Anyway so subtle. Process it is. That's a scary as powerless. But I think you and I approve this what this whole episode was about which is the immense value. A French L. Man. Yeah yes then I think all of us have the capacity to really go in directions that until we say it out loud to someone we trust. Yeah you know it can all seem quite real. Yeah glad to be on this journey with you figuring this out. I'm glad to be a part of your life that feels stable and folks love.

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Sinestro vs Beta Ray Bill

#WhoWouldWin

58:07 min | 7 months ago

Sinestro vs Beta Ray Bill

"Finally arriving at Earth the Yellow Lantern Corps pause for a brief moment to take in the view scowling with furious intentions. The Mana pherson Astro surveys the skyline whatever? We can't take destroy. He sneered but it is then that alone figure drifted into view between the group and planet as the Equine Avenger known as Beta Ray. Bill stands in their way. I'm here for the red. One sensing the moment semester. Orders his troops to stand down and he grips his ring. Scans his opponent and prepares for the battle of both their lives. It's the orderly versus the worthy. It's yellow ring versus storm breaker at sit this Beta waybill today on another episode of who would win a show that completely ignores anything important happening in the world and instead focuses on a fictional battle between two characters from the worlds of comic SCI FI and fantasy. I'm your host James Gab Sie as always I'm joined by my co hosts raised Aquinas Ray. We've got another titanic battle hands with two characters that are in some way so different but in other ways very similar. How would you describe this fight? This fight I would describe it first off. It's very very difficult when I started. Researching more into sin- stroke and then more into Beta ray bill. I came to one honest conclusion. I have no idea how one of these two is going to beat the other one and I'm excited that I'm not the one who has to figure it out at the end of the day. You know it's funny. We were looking for opponents that kind of matched up well but were very very different. And I really can't think of two characters. That are more different than these to you know I love. I Love Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Dragon ball super etc. My favorite characters machida who radio REP very well may might I add? I like twice. I feel like each of these characters are on opposite sides of the Geeta Coin. One is evil but can kinda be good sometimes. The other one is good but doesn't really evil way. Yeah there's a real strong Yin and Yang between these two. They're both. They both have a very similar power set. At least you know basic powers go. Yeah one is. One is a really really sinister guy who's swings into anti hero territory. The other one is a very very vicious killer. Who's straight up a good guy at the end of the day? Who knows right and any no? You can't have this kind of battle with all of the psychological workings without bringing in a judge who can handle it and wrap their head around the enormity of what's about to happen so introducing for the first time on the WHO would wind show. It's Feodor Chin feodor. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you for having me at his a pleasure to be here. Well this is great you know. Feodor your. Imdb PROFILE. Reads like an insane list of accomplishments in films. Tv voice work. We all kind of knows but I just got to ask you. What would you say your best known for? I would say that Most people would know me as the voice of Yatta from the game. Overwatch Very Cool Ray. You've known you've been known to play a video game here and there yet right. How would you rate Theodore's Performance Oh my Gosh. Well let me tell you. If all the Pantheon of great voice actors in Video Games you know you have the Troy Baker. You can have the Nolan north. You can have the great female performance. The courtenay Taylor is of the world. I will take view. Chin every single day over all of them and that has almost zero to do with the fact that he's judging my fate today on this show as any nor I accept bribes of any kind but but flattery is always always appreciated. Very cool feodor. I've gotta ask you know. We talked before the show and I said Hey. How familiar are you with these two characters and you said you knew both of them inside out? You were Fans like every comic book ever with both in Astro and battery bill. In fact you actually said the opposite so how you to this battle. You know because you've got this great Geek culture background to you how would you how do you? How do you have never asked to judge this? How you come into this battle. What's your mindset coming in with these two characters that your powerful but maybe you're not one hundred percent familiar with well you know. I think I approach this. This battle. Just Do Life. I'm just I'm here to learn whatever you guys can Enlighten me and then and educate me with. I will use that information to the best my ability and hopefully sound judgment. Come to the the battle. You sound like you're GonNa make a sound judgment but we've heard that before so let's see. Let's see how this plays out. I do have one last question before we get on with it. You know so many people were trying to break into voice acting never mind you know And it's weird to say voice acting but as as acting what say if you could say. Hey I've got one big piece of advice for someone. Who's trying to break into the business? What would you tell that person? I'll give you a two and they're pretty quick. I ball if you can act you can voice act so I I think a lot of times people think oh I can do a just funny voices or this and that. That's certainly a part of it but if you know how to act that that'll help Tremendously So you know just any kind of acting classes or or community theater that sort of thing or your you know your high school drama class. That will certainly come in handy when it comes to breaking down like a script for a video game or animation or that sort of thing and secondly and is a little more tangible or practical dee Bradley Baker the the the the tremendous voice actor Bradley Baker has a wonderful website. I want to be a voice actor dot com and it is a treasure trove of information that I would highly recommend checking out. If you are all interested in you know Voice over your career. I love it is bad that we had Zeno Robinson on the show. Great voice actor as well. We asked the same question and he gave us the exact same good actor and we all talk. We talked about me. James Talk about this as well. Become a good actor. You will have the great potential to become a great voice. Actor sure cuts here. Well Yeah I mean you know it. Act Actor is part of You can't have voice actor without Actor I guess in outer I I love it okay. Excellent Advice And I have a funny feeling that you've had a lot of Acting preparation classes. And what have you because you're works fantastic and I think and that's not just me sucking up. Actually that's exactly what I'm doing right now. That's disgusting isn't it? I learned from the best rate. And what I'm trying to say is that it's great and I love the fact that you're you're telling her fans who want to become actors or specialized in voice acting. Hey you've got to put in the effort to do it right. There's no there's no magic shortcut I love really is not very cool all right so with that being said it is about that time. Ray Please do the honors and announced. Today's matchup representing the DC universe. The man who gets so mad. He's red in the face constantly. Sin- Astro and representing the Marvel Universe though worthy hero. Who's never just horsing around Beta Ray? Bill well done right now before we go any further. Let's go over the official rules of WHO would win. Match rule number one each debater will be able to make three points will number two. Who would match the random encounter a neutral location with neither combatant necessarily knowing anything about their opponent or having any times repair rule number three? The exact version of the character has to be specifically stated. Ray What version of SEMESTRAL WILL YOU BE USING BATTLE? You know I'm GonNa Change it up and use the comic book version of Sin Astro. Can I go with post crisis a little bit more modern but there is a ten semester was made in one thousand nine hundred sixty one. There's a lot of semestral to go around so just call it the comic book version. We'll go from there very cool. You know oddly enough. I think this time around. I'm actually going to also use the comic book version of the character in insane insane. I had to put a lot into it but I'll be using the current marble six one six universe version of Beta. Ray Bill Aright rule number four. The winner would win. Debate is whomever the judge decides has the best ability to incapacitate their opponent to the degree where they can safely walk away with no further threat being present this includes completely destroying their removing them from the field of battle. Restrain them or knocking. The mouth that who would win battles are not necessarily death. Matsch will number five. The judge can disallow veto appoint made by one of the debaters. They feel it goes outside of the scope of the battle or is irrelevant to the fight and rule number six eastern banner must use examples of powers. Abilities were weapons that are part of the specific continuity or at least was with that character for good deal of time went off examples of powers or billy's reasonably once in the history will not be allowed. Let's get to the tale of the tape of our combatants. Today's tale the tape is brought to you by. Who when t shirts except no mutations? Find the official who would win shirt on Amazon by typing in Hashtag. Who WOULD WIN rate? Please give us details on Sendero. Sin- stroh is a yellow lantern and arch enemy of HAL Jordan and Green Lantern Corps. He was created by John. Broome and Gil Kane. Both legends and first appeared in green lantern volume two number seven in nineteen sixty one semester oh was originally an anthropologist on a distant planet he was interested in theoretical people's lives but definitely not real people's lives witnessing a crash starship he went onto the scene where he saw dying green lantern who gave him his ring to handle an oncoming threat and then will him back to life afterwards sin- so dealt with all of the enemies that came before him and then left the man to die keeping the ring and its power for himself and not telling anybody that fact later he got outed from the Green Lantern Corps for being tyrant semester was banished to the anti matter universe where he eventually became the Super Villain. He is today fun fact. It takes a certain type of confidence to rock a thin moustache. These days and semestral is such a baller. But did you know that? His appearance mustache and all is based on David Niven from his role in the Pink Panther. It is true the look was outright lifted from the actor who famously got outsmarted by the hapless inspector clue in that movie thankfully if semester was the villain of that movie it assuredly would have gone a very different way and that is very cool and here the details for Beta ray bill. Now Bear Bill was created by Walter Simonson and first appeared in thor number three three seven back in November of nineteen eighty-three Beta rays bills raise. The corporate knights were almost rendered extinct when they're galaxy exploded due to the evil mega power. Demon Sir. The remnants of the corporate rates fled and a fleet of warships guarded by a living. Censorship called scuttle butterball things and also the dedicated champion. Beta ray bill via coordinate science bill was physically ignited and given the attributes of an indigenous wild beast a process actually killed all bills predecessors thors sent to intercept Scotto but as is about to enter the solar system and is attacked by the ship and Beta. Ray Bill as recognized as guardian magic of Thor as so much of that of the supernatural power of searcher during the battle. Thor is knocked unconscious. Baiter BILL IS SOMEHOW ABLE TO PICK UP DOORS. Hammer gains the power of thor underscoring that bill was worthy enough to live. You'll near Odin proposes a battle to the death between Thor and Beta ray bill in the fiery as guardian realm of Scott Heim. I'm trying to say all these words properly by the way so if I that's please excuse me last year for that. Thank you so. They fight in the realm scarred. Time to decide who will wield the hammer bill and door. Renner each other unconscious but bills resistance. A heat allows him to recover. I somehow and is deemed the winner but he also saves store from volume to lava leaving his to worthing opponent to die after bill reconsider his claim to thors Hammer. Odin orders the making of a new hammer for bill called storm breaker equal empowered mule near. Now here's an interesting fact about Beta ray bill. Did you know that Beta Ray? Bill was originally supposed to be called Beta Ray Jones. It's True Bay. Terrell bill came very close being called Jones however his name was changed something just as common sounding because there were already too many Jones's such as Jessica Jones Rick Jones and many others within the Marvel Comics Universe and now you have the facts about opponents field or do you have any questions before we get started Beta Ray. Bill is a Horse. Or that's a great question. Here's the deal it's it was. He was tried to be made as monstrous as possible. So I don't think they were necessarily trying to go for a horse looking creature. They actually were just trying to go for a monstrous looking creature. Step in right here. I can actually answer this question because I specifically looked this up because I asked that same question. And the answer is they wanted somebody who looked a little bit inhuman a little bit monstrous but still wanted them to look glorious in a certain way started with the look of a horse face and then sort of like tampered it down just a little bit to make it not quite so specifically Horsey but still retain an equity elements to audit built off of that right there. Okay okay. They wanted him to look kind of graceful and elegant. But also you know a monster who is clearly not human ray. Why don't you go ahead and give us your point number one about Cintra sitting Nastro. Let me tell you about this particular fellow. Because he is a yellow lantern effectively. He used to be a green lantern. And I'll get into a little bit more. The story about that later on. But he has all the powers of a green lantern character but he's like super evil and instead of being against fear he's with fear and four fear and causes fear and loves fear. Fear fear fear so being a green lantern type character he has the powers of energy projection as well as enhanced to super levels strength speed endurance durability and flight. That's kind of the basic stuff these days you know if you don't have every single one of those at least to a certain amount you're GONNA get trounced as long as you're fighting people. You know the of the Superhero caliber of people. But let's talk a little bit about some of the basic stuff that he's done with these powers because I'm not going to get into the ring just yet. I'm going to save that for point number two but with the strength and the speed and the endurance and etc. Green Arrow is known as a pretty strong character. I mean he's a upper street level mid level character in the DC universe while he was able to hit sedan stroke right through the middle of the chest with one of his arrows. That's a pretty big deal that would put down. Most people are literally just looked at him and was like. Oh that's all you have your an Arrow guy cool. It did no damage to 'em whatsoever and he was able to take out green Arrow with basically one shot. Additionally he fought a green lantern named Kyle Rayner and he tanked all this damage from him like he was coming down with a giant. Steamroller created a green lantern constructive. Steamroller rolled-over semester was hitting it. With every single thing he possibly could and stood over him. Like Ha I've literally. I've steamroller bodied you. I've got you in this battle. And suggest just stood up and he called me one shot with basically the back of his hand and he put down the Green Lantern In. Who would win battle would have been enough of a knockout to declare victory with one shot after taking a whole bunch of damage additionally he's able to create energy shields around him because he can kind of master of energy so he can kind of you know shoot energy if he would like to often imbues his punches with energy so you can kind of see a little bit like a yellow streak happening around his hands to enhance their strength because he hits real real hard and he also project energy shields so if something absolutely is coming at him like. I don't know a norse weapon of some kind equivalent to thors hammer. I don't know why bring that very specific thing in this battle. He can absolutely an energy shield which has been known to take on the tax of. Arby's shooting him throw up one of these energy shields and while yes he has to kind of focus on it for a sec to in order to float it and can then push forward with a little bit of work. It's not like anything's GONNA be cracking through that shield anytime soon. All that and more and there is plenty. More is my point number one okay. That was actually a good point number one. I think he did a great job of Kind of giving a baseline version of scenario. I think you're right if you find yourself in space. Eight don't have a equivalent to superman level based powers at least in some way shape or form. You should probably just go back home like immediately. Just go home. If you don't bring that to the plate you know in your up to bat is just not going to work well for you. So I'm glad you brought up the S. man. Because I wasn't going to say it but since you put it on the table I do semester when Superman as far as basic power set goes have a heck of a lot in common. That's interesting I'll actually talk more about that later. Because there are some comic books that show that that that that dynamic between the two is actually not really that close to being equal. But I'll get to that later question. We've got someone who's kind of based in high level energy but it's still scientifically based with the power ring and we have some who's got more of a I. Guess Supernatural. You Know Norris God like thing going on with his powers and Battery Bill. The question. I've got an ASI. I don't even know if there's an answer for this does magic trounce science or Science Trans Magic. It's weird you let James. We asked that question a lot on this show. And the answer is that's true. That's that's very well. Said in very articulate on your part Okay let me get to my point number one and then let's get the thoughts of the judge right after with Bater Bill. I've researched the character and I've loved the character for years. The cool thing about him. Is that Beta Ray. Bill is what she get. When you give master chief the powers of Thor and master chief you know of course is great character Ray lemass achieve now big fan mass as well you know. He's bad ass grown so we more as we learned before but he's bad as on his own but You know him the powers of war and this is now something different in all areas of strength and power for thor increase that to another slight level up. And that's which also you have in Beta ray bill. Okay so like door Barry. Bill is considered to be one of the most powerful beings in the marvel universe. He's got the strength and durability of Superman you know. He's definitely superman. Class is claimed that he possesses enough strength to crush entire moons with its this and a shadow entire planets with fours of his punches and blows he's capable of withstanding insane impact forces temperatures and pressure extreme surviving the heart of Sun without even slight discomfort and even survived the point blank. You know powerful energy blasts that were capable of destroying entire planets and he had no visible physical injury respect whatsoever. Yes super fast healing. You know to prevent healing factor. He's also virtually immortal. He's got superhuman stamina. This is really the interesting part because he has the stamina which can allow them to function. Full capacity for many days at a time without tiring at the very least in fact in hot climates. Evidently his stamina is limitless. Now keep in mind. That scenario has to recharge his ring. What every twenty four hours yourself. Because it's in the battery right in Depletes and energy every twenty hours. He's got recharge. It Beta rebuild doesn't have that limitation if you will but here's where things get even more interesting bay area. Bill was bio engineered into an enhanced. Cyborg with incredible fighting skills as well as given cognitive enhancements enabled to be like a tactical infighting genius. This is all on top of his desire to to fight and his love of fighting. Remember at the beginning episode. We said he's kind of this. You know crazed insane blood. Lusted character comes in a battle that I guess fights for good and fight for the oppressed which is kind of interesting. The difference here is that scenario wants power more than anything whereas Beta. Ray Bill wants to fight and destroy would be conquerors who are out to like conquered the innocent. Why because he's literally designed to be the protector of his people and other people who are innocent and caught in your battle in the end against nationals fighting for power whereas Betari Bill will be fighting to keep his people and everyone else free from the tyranny of Sin Cicero. That's my point number one and there's a lot of good stuff right here. Look we're starting off at a very baseline point when I first started looking into both these characters on a deeper level. The thing that really shocked me was I really believe their strength is probably about the same endurance durability probably about the same like if we talk about just the baseline mechanics of both of these characters. Boy they sure seemed pretty even across the board. Maybe with one exception which I'll get into a little bit later on all what do you think a point number one. Do you have any thoughts questions for the rare myself? I gotta say that Those were both very compelling arguments and Frankly Yeah it's Kinda Kinda difficult at this point to To to see What the possible outcome might be. But definitely I'm curious to hear the to hear more I like your approach. Let's take your your your saying was taken some more before. I revealed anything about what I'm thinking in terms of. You know WHO's ahead? Correct leanings to myself at this point very cool. All right ray you start off strong point number one. Hit us with your point number two now point number two. We've already talked about what kind of a supreme being right out. The gate that semester wiz. Let's talk about what that yellow ring of power does because starting off. He used to be a green lantern. He was actually known as the best green lantern. Now maybe it's because they didn't know everything about him in the way he conducted his business. We'll talk a little bit later. But he has all the powers and knowledge is of known as the Best Green Lantern. Cool so when he ends up getting a betrayed. I'll say by HAL Jordan the green lantern and he gets banished to another world he forms this power of the yellow ring which is essentially equal to the green power ring in every single way except that it's powered by fear as opposed to powered by willpower as opposed to powered by lack of fear as what the green lanterns are really really not for. Now what does all this mean? Well it means that he has a whole bunch of extra powers on top of the basic stuff that you would come to expect. And that's why we've seen examples where he is absolutely phase through walls. He sat there had a conversation. He said okay. I'm done now and he's just went up through the ceiling without damaging the ceiling. He just so he actually got the power to be intangible so any kind of physical attack that Beta Ray. Bill might be bringing to the table even if he ends up landing with it. There's a real chance that he can just go intangible. And not even feel it for as long as he wants to additionally he's flown through entire star ships and just smashed them effortlessly like he was going through a stroll in the park. It's like an crash through this one cool crash through this one cool and he took out an entire fleet this way in one of his comic books. Additionally he defeated how Jordan the Green Lantern. One of the most powerful characters in the entire. Dc Universe and his arch-enemy might I point out and he was able to get the him possessed by the Pera lacks demon. And that's what kind of setup this entire green lantern peril storyline which we can talk about another time. The biggest thing that I would also talk about is. He's got a fantastic willpower. Probably the one of the Best Willpower Him and Hal Jordan. Probably one to and who knows which way it is maybe more like one in one a so when it comes down to needing to dig deep and not give up and do the thing. He was the best green lantern who thrive on willpower. That means that he has the guts he has the temerity. He has the strength. Inner side in order to get this done. But let's talk mostly about what green lanterns are known for and what he also does with impunity. And that's create constructs now the constructs of the green lantern and we can say his construct are equal to green lantern constructs. That sort of the whole deal. And we've seen Green Lantern Constructs wrap around the earth. While Superman pulled the earth into a different orbit. It has the strength to hold the earth so I have to believe a construct would have the strength to hold a battery bill if we're going to go that route and so we've seen him when he fights he doesn't just like punch and kick like a normal person probably would with the exception of when he wants to backhand somebody into oblivion and. I watched him backhand to knock out five or six different superheroes. While I was going through this it seems to be a very common. Finishing tactic of him to backhanded slap will stay the person in front of him to the point of unconsciousness. Now what does that also mean? It also means that whatever weapons he needs for a current situation he can create because he's also very very creative so I've seen him create all manner of crazy things and all manner of crazy weapons and it seems like panel by panel. He's wielding a different weapon. So he's constantly adapting his battle strategy on the fly to deal with the weapons and the talents of the person that he is fighting so he's fought with like a trident in one scene and then you turn around and now it's like a giant sword and then you turn it around again and it's a giant jackhammer pounding down on the person now that he's not them down with the power of a Jackhammer but a real real problem for one right earth shattering kind of power. He just does this all the time. So if he's GonNa fight a Beta ray bill character. Who's rocking singular weapon? He's rocking his one powerful weapon. Don't get me wrong. But he's only got one form of attack that he's really going to be able to take in this battle and sinister is going to be able to identify it. He's GonNa have. He's been pleased. What people like Beta ray bill before faulk fighting styles like Beta ray bill before he knows what he needs to do? In order to change the battlefield change his own weapons up to get this victory and that is my point number two. That's a strong point. Okay I got to ask a question again disagree with a lot of what you're saying but I do have a question. Have scenarios contracts ever been broken by Superman level character before I would say that I think every single green lantern yellow lantern? What have you has been broken by mid Lobos Broken Hal Jordan stuff before so I have to say right now. That stuff can be broken. It takes a heck of a lot though right. It's easy I agree with that. It's like it's natural uses his willpower which is really formidable right and almost almost superhuman. I would like to say and puts a supernatural character into a construct. That's not an easy thing to get out of. But Superman level characters have gotten out of those contracts before with extreme effort. So it's not like hey also that level of character has not gotten out of those contracts before as well. Let's just put that on the record. Sure but it takes a but it's not like it's absolute. It's not like an adamantine been broken. I guess in comic books. There's no absolutes correct. There's no ads no absolutes of alcohol. I think we're on the same page. Okay I like your point number two. I think there are a couple of brilliant. It was it was okay on a scale of one to ten. It was it was a it was a a seven. Could be that it was a strong race to Kane seven which is a James Bond points in this competition. We maybe let me get to my point. Number two Let's talk about you brought storm breaker and you know the other abilities storm. Breaker Enables Beta. Ray Bill the having bat and battle so Beta Ray. Bill's hammer again. Notice from breaker is just as Gerbils thors hammer mule near but it also has medicinal powerful abilities. For example store breaker is also able to create powerful force fields that can block super powerful attacks. That are powerful enough to destroy planets. Storm breaker can absorb incredible amounts of power in either redirected as as an energy attack Against his opponent or added to its own level of energy blasts now against planet size opponents store breaker was able to