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Water Treatment

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Water Treatment

"It helps us out a lot when you become a Patriot supporter. Find the children's hour podcasts. At patron dot com slash the children's hour. And thank you. Why haven't you seen that new movie constipated I because it hasn't come out yet? It's time for the children. Don't give them Martin Mine Mine Mine. Bit that founded by Mine Mining Mind Song Mine Mine Mine. Mine mine off Myanmar Myanmar. My in Miami done by brave Combo and Cathy Fink and Marcy. Mercer from a CD called wound up a family music party. You are tuned to the children's hour. I am Katie Stone. We have a whole studio people. Start over here. I'm Eliana Kilo Haley. Hi I'm Leela I'm Kaya and Guan I'm Julia we're GONNA BE TALKING AARON CAC. Who's in the studio with us? She's from the Albuquerque. Bernallio County Water Utility Authority. She's the educator aright water. Did anybody use water this morning in any way to do what drainage hands drink tea during somebody brush their teeth. Yeah how about? Did you wake up and go to the bathroom? Yes indeed tell this so you probably use water there too correct. Yes water there yes. We are talking about water. Because it's airing job to help explain to all of us. Where do we get our water from? And then after our waters dud. Let's think about the polite way when we do our dishes in the sink and we drain our dishes. That goes to the same places when you flush your toilet but no we have to go somewhere you don't want to be in your house. Has To go somewhere and it has to do with that much wastewater. We'll call it what we're going to find out. What does our city do? And you're gonNA find out something that may shock you or it may blow your mind. Which is that. You can actually swim in the water that once you flushed down the toilet the kids. You should see their faces. What has looking. We're going to help you see that. It's not gross. Really has any of you. Have any of you ever thought about this before the Lincoln City in Colorado does it think sorry not Colorado California California Their wastewater have you ever thought about this? The wastewater we're the water. Yeah I mean I've always wondered. Where do we get our water? Where does it go? Where's it coming from? We're GONNA find out everything here on the children's hour today we're also gonNA talk with Aaron kickabout. How listeners can get their own deep exploration of the subject no matter your age no matter if you're a teacher of little tiny kids or a teacher of big kids or an adult you too can get a lot of education from the Albuquerque Bernallio County Water Utility Authority and all of that is part of what we pay for and our water bill. In the meantime I thought we might go this way and we'll be back with Aaron from the ABC W. A. This is from CD called about water. Leoni Jensen Leeann. Ju Clear running stream. Everybody knows that we order known water. Coming Down Dude precious watered. Let me give you the branch tuning into the children's hour. We're thinking about water. Water is life. Is the name of that song by Leoni Jansen and Salim. Callister and here in Albuquerque. We rely upon the Albuquerque Bernallio County Water Utility Authority to handle everything related to our water utility. That's the water coming in to your tap and the water going out through your drains and in the studio with us as Aaron catches the educator at ABC W. Welcome to the children's hour. Thank you for having me so happy to have you well. Of course. There's lots of questions in the studio and Let's start with this one when we turn on our TAP. Where does the water come from? Good questions up until two thousand nine. All of Albuquerque's drinking water was coming from the aquifer underground because at that time we thought that we had this almost limitless supply of water under our city but we have discovered since that water. Not only did we have much less than we originally thought but that we were diminishing that supply much faster than it could be replenished with annual rainfall so starting in two thousand nine. We began to use river water as well. And so now. When you turn on your tap you get a mixture depending on the time of year. It's roughly half water from the aquifer underground and half coming from the Rio Grande River. How you clean the water that comes from the river cray questions that we have a diversion channel near Alameda where we divert that water to our drinking water treatment facility which is located near. Rei You guys know where that is. Yeah and it goes through a whole process. We start with just allowing some of the heavier sediment to settle out. Then we add chemicals that help form or flocculation the water so that we can remove larger particles It goes through reverse osmosis filtration and ozone treatment. Said that by the time it gets to your TAP. It is nice and clean. Wow interesting how much water do we use another great question? So we have made tremendous progress here in Albuquerque back in the nineteen eighties. People were using over two hundred fifty gallons of water per day per person on average and we have dropped down to about one hundred and twenty seven gallons per day. Wow that is amazing. That's that's just by conservation. Yes I like to think. Our education program has helped with that. We also offer rebates for people to get rid of their old toilets and replace them with low flow toilets. we've done a lot with encouraging people to zero escape. Their yards offer rebates for zero escape. Anybody escaping so essentially it means removing grass or plants that require a lot of water and putting in plants that are more better suited to this landscape so desert plants. That don't requires much water. What's so incredible about that is. That's all through just conservation efforts that we've reduced our water use exactly and our new water plan which has just been approved by our board which is called water twenty one twenty is hoping to even further. Those conservation efforts are new. Goal is to get that number down to one hundred and ten gallons per person per day. Wow so give us just one little. Do you know these little stats like when we flush the toilet which we'll talk about where that goes on a little bit but when we that's clean water that's that was filtered and all of the water that is sent to your house from the drinking water. Treatment Plant is clean water. So whether it comes out your faucet it comes out your hose. It goes to your toilet All of that water is clean at comes from the same pipe. So how much? How many gallons? So if we're trying to one hundred ten gallons per household is our goal. How many gallons does it say? A flush toilet is great. So older toilets used three to five gallons per flush. The toilet is actually the biggest water user in your house so putting in a low flow. Toilets is a great idea because most of those have two buttons right one for small flash on one if you need a bigger flush and may use less than two gallon sometimes as little as one gallon per flush. Are there any kids in the studio here? Have ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR LISTENERS? About how they can water and not use so much. Yeah taking shorter showers. Nice Nice. Yeah how do I would? I was so surprised were the most I would have thought showers would be more than toilet. Toilet is the biggest in the house but In general if you look at all the water that we pump to your homes. Most of it is actually used outside in your yard. Wow Yeah please. Julia any other suggestions for how to conserve water. I'm not leaving the sink while you brush your teeth. Oh my goodness yeah. How much does that use if you don't if you let it? Roll Flo Inflow. Does it just depend on? The Faucet. Depends on the Faucet. But they're also air raiders. Now that you can put on your assets that will help really reduce that flow. Yeah So for ways you could even like recycle water. You can take your water after you've rents lettuce and stuff and you can put that on your plants in your yard. New coon also do that with the same as like fish tank water. Wow I never thought about that. Excellent good at all of these conservation ideas are being played out all over our city and all over our state in order to conserve water. Because do we have a limitless amount of water here. Absolutely not so. That's why we have this very progressive new water management plan. And if things go according to schedule we're hoping to not diminish the Aquifer at all in the next hundred years so that's really important because I like to think of the Aquifer is like our Savings Bank of water which we can rely on in times of extreme drought and for the first time. In twenty years we're seeing the levels of water in the Aquifer going up rather than down so it's risen in some places as much as twenty seven inches. That's wonderful because it was too sinking and sinking and so really what you're saying is ultimately. We are really getting our drinking water from our TAP. After it's gone through all your filtering processes we ultimately getting it from rain snow. And and what's the that's gotTa be it right rain and snow really ultimately. Were really drinking that while the water in the Aquifer has been collecting there for thousands of years really since the last ice age but we are just much faster than it could be replenished from annual rainfall and the river water. You are always on river water. We're not always using the river water because sometimes that river is really low like in September and August of last year. Gosh it was so low right. The amount of river water that we can use varies quite a bit from day to day and season to season and there are a whole bunch of people involved in that process of deciding how much we're able to take from the river each day and then we have to return that water back to the river after we clean it at our wastewater treatment plant. Aaron CAC is from the Albuquerque Bernallio Water Utility Authority. And you know Aaron. I'd love to talk with you more about that. Other half what happens when we flush and what happens when we go down the drain and how do you return the water to the river? Let's do it but we're GONNA come back to you Erin from Albuquerque Bernallio County Water Utility Authority. And she's in our studio to talk to us about our water systems. The children's hour is produced by the children's Hour Incorporated a New Mexico nonprofit dedicated to producing high-quality kids. Public radio support is provided by listeners. Just like you find out more. At Children's our DOT ORG support provided by electric playhouse in all ages playhouse filled with food and family entertainment. Electric playhouse encourages healthy active. Play using technology to bring people together now open in Albuquerque for delivery and takeout more electric playhouse dot com. You're listening to the radio. We'll be right back Could be today. Grad represent the movement of water with Abobo below the Earth's surface in a continuous cycle. My works never been by energy from the Sun traveled to the see through the air through the crowd. You could say that water really gets around when in fact most water's just chilling options. Only gives small fraction is really getting motion. At any given time but yo- that's the way it goes when we're studying the voyages of h two in the cycle. Water changes states at various places. Three states begin is liquid and vapor. Put the cycle straight from the norm through the process. Water still kiss the same structure for what was involved. Campbell changed. Kwara may change states but his structure stays the same from the down to the ground is rain snow. Watch moving on the water site moving. Wada site C grounded Wayne. 'cause on the water cycle the water transformed from the gas and rises up into the atmosphere. That's evaporation across. Made Possible by energy from this also known as Solar Radiation Water Vapor in this scar reforms into liquid water droplets condensation and waterfalls back down to the Earth as rain snow. Hail Asleep Bats precipitation planes? Have their own type of evaporation to the Mata which is called transpiration collectively determine news for transportation the evaporation evapotranspiration two more terms to add to your collection. The Movement of water through the air is infection and speaking of keeping their moving understand. That runoff is water. Flowing across from the see below down to the ground is rain. Snow Wasi because on the water cycle the water site from the way because on the water cycle. Yeah that is the water cycle song. It's by save the Water Dot. Org again you can find out more about how you can save the water by going to save the Water Dot. Org in the studio with us today here on the children's hour it's me Katie Stone. A whole bunch of kids. We could say hi. Hi I and then also our friend Aaron Keck. She's from the Albuquerque Bernallio County Water Utility Authority and I love hearing all about how the water comes out of our tap. And where do you get from? But the kids are full of lots and lots of questions for you and all them take it away. Where does it go okay? So the dirty water that goes down your drain or down. Your toilet goes through the sewer lines which is another set of pipes underground and it's carried to the wastewater treatment plant which is located down in the South Valley. And that's where we clean your wastewater we clean over fifty million gallons of wastewater every single day. And that means that. The poop from every single person in Albuquerque over six hundred thousand people is delivered to that facility. That stinks please. What happens to the stuff you filter out of the water okay so that wastewater when it comes to us is comprised of three things? It's actually mostly water so the water. Once we filter that out gets return to the river. There's also trash which is stuff that really shouldn't be there in the first place and we get all kinds of funny things coming down the lines. When it comes to trash. There was an older gentleman. Who's false teeth got flushed down the toilet and he requested that we stop. The treatment process that day and look for his false teeth. We get cell phones and bandages and toys and rappers and that stuff is all stuff. That really doesn't belong there so everybody out there can help us out by not flushing anything down your toilet except toilet paper. Right and pee and poop but the trash just gets treated like your trash at home we have big dump trucks that come every day and pick up trash three to five big dump trucks. Take that trash to the landfill. The only difference is our trashes covered in Poop so we have to bury it under the soil. And lastly the sludge. That's what you guys really WanNa know about right. We call poop. Sludge sludges basically food or used to be food. So that's food that you either washed off your plates or food. That's traveled to your digestive system and the sludge eventually becomes compost that we can use as fertiliser incredible here. You're using that fertilizer here in Albuquerque. We are on parks Down in the valley many farmers will purchase are compost it gets taken out to our soil amendment facility which is out on the west side near. Double Eagle Airport and it goes through further treatment there before it gets sold to the public. Whatever we don't sell to the public is buried on our land up there at that facility. I WanNa talk to you more about how you process the poop but I want you to I wanted to. I play a little piece that we did yesterday. we went out and did the tour. And we'll talk more about that too madeline and Jud went with me down to the what we call the POOP FACTORY. Although who knows maybe that's in. Your bathroom is actually the poop factory by this is how do we process all that and we went down? We watched single stage of what was going on in this. Little section of the processing is where there's a giant lot series of lights that are shining into the almost clean water. It's the last step. And here's how Madeline described it clear and I think there's a light on meet that so looks like really bright water white. Wow whoo pretty interesting there So you have all of these different pools and that Jude and Madeline were describing that this one pool. That was the very last pool. It really did look like a swimming pool. It is so clean. Rags never believed that. That was the water that was at the first pools. And in this to our tour we started with the dirtiest dirty. And you just cannot believe it exactly. They were having the last step of the treatment process which is where we passed the water under a row of ultraviolet bulbs and the UV. Rays what they do. Essentially they don't kill off bacteria or viruses but they scramble their DNA so because they have such a short life cycle by the time that water reaches the river. If there were any remaining viruses or bacteria in the river they would have died off and would no longer be able to harm us and that water does have a really beautiful light. Greenish blue color. You feel like you're in the Caribbean or the Bahamas. Aaron Keck is the educator at the Albuquerque Burnley a water rail Kirke Bernalillo County Water Utility Authority. You all really went for the long acronym often. Just call it the water authority now. It's much simpler that. Abc W. A. and Hang On. Hang in there with us. We HAVE MORE AARON CAC. This is Jonathan I wake in the. It's a very hard job. Yeah no they won't hire just any old slab. Don't have tire coat. You just have to know how to float. Listen that's how long this thing roll out every below. I wake down a manhole. What a guy named Bruce and we are in charge of all the refuse they lets me go first while he holds the telling you sweet kid also they paid a funny thing happened to boost. Yesterday the tide came along. Hey God carried. Oh why upping. But it's O K now because that's where he lives anyhow buffet. This is so raise their own. Do you my father. He worked in a sewer uptown. I followed his footsteps and wait my way down. That's how I began in this industry. I just kind of fell into it. Lucky me let's start insides. Do you think the logic. Don't flush your toys like Toronto. Is Our medicine wielded. Curly Sky your way. Say this off now. When you're saying you're saying that think ask what GOES IN STORMS RIGHT NOT CLEAN. You Clean Appear Tracking Rain live too. That's actually a song produced by the Albuquerque. Bernalillo County Water Utility Authority and Should not flush is the name of that we are. Waterways is the name of their educational CD. And I'm pretty sure any old teacher can get that yes. We have a lot of resources available on our website for students teachers adults. Anyone who's interested this song brought up a question here in the studio and And Yeah please. Do you ever get alligators? There are no alligators in the sewer lines. Not As an urban myth because they're sulfuric acid those lines and that is formed when hydrogen sulfide mixes with Water. So nothing can breathe down there. If our operators need to go down into the big pipes that have to wear oxygen masks so nothing can live in those lines except teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. Of course Okay but they have superpowers so no elevator. No alligators but we did have an Iguana and a parrot come through the lines and since we know that nothing can live down there for long. They must have gotten in really close to our because they read the law because they survived and they are now. Someone's pet wow yes that is like the the classic fear that you're taking a bath in an alligator comes crawling up the journey. That's not going to happen. That's my classic fear. I guess so. You're tuned to the children's are we're talking to Aaron kick. She's the educator at the Albuquerque Bernallio County Water Utility Authority. When I went there we you showed us the water coming in. It's really gross. It smells terrible. And then it goes from these giant like almost million gallon or more tanks yes to another million gallon or more tank to another million it just keeps going from tank to tank to tank yes and then ultimately it ends up in that one. That looks like the swimming pool. That's so clean. What is happening at each one of these tanks? That's enabling you to clean the water so so well and then you're you're actually putting it back in the Rio Grande it's clean. Yes what happens tank to tank to tank? How's that happen sure? I'd be happy to describe that so. The first thing that happens is the water passes through these big bar screens and that's where we capture the trash then it sits in big grit chambers. And that's where we allow the heaviest grit. Just naturally settle to the bottom then it gets pumped to primary clarifiers and that's the first pool that you could really see because it was open those hold over a million gallons of water and what's happening there is that forty percent of the sludge is settling to the bottom and we capture that sludge which is essentially poop right and we send it to big digesters which are kind of like your gut so if you can imagine a huge stomach and intestines full of enzymes and bacteria go ahead. Ask a question what happens to the toilet paper it just gets broken down in the sludge and gets treated along with everything else so it becomes just kind of Mush there in the liquid but the digesters have enzymes and bacteria. That actually didn't introduce they come from your gut so when you poop that stuff. The bacteria and enzymes from your stomach's travels with your poo along. The sewer lines are digesters and we keep them at ninety eight degrees just like your body temperature so that those bacteria can continue to break down the food for US. That's just incredible. You don't actually add bacteria that's right it all comes from you you all have trillions of bacteria in your stomach that are doing that job for you and so we just keep them happy so they can continue to work now in the in the thing that you showed us yesterday you spoke. I was at your your tour. You showed us this incredible slide. That was a it was a droplet of your untreated water. I take it or water in the process. Yes and it had these critters all over it. Talk about those right. So there are three more pools to after the primary clarifiers. That water is sent to our basins and those are basins and we have both water. That has not very much oxygen in it. We call that ANAEROBIC quarter and we have oxygen where Sorry water of where we're bubbling in really large volumes of oxygen to create so it looks like a Baroque Fountain. And it's the most odd place in the world that you'd think of Fountain would be wanted but this on the air you're putting is actually helpful. It's enabling these bacteria to breathe right and what's happening in these basins. I really like to think of them as the heart of the plant because these microorganisms that thrive in those conditions are eating the remaining sludge out of the water for us so we are just again providing optimal conditions for them to do their job. And we don't introduce them either. They just get carried him on little specks of dust by the wind and then they thrive in this little micro ecosystem so at this point the sludge that remains in the water there. Sixty percent of the sledge laughed and it's just dissolved and suspended solids in the water and we were looking at a drop taken from one of those basins and you can see this whole universe of Sicilia and pyramid and stocked silliest wrote offers and the most famous which is the tar degrade or water bear. We were able to see one of those yesterday under the slide and essentially all day long. These folks are just doing most of the workforce. They're eating the poop out of the water. Why is the Tar Grade Poop? Okay poop while the tardy grade poop would just become part of the the buffet right that these other critters can then eat and it just goes around and around but what happens. Is these guys eventually become really fat and old and heavy because they have gorge themselves all day long on this food and they saddle out may die and they settled to the bottom and then we pump the clean water to the next tank which is called our final clarifier and from there the last step is the UV ray treatment and then really the final step is it goes from there and it goes out into the river? That's right and it's really quite something to see. I think it's remarkable. Because that channel of water being emptied into the river it's actually the third largest tributary to the Rio Grande so the first is the trauma river then the Canal House and then are treated wastewater which is really clean and you can see where that clean water is mixing with. There's a really clear line where clean. Water is mixing with a really silty muddy water of the Rio Grande. Yes you have a question. Uv Rays burn the bacteria. They don't they scramble their DNA so that they can no longer reproduce which means once they die then they just they've they've died off so if there are any remaining viruses or bacteria in the water at that point they are essentially killed off by the UV rays. That is fascinating. You are listening to Erin Keck. She's from the Albuquerque. Bernallio County Water Utility Authority. Never never put any grease or cooking. Our pants you know. I don't often think about this but if I'm frying something and then just leaning that olive oil off my pan you know I might now. I know I'M GONNA start scraping every little scrape of Greece not in my drain. That's right fats. Oils and grease what we call. Fog is a big problem because it clogs are lines. So when you are cooking up a batch of Bacon or something like that it's really important that you drain that Greece into a can let it cool and then throw it into your trash can but what happens is if you continue to pour that stuff down your drain year after year your pipes becomes so clogged that lot of pressure can back up in your lines and eventually if your pipes become completely blocked you could go to flush your toilet one day and everything. That's been backed up and collecting in your pipes. Could come shooting out of your. There's just no place spread to go so nobody would want that to happen. All the more reason to scrape your bacon grease creep it and toss it and Aaron CAC. It was a delight. Having you in the studio with us today. Thank you so much for being on the children's hour we learned a lot from our welcome and I would encourage anyone to look at our website. We have a wonderful education program. So fantastic Aaron Keck from the Albuquerque Bernallio County Water Utility Authority so many resources at ABC w dot org printable and easy to use in classrooms or for kids color abso- and conservations key. This is the next generation that isn't going to waste our water. Thank you so much Erin. Cash for being with us on the children's hour. Thank you for having me. You're listening to the children's hour. The children's hour is produced by the Children's Hour Incorporated nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality. Kids public radio. You can find out more at children's our dot. Org Wolf is a proud supporter of the children's hour. Y'All wolf creates immersive experiences that transport audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic realms of story and exploration meow Wolf Dot Com. You're listening to the children's public radio. We'll be right back. Good Ooh sued. I meet my kids and a EH EH EH myself. Dry Ansi Donnie great been struck believing song things died. Anything else is I mind then Bins COSMO's sheldrick with the tar degrades song. Tardy grades are such amazing animals. They are everywhere on this planet. They are in the deepest part of our oceans. They are in every climate. You can imagine they are. What helped break down the solids. We flush. They're easy to see even with pretty low magnification of a microscope. Sometimes they're called. Water bears or MOSS piglets. They have eight legs and they're they look like little eight legged Rowley. Holies there are about a half a millimeter in length when they're full grown and they have been known to survive deep space. Tardy grades have been around on planet earth for as long as life has been around over five hundred million years ago. They were part of the planet. Earth's biosphere. You're tuned to the children's hour. Most of today's show was recorded in twenty seventeen in a live show. We broadcast on K. U. M. in Albuquerque. And we wanted to check back in with the education director at the Albuquerque. Bernallio County Water Utility Authority. Aaron CAC TO UPDATE WHAT. You taught us back in twenty seventeen which we've heard today. What are the things you're now seeing getting flushed down the toilet that you really wish? Weren't there well what I focused on lately when I lead the towards of our wastewater treatment plant are not so much the random everyday things like toys or false teeth which always get a laugh but more of the big picture issues that we're looking at things like medicines really making sir. People aren't fleshing kills or pouring old medicine down the think disposable wipes is another issue that we're kind of facing across the board. Hopefully one day there will be a lawsuit of some kind and they will no longer be able to advertise those as being flushable But what happens with those? Is they bind together and create long ropes which clog up our entire system. So I'd say those are two of the things that we focus on more recently. Anything else is new over at your facility since twenty seventeen. Oh my goodness well. The primary clarifiers which is one of the first steps in our treatment process. Those are these enormous that hold a million and a half gallons of raw sewage. Those I'll have covers now and that's a pretty big deal because it dramatically cuts down on the smell so we did that partially in an effort to be better neighbors to the people who live around the wastewater treatment facility and we have a new storage facility where we hold the treated sludge What we call bio solids before we spin those in a centrifuge to dry them out and then send them out to our soil amended facility where we create compost so those are some of the new facilities that have been built out there. The entire place is getting a giant facelift so all the equipment is being cleaned and renovated and upgraded. I saw at the new water intake facility. There's a huge solar array. Yes is that powering. The entire facility We have a giant fuller array at both our drinking water treatment plant and at the wastewater treatment plants. And I'm not sure about drinking water but down at the wastewater facility. Assaulter panels provide about a fourth of the electricity that we need to power the plant and then we get of additional almost a third of electricity provided for by using methane gas in combustion engines to in a big code generator facility to produce electricity. And that methane comes right from your own facility. Yes it comes from our digesters where we break down the stretch. Which is more scientific name for Poop? Aaron CAC is the education director at the Albuquerque. Bernallio County Water Utility Authority. Abc W you a you can take a virtual tour of their facility at their website as well as learn more about each stop along the way. Thanks so much for being with us on the children's hour again Aaron. 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"What kind of vegetables do librarians eat. I saw quiet peas. It is time for the children's hour broadcasting ronay eastbound library in daycare as new mexico anyway. The wind blows. That's where you'll find me is holding on to <hes> thing look for me when the rain goes clouds behind me and you hear the birds as they sing <music> <music> by eamon ara split fair allthough diverse gum at the rest of the rest of the scoop jeddah's lhasa <music>. That's we'll find me. Signed <music> goes the clouds are all new foods this <music> that path you're listening to the children's hour. I'm katie stone and we're here at the eastbound library with an awesome crowd of people high crowded people at our fabulous crew high crew <music>. I'm katie stone. Let's start over here. Who do we have with us today. I am chaban hello. It's my hello at ted. Hi i'm lucas heights mile lucille. Hi it's duly hi this is elliott and hello or and lots of great people in the audience and hello to seth hoffman who katie and everybody oh hello seth well. It is great great to have you with us and back with us on the children's hour. You've you've been a guest many times and we've loved having you and now you live in israel israel so you're kinda hard to book. Frankly our schedules coordinated well for this morning. Yeah i love it. I love it. Seth hoffman is a teacher and a singer her songwriter and he's gonna be with us for the whole show playing original music and playing some sing alongs in the audience. Are you all going to help us with singing along. I'm really hoping exactly yes nodding never works on the radio okay yes. That's a yes we also have an. She's going to come up here in just a few minutes shirley in piscataway and she is the district five county commissioner we are in district five of bernallio county which is a county in new mexico with it encompasses albuquerque and our mountain which is called the sandia mountains and here we are on the other side of the sandy as from albuquerque kirke for those who do not know and we're going to talk a little bit with charlene and commissioner scotty about living in the mountains. That's what it's like to have life with altitude and i'm sure some of our guests here live in the mountains and they know all about it. It's very different from living in the valley. When you say and on my crew i just want to see. Is there any news in the studio this morning. It's been a we're not in a studio but in the library oh yeah please great to have you back. I recently moved confronted out this area really so you're out here. In the mountains water tastes weird okay take the water tastes weird. Oh my goodness you're county. Commissioner is nodding this must be what life at altitude is like. I don't know i i. I love hiking in these mountains. Do you all like hiking in these mountains. Yeah what do you like to do when you hike in these mountains anybody going on up to the talk going on up to the ski valley. Yeah we're going camping. Ooh that's a fun thing to do in the mountains well mountain. Life is very different from city life. It's very different from valley life and we're gonna learn about that and we have so much more coming up on the children's hour but i would you like to hear a little more from seth off men and do you think takeaway right. This song goes to all of you who've ever experienced the joy of being outside of your comfort zone in life. Sometimes we have to stretch ourselves to do things that are new. That's what the song's about you started. Slowly wasn't the only right but don't worry. There's no hurry the time in you seen old part of living something new not always know what to do archies. It's good to get out of our comfort. Zone music helps us when we feel grace now lines in face now to me in this now started slowly didn't right but don't worry. There's no hurry taupin donovan. You'll see it's all part of levin. Something new not always knew what to to do. It's good to get out of our comfort zone music when we feel grace race now snap learning to make it in this as ooh ooh ooh seth hoffman the singer your storyteller and i know i've sung along with you. Can you play something where we can sing along sure we can play something. We sing along well. This is a classic song that goes back probably longer than any of us. Can you know we'd probably know and this goes out to our beautiful sunshine. You are my son shot by police. Show me when scott's <music> who please don't shy arena are at just the adults. Let's here we go. You are by son shot. Only shy <music> skies dot green you it please don't show all right all the kids under the age of twenty eight you as long as i know own beautiful talk and the only thing better than that when we all sing all together here we go <music> shot me eh shine shine one time you sir <music> skies you shot lease eh so please don't it was gorgeous cockman yet first thing in the morning here at the east mountain library into to harris new mexico. Does anyone know what the word harris means. I have hands going up. I've hands going up <hes> yeah kids on my crew. Anybody yeah yeah yes go for it go for it to harris means scissors scissors so i it came. I was in california recently and i came upon a place that was called t. hera hera and then we sat there thinking. How do you have just this one up. Is that even a thing like what are you. It's like a broken if you only have a faira so we were wondering about that if that's that's even a thing. Has anyone ever heard t. Hera no a lot of shaking heads. We wondered about that like why t- hera and y t harris speak to yarra ara ooh t._r. Raw tiara new mexico well. I'm going to invite charlene biscotti to to a microphone up here so come on up for just a second. I wanna get talking with you. You can come right here to this middle. Mike we're at the east mountain library library and t harris new mexico and got your michael fixed for you. Thank you very much good morning to you. Hello hello and good morning to so you and everybody great to have you commissioner piscotty. You know it's either piscataway or prescription. Let you in on a secret people in albuquerque kirke in my district say scotty like biscardi like the cookie but out here. It's piscotty like coyote. Wow wow this cody cody now. We have some rhymes to work with. I think <hes> an improv. What is we heard a little bit about living in the mountains by one of our kids crew members that your water tastes weird. I guess that's compared to the city water. Water tastes weird weird. Okay all right. What is some other attractive things about living in the mouth. I'll tell you it's tarantula season. The tarantulas are coming out. They they will be all over our roads and a couple of weeks. I just imagining listeners listening from other parts of the country and thinking way tarantulas. Is these things it's definitely a thing and do you like drive over them and squish them. I try not to squish them. Don't squish the tarantulas angelo's but what i do always wonder is because i see hundreds of tarantulas on my road. I'm like where are the rest of the year. They're probably in my a yard. Oh yeah have have anyone here in the audience. If you have say say somebody. Have you seen tarantulas out here. Yes yes every they're are raising their hands but yes yes. That's a mountain thing <hes> tarantulas snakes snakes to you have a lot of snakes what kind of snake we big bull all snakes and they can be really long like five six feet long and we love our snakes actually because they eat our rats hats which we also have a lot of wow so east mountain living is snakes rats tarantulas and bad water. What are the great things about living out here in the eastbound's. Should we know about well. We have some really great things to we. Have we have the sunshine. We have the mountains we have all the great open spaces great great places to hike or ride your horses. I have three horses and so just the outdoor. Recreation is the best we have all the seasons out here are summer summer was really nice and hot but it was hotter in albuquerque so out in the east mountains we're we're usually about ten degrees cooler in the summer and in the winter we get snow days. That is one thing i think kids on our crew can really all the kids in the audience can appreciate you all get get a lot more snow days out here in the mountains. Even though we're in a same school district is you. We're always hearing up. It's a two hour delay for the east mountains schools up. It's a snow day and i have to tell you those of us kids in the valley and in the city we're like why can't we live in the mountains but that's now that we know we're going to start saying because of tarantula. I'm kidding so you guys get snow days. Get a lotta snow. You get cooler weather. It's a wonderful place to come to cool off off. Get away from the heat but when i think of mountain living i'm always thinking about how like how do you drive around here without slipping slipping and sliding on the roads. It's kinda scary. Sometimes in the winter to drive around here it is but when you live out here you have to be tough and learn how to hug those curves. Oh tough we all have our we probably should all have our four wheel drive vehicles because you're right. It is a little bit different out here. The living living i think is a little bit more extreme because we do get those really cold days. The snow days are usually pretty icy on the roads and so that's a problem often are highway. I forty is shut down because of the snow and so that can be very inconvenient as well as dangerous so you just spend a lot of time at home here in the east mountains hiding from snakes tarantulas snow days. Oh no we don't hide. We nearly love our lifestyle l. out here. It is really different. I don't see yards filled with grass u._c. Yards filled with rocks and beautiful native trees and bushes is this is not very wet out here. Do you get a lot less rain out here than we do. You get more. It seems like we've got a lot of rain. We've gotten a lot of snow snow this past winter a lot of rain but you're right that the terrain is very different and it is very dry and one of the things that we have to worry about in addition to the rattlesnakes. It'll snakes and the tarantulas are the fires and so we have to make sure that we create what's called defensible spaces around our homes. We defensible sensible space around your home so you're going out. There and you got like your water guns and you're ready to shoot down the fire. Well you know we actually believe in really preventing fires so instead of standing with waterguns we like to take the dead trees away and keep all all the debris away from around our houses so that a fire doesn't start around our houses and if it does that our firefighters can get in there and fight the fires for us well. We're talking with charlene scottie scottie depending if you live on this side of the mountain or that side of the mountain and we're she's bernallio leo county commissioner for the district out here district five and we're gonna come back and hear more from her and just a few minutes but <hes> seth. Can you play a little music like for us of special song well. This is a music bed. Actually we're not kissing yet. Play bad for us and then we'll get into a song <music> <music>. You're listening to the children's hour. We'll be right back <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> in the children's hour seth hoffman place. They saw for us well. The song was a very special band out there called the potato band this the put goes like this and you potato band members out there. The not not dope band this two day can a to they have to say who was sooty though what's me <hes> she's up but day to day a <music> a i c c france i see jonathan wolf and is dancing dancing day a a no no fees <music> but they know this three cheese dip array booms. Let's let's go bam. Bash tap at jive jews it goes inflows lowe's booze that a tatum adult than than that back and <music> seth hoffman. You're listening to the children's hour and we've been talking about how we live in here. In the mountains at the east mountain library charlene pass scottie scottie scottie is the district five county commissioner and are you ready for us. He ready ready ready. You're ready. Charlene has storytime. Come on up to the front. If you're a kid so you can see all the pictures. Please come on a lot of kids in the studio. We're not in a studio lot of kids in the library and great to have you all here. Come on up. Everyone certainly scotty taken away. Okay so our book today is called. What do you do with an idea. It's written by kobe yomata and illustrated by may best <hes> <hes> and it was published by a publisher and we can get back to you later on that so let me tell you the story one day. I had an idea where where did it come from. Why is it here. I wondered what do you do with an idea at first. I didn't think much of it. It seemed kind of strange engine fragile. I didn't know what to do with it so i just walked away from it. I acted like it didn't belong to me but it followed me. I worried what others would think. What would people say about my idea. I kept it to myself. I hit it away and i didn't talk about it. I tried to act like everything was the same as it was before. My idea showed up but there was something magical about my idea i had to admit i felt better and happier. When it was around it wanted food at wanted to play <music>. Actually it wanted a lot of attention. It grew bigger and we became friends. I showed it to other people. Even even though i was afraid of what they would say. I was afraid that if people saw it they would laugh at it. I was afraid they would think it was silly and many of them did. They said it was no good. They said it was too weird. They said it was a waste of time and that it would never become anything and at first i i believe them. I actually thought about giving up on my idea. I almost listened to them but then i realized would you. What do they really no. This is my idea. I thought no one knows it like i do and it's okay if it's different and weird and maybe a little crazy. I decided to protect it to care for it. I fed it good food. I worked with it. I played with it but most of all i gave it my attention in my idea grew and grew and so did my love for it. I built a new house one with an open roof where it could could look up at the stars a place where it could be safe to dream. I liked being with my idea. It made me feel more alive like like i could do anything. It encouraged me to think big and then to think bigger it shared its secrets with me. It showed me how to walk. Walk on my hands because it said it's good to have the ability to see things differently. I couldn't imagine my life without it. Then one day something amazing happened. My idea changed right before my very eyes it spread. It's wings took flight right and burst into the sky. I don't know how to describe it but it went from being here to being everywhere. It wasn't just a part of me anymore. It was now a part of everything and then. I realized what you do with an idea you you change. The world have camera because i'd be taking pictures. This moment right picked up my there's a backup drive on being listed rhine nine <music> brian. If it's cliche today's dave all right feel free to disagree but as mel synchronicity the it as long as it's a shame am living for today. Go back to now right now ever <music> ah because i'd be taken pictures right now john samson from i'm a brand new release ageless songs for the child archetype and in fact he is a counselor and and some health stuff and that entire cd is full of songs about getting good child mental health. You are listening into the children's hour. I am katie stone and here with a lot of great people at the east mountain library into harris new mexico. We have a a fabulous audience. Hello hello folks here today. Well charlene elitist. Scotty is with us. She is the district five bernallio county commissioner. She was sworn into office on january first two thousand nineteen. She is a a licensed mental health therapist working in private practice. She lives she works in albuquerque but her home out here in the east mountains into harris which is on the the other side of our mountain so she goes to both sides of her district. District is on the other side of the mountain in addition to a master's degree in counseling. Charlene has is a master's degree in public health and sociology and has been self employed for most of her career and boy. Oh boy lots more to say you come from a military veteran veteran a law enforcement family and you got elected to be a bernallio county commissioner and essentially. We have one big question for you. What as a county commissioner do that is a great question because the county commissioner does a lot and so i will just summit up by saying that really sleep. My job is to take care of my community and my focus is really an health and safety and so ah some of the things that i do specifically out here in the east mountains in particular are making sure that our first responders have what they need in case anybody. Anybody has a health emergency or <hes>. There's a fire. I wanna make sure that our people are taken care of out here. I also wanna make sure sure that our roads are in good shape. We talked a little bit about the snows out here. Part of it is making sure that our roads get plowed in the winter. I also want to make sure that we have good clean accessible water because as you know that's an issue out here. We don't have city water like in albuquerque. So most people are on wells out here or some other kind of water. Some people actually bring their water in on a truck so i have to make sure that people's water's safe and there's just a lot of other things that commissioners do and <hes> one. What are the other things that i am really working out making sure that you all have internet service. You can do your homework out here. Wow you're in charge of internet service. Wow what does it look like. That is a great question because usually the day i have planned is never the day i end up having because i have a lot of meetings to go to because i really want to go out and talk to people in my district and really listen to them so i meet with people a lot and then i meet with people within the county to see how we can solve some of the problems that i'm hearing about. Is there yeah go ahead. What's your favorite part of being county commissioner. My favorite part is just meeting my people the people in my district and and in fact after a long day i will just like go and stop and talk to maybe a business owner in the east mountains and it just really lifts me up. That's the best part just meeting people one on one. Do you think working as a mental health counselor for your professional job is that is that a normal pathway way to public office. I i've never heard of that before. No that is a very rare breed and i have to tell you it's probably the worst back to back career choices because mental health therapist just sit there. We never talk about ourselves. We are very quiet and and being in in any elected role means. You really have to go out there. You have to talk about yourself in front of people and i have to tell you. I was really actually nervous about coming here today. But then i remembered something that my father said a long time ago which is charlene you have a face for aradio and and i thought this is just going to be a bigger way of me talking to my people so i'm very happy to be here today. Surly and for scotty oh yeah one more question sure come on up to the mic please so what has been your greatest struggle as a county commissioner. That's that is a really great question. I think having been elected just this year and having never ever ever been in politics before the learning curve was very steep just learning about all the things that go on in bernallio county there are so many different departments and our county slogan is burnley oconee is more than you think so that was the biggest part having to learn learn everything in a really short amount of time charlene piscotty commissioner for district five and bernallio county. Thank thank you so much for being with us on the children's hour. We really appreciate it. There is a story about a time. I was hiking through the desert to sound the desert in a beautiful colorful colorful butterfly came by to keep me company rocks rock solo around make up the walls. Make up ground. Uh if you listen real howard you can even hear you sal no no no nine in this explains that i does does cindy the over its own clothes and in my hand <music> getting so dirty but i do the sunshine sunshine in in my seems to blind or hypnotize hurt but one size as we cannot escape it one track flags their own my skin new a mass base and and and tried to beat them but they swing all the hills every which way <music> through the day with skies blue skies the zoo we will go home but the news we must images. This seem so unreal. They make me think they make me feel is in about the intense appease eases my thoughts elson mass does here whereas goose now look to the win all the dam holding onto this feeling in folding on along came. This beautiful colorful butterfly seemed most alone out of place as today just one scene seen beautiful stone <music> which makes me smile <music> <music> <music> butterfly thanks for making me smile <unk> <music> <music> uh-huh uh-huh and thou <music> eight gosh seth hoffman worth eastbound library and to harass new mexico. We're going to do some peter lenten and be back with you on the second right here at the east mountain library. This is peter linton and friends. I am proud mountain. The c. see i will stand up for all that believe and if i don't succeed on the first tenth will pick up again. I am proud of the mountain. Aw aw sea birds birds will pick up <hes> try again. I am to sign um. The stars will shine on you and you are ended <hes> fall doc the friend mosser gye again. I am <hes> guys the c and o b <hes> ah don't succeed on three matangi will myself up dry dry again <music> <hes> i am ridged larger full of good intentions will measure well then <hes> eh room listening man you. Do you all stand off aw that i do. I am proud mountain see i don't even i will be myself. I am <hes> mountain the see our status <music> for all believe and if i don't succeed on the first three jar jar i i am gaspar see the <hes> bandit <hes>. Don't you see on the. I dream job. I will try. I will pay jar. Peter lennon friends proud like mountain. That's the title track you're listening to the children's hour we are broadcasting from the east mountain library and to harass new mexico great crowd here but everyone's got a lot of ya ya. Can i hear ya ya yes we. We definitely do song's perfect because you get to move around like an animal and the psalm goes a little like this free to dance to this part and then when you hear the animal you dance like like that goes out in nate to live there maybe shape and every size. They live in the jungle russian desert walder's and sky. They walked back croly this and why what's bad attica something what gain it be over the coming towards me what kind of animal you ready to move like. The animal goes jump. Jim jones kangaroo jumps by john. John jump it jumps up before the jump. Jump jump jump kim jones. Don't jaw ban bon bon bon in the sun goes down those kangaroos get real sleepy and they lay down get quiet as can be indeed sound drifting off to sleep sleep. They think there might be another animal. Iryna dance out in the animals live very shame obey size in the xinjiang. What the goal they swim and they what's that the guy you something. What can it be <music> slid. There's live this snake slithers by the slid this before my eyes slit this the vigorously there and <hes> it stinks but then the sun goes down even those snakes again was sleepy in the rat brought down get quiet as can be and they don't make a sound because drifting to sleep the same. Maybe one more hannibal all maybe there is out in animals live vami shaping emmy yeah in the forest and the jungle desert wall does sky and they they swim and what's that i think here's something what gain it'd be from herat <music> go fly an eagle flies by flies uh-huh before my eyes lifelock lion ride those eagles use the sun goes down and even those e giver sleepy down get quiet as can be make a sound drifting off to sleep drifting off to sleep. Uh good ding do yeah the whole room dancing. I really thought you were gonna talk it. I really thought you were going to talk about the tarantulas you know because after all we just heard that there's restraints if i was in a room with about fifty huge tarantulas i i thought about that i was in breathing. It'd be like being in the hobbit in real life exactly well south hoffman performing for us on the children's hour here at the east mountain library and you you have so many songs seth all of which you've written your pretty pretty talented music writer there. Thank you katie and you teach children. I teach whoever's willing and teach me well. That's the way to be. Can you give us a little music bed. When we give some announcements here for audience that'd be awesome some the children's hour and then produced by katie stone and during this week provided by andres martinez says along with mark. You'll board who's in the studio up at k. u._n._m. Mardi adam smith is our coast predominant engineer manasseh officer and gary new l. Take our photos and the children and the kids p- routine team manages our our social media find us on instagram facebook and twitter where t._e._c._h._o. Radio we'll be back next week with another edition of in many thanks to the albuquerque bernallio county public library system. I'm just to note. They are sponsors of k. u._n._m. In albuquerque new mexico seth hoffman. Can you play a song for us that takes us away takes us out of here and send us all home with a happy heart and a song beat and songs just remind us just to go with the flow sometimes acts huts goo ga that just go with the flow knees home lafayette's doc. It's goo- did fluids. You'd be here with you with the common and again then you sit <music>. Stay with play with here we go. Oh aw knees bad knees lasts barrel ratted b-be again and then you <music> stay play that he took who <music> up ch- debited egidi go with the flow with it or at a few don't do with it be with the deal with the new c._e._o. Zero with louis or feudal new with it stay with play it again <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> the report the six five horses. It seems to beat her to eh meter wall and it is just you end up. We'll ask yeah coming. She'll be coming round. Take on round win. <music> <music> uh-huh <music> <music> <music> doc don't uh-huh <music> <music> they and the children's hour is a production of the children's hour incorporated a new mexico nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality kids public lick radio support provided by the friends of the children's hour more at children's our dot org there you can find our social media feeds pictures from our shows news podcasts and our contact form. Let us know what you think of the show. Y'all wolf is a proud supporter of the children's hour. Meow wolf creates immersive immersive experiences that transport audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic rome's story and exploration meow wolf dot com our theme music was written by c. 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New Mexico's Hollywood Video Murders

True Consequences

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New Mexico's Hollywood Video Murders

"The murder of jacqueline wallaby is a tragedy that is puzzled polarized the minds of those. Who do it over the past. Six months we've extensively investigated this case. Trolling through files. Trial transcripts and archives and have been conducting interviews with the people who've lived through it was a cessation startling fact that seven year old little girl shown up missing from suburban home. Something like that happening would have never crossed our parents minds. The notion that a stranger can slip into a charles bedroom in the middle of the night completely. Undetected assured a notion that every single parent on this earth fears. But what's even more lamentable is knowing that a child cutters roaming the streets an even more chilling. The koby someone you know by emily thompson and eileen mcfarland. This is the shattered window. I'd like to today's sponsor popcorn for sponsoring this episode checkout sponsorship opportunities and start. 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Little deeper consequences is a true crime and mystery podcast with stories based in new mexico and the american desert. Southwest i'm your host eric carter blondine. Hey everybody welcome back to another episode of true consequences. I've neglected my patriot. Shoutouts and i am so sorry for that. I am just the worst. I can't keep up with anything right now. But i do want to send a special thanks to michelle rebecca. Jackie patty lane matia. Sonia clare rachel and kathy. I appreciate you all so much and your support means so much to me. It also means that. I can continue creating content for you. I cannot tell you how much support to me. If you're interested in supporting this one man show please go to patriotdepot dot com slash true consequences or k. Dash f. I dot com slash consequences. I'm happy to inform you that there are brand new tears on patriot. Include free merch. The ten dollars here includes a free sticker. The twenty dollar tier includes a free t shirt and the twenty five dollars. Tier includes a free mug and even better. There's a thirty five dollar tier that includes a free hoodie. All tears come with ad free early access to episodes today's cases in extremely sad and tragic case. This is one that stuck with me and my adolescence. And i felt that it was important to tell this story. Because at once again illustrates how state new mexico has been struggling in dealing with criminal justice issues for a very long time i continued to say that the issues of criminal justice in new mexico are not new and this is another example. That shows we've never been good at holding repeat offenders accountable for their actions. Jail and prison overcrowding have been constant for mexico and as a result law makers. Continue to try to come up with new methods for reducing inmate populations and it seems like everything that they've tried has only resulted in more crime and more overpopulation. It's important to note that the efforts made to reduce overcrowding have yet to solve the problem. This case is the result of one such attempt to remedy the problem with overcrowding. It all started after the infamous prison riots of nineteen eighty which resulted in brutal mass murder and torture. In nineteen eighty-three the new mexico state legislature put into effect the community corrections act. The act seemed to be a good idea for most perspectives. It would only allow low risk. Inmates the opportunity to be released early based on good behavior and it place them into a program to help them from returning to crime. There was a budget to help them with housing and a program to assist with career counseling and job placement. But there were some caveats to the law. And i'm going to read you. A sample of law now quote the department may use the fund to place individuals eligible for probation or parole in community based settings the department may also use the fund to place criminal offenders within twelve months of eligibility for parole in community based settings provided the criminal offender has never been convicted of a felony offense involving the use of a firearm. The adele parole board may in its discretion require participation by a criminal vendor in a program as a condition parole pursuant to provisions of section. Thirty one dash. Twenty-one dash ten in s a nineteen seventy eight in every case where the commitment of a person to the department is contemplated by a sentencing judge and the offender meets criteria for placement in community corrections. A report shall be prepared by the adult probation and parole division of the department and shall at the request of the judge prepare report containing recommendations regarding a community corrections placement or completed diagnostic evaluation containing the recommendation of the department regarding that placement including a statement that the criminal offender has been approved for a program by the state or local selection panel. The sentencing judge shall consider the report or evaluation prior to making the commitment at a sentencing hearing if a judge or court of competent jurisdiction determines that placement in community corrections is appropriate the judge shall defer suspend the sentence and as a condition of probation an individual to serve a period of time. Any community corrections program. The department may place offender. Serving a term of probation or parole into a community corrections program offender meets the department's criteria for such a placement and the sentencing. Judge or parole board is not ordered otherwise. It's important to note that in order to qualify for the community correction program. The inmate would need to have not been convicted of a felony involving a firearm. There would either be a parole panel. Recommendation or a judge could decide to put the inmate in the program during sentencing. You might be wondering why. I'm talking about all this. The reason is that one of the primary suspects in this case was participating in the community corrections program prior to his involvement. In this case. So keep the details of this in mind as you listened to the rest of the story all right. Let's get into the case now. March third nineteen ninety-six in albuquerque. Was a normal late winter day. The weather was clear and sunny and the high reach sixty degrees fahrenheit. There was a slight breeze in the air. That meant many people would need a light sweater to keep from getting too cold mariah carey and boys to men song. Once weekday was number one in america bill clinton was president of the. Us and russia was at war with chechnya pokemon was introduced to the world for the first time just one month prior and the movie up close and personal with robert redford. Michelle pfeiffer had just been released on friday march first. It was a typical sunday. Foremost as usual families would be going to church in their sunday. Best in the late morning and they would likely be having meals with loved ones. Later in the day kids would be playing in local parks and playgrounds and pet owners. Were probably walking their dogs in neighborhoods streets for most people. It would be a normal sunday for the employees of the hollywood video store on san mateo. And zuni in southeast corner of albuquerque. It was going to be a horrific and bloody night today. I'm taking you through the brutal case that resulted in the death of five innocent victims. It's the case of hollywood video massacre on march third at around two a m to armed individuals entered the hollywood video store on san mateo and zuni with the intent to rob the store of all. Its cash the two subjects has been several nights casing the place and they were even noticed by one of the night managers on one of the nights that they were casing in the parking lot. Dimaggio noticed that they were watching her from the parking lot. She thought that they were very suspicious but before she could react. The car drove off and then the day before the actual robbery. The two suspects came back and tried to enter the store but the store had already closed. The male suspect was asking employees to open the door for him but she refused. He left angrily. The man his accomplice came back the next day and they were ready. They went into the store acting like normal customers. The female suspect was told tick the manager hostage and walker to the back of the store. The mail was going to get the other two employees in the pair. Were going to tie the three of them up while robbing the store. The females instructed to remove the vhs tapes from the security recording device everything was going to plan until the grandparents of one of the employs pulled into the parking lot to pick him up. The mail told the female to go to the vehicle and take the grandparents hostage while he finished. Robbing the place or the female was in a vehicle with the grandparents. Keeping them busy and distracted. She heard gunshots firing from inside the store. The mail had shot and killed all three employees in the video store. The mail ran out of the store. Enforce the elderly couple to let him in. He took them hostage in had his accomplice. Follow them in his car. He forced the couple to drive him to a remote area on the backside of the sandia mountains his accomplice falling the whole time he was determined to kill the elderly couple and he ordered his accomplice to do it. She claims that she resisted. And the male ended up carrying out the execution. He shot the man twice and the woman three times with a shotgun. He killed him but that wasn't enough for him. He went back to his vehicle grabbed his tech nine and shot the couple six more times. The female later claimed that the male tried to shoot her but he was all out of ammo. Nobody had any idea what happened at the video store until the next morning the opening crew members showed up at work and were surprised to see that one of the night crew workers cars was still in the parking lot. The two openers came into a messy scene of empty cash drawers stacked up and a safe that was wide open then. They walked to the back and saw their coworkers lying face down on the ground with blood pooling around them all three of them were dead nineteen year. Old zachary black lock eighteen year old. You wanna castio and thirty year old mylan dot. Meanwhile the family of the elderly couple became worried when they could not reach them by phone to family members. Went to the house. And notice that the couple's vehicle was gone then decided to head to hollywood video to see if their grandson zach blacklock knew what was going on instead they were met by police tape and detectives family described the grandparents to the detectives and explained that they would have arrived at the store to pickup sack after his shift. Police put out an alert for the public to be on the look out for the elderly couple and their vehicle but they did not know. Was it seventy four year old. Pauline and seventy seven year old. George mcdougall were already dead in the east mountains. Here's a quote from the official police report. I'm march fourth. Nineteen ninety-six sergeant. Nogales notify me. Of a violent crimes briefing at nine hundred hours regarding multiple homicides with occurred at the hollywood video located at three thirty three san mateo boulevard southeast. The briefing was attended by various. Violent crimes. Criminalistics personnel detective ortiz. The case agent advised all concerned personnel. What occurred the hollywood video store and at the time. The briefing was conducted. A description of possible vehicle that was involved was given the vehicle was described as a black or dark colored van with a marking on the rear passenger side window. The marking was described as a confederate flag or an ex detective ortiz. Advise at three store. Employees had been murdered and the us currency had been removed from the store. In addition there were two subjects who had been inside the store immediately prior to the store's closure on march third nineteen ninety-six. These subjects had not stepped forward as potential witnesses. Detective ortiz advised that other potential witnesses had been identified but these two individuals one male and female had not been identified. Detective ortiz gave descriptions of both subjects. In addition one of the victims zach. Blacklock was supposed to have been picked up by his grandparents after he got off work. His grandparents were not located at the video store. A description of the vehicle was also provided at the briefing myself and sergeant clinton peel were assigned to check several streets in the southeast heights for the van. Sergeant clinging pill told me that he had seen similar van in the five hundred block of texas northeast while he was in the area. On unrelated incident. Sergeant clinging pill myself proceeded to the five hundred block of texas northeast to check the area for the man. We located van which fit the general parameters of the initial description. I did however take a van in the parking lot at seventy nine. Zero nine marquette northeast. This van was dark. Green color with tinted windows and with the new mexico license plate. There was an eagle in the rear passenger side window. The vehicle was checked through. Nci see no further action was taken regarding the man at that time after checking other locations along central avenue sergeant clean pill myself proceeded to head east on. I forty we headed towards the east mountain area with the hope of spotting the van. Somewhere outside of albuquerque city limits after exiting i forty eastbound we proceeded on north fourteen and three bernalillo county sheriff's office vehicles proceeded ahead of us. All three of the vehicles had their emergency equipment. Engaged as we past ten mile marker on north fourteen all three bernallio county sheriff's office vehicles pulled off to the side of the road. We stopped to assist the deputies at that time. I observed a white two door vehicle parked on the side of the road. The vehicle was partially concealed by several shrubs. The vehicle matched the description of the car driven. By mister and mrs. mcdougal. I proceeded to speak with one of the officers. Deputy rogers who had already approached vehicle. Deputy rogers told me that he'd been approached by a citizen who advised him that one of the vehicles involved in the hollywood video incident was parked on the side of the road. Deputy roger proceeded to show me how he had approached the vehicle. I walked towards the vehicle. And i could see the keys. Were still in the ignition. Deputy rogers had walked around the vehicle and obtained the license plate number. Deputy rogers proceeded to check the license plate number through. Nccic to verify who the owners of the vehicle were then a citizen. Mr oliver had contacted bernallio county sheriff's office had remained at the scene. I was able to speak with him about what he had observed. Mr told me that he had been driving out to the. Va hospital at about six. Am at that time. He heard a news broadcast over koby radio regarding the incident on returning from the hospital. He noticed a white vehicle parked off the side of the road. Mr oliver approached the vehicle and was able to see the license plate and verify as the same one that he had heard on the broadcast earlier on the radio. Mr oliver stated that he was about thirty five feet away from the vehicle when he observed a license plate mr oliver located at b. c. s. o. Deputy and reported what he had seen. Mr oliver told me that he saw the vehicle on his way to the. Va hospital earlier around. Eight am but did not stop then. He decided to stop on the way. Back mr oliver remained at the scene until apd criminalistics personnel arrived process. The crime scene refer to a statement for further details. During my interview with mr oliver. I had him show me exactly where he had driven his vehicle. Walking to the side of the dirt. Path mr oliver had driven his vehicle. I observed how he had driven in behind the victims vehicle. While i was speaking of mr oliver sergeant. Clinging pill advised me that he had located two bodies a relatively short distance from the vehicle position face down on the ground. The bodies appear to be of an elderly couple according to sergeant until it appeared that the two bodies had several gunshot wounds. Sergeant clinging pill proceeded to contact the albuquerque police department main station by telephone and advise detective. Tease of the situation. Sergeant clinton pill myself remained at the crime scene until approximately eighteen hundred hours. In quote. police and city officials were feeling a ton of pressure to solve the case. The city was shaken by the gruesome events. Albuquerque citizens aren't used to this level of violence for five people to be executed in one night was unheard of scary. If you really wanna know the better term fear of going ongoing or get worse we've never had five people killed as a result of an armed robbery and the city of albuquerque. So we don't have an emo that matches this here. These crimes like no others. I've experienced in almost twenty years with the albuquerque. Police department have rocked. The very foundation of the city didn't really have much to go on in terms of finding the suspects there were some eye witnesses that were in the store at the same time as the two suspects and they gave a decent description of the male but they had a difficult time identifying the females description to sketches drawn up distributed throughout the city and on all major news media outlets but days continue to pass with no real leads on who was responsible for the murderous robbery. The city even started to take donations for reward fund which grew to one hundred thousand dollars and six days and there had been no movement on any leads until the award was announced. And that's when an anonymous tip came in from pueblo colorado. A man called police said that he had information regarding the recent hollywood video store murders so detectives and the district attorney decided to drive to pueblo to get his story. The man's name was john lewis l. And it turns out that he was wanted by the albuquerque police for an assault with a deadly weapon charge related to an incident that he had with a minor. He'd been on the run. He was determined to not only use his knowledge to his advantage in order to get some leeway on his charges as well as the warrant but he also wanted to cash in on that giant reward. This individual was romantically involved with the female suspect and he was friends with the male suspect. So as part of his deal he would have to testify in court against both suspects in exchange. He would not be charged with the assault and he would not have as parole revoked for using a gun in the assault. Police finally had their two suspects and they were shane. Glenn harrison and esther beckley. Let's take a quick break and we're back so let's look a little deeper. At both of these individuals. Shankland harrison was from tears. C. new mexico. He was adopted as an infant. No matter how much his family tried to show him love he always felt separate from them he was always an outsider and he was known for causing trouble for his criminal activity and the fact that he was a pathological. Liar shane was a repeat offender. Who had been in and out of the criminal justice system for years prior to the robbery at the video store. He was in grants new mexico at the state penitentiary serving a ten year sentence for armed robbery but he had recently been released from prison as part of the community corrections act and this is where the intricacies of that act are important. Shane had previous convictions. For armed robbery and was therefore technically not eligible to be released early. Because if you remember you cannot qualify if you've ever been arrested for felony involving a weapon but as we all know new mexico's not known for its ability to keep violent offenders off the streets and the late nineties were no exception in one thousand nine hundred five. Shane was released from prison and given financial assistance to get on his feet. This happened despite the fact that his psychological profile from prison stated in no uncertain terms that shame was prone to extreme violence. He had an obsession with guns and he was diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder and bipolar disorder. His prison psychologist recommended. The chain not be released early in the hebrew hell to the maximum possible sentence. He also recommended the shave placed in strict probation upon completion of his sentence. But none of this happened. Not only was he allowed to be released early but he was also given one of the lightest forms of probation that there was the time that there was at the time there were conditions to his release that included him not being allowed to possess any firearms nor was he to commit any crimes and he also had to stay free of drugs so after his release he moved into an apartment in albuquerque and even secured a job at a local convenience store but he was not satisfied with this job because he felt he was better than it. He really believed that. The convenience store job was beneath him so he created a resume that was completely fabricated in order to get a job at the local electric company known as pnm. He even lied about his felony record and for a while. Things were pretty good for shane but eventually he was found out and he was let go he continued to pretend as if everything was okay and told everyone about what a great job he had at. Pm like i said he was known as a pathological liar. He quickly made friends with a guy. He relied on for protection while in prison and while they weren't friends in prison became fast friends after they were released and this person was named john lasalle and john was also in a romantic relationship with another suspect. Esther beckley. let's look esther. Esther was serving five years for trafficking drugs in hobbs and was released early. She found herself in albuquerque around the same time as shane she needed to find work so she applied to wait tables at denny's on coors boulevard. She knew that she was a waitress and she was able to get the job. Despite her felony conviction she found herself falling for one of the men and the pearl group that she was in. You see it was against the rules to date other members but she just couldn't help herself. She was smitten. John lewis sell. John was the connection between both of the suspects and john claimed that he really didn't care for esther and only used her for money but she was in love with him and would do anything for him so at this point. Shane starting to get pretty desperate because after he lost his job he really wasn't willing to work just anywhere. He wanted to quote good job so he hatched a plan to get some money quick. He worked it out and decided that he would ask esther to help him to carry out the plan and he knew just the button to push for her. He told her that if she wanted to get money for john. He had the perfect way to do that for her. The two of them went to walmart purchased a bb gun. That looked exactly like a pistol. They were going to target a mac's steak in the rough restaurant. In the southeast heights of albuquerque. They decided they would follow the manager to the bank and steal the deposit from him. Esther was willing to do this because she wanted to impress her boyfriend by giving him money. They also had inside information as well. Because shane you one of the employees they started by casing the place and learning with the habits of the crew and the managers were. They tried to ambush the manager but he didn't go to the bank like they expected so they came back the next day and waited for the crew to leaf. Esther then pretended like she was running away from an abusive boyfriend and convinced the manager to open the door for her so that she could use the phone and that was when she held her on him and tied him up together. She didn't esther robbed the restaurant and able to get away with a little bit less than one thousand dollars. Here's a quote from the new mexico. Supreme court appeal that. Shane filed on february twenty third nineteen ninety-six. A man and woman robbed a mac's steak in the rough restaurant in albuquerque. An employee identified. The woman has beckley. Beckley testified that she in the defendant planned and carried out the robbery armed with a bb gun. That looked like a forty five caliber gun. The employees did not see the male robbers face but did hear male's voice to witnesses liza turner and john. The cell testified that the defendant had told each of them the he had robbed the restaurant sell live with and dated beckley and and then shame became even more brazen and brave and decided to buy some real guns so he purchased a shotgun and a tech nine pistol. You may remember that. One of the conditions of his release forbid him from possessing firearms. He was also forbidden from committing any crimes while on probation but he was determined to get as much money as possible so that he didn't have to work. He set his sights on a new target. The hollywood video store on san mateo boulevard. He convinced esther to commit the robbery with him. He told her it would just be exactly like mac's steak in the rough. They would get their money and leave without hurting anyone but he lied after the robbery. Esther was struggling to cope with what happened. She claims she never wanted to murder. Anyone and shane was the mastermind of all of it. She was so riddled with guilt that she confessed everything to her boyfriend. John the cell and that was how he learned the information which allowed him to turn them in to the police. Here's a quote from the police report about the processing of fingerprints at the video store quote. One hundred and two latent impressions were found to contain sufficient ridge characteristics to make an identification. The listed subjects into fingerprint. Cards were obtained from the identification files of the albuquerque. Police department and prince were provided and compared to those submitted. Latent impressions with following identification is made get dinovite lanes were found to have been created by the same person's who created the ink world impressions as they appear on the fingerprint cards identified as belonging to shane harrison that was taken march thirteenth nineteen ninety-six and march fourteenth nineteen ninety-six and ester c. Beckley that was taken march twelfth. Nineteen ninety-six as well as by the victims that were indicated and quote the prince. They found of the two suspects were only on his vehicle and not in the store but with the testimony of john as well as other witnesses police were able to create a strong case for the prosecute cows. Catherine the devon's kidnapping counts armed robbery. Two counts conspiracy to commit murder conspiracy to commit armed robbery conspiracy to commit tampering with evidence. Have you had an opportunity reviews review criminal complaint with your attorney or someone from your office protect penalty waiver. Form of the cops concur with maria. Mister good this team. Clearly she blonde should hill get secured on five million conditions not possess firearms dangerous weapons violating federal state and local laws notified of any change of address not leave the county friendliest of mexico without fire nation. J. contacted your attorney. Well contacted alleged victims. Will mr harrison charged with murder open campus over charged by tampering with evidence kidnapping robbery two counts conspiracy commit memory to commit murder conspiracy to commit robbery. Conspiracy tampering with evidence. Have you had an opportunity to review the criminal completely. You're for someone from your trades off test county be waiver. Formal reading waiver form reading. He has your honor. I'm standing in today for garin. Richard will be solvable. Clock conditions of release this declines looking days coupon of five million not possess firearms. Dangerous weapons not violate any federal state and local criminal. Laws notified came to address not to leave the county burnley mexico without permission. Maintain contact return contacting when may testify in this case. No contact with esther. Beckley never motion four lineup. Have you have not seen this position council. You committed to represent yes. We also awesome that. Mr harrison is to remain detention center. The police apprehended esther and chain. And both were uncooperative. And both denied having any involvement in the crime initially but then police found the weapons in chains apartment and confirm that those were the weapons that were used to execute the five victims in court both beckley. John lasalle testified against shane. Lady went over to them and now he's saying she shot her head shot domain the shut lady back to department some artifacts from the store to get it clinton won. He had touched. You got the clipboard. They went back to augment view. The video beckley was given a plea deal in exchange for her testimony against shane and she received a ninety five and a half year sentence in return for her testimony. Mexico versus nestor. Carol beckley cr ninety six zero zero one. I understand we have a change of plea. Haven't found the plane disposition. Agreement which has been entered into by the state thing defendant. Are you mrs. Miss esther carol beckley before. Accept your plea in this matter. I wanted to is you of your rights in the final. Make myself clear. Just say so first of all you realize you do not have to plead guilty in this case that you have right to a trial by jury before this court where the state would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you committed this crime. You understand that you understand that matters set for may fifth trial in this particular case. Understand that you have certain constitutional rights right to go to trial right to be represented by counsel right to confront the witnesses to call witnesses on your own behalf. One detail wasn't cardi has details. Good beckley admit to these. Are the facts in this particular case. You confirm that That if you were called you would testify as has been stated by your council. You may ask. Is i understand that you heard the new ring. The car with the mcdougals you heard shots coming from The hollywood video in did you realize that point that Is to harrison had shot the people inside and when you Left In the well when you got. When mr harrison came out to the car that you re in as i understand it you open the door so he could get in the car crash. She jerrisen asked. Mrs mcdougal's open the door. She's even told us that. Maker tolls card. What did you think was going to happen at that. Point would change to go trying in the car with them and from leaving our sound like somebody taking a hammer in on our started trying to figure out what to do. And that's when shame came running on the store with the technology his hand they had to kill him. Just only time on. I'm going to read you some of what she said in court now from harrison's appeal trial quote beckley testified that in her presence. The defendant bought a tech nine millimeter. Saudi matic pistol and ammunition for the weapon. He also purchased a shotgun and ammunition. These weapons were used in the five murders. Beckley testified that the defendant kept the tech nine the shotgun and two. Bb guns used in the restaurant robbery as well as one purchased following the robbery in a duffel back. The police recovered the duffel bag containing the murder weapons and bb guns. During a of the defendant's apartment near the time of the defendant's arrest beckley testified that she and the defendant plan to rob the video store the night before the robbery actually took place. She testified that she and the defending drove up to the store in the defendants black car and saw an employee locking the door. An employee testified that a black car with two people drove up. She identified the defendant stated that he came up to the doors attempted to pull them open and asked her to let him in. She refused telling him. The store was closed. The employee testified that he became upset and continue to ask to be let into the store but she did not let him in beckley testified that she and the defendant returned to the video store the following night at an earlier time the last customer that was in the store. The robbery testified that he saw white man about twenty five to thirty years old and a white woman in the store together. The customer positively identified esther beckley but did not identify the defendant in a lineup. Customer was shown a picture of the cell a forty seven year old black man and testify. The lasalle was definitely not the man he saw the store. The night of the robbery beckley testified the after the last customer left the video store she approached the manager. My lynn displayed her. Bb gun and forced her to go into the office of the back of the store in order to get the video surveillance tape which would show her. And the defendant in the store beckley stated that she retrieved the surveillance. Tape zachary black loch then into the office and beckley informed him that a robbery was taken place and instructed him. Not to move beckley testified. The it came to the back of the store with joanna. Steo beckley stated. The defendant pulled his bb gun out and took my land to the front of the store to get into the safe while beckley stayed in the back with the other two. Employees zachary informed beckley. The his grandparents were going to pick him up. Beckley then saw a car. Drive up and testified. The defendant told her to try to get into the car with the grandparents to prevent them from leaving beckley stated that she told the mcdougals zachary and the manager was still busy and she asked if she could join them in their car because she claimed her car heater did not work. She testified the mcdougals were very friendly towards her. They let her into the car and spoke with her while they waited. Pauline mcdougal was in the driver's seat and jordan mcdougal was in the passenger seat. Beckley stated that she could see into the store from the mcdougals car and that she saw the defendant and my lynn walking inside the store. She testified that she then heard gunshots. But the mcdougals did not appear to react to the sounds. Beckley testified that the defendant ran out of the store carrying a plastic trash bag and the tek nine. He threw the bag into his car. Brand paulie mcdougal side of the grandparents car and told her to open the window. she complied. He told her to open the door when it appeared that she would not do so. Defendant instructed beckley to force her to open the door. The defendant then instructed beckley to exit the vehicle and he got in the back seat. He told beckley to follow them driving his car. That testified the drove into the mountains and that the defendant and the mcdougals exited the car. She stated the defendant retrieved his shotgun from his car and walked with the mcdougals into the trees. Beckley recounted that george mcdougall turned to the defendant and that the defendant then shot him and pollen mcdougal several times with the shotgun. She testified that the defendant returned to the car through the shotgun into the car and told her the mcdougals were still making noise. The defendant then pulled the tech nine out of his pants returned to the mcdougals and shot them multiple times with tek nine. Although beckley testified at trial that the defendant shot mcdougall's. She testified that she had previously told the cell that she fired the shotgun herself. Beckley testified the as the defending drove his car away from the mcdougals car. Bottomed out in a rut. A detective testified that piece of the defendant's car was found at the macdougall murder scene and then shane's neighbor testified quote defendants neighbor. Who was out of town for part of the weekend of the murders testified that he returned home on saturday night and noticed that his black leather jacket was missing from his closet but when he returned home on sunday the jacka had been return. Beckley testified that defendant wore the neighbors jacket during the robberies. Defend had key to the neighbor's apartment and admitted that he borrowed the jacket that weekend. The neighbor testified that the defendant the defendant had previously told him that he knew the place which could be robbed and that people could get hurt in the robbery. The neighbor was with the defendant when the defendant bought the shotgun used in the murders. And the neighbor testified. The defendant told him that he was buying the shotgun to protect himself. Defendant offered contrary testimony stating that. He bought the shotgun for john the cell then john lasalle a prison. Acquaintance of the defendant testified that the defendant told him prior to the murders. The next committed an armed robbery. He would not leave witnesses a different acquaintance a man who had been in the county jail with a defendant testified the defendant described robbery which he committed at the los arcos restaurant and the defendant told him that if he had shot the witnesses who had eventually called the police he never would have been caught. Finally shane spoke defendant. Gave statement to the police upon his arrest on march twelfth nineteen ninety-six which was admitted as evidence in the defendant's trial. Defendant also testified at trial emitting the hid bought the shotgun and the technology which were used in the five murders and found in his apartment after his arrest. Defendant in a statement to police and in his testimony at trial claimed that beckley told him the beckley and others committed the crimes definitive trial that he had bought the guns for cell in the beckley took the guns. He testified that he lent his car and his neighbors jacket to beckley on the night of the crime and he stayed home by himself. He claimed that beckley came back to his apartment at approximately five. Am on sunday march third and told him he should get rid of the jacket because they had blood on defin- testified the beckley told him to change the tires of his car because it was used in the murders. He stated that he did buy new. Tires defendant testified that he another man drove to the mountains and the defendant dug up the guns which were in a black duffel bag and took them back to his apartment. In one thousand nine hundred eight a jury found the defendant guilty of nineteen counts but was unable to reach unanimous verdicts on three counts of murder for the death of deaths of jolanda. Custodio zachary blacklock and my lyndale t. The defendant was sentenced to two consecutive life terms plus an additional one hundred and ninety eight years totaling a term of two hundred and fifty eight years imprisonment. He appealed the ruling went to the new mexico supreme court. They denied his appeal. Here's what the supreme court said quote. We conclude that the trial court did not air by admitting lascelles testimony or the testimony of the polygraph expert. The trial court did not abuse its discretion by refusing to grant defendants motions for mistrial and his motion to reopen the case. Defendant failed to demonstrate. The defense counsel did not exercise the skill of a reasonably competent attorney and failed to meet his burden of showing that there is a reasonable probability that but for the counsel's deficient performance the result of the trial would have been different therefore we affirm defendants convictions and that is a horrible story of the hollywood video massacre. Thanks for listening and stay safe new mexico new sixty in the bud you are. She's sitting right next to maui. Thanks for listening to true consequences. Follow me on facebook and instagram. Atchoo consequences pod and on twitter at true cons. Pod consequences is listener supported. If you'd like to support this one man show please go to patriotdepot dot com slash true consequences. Thanks for listening and stay safe new mexico.

