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"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Unorthodox

Unorthodox

06:53 min | 1 year ago

"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Unorthodox

"Refused to take down the facebook video thus violating the sanctity city of their Harvard nece and the board of trustees demanded she take it down when she refused. They expelled her and she is now suing the Harvard Club. Now The New York Post is is not say if Vanessa Levine went Harvard and I know that the L. Club who's extremely good water pressure showers once enjoyed as a young recent graduate New York. I've never felt water. Pressure like the water pressure in the showers by the squash court pressure. You felt that the the the water pressure Yell Club but based based on what I know about all of these clubs. They're not bursting at the seams with with members. They are like elite clubs everywhere. They've had to loosen the membership requirements. A little bit to get member. Pursuade Yell at the Oakland for example there now much less rigorous about when you have to wear a jacket to eat in the grill room and I believe they even combined with like Dartmouth Club in l.. Look not the don was called Chevrolet so these clubs were inviting other clubs with other other pedigrees. Shall we say to merge with them and use their spaces and so you now might encounter people at the club who do not themselves have yellow. Diplomas I I don't know if that's what's happened at Harvard smelling salts outrage so my question is did Vanessa with one s Levin even attend and Harvard and Radcliffe colleges or was she an interloper whose money they were taking but whom they were happy to be rid of not interested in the opinions communists. I have researched the actual rules for Harvard Club members show but rather get the angry mail from Harvard. Alumnus about this story is like hits a perfect sweet spot for me. It's like everything that I find stupid about America a about a particular subsection of life versatile really why are are you going to events with titles like the hundred year war. I'm like there's so much shit on Netflix Israeli grade book. I know they're nice people out there. Don't don't go to an advantage advantage to ask like an outrageous question number one number two really like the Harvard Club. I gotTa tell you though it. That's what the Harvard and Yale Clubs. Is there right near Grand Central Station and again the Yale Club. The water pressure showers Leo. It would flay the skin off your back. It would change everything would change. You've ruined every other shower. Ever only going to be a part of his Kish disclosed Vanessa. Levin should have been on the upper west side twenty years ago living the beautiful pre-nine Eleven sprightly love infused existence assistance of Ed Norton Ben Stiller Gentleman in the movie keeping the faith. Now you'll remember a few weeks ago you and Steffi night we agreed we were going to have a film called. We're going to watch this movie. which is one one of the great Jewish movies of all time It's the story of two friends. Rabbi and a priest Ben Stiller Edward Norton who reconnect with an old friend from childhood with. WHO's growing up into this? Great beauty played by Jan Elf men and love triangular hijinks ensue revisiting. This movie Lille Bentzion Shlomo Yoshua o'malley Liebowitz Liebowitz. What did you think it broke my heart? I was so profoundly sad. I arrived at the city shortly before the events depicted in in this year. Movie take place and I. I really couldn't help thinking how it captures a reality. That is completely alien to the way we live today. People call each other on the phone then they have meetings in person if something goes wrong and you want to talk about it in life. You don't tweet about it. You actually go to a friend's apartment and and you sit there and you have all these lovely late night. Confessions no-one intended the upper west side is robust. There are no stores that are shuttered because the Internet There's no kind of you know existential. Fear and dread that seeped into the city after nine eleven it is just a testament to to hope to humanity to connection to the possibility of faith to transform lives. It seems like a document from another century and in a sense it really is at the fact that one of the running gags is how they mocked Elf men because he carries a little cellphone around like that was the moment when cell phones. Were first becoming a thing and I remember getting my first one thinking you know and I I think I told myself it was a financial decision it was cheaper than having a landline. And I I was doing some traveling for my graduate school work and it was GonNa let me keep in touched on the road and even remember the last phone number. I ever learned because once you get cellphone records you know what's the point of it was John Pitt. partner at Williams and Connolly former roommate of mine. I don't know his phone number now. I guess I guess some years later I learned my wife's phone number and then my daughters and that's it and it really was a time where yes. The whole premise of the movie is they all live near each other on the upper west side and therefore can get together to fight out all of these Dramas that their lives are playing out and they have to do it. They have to cry at each other's shoulder and they have to. When when Edward Norton gets upset by the turn things are taking he goes to a bar even the fact that like? He's drunk in the bar crying to the bartender. Looks like such an anachronism such an actress. The person who made this movie. This really is one of the greatest films of the last thirty forty years. The person made this movie. I think thought he was making religious movie inasmuch as it was about these. You know this relationship between the Rabbi and the priest I think what actually we ended up taking from it vis-a-vis vis-a-vis religion twenty years. Later is the fact that for spirit to survive at all. You need precisely that you need to be able to sit at the bar and talk to. The bartender need to sit on the couch with your friend and cry for hours. You need all these things that life post Internet simply makes if not impossible the really really unlikely and really like I felt post human watching this meeting realizing how much was lost in the last years made me deeply depressed and I don't think I'm just being kind out of like you know. Middle aged man hotdogs cost a quarter. It really felt like a teaching. It's terrific movie and it was. It was a terrific movie Middle aged man right. I completely agree with you and but when I talked to my college students or when I talked to my kids about it they they don't disagree they they watch a movie like this and they know exactly exactly what I'm talking about and which is why in fact. I'm meeting increasing numbers of undergraduates. Who I work with? Who are off social media? I mean they have their phones but they're trying to reclaim claim something of that analog existence and finally say it takes religion seriously. It's not reverend but it's serious and I think that's really cool. I would love to get Stuart Blumberg. Who wrote this movie on the show? He's made a few movies since If Interest Stuart Blumberg Connection Lake Drop us a line. And meanwhile J. Crew. Your assignment is still bill. If you haven't yet go keeping the faith and then send us a note about it. There's been a lot of facebook chatter about it. We want your mail. UNORTHODOX A tablet MAG DOT COM or call. Nine one four five seven zero four eight six nine.