literally pull out their energy in absorb it as its own Against a herald of Galactic who's also very powerful than viewed with like the Cosmic Energy of the Marvel Universe Beta. Ray Bill was also able to pull that power out and use that as well and weaken the Herald of gladys which is really cool because in a marvel DC. Crossover that happened. I think in the nineteen nineties. The silver surfer took on Kyle Rayner The Colorado Green Lantern and beat him very quickly. So my point is why couldn't Beta? Ray Bill do the same thing against the nationals yellow ring and just pull out that that you know Yellow Entry Energy. It's a possibility Because he's done it gets very powerful opponents who are super super powerful. By the way bill can oval open portals. He does by rapidly Spain's hammer and using the portals to tell either himself or others anywhere in the universe were into other dimensions. He can also open warp tunnels or wormholes to travel between two points near instantly just as we able to teleported from Asgard from earthen to other dimensions as well but it gets crazier. Bater was able to teleport again. This gets really crazy. A black hole that was threatening billions of lives any teleport. The black hole is such a remote place in the universe that there was no matter for it to absorb within a million light years in any direction. But there's more when fighting ego the Living Planet Beta Ray Bill. Teleport's away just for a moment and teleport back with a giant asteroid until wishy then throws and then crashes into and hurts ego the living planet storm breakers in other words he can weaponize teleportation storm breaker can also. Beta real bill even faster than is already very powerful healing factor the hammer concrete storms and lightning manipulate weather. Somehow even in space and this goes back to this. How does magic deal with science? I guess this way he can weaponize lightning directed as an attack. Anyway he wants whether on earth in the atmosphere planet space as well he can conjure the fire of. I'M GONNA try to say this properly. Multiple Heim and these are flames. That burn super hot for thousands of years and can somehow burn even in space on top of all that storm breaker needles. Beta. Ray Bill. The travel at the speed of light and gives super speed to. Beta ray bill himself which is another reason his fighting ability so high. But what's amazing about all of this? Is that battery bill again? Is a master weaponized weaponising? All these abilities together remember. He's an alien version of master chief. Who happens to have the worst powers? Abilities and weapons of Beta a bill designed decides to teleport's natural through a warm wall millions of light years away onto another dimension for that matter and have planted destroying bolts of lightning waiting for natural. Abby tells us that location that wouldn't be a problem at all. He's done it before. The great thing about being rebuilt hammer and the power possesses is that he may be able to beat scenario without having to lay a finger on him whatsoever. That is my point number two and I had a feeling you were gonNA come with that point now. I was honestly expecting you to go with the portals in point number three because that's what I would do which makes me both excited and terrified for what you have coming. You should be worried about your point number. Three just to be real frank about that. The thing about his portal's though he doesn't just kind of wave his hammer at you and you disappear. He actually has to create a physical portal. And then you have to go through it so he creates the portal by spinning his Hammer. Real REAL FAST. Which does take some prep time spent in? Its immediately portal. He I've seen I've seen these panels and it takes them a little while to get up to speed in order to create the portal but then the person typically has to willingly go through it or be an inanimate object that has no say in the matter because he has to kind of maintain the speed of it to keep the portal going so the idea that he would use the portal to sin- Stroh and send sin- Stroh a million light years away thus battlefield removal. I think is very very unlikely. Only because he'd have to keep the spinning with one hand and then somehow grab out to a already fighting semester and toss him in the portal. While that's happening I think that's a big ask at least of character and all the things that he brings to the table I will. I will agree. Yeah sorry go ahead please finish. I actually had a point to to your point number one. I just wanted to come back on because I don't have the place for to my point number three and this is the dumping ground for my loose thoughts about the battery of the Yellow Ring. And it's every twenty four hours it needs to be replenished first off. I don't think this battle going twenty four straight hours. I think it's going to have to have an end before that. I give it an hour and a half at the longest. I feel somebody's GonNa get over at some point but one thing is Semestral can actually call batteries to him so even if his ring is very depleted he's shown the ability in comics to just get another battery whenever basically he needs to. So I think the battery point. He's not gonNA energy. Don't worry about that I will okay. Let's talk about the battery. The battery be called. And he's he's clever enough. Like battle savvy enough to figure out how to create a distraction. Give himself enough time. Call a new battery. I do agree with that. What I don't agree with is that he's going to be taking damage. Just as Beta ray bill. Well don't get me wrong but I do. Think the crazies stamina that authorities like creature has. Who's God Liking? Can fight for days on end at top levels. May Out do that. But that's up to question is a good battle. We're at the turning point Theodore. This is where you've heard arguments so far from both sides you've got to figure out which side is ahead. And what did the other character to do to pull out a win Oh Gosh Oh gosh nicer I'd have to say at this point I'm gonNA put Sinistra slightly ahead interesting. Yes but what's the talking point that's causing you to say semester slightly ahead? Let's see that that He he was the best of the green lanterns. You say and he had the the this this willpower. That rivaled Hal Jordan's and to me that. Yeah that just have and. I certainly understand that. A Beta Ray. Bill also has the powerful drive himself but for some reason. I feel like that that willpower in addition to the ring because of the slight edge right now interesting. That's that is a good point. That is a good point. Okay Okay Ray. This is good. I like it okay. Normally all right now. How close this battle is for the people at home that complain that it's always a tie at the turning point there you go jerks. That's a really playing well to our audience in helping build community For the eighty five percent know who they are and they know my feelings on them. Why don't you guys go ahead and suggests Batman versus Superman again on the forums? Knobs ray go ahead with your absolute ultimate point number three please point number three. I just want to walk down the story of semester. And where he's coming from and why he is going to win this battle so we've already talked about. How semester was kicked out of the Green Lanterns. Right so what ended up happening was when he first arrived at the spaceship in the green lantern sort of gave him the ring. He was being attacked by characters from the antimatter. Dimension basically just another plane of existence near as I could tell and he was able to defeat them cool awesome so when he ends up taking over the power of the green lantern he took over his entire sector and kind of pushed them together in one planet and ruled over them with an iron fist. Saying this is the only way I can keep you safe is if you're all huddled together and not moving. Basically people didn't like that very much. And so what how? Jordan came to deal with helping with the problem he said. Oh this is horrifying the other green lanterns need to know and they did and they kicked him out. They sent him and banished him to this anti matter universe now where semester was so smart and where he is so brilliant and what's GonNa put him over. The top is the fact that he remembered that the guy he fought in that original battle was from the Anti Matter Universe known as the court so he seeks out the Hanes Planet Accordions crew and he essentially embedded himself in there. And I don't know if you took them over but they ended up building him a yellow ring. They were so impressed by his abilities. And he was able to get his way out of that dimension. So again I off. James says I'll put in a different dimension that's fine. He gets out of different dimensions. All the freaking time but that just shows intelligence and his savvy you put him in a very very bad situation and he will think of a way to get around it. Just based on knowledge experience and just plain smarts. Now what does all this being here? It means that Beta ray bill while very individual strong. He's got he's got that wicked storm breaker fantastic. He's not necessarily a genius. Genius level intellect. I'm not saying a dumb character. He is definitely not. I would argue. That semester was two notches higher on the smart scale. So when you have to forces one that is a little bit more straightforward and is not necessarily as SMART. And then you have one. That's much more wild and varied and tactical and has a higher intelligence to boot. You've got to see how the more intelligent guy with more angles of attack has a very good chance against the more steady one weapon opponent talking about some of the other ways. That scenario can get this thing done. He's been known to wipe people's minds. Hey that's a pretty good deal. He's been able to control minds before he's been able to wipe them and make people forget things and who's to say if he couldn't pull something off against a Beta ray bill type character not just that he also has the power to teleport and unlike Beta ray bill who has to spin his hammer and then kind of grab you by the scruff of the neck and throw you in the portal stroke can just essentially look at you touch you and then teleport you far far far away now while teleporting bay bill far far far away probably will not win him this battle. What if I will posit? What IF BETA RAY BILL THROWS STORM BREAKER? At Sin- stroh semester was able to block it or at least deflect it with his energy shields at which point he reaches out and teleport's the hammer to a very very very far point away. Okay he's a genius guy. He'd figure this out real real quick without his Hammer Beta. Ray Bill's in trouble. Because if I remember my th ornithology correctly and James you can sort me on this. If they're not touching their hammer within a certain period of time they revert back into a regular person who doesn't have all the store like ability if he's able to get rid of the hammer using teleport which I absolutely believe he could and would do he will one hundred percent win this battle. One last thing to mention is a big loss. That Beta Ray. Bill had because Beta Ray. Bill lost his weapon storm breaker. You notice a theme with this point. He lost his weapon when he got taken in by the scrolls and so he ended up with milner with the Thor Hammer and he ended up fighting a character. Known as the Super Scroll who came back from the scroll world with storm breaker so essentially he's fighting against his own weapon and the Super Scroll who's powerful character but not I wouldn't even put on Nesta's level to be quite honest with you with storm breaker. The Super Scroll defeated Beta ray bill and mule near so. It's not like he was unarmed. He had the great. Thor weapon fighting in this battle. He got beat by that. And WHO's to say? Deep down at the end of the day is not creative enough to create his own construct of his own version of storm. Breaker we've already seen Beta. Ray Bill lose to that. That's my point number. Three interesting Interesting so you're saying Beta Ray. Bill got captured. By the entire. Scroll Empire and then as he's trying to escape. If I'm not mistaken he gets taken down by the super eight by the way was not minted. Super Scroll not the regular super scrawl the FEODOR. This is how nerdy we are with this. Not The original super scrawl that was taking on the fantastic four. That had all the fantastic four's powers correct mothers my understanding correct right okay. So you're fighting tire. That happens throws level. Okay so here's the deal first of all battery bills programming and kind of because he's bioengineered you'll before he even picks up a thors hammer into the door version battery bill. His mind's got programming that really shield until Pathak attacks number two you know. How long did it take for scenario to manipulate the Q? Wardens to get a ring and then to escape? Was it like talking like you know ten minutes twenty minutes half an hour? Half a day did that. I mean it wasn't that universe for a little while I wasn't a part of me but he is a master schemer and manipulator and gets people to his line of thinking that's why I don't think in a heartbeat. He's going to convince Beta. Ray Bill to join his side of far from it. There's zero percent chance of that ever happening but as far as battlefield tactics go. This is a creative guy. And just showing the smarts of how he can take a bad situation and make it into his own and then thrive from it. That's what does right. So in other words it takes like for a scheme and I will give you that. He's a brilliant schemer right genius level. Schemer but a scheme takes time to unfold. And we're talking about a random encounter unexpected techno prep time and all of a sudden. He's taking on. This insanely powered opponent is also an expert fighter by the way one little thing. He's actually a tactical genius again. Thanks to the bioengineering he had. It was part Cyborg. Oddly enough before he even became the major version of Beta. Ray Bill by the way one last thing. I'm wondering if the Yellow Lantern Ring has a weakness. What do you think it's the L. Ever weakness? I mean not particularly. I mean you might argue in your point number three. And we'll see that a person who cannot feel fear would not would be kind of immune to it. But his wins against Hal Jordan and the other green lanterns of the crew often fighting many of them simultaneously. Show that maybe not to be such a weakness after all. That's correct ray. There is a weakness. The Yellow Lantern Ring actually has a weakness against hope. And this is this weird thing so you know probably about ten years ago. Whatever before the new fifty two all the sudden there there were written into storylines. You know there were the green lanterns yellow lanterns than there is an orange lantern. And then there were red lanterns and blue lanterns. Purple answers even White Landry got kind of and then black man it'd be it became Othello Anyway. What had happened planted up in there a little bit. Yeah and then. All of a sudden they realized that certain rings had deficiencies and were and were weaker around. Not just other rings. But what the rings represented the Yellow Lantern Rings were weaker and actually became less powerful very very quickly like decrease in power almost like a Kryptonite kind of thing happening when there were someone with hope especially hope of victory. Like just unpack unwavering. Hope desire to win. And that's something that Beta Ray. Bill has in his not by the way. Just a if you have a blue lantern ring is if you possess that emotional contents your character. All the green lantern you'll enter rings are if I'm not mistaken. There emotionally based right. That's kind of their big thing. Someone fights with superhuman hope to to win the battle which is what Beta Ray. Bill has in abundance. That is a proven thing that weakens yellow lantern rings. Oddly enough. Yeah I know you're thinking yes I have kissed her girl with everything I just said there you go let me just add to that though because you know one thing that almost every single superhero has an abundance is hope. It's sort of a baseline trait of like every single superhero ever sinister has beaten a heck of a lot of superheroes so to argue this very very left field argument of boy he just wishes on a star and calls tinkerbell boy. Maybe you'll have a chance. Mr. I'm just not buying it but James that was an excellent attempts point number. I wonder if I have anything to back this up in my ultimate point number three. Let's see if I do. Okay now my point number three. I've got three points to it. Actually the first part one talked about his worthiness now until we saw avengers endgame were caps. American icon. Goma Captain Erica. America picks up Mule near Zabel the use. It called enlightening all that kind of good stuff. I did some checking in a turns out the very first non Norse based as guardian character other than Odin and thor to pick up. You'll near was actually a Beta Ray. Bill this is back in nineteen eighty three. This was huge wi because you had to be worthy of the power of floor to pick up y'all near that worthiness was such an iconic thing that they you know. There was issues of the whole trying to pick it up. Couldn't do it. Capped America tried nothing in fact. Even the Marvel DC Crossover Event Superman. You know the only he's able to pick it up is because and took off that enchantment but the moment he got put back on. Superman couldn't even pick it up either. So he is be on you and we're talking about having willpower which he does that. Worthiness is Super Human as well within BETA. Ray Bill those fighting qualities all that you know nobility whatever you have it. That's all existing with Beta rebuilt. Now let's put something on the table here soon. As Roma's greatest powerful will still lose against Superman. And that's nothing to be ashamed of BUT SNEAK. Knowledged accepted fact in the comic world world even in the invincible. Comic Book Line is clear. Where scenario is less than superman by the fact that he is actually subservient to Superman which is really really weird. So follow my logic per second Beta Ray. Bill has wins over insanely powerful opponents. He's beating the hulk. He's got several victories. Absolute conclusive victories over thor. He's got a very impressive list of victory over collective level opponents. He's beaten ego the living planet. Who's superpower will because amongst other things you guessed it. He's a size but planet has energy attacks that our planet he's got a win over an opponent that is beyond anything so natural has faced and that's galactic so theodore are familiar. Are you with gladness slightly Yeah OKAY THE DEVOUR OF WORLD. So there you go. That's right that's right. He's he's a galactic threat. The scrolls couldn't even like really figure out a way to take him down so they actually just fled when the plant was being destroyed. And that's why they travel around the universe now doing what they do you know. Was that being that survived the Big Bang. And now you're right feeds on planets and to make things even more interesting. There's never marvel in DC crossover event. Where Superman fantastic four. We're kinda teaming up to end. Galactic comes down to Earth Galactic easily overcome Superman's power and transforms them into one of his herald. Does he mind at that? Point Herald is super powerful and goes around the universe trying to find planets for blacks to feed on so one point one Beta Ray. Bill finds himself facing off against GALACTICA GALACTICA tax. And Somehow Beta. Ray Bill gets knocked down. Then just keep standing up and redoubling efforts. 'cause you know he's got hope and he's got will and all that kind of good stuff to finally Beta Ray. Bill shoots a super powerful blasts of Mystical Energy Galactic that cracks his armor right which is kind of crazy galactic and this is really weird but unbelievably gets scared. And calls his herald someone who is imbued with again cosmic energy and Herald is called Stardust. Who is super powerful and he calls on. Stardust TO GET BETA. Ray Bill away from him so after getting punched by surprise through planet by Stardust Beta. Ray Bill Grabs Stardust. Powell drives her into another planet from Space and beats our unconscious. He then destroys the planet. He's standing on and then tells galactic that you know I'm GonNa keep fighting you and no matter how long it takes. I'm win by either destroying you or I'll destroy every planet in order to make you starve and then glasses like this is not cool and backs off and leaves leaves area. That's an official win for Beta ray bill against galactic so battery. Bill has a win over. One was powerful beings in tire marvel universe. But that's not the best thing about Beta ray bill. See there's one more thing that many people don't know about this character is that he limits his true power even against Galactic. He was not necessarily holding back but kind of not revealing his troop hair. Power scares and sounds okay. So I mentioned Beta Ray. Bill's a Cyborg and as a Cyborg he has these things put into medical power limiters within a system that keeps his energy in systems in check in times of dire need he can. I guess what's called decouple? These limiters and in fact they ghastly boost his power that happens more than doubling it and this happens when he's in Beta ray bill form. Not just you know. His regular Cyborg form so what happens to scenario we face off against someone who is more powerful than for a better fighter than Thorne who possesses a weapon that can create force fields and wore black holes across the galaxy can weaponize wormholes while trading fours fields and fire blasts of energy. That can destroy multiple plans time and who was also beaten gladys and then on top of all that can literally double his power when he takes off the power limiters. So when you add all that together is pretty easy to see. Why Beta Ray? Bill beat semestral. That's my point number three and there's a lot to take in there and I think there was a lot of over Over simplification of quite a few things that had to talk very very hungry individual. He was wanting to eat. And so what I'm saying feodor is if you were a very very powerful character. Who was very very hungry. Maybe feel a little down and there was a sandwich in front of you and then the guy comes over and he destroys the Sandwich and says I'm going to destroy every single sandwich in front of you unless you back down. Now you're very very hungry. You will go and you'll find a sandwich somewhere else because you just don't want to deal with that when you're angry. No you're not at your best. We've seen snickers commercials to know that you are not at your best when you are hungry so I call that a half victory at best James. We're doing do you WANNA sandwiches one masking. I'm really hungry right now. My point is that Beta ray bill. Look he's very very strong. He's very very tough. He's very very durable but we have seen where he's lost his best weapon before and kind of the way that he does all the stuff okay if he loses access to his weapon and already outlined before that semestral can teleport that weapon away far far away at least more than two minutes away depending how far flung in the universe he wants to put it and that weapon is not going to make a portal itself. It Needs Beta. Ray Bill in order to do it so also. Nestor has to do is understand. And I think he will quickly through some initial kind of sparring initial kind of like back and forth as they both sort of like feel out the other. You know the opening round of a boxing match basically I honestly believe in Q. In on the fact that that hammer that weapon is really the source of all of his power and as soon as he can disarm him of it this battles going to go very very quickly and sinister being much more a smart much more. Combat Savvy and much more creative fighter will find a way to pull this off. I think ready for a verdict. Well hold on. So you're saying Gee I just WANNA make sure I understand this. You're saying that that scenario has one way of winning which is teleporting the storm breaker away which is not a bad way of winning. By the way it's kind of a smart strategy teleporting storm breaker away from where the field of battle right and therefore you know I'd say as many ways to get victory I think he can also create a construct strong enough to hold Beta. Ray Bill in place for a certain period of time. I just think that the most easy way that he finds victory is that way but as I said before. I'm ready for a verdict. I just WanNa make sure that feodor understands that you've got a one really great way and Beta Ray. Bill has eight ways of taking out scenario including hope which powers of the lantern. Anyway I agree with you. It's that time we have to come to my little pony ability. Please I am ready for a verdict. And he's hungry lesson. I keep from that sandwich. Do you know what you've heard both sides. You've heard great points from bogus you you've got to give us your process. Tell us who you think won this battle. And how did they win? Oh Gosh well certainly. Very compelling very persuasive arguments on both sides I have no doubt that in any scenario this would be a knockdown drag out no-holds-barred fight to the finish. I am going to have to say that. Initially Scenario Doodoo as cunning and his savvy and and and his pure evil I guess Had the upper hand but ultimately just like Sean Penn as Harvey. Milk said in the movie milk. You gotta give them hope and I think it was. It was that hope which which D. powers the yellow lantern that ultimately turned the tide and gave Beta. Ray Bill The win unbelievable unbelievable Ray Ray robot. How could he even have hope? What are we even talking about right? Now let's hope they just are. I'm thinking of Big Yard. What are we talking about radar? You're thinking triple decker sandwich. Maybe like he can Po Possibly Yeah it's Maybe meatballs in there may be this epic battle between a genius mastermind with proven multiple strategies. Victory Loses to a care bear ability. No that's real smart. That's real smart of you. By the way I gotTa get you. GotTa Give Them Hope You. GotTa give them hope. And and you know a would be conqueror. What does it would be conquer? WanNa take away from population that that or he is trying to conquer. He wants to take away. Hope and Beta. Ray Bill is someone who frees up populations of people from tyrants by instilling. Hope it himself in those of others. It does sound like a care bear. Say it like that. And that's GonNa make that's GonNa make that worse for you and that makes me feel better. Noxious decisions I think. I've heard of Hillary. I heard a heck of a lot of fear and who has causes everybody around him to be afraid now. I'm not trying to say that he's going to strike fear in the hearts of a robot because a robot not only can not feel fear. It also can't feel ray seems to be okay with this decision and I am too does it. Does this make you with Res Reaction and I can understand why he's upset because this was a really tough battle and as I was measuring on both sides I was thinking like there's so Nastro really passing. Character has a lot of ways to beat almost any character in the universe. I think didn't wants to reset the universe somehow in the DC universe I mean. That's that's where he aims aims. That hi I'm GONNA RESET THE UNIVERSE. Go BACK IN TIME. Renegotiate everything and reform the universe in my own vision. Datu ask in a very positive way. He's doing it for your benefit because he's a benevolent sole who rules through fear and should have won this battle whitworth scenario if he goes back in time natural meets me. And you okay Ray. And he dismisses you and keeps talking with me as obviously that would happen any goes as I'm going to go back in time. I'm going to reset the universe and I say to him cool. Will I still be alive in the new universe? And he's like yeah probably not but it's better for would you want that for yourself and for me right. Wait what I want for you. I mean I'm fine with it. I'll find a way okay. Gotcha Okay Cool Theodore. You were fantastic as a judge. Great Job I hope you had a great time and I am know despite what race identity want you back on the show in the near future? I hope he had a great time. Tell us where can people find you and your work and everything that you do. You can find me online at Feodor Chin Dot Com and you can follow me on twitter or Instagram at at Feo Chin H. I. N. Very Cool Ray. Please tell our listeners where they can find you. Will you can find me playing bastion in every overwatch game from this always use that to add hurts that is oh goodness rain. Hashtag Ray was robbed because let's face facts. You guys these. I can't believe we keep getting on these judges folks at home you've heard both arguments you've heard by brilliance you've heard James farting out of his mouth and yet here. We are again with an impossible decision. Made by one of our judges your as angry as I am. Hit US up on twitter at who had wind show. Almighty Ray Hashtag Ray was robbed. Hashtag raise right. I'm discussing Hashtag. Get him a sandwich and you could find me. Posing my had question of the day on twitter at James Gad's remember to join the official who had when facebook group to make a suggestion for a match for the show and be part of a growing community. You can also find us on instagram at who wins show and check out the WHO website at www dot who had wind show dot com to access all of our podcast episode on behalf of Myself Race. Aquinas in the restroom as thank you. Thank you once again for listening to another episode of Blue. Would win. 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Betas: A Winning Product Launch Strategy by Mixpanel PM

