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"ben rhodes" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air
"Obama had been terrible president you'd gotten and just fallen on his face around those people actually would have been okay with that. Obama's success was much more trigger. To raise you know really would have been like. If you look at the things, they hate the most about Obama, its biggest achievements, he gave people healthcare like. Done All this stuff kinda got mainstream mainlines on social media and you know here we are. And then Fox I was just talking to Brian stelter about his great book a hoax where he really talks about the relationship between Fox News and trump goes for that. But I remember Fox News kind of made a bit of a transformation there because it was more like the way you described it because if you look back Bill O'Reilly feels like Walter Cronkite now compared to what we're Fox's but they were key and Hannity started going in different directions were even when O'Reilly criticized President, he did interviews With, Obama. You know he always seemed a lot more fair for somebody on Fox News in the way that he questioned but the Hannity camp, they were more on the conspiracy about Obama and promoting that, and I feel like Fox, news kind of gravitated towards that and kind of open the for the trump conspiratorial type of politics. That's exactly right. Larry. So there were more guardrails at Fox. You never know eight when some crazy show it happen I remember after Clinton nomination he and Michelle thumbs and one woman. This as a terrorist jab is a terrorist fistula views but the thing is Fox had to walk back from that and you know they've kind of they put a lid on that stuff. Today that would barely get noticed right and and they demanded I think a deliberate decision after he was elected, you'll recall Glenn. Beck. The first big. Fox personnel on us and it was all conspiracy theory.
Pompeo says he didn't know fired IG was investigating him
"Once again today. Mike pompeo refused to say why he requested the firing of State Department inspector. General Steve Levick. Who was conducting multiple investigations involving secretary of state? Mike Pompeo that includes Mike pompeo's use of a federal employees at least one federal employees for personal errands and Mike Pompeo's approval of an arm sale to Saudi Arabia. But today Mike Pompeo claimed he has no idea what investigations the inspector general has been working on. Mike pompeo knew about at least one of those investigations because Mike Pompeo refused to be interviewed for one of them and instead submitted written answers about the arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Nbc News reports that Mike Pompeo held two dozen elite dinners at the expense of taxpayers attended by influential Republican Party. Figures and leaders. Who would be likely contributors to a POMPEO presidential campaign in twenty twenty. Four Jars Cussin' now is Ben Rhodes former deputy national security advisor to President Obama. He is an MSNBC political analyst of been the A we have a secretary of state recommending requesting the firing of the Inspector General in his department who is investigating the Secretary of state and you have a present the United States who is trying to affect that firing claiming he has no idea what it's about. Yeah I mean it's truly extraordinary. Lawrence in the common thread is speaker. Pelosi alluded to is. They don't like anybody looking into what they're doing. They don't like Congress investigating napping oversight. They certainly don't like independent Specter's general looking what they're doing. There's an irony in this lawrence as well. Mike Pompeo was one of the leaders in the Republican Party in Congress who spent Literally Years Investigating Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server when she was secretary of State. Now we know of multiple potential wrongdoing Mike Pompeo the use of State Department resources for his personal political interests as well as perhaps flouting the laws and protocols without arm sales go forward and moving forward with significant transfers of weapons to Saudi Arabia. So there's a lot that the American people deserve to know and trump in Pompeii or doing whatever they can to prevent them from knowing how their tax dollars are being spent There are reports indicating that there were senior department officials who were advising the secretary of state not to use an emergency waiver for those arms sales to Saudi Arabia and go through the normal process of consultation with Congress That seems to be a certainly in in in in policy terms and in effect the most serious of these investigations that were aware of its very serious lawrence and you already situation where Congress has voted multiple times to prevent the United States from continuing to support a warn Yemen lead by Saudi Arabia that has killed tens of thousands of people in that has failed to achieve any of its objectives and that is in support of a Saudi crown prince who brutally murdered a Washington Post journalists. This emergency declaration doesn't make any sense Lawrence. It doesn't hold up because the situation in Yemen has basically been the same for several years. Nothing is different this year than was the case last during the year before. And what it seems to me is the way these arms sales move forward is the State Department has to license him and then they have to notify them to Congress and Mike Pompeo just decided he didn't want to go through the normal protocols which are in. Us Lockyer up so this is a separation of powers issue a constitutional issue and it also raises questions once again learns as to why this administration is always eager to do the bidding of Saudi Arabia despite all the very real concerns that we should have about the conduct of both the warned Yemen and the nature of Mohammed bin Salman. And but I want to get your reaction to the reports we have about these dinners paid for by the taxpayer which clearly have a political intent in them. An clear possible future campaign intent in them. Well there's
The Current Situation In Iran: How Did We Get Here?
"Get to the terrifying news of the day President Trump essentially started a war with Iran when he ordered the assassination of Iranian major general. Qassem Soleimani who was the second most powerful figure in the Iranian government in response. What's around has vowed to retaliate against the United States in? US forces serving abroad. They've announced they'll be restarting their nuclear program. The Iraqi parliament voted to expel all US. US troops from Iraq and we've been forced to suspend our operations against Isis in Iraq. A meanwhile trump has responded by sending another three thousand five hundred troops to the Middle East and tweeting that if Iran retaliates quote we have targeted fifty two around the incites representing the fifty two American hostages taken by Iran many years ago some at a very very high level and important to Iran in the Iranian culture in those targets in Iran itself will be hit very fast and very hard targeting cultural sites is in fact an internationally internationally recognized war crime so lots to unpack here guys. Tommy let's start at the beginning. What do we know about so far why this happened? Y did trump make this decision. Well it depends on who you believe. Okay The Washington Post reported that Mike pompeo has been pushing trump to do this for many many months. And you know back in the day there were a bunch of senior officials in the trump administration like Jim Madison Rex. Tillerson the secretary of State. who were cautioning less caustic line on didn't want him to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal but over time all these reasonable got pushed out the right-wing hardliners are in in. And so here. We are now the stated reason that the trump administration did this is. They said that there was an imminent threat from Qasim Sumani from Shia militia groups in Iraq. That we're going to attack and kill. US forces Everyone who has seen that intelligence so far people quoted in newspapers people. I've talked to you said that that that does not hold water They've seen nothing that indicates there was some imminent threat. which would justify this strike legally or you know rationally so it just seems like something that a bunch of nuts wanted to do and it sounds like the sort of would immediately precipitated? The decision was the fact that there had been There was an attack that killed an American contractor in Iraq. Right this is the problem. Their explanation is all over the place. They one of these militia groups K. H. A. Shia militia group in Iraq killed a US contractor and wound servicemembers Kirk in response to that the US military hit a couple of sites associated with cage training sites weapons depots etcetera. You'd think that response was to killing. US contractor but then they went in killed Qassem Sumani and the justification for that was an an alleged imminent threat of another attack but even in the way pump goes on television lies obviously but even in the way. He's lying to be admitting that that's not totally true. Because they he's he said something along the lines of He was in the process of Planning attacks against American interests in two things about that one. That seems seems to have been a good part of his job for the better part of seconds. And the