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"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Celluloid Junkies Film Podcast

Celluloid Junkies Film Podcast

08:26 min | 2 years ago

"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Celluloid Junkies Film Podcast

"It was two thousand and four Lisa Challah Dato who already directed her lesbian themed Nineteen Ninety four debut Hiatt and the well received has into drama Laurel Canyon and who was in the process of releasing her third feature film cave dweller started work on a project about sperm donors. Charlie so in Hypoxia Wendy melvoin former band member for Prince's the revolution were planning on starting a family but the help of his sperm Dina and said filmmaker was passionate about the idea she was surprised nobody had tackled the subject before saying in a later interview that it felt ripe for the picking she recruited her friend Stuart Blumberg who'd actually it's been in the past to help write the screenplay he had previous experience as the raw drama comedy keeping the faith from two thousand which starred Ben Stiller Edward Norton and Elf man they drew on both of their personal experiences in the writing of the screenplay Bloomberg's in donating Challah Denko's in picking out the most appropriate possible China father for her children she described that there was a visceral feeling and reading his essays and interviews reinforced it it trumped this idea of is intelligent is he good looking and I thought I'm connecting with him as Challah Denko herself wrote without during a chosen we entered the trying to get pregnant phase Wendy I then after a few months I'd give it a whirl inbetween transporting prior tanks to the gynecologist office running for weekly ultrasounds to monitor my ovulation and getting Tilleke acupuncture I was working on the screenplay but I'd become so myopic and narrowly focused in the search for the right sperm donor though I felt creatively barren fortunately I remembered film school professor's urging us to write what you know that idea freed me and the kids are alright was born by late two thousand live trump Danko screenplay was coming along well with Julianne Moore signed on and production mapped out but the pay poop production on hold in two thousand six when Charles de Tocqueville pregnant with us some colder by the time she returned to writing the film she now had some experiences with Motherhood to which assisted in fleshing out the characters in her story back Landing Oscar best actress nominees more than bending for the lead roles and Mark Ruffalo the film sperm donor Chila Dinka would financing to the tune of four million dollars from three separate investors and filming began in mid two thousand nine it was both set and filmed in Los Angeles and Short I've just twenty three days editing was rushed to ensure the film could premier at the twenty ten sundance film festival which it did out of competition the Hollywood reporter called the film Sunday sensation signed that the festival have been waiting for a breakout hit one that didn't have a distributor well that didn't last long a bidding war ensued between searchlight summit entertainment and the Weinstein Company among others but it was focused features that landed both domestic and limited international rights for four point eight million dollars was just three days after the premiere screening they released the film on July of that same year into just seven theaters and schools highest per screen gross of any twenty ten film to that date slowly expanding over the next month to peak of just under one thousand theaters eventually grossing almost ten times the films the budget the film was a critical Darling Garnering four Major Academy award nominations including Best Picture and best screenplay from the outset Chile Dainty I am to create a mainstream movie about a gave emily that was irreverent funny heartbreaking and true no matter what kind of family have we all go through the human comedy but if the bones are strong enough and the desire is there you can get to the other side still together still a family. Unfortunately film wasn't without controversy with some LGBT advocates disagree with the film's portrayal of his lesbian enjoying heterosexual intercourse and family groups taking opposition to the films normalising of homosexuality but you can bet that we'll be tackling all of that a little bit later so right now Alaska Luke how do you feel about team sports I like Tea I could have said I need that question like I need a Dick in my ass that's a good one isn't good impersonation of at Binny's Yeah I've been practicing how do you do I come across the kids arrive and what we are thoughts on it we saw it together so these we had heard the buzz took forever so when you will about him we would definitely gonna go because it was Julianne Moore Annette Benning you don't really need to sign anymore after Julia Moore with us and and a gay themed film which did not exist back then when we were going to the movies well I mean I completely loved it straightaway we both did we've just walked out just thinking it was absolutely wonderful that it was fresh and real and witty and of a beautifully performed incredibly moving it was everything that you would want to non horror film debate yes but it's interesting to me in a horror movie in that well I guess for us it's like horror movies we'll make so many concessions but with dramas and comedies we make none it has to be great because it's just not now thing is I think comedy's especially you and I are not really into comedy so it doesn't really matter if we find something funny than that film has done its job job I think this film is funny heartbreaking it's an honest look at the trials and tribulations of relationships and growing up in life in general the plot revolves heavily round the spindle father coming into the lives of the obviously to his two children and the couple chose him but that's just a plot device obviously it is the heart of the film is definitely in these interpersonal relationships and the film's strongest moments for me without a doubt the combat stations and the expressions and the anguish that these people face and they false upon one another and I also think it's a bit of a monster movie it's a really important I'm about lesbianism so no matter the backlash that the film received upon release from some circles there is this belief that I have that representation is intensive the law and the representation of homosexuality as it is in the kids are alright is done with a certain respect Denisot and dignity and it's also interesting that Matt Ruffalo isn't an antagonise he's he's a catalyst but he's not an antagonised and there's no one in this film that you would say is just fundamentally awful even tiny characters I mean okay probably the closest would a his friend clay yeah what do you get out of your relationship with Hey who the hell knows because he's horrible obviously his story culminates in him about to go and pay on that dog which ends the French because he just kind of it becomes so clear to what's his name laser laser of course that this person is not someone that he should have in his life well that's right and that's kind of lasers in the film clay is also used as a bit of a plot point to reveal the truth about pol the visit with poll by joining us laser as well because I think okay he's having relationship as as having a relationship with clay he's not that's the way they go about finding that out but definitely his growth in the movie he is signed good saying plays a Dick Yeah I think for me the film is moist about a really a family that's been really connected since they've been family and this is a window at a period of time in this families live with whatever is in they went meeting each other's emotion new needs and say every one of them looked outside the family for the first time and that is what makes the endings amazing is they turn back into each other you said in your introduction that she was going through the process of artificial insemination with her partner and this film is not her experience but it's rejecting or predicting what her experience could look like in twenty years and I think that's really interesting and maybe that's why the film feels kind of fresh and very full with thinking because she was thinking forward as she was riding yeah and I think a Lotta comes out in that one really crucial conversation.

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"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on The Cinema Guys