The Product Podcast

19:34 min | 1 year ago

Betas: A Winning Product Launch Strategy by Mixpanel PM

"Welcome to the product podcast brought to you by product school the podcast where you get fresh insight from leaders talk tech companies and startups. I remember you can learn product management in person at our fifteen campuses worldwide or study with US online visit product school dot Com to learn more or about our courses you can also hang out with the leaders from these podcasts at our hundreds of annual events and catch us at product cons the world's largest condemn conference that takes place every year across the United States and in London Hi everyone. My name is patchy first of all. It's an absolute pleasure pleasure and honor to be here so I WANNA time product gone product school for giving me and expanded opportunity. You'RE GONNA get up. You're on the stage and address all of you. I am going to be here speaking today about Betas essentially what they mean. How do you go about setting them up. How do you leverage them. Primarily to launch kill products a little bit about myself so you you know more about who I am like most beyond say. I am not an accident product manager. I went to Carnegie Mellon in two thousand nine to get my masters and become a software engineer only to realize that I need a far better P._M. Although although we didn't have as many P._M.'s by benefit remember that right so I don't know that technology analyst back in two thousand eleven with blackrock that I was working closely with engineering outing in business teams there to crack down on the requirements on their trading platform from there on move to consumer lending startup called lined up there. I was completely stoked about disrupting the payday eighty lending industry and now I am product manager at mix panel on their data governance team anyone who are not familiar with what next panelist we are a a user behavioral tracking. Dole and governance is essentially the management of data out so usability integrity security of data all that good stuff enough about myself so I want to kick off this discussion by talking a little bit about what what's really important for PM's or should they be focused on and while I'm on that topic. I loved to read out Amazon Customer Obsession principal leaders. I start with the customer and were backwards. They will vigorously to keep customer. Trust although leaders pay attention to competitors the obsess over customers and this is so true V._M.'s leaders and it's it's important. It's almost necessary that we obsessed with our customers or a so. What should a good P._m. Or what do they basically create opportunities. That's all customer problems and the key see your lies in finding critical and important problems that he creates value not just for your customer but also for Your Business and from there it's really figuring out what's the minimum viable product that you can get in front of your customers and see their validation and then this almost becomes a like a reputable loop so you continue to collect data from customers here about the feedback that they are telling you and then just take action on that feedback so how would go about finding these opportunities there you find these customer problems admixed panel through a couple of things most importantly we use mix panel to see how our customers are using mix panels so that's the data aspect of it primarily the quantitative feedback. If I make also we also look at product gaps in salesforce so this is what I would do. Market teams are logging logging in salesforce as gaps things that our customers are telling us they believe mix panel can offer more than the product in addition to what we are already doing having and said that the most important thing we believe in doing is talking to our customers because no amount of tooling can replace a real conversation that you can have your customer. How do you even saw these customer problems and the key allies in launching great products and I would like to double stress on the word launcher because I cannot cannot be. It's really important to have a really good launch process when you're going to market to solve critical customer problems and while we're on the topic of flawless launches there's a recent flawless launch that I'd like to call out and that's the spacex they recently managed managed to land all their Falcon heavy rocket boosters and then anyone that's following the story has been following the story would know that pattern comes to them in in fact it took quite a few unsuccessful attempts before they manage to stick all the three landings so job spacex in most most cases however a Beta mates complete sense so what's the idea of doing a Beta which is essentially a product that is known gaps in bugs and getting that in front of a customer like what's the point of having a customer testing your product and reporting you brought to you doesn't sound great. Let's set the record straight. Betas are absolutely about user testing but don't get me wrong ooh. I don't mean that you want your customers to Q._A. Product this is purely for you to seek validation from your customers and have them that you that you're on the right but that's all that you're with a Beta should be and the good thing about Betas customers can always opt out if they don't have the time or they don't commit to giving you feedback which is completely fine but I didn't why this is important is truly establishes that direct channel of feedback your customers feel good and and they love their day can actually actually have a seat at the table and they can influence roadmap or how product ships so. Who are these Beta testers. I who are the customers that are going to be okay to participate and give you feedback well. Obviously they're going to be probably the doctors of your product. The whales sales the power users. These are going to be the people that are going to want to give you feedback. How do you go about finding these people. <hes> one thing that you could do is just announced that a Beta was coming and offer limited seats and then have this customer self nominate one another thing that begins panel of seeing you do on the side is we are always looking to build a pool of power users as potential. Beta testers and then you reach out to them when you're ready to launch a product and why you do that which is why you're building. The school always make sure that you're covering being every segment of customer so in our case the process software so anytime we are launching a Beta. We want to make sure we get feedback from. I'm a free customers from anyone. That's representing commotion. Small medium sized businesses on enterprise customers so that ways you know that you're getting feedback from from a white spectrum alright so we are all convinced now hopefully that. Betas are important. It's necessary that gear customers give you some feedback. That's all agree but you're going to tell me that's great. I cannot get my customers to commit to <music> are investing abroad through what should at least what I have seen and what most great pm's of told me if you've been listening to your customers. It's all true and you are creating something. That's going to add value for them. They will be more than happy to test and like I said they're always customer's always excited when they know they get early access to features and most importantly that they get to shape the brought up and influence roadmaps of customers are always always always happy to give feedback at least from what I've seen you do definitely tank them as a gesture for providing feedback so some things that that I've seen again that makes panel V._R. subscription-based brought up. Sometimes you do additional add ons and you give customers these add-ons techno costume to lend next renewal as a gesture towards helping us give feedback and making product a little. What about how we run? Betas at makes panel. We have customer success managers. We have relationship managers. We have account executives and all these people are on the road talking talking very very frequently do customers so they help us nominate these customers towards Beta. They're also because they are talking very often to these. He's customers. They know what are some of the products that would be interesting so bay cutting the major lord of setting up. These customers should be like I said product managers are also always building a pool so we look at what customers are telling us in salesforce product gaps the also look at our expand will community forum to see what our customers are asking for there and you just do outreach from there again. I cannot stress how important the Betas have been so far not just to close deals but essentially to establish that relationship with customers and to let them know that if you're always listening to the feedback you're giving us and that their overall sentiment for the product really really matters to us so it's always been great that was for us. It's a question that might come up is what makes sense in terms of the number of customers to include in a Beta and and I don't have a great answer to that it really really depends on the feature what I can tell you is the concept of a private Beta and public data that can come Handy Wendy here so private. Obviously you give restricted access to your sort a number of people. It's an it's by invitation. Only the luxury do you have there is that it's more visible to sit down the customer and do more qualitative research too so to my point of actually talking can do a customer is easier if it was a private. Beta however sometimes it's just makes sense to get a feature in front of every customer that has access to your product up so you might want him to watch the public better also known as an open Beta. Is this a larger sample size which means you have to lean on any quantitative fade back you. You couldn't do qualitative feedback. I guess again. It wouldn't be possible to sit down every customer in that case. I'm clearly explaining your one of the scope of the feature is and I'm also calling out. The feature is rough and that defeat bandon the customers will give us is going to help make it better for future. Oh customers having said that. Please do not use a Beta as an excuse to ship something something that's substandard so don't read a Beta as lead to Q._A. Product have good processes in place so that your best something for your Beta Astor's or before you bring it in front of your customers that have one endeared and are going to take the time to test something for you so it's not an excuse to ship something. That's not great. The one other thing I would like to call out is the administrative overhead that can sometimes come with Betas data's so at mix panel fiennes that he looks like jumping in twos like Galilee just meetings Goo Goo farms always lots and lots of phone calls. Just many many things can be very exhausting sometimes boy. It's super well support. Why is that important. During a Beta you just launched a new feature and it's only fair that a customer is going to need some resources basis or some hand holding to figure out how this works so that can be in the form of training material documentation peons designers engineers support to some extent. All these people can actually drive this process. I think what's really important. Here is to establish a direct be like channel of feedback with your customer and make sure that you're responding quickly to them and you're delivering solutions really fast because then that becomes your way to tell uh-huh customers that customer empathy is something that is very near and dear to you. You're listening to them. You're taking that feedback. You'll find the product more and more customers. Astronomers are going to get that feature that we and there's an image there of what we do. Mix Panel is very the replant a call out where we say hey customer. If you have some issues specifically Beta please click your report fade back and that's kind of coming back to ooh. I said like established. That feedback with your customer in Donald Training to a Beta is good but keep that to a limited amount because your product is just GonNa evolve through a Beta well most important part of Betas measuring the outcomes. This is very very important anytime you said to solve a problem for customer. Make that as a goal for your team. Why you're you're on that define what you define clearly what your success metrics are to be so at any given point in time you should be able to measure against your targets and then use tools like mix panel to track. You know what I wrote here. Metrics the acquisition Matrix engagement metrics all of that most importantly top D._O. Beta testers tried to understand from them what they like about the product or not liking about it. How more can you make it better. <hes> also keep track of any bug. Study of customers are reporting to the Beta but again. The key here is really your move fast. He won't listen to audio. Customers are telling you act on that and that was your find during the product and bringing in front of more people and again a few examples very quickly of kind of the tools that we use through the Beta like I said it's scallon -Ly Google Bombs uh-huh the also set up a ton of meetings. We have regular dashboards. That'd be monitored through Betas. We also use Jira to keep track of all the bugs their customers reporting for their begin. Keep moving and coordination is not a problem so ben is a good time to get take your product of Beta so typically when features are in our products are in Beata you might have noticed a Beta label on it so when I say going off Beta. It's essential European out label four to six weeks could can afford to five or four to six weeks would be ideal but having said that what's really important here is to have a clear exit criteria for your data now that exit criteria could be product-based where you say once X. Y and Z features are built <unk> out. I'M GONNA ZIP or it could just be quantitative where it's your usage metrics that you've the finally on audit could be qualitative feedback. Even there is just positive feedback that you're hearing from your customers. The one good thing about Beta that I must say is the change management which is fairly straightforward it forward so as you launch BETA IF Z launch a product in Beta. If you feel that you didn't resolve a challenge for customer for you make things worse <hes> but it's always possible to rule things by go back to the whiteboard that your team and just jam through other ideas to see how else you can approach the same problem so that's really the beauty of taking your product through Alpha's and Betas and again before your product how can get in front of every customer or the center stage. I wanted you guys to look at a launch checklist which is essentially a good go to market. Strategy always always have that. I don't want to run down this list but I wore no stress on how important it is to have a plan before you actually get out there and that should should include having yard defining your success metrics or the training materials communications specifically targeted messaging there you might want to do based on <hes> based on your customer segments again and then comes the big day because you can product is generally available every customers using your product and it's time for celebration so yes. Dorn Dorn forget to thank your team celebrate their efforts. They've literally put in their blood and sweat to ooh bring the product to market so as it's very very important that you celebrate their forts and the battles not order. This is only half the story because things really start after you've launched right up and it's been jeered so make sure you as a team go through retrospective figured out. What are the things that you could have done better for future? Obviously your maintain the product. You're here customer feedback. You're gonNA hear bonds so so keep that iteration lube on and kind of plan to be next to Joe's talking about so think about the next big thing that you want to do and then just to summarize summarizing the most critical piece that I would take from the takeaway from this discussion would be to stay customer focused always pick problems. There are no help create value not just for you as a business but primarily for your customer and use these processes that we spoke about today the Alpha's the Betas <hes> again establish your channel feedback with your customer get to them fast respond to them and once you land on a on a problem solution thick and you've brought up just wanted to the next problem that your customer has asked you whistles and because I'm at the product conference I wanNA share this <hes> since we have so many awesome PM's spiting here. This is something that I stumbled upon the protocols website. Achieving achieving product market fit requires at least forty percent of users saying they will be very disappointed with your product. I think that's a great goal for you to set for your team mm-hmm and you dame. You learn something and you're trying to evaluate. If has that truly solve the problem for my customers. Do I need to an elaborate an or maybe uneven figured out something else with that. I'd like to go through the presentation. Thank you so much for being patient and listening to me. Thank you for listening to the product podcast. If you like this episode don't forget to leave a review on itunes for more product insights head over to product school dot Com.

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The Best Investment Writing Volume 3: Wes Gray  Factor Investing Fact Check: Are Value and Momentum Dead?

The Meb Faber Show

28:49 min | 1 year ago

The Best Investment Writing Volume 3: Wes Gray Factor Investing Fact Check: Are Value and Momentum Dead?

