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"Guys, Willie Geist here with another episode of the Sunday sit down podcast, thanks for clicking. Enlisting along this week. A good one for you. My guest Academy Award winning actress, re Larson free, and I got together here in New York City about forty eight hours before the release of captain marvel she plays captain marvel it's a historic film because it's the marveling universes. First female lead superhero film and big day for Bree as well. You, of course know her from room, the harrowing incredible performance, she gave that earned her the Oscar for best actress a few years ago, and this is something else entirely playing the superhero the lead role in the superhero movie, she underwent a big physical transformation. You'll hear her talk about that. She trained for nine months twice a day pushing GPS up dead lifting doing things like that things that made me tired as hearing about them. She also had to learn to be an air force pilot. Because captain marvel previously was an air force pilot. So brief went up in an F sixteen a very messy ride that she will describe some great detail little week on the stomach tough to when you're doing simulated dogfights, and you're not quite ready for that whole let her tell you the story brigger up in Sacramento, California. She had a sister knew she wanted to be an actress from the time. She was six years old. She told her mom I'm supposed to be an actor. She was accepted into this conservatory in San Francisco the youngest ever to be there was already acting down in LA when she was eight and nine years old and ultimately her family moved to Los Angeles to chase that dream, and it's paying off she had roles in movies like thirteen going on thirty the Showtime series, United States of Tara. But it was two thousand fifteen when her life kind of blew up in her career blew up. She I played Amy Schumer sister in trainwreck, which was massive at the box office. And then as I mentioned won the best actress. Kademi award for her performance in room. So we got together New York City in a bar at the w hotel, and I want to point out this is I think is gonna make you like, Brielle arson even more than you already. Did she came directly from lunch at Beni HANA right around the corner from our interview I have to say she walked in. She smelled like the delicious hibachi grill at Beni Hannah. So we talk about that, first and foremost, did they have the onion volcano. Did. They flip the shrimp up into the hat the full experience. She had for lunch sat down we start there. Then we get into her career her life and a huge weekend with captain marvel for Bree Larson, I hope you enjoyed our conversation right now on the Sunday sit down podcast, thanks for doing this free. Appreciate the first question that was important question. How was Benny HANA? Oh, okay. Did you table service worse full table service? And I was happy to do the volcano beating heart. The flip the shrimp tails into the pasta. Yeah. It was good brightened my day. Really? The lunch pinochle fantastic. I'd never tried the pinochle out of there. I love a pinochle outta this going to be great interview. Great. Well, you've been we were just talking working on this movie for three years and thinking about it and training for it and getting ready and now forty-eight hours from right now as we sit here it will be given out to the world and people get to see it. What does that feel like right now feels good? I mean, definitely feels odd. Don't know where the three years went, especially because really my reservation, and the reason why almost do the movie was because of like this moment right now of doing the press tour and the public nature of it like driving here in like my face is in Times Square like for an introverted person. That's like too much, and and so had to think like, okay three years from now who will be in can I handle that can be ready for it. And I feel like I am or as right as you can't beat for something. That's like, totally surreal and unknown. Yeah. I mean, you three years ago had to decide I want to step off. That ledge and make the leap into this world because it will elevate you and put you into a different stratosphere. What were your considerations as you thought about sort of the pros and the cons of taking on this role of captain marvel? Well, the pros I don't think about like outcomes I can only about process, and the making of something is only thing that I get really because once it's out in the world. I don't really have a say in how it's digested or talked about or where it goes, really. But the process of making it, that's the only thing that I have and that's my favorite part. So the character the the character the film, what marvel wanted to do with it in the story that they wanted to tell all major pros in their the reason for doing it. But my job is really weird. And that the more movies, I make the less of a life potentially. I have and I need to life in order to play the characters. So the idea of that sort of trade off it's a very unique one. I don't think there's many job. That are like that. And so it was one that was really were taking a pause over to go is this going to benefit worker is gonna hurt the work. And like is it going to hurt my heart in and because my favorite thing in the world is just walking around by myself, and the idea that that might not be the case seems weird. I mean, it's still hard for me to see anything different because right now everything's very very normal for me. Like, I still don't have people recognizing me at all. So. No reason why that. Surprised by it though. Yeah. No. I don't know. I think because I'm introverted like I'm good at blending in. And so I don't I don't really have an issue. Told you have an eleven year old daughter nine year old son, both of whom are very excited to see the movie on Friday, how much did you think about that? And the historic nature of this role as you took it. I didn't think about it feel like it's helpful to think about puts an unnecessary sort of pressure filter on something that isn't really mind to decide. I never feel like my work is mine, and I don't have any ownership over it. It's up to everybody else to kind of decide what it means in which way, it's going to mean to them the cool thing about movies is, you know, as long as our technology is all like safe, and well McLeod like it exists forever. So you can find it whenever you want a rewatch it whenever you want. So, you know, I don't know. And I still don't know I've had a lot of people ask me things like that. And he's like I'm not trying to be anybody's role model. If I'm trying to have the new shouldn't be a role model that just doesn't make any sense to me. Appeal though, at least that this would be the first solo female lead superhero movie for marvel that part doesn't matter because really it's about the character for me, the thing that drew me towards it was that she's flawed and the idea of playing superhero that's learning from mistakes. Whereas I feel like I've lived my life making so many mistakes constantly every day including today and the thing that keeps me going as a get back up. And I try again, and I feel like I'm a better person for the mistakes that I've made rather than playing some sort of idealized version of perfection. That's not really a hero to me. You mentioned having some concerns about your private life changing up to walk around. Do you feel like this weekend, you're sort of stepping through some curtain on into a different phase of your life? I haven't felt anything different yet. I feel like maybe once the movies out. That's Sam keep saying to me because I keep being like, I think it'd be okay. Like, I'm still walking around. No, one cares. People cut in front of me at line. I'm so grateful, and and he was like we gotta talk once the movie comes out. Well, that's what I mean. Do you think about what Steph are head? No, I don't I'll still just keep doing the same thing that I was doing before. And and then, you know, pivot and change if I have to, but I feel like I've been pretty open in the press to about the things that matter to me and having like a life really matter SME, and I don't think I can really do my jobs to me it's like in my conversation with with the general public. It's like if you enjoy the work that I do then you kind of have to allow me to have some leeway in space in in the public world. Part of your preparation for these three years has been physical those nine months of training. And now the stuff of legend pushing GPS up the hill doing dead lifts and all that why was it so important to you to get into that kind of shape for this character. Because first of all just because I didn't know how to carry myself in a way that looked strong to begin with to be able to be on a poster where you're kind of like in a stance and things like I didn't have that in me before. So it had to work really hard to find that get that. And also because to me what she represents is empowerment in strength Germans while other things to flaw vulnerability all that. But she really has a lot of strengthen her and it wasn't good enough in this conversation of like this representation of female strength to just say like put on a costume. And I let the visual effects tell the story. I wanna help tell that story. And for me it saying I went from not being flooded at all do after nine months of serious training be we'll dead lift two hundred twenty five pounds hip, gosh, four hundred pounds and push my trainers, sheep of a hill like that's real tangible stuff, and that was like hard work and a lot of dedication. And and I was able to push myself further than I thought my body was capable. All of doing into maybe there's people out there that feel like, you know, maybe they can let go of certain limitations that they had put on themselves before the craziest thing you did physically that you never match and nine months before that you'd be able to do for training training. Yeah. I mean, pushing the Jeep was pretty surreal. I just didn't think that I would ever actually be able to do it or or last sixty seconds because that was the goal and it was lightly uphill to as a five thousand pound Jeep. So that that was pretty insane. But there were even breaking two hundred of dead lifting took me like a month people to do that. And it was all mental. That was interesting thing too that I learned through all of this is like being able to lift a lot of it has to do with your mental state in the belief that you can do it. If you get tripped up over the fact that there's the number two hundred you won't do it. And so they actually tricked me into breaking it and told me that it was lesser weight than it actually was. And that was the way that I was able to break two hundred. Pushing GPS uphill's. I haven't trained as hard in particular on the press tour, but judo in particular or something I I learned in the gym. And I'm obsessed with it. I will keep that up forever. The air force training. You were talking to Jimmy Kimmel the other night about being up there. And the the air force the pilots who took you up said, you should be. Okay. You got a fifty fifty shot. How did that go? Pukes the whole time entire time. It was great though. I got I got a call sign Sparrow and each letter stands for a different thing. But it part of it is about the fact that I puked for the whole hour flight didn't ask to go back down on the ground. I wanted to keep flying. I don't wanna get too graphic with it. But this is in the cockpit with the pilot in front of you. And you have like, you know, the crumbs on. And she politely was like, you know, if you don't want me to hear you can you gotta turn off. And I was like, oh, totally. And then you forget every time. So she was simulating a dogfight doing incredible maneuvers while listening to me like. And you don't want to be actor who's like take it down. You wanted to ride through the whole thing. I just felt like I'm puking thirty happened. Like, we might as well keep going and finish it like, I'm pretty resilient. Definitely I understand what this experience is. And like who knows if had to go back up when a plane again, so I wanna finish it, and I wanna finish strong. And like nothing's going to stop me from finishing. What I started. Around. They said we'll say it'd be fifty fifty one hundred percent chance. They just didn't want me to chicken out. What does it mean to you to have some of those women who you flew with sort of around in with you on the press tour. So that you can celebrate that when you're at premier when you're on a talk show like that seeing that Kimmel maiming really much I was really emotional that whole day because it just felt like every stop on the way there is like someone from the past even there's a band l seven they performed, and I listen to L seven all through the making of the movie, I was huge backbone of like their music was what I would listen to before I did fight sequences. So to get to meet them into have them perform like a private event for captain marvel. I just couldn't stop crying. And again, seeing these pilots including Causey was the one that actually took me up sixteen. It just was moving to me because you know, these movies take so many people take thousands and thousands of people. And I wish that we had more time to talk about. And celebrate all of those people because it gets very self centered on press tours. I mean, maybe it's just me because I'm with myself all day. I really. I end up having to talk about myself on the work that I did. And I don't mean to belittle the work that I put in it. But I would be nothing without all of the people that taught me including them, and they are doing credible things for country and to have that sort of intimate time with them for them to let me into their world is one of the great pleasures at my job like to have that type of privilege to get access to situations. Like that is like it pinch me moments. I've seen sort of tip your cap to them the nice. There's a best. How will you measure success of this movie? There's the box office thing that everybody looks at for you. Or is that done? Have you done? This is like the most the hardest thing I've ever done which is like probably next time. We talk say that because I'm always trying to find like the biggest challenge. But for me, it was I found an inner strength. And I learned so much about myself like that six s to me, and I've already had one woman mock-up to shake my hand. And thank you for what you did. She said, you know, you did. Thank you. It was like I do. Thank you. That's it. Like, I'm done. There's nothing else. You know? I feel like like I said these things live on forever lose a lot of time to have different relationships to works of art. And there's been times that you know, even albums I buy they make sense to me right in the moment and lets them forever. And then sometimes takes me a little bit to get them in. It's just what it is. You know, getting caught up in all of that stuff is sort of silly to me energy. We're talking about art. We're talking about like, I think of it more as like a painting hanging on wall. Then I think about it as like a giant box office success or flop or whatever. Or size six year old you in Sacramento who was already think told her mom bye. Then that she supposed to be an actor. She knows what she's going to be. What would six year old you think about you with a billboard in Times Square about to open the biggest movie in the country? I don't think that she would ever expect it knows super shy as a kid barely barely talked. So I think the idea of just like it's a feat in itself for me and something I I love being open about because I'm sure there's at least one introvert watching right now and say, you know, I get it like the struggle is very real. But once again like doesn't have to be a limitation. It can also be something that is it. That's the part of me is able to moat on screen. But it's also the part of me that I have to nurture intend to have to like the careful with. So that like six year old I feel like it's always with me that six year old is the one that I'm in constant conversation with to be like, they you think you so much for being with me like, you know, walk around all over the world talking about this movie. So how do you think people will hear you say that that you're introvert, and you have this job where you have to at least play an extrovert, it'd be one on screen. How do you reconcile those two things? How do you reconcile being? Who feels like she wants to be insiders a little bit. But whose job is to go outside of herself. It's just I mean, the the simple answer is acting the more complicated answer is you just create kind of firm boundaries and guidelines to like what what I need and give moment, I think, I only know myself, but I'm sure I probably need more alone time or rest days more sleep than maybe other people. I think that's the difference. It's like some people get high off of social interaction. I get tired. So I just have to be open about that. And I am about like what I can. And can't do. And I also think I'm so grateful that I found acting at a young age, and that the six year old has been guiding my whole life because I think having that time when I was younger I was literally given a script to be like, this is how you be person. Like, this is how you make eye contact. This is how you greet people all of those things because those were all very difficult for me. I always felt like the world is very. Confusing philly. I was talking, but I wasn't. So having having that sort of outline I think helped me a lot to go understand. I understand, you know, maybe it's not the most natural to me. But I understand what supposed to act like a person long enough eventually become one. Yeah. Exactly. Which is just like, you know, playing Carol danvers for long enough, and I sort of feel like there's a there's pieces of her characteristics. That are now part of me that I've absorbed because I wanna keep them. Is it true that used to make movies in your garage, totally? Yeah. Your cousins were in them in your sister was probably in the volcanoes. We talking about some of them were original stories. One of them was like it was like a take on Chicago. Remember, the musical Chicago. It was like kind of like it. But not. But then it was also a musical. So we use the soundtrack. Dhamma? My sister was Roxie she landed the role. Yeah, she they're all, but I would do myself like they were actually called all by myself films. Production company created action company. Yeah. I didn't know the actually had delayed do like an LLC. Register it. I just put it on a title card. I move. We have the apple computers had movie then. So I would film stuff in our garage over the summer with her Devi camera, and I would I'd write the scripts edited. I had a disco ball that I would put in front of the door of the garage. And if the light was on we were rolling, so the family wouldn't walk in because we had times that he will walk in open the garage door and ruin it a tape sheets a professional operation. Oh, it was a whole fame. I'm still the same person point. All this went on this many summers. I mean, many summers probably like twelve sixteen that. Yeah. I'd also do EP. No you did. I did I did EP k where I would like ask my cousin to like talk about me. I know. I know people watching listening EP PK. Interviews people know, what's the. E PK was I don't know. I was in the industry at that time. So I don't know what I thought I was going to do with it. Or what you're supposed to do with anything. I'm still on Romy PK is used for. But I did that a budget. The budget was around twenty dollars. You're a savvy young filmmaker. Wow. So now, I get while your mom decide when you're nine years old to move the family to LA. Is you pretty early actor? It was really. Yeah. And was that a huge decision for your mom to leave Sacramento and go to LA if I'm sure it was, but my mom is so great with kids. Like, I didn't know anything. She was always so good at being like, easy, breezy about stuff. Like, I never felt like burdened never felt like anything was out hard. And Julie's believed to me that was the thing. And it's something that I've thought about so much on this press store and talking about this movie because there's a lot of core elements to but one being this like ownership of herself that she owns herself in this way. And the thing that she's told is a nuisance or as a problem is actually the best part of her. And I totally relate to that. You know, always been like different my point. View is different. And it wasn't always the thing that got me the job. It was usually thing that meant I didn't get the job. And I would question myself constantly, and my mom always knew to like set me straight and to let me know that like to be myself into fight for myself. True to who you are will pay off. Yeah. I mean, I know it's like, it's such a such a simple cliche thing. But really the older I get the more. I come back to that of like we have to live with ourselves for the rest of our lives. That's like the our old our first and oldest relationship. And so it's gotta be like a strong one got a hold ourselves tight for sure for sure. So what's the first job? What's the first paying jobs at the tonight show, those your first gig? And what was that exactly? It was a skit it was a commercial for fake product roadkill easy bake oven. No, that's true. My first one was that was like my second. I did like two dozen think first one was Malibu Barbie. Yeah. Or we like play dolls and a in the Dawson dumped Madama gap that works. I didn't understand it at all. Eight. Yeah. Your kid. So I think when people point to serve your breakthrough their few things, I guess raising dad was your first major role. Maybe right. United States of Tara. And then going to film, Scott pilgrim was there a roll along that spectrum or a different role. Maybe that you felt like this is my breakthrough people know who I am. And I've proven myself a little bit. Myself the the getting over the need to prove took awhile. It took a while being told no many times for me to go like, oh, this isn't a healthy relationship. But I will say that working United States of Tara and doing scenes with Toni Collette when I she was like, the she was the thing. I wanted to I'm late because I was home schooled. And I was remembering I would watch movies all day. Do my schoolwork. I remember watching her in three different movies like in the same day or two. And on three different occasions. I looked up like who is this actress, and it was the same person every time, and I didn't notice and I had never been able to describe what it was that. I wanted to do in film. I knew I never wanted to be myself. And I didn't want to be known for myself. But I didn't really understand what that was. It was like, oh, I'm going to be a character actor it'd be like that so to get to work with her and to gain her provable meant the world to me because you know, she had been this like lighthouse for for so many years. Watched her and then to be acting alongside or not that long after no not that long after. So is it after that where you go? Okay. I can actually do this for living. So be the get down. And again, you know what? I mean, I've been broke a dozen times. It's like people think like when you look at kind of like make sense to be consistent. But really large gaps of time of like three auditions day, still, you know, even like before room came out. I was stressing about money. I mean, that's not that long ago. No long ago at all. So that's two thousand fifteen which is train wreck comes first. And then later in the fall comes room, you know, my life way better than me. Today. Yeah. Great. What did that Academy Award mean to you and your life? To me out of the change things for you. I don't really know. I don't I know that I got more opportunities got to direct a film that was an that mental ought to me getting to do that. Because it to be that kid who was making movies every summer in their garage to that actually like having a budget and a team and it felt very right? If really really can't wait to do it again. But hasn't changed has really changed much. I know that seems like so crazy I don't know in which ways it changes because we don't know what it would have been like if I didn't win. This is just my one linear path that I've been on. But my day to day life was like totally the same. You know, I went from the after parties to three flights to Vietnam and ended up in the middle of nowhere with no self service. And was there for another month, and like just kind of normal is back to running from imaginary monkey, and it was all the same. You know? It's like. It doesn't kademi award winner. Brie larson? That's forever. They can't take that away from you. That's a big deal. Right. It's nice. Yeah. I mean gen- Lawrence put it to me the best because I called her like a day or two afterwards. 'cause I was like I feel the Saint like I still feel. I don't feel any different. I don't feel like there's like multiple fairy dust or anything, and she was like, it's just like, you PHD just think of it like that like you can still make your doctor so make mistakes you can so making steak it just means that like you got kind of graduated and not felt really writes me because it it feels like there's so much more for me to do. This idea of like thinking that I still have so much more work to do. And I haven't even done my best work yet that feels good to me. And that's like a place that I wanna live in interesting. You mentioned Jennifer Lawrence does Rian interview did a couple of years ago, and you talked about sometime after room in the success of room. And all the words you won you felt sort of isolated. Rated maybe even down a little bit. What was that the result was that the circling off the high of room, or what were you feeling in that time that put you in that place? It's just. It's like a it's a thing of like. That word is always kind of like in the distance. And then when it's right in your face. Then you're like, oh, well, then what's next like what do I do? And it took me a couple of days. But then I realized how excited I was that. Instead like I could define things for myself and make my own goals that I was so grateful to have had this experience in how to have this thing. And now I get to create my own definitions of success. And it doesn't have to be that. It can't be that. And sometimes it is a I still like I get a motion about it basically like once a year when won the Academy Awards happened or when the couple of times I've been lucky enough to pass off that were somebody else. I love being on the other side of it. Absolutely love it. It is like a true pleasure to be there and kind of be the ferry gardener. Because I remember how Freddie was for me. It was it was like a big. I mean, Eddie sorry. It was how was for me. It was like that. He was there dining through and to be that guide for other people. Is is really special. So you won the Oscar you proven now, you can open a huge monster blockbuster big budget film. Well, it is blockbuster film. It will be I know we don't have it open. Okay. Will you can open a big budget film? So what what next for you? I mean, you've been writing and making movies in or a little girl you've written and directed other films as you pointed out, what's on the horizon familiar still so young you're in your twenties. Fed a lot of head of you. What do you want to do that's out there that you haven't done? Tetons? Oh. I've been Boulter climbing. So wanna do that? I wanna go skydiving I've been saying for like four years, and I'm gonna read Finnegans wake. And I haven't done it. So I need to do that busy. I know it's just hard to travel with. That's my excuse. But that's that's all if got planned for a while. I don't know when I'll do something else again. But I, you know, I'm I'm kind of slow moving when it comes to movies. I can't like do do one a year. But I need like I need lots of time and lots of alone time like my goals right now are like I wanna cook. And I wanna grow plant from seed, and I want to do like all of these just like, maybe less. Interesting other people thinks studying mushrooms, pretty close. Uh-huh. How's that going? It's been good. It's been good. Yeah. But I've just missed. There's like a festival usually go to like, my favorite thing was even wintertime as when the foraging really happens. And I've missed it the last couple of years because I've been working. Yeah. So that's what I mean. Those like as time goes on you sort of learned to like prioritize in to not some of that stuff. And perhaps it's because I'm lucky enough to have had the normal kind of success that then I understand what that Tiestsin feels like. And I know that I need something else. Like, my heart need something else to the fun thing you really into fall. What was made my own fonts? There's a great program on the ipad. You can design your own through easy. But yeah, those are things that are like very soothing to me. Art, sit at the computer, just like edit fawns and do stuff like that. Like those things that I do I always have something like that. Because it's their great things for set things that are sort of meditative practice writing one letter over and over and over again for a while. Recently. It's been needlepoint. We're gonna get this movie launched and get you home to your mushrooms your fonts in your needle. Okay. Really sounds crazy. That Hollywood life. Hey, guys. Thanks for listening to the Sunday. Sit down podcast stick around to hear more from Bree Larson, including what it's like to work alongside her co star and good friend Samuel L Jackson. Hey, it's Chris Hayes from MSNBC every day. I come to the office, and we make television show in everyday I think to myself, they're so much more. I want to talk about and so this is our podcast. It's called why is this happening and the whole idea behind it is to get to the root of the things that we see out every day. They're driven by big ideas. Each week. I sit down with a person uniquely suited to explain why this is happening. New episodes of wise this happening every Tuesday. Listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Sunday. Sit down podcast now for more of my conversation with Brealey arson. Got ask you about your co star working again with Sam Jackson, my heart, your heart. Yeah. What kind of guys to be around these cool as he seems from the outside. He's the best his truly true bust and. Disagree over that guy. He has been there for me with every moment of my life because we were filming cong- when I was going through the word season circuit for room. And then he was with me when I dragged my future. And then now this and he's just real life jet. I and I've traveled in more countries with him than any other person ever. Yeah. We put in a lot of miles together. Through this process of fame and the rest of it. Well, he's like he's kind of. I mean, he's a Jeddah. That's the only way I know how to put it like it's not like he gives me advice tells me what to do or scolds me or anything like that. He's just infectious and that he's very engaged in life. He doesn't let his fame get in the way of his fun or his good time. He owns himself. He owns his craft. He believes in it. And so I've just learned so much from him from just being in his presence and being around him. And he's like, I don't know. He's like one of my best friends was just like, he's my safe place. So to be on this which could be, you know, a lot or overwhelming whatever to be doing it with him where he just he'll say things to me like we're doing pressing for he likes strolled up. He said, I'm gonna make you smile all day. And I was like what? What? What more could you possibly want out of a person or co star like a partner in crime in that? I'm so happy here. That's how he is in real life. That's what it gives off. Yeah. No, it's real. Thanks for the time. 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News in Brief 25 January 2019
"This is the news in brief from the United Nations u n human rights chief Michelle Basch, let won't on Friday that the situation in Venezuela could spiral out of control amid deadly violence linked to Hoan guidos self appointment as interim president the urine refugee agency UNHCR meanwhile has warned of mounting tension. As five thousand people day continue to leave the country. Many are in done need of protection. Here's at Rupert Colville spokesperson for the High Commissioner for human rights. We have received information from credible. Local sources that at least twenty people have died after allegedly being shocked by security forces or by members of pro-government armed groups during demonstrations on Tuesday and Wednesday with many others reported injured by bullets buck short and rubber bullets. The High Commissioner is extremely concerned. And I quote that the situation in Venezuela may rapidly spiral out of control with catastophe. Offic consequences in her statement, Misbash insisted that it was vital to prevent a repetition of repression against protesters demonstrating against the government of President Nicolas Maduro who was officially sworn back into office two weeks ago in the last week OH Chr says that some one hundred eighty protests have taken place in some of the poorest areas of the country's capital Caracas. It has also reported they large scale detention of demonstrators including three hundred and twenty people on Wednesday alone to the eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo. Now where deadly Ebola virus infections have increased in recent weeks and spread into a new area. Authorities say according to the DRC's ministry of health. There have been a total of seven hundred fifteen cases of Ebola which causes high fever and bleeding for one hundred and forty three people have died. The overall fatality rate is over sixty percent. New infections have been reported from thirteen health things and have incr-. Priest notably in cat were were health workers have faced community mistrust. The virus has also extended southwards to Qena which is described by the authorities as a high security risk area despite some public hostility hampering the fight the World Health Organization or WHO maintains that the disease is being pushed back in a hot spots where armed groups have hampered the work of health workers his spokesperson for della Shadab, if there is an increase in cases in these two health zones. There is a decline in cases and students in Beni which was the former epicenter. This is a strong positive and cater of how effective the response can be despite multiple challenges in Malawi, the UN human rights office. OH Chr has spoken of its alarm at increasing horrific violence. They're linked to upcoming elections. Victims of violent attacks have included politicians, male and female party activists and persons with Alba. Unisom in one recent incident in the north of the country. A fifty five year old man with album was repeated these stopped in front of his child therefore his arms were amputated by his attackers UN spokesperson Rupert Colville told journalists Geneva that member of parliament Bonk Lindow was also set upon after being arrested for insulting the president following his release on bail on the sixteenth of January. Mr. Kalinda was violently assaulted allegedly by members of the governing democratic progress party youth wing who will commonly referred to as cadets on the premises. So the district Commissioner in the southern Talamo lingerie, and he required hospital treatment then again last Sunday twentieth of January Edward Govardhan by who was a supporter of another opposition party Malawi. Congress was savagely attacked in Blantyre also reportedly by DP cadets, he was extremely badly beaten and also required hospital treatment, Mr. caveat. He had. Previously been threatened because of his political activities. Mr. Colville noted that women candidates are faced threats harassment and intimidation ahead of national elections in may Daniel Johnson UN news.