The Cinema Guys

10:38 min | 2 years ago

"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on The Cinema Guys

"Right. So are tough this week, we get a top this and a trailer trash from this week and honor of the religious holiday. I don't know why we chose this. Well, I. I had a different top this picked and then yesterday, you know, as of this recording of Thursday yesterday was Ashwin day. So I was like, hey, just someone put a post online, right? He's like, oh, you should do this online. I didn't know that was going to. You're putting us on Justin raining. I said a post online to coincide with top this. I see. I missed the words. I saw posing line. I was like, oh. The and then when he asks. It would if it would have been the top this or the question online to go along with that, to me sounds like it could be two different lists. That's right. It's different. Listen, we've ever had before true. One. Earlier, the originalist would have just been his same list from the crown of. Yeah, yeah. All right. So we are doing top three movies with a religious theme with a religious theme. It doesn't necessarily have to be a religious movie, just some could be adding religion, any religion even if it's a you could be like, hey, children of the corn. Satanic religion. Love it, and it's a good movie. And as always, we're going round, Robin from that movie, I will never trust the cornfield. Ooh, I forgot don't I episode since I became cinema Stor. Oh, great. So I get to fix robber. Robber cinematic on me. What are we doing? What do we have to do? Where route. I like what I like I like he was all down. And then he's like, oh, wait. And. Round Robin song. All I'll even start off around Robin. All right. My first selection of my three in no particular order. Yeah, no particular order is accepted as an order. Go is Kun what was very racist, racist. This movie. I loved this movie. It is a Martin Scorsese moving. Okay. Out the. Dalai. Lama. Okay on house. He spelling this. K. U N. Okay. On it. I. Maybe maybe it's Condon. I think it's Khandan Khandan I would look at it and say candy and I would say L it's a movie called. It's weird one Mississippi. Anyway, is directed by Martin Scorsese. We will win what year nineteen ninety seven. It came out the same year as seven years since bet would. So this is also. Kundu up there. Seven years, Tabet, is it? I mean, they're both base is based on. Yes. I mean, it's, it's based on the Dalai Lama seventy Tabet is also, Brad Pitt's character meets the Dalai Lama in his relationship. With the I've seen this one is just his life. This one is his life as a child, and he gets chosen and has the grows older exiled. It is a fantastic. I love the movie and the soundtrack. It's one of my favorite soundtracks ever every minds. Sorry, I know it's the Dalai Lama but his reminded me what he said, I thought of canneries and little Buddha. Nice segue. That's on my list. Is that? Did you actually watch it? So we're going to go to like super. Khandan to Khandan too little Buddha. Buddha buddha. It's, it's because it's so were they like bronze his skin. Yeah. They bronze face definitely bronze face him. And it's, it's terrible embarrassed by this film. It's the first thing I thought of when I heard this list was affair was if you watch the canneries documentary, he gets when it gets that point it was when, like they were trying to rebrand him as a serious actor. They put him in that. And how that is not a rebranding of a series. Well, it wasn't the too long after I wanna know how the agent who's the guy Gandhi Hyun. Oh, we're on the academy Ben Kingsley. Yes. So Bank as Lee had been Ghandi, so there, we'll cannery kit. Little buddha. Those agent calls him in and goes can't I want to sit down? So you saw what, what do you want us sir, sir, Ben Kingsley just play Gandhi Academy Award well, so we have this role for you. All right. You'll be little little Buddha. We're going to bring your skin. All of it even show my friend river Phoenix and see moving on. All right. So little little Buddha. Yes, I have actually not ever seen little Buddha. All right. So I'm gonna go with. I it was really actually hard to get him to three but I'm gonna go with a movie starring