"Welcome podcast listeners. We have a fantastic episode for you today. Last year. When we published the best investment writing volume two we offered authors the opportunity to record an audio version of their chapter to be releases a segment of the podcast and listeners loved it this year we're bringing you the entire volume of the best investment writing volume three in podcast August format you'll hear from some of the most respected money managers and investment researchers all over the world enough for me. Let's get to our guest and let them take over for this special episode. Hi this is West Gray and I am the CEO of Alpha architect firm with a mission and passion to empower empower investors through education in order to develop sustainable investors are business focus is on delivering. Will we call focus factor. You can always learn more more about us at Alpha architect. Dot Com we always share materials generally educational nature or you can learn about financial markets in quantitative finance general today. I'm going to read a piece entitled factor investing fact check our value in momentum dead. Why do we write right. This post is for some quick background. Well as many listeners reply be aware a lot of factors really haven't delivered much in the form of excess returns over standard market cap benchmarks like for example the S&P five hundred so that's really the context in the why of this his post and so without further ado let's dig in to the stock market at least as measured via the S. and P. Five hundred has had an epic performance run especially relative to all other asset classes. It really doesn't matter whether you look at other asset classes by geography for example. US developed upper merging or style value momentum quality would have you or type stocks bonds or commodities. One thing is perfectly clear the S. and P. Five hundred is king and the S. and P. Five hundred is essentially a mega cap Beta Ada fun with US factor exposure so below is a chart which I'll explain on this podcast of what one calls the Ivy five which here's a concept popularized by mid favor and Eric Richardson and it's a simple way to view asset classes and what it does is it consist of US stocks as measured by the S. and P. Five hundred international stocks as measured by the MSCI total return index real estate is measured by the footsie already in Nex commodities which is proxy lead by via the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index and then finally bonds. Rhett reflect elect a ten year treasury bonds. Oh kind of five big muscle movements capture a lot of the global risk premiums that are available to most investors out there are without incurring too much brain damage in trying to access a particular exposure and so if we look at the five years and these are all ending q three two thousand eighteen if we added the last year so here basically same story be told is the compound annualized return for the SNP is nearly early fourteen percent which is obscene excellent return for international securities as measured by the index. It's around four point four percent so almost a third of this. P. reads around ten percent to about two thirds S. P. Minorities is re represented attended by the index down negative ten percent a year annualized so pretty horrific and then bonds up around one percent a year on a total return basis over the past five clearly diversification was the losers game in investing all in on the S&P five hundred obviously would have been in your best bet now what's interesting is the incredible recent performances S. and P. Five hundred especially relative to so called active strategies. He's has caused many market commentators to make claims the reflect parcel truce in here. Some just examples one is factors or dead value is dead momentum is dead. Active investing is dead. Apparently it's a graveyard of miss but everything seems to be dead unless you were owning owning mega cap. US stocks and of course the problem with all of these statements is that the S. and p. five hundred which again is from from a factor exposure is basically just a mega cap. US Stock Index has beaten essentially every investment style in every investment class on the planet earth the past five years and for the most part the last ten years so clearly this is the king and so while these statements statements about things being dead or correct on the surface the implications or misleading so in in this talk when I'm talking about is by analyzing analyzing the past five performance metrics of these common factor strategies that are out there that are claims to be dead. We're going to identify the falling going for facts won. The S P five hundred gives you mega cap bid exposure to mega cap stocks in general carol where the way to go over the last five years so market cap weighted looked great relative to any other weighting scheme particular equal wait portfolios or fundamental weights or what have you momentum which is just using word is going to look at the common academic cross-section. Momentum are our to twelve momentum. It's actually worked in certain circumstances so there's no indication that momentum should be abandoned and in value were just can look at the generic kind of high booked market cheap stocks certainly look dead and large-caps but hope does exist for smaller stock and the implication is that investors with large mega cap focused value exposures may want to consider a change one because in recent memory mega get cap value stocks measured by book. The market haven't worked and frankly over the past hundred years where we can get dade on it. They've never really worked so why eight people were doing mega cap value in the first place doesn't make any sense but we'll dig into a little bit more as we go through if we consider that the SB five hundred is simply a fund that gives you mega cap exposure and not some magical pixie dust from the vestment. God's then the S. and P. Five hundred recent relative performances performances not surprising. Why do I make that statement well to examine a little bit deeper. We can actually look at the performance metrics across increasingly criminally small-cap exposed performed over the past five years where the S&P five hundred would have the lowest exposure to the small mall cap factor in clearly. If we bought the ten percent smallest firms or the small dead sal you would have the most exposure to the the so-called size factor and in particular what will look at to just move away from factor. gig speak is would compare the SB five hundred to the S. and P. Five hundred E. Kuwait were equal weight is going to be tend to be more focused on smaller stocks because Markelle Arca cap wait puts more weight in the biggest equal weight obviously puts the same amount of weight in both the biggest and smallest but the S. and P. Five hundred equator next still has the biggest I five hundred so we're clear not dental the small caps but definitely smaller than SB five hundred and then we have the Russell two thousand which is the you know the top three thousand securities rank them market cap. It's essentially the bottom two thousand so certainly smaller caps there and then finally we will get a little bit geeky hair the woods look at these small de. Sil- of stocks from Kim French's website this per folios constructed by taking the whole universe of securities sorting them into ten percent buckets from biggest stocks too small stocks and we're GONNA look at that bucket of the ten percent small us so for all intents and purposes this would almost be the small micro cap bucket and what are the last five-year returns return suggest about these four different investment styles well again. SNP five hundred the king fourteen percent compounded annually not bad now the S. and P. Five hundred equal weight which again gives a nod to a little bit smaller the compound at twelve and a half dot bad but certainly a lot less than fourteen in his ricky moving down the chain Russell two thousand compound at eleven so far cry from fourteen indefinitely less than twelve and a half of this five hundred equal weight and if we keep going down the chain and we'd like to this small Dessau Kinda micro cap portfolio. It's it's down at eight point. Four percent almost not half only half of this five hundred what's the point. The point is systematically. Atakli owning big stocks was a much better bet denoting smaller stocks across the board any strategy the place generic bets on non mega cap stocks took it on the Chin Relatively S. and P. Five hundred to summarize if you're not in mega caps so you underperformed regardless of what else she had baked in your cake and so that takes us to our last question here so are we in a new world where kind of growth and mega cab. Beta have killed all the factors and nothing else is going to work or maybe we just in a in sample situation where premium that usually doesn't pay off that great. I e the mega cap funds. Maybe had a good run want they want to do loop for dressing that Israel WanNa look at the interaction between size and the factors 'cause we know that size as just in general underperform but I'd be interested to know how that interaction works with Diane momentum and the other kind of classic factories out there good place I start here is is losing. His colleagues actually have a recent paper called replicating anomalies and they highlight specifically that it's important that one controls for size interviewing various factor anomalies because size and the factors those performance tend to be co mingled so in really in order to really make a statement about factor. We need to control for size because as we just discuss sometimes just by buying small all stuff you're gonNA look like an idiot but does that necessarily mean that values dead or does it mean that values stocks tend to be smaller and it was the size component driving under performance not necessarily the value performance so we really got to kind of dissect this kind of losing an end colleagues point was is it factors act very differently outside of the Mega Cap Stock Universe and even though we've covered this before over the last five years as we know big stuff has crushed about everything so instead of breaking down our investment universe by just size alone which we just discussed go ahead of this we're now going to analyze investment universe by large value in large momentum rela to the SNP so at least now we're kind of controlling for size and just saying hey assuming were only investing in mega caps. How do the factors look for value and momentum and then just generic Beta because now maybe we can make a statement about factors so and if we do that we can generate this data again using Ken French's website Word Word is GONNA use again generic large value and growth those are just gonNa be the biggest security portfolios split on those that are the the cheapest on book to market and the most expensive on book market which reflect value and growth respectively and then for the large momentum portfolios the the winner and the loser portfolio again using Ken French's data. WE'RE GONNA go look at the momentum portfolio sorted on size. We're going to only look at the large size bucket and they were going to specifically examine the large high momentum portfolio and the large cap low momentum portfolio folio in plot all these returns out and so when we do that what are we sleep well again the benchmark care the S. P. Five hundred was around around fourteen percent and what's interesting is if we I look at the value factor again holding consistent size because we're only looking looking at big stocks here. Large value was around ten percent compounded so definitely less than fourteen but large growth or glamour. The most expensive stocks actually eighteen percent so they actually crush the sob five hundred so in some sense. Obviously the value premium Liam was negative controlling for size not a great outcome so values certainly looks dead at least on this baseline analysis but now we can shift our momentum Menem so if we take all large stocks in and we sort them on those that have high momentum low momentum in we'll call the high momentum ones the large winners and the Lohman ones the large losers well the big mega cap momentum securities action around sixteen percent so little a bit less than the the mega cap growth but definitely better than the market whereas the large loser stocks or these negative momentum securities they came in around eight percents almost half of the S. and P. So momentum she worked so momentum as a factor controlling for size chalked up a win value value as a factor controlling for size definitely chalked up a loss the last five years large cap growth and momentum had I've been a killer combo and market commentators are correct if they say that large cap value has really stunk it up at least based on price just a book type measures which is very common out there as value. You know what maybe this isn't too surprising because large cap value has never really been a compelling Ling factor when assessing different markets in different time periods in fact you include a mega cap large cap value exposure portfolio. It's it's arguably a bad idea. When considering the transaction costs the tax drag and the added complexity it doesn't really allow value relative relative to just good old fashioned you know meg meg account market cap in sees but it does add a layer of additional cost loss because you got to try to capture this whole factor thing and if we look in general to reiterate that point so what are just the general statistics over the long haul in how do are they compare versus what they've done the last five years so for some context what kind of the base rates on these mega cap value momentum type factors as well. If you look at large value. It's around over the whole time period. It's around Levin Point eight percent so a little bit better than the market but the last five years again it's been around ten which is a lot less than the market so not too far off within the bounds large cap growth oath or basically big stuff. That's the most expensive over. The long haul is actually generally a bad bet in. It's actually had a great run over the last five five years earning eighteen percent relative to fourteen percent. SMP So clearly buying expensive stuff was was actually a good idea this go around but in general it's a bad idea. If we look at large momentum stocks large momentum stocks overall generally tend to beat the market. I have a measure around around thirteen point five percent here since nineteen sixty three versus the markets around ten so definitely a big winner and then in sample. It's also been a big winners. Sixteen percent versus fourteen so momentum's certainly seems to be alive and well similarly. If you look at like big cap losers or low momentum securities securities they were really bad in the most recent period eight percent compound versus fourteen but historically there around four percent versus ten so they're always bad and in recent memory. They've actually just a little bit better than they typically are but you wanNA definitely avoid low momentum securities thirties even amongst the mega caps outs over long-haul mega cap value has beaten growth by bit in mega cap momentum. anamour winners definitely be losers by a lot. The momentum statement still holds the value statement is obviously been reversed here. The last five years thousand analysis amongst the biggest securities out there how're factors doing controlling for size and the summary was momentum's working values clearly not now we can do is we can flip this argument down to the smaller cap names were again we could control for size is we're going to only look at small caps which we know in general as a group have underperformed significantly relative to large-caps large-caps but then we can lease ascertain how the factors are doing in small. Kaplan relative to just generic market cap in his at the outset. We mentioned the S. and P. Five hundred from a factor perspective is a Mega Cap Beta fun and you could argue at me have small growth momentum type tilts else but I think on average. It's just Beta and it's just mega caps. We also know that mega caps crust competition regardless of what factor activated or or what have if you were big you want if you're small you lost is kind of the summary and so if you had growth or momentum momentum exposures on top of mega cap exposures you were the undeniable king of the most recent market memory especially in the US the stock market specifically so but again would if we decide to look into the non mega cap factor world so and that's what we're GonNa China do next so here we are. We're going to look at is the smallest securities across the board except we're going to then split them by their value and momentum mm factor so we're going to look at a small value portfolio and a small growth portfolio what is that while small is going to be the the universes securities in the bottom twenty percent in within those securities we want to look for those that are the cheapest based on book to market and those that are the most expensive based on book the market and we're in a call those value and growth respect and we'll do a similar exercise from Amenam where we're gonna sort on the past winners in the past losers amongst thanks those stocks that are already small and if you remember here the benchmarks for this analysis or is false the S. and P. Five hundred which is kind of your your mega cap benchmark came in and around fourteen percent compounded last five years. I bet the small dead. Sil- which is a benchmark for just generically buying small stuff came in at around eight and a half a little bit less than that much less nasty and not bad eight percent compounds a terrible but it certainly a lot less than the mega caps and so for this analysis the benchmark is not really s and P it's going to be the small Dessau portfolio folio at around eight and a half percent so we now look at value over this period while small value action around ten percent so again got crushed by the SNP but relative to just generically buying small stuff actually pretty good tens a lot higher than eight and a half. I've been in contrast. If we look at small gross stocks Abassi small expensive firms they actually underperformed in line with their historical expectation so they are around seven point two percent relative to that small Dessau portfolio around eight and a half so in small caps values actually still very much much alive and actually worked frantz purposes but just relative to the S&P five hundred or anything that over exposes into large securities. He's it appears valued at work but it does once one consider size and so when we now look at momentum and conduct a similar analysis will momentum is also in line actually with its historic wisdom. It's where small momentum stocks came in and around nine. Point seven percent compounded versus verses eight and a half for the generic small cap. You know portfolio benchmark so momentum work in an again as is in line with historic era classmates. These small losers stocks are the low momentum stocks came in a very terrible three and a half percent compounded versus eight and a half the benchmark so it's interesting here in silence in contrast to the discussion in mega caps where value is dead dead momentum was very much alive in small caps once we control for the fact they were only playing around in smaller securities both value and momentum worked so they desailly were not debt which is interesting because it goes a lot against a lot of the arguments out there when says it factors treasure dead. You know so great. We've proved factors aren't dead and they probably work. He's gotTa be a little bit smarter about controlling for size exposure insurer here. We know what we're looking at is apples to apples comparison and not an apples to oranges. Co is a side note here this is all about US analysis if one looks in international markets I think it's also clear that factors aren't dead especially when controlling for size because they've actually done okay out out there and because there's been less of a size effect relative to the US markets. There's I think there's also been less confusion about the fact that factors are still working can at the margin out there so why don't we go through all this analysis of of trying to break buckets down by size and then within size. Look get the factors and how they're doing well again. We did that because it's important to consider size especially in a market environment where you're just owning big stuff pretty much crushed a system that owns smaller stuff and we will see that in the results because if you look at small value portfolios or small momentum portfolios and you compare them over last five ten years relative to two large growth or the S. and P. Five hundred well you're gonNA look stupid and that's not because the factors weren't working we already just disgusts gusts that value and momentum actually worked fine in smaller caps like it helped you diff- differentiate those that were good and bad relative to all other small caps but they decidedly underperform as a whole versus your large cap growth indices or your S. and p. five hundred the final thing we can do to reiterate this point. That size is definitely mattered. A lot in factors aren't really dead is we can look look at value and momentum across the five different size buckets to see how they do on a relative basis win compare air to the appropriate size benchmark so for example we can have super small micros we can have schmid cap mid cap large cap and mega cap it we can control for the size groupings but then within those sized groupings look at the performance of cheap versus expensive offensive and look at the performance of winners vis versus losers and so if we do that in the context of value to start what we see. He is that pretty much across the board obviously the smaller the portfolios wherever they were growth or value the underperformed S. and P. Five hundred and in general value premium has been negative so holding consistent size growth portfolios generally stomped value portfolios albeit at a much lower level than in the mega cap stocks and the one area were that was different different was what we discussed. Prior is in that small kind of micro cap world. They're still did seem to be a premium out there but certainly value looked dead even when controlling for size across most of the different size buckets we can group securities into now when we do that. Sam Analysis on momentum mm we're again. We're GONNA take five categories of size small schmid cap mid cap kind of mid large and then you're mega caps kind of break in the universe up into five different sized buckets and then with in each of those sized buckets. We're going to look at how high momentum did verses versus low momentum or basically the winner stockers loser stocks pretty much across the board independent or size momentum worked so momentum. Adam kept on ringing register as it always has obviously smaller focused strategies doing momentum underperformed anything that was owning. SNP type securities but within a difference particular size bucket the momentum versions of the strategy definitely beat those was it had low momentum so momentum also worked whereas visable it a little bit more shaking so inclusion. The intent of this piece is really just to give have readers a more nuanced view of the common investment factors out there and how they have fared relative to the so-called market which is often considered ashby five hundred in to make a long story short everything in the world regardless if you're looking at factors rasic classes or geography geography has looked poor relative to the SNP and the S. and p. five hundred has delivered exposure to Mega Cap Beta arguably with a growth till and we know the last five years that the best factors in the highest performing factors in the world are mega cap us Beta Beta growth so s and p's being everything however once we control for different size exposures and then we look at how factors of done done within different size buckets. It seems to be the case. That momentum is certainly not dead. it's worked across the board in value who is Kinda dead but you do see some evidence that it has worked in micro small caps and I think there's some evidence also you'd see that if we did this analysis and international international on the other hand to summarize value might be dead momentum certainly alive and well but it's really important that when doing analysis on factors that one consider size in the analysis and we compare apples to apples as opposed to apples to oranges thanks for your time hope this was useful. If you have any questions feel free to reach out direct and or you can hit us up at our website added. ALPHA ARCHITECTS DOT COM.

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The Walking Dead | Season 10, Episode 10 Recap: Stalker

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The Walking Dead | Season 10, Episode 10 Recap: Stalker