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That should be why you can understand why she would do it. Yeah that's why and that's a you know another thing about the criminal system that really sort of bothers me as is that basically. There's no skin in the game for so many people along the way and i can see why they don't want to do that but i can also see why how it can be a problem so when the victim has no skin in the game the prosecutor has no skin in the game. The cop has no skin in the game really ultimately nobody. There's nobody to stand up for this kid because nobody has any skin in the game. He pays defense attorney. And i've i've tried to get legislators to pass a bill that would allow a false report to be charged at the level of crime that the false report was made up so much. Better assist marissa's not that sexual stuff wouldn't be section. No you'd be charged with the level of felony sexual assault is jack. I think it's a great idea personally. That's my personal. 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Join our t. l. social mastodon at social dot. Freetalklive dot com. Free talk live. call in. Talk about whatever's on your mind this evening we've been talking about. Among other things consent this a victim centered justice elicited. A call from a law enforcement officer. Who talked about several cases that he had worked and One suggested he made. Was that a person who made an accusation. If that accusation was false should be held to the level of crime. That accusation was so if you made a capital one murder accusation was false. And i would. I would presume. You're talking about knowingly. False right like. I saw him raise a knife towards her. And then you know. It looked like he slashed down or whatever and he killed her and then you know it wasn't. It was a fake rubber knife. Or whatever i don't know i i don't think that there's too many juries that want to convict on something like that. Well i didn't see a dead body but you know. I think that it really comes to a story. 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We've got to david calling in here david from new mexico take this thing all right freetalklive. Yeah supporting evidence to the statements that were made earlier One they're already are If false reporting is already crime. However yeah i agree if you the the the crime false reporting should be elevated to the level of crime. You know whether it's a felony or whatever As opposed to simple misdemeanor depending on the false witness that you are bearing point number to remember that the dow shall bear false. Witness apparently was important enough for long enough. That it's in your ten commandments. And three in Family court custody court This is false. Allegations are so common especially false allegations of sexual abuse. Right are so common that they actually have a a name for it. It's called the silver bullet and Number four and that's the reason for that is because the level the threshold for proof in family court is significantly lower than there isn't a criminal court and in part because the punishment is considered to be lower. Because you know it is. You don't have you're not going to prison because of your simply losing custody of your children or whatever now you know the there doesn't seem to be much in the back and forth opportunity to You know confront a witness and these sorts of things and that makes it very very difficult. Please go ahead and and So moving moving on so. This is what i'm saying. Now is actually all in court record and i don't even need to name names other than my own name. But just name me david. Olson oil s o n birthday nine per year nineteen sixty four in new mexico courts dot gov case. Look up you can find me. And you can find everything that i'm referring to wait including the names of the people that i'm talking about so i didn't even have to name them and so one two three I had told you previously how the the dude that has been step. Parenting my children for the last decade was re recently charged and convicted of Sexual assault against my kid's mom and aggravated her by sun and in case day criminally charged criminally convicted. Yeah okay and yeah and In in that episode there was false allegations on one part of the other because she claimed that he did it and he claimed in his court records alibi and now and that's material because it was him and her that bear false witness against me on multiple occasions. I told you previously how when they wanted to restraining order against me what they did is they got to of their neighbors. A friend a neighbor to come into court and lie that they saw my vehicle drive by their house which would have been a violation of a no contact order and so they got a restraining order and then so now picked out evidence. And here's the kicker here's the fun one in the custody case with my children after it had been going on for like like three to august two years after it had already been going on for two years. My my my ex In the middle of all of this Suddenly makes an allegation that on the two the two occasions a year and a half apart when she got pregnant with my two children that those two events have sex. Were not consensual. And therefore i had no right to my own children because nonconsensual sex that caused pregnancies. If lawyer said hey he has a right to see his kids unless yeah well. Yeah because that's exactly how the new mexico statute reads. Is that the the the father that's trying to see. His children does has no parental rights. If the sex conceive the children with nonconsensual so you are entirely correct that is why she was claiming that those two events never mind the other six years of all the other sex. We had which was a lot so never mind all that. But the two. The two episodes that caused the children to be conceived nonconsensual. So let me ask you. This david If this situation happened with the What is this xs New husband With the criminal charges in those sorts of things does that any way. Change your case. Is that going to. Are you gonna be able to see your kids. How long's it been since you've seen your kids How does this all work. I mean do you even have some kind of recourse. Yeah i have. Yeah i have a recourse and it's been thirteen years since i've seen my kids. And yes i can use The the crimes that he committed Because remember he actually salted battered my son so and he did the other crimes in the presence of my son and my daughter and So i can use that. But i have not yet acted upon it. So what are you waiting for Well i don't want wanna tip my legal hand much but Thirteen years of fighting. These people has beaten me up quite a bit. And if you remember. I just finished a feeding rebel torres Journal bernallio county. Da on four different cases four times in a row where they've been beating me up for five years. I finally defeated all four of his attempts To charge me or to convict me. And so i've been dealing with that so that's taken away from my ability to do things for my children. Okay well i am curious to To see how it all works out in the long run. Thanks for the call. David yep six zero three two eight three six one six zero six three two eight three six one six zero sadly we don't have a system that prevents people from wild accusations I mean you know. I hope we do i lower. We're supposed to get extra court cases if we don't have that right. I must say that in libertarian. 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Ed should not be seen as disruptive right so the idea that a person who makes a contradiction doesn't remember something on the story is inconsistent. Should not in some way Disprove their story right. And which is what you would do as the defense attorney if you got them up there on stage well i think the d this is more police in the investigation. So a police officers looking for evidence to either support or deny the allegation. And they're going to say all right. Well sit down and tell me what happened. Well you said this happen and then you said this happened. How could that and that happen. These are contradictory. This sounds like waste of my time. I'll see you later. Nope not according to these principles not according to these principles and you know like this is one of the difficult things is. I mean you know not not every Circumstance as a young person and usually. That's what we're dealing with. Winter dealing with crime as people who tend to be younger has an opportunity to has the wherewithal the the presence of mind to say i dunno grandparent. Who has some better idea to handle these things. It's a good idea to get to the police as soon as when a rape has occurred. But it's also a good idea to get your lawyer there too so that they can help with this particular circumstance to go to the parents. I i don't know how many college kids have lawyers on retainer right so you know like i was always weird to me. I'm gonna call my lawyer. You just have one like. I don't have a lawyer guy to call them enough to look up. If i'm ever in that situation yeah well you do have a lawyer. It's the one you look up. Yeah at that point. Yes so One of the things that So we have the the guy talking about Law enforcement perspective on rape investigation. And what. He kept mentioning. Was that you to be unbiased. Pity that's impossible because the nature of human beings is that we have biases and what what's even worse that frequently. We don't even know what they are. I think you have to work hard to be as hard as you can to be unbiased and you know i. I got the impression from tim that he realized that there were better cops and worse cops and the people some of the people. I feel worst. The worst for in this world are the top. Ten percent of law enforcement officers out there. By my own estimation on what metrics are they. The top to my estimation okay and oftentimes they call into free live but you know yeah i mean it's it's got to be tough to work in this realm of in in many cases people go to a career for calling. In other cases people go to a career because that's where they ended up and you know sorry to say local law enforcement officer a bunch of students. Sure and if you happen to be the be plus student a student that Ends up the having calling towards this sort of career. Because you wanna see. I dunno more just peaceful world. It's gonna stink a job. Maybe early on i would. I would hope like from a career perspective that those people who are willing and able and want to excel in those careers would find fast tracks to those management levels positions where they actually could make a discernible. Difference there in a beat cop. Cer- interesting articles on the internet about why incompetence gets promoted inside government. Okay and so what actually seems to happen. Is that the best in by by sort of civilian estimations in these jobs can have the most difficult time rising through the ranks. I don't think that's always true. Okay because i have. I've worked with law enforce. I worked with law enforcement for years up and down the levels. And i can tell you that. Yeah there were smart people that randy's to rise through the ranks there were Dumb people that rose to the ranks. There were smart people to could not rise through the ranks. That's the part that surprises me and there were people that couldn't either but the smart people that couldn't you would think that you being the smart person you would discern the path right right and then maybe you have moral or philosophical objections to like walking that path. Yes which is fine. There's also the possibility that you lacked the necessary skills to walk that path. I mean there are a lot of very very intelligent people that lack social skills. Yeah okay right. I would say that You know if you wanna see somebody who can't walk a path who's very smart take look no further than the other founder of the show You know i mean simply cannot walk other people's paths But fiercely intelligent and you know very good at what he does but he has to go his own way through anything frankly including the show which amazingly is commendable in a lot situations. It's amazingly commendable and a lot of situations other times. It's just terribly frustrating absolutely a much-quoted guy. To fit states trauma victims often omit exaggerate or makeup information when trying to make sense of what happened to them or to fill gaps in memory. Now i've really got a problem with that You know. I mean like if you're going to omit And makeup information to make sense of what happened to them. I'm sorry i don't know what to do about that. Well that's more than the facts. Yeah it's it's the justification for what happened if you make a fact that's a problem. Okay my opinion i mean. It's immediately going to raise my suspicions. And i hate to say it but this is quite true. I mean this is some of the things that can happen to you. When you have a severe trauma and severe traumas can can break. A person's worldview like they can believe things have happened to them that cannot physically occur because something was so traumatic. Yeah and i think that it's I think many law enforcement officers most law enforcement officers will tell you that rape is just one of the most difficult crimes to prosecute. And there's nothing that you can do to make that not so that doesn't sort of break judicial system and i don't know what else to say about that you know like it's it's just unfortunate. Is it something that then just live with or is there a way to reform the process or the system. so that it's more judicial I think that you know the what is it is a black Anyway the the legal maximum. That says that it's better. That ten guilty men go free than one innocent man be. Convicted is probably what we ought to keep in mind. Most of the time. I would like to see a more perfect judicial system. But i wouldn't do it at the pains of throwing innocent people in jail. Okay but guilty people will going free then serves no justice to the victim or the accuser in this case right like they get no justice out of that nagler. Well he probably did it. There was reasonable. Doubt we couldn't convict Sorry you got raped right What they have found is that some oftentimes with private investigators That they'll get the victim will get the perpetrator on the line. And then begin talking about things and then the crime and then sort of suggesting they liked it and that sort of thing and then getting the perpetrator to admit facts. Okay and then recording this and then using it against them but this is this is a really great technique and that would lead to a guilty person being found guilty not a guilty person being. Let go if they did all that. I'm not looking to let guilty. People go looking to prevent innocent people from being convicted understood but the maximum is better to let ten guilty men go free and then you've got ten not looking to let ten guilty men go free. It is better to let bill de we should let ten mile high price. But what you're getting with it to keep innocent. People out of the prison system is worth such a high price is the idea not to the victim who gets no just well. And there is the fact that people who perpetrate these things have a tendency to repeat them. Yes so in order for me to get justice. Hopefully he goes out and someone remember the very best way to have crimes not be committed to be prepared for crimes and you know look for the paper is open and don't give situations six zero three two eight three six one six zero freetalklive. Why did you move to the shire. I moved here to the shire. Because there's other people around who take liberty justice seriously as i do. I moved to the shire. Because i saw videos of people challenging authority and thought that i could get support myself. It called to me like do this right now. I wanted to be around people like me. Who got it and once i got here i knew there was no i wanted to be. I've always wanted to change the world. 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The accused is automatically assumed to be guilty based on nothing more than the allegation principle to contradictions member gaps and inconsistencies in an accuser testimony symptoms of deep trauma and should not be seen as probative and finally number three Factors that cast doubt on the allegations such as an accusers. History of false allegations or drug use or not to be considered factors that cast doubt on the allegation such as c. n. accusers of false allegations or drug use are not to be considered. This creates an enormous problem in the if the case goes to trial of course yes. It is an enormous problem. And i'm sorry that's just anti-human Like we're just not. We're not the species for this. I i don't know what else to say. I would never let it enter my biases that you happen to be a crackhead that lies. All the time are liars not capable of telling the truth liars are absolutely. We are all liars. We all are capable of telling the truth. And it's absolutely true that a crackhead that has made multiple sexual assault allegations for a variety of reasons may actually have been sexually assaulted and may actually have gotten through the process. You know that it was so it wasn't disproven offer. Yeah absolutely these things could happen. So you d to discount that. No why not. Because she's made a person has made a lot of bad decision so the penalty for passing bad decisions is no current justice. That's correct okay. You need to understand to seriously. You need to understand that in life you read around calling. You know what happened to the kid who cried wolf the fricking wolf. Adm towns fault right was the almanac calls that boy to die. He went to the authorities came to them with the problem. They ignored his plight. That's because he was a little a whole. You know what the boy who cried wolf deserve. You want to finish this up. Is that humor lines. That's the general part. The arizona governor's commission to prevent violence against women issued a letter to arizona's criminal justice agency to explain in cases that proceed to trial. Defense council likely could impugn investigators and claim that alternative versions of the crime were ignored and or errors were made during an investigation as a result of confirmation bias that create created by did belief element of the start by believing campaign. What what what. A mess Yeah it's it's complicated. And i'm not gonna claim it's easy and i'm not claim it's nice but that's the way it is. Let's go bad slave calling in from new hampshire to these solve all this problem for us. So that's you're on free talk live. I appreciate that. Thank you for being there. Hey listen i. It seems to me a really really simple thing. I mean you know what we're dealing with here. Is you know the bigger more strong more aggressive bad guy and and smaller whether female or or just smaller male You know victims You know let's. Let's remove a huge portion of the imbalance at the get go and and and let's let's have everybody that the you know. The the the the hangs on their Mobile phones to also paying on to you know reasonable firearm. If design and been trained in the use of god made man. Sam colt made me cool. Is that your theory here. There there you go and and you know this this is at hand and and it just it just takes away with all this investigation and the trial and everything. Have you ever been in a circumstance where you wish everybody. There didn't have a gun I'm thinking of a party where people jenex. That's a real good question i would. I would say That in the short term you know in you know if everybody just kinda got out there and got their firearms and you know started working on their training. And everything's that in in in in the in the short term there might be a few bad circumstances but i think in the longer term. You know the understanding that that that most everyone will be armed. is is is going to you know. Be an ultimate calming. Would have to reform the self-defense laws in the process because there is a very a very narrow scope in which you can defend yourself with a firearm currently without elevating yourself tomorrow and and not not so much here in new answers spur. Well yes he hampshire. Like if i walked up to another man and punched him in the face right just me alone. He is not legally authorized to draw down on me for that assault. It doesn't it doesn't elevate to that level. He has his life because well but can textually if you try to rape that man. I'm pretty sure he's allowed to shoot. You still have to be a life threatening event really. yeah well life grave bodily harm or Well doesn't count as grave bodily harm well but it has to be a disabling. It's why are you claiming that being raped as disabling like you. Were going to be for a little while. I i don't know it seems to me that if if you managed if you shoot somebody you know with their pants down. They were after you or something. I think you've got a pretty good case. And if you're female yes because even better because the scope is different. Yeah and a lot of what would happened is is is that the you know. The guy would decide that he doesn't want to do the rape so bad right. I do think that you know. say open. Carry of weapons. A societal norm of open carry of weapons would probably dissuade certain Crimes in a certain amount of crimes. I'm also saying that it. It's probably just gonna wait us of all the people with mental illnesses pretty quickly. Because i can tell you that there are people that i have met in my life that if they had a gun in their hand the way they were acting in a given time i would feel threatened right like. That's it like that's just a little too much for me. They're they're just to looney. To to you know have a gun. Brandished appointed a threat. To your life. You that draw down you know. They're off their meds or whatever that you know. They're they're they're acting out in the world you know with no no community support To to to be dangerous and people that want that wanna act dangerous in front of all of us are you know. They're they're susceptible to the results. I mean There's the saying that the solution to a bad man with a gun is good man with a gun. And i mean there may be some wisdom to the idea that the solution to a madman with a gun is a sane man with a gun so You know people often wanna look at this second amendment. And i don't think crazy people should have guns. It's just a thought that. I have now the difficulty and including temporary insanity of When they're on acid. I think it's a bad i. That's a bad idea. They don't perhaps if they're microdosing. I don't know by self solving problem. Though because i with the gun is just going to brandish. all shop apparently are pretty cavalier with the notion of Dead people sons Lying on the floor because they had a gun You know and it. I don't think that america's quite ready for that level of callousness towards other folks. I i don't the difficulty is the difficulty is when the government. let me. let me go on here. The government decides to determine hussein and who's crazy stalin. Did that and it didn't go well for well. It didn't go well for anybody stalin. Well you don't have to go. The we have red flag loss right in a lot of places now where they go like. Well we think he's mentally incapable possessing working. Just gonna take it based on very bad based on an accusation. Yeah not evidence. Yeah don't like it. I say i would. I would rather that was occurring at the community level. Only not not anywhere above that the people that know the speaking of community good a social dot freetalklive dot com. 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It off is director of the colorado center for health and sports science and denver. He's also an avid golfer recently. He's been taking a long hard look at golf and aging at how golfers over fifty can turn back the clock and fight off father. Time was here last week with part one of that interview and today we will play part two before that russ holden returns to t- to grain for the past. Two decades russ has been raising money for a number of worthy causes and worthy charities around the country through a program called caddy for a cure. That's where you can bid to carry the bag for the best golfers in the world. On two of the three major pro tour's the pga tour and the lpga tour. It's an experience of a lifetime and you'll be helping make the world a better place to it's called caddy for a cure gearing up for a brand new season here in twenty twenty one and russ holden will be here to tell us all about that and some of their goals for the new year today on katie. 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We all want to stave off father time as long as we can and turn back the clock a little bit and if you're over fifty or under fifty it doesn't matter you'll be interested to hear part two of that interview with dr neal woke it up coming up later in the hour today but right now we are ready to go with our first guest standing. I on the to green hotline russ holden For nearly two decades now has been the man behind the curtain and a program called caddy for a cure. And it's a a program that basically gives you an opportunity to carry the bags to caddy for of the greatest players in the world and raise money for charity at the same time. We'll bring him on. Let him explain it a little better than that. But we've got russ hold him back with us today here on. Td green russ welcome back and happy new year to you my friend. Hey good morning. What a pleasure to be back on the show and thank you for the for the nice introduction and wishes in just really excited to be here with you today. So how many years now. Nineteen or twenty. What what tonight. Nineteen years hard to believe really that Were sitting here. Nineteen years later. That really just started with a passion From the heart that we wanted to make a difference and we saw some things in in in the world and society and life that we didn't like and we didn't have really much to give so we looked at whatever we did have to give and that was golfing in our insight and and asset access to. You know the world's best players as you mentioned in there i was cutting bernard langer For many years. And i i knew i was having a great time At the moment you know being inside the ropes with one of the world's best players in in my good friend bernhard. And i had an idea my wife and i had an idea and we went to the pga tour and we laid out a plan with them and we went to the government are s and got our five. Oh one c. Three status in order and here we are nineteen years later and and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of great experiences Through the years and We're we're we're again stun that we're here nearly two decades later as you mentioned. Well that's really interesting because I mentioned we've got. Neil woke adopt coming up later in the hour to talk about golf an aging and one of the guys that he points to and one of the guys we talk about in the interview. Which free prerecorded was bernard longer. And how at age sixty. Three's able to do what he does on on the not only the champion store but he made a good run at the master's back in november. Yeah he he. He really is amazing. He you know the augusta national. I had the great fortune of working with him Many years at augusta. And i can tell you that That golf course. Just does something for his Creative juices Knows obviously very very well and and much smarter In how to handle Augusta national and just just where where to where you can go and where you can't go and after gosh. I don't even know how many years it's now probably thirty five forty years. He's been playing there and i. It's it's really amazing how he's able to To do that and his body is held up well and he he works harder than everybody else. he just flat out Has that drive and has an initiative to To win and He works very very very hard. I know i know it very well on personally. Russ him with his from caddy for cure. Rescue i know you've in previous visits here to tita green. You told us the origin and how you got the inspiration for the program. But it's a great story and one that i'm sure you've told numerous times. Could you tell for our for our listeners. Who may not have caught it or hurt it the last time around how you got the inspiration to start this great program absolutely i'm pj member. I'm proud to say i'm the. Pj member now life number thirty five year member of the pj of american. I was working at a great club in boca raton. Florida called woodfield country club and We had a guy there. We've we've already talked about. his name. is bernard langer there and I had Hooked up a great friendship with him. Started out in secondary coaching position and caddied for him a little bit and one of my assistants who had been playing then for the california angels. Had doubled tommy. John surgery ended his pitching career and he wanted to be in the gulf business. So i hired him and we became best of friends Very quickly. I knew that he was going to be a life. Friend and shortly thereafter about ten months later His wife susan gave birth to their second child on august. Twenty fifth nineteen ninety-three Christian collins was born and he was born with a rare bone marrow. Disorder called fanconi anemia. And there's a lot of birth defects that come along with the disease and the christian was very very small. And i know that the first time i laid eyes on him i knew that somehow somewhere i wanted to make an impact on this disease Kinda fast forward there. I was working with bernhardt. Caddying and in getting enjoy this great life out on the pga tour and their their fifth child. Their fifth boy was born kaelin collins on july second nineteen ninety eight and that kind of field deal for me so to speak that He was also born with. Excuse me we call it. Fa fanconi anemia and he had all the attributes that come along with the disease again. And i said You know we. We have to do something about this. So as i mentioned my wife and i sat down and had an idea. What would happen if you know. Average golfer come inside the ropes and and take my place for a day on monday. Tuesday or wednesday could come inside and carry the bag and find out what it's like you know to be a pga tour caddy and work with one of these great players for a day and That's where it was born and You know the tour. Listen to us very closely. Gave us a a real once over. We went back and forth for quite a long time and They started out and gave us a very short leash and the first year out of the out of the gate. We were a huge success. The impact on the players on the tournaments on the people themselves was immensely profoundly. Great and The tour gave us a little bit longer leash and again As we've said many times here we are twenty years later still doing caddy for care. And that's why it has lasted as long as it has no secret there. What other charities besides fanconi anemia to work with. Well you know. What's what's really compelling with us. I was carrying for bernhard. One year down into the leroy. Texas open Then at lacantera and the pj toward being incredibly military patriotic Very appreciative of our men and women who serve this great country Took six young men down the range Right next to the brooke medical center which is where a lot of our our wounded. come either. Come to walter reed or they come to brooke medical in san antonio but they had the walk six young men down the range that all whilst legs fighting for for our country and They they were meeting and greeting all the players and everything. And you know Frank lickliter was standing right next to us and he said it best he said you know just because these men or women have had a tragic accident doesn't mean that they're still not in love with the game of golf and not fascinated to watch the best players in the game and and when he said that Looked at these young men and they were right about the same age as my son. My oldest son brandon and i was just Incredibly inspired. And i said well if if if the average golfer can come out and caddie per se rickie fowler. Why couldn't he or she escorted by a wounded servicemember so I went to the tour again. Laid out my plan. It took them about three mega seconds to say we love that and I it started a metamorphosis. If you will of our program the impetus will always be in. Coney nimia but Now we've we've kind of morphed into a military initiative That we take great pride and bringing wounded out to two events and giving them an inside the ropes behind the scene. Look at golf professional golf at its highest level and Again that's proved to be incredibly successful in life. Impacting for many many men and women coming up up on a break here but before we go to the break i want to ask you. How has the program started this year. I know the the the turn the tours you work with debut just recently. They're twenty twenty one schedules. Have you started the program this year. Yep well we're always we're always working. You know even even when the when the when the day ends when he caddy day ends especially with our wounded that We like to consider it that that that's just the beginning of our friendship and the work that we do behind the scenes working with with men and women and their games and golf and just staying in touch with them in their lives but as far as our day to day. No we haven't started yet this year and we're looking forward to that great day that We can get back to relative normal and Have programs and have people and cans and everything like that were We're in and we're looking forward to that great day soon. Hopefully relative normal. I like that where. I'm ready for that as well. The rest rest of the world is we are talking to russ hold in. The program called caddy cure. We're gonna take a break here and on the other side will ask him how it actually works and how you can get involved and how. 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Call now for your free consultation. Eight hundred six nine three eight two nine zero eight hundred six nine three eight two nine eight hundred six nine three eight two nine. Oh that's eight hundred six nine three eighty to ninety katie green. The golf show now on sirius channel to seventeen. Xm channel two or three and the sirius xm app. It's where we talk golf. Twenty four seven fifty two weeks a year and our guests right now. We go back to is russ. Holden russ is with the program called catty for cure. Maybe you've heard of it. Maybe you haven't but it's been around nearly two decades now and it's a way to raise money for charities a couple that we talked about in our first segment and Also for folks who participate It's a chance to experience the once in a lifetime. Thrill of caddying for some of the best players on the planet russ holden with us today here on teetering Before we go any further tell us how it works and what people can do if they're interested in getting involved. Sure when we get back to when we get back to work here and we get back to normal We have a great site caddy for a cure dot com as you explained and we spell it with a y. C. a. d. y. f. o. r. a. c. u. r. e. dot com caddy for dot com. You can go there and see a list of players that we have available at the venues that they've agreed to do and We'll go ahead and take it from there We have an auction Format going on but Most most prominently what. What typically happens is a person will. We'll find out about us and they'll they'll go to our site and then they'll simply contact us and say they have a favorite player and then we'll try to work out a venue that would work. I work with that player and see if they're available and if it works with their schedule they're going to play that week and then we'll kind of what we call make marriage happen and The rest is all planning We typically will have guests come in on on a monday or tuesday. Tuesday's a great day that we take them through the equipment trailers. we'd take them in the locker room. We take them up and down the range they get to meet a lot of players They'll of course meet the player that they're gonna caddy for as well as the caddy and then we'll just have a great time. It's a really unscheduled free day that is wonderful and then we'll make our plan for wednesday. We typically do our for cure experience on wednesday and whatever time there Teatime is in the pro-am it's o'clock or twelve o'clock. Whatever will typically meet about an hour in advance and from their year the caddy and We tell people that you can get as involved or is as you want if you wanna do the yardages and things like that you can if you don't want to you don't have to and now the tour cat. He goes along with you. So if you find that it's maybe a little bit more laborious or a little bit harder than you thought by all means a caddie will step in and help you out a little bit and give you a break for or two and then we also always have our wounded escort that comes along with you and they can also help out as well so pretty fabulous day. It's it's a great insight and it's a different perspective than playing with the tour professional because you're actually part of the team for the day and again Day of a lifetime really. Yeah but that sounds like a good time. Where do i sign up. We love to have you on a bag. That'd be terrific literally. Were sign up to go to the website. Or how does that work. Absolutely go to our website and again you'll see all the players that we have available we have none right now Again looking forward to normal but on a once we get back to to reality here in in light turns back to normal. We'll we'll have players up there and again Go to caddy for cure. Contact is right there We encourage you. Send me an email us the contact form. Give me a call. My phone numbers right. They're happy to talk you through it and we'll work out something and work out. A nice charitable donation for you to go to our many charities like birdies for the brave fan coney research fund and and several other charities that we help across the world and spectrum of the pga tour. And we'll work it out for you that you'll have a darn good time. That's for sure that's catty for cure. Dot com caddy c. a. d. d. y. So your program affected. Obviously by covid. Last year wasn't it wasn't not. It really was. Yeah we had a great experience with roy mcelroy at bay hill We had a wounded warrior. It came in Sergeant jeff mall. terrific Young man that had seen the whole gamut When he came back he was left. Homeless had some severe Emotional issues and whatnot from his service and You know really never saw life beyond that and what a story of recovery That he was found. I am a marine and a homeless shelter. That got him got him involved in another program at a rescue and turn his whole life around. And now he's he's wonderfully married to a lovely lovely woman and they've just had their first child last year and jeff's Recovery was amazing. But he got to caddy for number one in the world at the time rory mcelroy and we had some great interchanges with some other great players rickie fowler bubba watson phil mickelson had Probably close to five minute exchange with them on the first tee as we were going to number ten and stopped and gave him a glove and pose for pictures and ask them all about his life and I didn't know we didn't know. At the time. I was gonna be our last cat for a cure experience for quite some time now but What a way to go out and Obviously nobody knew what was ahead. In a couple of weeks later are you still working with both. Lpga and the pga tour we do. We love the pga I'm kinda. I'm kinda biased. Data daughter right now. Kayla playing for the university of tennessee that has her sights On playing golf beyond college and You know we've grown up In in really become a huge fan of women's golf and there's been so many of the girls and ladies on the lbj tour that have been just huge supporters of us lexi thompson Growing up right here in our hometown of coral springs florida He's a huge supporter. Lydia ko Helped us out a couple of years ago as we gave a young marine mortgage free home Catty tough for her. Over at the tournament In naples and was she was all in on the secret That he didn't know was getting house but that was able to be pulled off. Thanks dick. Great young lydia. Ko what a great lady. But there's so many girls on the lpga tour. They're supportive of what we do and have helped out through the years. And frankly if you don't tell anybody. I'm i like them as much more than even the great stars. That are out in pga tour. It's just so much fun. Being out on the lpga tour we love the ladies tour here on td green as well and every chance we get we talk about bottom and try to help them out hold him with us from caddy for a cure and Rushed to something else that i noticed looking over your website recently that i wasn't aware of previously i don't know if i missed it totally or if it's something brand new but a program called clubs for charity what's that all about. It is a new program we We came up with Last year during cova that was one of the if there is such a thing a good thing that came out of covid that We figured that If anybody else was like like me We have a bunch of golf clubs laying around our house and my wife would love me to To basically get rid of most all of them if not all of them and we figured out a way that we work with our partners up in minnesota at second swing golf. We sat down with them and developed a great program. they have incredible In insight as to the world of us golf clubs and whatnot and and we figured out a way that you could actually donate your golf clubs to any charity. Not just the ones that we have. We have plenty of them to suggest if you don't have one but if you have a favorite charity of any sort whether it be supporting first responders or canine or anything whatsoever we you know as long as earn established five. Oh one c. Three charity you can send your clubs and we'll even pay for the freight To bring the clubs in and we'll give you value for those and that that those clubs will be turned into cash and then gifted to that charity of your choice clubs for charity and It's been it's been overwhelming Response from people that are looking to You know maybe clean out their garage or clean out their houses. I said and and be able to make a difference and we came up with the catch. Raise your clubs have never done so much good So it's a way for you to to donate without necessarily hitting the hip and and having to come up with cash. It's money that's already been spent just laying around the house collecting dust so go to our site look up clubs for charity dot com And we'll be. We'll be happy to help you out with with getting rid of some of your old stuff sitting around. It's a win win for everybody there. Another great idea clubs for charity. You can find out more at caddy for cure dot com nineteen years and going strong ca. I i imagine there's been hundreds and hundreds of people that have gotten involved There really have been i. It's it's really overwhelming at our annual tournament. We have a fourteen years we've been hosting. Were part of the liberty mutual insurance network of tournaments that they host on a national basis and last year. We put together a little video. And i thought well this would be cool just to put all the pictures up there of all the people that have participated in it. It actually made my eyes water a few times looking back. Remember everybody's by name and remember every situation each one's like a snowflake it's a completely different and unique from the next one but The memories that have occurred and and and really the impact it's had On so many people Again sitting back twenty years ago. We just wanted to help. We just wanted to make a difference. And like i said we did whatever we had used whatever we had. Hopefully we've done a decent job of that and look there you go well. Obviously the results speak for themselves caddy for a cure nineteen years and going strong caddy for a cure dot com for more info. That's russ holding back with us today on. Td green are you looking for great sports memorabilia with the fastest shipping industry checkout auction of champions dot com the fastest growing sports memorabilia. 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Here's the pitch by downing swinging. Drive failed off home. Run champion of all time fireworks going head. Riera just coming around third teammates at home plate lesson. This round not cloud is teresa riera. Homerun pay all time seven fifteen. What a great moment and everybody. I'm sure over the age of what fifty five or so remembers where they were when they were able to watch. That actually live on television. I know this is golf show but we couldn't let the moment pass without a tricky to Gentleman and i mean that worst sincerely who was a hall of famer both on and off the field who we lost just a couple of days ago. The great hank aaron. It's tita green your top source for gulf news and entertainment on the radio online. And on your smartphone. i'm jay ricci going solo today. You know we're all getting older. There's no way around it. Jim morrison famously. Once said no one gets out of here alive. And if you're a golfer over the age of fifty you probably noticed. Maybe you don't hit the ball as far as you did when you were younger. You can't play two three or four days in a row anymore and some things in golf. That depend on motor skills like putting in shipping. Maybe you're not as sharp as you used to be. Well if you cut last sunday show you heard play part one of our interview with a good friend. Neil woken up. The woke it out is the director of the colorado center for health and sport sciences in denver and he has a new website called living vital dot org. He's also an avid golfer. And on that website. He's looking at the science behind golf and aging and the connection between your brain and getting old. It's called epa genetics. How your brain age can be very different from your chronological age. For example you can be sixty years old but your brain age and consequently how you behave and how you at can be forty five or fifty years old or conversely you can be sixty years old and your brain age and how you act can be seventy or seventy five years old well. Dr neal says you can control that by what you eat. How much exercise you get. How much sleep you get. How much stress there is in your life. There are also other factors such as family and friends that affected that affect your brain and your brain age and today on part two of how to turn back the clock we visit again with. Dr neal woke it up. We're talking about turning back. The clock gaining vitality living with neil. Walk it off. The website is called living vital living vinyl dot org. And i think if anybody neal is skeptical about the connection between epa genetics and golf while they have to do is look at bernard longer in what he's doing. Yeah and he's a really good example that she was in contention dates sixty three and he kind of all of the things going for me eat consistently he exercises consistently place consistently but the other thing is that a lot of And a contrast is kind of with A movie that's popular a while back grumpy. Old men or grumpier old. I forget what it was but they were pretty grumpy. But he has a very defined face structure things. All those things are really consistent. And i think that's another thing that really comes into play that i deal with people in the program go well. What's your social structure julia friends. Maybe your friends are great or maybe it's need some new friends that does come up on the people that were great friends at forty or maybe not the great friends you thought they were seventy have different needs so he has all that's excellent domino's and he only asked to do is go out and play golf because he's got a wonderful family structure. He's got all the things into modifying genetic terms of license. He's got maybe a few things he could do better. But but the big thing after fifty is be consistent and the one thing that no renar ziying they will tell you that incredibly consistent any same person now that he was told three. And you can't say that for well at it's in some ways that that is hard to do because when you're thirty three or forty three. Your life has different. You're you're working hard charging you're trying to climb to the top so to speak and when you hit fifty or sixty or older than that maybe you're winding down your worklife you're retired and so you're you're your lifestyle is a lot different well and i think we should maybe retirement and so good work on people Sent be done to the fact that i said look so the reason but what. We do a cocker assessment or down is simply that you aren't going through the same process as managing company thinking about your project that you're before you're going need to come up with some way mentally to do that so so i think the target playing golf and then expecting goes to house all the just for example in our area fewer rocket scientists play golf. Bruins gonna go to. The hamptons does not the about a simulation that's leading when you're plunging rock at the very kind of only the top off mood example but it gives you a pretty good idea of on the ever. Yeah i found a line on your website. In one of your blogs said a little stress kicks the body into a higher gear to fight off aging. It does and so you wanna you want things that are little bit uncomfortable. Not so uncomfortable. You throw in the towel and and do that. So it's like a new exercise here. There sometimes going a little faster on the bike. You know playing a different golf course would be a great experience apple of what you could do i. I think it's always good to just go play of course to do it. Go play some place that you've never played before and go. Kay i'm gonna play. I'm gonna see what i get and then you just look at it and go okay. It says this what i remember early. Golf career Used to play play. Sarah deborah and get to know about called bear creek may the hardest course in the area. The guy that guilt course didn't put it in the yard marker so you played scottish golf you kinda looked at it and you don't well it might be a hundred and forty five yards but today with the wind and And and where it is worth. Ten is on the three tier green. I've got hit a six or five and you got really good at those kinds of skills. And that's what. I think. I different gulf course. Does her people when they play it. And i think there's that idea of just plain one all the time and really getting to know it and yeah i'm not so sure that's the best thing for your brain. You know what. That's a great great point You know it's great that you're out there playing golf course all the time. Maybe like you said not all that great for your brain now you you talked about program and testing in the program. Tell us about the program. Well i have. I have a four month program. And what's different about that. That say for example. Seeing a functional medicine sedition most functional medicine physicians. There are that many of them will say okay. Come in. you're going to go through a whole day of testing. We're going to give you a report of what to do. And i go. Well that's number of people that can assimilate all that information into the lifestyles probably about less than half a percent. So what. I did with the program as i said. Here's the latest research physiology brain health tracing and we're going to little basement as we go and then i'm gonna give client patient draft one thing to work on the next week so i had a fellow. Just go through. The program just got started and we decided that his personal profile is really good except for two things he needed. The wasn't really having enough that skills at dinner so this is a simple. Sometimes it is. I said okay instead of one batch inner. It's too and it's this much. And i said at lunch instead of half an apple when to switch up on some days and have grapes with your lunch and some days having orange and i said then you trish traditional profile is really good and he said that's all there is well. That's all you needed to work on. So that's so that's going to be easy for me to do because it's remember a goal so i think whether it's cardiovascular exercise strengthen of rain or supplements or anything we do. I like to get to the ten percent that makes the ninety percent of difference but that it's easy to the number sagana week and that's all i do is go through. That's meant find out what they do. And then the other thing. That's a little bit different about what i do is i. Don't take the place. If i worked with their physician And find out what they're gonna case in some with their issues are surgery or other things. They've had happened their lifestyle. They're concerned about And then make the physician kind of an approving partner in the whole say because most people when you get down to it. They found doctrines that they don't want to change either. I just want to help dr more effective and I will tell you. Ninety nine point ninety nine percent of the time. The physician knows what these things are but doesn't know how to apply them so they'll happy to get the help okay last question. How can people find out more about your program eating it. And it's really simple to do. They go to my website living vital dot org read about it and it's not a very complex website. It's designed to be here. How that the things that we look at work and then if they're further interested they sent me an email through the website. I sent him a surveymonkey forum that ask them some questions about goals in life site Lifestyle factors and then we schedule a twenty minute no-obligation call and they say look. You're a good candidate for these reasons. These two areas. I can't help you with these areas. We can make a major pack and this is how we would do it and then if they don't fit And they've already doing all the stuff i say and i do. I've seen a few of those clear in there now lot. I say i can't really help you. I don't wanna take your money. And then at least they learned something about where they're at what ought to do but it's all about being tuned to them and if it's not right for them it's not right for them. That's one of my mantras about this stuff is it's all about personal application living vital turning back the clock that's steel woke it up neal. Thanks for doing this. Great job and many. Go ahead to you my friend day and many back to you dr neil. That's meal located off. Phd one of our favorite guests the director of the colorado center for health and sports science out of denver. And every time. I get neil on the show we plan on doing. Oh say seven eight nine ten minutes on whatever topic we're going to do and we ended up talking for like twenty minutes so Was able to do. And i'm glad i decided to do it. That way was break it up into two parts. We had part one of the interview last week. Part two of the interview this weekend. I hope you got something out of something valuable you were able to take from it especially if you're a golfer over the age of fifty and you're trying to stave off father time a little bit and turn back the clock a little bit and not let your golf game go to hell totally just because you're getting a little older and even if you're a golfer under fifty there was plenty to take out of that because hey you're getting older there's no way around it there's no getting around it and Good advice there from dr neil. Woken up interesting. He was talking about bernard longer is a perfect example Longer who now plays on the champions tour for golfers fifty and over is sixty three years old and still going strong. He competed in the masters in november with all the young guys and made a great run there and the first tournament on the champions tour just concluded over in hawaii and bernard longer sixty three heading to the age of sixty four finished in fifth place at ten under par so he's still going strong defying father. Time as well bernard longer and we're gonna check We're gonna check the results of that event and all of the pro golf tours which all three major tours were back in action this weekend for the first time in a while and for the first time in twenty twenty one. And we'll do that when we come back here on. Td green stay. Hey travelers do you want to save money on your next flight. Sim pick up the phone and call. That's right call because the best prices are not online. They're with smartfares sleet. Smartfares has special deals with the airlines. When they have unsold seats they use smartfares to them. So you get airline tickets at ridiculously low prices. 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So this was over in. Darren clarke your winter. Darren clarke finished at twenty one hundred part. Tif goosen two shots back. Nineteen under jerry. Kelly two shots behind him at seventeen under and fred couples under par. Two shots behind Jerry kelly and six shots behind the winner garin clark over in hawaii. The first event on the lpga tour is the diamond resorts international championship at lake. Buena vista florida. Just outside of disney land and danielle king has the lead going into the final round today. Twenty one under par jessica korda made big news yesterday. Though she shot a sixty only the fifth player in women's professional golf history to shoot a sixty around of sixty. She went out in thirty two came back in twenty eight for her round of sixty that left her at nineteen under par. Two shots behind king the leader. Her sister nelly korda is in third place at fifteen under bar and the regular. Pga tour guys. They are in the desert palm desert. California in la quinta california for the american express. Max homa and see kim tied for the lead at fifteen under par with tony fee now heading into the final round today. Hey that's gonna do it for today's show. Thanks to our great guests. Of course neil woke it off. Dr neil talking about golf. In aging living vital dot org the website to find out more and russ holden with caddy for cure caddy for cure dot com to get more information there. That's c. a. d. d. y. Wait job from scott. Cutty master control. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks for listening. You're listening to the heartland news. Feed ready network at live dot hotlanta newsfeed dot com. The stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by us follow us on facebook twitter and instagram new service doing newscasts our twenty fifth. Twenty twenty one. I'm mike clifford the. Us house of representatives is delivering the articles of impeachment against former president. Donald trump to the senate. Today trump is accused of inciting the riot at the capital january the six to stop the certification of the election connecticut. Senator richard blumenthal says the trial in. The senate should begin within weeks arguing. An indefinite delay serves no one present. Nee need but very limited time to organize his defense but the country deserves a prompt trial. Many republicans have argued the trolleys unnecessary because trump is already out of office. President joe biden is demanding. Quick action on hunger are andrew. Sears reports have many new yorkers who are receiving snap and pandemic. Edt will beginning increases in their benefits. An estimated twenty nine million adults at least eight million children nationwide or experiencing food insecurity because of the pandemic on friday president joe biden signed an executive order directing the agriculture department to allow states to increase snap benefits to the lowest income recipients and to raise emergency benefits for families whose children would normally be getting free meals at school by fifteen percent tool berm. Ceo of free. America says that should benefit at least three million new yorkers biggest administrative staff to fight hunger than any administration has taken really in the modern era. At least since the great society programs the white house says the fifteen percent increase in pandemic. Edt benefits could give a family of three about one hundred five dollars more to buy food over two months meantime in a few weeks. The usda ron farmers to family's food box program resume we get perspective. Who kentucky and nadia robbery gone. Anti hunger advocates. Say the situation is dire for families especially for children. Many of whom are remote learning and don't have access to regular school meals household. Food insecurity continues to soar statewide and some counties have reported up to thirty five to forty percent increases in need kentucky state director with. Save the children. Eliza taylor says rural communities in particular face several logistical challenges. The boxers are delivered on semi tractor trailers of getting those into these communities that are far off. The beaten past is more and more difficult so we really have to work go. She ate and make sure we have volunteers on the ground. Standing by to unload and distribute them she notes the program currently has a wait list. Save the children and ag tech company harvest recently distributed hydroponic plant kits to sixteen hundred kids in eastern kentucky. So they can try growing produce indoors. 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Say that's why another ten years of funding is needed is unclear whether republican leaders would back the move fevers recommends it some raised concerns about debt obligations tied to the program. I'm mike mohan finally kicking off reports public. You win this week on experimental nuclear reactor. That could be coming to the idaho national laboratory. The us department of energy has released a draft environmental impact statement for a new design known as a versatile nuclear reactor the dot says. It will be used to test nuclear energy. Innovations helping to push the sector forward but edwin lyman director of nuclear power safety with the union of concerned. Scientists believes its construction. Would pose risks for eastern idaho. People should ask questions about whether the deal has really done. The accident analysis that needs to be honest with the people about the potential consequences of accidents. Reactor versatile nuclear reactor is cooled by liquid sodium. 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Plan a guy that is going to be having an opportunity to be a legend. I shouldn't have whether or not. It was going to be aaron rodgers for tom brady. Playing patrick mahomes. Tom brady gets it done for the tampa. Bay buccaneers thirty one. Twenty six green bay. Packers patrick mahomes and the kansas city chiefs. Get it done over the bills. Thirty eight to twenty four couple. The big stories of the day may not even be the fact that those two teams one. It might be how they won. The green bay packers had an opportunity for down. Late in the ballgame to score a touchdown and they decide to kick a field goal. Not sure what. The thought process was at that moment in time. Knowing you need to score a touchdown feel does you. No good so the real question to me is what the heck was going on with matt lafleur and why in the hell did he not give the ball to the guy. Who's the best player on the field in aaron rodgers. And how in the hell do you put that on your defense to get a stop and maybe never get the ball back. And then patrick mahomes. Wow what a performance from that guy once again. Dudes going back to the super bowl. What what else can i say. Other than i hear the music. I gotta take a break. I'll do that. i'll come back. I'll wrap about the. Nfl rewind conference championship style. Right here sports. Over at america with me. Anti-tory i'll be right back took. Hey what do you want to god at all. I don't know what are we does astronaut yesterday. All the dossier like like said on monday. Or tuesday diana's birth these days. Nothing is normal and everything is weird but you can still save big when you switch to progressive. That won't change not to or any done. Progressive dot com casualty insurance company and affiliates. If you owe the irs vaccines dealt worry. There's a bright side. 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Facebook or sports instagram. It's the real door phone sports. Check me out there. let's talk. Let's wrap about the nfl conference championship games. Man one leg one last game left the super bowl super bowl fifty five tampa bay go figure. Tampa bay tampa. Tom and the guys go to green bay. They're going back to tampa bay to host the super bowl for the first time in the history of the nfl where the home team is hosting. Kudos tom brady got to give credit. Where credit's due tenth time. That dude is going to be in the super bowl. Yeah you heard me right. The ten th time. That guy is going to be starting in the super bowl. The guy has spent forty eight percent of his career. Winning super bowls. Getting two super bowls. It's crazy man just absolutely crazy. Dudes amazing fantastic job congrats. Tampa bay congrats kansas city. They got down as well and it's weird because kansas city got out of the gates like kansas city does slowly. They're down nine nothing before they know what hit him but they're just calm cool. Collected doesn't matter to them makes no freaking difference. We can spot you ten nine. We can spot you look back. We can do that man. Oh man they're good. It's gonna be fun. super bowls. Fun really is. But i wanna break down. What happened in these games on this very day. And we'll get you all wired up ready for the super bowl. Look the tampa. Bay buccaneers went out and played one hell of a football game. Great game plan. Todd bowles was going after. Defensively all over aaron rodgers man in in fashion. No risk it. No biscuit like goes after there at the end of the first half and to be honest with the opposite. And they're watching the game with my dad and i'm like dad. This makes sense makes a lot of sense to me man because what are they got to lose. The packers aren't going to be able to do anything. A few seconds left good move. I like it really pay evidence. Wind up getting a touchdown and when you look at the game. Thirty one twenty six. That touchdown doesn't happen. Maybe just maybe we're talking about an rogers and him painting his legacy. Which by the way. Wanna talk about that a lot. Because i do think that that's been hurt. big time. he had an opportunity. He didn't have paternity to get to soap rule number two. I wasn't saying he's going to win it but had the opportunity to get the super bowl number two. I'm talking about aaron rodgers. When when i say that stuff you it probably boggles your mind. The same way boggles mine. We'll talk about one of the gas ever. Play this game quarterback position but yet he's been to one super bowl and if he does ever get back to the super bowl which i i don't know if that's gonna happen. Not sure at this point really really. Don't know but if he does if he does make it back to that game. It'll be the longest time ever between quarterbacks getting to a super bowl ten years now last titletown titletown right now. Man titletown hasn't been titletown since two thousand and ten. We're going on twenty twenty one years man eleven years so a lot of frustration in green bay and know what rightfully so should be. Aaron rodgers should absolutely be pissed that he didn't have the opportunity at the end of that game too tired up or at least give his team a chance to tie it up. There's like two minutes left in the game. I know you have all three timeouts. They know the two minute warning is right there but holy hell good. God almighty what the heck are you thinking right there. How do you take the ball out of the best players hands for the love of the game man like dead serious for the love of the game. You give that man an opportunity for no. It didn't happen that way. Man didn't happen. The script wasn't written that way and by the way. Tom brady as good as he was. He was really bad too. I think he's one of two other people. Terry bradshaw may be mark. Maloney other guy to throw three touchdowns and three interceptions and still winning. Nfc championship game or a conference championship. Game i mean sometimes you just gotta tip your hat and say you know what this guy's great and he gives his team a chance to win even when at times. It looks like he might be thrown the game away like he was the difference. They scored a couple of times when they probably shouldn't have an score touchdowns like at the end of the first half when seldom use. Scotty miller comes out to burnham in green bay. Packers have times where they should be scoring points. And i'm talking touchdowns because they're supposed to be the best team in the red zone because that's what they've done all season long but in the biggest game and the biggest moment in time they were nowhere to be found and that offense wasn't as prolific as. It's been all your aaron jones monroe game broth game for aaron jones. Crazy man so loud to just stuff happening for the green bay packers in the sense of bad timing for turnovers mistakes. Aaron jones. Like i said that fumble tampa bay bloom they score a touchdown so when the packers made mistakes the tampa bay buccaneers score touchdowns when tampa. Tom threw three picks in the second. Half the green bay packers squandered opportunities and came up. Maybe with six points. Total from it. Look man coach. I'll play pressure that tampa put on air and all day that was tough to hear and after the game. Aaron rodgers thoughts in his mind. I get where the guys had. I'm sorry man. But i totally get where they do that. And i'm a diehard green bay packer fan. He has every right to be angry. Upset disturbed depressed and say what the hell do i gotta do. The guy won't even give me the opportunity on the best player in the league. I had the best season out of anybody. But yet you're going to rely on a defense and you're gonna rely on the fact that you think maybe we'll get the ball back. I don't know what the hell was going on right there. I really don't. I hear them music. No i gotta take a break. But when i come back i'll talk a little bit about patrick mahomes and west for another super bowl back to back that dude's just absolutely freakin amazing. So it's kind of cool. Tom brady patrick. Mahomes future the present the past all happening right before a very is i gotta take a break. I'll be back mandy door if you're hanging out with me here on the nfl rewind championship conference championship style. Nfl rewind and sports overnight america. I'll be back. This is sports overnight. America anti most of us like to be out in the sun. That's why sunscreen and other safety measures are key to protecting your skin from aging and cancer. 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Probably a lot of green bay packer fans probably a lot of bills fans spans with probably even those buccaneers fans and those chiefs fans man. I mean everybody was happy about what was going on for those guys on the other side. You're drinking your salaries away to be quite honest with you. Welcome back everybody and hanging out with the year sports overnight america. Nfl we want style last week of by the way a conference championship. Nfl rewind style here on sports overnight america next week it is super bowl. Fifty five preview on sports overnight america. don't that obviously. I've all the coverage everything you name it. Dorfman have you covered in every way shape and form and again check me out on twitter. Store sports there check mel facebook door font sports. Their check me out on instagram. The real door font sports there. And hey gotta thank all the different outlets that. Do pick me up. Especially k s are an casual sports radio network people right here in the valley of the sun. Picking up the doorman late night. So do appreciate that very much Look man getting back to the action. Getting back to what. I said i would. Which was patrick mahomes. And the way that this dude went out there and just performed calm cool collected. And it's easy man. It's super easy. When you got tyreek hill and travis freakin kelsey man. These dudes are ridiculous. They're the best in the game at what they do. That's the truth patrick. Mahomes is the best in the game at what he does. It's the truth like these things that are happening there. They're not by chance that's my point. Tom brady has been consistent over twenty years. Patrick mahomes has been extremely consistent over four years. I just love what what we're getting here. The past the present and the future. Just keep letting that marinate keep letting that get in your brain and just say to yourself. Wow i'm watching greatness and i'm seeing it from a guy who's forty three and i'm seeing it from a dude who's twenty five like this stuff is just. This is awesome. This is what sports are all about. It just goes with kinda my theme of the whole year. It's coming to fruition here man. Like i'm not. I'm not a miracle not a mind reader. I'm not a miracle maker. But i'll tell you what i am. I'm a guy can kind of see into the future. A little bit and remember what i told you kind of all year long. I said we're going to see a changing of the guard. Potentially here we're going to see a passing of the torch. I mean i don't know if there's any better scenario than this one tampa. Tom brady man dude left. New england and villa check people. Were not thinking this going to work out the way it did look like it's going to work out the way it worked out during the year but they got their act together and quite frankly the chiefs very similar man like the past are extremely similar but for different reasons. Obviously tom brady and tampa. Bay buccaneers had to get familiar with each other. Patrick mahomes and the kansas city chiefs just had to keep interested enough. And it's like it's crazy and i'm saying that about a team that was fourteen into but i really felt like a slip walk through a lot of games and that's the way it started with the buffalo bills so this is typical of how the kansas city chiefs go out there and perform to let it all hang out when they're down and they don't. They don't crack under pressure like to me that that was the biggest difference between the kansas city chiefs. Who who were supposed to win the game and they did win the game and the green bay packers who were so to win the game. And they didn't win the game. They're big guys. Made plays like travis. Cousy was a beast. Tyreek hill was abused as well. Those dues got him like two hundred yards alone. You're not gonna lose when you get those kinds of numbers. It's just not going to happen. Those guys are so special. They're so good at what they do like. I've said that's a really really good football team. And i was kind of down on the defense a little bit but that defense stepped up. They they played all right. Not gonna lie not at all and josh l. Confused and bewildered at times. And i said that too. If you listen to me. I said hey. This has been a a wonderful season and it's been great. Buffalo bills fans can be proud. But you're going up against patrick mahomes in the kansas city chiefs. And here's here's what you gotta take away from this if you're buffalo bills fan look the progresses there people. There's no denying that the progresses there. Your team has gotten better with josh allen. Over the last couple of years. I think he lost to houston last season in the postseason. Getting in as wildcard. Maybe this time around you. The second seed in the nfc championship game. But that's progress. That's that's moving in the right direction. Which by the way is in always measured this way and this is going to arizona cardinals fan just thinking about it. 'cause i'm sure a lot of people are happy for a and maybe some people kind of angry upset as well. 'cause he laughed but some interesting stuff very interesting stuff. Tampa bay sold out. They went all out man. Got tom brady everything he needed more and took time for that stuff to happen. Chiefs just had to keep their minds right man and when you're explosive you can get down in the way that they get down because they got the firepower just punch back and their guys are just too good they just don't make mistakes like travis kelsey. He's got your hands and he's gonna make the catch and he's gonna get you the touchdown juke somebody. He's gonna take you out of your shoes. They make mistakes and that that was what i love to because they made mistakes right early in the game hartman made a mistake big time big time mistake but once again had the ability to go out there and say you know what i'm okay i can get this done so he had a couple of really really day. Plays didn't get down get frustrated believed in their abilities. Andy re to man this guy love this guy or can we say about andy reid. What can we say about andy. Reid and patrick mahomes. I can't wait to just think about all the storylines over the next couple weeks to where you're going to have the first time. I believe the past two quarterbacks that have won super bowls right so the against so many cool things about the matchup so many cool things about the fact that my theme is playing out and making me look like an absolute genius to past present and future is what we're seeing whether it was gonna be aaron rodgers josh allen. Tom brady fashionable homes. We're going to have that in some way shape or form but i think we got alternately. I think we got what a lot of people wanna see. I really do you look at you. Look at patrick. Mahomes numbers by the way to twenty nine of thirty three twenty five three touchdowns running game solid again hundred yards. It wasn't like they. They just kind of did a little bunches and the big play was hardman. Really that reverse play was just sneaky clever and they hit him with a with a such a big moment and such a big time. So yeah man. The kansas city chiefs just seem to be clicking and hitting on all cylinders and. They're just extremely good. 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Maybe about what will happen in the super bowl super bowl fifty five tampa bay buccaneers team to host a super bowl. And go figure. Tom freaking brady is the guy that got it done. Dudes been to ten super bowls. Absolutely amazing looks at patrick. Moms is on his way to do something like that too. By the way three times dude been there s he championship game looking to go back to win. Back to back super bowls. Wow talking about like consistency talking about two guys. That are just absolutely lights out incredible. Tom brady patrick mahomes. Lucky dudes lucky dudes but honestly man. They're they're skilled. And they deserve all the accolades. They deserve all the credit because they worked hard to keep going this these places man so people that want to. Hey i'm sorry man should aid yourself because these dudes are unbelievable and when you look the definition of winter. There's a picture of tom brady. And there's a picture of patrick. Mahomes dudes like thirty five seven over forty two career. Nfl starts come on man. We're talking like video game numbers and he's doing it in real life. So yeah i. I love these guys i talk about all four of these teams in this segment. Kind of talk about the journey and how it all wound up happening. Why not start with the buccaneers man tampa tom. They did this so that they could host hoist the trophy and host the super bowl again the way that they got here to me. It's absolutely amazing. It really is incredible. Didn't look like this was going to happen it really. Didn't tom brady. Va or kind of going at the beginning or were they. Maybe it was a facade. Maybe it was just to make everybody think that that's what was going on when it really wasn't because at the end of the day really looks like it worked out. They sold out man they went. They went after. It doesn't always work out like this more often than not. It doesn't work out like this. Let's be honest but but there's certain guys if you have them a chance to win. Look tom brady. Patrick mahomes these guys. You throw them on any team. I'm sorry but i think they make that team a contender. I really do believe that. Tom brady was in the. Afc he had bill belichick. Now he goes the got. Bruce arians the tampa bay buccaneers. Who haven't done this and forever some of the stuff. You just can't make it up so you tip your hat and you say wow. I'm watching this. And that's tom brady. Is he brought his greatness tampa bay. He made them better congrats once again. Green bay packers. I think what we're always going to be talking about and look. I'm a huge pakistan. Y'all know that born and raised in that great state but i am objective as hell look. The green bay. Packers are going to be talking about missed opportunities once again with another great quarterback we did this with brett farve. We're doing it now with aaron rodgers. There's no other way to do. There's no other way to say it. Man i can't make it rosy i can't make this koumba because it's not like one guy is having a legacy in it's ridiculously great. There's another guy who's on his way to that in patrick mahomes. This could've been rogers. That's what i'm saying. Aaron rodgers may not get the two super bowls and yet he's one of the best ever play. It's crazy like someone who said this to me. Troy aikman super bowls when nobody thinks troy. Aikman's better there rogers. There's some sense to that. But at the end of the day menu measured by. What you do you measured by your merits and the ps are nice. They're great but super bowls something about them their special so another missed opportunity for the green bay packers and others and i blame a lot of it on the floor for not having the balls to go for there at the end of the game and i blame air measures and the offense a little bit because they into what they did all year. Twenty six isn't what they did all your average thirty to all these teams averaged right around thirty points by the way two of them to that point two of them get fucking nears thirty one chiefs thirty eight bucknor's average twenty nine point six something. The point of matter is thirty seemed to be the magic number. They both got to packers. And that pro liquor prolific oftens unable to do it so tip your hat. They played a better game. They deserve to win. But the green bay packers and their fans should absolutely be talking about another missed opportunity and another opportunity where aaron rodgers could have been writing. His name in the history. Books could've taken out. Tom brady and and patrick mahomes could've put himself in a comp- a whole new category didn't happen. I look whatever will happen. That's what i'm saying are buffalo bills. I said this before. Look you're going in the right direction. So bills fan. You know what. You're disappointed agent heartbroken but at the end of the you really heartbroken because you got out of the gates and you're team was kicking some ass and you're like oh yeah. I would say we couldn't do it here. we go. we're going into. Casey would take him about no no. It just didn't happen that way. Because this is who the kansas city chiefs are they can withstand blows like that for back to the buffalo bills. Be happy be proud. I do think you're a team to be reckoned with. I do think there josh. Allen is a he is an. Mvp candidate moving forward year in year. Out he does need to improve though he does need to improve. I'm gonna kinda put him in. Jaanus i compare a lot of things. Human the honest onto to colombo like the differences were making josh allen. Earn it a little more. Like people gave to janas right away josh allen the nfl they're making them earn it more. And i think that he is a guy that will absolutely continue to work and get better. All the skills all the intangibles. He's maybe a bigger version of like a john elway and maybe a little bit more mobile than john elway. I think the future is extremely bright for the buffalo bills. That's what i'm trying to say. Sean mcdermott an up and coming coach. He may have gotten now coach a little bit too. I think that's what we saw two speaking of coaching. Va old school. Andy reid obviously old school and mcdermott and my man for the floor. You know what they got out coached a little bit. It happens happens to the best of us as long as you learn from those mistakes to me that. That's let's see what happens next season. Let's see if the relationship between matt lafleur and aaron rodgers takes a little bit of a hit because of what happened at the end of the game that that'll be interesting. I think i think the bills relationship quarterback wise and all that very good nothing to worry about nothing to worry about at all. I think coaching was was a huge. Factor huge factor. Da old school. Todd bowles was calling up. Great defensive plays andy renault. He does lots of lots of trickery. Lots of confusion there at the line. And why the hell not you got patrick. Mahomes speaking of which. I don't i talk a little bit about the chiefs man. Oh man i think the real question for me about the kansas city chiefs is how good are they going to wind up being. How many super bowl rings is patrick. Mahomes gonna wind up. Having how many mvp's super bowl mvp's regular season mvp's is this guy gonna amass before he's all done he calls it quits. I knock him for a while. So so the question again. How many does this guy a mass of all these different things and will he wind up having more than tom brady when everything said and done and if he can get to in his first four years i would say that he could absolutely get it done. So yeah i. I love the kansas city chiefs. I think that obviously we have tyreek hill. Travis kelsey hardman all these weapons allaire. A guy who. We didn't really talk much about either. Clyde lear who who did a rushing touchdown as well again just just so many weapons almost kind of forget about all the different weapons the bevy of weapons that patrick mahomes at has as as his leisure to just go out there and throw the ball to the. I'm excited about what's to come with the super bowl just just to kinda get my mind moving in that direction. A moment in the last moment or two here. I mean come on and tom brady. Patrick mahomes super bowl. Fifty five again it to me it just all coming together in the sense of the way i thought it would. It's a changing of the guard. It's passing of the torch and it's one of the guys who we all know is the go-to at this point right now you you gotta give tom brady that that that that title and to be quite honest look he did something that now allow people can say they did. He was able to throw three touchdowns but he was also able to throw three interceptions anyone's walking away with a victory. So look call it what you want. The guys lucky. The guy's a little special. The guy has some magic to him. We're gonna find out if magic can continue to roll up against the likes of a guy. Like patrick mahomes who ultimately to me man is just so damn good and if you make a mistake against him he's gonna make pay he's gonna get six on the board They're going to convert those mistakes into touchdowns all right. I hear that music. I gotta take a break. One final time come back. Wrap things up. Do what i always do. Parting shot style so keep a close. Everybody i'm super excited super stoked about the conference championship games. A little disappointed at the same time because obviously the final. Nfl rewind style here conference championship style on sports overnight america. So they'll disappointed but i'll be right back a man to keep a close buddy. This is sports overnight america. Hey travelers do you want to save money on your next flight. Then pick up the phone and call. 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More of the rewind right here on sports overnight america all right everybody welcome backing for the final time with me. Here on the nfl rewind conference championship style nfl. Leon sports overnight. America but veneers go back to tampa bay to play in super bowl fifty five as they beat. The green bay packers thirty one twenty six kansas city chiefs having the opportunity to defend the super bowl champions and go back to back as they win. Thirty eight twenty four over the buffalo bills. Look man it's always a long tough grind out season put at the end of the day. I do think we get the best teams playing in the biggest moment in the biggest spotlight. In getting the biggest opportunity to heist up that trophy and be the super bowl champions and be the kings of your spoiling. So this time around tampa. Tom brady and the boys have an opportunity to do something that nobody's ever done. Waste and host the nfl super bowl in their own hometown. Unbelievable so the story about. 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And they'll give you really substantive answers to questions about the sports in about their life as well. So i think you'll enjoy that and then right after that and associate professor of history at the university of memphis arum. Good susan is gonna join us. He is the author of the book king of the court bill russell and the basketball revolution. He is taught african american history and the black athlete in american history and so he has a wonderful perspective on that. And then one of the all time greats at nba play jason kidd played with the mavericks. The sons the nets double digits as far as an all star and he led the team olympic gold medals in two thousand four and two thousand eight. So we're ready to crank it up with you on sports. Byline you love. your dog. Is something bothering him or her. And you can't figure out what it is. 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Cliche but It's something about every single day in my life and At the planning mba played nine years. Believe it or not in the nba. And i still got a few more good years in it it. It's really a dream come true. And i'm fortunate to have worked my tail off to get this position. And i'm gonna continue to do so but i feel very fortunate very lucky you know you've had a lotta dichotomies in your life Shane and i read a quote here. It says everything i've done since then is because of what i went through with this. What i did is alienate myself from everybody. I eat lunch by myself. I study by myself. I sort of lost myself in the game. Now this was in reference to the fact that when you were a seventh grader you were six four. You also have a black father and a white mother and you kind of went into yourself. Can you explain that that what you just said there. Oh growing up. It's every kid's goal just to fit in and see no matter how try tried. I was always different. And i being different is this for for trying to find his way and trying to figure out and for me i i took it. I almost took it personally. I was different. And i almost chip on my shoulder and I realized that that's a destructive way of thinking and it's great to be different. And i talked all the time i. It's not only the great to be better to be different. You want to be like everybody else. Be your own person. And once i sort of figured that out and i became comfortable with that and I use basketball vehicle to get close to people into gawp relationships. I realize you know what i have and it's okay. I'm a little bit different and Ever since that experience. I i wouldn't be here if i didn't go through that tough time trying to figure out who i am. Yeah you know. I think about it and i think that that toughen you up to be able to the success that you are and the other thing is how did you. How did you finally find a comfort between the black world and the white world. Well you know. I realized it didn't matter didn't matter what we'll call. You are where he came from. All the matters is if you're person and you try to do your best. And i'm not perfect but i try to do the best i can. And that's not good enough for people around me then Up so bad but everyone is as long as a good person. You wanna you wanna run herself with with people that appreciate you for you and appreciate The gifts and talents that you didn't you bring to the table. Tell me about your first impression when you met mike chef ski. Well he's he's he's the best. I have not met a person who was running into coach. K. was not come away from that meeting impressed and Especially as a as a high school junior coming into my home. Pitching duke university Left my house on on his home visit. I was hard pressed to go anywhere else. He's an unbelievable teacher. An unbelievable mentor grip. Basketball coach but Just one of the good guys in sports you know i was down there. Doing my show. And mike came out and get it and there were about six hundred people that came out to watch the show that evening. Shane and i asked him a question. I said you know mike. You have a reputation of not screwing up a kid when he gets into your program. Know what is it that you look for in person and also a player and he said something shane. That was very interesting. He said i go into homes and sometimes they only have a single parent. Maybe they have both parents but he said the one thing that i do is that i make sure i ask the parent a question and then i look out of the corner of my eye to see whether the kid. I'm recruiting rolls. His eyes or not when the parent is is answering. That question and i said well why do you do that. He says because that tells me whether they respect authority or not. And i thought it was a very interesting observation when you look upon him in the four years you spent with him. Tell me a little bit about what you came away with. That makes him so unique. Well i have an unbelievable appreciation for his top discipline and every players graduated under him leaves with a little more toughness and disciplined in game in their me included He's coach k.'s. Is unbelievably demanding. He's he demands precision. You demands Respect he man's togetherness You have to be into every day and there's no days off but tell you what i if you can go through duke university basketball. No sounds weird but if you can go through ticket versi basketball graduate and for years The little that you can accomplish in in the real world and i'm thankful for that those lessons that they coach Talk to me one of the things in talking to him. I said are you. You know somebody that sets goals. And i said i mean. Do you sent like. I want to win. Twenty games this season. He said ron if i did that. What happens if we went our first twenty exactly exactly coach k. Always wanted the best every single day matter watching film. You wanted us to have the best attention. If we were going through a walk-through he wanted us have Attention and disciplined the walk through. If we were eating training table after practice. He wanted to eat like can't be and so everything that we did Report discipline and And i think it shows seems well one of the things about you is that i've always thought you had an appreciation for the mental side of the game. You like breaking it down and you even talked about how where the way you practice in the way you prepare prevents you from making mistakes and i thought that was kind of interesting. How did that come about in your approach and philosophy basketball. Well it's sort of donors. I can't jump very high. Can't run very fast. So if i if. I figure if i want to stay in this game but at the table of my athletic skill and I've been lucky to play for great teachers. Who taught me to really in my opponent explicit weaknesses and It's an underrated part of the game. That is not taught a lot. and i. i was so fortunate. Very high school coaches great college. Coaches pro coaches that A lot me to sort of make make that niche For me and my professional career and Agai maybe stronger. Maybe faster and maybe better player. But he's not gonna study me and the an southville you've also been somebody that's been outstanding at playing defense and that's not something that a lot of people in the nba or comfortable with or they preferred to do and the late. Dennis johnson said to me one time. I said you know dennis Is it a physical thing or is it a mental thing. He says it's an attitude. Can you explain a little bit. More about what he was talking about playing defense. Well anyone could play defense. I cancel all the time. It's about it's about having the discipline as by has an awareness of what your point is trying to do have an awareness but other teams trying to do and never losing sight of what your responsibility and the and the grand scheme of your team's defense and if you can do those things. I'll kill slow. Europe kill smaller. You're going to be valuable member of the team. And you're going to be a good defender. Everybody talks about that game. Back of the two thousand seven two thousand eight season when you were assigned to guard manu ginobili and You know because of the minutes that he was playing there weren't going to really coincide with the minutes that you'd be playing if you started and you went to the coach rick adelman and what did you ask him to do. Well for metro purposes Wanted come up with bench to guard nobly This because of our rotations if it would have been kind of a funky Mismatch and that's that's why nobody's great 'cause he creates. Those mismatch is off the bench and so care about starting to me. Starting is just having your name call at the at the start of the game I'm about winning. I thought that by coming off the bench for that game and gave in the best chance of winning yao-ming course playing with the houston rockets has been injured Recently when you look at somebody that big. What is the hardest thing for them to do. A shane acclimate themselves to playing professional basketball. Or i mean the greatest First of all he's unbelievable worker and that's probably two detriment because he never stops working. He's always at four practice shooting after practice shooting and wonder sutton six hundred and ten pounds. That's a lot of wear and tear on your on your body and Sometimes you work too hard. I think brits honest body older. I think he's done a better job of understanding his body kennywood. He can do what he can't do Hopefully they'll be injury. Free here has been a little bit fun. watching him. acclimate himself to the american culture and also professional sports in his adaro yet his more american than you think. He's got a great sense of humor he. He's an unbelievable team. They wanted to one of the best teammates. I've had what does it. Did you enjoy most about basketball. I enjoy the challenge and do the challenge every sunday night. Something different in my line of work. I get the guard the best players in the world. Kobe bryant lebron james. Dwayne wade and my job is never dull and If you can find something challenges you every night every day. You're going to be happy chain. I want to thank you very much for your time. I deeply appreciate it. I love watching you play down a duke and also giving us the insights about playing with coach k. Take care of my friend. Frank rod all the troops in afghanistan. Thank you for all the hard work that they make us proud over there. Thank you shane batty joining us on sports byline. Ten years in the nba started off with the grizzlies. And then of course the houston rockets. 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I was a high school age in the nineteen eighties Whenever the great celtics teams. Starring larry bird so i constantly heard and read about An interest there were so many references to the great teams in the nineteen sixties and. That's when i first bill russell i entered my consciousness but then it was at the time it was just simply as a great winner and as as a great champion And as i got older. I got much more interested in As i teach history and interested in african american history in american popular culture. It's like really interested in sports. And obviously when you're interested in the history of american sports you get interested in history of race in america because the tamar so intertwined and russell just became to me one of the central figures through which to understand the connections between the civil rights movement. sports how it goes out once called him. The atlantic athlete of the sixties. And i thought that was a particularly after way to describe it. Because here's a man who on one level is an emblem of everything that Of sport as this emblem of racial progress. Know the celtics where. This team of blacks and whites cooperating. With each other having white leaders in black leaders team the genuinely got along that commodity that team teamwork was central to who were into why they won eleven championships in thirteen years. How difficult was it to write this book about bill and i say that because knowing bilas i do. He's not a particularly open. Man is guarded about who he opens up to. That's one of the reasons why he's never signed autographs and also just the fact that He might he really needs to trust somebody to open up to him. So how hard was it to get him to do then. I went into the book knowing. What i knew about bill russell. I knew that i was going in without his cooperation. didn't mean that i was necessarily against his interests. But i i certainly did paid my due diligence and trying to arrange interviews with and You just wasn't interested So this book was not written with the cooperation of bill russell whatsoever but that said there are two two keep points here. One is that even though he is guarded he's also when he does speak about himself particularly insightful And that really comes out especially in his two person memoirs go up for glory which was written in the nineteen sixties and second wind i think is one of the greatest sports books of all times Which was published in nineteen and the other things that i did about fifty interviews with russell's relatives with his friends with his teammates. Both the university of san francisco and boston celtics With people at all a political associates. So i spoke to a lot of people who knew russell and gave me a lot of insight into i. Spent two hours with him here in the studio. He did a two hour interview with me and it was fascinating and a lot of thought that his relationship with the late wilt chamberlain was one of kind of love. Hate situation when actually and you hear him talk about it. It was one of love. Is there a connection between wilt chamberlain and bill russell that was also paramount To the black history at that particular time in sport. I think so. I mean russell and cambridge were constantly paired in the public imagination by the nineteen sixties. You know they were. They became first of all they became the nba's preeminent story preeminent narrative a as the league start to grow in the nineteen sixties that that rivalry where the rubber meets the road. Actually i'm not even sure what that means. Speed radio network live at heart. News feeds dot com this stream supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter. And instagram's here's a look at weather from the hofland newsfeed weather center today. 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My attention who's weaknesses were turned into strength. I want my week. This is turned into strengths. I want your week. This turned into strikes. How does god do that. Well today. we're going to look at a passage in james chapter five. That gives us some insights on the process that god uses to turn our week. This is industry. Makes james five. Says this are you hurting. Then you should pray. Are you happy then. You should sing songs of praise. Are you sick then. You should call the church elders to pray over you and anoint you with oil in the name of the lord and the prayer offered in faith will save the sick person and the lord will raise them up. And if you send you'll be forgiven therefore confess your faults to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed now. That's james chapter. Five versus thirteen to sixteen is such an important passage that we're going to look at it for two weeks and the reason we're going to look at it for two weeks is because it has to do with two different kinds of problems in your life illnesses and weaknesses illnesses and weaknesses. This passage uses several different words in the greek for different kinds of illnesses. When it says are you hurting. That's cock-up fail. Which means are you having trouble. Are you suffering. And then if you're sick it uses the word asked the nayo now for nayo is actually the greek word. Scenario is the greek word for a strength. When you put an a in front of it it means opposite austin l. means weak and so he saying there. When you're sick you call. The elders will could be either this or illness. That word aston as us many times in the bible in the new testament and about half times. It's talking about a physical illness. Like when lazarus got sick and died that was deadly illness. It's called the neo but it also is used in places where it says if you have a week conscience or you have a week memory or you have a you know a week. Faith that's aston. Ao so this week we're going to look at a faith that helps you transform your weaknesses and next week. We're going to look at a faith that can heal your illnesses. Heal your illnesses now. I wanna read that last verse again from the amplify translation. It gives a little fuller meaning to all of the words. It says this confess your faults. One to another. You're since slip-ups your false steps. Your offense is your weakness. All of those are included in that false steps weaknesses offenses and pray for one another so that you may be healed and restored to a spiritual tone of mind and heart. Now how does god do that. What is the process that god uses to transform my weaknesses into strengths. Well he actually uses three different steps. And i want us to look at these today and see what james has to say about him. Now the first thing how god transforms my weaknesses. Industries starts with this. I must identify. I must identify my natural weaknesses. The bible says in romans twelve verse three. Be honest in your estimate yourself. Don't think of yourself better than you are. you know. i can't work on a weakness and less. i call it out. i name it. I get specific. Not just say now. We all have weaknesses. That's not good enough. You're not going to work on anything. In general you could only work on specifics. The bible says be honest in your estimate of yourself. Don't think of yourself better than you are and be specific. Say you know. I'm i'm lazy. Or i tend to be exaggerate or i'm late or i'm a perfectionist or whatever your weakness is our gift specific about identify them. You know acts chapter fourteen verse. Fifteen is what. I call the second rate confession in the bible. The first great confession is when peter says you are the christ the son of the living god and that's the first confession you need to say. Jesus you're the crisis silent living a god but the second great confession is paul's confession acts fourteen fifteen where he says we too are only men. We're just humans like you. They'd had some people be healed in this city and they wanted to turn paul and his friends in the gods. I said wait a minute guys. We're just normal people. We're like you. You have to hold both of these imbalanced in your life. God is god and you're not but it starts with identifying identifying. What are the weaknesses in your area. You can't work on them until you identify them number two second. I have to learn how god wants to use my weaknesses. I need to learn how god wants to use my weaknesses. You say god wants us does yes he does he wants to use. You got can use even bad things in our lives for good. How is god going gonna use my weaknesses for any good well. Let me give you three or four suggestions. You might write these down number one. My weaknesses should prevent arrogance. My weaknesses should prevent arrogance. They should make me much more humble person when i realize i'm not perfect. I don't have it all together. I don't have everything working out. Perfect in my life. Paul says it like this to keep me from becoming conceited. Because of the surpassing great revelations paul had had some great things done in his life by god he said to keep me from becoming prideful conceited. Because of these revelations there was given to me a thorn in my flesh messenger of satan to torment me is saying god allowed a messenger. Satan to torment paul. Yes he did. He did why well he said to keep them from becoming arrogant said three times. I pleaded with the lord to take it away from me but he said to me. My grace is sufficient for you. That's second corinthians. Chapter twelve not seven to nine and so the first value of having a weaknesses it makes me more human. It makes me more humble. It oughta make me less prideful less arrogant number two. My weakness issued cause me to value others. My weaknesses should cause me to value other people more you know. Second first corinthians chapter twelve verse twenty two says this some parts of the body seem weakest. Weakest and least important are really the most necessary one of the things. I tell my kids and have told my staff for many years is never confused. Prominence significance prominent and not be significant. You can be famous and not significant. You can be important and not be famous. My nose is prominent. It's a big knows. It just sticks out there. It's prominent but it's not significant. I could lose my knows. It could get cut off and i could live happily ever after life without my nose. Prominent but not significant inside of me. some things. like a spleen and pancreas and liver kidneys. I've never seen him. I will probably never see them in my lifetime. They're not prominent but they're significant. And when i recognize that i don't have all the answers. I don't have all the gifts. I don't have all the talents. it makes me realize it other important. People are in my life that i need for for their gifts for their bags. I'm not completing myself. It should cause me to value others. It makes others more important in my life. Third reason my weaknesses should make me more depended on god. My weaknesses should make me more dependent on god. Because when i realized i can't do something on my own. Then i'm more dependent on god. That's why god says to paul. Second corinthians twelve verse nine. I am with you. That's all you need. My power shows up best in week people. Did you know that. God says my power shows up best in week people. If you had no weaknesses you wouldn't think you needed guide. You wouldn't think you need other people you wouldn't you'd be self sufficient and yourself paul says as a result for when i am weak then i'm really strong. He says the less. I have the more i depend on him. Second corinthians twelve ten now living bible. Do you do that. The more you realize your weakness do the more you depend on god. That's one of the benefits of recognising. Your this is. Paul finally says this. I have cheerfully made up. My mind is the second corinthians. Twelve nine the phillips translation. I've cheerfully made up my mind to be proud of my weaknesses proud of them because they mean a much deeper experience of the power of christ. You know i'd have to say that In my life. I've had many different relationships to my weaknesses when i was a young man. I didn't even know. I had any weaknesses. Honestly i didn't even know i had any and then i got married when you get married. That kinda helps you some of your weaknesses. You didn't know you had an also realize. I had a boatload of week this in my life that i was unaware of but you know what i still try to hide them and then i tried to deny i am when i couldn't hide them. I did not. I am but then finally came around and i stopped making excuses for him and actually started accepting my weaknesses and then finally i got to wear paul was and he says i glory in my week. This is because it says look. I'm a trophy of grace. God uses me in spite of my weaknesses. God uses you inspired a ring. This god only use perfect people. Nothing would get done and so really you can. Glory paul says i. I celebrate my weight. This is look at who got his using people. Look and say well. Rick maybe he can use me because you know he's pretty messed up and you're using him. That's what god says he says. I want you to learn to see that. Your weaknesses can actually cause you to be more dependent on christ and bring more glory to him. Finally number four my weaknesses should give me a ministry. Did you realize god wants to do. Not just use your strength in ministry. He wants you to use your weaknesses in your ministry. Second corinthians one four says this god comforts us in our troubles so that we can comfort others in any trouble. They have with the same comfort that we ourselves have received from god so god allows you to go through a problem and he helps you so then you can turn around and help somebody else going through the same problem. If you didn't go through that problem you couldn't help anybody else. If you didn't have that weakness that you couldn't help anybody else who could better help somebody who struggles with an addiction and somebody who's had an addiction who can help somebody struggle with With the loss of a child or a death or a divorce then. Somebody's lost a child or a death or a divorce. Who could better help somebody who had a miscarriage than someone who's had a miscarriage and who could better help someone who's been abused than someone who was abused. I want you to know. I'm sorry for the pain in your life. I hurt for the pain in your life. And i heard with you and i. I wish you didn't have to go through it but the past is past and all of what you've gone through. I'm just saying don't waste it. Don't waste you've already gone through the pain of it. Never waste to hurt. Use it to help other people and this is what god says he says. I want to even use your weaknesses. Not just your strings. But your weaknesses in serving other people because people can relate to that if i got up here and told you all things that i'm good at and all of my streak. She said well good for you. So what it would just build a barrier between us it wouldn't build fellowship or harmony or are camaraderie. What it builds his envy and jealousy and and well. Who do you think you are. If i get up here and i started telling you about marriage problems i had. We said well then maybe god could work by marriage if i tell you about health. Profitable named gabi got could work in my health. I tell you about mental issues. I've had with my so. We'll maybe god could help me with my confusion. Even your sins. God can use those. You know one time. Jesus told said peter. You're going to deny me three times before the rooster crows tomorrow morning. Peter because i'm not gonna deny jesus said now you will but when you do look at this i on your outline luke. Twenty to thirty two. Jesus said to peter when you have returned to me strengthen your brothers notice jesus not only knew peter was going to stumble and fall and betray him but jesus knew that he was gonna come back and he's giving him instructions on how to use his pain and his mistakes and his weaknesses and even this sense to help other people he says when you have returned to me hadn't even happened yet. Peter had even send yet. But he's in when you've returned to me strengthen your brothers. That's the kind of god we serve who weaves even the bad stuff in our lives for good in our lives. This is passed to rick's daily. Hope the audio broadcast ministry of pastor. Rick warren now if you missed any part of this broadcast including portions we didn't have time for today simply go to pass to rick dot com to listen again to find out more about this ministry and to sign up for rick's free daily email devotional rick's going to be back in just a moment with a final word of encouragement. So please stay with us now. If you'd like to step out of an ordinary existence and into a life of extraordinary faith the you're gonna want to order the daring faith dvd. Instead he kit by pastor. rick warren. Here's rick to tell you more. 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Yeah we are speaking of which yes we are live here Streaming live to the super super secret lions of liberty private facebook group for our patrons But kitty cats. Stop me if you've heard this before. I've got another debate for each day. Another debate with friend of the show host of part of the problem. Dave smith is back for another round in the lions of liberty fight. Dave are you ready to roar roar roar mother fucker here. We go again. I had a feeling it and now this time we've got a kind of a different type of opponent. This is not actually one of your online critics at all. This is someone who is actually a fan. Someone who's been a fan of your show. And a member of the part of the problem. Inner circle presenting. He is a former maine state. Senator eric breaky eric. Are you ready to roar roar. let's go for it. Excellent gentlemen today. We are not debating as we have on several other shows. Dave is racist or a member of the outright or actually. I don't know. I have no idea because sort of accusations. Eric might bring up throughout. You promised me that our next debate will be whether i'm a nazi again of call take one off but then we're going right back into it we're going to see. I mean we discussed for the show like those do seem to be pretty pretty darn good good for ratings and so we'll see if more substantive topic gets you know gets more traction less traction and the market will decide if if debating. Whether you're an ozzie. He gets more down though. That's that's where we're gonna be doing at the end of the day but for today we're going to be debating not really specific criticism. Like i said. Eric your fan of dave's work we're going to be debating really more strategy and you guys are both i. Guess what you consider. Like ron paul republicans. Everyone wants to to find that. But you're both inspired by ron policy. Become libertarians to get involved and active within the liberty movement. You both done that in different ways over the years but now you're both. We're both looking at a time right here. Which many people are seeing as sort of a turning point for especially after the last year of seeing lockdowns and that's the type of stuff that only alex jones could have really dreamed coming to. The world has been happening right in front of our eyes. And i think a lot of see this as a moment a moment where libertarians have to take charge and take the lead or i don't know just give up and go go hide somewhere in act artika but both of you are still very active in the liberty movement and both of you are sort of heavenly. Guess as of late Eric for good number of years. Now have been pushing forward specific strategies to do so within the political arena. So i'm just going to lay out this proposition. This actually was brought up by by. Eric brady The idea for this debate. So i will let senator break go i but i i just want to lay out the proposition itself. So what we will debating. Today is the question. Is the best path forward. For the ron paul liberty movement to focus on one growing influence in the libertarian party. That's the position. Dave will be taking or to take control of the gop of the republican party away from the neoconservatives that is the position that senator break he will be speaking four. So that being said eric. This was your idea this debate. This was your idea this subject to talk about today. So i'm gonna let you go first. You've got five minutes or so. Because i'm not that strict on these awesome mark. Well mark. thank you so much for hosting this. It's great to be back on the lines liberty podcast. Thank you dave for doing this debate as mentioned i'm a i've been listening to dave's podcast and lines liberty for years. This'll probably be the friendliest debate dave's having awhile and anyway i look forward to. We largely agree on ideological grounds. This is a debate. A strategy mark said. I should probably introduce myself. I'm i'm probably not as well known by the audience. Years davis Might short version of my story. I got started back in two thousand ten. Just as as a ron. Paul liberty activist. I became a staffer. On ron paul's campaign Became the state director of maine in two thousand and twelve Where we won the state. We took over the state republican party. I ran for state senate. Two years later defeated a thirty six year democrat. Incumbent in the state senate passed constitutional. Carry right to try. Welfare reform expanded medical cannabis. And i was the republican nominee for united states. Senate in the state of maine In two thousand eighteen And i've been fighting for liberty ever since so that's the short version of who i am but here we are. We're debating strategy now. What prompted me calling for this debate. Is dave again big. Fan of and i've been listening to for years has been lately calling. And urging ron the ron paul liberty movement to spend our energies taking over the libertarian party. Through the meese caucus. But i'm here to argue and explain why i really the the most effective strategy is suspend those energies instead defy defeating the neoconservatives inside the gop and using the republican party as the vehicle to save our country now to understand who is right in this debate. I think that we have to start by asking a few basic fundamental questions and the first and most obvious one is what in the world is a political party in the first place. Now we can look at the dictionary. Dictionary says the definition.

