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Steelers Preview: Does Benny Snell Jr. equate to the return of smash mouth Steelers football?

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Steelers Preview: Does Benny Snell Jr. equate to the return of smash mouth Steelers football?

"Pittsburgh Steeler fans. Let's going on this, Jeff Harbin editor of behind the curtain dot com with another episode of the Steelers preview. We have a lot to talk about tonight information about our jersey giveaway information about as information about Benny Snell junior. We're going to take your questions, that's a lot of stuff to get through. And then obviously, we have the either or at the end of the show, the first introduced my co hosts for the evening as always the dynamic duo. Brian, Anthony Davis is here. Brian, how's it going? Whole lot doing very well my friends. Very good. Dave. How are you? I'm I'm so excited. Jeff I can't I can't be myself anymore. I have to do it. Spoiler. The Steelers won Super Bowl. Nine sixteen to six over the Minnesota Vikings. Franko Harris was the MVP. I don't want to be give any other spoilers. I'm gonna stop it Super Bowl mine. I tried to get the forty five years, but I couldn't quite do it. All right. So let's give right to things in that is we want to talk about this giveaway and I pumped this up on my show, which actually was Tuesday Night Live on YouTube, but rand today Wednesday today's Thursday. I'm all messed up because this schedules. I did my show Tuesday published today on Thursday. That's correct. But I talked about the giveaway. We're giving away a free juju. Smith Schuster jersey, we've been talking about this last two weeks tonight is the night, the Dave is going to give you all the information you to know including the hashtag, so pay attention, get out your penny. Pencils? Write it down in that way. You can enter to win this free. Jersey Dave, go ahead. Takeaway, tell them about the giveaway. All right. Just to give a quick recap of what we talked about last week. It is a free Nike replica juju. Smith Schuster jersey. It is the nice kind. It is. It's, it's not the, like Jeff mentioned in his show. It's not the three hundred our nothing. No, no, it's not the authentic. Fantastic. But it's, it's what you would most people would would order, when you when you wanna spend one hundred dollars to through through the Steelers to get a to, to get a jersey. So that's what's going to be the sizes, your choice from small to three XL. I will will will get all the contact information. Once the contest is done, but the contest was or is you'll be posting on Twitter, a short video of a possible juju. Smith Schuster touchdown celebration that he could use for this upcoming season. Be creative on it would be nice if you gave it a name and gave it an intro. But when you post it, you need to you need to include the behind the curtain Twitter Jeff on a remind us, what that is BT steel, curtain, that's at BT steel curtain. That's important ahead. So we got you. Gotta ask me, bro. So you got to do that, then you also have to include the hashtag people couldn't post their videos until we got the hashtag, we are officially announcing the hashtag now. And that hashtag is juju. Jersey contests. Jeff, I'm sure is going to put it on the live chat. We're going to put everybody can if you're alive on YouTube juju, jersey contests, there's your hashtag, if you had your video ready to go. Go ahead and get it out there, the sooner it's out there. The faster you can start gaining likes remember, if juju likes it. That's an extra million likes of years is the only one you can get you to like, you've got yourself, juju Smith Schuster jersey. Yeah. And it was funny on vine is still Kurt. And we did an article just kind of letting all our readers know that we're doing this giveaway because not everyone listens to our podcast. We understand that in terms of our traffic numbers for. The site compared to our podcast, not yet anyway. And a lot of people were all, you know, old men yelling clouds of a social media, blah, blah. Look. Okay. Whatever if you don't wanna do, don't you. But someone is going to get a free jersey. That's it. I mean you're gonna get a free jersey like there's no strings attached here. You just follow us on Twitter. You get your friends together. I don't know make makeup something fun. You're allowed to put I believe at two and a half. Minute video on Twitter. Echo. Something creative get a bunch of likes if you are. We checking the behind the curtains, Twitter notifications, it, make sure you tag because I will reach we'd amount there, you'll get some likes and we'll see who wins this thing because when Dave Logan announced next Thursday is Evan will announce the winner. Yeah, we're gonna I'm going to let you talk a little bit about it. I, I had as a deadline of next Wednesday night at ten pm I is originally, what I said to put out their we're all cut it off. So that gives us time to make sure we've done everything properly, and do it. And then we can announce it the next day, does that does that work for you, Jeff. That's not a problem. So there you have it, folks. In case you were late joining us, just. Listen to the beginning of the show, and I said this on my show the Steelers burning question this week, and that was we will talk about it right off the bat so everyone can hear it. You don't miss it at the end of the show. So there you have it a free juju Smith Schuster jersey. And like I said, I already have a giveaway coming up. I actually want to involve writing in this one that'll be coming up. We'll talk about after we give out the jersey, so let's get right into things. The Steelers are in the just completed the first week of organized team activities phase three which means that this is really what people call the OT as organized team activities have three phases. Phase one is to strengthen conditionings face to they can work with some coaches here there but really is still just conditioning. And then face threes, where you actually have offense versus defense and things like that. So this is what Mike Tomlin so eloquently called football in shorts and how it means. Absolutely nothing. So when I think of OT as I don't always agree with the fact that there's nothing to draw from this, I think there is. You can see who the coaches trust. You could see who's maybe starting with the, you know, for instance, Devon Busch St. was splitting time with Mark baron with the ones that tells me something you hear things that the players are seeing out on the field. It I'm not saying it's the utmost importance in that you should take it as gospel. But I do think it is important with that said, Brian OT, as what are your thoughts? Is there anything that has surprised you or anything like that? Just what comes your mind meeting in the first week of OT is. Well, poor Jeff is a huge thing getting these guys together, and I just I don't care if they're in shorts, I don't care if they're an tights. I don't care if they're dressed like gladiators is just good to be out there working together and getting on the same page. You're not you're gonna see a little less of the last couple of years with everybody skipping, because everybody's a diva and we had that, that's kind of the thing that we had with Antonio Brown leave you owned bell was never there. And then you'll bent the time off to now. He's being there to be with his team, and it seems like you're going to see more guys there. So that's a good thing. You know, they're, they're, they're getting a jump start on everything, and it kinda helps I mean, years ago, Chuck knoll had the team, the team lost draft picks because they were in pads earlier than everybody else. They lost draft pick because of it. And they said they were cheating, but for me, that's that's something that, you know, that's invaluable they were able to go out and work together. Do what they need to do. And get like I said, get on that. Same page, the news out of minicamp. There was so much stuff with Ben Rothlisberger breaking his silence with juju making some comments about how he is going to be good with reporters. The big social media problem now, which I'm going to say problem because it's not a big deal if you're making a big deal out of Terrell Edmonds liking a post that he didn't read, just because he was liking something or the fact that, that, but Duprey is sticking up sticking up for a juju Smith Schuster, by by calling a Steelers reporter fat, boy, Mark Kabali fat boy. If you're worried about that, you know, come on. That's once again, I'm going to the greatest, quote ever on the show. Just happened five minutes ago and it's Jeff hartman's man old man yelling at clouds. And that is really. That's really how I feel about that. Look. The guys are together. You know what that tells me they're United? They are United. And so I mean, give give Edmonds a pass on that. I I there was he came out right away. It said. Well will I'm sorry. I didn't really read it. No problem with that. Let the guy that let the guy play but debris everybody's saying. All right. This is the wrong time because he really needs to show up. I mean I I hear I read stuff that he's the wrong player. It'll be speaking out. We not know he's sticking up for his teammates. Shut up, everybody shut up. All right. Let these guys United were mad because they're sniping were mad that there's dissension limb be a team. What do you people want? All right. Read over man. Yelling at clouds, you kids, get off my lawn. You just kind of turned into Rush Limbaugh there. For a second. Anyways. All right. Rush. All right. Dave, what were your thoughts takeaways from TA's week? Every little thing is a story. No. What was it, sudden Smith? Take some snaps at fullback and it's a big story. They wanted to say to Bush started off with the ones was a big story, but then they corrected said with it, it was really it was really baron and Williams that had the first naps but they were doing pure three man rotation. Something that was just came out tonight was David decastro has not been there all week because his wife just had their second child. And then as we had an article today that someone already been mentioned in, in the live chat, how dare him. Yes. How they're him that Jordan Dangerfield missed today because he went because he finished his college degree, even though he came out in two thousand thirteen he finally finished it up. So he was back at talent for that. So I liked it. There's some good stories but any little thing, they're just trying to get we went so much Steeler news. We want to know exactly what's going on. What's happening with all these guys. We're so ready for it. We what the season to be here already. So any little news that we get we just want to suck it up as much as we can. But we just gotta realize it's just football and shorts. Thing for me is you bring up how they are. There are a lot of different angles. You can take my as the editor of the site, I try personally to just state what happened. I, I try to. I don't want to speculate anything like okay, Devon books fulltime with Mark, Barron. I'm not gonna speculate that he is ahead of schedule or I'm not gonna speculate that he is on pace to start week one because you just don't know and a lot of these reporters because they're all writing the same stories are talking to the same guys. They all want to get the inside edge. They wanna have that unique creative angle on an article, and honestly, although bud depre- needs realize social media is one hundred percent public. I had no problem with what he said. Because if you read what Cavalli tweeted, it really seemed like he was trying to push narrative, and it was a narrative, I wasn't really comfortable with, because it just seemed like he was trying to drum up more drama in bud depre-, could he have said that without calling him a fat boy? Yes. Did I find that hysterical? Yes. But at the same time, I'm reading Kabali rights, and I'm like this isn't even close to a juju is saying, I mean you guys heard the interview right at anyone not hear the interview. I heard pretty much everything that juju said, but I did not see the whole thing with Kabali but oh. Oh you didn't. Okay. So what spin Tamale was trying to put on it. He basically that's when Judy made the comment of I b o k having three catches for twenty yards. And we win compared to two touchdowns and ten receptions and Cavalli took that as he's that's Javanese. He and he didn't say that at all aided reference. Antonio Brown your he was just really really speculative. When I come to the quotes of bud depre- then responds to volley and says there you go again, trying to bring up stuff and basically saying it's last year's last year, then he calls him fat boy. That's a really big inference to go that he was definitely. I mean you can take it that way. But I mean, come on, now, you're just assuming, yes, AB can't get over the Steelers. Everything out of his mouth, and everything that his mind is focused on the Steelers. But that doesn't mean that all the guys on the Steelers can't be that every little thing that they're doing is about him. It's not. We can't be that way about it. Well, yeah. Okay. So that, that story assigned go ahead. Brian, go ahead. Brian. Yeah. You know, it's just like like you said earlier, we just Dave said this earlier, we have to have a story for everything. Hey, breaking news. What are the undrafted rookie rookies went to sheets and got an MTO today? Let's write an article about it. I mean that's basically what's what's happening right now. And we're, we're guilty of it, too. I mean but not to that extent we just always have to beat some everybody has to beat somebody to the deadline, and we've got to create controversy in when, when the media starts creating the controversy in affects the team. So basically, you're covering the team, but you're also trying to. Destroyed the team in interest in that something that I've always struggled with. Yeah. Well, outside of the media scrutiny and outside of budget pres idiotic response in Terrell Edmonds liking Antonio Brown's tweet, which by the way, anyone's Twitter. There's a lot of times you go through your feet and just use like everything. I mean, it's an Instagram, Facebook, there's people that just like everything I have an aunt at likes everything. I mean, everything you could put up a picture of grass, and she would like it or paint, drying video of paint drying. And she would like it. So there are people like that. I, I don't I don't care. It's real Edmonds liked it. Sweet. My question is, who the heck is looking at that stuff? I that means it someone literally opened up the tweet clicked on legs scroll through every single person that liked it and found. That's relevant insight, did I have better things to do with my time, personally. But that's I digress. I'm not I'm not because that's not necessarily true because I saw it in the first place because I don't follow a B anymore, but I followed throw Edmonds. So it came up on my feed. And that was. That's how this whole got star. Eight you're right now. You're right because Twitter change their algorithm. And on your main feeds, the I don't check my main feed. I only checked my list. I have Steeler writers official Steelers lists. I only read those in, they'll check our notifications, but I don't check our feed. That's true. You're right, good point, David. But for me, I will say this that what popped out to me was just kind of what piggyback on what Bryan said. And that is it really seems like this team is committed. I Ben Rothlisberger today. It was he was not going to practice. He doesn't practice three days during the season. He was gonna practice three days, not as but he was still there, and he was still working with the receivers in and James Washington spoke today and said, how, you know, he sees that a sixteen year veteran fifteen year veteran escapes me, however, many years, he's, he's going into a sixteen season. It's impressive to him when he sees him there, a lot of guys would just say, I'm not going to practice. I'm either going to be getting treatment. Or I'm going to be working out, or I'm just gonna go and enjoy my family for a long weekend, but they're all they're, they're all there, David decastro. He's not. I get it is not like you had the situation that we've had in the past this team, it might just be lip service, but I feel like they are really committed in. I like that. I don't I'm not putting any stock and in the live chat people are saying you know, I heard that zone. So Raymond the ones they're gonna throw people in different positions. I mean, if already burns gets a snap with the ones are we going to start writing articles at Artie burns? The reclamation project is going to happen. Someone will I could tell you name of probably three or four websites right now. That would I'm not saying I would. But so. OT rotea as it's good some good talking points. But ultimately football shorts folks as Mike Tomlin calls at football in shorts. So we'll be interesting. We'll follow this stuff as we go in the next three weeks. Is that sell long OT as are they three sessions next week, four sessions the following week? One of those is typically a trip. To Dave and Buster's and not a workout said don't expect for on that week. But let's, let's go onto our stack. Eeks. Dave go head stack. Eek. Sorry, I double click my button, almost started talking with my Mutola game. It's. It's, it's interesting that you brought up that sometimes we have a narrative, and we're just feeding stories before, leading into this, because I got a cues to that, by some people with an article that I put out yesterday, which was a really important part, because in case you guys haven't noticed I've really tried to dive into the whole compensatory draft pick stuff this year with the Steelers lined up for a third round pick next year. And there was something that came across that I realized that I think it's something needs to change that if a player gets cut there, no longer are in the formula. So it was a scenario that I wrote that a lot of us on the site of if something happens the way it sits right now is, if this is some numbers, if the Philadelphia Eagles one a gain another fourth round pick they already have a third. They had the first overall pick from from losing foles, and they already have a fourth, if they wanted to need to gain another fourth round pick. They have to cut by week ten. Either Eljay fort or Anderson Deo, I'm pretty sure it's Andrew. So it was the whole idea of if fort would get cut by the eagles. That would mean the Steelers would lose their third round compact for bell, their only option would be to cut one of the guys that they have, and the most logical one would be Dante Moncrieff. So here's the question I just set it all up for you guys. If you had to choose between getting the third round comp pick or keeping Dante Moncrieff. What do you do? I'm gonna keep Moncrieff because the draft picks I said this before. I mean unless Moncrieff looks absolutely awful. And he can't catch a cold. He has Lima sweet syndrome, or semi code syndrome. Then I'm keeping Moncrieff because he's a proven talent in the league. Whereas draft picks even in the third round, there's no guarantees. That's what I'm gonna, I'm gonna take Moncrieff. What about you, Brian? That's absolutely, you know with that whole scenario. No, not no fence to you, Dave. But just the worrying about draft picks right now when you are trying to build a team with personnel. And even if the guys, I mean we're cutting guys because of the future now because of a possible extra draft pick. And I realized that, that's the Steelers only third round draft pick possibly next year. But no, you've gotta play for today and worry about that later. I mean, that would be just insane to let go a guy like Moncrieff you know, give him time to develop. And he's the kind of guy that's got in their early to go ahead and work with Ben they were supposed to hook up during the off season. But if that happened, but there was talk about that. And so I you know he has an opportunity to play with a great quarterback. He did not get. To do that all the time in Indianapolis, because Andrew luck wasn't around all the time, he played better when he was with lock what he's going to do with Ralph for can be good. He can potentially be a great free agent signing. We went ahead and we have something that's going to be published very soon a fantasy football report. And he was one of my guys to look at that. No one else was talking about, I think Moncrieff is a guy that we re that I really think could be a sleeper for this team. And I'm looking at drafting them in the fantasy football season because I just think that he's going to come up and pay off. So why why even think about that right now? David, you write that article that said. That was my point. Exactly. The only reason I put that out there was because the issue came up. I was trying to look into does cutting a player affect compensatory value or the formula. And I thought I don't think it does doesn't make sense that it does. But even though it does make sense. It does so that could change everything. And I just wanted to put the information out there so that way, people weren't screaming. We didn't get a pig. We why didn't why wasn't this scenario brought up first of all, I don't think that eagles are gonna cut for it. I don't I think when he had a three year deal, we'd carry dead money through it would if they're going to cut someone to gain that pick. It's going to be Sunday. Ho the only thing was is if what happens if fort gets dinged up and isn't available. You know his his only you know the best the best abilities your availability. So it's just something that is still a possibility out there. But no, there's no way that they should get rid of Moncrieff. Just to get the third round pick, but people have been hung up on this third round pick for over two years, actually, since they traded away. Their third round pig in twenty twenty four to with the Denver Broncos. They're on getting that Compaq to compensate for that loss back. Yeah. And every and I mean, everyone was saying, with don't transition bell. We want the third round pick and I'm like, there's no guarantee we're going to get it. Because if we signed more people than what we lost it didn't matter if we only signed seventh-round guys in lost third-round guys, you don't get the pick. It's gotta be more people lost than people gained and that's what it comes down to. So I say, let's not let's not worry about that pick at all. I haven't either or for you guys. Brian those confused. Do you have a question, Brian? I was just going to say, I'm just going say, I know I'm not confused. I'm, I'm incensed why should that even be a situation that after he's gone that the eagles cut them that the Steelers lose their picker, any team loses their pick for something happens after they're gone that's complete Louis what the hell I tell you what this league is broken. I'm completely and I've had it agree. And that's what I'm saying. I think this should this rule needs to be changed. I really do because I mean if there's a deadline of after the draft that the second Tuesday has the draft that if you sign someone at no longer affects you that, that they won't hurt you in a compensatory formula, then cutting someone after that Saint time should not matter that you should not gain by saying, I'm gonna cut someone's one. Get the extra pick one another or another team lose out because somebody else decided to cut someone. I completely agree. We're think that's, that's a part of a broken system. One of L J fort gets syphilis and loses his ability. In his early. Play, so that at least dealer as the Steelers I really love L J for. Now. I mean I like for what if something happens. I mean what if something happens and they, they cut him because of it. I mean this is this. The eagles are going to save a pack. Yeah. All right. Brian. L. Let the clouds so I- tonight for for, for stat geek, I wanted to bring up that question, because it dealt with the numbers involved with everything. But the other thing I wanted to do is we, we, we've been like, in the over under, I told Jeff, I'm going to cut it back to one, because I want to actually give you guys the numbers involved with why we did it Jeff was talking with his show on Lance with slants on Sunday about when we talked about the number of sax last year. And that's why I brought up to them the Steelers of never had three years in a row with fifty six that's why it was good to set the number at fifty. I didn't realize that at the time where I said it at fifty but now I realize that's a good reason to do it. So I didn't an over under number. But I wanna tell you guys where it came from. And this was actually inspired by Lance Williams. Boy, that's been this is the number for two thousand nineteen of bit of Ben Rothlisberger 's touchdown to interception ratio. He's big on the touch. Genders. Session ratio. Yes, I set the number at three point zero now before you guys answer. I'm going to give you the other numbers so you can make an informed decision. Ben has gone over three on his touchdown to interception ratio three times in his career. Okay. His highest was in two thousand fourteen where he was three point five six. He had thirty two touchdowns to nine interceptions in two thousand fourteen he was three point two five. It was twenty six to eight and in two thousand ten a year that they reached the Super Bowl. He was three point four oh, now I'm not going to tell you jacker, what ratio was there, because I was going to ask as actually going to Brian this little bit of trivia, Ben Rothlisberger has reached the Super Bowl three times in every regular season that he's reached the Super Bowl. He's thrown the same number of touchdowns. Do you know what that number is? Or just to guess it. Twenty one. You want to give it a shot. Jeff. Twitter. You know the answer. I don't check my. Twenty nine. How 'bout his career low of seventeen that he's done four times, his rookie year, and the three years that he's gone to the Super Bowl? He's only thrown seventeen touchdowns in those years. That's insane. I blew my mind. What's that Brian hurt and suspended though to in? I mean you're a rookie that excuses it hurt the next year for a few games and suspended in two thousand ten so. Eight. Yeah. In two thousand eight he threw seven, he played all sixteen games went to the Super Bowl on the Super Bowl seventeen touchdowns. Fifteen interceptions is ratio is only one point one three and two thousand eight but his ratio was three in the playoffs when they won the Super Bowl in two thousand five is ratio was three point three three in the playoffs. So his his lowest touchdown interception ratio was two thousand six. It was under one it was point seven eight two. When he had eighteen touchdowns in twenty three interceptions but real quick before you guys. Judge it here here's his last five seasons. Going into virtual order, two thousand eighteen was two point one three two thousand seventeen was two point oh, two thousand sixteen was two point two three two thousand fifteen was one point three one and two thousand fourteen was his highest ever of three point five, six. So for two thousand nineteen I've buried you with. The numbers over under of the touchdown to interception ratio of three point zero. I'm going to say under just for where it's at Dave, but I have another, I have an over under let's say over under ten how many of our fans and us included could spell ratio. Ratio for this and easy word difficult. You're talking to. All right. I'm gonna take the over. I'm gonna take the over because I think that every year and I don't know. It's every exactly every single you're typically when he has a poor season in terms of interceptions. He recovers a little bit. Lance had numbers for his show last week, and he really he reiterated them on Sunday. He's always around that ten to twelve Mark, but I do think he's going to go down from sixteen and I think that his touchdowns could be about where he was maybe even a little bit better, believe it or not. And I know a lot of people are gonna say you're crazy fifteen touchdowns, just left. But I think this is going to be a team that's still going to school. A lot of points. I'm gonna take the over. What about you? Dave. What do you think? I'm I think it's going to be right around that number. I'm gonna take it probably as barely under. I don't. I'm hoping he doesn't have to just costly. I think improved defense is going to be the key to this of not having the throw as many touchdowns. But every time Ben has gone over three in the regular season. It's been a year and where he had single digit interceptions. So I don't know that he can get down to single digit interceptions, especially if he's playing fifteen or sixteen games. So I think he can get close to three. But since I have to choose, I'm going to go under. I have a quick over under for you guys that I put in our Friday, six pack at two weeks ago and under your might steal mind for next week. But no that was the one you talked about the other night. And that's next week's Chris Boswell. Oh, I Chris Boswell over under on missed field goals in two thousand nine hundred assuming he wins the job, I'll set the number at three. Brian. Over and he will get the job because they don't they don't okay? Over over attract over. Does he keep his job, if he misses more than three? Oh, no, no. They will keep them the whole season because they will their face savers they, they will keep them just because they signed them to a long term deal, Dave, and that, that's another thing that takes Brian off. I think they're going to buck. Angry Brian tonight. This is good. I'm gonna I'm gonna buck the Steelers book that trend, I'm going to say he misses less than three field goals this season because he will not be kicking for the Steelers. I've, I love Boswell. I'm pulling for the guy from UCF. Come on, man. I'm going for the rocket. Scientists. I need to as a member lying thing there. I need one. More for nothing. I, I think that it has to be under else. He does lose his job. I could see him winning the job because of the contract. Like Brian said, if he gets off to a rocky start. They're not going to have the patience had last year. There's always a Matt mccranie type sitting around watching football they can come in and kick field goal. So those at this quick to just want to get your guys thoughts on that. Hey, I'm Spencer Hong. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan nanny. I'm Jason Kirk, and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically, what I mean, is this all every Tuesday, we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling, too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college football every now and then, like mascot fights announcers, fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football, exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts. Or in your favorite podcast app? So let's go. Now let's switch gears and now we're turning from this tacky to or preview player of the week. We're in the fourth round, we're talking. Benny Snell junior, snail. Yep. Any smell football? Those awesome little, you know saying that he has for himself. I think he has Snell yet tattooed on his body somewhere, which is interesting. Stale. What the Snell? Yeah. What is that snow? So what the smell? Ooh, that's Snell. Leonard Skinner reference maybe. Okay. You know what it was way. His Twitter handle is Mr. snow. You later. Mr snail. Yet later a love it. Okay. So. By that. What I titled this episode was Benny Snell junior if you haven't looked at his highlights or seen anything about him, he is a hard nose downhill runner. He's not a shifty guy. He is more of a three yards in a cloud of dust, and he will break some runs if he watched the Penn State game versus Kentucky, which he played for Kentucky. He had a great game there and had some breakway runs against the Nittany lions my question is, though. And this is what I put in the headline is does Benny so junior equate to the return of smash mouth football in Pittsburgh. I'm not suggesting that he's gonna start James Connors the feature back period. But as Benny snow junior's presence in the possibility of them using him in a fashion for say short yardage goal line or to spell Connor does this mean that the Sears may be more committed to the run and really running it down the opponents. We'll go with Dave. I what do you think? I'm gonna somewhat answer your question because I'm going to say, yes, he brings that back. But the thing that I want to focus on is how much are Steeler fans going to be incensed. If they don't give him the chance to do it. Meaning if they don't if you don't see him out there in those in those, those grinded out situations that they're going to be wears. Now we wants now come on what's the deal, we're going to hear it? If they don't I'm really hoping they do. I'm really hoping they, they, they, they share the load a little bit even though Connors feature back. I think he's got the chance to really just bring it back and Pittsburgh, even if they only give him six carries a game or less. They're gonna love him. They're going to embrace him so much. I mean they already love James Connor, so it's kind of tough there, but I mean they he's he's a Pittsburgh Steeler. He has a potential to really do that. And he can do it for a long time. I guess. When I look at, and I'm going to ask Brian, what he thinks about this in a second. I guess when I think about how they're going to utilize him. I picture a scenario where James CONNER has been on the field for a long time. He's he's winded. And they might even if he was having some success. He comes on the field. Or maybe that four minute offense, which Benny snow himself talked about that during rookie minicamp saying just feed me the rock just gimme the football. And I haven't seen the Steelers do this type have this type of back have this type of power football since room that is was the running back where you literally can just handed off in just impose your will lady on bell had a few games, but it wasn't like the bus the bus could just grind out, first downs. Any would just punish the defense in the defense would be so deflated because you knew what was coming and you just couldn't stop it. So Brian, what are your thoughts about this acquitting the smash mouth football in an I also want to ask you how you think they're gonna utilize Snell this upcoming season? Well before I do that fellas. Let me throw something at you through an under over under at you. Twelve games. James Connor, how many games does he actually start this year because of health? Let's put it twelve days over. I'll take iheart over. I think he stays. You're thinking he's because of health. Okay. I think I think, because of Snell to that I think, because of snow and they're not going to have to run the wheels off him that I think that he's going to be healthy this year. So I'm going to take over. Dave. I'm gonna take the over as well because I'm hoping they're going to do it the right way. And that is. Connors connors. Good for thirteen to fourteen games kind of like last year. Let's take those carries and spread them out. All sixteen games because you got other people to end the ball to, I would love nothing. More to see James Connor have a sixteen on pro football reference next to him with a starter each game as a starter that he's there to do, it, actually prefer fifteen from not have to play the last week of the season because that game won't matter because the Steelers will have everything locked up by then. But let's. He's only good for probably what Brian says for right around twelve or thirteen games. But I think if they cut the carries down a little bit because they have the people to do it that, then who actually play it more than twelve. You know what I I love James Connor? I wanna see him play all sixteen just like Dave, I have not seen him do that yet because of various various things that he has got had going on his career. The guy has had to overcome so much so, but I, I really have not seen that much of a full season out of him. I'm sure there, there may have been one in college. We haven't seen it in two years in Pittsburgh. So that's where my and I'm not a pessimist, but that's where my pessimism wise here, but it's good to have another guy like this. And we're not forgetting about Jalen Samuels as well now to piggyback on something that, Dave said a little bit earlier with the fans Yellen form. Well that's definitely going to happen. I'm going to tell you why. Because in the preseason the guy's probably gonna have about a lot of situations short yardage situations. They're not going to need to put James Connor in there. You're. To see a lot of Benny snow football in August. There's gonna be tons of it. This guy is going to probably be the star of the preseason in Pittsburgh. And with that being said, that is where you're going to have the fans phone level them right away their fall in love with them, because of stuff like Benny Snell football and his interview. And the fact that this kid in college just throw a stance away. He played in the ballgame. When everybody else was staying out to sacrifice to not sacrifice their chances of the broS. He didn't care. He makes a sacrifice for his teammates. So the fans love this guy the fan. I mean he is a committed guy. He's everything that old Pittsburgh Steeler football was about and everything that the fans went back. So this is a great guy to have in their how they're going to use them. They're gonna use James Connor. I now just like Jeff said they're gonna. Oh, they're going to spell them a whole lot more. So it's a great opportunity to go ahead and get this guy about six to eight carries a game like Dave said just to be able to keep Connor fresh. I hope that works. That's I mean, you the best, the best laid plans of mice and men, but will actually happen. Will you have to see this guy start games were Samuel start games? So it's a long season. We can't look in that crystal ball and know all I know is it's going to be a return a smash mouth football in a way because they're going to have the ability to do that. They we talked about this last week when we were talking about Ben Rothlisberger, you know, he's not going to have to throw thirty four touchdowns this year. You know, we're talking about losing fifteen touchdowns with Donio Brown. Well, if, if the defense is playing better and Ben Rothlisberger is playing better. They're not in shootout situations. They could dedicate to the run. So. Oh, much more. If the run is, is moving the chains and moving things along, then you have an opportunity to get these guys. Some work in Ben doesn't have to throw as much. So it will be smash mouth football and away with that option to go ahead and air it on out, because it's kinda the best of both worlds if everything works and the planets align. And that's what we're hoping that it's going to happen with Benny snow junior. But he's the perfect guy to put in the situation. The one thing I hope this dealers don't do is I'm fine with a goal line back or short yardage back. But I remember a couple years ago, I think his name was Terrell Watson was edit the, the nightmare. Yup. Team. And it just was it was awkward. I don't say awkward it just didn't look right? It didn't feel right? They were taking lady on bell off the field and later on, does ever been a badge where yardage back and it didn't always work. So if they're going to do this, it's gotta be more fluent. And I think they have to get Snell some reps that aren't just go line in short yardage. And, and see if that might pan out the Dave, you have some stats on him from college. Go ahead and dive into that, yes, I have some stats, but rather than just regurgitate a bunch of numbers to you guys. We're going to play a new game that all the young people were playing these days. It's called Snell or bell. Okay. So I'm gonna ask you a quick question and you are going to tell me which person the college stat belongs to. Benny snow or Le vian bell. All right. So I'm rather than make you have to ring in. I'm just going to ask one of you the easy one is going to go to Brian I because I know he knows this number forty eight rushing touchdowns. Smeller bell. First of all, when he said, we're going to play a game that all the kids are playing I thought we were going to be playing shag. Mary cal. I got really worried because I don't really want to do that with anybody in the Steelers. So. So help me understand this forty eight forty eight touchdowns in their three college in the three years of college was that. Well, I know this, my heart. It's Betty smell that was Benny Snell. Three seasons. Yes. And that's something I do want to stipulate. You guys both these guys played three seasons in college. They both came out after junior year. So here we go. I'm going to go to Jeff bell or Snell, or is it Snell? Her bell? I dunno whichever one odor. You wanna go, which had over one thousand yards rushing all three years of college. I'm going to say snow. That would be correct. Benny Snell had hit went over a thousand yards all three years of college levian bell did not he only had he did. He did not go over thousand yards. His first two years. Okay. Brian to you double digit rushing touchdowns. All three years of college. I'm gonna say Snell as well because he at forty eight that's correct. It would be snout that was another easy one for you. Okay. Jeff, I'm going to say seventy eight receptions over three years of college. You gotta have a lady on bell, and here sooner or later, I'll say Bill that one's about seventy eight to throw in. Snow only had twenty nine but he did increase both his receptions and yards each year. Okay, here. We'll, we'll go this one to Brian we'll, we'll get back to the rushing rushed for an average of over five yards per Percy per carry each of his college years. Let's why I might not say that right in every year for for the year. He averaged over five yards a carry all three years of college. I'm going into. That's a tough one. I'm going to say Snell, because if I'm not mistaken, the average five put one. Yeah. He was here he was over five yards in each of his three years of college. I was very good levian bell with his rushing. Didn't did not do it his junior year of college. So I'm going to do one last question to Jeff. Snower bell had over seventeen hundred yards rushing, their their, their last year of college. I'll say snow and we finally stumped. You guys that would was Levy on bell, even though he ever because the problem was he he he rushed for three hundred eighty two yards is, is junior three hundred eighty two rushes his junior year. So although he had a lot more yards than Snell did in any one year that he rushed. It's because he he was the boss anytime his final year at Michigan state. So if you really want to look at it, I know I don't expect then he smells to be a levian bell. I really don't but he could be I know. I don't know that everyone expected Levy on bell to be Levy on bell. But he put up some really good college stats. So that's just I kinda wanted to just throw those out there. And I thought that was kind of a fun way to do it with doing it now ban. Absolutely. It's good stuff there. So he's no junior fourth round draft pick expectations are high. I'm not sure they should be that high. I hope that fans are prepared for James to the feature back the Steelers like their feature backs. They always have the always will, and that doesn't mean he won't get his carry. So here we go guys quick over under the finish up any still junior. We'll go with Brian. I over under averaging ten no eight touches a game. Averaging on the season. Unfortunately, I think it's going to be under. But I'm hoping it's not. And I do want to say one more thing about Benny snow junior before we go onto something else. The man did not do this in, in the big twelve conference didn't do it in the Pac ten he did this against SEC defenses. And that's a pretty big deal to me. What about you, Dave? I was doing some quick calculations. You said you said eight. I said touches I eight yeah, what did you say touches or carry high said touches? Ooh. That changes a little Zach, therefore, although I don't know that they're gonna throw him the ball with ton. I think Jalen San was going to get the ball thrown to him a lot more. But just a couple of them, what would really help. That's one hundred twenty eight touches for the season. I'm going to go. I'm gonna go. That's that's, that's the killer number right there, man. Who you're right on it. It makes it again. I'm going to go over because I think I'm banking. One hundred percent of the fact that he's going to get over twenty five carries on week seventeen k at the truth. Team hurts. I want everything to be wrapped up for the Steelers James Connor and Benny Snell, they'd just go in and hand him the ball three hundred and fourteen times. Okay, we'll see. We'll see I'm gonna take the over. I think that they find a whole for a spot for him or he's gonna get more carries. The most people think I hope fingers crossed or I said, look, we have a short amount of time here, probably a five minute window where we're going to open up the show to your questions right now on the QA in the live chat. We have almost one hundred people maybe right around there in the lecture. If you have a question for the show, now's your chance to enter that in there. We'll do the best. We can answer as, as we can. But if you really want your question answered a guarantee way to do it. It's use the super chat feature where it says chat publicly at BTS's Steelers radio to the right hand side is a little money symbol. You can donate any amount of money goes straight to the show at high. Let your question we will guarantee to answer it anything Steelers specific, and yet you can do that, or you can. Fire away for the questions for the show, and we'll see, you know, I have a question that was asked me on my show. The burning question I wanna ask you get started in the question is about Jalen Samuels? It's just kind of fitting that it's all about running backs today, d think Jalen Samuels flexibility in his ability to possibly be flexed out as in as the tight end not as an inline tight end. He's not a blocker. Do you think that allow the Steelers to not have to target a tight end either in free agency or earlier than when they did Zach entry in the NFL draft? And we'll start with you. Absolutely. I think h back, I think Frank white check who did so much for the Tennessee titans over in the late nineties early two thousands. That would be a perfect situation for a guy like Jalen hill. So, yes, I said it on my show that I thought his versatility gave us the flexibility to not have to go out and take a, a high and tight end or spend broad. Dave. Do you agree or disagree? I think it helps. That's why I mean, although they did put in the way they did put in a waiver claim although they did not get it him for the tight end. That was that was released by the jets. It looks like that. The Steelers are still open to the idea of a tight end. But do they have to, I think Jalen Samuels helps that, but I really think they're going to know more what they wanna do after OT as just seeing what they a little bit more what they have in gentry, even if it's football and shorts and if grumbles making improving at all either that is it. How much of a is it a big need? Or is it or is it a luxury is what it basically comes down to? Next question. Rapid fire will start with Brian how many touchdowns for then he smelled junior, this year's from Ron. Six dave. Five. Jeff, too, okay? Another question here will Big Ben repeat with the most passing yards in two thousand nineteen rapid fire Brian that's from heath. Nope. Doesn't need to Dave. That was my answered. No because he won't have to. Okay. There you go. That's good. Okay. Now. What's that? If he does because the Steelers are trouble. All right to next question here. This might be a little bit longer up. Hold on. We have super Chad see the trumps, everything, Trump's everything Felicia, donated some money. And she said, thanks for the last and infra have a great weekend. Oh my gosh. She didn't has a question. You're the best Felicia. Thank last week too. Lisa. All right. Let's see here. To where was it? I had one. Oh, here, it is shield asked what is each of your most memorable Heinz field game experience? Brian, we'll start with you. I would have to say October thirty first two thousand four the Steelers in Ben Rothlisberger his rookie season beating the patriots. I was there, I high fide, high five Jesus in the parking lot and. And he actually made Sports Illustrated. The, the guy in the Jesus suit the Jesus costume and then the very next week against the undefeated eagles as well. So. Two weeks in a row. I got to do that a whole lot back then that was before children. What about dangerous season ticket holder? This might be tough. It is. It's super tough because. They're, they're all memorable. They've really are the patriots game last year was great. But the guy that I took with me wasn't as good a company as other times. No, he wasn't even a Steelers fan, but. The last minute. And man. The playoff game against Miami was very memorable because it was cold and they and they crushed when they crushed San Francisco that was when when chaser went nuts when they when when I was at the Oakland game. When, when aby set the records of that one does not as memorable now because things played out. So. I'm. I'm going to say, I'm going to shock you all. I'm going to say the meaningless week four preseason game last year because I took my daughter to her first game there. He goes sentimental. That's nice. That's so sweet. Oh, yeah. Hope she's listening. Okay. Some commenters gonna destroy you on that day. No. Because all the other games were so good. It's just so hard to decide it really is. I can tell you which ones were bad, though, who. Yeah. Well mine is simple in. I think it's two dozen twelve was that the they started four when they went to England and lost in Minnesota or is that he doesn't thirteen this twelve right? Twelve yeah. That year. Team. Because Bill was there. That's right since he doesn't thirteen I was selected by NBC the Steelers fan of the week and I got to be when they played the Chicago Bears. Jay Cutler on Sunday night football. I was there for that. And I, I was able to go on the Sunday night, football boss. We went on we were there for the whole weekend like the first night, we had dinner at grill, thirty six on the house that we went to remain brothers on Saturday. And we got to make our own sandwich. Had a contest there for us. We went up to the incline, which I'd been there a million times, but it's still pretty cool. Drove around I got her pictures taken with the clemmie statue, tailgated front. The game had awesome sees. They lost that game which sucks. But ultimately, that's my best. I, I haven't been the Heinsohn many times these guys have Brian you're laughing hysterically. What is funny? For Matty's I over two keys. All right. We have a couple, we have a couple of super chat questions Ryan asks, do we think there should have been any players that should have been kind of policing Antonio Brown last year, so that he didn't turn into such as he calls? It quote unquote. A diva toured real quick, Brian. What are your thoughts? That's tough. No. I mean they. Can't follow him around in this was kind of unprecedented, so, no. Okay. Okay. What about you? Dave last year. No, it would have he needed to be fixed with his attitude long before. Then I don't someone even coming in last year wasn't going to help. I don't he's not only was he so egotistical than it wouldn't have mattered Ben Rothlisberger Cam Hayward. The leaders of the team, they all would have said they would've said, hey, knock it off, and he's not gonna listen and he's a grown man so he can do. He's gonna do it every once anyways shield ninety one. He was one that asked about behind good experience that he's had to do first game this season. He thanks to the answers use the super chat feature. Hey, man. It is a it is a mecca for Steeler fans. I don't care if it's just a preseason game. You have to get there. I haven't been there as much as Bryan and Dave, you have to get. There you save your money. You don't have to go there for a big game. Sometimes you can get cheaper tickets for the games that are, like leave him, not Nike names are not always as expensive because a lot of people don't want to go and Dave. Was one of those people that just want to go to a Nike. He's trying to sell that ticket try. I'm trying to sell dolphins tickets. Oh, hey. Oh, hey. Lowered lower deck. Endzone section one twenty two. Hit me up on Twitter. But yeah, so you gotta get there. Right, brian. Yeah. And you know what a shield Ninety-one if this is your first ever game, I want to give you some serious advice. Make sure for the first time you go in the front entrance you walk in and you just stop. You're going to be in the end zone. Breathe it all in, because it Jeff was saying that it was a mecca lake experience. Just get there early enough walk around. Enjoy that stadium. It is there's things that I've been there, probably over thirty times. And there's still things that I see new every single time I'm you go into that great hall, you go just enjoy it and have fun. You will never forget walking in the first time. Throw something in with that. I know you might like tailgating ahead, never to the parking lot. But I wouldn't park there. I would go to station square pay ten bucks to park twelve bucks. A person if you're if it's your first time take the gateway clipper. It's just it's icon ick. Pittsburgh, I do it almost every time I go the only time I'd have used the clipper was in the playoff game against Miami when when it was no it wasn't my game. It was Jacksonville playoff game when it was flooded. And I couldn't run it. It's just it's just part of the experience. Dave there, a couple of commenters want your Twitter Twitter handle. They're looking for this dolphin ticket. So you might have just told your tickets. The same as my Email that we had to plug for forever. Superfan dad? L ourse superfan to type it in. All right. More characters. That's true. Just make sure you get the last super Jack question. I'm trying to see which are laws. Beyond say, Arianna Guerande and Drake are talked about ad nauseam as celebrities. But there's one thing that's rarely discussed their music on switched on hop. 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The super chatty will we do a live chat questions from snowman. He said, well, we do a lot of to have Lance. Dave, brian. We did that for the NFL draft after round one. I don't know. I mean what are you? How'd you think that when it's such a different dynamic? Lance Lance than I have a report, we've been doing this for a long time. I have a report with each of you matter. No. Brian, I was your first time ever talking to land set. Did you think that what? Okay, I loved it. In fact, he's, he's my new spirit animal. I mean, I feel like I feel like I can learn a lot from Lance. I'm a huge fan. I think lamp Lanson I doing a show together. Just the two of us would probably get views in probably get us blocked. So. The funniest thing is, is they getting bent with Bo. Bo who won our first contest. He has never liked. He was the one to call them. The I key account sky way back when we started on YouTube. And he's, I go, no. Oh, that's great. That's good. Dave, you're on mute. Dave. You're meted yourself. I gotta be careful of getting that backwards because my allergies are going crazy. I've been sneezing the whole time I've hopefully I've been muted every time it's needs. I really enjoyed that was with Lance, I was kind of rushing around in order to do that. Because I, I had hit up that vendors Ed game premier. But my oh by internet was shot. But because they were there was an attack on our internet carrier, and I got disconnected, several times, I was so bummed because that was a lot of fun. But it was all of us. Maybe we should think about doing that after we, you know, we have nothing else to do free profile while these draft picks during the summer. Maybe we'll find a time or definitely before the season. I'm going to do a preview show, and we'll get lands on there so he can predict the Steelers ago and sixteen 'cause they suck and he hates him. So with Ed, that will cut off the questions. They're great questions. I love doing that. Little portion of the show. I am now we get into the fun stuff, and that's our either or segment, and I have a quick one and it comes off the top of my head. Because Brian just mentioned walking into Heinz field for the first time what's more memorable for you. What at that first time e everyone can envision those those tunnels when you walk into a field. It doesn't matter. What field does matter foot it Rena? What's more memorable walking into this through this tunnels and all of a sudden a sprawling? Baseball field is there or a football field. So, in other words in Pittsburgh, going to PNC park and seeing that beautiful skyline. And seeing that field, just manicured like none other or going into Heinz field seeing the yellow stands the terrible towels. The big catch up autos atop, the scoreboard Brian, which is the better experience for you. You know, growing up, I was actually a more of a pirates fan than I was a Steeler fan. And then in the eighties that kind of flip flopped. My first experiences were were the cigarette ashtray of three rivers stadium. I love that, but it was a cookie cutter. I mean it was in Philadelphia. It was in Saint Louis. I mean it was Cincinnati was everywhere, and that turf. There was always when we were growing up in the eighties, there was always an old car in the end. If you want. If you watch this is like old nine thousand nine hundred seventy six Pinto in the corner. But it's. I would probably say, you know, the greatest experience for me is to walk into what was walking into Heinz field the first time and it was a beautiful experience, because it was the first regular season game in two thousand one and it was in the backdrop of September eleventh because it was right after September eleventh eleventh, the first game was. They had a move that game to January because of the tragedies and it was just a different time and anybody that lived through lived through that time knew that you're out of football game. But everybody was actually glued to the, the news, because there was a fear of a bombing at the time because this was like I said, this was October. This was right right after the event, and I remember walking in, in seeing that, and just feeling like I was at church and feeling like this was my scape from all the craziness that was going on outside, and I will never forget looking up at those catch bottles looking at everything going on and just feeling that everything was going to be okay 'cause I was in the stadium, and that might sound crazy it might sound dramatic. But it was something special to me. I have a feeling Heinz field Heinz field, a very similar way after the synagogue shootings in Pittsburgh this past season. I'm pretty sure that's probably very. Similar. Dave, what about you in terms of either were baseball stadium or football stadium? Your first time walking in, you know that this one is going to be, I think football stadium, I've actually never been in PNC park. I wanna one two three of us we're going to be doing. You'll trae coming. We'll see you later. With you. I told you the last time I was at a pirates game was at three rivers stadium. And it was the major league debut of Tim Wakefield. Yeah. That was the last pirates game. I've been to. So I never I never saw a. What's that? It's still rattled off the entire ninety two roster. I yep. To that. But I, I never saw a football game in three rivers stadium. But I've but I've never seen a baseball game at PNC. I've only ever seen on my baseball games. I've been to a lot of pirate games. But not since that Tim. If you when I went to that a lot as a kid on my, my first game at Heinz field. Was the against the ravens in, in week sixteen of two thousand four Ben Benz rookie here, the day after Christmas, and I didn't know I was going to that game until I found the tickets in the jacket pocket that my wife got me on Christmas day. So that was that was that's still are legendary Christmas present story. But yet to me it's, it's it's always been about the football. I played little league grown-up, but I did not play high school baseball, but I played football. Yeah. See I I'm a baseball guy. I love football. I'm on a baseball guy at heart and there's something about even when it was at three Reseda him walking through. And you see that ball dead, the diamond that baseball diamond and now at PNC park. Oh my gosh. If I don't care if you're sitting in the right field bleachers. You have to walk in on the first bayside. Just go into see you see that city dropped the backdrop and you see the field. It is stunning gives me chills. I seriously have chills right now, just because I've, I've movie guy, I love all the baseball movies and stuff. And it's just very cinematic for me nothing against football but there's something that's a little bit more dramatic. I also liked the weather you're typically in the summer, you know, so you're there. It's comfortable. You're it's baseball for me, so that's it. That's my word, Dave. Go ahead. What's yours? Okay. Mine's also Pittsburgh won. We all three we grew up all three of us grew up in different states. But we all grew up in the Pittsburgh sphere of influence. I know Jeff was in West Virginia, the wheeling area Brian was at Johnstown. I grew up in the mountains of western Maryland into deep creek lake area. So we were all within that sphere of influence with with TV and radio. So I wanna know growing up when you were in the car, or whether it was to go to bed or what it was getting up in the morning, and you had to turn on that radio station where you, turn you turning into one or two point five, W, D, V, E, or were you turning into before it was the fan. The infamous be ninety four. I personally was a DVD guy. I just thought they were. I thought they brought a different element to it. I was a DVD guy. Go ahead. Brian, what, what would you do? Okay. I, I have to start off in Johnstown, even though we had, we had access to both WD and to be ninety four. I started off with a station called w CRO twelve thirty AM and I can even tell you the lineup of the DJ's, because I was a big DJ guy, Casey Kasem was on there. And I actually became a DJ, and then I graduated to the top forty music, ninety two point one WGLA you, which I actually after in college I was actually on that radio station for four years. So I just have to throw those out because they're, they're my favorites growing up. It was it was ninety three seven. It was Quinton banana in the morning. I can still remember their skits. The morning, but when it was high school, it became DV, Paulsen Cran. And it was that ever since if I go to Pittsburgh, now it's DV. Dave. Well, if I go to Pittsburgh now, I have no choice for DV because of, however, be ninety four went away. But as a kid, it was be ninety four just like Brian said it started off with the with the Quinta banana. But when I was in high school, and then into college, it was the John, Dave Bubba Shelly morning show, the Friday song that they would sing, you know, I don't wanna work. I just want to bang on the drum all day and all the crazy stuff. They used to do that was my go-to. I enjoyed the music they're more for the rest of the time. But then as I got into college in the evenings when I would when I'd be working and did never TV sitting in a retail store that no one came in. I'd have the radio on to WD because they add some hilarious skits. Of a NAT, man, and Robert and pants net. And some of that other stuff was pretty good too, so they were both really good. But be ninety four was always my go-to, and I all right. Brian bringing up the rear. Guys. I just I called an audible. I had a great. I had a great karate kid themed one, 'cause I'm really into the right. Right now. But. Dave in both of you have me inspired thinking about growing up in my roots. So let's talk about famous Pittsburgh broadcasters. No. No fun. Or no doubt about Atlanta for Terry. Lanting for Terry. I mean, the guy got kicked off the squad because he criticized the team. They lost twenty years in a row. I'd be critical to Lenny. For Terry was the man. He was the man period of Dave. Dave. I didn't listen to lane for Terry that much. Because he didn't like baseball. Yeah. I mean I. Yeah. I, I didn't really get the baseball. So that's not going to be as much for me. I, I really couldn't tell you, I wouldn't 'cause my only choice. I mean, I'm sorry. It's Myron cope and you didn't even include that, as, as someone the play by play guy. Dave. Listen to the radio. Play by play because he did the commentary doesn't play if you. Yeah. I know I said ledger broadcasts, if you throw Myron out there it's over. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me ask you this then. Cope or Mike Lang probably taking Mike Lang. Brian. Brian, I'm Mike Lang is a living legend. I know Myron cope was too. Just say go cope cope. Why? Because because I'll never forget back in the day watching ESPN and they're doing penguin highlights. And he's thrown out, the Michael, Michael motorcycle and all this stuff. And they're like I have no clue what that man, just said. And then he said something else is like, yeah. Again clueless. And I just never forget that. And I think he's fantastic. I think he knows the game. I love listening to him on the radio when he's actually just talking about the team when in the afternoon. I think the guy's fantastic. I'm a coke guy. And I will always be cope. I mean gosh, my Email Saint Myron, and it's nothing for nothing else. But the fact that it's Myron cope, I cried the day, the man died. My kids were alive on this earth for five minutes. And they had a Myron cope bobble and a terrible towel wrapped around him round them with with. His name on it. So it's Myron cope. He's done. Original question, go ahead. We'll wait. Hold on. Go ahead. Okay. We're we already opened up the box go. Jeffy Myron is an icon by every stretch of the imagination. He created the terrible towel. He had the UAW in terms of what he brought to the game in my opinion. I don't think anyone has done a better than Mike Lang because Mike Lang is a pros pro, and he does a tremendous job calling hockey games, which is extremely difficult because it's such a fast paced game. There's less time. There's less breaks, and he yet injects his own personality in his own mix so beautifully that it's so local. That's what I love about Mike line if you're from Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh area and you listen to grown up, you will listen to him on the Radio Free on the penguins AB over the Jag offs. They put on the TV because he's that good. Myron cope was. Color. He was color commentary. Some sometimes you got so flummoxed didn't know what you were saying. I just think I'm not taking anything away from Myron cope. I love the guy. I just have to go with Mike lying. I think he's, he's up there. When people talk about the greatest hockey announcers of all time his name is being brought up, when you talk about the greatest color commentaries of football, I don't think in terms of the NFL, landscape cope is, is being brought up that often he's a local lore is what I'm saying. So okay, let's, let's look at it this way. Then let's just let's throw Jack Fleming love, I'm Jack Fleming guy. Loved the guy and I actually listened to West Virginia football for, for a number of years. Jack Jack was a legend when he's calling the macula reception is just just amazing. So let's throw Jack out, and let's come. Let's change us up. Let's go Lang since he did play by play and landing. You're not going to go back to Bob prints. I can't go back to. But I still think I still think, is lying for me now. Yes. Yes. Mike lying is amazing. I don't think you guys you're talking about two sports and football and baseball. That has so much downtime. I'm talking. We're dick Yetlis amounts of downtime, they'd great round in Jim in Bob walk two years ago. They were playing the parts are playing in Philadelphia. I'm listening to the game. They spent a they had a five minute conversation on Philadelphia cream cheese. I am not joking. Five minutes. It's just a different game. You call the game differently. Mike lying. I did just is it's really really, he's really, really good in my opinion. But do you have, like Bill Hillgrove? That's a good question because I know unloved a Billy. What about you? Dave, you keen on Bill Hillgrove. Oh, yeah. And I'll tell you what I the last time I was up at the fan. Blitz draft party. Whatever it was. Oh, you just miss. It was T J watt was drafted. We just bist him. It was up in the in the season ticket holder section. It was raining on the field by kids didn't get to go out and do this stuff with Roosevelt, next week or signed up to do but not many people had found whether the season ticket holder area was there was hardly went up there. I think I sat and talked to him for fifteen minutes. And he was just a fantastic down to earth guy. I'll be honest with you. I don't I would rather listen to baseball on the radio than watch it on person. That's fine. I think I think that, that it's a fantastic. Listen on the radio I could be driving home for something in a night and say, I'm going to see if there's a baseball game on the radio and I'll be listened to be really into it. And as soon as I'm home, I'm not going to go in and turn on the TV to finish it, because it's just not the same for me. I have lots of memories of hearing baseball, but I'll be off when it came when I was a kid. Listen to the pirates. I don't remember the guy's name. I really just. I really didn't. But Mike Lang, I still will will listen to penguins games. Now, now, I know he was out and wasn't able to even do the playoffs this year, which was really sad. But it's got to be laying. Yeah. I dated they paint a picture and guys that are on the radio. It's tough. I mean you have to paint the picture in the only thing I the only crack in hill grove is home, miss plays, sometimes. And I'll never forget a game against the cargo bears. I wanna say it was two thousand and nine they went to Chicago. Rex Grossman, I believe might have still been the quarterback for the bears. Those pass down the sideline and we ha- we couldn't watch the game. I brother satellite dish was all jacked up. And this is the year after they won Super Bowl forty-three and Rick to. Yeah. Instead there was a play in the end zone was like a jump ball and Hillgrove is intercepted. It knows touchdown. I'm like, come on, man. You're killing me. You're killing me. Just got me all excited. It's touchdown. And an interception knows it's such. And I remember when Rashard mendenhall fumbled the football in in overtime against the Atlanta Falcons. And he picked it up himself and still ran it. In the remember that is in overtime. Yeah. Wasn't that? Like a fifty yard touchdown. Yeah. He bought that call to goes any phone wasn't. Oh my gosh. It's loosen. He's scored the touch wed. What school you couldn't follow what he was saying? No, no, no, no. That's my only knock on Billy. But he's, he's good. They're all good. So you know what this, this was really an episode in futility because we have really been blessed with. Downsizers I mean 'cause I grew up with Lanny. And so, I'll probably always go back to Lanny. I mean, but, you know any criticism that I haven't Mike Lang is, is, you know, it's small because he's that good too. And even the guys that are there now but we have Bill Hillgrove tons. I mean you got to you can't say enough about punch, and Joe blocks. Really good. And now and now Steve glasses retiring after an amazing career. So there's been so many good voices that we've had in the city. So fantastic one last thing to add this, and that is I have a set of headphones for my television that I used. Sometimes when have we little kids, you don't wanna TV to be loud. So I have the headphones that I wear on their wireless or many way anywhere, and it would be a lot of times, I would turn sports on, and listen to it when I would go into bedtime with my son, and we just kind of just be, you know, snuggling in, in in my recliner, that's in his room and listening. And you realize how not nearly as skilled, the TV guys are, and how much they take for granted that you're seeing what's going on in the screen. Oh my goodness. Trying to listen to the NCAA tournament basketball, you. They weren't telling you who had the ball. They were telling you, anything you could not get anything from the sports just from their audio. You have to watch it with those guys that call it for TV. That's why I'm like, I'm turning this off. I'm finding a radio station because those guys know how to paint the picture. I mean, you think about Bill remember listened to and Rothlisberger in the shotgun Willie. Parker sidecar, right. Three three wide receivers. And you're just you're, you're envisioning it Ben gets the snap jobs back looks right? Fires less antenna. You can you're patriots. You're there it's li-. It's, it's, it's a live and your brain. I could talk about announcers. I love announcer. So anyways that we've gone a little longer. I hope you guys didn't mind. I know we didn't mind thanks for all the people that contribute it in the live chat tonight. Forget, the this giveaway all that information at the very beginning of the shows if you're joining us late, how to get the St. the free Steelers juju Smith shoes. Here's your hashtag, it is. Hashtag juju. 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BONUS: Benny Snell Jr Joins the SnapBack Pod!