"The walking dead season ten episode ten is over but we are just getting started. Here on post show recap so everybody. Welcome back to another round of the walking dead. Joined here at the Great Jessica. Lea and of course you are joined here by me as I always am. Josh twitter today would like to reveal my real name. Is Mary Mary all right? A Murray Murray good enough Maury you keep changing your answer. I feel like you're still holding back some information from me and that means that's as good as you're lying and you know that. I can tell when everybody is lying all the time and lying get to killed in the world of the dead just the walking dead just like went full Halloween on us this week. Yeah this was a legitimately creepy and gross episode of the walking dead which is generally a creepy gross series. But I feel like this was. This was a different kind of creepy. Gross this is the kind of stuff you can do. If you're ten seasons deep into a show right you you've now if he hadn't earned it before their shows that can get to this stuff much quicker but if he hadn't earned it before if you hadn't earned your straight up slash episode of the walking dead at this point The earned it by now and Betas going full. Michael Myers on Alexandria. Lori is is long dead so there's no laurie to stop him this. I will say there have been shows in fact a show that I once covered for post show recaps. That tried to do this episode and didn't earn it so I'm so curious name names. What show is that orange? Is the new black? Tried to do a EP. Stocker slasher kind of episode and it was a fail. Well it might be the worst episode of the entire series. And I'M GONNA get added for that certainly but I must have dropped out at that season I was might have been four Taylor and I were still call covering it but they had this very big mean guard and there were some people in the middle of a prison riot. He was stalking them through the prison and clearly like they were trying to insinuate that he was going to murder them and it was a good episode This is a better slasher episode. It seems like much better slasher episode for sure. I certainly believe that this is a character who is capable of doing. These things are well. We've got a lot to get through in covering this episode. We got some great feedback from folks. Also a bad piece of feedback. Let me just take a moment here to say? Please don't use our feedback channels to spoil her grenade us on anything. There's a possibility that there was a thing that was thrown our way that that could be real could be nothing. But just don't do that just not cool. Don't add us. That's what we mean we say. Don't add us. Yeah generally speaking I kind of. If there's a spoiler out there we know where to get those things that we want him. We want him. We don't want you don't need to give them to us. We didn't ask for this. We ask for your opinions your thoughts your feelings your predictions we don't ask for. Hey I heard that this thing is definitely going to happen and the good news. I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical skeptical of the thing. But just don't do that. Don't do that. I know it wasn't like with any ill-intention but just don't do that don't you can. You can always tweet at us around Howard at Haymaker Hattie APP post show recaps. Don't tweet anything that you wouldn't just like feel good about saying you get questions about the show about a character motivation. Send that are way. You got jokes like your jokes spoiler as you can hang onto those motivations. I could talk about those all week long. That's what we're here for. You got a lot of motivation to talk about Starting with Beta because that's the episode begins with him in some whisperers we're going to go into the RV's latrine. Was that right where they go in through the toilet tunneled toilet tunnel now. Toilets are usually in the back of those things I think they just picked up a piece of furniture and it was underneath that they just parked it on top of the whole to say though I think that Winnebago duty is probably the sweetest cushy Gig you can get as a whisper. Are we not talking about the toilet anymore when you say when a Bego duty or he said duty as you said I I guess I did? I did say duty. I think at that point like the latrine is far from the camp for hygiene reasons. I would guess the same is true in the Winnipeg. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah Cuban but they all get to stick it to sitting easy chairs they just get to kind of hang out and like grunted each other and occasionally move a chair so that Beta can go through the secret tunnel and by the way I have a lot of feelings about this tunnel system. Yeah we will get to. Walking dead is a proud tradition with the. Rv's it's been a while since we've seen like a really good RV on the walking dead. I feel I. I think there was was there an RV in the episode where Nagin and his teenage alight found that mother and son. Yeah that was. That was months ago at this point for US same season. I guess that's true us as what is this the second. Rv Of the season. Yep Yep if we're if we're keeping track can you tell the quality of a season of the walking dead by how many episodes feature an Rv it can be the same RV but it has to its episode appearances of RV? Her season exceeding one's gotTa have the most. Rv per episode per season. Well Yeah RV practice every episode character every episode and that same RV was a character pretty much up through like around the time they had moved. That hurt away after. Those guys crashed a semi truck into the ball. Do you prefer R. V. or R. J. R. V? I think has a wider range of acting ability point in time a greater tradition in the walking dead cannon as well but hey we got an RJ citing J. Two didn't seem like much but he's alive he's still here. You still kicking. A most of the episode was split across two story lines with one of those story lines containing like a bunch of splinter storyline. So let's let's begin in Alexandria Where we're going to. We're going to be tracking like Rosetta Story. Line and how? She is still coping with what happened to CDC and how father. Gabriel is continuing the process of totally losing his shit. And Gama's GONNA show up and that's going to be a big to do as it's going to invite Beta into into Alexandria. What did you think of everything? That's going on now the entry this week. I gotta be honest Josh. I feel like this episode was filler. This was about five minutes of actual events across the entire episode. And one of those events was certainly Gama's whole process of ingratiating herself to this group and making herself useful and I think that's I think that's an interesting and useful themed to explore this episode. Because I think one of the central points I one of the things we keep coming back to in this universe over and over. Is this idea of when you meet a new person. How do you know who's going to be telling the truth? And who is genuine and who is just setting a trap for you and I think we've seen it both ways so many times where you've seen sometimes people seem like they're really nice they're bros. Giving you food and then it turns out they're cannibals or you see people like pretending to need help on the road and then it turns out that it's they're setting you up for an ambush but then there's also think rick. Grimes gotten very lucky. Many times over the years where he would let people into his circle and they would turn out to be good people right and you never really knew like from week to week. Sometimes he'd feel really good about letting everybody in and sometimes it would just be like. Let's wait for that guy to die and then take his backpack so you do kind of. They've spent a lot of time over the years vacillating between I don't trust anybody and okay. We'RE LETTING OUR GUARD DOWN. We're trusting everybody and I feel like we've done so much work to establish those rules and find that boundary and over correct sometimes and come back to the middle that now. It's really cheap for us to just say. Okay father. Gabriel has taken confession which he's Episcopalian. They don't really do that. I'm glad that you said it because I obviously have no idea so. I don't know how it works in terms of Gabriel's faith so this is not a thing that he's supposed to be doing. I mean he could probably make his own rules like he doesn't have to answer to a higher governing board anymore so if he wants to take confession I suppose probably can but it really cheapens this whole process of who do you trust and why does have father. Gabriel be like I can look at you and I can tell whether you're lying or not like Okay Dad. Do you really know if I put some water in your schnapps bottle. I think you do. And I'm going to call your bluff but God is speaking to father. Gabriel and I mean all of that aside do not find it a compelling story like father. Gabriel is now like harshly interpreting. The word of God like this is the thing that you see with people wielding religion as a weapon in here. It's being wielded in the world of the damned. It's it's an interesting thought for sure that it just doesn't fit with the character we'd seen. Yeah it's it's kind of strange that religion still has a place in this world and that he has managed to hang on this long. It's it's kind of fun that the Father. Gabriel that we saw who completely turned away from everything that he was about pre apocalypse. And who had this heavy burden that he was carrying from his cowardice? Like he's really come back around. And he's on this other extreme where he has reimbursed his faith and he's kind of using it as a bludgeon right right well. The meeting. The budget is just one of the many things that he wants to use. It for. Sounds like he needs like forceps and pliers and other devices with which to Maimon torture because the things he's describing that he wants to do to the whispers jess pretty gnarly is saying like take out an I like. He's really taking eye for an eye quite literally. I was what he's saying like we broke. Gamma WE'RE GONNA be able to break all these whisperers they're cowards. Let's take off fingers takeout teeth and like even Rosetta. Who is a serious bad ass? Who USED TO Really have it out for the Savior's even she is like Yo and maybe to throw. It didn't teach that in seminary Gabriel. So He's got like the Zeki twenty-five seventeen thing this is like I was gonna say this is like jewels before the miracle happens. He's going to strike down with vengeance upon the whispers. Hope that the whispers aren't sitting on a stash of Kupuna Burgers as they're going to get eaten up. Yeah they definitely. Alpha would not be thrilled if she found out. Some whispers. Were secretly hoarding fast. Food I don't think he'd like that no definitely wouldn't and she wouldn't like them talking about because she makes everybody renounce. Everybody's name shouldn't like them talking about. What is the name of a Burger in another country? Donegan give Alpha foot massage is a big lingering mystery here in season ten if the walking dead wood gave real gives Rosetta. That think myself many people watching the wachner. Like all right. This is the father. Gabriel death episode. Were you surprised that he made it through? And do you think that there is any significance to that or is it just throw up? I think his I think his clock is running out. I think I think things are ticking. Down on father. Gabriel and I. I do think that there is some significance to giving his hat away because we know that when people give their hats away historically doesn't tend to go well for them. Yeah no I mean like I was a frankly i. The other thing is prized by this. I thought that was GONNA wear it. She used to be like Karl or Judas. And like the grimes hat on and we are we trying to make father. Gabriel's hat like an iconic thing. I kind of thought a rather audacious of the walking dead to try and do that. There is a finite number of noticeable hats. You can put in any one TV Syria Josh. I don't think this is one that we're going to really remember. Yeah I kind of forgot. He even had a hat like he's got such a nice shiny bald head. He's got a good head shape. Why would he cover that up? Harry feeling about Rosetta. Are you concerned for Rosetta? At all. She's having these streams of whisperers coming in killing cocoa. Stop feeling good about everything. That's gone on in her life recently. Well I feel like that dream was in some sense prophetic because it ends up being Beta. This kind of ends up being what happens. She dreams about Beta Beta manifest. She's like Freddie Hammer. Was it a Freddy Kruger thing? Yeah never mind. Never Mind Michael Myers. That's Freddy Kruger. Do the whisperers while I was just going to. The whisperers need somebody in their ranks to be like not even like a Claude Villain but somebody who's very mouthy and of course they have one in. Eagan should go. Full Freddy Kruger with the whisperers I think he enjoys a good rhyme and he enjoys annoying people. I don't think he would rock stripy sweater. Though I mean if it's clothes or no clothes seems like he would prefer to have the clothes on based on how he was initially reacting to Alpha. So maybe you can just get him the shirt wear it if he doesn't have another option and maybe he could borrow father. Gabriel's hat and then he might do a little impression. Is He allowed to wear his leather jacket over. The strikes probably has to probably ask you. What do you like better Degan as as Freddie Krueger or Boston? Rob Is Nagin. Can we do Boston as eagerness Freddie Krueger absolutely we can but I can't do the voice. We'll have yeah nor can I. I leave that to the experts. If bus and rob wants to lay claim to to Neagh in then I think like Tony Block goes gets Beta because using a spy bunker here in in the walking dead season ten You said that thoughts on the tunnels they do have some thoughts on the. We've got to hear the thoughts on the tunnels. But I have a quick that I wanna see Tony as Alpha. Because he's got the ball passer. That's my one thought on it. Yeah we will free. Yeah I WANNA see him talking Lama to Daryl feels like a very strange strange thing. Talk to me about the tunnels I WANNA GET WANNA get an angry. Just rant about the tunnels okay. So are we to believe that these tunnels were built by the whisperers and nobody noticed this like there is a miles long section of tunnel that goes right up underneath. Alexandria re to assume that Dante built these tunnels and if so don't they spent his six months in Alexandria being a doctor. Making friends sabotaging the water supply killing a bunch of people. And where was he supposed to find? Time to dig a miles long network of tunnels underneath the entire compound and not get noticed. I mean it took addied Efrain twenty years to tunnel out of Shawshank that was like a foot wide and he had to go through a river of Shit to do it. He did but he didn't have to dig that river. He had to dig through one wall and Dante would have had to dig much much more than that. Like did he just likes muggle in a couple of jackhammers and a bunch of dynamite. And we're expected to believe that. Nobody heard him doing that. And I just having trouble with nobody noticing this because their perimeter is pretty well maintained and they have watchman they have watch towers on like all around this place for miles in either direction. And they're not gonNA notice somebody like digging with a shovel like one of those little bugs. Bunny mounds coming through into come underneath. Come up through. A grade is ridiculous. This is this beggars belief. I demand absolute realism in my Sabi Apocalypse. Show at all time at least in terms of the construction projects. Yes as far as structural engineering. Does this is a big no for me. So to skip to the feedback section feedback about this of course and Jamie girl heads had reached out to us on twitter and said okay. Seriously how do the whisper slash Dante tunnel underground for presumably miles without a industrial equipment? E The tunnel collapsing. Or see anyone noticing too which I believe I replied. Eugene is a confirmed whisper. Eugene was clearly in cahoots with Dante but am chimed in with this on twitter to this threat and said I assumed that they found the tunnel and didn't create it much like the tunnel system that coral found back during the. Save Your war all out war. They did hide out in some tunnels once upon a time. Could these be the same tunnels? And this is like a different entrance into Alexandra from the south then you'd have to build out at least like a ten foot tunnel probably at the very smallest like as a divergence to get right up into that gravesite in Alexandria. Yeah you have to do some digging like I think I think that. Am is probably right aged that satisfy what you're you're going. No you still have to dig down into a into a grave and like dig out however far you need to do to get into the existing network of tunnels and that probably means you gotta break down the wall of the existing tunnel to get in there like this is still going to require much more than one human who's already tired from poisoning water supply. Yeah Rock Hammer good or bad weapon in the Zombie Apocalypse. You know. I've seen people kill zombies with much lesser rock and would be good. I mean I've seen people use the door on a winnebago bathroom to kill somebody Crack 'em roadwork. I'd rather have a rock hammer to be honest. How matter we about the tunnels thing when it leads to the Halloween seen though because Beta rampaging Alexandria them like even like shooting. It like. It's an. It's like a from Halloween like when the cameras outside the House and you see him like going through the house. You see him appearing over the person's shoulder like it was good. I thought that he had a really good job with it. I will say this episode. Well in my opinion it was kind of light on plot. I think you're right about that. I think absolutely I mean when our main story is Gabriel and Rosetta. Maybe that's a symptom more. We're in season ten if the walking dead but like if felt the same way to me that it felt it felt kind of slow. Yeah we've killed off one too many of our of our main cast but I really I thought for all of the lack of plot there was just some beautiful cinematography and direction episode like it was just a joy to watch visually and so many Oh moshers to classic horror movies that it was just. It was so much fun. Like you've even got the classic. Zombie movie scene of a hand reaching up through the grave at who thought ten season. We're we're going to get one of those. That was cool. Did it defies. Plausibility asked the general premise of walking ted. But within that we do like to have things make sense but I think I'm willing to forgive it not making much sense because we got to see Beta rise from the grave. That was fun. That was Super Super Fun to see that. And I mean speaking of Stephen King. It did remind me a bit. He does have a short story that takes place in like this little fishing town in Maine as it often does. Yes as it often does and it is as Ambi- apocalypse and all of the zombies that are buried in the town graveyard come out of the grave and like everybody that has drowned in the harbor comes out of the harbor and when I saw that that Han pushing up through the grave made me think of Brian. Depalma's Carrie for one thing and then it also made me think. Oh are we now. Did we forget to double tap? Somebody did somebody get buried. And then like somehow. We didn't destroy their brains. So they're GONNA COME BACK. And dissolves come back now through their graves. Now Right. Is that a thing that's happening are reaching the rules. Ten seasons in it made me think for a second I was misled for just that one split second and tell US I. Oh It's Beta and somehow he went from the motorhome to here. Yeah yes just lots of just tenacity and drive to to please Alpha. He wants to sneak in Alexandria and sneak out with Gamma so that he can bring her back to two alpha to suffer the consequences at Alpha's command and gamma really doesn't want that even though Gabriel's threatening Gammon this episode even though Judith is the only person who's showing gamma any kindness gamut gamma is gonNA is GonNa take a stand almost going to kill herself because she knows that that is GonNa Make Beta freak out. It's going to save Brasilia's life were you surprised by Gama's actions in this episode of your big th or a Birch Fan repleaced with your your Birch quotient in this episode. I thought she was great. This episode I also thought Judith was an MVP because honestly if you had somebody that you had captured and you didn't know if they were a good guy or bad guy and you could send in one person to interrogate them and you had to choose between father. Gabriel and Judith you send Judith every time right yeah I mean. She is a child so shudder than father taper veteran not wrong. You're not wrong. Who's better at the job? You are crossing a line. Perhaps in sending the child in but maybe a lines have already been crossed. Since we're dealing with zombies. Enrolls are out the window one world yeah and Judith says to gamma. I thought this was really interesting quote because I suppose in this era. It might be true but it's certainly not been true. The whole way around Judah says to her. You Bet the wrong person I if you'd met my mom or my dad you wouldn't be in that sell off that great. Well I guess that's probably true. Because if the if if she had met Ricker mish shown depending on the season should either be part of the group or death or dad really didn't take any prisoners even when they were living in the prison. Yeah not not really. It would be kind of like oh random new person it depends on what mood. Rick is in that a slasher three. What is what is the how long is Rick's beard? I think is a good barometer for whether or not gamma would've survived when she met Rick. Grimes yeah and. I'm sure that I'm sure that this many years out I think machines tactics have changed somewhat but on the other hand for shown finds her college friend and her college friend is leading a death cult of children. So maybe not maybe not. It's possible Gama's name is. Is Mary going to start calling her gamma? Is there something or we're going to start calling her Mary to keep calling her gamma. What do you what do you WanNa go with from now on do we do? We marry good. Mary Gamma-ray Arna. There's something about Mary. Yeah I think tried to set her up with MAG Miko. I think we just gotTa wait and see what more people call her for. Now I think of her as gamage because that's how we were introduced to her and you know maybe they should not take a page out of fear the walking dead and change her name four times in a season. Hello Agenda Healthman right. Yeah he was in fairness to fear the one. Everybody was only three name changes so as one viewer to keep track but she was Laura and Naomi and then June and then June has only three. But it's still lot. It's a lot of names for one character. It's too many names. Caluzzi would like a word. What do we think is going to happen on the road to the hilltop? Or they're going to get there safely. Everyone's GonNa make it. I think so I. I wouldn't imagine that it's not the whispers style. Just engage people on the road. Yeah Yeah I. What's going to happen when Mary reunites with her? Her nephew is she getting visitation rights. Honestly I'm not sure I would give them to her. I mean she did kill her nephews mother so that doesn't seem like a great idea. It's great I'm not sure into that feeling like Mary is going to survive the season or do we think that we are going to lose Mary. I think for Birch is a big get and I suspect that such a one off get. Yeah I suspect. She commits an act of great sacrifice. At some point I think we we have to defeat the whispers somehow and I think I think where you have a big battle like this you have to lose somebody important and honestly Josh who's left that's important interest people people people people. There's a few there steph. We have people out there who are important. Sure Law Lost Laura. That was a big deal. Yeah it's funny. I want to talk about this because the first time you see Laura on screen in this episode just remind people or as the one that Beta kills in the prison used to work with Megan. We have drew. Who wanted a suppor- one out for a quote Unquote Barcode Lady? I believe that is the same person. Laura we stand a bar code. Rip Barcode Queen. Laura is dead. I was surprised by that. I guess to some degree. I don't know maybe I was surprised by the fact that I was surprised by it. Well here's the thing. Josh the first time we see her in this episode there in the meeting House Slash House of worship. I'm not sure I love this set by the way because it's clear that it's like something. They've built post apocalypse. And it's very rustic looking thought. It was just kind of a beautiful interior and you see other. Gabriel kind of assembling his team and to the people are Laura and then we got Scott Right and I thought the second we see like to named characters that have been around for a while and they're just kind of showing up again. You know you'RE GONNA lose one of them. It's it's Tobin Syndrome. It is Tobin Syndrome. Everyone goes the way of Tobin eventually on the walking dead this week. It was Laura's turn our PR code clean. Yeah I was really worried for Scott to be honest like he doesn't just like disappear for two years of the show and then come back and be. Okay yeah typically. I don't think that that's really really something. That tends to happen very often on the show disappear and then you come back and it's typically to dive. Scott I think would have been it would have been fun to see him versus Beta. That would have been good. Yeah would have been all right but it also I think I think the fight between the Beta fight has to either be someone who's a huge huge character or someone who's really terribly outmatched. Right and I think Laura is bad ass but she was definitely outmatched by a guy that was three times size. He could just like pick her up and throw in. That's basically how he took her out. The classic question here is why not just like stab him. Why why go in there and like say like Gamma Get Outta here? Mary leave just like say yourself running around so many Scott even moments this episode. Why don't you just kill him? And I I can think of at least two times when they should have just killed him and it would have been great. That was one of them. Like she's got a big like halberd or whatever. That thing is cool. It was cool and it seems like if you swing his neck it's probably GonNa take his head off. And maybe you should just do that. And I don't care that. Gabriel wants to keep them alive. That one is extra dangerous and baby like probably not going to be a source of any useful information a bet. That dude can stand up torture. I don't think you're going to break them. You didn't break the other guy and the other guy was a better guy sucked big time. Yeah so maybe don't put so much stock in your ability to break people because you didn't break that guy and this guy's much tougher so just take him out. Then and the other time is why didn't you to double tap boo on Judith? For that Nice Shot Judas but you gotta go for the Double Tap. Yeah I mean I know. She's twelve. She's not supposed to be expected to know but yet she has grown up in this world. She certainly knows what happens when you kill someone. She certainly knows she probably shouldn't just stunned. This guy like they're walking right past him take him out like shoot him in the head. The only plausible explanation species out of AMMO and she just wants to get out of there but feel like she probably has more than one bullet in that gun who who gets roughed up worse in this episode Beta or Alpha Beta shot. He stabbed bunch need gets thrown down like you know all over the place and he's still walking by the end of it. Alpha doesn't get quite as much abuse but seemed like she was closer to death. Yeah I mean Beta has many more hit points that might be it like Alpha is it's high big slasher killer energy. Yeah Yeah he's definitely like you can't just kill Jason by shooting him once. We threw him down an elevator shaft. Once he was fine. Yeah I I mean I think it's GonNa take something pretty special to take out Beta. How did you feel about everything with Alpha this week? Let's Segue over to that with Daryl versus Alpha a Darrell Darrell on the hunt to find like a secret entrance into the cave. This is how he goes about doing it. Just like taking Alpha and head on good strategy bad strategy. This seemed like I don't think he was prepared to do that. I think he was doing his cave stuff. He was ghost belonging and Alpha interrupted him Alpha and her band of walkers and he really had no choice there because she was about to do something terrible. Yeah Yeah I don't know a felt like like really like went from six to midnight pretty quickly with His mission seemed like they'd have covert bent to it and then it just became an all out assault but I guess it was kind of Cathartic to see Alpha taking some punishment as we. Yeah but again like she almost seemed superhuman as well. Because they believe you they both do. They both really get beaten up pretty badly and they're both ultimately mostly fine like we seem to be in like this really constricted timeframe in the walking dead right now like giving the escalation of the war. He can't imagine that a lot of time. It's going to be passing in these next few episodes. I bet like Daryl's and Alpha and Beta are all literally running around in the real time of the show within like five hours of this episode ending. Yeah and I'M GONNA Call Shot Josh. I think next time not only do we not move forward in time. I think we actually backtrack a little bit. And we look at what other characters have been doing. Wow this is also happening. Yeah I mean we'll get to that in a second but I I had a question for you because I know you had the opportunity to watch the episode at least twice but I know I've seen it twice. So what was the specific nature of Alpha's injury because I didn't quite catch what exactly was causing her to be in such bad shape. So derelict stabbed her in the chest with a spirit looked like he had her at one point where I had her pinned on the ground in had like a big wooden stake in her collarbone area. Like she's vampire. Yeah but and he has had him. He's like a Shitty van helsing It he like. He just missed like he'd stabbed her bunch. She stabbed him a bunch so a lot of stabbing mostly slashing. I would say she did stat. Like she had a knife in his in his His thigh at one point. Yeah I saw the knife in the thigh because that was pretty gnarly and I was screaming at him not to take that out of there. You know what you gotTa You. GotTa work with what you've got. Yeah I guess it was nice of Alpha give him a weapon when those walkers came. Yeah exactly yeah. He likes stabbed Alphand a in the shoulder pretty badly. It looked like it was like it was like a little bit. Further inland. That far from the shoulder is my very technical way of describing the location of chested. I get I get what you're putting down. Looks looked painful. Looked painful look painful. I don't know if it looked like you're going to die levels of painful but maybe untreated over the course of several hours as it seemed to be before Lydia showed up Maybe I was GONNA SMART. A Little Bit Alpha seemed very ready to cross to the other side. I'm ready to meet pain. I'm tingling with joy stoked to Die Alpha and Lydia shows up but she's like extra stoked because she's like. Oh Lydia you're back here to kill me off. This is great. Yeah here's here's the thing I feel like Alpha has some kind of faulty reasoning skills. Here she she insists that Lydia needs to be the one to kill her and then go back to the whisperers and take over as leader. Now Honestly Josh if Lydia does this and rolls up on the whispers as like hey guys. I'm here to be your leader. Do you think that's going to go over well with any of that really? No no just because just because your parents are somebody important doesn't mean you automatically would be good at being important. Yahoo News. Such nepotism within the whisperer ranks. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure. Beta wants nothing to do with that. I don't think he'd be into it but I but I think like if Lydia shows back up with the mask with the Alpha mask and if she comes there with some Alpha Bravado. Maybe like that helps. But we're talking about Lydia taken a real you know and akin to vader turn and that does not seem to be in the cards. Lydia Chooses Darryl over Alpha and Alpha feels empowered by this. The end of the episode is her being like. I'm no longer week. I'm stronger than ever. But it's interesting that she may be out as more Russell hands than Tony WLAC. I think I think it's very russell hands move to just kind of latch onto a mantra and repeated over and over until you believe yourself because I I really I don't know I again. This just speaks to how little we moved forward because I feel like Alpha was at this point before I feel like maybe we've even closed out an episode before on a tracking shot of Alpha proclaiming to the universe that she's now week. It's not new territory. I didn't really didn't really love it. But here's a question for you josh. Do you think like say you did come across. Alpha dying in the middle of an abandoned gas station and you dispatched her and she happened to have her creepy facemask lying there. Could you necessarily could you? Maybe take her clothes. If you're about her size could you put her clothes on and put her face mask on and then pretend to be alpha? Yeah do people know you? Well enough I mean you have to know her to a degree in like no the body language you have to have like sort of a strange little like Lou be able to do the voice on the phone very important. Caralan like it's Kinda like that you know it's like a cross between Russell and Nell no Taytay to win a yeah. I can't stop thinking about Russell. Hansen Alpha especially in the context of Boston Robbins. Neagh and put some very very tough imagery. And I've read that fantasy shake off that little had snow. Good so wrong. It's no good. Let's get this feedback. We have this week. This is from Thomas Alton on the same lines of what we were just talking about. So Lydia has been watching Daryl and Alpha from afar to see which side she belonged on. Does that mean that she saw Alpha and Megan from last episode? Because if so yikes what has been up to and also how much time has passed since like Lydia piece out of there a couple of days. She seems she seems pretty clean and fed so she's been paying out in the woods for a couple of days that I guess I don't feel like she's been on enough of a journey of self discovery yet to decide. I think that I think she does feel some loyalty to Daryl and I think that's like the one person she'd come across. She wouldn't just ignore him. Yeah but maybe all she needs to do is like go back to the whispers spy on them for like five minutes. Yeah I don't WanNa do that. Yeah it could be like well. I guess I'll go back to my mom now. Oh wait no. I remember what all this is like. It's like when you go away to college. I was just GonNa new yet. Then you're like you really homesick and then you go back for the holidays and like bright around New Year's Eve you're like no okay. I'm ready to go back to college. Now Yeah your favorite pizza places starbucks. Now nothing's the same. Yep You can't go home again. Corporate America's taken over Andrew writes in and says I had the same question. That Gabriel did did Alpha really move the entire horde from the field to the cave just before they got there without Mary even knowing it or did marry no and she sent them to a trap and now feels bad about it. Just that we get any clarity on this do we. I think that Berry just got like punked right now. Mary knew that was going into the cave. Okay it was and it was not a trap per se. It was more like. I don't think anybody was setting anything up. There's there like who would be stupid enough to run after US and go into a cave. Yeah I don't think anybody I don't think anybody who's counting on Carol being that dumb in that hot headed so I think they just got very very lucky. Yeah that's likely and I think Mary's been pretty upfront with field and she moved it a phoebe. Nugent says Beta is cool after getting shot in the chest but gamma is knocked out just by being tripped. Ella Mayo okay. Yeah people get knocked out a lot on this show and I feel like maybe they don't have a good Dhiraj consultant on their Zombie. Show because you get you get cold cocked enough times like that is severe brain damage like you are not okay. Yeah Yeah I think eventually like that starts to take a toll. Yeah I mean that you Parkinson's that's how you get part. How many times do you have to get knocked out before you just become Zombie Yourself? That's a good question. I think one of these times like you get knocked down and you don't get up again. They are going to keep you down. Yep speaking of which Kelly Lynch they couldn't shoot Beta again to make sure he was dead. Couldn't they use one more bullet at close range? It could have Kelly But then Beta would be dead and that would be bad for the show it would have been the ultimate great death if tiny judith. Grimes took out Beta. I'm sorry I would love that. Everything about that is great. Not to spoil game of thrones but like do. We still feel like unsatisfied. Aria didn't fight. The mountain is like that I think. Are you got to kill somebody? Pretty cool at a shoe. I thought you were going with that. Like where people unhappy with. That might not be without a thought. Great some people were unhappy with then they can whatever you know you know. They can added to the list of grievances with the final season. Of Game of thrones but one thing I liked. Say like you'd have to for me. You'd have to put that very far back as I agree. I think that was one thing. So we're Tony's Stony Baloney rates in so from episode seven to episode ten. Two days have passed too damn days. Are we disappointed? That time seems to be slowing down here for the whisper. Wars this making sense to you jess I feel like every time they get into war time just slows down to a crawl. It's like I feel like Einstein would have a lot to say about the relativity of the walking dead because it's like peacetime. Nothing much is happening fast. Forward six years. Yeah don't worry about that nothing happened. Oh but it's war so now we're going to spend three days on one season and it was maddening when it took us four years to get through the entire savior war and I do not want a repeat of that. I want us to defeat the whisperers this season. And if they don't do that I'm going to be. I would have a really hard time. Come back to the shy. They're going to do it. Don't you know you take the whisperers are dealt with this season or do you think that this is going to be a huge long thing? That's going to go into seasonal ebb. We're not doing spoiler. We're not doing a comic book zone this week. But there's not that much more that happens with whispers in the comics like they would have to seriously stretch it out to add a whole dimension. The show has done before but they've also made things shorter like the prison. Arc is so much shorter on the show than it wasn't the comics like in the comics. It's it's a defining part of like the first fifty issues of the comic. You'll say yeah but they cut out all the parts where everybody was having sex with each other turned out to only about five ish. That's right that's right a lot of that forgot about all the prison days. Yeah so we'll see we'll see. I think that this episode had some cool stuff in it I think that like the slasher aspects were. It was really fun to see walking dead kind of shift into that Sort of genre playfulness. But I think that from a story perspective and moving the plot forward like you said like very slight jess and and I think that that is symptomatic of like. We're probably at a point in the war. Between the whisperers the Alexandrian that things need to escalate quickly in the real time. And that could mean that we're going to get like a bunch of slower episodes as a result. I am a little bit concerned about that. Yeah I mean even. I'm not even sure that they have enough material to last a whole season half. Yeah so there's going to be. There's going to be a lot of this kind of thing and that's why. I think I think next week. We kinda see. We're going to backup one of our last scenes. We saw this episode. We see Erin roll up and everyone's like didn't you have a bunch of other people with you and earns like yeah. We all got separated. I feel like we're not gonna let that comment go unchecked. I mean you can take it at face value in base it on what we already know where. Magnin Connie are trapped inside the caves also by the way new listener. Barb SHADOW TO BARB. Who wrote in and said that. Magnus actions in the cave towards the end of the episode were one hundred percent consistent because she's always solidly supported her group. It's why it's Magnus Group. So shout out to barb for that observation we could just take. Aaron's words as we lost two people but is there a darker story right? Yeah but where are the people that we didn't see him like Jerry? Out of frame is at a frame carols out of frame. Kelly's out of frame could be that. Like Darrell went rogue we lost Daryl to it could be that or are we actually gonNA be in for a curveball and something horrible happen to one of Carol Jerry or Kelly a hopefully not but I guess it's possible. Anything is possible in this in this brave new world. Josh do have more feedback. I have one more tiny pieces. Do It all right. So the scene after all of the people that Beta killed reanimate and they're walking. He lets him out of the House so they can start like chasing people down. You see a shot of them walking down the street which is very eh living dead and here to yell walkers and somebody else says. They took off down Morgan Street. That is that the Morgan with the Cross Street of Easy Street. I believe yeah I think you cannot name a St Martins Andrea. Yeah you. You can't name a street. Easy Street without triggering Daryl. Yeah Morgan Street is Steph. We named after Morgan. Do you think that all of the streets of Alexandria named after people who are dead on when they certainly have enough people who are dead? I probably have more people than streets. Yeah which street would you wanNA live on if we're name if we're living on streets named after dead walking dead characters? I'd like to live on T. Dog Avenue. He dog avenues. Pretty good I wanNA live on Deanna. Dr Deanna drive is good data jive but be alright Hersal place yeah personal place. That's a good one. No Elaine Elaine. No lame could be good a the Glenn. I think it's just the Glenn that's like a cool hip neighborhood in Alexandria. Is that where the coffee shop is? Yeah lots a hipster is hanging out and the Glenn. There's an Artisanal Cola. Coal fired oven pizza joint. In honor of his pre apocalypse career people wear eye patches. They're cool nod. To the fact that Glenn lost an eye before he died ghoulish. It was weird. It's very weird down there. Yeah but I don't think the good pizza at the Glen but I don't know that I'd WANNA lose. They're probably not you just want to visit there sometimes and it's nice to have friends who live there so that you have to hook up without having deal with all the other stuff Yeah a Axel Avenue. That would such a deep hole for talk about the prison Shane Street. There's a lot of a lot of different places you could live in. Alexandria feel like Shane. Street is one of the streets. Used to be called before. Rick petitioned to have it. Renamed reminders of Shane anywhere. All right we'll be back next week. More walking dead as we're truck it through the back half of season ten here. Send US your feedback. No spoilers in the feedback please post show recaps on twitter at Ron Howard at Haymaker Hattie as well TWA at push a recap sitcoms. Our email address a subscribe to what we're doing here. Poster RECAPS DOT com slash. 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195: Ilan Israelstam  The inner workings of an ETF manager