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What is Architecture?

The Children's Hour

58:07 min | 1 year ago

What is Architecture?

"It helps us out a lot when you become a Patriot supporter. Find the children's hour podcasts. At Patriotair Dot com slash the children's hour? And thank you. Why was the broom late to the party around? He overslept children's our kids. Great real fish birds off the don't you all week starts here. Footman vision the visit. We're on the road gesture here with threes stroll. Snowing awesome basically took me blocks. Umbro's right here on the children's hour and hello you're listening to the children's hour where kids public radio and we are broadcasting live today from the special collections library. Got a sweet. Little audience got a great crew high crew. Hi everybody let's figure out WHO's here. We'll start over here with high heights. Evan Cockatoos to a low heights EVA. High Spaniel Hi Lucas. Happy Day. It's my and we have another person. Here Hello Nice to have you on our crew today. Well everyone. This is pretty exciting. Show we're going to be talking with a woman here in New Mexico whose legendary for her architectural work and design and her professorial skills at the University of New Mexico. Her name is Cheri and she's got a lot of fans who are in the room and who have come here to see her speak. We're GONNA learn about something called architecture. If I were to ask anyone of my crew to define architecture. Come right up to Mike. How would you define architecture? Architecture is basically planning planning out the structure of buildings the structure about anybody else thoughts on architecture. I I sometimes think of architecture as different styles of buildings like it is the both the process of planning like you said. Eli and also I think it refers to the style of buildings and if you look around in this building right now describe it for me my are Zen. Somebody describe it for me. What are you seeing in this building? Well we're in a little room which has windows over in front of US building. Bill and the The windows really pretty and then over to the side of the windows. There's a really read bookshelf. Which has many shelves and it's a very large bookshelf and it spans the whole entire wall and it has many old books which is very cool it is it is a library is a library. Come on and then. There's like a little oven place which is not oven because it's a fireplace so you're really describing what you're seeing from the inside of this building and that is really describing. How a space feels on the inside and I wonder if anyone is they were coming into this building noticed anything yeah Daniel. I noticed that the building looked like adobe but I know it's not actually adobe. It's something else bus made to actually look like it. There's some wooden pillars are coming out of the side of the building and out in front. There's like a little area where There's like this thing where it covers the signs. You can sit down out there. And it's like a courtyard sort of out in the front courtyard and there's a lot of wooden logs that go across the roof and then on top of that. They're wooden slabs. Help block sunlight if you were to look at this building. Would you say that? This building looks New Mexico yes it does look Mexican. Why why what makes this building look New Mexico? Do you think anybody can come pitch on this one? What yeah go ahead. Eli My guess is it. Looks like adobe? Yeah Adobe building which for those of you not new. Mexico adobe is a type of building block it's a mud brick and a lot of our homes. Here and buildings are made with mud bricks. It's a traditional way to build here. We're GONNA find out a lot more about architecture with Idi Cherry and we're going to find out more about this incredible building in the history of this building also on the show and we're just so happy you're all here. Thank you for being here. I live tickets special moment to shout out our band. We have the squash blossom. Boys live with us. You can give them a big round of applause and can you introduce your band Kyle. My Name's Karl Malone. I play guitar. We got Josh English on Drums Kit. Murray Banjo doesn't overson on Mandolin. Vocals Sarah Farrell and guitar and vocals. And we've got Peter Listening to only on base. Well Google play US another song. Absolutely right. Take away this. The squash blossom boys live on the children's hour broadcasting live from the special collections library. You can join us. Thanks Guys Jeff. Good Jeff jets jets really ever terms of K Ramsey said. Johnson took order blossom. Boys right here on the children's hour. We are broadcasting from the special collections library. Which is Albuquerque's oldest library branch? And you feel that history as you stand in this room with us. Today is the branch manager. Cathy Segal please give a warm welcome to Cathy. Segal Hi Kathy. Can you tell us what is what is the story behind this library? It is beautiful. It's a gorgeous building. We are the oldest branch in Albuquerque. This was the main library until one thousand nine hundred seventy five when the new main library was opened. So it's been here. This particular building has been here since one thousand nine hundred ninety five. There was library on this space before that and this building was donated to the city of well. The space was donated to the city of Albuquerque. As long as there always be a library here. So we're very fortunate. We will always get to be a library and we are special now because we have our special collections which has a history of New Mexico Collection. Where what what it would be in a history of New Mexico collection. What what would be considered special. We have old books. Maybe that are about New Mexico. We have other research materials perhaps newer. That are about New Mexico specifically albuquerque. Also we have property books that tell where different lots were. Where people's houses were and where they were when they were built CETERA. We have a lot of people who like to come here to to search their house history. We have city directories that. Tell who lived in Albuquerque? Think our oldest one is about eight thousand nine hundred ninety eight so you can look through it and see who lived. And where they lived in Albuquerque. Albuquerque was founded cash in the seventeen hundreds. I want to say you're nodding legs. You know. Seventeen O six. Thank you my right at the historians and the audience and so that's a lot of history that goes into one city. Yes ma'am and do you have anything. That dates back to our earliest days in Albuquerque. Not that old no. We don't find it some other libraries in the state but we have materials that are back to the late. Eighteen hundreds probably. I'm looking around this room and I'm looking out the door of this room into this room that's adjacent to us and there's all these what are those. Are Those printing presses. Those are printing presses when this library. The main library opened up. This space that we're in the space next door was designed to be the center for the book so we have examples of printing presses. There we invite school groups to come on field trips and use the impresses they get demonstrated press print. Something on them. We have in this room a history of the written word basically so we have a lovely mural behind us on the wall that shows the history of the written word and are books that are on. The shelves in here are old old. The oldest one here is from fifteen forty eight well so they are not part of our history of New Mexico Collection. They are just examples of early printing of books. Gather really old and when we came to look at this library to see if we could broadcast here and I said well there's going to be a bunch of kids and you have all these ancient books and you said that's Okay. We bring school groups in here. The kids can take the books off the shelf and look at them. They are not unique copies of these books so they can be handled. We don't make you wear white gloves or anything well Kathy. You've done amazing job with this library. Thank you so much for being with us on the children's hour and explaining what before we get any further? We're talking about architecture today. This building. It looks like a famous architect named John Gombeen. No but it's not. It does look like that. But it's not as not tell us who who designed this building a little bit of discussion about that. It's credited to a man named Arthur Rossiter and inside. The design is stuffed ballots men who is a famous artist from New Mexico or in New Mexico so but also the city engineer's office drew up the plans for this building back in nineteen twenty five. Well it is really beautiful. Thank you for letting us be here at your library. I should mention that. The Friends of the Albuquerque Bernallio County Library system our sponsors of K. UNM. But you have been so generous to let us to bring our whole crew here and a giant band and all these people in the audience. So thank you very much you with us. On the children's hour squash blossom off. Saw ranks on answering. It makes me feel. Save those download here in two thousand Sir in traffic dream along with me. Bill Avenue Dog August squash blossom. Boys live on the children's hour children's hour is produced by the children's Hour Incorporated a New Mexico nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality. Public radio support is provided by listeners. Just like you find out more. At Children's our dot Org support provided by electrically house in all ages playhouse filled with food and family entertainment. Electric playhouse encourages healthy active. Play using technology to bring people together. The first play house is now open in Albuquerque New Mexico more at electric playhouse dot com children. Who Radio Right Children's hour is produced by the children's Hour Incorporated a New Mexico nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality kids. Public radio support is provided by listeners. Just like you find out more. At Children's our DOT ORG support provided by electric playhouse in all ages playhouse filled with food and family entertainment. Electric playhouse encourages healthy active. Play using technology to bring people together. The first play house is now open in Albuquerque New Mexico more electric playhouse DOT com. You're tuned to the children's hour. We are broadcasting live from the special collections. Library here in Albuquerque New Mexico. It is one of the most beautiful buildings in Albuquerque. In my personal opinion. It is a city building. It's it's a dedicated library for ancient things and we just think it's a perfect example of New Mexico and southwestern architecture and that said I cannot wait to introduce our next guest. Our next guest was educated at Rice University and she worked for years teaching at the University of New Mexico teaching architecture. I think there's some students of hers here in the audience. Give a shout if you're a student of Cherry. Her name is Heat Cherry. She is now part of the firm. Cherry C. Architect and you. She wrote a book called programming. For Design. She's done a lot of things she taught at the University of New Mexico until two thousand and then she joined her firm until twenty fourteen and she's semi retired now but she came out of retirement to talk to us on the children's hour eighty cherry. I am so happy. You're on the show with us today. Thank you thank you Katie. It's a lot of fun. We're going to start right away with the very very first question which is sort of the most obvious question. Yeah I'm at SS at his Mike. What is architecture okay? That's actually a tough question but I think you've already started to answer it. Because he last said well it's about structures and Katie said. Well it's about styles and actually architectures about both those things. It's one of the few feels that that relies on science for the structural part and relies on art for the style part so children and adults that are interested in science and art would find a nice home in in architecture with architecture. It you can put into three basic words art tech and structure. Yeah I think so. The tech part certainly buildings are a lot more technologically complicated today than they were when architecture started in four thousand B C or actually I believe architecture started whenever the first cave person made their cave a little bit better than it was. I think that's when architecture started. What type of buildings can you make? Well an architect. I mean architects. All over the world. Make all kinds of buildings any building you see is is designed by some kind of architect. Maybe they have a license. Different Cultures have different ways of acknowledging architecture. But I think anybody that bills anything and decides it looks like this instead of that is sort of an architect. Did people always have to have a professional architect to build buildings or I live in a house that I don't think had an architect that built says that sometimes just not happen and people just kind of wing it. Well yeah certainly humans winged it for for Millennia. So it can work that way. That depends the answer to your question. Depends on the state where you live and the laws about it. There's actually a law in New Mexico that in order to build certain kinds of buildings especially those that involve the public use have to have a licensed architect and that's for the safety of the public but but homes and I think up to two or three sweet duplexes. Don't have to have a licensed architect. How do you know of a place is safe to build a molding well? Architects rely on a lot of different things their own experience. They're training and they often collaborate with engineers. We always collaborated in our firm with the structural engineers because they have to know a lot more details about engineering. My students used to say. Well why do I have to structures classes? I'm just going to hire an engineer and I said you gotTa know enough about structure to know if you've got a problem and then you need to know your engineers phone number. Yeah well we do hear about buildings at things like sync Kohl's and stuff where people build a building and then all of a sudden the ground underneath it does bad things. That's a bad such. Is that an architect job to make sure that that doesn't happen. Well it depends on the architect's contract of course but usually for buildings that most architects designed they do. They hire a geotechnical person. That's part of the tech piece and they come in. They drill a hole or more than one hole. And I take. What's in that whole and take it to a lab and test it to see what it will hold up but of course that's a fairly recent compared to a span of architecture that's a fairly recent requirement so there are buildings in New Mexico that had been built on places before before. Geotech testing was Required Evan has a question. Yeah Evan have you ever built a house underground underground well? Our own house has a basement. Florida are underground. There are some houses that have been built underground or partially underground I know there's one in Near Santa Fe that's partially underground and then it has a south facing window and it's almost completely independent of any kind of Hiti artificial heating because it's underground cherry. One of the things that you are known for is in the nineteen seventies early in the nineteen seventies when you were working at the University of New Mexico is really urging architects. The people who designed buildings to think about sustainability or making a building green. So you don't need a lot of extra heat that it holds its own heat or can you talk a little bit about that? Your your theory and Philosophy. And what does that mean? Green building buildings. Well of course green buildings make your things to different people. Even something called greenwashing where people say the green and they're really just pretending but I think back in the seventies there was a big oil crisis and gasoline prices went way up and that kicked off a big effort to make all kinds of buildings more sustainable and my husband and I he was my business partner to we built a house back then ourselves which had a lot of mistakes because I ask but we we tried to do a passive solar house. And we still have it but it's evolved through the years as technology changed what's passive solar. That's where you build a house with a lot of south facing glass. He may not have ever noticed. A lot of people don't that the sun changes position. As a year passes for the earth changes position. The Sun stays the same place but So we get in the wintertime. We get a lot of south sun so if you put glass on the South side and you protect it for the sun behaves in March and September. You can hit your house with solar heat. That's pretty neat. Yeah then you have question. Are there any boundaries to architecture like making a box? Is that counting as architecture? That's a very good question and it's almost based in culture I think Because you're talking about design. We Can Design Nice beautiful simple box and get famous for it. If you're Donald Judd and you build it down in Marfa or someplace are you can build something very elaborate. And I think what's going on there is inside your mind. You're making choices. How's IT GONNA look? How big is it GonNa be? What's it going to be made out of? And those are all designed choices. So I'd say yeah. It's a little bit architecture I think if you build a a dollhouse or Shad it's a little bit architecture because you're making choices. Were speaking with Idi Cherry. She's Professor America from the University of New Mexico School of architecture. She's an architect in her own right. We're GONNA come back to you. Eighty in just a minute. You're tuned to the children's hour snack. 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Be Sure you look at the front of the this part of the building because it has two towers and it has a bell and it looks a lot like a mission and that was that was one of the subsets of the Spanish Pueblo. Revival STYLE. We have a lot of questions for you. Terry okay. How do you build a house? That kids feel comfortable in the kids. Feel comfortable and that's a very good question. It's a matter of scale now. Do you know what scale means. Yes it means that it's something the size of the occupants so for example. Let's take these windows over here. These windows are really designed for adults because adults can seattle. I'm quite easily when they're standing up so the windows just to describe our listening audience. They don't start until about four feet high and then they go all the way to the super tall ceiling. So that's not a very kid. Friendly is it. I mean it could be and kids can of course be over but I went to a school one time and I thought. Wow the school is really for kids and I realized that the windows were centered around kids. I high and low so the kid was looking at the middle of the window whereas here adults are looking at the middle of this big window so just lowering. The sill of the windows would make it a lot more kid friendly lots more questions from our kids crew and Daniels coming up to the Mike. How do you plan on building like what you do to do it? Okay well I think it starts with talking to the people that are going to use the building and Katie mentioned. Written a textbook. And that's what it was about was talking to people before you design something to see what what they need. What do they want to do? What are their aspirations? What do they want? The building accomplish in their lives. So that's where it starts and we call that architectural programming. Then once that's done you design the building. Okay yeah we got a bunch of questions then what kind of things you have to do to become an architect. What kind of hoops do you have to go through? Basically okay well. Most architects much dates have license requirements. Not all require a college degree in architecture but most do. The University of Mexico has an architecture school architecture program and the State of New Mexico requires a master's degree in architecture which is really a very broad education. You take history. You Take Art classes you take structures classes. It's a very broad education. Have you ever built a minecraft themed house? What kind of house? Yeah exactly. This is the generation. Divide right here on the children's hour. Evan you're going to have to explain what minecraft is for. I don't mind perhaps is. Yeah IT'S A. It's a video game building video game where you can build a whole world. I guess the answer is no. You haven't yeah you get to pretend you're an architect basil fiscal year. Any other questions here. Yes yes eli well. The answer to his been sounds good. Yeah. Could you name a few buildings that you have designed sure some of you may know longfellow school? It's right down the street here. That was one of the first. Projects are office design. We renovated Coronado School. Which is an old building. We did come to school. We designed earn Ferguson Library. Some of you may know or that is so all of these buildings you're describing in Albuquerque. Do THEY SHARE. That you've built. Do you feel you have a certain style and do architects have a certain style? That's really their own. Well it varies I. There's architects that feel like the building needs to be signed for that particular client in that particular side. There's other architects that have a signature style. We would call it. I think in our case our firm falls into that first category that were looking at the specific site the specific function and the people that are gonNA use it. What you think is the more sturdy material Tom Build a building. Adobe would well a lot depends on how it's put together 'cause you could build out of either one and it could still fall down so a lot depends on the people that are building the contractors who are very good. I hope and I I don't think I divided up as either one of those better than the other. It's just other used. Why do so many homes and buildings in Albuquerque New Mexico have flat roofs well? It came from the earliest a the earliest architecture New Mexico which was Chaco Canyon and the the Pueblos the Pueblo. Buildings all had flat roofs because they used the roofs and it's hard to do activities on a sloping roof but they also knew that they had to protect for the rain and they knew how to build for that. But I think that's what started. It was just the origins of architecture in New Mexico. Is that unusual eighty worldwide having flat roofs. Well ANY PLACE. Any culture that uses the roof. Yeah common if you use your roof. Yeah hang out on your mouth like a lot of Middle Eastern countries in the TOT inside I sleep on the roofs. I always thought that flat roofs versus slope grooves was based on. Whether or not you had snow I came from a snowy place. And you know a sloped roof. The snow will in theory fall off. But is that a very good point and if you go into any kind of chillier climate? You don't see that many flowers and certainly New Mexico we do have snow. But but yeah anything north of here. You're starting to look at more sloped roofs for sure easy. How would you inspire young people to become architects? Well I think that any any young person that's interested in art and science. That likes to make things. If you'd like to make things he probably make it really good architect because you get to figure out. What's it going to look like? How am I gonNA put it together? What's it made out of all those things whether you're doing with model airplanes or buildings? What are the steps to making a house? Well you would I talk to the people that are going to live in it. And once you do that you'd get information about the site where they're gonNA put it. You GotTa know something about that words the street and then you would sit down and start to do some sketches or if you use a computer you'd start to sketch on the computer and then you go through the steps to develop the the floor plans and the way it looks. I want to thank eighty cherry for being with us on the children's hour. Please give her a really big round of applause. Thank you thank you. So much The book squash blossom. Boys is right here on the children's hour we're broadcasting from the special collections library. And I'm so happy to have with this. Appear at our microphone. Debbie Hassi welcome back to the children's hour. I think you've been on before I have. I have and I'm very happy to be back so glad you're here the city of Albuquerque and the county of Bernallio partner together to make our library branches. They do they do. We have branches all over Albuquerque and Bernallio county working in concert to Bring Library Services Public Library services to all the residents in Albuquerque in Burnley. Oh County I love it and there's something that this County Library System Burnt City Library system is doing right now and why I wanted you to come on the show. Debbie which is. Maybe you don't know this but there's a huge effort to get kids into libraries. Can you talk a little bit about indeed I can? This is a very special partnership that the Public Library in Albuquerque and Bernallio counties have with Albuquerque public schools. It's a special initiative that we've undertaken to get every single third grader in Albuquerque public schools. Their very own public library card. Wow that's so neat and so by doing that. You're you're actually issuing the library cards at schools. Yes and that takes away you know I just want to say what a brilliant plan this is because as a parent you know your child should probably have their own library card but sometimes you just can't get over there to make it happen and sometimes it seems like what is that. GonNa take well. There's a lot of misconceptions out there with the public library. That we are still coming across now and then one of the ones I heard recently was a child came to the public library and said I can't go to the Public Library because my family doesn't have a lot of money and that is not true at all. Everyone can use the public library whether they have a lot of money or not a lot of money at all so we welcome everybody and so getting public library cards into the hands of these kids is a great way to start that process. Not just for third graders but for the entire family as well I love. That are some of the things that are at libraries. These days are not even books right. You have seeds it. Yes who knew we have seeds? You have baking pan. We have specialized baking pans. So if you're having a special birthday party that you want to get that special baking pan but you don't WanNa drop twenty bucks to use it. Once you can come to the public library check it out use it. Clean it please. And then bring it back. I love that Debbie Albuquerque from. I don't even know what your title is. You've come on so many times. I'm the Youth Services Manager for the Public Library System. Thank you so much for being with us on the children is our. You're listening to the children's hour broadcasting live from the special collections library. This is the squash blossom Boyd's Oh Man Sleep to the children's are the squash blossom. Boys are here one's girl but that's okay. We still call them squash blossom boys. They're going to play a little something for us. You're live at the special collections. Library here in Albuquerque. 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Looking For Nature

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Looking For Nature

"What do you call a chicken who tells jokes? I know what comedian? Time for the children's hour. Gonna see. Close. Will this morning felt gravity knew that? It was true. It's not a dream. Built Momberg in. Canister. How great. This day. We asked this question and leave it there and being answered and wide open. Space infinitely. Can. Kenniston? Huby? Ask this question. When I decide how did it be true good? Anything is simple, actually, changed my view. But we're not. But we're not. My love got happy. How careless day? Ask this question. Can you? You are tuned to the children's hour that was Laurie Henrik west from a two thousand sixteen Grammy nominated release the title track. How great can this day be? And you know, what I would love to know how great this day could be. I think it could be a pretty great day. What do you think? Yeah. So good great to have a kinds of friends here on the show little bit smaller of a crew today. And welcome everybody. I am Katie stone. Hello at save. Zen. Hello. It's Diaz has you. Everybody's weekend. So far, no news is good news, planting my garden growing. Also, my tooth got even looser. I'm so glad to hear about this tooth. This is the one with the cavity. Right. So we we do want that to to come out any news on that end over here. San day is good fed by snake? Speaking of snakes, we're gonna be talking a lot about nature on the show and going out and seeing what you see when you are outside all kinds of things to do with nature birds plants critters that the stakes are coming out sooner or later now. Yeah, I would think so. And in my neighborhood since we're talking about nature in my neighborhood. Once there was this family Roadrunners, they had babies and one stayed and then another roadrunner came, and then they had babies, and it's just been going like that forever. And but we'd never get to see the. We get to see the young ones when they come out of the cactus. But sometimes we get sometimes we get a little scared for them because we have cats at our neighborhood like a lot a lot of cats like almost everyone owns one, and they like to hang out in that cactus. But normally they don't go in when the babies are there. But once we got scared because we saw them we didn't know what was in the cactus, but it was actually just my cat. And we got really scared Roadrunners. They are the New Mexico state bird. We're gonna talk a little bit more about Roadrunners in a little bit. And this is the children's hour. We have a lot more coming up on the show stick with us. Coming up next this Varez with gotta go gotta go. Now. Let them over a move look cuddle garlic everywhere heavily. It was all of their gotta go gotta go. Now. Let him move at a move. Look, look, look, look giveaway hair have away with all their gotta go. Gotta have got to put it in mom how because. No better way to figure out what it's about you. You wanna samba don't get in my way, gotta go out at a move the move. I look look look look everywhere everywhere was off air go go now going to move at a move. Look, look electoral hair have away was that all they're gotta go to have a gun got date a mumbo because that would figure out what it's about you go along if you wanna Soma don't that in my way. Don't justify it has gotta be. Some marriage, John and Nagada say. Don't you fall? Sound is Shannon. Joe's god. July. Gotta go. Now, let him over over. Look, look, look, look O'Hare hevea was that other kind of gone gotta go now to move. And look look look. Away with. Go. Now gotta have among now. Because there's no better way figure out what it's. You come along. If you wanna Selma. Don't that way? Hey. Between the dark and the day when the night is beginning to the comes oppose in the days, occupations that is known as the children's. I hear in the chamber above knee the patter little feat. The sound of door that is opened voices soft and sweet from my study, see lamb lie descending on halston grave, honest, sand laughing Allegra and eat is with golden. Who is spur and silence yet, I know by their merry. They are plotting and planning ticket. To take me by fry. Sudden rush from the stairway. A sudden raid from the hall by three doors left unguarded, enter my castle. They I've been to mine. Or the back of my chair. If I try to escape. They seem to the way the almost devour me with kisses their arms about me in. Till. Being in his mouth tower on. Think blue. I'm Ben deity because you have scaled. Such a no mustache. Match for you. I have you fast in my fortress and will not let you. But but you down. My. And we'll keep you forever. Yes. Forever. And. Chiloe ball shell crumble to rule. Molder in does stowaway. That was the glouster horn pipe and clog society from a CD called airs from who knows where and the children's hour, which is based on the poem by Henry Wadsworth long, fellow who lived from eighteen o seven to eighteen eighty two before that you heard Jared with gotta go and speaking of gotta go gotta go wherever Laura Ladwig is going. She's our guest right now from the US department of geography and environmental studies and your masters student. They're welcome to the children's hour. Thank you. Hello. Well, first of all, what is the city nature challenge. Sitting challenge is a friendly competition between cities all over the world. And everyone goes out to try to observe the most nature and also get the most people out observing nature. How do we participate? All you have to do is download the I natural app for your iphone or Android or. Use the website at I natural dot org and create an account you can join our project. So you get updates about what's happening. And then you go out and observe nature. You can use the I naturally apt to take pictures, and it will log where you are. And when you took the picture, and and it'll help you dentist by the whatever living species, you just took a picture of does it take place in a specific spot. Are boundaries are all bernallio county so anywhere in Burnley. Oh county you can go out and observe nature. What are the rules? He just need to observe a living thing other than pets and house plants and and upload the picture. And where are you observed it let my e c so you can see any wildlife in Albuquerque bernallio county that we have a lot of wildlife in our county. And so you might see of birds or plants eve. Not so much lime mold but even fungi growing on cottonwoods and any living thing, you can make an observation and contribute. Does it help scientists? And if how we're going to be using this data to create an urban biodiversity map of our area, we want to observe wild species. But we also want to know what invasive and other planted species exists. So that we can see how wildlife or interacting with the other species. So when people are collecting their data, are you going to want to know all of the species that you're seeing around a certain plant, for example, or just you can report the lilac, but you don't have to report the B that's on the lilac. You can report anything you want to if you only want to report lilac, that's fine. But if you see other living, beings pleased Napa picture, and and applied that as well working if find out more if you go to I naturally dot org. And either on the app or at the website. You can join our project, and we have information about all of the events. We're going to have hosted events around the city at city open space county open space fight or national wildlife refuge, the real gardening agent center state park, the the nature conservancy of New Mexico's going to be leading walk along one of the Mafika drains near the Rio Grande high school and just lots of places all over the city, but you can go anywhere and make your relations, but your backyard your favorite park, anywhere. This is all happening on April twenty six to the twenty ninth. So it's at the end of the month that lasts long weekend over the end of the month. It seems like you're hoping people tag stuff regarding this using AB Q city nature challenge on Instagram and Facebook or on Twitter, AB Q city nature are there. Lot of cities participating in this. Yeah. Of over one hundred cities or participating worldwide. And it's just those days in April. It is just those days, but we would love for people to get in the habit of pulling out I naturally and snapping pictures of living things whenever they see them. So that we can see the distribution of of wildlife around our city and county all through the year. Fantastic. Laura Ladwig, she's a student in geography and environmental studies in the masters program here at the university of New Mexico, and she's participating and helping organize the city nature challenge for Albuquerque twenty nineteen you can find out a lot more about it at city nature challenge dot org. This is pretty exciting. Laurel thank you so much recovering on the show and talking about it. And you're very welcome. Thank you stick with us on the children's hour. Ogia is coming up. She's a young naturalist, and she's going to tell us speaking of looking for. Nature. What are we going to find these days now that it's spring in Albuquerque or wherever you live, but especially here in the middle Rio Grande valley this next one is John palm from a CD called mouth bow small voices. It's his version of the classic Papa patch right here on the children's hour. Olery. Steer little Suzy wherever all where is dear little Suzy where there is little Susic way. Ten in the Popol patch. Put them in. You pop. Pop in your pocket can pose put him in park way, down yonder in the Paul all patch. Let's go funder. Come on. Let's go funder. Come on. Let's go. Find her way down yonder in the Paul Paul patch. The. She's cleanable old who is she Queen -able old her why she's clean up old. A why where down yonder in the pop up? Pat cannot up put them in your pocket. Papa's in your pocket. Not pas put them in your pocket way down in the fall. Pat, come on. Let's go find come on girls. Let's go. Find her come on. Let's go way down yonder, Nepal. Ball, pat. She will teach you how to who. She will teach. You had who she's Queen all Missoula, Dan you under in the pulp can up up in your pocket. Papa's put them in your pocket, but cannot put them in your pocket way down in the ball. Paul at come on. That's go find come on. Let's go come on. Let's go. Find a way down yonder in the Paul Paul patch. Birds never cut don't care how they look in pictures. Maybe Spero's the kudos veins says the buck have tip mouse, creeping warblers complain, but not like the screech ou- if they've been alive to see themselves drawn would they have to say about John. And. Other creatures would be flattered casino. Selves in books, postcards, and calendars birds are fickle fancy fellows Canaria taking over shade of yellow if they'd been allowed to critique is word would his name still be synonymous with birds. Now. The great crown purple Finch, take offence or go. He spe- flycatcher vian since. Can't you see Bonaparte goal? Their winged was breast. We've all seen barrios bobbling smothered by less. Never man to hunt. Birds per sport, Audubon, still ate some birds of America finished up their portrait's. Is the thing with feathers by Emily Dickinson? Hope is the thing with feathers the purchase in the soul and sings the tune without the words, a never stops at all and sweetest in. The gale is heard and sore must be the storm. The coulda bashed the little bird the kept so many warm. I've heard it in the chilous land and on the strangest see yet never in extremity. It asked a crumb of me. Hurry of barely is a world music party release folks going way back analyst 'push n from poetry speaks who I am hope is the thing with feathers, the Emily Dickinson poem, and we put a little music bed under that by CK Barlow. She also wrote our theme song for the children's hour. Birds of America don't care. Oh is the deal deal dis from strange dis? Indeed. And the Papa patch was done by John Palm's from a CD called mouth bow small voices. You're listening to the children's hour and April is national poetry month. It is also autism acceptance month and with us today is ISA stank. She is from Albuquerque and his sixteen years old to read her poem a piece of a puzzle. I am a piece of puzzle a puzzle that should be considered different. Not a puzzle that has. Be fixed. Even if some or most pieces are difficult. We don't understand social interactions as we expect ourselves and others to follow rules. We don't like any kind of change. So we sometimes prefer to be alone. Some of us can't or won't talk. We don't make eye contact with others we have emotions, but we don't know how to show them. We think in pictures not words, we often say, we think out loud, we are slow to respond to questions or orders. We are sensitive to certain sounds. We don't like to be touched naive in a little bit. Or by accident? We are born this way people who don't understand or aren't patient can hurt or harm us kids at school teachers who don't have experienced even our own parents. We can now be determined to be a piece that eighteen months old, but we can be discovered during childhood some stone even know their piece until adulthood for one girl. There are for boys. Each piece is different. The puzzles spectrum and expands every day. You can't tell where a piece by looking at us only by how you behave is when you can expect us some of us have special talents. April is our month. It's when we can be recognized April is autism acceptance month ISA shake the children's hour. Please. Don't Chad picks me. Oh. Chatty. Picks me full of. God. Two components. You'll go pee. Please. The full. Traffic picks the. Utah. Say no. Pill with. Please. The phone. Chad picks. Oh. Cut. Back to that. I'm a precious. Bockel bread man walked away. But I got thanks to go. Go with the show, you know, please. Data fix. The poll. Fix men. Love. Don't try to fix. Don't fix. Got to sell up. Bigger. Levin. You're listening to our. We'll be right back. Supporting our community means a lot to Albuquerque based K in Mali textiles, which is why they're proud to support. The children's hour podcasts their print studio is committed to creating great jobs that include health and education benefits, leadership development and flexible hours for new immigrants and refugees. And nobody find their hand-printed towels at their retail store or in a store near you nationwide. Find out more at K and Molly dot com, that's K E, I and Molly dot com. The children's our podcast is made possible in part by meow. Wolf y'all wolf your portal to the multi-diverse meal will probably supports the children's hour Inc. You're listening to the children's hour. I'm Katie stone. And we're here with our friend Odua Radcliffe, welcome back to the children's hour. Thank you. You are a young naturalist. You're twelve years old, and you observe nature quite a bit. Don't you? Yeah. Me and my family will off will go to the bow scale daily daily almost daily. Yeah. So you see every little incremental change. Yeah. We experienced the changing of the seasons and the river in the plant in the Bush. What are you seeing? Now, it's April. Well, we're here in April. So case NBA's listening to this later. I observed at my house the goodbye of the cranes. I heard them leaving and flying overhead. It seems like they're gone now. Well, a lot of birds are coming in and migrating and some of the winter species are still around and many species won't be here for much longer. But this is a good time because many of the species over the winter species migratory species NS our species overlapping who because many of the Magara Tori species are coming through at this time such as warblers. How would you know, if you're seeing a warbler, well usually kind of bounce around? You can't really get good look at them. May different types of warblers. So if you're not familiar with them, it can be hard to identify them because many birds are bouncy like him the flit around and many of them are there yellow in color when you're identifying birds in the bow scare anywhere. Are you mostly looking are you listening? Well, a little bit of both the songs or the calls of the birds can be very important for denting them, but many birds in the Boesky have similar calls. So it and be good to give you of them. And here the call to build a accurately identify them. So who's leaving right now what winter birds are leaving that might still be lingering? Well, some of the white crowned sparrows are leaving. And they come in in the fall and junk os will be leaving the butter buts or yellow room for blurs, and there is many others. And as you're saying the cranes. They've already basically left. They add out pretty earlier. So what is coming to New Mexico? And are these birds are these birds just migrating through to somewhere else or they coming here to stay for the summer? Well, a little bit of both some of the birds the summer bridge will stay here over the summer in the leave starts cooling down. But some of the other birds will be migrating to other places might be staying here. Western Canada's will be coming through recently. I was walking up in the foothills. I saw my first hummingbird. So they're definitely coming through haven't seen one in my feeder. But they're coming through in some of the hummingbirds they won't come down to the values of up in the mountain. What about animals idea are you seeing change in the animals that you're seeing that are not birds? I should say, you know, the mammals or the lizards well for lizards as it warms up. They're coming out more, and there's lots of little baby lizards running around. In you can see them they like to come in bask in the sun and display and for animals, a lot of the animals such as squirrels are going to be calling pretty soon. And when I was at the nature center, I saw a couple of squirrels running around chasing each other by the feeder. So a lot of animals are going to be more active in because it's getting to summer and reptiles are going to be more active recently. I saw Greece Grohl right near my house. Just kind of flipping around doing his thing. Right. Oh, hi. How's how's it going dogs? Don't eat me are grace girl. Squirrels the common squirrel that we have here. Well, maybe they call them that. But the actual name for them is rock squirrels. They're one of the most common. Squirrels one of the only scrolls in the Bush skip. Do they stay year round? Yeah. I think in the winter, it's you don't really see much of them. And in the summer. They're more vocal. You'll hear them calling and. The be singing in it can be hard to tell their song apart for many birds because it's so musical just a couple of days. I saw hummingbird right by my house in the summer and spring. I get a lot of hummingbirds at my house because the front of my house is covered in trumpet vine, and when the flowers bloom a lot of birds come, but I only I've only seen one hummingbird this spring on so far, but it was really pretty is it a good idea to feed the humming birds nectar, and what do you make your nectar out of the best deal for hummingbirds is well, they do need some sugar because that's what they mainly rely on. And they will glean in catch small insects too for protein. They do rely on sugar, but some nectar for humming. Birds can be bad such as the red dye. The queue may have seen feeders have red dye in them, and that can give them problems with their liver. So it's not good to put out those feeders because we don't want harm them s q. Laurel? Ladwig? What should we be feeding? Our hummingbirds you can use four parts water to one part sugar. And of course, never read die. You'd also don't wanna use natural sugar that around sugar you want the very process white sugar because the other sugars will ferment and go bad more quickly and not Honey either just the very white sugar. That's not so good for us. But actually is okay. For the hummingbird Steph supplement, the nectar that they can get from native plants. Yeah. I want to ask you, what should we be watching for? What are some of your favorites that are about to come back because it's summertime. Well, I've seen some of the birds have been coming through recently have been swallows, and they you'll see them over pond and water or gleaning for bugs and all the hummingbirds returning and in a couple of weeks, we may see throats while the summer tanneries will be arriving soon. The blackhead grow speaks will be coming into the bow skit too. But some of the later birds that are some my family's favorite won't come this season. But they'll come later in the summer. And so they're those are some birds you lookout for do you use an app or anything to help you identify the birds that are the animals that you're seeing in the bow scare or dues books or how do you learn how to identify them? Well, I've been. Burning since really little and so I've come to be able to defy them by sound or by sounder appearance, and I don't know bird or an animal or plant, even I'll I usually have my camera with me in take picture McCain who back to my house, we can look through the field the Bousquet field guide and see if it's in there. You can also if you do take picture upload at two I naturally and say where are you saw it? And you don't even have you don't have to know what it is for any picture because naturalists all over the country will go in and look at it and say, I know what that is. And they'll observe it. 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MMIW Justice for Patricia Platero

True Consequences

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MMIW Justice for Patricia Platero