second part of that is He's not the actual. He's not pulling the trigger. He's wearing a suicide vest right. He's he's he's just a he's involved in the chain of command and one other part of this. No one has been able to answer at all is how does killing This figure prevent those attacks. Why aren't those? It was a tax more likely than not less likely to happen. Now that this person is it also seemed like there was reporting in the New York Times in Washington Post as well that in retaliation for the contractor you're being killed Trump ordered those set of strikes and then there were protests outside our embassy in Iraq. Yep and it said there. Apparently trump was watching those protests and then got really mad and decide that he wanted to do another strike. What is surprise that trump was watching cable TV and it made him angry? Although this time with this sounds like what happened with Mike Pompeo and and Secretary of Defense Esper- flew flew down to mar-a-lago and they pitched trump on a menu of ideas to further respond and the New York Times reported that on the menu was killing Soleimani money and that that very extreme proposal was only put on there to make the other ones look more reasonable and everyone was shocked when ultimately decided to do it but no one apparently push back. That was the craziest anecdote of all the New York Times that they were like. We'll just put this on as an extra so and and you know in some people may have seen this. But both the Bush administration and the Obama Obama Administration basically passed on this option at times as well because and the reason they did is because they were too concerned both administrations even the administration that took us to war in Iraq were concerned that this would escalate tensions in the Middle East into full blown. War Yeah Before we talk about what a stupid and dangerous move this this was tell me what do you think about the debate over whether it was legally justified whether we call it an assassination. And how much do these debates matter. I mean they matter if you care about international law so from that like it's a complicated case They're sort of like a common sense like lexical. What's in the dictionary definition of assassination? And then there's the definition of assassination which has been banned by the US government under executive orders that date back to like the when we used to give Fidel Castro explosive cigars and attempt to take political figures. You're not supposed to assassinate political figures period. the debate about in so like but Sola money's is a complicated case and that he's like the number two guy in their system but could force The organization he ran is a US designated terrorist organizations. There's no doubt that he helped build this play. This big role role in creating and supporting these militia groups in other malign acts across the globe basically. But there's no formal state of war between the US and Iran so there's no basis ACIS to target him on that level right like during the Iraq war the US targeted Saddam Hussein remember deck of cards the figures that they'd go after right so that the legality of Whether or not it was legal or justify takeouts lemani hinges on this intelligence. None of us can see these at all is about this imminence question got it but I mean I think reasonable people should say this was an assassination so I mentioned some of the consequences that are already playing out. What are some of the potential consequences that worry you the most both in short-term medium-term long-term Blake I worry about Iran on directly targeting forces in Iraq or Jordan or Kuwait or diplomatic posts in Lebanon. Worry about these Shia militia groups Lebanese Lebanon's Hezbollah came out today and said that their targets are going to be. US military personnel and they're not going to target civilians so when the head of Hezbollah sounds more reasonable than the present united United States on twitter. That's telling you something There's also these militia groups that might just sort of pay fealty to the money and not coordinate their actions with The Iranians and take action that way just because they're pissed and then there's also the fact that we had to stop the counter isis operations at a time when Isis has has had a bit of a resurgence because of our pull out from serious. There's a lot of ways this can manifest. How serious do you think the concerns are about cyber attacks against the United States or potentially a terrorist attack against the homeland? It's hard to know it's hard to know. I mean you look at what they've done what they set already about their nuclear program. They announced that they're no longer going to who abide by the enrichment restrictions in the JCP away in the Iran deal. But they said they're gonNA continue to Work with the IRA and allow them access test to inspect sites and things. So like in that instance if you're looking at that as a signal there sort of like tiptoeing out of the Iran deal. They're not like immediately announcing that they're enriching ninety eighty percent create a bomb so it seems like there's sort of an incremental response not some big blockbuster thing it seems that there's some F partout seem reasonable to international community to try a seem as though they are the victims in this absolutely. I think you're right well it we mentioned this yet but it does seem like the inciting incident for this entire crisis is trump ripping ripping up the Iran. Deal back in two thousand eighteen. Yes I mean I thought Ben Ben Rhodes on our pod. Friday walked through the timeline from the Iran. Trumping out of the Iran deal today. And I think it's a very compelling case he also wrote a piece for the Atlantic I mean I think we would be in a stronger position today. If the trump if Iran's nuclear program was being managed by a diplomatic agreement the fact that it's not everything more complicated well and I think an important point here is how you felt about the Iran. Deal in the first place whether it was a good deal or not Once the Iran deal was in place even trump's own Administration his own national security team. warned him not to get out of the deal real people who weren't necessarily fans of the deal the first place at once. We're in the deal. You shouldn't get out of the deal and he fucking did it. Anyway against the advice of most people in his administration and the whole global community in here we are by one of the reasons to non pull out was the fear that it might lead to this crisis. Right you John. Bolton now that he's left administration is very clear that his goal along has been regime. Change right so they pull out of your own nuclear deal where Iran agreed to all these restrictions on their nuclear program in exchange for economic relief from sanctions actions and instead of getting that relief they get more sanctions in an effort to crush their economy and lead to regime change. Of course over time. They're going to start lashing out. It shouldn't surprise anybody. So let's talk about how the administration is responding to all this Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was out on all the Sunday shows when he was asked by. Chuck Todd about the potential for around to retaliate. By killing Americans pompeo said quote. It may be. There is a little noise here in the in term but that America will be safer in the long run later. Donald Trump was asked the same question and and said quote. If it happens it happens. Tommy I know you have some Some strong feelings about pompeo Sunday show appearances because I was texting. You injured it before I melt down. I'm just curious what you guys think would have happened if Susan Rice said there was a little noise in the interim I saying like this those those statements both both from POMPEII. Oh and then trump saying if it happens it happens like this. President Obama would've been impeached within a day for saying that. I can't even believe there's there's such a there's such a glibness to it at but it is also it is. They're kind of whatever they're they're sort of cost playing as tough tough guys and so for them. They're they're trying to go out there
Iran Prepares to Violate Uranium Limit in Nuclear Deal
"The Pentagon's announce that at least a thousand US troops are being sent to the Middle East to counter any action taken Veyron, the Pentagon chief says they'll be there for defensive purposes. Meanwhile, Iran's announced plans to break the internationally agreed upon limit on its low enriched, uranium stockpiles by the end of next week. Former deputy national security adviser, Ben Rhodes says the situation was predictable, the problem is, this is what we always said, you either have nuclear deal, like the one we negotiated in place. Or you're stuck in a position where Ron is once again, escorting its nuclear program, and we have to make the choice of whether or not military action, roads were speaking on
Four U.S. cities sue over Trump 'sabotage' of Obamacare
