20 Episode results for "Ben Mason"

Picking Up the Pieces (w/ Mijon Zulu, Nick Probst, and Ruby Roo)

Whispering Huntys

1:33:38 hr | 7 months ago

Picking Up the Pieces (w/ Mijon Zulu, Nick Probst, and Ruby Roo)

"Attention calling always bring hunt. Oh okay. Hi john self-proclaimed semi drag race expert. And i'm nick. I'm never watched it before and together. We are on. Welcome back to bring huntin Hello hello knowing kinsey. This but nick loves to continue barrow now but actually last week. I edited clapping. Underneath knicks purview. And it was actually a really really cute. So thank you. Nick for reminding us that soundboards can be augmented with your voice is called. It's called a duet. You're giving me big mouth fights right now. And i love that character. Lola yes absolutely. She's she's my favorite. She's so good. You haven't gotten a no no advertising on the spot but it's a great show show talk about too much what we are gonna talk about this week. I'm so excited. Ruby surly young house make a million sheiks read laughter. So if you don't know who will be ruined because you're crazy and you're going to think about new york city drag. You'll know that new york city only now makes drag queens in specific colors so we have yellow for lemon laguna. Rosa comes in rows away and then janice for some reason purple. I hurt that. John is actually purple in whatever that language was and we also have ruby. ru are red. She's a genius ratio here. No booby is a goddess. She's amazing she is nyc staple she. She's conquered brooklyn drag now manhattan night. I'm just getting. She lives in brooklyn but he also works in new york in new york and new york. I mean manhattan. She's city of her her. She she she. You can primarily. Catch her at pieces bar. Which is in new york city state bowl and she hold it down drag shows. She also bartends there and has basically been helping pieces. Keep itself together during these covidien times so that it doesn't break we're picking up the pieces because we don't need anymore. Gay clubs closing gay clubs. We don't even have gay clubs anymore. We left behind in in two thousand nine. When do boils drag race. I started the only have give bars left now and we barely have any of those as those so now today what. We're so excited to talk about with ruby is Is about the importance of keeping our chris bases open and what they're what they've been doing just to try and literally pay the rent during these times. We're so grateful for what she's doing. Emerson grateful to get a chance to bring a light some of this. It's literally the lord's work for queer people. Yeah yeah it is and we are just blessed to have this gift of her time and enjoy it and honestly without without this bar. I would have not gone to a stripper night because i stayed too long on a sunday under party again on. I didn't know what was going on but we went anyway. Happens to me all the time. This is an under-reporting was a wedding. Well this is why we love pieces and we love ruby and get into her. So what you're gonna take a quick break and we're can be back with ruby real. The camera zooms in on me. Get some high proof alcohol. We gasoline lives worth. Living is our mortality if there were not mortality we wouldn't be packing that i've participated in their share blood showing up out of the walked to me flat spontaneous conversation with people from around the world on strange thing christian available on your favorite podcast app and stranger thing christian dot com. Is it ruby. Ru i welcome. Hello i'm so glad to be here as well. I've been doing nothing at all. Thank god i have something to do. Honestly we've been doing nothing. I mean we're we're in twelve inches of snow and you know. I love a good inches. Anything over seven is a party stain. Side but yeah. So we're we're snowden today. I know that you you had a fitting today. Okay so i was supposed to have a fitting against the outfit is like this. Super super highways pants like come up almost to like the titty busy busy. It's like of course it and pant y- proportion it is a proportionate hasn't exactly so so then my costume designer simmons ben mason. He's incredible he mainly awards. Dress arguing with a jumpsuit. Who text me yesterday and was like. Hey girl have kobe and i was like i was like i was like this is upsetting because a of course thinking about your house also be tried to sell. We're talking about me and menu. Sorry for your issues. But like what am i going to get to try out. This compare pants so he's waiting for his test results and then we're gonna do a fitting save instead. I just like sat in my bad looking at the snow being like i thank god i make pop. It's four o'clock but it's snowing out. We woke up and it was the evening you know. Yeah it's about time for one. yeah. I know arguments here. I believe in lubrication at all times and you you. You do what you need to do. Yeah i'm ben mason shutout we love what you do. We want support and and yeah he. He's least like my main costume designer jeans. We just like we have like a group threat. We're like we just send back photos of weird things that we find. And he's like other he works. He works on twentieth street. And fifth avenue in the broadway costume ragu room. And it's it's an entire floor of a building. Elevator opens into this hugh. There's like ask beads on outfits outfit for frozen not deserve to be here but yes you do. What's going to cider trial. My beautiful gowns. Wait does even instagram. Yes he does. Everyone everyone listening. Yes out your phone. This is interactive okay so his instagram is be his last name. His i guess. His last name actually is a wacky B b z. A. w. a. c. k. i. One fix that. Because that's very own so now i got i got this stuff is gorge. He probably is fourth picture as me. Yeah oh my god. Oh that is gorgeous. It's so incredible. It's like so those sleeves those pattern. Those sleeps touched the floor. Doubt you can see all my stuff on that. I think he does a lot of british stuff because honestly this looks very bre if we know one thing about bread. It's that she's a fief. Don't my costumes diner. But then also undergra- so good for her and so he needs to put a lot more of his work on this post. I need ten with those leads. Detects in my digestion. I'll take over. I'll take over the social media and we'll get him some actual money. I mean i'm sure he's very busy. But i'm not right now kobe. Now how would you can you make during during the quarantine early we need. We need some up pieces because everyone's going digital. You only have to make half of it. You are rupaul. But speaking of which like you are in the new york city drag scene and you work in the In the bars well out of drag. What what is it been like during covid. What's what's been going on. Tell us give us the tea. So i predominantly at pieces hardware and play which is the trifecta course. Have to say that. Because to read. But i love that company. They're very great bay. Employees probably the most strategies of any company in europe and also are like very diverse And are learning about diversity more as we go together So i i have one bartender of the year at the words to times worse. I'm the current reigning bartender of the year. I of course got that a word. Because i i bartended pieces so when we reopened the second week of july i was one of the first people ass back. And we didn't really have any comprehension of like how this is gonna work. You know we're used to you. Know being act capacity bartenders behind the bar all night. You know it's at four o'clock we're taking sixty people out of there you know oh absolutely draco now when we reopened it was such a weird thing because like also we don't really have a we didn't have a way to take orders and put orders in in a way like a restaurant would work. Yeah yeah so mean another bartender. Anthony who shot ending. I say he's my work husband. Because we really like all of your instagram. Yeah might snack. We really figure out system together about how to take orders because we were doing out. We're doing at the time only outside so it was like how to especially because that bar you can't get around the marshalls like one person has to be bartending in one percent. Ask cossery so that we figure out a system at it worked very well and then that we ran with it and when pieces reopened people were so excited because i mean pieces really is a staple you know like it's on a legendary street and it is different from the other bars on that straight because it really is the closest thing we have to a club. Yeah i mean if we're looking at like two thousand and ten when we had like excel splash. Those jobs and none of that exists anymore so no thanks city. Yeah exactly exactly but pieces really is that is that venue and it was very important that we figure this out and also that like people still had a great time. Even though it was it's an it was a new thing. And i knew a new concept so we moved forward and we were having a lot of problems with the people who live across the street and the people who live the street specifically what we think was like. The super of that building was calling on us all the time because the rules the rules are first of all. The rules are completely arbitrary and the dot. The department of transportation is in charge of most of it is buffoonery. It makes no sense and then the weekends it's the sla which is like the liquor administration but to to organizations running running the rules and depending on who comes in. The rules are different so just basically like a complete. It's complete chaos. It's like every time someone came in to inspect your like. I don't know who you are where you're from but if you're from this the rules are this if you're from this side in the rules are this keys so it was like an uphill battle and we were literally just fighting to keep the company afloat. Yeah company employs the most drag queens out of any bar. Yeah any company in new york city the most partners because we have a bunch you know i mean it was so like literally like putting tables outside and literally having the super across the street filming less to report us to three one. Oh my god. We're not even open long enough to make a noise violation eleven o'clock at night. Look we're not even open so so it was a struggle but The owners. Eric justin are incredible. And they really you know business decide. They really fight for their staff. They thought ously and added in the end. We won because we now have this huge beautiful structure outside pieces hardware and now we have outdoor dining. I mean and then we have indoor during to i mean the thing. That's crazy actually is that then. We got a letter that says. Oh if there's snow on the ground you can't have tables outside. We're like wait a minute. What we s. I have no idea. I'm also like thank god. It's not my company. Because i don. I don't have to think of the logistics. I can't imagine what they're going through on a day to day basis. I thought it was just like before this now after this do we have to like watch until the snow. Like is fully melted. Like what did you see that. I don't know mike when they when the the When the letter came of course it was an address to me. But i was just like. Is that saying gay person. You're like let me let me just find out what you how it works. And also i feel like a lot of places are figuring out what works and what is allowed to work literally on a day to day hour by hour basis because no one has any idea cuomo wakes up if he wakes up on the wrong side of the bed then gets what indoor dining shutdown wake up tomorrow. He's like never mind. I change your mind. Causes over like to do what is he doing. God yeah and you know something. That's really been going through my mind. And i don't know if this is his touched you yet but i mean it's really scary to think about the number of gay spaces that are are not even able to do what you've been able to do. I mean i walked by nowhere var heat's been shut since like since day one so speaking of bars. So so i live in brooklyn. I i am blessed to have transcended the brooklyn thing. And i work mostly in manhattan. But i i i i i i watched you drag in like when i used to live in williamsburg so you add. Tnt yes of tnt. Dorji is literally asleep. Roommate's room right regular we started. I woke up. I woke her up. And i was like. Hey you cannot say hi later. Maybe she'll make a vocal appearance. But so far. I think sober is also the same owners. Macrey park and metropolitan and And what's mccullough r.i.p. Sugarland oh god. Nt at the at the time. Yeah so so. Macrey and metro have not been open since march because they have outdoor space on. Now i know. I mean and also like i'd i actually at the time when it should. I had just ended my show there. So i actually don't work for that company anymore. But a significant portion of my friends work there go there frequently. I go there like my shows in the city and Macara's macrey like a very drag bar now like it's like yeah. I think one of the best in brooklyn i would say you're welcome your. It's very strange seeing like my girlfriend's and who bartend for that company and just sitting around being like they can't really open because also like for outdoor dining. It's like you know the rules are like you can't be near a bus stop. You can't be near a fire hydrant. You can at macrey. It's that's what's there. I drink the bus stop and a train stations match that you just can't really open and then the idea of having the backyard open for outdoor dining or whatever it's called a yeah with work in in their mind safely and i'm mike okay i i hear that You know also it's like you know because it's such a learning curve and we're and we're constantly learning about it and the rules keep changing like i don't fault them for not being open then. I i'd did a show at the duplex for one eight years and they even when twenty-five percent indoor dining started again they emailed us and they were like. We're not doing that because twenty. Five percent of the duplex is like nine people. Yeah thanks tiny not even supposed to work nowhere near able to make the money you're supposed to be making your afford the rent of these buildings or anything. Exactly you're gonna be paying more staff to staff it and just to have the rights on dallas staff. Yeah yeah exactly. It's i've restaurant. Owner friends here in jersey. Where i live and yeah i am so glad. I'm not one of those people. Because i cannot imagine how lonely it must feel to after navigate your way all his every other day at something different. I mean it sucks. It's yeah yeah also also too. It's like the the prospect of like opening and then being like we're just gonna break even maybe if not. I always wanted to own the ball right now. I am very lovech that it makes you start. Yeah because i mean honestly so i. I've been working in this industry for the past couple of years as my side gig working in a restaurant right now is really hard because that means like you're the only server for god knows what sort of situation they're setting up. I would rather if i was working at a bar i would. I could see that working a little bit easier. Because you don't have to serve people as much you know you just a drink and then like a little bit of you'd never know but like a food option now because because now pieces restaurant you have to food option coming there to eat one to deal with people's complaints about the food and like pizza bitch. What do you want now. this is. I need drop. The food at pieces michelin star rated cuisine. Laughing it's like didn't they laugh and they're like we get. This is all bullshit. Drink your vodka soda. You know like. I say page here as a person who has worked in the service industry also like as a performer. Like just I know that like we're all trying to make it work. So when i go out it's not about like oh my god that you didn't put my like bubba bubba bubba. It's like thank you for serving me during this troubling time. I'm here because i like this Establishment and. I'm gonna spend some money because you know. Even though i have scarce resources. I would like to just at least enjoy a night out and i will tip you accordingly and i feel like. That's the only way to operate during this time. Yeah and it's just come to pieces because you're a great customer. I don't know if it's because pieces. Such such like an incredible establishment that has has a loyal clientele. And even though the you know on the weekends we really cater to tourists. And whatever you know like umbrella. And i were doing our show. A- dow cany duly came rate celebrities. Dal and what's her name. Just lawrence jennifer lawrence. Gag is okay. We'll get. I wasn't there for that. I was on vacation. No vacation with my husband. And i was like god. I'm so happy that i'm married and happy. And for his right side. But it's fun. We got married so young. But i will say that that when when we opened the people that were coming to pieces were incredibly kind understanding angst and still now they really are If you play it right and explain to them by you know this is how things were you. Have you have to wear masks when you stand right if you're inside But also like this is the wall and it's not really it's not really about us it's about me. I have to be here like if you say no to being hired back of and technically you're not supposed to claim unemployment. I didn't really have a choice. You have to pay rent and select people have been very to me. People have been very understanding and they in general have been tipping appropriately. I'm not expecting like. I'm gonna expecting because listen it's pieces. It's on christopher street in the west village. It's not a cheap place. So i'm gonna expecting you to leave me. I've million dollar tip. You know tip appropriately and also like i'm making a joke of this with you so we can talk about it together because you know if there's one thing we have to do in this stupor uncertain time it's we need to laugh together especially as oh god sect is not going to be old because we have a new president. That's coming in like let's laugh together because the were in my opinion the worst is over. Worst fbi over please go. it'll be over. The the community is coming to pieces is very generally very friendly. Of course like you know you're going to get the person it's like. Why is this drink. This much like obey. The drinks always been much. Just don't have that much money now and also it's also an mike and mike. Hey if you can't afford these drinks obviously annoyed by bottle of spending on and go home and drink it at home in the dark and then come to the bar maybe not wasted but like enough to sit there and like cookie. He doesn't drink. And but also if you order fifteen doubles your drink then your tab is going to be reflective of fifteen doubles cheap. You know of my god never order a double. That is just highway robbery. Quarter a double. Because i'm bartending. Word your liquor okay. Okay well then. I stand corrected but okay. So here's just one quick question. What would you say is your copay. Wisdom cove wisdom dan That is with a deeper than i thought. We're going gonna turn on on mike. Cova wisdom is. I think i think i really learned during this. Just who my closest friends were are especially in a time when this when this began during like real deep porno. Yes oh yes right at the start right. You know but i am blessed team area. I love my husband. He's in the other room Also live with We have a very crooked stories manager. She's one of my best friends as well. I saw it. It was nice having to other people in the house spot when it was keeping to your small small circle I really Bonded deeper with the the few like three friends. I was seeing during quarantine. I really that my. I guess my Code wisdom is learning. Who like the real bitches are. And in the same way people being like. Hey i wanted to come over with three friends much. No we can't do that girl like that. That should that's a kind of a legal on rate disappointing to learn. Yeah exactly exactly so. It's like two of my close. Friends are shiny penny and stephanie stone. And we saw each other together for the first time in like seven months like the other day because we had to go to lips to pick up but costumes but we have been in a group chat all day every day for eight months keno not seen each other in real because this is not a job. We're not. I'm not play having social media presence at all and sort of being no you have to set an example really i. Don't you know i. I didn't want be like having fucking raiders at my house. When if it's like the videos get out. That is so irresponsible and sent extends beyond just like our people our community. It extends because people look at us from the town that i grew up in from nowhere michigan. I'm like this. This is very serious and very important. So i think i think really like by wisdom is is figuring out who takes us seriously what that says about them as a person and then seeing who didn't give a shit i see girl and you know that if you don't do it the right way logan hardcore it's gonna come for you not the cova destroyer and i will say i will say in defense and this is not a critique on the staff that works on violent because i know very many of them doing that and they're all doing it. They were all very safely. And yeah exactly my point. Is the people going there. This community that actually. Yeah i mean obviously the people that work on fire island like this is their prime season. I'm all this happened right before they were trying to. They were trying to do the best they can. And i know from the. I've only been to up fire on like three times. That is a like religious experience for people. Because you've ever felt so accepted and so free as like you know obviously there's social politics and like you know class issues with by island but you can still go there for cheap and just really feel the fantasy of you feeling accepted so it's an important experience just when we abuse it that it becomes very problematic and i hope to do better because we have to do better as totally unlike some of some of the bartenders that pieces and i mean and partners that like like sable cities and tammy spanks who who on the island every every summer. This is how they make their living. They work their asses off the entire summer. So then they have a little bit more leeway for the winter here. Yeah done times when there's not a lot of stuff going on like for me going too far on this summer. Yikes people have to be there. I have to be at work. You know isa's it's the same thing. Yeah i can't. We're not gonna fall for going to work. We just wanna make sure that we're being a safe as we can. Okay so let's let's talk about some people because that's even with with every bit of seriousness. We need both. We need both the joy and then also some of the serious talk to get this time. So we're going to do is we're going to play a game and the game is called who or them. There are some people in this world who are famous and they are called. Them's like the ruby roots the british filters and rupaul's exactly who they are. We know what they do. We've been watching them for years. You know because we used to live in williamsburg la la la and and and then so. That's them okay. We know exactly who they are and then we also have people who are who what why why. Why did we know her name. And that's a who so we. Now have these wonderful queens Coming out of the woodworks For pasta and thirteen and we need to know who these people are. Because we're not sure who they are. I know i know a bunch of them. But i'm gonna feel bad also ladies if you're hearing this trashed and i'm not on drag race could you haven't met yet dragging inform the afternoon of course. Nothing's drag is the thing that people do. It is not the end all of anything okay. We're gonna do. Denali fucking love denali. So this is. This is the coolest thing about doing ski. Fridays of pieces and having done it with dusty right bottoms. When i started it was desi nine and then it became me in britta and then briefly it was me. Rosa and electrolyte fired roseanne. Not getting. she's but she should have been fired. So cool the cool thing is that we. We had a budget to hire queens from out of state on friday nights and especially a pieces. Friday is like is a huge deal. Obviously because i'm there but i'm nali was One of our guests and she is excellent. She is so fucking you in drag drag thomas. I'm always like you hunt piece of. Yeah and she's also just dwight and she's also very entertaining to watch and i am. I easily bored. Because maybe i have. Adhd but like i stand. And i when i found out she was on the show which was I was like yes someone who deserves it. I'm superstar. I love i. This makes me really happy. I we have at least two approvals of mr and so we're very excited. Okay did british same thing. Yes working with this bitch. I think britta i think she was our guest when we're doing the show together very is guaranteed elliott with two ts. Okay i do not. I do not but i have watched some of the like me. The queens and i find him very funny already. I'm i'm intrigued you. Ut's skinny west. Where my god. She really looking to west. It's the knows it's the together is love that outfit. I know right Like look at look at the shoes. Look at the shoes. Rosa is reading quote. Dominik jackson always check the shoes. If the shoes don't match the outfit like goodbye wash jay. okay. I do. Not but joey j. is the trade of the season not out of drag. I've already done this joey. James traded this season. But do you know hani's it. Okay okay so it was a who and like trust in. You can't because i'm following. I'm following now. Look at that. Excuse me you very white boys. Generally but like gaw flavor has its peaks and valleys. also i have a little insider t- because brazilian are pretty close by close. I mean we work together But i have heard just in general that this whole season is fire. Yes i mean. It seems seeing the was amazing they have. They've quality drag queens. Look joey right now. Like this look is what joe. Jay's drag is ella purple hair to hit that little follow. But here's here's what. I will say about jewish drag that. I see so far. The joey is sporting body type that actually can be quite challenging sometimes to put in drag with the the muscular abroad chats and whatnot. Joey is finding away to accentuate it. In a way that is beautiful that is flattering and much let cameron michaels just making you just like understand that like it doesn't matter what body you start with. Your drag is an expression of who you are. I think his drag is. It's it's it's it's different. It's not like it's not like you know pageant hair and it's not like right. What drag race that like. You know from season one to season. We're on thirteen now. There has been this sort of evolution. Where like you have to be in this like lace front like quaff situation six hundred dollars presenting this as you're like as your like initial look is like is a bold. Move your sheriff those borders for sure. Let's let's break some boundaries batches rate after put his instagram down. Because i know right. I just have to stop twice creepy if i keep liking that. That's what i would. I follow someone a lawyer. like background. Magilla gorilla pictures my say. I only some drag photos. Because i was like i'm liking too many behind. You mind you. We just talked about this really cute. Sexy singer called matthew matthew v. He's canadian and he followed me on instagram. And i will be watching for those lights is. Gm got mic. I have followed got mic on instagram for a long time a contender. Also contender weirdo. Like cool asta. Like i talk and talk but i'm not cool. I'm just like oh. Yeah like if i mean we've never met in real life but i'm thinking if we were i'd be like yeah. Yeah yeah. I didn't different kind of drag than i do. And like and like i don't wanna do your drag but like it is like profound thoroughly. I am so in. I am so in. What a what a cool representation of drag entity it's cool. it's called. yeah i really. I really like and also like just look at that picture lying. I couldn't think what does that kate is. Is it pardon shoulders. But i know we need brakes situation and she also how. How many yards of fabric. We're using that going by and you know what the weird thing is. I feel like i mean. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same designer to that. Did shake coup as like really big pink dress that she wore at the very end. 'cause it's almost the same fabric and it's like the same size although although i'm pretty sure this is actually the same designer. That did a lot of sasha velour dot from the headpiece it really looks like a. Yeah i think i for short confirmed that. It's the same designer that did sasha velours had beasted did blair saint clair's number at the final runway and then also jujubes he does like a lot of flack crustacean couture also to just say that there is something to me. There is as someone with sort of. Like i have a man's body you know i mean it's okay. That's that good body. Don't worry it's okay. Ain't no joey j. Honey i i have i. Have you know broad shoulders. And i just love when something extension weights. I think that's not necessarily feminine. You know so upset by gumming is like doing the thing that makes her shoulders. Look bigger at my. Don't off do very. Yeah it's very cool. Look we learned that in the eighties that if you have a nontraditional female figure make the shoulders bigger than the waist. Look smaller proportion ising. Yeah forced that that designer is named diego montoya. He was on project runway. Yeah we've talked. I've talked about. I don't know on product way. But we've talked about diego before i work. I mean get into mora hall. No i do. Not okay so who. I will say this. This is my favorite outfit from the. Yeah i know also also when she when she's sitting. I'm just i. I don't even have any idea how much each one of those giant ass feathers costs. Because i know. I know like in korea town like how much is a feather that that's one foot and then like ten dollars. How much could it be cost. Ten dollars that fed there is like three feet long burner side for this and honestly kill more more arm of them also in her. Meet the queen's like curd lace line it's unquote the hall family. The whole family to quote jada hall jada s and tall. The queen and her majesty is that are they. Yeah this is. This is family. This is family. The whole family makes sense to quote to quote her majesty jada as and tall. She said that she's like she's like. I'm a female illusionist and i have to say the family are looseness. They don't give you you know it's not cost you. It is full fantasy. Whatever they are. They're one hundred percent and that's why that's uncomfortable and also i would dare say that her face like the way that she structures. Her face is so similar. Data's per some just the way she does the nose and then the cheeks like it is. It is such. I can see the family resemblance. That's t can use trash hater. So kidding use as a good judy as mine. I was working when pieces was opened for indoor dining when we started bringing shows back candy show was on monday nights. I bartended that. She is a celebrity so she was only there for one of the three week but But also i have been very good friends with For a long time to do the right. Tnt we do a show together. I had one week and she had the other ways we can't amuse is did you. Guys know her at all. No no i. I discovered her when aga had her own coven that broke up and then became the dollhouse out and i was like who is this curvy queen. That's a part of that crew. I was made a joke that there were only a few. They were only three members of the house. Vodka and then there was the fourth member and the fourth moore was the house. Kennedy news is going to be exactly what you expect. It's going to be a true like new york cleaning. It's going to be loud. She's going to say exactly what she thinks. And i stand but she she's coolest Exactly who she is. If i'm out of drag or i'm in drag you're getting one person it says the i'm the same. Yeah i can say some meaner things. When i have a wig on but candy candy is just straight up candy. I mean sitting alone in the vip like people need to stop sleeping on candy. Okay that could stand a single word of that verse. Go off blue larry. Okay okay so i do. Not and i. I am who i am pissed that i do not know she is ray because the moment i saw her fucking face i was like. Oh god oh yes bitch. This bitch knows what's up stroke. Like yeah like look at her seeing her out of drag unlike you she can paint the. There's a facial reconstruction situation which like i am in for you know like yeah drag queens or surgeons really but without money bags our girl makeup expensive but lacks girl brooklyn. I sure do. I don't actually know her like super personally. This goes everywhere. She's from brooklyn she jersey. She's from no she plays. I've i mean like i went on her instagram. She's at allen. Cummings back coming club. Or whatever i know some softball where time off all the. That's the way you played softball. Local noah from this use. It athletic drag queens was like underhand underhand roseanne. I have literally never heard of the gallery. She's the pink jan. Thank you through. This on. Twitter at jam was like stop calling rosa the pink jan and someone said okay purple something or other and it was with this color thing because we had lemon we have laguna blue and then we have jannine each have their own color rent. So it's like you know. What are we going to. We have ruby by the way we have rubino ruby and ruby about me bitch. Zeh is probably one of my favorite besides mardi gold coming and british Probably my one of my. Oh sorry enthused. Because she's over there. A favorite people to work with. She is funny. She is offensive in a way. That is it that a drag queen should be offensive. I will say that. I'm not a fan of this outfit that we're looking at right now. No no no. No no i do not by the leggings situation great but also as a questionable taste honestly when you only have one color to work with. I'm gonna say outfit is not that i know that she's she's stepping house. Try to say that i do. I think that this may have been slightly different outfit. If she just worn the pants as right weird me out. Yeah and they they go into shoe and then us and it's slightly off like the to pinks for me. Don't really go together like they're slightly different shades in ways. That are kind of problematic because such. She's wearing a pink snakeskin which is so pretty so like i would have just preferred seeing her legs with some cute shoes and then bat wig which is a mullet. Would you know some more competition. Mullet could've been like maybe knee highs or something like that. Some kind of look with that. I think it may be could've blocked. Better yeah i think. I think the dress is so pretty that like i know. Sometimes it's you know when you're when you're padding your legs. You don't always want to have to do that full fantasy situation but it would have been a really. I mean it with that with that side slit ballot. Been really sexy for sure. Oh god has a gown yes you just have that just like all the way up there with all the leg. You don't take it all the way to where it actually is. just make it a gallon. Yup yeah that's it does i will. I will say grows say you saw in her. Meet the queen's. When when i heard the jam was on i was pissed. Yeah and when. I heard that rosa was on. I'm i'm a jealous person in but rose as is probably my sister. I m mike bitch you deserve to be on the show. I to what you do and you work for it and i think she would probably say the same thing about me too and also when i beat laguna in the next season. Fifty a frequenter of of the bars. I've been impressed to see rose as growth and you know it's it's it's sad to see another cute new york city girl go but we wish the best for everyone more room for us. Honeymoon got famous and give me my job bag out. Works out okay. Someone said on twitter that simone is unapologetically black. And i'm like bitch that's exactly what community needs. Look at this gorgeous gorgeous intimidated and turned on which is how i love to feel spinach. Among i love it. I can't wait to see what she what they put in the water in la. But that whole g g good crew is like servants. Some looks so. I'm really glad to see fluoride in the water. And so they throw up. Never get fat. Which is clearly what's going on also also like wearing a nail like that and like n like stunning twice. Yeah stunning to me. Shame on i do not neither do we. So who she. She is the queen of la. She's the drag mother of lowery really Is they're going to be some tension there. 'cause i never not about. I don't know. I mean. I think if you've been doing drag for thirty years i think you just keep on keeping on you. Yeah utica queen okay. So i don't i would tell you. This is probably one of my favorite outfits. The fact that she's wearing three hats in one. Is i love had. She is also watching her. Meet the queen's. These girls are going to hate this because she's weird. She says she's weird but she's smart energy though. Yeah that's like. I was like dorji brown but i'm excited and also is a perfect representation of who is yes. Yeah and if she if she made this or help design it. I am ready for everything. She serving the two different colors shoes. That still match the outfit. So doesn't even though that's a kitten heeled but you know we gotta be comfortable sometimes and then that pink trim that's so subtle at the bottom. It's just it's genius. It's genius because it adds it adds businesses is such a. It's a tour down. I mean not. it's not drag. it is drug it. it should be on a runway. I mean literally also have pink trimming on the sleeves and then on the hats so that everything is integrated so damn burnt-our are tina burners. i shows over shows over have to go. I love bullying tina burner at also. She gets so mad at me so she i call her. My opening are used to call my opening act. She did the happy hour. Show at hardware and i did the the night show with laguna and so she would come downstairs into the basement and i was like already halfway drunk getting and she be like. Hey girl relax. Fuck you tina main you bench by Tina is i will say tina is an incredible human being. Tina really is like she's the business. When i went to austin texas two years ago. I was working with sable cities in austin also to austin girls. They should pretty. You're amazing us. Why was there. Tina was just there on vacation. So we are like. I've also get get the fuck out but we had a really like great time hanging out together as boys man she is so passionate about drag in a way like wait here. I said you were gonna system. Here is just high thirty black lovely if you want anything more. It's gonna cost one hundred dollars in cash back to tina So i had a really great time in In austin just like hanging out like as a because the thing drag queens that work so much is that we don't really get to see each other a lot because we're all working at the same time you know all right now the shame. I think this outfit is terrible. I think the hair makes no sense for means for hair specifically for what is happening in the promo what what producer was like. Yeah where red and yellow hair right everyone else is doing like a beautiful like pink and turquoise situation it gives the impression that like that's important to her drag like it's always yellow and red hair. Well it loves a red wig. Oh okay well then then. I wasn't with censorship. Show is because she Stuck thick at note. Louis i for years and it hasn't got me on the trade so she goes podcast She said gena said. I will be the most dishes willing. You ever had serious another bb. I situation link hera your heart out but really. She said that and on the she was on that that other show with queens shade. Queens queens yeah And she's she's done and also you can meet the queen's she's literally like i'm gonna tell all of these new girls to sit the fuck down my how great for her. Because you can't self like that sometimes you gotta to let it happen organically well. Here's here's the one thing we know about drag race is that if you are a villain you go farther you around. I stopped myself. Because i was gonna say martin are there. Okay well look i. I've watched tina for years. I've been to her drag branches. I've been to her happy hour shows. I'm so sorry got she's great. She is she really is. She's good at drag iraq. She's dragged business. She's dragged business and which is so funds to be mean to her because she she's like annual suck. Yeah exactly you turn yet. But she was like miss hell's kitchen. She's like miss comedy queen current reigning. Or whatever i didn't even know pageant. So she's just she's she's put in the work and so we're going to see her work and maybe she'll be a villain but we'll still remember her as that shady ask queen meant like performed all over york and i will also say there's nothing wrong with this outfit it just doesn't fit with what is happening in the promo. Well yeah she. She took one tyler or body looks right and filming podcast or shut the fuck up. That was gonna blame her nose. And you know the funniest thing is the funniest thing but tina has had many different bodies throughout her drag career and she's always found a way to make it work so i applaud her cut. That is so funny. I love you but you remember anyway you anyway anyway. I know we have one of those bodies downstairs. Dorian corey bitch. I got my closet. Literally pairs burning. Thank you okay now. We now we know exactly who. These screens are antastic. So let's take a quick break and chat about a little bit of drag race. Say hi ruining his each other way. I can't hear if i'm not here. It's great to see you. I'm going to get a bite to eat. a trash. Comedy is the podcast where we trade. Sweet sweet fags. Like their dirty little pieces of gum sip. We're in new york based comedy team and we're joined each week with a funny delightful friend after each person chose their facts plea rate those facts from god. That's called the coldest ice you've ever seen to. Oh my god. That's so spicy of my mouth is gone to you. Please join us on mondays. So we're back and we're just going to touch on some oji drag race because you know sometimes you need to go back to the origins of thing tizzy see hurt going loss of the season where we discovered that bassolino could hide. Hide anything on top of the cameras on the land. How bad the lighting is right around the lace line you know. I think it was pre lace line. Put them on my grandma would they just gave it a shake and this as died back in. Yes this shaking go. Wigs are rampant nowadays these queens would-be clocked for basically any time that everything also for some reason i guess you know. In recent years people have fallen in love with eyebrows again. Thank you car de levin. A this was back in the day literally. People would shave off their eyebrows and all they wanted was that disgusting nineties pencil thin eyebrows. And it's the most disgusting being and it's so funny how when aesthetics change even though back in the day like to use chanel as an example like she's a beautiful queen gorgeous also rebecca also nina that thin eyebrow now is so aesthetically just uncomfortable to to look back up as you we love to say challa brow. Is that like i think. I think it's problematic for us to say you can say whatever you want with. Your mexican husband passed there. There was not access to drag makeup in the way the bears access to now so like so like the makeup that was like being used on season. One like there. There weren't like agostino makeup existed. Obviously but like there weren't stores that were like really catering to drag and now it's like now we have what specific products that are like really catering toward drag queens at the time. It's like that's what that's what they had. Also that's what drag makeup even look at rupaul. Like she looks nothing like she does. Now all has glowed up drag blowed up so we understand that what we're looking back underneath the vaseline is just what was available and what was. The deal was really good. I mean i have to say when i saw on jainal walked down the runway in monk in her own drag. I was just like on jain. It was so cute little many and it was fluffy and she had a shaved head and it as cute to me as seeing joey. Jay do it with all the fixings today. One hundred percent. I mean like on jonas specifically is actually my favorite from that episode because when she was doing like a the interview things just like i'm an hr is also. She got read so much in in that season for like nothing doing like archetypal drag on the back nine. Now we've look and we're like wait a minute. What she was doing actually was dragged. But it's not mainstream drag but now all drag is mainstream so yeah he was already pushing the boundary before anybody even on the show realized it. And and also like the drag. That rupaul did when we first started was not glam drag. It was like it was like rupaul. Went into this. Hyper 'em supermodel on. But that's not the only way to do drag. There's like there's jagger a one there's no one drag me. Yeah but it's like i live in brooklyn is see a bunch of weird shit and and that to me. I'm still i think we've got a taste of it but i feel like what brooklyn drag has brought has has managed to nurture and create a safe space for is that like cool alternate alternative drag in air quotes you know like i mean like sociable below or for instance Nightgowns is a show that she has been doing for years and years and years. I actually did nightgowns when it was at bizarre bar Sasha and she brought her dog for a number. I brought my cat for an been before she got on the show. Like guy and mike end nightgowns. Was this weird. Like whatever it's like i did is weird never. I did somebody to love at tinder day of the match with my cat. I involved like when she got on this show then she got so much recognition and she was like no one paid attention or care to was until i got on the show and that is a little problematic but also the visibility that she gave to alternative drag down and and to sort of the broken scene which she she even. She didn't feel like she figured. Yeah i i think it's so important and i initially when we talk to you about this interview we're talking about bushwick and how like that is like such a cool thing that happens and hopefully something that will come back when we can gather but i do think that unfortunately we do see a couple of times already on the first season of of drag race that like they they have trouble with something that isn't like gender normative in terms of like the way that the drag is they wanna see this female illusion and that that's problematic and really glad that hopefully sees conference that we'll see we'll see i mean i don't wanna talk shit but i'm very happy to see that. The show is evolving away. That is being more inclusive. Visibility is important. Talk shit if you want to Were drag queens like it's drivers that's what this is it's reality. Tv but at the same time visibility is super important. What matters is like the the production team and mike. How like a production team. And like how that rupaul. Literally like stocking now being pretend she just walked in but like but like the production team in like how how. They're pushing forward that that idea. I think that's what's most important in the. Yeah yeah. i'm less concerned with the why and the intricate details of whose opinion is what and more about just moving forward because as soon as you put it on tv. Everyone's going to be like. Oh my god. This is so groundbreaking. No this is what happens like irl and find them finally see on tv. Yeah yep so we're that plea So we had a oprah challenge and we have we have like two things that happened about problematic representation. One poor jay thinks she has to look like oprah and black face yemen to It would also funny. Is that even. Though they've been able to re- put out the series bay still haven't taken the shemale Graphic off radio but you heard they don't say it now right based show the graphic read it but we don't like disney putting a little warning ahead of like their problematic massey's well i do think that because there was so much so many problems that happened with the shemale situation i thought it was funny that they just cut the audio but they left the like. We're not gonna. We're not going to reedit the show right. It was called the loss loss season for a reason. State law were like. I didn't realize that they had not just to destiny's child songs but also the greatest love of all as the lip sing song. I don't know how this is still being released. They must pay so much money rate so so i was watching early. Say playing it on my phone and my husband was like he looked over now. Victory this fall those on my god. Thank god i watch that because that was the song also there was obviously not a budget. You see rupaul's suit up my dress barn woman honey. I'm just shut. I was. I was like wow you know. Talk about glow because paul is always talking about a client epstein pack now but like that old suit was it was it was. It was a right if it looked dress. Barn like smaller smaller budget on all fronts. Dead now hunting. Oh nine that he always looks at when he walks into the work. Absolutely excellent always. So what about this moment with barrack where she thinks that she has to black face and i just feel so bad for her the second they announced the challenge was like all right is going to be the first to do face. Yeah we're expecting it. And then i was like. Oh maybe i'm just being too harsh and then here comes the conversation of hey girl have brown tones and makeup a connect my ro some from you. I mean i mean. In her defense she did wipe it all off and over. Thank god this was. This was a lost in translation moment and it was like the concept was not my wasn't sunk in it's so cruel that no one from production explained it to her so that happening filming and ours. That's that's when they knew that they knew what this show was going to be about across putting on black babies just just the calendar for the next twelve sees. Something fucked up happening. Let's not tell them. No and then. And then i think the real misstep i thought was you know poor jaded innocently. Just being confused was when it was being explained to her. No one was being nice about the fact that definitely don't do black face like definitely i mean shady bitch to by thank girl. That's why i mean. First of all. I love the way the episode played out because if chanels attitude but yeah it. It wasn't like a teaching moment. Nobody was embracing it like a teaching moment. It was just an opportunity to be like this stupid. Let's make fun of her business. This won the competition really comes to 'cause you know all the queens were sitting there being like this girl thinks she's gonna do black face. Okay let me just watch an up. Everyone was just saying. Beat me is like here. I will say seems interactivity ended powder girl. Walks shady would be bb bb. Bb is kind is sweet but she likes to win an end. she doesn't play. she doesn't play. What did you think about the oprah like oprah olympics basically. I wish it could be redone now with the budget. They have now. Like i just feel like the whole the whole challenge with like different And also like the fact that like. They're like digging through their suitcases. Just digging through closed through in a suitcase. No now at the girls come with black a garment. A bag like this is the garment for this. This is the hair for this. It's like if bianca del rio is like choosing a wig. That's for show. She's not she's not fabricating. A wig barron the by. That's that's production. But the fact that they're like digging and then she knows like oh. Yeah and i'm gonna wear like business like fantasy red glitter now. Borough reasoning was like yes she wouldn't wear this Like on a talk show on but she could go out to the moon and a speech. I'm like no. It's not an oprah. Now should now thinking. That jacket was somehow emulated. Her embracing her oprah side was basically the same reasoning. That kennedy davenport did when she said that she was like a phoenix who was like hooking up with trade and then burned and crystallized. She's like i have in my closet cute and maybe i can make it work for this challenge me. She's she's visiting the expensive garment and brought him for this challenge. So these interviews. And i think that this is another moment where poor akasha is doing her thing but is just slightly unaware of how to not rub people the wrong around. Do you write. will. I mean she's not a team player as we've established in. Yeah and like and not not redeeming and immediately targeted until like a little skin on on the floor. She made it work. I do think that this episode was a beautiful example of how hard it is to be vulnerable with strangers and then also on tv. Because i think akasha came up came in with like a really big guard up so it became really hard to see like the sweeter more it was hard to get a sense of her story and they gave it to us this time because she was on her way out the door in the editing room but and she had a big wall up so she came off his route and the interview and then had a big wall up. So you know. All we heard about was how expensive everything was and how she's executing everything perfectly and how. What did you say she does. She said she was nice when she was done with the interview. She was like i was nice. Kyros classy i and it was like okay. Sure the doors they're right. She said she's like i connected with the guests. And it's one of those moments where it's like if you do all the talking you think it went really well. I mean well. Meanwhile tori spelling's. I you just see five questions. Well but this is. This is an example. How you tori spelling actually is a very smart and like personal person. She's able to like an even dean is like even when he eats like they're able to make every moment seemed like a casual fun thing when reality the in the background they're like what did you think of the final like lip sync moment where chanels head piece comes off and she rips everything off. She rips on the played her her medusa ripping off the breastplate like witness saw was ending as far as it seems we we got. It also might a bracelets. Especially then you're doing ripping apart that goes around your neck because you might not be able to especially because she was able to do it like nude allusion so that looked like her skin. So you don't want to rip that because that bat rip is hard to cover Okay now question did you. Did you clock that. That was a manufactured. Moment ahead peacefully. Yes yes aloe. Because they had heard that they had asked her to be more vulnerable right. You're not showing on ability and she's like of course i can show vulnerability and then they had heard lip sync to the greatest love of all. It's a very tender emotional song. And she's wearing this big had peace and then what she did was. She jumped her headpiece crumbled. And you know that. Chanel is aware of every single detail of what's going on her body like if she gained during this thing she probably knew and she did it. She orchestrated that moment of vulnerability. So chanel actually is. The best editors repulsed allies. Say she took that and was like oh i am. I'm a huge fan of racer. And they do. They actually called chanel to get it from the horse's mouth so chanel confirmed she. Did that. also also buries a great technique. I like if they're asking you do something you're like. Yeah let's rip out my my head and my breastplate was take care. What's it what's so funny. Is that like this. This started a trend of people on rupaul's drag race taking things when they get and be became a trend for a while until everyone was like. Just keep your wig on like that anymore. I like to leave it on. Please being asked. Yeah so anyway. But i do think that the game was played quite well by lady chanel. And that's why she stayed and that's why akasha left. Poor caution was crying at the end. Which if she just done that one episode earlier i have gone the distance as she could have done the limited and they would have pushed her far so knowing what we know. Now about drags journey. What what we think we've learned about. I don't know just the journey of drag since episode three riposte decorates what. We've learned a lot about what eyebrows look like. They should look. I rouse indefensible eyebrows. We have made immense. I think that there's something to be said for drag becoming more mainstream And when when just one came out like that's two thousand ten two thousand nine ya. This was not a thing that was really. It was sex so fringe so e show fringe. i mean. I remember watching season one drag race on tv by media and the next episode. Well and i think that from there now it's just fascinating evolution of something that is so like a marginalized community becoming so mainstream that like it let drag become an actual career. It was. It was awesome new job as a select few. Were doing it as a career Like me for for instance. If if drag race wasn't what it is i and also i started doing dragging 2012 like even me doing this as a career didn't exist. That would that would not be an option for me to do. I would not be able to do what i do for a living as a career had the show not is in and also watching the evolution of abyss queens season one even to like i mean look at the makeup skills changed from season one to season to even but like more seriously like season four but like it elevate elevated drag and now a lot of queens oh whoa rupa's ariston fucked up drag but it's actually i mean i can. I can see that side of it but the other side is that like this is my bread and butter. This is what i do for a living and if that show wasn't that show i would not be getting paid what i get paid to be at my bars. You know and and it reaches out even further. It's like i wouldn't be working as a bartender at pieces. Yeah because i got hired to do drag shows and then i got to be a bartender. It's like it's farther reaching than than than people give it credit. Yeah i think. I think it's i think it's created work opportunities for many many people and and it changed. It's changed the way that we gather as crew people. Because i i mean you talk about two thousand twelve. I remember moving to new york city in two thousand and ten and a lot of the bars were just places where like we went and we drank and partied and then there were like they were a lot of drag shows. But there there wasn't like i wouldn't say that every bar had a serious drags show schedule. And i think that that has really changed over the past ten years and i think i think too. It also gave a platform at bars for queen to an show. Yeah it's like it's a did pieces have cheese shows every every day of the week in two thousand and ten now. This is what i mean like. Literally they have a whole drag schedule and they have to have it filled and people come to watch these shows get. I mean even like when mary cherry started doing i can't remember. It was a black drag queen or queens of color night at macrey park on saturdays. I think was newest saturdays or sundays. I think it was. I think it was a sunday. Because i remember leaving my show and coming to see her. Yeah anyway the point is is just just like the way that like literally like people can go and have their own shows and it was just. It became a thing where like at a certain time or like. Oh my god. Did you ever go to that really late. Dipper good otter box was is. That is that the bar of the party. An after hours party was it in at the deep end. I can't remember where it was but it was it was like in williamsburg and it was like it would happen. It would happen after after two. Am or something. I don't know but it was very late. But i just remember going to otter box because i was like the dragon just so good like it's so late at night it's at such a random time but the drag is just so good at it was like this like fringe party but like i don't know i just think that drag becoming just by exploding and becoming mainstream and more people doing it. It's unleashed a lot. More creativity out there and i'm so grateful for it so yeah i agree and also like i think at the same time that it's like a lot of people are doing it. I think also what what is fostering is good competition. Yeah i mean. I mean i've always said i've always said from day. One drags on commissioner. I'm like bitch yes. It is dragged visit public. Because guess what like if you can ask for this amount of money from a bar. There's gonna be clean. Who's newer the you. Who wants to. Who will take your gig for less money. Who will undercut. You know you have to fight for how much you're worth And also prove it. Yeah but since drag is a competition and also rupaul's drag race is the epitome of that. But i think also at the same time it really is. Fostering like a whole genre of bike art and bike experimental especially in brooklyn. you know. it's mental weird. Shed and a mike down for it. Also i must have like down to critique it to hell also also fully willing to be like read me bitch read me. Tom brown's the wrong way. They their cousins. not sisters or twins alabama. Their cousins may be dating married. Yeah well honey. Only well ruby. Thank you so much. I know that you're snowed in and you're you have house guests and husbands and you know delivery We are. We're so grateful for your time and thank you patty me. This is really a blast. Y'all thaws i will. I'll be sure to swing by pizzas whether it's inside outside. you know. Find a way to make on the corner bottle of vodka would just hanging on of it. Thank thank you so much and actually actually world world world world world. Where where can people find you. I know you have. I looked up your instagram handles. And all the other handles and each one of them slightly different working people stop find. You really do all those things. 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Good luck than it. But i'm ruby. Rose an actress on on twitter which. I don't really use that often. I need to. I need to start using my twitter. But i just really used to report but issue dates it's ruby ruby brewed. Are you beware ab Are you d e because even ruby ruby ru was stolen by another dog. This is this is this is this is forty. I'm here. I'm here and then on facebook. You can find me at ruby ru and you can also type in horse. That's my alias. On on of you type in horse it shows us. Did you meet ruby roof. It's me sarah jessica parker and buzi farris who faulty and you're also on youtube. Yes my suggestion. Which i don't have any more made me youtube also. I have to take some things down from that actually but Yeah searched I think it's ruby ridge. Nyc on youtube. I believe also and also i have a website Ruby ru nyc dot com. Yeah i went on a gorgeous. The photos that the fashion the fame. It's it's everything. Well it's been. It's been such a pleasure. 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Wolverines from the Buckeye State

Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast

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Wolverines from the Buckeye State

"This podcast is part of podcast one sports net. He is currently the head football coach of the university of Michigan wolverines and a former player his dad and brother are also former players and coaches, but there's more to them than just football. It's time to talk about attacking life each day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. This is attack each day the Harbaugh's podcast with Jim Harbaugh. Hello, everybody. Welcome to another edition of attack. Each day. The Harbaugh's podcast coming up later on in the show. We're going to do are lucky sports. Parents feature this week with Todd Ramler dad of Nolan rambler future. Offense alignment for the maize and blue a reminder, please subscribe to us on apple podcast. You can listen to the podcast one, apple podcast one dot com. And please follow us and contact us on Twitter at AD podcast or using hashtag, Jack talk. So in addition to a lucky sports parents were also going to be helped us morning during an after are lucky sports parents feature we're going to be joined this week by Michigan offensive line coach at Warner. He's going to help fill in for Jack because Jack is actually down in Arizona at the spring meetings for the National Football League with son John Harbaugh project joins us. Now. Jim how you doin? Good. I kind of envy, you guys was that well out here. It's eighty five degrees and humidity must be about ten if it can no breeze whatsoever. Sunshine is beaten down on you got went to the baseball game yesterday got a sunburn all things are I just sit back there. And just think about where you guys aren't. I wish I were. There were no wonder you haven't returned any calls. Calls calls a cold your couple times. I think it's I went on the phone call. I can't take calls by the swimming pool. They don't allow. Jack. What's spring training games? You go to what yesterday went to the to the Indians and a white sock. Oh nice. We allowed to ballpark. It was a beautiful day. We had great seats. Crack of the bat on hitting the ball. And the problem is get older. And I don't know it's areas Zona with a sunlight or something. But the ball leaves the bad about three or four feet. I can't find it. I try to go by the crack of the bat. You know, if it's a real solid crack I figured in the outfield, and I look out there. And sometimes I get fooled. So that's the only only problem, but the hotdogs were good. The cold beer wasn't bad. Either. Foul. Ball opportunities. We Jim we were in a great location. We were right behind the plate. We were in about the sixteenth throwback. No netting over the top. So anything not one ball came anywhere close. I don't think there was a foul ball back behind the screen, but we were ready and and John brought him milk carton because he heard your podcast last week where the Dominican Republicans didn't have clubs and only use Mark milk cartons. And he he was going to try it. He had him carton. But we had no opportunities. Straight straight behind the play can get you sometime you you're usually better off. It takes perfect behind the diet over the twenty two rose twenty one rows behind the middle of the dugout. Here's what I really believe this. It's better now to get seats right behind, you know, off to the left to the dugout down in third base line or off to the right of the dugout. You know, don't worry about foul balls. Just worry about out in the outfield that doesn't count. It does not count. Doesn't count. It doesn't count. We're here in Phoenix for their. They're fooling with rules. And that is a role that was just passed. I'll let you didn't get it. But it's a running off the field with a ball. And they're looking no. Do you jump up and you wave your arms, and I talk about I got a. I got a kid. Jackie six years old guy. Take a ball back to it works every time. Jim I'm not going with the foul all anymore. I'm going with that technique. So disappointed. Thought I was talking to a purist. You know, it's been a Chirad these last fifty five years I was at a game Diamondbacks. Giants with Sarah. I had gotten a foul ball. I had got one legit. I minute it came back. And I was in a perfect kind of the end of the dugout just past maybe five rose up on the I'll work my way. Got into the aisle caught legit. And then. Stuck it up in the air raised it around at the whole the whole thing sat down and then a kid behind me maybe about ten or eleven year old kid, Mr. Khan. I have the ball. I turn around and go no get your own bowl. And he was one of those kids that you're talking about right now. There was in the good seats. You know, they just kind of off the elbow of the of the end of the dugout where the outfielders second basement come in. And would sometimes toss the ball. Just like you're talking about. He was in one of those seats, and they were all begging every time somebody would come off him and some of his friends, and I had been watching it. And it was I was disgusted and. They hadn't gotten a ball. And he was in right after I told him. No, he, you know, he asked again, and please, please, sir. Please. Mr. can I have the ball? I'm like, no. You can't have the ball. Stop. The fans kinda get on. No, no, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. Sarah got Omni Syra goes jammies. He's just a little kid giving the ball, sir. I caught this. Yeah. I don't eat cases. Give the ball away. As y'all give him the ball. So find them at long story short after a couple of days of the kid. Prod me and Sarah telling me to give the kid the ball. I pop him the ball back. And you know, what he does he turns? He turns around his brand or his brother and goes, it's the fourth one. I got this week. Sarah. Collusion's. Yeah. I looked at Sarah, Sarah. You're right. I go see what was I telling you rich kid with good seats. You know, he's he's doing your technique of begging for balls. Now. If I convinced you that that's not does not legit way to get a ball game. And the other thing they do is they're up a little bit higher. And then when the the like I'm talking about they'll run down Yale. They only I'll where the where the players are coming off the field. And then go to the technique that I described earlier, you know, they pick up a ton of balls that way. So I you know, I for little kids. I don't subscribe it for seventy nine year old guys. Different rules for different demographics. I've been over two hundred baseball games. Major league baseball games. Probably I have only been one time as a ball fell in my section. I've sat all over the park Alfeld infant. I mean, I gotta go game with you. I gotta hit up an afternoon Tigers game with you or something. Jeez. Well, I mean, the cheeses the ball coming right to you. In your seat is not good. I mean, you've got to position yourself on the isle you gotta be you gotta be willing to go over and I'll got to be able to go over a section. You gotta go up. You've got to look for the ricochet coming off. You know, you gotta no one left handed batters up. You got to be on the opposite side to get the ball. I mean, you got to be able to dig down into the hot dog rappers. And the mustard rappers go low, I mean, even if somebody's got a shot at it. And it's coming right to know glove. Don't go. I mean, he's wait for the ricochet gonna get to the good chance. It's going to be on the ground. If you get down over the hotdog rappers you get a chance to come up with that ball because everybody else is just going to be reaching if you can get level. Get down on the ground and get crawling. You're going to get a much better chance to get in the boat out the ball coming right to your seat. Very rare very writing section. Gotta jump in right now as Jim described this. I know there's podcast listeners out there saying this guy is exaggerating. There's no possible way that he'll get down on the floor on the concrete and crawl along the rappers get a ball, ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you I've been there. I've seen it. Come up with mustard rappers unto white teeth. Podcast for they come for hollowing Halloween trick or treating advice and how to catch a foul. I mean, I'm going to take the girls, and let's get it done. But he he'll be crawling down roll for the ball, and you won't get it. And he pops his head out saying about Floros back. How's he doing? Looking for baseball. What else would he be doing down there? Well, you're soda speaking of being down there. You're you're talking about going to baseball games, but wants to tell everybody what you're really doing Zona you're making rules, right? New NFL rules and policies. It's interesting. I'm in the lobby right now here where the NFL medias, and there is heavy discussion about about the new rules in the one that really talking about is this is I in the sky. You know? I don't know if it's a seven official Jim or eighth official with somebody's watching the game. Like like a fan. And he has the ability to throw a flag chauffeur that grows. Officials miss it that he sees it on on television. He can buzz down and say, no, I I have this. I have this penalty. And and I don't think it's a review. He's just another official. So the coaches, it seems to me just need just listening a lot of the coaches are you know, are for that. But there are some of the hierarchy and the committee the rules committee that that are kind of dragging their feet on. So it'll be interesting to see how that works out. It's from the af the new alliance minor league, they started it. And there was talk about what would happen in that league that you know, the NFL was a look at how to soon that. Maybe they maybe experiment with it before they would implement it like some preseason games. Like, Jack you're talking about implementing you know, test testing rules in spring training to do that in minor leagues. All the time. I wonder if maybe. If the NFL wanted to try it they wouldn't do it in like some exhibition games in the preseason before they actually implemented for a season because it seems like discussion right here any other one Jimmy came up as you're talking about the overtime and you'll be interested in this. We were out to dinner yesterday, and we were in in Vic Fangio, and we're talking about you know, how to do it. How to do it? How to do it in turn around? He goes I'm going to give you an idea that I have never heard discussed before. And he went to your rule about you know, the game ends and evolves on thirty five yard line of all aside yard Ranko. Yeah. You take a two minute or whatever. And you put the ball there, and you go, and I said, you know, Vick I'm gonna tell you. There's only one other guy that I heard ever come up with that. So, you know, he did he was he was his. But I told me only guys I heard come up with it. You guys are on the same mental tracker mental wavelength or something because whether he'll bring it up he said, he's a little reluctant to speak at age as only a couple of months, it'll be interesting zero that goes, yeah, I think I mentioned that too. When I was I came up with that longtime ago. Do you think you mentioned it to think I did? Biggest take out his his own right now. Yeah. At the end of the the end of the game would just you would just go into a fifth quarter who's ever wherever they add the ball wherever it's at the just continue to to play the game until somebody wins become sudden death, but it's just played out like a like a fifth quarter wanted. They're talking about is doing at the college roles. Interesting thing when you you just listen, there seems to be a they drag their feet a little bit on doing any colleges. Do you know for fear of you know, I I'm just saying I have no idea but for fear of following. It must rather collegiate game. Follow the pro game rather than the pro game. Follow the collegiate game talking about doing the twenty five yard line in overtime. I think it's terrible. It's terrible. They wanted five yard line close. Right. If they did that back and forth kind of thing like college you'd have to start at like, the fifty or something or your own forty or like twenty-five everyone's going to make the field goal or or maybe you just can't kick. Well, it's just it's it's it's a flawed way of doing. All you have to do is watch the LSU who we watch and Dan LSU and. Maybe it might have been eleven overtimes or eight overtimes or something guys are like you talk about health and safety. I mean, you're putting into a a eight overtime game seventy four seventy two. All kinds of sense. And but that he that he even on the radar. I haven't I haven't seen that or anyone even discuss it here. Haven't heard anybody discuss the overtime your way of doing it all him the overtime. You know, especially what are there were some of the other suggests next the chiefs. I'm not sure that one I heard two twenty five yard line. And the most of them say keep its way it is. But know, of course, Andy Reid to Kansas City. They this year in the in the playoff game. They they gave up the ball. They didn't win the toss. They went down toward a touchdown. They never got the ball. So he's the one that's really champion doing something. You know, where where it's more more fair how much fair can be than the continued. The game continue the game to them fall in an overtime like basketball this play the game and into you really even need overtime for regular season games. Do you need regular season games to have overtime? What do you think about hockey? They changed. How the do overtime. They do like four on four and then three on three and they've changed. So they changed the game. Right. And then it goes to a shootout. So it's not hockey version of it. But it's not the same like World Cup after they play their extra time. They go to penalty kicks in the World Cup, which makes no sense. But that's a skill competition. Trying to find the end of a game status continue to gain for ten minutes and regular season. If it's ties tie and the overtime. You just play it to get a winner. I mean, that's that's where you're gonna feel goal. I mean once you're playing the game guys on a ten yard line. He just wants to kick a field goal to win the game. It's over in a tie game. Because that's where he he was able to position the team in in that situation. I'm with you. I'm with you continue the game. And instead sudden death would be a lot of strategy citing strategy would would go into the kind of formula. You would with anyone asked me. And I don't know one's really asking me much. But if anyone asked me, that's that's the direction I'm going to go. And I don't know whether I should say it was Vic came up with the idea or you I I'll kind of work with that. And see which one I wonder us out there where you know. I mean you when did you hear it from Vic? Versus where did you hear it from me? Well, I think that takes care of that. Before we came here. We went to Albuquerque New Mexico where Zach gentry's from found out so much about his family. His grandfather fill one of the legendary coaches in all of New Mexico history. They say he's written a book and a book. It's just hilarious. Everybody's is coaching experience. But Randa Dominic Vermont as the football coach for the Duke city gladiators, it's a it's an arena football team. And I want you to know we had so much so much fun. We went to the game at ended up seventy two to twenty five but thirty five thousand fans there they played in a in a in an old it's called the kingly Coliseum. It has been built in about nineteen fifteen or nineteen twenty. You know, it has the pillars in their all around arena. They do rodeos in there. And it was a fun fun. Game of guys have been around thirty thirty five years old guys. Replaying for just minimum minimal money and got a chance to travel around with the team and John had a chance to speak to the team before the game. And it was just a just a fun fun experience. Dominic is a full blooded American Indian and champions for all native Americans and near causes in what they're what they're all about. And we had a chance to visit the airforce base here and have a leadership group John myself. And and we just had a fantastic time in Albuquerque now in Phoenix, Arizona. They're what's the name of that book? You're talking about. I I've got to get that for you. But but it and he's a man he's in his nineties now. Or did you meet him at all when you were out here? I know you've met the dad, I'm sure, but no, I didn't I didn't meet the grandfather when I'll get that for you. It was one of those. He's one of those kind of guys they would say, you know. Zack you ever met his grandfather. Then almost the big smile on their face and somebody that played for him and have a story. I mean, like like the old days, you know. Yeah. Story is stuff that he did this pull out of the outer outer sky, you know, without then he rhyme or reason, and they kind of put all those things together. It it made a tremendous story. And then having you know, Zach there and been around with him for three years and interacted with him to to hear that part of the story was was really really fun for me that part of the community athletic community, very tight tightly-knit. Coach Yvan Sanchez who's an assistant with Kim Barnes Areco here. Now with the Michigan women's basketball team. I believe it's her brother codes Zack in basketball in high school because she used to be the coach at university of New Mexico and came up actually came to the fencing him a few years ago when she was between coaching jobs, and she talked about everyone in New Mexico in the athletic community, kind of all seem to know each other. And I'm guessing they all know, the gentry family pretty well. Based on Jack what you're talking about. I'm going to be a little slow on this. But before the. Was a guy came up and he kept on his shoulder. And he said he'd played for the university of Michigan and he's one of their receivers yet a hamstring injury and couldn't play, but it was like in two thousand six two thousand seven two thousand and I think his name was stolen or something. Like that. I can't remember the name, maybe John Faulk last name stone them Zaire thing that was who it was barrels zone on to receive out of Texas. And what a nice guy, and he couldn't be more excited about to see somebody from Michigan. I mean, he had a smile on his face and talked about all the great things about the university of Michigan. And and it was just an and then the game was ready to start and we were down there. You know, next to the wall we wanted to get right to the wall guys are diving into the camera wells and over the walls. Eight is crazy when you're down here close to that. But but anyway, they're three guy three older gentlemen, walk in they had their Michigan M's on. And they had no, hats and all that. So I ran around the corner. Go. I looked at me and we enter -duced ourselves and we had another about five minutes ten minutes. Michigan. People are everywhere. Go blow. That's for sure. We're looking forward to seeing that the Michigan fans everywhere on Thursday night in Anaheim, California for John beeline squad 'cause you look out west they're going to take over that arena. It's going to be maize and blue throughout the city of Anaheim for for coach beeline squad. This this coming weekend. They're playing pretty well. You guys get a chance to watch this spring ball underway. Do you get a chance to watch the basketball the games? Sure. Did you watch watch good parts of both games? And. Texted coach be line. And he's he texted back and says got great players and great coaches and they're tight knit team. He can really really see the so we're in three years in a row, Sweet Sixteen awesome. The beginning to look like team. We saw last year. Jim we were watching them through the playoffs. They looked like they were playing with seven hundred narratives plane about four the way. They played defenses is great love it. Yeah. They're they're pretty tonight on that side of the ball. And also coach about a week of spring ball under your belt. How's the week? Then go fantastic. Ira really is going good. The things that stand out the most teams really in good shape physically in good shape, cardio wise. You know, they're they're practicing really hard, and well, and then practices are are going up as as we're end in there. He's like crescendo, and it's not like falling off in the end. And geyser winded. Also, just about every every body looks trained and in physical, even the even the big guys. You know, the the old line de Lyon, guys, I mean, flat stomachs and. And look and strong, and you know, maybe Ed can Ed at Warners gonna talk a little bit. But offensive line is has been really good. Michael Wayne, new is really standing out along with Caesar res and Ben Bredesen's, and that's a that's a real strength for our football team to tackle Jon Runyan's, having a very good spring, so far and then Andrew stupor and Jalen Mayfield or are battling it out at right? Tackle that that competition is is waging on but younger guys. Are owning furred is is doing a really good job. Dad? You'll be be excited to also hear that Hayes Hayes Ryan Hayes is is is on the scene a really really finishing and and play an outlet so excited about the offensive line. And then the defensive line is well Donovan jeeter. Would be the first name that I'd throw out. There is is somebody that's made a huge jump from last year to where he's at right now. Tremendous winner programs strength. He's he's he's really figuring it out and plant explosive. Sean newest got our defense a line running. They are they are running an athletic and a big emphasis on on running. And. Aiden hutchinson. Doing extremely well. Quit e pay doing extremely well. Carl camp is strong. No, we've talked about it before where he came in as an inside linebacker, then he was an outside linebacker, the news a defensive and now play an inside playing the the two technique to three technique and. Really has gotten gotten himself extremely strong. I thought yesterday Julius wells cough had a really good practice yesterday. Well, it's cough. Is you know, figuring it out and had no no high school football that some other sports. He's skied the and sicker wolves. He played basketball. He did a lot of things and he's he's he's coming along. Extremely well. It looks like Aiden Hutchinson. When they when they stand next to each other. From from stature standpoint, and he's filling out really nicely so excited about the but both those lines right now. And Ben Herbert and the staff done a tremendous job getting those guys strong and in shape. So so far going really good excited about the the running backs. I don't know if you saw the tape from from Sunday's practice yet dad, but I did oh you did. So so now the so the running backs are Sundays practice had been Mason. And Ben vents Sumer one worse. Forty other words, forty two. And now you're talking. Oh that I got me. Then I don't forty was. I I didn't know who forty one. I had somebody else. I didn't who that was was that Dan as van summer, and so and for an forty how about forty nine it's forty nine Lucas, Andrew ghetto. So. Another another really good movie move from safety to running back. You remember to Wilson and was was a safety when he first started. And then became a running back. I in my opinion, Andrew ghetto is better than to Wilson when he first move over from safety to to running back, but he's introduced got speed. He's got he got savvy in there. He really really seeing the holes and for somebody who's only been playing running back for for four practices here with us. He played running back in high school. But yeah, forty nine Lucas Andrew ghetto is is is emerging somebody who's going to be going to be a really good player to Wilson's doing a good job. Andrew ghetto can catch the ball out of the backfield as well. So he's doing a good job. And then so you got those types of running backs, and then you've got this Mason, and and advanced summer in that have been. Then had some real productive runs. Some scoring touchdowns some way, you know, get hitting the get hit in the whole at two yards and then bled. It out for another. Another two yard picking the soft shoulder. And and keeping his legs legs turn and moving so excited about the the running back position. There's a lot of good players that are in there. Doing a great job right now so excited about it. And I guess spring practice that was one of the things I always enjoyed you know, you don't want. You earn for game in two weeks or one week or two just really enjoy of progress. You know, guys that took those four or five six months after the season was over in worked in the weight room and get their minds straight to what they what they wanted to do. And how productive they they wanted to be puts us I can hear it in your voice, just a smile on your face. Kind of smelling right now development yet that kind of developed there's other positions too. I mean, no tight ends. I mean, you could go on for another other fill, you know, going through the players, but I thought their tight ends played extremely well through. Yes. Sean McEwen eighty four is he's really become elite at that position. Nick Eubanks is is really doing a good job. And he's got some more coaching points. But he's you know, he's really really becoming the the blocker and the past route runner that love to see at tight end. Love his attitude and the way he's working Schoon maker is is doing a good job Mustafa. Muhammad. Also, those two that were in the same class or doing a nice job and really coming along. Well, and and then Eighty-three Eric all gonna ask you whose number eighty three was number eighty three. Well, he's just he's a mid year freshman from Fairfield high school in Ohio and. Again, he's just a freshman. But I doubt he's this guy compete till he drops, you know, is doing a heck of a job and all it took too much about it right now. Get him a big head. But. And if you doing good really really excited about him. I gotta talk about Peter Bush too tight end. That's that's doing a heck of a job. And then before I move onto the next topic. Did you notice Jordan Glasgow at all on the when you're watching? Did you watch some of the defense? All I watch is a guy yet. I mean just hair is literally on fire only way you described away play. He's become the guy that we gotta we gotta take out. You know, you gotta you gotta say that's enough. You know, you've been in there enough. He he must go about one hundred fifty apps on defense because he's he's in with the ones. He's in with the twos. He shows up in the threes. He plays will backer. He plays. Viper. And then when they go to to viper package the speed package. He's in there. He's in their starting on that as well. And they takes every every special team rep that he can take. And we've literally physically now have to to tell him. No, you're out. You might have taken one hundred fifty plays. Sunday's practice. Just I'm just on defense. Abso I wholeheartedly agree. I think you may be undershooting. And even I mean almost every play society exciting time. You know, we always go back you go back to at Stanford. We had those guys that you talk about in a meeting, and you didn't want to go through a five minute district -cation of all his qualities right because he had that many. So you just describing Baz a foot all layer layer. It sounds like he is. He is quickly or has already attained that title. Yeah. And Ben Mason, another guy, you gotta put an area. We started with the plan of of doing a day on offense and a and a day on defense. But now, we're he's doing both in in the same practice Saint kind of Saint progression. We did with Marie sick. When we made him a two way player now bench play. He's doing some some valley. He's coughing has at the three he's and coffin causing havoc. Broken anyhow at the three techniques not yet. But it's coming. It's a matter of time and playing running back and he's playing playing tight end and causing havoc on the D line. So I wanna read one twenty guys that we got we got a bunch of great tweets this week. And when there's a couple that are some really good questions that we're going to bring back next week when Jack comes back Tomba got this one tweet, and it was a question for you guys in particular for you coach is it hard for you. Go into your kids games and sitting in the stands and not being able to be their coach and being on the sidelines. And it's got the emoji hashtag as Jim Harbaugh hashtag who's got a better than us. Nobody and it was from our ball. Great. Great question. I think of it this way. It's it's I had a lot of fun playing the most fun. I ever had was playing football coaching has been the next best thing. And then watching my kids play sports. I feel like I'm playing again, I feel like I get more excited for their games than they do. And. I feel like I'm playing again. So it's it feels like the best thing. Again. Are you better off into stands than on the sideline coaching for your kids? Well, yeah. Let me dental tell you I'm into stands. But. You're not coaching. Right. But when I when I coaching when he gets a chance when you get the chance, then then you coach them up. I mean, that's that's usually after the game. It's usually when we're at home, I get a get a chance to coach him. And and yeah. So having a little vegetables worlds there with your own kids. You get you get to feel like you're playing and you get the feel like you can coach him to having a great time with John and his forty way down get a Cup of coffee in some fruit. And Ray across the day was Bob Clinton, the general manager for the the lions, and he he has some children there at school of victory. What's Our Lady victory? His kids are at and Johnny story about how I don't know if you were talking to him or somebody else, but you said you love that school. What why did you say that you love that school? The name Our Lady of victory victory victory. He he got a big eat why forever practice? They got a big kick out of that. But they they're familiar with that Addie. They watched their play and. Had some very good things to say about her basketball. It's good. She leads the team. She always she leaves the team every game and loose balls attained, we're we're proud of that. But Our Lady of victory. It's a it's a great school. It's kind of it's over there in Plymouth, North Korea and two green oak Catholic school. You know, it's it's old in it's clean and great name. It. It's got a great name. They got they got good sports programs. I think you and I went to a game like a seven o'clock game in the morning or early morning game. You, and I you and I were the only ones there representing our family. It was. Yeah. It was like seven or eight eight o'clock on morning. They were like the the first or the second game. It was great. You know? All right. So we we asked all of you podcast listeners to tell us why you love the attack each day podcast. And we would give you an autographed top ten horrible way of life. Poster. You'll be the only one out there too has one outside the family, and we have a winner. David Brown at debate down twenty two. Here's his tweet at a podcast. I tell my five year old daughter to attack each day with enthusiasm on known to mankind. Every morning on the way to school and she responds with allowed, no body. I forgot one day last week before she got out of the car, and she told me to attack the day it warms the cockles of my heart, hashtag, Jack talk. So congratulations. David Brown will be contacting you and getting you that poster. Well, that's great, congratulations. Thanks, jack. We'll see you next week when you're back here in Ann Arbor. Okay. Thank you. A good day up. Next lucky sports parents with Todd Ramler data Nolan Ramler, and we'll get a hand in the interview with his new position coach Michigan office of line. Coach Ed Warner next year on a tacky today. 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Now time for our lucky sports parents feature IRA watch up here with. Michigan Jim Harbaugh directly recruiting Matt Dudek and Michigan offensive line coach Ed Warner, and we're joined for this week's edition of sports parents by toddler dead of Nolan rambler here on a tacky day, the Harbaugh's podcast. How's the family? Doing great. My wife's on spring break this week. So that we're to go see I think he's a stay at home with my daughter. My one daughter and I'm youngest is on spring break. And you know, they're killing high school or not yet. So she's staying home with her mother daughter Rican house. The big fella doing it. Don't get just. Lifting every day and working out every day. So getting ready. It was good to see the first practice. He looked great. He's been he's been pretty hard is working really hard. So I don't think he's missed today since since the season ended so podcast a few weeks ago. We gotta talk about coming from the basement. Knowle's come from the garage. Got that weight room in the garage. You got the grill that's kinda pull out of the garage there. You make you feed them a lot of meeting, but that that setup that weight room that you have in the garages is one of the best garage weight rooms, I have seen in a maybe my entire career. I've never seen better either. I mean that was amazing great facility cook some meat on the grill get hungry while he's training gives. It's a heck of a set of it as where did you? When did you put together the the weight room there? Got kicked out of all we actually had a family membership to a big wellness center here and. Sneaking all over there. He was in fifth grade. And you wanted to start learning how to faith? So he was going over there with me, and we kinda got away with it for about six months. And then the people the front desk new us than some new guy showed up, and he wouldn't let us in because it wasn't dependent hours and all too young yourself. And so we didn't write to them. It sends for all the time. He can take a kid there too late with after nine o'clock at night or something like that. Great. That's kind of a tough thing to do. So I was kind of Ed and we left the the left alone center and my wife agreed to let me put away bench in the garage. And that kind of got out of hand. There's a lot of toys in there. Now, you got chains and he's got heavy bags and sandbags. And oh my goodness dumbbells. It's all their third actually, so, but it's a long over the years and. And kind of go to the far Mansarn farm strength and under the bar stuff in the just he's really gotten into it and love it. And they'll be out there this evening. So did you say far strike? Yeah. Like solve a defect kind of. I love it. I love it. I know what that means. Tell the listeners what what is farm strict bailing hay and lifted. Thanks. What is what is it? Exactly. Yeah. You spend a lot of time throwing hundred fifty pounds sandbags around up in the air and. L bell. And see what he does a lot of kettlebells stuff. Heavy stuff just things the kinda kinda wrestling strength to learn that a lot you know, Russell when he was younger. So he kinda got into that kind of training where you just you just as hard as you can. And you don't feel right unless you're you're ready to throw up from just. But he's got that look about him. Don't you think maybe ever seen a high school senior somebody come outta high school? That's more developed a strong every muscle kind of strength. Yes. Functional strength. There's guys that are strong in the weight room, but he has this function strength like you. Call arm strength where he could do certain things that. Yeah, he's he's going to be exciting to work with what's he way in about three ten three fifteen somewhere in there. Look like three twenty five loop right now. It's a solid three twenty five to that is. No, yeah. He looked awesome. And also he's also got the weight room strike. I think we looked at it all or thirty or so didn't he? Yeah. I mean, there was there was only like what three offense alive we thought that were in four twenty five to four fifty a bench press area. He was one of Zach carpenter, right? Was. Another. I think there was a third but two out of the two out of the three strongest highschool offense alignment I in the country both coming to Michigan next year. Pretty exciting. Yeah. I don't know that we've I've ever recruited a guy stronger than him in all areas, lower body, upper body total strength, and you know, he and Zack coming together and they're both for twenty five. Plus ventures is pretty impressive for guys that are still in high school. You're listening to attack each day, the Harbaugh's podcast. Make sure to stick around after this podcast to get the latest headlines from the AP news minute. Are you down with the March madness fever, then check out the big podcast with shack on podcast one sports net. Listened to the big guy himself for the best basketball coverage of the NCAA tournament with a few laughs thrown in as well. Get the inside scoop and download new episodes of the big podcast was Shek every Monday on podcast one. Now back to attack each day, the Harbaugh's podcast, but you've talked about Nolan getting into the way starting around the sixth grade tickets through his his footfall growth, and when he first started playing physicians he's played over the years. I think. I think you start on fourth grade. There's funny. He's we wanna find him up for like play flag football and your third grade. And you know, that you know, he made them play center in you know, in flag football, you don't get to really do anything. So he just there a wall. And we try to find him up for her phone fourth grade, and he was too big play locally. And a guy. I was playing with down in canton. You know, told me they haven't been our league at open. So yeah, she drove down to our Bill. Spot a half hour away every night and join this league and actually had a little mini combine and he showed up, and he's not that Hyun or great. He was one hundred ninety seven pounds. He was like five eight or something like that. And so they'll be this monster and yet you got I combine and and the end up playing youth football out of Arbil late youth. Great little little youth football program and kind of went from there to the middle school and then archbishop Hoven someone's always been alignment, obviously, the big stripe on his helmet. Never touched. All. When did, you know, when did you know that he would you're working with some special there? I it his first even he was pretty strong and obviously big kid, but an understanding what he had to do. It started an in for pancakes and tackles and. I you know, I had a motivate them somehow. And I think the first game that he I think the challenge was tackles. And I and I asked you know, I told my getting five dollars for every tackle that he he made and I had to go to the ATM machines. I didn't have enough money in my pocket. Thirty or forty dollars. So he kinda got that Thomson. Pretty good. And then the next year. To me. And this is one that Roma started wellness center thing started. Yes. To join a youth training programs designed for ten and eleven year olds you know, for Gillian speed through that wellness program, and she signed him up for it. And he he loved working out. He loved measuring himself and see how much higher ISA jumping fast and faster could run and doing all that stuff. And it's funny. If you do on the internet or still some pictures of him like, look, they can do what you're doing a power thing would probably twenty pounds. But it's your in a register gonna power clean installing the internet. But that was his first time working out and getting into that. And and so he came back, and I think you have to nineteen and he living at different kid 'cause he was running and you're still wrestling. So he he'd like to train, and he just was a monster and fifth grade. It was scary, actually. For literally for some of the kids on other teams. And parents all mad that he was playing since he was kind of abusive, and then I know. It got worse. All the way through eighth grade. I think. Even though little bit in high school and played as a freshman, and he, you know, he probably first time you ever challenged and. I mean history tells you the okay. Yeah. I know what he was a freshman. Tim is coach would call me. And he said Ed at I got a freshman. You gotta look at it. And I'm thinking. Yeah. Okay. Right. We got a freshman. We gotta go look at a freshman, and he kept telling me he said, I'm just telling you this guy's legit. He's legit. And when I watched him he is legit. He was legit. And I've never seen anyone practice harder. I probably watched in practice three or four times over the years. I may in practice. I feel sorry for the kids that he's going against practices. You saw coach while we were there. He was like turning guys upside down put them on the ground. It's he's aggressive at breakfast now for state championships speaks these speaks volumes four in a row and our HOGAN what like all four. Fifteen five starts are fifty six starts at left tackle her game. It out there you at eight. Never miss. He's a great guy. A great teammate. The I love to watch. Get your perspective as a parent, but you're signing six offense lineman this in this two thousand nineteen class. And and it just their interaction. You talk about that a little bit. I mean with Nolan Zack in in. And Carson Barnhart a note translated don't see him as much or Jack Stewart as much Trevor on Trevor Keegan they don't know. But I've watched especially Zack in in in Carson amid it seems like every weekend Nolan's down Zach Zack's up up at your place or or they're over visiting are all off. Then they wear those. They wear those those plaid shirts where did that come? And they always. Like their flannel, plano, plaid shirts. What's it's pretty cool to watch. And then how they connected all the all become pretty good friends at the seams. At the plate here thing. I don't know. I think they just want to be like, then, you know. They want to. And if you're going to pick somebody that'd be like, he's probably probably the best our family, and all of us think very highly been, so they're they wanna emulate. That's a good thing. Oh, yeah. And but no, they don't know. They just hit it off. I think they've got common interests. They're all kind of goofy. But you don't take it serious. And all the parents, I think are probably probably hit it off just as well. So it just makes it easy. You know, you're someone along that are further away. You know, we got to spend time with the family, and they're they're great. I'm not personally, I never met Jack steward. I wasn't there. When he was there Nolan about ten to eight, and we spent a lot of time in the the under armor game. He spent a lotta time hanging around their families some time with us and he's just a great kid. So, you know, I don't know. But they just have a really unique chemistry, and I it's pretty fighting to see what they're gonna go through in the next four to five years. It's going gonna be fun pretty excited. Literally, probably come up your plays a lot for that stake. I don't know what you who. You're butcher is. Or what do you do? But let's take you had on the grill for us. That night was Ed. Remember that one off delicious? I'm ready to come back time. No. There's no recruiting rules anymore. Thirty guys in here. And they know the. We'll we definitely coming by thought after I coach does is visiting with amount of a call may what's going on house? Visit that was everything going. I mean, I can't tell you how much eat talk for five minutes about your stake. I mean is out greatest. Naked was. I'm not gonna lie. The stakes. Excellent at night, you know, so. Duma's me Dumas's meets out of Southfield, Ohio. Those guys are often down there. And they just do a great job. So they met hook me up for the event. There. This you must meet. Yup. But you know, those six guys I mean, they're all similar in that they love football. And they love the process of working to get better in football. I mean, you could tell all of them loved to train they love this study film. They love to watch football. They love playing football practicing their into all that whole process, and then birds of a feather flock together, that's a heck of a flock right there. We love having those guys together because it with no intelligence to. I I mean, you really noticed that. I mean, the work ethic. That's off the charge was the attitude of coming to Michigan and making Michigan. Great and making yourself great. I mean, that's that's Nolan rambler the may in it's it's contagious in. It's it's it's rubbed off on just about everybody in the class. No fan. I is it. Been fun to watch. And to be a part of that's for sure. Curious. No one's on field. Disposition to nastiness that is kind of the opposite. Some of the things we talked about off the field. But at the nastiness in in which he plays that was the word that I kept getting described to me when I was asking people about his tape. But what he looked like where do you come from inherent is at the coast up to 'em. Our the nastiness on the fuel comfirmed time. I don't say Pam don't say, Pam. You know, I I'm sure some of it's just natural. But you know, young I, you know, I I didn't I didn't try to coach him too much growing up. You know, I try to I I guess I'm not one of those. I don't wanna put somebody doesn't want to be pushed. So it's pretty self motivated. I think nobody talk about that kind of stuff a lot in initiating, your blocks and making sure, you know, I think looking you always you always after every game. Tell me when he could see in is if they quit. So that was always kind of challenge, and I would always after the game. I look out is about third quarter that that middle third quarterback could quit. And he goes, yeah. He he gave up and so he's just always sending mentality of physically dominating somebody on the fields where they absolutely Clinton. Don't want to be there anymore and has probably a collaboration of us to. I guess I'm looking at it. Coach Warner and coach offer that matters. You say that to quote, the jacquard by that was warm the cockles of your hearts right there to here. Those that what it was doing was more. When I was warming, the cockles of my heart to hear that. But you see it too. I mean, you see it all on the practices in in on the game tape all in practice. And then it all games. He just he's a finisher when you don't have to coach guy to finish it becomes contagious. It's going to be exciting because he's going to set the bar for everybody on how to practice and how to finish plays. And that's a beautiful thing for us. It's admits also to a tradition in northeast Ohio to him, and that is is football football football. So many great coaches, so many great players have have come from the area there, and we played with some we've seen a lot of them in. It's the when it's that's that's he's a product of that environment to wouldn't you say time. It's a it's a great great area football. Great tradition. You know down in. Nashwan and Ken in, you know, some of the Royal schools around here men so strongly that there's just it's agree football environment after vice football. I mean, if it if no one's ever not playing or playing on a Saturday or Thursday, you know, me, and my Buddy's still go watch high school football games. There's always just a game. That's you know, must see TV. And and I think, you know, for Nolan, you know, he got challenge a lot, and he got to play against a lot of kids that are gonna be he's probably gonna seeing college too. So he's always able to measure himself. You know, I I wouldn't quite here is that people could be here Sunday in. So it was it was it wasn't like he was playing where he always just had to them. So having that level of all round here. I think it helps his broke through through icefall. How about he never gave up a sack in highschool? I just speaks to his competitive nature that he was never gonna give in on a play or give up on a playing and let his guy sacked the quarterback recommend think about fifty eight starts at never gave up a sack. That's amazing. It's a pretty cool back during some of the competition that they played, you know, some of the big big schools. They played in some of the division one players. He's played against Abbas. That's a pretty big accomplishment. I think and you know, I had I always, you know, hey, if I talk about that. But I think they also rushed for over ten thousand yards while he was praying there. So a pretty good pretty good running game too. I mean, you think about eighteen playoff games in four years against. So that's the best teams in the state never gave up a sack in eighteen playoff games against the top teams in Ohio. But he somehow got out of it. And yeah, I think that's a pretty legitimate staff. We have able find one where he's gotten beat on film for a first act anywhere. So I can't recall any. Yeah. And then so you're going along it's already March, and you know, kinda countdown to the days in the months and weeks year before Nolan comes up the university of Michigan, which we we are thrilled about so excited. Can't wait to get them up here. How's it? How's it around the house? He just is starting to set in that the your boy is is gonna be leaving the nest. Yeah, we have agreed not to talk about it. Yeah. It's been sweet, obviously, you know, if. Incoming michigan. I couldn't find a better place, and and your son to better, you know, you guys and when the university, and if you gotta Henderson your eighteen year old somebody, it's it's you so, you know, remember static and we're happy for him. But you know, he's he's our best friend, and that's that's gonna be hard, admittedly, just in not being there every day and hanging out and joking and and just spending I guess fiddles bashing father time, but it's just gonna be hard. But we'll just and we'll probably be both my wife, and I had to get an apartment up there 'cause she won't be able to be away too long. But. Well, how many exact hours and minutes is the drive 'cause you know, you'll have it right down to the minute. Won't you? What is our in forty six minutes your second? I kinda thought you guys knew. Got it down to their lack of when the leaves? It'd be there. So I'll tell you. This is probably not a better parent or family to talk about Michigan in why Michigan in what the why why Nolan in the family pick Michigan 'cause there's never been a player that we've ever recruited who made his many visits. Oh, man to nobody knows better than than the rumours. I is. You can't even count. How many times that you visited or came up the games or game to the practices, and and just gotten to the point where everybody knows your face Renault's Nolan's face it. It's what was it? Why michigan? I did not say, but you know, you just family, and it feels like home, you know. No. I spend time talking you know, and mom, obviously, you spent a lot of time talking about what he's looking for and school. And you know, you always ask them to focus on the fact that he's plenty of all you can go to college. And you know, we see a lot of kids that are going to college to play football and the kind of miss the point and I think in throughout the whole recruitment. You know, we I think we were there cheesy fourteen or fifteen times over evil over four years and and rioting, and I think the focus has always been on, you know, football football. And we got kinda got that out of the way understand all in Michigan football where he spent a lot of time talking about what he's going to do for the next four years from an education from and getting through school and and being. Student. You know, you said at one time coach that you're really trying to put the student back in Africa. And I think we're talking about trips that you guys taking every year, and that's just kinda hit home. I don't see a lot of schools that have at the other way around and we see in students and the players. As if dad was asking the other day, what we will be why Michigan what stood out the most and my wife, and I we went on visits was particularly for practice. We spent a lot of time trying to be close to the players and listen to the players on the sidelines. The players recruiting for you more than anybody. And they're talking, and they don't they forget that people are around, and they will talk about coaches talking about players talk about king and Michigan players love in their their their mother. I've never heard of negative were out of a Michigan player when nobody was around. And we've heard that I'll schools so there's just something different. You know, it's. Again, it comes back down to feel like home in on his family, and it's just always felt like home to us in Olen most obviously Nolan, but I'm going to be a little biased. Well, we love reluctant to. Do you know, that's what? And that's what always really to me. Always makes it a family because we have football. But the other thing we have in common that that that a family a youngsters choosing Michigan in. We are choosing the youngster the be here. And then with the football component of that that makes that makes the ball team. Then it makes the makes the family so her Naveh better guy or better family to be the be joining us than than run family. And so for. Yeah. It's so cited go blue. Up next. Ed talk billion for Jack talk here on package day, the Harbaugh's podcast. This is Jack talk. I wanna listen I want to be better. I want to be the best. I can be welcome to our team that Jack talk as you get older. You get to be seventy eight years old. Here's what I find here grows in places that it hadn't been before. Welcome to hashtag, Jack talk is now when we usually get the Jack talk here and attack he stayed the Harbaugh's podcast. But as you heard earlier on the show, Jack as an Zona with John Harbaugh, the NFL spring meeting, so we're doing a little Ed talk. Instead with Ed Warner who is with us during the Todd Rumbelow lucky sports parents interview in coach Warner it's you must be just having a blast this last week or so getting the guys back out on the football field. Oh, it's been awesome. I mean, the group of guys I have the room. I have great guys. We have a lot of talented players back for starters back all of them all conference style players. They're off to a great start. And then we've got some good young players that are developing. Having a good start to spring so excited about those guys. Let's start on the inside. I want to ask you about the three guys in the middle. Because coach Harbaugh talked a lot about these guys with on when you with Caesar we's and with Ben Bredesen's now a lot more football under their belts. And he just has been raving about the progress. They've been making as a core as a trio in the middle of your offense, align, I totally agree. I mean, they're fun to coach they continue to improve. They were very good players last year. They've taken another step. I told him that after practice yesterday. I said I I'm just so proud of how hard you guys are working in the off season. The fact that each one of us gotten better, I mean, Mike is really taken a big step. He has a lot of talent he trained hard in the off season in the first phase of winter conditioning came in great shape and his last two, practices and pads have been phenomenal for him. And if he continues like that we're going to see it in the field. You know when we play. Then it makes always been strong IRA. He's always been a strong player. He could always move anybody in the that up against beast doing so many subtle things. Now at you know, we're all his awareness to pass off twist games or zone block, and and redirect. During the progression of the blocking scheme. Maybe talk about a little bit of that. Yeah. I think that's where his growth has come is. He's been studying the game. No, one is been more aggressive asking questions texting wanting to know more watching film about because those details or what's going to make emigrate pit player because he is talented. And so his ability to understand like this own schemes and some of the things that we see from our defense, and whereas I should be hand placement. Bumping off games and twists communicating get to the second level. I mean, he's just doing a lot of those high level details now, and we're seeing them in practice, and and it's because he wants to and he he's listening to those things and asking for those things like no one sends us more text messages about what should I do on this? He watches film on his ipad. He takes a picture somebody sends us, so we're really happy with Mike and how about Ryan Hayes right out of the gate of it just jumped a Ryan Hayes what he's made a big jump. What I have seen. And I let. Ways coming off the ball. Ryan. I mean, as you guys know, I mean, he came to says a tight end. And so physically he wasn't as big and strong and learning offense one technique took him a little time. But again, there's a guy who dedicated himself learned worked hard this off season. Now in practice these first couple practices. His strength is better as explosion the pad level. He's playing with he's much more aggressive any his details. Have been good. I mean, he's doing some things you wouldn't expect a freshman to do and in terms of just understanding schemes. And so. You know, it's exciting because that's what you wanna see though this year, these freshmen takeoff. And so think Ryan's got a bright future for us. I mean, we're obviously very familiar with the four guys that are turning their starters. And I think what a lot of people want to hear about right tackle, they want to learn they want to hear about the overhearing about Ryan Hayes, obviously is something that people want to hear about the younger guys that maybe we haven't seen as much so obviously stupor and and Mayfield on the right side talk about those guys a little bit and just how they're going after early on its bring ball. Well, it's been fun to watch those two guys because we laid it out former early we told them that both we're going to have a legitimate chance to be a starter there in four practices their reps have been dead. Even we've gone fifty fifty with them being in the first group and second group, and we rotate it, and we're just going to let them compete at that position. And eventually someone will move ahead of the other. I don't think it's clear yet who that is. I think it's still in the process. Both of them have great strengths and talents. Time will tell but the thing we know is at the end of the day. Those two guys will have really really good, right? Tackle on a really good backup, right tackle. And with the way Hayes is coming on a backup left tackle. So that's kind of exciting to know that we're developing some depth, but we're going to have a quality starter there. Right. Tackle for sure coaches. This is the deepest the line especially in spring ball. Those numbers wise is the deepest that you have been since you've been here. I'm trying to just do. Yeah. French. It is in my opinion. I met this offense a line. Starting group is has got a chance to be the best that we've had since we've been here and then. That with the emergence of some of the younger players like Hayes, and honing furred and and and spend analysis. There's not a big draw shock Chuck Phileas really Chuck's having a really really good really good spring. I mean, there's not a big not a big drop off. When you get to the second unit, and they're really coming on hard and strong and fast. And then I would say even when we go to the third unit there, there's some really good really good players. They're guys that have have walked on and really in been been taken coach and edge doing a great job. But you mean spate the start is core. Con coming on Robinson. Oh, Greg Robinson to me. He did some some really good things in Sunday and Pran, Dan yoga's shoes. Also was tight end in highschool. I mean, there is not a a huge drop even when you get into the threes. And and so, yeah, it's it's very deep right now. It's fun. That third group is fun because we're getting them more reps and practice being no huddle. And so we're getting extra work with those guys. And they've looked tremendous. I mean, I couldn't be prouder of that third group and how they've progressed to where we. Can run our offense and execute at a high level with those guys they're doing an ice job. But Chuck's really having a good start to spring ball. And Han affords improve Joel and Steve Spinella has always been steady smart tough. And so he's right there same way. I mean, he's that second group. There isn't a big drop off. You know, I've before you got here and even in your early time here there weren't nearly enough bodies on the Atlanta have a game like a spring game where you split it in half. You just weren't the bodies there. Now, you're going through the first line the second line. You're talking about the walk on that third land. They're giving you a really good production. And in the previous thing we've talked to Todd Reynolds that's six more guys coming in for your room. They're going to be here in the fall and got to be bit for those guys to that's a large room of a lot of large guys. And I'm pretty excited to see that many guys to create as coach always said the meritocracy the more guys competing the better off. You're going to be right. I mean, and I think those guys know the fact that this recruiting classes. Talented, and they'll come in and want to compete. So we've talked to all these guys to about that you better get way ahead of where you because these new guys are coming in and they're going to want your spot. So you better solidify yourself as a legitimate guy that's earned a role in this team. So it competition brings out the best in everybody. Coach you find love when those guys get your June does young bucks barking chomping at the ankles of the other guys the older guys trying to nibble their way up the depth chart and right as soon as they get here working hard. But at the same time learning from the older guys as well that the building of the battling each other for spas. But at the same time making better. Yeah. Jumps out to is. Ben Bredesen's really such a such a tremendous leader. And it's it's it's all the right way. I mean, it's all by example. But it's. He he cares for each of the geyser. It's it's important to them to pull other guys along and and coach them in a positive manner. And I think Caesar REEs is is kind of. I would look at him. Like, you got the you got bad at you got a great, captain a great Lieutenant and in Caesar, and he's he's come along. And in that mold wouldn't you say at all, I think so. Yeah, Caesar is the quarterback of the line. I mean, the the number of things we put on his plate to communicate and make calls and make judgments he's he does a tremendous job of that. I mean, we have some new coaches on offense. And they're amazed at how good he is at knowing how to do that. And that's something it's real important to him. But that really helps us up play together and be on the same page, but he he's doing a tremendous job. And he is a great Lieutenant of Benza. Captain of the Caesar's developing very very well in that role. And it'd be great though, you talk about the six offense alignment that. Are that are coming in? And that's it won't just be six. There'll be some others too. I don't know if we can talk about him yet met. But okay, I'm gonna read on Scott scholarship players that are coming in the two thousand nineteen class is good is we've we've done. Depth wise in recruiting guys and really good players. That are coming in guys that have turned out some subscriber ships to be here. And and they're going to benefit really the point is they're really going to benefit from having a band Bredesen's. And and Caesar reason, and Jon Runyan, and and and Mike, and Wayne you where they were those guys have taken their game as well. I know there's been a change in the office the coach Gaddis coming in and the the speed and space and the things that he was talking about in his press conference last week. But for your guys, I mean, they're still in the trenches. They're still blocking how they acclimated to the changes still have to black people. It's no different. We found that there's there's really no difference. Comes to a point where you still have to block them in. Yeah. I mean, it's just a different way of presenting offense. But I mean, we're running a lot of plays. Our guys know these plays. How we present them to them is a little different the formations the speed at which we do it like our guys are convinced. This is better because they don't have to go seven yards back huddle up at seven yards backup. So we're saving them. Fourteen. Yards apply. You save a lineman that over seventy five plays. They like that. So they get their communication through Caesar. And Ben communicate with them. You know, we have a system to get the plays into them. But. Yeah. It's it's all going good. And. We really haven't talked much about Jon Runyan. But I mean, he's about a study as you can come. I remember last year at this time practice for spring, and I was like concerned about would John get where we wanted him to get any add a great year force. And then just watching him. He is just he's the steady guy. I mean, he's the same every play. And he does some really good things. John John is going to be steadied there at left tackle force. I mean in a very high level of steady about the only guy he's John run and the only player from the two thousand fifteen class of the scholarship players. It's still on the team is that right is our only be it'll be our only fifth year scholarship player along with Michael Dana. Those will be the only fifty points being here, obviously for all five years. And he's the only he's the only player only scholarship play this been here for five years. For coach your second. You hear things seem a little easier smoother just as being in familiar place a year removed from when you got here. Oh, absolutely. I mean, it starts with very familiar with the players and very comfortable and understand those guys were able to take him to another level. Now, I think because we know what their strengths are. And we build up a level of trust and communication there. That's been great. I mean, the whole program the support staff the pieces we have in place. Everything runs smooth. Everybody knows where they're supposed to be knows what they're supposed to do. So for me, it's been really easy. It's it's a joy to go out to practice because I watch guys who know what they're doing. They know how to work hard. They compete at practice. They want to be good. And so now, it's just helping them key continue to grow. But I thought I'd at one sidebar that Jon Runyan will be coached by this year a little bit by the same guy who coached his father in the NFL. So we added a an analyst to coach his father coach Kostya Wonka St. oh, who's going to be working with this? And funny walks in the starting left tackle twenty years later, the son of a guy he coached the go. So we're we're excited about that. You know, coach has been here a couple of weeks with this. I wanna cop to. Because you you bring up just how many offense alignment that around the team. And that are good players all all offensive linemen are improving, and that's that speaks volumes for Ed Warner as a football coach. We are much improved as an offense this past year with EDA's our offensive line coach in all statistical categories, but the, but he also can he's also a great recruiter is brought in a class of six plus guys in in one class, and he's doing a heck of a job working on on a twenty twenty class. So we love having you here at it's great to be here. No one has a better than me. So last thing for you. This is the Jack talk segment, but we're doing a little Ed talk here. So do you have a, quote or advice, you can love impart embark on the on the listeners as we wrap up the podcast here. I just think that in life, you get what your own, and I think if there's something important to you. It's always worth fighting for. So if you wanna championship, it's will you gotta be willing to fight for it. If you want to do something, you you don't give it's not give it to you got earn it. And that's what we try to teach our guys if that's important to you. Go fight for to get it. 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The Curtain Call, Part 1: Will the Steelers yell Wolverine! in the 2021 NFL Draft?