really a movie as movie starring bent. Stiller men, Mr.. Not that I don't know if you've ever seen and Edward Norton, Ben Stiller. Edward Norton in the female lead was Darma from Dharma and Greg. But I don't know her name, and it was called keeping the faith. And so Ben Stiller is a Jewish rabbi and Edward Norton is a Catholic priests and they both fall in love with this girl. But they're both like kinda cool, rabbi cool pres, like he's got the cool church going on, like he does like relevant sermons, and the Jewish rabbi does like relevant things and they're not the old. They're like young young cool guy. But they both they both fall in love with this girl and Ben Stiller can't love a gentle. And we're Norton is a priest who celebrate. So there's a lot of problems here as you could see. But it's on. It's cute. It's funny and it's I liked it. I like the, the religiousness of it was good. Okay. Let's minimum three are your number two. Brad, my next pick. Nope. Particular order is going to take us to a galaxy far far away star Star Wars. Jed is not e walks battle indoor because they have a pretty religion. Also, not e- walks battle for indoor. That is not even you walk sound. If you went. That'll be more of a new. You're sending more Jolla. That's jolla. Yeah. All Star Wars. I mean, it's it has a very the. A real song religion. It is religion. They do they do. Call religions religions and ancient weapons whatever. So stars. All right. You don't really need to talk too much about that. Because we've all seen long lines fulfilment home. It someone on our Facebook said that. Yes, they did. I thought Zorg. She's like the weapon, and there is the whole religion. That's based off of her said, phones, not one not two not three but fo-. Thanks this org. Quote them as Justin wait. Who do we just watching a movie that, and it is org? Gary oldman. But what was he just in? He's like everything, but he was in something. You're right. Drac. Brom Stoker's Dracula, perhaps there you go. Reefs semi number q. Nope. Ticket order will be the apostle with Robert Duvall have not it's actually pretty amazing. So it is a very charismatic sort of preacher who finds his wife sleeping with a youth pastor. And he takes a baseball bat to these passers head. And then runs because he he thinks he killed the guy. And so he runs sounds very but throughout his running, he rediscovers sort of his faith. It's really good. It's good. It's the apostle rob divall. There's a cool scene where he does the school thing with the bible. That's kind of neat thing where he does a cool by. Right. So the final selection on the list is a movie that is easily in my top five movies of all time. It's a king will no keenum, heaven, the direct. That's my duty kidding me. I'm so mad. Now, I'm not taking them going to do different ones cheese skiing, having was mine, but as the director, I'm not gonna talk about the non-drug. Here's karen. Kim have in his really good. I've never seen it. It's good. And I remember when we first kind of started getting together watching movies. That's one of those. Actually, the director's cut dead. And it's like you'd need to see this version because it has amazing. It's so good Roussel. It is nothing but it is everything. So good. It's, it's highly highly Orlando bloom, into blue lake Las himself, leaving Templar what, what a green going crazy in the movie. No just the Edward Norton when I was in Israel. What I realize is the Ottoman empire and low in about holiday, like you can't visit that region of the world without knowing about them like that's a huge part of that region's history. And it's a holiday is great, the some of that we actually went to some of the scenes in that movie like the horns of hit a like it's, it's cool. It's a cool if if, if you've never watched kingdom of heaven, the director's cut highly recommended what an. Different about the what's what's is so different directly there, there's almost an hour of outage footage from releasing the theater, which fleshes out a lot tons of the story, especially around Eva, Green's. Character really gives her more weight to a she's going so crazy gives a little more backstory of Orlando. Bloom in his. You know why he's going