"Other way to help you experts identify them, we'll talk to former Obama national security facial. Ben Rhodes says, this may end up being another Trump photo op morning. Joe is coming right back. Four cities are suing President Trump over his promise to let care implode using his words. After congressional Republicans failed to repeal the law last year, Heidi Priscilla. This is your exclusive reporting this morning. What more can you tell us? That's right. Mika lawsuit is being filed in Maryland federal court by the cities of Columbus, Cincinnati, Chicago, and Baltimore today, arguing that Trump's efforts to make good on his promise to quote, let ObamaCare implode violate the constitution Trump is waged a relentless effort to use executive action alone to undermine and ultimately eliminate the law. The complaint charges according to a draft obtained by NBC news, the suit alleges that Trump's directive ordering agencies to rollback is much of the Affordable Care Act as possible violates article two of the constitution requiring the president to quote, take care that the laws buffet finally executed. It also will rely. Why on a list of Trump's tweets indicating his intent to unravel the law according to a lawyer that I talked to involved in the case, and if successful, the suit would prevent Trump from undercutting insurance markets and issue an injunction that he implement the law faithfully. So this has been going on and building for the past year ever since congress tried numerous times in failed to repeal the law legislatively. Jonathan q lot of talk room for good reason because we're talking about a foreign power trying to destroy our democracy about the rush investigation about Putin about a lot of other issues. But I Don the campaign trail. Aren't Democrats hammering healthcare. Most of all. I know Claire mccaskill talking a lot about pre existing conditions and Donald Trump owning to take away that. That benefit from working class middle class Americans. Yeah. Democrats have an abundance of options in terms of how to run this campaign this fall. But I think that we're a lot of strategists are coming to the pinion and I'm sure Heidi pointed this as well is the idea that as much as yes, Russia would resonate in presents itself as a a real danger to this democracy, but it's things like health care that are the issues where that that's Democrats feel like they can make more inroads here that those those are things that are affecting people's everyday lives in their pockets..
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Kickass News
"Hi i'm ben mathis welcome to kick ass news for nearly ten years ben rhodes saw almost everything that happened at the center of the obama administration i as a speechwriter then as deputy national security adviser and finally as a multipurpose aide and close collaborator he started every morning in the oval office with the president's daily briefing traveled the world with obama and was at the center of some of the most consequential and controversial moments of the presidency from waiting out the bin laden raid in the situation room and responding to the arab spring to reaching a nuclear agreement with iran leading secret negotiations with the cuban government to normalize relations and confronting the resurgence of nationalism and native ism that culminated in the election of donald trump now he writes about it in a new book titled the world as it is a memoir of the obama white house today ben rhodes comes on the podcast to talk about how he survived eight years in the white house his close friendship with the most powerful man in the world and what it was like to travel the globe representing america then shares how the arab spring taught him that sometimes hope and change half to take a back seat to pragmatism in the big picture he reveals how he secretly worked with the pope to reopen relations with cuba how sleeplessness lead to some frayed nerves during the iran nuclear negotiations and how wild conspiracy theories around benghazi continued to follow him even today he throws cold water on trump's accusation that president obama ordered the f b i to investigate him discusses how he and obama emotionally processed trump's victory and talks about the somber mood as president obama tried to encourage other world leaders on his final foreign trip after the election bless he weighs in on the syrian red line hillary clinton's private server sanctions against russia and trump's north korean photo op coming up with ben rhodes in just a moment.
Martin Truex Jr. brings the horsepower at Kentucky
"Line on the radio network with the latest news and opinion and here we go on the race line race rap thirtysecond honda indy toronto in a scorcher it was when everything came unglued though in lap thirty four when the leader joseph new garden got bogged down it off grew tire marbles new zealand's scott dixon shot up into the lead knee held it there for its third one of the season third in toronto simon panel second and podium third in his hometown race for robert wiggins how fine is this his oakville team may jeans hinge james hinchcliffe other fourth charlie kimball fifth montreal zach claim into mental good story here to started dead last twentythird scored fourteenth healthy weekend throng for the thirty second running of the streets of toronto for the indycar series just might be the best one we've seen in maybe twenty years i don't know what you think i've thought it was pretty good indycar points into middle high auto the toronto in just about doubles dixon's points lead he leads new by sixty two coming up in our guest segments detail rundown of the finishing order then toronto star wheels norris mcdonald will join us for some expert analysis of the chase by the lake and thanks to all who stop by our broadcast location on thunder rally with our toronto affiliate to say hello and benches with us darn hot but darn good indycar notes if you don't mind i wanna go back a page to hinchcliffe win on the iowa oval the race ending under caution something nascar considers burning at the stake worthy heresy hinch has no trouble with races ending under caution but you gotta be careful this is rooted in fuel if the track is clean with two laps to go then yam forum i don't i'm not a big fan of like doctoring the length of a race just to make sure it ends under green for me there's too many races that are fuelled races for us we run out of fuel crossing the line and if all of a sudden a yellow fly comes out with to go and ends up becoming a green white checkered erases erases done and i don't i don't think that's fair we go into it knowing how long it's going to be and that's what we planned for so that's what i want to run the exactly fuel aside you are manipulating the finish of a race when you add laps to try and ended under green and i don't like that at all and i think you all know that all the indy lights tidy up toronto began to indy lights award in arusha one those candidates kelly was fifth and sixth master hadas peres well arenas vk one both of those candidates parker thompson finished eighth in both of those endeavors nascar cup under the lights again this time in kentucky and martin to x junior and canadian crew chief copan dominating proceedings leading all but ninety three of the two hundred and sixty seven laps win number four on the season for true junior the defending champion ryan blaney second brad keselowski third kozlowski still winless the season that's a surprise cup points in new hampshire kyle busch who was fourth at kentucky leads harvard who was fifth by fifty nine cup clippings or plans come together it seems at charlotte pretty nicely for the september thirtieth wroval four hundred i playoff road course in nascar history longest road course in the sanction as well two point two eight miles seventeen turn road thing thirtyfive feet of elevation change that uses a portion of the charlotte oval kind of like what they do daytona it will be the first cutoff race of ten race cup playoff nascar xfinity at kentucky the christopher bell canada's alex labbe thirtysecond with some contact trucks ben rhodes took that candidate stuart friesen second that i win is coming and coming soon nascar canada avocado indie that went to andrew ranger from one week up for germany twentysecond lewis hamilton accepting the apology from kimi raikkonen for their first lap crash off the start of the british grand prix and wants to move on oh we're so happy to hear this lewis was clobbered by the ferrari driver turned three at silverstone which dropped to eighteenth but wasn't a treat ever watch him charge back through to.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Monocle 24: Meet the Writers