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195: Ilan Israelstam The inner workings of an ETF manager

"Chat was tried as as brought to by coin. Flex who as you probably know by now are a great support of this podcast? But more saw a bright exchange for traders and institutions participating in the crypto market as you'll discover coin flex have built a robust reliable and a trusted futures exchange that continues to evolve. Guy Register for a free account at coin. Flex DOT com slash chat also chat with China's is proudly backed by top step F X. And if you'd like someone to back you as a traitor than get familiar with top step because that is precisely what they do start. The top step trading combine proved profitability manage risk and get funded account visit top step fx DOT COM and. Use The code chat for ten percent off since market speculation and risks. This is the chat with traders podcast hosted by Erin Fifield. What's up and welcome? Ladies and gents this is episode. One hundred and ninety five and I'm joined by Alon. Israel stem allowance a CO founder of a straighten. Atf manager Beta shares and a principal at VC firm. Apex Capital Partners Beta she. I began trading in two thousand ten and currently manages approximately ten billion dollars in assets across sixty one funds all of which trade on the Australian Securities Exchange or. I sex my idea of asking. Alon to be on. The podcast was really just learn a bit more. `Bout how. Atf manages operate and to delve into some of the technical aspects of ATF's to this isn't supposed to be like an intro to ATF's top of episode. Hopefully you'll gain some deeper inside included in the topics we chat about Risks for ATF manages how ATF manages. Mike money the important role if designated Mark Micheals how short and leveraged. Atf's tried as intended tips for investing in ATF's and research for ideas for trading in ATF's now have to sign. It was Kinda funny listening back to this interview because we reference Beta shares oil. Atf several times and as we recorded this April fifteenth it was before crude oil futures went negative Say following this pretty significant event Beta shares oily tiff actually took on a similar path to USSR. Us Ari Behn the largest ATF in the US with oil exposure. That must've of your probably familiar with And it took on a similar path in the sense that Beta shares also changed its underlying strategy. It went from holding the front contract to holding contracts further out the curve in order to lessen the risk if the fund blowing up sorry in hindsight perhaps an oily tiff was not the best example to use but nevertheless if you are interested to know a bit more about this of included an article link in the shower nights plus Alon also shared with me several articles that expand on a whole bunch of the topics that we covered on this episode to all of which can be found in the nights at chat with tried is dot com slash. One nine five and that is oh Fox. Hit Is Alon Israel stem for episode one hundred and ninety five a sore an article pop up in my twitter feed today that. Beta sh is the The beer ATF. That you offer had the highest volume night. What was it the highest most popular traded? Atf during March. That's right yeah. That's pretty Tonight I was going to say it's pretty cool. But they look at it. That's cool that actually try to more than tell started really. That's crazy. Incredible would earn along. What were the numbers around it about? Two billion two billion dollars traded for the month of March so on some days it was trying to more than Telstra regularly. So yeah that's ward at big numbers. Isn't it before Beta? Show is if I understand correctly founded or CO founder and Beta shares around two thousand. And ten what you doing before this is before I got involved in starting Beta says I was actually a management consultant so I was working for a company in the Boston. Consulting group will see Jay It's allied strategy consulting firm that typically does work full Level people in organizations usually quite large organizations helping them think through big strategic problem such as should we enter this country. How do we probably we probably go about launching? This particular product and I was spending a lot of my time in financial services space but before that I'd always been entrepreneurial so I've always been doing entrepreneurial activities throughout my life all the way back from a young kid in remember my brother and I set up a little mini Gulf stand in our backyard for the neighborhood kids to come and play and we charged them you know I think ten cents or whatever time so an entrepreneurial component spend some time doing all the bits and pieces of my businesses. I said I went to China actually and spent a whole lot of time. There were set off by a media. Aren't business then. That particular business was built bride about the time of the other large crisis. Busy recording this during the coronavirus process but The that business of mine was built during the other large crosses the global financial crisis a GMC. And so just at the time when I was about to essentially close the deal in a very large amount of financing equity financing the Global Financial Crisis. It an echo pulled from under me that which was not so fun but that experience was very pretty instructive and helped me to think about all sorts of entrepreneurial activities and so when. I came back to Australia after basic Jay and after the Chinese experience I connected up with a few friends that I'd nine from university and we saw to work together. And that was the genesis of in all of. Beta sheds I also still maintain involvement in an investment company. Kodi Tech's capital partners. Which is essentially a venture capital stock company that provides funding to early stage companies in and around the financial services spices. Well so yeah. Financial Services is my mind has always been my main activity And so with those two activities Beta shares was born. Actually out of the out of the global cross in many ways Where things were changing. A lot of the In the industry the Wealth Management Industry and we saw the opportunity and in what is known as exchange traded funds which. I'm sure we'll talk. More about and exchange traded funds were growing very fast over in the US. But in Australia when we when we were looking at starting Beta says it was a very small very tiny little market. I think it had about five billion dollars in total and way decided that there was an opportunity to build out in Australia and focused specialist exchange-traded Funds Business Really tailored to the needs of Australian investors and focus on those needs a competitors very large global financial institutions who are incredible businesses but don't necessarily focus only on Australia and the native all investors. We thought it was an opportunity. We really liked the space. The space it was a very fast growing industry. For a number of reasons the writing was on the wolf for that to continue and we thought we had the chance to be able to build out of business and since then it's been It's been a good gritty growth. Great Growth Path. Where the last about nine years when we started off. I fund at the very end of two thousand ten. So it's about nine nine and a half years now since we started a Beta sheds. Think you did well to foresee that. The rise of popularity in. Atf would come to fruition. It seems like such a big thing to take on like. Where do you even begin when you decide that you're going to launch an ETF management company? Well just like anything you you research the markets you understand what's involved in starting one up. You obviously have to have faith in yourself that you or your partners have got the abilities to actually build out this business and that's important because it is it is quite a technical space. It is one that in button does require web of knowledge about the regulatory environment about things like the way in which funds a bullet sold in the way in which you get your funds exposed to investors of all sorts whether there'd be end investors or visor investors etcetera so. We might my partners and I had had some background in financial services. It wasn't the first time we've been looking at the spice of that helped a lot And then you when you think about actually setting up the business you think about what sort of business you WANNA be. What is your Sustainable Competitive Advantage? And as I said for us we pull the wild about competitive advantages was that we were going to be specialists. And we were going to only focus on the small country of Australia Because for the other players in the space it's very small part of their whole map if you think about them looking at the global portfolio strategy is going to be a tiny part of it but before us we knew the spice was big superannuation industry was lodged. The self managed superannuation industry was growing financial advisers. Are Part of the spicier as well and so we looked at all those things and and thought that this is all coming together very nicely for what looks to be something that will. There'll be business and then you know it's all about thinking about the products themselves so you know which product should be launched but we were lucky because when we launched the the business they really want to many options out there. Ats It was probably twenty. Also now there's over two hundred so we had a huge amount of space to fill and we ended up doing quite well by building out on a pretty big range of funds. And we've now got sixty one. Actually we've got sixty one. Etf We managed a ten billion dollars now so that was a great path and a lot of came back to the usual thing. Thinking about your core competencies thinking about what your strengths are at a at a personal level. I'm thinking about where the market's headed and where it's where it is now where it might be headed and all those things were very positive for the ATF. Industry and I think that's coming true. So the pajamas to it. When we started shadow there was as I mentioned. Five billion dollars in assets invested in. Ats in Australia is now about sixty billion so And we've been lucky to be taking a good share of that growth down every year since we've been in the market and those sixty one. Atf's which if issued they all trading on Isaac's that's right. Yeah so all of that. Funds up bought and sold like to share on the sex. Answer that SORTA. Etf as it needs to yes is managed fund that can be bought and sold like an ETF ETF stands for exchange traded. Funds can be bought and sold like I like a share. That means you don't have to fill out any paperwork as you would. Any traditional manage fund is no minimum investment levied by bias. And so you combined Selah at any time during the trading day and ats now the onto the topic. A typically index tracking funds not always that typically index tracking funds. So they typically I am to track. An Index. Most index indices can be of many many shapes and sizes but now simple example. You WANNA get exposure to the technology sector and one of the most people would have heard of the Nasdaq. One Hundred Nasdaq. One hundred is the largest one hundred companies that trade on the next exchange in the US and they involve the large global technology stocks. Google out now called alphabet but Google Microsoft Net flicks Amazon apple so instead of going ahead and buying those individuals securities you could buy an index tracking funds. And that's what needs is so we got the Nasdaq one hundred eighty ethel example the end. Q. Soup by using the code. Indicate and that gives you exposure to those technology stocks are and allows you to to get exposure to what you want a simply as buying a ship not necessarily only getting a single shares explosion and typically because the index tracking funds. They're much lower cost than traditional manage funds that you would have heard about that a managed by these star investment pickers who pick pick stock CETERA. We typically just tried to to managed to an index right. So I obviously have a lot of questions around this a lot of maybe technical questions around your role as now. Let me just correct before we proceed too much further cooling you. Atf manager is that thraw term like what is Beta. Shays executive brought terminology. That's right so we are a fund manager specializing in exchange traded funds. That's the exact terminology. Okay so let's get started on this. Let's get down into the Nitty Gritty One of the first things I wanted to bring up with you around. This is talking a little bit about risk so your raw as ATF. Manager and I guess you can sort of partially speak for any ATF manager. Really what risks are you vulnerable to in the position of a manager? Yes clarify again. We the fund manager off the exchange traded funds. We manage sixty one of them at the moment at a wool socks in sizes so that not only share our into equities are entity S. We've bonded with bought We've got shares the ATS. That's each. Yes that I am to provide exposure to the gold price with ATS to provide exposure to the crude oil futures price. We've got funds that are aimed to actually go up when the market comes down which the short the short funds that we have. So that's our goal is to is to allow investors essentially are icing investment tools for investors to basically back there. You'll take a view on whatever it is that we provide a net exposure to so what we don't do unlike hats on mandate who've come on your show on manage that you'll listen. This would be familiar with we. Don't try to out the full particular index like the ASX. Two hundred necessarily we we we we we as the easiest provider are the ones that are pulling together these investment products for you to use for your run portfolios so in terms of risks to be honest. There's no specific extra risks that we would be exposed to there's an ETF manager up above and beyond the risk of any other About Meta as an investor in. Etf There's also no extra risks that you take on investing in an ETF beyond the risk you take on investing in in the F. itself will find itself so Farrah's what makes the business tick is the funds on a management. So we get paid a very often a very modest fee for every dollar that we have under management. That's what makes the business tick so risk wise for us. Frankly not a huge them out. It's all about the investors the movement in the underlying investments which will call the risks. So of course know if you choose to invest in products that are very volatile you know where the underlying index is very volatile for example now take the current. Makalu recording this in the middle of April two thousand and twenty. The car market decree the crude oil. Well this is going nuts you know. Oil Price was below twenty dollars at one point. So that's a highly volatile so therefore you're going to have risk on that particular investment but simply that's the the investment choice you have made or for example. The US did some of the geared funds we. Have you get much more risk associated with being in a geared position but but no there's no additional risk as such that? We are responsible for the we are vulnerable to and so no. I think that that would be the way I'd answer that question. You don't need to look any different from any other on managing mess button to so much rephrase that question a little bit. I guess it's a slightly different question actually as the manager to what extent a you concerned about the ATF. Process you know. Let's just pick on The oil example which you spoke about so obviously as a trade or invest as someone who buys guys long that which has exposure to oil If that goes down in prostate obviously that's nor ideal bit as a manager. Someone like yourself if the the process of that for the price of oil decreases further. What sort of position does that put you in a few an advantage disadvantage our the way? We're not really at an advantage disadvantage either way. Ultimately we need to make sure that funds providing you as an investor with the objective that we have set out so in the case of the the Crude oil futures product. It gives you exposure to the price of crude oil futures if the price of crude oil futures goes down then it should be expected by invest and we expect that that the the ship the unit price with ETF prosecutor will go down so we the only reason why we would mind as such is because because it means that if the asset value goes down and so too does our assets management but again that's just the nature of being in the market. We've done we can't control that so we can control as making sure that the invested gets what they are after and if they have chosen to invest in oil on the price of oil is fallen and obviously they should not be upset to know that the ETF price with full that's Signed awful and we need to make sure that we're providing exposure and then on the other hand. We just need to make sure that these products do it. I say on the tin. And that's that's the way really spend time thinking about so we're not. We can't control that. We can't control the fact that we want people to Invest Funds. So so of course were out there. Educating the market and whether that be financial advisers will end investors about ats and clearly. We want to get people to invest in any as an industry but we do that because we think that it is really for most investors of very sound way to get started in the investment industry. Indeed even if you're not a beginner to trade your view of the particular of a particular exposure so if you feel any adverse impacts from this recent market downturn actually we have not had any adverse impacts we are. We are a very diversified as business. We mentioned before we've got sixty one funds and Importantly it's said before those funds do not only cover hsieh's so they do not only cover shares as a result of that. We've got bond cash. So what generally that means is that just like having a very diversified portfolio almost independently of the market conditions. They will be something that does well. And they'll be something that does less well L. businesses like a microcosm of that and So as a result of that we have of course seen pretty significant fools in the value of AL share rented funds. But at the same time we've had other products such as the ones that go up when the market goes down at of Rosen risen tremendously in value so we are ultimately in a pretty similar position that we were before this all started And most importantly of all funds have been able to do what they said they were GONNA do. And that's really what we can most about. They've been able to give people those exposures with exposes a positive or negative. They have done what they're sort of produced to do in the first place. Yeah so because the big thing for you is the amount of the assets under management. You've probably seen some money shifting out of some products but because you have so many to offer that money flows into other products instead of just Being pulled out altogether. That's exactly right. And in particular given the current democracy volume and I'll repeat we're in the middle of March two thousand and twenty depending one when somebody comes to listen to this things. Were you know? We're in lockdown mode at the moment. And so hopefully by the time somebody comes back to. This listened to it in three months time we went be but in particular we have seen people selling out though fixed income and buying into equities. People seem to be thinking in particular with Australia. Equities actually we've been seeing outstretched inequities funds being bought fairly heavily and fixed income funds. Being sold out okay interesting now just to pick up on that point of assets under management pain a big thing for your business. Can you just explain that a little more? Like why's that K to your source of revenue the way which. Ats manager earns a living if to take a fee for funds under management. So what happens is there's a fee that renders dramatically depending on what the particular. Atf is where every day out of the unit price. They will be a tiny amount that comes out in the form of say so that is a way in which an ETF manager exists that is the essentially the reason for full That is the way in which the the revenue line of an ETF manager actually operates. So that is why. So if there is more funds on a management then each of those obviously they'll be more face to collective left there'll be less face collect to. That's that's the reason now. How does it try to or an invest actually see those fees last the good thing it they don't it just it just comes out you know? It's laissez faire was ten. We call basis points. Zero Point one zero percent for the year. That means that every day ten divided by three hundred sixty five ten basis points to to buy three hundred sixty five being the number of days would come out of that of that unit price. That's pretty much undiscernible. Twin investor. Actually have to pay. It just comes out of the of the unit price every day. 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So if you are participated in the crypto market. I think it would be wise if you to take a look at coin. Flex Gar Register for a free agent at coin flex dot com slash chat left. Ask you a few questions. Every and the holdings understanding how you manage the underlying underlying securities of the ATF's that you provide so as a manager. How do you decide when to add or remove securities from an ATF? And maybe it might be helpful for the these blinds have questions if we pick an example so if we may be focused on your oil or your gold. Etf I presume with your oil or even Goldie tiff at might earn like Fifty Different Gold. Companies public publicly traded gold companies as well as maybe some exposure to the actual commodities. Is that right? So it's not quite right so again with sixty one different funds we have whole Ryan so the Gold Gold Bullion Fund and literally that owns gold bullion. It actually owns physical hod gold in a volt in London. So obviously in that case there's no decisions about taking out any securities is just. It's just go. That's we providing you with exposure to goals as CO Q. At you that one you get exposure to the price of gold that went as currency hedge over it so you don't have to worry about the price of US dollars the Australian dollar. So that is that one. It couldn't be more simple in a way. We just basically by as much gold as people have invested in the fund. We on the other hand to us. Continue with the same own-goal we do have a gold mine is ETF and that's M. S. as it turns out that's the name of the tax cut so that one so that one does own the world's largest gold mine is companies go mining companies asserted an extra fund. So it doesn't include Australian Gold Monitor. It includes go Montas excluding Stralia and that now this will give give us an ounce gio question so the as I mentioned before the vast majority of ETF track an index so when we talk about the gold miners ETF and what we are what we are bond there. We have buying the underlying gold mining companies that are part of an index an index credit by by provider at particularly indexes credit. Pravada NASDAQ NASDAQ index. Business I've got a series of indices that track gold mining companies. And so we actually again do not make the decision as to win as to which particular goal modest by we track that index in its entirety. So what that means is that these indices often do what's known as rebalance so that could be an annual quarterly or semi annual rebalance and that is the time in which we gave him that we are trying to track that index. We will buy and sell those particular. Those particular securities to to be in line with the underlying index so maybe too much simpler example example that people will understand the X. Two hundred six two hundred. We've got a fund that has exposed to the largest two hundred companies on the Essex Code I e two hundred so what we do we basically will buy all those two hundred companies that part of the ASX. Two Hundred Index. That six hundred index will rebalance itself regularly. I believe it might be might be quarterly in that particular case what will happen is that companies that are no longer part of the largest. Two hundred companies will will move out of the index companies that have grown and have become pilot. Two hundred index will enter the index and we essentially make those same trades on that day of the rebound so those that is the way in which we decide. We don't actually decide. I guess the point is there isn't any discretion what goes into that particular product though. It's it's more like we are acting on a set of rules set by an index provider. And we are providing that bacteria as an investor. So you're GONNA have to rebalance you don't have to go through the list of the top two hundred and decide what What is right and what is wrong. We will do that for you. And we will take care of all that tried in suggests. I understand correctly across the sixty one products that you offer. There's no real decision making from your part as to what the underlying securities that's right the decision making on Al Pop on the passive funds. Al Come back to one one. Quick one issue on that on the passive funds that decision that we make is a which product to launch and then which index we should be tracking and at times we will even help create that index but once that once those index rules have been created and published by third party. Our role in those Passan's is to is to provide access to those particular those particular companies. Now saying that we do have a range of active. Atf's by which there is somebody making a decision about what to buy and what to sell but we do not as it turns out. We do not make those decisions ourselves. In most cases we've partnered with a third party on manager and that fund manager will be the one who makes the decisions in case we are providing investors with a actively manage portfolio where somebody is making those decisions and we are provided in that to them in the CFO but ATF. Rapa a understood when you do reap balance that site the Essex. Two Hundred Index The ATF which trucks that win you. rebalance your exposure to the underlying securities at the end of each quarter. How you executing those traits like you trading throughout the die or are you doing most of this sort of the pre or post market match it be at the end of mock it will be the end of day. I would be trying at typically at the end of Diet and we've got a portfolio management team. Whose role is to do that and they they would do it. Typically the at the end of the day. And how do you determine how much of the underlying securities to hold on your side again? Let's stick with this example of the Essex two hundred here grant. How do you decide you know how many shares of HP you need to hold how many shares of Rio WESTPAC ETC? Yeah okay. So that's that is. A result of what is known as the sort of the index methodology will the index rules. So taking the two hundred and two simple nice. I think good and simple example. The way that particular index is set up is that it is based on the market cap of those two hundred stocks essentially. It is the largest hundred stocks whitehead. We call it weighted by their market CAP. So that you know we will. We will calculations done to say that. And I'm looking at it today yesterday. Turns out at CSL because of how everything's been going in the health guests by is the largest company on that six two hundred. Let's say that. Csl has a ten percent white out of the two hundred companies if you look at their Maka Cap. Csl represents ten percents of the white of the total two hundred companies. So we will simply just by. Did we know how much we've got invested in ATF? We will simply make sure that we have ten percent of that invested in CSL. And then we'll go down the list Bank of Australia. Seven percent they had to pay six percent etc etc so we will essentially be using the whiting methodology that has been created by the index provider to decide how much to buy. And in this case. It's simply Maka cap and other cases variety of different things. You can use to decide those waiting so you can use an equal white. Who wanted to or you could use whites based upon the fundamental values of a company or you could use whites based on a scoring methodology and again with sixty one different funds. We've got a variety of different ways. And we do that but it. Typically Martha capital is the most used the used way. She methodology suggest. Simple numbers here. Let's say her one million dollars invested in Your Essex. Two hundred eighty at the end of the quarter and the guidelines would ten percent to be invested in say-so so you would buy one hundred thousand dollars worth of say-so essentially be that's right. That's right. Yeah that's what we do and we would now make sure that that is where it goes at the rebalanced dight. We would make sure that if she s. Csl had attempt watch we we we at might show. We had ten percent or inaccurate under thousand dollars portfolio in CSL now during the quarter overseas. It's trading each day the funds under management for that particular. Atf is increasing decreasing. Do you then you then required to increase your holdings Throughout the quarter or decrease your holdings throughout the quarter yes of course so if the ETF is growing in value we'll have to obviously buy more shares but was still going to be blinding him in the proportions that are that the proportions associated with that index white. So so we'll still be following the index whites. We'll just be buying more depending on how much money to so. We're always always buying the same amount pro across those paraded across does whites and of course the index themselves will change diaper dyke is to share prices to changing the time so we just make sure we're following that index methodology clerk Catholic. And how often do you guess trying to keep the market cap correct but every time that every time that somebody that how? Etf GROWS in value. And that can have. That can't happen every day. We will be trading more securities to to to to make sure that we have got the right amount of percentage white given out providing funds on the management. Okay so it would that. Just be something you'd do. At the end of the day it is. Kinda go certainly. Yes it is. Yes Yeah Kelly. And what