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Best Of (Embiid + Simmons, Dak's contract, Belichick + Brady, Ricky Stenhouse Jr. joins the show)

First Things First

31:02 min | 1 year ago

Best Of (Embiid + Simmons, Dak's contract, Belichick + Brady, Ricky Stenhouse Jr. joins the show)

"The sixers picked up a very much needed win at home last night. Albeit over over the Chicago Bulls Joel Twenty eight points. While Ben Simmons a triple double PHILEAS dominated bad teams all season probably because they're bad teams twenty six against teams below five hundred twelve and fifteen against teams above five hundred all right nick if you had to choose. Would you rather build a team around. Joel embiid or Ben Simmons because we are getting to the point where it seems like. You're going to have to choose breezy if you told me. When there's the four seconds left in game seven of the Eastern Conference semifinals and the sixers are down to Jimmy Butler or streaming up court seemingly force overtime? Or maybe pull up take a three two win the game right there. That nine months later we'd be talking about breaking up the sixers Butler would-be gone that the J. Radical be gone that now we're talking about which who can you keep Benner Joel. I'd say you're crazy like this is going to be filling Milwaukee in the east for the next decade. But the way phileas played on the lack of maturity shown by their two stars and the lack of cohesiveness which with those guys on the court at the same time makes this legitimate question and to me. The easy answer is I'd rather build around him beat. I'd Rather Trade Simmons. I think that embodied while I I don't think he's reached his full. Potential is certainly closer and a guy who has shown the ability if he can stay in shape and if he can get some some of the NBA maturity stuff better and check. He can be a dominant force in a league that is going small having the biggest strongest potentially one of the US guys in the League can be enormous benefit when he's as Nimble as Joel has shown the ability to be. Meanwhile Ben Simmons if I show you video of him and I don't tell you what year it is. You have no idea what what you're watching whether it's first you've been seven second. You're Ben Simmons this year Ben Simmons. He's the skill set that made him a tremendous rookie. Makes him disappointing at this point in his career to me. There's no way around that. Would that said I do think he is trade value. I do think there'd be teams that want him teams that don't have the big man clogging the paint like what he could do. So I would if I have to trade one of them. Howard I'm trading been because I do think he has enormous value and I'm keeping Joel? I can't disagree. I can't disagree and by the way if anybody thinks. Oh It's premature or are these people already talking about trying to break these guys up or the media's trying to let me tell you something this is the conversation around the entire NBA. This is what other teams are talking about to. That those two do not click well together that the sixers sixers have hit a ceiling and that it's inevitable whether it's this summer or Bhai next year's trade deadline whatever it's going to be. The clock is ticking on Simmons and NBA. Now that's ultimately up to the sixers to decide not all of the chatterboxes around the NBA. But that is the buzz around the league and to your point. Nick I lean. I'm beat also. It's not just the makeup. The fact that he's a seven footer. WHO's got some guard steals? It could do damage inside and out in the power and the Nimble nece all of that. It's that Joel embiid cares. I liked seeing tears from Joel. EMBIID's is after they were eliminated by the raptors. I like the passion that was behind that now if you want to say yeah. But he didn't follow up he didn't come back in the best shape or he didn't find. I get that he cares. I still I look at Ben. Simmons and I don't know sometimes he. He is so just just kind of emotion less. I don't even know how he just just very stoic out there and that doesn't necessarily you mean you don't care right. Kawhi Leonard showed us you can be still and still have a great passion. Burning Inside is also shown us how much he cares every single year of his career. Yes coming back with a new skill or an improved skill or investigate police players to us we. You can tell us you care through your emotions you have to show us you care or through the evolution of your game so to speak and we just haven't made I was Jin remember couple of years ago. I was as big of a Ben. Simmons was because I said we focus the one thing he does poorly instead of all the other things he does great and the argument. Of course he'll get better at that one thing but he hasn't and he maybe he's tried cried to get better in practice but in the games there's been no evidence whatsoever that he has any willingness. Shoot the basketball and that at this point in two thousand twenty. You can't win that way. The thing that concerns me the most nick was earlier. I think it was in this season. Zero preseason where when the subject came up of his refusal to shoot his reticence listens to shoot it was basically. I'm all star like that was an actual exchange that happened. You can't think that way you know we're all talking about for the last few weeks all the lessons. We learned from coby Brian his career. What did Kobe do consistently throughout his career? He worked on his game. He strove to get better and he constantly added things. Nobody can come into this league. No matter how how talented you are and so you know what I'm GonNa Start Laurels. It just doesn't work that way not in the NBA. And we're not in a place in time right now where you're going to have a head coach that's going to force you to do certain things that you don't want to do in the question with his team now becomes what's more likely to happen. Ben Simmons Learns How to shoot or Joel on bead gets in shape that kind of shape. You WanNa see him playing it and I think you guys are both saying Joel. EMBIID is the one. That's most likely I've seen Joylin shape and I think one of the things where I try to be fair with Joel. I'm standing might have some eating habit issues. Whatever that is because he's at injury issues and because he's so big he can't do the regular conditioning guys need to do? He's going to have to at times play his way into shape because he can't do all of the off season things cardiovascular. Wise that you would need to do Rian tiptop shape because he does have to be careful on his lower body in in the lower extremities and him rot running five miles for example takes more than just about any other player in the league other than other than Mirjana Mirjana rich. You know what I mean running five miles because of how big is and so I do get I. Don't WanNa give him say I give him a pass but I understand it. The Simmons stuff's inexcusable. And and and the attitude stuff that you you're much closer league circles than I am but I still hear certain things I mean. People do wonder is Ben. Simmons ends more infatuated with being a star. Then he is with being a star player like that is a real. I don't know been so I can't speak to it. I know that is whether it's true or not. A question people around the League have about an and it's not an unusual. I don't know when Ben Simmons well enough to know either whether that's the case case but it is the case that that happens with NBA players. Right we know that this happens. There are some guys who are more about the lifestyle and the limelight and the payday than they are about a passion for winning and again this goes back to my just distance observation of these two guys. EMBIID has a passion and a caring there that you can see. That's evident. His emotions are on his sleeve. Ben Simmons it does not it makes me wonder one quick. Follow Point because Ben Simmons beyond the trade block this summer. This was one of the reasons that I thought that Golden State trade was such an abomination that if the warriors and up with the number one pick which was the worst record. I know you're far from it. I wonder what Phillies says to Diangelo. Russel in the number pick four can do better you think who can do but I think the sixers can do better if Simmons is on the block. They're going to be able to do better than even that. Okay Fair enough because I think ben actually would fit great in golden state because he doesn't need to shoot because you have all the shooting the world around you and I think de Ngelo Russell be much better fit next to Joel even though Ben might be a better player than de Ngelo Russell. It's just the been simmons comes available. I think there's GonNa be a lot of people feel like we can fix what ails them or. We don't even won't won't even ask him to change because we don't have. Joel embiid clawing pain look. We've done the sixers so many times. Every time we finish I could easily say the same sentence you can count on one hand the amount of time. It's Ben Simmons Simmons's shot a three point shot. What is it three or four more threes than he does football now onto the Dallas cowboys among the juicier rumors swirling how about this one Dak Prescott being replaced by Tom Brady? It picked up some traction this weekend but Stephen Jones quickly refuted it saying his. Currently unsigned quarterback. Prescott is quote the guy that can help us win championships. Nick what should the cowboys do with Dak Prescott. So I find this really fascinating. This conversation and I thought the Brady rumor was great because it's something we joked about months ago brady replacing. Yeah that I feel like if Tom Brady with the Dallas cowboys would rename the show. First things first in Brooklyn and it would just be wall to cowboys was like me and my job so easy but it. I don't think think it's likely but you understand how they could thread the needle. If backward a move on so the cowboys do assuming that has not drastically changed what has contract to me and appear appear to have been for the last year which is top of the market money I think their only option is to franchise tag him. But that didn't does bring in to play another option. which is if you franchise tag him? I would be very interested in Dallas talking around the league. What is the trade value of Dak Prescott? I saw frank clerk clerk. Who's a good player? He's not one of the best pass rushers and football. He's a good player. He made some great plays for my chiefs. This postseason he got franchise tag he. He went for a one and a two a first and a second round pick for Frank. Clark traded under the Franchise Tag d Ford traded under the franchise tag for a second round. Pick Laremy Tunsil just went not under the franchise tag but he just went for two number ones and something. The reason I bring up is what could the cowboys get. Ah for Dak Prescott. If they were to believe we can sign Tom Brady short-term we can sign. Tom Brady giving the offense of line. He wants the running game. He wants a number number one receiver. We'll have the money because figure the quarterback out. Yeah well yeah figure the quarterback post Brady out later could the cowboys get two ones and something for Dak Prescott with the Los Angeles chargers who are trying to sell tickets. Who Don't have a quarterback who have the sixth pick of the draft? Would they give you the number six overall pick and in their first round or next year and maybe something else for the opportunity stabilize their quarterback position and say screw. It will pay all the money he wants. I would if I were Dallas. I wouldn't want to know because I would certainly rather have a whole bunch of draft picks and a whole bunch of cap space then pay back thirty thirty seven million dollars a year now. Tax Contract demands have dropped significantly changes things but of our franchise tag deck. I'm asking around the League as quietly as I can. What is his value to you? What would you give me for him? There's a reason. Why teams normally don't allow their quarterback to get in this position? Not just because of the money. But because he's the face of your franchise he's a guy who's going to hold things together. He's got his want to deliver the message to the team to the to the public. Everything else in the cowboys did they think that is a guy this going to bring them championships in the future. They should have never allowed this to happen. DOC is coming off his best season as a pro forty forty nine hundred yards thirty thirty touchdowns and interceptions. He has been impressive. You know you talk about the guys that you compared to Jared Goff as well as Carson Wentz. Both of those guys got paid with two years left on their contract. And I I happen to believe that this contract for the cowboys doesn't necessarily come down to average per year. It's not thirty five million or thirty six million per year sure. I don't think it comes down to that. I think it comes down to guaranteed money. The little small fine print incentives those types of things and once. They figured out this gets done to me this. This is a no brainer. You don't want forty three year old. Tom Brady you WanNa Young Dak Prescott and allow this team to build with him but still two off seasons ago we all sat here. And we're like well Dak Prescott will be signed signed before Saturday. It'll be signed before the first game of the season. No problem he went from bean their franchise. They're guy th the Rock and the foundation one of the Dallas Cowboys. And now here we are talking about. Possibly I know the juniors rumors but maybe deck leaves the cowboys. I mean this was Jerry. Jones is how do we get to this good at some point the negotiation. And you see this happen in the media business. Sometimes you see this happen in the business world sometimes which is two parties Austin each other and want to be together just have very very different