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Please call the domestic violence hotline at one. Eight hundred seven nine seven two three three. You may remember my friend Edna from part two. And three of Jacob's story Edna had come to know a person named Patricia. Petero as she was working with her to try domestic violence case against a man who had beat Patricia Up. Ed was very connected to this case both personally and professionally while recording. One of Jacob's episodes Edna brought this case up. I asked her if she'd be willing to share it onto consequences. I'm so grateful that she agreed to share this story. It's heartbreaking and it's still unsolved if you have any information related to the death of Patricia Petero please call crime stoppers or go to p three tips dot com so today. I'm joined by Edna and we are discussing the unsolved murder a patricia. Petero I am Eric Carter. Lon Dean and this is true consequences so I remember when we met that last time in my kitchen and we ate some yummy branch. You started talking about this case about your friend. Yes and I really wanted give you a chance to tell her story on the show Because as far as I know it's still not solved. Is that correct that's correct. It's still an open case even though it's gone cold. And so what that means. Is that the entire case file Is With the homicide unit of the Albuquerque Police Department and I actually requested a copy of the file and I would not given permission to to get it because it is still an open case. Wow well I'm sure there's a lot of things that are really probably can be talked about and shouldn't be talked about because of that so definitely definitely respect that. Yeah Yeah so let's let's go ahead and jump right in and start talking about your friend Patricia. Sorry I was GonNa say if you can just give me a little bit of information about who she was in what she meant to you so Patricia Patricia Paterno she died in two thousand fifteen and I. I came into contact with Patricia when I was prosecuting a boyfriend of hers who had beaten her quite badly within an inch of her life and her case is typical in the sense that because she was native. American there was a bias. I guess against her from the police in terms of of the police expecting Patricia to to participate in the prosecution of of this guy but importantly that bias often starts before it often starts from the moment that a crime is even committed against a native woman and the facts of that case were that she and her then boyfriend were at a park over on San Pedro and like trumbull was in the southeast and it was November and he had beaten her unconscious and left her essentially for dead in the park and she had gotten up in stumbled to the street and had fallen unconscious into the street and a guy. A Guy Driving has vehicle actually almost ran over thinking that she was just garbage in the gutter and stopped to move the trash out of the road and realized that it was a human being and that guy. Oddly enough is married to a friend of mine completely randomly. It's really bizarre. And she is a dispatcher for the Kirtland Air Force Base Fire Department so he called Law Enforcement. He called nine one one he called enforcement in they came out and initially she was transported to. Unh with I think she had a broken orbital bone and some other head injuries and the initial responding officer. I don't recall having done anything really helpful to the case other than get her transported to the hospital and later the detective that was assigned to the case. Was this guy by the name of John Kelly. Who was a wonderful cop and he actually died of a heart attack on duty in March of Twenty Fifteen God. Yes so and he was only thirty five and so there was a lot of Weird connections with this case so Initially I recalled knowing that Patricia was transient and obviously with transient with her native transient population. They were any victim or any any person involved in cry neither as victim ruinous were would be notoriously difficult to get a hold out because of the nature of the population through and the first thing that I noticed about Tristesse that she would call me once a week to keep in touch with me and say hi. This is Patricia. What's going on with the case You know I'm here. I'm there and what I learned about her was that she is from Tajalli She she is Navajo. She's DNA and her family is the the PLA Taros the ban the PLA. Taros and she actually pay played the drums for that ban when she had been younger. I don't all how old she was when she died but she she was a musician and she was also a jeweller. She's a great ruler from what I raised him yes an incredible jeweler and her mother is Fanny Patera who is also an incredible jeweler. And so I learned that what Patricia would do is she would go to her workshop into. Hajime with her mother where they had horses and her Little Chihuahua. I believe name was chewy. She would make her jewelry for a couple of months or weeks. Typically and then she would come to albuquerque can. She would sell her jewelry to D. shops the ponds with located at Llamas Fifteenth End Sunwest silver which is located at loomis and fourth. And I think skit male maizels. I'm not sure so the jeweler jewelry buyers at both of those stores would give her either custom. Orders or based on requests from from their population their clientele or Patricia and her mother would just make stuff and She Patricia specialized in Cava Shawn's or which are sort of a specific way of setting Jewelry setting stones and jewellery and then she would buy a lot. She was an alcoholic and she would buy alcohol. And she would sort of party in Albuquerque. For you know couple of weeks maybe a month or to spend all the money she earned and then she would go back to Holly Ali And so sometimes she would call me from Taja. Sometimes she would call me from Albuquerque. Sometimes she would call me intoxicated. Sometimes she would not be intoxicated. Sometimes she would come to the office with her dog Chewy and she became a beacon for me and my prosecution because she was so adamant about this guy being held accountable and additionally she was a witness in another domestic violence case and a victim in another domestic violence case where she had witnessed a guy beat up his girlfriend quite badly in when Patricia came to his aid. He attacked her with a shovel. God Yeah So. Patricia had a lot of violence in her life and but she was very adamant that both of these guys be prosecuted and oddly enough the other case also involved detective John Kelly so in March when detective John Kelly died Those two cases became less prosecutable. If you will because when you lose a witness that's that's never good and obviously I was very concerned about losing those cases because both of the cases were brutal And involves native women which was always something that I felt like. You can't just think oh it's just another drunk native. Been to hell with them. I'm very everybody deserves justice so nobody is. Nobody deserves to be treated that way and nobody deserves to be beaten up like that right and nobody deserves to be dismissed just because they're transient or alcohol issues or because right because of their race and so Patricia was will really a beacon for me on both of these cases because she was so consistent in checking in with me and she was so delightful. Every time. I every time I talked to her. And I I honestly don't recall the the nature of those conversations but they were always relatively brief. They were consistent and I had a victim advocate whose name was Latisha and she patricia would also check in all the time with Latisha separately from checking with me so there were these sort of layers of of Patricia Patricia checking in and So the last time I spoke with her was April of Twenty fifteen and one day in June twenty fifteen. I get a call from our front desk. People at the district. Attorney's office here in Albuquerque. Who Tell me that. A woman by the name of Fanny In the lobby and as unconsolable and that she's saying that she's needs to talk to me and I didn't frequently if that happened I would come down just to kind of see. Her name didn't ring a bell with me. I didn't know that she was atrocious. Mother so I went downstairs and she was crying. Which for a woman was very shocking. Very something was wrong right. Something was very wrong and she begged me to tell her. The last time I talked to Patricia and I will now that you you bring it up. It's it's been a while and so I looked in our computer system and I I saw that. The last time I had spoken with her was early April. And Her mom had attrition Dog Chewy with her and She said there's there's no way something's wrong. Patricia would never leave Chewy. Patricia would never leave Patricia would never not keep in touch with you. And so what I gleaned from that is patrician had spoken to her mother. Abou the cases I assume or me and Latisha but nonetheless mom knew knew where to come so I talked with her and she said that she had tried to report her missing in a Tajalli to a tribal. So a fanny does not live on the reservation. She lives on the corner like just off the reservation so she had tried to report Patricia missing to the tribal Navajo Nation. Tribal police and they would not take report because she doesn't live in the Navajo nation and Burnley County. Sheriff's department would not take report because they so that part of July where she lives is Borough County Bernallio. County wouldn't take a report because they wanted nomination to take a missing persons report and APD wouldn't take a missing persons report. Because a fanny had last seen her at her home into harshly and so in in April. And this was June. And so Fanny was desperate for me to help her. Simply file a missing persons report and I knew that I might be met with the same sort of resistance from the jurisdictions and so what I did was I asked her. Mom Sort of how much of her steps she she fanning had been able to recreate and Fanning told me where Patricia had sold her jewelry. And so I went to the ponds and I went to less over and of course they all knew knew her and all had agreed that they had not really seen her since April on and and we were able to conclude that the last time she had been seen was in Albuquerque and so sequentially I. I don't recall exactly what I did but I I Did I was. I don't remember if I made the report or if her mother made the report but I talked with a police officer by the name of Dan Tour Grimsson with APD he's with APD missing persons and he agreed to take. I believe he took a report but he made missing person flyers and then I cashed in Chit with a friend of Mine Who's actually now? an investigator with the District Attorney's office who then was running the Brin. Leo County Sheriff's Department Ghost Unit which did a lot of stuff with Cell phone data and I asked the person to swear out search warrant on Patricia Z- Cell phone so that we could try and pinpoint her last known. Location and Between Myself Detective Tour Grimsson Detective Heart Shock We did that. And we've heard cellphone. Had last paying on the west side of Albuquerque at the end of April or early May and then had died so her cellphone had died was no longer charging no longer paying and So but at that point there was no there was nothing other than my hunch and Fanny's hunched at something was horribly wrong and I had managed to get these police officers to take her being missing seriously because I had had such good contact with her and I had been able to show them the the frequency of contact and and I think I think I don't remember super specifically but I think that actually detective tour center. Maybe detective heart sock went out to the area where her cell phone had last paying. Didn't it was sort of like a homeless camp And now that I'm thinking back. I think it might have been down by the river and not on the west side but nonetheless there was really nothing else they could do so they they did these flyers. They posted the flyers around. And that was it that was it. And and Fanny would call me and Latisha in tears which was really uncommon and she would tell us these incredible stories about Patricia and You know really wonderful stories to about how Patricia Patricia had this mare. I have this crazy cat. Who'S GONNA START? Meowing GONNA sound like somebody's dying. She's not dying all insieme. Hale Surrey? That's okay but Patricia had a mayor of Horse a female horse in Taj. Delay that she really loved. The mayor had a had a baby and Latisha my victim advocate fostered chewy for a little while because Fanning was just too distraught to to be with the dog and I'd also Been in touch a little bit with Patricia brother was a guy by the name of Murphy. And I don't recall what he he does but he had been in the military roads as well in the band and I would just sort of hear. These stories through anguish about about Patricia. And so a lot of my love for. Patricia came after she went missing. I I recall that she was a jeweler. But I had never really inquired with Patricia about data or thought about it until I started talking to the buyers that the palm Sunwest silver. Who said she she's she's really well-known Jeweler and I believe that. Her grandmother is many Patera also a jeweler. So it's a generational tree that's really beautiful. Yes and it's really interesting because her father whose name I think is Charlie. Tarot is a Was I'm not sure? If he's still alive was a pentecostal church. Revivalist who would travel the nomination in a tent and do church real bibles with the musicians which was sort of how they they got their start and so her family. She was raised pentecostal. Which what I know of Pentecostals what I know of DNA. People I have. I don't understand how those things jive but she just had this really rich history and was very tied to being DNA. And obviously. I think everyone would say well. Where was the boyfriend that you were prosecuting in all of this? And where was the the other guy that she was Victimized by where was he while both of those guys were in jail and I actually ordered their jail phone calls and provided them To law enforcement and so we waited and we knew that she was dead Because I knew that I wouldn't have gone without hearing from her and and her mother new trump tower was Is I don't WanNa say superstitious. Because that diminishes her spiritual intuitive maybe into it and so she would call me every couple of days and just weep and That was a really hard and she though was grateful that I believed her that I was GonNa help her. Do something even though you know at that point there wasn't anything to be done so so. July rolls around and I was in Colorado with my family with my then husband and Where I I have a cabin in Colorado and it's completely remote there's no cell phone service or anything and we were leaving the cabin to come come down and I got a phone call from a friend of mine in homicide and he told me they found her body buried on the west side. I read that it was A. They found her under bricks under some rebel. So the The homicide so obviously she was buried so that made it suspicious but she was very decomposed and so they were not able to determine initially a cause of death and where she was found either was or had been part of a sort of a homeless camp and Yeah I believe somebody with a dog. Had the dog had found her and And so it was devastating. Because you know she had been there awhile. Yeah and I don't know that she had been there for you. Know all of May all of June or I'm not. I'm not familiar with the autopsy report. I've I've never read it But THE SOURCE. That was a great source of pain for her mother. Sure to think that Because the DNA culture is very specific. On how the dead should be buried and that that scenario knowing that information was very very very upsetting to her mom and then with autopsy. When there's just phones there's not a lot to autopsy in terms of the way that we think of you know a body being cut into and without you know a hole in the skull or comeback or some clear on the bones. You can't decide you can't determine the The cause of death and what I know collaterally is that her body was sent to believe the FBI. Or maybe a forensic pathologist looked at her body and then are ruled it a homicide but I don't know what the findings were that that made it a homicide but it was a homicide and then finally her mother received her body back and Because at time her her death had not been ruled. A homicide she. Patricia was not her. Mother was not able to collect New Mexico. Crime Victims Reparation Commissions Funds in order to bury her. And so letitia had previously worked as a mortician at Daniels and got them to donate and everything for her burial and she was. Funeral was actually on October nine I think. Yeah Tober ninth of Twenty Fifteen. Which was my last day at the District Attorney's office and myself and the homicide detective went to her services on and her mother made us these incredible beautiful big blue. Rose corsage is that I still have. Wow so I have a couple of follow up questions One of the things that struck me when you were telling this was the fact that the county sheriff's office was not willing to help. That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. I mean I don't understand the workings of law enforcement because I'm not in it but It seems pretty. Clear that if somebody's in Bernallio county like that. That's definitely the jurisdiction. Get the idea that it's on the border but it just seems like in my opinion Maybe laziness I don't know if that's if that's appropriate to say but that's just what looks like from the outside I mean I think that it's kind of a combination of a lot of things which is When somebody goes missing doesn't necessarily mean that a crime has occurred and so the cops really tried to only focus on crimes The area where she lives. There are many areas across the state that Have this weird jurisdictional issues of is this tribal land is the state land is federal land whereas this an in. That's not atypical. To have law enforcement as well as for example. Cya of the saying not our jurisdiction that snob donation or for their these weird pockets all across the state. Where are very frequently these jurisdictional quibbling and Taj? Elliot's short of one of those areas. There's a lot of areas in grants. There's a lot of areas up around to suit GAM Walk Gay that are for example. There's a piece of property that I think it's only ten acres maybe in it's privately own but it's really a no-man's-land because the state won't take jurisdiction over at the tribal police won't take jurisdiction over at the. I want so in this family like out there with sort of no on capabilities so so so those questions are always sort of out there and But I also think that a component of it was well. This is just a drunk Indian. Goes back and forth from Tasha late Albuquerque and You know she's drunk somewhere she'll turn This is the kind of stuff that drives me. Nuts the attitude of. Oh it's just a sex worker. Oh it's just another drug addict. It's just another alcoholic. He no no matter what. Somebody's going through in their life no matter what they're dealing with it doesn't excuse horrible things happening to them. They may put themselves in precarious situations. But it still doesn't mean they deserve to be murdered and forgotten about well. I think to what I'm really feeling about. Cova da is that we are seeing the hundreds of years of institutional racism that is wiping these communities out and people can say oh well natives drink and that's why there are more susceptible but I think for for our native communities like alcoholism was not a choice right lake like it was. It was something that was introduced to them and was put on them by by our our history against native peoples are by our colonization of these communities and so while those things may be true that they that that native suffer alcoholism higher than what other whatever other population. I don't know the statistics on that but but to me the first question is whose fault is that. And and part of the answer is it doesn't matter who's father was right but the other part of it is a it's not their fault and like if we we Cana in this probably sounds really paternalistic that it's disturbing to me that we have created this this white kind of Western civilization in these tribal communities to fit into it and then when they struggle within it were like well. You're an alcoholic. I don't want to fuck Intel. You unlike we we have to take responsibility in in say yes. It's important that cops on the street care about another drunk Indian but what is the. What is the bigger question in its racism? It's a lot. It's a lot of things that there's a lot to unpack and I'm certainly not qualified to do that but well because I don't feel like I'm educated enough about all of it. I learned a lot on this show and talking to people and and I've known a lot just growing up here but I I honestly don't feel like I am qualified to say what's GonNa fix that because I don't know that anybody has that answer but I know that I think you're right. The the hundreds of years of oppression and neglect and trauma and trauma and also wanting them to like you said conform to what we have but also like not allowing them to do that as well and saying to a certain extent. You're a sovereign nation. But that's only as far as I think that that makes sense for me and then until that point that I'm GonNa be in control and that whole thing is completely backwards in crazy. You know I really want my listeners to humanize every victim of crime because everybody deserves to be able to live their lives without that you know without people harming them and if people do harm them than they deserve dignity and they deserve justice and they don't deserve to be treated like crap because are victim. Patricia can't speak for herself anymore and she didn't deserve what happened to her no matter what her circumstance was so it's Probably gonNA sound really preachy. But I'm very passionate about this. You know being somewhat of victim myself I hate that word but You know I just. I want everyone to see these. These are people and Patricia. Meant something to a lot of people and people loved her and they miss her now and that shouldn't be discounted and she was me on a on a different day right. I mean you know I I. I don't necessarily believe in God but I really believe in like they're for the grace of God go. I know it and she was very resilient and she was very You know she she would. I think I think that I think that one of the things that we we discount. It is the ability of people with drug and alcohol problems to understand that they have a problem. You know that that somehow we think that they don't know that they have a choice like they could just decide to stop. Yeah Yeah you know. And so. She was very I don't want to say that. She was unashamed because I think that she was ashamed but I think that she honored her own resiliency and that is what that is. What led her to keep in touch with me. And that is what led her to be this very consistent Cin even in the face of this kind of thing that that people want to use as an excuse to disregard everything about you. That was remarkable to me that that is that is why she always stuck in my memory. I mean even before even before her mom came into my office that day that that you you can be in the presence of greatness and witnessed these kind of real truths about people's core in the middle of just sort of chaos and almost nece in abuse abuse. You know she hit she. She was somebody who was abused by everybody. She came in contact with you know but she still. She chose to come. She would choose to come into town she would choose to kind of hang out with his like the more. Damore the transient native population. That was she was not homeless. She was transient but she hung out with a homeless population. That was more you know. The didn't have couldn't go back to the reservation or chose not to an in that she walked between these two worlds very consciously and I doubt she wanted to be an alcoholic but but she she sorta bargained it. You know she. She had her own way with it. And and it's like she accepted. That was what was happening and try to make the most of it sounds like and and she's still was in touch with all of this kind of family support that that really was unique. The that told me that she sort of loved yourself more than a lot of the other victims that I come into contact with who have who have completely skewed all of all of those connections that that she was always trying to find that that connection within ourselves and not that righteousness of of standing up for herself and she would say to me like I know people think I'm just a drunk Indian because because she and I would talk. I remember one time. She night talked about After John Kelly died see. I'm remembering all this stuff after John. Kelly died she had called me because she had heard that he had died on the news. Or something and she called me and said you know he was the only one that was nice to me. Everybody thinks I'm just drunk in you know in in it was such a Because people think that that the people they judge don't know what you know right like you like. I know you think I'm sad. It's okay if you say you're fat like I. I know that she was so grateful that he had taken her seriously in that then in turn that. Latisha had taken her seriously and that we didn't care that in spite of what a weird case at. What factually. It was kind of. Run the mill but but my connections to the case because I got copy of the nine one one tape. Which was this guy calling the cops and I was like Holy Shit. That's by friend's husband and you know the allowed them. It's nine one one callers. You know there are. You never find them so so. I just remember Patricia thinking that it was very very synchronous that that that I knew the nine one one I mean it was just. I don't know those are strange. Connections and actually the defense attorney on the case with her boyfriend really liked her too because she had done a pretrial interview prior to her going missing and in fact we were set for trial in June before she die before her body was found and heard his lawyer liked her so much that he was like I want my guide a plea even though we think she said wow yeah and his guy was like no go fuck yourself which made tank that the guy must be involved but there. There was never anything to improve it. Yeah so as it stands now. Too cold case unsolved. So it's not closed. Do you know anything about any potential theories suspects ideas? Anything that you can share. I mean not really I mean. I know that that the detective. I just talked to him about the case a couple of days ago. 'cause like I said I tried to to get a copy of the case I I know that he he knew because when when she went when I found out she was missing. You know I had told everybody in the homicide department like I want you to call me if you find her and so he's the one who called me. I am and so. He knew he knew how important she was to me and he really beat the bushes. You know he went and he talked to the Ponds. He talked to The cell the buyers at some sober he tracked down the the last people that had been a what we think was the last time she was seen alive and he really followed every lead that he could in they. All kind of fizzled out in the end. I know that he left homocide actually shortly after that and I still talk about how much the case breaks are hurt and actually I just. I'm so latisha still talks to fanny and I do not talk to fanning because I feel heartbroken about it and it and it's I can't I can't handle her pain but I just sent her a long letter and some of my daughter's really bad preschool artwork and some masks nice. Yeah into Haji last week and so I do. She just had her gallbladder out her mom her head gallstones or something much earlier. My Gosh so just you know I'm just going to plea with my listeners. Right now that if you know anything or if you saw anything if you have any rumors or ideas or anything please please go to crime. Stoppers Goto the anonymous tip. Line Online. You don't have to give any of your personal information to a tip about this case It's a. It's a shame that she was treated with such disrespect in disregard for her life and for who she was as a person. Yeah it really is and you. It's it's heartbreaking that you sometimes learn more about people after they're gone and and for me. I have regretted that I didn't I don't know hold onto her more somehow or or give her resources you know. She probably wouldn't have taken now. That's who she says. Is there anything else you WANNA share about her about the case or I just WanNa say that it doesn't matter who you are Where you come from what you do. That's good or bad. Everybody deserves to have closure whatever that looks like and that her mom really deserves to have a way of knowing what happened to her daughter and. I think that it's clear that Patricia suffered and there's no there's no taking away that reality. I'm moving to plug my computer. And there's no taking away that knowledge that that she suffered but that to provide her mom with even more closure Abou- about because I think part of it is that her mom wants to believe that her daughter had valued by this person being prosecuted. Unlike sort of what you're going to I think yeah. I think it's what a lot of people in the situation are going through as much as you don't want to admit that you need that validation you deal you. I thought about that after our conversation when you asked me about that and I got a little offended with you at that moment but you know what I do want that and I and I think that Patricia family deserves that And it's the least. That could happen for them. Yeah I mean it is the least and I think the good news is that her death was eventually ruled a homicide. I don't remember The the findings but there was a NAS evidence in body on her wherever know however they did that to to rule it a homicide definitively which is very it draws a line in the sand and I think that you know? Apd homicide is struggling. Right now I think I think everybody's struggling right now with Cova on I I I do know that. The the agent The detective I know that he cares very deeply about it and and and I know that the the cold case detectives do to and I. I know that in her death her death will beat her. Death will be taken seriously and to the extent that if they can find somebody I think that they would prosecute him but again you. You felt that there's somebody that could be prosecuted. We know who it is. Yeah know maybe. That's just me. Have being naive. I don't know will. Let's hope that that's the case and let's hope that I agree. I think it's good that it was ruled. A homicide in the sense that now there's no statute of limitations now for as long as this case is cold in open. There's an opportunity. There's a chance that it could still result in some sort of action. Yeah let's hope for that. I guess I just WanNa say one more thing. Just a little shoutout. So today's May night that we're recording this and today is the ninth anniversary of a homicide Of a woman by the name of Leeann Sanders. Who was killed by her boyfriend and it is the homicide case. That made me quit smoking. Really yes and so. I still keep in touch with Leah's mom who's a delightful human being by the name of Zinta who lives in California and so her murder. Leah's murderer is in prison. Yeah I prosecuted him. And so every may ninth comes along and I think about Lia and her her mom. Know here's Leah. Here's to all the victims of domestic violence and to Patricia and her family and to everyone else still seeking justice in Mexico. Thank you Eric Really. Truly like. You have been such a gift in my life. And you really. You've really clarified. A lot of things for me about who I am and who I want to be an who I want what I want my life to be going forward and I just feel that I just feel so blessed and I just feel so excited about your show and about what you're doing in the format and just everything about you so I love Lee. I really really love you. I just such a blessing. Thank you an again. Can't thank you enough for your help in. I know where we're still working Yes we might have a little bit of wind taken out of our sales because of the krona virus but I am looking forward to what else we can do. Together and at glass will with that. I Wanna I wanNA thank you for joining me and I want WanNa thank my listeners for for listening to Patricia Story again if you know anything or if you know anyone who knows anything please urge them to call crime stoppers or submit anonymous tip online and with that. Stay Safe New Mexico. Thanks again for listening to consequences us on social media on instagram and facebook at true consequences pod and on twitter at true cons pod. True consequences is hosted written and produced by me your host. Eric Carter Line Dean. Thanks for listening and stay safe New Mexico.

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Live From The Library With Congresswoman Deb Haaland

The Children's Hour

58:00 min | 2 years ago

Live From The Library With Congresswoman Deb Haaland

"What does the librarian say one she has to leave no time it's time for the children of our broadcasting from the central ohio so why very in albuquerque new mexico then then do do do do do do do do do do do and then do the things they do and they need they need to don things the things i think they do they do they do they do but i definitely i i certainly do that do do do do do do do do do do don news ninety but they do things those this thing's been eyeing a one news team in do do it will all be have guy do either either these ideas i play man clicking away do your own thing in turn they did they won't do that do one do do do do do do they really yeah thank you thank you very much the silly ads they introduce yourself which i'm really adds politically and unfortunately that is on display that's originally a robot like a year ago and i wrote it from my friends and my family and there's no play makes i really think about them so are basketball the silliest and my sister is on the drums her name is lola and she says twelve and on the guitar to my left we have my dad will welcome to the children's are great to have you all about and in gallup new mexico an extra coming all the way in and you are tuned to the children's our i am katie stone and i am just delighted to be here with all of our crew here hello crew hi everybody hi hello audience nice just add especially excited because on today's show we have a lot going on standing next to us is new mexico's is congressional district number one representative deb holland please give a warm welcome congresswoman holland she grew up in a military family andy you're dad was a thirty year combat marine he was awarded the silver star metal for saving six livestream vietnam wow you're mom is a navy veteran who was a federal employee for twenty five years and indian education andy you were single mom an end we listen to the children's out on my daughter 'em you are a from the laguna you have hamis pueblo heritage an we're just so thrilled you are one of the first two native american women that's right elect long overdue overdue and were proud that you are congress thank you i'm proud i'm honored and proud to be you're congresswoman and it'd be all of your congresswoman to you has been a public servants before you even were knew what that was well yeah i mean in a way files a in a way yes well my parents serving our country yes of course but a but also for a long time i've worked really hard to make sure that people had a chance to vote 'em i traveled in indian country have been the gallup so many times a because i really felt like it was important important that everyone's voices heard so i tried really hard to make sure that folks got out to vote when it was time i drove him to the polls i registered them 'em so that was always fun yeah well we're gonna with the kids you already well we should probably introduced the crew on katie will come down over here hello would then have looked at how some of that jimmy high end seven let's start with you i know you have a question for the congresswoman as a woman of congress what exactly is it that you do well we deal to admit thing that we all want to do is make sure that were making the live of constituents better which collectively all four hundred thirty five us making the live of a people in this country better so we work on offering legislation that we can pass in are in are chamber of the house chamber a we also we also a you know we we meet with people we in my district office is somebody has trouble for example getting their social security benefits of their veterans benefits we we open a case for them and we make make sure that they can get the benefits that they're that they're eligible for so we help people on the ground here in new mexico and then in dc a we we work to pass legislation that will help people the question well save it simply library what would you favor look near a kid unless you favor now my favorite book when i was a kid probably charlotte's web i think i read that about four times that's a good one bad one but a charlotte's web it all but my daughter's favorite book when she was growing up we read it over and over and over again was the giving tree is anyone ever read that and yeah that was a good book that's always a good book i should read it now and it makes me cry though i kinda sad redoing it what's your favorite book now my favorite book now well i've moved onto really boring books at the kids pretty well like like the last one i read what's called the waxman reports oh everyone's eyes glaze over that's about henry waxman in his time in congress and how successful he was even this when using the minority he helped to change the laws like henry waxman weaken thank him for people not smoking in public places wow wow thank you can relax and yet so when you're in that situation now where it's pretty hard to get laws passed all the way through both houses answer but we can't stop trying end is that the message the henry waxman had yes henry henry waxman really believe that it when he was in the minority he worked on things to make to sort of like bring them up to a heads up when they got in the majority he was able to get things passed see you have to really get public input input in support for the things you wanna do so we'd like he talked about it being so difficult taking all this huge tobacco industry right but he he kept inching forward and by the time he you know he was able to be the chairman of the committee and bring a mall in front of them a he is able to make some changes with that so you can ever stopped trying sounds good i like that attitude yes what is your perspective on gun safety in how do you plan to reduce the number of school shootings so in congress we've already passed the bill in the house hr eight in it makes everybody have a background check every single person before they wanna have a gun it makes have have a background check and then there's also another bill that we passed that would increase priests the waiting period to ten days instead of three days so 'em there was eight shooter who went into a church and shot people and he was able to get a gun because a his address what's wrong on his application for his gun license in a because there was a a law that says after three days you could still have you gotten even if we don't do complete the background check he was able to get a gun so we increase that to ten days to give everybody time to make sure that they're in you know looking at everyone's background so that if they shouldn't have a gun and they don't get a gun but that's that's those are two good laws we pass this this time around and i'm hoping that the usa senate a will bring him to the floor so they can pass those laws in the senate because i really care about kids and i don't want any any student being afraid to go to school lecture favorite part of the job my favorite part of the job really is talking with people i meet some wonderful wonderful people in my job and i'll give you an example of one a a doctor who i met he came into my office is name is angie aurora and he started the echo program it's this echo program that could help people all over the world even if the doctor isn't right there in front of you he can still help you are using modern technology in community partners and so he was really a he's a very smart man but he cares about people in a when i met him it was a really great day i love that were speaking with congresswoman deb holland she represents new mexico's congressional district number one an i guess i i wanna ask you some questions and i know you have a question to to weaken come to that but before we come to your question i just wanna ask a question about process a lot of us can't understand why when you have a great bill and a great law and it goes to the house or it doesn't go through the house comes from senate like when i have a great idea katie's law okay well let's see something already but everybody's a great idea of the children's our law and we bring it all the way to you you what happened just happened right well i mean i should be able to come do and say isn't this a great idea and you say what a great idea then what happened get it went on what if that happens i bring you a great idea so if you gave me a great idea for a law that you thought she'd go into effect because it would help every single child in the world then we would get we would have some meetings and we will find out exactly what it would do and then we might have some hearings in are committees a we bring you and some other kids kids to the witness table and we'd ask questions so that we could fully understand exactly what kind of blood is you wanna pass and then we would have are a a the congressional research service research every part of it to make sure they were not missing anything and then they put it in this nice font that looks good on paper add an end so a once once we have a bill that's kind of written up and we talked to all of our colleagues and say you should support this bill and then we get co sponsors to it and then we file it in the house and then every everyone thinks it's terrific so all the house members pass it you know we get it to the floor and there's a big board on the wall an you have your card and you put it in a vote yes or no everybody votes yes and then we send it over to the senate side and hopefully they do the same thing and then the president's eventually signs the bill and it becomes becomes law that is a very long process it is it takes a long time that's why it took henry waxman twenty years to stop smoking in public places but that seems crazy to have a great question which i come mike an ask it that'd be great come all the way up buddy okay you're listening to the children's our broadcasting at the central in unser library with congresswoman deb haaland go for it evan haugen kids held in mexico have one hundred percent clean energy wow well i think i think you guys so you guys have a lot of say whether you believe it or not and i am thinking about this group of kids called they called themselves global we global mobile warming emergency and you know what they did they went to the city council and they said we don't want plastic bags or straws and are city and we want you to pass a law that says we shouldn't have plastic bags straws because we care about are environmental we care about the future of our planet and so all those kids went to the city council and talk to the city councilor than i think we got a bag bill pass wielded affect sometime time soon but i think you know you guys where us adults sometimes we need kids did tell us what to do i'm just saying where all for that on the power a fruit you say you cells and that's why whenever i was trying to get people to vote so we could get people elected who care about the environment and who wanna a who want clean energy a i would always tell the kids go home until you're parents devote so so yes we want to 'em i am very very strong on renewable energy in fact have solar panels on my house and we have an electric car so were speaking congresswoman depp holland and we're gonna come back with her after a break you're tuned to the children's our broadcasting from the central and unser library stick with us will be right back the children's hour is produced by the children's our incorporated a new mexico nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality kids public radio support provided by listeners just like you learn more at children's jabber dot or follow us on social media we're at t c h radio the children's our be right back and then we do the the the the the the the the the the the the we are at thee central in unser library right here in albuquerque on the west side we've got a great audience hello everybody and we also have congresswoman deb holland who has taken so graciously the time come on the children's our if you thank you thanks for letting us just ask you a bit jillian questions in the gene you're burning with a question go for it i have two things one so my sister she is in a group called garden and she helps they see that going on currently in congress with respect to like climate change and the environment and things like that so one thing is that myself and congressman ben ray luhan hunting congresswoman so chill tourist small we all co sponsored a bill to protect chaco kenyan from drilling wow so for those people around the country who have no idea idea which are talking canyon is a national historic park i believe the designation is an it's in north western new mexico in its z it's my ancestral homeland the pueblo indians lives there centuries centuries and centuries ago as they built these beautiful big beautiful structures end now anybody any of you can go see it and just think about what it was like for for native americans from centuries and centuries ago to living and working in play there an so we wanna make sure they were protecting it for all you guys and an end kids who who aren't actually born yet we we don't watch fracking and drilling in that area we wanna keep it very nice and i'll tell you because it's my ancestral homeland i care deeply about it but it belongs to all new mexicans and so that's why we wanna protect it yeah thank you for doing that we needed that it is a world heritage site to james bond with just created his world heritage site so it is really a treasure for everyone in the planet choco canyon in an er room i recommend enough going hiking chaco kenya with kids because it is a lot of fun the doorways in the little rooms are like kids size so it's kind of fun yes yes yes really okay go ahead what other really important things where you working on a very cover congress well i'd like to think that every single thing i work on is important but i'll tell you one this'll this'll make all your parents happy 'em we recently filed a bill a universal childcare bill that will help people have child care so i'll tell you as a single mom when i was raising my daughter it was really hard 'cause i couldn't for childcare so i had there were like i had always consider that when i was working or doing anything in fact so we feel like if we if we pass a universal childcare bill in both houses the house and the senate and the president's signs it that it will help millions and millions of kids and parents a to be able to afford childcare so that they can go to school or get the job they want or or you know just do other things because in part of that child care bill it has an educational component so that it's early childhood education also works with local a childcare entities but but i think that would change that would change people's lived in it for the better and so that's one big thing that i'm working on that i'll be getting a lot of support for childcare that is so important other countries offered that her kids infor working parents and so it's really time the united states caught up thank you for doing that eat there of course were working to make sure that people can have everybody kind of healthcare to and that's really important to kids it is 'em yeah go ahead imaging hardest part of your job besides walking seven miles is yes i just showed her my shoes they're worn out from from all the walking i do their 'em the hardest part of my job is well you know sometimes it's a little frustrating right like like you really really like i'll tell you we passed the house passed a bunch of bills like good bills bipartisan bills that would help a lot of people people and they're kind of just sitting over in the senate and not doing anything so we would really like those bills to get on the senate floor so that they can pass the senate also a because sometimes it's a it's a little frustrating to work really hard and then and then you're moving forward forward forward in that all of a sudden everything stops so we'd like it to keep going we might things to keep going and i think that would be really good for all you guys other other parts you're job that feel like you have such great ideas and so many good things you could be doing they get stuck by something else that has nothing to do with congress and i guess i'm we are here in new mexico where a border state and i cannot help but think about the border what's happening down there and it almost seems like congress isn't doing much about that and i know you're trying but what are you doing yes well 'em yes eight we did that there was a bill that was passed 'em humanitarian tarian aid package for the kids on the southern border an so 'em i hope that they do what needs to be done for those children because i feel really sad about all of that yeah we do to we do too but in other news you are working on pretty amazing initiatives native american country since you've been in office he talked a little bit about that so one of them is a native american can business incubator bill that will help native businesses to get started an end 'em i just feel really strongly that here in new mexico and here in albuquerque a small businesses are the backbone of our community here and if people sometimes people don't need don't need a whole bunch of money to get started they need a little bit of money and they need a place to get started perhaps an and so so we thought that would be helpful to folks anand 'em in of course i am there's really a others sad 'em situation here in our country and they call it the crisis and missing and murdered indigenous women so were working hard on that too so that every family in our country can feel safe we love those ideas were speaking with congresswoman deb holland she's one of the first to ever elected to congress native american women in our country and i think the kids have exhausted all other questions any more questions i know one of the questions at one of the kids who's not here asked me to ask you which i'm gonna get on the table congresswoman how do you lives both in new mexico end in washington an if you have pets how do you handle them so i have i have four dogs you can't believe that i have for shelter dogs and one reds dog if anyone knows where they know what a resident the silly as snow arrives dog is 'cause they living gallup 'em i have four sheltered i'm sorry three shelter dogs and one reds dog an i'm very very lucky that my significant other takes care of all for dog so you take some four walks every single day a which i can't do when i'm in washington dc so let's give him a hand real quick you rent an apartment renting an apartment it's very expensive just just throwing that out there washington dc expensive city the living but i'll tell you what i did not take my car to washington dc i walk every day in my office which saves carbon from going into the atmosphere at i take the metro whenever i have to go somewhere else besides a that's not close to capitol hill so it's about a half a mile from my apartment to my office so i walk there every day and then and then i'm just gonna put a plug in for water bottles because i'm trying to zero waste on my cup so i take my water bottle every day all my committee hearings and everything like that in an my colleagues or you know they're starting to take there's two i love it i love it at one last question from then let's hear it so being a congresswoman has that affected how people treat you and give you a well i don't think so when i see people in the grocery store they you know they recognize me now so it takes and what it used to take fifteen minutes now it takes forty five minutes but a cause i have to say hi to everybody but but you know it's like i'm a new can andy where all new mexicans and we all care about are state inner city and we all like one big family so a so i think they pretty much treat me the same as they always did congresswoman deb holland represents new mexico's because congressional district number one encompassing most of albuquerque an i think all of albuquerque and a little bit of the surrounding area thank you so much for being with us on the children now riser all you're not too much oh you didn't a lot of wanting to be murray bill and then on capitol hill long long journey to what they did that's a long long way bob's they're mad at a new home or a bit of rain that will but then i am email you certainly have a lot well i've got this when i started out i wasn't a b o i would just do you see some balls back home decided they wouldn't have lows will be down road i became a building out remaining abuna to make me a lot and i got a job well done well done man wait while the new congress may whether they lend me a law that very well but they do just who who arguing about one of the lucky one even i hope he does i mean regular otherwise i mean yeah documented boom what it looked like i'm not going to go to the senate and they start all over again we'll get a beer they may not run again well then all the wind blown off line where a lot of the father the son of being a hero law that will lead to the i don't know you should be alone and you'll know does is going to go through that time you know my time in an area like living in no wonder you know be nine hour you're a law right all where we learned it's not that easy hey it takes a long time to get a bill to be a la you're tuned into the children's hour on katie stone in here with a lot of great people at these central in unser library hi everybody nice crowd here lots of kids andrew sue hauser she is you're the big boss woman here at the central and unser library you're the boss and i'm so happy you're with if you're a librarian i am an we can't wait to talk to you more so we have a lot of questions how do you other libraries connect with this one and what do you what is the kind of relationship wisconsin with a libraries around the country okay that is actually a great question so here at the albuquerque public library bernallio county first of all we're the library for albuquerque and bernallio county so that's the connection and then all eighteen of our branches all across the city are connected so when you get a library card here it's good anywhere that you go around the city 'em we share are collection so that's the connection so you could check things out here and return them at another library 'em beyond that we also have what's called inter library loan so if you're looking for something that we don't have here in our system will check it all are libraries if we don't have it we have a way of connecting libraries around the country to bring that infer you it's sort of like a club and we pay a fee they pay a fee and we share books that way that we we could make sure that even if you're living in albuquerque you can get anything you need i love that i love that old is the concept of a library how like libraries seem like i know what we read in the news years back about librarian timbuktu like three thousand years or something like that okay well one of the things about being a librarian is that you feel really strongly about making sure that you make the crew you give people the correct information so that's why we're so much better than google 'em we we give you the correct information so now you got me worried 'cause you've asked me a question that i don't know the precise in answer to but i will say libraries are thousands of years old it is sort of part of the human condition to want to celebrate ideas and learning and knowledge and have a place where people can come together to celebrate that so 'em libraries are certainly thousands of years old i love the idea that were part of something so oh yeah please you're my yes what's your favorite book oh that's the hardest question were 'em congresswoman holland already kind of took a couple of of mine 'em you really liked that henry waxman book to get no sleep she's charlotte's web and they the giving tree i 'em i love children's books and i feel the children's florence books speak to us to speak to everyone of all ages in a way that other books do not a so i'm gonna stick with congresswoman holland's 'em charlotte's why she had a pretty good leslie yeah that's a tough wouldn't it be is there anything that you wish people knew about libraries that people just don't really know that list is very long 'em but you're top three om i i wish everyone knew that the public library is here for everyone everything is at the public library is free and open to the public if there's a if there's a program going on it's for you if there is a library built in your neighborhood it's for you if there are materials that you're library therefore you therefore everyone and they're here to meet the needs of the community people often ask me how have libraries changed libraries are so different 'em that is true 'cause we have a wide range of materials that we might not have had ten years ago even but the basic purpose of the library is to provide a community space for people to come together for learning and families to be together other 'em to find the information you need that part hasn't changed so if there's something you need to libraries the place the check and see if they can help you we are motto is we may not have it but weaken sure find it for you so no at the library is for you we have lots and lots of 'em digital resources available on our website that you don't even have to necessarily have a library card for although we wish that you would come get a library card but but 'em things how you're homework and that's abc's library dot org correct thank you for being on the children's are mary sue hauser end you're listening to the children's our children's hours produced by the children's our incorporated a new mexico nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality kids public radio support provided by the friends of the children shower find out more at 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Mentors

The Children's Hour

58:11 min | 1 year ago

Mentors

"It helps us out a lot when you become a Patriot supporter. Find the children's hour podcasts. At Patriotair Dot com slash the children's hour and thank you. What is the US as brother? I know it's time for children's hour. Radio uh-huh yeah the Dow Jones The in one what I beg My best best friend Freddie Mercury in Queen Right here on the children's Hour I M Katie Stone. I'm here with a bunch of great people. It's lovely to have you. Hello Hello Happy Day. It's my heights Daniel. Hi It's Lukasz. Hey it's Isaac Hello. Hello I'm Jamea. Well well hello everyone. It's a nice day to be here on the children's hour and today we're GONNA be talking about mentors and I wonder her if anyone has a good definition for what is a mentor anyone's going to give it a shot. Sure Daniel I think a mentor is is a person that helps you go along with something like let's say a mentor in singing is a person teaching you on helping you get better at a certain subject correct. I think a mentor is like a person that kind of is just supporting you and whatever you do I think you're right about that and usually a mentor is as someone who's been doing whatever they're doing to mentor you in for longer than you have so right like a singing mentor might be like a professional singer. Her who's doing mentoring for you for singing or other kinds of mentors are adults who get involved in kids. Lives lives to help them in school and in other ways to feel like they have an adult friend. WHO's really on their side? And today we're GONNA be talking with big brothers big sisters of New Mexico and we're GONNA learn what mentoring is and how kids can get had a mentor and how adults can be mentors. But before we go too far I wanted to ask. Does anyone on our crew today. How have some kind of mentor in your life? So in were in fifth grade In every student in fifth grade as a bilingual zeal and we all have a mentor. For that so yeah I have a mentor He. What is your mentor do she? Just kind of like doc helps me with like Getting me all the service learning projects. Meet Yeah Maya. I count how Piano Teacher as a mentor. What does she do that I? I'm assuming it's a she. Sorry what does she do that makes you feel like she's your mentor. She teaches me piano due to look up to her. Yes because I want to play like her some day. I'm thinking about you your you work as a volunteer here at the Natural History Museum and I know that the man who is in charge of the education room really admires you and then in how much you know. Do you feel like that man. Mike is your mentor somewhat. Mike is really helpful but mainly I feel like our mentor is another volunteer. Linda Walton. And she is. She's really been helpful. She's Vol- volunteered at the museum for many years and she's taught us a lot about the room and doing things that we do there and she's kind of like a mentor. US You know even adults have mentors to. It's not just kids. We're GONNA learn all about that today on the show with big brothers big sisters New Mexico we also got to pay a visit to the state of the city address given by our mayor every year and while we were there we talked with kids about what they think makes our city cool and their answers are universal and also on the show today a little something from Storyteller Bill Harley but before we get there but this is Mojo and Taj Mahal right here on the children's hour people just you talk about all the begun and uh-huh catcher. Does this been but some good they are in a row. uh-huh how it keeps the Intern it Wa. We take a long number. It can't be beat China doll. Don't go around Yeah we we look at this under there but nothing nothing nothing camp the the Dow back it Wa wa take mm-hmm mm-hmm it. Why can't we be friends smashmouth? And before that you heard Taj Mahal and cab mo from CD called Taj Mo all around the world. You're listening to the children's hour and today on the show. We are talking with big brothers. Big Sisters New Mexico specifically Sharon Tenorio. And you work with big brothers big sisters yes. I'm the the chief marketing and outreach for our area welcome to the children's hour thank you. We're also talking with Jennifer Roth. You are a big sister yes I am. I'm great and you'll tell us more about what that's all about so looking forward to it and we also have in the studio Jamila Jimmy. You are a little sister right yes yes I am. Okay okay so we're going to find out more about what you do and kids got questions here on the crew. So let's start. What is big brothers and big sisters? Big Brothers big sisters is eight Mentoring Organization where we match adult volunteers with kids who just need an extra adult or supporter in their life. We like to say that we defend the potential of youth throughout our community. What are some things is that you do with big brothers and big sisters so Jamila and I I will say I think would probably agree? Whoever matched us I I think did a wonderful job We love to do our projects outside and love to do things where we we learned new things so we often go to the Albuquerque. Museum on Saturdays is one of our favorite places to visit Every Saturday they have on our project act we usually try to go and do that. Our project and there have been many many Saturdays where we've been kind of kicked out because we're still working on our projects so if you're one of the little sisters or brothers. How often would you meet with your mentor? I can speak to to Djamil depending on what's going on in our lives Sometimes we get together twice a month maybe three times a month But generally I think we average about once a month Jamila is pretty busy involved in lots of stuff We also try to have events Where the kids? The kids and the adults can get together and get to know each other a little bit better for example last year we had a scavenger hunt. They were trying to find two different clues and then the winner got a got a small prize last night. Some of the matches went to a a play at one of our local art houses. So we do those kinds of things to get people. In case adults run out of ideas to do. Do we have activities for them to do like once or twice a month that way especially when an adult is new a a new volunteer. Sometimes they just need ideas to get their little's involved in with them Jamila. Did you want to have a big sister. How did how did you get one? I guess is my gramma joining me out of the house more because I did not want to leave my house because I am a potato. How long have you been together for? Big Brothers. Big Sisters maybe over a year. Yeah we've matched for about a year and a half. And how long will you guys like be together as big sister little sister. Well if I understand correctly we can't be matched through Jamila Eighteenth Birthday. Yeah so we we. We require a minimum of a year commitment from both volunteer. And the little little brother or little sister in their families because the the families have to be involved a little bit but after that year. It's really up to the match that to to decide how long they want to go. What states does big brothers and big sisters working like? We're throughout the United States. So almost actually every state has a big brothers. Big Sisters Agency. We try to cover as much as much of the territory as possible. There are over three hundred fifty branches throughout the United States. So the there's a chance if you're very interested wherever you live there. There's probably a big brothers big sisters serving you. How can we get involved with big brothers? Big Sisters well depending if you're a young young person or an adult the little bit different so you would go to our website or go to the big brothers big sisters of America Echo website and sign up there and then from there we would bring you in for an interview both the kids and their families as well as the adults colts get interviewed. And then we match you with and we match youth with an adult who has similar interests. So you know if you're a really sports type person we're not going to match you with somebody who just likes to be in the librarian read. We're going to match you with someone who likes the sports parts that you like to do. Jamila do you like it when you get together with Jennifer. You look forward to those Saturdays. I look forward to them. Because they're really fun. and Are you doing thing things that you wouldn't normally do with your family and Jennifer what about you. Are you a parent yourself or how did you come to be a big sister. I'm I'm not a parent. My interest in big brother. Big sister was looking for a meaningful connection in the community that would be long term and to due to really spend some quality time and learn from somebody else some stuff. What's really great is every time I get together with Jamila? She teaches me something that I didn't. Now how can our listeners. Find out more you can either Google big brothers big sisters and generally it will come up with the website for your community or you can just be be be as a dot org and that's big brothers big sisters of America and you'll you can put in your Zip Code and find the agency that's closest to you. Thank you so much Sharon Tenorio from big brothers big sisters New Mexico and Jennifer Roth a big insister herself and Jamila little sister. Thank you all so much for being on the children's hour today the children's hour is produced by the children's Hour Incorporated a New Mexico nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality kids. It's public radio support provided by listeners. Just like you learn more at children's our dot Org follow us on social media. Yeah we're at T. C. H.. Radio your listening to children's our kids will l. here right which is being as Wichita people from the Santa in a big brand this show. We're not a nine May. Why Wars Oh boy ran In China Dan Bumpy Eight eight Barrow Street walking with your dog. You see me up and Some Catholics Chu said Sir. Please he is off Eh. Uh It's uh-huh GEICO stopping old folks sit outside. Restaurants runs laundromats Schuster among August comes around pretty soon Table Eh Eh. Man You know eh Eh okay. Good yeah the man Take off it nope. Yeah and David Byrne from twenty one release look into the eyeball. That's neighborhood and before that you heard. I wish I had a million and friends coming off of compilation called. I love Tom. t hall songs of the Fox Hollow and that was Elizabeth Cook Cook and Tim Carroll. You're listening to the children's hour and we're thinking about neighborhoods and the places that we live in the people that are in our neighborhoods. We had a chance to go to the state of the city address. Something where our mayor speaks to the city all the population Shen in a big hall about what's going on with the city and it happens once a year and this is a common thing for an administrator to do there were lots of kids activities and lots of kids. We decided to talk to a few of them about what they think makes Albuquerque. Cool and spoiler alert. My guess is is that any kid in any town who really loves their town is going to say some of the same things as the kids here. I say my name is you may aunts. And I'm ten years old and the thing that I think that that's cool about Albuquerque. If you've never met somebody you probably know somebody who has my name's Bo in nine years old and I gencorp Albuquerque. We live in a desert. My name's Max in on five what what's cool about aperture repeat the same thing that Bolton I think no Albuquerque on the desert is cool because there's a lot of animals that really interesting cheetahs. It's hot that's my favorite things. A lot of species that live there all. Aw interesting animals. I'm Sarah Walters and I am twelve years. I think it's the people in the atmosphere. I think it's the loving communities to actually care for the city. I think it's wonderful programs and Places that really make Albuquerque Albuquerque. I really enjoy a lot of places like bio parks museums. I like to go volunteer. Like shelters cheers and Zoo I just I really love it here. I just some kind of feeling in albuquerque. That just it doesn't feel like anywhere else. It just feels like home. It feels like you could just be you you now. Oh what is ooh name. That's good and my neighbor. Well the trees are the grass is how the birdies may their tweet. tweet sal else was good neighbor. That's what's good neighbor. Well the days are hot are cool in the summer we go swimming swimming. Dad's works by. That's what's good in neighbor. That words good in mind neighbor. Then that's what's good in neighbor. Well the car is in the driveway. The letters swag not bad words. Good neighbor and that's what's good in my neighborhood. Yes that's words good in my neighborhood and that's what's good in my neighbor. Now friends come over. Ah Please go to the play grand. Dad's just grade and my neighbor. That's what's good in my neighborhood and bad swabs in by my neighbor. That's what's good in our neighbor. That was good nine. That's what's in man neighbor My neighbor next door sedan. Dan But song time dances on the next door. Her Cat without borough without the just say their tame Baber with bow favor down on pebbles stones. His brother told him they were a animal. And there's a lady who name she says it's wrong. I'll just name say there. They do me a babe with My Day some neighbors pain some of dolls. Hey Ryan four nine. Yeah in some place bands while all the man some turn. Gamblers are saying some pile. Noise complaints came down Mr. They're yeah we're all just say they're cheaper with how big we're all just name. He won't be mine nine to be washed my Oh who are the people I pull in your neighborhood in your neighborhood in your neighborhood. Say who are the people in your neighborhood. The people let you meet each day. Hi there little fella. Hey listen you know who you could be a bike gave you this little hat and a bag to carry over your shoulder. Al Wandering man no not a laundry about Santa Claus. No no no not Santa Claus assert. There's nothing wrong with Santa Claus which I love Christmas but you could be the post post nine. All the Postman always brings dumbbell throw rain or snow or sleet or hail all work and work. The whole today told Gut your ladder safety in college. The Postman is a person in your neighborhood. And your neighborhood and he's in your neighborhood. Postman is a person in your neighborhood person that each day Bosley. What's what's going to a buyer? Hey speaking of fire what fire while. There's no fired all but you know who you can be if I gave you this little shiny red hat. No Not Santa Santa Claus. No no no no no not you could be a fireman fireman hallways. I'll find a man as rain in his in Geneva. Shine the red shirt. Yeah 'cause a fireman news person in your neighborhood. He's in your neighborhood postponing as long as the person in your neighborhood while they're the painful at Jimmy walking down the street there that you may the Baka beyond in the background around and you heard Bob in the anything. Muppets from sesame. Street's platinum all time favorites people in your neighborhood and you heard neighbors abors by the okeydokey brothers from CD call take it outside. What is good in my neighborhood is Zev Haber from a CD called chicken? Scratch coming up after the break. Some Bill Harley. Right here on the children's hour the children's hour is listener supported find out more at children's our dot Dot Org support for this program also provided by Bernallio County New Mexico Burn Co Dot Gov. You're listening to the children's wins our kids radio. We'll be right back. Yeah the talk. Yeah in Ooh out upon the briny. Deep where the wild and wet that winds blow there lived a cruel and evil man. The pirate dirty Jo- He sailed upon the scummy craft had ever left the docks. He roamed the world and seven seas in search of dirty socks. He wore a scratchy scraggly beard. He had but one good eye and with a tattered piece of sale his oily hair. He High I hook for an arm that he found it. Very Handy for picking in between his teeth to get out dicky Ken in his one. Good eye surveyed the seas searching for some ship. And when he's out there he sneer and lick his lips hands on Jack Heat order. There's treasury odd. He'd shake his fist in the air. Laugh like mad. They'd fire cannon crossed the Bow Board the other crafts make the crew take off their shoes and with the horrid laugh. He tied the sailors. There's all uptight and robbed them of their socks. Then left the ship floundering to run up on the rocks. The socks he took from other. Oh ship you'll be surprised to learn. He hung upon the rigging lines they stretched from out of stern flap fluttered in the breeze. Five hundred little flags and the smell that those those socks gave off was enough to make you gag from China to the Ivory Coast Australia up to Spain. The pirate hiring did his dirty work across the bounding main. You can always l Joel. Robbed by looking at the crew for fear was he. He put their eyes and all their tolls were blue till one day. He sailed his ship somewhere near Mandalay. Dan Delay his lookout spied another boat beating. Cross the Bay Saint Joe we'll get that we'll catch you. Nobody's under for sure as I am Dirtyjohn Joan. Their socks there. We are the pirates tiered. Instead their sales to catch up with their prey they sharpened their swords and knives. The boat danced in the spray. A but suddenly. The cheering stopped the wind. It gave a mon for on the other boat. There flu of flag flag of skull and bones and for massed two masked from bow to stern flying everywhere uh dare flapped in snapped five hundred pairs of pilfered underwear. Boxers big boxer small with stripes and POLKA DOTS in tighty. WHITEYS too. Like the ones your GRANDPA's got and lined up on the other deck armed with swords and knives was a site that made them in all shake in fear for their own lives. One hundred. Pirate women waved their daggers in their swords and a woman pirate captain yelled girls. Let's claim it stinks. Someone said Henry Bandinelli Smelly varmints every ECON and takes their undergarments. Then all is lost. Another said we don't have a chance. ooh player that you don't have underpants. Joe Live long so lord last assed out dirty Joe what sort of pirates are you that. That's what I want to know. We'll show them. We'll take their boat. We'll be roared. We'll take their socks and their sneakers acres to throw overboard the pirate there with dirty Jo- screamed and cheered and yell. Someone blew a whistle. Someone rang a bell and as the the boats drew closer still the pirates cursed and muttered while a thousand pair of underwear and socks off flapped and flutter. Finally the two boats met on the ways they rocked. Get them now. Boys joke out. Take off her socks. But even as the men attacked a woman waiting there stinky and call to her crew it was awful battle a loud and raucous fray it i. It seemed thirty. Joe Might Win in his way but then chose I may notice it sticky and his crew all are fighting barefoot. Got No socks or shoes. What's the point? Eight another said. Why make all this fuss? If we can't get their dirty socks what's in it for us. No central don't give now but he spoke the words too late and stinky any enter crew quickly sealed their fate stinky any climbed aboard. She cornered dirty Joe. She said Aw. I want your boxers. Now in case you didn't know dirty Jo- looked up and said before you have your fun your face quite familiar. You remind me of someone stinky any larger story. They appeared at one another the weight. She said I see now. You're joey brother. That's right to Joe. You're my sister and you bounced to be on your knee. Put Down Your sword give this fight. Pray don't do this to me. Stinky gave a smile. A two year came to her. I all her cruella. Don Surprise is never seen her cry. Joey how are you she said you are just fine. Sister Joe said and gave a grin cut set any. That's just great. Her one I shown danced. Now do what I say. You scored I want your underpants. You're my sister. Joe Bluebird any wind Tanto any said. I haven't got the time just because I'm your sister. It doesn't mean I'm pirate job. I want the underwear so dirty jokes surrendered and did what his sister said and when he did it's safe to say more than his face was red stinky still. She roams the seas with her brothers. Boxers high above flapping in the breeze. Dirty Jo- he sailed home close to the Bay of Fundy. He's he's not a buyer anymore because he has no undies. That's that's the Finnish Kale. It's stupid and it's done but there's there's a lesson here I'd impart to everyone if you've got an older sister and I feel bad for you for just as long on. She's alive she'll tell you what to do. The last it. Dan was a mean man. I ever knew dolphin scream and be real mean the whole day through the end frown botch eight nails for lunch. Never and kill her tail that it never to ban was nasty man to understand that Dan was nasty man all day long and very good near try real good make things go wrong. Jump Joy one little boy trabant Paul and the words ever said own lack next managed understand that next and now real interesting thing that I wanted to know about about this year but the most important thing concerns girl things like that now. Nasty Pearl was a nasty girl at met. Dan Somehow she said you like me rotten. Ask Me let's get married now. So the went the did and had a nasty kid and I confessed that Dan pretty much leaves everyone alone now and he doesn't bother anybody anymore. 'cause it just The lives in is a nasty old house with his nasty. Oh wife and his nasty little kid and Asti. Happiness Nasdaq Japan. Dan Man Understan- Heck did collect collected bits of string. He collected dials with broken heads and collected rusty bells. It wouldn't ring pieces out a picture puzzles and bend up nails and ice cream sticks and twists the wires and worn out tires and paper bags and broken bricks and old chip vases and half shoelaces and gatling guns wouldn't shoot. He had a couple of leaky boats wouldn't float and stopped up horns it wouldn't to butter knives. It had no handles copper keys fit no latch. Rings brings it. We're too small small for fingers and dried up. Leaves holy socks worn out belts that had no buckles. Electric Trains had no tracks airplane models and broken bottles and three legged chairs and cups with cracks. Hector the collective. He loved these things with all the soul love them more than shining diamonds love them more than glistening goals. He called all the people come and share my treasure trunk silly sightless people. I looked at it. Call it junk old man Dan. He's Amino man lives inside of a garbage scan and goes humbug. Come homeboy humbug. Humbug gum circus. SEASON ACROBAT GS a high wire. The you see six SAM. He's saying sale this year. Old Siam to go. Aw Back Jones either. Red Go see the wild west star of the Rodeo. Her best friend Tom. Patent Sam and Daniel Danny Amino lives inside scan and go with me. uh-huh uh-huh Oh Man Dan called Joe and back up on cheated garnering drink cactus two zero John. Oh Man Dan he's Amino man he lives inside of a garbage can and goes humbug. Hamburg Hamburg Hamburg. Uh The it as old man. Dan done by Ralph's world from a CD called the amazing adventures of Kid. Astro the four that you heard hector the collector from Cell Silverstone's where the sidewalk ends and before that nasty Dan Johnny cash from his johnny cash children's album the ballot of dirty. Joe Was the story we opened up with. That's a Bill Harley story and that came off of his live CD yes to running. You're listening to the children's Children's hour today show was written and produced by Katie. Don't help them all on the kids crew children's hour was recorded and produced. Is this week at the sunspot solar studios in Albuquerque New Mexico. More information about our shows can be found at children's our dot. Org The children's hour our can be heard all over the country on more than fifty stations in twenty four states. Greening store new listeners on W. I. X. Art in in Rochester New York. WE'RE GONNA go out with one more song where the heart by Joni leads from a CD called. Hold tight shine bright. Oh Look if homes where the heart is you know your heart's with me Whenever we are They're all be Even in even when we're cinema straight to you through a solo giddy with thousands of juices do ever been at Alvin. dissing you follow. I say a hundred Japan's but you're always always always on my mind but will win a melt the miles away and juiced. I could stop your crying snow audrain to hope to keep you smile live way in between even when well plane ride eh Cinema Straight to James Giddy. One thousand kids. It's no every minute I'll be missing you. Oh Oh I I said a hundred times but you're always always always on my mind who won the miles way in just it will give you a thousand kisses living men I'll be missing you Eight hundred times. But you're always on my mind GIDDY thousand gifts. This Avi Missing ooh Say hundred pitcher. He's always always a in the miles away. Just ooh ooh in her. In children's hours produced by the Children's Hour Inc a nonprofit producer based in Albuquerque New Mexico. Learn more about us at children's our dot Org let us know what you think of the show. meow wolf is a proud supporter of the children's hour. The wolf creates immersive. Experiences transporting audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic rooms of story an exploration meow Wolf Dot com support also provided by the county of Bernallio New Mexico. Burn Cow Dot Gov. We also had support from the Infinite Gesture Fund the Albuquerque Community Foundation and from the Living Refoundation. Our theme music was written by C. K Barlow. 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OKC Bombing Retrospective Pt. 4

