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The QB Scho Show #46: Corts, Pericles, Agathocles & QBs!

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The QB Scho Show #46: Corts, Pericles, Agathocles & QBs!

"Cantor from Cox has all your favorites all in one place and with the contour remote you can use your voice to fund them on live TV on demand and streaming APPs like like Netflix Do and more seat Cox Dot Com for details. Welcome into the cubes go show. This is episode forty six brought about fine folk. SP nation and bleeding green nation on your host. Michael Kissed. Follow me on twitter at Michael Kissed. NFL here with me as always to break down the upcoming enemy quarterback we'll take a look at some Wentz Performance Review Against Dallas. Dallas will do a lot of things here but here to do that with me as quarterback one in my heart in our minds he is Marco `field mark brother opium a merry Christmas. How you doing brother Dude? Well Mr kisses a pleasure to be back with you and I hope and trust that your holidays were wonderful. And judging by the photos of you had various airport Akbar's I can be confident in the knowledge that they were indeed magical now of course we begin with our historical reference than it's the last one of the two thousand nine hundred regular the seasons. Should we qualify that. We both have historical reference to. They're both pretty exhaustive. Yell at. I told you before the show is GonNa Save Mine for the end. I I don't care this is our show. This is what we're going to do if you if you WANNA skip this door reference. If you're not a big fan of them we get it skipped to about the ten minute mark. Let you know right now. Gifted go right ahead. Write Morons Kiss. Let's be honest. It's December twenty seventh. Ed I'm home with the kids. They're upstairs chomping open at the bit because Santa is infinite. Wisdom brought them build a bear gift cards so I get to go to a mall on Friday December twenty seventh which. I'm sure is going to be empty. I'm sure there will be nobody there. Nobody having returns or any. Yeah it's GonNa be dead there so look bear with US friends all right gentlemen. There's a season it's been days Give us this one. Okay back to the historical reference. There's absolutely no other place to begin right then. With the fact that perhaps Egos it was tight. End Zach urged is also a gentle listener and yes I referred to the audio arts with a historical reference of his own spoke of Cortez and burned the ships upon on Landon and conquer in Mexico. Now he led a very crews Mexican city on the coast across with Cuba where Cortez's men had been in Cuba for years. Prior and Cortez destroy the ships message. Clinton's no going back now of course Cortes There's a bit more to the story right. They're always history. Cortez was disobeying in a direct order from the governor of Cuba not to engage in any missions of conquest in Mexico. So there's no cold back for him either way. It addition. So what do other Cortez actually even burned the ships tips. Cortez had some concerns among men specifically a potential mutiny. Many of his men were still loyal to the governor of Cuba and they conspire to seize a ship and escape back to Cuba book. Cortege moved swiftly across their plants to make sure there was no such mutiny. He decided to sink ships on the pretext that they were not seaworthy. So there's always a little something something on the side but this pre game speech from urge set me down a path of historical oratory and it brought me to a place. Michael Case knows well Perez and his speech speech the annual public funeral of the war dead of the end of the first year of the Peloponnesian War. Now I'm going to tweet out this entire speech worth reading. If you're a fan of Oratory ed stuff like that but I did just want to read one. Quick passage from water near for the whole worth is a Sepulcher of famous men and their story Lori is not graven only on stone over their native earth but on lives far away without visible symbol woven into the stuff of other. Men's lives for you now. It remains to rival what they have done. And knowing that the secret of happiness freedom the secret of freedom of braveheart not idly stand aside from the enemies onslaught forties that is not the poor luckless the ones who have no hope of prosperity who've the most 'cause to reckon death is at a loss but those for whom fortune may yet key reversal in store and and who would feel the most trouble befell them. Moreover weekly to decline the trial is more painful to a man of spirit than death. Common Southern unperceived in the hour of strengthen confidence therefore I do not more with parent with the parents of the dead who are here with US rather I will comfort them for. They know that they have been born into a world manifold. Chances in that he is to be accounted happy to whom the best lot falls the best sorrow such as yours today or the best death such as fell to these for home life in happiness or bound together now the again the whole speech is a tremendous. Listen but the problem again. It was probably the feed in high watermark following. Hollywood year brought the great plague which killed thousands included pericles himself. More calamities follows the war. Expanded to engulf the entire world producing such breakdowns of ordering instances of Bob Bertie as a civilized never know the twenty-seven year conflict wiped out two generations and in the end. Athens surrendered her enemies. Tore down her walls and forebear only at the final hour for massacre in her entire populous of all the city recovered nevertheless. Say the rule of thirty all produced a random Tara Socrates with try to condemn them to death on charges that were travesties and less at essentially after pericles is speech death. Ian Feeding armies were crushed by Philip of Mastodon and the era of a political autonomy for the Greek world in the city states was over never to return so speeches sometimes ice to read sometimes not as successful in the AD is funny. In the summer I read the Peloponnesian War by Donald Kagan which is fantastic and deals with the exact subject that you're talking about it and is very very fascinating. So that's that's a good reference. I also for my historical reference. Wanted to talk about another version of burn the ships that Zakar did not reference in his speech to the eagles. Before the Winter Dallas and and that is of a gothic lease the tyrant of Syracuse. WHO reigned from three seventeen to two eighty nine BC he was twice banished from Siracusa? We're going back to twos beginnings here Siracusa City on the island of Sicily that sits between what would be familiar to us. In the gentleman's as Rome and North Africa a ghastly we seized power by returning to Syracuse with an army and slaughtered the guards that was his main goal the entire time so shortly after that war broke broke out with Carthage. Carthage had very serious trade interest. In the island had set up several colonies there carthage blockaded Syracuse and in a desperate desperate attempt to shift the focus of the war a gap Achilles slipped the Carthage in naval blockade and landed in North Africa so he paid for the fleet elite of sixty ships and thirteen thousand five hundred men by murdering his aristocratic opponents. Confiscating their property pillaging their orphans. Inheritances appropriating temple offerings so on and so forth is a real gem now he lands on Cape Bong. That's roughly one hundred ten kilometers away from Carthage with age and with full understanding of the risk in this game it. He set fire to the ships to eliminate any thought of escape and this worked for a time. He captured two cities fairly easily and set up camp outside of Carthage with the bulk of their army of Carthage Army. Still on Sicily. The carthaginians at home assumed that they must must have been defeated in Sicily and went into a panic were told. They tried to appease the gods by sacrificing two hundred high-born children while three hundred others quote unquote unquote voluntarily sacrificed themselves in a fire which people are so apt to do a gothic lease full of himself at this point and taking on a bit of an Alexander under complex then faced a mutiny from his own troops who were becoming sick of him and Carthage was fueling this by offering to pay off his army which was filled with a bunch of mercenaries of course and they wanted to be paid a gothic lease then had to put on a great show against this mutiny. Acting as if he was going to commit suicide before bringing the mutinous soldiers back into the fold he followed this up with another victory is all reinforced. Again has a victory against the CARTHAGINIANS force. And then he was able to convince a guy known as has a fellas. The ruler of Greek city noticed siren or Kyran and also a soldier with an actual Alexandrian pedigree having served in the mcadoo and army with Alexander. Gothic lease promised Fellas all the territory that Carthage held in North Africa if they were successful if they were able to combine in their forces but it was all a ruse Agai- thick lease murdered a fellow list and brought his large and well equipped army into his ranks. Now this is already already getting complicated. I understand this two things happen after this that are just bonkers. I A CARTHAGINIANS general named bomb car. Who is in Carthage? At the time sent a good deal of the distinguished citizens to fight the Numidian tribes employed by a gothic lease thereby eliminating those who would oppose his own coup to take power in Carthage while they're basically about the have a a war with a gothic lease now babacar rampages through the city killing a bunch. It's just citizens. The citizens are able to resist and then offer amnesty and terms of surrender to the rebels which are accepted but that was also a lie and Bommel car art is probably tortured and killed so carthage has their city back after surviving a coup attempt. But they still have a Catholic lease to deal with and a Catholic lease has his own issues. Those issues are that Syracuse is still under blockade and in his absence from Sicily several of their vassal cities had decided added. Screw this guy. We're going to declare independence so again. He says okay. I'M GONNA go back home and leave my son in charge of the army here because yet they burnt the ships but they brought more later. The problem was his son possessed none of his father's talents and soon as dad to come back and help but by at the time of Gothic lease was able to return he saw the situation was dire and depending on who you believe he either straight up bounced on his son or they got separated. The army armie there gets beat up on they deserted. They killed this on. They then offer peace terms. They're offered up by Carthage to that army. They are accepted follow-up followed by negotiating negotiating a peace with a gothic lease. Carthage had basically had enough and refinancial exhausted instead of. Just let us have what we had in Sicily. Before we'll call all this off will do you later boom deal now. A GAP Achilles having this huge L. is unable to hold that Elvis just who he is. He declares himself King of Syracuse Syracuse. In three zero six pretending like L.. Never happen and then tries to stretch his implements into southern Italy. But he's eventually taken ill with jaw cancer. And I'm quoting from Richard Miles in. Carthage must be destroyed here. Quote as a final irony. The man who silken tongue had propelled him to such notoriety was burnt alive on his funeral supplier because the disease had robbed him of the capacity to move or speak and quote. Boy Finally took that Al took that L.. Hard that's a hard. I'll take the message here. Is it both of these references. Nobody what Jerry Jones bite of said to his cheap you either before weeks exceed before week. Seventeen it ain't gonNA matter because that Dallas cowboys team is just a tire fire right now. Oh I'm telling you I mean they're they're on the verge verge of mutiny themselves so it's looking real bad for let some as it is all the like cowboys writers hint at. What's to come on black Monday? Like there's going to be the like post festivus airing of grievances where like Garrett and company just GonNa be like laid bare on funeral pyres So to speak. Yeah he's run out of scapegoats at this point. Scotland hand is no longer there to place. The blame on like the offense was very very good on her Kelham. And the thing is too you can't can't fire Garrett now because of the Eagles lose and Dallas wins. You're in the playoffs. GonNa do that with like an interim staff just fired. Everyone like narrow our would be. That would be crazy. So you're stuck with this guy and thought Dak had a very skillful dodge of a question asking about Garrett's future and he was like look. I'll be damned if I'm GONNA talk about somebody's future here when I'm on the last year my contract twos basically said which I thought was a fantastic answer to kind of shift away from that while not supporting and also not like defaming you know Garett or however you WANNA put would it but mark Speaking of Dallas will will get into the meat and potatoes of the show. Here I mean the meat and potatoes is always the historical reference that I thought we did a good job there but let's get into acquit performance review from Carson. We don't have to go too far into it because we are a week away from it. Obviously the holidays pushed the schedule back but looking back at this game against Dallas Dallas. What did you think of Carson Wentz? WHO's obviously dealing with a depleted set of receivers? Are Bob Broken ribbed Zachert and so on. I thought it was another solid sort of performance from him always soon a game. They needed the two things I was most impressed with him. Were pocket movement and processing speed. You look at some of the stuff on the early drives where they had that you know slot fade. It was second fourteen thirteen thirty mark in the first quarter they wanted. Slot Fade. It was covered. Dallas showed something different rotated into to a cover three. Look he comes off. The fate comes right to the sit route really quickly. I really liked that then. The third at seven the very next play they have that little follow a trail concept from the right which the Eagles seem to love. To run this year he spots the blitz. Replaces it with the ball. I really liked that design. No later in the first half of the their final drive you know he. He had some really good throws there too. He had nice time at an anticipation are curl route to Goddard. That I loved design that shallow cross run with sit route over the top of it which picks off the man defender trying to get over the top of the rub that was really good. Read in throw and the pocket movement to you know early. The Third Quarter seconded ten nine twenty nine but he just finds sanders on a check down route work until right side the sort of subtle pocket moment where he slides to his left away from where Sanders is going to throw that. Check down route. I thought that was a beautiful play with him. You know finally the out up to ward off of play action late. Third Quarter loved that too because that was a great rate. Read and throw made that with anticipation too because as wars breaking out he was pulling the trigger like he knew he had a shot to make this throw. Gut it out of his hands on on-time anticipation throwing a double move which is really nice and then some of the scrambles in the scramble drill throws were nice to see his wall especially the one to j jaw earlier in the game and so I thought it was an impressive performance in a game that they had to win. Not much more. I think you can really say about it. It was just a good game. They need the win. They got the win. They gotta get one more and it continues the momentum awesome the eagles have been on in Carson. Wentz has been on after being heavily criticised after having poor games against the Seattle seahawks and the New England patriots. Obviously I mean. There's always the the the caveat that there's been a revolving door at the wide receiver position and the tight end position and that continues. But I mean there's the thought and Philadelphia that the team goes as Carson arson whence goes and there's some truth to that now you can understand the context of well who is the team right Royale and what can you really expect from whence but with the Way New York has been playing lately at least in the past couple of weeks and especially with Daniel Jones back which we're GonNa talk about after the break you might need Carson Wentz to really put the team on his back with this too depleted wide receiver and tight end core. What do you think are the realistic expectations for once going into next week? Is it more of the same. I think it is more more of the same. I mean this is a a judge secondary that their defense isn't crate. That run defense is probably their strength as defensive unit. I'll be say what you want about. What what Daniel Jones was able to do last week against the giants twin Haskins until he got hurt though he was having a pretty good game as well? Yep It's not like a situation where you're going to look look at the judge defensive thing that they're going to be able to really stop you. I mean I don't think so. Went should have a solid game in this one. Yes there are injury concerns with irks and others and their piece in staple adage superglue on offense around him. But I think that that he can deliver this game and that look you do that. You get a home playoff playoff game and I mean who knows what happens in home playoff games and so I think it's at opportunity for wedge to sort of put an ice cap on this season as regular season. At least they go on and say look you know. The goal of quarterback many times is to elevate the level playing those around. You you know through oration or play when says done that over the past couple of weeks all the people that sort of thought that all falls was able to do. That added inspired this team and lead his team and deliverable. Which is doing that for you right now? Eh played better football so you go. I think that's a nice way to sort of put it as I said on twitter all I'm saying is that the seventy-nine rams the two thousand eight cardinals cardinals. The two thousand eleven giants made the Super Bowl at nine and seven giants ended up winning. Went through this literally. All I'm saying anything in. Who did the giants beat the Patriots? The it's now so come on it's happen. I mean look this is this is still a sport where you can get on a run late okay. And it's a sport where if you have some of those signature type victories propel you to greater heights. You might have thought imaginable well. Let's think about this to seizure type wins in the past actually three really if you go back to the giants game because that was a game. You're coming off your by you lose three straight off of your uh right. Most people will probably five seven. You're done would you have a must win on a Monday night. The return of Eli all that stuff you get down early. You could have folded in the tents right. You could've gotten back on the proverbial ships. But you did it and he come back and you win in overtime that you have another sort of at the gun kind of win against Washington in the game that everybody had circled on their calendars at this point national TV. I was at a holiday party. You never had holiday party that Sunday night. I walk in big-screen big-screen TV sit in front of that game. And even better I go down into the basement and I see what do I see stare at me in the face as a patriots. Fan Kelsey in the momber suit. A big framed poster board of him given that speech. I felt awkward. Pony up the camera taking a picture of it so I did it but this was an eagles house but it was. The game was on. The Holiday Party was focused around this game. It was a national event and they want it three games and sometimes the main point is you have those signature type winds. They've now had three. It could be the thing that propels you into this postseason and beyond and the interesting thing is in me and Bennett talked about this. You know if whence hence gets down. Does he start to press in that game and whatnot. I mean we never saw he was going to press or not. He has struggled push games before it struggled in big games against Dallas Alice you'd struggled against the seahawks against the Patriots. But this one he's able to put it together and he's also been able to put to bed some of the clutch stuff that that had been surrounding him before. That which I think I think game winning drives are a little bit overblown two different things. I mean Matthew Stafford is like one of the best in the League right now of WHO has the most wooded drives and what does it mean what it means nothing. Yeah so those could be like early in the fourth quarter. Would you hand the ball off fifteen times I am now. That's a holdover from like the newspaper era in my opinion. So so that's that's our little piece on Wednesday when we come back. We're going to talk about some Daniel Jones because Giants don't look the same as they have for a good portion of the season then might be reason for concern turn in Philadelphia headed into week. Seventeen that's coming up next here on the QB's go show. Hi this is Cara Swisher host of Rico Deco. It's been an incredible credible. 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Every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking eating disasters to pro wrestling. Too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college football. Every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early. Really and unfashionable pants. That coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP and we are back here on the. QB's go show episode forty-six SPCA bleeding. Green nation are bringing it to you. Michael cast gear with Mark Mark. Scofield mark let's dig in to the New York giants and I guess the new look New York New York giants offense because they put up seventy seven combined points over the last two games to their highest scoring outputs I mean one of them was with Eli and Saquon. Barkley looking healthy again healthier than he did against the Eagles Eagles a few weeks back I think he's finally fully healthy after that high ankle sprain so that adds an dynamic threat and then Daniel Jones comes back last week against Washington and look I understand. Miami Washington not great defenses from what I'm being told. They are in fact bad defenses. But when you just watch the process and you watch the film of Daniel Jones against Washington it's not just the stats the three hundred fifty two yards the five touchdowns and zero interceptions and he had his normal fumble in there. I was probably the most most impressed by Daniel Joe's from a process standpoint than I have been all year. What about you mark? Yeah I'd agree with that and I think what's interesting is we've seen now with Jones Jones and actually going back to last year Josh Allen. Sam darnold there these instances where rookie quarterback's get heard sit down and sort of figure the things out and come back and look much better. You could say that about Josh Allen. Last year he went down. He comes back he seemed to sort of piece together. Donald had the foot injury comes back and SAM DARNOLD ARL down. The stretch last year was tremendous reason why you know people sort of thought there would hopes for the jets. Perhaps you get into the playoffs. And I think we're seeing that Jones is well because you know former sort sort of conceptual standpoint if your rookie quarterback think about what you've gone through you've gone through you play your bowl game that it senior bowl combine prep combine combine prep combine team meetings draft rookie minicamp. It's like a whirlwind sprint. You haven't had really a chance to catch your breath and now you're suddenly you're at NFO quarterback in wall. You Know Allan Donald was starters. Jones became a starter early in the season. He didn't really get a chance to sort of figure it out so so now he's adapted to life as an. NFL starting quarterback having never done it before and sure he sort of watched. Eli In week one and maybe a sense of how Eli did it. But it's one thing to watch a guy I prepared during the week. It's another thing to do it yourself. Now he has to do it then he gets hurt. So what do we get the chance to sort of sit back now watch again with that frame of reference. Where her this is how I did it? Now get to see how I was doing it. See how he pieces together during the week at a gives you as a rookie quarterback chance to reevaluate how you approach the process of being an NFL quarterback and I think that is critical. And you've seen this. You mentioned you know he gets sat down and comes back. It looks perhaps even a little bit better and so I think eight this little time away from the field was beneficial for Jones. He looked great. It gets Washington with the caveat that the Washington defense and they had some serious boss lost in the secondary the touchdown to take one Barkley. That was one of those nerdy football twitter moments where my DM's were instantly filled with people looking to the dots saying okay. Who busted it on this play because it was a busted the second Erin Bray friends coach? Facet bryce Rosler trying to figure it out. It looks like a linebacker should have carried Barkman vertically but Jones. Look good in this game and it's an interesting thing to think about from a giants perspective. You finally get Saquon Barkley healthy you get involved in the vertical passing game and good things happen because would you suddenly have. Your runback was number three in terms of a defensive coverage standpoint. Get on off fast and get vertical up the scene. It's going to create some conflicts. It's going to put some guys into the wrong position. It's going to make some guys make mistakes and so there was a good thing to see. Your giants fan perhaps stressful in to see if you're an eagles fan but Jones looked pretty good. The Caveat Would Jones is always this you snuck it in there he had the one fumble. You're the one obligatory fumble which you can pretty much before the game starts just put out of the box score Daniel Jones fumble than maybe colon. We've a black fumble lost a fumble recovered but he's going to put the ball on the turf. He still has to figure out how to handle the pocket. He has to figure out how to you. Know respond to adapt to pressure in the pocket. The acid learned that sort of offhand. Famed like we talked about with wets at times. So you know there are some issues with him. He looks good. He looks better than many people thought myself included. He was going to be the NFL. And we'll see what he does this week and with the Eagles Eagles Defense I mean. Let's talk about maybe DAX performance and now the eagles did against Iraq and how we can kind of translate that to the giants because I feel like the and I talked about this on the customer selects show that the Eagles are extremely lucky in certain situations in that game number. One you gotTa Dak Prescott. That was I believe clearly hinder. Yeah so there's that and then there's the case of okay. An an again mentioned this before the Randall. COBB drop in the fourth quarter during the field goal. Drive to make it a one score game the overthrow Tehran. Austin the drop by Michael Gallup there these different situations where the eagles were clearly beat and are still susceptible the Bull on defense that I feel like a quarterback like Daniel Jones with the with the weapons that they have enemies. You look at their weapons. I would take Sterling Shepard Daria Slayton over and Golden Tate over the eagles wide receiver core for sure so Daniel Jones has more to work with Ben Carson Wentz and I believe with the Eagles Ronald Darby is on. I R Jalen. Mills's banged up with an ankle. We'll see if he goes. There are serious holes in this defense at. I feel that can be exploited so I am very concerned about this. You know the one thing to sort of keep in mind is Slayton's banged. I don't know he's got a knee injury. y'All he should be good to go and he had it look. You had a career game against the eagles a couple of weeks ago. Hundred fifty four yards two touchdowns. You know it should not have been a surprise to Genta listeners. We talked him up. You know in that game but he was really sort of limited what happened against Washington you know so he he might be there but sterling shepherd is still good wide receiver. I would certainly like how my roster I think Golden State still bring something to what they're doing office kid hid Smith. Interestingly enough has become sort of this weird go choo option for them in the red zone. Obviously todd are always good option in the red zone. Eagles fans know this well but that's Jones found twice in this game once on a sort of a corner out with pretty good. Velocity on the game winner where he's able to drop the Arm Angle Bit Nice placement on that crossing row from left to right right and so the have some weapons you know again it comes down to sort of what we were saying will be the Jones edition of the show before it was announced Eli Amanda was going to be the starter it does play the eagles strengths defensively because you get pressure on him and one thing we sort of thought about was man it was better at handle compressor than Jones was and that's that's still stands and so even though Johnson had this sort of a brief window to recalibrate is thinking that you should be get pressure Iran. He'll put the ball on the turf in makes mistakes under duress and that's where the eagles defending sort of capitalize even his band up. This they are. I agree so mark. What do you think what are your? What's your final final thought? On this game or the eagles going to be able to contain Daniel Jones enough as Carson wentz going to be able to run up the score on a bad giants defense despite very very little to work with on his offensive in his offensive weapons. Who Wins this game? I gotta no spoilers man spoil the whole thing for me. My spoiler alert is is this. You have to spend either New Year's Eve or New Year's Day together doing playoff preview show because look next. We're GONNA have to get ready to go. This is a Moment right it's one of those moments and we've seen the eagles start to seize these moments in the last three games. I think they come through in this one as well. Yes Jada Jones Jones present some problems. Yes a healthy Barkley could be an issue. But I don't think that the user come this far bird ships and then just get slaughtered you know so I I think went is going to deliver. This offense is good enough the emergence of miles sanders has been huge. And so I think this time next next week or hopefully before that we are recording our wild card weekend preview edition of the QB Scotia One can only hope it's what the dental listeners. Deserved as talk. Yeah so I'm glad you said that. Michael because I think it is only fitted in fair on this final regular season addition to acknowledge gentle listeners. Because look I am a unholy man in a most holy place here. I am a dirty filthy Patriots Fair. Doing a podcast on an eagles podcast network but this season has has been it has been such a joy obviously to do the show with my friend. Michael Cast who I absolutely adore and cannot wait to see in a couple of weeks and I hope to remember all of it but more than anything anything else. The interaction from the gentle listeners this year from all the great listeners. To the show you know all the tweets. The Re tweets the suggestions for historical references references. I it's been a blast and you know Michael and I are so lucky to get to do what we do anyway because we get paid to talk about football which is stuff we would be doing anyway whether it it was just her and our family members you know with their eyes glazed over or the gentle friends at the end of the bar. We would hang out at night but we get to do it together. Which is joy but we get to do with great listeners? And great fans of the show and create supporters of Shell and obviously you know grace with her swag for the show and the for the shows the holiday kissing solex elect stuff. I it's been a blast in the show. I love doing it each and every week. I love doing Mike loved who listeners. We can't thank you enough to many more years of doing this with you buddy and with the gentle listeners as well. That's all we got for you on the last episode of the regular season. QB's go show of two thousand nineteen. We hope you enjoyed. We'll catch you next time. Hopefully we're talking about playoffs. Let's go