How the DR Congo volcano emergency gave new insight to humanitarian management
"This is matt well as un news aid workers are usually sufficiently prepared to overcome whatever challenges they face but what about a volcanic eruption. That's what happened to the un refugee agency's team in goma in the democratic republic of the congo drc when lava started pouring from mount nyiragongo on the twenty second of may to talk about the experience from goma. He has jackie keegan. Head of the agency's office in the city speaking to you and uses donald johnson. The government's last communication situation here is that while the earthquakes have slowed and are now of less intensity of lord intensity they remains movement of the magma underneath the city of goma and a risk of the second eruption following the eruption of the twenty second of may so the advice yesterday from the governor and the observatory was that large scale movements. Do not yet start. How many people are on the move from goma. The current estimate is about four hundred. Thirty thousand people who fled goma in immediate aftermath of the eruption on the twenty second or the The order to evacuate on the early morning of the twenty seventh of may there is there is a bit of movement on people are coming back to parts of goma that are considered to be less dangerous but there are still certainly under thousands of people in different parts of naursky to and even northern south kabul who have fled the threats that we're now there are one and a half million people in goma however and there is talk of a lava stream two and a half miles beneath the surface of the city. So if they were to be evacuated they needed to flee where they go is their capacity to help them and even for those who've already fled. I've come back to them. I left with the first wave to help my colleagues set up a response in south. If those of us the few of us who've come back to goma need to leave again including the rest of the residents fear then we would need to go west to suck and into south kooks and probably the mountains north of socks and minogue where the majority of people are or indeed. We would need to go north to retrieve rule and the area north of goma. Jenny is there enough to help. No there's never enough to help the people in need in hebrews before this happened there were already four hundred and fifty thousand people displaced just this year joining more than two million already displaced. Some of those people had already been distaste for some time or some or multiple times and and. We didn't have enough to do what we wanted to do. Their so now we've doubled. The number of people displaced just this year and we desperately need the help to be able to serve their needs and the needs of the people who have generously take them the mean as well as the needs of those who are already displaced and who are currently being displaced by ongoing fighting in different parts of this province and its two neighbors. Yes there have been recent eighty f- attacks conflicts and violence. That's up over two million people and as you said four hundred fifty thousand this year alone so that was what you were doing before the eruption so who's looking after those displaced in the north. We're all really trying very hard. Not to be drawn. Entirely to the response to the volcano. It's obviously difficult because we ourselves were essentially displaced by by what's happened but our in in beni town. Unhcr has an office in benny Preparing now that the road is opened again to send up supplies there in order to help with construction of homes and other assistance in beni north of benny and which are in response to the problems. But we're also sending nonfood items including some shelter kids but also blanket since onto people who were displaced in underground pinga and mississippi in the 'interland in here from goma. So we're trying to get ourselves back on track to keep working with the communities that we were already working with before this event happened. We can't let the pace slow on that because they are really in dire need as well but have you access to these. Four hundred and fifty thousand people where they being sheltered air scattered around north kivu in different parts of their multiple armed groups out there are as many as one hundred and twenty two armed groups recognized in north kivu south three active and then there are military operations against them as well as conflicts between them so they're scattered around the province. There are several key operating areas in inland from from goma and from the run ugandan border. Most people are hosted in host families in the congo. By far the majority those who are living in sites are often there for very long period of time so we're working with communities and local authorities to try to help the capacity of locals to respond because they are the first responders reading with support. Yes and you yourself have been displaced. I don't know if you displaced from the eight neighborhoods in goma which had to be evacuated. Were you talking to me from a uso tend to you in a complex. What's the situation for you and your team at the moment in goma team in goma is made up of knee and one other person and we are in the relatively safer area of goma. We've we've come back. Since the initial flight i accompanied my first operational team. When gumma was being emptied we went together to suck and indeed. I stayed in attempt with eight colleagues and we tried to get him to sleep to try and get some work started. We managed to get first toppling and immediate items and then we starting to build supplies. We started that the day after we all got there. We got there on the night of the twenty seventh and the distribution started on the twenty eight in another team arrived and is now in true as of yesterday so i came down to goma in order to help coordinate both of those teams and to support them and also such a connect with people in the rest of the province so that we're able to keep the work going not only in those two hubs but also in northern south keeping minova and calleja and and also as we were saying before in places where people have needed to flee violence caused by conflict. It sounds like you need a lot more people than you appear to have on the ground. Jackie and just quickly then onto soccer which is to the west of goma. People are based and where they're getting help. There is a massive color. A threat though. There isn't there. So how are you managing to respond to that. And if i might just add onto that bolt on quickly. What's been the biggest challenge at inside the eve learned from being displaced yourself and then trying to deal with an emergency is one of many places in the eastern. Dmz where cholera is and we and others are trying. We have a relatively small water and sanitation program. That accompanies are in camps incites. The red cross unisys Others are working on trying to get water and in much larger quantities to be. Both another important problem is that the water system for goma town itself was damaged in the volcano and earthquake of last weekend. So there's also work being done to try and improve that situation so that when people can come back they don't come back to a dangerous situation more dangerous situation You know i. I was lucky one we weren't we. Were we ran away with a bag of stuff and and we weren't quite sure where we were going to sleep that night. And so like everybody else had to knock on doors and and we were lucky we found the guatemalan contingent of mundus gophers. This attempt and we would lucky to be there and we felt the. Un peacekeepers doesn't the un peacekeepers helped us and. We felt like he should be there. Just as people who fled to you know the catholic parishes or or other churches and places of worship schools. You know we did what we could. I think i mean one of my colleagues said to me that she actually left with children and she said she had never properly understood the importance of child friendly spaces to displace situations that. It's it's a really important thing for children to be able to have space to go where they feel safe. And where parents. I say leading them so parents can deal with the logistics of being displaced. And i i think we've all got each of us. Little lessons learned from our experiences. Where how important a warm blanket is you know. It's we often. We don't give enough but those little things in fact ended up being really big when you're wet and cold and the ground is shaking and you can still see the glow from the volcano so we have a bit of sympathy. I think that people in the way that maybe we didn't understand before the interesting. And i guess among the lessons learned when you look back on this. What's the disaster prevention measures that are being put in place to protect populations from this kind of event from happening. I mean we have seen in two thousand and two previous eruption humbly. The problem is that in since two thousand two there have also been armed groups that have come into goma. You know this is. This is a place that knows many hazards and throughout the years both government and international and national actors have attempted to grapple with what would be needed to prepare for another event like this. I have a list of the things we could do better. But i'm also aware of the fact that that preparing for this even three weeks ago we would not have thought of all of the things that we've been confronted with his time so needed a better. We need to do better. But i also think that we need to we at and the government and local authorities and reception faces needs to be a bit kind wassels in terms of saying you know we. We got some things right. We can get other things better next time and we're just going to really work as hard as we can to overcome the challenges that people are facing right now.
Episode 661 Developing The Next Generational Sales Force with David Lopez
"When it comes to eating up your business it's all about making more megan and that requires an expert with a particular set of skills. You need a making allergist fielding authentic connections online networking through social selling relationship marketing mindset in training that bacon get ready because we're about to fry up a sizzling success strategy. This is the bacon. Podcast with your host and business aconowledged ryan basilica man. Welcome everybody on your host. Brian basilica this is the podcast. Where you learned to make your business sizzle online. So are you ready to fry up some new business. Hey peeps i have an amazing guest. This is a young gentleman. And i say that with all respect he is somebody who started up this great concept and i was so intrigued by it. I wanted to have on the podcast and his name is david lopez. And he's with a company called greatly they're based at a denver and he is a new entrepreneur. That is going to i think. Change the world. So david man how you doing. I'm doing well I one i appreciate you giving me the opportunity to to come on on your podcast. It's been great to speak with you and Yeah i'm doing well and excited to share more well. I'm excited for my audience to get to know about you and your concept and what you do so but before we dive into that what like to do is get my audience to understand your journey. How did you go from where you were to where you're at. So how did you go from being a fast food chef cooking up orange chicken to somebody who's cooking up an idea that helps people who may be couldn't find a job or go to college actually succeed in this world. How'd you go down that road man. Yeah no it's definitely been a a winding road of per se i You know starting out as sheriff app appendix press. I was able to you know really understand and identify where i really wanted to be and that was not in a kitchen working for somebody else and so. That's where i kind of had this first bug around like oh cable. If i'm not going to work for anyone else still needs. Make money. Because i was in high school And from there. I actually became a private tutor And and being a private tutor was my first access to having more money than a typical high schooler probably should have an to was dispersed aspect of getting unemotional paycheck and that emotional paycheck really came from seeing. My students grow and develop From having three to four tutors that were working with at a time to parents. Cut down to having our students just work with me and seeing you know seeing them grow and develop was like okay. We'll i'm having impact on the on these young students that looked like myself Growing up from a low income background To see what it was like to struggle into not have access to resources and permit to be able to play that role in b resource for other students was really something that intrigued me from. Jump for some fast forward a little bit To win i was graduating high school. Before going into college. I was able to work with talent agency But even beyond italian cows. I was able to you know work with a startup and the startup was really would expose me to the world of technology and startups and silicon valley and my entire world flipped upside down. Because i realized that there's all these amazing people behind all these companies that you know. I really admire whether that be apple or microsoft or even just witter right and so once i understood how these companies are built and what it takes to build them. I was automatically intrigued. I said i wanna be able to do that. And so i was able to go to university of colorado. Where i studied business and from there i was exposed to the vast differences between my experience going to the large state school on full scholarship compared to one of my best friends in the world oscar. Who was someone. That was just as talented just as qualified as i was. He didn't get the scholarship and so he's at community college. And from there. Ray able to really see you know the access to opportunities and lack thereof and so i'm over here oscar. Hey this company campus. This company came to campus near offering internships and full time positions. And i have so many options and talking to oscar. He was just like that's so cool but we don't have any of that and so for me. I automatically took a step back and was like okay. We'll there's something wrong with that. Because oscar our bowls individuals that will take advantage of opportunities are given to us. But if oscar doesn't have any opportunities that are given to him through his school. That's not his fault. But that's that's kind of a bigger parliament. So i looked at. What are the alternatives to to breaking into the workforce and of course there. Is you know the the code. Coding bootcamp such as general assembly. Lambda school galvanize. Things like that but for income kid like myself. I didn't even own a laptop a before college and let alone knowing any engineers Within my family. Because i'm the first one to go to college. I was like okay. This was huge. Learning curve was a lonely process and it just wasn't for me now understood that and so i looked and said what are the other ways people break into tech if you're not an engineer and so that's where we that's where we landed on sales and so we took that bootcamp model and we pretty much has spent the past. You know twelve months developing and building a curriculum that Would get our students hired and be an alternative to college if students don't have the ability to go to the big state school So that's kind of a quick overview of how i came from a chef at beni are not benny honner panda express to now being running greatly. Awesome and it's an amazing story. And i think you know first and foremost identified a problem and that was that your friend wasn't given the same opportunities you with is huge in especially in today's marketplace. I think the second thing is you've identified that there's a need for sales people and especially train sales people in an entry level position. And so what you've done is you've created this company around educating people that may not have an opportunity and getting them positioned to do what they need to do and the cost to them is what so the cost of our students is actually nothing Nothing financially right and so you know. Nothing is ever free before students. We just want you to invest in yourself by giving your full effort in our program. We the way we do it the way we set up our business mottos is. We don't succeed unless our students do. We're not making money unless replacing our students so that was one thing that was definitely really important for me. Being that you know. I i've seen students go to too big university. Go into a bunch of debt just to not have a job lined up for them after After college even though they spent all this money for all this training and and hoping placement it and so for us it was. We need to align our incentives directly with our end user. Which is our students and so for that You know students are are able to go through the program completely free with the hopes that they're investing in themselves taking advantage of the resources and opportunities that we provide in hopes that at the end of the program. They are already Have multiple offers and are able to then pick in which you know what company they wanna go and start their sales career with yup and in full disclosure to so the bottom line is the students know. Pay anything but when you places people at a job the company kind of gives you a finders fee like a recruiter but not necessarily the same. So you know i. It's a for profit business. But i think the model makes a lotta sense because there are you know. There's people out there that are hungry to learn that are willing to work. That are looking to do this thing. And the other thing that you're doing is is the cost of college has gone up like three times over the last ten twenty years or something like that. It's been it's insane the amount of cost when you graduate so you know even my kids who went to college i mean. They're still paying off their student. That's you know at this point till you ten twenty years into the mix and so you're giving these people an opportunity to walk into you know maybe a lower level paying job to start out but the opportunity for them to grow into that and get to six figures and be a rockstar is there. And that's that's cool or and and that's exactly it is this idea of. How can we give our students. Access to economic mobility. Which you know. How can we get them to have the opportunity to buy a house or to start a business or to go on family vacations. These were all things that i grew up without. You know having Growing up at this moment having seen her struggle with money with something that i was like. Okay well we're worried about food on our table in roof over our heads so we're definitely not thinking about all these other things and that was one thing i said. Okay we'll college can absolutely be great. But if they're gonna go to college and they're gonna go onto de they're going to be focused on paying off the debt before they might be able to go and purchase that home. And that's not what i want. Our students to go through because there are already coming from backgrounds in which they've overcome adversity and so for us to be able to provide them access to economic mobility and and even You know sales is one of those inch level positions that you don't need a degree for a lot of recent grads are ending up in those positions whether you studied marketing accounting. Or they don't they don't have a sales majors so you know the the students that are going into sales are coming from a wide majority of backgrounds because we understand that our students are able to cover their basic costs their mindset will be able to change their mindset changes their work changes when the work ethic changes everything around them start changing and move in a really positive manner and so for me growing up in a low income household to be able to turn on and say look. We don't always have to stay You know within within low income. Here's an opportunity. Few he really break out and don't get the same jobs at college graduates are getting is exactly where we want to be as a team in as a company so so let's talk about your curriculum a little bit. I mean obviously you design this because you've worked in some of those companies and again you know there's lots of sales training companies out there and there's lots of people that do this thing but what are you finding with the audience of students that you're finding That they need to learn in order to walk into a sales position with a tech company Ready to hit the ground running. What what are the key components to what you're teaching them. Yes so so we've actually have been able to take in a lot of learnings recently around. What are what absolutely matters. Mind uber Organ that's three months that's not. That's not a four year degree right and so for us it was. We need to make sure we fit in everything without building and giving our students too much and so for us. It's it's really around. First things first is really helping. Our students understand what sales really is on. B. to be level a lot of our students are coming in where they think. Oh you know sales. What's that that's the used car salesman trying to trick me out of my while. Actually no no no no. It's not any of that. It's actually really around building relationships maintaining relationships taking care of customers. And if you really want you you can control your paychecks of your hustler and you just want to get any your money and and get through numbers you can do that too. And so that that's week one and that's something that really separates us because of the group that we choose to work with. Our students are like coming from backgrounds. But they've overcome adversity and so that's week one. We walked into contacting prospecting extreme relationships overcoming objections but all all the sales trainers to right we also at no is our ability to give our students access to technology tools training so we walk them through. Here's how to properly right a formal email and how to match the energy of whoever you're you're speaking with. Are you know those those prospects. Here's how to set up a in profile to stand out and utilize your background to say that. Hey you're not. You're not the typical applicant. But you're more qualified. Because x y and z and then even getting into sierra systems such as salesforce in hub spots and when we combine all of these aspects of our curriculum beyond the technical training the technology and tools and then the the social interactions in working on teams that we provide throughout the curriculum. Were able to set our students up for success. Beyond what these college graduates coming out of with because they don't teach salesforce in spot in school and you're just expected to know how to formerly right these emails all that and so. We're studying these students up to be just as qualified if not more qualified than a typical university graduate. Yeah you're definitely giving them a good leg up to hit the ground running. Which is huge. I mean that that's incredible so number one. Where do you find your students. Or how did they find you. you know. Is it word of mouth at this point or are you guys advertising or our people finding you in you. Know how does somebody apply. And what are the criteria that says this person can come in. this person. can't because i can't imagine you know if you had a thousand people call you today. You can probably handle that right. Yeah yeah definitely. So the early on guys it's definitely Has been word of mouth. Like i said i in a low income neighborhood and went to low income schools and so i i have almost immediate access to all these individuals that was like. Hey look you didn't have access to the right opportunities. But i know how hard you work and i know where you're motivations are whether that be to break your family cycle of net never having a true career and or wanting to take care of your parents moved them out of this neighborhood and movements another these these motivations run very deep and they actually spill over quite a bit into the work ethic and so those are individuals that i wanna i wanna work with and i want bet bet on it so thankfully. It's it's been part of my immediate network but beyond that's also working with You know a few universities loosely to get access to their diverse students and more importantly their veteran student networks We wanna work with veterans. Because we know that they're coming in with the ability to overcome adversity. And i mean that's just how it is with all students that we're looking for is. Do you have grit and do you have the ability to overcome adversity. because if you're sitting on a call or you know you're sitting making cold calls and you get hung up on ten times in a row. Is that going to be the hardest thing you've ever done in your life and if the answer to that question is yes. Chances are gone a different direction. But if not an and you you've overcome some things and whether that be personally professionally but you're ready to take that next step when you're ready to be resilient that's exactly who we wanna work with and when it comes to being overflowing with with students i mean yeah. We're definitely in a in a position now where we're were actively fundraising so we could grow our team to be able to ensure that we can confidently invest in our students the curriculum delivery and most importantly that student experience nor to our chief The students aren't outcomes. Okay so now. Let's take it to the other perspective so you you've got somebody who's graduated and they're ready to go and they've placed him with the company. They're working with the company. One is the coolest feedback that you've gotten from one of the companies where you placed one of your students. What what kind of things are they say so. My favorite one actually just heard this week. Was that so one of our students was hired in a group of three so there is one one individual who went to our boot camp one individual who had no previous professional experience and one individual who came from another another startup as sdr And so you know. There's kind of the a almost like expert in his Cohort there's a newbie. Our student right and so but the new thing is. We're finishing up a her first month at this company. And she has the highest closing rate out of all three of of the. These new hires. And so you know. She's she came out swinging but it was that work ethic and it was everything that we help. Prepare her for along with your company's training that has now allowed her to cheat. She's made the the lowest amount of cost but has closed the the highest number of sales. And that's exactly what we're looking for said efficiency to stay. Look when when we get our students on the phone they close you know because you could get anybody to make a hundred calls a day but when you get someone on the phone. How is that interaction going. We can say that our students close. That's awesome dude. So what does it look like going forward. I mean where you know. Obviously there's capacity issues. You know you're going to have accent of people go through the program. How do you envision this going on. I mean in one of the things. I'm thinking about immediately off the top of my head is i can imagine people are gonna listen. I wanna hire one of david's people but they don't necessarily have a full time position Are you thinking about maybe creating a bank of people that could be you know You know sales people that would work remotely for other companies. Or what are you looking at for the future. What is what is your future. Look like with this. Yeah so so one. We are when one hundred percent remote already So remote workers is what our students are gonna be used to off the bat but to is. We actually offer micro apprentice tips for our students in the last twenty five percent of our of our program. Meaning they're able to interact with these employers from week three starts to bill. What kind of companies you know. They want to work with kind of products. They want to sail with those structures. Look like what these offer letters will potentially look like but then from there the companies will be able to say okay. Well that's how trial period and let's see if this person will be a right fit and we'll have the and we'll bring them in for micro apprenticeship where they'll be able to get hands on experience. Almost you know pretty much. An internship with separates that is its ability to have mentor ship. So we asked our companies partner with us and say hey beyond the financial investment you make with us. We want you to invest your time energy with us to ensure that whoever's going to be place it's going to be the right fit. We're not just putting warm bodies and seats. We're making sure students are staying. And and staying retained in order increase performance for your sales team and so poor that means giving them access to mentor giving them access to office hours and allowing them to ask questions and fail and and kinda learn as they go with hands on experience but being able to do all of that the setting of a company that could potentially be working with and then from there going to interview process and see if they can earn an offer from that company if it's a mutual v. I love what you're doing. I love the fact that you're you're taking your passion and your Social causes of trying to help people get a leg up and helping these startup companies. Find great candidates. I mean just. The combination of the three is just amazing and i can see a man. You got a bright future ahead of you and so i think that people are gonna want to get a hold of you not only to You know to maybe potentially just find some people the higher but also maybe some maybe they have some recommendations of of people that might be a good fit for your program to and you know maybe just interview you like. I'm doing so if people want to get a hold of you man. What's the best way for them to do that. Yeah so you know. i'm. I'm on twitter by my handle is digi l zero p easy and then that that's that's number one email of course is david at greatly. Gret r. i t. l. y. Dot us and then. Our website is jerry it l. y. dot us as well Especially if i can be a resource for any individuals that are thinking about making that jump into a career in tech david mann. This has been amazing. And i love the legacy loved the concept i. It's kind of a you know it's a profitable pay it forward kind of way of doing things. And i think that's really super cool. 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The Money Men - Randwick racing review (Champs Day 2)
"Hello and welcome money man. Look we're looking at died two of the championships at are welcome in Beni Clifton. Have I you on this Easter Monday? Benny very good night. We survived another week racing capes on Roan in this crazy world of Ales and it was a great day race and it ran become set. It was. Let's begin not even going into the rice is. Yeah I just want you to get your take on the track in any other variables. You've found not only for on Saturday but for going forward for dessert there when you say the conditions the same well. I think in terms of the track. The inside was probably off in the strike. I didn't seem to want to go anywhere near that. But I think the wind was the biggest factor for Mon as the day went on it got stronger and the horses were really affected by horses. Really jumping out of the back of Italian. You know it was. Some horses appeared to be in the right spot as well but still it had impact on bigger impact on horses than what it appeared initially. Yeah I think that's right. We're Seth Leslie weaned and up to fifty five fifty six K those lighter in the die what that was well. It was a headwind in the back strikes. I from the forty nine hundred. Sixty eight hundred shoots going straight into their faces. It was almost like the shoot rights as yours has tile win the hauling toy time because it was a tile wind in the straighten the shoot sort of just dive off their behind the strike. You could be on spe there but if you're facing the brazen nose four eight hundred plus writers and we'll talk about him as we go through the rices you really struggled. I think they horses did find it. Hard to compete. I think you have to be forgiving fuel. Those horses some that filed might just be good but I think just be forgiving. And when you say weaned Mike Show you know the direction that he's going so he can somehow plan. You'll die of where your horse is going to map. It's really important. It's not just GONNA BE SOFT. This is going to be dry. Wind has a major impact when it goes up to that Columbus has to be over twenty kilometers to be. Have you have an impact? Anything worse than that. And it's probably doesn't really matter. Yep definitely right on a genuine three. I think we've got the times again from Vince. Cardi say thank you very much for sending them through from daily sectionals. We can break down and it looks like they've run on a genuine heavy track heavy through ask system. That's what it seems to have plied rice wine. We begin on time to seventy two three hours. Sixty wins fair twelve to get some good support finishes second and post-code runs favorites three thirty institute seventy. It's a horse that lay did finish fourth. They go at one and a quarter second slower than the Queen of the turf. The KUMO legacy twenty five eight four. Thirteen five time. Worst of the day boy far. What do you make of the rice? Well the writing on the wall with the wind was started with these rice with postcard so heavily backed meant to get a really self late. Did get us off laid and really didn't give much in stride so I'll be forgiving of that horse on time. The winner obviously was coming out of that value stakes which we talked about on insider trading which didn't write all that while Iran. Slow Tom. It was a bunch finish but on this occasion. It just got the run. Got The caviar and really came over. The top light took the whole strike to get there but it got the job done but going forward. I personally don't WanNa be taking care of these having said that if post postcode forgive run yet and I think it's important here so you can say an times when the rice and you go well that maybe that's great former difference. Neil for rice like holyfield hosts that come out of that. Rice democracy can be said again. It's two seventy two three hundred sixty. You can get on the exchange so the markets agreeing with us at that. Rice is absolutely terrible. And I think we'll probably say Holyfield Goto the champagne boy all reports maybe in the six hundred meter race this Saturday I think the market is going to take it set against it so just be careful. Yes on time tweens. That doesn't mean that form reference holds up through it. The market does hit a really good defected. I took it on. That's my opinion on that and early. Fifteen into four sixty eleven hundred up to sixteen hundred. Didn't probably had every chance of getting into diet. Is Deputy Camp? But they just notified enforce at the moment and Audio that run at all also interesting as well. Eleven to sixteen hundred meters. That's a big. It's a big jump. Lotta horses can't handle it. We saw it. We say to sit. Start at eleven to fifteen hundred quick. Backup run second at Doncaster. So next valley at sixteen hundred meters. Yes I WANNA bay with it but went horse is going from that big jump. Eleven hundred or twelve hundred sixteen hundred. I think they find it de Vigo. It's the Knicks Dot. You WanNa be with them. I think that you can take that one going off forty four days as well so we have a big fitness improvement here yet to Yale. Dash three twenty just after three dollars. It finishes seeks highlight bit of support for forty industrial as eighty finishes third INDYCAR. Four fifty eight to six wins. There's a story in this race I think. And it's the host of finished second choice bath. Nineteen to seven dollars heavily supported finishes second twenty four. Six thirteen are very very quick. Here half a second quicker then. Rice three Os bath should have won by the length of the strike l. On you tell a story then well it just never going to happen. And even when he did get out he started then had to stop again and then had the audacity continually getting held up. How it up the one fifty two hundred twenty finally gets it and you think well. The Rice is shot to beats really finishes on It was a big performance but indy-car well yeah and I think the market starts to tweak to the fact is we're going to really struggle with the drift on Yale Dash indie count awesome bath back in the field CAV UP. I really stormed. I'm light would be. Forgiving of the holiest is up on stage. Just as we talked about that wind was was a pretty significant factor yet. They've gone definitely far so I think a couple of more actually be out of spring boat off this rice so it'd be interesting to follow through rice three well. Oregon is probably only one story and that was the winner through the cracks Dulles fifty to six dollars twenty five one six twelve seven two very good hyme. They've gone really. Well could anything to talk to me about why they told US my being supported. We've been banging on banging banging on changes. I and Jenny dug into John's McDonald as we say. No disrespect any Douglas. Giants McDonald's the Premier Jockey yesterday or at the moment and and that just showed in this performance he he obviously was in the wrong. Part of the track is fiery yet Cava at the back at hey just flew through the lawn. Big PHILOSOPHY DOT which. I met Gallon on. He had that sort of springboard to even bigger figure the market fan at here. Yeah absolutely and we spoke about this a couple of weeks ago. We said that the Country Championships. The provincial champions. This is where you're going to say some big significant jockey challenges. Well probably not bigger than John Matt going onto a horse again as you say semi Clinton and Jimmy Duggan night disrespect but this is John. Mccain's gang at twenty six percent metro country wherever you want. He's a great fauntleroy. And that's what happened with Rice An Electric Bill was the one that I moved for early in the dice. Six dollars into four dollars. It but she did trip flight. This wind expose any weakness horses. Hadn't she probably was a little bit wage? She did get a little bit of cover but she was at the finish quad disappointing for a wife. And Kimberly grinds where she's been winning at home tracks that for me. Was the store the rice as well. Yep Rice Four A. Y. Game rock-solid three dollars thirty finishes I any other Horse Really Speak T. V. in Djelic second twenty three dollars into seventy dollars twenty five seven four hundred dollars. Four hundred loss two hundred. I think this is a pretty good performance. Clearly the story is a wagon. Yeah and what a fantastic season. And she's had won the magic millions huge run in the blue dog and she was called forward hall. White still kept coming in the lawn and then applies to the golden slipper. I've heard Cape performing three at least campaign you know. And she did have that NAS little soft Ron. She had the class edge and now she had to get the job done but she did. You know you could make a case for a two year old of the sport not winning the Blue Domino gone sleeper. Or I think no idea. Let's break these down. He punched his booze on the sixteenth of November. Run for the Hanseatic insane. Dan then goes to Queensland wins the magic millions then has backed does back to Sydney has a rice then run fourth in a blue domino around one and three quarter second inside standard time then goes to the slipper and run sickened and they come here in does that. Isn't it standing trying performance but bay? These horse must have some heck of a constitution. Narrow guy's a super performance. She's had seven runs. We've did the timeline sometimes. These horses just aren't comeback. Serov near she might be different. She might be just really strong. But we're GONNA have to wait and say to say what she does is a three year old. I think yes and I'll take the here in from the style. They pretty confident that she will come back as a threat. And you've got to take it that she will at least not run off early three zero. Absolutely because what Spain it'd probably done ago is unhealthy Veggie site. She's not GonNa win to your out of the year but to be honest she she would. I think just the efforts have been just doesn't know how to put in a bad rice right five Anna. He'd nine into six dollars. Fifty Finishes Third Fleet Sixty seven fifty finishes second. Splint TECH's nineteen into nine fifty really good support for this horse. Eat Wings and cosmic force rock-solid at three dollars nothing short of poor finishes seventh. They've gone and the rice is going slow within the away. Game rises to two year old Rice twenty-five three to thirteen at home. I think this is going absolute junk. What do you make of it well? I thought I had a chance to run dance. Metex along with the winners he. He was a leftist seating. Sean Unproven at the twelve hundred heavy dick say authorities performance was good or thought fleet becoming a bit of a Junkie Basha. But if had a bit of a stronger jockey immortal got got heim over the top of splint tanks and maybe if she went to the at saw it as well go to the. The rice stinks. Tomatoes Meek four obviously. Something's gone on