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The Curtain Call, Part 1: Will the Steelers yell Wolverine! in the 2021 NFL Draft?

"Okay picture this you turn off your tv you wanna kick back relax and completely over analyze what you just watched. We made galaxy brains just for you. Hi dave schilling. I'm joan array. Are the hosts of galaxy brains polygons brand new podcast launching thursday april twenty second followed galaxy brand apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app to get new episodes in your ear but every week that's right unit galaxy brains where movies in overthinking collide. Pittsburgh steelers fans. It is time once again another edition of the curtain call. Podcast my name is michael beck. Deputy editor behind the steel curtain dot com. Join as by with always jeffrey benedict. Jeffrey how you doing tonight go perfect. And as always we are leading up to the draft. We bring you a special guest tonight. From as and brew that is michigan. Wolverines espy nation. Log trevor woods. Trevor how are you. I'm doing great beyond talk about steelers and michigan. I'm happy man football on april. Let's do it. Yeah you're gonna love it gotta love it. But kicking things off right at the top Trevor kind of the one of the big prospects that the steelers. Obviously you're kinda. I hang up on is tackle jalen mayfield. Now mayfield. didn't have the best pro day in the world you think that has kind of affected his stock is is he still even a first round pick. I definitely think he's still a first round. Pick pro days and the combine on a regular year sometimes they can be over evaluated and sometimes a a team will have their mindset. And don't even meet with the guy right. We know that happens too. So i think he's a kind of in the same range as he was. The question is is he going to be able to slip to the steelers. I think that's more the question right now the steelers what are you the twenty third pick twenty-fourth twenty four. Okay twenty four th pick We had a mock simulation last month. Granted this was before the pro day maze brew had him going number fourteenth overall to the minnesota vikings so i definitely think though he could slip to the steelers. He's right in that range in my opinion from fourteen to late round one and heck early round to you know how things go but i don't see him slipping further than that. He does seem to have a decent bit of various indifferent. Mock drafts where people think he's going to go. How much do you think the michigan season in. Twenty twenty is gonna hurt Jalen mayfield with that level of uncertainty and how little they played and how many players were in and out and also how poorly the tainted in this twenty twenty season. How much do you think. That's going to hurt this draft class and jalen specifically jalen mayfield specifically. I'm glad you added that. At the end i would say mayfield specifically him in pay Those two defensive including pay. I don't think this season michigan hands. Pointer hurt them as much. If you look at a lot of mayfield's film is still good film despite a lackluster performance from the team. As a whole. I like sometimes Some you know tell me see recruits to a reliever in baseball to where okay. This team is garbage. The baseball team but their leaders have one heck of a season. Sometimes they try to correlate that with certain prospects now on the other hand some other players michigan which will get into Cameron for example. A linebacker he was supposed to be the next. Evan bush which you guys know all about but he was not the next. Evan bush Hustle of at defense and some other things For guy like him in particular and some others Your point is very much true and correct that the michigan season was a detriment to their stock. Now what are the things. that's kind of been growing. i guess across some analysts when it comes to the nfl draft is potential. Jalen mayfield might not even play tackle at the next level and could slip inside to guard. Are you buying that at all is he. Is someone that needs to be on the edger. Could you see him playing in the in the interior on offense alive. I could see in plain either. I mean he's the guy six five he's three hundred twenty six pounds but he's a agile to to where he doesn't have to be some boat anchor on the outside I definitely think he has versatility position. Wise to where he can be moved around It just all boils down to whoever drafts him. How debut on and what they'd like to do with them So i definitely like the versatility an also. I think that's the reason why. I don't see slipping out of the first round with this with mayfield. Even though he didn't play much in two thousand twenty you tell us a bit about what he faced in two thousand nineteen. Because i have to tell you. I'm i'm a michigan guy. I was born in michigan and the two thousand nineteen season. The jalen field hat had a first year. Starter was absolutely incredible. Our you just tell us a little bit about that. 'cause i don't know if people realize these doors he's gonna turn twenty one after the draft and he has already faced guys who are who are starting in the nfl a lot. Yeah exactly and that's another thing about mayfield to wear He did a little bit a battle with chase young. Even ohio states chase young. He acclimated himself. Well with good big ten defense's if big ten's known for anything it's known for their hard nose football and sometimes that can be boring but if you like battles in the trenches they something for you. So yeah that's cool. You're michigan guy and Mayfield going into the twenty nine thousand. Nine season like most michigan players so much hype surrounding them so much praise and then sometimes it's unfair to them. Unwarranted expectations don't Meet reality but with mayfield man as she said looking him now he's still very young and he was very young then and even interviews high carrying himself off the field. You can tell you is a very smart player. Understands the xs knows of the game and then he has that physicality and as just a nineteen year old. How strong and he was and the game didn't look too hard for him and he caught up to big ten defense speed quickly. He was definitely a bright spot in two thousand nineteen and is a reason why michigan even went to not the best ball world but they were leading alabama at halftime in the citrus bowl. Obviously a really bad. You're in twenty twenty and all that for michigan but a michigan was okay in two thousand nineteen and mayfield's a big reason. Why when it comes to jail mayfield. I i got one more question for him and specifically when it comes to the other tackles this draft class. I'm not sure how much you know the other guys. But right now it really seems like there's a clear clear. Cut top three with those tackles the next ten. It seems like it could be any of those names going in any particular order. So trevor i want you to offend your guy. Why should jalen mayfield. Be the fourth tackle taken well. Part of the reason is what. Jeffrey just outlined. Its look he has experienced. He has a resume but still yeah only fifteen. So it's kind of paradoxical it's like he doesn't have a lot but all the fifteen games is still enough to say. Hey look this guy look at what. He did look what he accomplished and then what. What a team's getting is still young guy not somebody who's twenty three twenty four coming outta college. He's a very good player now and he can grow further in the nfl. But i think he can have success from day one in the nfl to now as far as what d Know debris differentiates him from others. It's so hard to play that game because we live. In retrospect anytime we're talking about the nfl draft. I mean look at the quarterbacks right now too. I mean some people think justin fields could slip to number ten number eleven And think rightfully so others think that's absolutely crazy to happen so Evaluations are so subjective across the board and only a true objectively comes a couple years down the road but Heck anywhere between like. I said pick fourteen in early round too. I think is good value for mayfield. So moving on from mayfield quickly. Pai tell us a little bit about him. he's i think he's he. He kind of flew under the radar for a while and then as he. He's all over the place. People that are super high on him. You hear people that are like now. yes pretty. Pay another really strong physical specimen the perception is he will be able to get after the quarterback and also helping the run game as well. The detriment of for pay would be the as. You were alluding to earlier. Jeffrey is how michigan's performed defensively the past couple of years in Don brown he's fire now the previous defense for nader. He didn't always necessarily utilized people correctly in the ways. He should have a point. Would be sean gerry. Who's now doing quite well starting to come into his own. The green bay packers. If you look at a sack numbers and stuff at michigan. It just wasn't that great when they asked him to do. Relate to these eye-popping numbers. I would say the same thing about pay in that regard. Actually time mcshea. Tom mcshea thinks he's going to be the first or second. Ed rush off the board definitely. He's as a quick guy vassal quickness for his size mcshea echoes. What i said i echo. What says the says. He said he didn't think pay was utilized properly. And just he's a high motor guy. He loves football. He's the type of guy who gets draft in the first ten or so picks with quip as well is he someone that is more of a hand in dirt street edge. Rusher for a forty base defenses. He's someone that can do it all and being outside linebacker in and cover guys if if that's needed from yeah that's a good question. There's nothing once again. It's how to utilize in the film available to dissect but at the moment i consider him highly raw as far as you know becoming some outside linebacker but at the same time at six foot three to sixty one you like for him to drop into some certain types zone coverage At least a hybrid. That's where the nfl's trendy and across the board defensively is you need hybrids so His forty yard dash very impressive at his pro day. There is absolutely no disputing that. A four point five four four yards dash so obviously very strong as well. Thirty six bench. Reps so i do think that he can transition from a hand in the dirt to a standup outside linebacker. But as far as the coverage. That's my concern is now. You're gonna ask the guy to do something he's never done before. However we've seen a lot of examples strut time to where guys who were used to one thing hand in dirt and college. They make that transition pretty smoothly at least by your to your three of their career but he's definitely raw in that area right now. How how is how would you rank pans run defender. Because if he comes to the let's say he falls all the way to twenty four and the steelers decide to go that direction which it's unlikely. Either of these things happen But how would he play as like a run defender. How did he show up in that setting the edge. You know in run defense a. That's a good question. i i say. Mixed results on his rushing prowess as a rushing awareness. Definitely sometimes you get caught flat-footed and stuff and as on counters at the On the flip side to where. Actually he's not being caught flat-footed he's over pursuing and he's not maintained his gap. So with that sad you're gonna find plenty of film where he sheds his man. He's in the proper place he contains. He sets the edge he gets offering makes solo tackle but Right now his strength is being a pass. Rusher is quitting. Pay the top prospect coming out of michigan this year. Yeah i would mayfield. Though isn't too far behind. And he's young so to me. Honestly i said. The retrospect two years from now a minute ago but Pay will be the first one off the board. Put it that way but Mayfield can end up having the better career move on people who will actually have a much better chance of being there when the steelers pick nico collins collins. Another athletic frequently wide receiver from michigan. There seems to be a good string of these big athletic wide receivers for michigan but so far none of them have really taken off in the. Nfl is this. Is this a you know a jim harbaugh wide receiver curse is this. You know the system that they use it michigan or is this just none of the other have been this good and equal collins could be the first to really break that streak of guys who haven't really hit it off in the nfl. Yeah granted six round. Pick down people's jones started doing decent for the browns last year. But you're totally right at harbaugh. Been there six seasons now off the top anybody's head whether they're michigan fan or otherwise they can't really name all you know. Look at this receiver doing so good in the nfl. So spot on their can collins break that trend. I would say he might be the best receiver. Harbaugh's had entering the nfl draft to this point and actually some of his attributes in some of the things too is game remind me of a more raw version of a chase claypool. Nico collins is six four years. Two hundred fifteen pounds ran a four point. Four three forty. I believe platefuls forty yard dashes four point. Four two So there around the same size and speed playful. I think coming out of college steph. Had a him. In as far as his development. I'm she didn't collins missing opting out of the twenty twenty season but he was able to impress people at the senior bowl during his time. There i think he has been a potential in a high ceiling in the nfl. He's already guy who is very good at catching the football. And that might sound silly but a lot of prospects get drafted who are fast but simply can't catch her can't catch well or are inclined to let the ball hit. They're chest before a trying to put hands on it. Collins is very strong strong hands. he's ready to grab that football and i think that's assets. He's definitely a deep threat. Averaged i believe over. Nineteen yards per catch in his michigan career. So you have that there. As far as his route tree that is raw and very much in development. But i think in the right situation we could see collins developed quite well. There's a lot to like about the guy. What kind of position do you see collins playing more of a slot or see someone that should be playing on the outside. He should be playing on the outside. Now branded i do think he's better than some six foot. Four guys at cutting into inside the field be a tightly. Contested slant route or gain some separation With mesh concepts but to me. He is a right now. More of a straight line runner Let's just get this guy down the field. Let's see if he can out some press coverage on a week or corner and gain some separation and then track the football which he actually tracks falls quite well which can be quite difficult if your money making ability is the catch so yeah for right now. Definitely an outside guy. He needs to have more shipping s with his feet and have a little more grew to it. Grew to his steph. Otherwise you'd never going to be big asset as a slot receiver on inside so in michigan at michigan and with the steelers run blocking is something wide receivers have to do a nico collins. Standard is a guy that could be give you value even as like a rookie if he's a death receiver if he's not the number one guy. If if you are trying to that slot is he a guy that brings us to run blocking the guy who can go. you know. Put a hat on safety. And also specialties bringing value there. I don't think he's going to have value on special teams. I don't think a team would utilize him on special teams gunner or a punt returner off but the blocking questions very good one and i think he does hold value as a blocking receiver. He was even quoted before in one of his availability through the years. How he takes pride in being a blocker. Of course he lost some battles. you know. Not every receiver larry fitzgerald or hines ward and the you know an amazing hall of famer and blocking receiver but for a guy is going to be a rookie. This year liked what he didn't college in that regard so yes now transitioning to tama grown. Obviously having watched. Evan bush play back in his michigan days. I'm curious whether or not you think. Grown is someone who could play beside the devon bush or do those. Two styles clash. They don't clash. But actually i think i was thinking about this today. Obviously i knew. I was going to talk to you guys but i think mcgraw would be a perfect. The steelers would be a perfect spot for him now. I have my skepticism about him. But i think being around the bush again would do wonders mma grown. I had trouble communicating last year with his other linebackers and Safeties linemen and there's definitely too much miscommunication And then there are times. Where the season before Great sideline to sideline lateral -bility of getting to the ball carrier snuffing. Out runs and definitely lost. Hitch hitching his step. Whether it was mental weather is a combination of mental and physical. I definitely think some the storm from this past season concerns scouts With that said if you look at some his film from two thousand nineteen some really great mill. Definitely a guy can even get in the backfield and get to the quarterback on some different blitz packages So i think a team like the steelers maybe not the steelers. But who hasn't other young energetic linebackers he can learn from and that he can try to embody and mimic would do wonders camera ground. Do you think he. He's a guy who's going to thrive in more of a coverage role where he is dropping back covering people or is he You want to set free and let him attack the offense and you know. Try and get some tackles for loss. Make make the splash place. We're kind of linebacker. Is he better suited to play. Jeffrey you your michigan guy. Right i i'll send you for this now. I'm setting you up to but think about all the times that you know. Linebackers were asked to play man coverage and all the times ohio state and others just dashed gash done with linebackers that it couldn't cover now mccrone sometimes could cover okay but when it mattered most. Oh my god people at burnham so i think for the time being and once again he could develop into a better coverage linebacker but That's definitely to be determined He's definitely has better in run support. better just like you said when he's able to just attack and death Have some free roam and i wouldn't Until proven otherwise. I'm not going to tell you any michigan. Linebacker can cover. Well i just want to throw a little add on to that. Steeler fans no devon bush has become an incredible coverage linebacker. He he started on some serious flaws even even as forty year. You could see it. As first couple of games teams attacking them with titans and he got one interception and they were like our our stay away from w bush and last year he was doing stuff on film. That linebackers can't do actual develop into it yet. And i gotta add on. I absolutely loved evan. Bush definitely one of my favorite michigan players to cover. You know just just so much. Heart is definitely disappointing. Went down last year but yet Devon bush. I have to clarify the exception to what i just set. The guy can cover is absolute baller. Do you think. Do you think camera would be a good pairing in a in a system where mccrone is taking on more of the three four system. What you call the buck linebacker role where you are adding on run. Plays an often taking out taking time kind of filling in for the fact that you don't have a fourth defensive line up there while devin bush place behind him without being ideal role because that's that's one that interests me yet. Now that's another one where you see some film of grown that he is able to slip in somehow it between a couple of lyman. Find that crease and get to the ball carrier. But then there's plenty of thumb of mccrone is just getting absolutely thrown around by some physical lineman whether it's you know what's kansin ohio state. So he needs. He gets stronger in that regard and what makes him good. What makes them succeed when he does well. In that role is his aggressiveness. His is a quick twitch his ability to diagnose quickly and so much of the game footfalls mental in cameroon. To me is a very mental player. And when we've seen him really engaged and into it the guy can be lights out but then there are other times where he doesn't seem as engaged you know he loses that millisecond to where then he's a little too slow and then he's getting thrown around by guys stronger than him so when guys are always strong and you gotta you know you know how to use your leverage. You have to know how to be shifty. So i definitely think like i said. Uh you know the start. The conversation off is Being around a guy like bush. I really think would be perfect. But it'll be funny a few weeks from now if that actually comes for wishing one out of thirty two chance. You're absolutely right now. Transitioning outside to the corner spot. I'm on ambery thomas. Someone who can play a physical slot type rollers someone. That should be playing on the outside. I i think right now probably should stick to the slot. That guy has so much heart. I think he he. A rare condition called colitis. Don't quote me on that completely. everybody go google it. But he had a really bad condition and he battled back from that and just had an absolutely incredible season. Twenty nineteen. Jim harbaugh loved the guy. There is actually one time. Where was michigan win. I forget what game but harbaugh of brought him with him to the press conference in thomas set next the entire time. That's the type of guy. Thomas is off the field which translates to what he does. On the field gamer. He loves football. Not the biggest guy in the whole world would. He plays better than what he is with that sad. I definitely like to see him in a nickel type role. I think you'd absolutely thrive in it. But i think he can play everywhere. There's a lot of undersized. You're not exactly a strong and stature. Cornerback zoo a play on the outside but yet can you know how to tackle well. They use their shoulder. They flying like torpedoes. And thomas love for the game and his willingness to do whatever it takes for his teammates. I think will ultimately happen plane. Wherever on the field back you are correct It was colitis he had to deal with. Thomas like you said seems like a guy would start off. You know starting in the slot you know. Give him some time to adjust to the nfl and move him outside. If it works out where where do you see him. The draft value is like. Where do you. Where would you rank on quarterbacks in the draft. I would rank him. You know to me. I'd put them in the late second early third round range. It's hard town with him. I mean any time. A player ops out. It just has me a thinking that there whether it's right or wrong and of course anybody who opted out of the season. I'm not watching it. But it still hurts the evaluation process from a scheduling perspective from these teams and executives. So the question really would be you know. Did he do enough. Did he do enough in his previous time. Michigan to where teams are willing to take them out to or early round three. Because those are still highly coveted picks. I say yes. I say if you just look at his body of work and you don't patron twenty twenty in the opt out at all. I think there's plenty enough for somebody to go along and and give them a shot. He was playing talent in the big ten. A lot of time. You see all these corners from these Rinky-dink schools get drafting around to just because at one specific actor who it's the sixth recorder or he ran a four three but kenny. You know an thomas definitely can't smart guy and i think is off the field attributes and his love the game. I would be shocked to see him. Go before the middle around three now. We are getting to the top of your time. But i do want to ask you about ben mason. Is he some news. A fullback tight end defensive. Lineman can you break down ben mason and what he can do in the nfl. Yeah it's so cool you save the best for last and i'm so glad you asked about him at all because fullbacks you're getting phased out that can't happen but no. He's not a defensive lineman to me. Mason is a prototypical pullback in then has a lot of upside mine pinon as an h back mason. He's showed he can run some decent routes enough speed to warrants being. Ah back at times. And i definitely think he can do a little bit of damage catching the football as well but he is one heck of a blocker the guy just as our nose as it gets. He could've played with no helmet. One thousand nine hundred thirty and absolutely destroyed people in been the broccoli gerski of that day i have no doubt but times change Running back positions gotten faster but knows this guy belongs to the nfl. I think he's gonna stick around the nfl for quite some time. I remember a couple of years ago. I talked to phil steele. Espn analyst always has a college football preview magazine and he was saying how he thinks back then a couple of years ago that mason is going to beat the best full-back that will come out. Whatever drafty sent and now fast forward a couple years later. Here's the issue is if you look at mason stats. He was not utilize property he and no business being on the defensive side of the ball. The guy is an exceptional fullback but then mission brought in office coordinator and gaddis spread system. And then forgot. What a pullback is. They had trouble running the football but still never really utilize mason a whole lot. And then guess what guys when mason with in the games a fallback michigan's running aimed got better. But guess what they never figured it out. And that's just a little bit of a shame and because a it could've done for michigan and run game and their offense but just what could've done for mason's college football career so that's disappointing. But i am very high on ben mason and any team who gets him is very wise and running games going to get better because of it. I absolutely guarantee it. I don't guarantee you a whole lot when it comes to evaluating prospect. I want to throw in real quick before we let you go. Mason as a fullback. Does he have any versatility to play in. Line is a tight end. could he play in an h. back role we are do offensive. Coordinator matt canada. Who worked with you know. Derek wyatt in wisconsin was with sarah lind when they torch the buckeyes nearly beat them over time. He uses a lot of h backs and wings backs. Is that physician that ben mason could fill you know along with fullback to make him a guy who could be a valuable player for the steelers And maybe maybe a replacement in the future for derek y. Yeah no. I completely agree. I think he makes would be best utilized. Nfl as a fullback h back. You know whatever the package. The game situation calls for He can fill both of those roles he has has enough ability to be pass catcher to be an h. Back a traditional tight end. No but you get him in motion where the opposing defenses. Don't necessarily know whether he's just he's going to block or if he's rolling out for a catch i think he could definitely be a major asset and his blocking or definitely question so i think it would be a very good bit worrying team like the steelers are any team that says hey we could definitely use h back and fullback on one. Awesome before we let you go. Is there anything you want to plug now. Manages as brew also on the espy nation network and No trevor woods. I definitely appreciate you guys and I have steelers fans in the family. And they'll be happy to hear some conversation that i had with some steelers guy so they keep that our pleasure. Thank you for joining the program all right. Take care guys trevor. Now for everyone. Listening here on youtube and facebook. Just hang tight. We are going to jump into a quick couple. Second break evan. Listening on the podcast platform side. Just click over two part two now. Jeffrey and our will continue along pretty big day in steelers nations from signings. Some rumors will get told that in the second part of our podcast. Just hang tight.

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Cool FAB-Racing 2018 - Round 8 - Tattershall Sunday Afternoon Races

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Cool FAB-Racing 2018 - Round 8 - Tattershall Sunday Afternoon Races

"Place is cool. Bracing, British minibreaks championship facial salaries to be big. Good afternoon. Welcome to cool fan racing. This is cool, five racing radio around as of the two thousand eighteen championship. This is the final set of races for two thousand eighteen. We already underway fall outs into the mini GP, seventy race hair on motorsport dot radio on the cool bracing websites and social media. Thank you for just joining us after the lunch break. We're having a great battle wherever Belfort at the moment leading this many GP seventy as to find a one of the season two point, seven seconds ahead of Baillie Stewart Campbell while Seapower no rice out the exhaust by Obeidi Campbell challenging into ternan is a long run that takes you on the start line on as he heads just behind. He's gonna go side-by-side Beatty Stuart Campbell, enter number one, cameras, balance the position into the corner, nor quite he gets on the brakes. Econ. Stopping in time remains and place. This halfway stage getting overhaul in this race, five laps. Now we're on even open eighty. Stuart Campbell Vaasie Panama, no, in maller Vince Martin fifth-place ahead of our be only just eighty thousand second volley Walker, Thomas Gomez, Sean able and Taylor loans. Somewhat Lee, Holly Howard's enjoyed round the top team. Oh, and melon had been in that Basle before position. However, he has just broken in those laws few laps gaining over second to been smart behind his just coming under increasing pressure. Now from Harrison. Crosby Molly will that battle. Fifth really looks to be hotting up during this mid stage of the race. Meanwhile Sipe by side into China. One again, Rossy PanAm going for a look at the inside trying to get past Bailey's, Dirk Campbell. He's in third place at the moment he wants second econ point to it though, on the transition from left to right. It turns two and three seabound leads to ready lineup, something else up. Foreign cornering needs to go for move down the street and. Block pass very short Campbell at term on. It's not ready many places around the other policy circuit, he can do it. So we'll see him at the moment. Little bit stuck for things to be able to do Evan, both with just claiming the traffic as I come to the phone, and I've Ivan bell for this blind where they gonna be a hat. Trick of wins for him became only all those by shirt. Campbell Rossi Palam no change in the top three tell you what, whether is change though fifth-place Harrison Crosby has got ahead of fin small, but I don't think Finn is going to let that go easily is fighting back and going into the first time Venice going around the outside. It looks like Crosby do defensive line, but it's no use. And I think Ben has got him bit of twitch. Put east through Vince smart back end steps out him. Now he's lucky to the in lucky to hold onto that position. Harrison Cosby will not wanna. Let him have that Finn small had a first podium back at Gleneagles. He'll be hoping to. We won't began on the Ponant ABM where. He hoping to finish this season on the high place. We'll do just as not big passable containing himself. Then it sounds in Cosby. Then only walk, Thomas kermit's, Taylor, Lawrence, the back of that group. Just it's a big one as I come across align. Evan Belford is still leading the baby shirt Campbell under pressure still from AUSSIE both of those trying to take that second place. Still trying for second base, three seconds between res leader, Evan Belford Beatty straight Campbell in second place. Going through the left right left happens. All very tight stuff is difficult to make a move there. Not impossible. Rarely got to structure or very brave on the brakes. Both of which can be quite difficult at the best times. Harrison, close defending only workers Thomas during the company. They trying to go side-by-side entertains phone and five couldn't make his steak but Finn small behind another ride avai briefly trying to get past the 'nother item in this race. Does get three with. I cost to good precious seconds. As you say that other right now is just coming on the back of Crosby and it's the backmarker I'm back could definitely be crucial in the battle for as we come across the light wealthy still leads. But this side by side with the runs down into the first time. And I think Thomas Gomez will try and take advantage of that. I think it's just about all the holding onto seventh, but it's so close in that battle early Walker doing more in Easter in the moment of Thomas Gomez at the moment. But there's not long left in this race in small broking Claire in that group, he's alone in fifth bases. All of our Harrison cost me now and sick Grassi PanAm is still unbathed shirt Campbell's case through the neck and neck down the straight, no move this summer. Evan Belford three point, eight seconds lead. He has his lap on lap quicker than the two behind him. So Evan for gotten no worries. At the moment, he is often running at the front is huge battle for. Second place, two and a half lout sick through turns full regain our battle for second place. Babies at Campbell poach on point one months, who was the gap over the line. Last time between the vied is in second and third place. They gave it a good go. He's getting very close as Rossy Banham. He's following Emmys following his following econ, quite standard side, a make decisive move. He might well leave it to the last few labs. We all ask you laps, two nights left to go, which will separate ever bovid and this race victory Rossi Burnham survivors left inside trying to go the other way around the Cup. I on the content. He gives it a go, Rossi PanAm can't cry, make his, he's grip, but he hasn't got enough. These look it. I think he's rehearse in four that last lap or else wants to show Gumbel too much before the final circulation of this one kilometer cost touch ashore behind them falls by his own Mela. He's very lonely ride. The big battle is for sick by smart. In sync byte Harrison closely is all Walker, Thomas Gomez, and then tell you the Lawrence company. So it's a big puzzle there in that group as they come through. Now, Finn smart is in the complex faith is lost lap time at the front ever Belford as leading. He is leading Bailey shirt Campbell, the maintenance second place, but the through turn number long than thirteen miles of us. He banner has a bit of squirm on the exit, and this is really shaping up to be a decisive. You corners the red by number thirty, waiting for that ever lucid move all out of Lucy mistake from babies. Campbell who is one many times in the coup fabricating paddocks, but it is a bit of a Latigo is all that separates Evan Belford from race, fixing and second base by two quasi van. I'm gonna go, look. He can't quite do it though. I haven't Belford lane in at the moment. He still got all done in tested. He's got one Hornets ago. Evan Belford takes away Bailey shirt. Campbell is going to be second. And third Rossi balance gets it him on the lawn. Couldn't quite do it. Fourth is going to be mala no questions about that big, very good rods him faith is going to be thin smart. The question is going to be six. The moments harassing really Walker has not yet found a way through coming through to the line comes from smart. That's Harrison. Charles bay will be six summer folly. Wall Kasama Stomas eight. And we are expecting a Lawrence to the next one as Paxil down, failed shoulder to shoulder a cost salon Necker next saffron Wally. Did she get Sean able? No, she didn't miss that. Fifty five thousands of a second half close to you. Holly Harris cost, Joe Farragut in the teeth, water rice. That was a fantastic race to end the mini g. p. seventeen championship season in two thousand eighteen lettuce reminiscent with the highlights from that third and final. Ace of the week can Novell strategic Mazda clause from our two people on the podium being Evan, Evan failed for the course was the race winner. But then we'll see and played Easter. Campbell had some frontier scrubs for second. Third, also that brilliant race including ours Cosby who defended tacitly throughout the entire twelve lap encounter man doing their way through middle potion of the second. It's an incredibly ties twisty, complex really can nail it. But you can also make a pretty poor job always vase winner, though Evan Beaufort now to every single up and the best a forty six point zero one zero that was his. That was the best as anyone really pushed through the very end. So thank you very much full joining us Ed own the Kufa racing websites, own motorsport, dot radio, and on social media. Thank you for joining us live coverage of round eight of the two thousand eighteen coup fat racing British many. Championship money's Dhamma alongside Kika, Charles and corna Jackson, please do leave your us know who you're supporting in these final races of the season. He wants to do really well in these races coming up next able be the forty pros goodwill lineup with Mason foster and Sullivan Mounsey on the front row with great Johnny gone s and Clayton Edmonds on road to lonely. Harrison, lucre Hopkins on three ahead of Ethan sparks, Harrison, McKay Choi, Jeffrey and Jamie woodcock. Then we have Jada how Taylor's to Campbell, Gregg, Marshall, Keaton pain and Jacob Stevenson. That's how the great is gonna line up. Well, they make their way on to the grid Kona Jackson. This is the final round of the championship, how much she think these young writers want to go out with a really fantastic rice as you as you say done, this will certainly be all nothing drivers on their bikes. Mason foster will certainly be hoping for another strong. Zolt here at tattoo show, but have some strong writers further back as well with the likes of Clayton Edmonds who performed spectacularly on stay with his defensive maneuvers, wow, spectacular defensive maneuvers being hats by many of our Vitus hair in paddock, but we get ready for the start. Then the third and final time this weekend. And the final time in twenty eight teen. Thank you for joining us. You're listening to live coverage of round eight of the two thousand eighteen co Fabri seeing British many championships, live on motorsport, don't radio on the cool bracing websites and on social media, the lodge was moved to the signs off the grades. Has we already four? The foresee pros race, three. Staal I'm Marshall. Snidey back to the physician degree. White goes up between Donald as well as he could starts boy off by Mason foster and Sullivan Mounsey a bit creeping as they make their way into tone for the first time. Sullivan mount Detroit's go in for the race lead, but as they make their way through turns two and three for the first time out of eight, it's all action start through the first corner, cleanly Manzi lead into turmoil, didn't lead out threat because that honor goes to Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, garlicy late anyone sign of this year wherever tree hasn't won yet this weekend, they want to win now. So Johnny Ghana's leads this race make some foster your champion. AC forty for this year is second thirty seven Mounsey, but I think that Foucault, you'll eat him for light. That's Johnny. Don is at the moment under pressure from good rival Mason foster. They come down towards the far corner, flat-out through now, crossed the line down the stripe. Great, run on Johnny garnish. What area as stability that you needs. Not. They started Don whole done John Foster Mounsey Edmonds Harris, Ethan, sparks, Luke Hopkins McKay tighter, strict. Jamie would cook top ten. I'll tell you what the move that foster made into turn. One did compromise slightly out of corner in Mounsey has taken full advantage of that. His all over the back of him. And as a result, we really do have that breakway three in the lead now with clay's headman just falling slightly back Gonesse foster Mounsey as been like that for the entire season in one way or another. Those three are the cream of this icy forty pro failed. They have got massive futures ahead of, but right now out on track, Johnny garner winning at the moment. He takes very defensive line down into the phone corner that sacrifice his exit because, hey, comes poster, neck and neck down the stripe, fucking wave it in the biking area thousand make some foster get the job done this time. Now he doesn't just sit back one more time. Sullivan Mountainair starting zoo, become a slightly detached that lead in Johnny Don push it on. Futons to Mason foster tries to carry a to speed through three and four wasn't able to do so and make a move on darnest who's still your sleep? Don't turn five. It was a late ledge going through turn three and four, how to vary late surge of grip and speed, but couldn't initially make it soon. The end site that means joining gone. S your race leader, how was only eighty three thousands of a second coming over the line. But as challenging Mason, foster going to war sa- final few corners lining up for a movie on a yellow flag on the ice at turn seven, eight to that man's always sided out seven. Well, as we continue on with the racy side by side for the vase, the this time Mason foster is through it was fifty three, thousands of a second going on the inside over the start finish line. He is through now Mason foster leads this race ahead of Johnny Gonesse. Sullivan Mounsey white is way back up into third place. An interval contention for second places while sir three Airbus over the race lead stale, but Mason foster actually starting to make a little bit of. A gap Mason foster now? Willie Claire off, we thought he would yesterday. Did we thought he would any as will he do it again here, yellow flag still out just been taken actually fall who Stearns at the side of the circuit little bit winded by ease Pinocchio. Ron made some fosters head down. Now boss stop it three Mason foster forty nine point seven on that last lap free, five inheriting place onto the Clayton. It's walls Ronnie Harris who is really pulled away. Now they saw to pull away from Luca Hopkins in fit. This really spread out. Further backwards is really just the top three, the close battle on track right now. Rony harasses other brilliant second after this year, he was kind of floating out in the first off. These ready come to our tension in a second off, runny harassed star for the future. Not number sixty six. We know what famous Grazer is at that before, Tom Sykes non other than the actual two-point champion. And as we gins anyone in this race, it is on that full the moments and Mason false leading four tenths for second ahead of joining gun as Sullivan Mounsey as having time at the moment going schools. Number one. Turnham award not place enough to make a move in China moment. He's very quick in the BAAs dime. Action changes mainly tends to for the infield section. They both so tit for tat rarely, but making no way through tournament three hours of a mountain. He's got a great run trying to get second place, just passing another vitamin this race, and as they continue into tens four and five, this does continue Mason foster with the foster stop footsie nine point seven, seven zero, good. Couple of tents, put. Johnny s. five times a heads of Ghana's Mounsey only house Luca Hopkins, Ethan, sparks house, McKay Taylor Stewart, Campbell, Gregg, Marshall. Jamie will call last year top ten at the half way stage took about Ronnie Harris. No, having too much pressure. Well, in that loss lot Luca hall concert office. Second out of these under a second behind now, honestly, battle for fourth is long from over the battle for the lead is also starting to look a little bit over because Mason foster, he's doing just what he needs to do just with a champion. Dow's Greeley here's ride in very, very well. He's leading this race. Second-place, Johnny, Donna, still Solomon round little bit detached. Now in third, those three have been so good this year wanna joy to watch as Ben Mason foster second after the seasons faultless almost. He has really got the hammer down. It looks like he's another win coming from today. I'm well as Luca Hopkins challenging for full place out in the moments point, four, five, five behind money, how is making now way down through turns eight or nine last really increasing that pretzel Monte highest one side. Good. As always you say, ready? Come along in the last half of this season. Ballplayers place could be just war. Baluch hopkins's even close adding up to time one face enough to make a move, not quite but really, really now conning on the pressure Sullivan Mounsey so fast in straight line. And he's so could on the brakes. I saw then he might just have a late lunch. Jumping of Johnny gone is down at term one, but really Sullivan Mounsey doing a grand job down that front straight. He as any lie as well. So palace away ratio in east favor over Johnny Don running a laughing a bit ago. I should point out further down the field. We all saw a few more battles about open now, seeing Gregg, Marshall lead Jada Hal Jada, how who's just taken tenth from Jamie woodcock and Kate, Kate, and pay. Those four are really going to these lost two laps, Gregg. Marshall, of course, coming up into the icy forty pros this year has been a regular in the comedy box. Joining us for interviews and just general Coventry's been brilliant. All the rod is up this year from the AC forty pros, and I'm sure they'll come again later on today, but out front Mason foster. I think he's just dumb enough. There's no way to Johnny honesty's close enough at the moment half up to go in the midfield section. Coming up into mall, turn six. Now Mason foster negotiates it safely. Donegal has got the better and the beating. Aww, Sullivan Mounsey coming after seven now shabas to eight then into turned nine hooky round long long, and the show bust Mason foster is gonna. Do a hat trick here. Walling unbelievable achievement Mason foster tixx away joining gun is second Sullivan Mounsey completes, hey, season with another podium one, two and three. Just like they are championship. False place comes to Luca Hopkins. So forty one Luca Hawkins dot the better Ronnie Harrison held it as well. So brilliant stuff there. Eastern sparks should be six hair becomes the number sixty. Two sparked through. He comes McKay. He's on cost for seventh place, but no doubt your race when Mason foster ahead of Johnny Gonesse and Sullivan Mounsey not round off what has got severe one of the best seasons of forty, four races sometime in until five racing championships championship. The AC. Forty pros Mason foster your twenty eighteen champion as winner. All this race only nine times. Second joining gone SO championship rivals for so long really went to the now on. I did do it front SaaS victory for Mesa, Johnny Sullivan Mounsey your podium, Nico, Imani Harris ahead of Ethan sparks, Howard MCI Taylor Stewart, Campbell, Gregg, Marshall in Jada how the top ten, Jamie woodcock Kiesel pain, Jacob Stevenson, unin Clayton Edmonds, only competing one lap. The race start then was a good stop by everyone is when the real Basle full of ice lead starts termer really close between Johnny guys Mason foster Johnny Ghana's initially getting good one Sullivan Mounsey Hollis, faster of time itself as well. But it's Mason foster doing what he does best just going in Pinson diving the inside. No one's going to China. Jim from that position, took the race win off the bye cannot move well. Me be celebrated over the winter head over to motorsport dot radio and onto the coal fab racing website way. You can catch up on all of the two thousand eighteen action. Thank you very much for joining us on might dot radio onto the Fabrizi website and on social media, live coverage of round seven and Deidra nights of the thousand and eighteen cool vibe racing British many by champagne ship. One force here. Moto teams had out on to second. Now, thank you very much. Also believing oil comments will read out, fueled rage, Sean McConnell, Wybrow Brown, Harvey Claridge Jesusa lineup on the front row, the grid, some clouds show Medica yesterday's when some causing whisker on VO two ahead of Phoenix hand Jamie king championship leader, but hobby clients, Evaline, challenging. This is one way going to be following closely for championship pursue with Scotty, sin. Blake, an so Henny mitch's and Fraser connects only top five rows. Simon Claus is in eleven at adjacent pew with Adam. Sweeney honesty meal connects an iron aglow in. Let's hope sixteen we do have five or six more inches and we did yesterday for today's races, so we will bring you an everyone is qualified over the course of the day, and as vita is just getting themselves into the correct order. Of course, it can take a little house in. Onto the vice order for way your qualified and well listening to live coverage on radio. This is cool. Fabry's radio, plenty of action still to come here from Tuchel in Lincolnshire. The son is really shining now upon the grade for the payback on forty and Moto team riders. Everyone just getting yourselves into the Kovac's possessions. Seesaw marshals just making no way to make sure everyone is in the correct position. I leave star two bills. The trepidation is as. And they says, live coverage, own motorsport radio on the cool fabric, seeing website as well round to the championship for the final time. Eight thousand eighteen whereabouts ago motoracing with the pinpoint one forty Emoto teams that green flag goes up. Ako sound very quickly as well. Going into turn one for the first time out at twelve Avon's gonna make their way through term one cleanly bit of Tapie only making up a few people making a lot of context running onto the grass fast time. That's not I to lots but three turns two and three everyone seems just about made it through, but the bus over the race lead various on Harvey Claridge's Leded, Jay king going into second and our easy xactly what t- needs to do now, put the flag out now j. McCain colts on to his pip crown. That is exactly why an we cannot be lower than second if Harvey clever twins, right? So Claridge Jamie king and third place, his arm clouds. So everyone else just coming. Does all bunched up time. We can really say how old plan now think shown Whitaker is in four Runako salon now. So on Claridge second-place base, Jamie king, sir, by some clouds fall. Stone, which a bit vice really turns bright stop faded turn as well. So vide- tan grades saw because I in a half seconds in the late ahead, a Jamie Kenya just needs to say that I've got my points on my despoil ADA predictions. One of the things we what says, sign up to, and Jamie king and say, can place and went on Costa hold onto his championship from last year. Some clouds said, haddish shown west caffeine. Expand fit mass cook. Great starts into sixth place phrase, Bernie ho carrying Henry, jeez, Simon cows, Asia tilt, ten Khanna Jackson. As you say, it's been a determined fightback from Jamie king list round Claridge has been on fire throughout Saturday and coming into Sunday and leading by the gap does king needed this result. And it's a result. He might just keep as he's under threat now from Mexico, impasse by master contracts, backs, cook has done throw. Now, the interesting thing here is Mexico was much quicker than hobby Claridge in the first part of this, right? So Jamie king. At the moment would lose his championship by one point is what it comes down to. So if max cook can get ahead of Harvey Claridge, then all of a sudden j. king can breathe a little bit easier of gunnison mega impressed beside clams I'm class tastic weekend near it. Touched show fantastic weekend for some clouds, winner in race on this weekend and his father. Simon winning in the motor team Israel, happy Saturday, full the clouds. Finally, a hobby. Climate was three point, four seconds ahead of mice, Kirk, Harvey clash over the line. So to Moscow new, his lap and two point eight seconds. So the gap is close game. Jamie king, bake cultivating pace, but shown Whitaker's pass. I'm house before place. Chummy ship permeates permutations is must cooking get past. It stay that really will. Jamie Kennedy gets position. Some classes just retaken shown whiskey down at term on so growed good. Move from Sam clubs. The price off was. Bold undrivable made him at made his presence spelt on shown witchcraft to pick her up at no antidote Simon clouds fights as way through the fail to think he has gone saves. He go ahead of Jason periods. Go on into other Moto team zits the thirty seven. We haven't got that on our time on. Claridge still max cook as they all failed their way through this rights max cook. Has he done anything to give Harvey clarity gap as one point, eight. As you say about the motor team battled, it's a real good effort from Simon Clough's again to lead, but a special mention to price akin out as an amazing start for him, pushed him all the way into the top ten and, oh, he has just had Bernie hook appears to be separating the two. No, he was just behind Simon cows and almost that motor team lead sarin clouds there in seventh place. So he's got work to do from that. And he always already the Mercer team champion. So no need to worry for him who's done Hayes work for this year out front avocado Trump's about this time as two point two. So it's gone up a little bit for some point. Nine for Claridge all forty. Eight point three, four max cook so is not what Jamie king needed to say. Really max has gotten to yet chasing after her after her be Claridge on the fatso still raging resign show-me consignment clouds that. Place over. Oh, and at the moment now running more or less line stand through turns two and three Radi hustling vice left to eyesight or side granny, using energy these pit bikes before the gresh, and you need to really write them well, doing fantastic job site, Barbara, Harvey Claridge with on lap five of the moment eighty go and it still in the leader, had a mouse cook, bring. Matt's got to put the real effort now to start closing in Harvey cloudy, joy with over the line, Tom boy, full. So max cook was foul eight tenths quick at that time because. Leisurely, come down seven to go max, cook, wins this, this championship. He's going to Jamie king. If he doesn't get past AVI coverage, this championship is going to Harvey Claridge. That's is what it is. Now, fishery now they're in the midfield over Trump to get. Let's see how that affects them. Probably average looking all. He's been held up by one team bikes turned seven. He's got firm now Mexico. He's next up next cookhouse to take voice avai sive action as well avoids collisions, but marks cookies row, right on the back of Harvey covered. Shoot a final corner cornerman across the line. I tell you if nights cook does win this, it would be an amazing achievement for the rider who I swear. I swear Jamie kingwood by Madrid afterwards because that would be an amazing achievements environment drink enough to be a kind of because Mexico is an eighteen yet. So I'm gonna be in trouble, had them cook, only inches that coming through in fall. So so close max to go the long way, round count, see who was the seventeen and that was Sweeny. So Adam Seraing them in a mobile chicane from expert to average. Join the I've Anita food after turn seven hour eighties game on championship patio in round eight of the two thousand eighteen cool Fabri sing British many by championship live on motorsport radio and on the cool Fabrizio website. Harvey Clarence leads this motor surveys in the by footsie Emoto teammates the final one of the season mass coke, seven tenths of a second behind at the moment that gap absent flows, but they've got five laps in which can decide the championship if months Coco's add of Claridge than Rb Claridge will not be the champion. Then no detail headaches returns falling five eighty five, not a festive time. It happens might cook mice, Kurt, thinks about tying the inside count, make the move out in the moment through left right and left the eight sites infield section. I'm Macy's. Harvey Claridge has got to really challenging. I always go my side by side. The allegations by Moscow desperate to take the race lead trying to go around the outside. He's gonna get the Cup coming into the final Kona. This could be crucial for the championship three. The final corner combined with a vice in line I saw line is a main Nana made position. I still ahead but only just it's two tenths of a second entertain. One reform after Harvey coach can nor put a wheel. Wrong pressure is on Claridge. Now he has got to deliver this. The tunnel afford to allow max coke to take him. He's gonna get straight back there. The autobahn. The autobahn overlook type. Jamie king is still there in third Feis fault. A Sam class is shown which cacique three turn turns bows all the way down. This failed with the big on. He's at the front today championship. This is Paul jump ship glory until you watch for though feel it's done and the Basle behind him as least six writers all intense facile than to six place. And it's going to the why. There's even Simon cows in the moti by still in with the PB with a p. bikes, unbelievable effort from him Sarma clouds. It's been mixed up there with a mold. Yes, service. Well, harassment will house this weekend. Harvey Claridge leading this race, max cook, pig, stiff down the inside at turn. Free couldn't quite get it done. Didn't quite such it out. Well, enough food turn three. Then. Now, side-by-side dance turn. Five Claridge holds on max cook once who is gonna take base Mark good. They this. We have got two and a half laps to decide the entire series air. The payback one forties have really come alive in this race today. Right? Straight. I didn't expect Jamie kings. We so far up fantasy other Beverly lanzi. I answer today coming through the final cornerback Marcus ity can do without that really how be fired. You're still leading to to go head Amax cook as debts on from x. cook to pinch this while we got a virus don't just on the finish line. The number, it's Wednesay, wider Kasey that is at a moment is placed on solar just going Yanni flanks up. I came. It was a brief into instead of title challenge Harvey Claridge through turn four at the moment into the infield complex. Once again, it was point four, zero. Four got note found coming through those corners, but as extending only slightly max cook, lost the and narrow Elda I do not know he's pushing on. There is absolutely no way he's doing his RV average a favor hair Mexico wants to win this right now that trapping we've thought kilometer and a little bit more ago and not as if max cook gets. Mind, Nick trafficking may roads by two, Jamie kings championship. So here she's looking on the inside. China get thirty trafficky hasn't done so dies boat, max, cook, right back into play that coming through turn to eight just one pig pig traffic jam Harvey. Claridge max hookah, stayed together. Max cooked lifting out the back now because this is incredible. Now we've every guy Mexico select side. Go to on the inside Harvey Claridge. Right. Aries. Max backs, hookah safe, Jamie kings charge. Dodd turned seven right now, gloves off backs took is only in Saudi quite get thrown Vikash, which turned nine with don't go along max, cook, charting the drive. He's not talking to do it. Carvey Claridge is going to pay the pay on forty champion. Cost allied AVI, Claridge's done what he needed to do. Max cook. Second place, third place. Jaime king will come across the line. He will not know that he is just been fought. It really off the chance to champion was only eight points. Harvey Claridge needed to go nine points more than Jamie king. He scores twenty five. Jamie king comes home at this heart and second disheartened. Third to be second overall, his payback one forty crown has been pinched from Sam. Vows just holds on the fork vice head Sean, Elliott, lachey six. We should get signing clouds gives us away as he fires on by Felix eight, nine, Bernie hook. Jayson Pugh completes the top ten. We have a new payback, one forty champion in the most dramatic of ways. Harvey Claridge on believable scenes here. Well, cone site, we Jason Pugh nearly put it a stray. Matt's Kirk managed to get through on that final it only for the briefest of moments, but the restart then finally starts vase for the final full Moto team race. All of this season. It was AVI clergy, a great starts Mets, Kirk sauce. Further back did manage. She gets really, you're not race, but couldn't initially get past hobby. Courage worked so hard over the cost of so did Jamie king, but it was not to be on forty feet and at the very last race with half a lap to go. That rarely must be a singing Phoenix. But Jaime king is a real grave item. We'll be back next season for more fantastic action. Ninety eight for the pit by one four. Not I'm motor teams, but will that means there's more fantastic action to come from finals day, hey, round. Eight of the two thousand eighteen Kufr bracing, British many championships. You're listening live on motorsport dot radio on the cool five racing websites and on social media. Thank you very much. You're tuning in to live coverage hair from Tuchel in Lincolnshire. Got a handful of harmful of few races still go thank you view comments. You weed out a few of them in just a few moments time up. Next will be the junior LC faulty elites. Well, one surprise. Eddie case Goeman returning to the fold for one nice only, but it was a manual Brinson and Evan Belford who starts on the front of the greats with Ryan Hitchcock and Mason foster on vote to grow three is Joe fire. Again, Sullivan Mounsey. We're just Bannister, Johnny, Aluko Hopkins, and Bailey's jury. Campbell saw seeing in. Top-ten, James, Kirk, and Choi, Jeffrey lining up back all the field, but as they make their way through and round onto the grits is going to be a fascinating race to understand weather a minute. Brinson will finally gets another one. Have it cooled, five all if Evan bell fit can take some more success from the Lincolnshire sec. It only time will tell, but the junior LC foresee elites are primes only create ready for a race starts in just I'm moments time. As divided, make that way. Then sue, the fronts of the grits real missing want us to from the frontier rose. What's your problem. As we get many, then full of ace starts and they looked towards degreen fact the final time in two thousand eighteen junior Elsie full elites, see the green flag. They are racing on. We get on new. I to all its term won't for the first time. This is a nine lap race on a good staff on the front ri- it's very good. Soften the manual Brinton into second place. Initially, coin close to, obviously Sullivan Mounsey is trying to give it a go as well. Started sick. The made some decent progress. Two front runners really doing very well. Indeed, Ryan Hitchcock in later they stand the manual Brinson in second, Johnny Arniston, fourth keister Gorman already from the back of the good case. Goldman is flying through the field like a hot NAS, do butter. He's slice way through turn, seven short bursts up towards turn eight and nine, Ron Hitchcock is man to reach at the moment. No, Ryan Hitchcock gave it a good start contracts in your thoughts as you say Hitchcock was really on the fly may one of the best. As all old way around the outside of turn one to just pay the lead. But as we come now into the second lap, it's so close between the front four runners and it's almost file five line to line as we go through into the second. And third term complex left right such a quick complex. So many might is in one pack. It's fantastic racing. We have here cool bracing, vine Hitchcock, go see and saw line to defend, but he isn't because Emmanuel brings now into the lead of this race. Four place almost changed their Sullivan Mounsey staying in third place defending in case you Gorman something here very often going always on the attacker fun sassy grind champion this season, but incident funnel, two corners off this lap and mine age. Coke may be trying to size money Brinson up heading over the line again, so long down to number one. So I buy side between Brinson h called Hitchcock only sideline minute Brinson covers selling the late third place or Sullivan Mounsey joining Gonesse. The place chaser Gorman in fourth Atla moment, son of a fed Hitchcock into the lead and that was on the exit on morning. Just go bad drive out of that first time non-eu Brinson Hitchcock he's back in backing late Hitchcock second Hitchcock lead in the manual Brinson second. Excuse me. Thirty Johnny. Gone forty. Sullivan is fourth as case. Goldman fifty. Sullivan six is Mason foster. We'll get it right a minute. As we continue. Many Brinson leads born. It's called still in second place. Ryan Hancock had a fantastic season so far. Brinton is still defending and time. Second place when I moved to down on going to search already. Casey Goeman doesn't take much does it. He's out enough of all day Sperry. Bashing nonsense he's not used to is in the lead their case, yo Gorman fry enough in the lead of this roast vine Hitchcock Bevan. Second third is Johnny garnish mega impressed, but Johnny gone. We've seen him have good opening few laps, but looks like he's in this for the long haul. Now he wants a podium in junior c, full deletes. I say this will it a lap ago at about this corner from from Gonul who got a great run out to ten, six to jump up into third and Anna's. Dan said, he just got the drive out to turn eight onto turn nine and straight three pass, Ryan Hitchcock. He looks like he's going to hold to it as well. Casey, comedy, star break, clairon. Cocky, second coming through the song finish every now, Mitch, second under attack from Sony darnest bolster the inside downing to turn on Johnny garnish. Does he gets it done on the brakes? He tries. He fails. He's out wide now not give someone Manziel bail the name ever in duck Shen to that pass these time. I thought something around he was going to take the Mickey out the pair of then, but he wasn't able to do so. So tesa Goldman still ahead of Ryan Hitchcock and then is Johnny. Ghani's force Salvin Mounsey fifth place, manual Brinton. He was ago. He wasn't eating echo, giving it a good run so far. We've only got ten minutes in this race in the moment, but often all in fluid in this Bruni Bresso at the head of the field vine hits coke. Second, Johnny garner said, I had a Sullivan Mounsey minute Brinson a Mason Fuster in Najib's Bannister also not say far away either, say the majority of the race on involved possible Gorman Gonesse hates coking. Ted Sullivan mountain full. He's not. He's in. Third now goes. Up the inside at turn one great old one through the final corner as vita stops on the left. Just exiting tournament one. It could be James Kirk, and they often okay. They just the pike tippy technical issue again. But now Sullivan Mounsey in therapy. Golden case Golan loses the front end very unkind juristic. But this means that Johnny Gunness leads this race, but case O'Gorman when he's had his mishaps house, HUD them, nobody Allston admittedly, but he has been able to come back from them and Gonesse Willie succumbs to the pressure of leading this race. I'll tell you police do not rule out case here. Going on is still five laps this race to go. And he got that lead within four laps of the start. Remember unease rod on the back of this tale already. So got more artist to pasta. These guys are going very, very fast, either up to speed leading the Merman Johnny. Is it be a brilliant right to sign of his campaign thousand eighteen where the win in junior Elsie faulty elites willy do it. We don't show Solomon mount. He's right there as well is really anyone's race case Goldman. Looking on the inside thing, that's just Panasonic parks underneath a brilliant move there. So where we crushed a leper go. He makes up for it with a pass on. These way back to all the funds of this, the number seventy fluorescent, yellow number seven, as more white backup does into six bikes. Now, Johnny gone is in Sullivan. Mounsey go head-to-head through this final corner out onto the very, very fast, straight hair down. Sullen amount. Don't good. Top-end spe. Does he move down the inside and make you work? He tries an almost tax. Johnny gone is on the, but darnest gets away with it. They don't need to rush. They still got two and two thirds of lap in which to make the move. But gone leads Mounsey by just Unna two tenths of a second vine hates coke in place of money. Brinson Mason foster v Gorman in sick at the moment. No, he's not. He's paused Mason foster so into fifth place, still make him positions all the time case go and just banish him involved in that as well. Luke Hopkins enjoy fabric of the other. One is in this raised nine hundred so far, but with two laps to go into finals, who corners and Johnny Gonesse sill in. A pound seats at the moment. Sullivan Maoz desperate for another rates, victory anchored role get it is not enough for only time that all setting up for the final hour. I tell you, quickest, that lost lot, though. Casey, oh, Ogle gone after his awful off two laps ago. He is straight back on the pace and straight back on the back pack of this leading pack. He's just the back of fifth now, but he's really hounding the back of a manual Brinton leading Johnny Ghani spill chatter going on down there at number five. He was bouncing in front end didn't agree stable. Then Solomon Mounties join along upper move. Those of just split that pack. This thought thing to stretch clear. Mounsey they are the ones going away. Ryan inch coke doesn't look like he's the pace. I must say fourth Pisces case third by Senate. Okay. So going right. Okay. Now here is your challenge case Gorman Kanye closed down one point, three seconds in one lap race to last lap. Now start a phone account down because he's gone as he's Mounsey through turns two and three. He's closing his closing inching ever closer Sullivan mousy so confident in fast flakes at turned two and three into the infield for the final time as well. Jonah's has to maintain off, allows weather advantage, but Sullivan mouse. He's got great traction into tone five com mak- move, but he's being closed, closing being real in by case Goeman third-place he doesn't want their place. So he wants these race win. He's right on the biker them up towards turn. Nine caso Gorman's good on the exit on his right with the has Johnny gone is what it takes. Hold on case Goldman isn't going to be Johnny cease gonna win one in law. Johny Sweden's Judy Elsie Baltia late Sullivan Mountie second case, Goldman fast, a slap on the last lap two tenths of a second, a blanket finish in the top three. But Johnny gone is finally wins a junior c forty elites rights and massive. Congratulations and from everyone tracks the big crowd here today fourth-place Hitchcock manual Brinton is in fifth by six for Mason. Foster Josh van is the Luke Hopkins, Joe Farag finishes, James Cook intense, but did not finish the rights. So James, Kirk, I'm, we'll be looking forward to having more of that in the next is he's in as a bit donor going on. Johnny Ghana's during a big old will spin just an interested of product celebrating in front of the great crowd hair touches, oh, the final junior c. full. She'll eat race of the season, a win a bit like this moving away. Way full. The first time it was a great starts by manual Brinson, but Ryan age Kalkin even better starts over the line for the first few times up the inside they full so so close in order to get these positions. But in the end they would go the way. Well, they win the why not case Goeman because Keijo Gama gonna grace then fooling in dramatic style, and he's done a few times been able to come back from it and still onto the podium. Thirty seven. Thousands of a second is the next is was the gap between the three of them, but is Ryan grants. He decides to stop from pole position in the senior mini motos next race hair. Round eight of the two thousand eighteen Koufax racing British mini by championship. British mini bikes championship facial partner series, two Bs. And then to the grade for the senior mini might CEOs bay provided us through some of them best action all season from the adults racing. Vying grants will start from pole position willed on by the fine club for one final time. NC thousand and eighteen just bear Kim lining up alongside on the front. Right? All the great Richard Williams ions, Chris yeoman's on, votes to a heads. Ahead of Simon Huntingford Bennett's with Bernie hook and Matt Burke in on the final all the good are eight starts is of course Benny hook using Andy Weeden Yvo by cushier explained to us just before lunch, how wonderful the pike cross really proud into fantastic anyone this morning butts. This is another one of our championship Brussels. And they make. And as they make their way into the grid. Now amu- pets get underway with vase star. The senior mini motos live on sports radio and on the cool five raising website the final round, all the senior mini motos gets no as a fantastic start for my book in putting himself into full place already on the back row of the grid as they make their way through turns one and see for the first time wasn't such a great start for vying grants, but it was Richard Holmes Williams leading raise out the moments and well, he leads by twenty four points needs. One point in the championship and in the moment would get more than us over in groves which I'm LIAM's laid in Warren gone is your championship battle. Of course, Richard, I'm always day and f, and then Warren gone could win and not would be able to to is at the moment don't time. Going up inside of him. Now they're gonna touch. Scholley, Matt Burke, almost getting involved as well, but Ryan gone falsely crashing his way through into the lead and take that position back rich. Into the company now. So. He may be your championship elect. You'll champion elect is not every down he's gone down is definitely not Evans a all his own way, but he's back up on the bike. He's back into the race. What did you say? Fifty seconds ago he could in fate, they could be back backup though. He's in eighth place still because enough for the tar. All the championship unless he does something else berry, just stop talking Kiko Charles because he's going to come into doing on he'll fly into the coma in come punch. Us still leads Paul now, that's all I'm saying. Ryan can't leads this race might not a fantastic stars into second place in a lap and a half. Now, all my challenging the race lead over the line. Once again, Brian grants as gone Irael pressure from behind my back. Any second place, Bernie hook on EBay by doing rarely one inside animosity, Glossop Chris yeoman's just Birkin. Simon? Huntingford. Top seven. Richard Williams a little further behind as you say, Matt Burke in is just chasing down Ryan now. But of course grant knows more than ever that this victory is absolutely vice over his championship, no matter what happens with him. Say he needs that win on no matter what Birkin can do. It will be about the race results. It's essential gong car win this championship unless he does. His part, which is a win at the moment is doing just that. But Richard, I'm Williams is in place now that's not enough for the championship to go the way of wrong Blondie be seven point show. It's all done yet. My Ryan grant still as Matt Burke in third place as Bernie hope for the right day. Rice funding them Missouri mind of van Ford and Chris yeoman's in faith. Go down to term one wrong grounds still in the lead of this rice from Birkin as you say, setting the foster. So it's you that three was Matt Burke, Greg, Vaughn outside one. Gonna take an as soon as I carrying into ten number three, but the transition has such a fantastic slingshot gun out to turn to took. The lead then is we take him almost is going to lose out to Ernie hook. He's got the fastest lap on that, not slightly modified. Bike is a full way pass for the race, lead massing cross up on the back of this as well. As you say, four, five battle for the Lido hook really on momentum now is about to say, was set in the false. Lamb I rider under the fifty second Mark, and he is the one to watch coming over the line. Now they are on fire. The drawing Dr late in the way from my Birkin is burning hope still would a five stop device downing to turn Matt Burke and all stations on normal vying ground leading. Matt Burke. He got good runs through there, but he didn't quite get it done suits. The long left under before the Ryan did flick suits aren't inform Birkin cuts the inside, but doesn't quite get it done. Ryan grant still leading. They rice from Birkin ni-nice Bernie hook then is Martin Glossop in full vices. I look down on the time just double check that one battle. They as full. Why scrap ball, delete fifth-place as Josh Burke and then enrich Williams is seventh keeping himself out any trouble for now back mile Kosabe we could do without as they come through to find a point of Ryan ground leads. As you say with homes Williams, he is slowly workings way back up the order up at the front, Bernie hook on the move. I just trying to get the move into turn one. I don't think he's done it. He's run slightly wide and will stick in third place. Just behind Matt Burke, definitely alert on, I think, barring Glossop Ganilau impatient and as well. Everyone just use all that corner, speed online, gone downing to turn five now Ryan gone holding on four now. Yeah, couldn't get much Koshi gone gas cigarette paper between the front and rear wheels of first second. Third, as they come down parenting Hoke dive bums, Matt Burke, and that's at turn. Seven beautiful little move their block pass. And that means running hook as in second place, no way through from Birkin to retaliate. Narrates all full believe Ryan Grahn verse as the restaurant. Plenty hoax. Boy, Gundy Weeden Ziv radio working well, Bernie Huggies looking tools inside going up the inside potentially turned on. They stay liner STAN. He thinks Ryan grown covers the time side leaves at a bit loose site by site Brady hook into the lead with a great move inside. But then my Birkin also choice the inside loses out full places that both to also side by side at the same corner. And in all of this Bernie hook does some out just manage to hold on the lead second-place divine on third-placed perky Marsin Glossop almost got two places out today couldn't get any further ground. He's trying to go inside at Turnham seven that isn't working. Meanwhile, Richard update. He's now into fifth place ahead of Chris wins, whatever grant does this knocking me enough to win the championship? It is going to go the way of Richard Williams or three laps left on as it stands. Downwind Grahn retakes lead and takes it down into turn. One hundred Bernie hook gets stopped very, very well as well. Look into covered the speed food turn to why we so strong. He's outside in that time. No matter. Third, fourth price for Glossop water. This as absolute thriller here, Ryan grunt blocking off burning hook down into turn five. And that gives Matt berka, Charles. They come together over grass doing the strimmer nab was that the was Bernie because I come through wave of apology. I hope it was anyway for Matt Burke into Bernie hope. Absolutely phenomenal writes in and that's just giving gone the half a second he needed. I should say, do not rule out Bernie hook, though the grip he has through turn to three is phenomenal. And I think the grip he has on his bike in general. His bed is better than the rest of the run. As we do have a pitcher, I believe that might be Elliott lodge, but up of the front is still Ryan grant leading thing. Elegy still lane writes, John. Camping is one of them down the back end of the grit aids away unserviced on Martin Glossop. Saimaa grocer was now going to our thing not second-place. He's gone through into second place. So mind not wasting time here. Mark Burke in back down to fourth third place now is Bernie hook, but still leading his Ryan grunt. He hasn't been affected until now. Right war going on. I was gonna, say, get defended because by gossip about so few for lunch, then down at turn. Number seven, turn them a seven. This is about to start. The final lap in this lip stream is going to be a long audit on down the back straight rowing. Over the line still voted over the line is side Bernie hook with the fastest lap. He's into second place at a moment only just still retains going into turn them one. So it might not be the best who for the race lead anymore. He is closing up through Ryan Grahn though through turn to three turned three, marching gloss stuck in Matt Burke in down to fourth place, but it is for the later moment, Ryan grant is just about holding on a labor, maybe going to be coming from Bernie hook, desperate for the vase, lead up the inside coming into turn six, Carl, make it work wrong, gone leading, Bernie hoax. Second mind, Matt Burke came forth. We're going to be one of these four and that's an absolute catastrophe happened. Where on the final lap in through the corner of this championship now Ryan grown, he's going to, he's going to try and take this way and it looks like he's got it done Ryan grant types. The way. Second third is marching awesome for his first. We are white with place richer tones Williams. He's. Going to be jumping. Each is William once twice. He's doing a wonderful A-league down in to the final corner, Richard. I'm Williams as the champion. Lofty made him, he made his all white put any in. It was good enough sick price does to Chris yeoman seventy. Simon Huntingford. An Elliott lodge already costs down in a Josh Birkin was David Tyree. So homes Williams issue or champion and Ryan gone wins. I think we had this earlier probably the best senior mini moats race over the air. There's been some great senior mini-motu races as well pilot, saying all this race, the thin and final over the weekend for the scene. Immortals was a great style. Then phone line grants, Mitch at Williamsville, getting involved in term on throughout the course otherwise, Perkin OSA Hannigan me, but then Mitch Williams down controversially annotate. Continuing to this day school calls on championship fakes a had a great whenever it's a great life for the race lead three full Pike's radio, getting stuck in. The course of the race, three wine at some points, rarely envious on nervous of some of these points nonetheless, say Ryan, gone wins the race, but Richard Williams wins the championship and it's the AC forty rookies now who come in with that fantastic race Kiko Johnson with the grits Samuel Munson. The Powell hound of this championship is on pole position thing is he's six pole of the air. Here's been absolutely phenomenal. Dhruv and dry is in second Fleiss Vernon where it's he is the fourth Charlie Huntingford fork Brady day in fit. He'll look in Sarnoff this year with a very, very good result sick place for all e Horner only seems some William Harris's eight Archie gives nine hundred McCartney completes in your top ten like Wilson, eleven. I had max where it c- Harry Payne inserting place ahead. All Eddie Jones. Luke feature there in fifteenth. Joshua William to nuke Scofield round out the entire grid. That seventeen riders is eight laps, each lobbies kilometer, an eight kilometer race. We are going to be in some fireworks. And of course we have the small matter second place in this championship to deal with mobile cover. That's in just a few moments. Your listening to live coverage of round eight of the two thousand eighteen cool racing British many bike championship. This is the final round of the season. We've got full Macy's Goto end the Twenty-eight teen cool five racing season life from Tosto ending. Thank you for all of your comments on social media's great to see her your supporting over the course of this race we can. We do hope do join us again next season for the next set. All fantastic championships twenty nineteen set to be bigger and better than ever Burks the determination on these young light as these are good. Some of the stars of the future. And of course we are the fish upon a series to be SP and will on the votes Motoji pay. So the vied is just making show they are all the engines or make sure they're reading up ready for the race starts marshals just helping to make sure everyone starts currently might be Henry McCartney though with a slight issue, marshalls are happy that the engines ready marrying SCO, look towards the green flag. Then. And it's not as they marshalls moved from the sites of the circuits. And it's not when the green flag goes up. It's when it goes down. Whereabouts go racing, mea, see forty rookies. Moves about websit down. We get on the way with this racist good stars. They make their way enter Turner one for the first time out of eight who's gonna be some uments and guess who good starts on the front row with grid a few following an, it's two ideas for the person in the race lead. Everyone else seems to be content squabbling for third place at the moment, won't us getting away with a slight technical problem, but a great scrap, the very front of the failed Munsan verses women pray said, excuse me, flashbacks to the race to earlier today with these guys Ruben break really on the attack now with Munson, and I think he'll be determined this time to actually get the better of him as we go to the run to turn eight. It does look like Bray does seem the more steady on his bike group embrace. He's in the running for second place in this championship. If he wins, then all Horner has three fifth place or lower four Ruben break to be second only Hornets just to confirm has been a top four. So what Ruben bright dozen new will be there in the second place in runners up position. But Reuben, Bryce Samuel Montanelli HANA, Warwick Brady and Charlie homes in the top five. A great run. Scifi even pray often does get a good start, but as they continue on with this race, so far, three tenths of a second between Bray on Munson they make their way end city failed for the second time out of eight. They're challenging very closely. Group embrace has had some great success in the states of this season. Samuel Munson Pinkett from the get-go few little niggles in the Henry Makoni was the original real dominance force in this championship, but then carried on, of course, leading this race. However, Horner is chasing them down. He is pulled away from the pack behind on as Brian Munson squabble themselves over the front of the grid. It's interesting to see just how much on a coup coats. However, I do eat my words in that Casey house lost time in not laugh two seconds actually to move in Bray up fronts on e will need to pull back if he is to reclaim second in the championship. They call the old just doing what. Chinese students contact with some your months in the ribbon Bri Munton jarred Gernany outside of Leuven, bright, wasn't able to do say so room and Brian still your race leader only just though I say that because Munton hasn't quite gone just yet. Munton is still trying to go outside again months. I'll tell you what he's going along around installed having to. I've worked with him about that. Fairly late on the brakes. Gonna say, Munson. Make me look on the battle for fourth is just as intense Warrick Brady Coney leads a pack of four with Charlie hunting, Henry McCartney and Finn and wearing all battling for that position that is also very close behind three more riders chasing them down. It could be very tense in the closing laps, as we look away from the vessel, I room bright as a leader. They snail still mass Samuel months and second. But with a the fastest for the race that has come on their first clean lap. So still fab, very close, nothing between all the holiday. We needs to do having a lonely race racing, third alone, race in third, he's good enough for runner up overall only Horner as you mentioned there place. Just staying right needs to peace, six seconds behind Samuel Munson, but fall seconds add of Warwick Brady as gots Hammy McCartney for companies well, as Charlie hunting and Finn in, whereas he that really starting to pose in now may be. Really enjoyable wants to watch. He used to be full for the time he did if you put your minds by kicker three ounce ago, but then as a championship started comes close by so really close in as well. But that's not to say the entertainment still is in that because they've out search a great season. All of them on that for now Ron about half distance on. It's all my office. Second team, Brian Munson, Munson discount, throw on Ruben, bright outset, turn fray and fall. So Samuel Munson. Now he's cleared track. Will he be able to pull away? We shall see there in the infield turn six. We're gonna ride down on the farside course. He's guy, yellow flags. Why? Even as at turn nine, the Exeter nine Samuel Munson aids or even at the moment, not all day all the home. His second place in the championship Holo whole good. So that is good for only horn remains in third party. Me thinking about it too much until the checkered flag foes for Samuel and really doesn't joy. I'm good victory at the moment. Does this. Young looking forward to him coming back next season. Have the cool fabrics. I'm going down. Goodness me is systematic circumstances. He's gone down. We will give up comedy, curses, warm day icon actually, say when, but Samuel Munson is gone down just as you were saying, Don about them, look in Pantene wins lately and looking good. He's been great to watch. Samuel Munson goes and drops. Unbelievable. I've been quite innocent this weekend. Long. We've had mostly Connor to deal with my fashion output. As we continue in this race is Ruben play leading from only Horner and Charlie Huntingford movement Bray. We'll get increased bumper points, I suppose, for being in the lead as opposed to second. And third, as you say, pray will be all about taking as many points, z Cantu horn. But that incident into the first corner Braehead got the run on months and and he did look likely to take the position or at least challenge him into the. I don't know if Munson was unsighted or whether they make contact with hard to see from this angle, but Munson was down e backup unease running around. Now back in the midfield at the lower end of the top ten. And it's been Bray, ten seconds ahead of all your no finds asked got so far. Johnny hunting in third had of hamming mcconnahey and Samuel moments, and to fight is the on this season. They've had some brilliant scraps over the season, and this is learning to be yet another one of them, but there's not an awful long time in this race left ago, two and a half laps to even brain leading, but can single Munson law, many points back Charlie hunting foot in third place, water, good, right. That is yet again, outta podium yesterday in rights, warnings on cost. Another one hand, he's in very, very well. He's miles clear Levy on fourth place. At the moment, looks to me like Kenya, McCartney Samuel months, and John get round him fourth and fifth, SMU months, Eze Cetinje science on potential Poggioli. I don't think he's done quite close enough. Put onto put jumping around with joy, opposite outcome position, Saudis si- well, Charlie buried himself under the Fareed under the screen to do. Anthony, we've got to the guy. Remember leads twelve seconds that gap. They're increasing it by seconds, allowed thought. He's a very large amounts to increase it even in the AC forty rookies only on a second ahead of Charlie Huntingford McCartney's now only three tenths ahead among San, but we got Blake Wilson, wallet Brady only seems fin and wearing William. Harry's talked ten on that sorta geigo sick through two tenths of a by about a second or nice turning out to be a real fantastic Paso right at the end of this as you as you say that battle in the midfield has been developing all race, and I don't think it'll stop until the finish, but we all coming up to the end. Now on Ruben Bray has just dominated this end of the race. Rueben Brian has been absolutely superb here today yet. Again, another way obey for young Ruben bri- he as one of the youngest as well. Ease one of the youngest immunised classy Acteal hopefully will be around for next year. He'd be such a shame not to have him back. He's going to be a future storm. I'm sure just as he Samuel Munson, but Reuben break turn, seven. We're on the last lap. Sir, that out to turn eight. The flick left now into the right hook, you background to the to the end of this lap the foreign rice. When the faulty rookies jumping ship Ruben, bright takes victory here at such a show. Second-place. We'll be only Horner not just on the road, but also in the championship. Third place should be Charlie Huntingford. We're waiting on him to come through. I can see non going mad only horn of his second jolly hunting for this. He gonna come through, yes as third place and not up DM. So Charlie hunting Sykes. Owed much to the delight of dot Samuel Munson as four ahead of heading Madani Blake, Wilson, radiology, SIMS, Fain Anwar itsy and William Harris, your top ten. But you final AC forty rookies win all the. We of the weekend of the day of the entire cool five thousand eighteen year in this class. Ruben Bri all the hold on a second. Charlie hunting a well earned. A hard earned and much deserve said what a great result they're full. They've been pray. A great win has shame. Samuel Munson was only in full place in the end was dead on cost for the victory right in the middle until I open my mouth. Unfortunately, we've been brave the winter ahead of all you Horner and Charlie Huntingford nine is your podium Samuel Munson in full place and none of bad way to end your tied to winning campaign Henry McCartney in fifth place. Another great was old for Henry, and then we are just moments away from the mini. GP fifties round eight of the two thousand eighteen cool Fabri seeing British many pike championships. The original and best British championships will mini bikes. This is cool racing. Right? So the mini g. p. fifty heads to the circuit Khanna Jackson has decorate indeed is Ron Hitchcock on pole position. He'll be opening for better luck this race off after almost taking the win loss. Timeout. Eddie O'Shea in second place. Harrison Harrison Crosby will be third head of Mason Johnson. Then Dylan mala Emmanuel Brenton Lucas frown on Ali Walker, rounding out the top ten is called paying an Alfie Davidson behind them. Allesandro Valente. Harrison, MAC, Harrison, medico, James Cook, Josh Bannister Taylor Stewart, Campbell near the back with Thomas Gomez covering Soulet and then jellyfish. So a good, good debt. And we wait then for the starts well, laps border side who wins final race of the two thousand eighteen mini GP fifty championship. Mistake make that way on city grid, the Rev start to build listening to live coverage around eight of the two thousand eighteen coup five racing British when he championships own motorsport dot radio only cool, five racing websites. Annals -ocial media. Thank you very much. Joining us about head frontiers, gracing foam, the mini GP fifties day, make day way down to ten one. For the first time, then out of twelve is a good start from wine, hedge coke in the lead of this radio into second place. Their place is the number looks like it's one of the malaise number thirty one Mellon into place full place at the moment. Very close while Lucas Brown getting involved with us, then Mason Jones's stolen ov- Eddie making a position on the number sixty nine Lance. As well that continues on in this race and on his house and Cosby. He's been losing losing to position losing three position losing more because he's been overtaken barley Walker and a whole host, rather wide is one that can please it just about to come over the line and your res later is going to be over the line. Now Ryan heads called point one, seven, seven ahead of Eddie O'Shea Dila Mana. Lucas, Brian Mason. Johnson roster, talked five cave. Your is on the way they sees exactly what they didn't raise. One didn't push to the does. It was right there towards the end money needed to be an initiative right at the death. So another good rice in prospect. Eddie shi'as come at live so much in the second off the season kinda white to see our performance that share all ready, but Ryan Hancock, Khalid in Idaho shy, Dylan. Meta Lucas brownie full racing Johnson faith on the podium in fall, of course as well. So keep your eyes in top five. Now is firmly on the south five at the moment, joy, Spanish during sake, holding off only Walker on the last line may want to change over the course of the last a head coach side by side with an through even before turn them on shakes, takes the race, lead ahead of iron-heads coke Diller Mana now sizing up Ryan heads, colts second-place finish pretty well. Actually put my knees brag on one surveys lead back coming into turn, three hundred survey. Quick complex into time for defending well, rarely complaints pike, very well con- Eddie confident very confident. You don't necessarily need to defend the to aggressively as just about holding the line properly as you say is really grip of the of the bike now, but Hitchcock is all over the back of him. He is making fun efforts into the back all the leads. A, however, in fourth place, Lucas Brown. It's just falling away slightly with Mason Johnson who recently set the faucets lap chasing him down. Of the front low. It's three, the lead into turn one, but Eddie O'Shea Keats it on this with Hitchcock hounding him on on the back idea, shaded, hedge coke second, it was closed app at Diller. Mela looks. ARCHE could be the move for in shaker in this group. Hey, Arthington Mel is on for a very good result here yet to win this year. I think he could do it today. If he keeps Bri. He's in the mix. He was in the mixing rice one as well. So dinner Mel is a good turn of the Mela family. I enough on testing me. Inhale, Taisho signing off the season, very, very well in Dade runs of it. Why that I had a ton seven up towards tonight and nine still leading down towards the final corner. This is the most important corn on the whole tribe because you've got a good run out of that down the straight, very, very important. You only late raking move. Then think about doing he not this time, not able to quite get the move salted food turned to still on Hitchcock. Dinna Melissa Lucas brownies. False makes Johnson has a look inside at turn. Three call three. He's in fifth, sixth place to me, Josh Bannister. Nara is a good start. Just Bannister came from fourteenth on the grid. Can you believe he's already in six price? Seventh-place. I think that belongs to only walk. As you say. But while you're saying that the battle for second heated up, it was a move by Hitchcock into what was turned four, but he didn't quite get the drive off the corner and Mela is all over the back of him as both of the now come on the home straight Mela has the advantage inside one, Shirley, he can outbreak him. No taste coke. Keeps the position what a breaking maneuver from his cock. There. Delight break his, he's all about being late on the brakes, but you kind lose momentum because if you to on the brakes, you may as well just not bother at all a manual down in what nine places to stop. It just shows the pace. We are gonna have a big big group in the comet by a pound three seconds here. Absolutely head to tail of the battle will. Fourth is becoming the bathroom for the lead. John Bannister has just taken these packed behind him and because he's just holding up Ryan Hitchcock and Dylan ever-so-slightly. It is allowed Bannister Brown Walker central to all this battled for the lead. Now for night seconds walls, the gap back to maneuver Winston as now just four seconds are manual Brinton. It's still flying and he's just on a not stop larusso Kim yards on the menu seminar together. There's plenty of time left in this rice just yet plenty of time as well. Heredia shake to lose the league because right Hitchcock he's all over the back of him. Dylan Mela inferred by just banister in fourth crite ride from Chuck Spanish to who would have seen this coming from where all so far back on the good downing full team twice. Well, making players at the moment. Any Ochej sill leads this race points to three. One was the gap coming over the line. The last time they're about to start the half distance, complete their seek racing the moments and say, well, maybe completed now point four, seven ahead of Ryan hates Dylan man of about half a second mind as well. But now they've got a few of the vied is in this race against time with just in front of them, and they gotta have to what they away around can be when trouble sausage do a whole lot of time and just get stuck buying them at turn. Number three into turn four Novon down to the first hairpin. Eddie shea does hold onto the, but it's been hard, Ryan edge coke right on the buy dinner. Mala also used it to great advantage. Crucially, Josh Bannister has also followed them through so now can join parts of this. Train as well as only Walker, the be into up to put its helps closing just a little Lucas brand on the cross staff as he was coming out so seven. That's how far why eagle pushed because of the traffic Siva cross the line as a bit of a gap. This time over on Hitchcock just banish. The fourth is aren't down into term on, yes, it does all the Walker fit. So go breakaway group of five now, sick by Salukis Brown makes seven tile tonight in the manual tonight in ninth. So pigeon's progress has been halted just because of the traffic had together around so annoying for Princeton, but we've got a good top quality group, five ane our sites have marshalls running down the term on as happened down that, no, yet I flag it seems that a moment. So its own fighters, small debut that had come up. One of the that seems to be fine at, say, half a second Claire, remind heads, coke dilemma, Thad added your Spanish. There. Then it's walk at Brown Johnson pain and drinks in Alfie Davidson intent moment across being eleventh with Jane's twelve thirteen for Thomas game as fourteen for McKay and ten and fifteen. Ben, Johnny Taylor. Stewart Campbell on a lot town at the moment, but eight owning on good second. Second-place is a little bit more consistent with Hitchcock with places. The one that's really being full John Bannister in the critical final step on the podium but goes really quite wide. Indeed. Any loses facts to Dylan mandate. Seems like you managed to get quite a good style. Style Mason Johnson's gone down, lost the fun at turn five, so bikes. Tile kicks as well. Anger l. pit mice come on. They will is he doing picks visor up on lucky for Mason Johnson Marshall's running back at the front. Now Eddie. Oh, Shays gap as coming down just banisters Darren, second-place believable, John honest enough to keep funds still company fourteenth on the great up to second. If he wins, they dot the best race win in this class all yet. Josh Bannister has sites on the lead if he can do. He surely will marries come so far back to where we needs to be Josh Bannister looking for that win at your shade out to prevented say, I believe that was as a result of Kalkin mellow fighting down to fifth Mela downs of fourth is not been a good second half of the race for those suit as only woke up to third behind Bannister be interesting to see whether all know at year. Go response should just banish the go through the coming down through the final corner. Now cross the line. Petiot just banish the for company hair in the bike area for time. One who's gonna shade tips in IOT war kade'er still in third by stock Spanish. The still ride very, very well. In second Iranians anyone's rights to the lab and a bit to go go, you say it's anyone's raise is a very head of any as as determined as ever to take another vase. Victory, only Walker inter-plays challenging for second place with just bonus takes whatever Josh can only walk if things he can do better coming into the infield that through the infield full the ultimate time in this race. But the number one, one, four as in position won't leading this. Race won't left to go through the punishment cornerman about to cross the line and say, has got one more lap to record yet. Another victory in the mini DP fifties, just today with a great run in last night, they were just one, ten, separated in terms. Walk voted Termine for that final step on the podium MRIs going to be where the real pass. Okay. Comes into Eddie O'Shea leading Spanish the now that west left, this turned five. That's an opportunity, but I don't think just this stuff today that that's a hairpin everyday. Now leading just banish the holy war because they're waiting to pick up the pieces should be any left for western sakes as another opportunity gone downing turned seventy very one line to hear Eddie. I'm Shay I think's enough aim hadn't. Joe Spanish is gonna take massive, run out duties, loss corner to Pinole corner of the year for this class. Just furnaces, close knit, closing Eddie O'Shea. Eddie. Oh, got. I think that coming to just banish the doctor, the. How close was not. Gets it, Josh banish, the second, the best second. I think we have ever seen. I only walk at the Dylan Mela is for a manual Brinson fights back to faith with the fastest lap of the race. Rhine Hitchcock should be six, seven, pecan pie. James Polk will be in eighth place. Nine for Harrison. Cosby Alfie Davidson around the top ten. What a win that kid has come on full in the second offer this campaign pilots on of the mini g. p. fifty as the final vase. All the season mini g. p. fifties and really has come into his own is key. Joel suggest that I'm a woman for vita really grown in stature over the last few race meetings. Another great victory throughout to the tiny starting with the starts, of course, really looked tools, the line. It was a great start from lionhead coke and Ryan has once again doing a fantastic job, get into the lead of the race. Wow, it's pretty good for say, battle very hard to try and get into Laden, defended it with everything that he could really want to have that race victory on. So winner ahead of just Bannister only Walker than in third place de lamelo manual Brinton with the forest is not in fifth place, his coke pain cook Crosby Davidson, not final top ten for them of the season. Thomas Gomez Mason Johnson house, McKay Lucas Brown bench only fifteen coming soul. I'm Taylor Stewart, Campbell roundout s- the seventeen strong order. And as you can see a few more guests can join. Every hiring the guests established as you say, Kiko Charles, I think we all know who this young man is by this point. Hello Sullivan Mounsey. Hi guys. So how is your race meeting on. I spend amazing just come in here to fab. I just wanted to come and say, thank you so much for commentating this year. Thank you very much, but you've been providing the great racing we've been talking about. So really we need to thank you. I'm raid because if it wasn't for my mom and dad and my sponsors, I done it without them very, very true. Forget that bit. Well, big, very big thing. He's hold of the parents because the amount of effort time I put in so we can all go racing very quickly Inigo then to the starts of the Xtreme two hundred, we will come out to yourself and don't you will you can come and join us in the combs you bought so ons about this race with so charleena's bits and Richard Williams that she fun very with the grades, Brandon Powell, a Martin Glossop are unavo- to any at tufted Felix hand, Harvey climate, and then it's Armstrong ice bonds and joshing nave out the top ten with Cowan Wybrow just what Louis Alex fella. And then Blake told me, Jaime king. I'm Blake. On is the full grits and now to get racing, we look towards the green flag then as twelve laps, we have in store for the fine on exchange two hundred of the season. This is going to be I real powerhouse live on multiple radio on the co, five racing websites and on social media. We are underway with the extreme hundreds into Taiwan for the first time as a good stop by charleena's bits. He couldn't really put anything else. Rich Williams in second place at the moment is ain't make day ways. Three turns two and three for the first time out of twelve Brennan pay will. They will definitely want to go out with good results so far holding on roundabout full place out the moments. He's in fourth, he was forties. Now, faith often comes to insert by small and loss of now. He will be looking to try and get back on that po- Jim Williams giving chase down the first right, the die. We John Nesbitt rich rich times Williams went down, so we'll do the same again today. I do not know, but across the line, let's take him sue for the first time. Charlie, that's been aged third by so for the line to meet online gloss over his any. A tough to dishonor tips into Tomas o. and the toughen has got third place, Martin Glossop, fourth, Brandon Powell. The yellow Powell is in fifth place, six place as care Armstrong. Someone's gone. The show cut route there at well, not really its own one. They took the shortcut up country position. It looks as the problem with the fight, but Reuter is okay. All that storage is his pride, but talking to prod product fat, brilliant results this weekend, especially for you, Johnny yard, a great win in junior Elsie, full early fail. Is because I heard a lo- bikes behind me. I'm good. How does it fail in the icy Baltic rose with partly when Mason as well in the trumps not gone your weight, but you know, it's been a good year for race wins. McCullough Reginald immaterial, no way back home. I want to know what attempted chip because in the rookies Owen to shine Kerner school chat in pros, broke my arm and they Sierra, we'll call to recall annoying the hopefully next year I can win the championship. You'll be back as fighting fitter than ever note the keep everything all the bones and all the right places. Just coming to the end of this lap head charleena's a stilling rich time. Sullivan news in genealogy, full chilling race union, Johnny, gone on the last lap. Trying to keep up with. Johnny. My bike started to slow down Qassam reason. Not exactly sure. Vic celebration was in coming out of the corners botches it would normally. So just to try and keep up the Johnny. I get the sick position, but I'm kinda quite gutted still because if I was if I kept top redraw, if I be Johnny, I will. I, I've row in out c.. That's how stuff goes sometimes rayson as they say what your favorite moment of the year. Good back on inside two thousand eighteen season. What race or what moment would you wanna relive that's quite hog probably. When you said the move of this season when round the outside and Mason game free the that Kuna that invest then at Robert, the first time I got paid Manella see. Lots to choose former. Suppose was you so successful about you? Joanie? What would you choose your number one moment? Mine was the last race when I came I because I've never won liquid go race because I've never really had a with bike. But last year, gee, why I was doing okay on my ankle by I was going to get. I ruled on the last lap last corner, a high side dead ally tip. L. i. tip 'em Bailey. He crashed just off to the line. So I kinda him of crashed off the line and yet that then my quite gift for. Cool, but my best is when I came, I in the liquid just then he's still making good memories even now just back to the racing action, eight laps to go and charleena's base still your race leader ahead of Richard Holmes Williams and Elliott. After in third quite spaced out ready is a little bit about going on between care Armstrong and Brandon peril. Alex Bella is up into some place. Mind glosses still holding a very, very good fourth position now, turning attention to next year lots what you're gonna be doing Sullivan. I wanted to do rookies again this year, but people just get this so light. It's just really hard to keep up. So I had to just go pros this this year. Cynic Shelby doing LC again then I'll be Steinem j. bikes. Fifty bucks. I might few seventy rounds. Kaz Kazama Levin turn into neck. I'm basically I should be at this stage which Casey's. Been writing by petits threes now is quite hog joining what we do for next year. The same as southern sung going to be doing forty on the fifties. So be in defense. The urged you going to finish next year on softened. I'd say me Kazaam tool than you reach your Federal's yet. I can. Correct. Back to the race that should six to go. Charleena's is still your race leader ahead of rich Williams on Elliott. After inferred mice, Martin fourth place at the moment, long scare. Alex someway to narrate vice good result from him. Nine. And then Josh, what Lee intent and then hates. Bonds has been difficult for you guys. This shit doing more than one class because you've got liquid Kohl's the ACA. Echoed. How's it been? It's been easy that does no real at up needed. Kiss I'm quite to annoy action to conduct some people acquire smokers, Johnny. He's so it's really hard. The made to keep up his. He's is event like a bit like Mason say they get more accelerated, immortal speed. So after push after my dad makes me feel like I have to push doubled the hardness to keep up the is that south things goes on in it, may it well me in the future too. So when I be people my way I can try same hardness. The Laura joining. What did I ask you Sullivan Ramadan? Was it actually. We. Losses. Really go to give questions quite easy. Doesn't mean one session says no big rush kind of about the money because next year the need to save some money to get an house. Just yours. You mom and dad aren't going to be living. Me ma-ma was this stuff. I bet you wish Joe nation. W round every night. He never mind. Concert, go three laps to go then all this extreme hundred rice not much left in terms of time on this on this whole series. The sun is setting on fire engines in the nineteen charleena's still lead in very, very well ahead of rich times Williams. It's been difficult weather. This weekend. We preferred Wetzel dry because we know you go well in the wet Sullivan. The dry, which are that out. I done the wet. Is is really groupie groupie what s loopy. Because last year I remember I every time I went through, I went through one of the coolness. I've crash six times and there was a lapse in the qualifying. So I knew I have my hats, take it easy. This grit circus number being the wet in dry goods is probably my favorite second. The dry, but in the way is procedure because that was the best ever. You did very well at any with proper monsoon over that WalMart, you Johnny dry. Is that because I'm ready slow on the to another big people. They find it easier because the hang on. The the read Lord. Get the win in the west. So yeah, solo all isn't it. You'll both doing well in the draw. You're both very successful. We're on the last half charleena's bit. Just coming down into turn seven, four. The final time. This has been a fantastic year four charleena's up towards turn nine. He comes, he'll skirts on the power. Now down towards turn, ten wheeling all the way. Charleena's bay has done again, another wind family checkered. Flag flies, four spot, super spot. I think that's gonna have to start all him now course the line as Williams. He takes second base Nellie after the hard earned and well-deserved Martin Glossop will be four ahead of random peril way expect to see the Powell across the line soon. No, he doesn't care Armstong on the line from Brandon bell said, I do Brandon mood on a whole loaded good tonight. Care Armstrong in the sauk five. I seen him all year, so good race. Handshake between Armstrong and Powell seven. His weight and Alex Bella is eight, nine, five Claridge ten for Joe shortly and no Ashburn shortly, the free lapse of that writes think's gonna win. The saw does lights and then lots. That's. The Nick Williams things because they were there just a ways on top. Good answer. Johnny. Any of the psychos names. Yeah, McWilliams for. Clever people along Saudis, nicer view will let you get off. You got any event ceremony nights today and give you all your walls out and whatnot. So let you crack on. Thanks for joining our. Yeah, I just wanna say thank you so much for commentating induna mazing trouble my races. No problem. You give us a good action. Johnny. Thank you as well. Thank you doing commentator races problem. Thank you. Very, no worries. You're welcome. Anytime. Time to hide on then the last race of five thousand eighteen coming up in just a moment. The fish upon series to the BS. This is cool fabric, sing. The original and best British championships. Mini bikes, cool fabric saying. This is it. Then the final as of two thousand eighteen. This is the third and final many f- on psycho vase of the weekend. Cool says, we'll start from pole position. Make Williams double as men ahead. This recon stars alongside on the front row of the grid Makelele and Richard Davies on votes to with Adrian m.'s. Simon Evison taking the third row, the grids, some clowns Jason, green streets, John husker Scott jets and Russ Morgan Jude's. Take up the eleven's spot on the grades remain. Get Russ Morgan, always out there. On what he has is good to see. Morgan saw Kelly how technically she's early on in the day, so wasn't able to finish the second race butts. We get ready then this is live coverage of the twenty thousand cool bracing. British minibar championships finalize is now the last Ray two thousand eighteen the many side. 'cause head into two one for the first time out of sakes in what you believe there is? No, there's a problem make Williams. He's going slowly out to turn. Number two is a problem McWilliams. The same as launched you all went wrong in the last race of last year as well. That was our McWilliams. I'm glad I stop cookie. Is your place. Heads back to the product and on into the complex. For the first time, it means Jack Wolters leads this raise. Adrian is the owner, the person to win a race, amiss. Kaseke this season that may well change during the course of this race. They make their way down to wolves the for the finish on for the first time. Mick Williams will not be leading when Jack holds is who leads, oh, hell to play in second place. It's agent ams, not quite as I quit actually is actually Davies. The one marked Parker nominee wise is actually Richard Davies in second place. In a moment. I'm more troubles for the number one. One one. Not as whereas Morgan. You said it don't want nothing. Again. You've done a Jinxiang Charles down where it started earlier today. We, we remounting they know his owning achieve one of the greatest characters in the product PA out front nevermore know that we all right son. Well, it's a shame that full. Wome one of us and we don't deny and other people's tribulations and troubles butts. They get and set about fixing, but the race Passover, the race ladies on Weiner, saying that many psychos too often, I'm afraid butts Turk halters over the line leading the second place. It's Ritchie Davies Makelele looking to violet inside line the vine side at term one couldn't make it through. So Portas Atta Davies lead, then it is Simon Labelson in fifth by Asian in fourth, Jason Greenstreet sick that John husker simul in some clouds adage on Oscar for those of you listening online on trek sought, we have a special guest in the house. Who are you. Hello. My name is Luke Hawkins, ten year old, an for north Yorkshire. Told you from north taught Wagoner. Joe human Nasio yet been confirmed a fifth in the championship in the how's as going for? You been good yet? Yeah, I'm it's been a great year for me. It's been a great year for me seen is the second highest rookie of the, which is. He he goes, yeah. Good. I d ever read. Do you find that good in the wet, or would you prefer to have done it in the drawer. Am I do very like the what. The way your door yesterday fun visit. Good fun. What do you think at attach any came on last year? So we've been three times once last year twice this. She's been contract for you? Actually, my favorite won't and one of my favorite circuits on the calendar us. Good. What sports? These favorite circuit. There is an actually win. It's just how you're doing that we can from Sarka. Good. We know. Always know when you're out, you're always in the top five top six. You've been ready to consistently share what the next steps moving forward. And next year will do see. Juicy, junior, Elsie, faulty elite, and we've also got a valet. In between in which immature and minimal New Mexico. And then we're going over to Holland today. Stop were Dr. You have to learn another language. Double Dutch one taught on the activity, Minneapolis, we'll get back to you. Lou Jack colts. He's leading by nine tenths of a second from mink Lee now on not. I'm not sure how this on you want to be. Very close out at the moment. Just getting past the traffic. He is not done yet. Coming through the final corner they are now, we're gonna stop that pinola Jack holtz's lead in McClay. The gap is up to a second now, but not a second is really too much of on this circuit visiting so quickly running quite deep causes through turn number one. Now leaky say, yeah, you be racing in Hong next year. You all in in south Southall say cool Lincolnshire twins with our part of the world's one, the tussle second so much. But what will of you enjoy about being in the cool paddock? What really attracts you to being here. There is also goo competition in in the. And also, and also also really light fly commission against befriends of looking forward. Coming back and racing them make sure I bet. That's good fun. Where'd you see yourself going? If used to locate a championship taking his time. Take time, would you like to embrace equality? I'm sure every raido wants to emergency fair for basically we'll see where we get our house. Play Ovalles as they say on the last lap Jack call to his lead in McLean still trying. Very, very difficult that's really judge is going to be, I think, is going to be down turn five. Would you ever go? Psychos one day LUKA. I have been Volva to fall. Am I being one Archer. Don't advice well, yet maybe you see in the future, then maybe back and go for her in the last call, really dos. Coupling owners to sunny setting on cool five racing. The British minibreaks jump ship in two thousand eighteen is not going to be Mick Williams win across the line. Jack Coulter's takes the final checkered flag off the air in the Minia onside 'cause ahead of Mickley in second place. Richard Davies should be third. We are waiting to come across long. Richard Davies gets third, massive back from his passenger Asia, EMS. Should be four. We just the way for him to come across the line as fifth-place will Jason Greenstreet hopefully with a passenger. This time he loves his passenger early on in the warm up lap for race to coming down across the line. He is now he's faith. Six Davidson Davidson been oppo. Jim initiate don't forget is not been so the case this week and some clauses e seventy as head of Scott Jerry and that as eight as far as and is a concern from John husky who now comes across the line. And that is a full racing action in two thousand eighteen Kufai fabrics. Two thousand eighteen eighties done. Indus- it. Oh my because we have a huge cave of rod as the door for. Come on. Luca bene- Fleischer thank you for being there. Well, thank thanks. Wants to go. I go on and we'll get you. In other words, you will kill me with. We'll be made Giles time. We all with Owen mellow. This timed on this. Yes. Oh yes. Yes. Both ones earlier. So do apologize for but great to have you back. Great value as well. Yeah, I got a bit held up on the first corner by Harrison, and then a few Lapsley are gone, and it was just mainly about trying to close the gap but must give you some real confidence looking to next year. Yeah, I'm not sure I'm doing next. Yes, still. So what would you like to do? Either the pit bikes free Embiid be the full three or the standard star standard. Okay. Okay. Do you think that'd be good careerstep moving forward? Yeah, I'm fingered help is just putting on a foster by the feel of graduate. You brother dill using good as you know. I would say the same about you from the okay brotherly rivalry. Then what do you think Dylan will do next think you'll be good? Would you know what he's doing next year? Well, he's doing the seventy next year and hopefully he'll do good. Hopefully challenge. The people that will lower down this year and the Trump injure purchase edgy show this weekend. Good. One of my favorite trucks, it's really good truck, bologna, race early. I think he was forced. You didn't really have much to do how did you find them kind of when you've just go get your head down and and the circuit to concentrate on closing the gap as Mosey close the fast times you pulling in? Yeah, that's true. You, you've podium this year. Venenum a couple two podiums been about did I know round except that missed out on to raise cliff. Pigeon? 'cause I crushed end and. Hit Manco that was at time one when it with the tire wall. I think I seem to remember senior upside down, but never mind the all, hey, now will fix up all the bones in place. Dylan. Thanks join as again, did it on. Yeah. Thanks joining us again. Come on those up. Next Jimmy park. Come on. Eating before we stop. So Jimmy park, let's from your perspective or minus why he's ask you if you still eat. Not. Genita- season. You don't seem a few months. You'll forget by that. So so bringing us back through on a great rivalry hit started Kika Giles already. But how has your weekend been? Have you been finding the rest of the season? Good, really? Yeah, it's been a me Stoff the around of a thing. Three. I'm not sure. A thing we do next season. Well, during the whole next Asian, I think west classes are going to be in miniature pay fifty fifty and have enjoyed the race. You've actually been this year. Even joined it then really some good results qualified quite well. You've always been on the fringe. The top ten. Was the Glenn goes, you're a good me in there. Yeah. Yeah. See, I'm all not bad. You give me all these grief. What's the? What, what what did you see self going? Say, like five, ten years. What do you think the plan is to carry on doing this or. Twenty. Want to do Korea, would you wanna do something else's crayon box. ROY box of anything. Anything all star, Joe plot, love football racing. What? What? Kickstart. It was just like watching a video. I don't know. Actually, it was just. I just want to ride nice. Let told how old are you now as well? Got like quite a few years yet to building and become. Not better, but become get more experienced, do more rounds to be a full fixture, jump ship company, not good. That's good. If we got next. That's. Over. Giovanni, thank you. Join. Well, we have cue in. Have to start with up to start charging next time. If we go here Johnson Johnson, they just started tip off in that race, but you're the podium earlier on. So it's been a good day really? Isn't. It got second of rouse. My subsidy find in your in the mini g. p. fifties aren't as it been this year, been challenging, been difficult. They've been really good. What's it? Has it been been fun and challenging. Sometimes we'll spend your favorite round if you could look back in the one moment. Probably this round da show. In October was around at tie Shirley. My was it good or. Yeah, it was. All right. Member teams. But not makes too. Qualified false. Nice. Jovanu tightrope. Take my job of me. Jimmy, how you. Amazing results the what's your plan for next year Mason quickly. You want to do the seventies. And just to seventy. Yeah, maybe the one to five. Okay. That's interest in mice. Nostra view. Hey, you wanna pass over to the next radio. I'm not sure my right now. Hey. Fin it. Right. Okay. So you want to race. Thank you. Thank you. Strikes came from. Really. Good. Have you felt like you've kind of become Rawda since thank you been top five. Top? Six. All all the way through now. So it's been good, really baron race. You've got a brother as well max, who's better you say that you've what? What's your plan for next year? You're going to move up to the pros or fifties on pros, fifties, and pros and what what's made you come into cool Grayson. What's the attraction? So nature terms. True phone. Okay, that's good. Now old I as well. See years left immerse or somebody you want to be. If you could choose lie in say ten years. And I wouldn't try and make too much or. Okay, that's good. People have sit from this Donnie and Scott Reddin. They all come from lots of pedigree, voyeur what you wanna do like next year? Where do you wanna finish the champion? Todd, five, five. Sounds good to me. Finnan. Thank you very much and I'll take off yet and then you can shake my. No. Who's next. But them on you take that Nazi Mark. Fine. And what class you in. I'm going to tell us. And is Trump. I don't include. How's your year been? 'cause you think top five top six oval AC forty crows. Spotted in for the top four. This weekend. I have been busted him for the top three before to pay Glennon goals and can not. News in the fiber overall in the championship, you'll top six. He'll talk six. Oh, how's that been like this weekend? Boy, like confirming good pedigree, good jump ship rosel. Well, it better than I did last year. I was in the top ten last year. So I've done a lot better my ride into blue due out the whole season, and I've come from fourteen place up to four. So it's been a big improvement from this year to next year. Winning races also planned for next year, just carrying on. I'm gonna do the Duni release on the match fifty s. Okay. That's interesting. How good is preparing you and. Is it a good training ground competitive and all that? Yeah. Would you wanna be anywhere else? Like, where do you want to be after? Cool. Jonah goi- like British championships? Yeah, the versus telling Kappen other an on tomato juice pay. Hopefully that's the route you wanna go all the big stars GP broddrick when. By the time you get that you'll be racing against Marcus, hopefully in the same paddock as Marcus, I'd be good. Thanks for your time Ronnie. I'll take that for you. And then I'll say that nice thrive. You nicer y'all to come and joining us. Now, the guest here. Harrison. I was McKay. Right. Okay. How's your year you've been hearing more or less around the thing? I, in fact, if no, if you been doing. Every year now feel what you've come on and improve water. What's your favorite track. I think. Oh, yeah, I love is quite like that was just because it's faster dot the the downhill. Okay. Let's get on call good in the car around that. Dan, less than say, good is a word I wouldn't describe how is how is this she been for? What would be your hall of two thousand eighteen. Last round. I came six. And I think it was a seven. That's not bad, then it's good results. Considering how competitive evidence, what you say something next year. Maybe seventeen fifties early. Some fifty. Or not really. Old as well. You've got quite a few years yet to build in. We always male young you guys are on memoir doing. It's not gonna football round, someone vassal something causing trouble. But what if I saw you as you wanna be in ten years time, I would you. Where would you think to be. Maybe BSP. Burji pay what team if you choose one big team emerge EP two out for what we dream. Honda on the same rights out Marcus directly as good as. Maybe not. So yes, we know that you would've wanted. Title on this morning. Nice boy. Get lynched. Arison lovely to have you here all the best and all that advocate trip home and whatnot. Thank you very much. Right. We'll Jackson back into the fold on this Jackson. Children in various directions. Well, that's been a fascinating I think, is brilliant that we get the vibe is actually coming into our chat with us. Normally over the season when we've had varieties can meet talk to us. We normally being told, you didn't say my name or he said this is. I mean, I is true generally. That's what happens, but it's best if you tell us, but nonetheless it's great to have the young riders in telling us about our business because apartment I wanna say the word, the phrase humanizes them because it calls me all humans, but it's great to get to know the names and the faces behind the names. We say in the country and the voices timid miss while we. Yeah, absolutely. Especially likes of Sullivan. Mounsey. Johnny gardens have been regulars in this comic books all year. Been brilliant company. Of course, I must have thank you to both of them for coming and making our jobs a little bit more different. And you know, not easier, not harder, but it's just nicer. Fresh faces is review. Contracts and website editor sport, radio. That will. Have you, hey, with this, but it's, it's fascinating. Isn't there? So young. I mean, Kiko says he doesn't Moi's doing is I was probably reading a magazine about, he's not as less says. He was only nine or ten years ago for all three of us. So sorry, we weren't going that Cisco again, but I think I was reading a magazine at ten is what were you doing? Oh, well. Something just as simple as mentioned a few times I've, I've been around the block with four wheels with karting and our remember going around these circuits going round all of this experience with a young paddock. And it was such an exciting experience for a lot of drivers and to see it all here with new generation with the next young kids coming through, and it's great to see that grassroots motorsports still alive, still kicking. And as ky-ko's mentioned so much this weekend, the success rate of Kufa raising go into SP and other types of racing. It's such a phenomenal. Story to hear because it just shows how much after you in the work and dedication, how much these riders can really get far in their career. It's not just as well. It's the fact of how connected we are to the picture gypsum way. The riders want to be, you know, it's not hard work for them to get there. It's not what it is hard, what, but it's not coming out for completely different system having to move border eight. We now have implies the structure in place in this country to to produce onto the national and world levels we have already is eight Donnie. Ken Scott read in onto the level. You've got. Luke mossy the right. I've been here done that and now in British soup, which he pain, it's just an amazing feeling instead of having something that so disconnected not very integrated, it's hard work. It makes everyone's life easy, and it really brings it back to the coal facts of do some of you want to do as a kid. If you can do if you can afford to do it, do it and see where it takes for the lights of Brad device, giving him a whole career now and what I love about co founded how that works. It is the the young kids can actually race against these older races. I know we have the senior motocross, but to have the ability to race against people, many as older than self with many years, more experience and to get that level of knowledge, I think is always valuable. I talk about my time in car racing, but I've always valued at about, say the Formula Ford championships, where the young drivers can come in and compete against experienced drivers and heya with the coup fab raising. It's just the same with the mix up with the mix of experience on the grass, ROY. Level three more. Well, you know, what is the end? The two thousand eighteen? I'm very sad because you have some fantastic action. Go one more guest. You wanna come in. No, we're being. A day in the headlights death. So maybe not. But it's been fantastic to have to have everyone coming in talking to us because eighth grade and I want to take just a few moments to they massively big thank you to all of the marshalls, all of the medics, all of the race organizers. And the parents, of course, over the course of the season because simply without without them without their hard work going through tireless hours, we've had very long days, Eric call family days in the horrible wet conditions say, gee, why red lodge when we had the blistering heat followed by the hollow boo vein more or less. At the same time, we've had truly missed conditions over the course of the season just wanted, say, a big, thank you to all of you because of the hard work we could simply could not go motoracing guy. So a really big. Thank you, a big. Thank you cost to the case family on race control again for all of the hard work as well because we can. We can organize meeting without those guys and goes, it takes a lot to do all the time. 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The Curtain Call, Part 2: Will the Steelers yell Wolverine! in the 2021 NFL Draft?