about creating new units were shares like of the ATF? How does that bit work? Yeah Gripe so. We haven't spoken about the fact that ETF have to markets. What I'm GonNa just get a little bit technical but a truncated a simple as possible so the when you all invest the end investor is is looking at their concept screen interactive brokers or whatever they used to invest that is known as the secondary market so essentially out there buying and selling units on the so-called secondary market. You're buying and selling those units either from another. Etf investor themselves all from a market maker so market makes pretty important part of the ats ecosystem and in many ways You know they are critical to the Rut of the to the running of the at the same time part of this success because the market makeup is is an institution and I think you might have. Even if I'm not mistaken may have spoken to some in the past on your program is an institution who is there to create liquidity or to create buying cells and depth in the industry and they made their money from taking a tiny little clip of every time somebody buys or sells from them so that online whether that being both from from they just want to make a try. They're all about volume and so they in order to launch. Etf You have to have a market maker and dedicated in typically. Have many more than one? That is there to be able to be ready to buy and sell from an end investor at any time during the trading day and so as I mentioned before when you are trading as an ETF invest you buying or selling either from another fellow eds investor all amok at mica and that means the reason that's important is that those not to make a there to provide liquidity to allow you to buy and sell anytime you want to try and they also are there to to ensure that the price that you have. Is You know being bought or sold to close to the underlying fair value that ETF so to get back to it. That is that is what we call the second market now. The primary market is is us. We are trading not with ending vessels but with a small number large institutional players is of the big guys that you would have heard of the Deutsche Bank. The Morgan Stanley Goldman Sachs Etcetera. Who become what are known as authorized participants but essentially that institutional brokers and they are the ones who will are there to really to essentially create these units. Create these units from us. So let me give you an example if they let's say for example back to the ASX two hundred fund if there is more demand than sitting there will missed out of the fun they created. They said to us we would like to become an authorized participant foyer and as a result of that we would like to start with. Let's say ten million dollars off of a two hundred units and we're going to be on the market buying and selling those units throughout the trading day now if there more demand than there is supply or is the demand is increasing at the end of the day that particular mock Mike America make. We'll say to us. Hey We know that we're going to need more of this. So we need to create more units. We need to create more units. They will essentially say we need to create more units. Here's the money. We know that we know that we gonNA have this demand because we've had a whole lot of investors Buying from us. Here's the money we we we will take that money will go ahead of the end of the dam by those two hundred chess and then we'll essentially pass on a package of units in a two hundred back to those NOCCO Mak- so that the next day they can stop trying them on the screen again. And so this is what's called an open ended fund and the reason why it's really important is because it means that it doesn't matter how many people are buying or selling that doesn't affect the price of the on any given day what matters is just the fact that there is a. Maka there who is able to whenever they want to create more units and the same time redeem units if for example supply is more the demand or if there's a lot of people selling not buying so that's that is how we essentially grow the that is how we create new units in the ATF. It's sort of invisible in many ways to the end investor. Will they see is that there's more there's more units on the on issue than they were before before that by from from the perspective the easier if industry it's a critical part of of the proper functioning of the Jeff's themselves so the number of units were not available bit which consists of in is that generally always governed by the market mica the the number of ETF number of ETF units is really governed by the demont the demand so when an ETF launches it it might launch with a very small amount of amount units. It could be as little as five two three four five million dollars to get started but that next day that very first day there's a whole lot of trading in that. Ats than quite simply that that mock of Mica could go ahead and create more units. We take as I mentioned. Before we take those funds we buy the underlying shares we pass on these units and learn behold there might be double the number of units that second day. So that's what drives. The number of units outstanding is is essentially demand Bob fulfill that particular for that particular exposure. I'm glad you brought up the point about the market. Mike is because that is something I wanted to ask you about. Could you just speak to that relationship of little bit more like? Let's say you are launching a new product up regime. One of the things which is very important is having the liquidity do you like contract Amok Mica to support this product. Or how does that work would? Yeah that's that's essentially right so first of all. I will say that you're right when we think about building a new product of all we obviously go through very detailed process to think about whether to launch in the first place take also the information from around the world what investors the telling us. What I'll sell him is telling us what's happening in the unlisted fund spice. What's happening overseas and at obviously we need to make sure that we think we can Saladin and there's going to be demand for it once. That's all done. We actually make liquidity very very central to our effort because the whole point of ATF. Is that the tea. An ETF is tradable right. Etf Exchange Traded Fund. There's no point creating a fund if it comp sort of easily born solve by the end invest all the mountain. Make us so we. We think very carefully about that and you are one hundred percent right that the way in which we get one started. Ats Dot a one thousand nine that come up with index chosen on index set fees etc. Once we bunches Donald that we absolutely do make sure that they will be at least one particularly multi mock and Mike is who are signed on as official market makers for those sponsor they do actually sign a market maker agreement so that we know that will be there to offer liquidity. And the only reason they would do that is because they have got away first of all. I need to slow things that that particular. Atf is going to gonNA tried well and that means that make some some some money on that and also? They need to make sure that it's going to be liquid out so that women out there sell it. Sort of offering offering units to the market often prices to the they can adequately hedge themselves in the back end and back can't do that. If the actual underlying exposure is very illiquid so we do have great relationships with these mock and makers and we spend a lot of time fostering those relationships in fact we would say it's a source of competitive advantage for us We keep we keep up with them all the time. We have allies number relationships. We joined the trading day on making sure that during that said they're doing. Nfl Not will give them a nauseous. I hey listen you could do a better. You could bring the price in a bid or you could increase the volume so that Machen Michael relationship is critical. And you're one hundred percent right that you really can't stops a an. Etf without a map maker relationship to begin with. And what are some of the things which you might stipulate with Amok Mike so they might need to be you know? The spread cannot be so wide or they must be quoting ninety percent of the time or like. What are some of the things which you specify with the Mark Mike? Yeah so there's A. There's a list of rules that a designated by the ASX. So those are the basic rules that stipulate that you have to exactly that you have to be on screen x percent of the time you have to keep spreads which is the difference between the buy and the sell price to a certain level. I'm sure being trading oriented podcast you basically with with spreads so those types of things but in practice we actually got lost the than that and we. We asked him in particular. What sort of a spread? I think they're going to be quoting. And that's incorporated out in in our discussions with them so you know there's usually this minimum threshold. We always try to bring it in a lot more. And you'll see that across the board really in Australia. Those market makers are doing a pretty good job are providing very very tight spreads around the knives and they are onscreen most of the time if not all the time and and so those are the types of things we think about until with an dealing with mop and Michael. Do you ensure products such as your short and you'll leveraged work as intended and what I mean by that is like got the ice. Ix Two hundred. Atf There's also a short version of that so if someone buys that it's it's the post track. The is six hundred bit inverse. So that fought those funds you referring to our short short range of funds. And they're the ones that were talking about before that abandoned silently insanely popular in this race in time period said we saw in the as you said one of those funds which is b o said the leverage short fund over the six. Two hundred has You know had recorded by the largest amount of trading out of any. Etf Australia in the month of March of two thousand and twenty. So that was the two-billion-dollar so first of all let's just discuss a little bit about those funds. How they actually I might because I think that will help. Answer the question show how made and as a difference between the ones that are short and the ones that long so firstly. I A formulate. Let's start with a short funds. I know that there's probably a good number of people that listen to this podcast of come across those funds. They are the the Beta she has bass sweet funds the most popular of. Which is that one. You mentioned the the B. B. Ozanam bear. The difference between them is that bear is an unleveraged short and Babia added leverage short product. So that's the difference. So those funds aim to provide to provide a negatively correlated exposure to the two hundred. So they're not aimed at at and to be directly inverse and explain why they into be on any given day. They aim to be inver- inverness to a particular Ryan Beth Fund on any given day looks to be provided short exposure that is between negative basically ninety two hundred ten percent so negative negative nine negative point nine to one point one of the six two hundred whereas the leverage short fund the BBC said Fund is is a leveraged fund as I said that aims to be leveraged short to arrange of negative two hundred two negative two hundred seventy five percents a two point seven five and two. So that's their purpose. People shouldn't expect him to be one for one over long periods of time. That's a daily. That's a daily sort of a daily objective. Now how they work is actually relatively simple for those who understand. What futures are we are? Essentially shorting the futures That are associated with particular exposure. So we've with a strategy and bear funds. Bbc's Adam Bear we shorting aspects two hundred futures for the BBC US on which sounds is a US exposure with shorting the S&P five hundred futures and in relation to the gearing. The way in which we deal with that that's just a question of opposition sizing so we're just making sure that on any given day that particular exposures is is in line with Acura in Russia. So that's that's that's how might And The for those funds that they do they say they're gonNA do because because it's very straightforward It's a very straightforward thing for us to where simply just buying the with shorting those spot futures at at that particular range negative nine to one point one and the way that works is that in order to keep things in range because we have a rain like that what we try to do is if any give we let the exposure run and if on any given day that exposure goes above Beyond death threshold that I mentioned we will rebalance back to the middle points of that exposure will rebound back now. That typically doesn't actually happen all that often except in very volatile markets. Now and the reason we do that is because if you don't do that you will leverage can go can get out of control. On essentially the whole point of these funds is to allow investors to invest knowing that they can't lose more than their initial capital is unlike. Cfda's things where you can know you can receive margin calls that you can lose more than you put in. These products are not meant to be taxing. That way that meant to be exposure that you do not have to worry about getting any module Kohl's and they're also exposure at any at any given time and investment come in and know what their existing But their existing leverages what there was this thing exposure level is so. That's that's how those funds are created the shore funds. And as you'd like I can talk about the long haired funds as well. We'll just before we do that. Yeah and forgive me if you've already explained this but yeah so the the long just a regular Essex two hundred ATF. Let's say the underlying futures up one percent. Then we'd expect that the ATF. Also goes up one percent correct. Yes that's right Yup the hundred. Ucf that doesn't us futures at all. That is actually buying the shares. It's actually find the chef. So there's no futures they had that just which is the reason why if will literally go up at that point. I'm less the less very small fade that I mentioned before of course Ikea. So in the case of the inverse eight year for the short ATF. Yes the underlying for that. You are short the futures. That's right so if the ASX two hundred at one percent then we'd expect the inverse ATF to go down one percent. We'll to go down between point nine to one point one percent a bit. My question is how do you control that? I mean sure you hold the underlying assets but the price is ultimately governed by tried is who in the market fraud at that point in time like a someone is is buying up or selling it. That's moving the process. How do you make sure that process in line with the underlying asset all simply because we are also only net underlying asset? We're just shorting it so so. It's mechanical isn't it? So if it doesn't matter what the underlying sx hunt Six hundred if we shorting that future than we won't we will provide you know a version of that negative version of that on that day at that at that particular amount so you say six hundred to go up as it has been your go up sometimes in a very large like five percent because because a whole lot of people are being sort of buying shares then so true should ETF be expected to go down by around about five percent on that given day but is there a chance at the ATF. Want like what if someone is in there and they're doing something crazy and the onus going to blackmore Brian to think about which side let's say the market is going up so the short atef should be coming down. Let's say someone is just got a lot of bids stacked they could essentially stop the ATF. Across from moving down one percent to be that direct inverse of what the actual market's doing arrived. Are you talking about a whole lot of people are buying a sort of putting a whole lot bit stat on the itself? Yes okay so that comes back to the fact that buying and selling the underlying. Etf has no impact on the price of the F. So that's the important thing to understand. It's not like a company where you know if there's a whole lot more buyers than there are cells of the price of that company will go up and that's because of that open ended nature that I mentioned so the the fact that it's open ended means that there's there's no relationship between how many people buying the ATF. And the price of that. Atf The underlying price of the security in this guy's it's a short short security but it really doesn't change the fact. It's that particular underlying judy price. That's that's changing the market. You can't game that Yukon game that because these are these are essentially instruments. That open ended. So if somebody was to if somebody was to put a crazy in a crazy price in there it simply wouldn't simply wouldn't be hit by that market. Mak- be hit by make a so so that is the whole that's the whole key of. Atf is that it is open ended and that open ended. Nature means that you can be quite sure that the price of these jeff is not in any way being affected by the buying and selling of the underlying a selling by the individual investors in their price. Interesting question because it's it's it's different to a stalk where if someone has a humongous bid at a certain process in the market's GonNa Struggle to get below that process a little bit into enough Sylla's willing to push through it doesn't it doesn't work that that at all and I said that that's because of the fact that it's open and because of the mock and makers of there and That just there's just no way to manipulate that that price by US needs to have otherwise it would be one of the easiest games in town. Isn't it so that's That's the way we've those particular. Those particular products work coach. Okay okay very very interesting but often wondered about that. Yeah Yeah so. The understand is that this open ended again. A lot of investors. Don't understand that that the amount of bids and offers you see on the screen and for that matter the amount of volume that goes through the ATF. On any given day is just the tip of the iceberg. If we wanted to somebody could go by. Essentially the amount of liquidity. Atf is only bound by the liquidity of the underlying securities which in the case of yes and P five hundred all this spot futures essentially very very very close to limitless so that open ended. Nature is the key difference between an e share And that's really means that as I said before those underlying prices are are A really only focused on beyond the line security prices not by themselves. Okay Yup and we see now when we talk about give mentioned it a couple of times he have like an ATF which will track the Nasdaq one hundred. How does the Nasdaq one hundred? Atf which is provided by Beta Shays which trades on the Australian market. How does that track? The Nasdaq one hundred in the. Us Win the hours. Don't align so the thing about the Nasdaq one. Hundred for example is that there's there's there's essentially twenty four hours just on that one hundred so while this is the case for any internationally T.F. Weather also by British as for that matter any other group in the world the way in which the Malcolm occur once again will set the prices of those internationally. Tef's is by by reference to the futures prices which live and which still take into account. No the last is trading in anything else that comes comes into the into the into people's minds Optima US and that's why it can. It can actually sometimes reflect pricing that things that haven't happened yet in the US and it was if something was released. Aftermarket for example. So it's actually quite a straightforward way In which in which those particular units in ETF oppressed that doesn't matter no matter which international ATF. You're looking at. It will will use futures full providing the process to investors. Just one other thing at she timmel things before we close this out. You often see numbers thrown around in headlines referring to inflows and outflows of. Atf's can you just explain that bid plays yes. I think people are interested in that because so what that means all just down to question what that means is how much so now flows really is how much net buying a net selling around the ATF's. That's that's actually the reaction by investors them the market the market movements so it's independent of the market movement is how much people buying this particular product and how much people are selling this particular product in dollars and that's what inflows and outflows means. And I think the reason why people are quite interested in those is because they can be a really good way to guys tonight gate sentiments for example if we are seeing as we are a whole lot of people buying into out short funds as I said that two billion dollars in the month of much that indicates the people the reason why that's reporter Ladas because that indicates that they will that there's a fair bearishness around in many ways it's one of the best ways to get of you on it quite at quite a granular level. What table thinking so innocent can be said for when we see people reporting that? There's been a whole lot of flows into let's say the infrastructure sector ATF or the resources sector it or all of our flows in the European. Etf What that essentially tells investors is that. Hey broadly speaking of you out there. That is bearish on for example. Europe whereas it's it's a whole lot of people buying healthcare. Etf's with that means that. Healthcare stocks are in our invoke so it's a way that people are increasingly using because easiest becoming to be such a big part of the environment now increasingly using those flows to indicate sentiments and to get a view on what you know what people are thinking in the investing world. That's kind of the main use for understanding that bid is just to get bit of a guy on the market sentiment. I think market sentiment and also just what's popular. What's not so I mentioned. There was a whole lot of inflows into Australian hsieh's ATF's in much whereas before there was a whole lot of influence into fixed income. So That's tells you that there's at least view out there by some people that might be worth buying Australian shares and dumb because it's don in that in that sort of broad format rather than sort of thinking about. Hey Sheila by. Hbo APPLE CBA. It's sort of indicates that there's a sentiment out there that says there might be an opportunity to buy the dip so I think I think that's right what you said. It is largely about sentiment. Just one last question before let Yari. Atf's often marketed as being a good investment tool. What are some tips for someone who is investing mining? Atf's for the long-term sunol. A lot of the things spoke about here kind of relate to trading in sort of more the technical part just for anyone who's also interested in investing for the longer term in whatever thirty year horizon etc. What are some tips you would give to someone before they put some money into a few? Atf's first of all the the fact that so many ETF's the fastest so many types of shapes sizes. We spoken about long. We've spoken about short. I should say that even though most people will view. Etf says as great long-term investors. And I think they really are. They are also really interesting. Why try views? Because essentially given all the things I've mentioned and I haven't even mentioned hospital but what's available that is currency ATF's eccentric CETERA. You can express a huge number of trading views of any sort whether it's like a relative value trade whether you're taking a particular sector view into account to a long short pairs tried you can do all that violates. Yes we haven't even mentioned the fact that you can take particular sector bets if you wanted to you know let's say you really like the cyber-security sector or the technology sector or the gold sector so you can definitely do trying to get back to your question you're right that at the hot the Voss majority of people who are getting started investing look to. Atf says a way to to get to generate long-term wealth. And I think if you're looking into that they're obviously a very good way to do that because at very low cost and the tips are really to not to keep things simple. Take a few building blocks that out. Typically highly diversified low in cost and stick with us and add to the so if you're in it as a long term investor another trader than the very opposite applaud. You don't WanNa over try it. He wanted to incorporate ruled building blocks. For let's say global HSIEH's some Australian shares paps adding some bonds to diversification benefits and with a few with a few Easy Trades. You'll basically have a highly diversified portfolio right there. Because if you think about it you'd have two hundred stocks in the Australia by global says. It's yet that could be many many thousands of. Ats Reality Bonding. They're all of a sudden with three trades. You might have twelve fifteen hundred things that you're exposed to so you super diversified and so the tip is to keep it simple like that ad over time we have a possible and stick with it. So don't let things like the current environment force you to sell you. Not You don't need to be a full Saleh. The only people that should be selling right now. Those F. for some reason need to what trading it if you are actually looking to generate long-term wealth and sticking to a in a simple low cost when Addington of time is super valuable and the other ways obviously. Just make sure you do things like you'll pay. You'll do distribution reinvestment. Plans they every time as a distribution. You Reinvest that rather than taking it out an overtime though generate wealth that way and finally it's always good to invest in things. You understand as well and that's for example we've seen a whole lot of people by things like the. Nasdaq BECAUSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND APPLE MAY UNDERSTAND AMAZON. Understand FACEBOOK ON THE UNDERSTAND. Google so so those will be the tips I would. I would say for those people that are long term investors. Don't get too hung up on showtime fluctuations build a coal and then once you've built a nice core then you can start playing around on the satellites with more somatic more West Tarik ideas but point is you got that great cool that is growing with you and essentially general met long-term wealth yourself as you mentioned it. I guess I'd better. Ascii trading some relative value strategies using trading relationships. That sort of thing. Are there any ideas you might just want to leave some listeners? With ideas that could go in and do their own research. Yeah of course so first of all you can take you on a particular sect on just simply so you know if you've got a view that debt for example in today's market the energy sector global energy said test being way oversold and you. WanNa take a view on on that you can invest in the global energy. Atf feel if you think on the other hand that things are still pretty dodgy. You might want to invest in gold or you might want invest in the gold miners. Atf The M M N R S go minds ETF. We spoken a lot about taking a view on a downturn using the bear the best way to fund. So I've done you talk about that. We've currency oriented funds for those that WanNa take view on on this trillion dollar versus the US dollar as well and those a currency are entity. Yes some of them get. Some of them are not You can take a view on on long term secular themes we see investors interested in themes that really bill to the long term. So we've got for example a very popular cybersecurity. Etf HACK HSE K. You know that is one where people will say look. Yeah we're in a tough time with the moment but cyber security is only going to grow and grow and grow so that is I tried so that then for those that are a bit more sophisticated. Take you using some sort of a pass. Tried an example might be. Let's say you really like the look of the Australian the Australian now shamrock. But you thought that while Walla two sectors that were really going to stand out. So let's say for example. You really thought the over the long term. You didn't like the banks. You didn't let the mind companies but you thought the you know those. Those emerging stranded technology companies. We're going to. We're going to out out out. Do them all. So the after pays or the or Those types of dirt tops organization. So you could. For example. Then. If you felt that way you could buy a short fund at the has fund and then you could go long. Estrella AND TECHNOLOGY SECTOR FUNDS. So you taking out the the March you essentially showed in the market but going long just the technology sector or finally you could say. Listen I actually. These are just hypothetical you can. You can sort of see where I'm going with these ideas is you might say. Look actually Australia's overall relative to the US the US is actually now bounced back too much. It looks a little bit of a value relative to where things are up whereas the strategy market is still for example identically is still look like relative valley so then you could go long a geared fund and you could go short a leveraged start you go along a leveraged a leverage a strategy has fund gear and then you could go long a short US fund. Which would be so essentially Relative value play on Australia's versus the US that way so those are some examples that of course to hide highly hypothetical you new research but does some things we see people doing. Of course but yeah. There's certainly so many opportunities for different ways that you can get creative about how you want to express your days with ATF's and do it all with just a couple of trades to allow will thoroughly enjoyed having this conversation with you. Thank you very much for coming on the PODCAST. I'm sure they'll be some people listening to this. Who locked to follow along with you? Maybe twitter's the best place to do so shares on twitter. I'm on twitter as well. We OBVIOUSLY ON LINK TEN. And we're on facebook so we're everywhere errands so anyone anyone who wants to get all of us they can and of course our website. Beta as dot com easy to find and you will twitter handle is Alon. I L A N under school. I believe it until next time. 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Leaning out with Marissa Orr