the he's hot in the market. All three runs these Tommy to place to win so wouldn't want to take these. I think. Probably the learnings edit familiar we can. There is no doubt fleet is a show. Of course I think twelve hundred Max. Four hundred meters giant. Be Pushing your any further obviously get off and Nola more than me about the homeless. But I think that's where she performs the best care fresh and this sort of goes to show. This was around the shoot so this is that there isn't a twelve hundred where it was okay to be on speed. You had that title. We all the way Ranji so when we sign on spade that's the case in. They shoot rises. We're going to be back after the break. We'll go through the four. Greg wants it was a ripping di Di to the championships. Welcome back to the money man. We are dissecting day two of the championships at Randwick. We were on genuine heavy. I track daring that with the Times. Well it was the first air group winds it was the stroke and oaks and this was a fascinating betting writes. It was an interesting rice but I think it was a really interesting betting rice as well. Benny shared the bar five dollars to six dollars. Dollars FINISHES SEEKS QUINTA. Bit of support for these horse. Two Thousand Sixteen to sixteen RUNS RIGHT UP TO MARKET. Expectations finishes third probably deals. The one at the pros wanted to absolutely heavily smack on Saturday morning. Rice morning when they're allowed to apply three dollars eighty into three dollars. Twenty and call it. We'll throw Saturday morning. Gets to three dollars sixty with that big support for probably bill and then light a big push back for which is a positive for those people in the collegiate camp back to three dollars change. He runs five. She wins the rice. Twenty-five one six twelve seeks to high. Pretty good she's a NAS philly off shore and I think the market if you that market kept fifteen on a bit defected. It crunch back in light suggests that was very confident with it and I think the Cato lease rice we talked about it in the Dhabi the first place getters on the backup and I realize longer distances. It just can't assign much more on the heavy Dick as well so I thought Oh honors. Bossy gave her great rug. She was travelling along way at Dan. The market obviously started with probably she. She's got the big figures good S. as in really good Rice's but that set up for twenty four hundred meters on the heavy track. It just wasn't the right setup in Hong. Sorry that's the onslaught cheese classy feely. After I explain is everyone talks about the big caps. What do you think that I think? It's a really nice horse. But this might be a different year as well. We might not have the international internationals DOT COM. She's probably going to be in the rice with a chance. But there's a few others more talk to you later in the day that I think he'll be big plays in the Coffee Cup. In particular now international she becomes probably alive chain but got to be very careful. Because you know you. Internationals have got an absolute lack. O'neill's I will say. The three hundred hundred zero eight twenty. Probably or from the pros. I just assume that she had to avoid guided. They're going to go forward on probably. Will I did complete opposite and I wrote all the way back and there was run. The white color at settled the white bossy writer. She was probably was always going to have a lot ahead of her well. I'm always scared of the wind is well. I probably thought if I go. Get your wardrobe. Cactus going back at in cal-. She was never in the rice rice seven. It was the Sydney Cup. Young Rascal to forty two twenty finishes Seventh Ryan. Hey ask really solid seven fifteen to five dollars. Fifty he was on the Seven Day. Backup sway. Thomas could understand the move but it was already wanting to thirty five. Misses the hull but runs a really good rice to finish fourth. Edit giants twenty six dollars into four wins the rice twenty five nine. Thirteen one seeks time. Not at righteously good but it was over thirty two hundred meters any learnings. He market definitely go wrong with etta. James Look good for their that thrift on young. Rascal light obviously was a concern authoties. He had every chance he lost in right all that well. And we'll talk on trading on Saturday morning the same to be paying a premium for today's International. Holson in these particular guys. You know they've been winning. Everything had Tom are on board. It was very short in the morning and it did have every chance. Never really quickly to be honest And Look on the backup very good Ryan House on the backup the seller. Ron Did did mention young. Russell to forty to twenty to forty two eighty. Sorry about their parents. Just with a giants. He'd had that form so forth in and Auckland Cup before that I think he ran really well in two thousand four hundred meters white for I driver. New Zealand's democracy obviously tightening to affect that New Zealand type of foam horses over thirty two hundred meters that have performed big advantage especially on wet tracks. I mean we still Ryan has said the market wanted to be in. That was on the Seven Day. Backup onto the heavy tracks. The other things of the market are obviously starting to Etta James. Probably the concern was off thirty five days but it did have that solid granting before that's Forgettable seek out monitor. It lacked the quality of previous. She is I think most of g obviously the White was too much rice. Well this was just an absolutely belt or a variety is dating that knew that on premium. We got four dollars Tuesday afternoon gets into three dollars fifty then Saturday. You can say just there was a swell around him. Starts Seventy two in the four dollars? Fifty finishes by no mean. He ran very well. A dive rock-solid at four dollars twenty. We know the story the shock seventy five dollars fifty finishes fifth master of Wine. We thought this would happen. He was knowing after fourteen dollars but he's huge finishes fourth very elegant harding. The markets sixteen to five dollars fifty ron and Melody Bella. Listening to nine fifty six twenty four one. Six seven two. It was a rice on this horses. Superstar you even the third quickest last two hundred of the day just pair with through long pair and why from Wings was in this race. She would have been hard. Prescott and passed him on these particular. Diaa think she would`ve. She will pass. She would have go past she would have given he would have given her a. Wire Dad. I mean he's a he's a world-class says no daring that. And he put the writing on the wall with that rams yes they went out real slow but the twenty two four and what was it. Eleven to six on a really track last four hundred lost two hundred. Then you get very elegant going winning the tankard boy lap. He is a serious right so it was a huge performance and really no. I will mention master of wine. Wide throughout just wasn't well placed in these kinds of conditions so to run fourth. I think he's a huge performance the K. Here with master of wine going forward if you wanted to look to her spring a coffee COP Melbourne Cup. Whatever you think he's going to be so well placed these rices now. He hasn't finished in the top three. He's not GONNA get too much why he hasn't got a big win in terms of a group one group two to give him any great common account too much what he's going to be so well placed in these. Coffee Cup. Melvin cops and the hawks have done this perfectly. They weren't intending to win too. Many rights these candidates who is a campaign designed to getting ready for the spring running in some really nice. Rice's run home runs the other background harm. Know he's going to be a coalfield. Count Malvern Colson. They they've done that too perfect guy for spelled and come back in the spring and he'll be one of the contenders isn't that's K. We talked about it before with if there's no internationals as coalfield in Melbourne Cups and I specifically the Coffee Cup from Ostrov on just the white though. I think these horses going to get if he comes back in the form that he's going at Itchy Caulfield Cup winner Dan on Premium V. The talk about the wet track with it. Is that an excuse enough? For Forty six days it did lumet blocking was GONNA win the call ago. Got Excited about it as well. And obviously you Davis. It's a little bit stronger. Yeah I mean look at have had some impact bit. He's still ran. Well dive look at the time. Foams chose his own twenty four left as we spoke down premium before she came in at least one hundred twenty four talk shows that he's serious rice and that's what happened rice nine interesting rice funds to ninety heavily supported. Light into two fifty finishes. Sick and positive pace will eighty third. Just probably families want to be too high. But let's go ahead sensational. Prep Conti Pottier. Thirteen dollars into eight dollars. Fifty wins the rice twenty four five twelve four six home very good. What do you make of the rice? Good support for these horse to win the rice. The they didn't miss a and when you the common theme through this she's on the backout she ran well in the doncaster. Really good set up for these rights. It was dropping class for and she paid. Why from Guy Walter Hudson Adrienne Bard of autumn? Three group one wins horses. Who weren't particularly five. It's for the rice as either to get away with three grew on Wednesday just so tough and strong on the water has bought. Horses thought found style was good enough. The market was solid with her. There was there was a little bit of a push against a mid morning. Back very solid lightfoot. James McDonald probably road. Great Rice it would have been interesting to save. He'd come to the ad saw whether it would have made any difference but for a second there. Look she was going to really make a challenge but dr off. I'm wondering whether the inside a little bit inferior but it just was all with them on. Yeah absolutely and You wrote with water. I think we spoke about it. In the last seven die seeks from four. Ain't going at forty three percent. When came like that get hot? Stick with them and obviously you know the market one or two with her and she wins last rice seventy on. I four twenty into three dollars sixty finishes for Sakic good support. He four industry dollars thirty finishes second and White Moss who she wanted last year. Wins it again knowing dollars? Detained dollars goes forward. Twenty three six six twelve twenty eight high which is the best by far Nashua in how many days since they last round holes? Or don't tell me it's going to be in seven days. It's a common name but she she did get away with motor up front. I went very slow at in front. You've got develops got the stats. But once you get natural wheeler on board on a front runner he's very hard to get past jockey. Change You WanNa talk about that now again. No disrespect to Kathy. O'hara she went on. I think on what might be last year but national wheel grow one multiple one of the jockeys industry going on especially on a horse that suited by that. He's a great front running Reuter. And you're right. They absolutely gave this horse a picnic area in front and it was going to be hard to run it. Dan Hanes run twelve twenty. I get run down a right. She could probably follow going for the couple of wholesome. Probably the junkies are asleep on Vince. A few few mayors in this race lock for Seca. Who Gone really well if I can find a similar rice in the next couple of weeks. Oh God to coins and they'll be competitive titled the agree. We'll be back after the break. Trash and treasure. He's trash falls getting pretty full. Welcome back to the money. We have dissect at the ten races for day two of the championships. We've got another day of the Carnival lifts die three Jane which is but it's still going to be two group one's on offer the champagne stakes sixteen hundred maters for the two year. Olds we have. Benny Look King's legacy wins. The saw two dollars eighty all. I Kirk Three Fifty Holyfield. That's bad at six on time. Probably on the backup seeks fifty along I and then he got double figures. Glenfiddich is say you want to focus on. We spoke about on time a little bit today at the Holyfield on we logs. I'll be looking around those horses bit. There's not a lot of made on the bone at the at this stage. I wouldn't think you have to say I map. Yeah good point The oil I is the other one. This is a ripping rice if we can get these hoses. He Benny Center on the line at four pair out of four forty four sixty drain force. Ruby's sake she gets her chance against the Big Boys Kevin Tower. He was pretty good on his way back in Brandenburg coming back from the doncaster after starting just about five. Jeez that's a good rice trained force. Maybe the only later in that market might. He seems like a rice that he would win. That's a very good point and you're going to get because there's some really good is. They're they're obviously going to take up a lot of percentage of daring that trash. What are the trash coming out of data championships Bennett? Cosmic Force money gone the wind. Sa- tough factor to deal with when you're punting bill. I think they'll put her why and she. She needs a rest because she she was disappointing onset and Atra things we can look forward to go for a died. Obviously it was the star of the Shy seven-night day backup boots very profitable as we talked a WII game of the year. From on and Gay Water Adrian bought absolutely flying in the mom. Yep just want to speak on caren. Mayer dive uses. Just what they did on Saturday. With the training performance you got a why guy material out and then the other spectrum you've Gotta. Stein thirty two hundred meters in Etta James. He is a dead set horse manure. Mass insatiable international trying to us. Just go to bed with them. The record they're standing fifty five and a half percent property to another and Martin payer vile mine para he was an absolute superstar loving to death our IP champ. That was the money man we dissect it di- to of the championships say.
News in Brief 7 January 2021
"This is the news. In brief from the united nations top officials including the secretary-general and the president of the general assembly have expressed sadness over the violent scenes on wednesday involving supporters of president trump. who stormed at the. Us capitol building the arrival of demonstrators temporarily brought a halt to the judge ruled confirmation of november's presidential election result. The secretary general is saddened by the events. A spokesperson for attorney guitarist said in response to questions from correspondence adding that in such circumstances it is important. Political leaders impress on their followers. The need to refrain from violence as well. As to respect democratic processes and the rule of law vulcan gear president of the un general assembly also voiced his dismay at the scenes on capitol hill. In a tweet. Mr busk said that the. Us is one of the world's major democracies and that he believed that peace and respect for democratic processes will prevail in our host country at this critical time in the day. Several thousand protesters marched on the us capitol in washington dc the heart of american democracy and home to the house of representatives on the senate after president trump and his supporters repeated false claims of election rigging more than fifty individuals arrested on hong kong's new national security law should be released immediately the un human rights office. Oh jarred said on. Thursday fifty-three political activists academics former legislators current district councillors and lawyers were arrested on wednesday. Oh chr said spokesperson. Liz thraw noted that the arrests were the latest in a series of detentions over the exercise of fundamental freedoms including the right to peaceful assembly in hong kong. These latest arrests indicate that as had been feared the offense of subversion the national security law is indeed being used to detain individuals for exercising legitimate rights to participate in political and public life. She said mistrustful stress that the exercise of the right to take part in public affairs is a fundamental right protected by the international covenant on civil and political rights which is incorporated into hong kong's basic law the un rights office and independent experts have repeatedly warned that offenses such as subversion under the national security law which was passed in june. Two thousand and twenty are vaguely defined and facilitate abusive or arbitrary implementation the massacre of civilians in eastern democratic republic of the congo. Drc has been condemned strongly by the un secretary. General who's called for justice for the victims and their families. At least twenty five villagers were reported killed by the allied democratic forces militia in the villages of tin guay wendy and new zanga near beni territory in north kivu province on monday it was reportedly the second mass killing in a week in eastern drc where dozens of armed groups continue to roam the vast resource-rich region in a statement issued by his spokesperson. Antonio tariffs reiterated his call for a global cease fire and just d- groups to lay down their weapons. He also stressed the determination of the un peacekeeping mission in the country manisco to protect civilians and support efforts to consolidate peace and stability in the country. Daniel johnson un news.
Ep 127: Building a Grassroots Movement From Scratch
"August tenth nineteen ninety nine just over twenty years ago. A white supremacist. Gunman walked into a los angeles. Jewish community center fired seventy shots using a semi automatic weapon wounding three kids a teenage counselor in an office worker later that day he randomly shot a mail carrier four months since the columbine high school massacre twelve students. One teacher murdered every one of these victims had moms moms whose lives were changed in an instant and for millions of moms watched the news and they felt this insanity a summer of madness but one of those moms watch. The news stood up and made a plan why you wonder probably lots of things but at its heart. Her kids went to jc camp and it could have been one of her kids. But you know what this person had something special. The same thing that nonprofit leaders come hardwired with the word is spa. She stood up and got to work and nine months later. Thanks to her leadership. Seven hundred and fifty thousand moms gathered in the mall on washington tens of thousands in cities and towns across the country. A million moms calling for stricter gun control today. I wanna talk about hood. Spa leo ralston. In the joys of yiddish defines spa as gall brazen nerve a frontally incredible guts presumption plus arrogance such as no other word and no other language can do justice to yeah. That's it we'll talk about that what it looks like. And how you build a movement with it and we'll just talk about today about now. Have we made progress. How do those who advocate for gun. Control maintain a sense of purpose and hope. It's time to talk to mom number. One of the million mom march greetings and welcome to nonprofits are messy. I'm your host. Joan gary founder the nonprofit leadership lab where we help smaller nonprofits thrive. I'm also a strategic advisor for executive directors and boards of larger nonprofits. I'm a frequent keynote. Speaker a blogger and an author on all things leadership and management learn. More at joan gary dot com. I'm a woman with a mission to fuel. The leadership of the nonprofit sector. My goal with each episode is to dig deep into an issue. I know that nonprofit leaders are grappling with. I find just the right person to offer advice and insights. Today is no exception. Two thousand and four memoir guidebook called looking for a few good mom's how one mom rallied a million others against the gun lobby earned her the could spoil award from oprah. The book was also cited by the atlantic in two thousand eight as one of the best books on female leadership in two thousand fifteen her daily beast essay. How to organize. The mother of all protests led to a nationwide grassroots effort. The following year called the concert across america to end gun violence in which she served as co chair also in two thousand sixteen co produced and co directed the award winning documentary five a week about the women of louisiana who reform the state's domestic violence laws by getting the nra to stand down over the years. She's promoted gun violence prevention and grassroots activism in hundreds of media outlets including meet the press face the nation the today show and the nbc nightly news in addition to her activism. Donna has spent most of her professional career in new york city at the cbs network. On its communications team. She has represented numerous high profile talent. Including dan rather david letterman and bob schieffer. I'm also joined by sheikha hamilton. She is currently the national organizing and chapter development manager for the brady campaign to prevent gun by violence. She's been working on the issue of gun violence prevention since the year. Two thousand one while living in detroit at the time she helped organize million mom march the largest protests against gun violence in the us history until two thousand eighteen in the march for our lives. She's worked on this issue every day. Since then held various roles from chapter leader the state chapter president to the first elected million mom march leader elected to the brady campaign board of trustees to the national spokesperson for the million mom march. Rally to renew the assault weapons ban. She has also appeared on cnn msnbc and a host of media outlets. She is a licensed attorney in california and michigan. Her boots are on the ground and she has worked for decades to pass gun control legislation in her home. State worth noting all of those credentials. Both of you donna. And she thank you for having to stone who anka joan. So we've all sat in front of tv news and seeing the horrors of gun violence. We can rattle off the names. Columbine sandy ok- oklahoma city. Pulse las vegas and those literally just came off the top of my head in a hot second. Some of us gas cry others write checks. Many don't do much of anything. I'd really like to hear what you believe. It takes to get off the couch and do something can start with donna. And then she got great well. I didn't really have foot. Spur right off the bat. It took me about a week to actually hall cap without police to get an application to march on washington i. I tried to volunteer of one of the many noble and fabulous gun violence prevention nonprofits in our existed. But what. I didn't realize at the time that they get death. Threats constantly get harassing phone calls and so there are a lot of. It's very hard to reach our back. Then you know one of these nonprofits. So i tried for about a week to volunteer and i got very frustrated or mike okay. Here's a problem. I know there must be lots of people just like me who wanna volunteer and they have nowhere to go. I did what i think. A lotta women. Do i picked up the phone. And i called women friends and i said i applied for permit to march on washington and i need of your help and get it was on a seven day says from being outraged by that shooting to actually plans to the permanent. So i i wanna put a pin in and come back to something. You said that. I want my listeners to really attend to. Which is that. Donna tried to reach out to nonprofit organization. Say hey i'm here. I'm outraged and i'm available and i wanna help and i'm not sure. The donna is the only person that has had an experience like that she got. What did it take for you to say. I've had enough. I want to do something about this. Well i i know i feel like it's a build up I grew up in california where there were a lot of shootings right back in the eighties and early nineties. And i didn't do anything about i. Stockton schoolyard shooting. There was a law firm shooting right across from where i worked. I didn't do anything. I was a young mom holding my baby when columbine happened at endure anything but then that mother instinct kicked in when i saw little blip on the news saying million moms are marching in dc. I called up my friend who worked for my congresswoman and said what are you going to do about it. And then i went to the million mom march website in. This is the key thing i went there. It was very simple. It said the problem and the solutions and how to get involved. I emailed the purse. I it just email. I emailed and would i don't know maybe in an hour i got a response and they asked me to come to a meeting. Me was like that i was in right that fast and it is true. That right when you're pilot light has been ignited about something and you and you raise your hand right. The pilot light can go out awfully quickly. If there isn't that kind of rapid response. And i and i i happen to know i happen to know the guy who who built that website And he has been doing my digital marketing for long time and I believe donna might have been a reference for abstract edge. Which is the firm that Built that site and i just wanna say Scott has been my business partner for a long time now and It was such a gift to someone who does digital marketing to be handed. The opportunity to do that work for you and i know that to be true so Really really interesting and it boy. Doesn't it talk to the power of social media and how instrumental it is. I don't know donna. Did you want to jump back in. I want to jump in. I know you wanted to ask me about the keys to success for the march and Really for me. I was in public relations. I was very well connected. And i also do a lot of savers for people and live in favorite frosty and so i really started picking up the phone and and and calling back in those favors joined us march on washington. And you to help. Don't march wash and you do to help me and i don't even know 'cause i beni hudson. She's very well known in media. And i'm really nobody hudson at well and she didn't. We need favors. But i know how i got into her office. But she launched ivillage dot com which was like the first website for women and he took the meeting. And i came in. I kissed her. You know we're gonna do this march. I had one of the moms of was a schoolteacher and a pr person helped ryan our mission state which was very good. And then betty lifted over. And so i said betty. I needed to give us a website and as betty said. We know what. We really can't do that here. But we will be your corporate sponsor we will make a donation as corporate sponsor and we will help find you a web designer and that is how i got linked abstract edge web solutions and i. There's anything a serendipitous as bad. Because you know john i talk a lot about how women are to a movement moms search movement. Where would you get the right to guys who had a good mom. And how to work with women and sky and eric paley. I mean they. They totally got us who we laima march and i told him what our challenges were and they created a website. That newsweek applauded. State was one of the best website is for for women's issues in this issue. So yes Got paley from solutions will shout out there. You go She could do up back in. Yeah wanted to jump back in. Because i was the person that knew nothing about guns. I didn't even know what the nra was when somebody brought it up in my first meeting. I'm like was that while. So that website for someone like me made it so simple to understand that issued that. That's why i got it yeah Yeah i Pretty important i think. For any non-fox. I've taught for a number of years at the university of pennsylvania at the annenberg school and i often bring scott into talk to my stew on nonprofit management and media advocacy and social change often bring scott in as a guest lecturer to talk about how to get it right. Okay so enough. Valentine's for mr kelly So the other thing. I heard in your comment. Donna is the connections right. And there's a there's two things i heard one made me think about malcolm glide well and the tipping point and he talks about three different kinds of people and of course. I'm gonna forget what the three are but it's like mavis connectors and when is it. The mavens connectors anyway. Okay i maybe somebody can. Maybe somebody can do it while we're while we're while we're while sales people i don't think said yes. It is mavens connectors in salespeople. Well all the time frozen moment you are connector right and and it also takes the The the the part is are you willing to make a cold call to someone you don't know right. And and what's the downside. If they don't take your call not a whole lot and there you can see with betty hudson. There's a hell of a lot of upside so there's a business term for growth. It's called the hockey. Stick your growing and then all of a sudden you your eyes get really wide and you think to yourself. Oh my gosh. This thing is actually going to take off. I wonder if there's a moment you remember when your eyes got wide like that and he thought oh. This is totally going to take off. Let's donna. I remember exactly the moment first of all. It was probably a couple of months after. I launched my march We were already a media sensation. I had no doubt about that. Mom's marching on washington. It was really created as a media gimmick to call attention to the issue and recruit people like me who wanted to volunteer for the movement So we were already in new york. Times were are on on the morning shows. We weren't cnn we were. We were immediate hits. But if you don't have real people and four hundred and thirty five congressional districts to do the legwork you really not a movement. The moment i knew we were movement was win. Michigan took off Michigan has a very tough state. I think realized recently with the anti massacres and the militias are the death. Threats against the governor's is very difficult to gun. Violence prevention michigan. But sure enough i Get a clipping from the detroit. Free press and i read about a woman i had never heard of printing was laurie and she cuisine worked in army munitions grants and she had created the state office for the michigan may among large at paint a payphone outside of a ladies room outside of her office and she called her senators congressman constantly. Insane you gotta get on board with us. We're gonna vote wild. And she called the then. Us senator spencer. Abraham abraham was michigan and said you gotta you gotta do something about guns. The kids gunshot loophole. Or we're going to vote you out of office and sheikha what happened with that. And we voted him out of office because eating do any bank But also in michigan. I forget if he stabbed stabbing. I'm sorry i didn't even talk. Go ahead no go ahead about that you know. In addition to voting out debbie stabenow in the us senate for twenty years. So so i think that moment for me for the hockey stick. When i knew at one when suddenly you have a state office in michigan at a pay outside of the ladies. Room that to me excess. Totally anything you wanted to add sheikha And for me. The the moment happened Only a few weeks after. I joined the minimum march and i was doing nothing but like just being there because i knew nothing about guns but a six year old was murdered by another six year. Old mount morris michigan And i was a mom of a one year old. And i never knew that got. The children could pull the trigger of a gun. I always thought up until then it was adults and so that night out so upset. I called the largest detroit radio station and said you wanna do something called me in gave out my phone number and my email and that night i was flooded with calls and emails and that was february. Sat did not end until mother's day and it actually continued beyond mother's day but it was nonstop. Both of you are talking about something. That's so important. I wanna i wanna highlight it so we don't lose it. Which is the power the media has to amplify your message And i love what she said. Donna that the march was an event right. But i think what you said. And as for funny ease gimmick right and I often thought you know having been an lgbt activists and run lgbt organization for decade. The i had my moments of standing outside a building with a bullhorn on some sort of platform. And i didn't imagine that i was the kind of Honestly i didn't imagine myself doing that. and once you really care about something it. It's it's amazing. What you're you know how you stretch but i also saw it. As you saw the million mom march i used to say that protests were just outdoor press conferences and as long as you get a decent sized crowd. You're fine. i made a million seven hundred. fifty thousand. People is more than a decent crowd. But i but i do lots the connections. You make as a nonprofit organization. The co- the relationships you cultivate with the media in your community are golden. Right and the that we've lived in a world for so long where all journalists get is some sort of a press release about your upcoming gala. And they don't care so Just keep listening as this story unfolds. I think there are so many nice nuggets of treasurer in here So success is is an interesting term right so you can measure by volume alone. This is a this was a complete grand slam but yourself down and just called it. Sort of a means to an ad right that the impact of the gathering is measured by. What happens after so when you think about The success of the march beyond the numbers of people who participated that day How do you characterize it and she to start with you Spoil six months right out the gate. We booted out. Spencer abraham in michigan and several other congressional representatives Were out of congress. And then in michigan we passed a referendum Which was later Taken down by the the conservative court read. I mean in michigan. We had three hundred thousand people sign a referendum but never happens in michigan so But in oregon in colorado they actually pass to stay each state referendums in each state And quite frankly that year we helped al gore. Get the popular vote. I mean bows the year from what happened. Al gore later was different story and then in that time also in california we went from a state that had tremendous numbers of gun debts and now in two thousand twenty because of the work. We've been doing since then. We have reduced gun death by fifty five percent and to me. That's a solid win and something we don't hear enough about right because that's that's that's the statistics that ignites hope in people right we long. We see the incidents. But we don't we don't see the you know. The the incidents get covered by the press but the trends or the percentage decrease not so much really figure that people such an accomplishment. That's such accomplishment. Really donald you want to do in a way in on that one success metrics afterwards and this was a you know what determined to be a success after the march for me it was laying the groundwork for grass rates. I had a goal of trying to recruit at least five moms and four hundred and thirty five congressional districts and because they really didn't have a solid grassroots base in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine two thousand their series activists gotten things done here and there but there had never been a national based on chapter based organization. And so we got up to maybe two hundred thirty six hundred thirty seven chapters going are right outside. The marge and many of those folks went on to to pass credible state legislation or stop really bad legislation. There's two houses in quite a few actually went and ran for congress and over the years. We've had quite a few people in office. And i make hark back to their days of myemma march martin. Warren is but to me that laid the groundwork for grass roots base in this country was is my metrics and i. They're fantastic metrics. Right is that is you gave people an opportunity to get off the couch. And you empowered them to recognize that they had agency and then you directed them and gave them. You invited them to use that agency Wherever you know when they went home And and i just. I think that's it's so important. The notion that i often talk about people equals power. And when i when. I talk with nonprofit leaders and we talk about. How do you grow your sphere of influence. It's not just about growing your donor base. It's about growing your volunteer base. It's back growing the number of journalists. Who know about you that that's power that's power doesn't come. Power comes from a pete from the people who know you know your work and want to be a part of it. I'm we're having a very interesting conversation. Was donna dees thomases. The founder of the million mom march. She is a force of nature has been sort of a nationally recognized leader and activists activist as glamour magazine described her And also has a professional background in communications with With cbs. I'm also here. was she a hamilton. Who's the national organizing and chapter development manager for the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. Who did not even know what the the initials n. r. a. stood for at the time she went to the million mom website so we could actually just say she can. Hamilton is an example of how you measure success after the million mom march and i was. I'm intrigued about. I was intrigued about this topic. Obviously for the the topic itself but really marches as vehicles and marches as igniting movements. And don i wanna ask you this question Let's talk about mom's all three of us are moms. And there is a is the word ferocity There's a ferocity about moms. But you were once quoted saying you need moms to have a movement. Tell me about that. The particularly in the gun. Violence prevention movement unique mother's Mainly because you constantly have to organize in this movement on you can burn. Burn people out very quickly and for the my mom march. We organized on clay grounds. While we turk it's play. We organized klay days. We organize it. The pediatrician's office and we were just natural organizers. By the fact that we were mom's not all stay at home moms and not all professionals remix. I mean i. I worked fine for the late show with david letterman. So when i would recruit on the playground on wednesday and thursday. And then on monday. Tuesday and friday. I recruited in the green room late show. Letterman are member. he's postcards and make brooms and ensure now some some moms liberty would call and say what is this all about and and this is this is to say nothing about dads because in this movement we have phenomenal. Dad's tried who really stand up to the gun violence issue a way. That's very powerful I really should name the like andy. Goddard whose son was injured in virginia tax. has been you know with movements since. Virginia tech Andy carter whose daughter was killed. She was a reporter on killed on live television. Cbs affiliates we have so many desperate Car glenn Mouser whose son daniel mauser thomas. Daniel mazar was killed at columbine. These are really phenomenal dads. They're not only great. Organize though they're amazing spokespeople for the movement And they're very knowledgeable about policy. And i love talking to them inspired by them. They're not organized in the same way moms do so again as part of that is about how the you you actually described gatherings right is that that moms gather yes Moms gather in a pretty unique way. Yeah so interesting interesting. Chew and we used to laugh about this. You know five women go to the ladies room together as of that you because you wanna chitchat. Gaza global error share will look sick. But you also safety measure. I think yemen Get together in groups to be safe. And i think for the gun battles prevention issue we do get a lot of death threats. We do harassment so for this issue. I think it was shingling. Horton's that women organized together that we feel safe around each other. And i think that was that's been during portent interest. Also feel like moms are doers. There's no time for You know just compartmentalizing have new organizing that. This is what we're gonna do we do it. It's just an instinct day. Think because we we multitask and we can. I think i was a multitask. Before i had my children reverse might do all this very. I would have to say not. Just mom's though women. I mean okay so for at least twenty years. I've been in this space. But i also get involved with other issues. Young women always lead. We are always in it. And i like i did some work at the detention center in texas and one of the staff people. There told me it's always the women that show up to help I run a membership site for board and staff leaders of small nonprofits Called the nonprofit leadership lab and Disproportionately the nonprofit leaders from the us. North america canada around the world english speaking countries. We'd have disproportionately have leaders. Now there's also there's also an issue about equity that comes into play there which is probably topic for another podcast episode but So very very interesting during covid lockdown. I took time from net flicks pinging to rewrite my book. Joan gary's guide to nonprofit leadership. 