Behind the Steel Curtain

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The Curtain Call, Part 2: Will the Steelers yell Wolverine! in the 2021 NFL Draft?

"Okay picture this you turn off your tv you want to kick back relax and completely over analyze what you just watched we made galaxy brains just for you. Hi dave schilling. And i'm joan array. What are the host of galaxy brains. Paulie guns brand. New podcast launching thursday april twenty second followed galaxy brand apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app to get new episodes in your ear but every week that's unit galaxy brains we're moving. Tvn overthinking collide. Pittsburgh steeler fans. It is time for the second half of the curtain. Call podcast once again. My name is michael back. Joined as always with jeffrey benedict. Jeffrey how you tonight. We're talking about michigan prospects Kind of in your wheelhouse How you feel about everything i just. I don't know to tell I really want the steelers to pick up mason. He is easy. Exact kind of a player. The steeler fans would absolutely love when he touches the ball he becomes a human missile. I e e his first few steps have such power speed and he just crashes and i mean literally crashes into the line like a truck and just takes people out he is. He is incredible Dues just he plays football because he wants to have people you know. The james harrison is a full back kind of thing. I took roosevelt next. Turn him into fullback but he wasn't the same this. This guy is the dude who wants to hit people as hard as he possibly can and like take their soul. Is that kind of a player. and i would love him on the steelers. I would absolutely love him. He's also fantastic. Special teams player So people who who sit there and look at derek like why is he on the roster while you could pick up ben mason seventh round pick undrafted free agent possibly and and make that you that replacement he would be incredible. I'd love to have him on the team. There might. oh that was a pretty big pretty big cutoff. Ariba can hear me. I can hear you sorry about that. A that was weird but the big news of the day we can get into that. Now vince williams is signing with the pittsburgh steelers. After release a month ago. All sudden vince williams finds himself back in the center of the steelers defense. What are your initial thoughts on that. Jeffrey i'm surprised i was a little surprised but the steelers the steelers had opened that spot. That that know stuffer aggressive back i was really looking for. I know you to looking forward to getting a younger. More athletic version of events williams someone who could be more attacking be also bring more athletic system But this really this kind of locks down there linebacker. They got four linebackers now again and the good news. The way the reason. I think it can work is when robert spelane his talk. He talked about how the steelers told him to work on his coverage work on his What they call which is like a green dog blitz. When you're a man and your guy stays in blocks you turn into a blitzer to keep the numbers advantage for the blitz which is where he was good last year and that's nickel that's nickel defense skillset not base package skillset so the way the now. Let's like you're gonna devon bush on the field every play in three four. Look she put in vents williams in nickel. Looks you put in roberts So we may not see a linebacker coming coming in pittsburgh this year. now something. I lied. Chad taught talking about. But i also ask you on this devon bush typically he would cover for mike. Hilton orbits williams. And it's something you talked about in prior episodes and something that we can discuss that if they brought someone that was a little bit more flooding devin bush could be a little more free to do his thing. Now eventually is coming back and devin. Bush has to continue to of cover him in his weaknesses in that coverage game. You think that might take away from devon bush Having a breakout year of sorts in twenty twenty one or is just business as usual. I'd give you just look at stats that that would impact evan bush But on film. I said before twenty twenty with such a better season than twenty one thousand nine hundred seven bushes. He was such a better player even though his stats absolutely vanished like they just dropped off a cliff but he was a better player and the defense was better for it. This this vince is gonna be interesting. It'll be interesting to see how this affects What the steelers do with that slot cornerback. Because now i'm saying that but at the same time i'm going to tell you i don't think williams plays a nickel anymore. I think he is a base package. Linebacker robert splaine takes over those nickel responsibilities. So i don't think of on the fly. Your but i don't really think you'll see much difference. I mean two thousand nineteen it was. It was bush playing with williams like he. He didn't play with marc maron. So it it still vince. Williams devon bush And the steelers can cover for one liability in the passing game at linebacker. They do that really well with either their savings either minka or terrell to a great job of helping those linebackers. It'll work i. I'm kinda. I'm kinda torn because i love williams as as a player as a person in the room as a leader in the locker absolutely love him and at the same time like you. You'd like to see someone younger more athletic. Take that role to me. I kinda see it as team trying to fill some holes just because this draft. There's still a bunch of positions that are going gonna fill some primary backup. Spots has become a loaded up the talent kind of adding another body into the mix is something that is something that kinda lets them be a little bit more free when we come to the draft but speaking of that draft is vince williams. Resigning completely eliminate the the opportunity for them to be drafting. Someone at all could they signed someone. is this linebacker. Room can lockdown. Now i think it. I think it really is especially for early rounds. You could see. I think someone someone the third or fourth round you could see them pick up somebody that they can sit there and say you know give them give them a give them a year or two events williams. Give him some time behind devon boston and let them develop a but i think it eliminates kind of going around one i i know i know he's been fans of saving collins tick if you pick up zaven collins you know. Where are you splitting snaps. Roberson delaying deserves time on the field. You have to play. Vince is not gonna come back and do nothing so for me. Yeah i i think it really does change that. Which isn't a bad thing Because we still need to center. We still need a running back. There's just nobody there. Yeah jeeze before we get to that one. Last with the inside linebackers. Every williams the he has his little cryptic post changing his photos to the steelers logo again. Could they add. Could they bring avery williamson back in the fold. Just have just run for five deep inside linebacker and just have a big rotation to me. I think it might be possible because we got seventeen games. Now just having. There's there's nothing wrong with having depth. If it's a cheap deal dude you still think it's possible or do you think that that cryptic tweet might have been about iraq. Cryptic instagram posts should say is about something unrelated to williamson resigning with the steelers. I don't see how you would think william signing like he did that. Then vince williams signed so. I don't know if that was a moment. The steelers reached out to both. And we're like look. This is what we're offering. We'll see we'll offer both these guys achieve contract and if they bite or something. I don't know they went that route. I i can't imagine every williamson coming here. I mean he just came off yet a big contract. He played a lot of snaps and then he kinda fell out of favor as the defense changed in new york comes to pittsburgh plays in a gap and really not knowing the defense at all really came in and played with and they had to change the linebacker roles entirely just because he doesn't know what he's doing here he was joined in the middle of the season is to get him back and have that chance of learning season. What about a good move. I just don't know if he would be willing to sign for the kind of money that is going to be available with the steelers having three guys the three known commodities. You're not gonna they're not gonna pay number four in the fourth guy is not going to get paid much money and you're not gonna get much promise of snaps either devin. Bush is going to play one hundred percent of the snaps. If he's there he's going to play every single snap that he can I don't i don't see avery williamson making sense. I don't see making sense ravens williamson to sign here unless they're really does just know market at all and he's willing to sign a veteran minimum deal and perhaps out might be exactly what it comes down to. But i guess the other news of today and kind of completely overshadowed by of into william signing Josh dobbs quarterback is back for year number. Five with the pittsburgh steelers. What do you think of a the the readmission of josh dobbs With the black and goal. I like it. I think it really for people who want a quarterback hauling out the best news. I think i think it's more than anything. Vote of confidence in the guys they have. You wanna fourth quarterback for camp and josh dobbs in my opinion is the right kind of quarterback to push a dwayne haskins. He's not going to match. Dwayne haskins talent with the questions on dwayne haskins. Aren't does he have talent questions are you know. Where's his head in the game. What's his Level what's he like in the locker room. You know you're talking leadership and you're talking. You know the love of the game sitting in the film room watching the film breaking stuff down understanding the offense all these things. Those are josh dobbs strengths. Just odd isn't the greatest passer but he does that to the point that he's you know a guy. Ben rothlisberger likes because he can rely on him so to me. He's an insurance policy. Should dwayne haskins causing any problems and they have to get rid of. It has to cut ties with him. And he's also the kind of guy to plush dwayne haskins in the in the film room kind of be that guy who's like you know try and keep up your kid like let's go. It's it's time for you to learn this. It's time for you really. It's it's your what third season you know. You need to have this stuff down So i think josh dobbs is actually the perfect addition to push him and honestly if he sticks around. He's someone bent likes having around. That's not that's not a bad thing. Yeah right now. The number two migo on that team. He doesn't go to anyone Before he stops and talks with josh dobbs on the sideline regardless of him having a helmet. So that is something Something to keep an eye on it. I think ben does Wait in that room. But like if dwayne haskins shines he shows off his arm and what he's able to do in college i don't think They could deny him a spot. But when it comes as quarterback position in general and of course the draft is what two weeks or a week to week. Tomorrow is that right tweaks tomorrow. I think two weeks tomorrow that makes more sense. But with the with with dobbs being signed does that mean the steelers are unlikely to take or even at it any quarterback at all when it comes to the draft undrafted free agency. I think so. I really think it does. But that's that's based on my opinion that the steelers are all in on ben rothlisberger and secondarily. They really like mason rudolph which we hear from the team. We hear from insiders from the team. They're set with those. Two dwayne haskins was number. Three i think dobbs is either that insurance policy against haskins or he's just there to push him and be a key. Be the number four camp guy. I don't the only way. I could see the steelers. Drafting a quarterback is if they have already soured on haskins. If they've already seen something and they say well you know what that's this guy is going to be a guy. We wanna keep around that kind of situation than i could then. I could definitely see them. Drafting a quarterback and then cutting ties with dwayne haskins. But they're not gonna they're not gonna enter camps and offseason activities five quarterbacks and it should also be mentioned that dwayne haskins does have practice squad eligibility of course he could be scooped up by any team if if he's placed on the practice squad but any team could have scooped him up before he signed that to deal with the steelers. So of course. That's something else to watch. You might be a little bit easier to cut him and just have all the guys in the locker carried over to the season the other news the weeks since we last chatted. Jeffrey james conner became an arizona cardinal. Of course the steelers running game is something. This organizations talked about improving in a few different options of course The second of course said that this team isn't going to finish thirty second in the league when it comes to running the ball ever again. James conner has gone. What are your initial reactions on that. And does this Is this kind of telling that the steelers were willing to bring him back on such a cheap deal. First of all from connor side. I actually think arizona's a great place for him to end up They've got a running quarterback they've got you know obviously a great receiver the top in the league. Outside and yonder hopkins. That's an offense. Offers similar kind of threat in different areas like the two thousand eighteen steelers did were tees wanted to defend each play knowing. Connor wasn't the guy you really had to worry about. You had to worry about antonio brown then you had to worry about. Juju smith schuster. Yeah the quarterback back there who could throw to the tight ends like defending the run. Was it something you could easily do. you can just just know. Load the box with players and defend the run like they couldn't two thousand nineteen and then they. They started doing kind a little bit more in two thousand twenty so it's a great place connor when he has a little more space is he's great when he is not a high traffic runner guy. He's not a guy who runs through congested. Run lanes and finds his. Here's a guy who likes to make big shark jump cuts in an open space and guys and that's where he is at his best. That's where he gets his long runs that makes his negatives that he takes money. He's jumping around the backfield and gets tackled for a loss. You know it evens out over the game. When he's congested runs those negative runs are more hurtful and he doesn't get the longer run. So it's great. Fit for james conner fabulous place for him to go and i could really see him rejuvenate his career. Bit there for the steelers side. I think it says a lot. The steelers loved. James conner like everything they said. Locker all the players in the locker room. All the coaches. Everyone loved james conner. The person they didn't want james conner the football player at all like that's that's incredible to me So mentioned the chat about james saxon being there. now this could have been foretold this folk Not that kind of running back. He's not looking for that kind of back But they're really they don't want and that is. That is interesting considering you think back over the years. James conner is one of the best backs. Then that canada's ever coached he's he's one of the guys had some of the most success of any of matt canada's running backs with james conner and letting him walk almost gotha. I think that definitely speaks volumes and really to me all these kind of moves or kind of kind of leading into the draft at. I think something were probably pretty likely to hear. Roger goodell walking up to the podium. Going with the twenty four th pick the pittsburgh steelers select running back dot dot dot is that is that something You're putting stock in these days. Jeffrey yeah really. Yeah we don't have a running back like we we've got you know four three four number two guys number three is. We got depth with have any stars. So you've gotta get started you've got to get a guy to carry the load from day one That's really. I have not said of the steelers taking running back in round one but that is looking more and more like something they may. They may be just planning to do to me. What became worrisome. Is james. Conner was insurance policy. If one of the the guy they wanted in the first round wasn't there or if they didn't see the value of running back in the first round and then i'll all the top guys were gone by fifty five. They could always just work their way back. James conner have a fine running back. Just someone who can get the job done for another year when he's healthy now. The james conner is gone now. I'm thinking well. The steelers were kind of painted themselves into a corner. A saints at eighteen. The miami dolphins take she harris and heck the new york jets fall in love with travesty. Tin nelson the steelers have to panic and take devante williams. Twenty four th or are the that level of handcuffed like what are your thoughts on this. Do they have to take greg twenty four because it seems like there's no other option i don't think it is someone falls. I think you'll still see like let's say a darris off l. And you had like it. Wouldn't matter like who who's there that you would take over him I think there are those players situations. Steelers aren't gonna panic and pick in the first round. I hope i think drafting. Like i honestly think drafting a running back in the first round is like drafting already earns in the first round. It's that kind of move is just. It's not the move. It isn't the move but let's let's say something does drop and they skip running back in the first round and then they come to the second round and the and the names are gone. The real guys are gone. And you're looking at dewey. Dewey draft a third or fourth round running back in the second round or we risk not getting not getting one of the names at all and any you know grabbed going into the season with benny. Snell is your best running back. That's not a good situation. I'm gonna go back to to something been saying for a long time in the run game. It's scheme first offense of line. Second running back third. So if if you have to pick between a running back at a really good starting center. You're taking the center if you are picking between a running back and position where that position really matters. More than running back does running back as minnesota value in the nfl Do you take the running back. No you don't if you have to roll into the season with ballots in mcfarland and snell and edmonds. I mean that's you have to do that. You don't reach please. Don't reach steelers That's where it gets really tough. Especially now that i'm thinking back to Are earning the seconds year ending press conference. He said the steelers would be would be adding a new quarterback to this team. Also the new quarterback josh dobbs the guy that was there but he just didn't have a contract he said the steelers weren't gonna have the thirty second ranked running attack now there's no free agent options available for propel cow bax nor the handcuffed into reaching on someone or could they get screwed out of drafting running back at all. What do you. What do you make of all this Is there any worry that the steelers organization might have kind of gambled on some positions Still being there and kind of fallen flat on their face or is there still some sort of a plan. I think the biggest takeaway i have from it is again. Dan rooney was the greatest owner in sports history. Possibly all sports definitely in the nfl art. The second isn't that guy right and size. I mean he's not good as i mean. He can't be a good owner. But dan rooney say things like that dinner. He wasn't a guy who would be like. You know we're going to add a name to that. We're gonna a quarterback to the room and we're gonna we're gonna focus on running the ball and we're never going to be that bad again. This is the dan rea would never say. Because you can't guarantee that you're going to add a name no matter how stupid against the dan snyder thing. It'd be like we need a quarterback no matter who it is. I don't care if they stink. Sign of get a name. Just throw money at him. Like you're you're not gonna do that stuff you can't control all the rest of the stuff around you. You just have to make the best of it you every year so for me. The the first thing is art rooney needs to learn things not to say. Just don't say those things because then steeler fan look in there like you said we're gonna prove this you so we were gonna fix this fixed. You do anything like what's what's going on with this franchise and that's that's needless. That's needless the steelers need to approach. This would make the best of a season where the salary cap is just stupid. The free agency is bizarre because of it and teams are in these situations teams are in situations where they just have holes on the roster that they may not be able to fill. That's just how it is. Now when we get to the twenty fourth overall pick Let's just put a hypothetical there. The top three tackles gone. Dare saw slater sewell. They're gone l. Everyone else is still available. The top centers are still available and all the running backs are still there. Let's just say jeremiah Core moore's they're zaven collins there. Who's that. who's the picket. Are they going running back the the situation. They're looking at no. I don't think go running back there. I don't think you do If there's a really really good cornerbacks there. That's that's that's a possibility. That's a strong possibility for the steelers By i don't see running back at the top centers are there. That's that's tough to pass on. That's really tough to pass on center or you know a player bigger impact. Yeah it's it's kind of. It's kind of an interesting spot to find this team in right now but when it comes to the rest of free agency before the draft the next two weeks of course the steelers kind of surprised by making a couple moves today. Could they fill out the rest of the roster By making a couple more free agent moves honestly. Today's moves to me. I feel like they're not done yet. We could see some week. We could see a few movies working right now. They're really filling those depth spots which So i i would be surprised if you see a a veteran edge player outside linebacker come in. I'm not sold in caches marsh as as a potential number three guy. And that's if you don't find someone in the draft catches marsh. Your number three outside linebacker so i could see that position Tight end. obviously we can still use his number two tight end. There's some physicians out there. That the steelers could really look at it and say. Hey we'll bring in. This guy is about an and can be a backup all right so we are at the top of our show here jeffries or anything you want to plug or any other closing thoughts you want to get out before we hang up the line. Of yeah dave snowfield nigh Vertex hit today with a killing badge. Find out more about him He he's he's he's a guy he's another guy and all we cover what he brings the team. What what kind of skill set he brings. I've got an ongoing series with Heaven smith about different where we talk about How different offensive players positions fit. The steelers offense. Quarterbacks came out this week. We're working on Offensive line for next week. So look forward to that. Awesome now before we get out. I also want to remind you that buying steel curtain. We have a ton of great content coming out in anticipation of draft end on draft. Day itself all three days of the draft. There's gonna be a ton of podcast what we're going. We're going to be doing some stuff alive we're going to be doing. Roundtables review mocked grass over the coming weeks. I'm telling you it's going to be an exciting time over on the website and here on the podcast platform to make sure. You're checking out the steel curtain. Make sure you fallen out. All the social media pages you can find out by searching behind the steel curtain or bt steel curtain b will pop up verified on twitter and facebook so should be a fairly fairly easy to To come across those pages but as we get to the end here. I just want to thank each. And every one of you for tuning in with the jeffrey and myself and we will catch you guys next week.

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Bye Week Lucky Sports Parents

Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast

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Bye Week Lucky Sports Parents

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcasts. And podcast one. He is is currently the head football coach of the University of Michigan Wolverines and a former player. His Dad and brother are also former players and coaches. But there's more to them than just I put ball. It's time to talk about attacking life each day with an enthusiasm unknown demand kind. This is attack each day. The harbaugh's podcast. Ask with Jim Harbaugh. Hello everybody and welcome to another edition of attack each day the Harbaugh's podcast a reminder. You can subscribe to us on Apple podcast you can listen to the podcast. One Orion podcast one dot com and please follow us and contact us on twitter at a podcast or using Hashtag. Jack talk this week by week for the Michigan. Football team and the coaches are out on the road recruiting so we thought we would go back and listen to three conversations. We had our lucky sports parents feature hearing from the parents of three recurrent freshman on the Michigan. Football team will hear from the parents of Freshman Safety Dax and hill who is having quite the impact as a true freshman on defense. We will hear from Ben Hall data running back exact Charbonnet who is leading the Wolverines in rushing and we will also hear from Claude Johnson data receiver Cornelius Johnson who was also contributing a little bit this season for the maize and blue. So let's get started. Here's our conversation with Derek Hill. The parents of DAX Tannehill Botha justice index fast fast winded. What size the families that come from Derek? Well I'll let us now tell people. This is my claim to fame in the the ninth grade I could dunk a basketball and I'm just about five seven and so I grew up athletically with my brother. My brother and I like the fastest. Two in the top three in Junior high elementary and middle school so we would always always my brother and I everytime I got a new pair of tennis shoes. Hey I think beach but he would always click me just a little bit so very competitive as has brothers. And so t letter about her half lizard crowd so okay now I I think when I my mother married a an Okie so I'm a I'm a pretty much a yankees clash because I'm from the East Coast and when we moved here I of course was not knowing anyone so I thought well the only way to to Pretty much Get the mix and make friends get into sports. And so I was in gymnastics the nasty and track and here in Tulsa at the back in the day they used to have within the public school system competition among among the schools and such and so Pretty much that's where the the light came on for one year young lady in Elementary School get diffused a huge trophy as athletic Woman Athletic Woman of the year. Now live well ducks. I can get back I said okay. I'LL MIT that. And sure enough. The the next year coming out of elementary school going way back I achieve that that goal and so then going into a high school I wind up getting into track one not in high school but income in junior high Really getting involved there but then in time I just focused on basketball but yeah I like track with I one of my passions. It didn't pursue it much when I went into Got To burger thirteen High School but I think I got the leg linked to. It'd probably either one of them. Boys it just is. What do you run a four four? Yeah four four four flat. That's right fastest fastest running back in the draft. Yeah but that's new yeah. PM and of course our genes. I guess and then the Dan Proactive facility out in California and train. So what's what's the distance in age. Wise between between the two boys three years three years four years now did DAX kind of hanging around the older a group the his older brother and run with them and kind of have challenge to stay up with his group or did he go ahead. I was GONNA say or did he. Kind of his own little group that he He ran with why he hung out with Justice Group and when you mentioned earlier when when he was smaller I probably like fifth. Sixth grade would be. I would justice in his friends out in the street. They were throw balls and he pretty much you get out through. All the eighth graders on the street and so he was always hanging out with brothers friends friends and also he was the kind of kid shield that he had his own mindset and so sometimes we can have a group of six six or seven kids out playing basketball plan football. He'll just come in the house and you sit down and I'm like hey what's going on back. He's like I'm finish my my win and he got all your friends. I don't WanNa play things we will know you go out there. All people came to wait. which again I don't want to do it so sometimes? Yeah and but the thing was in basketball to Justice again very competitive Dak skinless count. He will look the flow but he didn't like it and insult. You know if you heard the door slam us is coming. He got either the game of basketball. Then you started here crying and so we heard there for a couple of years and then by the time he turned thirteen to fourteen. Here crying excited I he just as I can beat him that it sounds like this. This is Jack again. John is fifteen months older than Jim saw. Aw Right we saw that same same situation in our family. John had his group and Jim was kind of tagging along and get his nose bloodied one one day and come home and then go back out and get it bloodied again and pretty soon. You know he was. He was competing at that level. And I think that was was very important in In his development and how it worked out for him yeah definitely by the time our are strong so and what's tax doing this spring. What what is doing the spraying as he? He's not running track this year. Right he's We did a South Orange junior years. Is He participated in or working out. What's a what's a spring look like? Yeah for the Spring He. He decided he wasn't. We're going to run track. And so he he trains with on his on and then also he does some training with a trainer here locally and so he goes to the gym him and takes what himself to develop on workouts. And he'll just do that so he's trying to stay in shape go awaits and also you guys Workout so that's what he's been focused on and he watches a lot of this nice whistle. This is his graduation date. Sixteen okay terrific. Well there's a new role and I haven't talked to a couple of months but at the since we recruited Paxton. There's a new rule in all of college football where is soon as the youngster graduates from high school cool. They're allowed to come to campus now and we're allowed to put them in the dormitory and and he'd have a place to stay and he can. He can work out here once. Once the discretionary periods over yes so from June like June July first when summer school starts. So there's US there's always. He's been that gap between the time that the guys graduate and before summer school starts for Michigan that kind out of a limbo period but now they can come up and and still have a place to stay living in the dorms. Start working with the team like for example screwed you just rule goes all the way back to when I was in high school when I graduated from High School Game Dan Arbor and got a job with John. Falk in the in the equipment room stayed lived at Tomah Polyclinics House and would come get my workouts in and things like that before before school started actually in the fall because they didn't even have have summer school back then but so. That's say if you heard that yet have you are coaches. Let you know that that that he'll have a place to stay in the dormitories as soon as he's once he graduates June first Well Let us know. It was either June first of June fifteen so he. That's the days that we knew and I know we had conversation when during the visit you know the home visit that was that was that potential opportunity and he can come up early and hang. Hang out and get familiar and all so I even you know. Oh June fifteenth. Good changes is starting thinking with them. Now it's okay graduations around the corner with his future teammates and so he's June June. The first I'm good so you bet I mean if I mean if you're saying in between that window of when he graduates and before June June the first I I like the lobby just for a second hand like to lobby for that June first. Because it's it's really starting to sink in to me too that the DAX Lord of the system and getting up here a little bit early really really would help. Because it's that he's going to be playing playing very early in his career. Here at the University of Michigan can't wait for them to come up. It's Matt arm when Yeah. When you texted me the fifteenth okay? Mark on the fifteenth and last week next to me. The first and I haven't gotten to yet I was. You talked to your mom about the first yet and he said yes so I was waiting to get back with you especially to this guy until we got on the podcast here so that way we can get it on record that he can come June first so that sounds like he is going to be making this decision. I yeah yeah so we are when when he told the team but they got enough time to do this and that get things in order and I was like well Jackson you sir and so. After a couple of days I knew switched with on June. I wasn't surprised with that. Let me ask you minister question on draft day we got this draft day coming Ominami. Where where were you folks be and what will be going through your mind? When that's all taken place allows a good question we will be here ear here in Tulsa at the house and we will Was that AH here at the house was family and friends. And so we'll be watching just say anticipating and I guess it was going through our minds right now now is just at this point. Just got you know. It's been a long ride. Just done a great job and he's representative stuff well and so we're just supporting Freddie and whatever team knees with and so someone asked me recently. what's your fade. You give that a lot and your thought. is the Ravens Insect Ravens Ravens. Nita running back. Well I'll say hey they asked my favorite NFL team. I say whatever team. He's perfect I just want to share a story with you. When Jim was drafted he came out in one thousand nine hundred eighty six and he was at our house? I was coaching it western Michigan at the time and we were watching the draft on television. It was earlier in the day for a member and Jim had the chicken pox right seven. He he had the chickenpox. It looked like somebody hit him in the face with a shotgun on what he was. He was drafted in the twenty to twenty six pick in the first round by the Chicago bears so they called him up and told him they had a ticket for him to come to Chicago. And you can't go to Chicago looking like that. I mean you can't so jim pick up the story. Yes yes I went I did. I went They talked me into common. So I went over there and It's come meet. Meet the coaches and coach did can some of the other Mr mccaskey and Bill Tobin and then then Ken Valda Sherry. So I gotta go you. You gotta go onto these news program. You gotta go down to the new station and so I did. I went to with like three different news stations and they did a press conference or whatever and I was like I I mean I really look bad I got a letter I got a letter came through the Chicago bears. That person that was really felt felt very bad for me and very very sorry for they'd seen me on the television and the the acne that I had that's a record and so that's how my start talking about with the chicken. Pots lost like fifteen or twenty. Remember coach Dick Looking at me like onto my talk. They loaded with makeup. Then you got in. There was the hot lights and the makeup MS astor so the makeup was melting over your face and the and the march or out there. My wife Jackie. Jackie was just just so fevers of Tom. So we hope for better things. Yeah for your family. I'll take in the pool that up on Friday the best part of the day though when I got drafted was my dad. Jack sitting right here did a cartwheel. First Time I'd ever see I do a car wheel last time I remember seeing the performance. No there will be no good time. I'll do a car will do a backflip. Yeah it's definitely one of those days though that It's a signature day. You remember where you are what you were doing what was going on. And everybody's lives and where you were that exact moment when when you heard your name that that's for sure until they throw dirt over the top they remember that whatever that day so that that's that for us is just this past against twelve thirteen months It's you know when you have. They have one son going through a process. I said that's probably In itself can be a little overwhelming. But then when you have to at the same any time and then we're like wow from the NC double aid to the NFL. I say we got it both. And so t and I was just trying to figure route yesterday where we can actually get some rest rely okay. minicamp province starts the first week of May. Okay maybe we can rest in June. Now do something because after that we had the transit and those those are lucky sports parents. Those those are lucky. Sports players problems. McCaffrey's are the only one pop into my head right now that they have the same thing that the NFL with the Carolina Panthers and filling here and sometimes they they'll they'll go like one parent Goethe Carolina and the other parent will come here here and then they switch they have a whole. They've a whole thing going now. They have another son that's going to be going to Nebraska. So those are lucky sports pairs problems right there. Thank you and Derek such a bright future ahead for DAX and the wolverines. So you've all probably heard of shy nola destroy based design brand known for luxury timepieces. Maybe you go down main street in the store. They have unbelievable watches coach. Apparently they've got a brand new watch that matches his everything in our wardrobe the Wolverine Detroit. So the I call it the Wolverine. It's beautiful watch. It's got the the maze face and and So you only watch where the the SHY NOLA company has has been my favorite Tom. Carsodo data has been honorary captain here for US multiple occasions. And he's a he's a dear friend and he has done an amazing job with at this company. He's an he's an even better friend and I'm GONNA say that Semi Tom Tom. He always gives me a ten percent discount. I bought all of our coaches Shinawatra. A few years ago I bought your watch. That was a while ago dead but that was what fifteen. I can't get you. It's time for you to get into by Jacquard but it is a beautiful time piece as you mentioned the maze phase with the blue detail at the the numbers and the second marks has got the blue watchband it is well built. It holds up through tailgates victory parties and based on everything. We've heard it holds up through monsoons as well. It holds up through the weather holds up of course for tailgates and Game Day. It is a beautiful time. You can find that at the Shinola and Arthur location you can go online to shy nola dot com but her there are in demand especially this time of year to this beautiful time data mainstreet. We got the Chanel Astore right on Main Street and she always a great. It's a great watch company but they also do bags. They also also do bikes bicycles so leather leather leather goods. So it's just more than watch company. Tom Car Sodas. He originally made this company. You you know in Detroit and hire people that were out of work and wasn't wasn't looking to to make money. He just wanted to employ people make a great product and an American product. And have right here in Detroit Michigan. And they've done such great work such quality work that this company is is is One of the best run Tom Lewan. WHO's a graduate assistant here when I was here is the the CEO so wonderful product is fantastic to to watch that? Where and if and Jack Harbaugh in the future we'll also where you can find out all the information about Sinaola at Shinola dot com next Ben Hall Data Running Back Zach Charbon here on attack each day the Harbaugh's podcast introducing the capital one walmart rewards card earn earn unlimited five percent back on everything by Walmart Online? It's the perfect card for all your family hints. This holiday season like five percent back on the air fire. GRANDPA told you about when he fell asleep in his chair frame using or five percent back on the laptop. Your sister had carolers sing the capital. One Walmart aren't rewards card earn unlimited rewards including five percent back at Walmart online. What's in your wallet? Terms and exclusions apply capital one. You're listening to attack each each day. The harbaugh's podcast. It's now time to hear from Ben Hall of Fremont Ohio Native. Who is a data running back Zach? Chardonnay we open things up asking him about how quiet things Dr at home. Now that Zack is out of the House and school in Ann Arbor. It is a really different dynamic. You know that commanded a lot of energy into two now and relate to that. Yeah Ya think. Things are really different things. There are a lot quieter on the one. The hand on the other mom mom pours a lot of time into these kids in the evenings. You know be be watching a show. Or what have you she just she was a lot of time into them. And I guess my view with with Zach is you know. She really pours time known as they get into that. You know those teen years and what have you. And so if we're lucky she she she delivered the finishing touches to him but now she has a few more boys coming through and they're getting that same attention he got so I don't see more of her. I don't see more of her based on that she's investing in the next round of boys but it's it's it's quite a change still still still what foreign house now. Four now has made a good transition. It's been about I. I use a twenty one day a Window before they feel comfortable has has he made a good transition. Do you feel well. It's it's UNCANNY. I was talking to among about this. The other day I think you know He. He's had a little bit of challenge. And I think I think you guys know that Not Not unusual. I don't think for you know kid. Go in two thousand miles away from home but we showed up there on January eighth and the message was delivered about the magic of twenty one. Mondays and I cannot make this up because it's one hundred percent true on the Twentieth Day Zach and I were having sort of a text exchange right getting being through what I would say was a tough moment and on the twenty first day he sent me attacks that literally said pop all the negativity. I is gone I got under my I lift and I'm in love again to go honestly on the twenty ninth of January. That's the message. I got story. Yeah golly how how did he survive the polar vortex. It'll probably little wonder about that. Your kid from Southern California in Ann Arbor pry the coldest. It's I've been in forty five years. Forty five years how. What was his What was this feedback about that? Well I sent him tex warning him. You know like hey this this weather you're about to get is the real deal like you can't go for twenty minute. Walk across campus without your fingers covered in your ear lobes covered and all that sort of stuff thinking you know and I even told him you know guys you said forty five years. I suggested to him. I'd only only been in this kind of weather Once or twice in my life even though I grew up back there and Clearly since I'm forty the three I've never been in that kind of weather. But that said his effectively his response was these people are crazy. This isn't that bad. That's exactly exactly what I said. People have got so soft. You know like you. Can't you gotTA cancel school. You gotTA cancel businesses. We in a lot of work yesterday. These are college college students at the University of Michigan. They're smart enough to put on a warm jacket. You know a stocking cap gloves a scarf around the the face you know. Put some long johns. We're not dealing with University of Michigan. I the back of the world Gerald. We're talking about that when I was coming in the building today and we get it for like the kindergarteners first graders. We don't waiting at the bus but for college. Kids layer up right right. Yeah layer ire up so glad to hear Zak's making the transition from you guys. You guys have a chance to interact with them a little bit. I know you're on the road a lot. But you have a chance of the Ann Arbor Aside Housi- making that transition. He's he's he's the best he's there's nobody more loved than Zach Chardonnay in this recruiting class from the time we first met him and Fell in love with them as as a football player. He's a big tough hard running back that's got really like feet. And Great Balance and speed and watched watched him watched him play in person and watch them play on tape. I mean literally and tough and can carry a team He's got the really everything everything you're looking for. And he's he's serious too I've it's the it's the rare true freshman in my opinion that comes in with the attitude food that they're that they're a forty year old guy that has a mortgage day. You know I mean they WANNA kick in the door four six. AM getting the weight room and and and they want to go to bed at ten o'clock at night and they're just they're they're serious serious and they're go getters like that usually takes guys awhile doesn't it. Data may take a year to three four. Sometimes they never get it. But that's that's that's what I see with with Zach. Who would you compare him with as a running back from your experience as a player and a coach coach? You know it's like you just saw Franco Harris yesterday at the Super Bowl ran it through over the hallway Froze a little. He's not quite in the shape that he was he was where he was playing playing for the steelers but Canada. That reminded reminds me of the way play. You know just light on his feet and it big and thick and can run kind of Maybe more more modern like a Edgerrin James. What do you think Ben who would you? Who who do you compare Zach too? Well I think I think it's going to be interesting to see because You know in the offense. He ran in high school It's sort of mandated that he has some Some patients in the backfield and Sorta wait for that whole as opposed to You know sort of being committed in haywar running to that whole no matter. What Interesting to see I think I think sometimes times systems that they're playing in dictate Sort of WHO. They remind you of But he's he's he's obviously a little bit of a taller back You know not not the five nine five ten profile more of the six one but to your point he's got He has the ability to to shift from speed to power and back again. You can agenda gap. He can jump gap. Some guys can jump a gap. Some guys can jump to gaps. I mean he's got he's got the ability to jump gaps and he's that light on his feet. Let's go back a little bit and take us to your introduction of sports to your boys and that father some podcast we bring on the lucky sports parents talk about their. The kids are coming here to Michigan. Talk about how you got your boys involved in sports and some of those early father-son members that you have with the kids. Yeah a lot of fun you know Oh played a lot of sports myself growing up and You know one of the things I can tell you with Zach is you know Outta the chute he. He had a physical makeup to suggested should he was going to have tremendous gross motor skills and You know he he had he had you know traps on his arms when he was two or three years old. We're neighbors. I would say you know. Neighbors would say cheese. How many push ups do you make them do? A day sort of thing a- and the fact is that was just. That was just God's gift but I took them out I remember this distinctly taking them out. Oh it must have been after Christmas or his fourth birthday which is an early January Gave gotten a new a bike and we lived in a home that had alley behind it and I took them out to To teach them how to ride this bike and I I decided I would do it without training wheels. I had that much conviction fiction that we could learn that quickly. We didn't need training wheels. And so we go out in this alley and I in in a minute and a half later. I'm walking in the house and you can imagine mom right whether you know our baby boys out there alone. Now where's that where's it back and I said we're done you know he's he's writing. He's going to divert say what age he was. Four years old. It was two weeks eight or two weeks before its fourth thia Christmas time or for his birthday. which is January? We are bad. We're banner bad sports. Dad's we we we. We pride ourselves on being given you mean by five six. We've kind of collaborated in teaching our grandkids and kids the ride bicycles. And that's kind of become a thing for us. Yeah we think we're really good at it but we we pale in comparison right before for years old though we maybe our kids is good athletes. I you gotta go there. Usually yeah usually took us a day or two. I mean we'd have to do one day of kind of getting up there and getting it a little bit then the next day you come back back and you really got the confidence and hold on day two humidity half. That's just put him on the seat and just kind of pushed him down the driveway. Okay and it really was. We started at one of the alley. Put Him on a seat. gave them a little shove he went. And I said you know now re- reverse with your feet and you hit the brakes and didn't have wall wall and off. We went from there But he he learned so quick that I I can remember walking the walk in the House and my Gosh. We're done he's already already got it. I knew them that you know this kid. His kids just his balance is gross. Motor skills all that stuff sort of off the chart. I'm in so from there. You know he played a lot of baseball and a lot of basketball He played one year of football. And then what would be my definition which was too young. You know six years old or something like that And and frankly because you know he was profiling kind of as a running back linebacker sort of thing thing we we pulled them out of football and then let them play again until seventh grade. Just because we just didn't just didn't want the contacts. And what have you from those positions and you know for second third. They have a like a weight rule. I know in some of those pop warner teams. They if you're a certain way you can't be a running back and and they do do and in and out here. We call those that we call those X.. Men because they put a giant x on the back of the helmet when they are too big and yeah actually younger brother. There is that profile. Last year he played. Yeah Enzo Enzo played up division and he was still too big man. Yup but so yeah he like I say lots of basketball lots of baseball And then and then football and seven grade did you ever get involved in soccer at all. No no soccer beauchamp. Back in the seventies both sit. Here's tried to do my best bullshit Becker with this. and He'd come to a parent and he'd say side her is the greatest game ever invented the greatest game Bob ever invented until you're in the seventh grade then it's time to quit and play football soccer greatest game ever invented. An every American boy should play soccer until the eighth grade and then they should play. Football changed that I just I just left out. The Middle Party party uses say in every every American kids should play soccer. I did forget that until the eighth grade. And then it's time to quit and play football and it's tied to play the greatest sport ever invented. So what was it like when he picked up when he went back to the pigskin in seventh grade. Was it kind of just a natural thing from the go back he was. He had a wonderful. A full season led the team to the Super Bowl. I'll be a close loss And he had a great season and I remember telling mom after the season I said you know for his greatest that was he traded on all of his natural gifts and I said but I told her I said but I don't know yet if we have a football player you guys appreciating reshaping the difference from being just a good athlete on the field to sort of the attitude that it takes to be a football player So the answer. The short answer is yes. He had an unbelievable seven a great season the extended answer is we were we. Were playing at scrimmage eighth grade and one of the posing players really like the first or second play the game really just just billy clubs one of our players and scrimmages as you guys know in youth sports in between plays you're going into the Huddle in your coaching. And so oh after this particular play. I remember going to the dark sunglasses on and I'm yelling at the players in some way or to sort of get them going emotionally but I also remember definitively definitively staring at Zack in the eyes and there was just this conversion that went on there was a this this nastiness that showed up and he literally went on to dominate. That scrimmage and I guess probably four or five players for four or five plays later. I walked over to mom with a little tear rowing from the true story. True Story and I looked and I said just the you know we have a football player. The moment the wards cockles of the heart the remember until the dirt over the top of you. I truly believe this. I think the thing about football that makes it such a fantastic sport. Then maybe hockey's a little like this to there's that definitive moment in football when you get that feeling of get that look in here. I and you get the feeling about the game that I've got to rise up and I've got I've got mostly take control of this situation. I'm not so sure that it can be duplicated in in a lot of other sports how would you. How would you respond to that? I I completely agree You know obviously there's there's a camaraderie that comes with sort of grind. You know preparing for eight or nine months you know. For the for the small opportunity to go compete twelve times right Dif- different than other. spurts where you play so many games. But then also I don't know there's testosterone swagger there is a A confidence that comes with playing this game at an elite level and there is that moment that definitive moment and I I can tell you is act that that that look in those eyes. That's the moment he figured out. How to manufacture actually Britain themselves and he is repeated and repeated and repeated it? You know sort of on Game Day. So it's a fun thing for me just having a sense for what's going on in his mind you know just the comprehension if you will aware he's at emotionally to kind of see the body in Bela read that moment and pre game where it's you know. It's go time in his head. They say to have raised them really well. I I look at football football. I mean it. There was a time when it was like you know the sport for the toughest the fastest the strongest kids and and blocking and tackling tackling with the things that that made football and then it started getting to where one handed catches. Were you know the the only important thing and by say that to say. That Zach is throwback Kinda guy did not not a social media guy. He's not looking to see how many followers he could get on twitter. He straps it up and and buckles the Chinstrap and Ron's our blocks You know it's it's with. Its with a purpose to to play strong and toughened and fast and I really appreciate that about the the one thing. I see here in the short for five weeks at the that they've been here. This group of Eight Is A to me a really an unusual and fascinating any group. Because they've they've come together and they bonded as one and sack appears to me to be kind of the glue that holds together to some degree. Am I way off base on that or they all seem to be that way. Yeah you know it is. It's a really unique group. I mean that's my point. They get to class about twenty minutes early. That's the reports you know. They got all the materials arrayed ago. They they're they're all over here at the facility all the time. Cade McNamara's organizing kate passing groups him and Eric All are are throwing and and they're lifting Mazi Smith and David Joe Bower together at all times other lifting. They're they're going to class together roommates. You know it's it's it's great and you see him as a as a big group too but there's they they're so serious you know. They're really serious about about what they're doing. It's interesting looking looking at all the guys they they all rely on each other for different things. A good point like Eric was standing in this office coach and he mentioned that you said something you by again. The class and getting the lifts and Eric was like Yep I just talked to Zach Zach points me in the right direction and then it's all about the they they all. They're all leaning on each other for different things in different people and that's what's making them grow closer and closer together because that is difficult when you come in mid term like that. They're the freshman group his already. Here the other freshmen group is not isn't coming until August in a They have to rely on each other and they have to count on each other. Believe in each other To make that transition I think no doubt no doubt Midwest guy like you bet. Mary's a Gal from Paris France dare. I say I out kick my we all have we all have. So how. How did you meet your wife meet? We we actually worked together in Orange County separated by. I think six or seven floors but right You know I I remember her. First Day of employment with the firm and There was a clear twinkling eyes. She went walking past on the tour. You're and sure enough some six or seven months later we went. We went out on a on a Saturday. Lunch date and the rest is history. The rest is history. Actually my game plan if if if truth be told was to To sort of work hard and and grinding for more years before I considered Getting too serious but You know I guess after a month or two dating I met Zachariah and When I met him I it occurred to me that I did not want to wait around for this? Fatherhood thing That you know getting to know him Put me in a spot of if if you will of being in a rush Because I just I just enjoyed enjoyed being around him and enjoy the opportunity of influence on a young man life and You know and of course fell in love with mom which which led us to your point. 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And we've always always had this concept of stillness like sometimes you just gotta be still for second. And that's when that's when the real ideas happen and real real connection happens it's a great concept the concept of sitting still an just putting your electronics down muting the television and sitting in room and Chattan. And I'm you have three boys and you're able to do that. That's actually a pretty impressive thing. Well it's just as we started when we were little their a little kids. You know like just mute the TV and and honestly that's when you can take a break from being you know ah Kinda captivated you kind of like a hostage of the TV already so you might as well just stop for a second and then you can think about something else also it just do something else you know. Just ask questions or talk or whatever take a break yeah. So that's that's been that's been good one. The thing that I've had a difficult time in the first person would tell you that as my wife. Jackie that it's hard for me to be quiet to listen to be silent but one one thing that With grandchildren now getting a second crack at it. Silence is not a bad thing. Just listen and sometimes did you hear nothing and just listening eventually. You know you're going to draw some conversation from your grandchildren or from your children. And I'm a seventy nine years old and I'm working on it. I'm quite not quite there yet. But I am working on seventy nine years young thank you. Yeah whatever's focused because you got three Three three boys that are really doing well in school and and on the athletic fields tells about you. Tell us about all three well. Yeah thank you. I'LL START I'll start with the youngest Carnegie his name and he's an. He's an eighth grader. Who's just in the process of applying for secondary school for for him so he'll probably maybe go into boarding school or some other school and the reason we're doing that because he's really good at basketball and up where we are? Maybe it's not as competitive so you know I've always just decided like hey you know what wherever we have to take mckim. That's what we'll also from early on. I started taking into Aau basketball team down in Harlem You know it's just a commitment and that's what we've done so he's a really good kid is a really good communicator. he's he's got got this. IQ kind of communication and maybe like emotional intelligence IQ. That's really high so You know I actually learned a lot from him. You think it's supposed to be the other way around but I really appreciate that. And then there's there's caches. He's the oldest HE'S A. He's a cornerback. At the University of San Diego through where you guys have connections yes Both both Mister Poach coach. Rbi Coach Auerbach. And so he's he's a rising junior really likes it there. He's he's done really well and and He's still have a long Christmas break so he's still back around here doing different things that go back about a week or so and And in and then there's Cornelius and you know he's a senior in high school Just signed with the University of Michigan. We couldn't be prouder of that Komo. He's a he's a wide receiver and You know so it's it's it's an amazingly You know exciting meantime for all of us and you know me as a dad. I'm just grateful and humble and open to whatever whatever comes next next. You mentioned your son Carnegie. And how intuitive he seems to be in sounds like he was kind of the one that also maybe kind of pushed his brother towards Knowing that Michigan was the right spot. Yeah well you know it's interesting. I mean those guys. They're like they're like peas in a pod and and they are very close and they've probably spent more time on the field together than any any of of the others. I myself included this throwing the ball back and forth. Because he's his Carnegie's actually also really tremendous football player but he chose rose chose basketball at least for now to focus on. But you know it's not that they give each other advice or the Carnegie gives Cornelius advice risk in families. You have this concept of stasis which is like you know states like the relative relationship that each each family member has with each other family member so we kind of become each other's lighthouses. You know so you may not ask the lighthouse where you're going going but you know it's over there and that tells you where you are and then as you grow you keep having to check your different relatives points Oreos because you're not saying what place. So so as they proceed forward they kind of check in with each other and Ping each other and you know my still hear hear you still there. Yesterday it was so good. Yeah Yeah Yeah So. There's a lot of that going on in the family and they they have a really good connection in that way. So I think it's more just. Hey are you looking at everything you know what was where did we start with all this. And what are all the things that we've always talked about and putting it all together so I think they did really well for question if I could. So you had the say benefit of having an older one be recruited and have a chance to go through the process and then and then The next one came along. What you're thinking chair might have changed your approach to things or or might have improved what The process. That's a great question. I mean for for caches. I he was running back up until until junior year and he was very good and then he switched to corner and so we were late in the process so he didn't have any eight corner cornerback film from Sophomore Year and I was new to the process. So I didn't really know that you're supposed to be out there to these camps and doing on these things and then he started taking you know he's had already been checking it very seriously and so we were a little bit late with him but and he keeps getting better in other words. He's still got. He hasn't peaked yet but he's still improving and in his You know the skill position science and then also physically So so you know so then. When it came around to to Cornelius he was is playing Varsity as a freshman cash. You know getting a little bit later later a bloomer. He wasn't playing varsity until until until sophomore year. So so it was a little bit different And you know as a first timer you you get tempted by all these different recruiting reading services and hey look you can get visibility and and we just started thinking of a different way. If you're good you're good and somehow pray a someone will find find out and there is also the miracle of of Huddle video and the miracle of Don Round around who is also around here. You know snooping around and I asked him. What did you find out? And he's just like that's my job is supposed. Go look around for talent. That's it's funny recruiting services. That's something that me as a director of recruiting it bothers me when when these services are out there trying to get young is a seventh eighth ninth graders to buy their service. Spend five thousand dollars and I will email you emma. All your film out and your information out in this and that and there's so many free services to you all and that I by the Michigan buys and other universities by that are free but we pay for to get that information that there should be no recruit out. They're paying money to be a part heart of any service. They're just all they're doing is giving on my email address which is clearly on Michigan's website. I mean that's about what they do for area so I'm glad you mentioned that it's something that's always irked me as bad parents spending money for recruiting services. I mean the thing thing is it. It's it can be challenging. Because we went to caches waiting for him. We would go to a website and you find a person's email but they're getting lots and lots of emails to different people and so we finally what I what I learned is go all all the way down to the very bottom of that list and at taught and find like one person who's like a graduate assistant who can actually access and then talk to that person person who's kind of like you know at the at the ground floor so to speak and see if you can through through just good conversation get get him to agree to maybe look at some film and then you know maybe that guy he's got maybe see something and and he's okay. Yeah you know I I showed its own so so whatever at least you start a conversation that way because you can't call up the head coach and go. Hey Guy for you know. Even if you're a high school told you sometimes can't do that. How how much was your high school coach there? How much help was he able to to give you in the process I would? Let's say that He was he was very helpful. you know and and the thing is I mean it's it's a learning process for all of us including putting him. I don't think that he's he's ever been in a situation where where he had. So many where he was able to reach out? or or even had somebody coaches calling on him because we honestly haven't really had that level of of of of recruiting talent nationally finally recruited player at this school. It's IT'S A. It's a good school for football but it hasn't always been that way you know so we always get that knock. That Connecticut isn't competitive It's getting more competitive And you'll see some some some nice diamonds Come out of this area but I would say. Now he's definitely got got the hang of it and he can pick up the phone and call even for players is it you d three d one AA and he's very comfortable with doing that. Club Johnson here and attack each day. The harbaugh's podcast. Claude is the dead of Cornelius. Ordinarily Johnson who is going to be or is a member of Michigan's class of twenty nineteen. You talk about the Connecticut. I believe three guys will be on the roster in the fall from the state of Connecticut that may be outside of Yukon. Maybe the lead in the country. You guys have a knack. He mentioned Dombrowski. What is it about Dan and that area coast? He seems to find these guys to reap black and he talked about Cornelius. jek stores coming in this a dancing. Those guys and I say the Connecticut guys cut up man. Men with the mask is and the all new end equity pay in Rhode Island Tariq Black Ben Mason and Sean mccune and the maker Cornelius Johnson. There I mean the good thing. Is they all play. You know they're all they're all play they give no grief They're not allergic to work. And and these guys come in here and they're they're really good players. They're good teammates and I think they're the raised it's really well and and You know you talk about Dot Brown. Dot Brown's definitely been really been the key. I just did a week of recruiting recruiting with Don in Connecticut Central Mass and I We spent most of his whole career coaching. He knows every every high school coach coach There they they walk in and Don Walks in. And it's it's you know it's a reunion it's one of the coaches even say Don Brown and Massachusetts. There's there's Bill Belichick never wanted d'abre number two that's the ranking. That's the ranking. Tom Brady ready number three. That's that's how he thought of their you know it's it's great. I'm trying to pick up the kind of the key the keys. Maybe six to ten key words. You know that the talk like a person from central mass. You know yachts. How many yards did he get? Ah exactly that's funny but it's awesome and a plan that you know they're clot said it you know we're saying here. The Guy's from Connecticut Massachusetts Rhode Island. Uh they come here and there and they're all they all play and they all work hard and they get good grades and they've got really good support from home. You know there's no there's no soft shoulder to cry on it doesn't it appears to me that way. And they they get they get good advice on you know in they support. Support the coaches here. I mean I think of all the parents that their of our players from that area. It's not like there's criticism of the of the coaches at the doctors or you know it's the the they support and to give them the right advice. Claughton played in cold weather. That is That's important factors off Claudio. Your perspective on the the value bringing Cordelia can't come in here for the camp experience you getting to watch him During that camp experience what was it like for you and what it's like for him. Yeah you you know that I just wanted to say since you mentioned New England and and Brady and Belichick. When when Cornelius was six years his old I took took all the boys to their first football. NFL Game First football game and it was at Gillette Stadium. It was October seven in two thousand seven and the Patriots beat the browns thirty four to seventeen house. I must have had gotten the bonus or something so we sat in the front row in the upper deck and somehow it made an impression on them and now you know all these years later we're watching The Patriots go to the Super Bowl again and and I think that's when they fell in love with with the sport. And and so you know we've we've always had in cornelius has always had a real admiration Asian for for for excellence You know for greatness and so one of the things. He was looking forward to chance here. Question about campus. Is You get a sense of greatness or not wherever you go and he he. He's really really highly attuned to guys who are haters Brady or Lebron and coby or Mj. I'm Jay you can't really hate somebody that's just truly great if you're a fan of greatness and a student of greatness and that's what we've always had that's what we do when we're when we when we we talk about stuff like that you know and just reflect on it and so so when we when we got to when we got to Michigan actually can campus but not not just the camps but the the official visits everything about it was. It's just it's great and it's not just great and the Emoji sense but like really great like greatness and you could tell and I think that's what that's what resonated resonated with Cornelius and with us from the whole process things Claude things. Ben Thanks and Derek thank you to podcast one and our sponsors Shino I know and Louis Jewelers and thanks all of you for listening this week. You can contact us on twitter at a deep