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 703: Jamal Adams and Adam Gases Relationship, Antonio Brown, Carson Wentz, and the Top 10 teams in the NBA

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 703: Jamal Adams and Adam Gases Relationship, Antonio Brown, Carson Wentz, and the Top 10 teams in the NBA

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We have a fantastic show for you. You guys stay. It's GonNa be a football heavy show. Football's been dominating the headlines The past couple of days a little bit later on the show I'm GONNA be talking about? Antonio Brown. He has come back in the news and he could potentially signed with a team before the season starts I'm also going to be talking about Carson Wentz. As a former teammate of his really interesting, they want to get to as well. Well stick around to the end of the episode I'm going to be giving you. My Top ten NBA teams have done a lot of them. Be Lists, players, young players I've even ranked teams who are going the Orlando bubble in tears, but I haven't actually given you. Guys might top ten Crete. List of the best teams in the NBA will be giving you that as well. We're going to start off today's episode. With Jamal Adams situation now there was a very interesting development. I think either last episode or a couple episodes ago I talked about the Jamal. Adams situation and the list of Now I think the list has expanded to eight teams that he was would like to be traded to and now i. Am automatically assumed like a lot of other people that while Jamal Adams wants to win. A lot of this is about the money. The jets don't WanNa pay him which is why he would like to go to a different team. Now it is really come out that the main reason that Jamal Adams would. Would like to leave. The new. York jets is not just because of money. Even though that is a factor, it is mostly because of the winning culture and winning situation as Jamal Adams said that he gave the jets right the list of eight teams, and usually what happens when a player who wants to get paid is trying to get traded. They usually work out in extension with the new team is being traded to. First so that money isn't an issue anymore, and that's the only way that the player would wanna go betrayed to that team. It's different the Jamal Adams situation. He said that he would welcome. A trade to those eight teams that consists of the box eagles cowboys, Ravens chiefs a couple of other teams. He would welcome a trade to one of those without meeting an extension, which really just means Jamal Adams just saying I want to start winning football games I want to be an NFL superstar on the big stage in the playoffs and he doesn't believe the jets can do that. In my opinion, I think he's right I don't think the jets can do that for one reason now. The New York. Post also reported that one of the biggest reasons why Jamal Adams doesn't have faith in the New York jets and would like to be traded is because of their head coach. Adam, gays. He does not believe Adam Gates as a coach that can lead the jets to a winning championship winning seasons. Anything like that. He might not get along. Along with the guy period, and you know the thing with Adam Cases I. This is going to be a little bit of a rant on him. Because again I do not believe he is a good head coach I believe he is the worst head coach and his division right now. The AFC setting bill better than him. Think Sean. McDermott of the bills is definitely better than them. I think Brian Floors of the Miami. Dolphins is better than him yes. Yes I understand last year. Right Adam Gates when you when Sam Darnold quarterback was in the lineup. The jets had a winning record. The case could have been made that a Sam Donaldson not get mono last year. The jets could have made the playoffs, but we have seen this from Adam Gates before and the jets have specifically seen this. They had a front row seat without engaged before I wanted to quickly. Remind you some things about Adam gays and how? How, this is an extreme parallel that he is doing exactly what he did, when he was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins, a couple of years ago to now and why there is a reason why the dolphins fired him after three seasons, and the jets need to take that hand in do the same relatively soon because he is ruining their team just as he did for the Miami Dolphins, so let's start Adam Gates as a head coach in total. Right is thirty and thirty four. Not Good. He's not. He's not a winning NFO coach Mrs Second Stint at being NFL head coach. This is not his first team. Is In this first organization like I just mentioned he was the head coach of the dolphins as the head coach of the dolphins. He went twenty, three and thirty five. I'm sorry, twenty, three and twenty five. Sorry, he went twenty, three and twenty five in each season each season. The dolphins got a worse record each year so in the first year. If you remember when allegations, the first year as the Miami Dolphins head coach, they mentioned the playoffs at ten six with one of the easiest schedules ever jj remember. It was his breakout season. He went for over two hundred yards in two games. Ryan Tannehill had kind of a breakout year as well drive. Landry was on that team. devante Parker. Kenny stills on a couple. Couple of other guys don. The consumer was still on the I believe he was still in the dolphins at that time, and of course they made the playoffs that year, and that was Adam Gates. Hype was absolutely through the roof ever since then Ryan got hurt. If you remember. They brought him Jay Cutler Miss. The playoffs following your Ryan comes back dominance. Go Six and ten miss the playoffs again and they move on from Adam, gates altogether during that time period after the first year they made the playoffs and gays or after the Jay. Cutler year. Adam Gates had a choice to make a along with the dolphins general manager manager at the time Jarvis Landry who was one of the best receivers in the League and was definitely the best slot receiver in the League led the team in receptions and yards wanted to be paid the jets organization now the jets, the Dolphins Organization and Adam Grace, decided to part ways with drivers landry, and they treat him to Cleveland for a third and fifth round pick drivers Landry on social media, very kind of publicly has voiced his. With Adam gays during that situation and ever since another player that engage decided to get rid of because he didn't want to pay him either. I as well as an. Landry Jay Johnny dynamic ensue were arguing the three best players on that Dolphins playoff team in two thousand seventeen, and within three years of Adam Gates, being there. They were all traded because they didn't fit the system that infant. Adam cases, culture things like that now Adam Gates also has a reputation as a head coach of not dealing with the defense, he is an offensive head coach to an extreme into my opinion to a fault, you can be an offensive minded head coach, Sean McVeigh, but still interact and still coach. The defense with your fellow assistant coaches Adam Gates does not do that I knew jets fans have seen this before, and I have seen it before as well. As a lot of times when the defense is on the field is on the sidelines, the bench, not even really watching the game drawing a plays talking to the quarterback, which makes sense in some situations, but not the entire length of the game where you're not even watching the defense really play now. Let's go back to the jets situation. The jets are in a very very parallel situation in an appears to be the same thing that's happening here in New York with the Miami Dolphins and gays potentially could have made the playoffs in his first year. Year with the jets of Sam Donaldson Get Mono, and now people wanna be paid Jamal now this current projection. What what it looks like it's going to happen. Is that Jamal? Adams is probably GONNA be traded. The jets are not going to do as well as people think because the bills are. GonNa get better. The dolphins got better. Who knows what the Patriots will be gentle mist the playoffs again. Who knows what will happen with the Lady Bell Situation? There's been rumors that he might want out. That Adam Gates never really signed off on the. The signing of the on Bell, and then all of a sudden you have lost arguably your two best players. Jamal Adams lady on belt within a two year span again. He is replicating exactly what he did with the dolphins with the jets. It is as if he did not learn from his past experiences, which is not good when you are in NFL head coach also, there is a weird relationship between Joe. Juggle Joe Douglas the GM of the jets and Adam Gates the head coach. They were not brought in at the same time Joe Douglas. Douglas brought in after the draft visits was this first draft, so he was he was. It was weird, so Adam Gates was brought in. They kept their current. GM, then they're Jima gotten fired after they signed Levy on bell after they signed CJ Moseley and brought in Joe Douglas affiliate. I liked Joe Douglas I think he's a good coach I think he actually nailed the draft this year MCI Becton mims. Couple of other guys I thought they had a really solid draft I. Just have not sold on. Adam gays in the jets don't move quickly. As in figure out a way to keep Jamal Adams may get rid of Adam gays sooner rather than later they end up in a situation with with what happened to the dolphins, and yes, the dolphins absolutely look like they're in a good position. Now because they got rid of Adam gaze at him as left dolphins full rebuild, they have to now that tons of draft capital tons of salary cap again that makes. Makes Sense, but that's not that who knows that the jets could replicate that they got rid of Adam. Gates again. That is the reason why Jamal Adams wants to leave. He just wants to win and it appears wants to get rid of get away. From an-and case, it's not even about the money, and that should tell jets, fans and jets ownership everything. They need to know when the best player does not. Not WanNa play for your head coach. It's not always the players fault. You need to go deep dive into the locker room and investigate. What is the head coach doing? Is Adam Gates the right guy and I think if the jets really took the time to do that, they would find out that Adam Gates is not a great head coach. Not a lot of players get along with him. He doesn't really. Really coach the defense. He doesn't have a winning record and the team whenever he China takes over, they have a good first promising goodyear, promising the first year of his contract, and they start to deteriorate from there. My biggest takeaway from all of this is I feel bad for Sam darnold now Jamal Adams is GonNa get traded most likely to a winning team one of those eight teams on the list I. Suspect. It'll be either the Dallas cowboys if they can somehow find the money. Or if he wouldn't need an extension right away like I mentioned, but the most likely landing spot for me is the Tampa. Bay buccaneers since they're going all in, and they have the money to pay him I expect him to be a temporary buccaneer, obviously phillies another option as well. I talked about that in my last episode, but you feel bad for Sam darnold because he's not escaping. The New York jets, and this is what happens to a lot of young talented NFL quarterbacks where you land in the NFL manners Lamar Jackson, lands with the Browns, and it's not the i. don't know Ravens where he actually landed. There's a different story there. Why are you land as an NFL quarterback in particular matters, especially more than other positions when you the quarterback of a team? It is expected that you were locked in there that you're not requesting trade very rarely. Do quarterbacks requested trade in the fashion that Jamal Adams has done, but on the flip side quarterbacks usually get paid without much fuss on unless you're like kirk, cousins or something like that. Jamal Adams will be traded from the new. York jets he will escape the losing franchise. The bad head coach that he doesn't agree with Sam Darnold can't do with jet. What's what Jamal? Adams is doing. He can't go out there publicly and Bash Adam Gates. He can't go out there. Publicly ambassador the jets organization because he is the jets organization. He is the face of that franchise. He is supposed to be the leader. He is the captain. He can't do and. And now Sam, darnold is stuck. What appears on this sinking ship early in his career, which will hurt his development if I was the New York jets. What would I do today? I would potentially fire Adam Gates. I would seriously consider it. Yes, we're close to OTA's and everything like that, but if your best players Jamal Adams. Maybe there's some other people in the I'm sure. Adams is not the only person who does not enjoy playing for allegations specifically on. On the defensive side of the ball. If that is the case, you need to hurry up New York jets before your team is ruined before your franchises ruined in setback for years and years again I like Joe Douglas. I like Sam Darnold a lot I like the draft. They had I liked I liked. Their division division is not as hard as it used to be. But if you're back from your head coach, you were going to go nowhere in this. This league. There are three things you need in this in the nfl today that will almost guarantee you between eight and ten wins at minimum. If you have a good ownership structure, if you are a franchise that has had stability in the years past. If there are well regularization, you have a good general manager, and you have a good head coach, and you have a good quarterback, so that's four things actually if you have those four things, good front office. got a manager good quarterback in good coach. You can make do with subpar weapons. You can make do with some offensive line, subpar defense on a tough division a hard schedule. An example of that is the Philadelphia. Eagles Great Management Great General Manager Great Head coach, great quarterback they have had a poor receiving core throughout the years, not the greatest run game, a defense that's deteriorating and a terrible offensive line for the most part and. And Carson wentz his career yet they still find an ability in a way to make the playoffs sank thing with the dynasty of the New England Patriots, yes, they've had great players over the years, but for the most part they were not as stacked as the Joe Montana San Francisco Forty niners dynasty, not stacked as the Kansas City chiefs, who just won the super bowl, but they had a great head coach. Great Front Office. Bill Baltics Great. General Manager as well as head, coach and Tom Brady, and they may do with elements the welcomers, the Jacoby Myers the revolving door, receivers and defenders and corners and running backs and offensive linemen. That's how it works in the NFL. And if you do not have the head coach, and if your star players again, I understand that the NFL is not a star player driven league like. Let's say the NBA is. But if you're star player, Jamal Adams at twenty, four is the best player your franchise has had in about twenty years and he is saying I. Do not want to play for this head coach I do not trust this head coach to lead us to a championship to lead me to the playoffs to let me perform on the big stage. It's time to stop blaming Jamal. Adams in saying he's wrong. It's time to actually look at Adam. Gates, if I was a jets fan. If I was a jets columnist, I would voicing my. My opinion or really pushing for Adam days to be relieved of his duties as the head coach of the New York jets. I know it's late in the off season, but you. If if that is the way I understand that it doesn't make a lot of sense to fire a head coach. Just you can sign Jamal Adams puts bigger than that. It's your whole team. It's the mood of the locker room. It is your future if that's what it takes to retain. Jamal Adams, who is a representation of the entire jets locker room. Then I believe it would be worth it and my opinion. I think the jets should explore that. We're GONNA. Take a quick break on the other side of this break. 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The GS MC sports podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. Thank you guys so much for listening so far, so Antonio Brown has been back in the news. Recently, he was gone for a while, and now he appears to be back. He posted some workout videos about a week ago and now apparently according to some NFL sources, there have been some teams such as the Baltimore Ravens and Seattle seahawks that internal discussions about potentially signing the former NFL star Receiver Antonio Brown. It'll be interesting to see if that actually happens. I am personally one of the believers that. Brown will eventually make a return to the NFL. Not Without a suspension. I think he will be suspended for just everything that's been going on with him, but I do believe that he is a very talented wide receiver. Even still today and I think he could actually help a team when. I do believe he will be signed eventually what team I don't know. I have so I'll list of teams that I'm going to be explaining to you. Guys who I believe should sign Antonio Brown should at least heavily consider it. All of these teams I've also if Antonio Brown signed riot team. I think he'll be signed by one of these teams, but start off. Let's just get some context and Tonio. Brown obviously. He had that fiasco with the helmet allegations his fee everything with Oakland decided to leave went to New England patriots. Only played a game for them. There was obviously cut because of some allegations that came through I. Don't know where he is in the legal process with all of that. I'm going to be honest with you, but it appears that if he is back in the NFL, he would serve some sort of suspension, and then return to wherever team him. He is only thirty one years old, so he is. Is still in his prime of his NFL career in his career he has eight hundred and forty one catches eleven, thousand, nine, hundred and sixty three receiving yards and seventy five touchdowns that guys that's hall of fame numbers, even though he's, he's only thirty one years old. If you compare those numbers to some of the all time greats, that's comparable to Jerry. Rice at this age things like that that's he is a hall of fame type receiver. Will he get in the hall of fame? I'm not sure, but he is one of the best receivers in the NFL. When he was in the NFL I still believe if he came back, he'd be a top seven receiver in the League if he's in shape if he's in good health conditioning, wise everything like that and I think he needs. Needs to go to a team that has a really good quarterback and you know leads receiving helps. Let's just get right into it on some teams that I believe could, and maybe should sign Antonio Brown. Let's start off with one of the teams that has apparently had internal discussion, and that's and that's the Baltimore Ravens now I think the Ravens I'm one of the most stacked rosters in the league. It would make a little bit of sense Antonio. Brown's cousin Hollywood Brown is on the team. There were some pictures of the Mark Jackson in Hollywood Brown working out with Antonio Brown because remember maybe a couple of months ago. There was some discussion. Then I think Antonio Brown if he could pick any team to play four right now would probably be either the Tampa Bay buccaneers, who I will get into or the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens do make a lot of sense. They know what is. They played against him a lot when he was with the steelers. Obviously, and if there's any area that the ravens could use a little bit more help on, it might be the wide receiver core, and who knows if ab is willing to take a veteran minimum to go play for the Ravens. It would make a lot of sense for him to play with Lamar Jackson. Not that the receiving core isn't good for the Ravens by any means it's pretty decent. SNEAD, some other guys like that good tight end Mark Andrews as well who's been the Mar- security blanket, but adding a superstar receiver with the caliber of Antonio Brown with adding him Lamar Jackson Ingram They drafted the kid out of Ohio State. Dobbins as well, Mark Andrews. Andrews that great offensive line that phenomenal defense the Ravens are all in. They believe they can win a super bowl sooner rather than later and their window to really win. The Super Bowl is that we're know before they have to pay Lamar Jackson, now adding Tonio O'Brien. The cheap would only help from a football standpoint. Now are the Ravens were at the top? Top of the football world right now, essentially as potential super bowl favorites are they willing to take on the risk of Antonio Brown's character, the distraction willing to answer the questions things like that a potential disaster when it comes to what actually happened could he gets to spend it again? Could he do what he did with the raiders and forces way out things. Things like that aren't into question I think that's behind Antonio Brown personally I. Really do believe he just wants to come back and play football and return to what he was and again. I think he's in good shape and he's got a lot less than the tank. The Ravens make a lot of sense for me I. Don't know if they're willing to pull. pull the trigger considering they're already so and they don't necessarily need him next up. Is the Seattle Seahawks who also had internal discussions now this makes a lot of sense Russell Wilson is a phenomenal quarterback. I think he is the second best quarterback in the entire national football, League only behind Patrick Mahomes, and if you haven't been from watching Russell Wilson highly recommended he's. He's much watch television. He refuses to get hit. He runs around things like that Russell. Wilson has been winning with the poor offensive line, poor running game, poor weapons for the better part of a majority since the legion of boom kind of collapsed. He's never had a losing season in his career. Now when it comes to receivers, they have decay mccafe who i. I like a lot. Also have Tyler Lockett who I like a lot, but they both appear in my opinion more it than metcalf lock. It's a great receiver, but I think he's a product of how Russell Wilson makes him appear to be so good now if you add Antonio, Brown to the makes you have a legitimate star driven, receive record, go along with. With a quarterback that appears to make every single receiver. He's ever worked with really really good now Antonio. Brown the makes a lot of sense from a football standpoint again P, Carol has not been afraid to take on players a little bit of risk. He's very pro player coach. His players to talk talk a lot. Has that players like Richard Sherman Earl Thomas. You know there's been a lot of backlash from that. They've also controversial things, and that's kind of one of the reasons why the legion of boom kind of melted. There was not a great relationship between Russell Wilson Richard Sherman things like that Pity, Carol A P carroll is one of those coaches would absolutely take a risk on Antonio Brown, and my opinion. They're one of the favorites to sign him. If I could pick any team that would sign Antonio Brown, it would be the Seattle seahawks unlike the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens don't necessarily need him because there often isn't as past driven as let's say, the seahawks are who their entire offensive load rests on the shoulders of Russell Wilson and what he does with the football. Adding Antonio Brown is almost a need for the Seattle seahawks. If Russell Wilson can have A. A legitimate receiving core with Antonio Brown Tyler Lockett Decay mccafe developing into potential star receiver. Then the seahawks could really looked to take control the division on one of like I mentioned in my last episode there, one of the toughest divisions in the League cardinals only got better San Francisco, just went to a super bowl, and the rams are looking to rebound and I, think the best quarterback in that division is Russell Wilson and if you can get him some weapons, you could look to retake that division from San Francisco next up I have the Green Bay packers again. This any team needs Antonio Brown the most. It's the Green Bay packers now. I like I just said the seahawks could need him in theory, and he makes a ton of sense for them. Football wise, but the seahawks receiving core in my opinion is definitely better than the Green Bay packer receiving core the packers cores Davante Adams, and that's it and I love Davante Adams he's a top seven, maybe even top five in the league and again. Aaron, rodgers is just kind of like Russell Wilson where he makes any. Any receiver he's ever worked with good, but Aaron definitely needs a a number two, and maybe even a one eight Davante Adams and I think that Antonio Brown makes a lot of sense there as well would be willing to go to green bay a small market. Maybe maybe they can sell them on the fact that are potential super bowl contenders, but if Antonio Brown goes to the Green Bay packers, he will be good, and that would help rodgers a lot, and that's not forget. Aaron Rodgers was most likely and. Guarantee you not happy with how the Green Bay packers drafted, the packers went quarterback, and then running back. They did not get him any weapons on the outside. The entire drafted in that draft the wide receiver they did not sign any wide receiver of significance in the offseason either, and that has to piss off and I. Think Aaron Rodgers could potentially pushed the Green Bay packers for potential signing of Antonio Brown, and yes, I've mentioned this before. Aaron is most likely more leaning towards on his way out of green bay them retiring there as a packer. He's still wants to win in Green, Bay for the time being and win another super bowl and boost his legacy and Antonio. Brown would help that a lot and my opinion. He's a perfect scheme fit for Aaron Rodgers. The long deep ball Davante Adams has more of an everything row tree. The Guy Antonio Brown is too but as deep threat he would be. He would work a lot more with Aaron Rodgers as more of a speed, take the top off the defense kind of guy similar to his role when he was on the steelers with Ben Rothlisberger. We see the green. Bay Packers going after him and in my opinion. They should sign him like right now. They desperately need more receiver help for Aaron Rodgers, and that would also cool the media and the Green Bay. Packers fans clamoring for more help for Aaron Rodgers as well next up, I had the Minnesota Vikings were in those If you remember, there was a rumor that kind of got debunked that they were willing to potentially trade for Beckham Junior. So you know that they're in the wide receiver market, the obviously just traded Stefan digs to the buffalo bills for a first round pick. Because! They weren't willing to pay him now I. Think Antonio Brown is probably better than Steph on digs and would be an upgrade again. Kirk cousins, a nice quarterback, not as good as some of the ones I mentioned before. Lamar Russell Wilson Aaron Rodgers I think kirk cousins is good, but kirk cousins fall does fall into that category, but Jimmy Garoppolo a Ryan Tannehill. Dak Prescott like I mentioned in my last episode. He does need weapons around him. Kirk cousins needs everything to go right in order to go US far as a super bowl potentially, and they only have one clean cut really solid. Receive Right now. That's Adam feeling not. Not that there are other pieces are good if they can get Delvin, Cook signed to a long term extension, so he reports to camp that would be good as well, but who knows maybe maybe Davin cooks out a game or two, and then you're really lacking weapons from Minnesota Minnesota's lacking weapons around kirk cousins Kirk cousins is not good enough to elevate a team to win that division. The Green Bay packers will win the division again and the bears with Nick. foles could clearly arp come close to catching up to them if they don't make some more moves. They don't lineup Dalvin Cook and they lost their offense of corner in his. His Kevin's too fancy so Antonio Brown makes a lot of sense from Minnesota. Get those weapons around kirk cousins like I mentioned. Make sure that kirk cousins is comfortable has multiple options he can go to, and he's not trying to force feed. It's Adam feeling all the time. Make it tough on defenses to scheme around all the weapons you have re-signed Alvin, Cook. That's how the vikings stay relevant and stay good now. Let's move on to the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Why believe are another favorites to sign Antonio? Brown again like I mentioned at the very beginning of the show. If any team could sign Tony Earth Antonio. Brown could pick any team. Team to sign to I think would either be the Baltimore Ravens Tampa Bay buccaneers now it's clear that Tom Brady. Antonio Brown half some this. The somewhat relationship that no one really knows where it started problem when he was traded to New England, but they appear to be really close friends. Twenty Ron really wants to play with Tom Brady and continue to catch passes from Tom Brady. If you remember Brady was not happy with Antonio Brown being cut from New England, and I think actually pretty ask the New England patriots to bring him back on when the Patriots are kind of struggling at the end of last season, it obviously didn't form. Manifest in that didn't happen or anything like that. It wouldn't surprise me at all Tom Brady I. Think he already has there's been reports of. This is pushing for the Tampa Bay buccaneers assignment I. Know Bruce Arians said no, it's not a fit, but maybe his mind could change now again. They have plenty of weapons Chris Godwin. Mike Evans Rob. Gronkowski OJ -brate. Ronald Jones out of the background Backfield, but why not? Why not add more weapons for Tom? Brady's arsenal, the more weapons, the better if Antonio Brown was willing, Zubi calm to be back to his normal self and take on cheap veteran minimum type deal I could absolutely see the Tampa Bay. buccaneers wanted to do it and I definitely see Tom Brady desperately asking the time it'd be buccaneers to do it, but unlike some of these other teams I don't think they need Tony Brown as much by no stretch of the imagination to the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Antonio Brown. It's just an option that I think they could go. If Tom Brady really wanted them to. Now let's get to these last two teams. The, all of these teams I've mentioned have been winning teams. Almost guaranteed playoff teams especially if they got Antonio Brown and that's most likely were AB wants at the age of thirty. One he wants winning wants more stats. He wants his legacy and you kinda wants his image to be reshaped, but I have two teams on this list who are less likely to win now, but could definitely boost his stats, his legacy reshape his interest and their in the big market, and that's both New York teams. Let's start with the new. York giants now the New York. Giants are one of the biggest brands in football. They severely need weapons around them. Joe Judge was coming from New England had worked with Antonio Brown in the past. Not on a positional level, and Georgia was special teams head coach, but nonetheless they were