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Learn about the important work. They're doing and be inspired by their passion and determination to change the world in ways large and small sample this dose of hope at your nonprofit life dot com or you can find it on your favorite podcast app. Okay so Are there things you would have done differently. And i leave. That's code for. Did you make any mistakes. Donna wanna grab that one joan. I made so many mistakes. I wrote the book in two thousand four the guidebook so i could list most because i really wanted to. People should learn from us and there was no guidebook when i started in other folks on leadership but their books on gun prevention policy but there was no no book. That said. this is tiger here from here to there. When you're organizing on this issue. So i hope that guidebook has served others well but the. I'm so glad that you speak to you about this. Because i think you understand and i didn't have this in the book and i try when i'm always asked that question. What's the what's the biggest mistake using you may ask the march and four days after the march The million mom march merged with another nonprofit called belgium kane and the bell campaign was a fabulous nonprofit day. Some of them has helped successes of mothers against drunk driving. They had the keys excess for organizing beyond the march but the mistake we did with the merger. They decided to drop their name. The bell campaign and became the minimum march and we were two different cultures are dna was different. The belt campaign. dna was different than the million man march today. And and i try and explain this in other settings but people who do not understand the difference between five. Oh one c. Three and five. Oh one c. Four right and had the bill campaign kept its name it would still be a thriving five. Oh one c. Three today we had if we had been the five. Oh one c. Four we would have been the ones more on the lines would be advocacy but trying to mix the two it was. I can't even explain how this force of nature of these mothers trying to get things done very quickly. And then you had very responsible methodical. People assume what you can't do that with the seats rate. You can't do that before. But i think we just kept our names. In our own cultures we could have co existed as great merger moving forward but we end up collapsing financially. We were too big and we had. We did not have the infrastructure for what they had a place and then ultimately that led to our merged with the brady organization. So i i guess. I'm not sure that i would what i actually qualify it as a mistake. i'll let you qualify. I'll let you characterize it as you see fit but i will tell you that A model of a terrific merger is hard to find for exactly. The reasons that you described is often. They're not really mergers they're actually acquisitions. There's a stronger player. A weaker player. Often there is an ego involved in terms of board members and ceo's depending on the size so there are many things that th award the potential success of a merger. And i find that sad and as we move into twenty twenty one at something. I think a lot about in terms of the nonprofit sector and what needs to be different when we get when we get to the other side of the pandemic that i do think that there there are opportunities for mergers in the sector that may be thwarted because they are not done well or they are the the reason to come together is actually not something where everybody's on the same page at the whole would be greater than the sum of the parts So anyway i just want to let you off the hook a little bit and just say that even if it had been an ideal marriage they're hard to pull off. Well i say the you know. The best advised people get after loss of a loved one or a major life. Edge is waiting year before making a major decision. Yeah because you're not in the right space and I made that decision to merge four days after the march and the name change happened. When i was in the middle of lobbying for the childproof handgun. Bill here's the in trenton. And so i think we had taken that one year. I think would have been a better merger because they really these these. I think those folks at the bell campaign put together the chapter structure that still survives today the brady organization so it wasn't a disaster and again i don't know would even exist in the same way. Had we had not had that partnership. But now i think we should have taken that year before we finalized anything and then i think it'd been a hindsight also. Let's also remember your hardwired journalists. Write your hardwired as like move to. Let's go let's go right. And that's what made you most excellent at mobilizing. You know all of these people to do this thing right. A sustainable organization over a period of time often requires a very different kind of gestalt in somebody and it. It's possible that that that that you know it's sort of like when i was at mtv. The a i was there for the launch of mtv and nineteen eighty-one and the founder of em tv and the person who ended up being seen as the that the person most responsible are two different people and the founder of mtv was very much a entrepreneur. And the you know the ultimate ceo was somebody who could build and grow a business and the and it's important to know what you're good at and to just do that right so So just a few other questions before we Before the clock runs out on us at clearly she could. You have stayed in the game since the march by virtue of just reading your bio Let's start with you. what are you. What are you proud of in the past twenty years since the million mom march in terms of your own accomplishments. Let's let's let's go to donna. Gosh so many well. Because i started in this movement in detroit and At that time detroit head one of the highest gun death rates for children and so during that time what i always remember most is when we were the loudest gun debts for going down and the more we stayed actives gun deaths would go down and when we when we get quiet or it would go up so it was keeping that the message out there. was really critical. And i mean we even got the the detroit. Free press in detroit news to close the newspaper loophole. Which was they used to sell guns in the paper and they stop that But beyond that. I mean in michigan reese to stop. Stop bad gun bills. We stopped the stand. Your the mus. Stand your ground bill back in. I think two thousand five to two thousand six. That was a battle and then later in the middle of the night couple years later they passed it. That's how the republican legislature worked at michigan. But it beyond that. I mean we've had we have current minimum marchers in congress Madeleine dean mary. Gays and land. Debbie dingle marine newman of illinois An in state houses across the country in virginia. We have the first female speaker of the virginia house. The delegates i lean foreign But last but not. Least i would say chris brown the president of radi. The first female president of brady is a million mt marcher And she worked on the brady bill when she was younger So and in california. I already told you i mean we have has enormous amount of gun safety legislation that has has real results of reducing gun debt. So there's a lot to be proud of. I think in over the years And we have activists that are still emit like lori. That donna mentioned from the munitions land she still in it and the mothers from the jewish community center shooting. That donna mentioned. They're still in it. so johnnie created to me and done never takes credit for anything but she created many of the activists from that time. That are still in it. Say she gave us all voice. Yup and that's how i feel too. I mean it's like why would have gotten involved in gun. violence prevention. Nobody in my family ever owned a gun. I mean i had no no connection to the issue. She gave me that. Does your that's a lot to be proud of an eye. The image that comes to my mind as i think about the million mom march and feels like we sell at short. Call it a gimmick there don. But i think of it as a big pebble you through into a pond and what she could just described worthy Enormous the is the enormous ripple effect that it had What would You want to ask the same question to you is. What are you proud of in these past. Twenty years since donna. My background in communications media is couple relations. And i'm i'm most comfortable promoting someone else but for most of my cry been paid for milk men. I get paid to promote the guys although well deserving people dan rather letterman schieffer. All people is very proud to work for you. Bet might volunteer. Pro bono workers promote women in this movement and i guess so proud so chic what she's accomplished on. She is like a dean of the chapters. Everyone goes to sheikh. They have a question about you. Know grassroots in the movement When i leave their corn was named the first female speaker of the virginia house of delegates. I had so many people because she started with my mom march and so every time i hear about Sold who's run for office in some sometimes when they don't win who cares. They have encouraged to to ron. I'm very proud about that and I don't know i. I see so many accomplishments. I know a lot of organizations that exist now. Sometimes their mothers were involved in march. I just proud -ccomplish. You've you unlocked something in people that has has fed them and fuelled them. I mean reno. I can just listening voice that The the you know to to live of life of meaning and purpose sometimes someone has to invite you and you through a hell of a party. So so it's it's it's tough to think about gun violence and at how much it's still grips the country. No doubt that we've got some listeners. Who are in the trenches with boots on the ground on gun safety issues and so what. What message do you have an start with sheikha. And then we'll end with donna What message do you have for. Folks who are whose boots are on the ground On the on the issue of gun violence and You know what what gives what gives you hope Staying in the game. You can't look for instant gratification. Look hell -fornia the twenty years that it took to reduce gun. Death look at virginia virginia for twenty years. They couldn't do anything but little by little. They ended up loading in Gun safety candidates in office 'em right out the gate they pass seven gun. Safety bills mean bats. Tom talking about staying in the game and just keeping at it. I mean we have volunteers there too. That have been doing this for twenty years so it's not looking for the instant gratification. It's looking at the long term game. And secondly i would say a paying attention to your volunteers. If if you're nonprofit has volunteers. I think what we did brady started out with no chapters. No volunteers and then minimum march was. Were the ground game. Right right hoots on the power and be because brady was dc organization. It used to be that you know. Here's what you need to do what you need to do. But slowly over time radio also learned that wow. Our volunteers are pretty sharp. They know what's going on in their communities and states. We need to listen to them and so now brady has actually slipped into an organization that asks their volunteers. What do you wanna do in your state will be what to do in your community and it's because of the volunteers that brady was one of the first national organizations that backed us all weapons ban. I mean that that. Is you know a evolution so To me those two things are most important. If for nonprofit. I'll give you the last word. On what gives you hope gives me hope I think i am constantly inspired by people who volunteer but deteriorate the leaders that emerged from the march for our lives. They stepped up immediately. These very young people sixteen seventeen eighteen years old. I wanna cry just talking about them. And so proud of the leaders in the nonprofit world that you know it's it's lead follow or get out the way a lot of the leaders in the space of guns prevention. Some of them just literally got up the way to help these. Just let the kids lead. Some some of the young people needed help and they got the hell And i think. I think the movement has always been diverse but i think young leaders have really made an effort to make sure that we spotlight the first sitting of the movement and i think shamed us a little bit into it. There's there's always been black women and women of color who've done the heavy lifting on this issue but i think shakily march for our lives. I'm just surprised who they are. I say the movement has hope because they have a ride. I hurt for how they had to get here. Yes kirkland but they're here and they're in for a long long game on the road yeah we'll see now as no it's a long haul. I mean right. I i think the the you know. There's a big couple big takeaways here as we close out One is If you if you feel an urge to well. I'm speaking to the choir here locking nonprofit leaders but you know if you if you get a call or email from somebody who says you know. I've been sitting on the couch. But i'd actually like to get off the couch and help you grab them. Grab him and so she can point. Ask them how they want to be involved. Ask them what you make sure. Their voice has agency. So that's one thing. I definitely heard i definitely heard that You know there are people who the the million mom march was twenty years ago and what we heard. Today is the story not so much of the event but that that it was a tool a vehicle it was a means to an end to populate a movement that has found its way into state houses and to house of representatives and has changed legislation at at levels low and high and and that it is actually fueling a new generation of leaders as well and who bring a different kind of world view and a different kind of energy. That will only enhance the work. Right we'll all be richer for that diversity of perspective and age And that what. All of you know really really well. I mean i ran and lgbt organization or whatever it is that you advocate for. It's always a marathon it's never a sprint. And you want a lot of people in your mouth right because you want to ignite as many you want to invite as many people to have an opportunity. Like what donna created twenty years ago pure unadulterated gift to those people who said yes. And that's a lovely lovely thing to be able to say you did. And so i just really wanted to say to donna. And sheikha that There's so many interesting and rich takeaways from our discussion today And it is you know real cheesy to say that a you know an individual can make a difference but it is true Sometimes they sometimes they bounce right off. The couch. Like donna did and sometimes they need to be invited in the combination. Turned out to be quite something so She thank you. So much and donna So grateful for your work Our families are all safer and As a result. And i can't thank you enough for for joining us sheikh up. Thank you so much for having us. Yeah well it's a story to tell and and i think the last takeaway here and i wanna just bang it really wanna bang the drum hard because i also came out of the media business as well If there is a if you know there's a there's a takeaway here about volunteers. I want you to really be thinking hard about and there's also a takeaway by journalists Whatever you whatever issue you you cover The that your organization covers. There's probably three or four different beats that journalists the journalists in your community newspapers or you know social media cover make that list cultivate steward. Offer them an idea of a story right so that when you need them they will be there for you and and don't hesitate don't assume they will be interested in you up. See if you can give them something. They need them. they'll be yours forever So there's a bunch of jewels in this. I hope you I hope you found this interesting. And inspiring and Yeah thanks for being part of the The nonprofit sector and the marathon. We are together. And here's hoping that donna. And she gives story has lifted you up and reminded you that the work that you do is remarkable. I'll see you next time. Thanks for spending time with me today. I hope you found the conversation. Valuable as you navigate the messy world of nonprofits. Check out all my other resources at joke. Gary dot com. Hokey find them helpful to lastly. Thanks for the work you do to repair the world in ways large and small.
24 - The Eggnog Riot
"I never grew up with eggnog as a traditional christmas drink. Living in the southern hemisphere in africa of all places out christmases were hot and usually spent in the pool so now we gravitated towards cooler more refreshing drinks to quench overheating bodies. But i am also no stranger to the concept of eggnog. From hollywood movies and tv shows in today's story. However what begins as just a little bit of seasonal fun ends with smashed windows banisters ripped from stairways and military barracks surrounded by rubble in a state of near ruin by the end. I'll cost of characters in a serious amount of trouble and surprisingly amongst them was a student who would one day become a future. President of the united states confederacy and all of this carnage was caused by eggnog. Welcome to the fantastic history of food strange but true stories from history that in some way involve food. I'm your host. Nick charlie key. Today's podcast is presented by polka. Polka is the easiest way for you to monetize your cost providing podcast is just like yourself with a flat rate for ad space. So you always know how much you get when you include an ad from podcastone. Exactly what i'm doing right now. Apply today to become a member and immediately be connected with advertisers that fit your audience that's Dot co at p. o. d. g. o. dot c. b. Should add this podcast. Fantastic his food in the. How did you hear about pogo. Section of the application west point military academy is a well known and well respected institution not just in america but around the world. It's known for producing well trained graduates. Who more often than not go on to achieve great things. But it didn't start out that way however it first opened its doors in eighteen o two and at the time. It was a rather sorry sight. Ten cadets three teachers and a few ramshackle buildings all there was to distinguish west point from the surrounding landscape. At the time there was no order and no real structure to speak of cadets could join as when they please throughout the year and by all accounts the standards for admission was shockingly low just ten years today history. The war of eighteen twelve broke out and america began. Its fight against great britain as they sought to expand their territory further. Needless to say it was a less than convincing display by their military. This convinced congress to overhaul the west point academy and they threw money at the project in order to turn things around. Part of their plan was to bring in a new superintendent to oversee the running of the academy. They needed a no nonsense individual with strict moral and ethical codes and before long just the man they were looking for. Colonel silvana stare took over the running of the campus in the year. Eighteen seventeen and before long. He had made his strict and foreboding presence. Felt in every corner of the institution. He's soon became known as the father of west point and instituted a set of strict rules. He expected all under his charge to obey cadets prohibited from leaving the academy grounds without permission. They were no longer allowed to cook in their dorms. And dealing of any kind was outlawed. He also modified their diet to a daily ration of beef bread and water to prepare them for real military rations. When one day they found themselves in the field he banned all forms of alcohol on campus. But he made a specific exception for just two days a year the fourth of july and christmas in eighteen twenty five however eight years into his time at west point the fourth of july celebrations devolved into a raucous party in which the cadets kidnapped the school commandant and carried him on their shoulders around the campus singing and yelling as they went when thera found out he was irate and from that day on he banned alcohol entirely on the campus. Anyone found with alcohol no matter how small could be arrested or even expelled. But an oklahoma ban wasn't going to stop the deaths from finding a loophole. Alcohol had only been banned on the campus itself. And they just happened to be to nearby towns located just outside the walls of west point while technically the cadets will also prohibited from leaving the campus as long as they weren't coats all they had a sympathetic commanding officer. Turn a blind eye. Denise heavens would serve as a place for cadets to blow off steam with friends enjoy a warm meal that wasn't beef and bread based and most importantly for all of them drink themselves into a stupor of the two taverns one named the north tavern. And the other named benny haven it was the latter of these two. That had an interesting method of settling student drinking debts for those cadets weren't flush with cash. Benny haven allowed them to barter. Their shoes or even their blankets in exchange for oklaho- as an interesting side note it was here at beni haven that a certain edgar allan poe would spend the vast majority of his time while i've west point in fact he spent so much time they that it eventually led to him being kicked out of the academy off the just one year just one year later in the lead up to christmas. A group of students began hatching a plan to throw a raging christmas eve party. They were certain they could somehow keep it a secret from the commanding offices but they desperately needed a large quantity of the one thing outlawed on the campus alcohol. They plan wasn't just a drink stuff needs or no. They wanted to get into the christmas spirit and so the central theme of their plan was to make an enormous mixture of that holiday. Classic eggnog in today's society. Eggnog isn't necessarily made with alcohol especially not the stuff. That's commercially available. In the grocery stores those mixtures are simply eggs milk cream sugar and spices. Family friendly version of the drink that found its origins from a hot milk. Punch known as part now posit was away for innkeepers to use their expired. Ails all curdled wines by mixing them into warmed moke and serving in large punch bowls as a way to mosque. The flavors in eggnog earliest days during the medieval era was only really enjoyed by the upper classes as access to the key. Ingredients of fresh milk was scared and also expensive but by the time it had made its way across to america. It was more widely enjoyed by the general population. This was all due to coming together of a few different agricultural productions and trades to make the combination possible dairy farms had boomed in the colonies and the production from the so called triangle. Trade meant that sugar and rum were also widely available. The terrible third point of that triangle trade was the abominable mass importation of slaves from africa. To make all of that production possible with the abundance of sugar milk and ram these ingredients became staples in the making of eggnog and gave its drinkers. Buzz also warming up the insides in fact the seasonal buzz was such a big part of the experience that george washington himself had a famous recipe for it. That not only added rum but also included sherry brandy and whiskey for good measure but back to west point. We go and we find ourselves in the midst of a plan to make christmas eve. Eighteen twenty six a night to remember. The cadets had hatched a few ingenious plans to sneak out of the academy purchase bought or trade for copious amounts of liquor and smuggle it back onto the base from the nearby taverns one of the cadets involved in the plot already had a reputation for bad behavior when it came to alcohol. He was in fact. The very first student of the academy to ever be arrested for going to benny haven on one occasion upon finding out that a superior was on their way to catch cadets at seven he ran back towards the campus to avoid capture. He was so drunk however that he wasn't quite paying careful attention to his surroundings and in his inebriated state fell down a sixty foot ravine. His friends was sure that he did but after hearing him call out for help. They couldn't believe there is or indeed his luck they manage to extricate him from the ravine and he spent a time recovering in hospital. So just who was this rule is cadet none other than future confederate. President jefferson davis after his recovery. He was one of the central figures in the now growing christmas eve. Alcohol smuggling plot their first port of call was to favorite tavern. Benny haven but it proved to be far too expensive for them to buy the quantities. They were looking for after this setback but still with a few nights to go before the plant party three cadet stole a canoe and rode it across the hudson river to the eastern shore to try and buy some whiskey from a lesser attended tavern known simply as martin's across the river had worked up a thirst in the cadets and so they spent some time knocking back a few losses before attempting to re cross the river with their contraband in tow halfway across the river as they were approaching the duck they noticed and already enlisted soldiers standing guard. It was mere seconds before spotted them but they had nowhere else to go and didn't want to risk capsizing the canoe and losing all of the expensive whiskey as they approached the dock they shouted for the god not to raise the alarm as it was just some cadets coming back to base he was suspicious of their intentions and was about to search their bags when they offered him a whopping thirty five cents to something the other way and forget that he ever saw them. This was apparently more than enough for the god. And he happily turned on his heels and left the cadets to unload their cargo in peace the containers were quickly offloaded and hurried back to the barracks to be stored in hidden amongst their own personal items. All this nighttime crossing had gone to them. More than four gallons of high quality whisky other cadets had been tossed with gathering the rest of the ingredients and in total four groups of cadets had at various times over the preceding days abandoned their posts to sneak off to fulfill their mandates. The second group came back with a gallon of brandy and a gallon of wine. Another with a gallon of rum and the third with the requisite eggs milk and nutmeg to round off. The ignored mixture. Now superintendent fare wasn't an idiot. He knew that the cadets had in the past smuggled alcohol onto the campus and whenever they record there would be dealt with accordingly. He had a sneaking suspicion that with the christmas holidays approaching. The kids might try to do something similar but never in his wildest dreams did he imagined the scale of what was about to be unleashed upon his academy. He discussed the potential issues of a few drunk students with colleagues but wasn't overly concerned about getting out of hand as such. He appointed just two offices to oversee the barracks on the night of the twenty fourth. Captain ethan allen hitchcock and lieutenant william a photon. The two men did they rounds and satisfied that nothing untoward going on retired today rooms around midnight. This was what the cadets had been waiting for. and as soon as captain hitchcock closed his. Door the eggnog party got underway in dorm room number. Twenty eight in the north barracks. It started small enough with just nine men in attendance but as word spread that it was showtime that numbers gradually increased in size until they were too many cadets and room twenty eight and some left to start another party in room number five it was this subsidiary party that included jefferson davis around one. Am just an hour into the reverie and some of the cadets wanted even more booze so a man named fairly quickly dotted out of the barracks and ran all the way to the nearest heaven reappearing a short while later. Never gallon of whiskey by two. Am the party at number five had grown so loud that another of division superintendents by the name of charles whipple came to see what was causing the commotion as he entered the room. He was confronted by davis and seven other cadets arm in arm singing at top of their lungs. He tried his best to quell the noise but often exchanging a few heated words davis and the others. He realized he was powerless to stop it and returned to his room. The two separate parties continue to grow louder and more rocus done and alcohol worked its way deep into the cadet systems. The mobile legitimate came at four. Am kevin hitchcock was awoken by the sound of loud voices from the floor above him and it was enough to make him get out of bed and investigate. What was going on. He followed the noise until it let him to room number twenty eight with the first of the two parties at started as he was making his way he passed a man from the first party making his way to the second one in room number five cadet tried to act nonchalant if he had gotten up to use the bathroom and as soon as he was passed. Hitchcock ran to report today in the revelers in room. Five that the captain was on patrol. Jefferson davis who by now was well lubricated. Not thinking particularly clearly pulled off a scene you might find in almost every ninety s sitcom raced down the hall to room. Twenty eight and barged in shouting. Put away the grog chaps. Old hitchcock is coming and as the sitcom camera pans the left we see captain. Hitchcock has not only already in the room but this was now the very last straw in room twenty eight. He had found six cadets drunk from the eggnog to others passed out on a bed. Seeing davis jin. He knew that they were more of them elsewhere. In the building he woke the to sleeping cadets and order them back to their rooms following the noise to the party in room number five. He ended to find too drunk cadets attempting to hide from him under a blanket while sitting upright on a bid another drunken did stood in the corner covering his face with the hat hoping the captain might not spot him and would hopefully confuse him with a hat stand. Hitchcock demanded that the hat stands show his face but simply shook his head and continue to remain still in the corner. Hitchcock was by now. Seething and began berating all of the cadets in his presence. At this point the alcohol in the men's systems gave a bravado they might not otherwise have had a cadet by the name of williams took exception to being scolded and stepped in front of the captain. In a show of defiance hitchcock continued. His tirade unfitted flex of angry spit landing all over the face of the bush. Weems the captain finished by reading the cadets the actual riot act which declared that any group of twelve or more men unlawfully assembled constituted a riot and they would therefore all under arrest right now they needed to go back to their rooms and the matter would be dealt with in the morning with that he spent his he'll and he marched back to his own room satisfied that this was the end of it and he had quashed the disturbance for good. As the sound of the captain's doors slamming rang out dom holes all is focused on the seething williams who began shouting. Get your knives bayonets pistols if you have them before this night is over. Hitchcock will be dead. What just a few moments ago had been enjoyable party full of merriment had now turned dark and angry. The cadets youthful vigor now fueled by alcohol began to turned to rage as the feelings of anger swept through the assembled cadets. The eggnog riot was now in full swing. A group of men went outside and began throwing rocks through hitchcock's windows smashing the glass while others threw rocks and wooden logs at his bedroom door. It was now the turn of lieutenant thornton to attempt to break up the commotion but it was too little too late. The anger cadets would now. An unstoppable train careening headfirst into the lone figure of lieutenant thornton. One of the rights has pulled out a sword and began to threaten thornton. About what would happen. If he stood in their way thornton told the man he was under arrest but then quickly left the scene as he was exiting the north barracks. Where the party's at started. He now heard a commotion going on in the south barracks and started on his way to investigate while he was on his way there. One of the cadets from room twenty eight who had been yelled at by thornton earlier crept up behind and hit him in the head with a piece of wood knocking him out. Cold hitchcock now realized that things had swiftly gotten out of hand and he stormed out of his room to find that. Some of the men had barricaded themselves into a room. He pushed at the door. Feeling it move a little and followed it up with a swift kick as this was happening. One of the cadets inside had begun loading pistol as the doors flung open. He pointed the pistol directly at hitchcock and fired but just as he pulled the trigger. One of the other men accidentally bumped his arm and luckily for hitchcock the bullet fired skew lodging itself into the door frame. It was at this point that the captain realized he was going to need backup. Jefferson davis had by now retired to his own room and drunkenly fallen asleep. His recollection from this point on was that at some point off to it. He was awoken by his roommate. Who had come into the room looking for more ammunition with which to load his pistol. Hitchcock sent a nearby god to call the commandant of cadets to assist him in quelling the ensuing rebellion. Someone overheard him and in a classic case of broken telephone began spreading a rumor that the captain had called for the auxiliary division to storm the building as his backup. This was the most egregious insult to the cadets who hated the tillery men and so they began taking pistols rifles and any other weapon. They could find in order to defend their barracks. Of course the artillerymen never showed up. But what did begin to happen. Was that the rest of the cadets. In the barracks who hadn't taken part in the festivities had now had enough and formed a mob that began attacking the rioters as the battle wind on the men. Grab anything they could fight with. Crockery was thrown around and smashed against walls. Or some cadets toll the banister part to use the would as makeshift clubs a sentinel who been on watch outside. The barracks entered the building to see what was going on and upon stumbling into one of the dorm rooms found two men mumbling incoherently about needing a drum and flute. The sentinel was puzzled but left the room without saying a word. By this time it was nearing six. Am when the traditional ravelli was played on a bugle to wake the cadets up and have them assemble for inspection the drunken mob was still trying their best to recruit this sober friends to join them in the riott meet with great success. Six am rolled around and the bugles sounded the rebellion amongst chorus of shouts smashing crockery. And the sounds of breaking glass. A few of the cadets actively ignored the coal and chose to stay in their rooms drinking while the large number of drunken mob realized the riot was more than likely now over and dragged themselves to the parade ground almost forty percent of the cadets take part in the previous night struck shen and now feeling the ill effects of no sleep and a deadly hangover. When word reached superintendents of honest there he was incensed. He demanded a full list of names of every man who had partaken in the ride and a description of the level to which they were involved. He couldn't stand to face them in that day and sent them away to their tasks. Warning them the judgment would becoming once. The proper investigations had taken place over the course of the next month. He heard testimony from one hundred. Sixty seven men about the incident and then compiled a complete overview of exactly what had taken place that night they settled on around seventy cadets who had taken part in the riots but fail was hesitant to prosecute all of them as it would reflect poorly on his leadership as well as on the discipline of the academy instead. He's elected the worst offenders those who had smuggled in alcohol those who had incited the riots and those who threaten violence against their superiors. These men were immediately expelled from the academy. Luckily for jefferson davis to his decision to comply with the original orders and retire to his room to sleep he managed to escape a court martial and came through the whole ordeal relatively unscathed. He was however placed under house arrest for six weeks along with twenty two other men as punishment in another coincidental twist confederate civil war. General robert e lee also happened to be on the campus that night during the riot but he was tucked away in the south barracks choosing not to partake in the commotion. And so next time you take a sip of eggnog. Take a moment to remember the time. When the now infamous eggnog right. Otherwise known as the grog mutiny almost resulted in the collapse of the famed west. Point the kademi. Thank you for listening to this episode of the fantastic history of food. If you'd like to get in touch you can find us on twitter at food. History pod as well as checking out our facebook page if you enjoyed this episode. I really appreciate you taking a moment to rate the show on apple podcasts. Or whatever platform you listened and if you can leave a review as well i also have a patriotic company but you can support the show and get access to exclusive content bonus. Episodes can even the chance to choose the topic for an upcoming episode. The own of this is only for our patriots subscribers. 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News in Brief 2 February 2021
"This is the news in brief from the united nations. The covid nineteen pandemic has had a profound impact on cancer. Diagnosis and treatment. Globally the u. n. health agency said on tuesday. Fifty percent of the government's survey have had cancer services partially or completely disrupted because of the pandemic said dr andrea it'll bowie from the world. Health organization department of noncommunicable diseases delays in diagnosis have become common and interruptions in therapy or abandonment of treatment have increased significantly the. Who official told journalists in geneva adding that this would likely have an impact on the total number of cancer. Deaths in coming years as professionals have been great stress to deliver services and their significant reduction in research and clinical trial rome simply the consequences at dynamic on cancer. Control efforts have been profound. Although countries of all income levels have been affected. Dr ilbo said that wealthy nations including the netherlands had counted the pandemic's impact on cancer. Care with special programs offering speedier access to diagnosis and treatment for those displaying symptoms and alert over potential crimes against humanity in eastern democratic republic of the congo drc after the un rights office. Oh eight hr said that. It has been appalled by spike in attacks against civilians there. The warning issued on tuesday specifically cited one armed group the democratic forces. Atf operating in cheery province as well as beni territory in north kivu province. But oh hcc said that it was also concerned about human rights violations and violations of international humanitarian law by security and defence forces in the drc spokesperson motherhood explained why the human rights office believed that the armed group was potentially guilty of such serious international crimes. Why we are saying that because they are widespread and systematic and they're being consistent and they are targeting the civilian population. You can say that these crimes could amount if we're going in a court to crimes against humanity. According to a new report by the you enjoy human rights office in the country at least eight hundred and forty. Nine civilians were killed last year in the areas of concern in attacks by the f. The report also documents serious violations by security and defence forces during operations against competence with twenty two civilians killed in the first half last year. Nine women and twelve children sexually abused and eighty-one arrested arbitrarily finally to career commonly referred to as north korea. Where human rights chief. Michelle basch light has called for new efforts to seek justice for victims of gross human rights. Violations tuesday's call by the high commissioner for human rights comes as hell office published a new report indicating that serious crimes including torture and enslavement unlikely. Still being committed inside the country's prisons bright's office. Hgh also that it had received consistent and credible accounts of these systematic infliction of severe physical and mental pain or suffering upon detainees in the ordinary prison system. These may amount to the crime against humanity of torture. Chr said adding that prisoners were beaten forced into stress positions for prolonged periods and subject to psychological abuse forced labor and starvation. The un report also reiterates a lack of progress on the urgent need to establish the truth and ensure accountability cases of abductions and enforced disappearances of ethnic koreans japanese nationals and others since the korean war until today lasting peace on the korean peninsula can be achieved only if such violations and and the rights of victims to truth. Justice reparations and guarantees of non-recurrence are fulfilled. The report noted daniel. Johnson you're news.