opinions on the value and it causes a separation. You either there are I think back to you. Know Howard Stern when he left to go to satellite radio address. Radio didn't want to lose him he just thought. Hey I'm I'm worth what eighty million a hundred million a year and they said we need you. We love you. We want you but we can't pay you that and he found someone who could it wasn't because they he hated each other at least in. Maybe I have the stern history slightly wrong general story. I think wonder stand which is sometimes people. Just I am worth x and the person trying to pay you said man you're worth x minus ten and you can't meet in the middle that that's the only reason the cowboys and Dak haven't yet come. I'm doing agreement. which but you would be comfortable paying Dak.? Maybe not highest paid in the League but make him one of the four or five highest paid quarterbacks in football and I think it comes down to guarantees so I put them at thirty five between thirty five and forty million a year right and obviously he's not going to get forty. That's Patrick Mahomes. Money's not going to get forty but let's say thirty five. Let's say that's the number and you get them is guarantees verities Carson. Wentz got sixty six and a half million at signing a one hundred seven guaranteed this jerk off fifty fifty five fifty six million or so and signing in one hundred and ten guaranteed so if your deck. You're saying I want to have that ability to be in that race. Nobody's million guaranteed so that has to be the numbers that you want to work with me. But how much extra comes with being the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. That's not from what the cowboys are paying you that you may not get if you go somewhere else. That's in sooners centers workable as they come. If I'm Jerry. Jones is this thing is so I don't want the outside noise. I just want to set my team. It'd be ready to play football in order to do that. You certainly need the quarterback to be just Yvonne Dallas. I am curious am I better off with the couple. Extra first round picks from say Los Angeles chargers and Teddy Bridgewater Water at fifteen million a year with two extra first round picks and extra twenty million a year to play with or Deck Prescott. I think that's a real conversation you you have to have if it gets to the point of franchise tagging and then and and you do to me. Those are questions I would be asking. If you're talking about a defense is a defense that gave up. That was twenty fifth and takeaways takeaways. Those first round picks getting those extra thing and having money interesting question. Many have speculated needed that if Tom Brady does remain in New England. It'll be because of team. Owner Robert Kraft who has said publicly. He wants him not because of bill. Belichick who at times has been rumored not ought to want him this morning. New Report says Belshazzar will make the Brady decision without an edict from craft. Nick was reported. Free Reign here should move on from Tom. Brady why to me. This is totally about price that because they do not have an obvious heir-apparent waiting waiting in the wings and because if they move on from Brady you're talking stick them don't know about that. Andy Dalton. Marcus Mariota maybe. You'll orchestrated trade for Cam Newton which I think would be really interesting. But that's probably more hypothetical than anything else to me price does dictate this but I think the biggest news here is that Robert Robert Kraft is doing the right thing. Robert Kraft without saying it is saying and I believe Tom kearns report. Tom Garner the person we should believe. All I if people reporting diametrically metrically opposed things. I would believe Tom. WHO's on the ground been covering this team for twenty years That Robert Kraft is picking if he's forced to. He's picking Bella check moving moving forward over Brady. If he's forced to what he's not going to do is risk blowing up his relationship with his coach over an extra couple full years of Tom Brady. Nothing Robert Kraft loved Abbas cake and eat it too. Pardon me for the CLICHE. He'd love to be able to keep them both and keep Brady as long as he can play. Keep eligible for another decade gate. But I think Robert Kraft knows if I say to Bill Belichick next year. Tom Brady are starting quarterback. You must make it happen. Bella check might say to me and next next year. I'm not sure head coach because you violated my contract that I get. I haven't seen contract. I guarantee you it has in there in black letter full control roll over football decisions and he would say it voids it so I to me. That's the news here. Is that Robert Kraft knows. I won't Brady back but not at the expense of losing my head coach. If I'm bill belva check. Of course you want to be back there but if I'm Robert Crap I'm going with the guy that has brought us nine so we're bowl appearances and six super bowls of of course whatever bill belichick once he he's GonNa end up getting but to me. This wasn't about Bella checking crafts relationship. This was about getting the leverage back from Tom. Brady just a bit. We've seen with Tom. Brady his over these last couple of days and kind of handing towards free agency the little commercial with Hulu all those different types of things it kind of in my opinion town. Tom was trying to get the leverage on his side. And maybe some fan support as well in Robert Kraft came early on a couple of weeks ago and said we'll pay Tom. Whatever we'll just we just want him back? The leverage goes Tom. Brady this move right here by saying you know. Robert Kraft is now allowing Bill Belichick to make the decision that gives us the leverage back to the Patriots. Just a little bit and to me that there's that a simple that's easy to see. I think now you're saying it's a numbers game and that Tom Brady understands it. Bill Belichick understands as well as Robert Kraft and this thirty million to me. That's a great number for Tom. Brady if would you not pay him. Thirty million no no. No no no. I wouldn't let him third. Okay let's say you don't let's say you. Don't you have to deal with bridgewater. He's Water Jaimes Winston Ryan Tannehill may be patchy a lot of different things a lot of different unknowns in New England they haven't had those unknowns in a very long time that that may be a tough pill for bill that swallowed just real quick twelve for a moment when you say Brady you know it's shipped of leverage someone leaked the NFL network that the Patriots are willing to go over thirty million. Tom curren knock that report now. It would appear that did not come from within the Patriots one other their party involved that would be potentially leaking that. It'd be Brady's camp and I do think that's to your point that this coming out is to reassert power of the situation and I don't think people understand the way the patriots would have to thread this needle in order to Brady's going to hit free agency the whole reason to have the the franchise tag removed from being a possibility so we could hit free agency that means you can't talk to teams until March sixteenth. The Patriots can't talk to players of sites that aren't on their team right now until March sixteenth. So what you've got two days to g to negotiate with players to show. Tom Bringing this player that player. But will those players except without knowing Tom's going to be back it's convenient so there is and how much money the Patriots are going to have it. Is I know that according to our friends into Fox bet and the their brains a huge favourite to return to New England. I don't get why all the evidence seems to continually point that he is at least going to explore warriors options and at the Patriots. I don't think we're going into offering him. Gina the biggest deal out there. The last you a quick question I know how you feel then. Do you feel after everything. You've read all the reports and all the rumors that were closer to Tom. Brady returning or not returning that. These two sides are going to pats themselves up or not. I still think the Tom Brady returns New England. I just can't see this team without Out Tom Brady for a lot of different reasons. Because of the strong hold that Bill Belichick has on the team the certainty that he wants at that position and with Tom Brady provides. Also there's a double that shoot. You know what Tom Brady is going to bring. And there's a lot of inconsistency when you talk about all the other quarterbacks out there James Smithson Ryan Tannehill those are that's inconsistent play interceptions Sean Shawn Brady doesn't offer you that. That's why I think he goes back to New England. Tom curren wrote that. Brady's been asking for an extension since twenty seventeen that last summer he would've taken. According to Tom. Coburn the extension drew brees got two years. Fifty million twenty five million per the Patriots would not offer him that he's Super Bowl Championship. campionships coming off his worst year where he finished the season losing to Ryan and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tannehill. They about to offer them thirty. That I don't see happening up somebody will. We're just six days away from the greatest day in olive racing the Daytona five hundred kicking off the twenty twenty NASCAR season. He does Sunday two thirty eastern with the pre race beginning at one PM only on Fox. And we're join live in-studio by pole winner Ricky Stenhouse Junior. Congratulations regrets man. Thanks for having me. So how does it feel hadn't into the race as the Pole al-Satur where yet right now. Well right now just kind of soak it in yesterday. The guys at J. T. G. Doria race and built a really fast race car obviously hopes out anytime you go down and you know we all qualify and you have the fastest car in Daytona. It's always a good start to the weekend you just mentioned. Jt dougherty pardon me. You had been with rows fenway your whole career and so first time really with JT. Dorothy you win the pole for the Daytona five hundred. I take us through the change and the validation may be. I know. It's very early validation. who very early? But you know it was a kind of a refreshing off season after being at a company for so long in the same team We won a lot of races and championships there. But then You know it's just nice to get a fresh start and what kind of revitalize kind of reenergized myself to you know. Jump back in the seat and hang out in the shop and meet all the new people but The the all season season goes by really fast in our sport we end you know in November. Pick right backup and and in February but The off season is quick but hanging out with the team. And you you know coming down and you know with a with a new team new sponsors new manufacturers sitting on the pole of the Daytona five hundred is a pretty special teams. You got new sponsors. You have new everything but the one thing you did bring with you. What your your former crew? Chief who Ryan Patty. How big of a key is that to to you in the race and goes Brian's been instrumental in Kinda step in my career up and my level in the Cup series his His intensity is pretty strong and this is one thing one goal that he had come into the off season was. Hey we're going to bring the fastest car in Daytona to the race track and they worked really hard this off season on that but He pushed me to my wins in two thousand seventeen Where we last one Daytona in the coke zero? Four hundred AH The summer race. So now we gotta win the Daytona five hundred coming up on Sunday That would that would be huge to start our season that way. And what would that mean to you to be able able to start the season biggest race with a win coming off the winning the pole. The Pole just talk to him about what that would mean to you. There's a little bit different having our big in the beginning of the Super Bowl. Obviously we still want to win the championship at the last race of the year in Phoenix. But all in all this is the great American race this is the race that You know all of us drivers want to win and you know they can't really take that trophy away from you. Want you win it and so for us it would be you know huge to get our kroger car in Victory Lane come Sunday but it's it's a tough race cars are are hard to drive their their sliding around a lot and You gotTA gotTa be there at the end. It's five hundred your mouse. So I've never raised cars. I did run track though and Ziang thank you well. There's a reason I bring it up. I feel like is this is the but so like an actual race. Like you're on an eight hundred that's like the actual race in that you see where you are in relation to your competition qualifying like when you're in the pits. It's like you're doing a long jump. You Post a score then you gotta watch newer what seventeen to eighteen. We went out eighteen. So you posted time and then here's watching when you're waiting and seeing is someone gonNA top time. Take me through the emotions of when you post and you realize art right now. We are in the figurative pole position and then trying a hold on essentially for dear life when there's nothing else you've already done anything. You're just sitting there watching. Yeah it was nerve wracking but it was. I enjoyed it. It was a really fun. Experience ends because it was like a fast race car if we could go out lay down in Daytona's kind of weird like you know we draw for are are spot for where we go out. It's a random draw to win out. Eighteenth the wind's kind of picked up a little bit towards the qualifying and they were headwind. Headwind down the back straightaway so We posted our lap. I felt like it was a really good lab. Thought the race track with the condition slowdown from the day before and And we actually went faster than what we did the day before in our practice run so I was really confident but then we started to dodge