in the same building together. The annual Jones needs help. He needs receivers saquon. Barkley, obviously struggled last year, battling injuries and also Joe. Judge knows that in his first season it would be great if he can make some sort of splash if we could take a big step in Daniel Jones development something like that and getting Daniel Jones a security blanket. Likening Tony O'Brien would make a lot of sense now you're probably asking. Why would Antonio Brown? Ever want to go to the giants? They're. They're not very good well. They're on the rise. They have saquon Joe. Judge could potentially be a good coach. I think Daniel Jones a real player, and not to mention you know. Maybe the giants would be willing to spend a little bit more money to bring him in Antonio Ron Stats would be absolutely through the roof another over the thousand yard season ton of catches tunnel touchdowns, he'd be their main weapon on offense, besides obviously saquon Barkley, which would be huge for his legacy, not to mention being in the big market of New York City as well can't hurt either. Now finally, let's go to the New York jets now. This is kind of the similar to the new. York giants Sam. DARNOLD has no weapons. They just lost Robbie. Anderson for nothing I. Don't think this is likely, and I sincerely doubt the jets whatever do this, but if the jets really want to take the next step Tom Brady's out of the division. They should going really hard all in trying to win with. With Santa Ana before they have to pay them already have lady on Bell. There's a connection between him and Antonio. Brown, going back to their steelers days. They obviously drafted Denzel's as well, but I still am not sold on the receiving core I now the Adam gays factor is sketchy. Don't think a lot of players like him. Including Jamal Adams but if Antonio Brown could be brought in again on A. A cheaper, maybe more considering, he be going to a less good team. San Don will have a real number one option, and you could really see Sam. darnold flourish, and potentially make the playoffs in the AFC considering. There's an extra spot and maybe if the bills took a step back, the jets could really win a wide open division if they signed somebody like Antonio Brown even though I do not believe it. It is likely at all. That's going to wrap it up for this segment that he got so much for listening so far. We're going to be taking a break on the other side of this Michael Bennett, said something really interesting about his former quarterback and former teammate Carson Wentz. I'm going to be getting into that next as well. Thank you so much for listening so far. We're GONNA take this quick break. Check out the show that's built on the. From the UFC, two extreme cage biting, they got the fights covered. Check out the GSM. See M, m a podcast. Get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join US as we've talked to. Some of the biggest names in the. Past present and future when it's the fight game, there's just one show to check out GNC. PODCAST DOT COM backslash slash M. E. Dash podcast. Don't forget to like him on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Term. All right and we are back. You're the GS. Mc Sports podcast brought by the GMC podcast network just got finished arguments, Antonio Brown, and early on the show also talked about. Adam gays Jamal Adams New York jets. We're GONNA. Continue with the football going on here and Michael Bennett, said a really interesting quote I believe it was on the Pat McAfee show. He said home first all Michael a played for the eagles the year. They won the Super Bowl. I, believe our nick. Foles was the quarterback and the super. Bowl Carson wentz had an incredible year was an MVP candidate that year before tearing his ACL. Michael! Ben said that that he believes and he says that it's a fact that Nick foles is a better quarterback. Ben Carson Wentz and first off I. Just WanNa say respect to Michael Bennett, he was. He's a great player was a great player for the Eagles obviously amazing defensive player. But he's wrong because Carson. Wentz is a far and away better quarterback. Nick foles in every single fashion of the game of football, Carson Wentz is a better NFL quarterback and I don't understand the Carson Wentz hate and I used to think that Russell Wilson was the most underrated quarterback in the league now I think it's Carson Wentz Carson Wentz. Hate has gone too far. In my opinion, I talked about this a little bit last episode with overrated underrated NFL QB's. Going to get I'm GonNa really do a deep dive and the Carson Wentz right here. Carson Wentz as an NFL starter is thirty, two and twenty four. He is a career completion percentage of sixty four percent career. Total yards is fourteen, thousand, one, hundred, ninety, one ninety seven touchdowns to only thirty five interceptions, almost a three to one touchdown to interception ratio. Elite. Elite numbers. You cannot do much better than that. One, the division last year, despite his top receivers for the most part. Were Greg Ward. Nelson Aguilar JJ Arteaga, whiteside. And they also led the League in drops. Those three were Carson Wentz as main receivers last year. Yes, he had urged yes, he had got it. Milestone is on the Backfield, not saying that the eagles were completely trashed, surrounded all around Carson Wentz, but they're receiving core was terrible after especially after all Sean, Jeffrey went down and Carson. Wentz won the division despite the cowboys having a better roster I, don't WanNa. WanNa hear it that Dak. Prescott is than Carson, Wentz. He's not some people think that Carson Wentz is in the best quarterback in his own division Carson, Wentz at every single aspect of the game of football is better than Nick. foles and he's better than Dak Prescott, except for maybe injury concerns and yes Carson Wentz does get hurt a lot. Yes, that is a potential concern going forward with his career. But, that is something that is out of his control. He cannot control how his body reacts to hints. He is not frail by any stretch of the imagination. I kind of compare him to Brett Farve the way he used to play that gunsmiths longer take those big hits to make play mentality in. Does it get Carson Wentz hurt absolutely, he had a back. Problem obviously tours El. He got a concussion last year. Cheap hit which I don't count as anything. Because once you get a concussion in the NFL, you're obviously done and that's exactly how it should be. But Carson Wentz also, only going to get better hasn't even reached his prime yet in the NFL and I think he's just criminally underrated. He is one of the best quarterbacks when the play breaks down. He is only behind Russell Wilson impact homes in that category. I mentioned in my last episode when it's a multiple read, a play in the first play breaks down usually how the NFL works is the are really. Football works the coastal design a play. It's a play. It's usually intended attended for a certain receiver who runs the hot route and they are the number one option on that play when that guy is not ocean open Carson Wentz his top three in the NFL at still finding another guy at still making a play, still getting a I. Only Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson get more first downs Carson Wentz only get more yardage than Carson. Wentz, really and yes, I understand he gets hurt. Durability is an issue, but that is not the sole reason why Carson. Wentz is in good. Or if you think Carson Wentz is not an elite quarterback, because of his availability concerns, and you really need to start watching him play because he's absolutely carrying the Philadelphia, Eagles offense and really the entire organization that defense was phenomenal during the superbowl, and has been deteriorating ever since they're kind of trying to revamp and retool this roster to continue on. There is a reason why these smart people who own the Philadelphia Eagles the smart coach who on the superbowl? What Nick Foles Doug Peterson decided to move on from Nick foles and pay, Carson Wentz we should not act like we know more and these goodful ball minds. Minds who actually work with the guys went on one. This is not a shot to nick foles. What he did is absolutely incredible. He has one of the most interesting stories in NFL history of going from this backup superstar, and the now drifting in kind of the football mediocrity, and he's got one of the coolest stories ever and I think he will succeed in Chicago and again. He is a good player. He's good with his pocket. He's good with the bucket presents. He's more of a thrower down the field. Throw the jump ball a lot. Nick. Foles is a great quarterback. He's an okay quarterback. He's in that. That tier of the Ryan Tannehill the Dak Prescott, even even though I don't think he's as talented where he could win again with multiple players around them a good defense, a good coach. Things like that I think we'll start to get some of that in Chicago, but that's one of the reasons why nick foles. Won The super bowl in Philly? And what he did was absolutely magical, but if you honestly believe if Carson Wentz had stayed healthy that season, and instead of tearing, his ACL had continued on in the Playoffs Eagles, won the Super Bowl and Carson, wentz would have won most valuable player. That's exactly what would. Would have happened and I think that we underestimate that. I think we underestimate the narrative of Carson wentz versus Knicks versus Nick foles. I can't speak on Carson. Wentz, his leadership I know some players, and there've been some reports. The Nick foles was a better leader better galvanizing of the troops well I thought I saw a huge a huge step in leadership and taking of miss last year when every single position almost had an injury last year for the Philadelphia Eagles, Jordan Howard got hurt for a little bit of time Alshon Jeffery went down. The defense was getting hurt and instead of kind of tanking the season. Just playing going through the motions until the season was over 'cause, it was hopeless, Nick Foles, and who was not the eagles were not wanting the division at that point was for the cowboys, beat out the cowboys after having an amazing end to the season, and honestly if you didn't get her in the playoff game, there's a real shot almost could've have that potential playoff game as well. And I think the fact that Carson Wentz is just viewed as this. But like Mr Glass type of quarterback. Yes, he gets hurt. Every quarterback gets hurt. Patrick Mahomes got hurt last year. More quarterbacks will get her and I'm not saying that Carson Wentz will stay healthy for the rest of his career, but if you could guarantee me. A quarterback like Carson wentz with his talent with his ability with his resume, and he would miss two games every year. Assuming those games aren't in the playoffs. He misses two games every. Let's say he missed Carson. wentz misses the first two weeks of every year for the rest of his NFL career. I would still take him. I would still sign him to the extension that Philly did. I looked it up. His contract is not terribly expensive given his town is one of the top five most valued contracts in the league. According to PF, he does not make a lot of money can give his skills and. And I really do believe he is an MVP type player. I don't know if he's a top five quarterback in the League, but you can certainly make that argument. He's one of the better young quarterbacks in the league. I think he's the future of the League and again what he does with his arm and his feet is actually exceptional. When pocket Breaks Down Carson Wentz. WHO's not the most athletic guy when running? You know kind of laterally? He's not as fast as Lamar Jackson as a Michael Vick even as Russell Wilson. He's got more of that kind of scramble around Gunslinger push people off on that. Opera far, PAT obviously. I just made that comparison that Ben Rothlisberger had in his prime as well and he just be. Makes guys work makes guys open throws guys open, and that is the difference between a Nick foles. Carson, Wentz Nick, foles is great. He'll throw the jump ball. There's one of the reasons why nick foles always throws the jump ball is because he thrives when there's good receivers, good receivers go get the jump ball. That is why Nick foles is known as the. Oh he throws a jump ball. He gives the receivers. He gives the receivers a chance he he's always trusted his guys. That's because that's what he does because he can't make it on his own. He can't throw guys. Open throwing is open is when it's when the guy is completely covered. Do you put it in the one spot where the defender can't get in the receiver can and all all Carson Wentz does do that all Carson Wentz does. Does is take Greg Ward. Nelson Aguilar, Jj go whiteside, and his receiving core that led the league drops to the playoffs, beating out Dak Prescott beating Zeke Elliott Amari Cooper Damarcus Lawrence Byron Jones on. That team was on that team last year as well van rash, everybody he beat the Dallas cowboys in you think, and there are people who really believe at Dak Prescott is better than Carson Wentz, did that Prescott Miss the playoffs last year? Why did Carson Wentz beat him out? Did you think Philly had a better roster? Because with all the injuries they definitely didn't now. They're trying to revamp the trying to retool this is this is another point with that Prescott and why? Why so hard for the Eagles to pay him right or not? The Eagles, the cowboys, another one of the reasons. Why if they switched right? I, you know who deserves forty five million dollars a year. Carson wentz Carson wentz deserve forty five. Five million dollars a year. If you think the cowboys wouldn't right now trae Dak Prescott for Carson Wentz, you're lying to yourself. Carson Wentz is supremely and far away better than Nick, foles and KRISTA. I'm not trying to discredit what Dak Prescott us and he's got a great record. I'm not trying to discredit what Nick foles did that Super Bowl, but what Carson Wentz does with his arm, his feet, his escape ability his ability to throw guys open is really second to none. I have not I do not last year he made them. Here's the quarterback that made the most with less, and that is the difference between a quarterback, a great quarterback, even a great quarterback to an all-time talent type quarterback, and he's going to be Philadelphia Eagles quarterback for a long time. I don't care that they drafted. jalen hurts. jalen hurts was obviously drafted as an insurance policy. Policy for Carson. Wentz if he got hurt right similar to why the eagles loved having Nick, foles around, but Jalen hurts is no threat to Carson Wentz, starting quarterback position, and he'll really be used as a gadget player as well and Jalen hurts. Elect them as a prospect. I thought he was good I didn't expect silly to take him obviously, but I like him but again. Carson Wentz is massively massively under these stats again. Thirty, two, hundred, twenty four is a starter sixty four percent completion, percentage, fourteen thousand yards, and three to one touchdown to interception ratio. All, he does is win games with less town around the one year that Carson Wentz had immense and supreme town around on the offensive and defensive end that see much the super bowl, super bowl, and honestly Carson. Wentz should have been the MVP of that season as well. That's how good that roster was now with less, he's still making the playoffs and he will win the division again next year. Most likely they've kind of retool Jalen Rieger. Who I like I don't love. Hopefully. The receivers can kind of step up for Carson Wentz. I think they'll get the Sean Jackson back. I don't know what the Sean Jeffrey situations looking like. There's rumors that he might be traded but again. The best quarterback in that division is Carson Wentz. Carson, Wentz is a top five quarterback in the NFC probably a top three quarterback in the NFC. And probably a top seven quarterback in the league, and he's one of the in his own, hasn't even his prime. It hasn't even his prime yet which the scary part all right that is going to do it for this segment on the other side of the break. I'm GonNa be giving you guys, my top ten teams and off the show. They got so much for listening so far and we'll be back right after this break. Are you looking for healthier fantasy football team? Check out the GMC fantasy football podcast. 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List of who I believe are championship contenders in who are not, but I've never actually given a concrete top ten NBA teams in the League today, so let me give you two guys that right now does not east and West. It's both combined. Just my top ten teams a leak and let's start off with number ten number ten I. The Philadelphia Seventy sixers. They would be a lot higher I mentioned this before. They've just never reached the true potential of their team. I Like Ben Simmons I love Joel Embiid I think Brett Brown is actually a decent coach, and I really do believe the sixers have done a great job of building. Building, roster of those three. I. Just think that this year in particular with the roster. They might have screwed it up I. Don't think there's enough shooters on the team. This league is a shooter. Driven League the NBA. Is All about shooting out from the outside Jj? Radic left Jimmy. Butler who is a decent shooter left and they replaced him with Al Horford. Who was an okays shooter? Shooter, but that's not as main game the MO- the main part of out. You know Horford's game is the mid range back to the basket type stuff, and that doesn't also really mixed with Joel Embiid or Ben Simmons they have enough of guys enough. Guys in the paint as it is, it's a cluttered team I. don't see a lot of spacing with it. Which is why have them at? At number ten on the reason why they did make the top ten over some other teams like the Pacers for example is I. Still Believe in Philadelphia, seventy sixers talent I believe in Ben Simmons Joel Embiid and I think that's star. Power puts them over the edge of some of the other teams, so number ten I the Philadelphia Seventy sixers at number nine. I have the Utah Jazz. Co I. Love I absolutely love Donovan Mitchell I think he's one of the most underrated players in the league now I think he should've worn rookie of the year that year. I think he is. He's younger version of dwayne. Wade I. Don't know if he's as good as twain weight. Obviously, the play style the leadership, the driven the sort of one man show I see him for him. There I loved onto the Mitchell and that's why this top ten list I think Rudy Barron. Him are a great one two punch. I do fear that Rudy Gobert will be. Played off the floor in the playoffs as a lot of back to the basket rim, running shot-blocking centers are but again. Rudy Gobert and absolute wall, and he's one of the best, if not the best. Rim running back to the basket shot-blocking big in the League and I trust on the Mitchell law, which is why have them at top ten? They would be a lot higher if my call me had showed me something this year, he shown big regression. He was always consistent in really great for the Memphis Grizzlies I don't really know what happened this year. Why he took such big step back production wise I, think he might. Might be even coming off the bench now, but again. This team is still a good team. I think their top four or five in the West this year again. I Love Donovan Mitchell by Mitchell on I. think that's why I have them at number nine, but there because of their lack of town around him, bow down. Bogdonovich is obviously hurt if he was healthy, that'd be higher to so with no Bogdonovich Rudy Gobert could. Could get played off the floor in the playoffs and the lack of Mike. Conley production I have the Utah Jazz coming in there. At number nine number eight I have the Miami Heat. I, absolutely loved the Heat I. Love Everything they've done this year. I think they're a year ahead of their rebuild process I. Just don't think that they're as good as some of the other teams in the east and the West I don't. Don't think there are a top five or even top seventeen in the league I think one of the defensive teams in the League. I Love Tyler Hero Duncan. Robinson they have their kind of the opposite of Philly that though I mean you have the perfect match of paint players and shooters Bam a bio Jimmy Butler for the pain and then shooters Dunkin Robinson Tyler. Hero, some other guys Kelly Olympic as well Meyers Leonard. That allows them to have a perfect blend. Just think there a year or two away just for those young guys to develop or like a piece or two away from championship contender like I've mentioned in due to their lack of playoff experience, the heat of the playoffs a ton in the last twenty years ever since they've been kind of created, but a lot of players on this team do not have the play-off experience. It's really just Jimmy Butler. Goran dragic down. Has Some guys like that? Otherwise I would have them a little bit higher I. Think they're just a year or two piece or two away I. Think Tyler Hero Duncan Robinson Kendrick non. They're all still pretty raw talented guys, so I have them coming in at number eight at number seven I have the Denver Nuggets. One of my favorite players in the league is job each. He's one of the best and most fun centers to watch. He's lost A. A ton away. I don't know if you guys have seen the pictures recently circulating around social media in looks like he's dropped thirty five plus pounds is what people have been saying. He looks like a completely different human being. It's going to be kinda crazy to see if jobs will show off some of know more true athleticism now that he's in better shape, which would be absolutely crazy. 'cause right now joke is probably. The best or second best shooting big in the league best, Passing League in the best passing big in the League by far his issue, always been kind of like stamina shade conditioning things like that, and it's kind of lack of athleticism has kind of health in back from being one of the top five players in the NBA versus what he is now, which is probably a top ten to twelve player in the NBA. But, if jokes you know since he's lost, this weight has kind of showing like been hiding athleticism from us now he runs the floor. He dunks things like dad grabbed more rebounds. He could be a really special plan. This league inaccurate catapult nuggets up to contender level. I love other priests about the nuggets as well love Jamie Murray. I think he's one of the most underrated point guards in the league as well, but again the main I like Mike Malone. The coaches well joke itches, really the face of the franchise there in Denver and that's why haven't met number seven. He's the modern MBA. Big that you want. When building a franchise around there's a lot of players that want build a franchise around job, which is definitely up there just because of his pure passing ability shooting ability things like that, and who knows if we'll see a new and improved Yokich once the Orlando bubble kicks off July thirtieth at number six I have the Toronto Raptors. Leonard were still on the team. That would be a completely different story. They'd probably be up there and the top three I love everything about the raptors. I Love Nick. Nurse I love Pascal Siaka Fred. Family took a huge jump this year I just don't see Pascal Siachen being the best player on a championship team. I think he's a fantastic co-star. A. B. to somebody's a rob into somebody's Batman something like that, and that's what he was for Kawhi Leonard. In is obviously why I worked out so well. In Toronto, the obviously won the championship Game Nick. Nurse should definitely get. Some coach of the year votes yard at last year. I think the does the best defensive team, the League number, one and number two on May. The Lakers are up there as well clippers to box but the way that the raptors play at home. Especially, they're going to be a tough out in the playoffs. I just think they do lack a little bit of star power in comparison to some of the other teams I mentioned above them so the Toronto. TORONTO. Raptors are coming in there at number six and number five. I have the Houston Rockets. James Harden Russell. Westbrook well talked about at length on this show again I think it's a big proved playoffs or both harden and Westbrook. They have that narrative that they are not clutch in the playoffs that they don't win the big game that they don't perform at the biggest stage now. I think they have a chance to kind of disprove that this year with two birds with one stone Houston to a Western Conference finals. Especially they don't. Don't have to win a championship that narrative, but I WANNA see James. Harden and Russell Westbrook when a game seven on the road or even at home, or they're just anybody really at Nana game seven level. We've seen James Harden throw up these incredible numbers. You know thirty eight thirty nine points forty point Games Russell Westbrook with his triple doubles I. WanNa see it on the biggest stage. I want to see it against the Lakers in crucial game I want to see it against the clippers again the one of the reasons why Houston! Houston is so high on my list, even though they're not even top five in the West is because of how talented they are. Because of how gifted offensively James Harden is an interesting point about this. Orlando bubble playoffs is that not only the players you know in such a large break from plainly basketball, but referees have taken such a large from watching the game of basketball, so usually in the playoffs into the whistle gets a little bit tighter. Who knows how that will go this year? The might be more like regular season officiating. In the league this year rules could be changed the NBA things like that. You know who knows how these outcome. How these Games are going to be played and I think that could definitely benefit James Harden as well. Obviously, the three point shooting. He's also lost some weight. It appears he looks to be in really good shape, so it's GonNa be really interesting to see that's why I have number five. The Houston Rockets number four I had the Boston Celtics again. The Celtics would be higher on this list. top four is obviously incredible. I think they're the only team in the east that has. Has, a shot of making the finals of the Milwaukee Bucks. I absolutely love Jason Tatum there is a good chance that Jason Tatum becomes the best player in the NBA within the next three to five years in his his. You know kind of replacement of the Lebron of the best player when he retires so gifted offensively he reminds me of a bigger not bigger than length, but bigger and Mike, Muscle, and strength version of Kevin Durant. He can score from anywhere on the floor. He's a great passer. He's a good wing. Wing defender as well. I, think if Kemba. Walker really steps up in these playoffs and does better than he did in the regular season. Then the subjects could really make some noise to make the playoffs love. Marcus Smart Love Jalen Brown I love Brad, Stevens the coach, and it would really be cool. My opinion to see a Lakers Celtics finals, but I had the the celtics at number four again. They're very gifted offensively. I think there's still a little bit young and raw. Otherwise they could be ahead of a Milwaukee A. A clippers. The Lakers while gets a little bit, but for that to happen. I really need Kemba Walker to take a step up and be better than he was during the regular season at number three I have the Milwaukee Bucks I think they're probably gonNA come out of the East I think honest is the second best player in the world behind the Bron James I think he can do everything from walkie, but again he needs to win a championship soon otherwise that narrative that Russell. Westbrook has that James Harden has. That they can't win the big moment. That's going to kind of cloud over Yana soon if he does not win, but again I love the bucks I think Mike. Boone. Hosmer was a perfect coaching higher after Jason Kidd obviously left Milwaukee. If you honest can just improve his three point shooting, he could definitely the best player in this league if he isn't already again. Brook Lopez Kyle Korver on that team I think Eric Bledsoe Chris Middleton, just a lot of guys. They had the play-off experience. Now it would not surprise me at all. If this was the bucks year to come out of the east and I think that is the bar for them. I think I really do believe it's championship or bust? I, think Milwaukee Fans, even the mock you, organization and unionists in particular is kind of. Of Sick and tired of getting bouncing the second round or bouncing the conference finals I think it's time to make a championship to win it necessarily, but they definitely need to get to a championship. Get to the NBA finals this year for the bucks for it to be considered I. Think a successful season at number two I. Have The Los Angeles Clippers barely behind the Los Angeles Lakers I love everything about the clippers. Clippers I think that the rest will do serve them well. No more load management, obviously in the playoffs do more injuries. Everybody's healthy Lou. Williams mantras Harrow. Zubay Cool Y. P. G. Doc rivers, championship experience at coach Steve Bomber owner. I love every single thing about the Los Angeles. Clippers they have really done as best as they can to start making it a clippers town. Unfortunately, the Lakers are still kind of. Of dominating right now, but again I love everything about the clippers would not surprise me off. They were championship team, definitely the second best team in the League in my opinion and I am expecting a western. Conference finals matchup with the number one team in the league. In my opinion, the Los Angeles Lakers is their year I've mentioned this time and time again. The stars are aligning for the Lakers to finally get. Get back to the top finally NBA Championship. They have the best player in the World Lebron James One of the best players in the World Anthony Davis on avery. Bradley actually announced that he was not going to be coming back this year. That's kind of a big hit. An almost meeting me have the clippers number one but I do think Lebron James will pull through without neighboring Bradley I think they'll sign somebody. Somebody like Jr Smith, in my opinion, to take over that role, Dion waiters was obviously acquired right before kind of the shutdown happened. So who knows what he will look like when they get back, so they do have some more shooting around the Brown now. That has always been the bronze thing driving kicking. He's reinvented himself this year. As a point guard, I think take even more assertive assertiveness with the offense. Offense wants to the playoffs starts at will really be too. If you thought it was a two man game now up with ad and Lebron which use the playoffs when it just pick and roll after picking mobile does too, and it is so deadly and so hard for other teams to contain I. think The Los Angeles Lakers are going to win the championship this year again like I've said the stars are lining and. and. They are my number one team in the NBA that is going to wrap it up this episode. Thank you guys so much for listening. 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At the Podium: The NFL100 Snubs Carson Wentz