Parcast Presents

44:57 min | 3 months ago

OKC Bombing Retrospective Pt. 4

"Early one morning a militant terrorist drove down the streets of oklahoma city. He didn't accelerate too fast. Where the explosives in the back of his van. He imagined that if he pulled this off he'd be celebrated as a hero. The man who took down the united states government the would be killer drove to a downtown alley. He parked activated the detonator waited. But he only heard silence. Something had gone wrong. The bomb hadn't exploded later that same morning. Fbi agents arrested the would be terrorist. Jerry drake var now. It was one. Am on august twelfth. Two thousand seventeen the agency had known about voronezh's plot for months he'd wanted to recreate timothy mcveigh's deadly attack from april nineteenth. One thousand nine hundred five but the fbi hadn't let history repeat itself. The agency had learned from their mistakes. In nineteen ninety-five they were more prepared to combat. Far right violent schemes. But the terrorists had learned to and they weren't going down without a fight. Ooh welcome to conspiracy theories a podcast original on corduroy and i'm only brandenburg. Normally we take things story by story conspiracy by conspiracy but for the past three episodes. We've done things differently. We took a deep dive into one devastating moment in us. History the oklahoma city bombing on april nineteenth nineteen ninety-five america's deadliest domestic terrorist attack claimed one hundred and sixty eight lives. Nineteen of whom were children. And it's legacies still shapes policy and rhetoric. Today in the last three episodes we cover the cultural and personal factors that inspired. Timothy mcveigh to detonate a truck bomb at the alfred p murrah building all the events of april nineteenth nineteen ninety five and mcveigh's arrest trial and execution now. We'll explore the legacy of the oklahoma city bombing will look at the conspiracy theories that sprung up around the tragedy and examine. How those claims helped radicalize more terrorists will also explain the steps. Law enforcement takes today to prevent future attacks. We have all that more coming up. Stay with us. This episode is brought to you by moms help. Everyone be their most epic selves. So for mother's day helped mambi her most epic with samsung galaxy. Gifts like smartwatch with next level fitness tracking or the statement making galaxy z. Flip five g that lets mom flex her style. This year celebrate. What makes mom epic with samsung galaxy. This episode is brought to you by casper when it comes to a better night's sleep casper's new cooling collection. Has you covered casper's mattresses with new snow. Technology hyper late sheets lightweight and breathable mattress. Protector are all designed to work together to prevent overheating. And keep you cool and comfortable focus on tomorrow. Let caspar handle the rest. Explore all casper products mattresses sheets pillows an more at casper dot com. This episode is brought to you by snap fish searching for that perfect gift snap. Fish has the answer create customized home decor drink. Wear and more for the ones you love snap. Fish makes it easy degree. Something special and with serious savings including fifty percent off site-wide create your custom gift at snap fish dot com on april nineteenth nineteen ninety-five. The people of alabama city came together. First responders wiped away tears while they searched the rubble for survivors. Reporters captured moments of joyful. Salvation or heartbreaking tragedy. Volunteers and search and rescue dogs flew in from across the country. Emergency blood drives cropped up throughout the city and its suburbs. The junior league of oklahoma city collected toys for the over two hundred children. Food suddenly lost apparent. The scenes would be repeated. Time and time again on september eleventh. Two thousand one at new york city's world trade center it sandy hook elementary school on december fourteenth. Two thousand twelve at a two thousand seventeen country music festival in las vegas. They were a communal expression of public grief. A deep wound that scarred an entire community but april nineteenth nineteen ninety-five was different. The oklahoma city bombing was the worst domestic terrorist attack on united states soil previously. A disaster on this scale had been unthinkable. The survivors were on their own figuring out how to adapt to their new normal. They became more cooperative. Perhaps because residents felt united against their attacker in the summer and fall of nineteen ninety-five oklahoma city's divorce rates foul and nine months. After the blast the birth rate went up but there were negative consequences as well alcohol tobacco consumption doubled citywide post traumatic stress syndrome cases spiked in remained elevated over full year after the bombing. One in four survivors still had ptsd symptoms nearly two decades later. Psychologists use the tragedy to explore the conditions long term impacts and improved methods for treatment. In the meantime locals grappled with the more immediate questions like how to move on from the death of a loved one. Sally farrell lost her thirty seven year. Old daughter susan in the attack. Susan was an avid gardener. And a lawyer for native american housing with the us housing and urban development agency which had offices in the alfred p murrah building after susan's death. Sally forced herself to visit her daughter's empty house. Memories overwhelmed her as she walked through familiar. Hallways and rooms when she found a packet of morning glory seeds. She realized the perfect way to honor her daughter. She sent the seats to all of susan's friends and family members urging them to plant morning glories in their yards and gardens later sally realized morning. Glories were a creeping invasive species they spread down residential blocks and cropped up in neighbors yards the people who planted them couldn't keep them in check. At least a small part of seasons legacy would never die but for janey. Coverdale it wasn't enough to mourn and move on her two and five year. old grandsons. Died when mcveigh's bomb tore apart their daycare and she wanted the terrorist to pay in the months after the bombing. Coverdale went on a press tour. She demanded a swift death penalty for mcvay and his collaborators. She campaigned for a truncated appeals process. So he couldn't wiggle out of his sentence in an interview with usa today. she explained. I was so angry. I wanted him to know that. I wanted to sit and watch him die. I wanted him to live in agony like we did other victims family members. Long for mcveigh's execution like bud. Welsh is twenty three year. Old daughter died in the mirror. Social security offices welsh obsessed over mcveigh. He feared the terrorist might be found innocent or get a light sentence. Welsh wanted him dead. But his weeks passed after the bombing welches rage sputtered into heartache. You remembered that. His daughter had opposed the death penalty. He couldn't seek revenge against mcveigh and still honor. Her legacy welsh sank into a deep depression smoking and drinking to excess but about nine months after the attack in january eighteen ninety six he visited the blast site while he looked at the empty log where his daughter had died. Something clicked into place. He found a new purpose in life. He became an anti death. Penalty advocate for months. Welsh gave speeches across the country. About convicts rights. Even the rights of killers like mcveigh. He liked to imagine that his daughter lived on through his activism by janey. Coverdale was still making the rounds to in june nineteen ninety seven. Her hard work paid off. When mcveigh was sentenced to death next. Coverdale advocated mcveigh's execution to be broadcast. She claims she and other survivors needed the closure. Her advocacy was controversial. Mcveigh's attorney steven. Jones condemned the proposed broadcast. He told reporters with usa. Today it would be an act of barbarism like hanging people in the town square. Surprisingly mcveigh was in favor of the transmission. Perhaps he hoped he'd earned sympathy for his cause of the world witnessed his death in real time. This was probably the only timing they. Any coverdale shared a goal. Although their motives differed efforts like coverdale's helped set the narrative around the death penalty in one. Thousand nine hundred. Six congress passed the antiterrorism and effective death penalty. Act or a dp a it made it harder for death. Row inmates. To overturn tear related. Verdicts the adp. A made two changes to the appeals process. I it imposed a time limit. Death row inmates only had a year to file an appeal. Second it put a limit on. How many appeals a person could file for procedural issues like evidence gathering or jury bias. So if you're wrongfully convicted and you can't assemble evidence in time or if you hit your appeals cap and find out later there were other issues. You could've contested. you're out of luck. Legal analyst andrew cohen argued that the adp made it too easy for states. To shutdown valid appeals it increased the likelihood that innocent people would be wrongfully executed for example in nineteen ninety seven. Floyd perkins was convicted of murder. He gathered evidence that suggested he was innocent but didn't file an appeal until two thousand eight well after the adp as deadline. The law prevented him from proving his innocence. Perkins took his case all the way to the supreme court's insecure and exception but the agency. Dpa still stands today and it might prevent innocent people from turning their unjust sentences. Timothy mcveigh wanted to strike a blow against the federal government but instead his terrorism helped the government expand its power over the criminal justice system and today private citizens pay the price. But that's not the only legacy mcvay left thanks to a spate of conspiracy. Theories is also an inspiration to a new generation of right wing terrorists. Extremists were willing to kill in mcveigh's up next. We'll explore some conspiracy theories and determine if mcveigh was brainwashed. It's chilling of one girl who suddenly goes missing and another girl who mysteriously takes over her life from executive producer. Jessica biel comes the new psychological thriller that will have you obsessed the free form original series cruel summer. Kate wallace is the girl everybody idolized until she vanishes a trace turner turner's the girl. Nobody noticed who steals her life taking her best friends her boyfriend. Everything becoming the new kate wallace told over three years in one thousand nine hundred. Nineteen ninety-four in nineteen ninety-five shown from each girl's perspective and alternating episodes cruel. Summer will leave you torn between who to believe in what the truth even looks like the deeper you go into the mystery behind the disappearance of kate wallis. The more secrets you uncover. The more lies are exposed and the darker it gets in this twisted tale. The truth is how you see it. Free forms cruel summer now streaming on hulu. This episode is brought to you by michelob or get seltzer crisp. Cool with natural fruit. Flavors michelob ultra. Organic seltzer strives for realness. It's usda certified organic with no sugar no carbs and only eighty calories so the only thing touching your taste. buds is ganic refreshing and delicious michelob. Ultra organic seltzer as real as it tastes now back to the story plenty april nineteenth nineteen ninety five right wing terrorist. Timothy mcveigh killed one. Hundred sixty eight people and left countless more reeling in grief survivors scrambled to make sense of the tragedy. Some turn to community organizing political activism others scoured police reports security footage in news stories for any loss details of that tragic day in the amateur sleuths discovered some alarming inconsistencies local and federal investigators alike had made major misteps during the investigation of the bombing. And the first mistake cost a hundred and sixty eight lives in november nineteen ninety-four an informant offered a tip to the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms or atf. They said that white supremacists plan to bomb a federal building in tulsa or oklahoma city on april nineteenth. The atf past the tip belong to the fbi and they ignored it officialese. This was because the fbi acted with an abundance of caution just a few years. Prior the bungled their responses to ruby ridge and waco. Both standoffs escalated to bloodshed after federal officials. Got involved this time around the f. b. i didn't want to run into oklahoma city with guns blazing especially if the atf was already acting on the temp unfortunately the atf felt the same way so nobody investigated until it was too late and after the bombing the fbi mismanaged the manhunt for mcvay and his collaborators on august tenth nineteen ninety five and oklahoma city grand jury indicted the conspirators in the bombing. Mcveigh terry nichols and quote others. Unknown others unknown referred to at least one individual may be several people who were still unidentified in the summer of nineteen ninety-five in the immediate aftermath of the bombing. The fbi spoke to witnesses and determine that two men were involved in the crime. They were called john doe number one and john doe number two presumably these john does. Were mcveigh and terry nichols but the guardians. Andrew gumbel argued that mcveigh didn't fit the description of either suspect that means that both of the john does must have been other accomplices and this second unidentified partner john doe number two is still at large. In addition several eye witnesses. Saw mcveigh meet with at least one. Other man on the day of the explosion a man who has never been identified. It's possible that this man was another accomplice who escaped justice. According to some conspiracy theories. John doe number two was never found because federal agents didn't want him to be found. They helped him get away as part of a cover up to justify the stance theorists point to inconsistencies. In terry nichols arrest researcher and writer. Charles p blair explained that typically agencies investigate and monitor suspects with ties to militant communities before they make an arrest once they identified nichols as a person of interest. The fbi should have tailed him. Surveilled is noted. He made contact with allowed collaborators to reveal themselves instead the f. b. immediately searched his michigan farm. They let them media. Share nichols name and picture. None of this brought them any closer to nichols who was in kansas. But it almost certainly spooked his conspirators and insured. They'd escape before. Investigators even finished gathering evidence in addition controversy. Surrounded mcveigh's other collaborator. Michael fortier michael knew about mcveigh's plans nine months before the oklahoma city bombing. His wife lori helped mcveigh create fake. Id he used to rent the ryder truck that transported the bomb when fbi agents questioned the forty years. They refuse to cooperate even as michael brag to his friends that he planned to sell his story to book publishers and movie producers even in the face of their obvious guilt lori was never charged with any crimes. Michael plea bargained for a brief twelve year prison sentence. After his release the fortier family vanished into the witness protection program today. No one but their handlers knows what became of them which means no one can ask them to set the record straight today. Even mcveigh's trial and execution were contentious as we discussed in our last episode the produce thousands of documents related to mcvay in may two thousand one. They never shown anyone this evidence before and mcvay never had the chance to defend himself against in court. It seems as if the fbi didn't want the public to know the truth about the oklahoma city bombing conspiracy theorists point to the botched investigations as evidence that the bombing was all part of a larger government plan. But remember hamlin's razor a pity sing. That can be summed up as don't attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence in denial that the atf and the f. b. i. Mismanaged the situation but all the errors may have been that mismanagement and ignored tip a rushed investigation a generous plea bargain. We can blame the officials for their bad decision making but it doesn't mean there were all in on it together either way conspiracy. Theories continued to spread one theory even suggested that mcveigh was an unwilling participant in a secret mind control experiments allegedly federal agents possibly from the cia brainwashed mcveigh and then forced him to bomb the alfred p or a building the reason far right separatist groups were flourishing. According to this theory they pose too much of a threat to the powers that be so federal agents forced and anti-government activists to commit a horrifying crime to discredit the movement. Another rumor said that attorney. General janet reno masterminded the attack to drum up support for gun control. Legislation reno championed waiting periods and assault weapon bans and gun enthusiasts assumed her next step was to seize all private arms similarly a recent facebook memes. First lady hillary clinton arranged the bombing. The goal was to destroy evidence that implicated her in the whitewater scandal afterward. Her associates framed mcveigh the allegations varied. But they all share a few common features. They asserted that timothy mcveigh wasn't really to blame. He was a patsy. Set up to take the fall for the real culprit. The federal government. These theories were a boon to far-right recruitment. They gave the community away to publicly embrace and celebrate. Timothy mcveigh without. Overtly endorsing the bombing. That included william pierce who authored. The turner diaries peer straddle the delicate line between honoring and decrying the bomber. He said quote terrorism is nasty business but the terrorism will be seeing. The future will be a protest against the government's destruction of america. It's shocking that anyone would want to associate themselves with mcveigh. Even those who agreed with his ideology in the late ninety s he was one of the most despised figures in the united states before his execution. A gallup poll said one percent of americans believe mcveigh should be put to death. Twenty three percent of people in this camp typically objected to the death penalty rick bragg of the new york times added. Mr mcveigh was still seen as a monster. Who brutally murdered old people babies mothers and fathers. He's still seeing as a perversion. Still regarded as a sick and distorted version of what an american soldier is supposed to be but that displeasure. An outrage made mcvay. Appealing to extremists. He believed he was a victim of government. Oppression just like randy weaver. From ruby ridge in the branch davidians at waco conspiracy theorists suggested that was literally true mcveigh was a martyr and his arrest and conviction were grave injustices by claiming that he didn't really orchestrate the oklahoma city bombing far right groups could reframe the perpetrator a victim and mcveigh's actions didn't just embolden far-right terrorists. His rhetoric spread through mainstream political debates. Has we discussed in. the past. Episodes mcveigh was a firearm fanatic. He attended rallies in shows after the bombing he claimed that the turner diaries pro rifle messaging had him initially. These beliefs were a pr disaster for the national rifle association and other pro gun lobbies. They didn't want to be associated with domestic terrorism. So in their struggle to rebrand they drew boundaries between mcveigh's ideology and his actions just like the conspiracy theorists and right wing extremists. These groups tried to say that the terror attack was wrong but it's motives were right and in late april nineteen ninety-five public approval for gun control. Wind down larry pratt. President of the gun owners of america told the christian science monitor the thought the oklahoma city bombing would serve as a wakeup call to arms enthusiasts. Even if they disagreed with mcveigh's actions they'd still be roused to fight for their second amendment rights and has predicted the noisy pro-gun outcry led to loosened regulations in nineteen ninety six. The dickey amendment passed cutting funding for cdc research into gun violence prevention in two thousand and four the brady bill expired which had required background checks and five day waiting period. When purchasing firearms congress voted not to renew the act. The national rifle association loudly championed that changes. They released statements saying that guns were the only tools. Private citizens had to keep an oppressive government at bay. Just like mcveigh had said. By the two thousand ten's gun rights had made their way onto the political main stage in two thousand fifteen senator and presidential candidate. Ted cruz said the second amendment to the constitution is a constitutional right to serve as the ultimate check against government tyranny for the protection of liberty. Another presidential candidate. Ben carson declared as a surgeon. I spent many a night operating on people with gunshot wounds to their heads and all of that is horrible. But i can tell you something. It is not nearly as horrible as having a population that is defenseless against a group of tyrants. These men weren't extremists. They weren't fringe separatists. They were mainstream politicians speaking to crowds of thousands. They may not have even realized that the rhetoric they were using was almost identical to the words of the oklahoma city bomber. Even as the world condemned timothy mcveigh's means it embraced his ideas and that led to even more violence up next will examine the state of domestic terrorism. Today this episode is brought to you by samsung. Moms help everyone be their most epic excels so for mother's day helped mambi her most epic with samsung galaxy gifts like their most advanced smartphone camera. So mom can take photos. Like a pro a smartwatch. With next level fitness tracking samsung's best earbuds yet to help block out and turn up or the statement making galaxies the flip five g less mom flex her style this year. Celebrate what makes mom epic with samsung galaxy. This is brought to you by. Nissan nissan gives. You deserve car. That thrills you so they have to ask. Does your car thrill you when you start your engine. Does it start something in. 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I s there a nonprofit think tank that tracks terrorist attacks in the united states and identifies trends the c. s. i. s. categorizes political violence into four categories. Right wing left wing. Religious and ethnic nationalist timothy mcveigh qualified as a right wing terrorist since two thousand one right wing. Terrorists have actually been responsible for roughly seventy three percent of all deadly extremist attacks in the united states going back even further from nineteen ninety four to two thousand nineteen right wing. Terrorists killed at least three hundred and thirty five people in the united states. They were responsible for the nineteen ninety-six bombing the olympic games in atlanta georgia. Eric rudolph detonated the explosive and several others over the next. Two years has part of violent anti-abortion in anti-government demonstration in september two thousand. Four officials arrested stephen par for plotting to blow up a downtown milwaukee building with a truck bomb. He claimed he wanted to be the next. Timothy mcveigh in january. Two thousand eleven. Kevin harper unplanted a pipe bomb in spokane washington. He meant to detonated a parade route on. Martin luther king junior day what. The explosive never went off. He was arrested and sentenced to thirty two years in prison. These kinds of attacks spiked in two thousand sixteen at the time. It was the deadliest year for right wing. Terrorism since nineteen ninety five the surge coincided with the us presidential election according to the pew research center the two thousand sixteen campaign was one of the most divisive in recent memory. Roughly half of all republicans and democrats reported that they were afraid of the other party and of course when some people are afraid they lash out in violence right wing. Terrorist attacks became even more frequent in two thousand seventeen with fifty three incidents that year. The csi s noted that left wing terrorism also increased in two thousand sixteen and religiously motivated attacks were more frequent than average in two thousand eighteen and two thousand nineteen csis. The deadliest killers were radicalized through their online activity. Many far right terrorists weren't affiliated with a specific extremist cell. They were lone. Wolves usually the formed their ideology after reading incendiary blog. Posts message boards and online manifestos. They researched targets and learn to make weapons through youtube tutorials in google searches the chatted with like minded people on twitter and four chan but never met in person. They were fully indoctrinated without ever setting foot at a rally or compound recruiters knew how powerful the internet was. They could accomplish things online. They'd never manage in real life. Public demonstrations attracted police counter protesters and bad pr. But a carefully. Worded tweet or reddit post could reach an audience without the inconvenient pushback. Social media algorithms exacerbate the issue they deliver content a user agrees with while muting descent creating a hateful echo chamber digital setting where violence is normalized in criticism is easy to ignore these kinds of message. Boards might sound unpleasant but hey based communities can be incredibly attractive to disaffected people with nowhere else to go sociologist. Kathleen blee noted that many people joined far-right groups because the offer of feeling of camaraderie and acceptance. The rhetoric is almost always secondary to the sense of belonging. These groups offer their members. In addition hit groups offers simple solutions to complicated questions issues of race sexuality class gender are multifaceted and to understand even experts. Don't know how to fix structural inequality but white supremacy offers convenient scapegoats for people who buy into the ideology a new york times op-ed profiled a woman named carina ohlsson who joined online far-right communities because she was lonely and wanted to connect with other people. Initially she didn't hate minorities or have strong opinions about race. But after being welcomed on websites like storm front she became radicalized. She began printing and disseminating anti semitic literature. She ran a portland. Based chapter of a hate group she led meetings while wearing a nazi uniform. Eventually olsen became uncomfortable with their own rhetoric. Several right wing individuals committed. Heavily publicized acts of terror and olsen had never wanted anyone to get hurt. Once she left the movement olson's believe seemingly changed again she claimed to support movements like black lives matter but the shift in ideology only came after she lost the social ties that had banter to white supremacy. The world is full of men and women like olsen. Unfortunately they don't all move on in the band in their hate some on the become more embedded in the culture until they're inspired violence to illustrate. How all these factors come together. Let's imagine a seemingly non-threatening citizen. We'll call him bill. He isn't very political. He might think his taxes are too high or feel unduly suspicious of people of color he enjoy hunting or target shooting and worry about restrictions on his hobbies. But he's not yet an extremist. If you're lonely you might seek out. Connections on social media and message. boards naturally gravitate to people who share his political beliefs. Then he reads an article or watches a youtube video about the oklahoma city bombing and mcveigh's motives and ideology resonate with bill. He realizes that he's not alone in his beliefs. There's a whole community out there. That would welcome him and his opinions with open arms but bills ready to commit. He's uncomfortable with violence and doesn't want to associate with a group of terrorists but white supremacist. Separatist groups released statements saying. They're not actually dangerous. They explained that mcveigh wasn't really at fault. It was all a government cover up in. Bill likes that idea. It means he can connect with his peers without violating his morals. And once he identifies with the movement. Bill becomes more radicalized. He loses contact with his few moderate friends who object who is extreme opinions soon. He only talked to the people in his online community. Everyone says he has to kill for his beliefs since bill never. Here's dissenting opinions their recommendations sound reasonable so he lashes out with a deadly attack. Bill story plays out time and time again and it's sadly becoming more common. The csis scorns that twenty twenty might bring a spike in terrorist activity. The identify three factors that increase. The risk i the covid nineteen pandemic became a shockingly politicized issue in the spring and summer of twenty twenty conspiracy theories spread online implying that the viruses risks were overstated. Some americans feared that mandatory mask. Policies were government overreach. Which would lead down a slippery slope toward tyranny. In addition global sheltered home policies left many people out of work unemployment rates skyrocketed doctor sherry hamby of the psychology of violence journal noted that people are more likely to break the law when they have idle time and breaks from their routines crime rates. Go up on weekends and holidays and perhaps when more than three hundred million. Americans shelter in place indefinitely. Their frustrations will boil over into violence. Second twenty twenty is once again an election year regardless of who wins the white house their opponents may be spurred to action when they lose the ballot in third terrorist attacks often spark copycats in radicalize otherwise nonviolent political extremists mcvay inspired a generation of guerilla rebels. The past. Four years of bloodshed will likely motivate even more but mass killings aren't inevitable simon clarke an anti-racist advocate and senior fellow with the center for american progress laid out the steps authorities could take to stop right wing violence. The first step is to gather data and analyze trends. This may require the authorities to cooperate with foreign leaders. Many far right groups collaborate across national borders in and investigators need to do the same to stop them. In addition authorities need to identify rhetoric. That radicalize is non. Violent people into extremism. This is especially true with online discourse which seduces so many private platforms like youtube. Twitter and facebook can help tamp down on hate speech without violating first amendment. They currently all have anti-hate policies which aren't consistently enforced. Finally federal officials should ensure that law enforcement has the resources it needs to crack down on domestic terrorism just like they offered the funding and tools to fight international terrorism after september eleventh. Two thousand one. These steps won't keep americans one hundred percent safe. Nothing can but perhaps they can turn the tide of hate in the face of institutional indifference peacekeepers have to find creative ways to combat hate. New mexico adopted an unprecedented strategy. In the summer of twenty twenty right wing militants calling themselves the new mexico civil guard fired on peaceful anti-racist protests in response the bernallio county district attorney sued them. he argued that by wearing uniforms. Running militaristic drills and carrying weapons. The civil guard was guilty of impersonating police officers. The civil suit couldn't force the group to disband but perhaps it could bankrupt and in a facebook post. The militia argued that the government was violating their civil rights and trying to shut down to sent the. Da's office fired back that the new mexico civil guard infringed on the peaceful protesters rights by shooting at them. As of this recording the state suit against the militia is still pending. Only time will tell whether the charges will stand and how similar groups will respond. Perhaps this will become another flashpoint in the battle against militancy another ruby ridge waco or oklahoma city but maybe the state of new mexico has found a way to prevent extremists from following in timothy. Mcveigh's footsteps mcveigh blew up. The alfred p murrah building because he believed he'd be celebrated as a freedom fighter. Only half right citizens never rallied to overthrow the government but he did become a hero in a martyr to a community of extremists with thoughtful policies and education. We can combat the narrative to advance. We can change his legacy to that of a despised criminal. We can strike a blow against intolerance and violence once and for all. Thanks for tuning into conspiracy theories. We'll be back monday with a new episode. You can find all episodes of conspiracy theories and all other park cast originals for free on spotify. Not only does spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy. 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Mother Goose

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Mother Goose

"Thank you to our patriotic listeners. If you haven't yet become a Patriot supporter go to patriotdepot dot com slash. The children's hour on goedluck goals key. I'm Silver Lock Silky. I'm a brass lock. I'm a brass key lead headlock. He Madan Lock. I am a dengue. He is time for initials news hour from South Valley Library and and now for a silly little song about our big silly dog One day role data data Pumpkin by mistake I gave him a tummy ache at one day. Rowley Data Pumpkin pie rolled data torty and one night tortillas in game this constant patient one day data trae Dis and one role in data era Pumpkin He's and if you are what you eat. Then you're not spending one day. You're all in data bars data bar bulls. It wasn't trouble at one day. Role and data Barrasso Chris. Oh data trae at tortillas and Sunday Pumpkin Pie One day wrong data. Jerry Jerry. He's got one now one day to Jerry Data bars and owned data trae tortillas end. Everybody now one Band Aid Palm -Ken Pie and the screen door and the dish rag and some aqui slimy lardy stuff does and some library books in the librarians. Were not happy and my son's homework. Mary de Right. We're on the children's hour. We'll hello. This is the children's hour we are at the South Valley Library here in Albuquerque New Mexico. Oh and he got a whole crew here Hikaru well. Let's start over here. I am Katie Stone. Pleasure to be here with you. Hello Lewin's Zen. Hello Hello Hi. It's Isaac Hayes Lucas. Hello it's FANEUIL will. Hello everyone one here. We are at the library bottom books Galore all around us and today we're spending the show doing a very very special topic with our friends. Mary Dean they come from El Moro New Mexico. Can we have a little round of applause for these people who came the bar to be on our show. We're so happy that they're here with us today. And we are covering a very special topic of very special special goose any ideas. The mother of all grosses mother goose mother. Goose use some of US think of mother goose's sort of baby stories. Oh for the babies but do you know. There's a lot of wisdom and mother goose use and there's a lot of history mother goose and we're going to learn more about that today on the show. Plus we're going to do a lot more mother Goosey kind of things. Did you get a lot of mother. Goosey things told to you poems and stories when you were really little. Yeah kind I know kind of hey diddle diddle that kind of thing oh Yeah well there's a lot to know but let's say hello to our or band really quick. Can you introduce yourselves Mary Dean. Hello my name is Melissa and I play Bass Guitar and keyboard I am Jason Jason Catering and I play guitar and I played drums with my feet drums with your feet. Let's hear that let's describe. What are you playing on your playing on? What is what I love is cinder? Have I have this first thing at our house. It's called the junk pile and I found all these parts and I created this thing that I can. I can play with my feet. And I put microphones phones in it so you can hear it. That is super cool. I am really digging your foot action there. Well we'd like to hear more from you all Mary Dean here on the Children's hour but before we go back to you guys. I wanted to let everyone know a little bit more about mother. Goose any idea. Who Do you think mother goose was? I used to think that mother goose was a goose with the hat. Yeah a lot of the pictures. Show mother goose that way. Who did you think mother other goose was? I think that mother goose was a woman that loved poetry. Seems like it so it turns out mother mother. Goose rhymes and stories and poetry. That we're so familiar with today. Go Way Way way back to be for the time of even written stories we do know that by the sixteen twenty s in France. The idea of Mother Goose Story was so popular that you could just refer to something as oh. It's like a mother goose story and we know that because something in the sixteen twenty s Actually said that in a magazine and then there's some false stories about mother goose that circulate around the world. A false story about mother. Goose is that she was named after a Bostonian woman who had sixteen children. Ten of whom were her husband's kids when they got married and that her married name. I'm was Elizabeth Foster Goose and we know that when she died in sixteen ninety some people said she was the original mother goose but what the actual first time mother goose stories were published. Were in France and they were much earlier than that and they were in French sh and we know that the stories of mother goose go back even earlier than that to the thirteen hundreds and the fourteen hundreds and we think that the stories of mother goose which were first published in France by Charles Perrault with the subtitle of tales of my mother. Goose they were using folk stories that were common during the early times to teach people children both how to speak English and French or whatever language as well as some certain folk lessons that are in there. So we're going to learn a lot more about mother goose today. Say the term mother goose's totally interchangeable with the concept of a nursery rhyme and some nursery rhymes. Go back hundreds of years. There's way early like the twelve hundreds. Have you ever heard this little poem. Thirty Days Hath September April. Oh June and India remember. You've heard that yes very much so that goes back to a French poem from the twelve. Hundreds wow and clearly it was designed to teach people about the days of the month and the months of the year and so I was just curious given favorite nursery syringes that you are ever taught said when you were a little kid I really liked the hey diddle diddle me too me you too I. I really liked a lot of the mother. We're going to hear a lot more of the mother goose so we hear more from our band. Can we have a little encouragement for our band. This is Mary Mary. Hey diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle the the cow jumped over the little laughed to see such a sport and the dish ran away at the speed. Uh Johnny In two seasons and the dish ran web Nina uh-huh You Know God In late in the season in Latin. Take a Mary Dean I'm from El Moro New Mexico right here. On the children's hour the man in the Wilderness. The man in the Wilderness asked me how many strawberries grew in the seat. I asked him as I thought. Good as many red herrings grow in the wood goods Daniel I love it. I love it and now for a little song for people who love cats and people who don't love cats for the same reason uh The cats the cats obeying the cats the cats are the cats are begging for food. Food cats a begging for food food. Cats cats cats bagging and the cats. The cats the cats. The cats are bank. The cats are picking gartside. The cats are inside the cats gets gets like do bake read cads ads on ever gets like do. Bank shits making grabbed him The cats the cats the the cats the cats the cancer pain gone inside the cancer. CATS EH the cats. The cats cats the cat's banking the cans are bringing what mood. Cats are terribly brewed. Ruled against the big cats like to their rain much. Let's do bake applied the cats. They do cats the cats big you. The cats the cats the KANZA inside cats are making to come inside the cats. The cats cats begging come inside not something. That's terribly ruled ruled against against against against against against against Ganzi. are in Cannes. ooh you mean The three little kittens. They lost their mittens and they began to cry mother. Dear we sadly fear that we bost mittens. What's lost your mittens? You Naughty kittens than you shall have no pied then you shall have no pie. The three little kittens. They found her mittens and they began to cry. Mother dear see see here see here for. We have found our mittens. Put on your mittens you silly kittens and you shall have some pie or power her. Oh let us have some by then. The three little kittens put on their mittens and soon eight up the PIE. O Mother Dear. We greatly greatly fear that we have soiled are mittens. What's soiled your mittens? You Naughty Kittens then they began to sigh. Why and then may began to cy? The three little kittens. They washed their mittens and and hung them out to dry. Oh mother dear. Do you not hear that. We have watched our mitten. What's washed ask your mittens? Then you're good kitchens. But I smell a rat close by wease rats close by Children's hour is listener listener supported kids public radio produced by the Children's Hour Inc a nonprofit dedicated to producing high quality kids public radio. Learn more at children's our dot Org meow Wolf is a proud supporter of the children's hour. meow of creates immersive experiences that transport audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic realms of story and exploration learn more at me out Wolf Dot Com. You you are listening to our kids will be right uh-huh Mary Dean live at the library with a nice crowd. Here's the South Valley Library in Albuquerque. New You make. We're doing a show today. All about mother goose stick with us. This miss feet from a CD call rap Rythm and rhymes in fact help us eight month. That laid in a hostage Jack built this is the tapped eighth Amok Ben Laden hostage Jack. Bill this is the dog gets worthy Catholic Rep that Nathan Moss and laid laid in a house that laid hostage J.. This is the cow hornbeck softer dog and the cat that killed the eighth among the lead in a hostage often the burn off all that milk the cow off the dog that ate the Moss that lays in the house that late in the House that laid in a hostage yet. This is the man are headed in toward that kiss. The may no longer milk the cow. That's off the dog. Get word that killed eight the most that late in the house. Bill Sir Check the house bill. The house check this is a piece off saving ensure that the man Ted folks of Cow Horn that talk. The dog gets worse that killed the mosque late in the house. That late in the House late in the House that Jack built this is the cocktail crowed road in saving that kids the making known for the theft off the dog that killed the eight. Th that stayed in the house take the corn. That kept the Cossack Road in the pre-start Shave ensuring that mayor the man our Ted torn that kiss the mate. No forlorn milk the cow with Crop Horn. That talks the dog that word. The cat that killed Iraq. Read that eight that late in the house that lady that played in hospital Jack Jack Bet laid in late in the deal house now In the House the Jack built done by miss as we from a CD call rap rhymes mother goose on the loose. You are tuned to the children's hour. We're here at the South Valley Library. There's a whole lot of people here. Hi Everybody Hello so delighted that we have the youth services librarian with us. Hello Manuel Garcia. Hello thank you for inviting me. I appreciate it. Well you know we invited you to come on because you do something very special at the South Library here in Albuquerque. That really. I've I've never heard of anywhere else in any other library. Can you talk a little bit about your sensory friendly adult hours. Sure absolutely yes. It is one of one of the few programs across the nation. I've found very little programs out there to emulate so thankfully with my educational background ground. I was able to take that knowledge and build what we have here at the library. So we have is a sensory our for adults but we are inclusive in doing by everyone we have branches that are specifically for children. They come in and we have a story time with them and we also built with it arts and crafts after activity for them on the days that we don't have sensory story for them. We do have legos and we offer each week coloring for them at some of our other branches they they also offer by appointment. They'll open up about thirty minutes early and invite the children without any other patrons other than the patrons with some special needs or special special services. What drove you to do this kind of thing while we're always a that's a great question? We're always looking for innovative and new ways to be inclusive and also to get more programming in the library system so they were kicking around the idea of having a sensory storytime. We fortunately have clientele built into our area. We have Patrons from Andy's farm also appaloosas which are two programs that deal with adults with special needs and they were already visiting our branch so why not build on what we already have. That's what we did when you do something that sensory friendly what's different about it than any other time. So the biggest difference is that they're allowed allowed to make whatever disturbances that they need they're also able to Come into an environment. That's very low stimulant like for example. You can't see this. We we have a lot of lighting in here unfortunately so dim the lights or turn them off completely way the noise and the buzzing of the fluorescent light to disrupt them we also have an area specifically for them. which is our community room? And we'll set up programs in there so that they're not having to deal with a large environment it's really defined. That's really neat. I just want to thank you for doing that. That's quite a service people in our community one question over here. Yeah what's your favorite part of doing in what you do here. Having the patrons come in and just seeing the smell into basins to participate just like everyone else I love it Maga Sia. Thank you so much for being with the Tobin all the seas were one see if all the seas were one see what a great see that would be and if all the trees were one tree what a gate great. Trina that would be and if all the accents were one asks what a great acts that would be in all the men who were one man. What a great man he would be? And if the great man took the great axe cut down the great and let it fall into the great see. What a splash rash among the sea in the bottom of the sea? There's a there's a whole there's a hole in the bottom of the sea. There's a lot in the hole His Alarm Nevada. There's a aw Jesus bound Run in the bottom on the on the bottom of the Z.. On the log in the This on the on the on the log in the bottom of the sea on the bottom as apply the dog in the hall in the bottom of the sea a wing on the log and all this waiting being on the fly on the frog log wing wing of the by the bump on the log in the the fire on the log in on the wing on the fly on the Braga logging the On the wing on the on the on the dog and the hall in the bottom of the sea. There's a there's a there's a Leon no talking on the frog on the on the law in the hole in the bottom of the Mary Dean live at the library. Here in the South Valley of Albuquerque New Mexico Mary deed and I know your names are really Melissa. Jason but I like calling you bury Dean I mean frankly it's okay right okay. I made called worse. You are from a place called El Moro new New Mexico. Can you describe what it's like in El Moro first of all where is it. And what's it like out there. Well we live in the area of the Omoro National Monument humint which is on highway. Fifty three are houses about seventy miles from either Gallup or grants so for people listening around the country you are far. Flung from a far-flung village is far flung highway basically. We don't really live on a road if that's what you're asking you have the mountains in the in the mud and the dust you helicopter into your house. We still use it for real driving. I see out there in El Moro. It's kind of an interesting place at last week. And we did a program about earthquakes wchs in volcanoes and you all have an El Moro a lot of volcanic runoff to hardened dried lava from volcanoes from many thousands and millions of years ago. Can you describe what it's like. Well we live in a pristine wilderness mostly and there's volcanic rock everywhere. This now pie black rock. It just bubbles up out of the ground. It's very porous. I've never seen anything like it except for except for there. I'm sure it is other places but it is very much a a volcanic area you can see. Remnants of volcanic activity flows flows out. There you can see massive flows of smell P- Iraq. Yeah and the mouse Iraq. It looks like it looks like volcanic rock. It looks like if you were on the moon wound but the moon was all black because it's black rock and it's very shark in you can cut yourself on that rock but still you can in hiking there and see lava tubes that you can actually crawl into. It's a pretty special part of the country. Yeah well thank you for coming all the way to town town for us on the children's hour we know you have more songs coming up. And what do you have next. Well we're going to do a jazzed up. Version of doodle doodle dumpling. And I would like to say thank you to you. Katie for hosting US this week. It's a pleasure. Thanks for being here. You're tuned to the children's hour where kids public radio and today or at a library. Uh The dom you win Uh Shoe This show is made possible. Thanks to the generous support. Awards from the county of Bernallio Burn Co Dot Gov and thanks to listeners. Just like you in the children's our kids public radio The it did but I did my lunch orange. ooh Don John John Announce black was gone. Says all the men had ED scrambled eggs again. Someone passed the sauce out when lunatic pain took Mrs. This is the lay lay eh serves are right for laying eggs in the kitchen. I saw a UH live. And he gun show. But that's the way to treat her linking among didn't go get still get all my lunch. This is aw God when the that better perform is used finds out. Who is all the Jack and Jill climbed up up to Bej of Pale? Jack del down and you and Dan God hits added Sorry Jack Finders keepers it will. I miss to get all collage. Yeah Yeah on the other in other it when mother goose laid an egg is the title track from Mike Menards CD and you are tuned to the children's hour. We are broadcasting from the South Valley. Library got a sweet little audience. High audience got a great crew. And we've got this awesome band next to us here on stage. Mary Dean Gene. Feel free to sing along. We're going to the zoo do tomorrow. We look talk about you you you looking on to you. See The elephant on great big swinging going in a weekend lagaan Zu Zu zu about you you get to into the sea. Monkeys jumping all around and switched great fat hanging by the long tails rich. Talk about him and do too soon. The black bear up the go-to heavy and don't get to go to. How do you to to to to stay all day getting sleepy? Sit Getting Sleep Home Moratti Moratti. Sleep sleep sleep because we had Zoo The zoo zoom zoom. How you came to mm-hmm to Zoom Zoom Zoom? Hey did you did you hear that. Ah Mama Mama said. She's taken us to the zoo tomorrow. Mama's taken us do moms taking. He does do soup. How `bout you do McGaw Auge Zu Zu zu about you? Do you do do a gone to the zoo. Zunes Mary Marlboro New Mexico. Here on the children's Hour L.. Mother goose went into Rafi. But you know it's all the same we're making rhymes and rhythms and helping kids how to learn language so important next for us. We have time for another sing along. I would do way you have time. I think everybody serious song. And it's about what happens when you eat spaghetti and you sneeze uh-huh oh my win in some So rolled without the Bush. The Oh aw was nothing. As days it could be and it grew into a tree. It was great big meet and so if you eat speak Onto ball and a a so. If you we spoke a covered richie hang on and sneeze Mary Dean and all right. I'm focused and there's lots of vans these days getting West but we're the only band I know that does all the window and the way it works. Is this GONNA sing a nursery rhyme then. I'M GONNA sing a nursery rhyme. And and they will take requests from the audience. There is no audience. Georgia I in the girls boys about the Blando Boys Blade your turn off Humpty dumpty great follow. The in October and built out obligations sent out the window Massage Landau out the window. Adult out the window heater at voter in above out the window Taylor out the window out the window. Let's nice try. Mary had a little Lamb Mary. Lamb Lamp Marietto. The last the window out Mary Electa land. Serve it out the window to your favorite beverage. Not went to the cupboard but when she bent over the dog over out the window out the window over over the dog is a comrades added good. No everything big bad will put out a window. They'll end up out the window. Everything thank bad. We'll put out the window now. Ladies and Gentlemen Boys and girls attempt something extremely difficult missing to nursery rhymes at the same time Acapella in your brain at the same time acapella singing three minutes and S.. What's going to be saying? There was an old woman who lived in the shoe. Please don't try this. That's an without adult supervision. It's extremely dangerous. The woman she didn't want to do she'll the window the window bad love and this week the children's hour was reading and produced you just by Katie Stone. There's a lot of help from Mary. Dean mother goose. All the case. Crew and engineering help provided today by on the Martinez Venus here at the South Valley Library and Adam Smith over at UNM. Thank you Albuquerque. Bernallio county libraries for hosting our show. Today well many many thanks to our friends Mary Dean. They've been amazing. And thank you so much for being with us on the children's hour today Ed. Thank you our audience for being here to us for you catch US next week for another edition of the Children's hour. We're going to go out with a little of H Lynn Kitchens. Thank you Mary Dean. Thank you every everyone. ooh What what what can be. 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Anthropology

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Anthropology

"It helps us out a lot when you become a Patriot supporter. Find the children's hour podcasts. At Patriotair Dot com slash the children's hour. And thank you. What do you call Caveman? Strolling through a park. I A meander. It is time really power I asked him. Why from Museum of Politics The girls in the darkness people people had in caved to the phase. Always cow for the day is brave. Daybreak come come Sun. Rays comes in sees Jesus in pain of lanes but the nine-time chain now how the plane data breach the pain to burn fat. Take your shoes the time What to living? In the present tense people disconnect involved of causing an effect but the light reflex with looking from the flow of the Stream and devotes what they mean. Nothing ashes key words change. You gotTa play the flame reclaim you down and they. It signed child commencing nominee back together. One human family comebacks on back to the job on the funding in that respect and spirituality let these media foundation reality baby in choosing to US before we lose. We're talking about those gathering traveling navigating shot Shaw with the medicine. Believe in the power of the people in this moving out the fire. It I I I I in Wookey on the children's hour well hello there. I M Katie Stone. This is the children's hour. We are broadcasting today from the Maxwell Museum of Anthropology at the University of New Mexico we have a very sweet audience. Hello Audience Hello how hello. Thanks for coming out and the show today has a huge crew so I already said I'm Katie. Who else is here? Hi I'm Elliot Hi It's on a Bella. Hi Sean. Is I Oscar Hi. It's Julia High Really Happy Day. It's my all odds imaging high it slowly on hi. It's Lucas Heights manual. Hello Devon Hides Luke High Touch Avia Hyatt. Hi It's only may do Milo. Wow what a crew. Let's your children's our crew here. Thank you thank you for all being in here. We're talking before we went live a little bit. I just WANNA ask the crew and this can go to anybody here. Any ideas about ANTHR- apology. What it is any thoughts before we find out from the experts? Anyone yeah a lot of silence. Silence never works on radio. You guys like shaking. Your head never works so no one here really knows what anthropologists actually study. Although as we're looking around this museum easy umn. Anybody wanted to describe some of the things we're seeing. We're seeing a lot of schools animals goals and skins. Yeah from where we stand and has anyone walked around the corner here a little bit to see what you see. There's kind of creepy looking hominids type people and I think we're GONNA learn about those two we're going to be finding out the evolutionary history of animals are of people and if you've ever heard heard how people were kind of like like what. What do you think our closest animal relatives are chimpanzees? I think I damn yeah chimpanzees. What else maybe the Great Apes? Yeah Yeah over there. Yeah Gorillas Gorilla yes you do not look much like a girl La but you say were related right luke monkeys monkeys here. But how did we get from being monkeys and gorillas and chimpanzees to being human. And that's what we're going to find out today. That Dat is the study of anthropology. We have lots of great guests coming up on the show today and we hope that you stick with us. This is the children's hour coming up next some Poi- dog pondering right here on the children's hour Well the ancient Egyptians and the other After the Mayans inkens and all the Polynesians or all around the world. Long Long Time Go. People will walk wherever they had to go. They didn't have Ortiz and they didn't have roads. They didn't have those ugly lenient stores. For Texaco's in fact all around the world long longtemps go people would have to go In nineteen ninety and the gasoline does slow. But I still try and lost. Most of the places have job at sometimes my friends. They'll say frank freight wait a minute minute. There's a fuss or cab over there. Why don't we go ahead and get in? But I sing and yeah doc pondering from an Oldie but goodie wishing like a mountain thinking like the C.. Right here on the children's hour and we're thinking king about ancient Egyptians ancient people because we are broadcasting today from the Maxwell Museum of Anthropology. They're having something called the Family Fun Day and it's an open day for families to come check out this cool museum and have lots of cool activities to do while you're here but we really wanted to learn more about this place in general so please welcome with a warm. Welcome the director of the Maxwell Museum of Anthropology Energy Dr Carla Sonata. Thank you all for being here today. It's great to have you. What is this place? You're in the Maxwell Museum of Anthropology University of New Mexico and we're museum that shares stories stories about what it means to be human in a range of exhibits and activities so anthropologist look at humans from our earliest origins millions millions of years ago up until today interesting. Yeah what is Andrew Paul. What is edge? Anthropology mean anthropology means means anthro means people. An apology is the study of so. It's the study of people anthropologists. We often divide an answer apology into four different areas. Archaeology which is what I am is the study of people through the material things we create and leave behind biological or evolutionary anthropology studies are origins From the earliest primates up until today studies studies health and nutrition and other aspects of human biology cultural anthropology studies living peoples and societies and linguistic anthropology studies as language. And how we communicate with each other I was wondering. What are your goals for this museum Argos for this museum museum are several? We're part of a university. So one of the things we WANNA do is feature the latest anthropological research. Being conducted led by our faculty and scholars. But we also want to educate the public and especially children in this area about the story of humanity humanity. Yes New Mexico. A good place to study anthropology. New Mexico is a great place to study anthropology. New Mexico has so many diverse cultures and peoples that we can all learn from and learn about and has a really rich archaeological heritage and has some great scholars here at the University of New Mexico. What do you do daily? Oh my Gosh I do a lot of different things thanks. Unfortunately I spend way too much time at a computer writing grant proposals and coming up with ideas for new exhibits and things like that. But when I'm in the field is an archaeologist then I'm out working in the Sun digging and studying ancient peoples my own work is in India so it's pretty far away from here here so I don't get there as often as I would like. Well you have so many interesting things at this museum including like we're standing in front of a Mexican exa can wolf skin. It's kind of sad in a way actually And some Mexican Wolf Skulls. How is that connected to anthropology? Now this is one of our temporary exhibits. And you're here at the right time because it'll be coming down within a few weeks to be replaced by new exhibit but this is an exhibit exhibit. That's looking at the relation between humans and the wolves as you may know the wolf is the symbol the mascot of the University of New Mexico because wolves were indigenous to this part of the world. And now they're very endangered also are also important to the beliefs leafs of many native American societies and have been threatened in recent years by human expansion and other activities so we wanted to tell the story of the relations of humans with these animals. We're going to be speaking with more of your staff here on the show today and we're pretty excited about it but I know there's some things that I I wanNA learn about one. Is We think we all came from apes and yet here we are as humans and while I can see the facial similarities between and myself and a great ape especially certain moods. I want to know how we got from there to here. And I think that you all help explain that pretty well. This is something that our biological anthropologist work on about how we A. and apes many millions of years ago shared common ancestors and then evolved in different directions. Our species evolved called into what we are today Homo Sapiens sapiens. Other ancestral apes evolved into modern gorillas chimps. We share about ninety percent of our DNA with these species. So we'll talk about where we came from. Well we're GONNA talk more with the staff here at the Maxwell Museum of anthropology apology on the campus of the University of New Mexico where we're broadcasting today with a great audience Dr Carlson -opoly thank you so much for being with the children's hour off then the forty Jeff if you want to the speaking okay doc in what and we need people the Melinda they feel bad can they jab it is uh-huh with the children's hour is listener supported public radio produced by the children's hour. INC needed a nonprofit dedicated to producing high-quality kids public radio. Learn more at children's our dot Org Wolf is a proud supporter order. The children's hour meow of creates immersive experiences the transport audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic realms of story and exploration flirtation learn more at Bi Wolf Dot Com. You're listening to Chiro Gin sour and we'll be right back you're listening to the children's hour. We are broadcasting today from the Maxwell Museum of Anthropology on the campus of the University of New Mexico. We've we've got great audience here. Hello Audience Hello huge crew. Hello Long AW and coming up next Dr Jerry Dawson. His here she is she is an anthropology is actually at associate professor of anthropology at UNM. Her research focuses on reconstructing the ecology of fossilized apes and early Human Ancestors so oh she does research in Uganda with the Kabbalah Chimpanzee Project so not too far off that we're related to chimpanzees. I think that's pretty accurate. And she's done previous project all throughout Africa Asia and Europe that are related to paleontology and welcome to the children's hour. Dr Sheri Nelson Dan. Thanks for having me Octavia. You have a very good first question to ask what makes human. The unique paleontologists were interesting and and figuring out when humans evolved lots of unique traits. We're special in our anatomy so we have much bigger brains than most animals. You got a fairly small face compared to a Saudi animal. You Walk on two feet instead of four but also behaviorally were awed. If you think about it you cook your food other animals. Don't do that You guys take a really long time to grow up You we have language. Other animals. Communicate may bark or meow meow or they have sent marks but no one has are kind of language. So we're interested in tracing all of those things. How exactly are you so sure that humans evolved from apes so I I'll have to give credit to geneticists? geneticists studied Indiana and discovered that we share DNA with chimpanzees gorillas on the order of say ninety eight or ninety nine percent so our closest living relatives or chimps and chimp's closest living relatives are actually us not guerrillas but also from a paleontological perspective when when we look at the earliest hominids earliest human ancestors. They're really very chippy. In many respects they're about the same body sizes at chimp about the same brain size as joe and the earliest ones were walking on two feet but they were also still in the trees like a champ way. Wow Yeah any is inspiring a question from somebody. Yeah Evan you have a question down there. How can you be sure that a bone is a human bone? I'm well that's a tricky one and believe it or not more calmly in a false a record you find teeth. As opposed to bone and artists can look a whole lot like pig teeth. We've been known to confuse them once in Ohio. Otherwise there are people who really know their anatomy. Adamy really know their bones and they're very good at recognizing it so. I was wondering I had a teacher. Tell me that we're more closely related to a pig then chimpanzee. This can't be true can it no. It's not true. Don't believe everything you learn in school. I guess sorry teachers I I also pigs are really smart. But they're not as smart as a chip or human. Do you know about how long it took for chimpanzees to evolve into into humans. Well if you think about it. Chimpanzees didn't really evolve into humans because they're still here and we're here but we share a common an ancestor with humans. Which means that if you were to go back somewhere between five to eight million years ago and I'm guessing around seven or eight million years ago? Then there was a creature that lived that led to jumps today and also led to us and the fossil record goes back about seven million years ago and things looked pretty chippy back then. So chances are chips have been around for that long. And they probably haven't changed a whole Al-Waad during that time Razz our lineage. The human lineage. Got All those features. We just talked about. Let's talk about that a little bit. We see in your museum there are and visually. It's right around the corner from where we're broadcasting so we don't actually have to look at these but there's kind of these models all sorts of different types of hominids that came before us so as everybody on the crew heard of neanderthals guys heard of neanderthals. Yeah nodding yes. They're nodding thing neanderthals either way. Oh good oh good. We're never wrong so neanderthals. Not neander smalls there tomorrow. They're big they were here. We're big and then we know about those are very famous those maybe are more recent but then there were other ones. That was Australopithecus. There was okay you you can name them all probably but there were all these different there. Were the hobbits which I know you guys. Don't call them habits because your anthropology actually were hobbits and they were named Frodo and build and they they were little little people that look like hobbits and but they. You didn't make it as a species. Can you talk a little bit about all those different types of him. Oh I would divide humans into two categories. The first ones would be the ones that were more apelike. And those are the ones you just mentioned like the Osterloh scenes. They were bipedal but they were all they could walk on two feet onto feet but they could also still be in the trees they had features were hanging in the trees and they grew up more like an ape so faster than us and they had brings is about like an ape. They had tools but they were pretty. Rudimentary is kind of hard to see. Their tools is is different than rocks. The second set that begins with our group Homo. 'cause you're homo sapiens and think of Homo Homo Erectus that means upright person. This is someone who only walked onto feet forget. Being in the trees anymore had more substantial tools was tall like not short like a champ. Those sort of things. And that's where you would find the neanderthals but why did why did Homo Sapiens sapiens survive. And all these and there were dozens right. Am I right that there were many many different types of there were many many different types. Types of australopithecus means so the apelike hominids but once you got to the more humanlike there were fewer. There's more than one but there were fewer and that it is still a million dollar question why we're here and everyone else went extinct. So did we drive the others to extinction because we were somehow better hunters. Did we just make babies. You know we don't know. And when did the brain size change because you talked you mentioned briefly that the brains are really small compared to human brains of our ape cousins. But when when did that do we know and was that that related to why Homo sapiens survived. So those apelike ones had apelike brains the australopithecus scenes. And then when you get to I called Homo Homo Erectus. Their brains were a little bigger. When you get to neanderthals they actually had the same brain size as we do? And we think that neanderthals were probably very much like us. Some people have joked that if you put a neanderthal on a New York City subway he would just like look like an eyeball in New York City. Yeah but we have been hearing a I've I've been hearing and reading that I was hearing that we have DNA of neanderthals true. Yeah do you think there has been made in between these different species species so for the longest time. We thought probably not but thanks to some really fancy genetics going on at the Max Planck Institute in Germany. They're able to get DNA out of some fossils. Now the trick to getting DNA at a fossils is you have to have fossils in really cold really dry Brian Environments and what do you know. neanderthals lived during the glacial cycle of Europe so they have been able to get DNA out of neanderthals and they have found that neanderthals and modern. Humans may have interbred just a little bit. So you guys that are doing genetic your genetics at twenty three and me and whatnot. Some of them will allow you to see if you have any hint of Neanderthal. DNA in you. Is it true if you're a redhead. You have Nanto DNA. They did find a trade of red the hair for Neanderthal. That doesn't mean you read heads out here neanderthals. But if you're really proud of that you just go for many thanks to Dr Sheri Nelson from the University of New Mexico. Associate professor of anthropology for being with us on the children's on a hot dense state. The nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started wearing your began to cool. The entre began to Julie. The Andrew Doll developed does reveal. The outside fifty battle started with a bang the Dawn aww man is really not that long as every galaxy was born in less time than it takes the sing the song fraction of a second elements were made streaked with dinosaurs. Sores all met their fate. They tried to beat but they were Layton they all die Benji most invited saying back airplane. COLLAPSING APP be fever. Aw Man australopithecus would really sick. Sick of catching ear ache dotted with the big. It all started with AH on River they guy so off slowly with because yeah yeah You're listening to the children's hour. Everyone singing here at the Maxwell Museum of Anthropology on the campus of the University of New Mexico and we are playing Lucy in the sky. Because it actually has meaning meaning for anthropologists. Coming up next Dr Carmen Moseley. She is a biological anthropologist and she is the lab director of the Laboratory of Human osteology theology at the Maxwell Museum of Anthropology and in addition to caring for the maxwells extensive OSTEO logical collections. Doctor Mosely overseas. He's a body donor program and works with indigenous communities. And when she's not at work she likes to cook and go on walks and play board games games and we're going to get into games. Welcome to the children's hour. Dr Carmen Moseley. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being with us. I guess our first question for you has to be what on earth is osteology. Osteology is is the scientific study of bones and their function so human osteology is the study of human bones. Wow good question for you right on that do you know how old Abon is there. A couple of ways that you can Age a bone. There are some methods where you can drill a little piece of the bone and you can do some testing testing some methodological testing to determine the age you can also and figure out the chronological age of the individual of WHO's bone. It is is so if you're looking at teeth. There are charts that we can look at to tell us. At what stage of development tooth might be or other parts of our body body our body grows and develops in ways that we know and in links that we know and so we can look at certain parts of the bone and see if it has met certain stages of development. Why is the Song Lucy in the sky with diamonds? Important Anthropologists. Well I asked ask someone else this question because I knew it was coming. So when Lucy as she is referred to Australopithecus the pit the scene forensis was she was explained for people who don't know us a Hussein. Lucie is a fossil Hamad. We've got an artist reconstruction in our ancestors exhibit. But she is one of the most complete and is a well known fossil ancestor Hamad ancestor. And she is called Lucy. Because when she was discovered in the seventies seventies and the Beatles were also popular they had a big party and named to Lucy and listen to lucy in the sky with Di Three of Lucy. Okay we have lots more questions for you about what ancient human life might have been like and my Oh there she is. Come on up to your mike girl back then. Did humans play games. I think humans did play games. uh-huh we do have some evidence of some ancient cultures who had games for example in Central America and South America in believes for example. There are really big ball courts so they may be predecessors to What we would now play soccer? I'm so there are some evidence of games. We also know that in Europe for example in in caves are our human ancestors. Were drying paintings in caves so there is some different types of expression in and if we look at chimpanzees we know that they also play and if we share a common ancestor. It's probably likely that our human ancestors were also so playing games you you're participating in something called a body donor program which I have to say sounds a little creepy and a little. Yeah and what is that. So the Maxwell Museum of anthropology since about the late seventies has had a body donor program. We have a documented skeletal collection and so people upon their deaths donate their bodies to do the Maxwell Museum Science and people come from all over the country all over the world to study our skeletal material. It is one of few collections skeletal collection so bone collections. That is contemporary in the last fifty years in the country entry and so people come to learn lots of things about our human anatomy. How the things that we do affects our bones and affects our muscles? We can learn lots of things about our diet about disease about how we grow and how we age. So what does that have to do really. Is that like modern anthropology. Is that really what you're doing anthropology into the future. It's not just the past. Well it's a little bit of both. But it is modern anthropology most anthropologists who calm and our collection our forensic anthropologists sts so forensic anthropologists study the human skeleton and investigate ways that people have died and how they can look get the skeleton and identify an individual and so it is more of a contemporary study of anthropology. Well if you you want to donate your body to science this is the place to do it. And this is the woman who will take on Dr Carbon Mosley. Thank you so much for being with us on the children's thank thank you. The children's hour is listener supported. Kids public radio. Find out more at children's hour dot org funding provided by Bernallio County New Mexico. Burn Co Dot Gov your thank our. We'll be right back. Thank you. It took me. You want to the new opt the fire water folks come on Pearl. Let's get out of here. I have no money but I have no fear. I know a place where we have be safe. Deep in the wild will live in cave. Okay just BICA. Bear lives in Dan and with lots hair in our own. Dan You all need cars or electric insured insured but we will be free Roxanne Eh gene on. Oh I won't be well. I don't know it sounds kind of weird. How will be my spear is their food out there more than enough all today and they'll get Where will be sleep under the sky? What if it rains? Show time wash five feet and you can wash mine will be busy all the time. Take off mm-hmm. Yeah and we wear skin leaves. And when it's hot out in the trees will need sunscreen sunscreen dirt and yes it yes Rock Dom your superb cool and parents don't wear shoes and sometimes you like your best Mike Stall Albi the ballot agrees to gather ramblas. Talk All owns major. Oh I see then jump let's I see a big smile signs that they're they asked. It scares Eh. Some has gone. I have churn law try to Real son P Sad Sad John onscreen stirs Doc burry sobbing Speed behalf monsters the Laura Monster the sesame street rockers and Rem Furry Shiny happy monsters. This is the children's hour. We're learning about anthropology today at the Maxwell Museum of anthropology at the campus of the University of New Mexico. Here and Sunny Albuquerque. And I'm just curious my crew. It's been a really interesting morning. Don't you think it. Yeah Yeah what did you learn. I learned that humans closest relative is in Pansy. You were right right. It wasn't the pig I'm so glad we dispelled that myth and anybody else. Yeah what do you wish he would have learned that we missed. I wish I learned what they did to preserve the bones after they found them man. That's a good question. I think too when they find these ancient bones of humans human species hominids. I think too that they're bone already because they've been fossilized into bone. It's kind of a cool thought that we get fossilized into bone. Yeah I learned that it's something about neanderthals imaging you were GonNa say something about neanderthals. What did you learn that they might have created soccer? Your we're going to create a new myth the neanderthals created soccer. And you learn it here on the children's hour it may or may not be true but we have pigs teeth also so you learn that do well. You are listening to the children's hour and what a great show from the Maxwell so museum of anthropology let's give a hand to all the folks who work you been the wolves there's a cave with. Its going back Kooky treasure hidden behind a rock bubble. There could be some some snakes and that would be quite a shock vic the doorway to another dimension but there could be a bear. Can't you feel orange. I certainly can't K- no I understand. Do we go in a K.. 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Unlocking Family History Through Song & Second Graders On Frida Kahlo

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Unlocking Family History Through Song & Second Graders On Frida Kahlo

"Thank you to our patriotic listeners. If you haven't yet become a Patriot supporter go to patriotdepot dot com slash. The children's hour. What does a rabbit used to fix? Its for hairspray. Yeah I heard is with the morning sun. The driesen breathe the oxygen. It's another another day a spring out of bed. unreality what will today if I open my nature surprise that can make my heart's sake. I WANNA be been my arms wide Komo for all that she a for all that she. Ah here we go again. Let's play outside. Give me five. I'm so happy your mattress and it's another another day abused so happy inside Hannah. Keep flying high and I know you feel saying today Adventures in two days because we make the perfect not great. Open your arms. Give your friends big hug for all a ah here. We go. mm-hmm branches of a tree. That Hyun me 'CAUSE WE MAKE FM. It's another another day from the same trap and sometimes a crab it will always be you today all the lessons in love in front of us. 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Since we're about to have family gatherings during holidays we thought this was a good time to learn how to find out your own family history using songs. Then we're also going to feature second graders from Coronado Elementary School and Albuquerque's downtown. These kids have been working on a presentation about free to Kalo the legendary Mexican painter. There's a lot more coming up on the children's hour stick with us. We're GONNA you start with a little of Michael in the rock monsters from their seeing life in twenty twenty CD title track right here. On the children's hour stories. I know the ground was it above. Go off walk to the forty coming back from an take time on the couch. See on spider. See Johnny Gene it Charlie Brown in July nineteen seventies awesome. Thank you the Internet ended world. Never Autour told him. Impacted thousands of hits the side. Go for walk or something. Yeah enjoy the Nice neighbors. See the ought not took. You're listening to the children's hour and that was from a CD called seeing life in twenty twenty a brand new release by Michael and the Loch Ness monsters and we have Michael Napolitano from that group in the East Coast on the line with us right now. Welcome to the children's hour Michael. Thanks so much for having me so tell us about your seeing life in twenty twenty project. It's a bit different from your other projects you've done in the past. We have played you on the show before But this one's a little bit different talk about that yet. It's pretty simple and I did it for both adults and kids. Were trying to bridge. That gap So everyone could listen together. It's basically a musical retrospective of the last one hundred years a song from each decade nineteen twenty and nineteen thirty nineteen forty and so on and we wrote the original for two thousand twenty called seeing seeing life in two thousand twenty. I really liked the idea that you have written about in regards to this project about using these songs for young young people to get to know their elders. Better like you can use a song to find out what someone was doing inside of that decade for example can talk a little bit about that of course you know that's how I was raised. I was raised in a very large. If you heard all the vowels in my name I was raised in a very large Italian family so much so that when I was born I lived in a house with my grandfather and my aunt. Was it just like my immediate family. It was you know everybody constantly people in and out of the House so I was introduced to these songs at a young age so those conversations were existing in my house. Now now what we did was trying create these conversations in your house so Saint Mary's votes for example We may remade that song that was written for adults. But it's really a kid song if you listen to it but it wasn't written for kids and a lot of people will remember that song on the radio. A lot of people that were born in the forties and fifties and I guarantee most people have never heard it. Let's play it right now. This is Mary. dotes on the brand new release seeing seeing life at twenty twenty Michael in the rack ness monsters here on the children's hour goes Ito's lousy dad yards and then all lancy abby Bad Z. Z.. That the heat of those e then Orlando the word sounds weird funny. T- We got a bit jumbled Gerbil digital copy sake I anti tonight the issue it. That's all so fine. I know that Song from my childhood my grandmother used to sing it to me so oh she's no longer with us but she you know she was born in the thirties. And that song was like a bedtime type. Asong just You know a song to sing and they sang a for kids because it was good for kids but it was written for adults. So I think like if you put that song on in your house MOMS and Dads and Kiddos out there you put that song on for like when you're having a family gathering or something I guarantee that fifty percent of the people will have never heard that song before and the older folks fifty percent will have heard it before. So that's where the conversation begins. You know when we learn those stories from our parents parents and our grandparents and our elders around us elderly aunts and uncles. Then we become the ones who carry those stories stories onto the generations below us our grandchildren our great grandchildren. Do you have any of those stories that go way back generations before you. Yeah I mean my grandfather ran a winery and a bakery so in Newark New Jersey. Back back in Sh- JEEZ the forties and Fifties Napoli Tano Bakery Napolitano Bakery. My aunt tells me WHO's way older than my dad that that that in in the morning. When they woke up for school they would get like fresh baked bread and bakery and the guys would like make them special roles that they liked liked and they would come straight out of the oven before school would like hot hot would like butter on it? I mean imagine that and and my father tells me about like you know those those neighborhoods in Newark is just one side of my family but they had a boom Mbo. The sweet potato guy would come by selling sweet potatoes for a nickel you know. I've homeboy coming down with the smoking. Carter sweet potatoes down the street in Newark. That's so cool. Well there are stories in people's families that can be kind of buried in hard hard to get out what's good question. That kids should ask to try to pull some of those families stories out asking your grandparent. How they got school and what their school was like? What were the ages of the children were? They all their age Did they get to school by walking. I mean some people might find that their grandfather went to school or grandma went to school with second graders and fourth graders in the same classroom or are that they had to go there to travel hours to school or that they were home schooled. I think schooling is come a really long way in this country country and they were really a lot of ways to be schooled back in the day. I mean we. My parents grew up in the city. So it's very obvious. They went to a public school. But if you're if you're going up out west there especially Ashley and your grandparents grew up out west. There are some stories to be had there. We've been talking with Michael Napolitano founder of Rock Music School and leader of the popular family band. Michael and the Rock Ness monsters and we're talking about his new project seeing life in twenty twenty twenty. Well Michael It's been a pleasure having you on the show. Can you suggest a song that we should go out with that. Maybe there's a little different on the CD. Not Maybe one that speaks to. You personally will jump by Van. Halen is a rock song. That's not so accessible for the little ones and that that song was my first rock concert in one thousand nine hundred eighty four My father took me and he told me a story where he hid in the bathroom. Because it was so allowed like he couldn't deal with it so but me and my brothers went and I wanted to remake that song so it wasn't so KBOI stress although I like this the original but a little more mellow for the for the children so I put that song together as you hear it on the record Michael Napolitano from Michael and the rock ness monsters. You can learn more at Michael and the rock ness monsters dot com. Thank you so much for being with us on the children's hour so my pleasure. It's great to meet you and to meet all your fans out there. Hey everybody I did and nothing gets me out. You got it the toughest round baby just you Feel you got to go to get to. What's real? Can you see me said and here I got my back against the record. I the worst that you see a To See what not as well job go ahead. They said that you. Oh big what. What can you see me standing in Iraq back against the record machine? I was that you see the job. Go ahead go ahead The children's hour is listener supported kids public radio produced by the Children's Hour Inc a nonprofit fit dedicated to producing high-quality kids public radio. Learn more at children's our dot. Org Wolf is a proud supporter of the children's our meow. Wolf creates immersive experiences. The transport audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic realms of story and exploration learn learn more at the Hour Wolf Dot Com. You're listening in the children's our kids like radio. We'll be right back. Yeah Yeah the Dr Gray Campau purdue. Slow my GRANDPA is pretty slow but does things just Brad. Judge does things just so my grandmoms produce chickens and chickens. Now many she she she gives us class to the New Mexico Law She lacks to wear baseball caps. She likes to wear based on can do digs where Bay skulking money I wish you all she is Now wish you all could. We could all sit around and watch the Lawrence welk show. She's a woman with Sir. My Grandma ause police slow. Grandma is pretty slow but does things just dosing to sue these all right the whole family the great grandpa just by my grandma. She's is grandma. It pretty darn soon That was Joe West from a CD called if the world was upside down my grandma and he's UH Man From Santa Fe New Mexico friend of the children's hour you're tuned to the children's hour and coming up in just a few minutes on the show show we were so lucky to get into the school called Coronado Elementary. It's in Albuquerque's downtown. It's bilingual school and we visited two classrooms. The first classroom. We're GONNA play for you. Today is Mrs Jones Second Grade Class. They did an entire report on free to Kalo but first a little susie Talmon from her brand new release Spanish songs for children learning Spanish on the children's hour yea charged Aw and one day. That was an old to a on gene cotton sheep on some hand in Claw Gina. China get DONNCHA CHART SUE WOAH WOAH support. and He loved. Aw My name is Alejandra Theon and this is my class my second grade classroom. AMAC coronado elementary school in Albuquerque. New Mexico we chose that Gallo because she face many many challenges in her life and we learned about character actor traits and see how people have hope and how we learn from life. Uh Free colored. What would you do? What the Yin about and mustache frisa gala? Become the most famous female Mexican painter of our our time. She was not very famous or she was alive. She become famous close to her death. And after modern-day Laibach They don was born on July six nine teams. Oh seven in She called herself for that. Because it meant these in German she was born to a Jewish Durian. German father and a Spanish Mexican Indian for Paul's are taught Hurt to paint on photographs at a young age. He taught her to love nature and are after accident in nineteen twenty eight. She showed her paintings to voted and they fell in love. They married on August Twenty First Nineteen twenty nine in the painting. In view from their wedding. People said the marriage between an Elephant Anna in a dove was twenty. Two and the goal was forty three years old. She did not want to be in New York alone in painting by dresses Hank in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. She finally wanted at exhibition in in in New York City in nineteen thirty eight pairs in nineteen thirty nine the United States and Mexico. Oh City in one thousand nine hundred eighty two plead Carlos a whole brave woman when she was a little girl. Nikola one we doctor after an accident. Monday change your life forever colorful loving set some type so she helped your pets because she loves them feeder cattle had eleven in pets. You will read it. Although her pets pyramid in the backyard of Gaza suit so they can live. Pretty that kyle had out green unparalleled named Bernice that Pearson the painting self purple with NATO and nine hundred forty one. She had two ISH Predator monkeys. Name name for lunch They were year she also had a pet named Gonzo She dressed including because she loves to Mexico crew dressed in bright colors because it made her look beautiful Don Raabe. Aw Aw Kim Yang Media Making aw Rita painted love because she gonNa Bust Chris September Seventeenth nineteen twenty five. When she was eighteen years old fritos life was very difficult pretty that painted into herself or loved and pain chief felt she lived to pay? She painted one hundred and forty three paintings. Eighteen and fifty five were shelled portrait. The frame was one of her self portrait was painted in nineteen thirty eight. I like the painting of the frame because it was a lot of details. Like flowers and birds. Some AFRITA. Paintings had her animals wetter rush. She loved them so much. People say she had many animals. Because I she could not have any children Shoe is is in our teacher in top Hinton last minute on that. Who read the few that godless importer woman many risks shoes? A woman with many opinions chose not afraid to four. She does Miss Gallo experienced a lot of challenges in her life contracted polio polio. When she was six years old? What's confined to a bed for nine months? Polio made her leg weaker. And she tried to hide with long Skirts and pants and he was eighteen years old. She was involved in the accident that the damage her right leg her collar bone ribs and her spine fine. The damage was so intense that she was a body cast for months. After the accident. She was lonely. I could not get out of bed so she painted you. See God had thirty five operations on her right leg. She had to relearn to walk twice one of our the most famous painting that shows pain is a little deer painted and nine hundred forty six. This painting has an image of a with thus based on it that has eros on the body. We did not like this painting because it looks very painful. We can see that she was a lot of pain paid when she painted this painting they can learn a lot from that and her life. I learned that we should help others in need by helping over. We make ourselves feel better. I learned that she was very break. She believed in herself and she did not feel her best. She did not let anyone stop from what she wanted to do. I run that she had hoped bashed you feel better one day anyone. She wasn't paying. She keep pinning and working. I learned that he did not let anything stop her. Even after her leg was amputated she she did what she loved and never gave up eight days before her death she finally finished the painting. Viva La Vida a painting eighteen watermelons on July thirteenth. Nineteen fifty four just seven days after her forty seven birthday free. That doesn't have fast is suing her childhood home. Her ashes rest in Arunachal Sassou. We wonder what her life will have been unlike if she had never had her accent while she became famous will she have became a painter. Own doctor will she be a happier. We will never really know mccombs. Uh the urethra he won. Miss Janos Cemil see model the seal opo Biblical Booze Scott. He then gone through the massive. Gouda me some me. WHO's Blah Momon in this era? mickle a he are ungodly commit. Lovell's me me. So whole similar insignia. Lucile he gutty. That was Mrs. This is unseemly on Second Grade Classic. Coronado elementary school in Albuquerque. New Mexico. It's an albuquerque public. School located in downtown in town Albuquerque. And you heard in order Viviana aaliyah Nadia Zoe. Ally Allergies Danielle. Emily Matias Morelli McColl Antony. Elijah Sophie Cherish Jocelyn Oliver over Ada Julia and Elizabeth many things to these kids for teaching us all about free Ticao. Why on Monday talking? Why Bima young boy? I'd be bad. Or why outdid it his own Nassau on they said Owners crying in story about five or San Jose data thaddeus money boss. I Sell Santa Gone as usual and broke. Broke one lord out song gays. Thank God. Let Me Donald. Bob and Tom Boya died. Why Eddie Bob Straw died? Why Boy Abby Died Pascal. On Mega said does not as his For barnum sorry by two said Rossano said I doubt that and then my boss out Sam Gagner found Roman guard a song and the children's is our listener supported. Find out more at children's our dot or support for this program also provided by Bernallio County New Mexico burn coach Doc. You're listening to the children's our kids lake radio. We'll we'll be right back Tocine by the band Har- from poco regard and before the break you heard Mariana. Iran's e from her twenty seventeen released primavera Spanish songs for kids. The children's our crew in partnership ship with the University of New Mexico. Biology Department will be interviewing astronauts from the International Space Station on Tuesday December number. Ten in Albuquerque. The program will be live streamed on NASA TV worldwide and will play our interview on the next episode episode of the Children's hour. But in the meantime we're gathering questions to ask the astronauts from our listeners. And we need your help. What do you want I want to know about life aboard the I S S? You can submit your ideas for questions online at children's our dot org slash slash I s S. There are some limits. 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Earthquakes & Volcanoes