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30:30 min | 1 year ago

BONUS: Benny Snell Jr Joins the SnapBack Pod!

"What's up snapback FAM- welcome back another episode of the snapback sports pile on this episode? We had the opportunity to talk to banish. Now running back Pittsburgh steelers. Obviously this hurt my heart to say but he was really dope even though he goes against my ravens twice a year. But I think you guys will definitely enjoy. The interview. Talked everything from nickelodeon hosting playoff games. That the steelers could be into to the swag. You guys know Benny. Because at Kentucky he had that dope video we staring at the camera and it became a worldwide nationwide viral gift and it was just amazing but we talked about a whole host of things that I know. You will totally enjoy snapback. Fam- let's get the Baltimore. Ravens Select Lamar Jackson. Rain is all all you every talk Philadelphia Ryen. Look up snapback them. We are super excited to welcome. Benny Snell running back. Pittsburgh steelers to the at backs. Words pod Benny. Welcome to the snapback family or man. I appreciate what is going on up in Ohio Man. Not much just working out training. Getting remarkable is A really been outside much other than that's where you've been grinding is in the garage. That's been Brian in the garage. Stray Joe Workout. Okay all of that so I'm not GONNA lie. I'm Kinda pissed off because I told you before we started the pod. I'm from Baltimore Ravens Fan and when I was doing my research I was like I really hope I can just hate this guy. You're just like way too cool have weights garage. Break a really dope dude. So it's kind of upsetting but I'll I'll put my ravens steelers differences aside just just the say. Do we want to go to my Penn State Kentucky differences or. You guys can hash that out right now. If you I mean come on Guy Hence they play Kentucky in the Citrus Bowl my senior year and this guy comes out here breaking records on our squad at that point. I didn't really care because like I wanted to go to the playoffs but I mean we just got absolutely works by this morning. It always definitely Damar. Never forget it was crazy that was unreal going into the game. How many yards? You needed to break the record of our so. Do we want to play like on just asking my coach life where we at where we at and have time? I knew I was like dying defies criminal at the half on my coast. You gotta you gotTa do this thing all right. So I mean assuming you ended on a touchdown run right damn well how many yards you need it on that. Play you snake but yeah you already know? I was doing research as well and I saw a lot of the past. Where you? That's Benny snuffle. Can you give our our listeners? A ONE ON ONE. A one hundred hundred to`real one now. Football is okay so my answered ince changed over over the time of me getting that name right now for any snow football. I describe it is. What you see is is really hard to say. Best is what you see but you know that is just like we penn state and whoever else you know you'll keep running that. I can see the defense tire you know. I'm having a mylar obvious. Amac I'm Young. I'll be I'LL BE GETTING NOTHING. I'm waiting so this hard knows when a football we just keep running and running and we go keep moving to Change Benny. So we've recorded with so many guests a bunch of Football Pires Bunch back up ice and we can never find a trash talker but I think we finally got our guy we need someone with that swagger who's been Just trashed her. We talked to US neck ler. He's an incredible fire with Loki. We need someone who wants to run you over them talk. That's Max which is where I think a little bit comes from snow yet which is like a dope is slogan. Ever Cook. You know saying. Where'd you get that trash talking from? What is yeah means you? Oh so is my brand. My personal brains It came about. I WANNA say my sophomore year in college and Actually got it tattooed across my stomach to talk to my naked body from here but Yeah a lot of it forever talking with me and it just comes from me let it be having fun like. I know that you know if I'm walking along with the player Open the he makes the tackle. You know I'm GonNa come back to times harder you know and I'm Gonna. Trust talk at half while doing it so it's not like I'm just crazy not it control you know. I'm like low key having fun smile while I'm doing so because you obviously you're new to the league. I'm curious if that trash talking like is there a level where you say okay? I should probably call it like. Are you just going out and talking? Trash like von Miller and Aaron. Donald like it's nobody's safe when it comes to your talking all yeah. There's there's no there's no life nobody say it goes definitely. I try to be cool and like you not go too crazy. 'cause already cameras on me so right well did you. The camera was on you. You obviously knew the cameras on you but obviously there was a viral gift from your years of Kentucky with something happened. Maybe you have more insight and no gifts. I'm talking about where the CAM is just looking at. You and your arms are crossing your sword. Yeah what happened before that man? So tech saying no sophomore year. I'll I WANNA say it's fourth quarter. And this was the touchdown and I was GONNA put us up so we ran inside zone. And how scored the touchdown but it was so big of a pile on the inside. I was looking down and I seen my feet were in the end zone but like the pile pushed me back and then I got chocolate himself outside zone so we went over to the side. Learn what it was reviewing I could see the little Kim and coach stoops and my office because he's like where did you score? Like Noah scored. I know our school so when the camera chain I knew. I scored a touchdown on like all year. They are ready for the camera. At that point I love it. You just always know where the camera is. It seems like another example is the mouthguard. What how'd you all? I mean literally the coolest. I think the pose that you hit after touchdowns number one but that mouthguard sick to what. Where did you come up with again? Really that's just is in college too. I came across them off. These are real very young. I was one of the first people like you can be hip to it and then when I brought it out you know people were lovely and and the people that I was going to opponents. They were hating it like when you when you blow on a little spin right. Murphy's and makes this little womb Lewis carnivals. I'll be everybody task. That's that's that's that's sick. I mean half the game I mean you think it's what thirty three percent football. We'll call it thirty three percent trash talking and then about thirty three thirty four percent drip so like you gotTa have like since you've gotten your money since you've You've come to the league. What was your first like big purchase when you gotTA contract contract definitely? My first big purchase wasn't my car What are you driving? I'm driving a twenty nineteen bench trucks. Let's say that's off all black really. That is very that is very very dope. All Right Benny. I know we put our differences aside but it into it. I'm a Ravens Fan. You play for the Pittsburgh. Steelers we knocked. You haven't seen tell me? What is that rivalry like are the are the players really hitting harder? What's it like seeing Lamar out there for the first game? We obviously sat out the second game. You feel that rivalry do feel that hatred for them or do we feel like the rivalry because in my opinion it has moved a little from that hard hitting Roy Powell era. Like you know you guys actually pretty heavily focused on offense aside and so are we now. But tell me about that definitely I definitely feel divide Any any any weeks like going to like that so you know it was just to start the game off like it was It was Irany it was it was muddy and this is the second time that plays all that. I'M BURNT TO DOT com. Plays a little bit more. I mean it was. It was crazy. That was a real intense gang Just real like grimy getting to see Lamar for the first time though Like in the League. It was really like it was like a moment for me because Kentucky I was I was going against him are even when he When heisman right like argue pretty good player because he was arrive within? So he's my rival again. I guess but yeah. He's definitely a hell of a player. Minor he he. He did a lot of things that people can outdo. We're back to this. Let me ask you then. So your one of your teammates and your boy limb Bowden has been modeled to us in the draft so I not your homie and I know you'll arrive with him through everything. But how would you? How would you balance that relationship if you was a raven? He's obviously arrival. But he's still wearing her best friend. Andrew Today. He's always going to be more homey. But if we're going if we are on the same team if you're not wearing black or yellow I've got I've I feel that. So you talked about when you when you first played. Lamar and it was very cool moment because you are in your rookie year. He was in second year but we hear all the time like come to the league moments was there. Did you like in your first couple games early on the season have come to the league moment. Where like a guy didn't hit coming from a big play or something like that. I wanted to just put you on your ass. Damn I'm here. I Guess Oh man most definitely there's really special teams especially changes where they re really at war with boys but and I'll never forget it was on kick concern. We're finding the Dolphins. This least expect it so we were trying to kick return and I wasn't the main return. I was wondering about blocking like the second line we have. This little scheme was go across and block or do I kind of across the field. I was looking at him and they had a whole nother. Do come in for me. Hey Hey permit straight on my on my. Oh my gosh get up. Because extra slow. He found his trash talking after that. How how is it going from? I mean you're the star running back at Kentucky and you're going to be a star in the league but you had at least swallow your ego for a little imply on special teams and then you crushed it like Mike. Tomlin said that was what he was. Most excited about was that you took that role responsibility this year and he knows you're going to be a part of the future. They're what's it like going from all the same power at running back through smashed by Dolphins Route? No that's a great question. Gradu- that honestly with me. I feel like I'm kind of like an old school like me. I'll get it out the mud and grinds however you know for that kind of these kind of new generation guys. Just want to you. Know they just want they just want to play. They're interested in emery. Yeah so when special teams? That's that's this is getting off the mud like I was excited. I was excited to be on the field and right away whether it was making a tackle or not because I know I know I can make tacos are knocker. Run the ball so you know anything they want me to do. I'm a do it to the best love to hear that. Did you grow up a big Fan of the NFL? Like not even playing. Just watching. Honestly no I. I wasn't and it's funny though. It's funny that's all Ravens Fan. Because my dad say for the ratings. I didn't know that because sure did for about two or three years and this was this was around. I would only say like ninety eight to two thousand okay. I was like four. Yeah around the time. Was he on TV year before the superbowl team. I guess we want to nine. Yeah he was here before New Year before He ended up getting injured and after he got into. There was just. It was time to coach me. That work now. Wait till you see your dad played in the NFL but you just had no interest in the NFL. I mean he he. He played like I was around. I was around like watching them. And you know watching like the Buckeyes here and there but I'll be straight school playing outside now. I was inside watching. Tv playing video games or of football or baseball. Or whatever. So I went down to watching. You know it's funny. You say that because Jack and I these past few weeks have been doing this. Nfl draft zero Series of episodes where we're interviewing a bunch of guys that are going to the draft that are going to be drafted this year. We're going to drop it closer but we ask almost every guest that same question like did you grow up a fan of the sport you clan and it really blows my mind data. We've gathered were none of these guys. Even clue yourself grew up really sports and it makes me think it's like damn is my love for sports. The reason I never made it Kinda taking a second guess manny. You can't see them right now. I can. I'm like to. He's not he's like five eleven he's facing line six six feet Max and one Guinea one. There's no sir. I actually played running back for a year. I was a soccer by but I hung up exceeds and put on the football pads for a year. My first year Kerry still put on cleats in my first career. Carry one for eleven yards in first out and then the rest of the season. I never carried the ball for positive yardage. I finished my career with negative twenty two yards. So yeah isn't that crazy. It's like the coach was playing exactly. It's a bad scheme finance what they said so where. I was going with that question. Kind of got derailed is. Was there a player? Obviously you didn't grow up a huge fan the NFL but maybe later on in college that was in the League that you try to model your game after or spent a Lotta hours watching film of in particular definitely so when I was when I was coming out of college Figure every Gabe was the guy. How top dog I'm talking about. I'm watching a monster him. Every time I ate dinner breakfast I just. I just fell in love with the way that he was blocking the way he was running the ball. He's able to catch this a little bit. You know in the flats but it was just a in what I've seen him. Throughout Idaho state it was it was crazy in day was able to transition. They're doing is kept watch. Yeah he has a special player a- because I'm a diehard eagles fan but I'm curious so you talked about the way Zeke runs and a little question for you what do you more you enjoy running someone over and just totally going through them or making them miss what I enjoy. The most is running someone over. Okay but only style. Yeah Downhill touchdown going through. But I. that's what I enjoy the most but I know that. Got Some not the smartest thing to do so I'm going to try to making this. Okay what's your go to Really I kinda like sharing the ball on my right hand so if I'm going to face guard somebody up. I'm like Shaka when my last four? I'M GONNA try to go through. You are left. Show too 'cause like that's like my Dad. I was talking to my best part So obviously we haven't asked this question to anyone before because it's pretty new but they the NFL just announced obviously they're adding playoff teams for next year. Two more teams and they also announced that one of the Games is going to be on Nickelodeon. So we're all young. Yeah Brow. They're gonNA put one of the wild card weekend games on nickelodeon think as well as like. Espn embassy. Are you sure? Know say eight little way. They're just loading it on Nickelodeon only number. I what I think. I think there's no way so that answers my question. Let me ask the question of like would you? Is it disrespectful to put your playoff game thinking about a ravens steelers? Hard hitting game. Wildcard around on Nickelodeon? I just weird. I definitely feel like that's kind of iffy but I still feel like people are going to know about the game so it's all about them. Tv sales or whatever because even connect game someone gets in the end zone in that game. It's like a celebration as their slime. Each other honestly would be really know so knock it a lot banney. I know you're a big Ideo Gamer. I know you crash home. We don't crush coddle out. What other Games do you wrong? So I'M GOING TO K. Craig CRAIG. He's trash. I'm not sure I played you in eight years. He's trash so y'all play who were women we use have battles growing up. We used to play every we used to play every single night here. I I think I was the sixers. I was the sixers they KC. You'd be the Knicks of Mela Mela mellows mid range into K. You could not stop to K twelve. Who's your squad when reply so usually spotted disturbed because I work with but doesn't doesn't booker. Okay Y- I know you supported the basketball spun out. Who are your boys from when you were there? Oh Man I got a lot so I got Bam are the by young for Miami father. Hero Miami Maliki monks The Hornets All those teams were so tough. Were so benny so tomorrow night. They're doing like a to k players only tournament and d-box in it and yesterday on the podcast even I did a bracket we fill out our bracket and think. Did you have booker in the final? Have you played with him before? Is He really nice? Trade Bam Bam Solano. He's I know he's like that though. Nice what what? Console you on playstation xbox. I'm on both but are mainly our xbox. That's next on the way to go so I have one of the episode that are trying to get. When's the last time that you saw or spoke to Ben Rothlisberger Big Bang? His face currently looks like what the Hell is going on with that beard man. That Corona Bro. My man looks like a lumberjack. From in from the Nineteen Fifties. Look Caveman. Look feeling did I feel. He's going to like come week one if he still has that thing like he's getting taken down a beard dear. I don't know how she will have a big beard. I don't know how they put their changed on true. Fortunately I can't grow out our beards problem talking Benny so besides video games. What else likes his business man? You got all that stuff but I wanna know what you learn. So I'm usually heavy on the video games. I'd be trying to have off challenge by this. This isn't I thought that I usually bring to the to the people so I'm GonNa Tell Ya drama. Please we got some breaking news on the PODCAST. I Beni the floor is yours. Suck Schefter so I really. I really be raft. You mentioned music. There have been a Lotta the examples and a lot of things that have ruined my life trying to do that and what I wanted to do. So I'm I'm staying underground until I'm ready so I just wanted to circus and say yeah. I'll be making music and I got a lot of parents wreck. Coordinate on a music down what what type of Music. I love to be featured I WANNA I wanna say it's like a kind of a a melody Kinda Rach Melody. Kinda but I know some somewhere. I'm just racking to some so you try to model your game after Zeke. Nfl football game one artists. Are you trying to model your your music career after? Like who yourself to compare myself to drake. This is not an object and this Harley way this is this is probably like saying drake my answer. 'cause he's he's way above me ahead of me but Jewish world. Mp's rest in peace. He was you're married. You KINDA got a little a little vocal in use some bars. Some some good piece. I see I see what you should. Your drop should be a highlight mix tape of all your Ron's from this year with your music on an peopling like Oh what's that song and then by men were better idea? We make a music video. The three of us do that way. I I'm willing to drive up a few hours away. Yeah I'M GONNA hit my boy we don't get. It started out in the backyard. I definitely liked that idea a lot. Beni. We do really appreciate you coming. The podcast one thing. I want to ask from you though is. Can you start Twi- channel? Because I feel like the people need to hear about you and they need to see you video definitely. That's that's definitely in the works right now. You're like a hundred person to say that I need to. I needed to start it. I've been music started. My game was crazy. Man I gotta put it on display. What's Your K. D. c? I don't know I'm looking Guy I don't pay attention to Katie. I dropped bodies so then you'RE K. So that your case should be up. There should be. It should be not GONNA lie Right I mean. I definitely want to sit. Benny who would you say your closest with around the League because we've talked to basketball players and we've talked to baseball players and they the basketball guys are always friends with other guys around the league with the baseball guys are just pretty much friends with their teammates on their squad. What's that look for you in the League Jersey swap definitely? Yeah definitely If you if you talked to any alumni off played on the team that you saw that right away without a doubt but But what was the question again for who your boys around the League on the team and so coming coming in rookie year basically. It's a Lotta the rookies I. I would say You know the guys that I can't remember what does the Onta- On other teams like say like my boy. I mean French for Seattle. Yeah it's it's really it's really select you and if anybody it'd be so it ain't even another like that. What's it been like playing with Mike? Tomlin notoriously one of the biggest player coaches in the NFL. We've seen that throughout the years. He sticks by his guys but also one of the more confusing guys are. I'm always hearing an interview for my common. And he says something and I'm just like what the fuck would you say? What is that like? There's always random close. What's it like flying for coach. Tomlin or I really enjoy. I really have a Lotta respect for coach He does a lot of great things for us at for the players for the team He's always speaking. It's like every time he speech he wanNA listen 'cause he's GonNa learn something from it and He's also upfront. Keep a straight up front. I like he won't sell you like something you don't WanNa hear no. Bs like that like He. Don't tell you straight up what it is. So that's why I got full respect for him and I love He. I'm looking at a few quotes from him right now. I'll tolerate you until I can replace you. That means like this guy but then I get to the bottom. He is a quote that says the standard is a standard. What the Hell is? How does that mean it was crazy? 'cause I've heard I've heard both those multiple times but The Standard is the standard. You gotta it's IT'S. It's the rules the rules you you know. We all know around Like the facility in in the organization how we need to work on how to do things actually into the standard is the standard. You can't know being late. They know none of that. You gotta be on Sunny. I am curious. We've never really talked to someone about this. But you're the only Pittsburgh steeler I've ever had on a fantasy team fun fact for the audience. What is like? Do you actually listen. If people are tweeting that you like you know bro like you had a bad game. I had your fancy. Do give a damn about that stuff. It's actually funny to me. It's so fun I actually my first. My first my first spends experience. I'll tell you so. It was like it was on twitter. Of course we'll just twitter nouveau after a game and they have my face on a on a milk carton also missing fantasy points. I say all sneak. I'll say making jokes are ready so I really don't but it's funny. Though so funny story I told my boys I would shout them out Shoutout feffer and spear but when I told them you were coming on and we also have. We're also recording with DJ more tomorrow. Hopefully and I told them both at once in there like that though. But I need you to Reim- both of them out because you and Dj more were both on their championship team. Starting in the starting lineup in the finals who owes needed a combined like eleven points and I think you put up like ten five or something. It was the game at the end of the season. The Milk Carton game I mean I think it's you can't listen obviously to people complain about fantasy because we're applying for like twenty bucks or something but I do think you still want to perform for your fantasy owners because that just means you had a dope game definitely and then it'll be it'll be more people at you it. Just go look exactly. You can't legally play fantasy football right within the league. I won't think care now. Actually I don't know why like teams I mean I understand why like if each organization had like their own fantasy league throughout like that'd be fun. I mean you collusion. It'd be collusion. It'd be hilarious. Benny was in the championship. Brownies plan against himself. He's up or down one and he just like intentionally fumbles the ball loses opponents or Benny's steelers day and they're giving up a big run two legs Danny from the sidelines. Sprints up the field and just tackles him in the middle of the field pulled that ship before did pull that against our. Jacoby Jones kick return. Yeah Jacoby Jones. Kick Return. Benny Oh one last thing before we let you all just to be conscious of your time. We want to make sure you get to shout out all your social media so I started on snapchat. We the biggest sports nap account. So we'll definitely give of on snap which I know you're the boy which is your or But what about swearing instagram? As well? So the boy much twitter is Benny underscore snow Real basic and then for instagram. I am Benny Spelled Jillian. All the way already low it up snapback fan blow it off. Xm We'll take care of you and then we gotta get that music video shots or connected. Evan after the call the banning thank you for coming on of luck to you this season. Even though you're on the dealers out still support them now we do. We do appreciate our love. I appreciate it Ma'am Festival block and come on whenever you to run into every twitch up and most importantly. I'll be hammering in about that say I'd rather stay safe. Thanks for coming on

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The Curtain Call, Part 2: Will the Steelers double-dipping of Aggies spread nothing but joy?

Behind the Steel Curtain

30:04 min | 3 weeks ago

The Curtain Call, Part 2: Will the Steelers double-dipping of Aggies spread nothing but joy?

"All right ladies and gentlemen time for the second. Half of the curtain call Once again my name is michael beck. Joined us always by jeffrey benedict. Jeffrey what do you think of the to texas guys are are you. Are you excited about about their presence or are they two guys that you were expecting to go in the fourth round her. What's your kind of vibe. When these two guys authur with buddy johnson. I think he did a great job. Talking funny johnson and really So people in the live chat were saying but he sounds like they're saying he sounds like a more athletic version of events williams and that's what we were saying on this show. What of the steelers need. They need vince williams but more athletic as of this. This young guy is gonna come in and beat that kind of a player right. He's that kind of a player and he's gonna have bins williams and i no doubt mike tomlin vents. Like get into this kid's head what it means to be a steelers linebacker Somebody did an article talking about and they talked events williams about it about what it meant and what he would he first came to the steelers of what was taught to him by veterans by former players The quotes from people like like talking. About how vince williams is carrying that steeler linebacker attitude of just go in there and be like the biggest dog in the on the field. Beat that dude. It just goes in there and takes the will out of the other team. I think you're gonna see my column. Pull vincent say hey you get that into this kit. Because he has that ability he has that kind of mentality so unexcited. I i love the idea of him. because he's he is the guy we wanted like we know about him. At the time we really into buddy johnson but as we look into him he is exactly what we wanted to sealers to get for that inside linebacker spot so i'm excited about him I don't think he'll be you know a big time player in his first year But i think he is. He is the future to go along with devon bush and it's very exciting tandem. Those to the idea of those two right now As dan moore gotta agree with like agree with that would like dan moore. Is this guy. That's got wonderful traits. That you like. He's got a temper temperament that you want. But they're stuffy needs to work on right so you're going to have to get him in coach him mop you know. Give him a shot. Yeah exactly if you just have the guys in the right scheme. I i think that's really all task for Before we continue on. Though i really. I really want to go back to step back here. just your genuine thoughts are you at all a fan of the pittsburgh penguins and hockey in general. Yeah i'm a much more casual fan crazy into stats and film with football hockey. I just like to watch a game now. Of course for everyone listening at this point that you probably already know. The penguins have been eliminated from the playoffs. So i do. I do apologize from the bottom of my canadian. Heart for that but Do you think this is a little snake bit and right now when it comes to to play offs because of course the steelers. They've only one. What three playoff games as past decade The penguins of course they won a couple cups but since then have struggled a bit in the playoffs. Do you think the city snake bit nerves. do you believe in curses. I wouldn't say it's a curse. I think you know the the really the truly special teams and the truly special players are kinda hard to come by Penguins got a little spoiled with lows. Four top three picks in four years there with a flurry bulkin crosby and jordan stall So we i think more than anything. we're kinda spoiled in pittsburgh With everything but baseball and it's just kind of normal like guys get older. The players it really fit with these guys are gone. And guy. Got stars trying to rebuild. You're trying to rebuild something that's that's fleeting you know it's it's constantly moving on and guys are constantly getting older. You know players aren't what they used to be latonya bulk and they're not the guys they used to be right. They can't do it all season so for me. this is. this is kind of what you get. This is what you get when guys start getting older. You know what we'll get back to back to football here. But i will say being a fan of the vancouver canucks say it could be a whole heck of a lot worse. You cannot be watching hockey at all. That seems to be The plate of my hockey team. But i guess the big news of the week of coarser were an organized team activities. Now basically There's a few storylines that are worth the following. Is there one that jumps off paper off the paper right now to you that you're most interested in watching over. The course of these are kind of a padded air quotes but padded practices. referee is. There's no receivers like your genes. Insure film of ben rothlisberger there. And he's thrown. Who's heathrow into. Oh it's another running back. It's another depth tight end. Like he's throwing luck he's throwing the ball downfield two guys wide receivers. It's cracking me up. It's just it's ota's it's it is what it is and i guess when you really don't have you know all your all your mind. Receivers were here last year. There's no rookie. So you know they. They could pretty much do what they want. They don't have to show up But i'm it's otas more than anything there on the field right for me. This is actually happening. We're getting news that the nfl is going to be at full capacity for the whole season. Like just it's absolutely phenomenal. And i absolutely love that. It's really back like football is really back we're going to have an actual offseason and that's huge to me for this season. It's huge because we can have a last year. We got a super chat here in the live. Chat from aa puts nineteen ninety nine in the tip jar. Thank you so much for that. That's a huge tip. He says for a long suffering cannot fan and his co host. Who has to list when we get off air. There's a lot of complaining so jeffrey deserves that. W if you if you have a question make sure to throw it in there I'll get to that as well I i guess kind of one of the story lines that i've kind of been watching Since the start of ota's nausea harris. He's getting a ton of coverage who when you look across really all the rookies in the nfl. Not sure there's one player that gets post post more than nausea harris. When you're looking across social media any form of media really he's kinda the the the the name everyone just been jumping towards. But what do you think of Nausea hairs nausea hair. Show is the preview of a player. That's about to go on a offensive rookie of the year type. Terror is this. Is this an exciting time. what's your vibe with nashi harrison. Ota's ninety harrison the star of the show he really is I mean ben roethlisberger's and is eight hundred season You know everyone's i guess the the luster off after last year of the offense like it's crazy to think that when when you know. We spent a lot of time as a as offense offensive scoring pretty good about a points. until we weren't. I should caveat that we worked for a while and then we weren't An offense it showed promise and then really fell apart. I guess the best way to put it. You know no one from that offense really good right now. No one's there. You're not sitting there looking at him saying that's the dude you know that's the do that we're excited to see this year is how that player develops no. It's all najji. it's all ninety harris like we've we've got to get back to the run game okay. Run game was just awful last year. worse i mean. We were thirty secular worse than it is. I like to tell people We were top ten through five weeks so so not only we were the worst. We were were bad enough. The worst that we dropped from top ten to the worst and at eleven games We we were there before the eleventh game before that last game two. It was bad so he is. He's the guy you know. He is what we're gonna watch it. If nauseous running then mission accomplished we ever run game. And that's the key. We've been looking at to get ben to play better. When does ben played better when we have a run game. When there's a threat pool in those those linebackers up into run defense. It will now now. He can throw those routes that he couldn't throw last year because linebackers were starting to. You know six seven yards off. The line of scrimmage is being like you can't run we're not we're coming up there. We don't care so i really think he is the biggest he might be the biggest draft pick fan expectation and excitement. Sense ben rothlisberger. I mean anyone else bigger than him in that time. I don't think anyone has been this exciting. And that time yen with najjar harris in. Here's kind of brief couple practices that we've got to see some clips i will say is the offensive skill player outside of harris that has looked kind of like jumped off the paper the most thus far is anthony mcfarland. Who like when you're watching some of these drills. He looks a really fast which is exactly the kind of change of pace back. I think you'd want to have when you have nausea harris In front of you. Are you expecting a bit of a step here. In twenty twenty one for anthony mcfarland especially being perhaps the rb two i he fits that like what you like you said i think he really fits the change of pace. You want for nausea harris matt canada's taken over the offense mcfarland when his one season at maryland He started off playing wingback. He was doing jet sweeps and he was the receiver he was. He was catching passes. Downfield steelers i mean the steelers through downfield pass to him on. What was it a fourth and one something like that through. It was like a wheel yards. Yeah and they throw downfield to. He's going to see that like if he's the number two running back he's going to get action and this offense he will get some some place he will get some stuff drawn up for him because if he has that speed he's a mismatch and now he's had a year in the nfl last year. I can't even imagine trying to transition. From you. know the end of the season. He had where he was banged. Up at the end of the season mcfarland of his college season any goes in to the pros. And there's not as there's no training at the facility you're on your own you got like your rookie signing bonus but that's it that's the only money you've gotten like is going to be hard for those guys especially in a new town you've gotta find people to train with you. Got find stuff to do to have the whole season to be an pittsburgh. No the offense. Nobody's getting into and have an actual real season to train and prepare a think. This could be a very big season. France before i could see him having a pretty good job. I guess to play devil's advocate on that side. As long as mike tomlin is the head coach. I'm not going to suggest that the running back who's gonna get to me carries. It just goes kind of against his core beliefs really since john bell. Even james conner. If there's been a bell cow back they're getting the ball and they're going to get at a ton of. Would you agree with that or would you still say anthony. Mcfarland should take off this year. I think you're gonna see a little bit of a difference because what you saw with like levy on bell wise when they put in the angela williams you had to change your run blocking. You don't wanna do that in the middle of the series. You really wanna do that like okay. This game this series. We're going to run block differently and the next year is we're going to run block for this other guy and we're going to switch back. That's that's rough to do an offensive line. So we saw mostly like levy on and angela williams both have good numbers but it was because that would miss some games and then the offense would change like they change how they blocked With with connor. These other guys are too similar. Like benny styling. James conner are too close together for me. Harris if mcfarland is making place. He's going to keep getting the ball. He's going to get chances if he is not gaining yards if he is not making the most of his chances then you're not going to write. It's like last season. Benny snow when he comes in as a change of pace guy as a backup dwelling games where he only carried the ball like ten times or less. His average was under two yards per carry when carried it more than fifteen times it was. It was pretty good. You know for for better offense was it was. It was pretty good. It was up there with james conner numbers. So he wasn't that guy. They tried to let farley be that guy that didn't work out in your one We'll see your to i. But i think it all depends on the value. You're getting from him if he's gaining yards if he's baking place he's going to get a chance to play. We saw the same thing In twenty nine hundred and carrots white would come in and when it was benny snell white white would get carries. Because he was bright he had the speed and benny snell did not so it worked and they would they would use both of them so i i think he's got a good chance to get to get some decent carries while nauseous plane. You mentioned benny snell. Of course the way this kind of running back. Rooms kind of shaping up It seems like he'll probably be the defendant of third back. Do you think a chance. He doesn't make this team or is Is this is this. The end of the line for benny snell or are they going to keep them around. Just to be a depth piece. I think benny snell is pretty much alaka. Partly because we're going to be running a lot of inside zone even outside zone. Benny snell is zanny cells zone runner so i think he will fit with matt. Canada's run style. A little better than he did of with what we run under any feet ner. 'cause james conner james conner and benny snell had different kinds of reads it. None of the offense fit really really fit. What either of them did well. So i think i think now fits better. What matt candidate does so he would be. Kind of the re- dodgy replacement like if nause's missing a game or they wanna limit carries. Then it's time for you know good old. Benny snell football benny snell. Benny no jets as one former host used to say all the time but anyway When it comes. I'm gonna put you on the spot for a second year because we didn't discuss this but in the spirit of a surprise cut. Would you say there's anyone on this team that you could point and be like. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy didn't make the team after training camp and some of that could potentially could potentially either be playing a decent amount or could be on the chopping block. Is there one name that pops out to you as a potential kite. Yeah as much as i just thought. I think he's lock. It would be benny snell. Anyone if anyone's going. That's who i would expect to be the one to go But in my mind that would take some serious serious game from jalen samuels kaelin ballads. Really stepping up in kind of taken that job from him. And then he's expendable. I think if i'd give you a name. Just because how many defensive lineman the steelers of added. Maybe chris warmly. Of course he got that to deal but a draft is allowed or milk. Who knows what the guys behind him. it it seemed like he got that deals more specifically because tyson al din originally get one from the steelers. That's why i kind of saw them going right back warmly. But it'll be interesting. i. I'm not really banking on too many surprise cuts but like you said snell could be one or perhaps if some crazy free agent that we weren't expecting to come down the pipeline. I suppose if that were to happen Than they might they might be in the mood to move off of someone to bring someone else in but with those moves it a wait-and-see thing one of the bigger storylines though here in training camp. Ota's rather tease me Ben rothlisberger showing up and going through all these reps. You think this is a big deal should chewy. Make something of this. Typically something ben roethlisberger would be showing up to. yeah. I think he saw last year. How he didn't have you know chemistry with his receivers. he didn't have that developed. he could skip. T. as come back and throw the ball antonio brown like it didn't matter antonio brown and ben rothlisberger for several years. they're probably could've skipped. Most of training camp showed up one and torch teams And then all of a sudden he's gone if got diontae johnson James washington and chase claypool. Ben hasn't thrown much to either any of those guys before last season much at all and there's growing pains there and there's drops and there's issues with the game so i think you're seeing ben rothlisberger realize what i have the opportunity now to have this offseason and he's kind of seeing the value of it last year when they didn't have it and how much it costs him the other quarterback in camp right now. That is drawing a lot of attention. Of course they're all they're currently at. Ta's but dwayne haskins his first time wearing black and gold practice stepping on the field. What are your thoughts on him like. Have you seen any hopes to him. Throwing the ball or are you excited about. This guy could could he. Could you actually have something here. I am not going to be excited about about any quarterback during during like drills like if you if you can't throw a ball down the field to a receiver who's not covered and who's just running like if you can't do that then then you shouldn't be in the nfl I mean different higest. Do that fine. Paxton lynch looked good when he didn't have defenders on field so so. I'm not gonna get excited about quarterbacks till preseason. I'm incredibly excited that we have we have still have four preseason games. We got that extra game in a season where we have a dwayne haskins. 'cause he's gonna get some serious time And i always hated because at the end of the games that used to be the steelers at the end of the at the end of the preseason game you get landry jones in there and it'd be like well we going to say. Oh you know you get excited like oh maybe one of these death wide receivers is going to be something and didn't have enough a chance to catch the ball because landry jones was terrible and then we now have legit guys can at least in preseason they can be like dominate the fourth quarter of a preseason game dwayne haskins and mason rudolph they both have wins as starters in the nfl either plaited the fourth quarter of a preseason game. They should be lightened. People up excited for that. That's going to be fun. It will be on. I agree it's going to be one of those battles. I think you're going to be really fun to watch throughout training camp when it comes to position battle. so what. What are you most excited for. A move through this offseason process and get through many camps and Eventually training camp. What's what are the most exciting training camp position battles cornerback. I'm very excited. I talk him up all time. But james pier i really. I really wanna see what he can bring in a second season because his film from his first season was incredible and you know obviously. Nfl offenses will get to see what he did. Maybe figure out where his weaknesses are. Maybe it was a little bit of you know. We'll test this guy but we don't really know what he's good at what he isn't so we'll just kind of avoid him but he looked good. I want wanna see him play on see how that plays out and those contests because that's actually for playing time to Dan moore is a big one. I'm watching 'cause man. I want to see him play because tooks a core four year. Know what you're getting in the run game with jukes right. He's he's a he's a decent kind of outside zone blocker. And that's about it you know. He's he's he's passable kelvin beecham. You know you're going to get what you get from him. It's not terrible but it's not the guy you want. Run blocking out there at tackle. So dan more puts a lot of hope in the same if he is a tackle and he is a guy that can actually you know either. Be the swing tackle this year on the takeover next year or even come in at some point in the season in kinda take that job. Dan warriors is a big one kendrick green to i. I think he's gonna win that. But that is an actual battle and bj any so that's another one on half power but i'm kidding i see a lot of people live chat the the circus's laugh. I love that I see a lot of people in the live. Chat bringing the punter if firstly harvard. Third doesn't win that job. I would be befuddled. Goodness me Outside of that. I think i'm excited to see how the wide receivers can jimmy themselves In terms of what position they will play within the receiving core. I think there's a lot of reasonably that's still up for grabs. What spot each guy will play Just based on the way some the receivers talking so that will be something. I'm excited watching outside of that. There really isn't too many position battles. Of course it you got. I guess that third quarterback slot. Whether or not dwayne haskins to some of the steelers risk on the practice squad. Or what have you so. I guess that's kind of interesting to watch but it really isn't too too much other than what you've already expressed. I guess to move on for possibly the last question of the show here. I'm thinking more specifically about the second year players. They're kind of getting a little bit of love here. S especially today on social media. Those being chase claypool alex highsmith who came into in in a camp jack out of his mind at a story run on the website today with the alex smith putting onto mass kevin dawson who also looks shredded for guard. He looks ready to take over the starting duties. And then of course. Anthony mcfarland like we talked about earlier Who looks impressively fast cabinet as well as some other guys. What carlos davis brian ethnic davis's Safety that i can't remember black. Doorway no no from the year before from junior. Anthony brooks junior antoine. ross junior. We got there we did it. I'm proud of us good for us. Which second year player is going to take the biggest step in two thousand nine hundred twenty one. It took to get there but we got to the question of the biggest step. Yeah ooh because chase claypool is going is going to be phenomenal He he ten eleven touchdowns last season including rushing. Yeah like eleven. that's that's like it's hard to take a step up from that. Like it's legitimately difficult to take a significant step up from a from a double digit touchdown season I'm gonna go with alex moments. Does he is. He is definitely stepping up. And he's gonna he's gonna produce over there. He's going to be productive player. I would agree with that. You're not getting sexy. Stats out of a guard. Even though i think dawson will be on dawson. Feast like you said. With claypool like a touchdown wise it would be really a challenge for him to improve on what he did. I think yardage reception wise. I think he'll take step. But alex smith is do. He's gonna play a ton and obviously he's in better shape that he wasn't bad shape last year but i think he'll be better against the run We know he's to let me pass rush move. I think he could also take a pretty substantial step forward in twenty twenty one but as we approach the top of the hour. here jeffries or anything you want to plug before we sign off actually can i can i. Can i divert the show. And you mentioned the wide receivers and positioning. I want to throw this out really quickly here. they're talking about juju smith schuster playing on the outside more and what immediately triggered to me was watching candidate system in his offense they he uses a tight ends running backs wingbacks fullbacks and smaller faster slot receivers like a guy like pit quadri hundred henderson in that slot receive a role which is very different than what the steelers started doing under todd haley Where the z receiver. Kind of with richard. Manuel zero receiver becomes the slot slides into the slot. And there's a guy goes outside of him like a james washington. Mark davis bryant would go outside of juju even when randy fichtner took over. That's gone that's not going to be how the wide receivers work in mac canada's offense as you're probably going to see juju running the z and that not turn into the slot that's guy staying out there So that's going to be very interesting change to this. Offense is the johnson in the slot. How how is that gonna work out. I'm a big big fan of chase claypool being the ex receiver I you know we used. We used to use antonio brown there I think chase claypool was at his best in that spot and kind of diontae johnson in the slot moving around a bit more So it'll be interesting to see what they do. But i did want. I did want to bring that up because it is a different way. These wide receivers are going to be used and it is going to be interesting when they actually do show up for mandatory minicamps to watch how they line up what they're doing. What kind of routes they're running Because this is a different offensive is going to use those wide receivers and a little bit different ways. That's just great stuff outside of that though anything you wanna put back to. you know. Just dropped David i just dropped a vertex on the inside linebackers. Last week we did. You know. Comparing avery williamson at the end of the season with a devon bush wasn't the most fair comparison to make for poor avery williamson. He wasn't that bad. But you know he's not having bush This week we're talking about the guys. We talked about the guys across from devon bush. Robert splaine vince williams. Comparing them what they bring a check that out. It's always good and i'm working on. I'm doing some pieces on canada's offense for alphonsus from college where i'm just taking a single play and breaking down what he does. I've got another one coming this week on a win. I've actually got to do it. Maybe early next week. It goes and we will love it when that content gets here aside from that. I just want to remind people to click over to behind the curtain dot com of course. Ota's who were compiling a mega list of all the stuff that's dropping every single day so make sure you're clicking order behind the curtain dot com for and getting that roundup outside of last thing i want to remind people of make sure you're checking out the the secondary am shows. You can find those wherever you get your classic podcasts from apple podcasts or spotify pandora what have you We are running a contest where there is an article on behind the steel curtain dot com explaining all the rules but basically you are waiting for a secret code Plays and you have to listen to every single. Am show from monday to friday this week. That's the three Let's rides the monday wednesday friday version. My live mike. From tuesday and dave scofield's stack which of course drops on thursday. So make sure your chicken those out and getting that secret code Winsome sweet free merged from breaking teas and behind the steel curtain. So make sure your law. You're you're locked in for all of that and get yourself some sweet steelers stuff which we all know. We need more of being steeler fans but with all that being said. My name is michael. Back in for my co host jeffrey benedict. Thank you for tuning. We'll see guys next time.