bullets You know our other Chevy Chevy teammates that were lining ended up half a tenth away from us so I was a little nervous. I played most of my career with a chip on my shoulder that it was kind of my way of me. That was my the hunger that drove me and you gotta got let go released from a rouse. Fenway unexpectedly. Does that leave a chip on your shoulder. Make you feel like you have something to prove just a bit. It does for sure and I think that's Kinda you know one of those things that like I said earlier kind of just re-energize myself to like. Hey let's let's put a lot of focus into. Let's make sure I'm doing everything that I can inside the car outside the car at the shop with the team and you know like Brian. I'm Patty over with me. He's kind of got that chip on shorter Mike Kelly that is working on all of our wind tunnel cars. He has mcritchie when we want our xfinity championships We all kind gotTA have that same chip on her shoulder. And it's nice to have those people in your corner with you Transitioning to that new team Everybody's been great in the new organization. Jt Georgia erasing. The atmosphere is what I've been looking for and we're ready to go so nick mentioned he ran track and then. Brian mentioned that you know he played in the NFL. So I I played high school volleyball and in many ways it's just like what would what would a successful year look like for you. These are these are near impossible. Racist Aces to win. What is considered a successful career points? Wise at least for you guys. Yeah for us. We're looking to make it back to the playoffs. We were in the playoffs when in two races in two thousand seventeen eighteen nineteen kinda struggled we had speed in two thousand and nineteen but we just never put it all together weekend and week out consistently But I do feel like The the jump that jd racing is made you know just in qualifying in the speed that we brought in this race car this weekend like you said earlier. It's just the first weekend long season but you know we go to Las Vegas after Daytona and we're putting that same amount of effort into our Las Vegas. I guess car Then we go to Fontana and Phoenix and and I feel like the whole teams kind of you know putting in extra hours working Saturdays and doing whatever it takes to make sure that we have fast. I race cars so that being said we WANNA make the playoffs who WanNa win race and You know kind of off going to Palm Daytona five hundred the first pole-sitter when it in twenty years and you so you're you're basically locked in so that wasn't bad stat. I didn't WanNa hear that. So someone's going to break that so might as well take a look. I heard you off the air though. You're obviously professional car racer. You're all around sports failure you're an old misc- and all right. What do you think a lane? I'm on I'm on the train. Let's go let's go I am laying head coach for almost football. I'm looking forward to the egg bowl with Mike Leach in Mississippi city-state Lane Kevin. I think that's going to be interesting. You know going at it you. You can't talk about Ole Miss Football without talking about ally manning and obviously he's retiring now. The big question is is your hall of Famer. That's that's the number one question for his career. I don't see how you can not put him in the hall of fame. I know he's a five hundred win quarterback but in VP's super bowls. I think you've got to go with that. Sounds uh-huh definitely GONNA be in there so the idea but it's not real quick though before you you also aspen The I don't ever participate in this debate. I think it's overwrought. But some people some people talk Lebron versus Jordan. I'm just curious where you come out on that well. I watched Lebron on a lot more than I watch Jordan and I remember it a lot more so recently asked. Here's all America really wants you. Dr Dr Bass for reason was the last time you got a speeding ticket. It's actually been over a year really not driving yourself and you no the reason why. It's been a while because one year I got pulled over like ten times now. I didn't get ten tickets. I just got pulled over ten times but that Kinda slow me down a little bit. How many speeding tickets do you think? Just because when you talk about above one hundred I think it's a big number that I got an awful lot weaving in and out of traffic. It's a man. When he gets stopped he goes? You know I ran track trash themselves I I got places to be in this Sunday at the Daytona. Five hundred will definitely be watching appreciate your time this morning. Much first things first right after this nice is man I can. I can do this far as five hundred laps. Thank you for listening to the first things first. PODCAST remember. Leave us a review and tell us what you think. 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Full Show (Lakers, 76ers, Clippers, Rockets, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, Andrew Wiggins, Ricky Stenhouse Jr. joins)

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Full Show (Lakers, 76ers, Clippers, Rockets, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, Andrew Wiggins, Ricky Stenhouse Jr. joins)

"The Rwandan good morning and welcome to first things. First I'm Jenna Wolfe. That is nick right. Howard Beck is joining us on the show more nice see? We got a great show on this rainy Monday morning. Here near city but fretting up. Because how about this Brian. Westbrook is here Antoine Walker is going to join us and Tony five hundred pole sitter ricky. Stenhouse junior will stop by but with Howard here we're GonNa Start in the NBA. So let's do just wanted to start with NASCAR. We talk we talk here we go. It turns out that the Lakers will not be signing free agent point guard. Darren Collison that after very public. Squirting memory sat courtside with team owner genie boss last week. The thirty two year old point guard decided to remain retired. And now the Lakers. WHO STAYED PUT AT? The trade deadline. Reportedly turned their attention to recently. Waived Dion waiters nigger the Lakers in trouble trouble after not signing collison. I think in trouble is far too strong. I do think this is a legitimate blow and I I want to say this on on the top. I don't blame collison obviously for deciding. Hey I thought I wanted to be retired. I WANNA stay retired to his prerogative. He seems to be very passionate about his work. As a Jehovah's Joe who witnessed and God bless him for it and I also don't blame rob Pelinka for not being super active at the deadline. I wouldn't have given up Danny Green. Kyle Kuzma for Marcus Morris and some would argue. Willie should've worked around the edges a little bit more. I have no idea what it's like to be rob Pelinka right now. Kobe Bryant was his best friend. He is very close us with the family and dealing with all of that in the context of we have a trade deadline coming up. If there's ever someone that deserves a bit of a pass. It would be Paul Lincoln these couple of weeks six with all that said the Lakers need another ball handler. Darren Collison for me Howard. This offseason. Before I knew he was going to retire. Was One of the top free agent targets once they missed out on why when we were listing. People I said Danny Green Seth Curry Darren Collison. Were the type side. Go after seth goes to Dallas Danny retires or I'm sorry you have Carlson retiring they get Danny Green. If they could have gotten Darren Collison it would have been great. They don't and now when you're to the waiters this portion of the buyouts. That's not a great option for anyone. There's a reason dion. Waiters only played three games for Miami this year. And there's a reason that despite his talent. He's bounced around the League. I I still think they can win the title. They'd still be my pick to win the title but it is going to be all on the shoulders of Lebron. James come the playoffs because because they have no one else they trust handling the bowler initiating the offense which is why we may disagree on this when we do I have my pick. It was the clippers ever since the preseason or even ever since July because with the clippers. Have that the Lakers. Don't is Lou Williams like that's a very big luxury to have is a Lou Williams a guy who can score twenty twenty-five thirty points if you need who can handle the ball off the bench who can anchor a second unit and the Lakers. Don't have that now. The benefit for the Lakers is when you get to the playoffs. You and I both know. Oh you put the ball in the bronze hands. You don't worry much. He's going to play big minutes. He's GonNa he's GonNa take the load as he says. His shoulders are broad for a reason for all kinds of reasons. He'll be fine. They will be fine. I think I don't think Darren Collison is the guy who was going to make or break the Lakers season. But I've always been concerned. Why leaned clippers by a little bit? Nick Agnete by a ton. I always leaned clippers because I thought they have that luxury that the Lakers don't they both got their big too and those both have their benefits. It's having that Lou Williams type type collison wasn't going to be that for the Lakers. But he would have given them another ball handler. Who could defend a little bit? Who could shoot a little better than ron knocked down threes? But they you know they do. We have other guys. They do have Rondo. They do have avery Bradley. Alex Caruso like some guys soak up some minutes with the ball so that it's not in the bronze hands a hundred percent. I think also was going to be the tipping point for the the Lakers one last piece that they need I think yeah I would rather them get. Call us in the Marcus Morris I would like the he's the exact guy that can knock down shots that can run off into can defend a little bit. That the exact thing they need to Howard's point about all falling on Lebron. I think the minutes things important. He's GonNa play forty two minutes. It's a game in the playoffs like that twenty averages last playoff run and keep in mind there are some blowouts in. They're going in each direction where he plays low minutes in close games. He's going to play at least forty two. If not out forty four minutes the question is can you survive those five to seven minutes a night where he where. He's on the bench which in the past Lebron teams have struggled surviving this year. When and the reason why I'm as as high on the Lakers anyone over the clippers is because win the bronze on the court that the best team in basketball they? The that's number. Were the best team in the West. Milwaukee might be stratosphere by themselves at the moment but they are clearly better to me than the clippers. Win Lebron's on the court. The problem is not only been when Lebron goes to the bench. But it's been that Rondo is soaking up those minutes and Rondo right now is a detriment to winning. The other benefit benefit to call us in would have been he would take those Rondo minutes away like the hopefully you would hope he would take those Rondo minutes away. I don't know a frank. Vogel has the stomach to do something that Luke Walton and the stomach to do which is say regime man. It's twenty twenty what you might be a hall of Famer one day. But that's that's based on what you did in the past. Those minutes should be going. Alex Crucial Alex cruises not a great players. Not Perfect player. But it is. We now have two seasons of data that with the Lakers. He's a more effective player than Rondo. That's my concern. Is that when Lebron goes to the bench. Even if just into the first into the third to seven point lead turned turn into a one point lead because the Lakers crater with Rondo. Running the offense right end and the the alternative or the I guess the antidote to that is during those Lebron minutes. You better just pound. Whoever's in front of you better just get a nice big cushion? So that when he is on the bench. You've got a little bit to play with and you did hear from. which is there's little bit concerning from Lebron this week that he knows he has to play better? He doesn't like the way he's ending games finishing games so you kind of who gets the rest. He needs going down the stretch where he's not put in that position where everything does solely fall on Lebron James I think the one seed matters i. I'm the only person in the world anymore that cares at all about the regular season the clippers. You know getting blown out by thirty thirty some points to a terrible timber. Wolves seem that we actually should pay attention to those things. But Lebron for them to keep the one-seat Lebron's going to have to play thirty seven thirty eight minutes. It's a night down the stretch him. Feeling a little worn out near the all-star break man. You can set your watch to Lebron James Teams and Lebron in particular the weeks leading up to the All star break is when people start abandoning ship. It's win win. The team seems to be at. Its low point. I don't think they're low point right now but I think you'll see a better version of the Lakers here in a couple of weeks than you're seeing right now. Six years picked up very much needed win at home last night albeit be it over the lowly Chicago Bulls Joel Embiid at Twenty eight points. While Ben Simmons put up a triple double phileas dominated bad teams all season probably because they're bad teams twenty one and six against teams below five hundred twelve and fifteen against teams above five hundred. All right nick if you had to shoes would you rather build a team around. Joel embiid or Ben Simmons because we are getting to the point where it seems like you are now going to have to choose breezy if you'd have told me when there's the four seconds left in game seven of the Eastern Conference semifinals and the sixers are down to and Jimmy Butler streaming up court seemingly neither force overtime or maybe pull up taking three. Try To win the game right there. That nine