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At the Podium: The NFL100 Snubs Carson Wentz

"Hey there podcast pals, I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball season is one hundred and sixty two games long, and there's no way you can watch all those games. So make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze rozier subscribe on Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP. Hello. Beating Green Nation and welcome back to another edition of at the podium. I'm your host John. Stolen. So you can follow me on twitter at John Stolnis and coming up here in just a few seconds we're going to hear from Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz who came to to training camp looking all swallow. Been hitting the weight room obviously this off season and we're going to hear what Carson had to say he had some interesting things to say about this upcoming NFL season as it relates to the corona virus and some of the challenges that lie ahead for the Eagles and the rest of the NFL and talk a little bit about his experience with some of his wide receivers, his first impressions with some of the young guys we're GonNa get to all that coming up here in just a few minutes but before we do that I, WanNa talk to you about something. Stupid. Just, GonNa come right out and tell you this is stupid. Top One hundred lists lists in general they can be fun sometimes but let's let's also understand that generally speaking and and I agree Jimmy Kamsky for the Philly Voice, and of course BGN radio host. I think said in an article that he wrote for the voices this week that these T- and I agree with him one, hundred percent, the top one, hundred lists the vast majority of them are stupid specifically because when you're talking about the NFL, you've got so many different. Positions that do so many different things and the quarterback position is obviously the most important position and it's not even close and you've got different positions that matter more linebackers versus edge rushers in in the like it's hard to put it lists like this together and yet when a top one hundred list comes out, we all kind of gravitate to it because it is something fun and interesting to talk about at a time when there really isn't a whole lot to talk about. But I thought this, there's a new top one, hundred list that was. Put out by the NFL and it's a player list. They asked players to submit who they believe are the top players at each position and to give their list of the top one, hundred players in the league, and we're going to run down every single one of them. No, we're not going to do that but I. Did want to talk specifically about some of the eagles that made the list. But what really caught my eye were the quarterback. Rankings and and this is going to relate to Carson Wentz here in just a minute. So again, this is a list of the top one hundred players that were voted on by the players themselves and the big takeaway from this list is that I don't think the players know who is good and who isn't. So five eagles made the top one hundred but nobody made the top fifty and only one player was in inside the top seventy, five and. That was Fletcher Cox who came in at number seventy, three Zach Ertz was the second highest ranked Eagles player on this list at number eighty, five, Darius slay came in at number ninety two. Jason. Kelsey was ninety four and Brandon Brooks who is out for this year came in at number ninety eight. So only four of the five eagles that made this list are actually going to play here in twenty twenty and I don't really have too much of. An argument with those I would have thought that maybe Fletcher Cox would be a little higher on the list but Cox did not have a great season last year. So it's fine. You know it's this list is fine. It is what it is right I mean this is not anything to take too seriously. But what really caught my eye with a quarterback rankings and I would think that of all the positions, it would be easiest to judge the quarterbacks. Light on them. What they do on the field. It's easiest to see what their accomplishments are, what effect that they have on the game is, and you'll notice that when I listed those five eagles right there in the top one hundred that Carson Wentz his name isn't among the top one hundred players in the League and and I'm not gonNA put up a big stink about that. I'm not going to go through the whole but I. Could make an argument that he should not be among the top one hundred players in the League I. Personally think that he is I would certainly have him probably among the top seventy, five players in the league. But when I did my list of the best players in the NFC east, I had him as the Tenth Best Player in the division. And we all know that this is not exactly the strongest division in the NFL. There are a ton of positions across the field with great players and other divisions with more talent. So if if they don't have Carson Wentz in the top one hundred, I understand that's fine. I disagree I think he's a top one hundred player. But when you look down the list of quarterbacks, you have to wonder what it is. NFL players are looking at or maybe they just don't know what they're doing. Their list had Lamar Jackson as the number one overall player in the NFL, the Baltimore Ravens quarterback as the top player in the league. You can make an argument for that. Now, Lamar Jackson has had one albeit great year, but one great year Russell Wilson is it number two on the list as the second best player in the NFL and the second best quarterback given his career given. The fact that he went to two super bowls a row and won one of them that he seemingly. Gets Seattle no matter what kind town he has beside him no matter how he's being held back by Pete, Carroll that he continuously has the seahawks super bowl contenders year in and year out. So you could make an argument for Russell Wilson where he is but to me and I think to just about everyone else who watches this game Patrick Mahomes is clearly the best player in the NFL clearly the best quarterback in the NFL and they've got him at number four overall and the third best quarterback in the League. Folks this isn't this isn't even a ballgame Patrick Mahomes is far and away the top quarterback in the League Lamar Jackson has to do it for more than one year before you make him the number one guy before you put him ahead of Patrick Mahomes, I would have I'd probably have Lamar, Jackson blow, Russell Wilson to its Mahomes Wilson Jackson for me is the top three quarterbacks in the NFL. It's it's unfathomable given what mahomes did in the super. Bowl. That, you don't have him at number one overall his first two seasons in the League have been historic it's beyond bonkers but here's how the rest of the quarterbacks went down and here's where the Carson Wentz stuff comes into play drew brees at number four. That's fine. Number Four quarterback number twelve overall Tom Brady at number five. Did you see him play last year? I. Mean I know that he's the greatest of all time but it number fourteen overall the fourteenth best player in the League number five quarterback. Maybe that'll be justified by the talent around him in Tampa Bay this year but it sure does look like Tom Brady is on the downside and I, don't know how you have him as a top five quarterback right now you've Aaron. Rodgers at number six, overall number six, number six, quarterback number sixteen overall is Aaron Rodgers the six best quarterback in the in the league yeah I guess so but you Rogers hasn't done much I mean he s Green Bay had a great year last year and they made it to the NFC championship game. So I suppose you you have Aaron Rodgers here and that's fine that's fine. The Shawn Watson at number seven. Okay I can probably see that. But here's where it starts to get a little wonky folks Jimmy Garoppolo at number eight. Jimmy G. got the forty niners to the Super Bowl. But the forty niners offense is predicated on running the football not on Jimmy Garoppolo sling in the Rock and Apollo had a pretty bad second-half in the super bowl last year and really the the offense does not go through Jimmy. G.. It goes through the running game not Jimmy G. Guy. They have Dak. Prescott as the number nine quarterback overall. I think that's a fine spot for him. I'd have him ahead of Jimmy Garoppolo. and. Then you have kirk cousins at number ten, all these quarterbacks among the top one, hundred players league they they have NFL players have kirk cousins number fifty, eight overall as the fifty eighth best player in the NFL the Tenth Best Quarterback Ryan Tannehill had a great second half last year. It's clear that his marriage with the titans went really well, they hit them the number eleven quarterback number sixty eight overall really Ryan Tannehill Josh Allen as the number twelve quarterback number eighty, seven overall ahead of Carson Wentz cuyler Mary at number, thirteen. Number Ninety overall maybe cuyler Mary gets there this year. He's not there yet where the heck is Carson Wentz on this list. And this is again, it's a stupid list. It's silly to get this worked up over it, but I have some questions one of two things happening here. The players clearly don't know anything which seems hard for me to believe they're playing every week, and my is if you ask other quarterbacks around the League about these quarterback rankings, they would have a very different list. But how is Carson? Wentz not seen as one of the thirteen best quarterbacks in the NFL by the players how is that possible? How is Jimmy Garoppolo Kirk Cousins Ryan Tannehill Josh Allen Think about that Josh Allen ahead of Carson Wentz cuyler Murray if you went around the NFL and you ask them, who would you rather have as you're starting quarterback you mean to tell me. That players would say they'd rather have Josh Allen Than Carson Wentz, their starting quarterback. That they'd rather have Ryan, Tannehill Ben Carson Wentz that they'd rather have Jimmy G. or kirk cousins you might be able to sell me on Kyla molitor based on the future in front of him. But I'm you know I'm still taking Carson Wentz Carson wentz still has a long future in front of him. You can make the case for Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott ahead of Carson Wentz I can buy that I totally buy that. And everybody else on the list Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady drew brees, Mahomes, Wilson Lamar Jackson obviously all have Carson Wentz. That's fine. But how do us how you selling people on Jimmy G. Kirk Cousins Ryan Tannehill and Josh Allen All have Carson, Wentz and Cuyler Mary to. Kyle Mary hasn't done it yet. Is it so either, the NFL either the players don't just don't know anything. Or is it possible that players around the league just don't like Carson is this personal because this feels personal to me. We know that there are many in the eagles fan and maybe some of you listening. Have have a dislike for Carson Wentz and the arguments of their. He can't stay healthy he he didn't Nick Foles who won the super bowl the eagles don't win the. Super. Bowl of its Carson Wentz people again one forget about Carson Wentz his MVP regular season in twenty seventeen and we know the struggles he had eighteen in nineteen and we know that he he had some down. He had some down moments in in two thousand nineteen we remember those those games in the middle of the season where he lost. To remember who he was playing with. It to take into consideration the Games early in the season when he was in position and delivered perfectly thrown balls to too wide receiver. Su If they had any modicum of ability would have gone up in and won the game for the Eagles, in Carson. wentz in eagles would have been often running last year and it didn't happen. It's just mind boggling to me that the that the players would have those thirteen quarterbacks ahead. Of Carson Wentz in and I don't know where they would have Carson Wentz would they have? Are there others that they would put in front of Carson? I mean, it's just it's it's ludicrous. So it's either personal. Or, they just don't know anything which which one of these options do you WanNa be NFL players and it's one of those two things here either dumb. or or it's personal against Carson Wentz. So I say all this in the hopes that Carson listens to the podcast and Carson. Posted on your bulletin board printed out, find get it get a nice color printer and print the little graphic out I tweeted it out. So Carson doesn't follow me on twitter, but now's the best time to start Carson. It's at John Stolnis follow me on twitter print out the tweet that I that I sent out. Post this on your bulletin board, my friend, your US clearly been working out he's clearly been getting ready for the season. He's he seems like he's in great physical place. Now, we just gotta get. Carson, in the right mental place, we gotta get a little chip on Carson shoulder and even though this is a stupid list and all these top one, hundred, two, hundred lists are generally speaking pretty stupid. Let's use them to our advantage carson because there is absolutely no way Carson Wentz should be unranked in the top hundred of the NFL and certainly below the top thirteen quarterbacks in the League Josh Allen, I mean. Come on. Are we serious here up next we're GONNA hear from Carson wentz himself in his zoom meeting with reporters had a lot of interesting things to say we're GONNA tackle that up next here on at the podium. Finish, ball. Truly it is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue. Join me every week along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discussed all the ways, the phillies have hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical dotes and raw emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning subscribe to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together, we'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. Hey, Carson doing. Obviously you have a family now wondering if if you give any thought to the possibility of opting out for this season. Yeah, obviously. Very. Well, aware of the circumstances were all living in It's unfortunate and You know no one when the state I hit back in March really knew the season look look like and there's a lot of conversations both from the PA ownership and just amongst players in how this even look and so throughout the whole time I mean I think everyone's in. The back of their mind wondering what does that look like for me safety wise. What does that look like for my family's safety wise and I was no different I think it definitely the health and safety of my family definitely is different than you know I think a lot of guys that maybe are single or don't have kids or wives in. Those things? So definitely had to take all of this factors in but I feel safe here I, you know I know you never know how this is GonNa fully unfold, but I feel safe here you know it was something that my wife and I talked a lot about and prayed a lot about and we feel good with our decisions but. At the same time completely respect the guys did decide to opt out for personal reasons family reasons, health reasons you know like Markey's good when I talked to him the other day fully respect is decision obviously I'm bummed that I'm not gonna be able to play with him but fully respect those guys decisions I do for a number of reasons. Go Ahead Jeff and then Rob Kessler. Carson. Probably isn't a good second question by only get one question. So this is it. Wondering how you know obviously, it's been a weird off season. So you haven't been able to spending time or any time at all actually with John Hurts. But when you know thinking back to your first season, you had Sam who had one approach to mentoring you versus chase and I'm wondering what would your approach be with Jalen in terms of kind of telling him about the tools of the trade and and what he should expect in the self? Yeah. It'll be really the same way I've always been with you know my teammates. League helping working with nate Saad failed for the last couple of years. I remember you know my time college when I was able to work with eastern stick as love you now. WHO's the chargers and so I've been fortunate enough to be surrounded by a lot of good quarterbacks in You know that's not GonNa Change, my approach to the game for personally or for how help him I'm going to be here for him help him understand the INS and outs in the game of the game ultimately do whatever I can help the team, and that's to help bring him along as well. Robin than John mcmullen person So there's been some locker room turnover and especially in a leadership capacity with Malcolm gone, and you know whenever things would pop up in your your lockers right across from him forever, we would all go run in the Malcolm and ask or his take, and in the time since that's happened, we've seen you take on more leadership role and and be outspoken on things like black lives matter and so my question is you feel more comfortable at role in will we see you take on more of that role issue? I think I mean that role kind of evolves over the course of anyone's career I mean obviously as as a quarterback, you're always thrust into leadership but I think the the vocal side of that leadership role comes with just time for me. This is going into my fifth year, which still seems crazy to say it's my fifth year definitely feel like a veteran now but you know so those things kind of just come I think with with agent with experience and then obviously. Like you said, you know you lose a guy like Malcolm who is very very much a big voice for our team in the locker room and you know everyone had a lotta respect for him. So I know there'll be a lot of guys that are very passionate about a lot of different things and are able to articulate in be the eagles and be who we are and represent that. So I look forward to be one of those one of those guys as well. Go ahead John and then Ruben Frank. Carson just wondering about your off season obviously didn't have the. To to be at the Novacare Complex many. How much were you able to get accomplished and how much you feel? You've connected with your teammates. Yeah it was It was definitely different knows if for me, it was different for a lot of guys You know some guys are still trying to get workouts in with other guys but then it just didn't feel safe for a lot of people to there's a lot of factors involved for for a lot of people I was fortunate. I got Jim at the House and I got space a lot of grass to do a lot of my workouts in. So I've been very fortunate. I still feel more than ready Once now that I'm back in the building and working out but I do know it's been tough for some guys. You know everyone had different access to gyms and fields in everything. So everyone's kind of coming in this you know in a pretty decent spot, but you guys are varied quite a bit and so that's that's a big part of this early training camp mode is just making sure guys are on the same page with their strength and conditioning and ready to go before we. Really, hit the ground rolling with practice. Ruben than less. Hey Carson thanks for doing this I don't know if you saw the top hundred players in the league thing that came out the other day where you weren't on it. Does that kind of thing I? I know you're motivated no matter. What kind of tissue off does does it motivate? You? Does it drive you what was your reaction to that? Yeah. Good question roof. You know you've seen me over the years I I usually don't get too caught up in a lot of that stuff when I see it, you know I usually I didn't see it or didn't hear about it but you know you can always use anything and everything as just a little bit of extra motivation. So you know that is what it is. It's voted on by the players it is what it is. I'm not GonNa let that caused me to lose sleep or anything but I do look forward to going out this year show what I can do with my teammates less than John. Are you surprised by the number of players who have opted out so far. You think this is going to have a big effect on the season and I know you said The first question that you never know how this is going to unfold worse but. Do you really think there's a good chance of having a full season and super bowl in unscheduled. Is that look likely to you at this point? Yeah. To dance at the latter part of your question You know for me I like to look at it as a glass half full and so I'm optimistic that you know we can execute. Protocols guys can stay safe guys can say healthy but I'm also non idiot not. You just don't fully know how everything's GonNa unfold to until something changes I'm going to be here I'm going to be working I'm ready to go just like all my teammates as far as is opting out I'm not surprised be honest just because like answer the first question I think all of us and especially guys with. Either health conditions or family, or you know maybe some guys live with their parents or whatever or look after their parents you know you've got to take into consideration your family and it's not just about you. So I I completely respect the guys that do that did opt out in that will continue to opt out but I'm not surprised by just because the state that we're all living in right now. Thank. John and then Bo. A Carson when you arrived at Novacare conflicts the other day they had video of you and everybody commented how you look bigger. Have you gained a certain amount of pounds of weight and last year going into the season you had you had a certain thing that you are concentrating on. and. Really wanted to concentrate on for your future anything changed a little bit. This year be quarantine is suffering nothing really changed You know for me the last couple of off seasons, I was dealing with injuries and trying to bounce back from injury. So this offseason able to after it in work out a little harder in the gym and all those things. So haven't gained anything. You know insane for weight but I've definitely gained some weight and I really good with with where I'm at. So appreciate the compliment that go. Go, go boat, and then Howard. Carson given the you know the turnover, the offensive staff, this off season how how different do you expect the offense to accomplish? Are you guys able to implement without having you know the grass time in the spring and you know what what kind of challenge will that be? Yeah. That's a great question. As a great question. You know I think for the most part, we're going to look the same you know but obviously, we're GONNA have new bodies out there some young guys that we're looking forward to getting the chance to work with and step up. And coach rich coming in and adding a new element in just with his his ability to marry up the wrong game with the play actions with the naked game in all those things. So I think some things will look a little different but I'm I'm really excited about it. I think it will really complement what we as an offense in who we are identity wise I think the coach really have a good grasp of who we are and how we can get the most out of me and out of the the rest of the sporting cast. Howard and then Zach. Berm. Causing the plane off the last question. With the lack of grass time. This year how can this team really be especially from your standpoint now offense be ready with the lack of time this year. Will first off gene is I haven't seen in a long time. That is a heck of a beard on their He kills I'm very distracted by the beard of the question. But you know I'm confident for us I think the lack of grass time I think that makes it tough for us but I think it makes it tougher for really everybody across the everyone's dealing with it So if I'm being honest I, think we're in a good place just because we do have a lot of carryover with a lot of. The same coaches you know obviously added some pieces but for the most part, the offense hasn't changed and so and we got a lot of the same guys around. We've added some new pieces but I do feel like we're going to be in a good place here once we're able to finally get out there and practicing hit the ground running. At this time of year in some of these past years, you've you've mentioned benchmarks weather. It was third down and red zone completion percentage of one point is there anything as you look at your game or your number? Want to improve upon her own on this year. To be honest the what you just said, red zone third-down. That's GonNa be something I'm GonNa hit on every year you know whether we're first in the League or Lassen League I've really realized over the first couple years of my career that you know those downs, maker, break, ball games all the time and so for me I I would love to see us have more explosive plays. You know we had a lot of long drives last year and obviously hopefully getting sean back in some of these younger guys can help you. Know lend itself to some more explosive plays Maybe we don't always have to put together fifteen plagiarized but if we got to do that so we gotta do So I'd love to see some more explosive plays but really just keep on top of it with third down in red zone for me personally just taking care of the ball I think. I've limited interceptions over the years I just got keep getting better at in the pocket holding onto the ball trying to extend plays, knowing when to say Diane and when to try and stretch play out and we've talked about that a lot. You know it's something I'm always going to be trying to learn Bihar myself. So those those are some things I'm definitely trying to work on. Jimmy then Mike K. They caught some in the past that of the team had you take a look receivers leading up to the draft and allows you to give input on those guys that you got this year and then beyond that what are your first impressions of a Jalen John Quiz? Yeah. As far as input I mean it's always very limited You know I definitely watch their senior class I knew You know a lot of the top names and definitely followed along with that but you know I didn't advertise input especially you know we weren't in the building ever or anything like that but My first impressions is they're all fast. They can all roll About that, we've barely been on the grass together just been really two days now and we're not practicing or any of those things. I'm really excited once we get the pads on full speed out there but my first impression is all three of them. They can enroll their their quick. you know natural ball catcher. So I'm excited for all those guys they all have. You know they all have a great chance to help this team right away this year even week one and so not to put too much pressure on those guys. But I'm excited to see how they develop your over the next couple of weeks. We have time for a couple more. So we'll do Mike Jeff Skavinski, and then Elliot. Hey Carson thanks for doing this JJ obviously had uneven rookie season throughout the virtual program would have you seen from kind of mental side and like a work ethic and and communication standpoint. Have you seen improvement from Jj and what do you think you need to prove on on the field? I've been excited with J. You know he's a guy that has you know I've never questioned his work ethic whether studying or you know weight room around the field they're staying after catching catching balls that's never worked at never been something. I've questioned with him in the definitely carried over this off season I was able to catch up with him and talk to him quite a bit You know get to know him even even more as a teammate on as as a friend but also football. Wise. So I'm excited to see what what he does and how the you know. Grows off of like you said is up and down first year and I'm excited I'm excited for him to see what he can do and I think he's a in a in a really good place and so for him is just continuing to gain that confidence. You know I think it it rose towards the end of the year with with more reps and everything and You saw him and really a lot of the younger guys step up and so I'm excited to see him as he keeps growing with that confidence and takes ownership of that role what he can do to help. Her babies doing well after. Challenged you think now can't be. At a volley. On all the phillies at. Wallin's. Guys with Wayne of the other players how much of a challenge with this is not just for you and each individual Entire Team coaching staff, other teams you guys are are. Very aware that it is going to be a challenge You know it's we've talked about you know a fair amount in it's got to be a professional twenty, four seven, not just when you're in the building now, but it's it's how do you take care of yourself out of the building and you know be smart and handle your business in so we really are all in this thing together We say that all the time it's kind of cliche thing but has a little different meeting this year in the and I'm not I'm not dumb to know. Different ways guys can still get it like things might happen in, so you never know how this is GonNa unfold but you know we're GonNa do everything we can as a team to make sure especially as leaders to make sure geyser handling their business you know not just in the building, but outside the building who they're around what they're going to do So it's going to look different and it is going to be a challenge but I think we in Philly are up for it and you know hopefully everyone around the league is afford as well. Last One Carson I saw you workout this off-season with some of the younger receivers Houston. Here's what that experience was like and what made you decide Usta. Yeah It was good. It was good. It was short and obviously it was still. An interesting time in Texas started to become hot zone for covert as well. So you know that kind of limited what we could do, but it was good work it was quick but it's really just good to to get to see a couple of guys even for the couple of days that we were in Texas a great place to work out when it's when it's hot and you're trying to get acclimated to a little bit of heat. That's. Gene Herb. Hey. There podcast Powell's I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hitting season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation look the baseball season one, hundred, sixty, two games long, and there's no way you can watch all those games. So make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness you could ever want and make sure to check out other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin. And Liz, rozier subscribe Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP.