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Let's Ride: Never underestimate a team with their backs against the wall

Behind the Steel Curtain

33:32 min | 7 months ago

Let's Ride: Never underestimate a team with their backs against the wall

"Introducing built to last a new podcast by american express. I'm elaine well trough. And i'm excited to host debut season where we will be deep diving into the stories history and continued legacy of small businesses. That shape american culture through these important conversations will hear how the black business leaders are. Pass have inspired. Today's black owned small businesses and communities. Join us for the debut season of built to last on spotify apple youtube. Or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome to another episode of. Let's ride. i'm jeff. Hartmann your host of this monday wednesday friday morning podcasts. I hope that your week is off to a tremendous start. And i hope that you had a really really awesome thanksgiving in thanksgiving holiday. If you are in the united states of america this crazy up north. Like michael beck of the live mike. On every tuesday morning he celebrates giving and i think. I think it's october i dunno. Those crazy conducts. They do whatever they want. that's fine. They got their thing. We've got our thing nonetheless. Everyone i hope had a great holiday whether you're with family or with not Without i should say. I hope it was good. I had a great thanksgiving. I really was hoping. I was going to get to see the pittsburgh steelers. Play the baltimore. Ravens on thanksgiving night With my dad. And my brother to people that i really don't get to watch steeler games with anymore but unfortunately covid nineteen at different plans as the corona virus continues to ravage the baltimore ravens lineup. And i say lineup. I used to be well. Their offense or their defensive line. It is literally their entire lineup. The latest name as of sunday afternoon evening was willie snead wide receiver. Who always seems to give the steelers fits by the way he was the late at the latest name. I think they are up to twenty two or twenty three players twenty two or twenty three players that are now on the reserve covid nineteen list. It's incredible it is incredible. I asked people in our slack channel. Which that's the staff at behind the steel curtain dot com. And i said you think this is worse than the titan situation and we all said yeah because the titans situation was bad and and they were going out and having individual practices at a private school nearby and seven ads. There's a bad look but holy cow. Has this thing just gone through the ravens lineup. From top to bottom like we. We've never seen you think about the titans like derrick. Henry didn't has positive ryan. Tannehill didn't test positive near the big name players now compiler they didn't test positive it went through in it. They had a lot of positive tests coaches and all that stuff. Hold that my. Gosh i mean you name a significant player on the baltimore. Ravens team period. Maybe outside of just talker the kicker in they've tested positive period and i gotta be honest. I am sick and tired of talking about this. I'm sick of writing articles about it. I'm sick of the speculation and let's be honest as of this being recorded. Which is sunday night. The pittsburgh steelers and the ravens are still playing at heinz field on tuesday night. Could that change. I guess i guess it could. I don't know. I think i've predicted this game. Four times now nathen three but still. I still feel like this is. This is one of the story. Lines it just. It's it's just seems like it's never gonna stop but the one thing that the nfl is gonna. I mean. I guess if we're looking at. The denver. broncos situation is kind of a lead example here. The denver broncos in case. You didn't know. Jeff driscoll backup quarterback drew lock who actually played against pittsburgh and we to in heinz field. He gets t test positive for covid. Nineteen and at the at that time. They told the the broncos. They're fine everyone else's good to go shouldn't be an issue then all of a sudden on saturday. They say that because they found out that the quarterbacks in the team room or the meetings they didn't wear face masks and because of that they were considered high risk contacts therefore none of their quarterbacks were able to allow the play none of them not one so they had to bring up a practice squad wide receiver. Who used to be a quarterback at wake forest to play in a spot start. That didn't pan out too well as you could imagine but still if they made the denver broncos play they could have easily said all right guys. We're gonna bumper game back on monday and the saints can stay in town and though they'll be fine and we're gonna bumper game back to monday by monday. We'll get chili's one quarterback we're gonna do some loose work now. They said you're playing their singer playing. The denver broncos tried to get an assistant coach. Who used to be a college quarterback they said. Can we get him in the lineup. And the nfl said. Now you gotta play figure it out. So when i hear that when i hear that story i think to myself. There's no way they can bump this game back so dave. Scofield kudos to him and jeffrey benedict all behind the curtain dot com and on our podcast platform. Jeffrey benedict of know your enemy podcasts. With michael back andy. Scofield of the stat geek. In the steelers preview in the scarborough show they did. Some works at. Dave looked it up. He went through their entire roster and all the players tested positive. And i believe that they're down to maybe forty nine players on their overall roster. So jeffrey benedict said that the collective bargaining agreement says that you have to forty four players to play a game. If it's less than forty four matvey say forty. Three the collective the players association would have to sign off on them being able to play so what i hear unless in in the nfl by the way the nfl came out and said they think this is the tail end of it pretty much done. Willie snead was delone positive. They're basically saying we think this is it so that sounds to me like the. Nfl should be saying. Hey john harbaugh you got half your team on cove. Nineteen reserve list. Good luck. we'll see at heinz field against the tenant steelers. That's the way i feel like. It should go but at the same time. It all depends. It all depends because the virus could more players could test positive if it does test positive. The nfl said that. If that's the case they feel that it is a community spread in not from the assistant coach and strengthening conditioning coach. That was very reckless with what he did. Or should i say did not do within the organization but the one thing so again. I hope that there's a game on tuesday. And i know a lot of steeler fans or just really like yeah. Let's play because the steelers had their covert situation to kevin dotson still on the covid reserve list. I don't know if the steelers are just keeping him there. I doubt that he's still showing symptoms or he just won't test negative. That can all be possible but stefan to put on the list. Isaiah bugs got put on list in. Gerald hawkins got put on the list. Danny smith the special teams coordinator. He's can't coach because he tested positive. Soda quarterbacks coach matt canada. But mike tomlin spoke to the media on sunday because they were having friday type practice as they were about forty eight hours out of game and they were out of the game any basis. We have no new positives in other words. The protocol that's been set forth by the national football league wert everything was virtual that candidate test positive. He's not physically in a room. With ben rothlisberger he's not a room with mason rudolph. Devlin hodges joshua does it matter. And that's why none of them are either considered high risk contacts or tested positive cells. The protocols work when they're followed folks. It doesn't mean that people aren't going to test positive. They're going to test positive. You just have to hope that. It's not a quarterback on your team. That's you know hoping to make the playoffs. But there's a lot of fans right now as they see vegas line go from. I think the steelers were about four point favorites. Four and a half. Maybe in some they've jumped to like. I think it's ten point favorites now. I think there are ten point favorites and a lot of fans thing. And i hope they play. Just because it's going to be an easy. W for the steelers and easy. W and i get that sentiment i really do. But the headline of this episode was chosen for a reason. Never underestimate a team with their backs against the wall now. Was this headline specifically chosen. So that the fan base might i dunno bring their expectations back down to reality a little bit possibly. Do i believe everything that i'm about to say nonetheless. I want to remind you about a game a game that both brian anthony davis and dave scofield attended not together. They didn't know they were in the same stadium together but they were both there going to magically whisk you away to december twenty seventh two thousand fifteen a game where the nine in five i believe nine five pittsburgh steelers when into play the four and ten baltimore ravens at mt bank stadium in baltimore maryland. Wanna read you jamison. Hensley hensley of espn when read you this breakdown. Okay just a few paragraphs bear with me. Here in quote ryan mallett debut with the baltimore. Ravens provider bright spot in an otherwise gloomy season looking decisive in clutch. Now it led an undermanned ravens offense by throwing for a career. High two hundred and seventy four yards and one touchdown in a twenty seventeen upset of the afc north rival. Pittsburgh steelers on sunday. It was it was thirty yards more than he's had in his previous any previous starting at allow the ravens to turn back a steelers team looking to make a playoff push now. It didn't look like a quarterback who was signed twelve days ago completing all four of his third down. Pass on the opening. Drive including eight yard touchdown to chris matthews. He also didn't look like a quarterback who was out of the league for two months connecting on passes of thirty nine and thirty four yards on baltimore's final touchdown drive in the fourth. Quarter the ravens. Four starting quarterback in their past six games now at finished twenty eight of forty. One passing and outplayed. Ben roethlisberger threw for two hundred and fifteen yards in two interceptions. I don't know about you. But i remember that game. I remember that game two days after christmas. I was back in my hometown of wheeling west virginia families over and i'm watching the game. I'm furious. i am furious. I'm talking if i could. Somehow the remember the cartoons were steam coming out of their ears. Their faces read. That's that's what i was like in. Remember going on the post game show with lance williams just saying i can't believe this happened. I can't believe this is happening. The ravens are on their fourth quarterback the fourth quarterback so the planet is now while everything under god's green and everything on god's green earth underneath the sky the stars the moon. you name. It says that the steelers should absolutely route the ravens. On tuesday night there should be some hesitation folks because not only mike tomlin was asked about this when he spoke with the media on sunday. What does it was it like game planning for a team that you have no idea what they're gonna do. He's basically what we're doing is we're game planning for philosophy. What do they like to do. What did they like to do in certain situations what today like to do in defensively and offensively on third downs etc etc. What that what that turns into have no clue what to expect. Robert griffin the third. Beat the steelers last season in week. Seventeen really didn't mean much. The steelers they were hanging onto a hope and a prayer to get into the playoffs but they had to win the game to do it and they failed to do it in. You was running the football. It was gus edwards. Why because marking room was out because they were arresting him. Lamar jackson wasn't playing because he was being arrested. The rate is already locked up a by. I think the top seed in the nfl playoffs afc side. They were fine pittsburgh on the other hand now. Granted they didn't have been rothlisberger but they still had that defense in day. God gashed so guess. Who's going to be quarterbacking. The ravens on tuesday night but robert griffin the third. Guess he's going to be running. The ball. Gus edwards injustice hill. If you don't think for a second. And i know you know there's no marshall janda ronnie staley's hurt and they've got other injuries and they've got covid nineteen guys. Look these players that they are going to get whether their death pieces whether they're being promoted from the practice squad whether they're being signed off the street they are seeing one thing and one thing only in opportunity. Mike tomlin says it all the time. A one man's injuries and opportunity for another. They are seeing an opportunity to put something on tape. Something on tape. That could possibly get them back in the league with baltimore. Maybe it's an offensive tackle that absolutely shuts down duprey. Bud dupree doesn't even come close to sniffing the quarterback. I think that's going to happen. Probably not but still. Let's say there is that situation. It's a tuesday night game. This is a primetime game. Nbc if there's another coach sitting on his couch and he's looking at as we could really use some offensive line help and all of a sudden. This left tackle bo. Who's this guy. He has an opportunity. What if it's justice hill. Who might be looking at the running back situation in baltimore saying. Am i ever going to get a chance. I ever going to get a shot. Well if he goes out and plays great great and he's such a versatile back and catch the ball. The backfield good runner change of pace guy. The steelers liked him. La coming out of oklahoma state but if he goes out and shows out he's got to find an opportunity somewhere else. I hope people understand that these players are going to be playing with a desperation and me. That's scary. that is scary table story. Last summer there was a family of groundhogs. We have this big giant gazebo. My backyard didn't build. It was there when we moved in. And these groundhogs must have moved in underneath a gazebo when the house is vacant. So clearly there in and out. They're not around our place too much because our kids are always back there. I'm always back they're grilling etc next door neighbors. We have two dogs but dogs in the backyard. Our next door neighbors their dogs are always in the back yard and they would always try to get these groundhogs and we didn't see the groundhog for awhile came back. Guess what had babies holy cow. So the groundhog. They're trying to get through the next door neighbor's to try to get food. Which is a garden down the street. The dog next door got the baby's real quick killed him. Took care of it. Okay so. I'm thinking sweet i don't have to call the exterminator. If you're a part of the pita i apologize. This is human nature is animal animal instinct. This is not me killing anything. Okay just clear. so then. The mother the mother groundhog. She's obviously still looking for food. Has no babies left and she gets cornered by these dogs next door and she's her. Her back is literally against this rockwall in the dogs. Ryan this this little this little groundhog that little gets up on a tined. Legs start showing. Its buck teeth. In these barreling. We call his claws or something and it's going after the dogs. It's going after the dogs. In all of a sudden dogs are thinking way to say what we get ourselves into and the groundhog is taken it to the dogs. My next door neighbor. Who's a hunter had to come out his bow and he had to take care of the groundhog. Why 'cause it was going to hurt. His dogs does bring it full circle. Here that's the baltimore ravens in this situation. They've heard every single thing that has been said about them in pittsburgh nationally and outside of the l. Moving this a week eighteen. They create or forcing them to forfeit or them to forfeit. They are gonna play like that groundhog with the dogs in his face doesn't mean they're going to win but they are going to play like they have nothing to lose. If i'm gonna go down. Go down swinging i'm gonna go down in a blaze of glory to quote bon. Jovi a big bon jovi fan grownup so with all this stuff. That's taken place in the last time. I talked to you on friday morning. Do i still think the steelers are gonna win. I still think that's correct scored. Well we will find out after this break of an answer. Some questions from twitter. Some fine folks on the twitter machine semi semesters. We're going to do that. And then obviously get my picks at the various stages. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps retailers. Manage supply chains with watson. I while predicting demands with ease. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud all right pittsburgh steelers fans. Welcome back to the second segment here. Let's ride monday. Podcast earing love hopefully for a steelers versus ravens. Tuesday night football game folks. I can't stress it enough me personally. I have to record this sunday night for a monday morning. Okay now normally on a sunday when there's a game on sundays. I don't record my podcast on monday morning because it doesn't run till noon however this is going to run at five. Am monday morning. So if at ten o'clock at night and sadly news has broken in the national football league at times ten o'clock if they change this game if they cancelled it if they force the ravens forfeit. I apologize then. I apologized but have to be prepared in plus right after. I'm done with this podcast undoing. Podcast at night. With dave and brian. Anthony davis live on. Youtube will have noon tomorrow on monday. so i want you to know that if this seems outdated. It's my apologies. You have to understand why so. I went onto twitter. Today is the middle of the one o'clock games that's an i should do. A mailbag segment. I haven't done one of those in wiles. Probably been about a month. I just throw it out there. Hey yovany dealers questioned no-holds-barred fire away had a lot of good responses. Okay so i'm going to try to get too many as i can hear and we're gonna finish this show up with my updated game pick. Is it the same or different. We'll see i nat mccoy. I'm hope i pronounce that correctly. I apologize if i didn't. He said his. Benny referring to benny snell a number one running back. Now i'm gonna reference mike tomlin here. Mike tomlin said on sunday when he spoke with the media. He has no reservation about benny snell being quote unquote feature back now. I wouldn't expect a coach anything else. Do i personally think so i do. I think that. Benny snell is a running back that if he's going to be effective he has to be the guy in other words. He's not a running back. That's going to be able to just go in play a series. Maybe make splash player to and then come out aids. He's just not that type of guy he's a back in. He saw this when he was in kentucky. You had to get him going. Look back to that week. Seventeen game last season. He looks really good. Think back to earlier this season he actually sue. Showed some bounce some hob some lateral quickness. Something we never saw his rookie year. I'm actually looking forward to seeing both. Benny snell and anthony mcfarland on sun on tuesday wednesday sunday on tuesday. I think the. Benny snell approved a lot of people wrong. As comes to this now next question from alexa she says what is the smell. Mcfarland split going to be a great question. I would say it's probably seventy thirty smelled mcfarland. They're going to like. I said they're gonna wanna get snell going. I dated a sprinkle mcfarland and here there. I would love anthony mcfarland to go the way of the wealthy more if he can become a good pass protector. If he can become a guy that is reliable with reading the pass rush in really stepping up and protecting the quarterback he would be the perfect third down running back. 'cause he can catch the ball of the backfield. He's a good screen player. Good with good withdraws if he has a hole and he has breakaway speed. I still think that it's going to be primarily. Benny snell benny snell Is definitely going to be the the seventy percent of macfarlane's thirty percent of those a good question boettger says. How long do you think ben has left. He's referring to obviously ben rothlisberger. Do you think he signs a one year extension okay. so ross. perot's the rest of the season and next season twenty twenty one season under his current contract. I'm going to be completely honest with you here. I think the ben rothlisberger is going to sign an extension. This offseason. i think he's going to sign a two year extension so that would put him in pittsburgh black and gold for not just twenty twenty one but twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. I think that he has shown enough with the steelers this year that his arm is healthy that he still is. He's he's in the best shape maybe of his life. I mean even in two thousand and four is a rookie. He wasn't in this type of shape. He is decisive. The offense looks so good with him. A quarterback in plus. I think that if you can get ben to sign another extent another extension you can decrease the cap hit and twenty twenty one which is going to be important beacon also sign a garlic juju smith schuster knowing the dens going to be back so if you signed juju to a three year deal then juju smith schuster knows that for the duration of his contract then ross burgers under contract as well and that's important that's important so i do think this is going to try. Will they get it done. A lot of it depends on rothlisberger himself if he says you know what. I'm kind of done. You know especially if the steelers were to win at all. Could you walk away. Absolutely could walk away so you just don't know but i think the steelers would be really smart to try all right next question from jc kaufman. He says more likely to explode for a one hundred yard game. Eric ebron or james washington alternatively if we're doing any question or the browns of mirage or are they serious threat to the steelers solicit two-parter. Let's get the first part. I who's more likely to explode for a hundred game ebron or washington. I guess i'm going to go. James washington because i feel like he is a more of a big play threat in regards to the one hundred yard game that you mentioned however i think the eric ebron is more of a threat period. Meaning i think. Eric ebron is gonna play more snaps. I think eric ebron is going to be more of a red zone option. He's obviously scored. I think he has five touchdowns this season. I don't think that eric ebron is gonna be the guy unless he can really break free to get to get you one hundred fifteen yards receiving in a game if it happens. It's going to be once a season. Maybe in this specific offense james washington is going to have more opportunities for a big place and maybe think about think about a deep pass down the field or down the scene that he catches in runs in the end zone. That's sixty five yard in any picks up a couple more catches after that. I team easily going over the century mark but i would say that the the more likely is washed now he also asked about the cleveland. Browns cleveland browns were able to win down in jackson. It wasn't pretty. It wasn't pretty at all the one thing that i've always thought that the browns can kind of hang their hat on defense in. I'm sorry mike glennon kind of carbon them up today If the the jacksonville jaguars could stop the run. Even a little bit. They probably wouldn't that football game. They probably win that game. But i think the cleveland browns have lots of prove that was a trap game for him down there. We'll see other. Have some tough games coming up still so there's a lot to be told about the browns but hey they're winning games. They should can't fault them for that. Absolutely not next question from just are he says. Do you think the youth of our receive. Air group will negatively impact the playoff run. It's an interesting question. Do i think that the youth of the receivers is going to be a negative when it comes to the planet. Well i think it depends on how you view experience in terms of being an asset. If you're someone that's been there done. That is the most important thing in the playoffs. Then yeah it's going to be a negative because none of them. Other than juju. Smith schuster have been there and done that so when when it comes to that question i don't view it as a negative. I i look at it from the context of the offense. How do they run the specific offense. Can they work with ben rothlisberger. That's all that's all in my opinion needs to be worried about. This isn't a situation. I don't feel where it's the situations too big for them. You know if if that were the case maybe you look add chase claypool fumble against baltimore week eight yet. Maybe it's a situation pain. I didn't realize it was this magnitude. You know you played a big as notre dame but this is different so i don't eat any of these players. The situation is too big for them. Maybe there's a drop or two. But i'm not too concerned about that good question. Thank you for that. Leo alana or elaine. I'm sorry alana. I'm gonna go guests. Says what is the percentage probability that we end up sixteen to now now. I could look up the fbi. Nine point eight percent chance It's around there is less than ten percent that the steelers run the table. But to be honest with you. The steelers are going to be favored in almost every game for the rest of the way. I mean when you think about games that they have coming up that are going to be really really tough and vegas might say that. They're not favored while you think about indianapolis but that's at heinz field. I don't think the steelers that the indianapolis colts 'cause they lost today against the tennessee. Titans I don't think that the colts would be favored. Maybe the browns and week seventeen depending on the situation of the steelers of locked up a first round bye or they've locked up everything that they could. Let's say that they're they've already locked up the north bud. They can't get a by or whatever the case may be the. Maybe the browns would be favored in cleveland in week. Seventeen but ultimately. I don't think i. i don't think that there's going to be a game where they're not favored. Take that for what it's worth. I don't think this seals go sixteen and l. But at the same time if they did i would be shocked. Absolutely all right next. Question wavering williamson have. His first splash played for pittsburgh on tuesday. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no because as much as i as much as i want them to play avery williamson more in. Maybe they will now. They've had this little mini break in. Everyone's complaining about the steelers. Losing their many break. They got they got their mini-break. They got their many break. They had three straight days off from practice for. They had meetings and stuff like that. But that wasn't anything physical that they were fine. They got many break. Okay so people need to calm down about that. I but it seemed like it's roberts blaine events williams until they prove that they can't do the job we know. They're not going to get rid of vince williams. Anytime soon and roberts d'alene is is playing good football within his expectations. Meaning i don't expect roberts selena do devon bush stuff so avery williamson. I'd love to see him on the field more. Maybe it'll be willie. Mays for splash play. I still don't think it's also think it's here yet. Okay last question here from paul. He said who's the most valuable ofensive piece. Besides ben rothlisberger love from germany. Paul thanks for the question. All the way from across the pond over there in germany. I appreciated the most. Valuable offense apiece besides ben rothlisberger. This is kind of when you can look into war. Moore's is statistic that is popular in baseball. It's wins above replacement. And i think that if i'm if i'm gonna exclude ben rothlisberger i have to thank you. I'm thinking about all the pieces of the puzzle above their replacement so how what is the biggest differential above the replacement. Let's look at ben. I know he's. I can't say that i get it ben rothlisberger. He's won ten games already in last season. Dell and hodges and mason rudolph one eight so you think about wins above replacement well. He's already to on the war. Charter would more. I'm gonna say marquees pouncey. I'm gonna say markeith pouncey why because who's replacement. Jc has our. That's it remember. They got rid of stefen wisnewski. Stefen wisnewski was supposed to be the guy that they could turn to and say. Hey bays wiz pounds. He's hurt. We need you to jump in their beer center for a few weeks so he gets back. They got rid of him. They got rid of caught him. They got him off of injured reserve. He eat aristo to banged up for him. I don't know what the case was is. Jc has an hour. I'm sorry but having is huge. Think about if you were to lose. Say david decastro. Well once kevin dodson comes off the cova. He's proven to be a good enough. He can cover both left guard and right guard. I think the gerald hawkins to spell alejandro villanueva order. Tooks corfe on the right side attack. Was well derwin grays on the team. So they have options there. Wide receiver their deepest can be running back deep tight end. Yes a little thin but it's not going to say that's the most important player. I'm gonna marquees penalty. There's your answer. Thank you very much paul. We appreciate you all the way listening. All the way from germany pretty awesome. So let's finish this up with is my thirty. Three to twenty four steelers over ravens prediction still the prediction. And i'm going to go with nell. I'm gonna go with now. I'm gonna change it up in those that say we can't change it. Be quiet i can change it because everything about this. Stupid game has changed fifteen thousand times. So i'm gonna go with thinking about this on the flyer folks. This is live. We're alive with dick pic. Louis pittsburgh steelers to hang thirty on baltimore. Baltimore is gonna score Say seventeen thirty to seventeen steelers win. So that's a slight change in the thirty. Three to twenty four. Take a fuel office dealers and take a touchdown away from baltimore adding that i think that's about right so there you have it folks. I really hope this is the last time we have to talk about this game. I really hope that on wednesday. I'm not sitting here saying i can't believe the. Nfl created a week eighteen. And they move this game there. And we're gonna have to talk about this again. I really hope. That's what. That's not the case i really do. But in the meantime folks fingers crossed. Tuesday night. That the pittsburgh steelers play and i will be back with brian. Anthony davis and davis goldfield on that podcast post game. Podcast hopefully talking about a steelers win and moving to eleven. Oh and then having a quick turnaround before the washington. Football team comes to pittsburgh. So we'll see what happens. Gosh i hope they play. I hope they plan. I know you do to in the Makes you. What is your podcast. Make sure behind the steel curtain. Dot com is your one-stop shop for all things steelers. I'm jeff hartman. Co editor of said website. In the meantime folks is always be kind. Be safe in. God bless go steelers here. We go our area.

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New Waiver Wire Order, Ravens-Steelers Recap (12/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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New Waiver Wire Order, Ravens-Steelers Recap (12/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Recapping the pittsburgh baltimore game giving an update on the waiver. Wire if you still have time to make some changes this is fantasy football today and five. Let's get started. Dave richardneer good evening hearing this night. We're going to publish this a little bit early. Just in case you still have time to change your waiver. Wire or dave no pleasantries. I'm sure you're doing great. Let's talk about pittsburgh and baltimore here. what we were takeaways from five point win by this teams was not a five star game really frustrating rating. How slow it took the steelers or how slow the steelers were to get going and so many drops in the game for crying out loud. I've got claypool ebron with to juju. with one. uncharacteristic rothlisberger should have had a bigger game. Benny snell was okay. I guess ninety three total yards. I think it's just okay and then for the ravens. Look they were shorthanded. Begin with rg. Three got hurt trace. Mcsorley came in. Who knew it would take trace mcsorley to get marquees brown going on the deep ball. That was a crazy play. I wouldn't count on that. I don't think you can get anything out of the ravens side of this Did like the effort from their defense. Steelers should bounce back and play bigger against washington in week. Thirteen all right so we're publishing this early because we want people to have a chance to make some changes to their waiver wire order if necessary here and maybe benny snell moves up or down. We don't know about james conner for next week. But snell has forty eight percent roster. He had almost all of the carries for the steelers. And markey's brown is seventy two percent roster. He had a pretty lucky catch. And run for a touchdown and how lucky was but not something. Reliant is david. let's get your new waiver. Wire order as josh jacobs missed practice a to a might be back this week. Which means that ryan fitzpatrick probably hands off. You shouldn't go after him if you do. Don't make them a high priority. If you are streaming the quarterback position i do think devante booker is worth prioritizing at this point. I know that there's talk. That josh jacobs should play optimistic. He didn't practice on wednesday. A this isn't a better safe than sorry. This is a risk thing. But i think that there is a chance that even if jacobs plays he won't be on a hundred percent and it's a great matchup against the jets. So booker is someone that. I go after i smell would be somebody that i go after although i would agree that if james conner is back next week snell's meaningless. Deebo samuel obviously should be somebody he's the safest guy go and pick up. If you can find him off the waiver wire and i think frank gore is probably the next best guy if you need a running back in week thirteen as a matter of fact if you need a running back and you don't want chance fab dollars or waiver priority on booker on snell because they could fall out not be the lead guy you know frank gore will be and should be at least decent as a number two fantasy running back and we talked about this on the pot earlier this week. Cam akers fantastic stash. Your team is headed to the playoffs. And cam akers on your waiver. Wire go get him. Pick them up but under bench. See what happens. I do think he does have a chance to be a difference maker for your fantasy team. What about kyle. Rudolph irv smith did not practice but adam ceiling is expected back. I think rudolph is okay. I had a tough time in a couple of weeks zach. Ertz was on the waiver. Wire ch- choosing between him and root off. And i went with ertz just thinking okay. If he's healthy he'll be back in the swing of things and we know that tight. End your big part of what. Philadelphia's offense is now. But i don't mind going after kyle rudolph if you need a tight end who you know is going to play. And there's another sleeper out there. Tyler effort who had a touchdown he released about two touchdowns last week. Decent matchup in week number. Thirteen don't have to spend a lot of fat form. A lot of people are looking for him. But i think he's got a chance to come through again as they touched on her bus tight. End if you're desperate if you need a tight and you can put them last on your priority at that position you know. The texans have played eleven games and in ten of them to pass catchers heavy. They're caught a touchdown or had ninety yards. So there's a vacancy there so keep an eye on qt. I know he's available. Almost every league jordan akins could be another one who steps. Let me let me give you one more isaiah. Coulter who's a rookie for them. Should get an opportunity to play Obviously in dynasty leagues there's one dynasty in. I'm putting a trying to figure out a five percent to try and get coulter on my bench just to see what happens for the next week or two. Okay dave let me ask you about savant. Myles gaskin what you think. About the dolphins backfield's they get ready for. Cincinnati comment was limited in practice. And hopefully gaskin back this week. I think it's going to be a rotation between the two of them. I would imagine that the coaching staff in miami has more trust in gaskin than med and gaskin has been a little more proven in passing situations and the washington didn't practice so this is a merry go round. Running back for the dolphins could be as many as three heads in that backfield. Include patrick laird but if all three of those guys are healthy i think gaskin is the best one. We could be getting the andre swift back. Darrell babbel's optimistic there. We could. We should be getting jonathan taylor back. We expect him to play and todd. Gurley was limited in practice so we could be getting him back as well and are those three running backs starts if they are playing a swift taylor and todd gurley they starts. I think they all are just by nature of the beast of the position. Gurley is the one. I'd be most scared to start. He'd be a low and number two option swift. I don't care if he's playing the bears or not. I came hicks in practice on wednesday for chicago. And that would make the matchup even better for swift. And and taylor. You've gotta figure against texans could get a lot of work do well with it all right. That's it for fantasy football today in five. Make sure you follow us. Three months on spotify leave us a nice five star of unit good comment and we'll answer your questions on sunday for dave richard. I'm adam as or thanks for listening. We'll talk to you on friday morning. I'm all thrown off with this. Nfl schedule on friday.

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Steelers Preview Special Edition, Part 2: Expecting both the expected and unexpected against the Ravens in Week 12

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Steelers Preview Special Edition, Part 2: Expecting both the expected and unexpected against the Ravens in Week 12

"Ri pittsburgh steeler fans. Jeff hardy here for part. Two of the steelers special edition previews something. I'm sick of talking about the ravens. Podcast and here we are with. Brian davis podcast producer. Days goldfield co editor behind the steel curtain. dot com. Your one stop shop for all things. Pittsburgh steelers gotta throw that in there all right now. Let's talk about this Someone brought this up. I wish i knew. But i don't. It wasn't a super chat. It was just a good question. So the pittsburgh steelers. I name the four players that we're going to be out. There were put on the covid list. Well same again. In the not not counting kevin dotson who remains it was gerald hawkins. James conner steph onto would end isaiah bugs. They're also to coaches though. Danny smith junior right brian. He's a junior right is he's a junior. Danny smith junior and mad candies the quarterbacks coach because of the protocols and the steelers being in the in the intensive protocol wherever the nfl's calling it There's been no high risk contacts pride. Because every meeting he had with canada was virtual. therefore he's not in the same room. It's not a denver bronco situation but still what do you think the impact of not having that. Canada on the sideline if any impact at all will be on the steelers offense cheesy night brian. We'll start with you for me i. I really don't think that there's too much of an impact because he's not calling the plays maybe he's suggesting some things. But i i don't know how it goes with assistant coaches. The this is a situation that this is crazy but are they call in. They knows someone ask. Someone asked this too. I wanna say it was might have been ray fittipaldi or marco. Bali is one of the beat writers. Someone said Could they actually like send text messages or call. They can talk at halftime. But they can't do any in game Actual correspondence or anything like that. So but yet back. Canada could get on a zoom. Call technically With the quarterbacks or with rothlisberger feeding at halftime and say i'm watching the game you guys suck or something. I don't know. Go ahead brian. This this just all goes in. The preparation really is what i'm looking at here. How they're prepared now. Danny smith junior. I don't really think that anything that he's doing this is i'm not busting on them. I usually bust. I'm not busting on them so really in game. I don't see him making too many as far as adjustments. Go so i really you know. He's got assistance. He's got there's people to help out on that as remember randy still your offensive coordinator. Possibly ben is still your offensive coordinator. Definitely you know. So what canada's absence is is making suggestions but he's not he's not really he's not designing plays in the middle of the game. He's probably doing more damage on a wednesday thursday or friday designing some schemes devoted thoughts on matt canada. Not being there well as somebody who was not who was a head coach of a lower down program high school. Therefore i wasn't assistant coach on during varsity games and things like that. You're just constantly looking and seeing if you know sometimes you're just your job is to just see one thing specifically and break something down and it might not even be something else with your specifically with what you are normally assigned as being like the quarterbacks coach is that if you can see something and bring it up and say hey we can exploit this the more. It's funny because you want enough sets is on those kind of things but you also don't want too many cooks in the kitchen so missing an assistant or to isn't the end of the world probably because you don't want to have too much but at the same time there might be something that that they could what they would normally see or normally breakdown. Who knows the last time. They played the ravens whose idea it was to spread them out and go and go wide and run. The drama plays in the dirt. Was that ben. was that brady land. Was that candidate. We don't know so. Could there be a little bit of something. Yeah but i don't think it's knowing about it now and being able to adjust going in. That's just that's just how it is and and that's twenty twenty. Nfl football and luckily the steelers don't have to make nearly as many adjustments as what their opponent yeah. I don't think it's going to be that big of an impact. I think that what he brings to the team is probably something that could be done. Virtually anyways game plan talking about. It's going to be to randy and ben rothlisberger to absolutely get that stuff done all right Let's talk. we talked about a little bit about the change in the vegas line. Which is now steelers giving ten points. I have my old prediction here guys. Do you know what yours were brian. Yale years i know david i never right mind down and i did on thursday ed nine wednesday or tuesday. What was that. What did we cheese. Day of last. Tuesday and i wrote my down so i was like twenty six to twenty it will. It was the they covered the spread. But i i don't think it was by much okay so now. The question is knowing what we know now. The players that are out for both teams for both teams has your perception changed if sell. What is your new prediction. And we'll talk about you know covering and all that when you do that so brian. We'll start with. You is your prediction changed. And if so how it's changed a little bit. I expect the steelers to win by a little bit more. But look i think the ravens are still scary in this game. I can see it getting a little crazy in the first half. But i just don't think with the offensive line and the anybody protecting those running that running game and the fact that lamar jackson isn't there to kind of confuse you in the running game that i mean 'cause gus gus edwards is they're just an hill there. Justice hill is there but the problem is they're not in on an island and there's not a threat for hand off to them and lamar jackson. Running around the side. Of course are g three can do that. And i understand that. But not as dynamically as lamar can. So the reason i'm bringing all of this up is i'm thinking the steelers still win this game. Thirty one to twenty. But i actually thirty one to twenty three. But i just don't think that it's it's going to be a walk in the park. Okay dave. i'm changing mine. Mine was thirty nine to twenty seven. Was what i had said and i don't believe that now for for a moment because i don't think the steelers we'll have to score that many points and we also taking into account that we can have a few inches of snow on the ground And stuff that. They're dealing with in pittsburgh tuesday nights but you know it's still the color s uniforms yum hope. I'm just hoping it's funny because a lot of times you just you gauge some stuff with the team based on fan excitement and obviously the fan excitement for this is completely died down because of being strung along struggling. I'm hoping that team is not in the same boat. But i think it's going to be a lower scoring game now. I'm would be surprised. To see some decent rushing totals for the steelers. They're going to get to a point in the game. Hopefully that they can that they'll just lineup to run and run and actually let their lineman blocked guys down the field rather than just trying to hold their position out of shotgun and things like that and take advantage of that defensive line and and those kinds of things. So i'm going to. I'm going to drop down now to twenty seven to thirteen. Okay all right very good. I too had a very high scoring game scheduled for on thanksgiving night. The steelers winning thirty three to twenty four. I'm gonna dial that back as well on both ends just a little bit Going to have pittsburgh winning this game on tuesday night. Thirty to seventeen thirty to seventeen again i. I think that they're going to think pittsburgh's going to move the ball. I think they're going to be a run the ball and we're gonna talk about that running game here second but i think that ultimately pittsburgh is to do enough to win against this banged up and depleted ravens crew. No i wanna talk about the players for the steelers that are going to be out. This this tuesday but before we get that Arthur steal it was a dollar ninety nine again. Thank you very much. He said who has a better showing for the steelers in week. Twelve the offense the defense brian. We'll start with you you don't that is so hard to tell you know if they if they do catch the steelers with the pants. Their pants down on defense changes. Don't expect them to do. The offense could really have a better game. But i'm betting on the defense here you know. I'm if i'm the defensive coordinator i'm just rushing the heck out of watt and Do and let them just like just like every like backyard football. Just go after the quarterback. Don't count to three just blitz. Dave who has a better showing. I'm the whole thing with and changing my my answer for the score was about tone and the tone of the game. Is it the tone going to be an offensive game or a defensive game. Just all around and i thought it last thursday it was going to be an offensive game for both teams now. I do feel that. It's going to be more of a defensive game. I do and i think the steelers defense is going to have a very good showing. The only reason i picked thirteen points was. Because i've i'm afraid that they're going to get something at some point but i could see this defense doing like mean. The steelers have only given up thirteen points total in the last two games so i think this defense is really the driving force of everything going on with this team and i just have a feeling in this game the way it goes is the defense drives it and the offense just tries to do enough to hold on to secure the win yet in this game the steelers one on establish a run. They wanna get a lead and just kind of if it's ugly and it's a low scoring affair they don't care they just wanna get the win and move on to the next game Let's talk about quickly the The players that are out for pittsburgh. So let's leave dodson out of it because he's been on the list for a while so we're talking request or is there a possibility he could come back. Does he have to go through any kind of now. Because no of any vance mcdonald. They asked him in tomlin him. Being tomlin tomlin said that he was cleared to practice and then he practiced but he wasn't even on the practice report because he had to day was a two day waiver. I think it was when you come back but you don't have to use it. I don't think so where they wanna make sure you're healthy enough when you come back. You don't have any effect so that's still a possibility because i'll talk about that when we get together position. Okay so leaving dots and author list you look at hawkins connor to it and bugs so it really comes down to two and connor. Who's the biggest loss for the steelers. When you're looking adept when you're looking at what they're gonna to do on tuesday night. Which is the bare loss to connor. Dave will start with you. Well i have an article that will come out probably tomorrow. Maybe in the afternoon or something depends on what i talked to. Jeff about the gonna talk about what the steelers are gonna do with each of these positions where they're going to be missing players and what's interesting is when it comes to the defensive line. The steelers were actually carrying extra defensive lineman more than they ever normally have so even though they have two guys down there. They're still have five left on the team that they can dress without even have to bringing up anyone from the practice squad. So i think i honestly think that too. It is the bigger loss. But i also think that they have more of an opportunity to overcome to its loss to base on the depth to that position. If you know that seems like it'd really answer the question but you understand what i'm saying. I mean going into it. You're like i think that missing to it on the defense is more than missing connor on the offense. But i also think that the guys who could be asked to step up have a better chance of stepping. I've more confidence in them throughout the game if that makes yeah brian we think to it or connor. Who's the bigger loss gerald. Hawkins actually i think joe hawkins loss of gerald hawkins is bigger than anybody thinks. But that's not my answer. You know i can give you a dave answer and say i. I think they're both equally important in this game. Especially if there's a lot of snow on the field and you want you need to establish the running game but you have a better shot at snell being able to step in than warmly stepping always going to do fine but i think to it or as the jacksonville. Pa announcer tut is going to be i. Did you catch that. Because i like on the tackle and our friends from tennessee too. But when i when i heard announcer said i'm like all right that's brilliant so i think todd is going to be very tough very tough loss for the steelers. Because here's the thing. Though about losing stefan every time stuff onto out of the lineup. Who steps up in a huge way care roy hayward i wish i wish we knew his middle name get her. That's hold on names anyway. Remember tough. But i just think i think conners very important in this game but i'm going to it all right dave. Jalen simmons is out correct. I was gonna talk about that. I said well. It's cameron phillips hayward philips philips got it okay so jalen samuels. They're going to be carrying just to know next now. Now now because they you forget they have four empty roster spots right now not only that they can bring these guys up from the practice squad and whenever these guys come back off the list they can go back on the practice squad without having to go through waivers and it doesn't count as one of those elevated dimes where you only get two of them. I can i if you wanna place a safe bet on this game. Bet that window small woods going to be on the steelers roster for this game. He's come and that would be three and it'll carry three but still i look at this and i. I'm more confident with the defensive line depth because they had to do it already not necessarily for two. But they fill in for our wallow They do a nice job. Rotating players in there So even carlos davis has gotten time warmly back at a at the perfect time in. Then mondo is there. I i like their deaf defensively. Benny snell is someone that played well last year last year in week. Seventeen at a pretty good start to the twenty twenty season in new york had a big run and everyone was thinking up. Here is this time. And he sort of fumbling the football. I'm not sure any. Mike tomlin said on sunday when he has asked about benny snell he said i have no concerns about benny snell being a feature back in the nfl. But i'm curious. Are they gonna try to mix in a lot of mcfarland. I think the james conner is loss is bigger than people realize. I said this on my. Let's ride and i'll say it here to the let's ride. That will run on monday morning. That is if i think. If anthony macfarlane could go the way of milwaukee more really work on blitz pick up. He would be the perfect. They're down back his ability to get out in space. Is he agrees. Good catching the football. He is a lot of speed. i think he'd be perfect in that role but he's not there yet. Go ahead dave. Okay this is. This is kind of going to be. What's up going into this article for tomorrow or today. If you're listening to nadia perform when it comes to the running back the most concerning thing that i have is is pass blocking. That's one and two. The thing with benny snell has benny snell is your line up. I say i formation with data. But he's he's you're under center. Let the law offensive line. Fire out and push everyone forward running back. The problem is that's not the way they've been running the ball with ben rothlisberger. That's why you haven't seen as much benny snell. But that's the way they will run the ball if they have a big lead. They're just trying to run out clock and that's when beni shmelts. Benny snell will be more effective. So that's my biggest concern but the other reason like the loss of honor isn't as much i'm thinking is that if they have problems with either pass protection or just running the ball general. They're just gonna go four wide receivers and tight end and throw quick passes that i think the offense will work around that more since that was also the answer they had against baltimore last time. I often would work around that more than they can say we need. Someone stuffing up the middle on defense. Now i think worm lee is going to be the guy that fills in for to it in base. But i think when they go some package. You're gonna see all wallace steinfield. More your pride. You're probably right and i will always done that. His entire tenure so he's very comfortable in that role a real quick. I wanna get this. Because he gave it to his donation. A little bit of their snowman gives us five dollars. It can you guys start calling the ravens. The radford's let's go see his. Yes that's right. We've had way too many ravens comments here today. We need to get back to call him. Drivers by the way my Second oldest daughter. She said the other day. I called them the rappers. Why are you calling rappers ravens. Like a flying rat. So that's basically that's basically so very intelligent animal still all right Guys what else peaks your interest about this. This game is never going to happen. That we're just gonna keep talking about forever odd. Seems like brian. Is there anything in particular that you like. This is something that fans should be concerned with. Is there anything at all you know. I think both teams are going to be so fired up for this game that we are. We don't even know what to expect in this game with. Just i mean hoping to get to forty eight hours from now. And that's it. We're we're hoping to get to gain time. And so it is going to be like. I said before the ravens are gonna come in feeling like survivors. They're gonna they're gonna feel like they're taking on the world and the steelers are going to have a chip on their shoulder to. It's just comes down to really. Who was the better team coming into this game. And that's that's really what you've you've got to think about so somebody mentioned earlier that when i mentioned that i'm afraid of the ravens a little bit in this game and somebody asked batter you living in your fears. I'm a time share in my fears. I really because anything can happen. I was never this anxious. But i've seen the ravens come in. I was at the ryan mallett game. I know dave was too. I was at that game. You see stuff happened. And they are still coming in. I know there are jv team. But they scare me. And i think you said before to jeff. They're going to pull out all the gadgets and they're going to go crazy if the steelers are the team we think they are. They're going to be fine. Is you throw out everybody. That's gone all the pieces that you're putting together you look at the teams that existed before week. Twelve the the ravens a week. Eleven and the steelers in week. Eleven and look at it that way whose leftover who has more holes and who's going to finish this game all right dave. What about you anything. They kind of Sticks out Heading the answer could be no. We've covered everything else and for all we know we could. You know we're sitting here talking about y'all you gotta worry about this player that player and we're assuming and we're i mean believe it or not we're hoping there's no more positive tests that would just make. It seem like that. The outbreak still happening. But next thing out someone else might not be available. Remember who was jimmy. Smith is questionable with like an ankle or something y- questionable leading up to because they haven't activist the same reason someone had asked really about. Joe haden joe. Hayden is questionable because they hadn't practiced for three days in the last time that he practiced he was limited so a questionable designation was good for him. So this'll be interesting. Someone brought this up. I meant to say this earlier and can bring up the super chat. Because i meant to say this before. I miss it just happened with john. Knox two dollars dare derek. What the backfield would help us a lot is. Do you think there's any chance that they could if they if they're keeping a running back in the game for pass protection. Do you think it could possibly be derek. What yeah you could if it's purely for pass pro but the problem is that we always talk about dave. We hate when they do things. That are predictable. We even they do things that so unless you're going to hand the ball off to erik wate even if it's a delay draw then y even do it. Why not five wide. You're obviously go to throw it to get it. I get it. But i guess i guess if you're going to put it back in the backfield outer now that's just my thought. We have like ten minutes left in this. Show live chad questions. If you wanna trivia you do we have trivia short trivia game. That's for sure when a now. Wanna get some questions because a lot of people have been asking questions. I wanna get some of these. We'll do some rapid fire questions in a set good. Here's the question. Have the pittsburgh steelers ever played a game on tuesday. I'm going to say now. I'm gonna say pre merger. Yeah how about nineteen forty-five side twenty-fifth nineteen forty five. Where they played. I got to bring this up here. Because they played the b- boston slash brooklyn yanks slash tigers because it was nineteen forty five. This was the year after they were. I think it was card. Pitt was forty four right brian so this was the next year now. It didn't turn out well for the steelers. It was the first game of the season. They lost twenty eight to seven. But there's gotta be some things that the steelers are gonna be able to do for the first time ever in a game played on a tuesday. One is get a victory. One is rushed for more than twenty two yards. Get because that's all the rushing yards. They add in that game. Another would be for pass for more than one hundred and thirteen yards. Another one would be to throw less than six. Interceptions won't even better to have. Well losing four fumbles. It just didn't lose them so they had six turnovers in the game. So these are some things that the steelers will now have a chance to do. Shockingly the actually had more first downs in that game in their opponent but when you have six interceptions that'll that'll kind of do that. So they have the they could set. They could really set some records on tuesday so Make sure we realized when they hit hit. That twenty-third rushing yards against the ravens. That we're all putting that out there on twitter that they've Not rushed for the most yards ever from pittsburgh steelers team on a tuesday and dead. That dick shiner. He was something else back actually was but it was like willie shakespeare toy. Toyomi t t. Oh hi yami jarvi. Oh i'm a big jerry. Tai khotan touchdown passed john. Lewis and dave. I gotta tell you nine hundred forty five two thousand twenty apples. Oranges tastes the same. I just thought was as much true. It was just fun facts. There you dick. Shiner was nine hundred sixty nine jeff. That's well. I know that. I mean at the same time i if any time it's before like the seventies it's always dick shiner. Okay with boardman this. I don't know probably not. Cathy forgives us five dollars. She says dear santa's go. I've been very good fingers crossed. I'd love guest visit from the hater. School see we you can do at the school. We'll see i like that. By the way. I'm i'm i'm not i'm not be not bad. That's up to the the day p they're all right. You already questions as we have done this and while we never time all right rapid fire. We're always going to go bryan. Then dave just say you know all right. Mrs and mr steele are we gonna play brian. Yes dave i agree to. Who's the who pose a threat to the front seven gus edwards or g. three robert griffin the third in. Turn all between you and the superjet. I'm completely off track. And i'm gonna pay seattle's two losses. What was the question who poses the bigger threat to our front seven. Gus edwards of rg three. Gus edwards. i agree. Gus edwards air nathan nathaniel says who has the best hair out of the three of you. Well are we talking about here on your head hair on your face. I don't have much up top. So i'd have to say bryan right. I mean that's brian. Offer the show. It's the only genetic lottery. I'm ever going to win almost fifty and i've got a full head of hair my heredity was good to me. They're nowhere else. I will tell you this. If we're talking in general. I the exact opposite of my brother. My brother has a as x. He wasn't that genetic lottery. I guess i got more of the of the athleticism and overall physical prowess well. He got good hair in his mid forties. Very good next question. What role will. derek watt. Play on tuesday night. Brian touchdown really. Oh the bold prediction that we already did both predictions but anyways dave with special teams ace. I think they're gonna use for. I think you're going to see him more as a full back. That more of a traditional fullback this game. then you have since he's been brought into pittsburgh period so we'll see and then we also did talk about how you know. Derek watt could potentially like you said david they're gonna use him in different ways with james conner being out there. Yup all right next question would no huddle help against a depleted bradbourn defense bryant. Yeah i think so. I think they do. Dave kerr all right. It's no man. Was joe haden in a minor accident this week. Yes you know. Believe it. Or i didn't write this story for the website i probably should have or one of us should have going on. There was a law going on. Yes he was in a an accent. He did post a video of the vehicle and the other vehicle. There didn't look great but same yes. He was brian. Let's talk about that at any way shape or form. I don't i don't know too much about it. I i know it was. I just minor and not a big deal. Nothing to worry about. Dave damage was done to the vehicles. Not to the people. From what i understand and i do recall unseen airbag deployment. I could be wrong. I just didn't notice it wasn't looking at two. Oh mike back chimes derek. Wada's good hands. I just want the steelers. Use more all die on this hill. He has a jersey so he has to get super steelers. Were they were. They called the steelers in nineteen. Forty five i guess the question is how long were they the pirates until they were they were the steelers and forty five thirty three to thirty nine. They were the pirates right. If angels been asking this question. I've seen it enduring the preview. Literally the last four or five shows he's a. When will the after party be brought back. That's a question for the you know what we were actually going to bring back the the after party today before all the shenanigans. This was going to be an after party type show on sunday but when the game started getting moved you know we could do it. But it's it'll come back. Maybe off sees season the year. It is not the after party. Was we do a separate podcast. And it would be suo off-the-wall. I think maybe this time since we're a little bit more technologically advanced brian. We probably wouldn't have to start the show all the way over. Give a break in just know how to cut up the audio accordingly. Yeah definitely because. I'd love to do one before christmas. 'cause i've got a lot to say about baby. It's cold outside santa baby. You're catching up with cancer. Cancel culture it's been going on for years. They go back to these songs in there. Well we gotta cancel this song. Because it's from the thirties and they used to say a word. That doesn't mean the same thing i don't know i want to go after the santa claus though. I want to go after that movie. I've my wife goes crazy when i go after that movie. Really yeah you still kid. My gosh son. It's his son any kid is he's getting them. He steals the kid. I mean the. They're not expect they come out and they're like. Hey where's charley. He's gone there. The north pole dancing around a sharp dressed man by z. z. Top and while the the wife the ex wife and the psychiatrist or kid might be dead so sad for thirty days. They're they're what's next. Are you gonna be mad. At bruce willis throws a dead body out of nagatomi plaza. Gets someone's attention. That i mean this is this is. This is what we're talking about his son. That's just a bad social commentary on our times. I never touched nakagomi plaza in fact very dave. I found my knocking christmas party. T shirt today nice nice. Hey here's a question. We're kind of going after parties. If anyone ever says i love movie die hard. You have to ask him one question and you'll be able to tell right away if they actually know die hard. Or if they're just nothing but a fake and a phony say why is bruce willis barefoot the entire movie. And you will be stunned. How many people don't know that answer because they might have started watching it on. Tnt in a pick it up like right when the shots are fired. And he's in the bathroom or the office area and then he's gotta go into action. But why's he barefoot is the question. I know you owner a dino right. I've never watched diehard. Oh my i told you this. How many towns. The part of the reason i've never watched it is because i love big able to say the fact that i've never watched it man star wars and you know what i heard was on my house during my birthday party last year. Dave and you told me where to sit and you specifically sat me down with my back to television okay. Although i did hear christmas in hollis so that was fan and my invitation must got lost for that party anyways. You didn't show up party vic you add a good time all right so my melania scope gives us a dollar ninety nine says dick shiner. Sixty nine was my email school regret. I think we're getting dagger mortgage is four nights. His love the show guys. Do you think the steelers open up the offense around the same scripted. b s To start the game. I think they run the same script to be asked and then i think they opened it up as they always. Do anyone disagree with that. I agree until they do something different. We have reason to believe it but once again we know the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. But that seems you know. I don't think anyone's explaining. If we want to say that terrific ner in an interview he would probably have no idea what we're talking about. He was now really. You mean just keep doing the same thing. Yeah i love this Rhino toll as is not christmas until hans grammar takes a header off. target term. Was so good so good all right anything else. You final thoughts. Let's see some final thoughts Brian will go with verse. This has been a crazy week for everybody. I mean there. We have been on a roller coaster of emotion. As far as being pittsburgh steeler fans waiting for this game to happen. I still am not convinced it's going to happen but i'm predicting that it's going to the nfl at this point wants to make sure that this happens. It's going to be very good ballgame a lot better than anybody expects. I expect the steelers to win. But man i realize something this entire week. I've never had a by this late in the season. And you know it felt like a by because we didn't have it on sunday we. We're not going to have it on monday night. I know it's just another bit of weight. I realized how much i crave an am addicted to the black and gold dave ahead final thoughts runs at seven about a by and so i have to correct something that i said last week that They're not every team has had their bite so far in twenty twenty one. I was thinking that they had the tampa bay buccaneers and and carolina. Panthers wasn't this week. Everyone played this week. They will by next week by. We aren't week twelve. There's no buys. I just thought oh the visor done no. They've them for week thirteen. So it's interesting when it comes to this game because for the longest time and which is really now going gonna bust into billy joel. Sorry for me by the longest time. I mean the last three days. I've really felt that. I was getting my hopes up thinking this game going on tuesday that it's just after what happened with tennessee. I'm like i keep thinking it's that i was. I was going west. I was go west. I was the king of wishful thinking. That really wasn't going to happen now. I actually do feel that. It is because i feel when the. Nfl comes out and says that. They think that they have a handle on the situation. Then i feel. There's a handle on this situation. I don't see how there could have another outbreak saying they haven't even been together until this evening gaining the baltimore ravens. So let's get it done. Let's get it done. Let's get to eleven and let's eliminate the ravens from the afc north and then the steelers really need one more victory to get to balk in a postseason berth. And then it's just from there just we'll go higher and higher. I get the postseason then. Let's get the north and let's get the number one seed but let's just go one at a time and the very first one is knocked the ravens out of the afc north by winning this game. On tuesday. I just hope that i let me just says. I'm so sick of talking about the baltimore ravens. I hear that team. I hate everything about them. I'm so sick of talking about him. The freaking radford's get out of here seriously. Go to heinz. You'll on tuesday will whip up on you. Send you back the your legs. Rg three won't be dancing in the end zone like he was last season. I think there's retribution coming. I'm going to be a complete sellout and say make sure you. Check out my. Let's ride podcast on monday morning. Where i somehow tien ryan mallet to a groundhog. That lived underneath my gazebo. In the back. You gotta tune into something. I talk about suburban off on you. All right with that said thank you all. I hope you'll have headed great weekend. I hope that your mondays off to a good start. 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"Pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome back to another episode steeler stat. Geek this is behind the steel curtain co editor. Dave scofield coming at you on a thursday morning yet again to talk about some geeky numbers i gotta see. They're kicking numbers. Called stat geek. But they're not really all that geeky they're just some good numbers things breaking down. The pittsburgh steelers this past season in general things going forward just any kinds of numbers. Hey i'm always looking always looking for these questions. We're actually going to answer several questions. That i got on twitter. Do that the second half of the show. I got more than these questions. A one of my goodness. It was a really deep really involved question that if i can't even get the answer it would take me a very long time and it lets you say it would be enough for an entire show so i can't answer all of them that were thrown out to me. They're on twitter. But i am going to answer a good bit of them but what we're doing here. Is that brian. Anthony davis helped me say something that it was steelers quarterly. Well bottom line is is what i wanted to do for this episode is i wanted to look back at the steelers twenty twenty season. I know there's a lot of. There's a lot of snark and sarcasm coming out of every time you try to do something with the steelers out there. I mean i have to admit some. i'm i'm getting a little bit worn down with it. Because it's like every time you know we have an article on bt se whether goes on twitter whether it goes on facebook whether it's just on the website there's always someone who's got a comment well been lost in the playoffs or you know with something obvious that yes i know the ending of the steelers. Two thousand twenty season stunk. It sucked it did. That's just what happened. Yes but does that. Define their entire season. It does a lot but it doesn't mean that you can't look at the other parts of the season meaning that you that you can still learn things from week six and whatnot about what happened throughout the season and it seems like you. I'm getting a little bit more down with it like any any time. You want to talk about anything with the twenty twenty season. All people want to say this. But ben threw four interceptions of the playoff game but they snapped the ball over the head but they gave up forty eight points. Yes these things are all true. But if we really wanna get down and get serious about dissecting things with the pittsburgh steelers it's more than just a playoff game. Yes that's a very important part of it but you can't only focus on that you can only focus on that so that's kind of my little rant to start off this episode because i mean even an article that i had on on the website just just this week i think what's he was. I think it was on wednesday. So i think it was yesterday that it was about the steelers home record and the reason i was talking about the. Ceo's home record was because for the first time in the nfl the ho- home teams did not have a winning record for the season. They went a hundred and twenty seven and one hundred twenty eight and one so yes granted they were only a half game for being five hundred. But that's a big deal because you know there's been times where it's been like in the sixty percent that the home team's win so with no fans in the stands and everything like that you say. Okay so yeah there there you would expect or not be as much of a of a home field advantage but yet the steelers were tied with three other team. I think it was three other teams may before That were there. Were seven and one at home this year so they tied for the best home record in the regular season and it was the most wins. They've had an home since two thousand eleven and They've only done that several times so even though they had these issues going on they still had a good home record. I broke it down more. I i talked about their opponents at home versus their opponents on the road and their overall winning percentages and things like that. But of course i even had to throw in the disclaimer in the article. Yes we know that. It's not translate to playoff success. They were oh and one at home in the playoffs and that is not good. I said i realized this. But talking about the regular season where you can actually compare it to the entire. Nfl because not the entire nfl makes the postseason. Of course what is going to say. They didn't win the playoffs. I said that in in the article. I know this. The steelers lost the wild card round. They favored to win by lot. They didn't it's awful. It's terrible but if you're all you're going to fixate on that then you're not going to be able to move forward. You need to learn from it but you have to be able to move forward. That playoff loss is like that girl. You were engaged to that. Didn't workout big commitment ready to move forward life together. Didn't work out something happened. You break up eventually move on with your life and it's not that you can't learn from that experience but if that experience is going to define everything you do with the rest of your life than your rest of your life is going to have issues the whole time. Eventually you're going to have to move on. You're going to have to look back at other things you learned in your life and other things that led up to that engagement in order to in order to figure out what you're doing moving forward so i've random that longer than i should have but that's just kinda on my mind an awful lot with with these things but what i want to do. Yes it stinks about what happened to the playoffs. I wanted to see how the steelers got to that point and you can use the regular season to see how this team was trending and believe it or not. It's very interesting. The way broke. Data the reason that says steelers quarterly is because when when. Nfl coaches look at their seasons. As they're going and everything afterwards and whatnot they look at it in four quarters because you play sixteen games. At least that's what they've been playing Since one thousand nine hundred seventy eight seventy eight But you know next year could be that seventeenth game. What we'll see if that comes through or not has a lot to do with the tv deals but when you break it down that way you're basically playing four four game seasons so if you look at specifically those quarters at how things went with those quarters. It's going to tell you a lot. So let's break it down for four twenty twenty steelers by quarter. So i'd compare them with the rest of the nfl and the pairing the every team's first four games so that way it couldn't be no. Oh you went through the first four weeks of the season. Seventeen weeks where you're going to throw it in. Don't care where teams buys were so it wasn't but the exact same date it was every team's games one through four and here's how it broke down. I looked at your overall yardage points for offense and defense how the steelers were ranked. And then i also looked at passing yards and rushing yards both offense and defense in each quarter and saw how they ranked in what they gave up. So let's look at it back when the steelers played their first four games where they went four and now it's important to know who the opponents were with some of these things because the steelers they face the giants the broncos the texas in the eagles. Those were all that did end up with losing records past season. That's i mean that's that's the truth behind it it. It is what it is but all you can do is play. Play the teams on your schedule but if you look at what the steelers did on offense they were they were ranked thirteenth in the nfl. In yards over the first four games they've ranked tenth in points scored. They were ranked twentieth in passing yards. And they were ranked eighth in rushing yards. So remember back. Those first four games of the season the steelers were rushing while they had five hundred and fifty five yards in the first four games of the season. They did not have that many rushing yards in their final eight games this season. So as you can see this team i mean when you look at their overall rushing yards for the for the season they only had thirteen fifty. So so you're talking about over a third of their rushing yards. Were in the first quarter of the season so that that's very interesting that they started off that way and they were running the football and it wasn't even just james conner because he got injured early in week one and benny snell rush for over one hundred yards so but if you look at the steelers defensively they were ranked third in the nfl. In yards surrendered they were ranked seventh in the nfl and point surrendered they were ranked thirteenth in the nfl in passing yards surrendered and they were ranked. First in the nfl in rushing yards. Given up the first four games the steelers rushed for five hundred fifty yards and they gave up. Only two hundred and fifty charts. That's how they started. That's how the season started. And but those passing yards were down the steelers were selling out against the the run with some of these young quarterbacks. You know that's what they did against saquon barkley and things of that sort so it was quite quite interesting. They just didn't want teams in the ball. So then you turn into the second quarter of the season so here comes the second quarter of the season. And you've got this is where the opponents got to be a little bit better opponents but the steelers still want four and out of those opponents three of the four finished with winning records and made the post season. 'cause they played the cleveland browns tennessee. Titans baltimore ravens and dallas cowboys. Those were their next four games. Four no again. The steelers offensively their yards dropped from thirteenth in the first quarter to twenty eight in the second quarter they were twenty eight. The nfl in offensive yards gained but they actually increased their ranking in offense of points scored from eighth from ten to eight. They went from ten to eight. And what's what's interesting is. They actually scored one last point in the second quarter of the season they escorted hundred and eighteen points in the first quarter of the season. One hundred seventeen the second quarter but that hundred and seventeen actually raised their ranking their their their offensive passing yards were twentieth in the nfl and they're rushing yards went from eight to thirty. I dropped all the way down the thirty first now. Part of that was the teams that they were playing against. But that's you would thought at the time but as you see it didn't really get much much better actually. It could barely get worse and it did so when you look at the defensive side of the ball they get. They gave their eighth in yard surrendered. They were fifth in points surrendered so there was even that was even better against the quality opponents. The revai gave up fewer points up. Seventy four points in the second quarter versus eighty seven in the first quarter and went from break seventh-ranked rank fifth and they were. They did much better in their past defense. They were ranked seventh in the nfl. But what happened. Was there rush. Defense dropped from first to twenty eighth so they went from two hundred and fifty six yards two five hundred sixty six yards like. Wow that's a big deal but you also gotta look at who they were playing. They played the kluber cleveland. Browns nick chubb in play game. But they only gave up seventy five rushing yards. they played derrick henry. The tennessee titans the only gave up. Eighty two rushing yards. You're like wow. They did that against those two teams to start the second quarter. Yeah well how the they end up twenty eighth. Because the next week they gave up two hundred. Sixty five rushing yards to the baltimore ravens. That's why and then the following week against the cowboys without ezekiel elliott. They gave up one hundred and forty four rushing yards there now that there was some interesting stuff in that game. I think some of that. If i recall trying to remember which game they gave up some big time rushing yards at the end when the game was kind of out of hand. I don't think. I think that was the next game against the bengals so But that's why they dropped so low in in the rush defense. So what happened if you look at it from quarter one to quarter to. The biggest difference came with rushing both offensively and defensively. They dropped from eight to thirty first in rushing the ball and they dropped from first to twenty eighth in defending the run. The question is where do they go from their third quarter. Steelers went three and one in the third quarter the season and and But they only played the only played one team had a winning record and two of them were teams. That made the postseason because the last thing they played in that quarter was the washington football team who did not have a winning record but did make the postseason because they played the bengals the jaguars the ravens and the football team and that quarter. This is where things started to fall apart halfway through this quarter for matt ravens game on his when it was the beginning of the end for the steelers even though they won that game. But if you if you look at it with their offense of yards they they jumped up. They had their their best quarter of the season. In those four games there were eleven to the nfl with with fourteen fourteen. Ten was the yardage their points. They dropped the dropped in their points. Scored two fifteen to the nfl. Hit one hundred points in the last quarter or nonetheless. Quarter in the third quarter of the season. So that's part of the problem going on there and this was actually. You'd think this would be good but this is actually bad. Their pass offensive. That's offensive yards. Went all the way up to fourth in the nfl. They jumped up to almost twelve hundred yards in that quarter. And you're like well that's good not when you're not when you're rushing is thirty second in the league in early two hundred and thirty nine yards. So that was part of the season where the steelers. It was obvious they were passing the ball. They couldn't run it. They were passing it the defense. This is where they started to really stand out was in the third quarter this season. So what's interesting. Is the offensive numbers. Were quite troubling but the defensive numbers were great. And that's part of the reason why the steelers were three and one in there but me think about it. They had gave the games in there. They gave up ten points three points fourteen points and then the one loss was still twenty three points so in yardage they were they were second in the nfl points given up. They were second. They'll give up fifty points in defensive Giving give passing yards surrendered. They were second in the nfl. So get even better defending the pass and then in the rush rush yards department rushing yards surrendered much improved from the second quarter. They were up to ninth in the nfl but they cut that number back to three hundred sixty yards over those four games so it was the defense that was still carrying the team. In the third in that third. Quarter if you look at it. The first quarter of the season you had a pretty decent balance. It was more defense but the offense was still doing. its part. second quarter They both struggled with the rushing parts. Third quarter the defense carried the day. The defense carried the day in the third quarter the season more than anything and the steelers left with only passing the ball for the most part. So then you get to the fourth quarter season where the steelers inverted that record from three in one back to one and three so what happened there very very interesting. So the steelers. Oh just so you know the teams. They played the last. The last four weeks of the season were three teams finished about three or four finished above five hundred and three of the four. Made the postseason. So that was one of the the other biggest best stretch of of teams that they faced. Nasi gotta remember that the steelers rested starters net last game. But that game didn't get out of hand or anything like that. But the steelers off yards. Offensively twenty-seventh over the last four games. Points scored twenty seconds. They only scored eighty three points. In those last four games passing yards they were thirteenth so they weren't pass even hit a thousand so they were a team that was relied on the pass and they weren't getting as many passing yards and then the rushing yards once again thirty second the league but they were one yard more than what they were the previous quarter. They went from two thirty nine to forty so that just kind of showed what happened. Offensively there is as it went on. Let's look at those defensive numbers. They fell off a little bit In yard surrendered. They were tenth. That was down from the previous quarter and that was their lowest quarter of the season because they were third eighth second tenth then point surrendered. It was the most points. They surrendered in a quarter all season. It was over one hundred one hundred one two. They were seventeenth. That was their worst because he went seventh to fifth to second trending in the right direction. Boom seventeenth defensive. Passing yards surrendered. That was still up there. That was one with bright spots they were fourth so after starting thirteenth and then getting better to seventh all the way up the second they slipped a little bit the fourth but not bad and then you had the rush defects which went from i. It was up and down. I twenty eight to nights to the final quarter. Twenty fifth gave up over five hundred yards rushing actually gave up more yards rushing in the final quarter of the season than they did. In the second quarter this season they gave up. Five hundred and seventy five yards in four games Mainly because they gave up one hundred yards it every game and that quarter one hundred four to the bills one hundred fifty two to the bengals hundred and twenty seven to the colts at one hundred ninety. Two the browns. So that's what happened so if you look at these numbers and try to figure out what really want on where things fell apart. All i think it all came down to more than anything. Now it would be. I could've dovan even more and got into the takeaways and stuff like that and turnovers because it seems like that was. The steelers were very dependent on that all season that it had to get the takeaways in order for them to do to be successful as can if you don't get them then you're gonna be in trouble but the biggest thing really came out of rushing the ball and stopping the run for the steelers to come out the way they did to start the season and rushed the ball well and did not up rushing yards that that generally comes down to being you know desire being physical with the other team things of that nature you know pushing other people around rather than being pushed around and i think it would be safe to say that early the season the steelers were doing all right pushing people around but by the end of the year they were getting pushed around not as much defensively as they were offensively. If you know what. I mean but it really comes down to i mean. Could you chop that up to the lack of by week you could you really could but that only goes so far. It really does so. I just thought i'd break that down into quarters. I know with a little bit long with this first with this. First part of this Of the show here. It won't be too long the second part but i just thought it was interesting to see when you break it down at a quarter of the season and think of what happened to the steelers over those quarters. That's what happened. So so they all of a sudden. They went from the twentieth in passing twentieth. And passing in both the in both the first two quarters when had to go all the way up to fourth in the third quarter in order to still games and then they had a drop in drop back down because teams no new that they could try to defend a pass against them and just didn't have enough balance with those things in order to figure it out. So we're gonna go ahead and take a quick break. We'll come back and answer some questions that i had and continue to just have some nice fun hickey number so around with you right back after the support for this podcast comes from state farm. The good neighbors who offer you surprisingly great rates on your home and car insurance state farm agents are great at helping you personalize your insurance to match your needs plus an award winning app that makes the whole insurance process surprisingly great. So if you're looking for a surprisingly great rate that comes with a lot of other surprisingly great things like a good neighbor state farm. Is there pittsburgh. Steelers episode fewer stat. This is actually the second half of the episode. Welcome back from the first half. We broke down. The what how. The steelers performed by quarter of the season That's the kind of stuff that the coaches are going to be looking at and things of that nature so it only made sense for for us to to kind of go in there and break that down just a little bit but going attor to some questions and it's funny because i just realized that one of the questions. I didn't answer quite right. So i'm going to have to try to see if i can throw together the complete answer there. I kind of i kind of miss read it just just a little bit but you know that happens. But i'll i'll get it all all when it comes to it but i've got to put them out there like i said i couldn't answer everything but here was one. This was from chase cockerel on twitter at chase cockerel one asked which receiver led the steelers in snaps. Now i actually looked this up. As was looking at receptions who led the team in receptions in case of that number will give you that information as well the player who led the st the receiver who led the steelers in receptions was juju smith schuster. Who had ninety seven and that was on one hundred twenty eight targets. He was not the most targeted receiver. That was the andre johnson. Who had eight receptions who was which was second most of the team on one hundred forty four targets but if you want to know who played the most snaps that one was also juju smith schuster. He played the regular season He played eight hundred and ten offensive snaps. The season that was about seventy four percent of the snaps offense or snaps for the steelers. And if you wanna know where that where that ranked him on the t- that actually that had him ranked fifth on the offense. He had the fifth most snaps. He had more than marquees patsy And everything else. Something here doesn't seem right because I'm going to have to look at. These numbers are are acceptable because that this percentage is might be off a little bit because alejandro villanueva. They has only eight percents. I'm looking. I'm using Pro football reference and he actually played a hundred percent of the snaps. So i can tell you right now that it was actually more seventy three percent of the snaps. And if you give me just a moment. I'm just going to have to calculate that because i couldn't trust them to do it and that calculation comes down to about eighty three percent of the snaps. But if you're wondering who else came in there. After after after juju smith schuster wide receiver wise. It was dante. Johnson was next even though he missed one full game and parts of two other games. He had the next most snaps at six hundred forty seven so he had almost What is that. that's bob over. One hundred and fifty snaps less did smith schuster and then by the auntie johnson. The next most was chase claypool with six hundred nineteen snaps And not far behind while on the list not far behind but if you look at the numbers while for behind was james washington with four hundred ten so Chase claypool at two hundred more snaps than james washington did last year. But that's where they they. All eric ebron actually had if you include him In the mix is a tight end. He would actually have had less than juju but he had more than the johnson. He would've been wedged in between there. So that was the answer to that. Question of of the most of the most snaps played in in twenty twenty by receivers. The other question that i was given. I wanna make sure i. I know who was given these questions. So i can give them. The proper credit credit was one came from from darod. This is That's dwi sable. I guess s. a. b. o. l. on twitter. He asked the question of how yes to questions so the first was how many three and outs did the steelers offense haven't twenty twenty. I was able to look that up. That was a great question. But before i did i wanted to say how many were there in the entire league now. I strictly went three plays and punt. There was a turnover. There doesn't matter if you know if there was a first down of course that didn't qualify or anything so this was three plays in punt so sometimes you get some other desirable things going on there. Defensively non desirable things offensively. 'cause i mean think about. Sometimes it's not three in out because a t one four on fourth down to get it or they turn the ball over before they got there but strictly three and outs for the season in the nfl. There were one thousand eighty three and outs so that would average by team with thirty two teams. That would that would come down to just under thirty four three and outs on the season. So that's thirty. three point. Seven five is what that is so if you look at that that means every team should have had at least two three and outs each game on average i mean when you average over the entire league is is what the average would be unfortunately for the steelers they had fifty they had fifty three amounts. I didn't go through and look at. How many each individual team add. Because i just couldn't really. That wasn't a real easy way to be able to do that. So actually it's funny. Now that i think about it. I i might have been able to do Depending on home or by filters in everything that i might have actually been able to figure that out. I wish i would have done that now. i might have to update you with that next week. But on on those drives the steelers forced eighty punts on the season eight months but and fifty of them open ended. Came on a three and out. Which if you think about that. That's kind of crazy. That's that over that over half their their punts came because they'd had a three and out that's insane so from that. I also wanted to say well. How the defense do i just took the question. A little bit farther. Say what happened with the defense with that they did. did they. Force more three and outs than what the what the offense gave up and the answer is yes they did. They did give up Force more of them because they forced fifty five three and outs on the season. Which means that and that was on eighty six punts that they forced and and that so they did even better than the offense if you look at it so it's just kind of interesting to see how that came out but that was a good question but he had to questions yet another one that wasn't is related and i thought this was pretty good and this is going to be the last one that we look at here on this episode and that was how many players drafted by the steelers in the last five. Years are still in the nfl. When it comes to that question. I actually need to. I look at it the other way around because how many players were versus. How many players weren't there. Were with the last five years so this was from two thousand sixteen on and the steelers have made. Thirty seven draft. Picks out of those thirty seven draft picks. Now not all these teams are the steelers and all these players are with the steelers. But there's only five of them who are no longer in the nfl. just five. Because yes shockingly jeff harbin's gonna love this one but he's got to know that yes call it holda. The long snapper is still in the nfl And was actually with the with the san francisco forty niners last year and i think he signed on Signed on think futures contract with With the rams that's what is he has a futures contract with the rams so he's still in the league but there are five players that are not in the league so the easiest way to do is the. Let's go back for this and we'll go through these five. And here's what's crazy about these. They are all either sixth or seventh round draft picks. They're all either six or seven two hundred six that's insane so that means anyone drafted by the steelers and the fifth round or above in the last five years is still playing in the nfl so or at least played or was with the team in some some form in two thousand and twenty so if you go back to the two thousand sixteen draft every two players that are no longer in the nfl one. Oh one was seventh. Round draft pick demarcus airs wide receiver. He was with the steelers. He played two games with the steelers. He's actually the only person on this list while he played games. I think he played yes. They were both with the steelers. He's the only player on this list. It's actually credited with playing. Nfl game the other four players did not even play that game. But the marcus. Airs was with the steelers. He chose to go sign when he didn't make the team in In two thousand seventeen he chose to not sign with the steelers practice squad and go sign with the patriots because he thought he probably had a better chance of getting bumped up to the main roster he did not. He didn't last long they didn't even last month. Spent some time on the chicago. Bears practice squad he ultimately. This was all in two thousand in two thousand seventeen. He ultimately ended up playing in the xfl and is now in the cfl in the canadian football league in that same draft. Two thousand sixteen travis feeney linebacker outside linebacker. He was on the steelers practice squad that season at the end of the year. Got poached by the saints. Now what we mean by poached is at the end of the year sometimes if teams feel like they have an a a viable spot on their fifty three man roster though look at other teams practice squad guys signed them at the end of the year and then that way they have them going into the next year. That's what happened to feeney. But then he got cut in the off season never ended up back in the nfl. He did play a f- before it collapsed and he's also playing in the canadian football league. Now two thousand seventeen kion atoms linebacker seventh round draft. Pick He was he was with the steelers on the practice squad. He was released in twenty nineteen and ended up with with the giants and then ended up when i are. He's also the canadian football league in two thousand eighteen seventh round draft. Pick joshua frazier did not make the steelers roster or practice squad that year. He ended up the lines. Practice squad for I think it was four weeks maybe And then was released. He played in the af and then he announced his official retirement from football in two thousand nineteen but I don't know that anyone was knocking down his door. And then the the the fifth player is sutton smith from two thousand and nineteen. He was a sixth round draft pick. He spent time on three different practice. Squads and twenty nine thousand nine one of which was the steelers. I remember he was signed for a day at one. Point brought back for a day and then released and then was brought back again. He was on jacksonville's practice squad. He was on seattle's practice squad. He was not with any team in two thousand and twenty even with expanded practice squads. He was not anywhere that i could see. He had played at all. So i don't know if he's still tried for the nfl or not so. That's only five players out of thirty seven draft in the last five years that are not in the nfl anymore. All the rest of them in the league so out of thirty seven thirty three of them have played in at least one. Nfl game which you when you think about that is fairly impressive. So that was that was the questions makes you keep them coming if Stl or superfan dad at twitter. Stl are superfan data at mail dot com by keep looking for those stats question. Those are great. Thanks for tune in here with me. This morning i feel really bad. That i didn't look up. And see where the steelers ranked with a number of three and outs they add. I gotta bring you that one next week. Because that's when i'm even more curious about rather than just the number but where that put them in the nfl so I just gotta make noted that make sure bring that back to you but make sure you're checking out all the audio pod podcast that we have on our platform. I'm sure you stumbled onto this one. You've probably listen the other ones you know you got jeff harbin's ride let's ride a forever said it's part of his rider die crew. I have to be part of that crew. I listen to every single one of his podcasts. I try to listen to every podcast for bt se. I can't always catch them all. But that's but that let's ride is one that i don't miss so we got our. Our youtube shows their audio platform. As well makes you check those out. And of course by mr curtain dot com. It's your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers he come with the questions. It's a long offseason. We gotta figure out what kind of numbers we wanna talk about week in and week out so hopefully this kind of helped explain a little bit of what happened throughout the steelers season. Hopefully you weren't too upset by my frustration at the beginning that yes. We can look at the whole season and we don't have to focus on what happened in that season game in order to do everything they can to build on what the steelers did and twenty twenty so once again. Thanks for the most important a row.