"I think he was suggesting that you know we can't take for granted progress that frankly going forward we have to the obama gacy's not done people need to run for office you have to get involved we had to make sure that the country in the world looks more like the obama brand of politics in the trump era politics ten or twenty years from now i mean in his final foreign speech as president he said the next american president and i could not be moved different but american democracy is bigger than any one person do you think that still holds true or is trump basically screwing the world it doesn't look that that way today i take a pretty pessimistic view i think he is diminishing the institution the american presidency but the pendulum swung dramatically from obama to trump it can swing dramatically back i still believe that the orientation of the united states i don't think trump represents the majority of the electorate never mind the population the united states i still believe even if you look at our elections now they're more young people running women running people of color running i do think that this is going to look better in in years i think trump can do a lot of damage and i think we shouldn't be we shouldn't undersell the extent of the damage that he can do while he's there now obviously it's no longer the president it's not his job but why is he silent is there anything that he could do is doing that would reverse this appalling situation so the main reason i talked about this a lot still he believes that if he was out there talking a lot it's not just that he's trying to respect the the norm of past presents not criticizing your successors as more to do with the fact that if you is out there that emerging voices couldn't step forward that he would take up so much oxygen if he played the role of kind of what the opposition leader does in the uk for instance we need new national leaders and democratic party like part of the problem under the obama presidency is he was such a big figure in the clintons took up so much base there was nobody else we can repeat that mistake and so he's trying to provide that opening he'll be out there campaigning in the next two elections he he's spending a lot of time behind the scenes trying to build up the infrastructure of the progressive movement in the united states and to help get young people involved in politics and the united states and around the world but he can't be the frontman anymore he wants other people step for why publish this book now you know the most important thing to me was to tell this story and when i left i i didn't know that i wanted to write a memoir and frankly i didn't like the genre political memoirs in the united states tend to be pretty depressing it's like a mix of here's a list of meetings is in scores settling but in conversations with people i realized that that the experience i had was essentially coming story i'm into return you're kind of early questions about as a writer i was twenty nine when i walked in the door and thirty nine when i walked out my life was transformed i wrote this book in part to figure out what happened to me you know holden coalfield of politics hopefully suddenly more mature version but i mean it was something to that of just like i knew that if i did reasonably well that a reader could figure this world out better than through my eyes and they could through the eyes of a public figure like hillary clinton or john kerry who's distant but you know i might if you could enter the experience through my my own you could both have this coming of age dory and i could show you here's what obama's like a three dimensional character here's what it's like to actually work in the white house here's what it's like to travel around the world negotiating with cubans and rain iran so to me the opportunity was more the literary when the political one of telling the story having a kind of traditional coming of age story but through the context of politics the but honestly the most important thing is read a book like this in part figure out what happened she'll finally than president obama us to the.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Monocle 24: Meet the Writers
"You came to britain went to buckingham palace mcqueen there were some lighter moments tell us about your involvement with brexit though because obama told you that boris johnson was britain's trump and he'll said that some conservative circles in washington have more in common with putin than with him yeah so what happened is we ravenously anti brexit we thought that was bad for britain frankly thought was bad for the united states the camera people said they thought it'd be helpful if we came and made the case further remain campaign and so we here bomber wrote an oped actually wrote for him making the case against brexit that same day boris johnson wrote a hyperbolic response in which he suggested that obama's hostility to brexit was because he had kind of kenyan hatred for the british empire's you know i forgot exactly phrased it and but it was if not across the line minimum racially tinged an obama really was pissed to use an extra word and said to me look the blackeyed doesn't like the brits that's really not a good look for boris here you know i said well they're more subtle back home in terms of the dog whistles the racial dog whistles and and he said no no he's there trump and i said well better hair but what he was really referring to is at boris you know he's more than trump obviously more bain but he's expressing this kind of nationalist nostalgia make britain great again we can turn back the clock and keep immigrants out in reverse globalization and and so his message was you know bomb thought quite similar to to trump's in that regard ultimately in both of those campaigns though the emotion was with that brand of nostalgia though the rational case you know here's why brexit would be bad that we need here in the cameron and others are making obviously wasn't enough to overcome the kind of motion impulse that the brexit tears were i think often untruthfully in their promises stirring up in in in the public well as far as britain's trump let's talk about america's trump you write about the last days of the presidency and trump's inauguration platform being erected you describe it like coffin for your own funeral yes yes i felt like the scene as a lie dying the faulkner book where the they're building the mother's coffin outside her window he did make this point bomb in the book that putin and there was a common thread from putin to brexit to trump you know obviously gradations of of what i find to be more reprehensible but all of it is expressing this tribal backlash to a more integrated inclusive world and to see trump get elected it was worse than seeing just a republican elected it was kind of someone who stood for the opposite of everything bombs at i mean but he talked about chide disney president obama he said what if we were wrong maybe we pushed to maybe people just want to fool back into that try yeah and i think that was after the election and he went to these various stages i describe in the book of trying to figure out what happened like everybody else but he's doing it from the perspective of having been the first african american president and i think what he's referring to there we're writing the limousine and his last foreign trip he made this jarring comment what if we're on i think what he was getting at is at progressives presume the things are gonna move in the right direction you know there's an inevitability to society growing more inclusive and open and divers and that the backlash to that at home and around the world proved more potent than progresses that intimidated and that's not a reason to compromise your beliefs frankly i think in the american context and probably in the remain campaigns context it was a failure to turn our people out you know.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Monocle 24: Meet the Writers
"The moment we're living in wise important what's at stake in where do we want to go from here and make several points but he would narrate that outline then i'd have to write a speech then i would have to share that draft with a lot of people political visors policy advisers cabinet members and then suddenly you go from being a writer to an editor because everybody wants to turn the speech into their their words you know they want to make this policy point or they wanna sandown this edgy pointed amo wants to make and then it goes back to a bomb and he gets very engaged in the text and on a speech like that he added fifteen twenty times writing in the margins rewriting paragraphs and what i learned over time is that if i took too many edits from the other people he would get annoyed he didn't like his voice he understood it was very critical that we had to change this phrase because we don't wanna start a war or something but i ended up having to say not a lot of people this is not what he wants to say this is what he wants to say i had influenced but i actually think some of those people thought i had more influence i was doing what he wanted i was preserving his voice in his ability to say things the way he wanted to say them i wasn't kind of laundering my own views him i was making sure he was expressing things he wanted and that was a complex process because you're balancing a lot of different equities political policy and otherwise but ultimately if the statement was nothing tickly what he believed he knew it wasn't going to wasn't a work you say that you diverged with him on policy opinion only twice what was that there were two in particular i think on egypt i kind of been in the cohort of younger people who'd encouraged to embrace the protests at the outset of the spring and he had and he had this dramatic break with mubarak the president egypt but then the kind of us government reverted back to four of like we deal with the military were distrustful of democracy in egypt and obama very much kind of wasn't willing to take that on and i it wasn't as egypt as a general matter on the air spring in twenty twelve i was kind of out of step with him he had basically taken the lay the land from egypt libya to syria and determined like this is not internet will and we're gonna have limited capacity to be able to change things on the ground i think i was more hopeful and perhaps naive props idealistic that more intervention from us could make a difference in in those places i described the process in the book essentially kind of coming to his point of view through mixture of