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REShow: Albert Breer - hour 1 (02-18-21)

"His content factory. We call the rich eisen. Show is the rich eisen show. You don't have a sense of excitement about the. I don't know what you're here for the rich eisen show about how i love your toes span. Lions and kirk morrison boom from the rich eisen show studio in los angeles. Rich eisen brand is really hot. That would offset dot com and now sitting in for ridge. We're ready for any challenge. Here's ben lions and kirk morrison. Welcome everyone to the rich eisen show. I am ben. Lyons in a very honored today to be by the pride of the bay. San diego state legend an absolute beast on the football field and the only oakland a.'s. And san francisco giant fan on planet. Earth kirk morrison friend of the show joining us today. Oh man. I get a little off a win. Joined today appreciate it. Art over studio. Give me a little autumn. Win for my days with the raiders. Appreciate it Love to join you today. Been it's great to be back with a long time since Our our time. That drake concerts yes. I drake concert with our better halves. We'd be friends ever since all good rather how you've been doing well man. I'm fired up Just like raider art overhears fired up to have you on the show because we've got a lot to get into today of course we're gonna talk some nfl. We've got albert breer from monday morning quarterback coming up a little bit later on in the show and wanted to get into some big baseball news. Fernando tatis junior signing for every penny that exists down in san diego. We'll get into that and some interesting story behind the scenes about that historic deal for the young shortstop but but this just handed. I fill in for rich really appreciated as riches. Enjoying his vacation is that you never know what you're going to get when you're making live radio and here. It is breaking news philadelphia. The eagles e. a. g. l. e. s. they've agreed to trade carson wentz to the indianapolis colts. Co lt s in exchange for a bunch of picks kirk morrison breaking news carson winston indianapolis. What say you honestly. This is what we expected right. Let's be honest carson. Wentz didn't have the amount of suitors that people may have thought we know the philadelphia eagles needed to get out of a contract. How would they get out of this contract that they gave carson wentz. Maybe too early. They gave it to him off what they felt he could have been or what he wants showed but yet he regressed in the last couple years and he became the scapegoat scapegoat. We can say all because of the players. He was with whatever it may be just his time in philadelphia when he was benched by his head coach of the time doug peterson i knew that his days in philadelphia were number but then they fired. Doug peterson said they're still a heartbeat. Okay there's a heartbeat left for carson wentz because they're going to bring a new head coach and the way the nfl works is that they'll be the spin factor. It's going to be a competition competition between whence and hurts and may the best man wins but in reality we liked. That's not necessarily what's going to happen that contract that they have carson. Winston is just far too much. And you've got a different option. That is almost as effective but cheaper we knew that carson wentz was going to be gone. It was just about to. Where was he going to go. What's it gonna be chicago right. Was he going to be indianapolis. Or maybe some other team out there who are willing to take on that contract. The stars aligned for indianapolis his former offensive coordinator frank reich. Was there right. Everything align for him to go to indianapolis and as much as philadelphia tried right as much as they try. They tried to say. We're still taking on suitors. We're still haven't found the right deal. No you ain't got no deal. Just be real. You have no deal yet. Had the indianapolis colts giving you a couple of second rounders now. I'm still kinda whisking through what's going on. You gotta help me out here because like you said this is breaking news and i'm seeing that there's a third round pick then there's a second round pick in this deal. It could turn into a first. They're still compensation for this deal. I'm still trying to figure out. But at the end of the day ben carson wentz is going to truly the only team that i felt. He could have gone to to be traded by. I mean to be traded to. He's kirk morrison. i'm ben lyons for rich on the rich eisen show breaking news carson wentz getting delta the colts for a two thousand twenty one third round pick and a conditional two thousand twenty two second round pick. That could turn into a i if you're philadelphia if you're a philadelphia eagles fan if you're A die hard. Who used to sit in the seven hundred section at the vet. I find it really challenging this morning to be excited about this. Move when you don't have something coming back. The philadelphia eagles are still. Don't know who their quarterback is going to be come. September you know it's not going to be carson wentz. So maybe there's some joy there however without having a future face of the franchise right now this morning as this news is breaking. It might feel unsettling if you're an eagles fan. They didn't get somebody back. Like the rams did the rams traded the number one pick jared. Goff got back a better quarterback in there is. They have something to sell their fan base on same with the lions. The lions moved on from somebody who'd been a staple that franchise for a decade. And they have somebody they can go out and sell to their fan base. Who are the eagles telling. Their fans is going to be their quarterback on opening day. That's a great point. You brought up It's it's gotta be jalen hurts. It has to be. That's the reason why you make this trade. Obviously one of the reasons why okay we know that ultimately the contract and you wanna make sure you set your books Because honestly right now the action in the nfl is been very slow right now. Very quiet in one of the big reasons why is because in a salary. Cap league that the nfl. Elliot's which makes it. I think the greatest sport. I mean in the history of sports it salary cap makes it a great sport. It is absolutely fans are sitting on the sidelines. Kirk morrison and say all. He's because as a former player. I never understood it. Because i want as much money as possible when i play but as a fan as an analyst now i get that everyone has a level playing field. We all got the same grocery lists and we got the same budget now. How you manage your budget. That is on you how you manage your future. That is on you. but guess what. We're all working with the same budget which makes for an exciting league. Because you don't have these dynasties that can be built as much as we thought that we're going to crown the kansas city chiefs a dynasty. They got beat by low market team in tampa. Okay with tom. brady coming over. It just shows you that everyone can win in this league. And so i bring that up just because jalen hurts right now. Currently is starting quarterback for the philadelphia. Eagles could they go out and draft a quarterback they get a guy absolutely but right now from what i saw last year last season. Twenty twenty jalen hurts is going to be the starter. It'd be hard to beat him out. I think philadelphia fans saw that when he went out there he passed the test like when he went out there and again you like oh wait. Wait that that looks different. Wait wait wait wait. I want more of this guy. I liked this guy and you saw that. There was times where we may have a future in this which may carson wicks carson wentz expendable so right now currently as it sits the philadelphia. Eagles quarterback is is jalen hurts. But i think what you brought up a great point though. Is that because this is what we're going to do. And i have my red marker out yet. My red sharpie out yet because we're going to grade. The trade like who won was an a trade betray. Who won the trade. Was it the golf trade and stafford or was the trade that carson wentz philadelphia got in return like who is going to cause. There's gonna be some criticism behind this trough. Because remember we forget in twenty sixteen the draft capital in which the philadelphia eagles spent the los angeles. Rams spit to get these number. One number two overall quarterbacks and just five years later baluch was happened to both franchises since the philadelphia eagles have won a super bowl. The los angeles rams have been to the super bowl at the benefit of carson wentz. Not well look. It's an entire season and for for that first. Two thirds of it had him rolling. But you're absolutely right. I think that's part of the reason why it didn't work out long-term in it never would work out long-term for carson wentz and philadelphia when you're part of it but not really a part of it. It's just awkward. An awkward doesn't lead to success. And i think with the philadelphia eagles. If you're fan this morning and you're hearing the news while you might be excited to move on from whence i think there's still some uneasiness within you because of the sudden game at the end of the year week seventeen jalen hurts really is the guy what better way to have him grow to give him an opportunity in the last week of the season to have a game winning drive in the fourth quarter and and manage that comeback against. I think it was the washington football team. They're playing seventeen washington baltimore. Remember my father sitting. There is a giants fan just cursing sudden it has now become an expletive in our in our household up. But now you're looking at the indianapolis colts perspective on this trade is carson wentz enough to get them over the top in the afc. It's been talked about for the last two years now. How great their defense is how great the line is how how much success you saw. Last year that philip rivers was able to have with them coming in and getting their back in the postseason and stabilizing their organization after the surprise of of as really what it was of of andrew luck because that was never the plan of him retiring. So if i'm indianapolis this morning. So i feel like i got the guy who that's going to be a. That's the big question. Do you have a guy that you think that you can bring him back to the mvp caliber of quarterback that he was back in Twenty seventeen right. His second year in lee in this dude had kind of took the league by storm. It was vania right. We can't forget about how good he was until they wade. County down in miami. More than like when sylvia you know like winslow silva win so vania. I like i like wade county. That one works for i. Gotcha i gotcha. I'm still a fan of many. Would when he when many ramirez came to hollywood so that was pretty cool. But i mean when you have those types of nicknames just goes to show how you can take on the city because of your play. Your play gives you these nicknames. And we're we're excited to see what you can do. And he was playing at a unbelievable high level and the injury came and then once the injury came we saw. nick foles. insert himself into the lineup. And you know. Obviously they go on. They win a super bowl but he never truly has recovered. We've seen glimpses. We just haven't seen that consistent play in the nfl. It's all about consistency. Like we see all these contracts that are floating around and that's great but in a league is that it's all about what have you done for me lately. That's why the nfl is like what have you done for me lately. You sign your name on a diet. Line for new contract is like wow but in a performance based business. If you don't perform you will not be compensated anymore. We will trade. You will move you on. That's the job of general managers. And that's a win in. This situation is because moving that wentz deal and we're going to have albert breer coming on a little bit about ten minutes or so from monday morning quarterback you know moving contracts. That's a challenge. Forget even though the player and evaluating his inconsistent play just from a sheer numbers perspective. Moving that amount of money is a real challenge in the nfl. No matter who it's attached to the the fact that philadelphia's able to do that today with the news breaking the carson wentz had been traded to the indianapolis colts for a bunch of picks Is a big win for them. That's that's what they're getting in the trade but indianapolis thou if they feel like they have the guides and they have it's an it's an improvement because they have nobody right now so they had to fill the position with philip rivers. Retiring if you feel inspire this morning as a cold fan thinking okay. We've got enough to get it done in the afc is carson wentz. Like the game stop stock. You know what i mean. I'm just because that's you mentioned when you start talking about salary make movies about carson wentz. I'm just asking as not telling the carson wentz store maybe i'm telling me because we're looking at carson wentz as a stock right. When he first came into the league it was a stock and that thing was moving in the right direction it was pointing upward. Then all of a sudden we start to see the little heartbeat where we go up and down up and down and that's where it's been any ups fans are hoping that think shoots right back up because they have to because they're a team that he to a team he's not like he's just oh. I'm getting traded to a team. That has not done anything. And they're asking me to come in and be the everything though they're asking him just to be a piece there. Just come to our culture our piece that we've already have a. We've already got things established but we just need signal caller who can come in and just not lose the game for. They got a hell of a defense. You know led by darius leonard a lot of guys where they've drafted now starting to pan out ofensive y for carson wentz that he can finally standing in the pocket throwing the football. Not feel like he's got a flood the pocket or run run to the outside. He doesn't have to go out and try to make the big play. Just make the right play. That's what the indianapolis colts fans are hoping. And look they're in a division that's not gonna there's nobody that's truly scares you in that division. Jacksonville is going to be sort of rebuild. What you think about tennessee. They've been you know obviously. Afc championship last year and they got bounced in the first round this year by the by the baltimore ravens but i don't see them. Being team is just going to literally take off. And i wanna talk about this. This the the dumpster fire right. Now with the texans franchise right now but it's a good position for carson wentz to be in but also to let's be honest man carson. Wentz went to north dakota state. I've been to fargo north dakota Full disclosure been up there. I've stayed at the candle woods weeks right down next to campus. Great place pen to the fargo. Dome one thing. I know up. There doesn't have the say media media attention as philadelphia. Some quarterbacks can take it some ken and for me ultimately this may be best for him. The person to just be able to go play football and not have to worry about what the philadelphia media. Everyone was really harping on him. I think it got to him. I think this is better. This is better for him. This is a better fit for him. Person more so than the player. Been kirk morrison joining the show. Ben lines filling in as well for rich eisen kirkeby here all day today and tomorrow and you're absolutely right and talk about the mental aspects of this carson wentz. He's had his physical ailments that have nagging ever since the big injury and and that caused him to miss the super bowl run but a change of scenery. A familiar face as well in your old coordinators. Now you're coach We'll probably do wonders for him And i think you know a theme to this entire week. Sitting in for rich on the rich eisen show has been player mobility and how great this is for the league. The indianapolis colts become the most interesting story and football today. When does that happen. It hasn't happened since deflategate. So yeah throw when they when they When peyton and mr say they had to you know so all right so so it just it continues to create interest it can can continues to create intrigue. We had andrew brands on top of the week. And he said that. You know the shawn watson aaron rodgers. These guys probably aren't going to be moving and i think it's a detriment to the sport. I think i think the nfl would be even bigger. If that's even possible. But i think you're seeing the moves of stafford and goff and the rumors around watson and now the move of winds really create a football hot stove of football off season of intrigue that keeps fans engage and keep storylines moving. Now maybe there is a quarterback competition philadelphia. Maybe they do go out and draft somebody. Maybe they do go out and get a teddy bridgewater off As a free agent or somebody for a one year gap and you have a competition. So there's a lot to be said for the nfl taking a page out of the nba's book and getting these guys move and teams the fact that both jared goff and carson wentz are already out of their situations is number one and number two picks few years ago speaks volumes to the change in culture. Would you have wanted to get out of oakland. And he sooner than you did to after three is dominating and being a top five staple in the league and tackles. Did you ever think. I'll let me try and get out of here. The crazy part is been. I just wanted to get to my extension and carson wentz jared. Goff both did not make it to their extensions. They essentially just played out there. Rookie deals for years. And in the fifth year option. They're both going on year six jared goff carson wentz so finally they'll see their extensions but it will not be the original team that drafted them. That's how it is for me. What i wanted to leave yet if i can get to my extension money. Yeah that's what the nba is trying to make these long contracts and the nfl has done it but ultimately this may be a wise tale for some nfl team saying do we reward these guys early like the eagles did like the rams did or do we say you know what we let it. Play out but if you let it play out you look at what's going on in dallas dak prescott and the cowboys it's like. Hey that number keeps going up and actually you need that guy. So it's that's what makes the nfl unique. Because everybody does it differently where to get into it next with albert breer from monday morning quarterback ben lines in kirk morrison filling in for rich eisen on the rich eisen show. Don't go anywhere do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work. 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I want to get into it with albert breer for monday morning quarterback because breaking news albert carson wentz has been traded to the indianapolis colts. What's your first thoughts. When you hear that philadelphia is moving on from carson wentz. While about like how much. They invest them. Obviously it wasn't just You know it wasn't just You know like the contract. It's the amount of draft picks time. it was the decision to move on from nick foles when they did Is just i mean for the last five years so many things that philadelphia centered on on carson wentz. And so pulling the plug on that which you know clearly. They made the decision to do that. A few weeks ago. was i. You know i. I think the first thing that sort of pops into your head And then you know. I think it's it's went getting what he wants here. He was able to sort of the annapolis. he wanted to reunion with. Frank right you know. And then i think it's also colts being in this position as a result of the anthrax situation a couple of years ago. And they're still feeling the effects of it to the point where they've got to give up some big capital to take. This point is a wrestling project. So i think it's sort of bundle of different things. In different circumstances that came together to make this happen. Albert emmy honestly. Let's be real like there was no other true suitors for a guy like carson wentz. It was really all about who it was. All about the annapolis cults because of the ties that you just mentioned. Was there any thought that possibly chicago could have really entered or a a A strong suit for the trade or just really about the indianapolis colts finally philadelphia. Saying you know what are this is the best that we're gonna get. We're go ahead and we'll take it now. They were deep in it. I mean there's there you know what i mean like so i i I they were willing to gone the reclamation project. I think as much as anything else kirk it was You know in this case carson wentz wanting to go to indianapolis And wanting to reunite with With frank reich and think there's a lot of common sense reasons why you'd want to go to indianapolis over chicago to And you know we can really just start with you. Know i think the the the organizational structure and where they are You know chris of franklin right. There's going to be there for the foreseeable future. We don't know that about the cargo With the the youngest sounding town on the on the colts rocks. i mean. They look like they're going to be good for some time to come whereas the bears seemed like the window might be cooking him. The number one receiver allen robinson free agent. They have issues their offensive line. And so i just think like a lot of commonsense reasons Carson wentz was gonna do whatever he could to try to get indianapolis and and and. I think that it's pretty obvious if you look at the situation. The two teams were always deeply involved coats and the bears that You know it's very easy to see. Why why why. Why would prefer indianapolis over chicago. I'll breer from monday morning. Quarterback joins his show ben lines in kirk morrison filling in for rich on the rich eisen show and albert big theme. This week on. This show has been mobility in the nfl and how it really galvanizes fans during the off season and creates excitement and really helps the league. In general taking a page out of the nba's book which seems to have such fluid player mobility just moving a contract of the magnitude of carson wentz's in that sport is a tremendous accomplishment for the philadelphia eagles. Where did the dominos fall next. And the player mobility conversation the nfl. Offseason ir internet quarterback talking about sam darnold. That'd be my guess right now. Now teams have called The jets on darnold and You know this point. They've gotten a give us some time. Sort of answer Where they're evaluating their quarterbacks in the draft coaches are right now and You know so. I think going to be part of the decision making process. They feel like there's pretty were taking with the second overall pick and if if that guys there you know and sam darnold probably becomes available so You know my sense. Is that sam. Darnold will probably wind up being available at some point next month. I don't know when. I can't say for sure that you know they won't you know eventually. Get through the quarterback class and say better with darnell. It just feels like the momentum's going in the other direction. So i think darnold would be the next name to move You know and then you know you're talking about is like marcus mariota like you know ryan fitzpatrick like andy dalton There could be available. Someone free agency some by trade And obviously to shawn watson is blooming overall this but you know to this point that the watson situation seems to be sort of at a standstill so i think donald is probably x. Men you know we get into some. I say lesser names after that. I'll breer joins the show. Monday morning quarterback ben lines and kirk morrison filling in for rich on the richeisenshow albert. We know that the salary cap right now is supposed to be about one. Hundred eighty million dollars could go up. Maybe a couple million here there. How does that affect. Jj watt in teams who are trying to pursue him. Because right now. I brought this analogy to to been earlier. Is that the nfl. Everyone has the same grocery lists and we all work with the same budget. But we don't know what that budget will be like. And how can i put funds to decide the gluten. Free stuff's always more expensive. I don't know. I don't know how gluten-free. Jj watt is but with with this salary cap. That is going to be much lower than in years past. Obviously we know what the pandemic. What does that do for suitors for. Jj watt but also for those other mid line veterans such as myself at one time. Okay albert is going to be. I think just an exodus in a couple of weeks when league. You're finally start. Yeah so a lot of it's kind of winding going back to what happens with the television deals at the television deals get done in the next two or three weeks. The tv deals get done. I think it'd be a little bit more flexible In talking about what they wanna do the salary cap and more flexible in borrowing back some future years to try to make the cat flat You know and so. I think we're sort of standstill until we figure out what's happening on the television negotiation and ultimately they set the the salary cap And i you know. I think like you said kirk. They're a bunch of guys. who are i think. Middle class type players Dead are waiting on this and You know so for a guy. Like j. j. watt. there's definitely a risk and take deal now In knowing you know maybe there'll be a couple more suitors. If i wait three or four weeks the flip side is you wait three or four weeks now. There are a lot more players in the market. So it's complicated for all the guys involved and Look i think that there is some motivation for lead to get tv. Deal done and try to the salary cap back as close to one hundred ninety eight point two million as they possibly can Because like you just say. The part of the part of the deal is going to be fall. It's a cap goes way down. That means veterans are going to get caught that means. The market's flooded. That means not only those veterans are her fight but free agents are biased and ultimately you know for team builders is not a very good thing either. Because now you're talking about coming to reckon with some things in your roster that you weren't planning to have to reckon list so I think there's a motivation out there to get the deal done The tv deals done and for obvious reasons. The odds salary cap benefit for the league would be you know having avenue ability and maybe get the cap a little bit closer to where it was. This year is gonna save a lot of jobs and help people on the free agent market. How joins the show monday morning quarterback ben lines kirk morrison filling in for rich and albert audiences on this show and countless other media platforms over the years. Have appreciated your insights about the nfl. And as you mentioned if we are at a standstill you might have some time to unwind decompress. What do you like to do to get away from football albert. Her kids weren't so small right now. I will go ski That's the best way for me to clear my head after the season and You know i. I always tell people that. Like the end of the season i mean and slows down a little but normally we'd have to combine a couple of weeks after the sees nets and then that flows right. The free agency was supposed to track season and really like our downtime. Isn't the end of the season so much as it is. I would say it's slower and like may june After the draft and then it sort of dies where you actually do have time off at the end of june beginning. July so You know it's nice to have my weekends back. That's really the biggest difference now. But it's not real time off so if i had time to do stuff now i'd probably be somewhere of my kids. Were old enough to go with me. you know so and i think you know to so much my time my kids anyway so when i'm not like a hockey somewhere or something like that we appreciate your taking some time out of out of your busy schedule and i hope you do find some time soon to get up on the slopes or even the summer just go for a long hike meditation alber and just kind of unwind decompressed because football. I appreciate that guys. I hope we'll have the chance to thanks for coming the x. games i know in our wants to do thanks so much for for coming on the show. We appreciate it. Sorry beer alber. Monday morning quarterback ben lines and kirk morrison Fillon it's not only nfl hot stove season. It's the major league baseball off season and the news broke of fernando tatis junior signing a three hundred forty million dollar contract over fourteen years. He's just twenty two years old. It's the third highest deal in all of baseball being that. You're the only san francisco giants and oakland as fan on the planet and you went to college and san diego. What does it mean to have. Totti's junior here on the west coast. All the way up until i'm in my mid fifties which is pretty insane. I think first of all it's great and you know. Spend a lotta time down in san diego from your family. Go down and got a place down there so still play. Pay some taxes down there in san diego so my buddy of mine always toby this band and he said if you pay you pay city taxes in that city you. It's okay to root for their team. So it's like. I'm a closet. San diego padres fan is that makes sense because you want your tax dollars work for you just love. The gas lamp is a friday night. Crushing the gas lamp got a babysitter. You got no no worries. A over there at the ballpark right downtown. I mean i was there at the first game at petco park was built right. It was my san diego state. Asked takes and tony gwynn senior playing down there And so. I've always loved to go to the ballpark down there. Petco you mentioned. It's a great atmosphere but it's been sort of did in the last. I would say ten to fifteen years but what it's looked like over the last two seasons obviously with hosmer coming over with machado coming over it and not only his second year. I'm telling you. I want to go to the ballpark just because of not like to see something look. I'm not trying to take a dig at mike trout but might trout is very routine baseball player. He's gonna come up. He'll hit a home run. Who do that. But you won't get you know you get a low emotion. Here near but with tortillas man. I'm going to get a lot of flare. I'm going to get a backflip. I'm going to get an amazing play. Shortstop deepen the hole. I'm going to get a homerun off the off the the warehouse building in left field like they're so many things that can happen in a game that this is what the city needed. It's okay now to bologne. That salary cap means their their payroll out of the roof. They're paying three guys a ton of money right but this is what happens when you get a taste of winning but then also to own division. The la dodgers are right there. You gotta compete right. You've got to compete with the joneses. Now it's definitely a big time move and there's another part of the story that i really wanna get into With you next. Not only taty sign the deal for. Now he's got some people that he's got a payout and unusual business. That's been developing baseball for some time. Now really curious to get your perspective on. We're gonna get into that next. Plus we got la- morris coming up in about fifty minutes right here on the rich eisen show ben lines and kirk morrison filling in for rich. Don't go anywhere. This is the rich eisen show. Welcome back to the show. Ben lyons kirk morrison filling in today for rich eisen and we can't thank you enough for spending part of your day with us hanging out on a big big day lots of breaking news carson wentz to the colts of course top of mind for. We're talking about this. Fernando tatis junior contract three hundred and forty million dollars for the twenty two year old shortstop the san diego padres. But it's really interesting to me. Kirk and i didn't know this about baseball. I had no idea that this business existed it exists in golf where people sponsor young prospects in the hopes that when they become pros and become big. Time earners on the pga tour. They get a kickback of that. And sometimes it can be problematic. There can be some discrepancies. Have how much is owed for sponsoring a player at a certain time. Most recently tony fee. Now on the pga tour was being sued. This fall for more than sixteen million dollars by a former business associate who claimed that he sponsored him early on in his career and was entitled to a certain amount of winnings as a result. Well this comes into play with the junior signing because michael schwimmer. Who's a former philadelphia phillies. Pitcher is somebody who started a business in las vegas. He's the ceo of big league. Advance a group that gives young prospects upfront cash in exchange for a cut of all their future. Mlb earnings totti's junior was one of his guys now. Didn't say about what percentage he's owed or how much he fronted him at. What time but if he's owed anywhere between one and ten percent which is kind of the industry standard of its five percent. Let's say well. Then that's seventeen million dollar kickback on this. Not steal so this big time business you know. What are your thoughts when you hear that. These young prospects in baseball are getting floated large sums of cash at a time in their in their life when they aren't getting paid big time money in the hopes that years later the people were making those investments. While they're going to get a kickback been. I felt like we've seen this in other sports though. Right haven't we seen this in basketball before And there's a reason now we have the one in done rule we've seen. How many times have we seen not necessarily an investment company like this but more soul in asian. Hey man front you a little bit here. i'll give you a couple hundred thousand and you know when that first contract comes out instead of my three percent. I may take five percent or may take this. We see this all the time but what happens is it was always sort of under the table. Now it's out front now. You're seeing people and i saw naming near Deepa desta the general manager of the baltimore. Ravens is looks like he was one of the investors in there. And so it's it. Sounds good because you're in the future of youth but then we don't talk about the guys who possibly may never reach that plateau when it may never reach that pinnacle of their career or get to that big contract so to me. I understand it. It's also you're asking players to take money at a time in which they may not have a lot. And so it's weird for me to see tortillas take this amount on and i don't know his family history in terms of financials but i know his dad played in major league baseball from ninety seven to two thousand ten and i'm like i know he would make him peanuts but i would think i can give my son a little something or he could take a loan to help them out so for me. I'm just always worried about for the guys who don't make it for the ones who take this lump sum of money hoping to get that contract but what happens due to injury what happens. Due to unforeseen circumstances it seems like this deal from big-league advanced. They're the ones who lose out. Not the player. If you're some if the next todd. Van poplar brian taylor. Those prospects from many moons ago. That i remember being a big deal that ultimately really panned out right. At least you get your hundred grand. At least you get your two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and you can live comfortably in train while you do pursue your dreams and if you do fall short well then. It seems like it's big league advanced. That's on the hook. I mean they've already. Invested a hundred and fifty six million dollars into players that initial twenty six million dollar round in a second series of one hundred and thirty million dollars into a number of different players over the years because of the way baseball teams control the early portion of a player's career. It's going to be a long time. Before big-league advance really sees the returns. I mentioned the seventeen million dollar possible commission on the tutsi steel. What's over the fourteen years. So it's big business. The idea of young players getting money in advance tat keep them comfortable and keep them pursuing their dreams in a way that makes sense. I suppose i'm down with it. It's better it's not in the shadows and like you said. The handshake deals that we often find in your sport. I mean how you how. How a player of your caliber ended up in san diego state. I'm not how many handshakes kirk went into that. But he's got to be one hundred ninety eight pounds soaking wet. You're linebacker like oh yeah. Okay right Eventually i grew into a linebacker. But ben this only works in certain sports though right. This only works in the nba. This only works in major league baseball. We're talking about guaranteed contracts. You you probably wouldn't see players like this in the nfl. I was looking at something the other day. I was watching a clip browsing instagram or the internet. Whatever i'm looking at and it was an interview. Given by shannon sharpe and it was adrian peterson and it really brought up the notion that adrian peterson was probably in my. I would say in my ear of the one person that people thought could have went from high school straight to the nfl right. I was also part of you. Know maurice chlorate who tried to declare after two years at ohio state. Could he have played in the nfl. He sure could have. But we know the nfl and their antitrust agreement in in terms of not allowing get guys to play in the nfl unless there three years removed from high school. That is the nfl rule. It has been fought. It has not changed. it will stay the same. But i thought about it. That adrian peterson had he said. You know what. I'm going straight to the nfl been he. I think he would have been successful but think about if high school kids could have that opportunity right. We've seen a trevor lawrence. We knew from the beginning. Trevor lawrence is going to be the number one overall. Pick in the nfl this year. But we knew trevor lawrence before he even got to clemson. That guy will be the number one pick in three years. I would invest in a trevor lawrence three years ago if there was a possibility to do that. But it just doesn't happen as much in the nfl as much as you can see it any nba. We new zion was. We design was going to be the biggest thing you know since he was fourteen years old jumping out of the gym. Lebron same thing like there's it's easier in the nba. Then i think even in major league baseball because you know it within five minutes of going to a tournament that that guy special baseball you may have to wait a while right. You've got to wait nine innings and see what's going on. Nba or basketball. You can go see a guy right up and down the court five time you like. Oh year that he. He's better than the rest of these guys. Around here. kirk. Morrison ben lines for rich on the rich eisen show Here's nick swisher on this show yesterday. Talking about the future baseba- the next The next generation of young stars. Here's my man. Swish league baseball. We need to do our part to get our game back right. We need to keep growing our game right. Bring to the youth right like getting more kids involved. So i think that you know yeah you can say we missed out on an opportunity but i think everybody's missing opportunities right now and until we can get back on track and everybody does their part. You know feels like we're kind of in that that same situation so i think to be able to grow the game globally baby. This pandemic has definitely put Ice on that for a minute but at the end of the day man. You know in my mind. Baseball's one of the greatest games in the world to be able to grow that globally. I think will definitely happen for sure. And he was talking about the london trip to two years ago. Where i saw nick i went with. My dad is big red sox fan and we went over there for red sox yankees nosy huge moment for the game to grow globally for a now. You look at tot tease. An international star. Totti's junior in in a market like san diego. That's close to the border. Like you've got a lot of great things going for this deal's not only is this organization. Big-league advanced investing in the player. The really to nick's point like investing in the sport like fernando tatis. Junior is being set up to be the the next big star in baseball. He's already in commercials and and he's out there in a big way so it's an investment in the future of the sport as much as it is the player. Well full disclosure. I got lord in been. I got lord in My wife asked me. Hey what do you want for christmas. And i'm like i don't really need much. You know what i mean. But i got lured into i need a. Ps five right. I need the ps five. I need the playstation five. I wanted even. I'm not a gamer right. I'm not a gamer. But what been. I said you know what i'll get a. Ps five so. I got a ps five. And they ask you. Hey what games would you like for me just regular sports games. Give me the football game. Madden twenty-one give me the nba two k. But when's the baseball game. Come out oh. It's coming out in the next couple of months just so happens. He's only been in league for two years. Guess was on the cover of the shoulder. Jewish nando totti's junior. I want that game more today. Than maybe when i first got my. Ps five a couple months ago because this to your point this is what marketing does. This is the most exciting player in baseball right now and with guys like dustin pedroia and all those guys who are a little bit older now starting to fade away retire move on taking the game. Back is the totti's juniors two guys who give you a little bit more and sort of play. The game the way. I grew up planet. Been so as you're telling me that not only. Are you a san francisco giants fan in oakland as fan. But now you're a san diego. Padres is basically everybody. But the dodgers in southern california and mike. Trout already hated him. I you know i even got a colorado rockies head done all right we're done with the baseball talk for shout out to todd sees junior. We wish you well. Congratulations but let's get into this carson wentz trade next want to hear from you eight four four two zero four rich. That's eight four. Four two zero four rich breaking news carson wentz to the indianapolis colts. We'll take your calls next. It's been lines and kirk morrison filling in for rich eisen on the rich eisen show.