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The Mike Tomlin Press Conference Recap: Week 13 vs. the Washington Football Team

Behind the Steel Curtain

13:41 min | 7 months ago

The Mike Tomlin Press Conference Recap: Week 13 vs. the Washington Football Team

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Becky that podcast. After the game on wednesday night. Mike tomlin was not very happy with his team's performance even though they were able to escape with a nineteen to fourteen win over the baltimore ravens at heinz field depleted ravens roster at that and mike tomlin started off the press conference in a positive light. I'm pretty sure that he probably looked back at his his knee jerk reaction to the game and it was a very poor one in regards to all demeanor being positive or negative. It was negative. He was mad. He was upset. He didn't like the way the team played rightfully so and so we decided to start the press conference off with some positives. He said he felt that he neglected some good things. That happened on the field. We twelve. He mentioned benny snell and that he had running the football. Especially in the second half in in the fourth quarter mainly. He talked about how he took care of the football member. Snell's the one that had the fumbling issues earlier this season any mention how he was smart enough to stay in bounds on a couple occasions to keep the clock running. Those are really really smart. Plays their heads up plays. They're a place showed that a football player is maturing in the proper way so he gave a lot of kudos to benny snell for those things. Then he went to talk about james washington the combat catch the combat catch that he made in the fourth quarter on third down. He mentioned eric ebron early in the game. Really playing well and he's at juju. Smith schuster was bad as steady as it comes when it comes to the receiving corps he also gave props jc hassen our the center. Who stepped in for markey's pouncey which it was only a few hours before kick-off when everyone found out that pouncey was going to be placed on the covid nineteen reserve list therefore was ineligible to play on wednesday and has stepped in filled in admirably. All things considered If the team is going to be without pounds. Ian james conner which tomlin said. He doesn't know they're just going. They're going to get him back when they get him back. He said that it's going to be a different story with. Hassanari is not going to be thrust into the starting position. He rothlisberger will have more of a a better idea as to what's going to be coming up. Defensively said he thought that the defense came out of the gate strong sometimes he mentioned how when you have a lull in the schedule whether it's a bye week or you get as many buys. After a thursday game. He said he was impressed. With how the steelers defense came out of the gate strong. They provided short field to the offense in the even score points by joe. Hayden's pick six He didn't stay on the baltimore game too long. He moved onto the washington. The washington football team is gonna come into pittsburgh on monday. As i said at the beginning of this podcast a five pm kickoff at heinz field is diligently have two home games remaining they have the game against washington and then they have the game against the indianapolis colts in week. Sixteen So he talked about how the defense for washington starts up front. He mentioned the edge rushers. Mainly chase young. Who's a rookie out of ohio. State looks really really good. He's into their opportunistic in the back end. That's very much a ron rivera. jack del rio. Who's the defensive coordinator those are very much stylistic things for them and how. They like to have their defenses play. He said they run a lot of mixtures of manned defense zone concepts in. They do get after the quarterback in a stop the run. This defense that they're about to play is probably out of baltimore's is the closest comparison to the steelers They rank similarly Did they get into the sax there there among the top. Five in the nfl. Getting after the quarterback so this is going to be a challenge to the steelers. Offense are gonna require their full attention for sure. Offensively said alex smith talked about it. He respects the resume. The story cities a champion and a lot of ways really glowing remarks about alex smith and his journey back to the national football but after alex smith who later in the press conference he was asked about smith's game play in in house. He seen a change since the last time they met face them which was in kansas city in the playoffs. I believe that was in two thousand and sixteen. He's look he's alex. Smith is thirty six years old. He said he's a different quarterback. Ben rothlisberger different quarterback whether that's due to the injury or father time that's not up to him to decide but yeah there are differences just like every quarterback that gets older but he mentioned antonio gibson the running back and really how the red scam. Sorry not the redskins. That's a that i apologize. It's old habits. Die hard The washington football team. They use all three of their running back very very well and he mentioned the young wide receiving corps. They have with a lot of people. Think maybe outside of pittsburgh the best young wide receiving corps in the national football league. But the steelers do have an ace up their sleeve. In that is ike hilliard. No he's not playing but he coached that team last season. He coached that unit. He's gonna know exactly what they do. Well what they struggle with what they liked to do their tendencies. That's going to be very useful tool for the pittsburgh steelers as they prepare on a short week for washington. Come to heinz field. He did get to injuries eventually. Mike tomlin only starts off the press conference with injuries. But he did not do that. In this Thursday press conference. He did say he confirmed. The bud. dupree is out for the rest of the season with a knee. Injury did not say acl but he did say he was out for the season. He said it's a tough blow for the team because everyone loves bud. Dupree is a player in a person. It's just tough to see that happen. I did not say when he's going to have surgery wasn't sure of that just yet but he did know the bud dupree is out confirmed then he did say that the the as he loves to say quote unquote bumps and bruises associated with the game of football. He mentioned steven nelson. Steven nelson was able to play on wednesday. He got through the gamy. I didn't see him leave But he said he had a knee. Injury was going to require an m. r. i. Today thursday so with that. We don't know exactly what that injury details. We don't know what that if is so severe injury. Is it a minor injury. No one knows but it was the least significant enough for the pittsburgh steelers organization to say. Let's go get checked out. Let's go get an mri done just to make sure. The first reported practice for the steelers will be on friday. That's going to be a good opportunity for them to work for us. I should say dec- whereas even nelson in regards to you know busy practicing. He not practicing stay tuned behind the curtain dot com for all the latest on that the first question that might tommy was asked about what were the drops. The wide receiving corps had at least at least five drops may be upwards of seven or eight depending on what you categorize as a drop and he said look. It's a useful group young group. There's a variance in performance. It comes with that they have to keep working. Keep getting better. He s did he has to be thinking that he hopes his this is a one game. Thing i'm sure that the the receivers are going to be focusing. Maybe a little bit more than they usually do on the fundamentals a little bit better. He was asked about alex. High smith who obviously is going to be the main man stepping in to fill in for bud dupree hitting. It's going to be a mixture of high smith. Anna lead any. But mike tomlin was very confident in highsmith. He's i was. I'm confident in highsmith. Like i was confident in roberts. Filleting filling in for devon bush in kevin dotson filling in for david decastro so in that regard. He's confident highsmith. He said he's a diligent worker. Exciting excited to watch his maturation him. Get experience as a rookie. In later in the press conference was asked again about high smith and he just he talked about his maturity level. as he's a fifth year senior charlotte's they normally don't draft players. That are that old but he said he just really liked that. He's got a lot of growth in growing in his resume in from when he walked on at charlotte until his senior season so he loved it. I loved those aspects. And he's hoping to see that growth continue in the national football league with the pittsburgh steelers speaking of debris being out for the year he was asked about. We'll do pres absence. Hinder tj watts production. On the other side he said tj wad doesn't need any assistance players like that do not need any assistance. They will go out and make plays on the road. So there you go a case your concern about markey's pouncey and james conner about the coming off the kobe lists. He said they'll get them back when they get him back. He did say that some of the run game struggles because baltimore is such a tough defense to diagnose from a three snap standpoint not having pouncey in there certainly did probably played a role has a good job but again he was thrust into that starting lineup game day so i'm sure that they're going to be better prepared next week with has now at least going into it thinking he's going to be the starter said possibly had not having pouncey was a significant loss for the steelers. Obviously talked about the you know. Is it a positive in the short week for the steelers to have short we coming off an ugly game with a beat the ravens but it was not pretty look. We don't want to run away from a bad game. He's we're not. We're not the type of team just wants to turn the page and burn the tape. They wiped dwell on it. That was his quote. They dwell on it for a little bit so these they're going to definitely dive into the game and figure out what went wrong and as a coach. You understand that as someone and if anyone's coached competitive sport whether it's high school or higher you sometimes understand that bad games even if you can still win those games even better. But sometimes it's bad games are the most teachable moments. He was asked about comparing this young wide receiving corps all of them in their first contract. You think about juju. Smith schuster. James washington diontae johnson chase claypool comparing them to the old young money crew. In that was mike wallace emmanuel sanders in antonio brown Back in the day even though there with old man hines ward at the time and he said that he doesn't want to compare the two groups. Easy you're talking about guys like antonio and emmanuel sanders. Who have done a lot in the league. Mike wallace has had a very impressive resume in his time in the nfl. He's that type of talent is what they have right now but they're still writing their story so in regards to this young money two point. Oh he's not gonna go there because he can't go there he did. They have to prove for longer than just a few years or a season. And that's going to be obviously down the road. The lastly the he was asked about the sack streak. This dealers are threatening to have the longest streak in nfl history with a recorded sack contest. In one of the teams up. There might be i. I'm not if as dave scofield. Isn't the team that might thomas was on the coaching staff done in tampa bay with tony dungee and that was the tampa bay defence. And they were. He said that he sees a lot of similarities. Between that defense at wanna super bowl and this defense and he he went on to talk about the quality pass rushers he. He mentioned warren sapp simeon. Rice he's we had others they were great pass rushers but they were great. Pass rushers together. It it's the same thing that they have here in pittsburgh with guys like t j Tj watt cam. Heyward steph onto it in bud dupree when he was healthy. They're all good pass rushers but they pass rush well together meaning. They're not just doing their own thing. They know what each other's doing they have their lanes. They have the responsibilities in all execute. He said that it's an impressive streak. It's it's an impressive comparison comparing this steelers defense that tampa bay defence but ultimately. He thinks it's very much deserving for this steelers defense but there you have it was not a long press conference obviously coach tomlin and is coaching staff. Have a lot of work to do as they after. Have a quick turnaround to get ready for the washington football team that come to pittsburgh in week thirteen. I know it's thursday. It's going to be very quick turnaround. But we're going to have everything for you that you could ever want leading up to this game on behind the steel curtain. Not only on the website behind this curtain dot com. Which should be your one. Stop shop for all things steelers but anywhere. You get your podcasts. Google play itunes apple. Podcast itch or anchor pandora spotify you name it. Find us at steelers. You can search behind the steel curtain subscribed. Follow whatever you have to do so that you don't miss a thing folks wrap for this thursday edition of mike tomlin press conference recap podcast geoff hartman. Co editor binding steel curtain dot com as always be safe. Be kind in. God bless is dealers.

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Snell, Freeman, Hinton, Wilkins and More: Making Sense of Today's News (11/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

13:19 min | 7 months ago

Snell, Freeman, Hinton, Wilkins and More: Making Sense of Today's News (11/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Saturday night toda's pod talking fantasy football here at a mazer jamie is. They got a lot of questions we figured might as well. Just do this podcast. Hopefully we'll help you give you some good advice fingers crossed. There's a lot of question marks out there right now. Jamie let's go Situation by situation first of all if you don't have a commissioner who a nice enough to let you substitute steelers ravens if the game gets canceled. Do you just basically have to say or. Do you think they're gonna play that game. I think they're going to play that game. But obviously there's you know positive tests positive cases popping up with the steelers Today obviously james conner being the the big one so if they get more positive cases the game could obviously be in jeopardy. But i mean we've seen with the nfl's done so far. They've tried to push through as much as they can. And so if they have enough healthy body on both. I mean no. We're going to talk about the situation over. There never would have met and they're gonna play this game on tuesday. I hope so. Yeah i mean. I hope we get that game in. It's going to be tuesday night as of now okay. So let's talk about that. Ravens steelers game he goes. Yes picking up. Benny snell was a very good idea. Anthony mcfarland might not be a terrible idea also because connors going to miss two games right i think so it's it's clearly not defined yet but the fact that they play five days after playing tuesday i don't think he's going to be able to play against washington in week. Thirteen okay so ranks running backs in that game. Now snell edwards mcfarland justice. Even though we'll jail see tip about justice hill yeah. I just think you know that. There's a clear indication of what the ravens have done with gus edwards in two games without mark ingram Double digit carries. So i mean maybe justice still has a good opportunity here but i i just. I'm not to start. If i told you that juju smith schuster was going to have one catch for eight yards. Would you start him over. Jerry jeudy too i. Yes the broncos quarterback for the broncos so obviously you know we could we could we. We're pretty upfront with our audience. Our listeners i mean you. Our texting We both commissioned leagues. I i stole your commissioner. Because i thought it was very eloquent in perfect and all. Thank you Well said so. I took your one commissioner message and they used it for all ten of my notice. I didn't read it. I didn't bother re to get. I knew it by heart I changed. I changed one thing. I added to note in there in any event Texting and i'm in the middle of updating my rankings. As i say hey do you wanna podcast and so. I got through the reason that i was probably a minute late. While you're waiting for me was i wanted to finish my non rankings. So those are done. But i had to pull all the broncos receivers out of my my rank list. And i'll tell you what i had a feeling this morning that all of my noah noah thank you comments on north fant. We're gonna come back to bite me. Now you've got a bunch of tweets saying no thank you. We still started noah. Fant can't start anyone. No wrong right now except for kindle in you know i'm a little i i'm kind of thinking maybe a boost for melvin gordon. Maybe phillip lindsay. There obviously just going to take anybody else. Would you say if they were playing anybody else. I yeah okay all right. So so kendall hinton is going to play quarterback. Is that the situation now. That's the indication so it was very funny because And i saw your tweet. There are people. Obviously who like first-come-first-serve waivers in there are people that clearly hate it. Oh my gosh. People kill people killed me for my tweet really mean about it well. You're not the only person there's some other fantasy analysts tweeting the same thing. But i think you know for people that do have the opportunity to use i. I must have made like fifty transaction today and in a span of about ten minutes picked up. Freeman dropped race and picked up kendall held hidden. And i think he's going to be good do you. So kendall hill. Hinton is going to play quarterback for the broncos that's the as a wide receiver we don't know i mean we don't know how much quarterback he's gonna play. There is talk. That royce freeman was gonna just wild rumors. I guess he was just gonna wildcat it. So people picked him up then. They picked up hint. So where did you rank. Kendall hinton among wide receivers twenty-five wow really. I mean we just saw what takes him. Hill was tight. I know but i felt more comfortable about tastes hill. Plan for been staying as the quarterback thousand. I i really don't know what to do with this. It's one of those things where you know if he's if he attempts fifteen twenty passes right and he's going to run because he's a running quarterback he ran away force. So if you get thirty to fifty yards rushing which i don't think is crazy if you get a hundred and fifty yards passing. I don't think that's crazy if he's allowed to throw. Yeah i'm i'm thinking he's gonna score single digit points and he's not gonna have any catches you wouldn't think so that's going to hurt him off. They run the wildcat. He's on the field. They will probably with him. I would think well they can run it with freemen. This is wild. So you're starting over like tonio browde while this is so tough. I mean again. If he's a quarterback you saw what taste of milk could be. But he doesn't. He doesn't really play quarterback i it's so gimmicky and he hasn't doesn't practice. Then you have no idea. I mean they could say look he. Obviously if they tried to run a wildcat offense they try to do something crazy they have to throw the ball at some point. During the game we gotta. I'm sure i'll find out more about this. But i don't understand why they were given the option to forfeit all four broncos. Quarterbacks are not playing in the broncos are not going to forfeit. why can't they just postpone the game. I don't understand what is going on here but the window out another week dude. They should add three weeks. They should pushed the season back. If they have to let these games get played let. Let's do it safely. i mean this is. I don't know it seems a little wacky to me. But i digress. That's topic for another day. All right. so that's the broncos. That's the steelers the colts. What are you doing about jonathan taylor. He's out who's the best running back there. You have to go to ninety hines least. That's the way our approach. It and then. Jordan wilkins is know more of a flex. But i mean you you kind of see what nights borderline starter jordan. More flex Obviously heinz field a little bit safer and pbr. The nice thing is you saw these teams play two weeks ago. And now he mind was the star. So you know i. I be shocked if they go completely away from what what worked for them a couple of weeks ago. The only thing would if. They wanna put wilkins into taylor's role after what taylor did last week but both guys are gonna play To what degree they succeed. I don't know. I would guess that wilkins has the better chance to score. So he's better than pr highs will be on the field for all their passing down situations. So i'd lean toward heinz's is based on what we've seen from him recently. Would you start hines or hinton at flex would you start wilkins or hinton at flex i started pure. Would you start hinting or benny snell. Third benny snell okay. And and ekeler is to play jamie. So where does he you know he's expected to play. Where's he going to. The nice thing is obviously there are west coast team. They're playing at one o'clock eastern tomorrow because there in buffalo. So you're gonna know if active just because he's all fired is not mean. He's going to be acted that still something that we have to wait to find out is active than i think. You gotta assume that. He's going to play sixty percent of the snaps. Sixty five percent of the snaps. Maybe more better than everyone we've spoken about. I haven't right now. Ranked ahead of those guys So you know if they're gonna play him and he's going to be active. I think he just take the risk of that. He's going to be out there doing what he typically does so you know clearly again better than pr. The non pr but This backfield has been very successful. The last three weeks kaelin balaj and so the bills defense we know without matt milano. They're they're different teams. Things can be good opportunity for fees ekeler to produce at a high level. And that's going to do it for this little emergency show. I tweeted referencing. This this is one of the craziest as i can remember in fantasy. Football makes me wonder. If every league should have nightly waivers slash fab instead of first-come-first-served add drops excluding sunday doesn't seem fair that the person who gets the push notification has the edge and A lot of people really like. I did get Some support but a stop crying get push push notifications. This is funny. My grandpa and his blackberry agree with you. I have i get the notifications. But i i just don't think it's fair. I have tasted hill in like four leagues. Because i got the notification. And i don't know if that's the right thing i don't know if that's fair i mean you know i'm trying to be fair here. Not not the only one complaining about it and i understand you know. Look a this all happened on a saturday. You know for us that we do this. That's really our data detox. You know from from work for a minute. Yeah right by the way somebody tweeted. Who j. b. eisenberg take from you. This time lane of interests has been great. Um you get i. I do with my kids. And you know. I see the tweets and text from Our colleagues we gotta pull this guy rankings By the way we should talk about quickly. But okay there's It's just the nature of how your league is set up if you don't like it. Make a make. A formal complaint commission will change it next year. Yellow is doubtful so hello ryan fitzpatrick god. He's the top twelve quarterback from this week. Nice demonte parker said this on either friday shores our mailbag showed that He's a top fifteen wide receiver so consecutive somebody. I think that's in play as well. So i think those guys get a boost and fitzpatrick obviously gets a boost and then for the dolphins running back situation. We have no idea what's going to happen there because savant akhmed has been ruled out. I think we said that. On saturday show but Matt breda patrick laird malcolm perry and i think they still haven't decided fully myles gaskin is no. They haven't haven't made the call. Far as i think they would have to activate them. No right yes they would have to activate him but still telling me on ira. So i guess there's no myles gasping so maybe it would be the one i think you you look for. So if you couldn't get all these guys. Now wilkins brain hill talk. Oh not playing sunday. I'm sorry myles gaskin not playing sunday. Gotcha right so yeah. Matt brita would be the one. Thank you okay. Great all right. Hey this is the week of frank gore and not so much anymore but bad breed. A map is still not clear. That's true you know there was optimism. But we'll see about that but map does a solid player. I mean that that's not that's really not a bad call and and somebody that i'll probably be looking at right now. So all right thanks. Everybody thinks you listening to let me go. Look for that okay. I've just so over it over. I'm frustrated this is really frustrating. Didn't talk brian hill. Did we damn it. We didn't talk about brian hill. Where's he with all these guys. He is behind snow behind. Heinz for this week. I would put him ahead of jordan wilkins. But you know it's going to see how they use him. He wasn't great last year. Remember he started. He wasn't freeman. Yeah he carries for sixty one yards and caught a ten yard touchdown in the first game. I forget the opponent the second game. I think he had fifteen carries for thirty yards so he has not great at all. But you know the falcons score touchdowns. What about dottie hinson or brian hill i would actually go within in pbr. For sure. And you know against wrist. Hidden is a complete walker. Absolutely complete wockhardt. So i apologize in advance. If you guys get bernie listen to me but anytime you get a non quarterback playing quarterback you gotta take advantage of that. Yeah well you can't on espn by the way. He's on waivers until thursday and he's only quarterback eligible. I believe that's that's what my friend texted me. He asked me who start. I said hit it. I try to pick a bobby-socksers. Actually i thought was. Got fish of scott fishbowl Friend who program he said you ought to be a thousand was. Thanks for listening everybody. I'm going to go back to cook dinner. Enjoy your saturday. We'll give you another update sunday morning on fantasy football today.

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Steelers 2020 Training Camp Recap: Day 3

Behind the Steel Curtain

12:54 min | 10 months ago

Steelers 2020 Training Camp Recap: Day 3

"In. Sports betting dime DOT COM provides the coverage fans need to bet with confidence every time. Find the best odds track key trends and make smarter bets on all your favorite sports. Check it out sports betting dime DOT COM. Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant It's conversational I designed to work for any industry. Let's put smarter work visit, IBM DOT COM Slash Watson Assistant. Let's Berg. steeler fans. Welcome back to another training camp recap. Day Three. I know I did say way back when two days ago. Maybe not so way back when. That if the steelers did not have padded practice, we would not be doing recap podcast. Well here I am. They didn't have a pater- practice and here I am. Which means it would the non padded practice were? Is it unpatented practice? anyways The steelers still did get working. There were still some news they came out of some really good news by the way a came out of this particular practice session in I do believe if my sources are correct the tomorrow Thursday, the steelers will be off meaning. We won't have one of these training camp recaps tomorrow nonetheless. Get to the news and see what happened were here. What happened? Let's get off on the right foot. The good news Mike Tomlin after practice met with media in his now typical zoom session. Stated that the two injuries the DAX. Raymond tight end newly-acquired in the off season. and. Fourth. Round Pick Kevin Dodson out of Louisiana Lafayette both were injured on Tuesday with lower body injuries. Raymond was an ankle Dodson was in e. I think an all everyone looked at this situation. They felt the same Dodson's was more serious. That's what the overarching thought was. Mike Tomlin says. Both seem to be in what he called short-term meaning that this is going to be a short term injury. That's good news. The problem is, is that neither of these players? Can stand to have any injuries if they have a shot at actually getting on the field this year now I think it's understood that Kevin Dodson his rookie was probably not going to play much his first year in the League as a professional unless there were a lot of injuries to players above him but nonetheless, development is important and he would be missing out on a lot of that development if. He's not available seems like he'll be available maybe. You know practice guy or maybe a guy that just doesn't dress on game days, but it seems like he'll be available. Now Dax Raymond on the other hand, he is potentially vying for the third tight end position. I don't know if that's GONNA work out very well for him. Considering the steelers just worked out a tight end today, which makes you think that maybe this ankle injury to high angle injury. That could be a long term injury. We're talking weeks not just a couple of days. If that's the case, it looks like it could be the end of the road for Raymond in maybe they bring in this new player you can read that article is written by my co editor Dave Scofield on behind the steel curtain dot com it's up there as you listen. To this so good news though both those players having short term injuries. That's good news that is good news. The steelers don't have anyone in the cove reserve list. There were no new injuries of note, it seemed like everything so far. So good knock on wood on the injury front for the Pittsburgh steelers. So what else happened in a non padded practice? Well I mean a lot of people were wondering you know what's going to be happening with The the well, why are they not even have pads on? That's a good question. Mike. Tomlin answer that question in his post game press conference he said they went with helmets only today focused on passing in defensive coverage. That was the focus of today's workout. So in other words, he said Tomlin that is. They were GONNA go with basically shoulder pads, badge just really just helmets and they're going to work on throwing. So they did drills like two minute drill. They did a lot of one on ones in the outside and entertaining practice for those that were allowed to be there in other words there weren't a lot of people there to watch it but some notes, the two minute drill was capped off by a touchdown by I almost feel guilty saying it at this point, Ryan Switzer Ryan Switzer caught the touchdown pass folks and I know there's a lot of people out there listening they're cringing they're cringing and they're just saying Oh. Gosh are you serious? Air From all reports from the people that are there live. Bryan Switzer has had a really good training camp so far he looks good in the offense. He looks good is return man he looks like he's earning his spot. On the team whether you like it or not whether you like it or not. That is what is really happening. So other news that happened today lot of news came before practice even started believe it or not. Because there wasn't a lot of talk after the practice itself regards to what there was. No backs on backers. There was no live tackling drills obviously but you know we did hear from some steelers that we hadn't really heard from in a while notably Benny Snell junior. Benny salesman quiet. Benny Snell yeah. Benny Smell football. Whatever he's calling himself in the third. person. He seemed pretty quiet when you listen to the interview and you need got to see exactly what are you? He was not the it was not a boastful player. It was a player that was all business they asked to make Benny how are you? GonNa protect yourself from the risks of coronavirus covid nineteen. He says located simple I go I go to work and I go home that's it. was really interesting. Was the fact that any Snell said he lost twelve pounds this off season I believe he went from about two, twenty, four, two to twelve. For the common person they might say while. A big deal for an elite athlete. Yeah. That's a big deal. If you pay attention to, you'll see the this has been a trend with running backs under the Mike Tomlin era whether it was lady on. Who came in was focused on bigger stronger going into the league. He was told to cut weight in his second years when he's still get step forward, believe it or not. James Connor was the same way came in as a rookie wanted to get bigger thought that was what was necessary in reality what they need is a higher level of conditioning speed and agility Benny Snell didn't have a horrible rookie year, but he definitely could have taken a step forward. I him losing weight. All accounts are the he looks a lot faster his lateral speed which he lacked in the past looks really good. I think that Snell could be a really good complementary back. The question is of James Connor are gonNA. Say Jeff I think he meant to say when James Connor gets her Ken Benny Snow Carry Load, and that's to be determined. What else is interesting? We also heard from steph onto another player that has been relatively quiet other than the fact that Steph onto it has been very outward about his stance on national anthem protests and things of that nature. He talked a lot about his rehabilitation. This is a player that was really dominant. You can go back and check I did a whole podcast on Stefan to being the Superman. This defense needs on my let's ride show. You can go check that out and he really talked about. The fact that I I didn't realize this but he the steelers would have made the playoffs last year he was probably going to join the team. This was the same thing I'm sorry JJ WATT DJ JJ. Watt did for the Texans last year. During his pack having surgically repaired in being able to return in the postseason unfortunately, the steelers did not make that. They obviously did not make that jump. They did not make the postseason and therefore. There you have. It wasn't able to return, but he says, it is pack his chest muscle as strong as ever. And he's been leaning on Cam. Hayward a lot during his rehabilitation. Why Because Cam Hayward suffered this injury just a few years ago. So he's been talking with canvas what he's done. Getting some tips from him probably talking about maybe what he's feeling in terms of range of motion. Hey you feel on this is this normal all that good stuff, but steph onto it. He did talk about the anthem and said that he's basically he's going to stand for the anthem whatever your thoughts and feelings are they are they are that these are his but he's really excited to get back out there. I'm sure that he's a player that is itching to get back on the football field just cannot wait to get back on the football field because as I said podcasts last week. He was dominant in just as six games that he played before. He hurt himself actually hurt himself tackling Philip rivers. So take take that for what it's worth and the other player did a person I should say we heard from Ryan Switzer and Danny Smith special teams coach. Danny Smith talked a lot about the rookies getting special teams. Look really excited about chase clay was a special teams player. Ryan Switzer talked a lot about trust he admitted that he gets a lot of hate a lot of vitriol on social media. He doesn't pay attention to it. He says the only people I have to please are my God, my wife and my employer, and so he wants to. He was asked straight up a lot of people say, well, it's Ben's buddy. He's GonNa make the team they basically asked McKay people's been saying this what are your responsibilities that I wanna prove Ben Right he said it doesn't hurt that you have influenced from people above you and Ben would obviously be that person. And he wants to prove Rothlisberger vouching for him. Right he wants to come out and prove it. He doesn't just get a spot because he's Ben's buddy, but he gets a spot because he earns it he gets a spot because he deserves it and that's what it looks like is happening. He's doing a great job so far all accounts like I said earlier are that he is looking the part. As a potential option in the slot for the steelers and Mike Tomlin spoke about Switzerland, his post practice press conference and said, he's been watching Switzer from the slot since his days in North Carolina going to pit to play the panthers at Heinz Field. So he knows what he's capable of they kept him around for a reason fans may not like him, but you might WanNa get used to him because I don't think he's going anywhere. Again I think tomorrow Thursday unless they change the schedule which that could happen. This schedule is subject to change. The Pittsburgh steelers should be off, which means we will have a training camp recap for the following day one sows pads, come back on or once they get back on the practice field, you will hear from me Jeff Hartman Co editor of behind the curtain dot Com giving you all the latest news of the day whether it's just a couple interviews or whether. It's about Tj Wadden Zach banner going head to head and having some strong disagreements quote unquote as they did two days ago with that said, make sure wherever you're listening to this in podcast form whether it's I tunes Google play stitcher anchor spotify follow the show make sure that you subscribe. Give us a good five star rating in a good common. If you listen on itunes and make sure you check out behind the steel curtain dot com for all your Pittsburgh steelers needs. I'm Jeff Hartmann we'll see you later. 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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: The Off Day Debrief reacts to the Giants loss

Big Blue View

07:01 min | 9 months ago

FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: The Off Day Debrief reacts to the Giants loss

"Sports betting dime DOT COM provides the coverage fans need to bet with confidence every time find the best odds track key trends and make smarter bets on all your favorite sports. Check it out sports betting dime DOT COM. The following segment is from the off day debrief on the SP nation NFL show where we're discussing your favorite team subscribe to the nation NFL show to make sure you don't miss conversations like this one. Let's start with the Monday night football games. I'm going to start with the early game Pittsburgh against the giants. The steelers look good they win twenty, six, thirteen Ben Rothlisberger is back. He throws three touchdowns is all well and Pittsburgh I think it is that the rumors of Ben Rothlisberger demise have been greatly exaggerated. Skepticism about him coming into the season he's thirty years old he's coming off injury doesn't have any more. He still has three touchdowns some point, two yards per reception one, hundred, seventeen point passer rating and he's this is a nice cast around him. Benny Snell running back James Washington Doodoo Smith Schuster tastes label like you can kind of play a little bit We obviously also that catch along the sideline just fantastic. Yeah I think obviously the defense is good too. So I mean you you pair Big Ben even if he's not as good. As long as he's fine, they're still gonNA win a lot of games with that defense. I feel good about the steelers I, have them six over also I'm feeling pretty good. What about you? Look. This is the team that could disrupt everything in the AFC right? Like everyone's sort of kind of just handing the AFC either Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson like no no no this is the steelers. This is the team that could blow this all up. If ben is anything close to this consistently. Look out because like you said that defense is in Saint Saquon Barkley had six yards. If teen carries that's point. Four yards a carry. That's insane. The really good and I was saying it like heading into the season, the trackers they're you know they haven't had this losing season since two, thousand, three like the steelers are just they're good. They're good franchise and obviously Mike Tomlin did a great job with that team last year when they had nothing at quarterback and they still you know what they went eight games. And now you're back and I feel really good about Pittsburgh. Obviously you know we'll have to see them go up against those legitimate teams in the AFC before you know we can. We can certainly put them above those in the chiefs and the Ravens 'cause you know they beat a pretty bad team on Monday night football and it wasn't perfect but I still I, just I really do feel good about their outlook. And on other side for the giants like. There's nothing good to say like I'm sorry I don't see it with Daniel Johns I'm sorry and. You know the decision to pick saquon Barkley in two, thousand, eighteen I crushed it at the time you have the second overall pick in a quarterback rich draft and you take a running back and how's that turned out and Saquon Barkley is awesome. He's everything that you could have hoped he would be but they don't support him. They don't give him a line they don't give them anything and he's doing nothing for that team right now. I WANNA steal a phrase from your co hosts that you cheated on me with on Thursdays on the NFL show I at Valentine. He said new giants look a lot like the giants and yeah, they do. They're not good still who could have seen that coming Like you said Dave Gettleman, just not the brightest guy not the smart doesn't make the smartest decisions and see I disagree with you a little bit I'm Daniel Jones like. I can see it with him like there's there's moments where he does some really nice things the Mike Okay I kind of like I can see something there you know it's not like and we'll get to it later but to me like Dwayne Haskins like I just don't see it at all I don't get it. I get what they like about Daniel Jones but I mean the turnovers are just killer i. mean he the one interception he threw. down in go or around down at the to get a touchdown their second down it's second down and he's like he's getting hit and he's just lofting the ball into the endzone. What are you doing like play smart throw it away like this isn't down. This isn't the game on the line like just totally reckless decision and Yeah. But that's what you're GonNa get what they do. So that's part of the problem that's that's you know the the turnovers are just there that was a nineteen play drive. They ended it with that, which is I mean if you get a few goal. At the end of the nineteen play drive, there's value there. You're resting your defense you wearing out the other teams defense to get nothing and turn the ball over is just completely disheartening and you said, you see what there is just to like about Daniel Jones. Can you tell me what it is because here's what I see. I see a guy who puts the ball on the ground constantly and turn the ball over, and you could say look other than those turnovers he was great. But sometimes being a quarterback is all about the worst thing that you do and the worst thing that Daniel. Jones does lose his games I e because he turns it over. Yeah and if you know this is kind of almost like Carson wentz discussing near to where it's like you know you see the high points in your tantalized by those. I mean I just thought he had some really good passes and game when you give them clean pocket and he's back there and he Can Sling it, and he can throw with accuracy. Just the tools are there, and if somehow the giants can coach those turnovers out of him and they might not be able to be the might just always be there and that's an issue but it's like it's the. If you know if they can just do that. There's something there. There's talent there to work with and. You. Know they might never reach that point but and look you know obviously I'd I'd rather not admit this. I would love to make fun of the giants for for Jeff Indiana. Jones, I did when they did and I would love for there to be nothing there. But. I just think there is there's something there. Maybe it's there, but I don't see you. He's got to win me over and I'm definitely not there yet. I feel like he's got a lose you. So we're on opposite ends of that spectrum. Good. Make sure you don't miss our next conversation by subscribing to the SP nation NFL show wherever you get your podcasts. 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BTSC Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 1: The Steelers got it wrong against Cincy