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"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Rooster Teeth Podcast

Rooster Teeth Podcast

03:35 min | 2 years ago

"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Rooster Teeth Podcast

"Is now a veteran of Israeli defense force who fences himself, the Hebrew hammer defending his people against those who seek to do har- is this a superheroes me talking. This would be Hanukkah Salvator deeming clause played by Andy dick, but you will offspring of Santa Claus himself. I gotta find that trail for this right now on blaxploitation movies. It's a parody. We are not cool. Hebrew, him cool movies Christians Christmas movies. That's not Christian Christmas movies versus movies. You're thinking of are more pagan. Yeah, you're right now, nothing ducks you celebrates the holiday it's all about I know like Passover movies. There's the prince of Egypt. There's there there are there's a ritual Passover. Yeah. It is. And it's so easy, Rachel massive. Or that's very good. It's like the face a good movie never seen a Scott, Ben Stiller Edward Norton in Gwyneth Paltrow about the ten commandments. That has hip has what. Jonah healthman is the is the female protagonist Janet elephant. Thank you. Mike, Dharma Dharma and Greg. Yeah. Yeah. I used to watch the ten commandments every year because it would play really. Yeah. And it was scare me as a kid with the league. Passover told you you said, yeah. An Hannukah of Hanako. There's the will. Of the Rugrats that they usually on. And that's how most people understand. Entire nineties generation learning Monica from Rugrats. Yeah. It is funny though, because Hanukkah within the Jewish religion is actually not that big of a holiday other holy days like Passovers way bigger. Russia. Shana started the new year, but those are way bigger holidays. But because hannukah's is the same time as Christmas people want to be inclusive. And so they've made it a much bigger deal than what it is. Traditionally it's just interesting not a lot of I don't mind more presence Mela. Thanksgiving movies are Easter movies. I mean, there's there's a lot of Halloween movie. I haven't movies my favorite Easter movie is Donnie Darko. Is that eastern? I mean, it's got that's the only Easter movies. And I think a lot of these are just movies with rabbits. There is a movie just called. There's a three Danamon was just Easter bunny. Oh, I I want to return to hop was that an author. Yeah. He. Shits out candy. That's awesome. Just there's mail like live action. Protect us in that. I think is James Marsden in hop. What they think he's voiced by Russell brand. Oh, yeah. James? Why do I know so much about hop? Russell burnham. I need to know. You know, I need to less about. Oh, everything about this is a good memory. I don't have that kind of skill to like memorize actors and what they're in all blink constantly, though. I it just my memory of like of names goes in and out. Yes. The Lewies switches turned on barred. I had a over thanksgiving. I I saw a ghost or thought it's August go on. I was I was staying it in Dallas. So staying with my brother, but he had his now wife's family in town at his house, but his room his Hong have you been married? Why do you say now why they got married like a month? They weren't they weren't at that time. They'll go after anyway..