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Big Wins, Funny Michigan Men and Keys

Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast

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Big Wins, Funny Michigan Men and Keys

"The following program is brought to you by podcast. One sports net. Don't forget to download our new podcast. One app. He is currently the head football coach of the university of Michigan wolverines and a former player. His dad and brother are also former players and coaches, but there is more to them than just football. It's time to talk about attacking life each day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. This is attack each day. The Harbaugh's podcast with Jim Harbaugh. Hello, everybody welcome to another addition of attack. Stay the Harbaugh's podcast. Once again, I'm your host IRA Weintraub joined by the real host of the show, the stars, the show coach, Jim Harbaugh, coach, Jack Harbaugh director, recruiting, Matt Dudek is here. MacKenzie is here as well. A great weekend for the Harbaugh levies you and Jackie MAs love these when they're over. You love my point African through. There you love would not be a term that you would do would put on top of it. Jim set you up on Saturday. John brings it home on Sunday, and you go to an over the weekend. Can't get much better than that. Of course, Michigan beat Nebraska. We'll talk about that and leading into northwestern coming up. The scholar brothers are making a return to the podcast eight killed it Saturday night. I was the eight o'clock showing at the comedy showcase after the football game. I felt like I won twice. I went to football game, and then I saw the scholars and they killed it on on Saturday night down there at the Arbor comedy showcase. And of course we'll wrap up with hashtag Jack talk reminder subscribe to us on apple podcast. You can listen by the podcast one app or on podcast, one dot com. Please follow us and contact us on Twitter at ADD podcast or using hashtag Jack talk guys. We had a ton of tweets last week, people loved the history lesson from our friends at the job. Our Ford presidential museum that we had on last week's podcast, we probably would have gone further our. They were fastened conversations last week, and we got a lot of a lot of replies, best podcasts. One person said second-best, but they never replied. I asked what was best was better and I didn't get that one. So I didn't get a chance to what was the their version of the best podcast. But apparently the presidential visit with folks, Joe Ford museum was the second best podcast we've done. There was a great history lesson. It was a lot of fun. So obviously with you, did I mean them in your scholar. You knew your history you were? I've been called a lot of things, but never gentleman and scholar in the same sentence. That's amazing. I absolutely hated. He likes to. He likes to be a little self self self deprecating humor. He Cokie Zach. I mean, he's a pretty smart guy and he's a pretty gentleman and scholar would fit like, I think we can say that and he'll have to hide. Of it. We've been to the library or the museum over there twice Jackie and myself and never each. And every time you learn more, you get another story about this tremendous man and the career that he had and that at fail forward concept just blows me away. Our young people today they go out and have a bad day. They don't wanna play any more. I mean, they don't. They don't want to, but what his feeling was based on his live her we should transcribe that right, right. Along with with judge Judy, her message to to young people. His was phenomenal last week and the educational process they use over there when they bring those those kids in there as fail, they fail and then that, but that whatever, how you ever got to that, you've eliminated. Now you go to the next and the next. Sometimes you have to go to the next and eventually you're going to hit it, but it takes tremendous patience in that fail forward concept to me is so needed with our young generation today, I'll doing a show in town. With our friends from concordia where you spoke earlier in the year and something that the coach said resonated. And I said earlier this week, we talked about fail forward and I'm pretty sure fail for it is now on like the top of every meeting room at concordia it because they the concept actually makes sense. And it was fascinating stuff. You've missed last week. Go onto podcast, one download last week's podcast and give it a listeners. Terrific. The fail forward. Just expand of that. I got. I got a text from one of my good friends and coaching Idaho quoted it. But he said, when you feel like throwing in the towel, that's God throwing it back at you telling you to wipe off your face, you're almost there. That's a great one. What a great, what a great concept that you can imagine. Just imagine that concept. That's fantastic. Fail forward analogy, but our young people are young people. Now I say young people, I'm talking about twelve twenty six twenty nine year old young fifty four. Yeah. What does keep we keep expanding that that generation were? Oh, my goodness, I can't do that. I can't do that. I'm not good at that. I don't. I don't want to compete. We gotta keep hammering this away. So moving forward as opposed to failing forward Michigan football team did not fail anything this past week fifty six to ten drubbing of Nebraska. There's a Nebraska, a random Nebraska, Michigan connection and a Harbaugh connection because in nineteen fifty-six one year, he started his head coach at Nebraska, Pete Elliott. And of course, Pete Elliott and his his son, Bruce, we, we know very well who sells the finest coach in all the land. How how do you find? Did you have any any documentary evidence on that? I do. Coach, Elliott is the coach of my daughter Addy's field hockey team. I don't think he's lost a game and maybe ever. Pretty Mitch. No. The last four or five years has not lost a game. I've watched him coach. He's, he's amazing at. Getting all the girls where they're supposed to be on the field. I mean, just constantly coaching them and and they do what he date do what he says, and then the ball comes to them and Addie got another goal this week. But yeah, it's amidst hard to get, you know, nineteen to twenty three year olds to do to be an exact spot that you want them and I'm, I'm watching him, do it with, you know, with with nine and ten year old, how does he feel about him as a coach? She Addy said he is the best coach is the best coach in the world. All sports are. Yeah. Katie did Katie chimed in and said, what about daddy? And daddy was good at coaching football, but coach Elliott's the greatest of all coaches in all, because here's why because on their team, they have, they have three Addy's and there's I think, to Caitlyn's and two other names to katie's. So he's able to tell exact, they know who he's talking to every time into to Addie to have all those multiple names that somebody could do that and and coach them all and they and the girls know who he's talking to during the game. And is it talent that think about that one that's a that is a talent when you think about it, that's a real talent. That's a skill. So coach, you guys had a nice win over Nebraska winds every game. Well, then they went every game, but that's for her secondary for him. Him for her. Number one, he he keeps them straight and then he's talking to. So that's, that's impressive. Fifty. Six ten was the score of the wind over Nebraska. A couple of things from you coach on this on the first one, and he had a great quote after it after the game, I love seeing Ben Mason. Tailback seeing him as the as formation. Tailback us talked about inertia. I mean the fact that right, he falls forward. He can't fall backwards. I don't think it's possible. Yeah, we were talking dead. Asked me about that. After the game, an object in motion, we'll stay in motion until it's acted upon by an equal or fellow by the name of Newton who'd he play for. Who he was, who he. Fig maybe fig fig new. That is a great thing with Newton's first name right now, sir. Isaac. There is a real scholar. I was kidding just to go. I think you're wasn't Huey knew there was there was a Huey Newton too. But yeah, it was. Yeah, he runs to two hundred and fifty eight pounds right now and and he's fast and he gets he gets moving. He's hard to bring down and crowd Higdon also had a excellent game. I mean, we were happy. We were happy with the outcome of the game and in all the phases and but still at the same time, we're thought we improved as a team and we're still looking to improve in every phase where we're at run game was obviously click in the past game, took some shots at need to have a lot of big shots, especially when you're having Karonga for forty six year and forty four there. And it seems like you've found some run game fits that really worked for you guys, whether it's Khurana or true Wilson doing another nice job back there as well. We talked about the improvement through the four gauge. One thing I see is our team has grown in physicality over four games and physical in the first game, but better and better and better. And and you see the players and coaches really buying into that concept of physicality. I wanted to. Special teams as well. We're able to be known as a good team. You have to be known as a physical team, love it. I love it. That's a great one. Got that up on the board Donovan people's Jones. This week was named the big ten co, special teams player of the week, and it was a great return. Punters get the short end. You two hundred fifty seven. They got muffed and scoop by you guys another fifty seven and a sixty four yard. It gets pinned to the five. That to me is all big, ten Connery right there punters get seem to get overlooked when to do things like that. We'll hearts really having a great year and the whole punt team. You know, the punt return team, the kickoff return team, the kickoff team. You know the field goal team. They are. They're doing a doing a heck of a job, waving your hand, my hand because this new rule. Fair catch inside the twenty five. And when you get a guy that catches the ball on the three and fair catches, I'm in your in your team, your special teams take a deep, deep vowel because they figure they can get that thing out of the twenty-five. They they see film. They study film. I'm just going to five yard line. I'm this gonna wave my hand and move the ball up to the twenty five. How about a running start at the tending? It was still waiting for a lot of respect for you. You were respect healthy respect for the special Tim unit on that one. Obviously, the other phase of the game is defense and some other guys to bring up Brad, Brad Hawkins really played. Well. He was he was in on the block, had a really good block for Donovan and played well in all the phases. Joe Hewlett is having an amazing season on special teams. Another guy just really just service in this game got quite a few stickers was hunter, Reynolds who did extremely well on special teams graded out as a as a corner for the defense as well. The McCurry's it's there's a, there's a long list, generic woods playing really well on special teams, Jared Wang, or you know, for Bush, there's, there's been a lot of contributors, amber Thomas. It's been a heck of a gun or Anna returner Donovan, you know, that was a that was an amazing run. So it real shout out to coaches, Chris Partridge, and j Harbaugh and all the coaches it participate in the special teams. You can really see a bonding in a special pride in being out there for those those five phases, a special teams. Yeah, it's it's it is. There's in Jordan. Kovacs is doing an excellent job. Tyler Brown is doing an excellent job and Greg frolic one of our former players. I mean they are you go back into that special teams war room where the where the coaches game plan and watch, watch tape and they are you talk about collaborative. You talk about a collaborative. Effort going on. It's it's really good. And that say the same thing with the with the offensive line, Brandon Blondie and Ron prints, you know, really doing a great job, helping us game plan each week and so is Ed Warner with that offensive line and and Pat Kugler. I don't know if some people even know that some of some of those coaches vicodin are here, but you know, there was an excellent run game plan that was was put together this past week and collaborative effort. You know, doing very, very well talk about physicality and coaching. The play that I saw that this resonated with me with the goal line play. On the goal line, the offense of lying came out flat backs. I mean, they came out low. They drove the Nebraska deep kind of a big front three they had in there and they just drove them to yards into the end zone. I mean, they drove them to yards in the end zone and got the ball and not a soul Dutch team until he nowhere. You're nowhere near back kind of joke that Mason's last time I was the last one right in his last touchdown. He doesn't get touched this probably his least satisfying because he likes to hit people and him to not be touched at all. Probably not all that satisfied. The one that does talking about was probably is the first one was the first one go into the south end and you talk about winning winning one on one match ups. And that's, that's the thing that if you're going to be a physical team, then you need to win one on one matchup and what and there's no. There's a saying football, choline football score with your man. So about four of our offense of lineman, they scored with the man that they were blocking because they, they got there. They got their job done and then somebody and it doesn't happen very often. Now at, you know, in this day and age, but that took place on that play and all five linemen really played well in this game starters, and backups came in and did a good job as well real quickly on the defense. And this is a game where you played Eighty-one guys. So a lot of guys come in and get an opportunity to play eighty eight. I think that was the final number was eighty one. Good. Yeah, it's it's what I read that somewhere seems about right. It was a law along number. Obviously later in the game, you're able to get a lot more guys in there and it's I know we've talked about in the past. The stars cheering on their backups and a couple of chances that a lot were chasing division Rashawn, Gary. They played the first. Of the first half one play. I mean, we're shot in the first drive, and then the third drive, he almost single-handedly just shut them down truck in a left tackle make an option stop from both guys. And it seemed like maybe his most physical game of the season chase just doing chase win of his things. And then they got to watch your back which really wasn't ask you about quitting pay eight and Hutchinson seemed like they're really getting their footing out there as defense. Yeah, the they're both showing up age Hutchinson also graded out as chased it as as Rashawn did and that you know that really bodes well, both those two young defensive ends plant so well and I did have I need only making comparisons, but I'm trying to get a comparison of a guy that can go side on the sideline, like Devin, Bush, junior. I remember the last time, a guy. I mean, he's flying it screens. He's flying this. He's flying at that. His speed Ceylon sideline is fast. We've seen here maybe ever. I don't. There's someone else that you remember playing against or coaching against or seeing. That's the shot. A comparison because that he flies around the football field. Yeah, but somebody asked me that today, do I think Devin Bush should be an all American? And he sure is playing at that level. I mean, I don't watch all the other teams every other linebacker that's out there in the country, but it'd be hard to imagine that there's a linebacker playing better than Devon bushes right now, the the speed the I mean, the physicality. It's not, you know, it's front up tackles, it's it's fourth-down stops now in the whole solo. He's he's, he's done that. He's he's chased down the option. He looks as fast as the backs, you know, or maybe misstep faster. I, I saw play Saturday. He the back came out of the backfield in the back head at least three yards on him. When he he caught the Bari run the ball. He had three yards on him and Devon had a tight angle on him to wear a guy that doesn't believe he's fast would have changed. His angle would have changed. His is angle knowing that he was going to give him five yards before he could cut the angle down on him for the first. He ran right at him and ran him down like a Jack rabbit. I mean, he ran him down for a no gain. The men never had a chance to earn his shoulders up to feel. Yeah, you're exactly right. When he caught the ball, he said, okay, that's going to be a first out. They're going to be moving the sticks here and because we only had about four yards to kit. Right and be darned if Devon did make the tackle, if you could just take at one play and just kind of pass it around the country to those people that are voting for all Americans to make a tremendous k. for that young man. Yeah, that was his closing. Pete is absolutely terrific guys hit back on the road for the second time this year, biggest town just for you guys. You're another road game this time at northwestern. Yeah, northwestern is always been a consistently good good football team, and we're, that's what we're doing right now is watching watching the tape and it's a physical team, their physical upfront, they're long and athletic, and and strong. They've done a done, a nice job. So linebackers very downhill backers. You know, you'd expect from a Pat FitzGerald type of of squad very experienced quarterback. So we're, we're putting the the plan together and excited start practicing the evening defensive coordinator. Mike hankwitz, Michigan man played here on the sixty nine team. He was a wide receiver and one of the great great coaches. He coached with us. It western Michigan for a couple years and and he at he's good. He's got to be a little bit older than the average. Maybe maybe defensive coordinator in the country. I. I think he may be a few years older even than Don. I mean, that's don's old. I'm not. But he is really a good coach in fundamentally good. Jim young type came out of that that coaching tree and and I know he would love to play lows, play against Michigan. So we have, we have our hands full. We do and you know, all that all that background to all the, you know, the the three, four, the fifty two defense, you know, the the angle, the slant the movement of front. I mean, they play a four down defense, but you can really see the the fifty two incorporated into into what they're doing and you know, it's all all really, really good and really sound just like you would expect from ballclub the Michigan wolverines travel really well, there'll be a lot amazing faithful in Evanston for you guys on Saturday. Look forward to watching you guys play in that game, looking for our conversation coming up onto the side here with the scholar, brothers here on a tacky day the Harbaugh's podcasts, make sure to stick around after this podcast to get the latest. Lines from the AP news minute, if you like our show, you're gonna love the new underdog sports network on podcast. One join Chris Horwood, Ellen friends each week as they cover the biggest stories in sports on the underdog examined football news year round with the underdog sports. NFL show learn more about former MBA players on tales from the association and fight it out on your wrong. And here's why check out all the exciting shows on the underdog sports network every week on podcast one or wherever you get your favorite podcasts, you're listening to attack each day. The Harbaugh's podcast. We're now joined on a tax day. The Harbaugh's podcast by the scholar, brothers, making a return visit to the podcast after they were here in town. This weekend, they were at the Michigan Nebraska game on Saturday, and they played four shows the Arbor comedy showcase, and let me tell you they killed it. They were terrific on Saturday night. At least eight o'clock shot is one of the four shows, but they weren't to knock the socks off. Those attending absolutely sold out show and it was absolutely hilarious and the line out the door for, you know, selling their CDs and t shirts. Some of this stuff after Iran. Where's your best line? What was your. Bad, fine. I think we were making we made at the top of the show. We made fun of Ohio State and Michigan state getting mad that Ohio states vandals were getting all the press like we have scandals, we have scandal to you. Why are scandals let why do you think are scandals don't make as much sense as yours get? Why aren't the important issue? And the crowd loved it. And the other we said we said was one thing and Arbor needs is a little bit of instruction. All they need. Why should people be able to drive freely around the streets of Anaheim? And it killed it because the open the when you walk into the showcase whole thing is under construction in the front and blocked. You can't even see the fun of the venue. And so I think I think there was building building, we're building an attack, save time. We said, I think there was we had an easier time finding bin Laden. Yeah. We're great seeing you guys. Thanks for coming by the office and coming by practice on Schimdt Boeckler hall fry what we think. What did you think of the game? My God that was just domination in every aspect of the game. It was so fun. We got to talk to Charles Woodson ahead of the game. We thought Kim Hardaway, junior and senior together was great to see as you guys father and son together, hanging out was really cool. We met Jordan pool and Isaiah livers who told us they were fans. They were in the front row with the student section. It was off, hey, guys, did you? Did you see Tom Brady at the game? No, there was he there. He was there. He was there today. My dad's song, what you tell that story did I was open, press box up in alcoholics, press box before the game and gentlemen walked up and he stuck his hand out. He said Tom Brady, and my thought was Tom Brady how many people new world can be named. It wasn't Tom Brady that we all. Michigan quarterback, Tom Brady, and I thought, wow, that's interesting. He's telling me he has the same name as Tom Brady, and then he went, you know, I was here last time I was here is twenty years ago, and I'm thinking Tom Brady last time is here twenty years ago. It's not the Tom Brady that played here twenty years, and I thought my goodness, this must be his father, and it was. What do they say? How many points of to get you to where you have any understanding of who that might be? It was at least five points for me and I'm, he just dragging me. And finally is lit up. By any chance, have a son named play football and be named Tom. Tom Brady seniors. He's a big guy, six. Sixty four liquor guy. You know. Tom juniors, rain, she, but he's a little bit thicker, but what a, what? A charming great guy I could. I just. Just really marveled. Enjoy the time spent with him. Well, you know, that's the to like how how big the experience the Michigan experiences through generation your son can go there and like our parents didn't go to Michigan, but they loved Michigan. They loved it deeply because we were there. And so it's and that's what the school really is. It kind of brings the whole family and that's why it's a community, I think. So it's a t. We talked about this often, but one back in the seventies when we were coaching here with Bo you, the families would come and they would bring their little ones a seven year olds in the six year olds and walk around and listen to the band pre-game and and it was a tremendous family experience, and we priced them somewhat families. I think out of out of our business now. But still you come on on Saturdays now. And now those little kids that were six and seven years old, they're the parents. Now they're renting their kids here. So it's a generational thing that that I hope we never lose here by by pricing it out of business. Well, I hope we never lose it either. But you think about you talking about recruiting and you guys had a great week last week recruiting, and but you talk about you guys are great recruiter, you know, Jim, you're a hell of a recruiter. The closing best is like, go talk Jay's deep days. She'll close the Bill for you. The parents, the parents don't do Jim. There's, I mean. I think Michigan, I think it's Michigan. I think it's. You know the the university, I think it's the town. I think it's the people that are here no doubt about it. I don't consider myself a great recruiter, but you know, Michigan is is one of those places that it's it's a powerhouse. You know, it's a powerhouse academically. It's a powerhouse athletically. And, and yeah, I mean, I think it's the best university in the world. This disturbing quickly. Video did she to see the video before the video James, James, James Jones said, it's the best university in the world. So. It's true. It's true. Dr. Fater says it's best university, the best university in the world. But you know the greatest ambassadors for the program over the fifty years that we've been around here are players. There are some universities when they come in for a Fisher visits to players, they, they excuse them from being around the building told you come around and we'd all which we don't need to see if forty hours university of Michigan. They can't get a recruit and his parents around of enough of our players because they're, they're, they're here for the total package. They're here for the four for forty years. They're not here for the four for three years or four for four years. They're going to play professional football. So you're so right about that. I mean, that is so that is so true. I'll give you a couple examples. We were met Dudek and I were having breakfast at bennies on Sunday morning after the game with a recruit and their family and David long who also happen to be eating breakfast. There may came up to the table and wave them over anything. Right on came over, introduced himself. And and then set said those very same things that you're saying right now that this is you could not choose a finer place to go to school. I also, you know, I came from from California and this is this is a wonderful place. I've had a great experience. You get a tremendous education here and the programs like a family coach by the best only that. I don't want to say, yeah, you're right. I mean, the the players are tremendous and our Ben, I think we ended. He ended up by saying, we pledge our allegiance to Matt Dudek. Thank you very much. I'm very small piece in this village. Comic though, Matt Dudek I think secretly down, he'd like to do stand up guy. He's funny. He's really funny. I am completely flattered right now. I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't know that I could do stand up, but I feel like I might maybe impromptu, maybe impromptu, kind of bring the funny and the liberty. He is the face in the body type thing. Gosh, I don't even know how to take that. I thought I thought I did for the podcast. I don't know if I could do it for stand up. That's. Yeah, it's gotta face for podcast, man. Radiance. Our brothers right here and attack the Harbaugh's podcast. They were here in town for the Nebraska game. They performed in town this past weekend as well. They do any invitations. I notice Clark, brothers, we, we, we spoke in the television and film department. We gave like a to our guest lecture for the sketch comedy writing class, which was awesome. And I got new all of those kids who are in that class. Almost all them came out to the show. The show's that weekend and the teacher came out just Jim Bernstein runs a great department over there. The program there is hop dot in a young town. We've got a good young talent here at the university of Michigan. Yeah, yeah. Couple of couple of five star gets comedy. People rivals rated them five stars right? Seven. Okay. There's football. I mean, there's there's historically good football programs, good football states, you know. Good, good high schools within every state. And is there, is there a certain part of the country? That's good for standup Saint Louis right guys comedians now. That's good for like improv Boston and New York, really good for stand up, but San Francisco is a good on. You know what happens is like you get these meccas like LA, San Francisco, New York, Chicago Denver has a really good comedy scene right now really good and you know what it is, and I think you guys understand this for most sports perspective as well. When you're around other great comedians, they push you to be better iron sharpens iron around the backup biblical nice when you're around the best, you get better. Like gig. There's no like part of the country or thread of it, come from anywhere from anywhere it come from any city, the borough Etienne's to a lot of Canadians, generic, Jim Carey, funny. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. My God kids in the hall, all those guys areas. Right? But the interesting thing everyone thinks they could be a stand up comic, don't they give me a Mike and give me an audience? And I'll while the what is it that separates the wannabes from from the talent that that that that you are the two. Great. That's such a great observation. I think it's because people they see what stage and you're just talking in the better you are the easier you make it look, right. So people are like, oh, I'm money. I tell stories and my friends laugh at me. I'm funny. The difference is you got when people ask us what to take a stand up comedian where like you need about ten years, you need about ten years, and if you're still doing it after that, then you're a good stand up comedian. And that's just what it is. I mean, it takes so much time to take to get your what makes you funny in life funding on state. You have to merge those two things and be yourself develop your own voice. So you find yourself competing to be funny, like all the time, like if you're a dinner with a with another couple or something, or if you're you're telling the story like I don't want to bomb, I don't want to bomb this story. I don't want to bomb. I know I'm here. It's like a four person, dinner party. I can't bomb Honey. It's no that, but the the truth matter is like, that's usually where the beginnings of standup it's comes like, maybe something happens to you in your life and you go on and you know it's a later it will become a comedy bit, but you're around small group of people and you put a little toe in the water and say, is this funny and you just kind of throw the story out there and if you're getting laugh around the dinner table, like let's do it. Let's put it in the act. So it's like a great best thing ground. But you know, we always love to laugh when we're around friends or for anywhere. But in the old days, I go back way way back guy, like Milton Berle one liners, he'd throw out one liner after one liner after one liner yet dove around one lighter, but I see it little differently now it's more. Is it more? Is it like that or is it more like a storytelling? I think there's everything now. I mean, I think that's what's kind of so cool is that there are people who are great at dulling. I know friend of ours, you know, forty five minutes stand of specialty told three stories. Now. With any Ori was a ton of funny one liners, but there were three big stories. Then you've got guys who just and women who just tell one liners, and they're hilarious. There's room for everything right now. There's kind of a comedy, boom going on right now, and it's really cool. Put people wanna laugh. They life. We have so many times we get knocked around. We just want to go and just laugh. Oh yeah. I mean, and think about this. You guys will appreciate this. So Janai were performing in Bloomington, Indiana, great campus, beautiful campus. We grew up in Saint Louis. We had a bunch of friends and went there. Watch the movie breaking away. You can't not love that campus. You didn't see that movie and we're there on a Friday and all the kids get out of class, and there are thousands of kids walking around the campus and no one's making a sound because everyone's listening to their ear phones or they're on their phone. Nobody is interacting now. That's not the way it was. When we were at Michigan, you walk through the diag and people like, hey, how you doing everyone's loud buzz of people talking that doesn't. This today. So when you sit in a room full of people at two hundred and fifty, people are collectively laughing as group down on their phones. They're actually interacting to me. That's a beautiful sound and it's something that I kinda losing a little bit. So I think people value at more. What a great point. Do you guys have any reactions when you look in the crowd and sees people that are actually on their phones while you're doing your routine? Makes me so mad. I'm like, why did you come here? Why you're here for this experience, put it away. There's a club in Denver that we're about to go do that at the beginning of the show, they make everyone in the crowd pass their phones low over to them and they zip them up in a bag. And they're like, you'll see these after the show. I'm like, every place should do that everywhere. I think it's big dog. I mean, it's great that you guys to come back to campus and perform. This stands out. It stands out when you go to college, like who were the what were the big performances that I got to see, maybe got to see a concert or you got to see. Comedy or show or whatever. So sometimes I mean, that was I, I was my first experience of ever going to a concert was I think it was, yeah, might have been well, I know Billy Joel was here one time REO speedwagon and I went to the Billy idol. Billy idol grant visit Christ, or you remember it really hill auditorium and REO speedwagon Billy Joel where Chrysler you guys have had to have signed like autographs, like signing a chest or something. Right? Oh, yeah. But mostly on like rock and roll. People don't. Shit. Oh, I was avenue for. I've seen it happen. We we guys a lot of guys come on. Of course, they're like, I've put on a little weight. It'll be like, will you sign these then I'm like, all right. We've all seen it. I, I was at an event where I saw football player. Woman walked the elevator and said, signed. This I says, wouldn't say no. Dexter Manley. So anyway, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, and we appreciate it. I mean, that is really nice and met you saw that like after the show, we're the ones who stand at our merch table and Celtics shirts and partly because we wanna talk to our fans and see what they connected with the most, what they, how do they know where they know us from in and you get a good idea of what they're liking, and it's not a tells you where you need to go in the future, and we just love interactive better call, saw. Better call you back on that can be leaker, haven't come back. We haven't come back yet, but we haven't died. We're not dead. So that's always a good thing. If you're not dead, you can always come back and that was really fun to do. Oh my God, that was fun to do. What are the things you guys working on right now about Detroiters Detroiters. I love that you were on their Jim. You were great yet, so go ahead. You can. Thank you so we so we are. Great. Mixed thing was looking for a little more development. Feedback we've done. We be. Got you. A four episode arc. So we are, we're developing our podcast dump people town into an animated show, an animated comedy show, and we're developing that right now. We're working on stand up doing on podcast and what else ran. I mean this afternoon, we're going out with Seth Rogan's company to pitch a show about the UN like a sitcom about the UN, but was his company, and we're going to pitch it to Lionsgate if they like it. I mean, literally that's happening in an hour. And if they like it, then we'll setup pitches all around town with them to go pitch at the who and Netflixing TBS and everybody's. So we're excited. So we have a big, we have a kind of we have to step it up in about an hour or two and really deliver in Argo. Our goal is to get big enough to get a sandwich named after us at singer men's and to be honorary captain from Michigan. So they go, ooh, that could be the honorary captain could work out that would be great or no box can't speak for the singer men's. We can maybe do it by. My dad and I got on your show. If you just comes through this kind of a walk on in the audience. You're kidding me. First of all, we came up to your dad and we like ambushed him after the game. He was like, who are these guys? And then when he finally realized we said, we're both Tom Brady. Brady was to people. No, Jack, you were so nice does man. It was so nice to meet you in person and. For Jack in myself. Fake you. Thank you. Great. Maybe secretary general the UN and their new in the show catches up. We can have a jacker be good. Get some comedy out of the UN. You are really talented. I fun. You figure it out. We'll figure it out funding Gruber. That's my point. How do you suck comedy out of that group? I'll tell you because you look at a show like beep which we love so much and have a bunch of friends on that show and they did a great job of it. So we feel like if they can do it, then you can do it here as well. Well, good luck. Good luck with that. Before you guys go to make your pitch, what are you looking forward to most for the rest of the upcoming Michigan football season. I mean, here's I, it's funny because I feel we can really feel the team coming together and starting to kick on all cylinders and I'm just, I think that's stretch in the middle of October when we when Wisconsin comes there and then we go to east Lansing and then and state, I personally think we're going to come out of that three zero. And I think there's going to be a whole new level of attention to this team, and I think it's by then we're going to have the confidence and we're going to feel really good about ourselves in a way that that Michigan fans in Michigan football is like in that conversation of of national championship. And I think that's going to be, I just loved what I saw this past weekend. I thought dominant on both sides. Everybody was having fun guys flying around the football field. The crisp ball day was kinda just a perfect perfect day Bessul teams. EP Jay takes it to the house when McCaffrey breakaways. Speed ES it was holding, but was it really holdings. We can say, we won't. We're after the big ten that same question. We try the holy, but I mean breakaway speed. You see him run away from that. That e- back, that was amazing. And that just only gets you excited about the future. So we're excited. Were you definitely we're, we're fold up on Honore captains for this year. Right? Man. Yes, sir. But next year definitely. You guys, you guys are accepting an honorary captain role for next year? Yeah, let's do it. I love to. I don't know. We could get it sandwiches singer miss, but I can do the Brown jug. Brown job. Yeah, we could get parents pick that. Okay. Double cheeseburger. Chips and guac for a million Scott. Actually, three of us actually vote four of of sandwich sandwich or dish over there. So well defined, yeah, jackass, the chicken waffles. Know he doesn't really good. No, I'm. Queue the commercial for the beef met. I am the Italian club. So have you need me for the UN? I'm in short fat guy for the UN. I'm in a lie. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Keep up the great work when you look for to senior u n show on network soon. Thank fellas as eight. Thank you. Oh blue, thank you. This is Jack talk. I wanna listen. I want to be better. I want to be the best. I can be welcome to our team. Jack talk. As you get older, you get to be seventy eight years old. Here's what I find hair grows in places that it hadn't been before. Welcome to hashtag Jack talk. It's not time for everybody's favorite second of the week. Jack talk here attack each day. The Harbaugh's podcast and actually last week was like an extended Jack talk, didn't really have a full, a true focused, Jack top, but we have one for you here today and a Jap. We mentioned it earlier in the podcast. I mean Harbaugh weekends when Jim wins on Saturday and John wins on Sunday, the only the thing that to make sure that Addie wins and little Jack wins and ever and John everybody else Allison's gotta win. So there's a lot of people that have to get involved in. They have to win, but does seems like it was a great weekend for the Harpo. We had a good experience yesterday, Riley crane of freshmen at Georgia. Been there three weeks in school playing on the fall baseball team, and they had their first inner squad scrimmage, and then he had a chance to pitch an inning face. Some of the starters from last year. I think the starting catcher according to Riley was was one of the batteries. One of the hitters he faced in pitched the inning and gave up no runs. So feels pretty good about himself. And when he feels pretty good about himself, we all feel pretty good about himself. So we were happy for him, but I gotta tell you this story. This happened last week. We went to a flag football game. It was Jack's. I experience in flag football, fun. So ravens weren't playing. They had a bye week. So I got the call twelve o'clock for an hour of practice, watching them practice, and then another hour of a game. You know, they were. They were playing another team and we went through it. And and an interesting thing happened had nothing really to do with the with the game. But so I had my little blue chair a little folding chair and the little Cup holder on the right side here and for Riley for for jacks water, the water there. So when he needed water, I had them there and I'm sitting there watching and and and then it comes Jack scores, a touchdown, and Jim had been there, but he had. Left. And so I wanted to get on my phone and call Jim to tell him how proud he would be of Jack. So I get out of my chair and I walked across the track call, Jim, Tim, you you've ran. I expressed the play just the way it when he did a little showboat in the end zone, he tossed the ball up in the end zone and did a fly by through hit. So which for a six year old, you know, kind of caught the crowd's attention so, but I'm explaining all that to him all the so excited. So I'm looking around, I see my blue chair with the Cup in the holder. So I go over and I sit for like five minutes, so time out, Jack get your water. So he runs, all right, Gibbons watering sum lady goes, that's my son's water. That's my son's water in Idaho. My might share. It's a blue chair water holder here, but the bag wasn't there. The bag wasn't there and I realize this might not be my seat. So I got up and I said, well, I'm sorry. I thought that was my seat and they snatched the chair away, you know. And like I was like, I was. I don't know west trying to either. Oh my goodness. I look around and I see my chair on the other side of the tent. Someone wants to move. So I went down. I'm sitting in my chair now and I'm thinking, wonder how the NFL things going. It was about one twenty and ravens weren't playing but see how some of the competition I, I get on my cell phone, but no cell phone cell phone. I can't find it thinking, oh my goodness. I look into bag. It's not there, and I knew I just talked Jim and but I'm not thinking about the blue chair down here and I'm looking around. So I- anyone seen a cellphone, so now there's three or four people, you lost your cell phone. So now they're looking around and going through everything. And now it's, it goes out about six people, eight people. Now there's about twenty five people looking for my cellphone seemed like a long time, but couldn't have been long, some legal, is this your phone and I, that's my phone. She's what we found down here on the ground where the original blue chair was. So I must have laid it down here. So I get my phone. I'm thinking these people have seen me. Lose a chair. Lusophone things aren't going games over well before the game, we only had Jackie had the car. We only had one car for the weekend, so I borrowed a car from Sarah. So I drive the car to the the football field park the car in the parking lot. There's not another car in there. We get. We're there that early. So I parked a car, leave the keys in the car, don't lock it, but leave the keys in the car. So we go to the game. So that gave on, let's go, we're going to the car now. The lot is totally full of cars. I mean, packed with cars and I can't remember. I parked it to the left, parked it to the right park. Did I have no idea where the car is? I do know it's white. That's all it. I don't know what model it is to say, Jack, you know, do you know your car if you see it six years old, I know my car. Well, let's look. So we start walking. We walk up and down and back and forth. People are coming out. You know, the game ended must be tons of people walking by. And we're not. That's not Jack. No, that's no, that's not it. So I sit down on the curb now and call Sarah, Sarah. I know the cars white. What model is it? She says it's the died. It's a dodge car. Okay. Dodge, Jack, we're looking for a dodge. So now we start walking behind all the cars for Chevys, and we're looking. That's not people just flock in bias going every which way. So we go and we and I'm, it's five minutes. So now finally Jacko's he's about fifteen feet away from me. Baba baba. I find our car. I found our car and these people are looking at six. She found this car for the seventy nine hero. And I feel like these people now the people that had seen the whole thing saw me, lose chair. Lose a cell phone and now the man has lost the car. This guy must have seen the best days of his life. They have gone past and I get my car to car. I goes, golly, I gotta bring Jackie. It doesn't. These things don't seem to have happened when she's around me. So that's that was my experience last Sunday. That was your last Sunday, but you're had a win on Saturday before that. And then of course you followed this week with two wins, and so things are coming back around, let's come back around, let's hope. So. Next time keep the key with you and that way you can press the button and you know what I want. Just want to tell you you're the fifty person Jackie. Sarah GM, Andy. That had told me that, so thank I want us this. Thank you here. Thank you for reminding you that you made me feel so much better after telling that story and for you to remind me of that. And we've also learned on this show that if you take the key fob and put it under your chin, it actually gives it more really to find further distance away. We learned that on this show many, many months ago. Golly, you know what? Nah, I've told us that. True. I've actually, I try the day. We heard that for the first time from truecar. I went into the parking lot and I did the regular wouldn't beep. I did under the chin and beeped is really cool. It was a really cool thing. It actually does work. Is this shows you again, if I'd have been paying attention paying attention to that commercial, I might have saved myself some embarrassment. Well, the FAA was still in the car. So. Can't do it without the father. You can't do nothing under the really loud, really got some able to do that. You know, Jack, you recovered. It seems like everybody's happier and everybody's good. So that's always a good thing. Before we wrap up this Jack talk. I was reading an article. I wanted to get your take on this because you've obviously seen the evolution of football on the creativity of offense and the how things have changed because it seems like at times you've gone full circle from before your time when you're like the mad magicians, and it looked like this trick ration- option football that kind of looks like now with Oregon has been running for a bunch of years. So we've kind of come full circle reading an article about the shotgun and how much of a gimmick it was back in the day, and it was truly a gimmick and you. If you use it, it was like a sign of desperation. And then the Cowboys started using it with Roger starbuck and the. But when Roger starbuck was the end of his career, it kind of went away again. And then slowly we came about the shotgun and all of a sudden, what was once a gimmick and you're almost laughed at for using is now using over half of the plays in the NFL well over half the plays in college. And I mean, I don't think anybody would ever even consider calling the shotgun or the pistol for that matter a gimmick. But I guess some things can start as a gimmick and then come back around, you've seen what shotgun is now it obviously, when you were playing when you were coaching was not what it is now. One thing I've learned in football over the years I've coached and been around there is nothing new in football, nothing new football. All you have to do is have a good memory. You looted to it. The single wing back in the forties thirties and forties. That was the offense. And then about one thousand nine hundred forty, a guy came up with the t formation, put the quarterback under center and everybody thought, oh my goodness, quarterback under understand center. Getting a snap from the center was revolutionary and started at Stanford at nearly forties, and then the single wing kind of faded out. And then the t. became then split your ins to get wide formations and. Evolved into into the in the t formation, red Hickey back with the San Francisco. Forty Niners? Yup. Came out with a shotgun. He had three quarterbacks. I can remember. I can remember. I know one was John Brody I believe Billy Kilmer was one of Billy Kilmer was one and I might have the other one. No, I don't, but there were three quarterbacks at played, and then he ran the shotgun they laughed at him. They actually laughed at the guy, and then he went to the forty a went to the Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys with Roger Staubach. Again, this was this is crazy idea. It had no chance of catching on football, and we see where it's volved now is they're probably more people running from the shotgun from in the spread offense running with a quarterback under center. John Brody Billy Kilmer and Bobby waters Bobby waters. Exactly. He became a coach later in one AA, football, very, very successful coach in one AA football. It was actually a an excerpt of book. The book is called the genius of desperation. The schematic innovations that made the modern NFL and the pit. The chapter that I was reading those extra on the Atlantic was air raid. He brings the shotgun and the alleyoop, and so all these names as you're telling them, I'm like, Yep, that's what I was reading and all I told you, I wanted to talk about the shotgun. I didn't tell you the other stuff. So obviously stuff that you really remembered. Was there from fifty nine to sixty three with the forty Niners fascinating article or chapter of a book to see the evolution of the game, and you see how far things have come. It's like watching an old movie. I was watching that will not an old movie, but a movie that portrays old school football was on last week. I was watching the movie school ties or Brendan Fraser's quarterback and he's under center and they're doing all the spinning into this that the other. And I know some the great articles from back in the day would say they call the quarterback, sometimes the spinner and because of how he would what he would do. And it just reminds me of watching, especially in the early stages of what Oregon was doing when the spread the read option stuff was not nearly as popular as now and just you're trying to trick. You're trying to create a advantage in one spot versus another great. It was fascinating and I figured you'd have a take on that with the evolution of the shotgun position defames it really love football. Go back into the forties with mad, magicians. The Fritz Kreisler teams. I mean, deception was unbelievable you. They had. They had a. A single wing, tailback. And then the full-back was right next in like the air now kind of split, you know, like one was a little deeper than the other. They would snap the ball to the to the fullback and he would spin around and then they would have guys crossing in the backfield and trying to find a bowl because his back was to the line of scrimmage in all this deception was going in behind and they would do great jobs of faking so it. It was a fascinating, fascinating offense by hard to defend things are a little different now, but still a lot arts key. The guards, he the guards, say something always take it to the ball. You'd be looking back. They're trying to find the ball. You were in deep trouble. So you always watch the guards, and they would get you every once in a while the guards have pulled, it'd be a misdirection, but but ninety percent of the time you followed the guards, he would take you to the ball. So as as much as things evolve in football, read your keys read your keys. Right? And that's why now, a lot of the section that you see that a coach is trying to do, it'd be like. Jim and coach Warner's coming up with a unique way to use his guards on a play that is not the play they're running just to make you think it's one play and it's actually a different play because you have to read your keys and if your team the fullback better watch out if you're keying running all you got to have to have key breakers in your game plan in order to confuse the defense somewhat regia keys. It's going to take one thing out of this Jack Reed your Nash week. We had fail forward this week. We have adopted, read your case, and it goes back into the previous conversation. Always keep your keys in your pocket. Beautifully done by Fred gimme, accidentally stumbled into that lead your keys to your son. Hold onto your sons. Jack is always a pleasure. You can contact us on Twitter at eighty podcast. Where by using hashtag Jack, talk follows follow, wasn't favorite us on podcast, one dot com. And the podcast one app don't forget the Rados on itunes. 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2019 Michigan Football Preview

Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast

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2019 Michigan Football Preview