Behind the Steel Curtain

36:15 min | 6 months ago

BTSC Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 1: The Steelers got it wrong against Cincy

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The pittsburgh steelers failed to hit twenty points again. They turn the ball over three in the first quarter. Ben rothlisberger looks absolutely inadequate via quarterback in the national football league. In the first half there is a lot to digest from this. But i wanna make something very clear before i bring my code. We are not experts here okay. None of claim to be none of us ever suggested that we were. We are fans and we are as off as you are. That are watching or listening to us right now so we all have frustration. Where all looking for answers. That's what we try to do here as we break down the game with that being said let's bring on bryan. Anthony davis or podcast producer. What's going on brian. Why don't drink hannah. that's great question. I mean i might start you know horrendous. I mean it's not going to be hard. I mean can tell you my grades now. But i don't want to ruin the show but they're not as let's put it that way Get horrible effort. No urgency on. I'm upset in fact i'm angry. Plus this destroyed a little girl an eleven year old girl in my house. And it's out. Tell you about that really fast. Just might give us some levity because the entire game she was scared to death the steelers. We're gonna lose because her fish was going to die because last week. The steelers lost a buffalo. The next day her fish died the other fishes in look in that good so she's thinking the beta is going to die now because they lost she was inconsolable and i was like oh my gosh i mean this is watching her and trying to get her through this and trying to watch this crap on my television. This is torture. Yeah absolutely dave scofield's cutter on current. What's up dave. let's go to bed now. i got a message from my sister partway through the game. And she's like. This is why. I'm glad i'm not like you and i don't have to work by watching the steelers. I can go to bed and not have to watch this anymore. And i was quite envious because yeah. It's one of those games where you wanted to just turn it off. Turn off. But i want to start this. Podcast off not railing on about the steelers. I want to send an. I'll speak for dave and brian here. I want to send our personal regards to the family of kevin greene. Whether it's you know the his his wife has his wife has children Such a horrible horrible news story. You have to write today this afternoon evening. When news broke that had fifty eight years old. Kevin greene. that's right the hall of famer. didn't play long in pittsburgh but he was a steelers. Legend in the hall of honor. was a part of that unbelievable blitzburgh defense in the nineties I think i speak for everyone. We say your thoughts and prayers are with the green family Just it it. Kinda dad news really hit me in the nuts. Put it that way. And i didn't even really feel like watching football that much because i just kept on thinking like man. This is just awful. It's awful you hate when eat. That stuff happens. But i know we're going to talk about this game but i wanted to get that out of the way. I still guys anything to add about that with. Kevin greene passing brian. Just you said it. I mean only here for three years is a steeler but one of the most popular steelers of all time I i was crushed. Dave i that was a hard one. That was difficult. And you're exactly right jeff. Fight it was kind of tough to even as a fan to get in the mood to watch a game and then we didn't really have a game to watch anyway so now absolutely not and so before we get diving into the numbers here. Let's hit some just some super chad's yet to say way into the game at some point. So steel dog. India gives is two dollars and says no takeaways on defense. The only bright spot was benny snell. we'll talk about benny snell. I thought he had a good game. He represented himself. Well we'll put it that way Isaac aguilera gives two dollars in one. More I missed one. I'm Let me try to find that here. We go Five dollars of isaac. He says one of the one of the steelers gonna stop throwing a short. Why does ben still get days off. It's embarrassing what's happening. Hard to disagree. And then he has to more dollars and says one more thing stopped dancing juju. You're not gonna find many people to disagree with you on that regard Coming up i guarantee that for shore. Kyle smith gives us five. Dollars was worst at tackles or the rafts jukes in our abysmal. Dan almost act on fourth down. Rest missed several calls including a dpi on chase claypool. Both were pretty bad. I would say sean. The dawn gives us five dollars. Mile to ms ms very small. Now one of the worst game slash halves. I've ever seen abs- yeah that sounds about right. are davidson podcast Curtain gives us five dingo delays. He says losing to the bengals. That's not just cricket. Poor form is the steelers have given themselves a sticky. Wicket need that paver for creation. And you know what if you listen to his podcast. If you listen to his podcast he hates cincinnati more than he hates the ravens. The browns the patriots. He hates cincy accent. He gives us Five bucks ben didn't get his elbow fixed to not throw it more than five yards and there's a lot of questions about ben roethlisberger swirling around a lot of people were saying that he's hurt. Mike tomlin was asked about this. A point blank is he hurt in the post game press cars he said now and as it were you concerned about his arm strength in the second half of the season he said now so whether you leave tomlin or not nobody was asked about the take that for what. It's worth wilson. Pa gives us a maybe a much Correctly five dollars. He said juckes penalty was good. Nice to see his fire bended Chase was a bright spot alongside snell started going forward as always hashtag feeder I dunno. Benny snell deserves more time. I think absolutely i mean. He's he did. I think so. zero. I'm trying to think how to say this. I don't know any guesses. Their dave exiled dem path. Yeah there you go gave his ten dollars. He said the steelers offense was offensive. I think that's a good way of describing it and we will take the time now to talk about the steelers offense like we always do we give grades and we start with none other than benjamin. Todd rothlisberger dan ross burgers twenty four thirty eight throws for only one hundred seventy yards. He averaged four and a half. He had one touchdown. One interception was only sacked one times but he was pressured a lot Sixty two point four rating the the fumble. I don't know that that go on his record. Davor pounds on snap. I'm pretty sure the the last i saw it was awful because the rushing age should it should go against rothlisberger because that was not a bad snap. There was nothing wrong with it. He just mishandled. The football guys were great. Ben rothlisberger i think. We all know which way we're going. But we'll start with brian. Go ahead benjamin. Francis rothlisburger because francis starts with f. Nuff said i'm not going elaborate. You know why. Dave agree disagree. Throw a minus on there. I mean it was. Just i mean that first half is was. I don't know that we steelers fans had to witness that bad of a first half even or in a half a football to even have wasn't even that bad in two thousand and nineteen. I know it wasn't good but was it that bad. That was bad. I mean. I originally tweeted out to ben. Rothlisberger had twenty nine passing yards. That's because the stats. I was looking at hadn't properly adjusted juice juice fumble the takeaway yardage on that. He had nineteen passing yards in the first half and benny snell had thirty rushing yards so that that was one comparison. It's it was. I mean and it wasn't just at the numbers weren't there. It was no confidence in anything passes. Were nowhere close. He's making a decision to throw balls two guys that have multiple guys on him. You know. everyone's breaking in that direction. Because i mean is he is he. Is there something that the defense is seeing on the field by watching rothlisberger that we can't even see on tv that he is completely telegraphing and saying exactly who he's throwing do because they were just swarmed to him and there'd be other guys wide open and it didn't matter i i'm going to give him an f. I mean there's no other grade really to give him. Someone put in the live. Chad i give him an are for retire You you just. You're searching for answers. You want something tangible. You want something that you can say like. David was just mentioning. You want something you can say. This is what's wrong. This is it even if it wasn't injury even if it was his elbow is not backed back to where it was even if there was any of those things it would least be something by all reports that we're hearing it's none of that in you're asking yourself what is going on. No one's getting any answers. I think the fact that he still gets his days off early in the week it rubs people the wrong way but nonetheless i it's enough good dave. I think they're full of it. I think that seeing ben's performance tonight. I'm starting to i. This is just a gut feeling. I'm going like bad. I'm going with the gut feeling. It feels like there is something wrong with then. It feels like there's something wrong because they had the extra day off. You had the extra data work on the offense and you chose to rest him. Why because that tells you that. There's something else outside of the football scheming preparation part. That is more important to get right near it. Looks like to me. It just looks like his arm is fatigued. I mean it looks like a guy that hasn't thrown away. He didn't throw a pass Of what would he throw. Maybe fido forty passes in two thousand and nineteen read surgery against seattle in week to and his arm is probably wearing down. I mean you can never really prepare yourself than training to go out there and throw for fifty plus times in consecutive weeks all these weeks in a row and so yeah we always joke about. I didn't have my arm. Surgically repaired to hand the ball off. But my goodness maybe. His arm wasn't ready to throw the ball to make. It just looks the you don't see a lot of zip on his pass. As you can see the deep ball wobbling he. He doesn't have the arm strength. I don't know we have a lot of superjet together. I want to get to all of them for pass. My jeremy smith gives his four nights. His best case. Scenario outside of a super bowl miracle. Losing the wildcard. Impre day kyle. Trask falls far enough. I if you listened to my let's ride. I am not. I am not one to talk about college football right now at all. Just based on the fact that I don't know enough about these players to really talk about it but nonetheless it's it's not good dave I move through there. Seems like there's a bunch. I went back to make sure i had one saved up and then i can't get the other ones that the ten dollar one here for miss mrs mr steelers. That game felt worse than the loss to tibo while the loss was in the playoffs and that was ten dollars. Yeah thank you very much. Appreciate there was gay. I just can't seem to get any other one. So i okay. Thank you if you get them. Throw them up there. But brian i wanna ask you about that. You just think it's fatigue in the army think it's more structural. What are your thoughts. You know what i i think. There's something going on. I you know the decisions aren't good. There's it just seems to me like when they were trying to come back in that game. There's plenty of time left on the clock. Then there wasn't because they were just lackadaisical getting the ball and that was led by ben. I don't know whether there's an arrogance thinking. I we got this but no you don't and this is one we're going to start. I haven't heard his press conference but this is where we start getting the well. If i don't have it and you the hey i'm going to be the first one to own it that i don't have it now. That's not good enough anymore. Your quarterback you just went sixty thousand plus You've gotta decide ya gotta decide and can't be forty million dollars. You've got to decide whether you are in it or you're just collecting a paycheck and tonight it felt like he was collecting a paycheck last week. It felt like you eating paycheck. I just don't feel the urgency with him. And i just don't feel that i think the fire is gone and i love the guy. Yeah i mean the fire was there i mean. He saw it in the second half when they started turning around. But it's at the beginning of the game in the beginning of the gains have been awful. I mean. i can't even tell you the last time they had a first down on the opening. Drive the game. it's been four straight games or they haven't that's unbelievable data the super jazz. You can't bring them up on the screen because there's a problem right now with stream yard were there. It's just jumping our the place in. They're gone but i can read some of them. We got we got five dollars from michelle powers yet but we didn't get any thing in there. So if i see up to bring it up. Five dollars from kyle. Anderson said some bright spots bright spots to start the second half got ourselves into deep of a hole in the first half. I still believe we can turn this around hashtag here. We go that you still hope that your offense can score more than seventeen points against the to ten and one bengals. That's what i'm gonna say. They were going to talk about the rest of the offense. But yeah you did yourself whole but at at at any point did anyone on this panel. Think yeah they're gonna come back and scored twenty four points in the second half. I didn't brian did you. I did really I actually thought. Average watching i have you thought they were going to do a complete one eighty and they were gonna yup. I really thought that if they came out urgent in the To start the for the second half which they kind of dead when they got the ball back for that first drive. And i'm like okay. You know they've got this and then there was. The there was no urgency after that the On the play. Wasn't that great. When they had to settle for a field goal. They could have really gotten back in that game right there. Now you're right. Let's get you a couple of here. Takaharu five dollars. Let's go randy diener house hunting boys. I'm sure you're not alone in that regard. We'll put it that way. Let's see yada freaky. freaking geeks. Media gives us five dollars. Ben gets the ball out so quick because if he holds it longer than a couple of seconds he's getting sacked or hit as he throws. The line is old and slow. Oh gosh it's just one of the many issues right now at this football team and then grayson brown gives us twenty dollars is what happened to the steelers. It seems like they haven't been the same. Since the botched thanksgiving day game it's becoming laughable at this point sad. Because i think we are wasting this defense. I dunno guys. I give up a time where you just wanna give one these emojis. I don't know Machu who's giving us a lot of money over the last few weeks appreciate his eleven dollars three cents as r.i.p to the great of i think he meant kevin greene. That's okay. i don't think. Joe greene pass away. I can't handle any our little much for me right now. He's at the lines not good anymore. Quick fix short passes can't run block for running backs. Wide receiver talent. Is there a comes down to the quarterback no line. Oh yeah the play calling Mrs and mr steelers gives his ten dollars. This is completely different team than we saw earlier this season. That's it's absolutely right. One hundred percent correct. This doesn't even look like a shell of the team we saw earlier. And then lastly todd williams his four ninety nine if we see that question throw that up. There in steel gives his two dollars Did it also feel like we got out coached i. I don't know if i would say that. We fell the valley. We got outcoached based on the fact that the steelers the ball over three times in the first quarter. That's not code first-half why sure that they weren't on the first quarter in the first quarter or least the second one was at the end of the first quarter. They scored the that third third one. The third one was in the second quarter because they went. They had fourteen points off of those last two turnovers and And so i'm not gonna go as far as saying that they were outcoached. Because like i said that's not on tomlin it's not on feeder and that's definitely a a common thread narrative here but i don't know it's there's a lot of question marks surrounding this team. I wanna make that very clear. There's a lot of flaws and we're going try to get through. We gotta get through it. So let's get through the running backs the steelers running the hey. This is probably their best outing. They'd had in a really long time. Benny snell eighteen carries for eighty four yards. Four point seven yard average did have a touchdown in a long run of twenty nine yards. Anthony mcfarland one carry for five after that it was samuels one for four total twenty three carries for eighty six yards three point seven average. Guys benny snell. He actually didn't do bad. I didn't think brian. What grade do you give the running the running backs. I e benny snell football. So let's go ahead and give him a b. I gotta have a bright spot here. He he looked pretty good. I you know. I have no problem with us play. I'm not going to give him a You know there was that there was that wasn't didn't he. Turn the ball over on downs on or did he end up getting that. Or was that a third downtown where you get on thirty fourth. Okay so i mean or there was a situation where they had a punt and he didn't get it. I thought he had a pretty good game. He was a bright spot On a dark night. Dave will gives running game. I'm i'll go go beer. Be minus. i'll say be. And i think the running game could have been even better if the steelers weren't in such a big hole. I think benny snell was running. In a way that he that he was running. It was the first time you saw a running back for the series. A longtime running in what you call a closeout style where you could take the ball and close out the game. The problem is the sewage warning that position now. So that was that was one of the biggest issues so that i mean especially if you compare it to what had been going but still. That's like the best grade by four. I'm going to give him a b. i thought he played. I thought he played well. I mean for the opportunities. he was given He made something nothing on a few occasions. Which is a necessity for steelers running backs but running behind his offensive line is not easy. Burn woody here's his four ninety nine. He says the offensive is not good. So band does not have to set up for the deep throw I do want to ask you a question about the offensive line because we're going to grade them in terms of run blocking once we get through this kyle. Smith gives us five dollars. Jiji's dance didn't lee doesn't lead to l's that's just dumb media and social media hullaballoo fifteen zero video of exit fifty three maintain. Get off my lawn. can i say something about that. Though get i get it. What did you see those defenders flying when they saw number nine eight ready to knock him out so yeah it does matter von vonda was quoted. The guy that almost took his head off he was quoted by saying. We're going to go out and have to stop him. From dan dave they recognize that he's gonna do it and when he's bold enough to say i'm not gonna stop then you're going to deal with the repercussions do i think he's gonna do it again. I think if tomlin's smart he says look even when we're playing in heinz to juju. Just knock it off like that. We just don't need it. It's one of those. Distractions is becoming a distraction. Staff gives us a six dollars and ninety nine while those are those are cannot box These last four prolonged dry games made me long for the heart attack endings of week. Seven through nine having lost go steelers. Well i'm glad there's at least some woman hasn't lost hope because i feel like a lot of fans shoot the fan. Confidence was at twenty four percent guys coming into this game. It's gonna be down the single digits probably before next week. Mrs mr steele gives us five more dollars. Was anyone else trying to figure out. A thinly was smiling or grimacing the entire game. Both i felt he was smiling. And they wanna knock that bevis face. vice president gives his five dollars. He said any reason. Steelers align pass box on both passing enron employees. At least we can have a little sense of humor here. Anyone know this question wanna get you know what in the world the steelers were doing. It left guard tonight anyone. It almost felt like that. What what i to me. That's a fireball offense. I'm sorry you have. Jc has an hour is center gays. A train senate doesn't mean he can't play garvey's the train center derwin gray lease as some experienced guard if you think. Jc has an hour is the answer there. Then why would you just put him in and leave him in and let him get into a rhythm instead. They're throwing gerwin gray out there at times. He's playing okay. he's opening up some holes. I feel that running the ball well and during raise in there in all of a sudden j. c. narvik other dave explained. Try to explain this to me in elementary terms please. I had no problem with it because what you're trying to do. Sometimes i mean it's crazy because you say that sometimes there's a series where you'll play different running back and you're just doing something in we don't think twice of it but we've got stuck in our minds that the offensive line has to be the same the entire game and he said nissen blah blah blah. I don't think they were trying to figure out what was going to work. Best and jeffrey benedict to set it so many times. A hundred away of is not an easy player to play next to based on his style and we saw that two nights that that matt feiler beans a lot more to this offensive line. People are saying about all filer terrible blah. I don't think so. I i it. That is a cohesiveness issue. When it comes to filer was has figured out how to play better next hour. Hundred villanueva ramon foster do out. You know. I don't know if it was villanueva. Learn by playing next to foster or or foster's able to do. I don't know what the deal is but it something kind of interesting going on there. I have a problem trying to figure out. Who's gonna actually get the job done. I was just surprised. They didn't just find one that go with it. Then in the second half. That's what would still kinda surprised me. Maybe they were just the infamous we didn't want to we. We might need these guys down the road. I'd try to limit their snaps but to me. That's just a a sound bit. That's not really what they were doing. I don't know why. But i'm not. I don't have a problem with it again. Bryan and thoughts on the left guard situation. I found it strange. I've never heard of an offensive line being influx in the middle of game. But dave's making it sound like. It's normal brian. What are your thoughts in everything. dave said. i mean i. It's hard to go against. I just like continuity. I think for a young guy with not a lot of experience. You'll stick with one and if you're going to replace him you replace him for the game. And i you know coming in cold. It reminded me of the back in one thousand nine hundred ninety two with the denver. Broncos would bring in a different quarterback every other series you know they they Rotated to every series and it worked horribly back then. And i just don't think that no it's not the same but you kinda need continuity there michelle powers gives us ten dollars keep the faith things will get better watch and see. Well i worked for this point. You're not going to be every every team. This left to play our our double digit win teams. They will not face another team that does not have double digit wins so they can't get worse than losing to a team that came into the game with only two and a half wins. Big about it. I know north eighteen ninety nine cents. Thank you very much. The tip appreciate it. Let's get to the. Let's get to the receivers shall we. Let's see here Deanna johnson eight receptions fifty nine yards along twenty three targeted thirteen times. Chase claypool three catches for fifty four yards. Thirty seven was along that came on that wide receiver screen on third down. I thought he was taken that to the house. By the way shocked. He got tripped up. Benny snell actually the third leading receiver three catches for twenty three yards. Juju smith schuster three catches for fifteen. Jalen rose one for twelve. Here's a note to remember. James washington zero catches zero yards on three targets. Guys grade the receivers. Brian go ahead well. This is tough. I really I really can't give him a good grade just because they did spectacular. You know claypool was probably the best of the bunch. I know that we didn't have the drops from diontae johnson and he played like a warrior out there. But i'm not giving anything better than a c. Tonight because they didn't do anything great they just were average. Yeah still dog gives us two dollars loville in a way the but he wasn't getting any help now that's true he wasn't. He was on an island and carl lawson. He does one thing well. And that's rush the passer dave. What are your thoughts. Receivers didn't see crazy. Drops saul saul a lot of bad throws their direction. I it's really. I don't think they were the problem. I mean so. That's why i'm gonna say c. Plus that's there. We'll go that that's reasonable. How's to say a siege as middle of the road. Because when you're quarterbacks not throwing you good passes it's tough to make this catches Didn't see the drops. That was a good thing. I thought diontae. Johnson had a good bounce back So i don't know we shall see let's great the offensive line in general and has more on the pass blocking because i think we talked about them and run blocking a little bit. How would you grade off line in general though this this week brian will sabathia. I'm giving them a d. And i'm usually giving them a higher grade because of Their pass blocking Somebody said it in the live chat. That owl made lawson his dad in this game and kara lawson was all over band. There was I mean this was probably the most pressure that ben has really felt in while it seemed and he has faced some really good defenses recently but cincinnati was all over him. Dave offense of line which are grade. Yeah i think. Brian's pretty good there with with saying a d. because i mean there were a few times where ben held the ball passing because he was able to but there was times where he had to throw before he wanted to because he had to and yes the the the steelers ran the ball a little bit better but there was times when they needed to run the ball. They couldn't i mean that one third down play they just blew who they were blocking and they just let them let the linebacker come right through and blow up any smell for two yard loss. I mean they just dad guys did that block and i was got frustrated early on because once again i said. Benny snell runs for three yards. But there's three offensive linemen standing watching him do it. You know that. I didn't see it as much in the second half. I will say that. But i noticed in the first half so it's just there. They're missing something right now. And i don't know if it's something that they can get back that's true Is bad oftens of lying. I'm going to give. I'm going to give him a d. this because it just is like brian has said in the past. You always kind of bump up the grade. Because the past blocking. But i didn't even think that was a snuff on monday night so week. Fifteen so take that for what. It's worth a bernardo. He gives us twenty dollars. But it's i don't know what that is He's thinking it was russia but it's not now this team's wasting receivers. What's the point of having great draft. They're running the exact same concepts every single play. that's awful. My grandma will called. That are game on offense about six bucks from brazil. Nice how dangerous on the millions zillions. Goodness gracious lord. Help us all right. So the steelers offense was absolutely dreadful before we take a break. I wanna get your guys thoughts on The play calling the the overall offense before we kind of move onto the in part to. Brian will serve you thoughts on the offense. In general you can talk about everything from brandy feet to ben rothlisberger. What are your thoughts. We were talking about ben roethlisberger earlier and one of the things that you said. Yeah ben showed some fire when he came back in the second half. But that's the problem. You wasted entire thirty minutes of football. That was probably in. Everybody was saying on on social media on my texts on our slack channel that you know that was probably one of the worst pat. I house of football that they've seen from pittsburgh and watch him. And i've got to agree because that was just a dreadful showing in once again. There was no fire coming out in that i mean short. You can have fire when you're down. Seventeen nothing but when you have no fire to start. The game other quarterbacks have fire other offenses have fire but the play calling was nothing. That would make you go. We've got to adjust for that now. It's like oh yeah great. We plan for this. That's it so the play calling. I mean just the same thing. No adjustments seemed to have been made dave or your thoughts. There were times when i actually thought the steelers when running the ball ran it. Not as quite as predictable as they have in the past Yeah and i think. That's what really helped them with the running game as well and it helped me get snell going but at the same time. It's hard to say if the like brought brian. saint about the playcalling. It's hard to say if it was that bad when your execution is just that terrible. And i've never seen a game like that from ben rothlisberger where he just wasn't executing hardly at all. I mean it's one thing for ben to have a bad pro here and there but this game was like. Wow ben had a good throw. That's what you were taking note of. That's not what you were getting. Otherwise so i mean it's this was supposed to be the game that some people. It doesn't matter what the score is. You're not you know. I'm still not going to feel better better because the bengals and i thought to myself well if they don't want we're going to a whole lot worse and we area i look at play calling from a situational standpoint. Like for instance the steelers in the second half. I thought they made adjustments. You know that they were definitely giving some new. Look some new wrinkles in the bengals. Were not able to really adjust. They only force. I think one punt in the second half up until the very last series in they come out in with the the game essentially on the line and they they're chucking deep like they're throwing hail marys at the end of the game. I understand that should probably been defensive. Pass interference on chase claypool down. The left sideline but the play calling everything that they had had success so far they completely abandoned. It just makes you scratch your head and say what in the world's going on. I do not know but you know what i do know that we'll be right back through listening on the audio side of what you're watching on facebook or youtube. We're not going anywhere but if you're listening on audio all you gotta do is go hop over par to. You'll get us talk. All about the defense will be right back.

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The Scho Bro Show, Part 1: Was the Steelers loss to Cincinnati the worst in team history?

Behind the Steel Curtain

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The Scho Bro Show, Part 1: Was the Steelers loss to Cincinnati the worst in team history?

"Pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome to another episode of this. Go bro show. This is your. I guess i should say. Host co editor of behind steel. Dave scofield with me as always in our nice somber mood is my big brother rich. Rich how are you this evening. Don't okay. I thought i would just take a moment here and oh yeah it's funny i wanted station is doing right now. Yeah the panic button. Most people if if they weren't on the panic button before monday. Night there on the panic button now. Yeah well. it's funny. We we wanted to start it off for a nice quiet somber note. We want to do our best. Mike tomlin impersonation because that you know that's kinda it's too right now. You're like what what. Why i just don't know what to think anymore. Because steeler fans here we go. You don't expect the team to react the same way as the fan base. What was our show last week but this didn't have anything to do with the bengals. It was about the steelers and we talked about coach. Tom indeed even highlight any of the bengals. They kept the focus on the steelers. And what they needed to do out. Did you read the the staff predictions article. I know you. You didn't hear the questions if you read it after you may because there was another one added later by one deputy editor michael beck jeff changes or not but i've read it just was just think words. I think it was. It was three words. It was the bengals snake. And i think said thirty seven to nothing was his prediction. But that's how we as the fan base. That's how we all felt going into this game. It wasn't about the bengals. it was about the steelers. I mean they were on their third quarterback they're running back was out the only semblance of an offense or anything that they had the last time the steelers played them was joe burrow. And he's done for the season so it was just like yeah. This is more about the steelers doing their thing. Well if they took that attitude. That was definitely the wrong way to go. You have to admit that it was. This bengals team was fired up and ready to play and the pittsburgh steelers. I would say they weren't ready for it. But i can't say that i just wanna say i think ben rothlisberger was it ready for it. I'm sorry to lay this on the feet of the steelers franchise future hall of fame quarterback but my goodness when you really go back and look at it and break it down. There are still so many things that could have gone right for this team. They pro- probably not going to cover but they would have at least one the game but ouch i mean i think i had to adjust adjusted because i tweeted out. I mentioned this. The post game show. I tweeted out at halftime. What ben had done in the first half and here they had their stats wrong for that fumble by juju and then they took away ten more yards from yet like what nineteen yards passing in the first half then he had a twelve yard sacks seven net yards passing in the half. It was just rich. Your turn that was one of the worst hats of offensive football. I have seen from the steelers and that is a big deal. Why because you don't. You don't remember as much but i remember the games in the eighties i had to live through cliffs. Doubt mark malone lovey brewster malone was torius for putting up halves a foot at least a half sometimes whole games. That looked like that the other night the only reason could maybe worse is because the steelers right now. There's just they have a future hall of fame quarterback they have talented players in the skill positions way. More than the steelers had offensively in the eighties. I mean the eighties was receivers wise. You got a little bit of the tail. End of john stalwarts career and louis lips. I feel so bad for lewis lips. That guy was a fantastic receiver and he played on. Horrible horrible steeler team. Yes he did you know. It was rough to watch the other night. Kyle got up. And when benn through the interception kyle got up and said i've seen enough. I'm going to bed. When i got a text from our sister which which. I called her out on that today told her that you go on dory next after game show. Yeah but she was right. I couldn't turn it off. I needed to keep doing my thing. And i'm like the injury now. Oh i wanted to go to bed angry kyle. Did i wanted to go to bed at the same time. Kyle did but was like knee-jerk so i kept on it and just that that was just down right ugly offensive football in the first half for the steelers. Yeah i mean we'll we'll we'll spend plenty of time talking about ben rothlisberger here but at least when a mention the topic of the show and that is was this game on monday night this loss to the cincinnati bengals was it. The worst loss in pittsburgh steelers history. Now you're probably saying well you know it's one loss you know they're eleven and three of i have my numbers behind it for. This is a question we're going to think about. We're going to dwell on a little bit and then we're going to break down a little bit more but let's let's not go all doom and gloom. Give me one good thing you sort of this game money. Now i'm going to force you to be positive because i had to force myself. There's there's places to be very positive okay. First of all. Benny snell had decent game running. The football is he did what i all from benny snell and why he had a decent game was he. He was there to play. He was running the football with heart. He was bringing the pain people trying to tackle him. He was refusing to stop and getting every inch. he could get. That guy would love to over one hundred yards just so i could celebrate it even more but that guy came and showed a lot of heart and played really hard the other night. I gotta give him props. Yes and you'll be getting a break down. If not tomorrow i've already done the stats part jeffries. Going to be doing the film part you're steelers vertex It all depends on when it comes together and what are schedule. Looks like whether or not to you know it'll be tomorrow or or on. What is tomorrow. Tomorrow's wednesday or thursday. My goodness i don't even know what day it is or when we quit where we haven't played on a sunday for well we well. The steelers played sunday night last week. So that was even that meal. Yeah yeah so anyway but are what the vertex is going to be about. Was the running game and was this at least a glimpse into something. That could be a bit of running it now. You brought up a. It wasn't a super just a regular comment. I didn't get to see it all right. It was oh steeler fans were allowed to mention the name mark malone well. I work balloon in a negative context. Yes and talk about some of the worst play. I've seen for the steelers. I've saw some pretty bad games from mark balloon but those were also some pretty bad steeler teams as well. And that's why i liked your title for the show. Was this the worst loss in steelers history or whatever. Because i was sort i have seen other. Steeler game haven't watched through the eighties. I have seen other really really bad steelers games but those were from really bad. Steelers teams like a game. Like that doesn't surprise you from a team that finishes the season six and ten. Yes that game surprises. You know what we saw last night surprises me from a team coming into that game at eleven and to yes. Yes and that's why we're going to break that down here. That's why it was terrible now. A couple of things about the running game that if you if you read the vertex article i'm gonna give you a little bit of a little bit of a preview and someone brought up in the live chat think it was the same person you brought their comments before they didn't they didn't even try to get the running game going early. You realize that in the first quarter of gaillard's had six offensive drives one of which on the first one that was a fumble technically they call it a running play. I'm throwing it out as a running play. If you don't count that as a running play it no six offensive drives. Do you know how many rushing attempts to steelers had the first quarter many to one of which was mcfarland. Mcfarland are not benny snell. The the i. I got a pretty early on like like sex and it was carried. One one rush for five yards. They had seven rushing yards in the first quarter onto attempts. They were the steelers. Were already down ten to nothing before they had their third rushing attempt to the game. Now it's funny in a normal circumstance you're like the steelers can't run the ball. Why are even. Why are we wasting downs with him. Running the ball. You've at least got to give it a shot. And they didn't give it a shot to later. So jefferies going to break down the film to say did. Was there more success running the ball simply because the steelers were down by so much and they were willing to give up the run where they doing other things differently or was it just benny snell going out there to play hard. I'm kind of waiting to see exactly what i said. Jeffrey up with these you guys would love how we do. These vertex articles. We come up with an idea. I tell them. Hey give me an idea of what you wanna do. Film wise and i'll do the stats. So then he gives me idea. I'd be the stats. He takes stats to see where it makes sense. He doesn't know we don't know what our points into. We're both done. Like i have no idea what is gonna what points. Jeffrey does when he smarts. He doesn't know what it's going to be into after we get there. It's it's really great. It's a lot of fun. We let it go where the information takes us. So here's long you're talking about your guys you know what a hold off because i want to talk about a little bit more jeffries article. Today that was breaking down. Ben rothlisberger in the game is i. I wanna talk a little more about that. If you haven't read that article from jeffrey. Look at he he picked actually a couple of plays he picked replays. I actually noticed watching the game. And i thought was very interesting because it was show showing some stuffing. We'll get into that more later. Yeah but another thing that was that was really interesting. The steelers if you count the kneel down at the end they had fifteen drives fifteen drives. Don't count that the just call it. Fourteen fourteen on fourteen drives only three drives had more than one rushing attempt. I think there was if you count the neil that well no because that would count as a rushing attempt. You know say that. I think there was five drives. Didn't even have a rushing attempt so kind of crazy stuff that even though it seemed like they got the run game going they were using it and what was even worse as they were in a situation to got themselves in a situation where it would have been great to have a good running game going for him a lot of these other games and they didn't they were in a situation where good running game didn't help them. I mean they scored their last touchdown and they were using the run but and along with the short passes and it was working and they and they got into the touchdown zone shutouts. Brian anthony davis but it took more than half of the time that was left in the game in the fourth quarter. When when they did that so it was one of those things and now another thing. Turn around the defense and people like oh the defense. They gave up one drive. That went over four yards. One drive the entire game that went over forty yards thinking. They are bradford's bringing it tonight. Like i keep putting stuff up here. He said i think we got. I i to toronto and it was near both drive that ended with ben rothlisberger perception. That's the only first downs that they got in the first half which got one back far enough. And then the tooks core for penalty so that even that drive that touchdown only twenty was. I think it was a twenty four yard drive. It was less than twenty five thirty certainty. Eight eight. i was running those numbers earlier. But i've run so many numbers today. They're jumbling together in my head. That's what was going on the defense. I mean and jeffrey. We'll probably also break this down. Some point one of the things that he he mentioned to the staff last night in our slack channel during the game was this defense is doing all of this trying to completely cover for not having inside linebackers. I know. I mean he's like they are missing their inside linebackers so bad and it was very apparent on the one long drives Because the other thing that was crazy about about last night's the bengals did not have a pass attempt in the fourth quarter. Yes i knew that too. They completed a pass for ten yards to aj green right before the end of the third quarter. That was the one where mark is. Alan got hurt because geoffrey had asked me this today. He's like he's doing the snap counts. Articles said wait a second. Marcus allen got hurt. How could you play one hundred percent of the snaps on defense. Well he got hurt the next play. Tj wa jumps off side. and. I want be upset about that real quick after after this. He jones upside the clock. Still running they get to the end of the quarter without. He gets to come back in so he doesn't miss way and they never passed the ball again the rest of the game now. There was a question that was brought up. I can answer it now. Or maybe i should save it for stat. Now go ahead and answer it now. Is there so why do they might do this instead. Gig due to. who knows. Why do they sometimes blow him dead and sometimes they don't you have an answer for trump defensive. You'll probably give me one. And then i'll give you the other one. Okay so you know. We saw the one where what's the. What are the navy guy of you. Know doesn't matter whatever. The quarterback for them got bad because the flag he wanted the free play. Okay but you couldn't run the fleet free play. Why because after an it may have been a. Ta watt one was where tj what jumps in and his jumping back but his guy doesn't just point at tj. What he he brings up his. He moves so at that point in time they have to blow it. The i was trying to explain this on twitter last night. I thought you were going to do the most people realize and that is that if they're unabated of quarterback but they're going to get a free shot they blow. They're not gonna let that happen. That's the most people realize but go. Why don't you get the free place. Sometimes ben doesn't get the free play. It's because if the defense comes across the defense also has time to get back before the snap back. My wineman are are trained to react to it because if they react that that kills the play at. It's on the defense. So if the if the offensive tackle would not have moved or and it wasn't a lot earlier it was barely early but he moved early but the reason but it's not called on him because the reason he moved was because of the defense sorted. And you can't you can't let that play doh because the offense tackle moved early unless you're the the at the time i think it was still seeing diego chargers in two thousand eighteen at honestly if you use why you've seen that a lot this year they have on this show leading where they are letting the tackles move a fraction allot and it bothers me. 'cause it's it's technically illegal move that they're allowing to happen because it gives the offense of an advantage and we all know that the nfl wants more points. Yeah so that's that's what they frustrate and honestly holding we know the whole. It's not that they don't they're like well. I've seared because look at when they're calling holding. They are calling offensive holding on run place. Or hey if the quarterback scrambles those who just times they call holding if the pocket holds up for the quarterback even if he steps forward in the pocket hold. All you want doesn't matter. We're teaching what was literally picked up and thrown down and it was not called saw stefan to it. The past got away and he turns it the referees. Just go off. Because he was blatantly held and they didn't call it. Because they want to see this quarterbacks being able to sit in there and do what they wanna do and giving you all this offense. They don't care if the linemen half to hold the defenders in order because they don't wanna see sacks they wanna see completions that's what the nfl wants anyway. And of course every. I worry that i hope that doesn't happen in football. The way happened in baseball. Okay and that and what's happened in baseball. is you know. They came back back into baseball and suddenly the big thing. Is you know chicks. Dig the long ball right now. Runs yeah and it has made baseball board. I did not watch one pitch of baseball. This entire including the postseason. I always watch play baseball. But i didn't this year. I watched a little bit. But still i watched a couple of games where i was just like. This is painful to sit around watch. Well i don't want to talk about baseball. We go clinton before we get into what. I really want to dive into this question. I was going give my case for it. Anything else you wanna say about. Let let's slips didn't make give enough time and dip into the ben rothlisberger topic. Okay okay start joe okay. This this game was totally big. Ben and i'm starting to wonder if some of the now you could talk the week before about the drops from the receivers but as offensive started to go down. I'm starting to see things that make me. Think more and more that this is ben and teams have done their homework and they have picked up on his tendencies and he is not making an adjustment on it. He needs to okay. I can talk about a couple of different plays. That and i know jeffrey brought them up. And i thought the same exact thing on the one and it was on that. I think it was. What's like second to. He tried to throw quick to dante and it got deflected. He was darn lucky. It got deflected because it would have been intercepted Okay ben when away from the play that was called on his own because of what he was reading from the defense he saw a quarterback playing eight nine yards off. Okay so he thought it would just stand up quick thirty deontay big four or five yards. Get the i doubt with. The bengals did was. They brought pressure from the corner off. The the the defense is right side. The steelers left side. Let's the corner. The plane that was supposed to be run was to be a wide receiver screen to juju out in front of juju on this play was donald and big al. If you watch this play. Take place if ben were to throwing the ball into the blitz down the way the play was designed would have been a touchdown because they were two guys. Between juju smith schuster the end zone and two blockers out in front ready to just demolish them in donald and big al on to a safety in a corner. It was going to happen with the bengals did was they showed that they baited been into this they showed i think i do. Think back off ben figures he's got soft coverage but on the snap of the ball. The linebacker on that side sprints to a spot figure network deontay was going to catch the ball and if that ball gets through and doesn't get tipped he's right there stepping in front of the in his in his intercept at the ball. You're bringing up a really good point. Because i've always said like with the steelers play. The browns. the first time and people were like oh baker. Mayfield dinged up with could be case keenum brian. Anthony davis guy. I'm like i hope it's not because the steelers no the defense fitzpatrick and right off the bat. They know how to trick baker mayfield into into doing what they want him to do now. Baker might be better than that. Now he might have evolved this season. But you know who who. I would say regressed into that out. There is one benjamin talbot burger. They know if you give him this. Look he's going to try to do this. So let's give him the look and jump on what we know he's gonna do yes. I mean. they're like why. I'm going to back this. Why in the world is ben throwing into triple coverage. Because it's just like. I'm pretty sure it was kevin was it. Kevin might have been jeffrey. They both do such a great job of breakdown. Sometimes i get their stuff mixed up the talked about the horrible terrible. No good rpo. I think it was jeffrey that when the steelers were doing the run pass option. Ben rothlisberger doesn't run the option based on what happens during the play. He only does it based on pre snap. Read so near doing pre-snap. He predetermines if he's going to run pass so therefore teams would then say well. Let's show him this because we know he will read it this way and he'll decide on this will cover it the that's what they're doing all the passes. Now they're staying. Oh there in this formation. We know ben's going to go to this we. Let's show him this so that way we can jump on that. That's what i'm seeing. And the you said and i think that sums up everything that's going on in the second one was the which actually was the first one that i saw. Jeffrey brought up and pointed out was the juju smith. Schuster fumble play when the steelers go to that formation team says have learned that he loves to throw the drag route to juju. And isn't that break. We're claypool was running wide open for the first down guy that caused a fumble was the guy who was to be covering chase claypool but because of the formation they do what they like to throw to juju. As soon as ben planted he left chase. Claypool ran it. Juju juju catches the ball. He likes him up. Causes the fumble. That would wasn't thrilled. Juju fumbled it. But it wasn't even guy gardner juju because the fumble fumble was the guy that was garden claypool but he knew he could break off a claypool and come after juju because in that formation ben prefers to the drag route. It seems like ben. Roethlisberger is trusting. Go ahead if he holds that ball that much longer and sees that guy doing that. Nice little pass down the middle to to chase claypool. And he's probably still running now. I sing it. I really don't i think is making up his mind what he's doing based on pre snap and prime example this. I know we got super channel and get to it here on the second. Prime example of this was there was the play it was the was it the fourth it might have been the fourth and ten play at at the end of the yes. They're out there. The bengals call timeout. the bengals. the steelers really even hold on what much they might have a little bit. they'd break come back to the line. The exact same formation. The referee has blown the blown to play in the. There's no one standing in the way the bengals are all kind of huddled and standing around the steelers. Could've snap the ball right then with them not paying one bit of attention and run the play. But that's not ben roethlisberger. He specifically wants to see what the defense is going to do to dissect it's because he thinks he can break it down and that's always been the case for bed or most often been the case for ben but teams know that he's not adjusting to what they're doing it in during play it's all based on the pre snap so therefore they are show they. They're showing one thing pre-snap getting him to decide that. That's going to be where i'm gonna need to go. And he's not adjusting on the fly. And that's and it's because it's quick timing thing because it's so quick timing. He's making the decision before the ball was in his hand. That's what he's doing. The digital wehrley ring is before the ball was in his hand and therefore the defense knows if we show this. They're going to do this so we're going to stop it. And the the bengals. Why not sell out to it like the guy how many taylor chase claypool run wide open. Because they knew. That's not what. Ben was gonna look based always. I saw at least three. And i mean that you're thinking all you have to do is hit a one time there's a touchdown but the they would rather take them. They were to ten in one coming into the game. They're gonna take the take the chance. Why not take a chance to see her. Do it worked until ben does this adjusted to it. Oh never showed that he did so therefore because he's been the old dog they're gonna take advantage of the dog mentality here. I got get this before luge up. I got you think you stevo five dollars tip jar. Thank you very much steve. We didn't understand as to why the defense didn't commit to the run when they see family couldn't throw the ball down the field. That is a great question. That is a great question rich. What are your thoughts on it. My thoughts are we were. We wanted to but we didn't have the inside linebackers. That could make it happen. I think you're right. I think they got exposed of not having the inside linebackers. I still think. Even though he got a sack he basically cleaned it up as finley. Tried to try to break the pocket and couldn't steph onto it was kind of a disappearing and disappearing last night. I mean i put him in our x factor article. I picked him is the x factor needing to step up after not being seen the week before and he didn't. So here's wasn't when it didn't play well Marcus allen. I'm sorry having to play the middle linebacker bit undersized and that would have been a totally different game if you had a every williamson lined up with vince way. Yeah army or even. I what or even every williamson with robert spelane bush. You know what i'm saying. I mean yeah. I mean that's just. That's the hindered their dealt i played. I hope i didn't miss a super chatham between the one you clicked on this one. I don't think he did okay. It's admits mrs mr steelers. Five dollars at the tip jar. Thank you very much which is funny. Because last night we got we we had a guy gets on. We had a ninety nine dollar ninety nine dollars. Ninety nine cents super chat show to mrs mr steelers. I think they'd put so many ten dollars. Timpson passed it. Thank you very much for that. They said just thinking. Do you guys think the fear of getting hurt is what is truly motivating ben. Not extending plays read post nap. I don't know if it's being hurt or feed knows the kate knows the limitations of his own offensive line. I think that's what it is. He doesn't want to get hit. He wants to avoid getting hit as much as possible because he knows he needs to stay healthy but he also realizes that his line is he. He knows what he can count on them four and what. He can't count on them. For exactly. Exactly i would. I think he could count on them a little longer than he does. Yeah just me. Also he responded. There was another one in. Jeffrey brown's and when i looked at it i was like what the heck is he doing. Ben rothlisberger burgers sat back there in. It might have been on in that last four. Play drive yeah. Sits back and shotgun takes the snap and proceeded to drop seven steps from shotgun then ends up pressure. We'll of course you're going to be pressure because when you drop that deep you've given the end the angle on tackle. Yeah exactly they broke it down. One time we're finley made a mistake. They're like oh man. Of course he got sacked on this one because he he. He faded back into the pass. Rush coming around the edge you. That's why they say step into the pocket. That's why they're called ed rushers. They're coming around the edge. What's the lineman's job to them. Out wide from someone who used to play left tackle before they move right tackle because are running back. Good run left Was sorry. that's the job whenever you were passed protecting your job wasn't the not let the guy pass you. Your job was to drive him so far why he couldn't come back and make a plan. So that was it so yeah. There's a lot of stuff to break down there with big ben. I think that really sums it up is that and that's what teams are you going to continue to do. So if the steelers can identify this is the problem and say ben. Actually look and see what the players are doing. You're smart enough. You've been doing this enough time. Don't just go off how they're lined up because guess what they're doing. They're showing you one thing. They're doing something else and do you know who does that. Also the pittsburgh steelers defense k. That's what is gonna answers because they know that you're going to trust your read more than you're you're you're you're stationary read more than what's happening in motion on the field teams are starting to copy us so they can stop us. Yeah so that's very interesting so now here's now if you wanna talk about a way turnaround quit. We've talked during the streak about. What does it take to get. It turned around. If it's really if it's really down to just offensively one player fared stuff out that could be for next. We'll see that's the thing and so many people were like it's time for me. Trust me i was a big mason rudolph fan especially pretty two thousand and nineteen and i would have been like. Maybe something can do if you look at. What mason rudolph the in two thousand nine hundred. You know what he did. He didn't read defenses of what they were doing. And they were tricking him into making throws and he was afraid to throw the ball. And you know in you know inside the numbers because of what the defense is doing and things like that and the he wasn't getting the rink asking him to read half the field they were asking him to read the field rather than right field. So it's not like bringing mason rudolph in is going to be that much better so the thing is maybe a different. You know. it's funny because it's not a mason. Rudolph couldn't be a decent quarterback. I don't know that he can't in the system you know. Is it a system thing. Don't know if it's a system thing. I don't know if you have to have the right quarterback in order to do it. And ben just can't anymore i don't know all i know is that it almost feels like what what happened with. Dick lebeau defense. It was so great for so long until they had to offense offenses had to break it down figured out the tendencies at exploited them. That's what happened with defense. That's why offenses defenses in the nfl. In today's game they have to constantly evolve. And that's why hearing coach tomlin say we just need to keep doing what we do but do it better. That's not working. That's not what thirty one other teams or. Maybe i should. Maybe maybe some of them are. Maybe i should say that's not what the top tier teams in the nfl were doing. They are making making adjustments. Making adjustments making adjustments. Because that's the game and if you're not going to do that you have a problem. We've gotta take a break here. If we we still haven't even. I stopped even made my case because we had so much talk about. We really got some good discussion there. We're gonna make the case that this was the worst loss in steelers history. At least i'm gonna make that case so if you're on audio side go ahead and flip on over to part to if you're with us on youtube if you're with us on facebook give us a few seconds and we'll be right back.