"Hello from Wonder Media Network. I'm Jenny Kaplan. And this is encyclopedia Lamonica. Today's leader was one of the few female fan and each in Egypt and one of its most successful pharaohs overall ruling for over twenty years. She led Egypt through a period of prosperity completed ambitious building projects and increased trade with surrounding lands. She sometimes called the first great woman of history. Let's talk about huts ships. Hatshepsut was born in around fifteen o seven BC to the Eighteenth Dynasty Addiction. King Tut most of the first and his primary wife very little known about her early childhood around the age of twelve hotshot so it was married to her half brother. Tet moves to the second who was a younger son of Hatshepsut's father and his secondary wife cut most of the second had three older brothers authors. So he wasn't originally next in line for the throne but each of his older brothers died before coming of age as the eldest living son of most of the first. 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Amon Ray in thieves a full remodeling of her father's hall and the addition addition of her own shrine at the Great Karnak temple complex and a beautiful temple cut out of rock at Beni Hasan among others hut ships. Greatest building chief of all was the year up a hurry temple. It was meant to serve as a living memorial temple that would continue to be used by her subjects after her death breath for her actual burial spot hardships. It added onto her father's tomb in the Valley of the Kings so she could be buried next to him as Hutch. Upset that older. She gave her co ruler. Tut Most of a third more power and a larger role in state government after Hatshepsut died around fourteen eighteen fifty eight BC Tut. Most of the third ruled alone for more than thirty years. During his rule. He tried hi to remove all traces of shops. Its existence here moved statues of her and Ethan wiped her name off. The official list of Egyptian kings. Modern scholars originally thought that this must have been an act of revenge. But it's now believe that it probably had more to do with cleaning up the line of succession. It's worth noting that other pharaohs did similar things to their predecessors including scrubbing building inscriptions and claiming the buildings as their own because of this campaign of erasure. Racer hardships it became essentially unknown to history until eighteen. Twenty two when the newfound ability to understand hieroglyphics finally allowed archaeologists theologists and scholars to read descriptions at her temple and rediscover this incredible. Pharaoh tune in tomorrow for the story of of another leader. This week of Encyclopedias. Monica is brought to you by the great courses says plus to learn more about ships it. I highly recommend checking out the great courses plus course called history of ancient Egypt. 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Manual of Egyptian Archaeology and Guide to Antiquities, Reading 2
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The Nile here is the natural highway for purposes of commerce and the pathways which intersect the fields suffice for foot passengers for cattle and for the transport of goods from village to village ferry boats for crossing the river fords wherever the canals were shallow enough and banked dams thrown up here and there where the water was too deep for four weddings completed. The system of internal communication bridges. Were rare up to the present time we know of put one in the whole territory of Ancient Egypt and whether that one was long or short built of stone or of wood supported on arches or boldly flung across the stream from bank to bank. We cannot even conjecture this bridge close under the very walser. Rue crossed the canal which separated the eastern frontier of Egypt. From the desert regions of Arabia Tra a fortified enclosure protected this canal on the Asiatic side as shown in the accompanying illustration the maintenance of public highways which figures his so costly. An item in the expenses of modern nations played therefore but a very small part in the annual disbursements of the Pharaohs who had only to provide for the due execution of three great branches of government works namely storage irrigation mining and quarrying the taxation of ancient. Egypt was levied in kind and government. Servants were paid after the same system. To- Workman there were monthly distributions of corn oil and wine wherewith to support their families while from end to end the social scale each functionary. In exchange for his Labor received cattle stuff's manufactured goods and certain quantities of copper or precious metals. Thus it became necessary that the treasury officials should happen command a fast storehouses for the safekeeping of the various goods collected under the head of taxation. These were classified and stored in separate quarters. Each storehouse being surrounded by walls and guarded by vigilant keepers. There were enormous stabling for cattle. There were sellers where the Infora were piled in regular layers or hung in rows upon the walls each with the date written on the side of the jar there. We're oven shaped granaries where the corn was poured in through a trap at the top and taken out through a trap at the bottom at Duke identified with Pathum by monsieur nephew. The store chambers are rectangular and of different dimensions originally divided by floors and having no communication with each other here the corn had to be not only put in but taken out to the aperture at the top at the Ramesseum in thieves. Thousands of Straka and jar stoppers found upon the spot proof that the brick built remains at the back of the temple or the sellers of the local deity. The ruins consist of a series of faulted numbers originally surmounted by a platform or terrace. At few elbows Daphne and most of the frontier towns of the Delta there were magazines of this description and many more will doubtless be discovered. When made the object of serious exploration? The irrigation system of Egypt is but little changed since the olden time some new canals have been cut and yet more have been silted up through the of those in power but the general scheme and the methods employed continue much the same and demand but little engineering scale wherever I have investigated the remains of ancient canals. I have been unable to detect any traces of masonry at the weak points. Or at the mouths of these cuttings they are mere excavated ditches from twenty to sixty or seventy feet in when the earth flung out during the work was thrown to right and left forming irregular embankments from seven to fourteen feet in height the course of the ancient canals was generally straight but that rule was not strictly observed and enormous curves are often described in order to avoid even slight irregularities of surface dykes thrown up from the foot of the cliffs to the bags of the Nile divided the plane at intervals into a series of artificial basins where the overflow formed backwaters at the time of inundation. These dykes are generally earthworks. Though they are sometimes constructed of baked brick as in the province of gear. Gay Very Rarely Arlene built up hewn stone like that great dyke of Co sheesh which was constructed by Meena in Primeval Times in order to divert the course of the Nile from the spot on which he founded Memphis the network of canals began near seal. Seal is and extended to the seaboard without ever losing touch up the river save it once spot near Beni Suef where it throws out a branch in the direction of the Fayoum here through a narrow and sinuous gorge deepened. Probably by the hand of man it passes the rocky barrier which divides that Lo Mein province from the Valley of the Nile and thence expands into a fan like ramification of a numeral channels. Having this era gated the district the water flows out again those nearest the Nile returning by the same way that they floated in while the rest form a series of lakes the largest of which is known as the Birkett Alka Rhone. If we are to believe Herodotus the work was not so simply done a king named Mo Harris desire to create a reservoir in the fire which should neutralize the evil effects of insufficient or super abundant inundations. This reservoir was named after him like Aris. If the supply fell below the average then the stored waters were let loose and Lower Egypt and the western Delta or flooded to the needful height if next year the inundation came down into great force like mowers received and stored the surplus till such time as the waters began to subside. Two Pyramids each surmounted by a sitting colossus one representing the King and the other. His Queen erected in the midst of the lake. Such is the tale told by Herodotus and it is a tale which has considerably embarrassed our modern engineers and topographers. How in fact was it possible to find in the firearm? A site which could have contained a basin measuring at least ninety miles in circumference lanotte supposed unlike Morris to have extended over the whole off the low lying land which skirts the Libyan cliffs between Ila whom and Medina Al Fayoum butter recent explorations have proved that the dykes by which this pretended reservoir was bounded. Our modern works erected probably within the last two hundred years. Major Brown has lately shown that the nucleus of Lake Morris was the Birkat out Karoon. This was known to the Egyptians. As Myrie Mir Ori- the Great Lake whence the Greeks arrived there. Mu Yuris a name extended also to the inundation of the Fayoum if Herodotus did actually visit this province it was probably in summer at the time of the High Nile when the whole distract presents the appearance of an inland sea what he took for the shores of this lake or the embankments which divided into basins and activists highways between the various towns. His narrative repeated by the classic authors has been accepted by the moderns and Egypt. Neither accepting nor rejecting. It was gratified long after date with the reputation of gigantic work. Which would in truth have been the glory of her civil engineers. If it had ever existed I do not believe that alike Morris ever did exist. The only works of the kind which the Egyptians undertook were much less pretentious. These consist of stone built dams erected at the mouth of many of those lateral ravines or wadis which lead down from the mountain ranges into the Valley of the Nile. One of the most important among the most pointed out in eighteen eighty five by Dr Shrine. Firth at a distance of about six miles and a half from the baths of. Helwan at the mouth of the Wadi Guerande. It answered two purposes. Firstly as a means of storing the water of the inundation for the use of the workmen in the neighbouring quarries and secondly as a barrier to break the force of the torrents which rush down from the desert after the heavy rains of springtime and to win her the ravine measures about two hundred forty feet with the sides being on an average from forty to fifty feet in height the dam which is one hundred forty three feet in thickness consists of three layers of material at the bottom of bed of clay and rubble. Next a piled mass of limestone blocks Mosley a wall of cut stone built in retreating stages like an enormous flight of steps. Thirty two of the original thirty five stages are yet institute and about one fourth part of the damn remains piled up against the sides of the ravine to right and left but the middle part has been swept away by the force of the torrent a similar dyke transformed the end of Wadi Gay into a little lake which supplied the synthetic minors with water most of the localities from which the Egyptians derive their metals and choices. Materials in hard stone. Were difficult of access and would have been useless. Had roads not been made and works of this kind carried out so as to make life somewhat less insupportable there. In order to reach the diorite and grey granite quarries of the Amata Valley. The Pharaohs caused a series of rock cut cisterns to be constructed along the Line of Route. Some few insignificant springs skillfully conducted into these reservoirs. Made it possible to plant workmen's village in the neighborhood of the quarries and also near the Emerald Mines on the borders up the Red Sea hundreds of hired laborers slaves and condemned criminals. Here let a wretched existence under the rule of some eight or ten overseers and the brutal surveillance of a company of mercenary troops the least political disturbance in Egypt an unsuccessful campaign or any untoward incident of a troubled rain. Suffice to break up the precarious stability up these remote as managements the Bedouins at once attacked the colony. The workmen deserted the guards. Weary of exile hastened back to the Valley of the Nile and all was at a standstill the choicest materials as Diorite saw black granite poor free and red and yellow breath chat which are only found in the desert were rarely used for architectural purposes. In order to procure them it was necessary to organize regular expeditions of soldiers and workmen. Therefore they were reserved for sarcophagi and important works of art. Those quarries which supplied building materials temples and funerary monuments such as Limestone Sandstone Alabaster and red granite. Were all found in the Nile Valley and were therefore easy of access when the fain which it was intended to work traversed the lower strata of the rock the miners excavated chambers and passages which were often prolonged to a considerable distance square pillars left standing at intervals supported the super incumbent mass while tablets sculptured. In the most conspicuous places commemorated the kings and engineers who began or continued to work several exhausted or abandoned quarries have been transformed into votive chapels. As for instance the spouse are. Tim Does which was concentrated. Hat ships that most third and said He. The first to the local goddess paquet the most important limestone quarries at Tora and Massara. Nearly opposite Memphis. This stone lends itself admirably to the most delicate touches of the Chisel hardens when exposed to the air and acquires a creamy town. Most restful to the I. Hence it was much in request by architects and sculptors the most extensive sandstone formations are at sill syllabus here. The cliffs were quarried from above and under the open sky. Clean Cut and absolutely vertical. They rise to a height of from forty to fifty feet sometimes presenting a smooth surface from top to bottom and sometimes cut in stages accessible by means of steps scarcely large enough for one man at a time. The walls of these cuttings are covered with parallel stray sometimes horizontal sometime slanting to the left and sometimes to the right. So forming lines of serried Chevron's framed as it were between grooves an inch or an inch and a half and win by nine or ten feet in length. These are the scars left upon the surface of spy. The tools of the ancient workman and they show the methods employed in detaching the blocks the size was outlined in red ink and this outlined sometimes indicated the form which the stone was to take in the projected building the members of the French commission when they visited the quarries of Gebel Abu Fada copied the diagrams and squared designs of several capitals. One being of the Campana form pattern and others prepared for the half. Our head pattern. The outline made the fertile faces of the block were divided by means of a long iron chickasaw which was driven in perpendicularly or obliquely by heavy blows the Mallet in order to detach the horizontal faces. They made use of wooden or bronze wedges inserted the way up the natural strata of the stone very frequently. The stone was roughly blocked out before being actually extracted from the bed. Thus it's Eileen we see a coup shot obelisk of granite the underside of which is one with the rock itself and Tena there are trumps of columns but have disengaged the transport of cord stone was affected in various ways at Saiain at sill syllabus at Gebel shake horita and at Gebel Abu Fada the quarries are literally washed by the waters of the Nile. So that the stone was lowered at once into the barges at Khazar. Sim Lead at Tora. And other localities situated some distance from the river canals dug expressly for the purpose conveyed the transport boats to the foot of the cliffs when Water Transit was out of the question. The stone was placed on sledges drawn by oxen or dragged to its destination by gangs of laborers and by the help hub rollers chapter to religious architecture in the civil and military architecture of ancient Egypt brick played the principal part but in the religious architecture up the nation it occupied a very secondary position. The Pharaohs were ambitious of building eternal dwellings for their deities and stone was the only material which seemed sufficiently durable. Tell a stand. The ravages of time and man section one materials and principles of construction. It is an error to suppose that the Egyptians employed only large blocks for building purposes the size of their materials very very considerably according to the uses for which they were destined arche trays drums of columns lintel stones and door jams or sometimes of great size. The longest archetypes Noun does namely which bridge the Nave of the Hyper Style Hall of Karnak have a mean length of thirty feet. They each contain forty cubic yards and weigh about sixty five tonnes ordinarily however the blocks are not much larger than those now used in Europe. They measure that is to say about two a half to four feet in I from three to eight feet in length and from two to six feet in thickness some temples are built of only one kind of stone but more frequently materials of different kinds are put together in unequal proportions. Thus the main part of the temples of avocado soup consists of very fine limestone but in the temple of Seti the first the columns arche trades jams and lintels all parts in short where it might be feared that the limestone would not offer sufficient resistance. The architect has had recourse to sandstone. While in that a Ramsey's the second sandstone granite and Alabaster were used at Karnak. Luxor Tennis and Memphis similar combinations may be seen at the Ramesseum and in some of the Nubian temples. The column stand on massive support of crude brick. The stones were dressed more or less carefully. According to the positions they were to occupy when the walls were of medium thickness as most partition walls. They are well wrought on all sides. When the wall was thick the core blocks were roughed out as nearly cubic as might be and piled together without much care. The hallows being filled up with smaller flakes pebbles or mortar casing stones were carefully wrought on the faces and the joints dressed for two thirds or three quarters of the length the rest being merely picked with the point the largest blocks were reserved for the lower parts of the building and this precaution was the more necessary because the architects of Veronica. Time's sake the foundations of their temples. No deeper than those of their houses at Karnak. They are not carried lower than from seven to ten feet at Luxor. On the side anciently washed by the river. Three courses of masonry each measuring about two and one half feet in Depp's form a great platform on which the walls rest while at the Ramesseum. The brickwork bed on which the colonnade stands does not seem to be more than ten feet. D these are but slight Depp's for the foundations of such great buildings but the experience of ages proves that they are sufficient the hard and compact humis of which the soil of the Nile Valley is composed contracts every year after the subsidence of the inundation and thus becomes a most incomprensible as the building progressed the weight of the Super Incumbent Masonry crackly became greater till the maximum of pressure was attained and a solid basis secured. Wherever I have baird the foundations of the walls. I can testify. That they have not shifted the system of construction and force among the ancient Egyptians. We simples in many respects that of the Greeks. The stones are often placed together with dry joints. And without the employment of any binding. Contrivance the masons relying on the Mir weight of the materials to keep them in place sometimes. They are held together by metal cramps or sometimes as in the temple of Seti the first at apple dose by dovetails of Sycamore. Wood bearing the cartoonish of the founder most commonly. They are united by a mortar joint. More or less all. The mortars of which have collected samples are thus far of three kinds. The first is white and easily reduced to an impalpable powder being lime. Only the others are gray and rough to the touch being mixture of lime and sand while some are of a reddish color owing to the pounded brick powder with which they are mixed a judicious use of these various methods enabled the Egyptians to rival the Greeks in their treatment of regular courses equal blocks and upright joints in alternate bond. If they did not always work equally well their shortcomings must be charged to the imperfect mechanical means at their disposal the enclosure walls partisans and secondary facades were upright and they raised the materials by means of a rude kind of crane planted on the top of the pylon walls and the principal facades and sometimes even the secondary facades were sloped at an angle which varied according to the taste of the architect in order to build these they formed inclined planes the slopes of which were uncleaned as the structure rose in these two methods were equally perilous for however carefully the blocks might be protected while being raised they were constantly in danger of losing their edges or corners or of being fractured before they reached the top thus it was almost always necessary to rework them and the object being to sacrifice as little as possible of the stone. The workmen often left though of most abnormal shapes. They Laugh Laugh. One of the side faces and then the joint instead of being vertical leaned askew if the block had neither height nor length despair they made up the laws by means of a supplementary slept sometimes they even left a projection which fitted into a corresponding allow in the next upper or lower course. Being first of all the expedients designed to remedy accidents these mats degenerated into habitually careless ways of working the masons who had inadvertently hoisted too large a block no longer trouble themselves to lowered back again but worked it into the building in one or other of the ways before mentioned the architect neglected to duly supervised the dressing into placing the blogs he allowed the courses vary and the vertical joints two or three deep to come one over the other. The rough work done the masons dress down. The stone reworked the joints and overlaid the whole with a code of cement or stucco colored to match the material which concealed faults of the real work. The walls rarely end with a sharp edge bordered with Taurus around which a Sculpture Ribbon District Wind. They are crowned by the cuff. Eto cornices surmounted by a flat band or as it Semnan a by a square corners or as it Medina top boo by a line of battlements. Thus framed in the walls looked like enormous panels each panel complete in itself without projections and almost without openings windows. Always rare in Egyptian architecture are mere ventilators when introduced into the walls of temples being intended to light the staircases as in the second pylon of Haram Heb at Karnak or else to support decorative woodwork on festival. Days the doorways project but slightly from the body of the buildings except where the lintel is overshadowed by a projecting cornices. Real windows occur. Only in Pavilion of meta-net Harpo but that building was constructed on the model of a fortress and must rank as an exception among religious monuments. The crowned level of the courts and hough was flagged with rectangular paving stones well enough fitted except in the Inter column nations. Where the architects hopeless of harmonizing. The lines of the pavement with the curved basis up the comms half filled in space with small pieces set without order or method contrary to their practice when house building. They have scarcely ever employed the fault or arch in temple architecture. We know where meat with it. Except at the year El Bahri and in the seven parallel sanctuaries of Abydos even in these instances the arches produced by core bullying. That is to say. The curve is formed by three or four superimposed horizontal courses of stone. Chiseled out to the form required the ordinary roofing consists of flat paving slabs when the space between the walls was not too wide these slabs bridged it over at a single stretch otherwise the roof had to be supported at intervals and the wider the space the more these supports needed to be multiplied the supports were connected by immense stone. Arche trades on which the roofing slabs rest hid. The supports are of two types the pillar and the column some are cut from single blocks thus the monolithic pillars of the Temple of the Sphinx the oldest hitherto found measure sixteen feet in height by foreign one half feet in Width Monolithic. Columns of red granite are also found among the ruins of Alexandria BOO BUST HIS AND MEMPHIS. Which date from the reins of Haram Ebb and Ramsey's the second and measure some twenty to twenty six feet in height but columns and pillars are commonly belton courses which are often unequal and irregular? Like those of the walls which surround them the great columns of luck. Sar are not even solid two thirds of the diameter being filled up with yellow cement which has lost its strength and crumbles between the fingers the capital of the column of Harka at Karnak contains three courses each about forty eight inches high. The last and most projecting course is made up twenty six convergence stones which are held in place by merely the weight of the abacus the same carelessness which we have already noted in the workmanship of the walls is found in the workmanship of the columns the quadrangular pillar with parallel or slightly inclined sides and generally without either base or capital frequently occurs in tombs of the ancient empire it reappears later at Medina Taboo in the Temple of Thomas the third and again at Karnak in what is known as the processional. All the sides of these square pillars are often covered with painted scenes while the front faces were more decorative treated being sculptured with Lotus or papyrus stems in high relief as on the pillar style I of Karnak or adorned with the head of Hathor crowned with the Strom as in the small spills of Abu Simbel or sculptured with a full length standing figure of Cyrus as in the second chord of Medina Ohio or as gender and Gobble Barkov with the figure of the God s at Karnak in an edifice which was probably erected by Haram Mab with building material taken from the ruins of a sanctuary of Almond Hotel. The second and third the pillar is capped by a corness separated from the arbitrary by then abacus by cutting away. It's four edges. The square pallor becomes an octagon prism and further by cutting off the eight new edges. It becomes a sixteen sided prism some pillars in the tombs of Uh Schwan and Beni Hasan and in the processional hall at Karnak as well as in the chapels of Deir. El Bahari are of this time. Besides the forms thus regularly of oft there are others of irregular derivation with six twelve fifteen or twenty sides or verging almost upon a perfect circle. The portico pillars of the temple of Cyrus at apple does come last in the series. The drum is curved but not around the curve being interrupted at the extremities of the same diameter by a flat stripe more frequently. The sides are slightly channeled and sometimes as it collapsed. The floodings are divided into four groups of five each by four. Fertig flat stripes. The pelicano pillar has always a large shallow. Clint in the form of a rounded disc at El Kab it bears the head of Hathor sculptured in relief upon the front but almost everywhere else it is crowned with a simple square abacus which joins it to the arbitrary thus treated it bears a certain family likeness to the DORIC column and one understands how Shomar and Shampoo Leon in the first ardor of discovery were tempted to give it. The scarcely justifiable name of Proto. Doric column does not rest immediately upon the soil. It is always furnished with the base like that of the public no pillar sometimes square with the ground and sometimes slightly rounded. This space is rather plain or ornamented only with a line of Hieroglyphs the principal forms fall into three types one the column with Campana form or Lotus flower capital to the column with Lotus Bud capital at three the column with half our head. Cavanaugh one columns with Campana form capitals. The shaft is generally plane or merely engraved with inscriptions. Were bar relief. Sometimes however as at Madama it is formed of six large and six small Collenette's in alteration in for onic times it is boldness being curved inward at the base and ornamented with trying. All's one within another imitating the large leaves which she the sprouting plan. The curve is so regulated that the diameter at the base and the top shall be about equal in the ptolemaic period. The bulb often disappears owing probably to Greek influences the columns which surrounded the first court at Edfu rise straight from their plants. The shaft always tapers toward the top. The Campana Form Capitol is decorated from the spring of the curve with a row of leaves like those which she the base between these are figured shoots of Lotus and papyrus in flower and bud the height of the capital and the extent of its projection beyond the line of the shaft. Fareed with the taste of the architect at Luxor. The Campana Form Capitals are eleven and a half feet in diameter at the neck eighteen feet in diameter at the top and eleven and a half feet in height at Karnak in the hypoth- style. Aw the height of the capital is twelve and a quarter feet and the greatest diameter twenty one feet. A Square dies surmount. The whole this guy is almost hidden by the curve of the capital. Though occasionally as bender it is higher and bears on each face. A figure of the God bess. The column with Campana Form Capitol is mostly employed in the Middle Avenue of hyper style halls asset Karnak the Ramesseum and Luxor. But it was not restricted to this position for we also find it in Porticos as at Medina Tombo Edfu and feeling the Processional Hall of Tut Mazda. Third at Karnak contains one most curious variety. The flour is inverted like a bell and the shaft is turned upside down the smaller end being sunk in the plan while the larger is fitted to the wide part of the overturned bow. This ungraceful innovation achieved no success and is found nowhere else other. Novelties were happier. Especially those which enabled the artist to introduce decorative elements taken from the flora of the country in the earlier examples at so lab SESA PU PASTAS and Memphis. We find a crown of palm branches springing from the band their heads being curved beneath the weight of the advocates later on as we approached the ptolemaic period the date and the half unfolded. Lotus or added to the palm branches under the PTOLEMIES and the Caesar's the capital became a complete basket of flowers and leaves ranged row above row and painted in the brightest cars. At Edfu on bows and fee lay. One would fancy that the designer had vowed never to repeat the same pattern in the same portico two columns with Lotus Bun capitals originally. These may perhaps have represented a bunch of Lotus plants. The buns being bound together at the neck to form the capital the columns of Beni Hasan consists of four rounded stems. Those are the labyrinth of the Processional Hall of Tut. Most the third and of Madame consists of eight stems each presenting a sharp edge on the outer side. The bottom of the column is Bull Miss and said round with triangular leaves. The top is surrounded by three or five bands. A molding composed of groups of three vertical stripes hangs like a fringe from the lowest band in the space between every two stems so very to surfaced is not admit of hieroglyphic decoration. Therefore the projections were by degrees suppressed and the whole shaft was made smooth in the hypoth- style hall at Gernika. The shaft is divided in three parts the middle one being smooth and covered with sculptures while the upper and lower divisions are formed of clustered stems in the Temple of CON. Su in the aisles. Of the Hyper Style Hall of Karnak and in the Portico of Madina Tabu. The shaft is quite smooth. The fringe alone being retained below the top bands wallace light rich between each of the three bands recalls the original stems. The capitol underwent unlike process of degradation at Beni Hasan. It is finely clustered throughout its height in the processional hall of topmost the third at Luxor. And at Madame a Surkov. Small pointed leaves and channeling 's around the base lessens the effect and reduces it to a mere grooved and truncated. Kona in the Hyper Style Hall of Karnak at Abydos at the Ramesseum and that Medina Taboo various other ornaments as triangular leaves hieroglyphic inscriptions or bands of cartouches flanked. By Yuri I fill the space. Thus unfortunately obtained neither is the abacus hidden as in the Campana Form Capitol but stands out bull lay and displays the cartoonish of the Royal Founder. Three columns with author had capitals. We find examples of the author headed column dating from Ancient Times as it day year. Bahari disorder is best known in buildings of the Ptolemaic period as at Contra la topless being lay and defender the shaft and the base present no special characteristics they resemble those of the Campana Form Columns. The capital is in two divisions below. We have a square block bearing on each phase a woman's head in high relief and crowned with a nails. The woman has the ears of a heifer. Her hair confined over the brow by three. Vertical bands falls behind the ears and hangs along on the shoulders. H head supports a fluted corness on which stands a halos framed between two volumes and crowned by a slender abacus. Thus each column has for. Its capital foreheads of Hathor seen from a distance it had a once recalls the form of the system so frequently represented in the bar reliefs as held in the hands of Queens and Goddesses. It is in fact. A system in which the regular proportions of the parts are disregarded the handle is gigantic while the upper part of the instrument is unduly reduced. This notion so pleased. The Egyptian Fancy. That architects did not hesitate to combine the system design with elements borrowed from other orders. The foreheads of hathor placed above a campana form capitol furnished neck to Nebo with the composite type for his pavilion had feeling. I cannot say that the compound is very satisfactory but the column is in reality unless ugly than it appears in engravings shafts of columns were regulated by no fixed rules of proportion arrangement. The architect might if he chose make use of equal heights with very different diameters. And regardless of any considerations apart from those of general harmony my design the various parts according to whatever scale best suited him the dimensions of the capital had no invariable connection with those of the shaft nor was the height of the shaft dependent on the diameter of the Column at Karnak the Campana Form Columns of the hyper style. All measure ten feet high in the capital and fifty five feet high in the shaft with the lower diameter of eleven feet eight inches at Luxor. The capital measures eleven. One half feet the shaft forty-nine feet and the diameter at the spring of the bays eleven and one quarter feet at the Ramesseum the shaft and capital measures thirty five feet and the spring diameter is six and one half he. The Lotus Bud or clustered column gives similar results at Karnak in the aisles. Of the hyper style. All the capital is ten feet high. The shaft thirty three feet and the base diameter six and three quarter fee at the Ramesseum. The capital is five and one half feet high. The shaft twenty four and one half feet and the base diameter five feet ten inches. We find the same. Irregularity asked to argue trades. Their hide is determined only by the taste of the architect or the necessities of the building so also with the spacing of columns not only does the Inter columnist space very considerably between Temple and Temple or chamber and chamber but sometimes as in the first court admitted Habu they vary in the same portico. We have thus far treated separately of each type but when various types were associated in a single building no fixed relative proportions were observed. In the hyper style hall at Karnak the Campana Form. Columns support the nave while the load is spun. Variety are relegated to the aisles. There are halls. In the temple of gone sue were the lowest but columnist loftiest and others were the campana form dominates the rest in. What remains of the Madam at Structure Campana Form and Lotus? Bud columns are of equal height. Egypt had no definite orders like those agrees but tried every combination to which the elements of the column could be made eleven themselves hence we can never determine the dimensions of an Egyptian column from those of one of its parts and with that. I think we'll end this evening's reading from the manual of caption archaeology and guide to the study of antiquities in Egypt. 