inevitability events and just kind of facing hard reality that was one the other was around the russian intervention in our election i had seen russia developed essentially information warfare capability in ukraine where suddenly they were creating huge volumes of fake news using social media bots and other capabilities and flooding european news feeds with it and they were doing this in the us election sixteen the us government's response very much focused on cyber security you know they hacked the democrat party they released emails and we weren't describing people this volume of fake news been created obama felt like he wasn't going to be the right messenger to do that that that would be an interference in the presidential election but also that the people consuming that information frankly were inclined to listen to anyway 'cause they're consuming stories about hillary clinton being corrupt or unhealthy what have you those are two years where i i was out of step with him but i don't claim that i know that i was right you know somebody's books only listened to me everything would be fine it's just where i was at the time now there's so much in this book comes in nearly four hundred and fifty pages it's a huge huge work and of course you go into what you did in cuba the iran nuclear deal syria which is a big thing and then the whole benghazi investigation people must read this book up solutely fascinating and sadly we don't have to go into all of that but just picking up on russia i know that.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Monocle 24: Meet the Writers
"Hello welcome to meet the writers i'm georgina godwin my guest today is a new york native and a creative writer plucked from obscurity at the age of twenty nine he rose up the political ranks before finally becoming a speechwriter and foreign policy adviser for president obama's two thousand eight presidential campaign he remained at the president's side for his entire tenure his book the world as it is inside the bomb whitehouse gives us a unique insight into the everyday affairs at the oval office and his personal friendship with the us then roads welcome to meet the writers thank you is it she to say even as you guide it the narrative of the united states foreign policy and president obama's response to global events you always have been and continued to be first and foremost writer yes absolutely that was my background i wanted to tell stories i thought i wanted to write fiction that alchejaya for me on september eleventh i was a graduate student as we're gonna political campaign and i saw the attacks on fold i saw the second plane hit the world trade center the first tower fall and i knew that what i wanted to do next was going to be related to this event and the response of this event but i thought it was gonna be writer and i got into politics via speechwriting and i never lost that sense that you know what is most important in any job is your ability to communicate a story obama's to say our most important job everything that we do here is about telling a story and what he meant by that is not making things up he meant that our words end our actions have to add up to something because in politics really expressing story of who we are in this case as the united states of america you'll i only published piece of fiction the gopher smiles use mile is actually relevant to what you ended up doing you know it's eerie story to read for two reasons one it describes somebody who works for an amorphous corporation who rises through the ranks because they are able to capture what is actually being decided better than the people who are making the decisions which is kind of one way of how people characterized me how i would but your thing to me was i wrote that story before the september eleventh attacks in the whole meal you of the stories at this guys kind of anonymous american city actually had houston mind in the world is a distant place and it was kind of the pre nine eleven america and what he becomes fixated on the taliban and he watches the taliban exploding this huge statues of the buddhas if you will call and the last scene in the story is he's watching this television of them blowing up the statues describes this is someplace else far away and in a really haunting way this short story i rode there was basically about the cocoon america was in the distance to events like the taliban afghanistan obviously those attacks changed everything in america and they change everything for me suddenly the world was not far away it was very present in our lives and everything that happened to me after those attacks had its point of origin in them you re into politics of very much centered around your involvement with iraq tell us about that yes so i moved on washington i try to get a job for magazine and the editor of magazine said well if you wanna ride and you wanna learn about foreign policy should be speechwriter nobody really thinks of becoming a speechwriter so i got a job for guy named lee hamilton who end up being the coach of the nine eleven commission and then the coach or something called the rock steady group which was essentially a group of wise old hands who were meant to diagnose what had gone wrong in the iraq war and recommend where the united states should go and this is two thousand six and you know it's kind of the height of the war on wrong and we've interviewed all these people in got this picture of just decisions that have been made that were wrong that were divorced from facts we traveled to iraq and spent a searing week there where every meeting confirmed kind of your worst sense of where things were going you know iraqi politics devolved into sectarian militias different governments at different opinions about what was happening and i remember just as sense that the people who were suppo.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"Road we're going to take your place we're going to pick off your allies we're we're we're going they have a one belt one road initiative it extends all the way from china to africa through south east asia central asia and the middle east and he knew that it would be an opportunity for him you know yes there's risk with trump picking a trade war but trying to beat the united states and a trade war because they don't have politics right so they can assume a lot of pain but when they start squeezing pieces of the american electorate they know that american politicians are going back down so he's sitting in a much stronger position the only way to actually have a trade war china is to get all your allies on your side and trump is giving away the only leverage that he could really have by threatening a trade war against his own allies on europe japan korea canada canada canada so what you'll see in suddenly if you noticed christiane even coming so long but the chinese leaders suddenly the spokesperson for globalization has shown a dabo talking about free trade and sing with the wto and that is very deliberate china wants to make maximum use of these trump years too do much as possible to reorient the international order in the global economy to be anchored in their view of how things work you know i almost dare us you where you see light on the horizon but i will ask you a the end of this conversation about a really sweet sort of retrospective when president obama came over here went to buckingham palace macos met the queen they really bonded yeah he he really loved the queen and i described after the first dinner buckingham palace we sat next to her all night and he said they just chatted about first of all she'd met every person there was to meet for the last six years you know he's like this is the only person you can talk to who's literally known everybody but the other thing said it was real interesting is that she reminded him of his grandmother who raised who is kind of a tough pragmatic but plainspoken woman he really saw the person who loved as much as anybody in the world so it was that interesting juxtaposition of the woman who's met everybody but also so plainspoken commonsensical that your minds his grandmother and how do you think the meeting between president trump and the queen will go oh i'm going to tell you i think that the quintex measure people pretty quickly and she doesn't suffer fools so she'll be highly appropriate i'm sure but i don't think it'll be warm as relationship but they obama's bomb us and what's next for you off to eight years of being right at the center of power and decision making what happens next for ben rhodes got up on some sleep and written this book i've told my own story now i'd like to tell other people's stories i'm gonna try to do somewhere writing foreign policy right foreign policy but also i wanna i wanna get at the stories of people around the world how are they impacted by these policies my friends have podcast you know i might join them in public policy of america group so you know i want to try other projects and i want to try you know i worked for somebody in spoke for somebody else for decade now it's kind of liberating to be able to do my own thing for a little while we're going to say goodbye watching those amazing pictures of the president with your infant daughter on the that that's the oval office yeah yeah there you go and the other one when he's the costume yeah look at that it's beautiful all right ben rhodes thank you very much thank you with that tour around the world that is it from program and remember you can always listen to podcasts and see us online at i'm on for dot com and you can always follow me on facebook twitter thanks for watching and goodbye from london