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Hour 1: Kiper's 2021 Big Board

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Hour 1: Kiper's 2021 Big Board

"Lording it is time to get up with Trevor Lawrence who has ward steak than anyone in history. Says we'll be the number one pick in the draft we'll explain in just a moment. Ben Carson Wentz a lot to say after all that's happened in Philly and our GM says one thing he said should be cause for concern and for the first time in what feels like forever. I'm going show you actual highlights of an actual game being played and it is going to be glorious as we get up with us. Starting right now delighted to have you with us. Mike Greenberg here in Bristol on Tuesday and you know we start. These shows every morning with get up and go and most days. We'll take you around the different elements of the world of sports today. We're literally going to take you around the world for two reasons because actual baseball being played in South Korea and one. It'll be wonderful to see it and to. I think we will start. Getting a real idea of what sports will look like when they start to come back here. So let's do it get up and go something. We waited two months to see live sports. The Korea Baseball Organization has opened. Its season there were very few people in the stands some of the players. Not all of the players wore masks. All of the UMPIRES did wear masks the first pitch in the game between the take giants and the KT Whiz who thrown out. If you will by a child in Zorba Ball which as you see here eliminates contact with any player so ceremonial and they go up there and you have a little high five through the plastic. The K B O is known for a lot of things. One of them is epic bad flips. And so you can expect to see quite a few of these. Hopefully they will not disappoint. Here comes a big one. There they flip those away. That's something I hope that major leaguers that keeping an eye on it and we will see American. Dan Stray live on our show later. This morning is starting this morning for the giants. He went five and two thirds innings. Giving up two earned runs on three hits struck out. Four again. He'll be live with US later this morning on get up so baseball is back. The draft of next year feels that gets right around the corner. At least it does if your name is Mel Kiper. Mel Has released his first twenty twenty one big board this morning and no surprise. Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence is in the number one spot. And he's not the only quarterback awfully high on the list that no foresees for next year. Justin fields is the quarterback. They're in the top ten to kick them Ohio State. You see him there at number three and it does figure to be a race between those two all season long for who will be the top pick in next year's draft and it is a pleasure as always to bring into the conversation here on get up so now we have two years of tape on Trevor Lawrence the number one player on the board. What if anything could prevent him from being number one next year they had not a lot? I think you're looking at it. Maybe just in the fields emerges I think. Trevor just basically get back what he was doing. Prior those final four games remember. He struggled against Ohio. State until Sean Wade was eliminated from the game objective for that targeting when it hit that looked like it was benign. But Hey I get it. Okay but wade was a key guy and then after that. Trevor Lawrence GonNa WanNa roll. Lsu game about forty eight percent so you can finish strong struggled early member five interceptions early on with around fifty six percent in two of those three games so the even from start to finish. I think then he could Agile Justin feels. It's a two horse race trae Lance North Dakota state is GonNa be very interesting to watch from the one. Aa Ranks North Dakota State Greenie but right now I put Trevor Lawrence at one because of his overall body of work over the first two years of Clemson. I want to get to those other guys but very quickly had trevor Lawrence eligible if there had been some mystical magical change in the rules and Trevor Lawrence had been eligible this year's draft. Who WOULD HAVE GOTTEN NUMBER ONE? Joe Borough no doubt and they at argues the point differently. I don't get it. How can how can you see those two on the field? That final game Joe. Borough wouldn't have gone number one over. Trevor Lawrence Concerning Lawrence was struggling and the game prior that against Ohio State. Until I say Sean Way left that football game and that game turn so I think no no question Joe Borough would have been a lot. Guaranteed to be the number one. Pick the BENGALS and and Trevor High on very high. You would've liked to seen him finish stronger and that's the key. Obviously this year. How does feels? And how does Lawrence do from start to finish because Justin feels has a ton of talent? Yeah a little bit more about him if we can. The quarterback at Ohio State had a monstrous year last year. For those who haven't seen a lot of what is Justin field looking like the next level. Well think about what he was able to do. This first year at Ohio state first year is a full time starter here. He goes out in the forty eight touchdowns. Three picks he's flawless. A lot of gave rushing the football you have given that threat ability while others rushing touch. Now he does lose four of his top six receiving entities and his top running back j Dobbins a pretty good garden. Jona Jackson a lot of talent. Coming Back Dr. Wilson had great freshman year. Crystal lava was a touchdown waiting to happen and had often salons should be could pretty good month of recovery attorney and also master teague taking over. Jk Dobbin so. There's going to be talent quarterback as I say fields and Lawrence Lawrence loses t higgins. You lose loses four of starters on the offensive line. But there's a lot of talent coming back there travis. Et great running back opted to return. I think the best lineman's back in Carmen over overall these two are set up that very good years and as usual. It'll be two quarterbacks vying for the number one spot next year we figure and then there's always someone who at this time of year we had never heard of before all of a sudden we see becoming a number one big Jordan. Love goes in the first round of this past year's draft. Who is that guy? Next year it's trae Lance the North Dakota state vic the level of competition. You Watch this kid play with his legs with his arm. I mean talk about flawlessly zero interceptions. I don't care if you're thrown against air seven seven you'd be a break you're talking about a guy who doesn't. Komo incomplete passes or not even happened sixty seven percent now. He didn't play great in the playoffs. He was good not great but they all those football games. He gets most of the players around him back. The majority of that offense is returning the guy so he should be primed for another huge year and a tray lance one year member. He's a third year sophomore. That's it this will be a second year as a starter with that kind of talent He's GONNA move way up in this program obviously is dominant that level we saw what a quarterback named Carson Wentz has been able to do so trey. Lance is the name definitely keep an eye on him ran at fifteen sixteen mark? Greenie he could ascend higher and make it a a three-horse race at the top. I should be fascinating again. Mel's first Big Board. For Twenty twenty one is up on. Espn DOT COM. We'll talk to you a little bit later in the morning. Thanks a million as always. Let me get my guys in here. Now I've got Danna. Bama Dominic Foxworth ready to go today and Mike. I want to start with you again in your role as who scouts all of these players. You've looked closely at both lawrence and fields. Get your thoughts on those to go some other Mel when you look at Lawrence. He is a generational town he when he walked in the room. He's John Elway. He's vinny tests verdy. He's prototypical size. He has a classic over the top throwing motion and remarkably Greenie. He's going to be twenty one in October. He physically to develop more so athletically he got outside the pocket. He stole six sixty six touchdown. If I two years he has a high floor high ceiling. He was the first pick draft without question. Here's what's really interesting about just field. I was on Ohio state's practice last summer and just feels goes by and I feel like I'm looking at Cam Newton and the only thing going through my mind. Is Jacob from the quarterback at the University of Georgia? Who could be out? I'm thinking myself. This guy must be superman because when you look at justice fields. He is remarkable. Forty one touchdowns. He's a great athlete and trump lawrence greatness. We may be talking about Justin fields. As next year number one picks so taking nothing away from him in fact. He's game from a prototype. Standpoint makes it more where pro football setting so I think we're looking at two transformational towns and fields and Lawrence Lawrence. Me Is more of the alway. Catch the very type and therefore it he'd be number one for me. Here's what I wanted to ask you about. I find this whole process fascinating so the phrase tank for Teddy for Teddy Bridgewater. He wound up going late in the first round. I remember stink for same and I'm cleaning that up a little bit. He wasn't the first quarterback taken in his draft. People were taking for too. He wasn't the first quarterback taken in his draft. Injury obviously played a role in that. But why is it these quarterbacks that we talk all about like Lawrence? It feels like wind up sometime so frequently getting jumped by the time. It is time to draft them. Well I think they they get high on our list as like spectators because we watch how they perform in a game that we see how well their teams do but then when the scouts get to looking at them and coaches and GM nitpicking. They find things that they like about certain players that we haven't noticed because we're just fans and they find that they dislike about those top players and things change when you get that extra scrutiny. Things definitely changed for players. And I'm not so sure. I think Mel said earlier that he thought that borough would have still gone ahead of Trevor Lawrence. But I'm not so sure that we don't get far enough away from those national nationally televised Games and START LOOKING AT TREVOR LAWRENCE. And some coaches start thinking well but he's taller bigger hand. He's more prototypical. He's a stronger bodies. He has more of a track record. I feel like they might have still been found a way to convince themselves to take lower Lawrence over borough despite the fact that borough had such a great season. Yeah I mean at this point if I'd send you a year ago today I think the number one pick in the draft was is going to be the kid from. Lsu Joe Grow. You all would've laughed at me except for those who would have said. I don't know who you're talking about. These things obviously are fluid. Let's talk about a quarterback you know a lot about and that is Carson Wentz. His name came up earlier. He's the quarterback of the Eagles of course and he spoke to the media yesterday for the first time since the team selected. Jalen hurts in the second round of the draft went said. He isn't concern about the team's decision. I had feeling there's there's chance we want to draft somebody just given the the the way rosters laid out and trying to get younger. So there's no concern for me whatever's going to help us win whatever that takes whatever that's GonNa look like I'm on board competitor. I WANNA be out there. I WanNa have balm and we all do but at the same time Whatever's going to help us win. I'm confident that the coaches and everyone's GonNa put us in the situation. Okay so he says all of the things that you're supposed to say when you're in that situation but let's cut to the Chase Dominique. What one word do you think describes the honest way Carson wentz felt the moment eagles drafted hurts? He had to feel blindsided. I think he's not surprised that they brought in a backup quarterback but in the second round. That's hi that's the type of player that you expect to play a substantial amount. Maybe Start and when you draft somebody that level. Nba Contributor hurts to start. But they're going to get him on the field which means that Wentz is going to be off the field or lined up as receiver sometimes and. Maybe they'll try to move hurts around and do some different things taste hill. But that's still not as many snaps you would expect from a high second round pick took for her so I think Winstons probably blindsided by this decision. I'm sure you can understand given injury history but I can't imagine that. He thought they were going to go with a quarterback in the second round. I mean this is a guy who watched another quarterback win the Super Bowl with his team. He's finally now seems to have earned the respect of everybody. And here's his team taking a quarterback this. Hi Mike Tannenbaum. There was also something else. He said that I know you latched onto. I want to play it quickly here for everybody. This was Carson wentz talking about his experience in suffering from concussions airy stuff as kind of changes A lot of things in your brain and you'll get of these brain so God protected head injury. Something that's just out of your control and it gets really frustrating part that I know the leagues trying to do everything they can to to take the head injuries. Out of it but We as players know we're signing up for it and you know the risks involved. This obviously is a huge subject in the sport. Mike Tannenbaum. What was your concern? When you heard that everybody in the Philadelphia Eagles Organization took note of those comments. And you don't want to overreact to it but when Carson Wentz Shane up publicly it gives you great insight his mindset. He's one concussion. Away from becoming a very serious issue in Philadelphia. He's going to be twenty eight years old. He hasn't played in a meaningful playoff game in his career. And now that he's thinking about concussion. Something we have to take note as an organization and just so we have a sense of where we're going to sport most teams out traditional scouting form. Which has all the orthopedic injuries for now. Most teams have a separate column in terms of concussions. Coming out of the college right. So everyone's taking note of it and when you're star quarterback says it it really impacts your thinking because you know if he's saying publicly he singing about a private Dominika if you're a team mate and you hear your quarterback or anybody say that does it. Does it sort of set off a little alarm for you? Know I mean I think him saying publicly is just Letting us in on something that all big about you can't be a professional football player in this day and age and not have some concern for what it's doing to your brain and not being completely sure about that and being comfortable with it. I don't think it will give me any pause as it executive anymore than I would have otherwise and I think Carson Wentz kind of physical or excuse me the things outside of his brain injury history would concern me the fact that he seemed to have trouble finishing the season. I think would be more concerning than the head injuries stuff. They asked him a question about it. He answered it honestly. I think that's fine. Okay it one way or another. We do know that there have any number of concerns there. It's understandable why the eagles would make the move. They did but also understandable why you chose the right word there neak blindsided might be the way Carson Wentz feels as we continue on get up. We're just getting started with could be a very busy morning. Another quarterback Aaron Rodgers got no immediate help in the draft. Why do some experts have his team better than Tom? Brady's buccaneers we'll talk about that. As we continue and again we saw baseball begin in South Korea. Are there lessons? The major leagues can learn right. Now we'll answer that question more as we get up with you on. Espn though we're apart. These days was sharing more so at Geico. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing. Your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing. 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And fuel your life marathon fueling the American spirit might get up is brought to you by Disney plus and star wars the rise of skywalker streaming today time now to resume to a day in the month of May will answer to football questions every single day through this month as we continue to work our way towards the season and here's Today's ESPN DOT COM has released the off season power rankings. Not Too many surprises up at the very top. You see the chiefs and the ravens some of the other teams up there but then the Green Bay packers who have certainly been the talk of the town since the NFL draft. Come in at number six. So here's my question for the morning I bring my guys back in Mike Tea and Nico will start with you. I will quote the Great. Goldilocks too low to high or just absolutely too high and I need to give some credits in Man. Mansfield Balking Wealth For this. Because they want they went eight and one in games were decided by eight points or less. That's kind of luck. And they had a lot of turnovers which made their deepens appear better than it actually was which also is not really necessarily repeatable. You normally don't get as high turnover rate and they have a quarterback who's deadly on the downslope. Brian blog their best offensive lineman and didn't replace him with someone of similar talent and obviously we all talked about it since the draft happened. They never really improved that receiving core. I don't this team has gotten better and I think they over performed last year. They thirteen and three team based on their wind difference so they should have been more like a nine or ten win team they kinda got lucky. Those close games and I don't think that they're going to be as lucky in this coming season. And then you have all the soap opera type emotional drama that they may or may not have to deal with with bring joy and love. I don't expect this team to do as well this year as they did last year. They certainly are too high on this power. What do you think might take? I agree you call me. I'm a little bit funnel that they're so high. They rudes right tackle Balanga they got worse there and he had a receiver and when you look at the division. I think Minnesota's GonNa be the better team so they got nothing from their first two picks on the draft. And that's a big concern. So here's the peanuts. Thirteen three hall of fame quarterback. You should do everything within reason to help him. I understand we're about at the right time. The right place. They didn't do anything to help this team. And I put Minnesota ahead a Green Bay in the NFC north. And I guess now here Nick. I'm just asking you to guess but if it does start to go a little bit south in Green Bay if some of those if some of that good fortune search to go in the other direction and all of a sudden this team is struggling and all the questions come out. How do you expect that to play as far as Aaron Rodgers and the way he feels about everything? Yeah I mean. I think it's GONNA be tough for Aaron Rodgers but I imagine that we might start hearing about if they get too late in the season their playoff hunt or they're on the ends of the Hunt Hunting. Aaron Rodgers playing well Jordan love. They're going to call loud and they're going to call for changing kind of moving forward and Fujitsu like this draft suggests that this team wants to start turning the page so I don't think it'll take much for them to start turning the page and understand how much they go Aaron Rodgers. They can't really trade him they can't really cut them but I don't know what they're going to do with an aging quarterback late in the season if things aren't panning out my t. Though I think that division is pretty is pretty weak. They could still possibly win that division. Let me go back to the previous thing. You said. Mitee your general manager. Now if that team is basically eliminated from playoff contention that none of us expected. But let's say they're three and six. Are you benching Aaron Rodgers and putting the kid on the field? Absolutely not and again. There's a timing of place. They just gave him a record extension a year and a half ago. They can't put Jordan love on the field until twenty twenty two so Aaron Rodgers spell for the packers in two thousand and five Green Bay packers traded up rejoin love. And it wasn't the right timing. They can't put him on the field for two more years because the salary cap hit would be okay. This is a fascinating one again. Two questions a day in the month of May and if every one of them leaves them shaking their heads away necas right now six succeeded. Meanwhile do you know what we had during the night here on? Espn we had actual live sports. We had baseball from the Korea Baseball Organization the Samsung Lions the NC. Dino's opening day in Korea. Some players wearing masks not off no fans in the stands that were still mascots. And there you see. Jura CIMH ski on the mound in a nice Season DEBUT. He pitched six innings. Didn't give up a run. Three hits six KS SIXTH-INNING. This is Superman Park with a high fly ball. It might be it. Could be eight is dino's up by score of three to nothing. And then the very next batter second verse. Same as the first and check out the bad flicks there. We a lot of those in the Korea baseball organization it winds up a four. Nothing Dino's win rallied Peres. Had the call rabbit. Thank you very much along with Edward O Perez. You take a look at Lions Park I will say the first observation. If Major League baseball comes back getting there are no people in the stands. It's jarring to the eye but while the Games being played it didn't feel like it was something that was really noticeable. How about you know I did notice it at all. I mean again I think you gotta give it a lot of credit to the players and to the way that the game went they continue to play with a lot of energy and pride. And and Karl. This is going to be the new normal and I think major leaguers are going to take notice of what's going on in the show and this is the right stage right now For them to do so. So a hats off to the K B o forgetting the started and continuing the social distancing in the ballpark's as for the game we saw home runs. We saw one backflip. We saw really good defense. What was your takeaway from what the American United States viewer will see from the K B o We're GONNA see solid the same thing that we saw in two thousand six two thousand nine and thirteen in the in the world baseball classic. It's all about fundamental baseball. Good pitching location and yes. We saw defense. That was extraordinary. Nine ground ball outs to the third basements combined. They made one air between all of them. But it was a solid footwork. And something that we will. We should get accustomed to sing grainy signing off at around four thousand four. Am after a half hour rain delay and we'll be back at it again tomorrow morning. Five thirty am eastern time. Espn two with Edward Perez. Carl ravage back to you at that. Standing work is really outstanding. By the way Dan straightly a former major leaguer made his debut on the mound for the lots eight giants today. He'll join us. Live in our talk about exactly what the experience is like and what we should expect what baseball comes back here. Meanwhile coming up get up. Does Dak Prescott have any leverage in dealing with the cowboys? Now that Andy Dalton is on the team. We'll tell you why the cowboys are playing a dangerous game angst. Espn GEICO knows. There are many reasons why you ride from the Camaraderie of the other bikers. 