months later we'd be talking about breaking up the sixers sixers Butler would be gone that. Jj would be gone that now. We're talking about which who can you keep Benner. Joel said you're crazy. Like this is going to be filling walk walk in the east for the next decade but the way phillies played and the lack of maturity shown by their two stars and the lack of cohesiveness. which with those two guys on the court at the same time makes this legitimate question and to me? The easy answer is I'd rather build around and beat. I'd Rather Trade Simmons. I think that embiid while I don't think he has reached his full. Potential is certainly closer and a guy who has shown the ability if he can stay in shape and if he can get some of the NBA maturity stuff better in check he can be dominant force in a league that is going small. Having the biggest strongest potentially one of the toughest guys in the League can be an enormous benefit when he's as nimble as joyless shown the ability to be. Meanwhile Ben Simmons if I show you video of him and and I don't tell you what year it is. You have no idea what what you're watching whether it's first you've been second year. Ben Simmons This Year Been Simmons. He's the skill set that made him a tremendous rookie. Makes him disappointing at this point in his career to me. There's no way around that would that I do think he is trade value. I do think there'd be teams that want him teams names that don't have a big man clogging the paint that like what he could do so I would if I have to trade him Howard. I'm trading been because I do think he has enormous value and and I'm keeping Joel. I can't disagree. I can't disagree and by the way if anybody thinks. Oh It's premature or why are these people already talking about trying to break these guys up the media. He's trying to let me tell you something. This is the conversation around the entire NBA. This is what other teams are talking about to. That those two do not click well together. The sixers have hit a ceiling and that it's inevitable whether it's this summer or by next year's trade deadline whatever it's going to be. The clock is ticking. On Simmons Simmons and embiid now that's ultimately up to the sixers to decide not all of the chatterboxes around the NBA. But that is the buzz around the league and to your point Nick I Eileen and beat. Also it's not just the makeup the fact that he's a seven footer. WHO's got some guard skills? It could do damage inside and out and the power and the Nimble nece all of that. It's that Joel embiid cares. I liked seeing tears from Joel. EMBIID's is after they were eliminated by the raptors. I liked the passion. That was behind that now. If you want to say. Yeah but he didn't follow up he didn't come back in the best shape or he didn't find I get that he cares. I look at Ben Simmons and I don't know sometimes James He is so just just kind of emotionless. I don't even know how he just just very stoic out there and that doesn't not necessarily mean you don't care right. Kawhi Leonard showed us you can be stoic and still have a great passion burning inside Qu is also shown us how much he cares by every single year of his career. Yes coming back with the new skill or an improve still or police players to us. You can if you're not going to tell us you care through your emotions you have to show Louis Shukeir through the evolution of your game so to speak and we just haven't made. I was genuine. Remember a couple years ago. I was as big of a Ben. Simmons was because I said we focus on the one thing he does poorly instead of all the other things he does great and the argument was of course. He'll get better at that one thing but he hasn't and he had maybe maybe he's tried to get better in practice. But in the Games there's been no evidence whatsoever that he has any willingness. Shoot the basketball and that at this point in twenty twenty. You can't win that way. The thing that concerns me the most nick was earlier. I think it was in this series. Museum the preseason where when the subject came up of his refusal to shoot in his reticence to shoot it was basically. I'm an all star like that was an actual exchange that happened. You can't think that way you know we're all talking about for the last few weeks all the lessons. We learned from Kobe Bryant in his career. What did Kobe do consistently throughout his career? He worked on his game. He strove to get better and he constantly added things. Nobody can come into this league. No matter how talented you are and so you know what I'm GonNa all star laurels. It just doesn't work that way not in the NBA. And we're not in a place in time right now where you're GonNa have a head coach that's going to force for C.. To do certain things that you don't want to do in the question with this team now becomes what's more likely to happen. Ben Simmons Learns How to shoot or Joel embiid gets in shape that kind of shape. You want to see him play. I and I think you guys are both saying Joel. EMBIID is the one that's most likely Howard. I've seen Joylin shape and and I think one of the things where I try to be fair with you. All I'm standing might have some eating habit habit issues. Whatever that is because he's at injury issues and because he's so big he can't do the regular conditioning guys need to do? He's going to have to at times. Play his way into shape. Because key can't do all of the off season things cardiovascular wise that you would need to do Rian tiptop shape because he does have to be careful on his lower our body in the lower extremities and him rot running five miles for example takes more wear and tear than just about any other player in the league. Other than other other than Marjanovic. You know what I mean running five miles because of how big is and so I do. I don't want to give them say I give him a pass but I understand it. The Simmons stuff's inexcusable fan hand. And the attitude stuff that you you. You're much closer league circles than I am but I still hear certain things I mean. People do wonder is Ben Simmons more infatuated with being a star. Then he is with being a star player like that is a real. I don't know been so I can't speak into it. I know that is whether it's true or not. A question people around the League have about it and it's not an unusual and I don't know when Ben Simmons well enough to know either whether that's the case but it is the case that happens with NBA players right. We know that this happens. There are some guys who are more about the lifestyle and the limelight and the pay day than they are about a passion passion for winning and again this goes back to my just distance observation of these two guys embiid has a passion and carrying there that you can see that's evident. His emotions are on his sleeve. Ben Simmons does not it makes me wonder one quick follow point because Ben Simmons might be on the trade block this summer. This was one of the reasons that I thought that Golden Gordon State trade was such an abomination that if the warriors and the number one pick they have the worst record. I know you're far from it. I wonder what Phillies says to de Ngelo Russell Russell in the number one pick four cents can do better. You think who can do but I think the sixers can do better. If Simmons is on the block they are going to be able to do better than even that. Okay Fair enough because I think been actually would fit great in Golden State. Because he doesn't need to shoot because you have all the shooting the world around you and I think will be much better fit next to Joel even though Ben might be a better player than de Ngelo Russell. It's just the been simmons comes available. I think there's going to be a lot of people feel like we can fix what ails them or we. We don't want won't even ask him to change. Because we don't have Joel embiid clawing in pain. Look we've done the sixers so many times. Every time we finish could easily say the same sentence you can count on one hand the amount of times times. Ben Simmons is shot a three point. What is it? Three or four has more threes than he does talks football now onto the Dallas cowboys among the juicier rumors swirling how about this one Dak Prescott being replaced by like Tom Brady. It picked up some traction this weekend but Stephen Jones quickly refuted it saying. His currently unsigned quarterback. Dak Prescott is quote. The Guy I can help us win championships nick. What should the cowboys do with? Dak Prescott are so I find this really fascinating. This conversation and I thought the Brady rumor was great. Because it's something. We joked about months ago brady replacing A-. I feel like if Tom Brady. Signed with the Dallas Cowboys. We'd renamed the show first things. I adult Caisley abroad and it would just be wall to radio cowboys. Me and my job got so easy but I don't think it's likely but you understand how they could thread the needle if backward a move on so it's the cowboys do assuming that has not drastically changed. His contract demands end appear to have been for the last year which is top of the market money. I think their only option is to franchise tag in but that does bring in to play another option. which is if you franchise tag him? I would be very interesting. I'm Dallas talking around the league. What is the trade value of Dak Prescott? I saw Paul Frank Clark. Who's a good player? He's he's not one of the best pass rushers and football. He's a good player. And he made some great plays for my chiefs. This postseason he got franchise tag act. He went for a one and two of first and a second round pick for Frank. Clark traded under the Franchise Tag d Ford who was traded under the franchise. Tag Win for for a second round. Pick Laremy Tunsil. Just went. Not under the franchise tag but he just went for two number ones and something bringing up is what could the cowboys. Alba's get for Dak Prescott. If they were to believe we can sign Tom Brady short-term we can sign. Tom Brady giving the offensive line. He wants the running game he wants. It's a number one receiver. We'll have the money because figure the quarterback out. Yeah well yeah figure the quarterback post Brady out later could the cowboys get two ones uh-huh and something for Dak Prescott with the Los Angeles chargers who are trying to sell tickets. Who Don't have a quarterback who have the six pick of the draft? Would they give you the number six overall. Pick Nick and their first rounder next year. And maybe something else for the opportunity stabilize their quarterback position and say screw. It will pay him all the money he wants. I I would've. I were Dallas. I wouldn't want to know because I would certainly rather have a whole bunch of draft picks and a whole bunch of cap space then pay Dak thirty seven million dollars a year now. DAX contract demands have dropped significantly changes things franchise tag jack. I'm asking around the League as quietly as I can. What is his value to you? What would you give me for him? There's a reason. Why teams normally don't allow their quarterback to get in this position now not just because the money? But because he's the face of your franchise he's a guy who's going to hold things together. He's got is one deliver the message to the team to the to the public. Everything else in the cowboys. How was it? They think that guy there's going to bring them championships in the future. They should have never allowed this to happen. DOC is coming off his best season as a pro forty forty nine hundred yards passing touchdowns or interceptions. He has been impressive. You know when you talk about the guys you compare them to Jared Goff as Carson Wentz. Both of those guys got paid with two years years left on their contract. And I had to believe that this contract for the cowboys doesn't necessarily come down to average per year. It's not thirty five million or thirty six million alien per year. I don't think it comes down to that. I think it comes down to guaranteed money. The little small fine print the incentives those types of things once. They figure that out this is done to me this. This is a no brainer. You don't want forty three year old Tom. Brady you WANNA Young Dak Prescott in the Lao this team to build with him but still two seasons ago. We all sat here. And we're like well Dak Prescott. We'll be signed before Saturday. It'll be signed before the first game of the season. No problem he went from being the franchise their guy th the Rock and the foundation of the Dallas Cowboys. And now here we are talking about. Possibly I know the juniors rumors but maybe deck leaves the cowboys. I mean this was Jerry Jones's guy. How did we get to this? Oh I think at some point the you know a negotiation and you see this happen in the media business. Sometimes you see this happen in the business world. Sometimes which is two parties that ostensibly need each other and want to be together just have very very different opinions on the value and it causes a separation you Either are I think back to Howard stern when he left to go to satellite radio man dresser radio didn't want to lose him he just thought thought. Hey I'm worth what eighty million a hundred million a year and they said we need you. We love you. We want you but we can't pay you that and he found someone who could it wasn't isn't because they hated each other at least maybe disturned history slightly wrong general story. I understand which is sometimes people. Just I am worth Acts and the person trying to pay said man you're worth x minus ten and you can't meet in the middle that that's the only reason the cowboys and Dak haven't yup come to an agreement. which but you would be comfortable paying? Dak maybe not highest paying the League but make him one of the four five highest paid quarterbacks in football and I think it comes down to guarantees and teases so I put them at thirty five between thirty five and