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"Solve this with our military iraq and afghanistan we'd have we on there we had huge deployments those troops and couldn't fix those countries then what do i need in place for military intervention to potential succeed i need some domestic support international support and that week after that attack didn't materialize internationally the british parliament voted against joining us go miracle called him and said she couldn't support military action publicly unless investigation was done at home the republicans are saying it'd be unconscionable act without congressional authorization and that's unsatisfying as it is i also think it is true that obama's weighing not just whether there's a case for intervention but if i interviewed like this can work and it'll be for the history books end the studies will be done on that but it's not talk about the trade will yeah which everybody thought president trump was just using rhetoric was negotiating tactic but actual sums numbers now being flung around actual allies and competitors off ending retaliation and he says things like you know i didn't even know when i talked to a prime minister trudeau i just made it up i said we had a deficit i didn't know he says that you know all these things it's fascinating to read what you wrote about the meeting with president xi of china when you're with president obama and this is what he said about trump we prefer to have a good relationship with the united states but every action will have a reaction and if an immature leader throws the world into chaos then the world will know whom to blame i thought that was the one of the most interesting comments by leader in your whole book is totally haunting and this is a november two thousand sixteen election and obama was warning about i think trump is serious about this straight and g looks kind of sat back photos hands he'd take a measure this and what he was saying exactly what's happened which is trump goes down this.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"Next time we need them they're probably not going to be with us so that's how it's going to hurt us you just mentioned president putin the next big meeting is going to be between president trump and president putin in helsinki in a couple of weeks from now there's all sorts of expectations and sort of you know trying to think what this beating is going to be about who's going to give what to whom one of them suggests that president trump egged on by bb netanyahu and the saudis are going to try to ask putin to get iran out of syria in return for america allowing assad to stay in place have you heard that yes yeah and intentionally some recognition of crimea recognition of crime holton bolton dangle that recently deputy secretary of state said no way i would think no way but that's what the russians are gonna want right look i think that's right i think that the saudis murad israel is have had this idea of some were essentially they can realign with putin it ignores the reality that we butted up against and failed completely failed because you all in for putin during syria we tried and failed and being time yes people it was only we we only course we could find diplomacy to deal with assad had to involve the russians i think you can find mistakes along the way there including the beginning of the conflict that we can go back to this but i don't know that we regressive ly not at the beginning before things really went into an all out civil war there to forestall that by the time we were really engaging the russians on this really aggressive way leitner administration it was it was in some ways too late i detect to certain movement of your position you know you talk about we should have potentially gone in somehow and being more aggressive before this turned into a massive civil war you know your administration's being criticized amongst many in the foreign policy establishment many in the region for failing in this area and you've always defended you've done that so do you think you should have done something different at the beginning everybody focuses on the military question which we've debated chris john many times there was also the question of at the beginning we probably presume that assad is going to go we had mubarak gone ben ali solloway and we moved pretty quickly to call for him to go but by doing that without a clear strategy that we're gonna put means behind to remove him we kind of close the diplomatic window and away we are bility to make some deal with with the syrians and around in the gulf countries and everybody in the region about how to potentially forestall this civil war we kind of lost that window of opportunity probably because we were reading the events as leading to assad fallen right the russians in iranian zo were backing him in a way that none of those other we just had support i think people can go back and question every step along the way glowing red line but but i actually think people should look at to get the diplomacy wrong at the beginning sometimes the best thing you can do is stop the war before it happened maybe we couldn't but i think we should look back at twenty two eleven to twelve and least considered and you sort of said the red line onto your breath but of course that is what everybody this administration for its big failure the big thing is going to have to be honorable the big opening it gave to assad twee ron to to russia and of course the region taking its cue about your administration from that failure and even allies believe that as i say schist and as america first and go it alone as the trump administration is that they trace the pool back to that failure to enact your own red line are you prepared to admit that that was a massive strategic failure so i took people into the decision making after the redline attack i think new details about what obama was dealing with which is essentially he's already skeptical that you can you can.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"The grand dam of europe the european leader chancellor angela merkel utah collage about in the book about that last meeting and that you know president obama said anglers she's alone now and as they parted that was one tier in harare and you say you've never seen so emotional ever she was stoic and describe how she must be eating what president obama thinks of her now being beaten up on twitter by the president of the united states miracle is a great woman and a great historical figure and for someone like that who has weathered all of these crises and been children's shoulder with the united states and standing up to putin and helped rescue the global economy and the euro zone crisis taking in all these refugees showing what the true meaning i think of of western values are by by by welcoming people into germany to have now an american president literally attacking her an american basseterre who's actively trying to undermine her she deserves far better than this this is a woman who's been with us and i think the rest of the world is going to look at this and say can we trust america anymore if this is how they treat their friends the people who stood by their side came we trust them president trump himself as made the two percent of gdp for the nato budget a hallmark and we've got a nato summit coming up next week he's obviously go to put that on the table again of course it started under president obama the nato summit i think in two thousand fourteen they insisted on this two percent or your coat here in the uk in fact do you feel is there a fear that the united states might onto trump pull out of nato or bandon optical five i mean he did enforce it last summit last year but have things changed i think they have i mean look he reaffirmed it but he seemed to have to be dragged to the position of reaffirming it he seems more intent on beating up on eight oh allies i think we'll stay in but the question is if you're an eastern european country and your survival depends on that article five commitment and you're seeing the president i'd say it's kind of hedge about it and you've got putin bearing down i think you're going to be much more susceptible potentially to russian influence i think some of those countries will stand up to putin but some of them you've already seen are beginning to develop their own independent relationships with putin and with russia and so the danger i feel is not that nato collapses but that once article five commitment doesn't feel firm to people and frankly us is really the guarantor of it you know you're gonna see less investment from countries and we've got more out of those countries then trump likes act like they've done nothing for us the only time article five was invoked was on nine eleven they didn't want to be an afghanistan publix in want to be there and yet they fought in dive with us there the.