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But all this is to tell you that there was still no long-term beal project Prescott threw for over forty nine hundred yards last year here was Dalton yesterday with Adam Schefter on why he chose to sign with the cowboys. This is just the next step for me and I think you know I wanted to join a high class organization team. That's ready to win and And be we might McCarthy whose History with quarterbacks no I think it gives me a chance to come to a new place a chance to learn to help jack out any way I can and You know and then just be an asset for this team. Obviously I bring a lot of experience. And it can bring a lot to the table so I'm here to help the team win and help in any way I can okay again. That was Dalton on. Shefty's podcast Mike Candidate. Let me come to you here because we all understand the game. That is being played here between the cowboys and Dak Prescott with Chris. How high he can get his contract. Up in the franchise tag hanging out there. The I thought all of us had when Dalton signed with the cowboys was of Dak and how this impacts negotiation and your mind Mike Tannenbaum. How does it impact negotiation long-term? It really doesn't Dak Prescott. Twenty six years old when forty games have started. You should be the highest paid player in the League. That deal needs to get done. We've talked about that with that. Said here's what's really interesting. Short-term IFFY Dalton gives them a chance to go win games Mike McCarthy a first year head coach. And here's why that's important in this weird unusual off season. At some point it will be a discussion of who should start on opening day. Because what's going to happen is if doctors and scientists Tuesday before opening day. He may not know the offense. So at least Andy. Dalton is a smart competent veteran backed up short-term things could get interesting here however long term cross scouts the guy there and he should get paid. Just look at it this way two days ago or whenever it was before this signing if the cowboys didn't get Dak Prescott. They were finished. They were done. They were a team with absolutely no hope. It doesn't feel like they are that anymore. That has to make a difference in some way. Doesn't it no not to me not in any way? I think that the gap between Dak Prescott and Andy Dalton is so immense that this does not putting any pressure on deck and then starting to see them with Andy. Dalton is unlikely to me because they kept killing. More offense is still going to be the same so Dak Prescott. We'll understand offense and I do think that despite the fact that debt never gets hurt and he just there to do a teddy bridgewater to step in for a couple of games and win a couple of games to put the to make sure the cowboys season is not off kilter if they happen to lose deck for a few weeks and he it's nowhere near Dak Prescott and Prescott is better than Danny. Don't at everything and also younger and better looking back. Quarterback should have no concern about Andy. Dalton. Dak Prescott is better deep ball. Better short ball that Prentice Dak Prescott runs better. He better under pressure. He's better I'm sorry again. This show I get it I get it. That no one's no one's arguing. Andy Dalton is better than Dak Prescott or as good or even that close but he is a legitimate starting. Nfl quarterback which is something they otherwise wouldn't have had so Mike Tannenbaum. Just talk to me about that and I could see you were raising thought to have their. Yeah absolutely because if you try out cooper rush you're wasting everyone's time you're wasting Mike McCarthy's credibility players coaches so this gives them legitimacy have a real competent backup. The only thing see differently. The Nikkei is this in this unusual situation. You won't be able to see Dak Prescott. Maybe until Tuesday before opening day. So even though it's still the same offense coordinator there will be some tweaks. You don't know what kind of condition he may be in from a soft tissue injury so at least they can be competent under center again. I think there's a huge difference between two. They should've paid Prescott a year ago. But my point is if somehow Zeke Elliott situation occurs where he goes down to Kabul and he takes him a couple of weeks to get ready at least they could go functional and Dalton and I think at some point. Storyline is who starts opening day. Where a ways away from it but at least now there's a discussion whereas with Cooper Rush. You do his hand the ball off. Okay we will not discussing Gobbo. Kabo Dak is better than you're not letting go and I don't blame you but I don't think we're having the same conversation at the same time I guys. Let's put this aside for a moment because we need to talk about a legend that we lost yesterday the hall of fame coach. Don Shula died yesterday at the age of ninety. It was the winningest head coach in. Nfl history. The Miami Dolphins to the League's only undefeated season in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy two reaction poured in yesterday. Including from two of Shula's hall of fame quarterbacks one thing I would think is The number of wins no over the years and to coach for thirty three years to do it at a high level. Like he did it. And you see I mean you know coaches today and the way they are. They're amazed by what coachloads able to do for so long and do it at such a high level. I remember him I as a savior when he came to the dolphins then as a mentor and a head coach and then as a friend and then as a great friend he was the driving force behind everything we accomplished with the Dolphins Roger. Goodell the Commissioner of the NFL issued. A statement. Yesterday said Don Shula will always be remembered as one of the greatest coaches and contributors in the history of our game. He made an extraordinarily positive impact on so many lives the winningest coach in Nfl History. And the only one to lead a team to a perfect season coach. Shula lived in unparalleled. Football life is iconic legacy will endure through his family and continue to inspire generations to come. I'll have a little less. I on this a little later this morning but I wanted to bring Jeff Darlington in here as well because Jeff spent a lot of time around Don Shula and I saw some of the stories. You were tweeting. Yesterday were fascinating. Could you share one or two of those sure? I mean look first of all we should point out like I love Don Shula. This guy especially in the later years was such a warm classy affectionate person but but back when he was coaching. The dolphins when you talk to like the former dolphins players they'll tell you that he was not an easy guy to coach for in fact. Here's a good one yesterday talking to Kim Bo. Camper this is one I haven't told yet so back at Saint Thomas Aquinas for the to train. They'd have like one hundred twenty guys out there. They basically be cutting guys. There was no cap to the Rosser so one morning. This Guy Sleeps in and he wasn't going to make the roster but he sleeps in and midway through practice he's trying to find a way onto the field so he actually cuts through like the woods behind the practice field and climbs over a fence and comes out there and tries to seek into the huddle without seeing him so like three offensive downs. Go by and he snuck into the huddle at this point. He's feeling himself like man. I can't believe I got away with this three or four downs in Ghost. Hey let's call him John Smith. Hey John Smith I see you. I saw you and your cut off this field right now. So Johnny Smith gets cut and starts to walk toward the locker room so says no no no John Smith. You're going back the way you came. He makes John Smith Climb back over the vents and go through the woods to get back to the locker room. That was done. Shula us a great guy but you did not want to mess with that man. That's that's a an extraordinary story. Mike t you were down there in Miami for several years in recent years what experience you have with Don Shula the word I would use his. He was revered. What's unusual about the situation in Miami is? There's tons of former players in the area. Obviously with the weather a lot of players retired down here so the interaction he had with the NAP. Moore's and the Dan Marino's the bog greasy that was authentic. It was way more than the player coach dynamic. He was revered. He was a father figure to countless players. Lives and those are things that way beyond the three hundred and forty seven wins that people. I was very fortunate to see firsthand. What he meant to these players years decades later at the interesting aspect was going back. He addressed the rookies a number of years ago. And I'm seeing the back of the room and it was remarkable. The presidency had even as gone on in life. He really hit all the stories about his presence. And being an authoritative figure. I saw firsthand so he gets all the credit he deserves going down. And it's only a world class coach but a World Class Mentor and Parent and I was very privileged to be around for a couple of years. You have to have the relationships that he maintained what those players all through the rest of their lives. And I mean like I've done a lot of dinners as Mike. T totally has as well with these former dolphins greats. Whether it's Marino or rose or Kim Bo camper and like every time you get around these guys all they wind up doing is telling stories and it always ends in this great laughter. I mean just just story after story. I shared this one yesterday. I share it with you to greeny about when he told me this one. How he's at the hotel the night before a game and he's having an issue with curfew players and he doesn't know what to do about it so before he goes to bed he takes a football down to the valet driver with a sharpie and he hands the Valet Guy. One hundred bucks and he says any of my players. Come through this door after midnight. I want you to have them autograph the ball so the next morning. He gets on the bus as they're heading to the game and he takes the football out and he reads all of the names off of the football and then at the end of it he says the team. If I just mentioned your name your benched for the first half that's phenomenal. We'll do more on this a little bit later in the program today. He's is the word. Legend doesn't even begin to do justice. Guys thank you very much again. We'll talk more about down. Shula as our morning continues still coming up here one of our NBA expert says. Today's players are softer than the ones in Michael. Jordan's time you'll hear who said it and we'll discuss whether or not he's right with. Jalen rose in just a few moments but first we'LL SNEAKY. Hembo this morning and this one is for neak rich. Active quarterback with no playoff wins has thrown. The most touchdown passes in the regular season. That's the question the answer is next. You're watching get off on. Espn GEICO gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven which means that. Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you like your wife when you forget your keys at work and you get my texts. I am looking for the spare house key. Maybe I can get through. The window. Turns OUT THE ALARM WORKS. Wow it works fast. You should probably call me back. Geico therefore you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents tour back so I want everyone to understand what just happened here so Jalen rose is gonNA join us in a second and he heard the trivia question while he was getting his mic setup. And I heard. Jalen say oh. I know the answer to that one. So we're going to Jalen shot at this. Which active quarterback was zero? Playoff wins has thrown the most touchdowns in the regular season? Jay need this gentleman is GonNa win. Eleven Games this season and a playoff game for my Detroit. Lions Matthew Stafford naked it. Yeah think Andy Dolan is the trick question I think Mathis the trick answer but Matthew. Stafford is the right one. Guess what you're both right. Matthew Stafford is correct. Two hundred and fifty six passing touchdowns Ryan Fitzpatrick his second. Andy Dalton is third. Jail will be with you first. Let's answer the question of course neutral. Thanks question next next like such a bad mood. Do you care. What else do you want next year's worth? I'm looking answering questions here. We go a series of hard hitting questions. Dominique is going to have to answer them whether he wants to or not. I wonder if you had to pick between Andy Dalton and Jameis Winston which one starts and wins a playoff game. I I think I have to go with Jameis Winston. I don't is down there in Dallas and I think both of these teams have a good chance in Dallas in New Orleans. Have a good chance of making it to the playoffs. But that Prescott doesn't get hurt and I'm pretty sure. I drew brees end of his career. He missed several games last year. Through breeze could lead them to the playoffs and not quite make it into a playoff game and I think Winston is just good enough to win one of those games. Okay I like it. I like to pick. It doesn't have to necessarily be this year but I would agree right next amongst the rookie. Quarterback's which one drafted this year. Which rookie will be the first to start a playoff game all right? I think I'M GONNA lose on this one but listen to my rationale. I think it's Jalen hurts because unlike DAK Prescott Carson Wentz does miss a lot of games and he's had two trips to the playoffs where we had to have different quarterbacks. Start that playoff run after that. Prescott got them there so. I think there's a stronger chance that we could end up with a nick foles type situation. I'm sure that he goes hope. It turns out as well because I think hurts is a similar type of quarterback Nick foles and Carson wentz is a guy who's been injury prompts. I think we can get in that situation. I don't see the dolphins making the playoffs anytime soon. And the Bengals have a long way to go and then division to get past Baltimore in the steelers so I think there's a chance of anybody is going to make the playoffs this year. And have a rookie quarterback start. I think it could be. The Eagles were hurt. And I'm not so sure how good they're going to be out there in. La with the chargers. And the one. I thought you might go to just in Herbert in La but all right. I like this one and I like to thinking last one. What emotion would you say? Dak had what one word would describe. The emotion felt when he first heard about Andy Dalton signing in Dallas. I'm not going to with the word. I was Moti. I think the yawning fakes by everyone's flipping out about how this changing the dynamic is not scaring back at all. Because I'm sure he would dare them to start a season with Andy done. I think Eddie don't is a good quarterback but they paid him three million dollars to come down there. That's not even as much as Teddy Bridgewater backup. Drew brees in New Orleans last year. So I don't think that that cares or as intimidated or motivate anyway because go ahead and start the season with antidote and see what happens that got him or not in the same league. I've been looking at the stats all night and all morning trying to find one way to build an argument that maybe. Andy Dalton is better but is better than him. In all statistical categories all situations better under pressure is better with the deep ball. He's better against man he's better getting zone is a better. Qbr is better in the red zone. He's he's more wins he's taller. He's better looking stronger. She's in better runner. He's more durable coaching off their biggest. I think the point has definitively been made and I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you but this is a conversation I wanNA continue because I don't think you're addressing the most important point in the question we will continue with that in a little bit but right now I wanNA get Jalen back in here. Because episodes seven and eight of the last dance will premiere on. Espn this coming Sunday night. Beginning at nine o'clock eastern our colleague Jason has been featured in the series he was on with Vp last night on sports center and he had some very interesting comments about the way. The game has changed. Listen to this I definitely agree with it and is not enough it. It's just a different time when you look at what what what. Michael Jones stood for and you look at Kobe. Bryant Kobe Bryant. Those guys are willing to die on the court. They were willing to do whatever it took to. Flat out get victory. They competed in everything that they attempted to do. It was a different mindset with all due respect there are certainly greatness in the game today but I say that the difference between that generation. And those two guys in particular. They will do whatever it took to win on a bathroom floor and has no knocked anybody today. But there's just a different is cut from a different call. I love that phrase cut from a different cloth and Jalen. He was your teammate. Of course you guys were together on that Indiana team that took Michael and the Bulls seven games in the ninety eight Eastern Conference finals. One of only two seven game series that they had to play during their championship years. Do you agree that Michael Jordan and the players of that era were cut from a different cloth then the great players playing today absolutely I do and in that time bring what happened is you would. How how could you defeat your opponent? How could you make it to the NBA? With your intellect because most players were required to go to college which means you gotta be eligible in high school. You GotTa be eligible in college your skill regardless of your high. My High School coach always told me a six eleven center or power forward was once a six foot. One Point Guard which should always work on your game. You're will the outworked. The people that are your age that are just as good as you and lastly physical intimidation and two players embodied that for me that I played against showed a difference in the errors. They're both similar. If you look at their height and their weight the two players are Karl Malone and Lebron James they're listed the same Karl Malone had skills for a big man. Lebron James has skills for Gar. What ends up happening is today's game. We use terms like freedom of movement pacing space so instead of players driving the basketball to the to the WHO and there's more grappling involved. Now people are around the three point line you have the Houston Rockets. Greenie taking more threes. Then to and the League's lead score James Harden plays on the team starts. Pj Tucker who could play physical in any air at six starting at center in today's game so now you WANNA give more skilled people on the floor so you go to Boston. Jason Tatum theories planning to four Kawhi. Leonard Theories Plan for Lebron James. When it's close in time for the Lakers in theories planned to four even though we embodying positions basketball so let me. Here's the thing I feel. I understand what you're saying. We're talking about how the game has changed. I get that part of it completely. Let's talk about how the people have changed. Mark Jackson said Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Would he used the phrase would have died on the court in order to win. Do you believe that players in that era cared more about winning? I feel like that's what he's saying cared more. It mattered more in their soul winning than the players. Today I think the elite players today still have that same killer instinct in my state of great players from the past I think that translates error so regardless of what are we talking about the Great. Blair's today still will be great players in another air however your life in the game is different. Greenie when you don't have the fame you're not making as much money and you're still trying to grow the a when you're required to show up and play. Eighty two games back to back travel commercial. It tests your love when you need money and it tests your love. You don't necessarily have the resources. Today's player has a lot more resources. They have social media to get paid a lot more to play the game but I think the love does transfer but I understand where mark is coming from because there can be frustration sometime today. Would you feel like people play the game because they have skill not necessarily doing it for the love? There's so much more in this. I want to get to here. We're going to run out of time. Jalen thank you for jumping in here. I know it wasn't planned. Let's try and do this tomorrow because I think there's a lot there to get to. Michael Jordan changed so much about the game. And what you're talking about really might be the most important piece of it all. We'll do that a little bit further tomorrow. Meanwhile we'll continue here on get up in a moment coming up. Mel Kiper says Trevor Lawrence is not exactly a lock to be next year's number one pick you'll find out why and because of X. Get up on ESPN.