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There was a little bit of damage to one of the offenses prior to following one of the incidents that you described. I think there's a little bit of remedial were just going on around the truck, and as a result, we shed all just house being put back a little while they're the teams I'll still assembly down here on the grid. been going the window I think it's called. There's four full ride is now whiting in. One of them. Now, they're not going to let them go for whatever reason they held the man. Now they are letting them go out on the after he greatly will come around now. Think that information? Yes. We did see the the remedial bits of. Being, taken down the pit lane that. Sort of definitely what did you run still? Yes. There are quite a lot of Ron Najib slowly but surely coming out onto the circus are and I want to be how Justa till they would give him the clearance by the conquer the calls, Ma'am how to safety. That's doing that remedial work on the circus. So they are now all been released down that into ward the. Coming out onto the surgeon that he's done. So as number twenty, six, Rhonda and good buddy comes from. Television arena, which is the. Town of about Tista is a big buddy. Our about. He missed only two Paul. says. He was actually quarantined in a flat in Sheffield whilst. Come from Spain and wasn't a long time so we didn't do. Where for the don't into Paul Tobin just runs we'll brand garden and. Congressional I bring brand new celebrate. You sent me like twenty five years as a team owner Brent Gospel recommended to himself of some renown and having rights database intensely in the form and will jump you all those years ago as one of the great great characters is amount which will provide on that one is the ride is now all beginning to make that why? Just coming on the exit is tiny wood dining. New Assay was twenty five on Monday of this week the Rose my he has he has won the international red rising championship last year Dave died after his one webb won a couple of years. and. Talk also was. In the Belgian supermodel. Taty, he's vagrancy. Manage Day baton won this rice at northwestern law she did. And had they second in the stock at the Water Grand Prix. Against also, the best pricing of six in the senior team hundred mile up is singled. To. As the POLKADOT is now coming down in the lane to come out that is the number fourteen and not is tim need. This coming out there these tim and Tom the twins rising out on market Rasen. And to leave. Did you see the DEBBIE Changed Teams Fall this weekend. Me Thursday with you That's okay. Yeah. Care for Mickey Day as principal. Mary but the one off if he gets some sort of result may well. Translates into a ride other next two rounds as well. So we'll mean Newton, he's looking for a replacement, Roddick obviously that is the ride. The David Daily timberline has vacated on the I N Competition Brilliant and he tells me that that won't be around bite at the next round and this suggested like on my mother's in the through tomorrow and he said, well, we'll give you test but we've got somebody in mind, but he wouldn't he wouldn't elaborate on that Larry because they. Believe that they will. They are back to A. Main sponsor, which is Jay successes in seven, very, very successful soccer road rise Makita numbers, anything Mickey he just going down the pit lane. Say. What you will face A, eight hours in Brooks is Mickey. He doesn't sort of wrapping up and always it takes your video tell you. But you know where you all with Margaret Dongo but I, do like the guard I really do he's he's never been anything other than polite and generous with his time to main over the years I'm Margaret Dunlop I do right there is GonNa be busy weekend done. Need is also got a busy weekend as much as Craig need is rising in the stalk thousand, but he's also rising in the do tatty. So that's full rises over the weekend full sets of practice. To qualify on Mickey, he's not any writing in the stock six hundred but what we do tomorrow because. I think he's GonNa get off the stocks one thousand in the second rice tomorrow and then straight onto six hundred because he's in the super support where it'd be out late tonight. Breathing space hand today but time is strike one to the other and I think this applies to Craig name was one of the races where they when thousand and then straight on. Yes. In fact it is now. Because finding on this rise. Kathy, performance Cropscience Cup. Not is where Be Rising. So He's GonNa Do Waltham Twenty six laps back. Tobacco is Greg. Made. Tomorrow will be. Dig Very very similar at Donington Park. If the recall we lost him on the podium, he was supposed to be on the podium false academies and when we couldn't find him somebody just whispered in my well, he's out in the next race and that was. Apparently superstock one thousand. So yeah probably not to foreign this for Michael where you go to the roads that west the tape. You trump warm bike and. Back. Onto the wanted another half does a lap. So I'm pretty sure. I've Michael de la isn't it in the? Championship. When you look at the legends out there, the the road fletch in the Michael Dunlop Joe mcguiness in oceanside paint eight Mundane Harrison. We're just about them all here. We have indeed and. Not sure what's happening with the automatic next year? He wanted to rumors that it might be a big question mark over the next year. No founded that is down about been thanks very defensive and on Sunday. So all home residents and lockdown conditions providing on the on, and that's why one of the income you're the. Here with us in the become, he says, nobody comes across. Slice for two weeks back. On the on Mountain under the same with crows crows in the design cons where does being played good has been cleared I'll tell you this and the listeners. Reminding this one this is going to gain. Give us some pretty exciting racing here. We've seen some crack and cracking rice in I don't think. Is GonNa be. Qualified up toward the about business and they will the going out on the circuit momentarily the order all of course he this. I'm Chrissy wrassling this Rondo Donnie. Just looking back. Monday and. Tuesday Larry. Bumped into hunches said. Don't tell you this wrong way is that I said I dreamt about you smart. As always as always. Company took a price backwards and ours. I said I dreamt that actually, how'd I fourth place? You just missed the podium with a fourth position pre margarine wrong and get on the podium if you count well qualified wound is. In eighth position as in just wondering whether whether date is going. To be knock on the door on the podium. Honestly think it's GonNa be Ranch Rodeo. that would be. Back through your goals. Francine who won the superstock ranch. Park as two thousand and six fourteen years ago. Correlates a mind. Well, why don't even bother to go there because I know that just to what you just told me not one right but just paying mind the course that wins the. Sun and between thank you spoke about was, I think accent in twenty ten when he? Lost his leg. Those. The next. Next, move was turned. Off The turned around the corner. One so resigned and it wants. Struggle all the way back. By the. Amount of the year. Twenty ten. For the five victories in okay. Yes. You can argue this. With Abbas got to. If you'RE GONNA wind farm rises. Yes. It is going to be at expensive on the RON spouse breaking down they're doing this that but the rebels will always show five hundred wins for leising Larry. He's coming back a limit Ilaga formalizing the was showing roundabout back in twenty ten remember of call city re broke the link on coal backing twenty seventeen we'll see only. Take. Obama W when he crushed up on the mountain and he set himself back all over again, thirty nine operations is on the leg. The doctors have told him on three occasions when he's gone down that operation when you wake Gopi and you probably know the heck, Macho about those for your psychologically the five days he still racing still competitive one of my all time heroes in Hutchinson. Would go along with. Just. Cover without that I haven't been willing to spend. Terrific, axiom that training I think for the no I two hundred. He managed to re break his legs three times all she penrose Nancy's not writing this year but that's been the super sports. Let's. Start One thousand we're getting ready to go fourteen Mars the on who's going to win the drug on. This is crazy Ross policies and wearing a go situation then. taught him and then it is done on the Dragon won't. Won't. Turn. On Fox. News. Right now is in their the war that opening right under. Aroused because he roused the distinctive pink and blue that's gonNA veto performance colors. Yes. It is roused on this news radio on the dropdown stunning countryside position as I go into all guys whether it's the first of what would be fourteen scorching up where we see a new record that record hound by the Jackson? No one thirty, six, point, two, two, seven. I didn't get closer to join qualify. But all we got to see lot record here in this category of rising and leading as they go into water the show or corner it is Chrissy rows running four then you. Perform team on the W. Send team is through as a been into will Britain's on then up toward hilltop and then the run down towards his China would see them because on this one, we're still riseborough disease Gustav the number sixty nine right out there will be a rogers on the rundown. running about four open they went down towards the options gain. Now guiding try lenient away on the NFL. Lewis rarely running for J as accessories on the Ian Newton on the Preah in that in second position quantity smoking rotter at all the gift in the Royal Borough of Huntington in East Lothian. Number six. Then coming under pressure personnel full that was tim. Need Ninety Tyson Because we've been through phrase Russia's saying when they compete this price, Russia may affect my favorite place away from Tim Nieves I compete I. Love Donny also rows row. No. Rogers Elliott Carter's on Brian. That was no quantum. Brian goes to infant position. Then train them Tim Nieve Hedges Hutchinson McDonnell the Colorado Skinny McConnell Linford. Bridges on a we've and tell me how Arizona Race Tom Hopkins Wins Jones the Double Coupons Sheldon shorties. Ward Craig NATO's on out some west of the thirty riders. ONSCREEN number. One welcome back to other riders when to that are basically onscreen number two. But what a crock install there by Brian Elliott the number fifty one right up all the brain and it. Was Say, follow this year I've seen the thirteenth place. Donington Park in the Armenian Rice would not as a rod they're getting totally saw ways on and there. Might to be through. The distinct colors over the regime squander. Was it. Was it when he's away either why the Rhonda did bring into three twenty. Yum is the race eating machine named coming through? The big member that I think I was about was number fifty, nine on my. A front wheel overtaking the about with every second different win. He's. Back on this one is the. is turned up at he. Then to Reno there's been. Giving some indication of the pace of this race in. Thirty seven one before then the. And that is a Point, nine short of. rows Ro Rodgers. Timmy McConnell. And in. Your. Top Ten riders, Lynnfield Allingham, Jordan head off Shane Risen guards back applies the Tony Dean Harrison than demaurice struggling to make inroads as. Rondo earnings, jump championship. Every sunken is brand new to this very, very technical circuits alone. Time rings the team struggling just to do that. The New Jones picked up a couple of places on the highest box a freely, I'm. Actually, an excellent Newton bar thinks that one. And leaders. Is Tonight. The racing schoolteacher. Mathematics schoolteacher. This hour's Carrizo Dean houses right stokes Oh that's stepped off the. Fifteen that will be going compromise on that one nineteen rather way for that. But that looks like that would be seen Harrison crushing out of this one, the number nineteen, a rider. When was he when they went through lost? It was winning sixteen. points are was Dean Harrison but I think we'll get confirmation that it is the number nineteen. Stepped on the okay. Walking is the okay. We can give you the rundown of Ron is coming up integrator. Yesterday's number nineteen confirmed that as a Ford dealers our San. Rhonda. Gives Arcane. US through intellectual before. Tim Need a price. This is the key ride at number fourteen tim native need. The moment is running in four position in the. He goes back applies I'm means they'll go back to six days and hedge McConnell through love and. Dave nutting weaving Tom Neva mood up. Back time in recent about one place. Shopping about that but not. Dramatically. No. Not Too much. I will see the. Up He's running twenty s at the moment see Jenny Timothy Timothy running on the school racing nearby quick comeback to him attorney as we are looking for the rice leader. The leaders are should be. Running the race leader so Chrissy rows. Not. Has. Roller. That is your rice lead. Looks as if that may well be Fraser Rogers running a second price where is Chrissy Raza okay. Well have gone missing on this one that's just an opponent just other amendment number sixty, nine, thousand, nine because for the blue and the orange on the bond. No is this a mood him? Yes, it is. He took the. event. Large gone out on it. He was holding second price was Chrissy rows the number sixty nine ride up and looks at. A technical problem. Now is he gonNA continue when he ran wide on bend? See when. He's going to edit head toward the pit lane coming up then to complete lap for Rono. Rogers rouse his ass don't ask whatever was he has restored the site's. Just a mistake in to ward. Ireland band is always a war sweeping left hand on cracking on around about one hundred, seventy, nine, hundred twenty now on the run into ward about lifetime that just run todd why did the number sixty nine off Chrissy rows? And he is GonNa. Come back here with Benji down there. Three seconds news right I lose on the giant s accessories are pre as a way with this one the amendment news right now there's also houses, Frank. Thomas. Bench provided by his sponsors I s accessories. Office lap in the highlands throw out of one, thirty, seven, zero, four, seven. Championship leader Thome. Nieve he's going after stop thinking about extracting digits some point in time Fred. I'm Fred Thirteenth on the Hustler on the Honda really needs to stop trying to get a place up to a head and maximize if rouse isn't GonNa make take took advantage of it. Yeah. I think he's got a problem as I told me because he's white on your land. Some eight seconds off the pace of newest roller number six wind up running for. Successors right to Rogers running second number eighteen on wonderful Morello, Chrissy resume running third for the Silk Road performance than Senate is pray that. Well I'll tell you what mom and dad of the the the people down that in Australia on. Nomi tune into ESPN radio will be sitting today radio's on this one because. The number fifty, one, the twenty, five year old now when his full season the United Kingdom this is the guy we call the radio kid in the opening shots of your spoil you'll see him almost out of the saddle at Donington Park and look when. Kind down, I'm to be a motorcycle benistead name is able to carry on with the ride that is actually backs by CFS Phil Dreicer and your speed rape, and you would also the festival Tyson also sponsor the swindon robins speed right team as. In the twenty five year old on a jet to him. Yesterday, afternoon and leaders. Now, with that, there were other leaders are coming up that already on their way up to Britain's and heading onto ward. Through. Louis runner enduring three point two. you loss lap was slightly slower down Chrissy rousing psychopaths. He was pulling back just less than point to the second he's GonNa. Talk the anti on that one that means get a three point two second gap as. Too little at the moment for Chrissy rows as Rogers back into fifth number John Fraser Rodgers. Now about injury suffered from law. Cylinders in Kosovo got a couple of and twenty two screws in his is on the. They cut the news while they were operating and the was coming from I think he's on. That one on. One of kiln not problem for Fraser Rogers. Because as right there on the podium I've. Just ahead all. That hid. Believe this we're seeing with number fifty one brian anything. WHO In. The one. Thousand Mile Shampoo Best Pricing? bruns Haji. And for this year with a bright night in the best pricing, Auburn are saying for him thirteenth price I don't Jabbar. Fourteenth. Prices. Snetterton full Brighton. Now on into lap lumber seven the definitive at the end of lap number six being rollo rouse Rogers. Elliott. Tim Need EPA can't McConnell. Linford Basham talk ten weaving Allingham Tony. Romo. Richardson told Winfield Turns Reese Hopkins Undemocratic Dunlop Burning. Twentieth Hutchinson to Shelly. Williams. Teased out of touch. Westwood on eight says. Thirteen and under we have the leaders on their way down what is your scholarship sheriff of the number of Tony by totally right on the. David David Riding for Mickey the terminally Black Fed bearing on that scissor game. On the replica fairing on Mrs UK you just pure black. To see that gap that did is GONNA cost three point seven five seconds is the gap that. Chrissy rows has got to get across. And visit come through to complete number seven. is coming down and it's definitely coming down quite a chunk down by hall second is down to three point two while the trace my while it'd be on this is a fourteen lapa seven laps ago to check and flag and is GonNa pull back now just on three point two seconds is not possible this possible. Off a second a lot but he's GonNa keep that consistently now and. The second lap quicker than number six new Israeli Lewis Twenty one year old news right now on the. As accessories I n competition APPRECIA- honestly four. On Price Roger Separate, not intimidate Lu Kaiser skipping, McConnell? Now the number three's on on the Ridge Energy Yo MG BMW the. But is more champion Benny Schema Komo. Losing. Fender guy into all the Britons you kind of course that. Home, why aren't let's get the latest I studied tension the number fifty, two dollars. So that means that that is going to be he's running back in eighth position of he can not where he want to be not expect today the. From the small town of Tetbury and gossage Jim. See Harold from. K. Tech suspension that retirement d'amore proclaimed goes number thirty find Reina. Is Steve Smith a retirement ways. Enter the code of this race is number four on picking up with that I into going to say, we shouldn't have the needs coming through. Today because that is. Nine Ninety two point four, two point, four seconds the Chinese as most definitely on on on this one ounce moments is Chrissy rows dodger two point four, nine seconds that asked all the labs. He can see the carrot dangled before encounter Z. Rows, and that is just getting tantalisingly closer and closer with age on every pulsing lap. The Moment Rollo two point four, eight seconds ahead. Rows is two seconds clear. All Fraser Rogers, non, Edit Brighton. Then, point some head of Tim need. Then his point I'd head of Newcastle. McConnell Donny down then for through reading Tom Need Allingham. Richardson Winfield Jones Hutchinson. Told Reese on Hopkins All your top twenty Monaco he's running twenty-first ahead on care about. Williams showed this your t's down need. So West Studies, I, an Josh World Number Twenty, seven, nine, hundred, seventy, four, the down on this one because I can become had all that Donnie. Anyway so about lap. So let's just say two point four, nine on the Bison Gun. That's GONNA come down to a random at one point eight seconds at the end of this lab, the differential between the leader Rollo and Chrissy rows and are now on the run on the late Dennis Pumpkin, some would say. Deleting Street that takes them up druids up toward a large corner. This to complete a lap number nine. Right. Won't point our one point seven Bam? Yes, he is. He is. That John this one is Chrissie rows whatever the problem was whether it was something more that Cau- in terms suit on and Ben, we know not a whether it's just a ride era joe that very willing to get information. Bright. Choice edge a fries rojas bright in there is go the audacity of even thinking all the price on the podium he's runs issue nuts, fraser rogers this. Roddy Lot we've never seen him rods this country befall and James has called for this is overflowing as he now has a go look on these other Fraser Rogers at shallows corner. Fries Rogers running. The OWN PREDOMINANT ORANGE DOT COM s behind him that way. Orange and black is bright. and. Then it is a runaway. Though it and still rono rouse than Rogers Elliott Tim need. Hi, Joe McConnell. Linford unto the no China Abbas says moving upper price goes to the number twenty off Shane Richardson. He's moved up to thirteen, which is. Down to fourteenth. About looking at the moment for what would be the? Food price on the podium. Saying is between gorgeous attend. These two are mirrors they would actually say. Is that this is that is getting the whole Suzuki on number fourteen not as tim and Timothy. There's a roger us every type of Benetton. Mangam, Tim need who were. Talking to. Record straight loss to the two races I starting just two weeks ago. The GOP end at the end of a ten it was down to one point seven is. One of what has gone that's gone up to full night as might another mistakes are always saying that he must have a problem either the hawks also breaks out without has gone up to four point eight seconds. Now, the vaunted Rono over Chrissy rows, j. s accessories Reina now as beginning to. Down and I think. I. It was the fact that that was a muscle from Chrissy rows and he's obviously trying to problem. He's not doing it now because he's not been passed pawn Fraser Raja's tries to Rogers up into Second Pies Perc- Roger going back to the had. been. Taken. Away. Because then it's GonNa, go him on the run into all the Britons guy this Kobe Bryant up onto the podium as I might no coordinator yet here's News Rodeo for giant successors on in Newton on the run. Go said. But behind that, it is number fourteen off tim need getting ever ever host behind live bushing hedger is all started beginning to the end. To problem is then. Whether it is break problem Oh gearbox comedies on arise through this problem, but it is cost time lost I think cost him some. Three seconds over that loss Latin the. Continues on this lab. Comes nearest roanoke coming up to complete the LOT Louis. Rollo. Yes to get on the podium this year for. The number six. Running for China's accessories, he to win Don into PA lost just one win loss year and he's looking I win this year. Let's just say that last I for rousing yes the guy he's in the so. As a problem as not a dream no problem at the moment but. That he's going to ride through all around here on this corner wild cost him this position and went through in full is tim nave infant. McConnell can't through it goes back to nights and then Linford his tens. To nevins weaving outing Richardson Hutchinson your top. Fifteen. Jones winfield race told Hawkins Dunlop Williams Donka. Matisse show. Does your on Craik need but we're GONNA go back with the rice noodles you already into A. Race leader in the singer on. This is the quality smoking. From the royal borough of Paddington. These. North of the border. Watching behind. That is still not made the move on Chrissy rows cannot be cautious because ten need are definitely now got himself into position. Trauma. Go with Brighton Elliott. Up, the hill, they go with the number fifty. Warm. All brazen. Receivable. The same here for three years and twenty seventeen and never. Anywhere. Knees podium opponent to. That it wasn't concept but now this guy to become the possibility of a real real fulbright and. Rogers rouse Elliott Tim need hedge McConnell Kansas on. The top ten at the end of number ten. Now, that changes slightly at the end of lot number. Lebanon's just see that in his true goes anytime he can. What does that gap rows enjoys over brave Elliott it is point full five of a second is really mad opportunism here Christine rouses tons of Ronald because he rushed back on the as back on the past one, every walls, his rijn through it around it on is now back on the person this and it's GonNa make it pretty much impossible pretty typical hand. On the podium because he raza pasta Russia's impact on. By temporarily is on the podium. Fraser Rogers is behind him he's gone Paul, the Rogers that would mean, right. Now. On the podium and his newest. This one he's off the road is way way out of science is seven seconds the road. Then back into price 'cause he rations price and it is the fifty one Albright Nydia. Raja's number eight, hundred nine is going back into fall where they'll be tim needs number fourteen, and then behind him me, then it will be Luke Bushy, hedger. Time is running throwing. This one time is running short on this one. This is coming up to complete lap number thirteen of the fourteen. LAPA. Goodwill Change Anyway this one. Is. His leader into he won't be taking any he considered now he's just somebody log around about two point, six miles to go to the checkout. Big. I who is now there's going down in the gravel don that and that may well be. True it's gone down that it might welby under. On that because that's definitely the. Of running. He was running ICS's bishop down shutting down. ADRENAL glands holding a position and he has KARSTON. took. A. So, let's get back with the league. He's okay. He's a guy that's number fifty nine senators to give you the numbers to. Number fifty nine crushing out. Large. Chunk all the leaders of the lead singer is ordered a show. What about second position? That is Chrissy rows third position Stone Brian that and does enjoy a ten yard and. Head off, Fraser Rogers. Was Jersey down that launch going it's going where three look went down there. That's the W eight. Roy. Honda and they lost it in the big white guard into old. Guy. Awful Lot to go. Into retarded number ten is pulled into the picture at Tom. Not attend being joe showed insure. Up Tight Hell. True corners to go DRUID's lodge corner. and Fraser, Rogers a guy in his law the behind. Right Ninety For this position that needs would be into a corner amendments earning this would be louis rather it's going to be delighted for J. successfully is one of the largest medicine closing an accession retainers in the UK comprise Roger. Hey. On this. Goes Back, I. Didn't be award. I didn't on the drug's. Lost it on the run into war that Rodney. Rogers went underneath and then he come back on days. I'm Brian Area Techs told you I would be delighted down an Australian as you not believe that you're down there in New South as well as. This. was they all trump hours ahead of us it's going to be talk in the morning. And there isn't phone Arado on the very nonstop looks are GonNa be showing winfield down there. We will just wait and see a wiz that one We went guests about just give you the way. that. It finished on this one because it's been long long overdue and well, not lovely family from down in New South Wales came across we saw them at burnside company years ago the family all. All Brighton and Brighton at ESPN who. Has. Gone his long long. So. It is Louis Rilo number sakes got home at by four point eight seconds on the J. and accessories. And Competition. From Chrissy rows number sixty, nine, the. Investigate, Guy. To because he was able to ride around it on, almost get back on terms to all regain. Chrissy. Rows Disney second bride natty number fifty one finishes in Third Position Number Fifty, one ahead of eighty nine Fraser Roger Fourteen. Twelve who caja three skipping McConnell eighty-two Donnie tens then behind against before down Linford sixty, need eight, thousand, a top ten follow by John Weaving he four. Three Shane Richardson Twenty. Eight in and forty, four, eighty two Jones seventy four debut tar ninety to demaurice sixteen new Hopkins thirty three. Michael Dollop and then they number ninety four on of Lee Williams Williams Don Cooper t's down need west Sayas tunstall would McKay and the fun finish are being the number sixty three rider on Nikko. Chip Riano.