forty million a year right and obviously he's not going to get forty. That's Patrick Mahomes. Money's not going to get forty but let's say it's thirty five. Let's say that's the number and you get him is guarantees Carson Wentz got six and a half million at signing a one hundred seven guarantee jer. Golf fifty fifty five fifty six million you know so at signing and then one hundred and ten guaranteed so if your deck. You're saying I want to have that ability to be in that race million guaranteed. It has to be the numbers that you want to work with me about. How much extra comes with being the Dallas Cowboys quarterback? That's not from what the cowboys are paying you that you may not get if you go somewhere else. Consider as marketable as they come. If I'm Jerry Jones is this thing is so I don't want to outside noise. I just want to set my team. It'd be ready to play football in order to do that. You certainly need a quarterback to to be I just do if I'm Dallas. I am curious. Am I better off with a couple. Extra first round picks. Let's say Los Angeles chargers and Teddy Eddie Bridgewater at fifteen million a year with two extra first round picks and an extra twenty million a year to play with or Dak Prescott. I think that's a real conversation station. You have to have if it gets the point of franchise tagging him and then and and you do I to me. Those are questions I would be asking. If you're talking about a defense is a defense that gave up that was twenty takeaways. Those first round picks getting those extra thing and adding more money that the main interesting question. Many have speculated speculated that if Tom Brady does remain in New England. It'll be because of team. Owner Robert Kraft has said publicly. He wants him not because of bill. Belichick who at times has been rumored not to want him this morning. A new report says Belshazzar will make the Brady decision without an edict from craft. Nick with reported free rain here should move on from Tom. Brady to me. This is totally about price that because they do not have an obvious. Error are apparent waiting in the wings. And because if they move on from Brady you're talking stick them don't know about that. Andy Dalton Marcus Mariota. Maybe you'll work straight at trade for Cam Newton which I think would be really interesting but that's probably more hypothetical than anything else to me price does dictate this but I think the biggest news here is that Robert Kraft is doing the right thing. Robert Kraft without saying it is saying and I believe Tom kearns report. Tom Burns the person we should believe. All I if people reporting reporting diametrically opposed things. I would believe Tom who's on the ground. Been Covering this team for twenty years. That Robert Kraft is picking if he's forced to. He's picking embellish moving forward over Brady if he's forced to what he's not going to do is risk blowing up his relationship with his coach over an extra extra couple years of Tom Brady. Rapper loved Abbas cake and eat it too. Pardon me for the CLICHE. You'd love to be able to keep them both and keep Brady as long as he can. Play key Bella check for another decade but I think Robert Kraft knows if I say to Bill Belichick next year Tom. Brady's are starting quarterback. You must make it happen. Bella check might say to me and next year. I'm not sure head coach because you violated my contract that I I haven't seen checks contracts. I guarantee you it has in there in black letter full control over football decisions and he would say it. Voids it so I to me. That's the news here. Is that Robert Kraft knows. I won't Brady back but not at the expense offense of losing my head coach. If if I'm bill belva check. Of course you want to be back there but if I'm Robert Crap I'm going with the guy that has brought us nine Super Bowl appearances and six super both of course whatever bill bill check once he he's GonNA end up getting but to me. This wasn't about Bella checking crafts relationship. This was about getting the leverage back from Tom. Brady just a bit. We've we've seen what Tom Brady said. Over these last couple of days and kind of heading towards free agency the little commercial with who all those different types of things it kind of in my opinion opinion town was trying to get the leverage on his side. And maybe some fan support as well in Robert Kraft came out early on a couple of weeks ago and said we'll pay Tom. Whatever we'll just we just want him back? The leverage goes goes to. Tom Brady this move right here by saying you know. Robert Kraft is now allowing bill ballot. Check to make the decision that gives the leverage back to the Patriots. Just a little bit and to me that there's this simple that's easy to see. I think now you're saying it's a numbers game and that Tom Brady understands it. Bill Belichick understand as well as Robert Kraft and this thirty million to me. That's a great number for Tom. Brady why would you not pay him. Thirty million oh no no no no no. I wouldn't third okay. Let's let's say you don't. Let's say you don't have to deal with with bridgewater. Jameis Winston Ryan Tannehill may be patchy a lot of different things a lot of different unknowns in New England. They haven't had those unknowns in a very long time time. That may be a tough pill for bill to swallow just real quick twelve for a moment. Jenna when you say Brady you know it's a shift of leverage someone leaked picked to the NFL network that the Patriots are willing to go over thirty million. Tom curren knocked that report. Now it would appear that Lee did not come from within the Patriots. There's one other party involved that would be potentially leaking that. Brady's camp and I do think that's to your point that this coming out is to reassert power of the situation relation and I don't think people understand the way the patriots would have to thread this needle in order. Brady's going to hit free agency. The whole reason reason to have the franchise tag removed from being a possibility so we could hit free agency. That means you can't talk to teams until March sixteenth. The Patriots can't talk to players outside. That aren't on their team right now. Until March sixteenth. So what you've got two days to to negotiate with players to show Tom. We're bringing in this player that player but would those players except without knowing if Tom's going to be back it's convenient so there is and how much money the Patriots are GonNa have there. It is I know that according and to our friends at Fox bet and their brains a huge favourite to return to New England. I don't get why all the evidence seems to continually point that he is at least going into explore his options and the Patriots. I don't think we're going into offering him. Gina the biggest deal out there question. I know how you feel. Then do you feel after everything when you've read all the reports and all the rumors that were closer to Tom Brady returning or not returning that. These two sides are gonNA patch themselves up or not still think that Tom Brady returned to New England. I just can't see there's team without Tom Brady for a lot of different reasons. Because of the stronghold of Bill Belichick has on the team the certainty that he wants at that position with Tom Brady provides. Also there's a double double that you know. You know what Tom Brady is gonNA bring. And there's a lot of inconsistency when you talk about all the other quarterbacks out there Jackson Ryan Tannehill those are that's inconsistent play interceptions -ception. Sean Brady doesn't offer you that. That's why I think he goes back to knowing. Tom curren wrote that. Brady's been asked him for an extensions 2017 that last summer he would've taken according to Tom. Coburn extension drew brees got two years. Fifty million twenty five million per the Patriots would not offer him that he's Super The bowl championship coming off his worst year where he finished the season. Losing to Ryan and Ryan Fitzpatrick Tannehill. They about all from thirty that I don't see how somebody will. We are just six days away from the Greatest Day Day in olive racing the Daytona five hundred kicking off the two thousand twenty NASCAR season just Sunday two thirty eastern with the pre-race beginning at one pm only on Fox somewhere now joined live. in-studio by winner Ricky Stenhouse Junior. Congratulations regrets MANTECA. Thanks for having me on. So how does it feel heading into the race. Says the pole sitter where yet right now well right now just kind of soak it in yesterday. the guys at J. Doria race and built a really fast racecar obviously asli and hope so anytime you go down and you know we all qualify and you have the fastest car in Daytona. It's always a good start to the weekend. You just mentioned J.J. JT JT dougherty. Pardon me you've been with Ralph Fenway your whole career and so first time really with JT. Dorothy you win the pole for the Daytona. Five hundred hundred. I do take us through the change and the validation may be. I know. It's very early validation very early but you know it was a kind of a refreshing off season after for being at a company for so long in the same team We won a lottery says in championships there but then You know it's just nice to get a fresh start kind of revitalize kind of reenergized myself to you know. Jump back in the seat and hang out in the shop and meet all the new people but the the all season goes by really fast in our sport we end you know in November. Pick right back up and and in February but The off season is quick but hanging out with the team and and coming down and with a with a new team new sponsors new manufacturers and sitting on the pole of the Daytona five hundred is pretty special teams got new sponsors. You have new everything but the one thing you did bring with you. What your your former crew? Chief who Ryan Patty. How big of a key is that to you and the stars racing go? Brian's has been instrumental in I feel like Kinda step in my career up and my level in the Cup series his His intensity is pretty strong and This is one thing one goal that he had coming into the off season was. Hey we're going to bring the fastest car in Daytona to the race track and they worked really hard this off-season on that but He pushed me to my wins in two thousand seventeen where we last one at Daytona. In the coke zero four hundred entered the summer race. So now we gotta win the Daytona five hundred coming up on Sunday That would that would be huge to start our season that way. And what would that mean to you to be able to start the season biggest race with a win coming off the winning the pole. The Pole just talked to him about what that would mean to you or sports a little bit different having our biggest in the beginning of the Super Bowl. Obviously we still want to win the championship last race of the year in Phoenix. But all in all this is the great American race. This is the race that all of us drivers WANNA win. And you know they can't really take that trophy away from me once you win it and so for us it would be you know huge to get our kroger car in victory lane come Sunday but it's it's a tough race. Cars are hard to drive their their sliding around a lot and You got to got to be there at the. It's five hundred miles so I've never race cars. I did run track though and same thing to bring up. I feel like I is contract. But so like an actual race like you're on a hundred that's like the actual race and that you see where you are relative relation to your competition qualifying like when you're in the pits like you're doing a long jump you post a score. Then you gotTa Watch you were seventeenth eighteenth so you posted time and then here's there's watching and you're waiting and seeing. Is someone going to top my time. Take me through the emotions of when you post and you realize art right now. We are in the figurative pole position and and then trying to hold on essentially for dear life. When there's nothing else you've already done anything sitting there watching? Yeah it was nerve wracking but it was. I enjoyed it. It was a really fun Experience because it was like a new fast race car if we could you know go out lay down in Daytona's kind of weird like you know we draw offer our spot for where we go out. It's a random draw. went out eighteen. The wind's kind of picked up a little bit towards the end of qualifying. And they were headwind down the back straightaway so We posted our lap. I felt like it was a really good lab assault the race track with the conditions slowed down from the day before. NFL and we actually went faster than what we did the day before in our practice run so I was really confident but then we started dodge a few bullets with You know our other Chevy teammates that were lining ended up half a tenth away from US so I was a little nervous. I played most of my career with a chip on my shoulder. That was kind of my way of success. That was my the hunger that drove me. And you gotTa got let go released from a rousted way Unexpectedly does that leave. A I chip on your shoulder make you feel like you have something to prove just a bit. It does for sure and I think that's kind of one of those things that like. I said earlier kind of just re-energize myself to like. Hey Hey let's Let's put a lot of focus into. Let's make sure I'm doing everything that I can inside the car outside the car at the shop with the team and you know like broke broke. Brian Pattie over with me. He's Kinda got that chip on his shoulder. Mike Kelly that is working on all of our wind tunnel cars as crew chief when we went our xfinity championships We all kind of have that same chip on her shoulder. And it's nice to have those people in your corner with you Transitioning to that new team. Everybody's been great in the new organization. Jt Not G. Dorothy racing. Just the atmosphere is is what I've been looking for and we're ready