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"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Stuff Mom Never Told You

Stuff Mom Never Told You

12:07 min | 3 years ago

"ben stiller edward norton" Discussed on Stuff Mom Never Told You

"My father is Keith hunter, just percent. He's known as the happy face, serial killer. The moment I walked in that house, I felt like I wasn't alone that I was being watched in every room. Just person says he left the body in the Columbia, gorge then cleaned up his house, wash the carpet, washed the blood off the wall what I could and eventually painted the walls of the house owes. And I said, I was being touched dad. Something was touching me. And he said, oh, don't pay any attention to them. They bother me all the time that night. Happy face a new series from house to forks, new episodes out every Friday on apple podcasts or wherever you get podcasts. And we're back, thank you sponsor. This moves us into the modern day and yes, sexism because the fitness industry is rife with it the for. I mean, think about the phrase locker room talk that that is a perfect example of how much sexism is in the industry, and they're also these really. Not great ads for gems. One of them reheats cheat on your girlfriend. Not your workout growth in two thousand seventeen and ad. For Jim in Germany made headlines when it was named the most sexist ad in the country. It was an image of a traditionally attractive woman with her eyes closed sucking on a very phallic shaped ice pop captioned with the words hot hot baby, which in German is highest baby, I think. So like it's an ice ice baby pun. You wouldn't know it's for Jim looking at it. Yeah. Yeah. What to do with working out. They said it meant you could get a nice, refreshing ice pop at the end of your work. Okay. I'm skeptical Sino I hate advertisements where it blends sexy stuff with things that aren't sexy. So it'll be like, are you telling me that this gym is a sex plays like I very confused by advertisements where it's like, am I supposed to have sex with a fan, witch. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. Think about something like Sports Illustrated which historically am hasn't done a great job when it comes to depicting women in issues from nineteen Ninety-six female athletes only accounted for three percent of stories covered. And when the US women's soccer team won the World Cup in one thousand nine hundred nine, several television stations spent more time covering when one of the players took off her shirt and revealed her sports bra than they did covering the actual win. That was so controversial. Oh sports, all sports bra. It's not just adds though twenty sixteen study out of university of Westminster found that the more muscle a heterosexual man has the more likely he is to have sexist beliefs. Like in traditional gender roles, perhaps the more muscular dudes were also more likely to report hostility towards women. So it makes sense that a lot of that attitude would permeate into the fitness culture and gyms where he buff guy would spend a lot of time putting on muscle always important to note difference between correlation causation, things like that. But it was an interesting finding by this study. On top of that activties that put on muscle have historically been dominated by men and really kind of large still are now, this is starting to change a little bit, but very slowly women have been sold fitness as a way to stay thin and tone and men have been sold as a way to bulk up and on top of that, since women are doing more of the child care and chores around the household, they might not have the same ability as men to go to the gym. So let's let's dive into some of the types of sexism that you might encounter at the gym, some of the flavors, if you will, starting with Jim dress code policies. Now we've already talked about dress codes and some of the messaging behind them gyms, often outline rules for how women dress forbidding sports bras, only or ten tops that are quote to revealing yoga pants that are too tight. And we just saw this with Serena Williams, which I have to say pissed me off so royally. Oh, me too. Me too. And I mean, you don't see these kind of guidelines for men. This is usually women don't don't wear too revealing of tops. Okay. And this is one of the biggest problems women face in general, and it's no different at the gym that women's clothing choice is solely to attract meal attention and that the less clothing she wears the more attention she wants, but it's Jim, it's hot, you're working out. Women are told not to dress too provocatively, but we aren't dressing. Provocatively were dressing for comfort for the working out part that we're there for and for women, bigger boobs are buds provocative is hard to avoid exactly. It's just this assumption that men don't have to worry about being provocative or attracting attention, or blah, blah, blah, whatever nonsense and that as women were, they're trying to, you know, stay in shape and be healthy and take care of our bodies. Our number one concern should be, what are men thinking? How are they responding to how I'm dressed, not what you're there for, what you're paying money for, which is to get in shape. And what's kind of interesting about this is so many women have reported. Being embarrassed working out in front of men as