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It's our twenty nineteen eighteen michigan football season preview we have extended conversations with special teams coordinator chris partridge defensive coordinator dom brown and new offensive coordinator josh gaddis before we get to coach partridge or minor to please subscribe to us and apple podcast you can listen to the podcast app or on podcast one dot com and please follow us and contact us on twitter at podcast or using hashtag jack talk and now without further ado. Let's get to our football preview. I up jim harbaugh. Jack harbaugh matt dudek myself with michigan. Special teams seems coordinator. Chris partridge joining attack each day the harbaugh's podcast by our special teams coordinator and safeties coach chris partridge here on the show c._p._i. How you doing i'm doing great. It's great to see in the fall camp and pretty excited to finally be that much closer to the start of the season two weeks away here so it's exciting are so let's talk about special teams. You know we talk all the time about go ahead jack in my forty fifty sixty years whatever it is in coaching there's no position. She did all football. That's beta greater evolution positive evolution than specialties back in the old day. He michigan the seventies. It was rehearsal rehearsal time. There was no teaching of individuals skills. It was lineup your kickoff team you line up there. You land up there boom the ball about three times. Get them off off. Now you get a return team out rehearsal. It has come so far and all of those special teams coaches around the country. Take deep house for the the positive evidence that position i would say what's the fun in that a rehearsal we'd like to we like to treat our guys and our special teams like many people like are are covered teams or or a defense right our kickoff our defense and opposition to al and our punt return is a defense you know then it transitions into an offense upon team is like an offense you know it's like formation people put some stress on people so yeah no more rehearsal and you're good player say good players. Some of your starters are mixed into the special teams now as well used to be. You know it wasn't a kind of saved. You're you're. You're talented players for offense defense. Yeah we don't wanna save anybody. We want to go in and be able to win games and on special teams so <hes> we we us guys we mix them all in and of of course depending on how much how many reps they're playing in that game will make sure they're backup on special. Teams is ready to go but yeah we use. We use our starters all over the place there especially the punt team kickoff team those those two those two phases can determine games determine outcomes the games aims and also your your specialists. I mean you want to treat them like snipers and they have to be protected the partner the kicker and the returners. That's right yeah for sure. They those guys you gotta you. Gotta protect them with your life because when you get a good one you wanna keep that guy upright as a head coach standing standing on the sideline that there's three sounds that are dreaded on the punt team when your team is putting its oh they kick and that was not three sounds that you wanted to hear one thump when you're putting the yes that's for sure. You're well back when you got here. Even recruiting kickers they were michelangelo wasn't on scholarship scholarship kickers for years and years and now obviously you're going <music> out and heavily recruiting scholarship guys bringing extra long snappers to give you death. You've battles at long snapper battles at punter at kicker. That's not the common even around the country to have that many really quality bodies at all those important spots yeah we have battles everywhere and they're intense battles but that's what you want because it makes each everyone better <hes> but yeah we right now we are. We got some some fierce competition going in the specialist group so let's start where most people wouldn't expect to start. I want to start with the long snappers because those guys i mean if you're not on the money every single time it throws everything else off so when you watch the long snappers and there's a couple of guys in there that are competing what are all things that you watch to make sure that they are in tune timing everything else that has to happen yeah well. I you know the long snappers the one position shen who is most recently become a specialist right that used to be tight end or a linebacker an old linemen that can just snap the ball in play another position but those guys are now specialist specialists. So what are you watching. We are protection mindset with our long snappers which is different from a lot of colleges. We're pro style punt so our guys not only have to snap and put it on the money but they have to protect as well you know they are involved in the protection so you need some toughness out of the long snapper you know when we are going after somebody. We like some length within the ability to get big. You know some teams will have wide receiver snapping the ball and sprinting down the field. That's not how we operate so right. Now you know we got to long snappers compete and cam a._m. Cheesman and trae harper trae is a fifth year graduate who actually went to kane as a tight end and then transitioned along snapping and he wanted to get involved in a pro style l. scheme because he wants to move on and snap it at the higher level so he came over. She's mine is a is a two year starter right now going into his third year <hes> for us so they're battling. They're getting after it every day. They're taking equal reps and you know it's been really good. Is it possible to split and have one be the long snapper and the other guy be the placekicker long snapper and there are different snaps absolutely completely different snaps ones. Also you know the place kicking long snappers kind of sitting there and getting big and maybe getting run over. He's not you you know stepping in protecting where the punk guy is protecting so you could you could easily have to you could split. It was better than the other. Let me we asked a question on the short snap on the extra point field goal it used to be the the the holder would get the ball and put in an almost twist it to make sure sure the laces or away from the kicker. It appears to me that it's timed up now to world. Most the long snapper could put the ball in the hand. Tell me a little bit about that. Yeah of course yeah i mean we've not only want that thing on the whole there you know in an optimal position to put it down but we want those laces in an optimal position to put them down. That's that's great every single snap we chart every single snap and if the lace is half the be spun that that's nap becomes can go from an a. to a c. so yeah so those those guys just practicing their rotation on their snaps. It's a tobacco you oh yeah because the time you want the times to be fast so you're not getting kicks blocked and you're not getting rushers in the face of the kicker so you know putting the snap on the money and putting the laces on the money will help the time and the other thing. I noticed an approach reason i think here the punters now are holders as well. Are we able to do that or do. We have a special guy holding the ball other than the punter yes yes. That's a great question so we we had a special guy. Hold on a couple of years ago and garett moore's if you remember one i think he'd want holder of the year something they gave him an award <hes> but now our all of our punters are required to hold and then the best one will be up for the holding job but there's other guys that do it. You know we dylan. Mccaffrey holds and is is really good at it. It's just the punters always with the snappers and they're always with the kickers and the pundits have to have good hands to catch the snaps when they're punting being so it just makes sense to have the punter as as a holder chemistry going so you mentioned apptime is the optimal up time for a punt and kick okay so what we want we're looking for is an under a one three on a field goal and then anywhere between two oh and a two one would be optimal on a punt to to to to one. They're not really all that far apart. I know they aren't you guys. Go different in between them. Yes but that's how quick the fans that are listening. They don't actually you just see the pun happen to the field goal kick happen. That's how quick one point two seconds two seconds boom. It's got to get out yeah. Ah seconds usually not one point too. You know it's it's an optimal time usually around one three no no more than one four and a half one five because if it's if it's over one four it's going to get blocked but if it's one two then you might be rushing the whole operation or the kicker kicker might be rushing the kick so it really needs to hit that really good. That's sweet sweet spot there it. There is such thing as too quick of op time especially in field goal situations right because kicker has he's marked. He's marched stems back to a certain pace to know how long it takes to get ball. Guess fascinating stuff. Here's another question on feel goes the the kicker. Does he watch the snap of the ball he does. Ah that is a very interesting question. Yeah so that's debate. That's very debatable across the country across our program and everything does he watch the snap snap or does he watch the spot. It's interesting so it really has to do with a lot of regards guards their upbringing right so if you're a baseball player and you're we used to watch the ball off the bat right so you're a third baseman you know when you're used to watching it all the way through you know you're going to naturally watch that thing through right but other guys who don't play sports like that and and aren't used to the hand eye they wanna watch watched the spot. I think that's what naturally you wanna do and then for us. I feel and i think coach agrees grease. Watching this spot makes it more optimal. You know for us <hes> so that's what we want to train them to do but you know some guys will struggle early transitioning guys that have played sports in hand. I like watching it. All the way through you know pitcher baseball player coming out of the pitcher's hand watching the ball all the way through hand-eye. I will struggle early watching the spot but because of the timing and because you get less stings going through your head if you're watching the spot. I think that's what we like to do. Bill and that's debatable everywhere team you watch n._f._l. Teams half of watch uh spot hatha watch the boston emini half. I think there's like three judge is is the the ball when it's nap of <hes> of baltimore and there's a there's a couple of other really great kickers who do it that way and most of them watched the spot spot and and you know they know to start their approach. When when the when the holders hands go up to catch the ball that's when they as when they start yep but there are some that moody watches the spot yet and quinn watches the ball. They kind of go back and forth. I think it's almost every positional quarterbacks throwing the ball for guys brought up doing it. One way's comfortable and he does it. Well y screw around with it. I'll him allow him that latitude but if he's if he's in a groove and kicking well you don't want to try to the uprise. That's my point. We're looking for when you know you start struggling as as as a kicker right right i mean maybe you start struggling you come in. You're not doing what you want and then we have to be willing to switch that and test them especially when they're young because then all of a sudden he might he might be better the other way. Just never done it so it goes both ways. You know especially with with something like that with your eyes. You know we're not changing his mechanics. We're just changing his. I'd discipline so <hes> <hes> you know. I think that's that's something that you kinda contest out. When they're younger you mentioned jake moody and quinn nordine. How's the kicking battle great. I mean fierce. You know it's it's really good. I think both of them are into it. They're both handling mature. Lee and go for a while here. We're looking to get them. You know thirty to thirty eighty. Five live kicks coming up this weekend and see who the who wins it out. Is there a potential of maybe one of the shorter guy ones along a guy. Will there be a separation. Maybe for a kickoff specialist which we've had in the past well in terms of field goal is. I don't think we're there yet. I think that's something that will you know i'll discuss with coach. If we ever do think in case short verse longer guy but we're not there yet i mean they both have strong legs and you know and are fine from distances kickoff. Yes without a doubt field. Goal on on kickoff are separated in our world. You know if if one guy is better at a kickoff then he's going to take the job. It has nothing to do with whether he's the field goal kicker not so how's the kickoff specialist socialist party goal great same thing here's competition. You know those guys can hit it high. I mean jake kicked up a kickoff yesterday that hit the ceiling are indoor that could have been a four seven and hang which literally would have meant that we would have been on the ten yard line when that guy caught the ball so you know that's he he's he's. He's really coming into zone. There and quinn quicken hit him hit him up there too so they're getting after it in that regard to how does the fair catch rule come into play as far as strategy kickoffs for us we want to run down and hit everybody in sight and pin them within the fifteen yard line and if they fair catch it we want to run by them in the end zone and make them feel us and and and and make them feel less of a man for fair catch the ball if that makes sense so it does not come into any strategy we're going to cover or kicks in practice and and and coach it like they're gonna return every ball and that's just what it is and if they're catching they've forget it. How's the ponant competition again. Get another position where you have multiple guys. That are one guy. That's a preseason watch list for the ray guy award another guy that came into highly ranked recruit a couple of years ago and sounds like he had a really good off-season so between brad robinson will hurt. You have a really lively competition at one or two yeah. It's nice. I mean we'll we'll is kind of taken where he left off last season. He's putting the ball really really really good but brad is come in and healthy now and is putting the ball really really good so that's that's another competition where we'll can't get comfortable. You know he's gotta keep his foot on the pedal and and that's been really good to see two and then of course curtin yes we got. We have a third guy who strong like red shirted last year as a walk on and has a very very strong legs well yeah. He's in that mix as to do. You find a find a balance of how much each guy punts on a daily basis. I know the n._f._l. Level they use the jugs machine a lot because a deadly. You don't want to overwork do you does that. Come into play or do you just have enough bodies to punt for us. We have enough bodies to punt you know the interesting. Thickening about punting is well number. One is i like to be more on the aggressive side of getting them to punt you know and still be cautious about a dead leg but they can. They can pump more balls than some people are distinct they can but we it's very important for us is to get the returners catches part. Returning is a specialist and it's really really hard to catch upon in the big house with the wind going with people bearing down in any stadium stadium so our puns are really rotated through so that they're putting the number of punch that they have aren't only for themselves. It's a make sure that our attorneys. They're all getting a certain amount of catches a day. When i was here at michigan i was the punt return guy secondary coach and taught them that is a tremendous skill <music> always love those baseball players they could they could track ball and the interesting thing is use the jokes all the time and you don't really get a good picture. You kinda the tip of the ball. If i'm telling me wrong ball goes up up up the point of the ball is up is going to come down straight down and you you can almost read the ball off the foot and tell our listeners something about that well. It's a big skill for for a punt. Returner is reading hanging off the foot like you said tip of the ball up. It's going to come down. You know we face a lot also punters who will roll move bill and over end the rugby it you know they'll curve it for some punters to come back in <hes> in curve it back away from you you know so if the tip is is up and then comes down away from where the puck is located foot located. It's curving away from you so there's a lot to read especially with the teams that we face. I mean we looking into it for this year. We're facing seven vastly different types of punters when we're talking about a righty left rugby lefty rugby a righty eighty role partner a guy who can directional to the left directional to the right. You know a guy. You know that could cook it back on you so we're we're training them for all that stuff. It's nice for a guy like carrots and he's really taking huge steps in china mock those guys but developing a type of punt that you know maybe guy it will face do for our return but now you're like wow this guy can actually execute that type upon if he goes in this guy interestingly enough returners this year christmas having read the back end of the ball that's right and it's really taken them to take him to the ball yup tracking the nose tracking tracking the back half of the great point only early a great point because the nose does not tell you the whole picture right. It's the back half of the ball that tells you the whole picture. Fat ball comes up. It's it's really sales turns over and the back. The tip of the ball is up that thing is you have to stay back on you better back with other ways it. It could be a fifteen twenty yard distance in just what you're talking about. The back tip of the ball worried is we're gonna. We're gonna come down sam cooke. I'm sure are you familiar with the ravens. Yes the different number of punts that he does the the conventional the the the role all over the thing down on the goal line where dividends comes back at you and then he's got one to the right hook line nine area and hooks and even kind of slice it to the leads his foot and a punt returner back there. I mean you got so many things. You have to look forward to be able to re data. I would think yeah there's no doubt i mean the main thing when you go back a punt return that we're gonna we're gonna read is he's going to know what type of punt facing that we write right the second thing is the tilt right so some punters aren't good enough to directional punt without getting a hard tilt on it right so we're going to read the tilt but but once it goes from there so you're going to have in your mind. Hey he's tilted to the left. You know i'm facing a rugby planner facing a guy who can roll and a guy who can liz liner honor it so maybe if he's a liner guy where normally you'd read the tilt and you'd walk six seven yards. You'd only walk three yards until you can get a read on the ball so there's a lot a lot more that goes into punt returns punters say facing college you better get and the rugby punters in college you mean no they'll roll and they'll kick it. All the way later the opposite numbers kick it back left right and they trying to get the big bounce and roll down the field on the turf. That's interesting <hes> out back. In the old days we had a long guy and then we had a i st- off to his right about two yards in about you know about ten yards closer for those kicks at kind of returners especially on that on the the rugby type kick that that thing could be kicked short and roll twenty-five thirty yards on you as your returns to deep yep so we did a big study this off season in a tudor turner turner looks and we studied some teams that have done it and done it well so we're we're looking into that pretty heavily here as well you know to to mix it up a little bit fascinating for let you go just for the fact that eliciting them sure they're curious about some of the names we know some of returners lake donald people's jones on the guys that are in the mix on punt return and also kick return yeah so our part return guys right now. Obviously you mentioned donovan. He's been doing it for a couple of years. Ronnie bell mikey sandra. Still you know those guys'll avert hail doing a good job back there mike barrett who is actually a linebacker but he's might be the most smoothest back there to catch the ball so guys like that are all back their department. Turn and kick return. It's ronnie bell. It's mike sanders still. It's <hes> andrew thomas. It's giles jackson. It's taxed. I inhale. It's christian turner michael barrett again. Those guys are all back. They're catching kicks it one thing that <hes> dis- quickly before the core special teams guys and you know being around the ravens and watch an practice day about seven guy that our core special teams guy. He's in the play way. In the league about seventy eight nine years bay never have a starting role on that particular play and just play special teams guy guy. I know we have some guys like some of the guys that you might might mention as being those kind of core special teams guys yeah i mean those are the guys that just are gritty and can and do it. All i mean i'd i'd be pressed to find a better special teams guy in the country jordan glasgow we had bond mingo here with us i in december and he's now the coordinator of the lions and he was like blown away by jordan glasgow every practice on special teams you know he's probably told me not to tell anyone but he said i'm coming to get that guy next year but you know so. He's the one that you stands out because he does it all right every practice every drill every rep it's he understands understands how to play in space blocking space and do everything that we ask you know kick return return and all that stuff <hes> nate shanley's a really really good special teams player that you would consider a core special teams guy that maybe is not even a starter on the team. You know we lost one last year. In brandon watson who you know will probably find in a really good home with the jaguars as a as a core special teams guy and then other than that. I mean guys up and coming. Mike barrett what will be known as a core special teams guy guy in this upcoming season. Cam grown is a guy who who who's been turning. Heads is one of those guys you know really a young guy that you know i'm fall all in love with on special teams right now zac chardonnay. He's just been really really good on all that stuff. <hes> you know on special teams so we got some of those guys and those guys just eat breathe. Drink love it. They just come in and they can't get enough of all the scheme and everything what back when i was your don dufek. He's an ann arbor. Pioneer guy played here for us for three years as a starter plate on the university of michigan hockey team went to the seattle seahawks strong safety there seven eight years started. Maybe once or twice special teams guy every single year for seven years on the last cut don do fact was cut from the seattle seahawks and it happens so often when he got cut they had a party for him saying goodbye to him because in two or three weeks he would be back. I need finish finish up the season. He was one of those guys at played enough to peci living in ann arbor now in the construction business one of my all time favorite player so he would've the ban on one of your guys. I promise you gonna say that. I mean you can really tell the commitment the team that a guy has based on his willingness to contribute on special teams as either a frontline or on one of the one of the teams or as a as a scout. Give a look <hes> player in practice as opposed to the player that i i don't wanna play special teams. There's no doubt catch balls or and we don't we don't have many guys on his team at all that that won't start at least on one even if their starters no matter or who they are you know we you know this pretty much every person through and through unless you're an old lyme and d. lineman and quarterback or getting in on at least one special i i've really been privileged with the ravens to sit on their it in on this graph meetings i mean they're getting like two or three weeks away from drafting drafting day to be able to sit in there. I want to know every single player that goes up on the board. There's going to be a question. Does he. Play special teams. We'll he plays. Can he play and i'll guarantee when they say yes his name board they say no. The name comes down the board. There's no doubt one hundred percent. I feel remiss not to say one name. When you talk about a special teams ben mason we got we got to say that name because is he plays a lot of different things and you know he kind of started taking reps at the d. line in the spring and he came up to me one day and you know he's always intense. Always seriously goes coach. I'm i'm playing special teams all right then you got it. Can you see it as two hundred tel aviv commitment to his team by his willingness to play special. Would you like to be on on the the two kickoff. Return team and your i've got number forty two hundred seventy five that will be happening to people and i got a man up to him on about the twenty five yard line and blocking. That's not going to be a fun time. I won't be fun time for anybody to highlight this much. They're spending. There's some highlighting special teams because they are that important a game or we'll talk offense defense special teams the hidden yardage and the field position game and it can a game can flip on on a dime because the special teams and you guys are doing great and looking forward to seeing your special teams out on the field very soon. I appreciate it. Thanks thanks chris hello. This is jim harbaugh from the a._d. Podcast tell you that when my wife shops for jewish she goes to louis. Jewelers lewis jewelers been in ann arbor three generations david the owner great guy designer honor watches designer jewelry like tag watches. Did you ever get to watch coach. No my wife doesn't shop for me at lewis jewelers shops for herself and i would imagine because it is no commission very informal you walk in there not tuxedos and ballgowns trying to jam something down your throat. Sarah gets to walk in look around the helper. 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Stay the harbaugh's podcast michigan's defensive coordinator coach brown house fall camp bowl camps going great. Everybody's everybody's bouncing around with little getting better every day. So life is good in arbor so fall camp. It's about you know guys that you've seen play a lot stepping into new roles. Maybe some new faces establishing some depth and creating new jobs for themselves. I'll start up front where you do have some fresh faces and some some guys that are coming back on the outside up front sounds like the three guys in particular with <hes> with quitting pay with aidan hutchinson and a newcomer might dana that you have three ends that you can rotate an an wouldn't even bat eyelash would miss a beat. Those guys are certainly talented experienced veteran the players that are complete defensive end types. Each one's a little bit different. A knob asli is bigger stronger guy but <hes> <hes> i think coach would agree is his athleticism at side at six six. Two hundred eighty pounds is impressive. <hes> mccourty pay another guy. That's really <hes> you know up to to seventy eight <hes> might be the best technician as a spread red defensive end i've ever been around in terms of dealing with <hes> spread runs and quarterback play and you know denting connors honors and he's just a a valuable guy to the open side because those guys can get out athlete didn't hurry and he's a tough guy to do that with and mike dana. It's kind of you know a guy that can play both sides for us and we're bringing luigi vilain along and <hes> east had good moments not there yet but he's had some really good moments and we're playing joshu chair there as well josh suchet's men i very impressive off the edge to he can drop he can he can he can come in in different different positions but <hes> he's been impressive of off the edge and then it's all something the other day to that was talking about eight and hutchinson and his athletic abilities. He's what six six six six seventy six seven he was <hes> he was rushing around the end and was really bandon well and then going down down and you gave him the coaching point of touch and go explain that the touch and go 'cause it was to watch him. Do it was pretty impressive. Well <hes> if usually really if you if you go up to an offensive lineman and you just put your hands on them. They'll tend to stop and when they get stopped in their tracks. That's when you got a chance to accelerate and go buy them and <hes> you know that's. That's really what you want is get your hands on them as fast as you can and then get them off and india rip moving year hopefully accelerate near the quarterback i way off. I'm way off. I thought it would aid came around. He bent run. It was a speed rush. I got it. I got the wrong. I must have the wrong for you. How you going down he touched and then kept going into his. That's the dip and drive. Yes so driving didn't push push push off the ground. You know i think we're doing draw dip and dr back shaun nua defensive line coach. I think is doing a good job with a lot of the <hes> with the movement stuff and obviously asli when a guy six foot seven down and literally put his hand on the ground turned the corner and bounce right back off off the pressure that he and that's it's a big deal and <hes> both of those moves equally as effective in and both require athleticism for sure out surprise is he can do that and that got the quarterback with the guy's a defensive outside rusher does he have won two moves moves does does he have more than that or i know we always talk about. He has this moving that move and the other movement but what's the what's your philosophy on that well. I'll up tell you it's interesting because some guys that's their whole problem. They just come off the ball you know and they're they're basically down the middle of the offensive lineman. They're bull rushing the guy as we call it and don't have a move <hes> and you gotta develop start not somewhere usually most. It's the rip <hes> you know it's the long arm depending and then some guys that can run really well. You know oh you teach them to speed the power move but you gotta have one. Maybe two then you're counter and a lot of that has to do is in atomic. Take you a long arm guy. Will maybe the stabs your best move if you're more of a short arm guy but a powerful guy speed the power but you gotta you gotta have one may and plus the counter and <hes> you know trying to trying to get the guys to do that in a three second span the and against an offensive lineman usually termine success or failure for that guy i saw i was watching the lions patriots the other night i i saw chase do the move or kind of kind of what right addy and then he kind of made a move and then back inside he came for for a sack takeout move off of a move off of a move to staff today the chase maybe leaving the n._f._l. Impressions right now in the preseason. He's is an impressive guy. <hes> the thing you know coach knows this. I mean you don't have to worry. If you're going to get a good day's work out of that guy 'cause you're going and get a great day's work and everything he's got. You're going to get i still to this day marvel on the purdue game. It was miserably hot and hey. We're going to spell your here. No you're not getting get him. So guy who came back and played in the bowl game. Arctic seems to focus on the ones that didn't focus on the positive chase winner came back <hes> played in that ballgame and <hes> even the thumb in the yup them in the cast the gotta give him credit gave us. His best effort came back for a fifth year used all his eligibility things. Have it worked out really well for chase. I remember him going back to that. First year you were here and <hes> he was just a two hundred and fifteen pounds line skinny skinny going back. I don't think he had the log hair then we had the oklahoma drill run though he could run run now and he was athlete but they had the oklahoma drill and he happen to match up and i can't remember the guy but he was one of our best inside linebackers it was going to be a one on one with jason this guy and and the linebacker was named ain't player and they have a match up and boom and chase put him down actually put him down guy jumped. I want you again and yeah. I watch again. I i swear he got him again and i thought to myself. There's something about this guy that i really like kind of sticks with you you the first year that he played for us. In seventeen defensively he sixteen. He was good good. He added we could get them into games as a pass rusher. I think that gave them a degree of confidence so seventeen gene we we got a really good effort out of him in eighteen obviously a tremendous effort out of him so happy for him. I was reading today. The rams were <hes> <hes> talking about defensive back david david long as out with him in the head coach very very glowing comments about his his play and how well he matches up man to man and the short burst and and flip in his hips and doing all kinds of different things all the things that we saw here obviously <hes> short area quickness. That guy had it all he really did. Another guy played in the bowl game. The guy played in a bowl game. They gotta steal the rams. They gotta steal with him. In the third round the best note taker i've ever seen in the classroom as a defensive back well unbelievably impressive impressive guy. Some of those guys don't learn that they go to the pros. I'll run into an ed reed or someone this guy for him to pick it up as a college football players impressive very impressive. Let's get back to the defensive front. We talked about the ends a little bit. What about the matchups in the battles inside. You have a lot of different bodies for guys that can play defensive tackle different responsibilities rotate depending upon what looks you're giving who are the guys that are in the right now and how's that competition going to start at three technique donovan jeeter really happy with the way he's playing. He's a physical guy. <hes> can run. <hes> is really <hes>. You know really come into his own over the last. Ask you know few months and happy with the campi said he's been getting. He's been consistently good yep going all the way back back to spring ball yeah so he's won. We've moved ben mason near fulltime and he's at the three technique as well and you know. You don't have to worry about what kind of day day's work. You're going to get there. Just he puts his hat on. He goes to work. He runs he doesn't stop and he's really still in the process of learning and defensive tackle but you know starting to utilize his strength and his ability to run. You know he's another chase win of its type in that you know he's gonna chase the football and do all the things you need this chris hidden as a young guy. <hes> is starting to housi- to put together. Mazi smith has put together some really good practices yes and a lot of improvement from carlo camp. He's probably if you said to me. Who's the most improved guy on the defense. I'd i'd say it's carlo camp <hes> running much better. <hes> you know he had a he. He always had a scenario where he he put his head. In the middle of stuff off. Now you know he strong enough to be in there and endurable enough to utilize his hands and is really made an impact inside and is running much better. He's probably benefited. I think the most from ben herbert being here he he should give them a kiss on ellipses coach. What's you talk about a three technique in a knows. What would you look for in those two positions. Well <hes> <hes> you're looking for the big powerful guy <hes> you know guys that have short area quickness that can really get off on those first two steps and the nose has to be a little bit more of a of a bigger guy because he has to deal with a lot of the combo blocks just the way people block the four three defense. You know he'll get a lot of center guard blocks on him whereas the three technique you know. Will you want that guy to be able to win the one on one battle with the guards soda. You know keep it in those terms. <hes> you know you gotta got a he knows has got to be a little bit more of a of a stouter guy but we're getting good play from carlo. We're really happy with the way him mazi smith you know will will we can kick jeeter over there. Mike duomo four of course <hes> is <hes> a big strong the guy that can play both inside positions as a veteran knows them well so we think we're well equipped inside a couple of hours. Just talking about some of those other guys have gone on <hes> brian. Monet is yeah has a really good chance to make <hes> the fifty three in seattle. I'm hearing <hes> as well as <hes> brandon. Brandon watson great has moved over to safety getting these getting some versatility corner and safety and another talked about earlier with chris <music> brandon watson and his specialties values so yeah brandon watson was a valuable guide to us last year i think what do we have to go to two touchdowns. Ah yeah interception returns for touchdown and <hes> you know had a very very solid year and <hes> you know obviously happy for all those guys uh linebacker position some new faces obviously devin bush played a lot of football but some new faces but it sounds like at the two middle spots at the linebacker position. You have a lot of guys you guys are really happy with that can rotate or give you a lot of added depth at the at the two linebacker positions in the middle. Yeah you know the mike position is a valuable position for us. In terms of a guy that has leadership qualities a guy that that can go sideline to sideline but he also has to be stout enough to you know philly inside run lanes <hes> you know and there's very few devon bushes in the world that can run you know sub four or five and two hundred and twenty five pounds but that being said josh ross has chat an excellent camp after missing you know i'm sure it was frustrating him. Virtually the whole spring may coach and he's had a good camp <hes> this camera grown were kind of rotating him at the two positions mike and will thing i like about cam as he does have the ability to run on in. He is in the four or five area so <hes> you know he's a guy. Go ahead. Run the wheel route on him. 'cause he'll run stride for stride with you. Devin devin gills a veteran guide knows how to play. This game is played. A lot of michigan football makes no mistakes and you know sharp jordan jordan anthony. <hes> is one of the backup mike. He's about two hundred and forty three pounds. He's in great shape. <hes> has taken a a lot out of repetitions and we believe he can go in and give us a solid effort and then the last guy kinda held on was glasgow jordan glasgow glasgow who it kinda does a lot of things for us. We've gotta majoring at the will linebacker position again another guy that can run fast you can match up with tailbacks and out the back door and <hes> but he can also move over and play viper he can he can do some of those <music> <hes> pass rush <hes> package jobs that we kind of look for that swiss army knife type guy that can line up at a number of position and so really happy with the way he's been <hes> been playing in keeping it all in order and worse came to worse if something ever happened to clean cuts and he could he could move over there in a minute and play great football the one thing back in back in the seventies when when we were here i are linebackers were two hundred forty five pounds. I mean those big thick. Guys probably did run. Maybe a four eight type thing and they step up the isolation and do those things and you see tremendous mendes transition now because of the spread offenses and wide open football and even in the pros you see guys were college. Strong safeties are kind of moving into the linebacker linebacker position in nickel and dime type type position situation. Have you felt that same thing about the evolution of that position especially with you know with with the spile a defense fence that we play and and the styles of offenses that we're seeing with all the all the stress on the perimeter you know the more guys you can have run into the football that that have quality speed that can match tailback on the perimeter of the better off yard and we're fortunate we think we got five guys guys that are very very capable of giving us an honest day's work and doing a quality job and still be able to play those teams that pound that ball action. They gotta get ready for wisconsin. You gotta get ready for michigan state so they got to be able to get their nose dirty when it needs when they need to the other linebacker position of course chris you mentioned khaliq hudson is your viper and i and i kind of what i assume that he's ready to explode back to the form that we saw maybe two years ago and just is it really be one of the leaders of your defense. Yeah you know the the thing that was really difficult <hes> early in and i thought it kinda times kind of changed last year. You know he called for too early. Targeting penalties. I think that really impacted his aggressive aggressiveness as a player <hes> and it took him a little time to get back up to full speed plus. He's you end up missing the better part of two plus games so he's back flying around playing with a lot of confidence you know is coverage abilities a vastly improved. He's in great great shape <hes>. I think he has every you know. If you ask our defensive players i think he has everybody's attention and <hes> you know again a guy guy. That's probably benefited. I'm glad you know there was some discussion. Maybe does he come out. Doesn't he. Come out. He made a great decision. He's back. He's going to have a great year. How about the rest of the viper position a lot of the names vine him as there's not a lot of experience other than jordan they can slide over there at the fiber glass can slide over in jump in there in a heartbeat heartbeat because he knows that he's played it and and we've he's played it in games for us. <hes> michael barrett which we've made a fulltime commitment at that that position to and we recruited anthony solomon who is a freshman forced schools just get done with the bridge program and and we've. We've been really happy with the way <hes> you know. His athleticism is outstanding. He'll benefit greatly from playing special teams that will give him a tremendous amount on a confidence moving forward in a year in the weight room. We think we've got a pretty special player there and then of course there's a secondary couple of names that we all know that are back. Josh mattel's l. safety leverett hill at corner. You have some starts to replace but again a position. Where seems like there's a lot of a lot of opportunities a lot of bodies and guys that are out there competing. Whether it's vincent gray eh corner spotter numerous guys including brad hawkins at the safety spot. I think brad hawkins is surprise back there. I think he's playing at a tremendously tremendously high level <hes> he can cover slots. He's tough enough to get in the run game. He can play play the deep <hes> middle third. He can do a lot of things for and <hes> and has really learn the position. <hes> you know he's a guy we've just kind of kept their at one position and let him hone his skills both technically fundamentally and schematically so <hes> we we've got a good player. They're very confident in his abilities and he josh mattel us a really the true safeties and generic woods is matured greatly. We have role for him. You know we have things that we know that he's going to do for us in the game and <hes> you know if he has to play significant minutes at safety. We're very uncomfortable with that. <hes> if you asked me who the fourth guy is probably taxed and heels made a move has lined up pretty cleanly low the last two days as a practice and really functioned on his own and we've been we've been wanting to see that and he's he's every bit as advertised. He's going to be an outstanding standing up player for us and excited to see him grown now that you know summer bridge program is over for those guys so we think those as for the guys kind of man that position you mentioned vincent gray. He's a real deal guy. <hes> you know he's really come into his own. He's a physical performer. <hes> liberty hill is you know had a tremendous camp has stayed healthy and as provided leadership for a guy like vincent gray <hes> we got angry back running around so we're excited about that and <hes> you know we just think those guys jalen kelly powell's really stabilized and doing a good job in that second level but we know we can get significant minutes got to him and and feel good about the minutes that we do get a flu standpoint and just being around and watch it if i were high school core <hes> cornerback or high school safety and i'm looking around the country. I'm one of the top guys i'm looking around. There's only one school that i would look at that as a football player once twice three times and that's the university of michigan for two reasons style of defense you play but they they walk in here. I mean they're gonna to learn to play press. Coverage coverage are going to learn how to move their hips or learn how to get their hands on people. They're gonna learn how to run. They're going to learn how to be patient. They're going to learn how to look at the next play when things don't go well and the same the same with the <hes> with the safety and the other thing is the coaches back their origin and chris partridge and i see again the comments that was made about david long out but the way he comes in he he is a seasoned coached corner earner and our safeties that have come out in here and and i- tribute to you the style defensively play and and the individual coaching that they get into the secondary. We're you know obviously <hes> especially with the advent of the r._p._o.'s and how everybody's kinda gone to that <hes> we think an and plus we do think it fits our athletes. I mean we could sit here and say well. We want to play this particular style but then you have guys that that can't can't measure up athletically. That's a concern so then that forces you to do other things. Maybe that you you quite don't wanna do you know after having a discussion with coach in the spring you know moore's more so in a we're playing several different concepts that are new to us this fall and and mixing them in and and obviously we're hoping that just makes makes us more multiple and tougher to defend but getting back to the comment it bureau great defensive back michigan's a great place. This is your place right here. Speed of defensive backs as football seems to get even more specializes. There's there's all the different looks and you want to get more speed in the field of different times nickel might as well be at twelve starter if you're playing a more traditional style defenses. You're starting nickel mines. It'll be a starter so how does the nickel position like for you guys and what are the differences that you look for. Maybe in a nickel back vs an outside corner well. A nickel guy has to be able to cover the number two receiver their number. One route is to slant their number to route is the vertical and if a guy can't do those two things you're out so that's you know keep it simple. <hes> we've got what we think are three guys that are that are doing a pretty pretty darn good job when we call on the nice thing is when it can n._b._a. Safety boy that's a big deal because you don't have to mess surround in base defense and brad hawkins says shown the ability and josh mattel us to be able to do that and do that at the high level then the crazy thing is taxed in hill is also a safety and he's able to do that that we believe believe at a high level now he's still in the learning process but he's starting to figure it out and and there's no question all all three of those guys are excellent press. You know <hes> slot defenders. We plays what we call. Scoot technique. They're all three of them can do it and if we get a tough match-up. We move vert hill. There and lights pretty still pretty good quick story <hes> secondary coach for twelve thirteen years. That's kind of my go-to position for me and played ohio state one here. I think it was nineteen. Seventy seven will hold onto my wife after the game. I said jackie not i have to be the greatest secondary coach. Maybe that's never coached a game and she said why. Do you say that. I said you realize hieaux state. Today did not complete a pass. It's not one past that they complete and she said that's true jack but they only through three and they were all hail. Marys attended again so raise. He's my race my status and she knocked me down to who i truly am well day. We did good day question. Well coach greats catch up with you. Keep up the aggressiveness looking forward to seeing you guys out there on the football field coming up with the home opener. Thank you very much brown up next new michigan offensive coordinator. Josh gad us here on attack. Each day. Dr podcast make sure to stick around after this podcast to get the latest headlines from the a._p. News who's minute attention sports fans award winning sports columnist and e._s._p._n. 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How excited you to get out there and call some plays and senior guys. Put your offense out onto the football very excited. I just think got you know where we are. Offensively really excited about. <hes> you know the potential that we have you know i think we've got a special group of young players. They done an unbelievable job and camp. <hes> execunet cnet a very high level. They're at that point now where they're ready to hit somebody else ready to run plays against everybody else and so <hes> you can see the intensity raising in practice. Listen <hes> we'll look forward to being able to execute it level on saturdays in the future coach when a guy comes in and takes over a program so you're on your fifth year. It takes a lot of really established depth. Is that across the board recruiting. There's hits and misses guys all the things that happen. It seems like especially in the offense aside that the depth the quarterback wide receiver lever tight end offensive line. You can go through all the positions that the depth this year on offense. The tools that he has to work with is the best. It's been since you've been here. I think so yeah i think <hes> josh and the other coaches have done a great job. I mean there's the system that we have <hes> but also putting the players in a position to be successful in using their or skill set to to be successful and the amount of things that that <hes> joshua staff have have <hes> <hes> have <hes> installed <hes>. You really gives gives the players that opportunity to do what they do. Well i mean there's now. I want to give away anything before we before we play a game but you see the titans evolve you see the wide receivers involved the backs and the involve quarterbacks involved golf at what they do well <hes>. It's a it's a it's a great system. Guys have done a really great job. Learning our coaches have done a great job coaching. There's <hes> <hes> watching some real exciting stuff in practice so far this camp when you took the job that you know everything happened so quickly when the job when it when it happened. When did you realize the talent level whether it was the quarterback room or the other rooms how much talent that you're going to have at your disposal. Yeah i did actually just obviously my familiarity in the conference uh spending four years at a <hes> at a conference rival or another school and in the conference i was on a lot of losing a lot of into losing battle in the recruiting world. You know just a lot of familiar players. You look at the amount of guys that have been in the region. You know clean cuts in the michael. Kors lavar hails dell's guys that had a lot of you know just folks some defensive guys but even offense players familiarity recruit knows players and unfortunately <hes> didn't come out on on the winning side of the recruiting battles so i've known throughout the years that <hes> you know you have tremendous amount of respect as well as <hes> michigan was always attained that you know frighten me the most you know as a as an opposing coach because you know you knew how talented they won't be how well coached they were going to be and so <hes> when this opportunity presented itself <hes> i i have so much respect for walls built here in the program that we have in the players that we have the i knew exactly you kind of walk in that you know we were going to have really <hes> tough and talented players but also players that had great disciplining wanted to be great student athletes not just on the field but off the field what when you were at alabama you play against mississippi tippy and shape patterson was you did you look at 'em across the field. Well shahid already left at that point <hes> so i didn't have any experience with him but <hes> <hes> let's just say i guess michigan five times throughout my coaching career now and i'm an only on the winning side of that deal so obviously obviously some tough battles <hes> but even coming here coaching in a big house you know i've been able to coach here the big house three times <hes> <hes> and so you gain tremendous amount of respect for michigan by the way they handled themselves on the field and how hard they battled on one other thing this r._p._o. The only thing i mean i had no r._p._o. Until about a year and a half ago is was a buzzword to me. I had no idea what they were talking about. How were oh you introduced to it and and how if you <hes> have you been able to work through so really. It's all about who you ask you know as far as the r._p._o. World <hes> burton burns. Who's a longtime college assistant <hes> when i got to university alabama last year it burns said r._p._o. Stanford run people over that was <hes> a different take on it. You know it's far as the definition of r._p._o. But really this base foundation really got introduced in me from joe moorhead who's a tremendous friend of mine and mentor <hes> when joe was able to bring his system in and taught me that system was heavily predicated on on the run pass option that you give and when people say r._p._o. We not only talking about you know second level reads but you know we encounter first second and third level reached for quarterbacks and you know really the ideal the principle behind it is being able to put the defensive conflict <hes> being able to try to find a way to plus one year numbers because as we all know every defensive coordinator they wanna try to plus one you put an extra guy down in the box but now you gotta make them play discipline a discipline style of a football and and be accounted for in every gap and every man on the field and so what did they do is able to create advantages from numbers and angles to get in your guys out in space whether that's by <hes> scheme or by concept <hes> but it complements mature run game and those two are married together <hes> and that's something that i really believe in having your past game complimentary run game and even in our r._p._o. Jio game they married together so the number of runs in a particular game to number of passes depend as much how they line up on defense as to what you call call from the press box absolutely absolutely there's no <hes> there's no certain number where you say hey look you know they do the ball thirty times a game and you think maybe it's thirty dropbacks dropbacks but you don't know it's predicated based on what the defense does and so <hes> <hes> you know we'd like to schematically define aggressive ways to benefit our run gain. There are times when we choose the r._p._o. World to benefit our pass game <hes> what i really kinda consider. It's kind of eliminate your short passing game. You know your quick game kind of goes away because it's kind of all built in there together but <hes> our guys have done unbelievable job like say coaches. I've done a really good job on <hes> installing everything especially with our quarterbacks. <hes> you know they've got a great field. They got a great <hes> got good timing a great hips and great release <hes> benefits those guys as well and so <hes> in which you also also see for our own line and also cleans up the picture there blocking the six that they should block or the five that they should count if the tight ends involved and so <hes> you've seeing this trend now throughout the n._f._l. Kansas city chiefs. They're heavy r._p._o. Tame the indianapolis colts. I mean you're starting to see this trend grove the rams or the rams hamster the rams sprinkled in it a little bit last year <hes> but the chiefs were one of the one of the leading teams. You know i think they were almost fifty. Percent of of their ron's had some kind of tag tag on it last year and so you see it working itself from high school to college to to professional level and everyone's being able to execute it at a high level so let's go to the quarterbacks is quarterback. Gets the snap on an r._p._o. And depending upon what your call is he's got a read somebody so then he has to decide right between handing it off or keeping. That's the first option that he has the second. One is the next option going to be. I guess it depends on the player. If he keeps it to run versus he has like two or three different reeds to throw it not too much as far as giving away our scheme of things. We do it all everything you know. You may even see him back there. In the wishboned. I'm uh-huh options are available trying to fan an idea of how much quarterback has to read and decide and think all on a really quick period of time and maybe it's it's he made the decision that leads to the second decision which might lead to a third decision and how quickly that well the thing we like to do is is we package our place and when we teach two quarterbacks we make sure their rules are simple as possible but you got to build your rolls around everything you know man coverage rules pressure rules walked up linebackers roles and what i've found is since coming here. We've made our rules even better because of all the different things that we go against our defense defense you know when you're trying to install an r._p._o. Base scheme verse our defense and all the different pressure packages that that don likes to bring you know whether it's three down four down all guys splits in all guys mugging you really have to sit back and reevaluate all your rules that you're that you're telling your lime and telling your quarterback and our our offense coach staff has done an amazing job. We have a system that is really unbreakable. You know are there times. When maybe you can read things wrong or re things right. Yes you know that comes with the game of football decision making <hes> but we try to make it as simple and easy on our quarterbacks as possible to allow those guys to play confident allows guys play fast and most importantly allow all those guys to run our offense efficiently point back way back in the seventies and we're here with bo offense was very similar to what ohio state date ran our defense was very much similar and the reason for that in both thinking was that's team. We have to be and the team. We're going to practice most against ourselves. We knows days you had the twenty full padded practices in the spring then you got two weeks of full padded days in the fall so in essence you're practicing with our system of offense now in offenses at our defensive sees and the way things are going on the defensive side of the ball. I think we're we're. We're doing that in preparation to play games playing ourselves. Yeah i think we i think we are and our biggest advantage on offense as being able to go against such a talented infants everyday in practice <hes> they truly make us better <hes> but you know the thing that you'll get a chance to see and as always say this is a pro spread and coach kinda hit on it. We do everything we do any and everything and really kind of build it around what our players do best in every game plan can be different. You know it's not necessarily hey. You know ten plays that we run that show up every week. You know we really build package. Those plays around okay. How do we attack opposing defenses in their weaknesses and i think that's one of the things that gives us. An advantage anuj is how much of a variety of plays that we run now obviously early on when you're trying to install such a cute playbook kinda can be a learning process there but <hes> we're to that point in our kids fully in firmly understand it to coach has done a really good job installing it and now you're able to go out and see executed at a high level what they have impressed with two and josh is also a great receiver coach is just that there's a place for there's a place for the tall receiver that i can go up and get the jump ball and and catch the catch the balls across the middle but there's also a place for the quick receive the compla- in the slot and get down the fielder builder gained separation <hes> in the middle through quickness and speed and that's <hes> we've. We've got a pretty good complement right now of of those different receiver types. I think you've you've done a tremendous job of looking at each skill set of their seaver improving in every single area what they do but also incorporate those <hes> those different body types and and <hes> and quickness tapes <hes> into the offense yeah the the room that <hes> you know. I was fortunate enough to take over. I think is the perfect ideal room for this offense and what i believe. I don't believe in the cookie cutter approach you gotta have a variety and coaches done in mazing job recruiting receivers over the years. We've got big guys. We've got small guys who got athletic and skill guys in this offense allows you to do is move those guys around and play him in all different positions <hes> when we teach and install the offense we teach it by schemes so schematically they have to learn you know they have no what feel feel one is going to feel three doing because the formation can change you just can't be focused and locked in to what the tight end coach is telling a tight end when he's flexed out <hes> or or ignore what the coach tells us item because that could be you and another formation so when i look at the debt that we have at receiver <hes> the depth the tight end you know when you got guys you know i think nick eubanks is a guy. That's having a phenomenal camp. <hes> sean mccune is so just amaze so polished <hes> but then now when you look at the receivers and guy. That's really standing out to me right. Now is ronnie bill. I mean this guy is practicing at an elite level. <hes> just high energy every play flay every opportunity he gets. He told me the other day he's never felt as good as he does now and you can see it in his legs. I mean he's got the spring. He's got the bounce <hes> you know. He's done amazing job with coach herbert in the summertime with his condition. I mean he's like the energizer bunny he doesn't slowdown out there and when he raises that level of practice play for that group it brings is out the best in everybody. His body type is you could see it changes from basketball player football player and just the different amount of releases is that he has now and <hes> tariq <hes> is really is really improved a lot to hear with josh <hes> just two guys to name nico is as you know is really coming on strong right now and <hes> young cornelius johnson you see him in the and you see where mike sammer still well. <hes> you know that that fast quick type receiver and they're catching the ball down. The last two practices contested contested lasted rodney bell may made a bunch tariq made a bunch <hes> schoon maker those best practices back to back made to me. I'm more unbelievable catch contested type catches but they're tight ends adopted some of the the release moves and and <hes> to gain separation moves that i really think we and we we weren't as good at before. I joked with joked with <hes> up. Coach more tight ends coach. I think i'm gonna take half a sean mccain's released tapes and put it on my drew to teach me because he's done phenomenal job teaching those guys for at least some some of the most fun i've had watching practices watching you coach for tweet drew me to come to energy and engagement i made as a coach you know the game that part of the game i kinda slip by me at some point but watch e energy that you bring to that to that that that and the other thing is how you coach from the feet up you get so many guys receivers or they get catch the ball their feeder catch the ball catch. Catch them all and you teach the feet the movement of the feet to create separation start from the feet and work up through the hands. I have never seen that before. I'm a firm believer. That's where it all starts. You know just teaching i think footwork and foot placement or one of the most under coach things for receivers <hes> and that surprising you're able to gain insight to that because that's a big part of what we do you know just proper foot place mental routes proper footwork and releases. This is a big part in. I got a great group of guys they want. You know they want to be great. They allow me to coach them hard. Sometimes my strength is my is my greatest weakness because i'm so passionate <hes> but we do a really good job balancing that in the room of having fun in the meeting room so it's not just always tough it's light and and coach rowntree coach casula done an amazing job helping me assist with the with the receivers <hes> from that standpoint as far as preparing and putting those guys position to be successful but that rome itself itself you know you look at it and the balance in that room like coach to wreak blacks. Having a great camp made a huge made. Some huge plays a couple of days ago. Let me probably one of his best practices. I've ever seen and everyone was talking about. Mikey coming on as a freshman he picked up right where he left off but there's been another freshman create. Some buzz in cornelius johnson just so consistent just so mature <hes> great ball skills great body great really good speed. He's been quite quite a pleasant surprise you know and when you look at it <hes> the depth that we have with nico donovan which everyone they all know about nico and davin and the great career that they had a great season they had last year but now you can add these other elements to it as well as the luke's gospel makers. The eric calls the status of the world. I mean we've got a lot august skill players in we're in a really good position as we talk about the state of the program not only now but for the future of the program and he still so young the josh jackson is another guy catch your eye. He's he's got that energy and you look for back to back. Rep city takes aches and <hes> you know he's made some tough catches to and and can really run and going to help on special teams <hes> right away but he'll mark mark my word he'll he'll make some plays receivers well. I mean he's he's kind of. You talked about ronnie in that way gonna bounce in the step. I see that the child as well absolutely work cited about jobs you know really you know even giles in jordan johnson when those guys and all our freshman right miller coming off the bridge program so it's coach coach always reminds them in summer school summer school yeah they're going to see dramatic school here at the university of michigan in a lot of practice but they don't miss one minute of of school or or study time and it's it's a great thing get some really acclimated but <hes> you see guys take off once they once they're able to turn their full attention to the football. You really see him. When did your speed in space face. Where'd that come from how how did how did you get to that <hes> speed and spaces southern kinda. We've always talked about as far as the ideal of putting people in conflict and in speed it's space and initially when i said you know everybody. Kinda took off with it. Well it's going to be you know bubble screens and this and that no that's not the that's not the philosophy excreting one on one match ups to allow you guys to be able to be in position to be successful on whether that's by scheme or r._p._o. Or drop back concepts. How do you find creative ways to get your guys open by attacking opposing defenses weaknesses jobs that you can gain that and that's what we do. We just don't run plays. The run plays we run place to attack people and that's why i say every game plan or every adjustment you know how we attack our defenses different how we're gonna attack other defenses and just try to find creative ways <hes> to get those guys out and we we don't just mean you know skill players but we're also talking running backs receivers tight ends and quarterbacks getting those guys out in space getting those guys evolve because we've got a very talented and athletic room at quarterback and so <hes> it's our it's our model auto. We wanna make sure that the defense has to defend all eligible skill players and for us that six five eligible receivers that we have running back tight in receivers then the quarterback as well. They've got defend all six eligible skill. It's been fun to watch. Quarterback says can shave play really great football but at no oh time if dylan mccaffrey goes into the game or joe milton goes into the game you're excited when each of those guys comes into the practice and eventually we'll we'll come into the game because they <hes> they all have they all have talent to what they're best at in the whole room <hes> each of them so <hes> never been in that position <hes> so far since we've been here it's been a it's a great bunch of guys to work with it. Is it's a very talented room in coach mcdaniels and kotwal done amazing job with those guys you know when you look at it. I've been places before in the past where you lose one quarterback. You have to flip the call she over fire second quarterbacks place ace because they can't do run that offense. You know very small. That's not the case for us. <hes> you know each of our quarterback can run the offense effectively and efficiently do are they different. Yes they all have something that they probably excelled that you know in certain areas but they all tremendous value to the offense and so we we can build and package the things they do well but they also doesn't take our foot off the gas pedal of what we do offensively and so <hes> when you see that and you have that depth at that quarterback allows you to think outside the box of what you can do what all of them and create some exciting place. I really think to <hes> joe joe. Milton and kate mcnamara both <hes> went and spent a week with the navy seals the summer <hes> commander camp there were they did navy seal training they were they were on on a aircraft carrier with marines <hes>. They got leadership training captain. Tom chevy commander in the navy. Seals worked with our team. <hes> worked for the whole team this this off season and those two guys in particular <hes> when that came back i mean joe came back really <hes> a different guy is he was so so focused on on leadership and he really engaged when he was out there that camp and see the same thing uh with cade but <hes> that was it's it's been it's been great to watch joe grow in immature as a football player player in the system and also as a as a man yeah i think joe i think that ah kotido right on hey. I think that experience was phenomenal for joe. I remember talking to him right. When he came back and <hes> he was telling me all the different <hes> drills and exercises they went through he kind of took stand out there to be a captain and and kind of lead the group or the unit unit that he was a part of but then now you're able to see that carry over to the football field and joe had some great instances the last few practices where he's been a great leader on on the field whether the back is misaligned overseas motion is wrong. Were you start seeing that leadership grow in the quarterback because that's who your quarterback has. He has to be your captain on the field. You know he's got to be able to command demand. The best from everybody and joe was really really improved in that area <hes> and you start already see show up and so you know when i look at him and i look at kate and i think about you know how exciting those guys future's going to be here and how well they fit the offense it leaves a good spot. You know as a coordinator and those guys are gonna have opportunities. Issue jobs will have opportunities and games share you know and as well as dylan so i think you know when you've got competition level bruin that high in that room you bring out the best in each one of those guys and shea knows he's gotta bring his best each and every day because because of because of joe because of <hes> dylan because of kate iron sharpens iron yeah plus system to i mean they they see how they can be successful and it stimulates new and they've studied. It is intensely they can. I think it's also just been been really stimulating former grow a decisiveness from the from the quarterback position this year. I mean a confidence standing behind that center and that's my impression anyway. Maybe i'm way off base on that yeah. I think i think the things that helps. It's having <hes> if they don't think josh gad straight coaches cash should did anything coaches quieted down the last few days. We're going to let those guys go out and play <hes> but i think it helps. When you have people around you you know that's first and foremost oh. She got the guys up front. You've got receivers. You got the tight ends. We're just in a really really good spot offensively when you look at our personnel and so we're not asking you know any of those guys to have to be the ringleader yes. They're the they're the quarterback but there's gonna be some. They don't have to do the show themselves. No one man has to just carry the load <hes> we're just asking everybody to just do their job and if all eleven guys on the field can do their job successfully on every play going to be good going to be pretty good average average said jazz saying you know the quarterback facilitates it and and you know if you're the you're running back tight end or any the two receivers receivers are out there that are three receivers that are out there or even the four receivers that are out there. Everybody running everybody alert. Everybody's got a chance to to <hes> get the ball make a play on every snap napa and and and if they don't get the ball then they become a blocker that's where <hes> and and receivers and i said that earlier about the <hes> the commitment to a to the team can be measured by <hes> their commitment to special teams. I did not originate that. I got that for from from josh gaddis but it's it's been so it's been good to see our receivers committed than playing special teams it is. I think that's a that's a credit. <hes> you know obviously justice our our team philosophy. You know the team the team the team you know putting the team first and that was something that coach reiterated before we started camping up and that was our motto gonen. Can't you know we're going to judge. Everybody's commitment level on how well they sacrifice. Put the team forward and oftentimes at receiver throughout my years always in the pats. That's probably the one position group that kinda get brings less valuable especially. Those guys see themselves just as pass catchers you know because they don't tackle <hes> but there's other roles in other ways that you can be involved a special teams in the see. The young guys like giles canoe. Those guys are out there competing as starters for gunners. They're running down kickoff. Punt <hes> obviously you. Every receiver wants to be a part of the return game right. That's that's the part that they love but but this exciting spot out there it's fun. It's a fun when so to see those guys just embrace their roles coach departures. It's done amazing job as well as a coach coach hardball <hes> really just finding ways that we can get those guys involved in special teams. <hes> has been a benefit something that i've been truly impressed with their their commitment mid level i know if those guys is down the road some they wanna do but we've talked about a bit early being around being around the ravens sitting in those draft rooms in the question they asked was was he involved in special teams up the board. He goes that's right. Was it down with the board. He goes in for the long term future. There's a lot to be gained through special teams play. That's right. You know you always hear the stories of the guys that <hes> they go on to the n._f._l. And then all of a sudden now they want to try out snapping. They want to try to the things they did whatever they can to make a roster make a role but you know that's just buying that we have special teams as important here within our program and we're committed to it and we're committed to put now the best if you can't play on teams. I don't know how you think you can play on offense having a chance to talk about the running backs the position where there's the fewest returning snaps coming back from last season. How's the running back battle shaking out knowing that you'll have won back. That's too back sets the cetera we've got we've got five guys back there that i truly believe <hes> bring value to us and really have roles lately pass days as <hes> you know. There's been some guys that have stepped up. You know think zack chardonnay is coming on very very strong. <hes> you know he's really hitting into his groove in which it's really exciting for him mm-hmm because he missed so much time in the spring and coach jay had to do a tremendous job making sure he was taking the mental reps and preparing himself for when the opportunity came out out that he was going to be able to get the live reps but then true wilson has had a great camp. He's got it. <hes> spent a lotta time this all season reshaping his body trying to turn turn some of the things that may be perceived as witnesses to a strength and seeing his burst allergy practice <hes> at a high level <hes> you being able to see him being the veteran leader of that group and just does everything right. I mean just you know. The right reads the footwork everything <hes> ben van summers another guy. Who's i mean he's workhorse course if we had one hundred ten other guys at practice at the level ben van summer <hes> they wouldn't need us point. It'd be me right because he just sex the example. You know for everybody on offense finishing through the goal line. I mean he's got a burst. He's a guy that when you look at them you think two hundred forty pound found back. He's going to be stiff but he's not he's got great hips can sink his weight and transition. He's really good speed <hes>. I'm excited to see him. Let it go on saturdays because i think he's going to surprise because a lot of people hassan haskins has had a really good camp. You know those guys that <hes> you know when you talk about zach charbon you talk about <hes> chris turner. Her son has because those guys masala spring so to see those guys come out here this fall camp and they'll pick up <hes> we're really everyone left off and they're not being left behind was a pleasant surprise whereas but then also having chris turner who's on explosive guy and christians guy that just plays fast all the time. Sometimes we got to slow down just a little bit you you know but <hes> he's an exciting back. You know he's got the opportunity to take a little ron and turn them into big runs <hes> so when i look at the room itself when you've got five guys they can go out and play for you and compete which at high level <hes> i it's exciting but you know the balance still ongoing you know i think it's heating up behind a couple of guys in that room. I think zack starting to kind of push the envelope a little bit forward <hes> and bring out the best in everybody and i was also going to say to <hes> nick cappuccino tino walked onto the team is going to get <hes> he'll. He'll gain some yards force this year. I mean he is a <hes>. He's a good purpose back and then <hes> and three promising using freshman backs in leon franklin jordan castleberry and danny hughes all doing a really good job all that said about all the different guys on offense and scheme team this that and the other doesn't matter what ki- me run or what position skill your skill position guys you have. You have to have five guys up front. That can really get the job done for you and there's a lot of experience coming coming back on avenue right tackle. This year is that battle has a little bit of an injury issue with that as well but talking about the guys up front and how they're all gel together to be that maybe the best off it's alive. Michigan sat here in a long time. Yeah i'll tell you it's possibly best off into line. I've ever been around as a coach and kotoinazuma amazing job with those guys is in <hes> you've been bredesen's overseas or captain of our football team leader <hes> but he's not just the only leader on that offense law when you look at caesar rua's <hes> everything kinda on a really runs through seize. <hes> you know just how much we put on our center <hes> as far as getting you know. Everybody lined up getting the combinations getting the i._d. Points <hes> really really make sure the offensive line is all on the same page with him <hes> but you know michael one year. He's having a great camp. <hes> you know very physical guy that can has great feat feet can move people obviously jalen mayfield stepping in at right tackle real excited about jalen is a big time players got a very bright future. <hes> you know he's expect. He's what you expect michigan tackle <hes> just a great kid phenomenal player <hes> the jon runyan another guy that played a lot of football big ten player last year coming back but they're now able to see the debt behind those positions guys like ryan hayes i think having a really improved <hes> a summer camp of fall camp from where he left off in spring two now joe hannaford starters and and you oh guys there's a lot of talented players. We have shop big shug. Oh yeah when you when you look around you know and stephen spinella you know even with our twos but but then also looking at our true freshman and seeing the athleticism of some of those guys i mean we've got some very trendy. <hes> jones is he's as athletic as they come in him and carson carson iron heart is gonna be a really good camp. Ryan hayes <hes> couple a lot of football rambler rambler rambler carpenter at a at an ankle injury but <hes> he was doing good things before <hes> he got the high ankle sprain and stored as well so you know when you look at that freshman class. That's probably as good of a freshman offense along class. I would put that up against anywhere. The country keegan treadmills name well a lot of good. He looks the part just walking on the field keegan. I'm talking about he's had a great great last four or five days. As ed warner said i mean you feel really good about the future those six offensive linemen that we have the entire freshmen class you know sometimes freshman man and they there's a spot just wide open and they get a chance to play these. There's ten or twelve full all players in the freshman class offense and defense. They are wait for an opening. I mean they're playing at a level where they're challenging some of the very good players that are already in place place the ball absolutely and and i would argue in our where we are as a team i would probably say all for two line is probably the most challenging position and right away to to bring value to because especially in a practice setting because the changes all the time you know our defense and all the different packages kids in front and i mean if you're young offered to lamin and you see guys moving around left and right and they're coming up this coming on and it's blitz every play so so it just accelerate your your growing process. You know you really have to mature. You really have to understand learn how to communicate <hes> but it only makes us better you know we talked about iron sharpens iron and so <hes> you know i think what it does it helps. Prepare those guys because the looks of start getting vanilla season goes you know nobody can bring the pressure russia packages that our team can you know and so when you win against that in practice you feel as prepared when someone else does it in a game. Oh see it all the time. You know you ready for it. At that point right yeah exactly right though data there was a time just a couple of years back we had a lot of freshmen <hes> fourteen in seventeen and because we needed to death now i would say i mean there's at least six an offense and six on defense that are challenging allergy for spots either starting spots or or for sure second team spots and as josh said six six are lyman so there's now you're up to eighteen and there's there's <hes> the other seven come. We'll be challenging soon as well. It's been a it's been a really good class matt dudek <hes> take a deep bow that takes village come on. I take a team over there. Okay josh appreciates. 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Can't stop the Browns QB and after one thousand twenty nine days they're celebrating on Sunday. Sorry, coach, Jackson, these Browns are for real never meant to make the ravens cry. I apologize a trillion times prounced twelve ravens, nine. Stop to rock city where hasn't been a beautiful day in Mr.. Aaron Rodgers neighborhood the past few weeks and it starts with missing Crosby aka Crosby Stills, Nash and done who had two cats in the yard, making life for the Packers. So art, the Packers tried to come back in the game using the energy boost of Marquez. One Valdez scheduling parties only had a Cup of coffee as starter, and they ultimately fell short to quote my personal friend. Katy Perry will Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers fight and break up or kiss and make up line thirty one Packers twenty three. Some spread. In Pittsburgh where we go. James Conor McGregor said, if you can't beat them, join them unveiled a Russian attack of his own forcing the falcons to tap in the fourth Muhammed Sohn, new kids on the block was hanging tough, but the falcons got nothing yet again from that and Julio down by the no touchdown yard. Mike Tomlin San Diego said, where in the world is Pittsburgh Steelers locker room, and it looks like he finally founded good juju back in the ins or capital of the world Steelers forty-one Thuc at seventeen kick kick. And Philadelphia. The Vikings looked for revenge for the two thousand eighteen enough, see championship and Adam feel like making brotherly love had one hundred sixteen yards in score while the other side of the ball, Zach, irt, so good come on baby, make it hurts. So good had one hundred ten yards and a score of his own. The story of the game was lyndale Joseph stumbling and Lindo does bumbling and Lindo Joseph rumbling for a score and Lenovo tosa froggy needing oxygen for its burnt-out locks is Doug funny Peterson on the hotseat. People are asking this question. Now he could go. Does a quarterback controversy in New York as Odal Beckham ran the Phillies special to perfection and sterling Shepard tried to attack UI manning on the sideline. But in the case of mistaken identity took his frustrations out on the nearest trash. Can the giants have Graham Gano sleep till Brooklyn on their plane ride home after this loss. Whereas Ben mcadoo when you need them Panthers thirty, three giants, thirty one, the New York football giants, the New York football giants. And western New York. You're supposed to remember the titans, but Chow Xiaowen gave them an afternoon to forget torching bills for eighty two very tall, spectacular guards Mike. The Raval guy expected his team to show up between the hours of one and four PM, but Marcus mariota scrambles was less visually appealing than when you try to turn off to the spice channel as a twelve year old. Hey, Jake Yabu no one circle the wagons. Like a puff, o pills poster, teen titans, twelve in Kansas City where the red hat chiefs battled with the Saxon Ville Jaguars. Let's kick it down to field level where the star of this early NFL season Patrick Mahomes joins our program. Patrick, let me be the first to say, you're good at football. Now, please talk about the game. Conscious fire, the great position to win. Just trying to play early clinic to the Jaguars. They fought their football team and Dr destroy go car next to their playmakers, their heart. Thank you. Patrick. Chiefs, starting Jaguar, sixteen, we wrap up in sunny California where the chargers raiders faced off for a battle of LA franchises past and present Melvin Gordon Lightfoot continued in the wreck of junk good career as Jordi. Half Nelson played like yet an arm tied behind his back and Martavis. Kobe. Bryant didn't flinch. Even though Derek Carr was unable to throw the ball directly. Adam, Anthony Lyndon Johnson pulled his pants down and folks. The rumors are true. He has a huge set of nuts. The Philip rivers rent read with. Eight or plug on Sunday as I San Diego superchargers cut up Oakland to the tune of twenty six, ten. Okay. Week five in the books and we got to start with what we just watched the battle of who can get fired quicker. Bill O'Brien, verse Jason, Herod. Well, actually the loser. This game should just be sentenced to coach that franchise for the rest of their life. Holy shit. Was that a bad game and holy shit Bill Brian, I I don't know what's worse Bill, Brian, just not being able to score from the one yard line with Shawn, Watson, gendre Hopkins, and and essentially like he's supposed to guy JJ watt. Appoint Hank. Yeah, or Jason Garrett punting the ball from the other side of the fifty in overtime. Fourth, in one, when you used a first round draft, pick on a running back, you can't get one yard, you punted away and then they basically come down and scorn when the game. Yeah, I think with Bill Brian, he looked. Like he was trying to get the Shawn Watson injured and because he's used to have shitty quarterback. Yes, it is actually an advantage to them. If his starting quarterback goes out while I was gonna say, stay woke Bill. Brian is like if we can get to Shawn Watson ins or injured again, then I can just by another year of, well, I didn't have to Shawn Watson. He'll bring Brock Osweiler backer brand. And we. And that would have been amazing. It's my favorite team. Yeah. So I, I mean, like he doesn't know how to coach to Shawn Watson. That's pretty clear. He was like putting men shotgun and running the ball and fourth and one on the goal. I, I don't know what the hell is doing. He was Garrett, I, I don't have a problem with the fourth and one, you know the problem with plinking. Here's why it would have been so out of character for Jason Garrett to Jay, Jason GARRETT'S IMO is to just not get fired by Jerry Jones. And Jerry Jones doesn't like any of this like analytic stuff. Jerry Jones likes conservative football and he likes it when Jason gadget stains on the sideline and shuts up. Matter of fact, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen Jason Garrett speak on the sidelines. Anybody just like holds up numbers. He laughs a lot, and then he points tells them to run out the, but I don't have a problem with it. It'd been. Yeah, it was a chicken shit move, but that's kind of who Jason Garrett is, but it's such terrible. Like I know we, we're going to get to it with peepers Cohen a minute like the advance stats when you should go for this is just a gut thing like you're, you're handing the ball back to the other team. Overtime. When all you have to do is get one yard. And if you this is like like if you if you draft, if you draft a running back in the first round and you feature a running back as like the offense can be run. I even though that's so asinine in the NFL and then you say we're not going to be able to get one yard. That's insanity. It is. It is not like, don't get me wrong. I would've called a differently, but that's what I want for my Jason Garrett. I want the most boring vanilla ask football possible. All you got and we got it. We had insult. So the other story, the will whip around the league. But the big story obviously is the Cleveland Browns have won a game on a Sunday undefeated in their code, rush uniforms this year in the neon Brown. And we also had Hugh Jackson, putting up two fingers after the game, which it was confusing, two seconds left. So we think that he didn't realize that once you kick a field goal in overtime after everyone's had a possession, the game is over. Some people thought maybe he wanted to go for. I thought I thought he was like, let's go for two right now. We're up by three points so you don't wanna be up before he five, Hugh Jackson, STAN. Out there? Yes, I cannot believe there actually. Are. These people were saying he was putting up two fingers to say, we have two victories because what NFL coach doesn't put up how many victories they have after every game. He's like a person on Twitter that changes their name, their display name after every game, the record don't don't hate on those don't have the absolute on those people, but it's like Michael Jordan, putting up six after like, what are you doing? What? Why would Hugh Jackson be like? We got two wins now. Well, two wins guy who doesn't know how to handle victories pretty clear. I have noticed that everybody that defense you because there are Houston's. They're mostly just players that played for. Yeah, he didn't cut. So they like them? Yeah, who's really nice. He's a nice guy. Yeah. He's a really nice guy also. Did you see the story that Baker Mayfield just basically alpha, Todd, Haley? Yeah. He said, I'll coach. I got this. I got back off. So maybe the Browns will have a good chance of to something this year. I think Todd saw that and he's like, hey, you know if you wanna come over later, hang out with MRs. I like that candidate attitude. Yeah. She likes the office doodle Eiffel tower, situation triangle, we'll play drinking games. We have a lot. A lot of done chain candidates this week. We do a lot out all start. I'll just start saying names you can stop me when. Okay. Yeah. Toss the dungeon out like it's mardi gras beads. Falcons are done, changed unchain right around their neck raiders have we already done chain them? I think we did last week. Yeah, they're done. They're fully fully done. Let's see who else? The Cowboys are good candidate for. She was losing that. I was thinking about that because we said it was a loser leave town game. So is kind of like win the NFC said, he'd tell you what, if the our words beat the saints tonight, then I'm going to put the done chain retroactively on the Cowboys Scott it. Okay, that's fair. But I also think Jason Garris he has the alive chain. He has the the, which should be like the dunce cap of freedom for another year. Yeah, he's both those guys aren't going to get fired. No. Those guys are going to coach against each other in four years when when the Texans in the Cowboys play again and I'm gonna love every second of it. Let's see. Who else did I have I? I mean, do you want to know? We can't put on cheat on the Packers, but Mason Crosby I can't. I can't put it spins own afterwards what he you say. So he went, he went. Over five on kicks. And he said those five MRs were in anomaly in life. I guess. I guess that could be like, here's a spin zone for Mason Crosby. If you're gonna miss three, you might as well miss fi so that you can say something like there was like something the matrix had like the CD skipped on the matrix. Yep. And Mason Crosby just forgot how to kick a field goal for day. It's like Chuck Knoblauch throwing a hundred feet into, you know, the first base line he had the today, right? It was a upstate, it would I, you know, who had the more than Mason Crosby was skip Bayless because Bayless did not tweet anything out about Mason. Crosby magical mysterious makes it had against the Cowboys two years ago and plots and this would have been the day to do it. But we, first of all, like it's kind of sad because PSE and I, when we got in the office, we essentially finish each other sensor like skip Bayless hasn't tweeted about Mason Crosby like what the hell is looking for his checking. Twitter, I thought there was some wrong my computer, but credits skip. This is why he's he's on the top of the mountain. He keeps you guessing when you think you got him in a corner when you're like us here comes skip with Mason. Crosby takes. He just pretends it never happened right. When you think you've got the man figured out. She's an extra skip only has one TV in house. I realized that today because he was only tweeting about like the Browns game. I think he only has one TV. He has one TV in his Jim. Yeah, and then he can go on the treadmill and you can watch the TV on the treadmill. But yeah, he, he dials and he's not a red zone guy. No red zone is way to confuse. It's too much for skip Bayless. Yeah. So the the eagles another done chain candidate, although the eagles if you have your like bingo card who who is going to have a penalty, bullshit penalty ruin a game. The eagles come on, come on down because that Michael Bennett sack of Kirk cousins, where he just kind of lightly tripped him up. Yeah, was insane. That was not I and one other take away from that games. Doug Peterson, got fat. Well, I didn't realize he got so chunky. I would too. I like him chunky. I think he's, I think he's a better looking coach with that, like he's got the thing where now is cheekbones just go down like straight into his shoulders. No. Why does the problem though? If you get too fat and you wear visor than the visor is like when when the visor gets skinnier on top, then your fat face is like basically protruding outside the visor. Yeah, that's a bad Laura could kind of mushroom and it constricts like at the middle of the head. And so he's got his got top. He's got top. Yeah, he's got top fat hanging over like it's a belt on the dick and then it it widens out again. Yes, toed shoe, should we? What else we got in the NFL we wanna hit. I just I made a note and I'm not sure where I was going with this, but I just love Chris Collins worth the way that he says Al. Yeah, Al. I like that too. How that's a good note. Yeah. Just just a quick, you know, wanna touch on that. I also feel like I haven't seen a Romo game this year, which is kinda weird. He just feel that way. I feel like he's been on one o'clock every single every single day. I see him in the red zone, iron screaming about some red zone in paisley wakes you up from your nap. Yeah, but I, I don't know what's going on and they the Bengals slow shots. The Bengals the my AFC north pick of the year. They're, they're good. Good defense defense is better than we thought that's. I thought that would be like their undoing, but that's, I guess, woke up, but they played the dolphins. I came seventeen down and Joe mixing might be top three running back. Yeah, I would say when he's healthy, he had when he's healthy. The reason we're not seeing romo's because he does CBS, but we because we're New York, we get stuck watching the shitty jets. Oh, it's so bad. Oh, the giants. We need to talk about Dell Beckham signing a monster contract and getting all the way to week five before he says, I don't know about you. I, yeah, and you know what? I was not surprised that he was doing an interview with Lil Wayne. Yeah, some reasons I I, I saw that pop on TV knows like they make sense. Yeah, this perfectly homeys. It's tough to it's tough to drop the world when you only catch it with one hand, you know, the hot takes that we always get. You know, the hot takes get one Odell Beckham goes crazy on the sidelines like, oh, he's got to be a leader and stuff. Well, they kinda came to fruition when sterling Shepard attacks trash can and a bench. Well, actually he just learned from hotel Becca, what to do when something bad. I think he just needs to remove all inanimate objects from the giant sidelines dating cluding it. Yes, it is dangerous. And then I guess before we get into everything else, the bills shout out the bills, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, putting the team on his bass in a win win. You know what people are saying? Like he only had eighty two yards passing, but guess what? He. He had one of those touchdowns where if his hands were even a little bit smaller, wouldn't have reached the goal line up and we'll get the Blake Bortles talk with Pete Prisco, don't worry. We listen, they're fine. We brought in an expert with Pete. Jaguars are fine. The Jaguars just win. They just go back. They they win the news and they win the. That's what they're gonna do. They'll be good that chiefs are going to be really good fucking wagon. Although the Sunday night football game coming up chiefs, patriots, and then the chiefs are going down to Mexico City against the Rams the chiefs have an awesome schedule, but the chiefs, if you're chief's fan, listen this right now. I'm sure you can quote it right off the top of your head, but I think they've gone. I know they went what? Five and a last year they went eight, no, a couple years ago. I think they went another five and they've one zero playoff games, all these hot stones. That's that's any route football, Andy Reid, Andy Reid, football. All right. Wanna do baseball real quick. So David price a little head case, he listen, David price Besson cabin, David prices Mason Crosby coming out in missing. Field because I guess they're they're two peas in pot because I've never seen someone in. It's fascinating to me like genuinely fascinating to watch a guy who is good, who has all the talent in the world, just wrap able to show can't handle the bright lights of the Boston media. He sees Dan Shaughnessy curly little head walking by. He just start shitting a brick. He cannot do it, and then the the brewers advance the Braves have have held on. And then the Indians in the Astros in the infinite wisdom of major league baseball to grow the game, have maybe given them the worst schedule possible. I said you guys like if the Indians and Astros have an entire playoff series before four PM, does it even happen? No, it doesn't because I don't even like they had a game in the middle of the college football slate. They had a game in the middle of Friday afternoon, and then they have a game on Monday at one o'clock you, how do they decide that they're just like, nobody's going to. Series champions in the team that went to the World Series two years. They just know that no one's going to tune into like if they're going to have a time game, they want one of their big teams playing. Yeah, I know, but there's not like a ton of big. I mean, it's basically the Yankees and the Red Sox playing each other the. Yeah, that's that's. That's not baseball is exactly like have tons of huge markets everywhere you guys know me on big, seem head, right? Watch a lot of baseball fantasy leagues scored raise seem had this year racim because member the they're they're up little the raise any man? Yes, absolutely. I had somebody tweeted earlier, like maybe the laces are a little bit higher. That's why all the kickers keep missing field goals. So a little bit woke on the cable. Okay. But I watching the Yankees play, have they always been like that big? There's just like. Air earthy team air judge is he's not a real human being. He is what he is. He's he's William Wallace. When I thought willing moss was ten feet tall and blue fireballs out of his ass. That's what he does when he hits home run. He's that guy that they created when Barry Bonds when sign off on the major league baseball players agreement for for baseball game. Yeah, video game that guy's name somebody get on that. Oh, yeah. And judges, he, it's, it's incredible. And then John Carlos Stanton who he that guys won't talk about mental midgets I watched. I think I watched one at bat of the game on Friday night and it was him sitting there taking three straight pitches in the bottom of the night or the top of the ninth that guy's got big time mental magic. Yeah, they have l. Gary l. Gary Sanchez and then the Luke void guy who's there just massive. Yes, they're all just big big. Do tanker, you live it word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to be how come the Red Sox don't have any big boy just gave a little sly, like not even worry, not even not even a little bit. I mean you carry over some of those one hundred eight wins, Nope. Oh, so then probably should be little worried there Bubba, and they're bullpens absolutely awful. They win if they went tonight, though, I'm back on the network. Okay. Before runner before we it's a football guy that week we should probably also mentioned. We're going to talk to John and coups. Joel young, Joe young Barry Bonds character we should talk about you see two twenty nine before Gianetti is going to be interviewed in a minute here. He was at the fight, but holy shit was that obscene like it was it was a total chaos and everything you want from a fight night. I know people were some people are disgusted. I actually was a little disgusted Khabib spit on Conor McGregor. That was the only time I was like, that was too far. How could you be disgusted tuning into to UFC fight and then being upset? Another fight breaks. I made the point in its happen more often. Promo is one thing and I feel I could be just like realize he didn't realize the game. Now he even said it after he's like, yeah, this is a game of fighting is is a thing of honor. No shit talking. Yeah. What's yeah, that's like this is fighting is is meant for shit talking talking cells fight. Habib is the purest fighter. The mall, he fights when no one's looking. He thinks that fighting is a competition between a man and a bear, and nothing should get in the way of that. Craziest thing for him to do that though, is that he took away from an absolutely dominating performance. He owned McGregor. It went for rounds, but it really did it. If you watched it, there was not one second where you thought, oh, McGregor might win this fight. It was basically just toying with him like, okay, when is he wanna finish this? So suffocated, right in the fact that that he did all that to basically take away from. It comes sucks for him. And I know McGregor is kind of done some scummy things. I'm not saying that he hasn't. They can both be scumbags in their own. Right. But still it was just insanity. Yeah. I mean, I loved it. I love the drama. I stay. Up trying to watch every single honorable move for him to keep fighting. I'm actually yes, it was. Yeah, it was a little surprised at this stuff doesn't happen more often because like, okay, so you go and you watch a baseball game. Usually one of the first things you want to do is go home and like play catch the next day. You go watch basketball game. You wanna go hit the gym in like, take a few jump shots. You go watch a fight. You wanna fight. That's go Gregor the situations reverse people would have fucking loved it. Well, here's the thing. I'm being totally honest with you. I actually had no problem with him going into the stance like I actually didn't. The only thing I had a problem with was he choked him out and he like a substrate had to be ripped off because he want to let go of them. And then he keeps him like a push in spit. And the guy is is like a humped humped over half dead. Like that's when fights over. You shouldn't try to keep fighting the guy, right? That's what he went in the sands like this is awesome. Is fucking about the guys that jumped into the octagon to try to fight McGregor well, so there was so we didn't see too much later, but I guess McGregor might have thrown a punch at another Habib guy. So that is. Comeback moved by who's in the ring? Yes, it's come back by McGregor because you're trained fighter. You can't just throw like trying to throw haymakers of people. I mean, he was standing on a cage. Yeah, but still the guy in red though, was number one, he he jumped in in the ring and tried to punch McGregor from behind. I'll tell you what it takes some balls to jump into the ring and try to honor McGregor, right? Yeah. This isn't like the drunk guy falling into the penalty box. Tied domain getting sweater pulled over shed was this is this is like an intention. Okay. I'm gonna go get into a fistfight with McGregor. Yes, kind of respect. And the best moment of the night wasn't even that it was the black piece taking off his pants and because his balls were too hot balls are hot and Joe Rogan being like, I, I get sometimes the testicles just they start sweat. Yeah, fun night though. I mean, you see, I, I love watching big night. I'm not like a big time. What is a grapple? Fuck grapple Faulk grabble fuck no Racine head. I don't claim to be a grapple. Fuck. I actually openly admit that I don't. I've actually think that the you have c. community has. I've been a little bit nicer than me because I'm like, yo, I don't know what I'm talking about just like fights. Right. But a night like that is why you you buy the big fight yet? Laud everywhere. Knockouts and people go into the stands at trying to kick the shit out in, which is wonderful. Yeah, great. He's in love. Someone actually tweeted them either. Like, why can't people just get along? It's like, well, it is. You have seen this is a fight there. 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So he nailed it because then Mason had a quote and pig graphic on during the Michigan, Maryland game. It said I just like football. I like hitting people. Yep, it's as simple as it could get. That is true. Football is poss- any hurdle, the guy any hurdled. Again, there was one other play where he picked up a blitz pancake to Blitzer got on his feet and then pancake defensive lineman to pancakes. Perfect as perfect if he was on that high school team, he just be disturbed. I call the sky over because he hurdles over people and then you pancakes pancakes. Ooh, that's good. Although, no, it's hob now remember. Oh, the burgers. So funny when they did that and everyone thought it was. Yeah. Yeah, so much buzz. Next up, we have Christian McCaffrey who didn't know that they were kicking a game winning field goal because he was focused on the next play. So the quote was I had the service in my hand going over play with running backs. Coach, Jim skipper didn't even realise didn't put two and two together. It was a game winning field goal SoKo inside everybody jumping around. So through it in join them is that actually not a football guy though, because he was not aware of the game always so locked in on on what he can do to improve. Okay. I think that counts. Alright, that counts your. I also like the attention to detail the NFL's gotten better at this last couple of years. They used to just call the surfaces. These call knockoff ipads. Yeah, and then not realizing that apple paid like three hundred seventy million dollars. No Microsoft. Yeah, you just did. I just did it to to like not call them ipad right? Call them surface pros. This guy's a surface pro's pro. Yes, absolutely. And then we have pushed Avis, Florida. What is it? What's I? What is it Florida international. Is it? Yeah. Is that really the name? Laura international? Yeah, which doesn't really make sense. It means that they have a lot of exchange students. I dunno, it's really Florida international for some of they didn't have any dorm, so they just asked all their students to put up exchange students in their houses. And that's why I lean into. I just made that part up, but so institute university, I think, yes, that's it is definitely not that Florida institute of universities? Yes. International. What the hell? Why is it for international other close to Cuba? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. As Butch Davis said, when asked about turnover props, he said, yeah, we got a prop. We allow them to keep their scholarships if they get a turnover. That's great. We give out turnover homework. Yes, exactly. So, and then last cash, Daniel who actually is nominated this week, Kentucky did lose, but he tried to kill me on Thursday night. So I went over to his house. We're in Lexington, Kentucky, and he said, come over, we'll have. Family dinner, which was his roommates, and we came over. I was with Kahlo Brown, Tommy Dave. And we showed up and we're sitting there watching a game and all of a sudden, one of his roommates came out of the kitchen and said everyone in the kitchen right now, and they all ran in the kitchen. And I guess there was a huge fire because then we were almost suffocated with smoke and cash. Daniel kind of rolled with punches. He's like, sorry, guys, like my bad food was going to be good. I guess the football guy to try to just kill everyone. Yeah. Well, I think he probably harbor some deep seated resentment towards us for not including him on football guy the week, yes, the best was that they went in there the us a fire extinguisher on the oven. Yes. So all the food there was about ten minutes, and then they came out and said, dinner's canceled. They tried two minutes where they're like, maybe they won't notice that we sprayed a fire extinguisher all over this chick. They're scraping off the powder and they're like, yeah, we can still. We can still make this happen guys. Yes. All right. So those are our nominees. I've been Mason. Yeah, pretty Butch Davis. Pretty damn good that that's also good. Yeah. How little votes cash Daniel can get. Yeah, nobody vote for nobody vote for cash. What about Brechin Hager? The the Texas linebacker. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they ask them out of the game of Texas was back and he said back to going going back to work. Yeah. Yeah. It's only back back. They are back. That was an awesome game. You want to get into his back of the week, yellows do it. All right. So I guess we can just say Texas off the bat. Okay, let's do it. They are back in a big way. They were almost very, very back because we're going to have to not know the answer to whether or not Texas back because it gave up to really long touchdowns at the end of the game and made everybody sweated out. But yeah, there absolutely back, yes. Is it for real there so back they gotta stoops fired. So Bob soups, brother was the defensive coordinator. He got fired that that was a Dead Man Walking position. If you if you stick around after your brother, who's the head coach leaves? You're just, you're know that you're going to be the first to roll. Yes, absolutely. But yet Texas, that was a hell force. I doubted them for a while. While I mean when you lose to Maryland backpack years, it's fair to doubt them together. Some nice wins Marilyn's the kryptonite to Texas football. Yeah, it is. I, I love how they have Dicker the kicker yet. Dick, that guy was not gonna miss and and Gus Johnson is just getting bored with the fact that he's the best big game announcer like dramatic announcer and he's trying out new stuff. He after Dicker the kicker, hit the field goal. He just yelled earthquake. He's goes earthquake taxes back. What? How does that have anything to do with house earthquake with the, there's a lot of fracking going on. I guess they were go. I mean, it was, but I think he just he, I think Gus Johnson is up where was like, I can just yell, words emphatically and people will say on the. Yeah, I think that temporarily, I'm lifting the restraining order on saying that s. word that was shoot out that was read shoot out so we can describe this call whatever you want, but it's still the Red River shootout. So after the game, when they present the trophy, it's got like the golden cowboy. Hat on the trophy stand. Is that thing supposed to come off? I yeah. Did they break? No, there's it's supposed to feel aware it? Yeah. Ever member Charlie. Charlie along finger. That's one moment. That's what I thought. Yeah, but secret wherever I was secretly hoping that they broke the trophy. That'd be great. That'd be great. And there's too many trophies by the way that's not like a millennial thing, but Wisconsin Nebraska played for trophy that looked like a pastry. I'm pretty sure every Wisconsin game. Somebody gets a trophy. Ray bacon. Yeah. Yeah. A bacon or pot of beans. We usually went something like, do you have any other who's back? Yeah, I've got a couple of whose backs Fred Durst is back. Do tell did you see he was performing over the weekend? And I can't say I did have to and shaggy two dope one of the two lead singers from Saint Cloud posse rushed up on the stage and tried to drop kick him off the stage and Durst nearly avoided the kick by like half half a step in the nickel, shaggy to a pussy. Can I ask question? Yeah. Were there more than two hundred fifty people there? I only saw cameras that were facing the stage and I saw two different views of it. I was trying to break down the angles, but it it just on those might have been the only people there. Recording. It actually was just it was just an may fight. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm actually surprised at anybody went. There was recording anything. Why would you want anybody know that you're. Solo, definitely an underground Florida street racing community where we're showing a video of you at Fred, Durst concerts, don't place you get credit yet. You still get you still probably can can hook up with with some checks if you're like, yo, did you see what I did this weekend? Yeah, Fred Durst. Remember him limp. Iskit not to brag. You wanna have one of four people that saw this concert. Yeah, babe get in my Honda. Civic SI with racing seats. Yeah, and pretty bad ass. Yeah, and the sweet spoiler on the back we're going to sonic tune in some racing stripes. Okay. Next that was a, who's back? I can't say I saw coming. Yeah. And then boomers back, okay. Yep. Boomer was on the call for the for the major league baseball radio for the Braves. Dodgers. Yes, he's been doing. Yeah. And he was he put it in, put it in pre one pitch. All the way to live feel back. It goes. He can't legally buy a drink. But he hit a grand slam in the postseason so sexy, so. Awesome. Yeah, he's, I listened to him a couple of days ago. He's been doing a bunch of baseball games and it's just it's perfect. I like to think that nobody knows when boomers going to be on the call just like if he shows up to a game, it's it's an unwritten rule of broadcaster. Yeah, that if you get tapped on your shoulder and it's boomer behind, take a hike kid, he have to just let him out the call. Right? It's like a mafia guy, having a booth at a restaurant. Yeah, he might not. He might not come to dinner for a month, but if he shows up, you're getting out of that. Exactly. Yep. That's what he. That's bloomer. All right. Hey, you go back the week is banks. He? Yes, could call if you guys Hollis, but he he did a painting back in the day and he built in a like shredder into the painting and case the painting ever got sold for auction. This weekend had got sold for like one point, three million dollars and right after the person bought it just started shredding. Yup. All the people that were there like horrified put in a self-destruct thing. I heard this. Might have been like an all time backfire because it was worth more after it. Got shredded absolutely going to be worth more. Yeah, it's hilarious. As can be worth more. Someone will just reframe it and be like, look at this is the one that banks shredding. I love banks, but banks back he so deep. Yeah, he's so ever see the one where he's the key models name. Right? Actually we can't. We can't say it. He'll kill us, but I do knows name. Yeah. Do you ever see the painting did whereas Mickey Mouse wearing wearing gas masks? Yes. And then they're all like they're praying too big statue, but the statues a dollar sign. Yeah, so deep. Yep. He's capital fucking capitalism. Next on his back was fully thought. We're only doing one one who's back on one. Yeah, foliage is back back in a big. I don't think it is yet. Oh, yeah. Well, I guess because we live in this shit hole city. We don't know trees. Someone tell me what someone tweet me a picture fully it. So I know that fully somebody told me what would a lake in a tree looks like in a plant? I actually, I got to go on a little side side bar here, but I had an idea. Today that they should have pictures that you can smell like. So you can send pictures, you can smell because is parked my car today. Scratch and sniff. No, but it's like, you know, digital on your phones? We at Twitter. I tweet a picture and people can smell. 'cause I, I parked my car today, and it was, I think it was in a pile of oil diarrhea puke. And there was some kind of shredded like there's some kind of glass that maybe was. It was actually probably glasses diarrhea the- that got dropped it and I wanted to, and there was a trash bag, and I wanna take a picture just gotta love the sitting. Actually, here's a weird thing with new iphone. If you go to scratch and sniff dot com. Smell your phone. Yeah, it's actually like a scratch. Yeah, and Josh Allen dot com. Yeah. Yeah. And you just want. I just wonder how many people have no smell their iphone. Swag phone, maybe someone maybe one person? Yeah, there's one Gotcha. There's one high guy, hey, hey, Tim, got you. You're too high for Monday morning. I know it's Columbus, David. You're too high to be smelling your phone. All right, my whose back is the clutch gene. Yeah, the clutch sheen is big time back because or the absence of the clutch gene because David price big time question, how can he be so bad? Owen ten in the postseason will turns out I was reading an article there. Actually. There's actually now people studying the clutch gene and it is very much real thing. Yes. Yeah. So they they, you can. You can. You can not only have the clutch gene, but you can strengthen the clutch gene. How here now. Well, decade ago Jackson's it was talking about Reggie Jackson, how he had the clutch gene, and he might have been regarded as pure bluster researchers who studied the brains of athletes, believe more and more that a so called clutched gene exists. They've seen enough incremental improvement through brain training that they regarded as a muscle capable being built, and likewise atrophying, and that limiting the chasm between mental and physical empowers athletes is succeed. That's awesome. So it's the clutch muscle. We need to get brain cables for clutched. Yeah. How do you do that? I want to train play a lot of lot of Madden fourth quarter man. Okay. Yeah, just just simulate into the fourth yet. Right? Which is going right? Yeah, play the Tiger Woods golf game where the controller beats like you can feel the heartbeat. Yes, just only do those shots. Yes, to work on a clutch. Yeah, that's great news that somebody's finally studying just besides me. Yes. Yeah. I mean, we need. We need someone who had maybe an made probably probably have empty, probably PHD. Yeah, to stick their name on. It reminds me of like there's an article in ESPN the magazine way back in the day like two thousand and it said that Tim Duncan would never win an NBA title. And Jason Kidd would win multiple ones because of the structure of their face. And you could study somebody's face to determine this Nazi book. You're reading it was ESPN the magazines. So you tell me who's maybe who's to say. But yeah, it was like the study of people like the bay Cup of your your facial structure, your cheekbones, your nose, how it's all line, what will determine whether or not you're going to be an effective leader, man, that's wild stuff. Yeah. I mean, if you if you write enough words about it, I won't read it, but I believe, yes, I, I mean, I'm back into its over. Yeah, we'll skim over and be like, okay, that makes a lot of sense. But yeah, the clutch gene, this was this was like a thing that nerds did us where they tried to put everything on a spreadsheet and take away the question anyone's watch any sports for any amount of their life knows the question. You know what nerds didn't do growing up. They didn't stand in the backyard, saying three to one as they were tempting that shot on basketball. Yeah, yeah. So I've got a lifetime of training I was practicing of practicing without any friends? No. You what you do is you do the down one? Two free throws because then you're going to at least hit one. Yeah. And then you go, and then you. Paul, yeah, they steal the ball and shoot it, so it's a good way to do it. All right. Let's get to our interviews wanted to go first. Then we have John who is at UFC two twenty nine. He was on the call with Joe Rogan talking about what the hell happened and how crazy with the fall. It's going to be from it. 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Okay, we welcome on our good friend and fiery Italian, Pete Prisco. You can find them every single day on his Twitter at our. Sorry, brisk at Prisco CBS. He's on CBS sports dot com. He's got the pick six podcast, Pete's ward, and. The twenty four hour network. I was going to get there. I was gonna get there. All right, Pete. We wanna talk about week five and the just everyone knows we didn't. We were planning on having you on like four days ago. It just so happened that this is now the Blake Bortles isn't bad. Everyone shut up meeting so meeting is now in order explain to us why Blake Bortles is not bad and everyone just shut up. Are any good go for four hundred yards sold. Well, let me look at a screen pass was a terrible. I look and there's a lot of quarterbacks of Bank that play was bad play. Picked it off, took it back. There's one that dragged off the helmet. I can't figure that one out. I can't defend them on that one at all. He was trying to get his office. Alignment involves raining. It was raining, nah, excuse me. The one he didn't play great football today wasn't terrible though, but every time he makes the stake. It's magnified by one hundred because the Twitter potty that jumped in on them. Nobody's sitting here saying he's a great quarterback, but he's better than people give credit for and you know he didn't get a lot of help from the offense of line today. Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with this last name Bortles Bortles just like a fun name to highlight when somebody screws up and I'm sick of it. Frankly, like just something fun, new slim for it. I can't figure out why anybody does. I mean, they kill the kid. Same quarterbacks, Baker, same day. Other quarterback famous worse. I, I tweeted something because Ryan tannehill through one off of his Lyman that got took. It was taken back for pick six and I was like, oh my God who would ever do this wouldn't idiot and like this. It does happen the NFL now we're not gonna talk all Blake, but it's good that you lead with the four hundred yards. 'cause I -gree they're good game by Blake rain, listen, he also was playing against the greatest quarterback of all time. Do you believe in the Patrick Mahomes hype? Do you think it's ever gonna come back down to earth or is he just that special. What coming back a little bit too picks if you would've said that before the game is Jacksonville, Jaguars Patrick Mahomes without a touchdown threw his first interception. You said they won the game, right? I mean, so it wasn't a great day for him. And I, I think, is going to be a little correction on. I love the kid. I think he's, I love the way, throws it around. He's got that gunslinger mentality. Can people rush into the whole saying, I mean, my God for four games, rushing the whole thing. Yeah, I flow your role on these guys. I figured that you would be the guy that would be the only person out there dying on that hill of, let's pump the brakes, Pat Mahomes, but it seems like you're just as starstruck as everybody else like is, is that fair. No, I'm star because I love the way the kid play the game at the Warner racing them up to the hall of fame. That's not the. I think you do gotta pump the brakes until you get, you know, a ten game, twelve game. You know, look at these guys. It's so hard to really get a true analysis on them. And I think it's the same with your Bisky now this year, but he's like, oh, he's those Dutch down past trubisky's. Now Jerry is he? I mean, you gotta wait on these guys giving little cards. I like how you're holding Jerry Gotha up now as the standard of elite quarterback play a. We've been on that for several years. Welcome aboard. There was there was one particular player that I thought stood out a little bit this weekend, and I wanted to give you credit because you're two years ahead of the curve on him. Michael Johnson on the Bengals if you recall, I think Pete had him as his number one player in the entire NFL two years ago is that is I. Yes, I think you wrong. No, you're rushing things by the way I got. You mentioned Jared Goff the la- when I was last time I did you guys podcast I was in. I was at the Rams capping and he came up to me and he goes, do you just do their podcast? And I said, yeah, he said he was gonna give it a listen because he knows how entertaining I know. Oh, you're the George skies that everyone's kind of scared of because you're just a short fiery Italian that Yeltsin old women. That's you. Okay, cool. I never yell at all then. All right. So Pete, let's do this because we are through five weeks and there's some. There's some teams at the top of the leader of their standings that I think we can all agree like they have had a history of kinda falling apart. You have the Bengals top the AFC north, you have the the chiefs, the top of the AFC west, and let's throw in. Let's throw in the Redskins atop the NFC east. Which of those teams do you think is gonna fall back down earth or which ones are hundred percent for real. Chiesa for real and they will stay there. The rest of that division. I mean, the chargers are okay, but the rest of that is not very good. Denver gave up three thousand yards rushing today. They're not good. So the chiefs will stay there. The Redskins I don't know about it and we'll know a little bit more about them tomorrow. I like what I've seen so far, but now they go to liens coming off the bye if they get ambushed there, then here's the question for that one who does win the NFC. Right? But he any good in that division. I think whoever wins this Monday night games gonna make the playoffs. I think the saints in the NFC south. I think they'll be really good position if they win. But I think I don't know. I think I think the saints are I trust them more than I trust the orange right now. Yeah, you're probably right winter. The game probably does make the playoffs look at that division. Now the falcon can't stop anybody. They're pretty much done the box who knows when they get Winston back and and Carolina. He got a game coming off the bye and home against the giants team that was terrible faithless week. So a lot of the teams, you know, we thought were good, aren't very good, and you know the Bengals are one of those teams that nobody thought was going to be very good as blame, pretty good football. So I think the Bengals make the playoffs. But of course, you know what they'll do once they get in there. The tax, the first game, the wildcard game against the Texans, and it'll be like a twenty to thirteen game that nobody's gonna pay attention to. You got to check already saying that set that Saturday game is is reserved on a calendar for the Texans and the Bengals to get together and play game at like two. Actually beat the Bengals. That Saturday game one. Yes, yes. No, they did not because Marvin Jackson, Marvin Lewis never won a game, so they definitely Texans beat the Texans. Yeah, yes. J. j. watt had like a pick six, something stupid. They played the Bengals than they won because the Bengals stink or or the Bengals for real though, like what is the weakness? What is the weakness in the Bengals right now they're down defense. They went into today last the league on third down defense, but now they got perfect back which will help that. But you know, can they stop anybody consistently doubt that to be their biggest weakness? What is the deal with the falcons? Because I, you know, famously was like, oh, yeah, two thousand seventeen. I loved him. I bet on on my lost a lot of money on them. I'm doing the same thing this year thinking they will turn into the Super Bowl, falcons. Do you think that that ship has fully sailed and do you think I'm not gonna talk about another man's job, but Dan Quinn has to be on the hot seat. If these, if the falcons win like four games this year. No, he get a free pass because of the defensive injuries. I mean, they lost the middle of their defense today. They play without Grady Jarrett. The Jones is not there, and then the two starting safeties are both gone. Yeah, you take away the middle of the defense, you're asking for problems, and then that puts even more pressure on the offense to go out and try and make plays, and he got killed today. I mean, I don't know if you guys saw the game, the guy got brutalize. He got fact six fines and it was just awful. So no, I, I don't gang quiz not trouble. I disappear that defense only put up seventeen points against the Steelers. That's fair. That's a fair. I appreciate you pee because I am. Obviously, I like to you hot takes in and I would just like, yeah, he's on the hot seat because just because but with with that many defensive injuries, it kinda makes sense that they are absolutely. I mean, they lost their best defensive player in the first game. It makes sense that they're getting absolutely gashing there. One in four in the season's over for them. It is over there done time chain, Pete Prisco put the done chain on the thirty birds. Okay. Well, another team that's been kind of knocked up with some injuries is the the Packers. Is this this Mike McCarthy on the hot seat for real, the sign. If they don't turn it around at the end of the yearly being hot tea, not right now in the middle of the season. But I mean, look, when you have your quarterback, basically calling you out during the week for the way you play and and I think that's exactly what he was doing. Yeah, you're gonna be on the hot seat. Look at that team though. They don't run any any of the window-dressing at the other teams in on offense. And that's why I think air rises gets frustrated. He sees the Rams at all their pre snap boop at and how they get guys open and his guys lineup, but one over there to the left and to the right, and they go win. No picks, no rob, no bunches nothing. It's a, it's an eyesore route offense from the nineteen eighties the west coast offense. So I think that there he gets frustrated by that, and I think that's why lashed out this week. Another guy that lashed out Odell Beckham trouble in paradise up in New York. Like, what do you think about a guy that gets a big contract and then like immediately proceeds to to bashes team in in the media. They're all. I mean, everybody's like that. It's all about me. You know what's good for me is good for me. I live by that. I'm a big believer that every player if you ask them to to say what's more important near the team, they would say me 'cause that that's how they make their money. So I get it. I understand. He's frustrated and you should be getting the ball thrown in his direction. A lot more. I get it. I understand it. I have no problem with that. Yeah. Well, he had little Wayne next to him too. So it was like, you know, I don't know what that was. What was that all about? I thought I didn't watch the interviews we were on. I thought on that. What? What? What was that all about? Why was he on? Because they're buddies. They just wanted to like team out on doing interview real quick for some reason. Yeah, but you bring you bring buddies on when you go to your interview, do you do together all the time? Yeah, we sit on shows lap. I bring Ted Nugent to all my interviews. Pete. Were you? One of the the patriots are in trouble real trouble after. Hines, you promise long. Tell me tell you truth till truth. No, I to breed. You're still Vermont, it'd be fine. Okay. And then you got the, you got the car wash, Josh Gordon through the car wash in New England as a way of matter who they bring in their sides, Albert Hayes, who's beyond health of somehow turning their seat life and careers around to making it better players. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to hard to argue with that. So so I actually looking at the standings right now and basically half of these divisions are of decided when we're looking at it. Well, half the divisions. Yeah. Well, I mean, okay, so New England's gonna win that division too much deal? Yup. Okay. Who's gonna win the in the AFC south is Jacksonville, gonna win out once for grabs. You got the chiefs in the west, and then you could make the obviously make the argument the AFC north for grab because you don't know the ba- the Browns. Let's talk about the Browns for second. Do you think the Browns could actually make the playoffs because they have been in every single one of their games? Obviously, the record to two two in one, but they have been. They have. They had a chance to win in the fourth quarter in every single one of their games they have and they really good defense by the way. I mean, that'd be people aren't giving that defense enough credit and Greg Williams on that side of the ball, the plane, great defense. But I don't think they're playing team this year. I think they'll, you know, push for eight season and next year that we AFL team. How about that early prediction? I think the Browns will be a playoff team. Next year isn't that isn't that this year we put? Isn't that almost like a death sentence for the Browns in hear me out the Browns. Either want to go finish like five wins or gets the playoffs this year. Because eight to me means Hugh Jackson sticks around. They don't get to the playoffs. Hugh Jackson, six, six around and I'm sorry. I don't think Jackson is the guy. I think a lot of this fourth quarter stuff. We're talking about the fact there in games and can't close falls on Hugh Jackson, treading water a little bit here. Wouldn't that be the worst case scenario where now Hugh Jackson is linked with Baker Mayfield going forward. If you think you Jackson, not the guy that is, yeah, I'm not saying is or is it but say, but would you rather be eight, six, ten question that's that's kind of they can't be. They can't be Nate Nate, but that's very true. I mean, seven, eight mortar, eight, seven, mourn or whatever don't make the playoffs. Would you rather be that than the? No, I think it's all it's all Baker. It's all the Browns are not judged this season. It's kind of like with Mitch Trubisky in Chicago, where if you have a young quarterback, it's less about wins and losses in more about, is this going to be the guy? And can he prove that he's going to be the guy and Kenny have the right people around him so that he is the guy. So going eight means a Baker probably is the guy, but Hugh Jackson is still the coach. Yeah. But I, I mean, still, I look, they're going to win games this year. They look at their schedule coming up. They got talk about a chance of the offense to get right. They play some of the worst defensively coming up. So I do think that they have a chance to get this seven or eight wins. I just they're not gonna be a playoff team. What about on the other side of the ball ravens? You got them in the playoffs. I did today. I mean, that was awful. Now they gotta play third state road game next week at Tennessee. That's brutal. Are they ever gonna let Lamar Jackson, throw the ball because they just put them in in the put him in a game yet that was ridiculous. Today. They put him in the game. They get driving down the field. They got a little bit of a rhythm and they put him in the game and he throws pass. I take it right out of the rhythm. That's stupid. Yes, very weird how they're choosing to use them. I don't know why the if you're gonna put your backup quarterback on the field, at least like gives the threat that he's gonna passable the they ran one play where he pass today. I'll give them credit for that. But every other time has had the ball like it would be more likely that Ronnie Brown was going to throw the ball out of the wildcat and Lamar Jackson, and he's got a, he's got howitzer on his arm. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me what they do, how they take their team out of a rhythm. I wouldn't be happy Joe flacco getting taken out no situation. Yeah. But I mean, he's also he's had more than enough chances to to be the guy, and so now they're going to try to try dance with someone else include pretty good football? Yes, he has. He has the pressure of Lamar Jackson. What other. We actually lit a fire on them a little Jan. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And RG. Three, let's forget about Robert Griffin. What other what other big story lines you working on that UC like trends at five weeks? We are now at a point where we have kind of a sample size of like, okay, we know what these teams are. We know that the falcons are done. We know that the Steelers are going to be up and down, but they'll still probably be there in December, that kind of stuff. And is anybody, here's the question, is anybody really any good right now who is very good. Yeah, Rams in the chiefs Rams were within a whisker losing to Seattle at home yet people forget it. It's very loud up there and the delicate ears of the LA teams. They're not used to that. You can't tell me think the Rams are good. I mean, the Rams are could Rams on offense. I think the Rams defensive issue to row. They've been just destroyed on that side of the football banged up, so. All right, here's where their issues are ready. They don't have outside edge rushers. Everybody keeps saying we got sue and you got Donald, but met defense the way that defense is build Wakefield's needs to have outside edge rushers. They don't have a problem. Okay. I'll write that down on my tickle file for later who besides the Rams is good in the NFC who's going to challenge them. Who I don't. You tell me there's nobody. Chicago Bears. What they're gonna lose the Miami. Got a little bears. There bears are clearly the class of the NFC. Suicide. We've established that catch a little interested, their PD. Don't you think don't you think Rodgers will get his team right though? Yes, of course he will because he always does. That's why fucking hate Aaron Rodgers because this is what he does every single year. He does his little song and dance hurdle at the oldest team stinks who wanna go somewhere else. And then they end up ten and six or eleven and five, and they win few playoff games. Here's one for you guys ready? Would you we have this debate today in our green room? Would you if you are, is it better to have a cheap quarterback and build your team around rather than pay the franchise quarterback? Yes. In other word, here's what somebody was trying to say that if you have your guy draft him, for example, Jared Goff, but near four off letting them walk, pay him and continue to build your team and get another. That's a, that's a good question that one at all? No. If you have your guy, you have to keep them put. Obviously, there is the the element of you gotta try to like the Rams are going win. Now the bears did something similar with they could afford giving Cleal MAC a ton of money because they have Mitch on a cheap contract. So the Russell Wilson hawks yet. But when you get to the fourth year, those guys, you gotta give him a new deal. Do you give him a new deal and into the fact that you can build guys around him or the, for example, the raiders gave their big contract and they've been hurt by that because he's not good enough, right? Yeah. Joe flacco. The Cowboys. The Cowboys give Chris, got a big thumb. No, he's a woman. Crack Preska. Give us a quick take on deck Prescott. Here's what's wrong with that. Prescott the line hasn't played as well. No, Frederick the other guys have played up expectations. Zack Martin, they have nobody can stretch defense. Everybody sits squats on everything. Can't drive the ball down the field. And. And so you had that all up and it's easy to defend him. Yeah. And he's stone two guys that are just like, I, I don't know. They got cool Beasley and I don't know who else they have their roots. He was routes us when we had him on the show's very rude. His favorite color is grey. Yeah, you can't win with a quarterback that I want a guy who appreciates color rush his favorite color is. Yes, yes, it is. That that can't be. You can't win the Super Bowl with that. You can't have a little. I mean, my favorite colors, purple. That's the kings color of night Hilton. I like that like the Nerpa do seem like a guy who has got. Good. Yeah. Do you have gout. Got a lot to be have no or eat a lot of red meat not need a lot of red meat, either got foot pain, you don't drink. No, but I know people aren't out. They say it's one of the most painful things you've ever had your life back pain and breaking your foot to the three you want. I broke my foot awhile early. Hey, Pete, worst bad actually favorite sopranos episode. Favorite supports took a question I notice. Fucking right. I don't know if I like the last one. Did you guys. Yeah. When they went into the diner, whatever member they journey saw. Yeah. And then what happened though? I can't remember. I don't know. Nobody knows what happened. It was a big mystery. A real quick back to the Cowboys is dead Branko and get sunny where this year. No, at least you. He can't run. Okay. But having a then enough of those guys get run, but he wasn't bad last year. He wasn't good, but like you still like an average wide receiver we're not talking about just with the Cowboys is he gonna get signed anywhere. No, I don't think so. So he's done with his career is over, I would think. So he would side already some of those? Yeah. What's all right. I have my Seekie questions. My last question put promo code taking it ten dollars off, seek purchase promo code. Take Pete. Give us your like give us a story that no one's really talking about. Give us give us the sources, give us something, you know, little something, some fell off the back of the truck. You know what I mean? Like involving the league right now. Or team, like who this guy might be on a hot seat or check out this look. Look for this story coming down everyone's pipeline. Here's a story to look for started today. All the talk about the offense in the league. Look, what happened today? No, what happens. With the gimmicks, the gadget lies. The Phillies special? Yeah. Play a little little shovel passes and spreading them out. Can't stuff. Yeah. Offense ruse. Never again to be able to stop them. Look today started the phone down today. So you think the outcomes in? Yeah, heels in scored on a point scored, fifty points scored fifty was the chargers raiders in scored on a points thing. That's true. No, they didn't know. No, you're right. So you think that this is just a symptom of, you know, early NF early season. Everyone kind of goes crazy for these points, but, but then again, the, you can't say the penalties haven't had something to do with more points being scored every time. Some team gets a third and long, and there's a pass rush. They get roughing the passer and they get I down. Well, it's not just that it's the rules in the secondaries. You threw the ball fifty times of game. You're cheating your team. I mean, because the rules are catered to that, they make no sense. It makes no sense not to throw the football throat or scored. You run the win pay. It's been that way for a long time. It should always be that way to be that way, but he's start figuring out it's like the cheese. There's now you know five games in their offense. Andy Reid is great at scheming things and getting guys open house today was the first time within look the way you wanted to tour. Why is that a good defense? Any pressure in the home throws your homes. They started fit your keeps figure everything out this league figures, the defensive coaches are good. They'll figure it out, scoring Mugo down. It will not stay the same pace. It will not. Do you see the resurgence of the fullback position like I'm seeing it donate donated down. It's bullshit. You like eight? Oh, no, not don't Don. You set a tone to Senate telling when you give the ball to your fullback and it gets to yards donated down. It's donated down. I never look back if I had if I needed a blocking back. I bring like one of my linemen and that's what I would do my offense. He'd be okay. Slugger. You're gonna lead the through the whole. Other than that, I'm in one back all the time with three receivers. I'm not. I don't even fullback. Are we gonna see more of those? Like offset line positions like the the ravens day last week where they put their tight in like next to the center. I love that. I like that too. You know what that was like rubbing somebody's face in. Remember they, they're the ones who complained about the the patriots couple years ago with the formations. Oh yeah. In the league, didn't like it. Yeah, the suction, but that is within the rules still be deceptive. I like it. I thought it was creative. I like it too. All right. So you heard it here fullbacks using a full that creatively is coming back? No, you fullback is donating. Don't ever hand to them can lead the block and whatever don't hand off to them. A little back by the way John Lynn gentlemen, junk. Kuhn was number one. Also, Mike, all style was number two. Fun fact. Did you all start played on the same team as Lorenzo Neal, first season back in nineteen ninety eight. Yes. So he's not. Come on rathman was better in both of bullshit. It's bullshit Pete. You're showing your age. P the average age of our listeners, like twelve years old. They don't know who. And then you go do their homework and look it up. Go do their homework back from. I mean, he did a whole thing on the full back. They do their homework on. Yeah, they should just trust me because I'm the expert and you are you probably never even played fullback? No guard. What about Pete five yard, Pete would never get hit in the head by one of his quarterbacks passes. I don't care how short the guy was. Dirty player. I believe it. I believe it. All right, Pete. Thank you. Hopefully soon. You don't travel anymore though. Your plans. All right. We won't see then ever again. Yeah, for self. For self from the playoff Super Bowl, Super Bowl. We'll see we actually down in Jacksonville. Sneaking into Super Bowl. That's what we do. We're very sneaky. I love it, but we'll see you at the Jaguars AFC championship game in Jacksonville. I'm sure you'll make it up for that. And then everybody Blake Bortles could. So for three fifty AFC championship game and get him a Super Bowl, people would still pick apart. True. It's very, very sad and unfair. It is. Thank you. Pete guy. That interview with p. Prisco is brought to you guys by me undies. Mundy's. 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And obviously not the capstone we were looking for for the biggest fight US history. But I just think when it comes to come either Magomedov and some people, culturally, there's certain things you don't say in lines, you don't cross, and I think for all of us to if you have children, right? I mean, like people say things about my mother. You know, it's off my back. You say things about my kids. It's a totally different ballgame and Connors narrative before the fight and everything. He was saying the lead up to the flight, obviously had an affect on Vive and and I think he was going to retaliate by verbally if need be physically and obviously jumps the fence and it was just total chaos. Okay. So explain this to me because I got into a few debates last night. I was wired. Something about big UFC fight keeps you up all night because you just are so wired in like energized from it. I'm sure you know, far better than I, but what I was the point I was trying to make and you could tell me if I'm wildly wrong here, but there is prefight and there's post-fight prefight I assume everything that is said is part of the promotion. You're trying to sell paper. I use you're trying to get eyeballs. Habib is not exactly the most charismatic guy. Conor McGregor is the charismatic guy who has to carry the fight promotion. And then in the fight world wants, the fight is over whether you hate the guy, whether he said, you know, vile shit. Mike Tyson said, some fucked up shit to you, shake hands and you go the other way now am I might totally wrong in thinking that. No. And I think I'm starting to believe increasingly, that Conor McGregor with every utterance felt like it really was preflight stuff right on. I feel like CONNER has buried the hatchet with every single one of his opponents, and he's gone guys before even Brazilian. How does on jobs who he didn't fight, but Nate yeahs. Obviously they buried the hatchet and have huge amounts of respect for each other, but he was pretty forthcoming and saying that there was going to be no handshake after the fight, obviously, and doing Danis as guy who gets under people's skin and hubby. You know, the thing is too he stayed over Connor like it seemed like he was ready for the fight after the fight, almost immediate right? Doubtless Connor. Yeah, that was actually the part where I treated like visit scumbag, which I, you know, I people were then like Connors scumbag. I think Conor, obviously done some things to that are reprehensible and he shouldn't eat like throwing the stuff at the bus and all that stuff. But I actually thought less I thought could be going into the crowd, was less of a of a black eye on fighting. Then him standing. Over Connor, almost wanting to fight him again and spitting on them. That to me was like, holy shit, dude, like chill out. The guy is you just tapped him out. He's beaten to a pulp like you win with some grace here and you know the, I'm still learning like I didn't even know right now as the guy who called the flight that he had spit on him. And it's interesting too because I have so much respect for even at ovens established so much goodwill with all of us that even an act like this, I can part, you know, and I do think having had now, you know, twelve eighteen or however many hours to process it. I don't think it is this sport altering thing, right? I mean, I do think there's going to be some residue in the fact that we don't have live events the next two weeks. I mean, there's no doubt there's gonna be a ripple here, but I'm glad we're shift didn't happen man because I think for Dana white, you know, say what you want about the call of the fight and what they said after the fight while he was still ingesting information. You know, I've never been more proud to work for a for a guy or that guy that I was last night. Just the way he handled the press conference. I mean, this is just not at all where we wanted to be, and I think we'll move past there. Does he have done to your head? Right? You know, still be able to fight in this country. Does it? It's ok, does Dan have a gun to your head right now as he making you say, this is right in my hotel room, you know? So the thing is, man is like we all everybody thinks Conor McGregor apologised. Right? And I'm just calling it like, I see it, you know. And if you really wanna know, I have a closer personal relationship with e because my broadcast partner, Dan as his teammate, right? So there are a lot of different layers to this. And again, you know, I before we do our podcast mar- you can be sure I gotta watch some more video and everything else, but you know, we'll see what happens. I hope gets his. I'm of it, right. I mean, it was a two million dollar person. And as we're talking here, there's still withholding that. So you know, I'm just hoping or heads prevail at some point, but there are ramifications that are going to be on all sides. Just what is that process right now? They're just holding onto his money until he's cleared by the by the Commissioner, or what does that look like will the police are, I guess, getting video and trying to see everything that happened. Obviously, when we were calling the fight, we didn't see that Conor McGregor had thrown left-hand at somebody who had climbed over the fence. And if he had landed that left hand, imagine if Conor McGregor had knocked out one of these guys Colt who was coming into the octagon. I mean, this could have been a lot worse than it was and maybe people think that's crazy feces statement after what we what we saw last night. But yeah, there were just a lot of. UFC featherweight by gob one of teammates heath real punch. Connor. I believe I saw Connor throw a punch at him. So again, a lot was set last night, but I think in twenty four hours, the picture will be a lot more clear. So who is going to attack in the in? The stands was a one guy that low it out. It's a preliminary. Jitsu coach and longtime training partner of Conor McGregor Dylan Danis and. It's a big part of, I think what he does and went over there through them out the he was just ready to go, you know. And even when Dana. If you're because you're gonna get pelted with beer bottles. Cubby says, I'm ready for this, right? Like I'm fucking ready for this. I'm ready for the beer bottles. That's what I'd like to happen in my belt and let me have a fight with whoever in the crowd wants one. And I think that's just an underlying theme guys are very proud and culturally strong and what they believe in. And I do have some respect for that even though I'm disappointed that his intellect didn't prevail and he didn't handle the situation different. So the craziest part to me is what we just did on this podcast and talking to you is at the first ten minutes is all about what happened when it should have been that Habib? Absolutely dismantled Conor McGregor. There was never in my mind a question. Once that fight started that he was gonna win that fight even when Connor had a chance in the third, he had no pop in his punch because it'd be kinda zapped all his energy. So the the question to me is there can't be a rematch kin there because I feel like a rematch you have to have at least somewhat of an even fight. And I just can't see a world. Where Conor McGregor can beat that guy because that guy is just one bad ass dude. There's no doubt about it, and you know, some speculation that maybe McGregor didn't have the greatest training camp? I, I heard otherwise. I mean, he looked at the in tremendous shape. The way cut went well looked very strong Nolan time. He didn't look great, at least from my point was on fight night. You know, when he was walking in with his wife and he just didn't seem to have that same smile of confidence. You know that just like John Jones, smiling ear to ear when he's walking to the octave done, you know, that was a staple of Connor's walk, and that wasn't necessarily there so. But yeah, I think that if they met ten times would have a great chance to win eight or nine of them. Connor didn't really get off at all. I mean, you can say he won parts of of that third around, I guess. But yeah, I don't know. I think it's gonna be interesting to see how long have you could be out, but you know, Conor McGregor McGregor does have some culpability and all of this, I would think as well. But comic writer is such a transcendent guy and in terms of pay per view numbers and everything else, he's on such different level than anyone else. We have any fight in the game that he wants. He's probably gonna get. And if that's a rematch with Kabeba, the matching will pay and sit and watch it. I've heard that the governor had a hard time getting out of the building last night is that, is that what you heard too? I heard she was, you know, on foot quickly to try to get out of the building. But yeah, that was obviously not what anybody was looking for. And that's really, I think the big concern is the public safety element in all of this, and I just been thankful that we have. We had so much security guys, right? I mean, this was like Super Bowl, style security, and that's why it was all handled pretty well. And there didn't seem to be any major injury on any side. Yeah. No, that's actually a good point because when Habib went into the crowd, there was like twenty five security guard slash cops. It was, you know, they outnumbered the re the the civilian. So to speak, almost instantly holy shit. That's actually, you know, that was a bar stool rough and rowdy. You know, the faith and I to kill. We would have been murdered right there, but yeah, no, that was lying. If I said I wasn't thinking about on rowdy. Just to be in that scene. Right? Because you're so focused during this type of week for me foreign away. The biggest sporting event I've ever called in the last thing you expect and maybe it was not even meet enough think something like this was been a materialized, but you just don't expect to all of a sudden have a brawl like that and then you, you're rushed off the air without a fight recap. I mean, never in any of your show. Have I experienced when I experienced. What do you think was the wilder aftermath from fight last night? Was it was at the brawl or was it when Derek Lewis talk to Joe Rogan about how hot is ball's work? Isn't that amazing? You know, I mean, can we get Derek Lewis on part my case? I mean, don't you are connections? Yes. Please. Please? Yeah. That happen. We gotta get you guys in touch with the Black Beast. No, he is the best. And that's part of the greatest post. By the interview I've seen in UFC history just maximizing that microphone and he is who he is, man, you know, he's been is Sola hyme that guy. I think he could sell out the arena where the rockets play and you know, it's crazy to think on papers, one nine of his last ten and that he now might be position to fight for the heavyweight title. You know, the cardio is gonna be what it's going to be, but nobody wants to get hit by one of those lunchboxes and man full cop. I gotta say, you know, all he had to do is get on a bicycle like he just, what are you gonna do. That was that was the best part of other fight because the black pieced he, he's almost unapologetic about being in terrible shape where like the after the fresh round, he he barely can breathe. And it's like, well, I'm just here. I can't breathe a non great cardio. But if one of these one of these hands lands, you're in trouble, and I love that strategy in fighting. It's it's like a heavyweight, boxing match, and I don't know how much heartened guys had your. Careers. I think PF PFC strikes me as a big heart guy like that and have a lot ahead or I didn't have a lot of harder mental toughness as an athlete in one thing that you part and cardio or huge may and there's no denying Derek Lewis has the will to stay in these fights and and with a broken orbital likely last night he was able to stay in. Yeah, does crazy. So you said that kinda McGregor whatever fled he wants, he Fuqing gets, but if he wants a rematch, do think that there's a chance to be just as no fuck that I don't. I don't wanna fight you. I'd rather retire. Well, I will say there's not going to be an immediate rematch because of a lot of different factors who knows what's going to happen with the. But Tony Ferguson is absolutely possible to deny right now. Eleven straight wins at a hundred and fifty five pounds. His next has to be for the undisputed championship, and I can't say that any ladder. So I think though that at some point in time Akon or can be rematch is gonna have some lights, but I don't think it'll be anytime soon for Connor. What do you want you want to send year? You wanna up a division for supervisor. There's so many different possible. For him, and I just hope he stays on an active schedule because it was really fun to have him back in whatever form. Yeah, good point about Ferguson because that was the other fight that got kind of overshadowed by everything. He was fantastic and he, I mean, he looked in trouble billion times and he did the same thing where you just like, all right, and now I'm gonna win this fight. So my last question to you though, is for Connor, and I think you brought up a good point and I wanna make it as well that I'm not a Conor McGregor apologised. I think people thought I was. I'm just a, there's fight promo. And then after the fight you walk away and and you know, everything kind of is like, well, what was said was said, but we're trying to sell papers and they sold a lot of pay per views. Now, with that said, do you think in the future the Dana will have to rein Connor in a little so that it doesn't get to this personal level where guys are maybe taking it more than just fight promo and not understand, like even be apology. He said something like, this isn't a shit talking game. This is a respect game. It's like, dude, it is shit talking game. Like that's kind of part of. Boxing, that's kind of part of like you need to sell fight. So do you think there will be any raining in of Connor, or do you think this is just a related incident you gotta deal with and going forward you just keep keep racking in the money with Connor being electric if it. Great question talking point because at this point in time, five years in the Conor McGregor 's career in the USC the extent to which establish himself just doesn't feel like the time to to rein him in, and I just don't know that you're going to be able to rein him in. I think that he didn't like what happened last night either. And I think he sort of sick of having to go through all of this legal stuff. And if anything comes his way out of this, you know, I don't think that's gonna be pleasant for him, but I just don't know how you rain him in to that. He's not scripted necessarily. He's just well researched, right. He gets on a podium and he has all this information in his head, and he just delivers it in a way that just as cutting and conniving and everything else. So I just think it's something. Is so special about him and to take it away. I just don't know. I know a lot of pro mixed martial artists feel like that absolutely has to happen. And I just think it's pretty ambitious to think that that's going to be the pep. All right. My last question you were in Vegas the whole weekend, which which group of supporters were you most intimidated by the Irish or the Russians. Definitely the Russians right sub Eve's. Army is strong, no doubt about it. I was surprised that they couldn't really be heard from in the arena, but you do not want to be anywhere near those guys for sure. I mean, the Irish men and women are very friendly, and I think you know, recognize us more certainly than the Russians do. So no, you steer clear those Russians, but I do have a lot of respect for for how they all stick together and they really, they don't care if they go to jail. They don't. They don't think about ramifications. They think about revenge and retaliation if there's something serious enough, and that's just gonna be what it's going to be. So crazy night men and I appreciate the chance to chop it up with you about. Yeah. Follow up to that. You're gonna see more kids wrestling. There's in preparation for a major. I mean, who's going to be the next kid to to wrestle a bear. Somebody's got to be the next to do it on video. I mean, I'm surprised somebody hasn't tried to repeat the yet, right? I wouldn't be shocked if Brock Leser had a whole like form of bears at his Montana ranch. Ever that he just trains them. Yeah, absolutely. Incredible. Are John, thank you so much. Can you tell everyone where they can listen to your recap tomorrow? You got a for your podcast. Appreciate that at the anikin flooring podcast. And I've been a text you the Black Beast number, and I say, you're part of my take within fifteen days as awesome. John everyone listen to it because I'm sure you're gonna go into depth in talk about what a while. I mean, I could list I could talk about listen to this Saturday night to UFC two twenty nine forever. 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Here's what he said in the eighth inning of what may be a doer Di game with the tension of a game, seven Neanderthal Fenway park fans chanting. Yankees suck are eerily like those who chant lock her up at political rally designed to demean female assault victims. Trauma. Okay. Then, tweets, let's let's set the stage here a little bit. Gives them color to it. He didn't actually say, suck he bleeped out correct. It was s Storrow not even. This was a parentheses with the dash attach a dash in dash. Okay. But it was. It was Yankee suck was the word he was going? We can. We can only assume might have to believe that out, right? We don't know. He also before we get into the take quick. One hundred sixty to one hundred sixty six retweets. Guess how many replies two thousand three point. Six thousand reply. That is the greatest ratio of all time. It's pretty bad, I don't. So I guess I don't really know where to start. Yeah, you suck has been going on forever and like, oh, I guess Peter gammons point here is there's tribalism in sports think. Yeah. Have you ever been on Twitter? Dude here said anything bad about anyone's team. Do you see what happens? Like people go down your throat. That's why we root for teams. That's why we passionate. That's why we go crazy. Yeah, but then to tie in lock her up chance and feminism I, I'm just lost. So tapping out tagging you in. Okay. So so the connections that were made in in Peter's brain were he heard Yankee suck, and he heard a lot of people screaming it, and he was like that the syllables lineup to the lock corruption and it kinda rhymes, yes, I'm gonna jump there and then I'm going to jump from there to. That's where he kind of loses me as like going from lock her up to demeaning sexual assault victims. I'm not, I'm I'm trying to put it together in my head. Tappan Hank Hank tatting. No. I mean it is the same. Like at seven? Yeah. Yeah, where am I heard this song before? No, you're right. It's like it's like Peter gammons listened to under- pressure. And he's like this. This song reminds me of Queen and David Bowie. Wow. Yeah, that's okay. Got the same people that you lock her up are generally the same people that roofer sports. Let that no. I think Hank was saying are generally the people that like at least in the news this week have been like on cavenaugh Cy in that whole thing. Okay. So I think that's where Peter's mind was going, but what would we would we say was hot in this reach last week that cheese. My start. Okay. He's just points usually do grab. He was playing hashtag hi-fi. Yeah, he's like, let me just okay. So the aled yes going. Okay. This Yankees. Okay. And what's going on over here? Okay, feminism and and luck replicated. That's cool. And then we'll just throw this here and then maybe maybe a swear word. That's not the you guys can figure out yourself in boom, tweak. It's me. I was weird case of mad libs here's here's what this is. Why I love this tweet. Peter gammons is the perfect person to tweet this because if anyone else tweets, it, they then either delete it or they fight back. He did the old. When you get to a certain age, you just do the tweet and walkaway. He did a full on tweeden walkaway like he, I don't even know if he knows how to look at his mentioned. No, he might as well just like tweeted out and then dropped his phone into a track, right? He has no idea what happened after that. And I love that because that means we can get it follow. You know what? I don't like. I don't like how in Yankee Stadium they do. Have you heard that? Yup. He's a boo-boo disrespectful to people like Ron. Our test who've been sexually assaulted by. Ghosts us. So Bobby Brown also fucked by ghost. Yeah, people forget that. That's actually happened. I think those made them come though, so. Good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. I guess that's better than like ninety percentage. Yeah, ghosts go Sex's real thing. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Peter gammons that's take. Peter has had tweets that he's like dialed that have made more sense than yes, absolutely. He does that. All right. A lot, a lot about tweets. Okay. Next up we have embraced debate is Darren rebel and athlete. Also the stage racers rebel ran the Chicago marathon. I don't know if anyone heard he only tweeted about it and talked about it nonstop for lasts like five months. He rented in four twenty five, which it's good. I guess yet. I mean during if you're going to win. To do it for the engagement at least shave your time down to four hours and twenty seconds. Exactly. Yeah. He looked like a, he looked like a bum running the marathon. Headley closed just draped in weird places. You had a headband. He had like these knee leading. I've never seen a man with skinny legs and Dan reveal, and then he's key. Put up an Instagram story or Instagram picture where he, he looks into prosthetic life. Yeah, he did. He did. He looked like, yeah, so you know what? Actually he might be an athlete because he did. He ran with two. He invoked Roger Bannister the first man to ever run a four minute mile in his like Instagram acceptance, speech to. I don't call that one for winning the Darren reveal marathon challenge for winning the I did it. Yeah, I g I did it athlete now. Okay. Sit because you see his his iphone. Nothing was huge on his on his arm. He ran with a huge owners are menus Instagram's during the whole time. So. So crista him. Yeah. I don't know really salt III on Twitter for for saying that he got beat by someone else will he did a lot of fifteen thousand? Listen DARREN'S go to come back and say, we'll open challenge to you if you ever want to run that mile and you know what? I, I don't think I'll ever reach a point in my life where running a marathon is like a goal that I wanna I know. Absolutely. Hey, do you wanna go be bored for five hours and if I really athletes compete, yeah, listen, I do marathon every single Sunday. I sit on my couch and I watched seven hours of football and my cable box pops up with that little notification that says, are you? Are you still alive? Do you wanna? Do you wanna keep watching football in my my fit bit beeps hey, you've had ten steps in the last hour. You're only two hundred eighty thousand way from your goal, right? Do you want me to notify the ambulance? Yes. Okay. Yeah, that that is always repressing fit doesn't. Yes. It happens a lot. Yeah, you got seventy yet. I'm an athlete to do. I watch a lot more football than you. Listen, I agree with you. I don't think I'll ever. B. i. people laugh makes I don't. I'm not running marathon by choice. I it is like, I don't want to run a marathon. I could. That's okay. It's okay. I will beat him in a mile though. He said anywhere anytime some skill at my back you up next like four or five months, get my core strong, I'm sure, but his houses, let's go shut out. Recurring guest. Does he Linden tell me if during time if I should be impressed by it or not? Yeah, she could run two marathons before during the way more than that, we have a. What's the beef, Hank? What's the beef markets? Martin JR Smith almost gonna fist beaten. I in the last preseason game the year. So what the hell happened because such a funny fight, oh, it was. They were ready to go. Marcus mar was ready to go. Smith chair, smart and Aron Baynes got tangled up, which is like classic going for rebound they got tangled up and then Marcus smart literally just came running in full speed like fish, ready to go had to have Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown holding him back like fully holding back like not like holding back home back when we back like Marcus smart was. Trying to break through trying to throw punches at Chashma th two questions. One is Jason Tatum still nineteen. Yes. How much longer an old nineteen. I don't know he's old nineteen at least six months. Bob is still, I don't know if you guys, he wasn't sports four goals, thirteen minutes, bopping Bobby, breaking news, Jason GARRETT'S spin zone of why he decided to to punt the ball as opposed to go for and fourth in one ready for this, it was a long yard. It was. So it was almost four th into. Yeah, that's true. Other breaking news, Jason Tatum is twenty. Oh, not unimpressive in. Fuck that ruins every get this geriatrics level. Now, my second question is, does Marcus smart know that LeBron James isn't on the Cavs anymore. I think that probably plays a part in like he was now. He's trying to take out all his anger, right? But like the Cavs earn a relevant except for Sam decker is going to have an awesome year. Probably be an all star. The Cavs were relevant. That is a matter Marcus. Okay. I would just smart. Doesn't Mark gets they never forgets beef? Yeah. Word ally. Okay. I'm not gonna see his face. Well, he was voted second tough player in the entire league. Let me ask you guys instead of making a declared of statement that you know writing a check, my asking cash. I'm going to ask you guys a question you can answer. Okay. Would you say that it's kind of a coward move to fight the team that you had a rivalry with after the alpha moves on? No, I that's okay. Does even occur to Marcus mo-, but I. Mart wasn't the Bruins gone. Marcus Moore was not defending LeBron. He was always like, that's they were matched up still be for me, do that if LeBron was still this. Okay. All right. That's that's the only question they can't pick. I wasn't fan of could be fighting. Wait. I said I was a fan of could be fighting. I said, he wasn't fan of sim spitting on this listening. This actually matches up perfectly to that fight. Like in this stance, Habib is Marcus smart and Conor McGregor share Smith. But you see, you see the point of Maske don't you think it's a little fair to ask? I got, he's gone. No, because Marcus smart is such a psycho that doesn't even register, okay. He sees a color. He sees that like burgundy maroon or whatever. The fuck the Cavs called her their primary color. And he sees that and he's like, that is a color that is violent, tragic still know if you fight a team when LeBron's site. I don't know. I don't know. As I asked the question, I didn't make it declared a statement. Ask question upset. Ask the question. We all know like Mark smart, love him. He's gonna shoot like two twenty three. So that's fine. He'll fight someone. He will fight everybody. That would be such a funny. I mean, all energy you, he's the guy you'd love to have on your team. I, I could see Jared Smith getting into a fight on like a hover board, like trying to drive. Punch somebody on like one of those little like motorized skateboard. Yeah. Hurting himself, hurting himself in market smart retaliating by murdering Jerash. Missing tire family? Yeah, Tiverton totally. Or even. All right. Last king stay kings. This is for Ryan Laki. So Ryan Lockie was involved in a car accident in Gainesville, Florida. The same day that he was involved in a police had to show up to a hotel because he was drunkenly trying to kick the door down alleged allegedly. The only problem is the hotel thing happened in California and the car accident happened in Gainesville, Florida. On the same day, get you man. They can do both king stay kings. That is so fucking impressive. Yeah. So Ryan lock de in the past, like three years has been in hot water in Brazil, California, and Florida. Like basically anywhere where you can wear a swimsuit as your actual outfit? Yes, Ryan lock, he's no longer loud fig about how crazy though, because you get the cops called on you at three forty five in the morning in California. Timezone mass. That's three forty, five AM. Okay. So that's seven. Forty five. Yeah. East coast time six forty five, six forty five east coast time. But then like if you get the cops called on, you, usually people like, you know, Michelle for minute. He got on a flight went to Gainesville, car-crash health. Was he driving the car? I think he was driving the car. Yes, he locked. He was driving his Porsche to his home when he realizes is about to hit the car in front of him and slammed on his brakes. The last minute to no avail. He was a million percent watching like a Snapchat show. Yeah, for sure. He's trying to figure out what we're vine win. Yeah. What the fuck wise vine loading. Right? That's our show. Jay Glazer, Wednesday in person, shall we say. Yeah, we just said, let's do it. Jay Glazer, in-person, Wednesday, get excited. 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Maize and Blue grandpas, hearts and coaches

Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast

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Maize and Blue grandpas, hearts and coaches

"The following program is brought to you by podcast. One sports net. Don't forget to download our new podcast. One app. Whether it's our hearts, lungs or other organs. The were diagnosis tends to make us uneasy at Kaiser Permanente, our specialists care for you and about you working together, creating a treatment plan specific to your diagnosis and total health. So from primary to specialty care, fine, reassurance in a great team of healthcare professionals committed to your healthy recovery, visit KP, dot org, slash specialty care to learn more preservation hotel to the mainland states incorporated twenty one staffers street Rockville Maryland, two, zero, five, two. He is currently the head football coach of the university of Michigan wolverines and a former player. His dad and brother are also former players and coaches, but there is more to them than just football. It's time to talk about attacking life each day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. This is attack each day. The Harbaugh's podcast with Jim Harbaugh. Everybody and welcome to attack each day. The Harbaugh's podcast, I am your guide new title. They met bequeath to me. I'm your guide IRA Weintraub the real host of the show or Jim Harbaugh and Jack Harbaugh. We also do have director recruiting Matt Dudek here as well. MacKenzie is here. Now she is each and every week coming up on the show. Talk a little bit Michigan versus Maryland, Michigan versus Wisconsin coming up. Our guest coming up is Michigan men's basketball coach Giambi line, and later on the show hashtag Jack, talk here on attack each day. The Harbaugh's podcasts a reminder to subscribe to us on apple podcast. You can listen to by the podcast one app or on podcast, one dot com, and please follow us in contact us on Twitter at AD podcast, or you can use the hashtag Jack talk. And we got a tweet for after last week's game from Wayne hilly, and he tweeted it, and he said, tidbits, I gather from listening to add AD podcast. This week one too many damn jacquard boss. We learned that you had that conversation that there were what four or five at one place that Jack Harbaugh they've Kinnock stadium. We had that story on the podcast last week and number three was the Brennan still lives in Ann Arbor and his grandson plays flag football with little Jack. I think he visits in Arbor to watch his grandson play, but that was a tweet from Wayne hill. And you can tweet us at ADD podcast or using hashtag Jack talk. I normally would open up by saying congratulations coach on the win, but I'm asking to say, congratulations coach, your grandfather. Yes, those great moment last week, early Thursday morning about three thirty AM over the u. of m. hospital. My son's wife Britney gave birth to seven, pow, fourteen hours twenty two inch, long baby. Jacob. Alexander horrible delivered by the great Deb Burman and I gotta be honest with you. It was. I was just kind rolled along with the okay babies common seen few of these seven and excited about it being. Grandpa versus today? Yes, yes, it was. I mean, I can't tell you how how need of a feeling just to know like this is now happening there generations kind of look out and go. There's going to be hard balls, you know, for another generation. And you know, we've got another generation would say too damn many Harbaugh. A lot of people suggests good feeling to know that there's there's another one out there. Next generation, selfishly, I was thinking about myself a little bit just sticking the entertainment, the entertainment. I'm gonna have you know watching having another another boy to to watch, you know, hopefully play sports hopefully, but you know, whatever he gets into, they'll be something that will know be able to go to games and maybe gets into something else, but hopefully sports, right. I mean, all the lessons that you're learning now from him as a grandfather, you could implement them as a grandfather that you maybe can't is a dead. I mean, there's some things I bring value. I mean, I I know how to I'll be able to teach them how to ride a bike. I'll be able to teach them how to climate tree. I'll be able to do the things I do. I can teach them how to throw. I could teach him how to hit a baseball and catch your baseball and your dad. There's lots of problems. And so you're dead, who was I'm sure your kids have considered for a long time to be a great grandfather. He's now though a great, he's best friend. He's a best friend. I hate to throw blanket on this, but I'm somewhat disappointed in you. Why is that? Well, what I do, I screwed up well on it hadn't been a week and I've taken on Friday Jackie, and I and Sarah went over to see the baby. You see Jacob. He was bright eyed and bushy tailed. I mean, he was excited Sarah and Jackie. And I were told the story about Britney how you were there for the entire evening. Baby babies born stuck around for a couple more hours to make sure things were going well. And I thought for sure there's no possible way that we would not have a wingspan on this young man. We had a weight. We had a length, and I asked the question to the nurses. She came in what was the wingspan? And she said they had no wingspan. So as you were on call and. Yep. What happened. So I did exactly what you did with my kids. You told me, Jim, as the grandfather you told me the sun to make sure you get a wingspan, not just the the, the weight and the length, but also make sure we spread out the the hands spread out the fingers and make sure that you get the wingspan. Will we spend and as a son? I did that I got. I made sure we got the wingspan when the when the baby's born, just a mom, the sun and the baby that are that are in there for that. So this time around as grandfather, I did what you had trained me to do. I said, Jay, make sure you get a wingspan Jay's going to take the hit, just the height that just the way, but also very well done to wingspan very well done. So I think I did Jay's going to regret maybe I didn't emphasize that enough. I didn't communicate that. He's gonna regret this someday. Some recruiters are gonna come around. When Jacobson and a freshman in high school and they're doing valuation on him and they're going to say j. Jimmy Jacobs wingspan. And he's going to say, I would have liked to have done that, but grandfather, Jim wasn't on. He's going to turn it back to you. I promise, you know, because my first Cup, I didn't get a wingspan either because there's some things that it's a real veteran moved to be the dad and get that done. The first couple of times I didn't get a wingspan either because I mean there's other things on your mind. You're under some stress. You're just trying. You're really trying not to have the knees buckle and be that dad that goes down and faints in the delivery room. I mean, you just try. You're trying to, you're just trying to get through that. You're trying not to screw it up, but the disk quickly down the road. And then when you're when you and John were born at Toledo, I gotta go back to those years. First of all, we had no idea. Boy girl. We didn't know even there where you even at I was at the hospital for all three bursts all three hours there, but I, but about an hour, Jackie was in labor for about an hour. And then it started to get where she was really in pain, and they told me I had to leave. I had to leave the room and I didn't argue. We had this rumor fathers were in their other fathers like two or three other father sitting in an area where, hey, how you doing we, she well, and we're kind of giving each other support where all the other stuff is going on that fathers now are a part of. And then at some point in time, a doctoral committee, a smile, his little hat and all that on there, and he'll go. Don't. They were little hats were a little hats and they go Mr. Harbaugh. Congratulations. You have a son, so I go in and when you go in there, all everybody's there got stuff on them and cleaned up, and they wife's feeling good and you kind of celebrate, then you go out and get a haircut, so you you don't want that kid to see without a haircut. I mean, don't even look that and thinking a little shaggy around yet. So I went out and got a haircut, each time that are three warm. Did you get haircut? No, I need one right now. I haven't had a haircut since porn. Training. Been a, I would call Jerry. I'm been around eight or nine weeks. Well, the call Jerry. Maybe you can come down here, get make it down the street. Having a time Brown hasn't gotten one either. We were just talking about that this morning. Does he trim his mustache z. let that go to. That's a good question. I don't know. It's to get him on next week checkout. It's a good question for Dr blitz. So you had a great week obviously to become a grandfather, and then that goes into the weekend and after we get the weather delay safety, very important. So there was a beautiful day and you guys had a terrific football game through two quarters. They had three first downs and brand seventeen plays. I think in the first half and then second half a lot more of the same. I really nice performance by your team to get the homecoming victory. I really appreciate the team and all the coaches, everybody it was a. It was a game where players made plays, and that's what it usually comes down to guys making plays. And, and our guys really did that shape and. I thought he was probably the biggest catalyst for the entire team. Chase win. Avenged can continue to play like an animal. The guy's playing great football, Zach, gentry had a had a great game Koran hick they went over two thousand yards in another hundred in the game. Sean mccune is probably the one that would say he may be bought blocking right now better than any player on our entire team. And I put Ben Mason right there in that in that comparison. Sean mccune is allowing us to do so many things he's blocking ends. He's blocking linebackers. He's blocking safeties. He blocks whoever he is assigned for tight end to be able to block an end outweighs and by sometimes forty fifty thirty, he's doing an incredible job and he made some tough catches grandparent and make make it easy on them on the reverse pass. So many other guys, Devin Bush had a tremendous game again. Also, he did a great job in communication getting our defense lined up. Also jasmine Mattel us back end there was so much shifting and motioning going on, but it was. It was incredible. The falls most kick ass new drama is about to kick off Jack out Wednesday, October tenth to highly anticipated new series. All American premieres on the CW. And of course all American. You know, this is about it's about football and you can't beat TV shows about football, right? I really enjoy these football shows. I really do all the way back and so I'm really looking forward to this. This show suspense and superhero mastermind, Greg Berlanti producer of massive hits like Riverdale and black lightning is about to kill it in the sports. John as well inspired by local football hero, Spencer pacing her all American is about a high school football fee numb from south central who get your to play in Beverly Hills. And he goes to play there for Tate digs because Tae digs crushes it as Beverly Hills, high football coach, Billy Baker, a former star player in his own right, who sees himself and Spencer coming off of two losing seasons. He also sees Spencer as ticket the job security, it's a lot of pressure to put them high school kid. Let me let me. Ask you a question. Is there any chance that I might be able to get a walk on? I think there might be a place for me on this show. I think the assistant coach, special teams coach, maybe a Beverly high secondary coach. That's my specialty. The secondary coach you could do running back coach to. I've heard some some accolades, especially secondary well, Billy promises Spencer the chance of someday go pro and give his family a better life. The relationship between a coach and a player who each have everything to lose is the driving force behind some pretty intense drama, both good and bad. If you could draft a fantasy football team for fall TV all America be illegal, its own, catch the series. Premiere of all American. I know where Jackson ABI or at least we're his DVR will be of Jack's dot available, catch the series premiere of all American Wednesday, October tenth on the CW Harbaugh's will be watching the other thing about babies being born. This is just the thing, the ones that are during the season, you always correlate it back to the game that that was that week. I had some babies being that have been born during season, my son, James. Was born on September. Fourth, and I was playing at that time. We had a huge win against the New York Jets at twenty one point comeback and my son. Jack was also born on September. Fourth, I was coaching in San Francisco, and we beat the Packers on the road a couple of days later. And then Katie was born December seventeenth in Orange Bowl, full preparation for the Orange Bowl. Addy was born on October. Seventh, two thousand eight hours quite that the USC game because that was that was like Tober sick. She was born to six and USC was on a seven, two different years. I still equate that that that was a big win. That was. That was a pretty big win. So yeah, to have Jacob born mid week on a Thursday morning before a win against Maryland leaves a good taste. You'll get get a nice game ball painted up every time. You know, one of the kids born, you know the week the day or two before a game, and then we win that game. Get a nice game at help us out. Now. We had three births here within the last two or three weeks last. Yeah, within the last month. Yeah, last three weeks. Yep. Sean McKay Sean McGhee with lane McGee no-win span to not to my knowledge. Then we had Martin Sanni with his wife, Tara and baby rose, no wingspan to my knowledge. Then lastly, we have a Jacob horrible last this last one. So it's been pretty incredible from that aspect as a great grandfather. Yes, there's time may offer a piece of advice. Yeah, I think everybody listening would love to hear that we need wing spans. Yeah, I was gonna come at time when that's going to be important. I can't tell. Emphasize that enough. We asked for infant wing spans in our recruiting profile for nearly every and very few. I would think so. Yeah, I got. I stick up for j a little bit. I mean, because I asked Jay afterwards, what's the wingspan? He said that he tried to get it, but they said that he couldn't do it. Then the doctor was the same doctor that brought Jeb Berman Debbarma and we have a wingspan on on young. We we do. I think I was more persistent than Jay took the no, no. What you were defending son, and then you just kind of drew. That was, he just took the no didn't quite didn't have the rebuttal back. It'd be persisted and come back with the argument. There you go. You never strong enough count on oil. He welded. Well, he will in the next one. One thing I will say. We've got another one. We've got an, I don't know. I don't know if we can announce it though. You know, sometimes they don't mind the only one knows this. We got another. We've got another got one a couple more coaches at have have them into, are we allowed to think one for sure is is public. Will you be the one because I'm not going to be. I don't wanna get partridges. We're talking about, yes, Borchert where you just let the cat out of that boy. Oh, boy, always, Matt Dudek. Sorry. I'm so sorry. Mersa. Well, she's showing I think people are win. Imagine coach partures there in February, and then Kelly king who is on our front desk. She's also I believe, February from that mistake for number two number two for Kanter and list Tanner, thank you. I didn't know if that one was public. So I was holding out one a little bit. Jacquard ball, I believe they're February-March also. So when we had that Easter party here last year, and that's really the first time, the new staff and everybody all the kids. I mean, there was fifty kids down there and we decided six more for next Easter. So we're, we're rolling. We may have to cut this out, but I know what Bo Shem Becker be saying right now we aren't working near a hard enough. That's where he would go with. Stay right in, but I will take this batch just football here. It's not just academics at the, that's that's the direction, family family coach. And I've talked about the daycare open them in a daycare across the street. We've even had that conversation over dinner. So Overeen you know, you have the bo- class. You have the, you have the gym class. You have the ios class. You have the different classes, each age group, the Bo would be the, maybe the infants. I don't know. I mean, we, we figure. Harbach come in and teach a class a. Luli we did one of those seven thirty staff meetings here. We'd you sitting around the table, says guys, what hell are we. It's been a lot of fun this week. Needless to say in the in the building with the great news that has happened in on the football field as well. And I'm still waiting to find out and maybe I have to reach a call myself to find that I swim coach hasn't gotten a phone call from the track team asking if Ben Mason his time to hurdle for the. I mean that that tells you how good of a game it was that we, we said, how great the guys played. Ben Mason's hurtling over a guy was not referenced. Be watts, pick six was not. So that's how great of a game that we had. I've never seen a guy that big hurdle. Those pretty cool what the moment for me going back to the seventies in John Wang Lurs quarterback at the time that I was here and watching the great throw against Indiana and to watch Jared Wang, learn, lose more that touchdown, not an easy catch. I mean, he had to lay out and he had to extend his arms into in the end zone and then to watch him jump off the turf. I mean, as a father that had gone through here and then he scored that touchdown that had to be one of the great moments. I know for me and I certainly know for the wingless. Oh, it was incredible. So we are a story on this. Forget, do we have time you go ahead so I- couple things to rest of the story there, Texas, Jared, and John later that's this that EBay said, what's it been? Maybe thirty eight years since a wangling scored a touchdown in the big house. If I put the caveat Johnny. I'm sure you scored a touchdown in the big house, right? I know you through a bunch of touchdowns and then he takes it. Bagging said John. John said, he never scored a touchdown in the big house. He he got a few inside the two yard line, but he, he never actually score one. So as a Jared wangling scored the family touchdown in the big house. Then the other part of that story was you saw Jared jump up and he was really excited and and and fist bumping, etc. Well, it was just pure Cass after that because we could not find him as we're trying to go for two. I personnel group sent out there. Jerod wasn't in and. Then they called time out. And then we sent a different play in different personnel group, and it was Wang personnel group to have him and Mason in the backfield at the same time, and there's no Jared Wang Lord to be found. They finally tracked down. He was up, you found found them. You see what's up into a stance. He was told that he was in in the stands high, five hundred or he was behind the Lambeau leap or something. He was behind the bench high five and his brother. Yup, absolutely. Yep. And then they got him and his first thing he came without his helmet, then he had to go back, get his helmet, finally got him out there on the on the field, and we can earn the respect for the heck of a block grape block Hecker lack any celebrate that block. But the respected the players on the team have form. When he scored the touchdown, he he started down the sideline the entire team. Many met about the twenty our line. It was like going through a gamut, the God let you know he was high fine to players going over to the bench, and they were hugging him. He was sworn by the players what? What a tr- tremendous tribute to him and his contribution to this program? Yeah, it's a special team that way the, they really like each other and therefore each other, you saw the same thing with Brandon Watson when he but I couldn't get the brand new to congratulate and there. So many guys on the team when Michael one, four and went down. Yeah, we've seen a few times that the whole team to be like that and the the hush of the crowd, a lot of respects. And you can tell the love on the team. So I wanna I gotta ask now maybe that was what was going on the track coach called you yet looking for a hurdler from Ben like are they seen Ben based on time to spend some time on them, it'll team to help out. I, I don't think I've ever seen a two hundred sixty pound guy hurdle a defender. We see him truck over truck through guys, but not actually hurdle over and that really, I mean, our whole batch, you saw guys get off the bench or from the sideline. They were moving. You're not feel a movement and precedent precedent from the from the back, you know, and. That really energized our team a lot. I asked ban yesterday if he'd ever done any all your. Quite a bit in high school quite a bit in highschool. You've done that maybe out of compassion, you probably would really hit some guys in high school that put a put them through the turf. So maybe it was that a compassionate does a great plan having a secondary coach for about twelve or so years. I know exactly what went through that defensive back mind. He saw this guy coming in and he saw the that the beady I looked at that Ben will give you, and he was going to be a arrow in the snow. He was going down to the knees in the ankles. He what he didn't want any part of a mobile Bubba, the waste, and he got just a tad low. It's it's probably smart. He may not have made it to the next game because Ben would have he's toured sixty pounds. A full full head of steam is going to go through just about anybody on the defensive side of the ball. Does it was allowed to jump to see the guys they've already got momentum built up. I mean, he was kind of almost come on. It was, yeah, it was. He didn't have. It wasn't running real fast. He was kinda just caught. It turned around and then almost an in-place vertical jump and then back down it was I was pretty impressive. It was a nice play, and that was early in the game. Of course you're going to get the win forty two twenty one. And then it's onto Wisconsin, Nike him coming up here, just early thoughts leading into the game against the badgers as we know with Wisconsin, always tough physical matchup for you guys. Yeah, they're, they're really, really good. They're really sound, you know, they, they don't beat themselves. They got tremendous players or quarterback tremendous player. They're running back as a tremendous player. They're there. They've got to great safeties on defense. They've got the. Tough guys up front, they're they're big on both lines. That's the physical team and really well coached, and it's going to be a big, big challenge at task for our game for our team. Excited about it. Looking forward to it. I can imagine this week when they changed the game, you know, from early into the seven thirty game at Bo was up in heaven and trying to find Woody working through the bear Bryant's and everybody he ran into Woody Woody. You and me Saturday night seven thirty. This is one of our kind of games, seven thirty. It's going to be knows on nose toes to toes. This Wisconsin and Michigan team are kind of game, and they'll be watching from vote. Football's Valhalla. You have a couple of cigars. Bo have a couple of cigars. He Woody will enjoy this one. Absolutely. 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But a lot of supplies that day I came in seventy three through seven. Long. I don't think I heard louder applause in the time that I've been around machine, what a great tribute to thank thank you. Now it's a, it's it's wonderful for our kids to be out there and being. I mean, they are so thrilled that the university gives us that paternity in that venue to go out and. Recognized their accomplishments and we like going out there. We want to go out there every year if we can, but you gotta win championships to do it. We wanna have you out there two to honor you guys. So first foremost, how are you feeling as we bring the the bypass brothers here. Six. Six bypasses. Do. I feel great. I just yesterday I did the beat Cam clinic for an hour and a half. And then I came in coach for three hours and Kathleen things. I'm pushing a little bit too much and I probably am, but it's what we do. I'm delegating more I rather than I ever have. And that's I think this down the road I can do more of that now that I realized the gym doesn't fall down because I let somebody else do at drill. So that's gonna. That's gonna be the benefit of this one. There's a silver lining and everything. I can't do everything. And so I'm letting other people do it and it's working fine. Have you? You inject had conversations about the recovery while I, my doctor, Dr ego got in touch with the right about with Jack and Jack Jack, and I exchanged voicemails a few times. But I was taking a lot of naps in that first week when Jack was trying to get me and we missed by that time. I got an awful lot of good info and I didn't much trouble coach anymore. We, we had it under control. And when you live in Michigan and you got this hospital in this cardiac center. Around you, you, you know it was okay, but I didn't have to listen to the coach to get good information. Good information. We're getting information from the pet. Doctor Dr Harbaugh I just want to just a quick story. I know I don't get too much here, but I did the surgery over in Wisconsin and that was in April. So then we moved here in July. So I transferred to Dr eagles. So I went to him in the first time we did the cagey and all the things they did blood pressure and all I went through my poems or sweating. This wait for Dr Hewlett community came in his white coat on this thing around his neck. The thing they check your heart with and all that. And he's got this look on his first first time I've ever met him. I'm waiting and he goes well, this, and then he goes, but the dreaded, but word and I thought, oh my God. They found stuff that in the word and he had this look on his face and but what kind of football team we going. I said, doctor, I'll becoming a lot. Don't you ever do that to me? Kim eagle Dr was great because I remember when I heard that you went into the hospital and you had the signal for the enzymes and we're still getting checked out. We call Dr eagle and he he looked into it and was we were thinking about airlifting you back here in Arbor, but it was it was too far along and you needed to get the the surgery there, but he's been fantastic. I mean, from the from the minute from an hour after it happened, well, he was Bose guy is right out both through that. They wrote a book together. That was one of the first things I got from him here. Here's bows book with. I just read about you gotta learn about the heart and how it goes. It's fascinating because it's got a good, great combination of how did you find out about it? What what were the signals that you got? Just just, you know, in your sixties here and you you get. I said that, you know, I need more than just a regular physical, getting executive physical, and, and but I should get stressed as and he said, you should get. One every two or three years. So I almost missed it. I mean, I, I had to go recruiting Jim and so I was like the the physical and the head like an hour physical. And I said, well, we gotta do stress this. I said, I got plane to catch. So I left and I collect the plane and went recruiting and then came back and Dr eagle reminded me, you never got that stress tests. And we've been watching this and watching because my dad had several heart attacks. So he's he ended up saying to me, we're getting that stress test. And so I said, and I was also getting a colonoscopy at the same time. So I said, which do you want me to get that? And we'll do that the next day and I did it, and then he's calling me the next day and gave me the, but. Everything looks good, but you gotta blockage go, you got you. Got something keeping blood from getting to your heart and we gotta look at it. And the next thing they looked at it and actually knows five thirty in the morning and I'm, I'm on an operating table. It was good. I call coach, I, we something we were talking about. You're talking about the colonoscopy, I think, but why called you? Yeah, we were talking about something with with recruiting or some. I was asking you some questions and give me some good advice, but you were you at just had your colon is. Well, Jim, I just had a coal Ashby. I know what that's like. Yeah, you're in. You're in. You're in a fog, but can you answer this question. Did I was out a phone. We were at a phone for about fifteen twenty minutes. I really because I need you to help train. Lock it. And then maybe a day later I read in the newspaper and every stress test like the next day. And then certainly, you know, bang. They went back. There was like, I don't know if you've got my tax. You probably know. I got four hundred fifty Tex once the announcement phone, my daughter had my phone. It was just blown up and blowing up and blow it up. But I got yours. I, I said. That's a tough day where you go for Colin going asking you get bypass surgery man at four hundred. How many. You couldn't count it. It'd be two hundred. And I, I'd get Kathleen or it would get rid of fifty fifty more. It was just great emails and as great and get. Well, I still have a thing get well, things that I haven't even answered yet, and people are so nice. They were really, really great. John. I got four. From your John. John beeline is our guest here on tacky today the Harbaugh's podcast, and I'm just as you telling us stories in your laughing about it. It's great that you can laugh about things because they're obviously very serious conversations and I did learn. We have one of the things in common. Both of our dads go to Dr eagle and he's the best. So I'm grateful that my dad is in his hands and we're all going to be patients or the healthcare system at some more how lucky I would he be here. I sit at all the time when it comes to Motte, which you're now a grandfather so is obviously a very important part of our families. My goodness. Yeah, absolutely. So the timing of it worked out and you've talked a little bit about it. You ended up missing the trip overseas, but it still worked out better timing wise in if you got that call in all in September or October yet, that's why we do the stress says, when when you know I do my physical sort of when you have some time. But yeah, it was it was they said three years going, you're going to be out three to four months. And here I'm at two months right now, but it three to four months. And I said, well, that should be the start of the season. And let's let's do it right away. And there was a thought about, well, let's go to Spain and Kathleen, she wouldn't listen to any of that stuff. We were going to do anything. Let's just go and get this thing done that. I had no idea though. I know I'm sure saying he had no idea what they said. You feel like you when you wake up, you feel that got hit by a Mack truck and that's exactly feeling in your chest and everything. But every day feels is like a Volkswagen right now a little bit better every day. And as you said, you have three guys and really it's not just the three assistance staffers to, but you have so much faith incompetence in those guys that go. Overseas. That's right. I think Jim does a superior job at that as well as that we can't do everything and you gotta rely other stat staff. I, I read, I read fill nights book shoe dog, and he was amazing at delegating to other people, and I've just trying to do more and more. But when you when you when you began coaching as high school coach, we have no assistance and junior college division three, you rely on yourself and now I'm relying and others, and it's all going to work really well. That's how we get heart attacks, torture. Just trust them. We're over sleeves. We delegate nothing and we'd take everything personal one of the heart attack Absolut absolutely coach when you really need things about coach beeline is that he is never served as an assistant coach. I know that which is unique because most people come through the ranks, but you still picked up along. I know recommend anybody try and follow that because that's, that's all God's will. That's just an incredible amount of luck. So new fan highschool, but but it does. You are a head coach you are. You are. Side he Saudi was was saying to me after the tournament coach, I don't know how you do you have to span how you've done this and it's twelve hundred s at twelve hundred games now, head coach. So that would kill football coach, probably right. Twelve hundred as they go a long time ago. One hundred twenty years old. Oh, man. Yeah, but it it is, but then I look at them and I see the games are three and a half hours long that might kill me. That's a five overtime and overtime game. You guys have more stress in that during the games I was are over and we can't do much about it too much thinking he's gotta be. There's is. They said, there's too many huddles. All these things are going on and people are second guessing you and your second. I don't want to get guess myself just make I can make a call. I think that's an impressive thing to me as a coach, watching you coach now sitting next get something I've had the tickets. Yeah, which almost got pulled from you and other John. Say what you to you got, I don't know who you're gonna be playing. I mean, the little sisters from the exactly that's the only game I will ever come back to sit next to you. Tell the story John, you gotta tell it was it was like maybe your first year or something you came in and it was the year. There was a second. Yeah, it was second or so he was you. I, I maybe early on your well. He would Abell. Medicine now, Minnesota versus Michigan overtime game seventy six seventy three. That's the second time you've been that was the time he never have it. Yeah, because you said the time before they had lost during the game. I mean, the game's not over Minnesota was they were making a run with the game was within four or five? Yeah. Coach beeline looked at me and said, if we lose this game, you're never. You're never you're the last time you came here and sat and he's saying, we lost. We lost coach coach, we lost. We still got time. You check with you. Jack, was with me. Yeah. Yeah. We were just very, very, you know, I got out Glick over there, you know and it's really cool. It's really cool. I'm really, I don't pay as much attention as I should, but I try to say a load to everybody. That's there in those Jack Nicholson seats we call right. But if you're coaching poaching every second on the offense, aside the defensive side up at the time out, I mean, you go and you talk to your. A lot. Talked to other. I don't even know what I'm doing over there. Sometimes all I know is that you know, I'm just so focused on that game. You don't have time and you know, they said, what do you get nervous? I don't get I. I'm nervous before every game. It's just like think about everything go wrong. And they tell me that that's what great leaders do they. They're very anxious before games because they're always thinking, well, is the enemy over here is the enemy over here. They're they're trying to protect their troops. So you're always a kills me. It'd probably happens the gym to like our before the game. Somebody says they might run a fumble risky against you or they might run, you know, a box in one I'd say, don't even tell me that crap, and, but you just go. But it's like survival. It is not. I'm not nervous. I'm trying to. I'm trying to make survive in what's next. What's next? What's next? You don't. You don't get nervous. You're just trying to survive. I think Winston Churchill actually said that. He was quoted as saying that better somehow better to be anxious or better be nervous or worry before the battle than the dirt during the battle. Just butchered it, but it's it's exactly what you're saying. You're on your on point though, McKenzie. Can you go to the? I think Matt's look it up as we speak to find out where the quotas from, did you know that sixty six percent of men lose their hair by age thirty five. And the thing is when you start to notice hair loss, it's too late. Is that a hairline slowly started to move backwards. 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Wasn't that wouldn't ever have a moment of levity before a game or game, Ron, twelve hundred games. I can't remember one moment of women. No, I, you know what? I sit in there and the game, and I got this little Catholic prayer book that I bring out that I just read. I read stuff that has just gives me peace before a game, and that's what I, that's what I'm doing like in before the game or I just look for little quotes what I try to see the team, what does team need right now? And sometimes nothing and let my assistants do it, but it is. There's always something in I, I want to go out there in front of that team with so much confidence every time even though in in the other room, I may not be as confident is I'm going, they're going to see a confident coach go out there now. I hope I exude that, but it is. It is difficult when you were you raised in in a situation where you're when you have a Irish mother or the other shoes. Gonna drop all the time. Watch out something wrong could happen. You raised in the parents raising the depression. They were always waiting for something bad. Happen. So you go through that life and you're just sort of waiting for it, but it always seemed to work. It doesn't always work out, but it's worked out enough that I'm sitting here is go drained out doing this podcast. We we have a term for that in the Harbaugh family. It's called scary. Good, scary. Good. Yeah, very good. You know, you know that the trees will not. They can't. They're going to at some point right fall. They're gonna. They're gonna. They're gonna fall, but and the and the law of averages will eventually catch up to you and you just try to stand guard and and and the limit bay along. Well, as long as it goes, well, you know that something is out there be ready for it. It's interesting. You said that I kind of subscribed to that. No, there's no question. The Irish mother. Always go wrong. I mean, usually out of the Irish game over there and then you in the depression. I mean, you're on the depression, and we talked about my, we talked about my family a little bit and the saving private Ryan. My my mother sat there and watched two cousins not come home and another one get killed on the day on the day, the vide in another nephew or another die in the steel mill. He wasn't even in the service. These people grew up with such tragedy that when they're teaching us about life, they have to think about that. I totally agree. And I, it's a message that I really I mean for whether I'm right or wrong, really try to send to the to the to the youngsters to the players to these college kids as much as possible is like, here's what could happen the I'm talking about outside of, yeah, this is this is the risks you'd better think long and hard about all the things that could go wrong before you go to this party or that game. Getting that car with that person or this or that. I mean, that's a and that's all I really believe that's what we get, and that's all we can do to. We got advise it and hopefully they, they know they'll, but but we see how many times have you seen? Football coach, basketball coach, say that, and then somebody did a knucklehead thing right afterwards and it changes their whole life. But hopefully we've done enough of these things. That's why we love coaching, right? Because somebody's telling them the right thing and most of them are doing it and it changes their life's a really changed their lives. Coach. I know we were here doing podcasts in the spring into the actually late spring practice because coaches I have to go, I go introduce coach of the football team. You came in here to talk about what you were talking about. Saving private, Ryan story. Give a cliff notes version for the podcast listeners that haven't heard your story. Yeah. So my mother grew up with thirteen in her family, and then in the same count of tunnel wanted New York, right her. She had four cousins. There were boys and two that were girls and they all you know. They went into different times, but after Pearl Harbor, there's this mass, you know, everybody enlisting. They were all going to couch or maybe they're working in the steel will where my grandfather worked and they all went in and several went in the airborne second hundred. I someone in the or the or the army air. One was a pilot and sure enough on on. Normandy, tool of my mother's first cousins were killed in action. And then one was found later saving private, Ryan one was shot down in Burma and survived thought they thought he was dead for a year and a half. They thought he was dead for a year and a half. And apparently my mother's aunt still, she said, he's coming back. She feels he's still alive, and then he's walking through the door one day and that with all that set. And then I have two ankles. One was my was my coach at my AD at LeMoyne was injured at best on in the battle of the bulge came played was right hand. It came back and played left-handed. Conceicao got drafted by the Celtics -nother -nother hyung-chol Joe went over and and he went in with Patton at the very end of the war and and but then the one on cool, there's supposed to be the best athletes stainless steel million three or four kids. And then he died the day the day. He died. In a steel mill accident. So these people had through incredible things. Put it made it made them so tough, everybody, so tough and some of the times what we're what we all try and do is protect our children from adversity, and we certainly want to do that. But some adversity is really good for you, and you have to embrace it and makes you better coach when he spoke to the team that I think for the players. And you've talked you and your data talked about it really brought it home to them that much more to, here's coach, Bela, Tana story. Then they go over to Normandy as a part of your trip, and they made it a point to pay respects to be lines family. Yes, they did. And that was very, very moving great up of coach to do and really painted a picture before we went to Normandy, just boys in store for them, and then they were interested in finding if they had a family right Burr that fought in the war. If they had somebody from their town. That's, I mean, that's we were the same way. We had no family member that that that fought. But I mean just to go look at a gravestone and see the state, you know. You know, for him, it was Ohio for me mission given thinking about me on those graves known only to God, wow. In the parents and grandparents and went over there knowing that they lost yet. Right and sun and knowing what we look grave. It was that coach be let also talk to our football team about about football about team, and he thought he thought at that time thought he saw something special in this team. That's here right now and told him how how important it was and what his basketball team had gone through and and how they came together as a team that that really resonated with the fellas as well. We, we have a great. I mean, it's amazing and the, whether the guys that they played for Jim and other coaches in the pros now, or they all many come in as freshmen and many of them come in and they're in those summer programs where a lot of athletes on campus the campus, but there's they have time to really get to know each other and. Argues have really close associations with some of the football guys. You don't think it's really cool about you. Coach is how many of the football players you know? Yeah, and interact with the know by name and they know you by name bet you'll use when when he went into the submarine, nobody knows it. When he went, I was allowed in the summer. I've been in the submarine, they'll Sam, he's not the only separate and I went over and I just I observed things. I just love being part because I did coach football for three years in high school. People might not know that I had like four place at the right for place left. I still got one parent probably mad at me because I called a screen pass on third and ten didn't work or something, but I loved. I loved coaching football, but the colour got the more I want to get in the damn Jim. But there are things that doesn't get to come in the south. He's banned from the state bad for submarine. All right. Well, I've been in it, but that's what I see, but I'm just going to tell you I sit there and I'm watching my guys aren't cutting. My guys aren't cutting well. And I said, I just watch it and all of a sudden. I forget what your system was stick your foot in the ground and go there. Just stick your foot in the ground and go there. And I went over there and I said, stick your ground and go and all of a sudden we're cutting their tails. So there's there's all kinds of things he's got. He I'm not going to tell you. He's got plays that are all according to a certain aspect. Like we have the jungle. We have the jungle. We have lions Tigers bears, cobras guerrillas snakes. We have those. He has the same thing that parallels are in what I do want to do, and I haven't done this yet is Xavier Simpson to sit with shea and listen to its shea has to go through and he'll say, playing playing basketball. It's easy. I only got like ten things to remember. This has to no one hundred things with how you do it with twenty two people I have. No, I'm trying to spread the floor and do things twenty two people. It's amazing. There are a lot of dudes there. There are a lot of things, the parallels between the sports and the you can learn things from other coaches, and there's actually, I think maybe a parallel between you guys the way you recruited Dom Brown and the way you recruit, which there are differences. But there are actually a lot of similarities because there was not a pre existing relationship with those guys. You just wanted to go out and get someone to fit what you wanted, which was a great defensive mind. I think we're all copycats and coaching. And when I saw with that happen and beaten member, he didn't go take the national champion, Boston College defensive coordinator. We talk at team that just was good and defense, but they weren't. They didn't win, and he did that. And that next year that's I started looking at defensive field goal percentage, defensive Raitis who's coaching those teams and just asked who they are and it's, it's, it's certainly been incredib-. Well, hell force, but he's Luke glitches in down Brown are making us look like really good coaches at time. So, and that's good. Man, your defense. We me and dad. We watched all the, we were watching all the game. Oh gosh. We made it a point to watch everyone in your NCA tournament games together and. I mean, it seemed like you had six, seven guys out there on the floor playing defense. I mean, they were. They had like four and they had, yeah, it was like a power play every time. It was unbelievable. They were everywhere. They had those guys Xavier and Charles, really they just said that table night set the table and everybody's gonna foul along, but but Luke, I mean, Luke, Luke has done some things with the kids are accountable, and he will know how many shots they contested. You know the whole time or how many shots people got people get shot off on you, you're you may not be a good defender. You say, okay, contested. I mean we Xavier is allowed like his in practices. We chart every practice their way. He's only allowed his man to get like take six yet so far you know, in in post Spain, he's just item Drake, rich avenue, offense assignment. You probably count how many times guy gets a good look at the basket, and then using the guy for what they're really good at. I mean, you can get them open shot on a on a part of the court where he used to. Here's the basketball player coming in because he was about shooting at every time he headed. This man did not know what a pass. He did when it came to him, it was coming up. Why start playing basketball here in the fifth grade, I was on the same Saint Francis team and played my first game. And on the way home, my dad said a piece of advice for you. What's that when you get the ball shoot. So he was. In Dow shoot. Acid stuff that was bad for it. Was I bad dad? No, you're good debt. I would say. Did say, say. And so it's all. I mean, it's good. The parallels here are credible, and we both. And both of both of us have had some success, but nothing stops. We only do it because we grind we just really grind away. And because this life is is really a, you know, you have to be, you have to have a special spouse to get through it. You got a special kids to get through it. It is different. The stress in your, you'll growing up as a coach with them all sitting around me, you know, all of us. Now, Jim y- younger family, the mind. But I mean, there is stress. They know when they come home, whether dad's going to be what dad's going to be like right now question you have with your son coaching. Yeah. Your coach arable your coach at the same night. You got gotta game going on, starts at seven thirty, and you know his game starts at seven thirty and you're walking that line. Never jump into your mind. I wonder how things are going. I do it, and my guys will tell me at halftime. What's going on. We play a lot, but I think back watching his team play. This is the this is on tape video or live. We have been livestream how they did it for twelve hundred games. You know, kiss Kathleen with me virtually all twelve hundred games and there'd be time she, you know, they'd be listening to the games and she describe it to me. She's got these poor kids that are, you know, they're seven, you know, therefore there three to one and they're all holding hands while somebody from Kenichi shooting a free throw. You know what I mean? And we win or lose, we lose, they're all crying. We're all in the game, the game against Houston, where Jordan pool hit that shot. They're trying to zoom in on my poor grandkids, right? Who are now crying because there's two and a half seconds to go or whatever it was. I'm crying I'm about to cry too. And they're trying to zoom in on us like tournament round saying, no, don't let the camera see him crying. She doesn't wanna see him grind. And then the next thing you know he makes the shot and then everybody's crazy. So these, I mean, what the children and grandchildren go through of being. Related to apparent. Yeah, is is much much more stress than any fan ever goes through? Its is a bit. It's it's life. It's it's incredible. I've got a question for you. How do you? How does Kathy keep that lawn looking so good that long, a long drive by there. I look at this. Certainly you cut along. You use it, cut it to about three or four years ago. And then I finally gave in and I used to, I used to fertilize it. I did because I'm a farmer. I love doing that stuff and but finally it would be okay. I'm gonna fertilize that next Wednesday and it would rain and I wouldn't do it and then I'd have crabgrass or something, you know. So I do hire out now. I will admit it. I hire out, but it does look good. I look. I have to tell you they're good, you and I were on so much the same path coaching and children and kids and all that. And then all at once when you talk about cutting lawn and how you cut it up to three years we, we made a dramatic diverge diversion their discussion. You so you still cutting? No, I have never cut it. Kids and a wife and well, you know what you put on the I would put on the earphones, and I listen to baseball, Kaime it around the Saint Louis cardinal baseball game, or I time and around a bills game or Michigan was playing away, and I put the earphones on listening is like peace and quiet somehow with a. Elliot, no twenty to enter. I mean, it was to ride it or push. I'm impressed with that. Yeah, very pressed straight lines to straighten your bad guy or mulcher. I would always let it go out to Sida and beg much now that's all you gotta. You gotta keep feeding. Oh, yeah. You gotta keep being noticed up. I know this stuff way you eight. My hydrangea unbelievable. By the way, you know why we prune them. We prune them back. And so this is this is this is I tell the story all the time that I have to one's name is AM one, same Jordan, right? Right up to my because I proved him because they, they get pruned his freshman, right. And, and then they see that. Yeah, they prove they get pruned. You grow back to be big. If you don't get pruned. If nobody, you don't have any adversity, you don't get stronger. So they've, they seen the pictures of the good drainage is and the other ones I wish mom would have. Got that coaching point that you didn't have to rake the grass bag. The grass. Bag was about two feet wide. I mean, you had to change it every every every couple of strips. And I can't tell you how badly I felt for you in having watched you do that as I looked out the window. Did you ever bring a water you ever bring you water on how how, how. And John who was taking the most bathroom breaks when that was up that there were some arguments. Now there was rolling on the grass. How do you know I was watching. So I want to go back to something you had mentioned you said you guys watch the tournament games together. So who was loud wind Jordan, hit the shot. You or your dad. That's pretty exciting at that moment. When Jordan hit show, we saw that, why don't we didn't watch that one together and we show that tournament. I must have been doing something I'm to Texas game after they want. So the next the next to the next. Wait until we get serious. I think that's the only. That's the only game we didn't watch together. That was the only one. No wonder it was close coach. It was. All right. So of course coach now back to back big ten tournament championships, and those are those are unique experiences, and you've got a chance to DC in New York. Unbeliev-. That's where I was going with. Me twenty went out mess. Square guard. Twenty-one thousand seats. We had eighteen thousand Michigan, fancier. It lands plane. Went off the runway with the team on it. And then. A year before in Washington? Yeah, we, that's. That's that. You know what since since Brian Townsend was on my staff when I first got here played for bo- we talk about sudden change because a boat. So we talk about it all the time and that was it wasn't a joke, but after your plane crashes and you gotta decide where you got to play the next day, my kids said, sudden, change, coach, let's go, let's go. So we embrace that sudden change like crazy today. And that's that's what happens. But I think in football, that's us the fumble. You're going all of a sudden somebody fumbles well, defense got go out, sudden change. You got to do it. We had to move them in the ball game against this past weekend. We had to sudden change interception at the at the forty five yard line. And we had the sudden change with going forward on fourth down and getting stopped and the defense both both of those next how much we renounced greatest sudden change of all his. You kick a field goal. Go head three, nothing. You kick the ball off. They return. Turn it now at seven, three. I mean, that is that is I mean, you've got emotion of, finally, you got the lead after the first quarter. Now you now you're behind rally, but that's life. That's like that. Sudden change son chain. You go through life and all of a sudden everything's great. And then all of a sudden your boss, fires you right? Or something happened in something you get a phone call and your your, your son is sick or your daughter's sake. This is what sports just prepares us for this. So at just it's it's such a different exponentially. It prepares us for life so different right than normal normalized that we go through the eyes and a low sometime in the season. I think some people may not go through in ten years, so it's it's important part of our culture and makes us all better Ciampi Leonard. Tom, be our guest here for a few more minutes on each day, the Harbaugh's podcasts. Another parallel between the two sports coming up their next game against Wisconsin. If there's a team that is similar in football and basketball, it's the most kansin badgers, absolutely. I've been watching these dudes for seven years now. And then I, of course, watched the other team which took us forever to beat them because they don't make was tell me if there's any difference. They don't make mistakes, went Wisconsin basketball, right? They were always salad. There's nothing flashy. They just, you know what they're gonna do and they bring it right at you and say, stop it, and they always got a whole bunch of really good players. And then they got a few standouts that just they just play together and that's that's Wisconsin basketball. Right. Out. I mean it it's an or defense is always just absolutely solid and tuft outsmart them that in basketball. And you just you gotta hope. I mean, you saw some, you know, one time, Jim, we had a beat. I mean, it was a first time we'd ever wanted Wisconsin and we, we hit a Tim Hardaway. It's at three to go up by three with two and a half seconds to go. And we call a time out. We got a foul to give. We're, we're, we're going to win this game and they ran out about they ran out of bounce plays, and we were trying to. I didn't tell we were trying to foul instead of, I'm saying, tested shot and stay behind. They threw and a half court shot, and then they beat us thought it was the end of the world. But then but then again, you grow from adversely that same year we went to, we went to the final four. We had Syracuse and Kansas had the same play later on in the year we defended it better. We, we want so, but they are. They're not. I just watched there's great parallels, and that's why they're both really good programs. He just gave us a flashback to a couple of weeks ago on the podcast that's called failing forward. Right? I use it. I was listening to, I think I was listening to something on the way home Jimmy, and I don't have very far to commute. It's like you got like two minutes, so. That's about it, but I use that I spoke with the Wildman. Kessler scholarship group that is the bunch of young men and women that get scholarships from Fred wilpon and the Kessler family. And that's what I threw right in their bureau. Ford failing forward. And that's what happened. That's what happens in life. We had to do this, but athletics teaches this well coach, it's now it's best of all season. So few more weeks of practice. And then games Abana raising, we get the raise to banners this year. That's definitely better than what it will be great and we got to keep doing that, and it's tired to do that. Now with fourteen teams, you know, we talk about back in the big ten in winning championships with ten teams that was a little bit easier to do. Now. We got fourteen teams in both leagues is hard to do, and so we were fortunate to be able to do that. I don't know if any team has ever won eight tournament games in a row, and I have no clue how we do it, but we did it and our kids just adjusted an adjusted. So we'll be able to dad and the final four banner will be good, and it's thirty years. Since the national championship. So a lot of good things are happening every at every sport here right now, but how how the guys look in the early on as you get them in practice as you have new guys in new roles in veterans in Alexandria that are coming back and locking them there, there's days I think we'll be all right, and then there's other days, but I don't think we'll win one game all year long all, but that's what you know. He has the same thing after practice. You have good practices. You have bad practices and you just some days. You absolutely think you stink afterwards, and then there's other days, you know, maybe we'll be you never say. We're going to be really good. That never happens. You say, you know, I think we got a chance probably is as as positive, we'll be lucky. We'll be look. Win. One hurt that a few times. Well, I've said the same thing. We got more games, that's that's. That's who we are, but you just keep going along. Nobody here is, here's the deal. Nobody knows your weakness is better than the coaches. So we dwell on those weaknesses and don't think about all the good. I'll have a practice gym and I'll watch the video afterwards and it was the worst practice. Damn, he scored. He's doing this. What am I so upset for? But in practice you, those things will stand out in your mind. You're not like yelling at every weakness, but you see it. You see, this kid continues to make the same mistake, but he's doing nine things right? You forget about the nine thing. So that's where we got to settle down and just coach, you know, and just all right, we'll take them. We'll take he. We can do this. We got gotta hang in there and grind away or looking forward to the banners raising ceremony coming up looking forward to down the road, having your team back on the field at the big house to be celebrated many, many, many more times. I hopefully we'll have some great almost doubleheaders that we have. We're playing Friday or we're playing on Saturday and Monsieur football's plans same day we we get some some sweeps over weekend. Those are good weekends. Now those are all in hockey wheel. A women win the same weekend. It's those are great days. A lot of those ahead for us to appreciate it. And most importantly, it you're looking great and we're happy to have you back in in great health and back on the sidelines soon. Thank you. Thanks very much. Thanks for having me on the on the podcast. Hey, there diehards here some football facts. Even you might not know. The first football game was played in eighteen sixty nine in an average game. 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I wanted to be the best. I can be welcome to our team that Jack talk. As you get older, you get to be seventy eight years old. Here's what I find here grows in places that it hadn't been before. Welcome to hashtag Jack talk. It's not time for everybody's favorite segment of the week hashtag Jack talk here and attack each day. The Harbaugh's podcast before we actually get to Jack talk. We want to give a shout out to MacKenzie who's here on the podcasts or brother has played two games with his new team in the NHL. He plays for the Colorado Avalanche, and I made it a point to look at what happened there to know and she was at both games. So I give her full credit for the winds. He's a plus two in the plus minus. So he's on the ice when his team scores, even strength, goals has a couple of shots on goal, and he has a couple of penalties. So you got to have some penalties. Yes, from a hockey player, pretty much and then it tops it all off. You gotta get a couple of penalties. And if I am, I guess it'd be gets hit really hard and gets cut. He'll take three stitches and get back in the same game because hockey players have that really unique mentality. It's a really unique. I call them feisty. That's a good. We're rather Feist. Knock you players are pretty feisty. Pretty feisty eating col- Colorado Avalanche. You'll check them out and even the red wing fans. You can go read for free and coal, even though he's at Notre Dame or MacKenzie on our show. And so therefore you can root for coal. We give you a pass on that one. It is now time for hashtag Jack, talk here on the tacky stay the Harbaugh's podcast, and I want to piggyback on conversation. We were having earlier. It was. One of the great joys is sitting with John beeline for thirty to forty five minutes and having a conversation with them. Put you and coach be line and your son oughta gather and terrific. And we weren't joking. You and coach have six bypasses combined, and there's a lot of similarities in how things played out and you have talked about it off the air about your recovery and how you sort of feeling better pretty quickly. And then how the recovery process when it's great to see him back on the sidelines and you have a little bit more on that and for your your your over fifty, fifty, five sixty years old you. You need to get to a doctor. You need to get a physical time. We physical need to listen to your body. I didn't watching the North Carolina Villanova game here by the year and a half ago, national championship bang. I got it in the chest thought it was in digestion, but my wife insisted go to the hospital didn't real, not real sure where it was. Didn't have a family physician wake up in morning. You're gonna feel fine. When in they thought it was in digest. But stay overnight because of your eight found some signs that weren't right gonna do Catherine. The next morning woke up to find out that that I had had a heart attack and they were going to surgery in two days, wouldn't let me out of the bed, wouldn't take a chance and just walking to the bathroom. So in the morning, it's about three o'clock in the morning to a day and a half later I'm going in for start prep at six thirty. The surgery was going to be about eight eight thirty and watching the clock tick, tick down. And finally, we go in for the surgery. You'll get it done. You wake up something in my mouth, my mouth. It was just stuff and I, that's the first thing I remember and I had this sharp pain under my left angel Boehner and. And pay my back. My. Do which they must have done something because I'm out now. I'm out next thing I wake up, it's dark, so I must have been out all day. It's pitch Derek. I'm looking out the window. It's dark room is dark except at the end of the bed. There's I see a light, and I hear these two guys arguing arguing about something. You're sitting, you're moving, you're moving. No, you can't do that. I saw you and they're back and forth, and I'm thinking, oh my God, I died. I went to hell. Down inhale and God for the rest of eternity. I'm going to be listened to John and Jim argue, and they were just going on and district kept going at. It seemed like minutes and this back and forth this snapping at each other for Turney. This is going to happen. I don't know I. And then Finally, I realized that that I was alive and they were playing chess with a flashlight at the other end, and one had one, three or four games in a row and the other thought that they that he was cheating. And Finally I'd had it and I couldn't take it. You do it then with the bed, heart surgery, could somebody give me a little. And then once I hear John say he's onto a GM ease onto it. We knew you become into pretty soon and we just wanted to let you know that we were let you get away with anything. I have no belief that that happened in my in my mind, but I was so thankful that I would not spend turn ity lifting those two as I had listened to them as they grew up as a great story. And obviously you're recover really well, you're doing great, and I've seen you walk the stairs in the stadium. You can go up ninety steps with no problem and coach beeline talked about at a press conference in the last couple of weeks, get a stress test. Once you get to certain age, when really what you're late, Ford isn't too your fifties get a stressed us. And as you said, trust your body because I mean, I've seen stories. My wife just had a friend in the in his fifth forties that passed away and it's trust your body if something's not quite right and you think it might be something really small, you know what? Maybe just be careful and listened to your body, maybe the best advice you've ever and you'd get a lot of great advice in the podcast that might be the best advice guys have a funny way of. Toughen and everything out and you and I had a little fear going to that. I still have a fear of going to the doctor. You know, you go and you whatever they do. You just think they're gonna come with that. Something that you don't don't wanna hear, but I guarantee you don't take any chances and get a physical and trust in your doctor as both John and I do in Dr Kim eagle yet I'm grateful that told you guys might dad shares the doctor Dr eagle with them as well or the UN with coach beeline and others. He obviously he was both doctor, but Vandeweghe for years and years here in town. He was his doctor and I'm grateful that my dad is in Dr eagles hands. Not that he was at any. The skit had not gone to that scare moment, but it's nice to know that the best people in town are watching over him. And I know that I'm sure Jim feel the same way about you and the family feels about code be line. And so we are Dr eagles. 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OBI: Bengals/NFL post-draft Water Cooler Chat (5/3)

Cincy Jungle

44:13 min | 3 months ago

OBI: Bengals/NFL post-draft Water Cooler Chat (5/3)