to go so nick mentioned. He ran track and then Brian mentioned that you know he plays in the NFL. So I played high school volleyball and in many ways. It's just like I'm just GONNA. What would what would a successful year look like for you? These are these are near impossible possible racist to win what is considered a successful career points. Wise at least three guys. Yeah for us. We're looking to make it back to the playoffs. We were in the play. Offs When `anti-racism two thousand seventeen eighteen nineteen kind of struggled we had speed in two thousand and nineteen but would just never put it all together weekend and week out consistently gently but I do feel like You know the the jump that. Jd Racing is made You know just in qualifying and the speed that we brought in this race racecar this weekend like you said earlier. It's just the first weekend long season. But you know we go to Las Vegas after Daytona and we're putting that same amount of effort into our or Las Vegas car Then we go to Tanna and Phoenix and and I feel like the whole teams. You know putting in extra hours working Saturdays in doing whatever it takes to make sure we have fast race cars so that being said A. We WanNa make the playoffs. Who Want to win race and You know kind of off going pole to pole Daytona five hundred the first pole sitter when it in twenty years so you're you're basically locked in so I didn't WanNa hear that someone's going to break that so might as well liked. I like that. I heard I heard you off the though you obviously freshman car racer all around sports failure. You're in Minsk and all right. What do you think lane? I'm I'm on it. I'm on the train let's go let's go I I'm laying to say head coach. I'm looking forward to the egg bowl with Mike Leach and Mississippi State Lane Kevin. I think that's going to be interesting. Do going at it. Well you you can't talk about Ole Miss Football without talk about manning and obviously the re retirement now. The big question is is your hall of Famer. That's that's the number one question for his career. I don't see how you can not put him in the hall of fame. I know he's a five hundred win quarterback but in VP's super bowls. I think you've got to go with it. That sounds really forced. Definitely GonNa be in there so but you know it's not real quick though before you you it also. I don't ever participate in this debate. I think it's overwrought some people. Some people talk Lebron versus Jordan. I'm just curious where you come out on that well I watched lodged Lebron a lot more than I watch Jordan and I remember it a lot more so recently yes all America really it. Wasn't you drive fast. Where reason was the last time you got a speeding ticket? It's actually been over a year really not driving yourself and you. You know the reason why. It's been a while because One year I got pulled over like ten times so I didn't get ten tickets just got pulled over ten times But that Kinda on a slow me down a little bit. How many speeding tickets do you think? Just because when you talk about above one hundred I think it's a big number that I got an awful lot. We've been in and out of traffic. It's a man. When he gets stopped he goes? I ran track in season trap. Don't give themselves I. I got places is to be locked this Sunday at the Daytona. Five hundred will definitely be watching. Appreciate your time this morning. Much more I think right after. This rickie is nice is man I can. I can do this job. Five hundred bucks easy. We're back here with Howard Beck so on Friday. Our Guy Nick right here had quite hot. Take on the war Andrew Godless during the take aac spilled over onto social media. And everybody talking this weekend. So mad at Wigan score twenty four though Nick and his Warriors Nee Barnes violence over my Andrew. Wiggins lost to the Lakers here is wiggins after the game. When you're losing you know there's GonNa be a little dark shadow over you But I'm here now. You know. This is a winning culture. You know winning team So hopefully people can take a different view and watch us more nick. What do you think you expect against? Actually okay you're laughing money talk throughout the Winnie. How it's different now that you're winning you after a loss? But it's fine he played. Well the blade you play very well unlike you expect him to help clay and staff get the warriors. Back active contention dominance relevant. No and listen Howard you can you can tell me I'm wrong. But here's the thing. Nobody thought Andrew Wiggins it was good ninety six hours ago nobody but then the warriors trade for him and it's as if he gets a magic very sprinkled on his head he's going to be a different for employer. We we know who Andrew Wiggins is and this idea of all well. It's he's held up against the fact he's number one overall pick and so he's judged unfairly or lease hell of against contracts whose judged unfairly Andrew Wiggins as the twentieth pick on a mid level contract does not contribute to winning his people's People can say oh well now he's not going to be asked to be the number one option. Oh she's going to be asked to be the third option like in two thousand eighteen in Minnesota on a a good team that made the playoffs that according to basketball reference was minus ten per one hundred possessions with him on the court we that year he had he was eighth on the team. NPR last year was eleventh on his bad team in pe or he we we know guys like this across the league that profile out. Oh Wow he's going to be an awesome defender. Well you gotta try and he. He hasn't shown effort on that end. Well he can be. He's going to develop into a three point shooter. Well it's been six years these thirty three percent so may be the light bulbs going to turn on. I just I thought there was a few things. Howard most basketball? People were aligned on one. Is that Andrew. Andrew Wiggins does not contribute to winning. But now he's on the warriors so magically he will I I don't understand it so no I don't think he's going to help step in clay get back back to an NBA final. So the first point I would make your nick as a an MBA. I don't know if I'm an MBA expert but it covered the league for a long time. You want my MBA expertise. Here's my advice to you. Do not mess with Matt. Barnes starts messing. That Matt Burns mess with me. You don't miss back okay. Fair to let it go second would be this. I've seen long enough in this league. Where a guy can be looked like buster washout in on one team? That is better somewhere else. It's not magic fairy dust that the worst I can sprinkle on him although they may have some of that too. I do think that a player no matter what their talent level and especially if there was somebody who had high expectations and high talent high upside aside coming into the league and didn't quite work out because when you get drafted high your franchise savior and got everything on you when they go somewhere else and you just have to play a role it's different. It's it's not the same as being with a Jimmy Butler who was just imported yesterday. and Karl Anthony towns who still growing into who he supposed to be. This is joining the team that would define straight finals won three championships. That has the best shooting back court in the history of the game. That has a third store in draymond green wherever he may be in his physical makeup by the time. But let's see what Andrew Wiggins is next to a fully healthy recharged and slightly retooled warriors line-up next season. I'm not saying that it changes everything about Andrew. Wiggins is a resume up to this point and I don't think the whole league has all of a sudden decided he's okay and that we should forget about Minnesota. I do think that with no pressure and no no need to carry. Anything will see a different version of him. Come next. Here's the other problem. People say they're only going to ask him to be Harrison. Barnes okay so let's let's actually remember number what. This warriors team was pre K. D. when it had Harrison Barnes. They ll almost lost. Okay see they did lose to Cleveland and the year before Cleveland took them mm six from the second best players. Matthew Della Vedova and that was when Steph was unanimous. MVP level Steph. Not Thirty two year old Steph. who were about to see when Draymond was defensive player? You're of the year all everything as opposed to seven seven and seven on horrific shooting as he is now and listen dream on. I believe leaves a hall of Famer. Draymond should have three defensive player of the year awards. I've none mercer for what he's accomplished. He's in a different phase of his career. The only guy who I think we should expect to beat the same lovely was during that run. Is Clay still coming off and coming. We'll see when he's coming off the needs a great point and that team was barely merrily. Good enough to win one title now the next year. They look like the greatest team I've ever seen until the playoffs started when the thunder Adam and the cavs actually beat them. And here's the problem. Here's a barnes better than Andrew Wiggins just flatly. He's here's Barnes Great. He's better than Andrew Wiggins. This is not. I'm not trying to kill the guy but you. You said it was a hot take. I thought everyone agreed on this. And and I do believe that if there are five teams basketball that if they traded for Wiggins would be mocked the warriors do it and they're genius if the Sacramento Kings and traded for Andrew Wiggins we would be crushing them killing them for. He's right. Yes but if Andrew Wiggins were acquired by the Miami Heat the San Antonio Spurs there is a difference. The good franchises the stable ones with great strong cultures. You give them the benefit of the doubt when they get a guy who's got a little bit of the blossom off and so Andrew Wiggins to the warriors should be treated differently than if the kings or the Knicks or one of the franchises. That always gets it wrong. Had acquired wired this one of the reasons. The Smart Franchises get the benefit of the doubt. Is the smart franchises. Almost never trade for Max contract player. Who has never contributed to winning? I Trust Bob. Myers Steve Kerr though okay. I don't this would be an all time reclamation project and the other reason I take issue with this strayed is I think the warriors just looked at it from the wrong angle. They obviously according to the value traded away the better player for the inferior player. That's why they got the draft pick attached to it right no matter what people think Dangelo Russell. Whether it's value is that of an all star or not. It's the timber wolves who had to attach the pitch pick the warriors right. So that means that they they view Russell's more valuable than wiggins. I think that's the opposite type of trade. The warriors should be making. I think they should have waited. He didn't do this off season. Take their asset deangelis. Even if it's not a blue chip asset paired with whatever draft pick they have and try to get an impact player. Try to get someone that is a reclamation project. Try to get someone who actually can help them next season because they are capped out. This is going to be their team there at one hundred. Twenty eight million for Steph Clay Wiggins and Draymond. This is going to be their squad. They're only move was traded Diangelo in the pick and instead they traded Diangelo for a worst player on the same contract to get another pick. I don't understand. I mean look. Admittedly I did not think they would trade him at the trade deadline. I thought they would wait to see what's available at the draft or what's available on July first you're talking about the warriors warriors correct. Yes de Ngelo Russell. His market value is not higher than wiggins. Sure sure and you're right to point to bring out the pick and that was why they had to send the Minnesota Edison the pick if they had waited though. How much better could the worries of done? We will never know Oh. I don't know that they were going to get any spectacular offers because de Ngelo Russell is also viewed with a little bit of a Jaded Lens around leisure jaded as wiggins but still some some suspicion. I am curious because I didn't watch the first game without wiggins tim roles who hadn't won in a month. What did they all? They do out the clippers. Clippers seals playing playing quiet to you. Blew him up a shock. You don't think you're GONNA stay hot. Take no one agreed. Moving went onto the Patriots now report from Tom. Currents column on NBC. Sports DOT COM. Says that Tom Brady feels like he's been seen as a stopgap for the Patriots. It's just a short term solution until they find something better at the quarterback position. So Nick I guess you have to ask the Patriots disrespected. Tom Brady lose the corner. I've been on for quite some time. And this is why I think Brady is earnestly and honestly weighing. His options is because Tom Curran wrote there. That since twenty seventeen he has been asking them for contract extension and every year they will rework it they will either give them a raise or if you remember a couple couple years ago they wouldn't even give them a raise. These gave incentives none of which he had happened. Actually reach that year so we didn't get it last year. We want an extension. Tom Burns says he would have taken the drew brees. He's expansion. Two years fifty million twenty five million a year which is an absolute put you outside of the top twelve. As far as highest paid quarterbacks absolute bargain. WHO's coming coming on his sixth super by the way he's one year removed from league? MVP and patriots that we're good. He's the most accomplished football player ever somewhat argue the greatest football player ever. No one would argue against that is the greatest quarterback ever and he has a goal and the goal is to play Tilles forty five and the goal is also plays whole career career for