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"President obama you quote in the book is calling president trump a cartoon character more concerned about his crowd size then serious policy so one of the policies which he railed against still rails against his obama cat and this is what president obama says that he told him about it i said to the incoming president just changed the name i'm claim that you made these wonderful changes yeah call it trumpcare he called me up to the oval office a couple of us after that new and trump and he was really kind of the news looked kind of confused shocked and i said well what happened in the meeting and he said well first of all he kept wanting to steer the conversation back to his crowd size i'm trying to brief him on healthcare and immigration policy and yeah he's saying you and i could get big crowds but hillary couldn't get the same crowds right and then trump act very open to his ideas and healthcare immigration and bomb what cinema just just make a few changes called trumpcare but in retrospect clearly trump had no intention of of being open to those policies i think his manner as a lot of foreign leaders have experienced i've heard from is that in the meeting he'd be quite solicit times and then he goes out and says something totally different and president trump really sort of looks like he's on a on on a binge disrupt the alliances to change or completely destroy these sort of socalled seventy eight global liberal world order president obama said that he had advised for instance president trudeau prime minister trudeau to speak up vocally and to defend shed values i wonder what you think when you see president trudeau having done that or the seven summit and then being literally abused by president trump by twitter storm being called dishonest and we can all allies meant to do do you think you know what i think they have to stand up for it they believe we've seen different approaches we saw president macron who i have huge admirations for try very very hard to build a relationship a personal relationship but all the things that he cared about the iran deal the paris climate agreement avoiding a trade war trump ignored it so i don't think you just going the route of flattery and reaching out at a certain point i think you know you're going to see allies say you know if we can count on the americans be with us which i would prefer an american they're going to have to stand up to trump and i think that's going to happen more and more of course this year because people seen he's made his choice and his choices to pick these fights with us and to walk away from that little order so tell me about.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"So out to process i mean i can't even ben rhodes uncharacteristic stumped and silence what did the president feel how did you process it yeah you know the president you called me that night of the election and his first response is kind of well that happened i mean even said that like we couldn't shellshocked as i'm walking home that night he sent me this email that said you know there are more stars in the sky grains of sand on the earth groping for the biggest possible perspective that we can not be too overwhelmed by this result then he went through the process of all the city of what could they couldn't campaign of done better you know how much are the russian meddling matter komi letter but then he got more philosophical about this and he made a couple of comments you know that that i opened my book with stuck in my mind one is he said perhaps i was ten or twenty years too early speaking really of the demographics of the country that that demographically guy like trump can't get elected ten or twenty years from now when you know it's going to be a minority country essentially and you can't have a whole coalition this kind of rooted in the sense of white grievance the other thing you said is what if we were wrong what if people wanna fall back into their tribe he obviously had some words with president trump joined that first couple of days off to the election you know i mean i guess how did he feel that the man who had questioned is very birthright the man who claimed that he was a muslim or whatever was actually his successor and that's one question then i just got to i you know he was he was very disappointed by i mean what what is most by like i worked so hard to take this office seriously and to carry myself with dignity and so it wasn't as the insults him it was at trump soup fundamentally unserious person you know that the stewardship of that office was being handed over to somebody who wasn't gonna take it as i think that's what bothered hiring is challenging.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"Region whether it was selling the ally hosing mubarak of each egypt down the down the line all whether it was pulling back from the red line that president obama himself established over syria all whether it was as they think cozying up twee ron at the expense of of the gulf allies do you take any responsibility for the tension in the region yeah well i wrestled with this a lot in writing my book i mean the i think that the spring the outs of the spring we broke with mubarak and president obama took a very dramatic step that angered the gulf countries very much we never really followed through we got caught in the middle which is not where you want to get in foreign policy on egypt in particular because he made the dramatic break from barak but then we kind of reverted to form in terms of supporting the military having that be our principal interlocutor in the country as their sidelining secular activists and making this kind of a binary muslim brotherhood or us choice which is what the gulf countries wanted the gulf countries ultimately puerto out of money into egypt to help put the military back in control i think we never really repaired that breach nor did we actually truly follow through on the democracy promotion in egypt that's the one that actually it's not the one that people think of it so when i look at and think about what could be done differently on a ran we just we had a different view it's not that we wanted to be friends with iran we thought of nuclear deal was the best way to stop them getting a nuclear weapon they basically wanted to have this this war across the region between saudi arabia and iran and all their proxies we thought that was not an us interest or frankly in their interests this just get back then to election night i'm gonna play a little bit of a netflix documentary that caught you on an action night kim side to try to process all this.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"Effective immediately i am cancelling the last administration's completely onesided deal with cuba ben rhodes welcome to the program thank you welcome crystal would almost be like a stand up comedy routine if it wasn't so serious what goes through your mind when you see those signature achievements of president obama all overturned well first of all it's disappointing it's sad to have worked so hard on things to see somebody attacking them really for no no unifying principle that would make those decisions for you other than obama did this so i'm going to undo it i do think i if i look at the three because peres was brought into force as the rest of the world is still in it and the united states can come back and the us by the way is implementing on a state and city example so cube opening he said he cancelled no we still have an embassy they're just not moving it forward they ran deal is a little bit more black and white we're out and frankly i don't think that deal with us so it's a bit mixed trump likes the theater i'm doing all these things but the world is a little more complicated than that so before we plunge into some of the more sort of atmospheric it's just quickly take the iran deal because that was a signature of president obama and in fact even in his campaign he said i will negotiate with countries like you're on and north korea right now you seeing president trump threaten his allies saying that they must sees all for instance oil imports from iran they must cease doing any business in dollars with iran europe the allies are in a position of having to sort of side with iran to try to figure out how to save the deal and their companies don't know which way is up and it just seems like an unprecedented fight between allies well in the irony of it is that for trump to do the things that he says he wants to do to impose those sanctions pressure on he needs allies more than ever we impose sanctions on ran they only worked because europe came along china came along he's making it impossible to accomplish what he wants which is to pressure iran more so he's got the worst both worlds he's he's potentially losing the constraints in the nuclear deal and he's losing the ability to bring the rest of the world along with him to pressure president trump keeps saying you see since i was tough with iran and i pulled out of this they've changed their behavior in syria changing their behavior that not looking so aggressively at the mediterranean and i think they really believe that they'll be regime change in iran that's what they want the administration how do you analyze those first of all those statements and what might happen inside your on well he's lying i mean as a matter of fact i don't see any change in running behavior if anything we've seen the supreme leader say that we should be started nuclear program regime change has been kind of the fantasy of parts of the american right and prime minister netanyahu for many years this is not a regime that is about to collapse and frankly i think if somehow there was regime collapsed the people who had emerged from that are the worst people the the the revolutionary guard there you know president obama didn't have very good personal relationship with prime minister netanyahu now prime minister netanyahu is thrilled to bits because he thinks he has his ally in the white house do you see this middle east policy being directed by by the israeli prime minister i think the two most important people in american middle east policy are mohammed bin salman and bb netanyahu i found prince of saudi arabia and the prime minister of israel i think they are driving this if you look at essentially the gloves are off completely in yemen the the spat with qatar bizarre episode with the prime minister of lebanon that is mohammed bin salman unconstrained with the full support of the united states and if you see the american embassy moving to jerusalem and then the killing of those palestinians in gaza that is now feeling unconstrained and so i do think that in the absence of a lot of any any real vision or strategic clarity out of washington that middle east policies been essentially outsource to riyadh andrews you you take any sense of responsibility for that famously the saudis believed that president obama was abandoning the.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on Amanpour