one of their main deterrence for going the gym, which we, we talked about a little bit in the front. You might not have makeup on. You might be wearing your baggy t shirt, or maybe you're wearing a shirt that rides up and put your granny panties on full display for all to see older women said that they didn't want to be the source of laughter or potion. So it makes sense to me that some women do dress up to go to the gym to combat this insecurity. Maybe you do put on those nice athletes your pants and he put on makeup just to give you some kind of like the armor we talked about before, just something to combat that insecurity even in a small way. Yeah, I know that there's a lot of folks out there like I see it online where people are like, oh, look at her and full makeup and hair going to the gym. But if that's what makes me feel comfortable, you know, I, you can't fault anyone for putting on the armor that they need to feel. Confident in a world where women are always scrutinized. Yeah, and we're not going to talk about it in much in this episode, but I did read that. Apparently gems are place where you meet people. You know what? It's a brave new world out there. You talking about dating. You phrase that it was like you meet people. Could she be talking about. And here, here's a new one that when it for me, at least when it comes to the dress code in two thousand seventeen middle school sent home a letter about their gym clothes policy. One parent who received a letter posted about it on read it quote, I was floored when I went to the school and was told that my seventh grade daughter would be responsible for bringing her gym uniform home laundering it and bringing it back while my eighth grade son would quote just give it to the school for them to wash since they didn't trust the boys to do the same. I'm so angry either wash, all the kids uniforms are none of them. Don't tell my kids that if he doesn't accomplish something, especially as stoically feminine activity like laundry, that someone else will do it for him. My kids have been responsible for their own laundry for five years. Boys don't wash their take off points, easy as that fail them if they don't do what they're supposed to do. I have never heard of that before. That is why to me. Right. And also. I mean, I know this is the point, but one it completely obscures the idea that there are people who are, who do not identify as boys or girls to what if you were a little girl and you didn't live in a household that has launch facilities like that would be a real problem. It's it's almost sort of. Adding this really weird burden on the girls that goes beyond just like gender. It's also classes like not. Everybody grows up in a house where they have a washer and dryer dislike downstairs in their basement. Yeah, absolutely. My school didn't have gym uniforms, so I'm very have much experience with this at all. I'm just shocked by it. Yeah, my I went to a really small all girls Catholic school. I think we had uniforms for Jim, but we didn't really do a lot during Jim sometimes on nice days, he would just like walk around the block. And once we watched like sometimes we would watch movies like, I don't know much. I have a very distinct memory of watching this Ben Stiller Edward Norton comedy about Catholicism. In Jim. So it wasn't even like about Jim's. It was just. And sometimes even do the. Richard Simmons workouts. Oh, okay. Our Jim, we were sort of playing fast and loose. Gym class. I, I've got to agree. I gotta agree with that assessment before we move on. I wanted to include something that gave me a good chuckle while researching this whole thing, I was reading an article about the fad of athletes better and whether female sports where is sexist and itself, and the author expressed shock that the study featured in the article found that the biggest reason women reported for wearing athletes, your clothing outside of the gym was comfort and not fashion. What we've been. No, no, that must be incorrect that I have to say sometime this is such a like, I shouldn't even admit this every now and then I'll wear. I do have a little bit of athletes you're, I'll wear it around is because I think like, oh, look who's been working out. Like I, I want the smug feeling that comes. Really, I've it's been sleeping and watching TV all day. But if I go out and it's out that people will think, oh, there's a girl that's our life together. She just went to yoga. Now that you mentioned that when I see people and athletes or the first thing I think is that they are going to the gym or athlete like yoga or something. So you're onto something Bridget? Nothing. It makes me think a woman in public has her shit together, like being an athlete and carrying a yoga mat under her arm at ten AM on a Saturday. I, yeah, that's true. The article other than getting that well, a little wrong, I would say, did make some good points like the shift of women's sports, where from performance focused to looks focused and often a sexualize focus, something that we don't see reflected in men's sportswear and that women's sports where is more expensive. Anyone who's had to buy a good sports knows that. Absolutely. We have some more and more stuff to talk about here. But first we're gonna pause for a quick break or word from our sponsor.

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