The Children's Hour

58:09 min | 1 year ago

Earthquakes & Volcanoes

"Thank you to our patriotic listeners. If you haven't yet become a Patriot supporter go to patriotdepot dot com slash. The children's hour. What did the tectonic plate see after the earthquake? I it's not my fault in our and they always town. Yeah all gone number from just up read read read read down underground it to go away take it back. I don't mm-hmm McCain. I don't eat the On how does it a heroine does it answer to say the answer seems essay. Don't hold Joe Awesome now. Ramon knows around the the governor. Go hello now in Newark. How does it you say the answer? always say don't Holds Nope ah the band wookey foot. This is the children's hour. I'm Katie Stone. I'm so happy to be with everybody today. We've got a very nice full House House. Hello crew let's start over here. Who Do we have in the studio? Hi It's Liam. Hi It's Richard. Hi It's ally hello. What's Amadeus Hi? It's faneuil hi. It's is it loads then I it's Malcolm Yellow taily happy day. It's Maya Is Lucas run will today. We have a pretty exciting topic on our plate. Yeah they're laughing because we're GONNA be talking about Earth. Science tectonic plates seismic activity volcanoes and other questions. We have to like anybody. What a super volcano wave? What is a tectonic plate in danger of earthquake? How do tectonic plates in earthquakes affect volcanoes? Do we have any active volcanoes. What causes in earthquake when volcano erupts doesn't earthquake also well happen? We have so many good questions and we have a perfect person to answer them and in the studio today. WE'RE GOING TO BE INTERVIEWING DR Masumi Roy. She's a professor Besser of physics and astronomy at the University of New Mexico with expertise in Earth Science. And so it's pretty exciting It's kind of what you you might say. And an earth shaking kind of show. Yeah I'm curious if anyone you want in this room has ever been in an earthquake. has anyone here ever been an earthquake that you've been aware we might have been in one on Iran. Remember when you went to California. My mom woke up in the middle of the night and she said she felt the earth shaking but none of us felt it. So you probably weren't right but we might have been. My mom was also in earthquake. Apparently for me when I was born it was pretty strange. Apparently my GRANDPA was in a bed during an earthquake and then he fell out of bed and then he went back to sleep. We'd he fell out of bed because of the shaking he he actually got shaken out of bed. Yes wow I I suppose they can be pretty powerful. Well we have a lot of questions today on the show for Dr Masumi me Roy. Stick with us. This is the children's hour They as who take me home Maybe more from the best of Mandy Moore. Welcome back to the Children's hour in the studio today. Dr Masumi Roy. She is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of New Mexico with a special interest in Earth Science. Welcome back to the children's hour. Dr Roy Hi Katie. Nice to be here. We're so happy to have you here and we have so many questions for you so what. It is earth science so earth sciences very general and includes anything that you might imagine that has to do with studying the systems ends of the Earth on the rocks the air the oceans these three things basically form earth science. But you can imagine since we'd live live on the earth and all biological beings live on the earth or sciences also tied to many other sciences like life sciences what makes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions happen. So the outside of the earth is very stiff and inside of it can flow over very very long times so it's kind of like The planet is got a rigid aged. Shell on the outside but the inside moves very very slowly over hundreds of millions of years and that rigid shell can move around around And as it does so places where two parts of the shell. These are called the plates of plate. tectonics where those plates rub. That's where you get earthquakes and sometimes when the plates come together you get volcanos there Sometimes you get volcanos where the plates are pulled apart. So everything that happens regarding earthquakes and volcanoes on the earth is tied to this thing called plate tectonics ex and that's the motion of these rigid plates on the outside of the planet. Is that what a fault zone is. Yeah so a fault zone. The the biggest fault zones in the world are places where two plates meet but a fault zone. That name can be given to any any place where you have vo huge fracture in the earth and it doesn't it can be in the middle of a plate to it doesn't only happen on the edges of plates are. Are there any earthquakes and Albuquerque or volcanoes. Yes so in Albuquerque. We live on what's called the Rio Grande rift and Dan. Along this region there are lots of not currently active but previously active volcanoes and volcanic activity eighty and. Yeah we've had earthquakes in New Mexico and we get small earthquakes All the time in New Mexico but they're very small and their heart to feel. How do earthquakes affect volcanic eruptions? Oh that's a great question. So that's the kind of question that you know so We think that when you think about earthquakes volcanoes you think. Whoa what's the connection between them and it's only really been in the last few tens of years that people have quantitatively said there is a connection and in some cases when you have an earthquake the seismic waves passing through to the region of a volcano has been shown to kind of trigger a volcanic eruption? It doesn't happen all the time but once in a while while we've we know it can happen. What causes earthquake? An earthquake happens when you have a lot of stress which which is basically another word for things moving moving moving moving moving until they come to a place where they either break or they have to slide. So if you imagine there's the if you have a book on the table right and the book is really really heavy and you take your hand and you're pushing on the book you start pushing on it. The book might not move right away but at some point when you push hard enough the book might suddenly we start to move so earthquakes are like that. It's where tectonic plates are moving past each other and they're moving slowly slowly slowly and nothing happens for a a long time and then all of a sudden all that it's called stress is built up and then it releases in a big earthquake and everything and can move all at once. Are there any active volcano near Albuquerque. Like right now. The most recent Lava activity activity in the whole state of new. Mexico was many thousands of years ago. So no there are no active volcanoes. Right near Albuquerque. Right now how does the volcano you know become inactive. Oh that's a great question. So when we look at volcanoes and the people that studied volcanoes go do places which have lots of active active volcanoes places like Sumatra and Indonesia other parts of Indonesia and Japan and and The aleutian Russian trench in Alaska. All these places have lots of active volcanoes including in the US the cascades. Right there's Mount Rainier and mount don't Saint Helen's in many of these places what you find is that the volcano will erupt for awhile and then be quiet for a while and then will arrive for a while and then be quiet for a while so this kind of pattern of sudden eruption and then more quiet activity is something that happens at all of all Kano's but in some cases the entire volcano might shut off for millions of years. And that can happen if the magma which which is the molten rock stops being supplied to the bottom of the volcano and If that happens then whatever magma might be there might get a chance to actually freeze and become solid and there will be no more eruptions. I've heard that the I'm Hamish's mountain were was the volcano. Like what the hot springs that I've heard that if they're the volcano there might be hot springs. Yeah so the Hamas volcano was indeed of okay no it still is The last big eruption in that volcano was about one point two five five million years ago. So that's a long time ago. But the heat and activity the magmatic activity like you know when you think think about molten magma that might still exist today at great depth beneath the Hamas Volcano And that heat is still coming Out and what happens is rain waterfalls and goes into these cracks and gets taken very deep down and gets heated up and and then comes back out as hot spring water. We're talking with Dr Masumi Roy. She is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of New Mexico with with a specialty in Earth. Science we're talking about volcanoes and earthquakes is thou talk loud too many ways and times roll water silverlake AAC golden two parallel around the minute wooden canoe in the big rug amounts Muser land. I've heard of bow springtimes now will meet me. Feel clover owned bounced go. No Snow Rain Fall Down the Big Rock Candy Mountain Eh. uh-huh Rock in the mountains lands fair and bright pennies grow Bush Asleep out every cow Sarande meadows and their evening butter cups. Unbound don't go there ain't no snow and rain fall in the wind. Blow out of the person of these peppermint entries. Ramazzotti fountains eliminates rinsing. The Blue Bird Sings in the Big Rock Candy Mountain Elizabeth Mitchell and Lisa Loeb from two two thousand three release. Catch the moon. This is the children's hour. I'm Katie Stone in. The studio with us are charlize on our crew. High Kids and Dr Masumi Roy from the University of New Mexico's physics and Astronomy Department Hartman. She specializes in Earth Science. And we're talking about volcanoes and earthquakes. What is a super volcano as Super Volcano? Okay no is one of these huge eruptions where more than a hundred cubic kilometers of stuff comes out of the earth In a single eruption. Can you give us a sense. Of how much is a hundred cubic kilometers. So one hundred cubic kilometers is about route six miles by six miles by about one kilometer. So if you were to take a six mile six mile area like say that area area around downtown Albuquerque and doug down something like a kilometer into the earth and removed all dirt. That's how much material bill gets. Arrested in. One hundred cubic kilometer eruption and a super volcano is something. That's a lot bigger than that. So that's kind of a cutoff for that. What what kind of rocks and minerals in that and what kind of things formed from all volcanic activity so volcanic activity first of all is it really powerful way in which Some of the most fertile parts of the earth gets their soil so a lot of these minerals that are involved in volcanic eruptions include minerals can be found in rocks that are called Ri- light and Basalt You might have heard of those kinds of names. So those are the kinds of rocks that form from volcanic eruptions. But it also turns out that in Albuquerque Erkki. We live right next to the Sandia mountains which are also what's called an Ignatius rock but that rock is granite and it's the magma that would have erupted but never did and that's it's magma that froze underground and never got erupted so that's another way volcanoes volcanoes make rocks. We're talking with Dr Masumi Roy. She is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of New Mexico with specialty in Earth Science chance the children's hour is listener supported kids public radio produced by the Children's Hour Inc a nonprofit dedicated catered to producing high quality kids public radio. Learn more at children's our dot. Org Wolf is a proud supporter of the children's. Our meow of creates immersive experiences that transport audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic realms of story and exploration learn more at meow Wolf Dot Com Inch online on my knees I. The Shit is by the and The parents The line in the and The they wanted wanted In the wailing souls with Donovan's Mountain Song Right here on the Children's hour in the studio from UNM's Department Hartman of physics and astronomy. Dr Masumi Roy. Talking earthquakes and volcanoes still. Lots more questions for you are there volcanoes or earthquakes on other planets or asteroids. That's a great question. We think so we think the answer is yes certainly for volcanic corruptions and although we have not directly observed Earthquakes we have evidence that there are earthquakes and other planets units as well on other planets are the eruption of volcanoes necessary for life. That's a great question. You have asked the question that we in. The science field are only now beginning to understand are related that earthquakes volcanoes and plate tectonics might have something intimately to do with why we have say Water on the surface of earth and therefore why we have life We we don't really know whether life exists on other planets. We certainly are looking for it but we think that liquid water on the surface of a planet is a very good criterion for finding life on that planet. How do we measure it when we think there's GonNa be the next earthquake? Volcanic eruption one of the biggest challenges for earth. Science is the prediction of earthquakes We don't really have a good way to predict when the next big earthquake. Let's say would happen in California the way we think about earthquakes and where they're most likely is basically to look at where they've happened already. So based based on where we already see a lot of earthquake activity we then make calculations to say. How likely is it that an earthquake? What happened in a given region right so for earthquakes? There really is no way that we know to predict when the next big earthquake will be when and wear etc but for volcanic eruptions. It turns out that we can do a little better because volcanoes they produce signals that we can look at that tell us about an imminent eruption and one of the most important of these signals is defamation so the volcano starts to move the sides. The volcano can begin to move and you can observe that using gps or using other methods. And you can also look at gas emissions and you can look at earthquake activity around the volcano sometimes just before a big eruption the number of earthquakes happening near near that volcano goes up so all of this leads to a very scientific term called unrest but basically we look at the level of unrest. And that's how people can make predictions of when a volcano might erupt. When do you think the next volcano is gonNA be are there? Like any volcano erupted. Anything there are always volcanoes getting close to eruption and so you can actually go to In some of the websites that are maintained by the USGS and other agencies and learn about places that have had recent earthquakes. But also places where you're like I said before the level of unrest is rising and so those volcanoes are kind of under our watch and they're on a watchlist so do birth quake caused the Dhabi's that's a great question yes So earthquakes do costs Nami sometimes and what happens in in an earthquake is remember. There's of fault zone and two sides of the fault zone move and remember. The main thing that happens in an earthquake is that the motion is kind of sudden so that sudden motion if that happens underneath the ocean and it can suddenly move a whole bunch of water it can create Ada Swamy wave and so yes sometime soon armies get triggered by earthquakes so since we know what to be afraid of for volcanic eruptions options and earthquakes. How can we best prepare for in case we have a volcanic eruption or an earthquake? That's a good question that depends on where you live. So if you live in a place where You're far away from plate tectonic fault zones and you're far away from active volcanos there really. He is not much to be your frayed of And it might be that when you live closer to like an active fault zone and big active active volcanoes. The best thing to do is to learn about them and be prepared by listening to reports from the United States Geological Survey and other agencies agencies and often They'll tell you really good advice on you know things you can do for example to secure furniture and things like that but that that sort of precaution is only relevant in places where people are very close to fault zones like places like California so. I don't think get something that everybody in. The country has to be on high alert about Mount Tambora when it erupted erupted for three days sending uh-huh Chunks of rock half a mile out to sea and Drying tsunami waves three stories high crashing against the coastline and it also took a big chunk out of the mountain it was on so Volcanoes can drastically change in effect nature. And it can destroy the things. Yeah yeah they are really Impressive events and they can reshape the earth. Like you said that's really really true. And what's really remarkable is that they Essentially are probably the reason why the Earth looks the way it. It does the fact that we have so much liquid water the fact that our our atmosphere has the kind of gases it does. It's all intimately tied to the fact that we have a lot of volcanic activity on the planet. What I find really remarkable about them is that they're bringing material all to the surface from such deep levels and sometimes within that magma that makes it to the surface as lava you'll find evidence sense of the fact that these minerals have traveled a very very long distance sometimes hundreds of kilometers vertically upward? And that I find so so fascinating. can earthquakes and volcanic eruptions affect our weather. Absolutely so I don't know if you remember a few years ago so when there was a big volcanic eruption in Iceland and All these airplanes and airplane routes had to be essentially modified so that people would be safe and they wouldn't fly into the ash and smoke from the volcano so today if for big volcanic eruption happens that's the immediate one of the immediate hazards but then on top of that. All the material that gets sent out to the atmosphere can lead to changes in the atmosphere that can last over decades. Is it possible that like magma thrown from the bottom of the ocean like those tectonic plates is a possible the magnet the magma could reach the surface in like the end of a Su Nami or anything the magma magma that comes out as lava on the ocean floor reaches the surface on the ocean floor but then once it comes into contact with the seawater it cools so the likelihood of that magma and Erupting as lava and that lava making it to the air is low because that lava freezes almost as soon as it's in contact with the seawater but the chemicals in the lava mixed with seawater and then eventually that contributions to the air so there's always a connection am I correct if yellowstone erupted. It would cover almost the entire city of Albuquerque just to give people who are listening and idea. Yellowstone is very far away from Albuquerque. So I guess you're asking. Can you lie. Does a very far away volcano have the chance of having. Its sediments that it spews out land as far away as Albuquerque. The the answer is yes. When the big eruptions happened at yellowstone? We see evidence for that the ashes that rained out of the sky basically for that blanket the entire Western. US So you can see evidence of that eruption and in New Mexico. Even though we're so far away from yellowstone I've seen on youtube how like people play lava rock in a container container and then they like make it really hot like a couple thousand degrees that it will turn back to lava again. Yes absolutely there. There are some really great labs around the country where they do this and they studied. This is one way in which we can study. How lava flows for example? Because one the things that happens is once the lava gets to the surface. You Wanna be able to figure out where it's going to go. And whether it's going to pose a hazard to maybe people that live nearby buildings that might be nearby at Cetera. So that's why people want to study. How does love flow? What's the most interesting interesting or unknown fact about either volcanoes or earthquakes that interests you for me? One of the most interesting listing things about volcanoes how molten magma gets from very deep inside the earth to the surface and you know what we see coming out of a volcano maybe just a very small fraction of that and a lot of the magma. That makes it to for the shallow part of the Earth doesn't actually all get erupted. Only the most easily flowing ones Might make it out the top for volcano. So I like to think of this as The Earth as a system where material is moving from deep down towards I the shallow regions and I like to think of. How much do we see coming out the top and how much don't we see how much of the magma stays behind and I I would like to understand more of What controls that and you know are there are there differences in the rate at which magma is coming beneath breath? Say a really big volcanoes like Mount Saint Helen's or much smaller volcanoes where you might imagine they might be less magma coming per a unit time over long term like amounts of time could super volcano or large volcanic eruptions drastically drastically changed the shape of the earth. Not only could volcanoes a big super volcano. Do that but a huge earthquake can also do that. So Aw when when a synonymous genyk earthquake happens it's it is a huge. It can be a huge event and it can change the rate at which the earth spins around so you can measure you can measure the change in the length of the day after an event like a huge earthquake. What that just doesn't even seem possible? I think that may be one of the most shocking things you've said we've been speaking with Dr Masumi me Roy. She is a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of New Mexico with a special interest in Earth Science. Doctor Roy. Thank you so much for being with us on the children's hour today. This is so much fun. Thank you so much katy touch the ground. 'CAUSE it hot up hot love you go audio it being toes though the grout the hotdog duquet and invent go young. If you're trump trying Patten thirty protectate clouds say the gap but we hope to. I'm swinging from the pro. Nothing title Magma. Rock album growl causing in the children's hour is listener supported find out more. You're at children's our DOT ORG support for this program also provided by Bernallio County New Mexico. Burn Co dot in our MM-HMM Whistling time over the break boogie. woogie whistle and the never land pirate band hot lava from Jake and the Neverland Pirates. You're listening to the children's hour if you WANNA learn more about earthquakes and volcanoes. There's a lot more information at U. S. G. S. Dot Gov there you can find information about current alerts for volcanoes were hurricanes and of course you can find out more about earthquake preparedness. It's important to be prepared for an emergency. 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Arne Bernie gave the euro terrific it together creamy skin and marine key to is Sharon and Brahm from the very very latest CD just came out sharing and Brahmin friends and before that you heard the chardon Polka band with apples peaches. Pumpkin pie from EMMA CD called Pony in the back seat. Ralph covert open up that set from at the bottom of the sea. Many things to know you're listening to the children's is our according to the US Geological Survey the five most dangerous volcanoes in the United States both in terms of their likelihood of exploding bloating and their potential threat to human life and property are Hawaii's monk killilea Washington's Mount Rainier and Mount Saint Helen's Coghlan's Alaska's redoubt volcano and California's Mount Shasta. This is according to the two thousand eighteen update to the US geological illogical survey national volcanic threat assessment. It's the first such update from the USGS. Since two thousand five there are one hundred sixty sixty one young and active. US volcanoes listed in the report and eighteen are designated as very high threat. Thirty nine are listed as is posing a high threat and the remaining one hundred and four volcanoes had threat levels that were either moderate low or very low. The eighteen most was dangerous. Volcanoes in the United States are all in five states Washington Oregon California Alaska and Hawaii and the Super Volcano that we talked about earlier on the show the Yellowstone Caldera. It's ranked at twenty first on the list with a high threat level level. Even though it's potentially incredibly dangerous it's not doing anything at the moment to suggest that an eruption is imminent Alone a minimum of Kimberly Aloha Polo. A clinic. In me and nate mccay Fella who believe they may him Holand McKnight McCabe. Aw Uh well a any boob whom I gave him liquid. Michael Hindia here at me. He Ezekiel Makino Hilo and lay him. 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What Does A State Auditor Do?

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55:13 min | 2 years ago

What Does A State Auditor Do?

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I am Katie stone. Delighted to be with you as always on a Saturday on K U M for the children's hour. And we have a lot of folks in the studio. Let's start over here. Hi, this, Sean. Good morning gets Maya. Hi, this is what Anna? Hello. I'm liliana. Hi, I'm Warren high money supply. Hi deo. Hello everyone. It's so nice to have you all here. Welcome to the show and anybody have any good news, bad news. Any news in the studio. It's been a busy week. Yes. Chaban we had the selected date for when I get my braces off. And it's my next orthodontist appointment, which is what date March twenty eighth. We're all tired of braces for you on your behalf. Yes. Orange my cousin's birthday. Oh, what's his name Brechin Brechin Brechin happy birthday bracket? And how old is he Soren? He's turning three. All. Yeah. Today is my friend Elijah's birthday party. Allies that's going to be fun. I'm I I love birthday parties. I have a big birthday coming up this year. And I've decided I should have a party. Don't you think? Yeah. Everybody's agreeing and invite us. Okay, you're invited. Well, we are so excited because today on the show we're talking with somebody that is elected his name is Brian Cologne. Hi, brian. Good morning. Great to have you. We're gonna talk to you in a minute about everything you do in your job because those of us who are allowed to vote we vote for a state auditor in in elections. And I I had the sort of interesting discovery that like so many people don't really know what the auditor actually does. In this room. If you if you say, I don't know what he does tummy. I don't know what he does. Okay. If you don't already does anybody in this room. Now, I don't know. Adults. Don't even know what you do. And it's okay. The kids don't know what to do. But you know, his job is incredibly important, and we're gonna learn exactly what that is. This is part of our civic series. We're doing on the children's hour, and we're delighted to have our elected official, New Mexico. State auditor Brian Cologne in the studio with us today. Live on the children's hour. But before we go there, we're going to go here and thinking about numbers and all the great things. This is the great Bob Dorough from a CD compilation called songs for the car. Three his magic. Yes. It is. It's a magic. Somewhere in the engine mystic trinity. You get three has a magic. In the past and the present in the future vade in hope and charity, the heart and the brain and the body give you three as a magic. Takes three legs to make attract hot to make a table stand. It takes three to make vehicle called traffic. Every triangle has three cone trying who has three size. No, more known this. You don't have to guess when it's three you can see magic. Three six nine. Fifteen eighteen twenty one twenty four twenty seven. These. Fifteen twenty one twenty twenty seven. 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Welcome to the children's hour. Thank you, Katie stone. Not as delighted as I am to be here with these phenomenal young people. I love the children's hour. Oh, thank you so much. We love it too. And there's a lot of kids in the room. And we've been as you know, talking off the mic before not in front of the listeners. But trying to understand what an auditor does. And you learned even on the air. No one really knows what your job does. So we're going to start over here. Shivani gonna take our first question, and we have a lot of questions for you. So hope you're. Gone bring it. What is an auditor? What is an auditor? Well, that's a great question. Great way to open up the show, but an auditor someone who reviews financial transactions to make sure that they're done correctly and appropriately and what I mean by financial transactions at least in the office of the state auditor. It's an opportunity for our office to review how your taxpayer dollars are spent where I should say, your parents taxpayer dollars spent in government, and that's all levels of government. Whether it's our city council and mayor here at this level or state agencies in New Mexico, like health and human services, all the organizations and agencies in New Mexico that affect your lives are actually audited on an annual basis where we review the transactions and how they spend new Mexicans money in government. So. Kids have a lot of questions, but you made me think of another question, which is do you only audit government agencies is that your work is is to govern the government agencies? Sure. So my my scope and focus the office of the state auditor is to review and and take a look under the hood at any transactions that involve taxpayer dollars. We also on occasion will evaluate process to make sure that processes serving the people of New Mexico. So so say. So if taxpayer dollars go from. A because I seem to remember an auditor auditing things like charter schools and stuff that aren't necessarily run by the state, but because tax money goes to them. That's how come they can get audited by you. That's correct. And so if there's taxpayer dollars that are in an organization that we have the capacity to go in there and audit them and make sure that those taxpayer dollars are used correctly. You know, we like to say in our office every day, we get out of bed to protect New Mexico's taxpayers citizens and residents and the way we do that is by fighting waste fraud and abuse, and I think you in this room know, what waste is and fraud is when criminal activity occurs and people are actually stealing from New Mexico's tax payers and then abuses, just misusing the system. And so we fight every day for the tax payers, and the people of New Mexico to prevent from waste fraud and abuse what is the day like at work manna Dey in my life at work is phenomenal. It has been fifty three days of awesome in the office of the state auditor. We have phenomenal civil servants that were hard every day to protect each and every one of you. And there are few of us in the office that aren't passionate about serving our children in our community. And my days are very very robust. In fact, no two days have been exactly alike. So we have in our office and opportunity to bring it about thirty eight individuals to help lead and work in that office every day to protect you and to protect your families, and the people of New Mexico to make sure that we're delivering government in New Mexico that you deserve. And that's a government that enjoys its maximum potential to make sure that we are delivering efficient effective and good services t to you. So my day starts out. I go in the office. I leave Albuquerque here around five thirty in the morning. I'm an early bird. I get up every day anytime between four and five o'clock depending on what day of the week. It is and then I head north and we have in our office onset Leo's south city. So I don't have I don't have to go all the way into downtown Santa Fe. But we have a great office. They're in on settle ios and. I go in there. And it's nice and quiet, and I get my day started and review make sure that I'm caught up on my emails. Make sure that I have a good understanding of meetings. I've taken that day my executive team sets points where me, and it could be with individuals tax payers where people in New Mexico who are worried about waste fraud and abuse, and they wanna tell me where they're concerned. So you what I tell people is that they have to work with my office. If I'm going to be effective. So I'm out there. Looking for needles in haystacks, everybody knows what a needle in a haystack is right kind of hard to find. Really agreed right? So, but the way I see it is that when you and your families are out there dealing with government. Sometimes you go something here doesn't seem right. Get that weird feeling like something's wrong. This isn't working. There may be a problem. So what I like to have people say is I'm gonna call the office of the state auditor, and I'm gonna tell Brian Cologne. We've got a problem in Burnley oh county because when you do that you take me from looking for a needle in a haystack. You actually say we want you to look at that. Gala? Hey, right there, and you you you can bet your bottom dollar that. I'm gonna look at that bail. Hey, pull off a couple of flakes. Anybody have horses or deal with with with with. Hey, okay. Yeah. I Katie does katie's got a great place. She's got all kinds of great animals on property. She's had her phenomenal children helped raise those animals. And she knows what flick is off a Bill. A hey, we pull those flakes back and we look for waste fraud and abuse, and I can't do that alone. We audit about six hundred agencies and given year, but we're really looking for that needle in a haystack. But when tax payers when people in New Mexico say, Brian we're worried about this. Or we're worried about that. It helps me get my auditors to focus on a particular area. So I have a follow up question on that. Do you audit only when people say something is going on or do you oughta medically audit every agency Katie should do this every week? She's pretty good at questions. Don't you think? Right. Right. So so think of it. Think of it. It's a great question. We do the agencies and government entities. We do audit them on an annual basis, but we have the capacity to tell our independent public accountants that are doing those audits we want you to take a deeper dive into this area or that area. And we have a fraud hotline where folks can call in and say I'm concerned about this. Or I'm concerned about that transaction and that number is one eight six six say fraud. That's one eight six six say fraud. And we're real creative OSHA stands for office of the state auditor pretty creative right now. There you go. So we we love folks to call in. They can be anonymous that can be what we call whistle blowers and protected with that anonymity. So that if people are working in government, and they feel like something's going on in their office. It's not appropriate. They can call it that guy with red hair and freckles named Brian Kolonin. I can tell you we're gonna take that call and we're gonna look into it. So we want engage people with our office every day. When will you elected we go at the C that was just a little while ago, November sixth of two thousand eighteen I was honored to be sworn into office on January first at midnight midnight. I was sworn in was really humbled to be able to become the state audit of New Mexico after a long campaign in a hard-fought race in and received about four hundred thousand votes in New Mexico. And so every day when I start my day, and the reason it's been fifty three days of awesome. As I knew I've got a huge responsibility to all new Mexicans to make sure they can take pride in our office. So they can take pride in their government. Did you want to be auditor? Well, that's a great question, and it's very complicated answer. But at the end of the day when it's all boil down. It's like I've got a debt gratitude to my community. I am where I am because the community supported me on my journey, and for me one of the ways that somebody can repay a debt gratitude is service. And this was just a wonderful opportunity that presented to me where I felt like if the voters of New Mexico agreed that my finance degree in my almost twenty years of practice in the law was a good background to lead that office. I would stand up tall. And I'd say, yes, I will serve. And after folks called me and said, if I think about doing it, I thought, you know, when people call, and they ask you to serve it's almost always the right thing to say, yes. And I did just that we're speaking with New Mexico state auditor, Brian Cologne, and we're learning all about what does a state auditor. Do we have a lot more questions for you? But we're gonna take a little break. This is coming off. ED called daddy. Oh, daddy, rare family songs of Woody Guthrie and take a listen. Due to do. Ju ju. Above six eight, gene. Simply the host the home. Sabat contents could Dan to jute to to to. To to do. ABC's chief? Transient jump that. Big, man. Little man. Greenstone? Two two. Two two. Ketone to succeed. Can't hobby. To kid too. Kick to seventy eight. The Busek seven eight. Six. Eight. Five eight. Plenty of south. Ju ju ju ju ju. Daddy. Daddy is the name of that CD. Billy Bragg is given credit for that. Maybe that is Billy Bragg at a lot of people on that CD, though, the rare family songs of Woody Guthrie. That's the one two three four five six seven eight, and my guess here on the children's hour is that our New Mexico. State auditor, Brian Cologne uses all those numbers every day. We might just make that the theme song for the office of the state auditor bringing Woody Guthrie pointing out that would be great kinda gets. It gets you up and going. We are speaking with New Mexico state auditor, Brian Cologne, because we're all really didn't understand what an auditor does. And I serve as a lot of listeners and was pretty surprised that my most educated friends had no clue what the state auditor does. And with the exception of Pamela Herndon who gets gold star. She's a K UNM volunteer here. And she she knows what you do. And she's she's pretty good. Well, you know, why she knows what's what we do is. Because I tried to recruiter to come on board. Serving our office, the liver and into started, a nonprofit and doing really awesome work. And I love her shout out to you, Pamela Herndon, but so many questions from the kids in the studio here, we're gonna start over here with Maria. We were talking right before the break about how you were just elected. Just a you've only just been sworn in for less than two months of awesome. And so we know you're an elected position and Mercer. Here has a question for you. I stay auditors always elected Marissa's always got great questions and thanks for coming in his studio Mersa, so state auditors are not always elected. In fact, we don't even have the same title for this responsibility. In every state. We have some states that elect their state auditors. We have some states that have point. They're they're elected. Let's see some states elect their state auditors some states appoint the state auditor and another states they have what they call controllers and the controllers in their offices are the ones that take on the duties of the office of the state, auditor, New Mexico. So we are exceptional in giving the people of New Mexico voice in who they want to lead in this effort to fight waste fraud and abuse in New Mexico. So it's a great question every state's a little different. But I'm back. I'm looking forward to go. Meet the we have an association of state auditors, and I'll get to meet some of the some of my counterparts in other states figure out what their best practices are. And make sure that we're getting right in New Mexico because we are embracing excellence every day in the office of the state auditor, we can't had another question here about partisan politics. And I don't know anything about partisan politics. You were elected. You're lectured as a democrat. And so one question that we had was your. Yeah. Learn a- you wanna do it. Okay. Well, okay. I'll do. It. We were talking off Mike you're about what difference. Does it make if you're a Republican or democrat, you ran as a democrat someone ran against you as a Republican why what differences that make an auditor as a partisan position like that democrat or Republican? So that's a great question. And we consistently have a conversation in our politics whether judges should be in partisan races. Whether the state auditor should be a partisan race, the treasurer all these issues. But at the end of the day, we have the system that we have that this position is elected in partisan process. And I did run his democrat. And I was elected a democrat against the incumbent Republican who was appointed by by the immediate past governor. But, but here's the most important thing to remember, I say practically every day, Katie and my friends here in studio waste, fraud and abuse doesn't have a party affiliation. Those folks that make bad choices and steal from New Mexico's taxpayers or make. Bad choices and aren't efficient in government and doing the right thing every day that has nothing to do with politics. It has nothing to do with being a democrat or Republican what we know is. We've got now convicted felons in the last five years and some of those convicted felons who have abused New Mexico's taxpayers. They're democrats. And the Republicans say convicted felon just for kids here that means somebody broke a really serious law and probably had to go to jail. It's exactly right. And so it's very unfortunate. Right. And it it is a crime. And we know that some of those cases started in the office of the state auditor where we found that waste fraud and abuse, and we worked with the attorney general to make sure that we held them accountable. But sadly. You know party affiliation has nothing to do with people making bad choices it happens in every single party. And and every day we've got to get out of bed and say, look, this office isn't about democrat or Republican. It's about holding people accountable and fighting waste fraud and abuse, and that's what our team gets to myself. So if an auditor finds a problem, what do they do? So my ass. Great question. And if an auditor in my office finds a problem what we do is. We do a full investigation. We have we have several divisions in our office. But one of our cool divisions is the special investigations division. It's one of the smaller divisions. But it's super important are lead division is is the auditing division as you might guess right financial division that does and manages all those audits are independent public accountants that work with us every day. But in special investigation division, they work up the investigation, they work with our auditors to to check their work and do a deeper dive. And if we identify waste fraud abuse, particularly if that waste fraud and. Use turns out to be potentially criminal activity. We work with other governmental agencies to hold them accountable. And typically, those governmental agencies will be the district attorney's, you know, here in Burnley, accounting, we've got a great district attorney role Torres who's working hard every day. And if that waste fraud and abuse occurred here and bernallio county, we might work with him. But the other person I get to work with somebody who I hold highest deem as well. He's our attorney general and somebody who was formerly the state auditor of New Mexico. His name is Hector Balderas. So I work with the attorney general's office to continue the investigation, and they they bring their team on board to potentially prosecute because I have no prosecutorial authority, or what that means is I don't have the ability to take anybody to court and prosecute them. If they've made bad choices or committed crimes, but in fact, the district attorney's do and in fact, the attorney general's office. So we worked handing glove or side by side with each of those prosecutorial entities. And then they can actually people actually do go to jail for doing these kinds of crimes, but you know, it's prizes me. And I bet it surprises a lot of kids too. Because we always want to believe the best in people is that we even need to do this. It's sort of sad that humans can't always be trusted. Katie. I think you you bring up a great point. And if anything my office has to continue to educate me and say, look, Brian you cannot be naive. The things that we bump into in. This office will make your head explode because you can't believe that people make such poor choices. But here's what I tell people. I do see the best and others, and what I can tell you is that over the last twelve years, the office of the state auditor, and our last two elected auditors in particular have really done a great job of not only holding people accountable, but educating the public at large about how important this work is. And I have no doubt. Katie as I stand here today with these fantastic children our next generation of elected officials in the room. I have no doubt that today in the year two thousand nineteen that waste fraud and abuse is on the decline in New Mexico because people of New Mexico know that our office and the office of the attorney general and district attorneys around the state are willing to step up and say, we're going to hold you accountable. So don't even make those bad choices. I love it. This is our New Mexico state auditor, Brian Cologne, and he's been telling us what doesn't auditor do. Do. You all feel like, you know, now what an auditor does. Yeah. We went from knowing nothing to knowing so much right here on the children's hour. Listening to children sour. We'll be right back. Supporting our community means a lot to Albuquerque based K and Molly textiles, which is why they're proud to support. The children's hour podcasts. 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And then we'll let you be on your Mary way because we want you counting every we wanna make every second count for you. And we want we want adding up for us. So can you give me an example of waste fraud and abuse or my we're going to make this the speed round? So folks can ask as many questions as possible in this last segment, but let me give you just a couple of quick examples. You know, we talked about waste fraud and abuse not having a party affiliation. But we've got our former secretary of state who made some really poor choices with taxpayer dollars who ended up having to go to prison. We've got a former state Senator and one was a Republican was a democrat who made bad choices and was held accountable. We've got in terms of waste the great example that I love to talk about is our current mayor of Albuquerque. Former state auditor Tim Keller identified an opportunity to gather data regarding our our backlog in what we what are called rape kits. And that is something that is out there to protect survivors and victims who've been who've been raped, but there was a whole backlog of those kits around the state, and he gathered the data and he produced a transparency report. And with that transparency report folks made some good choices on how to address that. And so that's kind of waste fraud and abuse three examples where the office of the state auditor. And the attorney general's office were able to hold people accountable, and that that makes a huge difference in the real lives of people right now in New Mexico. We've another questions in the rim. I question. So sounds like you're doing a lot. Do you have a family, and how do you make time for them? What a great question. What a great question. So look, I I am so proud of my family. My my bride is an amazing woman. We've been married for twenty three years. She's a civil engineer with a masters in math in every day. She gets out of bed and goes and makes a difference in the lives of children, just like you. She teaches at van Buren middle school, one of our deepest pockets of poverty here in Albuquerque, and she changes lives every day, and she's working on her PHD. I couldn't be more proud, and I can't wait to call her doctor Cologne. And so that's my wonderful wife. And then my son is a product of Albuquerque public schools. He's a very proud Albuquerque high bulldog. He graduated a few years ago, and he's now on a presidential scholarship at George Washington University in D C and somebody earlier asked me, why do I do this? And why did I decide? To run. And frankly, I'm like so many people in New Mexico. Whether it's Katie or me, we all wanna make New Mexico a great place. So that our next generation people like my son off, I l make a decision to come back home and invest in New Mexico and raise their children here. Because that's our best legacy is the many generations of folks who have decided to raise their children in our state, and I wanna make New Mexico agreed state. So my son comes home, and that you all choose to raise your children here as well. How can our families and kids help the state auditors Greek question? So how can you help the state auditors? Well, number one when you hear your parents say something doesn't seem right here. You say, well, why don't you call that guy with all those freckles? I met him in Albuquerque at the children's hour with Katie stone. And until call the office of the state auditor one eight six six say fraud at one eight six six say fraud. And the other thing is you can help spread the word spread the word. Most people have no idea people that are two and three and four times your age to have no idea what the office of the state auditor does. But now each of you do so help be a champion for our office. And I want to tell you this. You have an open invitation each of you have my business card. It has my office address. You come up to something Fe, and you come to the office of state auditor, I'll make you honorary auditor for the day. We'll have become set up in my office. You'll get to meet my team. And it'll be just phenomenal time. We'll have a great time. I love it. You can learn a lot more about the state auditor. There is a a website. Oh, S A. An I think is what it is. But it's easy to Google. And find office of the state auditor, New Mexico, and you can learn a lot. We are also going to post all kinds of stuff along with podcast of this show. You can always find our podcast on Spotify. And I tunes, and you can follow us on social media and get links to all kinds of stuff where on Instagram and Facebook, and Twitter and auditor Cologne. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. It's early on a Saturday for a lot of people not for you. It's like the middle of the day for you. But it's a lot closer than, but we're just so glad that you took the time to explain your work because as an elected official. It's really important that people understand what they're doing when they elect someone, and you know, you've helped everyone understand more. Why this position is so important and what exactly you do? So it's been a super great honor to be here. You know, I'm a fan of the children's hour in fallen on social media for years and. I love the work that you do. Whether it's an educating people about the children that are on the autism spectrum and making sure that we support that work and keep that front of mine up favoring this session, or whether it's here at the children's hour where you bring in something nominal families and children to to help lead. These interviews and provide opportunities for young people to be able to work the board so to speak, and it's really awesome. I'm getting ready to leave now and go down to New Mexico where we have the first annual Carlos Odero memorial art show, and we're going to go down there, and we're going to look at some great Spanish, colonial art, and and just honor our traditions of New Mexico, and I couldn't be more honored. This is a phenomenal way to start my day here. Now Booker key then head down. But then then I'll officiate a wedding tonight here in the south valley in today's it's going to be a fantastic day. And I couldn't have been more honored than the started with the phenomenal young leaders in this room. So remember come on out allow me to serve new Mexicans by helping us fight waste fraud and abuse I wanna give. The last shout out to my team. We've got phenomenal civil servants that work every day get out of bed everyday show up at work. They were hard forty hours a week plus to protect New Mexico's taxpayers, frankly, when I show up people hand me a microphone, and then they start applause, but the folks that are in my office working every day that are just civil servants. They're not in politics. They're just out there every day working hard. And I wanna say I'm grateful for them. I applaud them, and I'm honored to stand with them in this fight at the office of the state auditor. Thank you, Katie. Thank you, so much New Mexico state, auditor, Brian Cologne. Learn a lot more follow us on Instagram where posting a lot of stuff right now. In the meantime, this is Mr. g from CD, call Choko, LA, LA LA. Today's one-two-three KOMO fattest thing with me. Face onto three come on Batta sing with me. Jam and today this them were on way. What simple say small five and six. One two three on Battiston. Onto three. Persson God say's. Two six just run. Please get to more. Dan in a minute. One two three. One-two-three Gladys singer. 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He was born in eighteen sixty eight in western Massachusetts and boys was an American civil rights leader philosopher writer, and peace activists, and he was the first African American to earn a PHD from Harvard University. He was once quoted as saying the cost of liberty is less than the price of repression and February is black history month and the New Mexico. Black history organizing committee has some all ages events coming up the ongoing even past February and you can find all of their schedule at 'em black history month dot com. But why are we focusing on black history at all well because? Black American history is all of our history, and it's routinely overlooked when learning about this great nation of ours. Our country was one of the last countries in the western world to abolish slavery in eighteen sixty five and we had over three hundred years of slaves building, our nation's wealth road cities towns these people worked without money. They often had their children taken away their parents taken away and we're treated as if they were just property. This only ended in the United States slavery and eighteen sixty five officially, but the fight is still ongoing for equal treatment. And sometimes there's battles between that that non black people don't even know exists like the fight to be allowed your freedom of hairstyle. So the New York Times reported this week on the soon to be released guidelines regarding. Regarding hair discrimination in the city of New York. The city of New York's commission on human rights has a new guideline regarding how every business and government in the city of New York will need to treat hair, and the quote is this natural hair, treated or untreated styles such as locks corn rows twists braids Bantu knots. Fades afros, and or the right to keep hair and an uncut or untrimmed state will not that is what is going to be permitted victims of discrimination hair. Discrimination can collect damages up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in addition to forcing whatever the company is to have policy and hiring changes that are breaking these guidelines. These guidelines are the first of the kind in the nation. There is no legal precedent in federal court or protection for the protection of hair, according to Carmella and malay-, Molly OSs the. Mission the of the chair and the chair of the New York commission on human rights, and she went on to say, quote, there's nothing keeping us from calling out these policies prohibiting natural hair or hairstyles. Most closely associated with black people they are based upon racist stereotypes of appearances and they perpetuate reach racist. Stereotypes that say black hair styles are unprofessional or improper, you know, black people have faced hair discrimination in the workplace in government jobs and elsewhere, the New York Times article said, quote, there's long been a professional toll for those with certain hairstyles. Eighteen percent of the United States soldiers on active duty are black. But it is only in recent years that our own military dropped the prohibition on hairstyles associated with black culture hair. Discrimination happens in schools kids have been turned away even recently from schools for having dreadlocks or corn rose and have been reportedly disciplined or targeted and harassed over. There. Hairstyle the struggle for civil rights is ongoing. But today, our nation is Browning self identified. White people used to be ninety percent of our population in nineteen forty but in two thousand and ten in the census white people were only seventy percent of the population. 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October 22  Hour 1  CSU Vs. NM | Nugs Eyeing Jrue Holiday | Kelly Lyell

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October 22 Hour 1 CSU Vs. NM | Nugs Eyeing Jrue Holiday | Kelly Lyell

"Just WanNa get radio. I want to get right to the big story. Of the day. Out that. Story Music right there. it sounds like Ballerina. It sounds like Ballerina I mean the only one. So now, the Denver Nuggets will play in ball arena as part of A. Casey, KFC Kroenke Sports and Entertainment Ball Corporation Global Partnership Ball Corporation for those that don't know supplies innovative sustainable packaging solutions for beverage personal care and household products. Man. I think. What, what is why am I blanking out on Cortex? What does the Bronco Stadium called? Empower there you go. I I still don't call it. That do you empower I thought that was a weird name. Now this is weird. I don't I'll be real honest with you. I don't trust the whole against. Are Great Loyal Fan base. To to handle this responsibly. I really don't trust you guys in fact I was looking forward to this today. I'm looking forward to what you guys come up with kind of wish this was a top text. Tuesday. But it's not it is a Thursday of course, Thursday's the best day of the week here on the whole show because. I make my pick I'm rarely wrong. And looking forward to it. Giants Eagles that should be just flat out amazing first offenders text line three, one, nine, nine. Three one, nine, nine, six, so. It's and. It sounds like Ballerina Colefax. I don't know what part bothers me the most the fact that it's ball arena. or it sounds like Ballerina. Really Weird for me. The partnership includes naming rights for ball and KFC's hometown. Area in Denver, Colorado home to the NBA Denver Nuggets Nhl's Colorado Avalanche Els Colorado mammoth, and also home to family entertainment and concerts. So the Pepsi Center Man. That's that really grew on me. I used to like you know mcnichols arena and now it's then it was a Pepsi Center. People say nuggets heat down at the CAN. Which I thought was funny Now, it's going to be I can only imagine what Hogan's are GonNa come up with on this. When I was really the can because ball makes cans. Yeah. That's what they do. Yeah that's true. So I guess you could still call up call the CAN. How about bowl bowl ad ball arena. Yeah that's be fun or the nutcracker. Thanks. Now you've just put it in. All the whole against heads that they can make fun of this name. Let's get it kicked. Let's get this thing going ball and areas new job. Every time I hear I hear. Lavar Ball's voice in my head. Of Our ball. So we need to try to make that deal work apparently. So yeah, you just hear Lavar. His what wwe thing that he was wasn't either ww for a little bit like he did one night. That listen it's a paid deal I I don't I make fun of them but. I do the same thing. If I was in that situation. How many are you act? How many of you are going to actually call it? Ball arena how how? I just can't get over that. It sounds like Bal-. Ballerina. I just can't get over that but dick, but new has lavar ball in his head A. Better than me. And I'm both of Okay Okay made sense I love that. That's the best. To do better than the EMMYS, both of them, that's that's like my favorite line in anything that's ever happened. We need to have more more lines like that. I of is text line three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine, nine, six, fund show today we'll have Kelly lyle of the Fort, Collins. Colorado. And Niko medved will join the program Colorado State Men's. Thank you Susan Carroll. Your. Delight. We'll have issue men's basketball coach. Niko medved. Our power to play sports poll question of the day is, do you think that the? Rams basketball team will make the making a big to march madness. Big Dance if you will. Yesterday, we talked a lot about you and actually even Wyoming I don't think we should tell Nico that we had jeff lender on the program. I think they're kind of friends though. So maybe it's different but bad blood Wyoming, Colorado state bad blood I'm Kinda surprised at the whole against here. Sixty six percent of the Hogan's. Are saying, no, the Rams men's basketball team will not make march madness this season win they win twenty games last year. If in order for the mountain west to get like an at large bid and again I, don't know what this looks like just yet. We don't have the non conference schedule. For. Colorado state just yet so How many games are you going to have? That's going to be that's going to be a big question to how many actual games because you know I always thought twenty. Was a good way to get in. But now it feels like it's more like twenty, four, twenty, five winds or obviously you win your conference tournament. But for the mountain west, actually get a few at large bids you know they're going to have to. Have the Rock in their non conference schedule and you gotTA see a couple of teams in the you know the mid twenty. Outside of just Just. winning. The conference, tournament. I don't see why not I mean. It's hard to do. It seems easy enough, but it is definitely difficult to do. You know see us you was rolling. Late in the season and they listen they were one of the best teams in the mountain West Conference. When the season was kind of ending. And they hit a couple of walls, and then of course, they lose to Wyoming in the first round. So I mean that was difficult for this team. But state you know. Another year of experience no Nico Carpaccio. Which is certainly going to be a big deal for Colorado state. They're gonNA miss his rebounding. They're gonNA miss his leadership. Just everything that he brought to the table. Sensational player certainly going to go down as one of the better Colorado State basketball players of all time. But the thing is. Where we thought it was just going to be about Nico Carpaccio to start the season it turned out to be about everybody else. Is Stevens came on. Utah Roddy I, mean some of these players were just. Amazing. So I'm curious to get your thoughts on that goes the whole show dot com to vote. And let me know what you think. Stephen dossier talked yesterday head coach of for. Colorado state. Colfax his the first question to him was you know. What was your immediate reaction? Once you heard this game was canceled and? Here's where he wet. Just quickly trying to see if we could find another game. Trying to find out what maybe teams across the country is there anything we can do could we practice against somebody playing games scrimmage something you know because we put all this work in and kids are dying to play here we are empty handed. So that was kind of what went through our mind initially, and then once we figured out, we couldn't seem to get anything put together as on the Fresno. On the Fresno. Who is he trying to play? That's what I WANNA know. said it pretty difficult other than going local here here's the here's the second half of that answer we're looking at best I don't say but you know we thought might have a chance with. It so hard you know unless there's somebody really local it's really hard you talking about getting plane and took them a whole lot of stuff that goes into all that. So once that was vetted out pretty quickly was. We shifted gears we had command we anymore. So practice state washed our practice tape, shifted gears, and. Put, on Fresno here we. Go. Read between the lines Colefax. The lampkin. Yes. Or Wyoming twice now, they're gonNA play Wyoming twice or UNC who's doesn't have season. He's he basically said it's impossible unless it's local. I can only think of a couple of local teams. That they're playing and they're already playing air force. They're already playing Wyoming. So, who would it be Kovac? The bus. Yeah. Nice Yeah. But the boss apparently didn't WanNA play ball. Arena. Sorry. Can Do that a few times today. Oh, I love it I, love that name I hate it and love it all at the same time. It's not the worst. It's not the worst, but it's okay. That's a good question. We'll do the second hour empower field or ball arena. WHAT'S BETTER I I gotta go and Power Field. It doesn't sound like A. Dancer. So I'M GONNA go with empower field. Although that sounds a little still sounds weird. It's making canvas stadium sound. Amazing to be honest with you. Colfax it I mean we. Had starting to call at the more now I didn't think I would but I'm getting their new stadium. Yeah. No. Just call the new stadium anymore. When do you stop calling the stadium the new? Stadium? Twenty years. Yeah Still call the Bronco Stadium The new stadium invest the newer one. Yes some people are staunch on it and still call Mile High. But mile high was torn down. Yeah. It doesn't doesn't exist. It was torn down. So then INVESCO came in what was Invesco then it was sports authority field. Then it was Bronco Stadium for for like second to like find a partner and now it's empower field retirement. Yeah, or empire. POWER RETIREMENT FIELD AT Monaco high. So. Boy Boy they technically it's Cain canvas stadium to Sonny lubick field right. So maybe empower gave a good deal to John Elway he does retire. Up. Future. So What about ball ball arena they do cans and stuff that don't they just call it ball center. It all sounds awful it. All sounds absolutely awful. The partnership also takes ball and KFC's growing relationship to the next level reflecting a shared vision for the future of the Global Sports and entertainment. Industry. Cool here's what. Mike, Sealy KS e senior vice president said about it. The announcement is an extension of a relationship that began between Ball Corporation and K s e a year ago with the introduction of their. Recyclable Aluminum Cup tm that opened the door to this incredible opportunity that builds on the importance of aluminum packaging recycling. Working together, we believe this partnership. Will be transformative and help redefine the way arenas and stadiums operate globally. So a bigger picture we are also grateful for PepsiCo's dedication to elevating the fan experience at Arena for over twenty one years and through ongoing official beverage partnerships with the nuggets avalanche mammoth, and now ball arena. D-. Do they do they still have Pepsi then? Sure they do not. So you can't get Pepsi there. You're you're not gonNA be able to get Pepsi. Ouch ouch. That would be a big deal. I'm sure you'll still be able to get Pepsi. Colefax. But. I still I mean I really liked the name. Of course, it used to mcnichols arena than they tore that down put Pepsi Center Open. You know I, just liked the name fit it kind of fit but now I don't know how I feel about. Seventeen minutes after yeah. Let's I. Want to get your thoughts on this. How do you feel about? Lawn stor ball arena. How do you feel about it? What do they call it lunch arena? Be That'd be okay. Yeah. That'd be fine. I can handle that with no problems you. Think they're still going to serve Pepsi there. I hope they do they better serve something there after that after the name like that. Or empower field. Empower Field Yeah I think Baen read it just GonNa take a while to kind of get used to that one. China it does that's what it sounds like. Merriman. Macarena or something like that. You know. Yeah. Strange. Well, what do you eat for lunch today lost her Just had a bowl of beef stew. In some Ritz, crackers and tomatoes and lot of hot sauce to put into. Beef stew yesterday. On me here. What did you have yesterday? I, forgot. What did I have? It'd be. Double Down and. It was leftover. It's OK leftovers are all right. It's. Part Right. There is leftovers I love leftovers I do too. Yeah. Monster. Appreciate you pay for sure. Ball arena can't get passed in nineteen minutes after the hour we'll take a short break here. Are. The nuggets really interested in drew holiday. Do you see something happening there and what would that take for the nuggets to get a deal like that done I'm I've been told Joker Murray and M pj are untouchable everybody else might be fair game if you could bring a guy. Who's averaging nineteen points per game six point seven assists per game and is actually a really good player. Here's the thing though. That he's got a player option twenty, twenty one. And Twenty twenty two. So if you sign him, you might have to be prepared for him to walk after that or you have to have to pay a lot. All right nineteen minutes after the hour we'll have a lot to talk about. Joins program later on Niko medved see issue men's basketball coach looking forward to that and drew lock is comparing himself to someone. We'll find out who next. Code now. Weekdays at four northern Colorado's voice. Thirteen ten, Kfi K.. Dan. Patrick. The Whole Show and Colin Coward a northern Colorado's voice thirteen ten Kfi K.. Hey this is Mike roark. You're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten KFI. Oh. Boy Is that is that what? They're going to be the song plays when you walk in I hope so. It's This gotTA. Make National News here. I would imagine this. I is this. Yeah. So Weird Colefax I. I can't get past that what you're playing there that obviously. HAS ENTERED THE BRAIN But the Ballerina thing is, what is what's getting me here? I, can't seem to. I can't seem to get past it. Song is all about like a like a party like a ball ballroom. Oh Oh. I didn't know that. Yeah. So that's throws he just has a bunch of. The biggest. Yeah like Cinderella going through exactly go into a ball. Going to. The ball we're going to the ball, we gotta get Cinderella to the ball. It's going to be a ball. I mean how many bad? How many I'm surprised at how many bad. How many bad puns can we get out of this thing? Surely, there's a lot more out there than this. Don't call me Shirley. I finished. Three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine, nine, six. Yeah. Everybody wants the nuggets to go after. Mr Ball now and get him over here. Your thoughts on this one. Are. We might switch it our power to play sports questions. Do you think the rams will go dancing this year but we might have to say, what do you think of? What do you think of the name like it's so bad that we make so many jokes about it maybe it's good. You know the knock on canvas. Stadium. Remember that was it sounded like Kansas Kansas Stadium. So I think we've Kinda gotten past it. I've gotten over it a little bit but. Still kind of still still sounds kind of like. Kansas. Should should the nuggets grafter Lonzo ball now? Get everybody that's the last name ball game over there. No I don't think so. That we could bring. Lavar ball over here is. Better than me and I'm both. Still, the best ever. Would you like to see the nuggets get aggressive and go after jrue holiday of the PELICANS. Kind of an underrated player, but he is really good. averaged. Nineteen points per game last year six, point seven assists. He was drafted back in I think two thousand thirteen. Reported according to Denver STIFFS DOT COM about ten teams are very interested in jrue holiday. And one of those teams being the Denver Nuggets. I mean that that's the move right? You make that move and I don't know how you don't consider the nuggets a favorite or at least. Close again. That's also I feel like the nuggets are. A favourite next year I really do ESPN came out. Yesterday and said the ranked fourth. Rankings. We've been seeing. So I, I'm curious your thoughts there 'cause it's GonNa cost you something you know. Joker Murray. And Porter I'm told are the three untouchables they don't they're not gonNA they're not even toy with that at all. But. What kind of package deal could you get now? Here's here's why it's. Interesting for the PELICANS, why would they get rid of a guy like that to even make them somewhat legit? Well, they're going to have to rebuild here and if holiday doesn't give them any sign that he's going to re sign with them because he's got a player option after this season. So. You know it's kind of like the Carmelo. Anthony Days Right. You're mellow basically told the nuggets here's the deal guys. I'm leaving at the end of the season. I'm not taking an option I'm gonNA resign somewhere else. Might as well. Try me now the Knicks or maybe a playoff team and might as well try me now essentially in nuggets did it and because of that trade. DENVER, was able to sustain a successful, fairly successful playoff team her going just a team I should say they just went to the playoffs for for several years after that piecing together Diogo Nari Wilson Chandler Raymond Felton, Timofey, Mas Gov in fact, joe-marie is kind of a part of that whole deal because of the draft that the nuggets got in that trade. So that's why the PELICANS would probably look to move on here because. They're not so sure that he would even even resigned. So that's GonNa be a tough one. Swamy. It's a miracle at the Ballard, the Ballerina Ballerina broadcasters and Chris Marlowe. Boy. I Dunno that's pretty good. What do you got for me to text line I events text line three, one, nine, six, three, one, nine, nine, six Chicago Rocky Mountain Oysters Arena. That's Yeah Boy, on that note, thank you for that new. On that note, let's get the latest on the local sports flash here MORNINGS WITH GAIL weekdays six to nine and northern Colorado's voice thirteen ten KFI K. Next is your UNC bears head men's basketball coach, Steve Smiley, and you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten KFI gay go bears. Welcome back we're live from the collision specialist studios. Thanks for being with us here today on this Thursday afternoon joining me on our first hotline Kelly Lyle from Fort Collins Colorado and our Sushi Rams insider Kelly. News, I think we kind of expected at the beginning of the week after hearing everything going on with new. Mexico. But obviously, that news hit a couple of days ago. where the rams get pretty aggressive trying to find another another game this weekend. That's that's hard to say Colorado state wouldn't make a athletic director Joe Parker available to discuss it further like I wanted yesterday after Steve Adagios said they were. Looking for other opponents I don't know how how aggressive research. Each mom was talking. To their opponents sure he was making some phone calls contact and some people he knew that might have been might have been available you know and and ultimately they determined there just wasn't a wasn't a feasible option to get a different opponent to come play a canvas stadium this weekend, and then by you know by that evening, they moved on all preparations were for Fresno state. Thursday, which is now the scheduled opener. Again, we will always use the term schedule because we know how quickly these things can change. Yeah. No doubt about it. Now, in the press conference I was listening to the record zoom portion of that with coach Adagio yesterday and he said something along the lines of. She's very difficult unless it's like a localized game. So obviously, my brain goes to their. Friends to the south there in boulder if there was any kind of phone call, do you think I mean again I'm asking you and just do you think That issue reached out to see you to see if they could get that rocky mountain showdown revive. You know I don't know if they did or not because the pack twelve. Thing. Plan to come back did not allow for any games prior to the weekend of November seventh for any schools. So I don't think the pack twelve would have permitted Colorado to play that game. Even if it wanted to I'm not sure what level of interest Colorado would have had to play a game knowing that it was a little bit behind Colorado state in preparation as well So I be surprised if that ever became anything more than a, you know Kinda like us talking about it or people on Twitter I. Certainly saw talking about it, I don't know if any formal thing was ever made because I think Colorado have to jump through a lot of hurdles within its own conference. I'm certain there are other teams in the PAC twelve that would like to play some game sooner than that date that the conference said that the conference was very clear on a conference only season zero non conference games starting on this date ending on this date. So I don't think there would have been a whole lot of flexibility for Colorado even. Yeah. Coach, Karl Durell, Athletic Director Rick George and other powers. It'd be at the university would have been wanted to happen I still don't think it could happen. I'm not sure how much they would've wanted it to happen because I think they would've felt like they might be coming in at a competitive disadvantage. How realistic would would phone call have been to the University of Northern Colorado obviously UNC schedule they're looking at spring with the rest of the FCS but Kelly was that even been any kind of a thought. I couldn't imagine that UNC ramp up practices and and and it's program and even get players to campus get geared check down there they are. Again, they are practicing but. Just not full-bore but yeah, they are practicing. I assume they're doing more off-season type stuff but I don't know I haven't checked I. Think you're right but I just thought it was interesting when Adagio said, you know without being local it makes it very complicated. So of course, mind just goes to WHO's who you know who else would there be to contact locally that you're not already playing. Right and that that gets complicated and that's why you know there was some early speculation last week when people were saying that they could see this happening that UNLV may not be able to play it scheduled game APPs against San Diego State, and at San, Diego states new temporary home in Carson California this weekend because of covid cases within its program. So there was some talk. About. Well, what the mountain West just match Colorado State against, San Diego State what would that take and and I did ask Steve Adagio about that. He said that would be a tough one because one of those two teams that were planning to play at home what all of a sudden have to travel they'd have to get hotel rooms they'd have to get a charter flight And that would make tougher. So I think what he was what Steve Adagio was reluctant for was another team that was supposed to travel for a game somewhere anywhere. And their game had maybe been called off because of covid cases concerns with the team they were supposed to go play thinking. Well, that's a little easier. You get the charter flight to come to a different city. We could probably help them get set up with the hotel that New Mexico was going to use the charter. Bus. Service New Mexico was going to use or even see us you has its own charter bus service that operates on campus. It might have been a little more feasible that way they're just when I looked at the ESPN schedule, then you know of all games in the country yesterday this is the only game that has been canceled so far this week so that there weren't any of those options. Out. There like there may have been two three weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. No question about it. Just even even the idea of trying to schedule an an opponent short week, it seemed really unrealistic size actually kind of shocked Kelly to hear that they were even going that route or they even considered going that route because everything you just mentioned just seem so complicated to try to stitch together a game. Yeah. I think. So but we have seen some games and other conferences that happen stitch together on short notice like that where they've decided on a they've re change the schedule on a Monday and a team you know come in and played somebody else on Saturday. So we have seen a little bit of that going on. We've also seen some that have tried that, and then those subsequent games have been canceled as well. So I think everything it's kind of just such a unique situation this year that all things around the table and really you know Colorado state was counting on game season, and now the best they're probably going to get a seven game season and So I think that's a disappointment for the coach for the Players for the coaching staff it's not only one less game. It's one less game period and you know and who knows what's going to happen with those other seven I. Mean every week is going to be a little bit of a precarious situation or C- conferences all over the country where games are having to be cancelled postponed. The Mountain West doesn't have any room for postponement. That's the thing, these three four conferences that came into it. Later, that were originally going to go spring the PAC twelve, big ten, mountain west, and mid American conference. They don't have any margin to postpone games because they scheduled to play every single week in a very short window a time to be done in time for December nineteenth type weekend championship game so. You know their choices either played or cancel it. There's no postponing it. Yeah, that's what makes it difficult in any Kelly in your world have you heard anything about Fresno state. is there a reason for rams fans to start getting excited about that game or is there a reason? To maybe pump the brakes a little bit. You know I have not heard of any direct specific concerns about Fresno state's I am curious because there is yet to be a college football game played in the state of California this season with the PAC, twelve going two more weeks all the Division Two's division threes and a as postponing till spring. I, there is not been a game in the state plate yet. So there were three scheduled this weekend, all mountain west teams hosting. St Hosting. A game at Carson against unlv San. Jose. State is playing a home game Fresno State's supposed to play Hawaii at home this week So we'll see as so mean as of now the state states and counties are all in line with those things happening but we do know that throughout this pandemic California's restrictions have been a little tighter than some other states as far as walking down things restricting practice ability you know San Jose state couldn't get permission from its county to practice. So they sent the entire team up to another CAL state campus on the extreme Northern Coast Arcada? Cal State Humboldt the practice. For a week and a half before bringing it before they finally got clearance to practice in Santa Clara. County return so. Everything's you know up in the Air I would say this game seems more likely as of this point than the New Mexico game did as of this point a week ago. But who knows what could happen between now and then we haven't seen testing results Colorado state's supposed to actually get me some testing results today. I. Haven't seen him yet as to what they've seen so far in their three times a week testing and we'll just see where it all goes but every school in the conference is doing this. In the conference in a different county facing different county public health orders. There are a lot of different states involved in their own public health orders. That's what released shut down the New Mexico game had nothing to do with the team itself. It was a statewide public health order from the governor's office that they lost their exemption to play college sports because they're county Bernallio county had a rapid rise in cases. Yeah. Now, you're seeing Quickly here why they're? Doing the best win percentage get you into the to the conference championship game because yeah. Now it's going to be and maybe not a question of how many games a team will win but how many games a team will actually play. Yeah and I think we're GONNA see that and I think it's going to happen probably in the PAC twelve and big ten. We're going to see some of those to the mid American, all these conferences and like I said they. In their efforts to be the safest of everybody and postpone in some ways they put themselves in a more precarious position by not playing the season as originally scheduled like the other six F. S. conferences we're doing because they now have no margin for error. They have no ability to say you know what? It's not safe for these teams to play this week but I think we can get him on this date November when neither of them have a scheduled game and reschedule it then the mountain west, these other conferences don't have that luxury anymore. So it's going to be canceled or play. There's no postponements. Yeah. We'll keep our eyes out for it certainly, and we'll see if we see issue game. Next week we're we're looking forward to that'll be a Thursday right. Don't they have four Thursday games this season? They have four scheduled. This season again, the key word and Yeah. We'll see what happens I mean this is going to be a little strange 'cause Kevin Lytle, and I travel to road games normally and we will be going to. We have corporate travel restrictions right now that won't allow us to go out there if the game is played, so we'll be covering it remotely backward curious if the TV crews will be remoter in person Kevin's checking into that. Now it's going to be very different oral here for a while. So we'll just see how things go. Doubt about it. Kelly appreciate you man and we'll catch up with him. Well, we'll look forward to talk to you next Thursday and maybe we're talking about a game and maybe not. Maybe. And who knows maybe my company will change policies and I'll be talking to you from Fresno. That's not likely. Yeah. Well, we'll keep in touch my friend appreciate you and we'll talk to you soon. Kickoff tonight. That's Kelly Lyle. Yeah, pretty unrealistic to think you could have got a game I. I don't know because they found out what was it Tuesday? It was Tuesday we found out so that would mean. You'd have to get something scheduled that day like you'd have to figure it out because that's going to give you Wednesday Thursday and you see practicing but it's more just getting into the workout mode that kind of thing kind of like what they would be doing in the spring or summer. But, yeah, they're together I. Mean I don't know how intense those practices are that one was more of a far fetched thing. In one thing we've learned with Cova is as much as these coaches say they need all this time to prep all this time to prepare. The NFL did away with their preseason and somehow Colfax they're playing football games. You know we college they're they're finding away to. You know short week short practices that she was Kinda shutdown practicing for a few weeks when they were in the investigation and Cova and all that yet they were. Still Ready to go for this game this weekend. How this Colfax, the NFL could move the super bowl all the way into March if games keep getting postponed, basically give more makeup dates for these team for these these teams if you start seeing what you saw with the titans. Yeah you you might have a few more games that are getting postponed moving the playoffs. The Super Bowl is going to give it's GonNa give you more weeks to play with still GonNa be strange though because if you do stretch out those weeks. And teams that didn't play they rescheduled for that week those four weeks in between the playoffs and the season what are the teams doing that didn't have to postpone you sitting there twiddling your thumbs for. Four weeks, they try to play out the rest of the season I mean again, if that's what it is if it's two. Four Games right I mean. Is. It realistic to think teams are going to miss. Collectively up to four weeks worth of games where you know I for some teams you know you combine them at that point because again, the it worked out for the Broncos I mean they didn't like it because it made them take a bye week when they didn't realize they were in a bye week. But it worked out with the way their opponents set up it's not always going to do that. It's not gonNa work like that all the time I mean now you've got the raiders. They're kind of an. Interesting situation right now with their covert. So you're GonNa this quite a bit. It makes sense that the NFL could push it out. But of course, my the question for me is. If you don't if you didn't postponed any games and you're trying to make games two three or four weeks what are those teams doing are playoff teams? Because you could say that momentum's absolutely shot because you could go three or four weeks without play forty, nine minutes after the hour we're GonNa take a quick break. Power to play sports question. Do you think the issue rams men's basketball team will make it into March madness we're GONNA. Talk to see head coach Niko medved on the program also drew locks in the news made an interesting comparison. We'll talk about that next. From UNCC, wouldn't see as you two the nuggets, rockies and Bronco. Hall's show is Colorado's sports talk show and thirteen ten KFI K. and thirteen ten K. K. dot com. No Code now. Weekdays at four, a northern Colorado's. Thirteen ten. KFI, K.. Hey, this is Ryan Koenigsberg Broncos beat writer for PS and Denver, and you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten. KFI K.. Welcome back. We've got our power to play sports poll question a lot of Rams fans chiming in on this one I'm also on Ram nation, and so I connect with a lot of rams fans there. Do you think? We'll make it to the big dance now. Depends on which poll you're looking at Fan cited had. Issue finishing as the top as sixteen as number six in the conference even with even with the way they did last year I. Think you're going to be better than that but you do have tough teams obviously you look at. I mean, Nevada's going to be replacing a Lotta guys. They were really good. They lost four of their starters. Utah State. Probably going to be pretty good again. Of like, we talked about yesterday Wyoming gave him a heck of a run. Fresno state should be should be pretty good at this stage their return in a few a few of their guys obviously, they're junior. Devon gauge is pretty their sophomore should say, D- engages pretty good. Junior Ballard, another junior so they should be pretty good to fresno say I mean competition in the in the conference will be good. Boise state should be. You know should pick up right where they left off. So I could see why the rams or maybe around six I might go a little bit higher. UNLV maybe going to be decent. Over Colorado. State and then obviously San. Diego State. Will be the best team in the conference at least on paper at this point at this point I events text line three, one, nine, nine, six, drew lock. You gotTa love what Drew Lock. Said Colefax he He basically said, Hey, you know what? I have. No problem. I have no problem because it's his hometown I can't he Kansas City. He's from there. He said it is cool. I'll say that it's cool to be able to put the darth vader mask on steer away from the Jed eye income to the darks. Help me take. This masterful. Can Stop. Just, once. Thank. God You with Mine Own. there is drew vader now drew lock is A. Lock. 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Kids & Screens