"Hello everyone and welcome to the program i'm christiane amanpour in london president donald trump has a huge european trip coming up next week with what's shaping up to be a contentious nato summit in brussels followed by visit to britain where he's likely to be met with massive protests and a one on one meeting with ladimir putin in helsinki that could create even more tension with america's western allies the relationship between the united states and europe has not been this fought since the george w bush years and the rift over the iraq war repairing that rift and restoring america's global reputation was a critical focus for the barack obama administration and my guest ben rhodes was at the heart of all of that as deputy national security adviser and as foreign policy speechwriter road served as obama sounding board and spokesman for eight very full years then his new book the world as it is inside the obama white house rose takes us into the innocent him for glimpse and how the obama presidency work it's impossible to read his book though without being struck by just how much of what barack obama did is being undone by his successor donald trump and so we begin by reliving some of the most memorable trump reversals today the world has officially crossed the threshold for the paris agreement to take effect as of today the united states will cease all implementation of the nonbinding paris accord today the united states together with our allies and partners has reached a historic understanding with run i am announcing today that the united states will withdraw from the iran nuclear deal today as the president of the united states of america i offer the cuban people saluto the pass.
"ben rhodes" Discussed on NBC Meet the Press
"For their families i wanna ask you one final question there's a new book out by a longtime eight of former president obama ben rhodes and he writes this in the book he said obama not usually an outwardly sentimental man attempted to pass a torch of sorts referring refers to a meeting that he had with you just in your voice is going to be needed more he said leaning forward and putting his elbows on his knees you're going to have to speak out when certain values are threatened you brought this up a little bit that you feel as if you're going to step up in certain ways what did you interpret what president obama was was trying to pass to you what i took from it was something that was deeply reassuring something i've seen all around the world where canadians are people recognize that canadians when we show up either as as troops on the ground in a peacekeeping mission or as aid workers or as as bureaucrats trying to rebuild an economy or help a multilateral institution canadians are there to health we are thought full we are engaged we are polite we are welcoming but we're also firm about our values we fought like lions on the beaches of world war two in the in the trenches of world war one we step up when we need to we're going to be polite but we're also not going to be pushed around and that need to be firm about projecting our values and defending not just our citizens but citizens around the world in positive ways is what i consider the responsibility we have as canadians and what i'll do as leader what values are you most concerned about we might be losing i think we're seeing a polarization in discourse where people aren't listening to each other where we're not actually listening to people with different perspectives or different positions we exporting this account is one of our experts we exporting polarization account i think this has been something that has been an all all courses around politics for a long time i think it gets exacerbated when there is economic anxiety and people go tribal almost.
Ben Rhodes discusses the days after the 2016 election
"Who wanted to be tribal and didn't want to embrace a future that is more inclusive and diverse and tolerant and globalist to use a word that has come under assault and that that's what he's really wrestling with is like how do we balance you know as progressives our view that the world continues to move in a certain direction with the kind of reactionary forces that want to push back against that and that the balance you know we had to take seriously the fact that you know this was a pretty dramatic correction with brexit and trump winning elections in with putin kind of asserting himself that you know should lead all of us to at least question well how do we if we're going to promote these values these progressive values how do we make sure that they don't we don't do so in a way that loses you know you're not gonna want everybody over but you know the loses contact with people who also don't want to feel like their traditional identities are under assault yep you got called up the oval office right after obama's meeting with trump right yeah so the readout in the book sounds lake in person face to face trump was a bit of a us friendly he was open to preserving the iran deal talking about obamacare you know it sounded like there was not a lot of the bravado and bless her that you see in public was that your sense talking to bummer yeah in other words none of it and he was kind of bemused he didn't really know what to make of it because trump was very had been very ingratiating and said nice things about how they both drew huge crowds and you know we can draw big crowds but hillary can't and you know bama stranded walk them through healthcare and immigration and they're on deal and trump's not particularly engaging on that but saying oh yeah i'll take a look at that and so he he was kind of struggling to know what to do with that you know in a way it'd be easier if trump came in and was like let's debate healthcare you know but that's not what happened and i think on the one hand sure that may
"ben rhodes" Discussed on KELO
"Key players i think that mccabe needs to be fired an investigated struck and page obviously fired and investigated bruce or fired and investigated james colmey investigated he's not going to get fired i think he's i think he's at risk of multiple fell his them never mind hillary for a moment and on top rod rosenstein and the in the middle of all this and special counsel muller the whole thing needs to be disbanded we'll because we to ask ourselves with rod rosenstein involved in re authorising those fi says survey kaelin's warns on we believe the timing shows he had two we believe the timing shows he had to you i mean we don't have positive proof of that yet but what we know of is those fis a surveillance words were reauthorize again and again and they were continuing to investigate the president trump and members of his team even after the election and you know what's even more concerning for me sean is the fact that during those months of this missing text messages remember the unmasking that is when we discovered and remember john solomon and i wrote these stories about the unmasking that's when it sped up that's when the unmasking went into high gear we have samantha powers' with three hundred unmasking although she is denying that she signed off on those unmasking is we have susan rice we have others with in uh the obama administration shen that had signed ben rhodes or we suspect that ben rhodes was involved in it and his name has come at a ring i'm greg jarrett in gregg allman will be so slow to get to you but a lot of information today five critical months we have or 18 minute gap here if you will of we're going to use a watergate analogy but it's much bigger than watergate because would weaponized the intelligence community to literally go after opposition parties candidates and then we got fiso warrants being issued based on another parties bought and paidfor lies there's a lot of corruption year um and a lot of crime says i see it uh not only obstruction of justice why members high ranking members of the fbi and the department of justice in clearing hillary clinton um but then launching a meritless uh investigation of donald trump for russian collusion trying to frame him for something he didn't do and then spying on it which.