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My name is matt and ben not a cop bowl and and that over there is no brown. Leasing gentlemen are famous super producer. Noel drown. could we get some sirens at top. Your perfect why. Why are the cops here. Well that's one of the reasons why i said i am not a cop but i'm not so sure about you met today. We have some sirens and some imaginary police officers here to help us out with a very sticky controversial subject. Lease gentlemen the war on drugs. Let's get right into it. What the heck is it. Where did it come from. How did it start. Oh yeah okay. So the freeze. The war on drugs is actually not that old. It goes back to nineteen seventy one On june eighteenth The president of the time. Richard nixon held a press conference in. This was the day after he had given a special message to the congress on drug abuse prevention and control during this press conference that he says that drug abuse is public enemy number one and he says that he's going to devote more money to. Here's the first time he was ever said the war on drugs. So this phrase the war on drugs really just got taken up by the media and it was used all over the place for In the way we think about the war on drugs now in at least two thousand fourteen. When we're putting this out is a little different than maybe the way it was presented at the time. In the beginning it was you know about trying to help rehabilitate drug users. It was about preventing new addicts from getting addicted But that kind of a message. Let's say sure Was kind of putting different places in. We'll go maybe go over some of those other organizations right but it was focused on just the word war focuses you on like battle guns carnegie all kinds of crazy things at least those images are are created in your head when you hear that phrase right. Yeah and it's also a war on an idea which is what drug use. I guess you could argue that. It's a war on a specific thing. But i think it's more a war on an activity. Which is people using drugs and make a very interesting point about portraying this as a war sort of criminalizes the people who are addicted and in other countries addiction is often treated like a disease writing But we know as you said that. The war on drugs has evolved from Rehabilitative aims that were part of it. I mean they always wanted to criminalise drugs but part of it was rehabilitation and and helping with oriented solutions. But today guys. The war on drugs in the united states takes an estimated fifty one billion with a b. dollars of the us budget. That's according to the drug policy alliance and for everybody who's listening now and saying you guys don't be shallow. The war on drugs didn't start in the seventies. he goes way way back. Well we know we looked into it absolutely The us has always had an adversarial relationship with drugs. Because you know we we think of drugs as a bad thing. An immoral thing to do at least in the moral code of let's save christianity is one. Yeah as one example Something you're not supposed to do. So the first drug laws actually surfaced way back in the eighteen sixties Yeah on the books. Yeah those were opium related. I think And those were local as well right then. The first law that restricted drugs on a national level was the harrison narcotics act of nineteen fourteen and that was related to again was trying to tax opium as well as cocaine yet. And at this time we see cocaine Being illegal unless you are an individual or a company with a license now. I have I have no real idea. Full disclosure. matt nolan. I are not Drug dealers nor to my knowledge drug addicts caffeine and got a caffeine monkey. Yeah i've got several. That are currently legal. Okay all right but We know that the idea that an individual could get a licensed gotta be crazy like that guy had the best. Pick up line at the bar right thing. Oh here let me show you my license. I've got my opium license. Yeah yeah so. Let's just fast forward past alcohol. Prohibition that huge debacle from nineteen twenty to nineteen thirty three because it did not work it did give us several political dynasties that started out as criminals. Oh yeah tons of those and fun. Little secret bars. That are really popular now the keys that you can go to and find a hidden door or somewhere cottage industry of creative people making moonshine. Go prohibition This is a scary thing that will come up later. And many ways prohibition was fantastic for parts of the us economy but at the same time it had a bloody history there. So many people died during prohibition of not only from being shot by authorities or authorities being shot by moon shiners or whoever is trying to make the stuff also bootleggers. People getting killed from poisoned alcohol. Super and out got rotgut. Alcohol wasn't made correctly yet. d- because without going into all of the specifics of how to create moonshine Which some wish. My family knows about We can point you to believe stuff. You should know as an episode on moonshine. They do and they do a great job explaining how to make this Strange fantastic potentially blinding drink. But we do know that Mayor marijuana was also one of the things that Fell under the purview of drug laws. The marijuana transfer tax act and this thing has its own bunch of conspiracy theories right met. It passed in nineteen thirty seven. What what were some of the theories about why it's illegal will. There are a theories about hemp in hemp production and how that might take over other textile industries at the time cotton specifically. I remember that at the time the the idea. Is that the time william randolph. Hearst newspaper tycoon. I love the word. Tycoon use it very often but this guy was legit tycoon. Oh yeah he. There could have been. A william randolph. Hearst tycoon video game. yeah. I wonder if they're gonna come out with a sim. Hearst or something anyhow this so this hearst guy as the story goes and listeners most of you already know this A story goes the sky acres acres and acres and acres of timber. And the invention of a new device. A decoy hemp. All of a sudden became a primary competitor and was a more efficient plant for the creation of paper right and other industrial products rope etc And that the the story goes that hearst cooperated with some of his other buddies in power to shut down the industry the burgeoning marijuana or hemp industry and one of the ways they did that was to put out propaganda pieces about the remember. The think think one of the ones we ran in our marijuana video was the devil. We'd oh yeah yeah can devil. We'd a yeah. It preyed upon these horrible horrible depictions of like the caricatures of People who were mexican and they were drawn as these like pseudo human monsters that were course you know all after the white women and if oh yeah yeah and if If a young lady of otherwise good moral standing was foolish enough to Smoke reefer image jazz club. Oh man you the terrible things that would happen to her. It's the end of america right there right. Yeah it is so we know that this We know that there are other conspiracy theories that maybe this was something to do with a dupont's and the invention of nylon and they wanted to use that instead most these conspiracy theories are Related to industrial competition But have not been conclusively proven at this point. I think it's important to say that. Yeah absolutely air holes in some of those stories there holes but on the other side. They've they do point to the powerful trying to remain powerful. I mean somebody paid for those propaganda pieces right. Marijuana madness Reminds me of that. That film reefer madness. Oh that i have a copy of it on my computer. Actually i think you. I'm not gonna name names. But one of my extended family members watch. This and i don't think they understood. It was a comedy. Yeah yeah. I don't know how you couldn't get a i guess you just. If you don't have the right frame older person. I felt like i had to be said okay. So we have this history of all these different attempts to Criminalize prohibit or completely eradicate drugs and drug trades. Here's the million dollar question. Has the war on drugs. Wert well listener. What do you think since one thousand nine hundred seventy one. The drug war is officially been on. It's been waged. we're in the middle of it. right now. Outlines will not us like the deiter shuki. Hopefully not us hopefully never us nobo- but honestly do you think the just sitting there listening to this. Do you think the availability of drugs has increased or decreased since nineteen seventy-one. The answer is it's increased a lot beni which drugs we're talking about right. There are a couple of drugs that slipped through the cracks. Quayle klay leads went away. Foods were a prescription drug. Oh good point. Yeah i mean because my example on yeah. And we'll explore some a dozen different arguments for against prohibition and whether or not it is effective because any any law that criminalizes a drug right whether it be caffeine adderall crack cocaine or that is essentially prohibitive law in. Sir you cannot do something versus a. You must do something. Sure uh so so if we ask. Has the war on drugs. Worked in very interesting thing here my friend because what we're really what we're really answering their Depends on who you are as whether or not it's worth so if the goal was to stop the availability of drugs as he said Then clearly that hasn't happened. I mean teenagers and multiple polls find it easier to get marijuana or cocaine than it is to buy alcohol which is legal. You know. Yeah you need an idea to get alcohol you know at least somebody who will go in there and get it for you yeah. Where's you just need to go to the right like fish concert to get chase pot. Yeah college campus. Or wherever i mean it's it's it's a terror fire. Yeah it's terrifying. How available that. Any of those drugs are right. Because it shows that things don't work. But what if the goal of us drug policy isn't about eradicating the drug trade. What do you mean of course it is. Here's where it gets crazy afterward from our sponsors episode of stuff. They don't want you to know is brought to you by lifelock. Last year there was a victim of identity. Theft every three seconds and criminal could be spending your money applying for loans in your name damaging your credit even selling your personal information on the dark web in. 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Us is a republic but in democratic system A number. That high is supposed to be a clear message. Say representatives right. Yeah depending upon who they're representing at the time We know that the war on drugs created soaring incarceration rates. We've got some scary numbers about it. That's right ben. With just five percent of the total world population the. Us has twenty five percent of the world's prisoners so that means that proportionately we lead the world just hugely big time we for people who use the word freedom so often in conversations. I know how cynical this sounds. We put a lot of people in jail. It doesn't matter what your political stances we put a lot of people jail and then a lot of people there for drug offenses. And we don't do it for everybody been as Most of us know disproportionately. These laws ended up imprisoning minorities like way more than let's say white people yes so just for some perspective here in two thousand eight washington. Post that of the one point. Five million americans arrested each year for drugs. Half a million would be incarcerated. Five hundred thousand a year and of those five hundred thousand The majority are going to be minorities especially african americans so this translates to one in five black americans An estimation one in five black americans spending time behind bars due to drug laws and these kind of statistics their overwhelming first of all. But they're also leading people such as michelle alexander who who's a critic. She says that. Mass incarceration is kind of the new jim crow which Remember the jim crow laws they were meant to. I don't know a good way to say. It stifled the african american Set of rights right. Yeah jim crow laws come in You know in the period between slavery and Legalized quality thanks to civil rights Jim crow laws were another way to repress in manage the united states black population Through what was In many ways assist demised enslavement. Under a different name. I mean we're not talking a lot of people they here. Jim crow law and they think separate water fountains right. Separate restroom separate entrances but this is also something like enforced work right. You are locked up for an arbitrary reason and then made to work for some of these same companies and in early days some of the same people who thought it was a good idea f slaves in the first place. Yeah it's interesting. They use the word management again ben. Because it's something that we're finding throughout this this series here Just trying to manage manage populations in this weird way without showing the hand of the manager because the laws to me are these rigid structures They're faceless yeah it's their ideas So i think that's a really good point now. I want to be completely fair. And point out that later. On in the pie cass. We're going to talk about the arguments. For this prohibition right and clearly clearly not everyone thinks that there is some over. Arcane conspiracy to reinsert slave The black population minority populations So one of the questions. There is Is this disproportionate incarceration occurring on purpose or. Is it the culmination of a bunch of short term decisions. Such as politicians want to be tough on crime. That's great for votes right And and also socioeconomic situation of vast swath of population. that's true. yeah so what what is. The cause is their orchestrated. 'cause here and Our cr- drug laws. Excuse me our drug laws part of this some drugs have been disproportionately legislated and i'm sure a lot of people were waiting for us to get to this The famous one hundred to one sentencing disparity for possession of crack cocaine versus powder cocaine That's crazy talk. Yeah and what causes that. Why the heck is that even a thing. Is it some kind of media based panicked. Like a racial bias. that's happening in the media Or even in the law enforcement system yes. Good question I everything that i've heard of cracked sounds terrifying to me. It's one of those. It's one of those things where just not passing judgment on people met but it's one of those things where i always wonder like what is the thought process. The makes you say you know what is a good idea today. Crack cocaine yeah. I have some unfortunately personal experiences of dealing with somebody. Who's addicted to crack cocaine that i'm not gonna to talk about right here but i just say that it is pretty frigging horrendous. And it's definitely not you know. I sort sorta established absolutely not me. It's it's not it's not you. It's not knoll way to me. That i black out and do some crack so i mean we're making light of a very serious thing but the truth of the matter. Is that for a long time This this sort of disparity in sentencing resulted in a lot of people who had like the same amount of cocaine in a in a crack form going to jail for much much longer. If the cocaine possessory went to jail at all. Yeah because the truth is right that They found that there were demographics to drug use and People in power would probably not smoke crack but they might do cocaine and they got lighter. Sentencing until two thousand ten. Yeah and two thousand. Ten obama signed the fair sentencing. Act to try at least and reduce this disparity. We'll see if it works out So i wanna go back to what you said earlier because you made one of the biggest invest points. I know a lot of people are waiting for out there. Which is a financial interest in the drug war. The idea that the war on drugs is a A guaranteed or piece of the american economy. I mean what do you think. I absolutely believe that I mean the economy as a whole seems to churn on a couple of different things. One of them is the drug trade because of the law enforcement. Angle in the incarceration efforts in the private prisons. Now in the amount of money that goes into end comes out of private prisons. I guess also it's a it's a boon to the legislative industry or Litigious industry the drug a drug or drugs in general is a great enemy to have to wage a war on at least from that standpoint. Because like you said it's nameless faceless. It doesn't really ever die like how. How do you extinguish drugs completely. I can i go on rent here. If we were to wage wars on ideas i would like to wage. Wars on things like illiteracy. Things like a war on A war on water contamination. A war on poverty would be a great thing for a lot of americans and you're a good hearted. Well i've never be elected but thank you for saying so i think earlier another. Us president did declare war on poverty. But it didn't carry as much attention. Yeah there's not a lot of money in stopping pro. Poverty is a lot of money. That comes out yeah. There's a lot of money. Invested in arresting marijuana users in two thousand nine The us spent an estimated. Seven billion dollars Arresting people. For what i imagine is everything. So that's like possession distribution. I growing i guess to And we know that drugs are also pretty good source of profit while they're illegal right. Oh yeah because we inside this black market. The demand is never change really for drugs overtime. There's always somebody like a lot of people who want drugs. And if you if you control the market that you know there aren't a lot of competitors you're making money you're looking at profit margins. I mean over one hundred percent oh yeah easily and you know there's a question about weather drug cartels would want. Us drug laws to change. You know if it became legal than the people swooping in would be multinational corporations with one hell of a war chest and taxes. I mean oh yeah want tax money out of you. So i again. There's a huge incentive to perhaps that is that is weird that's an angle i've never thought about the incentive of the cartels to maintain the drug war the I wonder i wonder if it's true now. You know we have some listeners in our audience who are in law enforcement. And one thing i think happens. That is unfair that we should talk about here. Is that a lot of the people that you know you will meet. If you just are on the street level taking a street level look at crime right. A lot of the people who are responsible for arresting someone. They don't make the laws it's their job they have to do it. You know. it's a is probably criminal for them not to and i think it's strange that these people the these people who are on the frontlines of the war on drugs right They're the ones who get so much of the criticism and so much of the flak and you know it's the same with the street level drug dealers right. They get most of the prison time but not the guys at the top of the pyramid. You know on the other side and you have to wonder. Sometimes how often the tops of these two competing pyramids talk. And if they work in unison. That's you know. That's the big the big conspiracy. That's the that's the big question So what i wanted to ask you. That is if we could talk a little bit about some of the drug war stuff that we've covered in our pass videos. We have a whole bunch right. Oh yeah I'm trying to think just the numbers. I remember in our original war on drugs episode where we had a little ticker in the side of those. How much money is being spent by the. Us government on the war on drugs second year. Real time watching the video and it was. It wasn't a huge. I think it was five hundred dollars a second thing. That's what i mean. When you hear that sounds like a lot of money for you or i or you've most of the people listening except for that one. other tycoon. remember from the bahamas. Yeah yeah anyway. Yeah okay so it doesn't sound like that much money but then when you when you look at it you watch this video. Which is only three and a half. I forget how many minutes but you just see this massive number at the end you realize my god the amount of time it took me to watch video one hundred thousand dollars which was spent will. Here's let's change directions a little bit then because this leads us to a a great question Arguments for against prohibition Do you think that the current drug laws work or that there. I guess that the system in place is preferable to other systems. Well like you said the system right now arrests ponds and it gets pawns in is a horrible way to look at it but pawns on in the police. Department the guys on the front lines though the little man who's actually out there trying to fight the war gets killed you know and the low level drug dealer gets arrested or killed. I don't think that works to solve anything that just creates a perpetual pon thing. So just a war of attrition. yeah then were progress to me. That's that's what i see and you're saying in your same pons completely and i'm not solely in the chess game and not in derogatory sense. Just you know you're sending your low level guys out to fight a war literally to fight a war and you never get to see. The bishop make an entrance now. Now you would say you know it's interesting. You say that because there are there are people who say that. A prohibition in the united states does work because a smaller amount of our population uses opium for instance versus those who use something legal such as alcohol. So what what. What would you say to that. I guess this is what i would do. I would go into the argument about the health consequences of drug x. versus drug y. Okay i see so. Maybe scheduled drugs based on that. Well yeah. I mean there are a lot of things you could schedule them on It's just the way. That drugs are currently scheduled. Even if we just looked. I mean honestly. Let's just look at marijuana okay versus alcohol okay. And this has been done so many times. You've heard this over and over all you listeners. But the known health effects of alcohol versus the known health effects of marijuana are. There's a huge disparity there where you know with alcohol you can if you consume enough get alcohol poisoning if you consume enough and you drive a vehicle or you use other heavy machinery. The weight impairs you. You're most likely going to hurt yourself or somebody else Alcohol is legal alcohol. Go on the other side with marijuana. A lot of the studies in there haven't been enough studies yet at least that we can cite but it doesn't seem to have the same effects you don't seem to be able to overdose on it and i. Are you saying those. Those posters from the thirties were wrong. I'm saying they were propaganda. What now i know. Come on and jazz really at truth. I'm just messing with you. But but yet that's you know that's a. That's definitely a valid argument. That i see there. I know that when i've spoken to people who are law enforcement officers the vast majority of them would rather not have to waste time and paperwork. Busting somebody with you know a dime bag of pot or something Because there are people out there stealing cars attacking the elderly things like that that she clearly be illegal. That's that's where. I would draw the line right in online and violent crime violent crime absolutely but that other thing you mentioned about Cocaine verses cracking. Yeah oh oh my gosh. I mean there have been numerous exposes about washington. Dc and the amount of cocaine that goes around that city and you know not for any kind of miscreants is running around on the side of town or the north side of town. You're talking about the players. Yeah yeah the people in the houses of power whether corporate or governmental. You know it's funny. Because one of the things i learned. We're looking at this practice. Was that the human species at large. Seems to go like cuts over cocaine. We're like that bird in that. Cocoa puffs cocoa puffs snapshot is like cuckoo for cocoa puffs or whatever. Yeah people are kuku for cocaine. You know The mayor rob forward was in the news a lot for his use of crack cocaine. Soon they'll be regular cocaine as well. there was a weird study. That came a few years back. That said I think there are some towns in italy. Where so many people use cocaine that you can find trace amounts of it in the water and you know there are always those statistics people liked whip our they say like forty percent of euros or dollars have traces of drugs in equal manner on them and stuff. So i don't know how how realistic that is. But then again. I don't know how realistic it is to try to ban something that. So many people indulge the only kinds of prohibition that seem to work for longtime in human history are religious prohibitions like dietary restrictions. And it's because somebody's god has commanded them not to. Yeah so it's voluntary right. But i don't know. I'm i'm ranting. I guess a little bit. And it's just it's just strange to me. We haven't even talked about opium production in afghanistan no During the war you what. Let's talk about that next but first let's pause for from our sponsors sponsor. You've asked your dad questions all your life like dad. Can i borrow money dad. Can i borrow the car. This father's day one. I'd ask him a question he actually wants to hear like eight. Did wanna go to lows. Of course you'll say. Yes because lows has thing. Dad's love like a pit boss pro series eleven fifty grill with wireless and bluetooth compatibility and a massive eleven hundred fifty square inches of cooking area available exclusively at lowe's or the blackstone starter kit including a flat top griddle cover and accessories for the outdoor cooking experience or give dead the power. He needs to keep the yard looking. 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John no restroom no problem available at bed bath and beyond back so the opium trade the opium war and the afghantistan war who. Let's talk about it then. Okay well one thing. That's interesting about the operations in afghanistan with i. I think most of the american public was on the same page. This was these were operations to catch. Terrorists right. were after terrorists. That was the idea. Yes and they were hoping to stem the flow of terrorism At the time when one unforeseen side effect at least mostly public didn't see this coming was the opium. Production in afghanistan increased their their number of possible factors for this People who believe there's a conspiracy afoot will say that Intelligence agencies or private companies wanted to wrest control of this of the one of the world's prime opium sources and Profit from it but then other people would say well. That's that's a little bit crazy what's happening instead. Is that farmers in ghana. Stan are finding that is more profitable to grow poppies than it is to grow other products right. Oh yeah it's it's hugely profitable and you have to think the thought of going into the opium fields the you know and we're talking. This is one of the largest if not the largest opium production areas in the entire world. Right now ghanistan. So the idea of going there is to stop that money. That would be coming from the prophet of the sale of that product to fund terrorism. And now you've got the soldiers in there and in theory they're protecting it and making sure i guess none get sold or you. I mean i. I i guess i just don't understand the operational like what they're doing their goals. Yeah you know. It's funny because this is a bit of a tangent we can do an entire lead different series about wars but One thing that was interesting to me is that Before the united states became involved in afghanistan There were some discoveries that you and i talked about about. Large amounts of what are called rare earth metals or minerals and some of these deposits rival. Those found in mongolia which is a huge source of rare earth materials. Then in rarer material sort of misnomer because it's relatively rare in earth in the natural world but if you live in an industrialized society it is all around you in your smartphone and your microphone if it has a phone on it then it probably is or if there's electron ix if there's a motherboard just there's some rare earth elements i've heard some people say that that was one of the actual aims of us intervention there. But if you check out our great game podcast you'll see how the soviet union and the united states and the uk before it have always fought over this part of the world. Eurasia central asia has always been a a huge piece of the global hegemonic pie. That no one can seem to hold for very long. Look right It's still really strange to me. That after all that and thinking about all those factors The fact is global Opium production is an all time high. Yeah it's and we know that there was a much earlier war on drugs. We won't talk too much about today because we have a video series about this coming out that you guys should check out if you're interested and that is on the opium wars which reported that much in western textbooks nowadays Maybe because it is such a a grossly unethical war. A quick and dirty reader's digest version. Here essentially the west wanted to do more trade with china and the time right and the problem was that the west specifically britain. The united kingdom didn't have anything that china really wanted right except for opium because they still controlled that in the british empire so they started trying to Make trade with opium right and get the population addicted and china had a problem with that and a war began because of that it was it was literally the drug war. Yeah and you're gonna find out a lot more about that in the video series so stay tuned and then we will be making audio podcast about that as well. Yeah we probably should. Yes so. I should stop talking about the. Let's instead talk a little. Bit more about conspiracies surrounding the war on drugs. Other criticisms are that this creates a permanent underclass that current drug policies in one way or another accelerate inequality. Yeah so now. You have a large part of the population that has to. There isn't really much of a way out of there. Let's say situation than to be low level criminal low level person selling drugs because it's profitable enough in the short term to maybe get you out of that sis that situation but then you've also got i and i don't know how to how to put this but you have a huge amount of job openings for law enforcement for low level law enforcement Because you need people to fight the battle on the other side It's interesting yeah the entry level and just another thing. I don't know if you know this or not. But police officers don't get paid very well for the amount of risk they go through everyday. Yeah that is absolutely true. That's a that's a huge problem. I i would say that teachers and police officers. Emt's and firefighters are some of the most dramatically underpaid people in us society and while we're talking about government jobs Let's go to one of your favorite conspiracy. Theories met and i guess in some cases it's conspiracy fact. Is it true. Matt that government agencies have participated in the illegal drug trade. This is a difficult thing to prove with cold. Hard evidence all the. Who if you if you know this one guy's name you might have clue mr gary webb. He was a journalist who stumbled upon a story that was probably too big for him or for any other singular person to take on so gary discovered that at least allegedly that the cia was trafficking drugs and He tried to get the story out as much as he could. He was largely discredited by a lot of his peers. For trying to go forward with the story I don't wanna spoil it if you don't know what happened to gary webb. I guess this would be the place to hear about it. But i didn't get check out our video series right. Yeah we've made a video episode about this But also there is a film. I still in theaters called. Kill the messenger. Than is all about the gary webb story. That's true and i've heard good things about it. I haven't seen it yet Just because you know we we looked into it so much. I didn't wanna be that guy in the movie theater going. What oh sure hosur because those people are annoying and and we also know there have been other implications of governmental shenanigans involving turning a blind eye to the drug trade. There's been a conspiracy theories about every aspect of the drug trade including the idea that the cia purposefully marketed crack cocaine to impoverished minorities especially there in california as a way of thinning out the population or attempting to and there are also allegations that it was a to be used to kind of break up the black power movement The because you know they are they already kind of at least. The fbi worked on destroying the black power movement by segmenting it up by turning all the different groups against each other and then later on down the road to get cracking. You can't do the same thing when you have gangs formed. I would like to hear from our listeners. To hear if you guys think that there is any proof to that And we're going to start heading out today. But i have to ask that if you were going to change the us drug laws. What would you change in how. Thanks ben for that simple softball question. It's it's so soft. It's like tossing kitten to you in zero gravity all right well. Senator frederick was Would put forth legislation. That would honestly i would probably to. I mean the best way to kill a black market is to make it legal. And i think i think that's true currently like portugal like portugal. It's weird because they've they've become an often cited example but do you think that all drugs then would be legal. Would you want heroin to be legal. I would. This is attache sound. I probably sound like an idiot. Too many of you but yeah i would say i would want heroin to be legal and it would be on a shelf and i wouldn't buy it the same way. Wouldn't you know. Go in and try and get zanex or something. Or i wouldn't go in and try and i don't know get some other high-level drug that i don't need that prescription right now. Yeah i would view it that way and then if somebody really needs heroin because they're going to die if they don't get it you know from reactions of not having it sure then it's there and then i would. Also senator frederick would introduce legislation that would focus on again rehabilitation the idea that this looking at addiction differently not as a criminal activity but as a chemical issue with your body. I see yeah. That's pretty fair. yeah i know. i've been listening to too much russell. Branly i mean he he has really good insight into what it means to be addicted to drugs and you know. He's a comedian and an actor but he's lived that life yet he's got a great show. We're actually pretty big fans truth. Yeah i watch it probably every day. Yeah so we're actually pretty big. Fans years mr brandt If you ever want to hang out Let let us know please. I don't know if you've ever happened to be down this way. Down atlanta way You know what i would like to try to do. Matt were Senator bolan well. I guess Wouldn't really work in a democracy and you'd be a dictator. Okay evelyn dictator. I mean sure. All dictators like kind of benevolent during the honeymoon period writer. Here's i would just for like a year or to make everything illegal everything every single thing. Turn the country into a prison the whole country. Everybody's under arrest. What did you do. Don't answer was against the law. God and then slowly start to make things legal again and let some people of this massive prison so everybody stays in the country. We're like madagascar and pandemic okay and You know slowly ease back into some things and then you know see which one is the trigger point. Larry go start with walking. Outside is now legal again and people can walk outside only between three and four okay. 'cause you gotta start small repeal all this stuff at once now of course these gentlemen. I hope you understand that i'm joking. And that is a terrible terrible foreign policy. If there are any world leaders in the audience today please please please. Please do not make everything illegal just to see what would thank you for putting that idea into their brains now men. I look forward to in twenty years when somebody in power listens to this and goes you know what let's do it but why don't we just make everything illegal But then there's a question what would happen to the economy for instance if if all drugs were legal in the united states There would be a massive shift in the economy And that is something to consider. Also quick plug for freakonomics. If you guys check them have this great. They have this great investigation of how much money a drug dealer actually does or does not make and they quoted it to something around minimum wage before minimum wage got raised. Yeah it's it's sobering and saddening ben. There's this show called drug inc. That i watched a special on not long ago and it focused on atlanta in the molly trade the ecstasy trade in atlanta and it focused on some low level drug dealers and that was one of the main points was just how how not lucrative. It is for somebody. Who's actually in danger of getting arrested and put in jail for years right. Yeah not to mention no health insurance benefits none of that. Just you get cobra to. Ouch so on that note listeners. We hope you enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoyed making it and we want to hear your thoughts on the drug war. If you'd like check out our videos or podcast stuff they will want you to know dot com. Find every little thing we've ever done. I think pretty much. 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Ep. 281 - LiquidApps: The Missing Link, w/ CEO & co-founder Beni Hakak