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Kids & Screens

"Thank you to our patriotic listeners. If you haven't yet become a patriotic supporter go to Patriotdepot DOT COM slash. The children's hour. Why were there a thousand moths on the window? I getting their screen time. How our no fine the ear intellectual confronted playing back hours out here and I can't watch TV? Oh from Joel. It drives me nuts when the won't behave. No yes Katharine Moon. Rail Big Stars overhead cable able. Paul don't seem that gain watch. TV and it breaks my heart all missing Bolan shows whole aspertain aspertain how those on the track deed near debt stuff reenacted. Where'd go to talk to strangers interviews with hockey players? How to lose a found on-demand and make big bucks me rolling in shopping? Gladiator shares makeup. Roller Skaters is does fall. GUSTA PSYCHIC PSYCHIC network. Don't you feel bad for me watch. TV aggie memorial big cable. Don't say that I can't even watch TV. Tom Don't say that I watch. TV Ciro Wheeler with TV from a CD called Mrs Poochies Guitar. A nineteen ninety-five release Broadcasting from the sunspot solar studios. Right here in Albuquerque New Mexico. This is the children's hour and I am Katie stone and we're here with a Lotta great people. I'm delighted to see so many kids here today. And including hello my names Maya. Hello Seven Hi Lucas Heights Nathan. Boosting your lewd. Hello Donna Bella. Hi It's Maya. Well you guys is today on the show. We're GONNA be talking about screen time now since I could ask you. How many of you have your own screens and you could raise your hand but nobody could hear that on the radio so you have to answer? How many of you have your very own screen of some kind of an ipad or a phone or something like that? I uh that's a lot of you that have your own screens. What kind of screen do you have an IPAD? And what do you do with your IPAD. The thing that I really liked to do take crazy. Self portrait with the photo booth APP. Does anybody else like to do that. Yes what is somebody else do. Do I usually just watch videos. I'm my and I set alarms. Oh that's a really good use of stuff. Does anybody use any kind of devices is for school like officially at school at my school. We got I pat so we use them for like schoolwork we do reports and do our projects online so screens can be used for things that are really productive right like alarms and school and for things that just kind of waste time. I'm not hearing anybody. You talk about video gaming. But I'm guessing some of that game. Okay okay video. Gamers to the Mike's talk about your video gaming. Well I really like when I'm bored and and I don't really WanNa Watch TV. I usually play video games. What kind of video games do you play? Are you playing like scrabble. Well I I play minecraft in Halo and stuff like that. You do video games to oven talk about what you like to do with your screens lake. PBS S. Video Games. Oh I like to do like dry gaps in my free time sometime. A lot of you are nodding your heads. Let's hear about these drawing things you do. Well you can do lots of different things like you can take photographs and you turn it into like Pixel and you can then like use your finger to color it. Do you like doing that better than actually using like markers and paper and pens no not really sometimes I do but not really. Lots of people are worried. The kids are using screens too. Much what do you think i. I think that kids are easing screens Too much because like during summer. We're on them like all day. Long usually Salata so a lot of nodding heads. I think it's what the parents think are too much or too little. Do you think parents are using screens too much. I actually do. What are you seeing day textile on what they called it may cause day depend on their phone We're GONNA be talking talking about screens on the children's hour today because we have questions that are outstanding the about them. We're GONNA be talking with Dr Christina Sour from the university the city of New Mexico. She's in attending child and adolescent psychiatrist and an Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences and she's been looking at the effect and impacts of digital devices on children. We're going to get a lot of our questions answered and we're also going to hear from Dom Gola and he has some advice for kids about keeping your self control when using digital devices. There's a lot more coming up on the children's this hour. We're glad you're with us right now. This is show local L.. But you'd call Me Happen Court chilling wit- quits winning story for Buds out there so get your ears open and come home not kids sell Salom our you don't get me. Ragged flat many crew so no place in God. He didn't want to go see. He has six legs big fat swings through the garden. COOLEST thing keeps lying right next to the half wanted to see what was being cousin. He got hypnotized. Take things it was. That was totally new stopping. That was wonderful salads. He was like flap right inside cool. But I'm cracks. Windscreen hit in the head with a couple of you. We know they couldn't find interest. Forgot about yard got to US Tom. It'd be nice guy. I many thought so. No place in early. Didn't I want to go see his big fat drums and he knew that was the coolest thing it was inside it possessed by the TV. He started checking. He got hit square flat screen in place. It was in Chinese food. ooh That was wonderful. I is opening act. The world's go now McGinnis please flash from the SWING BRAT IN HIS head. The days with the couple kept watching all day till he couldn't speak say. Forget about the book. Don't don't get you. Don't get all right now. So go arts arts and see the phone. Their shoes don't waste. Oh so you can watch. I have visuals time. I have four hundred twenty two friends. Yes I'm lonely. I speak to all of them every day yet. None of them really know me The problem I have sis my between looking into that is or it's a name on a screen took a setback. Doug my eyes. I looked around around a realized this media weaker social is anything but when we open our computers and he saw does we all this technology. We have it's just Andalusian community companionship sense of inclusion. When you step away from this divisive delusion your wakened to see a world of confusion Asian world were we slaves to technology? We must it. We're information gets sold by some rich greedy world of interest of image so promotion where Israel share a best bits. Leave out the emotion. We rats almost happy with inexperienced. We share is it the same if no one is there. Uh Be. They're your friends and they'll be there too but no one will be if a message to we add it and exaggerate crave adulation. We pretend not to notice the social isolation we've had words into order in our lives a glistening. We don't even know if anyone is listening. Being alone is in the problem. Let me just emphasize the size of you read a book painting pictures and do some exercise. You're being productive and presence reserve Rick Lewis. You're being awaken attentive pushing your time to could use so when you're in public and you start to feel alone hands behind your head. Step away from the phone. You don't need Stereo your contact list. Just talk to one another learn to coexist. I can't stand to hear. Hear the silence of a busy commuter train knows talk for the fear of looking and saying we're becoming unsocial in our longest voice to engage with one another and look into someone's vice with surrounded by children since they were born abortions living robots think. It's not very likely might world's greatest dad if you can't entertain a child without without using an IPAD. When I was a child never be home? Be Out my friends and our bikes would Roy Manuel Jose Martinez and grays up my niece. Who Builder and clubhouse high up in the trees? He's now the parks are quite. It gives me you see no children. Outside and the swings hanging stu there's no skipping hopscotch church and no steeple we're generation ration- idiots smartphones dumb people. Come from you shutdowns taking I can your surroundings make the most of today just one real connection is only can take to show you the difference. The being there can to be there in the moment that she gives you the look that you remember forever. That's been lover Richard Thompson. I Japan I Kiss Your Lips. The Tummy I disagreed is agreed to love that abyss. The time you don't have to tell hundreds of what you've just done because she wants to share this moment with just this one time you sell your computer so you you can buy a ring for the goal of your dreams. Who is now the real thing? The time you want to start a family and the moment when I hold you to go get to fall in love again. Uh Tom she keeps you up nights and all you want is rest and the time you wipe away the tears as your baby. The next time you baby go returns for boy few too old the tiny Coochie granddad makes you feel real old. Tommy taking all you made just by giving attention attention. How are you glad you didn't waste it but looking down to some invention the Tommy hold your hand sit down beside her bed? You tell that you the play his opponent she then whispers chew quietly as a hawk is funnel beat that. She's lucky she goes stops. Looks boy in the street point but none of these times have happened. You never had any of this when you're aww busy looking down you don't see the charts you miss the cup from your phone phone. Shut down those displays. We have a finite existence. A set number of days. Don't waste to life getting caught in the net as the incomes. Nothing's worse than regrets. I'm guilty not to being part of this machine this digital world. We are heard no scene where we type. Is We talk. Can we read. Is We chat where we spend hours together without making eye contact intact. Start giving life where you follow the high if people you love. Don't give them you like disconnect from the needs to be heard and defined go out into the world think distractions behind. Look up from your phone shutdown that display stop watching this video Live like the railway It's something I think from that screen. Your friends Wednesday on the side Blah The chew it's about the same sexting. We haven't seen Sundays and now yeah it is now when you walk down the street a gadget in. y'All conserve I will smile. uh-huh you're listening to the children's hour. That was Danny wine. Cough from a release called totally. Oh some with put down that smartphone. Own before that you heard a spoken-word piece by Gerry Turk called look up and opening that set was secret. Agent Twenty three skidoo caught. Aw in the screen. We're talking about using screens on the children's hour today. We've got a lot of kids here in the studio with us. Do your parents set that limits for using screen time so my limit for days one hour and thirty minute periods hall do like thirty minutes in the morning thirty minutes in the after noon and yeah is it hard. After thirty minutes to put the device down. Yes yes yes yes it is do other people find it hard to put devices down not really hard to shut down with me because all you have to do is put the case on. Oh cool will. So that makes you shut it down now. All of a sudden the device makers are taking very seriously the idea of making limits. It come come on. Two devices. Automatically while parents are rightly concerned about their kids use of digital devices about forty percent of kids. Kids are worried about their parents use of screen time. We're going to discuss the health impacts of screen time with adolescent psychiatrist Dr Christina Sour. The children's hour is listener supported kids public radio produced by the Children's Hour Inc a nonprofit dedicated indicated to producing high quality kids public radio. Learn more at children's our dot Org Wolf is a proud supporter of the children's hour. The the hour of creates immersive experiences that transport audiences of all ages into kaleidoscopic realms of story and exploration learn more at Thou Wolf Dot Com. You're listening to children's hour. We'll be right back It it was in the morning sunny Saturday I turned on the TV and on the couch. I Lay I watched my favorite program men another two or three when my dad came in the room and said these words to me son turn off the TV. There's lots of things to do. Take your beds not made the chores done. Sun Is Shining too. I said Dad. I'm busy. I gotTa Watch this show. I guess I should have listened. Ed How was I to know cause any walked across the room and then he pulled the plug lifted up the television. He skipped across the rug. He opened end up the window. And then I said Dad be gave the thing he even I watch the TV show. Oh Dad through the TV the APP to win win he's finally through the TV out the win. Yeah Oh and I go. When I heard the crash I knew that things at our house would soon be changing fast? My Dad looked out the window. Any mumbled my oh. My brother looked out to and said I'm going to die that night after when when we went to watch the set all found was nothing I said how could I forget. My brother fell down on the floor and Moan. What will I do I said? And why don't you move away. He said the same thing you but they told you I told to or and the one about elephants. May Dan fall on in. My mom did her impression of duck. The couldn't fly. There would a major wet your pants and made me cry all because Dude Dude. I think he finally glad to win. I got in life without the TV. Wasn't what I feared. I didn't really miss it though. Some friends thought I was weird. I didn't Miss Commercials and all the blood and guts and all the stupid shows. My brother watched drove me nuts but then once sunny Saturday my dad could not be found. I looked high and low in front rule. I heard a sound. I walked in his room to see what it could be I've found my father hiding there watching. At said Oh. Dad Natalie you you ought to own a shame said kind of shellfish league. I just want to watch the game and I picked up the I walked across the room. I gave the thing me he though when thanks I got night Thomas dead through the TV out. The window is Bill Harley. You're listening to the children's hour and with us today in. The studio is Dr Christina Sour. She he is a pediatric and adolescent psychiatrist at the University of New Mexico Health Sciences Center. And she's here with her four-month-old bb welcome to the children's hour. Thank you so much for having US glad to be here. The kids have a lot of questions for you. So let's start with this one larry screen so addictive while these devices are our Addictive because they activate they cause excitement in certain areas of our brain which makes us want to use them more and use them more and so that has been scientifically proven and so the question is how do we use them responsibly? But not get too stuck in wanting to use them all the time. The kids were talking earlier about how hard it is to put down their devices. Why is that well because when we use these phones and other devices that activate certain parts of our brain It it triggers chemicals that make because want to use them more and so it actually because of how our brains work make a lot of sense that we wanna keep using them but it also has a component where people wanna talk talk to their friends and they want to be doing things that are fun on their phones. So it's both a mixture of how are brains react to it but also the things we enjoy doing at on on it. That makes it hard to put them down. How much tax should kids have in a day? That's a really good question and sometimes we think it depends on how old you are exactly and also what you're using it for and what from some of your family rules are so we know that specific associations that deal with health have said The young kids like under the age of four should probably not be using much tech at all But then as kids start getting into school maybe it's okay to use an hour or two a day Eh but we definitely want to set limits so that we're not spending too much time on there and that we're doing other activities. That are good for our brains that are away from devices like playing outside and having in time with friends and family. Is that why they're saying that. You should use a limited amount of time because it's unhealthy because you're not doing things that are physical when you're doing doing screen time. Yeah exactly that's part of it so we know that when you're using screens you're probably not exercising. You're probably not spending time face to face with people that matter adder to you and those are all really healthy for our brains as far as development and growth but also that you know we just want people to have a diversity or like a range of the things that they're doing besides spending most of their free time on their phones to does the amount of screen time. A person should have an a day really change when you become an adult adult. Is it feasible to be a healthy adult and be on a screen all the time. That's a good question. We think not. We might see a lot of adults or grown-ups who spend spend a lot of their time on devices but that's probably not a very healthy thing either even though they're older Same thing it's not good for our brains at doesn't give us the ability ability to engage with our world and to be active so we do think everyone should have some sort of limits it just may also depend on what their devices are used for if it's for for work or for other activities to what's the appropriate age for kid to have a phone. That's a very good question so in my job when we talk with kids like in the hospital title a lot of times we think that may be around eight to ten. Some parents start letting their kids have phones for communication And maybe simple Apple Games. Some people even younger but we don't think having a lot of social media apps like facebook or instagram. Really make a lot of sense until people. We'll get more into their teenage years. Do you see mental health problems from specific to social media. Definitely I just had this conversation with a medical students today and we were talking about how. There's some good things to the APPS like people having friends and communication. But there can also be some downsides as far as comparisons with other people like while my friends are so prettier. My friends are doing all these things that I don't get a do when that might not be a real snapshot of their life. That's just kind of how they're portraying that's how they're displaying themselves at that moment so we think that sometimes especially if someone has low self esteem him or maybe they don't feel great about themselves that social media can sometimes make them feel worse or more depressed too. What kind of recommendations would you make two kids to be able to use devices and stay healthy? Yeah that's a good question. Well I think it's good to consider everything that you enjoy doing right. Do you enjoy taking bike rides. Do you enjoy spending time talking with your friends or cooking. Or what other hobbies do you have and so try to make sure that you're doing those. And then a lot of people will benefit really from just having a set limit so they say I'll spend a half an hour or an hour on school days and then maybe an hour or two on weekends but for all of us I think capping our time. Time with a set number can be pretty helpful so that we step away and do other things have screens. made us have shorter attention. Spans than before the digital era came to be. Can we tell that. Is that something psychiatrists no and have measured. Well Yeah people actually have studied it and we do think that there has has been affect on attention and that might come with other aspects in our media as well such as short commercials and TV shows does that may not require the same attention span but yes we think that it has affected has affected enhance doing other things away from a screen can be helpful to to kind of help expand what our attention span is to. Is there anything else you wish kids knew about screens. And what's happening in their brains when they're playing on those screens. Yeah Yeah I think it's just a really good idea that Kids are aware that it's not all fun and like other things in life there's positive parts of uh-huh can have a downside so I think the biggest pieces to be thoughtful about how we're using it and to limited just like any other activity we enjoy But to not lose track of the fact we have a world around us that we can spend time in and engage with. That's beyond just the screens. We hold in our hands Dr Christina Sour. She is an adolescent and pediatric psychiatrist at the University of New Mexico and an adjunct professor as well and the the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Health. Thank you so much for being with us. All on the children's hour today thank you and thanks for having Little Kiana here to provided some sound effects. She's pretty cute. Is She used any screens yet. Well she's not formally but my husband and I try to watch ourselves if we're using our phone that it's is not something that She's spending too much time staring out at the same time. Is that something you worry about. Parents showing their kids too much screen time by just modeling. That behavior definitely. Yeah because we'll talk to parents about limiting screen time for their kids but then the parents are sitting there spending all of their meal on their screen time so we do really try to encourage parents to be good role models does for their kids and be mindful about how much of their time. They're spending enveloped in the screen to thanks for being with us on the children's hour. Yeah thank you. So so much coming up next. Seth Hoffman rectangle. Right here on the children's hour rectangle Tang on the starred in strangle squeezing out the laugh at I knew everybody's got the head in the screen and Rondo notice anything at all policy. We're connected better feeling so rejected and I bet I'm not the only one Nobody's talking to the people that Komo way to see is the wreck Tangun. MM starting to strangle squeezing the lavery. I knew everybody has got a screen and don't know say anything winging all Salil bit scary. How the faces get buried and they missed the world going by past that? 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Plug looked like a Tayo so we plugged in little gym and now instead of him watching. TV We all sit around and watch You saw uh-huh you mention. I is screen slave of your for free from the mixes a hand. Your around you see. What is it? Just Around you around you. The house Did you see thank And see the turn. town does says Blonde one of a greeting Yeah aww DUDE TASTE EDS com. The children's hour is listener supported. Find out more at children's our dot Org support for this program also provided by Bernallio County New Mexico. Burn Co Daca. DACA OUR Yeah the I remember when a photograph was word without one now. A thousand pictures come way every day. Like oh Seen Take my breath not to look. I'm soon leafing through the ages. Got something else to do Tragedy firm that's not the time look builds beauty and good good to start up in the sky photograph. The Moon Have to have to find funny. I would never turns out slack. Some that's not I'm so tired missing now. A Look Wonsan. Mooted builds a tween beauty. And is it you stand up with down my devices in Stockton live look look Zits Jake Busey in the northwest for the first time. I cannot believe Uh yes not in the middle of the wristband. The stomach Mark Sky Photograph Luke Graph. I have two two. You're listening sitting to the children's hour and you just heard look on a single by reliant k the blackout band before the break brought us video games. Those guys were teenagers majors in two thousand and six in Bodey and Kathleen Martin brought us. Turn off your cell phone to Mejet News. TV set is from where the sidewalk ends Shel Silverstein Steen and rectangle. Way Back when came from. Seth Hoffman brand new release. We're talking about screens. I'm speaking with Dharamsala. He is technology pioneer and one of the original people who was involved with twitter and even and facebook. Welcome to the children's hour dom crier. Thanks for having me Katie. I reached out to you because I was reading your online blog. I guess it is about parenting kids in the technological age and with some really specific advice for kids. Let's what could you suggest to kids that they can learn to help themselves. Keeping control when it comes to device limitations a couple pieces of advice. I've boiled it down to five letters and they spell the word map it so the the first letter is model. And that's when you look to your parents to you find the right kind of way to use things if you see them using a device or were an IPAD You don't see them using it all day right you see them using a period of time and then when you ask for attention they give it to you and it should be the the same thing for you so model the kind of behavior that you see from your parents and you can learn from them. The next litter is a and it stands for agree. And that's why we decide what we want to do something before we do it and we agree with our parents about when and how to use it so if it's a game we know how long to play and if it's a tool we know what to do with it when it's done put it away And the next letter is P and that's for participation so I I love to play games. I love to watch shows with my kids and I think that your parents would love that too. So if you have something that you're doing and you want them to see call them over and they'd love to share with you because part of this is doing things together the next letter. I stands for integrate. And that's where I think we can learn what the right place for technology is in the House and by that I mean for example TV. We don't don't have the TV on all day. It's on during certain times when we watched something or it's on when we want to learn something and turn it off same thing goes for devices vices. We're not using them all day. We're not using them for a very long period of time using them for small time sometimes we use them to learn something sometimes use use them to to achieve something or if we're playing a game we're trying to win something and so we know at the place is for this technology. The and that's what I mean by integrate. Some people do a thing where they only get to play games on weekends but then the weekends become consumed by gains. So I like to in my house integrate technology so that's part of our daily life but doesn't take over and the last were the last letters t and that stands for transition and that's the important moment when you want to give up the phone or give up the IPAD or the game and you WanNa the have something else to do so I always tell folks have some food ready or juice or some activity are going to do next like play ball or A play again other game and in the real world physical world maybe go outside and plan for that time. So that when you're done you feel let down by having having to give up the device and that's map at a p I t it's a good easy acronym to remember you. Also talk in your essays about about learning meditation and it sounds like that's just something that you were doing and your kids have started to model what you're doing. Can you talk a little bit about meditation and device use sure You know these these things bring up a lot of feelings whether it's what you're watching chain or how you feel about having the vice taken away or the needs and wants that we have around these things and sometimes I like to just sit and think can feel without doing anything. And that's what I call it. Meditating and I just sit there and closed my eyes and I breathe and it's at first. It may seem a little silly but if if you get into it he start doing it can feel really really good. It can feel calm can feel peaceful. You can learn things about yourself and the way you think and you can let yourself have a feeling and then kind of let it go and meditation is the practice of emptying your mind and letting yourself go Quietly and while you're sitting still and you can meal down like I do sometimes or you can sit cross legged crisscross applesauce or you can sit in a chair. Rican even lay down. But we're not sleeping. We're just closing our eyes breathing and you breathe in a certain pattern and it's like you go in for sports seconds. Can't hold over four seconds exactly like that four seconds just count to four counter counter for and that pattern if you do it long enough can really help you calm down so sometimes when we have these devices make make really got US excited. It's important to just reflect and calm yourself down afterwards even before doing it that way. You get focused. You're ready to do something. Tom Sigala heason season Tech Entrepreneur. 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Unsolved:  The Tara Calico Disappearance

True Consequences

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Unsolved: The Tara Calico Disappearance

"Morbid all edgy is a true crime. Podcast hosted by me. Emily Gee Thomson author of unsolved Channel Murders Cover and Co author of unsolved murders. True crime cases uncover emergency husband. I need an umbrella. Using investigative research combined with primary audio including nine one one calls interviews and trial testimony. Morbid -nology takes a look at some of the world's most heinous murders. You know why you're here for a home in Beijing terribly. Listen to Morbid. Only on apple spreaker stitcher called Bain. Or wherever else you get podcasts. This is true consequences. He true crime and mystery podcast restore. He's based in New Mexico in the American desert. Southwest this week's promos brought to you by more. If you enjoy listening to this show please. Rate Subscribing Review on your favorite pod catcher. True consequences is fully listener supported to support the show good patriotic dot com slash chew consequences to keep up with all my updates. 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Now Imagine your child disappears seemingly out of thin air the panic the moment of realizing that you may never see them the sinking in your stomach and intense waves of fear this is what Patty Dole of Bologna Mexico experienced. In one thousand eight her daughter Tara Calico ventured out on her daily bike ride. The afternoon of September twentieth would be the last time the Tara Calico was seen by her family and friends. This case gripped the nation and news of this disappearance spread quickly. There seemed to be little in the way of clues to help. Uncover what happened to? Tara until a mysterious photo was discovered nearly two thousand miles away in Florida. This made her disappearance even more bizarre and the photo only raise more questions. It's now been thirty. Two years since Tara vanished and the case is still considered unsolved. There are lots of rumors and about what happened. Tara and honestly it can all be so confusing sift through to join but my friend Alex you may remember him from the West Mesa bone collector episode. Alex and I discussed this case as best. We can in one episode if you want to learn more about tars case there's a very thorough investigative podcast that is done by Melinda. The host of banished Tara Calico Investigation Melinda was able to interview key witnesses. In the case she was also given access to the entire case file or at least what was left of it. How can we ever hope for this case to be solved when records in evidence just vanish as quickly as targeted this is one of the most baffling cases in New Mexico and the United States? It's certainly one of the most baffling cases. I've ever looked at Eric. Carter Lundy and this is true. Consequences all right so Today first of all I want to talk about this case. It's a it's insane like the amount twists and turns and different theories and things that have come Ou- it's an old case and I did so I did try to reach out to Melinda sql. She is a podcast producer on. She actually has a podcast called banished. The Tara Calico investigation which is where I got some of the information for this episode. I reach out to her to see if she wanted to be a guest on on this show and she never responded so I don't know she's probably busy filming documentary that she's working on with the dude from breaking bad. Yeah but I did. I did request that but I do. WanNa plug her show right now because she is from New Mexico It's a very thorough podcast. She's she's gotten very deep in the investigation. She had access to all the case. Files and everything and You learn a lot of things that I thought I knew. Apparently I didn't know I think there's a lot we still don't know about this case but we are definitely going to talk about the mysterious disappearance of Tara Calico and then because I tortured you and made you do most of the bone collector. Because I didn't want to. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA take lead here on on this one and then we're last time and then if you have things you WANNA atoms for you. I mean I know you've done your research to jump in interrupt cut me off. Whatever you WanNa talk about We can go down some rabbit holes here the other thing. I want to say before we start to cut you off. Look like you're GonNa say something but that we are going to throw some names around in this episode and I just wanted to mention my listeners. That we're we're not claiming anybody's guilty of anything. We're just presenting information that we found in our research and Everybody is innocent. Until they're proven guilty so while there are some actual names being used in this episode. It's not my opinion or The opinion of consequences or Alex that these people are definitely responsible but we do wanna just clarify that. We're not judges. Yep so I know you know what balloon is Belan. David Blaine Lean so for those of you listening or watching right now. We were talking about all the different youtubers podcasters that mispronounced the city Berlin. And it's not their fault. They're not from here. We have some strange. You know town and city names Bernie. Leo's one of them that most people can't pronounce it. They're not from here. Who or HEM IS I. If you're not from here I would ask you to facebook. Message me or put something on the comments of this episode of how you would spell hem is just. I'm just curious to see what that looks like. But anyway So Berlin so. Alexander will pronounce it correctly to those other people. It's not their fault. They're not from just farming is just funny. Yeah it's frustrating for me. I have a hard time not being mad about that. I think that happened at the soda. Last time we were together I said. Did you had to stop and go like wait? Let's let's explain to everyone with that. Is there have that? It's even said so. Blend New Mexico so I grew up in Sikora. Which is about seventy miles. South of Albuquerque. Balloon is about thirty miles. And so that was always the halfway point when we were driving to Albuquerque in back home. We knew we were halfway to albuquerque or half way back home when we hit Berlin. So that's just kind of a stupid trivia that nobody cares about but personal remarks but so Bologna Mexico's a small town. Like I said it's thirty miles south of Albuquerque. It's just off. I twenty five. And it's in Valencia County which is on the outskirts of Albuquerque and that whole county kind of considered part of the Albuquerque Metro statistical areas. They include the population of Valencia County. Whenever they look at the overall metro population. And it's very similar to Albuquerque. In the sense that it's in the Rio Grande Valley and very much albuquerque. There's large mountains in the east and Best Mesas in the West in town. Kind of settles in the Valley and as of two thousand eighteen estimated population of Berlin was around seven thousand so not very big But the whole county itself Rural areas. Yeah in enroll and you may not know this Alex but Ba Lynn. Do you know what balloon is in Spanish? But it means I don't what does it mean? Bethlehem Bethlehem Jesus was born. Okay interesting that's kind of a weird thing. I think part of that was probably because the Spaniards coming through in conquering this area. Mix a they need a lot of these places m makes sense and historically because of its location. It's pretty much dead center in New Mexico. It became known as the hub city And that's because it has a massive connection to rail major highways and they were able to ship a lot of goods and freight through that area and it still continues to be that. It's just not as big as it was back in the day. And then like you said it's also known for its best farmland in very rural spread out areas so finally balloon is the setting of one of the most baffling unsolved cases. Not just any Mexico but in the US and that's the disappearance of Tara Calico so it's GonNa take you on a little bit of a different journey here and talk about a story. That seems unrelated. Are we'll come back to later in the story. So this story is about a boy named Michael Henley He was camping with his family in the summer of nineteen eighty eight in the Zuni mountains. And those mountains are kind of close to grants so between Albuquerque and Gallup. They were camping. They're having a good time and he disappeared and his parents freaked out. And I don't know we're about the same age I think. Maybe you're a little bit older than me So you probably remember. You're like sixty five right. Sixty four know your forties right. Yeah I'm forty two. Yeah okay. So we're about the same age so you remember the eighties like it was full on insanity. People were so afraid of child. Abductions there was the whole satanic. Panic thing that was happening where everything was satanism. I was in Colorado Springs during that time and I remember my mom told me about like huge satanic Deducting children in. Apparently there was looted truth actually in Colorado Springs but it was done truth to it but a lot of got blown out of proportion ally bit got used to cause harm for a lot of people that were innocent of doing anything Which is crazy that whole thing was insane. But but imagine being a parent like your apparent. Now imagine being a parent in one thousand nine hundred eighty in your camping and your kid just disappear. I think some someone took took off with them right Especially back then. Because that's all you heard about on the news and you know I was little in the eighties but I remember the climate of fear around all of that. My mom even had this whole thing of you know she bought me. These shoes had a little zipper on the tongue and she put a quarter in each shoe so that I could call somebody if I got the rouge. I remember that an and I. I'm not trying to make light of tar case because I'm sorry. No No. Don't be sorry but I'm going to do a little funny story in here because it just reminded me of it. And if it's not funny you can tell me and then. I'll delete it okay so so when I was I think three maybe my mom was telling me about all these kids that were getting abducted and molested and like she explained it to me and like what it man and she was just trying to get me to be more aware of things and she said. Oh Yeh Stranger comes. And they offered Treats then they're probably going to try to deduct you and they're probably trying to molest you and stupid? I was I was scared. Kid Right so We go to the grocery store and there's little Catholic ladies out front with the bake sale so So the lady who have are you. Oh do you WANNA cookie and I took off running as fast as I could screaming. Oh molested crying. Larionov bed I was three. She was so shocked. She didn't know what to thanks. You just like what's happening with this kid. Does the point is. I think that that climate was very palpable for everybody during that. Time was hyper aware back. Then yeah I think that. Michael's disappearance for his parents was probably immediately in their minds. That's what they thought. Families searched the area surrounding the campsite. And they weren't able to find him and they continued hoping that there would be some clue or lead that would help them find their son but unfortunately they wouldn't get any kind of closure for that for several months. Now let's talk about Tara. Tara was a bright promising sophomore at UNM. She attended the Valencia campus which is kind of close to Las Lewis which is just north of Berlin. Tara was popular. She was well liked by her peers and she was seen as very active and athletic. She loved cheerleading softball. Tennis skiing all those kinds of activities. She was constantly involved in sports and exercise. It was everything to her so September. Twentieth Nineteen Eighty Eight. Started just like any other day for her. She left her homeland on a bike. Ride that she regularly took. It was thirty four miles round trip. That's yeah that's a lot. That's a lot yeah. She had some concerns about this ride in particular because she is having trouble with one of her tires on her bike so a lot of reports claim that she took her mom's bike that day which was a pink cuffy. She would always ride her bike along the same route which was highway forty seven which is one of the highways that goes north and south. It connects Akot all the way to Albuquerque. And it's a small road. It's one northbound lane and one southbound lane that's it. She would often go with her mom. Patty Dole but patty. It stopped taking that bike ride because she had a weird experience where she was being harassed by an aggressive driver so she tried to convince Tara to bring pepper spray or mace with her on this trip to protect yourself and tar brush it off and was like don't worry about it mom it's fine She was known to be very independent and strong willed so she really didn't feel the need to bring Mace with her plus like back then. It was still even. Though there's all these child abductions happening. It was still relatively safe to do that. In a place like Bouillon right right common. Sure Yeah I mean I think I grew up just out on my bike all over. Sokoto without ever worrying about any of that even though you know it was because I felt like I knew what I needed to do. I think probably tariff felt the same way like she knew she could with it as she had to write it. You've been preparing it. For instance you were kid since they can look in any way from the nuns so on her way out. Tara told her mom that if she wasn't backed by noon to come looking for her because she had a date with her boyfriend at Twelve. Thirty to play tennis. And there's an investigation discovery episode of unsolved about this case. It's pretty short. But they interview. Tara sister and her sister describes Tara as extremely athletic organized. Now for me. I barely exercise at all. Like I just you know it. Just don't I probably should have high blood pressure and all these other things that I should exercise but I don't I kid writing thirty four miles on Murphy in I would be dead. Yeah and then but not just that. She's like hey thirty four mile bike ride cool then. I'M GONNA go play tennis. Which is related up this intense exercise? Yeah so I guess your sister describe your perfectly you know when she talks about how extremely athletic she was. Because that is way above my head. I can't figure that out at all. So another characteristic terror known for was her meticulous planning and the idea that she was gonNA ride thirty four miles in about two and a half hours. It just seems a little intense. You know like not likely that she'd be able to make that entire trip which would make sense by. She would tell her mom to confine her puck. Because I think two and a half hours even if you're in great shape that's pushing it for that long of a drive probably but we don't. I know that I've never done for ever. No I think the most I've done is like ten miles. I am not even sure what sad took. She wanted to make sure she didn't miss that date with her boyfriend. Jack Cole so she Tape in her Walkman and her headphones on she headed out for a bike ride. Do you remember do you remember? Walkmans I had I had definitely had a Walkman with the base boost and everything then I eventually got the CD Walkman. That was even better deal like the anti skip but you had to replace the batteries like every ten minutes. Or so. You know You're the younger listeners. That may not know what the Hell we're talking about to. A walkman was a cassette player. A portable cassette player. So if you like watch any old eighties movies. You see them with their stereos. Those things were giant like the Wednesday held on their shoulders. They were other boom boxes and boxes so like the Walkman was just. A small is like an ipod but for cassette player for cassette tapes right. That's probably the best way to describe it but even ipods are old now. So if you're really gaining with the Sport Walkman. That was yellow you know. That's what was like waterproof. Yeah she probably needed it for all the exercise she was doing so needless to say Her Mom Patty became very worried when tired and show up at noon and she started to drive around looking for her along the route. The Tar was known to take remember that her mom used to go with her so she knew this route as she drove up and down highway forty seven and then decided to go home to see if maybe she miss Tara. Maybe her bike would be in the garage and hopefully she was playing tennis with Jack but when she drove up she noticed that the bike wasn't there and she started to panic. Meanwhile tars boyfriend. Jack Calls to the House because she didn't show for the Tennessee state and when he learned that Tara missing he immediately leaves to help her parents find her. And so I'm GonNa just say like I'm probably not GonNa do as good of a job on the specific details of this case as like Melinda has because I. I think I've been researching this for about three weeks now so it's taken me a lot of time. I still don't feel like I'm going to be able to do this. Justice in one episode that I just WanNa qualify that and say if you want more in depth detail. Listened to Melinda's podcasts. Me because this is just. There's so much to this and no I'm GonNa Miss Something. Some apologizing ahead of time tars family and friends and the police spent pretty much the rest of the afternoon in the evening looking for her along highway forty seven they stumbled upon some bike and truck tire tracks on the side of the road near Rio communities which is a small village Just east of Blinn on some reports. They say that there were signs of a struggle. Some reports don't say that at all you know what the truth is But they did find are as broken yellow walkman and the cassette tape that she had and it was all there on the side of the road and her family believes strongly that this right was lost in. Yeah yeah and I was like well. How do they know if that was her taper? What nine I was. It must've been like a recorded tape with her handwriting on it or something like that. Something holiday no that exactly that was hers yet. Walkman while herds of the tape was separate than the Walkman right. Yeah found like out of the Walkman in so that's why people thought that maybe she's trying to leave a trail or something along those lines right. Yeah they was her attempt at leading evidence for people to find her and to show that she was there. Her walkman was distinctive like we talked about it was the Bright Yellow Sport Walkman and her family really. They knew right away as soon as I saw it that it was hers. There's a lot of eye witnesses. According to police documents there's there's quite a few witnesses. Their stories aren't all the same but they're all kind of similar search and rescue began combing the area. They did this for five days straight. Couldn't find anything related Tara. But then these people started coming out of the woodwork. A lot of people claim to have seen Tara on her bike being followed by nineteen fifties. Light-colored Ford pickup with a camper. Some campers what I heard too like something really distinguishable yes so some people said Homemade camper in some some reports. Don't say that at all so I don't know which one is true. I do have a sketch of it that I'll post on the website and on the show notes and it'll be on social of course so this truck was very distinctive especially in the eighties. There weren't a lot of those types of trucks driving around The sheriff's Department released a sketch of just showed you and there's also a sketch of the alleged driver which isn't very helpful But it's kind of spooky looking. I don't know if you saw that. So one witness named Ishmael Villarosa claim to have seen Tara being followed on her bike by a man with bright red hair in an old Ford pickup with a camper. He tried several times to give a statement to the police and was brushed off and treated like he was wasting their time. This was according to him. Bright red hair right red hair. Another witness Barron. Freeman claims that he saw Tara on highway forty seven as he drove to the airport. He did get a good look at the driver of the truck and he became worried about Tara as he passed her so he even tried to like make eye contact with her to make sure she was okay but she completely ignored him. She was just like jam tape and riding her bike so he was like okay. She must be fine And he took off and just went to the airport and caught US flight when he found out that tyrod went missing he spent years trying to give statements to the police. And no one would ever take statement. Wasn't it wasn't until twenty years after her disappearance that the sheriff at the time then spoke with Barron another witness saw two men and a truck following closely behind. Tara as she bites so some people said one man. Some people said two men She got a good look at the men and was even able to identify them and photos. Police showed her. They gave her some books of pictures. A suspects and she identified both of the people in the truck on the PODCAST BANISHED. Tara CALICO investigation she. She's interviewed on that and she talks about how she remembers pointing out the people that were responsible and that the police really had like no reaction to have bright red hair. I don't know if that's what she saw But one of the people that is suspected to be involved does have bright red hair so they took those photos Her statement and then they left and she never heard anything back about it after that and one of the men that she identified in the photo turns out was the son of Ken. Sheriff the Sheriff was Lawrence Romero senior and the Sun was Lawrence Romero Junior. This is out there. It's on Melinda's podcast. It's all over Youtube again. People are innocent until proven guilty But that's who she identified as well as another gentleman that was known to run around with Lawrence so anything you want to add so far Alex anything else will. Where does this like a polaroid? Famous polar picture come into play. That's a perfect segue into the next part of this right on time. I mean if anything me I I. I'm not from New Mexico. I've been here like twenty two years now though so I consider myself a native now but I I heard about this case Before that I think I was living in Colorado or somewhere else at the time and the thing about this case that really stuck out. What made everyone really drawn to it? Was this picture about. Hey I want to do this case with you. I didn't put two and two together till I kind of did a little research. It was like Oh my goodness this was. This was a big case. Aca Day Liz. Yeah it's still is so I'm GonNa pull this up right now Let me see if I can figure this out. You see the the polaroid their true. Do Okay so this is on people dot com slash crime Using their website to show this photo so this photo was found in port. Saint George Florida so though June Fifteenth Nineteen eighty-nine. This is several months later or something. Raymond later. A woman at a convenience store in Port Saint George Florida found a polaroid photo in a parking spot. It looked like had fallen out of a vehicle. And when she saw the photo it sent chills down her spine. She called the police told him about the photo and that a white windowless Toyota cargo van was parked in the spot before the photo was found. She described a man in his thirties with a mustache. The police attempted to locate the van and its driver but they were unsuccessful. They went as far as setting up roadblocks and even showing flyers to everybody that they came in contact with so the photo itself is really took off nationwide kind of exploded to your point. Alex on the national scene after this photo came out and Police were very concerned about these two kids that were tied up in this picture. They were worried that something happening to them or going to happen to them. And it's a it's a pretty terrifying photo shows a female. Probably in her late teens. Early Twenties tied up and gagged along with a young boy. He looks to be about nine or ten years old He's also tied up and gagged. It looks like it's kind of staged because there's a book sitting right next to the female victim in that book is my sweet uttering by c Andrews so because you weren't a teenage girl in one thousand nine eight and I was a teenage girl in one thousand nine hundred eight We probably weren't aware that these Andrews was very popular young adult author at the time. A lot of teenage girls really liked reading her stories and they were kind of fucked up stories like she wrote flowers in the attic Okay I I am am aware of that book. I'm not aware of this this book that was in the van with them. Did you watch that movie fars the yeah a minute but yeah I have messed up man? It's a mister movie But you know if you like true crime. You'll probably like that that movie it's old. It's it's creepy V. C. Andrews was known for dealing with topics like incest and domestic violence. And all these like really intense things. So it's just funny that that was popular with teenage girls at the time. But it's pretty dark. Yeah but what am I gonNA talk into? True crime of Tara was a fan of Andrew's most teenage girls her age. There's been speculation about it. Being her favorite book in Mom had said that right. Yeah it was her and I and I've heard that but I've also heard that Her Mom said that it was her favorite author And not necessarily her favorite book so I don't know if that that matters but there was that connection to Tara which was her favourite author wrote which is why people starting to think. Maybe it was her in this photo. When they enhanced the photo they found a phone number or will look like a phone. Number scratched into the cover of the book and only part of the number was was visible. They couldn't make out a couple of digits in there so they had been trying with the help of some very smart people to decode that number and see if it could lead to a clue of of WHO. This girl was in. Who was responsible for her abduction? That didn't really pan anything out for them. There was really nothing that came out of that and on Melendez podcast. She talks about reminding her listeners not to try to figure out phone number and call people because the chance of that number even being in service anymore is pretty small right. I mean this is thirty two years ago so it was probably a landline back. Then this kind of brings back Michael Henley story so when this photo explodes on the National Scene Taurus family says they think that it's her and Michael Henley's family stands up and says it they think that it's Michael. Both Michael's parents and Tara's parents go to Port Saint George Florida to look at this photo. They're both convinced I think to this day. Family is still convinced that is Tara Calico in that photo. I don't think it's likely that it's her on have like the FBI. Look into it and Even less slabs with the help conclusions. Right yeah so the FBI. In Los Alamos. Labs both analyzed the photograph thoroughly They both claim that it wasn't Tara but Scotland Yard also analyzed and they disagreed with the FBI. They believe strongly that the photo was Tara. It's hard to say. I think you could split hairs on this whole thing in in Los Alamos did. There's a report out there. I haven't seen it But Melinda goes through it word by word where they're talking about the waving of her hair the shape of her eyebrows. The shape of the jaw line. They're comparing different photos of Tara to this Which is why. They felt strongly that it wasn't her but yeah people were. No Tara still claim that that photo was her. Let's say it's not her That's still really creepy photo to be finding in so we were those people in the photo then ran up was. Do you think it's one of those situations where someone mocked up just to stir up some issue or you know 'cause I mean honestly you can't see that their hands are really are bound in that at all. I mean it's it's it's such A. It's such a mysterious photo. It's really scary it's creepy. There's a lot of theories out there about about the photo being staged. There's even a theory that it was a joke that like the parents thought it would be funny to take a picture of their kids like that But if you look at the eyes of the boy desolate band is the girl. Not so much. But is the boy. There's something he looks scared to. Death to me looks terrified really. She looks pissed off. Look scared that little boy looked scared. Yeah and Patty Tars. Mom said that. That's exactly how she would expect tars expression to be in that situation that she would be pissed off. She wouldn't be scares. We'd be mad so she thinks she's glaring at whoever. The person is a took that photo. And if you look at her is she does look really angry. Oh it looks just a definite like mean goal air for sure right in there was like. I know that she had a scar somewhere from an injury and a birth mark on her lap or something in those were supposedly in the photo as well. I mean I haven't been able to observe this photo as close as of experts. Have obviously I just look saw all right and I can't see anything like that? You know the it looks very hard to see. It's a polaroid. Detailer photos is hard. Yeah and and the FBI even went as far as going to polaroid to ask them to look at the dyes and stuff that we're using that picture and they were able to determine when that photo was taken based on when that lot of film was released into the public but for me I mean the question is why do that photo get found in Florida. I think that's a question no matter what. Why was it? Found in Florida but isn't Tara than you know. It probably still WanNa find whoever that is but it doesn't seem like anybody's come forward to say that might be. My daughter was missing or that might be my son who is missing. Did no one else like stand up and say like hey that could be my sister my brother my son not that I could find okay and I would think that somebody would have mentioned that. Yeah but I do know that. Port Saint George back then was an unknown area for human trafficking child trafficking to get children to leave the US into other countries. The bottom line is whatever happened to those kids is is probably not good. It's really sad. It hurts my brain to think about her as her and who is it and I mean it. The parents were on Oprah. It's still no answers. I don't know what they thought though. The also in that picture was a Michael. Ride my goal and so. That's the kind of the part where I think that. Maybe this is this whole theory of him and her kind of connecting goes awry right. So let's talk about that. Michael Parents think it's Michael Torres. Parents think it's her Everybody's kind of preceding like that's the case and you know rightfully so Michael disappeared in New Mexico. Same year a couple of months before Tara and they both vanished so it would make sense to think that they could be together because it came from the same place but when I think it was nineteen eighty nine. They did find. Michael's body unfortunately Seven miles from the campsite where his parents and him were camping. So the autopsy ruled that his death was a result of exposure. Jeez so it sounds like he just got lost to play and he lost depending what time of year it was. It could have been really cold up in there. Yeah that's that's terrible. Yeah so then that just takes Michael Away from that whole photos in the guy who that kid is. That's not Michael Them Bright. Who is that kid? Where did you from? You know who's looking for somebody has to be looking for him. Thanks so much before all hoax Hoax let's set up to make it look like it is but it happens all the time to people do stuff like that. It's it's it's people claim that they're the killers when they're not the killer is all like the they'd send out things to red herrings confuse police it. Yeah so that's one theory actually that the actual people who killed they think Tara was killed and they think that the people responsible for killing her stage. That photo drove all the way to Florida. Which is a law of like trouble to go through. But there's accounts of somebody with New Mexico plates being the same gas station. That's really going far too like separate yourself from you know. Yeah Opening Street yeah. That's pretty extreme. So I know there's a ton of theories of what happened in what people think and everything but let's go. Maybe we should go over some of those theories. Sure okay so One of the theories. Of course we just talked about was that they were abducted in probably sold into human trafficking. Both her Michael. We know that Michael is dead But they're still that idea that maybe Tara was abducted and So much as a child. Yeah kind of trafficking situation But in two thousand eight so the sheriff at the time claimed that two teenagers hit Tara with a vehicle and accidentally killed her. I mean he believed that they covered up her death. He also claimed that because there was no body that was found. There was no way that he could press charges against against these two individuals but he knew they were And I I think Tara sister also believes that. This is more likely what happened to her. It's more likely that she never left Philadelphia County. It's more likely that she was either accidentally or intentionally murdered and her body was buried somewhere in the desert where nobody would know where she was. That seems to be a a pretty prevalent theory at least in the city of Berlin. There's a lot of rumors going around and I grew up in a really small town and I know what that's like you know. Everybody talks about everything everybody knows everybody. So it's hard to differentiate the truth from what's embellished or exaggerated or fake in those types of scenarios especially as these types of stories get passed around back and forth throughout the community. The theory is that there were two boys kind of sexually harassing an cat-calling Tara as they drove behind her just being typical Douche bags chasing women and that they accidentally hit her bike. Tara sister believes that the families of the boys were involved in a cover up in that they know where her body is. And because Belinda so small you know. There's just a ton of different rumors. One theory that I think is out there and probably not real Is that David? Parker Ray was responsible for her disappearance. Don't think that's likely just because the toy box killer. Yeah Yeah I mean. I guess anything's possible -bility but he didn't really go crazy far for his victims did he. He could albuquerque. He did get Cynthia unless right. That's right well I mean you never know Another he had a lot of victims and a lot of them. Probably that did survive. Won't come forward and stuff you know so When he was very handy could build things so he could have built a camper himself. Oh who think about okay. So that's a theory that's out there. There's really no evidence to back that up right now. We met. That says that happened but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. The weird thing that happened and this is something I want to touch touch on because I think it's important is Melinda the host of the podcast referring to Starting to receive of violence harm against her for asking questions because she immersed herself in the community and started chasing down leads. People did not like that so that to me is suspicious. I mean why. Are you going to react that way? If you really didn't do anything I agree So it just seems odd that after starting to investigate this co- case I mean this was like twenty years later. Like why would that happen unless there was something people wanted to hide? That's that's right point right looking from the outside in. It looks very suspicious to me. Yeah it just seems like people were going out of their way to keep this from being solved did there was a lot of A lot of things that were looked at. I think you know there was alive. Leads that were looked at as a lot of people that were listened to. And I know that there's a new sheriff that's on the case right now and I'm hoping that he can kinda show Celaya. What's going on in what happened thirty two years ago? I think that I might regret saying this. But doing this. Show and looking into different cases looking into Katainen. Judy looking into this case. Looking into my brother's case it's clear that they're the definitely some problems with the way. Justice is handled in some of these smaller communities. And it seems like you know the right people or connect with the right people. You get some kind of protection and that's wrong it's wrong. It's I mean this is why people are able to do things seemingly without any kind of consequence in this state. It's it's a big part of it and it's Eh needs to stop. It's just absurd that you know it's like living in a a weird corrupt place you know. It's strange really. Is this case screams to me. Cover up really does it. Sounds like you know. The couple people got away with array horrible crime. And I'm sorry like you don't lose evidence like if you're you are following procedures you shouldn't be losing interviews and evidence and recordings like how do those things disappear who has access to that stuff and if if like just random people have access to that stuff then there's a problem there too right like even if it is just like negligence. That's still not good. Yeah it's just a little too convenient. Yeah yeah well. It's convenient that. The sheriff was the sheriff at the time and one of the people name was a son. That's just bizarre. And you know. I think that I don't know the story. I don't know who really did it. I don't know who's responsible for it. It all looks very suspicious when you look at it from this side of of you know of history. I guess from what I keep hearing for all over. The place is like everyone Never talks about it but everyone says they know they know what happened. And there's no willing to actually come out and talk about it. Yep Crazy so interviewed you. A couple of these excerpts. Here this is the New Mexico supplemental report It's unpatriotic but you can find it online as well and this is part of the narrative so this is the state police case investigator typing up his thoughts on Saturday October. Twenty sixth two thousand thirteen at approximately two sixteen PM conducted an interview with Frank. M A former sheriff's deputy with Valencia County Sheriff's department. They're talking about. Who's using the room? Basically some coal case investigators and Bernallio county detectives. Mr M has been dispatched to conduct an interview with Henry. Brown who stated he had information about the TARA CALICO CASE. He wanted to pass it on before he died. Mr Brown wanted to speak deputy 'em because he was the public information officer. So here's the interview deputy. 'em said he made contact with. Mr Brown has residents and Mr Brown explained that he was dying and wanted to get this off his chest. Deputy 'em utilizes department issued tape recorder for the interview. Mr Brown explained that around the time of Tar Calicoes disappearance Lawrence Romero. Junior lived in a trailer home. His father had as a rental property. Just down the street from him. Mr Brown explained that they had made a makeshift basement under the trailer home where they would party and smoke marijuana. Dave S. another friend. That was tall and had red hair would come to the home. That Lawrence Romero junior lived in a Mr Brown would join them to party in the basement. Mr Brown said on one occasion. They were all drinking Margaritas and making fajitas. He was in the basement with them and he had a weird feeling he looked down. He noticed what he called a grave wrapped up in a blue tarp. He believed was a small body. He said they started talking about the Tara Calico case that they were searching for her and they began talking about how they raped and killed her. Mr Brown said he knew the kids because he had worked at the school and he knew these kids smoked weed and skipped school. Mr Brown said one of them used to be her girlfriend and one of them was jealous. It's Kinda of hard to follow the narrative but try to bear with me here. They started talking about another friend that had been out with them named Leroy Chavis. They talked to him about what they had done. And they warned him not talk about it or they would come and get him. They said they were driving. One of the guys older trucks that day and they all knew that she wrote her bike down that highway. They explained that they hit her with the truck and they put her in the back with Leroy they took her out to the gravel pits where they raped her Lawrence Romero. Junior said she got ballsy stood up and was going to make sure they were all going to jail to he went. You got a knife from the truck and David Leroy and him held her down while Lawrence stabbed and kilter. He said they drug her body and put her in a Bush nearby until they got when the search started for her. He said they joked and they kept her nearby. Mr Brown believes she was under the tarp hidden in the basement. Because no one would know to look for her there. He said this whole thing had to do with drugs that Jefferson Lawrence sold drugs and the only reason they never got caught was because his dad was a sheriff and they say that dad hired a deputy who later became a sheriff. Deputy had their back. He said your sheriff there is not innocent. He just kept saying that. Deputy has back. Mr Brown said that kept talking about a pond out by the property owned by the redhead guy near the mountains. They believe that they took her body out to the pond on the property and they believe they took the bikes the junkyard and Bland and got rid of it. He kept saying that this is all about drugs. So this is kind of the the theory that Melinda landed on based on this one of these interviews but there are several other interviews. That kind of corroborate this idea. I don't know it's hard to say we'll follow up was done after this this interview the ramming that sounds pretty credible that sounds like a pretty legit story but like I said once again people make up stuff all the time psych like I mean like yeah but you don't ever know his relationship to these guys either his bullies. I mean it's just hearsay exactly but it's pretty. I agree with you. It is pretty convincing so later. The interviewer was contacted by Melinda. Sql about this report and the tapes of this interview. He was advised that there was a record that he had taken the report but there was no report or any documentation of any tapes that were placed into evidence. She had the report number of the missing report but there was no report it was not in the case file was gone. And so we're the recordings for the tape. Yeah so the tape of this interview is gone. Why Gosh I've had a lot of people? Wish they could find that. Yeah I mean that. That's pretty compelling and so that kind of gives me the idea that maybe this is a real story a real account of something because why would it just disappear less? Someone is trying to protect somebody right. Okay so there's a bunch more in this document I mean it just goes on forever so many people a lot of the stories are claiming the same thing that basically Lawrence and these guys killed her and her body so all four of these people that were named I believe all four of them are dead now and one died. Lawrence died allegedly playing Russian roulette. Okay maybe okay. Another guy was hit by a car. Run over so who hit him? And why there's no there's no information on that. I don't know the other two guys but I did remember reading that. They are all dead Russian roulette and just getting hit by a car run that we addressing relaxed pretty weird you very often. I mean maybe there's people that are that stupid. Apparently that's I guess you by the American Russian Roulette League so it's just a dark depressing horrible case. There was also a rumor that there's a woman who has his body in a freezer at her house. Beer okay people should probably go check that out. I mean just because even if it's not are not just in. She has a body in a freezer. You've sat out as maybe call that person and see what's going on okay with Yeah some lady just called and said Hey I know what's up? She's in my freezer lady calling someone called on her. Oh Okay Yeah. This lady's got her in the freezer. Did there's no follow up on that. Really either yeah. So that's probably ds to them. It's probably again somebody trying to get revenge on someone else. So there are a lot of rumors. There's a lot of missing evidence. There's a lot of potential suspects in this case and I was telling you by text this week that he is going down the rabbit hole with this story. It's just every time you think you've got somewhere there's a new twist to it. There's a new angle. There's somebody saying something different. It's all so convoluted and I think maybe that's on purpose Conveniently convoluted what an insane story And it's thirty two years and it's just everyone goes in circles. It's just it just even for a short time that I've been doing some digging on this story of I found myself in you know because I was texting you. I'd just be like Oh my God but wait what what is it. What is this you know? I was hearing stories that. Oh we saw in California She's fine something. You know People were you know trying to help out as much as they cutter. I don't I don't know But for some reason is cases it's never gotten anywhere then when you start looking From the internal aspect of it what was going on with Investigations and everything. Then you start seeing why. Maybe this been so long to be able to be solved. Which is unfortunately this is not. It's not right. I feel really bad for her family. Her mom passed away never knowing what happened to her daughter and it really listening to them. Talk about her sounded like they loved her very much like she was very much loved and wanted and a very big part of that families lives. And it's heartbreaking that something this terrible. Whatever happened to her was terrible. It's it's sad that happened in. It's sad that there is no justice for her and that this case is not salt. It doesn't it doesn't make any sense in the FBI is working on it. I know like throughout my watching different things and reading Fbi still is. I had their tip line. You know they're still looking the county sheriff's I know they're still saying hey you know anybody come forward you know even the littlest thing like. I know we're her. Bike is Just something the FBI. I did offer a twenty thousand dollar reward as of October of last year for any information that leads to either Tara's whereabouts or the conviction and arrest of the people responsible for her disappearance. Sounds like she had a bright future ahead of her and it was stolen from her If you have any information you're asked to call the FBI at five. Oh five eight eight nine thirteen hundred. You can also call the Valencia County Sheriff's Office as well as the Bernalillo County sheriff's Office. Those two offices are still involved in the investigation as well. But it's too sad terrible case. I probably didn't do justice to Tara Story and I feel like willfully inadequate not willfully but like I feel completely inadequate in in reporting this story. Because I don't feel like I was able to present her as a person in the way I wanted to and and I feel bad about that because for anybody who listens to my show. That's really important to me. You know I hope that I did some semblance of of a decent job for her and her family and if you know anything just call somebody any anything else you want to add or any recommendations you have for the listeners or anything that you want to say. I want to say something to you but I'll ego I imagine. Thanks for having me on the show again. I enjoyed this It's a it's a good opportunity. Especially now I'm cooped up in my house to see. Somebody's awesome. Get to talk about a really awesome story. Thank you I'm glad to have. You can't wait to have you on another episode. We're already talking about that. That would be another rabbit hole. One that we're probably not gonNA do justice to either be a big one to a two or three partner. We might have to see how that goes. Yeah right but yeah. Let's let's start working on that one and bring something else interesting in different from this To these listeners. So cool man awesome. Thank you thank you This is true consequences be true. Crime and mystery podcast the stories based in New Mexico and the American desert southwest.

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The MMA Reporters: Episode 27

Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

1:09:58 hr | 2 years ago

The MMA Reporters: Episode 27

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This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease in Detroit Role Cal on this Wednesday July twenty four two thousand nineteen welcome back to a brand new episode of the reporters right here on E._S._p._N.. If you're wondering why I sound this way well it's because I think I lost my voice if you notice and if you listened or watch Monday show gradually throughout the show my voice was starting to change and I didn't think it was that big of a deal but come Monday night it was problematic yesterday. It was really bad today. I thought I was turning the corner but now I feel like I am not and it's quite painful. If I'm being honest now the story I'm telling other people is that I'm so excited about U._F._C.. Two Forty and I've been shouting on all the rooftops here in New York City about how great the main event is and the Co main event is but the reality is I think my son was sick and gave it to me over the weekend anyway. I'm still here. I'm still going to Edmonton and I'm very excited about it all anytime I get to go back to Canada data rates city of Edmonton. I've been there once before you have see to fifteen to be exact a couple years ago. It's always very exciting and I have said time and again that the arena there rogers place is maybe the best arena in North America as far as the ones that I've been too. I think it's the nicest they did phenomenal job if you're able to go to that I read that arena. If it's for this weekend's Card or some other card I highly recommend it. It's beautiful and so of course today on the show. We'll talk about U._F._C. Two forty. She had a great guests coming on to talk about U._F._C.. Two forty robbed a mellow. WHO's a broadcaster out in Hawaii who's covered Max hallways career extensively and also knows everything about Hawaiian M._M._a.? He's GonNa Join N._S.. To talk about Max and how big a deal this is the state of Hawaiian camera looking forward to that also later in the program. We're going to talk to Adam curly. WHO's a longtime Australian journalists who knows a lot about rob whitaker of course it was officially officially announced yesterday that Robert Whitaker's Israel to Sonya is going to happen on October fifth at Marvel Stadium formerly known as Eddie Hod Stadium in Melbourne Australia the biggest card at least it's expected to be the biggest card and Australian Australian M._M._A.? History they're expecting sixty thousand fans so that's very exciting. <hes> we'll get adams thoughts on how big of a fight this is Robert Whitaker of course he's been booked in Australia twice in rose had to pullout due to freak <hes> health issues and maybe get a little insight into the history of the rivalry between New Zealand than Australia because I feel like we here in the United States. Don't really understand it but there's a rich rivalry there. There's a deep rivalry there and they are going to tap into that has Israel Sonya faces Robert Whitaker to unify the title on October fifth so that's later in the program before we get to our first guest a couple of news notes <hes> it was officially announced this morning thing that Chris Wiedeman will in fact move up to five. He's going to be making his light-heavyweight debut against one dominic race on October eighteenth in Boston good news that he's not fighting in New York City because New York City and Madison Square Garden in particular has been house of horrors for Chris Why ben so it's going to be <hes> to oh five for wide men and it's going to be dominic grace next and with Luke rock hold losing earlier this month. I think the number one contender spot is online it. That'd be nice if they just come out and say it because otherwise I thought wiedeman should fight someone like over at the Shera but in this particular case they're putting him in there against a youngster and undefeated Guy Guy who's on a roll in Dominic Grace and yes. I know his last fight wasn't the most spectacular fight the winner Vulcano Cedomir here but still <hes> the guys on a roll and he was in those talks to fight John Jones speaking of John Jones. Yes he has found himself in some some hot water once again. We'll get into that in a moment but he does want to return on December fourteenth. His team doesn't seem to think that <hes> this latest incident will derail or delay his comeback. He was teasing yesterday on twitter about Madison Square Garden. <hes> the latest. I've heard is that it's still December fourteenth. He just likes to do this from time to time and right now I would say the front runner to face him is Corey Anderson and so we'll see how that plays out so that's the story to five. Also of note on Nick Newell has signed with Delatour and <hes> that's that's exciting for Bell Tower because he sells a lot of tickets and <hes> he will be fighting in his home state of Connecticut. He'll be fighting on August twenty fourth in Bridgeport Connecticut and he'll be going up against Cory Browning. WHO's on some kind of role as far as is knocking off prospects or people who are popular? He has a win over Kevin Ferguson Junior and has a win over Aaron chalmers so I like the fact that they're putting him in there against Nick Newell Newell has signed just a one fight deal fighting on the prelims. It's really just the play to sell tickets but hates the opportunity that he wanted. He gets in there on a big show and if he gets a win they're going to keep them around. There's no doubt about that so this is what he asked for and I think the fact that they're in Connecticut helped him because he's a huge huge local draw there in Connecticut so that's the Nick Newell Story reported yesterday that Ben Aspirin and Damian Maya is being discussed for later this year. I think a lot of people misunderstood my tweet aspirins. Medical suspension is up in September. The fight isn't being discussed for September's for later in the year but that's the one they're discussing not finalized not done all that stuff. You know the usual stuff you'll see will change things on dime but that's the one they're targeting for both guys and <hes> it seems to have been met with a lot of excitement. A lot of people seem to like it also another fight that <hes> is being discussed and perhaps a lot closer to being finalized other return of year Rodriguez <hes> he really wanted exhibit Magomed Sharipov. That's the fight that his team told me that they really wanted <hes> but it doesn't look like that fight is going to happen. They WANNA save the bead for Russia for later this year and they want your year to fight in September in Mexico City so I'm hearing the front runner now to fight year is Jeremy Stevens and <hes> that would be an opportunity for a year to keep rolling after his win over the cream Zombie and a big opportunity for Jeremy Stevens to get back on track as well and it would be a main event fight B._J.. Dot Com reported reported recently that <hes> the Korean Zombie versus Brian Ortega's being discussed for that card as well. We will see if that comes to fruition right now. <hes> bryner ticket isn't doing a lot of talking maybe some <hes> some secret messages on on instagram and whatnot but it would make sense to try to get the cream Zombie in their early if they wanted the fight in December on that card in South Korea John Edwards of course is coming off that big win over R._D._A.. On Saturday Eh and now we wonder what's next for him and we wonder if he's going to get her. Hey Maswadeh. We wonder if he's going to get <hes> title shot against Kamara boozman. There's a lot at stake there so up I on the program is our own mark Monday of E._s._p._N.. To talk about that and other topics mark how're you. I just WanNa say you made me talk for like eight minutes. There and I have no voice and your dislike gallivanting around Edmonton while I'm dying over here so thank you very much for being so tardy give you if by gallivanting you mean sitting in my hotel room writing articles. Oh it's all about you. Isn't it mark. It's all about you well. What happened to your voice well? It's <hes> it's apparently not around. I've lost. It can't find it where to go. I don't know maybe I'll find it in Edmonton tomorrow. You see what happens when you eat that well-done steak that exist you know. Can I say one quick thing about the well don stake it is so fascinating to me because this is a real commentary to social commentary on humanity. Why do you care the way I my steak? I don't care the way you your steak but yet this bothers people because of Matiz Mo and the Alpha males out there. They need to cook their take certain way. No one cares that's all. I'm trying to prove here then. I feel like I've proven that point. I still think you're out of your mind but hey we can we can carry on all right <hes> so we'll go from that. It's it's very hard to make this transition but <hes> I did WanNa talk about something very serious right off the top of the show and I was waiting for you to come on because this is one of those things where it doesn't necessarily fit in the May bubble <hes> but I think it's on everyone's mind and it's a combat sports story and I think everyone has a heavy heart art after hearing the news that the twenty eight year old maxine deductive be boxer who competed on Friday in Maryland on E._S._P._N.. Against Super Ya'll Matiz <hes> sadly and tragically passed away <hes> yesterday due to injuries that he sustained sustained in that fight by now you've probably seen the footage of his head coach Buddy mcgirt urging him to to to stop fighting going into the Twelfth Round <hes> a lot of people may not know but the fight did get called off at that point but just seeing the footage of mcgirt trying to get him to say I'm done is heartbreaking in hindsight and it was heartbreaking while knowing that he was in the hospital and it's even more tragic after the fact and so you know again. It's not an M._A.. Story but it's a combat sports short story and I don't know if now is even the appropriate time to talk about. You know what can boxing do or what's the difference in Boxing M._M._a.. Why one say for the other but I'm just curious and I've talked about this with get Davies on this program as a combat sports enthusiasts Lucius and as someone who covers combat sports for living in loves combat sports? How do you digest news like this? How do you feel after hearing us like this? Young man died only because of the injuries that he suffered in a combat combat sports contests. I'm reminded of Howard Cosell who later in his life and career turned on boxing and said he didn't WanNA support boxing anymore because he saw what happened to Muhammad Ali and others. What are the emotions that you go through as someone who earns a living covering this but also loves the sports very much when you hear news like this if it's really tough aerial and and you feel like it's a sport it's it's it's combat but also a sport and you're you're supposed to feel like if everyone does everything right commission mission the referee corner the fighters if everyone does everything right the fighters will end up with with some semblance of safety at the end of the night <hes> and in this case it kind of through that idea right in its face because everyone pretty much everything right in this scenario including maximes coach Buddy mcgirt who as you said convinced convinced him and convinced <hes> the referee and and about after the eleventh around <hes> because he was taking too many shots so to to to know that he then later passed away even though everyone kind of went through the motions and everyone abide by the rules and you know this was not a case of a commission boxing something like we saw in New York <hes> with <hes> with that with that boxer a few years ago <hes> it's it's a hard pill to swallow it really really is because you know when we cover the sport when we write about these these commissions and the regulations and then certainly seems like those things are in place to protect the fighters what happens when everything goes right and a fighter still dis <hes>? It's it's. It's got really hard one that it's a really hard one you bring up a great point because this wasn't <hes> a mismatch. It wasn't a lopsided match <hes> he's not a journeyman. He's not a guy was taken a ton of damage. He was undefeated. It was a very close fight on paper. The odds makers had as a close fight so it's really <hes> it's really something that it's hard to derive any answers from or anything that we can do in the future to try to avoid it and when I say we I mean the people who are in charge of sanctioning and protecting these fighters in my biggest takeaway. Is You know something that I wrote yesterday <hes> and that I've talked about before about fans you know booing fighters or mocking fighters after a loss or mocking them when they say no moss like Roberto Duran how there's a stigma attached to that has that there is a stigma attached to throwing in the towel quote unquote we saw what happened Raquel Pennington and that story when she fight Amanda Nunez and I hope that we remember that these fighters are quite literally fighting for their lives out their their lives are on on the line. <hes> the worst thing imaginable can happen in these fights and so I hope people remember that and I know that they're paying a lot of money for these tickets and I know that there's alcohol involved sometimes but when you're sitting there booing to individuals were stuck in a cage try hi to beat each other up and the only way that they could win is to inflict damage <hes> or get someone into chokehold or some kind of crazy manure. Remember what is at stake that you know sometimes. It's a chess match. Sometimes fireworks aren't going to happen these are they're not playing. 'EM Even playing boxing and I hope that if there's one lesson for the fans that can be learned from all visits that is to respect these fighters always at all times because what they're doing is really serious. Business it is it is a weird culture and I feel like it is more than it is boxing where the fighters are treated like their video game characters or their action figures on you know <hes> in like a you know a kids replace that it's not that way. These are these are real human beings with real lives with real families their their fathers their mother there so one son there someone's daughter <hes> and the way the things that get set to them on social media and the way that some fans conduct themselves at the event is really appalling to me. It's it's really one of the things that I like the least about and the May <hes> and it's going to do with the fighters do with the culture around the sport and I don't own and I don't know why that is I don't know how we got to this point but it is very disturbing and this is another reminder that these are real. He's a real people and and any every single time they go into the octagon or the cage aged the ring they are like you said putting their lives on the line and Tabu them because they go for take down or it's a boo them because it's a it's a grappling match and not Rackham sock. 'em robots out there. It is <hes> it is really the entertainment sports but it is it is a very serious very dangerous sport. It's a very it's a very scary way to make a living and I just wish that and and maybe maybe this changes things. I know it's Boston on but I just wish that culture changed a little bit. I don't know how we got to this point but some of the some of the venom and by Licey against fighters about social media really turns my stomach and <hes> I love the the rock of soccer robots line because I've I've referenced that as as well Oh someone gets knocked out put them in their six days notice two days notice one day like come on there's a lot that goes into these fights and they're not just toys that you take out of the cupboard and put them in your toy ring and they fight it out on. It and I hope that we recognize that and you know it's interesting yesterday. I was talking to Dana cormie about this. They asked him if he saw the clip of Buddy mcgirt urging maxine to stop fighting and he said he hadn't and I said I just texted it to you and I was just curious. You know how he took it in how he digested it because I think it's it's differ than us. He's going to look at or any fighters going to look at this incident through a different Lens and he said I. I don't know if I want to watch this right now. I don't know if I could do that and I thought that was fascinating. Here's a guy who's going into a fight. In a month and knows the dangers knows what can happen and I think they all kind of compartmentalize things and put things off to the side and don't WanNa think about these things but these things are very real. According to our stats and Information Group <hes> the last noted the death in boxing was in two thousand nine so it's been you know ten years or so but this is obviously happened before and Paul Simon is even talked about a recently by the way the fans in boxing treat the fighters as opposed to Emma may maybe they're they're more cognizant and sensitive to it in boxing but I think everyone can learn that we need to respect fighters a little more. I'm curious <hes> from your perspective because you're so in touch with the regulators and the officials have you heard. Have you talked to any of you know the commissioners out there any of the <hes> commissions any of the the the executive directors actors about their reaction to this or anything will be put in place or if there's any talks about what can we do differently in in the future. I know putting you on the spot here but I was just curious. Yeah I have spoken a few people about it over the last several days and nothing nothing on the record nothing nothing like that just kind of informal conversations <hes> but <hes> I think I think the sentiment is is basically boxing and they are dangerous sports their combat sports every single time aspires steps into a ring or a cage here. She is is putting that on the line and no one likes to see it and again there was nothing there was nothing regulation wise that really went wrong here and <hes> and that is one of the scary things about it. <hes> the one thing the one thing that I heard too was and and again this is. This is something that it's very anecdotal. There's nothing scientific about this. It's just something that that people have noticed over the years is that when something like this happens <hes> in in many cases it's it usually happens in long flights. It usually happens in long boxing matches. It happens even deep into it. You know a tenth around eleven th round <hes> I. I'm not saying that there's going to be any regulations in places racist short boxing but maybe it's something to look into the cumulus have damaged. It's it's it's. It's very rarely area where it's like if that one shot is that one punch or that that one you know that one knee like in the Mazda all Ben Aspirin Aspirin play that that causes things like that again this is this is not scientific. It's just anecdotal from you know from all of us watching a lot of place over the years it is it is usually the long fight. The long hard fights where there is a a an accumulation annulation up damage to the brain <hes> that is usually when this one this kind of thing happens and maybe to look at in the future. I I don't know we will see if anything comes of this but <hes> just wanted to talk about it a little at the top because <hes> you know it feels like everyone's thinking about it and everyone is kind of going through covering M._M._a.. In boxing this week <hes> with a heavy heart because of what happened and that is certainly understandable wanted to send our condolences as well to maximes family and his friends his coaches because they know they're obviously going through a very hard time right now. <hes> let me ask you about John Jones. I referenced them at the top. I spoke about the story on my show on Monday. You've done a lot of reporting on this as well and so there is no conclusion to this story and there's no real update per se we know he's <hes> his court hearing that he doesn't have to be at his in August per his team and they put out there statement as well but I find the most interesting thing to come of the story right. This moment is a <music> how John is just kind of like going about his way like he was quick to respond to it on twitter. He's talking about M._S._G.. On twitter as well <hes> <hes> late last night his team seems very confident that this will not delay as return whether it's in November for December it won't derail his career and it seems like the fans are just sort of numb to it like no one really wasn't even the biggest story it should be. The details are very troublesome but no one was really reacting to it. They were just kind of numb. Did you get that impression as well. Yeah it it. The detail details are troublesome. I I completely agree with you. I think <hes> I think the the situation here in this case is that it is it is a petty misdemeanor so it's it's pretty low. Oh level type of of situation as far as <hes> I mean as far as how the the criminal justice system in in New Mexico and Albuquerque treats it so I spoke to the <hes> <hes> the Bernallio County District Attorney spokesperson the Other Day <hes> Michael Patrick and then. He told me that this isn't a situation where it's the the D._A.. Doesn't even get involved in this it is so it is so low oh level that it isn't even something the D._a.. Comes in and prosecute. It's actually a the police just prosecuted themselves. It's it's almost like only maybe step up above like speeding ticket the way the way that it is treated in the court down there in Albuquerque so it's really not it is not a very serious thing. They're not treating it as a very serious thing in the criminal justice system. I've probably something that he'll he'll have to pay a fine for. I couldn't imagine any kind of jail time but the details they seem more serious than than being treated that makes any sense <hes> and I and I don't I don't know the exact answer as to why that is but <hes> but from purely <hes> perspective of of the of law enforcement and and criminal justice down in Albuquerque it really is not being treated as a very serious <hes> <hes> allegation yeah and his team is intriguing it as such. They seem very confident that nothing major will happen as a result this and again everyone that I spoke to was telling me he's hoping to return December fourteenth. He was talking about M._S._G.. But he's known to sort of play with the fans online as well remember when he talked about fighting steepen than like three hours later his fight against Tiago Santos was announced <hes> going into that fight against Santos in July the general consensus seem to be that his next fight would be against Luke rock hold if Luke Rock hold Juan against John Behove. It's a but of course he got knocked out and so now I'm wondering if the he Chris Wiedeman versus Dominic race winner is going to be next for John. Jones just spoke about it was officially announced earlier today. It's going to be in Boston. It's going to be on October eighteenth. They rare Friday night card a how'd you feel about this matchup in particular it being Wiedemann's light-heavyweight heavyweight debut and he's going up with their against a youngster. I thought maybe they'd eat them into things. May begin a guy like over to share. WHO's on a roll but older and be? Do you think the winner of that fight should be next for title shot assuming that Jones is GonNa Fight December fourteenth against Corey Anderson send because there's no one else at two of five. I don't think Cormie is gonNA come back that soon. Do you think that the winner of that fight should be next. It's certainly possible and and the U._F._C. and we spoken about this as well on the show. They seem to really like these young up and comer versus veteran fights recently <hes> so I just kind of fits that same bill talking about Wiedeman verses race. I think it's possible I think I think <hes> especially of Chris Wiedeman gets the win. I feel like that would be a very interesting. <hes> promotion and matchmaking for the Jones versus live and former champ coming up from the middleweight division <hes> and and raise could also make a case and and he'd Kinda young up and coming guy but wiedeman would be by his biggest win. It really just depends on how on how that plays out you know someone looks impressive but <hes> yeah I mean I it Jones comes back. I Guess Corey Anderson we'll be the person unless they unless they did something <hes> different and had them heavyweight or there was some kind of super fight they could put together but like you said they didn't gourmet doesn't seem likely to come back. I don't think <hes> I don't think brock who has coming back in December the fight John Jones but you never know <hes> but yeah I certainly see either one of that. It's only get huddled. Eliminator true or false Leon Edwards is next fight will be against or Mas Vidal or Comoros meant for the belt. ooh You know what that's a good question. I feel like the answer is true. Oh but I don't know because I still think we we need to see. There's there's one ship left to fall aerial as far as goes and that is next week Koby Covington versus Robbie lawler Newark that main event so we need to find out what happens in that fight and that will be that will go a long way into deciding who we'll get. The next title shot is it Mazda Doll is it Covington is it is it lawler probably not waller. <hes> is it is Atlanta words and then whoever that is the the other person in question might end up citing Edwards or or Covington ten or what have you <hes> or lawler. It really depends on what happens in that play but I feel like Edwards who by the way <hes> that guy is really good. Yes I mean he's really really good to do that. hoppy though Sandro so <hes> he's on a great winning streak right now I feel like even even if he's not next in line for the title or Kamaz at all I feel like he and his team. They have no problem kind of sitting out and waiting to see how everything everything plays out. I could see them waiting and being expertise about what the next fight is. If if <hes> if you get what I mean this first time in Edmonton my first time in Edmonton I how do you feel about it so far. Well I got the plane took an uber it to the hotel and <hes> I had not so. I can't really say either way how I feel that it's a wonderful city and the Edmonton Eskimos are great squad. I think we're going to go to the game tomorrow right so so today with that. Oh No no no so yesterday I had a very interesting phone interview <hes> with Roman Reigns W._w.. Fame namedrop and and and guess what he knows Edmonton very well. He played for the Edmonton Eskimos for one year Yup. Oh Wow it's funny how it all ties together. I was on the on the airport getting ready to go to Edmonton talking to a former Edmonton eskimo veteran unbelievable. That's why you're the best that's why you sound like you're nor they're able to constantly bridge the world pro wrestling to the world of M._M._a.. It's a beautiful thing bridge. It's yeah it is. Some people want to deny said bridge but we know that's not the truth. <hes> mark great stuff appreciate it. I'll see you out there. Thanks are right. There is <hes> marker Monday of E._S._P._N.. Before we get to our next guest and I'm very excited to talk to this man. 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A.. M. Dot com slash R._E._O.. Subject to credit approval rate includes point fifty percent autopay discount terms and conditions apply and offers are subject to change without notice visit light stream dot com slash aerial for more information all right. Let's get to our next guests. I'm really excited to talk to this man. He is my Bra. We've been talking over the years he covers the Hawaiian seen better than anyone and with Max Hallway fighting in his adopted home country of Canada. I thought it would be really fun to have robbed a mellow on the program he he is the K. H.. O. N. News Sports Director again. He's been covering <hes> the mixed martial arts scene in Hawaii for quite some time and he's got great knowledge of who Max Hallway is so. Let's say Aloha to the Great Rob Mellow here on the program rob. How are you doing good? Man Sounds like US yourself. A vacation in Hawaii is what it sounds like. Yes I could definitely use those a little bit under the weather. I've lost my voice rub but as you know we power through these things and I'm so excited to have you on because <hes> you know Max as well as anyone. You've been covering him for quite some time in you know the scene so well so I let me ask you when did you. I come across Max Holloway. You know the first time I ever heard of match was <hes> you know early. In his career probably his second flight <hes> he was fighting Honululu against Brighton Kamakura Commodity Obama very strong family and the mixed martial arts scene and <hes> so I was told Hey keep your on this kid before before this white and so I I saw him in that Bowden. He won that in the first round <hes> by T._K._O.. I believe and then <hes> he got a title shot right after that in Hawaii for the x one lightweight title against Harris Sarmiento who's the guy that went to high school with so I I knew how Harris was going into that fight and this was Max's opportunity to Kinda really I mean you know through the mid May seem people already knew he was talking about but this was his chance to Kinda exceed that as far as what he sports though and <hes> and it was a great fight he wanted to title <hes> that was his third fight of his career and <hes> it was shortly after that <hes> I'd say probably maybe about a year to the day around there that he got his opportunity to get a U._F._c. and <hes> so the the I sit down and interview everyday but it was the week before he left for Las Vegas to fight Dustin pedroia A- and <hes> and that was the Kinda moment that I knew that you know this guy was especially this is more than just a a good mixed martial artist more than just a prospect was listening to him talk and <hes> how insightful he was and how committed he was was how much confidence he had an so <hes> and <hes> and the rest is history <hes> from that they on <hes> been covering very closely and <hes> and you know I wouldn't say that I expected a future the hall of fame career Outta Magali but I certainly believe that you're going to be in the U._S.. Me for a long time but he exceeded expectations for sure. I was just about to ask that question if if you saw that in him when I met him but clearly didn't I didn't see it in when I I saw him. Fight Destined Pori way back when at U._F.. C. One forty three <hes> so that's fascinating to hear from someone who's been watching for so long. He's very proud of where he's from. He's very proud of wine. I and we see on the countdown. Shows you know what kind of place yes it is that it's not your typical Hawaiian setting that we think of you know <hes> here. You know people outside Hawaii. We think of Hawaii is the magical place with the beaches of what could you tell what what is wine. I like like where's he from. So why is on the west side of you of a wall who which is the capital island in the state of Hawaii and <hes> you know it's far away from on a little as far as you know. There's no quick trip to Winai no matter where you are in the island of you know. It's GonNa take did you did they get to wine I and so you know it's Kinda secluded in a way and there's not a lot of <hes> hotel activity. There's not a lot of tourist destination so it's it's just a very local community and <hes> you know over the years. It's gotten a reputation of being a tough place. You know and I think that's a lot of what matches mission was you know and even like I talked about talking to him before that doesn't oil oh you fight I mean this is a kid at the time was nineteen or twenty years old. That was talking more than just about this U._S._C. debut. You know when I would ask him questions about this debut fight in the pinnacle of I may <hes> you know he's talking about wanting to show the kids of wine is that there's another way wanting to show with hard work. You can accomplish things and I mean he's twenty years old. This isn't a guy that had to go through the you. The slums of of across the country and you know fight in Alaska one week and you know in a couple of weeks later be fighting in Iowa like a lot of the other fighters that I had to work to the U._F._C. in years past had to do <hes> this is a guy that you know it was getting a fast track but yet still understood that he was doing something more than just fighting for his career. Who's doing something for the community and so <hes> that that's Kinda why nine nut show as far as <hes> he was a guy that wanted to? Kinda carry the flag for that community and show them that there's more than justice stuff you here <hes> on on the news in the newspaper about you know this <hes> incident happening in wine I or these people being arrested in wine. I <hes> there's in great people out there hardworking people that just need to follow the right path and that's exactly what Mashallah we did how big of a deal as it now when he fights only he's defending his title and how would you compare it to when B._J.. Pen was talk of his game around nine or so years ago and use the lightweight champion and really in his prime. How would you compare the two yeah? It's really interesting. That's the question I get the most <hes> from people outside of Hawaii asking compare the you know the Mac Holloway explosion to B._J.. Pan and and I always say you know it's really hard to compare them because they came at different times. You know the the fact that B._J.. Got As popular in Hawaii as a mixed martial artist and you gotta remember this. Is You know before the U._F._C. he was on national television and before <hes> social media most importantly <hes> the fact that Bijou was able to garner the attention they did is pretty remarkable. I mean you know back then two to watch a B._J.. By you had to order your pay per view there. Is You know a bunch of people get together. You know there's no E._S._P._N.. Plus you can do it for your phone and <hes> you know even you know find illegal stream or whatever it is that that people do <hes> <hes> now you know it really took a life with of its own chains mixed martial arts and why forever P._J.. Ended so to compare the two I think would be unfair with that being said Max Holloway is a staple in Hawaii sports. <hes> I mean when you talk Marcus Mariota and Colton long deforest Buckner who's a pro bowler of from Hawaii. I mean the the major stars enforced in Hawaii. Max Holloway is at the top you know he's he's there with Marcus Mariota side by side to buy low as far as the biggest stars in Hawaiian for an enemy fighter to do that. You'd ask me twenty years ago fifteen years ago <hes> I think you'd be crazy <hes> but that's exactly what Max is done in so I mean credit needs to be given in that regard that Max is taking it to another level and I think a lot of what has to do with that is that Max relates to everybody in Hawaii the enemy fighters in the past you know people respected respect them. They loved them because they represent Hawaii and they're good at what they do. <hes> but what Max does is you know for the first time you have grandma and Grandpa you know talking about Max my my own mother. Who's never watched the U._S.? You fight in her. Life hasn't e._S._P._N.. Plus accounts and just because he wants to watch Max like so I mean that Kinda shows that the reach that he has here in the State of why have you noticed a dip in his popularity because he's coming off a loss even even though different way class for the belt of have p people change their view on him because in his last fight he finally lost no. I you know I and that was that's interesting thing right but especially in more than any other sport is is you know there's a there's an aura in a stigma that dissipates with losses <hes> that other athletes don't have to deal with <hes> and so the the night that he lost the poor that was kind of my question to myself is okay how are are people gonNA react to this in Hawaii and to be honest <hes> I think that a lot of it has to do with him going up in weight and you know some people view that as okay you know he went up to one fifty eighty five for the first time in in a real long time <hes> this was a step up and competition and to be honest I mean I don't know if there's a feeling outside of about this but there's a lot of people that thought I bet he won Brown's three or four and five in and could've walked away with that that belt that night so <hes> i. I don't think that there was any stigma loss at all as far as what Max Holloway represents here in the state and and how excited people are for this title Oh fight and I think some has to do with that is Frankie Edgar. I mean if you remember Franken be P._J.. Pan Three times at the time that B._J.. Pen was back Holloway in Hawaii so <hes> to say that people are looking forward to the Hawaiian flagging raised on Saturday night <hes> with a hopeful victory over Frankie Edgar <hes> with being under state. That's a great story line. <hes> a staple of Max Hallway fight is when he posted a picture of him. I'm visiting that statue. Can you tell us about that statue. What is it what is it represent that is King Kamehameha so that is the the first king of the White Kingdom <hes> that he united the islands and they went forward Lorde together instead of being separate islands being operated by you know their own warriors and royalty they he invited and <hes> they moved forward as a kingdom <hes> and so can command hers <hes> looked at as the great here in Hawaiian so before every fight on his way to airport Max down to the statue and take the picture and you know I I wanna say that he he has exit king meeting? I think what it is and <hes> yeah it's just a it's a nod to the past of what you for sure and <hes> and it's a nod tune when Max believes he's doing right now and that's leading people Hawaii in his own way so it's a it's a beautiful site for for anyone that not only is up wind descent but grew up in Hawaii and understands wine culture. It's a crime that he has an opportunity to fight. As you have see champion in Hawaii I know this that he's been talking about for years that you have pushing a and and we saw what happened with <unk> McFarland in December and how she came across anytime you're able to bring someone back home. They end up being a bigger star because it translates on television. It's why I think they should go to Birmingham. England with Leon Edwards in white worked so well with connor and St St Bay and Darren till in their respective hometowns. Where do we stand on that? Do you think it will ever imagine if Max Holloway becomes champion the fence the titles much as he does loses the belt and never gets that opportunity to headline it would be a crime. Where do we stand on this US yeah two years ago after the second Josie Aldo fight? I said that if it doesn't happen now it is never going to happen because really I mean. There's you know they're they're peaks that you just can't recreate and <hes> you know the fact that you know at that time Max at one twelve street and <hes> you know you beat who's considered the greatest featherweight of all time back to back. You know you have the airport arrivals where you know a thousand people show up on a Monday afternoon to greet their champion and you have all this going on at the same time you have Brad's of ours is rising <hes> into a main event slot <hes> last year I and so many other fighters <hes> and the fact that they couldn't make it work <hes>. I'm not hopeful <hes> with that being said it was a good sign that he got his closeted did <hes> you know there was a proposal for a U._F._C.. We're seeing a twenty August twenty eighteen to be held in Honolulu. <hes> you know the U._S._C. Brass came to Hawaii <hes> white tourism authority brass went up to Vegas and they met on several occasions agenda and it looks like everyone involved wanted to make it happen <hes> the problem and the part that a lot of people in white need to be realistic about <hes> because when they hear the U._S.'s asking for for a lot of money to have an event in Hawaii. I remember that you know what he's different. You gotta you gotTa travel. I mean you gotTa take everything right. I mean if there's a show in Austin Texas on on a Saturday night. <hes> you know the the ring the setup the everything that the staging aging everything that comes with a U._S.. New Show is thrown into a truck and they're already driving off to the next off man. Maybe that next might be New York or whatever it is at you can do that in Hawaii and everything that you're gonNA bring here. You're either going to leave appear because you hope for there to be future shows in Hawaii which you know if if you don't have Hawaii headliner and you don't have white champion than I don't know if if that makes sense to the U._F._C. to be holding events in Hawaii every year <hes> but but the other alternative is to put it back on a boat or whatever it is and get it Oughta here and <hes> and spend all that money that it's GonNa take to to be able to do those things so I just think that the the stars aren't aligned for for this to happen <hes> but with that being said you know the fact that had got as close as it did it at least a sign that it's something that both sides see value in it just a matter of one day accomplishing some kind of middle ground to to make it work speaking of Lima Lay <hes>. I've noticed that she's been very active on social media this week. I'm talking about an issue a very tense issue. That's happening in Hawaii but I will admit I'm not an expert. I don't quite understand what is going on. I noticed that yesterday Max Hallway wrote a very long post about this. Could you explain to us what's going on <hes> in Hawaii right now and <hes> it sounded like Max was getting pressure from people to speak up about it because he's in the limelight and if from your understanding that as accurate as well if people were trying to look to him because he's so famous he's fighting right now <hes> and there's a spotlight on them that they were looking to him to do something about this. Yeah the best way way for me to explain it. I it's a lot like the Dakota access pipeline protests from a couple of years ago. <hes> essentially what it is is there is a mountain on Hawaii island which is the big island <hes> called molineaux okay and it's <hes> largest mountain very high pink and it's <hes> viewed as <hes> a sacred land to the People Hawaii and sacred in regards to it was <hes> Landau royalty land of the King King and Queen <hes> and the thirty meter telescope is being built up there and what the thirty meter telescope is is <hes> eighteen in story telescope that takes by five Acre footprint <hes> on this mountain and so you have <hes> a lot of wind people that are up there protesting saying that this thing should not be built on there's mountain <hes> and at the same time the the constructors of the telescope or saying hey we went through everything that we had to go through <hes> we went through all the environmental studies we went through legally everything we needed to to make this thing build and you're supposed to start building his past Monday and that didn't happen because protesters blocked the road and and so that's where we're at right now is and is a very touchy subject here. It's a very sensitive subject because you know the battle of <hes> you know astronomy and learning and you know this is a telescope that according to the scientists must be built on that mountain because there's nowhere else in the world that will allow the telescope to work in the way that it does atop Mona Care <hes> because of the height because of <hes> the the wind up there because of the visibility everything they this is the the only place for that the Hawaiian people were saying we understand Dan that but this is not the place to be had built this a secret land and I think then you start getting into you know some some messy subjects where you know it ceded land where it's protected by a lot of conversation laws <hes> yet thirteen telescopes smaller telescopes have been builds up there so a lot of the activists saying hey when is enough enough and so that's where we're at right now. This thing has been on going on for over a week. <hes> you have a on average a thousand people <hes> essentially camping of their blocking this road of for the last seven days and so Malays made away their B._J.. Pen a lot of people are very strong on this and I will say if you have time to go and read Max Holloway's post <hes> because really the insane thing about all of it is that you know there's so many <hes> sides to this and and people are so vitriolic about whether you're on one side or the other gun ugly on social media and it's incredible that a mixed martial artists from wine I is the one that probably puts the most profound thoughtful and understanding down there <hes> regarding this subject so just shows out special Mac Holloway is as a person and and as someone who represents the Hawaii for sure. It's amazing how he can not do any wrong on social media like it's one thing you know to to say the right thing whatever but like every time he post something even when he didn't make weighed against Habib and stuff with Connor and whatnot like the man is just he is he is so on point. He is so thoughtful. He has a great team around him. I know he is a very you know <hes> close knit team but I I I. I'm not well-versed in this and I really appreciate you. You educating US just reading that I'm like look at this comes from the heart <hes> and this is someone that you want to get behind. This is someone you WanNa root for. I'm just curious <hes> before you go. I've always I've always felt that there's a real relation between him and B._J.. Like he is the next B._J.. Relic Beata was kind of the guy who put Hawaiian man the map and it feels like there was a passing the torch be. I don't feel like their support there. Is there a backstory between him and B._J.. No not really you know they did media with me. <hes> the U._F._C. came down <hes> this was wanna see right before maxes cub Swanson fight and <hes> and you have seen Mac and D._J.. Together and they did a media tour and so they're in my studio and you know we're all talking story having good time and everything was cool and and I don't think that you know it's gotten uncool. As time has gone on. I just think that these are two guys at two different times of their life and <hes> you know don't live on the same island and don't cross paths a lot you know and you gotta remember. You know you know B._J.. Wasn't fighting for a good amount of time before he returned from retirement and so so I just don't I don't think there's a lot of crossover and and <hes> not to you know extend to make this a bigger thing but I think that's something that's important with with Max. <hes> that wasn't there in maybe four is that you know a lot of people. We're actually coming up to the thing that he always was. You need to get away. You need to leave you need to like you have a bright future. You can't do it here. In Hawaii and I think a lot of people thought that because when you look at B._J.'s career you know the most successful run he had and where he was the most dominant what I think a lot of people look back in they remember the most of B._J.. Is Lightweight title run where he was training with Marina Vich and so that Kinda like became the narrative that like if you really WanNa be the best you can be you gotta leave Hawaii and work with these trainers rayner's with Max did was treat his own little world class system in Hawaii and I think that speaks volumes to what Max is done to change M._M._a.. In Hawaii I mean when you look at his <hes> striking coach Ivan Floors Ju- Rounding Lazaros and his strength and conditioning coach Darren yet I mean these are three. These are three different places that that Mac os to <hes> to do is training and you wouldn't believe how many other fighters are now following suit where they're they have a boxing coacher. It's part of the island they go to their Ju Jitsu guy and then they go their strength on that was in that wasn't done before everything was Kinda done in a house and and <hes> <hes> a lot of credit needs to be seeing given to to match for for changing that and I think that's what I mean by you know these guys that don't have a lot in common outside of representing the State of Hawaii and being a figure that are revered here in the state outside of that. I mean you know it's twenty year old and thirty or twenty-seven-year-old holding a thirty-seven-year-old <hes> they they just don't go to the same places they they don't have the thing training partners on. They're just not a bunch of guys that that would cross paths a lot such create inside raw really appreciate this. This is robbed mellow. I Love Cage O.. N. News a great follow for interested in in Hawaiian remain Hawaiian Sports <hes> I loved the tweet that you have pin right now <hes> because I think that Max's Hawaiian kickboxer walkout is is one of the best in the sport right now and <hes>. So you have a great sort of <hes> owed to that and <hes> a nice little music video and a story on that as well so <hes> it was really great to have you onto to learn more about him into just sort of set the table for this title fight on on Saturday what it means to Max what it means to Hawaii I I loved every minute of it so thank you very much for doing this especially early in the morning over there in Hawaii Rob all the best to and we'll talk to you very soon anytime you take care of yourself all right there. He is Mahalo to Rob de Mello of K. H.. O. N. and news before we get to our next guest very quickly. WanNa tell you about our good friends over at cheap. He'd have been telling you about them every single week. They're great. People Stack Guy Greg Peter Rosenberg they do a great show. If you're fan of pro Raslan and this week on cheap the boys talk about the mess that was the raw reunion shocker dive into the mail bag and discuss the fall of Hulk Hogan. That's cheap heat and you can find it wherever you get your podcast all right so now this is fascinating because robbed mellows those in Hawaii and it's around eight fifty five A._M.. Over there on July twenty four th so he's just starting July twenty fourth now. We're going to go from Hawaii to Sydney Australia where it's very early in the morning on July twenty fifth almost twenty four two hours difference between two twenty I think to be exact that's fascinating in its own right on blown away by this very thankful that Adam curly longtime <hes> sports journalists in Australia is kind enough to be waking up very early. I think it's now four fifty four A._M.. Over there on July twenty fifth I'm almost embarrassed to have asked him to do this but he's kind of to come on to talk to us about the magnitude of U._F._C. Two forty-three which of course goes down October fifth year in America but October six in in Australia. Rob Whitaker is route Asana Adam. How are you thank you so much for doing this morning? Area now I think having me Oh good morning to you as well yes and <hes> I'm a little under the weather in case. You're wondering about the voice yes. This is me <hes> Area Hawaiian in and I'm really happy that you're able to come on so you don't cover m._M._a.. <hes> as much as you as you did in the recent past now you're covering the A._F._l.. Correct correct listening in in America that they Australian rules full so <hes> not doing much you see used to still still really kane and keeping up on all the news of course yes so tell me about U._F._c. two forty-three it was just announced it. It's going to happen <hes> at the Marvel Stadium formerly known as Eddie Hod Stadium in Melbourne Australia of course we remember you've see one ninety three holly home versus <hes> Ronda Rousey would a big event that was still to this day the highest attendance for U._F._C. event fifty six thousand plus and they're expecting it. This could do around sixty thousand. Do you think that's a doable number. Do you think that this is that big of a deal yeah. Absolutely I think it's basically as well as the Headline Act <hes> hopefully we we know he's had some bad locked in the past actually to Thomas Charon Fahim that <hes> the the buzz around the see me and Australian online at US things huge <hes> nobody he's the so proclaims schools capital of Australia but <hes> but that will back that stadium out the also has the Grand Farnell super bowl the week before and I'll get around Tony to one hundred thousand people to that guy so that seasonal be either <hes> the rugby lady grandfather and always that gnawed on the Sunday but that seems to see me here at C. V. so probably they'll be not all the competing sport you know a lot Sunday die so <hes> especially with real headlining <hes>. It's going to be massive. It's just it's just funny <hes> talking that such a massive event in Melbourne win four or five years ago and all that say <hes> to Kaige's banned in Melbourne when we had to love Victorian governments actually get you see through inside now. These believe that says worst visit Victoria into Melvin to you know really promote the C._d.. So so <hes> it's messy about here in stride and it's just great to have a headline act as as a Lego boy so it's interesting because it is a local boy and because there's a rivalry there but as you mentioned last February February of two thousand eighteen he was supposed post the headline against Your Romero and then he pulls out in January just a few weeks before because of the <hes> the internal the stomach staph infection that he was suffering from and also the chicken pox and then this past February he's supposed to headline again in Australia Australia and he pulls out on just hours notice because he suffers from that internal hernia and the collapsed bowel so do you think that there are fans out there who are like come on. I'M NOT GONNA buy tickets. He's not going to show up. I'M GONNA wait till closer to the event just to see if he makes it because it's hard to go back to the same market for third time after the last two times have fallen through yeah. Now I think so think <hes> I think of these sports fans really get on their athletes. Nothing give run realizes roll out of control not he's had a couple of free <hes> illnesses and <hes> I think a lot of phones will tell well now. I will be coming see being state <hes> a lot of fun originally from Western Australia Australia and my friends at Rudy talking about blowing tickets and coming to see him <hes> robes a great God and I think you've run real US thought to be too bad luck with illness and <hes> the U._S._A.. Got Put on a great cod as they you're wasting so I think a lot of people <hes> little take their fact enroll <hes> vaccines and especially being such a huge thought and I really exciting Florida. I'm expecting against Israel so unexpected. Take yourself to take any <hes>. He's it's because of what's happening in the past. My understanding is there's a rich sporting rivalry between New Zealand and Australia at a Sayas born in Nigeria trains out of Auckland. New Zealand and Rubber Whitaker was actually born in New Zealand of course now resides and trains trains out of Sydney before asked about their particular rivalry is in fact true that there is a deep robbery there and and how how intense is it is. It is like New York and Boston if you're familiar with that here in the United States will could you quit it so that we understand it here. I think it's quite as intensive the Yankees Red Sox Yankees Fan so not exactly what what that sort of rivalries. <hes> is a pretty fierce rivalry <hes> Australia New Zealand silence. I guess in the rugby at Willoughby's New Zealand's lots of a really blown history <hes> in the rugby and the creek which I know you guys ever. They don't really so much about <hes> we. We have a really feast robbery but it's more respectful robbery. I think a strong England in sport is more fierce and there's more hatred and it's it's <hes> I think to remember recipes and then George Soros back in the other smashes she's on the ultimate Sada that sort of thing but some strategies and K we get them pretty well and so respectful robbery and I think because we say Cli- some Cy Seymour and it's off the people that we are but some muscle Robin Israel have that for the robbery leading up to the phone. I guess more from Israel's so I'll be more <hes> trust to okay and that sort of thing but yeah the the rover us is huge. <hes> it's just more respectful full if you can and I guess concluded that way. Is there any concern that it will get ugly because I know that out assign yeah has called Robert Whitaker a fake New Zealander and also think ozzy as well and he he's used the term turn for him which escapes me at this time and then whitaker said well you're not even from New Zealand and so feels like we're tapping into something here is there. Is there any <hes> is there any concern that this might get ugly like you know rob as always been a very respectful guy doesn't talk trash but we're starting to get a little agitated in the early stages of this of this promotion. What do you think yes? It's funny just thinking about I don't think it will rub Scott on I think both guys really respectful Pixel of each other's talents and <hes> the people that they I think as we know the fuck business does can to ten people little bit. I think Israel mark <hes> get more on the trash stroke. I think then rogue will eventually if he does get in that fatherm up <hes> encouraging someone Israel because as you say wrote usually respectful and doesn't get into that sort of it too much but I don't swell up to two dove into that too much time you never know <hes> in a thought game was a two Prambanan these things again one possible. He's being disrespected him off back but I think that'll be one of the more interesting things about the up to the fought where you rank rob right now. As far as the most popular ozzy athletes is he up there with with the biggest names do feel like he still because he's a cage fighter do you still you think he still has a little more work to do. Maybe after this fight that puts him over the edge or as rob whitaker news is that is that national sports news Dow gays or I guess he's probably about very without football players in terms of popularity popularity and and that sort of thing definitely that I'm the one <hes> fodder in Australia <hes> you probably know Jay phone before many packing Brisbane a couple of years ago and Muendane <hes> yeah ropes different than number one and Fog Punch me and he's getting all <hes> mainstream. He's talked Jimbo in office covering you see <hes> Monrovia and the ultimate fighter not interviewed him <hes> in C._D._n.. I think I was the first passed on camera and he was just so stoked to to get that sort of coverage but now he's even the pipe is every time <hes> when you saw when this was announced the pipe is covered extensively Leonese on <hes> say they a lot more days but some he's not really up to these footballers or Andrew Bogut the united from the N._B._A.. Sort of things we found his <hes> getting more popular h dying I think once thought <hes> gets big closer at once fought to get sixty thousand people to novel stadium. Anyone's GonNa know his time where you at you ninety three now I didn't make it unfortunately <hes> but hate it was really great atmosphere and <hes> as I said a lot of people and a lot of people that on you saying <hes> from across the country traveled to to say that spectacle so expect the same thing August so it's interesting because I was at you have see one any three and of course when an event happens that is accommodating to us here in America <hes> in Australia it happens in the morning and have been Sunday morning and I felt like it was very quiet early Liane and also felt like the the stadium was so cavernous that it was Kinda hard. If you were up top to really understand what was going on you had to watch the screen for the majority of the time then of course wants the Ronda Rousey knockout happen the knockout of Ronda Rousey <hes> then everyone exploded but I'm just wondering <hes> If you have been tomorrow stadium how you feel it is you know like from viewing <hes> perspective and do fans do they care about the fact that these are these events are happening Sunday morning over there or you just accustomed listen to that because the majority of events happen here on Saturday night. I think that fought fans here used to <hes> I remember the mock bigfoot silver fought happened in Brisbane <hes> I was covering that at the time and the gates in those I've been at seven thirty in the morning and there's a lawn all the way down the streets. I don't think that tone factor also it's the events <hes> <hes> U._F._C. Talking about drink configurations full the stadium mile starting this toll around just to enhance the experience the fans and <hes> and I think getting one really Moen's what's on it starts. If if it's a legally and I think maybe that explains whether and said quite a diver from I think if the fought so they're the thought is put on entertaining faults and you'll see everybody got atmosphere. Do you think that we will see a true sell allowed and is it possible that it will end up with more than sixty thousand do it all depends on the car and on the hood you guys talk about. Maybe the winner of Metro I thank you funding Alex both Noski and <hes> we've seen some talk about Damn Khokar Eh La Quinta <hes>. I'll just depends on how many machi Fawzi U._F._C. brings puts on the thought of seats. I think thing is probably hot. If we get big names to come down to a strategy give Thomas Tixx. Get here in Tom Adjustment <hes> this I can get full elite. <hes> things goes. It's hard to Vossen. Can you crew who was like Matthews. <hes> goes that will try and get on the cod and I always pool the Australian fanzine saying I think it just depends on Paul from rolling Israel which is hockey for in the U._S._A.. Can Get a couple big names on that on that cod <hes> maybe love the cowboys running or something like that really cut through and brings fans through the tool if they can get another big like that on the car then I'll definitely syncopal it'll sell out and they sixty thousand boss last thing. Who Do you think wins? I'm ROB UTICA. I think <hes> I think that's a big surprise you <hes> you know I'm always gonNA back. The religious think <hes> having saying he's fought so use the couple against you just think he's got that thing is with <hes> fathers can be talented and we're trying harder. Hold things I think when it comes down to wheeling how things ropes advantage over Israel Israel's amazing skills and I think he's going to be right sought of just think <hes> robes in the end his wheeling hot. We're getting along if he can get a hundred percent training camp <hes> so bad had and stay healthy one hundred percent in coming to that thought healthy. I think he gets the job done Adam. I really appreciate you doing this especially especially so early in the morning over there thank you for the inside. It was phenomenal and if you're interested in Adams A._F._l.. Coverage Checkout A._F._l.. Dot Com dot A._U.. Perhaps we'll see you over there in Melbourne in in October. Thank you again for doing this Adam. We really appreciate you Dan here. The fought all right there is Adam curly longtime journalists as he said it has been covering Robert Whitaker for quite some time and <hes> yeah this the Saturday's fight between Max Hallway and Frankie Edgar is connected to U._F._C. Two forty-three in October because I expect them to try and get the winner of that main event to fight Alex can off ski perhaps in the combing event and that would certainly help help them get to that sixty thousand plus number. I was there for that fight against Ronda Rousey Ronda rousey versus Holly Home Back in two thousand and fifteen and I'm looking forward to being back in October for this one auber Whitaker's great also great fight acts Alway Frankie Edgar. I am hanging on by a threat but we have fought through and I'm also looking forward to Chris cyborg versus police Spencer Mark Romandie as a story Roy right now on E._S._p._N.. Andy Capping Chris cyborgs likely next stop regardless of what happens this weekend but I wanted to save that discussion for next week because I do think this weekend's result against Felicia Alicia Spencer will determine where she goes. If she wins she has all the leverage every momentum pieces in her favor but <hes> if she loses does Pelata water does the A._F._C. won or does rise in water. It's going to be very interesting a lot at stake for Chris cyborg Org specially coming up that knockout laws but also on at SEIC for Felicia Spencer who right now wants to be put on that fasttrack so that you have to forty and Edmonton I will be there and also WanNa remind you. My radio shows on live eight thirty P._M.. Eastern time this Saturday they will be will be on during the fights during the prelims so you can watch them with us like we did back at U._F._C. Two thirty nine. Thank you very much Mark Roe Monday. Thank you very much to Rob Mellon Adam curly again. Thank you very much all of you for listening. Thank you for subscribing and downloading and rating.

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04-13-21 Elevated alcohol sales concerns health and safety experts

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04-13-21 Elevated alcohol sales concerns health and safety experts

"Walk into native america calling from studio eight six nine in his letter pueblo. I'm teruyuki for alcohol. Sales surged at the start of the covid. Nineteen pandemic now a year later. They are some signs of level or not but numbers remain. High researchers are looking into whether sales numbers mean in overall increase for carrying indication of something else. We'll take a look at the current trends and how they square with what native treatment centers in health officials are seen. We live right after national needed news. This is national native news. I'm antonio gonzalez new community based school in rapid city. South dakota will immerse students and lakota language and culture. The effort is response to the refusal by state and local leaders to open similar schools. Around the state lee strube injure reports the indian collective is behind the new school. The nonprofit organization focuses on indigenous agassi. His tried to push the state to prove schools that teach oh chetty chicagoan essential understandings that curriculum is centered around lakota and culture state. Lawmakers rejected the proposals twice. So now organizers are taking the idea into their own hands. Sarah pierces the director of education equity at indian collective. She says the new rapid city school will be designed by indigenous people for indigenous people. It will teach subjects in lakota. Nolan knows needs better than authentic community representation in so with that that will set the school apart. I think with cultural norms such as Kinship in such in the priority of language and culture as a deep imbedded foundational aspect of school. Not an elective will set us. Apart but graduation rate among indigenous students in south dakota is the lowest of any group. Pierce says the school board aimed to close that achievement gap. When we think about the an. I always say this. The compulsory imposition of education on indigenous peoples in america This school will really challenge. What has you know what history has taught us that we cannot police impose something on a demographic more than twenty percent of rapid city. School students are native american. The indian collective based in rapid city will open fund. the school. it's expected to open in the fall of twenty twenty two with forty kindergarten students the first year for national native news. I'm stupider in rapid city. The biden administration has cancelled the sale of a national archives building in seattle citing a lack of tribal consultation alaska native and pacific northwest tribes oppose the sale when it was revealed during the trump administration. They said it would display documents and artifacts and into their heritage. The plan was to rehome them in other archives facilities missouri and california. The acting director of the office of management and budget wrote a letter last week. Saying she's withdrawing approval for the sale of the archives facility. She said the process that led to the decision to sell. The building did not comply with the biden administration's commitment to consult with tribes. The alaska collection has already been displaced. Once in two thousand and fourteen. The national archives closed its anchorage branch and moved almost everything to seattle for lewis collagen. Colorado is hosting a virtual day of dialogue next week on native american boarding schools students. Educators and alumni will discuss boarding schools and tuition waivers including at fort lewis. College established a committee in two thousand nine hundred nine to examine its origin as a boarding school for native americans students and educators. From the university of minnesota morris which shares a similar history will take part in the event. It's being hosted through an initiative to bring edition scholars to campus. All sessions are open to the public. The federal emergency management agency is offering financial funeral assistance to families for cove nineteen related expenses. Applications are now being accepted through telephone assistance line. There are no online applications. At this time fema is experiencing a high volume of calls and is encouraging people to continue to try to connect the funeral. Assistance line began taking applications monday and will operate monday through friday from nine to nine eastern. I'm antonio gonzalez. National native news is produced by colonic broadcast corporation with funding by the corporation for public broadcasting support by the center for indigenous cancer research at roswell park comprehensive cancer center dedicated to cancer research medicine and cancer care for indigenous population. The no charge online risk assessment tool is available at roswell park dot org slash assess me support by the saskia chambers law firm championing tribal sovereignty and defending native american rights since nineteen seventy six with offices in washington. Dc new mexico. California and alaska native fun the native american radio network. This is native america calling. I'm tara gatewood joining new life from my homeland this year. With dewey the increase of stress during the covid nineteen pandemic is well documented job losses worries over our own health and the health of our loved ones and isolation from friends and family all contribute to personal stress levels and stress is one of the factors and increased alcohol consumption. A survey from last year published by the national institutes of health noted that people who experience stress during the pandemic reported more alcohol use in most of the people who responded said that they're drinking has increased several other studies back that up the research from the nielsen. iq found alcohol. Sales surged last year and have leveled off but are still much higher than before the pandemic our speaker today will help us understand the trends. They're seeing in native communities and circles of recovery and treatment. We'll also talk about access to recovery and treatment. Resources have changed. And you can join us to. Are you concerned about the trends and alcohol use and abuse in your native community. And how has your access to recovery. Resources changed during the pandemic. Give us a call. We're at one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight. That's also one eight hundred nine nine native and joining us today from portland. Oregon is donna brown. She is behavior behavioral health director for the northwest portland area. Indian health board. Pinci is a citizen of the choctaw. Nation are pleasure. Hever here with us. Donna welcome thank you for having me today and donna cow. We really appreciate you being here. And when we think about things that have increased or just things that have been brought about because of the pandemic really would like to get your view on just how much the pandemic has had an effect on drinking habits or alcohol abuse. Tell me more Yeah we It's the northwest portland area indian health board. We received some funding from the centers for disease control To kind of look at how behavioral health issues are being impacted by covid nineteen And so we conducted a number of focus groups and surveys kinda assess and get a sense of what is happening And i think what we're seeing in our tribal communities is an increase And a lot of different areas Mental health particularly depression and anxiety. Um suicide attempts as well as follow-through you're seeing a lot of overdose Increase overdose an increase of relapse. I'm and i think that all of these things are kind of interconnected And so we're also seeing an increase of all kinds of substance misuse In our tribal communities that are i think impacted by The levels of suicide and depression and anxiety. Into tell me more about some of the things that you discovered In just how that compares to before the pandemic You know. I think the particularly what we're hearing from our tribal communities as An urgency around being able to provide services to folks. there were a number of things. That happened You know our tribal nations Were disproportionately impacted by Positive covid cases as well as Death rates of cova And then you know our morning. Practices are bereavement practices. Were no longer being able to happen. Known the way that they were And and then you a lot of the resources that tribes have were then focused on addressing covid nineteen and that included behavioral health services We're kind of Moved and redirected to address Cove it and so consequently like a lot of the services that once were available were not available. We saw a lot of behavioral health Counselors chemical dependency. Counsellors were furloughed Early on in the pandemic. So i think that there was kind of a almost a perfect storm of of things. That happened where we've been Our communities we're gonna left to fend for themselves. They were not allowed to. You know there were. You know encouraged to not practice. Their bereavement practices because a social distancing which then increases kind of suicide depressant and when we have an increase of suicide and depression than we have an increase in in substance misuse looking towards alcohol as well as other substances which then leads them to Suicide and does rate so there were a lot of things and now we're also seeing tribes. We need to redirect services to behavioral health chemical dependency and doing suicide prevention. So we're also now seeing a lot of tries really responding In many many different ways than a murray marriott of ways to address substance misuse suicide interpersonal violence as well as overdose in so just knowing what is increased in where we are currently moving forward donnacha. What are some of the things that you think. Need to shift immediately especially when we talk about alcohol abuse. I think we need to Shift some resources towards You know substance misuse treatment and prevention You know we have a lot of communities that are shifting towards telehealth and telemedicine Platforms which i think is is helping. But we're what we're also hearing from our tribes is that They're trying to utilize these platforms and In the public health setting You know tribal members are accessing telehealth and telemedicine platforms for their services. But in behavioral health chemical dependency is low prevention. And they're really struggling with that so we've been working with a lot of our tribes to Do some training about how to engage in utilize telehealth. We're seeing tribes now. That are purchasing and computers and ipads for their tribal members so that they can access telehealth Increasing and providing hot spots and with for people to be able to access Telehealth platforms and things like that But what what they're saying is what they need is more prevention and community education Around these different issues and so. They're working now. I think to address that and to Provide more opportunities tribal communities to access prevention and community ed- education around substance misuse and suicide. I mean the impact But what also need What we're seeing is An increase to because there's an increase of behavioral health intakes. We need effective practices for t. Tell a behavioral health therapy sessions. We need psychiatry visits made available And we also need more kinda para professionals and clinical professionals to be trained and Providing services in those communities in so what about the people who are receiving services. What are you hearing from clients You know we've been Doing some behavioral health echoes We started doing those. And so we've heard from From those folks who are participating those in there for the clinical practitioners and stuff That what they're hearing from their communities that kind of Amidst trust of telehealth platform Around confidentiality you know. We were asking people to join behavioral health sessions online. And you know they might not have access to privacy or space Which is also inhibiting their their desire to participate Again you know just having access to bandwith so that it's not breaking up and things like that I just think that there's were kind of on. A learning curve is steep learning curve here both for the professionals as well as clients be able to trust and and feel safe accessing behavioral health services via telehealth platforms But You know we are seeing A desire Both from professionals as well as community to engage in services and access services we do have some tribes. We have one tribe in the pacific northwest has just opened a facility And they're providing. You know chemical dependency counseling from an Integrated health perspective And we're really excited about that. So we think that tribes are really responding in the best ways that they can right now to The increase in substance misuse and their tribal communities will thank you for that don. Donald brown is here with us today. She is the behavior health director for the northwest portland. Area indian health born and Hearing a little bit about you know when we think of this coming to our communities a lot of coverage goes on nationally about alcohol abuse on the rise because of the pandemic alcohol sales increasing. But how does that affect specifically are tribal communities. That's what we're focusing in on today. Maybe you are working in the arena of helping those in your tribal community with alcohol abuse and you have some thoughts to say. Maybe you've had to get really creative During the pandemic if there's something you'd like to share or maybe just advice for other healthcare professionals go ahead and dial in one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight is a number and when you hear the different things that contribute to alcohol abuse during the pandemic. How much does that relate to what you're going through or what somebody in your family is going through. If you'd like to share some thoughts you can kalyan one. Eight hundred nine nine six two. 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Donald brown is here with us today from the northwest portland area indian health board also joining us today. To a rock rockville. Maryland is j b clinton chinni and cleanly latini ken latini and he is the national league for the alcohol and substance abuse program for the indian health service and he's a member of the navajo nation. Our pleasure to have him here today. Gb welcome to native america calling for having good have here. And so j b Tell us a little bit about what you are witnessing nationally about alcohol use and abuse and during the pandemic tell me more sure. Thank you for providing this platform and as as we are all aware. The american indian alaskan native population has had disproportionately higher rates lock hall related morbidity and mortality. And that's been a trend for quite some time and into the latest. A report from cdc centers for disease control and prevention in two thousand and nineteen unintentional. Injuries was the third leading. Cause of death. For american indian alaskan native and a lot of the desktop are for related unintentional. Injuries are alcohol related and also in between nineteen chronic liver. Disease was a fourth leading cause of death for the american indian health native population and also the third leading cause of guests for american indian and alaskan native men ages. Thirty five through forty four and Also another topic of concern is the american indian alaskan native women or two point three times more likely to be diagnosed with chronic liver disease and four point four times more likely to die from chronic liver disease as compared to non hispanic white one and these are all data though that we have Pulled from the centers for disease control and prevention with those Those statistics that are out have already been there. For the american union population kovac nineteen and the pandemic has brought an additional burden to the american and alaskan native population so with A lot of the tried being a what they call a dry reservation meaning. They don't sell alcohol under reservations. We have received some anecdotal information and reporting of higher sales of alcohol as you had mentioned earlier in a lot of the members of these communities. They have to go off the reservation to purchase alcohol and There has been an increase in need for treatment as well during the covid. Nineteen pandemic So there there are some trends that are that we we are looking at closely and working with our federal partners. Here at the national level with samsa and the a to name a few So that's what we're we're focusing on and understanding that there might be a larger wants to couva Rates have dropped. And we we kinda go back to our some sense of normalcy. Well you know what leads to all of this too is important and unlike to get further into that with j b but it got a caller on the line. We're going to say hi eleanor. Who is in medical. Alaska tuned in today. Thank you for giving us a ring. Eleanor year on air. Hello eleanor okay. Give us a ring back. And gbi what are some of the factors that you understand or the that's been reported or just hearing from people who are You know living with addiction. Alcohol addiction as to what is driving them to abuse alcohol. Tell me more sure. There's there's quite a few studies that are out there but all in a lot of the effects of the pandemic is what is a leading to an increase in alcohol use and also substances well There is An increase in anxiety also social isolation and also unemployment all of these have a second alcohol consumption and the ways in which the alcohol industry and governments have responded to the challenges. Well in so when we're talking about tribal governments water. Some things have had to do have had to get creative. Gb sure yeah. Many many tribes across the region have implemented different mitigation measures Some tribes have implemented lockdowns some tribes have implemented stay at home during the covid nineteen pandemic and they're still applying a lot of those mitigation measures and also The the pandemic has a lot of Community concerns As mentioned earlier about being able to come together as a as a community as a family and then cove in nineteen has really tremendously impact. They're making indian alaska native population And as dr brown had mentioned earlier that the processes of grieving and in responding to death has not always been respected because of the midday measures so all of those infuse mark anxiety and also more frustration and depression. And so when we think about where things are in moving forward. Are we going to see a decrease. Or what are your thoughts that is always. The ultimate goal is to reduce the increase of of health burden diseases etc. And yeah the i just currently is has increased access to telehealth encounters across all service service categories. And he's platforms insurance patient and timely care delivery while reducing patient and staff exposure risk so the irs has rapidly increased its it infrastructure to meet these demands and just back in april of twenty twenty. I just deployed in new telehealth system that allows services to be provided on almost any device with an internet connection so Increase access increases Patients has access to treatment so The services go into the patient's home and during the nineteen Public health emergency many. I just be. How programs have taken advantage of this new platform and transition tell a behavioral health and this has allowed the programs to maintain ongoing care and to help me rising demand for behavioral health services. So most definitely that is the most and and ultimate goal is to reduce health disease and health burden. Thank you for that and gb. Where are some of the places where people can access assistance with the indian health service in terms of You alcohol abuse sure. The one one good resource that we have with the indian health service division of able health is if you go to our website at i exist dot gov forward slash asap That represents alcohol steps abuse program. We have quite a few Resources and information that is available to the general public out there and If you make a request on the contact us page you can submit your information. If you're looking for treatment for example you can send that information through that contact us now. Just be reminded that everything is confidential and anonymous. So you don't have to provide any of your personal identifiable information on that website. You can a forgotten into all of your contact information where you're located So we can rely on usually response to inconvenience From areas within the nation. And we do have a treatment locator with our website And then also our partner and her sister partner subsidies for and mental health services administration. Samsa they also have a treatment locator at their website which is www dot s. a. m. s. a. dot gov forward slash fine dash treatment. All right well thank you for that. Thank you for that resource too if you'd like to talk directly with j. be dialing now one eight hundred nine six two eight. Four eight is a number. Let's go ahead and try eleanor. Who is joining us today. In the d. l. g. listening community. Eleanor thank you for giving us a ring. Go ahead you're on air. Thank you I just want to say that. I'll call it the biggest problem around here. Not just around here but mostly smaller communities because it And he's also used by issues. Take children away. Lots of loss you push but many many were not educated about alcoholism. Many are addicted and not isis is willing to do to it. But there's no they have liquor store in hubs like doing him that needs to be. We should have done years ago but they fun doesn't keep the city for their just this system and that's voted to should have done years ago but the Deception most the yes and this model was on the vote and it was used to let them know and they keep it. A delicate store opened up and that with god and through. Should those things done by by Kids i mean peace unhooking hunt the ones that really hot and stuff that they don't get into this call they love their love hunting and fishing and that would be great. T you know this alternative to Because many many many even if they graduate or not re- very later and actual hands on would help them Get over that. And i don't know what else to say. Well you said a lot illinois and we appreciate it. Thank you for giving us a ring. They're out of alaska. We now go to another caller who is on the line. Got corinne in rosebud. South dakota tuned in on. Koa a thank you for giving us a ring carrying your on air. Yeah hi thank you. hello i do not want to get. Hello yes go and you hear me. I'm grateful for him. I do not wanna get okay. I do not want to get into a debate about these of marijuana. But i would just like to let you know that my reservation. We have in outstanding treatment programs for alcohol and for mass which is A an epidemic. Here and i'm i am. I'm starting a Halfway house there is no halfway house currently and it's really needed and We just legalize marijuana here. So i'm gonna use the proceeds As an economic development tool from the from the marijuana to fund my halfway house and The other point that i wanted to make is I personally do not use marijuana. But i know a lot of people that do and i am in the recovery community and there's a very high number of people that are successful off of meth and alcohol but us Marijuana as a tool. And i don't like i don't want to debate whether or not that's good or bad but i'm gonna take it as a win and yeah started halfway house in funded with Marijuana all right green. Thank you for your call. One eight hundred nine six two eight four is the And also here to on the line with us. Albuquerque new mexico dr paul romo. He is an addiction psychiatrists from the university of new mexico in. Dr romo are pledged to have you here with us today on native america calling welcome. Thank you for negate. What i appreciate. You really appreciated to in romo Just hearing from korean people are getting creative with what they're doing to push back against addictions especially alcohol addiction. And your thoughts on you know really thinking about water ways. We can help our community on. What are things we need to change. How can we double up resources to provide places or just even showing a path to people in our communities Is there anything you'd like to start with on that. Yes to us. The other callers soundboard. I i respect what both of them said tremendously and i think one of the keys that they're doing is they're not giving up that maintaining the whole even though they know that there's a problem out there that's causing a lot of stuffing for family members and communities and there's always a different angle of approach that can be taken for example if that one caller that was trying to get the liquor store. Shutdown doesn't work another angle could be to try to get More sales tax the higher the sales tax on the alcohol. The more finding that programs can have to treat alcohol use disorder. We have something similar in bernallio county where we use the alcohol tax to fund several programs from above the influence to try to get us away from alcohol to finding uber programs. Harm form of harm reduction to get less people to drive while intoxicated and there's many different kinds of groups as well as Dwi planning council so there. There's always an approach in terms of using candidates or other angles of approach alcohol as well as other substances that can cause addiction. Don't just affect somebody physically. They're they're extremely ubiquitous. Meaning that they can affect. Somebody emotionally spiritually economically. Can change how. They're interacting with their family and so Whatever that this suffering that it's causing needs to be the target of approach for treating that individual and then over time as it gets momentum that's what starts to make changes within the community usually start the individual and then the family and then we'll spread from there One thing. I did want to mention though is With alcohol use disorder the one underlying element that it has no matter which tribe is coming from which person is suffering in so that suffering is limited to the person that has the addiction. it spreads to their entire family. And i'm sure the listeners can relate so it's also important for the family as a unit to get treatment and so in example of that would be a patient going to aa and then a family member going to alanon which is a kind of a support system for family members that addicted to alcohol in. So how often do people gloss over looking at the real issue in just one who say you know. Put the bottle down you know and not think about everything that is affecting the person. How often do we do that. And you know what you'll have to hold your response till after the break dr romo We got a pause for a moment but again if you would like to join us one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight is a number you can give us a ring and i guess question goes for you too. How often do we overlook what is causing the alcohol abuse. You can give us a ring. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is a number. Maybe you're somebody who is helping a loved one or just somebody in your circle and what have been some of your approaches. Have you seen more alcohol consumption going on because of the pandemic in. What are you doing to help that individual give us a ring gives your questions to dial in one eight hundred nine six two eight. Four eight is a number we look forward to your calls and we'll keep these phone lines open and again that invitation. Is there for you if you like to call in anonymously you can. You don't even have to say where you're at one eight hundred nine nine six two eight. Four eight is the number to join us support by the suit. Trading post who special selection of dried herbs or chosen for superior quality than many sage sweetgrass braids and red willow bark and cedar are wild crafted all available at suit trading dot com osceola support by the applied indigenous studies department at northern arizona university giving native american students knowledge and tools to become change agents in their communities where indigenous knowledge is applied in a u dot. Edu slash native. Thank you for tuning in to native america calling. I'm tara gatewood and we are talking about alcohol. Use and abuse during the covid nineteen pandemic. And how do you keep your sobriety going during these difficult times. There's still time to join our conversation. Dial in one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight. That's also one eight hundred nine nine native here with us today at albuquerque. New mexico is dr paul romo. He is indictions psychiatrists from the university of new mexico. And dr romo thinking about why. A person turns to alcohol How often do we gloss over the reasons why they're turning to it in. What kind of damages that cost. Tell me more. go ahead. Dr romo no problem we we gloss over it quite often and to me. The one of the biggest doctors is Misunderstanding of of addiction and in the beginning A lotta times. It's a choice in so somebody chooses to drink or not drink. And at a certain point there will be brain changes where they lose control of the part of their brain that controls the choice to drink and so they the drinking then becomes accelerated and it takes over and can ruin their lives their families life than as an example if if your listeners have a piece of paper take out your piece of paper because i want you to do this with me and so you may say to yourself well. I've drank alcohol before I didn't get addicted. And what's what that's like is like waving the piece of paper bending it returns back to normal shape and function but at a certain point and nobody knows what this point is. If you take that piece of paper and you crease it you and you move it now you notice. It moves completely differently. That's basically happens with all substances vote of abuse including alcoholic changes the structure and the function of the brain doesn't function normally. So this is partly why. It's so frustrating. Because family members including the person drinking themselves they. They're sincere and genuine. When they say i don't wanna drink anymore and families telling them quit drinking or or family's gonna fall apart the all believe to their core but that addiction just takes over and they drink despite the consequences and that that in essence is the definition of addiction that same glossing over though it also happens within the medical community among my peers within the medical field. There's also a tremendous stigma about addiction and treating addiction that it's a moral weakness things like this. When when in essence it is a medical condition that we have medicines for. And there's several fda medicines that we use. And i'd i'd be willing to talk about them if you'd like true go for it. So the cravings are the one symptom out of eleven that meet criteria for somebody having alcohol addiction and the one craving that can persist throughout their entire life. You can quit. Drinking is the cravings and so the there's several medicines that can be helpful for helping with alcohol cravings on what they found is that why certain groups that people are more at risk for addiction than others is we have a natural opium in our brain called endorphins and basically when people that are at higher risk for getting addicted drink their brain releases a really high number of endorphins. And so what's the drink. I drink to them is extremely euphoric. And so they do it again and they don't have that same on off. Switch that other people do when it comes to so. There's a medicine called now. Tricks on opiate blocker and what happens is when they take this medicine they take drink. The endorphins get released. But they're blocked for the alcohol doesn't feel as pleasurable in is addicted so it gives them a little more control to avoid heavy drinking. Is it another one called the camper. Save this one. has a different mechanism of action. But can still work well to help reduce drinking and cravings and then there's other ones that discourage people from drinking by making them get sick it's called the diaphragm. Those are the three. Fda approved ones and there's several Off label medicines that we can use to such as topamax gathered panton back within. There's a couple of others but There's medicines out there that people can take if they're getting into a tough spot and they need an extra advantage to get him to do it on the reason. I'm mentioning that. There's stigma is that these are medicines to treat a disease and so just like nobody would create Criticize somebody for taking a blood pressure medicine for hypertension or insulin for diabetes. It should go the exact same in my book if somebody has alcohol use disorder use a medicine to improve their quality of life in their family and their relationship with our tribe and community. Doctrine will thank you for sharing that. If you've got any questions again you can ask. Dr romo one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight and dr romo some of these medications that you mention how are they. Administered is is something that You're prescribed in. It's up to you to you to keep your keep your medications going or are these things that are only administered in a treatment program. Tell me more. These medicines are administered by prescription. Most of them are used On outpatient basis but they can be started on inpatient basis There they all three of the main. Fda approved medicines. Come in fill for form and now checks on also comes in an injectable form that last once a month last monthly this one can get people in advantage if their addiction is so strong that they know the medicine works but that that little voice of alcohol keeps talking about of taking it and so there's several several angles of approach when it comes to outpatient an inpatient There's a set of medicines that can be used for alcohol. Withdraw alcohol is one of the few drugs that can be lethal And cause a withdrawal seizure or something called delirium trenton. If if somebody's going through a situation like that. We always recommend to try to get them inpatient to do a medical detox because the alcohol withdraw is one problem once they get through that. Then they're out the start place where they can start treatment for alcohol. Use disorder The actual addiction to alcohol. Thank you for that in what i got a caller. We're gonna go to who is in. South dakota caller. Thank you for giving us a ring. Go ahead your thoughts your ear alot right. Let's see can get back. Hi you're on ear. Thanks for giving us a ring. Go ahead oh yes. I'm calling from south dakota and and I had a many experiences with with a family member members who have had alcohol disease and and many times the community and family members are not aware of of this Disease and and they seem to just give up on it. So the there's there's a huge lack of support from family community and It seems like It it's just persistent All the time. Because this is the first time i've ever heard of from dr wilmer from unm to share about what can be done and Positive medicines. That can treat the the end. More fins in the brain and and to dissipate the cravings for for the alcohol and I would. I would like to learn more about each medicines and Find ways that. I can let can help my family and I appreciate you calling in a no. The journey is not an easy one for Helping your loved one who is struggling with addiction and You know really appreciate you calling in in doctoral of If there are direct resources that people can access As you heard from our college wants to hear more Is there any place you can send folks to romo. It's gonna vary where you are within the country. If you don't have access to the internet go to your community center Go anywhere where there's An opportunity to talk to somebody. That's in the us healthcare fields and eventually will even if it's just finding a threat. It'll give you the way to trace to trace pathway to get to the deeper levels of care You always wanna start with self care whether it's you or a family member that struggling with addiction the caller that just spoke me chills. Because i know exactly what she said was true. And i know that she's seen a lot of suffering and feels frustrated because we don't always know what to do the one thing that i could advise everybody though independent if you have access or not would be to just know that. There's other people out there that are going to not shy away from the problem. That's out there and we're here to help carry the burden and the suffering with you indeed. Thank you for that again. Thank you for your call. Their out of south dakota and dr romo Project echo project No you're got connections to that. Tell me a little bit more in some of the training. That's going on you. So i a couple of the other just had refer to echo what it is. It's a it's a telehealth system where this education is is shared with other providers Primary care special. Primary care docs and providers that are in your local areas and with it allows his Expert expert advice and guidance on how to treat Cases that we're talking about now where we're seeing a lot of problems coming up from addiction how to use these medicine. But they're usually What they usually intel echo session is it. They doctors or a lecturer about that topic. Whether it's treating cirrhosis or hepatitis or addiction followed by case presentations where Different community and local providers can discuss the case with experts. And get recommendations. Thank you for that and you know something else that is a concern is drinking well intoxicated. There was an article in albuquerque. Journal focused on numbers With stated instances of dwi went down it went down during the pandemic. dwi accidents doubled. Is there anything you can share about. You just heard or just thinking about driving while under the influence does the. Dwi's of are always gonna be a problem and so in the form of harm. Reductions is important to educate the public as well as have systems in place to try to reduce got within albuquerque. We have several programs. Like i mentioned earlier in the podcast. A lot of these are funded from tax sales from alcohol and so Getting funding for these programs is important. like i said some of these programs That come from the cells talking. Include purchasing uber rides for people. And so. there's always something that we could do. Always a a angle approached out we can do. Sometimes it includes taking a family members keys especially if they're blacked out and they're not in their right mind but yeah the the. Dwi's remains a problem nationally. I'm happy to hear that. The numbers have gone down. But we need to remain vigilant especially as the pandemic improves and places. Start to open up and people will be driving around more in so dr romo. We know there are all kinds of folks who are listening today when people who are fighting with alcohol addiction. Is there anything you would like to share directly to that person right now. Yes there is and that if nobody's told it to you recently that your love and that's your important and that you are not your addiction or your problem at all and there's even if it feels like there's nobody out there that can relate a guarantee there is you just have to keep reaching out and you will connect and you will find that support in speaking of support a lot of times. It's pure support Any thoughts about you know where that can be a resource to help people who are struggling with this kind of addiction. Dr romo yes. Peer support is major. The it's it's not very common for somebody to get treatment directly from an addiction psychiatrist. I think it's under two percent the majority of people that are getting help our peer to peer support and those come in the form of of self help groups. Examples of those are smart recovery programs. A which is one of the largest Groups these these groups are anonymous and they walk you through a series of twelve steps that that Not only help you treat the problem that the alcohol caused but any problem. That may have been a part of the route that led to that person developing an addiction to alcohol. Thank you for that and also here to out of portland. Oregon is donna brown Behavioral health director for the northwest portland area indian. Health board in. Donna also wanted to hear your thoughts and experience with peer support in in fighting an alcohol addiction. Any thoughts. yeah. We we have found that Peer recovery specialists are Intrical into in our communities to be able to help our communities to access Recovery and access Care and so especially during the pandemic of of peer recovery specialist And and doing a lot of the work in our communities and so But with that. I just wanna say to the northwest portland area indian health board. We have appeared recovery echo which is more of a space for peer recovery specialists to come and talk and share and support each other and get a feedback regarding some of their challenging though challenging work that they do but our recovery specialists peer recovery specialists are vital in our communities to be able to access and support our communities in accessing the country They they are doing some of the most important and challenging work Out there right now. And i'm just so grateful for them every day. Indeed well we got to wrap things up here. But i appreciate everybody that we heard from today. Thank you for joining us on the line today. Dr paul romo Donna brown as well as j b can latini and tomorrow we hope you will join us again for our monthly music maker feature this time. We have muskogee creek poet and musician joy harjo with her new album. I pray for my enemy is. 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