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Waiver Wire! So Many Great Options for Week 16 (12/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Waiver Wire! So Many Great Options for Week 16 (12/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from cbs. Sports it's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here's some combination of adam. Dave jamie benn. Well we hope you did not start. Ben rothlisberger if you did. You're moving on gradulate. You're probably one of the few welcome to the week. Sixteen the ad championship week. We made it waiver wire show. Hey not only we make it dave. We've got one of the best waiver wire weeks of the year right. It's you qualify. Just in time for eighty percent of the people who play fantasy football to not have the chance to pick up these guys. Yeah probably yeah not not great. Timing die jamie Waiver out waiver arbiter zero to ten ten meaning. You have potentially two starting quarterbacks for starting caliber running backs. Yes other fevers. Aren't exactly great. But they're they're very good number three receivers and a couple of starting tight ends so it's pretty exciting to to really great options in jalen hurts. Toni ballard if the especially pollard if he gets a chance to start obviously hurts based on what he's done. Yeah and this is the first week where i began while where there weren't fifteen wide receivers that That i found interesting. So it's oddly kind of week week for wide receivers but it's pretty good everywhere else. Yeah thank you like. You should be running to the running backs but it's week why it's a week week. All right forget your head in the lesson do segment new segment just for today. It's called the we hate the steelers. Tell me how the steelers screwed you. In a fantasy batch shave burleson wrote in and said non-ppp talked into playing juju. Even though he already whoa wait a team in my league. It wasn't him okay. Thank goodness j. A team in my league got talked into playing juju even though he already one just in case there was a stat correction. He lost by three or four. Because of the fumble oughta. that's horrible. Oh that's terrible. that's we hate the steelers for sure. Jamie adp league thought you had it locked up man. I did to celia the athletic and he was the to see the three seat and He was ahead by. Twenty points with tyler. Boyd rothlisberger ebron. So obviously the ebron boyd was negated because both of them had zero fantasy points with their injuries. So i thought okay rothlisberger. Give me shot. I was down by eight When the steelers were trailing twenty four ten. I thought okay. He'll get a touchdown in one of these two possessions that they'll get in the steelers i thought would rally and potentially time the game So when benny snell ran went on like okay. We'll get the ball back and he'll throw one in and sure enough. They went four now in the bengals Pulled off the upset. Very frustrating for For me in that league. Congratulations to jake butt. based on the email that you said i haven't checked i'm gonna go look but i was up the team. I share with my brother-in-law we were up with only rothlisberger to go. I think by eleven points hoping was not some screwy scoring in that i don't know and he said a he was actually on a trip him and his family and my wife and kids for this weekend so i called my wife l. Kyle my brother-in-law that we won and he goes. Oh no no. don't say anything. This burger has negative eleven. Points thankfully okay. He scored eight points right now. I believe so. Yeah yeah how about you. Do you hate the steelers. No i love the steelers. Oh you better hugs. Hugs and kisses to the steel city The only competitive game that i had left going to monday night was against jaime and it was a half pierre league. Jamie diontae johnson. I had mike hilton. And mika fitzpatrick and i was up twenty and i finished winning by about twenty. You know it's interesting not one day. Because i've now and all i know i was. I was thinking my team team is awesome in this league. Yes completely ravaged by injuries. This season michael. Thomas kenny golladay christian mccaffrey. There's a fourteen. This would have been my third time in. The finals. In four seasons had beaten dave and really good but i was. I was this. Was my running backs for this weekend. Including flex zack moss. Mike davis and jamal willing the boy. And i really thought you know. Let me take a shot on. Benny snell of one of those guys. But i'm like you know. Williams will catch passes. It was a favorable matchup. I thought maybe knows in garbage time he would play. Well he gets hurt Ozzy doesn't doesn't finish the game. Moss wasn't as he played well but obviously singletary broke off. Throwing had i played snell over to mall williams. What would the point. I don't think you would have won. Because johnson wasn't that great twenty and a half. Pr was johnson. Johnson was pretty good yesterday. I still i still would have fell short. I thought as williams with three points and snell was eighteen. So i'm so glad. I want to because i started. Kareem hunt over tony pollard. And usually when. I make a bad decision like that in a playoff game. It bites me it bit me. Last week with miles sanders going on my bench and a. I'm glad i survived and i guess i guess one of those being one of the thing that i did consider dave which would have put me ahead was i was really torn between drake. Want smith and michael gallup. And i played drake with the upside of starting with with. He got hurt too but at least gallup scored first. So if you had gone with gallup sniper gallup's now which i consider you would have you caught me. Well thank you congrats. Dave loves the steelers johnson. Benny snell came through johnson. Eight catches fifty nine yards and a touchdown a little tired of people killing the andre johnson for his inefficiencies yards per catch whatever the drops you can kill them for but like i mean th killed killed you. He did play catches. You gotta get on. Juju to and ben ben roethlisberger. Who was really awful. I guess what we'll talk about it a little bit more later camp leak that he's gonna play in twenty twenty one when he was a forty four hundred million dollar it on the table. Yeah that was That was a really bad performance coming off of that report but anyway the person who probably hates the steelers the boast is big steelers. Fan ryan wilson. Check out the pick. six podcast. He made a bet with john breach that he has to get a tattoo. That breach will now design if the steelers lost to the bengals. which of course seemed unfathomable. But it happened and ryan. Wilson is going to have to get a tattoo and this is pretty amazing and follow me on twitter. It's hysterical check out the pick six podcast. Top waiver wire priorities here. We go jamie. Gimme gimme a few names. Who were looking at. Jalen hurts and tony politics. Two stars hurts again. He's got five upside this week. he's in my five. I think there's a great opportunity against cowboys with what he's shown you as a russia. We talked about this last week. I was really excited about him last week. He was he was starting quarterback for me and starts it and he was really awesome. Forty-three fantasy points. So he's he's a star in the league winner and tony podcast. The same thing you know. He had twelve carries for what was it. Sixty yards and a touchdown are twelve carries for whatever yards the six six catches for sixty three yards and such. I'm sorry he had two rushing touchdowns and six guys for sixty three yards on nine targets. So he did a great job. Filling in for zeke elliot. He's been much more explosive than elliott is dealing with the calf injury and other great matchup against philadelphia. Struggled running backs late. So those are the two standouts by far. And then after those guys. I hope jeff wilson southeast dealing with an ankle injury. He's got a chance to be a starting fantasy running back this week with his matchup against the cardinals and the same thing for savant. Akhmed if myles gaskin is out so those would be the top four guys. I think shown you enough in the three times that he's played without gaskin Especially with this match of the suit against the raiders. He's got top twelve upside So hopefully gaskin sits out one more week. Okay first of all let me go back to pollard. The eagles do give up a lot of touchdowns but they have a good run defense and pollard. He had a forty yard touchdown. Dave talked about this on sunday. Four yard touchdown run other than that he play about eleven carries for like twenty five yards. I remember the stats right off the top of my head so i don't know if are you concerned about that and then the eagles are really good against pass catching running backs. So there's that there's also pollard wilson med. They all could be number two running backs on their team. You know zeke could be back. You never know with mustard and And gaskin i thought we were expecting gaskin. A comeback So it's hard to say when they're placed on the covid list we don't know that's true What so so. Yeah i mean how aggressive. I guess it's kind of a different question with two teams left but dave. You know what. I'm saying like do you seizure downside with these running backs the only the only downside beta i see in terms of adding them to your rosser forgetting about like what they could do for your fantasy team is is. If you're if you're debating getting them versus jalen hurts like if you need a quarterback and running back maybe made your final with ben roethlisberger and james robinson and and now you are going to feel good about going with either of those guys. How do you prioritize the list. And i think you've got to play it really safe here and take the quarterback who you know is going to play for the running back who and it's for all three of them. I think pollard would be the starter. I think he showed plenty for for the cowboys. Say okay we're we're going to let zeke rest. He's our future the position. Maybe let's just let them rest. Let's see tony pollard can do. And maybe pollard will be the future at the position. Wilson good running back capable of handling below against arizona. Let's let her with his ankle. Cool off Shut him down. Maybe for the rest of the season. Same thing with madden. Gaskin of gaskin isn't ready. But because there's a little bit of uncertainty especially with the first two guys pollard. wilson. I would prioritize hurts. I and lock in those fantasy points for the championship game. Is there a case. This data was it was fascinating on pollard. This is from an nfl network producer. Tony parker has as many twenty. Plus yard plays from scrimmage since week nine as ezekiel elliott has his last three hundred and forty five touches. It so going back. It's it's like and it's a good sign for pollard too. But i liked the reason. Why i feel okay with pollard. Even with that match up. Adam is because of the receptions and yes philadelphia is good against pass catching running backs. I still think. Andy dalton will lean on him in the passing game and there's potential for him to have another five catches unless they give up touchdowns they've allowed to running back to score again at least one hundred total yards in six games in a row. How about a lot of touch or running back and all but four games this year. Yeah so this is philadelphia. We're talking about and that's powers playing but this is a huge game. Every team is still alive in the nfc. So that makes me feel. Like if zeke can play they will they will bring him back. They are not going to just rest him. They're not auditioning for the future right. Now they're trying to win the division right but if pollard is their best player but do you think jerry jones is treating it that way but and they they they are in a tough spot because they. Here's what's going to happen. Playing if zeke playing. It's going to be both of them. Yeah there won't be one guy said percents of the snaps. It's going to be both of them in and out of the lineup. And that wouldn't be good so i guess. Could you make a case. That darrell henderson is the best waiver wire option. No because he stinks every time he gets an opportunity. Well that's not true. He was pretty good earlier this year. The samples is from the beginning of the season through the middle to the end and the lakers took over as was miserable. Yeah no i i think. He started playing poorly after the miami game when he hurt his ankle. I think it was his ankle. And i don't know if he's heard or not but he's been pretty bad since then and cam. Akers has taken the job but he was a pretty reliable running back You know what the situation is with seattle. You gotta score so you'll be okay. He scored against them in the first meeting. He had seven carries for twenty eight yards in that game. I mean just the track record for me is he's he's a flex at best so i think there's much more upside at this point in the day said you know we're talking about two managers for the most part in every fancy league now. There are people that are competing constellation game in some cases there are leagues appointed seventeen. So it's probably a little bit broader the scope that we're talking to people here but for the most part is just winner versus you know The teams playing for the job. So if you're starting darrell henderson. You're probably stuck these other guys though. Have so much more upside if they get those jobs. So if you're looking at henderson versus wilson versus pollard versus. You went through a benny snell in there to obviously with what he showed you last night. Also tough match-up. But no i just think henderson's behind those guys. Okay and dave what. Benny snell needs to be mentioned as well. Maybe connors back next week but smells been pretty solid. Three of the four games where he's got a lot of work. What about levy on bell. He's seventy three percent roster. I believe he is out there to you and pollard and wilson and prioritize them. Third if you can still get your hands on levy on bell like i'd rather have pollard wilson with the exception being that if you just absolutely have to play it safe and you want a guy who you know is going to play and have a good role bell will. We can say that about bill on tuesday morning. The thing the thing about levy on that makes me a little nervous as they are clearly going to the playoffs they are. I think locked into the ones not mistaken after pittsburgh loss last night because buffalo has three losses in pittsburgh to win this week. Okay so you have to win this week They just saw edwards helaire go down. They don't know what his status is for the play offs. Are they going to run. Le'veon bell into the ground. In this gained mix and match with their williams. Yes knowing that they have to have someone of a guy who they can trust including trust bell over williams. So i just don't know how much work bell we'll get in this game and maybe even next week at all they play so i'd be a little bit cautious about levy on bell after watching quite over hurt and plus. We just saw three weeks ago. Clyde edwards helaire was out and bell stunk but They've been running the ball a little bit more lately. So that's a good sign by the way. Jeff wilson said. He's fine. there are no issues. He did have an injury so if you take him out. That's that's a great side most out. Then it's a good thing for him. Obviously if you need any twenty points from your quarterback this week you're worry. I rallies burger. Maybe you're worried about russell wilson or something. Maybe jalen hurts isn't available. How about this. The all these quarterbacks are set up for at least twenty points baker mayfield. That the jet six last seven quarterbacks to face the jets scored twenty three or more. That six point for passing touchdown by the way trubisky against jacksonville. A quarterback scored twenty or more against jacksonville in eight straight games. Stafford's hard to trust. Because he's really injured but tampa bay has allowed nine hundred ninety nine hundred more fantasy points to eighth straight quarterbacks and twenty nine or more to four of their last six so they've been horrible against quarterbacks lately the bucks and to its song by low of five of the last seven quarterbacks the face the raiders have scored twenty four twenty one or more fantasy points. So it's really just loaded at at at quarterback loaded at running back not bad at tight end and wide receiver. you know. there's there are always wide receivers. In mentioned dalton. Also who's got a good match up as well given the state secondary looks like and he scored twenty or more and three of the five starts mates coming back. Yeah so we'll give you your news and notes and we'll give you more waiver. Wire names will recap that monday night. Game but cbs sports westinghouse are teaming up to give away ten prizes for the holidays. That's even better than the waiver. Wire is including a curved gaming monitor and a portable power station. Perfect for tailgates. You want one of these gifts people go to. Cbs sports dot com slash. Happy holidays to enter. We'll get the link in the episode description. The contest ends on christmas on december twenty fifth. Go to cbs. Sports dot com slash. Happy holidays. and ben. You're gonna have to remind me to put the episode link in the description because i know i'm on okay but i'm not going to forget about twitch tonight at eight. Pm our No not our last. We're gonna do next week as well. I assume but waiver wire tuesday night. I shouldn't say that i shouldn't commit to that sorry commitment issues anyway. Twitch eight pm tonight. Let's just do that. No twitch thursday. Right ben notes which thursday twitching sunday and the next tuesday will have season recap. That'll be our final. Which i knew it. I knew it all right so tonight at eight. Pm we'll see their twitch dot com slash f f. Today cam akers is out for the rest of the regular season with a high ankle sprain and zeki elliott might play. James robinson is an ankle injury. That's not exactly a situation where rushing grabs backup clyde edwards helaire same situation as cam akers christian. Mccaffrey could be back this week. Wouldn't that be. Nice george kittle. Could he be back this week as a chance. Oh my gosh. The blue say waiver wire seventy one percent rostered. Eric ebron tyler boyd. Left early. they did not have catches ito. Smith is atlanta's lead running back. Anybody want ito smith in kansas city. Obviously the falcons do their other choices. Absolutely suck yeah. He's been the best guy lately. There's no question. Yeah but their best guy is like the worst guy for fantasy. you've got to be super duper desperate to go with ito. Ito seattle is going to get greg olsen back this week. They could get josh gordon this week. Big game against the huge game against the rams you stefan gilmore is out for the season. John brown is a name we haven't mentioned yet but he could be a very popular waiver. Wire pickup and stefan digs hurt his foot. We know that we're expecting him to play that true. Yes okay the expectation is yes but they're gonna monitor it and other situation. Where how. How much will buffalo press him if he's not one hundred percent knowing that they're clearly headed for the playoffs yet but they've got a they've got a real chance to see. I don't know how much that matters. They're not getting a by anymore with a two seat but it is a nice thing to have they are. The two seat are better. Watch them are the to see right now. You should look at that. But they random tuesday right now. Yeah they took over They are eleven and three. Pittsburgh is eleven and three but they beat the pittsburgh steelers and when the steelers lose to the colts this week and the browns beat the jets. That's going to set up a week. Seventeen showdown right browns and steelers Now what happens if the steelers get ready for the nfl affleck's second. What happens if the steelers win this week. And the browns win because the steelers beat the browns earlier who'd get the tiebreaker. If the browns beat the steelers in week seventeen we know the steelers have a game and manage. Well their game up now so if they both win they go into week. Seventeen if the browns beat the steelers individual record. Who who's got the better would both end up at six two or six and two of that in that scenario. No no no. I'm searching the steelers would have the better record. So i guess that means the steelers clinched the division. If they win this week sounds rate broad desks. They do gotta win one more game to clinch the division All right let's go back to the waiver wire top three each position. Let's get some more names out there. Dave quarterbacks jalen hurts and hurts. One trubisky is to mayfield is three in. You only asked for three. So i won't tell you that mario's four so you said mayfield to know business into okay jamie. How do you tag. Jaguars it is. Jalen hurts one baker to trubisky through. Guy's gonna say hashtag jets. It may mean both of them have really good match ups but i baker is on fire. He's absolutely playing out of his mind looking like the number one overall pick from a few years ago Just fantastic reforms against giants. Obviously they were down several guys in their secondary but Four straight games of solid production fantasy wise and three straight games of just excellent football. He's playing very very well playing rhythm throwing well good accuracy. But i i think trubisky might have a little bit of a higher ceiling because the jaguars have a better chance of staying in it than the jets. No because i think the bears are willing to throw it either way and trubisky will run it a little bit more water prediction. The jaguars are going to win. And the jets are going to be so pumped. That's the you want that for the jets fan in your life. I don't really think that's going to happen but i. The jaguars are better than the jets. They might win another game. The jets not ours are actually smarter than the jets at this point. They got their win. They realize how stupid it was and now they're playing their worst quarterback gardner minshew all running back so we talked about. I don't know how much more we wanna get in. Let's just throw it out there again. Jamie running back priorities Let's put put levy on bell. Let's say bellboy now. Now rank them. Tony pires one. Simone akhmed is to jefferson's three levy on beltsville. Okay and so you're big concerns about baylor the workload. I just don't know how much that he'll actually have to play in this game. Because they typically throw to score they throw to win and they run when they feel like it. Plus le vian like good. Best game of the season was fourteen. Pbr points Obviously no edwards helaire. And the falcons run. Defense has clearly been better. Since we're he. Morris has taken over but they have allowed some production the last few weeks they did allow two touchdowns to another retread guy that everybody hates winter for net. So we'll see different offense different different animal. But i just don't know of lebanon's gonna walk walk in and get twenty plus touches in this game and have the success. I think that people are hoping yet. Twenty plus touches would be very surprising. Because daryl williams was definitely gonna have a role and you just don't see all you don't often see these running backs getting that that much work All right wide receivers. Dave who the top wide receivers this week. My top wide receivers russel gage. Whose given good pr numbers. Each of the past. Three weeks emmanuel sanders is right behind him. Higgins right behind him. None of these guys would be any better than the lowest of low and number two fantasy. Wideouts jamie's got a different name atop the list right. Yeah john restore for me. If digs out than john brunton an amazing role in john playing great before he got hurt. And now they're taking on the patriots team without stefan gilmore. That's clearly packing in at this point. So if way the josh allen playing if you telling me that the vaughn is out and john brown is in. He's number one by far is not clear. What if he doesn't sound like that's going to be the case. Though it sounds like digs is going to be okay. Taking chances with any of these guys like russell. Gehlot start higgins a lot as well. But i think if you're taking the most upside of any of these guys. It's john brown by far. Could you say. I really needed a receiver. I'm said everywhere else. Could i wait to pick up. John brown because i'm figuring that the one to three other fantasy managers in my league may not be as keen on adding brown and i can go and get i mean you can on or would you rather get brown. I knowing that gauge sanders higgins superstars. You could double back for them later. Brown ends up playing or if digs does end up playing. There's no superstar of this group. Gauges played well. But we know the chiefs have not given up fantasy points receivers all season long however fluky. Maybe it is. What it is higgins gets the jets great matchup. Will they run. Will they throw why. You're a little down on baker mayfield. As opposed to starting trubisky. You said the same thing about jared goff weaken that back in Back they play into proving itself wrecked by the jets performing the way that they did But i mean you know if if you think that. You can't get john if you think that you have to get one of those other guys to get guaranteed production than short. Don't take john brown. I but if you're looking for the most upside i don't see anybody genre. Well i think the other thing is john. Brown has been really good. Even when digs is played played every game. Young john brown. He still could have a really good game. Russell gauge at the chiefs is very interesting. Because the chiefs have allowed ninety seven yards or a touchdown to six wide receivers in their last six games. I'm sorry i'm just not buying that. They're against wide receivers. They yeah sometimes. Good wide receivers disappoint. But i'm just not buying it and those stats. I just gave doesn't even include lynn boden. Who counts as a running back in. Cbs scoring and he was pretty good against them so and then emmanuel sanders. He's i think he's a must start. When emanuel when healthy and michael thomas isn't he's a must start he had a seventy five yards and they and drew brees had a terrible game and now he's facing minnesota. I think you know. Seventy one percent. Roger opportunity i mean he just not in the range of the guys that we are we talking. You don't think he's in the russell gauge. No no no. He's running the percentage. Oh okay okay. If he's available sir. Sanders should be over john brown. Now second okay all right. So those are the prizes at least. It's john brown emmanuel sanders. Russell gaijin rashard higgins. Who's at the jets and the jets. Twenty second against wide receivers. What's what's the latest on. John brown like is it likely. He's activated off. Are he was practicing last week. But not off the list yet. So he's eligible. Does the same thing to kill. Okay so we. We don't know that he's for sure coming back. There's no guarantee there's no guarantee plays again. That's why it's to me it's up. It's an upside play if digs is out and if he plays then you're looking at him as a starting wide receiver where these other guys to me. Aside from emmanuel sanders. our number three receivers. Okay i just want to check one thing here. Because i want to see if he's in the projections so if you go to he was it. Yeah okay so if you're looking at wide receiver. Because the reason i bring it up is if john brown nod and the projections then he might not get picked up. People might not think to pick him up and that means. Maybe you should prioritize russell gate or something ahead of him if you're in a cbs league. I don't worrying right now if it's your title game you probably have multiple players on your bench that you know you're for sure not starting right so you can go and get both of them and if you wanna put brown i on your waiver wire priority system so no one else in your league can get them or whatever then go ahead. Then you've got to receivers than you. Just start the healthy all right. let's go to jamie. Who are the best tight ends to pick up this week. It take hooper for me. You know you saw both of them score last week. Both have very good matchups this week. Higby scored into his last four to his last three. So maybe he's getting hot at the end of the season again like he did last year. I don't expect it to be the same thing because at this point last year was amazing taking on seattle defense. That's really been bad against that. Couldn't stop logan thomas last week. So he's in a good spot and then who gets the jets. No they've been miserable against items including higby last week so both guys. If you want to gamble have good opportunities to beat up on some defenses. That have really struggled with tight. Ends all the jets are like the cardinals now. There are that bad against the. It's really amazing. So you like hickory. Better than hooper. i've gone back and forth on both. I think just a little bit more. Involved in his offense hooper so touchdown boss. At this point it would not surprise me scores but that could be two catches for six yards and a. That's just kind of that line. That he's been giving completely helps. That acres is out because of that. Run game can't get going they're gonna have to lean on other guys to help move the chains and hippies a perfect one for that yet shrager. Just got me tyler. Heavy snap count snap share last three weeks. Eighty three percent or more Three straight everett left last week for be. He had a concussion. He was checked for a concussion. He passed the protocol but it doesn't matter it's three straight weeks. Eighty three eighty seven. Eighty four percent snap share. They are going more to tight ends lately. But i think some of that is a byproduct of them running the ball more. Yeah i'd like to know what his route percentages. Maybe shrager can come up with that. He's pretty good at this kind of all right We'll see what about a third guy. If i can't get hooper higby at the bengals have been batting. Instead ends for the majority of the season he just add five targets so hopefully he has opportunity here once again to be a target Being option for shawn watson. It's not a great week for for the guys past those two because the other options the that stands out to me would be would be five just in case. There's a chance kentucky's out. Because the raiders about against tight ends but in terms of like the guys that are under sixty five percent now. Obviously george kills should be picked up just in case he starts. You still see. Logan thomas was out there and one of our leagues. I was shocked. Our magazine league. Logan thomas available week so people may drop noah fant as well coming off a strong game great match against charter so there are some guys that could be available in terms of that range but in terms of the rain that we simply talk about me hooper and really nobody else. Dave do we like any streaming this week. The cardinals are my favorite of the ones that are available in more than forty percent of cbs leagues. If the bears are still out there then you can grab them available in thirty eight percent but cardinals. I'll take the chance on the texans against the bengals offense chargers panthers arizona's my favorite's the forty niners especially if there's no Mullins under center right. That's a possibility it might be better. If moans understand maybe he maybe yeah very turnover. But i'll i'll colonels either way. Forty niners are giving tons of points to opposing the. Sat's are there any dsp's that we'd normally start that we would start say the bears or the Or the cardinals over. Yeah steelers against the colts. You start the bears and would you start the cardinals over the ors. Yup i would interesting about the steelers about the rams at seattle. I've got the rams one spot behind the steelers and so cardinals. Aram sorry cardinals. Bears are rams. There's and who do you like kernels. Steelers rams for me. It sounds like jamie likes the rams over the steelers. What about seahawks while behind them. Not too far behind but behind them okay. It'd be interesting to see what the seahawks they've had such an easy schedule lately. See what they do against the rams. I wish they would flex that game but tennessee green bay. Good for sunday night. That's not bad we'll take that's actually awesome. That's a great game should be fun. Got some teams are really stepping up now. Tennessee there's going to be who who check their fantasy scores going into sunday night. And they're like yes. I'm up fifteen. And then they look. And they see hit star henry and aaron rodgers. I done not excuse me. I was down in the league. That's pr with very heavy scoring for dsp's. I was down one hundred points going into foreclosure games on sunday and S we have jalen hurts. Jalen hurts miles sanders. The andre hopkins and travel kelsey. But i was against the rams defense. This was this was factoring. One hundred points. We start with twenty five points on defensive scoring. And i'm like there's no chant the rams are gonna slaughter the justice. I'm done And so i didn't look through the first half knobs down watching the game. So i'm seeing her do well. I saw kelsey score. I see hopkins doing okay. So halftime i check. And at that point i cut it to fifty and so i'm like okay. Maybe i got shot if this keeps up. There's no way hurts. Gonna keep doing this and hopkinson scored that point and kelsey kind of petered awful. But and then i check again after the third quarter and to twenty and so now. I'm texting with the guy who said yeah. This is a great and we're clearly like the semifinal off the charts. The other one is much more low scoring we both would have won easy and so i'm texting with him. This is a brett trustee. Dave it's a former. Cbs sports former sportsline employees. From way back in the day so texting with him. He's like oh you're gonna you're gonna catch me. This is awful and i ended up beating. My twenty was like hopkins had the long our reception. It was but down. The left sideline touchdown congrats. That's he's going gonna eat at him for months. Ashore chokes man. He should feel really bad about that. He did horrible hundred points. I was like oh. My god get me. That's awesome any kickers to pick up. Yeah ryan suck up. You know because a lot of people dropped him. Detroit is a lot of production and kickers. If you're willing to risk it cody parkey deaths. I think our number one fantasy points allowed to kickers least they were last week and fairbairn taken on the bengals home game. Don't worry about weather. And you know that. The texans offense will probably move the ball against cincinnati defense cool. I we'll take a break when we come back. Cincinnati twenty-seven pittsburgh seventeen and more waiver wire debates for a here on fantasy football today. We have time. We'll try to read some e mails as well. Be right back. Cincinnati with a ten point. Win over pittsburgh. I think it dawned on me i. I don't know. I still kinda felt like at halftime. That the steelers were gonna win. I'm not for sure gonna win when they came out on fire in the third quarter when the johnson called the touchdowns i okay. It's over. i was so bad yesterday. They were so what you do. Never count out. Ryan finley's rushing abilities defenses so beaten up pittsburgh. It's like going into week. Sixteen when i saw a few of my my championship teams thousand. And i'm like. Oh well john taylor is gonna have a good game but not a great game and then they lost another linebacker and it's just like they can't stop anybody against the wrong. Well i'm to be fair. They did pretty well against the geneva. Twenty five carries for eighty three yards. He scored two touchdowns. Let's talk about giovanni bernardo because he might be available. Yes let's talk about you guys doing all the work and he's at houston this week. That's a not match. Come on so talk about you. You don't have to love it but you have to talk about. Yeah he's in the flex conversation you know. I would take all the guys that we're talking about here over including benny snell. Including darrell henderson. Guys that i have a little bit tougher match ups because at least you know their workloads will be consistent. There's also turned approximate. You don't think giovanni bernard's going to have a bigger role than darrell henderson. He probably will but mixing mixing returned to practice last week if they decided to play him. Who knows i just. Don't wanna trust the bank. That's kind of what it comes down to. I'm sure dave product does bernard is just a a guy who's led us down more times than not very surprised performance. You know for for the bengals. Obviously buffer bernard mostly and part of it. Is i think them playing with the lead helped. I don't think there'd be playing with league texas even though the texans aren't great. Yeah it was definitely a surprise performance and trusting the bengals a good fantasy strategy. How 'bout dave how about trusting the steelers. How many of them are you going to trust this week. Against the colts. I'm okay with snell. Connor doesn't play it. Sounds like there's a chance connor could play. So you got to keep an eye on that and you just gotta wait and see johnny. Johnson is clearly ben rothlisberger favorite receiver look at the targets even last week when he was benched for almost two quarters. He seven targets in the game so he's an easy start especially in having juju. Were claypool at this point though. Could be a little bit tougher. I guess judy you could probably make the case for a low in number two receiver and claypool is a boom bust. Lacks all right. And that's that's the end of that chapter. There was so many good movies on last night. So i wasn't higgins and boyd. I'm sorry higgins. aj green. If you're completely stuck higgins better the two by far but avoids out the concussion. That's a miserable secondary that they're playing and probably chasing points. And so you know if you're desperate for a number three even deeper leagues reflects option. I would look at higgins if he was dropped and even degree and i talk about talk about movies and brought it back to fantasy football. That's ridiculous but now this is my. I hate the steelers. I would just really wanted to watch. The dark knight rises. I cannot not watch that movie is on. I have to watch it. No but i just. It's so it's so. I'm gonna i'm gonna set you up. You are a manager your fantasy manager. I can't do it anymore. I cannot do impressions. that's been working on my elbow. You listen you listen and you do what i tell you. You're a fantasy manager talking about talks whose kids charge. Yes there you go your fancy manager and your brain and you're staring across the steelers. Who are batman in the dungeon and whatever it was. Yeah yeah i do. I can't it was good. But i was. I can't i can't do. Just what might bring back is if you just the line that you say i was waiting. I can't do it. I i was wondering to get there are no. I can't do it anymore. i'm sorry. I can't say i was wondering i was wondering what would break first. Big ben rothlisberger spirit. That i can't do it. I just like i don't have it anymore. I used to be good at impressions. Just not good anymore but somebody shattered your confidence. No i don't i can't do it anymore. What do you think about my elmo. No this is going to hurt. I can't do it anymore. I just like just nervous about elbow. But i've been doing a lot of alamo and it's pretty good and cook cookie while as well and that's that's my life a lot of bunch of orioles and there have gone because of me. All right waiver wire drew brees. Drew brees is available. You picking him up or hurts or is hurts ahead of everyone hurts everyone. Yes all right is hertz. Top-five this week for you. Yes i currently have them fifth. He may fall as far as seventh. Okay so then. Let's do drew brees versus baker. Mayfield mitchell trubisky. Who would you go with. I currently a breeze. One spot ahead of trubisky and three spots at mayfield. How many of them would you start. Oh i'm sorry. How many then would you start over. Russell wilson as hurts and i started brees and considering baker. I've got hurt. Sprees and mitch all ahead of russell wilson. And i'm considering baker over russell wilson to. Where do you have wilson. Something number is the number for me. is thirteen. blackie thirteen now about to sing the number of the day song from sesame street all right. What if Philip rivers available at pittsburgh any interest. No to a tongue i low. He just doesn't throw a lot. But you know the raider stink so thoughts on tour if he is back. He's much more interesting. If because yucky and parker play but like you said they should be able to win. This game with mario on the other side and i think this is a Not a huge game two but a game. If you're stuck and you need a fantasy quarterback he's okay in that regard to or rothlisberger. I'm rothlisberger higher. That's one. I'm going to look at this week. Too far rothlisburger is falling for me. Yeah what about any dalton or rothlisberger. I've rothlisburger i'll probably stick with that. Okay so is rothlisberger rankings updated right now minor not. They're not okay then. Never mind all right. So mariota is also an option to the dolphins are really good. They've fourth-best against quarterbacks. Mario was fantastic last but hard to hard to expect that. But that's who you're turning to. If you're in a deeper league in hurts was already picked up trubisky in mayfield. Were already picked up this. Who's left is mario. Yeah i would take doll novarum. I would take over him like you said adam. They've been amazing against quarterbacks in their last five games six gives me Only one quarterback over eleven fantasy points now as mahomes who had twenty one so down renfro already it's Down rugs vs not able to play. There's there's much mariota can do in this matter. where do you anticipate ranking matthew. Stafford if he plays against tampa bay still low. Not top twelve. But i had a roster. He's just he's just too much of a liability to leave the game early just so injured. What about gardner menchu. You know not. why not. Because they think he's he's like a solid twentyish. He scored nineteen points against baltimore. That's not bad. He's scored twenty two or more points and five of seven starts and the bears. They're not that good against quarterbacks so now it's not interested in to back super flex lease. You're starting documents you in one quarterback league if you've got this far i'd rather play mario. I feel like andy. Dalton is safe for eighteen to twenty one so he's been right around that pretty much each of the last three or four games kind of think when she does have a little bit more upside than dalton all right. Let's go to the running backs if you see zack moss. How would you feel about that. Dave richard i'd say hey zac what's up. Yeah dapper them up see if he wants to go. Get a bite to eat or something like that. Because i'm always eating. Oh you're talking fantasy. I think he's like number three running back not somebody. I'd be super excited about if i could take a total detour. Here thing about dave seeing someone. You had a very nice tweet about kevin greene and i did. Yeah would you like to share sure. Kevin greene came to one of our fantasy football shows. He was a guest. He was a speaker there back when we were doing fantasy. Shows jamie love those like four or five year and he loves football and he even loved sitting in front of a bunch of some sports bar and miami dude talking football and was coaching them up on. You know the differences between three four and four three and you know what would he looks for in a good defense stuff like that but he was totally engaged into it and smiling and taking pictures with fans and like for a day. I got to know. Kevin greene a little bit and it was exciting. I watched this maniac play on sundays. When i was a kid and fast forward to going to the hall of fame two years ago for the king classic draft and his bust is unlike any other bus because of his hair. And it just it stands out when you're in the gallery of heroes so was cool to meet him. Cool the norm for the day. And i'm really sad. He's gone he. He was somebody that made a difference in in pro football what. I didn't realize that he only played three years with the steelers in my mind. He's like a lifetime. Steeler actually played most of his career with the rams finished with the panthers hall of fame. Linebacker kevin greene very sad to see the news yesterday and that was a good man. That's young yeah terrible. All rights is also a good wrestler. Yeah that's right. Wcw had a match with steve mcmichael. That got a lot of attention. This he he lived a life man he lived life. It's a lot more said he's gone as far as the running backs. I you know sony michelle if you know against buffalo if damian harris is out would rather have sony michelle or the s the other guy. Darrell henderson tennyson. But i'd still rather have henderson if we're in a deep league jerick. Mckinnon daryl williams. Who's better way. The upside of darwin's unless wilson's out. I go back to moscow second though because you see what new england's defense has been the last two weeks and the last i these two teams met. He went for eighty one yards in two touchdowns against them. So you could do. Worse than zack moss. This week how about the jaguars michelle how about the jaguars running backs and frank gore going up against cleveland. That like it's honestly been three pretty good games. Recently for frank gore and a ton of world war was that i go gore over a jaguars running back. But would you gore over darrell henderson. No nope okay. And we're not interested in nato smith right wide receivers so let's take a look at the guys who might be available in your leagues but they are rostered in more than sixty five percent of leaks and tell me who you like. Tell me how much like them. Zero to ten. On the ato meter tee higgins going up against houston. Five curtis samuel at washington. Six five markey's brown against the giants. Seven sounds good. Nelson agholor against the dolphins six three point seven. Yeah without mario. I don't know it's not as good or with mario. You mean without without car car with mariota manual seals the throat and he got a time apparently he said eight targets against Against the chargers just wasn't good with them emmanuel sanders going up against minnesota on christmas. Seven jamie say number nine. Nine kiki cutesy against the bengals eight six point eight all right so it sounds like sanders marquees. Brown and kikuchi are our favorites. They're markey's brown's been on fire. Three straight games with a touchdown then. He didn't have one last week but had ninety eight yards against jacksonville. It's not an easy matchup per se. But i doubt he will be shadowed by james bradberry. So yeah he's looking good right now finishing strong going to give us a lot to think about going into twenty twenty one. That's for sure other than that. We got john brown. We got russell gauge. We've got Lynn boden and chad hansen. They've been good jamie. How do you feel about voting enhancing. If there's no parker koseki grant. I love limbo in this week. Because the raiders. Think and so. It's a great opportunity for much easier matchup than he had last week so you know flex because he could play running back as well so keep that in mind for stuck at running back to but The nice thing is you'll know about the dolphins status earlier because their game is on saturday so many decisions for your teams on sunday. All right talk to me about the giant talk me. Sorry about the washington game and carolina. I if i have robby anderson. Am i starting russell gauge starting john brown. My starting chad hansen over robby anderson. I think the first thing you should it brown plays especially if digs is a engages. Well dave i tyler lockett. What am i doing this week. You can consider other options. But i probably just suck it up with lock it. Sorry the we're talking about in the correct answer is you are sitting out and watching football because you are no longer in the fantasy you the team and still have tyler lockett on play advancing a couple of weeks with lock it now. I'm just kidding. But lock it against the rams. I mean who've boy he's been bad for most of the last ten or eleven weeks and sherpa. Wilson is going to be sensitive throwing at jalen ramsey and if ramsey's on decay metcalf that should mean a lot of targets for lock it. What did you last time. i don't remember. I don't think it was very good wasn't an arizona game. I know that let's see. Let's check the game log here. What was it five for sixty six. I don't like it one of his better games recently. Eleven points give. Give yourself the option. He did have ninety nine targets if the eagles are gonna if jalen hurts going to be. Our top quarterback obviously is going to run but the cowboys have given up Ninety two yards or a touchdown to a wide receiver in every game. Who's gonna be jamie for the eagles. Well jalen jalen rigor to keep an eye on that if he doesn't play and regular lead them in targets last week. So then it becomes the mess of greg ward quiz watkins. And alshon jeffery. I would probably lean toward just because he had this to touchdowns and the targets were basically the same was like five or six each to those guys so i would just prioritize ward if you're if you're in a deeper league and then maybe look jeffrey and watkins as well but he seems to have a connection. Ward who also threw a touchdown to in. I believe the game. We came in for wentz two weeks ago. Yes that's true. I agree with you. But i did notice that alshon was getting a couple of like more than a couple. I think it was three or four deep ball targets. Or he's running. Aside sideline go route and drew up defensive. Pass interference on one caught another one. So there's there's appeal with alshon there to not that i would want to start him. He would be behind ward for me. Darnall moonies a deep league option. Jaguars are terrible against wide receiver. And then i got to ask you about kendrick bourne richie james got. Her and born only had four targets be caught all them for eight hundred. Zero horn had a hail mary on game. That is true. Hail mary catch on the last play kind of pump. the push. But it's really the richie james injury. And who isn't if doesn't play if richard you might get ten p. pr points out of kendrick bourne. Okay well. I thought we had to say his name. I'm glad we did tight ends now. This roster percentages are just so weird this time of year. I can't imagine there are too many leagues. Where mike sickie and logan. Thomas and noah fant are available but jamie just said logan. Thomas was available last week. And he's coming off a great. In one of his league's he's coming off a thirteen. Catch one hundred one yard performance. So how'd you sit him. Panthers have been horrible against tight ends lately. would obviously be a good start at las vegas. How would you feel about it at the chargers. this week. they've allowed ten touchdown to tight ends at third most in the nfl. Noah thank you. I was wondering where you were going with that. He stopped twelve. He is especially in. Pr was involved and drew. Lock looking for him with matchups. Good like you said so. You could buy back. Yeah he had seven catches for forty seven yards in the first meeting against the chargers. We like higby and hooper. If you can't get them you look at jordan. Akins and jamie mentioned. Durham smyth for the dolphins if cities out what about the guys who are the flavor of the week last week coal commit at jacksonville. Irv smith at new orleans and he interests there. Okay the concerns me about and you could obviously make the case with with baker but with trubisky. They're actually running the ball. And that's you know last week. Thirty two carries david. Montgomery was amazing. I see doing the same thing this week. Dawson knox dan arnold knox's at new england. Dan arnold has san francisco both teams great against tight ends. Are they sits. Thanks no thank you. I mean. I think at this point. It's kinda like you said it's super maybe if those guys are available and then you just kind of crossing your fingers with some of these other other guy's if you're stuck like irv smith might be interesting again if you wanna take that chance to go that route with them but the fact that they didn't feature more was little frustrating. Yeah conklin had too much work there. And there's one more guy. Zach ertz zach ertz at seven targets two catches sixty nine yards is facing dallas. They've been a lot better against tight ends lately. But what do you. What's your interest level on. Hurts sixty five percent roster date not very high he had. He had a couple of big catches last week but I i don't think he's ever going to get back to that. Main target role in philadelphia. Okay i should probably put him third. He nickens naked and it can get gets end zone and keeps dropping touchdowns the job to drop one against the bears. We probably be thinking about him a lot differently if he caught. Those and jared cook is also something like earth or cook. Cook cook earned. Dsp's bears texans cardinals. Bears are at the jaguars. Texans get the bengals This one really makes me nervous though because like houston has been so bad all year. They were bad against the jaguars. They were bad against the patriots. They were bad at the bears. They were good one time against the jaguars. But i don't know how do you balance this. I know it's a great matchup band. There's such a bad defense texans. All right well. here's the thing about it. And then the cardinals. Dave likes the cardinals lot. They've been good in through their last four games. They have fourteen sacks in their last two games against the giants and eagles. And the niners have been a very good matchup lately ryan suck up cody parkey fairbairn or your kickers. We have a little bit of time going to read some emails guys. If you wouldn't mind. I was not prepared for this. So just give me a moment. let me let me get those e mails. He's reading obtained voice. Please read into being voiced. Please read in a bain voice. So how are you guys doing. How are you feeling today. I'm feeling good. I just need like okay here. We go from christopher Jeff wilson jeff wilson tony. Pollard and g. jd mckissic. Pick to in our wilson pollard. Mckissic hollered wilson. Okay i'm pr. I'd probably put what. I put mckissic over wilson paula root. For sure be there. I think i'd do it okay. And a dsp. Rams browns cardinals. Bills brown brown's okay. Just like you knew it was gonna be at the beginning of the year. Let's see what else we got from ryan ryan from the home of of the walleye and mud hens so toledo. Yes that sounds very my year twenty plus year. Cbs league has used the highest scoring teams advancing to the next round and all playoff weeks. I think i like that. I think i like that happened to me this week. I was the second highest scoring team and moving on As chris stated on. Monday show that that should be considered as an option for leaks. No chris i said that. That's me baby say. I don't remember what chris said. I think chris and ben were anti. Maybe you were there you paying attention chris. Chris liked it. I'm against it's not. How any playoff system works any competition. You'll ever see if your fantasy league is points scored and you're not playing head-to-head each week. Then that's how your plan should be. But if you're playing head-to-head each week like normal fantasy league than social playoffs okay. All right wasn't really a question. They were just that comment for matt in toronto. No i don't wanna read this one. See this is what happens when i don't prepare. I'm gonna say this one for a later date. It's the question is what is your dream league set up. I want some starters sits right now. Let's see if this is starter set. Okay here we go. This is from travis in city and mid michigan dave. Oh god mid michigan. I don't know if i can come up with anything. So let's just go with grand rapids. Which is definitely not mid michigan. Dear brian kirk jeff. And connor michigan state quarterbacks or something could be maybe we'll senator tannahill. Is you get point. Two points for passing i am yeah tannehill andrews or hopkinson half pr. Anders andrews in parker dj. Moore's gonna take the three. Hopefully you can start. Tilting to travis is playing his girlfriend so big big week for him and he's gonna lose either way one more from bt. No this is not a question tonight. I was down by eight point. Three two points with the browns defense left to play. I didn't get into the last minute of the fourth quarter with a sack. The final was won. Sixty two point five four to one sixty one point eight six damn one on a sack in the last minute. that's awesome. Congratulations to be t at is big time bt. That's it for us for dave jamie and ben. I'm adam thanks a lot of the best rewarded. The browns rewarded people this week but left them disappointed. The week for refreshing. Yeah the the safety at the end of the game. Oh that's exactly. I remember now now that you provided the i remember all right. That's it everybody. Thanks a lot without the on twitch. tonight we'll talk to you tomorrow with the little dynasty. Talk a little tough call for week. Sixteen off the drill.

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The Mike Tomlin Post-Game Press Conference Recap: Steelers Bengals

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:44 min | 6 months ago

The Mike Tomlin Post-Game Press Conference Recap: Steelers Bengals

"Support for this. Podcast comes from neutrogena. Hydros does your day last all day. Keep your skin dewey. Soft and smooth all day neutrogena highly roenick acid serum quenches skin with two sizes of highly onic. Acid dermatologist recommended glycerin and vitamin b. Five just apply in the morning for fragrance free hydration that seals it in for twenty four hours. Neutrogena hydro boost highly ronnie acids serum stayed dewey soft and drenched in hydration learn more at neutrogena dot com pittsburgh steeler fans. It is time once again for another mike. Tomlin head coach post game press conference breakdown from behind the steel curtain dot com. My name is michael back. Deputy editor of said website and the steelers have lost three consecutive games. Mike tomlin obviously Frustrated with his team and you could really tell that from his press conference this week especially He started off his press conference by wishing the family of kevin greene his condolences. Of course the hall of fame Pass rushing specialist. Kevin greene passed away at the age of fifty eight Earlier on monday Coach tomlin would move onto the match up after giving his condolences to the green family. And he said this was an uphill battle from the gecko but he thought his team did have a good The bengals rather had a good plan. Going up against the steelers. He thought they were successful in what they were able to do and what they wanted to do. Throughout the duration of the game coach. Tom tomlin also made a very blunt statement. He said we are not football team right now and of course you look the steelers. The past three weeks really the last four weeks. They have been terrible I talked about this during the game. But if the steelers had started the twenty twenty season like how. They're playing right now. They would be in contention trevor lawrence. That's how bad they have been as of late Coach tomlin ended his his opening thoughts. with his injury breakdown starting off. A derek watt. Who's a concussion. Eric ebron left game the back injury and marcus allen. Who had a stinger marcus allen. Of course being the only player that could return to the game The timeline on derek. Watt and eric. Ebron is still yet to be known getting into question periods. Right off the top coach. Tomlin was asked about the bengals ability to run the ball. And why they were so successful Coach told me really highlighted. The quarterback design runs Really just pointing out to that and how they were so successful and good for them Being able to kind of hide the ball and move move the chains consistently by running those type place coach. Tom was asked bluntly whether or not he liked. His team's preparedness. Mike tomlin basically just said he likes his team preparedness for this week. I don't think mike tomlin will ever tell you. He's unhappy with how his team prepared for any individual game Combs and asked about ben rothlisberger into really can simplify his answer. He said my ben. Roethlisberger wasn't good enough Continuing on with the press conference he would get back into ben rothlisberger a little bit later on but continuing with this press conference mike tomlin was asked about whether or not he hit his sense of his team's confidence Competence level right now and. He said his team better. Not be confident. Right now because of the performances. They've put out the last number of weeks however His team needs to develop a be mentally tougher as the weeks. Go forward as they need to get prepared for. The play offs coach tomlin was asked another very simple broad question Simply can this team be fixed and coach tomlin's one word answer yes Coach tomlin was kind of just ask more broad general questions about the game Coach someone really did emphasis emphasize the fact that the steelers turn the ball over and the bengals did not and that is something team cannot do be successful in any given week. Coach was then asked about the halftime adjustments of this team and why the saw a little bit more success. Starting the second half coach tomlin didn't say it was about place at all but it was about his guys not playing well enough in the first half which to me sounds concerning because that's one of the things that's a steeler fans have been complaining about in recent weeks. His at this team is in Adjusting at all when they come out of the break for the second half. If you're gonna listen to coach tomlin on that one. Sounds like the team didn't make any judgments again. They just had their guys played a little better in the second. Half which is a little bit concerning coach. Phone was asked about. Benny snell success and whether or not he was able to use him. More coach tomlin said yes he. They do wish they were able to benny snell a little bit more as he was having a fairly successful down the ground. But when you fall behind in the nfl you cannot rely on your running game. It's a coach dolman also mentioned in his answer. Here that's one of the reasons why the bengals were so successful at rushing the passer because of that big hole and knowing the steelers had to throw the football coach tomlin was then asked about his thoughts on the playoffs in a house. Team can be focused on that coach salmon once again. Staying true to form just said. His team only focuses on the next tax task at hand which is of course. Six days time the steelers will be taking on the indianapolis colts at home. Of course a loss makes the week seventeen showdown with the cleveland. Browns a match up for the afc. North title in cleveland It is growing increasingly possible by the week that the steelers browns will have to play each other in two consecutive weeks. The steelers need to right the ship fast and they have to be thenia annapolis colts at home. Which is not going to be an easy task with the struggling offense and one of the best defensive. Nfl coming to town. After the steelers have had four dud games interro the final question of question period Coach tomlin was asked about ben rothlisberger and whether or not he thinks it is weaker at this point in the season than it was at the beginning of the season coach. Tomlin says not from my perspective. There's a lot to really kind of dive in on that. Answer i think at some point coach tomlin kinda just vouching for sky but man. Oh man was that set. Possibly the worst game of ben rothlisberger career Out there in. Cincinnati tonight That wraps it up for mike. Tomlin's press conference breakdown. The steelers were awful years going to be a lot of Blowback after this game. It's going to be an interesting Final two weeks of the season. The steelers fall to eleven three after starting the year. Eleven annot Right now i hesitate to call them. Eleven three they look like an o n three football team to be completely honest. So the pittsburgh steelers right now are battling for their their lives. Of course they already clinched a playoff spot It could be very short season after such a promising start. So that wraps things up for me for the mike tomlin press conference breakdown. Four week fifteen. We will catch you in the next one. Make sure you're tuned into behind steel curtain clicking over the website you're gonna get some great insight and analysis on this past game and some great previews for the indianapolis colts game moving forward. Also make sure to check out the entire behind the steel curtain family of podcasts. As we're gonna have great content for you each and every day all steelers all the time your one stop shop for all things. Pittsburgh steelers behind the steel curtain dot com. Thank you for tuning in my name. Is michael beck and we will catch you in the next one.