the Patriots and they have not given him a contract that allows them to even get within spitting distance of the goal. So you defined disrespect however you want. I do not think they have treated him the way. You would expect most franchises to treat the greatest players in the history of their respective sports. I will say I somewhat similar. Tell the Bulls at the entreated Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan retired probably the second time earlier than he intended to and we know that he came came back with the Washington Wizards and I ain't a lot of people thought the Bulls didn't pay Michael Jordan. Do respect he deserves. I wonder if we're looking at a similar end for Tom Brady where he has to finish his his career with a different team because his current team doesn't want to commit to him and the pieces around him long term. The question for Tom Brady and the Patriots is Ken. He carried the football team anymore. Can you exist and win. Football Games without a lot of pieces around. You think we found out this year that it's going to be hard for them to compete at a high level without the pieces around him and so is he a stopgap pretty pretty much. I mean they're trying to figure out WHO's GonNa be the next guy and they've been trying to figure that out for a couple years obviously after they got rid of Jimmy G. and so if I'm Tom Brady I understand that in towards end up everyone's career you just Mitchell Michael Jordan one of the greatest if not the greatest player of all time. Tom Brady certainly that in football and he had to do something else. He had to go to the Washington Wizards because at some point team. Say and Tom Brady. Should understand this more than anyone because they do this. In New England all the time time but at some point you say you know what you're worth here as far as value which you bring on the floor on the field is not going to be equal to that. We're going to have to pay you to keep you here and I think they're at the point right now that you're saying if thirty million isn't a number they're not even willing to give twenty five million at that point and Thompson willing to accept that then it's time for him to move on. I I if I'm Tom Brady. That's my that's my my two options. Either stay in Sept Twenty five million or move on and if you don't want to twenty five million then you now you have to go find a new place blaze new place to do it and that's hard to do when you're forty three years of course as a stopgap in no disrespect to Tom Brady. He's not the long term solution. It may not even be a two year solution. He he would be maybe one year to avoid all this mess. This like muddiness that we're sort of currently in right now which all have been avoided had the patriots a stopgap and just extended him for two years or whatever and paid enough next to nothing for the right. The issue is and by the way I I do not think Brady brings the value on the field requisite to Amanda thirty million dollar salary not anymore I think once upon a time obviously he brought the value requisite demand and a fifty million dollar salary and he played for discounts for large portion of the last decade but that was his choice. He didn't have to do that and I think he expected them to make it right on the back end and they are not doing that but I do. Think there's an element of people assuming that will have the patriots just equal. Whatever ever his best you know financial offer from another team is he'll stay there but what if another team is willing to give him multiple years? What if the Patriots do come up to twenty eighty five twenty seven twenty eight million whatever it is but someone else is willing to give him two years maybe someone would even give him three with a partial guarantee in the final? uh-huh year to me. That's going to be the compelling piece for Tom and we have no evidence the Patriots will do that. They wouldn't give him the two year extension coming off the season before this one when he was better and they won the super bowl there. I cannot imagine they're going to give them a two year extension now. He's coming off his worst era team giving some three two years in an option. Ah The when I say option would be on the team side of things but yes depend on the team if you start looking at a superstar but you need to sell tickets if you don't have stability the position if you believe what a lot of people will leave not me but that Brady was more victim of circumstances than a victim of his own poor play absolutely. I could see Tom Brady has been in New England for a long time me understands the dynamic. He understands how they do business. It's weird to me that he's played for discount his entire career where you should have been the highest paid quarterback pretty pretty much into his entire career and now at forty-three coming off one of the worst seasons at he's had he now wants to get paid like one of the top tier quarterbacks. That's just not how it works. Not only in the NFL. But certainly not in New England. But I think here's why I think Brady took all these discounts over the last eight years with the belief that we have an agreement here. I will do things to help the team. You will also put me in the best position to win and you will respect what my ultimate goals are and when this off season he came to them said. Listen I according to Tom. Kern I in twenty seventy nine for an extension. You said we got years left on your deal in two thousand. Eighteen is for an extension. You said you've got years left on your deal okay. Well now I don't now I've got one year left on my deal by the way the same situation. Big Ben found himself in. He got a contract extension. We talk all the time that quarterbacks don't go into walk year I'm Tom Brady just six super bowl so obviously I'm going to get an extension and when the team says noted that it makes him reevaluate all of the whole history there have. Have we been working together or have you been taking advantage of me and I feel if I were him. I'd feel taken advantage of and I would feel okay. You guys don't appreciate what I've given you because you guys won't pay it forward with the thing. I want which is a chance to play. Tom forty-five rare that the goat wherever field this but this NFL player sports players has for a long time. This is a business and we love you. We love what you're able to do for us but unless you could bring us championships now we can't pay you for paths with formats. That's what a lot of different players have felt for Brian. That's just the way they did. That's that's how sports work if you can't helpless now moving forward we can't pay. Hey you for what you did. Four years ago now taking a real back here first things first now joined by NBA BA champion. Former all star. Good Morning Nice to see you. I don't have near as we missed you to the DEC- officially full-on in basketball season. We're seeing a lot more good man. There's a lot to talk about so far in the early part of the season Antoine. Let's go viral though. I checkout Kevin Durant practicing over the weekend and looking pretty good as he. We have from that ruptured Achilles him. This season no comeback tissue. But it's good to see him. How easy time coming back into Marcus cousin? The other people with this engine. 'cause because he's leaner lighter. This is extraordinary. Extraordinary to see that it does make you wonder though that if the nets instead of being twenty three and twenty eight if they had play if they were playing better if they were like thirty one and twenty how would you maybe see them. Try to get him back for the postseason. Still probably not. Because there's injury happened with him rushing back from another injury defined what it is great that the people wonder why there's you know ratings dipped in the NBA this year. There's a lot of theories. One of them is Steph. Playing playing Zion missed the first forty five games having Katie back next year and seeing him in with a new team for the first time in a while. We'll be absolutely great to have Qui- oh that you don't no when you're GONNA get on awful see played last night burden me did not play last night. And that's why we're talking about this. Talk about the clippers. They absolutely absolutely crushed the cavs last night by forty one point somehow doing it without Kawhi in the lineup. Yep He didn't play but Lou Williams did drop in twenty five live despite having to manage different injuries and lineups this season. The clippers are still just three games. Back of the Lakers twenty. How wide is the gap between taste teams? Now Clippers and Lakers got closer. I think because I was Moore's brings a a toughness that they didn't have a guy who can score. The basketball is having the great year with the Knicks. And come in now three. Yes or a guy that can actually you know extended floor and they could play small now which is more important than and then he can get through the season and we know Kawais not playing talked about directly not play so now they can rest. I'm even more if they have to rest. Paul George they'll be in the playoffs fresh So they've closed the gap but the difference is in this series of people. Really look at it to me. Lebron had unbelievable. You plant terrific. I love this but I guess the clip was heat needs to Be the Lebron. Get thirty thirty five you know. We saw against Golden State when he when he gets thirty five. Forty points to beat the clippers and the seven game series. He can't be the lapasset hassled. Lebron hoping everybody else make shots and play the game with the triple doubles now. You gotta go get it and not to give Lebron mindset that still even it will it so it's very very instincts who you you said. The Clippers closed the gap a bit. I think that the Lakers team when when the question is how wide the gap on a lot of shows. People talking about the gap between the clippers and Lakers. But it's flip. Despite the fact the Lakers of the metal record all year they have the best player of the two of the two teams Dave the best second second option of the two teams. They have an easier path to the NBA finals. Because they're the ones either right now. Position Have Home Court for despite all that people have been. I'm trying to speak into existence. Lavar ball style. No the clippers. Just must actually be better than what we've seen up to this point and it is. It's very interesting if you've you're you're on. NBA Twitter the reaction. Saturday night. The Lakers got more criticism on Saturday for a narrow win over. Golden state than the clippers did forgetting blown out by a team that hadn't wanted a month in Minnesota and by the way that wasn't game was playing. That wasn't his weekly rest gamy. Amy Actually played and they got beat by. What would they lose by thirty in that game? I'm sorry twenty seven points. Let me give credit. Listen the the clippers are a very good team but they did not address their biggest issue at the deadline. Their biggest issue is the lack of a rim protector. The legs address their biggest issue with the deadline which is another ball all handler. Aside from Lebron the distinction is this in the playoffs. The Lakers can just say Lebron. You gotTA play forty two to forty four minutes and he has shown the ability to to do that. The clippers can't say mantras means to grow three inches. They can't say Zubec- we all of a sudden need you to be a legitimate rim-protector so I don't think the clippers can solve their biggest issue. The Lakers can solve it simply by saying. Hey Lebron greatest player ever we need you in your seventeen eighteen to be that then. He is shown these clippers. I mean every every team he can different teams. He could play differently. But I guess the clippers. ESPN poses will. He has to go to the block he has to post up. He has to be aggressive on offense event. He can't be. The point gotten brown against the clippers. If they WANNA win they need him to be up there and I disagree groot little bits fast ball handling just Lebron. James hasn't given the rondos to avery. Bradley's that those guys are opportunity to really held a basketball he's been real dominant even even more so. I think this year than before in the past where has bought him away. He's giving little to carry and allow me to make plays. He hasn't did that a lot to these guys whether the now using doesn't trust them or just in that mode right now where he feels like. He's trying to do something he has done. This career and league in assists. What does it say about the clippers that despite whatever they've been going through there was some discontent earlier on their injuries? They have to deal with no real chemistry because Paul George started late and doesn't play that much all of that. They're still kind of right. There on the Lakers really really good. No because they've got two of the best players in basketball they've got a good maybe touch over variety but a good coach Lou Williams extraordinary at his job. We have guys that know their roles. Listen the just because I don't think the clippers are the best team in basketball. Just just because I want to trust the evidence we have of the fifty three games fifty two games depending on how many you've played it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good team but I do think they are judged by a different standard than than the team in the same city in the Lakers. The when the Lakers lose we talk about it as if okay. What is wrong along with them when the clippers lose even that lost a Minnesota's horrified LOST THE MINNESOTA. You cannot understand Minnesota at twenty five twenty six threes that that was but everyone told me. Don't the clippers are going to be a dominant defensive team. You just let Minnesota score a buck forty two with Dangelo wasn't even playing yet. And we again okay. Who Cares? We'll see him in the post in the postseason. I