"Everybody happy monday. Is anyone having a draft hangover. I hope not. There has been a lot of coverage a lot of news regarding the cincinnati bengals. They made some significant moves to bolster up their roster. And we're gonna talk about that room. Talk about draft grades. We're gonna talk all kinds of different headlines with the bengals with their afc north rivals and around the nfl as the twenty twenty one. Nfl draft is behind us. We hope that you enjoyed all the coverage that we brought you not only on this program but on the cincy jumper podcast channel with folks like matt mimic ason zim on orange is the new black and of course all of the articles on cincy jungle dot com a lot of hard work from a lot of great folks. Hopefully you enjoyed that. And really across the bengals media platform whether it's bengals dot com all bengals all kinds of different. Great grave the enquirer. I'm sure missing a few others. Espn a lot of great coverage across the board About the bengals. And hopefully you enjoyed all that stuff. Good to see everybody here. A i just want to say one more thing. I apologize for friday night for those especially the facebook live. We had a significant amount of people. Still wanted to hang out really late for the livestream on the breakdown of rounds. Two and three. We had some audio issues to start the show. We cleaned it up. We've got an edited version of that on our youtube channel. So go check that out. The audio is available on the podcast channels while but just wanted to apologize. Particularly to the facebook live viewers for that episode. Facebook was not working with us on that episode in. It was not working on the next day when we tried to upload the edited video so apologies to that push push the livestream time back a few times for live. You're so just want to apologize for all of that. In case you missed it and We're a little frustrated by that. I apologize but good to see everybody in. This is the water cooler. After because by the way. I don't know if i'd reintroduce myself But appreciate you tuning in on this monday. And it's good to see a lot of live viewers in that. There's not a lot of people who seem to be sick of the draft coverage so we're going to keep feeding it to you. Let's get it started with some bengals news and we're going to start simple and kind of go into more. I guess headlines of analysis. We're gonna come through all the headlines with the bengals all the headlines with the afc north teams and then of course the nfl. So let's get it rolling here on the water cooler chat. We go back to the class itself. In case you missed any picks here they are around one. Pick five wide receiver jomar chase. That was rumored to be the picco in the couple of weeks leading up to the draft. The bengals did go that route and not with finacial sewell. But they got an offensive lineman in the second round in the form of offensive guard slash offensive tackle jackson carmen with the clemson tigers. They move back from that spot. From thirty eight move back. Eight spots and collected to fourth round picks from the new england patriots in round three. They got Who many view as a steel defensive end slash edge slash linebacker joseph. I out of texas in round four. Pick one eleven. Cameron sample of versatile. guy that probably you know. He's kind of a little bit in the mold of the car. Loss type of thing in terms of a little bit more stock. He's about six two but a guy you may be able to kick inside On occasion helps out in the run. Good pick there. And then you got the big big boy tyler kelvin from lsu. Pick one twenty two in round four big guy. We're talking three hundred forty pounds or so a true nose tackle in a guy that'll help shore up run most definitely in the afc north and then. Of course you've got dante smith promising. True athletic offensive tackle needs a little bit of development but If he if his development meets that athletic profile you may have a star in the making their in the fourth round and round. Five bengals surprise a few people by going kicker but it seems to be the consensus best picker. Best kicker in the draft. In evan mcpherson out of florida he had been working in talking with darrin. Simmons as reported up to the drafts of the bengals really wanted him. We're gonna we've got another headline with that in just a second get interior offensive linemen trae hill. A guy who probably will be backing up at center and or guard may be competing for the center spot if trae hopkins rehab does not go as planned so trey hill is the around six. Pick number one ninety two. Oh two an athletic intriguing. Running back out of michigan. Chris evans a guy who can catch the football guy who's a pass protector. He's a little older. He's twenty three twenty four years old so we'll older but not a lot of wear on the tires. I think he only had sixteen carries last year but a guy who's got a really really high end athletic profile that relative athletic score from kent lee platt shows him to be very athletic player So a guy that maybe can can do some of the things if not all of the things that giovanni bernard brought to the team and with the last pick the bengals go defensive end again in wii hubert who you know you hear things like motor and a guy who you know high effort and You know all kinds of different things are worse than talk about. Maybe a little little too aggressive at times some flags and i guess at the senior bowl there. There were joking. I think it was maybe daniel jeremiah. And the nfl network was when they made this pick you can't they. Were kind of saying that coaches had to remind hubert not to touch the quarterbacks in practices and whatnot but An guy if you notice the bengals came in. I said this on a on a post on cincy jungle breaking down everything after our super show with All of the cincy jungle podcasters the came in to the to the weekend needing wide receiver. Help a lot of offensive line. Help a lot of defensive line help. Basically pass catchers defensive line offensive line. You can argue that. Nine of those ten picks were used to those capacities chase and evans to a much lesser extent in terms of a pass catcher. But a guy who is known to be able to catch the football. Of course you've got the three offensive line picks in carmen in smith and in hill. You've got four defensive line. Picks in aside cam sample tyler shelving and hubert so they did a lot of work there and then of course the one that didn't address those areas is a guy who puts points on the board theoretically inevitable. Evan mcpherson the kicker so You know bengals did a lot to shore up some weak areas and it sounds like i tried to find an article for it to share. But i think it's probably on bengals dot com bengals. Maybe even since jungle dot com. Where Zac taylor that the the team has not done in terms of looking at free agency to help fill some other spots potentially so there may be some more moves on the horizon. Here going forward Tim co who from germany. Thanks for tuning from germany. Tim that's awesome. So let's keep it rolling. This is again. just kinda some reminders. In case you missed some things over the weekend there was a lot of news. I'm sure everybody kind of knew about the bengals picks themselves but what about undrafted free agents so far the bengals have a couple of really really neat players to their undrafted. Free agent. List puka williams. A guy who some people thought should have been drafted there on day. Three guy who may be able to give you some special teams assistance. You've got obviously a backup running back type of Possibility for him. Maybe he competes with trivia on williams. Air it's going to be a pretty big battle. Between puka williams. Trayvon williams and chris evans to see who gets the spots on the final roster. There you've gotta punter drew christmas. And i saw a question from one of our live listeners. Does that mean huber is going to be probably not but there's probably going to be a little bit of a competition there of some To what level yet but so they do the bengals pickup buckeyes. Kristen more on that in a second ball state. Cornerback antonio phillips. Tcu tied in pro wells. Recall name that is pro wells. Marshall thundering herd defensive end areas hodge south carolina quarterback colin hill interesting player there northwestern wide receiver riot riley lease is well a pretty athletic guy. There riley lease so some good names for the bengals as of so far on monday. The undrafted free agent list speaking of drew christmas. I guess we'll transition here. Just real quick some some neat background on on this kid. This i found on twitter. This is a video of him. In case you are not aware he's the man is Is married and he candidate a unique proposal. Here's a video of it. I guess i'll expand so you can maybe see it here a little bit better for those watching. He's kind of. Have i guess his girlfriend slash fiance kick a ball. Just kind of is a fun thing. And he ends up proposing to her on the field in front of a lot of people there so i guess unless this is fake somehow It looks like this was a real deal and he did it all in front of teammates and whatnot so pretty cool. Pretty cool deal in a little little story behind. Drew christmas At the ohio state punter. That is now an undrafted. Free agent for the bengals in a couple of just a another couple of funny ones here before we get to some more headlines in case you were not aware of this one. The there was a really interesting set of circumstances. That kinda hilarious set of circumstances. Actually the of came to be here in terms of high profile. Quarterbacks in the league either drafted this year or last year getting reunited with some of their best offensive. Weapons in you. See here this year. You had trevor lawrence and travis at the end both drafted in the first round by jacksonville. You have obviously tamar chason. Joe burrow arguably the highest profile of all of these groups to tag ovalles loa and jalen waddell who they picked Right after the bengals took tamar chase and then the eagles you have jalen hurts and davante smith a little bit of a reach their since hurts. was was in alabama for a couple of years. And then you know went to went to oklahoma for his final year. So there's a little bit of overlap there but still really really kind of funny how the league works. And i think these coaches are kinda cna and let's. Let's make these young quarterbacks as comfortable as possible by giving them people they already have reporter with players they already know and have shown to be productive with so We will see how that plays out. Here we go ryan bowling horrible draft Okay we're gonna get to. We're going to get to some grades here. I guess that's a good spot to go next. Seeing as how. There's been some people not so hot Some people really like this draft. Some people did not some people. Think it's just kinda solid look. I know what everybody was looking for out of the draft but the bengals. This was always going to be a little less sexy than the year prior in terms of the positions that they took the players that they took. This was a little bit more of a meat and potatoes type of draft. Whether it's line defensive line edge players that sort of thing that was always going to. That was always going to be part of the plan this year to shore all that stuff up as the team you know did so. Obviously your first. Two picks was quarterback and wide receiver. They were not going to emulate that this year. But here you see here. This is from our good friend. Daddy o of dna jr sports Pf gives the bengals a b grade in the draft in the browns receive an a plus so the browns. The browns draft was was quite solid. We'll we'll show you. They drafted and just a little bit here in case you missed all of that. The pro football focus gives the bengals b-grade the that that seems to kind of be a little bit of a consensus. There was after the bengals drafted jomar chase there. Was i think a bleacher report grade. That said that the bengals got enough because they did not go. After penny will well lo and behold in the second round not only did they get an offensive lineman one who very well could start at the open right guard position but a guy got two picks for it. I mean that's you're able to get your guy that you targeted and then get more picks to help out other areas and oh by the way you know in the fourth round because they got those two those two extra picks in the fourth round they got another offense tackle deontay smith. So take that for which i guess. Some people are just not going to be happy about what the bengals did this weekend regardless but they grabbed some talented players. A here's a little headline as well on cincy. Jungled dot com about the big boy tyler. Shelving about three forty three fifty. A pretty good coach wanted wanted this player You know it. Three his three fifty. I've i've heard three forty ish. So we'll see three hundred fifty pound but again another one from that bill belichick coveted the newest bangle tyler. Shelving he wanted that big nose. Tackle presence on his defense The patriots earlier went christian bar more with in the second round there so they wanted some other some added beef up front and sheldon was a guy and look. I mean he's had bell checks at. Vince will for keys. Add richard seymour and to kind of different builds and players there but to very very outstanding offensive lineman and he obviously felt that sheldon was going to be a good get for them and The bengals grabbed him before new. England could do sell so obviously that was a coveted. Pick around four by pretty good coach. Name bill belichick. This is the water cooler chat and orange on the orange. Black insider bengals podcast. I am anthony app. You'd have all of you joining us on this monday post draft. I know there's maybe a little bit of a let down. But i guess there's a little bit of a oh man it's over Yes unfortunately it's over but our coverage is not fortunate for you that we will be continuing all of our coverage. We're going to be here for a little while longer. Going through more headlines and Bringing you all the all the good stuff here but it's it was. It's a long weekend. There was a lot to cover but it was a good one and personally speaking. I think the bengals did some good good things over the weekend. I know not. Everybody fully agrees with that based on some comments that i've seen already today or whatnot but regardless good to see all of you thank you for tuning in today in what will get to more in just a second but You can get this show in case you're new to it on itunes stitcher spotify. Google play megaphone iheartradio. Really wherever you get. Google podcasts Really wherever you get your audio you can get this show as well as on our youtube channel. If you want to join us live. We like to field comments. This isn't so much as interactive as some of the others like listener questions live and all that kind of stuff but if you want to join us live. 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Obi let's keep it rolling more headlines to get to here. We mentioned this fifth round. Pick maybe a surprise to some but the bengals quote fully. Expect evan mcpherson to be their kicker going forward if you watch some videos on this kid. He's impressive he's got a leg I hesitate and i think some also hesitates using the words. Justin tucker but this guy. He's got some talent. It's got some town. The bengals did draft. Jake elliott a couple of years ago. They cut him and now he's gone to philadelphia and has had a pretty good career there but the bengals decided to go with mcpherson. Here and darren simmons. Paul dana junior on twitter says darren simmons says he fully expects mcpherson to be the starting kicker on opening day. I guess that's what you do when you draft kicker that early. That's the expectation so the bengals appear to have a new kicker going forward. Austin seibert was the veteran on the roster. They're probably still will be a competition in the summer. Training camp in preseason preseason but i think mcpherson has the job here unless there's some sort of travis dortch type of disaster in those of you who have been bengals fans for a while. We'll remember travis. Door should go look them up. That did not work. Wealth for the bengals. But i think this is gonna work out with this kid. He's got a good leg and the bengals need. I said this before. The bengals need a kicker who can kick in the elements. Good i mean after games are played at home and obviously cincinnati. Get some rough weather later in the year there. They play three games on the road. In cleveland in baltimore in pittsburgh every year weather's usually rough in those areas as well whether it's Rain wind snow. Whatever so you need. You need to kick her. Who can kick through. The elements is kids. Sounds like he's got a strong leg and the bengals also need not only that they need. Kickers can get points in clutch situations and of course they need dies can hit deep kicks Forty nine yards and beyond has been a bit of an adventure to say the least over the past few years since You can go back to shayne graham. He was a pretty successful kicker but even he didn't have the strongest leg either. Oddly enough shayne graham coached. Evan mcpherson in florida. So there's a connection there. Obviously the synergy. Between darrin simmons and shayne graham worked out. Well they're so. Hopefully this kid really works out for the team. He's got a lot of talent and it sounds like he's going to be the kicker going forward by the way for those still criticizing the sewer verses chase argument here neighbor allston. Is you know he may not be one hundred percent on board. I know he likes. He is partial to a receiver picnic. Be a former receiver himself but neighborhoods in basically says if you're gonna swing swing big if you're the cincinnati bengals which they did with tamar chase. Now you've got t higgins. Jomar chase tyler boyd all together. Oh yeah and by the way. Auden tate thomas rounding out the group is well. But you can go. We can show you this clip here or you can go to john. Sharon's twitter account to see the video itself but basically he kinda says in go big. Go big or go home here. In the bengals went big. They felt that they got the better player. Not only at a position. Another position of need. They felt that they just got a better overall player than grabbing one of the offensive linemen that were available at that spot and they had their pick of the litter in terms of a wide receiver or an offensive line. None had gone up to that point. And the bengals go with jemaah chase and they're kind of thinking you know not only talent wise but the reunion with joe burrow. That's going to pay. Dividends but nate burleson is on board with it. It appears For if you're interested in the talking head the national media's take on what the bengals have done speaking of pennzoil the bank of the lions talk to the bengals on thursday night to move up to number five not four and maybe they were. I don't know how honest they were being if they were being forthright with dangles in terms of trading up but the the lions actually inquired to the bengals about moving up to number five and it would have been for finacial so it didn't really matter because detroit was still able to get sewell and the bengals were able to get chase. Who knows i mean. Detroit ended up investing in wide receiver. I know they got on raw saying brown on day three and they had some issues at receiver so who knows if they actually would have still grabbed so if they moved up to five you would like to think that they would have But either way i mean. They still had a big need at wide receiver after losing marvin jones and kenny golladay in free agency. So they had they had some issues there but The the lions and dan campbell the new head coach he he wanted some attitude upfront. And some nastiness upfront. And he got panay sewell both teams. It worked out well for them. You know the bengals got their diet. Tamar chase in the lions got theirs and sewell by staying put so guess it worked out. Here's another one. From bengals dot com on grades for the bengals. Apparently draft analysts have some good reviews in this is from michael plaza over there at at bengals dot com. They did a great job. This weekend is well but you see the picture we win over those as well You have the ring or giving the bengals in a minus. Nfl dot com giving the bengals a b. Plus you've got him. These are all linked to So a really good really good link on bengals dot com. Go check it out and check out. All the links to the stories. Specifically sporting news gives him a b. Plus pro football network. Who by the way trey wingo. Formerly of espn is with pf. N i believe. And he was all about the bengals. Drafting will in you know. It was just absolutely criminal if they drafted tomorrow as yet that network still gives the bengals a b. plus espn gives the bengals a b. I believe that was courtesy of mel kiper. Indoor todd mcshay pro football focus as we mentioned earlier gives the bengals a b. Usa today gives the bengals a. Be as well so go. Check out all the all. Those stories are linked and you can see the canada. The little blurbs that each one of those outlets wrote about the bengals in what they did with their ten picks go check that out. Good stuff from bengals dot com in michael lip lock in there Basuto five threes. I just wanna say thank you guys for posting my video on jungle that was pretty dope. You got him got. We did see jungle by the way not only on this show but on the website. You know there's a fan posts sides so you can just right you know. If you've got some thoughts you can write about that stuff. We also recognize that a lot of fans within the bengals fan base are quite knowledgeable. They're they're really good with videos and pictures and digital media and all that like if you look at our if you look at our logo there i guess it would be up here or the subscribe button down there. That's from dalton signature. A bengals fan in washington. A great guy who was kind enough to come up with some logos for us and he's bengals fans so there's a lot of talent a lot of good is in years amongst the bengals fan base. Oh no worries man. Glad glad we were able to get you a little exposure exposure there on since juggle in case you did not know. We've talked a lot about your march as but in case you have not known. There was a rule that was passed. That basically is permitting Different players to wear a lot of different numbers the limitations on position groups wearing certain jersey numbers is basically ceasing. An so jomar chase will be number one on cincinnati bengals. That will be his jersey number going forward here. So you've got you've got joe burrow thrown number one here the same number he wore in college. That jersey is apparently available for purchase. However my understanding is they don't have them specifically in the physical pro shop. But i think you can buy them through the pro shop online or through. Nfl dot com and it is a number one jersey that you can buy so if you wanted to march jersey i may be getting one of those a little bit down the road as well They're they're available for purchases my understanding online. So go check that out. Let's keep it going to the afc north. If you guys don't mind we will the in case she did not catch up. We're going to try and get through these pretty quick in case you did not. You were not caught up with wet. The other teams did in the draft. And then there's we've also got a little bit of news here for each aside from their draft picks. We've got a little tidbit of news for each team here. But let's start with the baltimore ravens. Who did some nice things in the draft here and there's gonna be some players undoubtedly who will become thorns in the bengals side going forward here. They had the first round pick number. Twenty seven reshad. Bateman a talented wide receiver out of minnesota. So they got him he six foot one one ninety three. He had a good year with in minnesota there last year they also had a second first round. Pick number thirty one. They got the edge player. He used to go by jason away. I believe but he wants to go by his true name. oda fe away. I hope i'm pronouncing that right. A talented talented edge player at penn state not an overly strong class for edge players. But you know some diamonds in the rough. Hopefully that the bengals grab but also away was one of the tops in the class as well and then they've got a third round. Pick a guy that i know. A lot of bengals fans wanted to see the team. go after benn cleveland. It just a a mean dude at offensive guard for at georgia. They're and you know the bengals like those georgia guys. So ask ben cleveland a talented player going in the third round to baltimore. They had another third round. Pick number one. Zero four overall. They go with quarterback brad stevens out of smu their fourth round. They get another talented wide receiver thailand wallace oklahoma state and you know the baltimore ravens having drafted overly well at wide receiver of late. They do have hollywood brown. He's had some ups and downs but wallace adding to the wide receiver core and then in the fifth round. They get i. I mean i don't i i know. He struggled a lot this year. But getting sean weighed in the fifth round out of ohio. State that's a great get by them. Another fifth round. Pick dalen hayes. The edge player out of notre dame and then fifth round. They get tight. End ben mason out of michigan. You know uh baltimore. Likes those tight end. So they are stockpiling. Those ben mason at michigan there. That is what the ravens did over the weekend. And what's what's been coming in. What's been occurring starting today. Really teams kind of shedding. Some players off of their roster. Doing some different things because they've added this new class of rookies on the flip side of things. The ravens are actually looking to work. Lamar jackson's contract extension. There's been a little bit of an impasse there but as of earlier monday todd car carpet. Which hopefully. I'm saying that right of raven country part of the sports illustrated network the counterpart to the all bengals page run by james routine and company. The ravens are ready to pivot back in in address. Lamar jackson's contract situation. And i think that was a big deal. Wi- lamar jackson was able to win that playoff game last year. A lot of people thought you know obviously puts up the stats. He's a great regular. Season quarterback wasn't doing much in the postseason and lo and behold there you go the he playoff game and now. The team is ready to talk contract again. So we'll see we'll see if that gets settled over the summer here. I would assume that the ravens are going to pay quite a bit as to what lamar is is asking for. Very talented guy. Obviously his really taken it to the bengals in the past couple of years so He in all likelihood he will be remaining there in the next handful of years as well here is the cleveland browns draft class first round. Pick twenty six. Greg newsom out of northwestern a cornerback. Second round pick fifty two jeremiah wazoo. Core amoah j. o. k. Is everybody's been calling a linebacker. Out of notre dame third round pick ninety. One anthony schwartz a quick wide receiver out of auburn a little bit earlier than expected there for schwartz but a talented player fourth round. Pick one ten local favourite offensive lineman james hudson. A lot of people think he may kick into guard but is a tackle by trade out of cincinnati fourth round. Pick one thirty two tommy. To- guy out of ohio state. A a big defensive lineman their fifth round one fifty three. Tony fields a linebacker out of west. Virginia one sixty nine in the fifth round richard. Count the third a safety out of georgia. Some people thought he may have been a day three pick for the bengals air. Because the george connection maybe get another player for the defensive backfield but goes to cleveland. Sixth round pick to eleven they get a running back to metric felton out of ucla in that was essentially their class there now It hasn't been the there. Were there was a player that the city bengals may have thought about looking at especially since he went undrafted but unfortunately this is a good player. He was thought of being maybe as early as the third rounder fourth round. Or that sort of thing. Big defensive tackle. Marvin wilson did not well so he went undrafted but tom pella zero of of nfl. Dot com Reported a couple of days go. The browns are signing florida. state defensive. Tackle marvin wilson to a huge rookie. Free agent deal that includes a thirty thousand dollars signing bonus plus one hundred sixty two thousand guaranteed base salary A big bidding. War for wilson one of the top players to go on drafted so the cleveland. Browns get another seemingly solid defensive lineman at a at a good value in terms of undrafted free agent. I know he didn't have the greatest athletic profile but a talented kid. Got some tape out there so good. Good pick up by the browns. They are in terms of undrafted free agent. Let's pivot to the pittsburgh steelers showy. Are everybody's favorite team. The pittsburgh steelers. Everybody's favorite team right here is. Are there picture. You got nausea harris. Pick twenty four in the first round running back out of alabama. You've got pat fryer move tight end out of penn state to just Historical stereotypical whatever type of picks by the pittsburgh steelers. You get a tough tight end and a tough versatile running back in they wanna go a little ground and pound play action that sort of thing get back to the basics speaking of that they get kendrick green it pretty talented interior linemen out of illinois around three they get to tackle out of texas and dan more in round four they go back to texas a and m. to get a linebacker buddy johnson at pick one forty they get the defensive end out of out of wisconsin isaiah louder milk. Quincy rochet talented intriguing linebacker Type of player out of miami and round six get another safety out of oklahoma trade norwood and then they draft punter with their final pick number two fifty four georgia tech presley harbin. The third is the part that they grabbed there. So you know not everybody absolutely love and that was on steelers dot com by the way not. Everybody absolutely loved with the pittsburgh steelers day. But you know i. I said on saturday afternoon. I thought it was interesting. That for a team picking late in round. They were really really kinda going after needs. It wasn't a ton of best player available type stuff at least with those early picks. They needed those two positions tied in running back especially for what they wanted to. You know reassess in be who they have traditionally been in the nfl great tight end good running back and let's let's kinda be physical that sort of thing and then of course they get kendrick green the physical interior offensive linemen in the third round. So they did some work but it was. It was need-based to be sure. So here is. I believe this. Is chad ride. Actually you know what. I'm going to go here instead. This is the fifth year option tracker because the pittsburgh steelers made some news on this. So we'll this'll be a nice nice bridge here. Fifth year option tracker for twenty eighteen. First round picks. You can see here Most almost every in the top twenty has been exercised. Mayfield saquon barkley. Sam darnold denzel war bradley. Chubb quinton nelson josh allen. Roquan smith mike. Mcglinchey so rosen. Was not the tenth overall pick quarterback for the cardinals because he was traded and then waived so his his contracts gone his rookie contract is gone. He is on the san francisco. Forty niners right now. But you see here. Exercised exorcised exercise. Here we go number twenty one billy price that has not been exercised the fifth year option there and the tennessee. Titans declined the fifth year. Option on rashaan evans. And then if you go to pick twenty eight here while you were shot penny seahawks. They are declined. Pick up his option. He's been a bit of a disappointment for them. Any go pick twenty eight. Terrell edmonds a safety out of the pittsburgh steelers their first round pick it was. They are declining to exercise his fifth year. Option tom pella. Sarah is well so and then there's some others still being determined later in the round there. Obviously lamar jackson. They exercise that and they are looking to potentially get him an extension as i mentioned earlier but trail emmons. The safety from the pittsburgh steelers brother an excellent linebacker with the buffalo bills edmonds. For at least the steelers. Edmonds has been a bit of a disappointment. They are declining his fifth year option. So that's what's going on. With the thousand eighteen first round picks here are some more grades. I think we mentioned this. One for cincinnati bengals. But this is on. Nfl dot com final quick. Snap grades for all thirty two teams. This is by chad writer You can see here in falcons eight plus you can go on. Here baltimore ravens. I guess this is in alphabetical order. Buffalo bills minus will stop where the bengals are at here let it load up chicago bears. Uc they've got an a cincinnati bengals. Be plus here and then you look at all the pics in you see. Here's the day one. Basically they were b. or b. plus every every day according to nfl dot com b plus b plus b and. Of course you see. The bengals had a choice between a dominant left tackle anthony sewell and an outstanding receiver. Chase chose chased despite the fact that they're young quarterback joe burrow head his rookie season cut short by an injury suffered in the pocket. They hope that's like in carmen will rectify the situation. Allow borough and chase to rekindle the connection that led them to a national title And then you know. Dave day three stuff getting sample early in the fourth round should help the pass rush shelves powerful bass makes him a nice run stuffer Mcpherson was bound to be fifth round. Pick in the team needed upgrade that position but likeness kicker comes with its share of risk. So good stuff thereby chad writer and you can catch all the grades for all teams on there as well. Couple of other tidbits of news before we bounce on outta here just for those. Who may be cord cutters or anything like that Amazon prime video will be the exclusive thursday night football home starting next year. Not this season coming up in twenty one but next year in twenty two so get that get that in your calendar there and make a note that amazon prime video will be the exclusive. There's football starting in twenty two going on here. This'll be the last one that we get to today on the water cooler chat. This is the top undrafted rookie free agents following the two thousand twenty one draft. This is kind of a cool thing by gillibrand. It's a tracker updates. They've got updates on here in terms of where guys have gone. Shane boo shell bounce from texas. Smu is signing with the chiefs And then you've got some others here that are still potentially available. You've got some others running backs here. Puka williams you see him there but a couple of other interesting names hookah williams. Obviously as i said earlier signed with the bengals wide receivers may be another group to look at here. But there's been a lot of activity here. Tyler vons at usc interesting player marlon williams. Ucf you know. These are guys that damon hazelton missouri. So there's a couple of names in here. Sarah was a guy. I would like the bengals to take a flyer on but he signed with the lions apparently going with on raw safe brown there so not a lot left in this in that position group You know the bengals could could go there and then of course you've got some decent names at the imposition offensive tackles in case anyone was worrying wondering here not a lot left there although that supreme position that usually gets drafted very very heavily. So there's a couple of here a couple of them here they all appear to be unsigned at this point. And then you've got some interior offensive lineman Tommy kramer is a name that some some folks no out of notre dame There jared hawkers and other name out there so A lot of these been scooped up as well the interior offensive linemen. And then you've got some edge rushers about half of those listed here have been scooped up and then there's some mother carl rochelle out of organ states. Another guy that a lot of people know so. Go check this out. There's a lot of information here and things that are linked on here. So a undrafted. Free agency tracker on. Nfl dot com with a lot of interesting names. Some of which have been signed some of which have not. This has been the water cooler chat. I know there's some questions here. We're going to try and do a listener questions live this week. So we'll get to more questions from you. All thank you all for keeping your eyes and ears on cincy. Jungle dot com both on the website and our podcast channel. Subscribe to our youtube channel. 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The Dr Is In

Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast

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The Dr Is In

"Is currently the head football coach of the University of Michigan Wolverines and a former player his dad and brother are also former players and coaches but there's more to them than thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcast and podcast one an old belief that every every man that stepped onto that field was was gonna do their job including themselves doing it that was just in some of the wettest conditions I can recall at Michigan Stadium and coach your team overcame all those conditions in every aspect whether it was protected football protected the ball blocked tackled they they were strong it was a there was it felt like they were ah a in themselves you know that they were going to get their job done also that each and every other guy was going to get their job done it was like that uncondition you can just see it from beginning to end and so many guys played really really really good shape patterson risks fast he was the ball and throwing the ball running the ball playing defense you guys played a heck of a performance on Saturday night. Yeah that was that was a while performance in every every aspect of football as you said I mean our our guys played they're on a mission I have so much respect for for our players that have they've had some recent tests and you know it hasn't shaken them or or the very bottom of my heart it's been it's been good for me thank you Jack Harbaugh thank you Jim Harbaugh and Mad IRA and McKinsey thank you when you're listening to this today you were one of the seven million eight there we go no cake this time but we'll you keep you could see it common you really could but the other thing was and this really stood out to me was just unconditional belief that they had the fastest I've seen him all season running the football and he he had to was running situations defense news the way I just as a whatever I think is a person who sits here and a person who listeners of the podcast prior to being on this podcast it's been a joy listening to you talk and I mean that you know made them blink at all I mean they have they have turned been determined to to keep getting stronger and better and asked with Jim harbaugh hello everybody and welcome to another edition of attack each day the Harbaugh's podcast along with coach Jimmy Jack Harbaugh director running the ball and had to get the quarterback involved in running and was blocking and and the backs ball security was was the main focus and who ever thought we started as two years ago that we would be able to do that that's a May seven million yes what a joy it's brought to me the PODCAST APP or on podcast dot com and please follow us and contact us on twitter at ad podcast or Hashtag Jackdaw. Can I start for something really quite sure thing coach the Michigan Water Polo Team Doctor Marsili Nardi will join us and of course we'll wrap things up with tech talk here on attack you stay the Harbaugh's podcast a reminder subscribe to us on Apple podcasts thank you this is starting to show we're GONNA continue because we're about to talk about a wonderful performance on the football field forty five to fourteen victory and not only do they have the ball security but you know they were they were running on a mission the line was creating great holes defense was fast they were flying around all that was that was snapped high and receivers caught the ball and and and really tough conditions Caesar Res at one of his most outstanding on a plane with the great great trying to use the word by violent you know and Hustle and another cake soon wow so we get cakes six million and then even numbers even numbers are here to celebrate everything that that you'd WanNa see in a ballgame the special teams will heart we're gonNA made a great catch and the opening opening drive in games and wet ball drill during the week you know Tuesday's practice to snatch were all over the place and and made an emphasis of it advocacy producer Mckinsey here as well we'll talk some Michigan football who've coming up forty five fourteen win over Notre Dame and we're big ten play this Saturday at Maryland this week's guest the head the boundary the ball was a little high this ball's not going to be caught and he had the awareness of not grabbing tugging turning an incompletion into a letter of accommodation to Gary Hazlet and his staff because it was one of the most remarkable equipment manager efforts out in the uniforms and the pads we came out a somewhat repellent Rain repellent top that Gary Hazlet and and sunny got Say somebody else is going to get that he immediately I may hit the acceleration and you could see him he's fifteen yards away now look at the balls does that he recovered one he was about twenty yards away when the ball I came out and there's bodies around that ball and you know some guys would would he's came came by and the development office which is bringing into the EH defensive penalty but in so many ways he is he is evolved so fast as a football player with with everything he's doing and for they went out and keep the keep jerseys and the pads is as dry as possible and with that we are going to right Chanson Mike Dana for Dax Hill you know is is grown so much it's just with the idea of keeping them dry and then when they went back in the locker room they wouldn't be wet and cold for another twenty twenty five minutes before do you know what you're right those those it's unacceptable I'm GonNa make I'm GonNa get that right I'm going to get these snaps dialed in and and we didn't have an errand snap the rest of the week or in the that I have ever seen to where he had he had alternate game jerseys and pants and socks and t shirts and underwear and not only our own team but I mean there was the pre-game the pre-game was unbelievable to with the amount of VIP that they did it was it was it was amazing getting an endorsement from Winston Churchill it really is you're right a couple of stories or he ran outside zone inside zone and you know sometimes there was holes there and sometimes it looked like it was going to be attacked as I don't know if we were shoulder pads became pre-game but talk about that a little bit and the pre-game and the way they came out to warm up well we we didn't come jobs he has ever seen in football and he said Gary just made it look easy and it was so seamless with with him in the staff and everything and he's got great instincts naturally and now he's for football awareness really showed us this game I think at the two go ahead data one of the things I thought was very very interested in the game we're I must admit I didn't stay in the weather I went up in the press box to get out of the weather I'm feel guilty about that in the ball game Mike you're Wayne you had had had a great game Cameron was was all over the field eight and both freshman Asana redshirt freshman and and Zaka true freshman and also true Wilson real flashes when he got into the ballgame late and so did and Ben Ben Summer in as well but you know those two backs of have really no every time the guys came back into the locker room they had had some dry to put on and they could get the get the water off of them and it was incredible I mean uh-huh the pre-game the pre-game our team came out dressed differently than they know I don't think maybe in the old days back in the seventy ah the blocker and set such a great example and Nick eubanks you know is really taken off as a blocker he's he's really made that an emphasis for six they get fifteen you know it's and that's that Hassan Zakar both showing that kind of ability oh for a loss and he picked out two or three or four yards of the really good backs are the ones that can has let the one of the greats of all time recognizing another another great John Fox that he said it's one of the most remarkable recover that that fumble there's another play in the boundary where opposite sideline he had really good coverage quarterback through it and he just knew he you know you back to full health and he had a heck of a good ballgame to and Good to see Chris Turner who you know some of his wraps is the name of the game and that will lead to the to the receptions and and and things of that nature so that's been and to who to block Luke Kuhn maker has has really ascended as a football player pass catcher and and as a blocker because taken off and they're getting they're getting better and better and getting getting more and more of the of the Rapson and doing a heck of a job do one other thing you mentioned the running game tight ends in the Dow but he's you know he's done everything he can to get on special teams he's on kickoff now and he's he's trying to get I'm more special teams and and he really showed you know act to go along with Zach charbonnet in the backfield and needless to say Hasan Haskins his come about the and one that job and he was absolutely terrific Zach the running game overall but almost a hundred around ten and then ball still loose almost recovered then it gets to five and then you saw Arrow going through snow ninety five yards combined between the two of them just terrific yeah really really good I mean Assad was running inside plays he ran trap he ran power was to do and then Ben Mason sprinkle him in there a little bit I watched I watched watched him a little bit he gets locked on a guy I mean it is it is he era of the ultimate compliment I'll put compliment today here in the office was John faulk praising Gary get more than what a plays block for the plays black for zero you know they they find a way to get to you know if it's black for two they get four if it's blocked aches him for a ride as as the other tight ends due to I think we'll get tremendous production out of that group Yeah Sean mccune has always been the guy that's you know really lead the way together great game plan and we preparation and practice will be key and we're GONNA have to we're going to have to play our best I could be in in a certain himself in blocking any linebackers along the line of scrimmage and not just him I mean the other tight ends are doing that too I think that's really as of When he was here we go with that came about twenty minutes before they can they could blow us clear out of the stadium and we're good enough to blow them clear out of the stadium it's PRI- in reality it's going to be who knows who to block as violent as as good as as you could ever want and he's and he's more and more every single week really getting dialed all of us right off the film telling you good enough to or you know what we're good enough to blow them right off the field or this could be one you just got it you just gotTa do it in that Room Sharon Moore has done a done a great job of that a source of pride and blocking is and you could blow them out or they could play as good as they're capable we don't play as good as we're capable and they're they're good enough to blow us out or both teams in have gotten better to the receiver blocking is is improved you know really steadily especially over the last Daddy ought to tell the story I just thought of talking to somebody earlier the debt Perry with Perry would say about a game I mean they're good yeah so we continue talking a little bit about the Michigan Notre Dame game because you talked about second third week early in the season you were looking for that second run he's really good and Big Rogaine force and we were completely dialed in now that this is the most and you know this is the biggest game on the schedule and put and he you know now you it's tough to tell the difference between Shaw mccune and Nicky banks when they're blocking Eric all when when he often in the running game and and then the blocking and there's there's two or three of them that you have to come in there and really put their nose on people the way the fullback you two three weeks and they're they're sending that that that played a huge role in rushing for over three hundred yards in the game true Wilson's touchdown the Patterson ah you guys are doing a great job with him as you laid him up and he can where you come across the four may not always running direction the old days of the wall back as good as they're capable let's one heck of a game I need to apologize you said very very well one thing I love to hear my voice in defense every time he was in the game in the back there is forty two forty two's right there he's right there he was you know where he's going who is blocked close nice and towed I I've got this game figure it out I've watched a lot of picture he's didn't call it film Lotta pictures on this team and again I'm pretty well figured out this team is good enough you see the Shinola store they have unbelievable watches coach and apparently they got an even brand new watch that matches everything in our wardrobe the Wolverine detroiter so the Tom Tom he always gives me a ten percent discount I bought all of our coaches Shinola watches Few years ago I bought your watch I said all three ways by that's a reality that's I mean if we play as good as we're capable of and they don't play as good as they're capable of I mean you can agents and he's a he's a dear friend and he has done an amazing job with this company he's and he's an even better friend and I'm GONNA say that it is well built it hold up tailgates victory parties and based on everything we've heard it holds up through monsoons as well as we found out on Saturday from numerous people that were wearing turps and we will of course talk more football next week so you've probably heard of shy Nola detroit-based design brand known for luxury timepieces maybe you go down main street name I call it the Wolverine it's Beautiful Watch it's it's got the the maze face and only watch where the it's a great watch company but they also do bags. They also do bikes bicycles so leather leather leather goods so it's just more than watch company top car sodas he originally made this company in Detroit and hire people that were out of work and it wasn't wasn't looking to to make money he just wanted the shy nola company has has been my favorite Tom Carsodo says honoree captain here for us multiple occasions a hell of a game and we're all thinking blow us out we've blew them out what else can happen screw that up to employ people make a great product and American product and have it right here in Detroit Michigan and they've done such great work such quality were salacious linebacker I know he is coming back we'll take your right to the ball it's not anymore blocking the defensive end on the other side he could be blocking the defense and to his answer or returning back to big ten plays guys out to Maryland this weekend early thoughts on heading down to play the types yes it's always a tough ball game every team we everything we play is the equivalent room because you know somebody who didn't have the right rain jacket or something every carew Hazlitt was taking care of our players that he's spinning around and take that also maybe I have nothing to confirm that I'm GonNa go on record and say I'm not talk to Tom About this or or the end end but give it a shot mation transformation well I'll tell you somebody very very wise gave me some great advice right after NCWA's and they said terrific and he said you point out Ben Mason of course that's do we have a more favorite player on the team I don't think we do and then the the the not a lot of time with my mom sister my wife family people really that I trust and I decided to reach out so maybe if you say if you mentioned Jim Harbaugh Sancha and you want to get to wolverine maybe they'll give you ten percent discount they might be the listeners of course I screwed that up wonderful product is fantastic to watch that where and if and Jack Harbaugh in the future and eventually will also and that's what I'm counting on go online to Shinola DOT COM but hurry they're in demand especially this time of year to pick up this beautiful time go down to main street we got the Shino store right on main street I thought I was going to start the next day but I had to wait four weeks to start the program and I went and along with that I my wife bought me a book from my birth to permanent arbor called ideally dot com and researched it and made an appointment and so hunger wasn't nothing to do that sandwich now there you go all three ways locker five minutes before you on there you get your helmet on the sweats come down over your call it come on and Fellas fellas commodity now time for our guest in here attack stay the harbaugh's podcast and we bring in in his sixth years ahead water polo coach University of Michigan Doctor Marcello Arsala you gotta look at yourself in the mirror and I took that two ways one I took it literally in the now so Turkey figuratively in a lot of soul searching seventy pounds my faith is back in my heart I'm healthy I'm hungry and and it's super important that throughout this entire process that I rediscovered IRA not only rediscovered reinvented myself but I they called high-performance advocates by Brendon Burchard and I did it transformational change where on day one hundred and thirty five I've lost the troll at the game on Saturday so it holds up through the weather holds up of course for tailgates and Game Day it is a beautiful time piece and you can find it at the cheinal and our per location but there should be rambling going on right now it is a beautiful time piece as you mentioned the May space with the blue detail at the numbers and the second marks it's got the blue watchband I'll be I'll be ninety five ninety ninety four ninety four when you can do it you can do it you think I can I know you all gather together work that this company is is one of the best run Tom Lewanda are WHO's a graduate assistant here when I was here is the the C O quickly off the record granddaughter Grace came after your first meeting and she was very Wednesay Jim Yep very that was a while ago dead what it's time for you to get a new watch white herd in I will be by Jack Harper Twenty five pounds and they've been able to keep it off but I know exactly what you're saying well you look great feel good shape he's been in thirty years okay pillar of success is integrity you know and you know you could see that in both literature you see that in every great coach integrity and being honest and and the person that I was a long time ago where you know mom and dad had a big say in in who I was going to become Jim I'll tell you we lived a certain standards and you know we're not perfect and sometimes your own ego and arrogance Ardi Dr Leonardi welcome to the show thank you for having me it's it's a pleasure to be with all of you did I I we gotTa get off we've talked a little bit earlier tell us about the transfer I'm glad that reached out like that so that's mine as well and you see the pendulum swinging the other way as a here when Michigan Plays Notre Dame again in thirty three nineteen thirty thirty thousand will you might as well wait for the game returning Oceano and told the story and it impacted your team greatly so well I definitely appreciate that because it was powerful program honesty and integrity yeah it is a double edged sword you know that sometimes you know sometimes it comes back but I also think that it's doctor Marcello Leonardi the head water polo coach for University of Michigan here on a tacky stay the harbaugh's podcast and now back to attack each day the Harbach podcast I woke up on one evening and found out I had a heart attack and went in the next day and they did four bypasses and then I lost come into play and that's one of the first things I stripped down and and really be vulnerable in order to really get the most out of my team right and my program uh-huh and you can find out all the information about Nola at SHY NOLA DOT COM coming up next we're going to talk to our guest for this week's podcast the head coach of your daughters teams out because of that and it's unwavering you know and we all have our tests right we all have our demons at times at tests us but at the end of the day you hold strong and yeah no no no no not at all not at all guilt kill Jack Transformation mine was a little different than yours Gordon because no matter what you hold that that standard and that's the truth and people know exactly what they're going to get from you Dane and yeah he's done it for like two and a half three years I mean three tries to set records he he wants to wants to be the most healthy lived along I talked about in the pyramid though a team the pyramid the levels and I'm going to test you on that right now in a week and a half ago came over to the House on a Sunday and my mom and dad are they're kind of eaten in tell the story of Pera now heads well I had it ready either teed up coach congratulations on the big win over Notre Dame now that's in the rear view mirror so good luck again as a college coach I mean what what better message can you can you send to your players then near and your coaches and everybody accessory today but the vulnerability is is intrical part of that entire philosophy of of you know once obviously I came to grips with where I was and where where I wanted to go was just being honest with them you know and what's interesting is my number one and vulnerability is one of the giant parts of the trust part now being able to say do you have a better idea or let's move into whatever the answers that we work out twenty hours yeah we we we have free you say to a freshman girl nor to college at Sarah said Yep it's not freshman fifty it's the freshman fifteen to which for Accountability Five Team Goals My pyramid is not in here anyway I wrote it on my whiteboard yeah just so I'd have it because go ahead I'm going to go to the different my goal now my goal at eighty years old simple and clear I want to be no doubt about it though dad I mean that's that's Patrick Lindsay Oni Guy Patrick let's Yoni dysfunction of a t one by one of my all time favorite I put ball it's time to talk about attacking life each day with an enthusiasm unknown demand kind this is attack each day the harbaugh's pod stuff and kind of in the kitchen so Jack Harbaugh comes up to grace and goes grace your freshman the only reason dysfunctions of a team so when you mentioned that word it it detained funny story coach so grace was over the most recent one though Jack Jack had a soccer game on Saturday so Saturday morning he came down to pop because that'll be your your son collars goals to the list there come along to the Game Bring Papa here we capacity and finally team goals team goals those are the five go over one more time issue number one trust to conflict three commitment Patterson was a lead blocker took down the field and in the NBA real fast didn't ame look fish stayed out in front of him all the way into the end zone very much and now injury okay the five dysfunctions of the pyramid the basis trust we all know that the second one is conflict that's right you need you need to have conflict you need to express yourself contagious you know people know who what they're dealing with on a daily basis which is good so it's the truth the truth is set you free about the data I don't think that was I mean I I know you I know you in it's there's a lot of good in there there's a lot of good in there and house to do batting practice they're hitting hitting the tea into the net and and local John Fairburn came down to pick up Jack to take him to to soccer games smoked a good one over the field and then so they're kind of walking off and Papa goes to Jack Jack if you don't get a goal today don't bother few test you trust trust the base Matt is the hierarchy of needs no this is Patrick Lane Eh resolved like you have you look great though thank you listen to your story and I'm deeply moved by it I just Tavee test me I I'd be able to pass the test but when you mentioned do you I probably many times in your life but never so much as lookout for the freshman fifty eight that's I don't think it's like And probably okay one last hit and Announces Jack Harbaugh this will be his final final at bat of the day and then so he hits a he and then the third one this man cannot get he we've been doing this for years the third one is commitment to the next one the next one this is talk about the rest of us so we're we're was great Swiss go out to the car we go out to the car and you pulled me aside and then reprimanded me tell me he in the high school about you'd better get twenty points or don't bother coming so you wonder what what kind of bag of tricks I have going on the coming home I reflected back there was a lot of could but there's a lot of good at times own of mankind success that we've experienced in the past but they've been taught the right ways and so we put a premium this year on character we've put a premium on so we hope that the work that we've done in the previous three to four years now it's their time they they can seize the moment and capture the the freshman young hungry talented and I complimented with a couple sophomores juniors that are now ready to take the realm and student athletes that are back in Australia in Mattie steer and Abby Andrews who are prepping for Tokyo they're taking the year off I brought in eight incoming right now I'm thinking there's some hidden messages of the day if we do it at the pace that brings everybody along and then we continue to figure out you know through a relationship buildings we figure out what teach the fundamentals we've stressed the basics why because we feel that if we do that that will be there at the end in April or May your record in the WPA which is the league that Michigan Plays Water Polo in time coach of the year in the back in two thousand sixteen and were the field like he's never seen Jack play soccer before I don't worry we'll get back here but he was talking about papa he's seventeen the numbers are all super impressive so now you as you said great your last year now you're into that building this team as you have an upcoming season I was gonna come over to your offices sneak up the back stairs stay there there's there's good in there I mean there's people out there they're probably I play defense I play defense I can't come down that's what the coach May tell you but you are all telegu cost go down and when it counts the most and so I feel like we have to do it the right way sometimes they want to go faster and sometimes they want to go to the left of the right but at the really gets underway in earnest in January but talk about the hand that you've been are the really yourself well this is for us it's an Olympic year so I have to what you do if you didn't get a goal because what Papa Papa said if you don't get if I didn't get a goal not to bother coming home I go what was your plan if you didn't get it going I was going to be each day the Harbach podcast in his six year now here great year last year let's talk about that well in his first five years here four times the NCAA tournament thirty six in two careers this push here and there it will take care of itself and so we're not in the business of making excuses you know we're in the business of doing it the right way which I'm sure S. as you know my daughter grace freshmen this year on the water polo team and I was watching her go through the recruiting process and the different places. Initially I could've sworn Jim Harbaugh just answer for you there's so many things that resonate between the two of you guys you know His grace was going through the recruiting process and she would tell me about the experiences and things and then and she finally decided on Michigan and asked her why Michigan and he said it was really just it had the I was rooting for that but to hear that come from her just everything was at the highest level in her opinion and else so you're doing a great job I feel like the guy who's in curling yeah there's the guy who has the mallet there what do they call that Ireland tailed and get a penny joined by Dr Martha Leonardi Michigan's Water Polo coach here so excited to be on the team and the fact that the that the chemistry of the team was so good in so nurturing I mean that was that was the other thing and freshman that they were the nicest girls and the and they were the best team and just said okay that's fantastic securely etc and then you know barring heaven forbid injuries right it's very demanding and so we start six in the water best of everything the Best Coaching the best academics the best campus the best girls that best upper class men and juniors so we've got we've got four quarters each quarter lasts eight minutes so it's a thirty two minute game and in a high level match eight every three thirty to four thirty and we're talking about focused high energy you come in you you play your role your wrestling in the water you're executing on with one goalie that seven so if I'm playing twelve to fourteen in one high level game imagined a weekend where I play four I mean sixteen to eighteen because our programs in a state where other recruits can come in and take a look at that and go hey this is where I wanna be you know so because he's four years go by quick I have watched water pool I don't know of a more demanding sport 'cause I'm not much of a water guy but the be out there how how long are the shifts match stay forty-five minutes and yeah yeah and so how's the the skip shot is that I love that where they just let's say I'm playing UCLA or Stanford one game one day I will play anywhere from twelve to fourteen right so I I wrote sure so excited that they a lot of the girls live together and look out for each other like that was really exciting well I want you know I'm a big fan now I'll I'll be there I'm your number one I'll tell you what the number one thing is well is you come to water both sides defense and offense and then you add the variation of power plays like in hockey right so that you have situational as you got right handers lefthanders as you know if you could recruit based on character the talent is always there right I want to say like the water polo see that's easy the water since we've got counterattacks structure I mean we've got power plays advantage disadvantage I mean we you take five different sports you slap it together and you get water polo easy character and effort if you got those things you can get everything else everything else exactly and so I'm happy that she's here and I'm happy that you know got top shelf corners dribblers side skips and it depends on the type of shooter but how the ball comes out of your hands forty-five it's also how the reading it off the water right so it's not just seeing the big yellow ball coming at you but it spinning it's hitting the there is good in there Jack also tobacco plan just in case any gotta go John said he was all over Hollywood have I would think the stuff how fast is occupied move about seventy eighty miles an hour probably we're talking for us about maybe thirty five to forty give me that same thing so I can't take credit for that I gotTa give credit obviously to our staff and you know the people that make this place Michigan but all into water polo one shot to where they kind of come back like if I was a righty and I was facing right and then they do it behind their back with a backhand your physical fitness is that whole different yeah it's always reading water tread strategy someone like basketball the assistant coach Josh Howard credit for this because he he focuses and works with our our team on skipped shots and it's the trajectory right but you know you've got different types of skips they check their fingernails yes what would be the reason for that I don't I crashing scratching it opponent perhaps under the water of the water where the girls are out on the water where they can't touch bottom right you can't touch the side of the way I mean they just got to tread water stay above water you'll be well there's two parts one there's a glacier effect right where to ninety percent below the water ten percent above the water right so the tannock found out real quick right okay so they checked for nails because see my hands are under the table right here right obviously for the audience can't see it but I could be moving my hands all around and scratching right so they checked to see if there's any nails daggers anything that might end up cutting in hurting so wow so that's the main reason is for the girls get scratched up and absolutely figure that you had to figure that out Could be prouder or happier as you do that great analogy by the way I'm GonNa use that one I gotta say the Chris Hinton senior the Bro sweeper sweeping sweeping it right and the red down yeah couldn't be tendency fair and doesn't here now here's my one point I before we get too far along gracious telling me that before the game and on Saturday UC Irvine and Ucla all in one day the next day you have two more competitions yes or when Jack Ac- for the first time up close and Personal Michigan invitation back yeah it's it's a skill set you take the defender one way the goalie bites and then you come back the other way well I will tell you this in order to create a schedule I mean think about it we're we're at the University of Michigan where in the Mid West right so most teams you take a look at Stanford Ucla sce in cal- The the teams that are in the top four right they just have to travel south and north are you still check and you'll see after the game at half time they walk through and there's gashes and scratches and physical our granddaughter's involved in play three legit teams I think it's a learning process now when it when push comes to shove I'm GonNa go out and I'm going to schedule where for us in order to get high quality opponents we've got to be willing to travel and scheduled teams and maximize our time so for me to go or a backspin and the trajectory of where you initially a little bit of physics going right I gentle soul but when she's in the water competitive as they come so I wonder where she gets that from warms the cockles have picks and oh yeah cuts to join into the into the Yeah Really Oh yeah we got pressed Defense Zones E I you're talking about managing roster is whether it's travel or at home for example you guys go on the road to first competitions this week you don't have data practices your data every day but at the end of the day you really can't simulate a Stanford you really can't simulate that you just can you need to go out there and play you need to see how they travel how they're on the bus do they get there on time all these little things right meals etc roommates and then is level or so is probably about right a controlled environment where there's nobody coming achy skate into it and hit it as hard as you can there's also no gear for our goalie Fired off the water and it skips up so you know like in football you got that tight spiral yeah you put tight backspin on the ball it's either a side Rostov that you know the guy the dad is stone he's throw it down the ice best he can and then there's you the school the rest of the week in training gives us a lot of information so when we plan this you know it's very methodical we taper back down we allow the kids do well in school we allow them to enjoy college go home for Christmas which is as you know family comes first yeah right ski you imagine that those big gloves like soccer where you can wear them up over the Mickey Mouse Ones Right fingers on them conference in what are the teams in the conference that's a good question so it's the collegiate water Polo Association so the big ten does not sponsor an actual conference no play for two months then after that so how do these games work into your overall and then how do you build your seat well I would probably relate it to in another January twenty fifth and twenty six here Cannon Editor Man Arbor which is your your third of end of the season that's two events each day yes I can't even imagine the maybe Max two games on one day but for now this gives me a Lotta data film allotted to be able to come back and you squeeze the water and all of a sudden it's like if you misread it ball's going in the game it's a great question I bet the hockey puck you've got to be up in the hundreds it's gotta be faster than a fastball right the air it's we're hoping a lot there's a lot of interest there's a lot of club but not Division One varsity and so we have we used to have Indian sport taking a plane date from your spring like maybe spring football or basketball and it's kind of like the carrot you know the extra motivation to denying all you lefty righty too you know you're throwing a favor out right kind of spin on the ball you throw in US slant kind of trajectory putting on it's the same Brown we have George Washington Bucknell University Saint Francis from Loretto PA and then ourselves and so when I first now who's moved to the NPS conference right we have IB's which Princeton Harvard we provider and then January second we are back we hit the ground running and we're in season you mentioned conference we kind of touched what where I can take sixteen student athletes I can play them all get a lot of data comeback breakdown and then from there build upon that and over the last couple years you know we're trying to maintain the level of excellence within our conference right because as the representative as a conference out here six years ago the conference was rich Hartwick was university was in there and Indiana's well and it was very very competitive right champion we go to NC Double A.'s and we represent but at the end of the day we're we're part of the big ten right even though we're CDO similar to some of the schools also big less a lot of conferences don't have their natural conference and so they have to philly eight themselves with other conferences in order to combat Lot of lot of reasons behind why we do stuff methods to our madness right so yeah and then from there Michael Ware and tear of just forget the moving around just this water for the parts of a to just that alone oh yeah here you're playing three games in a day or two game today five games in a week NDIP having academics they have financial aid they're financially their slots their academic slots that they use in order to fill kids. Yeah so it's interesting because you're in a league with a couple of Ivy League schools ships are a lot different in the big ten in the Ivy League but they also have their formats you're right you know the in candidate the senior team on Sunday which qualified for the Olympics and we finish off at Pomona college a Skyhawk opponent so now I have five five games where giving carbone I lost our exit math right I gotta give a fun catching up with you here on the show Dr Marcella Leonardi and you have the ladies in the pool this week in California and he said you let them finish up the semester they go home for Christmas and then you table and then the WPA's you'll have opportunities to see the team here in Ann Arbor coming up in April so three big contests that you guys are hosting January coming up next Jack Talk here on attack each day the podcast if you like our show you're gonNA love the official Lakers podcasts on podcast one join Emmy Award winning sports reporter Jack Once again I'm sure you've got some great stuff for us so what do you have this week I talk tonight Tuesday night I get a chance being with skip shop so the goalie must have the same kind of quick flick of twitch twitch tra- The hockey do we have something right could you imagine going three and a half months of training and not plane live I mean that you're doing the student athletes a disservice and plus for welcome to Hashtag Jack Talk it's now time for everybody's favorite segment of the week here on the podcast time for Jack Talk here on attack each day the harbaugh's podcast Ford Hey let me let me tell you it looks like a lot a lot going on under the water hey let me tell you for grace or priority this and that so this is the conference that we're in and we got to win it right to delays all coach it's been here's a big one the red-eye coming back right traveling to California that's a blessing for us but coming back on that red eye and then seeing how they respond to student athlete so then shuster and Co host Aaron Lawrenceville as they discussed the Lakers news of the day break down the games from the week and had exclusive interviews players coaches in sports personalities that but for us to as you know we're part of this conference and we respect it and we represent it but we're also big ten school which makes us proud is the official Lakers podcast every week on podcast one or wherever you get your favorite podcasts this is Jack Doc I wanNA listen I want to be better I want to be the best

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Falato on Football: NFC & AFC North draft reviews

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Falato on Football: NFC & AFC North draft reviews

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Nick faldo and today we are going to be going over the nfc in afc north's drafts just a quick review on maybe the team's philosophy who they selected and the immediate impact they can have on the current roster and we're going to start and kick this off with the minnesota vikings who had a whopping eleven picks so so in round one they trade back and select off. It's of tackle out of virginia tech christian derek saw and in any picks round two but they had four round. Three picks quarterback kellen at texas am chess raw inside linebacker at a north carolina. Wia davis opens guard at ohio state. Patrick jones defensive end at pittsburgh and then on days three convey nuuanu iowa state running back with selected over kennedy gain while which was interesting cam. Bynum california cornerback to norris robinson. Florida state defensive. End amir smith marquette iowa wide receiver zach davidson central missouri tight end and then jalen wineman pittsburgh defensive tackle and i think it was an interesting draft because another minnesota vikings were more than likely incredibly high on elijah barrett tucker who they traded back with the new york jets for two third round picks that's why they had so many third round picks and they allowed the jets to scoop him up but they still drop down to pick twenty three and they were able to select christian dera so they ended up getting an offensive tackle and i think they probably look at their roster and view some unlike as cleveland as somebody who they drafted as an offer to tackle out of boise state last year in the second round but now they can kick him inside to guard. 'cause i think about a team analyze avera tucker and i do believe you would have been. For what mike zimmer and clint kubiak their offense coordinator want to do here in minnesota. A lot of stretch sewn a lot of inside zone just a lot of zone concepts in general. I think that's i think tucker can fit in any system. But i think that's where a large avera tucker could thrive and he's also really versatile. You camplin tackle if you ask them to despite his short arms and he can play inside at either guard position but they're able to get a possible left. Tackle the future in christian darris all with the trae back adding the extra capital. I think it ended up being a good outcome for the minnesota vikings so then they didn't have a second round pick and then you look at callan. Monde who quarterback at texas am and. I think this is really interesting as well. Because there's money tied up in kirk cousins. But he doesn't seem to be long-term answer for the minnesota vikings kelham on beat that they made him the second pick in this draft class so obviously they probably have a high grade on him. They could've traded up to possibly get with the new york giants but the new york giants doubt they were going to the vikings at is give up a first round pick to move up a couple of spots. They went in a different direction and looks like may work out from the sense that they end up getting good offensive tackle. Endorse all somebody which finished a little bit stronger because he just took some off. It seemed like. But somebody. Who i think mike zimmer can get that and coach that out of him because mike zimmer berry demanding coach kelham on. That's interesting and then you get at inside. Linebacker get surat. Help beef up your offensive line with wyatt davis somebody who is recovering from some but brings a lot of tenacity a lot zone experience there at ohio state. And then you look at the trenches. They ended up getting patrick jones. He's somebody who a lot of people really high on. Had a solid twenty twenty went down to the senior bowl and didn't live up to his two thousand nineteen year but he falls the third round. that's solid value. Engineer robinson florida state defense invented and jalen climb. And you can tell you. Just look at this draft with two offense of linemen and those three trench players that the vikings want to get stronger in the trenches. They were one of the worst rush. Defenses last year and you add climbing. Who's a player. That played well but then tested really poorly so you get him in his six round. That's actually a pretty solid pick. And this is what the vikings liked to do that. Love to bank on day. Three on traits on athletic ridiculous types of players like generis robinson who has all the physical traits and also all the athletic ability to thrive in the interior but didn't put it all together at florida state. They gave him in the fourth round. Then you get zach davidson somebody who was just dominant twenty nine thousand nine hundred as a tight end huge tight end prospect six foot seven two hundred and forty five pounds did not play in twenty twenty because of kobe and all that so you end up adding him. He's going to be raw player but still trait. Mere smith marquette traits. That's what you're looking for it. He has the burst. The explosiveness the vertical ability. But he played in iowa's offense and they're not necessarily a vertical downfield type of offense. They're much more conservative. Under kirk bryan fans the end up getting him in the fifth round and i honestly think amir smith marseille can be a wide receiver who can look to operate out of the slot and eleven personnel win. That job over the likes of chad. An olabisi johnson who are playing right now with adam and justin jefferson at the other two and i also think smith is going to be pretty solid tight end without houdief not there. But that's beside the point right now. I like this draft. I mean this is a lot of players you can kind of step in and they can make an impact. I think longo is. They wouldn't like. I said they selected them over kenneth gain. Well they bring him into the fold. They have alexander madison. Were they drafted in the third round. Back in twenty nine thousand. I'm not hundred percent. Sure how comfortable they are with him. It seemed like he gets dinged up. Every time and cook is dealing with an injury. So now you're bringing this guy who can give you definitely special teams value but possibly could earn snaps. Madison doesn't rise to the occasion. Solid overall draft for the minnesota vikings. So let's go to the detroit. Lions real fast and the detroit lions. When you have dan campbell and you also want to look at their front office. They bring in brad homes from the los angeles. Rams also bring an agnew and also john dorsey so you have a bunch of different types of personalities and people with a lot of nfl. Experience there to kinda help dan campbell. Their newly hired head coach. Run the show. They bring an anthony. Linda be their offense coordinator. The former coach of the chargers have aaron glenn former defensive back in the nfl as defensive coordinator and they're draft goes as follows swale at seven which is excellent levi on the riga deep of tackle from washington aleem mcneil north carolina. State the tackle i e to mellow bond. Woo syracuse cornerback on raw saying brown. Usc wide receiver down. The starts the day three trends. Derrick barnes fourth round pick inside linebacker purdue and then jamal jefferson in the seventh round running back to oregon state. And i like this draft. I mean let's be honest about the detroit lions. They had a lack of talent on their roster. There was a turnover here. And you have the crazy opening. Press conference with dan campbell talking about chewing on people's kneecaps and just wants to bring toughness so you want to beef up the trenches. They're you add swell. Who can be your starting right tackle. I would say with taylor decker. Still being on the left side. And he'll be groomed to be the long term left tackle peninsula. But that's an excellent edition right there and then the defensive line you bring in michael brockers brad. Homes helped draft over their loss angeles. You have trey flowers still there. But then you draft a lean mcneil and leave owns a rica. And to be honest levi. He's a one gap penetrator who can really thrive as three technique. And i believe nick. Neal is somebody who you can also move around and kind of. Allow him to use his penetration skills. Because i north carolina's state basically just one tech and a nose. But he has that initial quickness and those heavy hands to get up field and put pressure on the quarterback. So you're able to get onto rita macneil in the second and third round. Then what your last third round pick you get mellon fondue fee to mellon fondue. syracuse cornerback. Big long type of corner can thrive in zones cover three type concepts and i feel even know he is big he can have enough athletic ability or he does have enough athletic ability to operate with his hips and play man coverage and obviously you have jeff okudah who you're drafted in the first round last year. You drafted a mani or warrior from penn state in the fifth round back in twenty one thousand nine snaps mellon fond will kind of take over that role. These are a bunch of interesting pieces. That derrick barnes the purdue kid can definitely kind of step in and just bring their toughness that dan campbell is looking to instill on the defense and then almond rousing brown who could be the steel of this draft class in the fourth round right there. The there's nobody to catch passes here on this team shod paramount terrell williams quintez cephus. Who's a solid guy with the human. The fifth brown last year. I look at a lot of these receivers. And i think i'm ron brown. Could be a seventy to eighty catch type guy in year one especially with his team trailing lots. I think that could definitely be an interesting addition. So i really like what mayans were actually able to do here with limited resources and just the fact that this roster is just not not great right now. I think a lot of these guys can have an impact early on for. This team helped build a culture here and even jamaa jefferson and intestinal that. Well but gordon the gps tracking. He was one of the fastest running backs in the draft coming out of oregon state. I think that's a solid addition as well when you look the detroit. Lions running back from right now. Lebron jamaal williams physical back from green bay. They have the andre swift drafted in the second year last year. I think jamal jefferson could be that change of pace type of individual there for the detroit lions so good work for the lions They're still going to be a bad football team more than likely this year. So let's move on to. the chicago. Bears the team that the giants traded back to twenty with. They came up. The tenant selected justin field quarterback at ohio state and then the second round the traded up to get oklahoma state. Tackle heaven jenkins. And they didn't have a pick until the fifth round where they selected offense of tackle. Larry boreham for six round with khalil. Herbert virginia tech running back das- newsom north carolina wide receiver and thomas. Graham junior oregon cornerback in the seventh round. They go with kyrie's tonga. Byu defensive tackle and trading up getting their potential franchise guy for the next ten years and then landing kevin jenkins to help protect him. I think that was an excellent one two punch in. It's exactly what chicago needed to remember. Ryan pace selected mitchell trubisky and the next year in two thousand eighteen. Matt nagy came into that head coach. So matt nagy gets to pick his guys somebody. Who's on the hot seat ryan. Pace is on the hot seat and not a lot of general managers. Get two kicks at the can to select a quarterback for that franchise ryan pace is on thin ice. But he's able to get justin field here. And i think that is a great development for chicago. Chicago never has the quarterback they just seemed to never have the quarterback they thought trubisky was going to be the guy that did not work out. They bring an andy dolan. They still have nick foles on the roster but by mid season at least if not in the beginning of the season justin field should be the starter. He's very very talented individual. And now he has headed jenkin to protect him at left tackle along with the strong interior off of lyon. They have with james daniels and cody white hair and kicked germain feddie in their play. Right guard on the right side. Larry king compete with elijah wilkerson to be that right tackle. I haven't necessarily watched much film on missouri. Offensive line for larry barnes. His skill set. I don't want to speak on it because that would be disingenuous. But i love what the bears did the six round with these two pit specifically khalil. Herbert running back out of virginia. Tech and thomas graham oregon cornerback khalil. He's just somebody that has been a consistent player went down to the senior bowl and actually showed a lot of skills as past protector. He's about five foot. Ten two hundred and ten pounds. You have to re cohen. Come off the serious injury. And then you have david montgomery the kid. They dropped out of iowa state. A few years ago bringing damian williams who opted out of the twenty twenty season. I think that running back room is actually pretty interesting now. David montgomery really had a breakout year. In two thousand twenty especially down the stretch of the season bring khalil her. But i think that was excellent. Value there in the six round. He's somebody that. I had higher grade on than gary brightwell. Who the giants drafted a few picks before khalil. Herbert so i think that was a good get by the bears. And then thomas graham he somebody pac twelve. He doesn't have a biggest size but he's a player that has a lot of production at the catch. Point brings a high level of disruptive to the catch point went down the senior thought had really good i practice and then had a really poor second third practice in ends up sliding him down too late in day three and i still think that he's somebody who can step into the bears roster on defense and possibly earn snaps. He can be kicked into the slot if needs be but he probably won't start super early on and then tonga's just rotational defensive. Lineman has solid lateral quickness. But there's a lot of depth here on his defense with the chemo. Hicks belong nichols. Mario eddie goldman you have guys like angelo blacks down there. Think of tonga could earn some snaps their but again later down the overall outlook at the bears draft the fact that they were able to get the quarterback in the left tackle was huge. But other than that. These are all bunch of days. Three kicks at can doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be excellent. You know they need some development. But i think the khalil herbert graham selections are specifically. Pretty solid gets by ryan pace. Now let's go to the green bay packers now. The green bay packers are aaron interesting team. Now we don't know if aaron rodgers is gonna be the starter. This year seems like every day. There's worse news and matt floor. And this coaching staff nathaniel hackett. Who's the oc. They're basically pleading. Brian goudie coincident general manager of the pleading. They want aaron rodgers back but aaron rodgers seemed like he doesn't necessarily want to be there because he seemed slighted by the jordan love selection when they traded up to get him the twenty twenty draft and earn rogers goes and has his mvp season and he still playing at a high level despite the fact that he's thirty seven years old this draft class at they actually finally added a wide receiver but in the first round. They select eric stokes at pick twenty nine. georgia cornerback. Second round josh meyers ohio state center to replace corey lansley. Who is now on the chargers in the third round they go with amari. Rogers clemson wide receiver. The son of t martin quarterback who helped tennessee win the national title. Not peyton men then in the fourth round. They go with royce. Newman ole miss offensive guard fifth round daryl slate in florida defensive tackle chamara jones charles appalachian state cornerback Six round coleman lennon wisconsin offensive tackle. Kind of keep him home is. Am mcduffie boston. College inside linebacker in the seventh round keilan hill at a mississippi state. The running back who mike leach came down there and still. His offense did not mesh well with kyle hill and he just fell down. Boards didn't have the senior bowl. Either so i think stokes has all the athletic traits transitions are good. I don't believe he has the best ball skills or anticipation on routes not my favorite cup of tea especially not in the first round. I thought it was a little bit of a reach. But the packers are looking to add. That cornerback pair with j. or alexander. Who's one of the top three cornerbacks in the league. To thrive next or dried within joe berry's system at corner they bringing kevin king who a lot of people remember for being torched the playoffs this past year but they signed him to a one year deal he might end up. Starting at stokes is in quite there yet. the packers love to bank on upside. They love to bank on athletic ability. And they get that with eric stoltz stokes. They also get that inamori rogers. But it's kind of weird. Because i feel like the pack always look for a prototype wide receiver. Somebody who's above six foot one somebody who's very very fast and it's not a rodgers. My rogers is more of that randall. Cobb type of ilk about five or ten stout two hundred and ten pounds you know. Very thick contact bounds can be used in. A variety of different ways is good in the slot. Hasn't had shown his ability as a running back out of the backfield in the senior bowl and was operated that way at his pro day. As well and i think he could be an interesting player. To four this nathaniel. Hackett offense four aaron rodgers if he does decide to come there because he's a totally different type of player than the davante adams. Who's a stud allen. Lazard was a biscuit away from being a tight. End is a big bodied guy. Marquis valdes scantling big body. Guy with speed nimia sing brown big body guy with speed and now you have a maurie rodgers to be that shiftier guy in space with contact balance runs low who can also receive hands. I think that's a good value for tamari rogers in the third round and i also hear his character is through the roof. So that's pretty cool. You have been a rogers coming in. You have a rogers. Possibly going now. But i know packers fans probably don't like that too much but a versatile guy same with royce newman. Another versatile guy played offensive line. Play each tackle position both guard positions can kind of move him around. Wherever you wanna put him. So i think that's a good depth piece for the packers. Offense of line has just lost corey. And i know. They drafted myers out of ohio state. He might look to earn snaps eventually because right now looking at the depth chart of the green bay packers who had david bacteria coming off of the injury. You jon runyan inside to play. Left guard elgin jenkins one of the best interior offensive linemen young interior blaming in a game. Lucas patrick and i believe the resuming could compete to be that right guard than billy turner on the right tackle side. I'm wondering if newman or coleman lennon compete for the right tackle spot. I also think. Cold on lenin could be kicked inside and possibly compete with lucas patrick as well but the office of line that's going to be the daily added picks there but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to translate to ineffective yet we all know that the packers office of line is typically really really good but without bacteria last year you could tell that they suffered somewhat so it's interesting with the green bay packers very interested to see what's going to end up happening with them because you don't know what's going on with aaron rodgers but go back to the draft. I think van lennon's good six round addition. Somebody who can't play guard possibly tackle. Obviously he went to the university of wisconsin so keep him close to home bringing him to green bay and then a fifth round that darryl slayton selection. I think that somebody with a lot of upside they were able to get him in the fifth round there. And he's somebody who can earn snaps behind. Kenny clarke dean lowery. Because he's just a mountain of a man. A lot of people at that florida program thought that he was going to be a player that can really step up in twenty twenty and solidify himself as maybe a high day to pick and none of that happened. So i think there's a lot of upside with somebody like to daryl slade but overall the green bay draft. I don't love it. I think eric stokes is a little bit of a reach but they love their athletic ability. They love somebody who can play multiple different types of coverage is somebody camp lays on somebody who can play man covered which is what they're probably going to be doing there with joe berry so i understand it but i think there are just better players better value there at the twenty ninth pick and then some of these other selections. I haven't watched enough film onto give an accurate portrayal of who they are specifically shomar. Jean charles in isaiah mcduffie so that is the nfc north now before we get into the afc north. Let's take a quick break to hear a word from our sponsors support for this episode comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room is sports. Fans dream come true. It's alive audio platform that lets you connect with other fans experts. And even the athletes themselves locker room makes it easy to start your own conversations. Talk about the latest rumors takes news and teams you care about most joined. 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Mastercard will donate to stand up to cancer one precious cent at a time up to five million dollars together. We can start something. Priceless promotion ends on august. Thirty first twenty twenty one or when maximum five million dollar donation is reached whichever comes first debit pin and international transactions. Ineligible stand up to cancer as a division of the entertainment industry foundation. Terms apply. See mastercard dot us slash s you to see the ravens had two first round picks in the added to both sides of the football. Let's kick off their draft right here. They went with shod. Bateman picked twenty seven minnesota wide receiver. And then i picked thirty one going. Dhafi penn state outside linebacker defensive end formerly known as jason and then they did not have a second round. Pick in two third round picks. Nego ben cleveland a perfect pick for this baltimore ravens smashmouth exotic polling type of guards. Just wanna have a huge individuals on the office of line to move bodies. That's been cleveland. The office of guard at a georgia and brennan stevens. The smu quarterback and then day three picks. Some names and a lot of people may know thailand wallace oklahoma state wide receiver shaun wade ohio state. Cornerback dalen hayes. Notre dame deepens event and then ben mason. The michigan fullback to round out the fifth round. They did not have a sixth or round. Pick and i think bateman is going to significantly help lamar jackson because he somebody who runs precise routes and outside the number throwing has not been something that lamar jackson has really done. Well in the nfl. And i think bateman his route running and his ability to stay within the structure of the play and be where he's supposed to be with good timing his reliable hands ability to release. Off the line of scrimmage. All of those things are going to benefit lamar jackson. That was an excellent draft. Pick by the baltimore. Ravens fell to this big and they were able to select him. And i think that is going to work out well for bateman. You would hope us well as long as the offense coordinator gregg roman who is known for his diversity in the run game but not as much for his passing coordinator as long as he can ensure that bateman is used to his full potential. Bateman is a totally different type of wide receiver than markey's brown. Sammy watkins miles blinken. James prochet devon. Do i think the bateman thailand walls we end up getting in the fourth round. Could be two guys who were looking at towards the end of the season as players who are getting significant snaps behmen. That's obvious time not as much time on. Walls came off the acl injury. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred had a solid season in two thousand twenty. He's a deep threat with excellent ball skills and his good contested catch situation. Despite being sub six foot tile walls is going to be seeing the field this year and that was another great get by the baltimore ravens along with rashad bateman and then alwa- penn stay outside linebacker. He couldn't to a better place than a wink. Martindale coached team. Who's going to utilize his skill set in his freak athletic ability and all the upside that he has all that potential and put him into the Position blitzing on those stunts and twists with this aggressive defense. I think the coach and that he's going to get with the baltimore. Ravens is perfect for him and he's just scratching his service. He didn't have any sacks. Twenty twenty number one. I wanted to bring that up. A him going to pittsburgh. That's scary for the rest of the afc north so good job on them to land him. As i said ben cleveland. That's the most just baltimore ravens type of pick you can think of as three hundred and forty plus pound six foot six guard operating in this system that is very very power gap oriented. Now brad stevens. I haven't done a lot of film. But they just want to add more depth to their secondaries of six for two hundred thirteen pound kid long arms. And that's kind of what you're looking for. Good against the run. So imagine that what he. That's what they envision in these quarterbacks. Because they also brought in sean wade from ohio state of former. Everybody thought top. Ten pick then. He had a horrendous twenty twenty. But he's somebody who's really really physically sub two hundred pounds but he comes down a hill and he sticks people in iran. If you look at the baltimore ravens. They have a very very deep secondary with marcus. Peters jimmy smith marlon humphrey. Wade's not going to have relied on. Coaches are going to have to kind of dive in figure out why he struggled so much in two thousand twenty why he kinda fell off the map. During that season see they can recapture the solid tape that he showed in previous years at ohio state and i also really liked dalen as somebody who play the run heavy heavy hands and somebody who has a lot of pass rushing ability got him in the fifth round six foot four two hundred and fifty three pounds convert speed. The power like i said. Some flexibility is good against the run. So i love that. And ben mason. Patrick ricard on this roster so they just add another fullback and i think that's just a a baltimore ravens type of selection afc north type of selections. I think it was just an interesting draft. Overall john harbaugh and this crew. This coaching staff is general. Manager in eric. Decosta who's now a few drafts in since ozzie. Newsome retired but moving on to the a- cincinnati. Bengals who i mean. It was a lot of talk. Are they going to go with g. March chase or penny. Suo do you go with the receiver or do you go with the offense of tackle. They ended up going with the receiver. So let's go there. Draft real quick more cheese was the fifth selection in the draft wide receiver out of lsu jackson carmen in the second round. Clemson offense of lyman josephus is the third round texas defense event and they have to fourth round. Picks cameron sample tulane. Diva then tyler sheldon lsu defensive tackle deontay smith east carolina. Tackle one fifth round. Pick evan mcpherson florida. Kicker to six round picks trae hill georgia center. Chris evans michigan running back and then a seventh round. Pick wyatt huber kansas state and they just wanted to address their trenches and get tougher in the trenches. You do that by. Adding jackson carmen. You do that by adding a tyler. Shelve in the fourth round somebody who has struggled with his weight but definitely somebody that can hold. The point of attack can to gap and just command. Ea gaps as a nose or a one technique cam sample somebody who a lot of people call edge defensive end but he's a true five technique with heavy hands at good penetration ability. Deontay smith a good sign developmental tackle at of east carolina trae hill kid from georgia. They really really went after the trenches. And then why hubert who was a candidate guy short short arms hustle type of guy gets hustle sacks somebody that seventh rounds probably not gonna see feel but can be a special teams guy for you and then joseph aside and the third round that deepens event is he going to play a linebacker off. Ball is going to be an edge. I don't necessarily know if he's going to step in and start for. Cincinnati bengals with lou on our room out former new york giants secondaries coach as the defensive coordinator. Now they brought in trey hendrickson. They still have sam hubbard. You have cam sample. So it's interesting to see how they're going to rotate a lot of this defense front especially when they brought in. Dj relache year to play nose tackle. I think tyler shelf and could possibly win that job if a reader struggles drafted came davis gaither last year too. Good second level defender. logan wilson. A really really good linebacker person. They still have germain pratt on their roster. Looks like he may be a starting linebacker in a four three type of defense. I think joseph can come in he pass rusher on third down in. Kyle allow him to pinhas years back as he develops more consistency as a pass. Rusher but overall man. You look at this draft. And i'll bring up to chase before. I guess i go over the overall thing i think. Adding jomar chase with tee higgins with tyler boyd and you think about what joe burrow didn't college while he was at lsu. There might be a lot more spread concepts here. You might see a lot. More wide to buy two three by two sets with joe burrow operating out of the gun and just had him get football out of his hands. Quickly to playmakers like chase. You could win. At the line of scrimmage and go in all three levels of the field who are just a dynamic playmaker. Then you have that. Prototypical x t higgins. You have tyler. Boyd was excellent out of the slot. They liked using on tate. Who's a good red zone threat as well and you bring in trent taylor. Somebody else's something happens to one of these other slot. Receivers can step in there and be solid slot on but i mean you're looking at a lot of probably eleven plus personnel eleven personnel ten personnel sometimes five wide type formations here and another obviously try to also get joe mixing involved in the passing game. But you want to make sure that joe burrow is safe year. That's going to be paramount you brought in riley who's gonna play right tackle for you still have left tackle. John williams the interior part of your office of line can be upgraded. I think. Jackson carmen can step up. He played tackle clemson. But he's more guarded. He definitely step up and play guard and probably start over. Either spain or jordan jordan i think played solidly last year. Spain somebody at right guard and carmen could possibly up starting at that position. And then i think the other smith is a perfect. Developmental tackled kinda learn behind riley reef and could possibly start in the next coming years. So overall i look at this graph. There's a lot of selections here. And i think some of these guys can end up being impact players in year. One possibly helped this bengals team be a little bit more respectable. They're not quite a playoff team yet. And zac taylor is definitely on the hot seat. I'm not sure if he's going to be able to see the all. These draft picks developing while he's still being as head coach but he's able to get another wide receiver. He obviously wanted t higgins last year. He gets to marchese so he has the weapons not try to make this offense work but cannot protection. Hold up that's going to be something that's going to be debated did the bengals the right choice by selecting chase over. So well. i guess they do riley reaper. Somebody who can start and who still plays at a high enough level to keep joe burrow upright now. anything could be better than bobby. Hart is what i say. But i still think it's a very very interesting thing that we're going to be looking back in a couple of years so i love the chase pick. I think is interesting in the third round cam. Sample tyler shelby deontay. All good picks in my book and chris evans is an interesting running back. Who had his troubles at michigan didn't see the field as much as one would expect but in the six round that solid especially with the durability issues that joe mixon has struggled with. So let's move on to cleveland browns. And this was one of my favorite drafts. a consensus. I feel like a lot of people feel like this was one of their favorite draft so in the first round pick twenty six they go with gregg. Newsom cornerback at northwestern second round they trade up jeremiah. Woo sukhoi moa ended up falling the inside linebacker from notre dame but he really plays a bunch of different position there round anthony swartz auburn wide receiver fourth rounds day. Three james hudson's cincinnati offense of tackle. Tommy tokai ohio state tackle and then in the fifth round. Tony fields. the second the west virginia linebacker. Richard leconte georgia's safety and then dimitri felton the wide receivers slash running back from ucla in the six round and literally getting someone like greg. Newsom was just excellent at twenty six and that was their achilles heel last year. Dan's award has been dinged up a lot but when he's on the field he's excellent. You have joe woods as your d. coordinator and you need to shore up that secondary. Because like i said a secondary has been injured. Lock you williams struggles to stay on. The field. dens award has been dealing with his injuries. Grant delpit safety. They draft in the second round and lsu missed the majority of the season. But you bring in. John johnson whose excellent coming down the alley. You still have ronnie harrison as well. I think you add greg newsom and you just edged perfect pairing with dens award to keep yourself in your defense one two punch as players who can execute every type of coverage who are nuisances at the catch point who are incredibly fluid and who should not be liabilities at the line of scrimmage with their skills with their feet and their hands in press so i really loved the addition of greg newsom also brought troy nickelback this year kid from the los angeles rams i think that was just an excellent addition. Getting newsom though you trade up to get jock jeremiah. Wushu cormo. he could play overhang apex. He could play linebacker. You can try them at safety athletic physical enough to do all those things. Even though he's not even two hundred and twenty pounds near the lot of linebackers here bring anthony walker. You still have saone taki. Taki malcolm smith. Now wilson jakup phillips with a lsu in the third round last year also. Add tony fields at the fifth round. I think a lot of town here for joe woods to get creative with i mean he is to first overall selections on his defensive line with myles garrett into davian clowney. You brought intact mckinley as well. You still have andrew billings. Maliki jackson now comes in to be on your defensive line draft. Tommy toga i somebody. I think can really get pressure on the quarterback on third down if you want to line him up as a one technique and he's also a developmental guy. Get him in round three think. That is excellent. Selections right there from the cleveland browns. And then anthony schwartz. He's just incredibly athletic. Speedster out of auburn. We don't know the long-term stance with jarvis landry and odell beckham on this team. And i think schwartz is somebody who could step in the nfl right now. Be one of the fastest guys really helped baker mayfield offense out. You can line them up in the slot in steal a little. Bit of snaps from rashad higgins donovan. People's jones is a totally different type of receiver. But i really think that down the line a little bit you may look at schwartz or yes. He proved enough in year. One to allow browns to feel comfortable. Possibly moving on from jarvis landry or an odell beckham junior so from that standpoint it makes sense and then you have bill callahan as your offensive line coach here with alex van pelt as your office coordinator kevin stefanski ofensive head coach. Ed you bring in these developmental pieces who have a lot of upside. Like a james hudson the off of the tackle at a cincinnati who did a really good job handling a lorry in the first half of the bowl game and twenty twenty before he was unfortunately ejected from the game for targeting penalty. Disease just went off. But james hudson with that type of development he could be steel in the fourth round there but there was a lot of defensive focus here rightfully so but then in that six round they go with dmitry felon out of ucla. Somebody who went down to the senior bowl everybody was talking about because he's running back a wide receiver. He's very versatile. He's somebody who has really really quick. Jill lateral ability lateral movement skills kind of has joystick type of tendencies. About the way he moves. So i think getting him in the sixth round. And he's a low key. Steel and if kevin stefanski wants to get creative enough felton shows that he has a chance to stick on this roster he could be used creatively especially if one of those running backs end up getting injured. More specifically to kareem hunt rather than nick chubb. Who's a top running back in the league but kareem hunt ends up going down. I think felton can jump on there and be that receiving type of back. Because i think he has a little bit more upside than someone like the owners johnson who still on that roster so overall i really like what the cleveland browns were able to do in this draft. I think they had developmental upside with guys like hudson. And toby. i. And i think toga i can be good even without that development and then guys who just could be impact player on defense with newsom and jock and then schwartz wide receiver. So i really like this draft for the cleveland browns. But let's go over to the final team. We're going to talk about in the afc north on this podcast and that is the pittsburgh steelers. Pittsburgh selects nausea harrison. The first round pick twenty four running back up. Alabama pat fryer mood. In the second penn state tight end kendrick rena third round illinois center to fourth round. Picks dan moore junior and buddy johnson. Both that of texas. A&m an offensive tackle on inside linebacker respectively. Isaiah louder milk. Wisconsin defensive tackle in the fifth round six round. Quincy rochet miami outside linebacker and then to seventh round picks trained norwood oklahoma quarterback and then presley harbin the third georgia tech punter. Now the pittsburgh steelers have really focused on upgrading. their defense i feel like every year. They draft a defender in the first round but now they go three straight picks on the offensive side of the football one being a running back and ninety harris. I mean he's six foot one. Two hundred thirty. Two pounds has similar traits to levy on bell now. A lot of people have kind of made that comparison because they think of lebanon bells being a little bit smaller but when he came out of michigan state. Lebanon bell was a bigger. Algae harris. has those receiving skills. He does have patients. He's a very very physical runner. I think that pittsburgh wants to kind of emulate the offense of five ten years ago and and they did that through this draft by selecting najji harris by getting fat fryer who has similar tendencies to heath miller might be a little bit more dynamic as a receiver but can block. Can't hold up. The point of attack and eric ebron that role right. Now as the receiving tight end. But i think pratt moose will find his way onto the field and twelve personnel and also be a block or do the dirty work and then kendrick green. Which reminds me of pouncey a little bit. I'd pouncey was a better prospect coming out. But from everything i've seen kendra green he somebody who can slide in here and he could start on this office of line now that is gone and they have jay haas and wire. Bj fini as soon as. But i think hendra creek can start on. That side is still david castro. You still have kevin dotson who got in the fourth round last year. We actually had a pretty solid year. Despite the fact that this was recommending adding kendra green ads. The beef to this defensive line beat it was needed to be honest with more competent players along this front because last year. If you remember. They couldn't establish the ron. James conner was painfully slow. Trying to get to the edge and everything ben. Roethlisberger is quick passing attack so the entire defense just played up knew that that was what was coming. And they didn't have the time to throw the football deep. And we saw the offense just crumble down the final five games of the season and then into the playoffs where they just not competitive team. They weren't a team that you thought was going to end up actually making run where team that was backing their way into the playoffs. So i look at that. I think they're just trying to replicate some of the pieces that they've had in the past dan more junior. That's developmental offensive. Tackle that can kinda be groomed behind. Tacoma a core for and zach banner. Who is going to be the starting tackles right now in. Both those guys aren't necessarily that banner is brad recovered from an injury and then okorafor is now going to be playing left. Tackle has some experience on the right side was a third round. pick back in twenty eighteen. And he's he's has solid from everything that i've seen but losing alejandro little wave of isn't going to be a great loss especially since he went to the ravens even know had down twenty twenty year he was a stalwart for this offensive line for quite some time and i think quincy rochet six round is somebody who can kinda earn some snaps behind. T. j. watt and alex highsmith in may work into the rotation on third down. And you were able to get him in the sixth round. i think that's also a solid addition overall. I don't love the steelers draft. I see what they're trying to do. They needed help on the offensive side of the football already. Had a really solid defense with some all pro type guys fitzpatrick and devin bush back. You have t. J. watt any grateful to steal tyson. A lulu who is a good player from jacksonville. Somebody that played for the steelers last year and was going to go to jacksonville and then it was like you know what screw that. I'm going to go back to the steelers. He was able to come back. Still up cam heyward stefan to really really tough up the middle and in the trenches. They're on the website but they had to focus on getting tougher and getting more effective developing a rushing attack on the offensive side. So they were able to do that. Not in love at the draft but i get it from their standpoint already. Everybody this is philosophy on football here on the big blue view radio network. I'm the host nick. Faldo hope you guys enjoyed this show. Please check out all of our work over there. Big blue view. And valentine joe. Delay own chris fleming. The ganger always putting out great content and police subscribe in download. All of these podcasts. And also leave some reviews as well. You think i'm terrible. Lifson terrible reviews. Please make them five star reviews but you can trash the comments but make them five zero. 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It's nice to be say a lot of celebrating this in twenty twenty senior. Some young people are going to go out and set off fireworks. Let's not forget. It was just. Wanted Championship in thirty two years. So it's OK media don't overreact. It's. Graduates. Story of the day is the dodgers won in the Tampa rays that are really dumb thing with analytics but You know I will say this though it was interesting I was talking to an executive, the other day, and the executive showed me some ratings that the dodgers ratings in Los, Angeles on radio or four times higher than the Lakers and I thought to myself. That is strange. It is a Laker town Lebron is a star. Why would that be town put their arms around this team Lebron an ad, the passing the tragic passing of Kobe Bryant I would think this would be a gigantic Audrey Laker year and the dodgers you know I mean they're very very popular. But why would the dodgers ratings before to five times higher on radio than the Lakers and then it hit me last night. Because in Los Angeles, you've had to live with this team. This is there what fourth trip to the world's third trip to the world series in four years you've grown up with Clayton Kershaw and he struggled and you've watched how emotional it is, and that's the great thing about baseball you go to a minor league even the greatest stars fail seventy percent of the times and it's visceral emotional and the city. has embrace this team and has gone through the ups and downs that is not to discount what the Lakers did but hiring Lebron ad as mercenaries to come in swoop to the city. Win a championship doesn't quite feel the same. People in Los Angeles have lived with the dodgers and when you're part of a family, you see your kids cry and you see him get a d. and you see people fail and you see people get fired and you see the disappointment of it. And all that building and building and the dodgers built this team. The right way that is not to say, they don't have money, but they used sparingly and strategically get Mochi bats too often the New York Yankees just go buy a player to solve a problem. The dodgers never did that they built their play their team through the farm system. They found occasional guys like Mac Muncie on the scrapheap and then they would smartly attain mookie betts not because he really solved a problem it's because how in God's Green Earth is the best athlete in the sport available on the market he was they swooped in and took him. Two years ago, Cory seager got hurt and they brought in Manny Machado but they did not sign him long-term. They did not. They developed cody bellinger. They said, we don't need to pay for this. It's not part of our long-term plan. Seger is hurt. It is a short term issue will get much auto for now. Bats was not brought here to solve a problem, you get to the world series you don't have any he was bizarrely available, and because they have developed such a beautiful farm system, they were allowed to give a couple of players up to the red sox who see themselves as rebuilding to a degree and they get monkey bets but the reason the dodgers right now are more popular in Los. Angeles it's not about the politics Oh for God's sakes folks the lowest ratings were hockey. It's not a political sport. It's not about that. It's because you lived through the dodgers pain they were family it's not mercenaries it was about everybody and you watched their failure I mean, let's put it in context losing the world series is not failure for most teams. But when you live through something, it's family. And it feels so much more special last night than hiring superstars who by the way I love Lebron I love eighty, but it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't feel the same buying championships. That's not what the dodgers did. That's not what they did. They did it the right way. And the reason I bring Joel Klatt on now is because it's the right time to teach my young friend about the INS and outs the ebbs and flows the peaks and valleys of college football and Joel. Klatt is now joining us for the record, a former minor league baseball player of some renown who offered out very much a failure in the baseball, but baseball is a sport built on the ability to overcome failure. That is true and it's true and the dodgers ratings in this town are enormous because we have an I say we this city has lived through seeing Kershaw unravel and they love Kershaw I don't disagree with that. I. Think that's why you're ratings are so big. The fans have lived through your failures year after year after year, and it's like you're like family to them. I was going to be your like drunk uncle getting. Report card I absolutely love it by the way I. Didn't really think much about this all weekend but you're near upset of the week was pit. Over Notre leaving off with that listen. Yes. Give you. That was that was rough and by the white pit did exactly what I said they were GonNa do. Run Defense and it didn't work at all. So let's just address that first Notre Dame. Yeah. The week before they had struggled against Louisville. But I Tony Dungy brought something on the broadcast. He said listen they wanted to work on their passing game. It was windier than they thought. Yeah and so in the middle of the Game Against Louisville Notre Dame how to go okay we backtrack we got we can't do it and I thought Dungy brought up a great point. I think Notre Dame to me is probably the fourth or fifth best team in the country I have them number four right now just ahead of Georgia because of low sag gamed. Alabama is. kind of behind just from a talent perspective those teams at the top in we get that I do think when I watch them now, and I went back and I and I watched that game on on game tape one pit was really struggling personnel wise. They got their quarterback was out so on and so forth. Now having said that Notre Dame is really big Bay a key spots you've got safety that's enormous their tight ends or big. They've got big bodies that allow them to do really cool stuff offensively I think the limiting factor right now is probably Ian Book. If. You just have to have him sit there and drop back and throw the football which they're going to have to do at some point. You know they got Clemson next week not this week next week. Is he going to be able to do that and I think the questions remain for Notre Dame on that but this a really good team. Yeah. Really good five in the country certainly. Yeah and I actually think. I actually think they match up. Okay. With clemson parts of them to your point I do think Notre Dame can lean on your little bit. Your and Clemson hasn't faced that kind of physical team this year Uconn they lean on U. Notre Dame can win ugly. They won't be Clemson but there is you can ugly up games and I think Notre Dame is built to do that against clemes. There is an element to Clemson though that there. So veteran, they're so good. I think they're board. Right. I. Think every I think they're bored out of their mind just waiting like like Dr Butler and three hundred you and like they're just like licking their chops for an opponent that can actually test them and they thought they were going to get that. Miami and they walked out there and just Bam just crushed Miami. Something tells me that we're in for a game like that against Notre Dame? Like like Clemson like they can't wait to be tested finally. And I think clemson might roll Notre Dame. But that's that's that's a week. Okay. You Gus Jenny Taff Michigan State at Michigan. So now you and I if I recall are both on the see I've always had this theory about Michigan football it's not Ohio state. It's not Alabama it's not no. There's like five programs in the country and I think actually USC used to be one. They're not any more than not as committed as I thought they were it is Oklahoma it is Alabama. It is Ohio state boy. It gets real after that they're totally committed to football. And then there's about eight teams of which Michigan falls in historically there really good but Ohio state. Is More committed. They'll fire coaches more quickly Brady hoke wouldn't have lasted a four game losing streak and I think harbaugh given that there are a nine and a half when program to attend program and he's right on track and I think he's done a very good job. I'll go a step further. He has done a good job and listen you know he's he's going to draw the line share the criticism because there was so much focus on Jim and and the antics and the pants, and although he changed to blue, which is interesting right? So it's changed things up. Here's one thing to to really understand about Jim Harbaugh. He's just now. Getting, and this adjustment has been a little bit late. If it comes to fruition watch out because. In, college football, you can't win at the top end unless you can score thirty five points against a really good team. You just can't. That's a sport. That's the sport now right and Bama has had to adjust and we've talked about it. Right? Nick Saban has had to just offensively thirty five, forty points in big Games Ryan Day goes to Ohio State. Guess what you have to do against Ohio state. Now, you can't beat them with Don Brown's defense. You can't just out defense them and tough them and win the game. They came close a few years ago remember and they had that overtime game. But then what happened Ryan Day steps foot in Columbus Ohio and guess what happens to that offense goes through the roof. Now, what do you have to do to beat Ohio State? If you're if you're Michigan Score, you've gotta be able to score and they haven't been able to even come close to the offense of efficiency and what I saw last week from Michigan was the was the corner being offensive Joe Milton. Their quarterback is incredibly talented guy. He's he's huge. First of all he's got a quick release. One of the strongest arms that I've seen in college football in the last four five years stronger than Josh Allen or even Herbert. Throws absolute. Lasers can run it pretty well, and here's the other part. They haven't gone pure spread like they tried to do last year was shape Patterson and just run those like soft. Schemes in the run, you know what they did in the run game they went back to what harbaugh does. Well, which was pull guards pull tackles, run power oriented schemes, and it all has to stem from number forty two Ben. Mason, you're all Joe why are you bringing been mason? Let me tell you why because Ben Mason was a guy who was a full back under the old offense last year Gaddis comes into being spread coordinator. So he's got to go defensive tackle. So we played defensive tackle last year and. This year they're like, you know what let's out of the shotgun go back and be a more power power oriented run game. So Ben Mason's back on offense they're lining them up all over the place he had several key blocks on the big runs and they're back to get that downhill. So now all of a sudden you've got the power oriented running game a quarterback that can throw it, and still a defense that I think can can be efficient and certainly rush to quarterback. This may be Jim Harbaugh's Best Michigan team. I'm not saying they'll beat Ohio state. I'm just saying. I'm bullish on Michigan after watching them last night. So I'M GONNA throw theory you well boy. So I was I was listening to very smart guys on that. Show the Prophet Marcus Lemonis. Yeah very smart. Yeah. Camping. World Very smart show and he was talking to CNBC, one of their financial guys and he was talking about how he is watching people change in America. They want nature more because of covid. And Kovic, some of this stuff is going to change how we act in America. This is not a temporary thing much of this will stay, and even if vaccines come out, he said we are seeing over the last with all the stress and the ability to work remotely in. Virtually okay. and. This is my point. If cove is going to be here for a couple years. The. NBA. Hockey baseball and the NFL have shown an ability because billionaire owners. To handle it, mean God. Until last night, we didn't have a baseball player have Kovin for months right NBA never had one NHL didn't have one but on a college level, it's different you even at Ohio state, you do not have seven million dollars a year for covid. What am I getting to? If, Marcus, La-, Mona's right and many of the business leaders in America say get used to it. This is going to be around till twenty, twenty, three, twenty, twenty, four at some level. It Makes College sports less attractive Ryan Day Lincoln Riley. Do you want to go through this year. Do you want it? I thought I was watching it this weekend and I said. You know it's weird how a world changes in I'm going to be at this job forever, and then you wake up one morning ago. This is not really the world I want. COVID is so difficult for even big financial institutions that Lincoln, Riley and Ryan Day say. I go to the NFL I could see that I think the Ohio state and Oklahoma could have their coaches cherry-picked in the next three months. I will tell you this for guys that that got into this profession because they love the sport I love to develop players they love the locker room they love the team aspect football, they love football. Every coach that I talked to now throughout the country as told me that they're spending maybe ten percent of their time on football. Now, that's not to say bad, but covert is taking A. Huge chunk of their time. Then they're also worried about the mental health of their players, the the social justice aspect. Years. Old In our country with their players and the coaches are saying listen it's just different right? It's not it's not better. It's not worse. It's just different. So if you did get into this based on the expectation that you wanted to be a football coach and develop football players and build football character. College is different. Now now, I'm not suggesting that these guys. Will or should leave I am agreeing that it is different and there is going to be a dynamic shift in how college coaches are going to have to handle their organizations versus what a head football coach in the National Football League would have to change. Now you bring those guys up. Here's why I think that that's so interesting if you're the New York jets and you're trying to woo Trevor Lawrence out of college football i. Come on. Let's go like don't stick around in college right? You don't flex your muscle in terms of your leverage come to the jets wouldn't one of those guys be attracted you I think an Trevor Lawrence said yesterday I'm not sure if GONNA go to the NFL it's like sure would be hard to turn it down. If I got Lincoln Riley I would say though like that comments going to get a lot of run today and Fans out there just give it its proper context because he was asked a question about the future and he gave an answer that that an athlete should give, which is hail worry about that at a later date. He didn't say I'm willing to go back to Clemson, try he basically gave a big vague answer which mature adults are going to do when ask a specific question about their future and that's why I didn't lead with it today. Good good job good job by the way I think the jets might be a better location than people realize boy why say Oh, boy let me say it's better than the bengals. It's better than Joe Borough was going to with the Bengals I. Think Joe Burrows Made Cincinnati way more attract really with one win interesting take let me tell you why the jets are better than Cincinnati Bengals as a destination for Trevor Lawrence versus what Joe Borough had to deal with with the bengals all right is because the bengals hadn't one shoot anything in boroughs whole life have they won a playoff game in his lifetime probably wasn't alive in late eighties was he? No No. These kids are now wasn't alive until I came to Fox there. There you go. Came came to the West Coast. So. All I'm saying is that was the same ownership group. They are historically cheap the bengals art like that organization had Ha- has had the same problems at nagging them forever whereas the jets I don't think Joe Douglas fits that mold Joe Douglas they're. Won? Three. superbowls. Yeah. They've got a ton of picks. Yeah. If they deal Darnold, they're GONNA get I why will they get a first jewel? Here's why they'll get a I is because you've got really good organizations with aging quarterbacks at the back end of the first round that would love to have Sam Darnold love to have Sam. darnold. Code happens if the IF THE COLTS WANNA move off the steelers are going to back soon, the Patriots are in that boat the New Orleans saints are in that boat. The Falcons may be in that boat and they're not even in the back into the first round. But if they deal, Matt, Ryan may be darnold as a ticket. They're all I'm saying is that I think that the jets have ammunition, they have the GM they they've got a great left tackle that they just drafted and and couldn't Williams, despite the trade rumors is a very good young emerging defensive line I just think this narrative the jets are terrible this year and we understand that what they have. They have the most money under the cap this off season so I I'm just saying like this narrative that Lawrence is going. To somehow force his way out of New York I think is overblown I. Think it's media driven I think Lawrence might look at the jets and say that's actually an attractive spot finally to is debut you watch them a lot of Alabama. I like I thought he was the best prospect I could be wrong. I do think his injuries bring him down as a prospect I don't worry too much about size i. think he's got some breeze. He's accurate. He's got an leadership qualities. He's a smart kid. I think he succeeds in Miami will what will concern you over the next month with two as start if you see something I would say just physical ailments you know like if he can stay healthy I think this'll be quality time for him to go develop by all and I've talked with some people he's been doing great and practice great and Bracco you've got that source yes and the other part of this is this is kind of a no lose for the dolphins. Let me tell you why you know where they're at. They're rebuilding a one hundred percent. Yeah. It doesn't really pay dividends for them to go to the play offs with Fitzpatrick. It just doesn't right because then there's still like, okay. Well, when are we moving on right whereas if it comes in and goes to the playoff, you throw it huge parade near like we did it. We've found him. If you don't, it's still find because he's coming off of injury. He's learning. We're developing. We're still building the this is kind of a no lose. At first I was like, why did they make this decision but when you really look at it, this is a no lose for the dolphins. It really is because if if it doesn't go well, he's developing. If it goes great, we can throw a party and you don't have to deal with the question bleeding into the off season fitzpatrick were take you to the playoffs. I'm not even GONNA. Ask for a near upset I on the bench this I know no near upset this week Michigan beat Michigan will beat the parties, the Spartans Sparty me maybe and that gave may be closer than the experts thing. 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So the question becomes this to me feels like a big this is a fascinating game like the raiders here I think we've undervalued them because of last week Tampa Kovic stuff we don't know what they were going through internally were. overvaluing over evaluating Cleveland a team that two weeks ago could not compete against Pittsburgh? Yeah. Their teams we really don't know what they are I. I liked the raiders getting a field goal here. This is a this is a gay right now they're feeling themselves in Cleveland they beat Cincinnati they struggled to beat the bengals. If I told you, there's a team in the NFL? They needed great play in the fourth to beat Cincinnati the week before they were humiliated by Pittsburgh. Does that sound like a great team that's Cleveland. And now you've got a raiders team that. The covid situation we just think now they're bad. They beat Kansas City a couple of weeks ago as the blazing. I think the raiders a very interesting week. I think I always look into blazing five. Who Will we undervaluing today like right now we're overvaluing the niners because they look on the world's best football team against the Rams and New England but they were much more desperate against the rams in New England mass and they have a lot more injury and Seattle had bad fourth quarter against Arizona. So a lot of people are. Selling Seattle stock and it's like no Seattle's back home they're probably going to be. There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff we see were overvaluing certain teams in the League. I. THINK WE'RE A little overvaluing Cleveland morning and I picked him as a playoff team and I think we're undervaluing a little Seattle because of that bad fourth quarter they were actually controlling Arizona for three and a half hours joy with the news. The news this is the third line news sponsored by Mercedes bets the best or nothing to. With time Oh so exciting. Very exciting dolphins that their first real look at to this weekend. When he gets his first start Ryan Fitzpatrick did not hide his disappointment when he got benched for the rookie but Brian Flora's believes the culture of the team is built to handle the change. I think the guys rally around each other I think they support one another. Team effort. Again it won't be just to vote in the to have to do as part as far as. Communication getting US lined up. You know making good decisions were asking of Him we would asking one. The dolphins trending in the right direction. And they've kind of always been well at least for the last ten years or so this is kind of like middle the road team nor really trust them. They're not bad. They're not exactly what we don't trust them but they're not they're always they always have good players right? Well, I wanted to take a look at what I've already lived through, but just put it in perspective of what what the dolphins have gone through at the quarterback position. It's pretty dramatic. They've had twenty one different starting quarterbacks start at least one game since two thousand. The most starts in that span was Ryan Tannehill with eight twenty one since the year two thousand. Merino, went one, forty, seven, ninety, three in seventeen seasons with the dolphins when eight and ten in the playoffs he made the playoffs ten of his seventeen seasons. The dolphins are one, fifty, two, hundred, seventy, four since he laughs and in one or four one and four the playoffs they've not had a franchise quarterback since Dan Marino, left the dolphins. That's why they are putting so much stock into as they should absolutely not about. Not, about winning this weekend and he by the way you're only I think only a four point, Doug, this is actually a perfect spot because the rams off a huge impressive Monday night performance have to fly three thousand miles to the dolphins off of by this may be another blazing five picks her interesting. I I I completely agree with Joel I did not think it was a shocking time to move fitzpatrick. Waiting to. When they were going to do and I always guessing. We kept waiting. We kept guessing what week it was going to happen like we were like I was like week nine week in the NFL move the buyout. So at the the league kind of Forced Miami's hand they were GonNa do it at the bye week clearly, they just moved by wake up why not give him an extra week to prepare with the number one always knew that they were going to move off Fitzpatrick. Patrick said, he knew until that move with actually made. Surprise winning getting to the playoffs. Or winning a meaningless playoff game is not going to help the development of the dolphins unless to the quarterback everything shoulder said is correct. Winning organizations. I haven't had the privilege of being born and raised in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and watching the steelers my entire life know what a winning organization does the standard the Super Bowl not making the playoffs that's not what that's not what a winning organizations do. That's not success if you're building than yes. That's a successful season. This year with two. When getting to the playoffs Fitzpatrick does nothing for the development of the dolphins it's mediocrity and I'm not interested in it. Tom Brady's decision to leave New England for Tampa Bay has been working out very well for him. He is clearly winning up divorce right now and Peter King thinks he should have seen the move coming after Brady's last game with the Patriots. He spoke with Brady right after the loss and says, looking back he sees that bracing meaner wasn't just because of the game's outcome. Tom Brady was I would call him discount that day. One thing that I can help with big visit he knew for quarterback New England was hopeless. You tell me if there is one off offensive player on that team that causes a defensive coordinator to game plan against him there is not one. Cam Yeah I'm Peter. Settlers show the other day there's no weapon on the offensive side of the ball. That right and Cam was not there obviously because Brady. Was the quarterback. So the only the only player when Brady was there that the the the NATO plan for was Brady, and in this case it's Kim. There's no offensive weapons that make defensive coordinators nervous and Brady knew that so. Him leaving makes perfect sense. Why do you want to injure career careers? That situation? Why when you were input is given as a not taken and your Tom Brady this was this was like a fork in the road that we all saw coming. I I'm not. I'm not married to Romance Right, Oh God meter like the things that way. Wonderful. I. Love story it's fantastic. The ending it's great. Then there's like reality where. All, the time and sometimes you spend some time apart and then you come back together and then like you work some things out and makes exceptions, you just decide to work it out right or you just divorce and that's fine too. Because at the end of the day you guys both have journeys you have to go through in life and that's really what happened with the. Tom Brady like, yes. Would have been romantic for him to end his career there as the greatest player of all time short. But it's also a spinoff story that he wants to Tampa Bay and could very well what a super bowl this year. I also are available Zacharias his contract with the Eagles up after the twenty, twenty one season, and there has not been much progress on an extension but there is some interest from other teams packers. The Eagles reportedly got calls in the packers and the Ravens. He'd be a great fit for Green Bay about tight end. Yes. Were made but hurt his ankle and had to be placed on injured reserve instead I don't think Philadelphia Shut my question is. Philadelphia I still things going to win that division because I'm not sure if I'd do that. Well, the trade deadline is Tuesday. November third. Third. Four PM Eastern urges. Active. Maybe a trained in the White House to. Arts isn't as eighth season and turn thirty in November he has twenty four receptions on seventy eight yards and one touchdown Dallas. Goddard's rookie deal is also after the twenty twenty, one season, he's only played in three years. So there, the Philadelphia also hurt his ankle. Philadelphia. Same. We can't pay for both. Let's move on. Yes and. It's time for us to get paid. So yes, this would have been trade. You make four obviously he got injured, but it'll be available to make and how long injury after be let's be honest about New England after Aaron Rodgers and a couple of their linebackers coach not paying anybody we're not Jones big money at. Are they not paying Davante Adams big money you you couldn't afford to pay. Zach hurts. I mean, they're not again. I it's. It's not like Seattle where you're gonNA pay Jamal Bobby. Wagner, you're paying dunlap you play whose Green Bay Pan Aaron Rodgers deserves the money and the linebackers both came over made good money not not outrageous money and the free agency a year ago like go pay Zach Hurts Zagreb's deserves to be paid and he's still he's still produce at a high level obviously when. Healthy volume tight end hearing needs another weapon. He's made it clear. He wants to stay in Philadelphia but again, this is clearly not how it's GonNa work out. 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But now for the first time, you're going to hear what really happened. Here from the people who lived it? Listen and follow fight night on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts more wherever you listen to podcasts. Great to you and there's a story out today Trevor Laurence says, he may come back to school I listened to the tape. He doesn't really say that he does intimate he doesn't have an answer yet he will go pro and he will end up I imagine with the New York jets I do think it's interesting though that he does not need the New York jets and let me just say this actors the world changes no longer need to go on Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert it's called Social Media Kim Kardashian told David Letterman I have one hundred and thirty seven, million instagram followers why would go in a late night show? The quarterbacks in the NFL mahomes, Baker Mayfield Aaron Rodgers on the most commercials play in Green Bay Kansas. City. In Cleveland you don't need New York for stardom in two thousand twenty. What about the Yankees? That's not a New York thing if it was, you'd have to go to the mets. That's a great bran thing with the Yankees the NFL didn't have Los Angeles for over two decades and grew substantially. Wall. Street used to be where the rich hats hung out. They made movies about it. Now, Silicon Valley could buy and sell Wall Street and has major influence. New York's a great city and I love it. There's nothing like it in terms of energy and fun when it's not freezing. But you don't need New York as an athlete Trevor. Lawrence has the leverage not a city. Brock yards, my friend, he's been working at Fox sports. Now for a little over a year, we put them on NFL Games now, which is unbelievable. One of the smartest guys that does football analysis work for any network. He's now ours and we love that brought cure NFL player for six years joining me. Back, up to peyton manning the colts which I don't think I've ever said that I think I knew that but I just saw the piece of paper. So let let me ask you this you as a former Seattle guy. We're both Seattle guys I've been saying this that Russell Wilson feels like a life preserver. Sometimes on a sinking roster they got him Carlos Dunlap this morning. I think that's big. I like Pete Carroll I like the GM John Snyder but I watched Monday and I, say to myself it's to Russell. Wilson centric is that what as a former NFL quarterback? Do you see some of that? When you say that Colin because the seahawks are dead last on defense I'll say that again, the seahawks are dead last and giving up over fifty yards more than the second worst defense in the league. That I've called twice and that is the Atlanta Falcons. So you can have a middle of the pack defense but you also need a defense at least they're giving them takeaways call and that is one thing they are doing. They are giving him some extra possessions of, but that Defense did not hit Sakala me one time. They did not hit cuyler Murray one time on Sunday night that can't happen and this is a defense. Let's remember that P Carol continues to have invested in drafts capital Jamal Adams future first round picks like this is a group defensively that they have committed to that should not be this bat. So yes, there is too much on Russ if he's gotta throw it forty or fifty times and the people love it because he's cooking all over the place but you're not GonNa win a world championship. He'll have the biggest numbers however had you may have the most individual. Gory but to win a title to win that division, they have to be more balanced as a football team. There's a rumor out today Zach Ertz too the packers potentially they've made calls. We've heard rumors about Amari cooper to the Green Bay packers. What I think sometimes fans forget you can bring certain players on like a corner and they can pick up a system very quickly but quarterbacks, there's a reason in the summer they invite their receivers and tight ends out to their town because it's all about timing. How long would it take Aaron Rodgers and a Veterans Zach? Cooper that you literally think that Aaron would throw them open would trust them could could could no they would be in the spot like I think fan sometimes think Oh. So you throw the football around quarterback receiver that is a relationship. How long does it take to build? In the further that point I think a little bit Colin. You're not going to Clemson, where you've got like four place, right then you run to formations in your uptempo you're going in Green Bay probably the most complex offense in the NFL. To probably the most demanding quarterback when it comes to that precision in timing you're talking about. What they have done, I had them twice earlier this year and the amount of time they spent this off season Colin trying to eliminate vowels in their call. So, they can make that call in enough time from head coached quarterback in the huddle and still get to the line scrimmage and do all their check with me. So it is a very complex system to now I will say this, you're not going to be the. Savior. Going there to be the one Davante Adams is the one. So you're going there to be the to or for. You're going there to really complicate compliment Mercedes Lewis the tight end. So you're not going they're having to just be the one to hit number four in the lineup. You're going there to hit five or six in the lineup, and also if they make that move I think Aaron Rodgers be a little bit more patients than he would be with some of the young players they've tried to develop. That Allen lazard injury was a big one because he was coming Aaron was really liking them. He was confident that he could be there too. So I think it would be a challenge. It'd be very difficult to any young player that does not have a depth of football background but in Mario Cooper Zach Ertz have played in systems played multiple systems they could do it but I guarantee you that quarterback will be pretty demanding of exactly where they need to be six years in the NFL, he's calling NFL games for US called the Falcons Lions last week. We know the teams that need a quarterback and we know the teams that have a great quarterback. Atlanta's fascinating. You Start Looking at Matt Ryan he's older I do believe is the game changes you can't move them around much in the pocket. He's good enough for some I don't know if the new coach GM in Atlanta and you just watched his game is Matt Ryan somebody a new coach should say all right I'll take four years of Matt Ryan or is it time to draft the Justin fields develop for a year and move on what do you see? Four years that's not going to happen. Now, two years is a different conversation and Colin his finances of his contract are going to make it very difficult on whoever that next GM our head coach is to say trade them move them cut on that's going to be financially. So irresponsible. So more than likely, you're going to have him for two years and I think two years the right system with with the right supporting cast. They've done some good things on offense but I mentioned to you earlier they were the second worst defense only to the sea hawks. Can't rush the passer not taking the ball away some some challenges on that side. So you're going to have Matt Ryan whoever that GM or head coach in my opinion you're GonNa have that Ryan for the next couple of years because that contract is just so financially difficult to move. If you wanted to move off of him, do you think there's a market for cam? Newton I did after the Seattle game then I came to terms with own weight everybody scores on Seattle and then I looked this morning and I'm like if I get to more bad showings and it's not all camps faults the slowest receiving corn the leak I wonder what the market is for Cam would what say you Yeah. It depends calling on what kind of tape he continues to put forward throwing the football what they did. The first couple of weeks was awesome. The League really seen it didn't make many adjustments to it. He's running all over Miami is running all over Seattle but we know that's not sustainable especially a player at his age in his tear on those tires. So it's can you throw the ball effectively enough the last couple of weeks that's been a definitive no, that's coming up no practice time that's coming up. As you said, a beat up receiver crew edelman is just band AIDS right now. So it's going to be challenge in challenging environment for him but to me call him. 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Yeah, I Said It: Ben Roethlisberger is not the best quarterback in the AFC North.