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BTSC Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 1: A Steelers/Ravens game broke out in Pittsburghs 19-14 win

Behind the Steel Curtain

33:50 min | 7 months ago

BTSC Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 1: A Steelers/Ravens game broke out in Pittsburghs 19-14 win

"Support for this podcast come from. Cdw in del technologies betsy. Wg we get the migration. See to a hyper converged. Infrastructure is challenging. Like decaf got. Do it gotta do it. Slowdown frowned. Cdw jeez experts can help simplify your transition from legacy to hyper converged infrastructure with dell emc solutions that offer speed and agility. Have you done it. is it done yet netanya. It orchestration by cdw people who get it find out more at cdw dot com slash dell emc pittsburgh steelers fans. What is going on. This is jeff. Hartmann co editor of behind the steel curtain dot com with you for another. And we've only had these victory postgame press conferences. This season. the steelers win again. They sweep the baltimore ravens. They are eleven and oh on the regular season. It is amazing. The stretch that they're going on this one was a little bit tough to swallow. We're gonna talk about that at length year during this podcast joining me as always dave scofield. Other co editor behind the curtain. What's up dave ob still. Did you win. The game kicked off and it just not feel like this was the real thing going on. Just it just never felt right. It felt like i was watching a replay on. Nfl network or something like that. Because it was at four o'clock on a on a wednesday it. It was hard to get into the game. It was a weird time. But i tell you i figured out how important was by the end. Who that's right brian. Anthony davis podcast producers. What's up brian. How are you. hey. I'm happy. I'm dave man that was. That was just weird. I watched the first half from my car on my phone because of because of something. I like to call a real job and was out there and we offended by that jeff. Gannon two jobs actually. No i'm sorry my my career job and but but you know in fact i've more flooded this but what i'm saying is a trying to finish watching it. I got the full experience. But i wasn't in my regular position you know how superstitious have become so i. I was hoping they have a great leave. So i could go to my new chair but i never was able to do that in the whole time. I felt like they could blow this and it was just a weird game all the way around. I'm really interested to hear. Mr john harbaugh and all the crying and whining. That's gonna come out of out of that pie hole. There's going to be a lot of it for a lot of reasons both. Let's start the show off like well. Actually you know what let's change it up a little bit. Let's change it up a little bit and let's actually go with special guest here. That was someone who's just observing guys got you bring them on if he wants. That's up to you. We'll bring him in for his knee jerk. Reaction monday jerk not to warn you guys. You do the article and that's all you gotta say. Oh you want to go on. Let's see just catch the dag on football. I did we ever count. On how many drops they had game. I wanna say it was seven. I believe i thought at one point. I saw eight and then countered another one but i thought it was. Yeah it was a lot for a big brokerage. Welcome to the show sean. Manahan gives us five dollars. Eleven nine eleven. No that is right. Eleven is eleven. And i said this after the on twitter after the game as you know what is it exactly. That eleven to know is eleven. No i'm sick of justifying win. I'm not going to do here either. That doesn't mean that. I'm not going to criticize the football team. But i'm sick of justifying. Well they should have won by more screw that they won the football game. That's what matters mark and former podcast or for binding curtain dot com says. What do you do steelers. Eleven and here we go. Can we all take a moment. And bank mini din. Chazan vincenzo williams. Thanks number ninety. He was the one that need to stop on justice hill and he's also the one that laid on was a gus edwards. Who was the running back at the end of the half that he was kind of laying on a purple jersey. That was i guess at work. I think it was his game so then he laid on gas in the fetal position until someone actually physically removed from the file. Hey it's not like he's the only person in the national football league would or ever has done that Michael clark is four ninety nine. Is this the first time since two thousand and eight. We have swept the ravens. Does rainy land have some to do with this. Should we air it out. More and run. Were we're gonna talk about that all the day. I'm gonna ask your brian. Is this the first time since it. They've swept him before that. Schumer regency seventeen. Did they sweep him seventeen. I think you might be right. I think he might right. I'm going to double check double check on that west hickok. He gives us five dollars. He said winners win. But enough is enough to heck with the outside noise become on. The lack of execution needs to stop defense. Got done. thank god. Yeah i mean. The acution weakened absolutely criticizes team. I'm not saying there beyond reproach here of five dollars from what the i dunno. Five dollars have what is that. What okay family just need. This game would be sloppy too much too much change hope but is okay and hope the wide receiver spawn new hands not just wide receivers one tight end as well. Let's go with grayson. Brown gives us four ninety ninety sub. Guys i don't know how we survived this game but hey levin l tomlin presser is gold. Hey he said he said bud got hurt. That did not say significant seniors cross on bud. Let's talk about bud. Dupree right off the bat. Because it's important davor. You hearing anything new no honest verifying. It was two thousand seventeen when they when they swept the very good only report. He said that budget did get hurt. He's being evaluated. he'll tell us more tomorrow. That's thursday 'cause tunnel media thursday at noon to discuss everything under the sun so That that will probably no more i. My guess is that we were actually hear something this afternoon evening. It just seems like one of the insiders whether it's ian rapoport or tom placebo. They all adam schefter. They always seem to find out some of these nuggets. We'll find out by the end of the show. Sadly this is how it went down with. was the devon bush where we weren't sure that during the show he found out of the season ending. Acl he was listed as questionable to return to the game. Let's keep that in mind. I'm not saying that's whatever. But when when devon bush left the game he was out he was not coming back. Maybe that's a a silver lining in the cloud. Maybe that's meeting super optimistic. I don't know we'll see but if anyone saw that play and i saw it live. I saw him down because he actually had the edge on the tackle. And i'm waiting for him to sack. The quarterback he just falls down on the ground is buds. That's a good. It's a non contact so we'll see fingers crossed over the spurs of debris. No one wants to see anyone get hurt but if he is heard too big loss for this pittsburgh steelers defense said how many sacked the end up was. We'll get to it. Let's go through the show. Let's stay focused here guys. Let's stay focused. And let's start off with our box score recap as we always. Do we start with the offense Let's serve benjamin todd b. t. r. a. Yeah todd rothlisberger vcr he. He threw the ball fifty one times guys fifty one times thirty six for fifty one two hundred sixty six yards. Five point two average a touchdown an interception. You gotta think if half of if he had eight drops half of them are caught. He throws over three hundred. Who knows if he has another touchdown as well but still finished than eighty one rating. I can't believe i'm going to say this. But i kind of believe i kind of agree with chris collins worth after the game he said. I don't think ben played that bad. No one helped him out. He's had drives. I wanted to throw it over to brian. I brian what gray d give ben rothlisberger in what believe it or not. I'm giving him a because exactly what you just said if what what did he say. Thirty one thirty six fifty one or he finished thirty six fifty one. Yes all right so you give eight you give them eight-pack or let us give him seven back. That's forty three fifty one. That's an amazing day. He was doing everything. I want to talk about those receivers a little bit. I'm going to save their grade but they let him down. Ben did not do anything. That intersection was was rushed an ugly. He was trying to make something happen. It wasn't pretty. it was on fourth down. So you know. It's a situation where he had to get it away. So i'm not really penalizing him for the interception as much. So that's why. I'm going to go ahead and give him an a all right. Let's go to dave. What do you think. I'm going to give him an a minus. The only reason i'm bringing him that little bit was he had of that interception where i don't i'd much rather him throw it up and maybe someone tried to catch it on fourth down. Then maybe throw it away other than you're like. Oh well nineteen yards feel difference but the throw the ball away on fourth down but he had derek early. I just don't think he has the chemistry with what to trust it. I just wish you would have trusted it to make the throw seeing how it ended up turning up turning out i mean if he doesn't hit wide and then someone else is open. They're like no one says anything about it. So maybe i'll too harsh on a but that's basically the only thing it was his receivers. It's accurate making bad. Throws a couple of times. His arms were it. And that's why the the throws weren't there. I mean what i mean. yeah. I got to give him that. That modest back on a gutsy called a throw it to the one nine just going to muscle away from everyone there because if you if you look for the replay from behind he had him but the way he loved it he allowed the defense to come and converge in on that and boy are we. I mean we're going to be talking about the defense making a stand at the end if it wasn't for grandpa strong that ball away. That's right big to give you an opportunity to exit the show if you want to leave. But if you're gonna stay you gotta stay. i'll stay. He'd been all right. I'm stay a unlike dave and going back to the giving the a minus because the interception was bad and actually look at the at a slow replay of that. Play my issue with ben as he didn't look to the to this trip side were they had to receive your stacked and what broke open. He didn't look there first because there he had two running backs and tight end he went his eyes went straight to the receiver side and by the time he came back everything was covered. And you know he did have some drops but there was one by lebron that everybody's talking about on that third and two at ball was behind him. A little bit iffy leads him. That balls out in front of him. It's an easy catch and go. But he he was plagued by his receivers dropping but I was real upset with that decision. Making right there On that interception the interception was bad. I'm going to go with a b. Plus because i was enduring twitter. I'm very active on twitter. During the games. I like to interact with fans. I respond to people. I try to be the anti beat. Reporter. 'cause d reporters always tweet during the games and people comment and they never respond and i used to be one of those fans would say things like ed bouchette or jerry. Do you never got a response. I always try to make sure. I respond if people ask questions and stuff and this guy was kept on saying benz. Good but he's just not as accurate as he needs to be now. There are some throws e diontae johnson. Third down drop in the fourth quarter. That were absolutely perfect. I'm talking put the ball in the basket. But then there's some others like big bro. Richard said with ebron fast should he have caught the ball. Because yeah there's a perfect run there's also a catchable ball should have caught it but it was all thought it was on the wrong shoulder and i think rothenberg would be the first to say that that's him it still gonna say For me i'm gonna give him a b plus. I then didn't play bad game but ultimately could all be a little bit better Let's go with the running game. Yikes benny snell kind. Saves the day with the fourth quarter especially the end of the fourth quarter sixteen carries sixty yards three point. Eight average anthony mcfarland. I liked this kid. I want to see him. Get more carries them more opportunities three carries for nine yards and ben had the kneel down for minus one yards but guys the only rushed for sixty eight yards on twenty carries a three point four average. That's going to drop their average significantly heading into week. Thirteen let's grade the running backs sit with the office of line. Not the offensive line. We'll get to the office of line. A second Let's go dave. We news daily. What is it the report on. Bud dupree in it is what For my garoppolo. We says initial tests on steelers linebacker. Bud depre- indicate a torn. acl sources. Tell both him and a can kabbalah test coming to confirm. The team expects into be lost for the season. Alright dave can you exit the show quickly and write that article audio needed. You know i can do that but you missed superjet. I can't i got it i got it all right Big rush nine. Nine hundred ninety nineties is the line start opening holes in the run game. Let's celebrate the win and look forward to this team. Finally hitting their stride before the playoff time to start using water fullback will. We're gonna talk about the running back here. let me get to I hope i didn't miss any. I try to save these on my screen snowman. Five dollars in my heart. Transplant is scheduled for tomorrow morning l. Eleven oh wow. Thank you very much snow for the deb we appreciated. I'm trying to see if i missed any other super chats. I did i apologize. It looks like i'm pretty clean all right so we lose one scofield and we gained another where. You're better looking scoop. We're going to battle through. Let's talk running backs brian. How do you grade the running backs. I'm going with a deep loss for the running backs the reason it wasn't worse because like you said earlier. Benny snell saved the day. They just weren't doing much. I like what you said about mcfarland. I think he has an opportunity to be good but playcalling goes a lot into this to it. It just doesn't seem like they headed going. Maybe pouncey being gone made it even worse. But we'll talk about the offensive line later all right. What about you. Big bro I'm going to go with a with a c. minus And the reason is going at high is because of benny snell. Saving it at the end. basically helped run the clock out which is something we don't do anymore But really we're not putting up. We're not putting up the yards the way we should now absolutely not. I'm gonna go with the c. For the running backs because it's tough. It's really difficult to grade the running backs as their own entity based on the fact that they are really relying on the people in front of them blocking murder and get to them in a second. I'm going to go to see let's Let's talk about the offensive line now. It's a good break before we get to the receivers. Let's talk about the line It should be noted that for the fourth straight game. Brian ben. Rothlisberger wasn't sacked again. Yes that's a shocker. he's only been sacked. I think the last time he was sacked was week. No it wasn't a week eight was it. It's he's only been ten times the baltimore's act in twice a week. He was sacked was against the baltimore. Ravens that's incredible dave chinese so you got that's that's unbelievable and also let's not forget the day. They didn't markey's penalty in this game today. Because right before kickoff or right before the inactive around noon ish one o'clock they find out he got put on the covid list. He wasn't able to play. So now you're throwing jc hassen our out there who has bounced around. The league played ni Whatever the af or whatever stupid letters it was but guys that's great the offensive line because they couldn't run the ball but they did pass protect. We know that that's their forte. Brian will start with you align line would he grade no. I'm going to go ahead and give the line of being plus excuse me a c. plus and the reason i'm doing that is because you know they got it done. They kept ben clean but that he was rushed. I i'd like to see What some of the hurries were. How many hurries the ravens. Racked up in that game as clean as he was capped it could have been better. The running game still abysmal. And and they're not helping. Losing pouncey hurts though. And i got it. Yeah baby brody thing yeah. I think i'm on board with brian. air With the c. Plus i was thinking about maybe a b minus We we let ben get hit one time early in that game when we messed up our blocking up front and that looked to be a little bit because has an hour. Although i am gonna give half an hour long credit. He came in and with bend. Sit back there and shotgun all game. The snaps were pretty clean Really just we've got to be able to get some push on the offensive line. I can't give them a great grade until they start pushing people when we try to run the ball offensive line. You're looking at two sides of the coin you're looking at they. didn't they. Didn't let ben. Ben rothlisberger did take some hits today. I wouldn't say a ton but he did say to take some heads. It is the national football league. Mind you he was not sacked yet. They can't run the ball at all. And that's an issue and that's that's a you know i think pouncey i would be. I would love to know from someone. That's actually you know in the no. It's in the locker room. How big of a loss is marquees pounds. Not having online. I'm sure calling coverages. I'm sure he's pointing out blitzer and things like that. It has an hour wasn't able to do that. I don't know i'm going to go. The c minus for the offensive line just their inability to run the ball and a lot of this comes down to feed her. And or ben until the last play outside of the downs short yardage. They're not even trying to run the ball in when they do. They're not even trying to have a full back out there. So just one of those head scratching things about this pittsburgh steelers team that will have yet to be solved nonetheless. Let's go to the wide receiving corps the wide receivers for the pittsburgh steelers now at least on. Espn they do not log dropped passes. I wish they would. Because i would love to know those numbers. Eric ebron added seven receptions. I think that's a season high for him. Fifty four yards chase. Claypool six Receptions fifty years ebron was targeted. Eleven times though guys chase claypool was targeted nine. Diontae johnson eight catches on thirteen targets for forty six. Juju smith schuster eight catches for thirty seven on nine targets. Heated score a touchdown in. Benny snell did have three catches for thirty three yards for eleven yard average guys. There were more receivers. Obviously james washington has the clutch catch their on third down on the fourth quarter. But what were your thoughts about the receiving corps in general. Okay in general. What grade brian. I've got to give them a d plus and you know i almost give him a c minus the reason. I'm going to go ahead and give them that. Great is still thirty. Six catches moving the chains. There were there. Were some big time catches by juju. There were some drops by juju by klay poll. One guy that i wanna. I want to single out though is You know. Dave mentioned earlier. Grandpa strong. I kind of love the combat catching of james washington. And what he can do and that was a big time. That could have been a game saving catch. Absolutely it's hard to believe. I mean this is a game easily should one. But you're right what about you. What do you think. I'm going to give him going. Give him a c. And the reason. I'm going to come a little bit. Actually i'm gonna put that on. Benny snell We a couple of times yet. Just then took those quick quick little out in the flat to benny snell. And i mean we're not doing that enough. That can really help. Free up our receivers down the field more because they gotta respect that back pop out. The drops killed us. If we get rid of a lot of those drops were probably looking at you. Know at the receivers with a b plus ak- kind of game but drops just and they were at such bad times. They were on third downs. They were third-down drops. And and that just kills droughts you bring up the way they utilize snell out of the backfield on a few occasions and it was a collins worth i think he was talking about. How mcfarland he said they wanna use him like they used to use leon bell as a guy that can also catch the ball. The backfield think back to two thousand fourteen. Two thousand fifteen. That was when lady on. That was his coming coming out seasons. I mean he was dominant. How many times brothels were getting in trouble just dumped the ball to him in in the flat. He'd rumble for fifteen twenty yards if they could add that to their repertoire. Be great connor can do that. I don't know why they never do that. But connor can do. They like to go empty empty. That's one of the reasons. I'm gonna give the wide receivers If it weren't for james washington's catch. I would give them an f But he caught the football so it's a d. minus so it's just it's to me. It's it's inexcusable. I am not going to try to sit here and make excuses for the fact that the these these passes are catchable. That's what i'm gonna say you can sit there and critique the and you can sit there and say that by all means the past is should be here there. The other i subscribe to the theory of hit your hands. You should call it hits. Your hands should have caught it. That's what my dad told me. Grown up when he coached my flag football team. And i heard it all the way through school. If it hits your inch got bit. This is not this. This is not going to be the answer. It is hoping for his. Let's just hope it's a blip on the radar. Let's just hope. This is a one game thing in next week because You know ben roethlisberger said this. After the after the game he was interviewed by michelle to foia and he kind of made funny. I think we have another game coming up right after this. It's a double header. She didn't get the joke. And it was really thick sarcasm but You could tell they were kind of ticked off. Not only with the way they played. He's there was tough. It was tough not knowing mentally when you think about okay. We're gonna play on thanksgiving night. No we're not now. We're playing on sunday. No we're not now we're gonna play on tuesday. No we're not. That's tough for the team. That is doesn't have an outbreak going through. Maybe that had something to do with it. I don't know it was just so weird. This game in general was weird. It was weird sitting down at three forty on a wednesday to watch the steelers play. That was weird. The way the game started was weird with all the turnovers watching robert griffin. The third on the field was weird period. So i don't know let's get to some super chats here arthur steal a dollar ninety nine thoughts on how highsmith fares buds absence Well that's tough to say because i actually think It'll be a mixture of him and identify who will try to replace debris. Brian who else know dave knows this answer. But who else do they have on the roster as a pass rusher. J. ron elliott still on the team. He he did not dress today but yes he's there. I don't think anyone else really deny that. Now i mean they're they're pretty thin. Okay so Dave's give me the hands now. That's that's it so they're thin. I someone said in the live chat who they're going to bring in. I don't who. Who could they bring in this point. I don't know we'll see we'll see. Let's go to isaac aguilera five dollars. This was the sorry win. Sorry to say this are rushing game. Sucks to be sorry to say it. That's fat isaac. I mean that's that's that's back. It's not good period. Not good at all so all. That's good okay. I'm so ex was four ninety nine. That's eight is that might be the last time was the alvin debris in the black and gold. I really hate baltimore yiming. Let's it's the reality of the situation. It's a reality of the fact that he's entering another contract year. Could they franchise tag again. Possibly but ultimately there's a good chance that he won't be back period and that's a shame because he's had a good end of his stint with the steelers. I felt like he's really changed a lot as a pass. Rusher the nonetheless. We'll talk about that when we get to defense guys. I wanna talk to you a little bit before. We take a quick break on the audio side. Not on youtube on the audience side about the offensive play calling and really situational stuff. The want to get your thoughts. We can sit here and rail on rain delay until we're blue in the face. That's that's old news. What else thoughts about you look at this game. So let's look at the first quarter there. It's a fourth and goal. Where ben throws the interception think about what they actually throughout the formation in big bro. Rich actually diagram this earlier in the show you had what in snell in a bunch formation on the left no wonder they never. He never looked there in the defense. Probably knew wasn't gonna look there that to me is silly. That's a silly play at that juncture. Maybe i don't know maybe they were gonna motion them back into the backfield. It actually have a lead blocker. i don't know the guys at sampling. What are your thoughts on. Play calling and the offense general. Brian will serve you. I don't love the play calling whatsoever. And i don't just blame randy. I blame ban as far as the play calling. It seems that the the running game anytime they go to the running game. It's like oh yeah we'd better go to the running game. I don't think they are using it as a weapon at all. They're it's it's an afterthought in this offense bed the reason you're going to see ben throw the ball over fifty times. Probably the rest of the season is because that's their running game now. What about you. Big relative offensive. Situational schematic schematics of it. We seem to get an area where i'm like. Okay i know about time. I start to think okay. We're yeah we seem to have it down next thing you know. It's like what are we. What are we thinking. There's no there is never any comfort there. Because as soon as i get comfortable you start to think. Oh my god what is randy land up to. That's a bad thought process. Now i'll say this. The steelers have an identity they do. And if you don't want to accept that that's fine. And i say you is in the listener if you don't want to accept the fact that they are a spread 'em out throw the ball in going to use those quick passes as an extension of the run game and they're only to run on a day really have to then. You're kind of in denial. That's who they are. The problem is is that my gosh they. The receivers dropped the ball to date literally and figuratively dropped the ball and if did receivers hold onto the ball as simplistic as that sounds. I don't think you have as many issues as you as we're talking about right now. I don't think the ravens probably score the markey's brown touchdown because they did all that stuff is just it would be extra fodder. This is a game that was head scratching from start to finish. I do wish that the steelers were using a little bit more disguise when it comes to some of their play calls in their formations and situational football. But you know what they're spread amount team and to be honest with you. I've watched a lot of the other top contenders in the afc. Mainly the kansas city. Chiefs watched the buffalo bills. This past weekend we played the steelers. Play the ravens twice. You'd have a really good secondary to defend the pittsburgh steelers because rothlisberger gets rid of the ball so fast that if you don't get home in not many teams are you have to have a really good secondary. You know what the funny thing is. I kind of was lambasted on twitter for saying this could us the ravens secondary was one of the few position groups. That didn't get the outbreak and didn't wasn't impacted by that brian in our pre show. I don't know one of the four that we did leading up to this. i'm humphry. They still had peter's they still have their safety of back there. That's a good secondary and it's a team that knows the steelers. Well not every team is gonna be able to do that. Let me make very clear. Brian go ahead his anything. When i say no you're absolutely correct on that and that is that marlon humphrey had a pretty good game. Get a really good game. These great player guys. He's a great play. Yes phenomenal phenomenal player. And he he is awesome. He's just a raven he's kind of He's kinda mouthy peters. He not as bad as peter's though. Yeah now peter's again to say and i hate that i'm saying this but i kind of smiled a little bit when i saw him limp off because i hate the guy. I don't wanna be that guy. You can smile. When benny snell trucked in the fourth quarter. Yeah i did. So what's going on. Why some the asking me. If i watched the game i mean i don't know if my analysis is often sorry but Really i thought i thought humphrey had a good game and you know the steelers. They really didn't go deep that often. They went deep. They got they got that passenger interference play right at the beginning of the third quarter and that really helped them. But i'm wondering about that as well you know. Maybe as they're good. But if you go deep you test these guys you can score on him no matter how good they are so i mean. That's that's a. That's some things i'm looking for you. Let's get some super chats here. Anthony johnson gives us five dollars. Love the show is always you guys ever consider an open q. A. with the chat. Go steelers Sometimes we do It depends honestly because when you have over six hundred people in the live chat and everyone's commenting it gets. It gets crazy trying to stick to a regimented. Show as much as we can so In the offseason. Do a lot of qna stuff where we'll spend an entire thirty minute segment on just answering questions We'll see play by tom. Era gives us eleven dollars. Thank you very much at eleven dollars dollar for each w new. You're doing that tom. He's been doing this last. Few weeks is was an ugly. W but there are no style points. In the national football league no practice gets the product we witnessed offense defense. 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Let's Ride: The Steelers have proven every doubter/hater right the past three weeks

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Let's Ride: The Steelers have proven every doubter/hater right the past three weeks

"Pittsburgh steelers fans. What's going on. This is jack hartman. Co editor behind a steel curtain dot com. Your host here for this monday wednesday friday. Let's ride podcast. that's right. It is wednesday morning and this is the first time that we've talked since monday. Night football this is the first we've talked and there's a part of me. That is really glad that. I didn't have the tuesday morning show. That was michael back in the live. Mike i hope you check out. His show is really well done when he was talking about. What is happening to the steelers. If i would have had that show. I think you probably would have thought to be very entertaining. It would have been wild and crazy rant. I would just been yelling and screaming the whole time. But i'm pretty much i'm a pretty level headed guy. At least i think so and one level headed. And sometimes when i get some time get some time to step back. Think about everything. Get my mind right then. I can approach it in a different way. Maybe a little bit more analytical. Maybe it's a little bit more optimistic for those. That are waiting to hear the pessimistic. Looked but you know what. I'm still kind of kind of. I'm still really upset about the way that the pittsburgh steelers not only played on monday night football but played the last four weeks and yeah. They're on a three game skid but let's not forget how poorly they played against the baltimore ravens at heinz field. We all remember that story in the show that took place leading up to that game. Where are they gonna play. Or they're not gonna play one. Are they gonna play. Maybe now no probably not but about now. I don't know we know that story and they didn't play well against the covid ravage ravens and then since then. They've lost every single game in throughout all of this in. This goes back before that ravens game before the ravens game. All that stuff you had these people these people that will just i will call them the haters or the doubters. Whatever you wanna call him. I don't care the steelers at this time are proving every single one of those haters doubters to be correct after three the last three weeks or four you want wanna go back in. This goes colin cowherd. I don't know if you'll listen to him. I don't anymore. I did when he was on. Espn i used to find him entertaining now. He's just very much. He's very click. Eighty he wants to say the hot topic stuff. He wasn't like that early in his career. He was he was a lot. More level will put it that way and it just drives me nuts i find this this hits me interpersonal spot now not way to me. This is personal because as someone that has a following someone that has a platform someone that has a microphone in front of his face in talks to steeler fans every monday wednesday friday morning. Just me and you the listener. I've been the one the last three weeks four weeks you could go beyond and say. Don't worry the steelers are still winning style points. Don't matter don't listen to the talking heads. I colin cowherd. Don't listen to those people like the guy that writes power rankings for nfl dot com. Who even when the steelers were undefeated refuse to have them as the top team even after they beat teams like the tennessee. Titans when they were five. No refused to have the top team even when the kansas city chiefs loss to the raiders. He always had the chiefs ahead and just basically saying. I just don't believe in this team in. I was the one that was yelling from the mountaintops these people don't know what they're talking about. They don't watch this team like we do. They don't see that it doesn't matter how you win as long as you win style points. Don't matter all this stuff. I could go on and on i was the one that was saying it and i honestly to goodness gracious down. Deep down in my heart. I believed every single syllable and now. I'm looking at this team and i'm mad. Why am i mad. Because they're making me look like a damn full that's fact they're making me look like an idiot. They're making every one of those haters. The guy that writes the power rankings. Colin coward there. In front of their microphones or in front of their laptops. Saying see told you so told you. This team was fake. Told you this team was nothing but pretenders and not a contender. I told you the data eleven and no record was nothing but a facade and they are just a loving life meanwhile here i am feeling like a court jester who just tricked might entire audience the entire season. I'm not taking. I'm not taking the blame for this. I just think that right now. The way the steelers are playing. They're making every single narrative every single person that came out and said the steelers are just not that good man. They're making them have their loving life right now. They're just like got told you so told you so and i've always hated people that say that torture so and i try not to do that myself. I try not to but you know. What as i sat here. And i'm thinking i thought about what i wanted to talk about. I wanted to talk about how everything that these people would said. The steelers are proving them right. They're proving them right everything. Let's talk about the defense. They're the people haven't talked poorly about the defense too much. I'll put it that way because the steelers defense is legit but they say others tuba knee injuries. Too many injuries in here. I was a all know. The standard is the standard. Next man up. they'll be fine. Maybe maybe they're just not fine. I think that was pretty much proven. When you're relying on marcus allen a safety by trade to have to drop down the box and play inside linebacker next to avery williamson. Who as of the midway point in the season wasn't even on your team. Think about that. Maybe these injuries are starting to catch up to this defense. In then people said the turnover rate that the steelers were having the. It's just not sustainable. They cannot sustain it. And i was the one that said. Nothing has shown us that. It's not it's not sustainable. Well guess what that wells kinda gone dry. The past few weeks in making that narrative seem like it's true. Now i do believe the turnovers come in bunches in right now. They're not getting any but at the same time. That's one of those things people say you know the defense. The steelers defense are kind of break. They've been getting those big plays. Those big plays aren't gonna come around all the time. And what did we all say. These journal optimists. I know there's plenty of you out there listening. They're like me. The steelers will be fine. They'll still find a way to make those big plays well hasn't happened recently. Then you go to the then you go to the offense holy cow the offense. Where do you start. Where do you start the narrative. The ben rothlisberger looks like he's done. He looks like he's done in here. I was saying ben. This is the new style offense to get it out of your hands quickly. You don't need this drive the ball down the field all the time. We don't need backyard ban like we used to see where he's running all over the place. Now you kind of understand why. They're doing what they're doing. Because ben can't be backyard bed anymore. He doesn't really have that arm strength. he doesn't have that he has the mobility but he just doesn't have the capability to do consistently in you know there's a lot of issues with ben rothlisberger. That maybe they were massed. Early on in the season but defenses have caught up in the steelers. Look like they can't adjust in ben rothlisberger in to adjust might be a big factor in that you people talk about that short passing game. Well it's an extension of the run. But that's t defenses are gonna defenses are going to just what we say we said well. They haven't adjusted yet. Well they did. They did they absolutely did i. I can't remember who it was on monday. Night football it was not a muppet. I'll tell you that it wasn't a freaking muppet was anyways that said these defense is the past. Four weeks are just coming downhill so hard on these short passes because they know what's coming they know what's coming. This is essentially two thousand and nineteen all over again. Except who's the quarterback. Oh it's ben rothlisberger it's not mason. Rudolph it's not devlin. Hodges that's what this is folks. That's what this is member is here. Everyone's mazing real check the ball down devon. Hodges all they do is check the ball down. Guess what's happening now. There's just really checking the ball down next. Everyone's this team cannot run the ball if they had to if their lives dependent on someone standing there pointing a gun. Atoms is either run. The ball successfully. Or you're done. They're done they're done. They can't run the ball. Benny snell showed some signs of life on monday night football but my gosh it this team this offensive line. I'm sorry. I've i've thought of so many excuses for well. You know they were. They were drafted to block for on bell. And he's a different beast. And now you're just dealing with these different running backs that's nonsense. Did this narrative that they cannot run. A barring some ridiculous crazy either. I change happening. They can't they cannot run the ball. They can't run the ball and a lot of people kept on saying over and over and over again. It's not sustainable. Is not sustainable. This is not sustainable. What's not sustainable. The short passing game. Yeah kind of proven. Right ben rothlisberger not turning the ball over. Yeah that's been proven the last three weeks as well. What's been the the one theme for the pittsburgh. Steelers offense the last three weeks. It is not protecting the football. Not protecting the football rothlisberger. Obviously a two interceptions. I'm sorry he had an interception fumble. Juju smith schuster at a fumble. They're not protecting the football and when you don't protect the football i don't care how good your defense is. You're not going to give them a chance to succeed. Even ryan finley given a short field and given enough opportunities will make enough plays to put points on the board. And that's exactly what's happening right now. The offense every narrative that's ever been written or talked about that is in a negative connotation has been proven right the last three weeks. And then there's mike tomlin. Mike tomlin he and ben rothlisberger talk about dropping off a cliff. I'm not joking. They went from ben rothlisberger potential. Mvp candidate and if not mvp candidate someone that's definitely going to garner at least a few votes something that's never happened in his career. Mike tomlin the front runner for coach of the year. Now think about it. There's no chance and you know wear that either of these two gentlemen would get a vote for either of those postseason awards. No way no chance. Not nope not gonna happen. Mike tomlin for the third straight year has watched his team completely collapsed. Fold like cheap lawn chair. In the month of december ben rothlisberger. he is just. He looks every bit of thirty eight years old. He looks every bit of guy. That's coming off of season ending. Elbow surgery just looks bad. Mike tomlin is under achiever. If you think back to the teams it's hard not to die. It's hard not to agree with that narrative. I'm a big mike tomlin fan. I am those that have listened to me for long enough. No i am not a tomlin heater. I've never been the guy that says. Hashtag fire tomlin on twitter. That's just not me but you know what we all said it. All seasons style points. Don't matter they don't matter. And you know what mike tomlin on tuesday even said it in his press conference that you know winning is all that matters in. And he's right he is right but you know what these ugly losses prove in these ugly losses. Do they give a glimpse a glimpse into what i call the fragility of the team. How fragile is this team this team. This twenty twenty steelers team is ridiculously fragile. And i'm not talking about injuries. You can pointers positions like guard positions like inside linebacker in. Yeah fragile is in. Injuries is important. I'm talking about the offense. Kellyanne not sustain a negative play. If they do you might as well just ordinary out there first down and let him pundit away if they don't succeed in having positive positive play on first down. They're going to be behind the chains and they're going to struggle. Think about that. Think about that. And then compared to any of the other elite offense in the nfl. Any of them. I don't care you could name. A bunch of elite offense is right. Now you can talk about new orleans. You could talk about green bay. You can talk about the kansas city chiefs. Obviously even the tennessee titans they have a negative play. Whether it's a false start whether it's a tackle for loss they're not they're not facing second and fourteen second fifteen or even i in fifteen and saying man this is. This is a a hill. We can't climb. That's exactly what i feel like with the steelers. This team is fragile. They are fragile can't they. Can't withstand the turnovers in nominee teams. Can i don't want that to be glaring. A negative statement about the steelers. But my goodness right now and this is another. This is the last narrative i'm gonna talk about from these haters in these doubters. That say right now. This is not a championship team. They already have a playoff spot. We know that all it takes is a win to win the division. But right now right now find me a fan. That says yes that they got it. They're going into their seventh lombardi. I and i'll find you. Someone that literally is drunk because right now they look awful. They look awful. And to all those haters colin cowherd the the morons right to power rankings and. I have to write that article on reason. I checked that stuff. But you should know that i am the journal optimist on the eternal optimist. I talk a lot about my dad and my brother on this podcast and we were texting a lot yesterday and the end of the game. They're my brother's. Like i don't even know what's going on with his team and i said point blank they stink. They stink right now. He said wow. Did you really say that my brother is in college. They called him the hair they hate or hartman because he was always the realist and he's always been that way and he's he was stunned because i'm the optimist. I'm the one that always tries to find the silver lining in the cloud. But let's call a spade a spade right now. This team stinks right now. Especially the offense. They stink to high heavens period period. Now i'm gonna finish this show to stay tuned with a little statistic that might give you some hope because i am a positive i am an optimist i am going to try to find the silver lining but nonetheless i look at this and i say whole man that that monday night game was bad in. It's proving all of these haters. It's proving them right. I can't stand it. It's personal now and they're getting angry there get me fired up so we have some winners and losers to talk about right after this break we come back over winners losers finish up on a positive geico. We'll be right back support for this podcast come from. Cdw and dell technologies at cdw g we get in migrating your agency to a hyper converged. Infrastructure is challenging. Got to do it. I wanna do got gotta do it. Slowdown friend cdw. Jeez experts can help. Simplify your transition. From legacy to hyper converged infrastructure with dell. Emc solutions that offer speed and agility. Have you done it. is it done yet. Why isn't it done yet to your station by. Cdw people who get it. Find out more at cdw dot com slash dell emc. All right pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to the second part of this. Let's ride wednesday morning. Podcast on jeff. Harbinger host co editor binder steel curtain dot com as. We always do my show after the game. Whether it's on monday or in this case on wednesday we go over winners and losers. This is an article that i write for behind. Steel curtain dot com. This obviously rain on tuesday. You can check it out if you'd like it's always pretty a popular article for for the most part had three winners and seven losers after this game if you thought that it was gonna be somehow trending in a different way. I don't know what you expected yet. Responded i always can find a couple players. That definitely stood out in a positive way. And i did so again on monday night. Started off with benny snell junior. Listen to this style. Line eighteen carries for eighty four yards a four point seven average. He did have a touchdown and yet he twenty nine yard. long run. steelers have not had that long run a long time but you know what on a night where there were hardly any bright spots. I mean harley. Any bright spots on offense whatsoever that benny snell did a good job when he got the opportunity. Now unfortunately the the score dictated the pace of the game and dictated what the steelers did it and they weren't able to really lean on him. I felt like if they got him. Twenty five carries easily would have gone over one hundred but obviously they weren't able to stick to the run so i thought that benny snell made the most of his opportunities. You may disagree a lot of people down the article. That's fine jerry baraga next winter. Diontae johnson eight receptions fifty nine yards seven point four average. He did have a touchdown. Twenty three yard long on thirteen targeted eight catches on thirteen targets. I was really anxious to see diontae. Johnson i wanted to see what kind of rebound he was going to have after my goodness. We've all talked about his drops. Now for the last three weeks i began. The tape doesn't lie. I thought that jan johnson did a great job. And i thought he'd got everything thrown his way. That most of us would call a catchable pass. There were some bad throws that he didn't bring in. And so. That's where the targets come up. I thought any past every penny. He was thrown his way to he could get his hands on. I thought he made the catch It just became blatantly obvious though diontae. Johnson is clicking boy. The steelers offense looks night and day. Different they look dynamic he every time he gets the ball in his hands. He's a threat to make a big play. And you saw that on monday night. You did see on monday night. But let's hope fingers crossed johnson's over his case of the drops that was just a mental lapse. And that he's he's over it because the steelers are need him down the stretch for short. Third and final winner is minka fitzpatrick. He had seven total tackles. Six solo tackles one tackle for loss yet when he came up and made that tackling ryan finley. It maybe wasn't as impressive as the two thousand nineteen play made on cuyler murray in arizona but still a one on one play in the open field. Not easy for you. He proved he can run the football. And make. if it's patrick made the play but not only that. I think it's patrick. Is playing some great defense. He seeing the field well. He's definitely adjusting with terrell edmonds. Those two are getting comfortable one next to one another back in the deep half. He is proving his value in his worth to this dealers defense every single week so for that. Make if it's patrick. He's a winner. Let's get to the fun stuff now. Right after a loss. You don't wanna hear about the good you want to hear about the bad. You want to voice your frustration. Well who's the top loser. You guessed it seven. Benjamin todd rothlisberger then finds himself on the loser list for the second week in a row. Listen to this stat line. Twenty or thirty. Eight hundred seventy yards of four point. Five average four point. Five yard average one touchdown one interception. He was sacked once for twelve yards with a sixty two point four rating. Where do even start with this performance. I mean it was as bad as you can imagine in then some rothlisberger. He's a straw which serves the steelers drink. We know this everyone knows this and when he's off while you saw exactly what happens now. A lot of people have asked me on social media. Do i think there's something wrong with ben rothlisberger arm. Structurally no i. Don't i don't think that he reinjured his arm. I don't think there was a situation where he has some type of collateral damage with his elbow. Do i think that his arm is fatigued. Yes yes i do think about it from a just use logic which is really tough for a lot of people to do and twenty twenty for some reason but still think about this logically ben rothlisberger in two thousand and nineteen. Maybe throws forty passes. He hurts himself. he doesn't come back in week. Two against seattle at home so yes. Surgery doesn't throw doesn't throw dozen throats until february twenty first. I believe why. Do i know that because my birthday is the twentieth and i remember the day after my birthday i saw the video of in throwing a football so think about the time line. So he's just now starting at that point he's just able to start throwing. I mean yeah. He threw a football. But he's gotta get his arm right. He's gotta get his elbow rehab still now all of a sudden he's back into a season. It's it's a long season in at the end of the season. In the second half the steelers are throwing the ball at a ridiculous clip sometimes fifty or more times. I think his arm is just not. It's not in shape for this it. Maybe i don't know if it ever will be shared for that's the big concern but you cannot train your body. You mean you could sit there and throw every single day every single day and when you're coming off a surgical surgically repaired elbow and you only played in one and a half games in two thousand and nineteen. You have expect some fatigue to be there so people yell and scream from the mountaintops bench seeing on wednesdays. I get it but at the same time. It keeps his arm a little bit fresh. You want him to be a little little bit fresh. But i'll tell you what if there's ever a time they need to go all in on trying to run the ball and have some type of balance hits now. Trust me the next loser. Juju smith schuster. This isn't about receptions. Okay his stat line. Is you have to understand the perception and what i'm talking about is something i didn't even wanna talk about. And that him is stupid. Tiktok dances on the logo. Before a game. I know he's been doing it for a while. But you know what. The buffalo bills called him out. They called him out on it and they brought attention to it. And then you know what. Juju smith schuster did. He doubled down on his celebration. He doubled down on his brand being important. That's fine that's fine. I have no problem with it. Had no problem with then have no problem with it now but he has to understand the perception of what he's doing to the opposition. If it's giving them any type of you know throwing gasoline on a fire then you need to not do it. You need to stop. It was pretty clear that whenever judy touch the ball cincinnati boy. Today's he dead red and they were going head hunting. They were sending a message. So mike tomlin said on tuesday and his press conference that he is going to talk with juju. It's about respect. Yada yada yada jus got to be smart enough that when he meets with the media and he will this week if he if he doesn't if he doesn't the pittsburgh steelers organization is a clown show. You got to put him out there. 'cause he's gonna have the balls to go out there and say yeah. I'm gonna do this. Because i'm a fun loving guy on all this stuff. Then you know what when he does that and again then gets hit. Almost head knocked off and he fumbles the football. You got to put out to face the music so juju. You're a fun loving guy still love you to death but you know what sometimes you gotta no one to knock it off and that time is right now next loser. Alejandro villanueva. I his stat. Line is carl lawson stat. Line carl lawson to tackles two solo. One sack two tackles for loss as quarterback hits. He hit ben rothlisberger six times. Look there's a strong contingent of the steelers fan based already didn't want villanueva year anyways. They think he's having a bad season. They think he's kind of washed up. They think he's cost too much money. Get him out of there. But the sack numbers you know. The steelers didn't give up a lot of sack so kind of speaks for itself but on a national stage. Boyd carl lawson make wave a look like a turnstile. He has always had his ups and downs. And when you're left tackle if you're being noticed it's typically for the wrong reasons so it wasn't a good outing for big allah. Toby downs back but he was not good on monday night. Next loser the third down offense. They went four for sixteen on third down. There was a time in the first half was the steelers. I wanna say. It was embassy entire first quarter. They didn't convert on any third downs and also didn't even get a first down. It literally was three plays jordan berry three plays jordan berry three plays jordan berry. Goodness at sounds like a really bad. Nineteen eighty s pop song but still is bad i. It's as bad as it has been this roller coaster of an offense the twenty twenty regular season but in the first half man. They struggled on first down. I talked about that earlier. In the show may struggle on first downs. They struggle period period. I was tough to watch. It was tough to watch. And when you have a team that is honest to goodness there like a short passing team. That's how they've tried to use the extension of the run. Nothing made this more obvious than the play. The juju got hit and fumbled. It was the third and seven. I believe juju. Smith schuster is running a shallow crossing route. Right on the line of scrimmage and ben rothlisberger throws the ball and three cincinnati. Bengals are ready to bear down on him. That play was dead on arrival. Why he threw it. I don't know but that's just a pit. Him is the steelers offense period next loser. The turnovers three turnovers and zero takeaways. I mentioned this in the first segment coming into week. Fifteen the seals were number one in the nfl in turnover differential. They were plus eleven. Now they're plus eight. That's a pretty. That's a pretty far fall from grace. And the fact that the steelers couldn't take the ball away from ryan. Finley is is almost as shocking is giving up giving up the ball three times in the first half this is a key metric for the steelers like i said there are a fragile team. They can't give it away three times and not take it away. That's a problem. So that's a loser. Red zone offense. They were one for two in the right area. That's bad to me. It's not about the success ratio this week. It's about the fact that they couldn't even get into the red zone more than two times against the to ten and one at the time now there are three ten and one cincinnati bengals. This offense has been infuriating. And this is just one of the ways that i i was livid. I was living doing that. Post game show last monday. Night was difficult. Put it that way. It was difficult. It was very difficult. And then lastly the rush defense forty one carries for one hundred and fifty two yards. That's a stat line for the cincinnati. Bengals the steelers. Defense keith butler. They had to know the bengals. Were gonna want to establish the run. Take some pressure off ryan finley. Everyone knew they were going to do that. And they were able to do it so when the entire viewing audience the bengals were going to run. They were still able to get the job done. Think about that. You throw in the fact that ryan finley. No not cam newton. Not lamar jackson was able to abuse. That defense with these run. Pass options are peos. That was embarrassing. Alex highsmith when he's watching the film in front of with the team. I don't care if it's virtual or not. He's probably gonna get rained. Forgetting abused by ryan finley on more than one occasion. You expect the steelers defense and this is maybe maybe i have them several on a pedestal. But you expect the steelers defense to make a team. One dimensional take away with trying to force the ball in ryan finley's hands couldn't do it. They could not do it. When ryan finley gets the bengals a win by throwing the ball thirteen times. You can talk about turnovers. All you want. They weren't able to do it period. That's that's just as bad. In my opinion those are my winners and losers from this past week was not pretty was not pretty at all. And it's tough for me to say this. It's tough for me to finish on a positive because there's not many positives to come out of the pittsburgh steelers to be honest with you i. It's just it's just not it's just not good but at the same time. If you're someone that is thinking to yourself when the heck's jeff gonna talk about how you gonna finish this on a positive well think about this the last team to start eleven. Oh and then lose their next three games that was this according to espn stats and info. By the way it was the two thousand nine new orleans saints. They started eleven. Oh eleven now. Lost their next three in what it end up doing. He ended up winning the super bowl that year. Now do i think. I said it earlier right now. Are they a championship team. The answer that is no no. They're no. They're not a championship team but could they still win a championship. I at this point in time. I don't know what to expect from a week in week out basis to be honest with you but at the same time that they could. Yeah they could if they beat the colts on sunday. Let's just let's just roll out. This scenario is it likely probably not. But let's just roll the scenario out if the steelers were to host. The indianapolis colts the ten win. Indianapolis colts in the colts. Come in town. They're vying for the afc south. The steelers just need one win. And let's just say for the sake of this show for the sake of the argument that the steelers blow their doors off that they made philip rivers wish he retired the past russia's all over him there stymying the running game. The offense is starting to figure out. Some semblance of balance dan rathers burgers much more much more accurate the football proving that last week week fifteen was more of an aberration than it was what the new norm is. What if that happens the change your perception of the team does that make you think all of a sudden well wait a second navy. This team's back to me. It would it absolutely. Would it absolutely would because they were to do that if they were to beat the colts. And i don't even care if they don't blow the doors off. They just beat the colts on sunday in the and then all of a sudden they walk up the afc north to the they win on sunday. Walk up north. Guess what happens barring the buffalo bills completely falling flat on their face. The steelers are the three seat and that's pretty much locked in because they have the head to head win over both the colts and the titans. So they would. They would have that three c locked in. They can rest everyone on week. Seventeen if they want that week. Seventeen game means absolutely nothing. It means everything for cleveland. It means absolutely nothing for pittsburgh that changes everything that changes everything so for me. You look at that stat about the saints in two thousand nine and that gives you a little bit of hope you think about the steelers can win and i know. That's a big. If right now that if they win on sunday whole new ballgame. Put it that way. We'll talk about that game coming up on friday you'll get my picks you'll get my thoughts on that game. That's going to be an interesting game for lotteries and we'll break it down for you on friday. Look if you haven't checked out behind this curtain dot com yet do it. I know that you are probably thinking. Why would i want to read about it. I'll give you an example. Jeffrey benedict put out a phenomenal film. Room on how you did. Who was on monday night. It was none other the number seven dan roethlisberger and he breaks it down like none. No one else can tremendous work. We have a really good article going up wednesday today from katie smith. It's cliff harris is still a punk about the autopsy on the dead steelers offense. I'm telling you this stuff is great. Make sure you check it out. And i'm gonna have a really special heart to heart on friday as well Honoring one mr kevin green I didn't wanna do it today. I wanted to wait till friday. I thought that was a really hard to hard segment to talk about him. What he means to me what he meant to my childhood yes. There's a lot there to uncover. I did not forget. So if you're thinking while i'm surprised. Jefferson mentioned that. I will on friday. So make sure wherever you get your podcast search steelers or behind the curtain and follow us. Subscribes that you don't miss a thing folks. Thanks for listening. Thanks for spending some your wednesday with me. I hope that you have a great christmas eve. If you celebrate the holiday. I'll be back on friday morning friday morning. I'm gonna be back talking about the steelers on that's gonna be a good show. I'm getting excited for that already. Hey if the steelers being bad is the worst thing that happens in your life your life boom. You're you have a pretty good life thing about. Hey folks be safe becoming. God bless go steeler. we'll see friday our garbage burner morning.

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Let's Ride: Why the Steelers draft class is for now, not later

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Let's Ride: Why the Steelers draft class is for now, not later