got a couple problems. One playing this game. I and you gotta get some rhythm and Kawhi Leonard to me is killing us of not getting the rhythm plan one game sitting down to plan who you are. Lebron James Seventeen Games. He plays every game because he China rhythm yourself in the best possible shape condition to make a deep run the plows. You GotTa play basketball. Kate play sixty five games. The Games and think you're going to be able just to turn it on. Come playoff time is not going to happen like that. Moore's gives them some depth now they want to do that and the reason why the clip was winning. They don't talk about it. Louis Has Herald having career years. I mean Lou Williams been consistent throughout his career but they're playing great basketball Babic assistant when he was on the floor so getting great replay from other players but the two main guys. They been good but they haven't been great then a fan. Vp you know. They're not like no no in the League so they got they gotta improve as far as getting a rhythm ways planned basketball more. Stop The low management if you want to win a title because anything can happen. They're not going to stop the load management rent and and the clippers right now would be potentially facing Houston and round one facing Denver and round two on the road and then any of you get through them facing the clip. The the Lakers in round three. And I understand. There's no travel for that series but at the Lakers clippers play each other. Those are seven home games for for the Lakers. Laker fans are going to buy out that building which is another issue. The Clippers knows nothing. Do about that now. There's going to have to deal with I. Just I feel like there has been there. Is this it's so what's happened. Coup why because of his sensational playoff run last year. which by the way he trailed off in games five and six against the depleted Golden State Warriors but it was insatiable in round two against the sixers? He was excellent around three against the box and he was great in Games. Two three and four against golden in State when Toronto took control of that series but we give him more of a benefit of the doubt for what he's going to do in the postseason thin Lebron James who the last awesome. We saw him in the post season after playing all eighty two games hit two game winners had to dominant game sevens an average thirty four nine and nine in a playoff series. Who who do you trust more the greatest player we've ever seen or second greatest player we've ever seen or coli to me? That's not a question. Not Lebron James Right now you still got to trust him and everybody had a tough couple last couple of weeks in every we're trying to put a great and say all the Lakers are back to back. They're still playing great basketball. Obviously Brian I think. Think comes to the clippers. I said again he just has to change US mentality and become the Lebron James that we saw in the finals against state. And you know his ass to be aggressive they you have to be able to close in the two games. They play against the clippers. They've been tied going in the fourth quarter both times. They've lost both games. They got close better against those teams. I I also wonder if people have you seen Thuan one with the raptors are doing fourteen. I think they've won fourteen approaching the role. Seemed like it's a pretty good team still tronto. They're quite quite not there anymore. Quite is not there anymore. There's assumed time time. Never put a great on it sponsored by Carmax about this last night number two overall pick. John Morand put on a show dropping twenty-seven picking up his first career. TRIPLE DOUBLE TO LEAD MEMPHIS to a one zero six nine thousand nine win over the wizard snick but a great on jobs performance. Last night night the only players as young as him to go twenty five ten and ten or Lebron Luca and I think the other is former Grizzly Schrief Abderrahim. I know there's a third. I think it's an jazz been. He's already one of the best point guards in basketball. I GIVE HIM AN A. I thought he was sensational. I've had so much fun watching him play. And by the way that's GonNa be a first round series. I think Lakers Memphis. I was hoping me Lakers. PELICANS teams Lakers Memphis that make the playoffs Paula. Style to play so I may get at the end but I give them. He's playing believe a plus. He's a rookie obese. Rookie year If you look at that roster not to take anything from them. They're over achieving. The I mean he's doing wanNA terrific. John He lets you know. He's going to be a franchise player for fifteen years on the Memphis. Grizzlies continue to try to add pieces around them because they got a superstar and making and he's going to be all star in his league for ten straight trey years and you'll have a chance to go deep hasn't championship aspirational him. Because unselfishness day plays when they're building sneaky. Good trade picking up. Justice wins loan if wins look and stay healthy not I like triple J.. Jaren Jackson but jaws is super skinny. said it's so fun to watch. All my God watch Memphis America Roy on hit the game winning three point at the Buzzer to help Utah Escape with the wind awesome Houston now one one into since trading away cling Capella for robbery or in other words. Houston now one and two since going all small Tonkin. The rockets make a finals run. I'm going all in with this lineup. No they can't make they can make a run with this team. Small Boss Not GonNa work and with with them because they don't have the right personnel to play small ball. If you look at the team make the place mall while you guys some guys defensively tough-minded wouldn't guard bigger guys. I think besides. Pj took might be the only only gown that team great. Yeah he'll be he'll be really good at it but in small ball you ask James Harden now he has to guard was Westbrook has to guard that you got house. I just don't like and Robertson. I like Rob Culbertson. But he's still not a great defend. He has long arms and he could be a defendant but they don't have the right personnel to play small ball. I I don't think they're great. Three point shooting. We know that make threes but they take a lot of threes and that type of three point shooting and then they'll have those shooters like that if you think about it and you look at the game last night the guy out rebounded by twelve. They're going to get out rebounded probably every night and I just don't think they have the right personnel now. If data made a move at the break and got Andrea dollar. If they'd Jae crowder get you. Add those two guys mixed now. You probably can play small ball you gotta get the right personnel to play this another wish. Hope Dream about before I give my answer hat prior to the trade deadline prior to moving cappella. Did you think they could make a finals run. I thought I did what Cappella yes I did. I believe with this China. Play a different Alabama midseason. He's in Eric Gordon seems like he's not going to be healthy. He's in and out the lineup. They're just not as deep as they were in the past two different type of team I don't like that. They don't value possessions and they've done in the past but no too. Many games hardens Tutu. Thirteen one for seventeen from three point. Land just think you can't do that in the West too many. Hey good teams all right so listen. I don't want to react to this shot. It's not even this game because they are. That was by the way. Excellent Defense on that on that shot it was just a hell of a playboy Bogdonovich like one of the best shops of the NBA season thus far if he misses that shot. The rockets are two and one. Since the trade having beaten the Lakers and the jazz two teams are going to go through in the West with the terrible performance sandwiched in between two the suns with the loss there now one and two obviously since the trade eleven evident. Three though in games without Clint Capella this season. A shot away from being twelve into I. Can they make the finals. Yeah I I still think think they have of all the teams in the West. The second chance beside the Lakers. Because I think you need to add massive variants to beat the Lakers barring some type of injury obviously and the rockets can add it with the three ball but it is a massive risk and to me while I think their chances to make the finals actually ticked up a percent or two with the trade. Because you did. You're going to you. What you saw? that he did Rudy Gobert. Yesterday they made Rudy Gobert essentially unplayable like he look I think about those Phoenix is teams. Saint I mean obviously a my style Myers can play a little five but he was undecided at the opposition those teams they hit roadblocks. Senate telling you. Spurs was a roadblock Fennell seculow colonialist was a roadblock for now you gotTa have a legit big men to be able to play in this game because rebound become such a factor in the possession game comes in play. Well the point that I was going to make is I think think. Because they're gonNA be they're going to be such a unique matchup even in a two week playoff series that maybe they can over achieve and beat a team. They shouldn't but because of this trade there are also to me. They're percentages went up to get bounce in the first round. There percentages went up to have the season fall apart. I Listen Daryl errol. I haven't spoken to Darryl about why he did this. I think there was multifaceted. I think they were concerned about Capellas health. Not just right now for the rest of the season moving forward I think that there was in. Potentially there's been reports pressure to duck the tax again. Even though I that would make a lot of sense to me because the duct the tax last year. And you're clearly all in on this team but I also think one part. That shouldn't be underrated here. Is I do think what this will open up for. Ross is really good. I think Russ is going to play with more spacing thing. Then he's ever played within his career and you're already he were already seeing Ross while Capella was out the injury police some of the best ball that not some of the best ball. He's played with the rockets. And if you have Ross and hardened clicking at the same time you're as dangerous just about any team in the league. The problem with rockets has been hard. was clicking the I two third of of the year Robin clicking the last third and now we're into we need to see them do it at the same time to work. They need to do it at the same time right now. Question you had to you. GotTa they both got to be Clinton at the same time. I think it just comes some of the other things I think they both great players gray scores. I trusted they're going to do their job. But they have to make commitments to defensively. They gotTA had a guard a little bit better. You don't have a block back there. You gotTa keep guys in front of you so they gotta do they got to change their mindset a little bit too when you got. Click Appello back there. You can let blow by it because you got some mighty big challenge at the rim. Now they're going to put their body in front of and take charges. It's a lot of things. A lot of components would small that. I don't know what they're willing to make those commitments. And I don't know if that's the right personnel. Like I think other if you're going to make this big trade it was other guys out there and looks like J.. Crowd has been moving around. He's always been on the trading block Andrea etc.. Do you believe that he could have been the difference make like he was looking for a contract extension when he went to the he thought he was going to and the clippers so those would have been minimum the deal so he was looking for a deal. If you wanted to make a move and play small ball that was. It was a better players out there that could fit in the system and listen my one. Big criticism the clippers. This year has been and lack of defender. Obviously the rockets now have no type of rim defender whatsoever and against the Lakers. Because if you're GonNa make the NBA Finals. Otherwise you're GONNA have to go through the Lakers. Obviously obviously the Lakers can play a better small than you can play by just sliding Anthony Davis in at the five then. They're still big enough to punish you for your lack of size but Davis is so nimble and agile that. He's not going to be punished on the defensive end. The Way Rudy Gobert was rudy. Gobert was drawn away from the basket last night I was seemingly a man without a country and so the Lakers can mute that advantage to agree. Now they're not gonNA play Taylor Dwight much if they're playing the rockets but I don't think they'll need to because they have a guy. Anthony Davis who even though he doesn't like to play center can play center and can take away some of your offensive advantages by playing the legs team. They built for any matchup. They play small. Small big myths is whatever. You want to let us complaints I. It's a very every move Daryl's made in Houston. I've understood the thread through the first one. That was a little bit of a head. Scratcher was the Chris Paul Russell Westbrook trade but you got it. Because they're worried about Chris Paul's Health and Russ's a better player. This is the next one where it's like. I understand the argument for it. I'm not sure it's the move. Given how close there were a couple years ago and that Russ was playing his best ball of the season president but I think he feels like shake the snow globe a little bit to have a real looked at that golden state team back in the day. Stevens accent. Yobo now Matt Barnes a simple. Thank you for listening to the first things first. PODCAST remember. Leave us a review and tell us what you think. Subscribe drive to the podcast on apple podcasts and catch us on F s one Monday through Friday. Six Thirty A._M. Eastern.

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