"Intro guys blah. What is up current nation? Good citizens are having a good morning here. We are joined by Bennie. Haycock the CEO and Co founder of liquid ads. You know we just been shooting the ship for the last twelve twelve minutes and having a lot of laughs and I just made a very interesting noise Trying to start this episode. Where did that come from it I I I don't even WANNA start? I don't even WanNa get into it. Maybe it could be in the morning. Let's let's have a bloopers episode one. Doc something for that gastritis Finish or whatever that was many thank you for putting up with us. I'll just start with that. Yes my pleasure. So He's a survivor of crypto. One on one. So you're open Israel right now. Is that correct Tel reviewed. Actually my office right now. Awesome are employees like seven. PM We're working here. So I just I love it. I love the The dedication in peace of mind and I are no No Stranger to late hours in the office that is for sure so so liquid APPs of course so thank you for having me first of all a lot of people in the space. A little technical people are really familiar with the Internet is bills right We have avid. ISP's and protocal there We have the web services and websites on top of it. Applications we to kind of closer Luke Over how the blockchain was created how it goes to build we started in us and I think that is the most used doctrine today. The number says anyway it's the home of depths in a sense but I love. The boulevards are actually only stadium that the biggest community of developers offers but they're stuck because skill ability issues so it was really important to us. Since we're not maximalist in any way to create the best inter operability solution we could think of to this middleware so we have a mechanism in place to create this cross chain. Decentralized solution that transaction being passed in between these blocking jeff at a high level like the number one goal of liquid APPs is to you know have enabled cross chain value transfers. No I think that this is incidental. You know that's something because you can make out of the service I want to allow developers and users to use blockchain chain as it is the Internet meaning we do not know how websites work you know what maybe Aaron does but most of them they do not think about the back end of the website. We don't know which service servers website is using. We don't know which is the. The APP is using if a developer chooses to use ethereal E.. Ost doesn't matter as long as the DAB works and is cost effective effective in Crohn's fast enough and everything is decentralized and the integrity of the change. Thank you chose is safely kept. This is what we allow be. So this sounds like a open stack but running on blockchain. Nodes it's more decentralized. Is that correct. It's one of the features that we can present. Yes that's so so. Why did you build us? What inspired you to solve this problem in the way that you've done reading question We started delivers we were Lost two-thirds of Yaas and before that I was part of the BANCORP team And got into no ethereal really well On is frozen ponds and when I saw it I understood the opportunity of this web three point. I know eco-system and we really thought me and my pal my partner with you That we should learn more about this technology. I know that there's a lot of criticism regarding eels and governance. But let's look at his former technology for the view right now. It is the best blockchain right now. In terms of transaction costs and transaction speed. When we dug into cold we started? It's still not sufficient so if we're talking talking about mass adoption all the time. That's the teacher. The blockchain entrepreneurs VOCA or two years. It's not really possible. People like if I would go to a friend of mine which is a developer. And don't listen. There's this blockchain thing and it's really cool. They should develop on top of it. The limitations will. We'll get into tell me you know what. Let me know what you get better. Because I can't do it like this and we wanted to create mass adoption by building the infrastructure to allow that. I think what you've done is really cool but going off topic for just a second but remaining on the topic of mass adoption. What's what's the crypto on blockchain culture like they're in Israel? I know there's a lot of projects out there. I assume legislations friendly are. You guys is in really hot competition or is there a lot of camaraderie and trying to build Israel as the next of capital for Crypto. What's it like over there really cool? No question I have to stay Just a big a bit of a broader look of the startup space in Israel that the name startup nation is something career locked in Israel. A lot of entrepreneurs at the most The the highest percentage of startups or copy signed a world so generally speaking in the startup space Israelis Dried star next to many other stars. on blockchain specifically We are I think still in the baby steps like the largest the the brightest developers in Israel are yet to be in the blockchain space. But this is an opportunity as well we have many companies that Israel You have their RND company of Bank. Or based in Israel you have a few other's orbs with our in Israel And I think it's getting more and more common of a Woodward A lot of corporates like IBM are actually basing their Blockchain team in Israel and we just had a great conversation with a guy named Luke Earner. WHO's very heavily involved in space over there? So I'm sure you're familiar with him and then Mile Buddies D- have is based based in Israel. Too that's correct. Yeah we were like. It's pretty funny. Tel Aviv is the capital capital of Israel. Most of the starts are here. But even though it's really really small undocking Less than a million In population we never see each other. And that's how it is too busy working exactly late night like today. I never left the office But we support each other The conferences it's Har here are amazing Lots of good people and So answering your original question. I I think that the Israel can become a key player in the blockchain space specifically with them out of cryptographer 's and academia academia we have here surrounding this space. I'm kind of curious. About like the philosophy behind what you guys are doing. In regards to this blockchain's cryptocurrency solved any humanitarian problems. In in your eyes you know I've been to bancorp before as I mentioned and one of the projects that I was the gold with was community currencies in Africa. Talking talking about the economic aspect of Tokens. There's a lot of things in behavioral economics. That can be a a real benefits to all these poor countries whether it's in Africa or any other place in the world there is a research by by someone called Bernardi. It's hard. He mentioned their community. Currencies are the way for sustainable better economy. We started something regarding his research in Kenya and created a community currency based on blockchain technology. Back then it was interior and gave this the community so they can trade among themselves rather than pay in Kenyan shillings. Which is there yet guernsey and apparently once you give them a means for trading it makes them amount of transaction skyrocket like ten fifteen times a day once you have more transaction debt economy is actually becoming better and better but that's one aspect? The other aspect is obviously monetary systems in general. How do you make sure that Fiat currency or any currency sustain its value when we work and we make love of effort and and there's labor involved? How do you make sure that by creating inflation? By the company company country creating replacing used still get the same amount of money because you cannot control inflation income Stu Fiat currencies the right. There is a central entity. That does that for you but you have no means as a as an individual to factors back so I believe that the libra and facebook coming with this and the fact that they have so many issues right now with the issue instead of their token shows that governments understand this as well understand that. There's something unique and sometimes you even frightening. Yeah there's something afoot in crypto currencies. We saw like. There's a lot of senators right now. L. Sending letters through credit companies and others were involved in Lebron before. It's really interesting to see. Because one of the things it liberates rain we need the world is actually education about blocking many people have not heard about watching before that so I kinda talk a little bit about block producing versus mining. So I I know that you used to be like liquid liquid e OSS right and you guys were top five for a long time of. Es this block producers Yes do you think that deep costs are delegated state. Do you think that is a viable consensus model. You know if what would you fix. What would you keep the same really good question? I think. Mining the worst part about mining is the fact that a lot of processing sitting power is being spent on something which is not valuable. No one cares about the solution for equation but it's an any quesion its purpose is determining who's next in line and when you think about it this way pretty weird because you know when we were kids the other means to decide who's next in games and stuff like that so I think that's what depots has done is to vote for people that we I believe will not sacrifice their name and reputation by manipulating the chain and we head away to check the the one manipulated the chain. So if you do we can take you down you know how. How would you determine if something decentralized you know we all Herzog from your bank or he always says that you can fork something it means? It's decentralized okay that's a good one yeah I guess so. So if you can't fork deep ause if you see someone is manipulating the system it decentralized decentralized enough and by someone who has been there okay. I saw what has been going on. What's been done? How's the government working the the people who were you know on the top twenty one in a sense? It makes people uncomfortable knowing that there are only twenty. twenty-one lock producers that are cycling and Closing the blocks one after the other because it kind of implies like an oligopoly but you you know what but what is mining pools in exterior bitcoin. If that's so but I think it's different in in mining pools because you have mining pools that are made up of of all sorts of different individuals all across the world contributing their Hash power towards a mining pool so if a mining kind of goes rogue or the mining pool operator I should goes rogue than individuals can withdraw their Hash power from that pool unless yeah definitely not no. You're right you're right right it but you can still have a fifty one percent attack using meaningful because you do not know like with zoom what you just said This is the computers are spread across the world and people can withdraw their processing power. But there might the more than meets the eye that is correct. This is that you don't know for certain we know for a fact that there are a few mining holes in the world that operates today. I think it's approximately four or five so in that sense twenty one that you know we know who they are is that better. Is that worse. I personally think that this was like a general but but on a personal note. I believe that decentralization is a spectrum and is not like either decentralized or centralized. There's a gray area absolutely agree it all about the tension between the two and how far far away you are willing to go in order to sacrifice speed or sacrifice costs. So let's let's move on into Back to liquidate for a second if they want morphing in that sense. Oh Yeah Yeah sure when you talk about interoperability in that sense you can create a mechanism where adapt will operate on ethereal. Okay the oldest state all the logic covet will be on ethereal but the processing power will actually take place on a new house and a transaction will be closed closed on theory. And this combines everything and this combined like the trust issue here with the solidity not of some sorts on exterior and that's what can you could link allows dealer friend WHO's interested in getting into crypto currency but they don't know where to start building their portfolio folio. Well we have the answer. It's called copy traitor by e Toro with copywriter. You can automatically copy every trade of e Toro's rose to top crypto traders just like myself or Bryce or Kevin at the exact price point and in real time no need to study up on markets or develop your own strategies prodigies simply just sign up and copy our trades any profits that we make you do two proportional to your investment of course with E.. Toro you get it. Access to the world's most popular cryptocurrencies with transparent trading fees. All in one easy to use APP. Copy the smart money with E. Toro join now at aditorial dot com slash crypto. WanNa one. I mean there's so much you can do with this. What's The coolest thing you've seen built with? Liquid up so far is called moonlight. It's a fiber like Obligation it's coming from the centralized world to decentralize. The company was founded in two thousand fourteen. And could you really quickly explain what fiber is because there's probably a lot of people haven't heard of it it's freelancers platform allowing for people to Kind of present. What they can do and other people or companies can take this services that other people offering like designers dead for higher etc They have approximately seven hundred fifty thousand users. A lot of them are daily basis users and they're using the decentralize role now. They're using liquid APPs to facilitate their storage on. Es I oh wow and what would they do this. I think the essence of this is a competitive advantage advantage. I have one employee. It was banned from fiber. I haven't asked why but interest- interesting because even get banned from platform. You don't WanNa lose all of your Stevie you don't WanNa lose all reputation that you Assembled so far right so this is why you don't if you don't lose your reputation and and see in the process you know that you can. You don't even need to trust the system you're signing in. No one owns your data but you still have the front end of Moonlighting in order to interact with others. I think it's a really really cool concept and what moonlighting did it is something that I believe. More and more organizations are going to do from here on out and we'll have our own data protected that'd from things like banning changing and those both ways because as a company if I'm going and wanting to find a freelance right now I want to know that the reputation that they have is legit. What I see is actually there in I? I know who said what is good for users freelancers themselves and it's good for whomever wants to give them the next gate in. So there's you guys also have a token right yes. How does the token work and how does it also like a crew value and been able to go back the and essence of it is to incentivize this whole ecosystem that has been built? But he's got the data network and this is kind of a getting to talk about. How do all these services coming to play? Because liquid APPS does not provide these services we are at acknowledged company. We build tools rebuild services. And we'd blow them through the world and there are other entities they're cold data service providers. DSP's currently more than twenty five of them across the world and they the one that gives these Serbs provide be ram be CPU liquid. Oracle's would accounts liquid excetera and the way this ecosystem is working is by and the one hand. There's this though. Can we did not give any cost most in initial cost. We did something which is called a reverse auction. That community is the one that chooses how much the value of the token is each every day. That's like how ghost did their ICU. Precisely this is on the one hand secondhand secondhand. There are these. DSP's in day get to choose how much they will try each and every service and there are are the developers users of this utility mechanism and the way they they get service this is by staking these data cans to the speech for example. It's like going to a cellular company and wanting a data the plan. You have if you want at Biran. which is the memory solution? The storage solution. You can have one gigabyte for X. amount of time and it will cost you a minimum. Speaking of a hundred thousand dapper tokens. So so they're developer will go there. One of the portals are about seven Porto's that the community has built. And it will stake gap tokens to a specific depth provider and the system will take it from there. Everything will be happening of course on chain at the end of this quota did that developer will need steak. Once more it's happened medically of course but the essence of this is we created three markets ecosystem. No one is in control of Christ of anything whether it's the services himself or the price of the token And this is how Oh sorry end end endangerment division for these species is by inflation over the Dokan my kiosks as you mentioned being sent a vacation is being spreading flation. pro-rata to the amount of data can stay to the specific pick that service provider. It's pretty confusing I think staking and all that kind of stuff. I think just one of those things that as we move into this new world with theam 2.0. Point Oh it's going to become much more much more clear. Yeah all that kind of stuff I think I think staking just a way for you to receive you service. We ought to losing any a a actual tokens like you. Don't pass along folks. It's like putting it aside but still in your world. That's why I don't like the word lending with lending means that it actually goes out of your wallet in this in this case. It's not it's stealing your wallet but it's like locked. It's locked for a specific purpose. No one can touch it for example No one can take from from you but you can't take from their wallet either for specific timeframe and Allows you to get services so that's great great. Okay I'll I'll look this aside perserve that that sounds interesting enough. It's really fascinating what you've got built over there. It's really a game changer. For a lot of doubt development. And we've really seen in we're real. We're still waiting for that. One killer doubt but if it has crushing compatibility no longer has has to choose really which one to go on so I think this is a tremendous step forward. So let's take a step back for a second though. What were you doing? Prior to Crypto. Are there any familiar signed trends from the past that you really think is GonNa make this industry. Successful violent engineer myself My background is industrial engineering and I had a few companies in the past. I was focusing guide up Becker the date. Hey and I've seen many you know in many industries. Nothing was as fascinating as blockchain. I have to say what rock means a this space. Actually my wife one day. She told me Benny there. A couple of guys were that talks about Bitcoin you want. Do you know what it is. I started researching I created a report. ecosystem in two thousand seventeen when right before the the hype Started my adventure at bank or afterwards. Blockchain is the first and I think only field that allows you to combine technical data in data or technical knowledge with behavioral electronics. Which I I love personally? This was something that I really focused during my degree and everything I read in my little first time is connected to that. He's also about computers and people and there's not a lot of spaces or our fields that are combining these two worlds when we talk about y blocking via think. It's the next thing I believe that starting from the beginning of the Internet The first years of the Internet still now we've seen saying that the majority of money and power is at the hands of a few corporates that are gaining more and more strength strength now and it's really really hard for new companies to rise to these same fields and talking about Google facebook Amazon. And I think the next phase of these interrelations of technology today is going to be done in a decentralized way love it no I I completely agree and kind of just enclosing you know. What's another crypto or blockchain company outside of Liquid APPs or. Let's say at a bank or what's what's another company that we should be paying attention to somebody. That's doing some really amazing innovative work. I personally love effect. They I the company that said. You know what we're GonNa take what we know from the outside world Labor that that is being phased for we're going to take all of the data from They're doing right now. Notation for example of images Komo on chain and they want to allow for a to exist on the chain itself. So people can be gable are able to create their own and hadn't other things in a decentralized way in imperilled to the current system that Google is offering for example on chain A. That's something I haven't really dug into but sound super fascinating. Hope that a good citizens here crypt nation. Go check that out. I can't even wrap my head around that one. I need to take inap- adults. They is infiltrated our blockchain. We'll benny so much for joining us. And telling us all about liquid apps if the the good people want to follow you on twitter or check out your website. Where can we pointed to sure that at Beni Gok at twitter your an-and telegram field three thirty pm me and a website liquid APPs? I O amazing all right everybody nobody we will see you in just a couple days We got some more exciting episodes coming out for you Take care everybody inventing thanks for joining us
The Entrepreneurs - Beni Rugs and Portuguese Flannel
"For anyone that has traveled to Morocco you'll understand a place of incredible colors and textures where the modern is woven together with incredible ancient tradition. And Morocco, it's in the markets more things really come to life for those who have ventured into the souks. You'll know that shopping for a rug is one of the most rewarding experiences you can undertake but in honesty also one of the most frustrating when you can't find exactly what you want. And it's here where this week's started to dream about doing things a little bit differently while working directly with local communities in bridging heritage and opportunity you're listening to the entrepreneurs with me Daniel page speaking of heritage a bit. Later in the show, we'll head to Portugal to meet the brothers behind Portuguese Flannel, a refreshing modern label inspired by their families for generations in the textile business but I it's off to Marrakesh. Robert Wright and burial logo. Navia are the CO founders of Benny Rugs. The Marrakesh based label works closely with the Community of Berber descendants to craft made to order rugs for their clients. The company has grown from an idea to a team of more than thirty people in just over two years with the CO founders having recently started work on a brand new studio, which will feature a cafe which pays tribute to their favourite. Milanese. Outposts inspired by architecture and the natural world. Benny rugs allows you to great your perfect rug digitally with the exact size color material and pattern you want. We'll helping you to visualize every step of the process. Tiberia is an artist originally from Miami with a background in hospitality while Robert Originally from New York City is a former marketing director of where Brad Salute dose. The pair are now using their experienced informed. This new journey here now is our conversation with the story of Benny Rugs. It all started really with. Rubber was the photo shoot. I met him in as one ends up doing when in Morocco you end up shopping for rugs. And it's enchanting process. You sit you up T and you go through piles and piles and piles of rugs. Ultimately finding something that you either love or you compromised on and taking it home really was when we got the roads home. And our friends were asking where we got them right and so we would send our friends basically the WHATSAPP of this family and Morocco where we bought the rods and most of them would go back and forth for a while but they didn't end up purchasing a rod in the end and what we found when we talk to them was that. They felt like they couldn't really find the size needed for their space or the color combination that they love or really a pattern that worked in more contemporary urban interiors and traditionally Moroccan rugs have been made very random sizes in a way along a narrow format that was meant for Moroccan homes, and so we started thinking dot coins. It's such a shame because they're missing out on the magic of. Experience. No. One's telling the story of how these are made and also no one has really reimagined the experience or today's consumer, and so we started to think tonight and talk a lot about you know if we kind of started from scratch and re imagine what it would be like to shop for rug online that look like that was really the first step in it was basically taking our experience. In addressing the frustrations that we had because at the end of the day, you really do end up compromising, find a read that you love but it's to smaller. You see another one that you fall in love with and it's too big or too narrow or not shaped by the end of it. You want a Rod, you're not getting the one that you loved necessarily right and so. That's where I think the customization really came in for us. It's like designing these beautiful heritage quality rugs. Or a modern home. That's fantastic and for anyone that has been to cash or to Morocco the no the incredible color flavor of the place, and it's so fun to go shopping. But at the same time, as you say, there are those issues of finding exactly what you're looking for. Perhaps I'm curious in how you went about finding partners locally because I imagine people weren't super receptive to the idea at the beginning but talk to me a little bit about that. inning we heard no lots be honest and we heard that's just not housing done here. That's a crazy idea and we were like will indulge us. Try It took a lot of convincing in a way basically I. think that was really the bulk of the time it starting the company was eventually found a local partner here in America asu still plays a role today and. Really, working with him find the right. Weaving partner and it took about two or two and a half years. We even had one situation where we thought we had landed on production partner. We produce all of our photos straight samples we have been drying, they were fully complete and. Later disappeared under mysterious circumstances. And we had to really start from scratch again. So it was a process we ended up getting very lucky. So it was mixture of luck and persistence. Really. That is super interesting. I know that you work directly with a Berber community as well, which for people that have traveled to Morocco, they'll know about the incredible culture of people that come and really give this color and light to the markets there and really bring them to the life with the incredible handiwork and things there talk to me a little bit about the production and what that is like a Rhino R. Production is. Entered in the Middle Atlas, we work with one rather large cooperative there, and is about five hours for America at the beginning. We would visit maybe once a month and that was enough to kind of check on things and asphalting mcduck were out there weekly. Now, checking to make sure that orders are being made and organizing the looms and the whole thing but it's been incredible because we started with I think ten looms and maybe Fifteen weavers, and at this point we've got ninety little. About two hundred weavers weaving every day. So it's been wonderful to kind of grow within the community and see these women who are always receptive to working with us and always giving us new ideas on how to organize and what designs work and what don't. So there is much of the process since anyone else and I would say in terms of organization, we have about twelve different until liaise. Each one has about twenty to twenty, five weavers at each location. So it's somewhat decentralized but what's been great is that in the most recent covid related environment, a lot of the tourist traffic, to Marrakesh, as obviously stopped. So some of these leaving as have been struggling a haven't had a ton of work. But as we've been expanding, we've been able to bring a lot more we were onto the team. So it's been nice to be a part of the community in that way. That's really interesting. You launched I believe in two thousand eighteen and it's been pretty quick growth since then I think your team is over thirty people now and probably not all based where you are now Robert I know you recently relocated to Marrakesh. What drove your decision to make that move. A few factors I had been in New York for just about thirteen years army was ready for a change in that sense. But also the primary factor was the business was growing very quickly. I've always been in love with Marrakesh from the first time I came here which was in college and I really wanted to be a part of the business on the ground. As you mentioned a lot of our efforts now are focusing on growing our team here Morocco and on opening a new studio space, which will house our team weavers and a showroom for clients all under one roof and I really wanted to be here with to Marriott's were on those pieces of the puzzle that are coming together were currently in construction mode for the future. Studio. So I think to create physical embodiment of the brand. I think you know when we started searching for the building, we said yourselves if our website which we put so much thought and energy into the beginning if our website became a building, what would it look like? What would the different ages be of the building? So to speak and I think to create that together while being the safe space even though it involves some occasional arguments over a ehlers in the such as been really rewarding. That's fascinating. I'm glad you brought up the studio because it is quite different to think about building bricks and mortar shop studio out of what already exists in digital brands. Usually in past, it might have been the other way around people will obviously be familiar with engaging these days with brands in many cases only online or only through digital channels. So talk to me a little bit about how you go about the continuity of storytelling and brand building when you now are trying to expand that. So I think one of the really poor tenants of the brand that suburbanite constantly back to is the fact that we want to really combine the best of ancient craft. And preserving and respecting the SAROJ with modern. Design and technology. To evolve designs in terms of drawing and references from architecture and from art, and we also want to reimagined what's shopping for a rug can be like online. So that's why on our website, you can basically pick a blank slate pattern or design. You can change the background in the line coloring the rug changes on screen, you can make any size you want. And so in creating the studio, we knew that we also wanted to re imagine what it would be like to shop Iraq physically. So instead of stacks and stacks, bribes and rugs hanging all over the walls, we wanted to display the blank slates and then basically have a wall, a customization law. So to speak where people can choose a height of their pile, their colors, their design, and really bring that experience that our customers have responded to. So well digitally to physical space and then in addition to the showroom. Well but going back to that periods to build on that a little bit, it's also keeping some of the physicality because shopping for rugs the old way it's very physical and spiritual life taking that you're putting them out and wanted to keep some of that charm. So it's still quite physical unit picking your broad you're grabbing samples and placing the next two colors in creating your own combination. So we still wanted to keep that aspect of it, but just kind of reimagined it. So it's kind of taking everything given our own twists. And Talk to me about what the actual studio will be. Then will there be the opportunity to sort of in the traditional way sit down and have tea and looked through rugs and build something that will suit your home or your office your studio. So we definitely will be serving tea. We've also designed a really great espresso bar inspired by a few of our favorite spots in Milan so or a bit more of a coffee drinking company than a little differently have t deft planned seat, but really the building is Jim where we feel so lucky. To have found it. It's shaped around a central courtyard like many buildings and Morocco, are and at the center of the building is a two hundred year old olive tree that we found, and basically around the central courtyard, you'll have the showroom you'll have our offices and really most importantly in the heart of the building is going to be fifty looms with weavers creating customers design. So not only can you come have a cup of tea or his press o design your, but you can walk around and see the weavers creating rugs and really through the process. See the whole process. So the idea really isn't for people to come and browse rugs in a traditional sense because we want people to come design their run and experiences like to receive the rug that you created or you conceive of trip to Marrakesh when you get home and we think that's such an important part of our brand, and so we don't want it to be a traditional retail experience. You walk out the door with the thing that you purchase. It's still about having the rug made for you. How much then are you thinking going forward about the continuity of sort of building that digital experience as well as we've said, it's a bit of a different experience to be in a place inexperienced brand with the physical touch points studio you are building but what's the vision for the digital side of things? So that's a great question. We really want to keep evolving the digital experiences well, because that's always been in our mind what has made us different. So from the beginning, we knew that we wanted really beautiful immersive content and pretty much all the content that we put onto our website. We want to give creative license to our earners whether they be and photography or goody Oh. And really make sure that we're creating art in a way these beautiful objects that take so long to make. So we definitely want to keep our focus there on beautiful content for the site, but we also do have a few tricks up our sleeves were working on. Now in terms of thinking about the question of buying a rug is a pretty significant investment. It's hard to do it just from photos and even from splotches which you can reduce the our site. So we're starting to think down the line of how can we use augmented reality virtual reality and allow Zimmer's to see these rugs in their home before they click. The purchase. Bottle. I just wanted to ask about both of your your background's actually how that is being engaged. Let's say in this new venture at very already talked about being an artist and being involved in hospitality perhaps I to you how inspiring this to sort of help people create these wonderful pieces of work which they're able to customize and change the colors just looking through the catalog and what has been produced. There are some incredible works there. So how does that work for you as a business person but also an artist I think it's incredibly inspiring to see what kind of. Triggers, people's imaginations in the risk the bay area there are willing or not unwilling to take with the purchase the process of building the brand designing the rugs. Now, designing the studio is been incredibly enriching fulfilling and I'm constantly engaged and excited to work. On Ben because there's always something to create always something to do a new problem to solve. Is really our in house designer of most of the design. So a lot of design sketches paintings that he's been grading for years I have now found their way onto rocks and he bar able to take that framework of that structure of a painting sketches and change it with their colors in their sizing scale. Obviously. But sorry, records cards in your mouth I think it's been great for you to see your. Life in a different medium. It has I guess for me. It's still a bit surreal to think about it isn't always register as reality. And Robert I know your background is more in marketing and storytelling brand. So talk to me about how this engages you in creating something to showcase to the world to consumers to people in artistic space in retail, and in quite a lot of things homewares. How's that been for you? It's been amazing. I had the good luck to work or an amazing brand loose, which is an ESA Joel based in Soho and I started there with the founder Nick Brown when the company was really small and stayed for quite a while so I really got to see how accompanying brand ruin, how the little decisions that you make early on e. come much larger over time and really. Have ripple effects across the business. So for me to step out and create Benny with deb's, it's just been a dream come true to have our own business and to be able to have those decisions to create beautiful content and experiences and I think for me it all boils down to storytelling and I always want everything we do to tell the story of this craft and also to tell The story in a way of. A bit of a reaction against instant gratification and mass production, and to really celebrate the beauty of imperfection and idiosyncrasies that are in these routes. Someone describe Morocco as a place where. Following a linear pattern it doesn't exist here. Everything is a bit of Zigzag and even in our rug designs, no line is ever perfectly straight. No design is ever the same as the limit game before it. So for me to tell that story and to celebrate that and to have people willing to wait ten to fourteen weeks for the rug to arrive is a success to me I love that part of. The. Onto that another the recreating the studio I think creating an experience for people. Also kind of. Brings me back to my days in hospitality, which is always wonderful to see someone's eyes light up when they see something new or experience something new. So Really Building a physical manifestation brandon, our next phase is also going to be incredibly exciting into. Very, well, said just lastly perhaps to either of you gentlemen to both I would be remiss not to ask you about just the atmosphere in Marrakesh obviously a little bit different right now but that will change hopefully going forward. We at Monaco are obviously huge fans of Marrakesh, what's it like to be an expert business owners there, and what's the energy like for starting a new business? I think it's incredibly A fertile ground for new businesses the ex PAT scene is growing and it's full of people from all over the world with really original ideas. You know everyone from restaurant tours to clothing designers to artists and I think what's really beautiful is that everyone supports each other it's very tight knit community whilst growing and still quite small. We feel really fortunate to have matt this creative sear that inspire s in that. I forgot to mention we're also including a lot of the brands of these traits into the studio space so. Some friends of ours who are experts here have beautiful concrete tile company that's all produced locally other friends own Marashi Life, which is beautiful clothing company here, and they'll be supplying the uniforms for the weavers and our team that's working in the studio. So we really want to integrate as much of this local community into the space as possible. Going back to what it's like to start a business here. America would. I think is wonderful if you have any creative body and you idea the hurdles getting approved of concept of making your sample originally low here, you could go out and say you WanNa make anything basically in. You can go out finally artisans work with him closely in get that I know whether it's leather ceramics you can have an idea to execution and a fiscal product in your hand within within a certain descending on what it is, you can scale it up in Japan and put up a website and get something going. So it's really exciting to see in speak to people who just arrived in their ideas with their experiences are in at least I tried to help out the new comers. Make the growing pains a little more bearable. Gentlemen, this has been fascinating. It's very wonderful to connect with you and thank you so much for your time. Much, we appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good day Tiberia Lobo Navy and Robert Wright the CO founders of Benny rugs speaking to me from Marrakesh you can learn more about the label at b. e.. N. I. Rugs Dot Com. Next off to Porto. Antonio and Manual McCain's the founders of menswear label Portuguese flannel the untimely death of their father when the pair were young saw the family's textile factory. Change. With the to growing up with little contact with the sector but in two thousand, thirteen as Portugal emerged from the financial crisis, the brothers followed their instincts and decided to try their hand at making shirts. With little experience in fashion, the duo drew inspiration from the family's past as they created unique patterns for their cotton linen and flannel clothing. Today, they're known for their bright breezy shirts, linen trousers, and. Over shirts which you can browse at their flagship Porto store monocle correspondent. Ivan car value sat down with Antonio to hear the brand story. Me and my brother Manuel our origins are related to textile our families being textile since late Twenties Dole started with my great grandfather drama. Ange. Was a sign of very humble people that leave numerator garnered a small village near you manage. So his first job was in one of the biggest textile company maybe from Portugal. Donors saw on him. A few characteristics vets Hereafter year, they started to give more decision power. And I don't know I'll why don't know where I think I, relate this with the great depression because it was in the. Nine, hundred twenty nine that he bought that company Coca. So it was big I move in the text our to make a new modern meal, very new high-tech modern meal. You went to Germany to buy the machinery. Germany England and you need a New Delhi new brand meal called Facial Weisel. My father started working dish Allah. That was on the seventies you received a lot of clients. Mainly, Americans and some English, and he became kind of friend of them. So sometimes when it came to Portugal, the state at our place. So, all of this talk about textiles about fabrics about golfing, some of them were like. Owners of Nice. Brands people that were doing really nice and cool clothing brains. So. All these conversations about exile about design abouts lifestyle. I was like I don't know maybe five or six I. Remember every those clients having dinner there and it was very, very interesting conversations. So my child will that me and my brother, we travel a lot. We talk with very, very interesting people. And consciously I think we absorbable that and boot now on his final on our brand unfortunately, my father died in nineteen ninety. And my great grandfather. These sided to sell always shares to part of the family. So he's brothers. Bought the shares of the textile group to my grandfather. I was then my brother was eight. And we didn't have any kind of. Things to say we are small children in our grandfather decided what to do. So we start doing other stuff. Went. To College but. As I always say many times if you have something in your mind if you have something inside, you have you know I think people born with some kind of. Intuition for something or some kind of I don't know I only know that. I always like loathing that was my thing. If I went to visit to see is spend most of the days looking stars coughing stars. So it was something that really really never left us. So in two thousand thirteen. Me and my brother, we had a dog. We said, we should have something related to textile that's where we like. I think it's the time and I think we have more. kind of a natural inclination. To the final product you know to the things having some kind of your own design if you are like manufacturer, you can't put that. You know you are working for other people that are doing the design for you. So we do not want that. So the way was to do a brand. And a brand. Back then and still today. For Poor people it's not an easy thing. We never did any kind of focus groups, any kind of marketing studies or that kind of related. We did like a collection that you'll we like it. We did it ourselves. So we didn't have money to contract a professional designer. So let's do something that we like. So the first collection we only did shirts, we did forty two shirts. And there was not a specific criteria or design graduate only shirts. We knew that we had the people, the connections that did really good shirts. We knew the meals that did really good. Fabrics. For shirts. and. We said, okay we'RE GOING TO LAUNCH IT WE'RE GONNA launch the best shirts wrong. Our forces of course go. Back. In time for them, I can give you an example. Last summer season. My father and a really Nice Polo. Shirts. My mother said that see about in in easily kind of retro seventies shirt inspire. So we did kind of a golden and we change was a huge success we go to the best. Do Things in the present and that they have some impact in the future. Patterns. Essentially on the flannel once the shacks you know the blades. We have access to a few archives that's going back to nineteen thirties. At the moment in the last collections, we go there to get some inspiration to, and sometimes we see Barton from nineteen, forty two and we changed until we delete for us as a brand special for the beginning, it was really important where that legacy drive access to archive. That wasn't a family since nineteen. Thirties. Compare the values that were selling the first collection to the ones we are selling now. It's difference. Okay and we didn't aim to reach these dimension we reach. Now we were fine selling those like really small numbers. You season, we are into new stars. It season, we are selling be more. We are happy. Only two things better. Really make. Some great grades connections with people that own small stars that were appliance for a long time. I think ninety nine percent for retailers are small business independence stars. We never were really money orientated like. We always did things because we like it. Because you renew that we're solid something we'd quality I think people should buy quality. And should buy for a fair price. The design is really important. The quality's really Barton and the press also is really important and we I think we can give be below three things. Now, I can have fairway. Antonio Magazines co-founder of Portuguese speaking there to Monaco's Ivan value. You can learn more about the brand at Portuguese flannel dot. com. That's all for this week. My thanks to Christie Evans who mixed and edited this show, and before we go, we're pleased to announce a new mini series running alongside the entrepreneurs every week for five episodes. Eureka will be taking a short break and in its place every Friday, you can listen to eight brand new episode of the spirit lives on a collaboration with our sponsor launching about fearless aviators like Amelia earhart. Eleanor Smith and Wiley Post whose thirst for adventure was pivotal in developing air travel into what it is. Today I Daniel. Beach thank you so much for listening and goodbye. The Entrepreneurial Monaco twenty four brought to you in association with loan, gene? As part of this unique partnership launching bring you an exciting new show the spirit lives on. 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