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We're still trying to figure out what the steelers have with this draft class in twenty twenty. One i'm going to talk about big alejandro villanueva comments and i've got a little bone to pick with some people on social media not individuals. I'm not gonna call anybody out like that. But i do have some issues. It's kind of like the airing of grievances on seinfeld. I've got a lot of issues with you people and you're going to hear about it. Yeah some of you are going to hear about it at the very end of my heart to heart save. But let's start out like i always do. I just want to send a reminder to everyone out there if you're a steelers fan and you love content and that's written that's audio doesn't matter what the form it is. My gosh behind this to occurred dot com should be your one stop shop for all things steelers on top of that. Make sure that wherever. You're going for your podcasts. 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But let's talk about this draft class. The headline the title of this show is why the steelers draft class is for now not later and this might sound a little bit off. The wall. People might be listening to saying jeff. I don't know if you got that right. Did you read that correctly. Why the steelers draft class is for now not later. Maybe that's a little deceiving when you hear my overall thoughts on this so hear me out before you go ahead and judge so when you look at the nfl draft used to have a slogan net. Is that the future is now. We have these images that we use for certain articles behind the steel curtain dot com. Where it's from the drafts of past and it says the future is now boy. Is that correct. The future is now because when people need understand about the nfl draft. Yes you are drafting for the future but if you think for a second that you're drafting for anything more than that specific year you are crazy a you literally. Don't pay attention and it might just be because you kind of fall into these lulls fans follow these laws. Where they're thinking about okay. I'm thinking about three years down the road. I'm not sure why you are. Nfl teams. Don't they're worried about right now. They're worried about this season when they pick mainly in the first three rounds they're expecting players they can help them right now. Not three years down the road right. Now if they draft a player that's quality. He's going to help them out for the next four plus years but the draft slogan the future is now is very poignant. I think that when you plan for you still do plan for the future. I don't want people to think that. I'm getting my messages crossed. You you do plan for the future. But unless you're someone like the jacksonville. Jaguars in their incomplete rebuild mode. I mean completely rebuilding tear down. Build it back up then unless you're a team like that you're drafting for now. Don't worry about the future it'll take care of itself. You're drafting for right now. So what i did is. I went back and i looked at the last four draught classes. That includes this twenty twenty one draft. And i just broke it down looking at players. I think you would consider their now picks and then there's future picks and what that means is that there's players that they're expected to be able to contribute now and then there's players that are looking at okay. You're just supposed to contribute in the future and again you might look at some of these picks in the future and say well wait a second. There's on the team that's fine. That's great they're doing their job. They also you might look and say well. Why would they make this pick. It might be filled the spot of someone that didn't pan out that that was drafted before them. So let's do this the right way. Let's start in two thousand eighteen k two thousand eighteen in the first round the steelers take terrell edmonds. Then they go with james washington. Mason rudolph chook sikora for marcus allen jalen samuels and joshua frazier defensive. Tackle out of alabama. No longer team. Everyone else is still a member of the steelers. When you look at that draft class you can see that. The top two picks edmonds in washington. Were now picks. They were picks that were supposed to be able to help out right now. Edmonds was a again. I'm not saying that when they drafted trump is expected him to start right away. They didn't expect him to start. Right away morgan. Burnett could stay healthy and he was forced to start in. It didn't didn't hurt him. It didn't hurt him at all. he's still a member of team. James washington. I don't know if anyone expected in the come in in just be a superstar but they expected to contribute and he did in his i. It wasn't a big contribution because that was the year the end antonio brown was still around but still james washington did contribute some as a rookie. Everyone else though future picks it. They're looking at okay. Can we get these players to contribute at some point down the road and when you look at it they have mason. Rudolph has played szucs a core for the starting tackle right now. Marcus allen saw significant playing time last season when devon bush was heard jalen samuels has had his moments. Those are good pigs because they are future picks that have panned out. So let's go to the two thousand and nineteen. Nfl draft in two thousand and nineteen. This is when they traded up for devon bush in the third round. They take diontae johnson. Justin lane they get benny snell. Zach gentry sutton. Smith isaiah bugs yuji. Three let's go third endure when gray. That was a huge does a lot of draft picks in that draft and they even traded some away so again look at these devin bush. You trade up to to pick number ten yes. He's a now pick. You're expecting to come in and play right away. He did deontay johnson. I would even say that. He was a now pick. They expected him to come in and contribute in some way and he did whether it's special teams or as a wide receiver. Everyone else in that class would be considered a future. Pick someone that they're like. Okay kinda project. It's going to take some time. We're going to go away and we're going to figure out if we can get them a spot. Justin lane still looking for his shot might be getting this year. Benny snell never really panned out. He's still on the team. He doesn't seem like he's any more than a backup. Zach gentry got hurt last year. He missed all of them all the season with a knee injury. Who knows if he's even going to make the team this year after they take pat farm in the first in the second round of twenty twenty one sudden smith. Everyone had huge hopes for sutton. Smith doesn't even make the team gets cut. Isaiah bugs he might be on the bubble now after the steelers trade into the fifth round and take isaiah louder milk. We'll talk about him in a second but he was as a player that is still contributed in some way shape or form since he's been drafted yuji. Three can't stay healthy. He has all the potential and promise in the robot. He can't stay healthy and derwin gray. Who was a cast off. Pick no one thought he would do anything. Spent some time on the practice squad played. They had to cut him due to moving some pieces on the roster he up getting picked up. He's actually on an nfl roster. I think the last. I heard he was in cincinnati. Maybe i could be wrong but derwin gray is still in the nfl. And so you had devon bush. Diontae johnson were now picks. And everyone else future picks. So let's go to last season. Twenty twenty that was only a really small draft class only six players. When you look at you chase claypool. Alex highsmith kevin dotson. Anthony mcfarland antoine brooks in carlos davis claypool and highest smith and dotson. I don't think that when the pig was. Let me rephrase that claypool highsmith were now picks when the pigs were made. I don't think anyone thought kevin dotson was going to do what he did. I didn't i absolutely. Didn't i saw him a. He's a future pick. That could maybe fill in for. Ramon foster could maybe fill in for a. We knew the going to flex to guard before last season. But maybe to castro's future replacement he was a future guy claiborne. Highsmith were expected to contribute whether a special teams. I think we all thought claypool had a spot on the offense and he proved that he was worthy of that spot. Then you've mcfarland brooks davis. They all made the team. They're all still on the team. They were future. Picks looking back at it now. You kid kevin johnson and you say well he's actually pick. Because i think that there are some i'm not saying i'm one of these people that thought that he was maybe the best offensive lineman they had. It was a small sample size. The steelers really didn't trust him out there and big moments but still he was consistent. He was a very consistent player. In hindsight he definitely could be considered a now. Tick not a future bit but when the pick happened. I think it was a future pick. So let's look at this year's draft class the class is still so fresh in remind nine players selected and let's see who could be considered now picks and then picks ever more for the future picks that we are expecting them to come in and play significant snaps in some way shape or form for the steelers this season. That's the definition of a now pack compared to those that were looking at maybe inactive on game day. Maybe they don't make the team. Maybe they are someone that you're looking at and saying this guy maybe can contribute somewhere down the road. So let's start. Nause harris pat fryer kendrick. Green those your top. Three picks dan more buddy johnson. Isaiah louder milk quincy rochet trae norwood and pressley harvard. So let's talk about now. Picks who out of the nine would fall into the now category. We'll nashi here is number one. Yes he's a now pick. I'm not saying that he's going to be well. I think he will be. I'm not going to predict it. But i think he will be the three down bell belco back for the steelers but if they designed to spell him with benny snell only in the season sprinklings anthony mcfarland maybe sees jalen samuels as an h back with matt canada. Because he's familiar with that scheme. I wouldn't i wouldn't be shocked but i think that nauseous is going to very large role in this team. In this offense and twenty twenty one. Pratt pat fryer. M- youth frothy meath from penn state. Second round pick. He's a now pick as well clearly. They weren't happy with eric ebron. Advance mcdonagh retires. So zach entry. Nope he's not the answer Kevin reiter no probably not and they didn't go out and get a free agent tight end. Someone like jesse. James will still out there tyler. I for those being tossed around that. They were rumored to the steelers or anything like that but there was a gaping hole a tight end so they take meet in the second round. He feels that whole. That also means that he's going to be a now pick in a big way barring injury barring him not being able to block the nfl level knob being able to understand concepts at the nfl level but he played at penn state. That's a big time kalija program. I have no doubt that he's going to be able to come in and contribute as a rookie he's in albuque- he is a now pick now gets a little dicey kendrick green. Is he a center. Is he a guard. He did not play center that much in college. I didn't realize this until our own Cliff is still a punk. Or kevin smith have ever gov. He's one of our film. Guys are behind the steel curtain dot com. He did the breakdown on green. And i read it. And i'm looking at the film that he put in there and he's he all the video showed a only very few. I think he only played center in four games so thanks. Yeah he's center. That's going to be the center. Do we really know that or is he. Maybe a backup center in can flex to guard and they want to address center. Maybe next year he gives them options but he announced pickers future brick. I think he's a now pick. I think he's a now pick because they might need him more ways than one. We'll put it that way. David decastro struggles or if he gets hurt. Maybe he's the guard maybe he's the first guy in. I don't think it's joe hague. He's more of a tackle guy. I know they said he can flex the guard. I'm not try by that has our. Bj finney well. You'd have to make a decision if someone gets hurt. A guard are you to move. Bj finney to guard input kendrick. Green at center is kendra. Green gonna win the center job outright. These are questions. Kendrick green now gives them some versatility. I'm not sold on jaycee dugard center make that very clear. I've made that clear before he added you bang attention just not a big jc our fan. So i think the kendra greens and now pick. He was picked to help out this season. Twenty twenty one. Is there anyone else. Because now we get into day three picks there anyone in day three that i view as a now pick. There's only one there's only one and that's presley harvard. My my boy. Big press. Because i think that he can not only beat out jordan very he can be the punter for the long term and he can do that now. Specialist kickers longs of only the steelers draft a long snapper in the six round. And that's my boy call and jojoba but still presley. Harvard should be able to beat out jordan berry. And if he does he'll be the punter he'll be the punter you only keep one so yes absolutely. He's a now pick if they give big f because we know jordan varies a weasel. And when he when you have a weasel he'll find his way back he did it. Last week last year with colquitt he could do it again with harbin but if i e r presley harbin burs if presley harbin beats out jordan varied. And there's no doubt in my mind that he will be announced picks that leaves dan more offensive. Tackle buddy johnson. Great article ran yesterday on behind his current dot com film. Breakdown of buddy johnson. I highly recommended to anyone. That loves that type of subs to see what you got with. Buddy johnson you need to check out that article that was written by kevin smith. He really breaks down how he could be the future inside linebacker next to devin bush. And it'd be those two and they're very athletic. That's a good thing. Isaiah louder milk. I don't think anyone in their right mind believes that he's a now pick Quincy rochet could contribute on special teams. But if you go back and look at all these other players. Whether it's benny snell whether it's jalen samuels marcus allen whether it's your antwon brooks it's not that these players didn't contribute as rookies. It said they weren't expected to be significant players on the on the roster. I hope that makes sense. I do think once he might see some time at outside linebacker. I do think that he's gonna play special teams. But i don't think they're going to count on him. Barring injury i agree the same with trae norwood future pick. He's versatile he is what mike tomlin called a swiss army knife in the secondary. He can play safety. He can play cornerback and so they're gonna utilize him in some way shape or form. No doubt about it. So you look at traynor would and that makes more johnson. Louder milkshake norwood. All future picks for the steelers they will contribute in some way shape or form but their future picks and this is kind of. Let's bring it all the way back around. I hope that everyone understands that when you look at the nfl draft a lot of people say well. This player could be good in a few years. The history shows that not necessarily always feasible. So look at two thousand and nineteen draft. Benny snell hey. This guy could be good in a few years. What they do in two thousand twenty one they just running back. They just took a running back and now. You're looking at benny snell playing out his rookie contract and he'll be going elsewhere. I really really doubt that. He'll stay in pittsburgh And then you look at other positions where you have players that were drafted in then a year later. They took another player the same position. Look at isaiah bugs. Isaiah bugs was a ads trying to find it here. I lost it. He was he was in the later rounds. I think he was a sixth round draft. Pick out of alabama and. You're like okay bugs. He had a lot of sacks for the crimson tide could he possibly be a guy that develops in the future and he's a big time player. You think that at the time and then what do they do. They trade into the fifth round of the twenty twenty one. nfl draft. They give up a twenty twenty two fourth round. Pick to get isaiah louder milk outta wisconsin's please tell me how that actually works. Bugs or mondo or carlos davis who was a seventh round. Pick and twenty twenty. They could be off the roster this year because of that so we love to say with the future pick. This could be good in a few years until they draft. Someone that they think is better. That's just the way the nfl draft is now. You don't have the luxury of waiting around six or seven years till you just can't do that. They've got to be. Nfl ready they've got to be nfl ready. And that's one of the reasons. Why the steelers do focus on mainly the power five schools because they are the most. Nfl ready players coming into the draft. You look at last this number one graphic nashi harris. If you watched the road to the pros documentaries he talked about how he had with teams and they were asking him questions about protections and things like that and he kept on telling these coaches guys. I went to alabama. I know all this stuff. I might call it a different thing. For instance you might call a left. Blogging for instance as a pass blocker as running back. If he has to slide to the left. You might call it lucy. He might have called it lefty. It's the same thing. It's just different terminology because alabama's like the nfl team just collegiate level may run the same principles. Same type of offense in. That's why those players are coveted in the nfl. So don't fool yourself the. Nfl draft is not for the future. The future is now meaning. Who can help me right now. Especially for a team like the steelers. The steelers aren't messing around. They wanna win right now and they wanna find players that can help them win right now and that's the case every single year. I hope that made sense in the second half. It's going to get a little feisty going to warn you it's going to get a little feisty we've got some talk about some big al comments and we're gonna talk about some of these we'll be right back support for this episode comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room as a sports fans dream come true. It's a live audio platform that lets you connect with other fans experts. And even the athletes themselves locker room makes it easy to start your own conversations. Talk about the latest rumors takes news and teams you care about most join massive watch parties for all of your friends to react together in real time as you celebrate buzzer beater or suffer the agony of a crucial bricks. 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I don't care if you're a blogger that gets paid. I don't care if you run a website. Like i do or if you are a credited writer from some newspaper i don't care it's a long weekend so this is a restaurant. Recover weekend for me but the news on wednesday was interesting. We'll put it that way. Big our one hundred villain wave. I was asked about this in my tuesday mailbag segment and that was. What do you think about villanueva. Going to the ravens. Is it something we should be concerned with. Is this something that is you know we're looking at is does the steelers have an advantage knowing alejandro villanueva and i answered the question and i was honest about it but then he has his first press conference with the ravens and the media. They're you know they're going to ask him a lot about the steelers you know. They're going to ask him about the military because the baltimore media contingent hasn't had the chance to really ask him these questions. Now there are some that. Cover like for instance. Espn writers nfl network people. They've covered him at all wherever he's been because they might cover the entire. Afc north but there were so comments that were made by villanueva. That i was kind of. Wow i can't believe that you know. I can't believe he said that but at the same time. Let me explain i. He was asked about why he came to baltimore. Why did he choose baltimore. Well the first thing he says that the steelers made it very clear once the season was over that they did not have an interest in bringing him back. I found that interesting. I feel like that was the situation. Maybe where they said. Hey we can't offer you as much as some of these other teams are so you have the green light to go look and maybe we can bring you back. But it's not gonna be for what you're expecting the starting left tackle and we're not probably going to promise you that you would start either it so he's probably looking at the writing on the wall saying i don't wanna come back to this situation. I wanna play. I've been started here. Ever since i got that job as a starter i i wanna play in. So the steelers were never an option. But why did he go to the ravens. Here's what he said. Quote the fact that i knew the ravens is a team that plays hard a team that plays afc north type football. And i get a chance to play the steelers as well with something that motivated me coming here for shore. Oh oh okay all right. I my ears perked up a little bit. My ears perked up a little bit. He little shots fired there at the steelers meaning. He knew he was going to get a shot at the team that maybe he felt that they kind of turned their back on him. Maybe he felt today. He was still playing at a high level and they didn't value him. Let's forget about the fact that the salary cap dipped and you really couldn't pay a left tackle starting left tackle money but that's neither here nor there. Then all of a sudden yeah. He was asked about his time in the service why he left the military But then more red flags went up when villanueva's asked about run blocking because he didn't do a ton of that in pittsburgh let's be honest. He was more of a pass blocker in. He's still good at pass blocking. Here's what he says. I'm assuming it's not as much fun. Running the ball for the receivers because they're not getting all the catches they're making the tiktok in there having fun on their social media and shots fired. Everybody shots are fired. Right across the dow. If you're the steelers if you're someone like juju smith schuster chase claypool eric. Ebron you're saying he says what he said what. Oh my gosh now zach. Banner kinda tried to calm down the fan base a little bit and said al is living in your heads rent-free right now l. o. L. e. o. g. Already i wish him. Well congrats on a great career in the steel city. That's great jack. Thanks thanks we can think for ourselves. We can think for ourselves and then he got jerry of the pittsburgh post gazette anne. Here's a war veteran. Who is of decorated war veteran. Who goes to a new team and says these things and people just turned their back on. It speaks volumes about the fan base. Well you know what jerry you know what jerry. I got a couple of comments for you. And i've got a couple comments for our one hundred villanueva allah hundred villanueva. I still don't hate you man because you're with a new team. You gotta say what you're supposed to say. Did i think you were going to say that. No did i think he would just tell the company line say. Hey i'm not gonna talk about pittsburgh i'm just gonna focus on my time in baltimore. I'm gonna try to make the ravens the best team that they can be did. I think that's what you're gonna say. Yes you chose not to go that route. Guess what you also did. You gave the steelers some bulletin board material so when the steelers play the ravens. Guess what's going to be in your face. A bunch of microphones. You're going to answer some questions. And you're going to have a motivated steelers team to go out there and shut you up. T. j. watt will be ready to shut you up period. That that's is how it's gonna work out that's how it's gonna work out. But then jerry dulack his comment on twitter. I mean i want to read it verbatim. I wanna give jerry the benefit of that here okay. So here's a dulack. Says he says all of a sudden who served three tours of duty in afghanistan and stands up for his is a villain in bad guy because fans think he took a few folks at their beloved football team. That's all you need to know about some fans. Well jerry gerbera. Let me explain this to you. And i said this on twitter you can follow me on twitter at j. h. Ertms underscore pat. I said let me make something very clear. I've said this before. I'll say it again. I'll probably upstate a million other times in that is i root for the pittsburgh steelers. I do not root for individual players. Do i hope those players succeed. Yes why because they're steelers because they are pittsburgh steelers if they leave or when they leave they are no longer steelers. Therefore i do not care i guarantee you. Mike tomlin if he was as it. What do you think about big al hundred illinois waves comments. I don't care. He's on a member of my team anymore. I appreciate the work that he is here but he's not here anymore. So i'm not saying he's dead to me but in 'cause i still do appreciate what he did for the country. I appreciate the worst stadium for the steelers he was very good very serviceable left. Tackle not take anything away from him. But i'm not going to sit here as a steeler fan and say oh okay well whatever. It really doesn't matter because big our hundred villanueva can say whatever he wants. He can see what everyone's i root for the steelers. I don't root for individual players. Do i have players that. I enjoy watching absolutely everyone. That's listening to me. There's a big ben roethlisberger fan. I've always liked rothlisberger since he was drafted in two thousand and four but at the same time if rothlisburger were to leave. I don't know let's say he goes to the houston. Texans i literally just put a name out of a hat in my head. He goes to the houston texans next year and finished his career. Houston am i going to root for the texans. No no. i'm not. If ben talk. Bad about kevin colbert and mike tomlin. Am i gonna care. No am i going to have to write the story. Yes but am i gonna care. No i'm not gonna care. I really don't care big. Al can say whatever he wants like. I said earlier he has to. He's in news city really since he came into the nfl. He was with philly for a cup of coffee as defensive lineman and then pittsburgh picks them up and turns into a left tackle. He's been in pittsburgh ever since and so. He's in a new city with new expectations. He's going to say things that maybe rub his former team the wrong way. I don't blame him. I don't blame him for because he's got to try to find his niche with this new team and he's gonna talk about running the ball more he might take some jabs whatever. Whatever i'm a fan of the steelers not individual players. If the. I don't know how to make that more clear. I really don't so that's all i want to say about that. That's all i want to say. I wanted to get that off my chest. I'm a steelers fan. I don't root for individual players. I root for players succeed because they help the steelers. Make sure we know that all right. Let's have a little heart heart. Finish out the show so didn't article. When i talked about this extensively on my podcast on wednesday i comparing najah harris the lady on bell. I said in the article i said it in the podcast and some people in this is one thing that i cannot stand about social media. If you're going to comment on something whether it's a tweet whether it's an article whether it's a podcast whether it's video. I don't care what it is. Please for the love of all things holy read. Watch or listen before you comment. I know for a fact there were people that commented on my article. Comparing nausea harris lady on bell didn't read a word all they did was read the headline and this is not new. This is not new. This is the age of social media. I get it but they read the headline and said oh. My gosh nauseous is just the next nauseam. You need me. He'd go compare them to bell. I have i have a saying about. I've come in about that does that but we're just letting himself shut up already. Read the article. Listen to the podcast. I sit in the podcast. I'm not comparing him to the person a not comparing him to anything. He did off the field. Whether was the marijuana is situation. The holdouts everything. I'm not comparing him to edit all. I'm comparing him as a player. That's it in the article. I said at the very top of the article. I'm not comparing him to the person off the field. I'm not saying he's gonna go and have a horrible crappy rapping career. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that as a player. That's what i'm comparing him to in as a player when on bells in his prime you should be one hundred percent okay with najji harris. Maybe being on bell two point l. But the people say oh. Najji is the next night nausea. Look at what you're saying. You sound like an idiot and this is actually stuff that i deal with on social media. Don't be an idiot. okay have an open mind. Be able to read something and if you don't agree with then let's talk about it. But there were so many people on social media and in the comments behind the curtain dot com. That made these comments about the article. And you could just tell. They didn't look through everything they didn't see the comparisons of the times in the hot. This is the stature the highlights in the stats from college. I didn't look at it. And i said it blatantly on every single platform this is not about off the field stuff and yet here we have these morons still commenting about off the field stuff so i want to get that off my chest. If you're going to comment on something at least do the person that product provide produce the content whether it's written audio visual doesn't matter do them the service of actually watching listening or reading. That's all i gotta say that's art gotta to say 'cause if you don't do it then don't comment it's that simple and that's on anything really it is. It's on anything all right. I got a lot of my chest in this show. I hope you appreciate it. I had fun. i hope you did too. We had a weekend coming up. Will there be steelers news. I don't know but if there is. I'll be back on monday to talk about. Just that and i hope that you make behind the curtain dot com your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers wherever you get your podcasts or steelers. Steel curtain. Subscribe follow do you have to do. And also if you're listening turns itunes. I knew that half of you are give us a five star rating if you enjoy content. Leave us a good comment. It all helps exposure. We've moved into the number one slot on the steelers side. We want to stay there. I don't even even threatening us and your need your help. I need your help with. This will help us out five star rating in a good comment. We appreciate that as we always finish it out. Here be safe be kind. God bless have a great week. Everyone we'll see on monday. Those deal our period burn.

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Wherever you get your podcasters steelers the steel curtain and you will find us there for short okay. Let's talk about this before. Taking any calls fry dive into the twitter mail day expectations for the steelers. Twenty twenty one. I really think that steelers fans as a whole need to take a realistic look at this team and set realistic expectations for this team. In twenty twenty one. I say that. Because i believe that this steelers team is going to be good. Are they going to be as good. As last season. that's debatable. Some people feel like eleven to start from last season. Twenty twenty was all smoke and mirrors that the steelers were not that good that they were just beating bad teams. Maybe getting a little lucky times. Whatever the case may be. I think the steelers team is going to be good but we need to be realistic so when we're talking about realistic expectations for the pittsburgh steelers. Twenty twenty one. I think you have to start with the most important statistic of all wins and losses. That's it it's what it all boils down to. How many games are you winning. And so in this regard a lot of folks in not steeler fans not steelers media. These are more than national. Pundits are really talking about the steelers. In saying mike. Tomlin's run of non of martin's run. Not having a losing season could be up. they say it's in jeopardy. It's tough schedule. I understand the top division best division football last season taught. Is it really going to happen. Are they really gonna lose more than they win. Remember seventeen game regular season. There's no more five hundred mike. Tomlin finished five hundred. I think twice. There's no more eight eight so you're winning record or losing record from here on out. So i don't necessarily see that to be completely honest with you. i think. honestly if you're listening live on locker i'd love to hear from me in a second. I think the double digit wins is not out of the realm of possibility for the steelers. I think that when you look at the games that they have at home you have the extra home game with the seattle seahawks. You have the division that they typically a really tough. it's a tough division but they played their division opponents. Well i can see this team still being really good with that. Said i do think the steelers suffer more losses than they did. Twenty twenty finished the regular season twelve and four. We all know how it finished both in the play offs and down the stretch in because of that a lot of people still have a sour taste in their mouth in. I understand it one hundred percent. I feel everyone's pain. People need to remember this is this is me. I'm a fan okay. Do i run a website. Yes do i have a podcast at a lot of people enjoy yes. Does that mean that. I'm any less of a fan or any more of a fan. No i'm a fan just like every single person that listens. Let's ride listen zoeller afternoon. Podcast all the other morning podcasts. I want the steelers team to succeed. However i just think that it's in and it might not be a bad thing my new if the steelers do struggle a little bit if they do maybe have to find their footing sooner rather than later. We'll see i'm not saying that. Losing games is ever a good thing. But at the same time i look at this team in thank. How did that eleven. Oh treat them last year but they need a little full of themselves. A little over zealous maybe. A little prideful conceded. I don't know some would definitely say that. They think that they are they were. We'll see another realistic expectation. Is i think that steelers fan base should really prepare for the steelers rookie class in twenty twenty one to play well. I really think that they should prepare themselves to see a rookie class. Especially the top three picks in that snazzy harris out of alabama running back. That's pat fried youth tight. End at penn state in the second round net is kendrick grain center slash guard. We all phrase the center at illinois. And when you look at those. Three players should be key contributors. Are they gonna be starters that i hate that term in in football because if you look at the steelers that they come out and they don't have to tight ends in eric ebron on the field. I youth is not going to get the start yet. He might still play a percent of the offense snaps so hughes contributor but doesn't get counted as a quote unquote starter so some steelers expectations for twenty twenty one. Yeah i think they're going to be a good team. I think that they might have some struggles. It might have an early. It's going to be a long road. Is the tough grueling schedule. That just got longer in the week seven by week all we can hope and pray that it actually happens when it scheduled because we all know what happened last season when that week seven bye week turned into a week three by week or week four by weekend. It was just chaotic. Will it that way. But i don't believe that this season is going to be last season as it pertains to covid nineteen outbreaks as it pertains to moving games around and things like that. But i want to know what your expectations are. So if you're listening live on the locker room we have a couple of people here in the in the room by all means put a speaker request in. I'd love to talk to you. I love to get your take not only on the steelers expectations. But anything else that you would like to talk about. It could be anything steelers related as they are preparing for the second phase of ot as then will come the third phase of ota's which is typically when moore the veteran show up. They get some extra work in the minicamp. Then we hit a break and then once we get to that mandatory minicamps done the players gone until training camp and that's when it gets a little dicey but if you're listening live on locker room just put it in a speaker request gladly. Have you on to talk about the black and gold in the meantime hop on over here to the twitter mail. Bag answers questions from my writer. Dai crew dated testa testa. Sorry says how do you think shuker brown will fare. As a steeler he was a projected. Third rounder falls to being an undrafted. Free agent. I have high hopes but he might be just another quote less than jane and he's talking about One justin lane who came at me at twitter one time. There's a long story. I'm not going to get into that. But david answer a question. Whatever i think of a player that most deem as a great value pick all we had him projected in the fifth round we had him projected in the third round we had projected in whatever round in. They fall the question. That i always want to know is why do they fall. Is there an injury concern. Is it something that everyone else's overlooking there's always stories now that does not mean that you're curb round is not gonna be a quality player that does not mean that he won't be able to be contributor. Reports for mark. Volley of the athletic is that the steelers gave him the mos lucrative rookie undrafted rookie free agent contract in team history. That's probably one of the reasons he went to pittsburgh. And so they value him in that regard but what made him fall. What made him slip being undrafted. I don't know i don't know. But if the steelers like him enough they're going to make him the wealthiest undrafted free agent in team history. Will they must like what they see. and so. I do think that secure shaker brown is going to make the team in. I think he is going to be vying for that. Nickel cornerback daryl. He's a very versatile. Player comes from a big time school in michigan state and i could absolutely see him being a player that makes the team. If he doesn't. I'd be shocked but at the same time. Stranger things have happened. So good question david The is another justin late. I don't know we'll see. Let's get jim on here. What's up jim. How's it going. Good how are you can't complain. Will you wanna talk about well. You were talking about the expectations of the steelers. And right now. I gotta say you gotta take a step back and take a look at where people are coming from. Altogether people are saying. They're not going to be doing this because they were under randy. Land last year right at this year under canada. We don't know what. Canada has up his sleeve yet. Yeah that's a that's a great point. It's a wild card that no one knows that's like you said no one knows to go ahead continue. No i was just saying. No one knows how they're gonna react to canada and how his offense is out there so we can't really my way i look at it as you can't really say all they're gonna do great or all they're gonna do bad until you got to get in that preseason mode and get to see what they're actually doing now you're right. I agree. I agree one hundred percent. Let me ask you though. Is your expectation for let serve the rookie class. What's your expectation for those top. Three picks you think they're going to be big contributors or not so much Yes yes they're going to be big. I think the first three are going to be big. I think after that Rochet's gonna be. I think a good player and then after that. I think it's a possibility. I don't know africa universities and other one just shook round where he everyone said will adams a fourth round raid and he slips all the way to why why did he slip. I know the things happen but still in the gym last question. So your expectations when you look at the schedule which is a tough schedule. No one's going to deny that neck and change injuries could happen But still what are your expectations for win. Loss totals this year. I'm actually right there at honestly around like that. Five hundred marks you know if flip either way i always look at it this way when we're playing our division. I always say one win. One loss Just like how you said before. Like the other day about the super bowl window closing for the steelers. I dunno if it so much that people are saying that the steelers are maybe getting bad but maybe the teams around them in their division is getting better. Like gordon brown's and the rate they're getting those players. They're they're building up it's not such a cakewalk anymore. You know it's not the great anymore right. Maybe that's why when people are saying the windows closing its other teams are getting better and pittsburgh is have high expectations in the first place and they expect high expectations falls too. You're right you're right in jim. Thank you for time in. I appreciate you wanna talk to you in just put another speaker requests and the one thing that fanzine wherever you bring up the division. I wanna talk about this respect. You bring up the afc north and you look at the landscape in. Everyone saw the images last year in graphics. Last year of old man. Ben rothlisberger in young. Lamar jackson will young baker mayfield. Really young joe burrow. I think it's important that fans know that all these quarterbacks that are not named rothlisberger they're about to get paid case. I think baker mayfield sucks. I've said that over and over again. I don't think he's any good. I don't think he's ever gonna win the super bowl however the browns are going to have to pay. They are going to have to pay him. Top dollar just like the ravens be absolutely stunned in living in maryland. I hear a lot about baltimore in the ravens. I would be stunned if they don't feel inclined to pay lamar jackson now. They have other avenues where they could say. Okay we're going to let you play out your rookie deal in. We're going to pick up the fifth year option in. Then we may try to franchise tag you but at. What point is lamar jackson. Gonna say that's enough like you gotta come on. Quit string along either. Pay me or let me go somewhere that they will pay me. And the reason i bring this up is not. Because i care so much about these teams but when you look at the browns and even the ravens because they've been winning with a rookie quarterback when you look at those teams are under a rookie deal not a rookie quarterback. When they've been winning with those in that scenario they don't have to expend a lot of money of the quarterback position joe burrow will. Do the same thing will happen in four to five years with him as well in cincinnati. They are going to have to pay those players when they do. It changes everything. It changes the entire dynamic of the team. Look at perfect example. The la rams with gov. He got paid handsomely after their trip to the super bowl in his place fell off. Now he's a member of the detroit lions but the rams themselves have had to make so many trades they put themselves. They've gotten rid of so much of their draft capital. It's it's really frightening. It's really frightening. All right. we're gonna get to some more callers here in a second. I'm gonna take a quick break. So those are listening live on locker. Don't go anywhere. Because i'm not going anywhere on the audio side. This ad will be right. Support for this episode comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room is a sports fan. Dream come true. 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A lot of people wanna give their expectations talk about anything black and gold. Let's get nick on the line. What's up nick house gun. Hey jeff how you doing. I'm great what's up. So i joined a little late so i'm not sure you guys have talked about this yet but something that i'm really interested in watching and like really interested in since the draft is running back because i think especially with the addition of nausea harris. See a lot of movement there and i'm just kinda wondering what your take on. That would be my specific question. Is i think najah. Because he's such a complete back kind of makes a lot of running backs on our roster a little more obsolete or a little redundant a little more redundant than they would have been without him for example when. I'm really thinking as benny snell in particular. You know he's kinda of short yardage ground and pound back will kind of does that and he'll probably do it a little bit better than snell. I still think other other running backs have roles. Such as anthony. Mcfarland ezekie change of pace. I just wonder what you kind of think how the running back rooms gonna fall out. You know how many you think will keep because he kept so many last year and i'm wondering if najji kind of cuts will end up. The drafting of knowledgeable ended up cutting a few more running backs than usually see. The steelers are smart. And i i used to say you know. They're going to do the smart game but we've learned that they had they always if the seals are smart they really do have to keep an eye on nausea harris and his overall touches. You want to have him out there and you need to have out there to a certain extent but at the same time you really need to monitor him in you need to monitor the wear and tear on his body because you look at this this running back room although yes them. Drafting nausea harris from alabama does make some of the players obsolete. Mainly benny snell. But at the same time i could definitely see them. Keeping harris snell as an insurance policy mcfarland is a change of pace in jalen samuels solely based on the fact that he has a repertoire with the new offense coordinator matt canada for nc state in. I don't think if they do key jalen samuels. I don't think that he would be used as a running back very often. I think he'd go right back. Netted h. back role that he did it. Nc state and that he thrived with matt canada and other than that. You really don't have. There's the free agent they picked up. Who is name escapes me. But at the same thing is calvin kaelin than thank you thank you so i actually see them. Keeping four and maybe samuels goes obliged as that. They like any place long. I know they're not getting rid of mcfarland in. I doubt they give her a benny snow. But that's just my opinion. What do you think. I definitely agree. I think they keep the darling because earlier. The perfect change of pace you know. He's a smaller quicker back. And i think that's perfect. But i do. I don't know like for example. When i think about that patriots game with what two years ago now. Three years ago where Jones samuels had one hundred and forty forty or yards or something like that. I feel like he kind of played a similar game to that kind of zone. Running one cut. Benny snell type of football. So i don't know. I feel like maybe i mean you can't really trade. Benny snell because i feel like his his stock is that but like i just feel like. There's a lot of redundancy in and we have such a crowded running back room. I think it's going to be really interesting camp battle. That's what i'm what i'm excited for. Kind of st. Who shows out doesn't but yeah. Yeah you're absolutely right taking chiming in. I appreciate your absolutely right. They they are going to have a very difficult choice. Make at the running back position and there's a lot of players they're very similar and i don't necessarily see. Yeah you bring up the patriots game where jalen same rush one. Forty plus I believe that was the first time he ever rushed for over one hundred yards in his career notches. Nfl but even college because he's more of a that age back at nc state it. It'll be interesting to see it'll be interesting to see how the steelers approach. Let's get logan on what's up. Logan has done during a just wanted to talk about. What are your expectations for. The defense alana address think will keep up with their fifty year. Sorry fifty six per year pace. They've been onto the fears. Or you think. I'll end won't get many sacks. They usually do what they've led the. Nfl in sachse believes the last three seasons. They've had fifty over fifty or more sacks every season and i believe after the first season that they had fifty. I was on record. You can check the tape on the steelers preview on you live on youtube also our audience. I'd i said i don't think they're gonna do it again. And then he did it again and then they did it again and sometimes you would miss a piece of the puzzle. That would be a player. That's gone there's a player that gets hurt and they still find a way if there's one part of this defense that i don't question even without budget pre even without mike sees me even without steven nelson. It's their ability to put pressure on the quarterback if everyone stays healthy and that's a gigantic. If look at last season you know budget pre in week. Thirteen or fourteen whenever they played the ravens in heinz field. you know. He turned his acl in. That changed everything. But a vacant stay healthy. Logan i think that they are definitely going to be at or above fifty and will they lead the nfl in sacks. I'm not sure but. Tj watt has gotten better every single season not only on the field in terms of the eye test but also from a statistical standpoint. And so i see no reason why he wouldn't be able to continue that trend. Have you agree. Logan or you think it ends on the lawn has been outstanding the past At least five years. So i think it will keep going and what Three players do you think. We'll have them of sax on the team. Okay three players most sacks. I'm gonna go with tj while number one. Now last season thank steph onto it. Hit double digits last season cam. Heyward had really low sakamoto. I wanna say he was round four. That's that's to me. that's an anomaly. That's not normal. And you throw alex highsmith into the mix. I'm gonna say watt one. I'm gonna say alex highsmith to in. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it's cam. It has a better twenty. Twenty one in hobe third. That's my guess. You agree with that or you have a different list. Logan you could so you put toured in there but other than that baby underdog roche could probably find his way into five or six sacks that'd be great performance out of a sexual So but do you think five or six would be enough beating five or six for top three. Though i wouldn't think so would you. I was just saying has yet. You're right. I don't think he's going to be in the top three. But the highsmith bought to an hayward should be top three absolutely absolutely so all right logan thanks for chiming in appreciate anyone else. That wants to talk live on the locker room after splitting the speaker request. Glad to have you on. We have a couple of people on the comments section. That are talking about this or saying. Alex is mistaken. As brian says he has devon bush at six sacks. I could see it Although sometimes you have the vince williams site that is kind of the slash gets in there but are we have another speak request. Nick wants to talk. What's up nick. How's it going good kind of on the topic of the defensive line i was. I've been thinking about you know. Honestly just. Chris warmly a lot and i know you guys have talked about you know. There's a possibility that chris warmly got signed because they thought they were losing tyson. Aloom and then you see them bringing in this louder. Milk kid from our even. Remember squeezed from wisconsin wisconsin. You know econo- makes you wonder like. Do you think that they would move on from someone like warmly to try to clear up more cap space to sign a Another free like ryan kerrigan. Who just got signed by the eagles at one year for three three point. Two million or something as dealers could match that but anyways to answer your question about one we. I m someone. The believes that the steelers signed because a lulu said he was going elsewhere. Now does that mean that they cut him though. I don't know. I'd have to look at the structure of his contract. Nc how much money would he still be owed will the day save. It's certainly a possibility. People need to remember they just because a player gets signed. Even if it's a free agent doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to stick around so everyone's everyone kind of was bashing the joe hague signing. Oh joe hey was awful last year for tampa bay okay. So they drafted dan more he pans out. Joe hage is not needed anymore. You get rid of them. You get rid of him. By certain at certain period. I forget what the window is that you have company think. That's the other free agents deals abroad in it. Just don't pan out dante. Moncrieff comes to mind So chris worldly signed a two year deal if he does doesn't isn't fitting there is one thing to keep in mind though. He's the only player on the current roster that is labeled as a nose. Tackle that something of debt. That's no worthy to me. Because the steelers the they said that they liked to have a nose tackle and they know that lewis tried. They haven't had one since hargrave left. So i don't know if that means anything to unique but to me. That's kinda tells me that they might have had it. They might have a niche role for him. This seat that could be. I just think of like. I feel like the d. Line is one of our strengths. You know we have a lot of really good pieces. There we have hayward we have to we have a lulu and then beyond that you know we have bugs who you know. Played all right. He was injured last year but played pretty well and then carlos davis he certainly exceeded expectations and then just seeing them bringing this draft pick it kind of makes me wonder like that's a really crowded room and i feel like not a lot of those guys are people that you can just kinda stash on a practice squad and not have anyone notice maybe louder mill but i mean you give a fourth round pick next year for that. I feel like it'd be really foolish. We put them on the practice bottom. Someone else google map you know. There's no way in my opinion outside of the top. Three draft picks. There's no one safer on this roster than isaiah louder milk you just you cannot trade a fourth round twenty twenty tech to get into the fifth round and then cut that player if would have just taken him in the fifth round. That's different but you treated into that round to take that guy and so i don't think he's going anywhere. Carlos davis in isaiah bugs. They're going to battle it out. I do think it's the end of the road for like a guy like henry mondale. I think bond does a great. Excuse me he's a great story. But ultimately i just don't think there's a spot for him and made even isaiah bugs 'cause people forget at the end the last season it was carlos davis those getting snaps over above in. That's when bugs. Got all butthurt part. My french on the sideline and was having a hissy fit. It was warmly had break-up he in davis because he wasn't playing and he was even inactive isaiah. Bugs was towards the end of the season. So something to keep in mind else nick. I actually didn't know that that's really interesting now that you say that. So yeah replacement for bugs. Yeah thank you never know all right. Thank you appreciate it all right. Let's get to the twitter mail bag here. Finish out the show mendez steelers seemed to be looking to signing a veteran out side linebacker. Do i have a favourite free agent. That i would like to see signed I would like to see justin. Houston look i was all on the ryan kerrigan train. It was a gut punch to see him. Signed with the philadelphia eagles. Four so cheap. If you would have gotten a lucrative deal. I would've been the i get it. You know you got your money. No one else is often money. But the steelers Him from his much eighty as a similar offer. He decided to stay in the nfc east because he wanted harass the washington football team. I don't know. But i would love to see justin houston. I think it would be a great gift for the steelers. People don't understand that last season even at his age. He's thirty two even last season at eight sacks for the indianapolis colts in the year before that he had eleven double digits acts. This is a player they could come in. And if you don't need him to be an every down pass rusher perfect role for him perfect role. Tj what needs arrest. He's gonna give you that pass rushing presents. You need same with highsmith. I'd love to see them. Get justin used. Ben pease is. Do you think we'll pick up another veteran. Cornerback the other side of hayden or just roll with what we have also who in the wide receiver group do you think will make a major splash. This season okay. So let's break this down. Did by bit to pick up another veteran. No i don't They did sign. Excuse me they did. Sign a cornerback. Slash safety earlier. This season really kind of flew under the radar to be honest with you in that was by a name. A gentleman of the name of arthur molet arthur mullet. He played for the new york. Jets again. He has played some safety and some corner. Now are jeffrey benedict is going to have a film room breakdown on this gentleman soon and he is basically talking to me a little bit in the rest of our staff about how. He thinks that he could be this. Mike hilton role in a vacant. Just find someone to fill that slot. Cornerback position it really frees them up. I didn't camp sutton is going to be pretty pretty good so i don't think they'll have to worry about that as the wide receiver group who will make a major splash. I don't think it's a surprise. But i would definitely say it's chase claypool. You thought he was good in your one way to his ears belt way too. He has another year with rothlisburger. Wait till he has an offensive coordinator. That actually knows what he's doing. He could be really special in venues the hashtag tag crew and looking for harvard third jersey. I love absolutely love. Let's get back to the locker room at ace. What's up as as a gallon. What's on your mind. Oh yeah i'm just. I'm just here to talk. I guess. I guess the first thing we're probably be. What do you think are now he was talking about. You know author mullet. Gosling that. But i gonna say for me because i thought he i thought we were gonna drive to maximum. And that's what. I like the the The secure brown's side. That's not my favorite of the. You know what. I'm saying. Because i thought that was gonna be one of the people. We took fourth fifth round. I what i thought right. So we picked him with us cool own. You also do get you know gilbert. He's interesting you know. He has had a couple of really good season couple of years ago. But i mean. I'm not gonna say he isn't good so but i will say that a lot of people has happened to the fact that he is relative to The readers yeah. Yeah the connection. There's a connection there. I know that a lot of people it is a good point as in thank you for chiming in. I appreciate it you know i. I'm really when i look at this. Cornerback group and will include the undrafted free agents. Who shook around is and definitely some others but when i look at this cornerback group. I really not as frantic in freaking out as much as other people are. There are some people that are screaming from the rooftops in the mountaintop. Saying all we need to sign a corner. I feel like they did when they got arthur. The lead in. I really don't think they need to make any moves now. That doesn't say now. They don't need to make news now if they wanna make a move. In my opinion they do a ross cockrell. What does that mean. They wait until after cuts are made a training camp and then they pick up somebody that maybe has a really deep cornerback. Room that they're like. Hey we can grab this guy. He could be a really good dime cornerbacks for us in. He can come in and play right away. That's the only move it would make but that's just me. Let's get nick vacuum one last time if we go. What's up. neg what's on your mind. All right i have do last things. One is just a statement. I've been thinking about this a lot. It's about The the new center kendrick green. I just wanted to say like. I love this kid. And i've heard i've heard a lot of doubt around him a lot of worries around him but this kid is like an animal. I was listening to one of his pre-draft podcasts. And he said in his predrag Podcast a lot of teams told him that they expect them to be center so he's actually had some time for any center. He's been training all skis at center. Because that's what most teams told them. They'd like the plan but on top of that dude with just like a physical freak at his pro day and he ran a four eight. Six forty which is like crazy and i- comparison is create humphrey. Who everyone said he had all world He ran like a five zero nine or something like that his pro day like this kid is he's a he's a physical beast. I think he's gonna be perfect for like polling center that the steelers do i love the I actually picked him in a ton of mock draft Super excited to see that. We picked him up with that. That's my that's that's just one thing. I wanna say. The question i had for. You is about linebacker so completely different. I kind of have always viewed vince williams and robert splaying very similarly. I think explains a lot of younger and a little more athletic. Like not a huge difference. I'm just kinda wondering how you see them if you see them as similar players or if see them as completely different players or how you would evaluate them right next thank you. let's First and foremost kendrick green was considered by many the most athletic center of the entire the entire class in that that includes everyone. You mentioned create. Humphry you could talk about land dickerson. All the most athletic the steelers value that he has speed. He does have a nasty. Let's not please. let's not underscore a we need underscore that because that is important. This guy is not gonna take just eight not going to be pushed around. We'll put it that way as for your question I completely forgot your question. Come on tell me about. The question is area. Now what was your question. I totally forgot. I was still getting. He's such an exciting prospect. Now i questioned was Inside linebacker position yes Splaine explain yeah. I've kind of always do them as similar. But i feel like you know. Spend just a little bit younger a little martha but i was just wondering if you see them any major differences or how you kind of evaluate the to your thank you for jogging my memory. Goodness gracious getting older. All right thanks next. Spelane and williams are similar in a lot ways. They've they both are great. Run stoppers spelane. More athletic than vince williams. When it comes to coverage but vince williams is a better blitzer. Vince williams sheds blockers better. So these two players. Everyone wants to set up a battle between the two. And i say why. I don't think you have to when you can have where you put one in compared to the other. And when i look at this. I think it's Lane and williams is a great. Combo is long as devon bush's healthy it devon bush's healthy than the steelers inside linebacker core is fine. You can put spain in certain spots. Don't forget miles killebrew. I talked about. How warmly is listed as a nose tackle miles killebrew's listed as a linebacker. Not sure if you knew that or not but he is. Keep that in. Mind as well all right. Let's get this up here. We did start a little bit early for the joining us. The tame ones play tonight. I wanna make sure we get everyone three before the pen. Start their playoff push. Hopefully they beat the islanders western kansas with the addition of fryer means. Do you expect to see more too tight inflammations or might he challenge iran for the starting job. I don't think he's going to challenge. Ebron because iran is a different type of player. He's he's more of your wide receiver tight end With that said. I think that him being there could in should in hopefully will equate to more two tight. End sets with the steelers western. You can also ask knowing what you notice today. Who's the starting office in line. Okay left to right starting left tackle. I have troops core for what i know. Today left guard. I have kevin no-brainer center. Kendrick green. I think he wins. The job in training camp rookie starts at center reich guard. David decastro all pro. Don't you just say a word about him right tackle. I've got zack. Banner because he won that job. Last season mike tomlin said he wants it back there this season and to be completely honest with you. If that's the steelers offense from left to right barring kendra green completely following flat on his face. I liked that offensive line. You might disagree. That's fine last questions. Zips says what numbers do you think. Harrison armies will put up the season. I will say that for harris. I have predicted that. He is not going to get one thousand yards on the ground. I do predicted to have roughly twelve hundred total yards. Though i have about nine hundred rushing two hundred. Some odd yards receiving equate to over a thousand total yards. I think he's going to be a good red zone threat as well. I see him having about nine to ten touchdowns believe it or not in terms of fryer music. I don't think he's going to have a lot of yards again. Another red zone threat. I'll say four to five touchdowns. Total receiving yards will put it at three fifty in have a good season. I think that will You know people really understand that when it comes to fire me. He's more of a two way tight end and maybe he'll develop his own his own piece of the puzzle. We'll put it that way so all right folks that does it for me for those. Are listening live locked room have thank you for chiming in. I really do appreciate every single one of you. My rider diary. There's the people that never missed my. Let's ride podcast. Which is found anywhere we get. Your podcast served steelers or behind the curtain. subscribe solitude. Every after every monday wednesday and friday it airs at five. Am eastern time. You can check it out whenever you get a minute. Also make sure you check out behind the steel curtain dot com for all your pittsburgh steelers needs as we always finish out here folks be safe be kind in god. Bless have a great day. We'll see evacuate on friday jan the morning.

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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Converting the Steelers running shame back to a running game

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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Converting the Steelers running shame back to a running game

"Support for this podcast comes from lexus. There are many names for enthusiast. Like aficionado fashiony. Sta foodi sneaker head audio file but there's only one way to become one going all in that's why lexus has gone all in on the sports sedan by designing the new lexus. I s because the greater the obsession the greater the reward learn more at lexus dot com slash s. Welcome back to the steelers hangover from behind the curtain dot com. My name is brian. Anthony davis tony is alongside with me. We are talking about the steelers news of the day. Plenty of things happening tony. We talked about the fact that you there's speculation that ben roethlisberger even more is not coming back with a d king. Kabbalah saying that you know what there's people inside the steelers organization that don't really want him back now that they are ready to move on from him even a report of. Espn said you know you came out today. And said even though the steelers moved moved on from excuse me went ahead and restructured cam. Heyward contract if Doesn't mean that that money is going to ben rothlisberger. It might go to the quarterback situation but the team does might not feel the exact same that they felt about rothlisberger just two weeks ago. So we've got plenty of news. That's up upcoming. We also have something else that we didn't talk about today so far but it looks like there was cova news out of the Pittsburgh facilities the report is that it's possibly mike tomlin. And we wish him the best of luck with his recovery from that and hope he's feeling better very soon so tony with all that news coming out we you and i are still talking about running backs and where where the steelers or possibly gonna go. Absolutely yeah i i i like. I like the idea of bringing in a guy who may be been who has potential to to improve but hasn't but isn't so expensive that it's going to record a team like the steelers cap. So that's who i'm looking at a guy like patrick lindsay. Who i know is a restricted free agent. Who it's good to he might. The broncos might Want to keep him but you know they they. They do have melvin gordon. So maybe maybe he becomes available. Somebody like that. But somebody like a aaron jones or chris carson for what you would have to pay them. It would be great to get them here. But i don't know if if that would be a great idea for them that kind of money in in in those guys when they were They went They had head. it took them Two years try to figure out what they were levy unbalanced they ultimately had to had to walk away from him because he was asking for too much money. So i don't know if that's a good idea for them to go after one of those guys Just because of their financial situation. I i i like the idea of bringing somebody who's who's looking to. Maybe maybe make a name for himself in a second contract. Here's a guy that i love tony. It's marlon mack. Now he did not have a great year last year because he tore his achilles tendon. He was catching a pass against the jacksonville jaguars in week. One they actually lost that game to jacksonville to In week one and jonathan taylor came in became the starting running back. Nyheim hines worked in there as a pass catcher as well but marlon mack has been very good in his career. He's getting ready to start his fourth year. As a pro out of south florida. I remember the steelers. Were actually a checking him out up before the draft way back For years ago when he came. And he's a guy that i really liked. Tony and i think he somebody that the steelers could possibly bring in because of a situation at a nice Bargain deal but still but still a good deal for mac as well. I think I think that would be a really good situation for both. What are your thoughts on marlon mack. When we talked about on the phone last night or the other night. I i li i looked up and check the stats and i loved it. I loved the idea. i mean. Twenty three hundred yards Jonathan taylor they're they're they're going to give him every every opportunity to succeed since he was her a second round pick last year so you can know. A guy like marlon mack. Who who you know. He's going to get a race going into a second contract but he's not gonna to command to kind of bucks at a aaron jones would or or carson so you can get him get him in here and and say look you. You're going to give you the the reins as yet at the top guy in the backfield. you know. obviously. Benny snell have something to say about that. And training camp but or nfl mcfarland. But you you bring him in here gives opportunity to win that starting job and he could make a career for himself so i excuse me. I like the idea of that kind of player for them to go after whether it's marlon mack. Patrick lindsay davis. Somebody like that somebody that that that's gonna be able to improve his career situation by coming pittsburgh. You know what. I like. That and i agree with you on that. Now there's a. There's some chatter in the live chat talking about the fact that some of these guys get injured too easily. Running backs are going to get injuries. And they're going to be out an achilles injury to me is not something that means. You're chronically going. You're chronically getting injured. you know it's a you know. Some of the things do happen. Yeah i just. Don't think. I i think bring in a guy like this and given a chance in seeing what you've got with the other two guys they're probably a good go rent still draft somebody but you don't have to draft somebody. Hi i'm tempted. If i'm if i'm making the pick and i see nausea harris there at twenty four. I'm tempted however. I just think the needs of the team are more important especially on that offensive line. I'm still thinking garter center. Some people are thinking offensive tackle. I don't think they can go wrong there. But what i'm saying is you might see some action free agency and you still think they still might go ahead and draft. Somebody high but if i'm making the decision right now at the end of february i'm saying go after marlon mack. You can afford them. And he's one of those guys going into his fourth year. That could be really good. I absolutely agree. I think that's what that's what that's that's your action as you go after if they're looking to bring in the different running back other than james conner and with with benny snell anthony mcfarland and then you bring in a guy like that a guy that that again you can you can give them a better deal than the already has had his rookie deal. But you're not going to break the bank to bring a man and and if he becomes a star than it's a great problem to have A few a few years down the road looking for another contract. So i think that's that's what you do in the meantime you try to build the rebuild the interior of that offensive line. And you hope that guys like zach banner and szucs can can keep continued to develop as as your tackles so. This is what we're going to do next. We're going to go ahead and open this up to the live chat. We want to hear from you. You can throw in your questions remember. If you go throw thrown a super chat will move to the top of the queue and what we're gonna do. I'm if you've already put it on the live chat to put it on again. Because you know i don't multi task that well. I'm going to take some of them. That i see here but we want to see which way you want to go with the running back position so go ahead throw in your comments and then go ahead and throw in questions if you have them was well. We've got about seven minutes left in the show. Clarence washington says either nausea or travis. Haidian should be our first pick and then we could get offensive linemen in the second third routes. That is a possibility. because you're deep with offensive. Lineman it just depends how much in love they are with. Nashi harris if he is there graduate says he's going to be there twenty four. He's like eighty percent. Sure but i think we pass them up honestly is what he says. I love this hobby. Air says what would be weirder franco harris and a seahawk uniform or ben playing for another team. I it will be weird to see beng another uniform. Yeah i mean. I grew up land. Grew up know. I spent many more years following. Ben rothlisberger than i did. Franco harris franco harris. Was you know he was. He was in my very very young days. The steeler fan so he was already retirement age. I saw ben rothlisberger entire career in pittsburgh. Jay would definitely be weerasinghe ben in another uniform jeff. Kozlowski says thoughts on the draft. I'm hoping the steelers trade back and stockpile picks plus sign. Preferred free agents to get the compensation picks. Yo the there you go there too. There's a there's a possibility and michael beck been talking about this. The other fellas. Jeffrey a lot of them have been talking about. Don't mess up. The compensation picks next year. Because you've got an opportunity to get a couple a couple threes and fours. She's now you can only get four complex but if you lose guys like villanueva. Bundu pre smith schuster james conner. You've got the possibility of Two three to four maybe three threes and a four. It just depends but you can get up to four. You could have a heck of a draft coming up next year too. But if you've got got the money and you can improve your team with some of these guys you've got an opportunity. I love this guy row. I'm bringing back bell. Screw it and and we made them the general manager of his own team. So he's a lot to do that better. He hasn't shown anything since twenty. Seventeen really. so you're talking about why players. I think that's not only spell washed up. I think but. I don't think he really cares about football. I don't think he ever did. I think he's off always been about trying to you. Know make as much money as he was a great player. Great competitor in his prime. But i always less concerned about His luggage he didn't he was about making money which is fine. You know you'd probably be surprised. How many nfl players just look at it as a job. And they're in it for the paycheck like a lot of us in life and and you know so. I don't know if fell really want would really even want to come back. I i think he might not now that he's played on. He didn't win the super bowl but now played on our plate in one. I think i think he might retire. Honestly you never know. There's money to be made. It just depends. What's going on in their head. Richard mckinney says chris carson from the seahawks. Carson's a nice player. I know he had some injury issues last year. But but it's a running back Doesn't donald linda's bad tony. Would you rather have. Adrian peterson of frank gore. As a running back on the steelers. Right away. I say frank gore if you're going to pick between the two I think frank. Frank gore those injuries like in a. He had injuries at the university of miami heat injuries earlier on in his career. But frank gore he. He's like ageless at this point. So i if i had to pick either one of them to bring it on the team i would say frank gore. I'm not saying i'm why would do that. But that's the guy would go. Oh yeah i agree. I think record would be the better option. What i want to know is if i could talk to you either. One of those guys is what's the secret. What's the secret to having a long lasting career as a running back because they're the exceptions when you look at the superstar running backs how many of them we talk about loving on about how many just fade out. After a certain age a certain number carries and these guys are just iron men. Frank gore people joke about him playing for twenty seven years. I mean i. It's amazing with both of them have been able to do so. I don't know what the secret is. Having a long lashing careers are running back in the nfl. That's that's something that is really hard to figure out. remember this. You know the last time that the steelers gave a running back a second contract. Ooh the bus not ninety six. No i know i know. They had to sign him as his. When after i came here. They've given them extra contra they've given them other contracts but the last guy a second contract. Is it fast willie. We talked about him on the retro show. Recently mr garon hanes long. How that's amazing okay. It's been almost fifteen years since a running back has gotten another contract. Andrew will bar either. Sign marlon mack or jamaal williams or a pair mcfarland with amid around power. Back like raymond ray stevenson. I think andres out of oklahoma. If i'm not mistaken fixed the line before drafting a running back all right i. I'm done with that too. And i get it. I'm i'm still looking towards an offensive. Lineman i but i'm leaning towards guard center and i know run. Chess has been saying in the live. Chat that you know that. There's colbert saying that. They don't really like the guard. Centers out there. But i like davis humphrey and i like a dickinson to is it. Tickets in bicker it's dickerson dickerson. I kept on com dickinson So andrew wilbur wants to trade back absolutely Somebody else mentioned that about your stockpiling. Some pics with the trade back so cairo says She don't need to know line he he just loves. He loves chachi. Any any anyone spell back to. So that's that's guy roux's planet you know what i like. Nashi i it i might change on this. To retinal rivers says. Ohio state has good center. And that's why it davis who we were talking about. george tustin. What are you guys going to start the after parties. They're coming up really soon. And i'm talking about sooner than you would think george. We had a meeting about it yesterday. And i believe that you will. We will be after partying some way shape or form on thursday nights real real soon. So tony we. We went ahead and we looked at the running back situation. We're gonna take another position next week. I'm not going to spoil it yet. That means i didn't figure it out yet. You and i haven't had a chance to talk about it but we're going to go ahead and do that next week. We'll be doing this on the hangover for a while as we get ready for free agency and get ready for the draft. It'll be a lot of a lot of fun. Oh did i make a mistake here. Rochester saying that it's a it's myers. So where's wyatt. Davis had of i. I think i made a mistake here. let's look that up because why davis is a guy that Okay white davis is a. He's a guard for the ohio. State buckeyes so yeah. I was right that he will state but davis is a guard. And then you have a okay so thanks for the help on that one. I do appreciate that. I did make a mistake there as well. So yes so. Josh meyers at at center. Why why they got some good players there and they've got a they've got a running back there too that you can look at and that such trae sermon. Who was the championship game for the big ten. When he went off he had over three hundred semi art. My my uncle was endorsing him like six weeks ago when i was over his house. That's the guy that should go after he's he's horror she's ever machine so there you go so you know. There's guys that you can get in the second third and fourth round as running backs. My plan once again is go ahead. And look at a guy like marlon mack. But a i might change on that as well and we're going to get ready to get out of here but not before we Not before i find this a super chat from our good friend just me one of our favorites here on the show and you're all our favorites Somebody that's been around with us for a while and she's she has the super bowl forty hat on. So you gotta love that. I've i wear my super bowl. Forty t shirt that. I just took the tags off of it. It has the steelers embassy hawks on it and It's before the game. I just took the tags off of it. I've got about ten t shirts from that. Super bowl that i bought a giant eagle bought at the eagle in just pennsylvania. You're typically year a true pittsburgh. And i bought a bunch of them like couple months after the super bowl they were on clearance and a kept them and i kept them in a in a box. And i'm like you know what i'm gonna start wearing these so i i took out my My thanks jerome. T shirt that got from there too but So i love it. But that's not what she's saying here. I'm just talking about our hat. When love you guys alone or together any chance laugh laugh laugh out loud great show guys keep on keeping on so any chance what Much sure but thanks for the ten dollars. I appreciate it just me. We appreciate you. We appreciate everybody in the live chat. great friends. And we're so glad to have you guys you girls whoever you are we love you and we're so glad that you're part of us. We can't do these shows without you just really can't look on live chats amazing and you guys will walk through fire with us. I know if i asked any of you. Go in a dark alley with me. You guys would have our back so we love you so thanks so much. We're going to get on outta here. Check us out next week. Also check us out on the podcast platform. We've got a great retro. Show this week as well tony. I'm really excited for that. And check out behind the curtain dot com for all of your breaking news. Your commentary your film. Break down everything. There is on the editorial side as well so anyways for tony. My name is brian. Anthony davis absolutely. We love you. I can't say it enough. And i wanna say this be safe. Be true to yourself and be behind the steel curtain for tony. I'm brian and just when you think you've got all the answers. 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