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Leaning out with Marissa Orr

"Vega help us learn more about you visit wonder media network DOT COM forward slash survey to share your thoughts and be entered to win before we dive in I have a quick request we are eager to know more about our audience so we created a short listener and have an awesome week talks for thousands of people in the US Europe and Asia Pacific at companies and universities including Google twitter pace new school leaned book clean out the Truth About Women Power and the workplace after fifteen years of working today's top tech giant's she has conducted speaker when I first described this podcast I did so by saying I wanted to tell more stories of what was possible for women working navigate family careers every can express and more in our conversation she shared more about her own experiences as a mom research and what she means by lean out into school and usually come back and work at my desk I work from home I I write I'm out there this show forgets about the leaning in or leaning out debate and talks to women about their paths towards creating a life that includes both family and career because I do you mind sharing a little bit about what your current what your current experiences like you know you're they were babies Twins were surprised I mean we were going to have a second but not quickly and then I found out it was twins so it was going from zero to three kids I thought about things very differently that was today's guest Morris Supper Mussa is a former Google and facebook executive bestselling author and leaderships turn nine in November and my older son is eleven while so you have twins analyzing year old that's pretty pretty busy time you know it's easier now mom like what is your what is the day in the life like for you right now I have three kids and I'm single mom so I train wake up read an hour thing in between while moving past the lean in or lean out debate so I am so appreciative to have been able to connect with Marissa who's the author of the Bestseller I never felt I belonged in that world and I felt day with a lot of times I was hustling for my own self worth to prove to myself L. and others that you know I was good at my job and in person I always felt I did things very different for a lot of women working fulltime for those working from home yeah and so how old are your kids again might twins will they start at third grade think episode notes welcome to season two of the forty three percents I'm Claudia Reuter I literally all I did was take care of babies and work and babies and work and it was a really tough time her before they wake up and go to school so that I got some things done and off my plea before they leave and then I take the can't conferences and events so either writing and writing my keynotes in practicing doing a bunch of other marketing book promotional related two years and they were you know I was working fulltime at Google in the city at that point and has a black hole in my memory because I've been there for so long at that point I also six weeks of vacation so I took it turns out piled up my vacation I took about six months I also got very depressed during that time I'll be honest resolves in the middle of the wind her and you know being home with titties workout and run all the errands for the kids like when my energy is is starting to fade usually in the early afternoon and Ansah purposes but it doesn't turn out anything like you thought it was going to at this point now I was at a real low point it was very isolating in dark my brain and and and having something to my identity more than being a mom it was really really getting to me so it was just interesting how it flipped like that and so ending on me and I what she would turn out to be quintessential archetype ball bully and that whole experience bro Yes so I was at Google for just about thirteen years and facebook was a very different experience than I had anticipated education but I'm just curious like did you have any time to Google is very generous with an and I was working at the time and they're very generous in their leave and because I knew what I was doing I would be able to prove myself facebook in such a way that I could you know easily get the same kind give pursue right you're right you're writer you're you're speaking on you've really built this. This career is an author entrepreneur right I couldn't wait to get back to work I mean I wanted to work less hours like more time at home with my son but at the same time not easing babies in a toddler every day in the winter you know it was it was I was looking forward to getting back to by the end I just felt like a shell Nand hang out after school I don't see that I can have those hours to work and then just hang out homework dinner so very typical I suppose I had a lot of flexibility at a great manager she gave me a lot of autonomy you know once you built your career to that point I was under the mistaken assumption that I once you get through something like that you really feel you can handle a lot more than you thought so you had a baby that was just like still little rightly it didn't matter so the bullying started very quickly and I soon realized there was a whole HR investigation for over one or two he was to just turn to the twins were born so you had a two year old annual twins did you take a full maternity leave and I'm not that that's like a at that time and is particularly with my first son the for it was interesting because I would say the first two months of that maternity leave I cried all the time thinking about having to go back do you remember a moment where you thought okay this is at I'm stepping away from this to do something for me and my family or things that facebook turn the situation at I admit that S- naive but that was where I was at the time the women who have recruited me ended up really previously Google has written this female leadership lecture series in my as a passion project is a side project and so all those things coming together and everybody in my life was encouraging me to go back to Google or to find a different job intact 'cause they right in terms nobody should have to subject themselves that kind of abuse at work what that situation really force me to come to terms with was I was never going to be of myself my kids are twenty three months apart and they've never merges feeling like it's just a lot to get through the day I felt very fortunate to have me frankly like straight up Buddhist because I started searching for ways to gain control of my emotional response in not an doc me so at this point you've still got young kids your your past the the total baby stage but you're still in it you've started a new job at another great company for all in and I knew that her power over me in a career context is absolute by emotionally I could control my reaction so the whole thing turn into my career where Google I was leaving on a high note I got into this new role in the last couple of years there was just really well suited for me I was pretty happy which I did not want to participate that I I totally knew I was going to be fired it was the writing was on the wall for legal reasons they had to wait a year yeah and then NC you're at Google and then you went back so after six months you went back and then at some point according to your book you went over to facebook right where where were you on your journey then oh I was fired and again I say this in the first sentence of the book so it's not a secret but when I was fired from facebook in September twenty seventeen in terms of my book is out there in that feels like such an accomplishment by the lack of structure the uncertainty all that stuff thing I needed to do anyway and then it's been just about two year it's been two years now and it's been great the meat makeup political power move which she is very much a political animal this this woman the executive that hire me by you know truly happy or realize my potential in the corporate structure I'm super creative person and Mike Son it's not easy I am grateful I would not have it any other way but there's something to be said for that steady paycheck and benefits gently turn very quickly it wasn't like there was this phase where everything was great in the term by the third week meet one on one meeting Shamburg that I had asked her signed for a different era right it wasn't designed with technology in mind it wasn't designed it was designed to the factory mindset of nine to five and we've all been kind of pulling on but you've you've taken the your reaction you've taken this positive focus on really rethinking why why it is the way it is right and into feel some I felt very powerless in that scenario and I knew that the first thing I had to regain power over with myself in my reactions in so it's really when I started this journey he just really wanted to reach out to her and that meeting happened my second week facebook the woman who had recruited me saw that meeting is my attempt at appear in for me you know what we're what were some of the things that moated motivated you to rethink what you're doing and you're out in what is really a very cree- to quit because they'll irresponsible right like I'm a single mom of three kids what what am I thinking like I am there it's and psychology and all that stuff so it was really stitching together what I learned from my research with my personal practical experiences that gave birth to this premise that to find satisfaction apart from the corporate structure and when I think about the some of the challenges with the corporate structure I think about the fact that it was through passionless this lecture series that had grown shoe I presented it at other companies in a couple colleges in New York City when I was at Google on a hit put it sure bution so on a team no two people can be equally amazing are equally terrible you're either better or worse than your teammates and then when you couple let me in person for a minute as an introduction at a conference because you know we have a very similar background in terms of week rough missing neighborhood and all this stuff and I headed the time with the fact that most of us were in were in an information knowledge economy the output of our work is invisible you we create strategies right you're also you're not just reading a book you're sharing pretty per obviously pretty personal experiences and pretty low moments right in your career journey died to deal with the situation at facebook so I kind of used the experience their work on this dream I had of turning those lectures into a book and working my at the time my then husband I can begged him like we have to figure it out I can't work I can't leave my baby and then as the foreign five month mark rolled around you know first of all people are against each other rate because if you and I have to compete for promotion Senate since then what do you you know you brought up something else that you brought up the idea that there's a dynamic among colleagues and Co workers that can be ability on who's talented and doing a good job and you couple that with a zero sum gain you get these toxic dynamics where area to judge our work it becomes political so rewards these set of behaviors like aggression of meditation and I'd wake up really early in I learned you know in order to I decided I was going to write the book and use the experience at facebook as you're writing structure essentially as a zero sum game for power because if you win the promotion I lose the promotion and Google and facebook your graded on connections and when we can forge those in pursuit of a common goal women are really unstoppable but the zero sand name the source of income for my house so when I was fired I chose to see it as a gift like it the universe is giving me a kick in the by for in lean out one of which is what you're talking about with the dynamic of Co workers and what that would I talk about is the fact that the corporate more better we're motivated by competitive pursuits so these competitions a lot of times you know power inherent in women is is there is relationship there are so fewer women in leadership positions across the board right not any one company but across the board there's fewer women and top leadership positions certainly fewer I think in one part of your book you talked about the idea that you know the structures that are there people need to come up with another way out with his salary as long as I could until I had gotten farther along main career so it's kind of working on the new career as a side project so intact there's there's a scaredy mindset on what's possible I think that we've conflated the term leader with manager with a manager it compromises your broader goals in life and reduces the quality of your life. I mean how can we call that a win you know a public speaker 'cause I love getting onstage talking to women so I didn't want this woman to have power over me it's a tricky use of language women do aspire to be leaders in their leaders female leaders everywhere working longer hours and playing office politics or marketing campaigns or impact we make on the business sometimes can't really be discerned large organization there's so many people around people that you're trying to serve and that's not progress I loved talking with Marissa and hearing her that compromise the quality of our relationship on top of that we have to compete for the promotion without some sort of objective criteria what's on how the corporate world encourage us to compete against each other rather than work with each other I much prefer to work collectively towards a common goal and that's exactly what Beta brand is doing they are crowd funding platform for fashion Beta brand welcomes feedback and brings crowd sourced ideas wit in on this month on the state every week and work on my budget to seal take me but then that date kept getting pushed out in honestly I don't know if I would have had the current the corporate world overall plus I am very big research nerd I have a fascination four-lane obsession with behavioral science such a smart design they're comfortable work appropriate and versatile they've got styles for different shapes different sizes and tastes Kabuki cut straight leg skinny cropped and more they come in standard colors like black navy grey khaki and with seasonal and in addition colors released monthly Beta brand reminds women that they should never have to compromise when it comes to being comfortable and looking amaze imminence in self promotion the combination can be toxic especially for women because for salt research shows that on average more so many different things it's really hard to know who's doing a good job or she's even doing work at all so when you layer this sort of invisible seem to get your own pair visit Beta brand dot com slash forty three percent to get twenty percent off that's b e more women are motivated by and perform veteran collaborative win win environments whereas men are more the opposite is true for men or the creative person I like to dig into the work and solve problems and really create stuff which is not what you you're you're in place have to obey usually managers of total power over your your career and the problem is we only we only call these executive positions Tom Yeah no one it's so well I'd love your perspective one of the things I've been wondering about do you did you see any correlation between we talk about how doing your manager your linear your opera your operational person and you are in a position of formal authority right the leadership roles and so when we see few women there we can say which is a large premise in lean in sheryl sandberg caused the leadership ambition there's there's this problem with how we measure female progress in quality because when you only measure it on salary the wage gap numbers T. A. B. R. A. N. D. dot com slash four three P. E. R. C. E. N. T. to get twenty percents and even the social structure which I miss so Yang no-one think there's there's a there's there's so much courage in what you did too because you're straight into the design room. Shoppers can vote for designs to become crowd funded projects on the site it's just one of the reasons why I love Beta brands dressed games in the pub politics at work really women against each other they are road the fabric of female relationships which in a lot of cases is one of the very things that make us strong the reason that I suggest for let me give you a personal example of why I don't WanNa be CEO in extrapolate. I'm very like I said I'm very can't yoga pants they take into account what women really want and work collaboratively to make the best pants possible the dress pants yoga pants and so I don't want to be a CEO for many reasons one is you know I really prefer balance and and it's just not interesting to me as a creative person in that's what happened to me Google which was I couldn't be promoted above the level that I was without starting to manage more and more people which is just something that I didn't soccer Berg though right like who are the ones starting at that the policies that maybe they they set forth could could radically transform some sort of even power dynamic in the best you know wins or something like that and I- power structures are really hard to chain sit down and actually write it but the book isn't born you know the premises born from experience at facebook it was really looking at the Mike I feel like we as a society don't necessarily put our dollars behind the things we say we care about you know in a really really interesting to your point if we did I think CEO's and call the gender gap than in many cases it can if you saw it you might compromise the the wellbeing of the nobody wants to talk about it because you feel like you're complaining about your job but it is actually really stressful which is really another big you know as as earlier in her career and has to pay for childcare and the childcare is eating up you know huge percentage of our take home pay and in you know CEO is really unlikely to change anything about that structure because it's a threat to their power so I do think that the change experience and childcare you know for the younger years none of it matches what happens in the corporate environment none of it so it's like it causes on wants to do I'm an entrepreneur loves starting things and so I guess I have sort of an idealistic view that if there were more women who were the mark in gap that women don't aspire to be leaders the same degree as men in her whole book is really about why in my point is not really because you have to take into account the power structure it's a very uneven power structure person above you has almost total power over you and then as you get higher in that structure toxic and what did you find there were writing so the experience at facebook was really just fortuitous events that that caused me the same time it's certainly not enough to give that child care provider a quality of life and so on like we it seems like we just there's these structural issues that are so much more of the so much more the source than a culture that AH women have and so I hope that by being honest about them and putting them out on the table that we can sort of address are everybody likes different things if we're going for diversity trying to get everybody to want the same things as the exact opposite in part of off your dress pants yoga pants today there is this kind of step where it's like well are you going to get into management are keep doing what you're doing tonight her to power it becomes more concentrated is the word I'm looking for so it's not just a collection people because a collection of people assume that there's hi Leeann they make you feel like if you

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