Behind the Steel Curtain

37:09 min | 1 year ago

Yeah, I Said It: Ben Roethlisberger is not the best quarterback in the AFC North.

"Welcome back listeners to another episode of year. I said it one apologize for a bit of the technical issues that started the program This is the first time that I have used a our platform by myself, so I want to apologize for that. Hopefully you guys see me in. You are following the podcast and you can see everything that's going on. I'M GONNA. Take a look here, I. Think I am good to go because I see myself here and I think that I am live in i. am going so hopefully I am indeed going live and I've started everything and hopefully. Hopefully you see the podcast, if everything's fine everything is successful, you know, give me a thumbs up. Let me know that you're listening to the show I see Brad Jewett so I'm GonNa assume that everything was set up and started properly. captain underpants is already disagreeing with me, so I'm good to go. Thank you and I. WanNa give a big shot out to the Oracle. The editor of behind still dot com day Scofield. Thank you for helping me. Set everything up when I give a big shout out to big BRO SCO and also my co host on several shows. WHO's bad. Anthony Davis make sure you check out the first shall we did together as a tandem on the standard is the standard make sure you check out? Tony Death Yell Show tomorrow, and also again a big shot out to big BRO SCO and big shot to everybody contributes on the website and all the outstanding writers. It is the one stop shop for all your Pittsburgh steelers content before I jump into the program however. Again the title of the program is yet I, said it. Big Ben is not the best quarterback in the AFC north I'm GonNa give you empirical reasons and I'm going to give you non imperial reasons so as new`miracle, objective and subjective numerical nonoo miracle. Both perspectives as to why big been is not the best quarterback in the AFC north and I'm also going to break down. What I think are the best quarterback rooms in the division now. Don Of course says I'm a hater at its finest before I jump into that there's been some big NFL news. Coaches are allowed to return to the facilities. Sure you guys have seen on multiple outlets. Mike Tomlin returned to the facility I believe it was today earlier today if you're in the east coast and coaches are now according to the NFL or allowed to come back. To the facility, so we see that the NFL is slowly, but surely dipping its toe into returning things to normal, I think as we get a progression and covert nineteen as we learn more I think the NFL is probably doing the proper way. They aren't too slowly, but surely stepping toe back in not making any commitments one way or another me as a podcast hosted as a pundit I get to. Make some assumptions whether there'll be fans in the stands. I could be wrong. I'm on record though I don't think there's going to be fans in the stands. If there are fans in the stands next year I think it'd be towards the back half of the year probably at from week eight or game on for in the late in the fall when there is possibly a vaccine now I know. People have their issues with vaccinations in their effectiveness, but I think the NFL is going to be conservative. It's approach in bring fans back as to not try to manage the public health issue involved with having that many people into our building to watch a football game but I think it's a positive step that coaches are back. And of course we also talked about earlier in the week on the standard or standard with Brian Anthony Davis. We talked about how there's not GonNa be training camp in Latrobe at Saint Vincent College Training. Camp will be on site, so we're getting closer to it. There's definitely going to be football in the fall. The only question I think remaining is will there be fans in the stands. I think the other big question that I wanted to briefly discuss before I jump into my question of the topic of the show of Yeah I, said big. Ben Is not the best quarterback in the AFC north or too quickly talk about. The fallout to drew. BREES is comments. And let me just say this here. Based on the size of your platform. If you say something that is deemed largely uneducated. Unaware. And largely off color or off base, the clapback that you're going to get is going to match. The size of your platform, so the clapback will reflect the size of the person's platform. To give you an example if I say something ignorant on this show. You guys are GonNa clapback on me right, but right now in the live chat, we have less than two hundred and fifty people, so my clapback will be two fifty. Somebody like drew brees with the platform that drew brees has. The clapback is going to be amidst. And when Lebron James Clapper backs does a clap back on you. That will give free license for every athlete to clap on drew brees drew. BREES will be okay. Did what he should have done. He gave me a COPA. It's going to be interesting. The impact of his statement in their locker room, but the one thing I think you also illustrates is. Because you give your money to a cause that does not mean you understand the causse money is just money, and it's great to give money, and it's great to be philanthropic, but that doesn't mean you understand. The complexities and the totality of the issues. That you're giving the money to so I just WANNA switch reels and jump away from that and jumping through the top of the programming. It's funny I'm looking at Andrews comet. and. That's kind of one of the reasons why I wanted to do this show. Is because. As, were said Lamar is two point Oh. Right. and. This is why I wanted to do this but let me before I jump into that. Let me let me let me let me let me address steelers thirty three's comment, he said. Come on man. There is a difference between being a racist and wanting to respect the flag in veterans. He is saying that it is not the platform for that type of thing. They aren't being disrespectful to the flag either in that's the issue. And drew. BREES does not get to define what the platform is. And so that's why people clapback did a clapback on drew brees because he was ignorant. To what it meant. And what the kneeling Mitt in clearly, the issue is huge if you've not been aware and if looked at what's been going on and. Around the country and I. Don't think there are players. Threatening drew brees. There are consequences to your actions. I mean that's what this is about and if you're a big boy, a grown man, you stand on what you say and there's there's consequences to what you say so. You know. This is a sensitive issue, but clearly drew brees was not aware as to what the issue was the kneel down by capper. Nick and others was to. Bring light in aluminum, the issues of police brutality against people that look like me so with that being said, let me switch real. Let me jump into. My empirical breakdown. And my comparison between Ben Rothlisberger. Lamar Jackson and I WANNA give a big shoutout to the Oracle Dave. Go Fill. We kinda worked on this yesterday and came up with several metrics that we're going to use to define and first establish. What we think. Is Ben Rothlisberger? Best seizing. The metrics are follows quarterback rating. Average yards gained adjust adjusted yards per pass attempt. Interception percentage. TD percentage. And adjusted net yards per pass him. I, think the description of those are pretty self explanatory, but adjusted yard gain pass a tip yard prepares. Attempt is often used as a metric to. Excuse, me predict games. An predict the impact of the quarterback play in game, so if you have if you have a quarterback with a high yards per attempt. More than likely. You'RE GONNA. Win The football game, because let's say if you're yards per attempt is maybe about fifteen or fifteen is extremely high. Let's say it's close to ten. Whereas another teams, it's low like around three and a half. Say Four or five. You're thinking in Dunkin in comparison to a team. That's making big impacts in the past game. So that's so that's that's the difference there In terms of quarterback rating we on a quarterback rating is right. We all know what quarterback ratings are, and let me jump it to Donald Knowle's point. Selective stats to improve your argument sounds like professional sports analysts when that's what I am professional sports analyst. I hope that's why you guys tune into the program and it's not selective. We are immune. Dave picked what we thought were the most The best set of stats to measure performance. And most people think rating is important. Yard game for a tent and it's adjusted interception percentage. The percentage of times were intercepted when attempting a pass. We all agree about the impact of overs. How turnovers impact a game, me and Jeff doing shows together. We talked at nauseam about the impact of Ben Rothlisberger turning over the football in the red zone, a couple of years ago in twenty eighteen season at about how much that impacted the steelers, season and wins and losses, so the other staff is td percentage. That's the percentage of TD's thrown when attempting to pass. So what do you want I mean? If you attempt, you want a high number of percents of passes to lead into touchdowns, we know the importance of scoring, and we know the importance of touchdowns in the impact of scoring one games, so that's an important step. And last, but not least the adjusted net yards per pass attempt. So. We felt that these five things were the most important stats now. I was to just take rating or Qbr but Dave convinced me to add more metrics to try to give a more well rounded statistical perspective. Of A quarterback indices now with all of those metrics. Rating Adjusted Yard game per pass, attempt, interception, percentage, TD, percentage, and adjusted net yards per pass attempt so those five different things. David I came up. And we concluded. That Ben Rothlisberger. Best. Season was twenty fourteen. And the reason, we came to the conclusion that Ben Rothlisberger. Best Season was twenty fourteen because in rating. Adjusted Yard gain per pass attempt interception percentage, td percentage in adjusted net yards per pass attempt to twenty fourteen seasons showed up in four of those five stats, the only stat where the twenty fourteen season did not show up. was Td percentage so because that stat showed up in all five of those. We deem that to be Ben. Rothlisberger best statistical season. And this is where the empirical comparison comes into play between Big Ben Lamar Jackson is I wanted to take what I thought. What David I thought was Ben Rothlisberger Best Season and compare it to Lamar Jackson VP season now I'm gonNA at one more metric to this when doing the comparison just to illustrate just how good a season Lamar Jackson hat, and and why it is overwhelmingly the case while Lamar, Jackson is the best quarterback in division. It's not even close at this point. Now in terms of TD passes in that year. Been Rothlisberger in twenty fourteen through thirty two touchdown passes to Lamar Jackson, six so Lamar Jackson had a edge in touchdown passes now when you look at. The difference between a temp. Between Big Ben and twenty fourteen in the March Accident Twenty nineteen. That's where you see the big discrepancy in td percentage. Then Rob Burger in what we've deemed his best year through the ball, six hundred and eight times to Lamar Jackson four hundred one. He threw it two hundred and seven more times, and produced four or fewer touchdown passes. So the TD percentage between big, Ben and Lamar Jackson in Lamar's MVP season and what we're considering Big Ben's best season is five point three two nine. Now in terms of interceptions interception percentage in that year. Of big bands best year, two, thousand fourteen, he threw nine interceptions, which is incredible, given the attempts, so as interception percentage was one point five Lamar threw six interceptions. His interception percentage was one point five. So they're even there. You can surmise that if Lamar threw the ball another two hundred times. His interceptions would go up, but. They're both at one point. Now when you look at adjusted gained excuse me adjusted yards game per pass. Attempt Lamar Jackson has the advantage. Eight point nine two eight point five. You look at quarterback rating. Lamar accents quarterback rating. Last year was one thirteen been office burger in two thousand fourteen. It was one oh, three point three. And let me scroll down here and took a look at a couple. More numbers here and I think the last number that I wanNA point out is. and that's adjusted net yards per pass attempt. Lamar was eight point one nine to Ben. Rothlisberger burgers seven point eight two, so when you look across the five metrics. UFC Two forty nine was exciting, but that was just the primer. This Saturday UFC two fifty is starting off the June sports calendar with a bang and draftkings the leader in one day. Fantasy sports is putting you in the center of the action with a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. If you haven't tried it yet, fantasy is easy to play. Just picks expires stay under the salary cap and pile up. Points for advances take downs and more. There's no better way to put your knowledge to the test than. 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Lamar Jackson is the best quarterback. Clearly in division now I asked my brother, and this is going to be in a non empirical stuff I'll throw that in there, because I asked my brother a question and I. Ask you guys. The question in the live chat, and of course the in is small for Lamar, but we're not comparing careers. We're comparing the now. We're comparing twenty twenty because what you did. Seven years ago has no bearing. Especially when you talk about injury, but I'm opposed this question the live chat. What quarterback currently starting in the National Football League. Would you take over Lamar Jackson? Let me give you a couple more stats when it comes to Lamar Jackson over his first sixteen career starts. He has more wins than Patrick mahomes thirteen twelve. He's had more rushing yards than Ladainian Tomlinson one, thousand, two, hundred and fifty, eight to one, thousand, two, hundred, thirty, six, his passer rating of ninety four point four is hired in Tom Brady's. Ninety point one his yards per cent of seven point six is better than air rogers and his completion percentage of sixty three percent is better than drew breezes sixty one percent. One on trying to say. And, I hope it's very clear is. Lamar Jackson is a hell of a football player and the one thing I'm not going to do is I'm not GonNa hate on the dude because a dude is a good player. I'm not GONNA do that. He's a unbelievable on Real player. Let me give you a couple more stats. Ns will this will? Conclude my empirical analysis in my look at it. Most passing TD's from the pocket and Twenty Nineteen Lamar Jackson twenty-five drew brees twenty four. James Winston Twenty. Three, Dak Prescott twenty two, so that also tells you right there. He is making plays from the packet now from the non imperial side. I asked the question. What quarterbacks. Would you take? Over Lamar Jackson so Donald, no one asks so. The running game had no impact on Lamar's game or stotts. The running game has an impact on every quarterback stats. I don't know what that says. That, that's that's. That's a point. That makes no point so what? Now I mean that makes that makes no point. Right so I don't know what the point is I. Don't know why steeler fans Bristle so much when you say that a player is better than another steeler player. And if you're looking at not empirical evidence, I asked. You guys to question. What quarterbacks would you take over Lamar Accident Right now? I asked that question to my brother. I only came up with two quarterbacks currently that I would take over Lamar Jackson maybe three. That's Patrick Mahomes. Russell Wilson. Aaron Rodgers My brother went back and forth like graduates Jewett sit with the Shawn Watson. But Lamar's devastating. So I didn't go, but my brother Addict Carson Wentz. And that's why I put these stats here because I wanted to do the empirical analysis because of Sergeant vs comic total run depending. QB, when you have close to four or five is a perfect passer rating games. You're not solely dependent on the run. In the other non empirical thing in terms of how many quarterbacks would you start over? Lamar Jackson the ironic thing in the live chat. None of you guys said big, Fan. It makes no sense for you to think you would start big being overlooked the MVP from a guy that's coming off of injury and has played in a year. That's not empirical. That's just common sense. And, also right now. None of you guys said Big Ben in the live Chat Lamar. Jackson is the reigning MVP. He's younger than Joe Barrow. So the sky is the limit wit, Lamar, Jackson! Did you guys see the growth between year one and year two so right now it is clear as day. The Best quarterback in the AFC north is Lamar. Jackson it is not close. Because we do not know as a fan base. What big been is and what? He will be going back next year so that uncertainty alone cool. Gives the edge. To the reigning MVP Lamar Jackson clearly, there's there's no question I mean Lamar did some stuff last year that I've never seen and I'm older than most of you guys. It was like watching Randall Cunningham on steroids. The kid can play. The steelers gave him a well of time in their matchup in Heinz field, but the KEA can play. The young man can play football. He is the best player in the AFC north. By far he is by far the best quarterback in the AFC north. Now I want to shift that in terms of quarterback rooms and I think I'm GonNa Pitch. You guys off the even more when it comes to quarterback rooms. And what I think is the best. The team has set up best in terms of their quarterback room and their depth. So let me jump into look. To Nolan's land so wrong, but he just keeps repeating it, so we're at an impasse. Lamar was at best, but we know how vic ended up, but it doesn't matter where vic up. It's about next year. It's about next year. I mean you got I look I'm not a home, but I come from Pittsburgh so I. Actually am a Homer, but I'm a realist. Look at I don't feel it's not to been. For guys to say. That somebody else's better and thank you. Breath hopping onto the program. But like Mark Tolan said it's fair. It is true. Lamar Jackson's better. He's better right now, but let me get into the quarterback rooms and I think I may cause some controversy as well when I look at the quarterback rooms. The best quarterback room clearly is the ravens. What Lamar Accident Rg three when you look at the backups in the division, the only other backup I think that's better than Rg. Three would be case keenum who's been gotta give a shout out to Brian after the Davis. Excuse me and give a shout out to him. And his boy case keenum when you look at the steelers backup I think rg three. In case, keenum are better to Mason Rudolph. In inductees. I mean you had Mason Duck? I mean come on man. So I think rg three. In case, keenum are better mason in duck. When you look at Cincinnati Cincinnati quarterback rummages terrible borough Ryan Finley. Angles, excuse me I would not call them that other name. It's the bungles. So that that so? WHO's the best quarterback room? Clearly the Ravens number two in my opinion. Is the. CLEVELAND BROWNS! And I know you guys are GonNa, go apoplectic, because I'm saying that Cleveland has the second best quarterback room. And that's largely because of the certainty. Around been RAF was burgers injury if Ben Rothlisberger had played last year. We're coming back healthy this year. I would clearly put the steelers at number two in terms of quarterback world. But Mayfield an keenum are right now. Better Than Ben Mason in duck because Mason duck aren't really good players. I know that may feel the difference between Mayfield in Ben isn't big enough to where if you had to come back and play Rudolph in Duck, and you had to replace keenum I have more confidence that keenum was going to play more consistent football in both Mason, and duck if Ben were healthy clearly. The steelers would have the second best quarterback room, but we've been not being healthy. I have to put them at three, and of course, the bungles or four, the bundles are just bad. The bungles are bad. They're going to get back. quarterback play the whole year and I, think the bungles are going to be really bad this season because of quarterback play because of issues with covert and trying to get rookies preparedness Ho on, and so forth I I think is going to be I think the bungles are just going to be terrible, and in fact, if there's no fans in the stands, and there's no home field advantage for bad teams. Bad teams are going to get molly walk next year and so if you're a bad team You know you're going to get molly wop, so let me jump back into a comment from Donald I love Donald. Thanks for Chiming in Donald, says all the stats for Lamar are going off of last year where he didn't take teams past the first year round play regardless of his MVP. He didn't finish the job. Bid has twice now. Where's your stats for that? will that was ten years ago about eleven years ago, so ben hasn't finished a job for eleven years and what you did eleven years. Does it make? Does it mean a hill of beans or what you're GONNA do next year I'm GonNa say the data points. That's more close to the this year last year lake. It doesn't make any like. I mean I. Know You guys are emotional about your favorites. I get it. I understand sodas or four, but the guy is coming back. Off a bad season, and yes, Ryan Co Brian Neither does last year, but guess what. It's more predictive based on last year than what you did ten years ago. Riddle me that. I mean really that so deal with it jumped in, said Lance. But you're using analogies assuming bins hurt or coming back unknown yet. What was your very own prediction for our season? Prediction for our season is based on a prediction that he will come back healthy so to your point deal with the IMF been comes back healthy. Lamar is still better than being. There? You have it, he he he's. He's still better than being. Lamar's a better player than Ben Rothlisberger even with Ben Rothlisberger healthy that was the point of comparing Lamar season two big Ben's best season of which me and the Oracle Dave Scofield thought was the best season again based on rating adjusted yard, gain passive, interception percentage, td prescription ed adjusted net yards per pass attempt. That Ben's best season still statistically did not match up to Lamar's MVP SEASON It's okay to not be. The Best Guy and I'm sure you guys will throw it in my face of Lamar doesn't play better than Big Ben, and as a fan of the steelers hope martyrs and play better than big man because if he does, that may mean that the steelers will struggle and have a hard time making the super bowl. You know so. Clearly. I don't think there's an argument. I don't think there's a question I think if you would go across every fish wrap sports site everywhere. Lamar Jackson. Is the best quarterback in the AFC north. The only quarterback really in my mind that I would take over Lamar. Jackson, because of Lamar's age is Patrick Mahomes. Other than that I'm fine. I mean I'm fine and I think. Because it's Lamar. And I think because he runs and what it looks like. And because he's a raven I think steeler fans have a hard time saying. Yeah, you're right, but I am right. I am right. The Mars better. And the Mars better and early big bid. Two Thousand Lamar is better than almost every Ben Rothlisberger year. That's what I am trying to tell you guys and urging you guys to take a look at Lamar Jackson slash here. It's better. It's just better. Let me jump into Gina to Chiel statement. Hopefully I pronounced that right. Lamar's definitely better right now, but I still think the steelers as a whole beat the ravens this year with bid. That's all I'm saying. Thank you for saying that it took it took a beautiful young lady to be the voice of reason in the live chat. Thank Eugenia. That's all I'm saying 'cause when you speak out against Big Ben, it's like speaking out against. You Know Apple Pie. Coke Apple Pie in the American flag like? Burger been will come back. Be It'll be good. He'll probably be better than Baker, Mayfield and been. We'll give the steelers a will of a chance to win games with that defense however. Lamar Jackson the best quarterback AFC north. It's not been robbed Burke. I mean when you win an MVP and the National Football League you're the best your quarterback in the division there's. I don't know why it's even controversial I think it's just controversial because it's been so ex winslow said two thousand fourteen been was very good. Not As, good as twenty nineteen. Lamar Jackson! And I may make this spreadsheet I may share it with you guys so. You guys can see the numbers. And if you still have issue. With it. you guys can argue me down on the Sunday program I'm GonNa put it in the live chat. You'll see now as I posted in the live chat I. Want you guys to go click the stats in the live chat and see comparison Lamar Jacks year last year was awesome. He may never play that well again. You guys could be absolutely right schemes could catch up. But he's a fantastic athlete. And he's a fantastic player in the ravens are a very good team, and the steelers are going to have to be on their PS and QS next year. If they want to compete for a super bowl with their defense, Ben Rothlisberger coming back. Presumably, he's healthy and he's okay. I would adjust quarterback room to number two behind Lamar Jackson rg three. And lamarcus had a well of a year. That does not mean that Ben Rothlisberger is not a good player, but like Gina said. Lamar is definitely better right now. As of June fifth when I am doing this podcast, Lamar Jackson is better. But again I want to thank you guys for Chiming in to the program. I. WanNa make sure that you guys are still staying safe. Let's make sure that the nation takes care of the nation. Let's also if you protesting out there. If you feel so inclined, let's do it peacefully. Make Your Voice be heard if you do not choose to do that, do not but let's make sure everybody stays safe. Let's make sure that the nation takes care of the nation and with that we. We are going to conclude the program. Remember to like the show. 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Falato on Football: Trades, Trades, Trades; Pro Day Circuit

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27:19 min | 4 months ago

Falato on Football: Trades, Trades, Trades; Pro Day Circuit

"Support for this. Podcast comes from progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars. Buy a plane ticket. Pay down your student loan. Treat yourself to those shoes. You've been eyeing with progressive. You could find out drivers who switch and save save an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars on car insurance get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you can be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey to save with progressive in two thousand nineteen. Hello everyone and welcome to a lot of here. On big blue view. Radio i am the host of the show nicholas kilonzo and today. We're going to be going over the last week. What was going on in the nfl. And i gotta tell you. It's going to drop on a sunday but man this past friday march twenty six was really a doozy. Really jumbled up the nfl draft order and also zach wilson's pro day which doesn't necessarily affect the new york giants too much but man. He looked really good slaying. The football all over the yard and throwing from all different types of angles looking like a supreme talent right in front of joe. Douglas and the new york jets. But let's dive into these trades. It's very very interesting to see. Kyle shanahan john lynch and the san francisco forty niners target a specific quarterback in trade all the way up from twelve to pick three with the miami dolphins who drop all the way back and we thought that was over. We think that's a big deal in. Its own right. And i feel like it is because they had jimmy garoppolo. Reportedly they wanna stick with jimmy g. through this season. But obviously you don't trade up that far to not select your quarterback of the future and the san francisco forty niners gave up a decent amount to move up. They gave up that number. Twelve overall pick third round pick in twenty twenty two first round pick in two thousand twenty two and another first round. Pick in twenty twenty three. So miami is just stockpiling and at this point right. They are just collecting assets so they can replenish roster. That's already solid may not have the quarterback of the future which is really problematic when you look at the fact that they selected to buy low in the top five last year but that still remains to be seen. Then miami shocks everybody less than an hour later. They trade back up into the top ten with the philadelphia. Eagles were sitting there at six. They give up twenty twenty two first round pick and the number one hundred twenty third overall pick in this graph may also receive the one hundred fifty six pick in this draft so the eagles essentially get a free round. Pick out of this just to drop those six spots. And if they weren't targeting somebody at the quarterback position which is seems like they actually were. According to a lot of reports howie. Roseman was looking to trade up but looks like now their plan. Is they by an extra pick. See how jalen hurts place and if it doesn't work out next year you have more ammunition to trade up safe. You go six and eleven since it's going to be a seventeen week season or something like that and you're picking at pick ten. You have an extra first round. Pick the trade up into the top one or two to select. Whoever the top quarterback is next year. So i love the trade on the eagle's perspective and now they're sitting behind the new york giants which is kind of nice for the new york giants can't get scooped by that division rival although the dallas cowboys are sitting there at ten. And now you have the cowboys. The giants and the philadelphia eagles from ten to twelve. Nfc east having a little party at that section of the draft. But let's talk about this from san francisco. Forty niners standpoint. You trade that draft hall. It's not the biggest haul we've ever seen. But it's pretty massive trade hall to jump all the way up. You have a quarterback in mind cow. Shanahan has a player that he feels. He can finally hitch his wagon to the first quarterback that came to my mind was actually the one from north dakota state trae lance trae. Lance is a talented player. He didn't play in all that many games because he played the twenty nineteen season started and then he played one game at twenty twenty. which wasn't his best outing. If you watch just that film but in two thousand nine hundred and you could see upside as a rusher. You can see the offense that he runs where he's basically tasked to set the protections. At the line of scrimmage which is a pretty big responsibility for a nineteen year old kid and trae lance. I feel like he could be somebody who could mesh well with what kyle shanahan wanted to do on offense. Just run that system where you build it off the play action you move the pocket a lot. If you're i read isn't there you can dump it off to the fullback. Which is something that kyle shanahan lots to do in his system and they're bringing back. Kyle us check this year so that works out. He also has a camden of an arm. Accuracy is a little hit. Or miss. From what i've seen. But he also has like cam newton type of upside as a russia and now is that hyperbolic a little bit. Maybe but his ability to run. How fast he is now. Physically big years it's gigantic and it's going to be used heavily in any offense to be honest with a good offensive coordinator. So that's the first quarterback came to my mind especially since his trait happened before the pro day for just fields now. justin fields. Prodie doesn't happen yet. It's going to happen in a couple of days after this releases but it hasn't happened yet and it just doesn't really jive with me that they would make destroyed before that program. They already went to the other pro days for these top quarterbacks including mac jones. But i'm i don't really believe that's what the san francisco forty niners are going to do. I believe it would be trae. Lance or zack wilson. But it looks like sack. Wilson might be that number two pick to the new york jets which is interesting in its own right and then you look at this from a miami dolphins perspective right. Miami dolphins dropped back to twelve get more picks and they trade back up to six. Who were they looking to. Target with that six overall pick they have somebody mocked. They're looking to add to that office of line where they just spent a first round pick austin jackson last year. They got the guy from louisiana lafayette. The robert sale coached. Robert hunt play the interior played. Well at believe they drafted him in the third round last year or do look to add to the skill position players because preston williams can't stay healthy devante parker has been hit or miss through his career. He's shown significant strides. I think you can say but they don't have that necessarily reliable burner. I liked you. Kim grant as a gadget type of player credible speed and explosiveness. There is another player. Who's always dinged up. So do you look at someone like jalen. Waddell there pair with to a tunnel. Bilo a former teammate. Obviously at alabama. You say the same thing about devante smith or do you bring in that x. type of receiver that big body receiver who can win contested catches run routes. Well isn't a phenomenal. Athlete is not the jail waddell type but still phenomenal athlete. In jomar chase. Do you go in that direction. You looked at ad added. Rashawn slater to really bolster up your office of lines. You do have erik fire. Starting guard there. I think miami. It's fascinating that they traded backup. And it's not going to be for quarterback wouldn't imagine it will never left if they had a quarterback in mind so i think that's a really interesting situation there for the miami dolphins and just for this draft in general on the one thing. I really want to take away from these trades from these blockbuster trades going back and forth is that it's excellent. This is happening for the new york giants drape for the new york giants because this basically solidifies that at least two of the top three picks. I'm going to be a quarterback. They're going to be at least three certain quarterbacks in the top eleven i would argue. There's probably definitely going to be forks. I don't believe justin fields gets passed the panthers or the lions so. You're talking about four quarterbacks that are going to be gone before the new york giants select at pig eleven. This is going to push the bush on slater's possibly down the board gonna push them. Mike parsons down the board. It's gonna push some of these high profile type of guys pitch jalen waddell who. I don't think the giant fully will out. I'll be i do believe. They should upgrade their offensive line and find ways to generate pressure. I don't want the giants to be spending a the eleventh pick on one of these edge. Rushers i don't know if the value is at that position i would love for them to trade down. Don't believe that's going to be dave cattlemen's mo it's never been his mo. Before so. i can see the new york giants either. Staying put selecting a best player available now. Who will that be. The quarterbacks are not something the giants gonna target with daniel jones on the roster in this sort of quasi peuvent type of year but these other players are going to be falling down the board a little bit more now. 'cause the miami dolphins and san francisco forty niners traded backup into this top. Ten out of the miami. Dolphins are probably going select somebody. And we're gonna want for gonna be real but san francisco. Let's go on for a quarterback and we could have top four picks go quarterback for the first time i believe ever with trevor lawrence. Probably gonna jacksonville. Zack wilson to the jets. Maybe trae lance to san francisco and possibly justin fields returning to georgia. Where he's from. The study was born in to play for the atlanta falcons. Who are going to need a quarterback. They can't get away from matt ryan contract right now. The cap hit is just too much matt. Ryan will be starting quarterback for the atlanta falcons this next season but arthur smith can get his guy. You can get a good one. Justin fields to help lead his franchise into the future. Because matt ryan time. They're coming to an end. Julio jones is also making a ton of money he's stone affect receiver but he needs to stay healthy as well. Yeah i think these trades though they. It's interesting that kyle. Shanahan is going to find himself a rookie quarterback after a year being removed from the super bowl. I mean greg good on that rookie quarterback to have that kind of coach kyle shanahan and a team in the infrastructure on that team. That just coming off the super bowl not this past year obviously the year before i mean that's gigantic for whichever lucky quarterback of the four land there or do i say five with mac jones. I mean. i don't believe that's going to happen. But we all know. Cow shanahan likes his kirk cousins and quarterbacks quarterback that can process really really well a quarterback that is accurate with the football and a quarterback that get the football out of his hands quickly and that is mack jones. But i don't. I'm not buying daniel. Jeremiah floated that out there. I'm not gonna bite. But i figured i'd bring his name up. Just in case who knows. The giants are lucky enough. Some team will fall in love with max jones. Or maybe that doesn't have to even be a trade like new england trading from fifteen up to the lines or something like that. Maybe that doesn't even have to happen in the lions or the panthers fall them. The panthers coached him at the senior bowl. And then mack. Jones ends up going before the giants. That's five quarterbacks and then that just leave six picks up until the new york giants really five. We're gonna talk about going before the new york giants and look at the list to get the penny souls. The offense of tackle from oregon jalen waddell from alabama the wide receiver your marchese wide receiver. Lsu got the corners caleb farley patrick 'certain mark. Mike parsons you have the quickly. Pays the world. Sean slater tackle from northwestern who really really interesting to me. There's a lot of good talent. It's going to be available for the new york giants at eleven if they stay put. So that's going to be a very interesting thing to kind of. 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Mike parsons he opted out of the two thousand twenty season. But he's an absolute wrecking ball in terms of being a blitzer. He's very very good and run support. Huge tackle radius. I mean he's six foot three hundred and forty-three pounds just ridiculous. Thirty one and one fourth inch arms and lebanon chance which is unreal a physical freak and he just ran a four three nine at two hundred forty six pounds. I'm sorry two hundred and forty six pounds which is in sane put up the bench nineteen times post a thirty four inch vertical jump at ten. Six broad trump phenomenal athlete. And i just love the fact. Picturing him in patrick graham system as a blitzer. We know patrick. Graham loves to use the nickel blitz. he loves the us the weakside linebacker blitz. We saw it a lot with take. Crowder sought some david mayo. Even saw it a little bit with blake martinez and mike parsons as a second level defender who can impact the past russia's. Well let alone. Just be an excellent linebacker next to blake martinez against the run and in coverage that can take this defense to the next level but the value for edges and necessarily there at eleven to the giants go with someone like z. Social laurie yes they go someone like jalen phillips who is more of a four three type of end but it's still a very talented player. Yes it'd be a stretch. I think even aziz would be a stretch. And i do like. Oh laurie but i still think it would be a stretch and eleven. Parsons is a complete type of linebacker. Nobody's gonna know. Michael parsons better as terms of his character than some of these giants coaches man pat flaherty was on the penn state staff. Obviously sean spencer was a defensive line coach. They know mike parsons characters. His character is in question because of some hazing violations or purported hazing violations from his past. And you're talking about a great athlete. Here who can affect all levels of the defense in terms of coverage getting after the passer and stopping the run and i know linebackers quote unquote devalued position. And i understand that. But i'm in the business for the giants of adding good football players and michael. Parsons is probably going to be the best player available. And that's going to significantly upgrade that defense. I mean i like takeout or take graph it or whatever you wanna call him. Think he's a solid player. But you can upgrade from that position and bringing in parsons who was recruited to penn state as an edge. Rusher could really help the ability to rush. The passer. clenched hands is ridiculous. It really is. That's insane kind of grip strength. Their his ability to stack shed play peekaboo around offensive linemen. Who try to get to them. At the second level let alone put himself in an advantageous position because process the game. At a high rate to now i would i would love that addition and that's kind of warmly in a pro day. Who saw joe judge patrick. Graham both talking to him. He's in real consideration for the giants at eleven get twenty six pressures five sacks according to pro football focus the last time we saw him which was twenty nineteen because he did opt out twenty one years old. He'll be twenty to the start of the season. Could seventy seven tackles had four. Pb us pro. Football focus numbers from two thousand nine hundred and his numbers were the best in the nation. And he's incredibly accomplished. I would really love. And there's his teammate. Jason away now. We bring up jason as a six foot five two hundred and fifty seven pound edge rusher from penn state and he ran a four three six forty at his pro day. That's amazing when you think about it. It thirty four and a half inch arms looks the part. His vertical jumps in which really vertical jump at broad jump. It's really kind of shows off the lower body. Explosive ability burst of a player jumped thirty nine and a half inches in the vert and eleven feet two inches in the broad. That's insane type of numbers right there. That's a lot of explosive abilities. And now you may be asking. Why isn't anybody talking about jason away at pick eleven. There's reasons why as because jason away didn't have a sack in twenty twenty. It's not because he didn't knock down he just didn't get home. He had twenty pressures. Ten them came against indiana and the first game of the season. Four penn state but he disappears. Lot doesn't show up on the tape all that often. He's a good run. Defender uses his length with very very well controls. The point of attack set a firm edge. But he doesn't finish he seven sacks coordinator pro football focus and twenty nineteen twenty eighteen combined and then none in twenty twenty and that really hurts him. You're still talking about probably second round prospect here especially after. He tested the way he did. He looked the way he did and he measured the way he measured. Nfl teams put high precedent on those types of things reasons. Not being talked about at eleven is because he didn't have the production you need to be able to get the production obviously in the nfl and always also not somebody who's going to be dropping into coverage and playing now flat which we know patrick. Graham likes to have a lot of these defenders. But like i always say graham always find a way to make i feel like someone fit into his system as long as they have the athletic ability and as long as they can play the run. I think those are huge. Parts of patrick ram. What's due to keep continuity of his defense intact but still. That's cute for jason. Oh i don't really know the giants look in that direction but that's still gigantic for but again. who knows. pat. Flaherty sean spencer. Both penn state coaches who a coach both of these players so that has to be waited. But mike parsons and eleven. Like i said. I think that's a real one right there to watch. Now it's another player. It's been linked to the giants a little bit. A lot of these mock drafts. I don't think the giants are going to go in this direction. But he at his pro day. This past week said edge rusher quitting pay equity pay six foot two two hundred and sixty one pounds. He ran a four five. Two forty yard dash really freaking good for his size. Really really good had a thirty five and a half inch vertical. Jump as well and he had thirty six reps on the bench. That's insane the next closest. Wolverine was ben. Mason the fullback when twenty nine. You're talking about an edge rusher here. And he looks the part as well. I like woody. Pay watched his film think he's going to be a good football player but i don't see an elite player there i don't and it's really sucks because pay kinda came up a little hobbled after one of these forty yard dash dries so he never got the do his twenty yard shuttle he got the do is three cone or any of those ridiculous tests that he supposedly would just annihilate and be like the ninety nine th percentile. So that's something that. I would have really kind of help. Elevate him i think a lot of people know that he would do really well knows. I think a tweet came up earlier in the offseason. A him running a three cone and was an official time but the time was just insane and quickly pay. I think he's going to be a first round pick. I don't believe the giants are gonna look necessarily in that direction but kenley platt somebody who is now the analytics director for pro football network. Somebody i used to work with at inside the pylon. He collects basically the entire testing database. But everybody from nineteen eighty-seven who goes through all these tests. Aggregates are scores and he finds what he calls. Ras which is the relative athletic score and the stats that he calculated. Check out to be quickly. Pays forty third out of one thousand. Three hundred and thirty eight defensive ends that were tested since nineteen eighty-seven like i said he comes in forty third in terms of his. Ras score which is based on a number from one to ten ten being the best one being the worst. Pay a nine point six nine. Reis when you look at his module everything is basically green except height and his weight. Little bit underweight undersized because pay did only come in at six thirty to a lot of the websites had listen to six four six two. That's not great. Really and ed rusher so but athletically gigantic for him. He has burst the explosiveness and all of the underwear type of olympics. We talk about with a lot of these edge. Rushers one more name. I wanted to go over his allies robert tucker from usc. They had their pro day earlier last week. And i think he should be. Somebody that can be linked to the new york giants. Now a lot of people think he'd be a much better in zone power gap and i could see what they're talking about. The natural feelings only played a lot of zone at usc. But you can also see how he can pull into. Space has great location ability on a strength at the point of attack can execute those down blocks really well on the playside can bucket step and pull on the backside as a court and he played left tackle for the us trojans. This past year is more regard. But he left tackle. He didn't really miss a beat bro. He was also six four three eight pounds. He ran a five ten forty and then he jumped thirty two inches in the verb. Which is really frigging good. Three six reps to twenty five on the bench with as really freaking good and the giants need help on the interior office of line. Think possible use help tackle. I don't believe they're gonna look in that direction because you have. You spent the ninety ninth. Pick in two thousand twenty draft on you. Bring back nate soldier. Who has started many games in the nfl. Though he did not look like somebody who could bend the last time we saw him but he was playing through an injury. I believe the giants need to add talent still to this office of line. It's not a sure product who speak about the upside of parrot we talk about well hernandez and jalen possibly being the starters here at guard. Hopefully it's not zach fulton to be honest if he if he still playing his twenty twenty self but i feel like the team. The new york giants are good football team right now on paper. They had a lot of interesting pieces. But we're all hoping that all of these assets on the office of line reach. What could be solid player. So the office of line to be solid enough to allow daniel jones defined kenny golladay sterling shepard darius slayton kyle rudolph in ebony ingram on these passes then they open up holes for saquon barkley. Healthy saquon barkley. I mean that's enticing enough as it is but it's not a certainty that it's going to happen me. We'll hernandez was bench last year for shane. Lemieux shane lemieux has struggled in pass protection. They were pretty bad andrew. Thomas had a lot of bad tape early on corrected himself but he could have a sophomore slump and then matt baird the last time we saw him he basically helped give up three sacks consecutively to the baltimore ravens now that they weren't his fault but they all came from the right side. Of the line of scrimmage. It's not great. And i'm all about competition and i know joe judge in this. Coaching staff is all about finding players. Who are versatile and multiple positions that is allies avert tucker. Thirty two inch vert. Thirty-six reps on the bench is huge. His tape also checks out as well so they got the name to kind of throw in there now. He doesn't play all that long. He arms aren't overly long for tackle. And that's why a lot of people are projecting guard but he executes great angles yet only slightly over thirty two inches which is in great. He's very very smooth with his kick. Steps is kick slide. Vertical sets jump. Set frames blocked. Really well i think he's somebody kind of pay attention to he. Won the twenty twenty. Moore's trophy which is given to the pac. Twelve best lineman offensive or defensive. I just think it's another name that we should be considering. Just because i mean i'm not super comfortable with the offense of line right now. I know a lot of other people. Who follow the giants. Aren't i think it a wide array of outcomes. The giants offer the if they reached their peak. They're going to be able to open. Those holes are going to be able to pass protect. But that's if they reached their peak. Daniel jones has been pressured so much these last two years. They may not reach their peak. That payer may struggle early on may not be that strong at the point of attack. You've just hands that well. I never really loved his punch to be honest. He's more about going to make contact and use my length which i love the fact user length but he doesn't dictate with a strong pop. His hands will hernandez. I don't know what to expect. Don't know who are getting. I would take two thousand eighteen hernandez twenty nineteen we'll hernandez was a let down and then twenty twenty will hernandez got benched now. Cova could've played a role net. Yes and shane meal. I like him as a run blocker. Good on those polls but man. He is a liability and pass protection when he gets hit quick with speed the power conversion. We saw that against tampa bay buccaneers on monday night. Football with william golden and not consume. They both were able to just get interior pressure on daniel jones. Sheila new cannot hold up at the point of attacking and it was like the happened twice every game. It seemed like he needs to get better at that. Hopefully he will. But i still think investing top one or two pick in this offense of line specifically the interior office of line is a smart course of action for dave gettleman and the new york giants already. Everybody thank you so much for listening to this. I am nicklaus lotto. Is one football. Please check out everything we're doing over there. Big blue view dot com. We haven't greek writers over there writing about this team. That you love the new york football giants. Hope you guys are taking care of yourself. Be safe be well. We'll talk to you soon.

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Attack Each Day: The Harbaughs' Podcast

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"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast one. He is is currently the head football coach of the university of michigan wolverines and a former player. His dad and brother are also former players and coaches but there's more to them than just i put ball. It's time to talk about attacking life each day with an enthusiasm unknown demand kind. This is attack each day the harbaugh's podcast ask with jim harbaugh. Hello everybody welcome to another edition of attack each day. The harbaugh's podcast ira wanchai peer coaches jimmy jack carbo of course course there here it is the harbaugh's podcast ricky. Matt dudek is here as well reminder. You can strive to us on apple podcast. You can listen to the podcast won't apple podcast one dot com and please. He's follow us and contact us on twitter at podcast or using hashtag jack talk and coach coaches. I should say what i walked in this building. What a difference just obviously getting the guys back but there's this added bose. There's like a jumping. Everybody step must be really fun to have everybody back here hard at work and get ready for the season it it sure is <hes> practice gone good. We've <hes> had five practices and been sharp geyser <hes> in great great shape ben herbert his staff that amazing job. I they really did set the table for for us <hes> to do what we're doing and the players <hes> doing what they're doing right. Now i mean they're they're strong and they're in shape. I just comment <hes> <hes> had a chance to sit in on ben herbert's presentation tation at the beginning of the barbecue a when the parents were their moms and dads and some grandparents were there and all these kids were there. How would we have <hes> there was fifty kits kids and <hes> matt came up and <hes> kind of dimmed the lights and start his presentation about the the strides that our football team has taken over these last six months and we all talk about that you know iras sense it. I percents it and then he put up that graphic put up the graphic of the players some of them that have been here for what six months six months yeah the guys and he kinda showed the the picture when they walked on campus back in january then there was a picture of last week and the weight gains and the and the difference in the in the in the structure of those young men not only the gateways but some that have lost trauma. They look like different people to to what you're talking talking about with with ben herbert yeah even <hes> mike dana who's been here for eight weeks gained sixteen pounds of lean muscle mass lost two pounds of fat that and the street numbers exploded and he weeks so demeaning thing watching baby fat disappear or dane is an the guy had been around for four years younger guys you see like the baby fat disappear and then it re shaves its muscle and you're like you recruit route one kid and then they transform under ben until like this other kid and they look like two different people and it's an amazing thing and one of the point not just the weight training we all think think about lifting weights and what they do there but the the die <hes> the diets that these players are on the nutritionist abigail. That's here and you talk here. The players talk about about what she has added it to the program so it isn't just the way part of it but it's the the food intake deter taking in the portions and the and the different varieties of food that they that they eat one guy that stands out with that made your group is mazi just picture. When you came on campus he was just coming off. Christmas miss all the good meals all the good food and you came and he's fully transformed what he looks like now so it's really great and it's not just we can look at raw numbers right you. It gets put on on a roster so people look at it. It's a weight gain or weight loss but they maintain athleticism. They increase flexibility. I don't know how you put on twenty pounds and maintained being i'm just as equally as athletic as you were before but a guy like jalen mayfield who we've heard he's a part of that right tackle battle. He put on like fifteen twenty pounds but i'd imagine that his athleticism athleticism is exactly the same or maybe better than it was before. He put on twenty pounds just one more time. I know i've been here thirty three times in your out. This is my third time. Diana's sons a chart. I will go to the bench and sit down but the other one was head to sled. How much weight did he have on that sled. That's eight hundred pounds eight hundred pounds on the sled like two poles extending from from the sled and these guys would get down with a flat back you know their hips and shoulders about three defeat off the ground and they pushed it in the first time they pushed it. I mean it seemed like it was hours. Formed a move it like what ten yards ten yards. I mean it was struggling doug on you. Wash them then. They went to the after they walk that thing down there. It seemed like about eight ten seconds to show you this not just wait wait and all that other things and look functional strength and and performance that <hes> that he's executing in the weight room no question about it and jalen mayfield's makefield been in the program for over year <hes> the two that stand out in my mind mazi smith who lost a good twenty five i pound of fat and and david job oh was able to put on close to twenty pounds of and most of it lean muscle mass and he looks as good as anybody that's ever walked through the door as a freshman david has so it's been a couple examples apples but it was a tremendous tremendous offseason again ben herbert staff <hes> that amazing job lane the setting the table as my dad said <hes> that presentation that he gave to the recruit the parents the coaches you could not sit in there and not be impressed with with <hes> what's going on in our weight room and our strength and conditioning program and and call it the center player development here michigan something that happens as you lead into a fall camp. The a generic around the country can have an especially with older guys as they get ready for camp and they realized that they remember how hard fall campaign that's a lot of hard work that you put the players. Go through and you end up with some veteran players. Maybe some other players like yeah. It's not really that excited about getting out there to play it sounds like as i was talking to a couple of years system coaches at your golf outing that your players there was no none of that it was all meant i am fired up and i'm ready to go and you guys pretty much one hundred percent of your guys just rearing and and ready to go and none of that complain that you might hear from players around the country especially older guys that have been through you know three four fall camps in there like they know exactly how hard the work is somebody. Your guys are eager and ready for the hard work. We're keeping a very simple. First of all on a couple of days before camp starts even the first day you do you expect nothing but enthusiasm and vigor from everybody and you're gonna get that here at michigan at that every program at the country <hes> <hes> should should last today two and three people start getting a little bit sore for they start to get the long faced five usually the <hes> you know hits the you hit the floor and our our practices one two three and four have all been ascending and that's it's <hes> we're getting ready for for day five now and <hes> so it's a it's a challenge out to the team to keep this as you're pedaling uphill really making strides because that's where you can can separation from opponents but we're just really trying to keep things simple ira <hes> <hes> be great football. That's <hes> that's what we're all have in common. That's why we're when we are spending these hours at practice or meetings. That's a the common goal for everybody. Get greater football was scheduled for the players. As far as i know the first four practices lead into the first full padded practice but but as far as when you get him out there for the first scrimmage type scenario and that kind of thing is there. I know you guys have your schedule pretty laid out. What does it look like for the next week or so for these guys as they know what they're about to embark on the first five days acclamation and then starting practice six seven eight nine. We'll have <hes> almost every day. They not every day they'll be. They'll be some scrimmage. That's embedded into the practice. We don't <hes> we don't have big scrimmage days where the the whole practices devoted to to scrimmaging but <hes> we <hes> try to bake it in each day question. This was opposed at me and something that goes back now bunch years you have n._f._l. Teams will meet together and do practices together. They have exhibition games the n._f._l. There's one sport at pretty much high-school college college or pro level one sport that has no scrimmaging with another opponent or practices or an exhibition game. Everybody has except college football. You have any thoughts on on eastern could come together for a scrimmage day or or have exhibition exhibition game but something for you guys to hit somebody other than on your own team one time like in the middle at some point during fall camp to maybe get a different look for your guys now. I don't have a thought on it. <hes> i mean it's a fact that college football is the only sport that doesn't have an exhibition season doesn't have preseason games doesn't have spring training <hes> where you're going against opponents in college or pro sports sports <hes> there are the they count from the the very first game so <hes> you get ready for it. You get prepared for it and and there's a lot of times <hes> where the opener is looked at as you know what team plays best as a team and doesn't make the mistakes that cost cost ballgames always see an openers throughout college football. More games are lost than they are one. You'll see more blocked punts. You'll see more blown coverages. You'll see more missed. Assignments fumbled snaps <hes> airs on kickoff coverage and as i said pont but it'll be across the college football landscape so honing in on on all the details it gives you your chance yourself the chance for the possible success in the opener thing you try to do as a coach. Is you want to kind of build to to being at your maximum of best on game day the opening day and that's difficult to do because you got twenty nine practices to get ready. There's some mandated things in there. The first four or five practices are mandated by n._c._w._a. Of what you can learn how hard you can practice and then you want to get it and they kind of take them and then at week week and a half before the game then you wanna rising rising rising peaking on game day the twenty ninth ninth practice on august thirty first this year and that's sometimes difficult to do when you don't have the kinds of advantages. They haven't professional football twenty seven thousand five hundred twenty five what practices they're killing us. I mean we can't we can't have due to a day. We don't have what twenty nine was was the magic number how how do you possibly get a team ready without today's and only twenty seven practices. I guess everybody has the same problem don't they that was a year ago yeah they they put that rule in and mandated off-day tweak no to it as as you said you could tell the transition. That's that's kind of how we started the segment. You can sense the transition from offseason mode to n._c.'s emoting while you're in practices and not engaged yet you guys are in full season mode rock and on every single day long days i'm assuming the coaches where you come in review the tapes of the practice from the day before or if you aren't doing that right after practices over which is one of the great advantages of modern technologies you can watch practice what right after it's over with and heck you can watch during practice now with the new screen inside the glick. Yeah we're immersed. <hes> coaches are we'll get here anywhere from five in the morning and stay till about ten ten thirty at night every day. I'm enjoying it. I have no complaints whatsoever. I am one of my goals. Enjoy enjoy. This training camp the most of anybody on the squad. How does it coach go out enjoying a training camp. Just watching you guys work that hard working <hes> yeah working hard. I mean having a having a having a a mission that you're on and i said keeping it simple. Try to get get graded football trying to have our whole team. Get great. Have individual guys get great at football and <hes> because if you do that that's that's what we're here for and and be <hes>. That's <hes> that's. We're all striving for common. That's our common combine. That's what we're all in it for so the next few weeks lead up to game week. Obviously you're looking for a depth chart to create itself right. You don't it's it's just kind of see it happen on the field and create self as you see who steps up above the other guys take a certain amount of time for say a right tackle position or running about whatever it might be able into specifics but it does it take a certain amount of time amount of practices for you see who might be elevating her can are there times where you can see from day one who has jumped out if you think that it may be two who are three guys in the competition at a spot monitoring the depth chart everyday <hes> make it <hes> we get together at ten o'clock at night as a staff and and we go through each is position and and <hes> the depth chart is analyzed every guys analyzed every single day and as to the right tackle <hes> jalen mayfield andrew stupor both or <hes> both really battling. There's <hes> you know yesterday. I <hes> the last day and a half a jalen mayfield <hes> you know kind of surged day and a half before that it was <hes> it was stupor so so <hes> you know they're they're both both it means a lot to both of them. Yeah it's gonna it's gonna take pry all of those at least twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty. The twenty five practices to the tumor determine who the right tackle will be seems like here and it's even from before way before you guys got here. There were certain position battles that someone almost could win by default just because you needed to get somebody out there on the field and fill that spot. I don't think we're in that position anymore. It seems like you're the depth at each position the number you have. Maybe there's not experience at every spot like we're talking about right. Tackle does not experience there but someone's gonna jump out and sees the job whenever you know that that i want it that someone's going to jump out and see the won't be. I guess he's going to start because we have to get somebody out there yeah. There's i mean there's some examples opposed to that. There's the young guys at the at the punt gunner position have searched and seized <hes> and are are are doing a daily now. They gotta continue to do it. It's only it's only been a handful of practices in so far but <hes> to have goners with the kind of speed that <hes> jackson has and dax hill has and <hes> you know that is that is showing up right now cornelius johnson those three right now have surged and sees that <hes> that goner spots so there's there's other examples but <hes> you know there's one interesting thing. Is you watch young players <hes> in most programs <hes> freshman. There's an opportunity sometimes for them to jump and get playing meantime simply because there's openings. There's their spots. It's not that they're playing. Maybe that well but they happen to be in a position where you need help so you you move them up and give them plaintiff meantime the thing i see with this team with the young freshmen that are on the squad right now. They're talent is commanding the respect of the coaching staff after or you want to get him on the field somewhere as you mentioned. Maybe it's a goner or maybe it's <hes> a nickel type position or something i mean these guys are fast i and talented and and earning playing time i know the fans are excited to get a chance to see you guys out on the football field and a couple of weeks and before we get to there of course a lot the hard work done here in the building and somehow inbetween all these practices and meetings and everything else. You have to find a way to squeeze in some meals and man. I have a recommendation for you the butcher box put your box. We've talked about a little bit here in the past. How does butcher box works birch box. You choose from four curated boxes. Including a mix of high quality grass-fed grass has finished beef free range chicken and a heritage breed pork or you can customize your own box that you can get exactly what you want and your family will love so i think we know that the customized is box for coach. Harbaugh will be steak steak and more staying workshop and important shopping great porch. We actually we gotta mailed. Butcher box senate the workshop. It was very good. It was an thick thick pork. Chops thick steaks one thing that people worry about when they get mail order food is will it stay. I'm at work all day. Will it stay cold on my front porch where i can tell you. I had one male to my house for coach. It stayed on my front porch for nine hours. When i got it. Everything was still frozen. It was a hot they here in michigan. They had it packed up really nice in a great box. There is a freezer full of meat coach's house for you. Jack and we have more meat here in the in the facility ability that we got to get over to the house too so there's i just thought maybe you didn't have my address. No sir i brought i brought in that box and i brought it for you guys. It's horrible podcast. I wanna make sure thank you. You're dipping into these delicious organic. Free range meats put them in colour brought them here and got him to your house. So everything was clean. I pointed to my house to your yards run together so your house eye opening my arms now so we can stack in. I can stop by there this evening and piss surpa pork chops. I send you home with some meets today. Some fine butcher box meets today. That'd be file. Stop over jim's. We'll do that this afternoon and make sure we do that. Each each box comes the least nine to eleven pounds of meat. Which is the butcher back. I didn't want to mail to the office so i had just had him sent. 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I've never had the day of medical training in my life but i can't. I can't speak to the fact. If you do not eat you will die. Thanks fact so why not eat the finest meats might as well eat meat delivered right to your doorstep frozen because if you don't so you will perish. That's that science. We have a quick story about that. Jim had some <hes> some work done. Surgically a few years ago in and when he was at the stanford stanford and and sarah was somewhere jackie was somewhere i was there to to look after dream after the surgery in paris france and we came home with this he he and i and it was they had they had the the meat in patty eddie so all we had to do is take them out and in and fry them you know and all the food to the refrigerator totally full. We were there for like two days and they came back and the patties were still there. No one took the initiative to to cook and the statement was made the two of you would have perished had we not come back act but because each of you are too lazy to take charge and and prepare any kind of food. Is there anything about that story that i remember yeah. We didn't eat for about two and a half days. Because i had <hes> i was i had surgery. I had my tonsils and they said it was gonna be an outpatient thing and i mean it was it was bad. It was <hes> the pain was was really bad but the but the other part. I really wanna eat. Dad didn't eat anything and then finally. I got hunger after about two days just looking at each other. Go you hungry and he goes yeah. Hugger i go on. I'll make sandwich sandwich. Yeah that's talk good. This man is my mom makes him every single meal he does not even he's never made self meal. No i haven't uh-huh. How did you get that how did you let's not talk about that. Jackie listened to the podcast. I don't want anything on tape. That's going to make a difference in how on being treated at home so let's forget about that. I got a podcast. I think the listeners would be very interested. There are a lot of guys that want to get to you yeah. How did you get that kind of range first of all. You never volunteer to do anything. We'll just sit here. Let me get breakfast. You don't do that. He just sit there and eventually actually you know it happens and the other thing is screw up every once in a while when you do get a little bit of a job screw it up to where they say well you just can't and they jump up and and they do it and then you sit back down and you wait to get served. I've seen that now that's that's. He's like an artist. It's museum quality my mom i asked him to do some. It could be anything pick anything. Change the light ball. Do something you know so. She said hey jack and change that lightbulb doc pops right up off the couch runs to the garage gets the ladder and by the looks like he's attacking where the unknown okay but then somewhere along the way the door the lateral hit the hit the door or he'll knock delight ball off the out of the light doc with the ladder. You'll fall down the ladder something that you've seen all three of those things occur with up ladder and then that's that's what ha- that's there's genius genius of it right there. My mom just stops asking him to when you're gonna hurt yourself. Come on in the house back down on the couch. I the the brilliance though so is the way you did the initial pop up get going like you're like you really wanna do it ki- that's cute it because the other the other you get in trouble if you if you don't repositories if you powder around you snap right into action. You have have no chance no chance to go where you're where you've taken where you've gone. I wouldn't say genius but i don't throw that word around how loosely but i'm calling genus have you jon and joni if you follow me in that or have you. How would you describe your your way of handling that. I've i've tried it. It does it have not been able to make it work like that. Near the finesse that near the the ability you are watching. I can watch closely have the talent one thing before we jump on the barstool guys jack bat dudek and uh. I don't wanna touch this with. There's absolutely no. There's there's lindsey also listens and i'm happy to do whatever you ask me. There's i don't know i've kept my coverage virgin. I don't want to screw anything up. Last week. We were with gregg harden. He gave jack jack some advice on how to attack his baseball tryout out that he can do in his base child. He is advice was to have the most fun of anybody out there at the tryout and not only jack take that advice you can. You heard earlier. I took that advice to that's my goal to have the most fun of anybody in the program this training camp and he did great and he did. He did well well. There's a lot of other good players out there too but we were really proud of them. He's got a good arm and he hit hit really really i wasn't there for the hitting hitting was outstanding. I mean there were even older guys trying out and i thought of course i'm a little biased and prejudiced in my i- evaluation but hit the ball very solid that night ping ping ping sound as he came off the bat greg hardens talk about having fun the first day of course tim was working and <hes> when over about nine o'clock to pick them up and sarah wanted to go along jack. Jack was having a tough time he had just finished breakfast but he was kinda. Downcast and so sarah road along she was in the backseat encourage going to have fun and i'm driving we get their ooh bounces out of the car and he takes off running as if you know this is so excited about it the next day we went back for the second trial which was optional. They say you can come back if you want. In about five youngsters came back and so we came back came back myself he was excited. Look out the window ready to go got out of the car and ran the second time around the fact that he had done it all before he had he had found out that he belonged there it in the group. You'd never played organized baseball before before attack the day totally different than he did the first day because of a being able to have said he had been there and been able to go through it so their subsidy he said for that and he was more really better the second day i thought in the first day because of that actually ties into last week's check talk where we were talking about what tyler talked about his <hes> hall of fame induction where the first thing is to believe in yourself and then have that be the what sets the stage for moving forward and attacking improving and getting better each every week can't do do these things enough as the college football season quickly approaches. We all know that michigan football the talk of the town. The athletic is gearing up for all of its expanded college football coverage offering an incredible deal for their exclusive content articles written by the top experts engaging podcasts videos and more. 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They're part of the family here at podcast one there from barstool sports they host pardon might take so here's our conversation from jim harbaugh's golf outing jim harbaugh myself dude nick along with big cat and p._f._c. commenter so now joining a tacky say the harbaugh's podcast by the guys from pardon. My take big big cat. We have comment there. Welcome back to the podcast guys oria. Thank you good to be here just wrapped up a neat little thirteen holes. Yeah you gotta know thirteenth hole. We played thirty individuals of one wow. This was a great lesson to remind us that we are not golfers. I think we said that about one hundred times to each children like this is not in the sport for us. We're more sit on the couch ball guys four guys ira. I'm no goal. I'm good at as anybody in the world at watching football that is correct right when i get out there on the golf course i play until i hit one good shot and then i'm like okay. I'm done good one yeah. They say golf is a humbling game aim. We'll guess what we're how. It humbled us all the way out of there. We don't play anymore. We're so humbled. We don't gotta do talk off yeah. We talked about catholic. Agai works camptosar guy. He's been on the show a couple of times. He also is the perfect guy for us to root for because he doesn't like golf. He's just very very good at it so try. He was a baseball player at florida state do you you know his whole story is backstory. Not the whole story go ahead so he his nanny got in a car accident with brooks in the car when he was eleven years old broke his nose couldn't do any contact sports for an entire year so that year he started playing golf boom beat his dad in the club championship when news thirteen or like it was that like if that's sliding door moment hadn't happened. He probably would not be playing golf. His dad had parking spot reserved for himself at a golf course because he was the club champion and then his thirteen year old son beat him and took his parking spot even though he couldn't drive that's gotta be. That's what would happen. If if young jack beats you three years at golf had be fired up so mad mad but happy happy madman broken nose that doesn't allow play context so yeah. He got in a car accident. I don't know i. I don't know what exactly happened but he just basically was going to go with a mask. Ask a ball or azure face masks for football. We asked him about that because that's actually what stood out to me a little bit psycho you can play baseball with a broken nose. Just you know just don't get punched in it. That's about it but i think those florida kids are grown a little bit different down. There yeah coddled a little bit. Don't do not question the man's toughness that's true no no oh and also you have to recruit florida so we'll take that back. Thank you. Thank you gotta keep recruiting there well. The toughest kids have worked. Commission worked out good for there's some michigan edmon down in florida that explains why the practice he talks about not practicing before on major so he doesn't like wow yeah he practices when he's on the course yes when you see him playing golf. He is practicing golf <hes> that's it. He's got a great caddy and his cat does basically gets out there and says brooks hit the ball right there aim for this tree and it'll be fine and he goes out and hits it directly at that tree and it works out well for him. It's crazy because you talk about like people who are excellent at their sport and the elite of the elite and he's in that conversation nation now but he doesn't have the same love for the game that maybe some of the other elite of the elite have which makes them very interesting and very relatable in our is <music>. I actually think that he he doesn't love the sport but he loves competition. Karate loves winning. He loves being the best stuff and so like that part of him really shines in a golf tournament but it's not that he really loves going out there and working on game or the active play golf in fact. He told me you've really got the mental side into yes yeah. He doesn't over thinking over yea. The only thing he thinks about nothing right the only thing he doesn't like yeah. He said he blacks out from holes like eight to about fourteen every single time he's on the court. She doesn't really remember what's going on. He just getting out there and hit and the only thing he doesn't like is when someone who's playing with place slowly that's it. That's the only guy like homes that yeah. He's he's. He's the most relatable golfer athlete at the top of his sport. That probably ever has existed so right now. You guys are doubt in football though right. You're doing training camp training camps yup. How many teams do you go to so we went to the browns yesterday and then we drove up to detroit we interviewed baker mayfield in the quarterback r._v. Room that they have have there and then we came up to detroit talk to matt patricia and then we're coming back to a casual green bay so we'll hit four camps and we'll count yours is the fifth camp total camps yeah five camps last year we did. We went up to san francisco. We talked to kyle shanahan and john lynch and then we went down and talk to sean mcveigh jared here at golf in l._a. So it's good it's time it's we're talking about our show. It is the real start of the season when we get to go out on the road early august and and start talking football like for real football not draft stuff or anything. It's football is coming and it feels good. The off season ends earlier for coaches coach's commentators everybody else but you've got to want it to right. Oh yeah you june and july. It's like basically right after the n._b._a. Finals we we have about a three week break where it's like okay. This is kind of nice. We do our show a little earlier in the day usually during football season where at the office to one in the morning so that little stretches stretches nice and then after about late june early july once you lie fourth comes working for football due back we scrap and claw for stuff in the summertime to get interest listen next year we can look forward to the olympics yup so that'll occupy us for about a couple of weeks here. There was a women's world cup. We dealt with that for a couple of weeks and we got into that but ultimately the the months of june late june and july or just spent us waiting for football to come back right now. <hes> ben mason you gave ben mason our ben mason number forty two an award award last year trophy. The load man man like loma winds padlocked yeah. It's important so <hes> yeah. We created an award for the nation's top college four back. We actually put together a great committee of people to vote on it. It was john kuhn anthony sherman. Who said we have on there. There was anthony chairman volunteer. He's the connecticut yes for the chiefs. Yep yeah. Vantera leach was on their. We a nice group of people. I think danny vitel was involved. In an <hes> aaron ripped hausky so some some grateful backs where all voting on it and throughout the year we had a watch list so the finalists were been mason alec ingold dirksen awesome. You know wolf talk from army. He was a grateful back there and ultimately i think i think the best choice won the and you'd like the trophy it was just a a tire with a beer can nailed into it so that's fullback loman trophy up. How many different awards do you have. That's really the only one well thank you win an award ceremony in the middle of summer and we also do football