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From the Bleachers #52: Adam Lefkoe is #TeamHurts

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From the Bleachers #52: Adam Lefkoe is #TeamHurts

"Hey everyone i'm rob stats herrera. And now that the super bowl is here you need to subscribe to the sba nation. Nfl show espy nations. Daily nfl podcasts. That's covering the big game from every angle. You'll get the best analysis in the game interviews with the leading minds from around the industry and in-depth discussions from local reporters in our all star cast of team communities. It all starts. Friday january twenty ninth with our digital row special featuring a buffet of national guests that you know and love subscribe to the espy nation. Nfl show today to get the super bowl coverage you deserve boosting suddenly. Does this strange Welcome to from the bleachers. I'm your host as always shameless clancy coming to you from the wonderful linger nation radio. Podcast never now today once again like i was last week joined by another recurring guest. Turner sports leader reports big time eagles fan even though eagles fans might not realize it. Adam love go. Thanks for coming back on from the bleachers important to come on from the bleachers because i need to speak to the sensible eagles fans i had people in my mentioned saying that i was a casual that i came around only because of the super bowl even though for bleacher report i host podcast with the greatest running back in the history of the eagles brian westbrook. I was told that. Oh adam doesn't even want to have a black co host. Meanwhile it's brian westbrook. I that video. That i i just just give everyone everyone a background. I yeah. please go for friday recording this monday night. So this past friday was nick. Serianni new eagles head coaches derogatory. Press conference obviously everyone who sees it. You could be critical of could be kind of understanding but it was undeniably awkward. And he was certainly nervous jitters making matters worse. He's in an empty room talking to people. Virtually just kind of a weird situation all around. Just another weird factor. That's going into the way. The pandemic has changed a leak. But adam in one of the many awkward moments syria had clipped a video of nick talking that when completely writer we have like ten thousand retweets or something like that on it so it is at five point. Three million views twenty thousand retweets forty three thousand lakes. And if i go into the tweet activity it is at twenty two million impressions. Three million engagements which means likes or re tweets and because of it people clicked on my profile. Seventy seven thousand times. I was not expecting and the way that the way that you just laid it out is. The truth is the one thing. I wish everybody knew is when a tweet goes viral. There is no planning okay. I started getting tweeted at during the day and people were like man. This serianni presser is bad. I want okay. So i turned it on and i watched it and the part that i clipped out it was not a par like wow. This is exceptionally ridiculous. Most of the press conference was like that. I just took one part where i was like. Well this is a clean forty seconds. I'll just set my in point out point and posted and i posted it just as an eagles fan just as a man. I can't believe this you've got to be kidding me because we have been taking. The eagles front office has word that this guy was impressive. What did we didn't call place. Okay well then. I really can't look at anything when indy. Oh he was a wide receivers coach with the chargers. Okay okay. we'll let oh. He was a quarterbacks. Coach will philip rivers. Okay so i don't really know what he's responsible. Because philip rivers has been there for like fifteen years. I don't know how much coaching he needs. So we've been under this impression. That oh he just must wow with the interview. You must have that sean. Mcvay look in your eye. You could just see it. And i did not comment on his ability to give speeches. I did not. I don't think that giving a bad speech at your first. Press conference is indicative of anything. I don't think i was just commenting man for a guy that was supposed to wow me. I'm not really feeling wild right now. Of course it turned. Into a commentary about eric. Be enemy and the fact of the rooney rule and all that but i was really just putting that out there as an eagles fan going. You've gotta be kidding me like this is what we're going to be listening to. And do i think he can better absolutely. I think that serianni is going to have an opportunity in about four five months to give a much more important speech and that is when the eagles are going to go to camp. Whatever training camp mini campus. And all the players they're going to be talking to each other the night before and they're gonna be like man. How do you think this guy's gonna do. I don't know i don't know. And then they're going to give him the respect because their football team and they're gonna give their coach respect and that speech is the speech and none of this matters but for an eagles fan to get upset that somebody like me was making fun of a coach when in reality as an eagles fan you should be having a very healthy amount of skepticism about everything and the fact that all of these decisions have been made i just. I just think it's crazy and it just. It was the first time that i had really felt the wrath of eagles fans and it really explained to me a lot of what the national media faces and it just. I don't know if you're an eagles fan in you left. They're going just give him a chance. I would ask yourself. Why are you just giving blind chances. What about this franchise. In the way that they've moved makes you think that this is the way to go so i. That's just the way the things that i would add in looking at the reaction from you know the circle of eagles twitter. I'm in and you obviously weren't alone. In criticising sierra both nationally and locally but much luggage is with a lot of philadelphia word situations it kind of reminded me of girding away if you remember when greedy was rolled out a few years philly fans are just like what the f. is this thing and everyone was crapping on it and then nationally people were doing. The same thing was away. This is our guy. You can't say that we can say it. Turn into this ironic thing that became kind of a cultural phenomenon briefly. I think the issue here is with you. You are a big brand guy looking at your twitter profile. You may not initially no birds guy that you're philly area. God somebody proof. Oh now you have. Adam left co reigning. Nba on tnt tnt. Tuesday's bleacher report left. Go show your handle your tiktok candle. George floyd memorial fund fantastic but and then it says you live in ny sit so drive. So i like how you do have a picture with barclay. But he's technically a co worker in that sense so it's not necessarily like all from philly area. Grew up loving the sixers watch barkley. It's oh you know. I work with one of the greatest most entertaining analyst in sports today. Okay watch this. I'm gonna do this live. Let's see if i can get this down. I'm going to go in here. Bang okay take a look. Is that enough. What i just did tatum. I wanted to close the app and then bring a very simple all. I just threw an eagle emoji in there. Is that enough now. Probably not looks weird. Next to the george floyd thing. It looks like rice being frank. It looks like an american patriotism thing mixed with the george floyd. You're right okay. i'm going to delete it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna workshop at. I'm gonna come up with some workshop. I can't do any russia. You don't need to rush right. you're right okay. i'm gonna work on that. I think though. I think though it's look because of all this happened and he really was like i was even upset looking at like the that instagram snapchat video. They made where he was talking. And i don't. I don't need him to be chuck knoll but for me it was just like i felt like we got sold a bill of goods. Where the thing that you can always say about a coach that no one can prove. Is he killed it in the interview. You know what i mean like. There's just no way to prove killing. The interview got hired right right and so that that was. That's my issue. I went back and looked at his whole coaching life. The fact that he started off under todd haley at kansas city and then he moved to san diego. He was flipping back and forth between quarterback coach and wide receiver coach. And he's got some. Ken wisden hunt him. And i think really in the end. I don't know if he killed the interview. Or they called frank reich and said what do you think and he said i love this guy. I will tell you that. I hit up some players at the stops that he's been at some. That are all pros. And i asked them. 'cause i need to do a little bit of research. I can't just media and one of the guys who i really respect. I simply asked him. I said do you. Do you think this guy's a head coach. And he just responded hell yeah exclamation point and i was like you know what man like. 'cause the former players don't need to stand up for the guy they really don and so. I talked to a few and like i said before. I do not think that him. Being nervous is a bad indicator of is a is a true indicator of what his success is going to be but at the same point it does. Make me think about monday mornings. When he's got to get on the phone with angelo cataldi and how rough that could be like. Day could be really bad. Yeah i think back to doug's first press conference in that goes while it certainly wasn't as awkward this this and i think doug eventually got the handle with the median. Town obviously had the great success on the field he had for a couple of years certainly added to that with the one thing i thought was even weirder than the press conference itself. Cell phone. friday was. Do you follow the eagles on twitter. I'm assuming you do yes. They did a kind of minute by minute. Video clips like every five minutes. There were posing a forty five second clip of his commute from the airport to the novacare to when he's in the novacare like the first three that post is swoop at h. l. dancing waving around as the flight is coming down. Fica as if they just hired. Bill belgiu Patriots last year and they just hired him or something if they brought you know it's ninety-three they brought bill wash out of retirement and it was just chose him getting in the limo. Getting alamo the helicopter chasing him walking in the novacare and there were just a lot of tweets of it. It was weird i. I'm not alone there. Other eagles fans were talking about it on twitter and a it almost felt as if the franchise is going out of their way to try to convince you that this is the guy you shouldn't be angry about. The peterson situation. Even though obviously it was a divisive thing in the family you want to stay on and go. Obviously you have to incorporate the fact that he wanted to roll here is a legend for what happened the twenty seventeen season and for holding together a bunch of terrible pieces in two thousand eighteen twenty nineteen and taking the team to the playoffs. It seems like they want to diverge your thoughts. The quarterback situation that whole controversy. What's going on with wentz which we can get into but it. It just felt very fake. Well i'll say this number one. The only thing. I'm upset about it is that it seems that they've kind of jumped into john clarks lane okay. Everybody when somebody's landing on a plane. Larks territory okay. Get out of the way. I will say this though that. I think that my one friend said this to me. One time never assume malice and i think that you are coming in with a jaded perspective. But i i understand why and so each time you see something but each time. See something you're going. Oh they're only doing this because of this. The true thing is is. There has not been that many coaches in the history of the philadelphia. Eagles and nick. Serianni is joining it. And it's a huge deal. And if you were working at the social media team for the philadelphia eagles this is undoubtedly a game plan that they would have come up with with anybody else. That the pre dawn Social media of his past. And all that. I think it's i just think it's the general feeling that we have about this higher where we don't know anything. He doesn't have like a huge pedigree to go off of. He doesn't have the I guess he seems like a good hang like he seems like a do right guy go out hang out onto the bar. You know taught us lot the bar get acquainted stuff like that but in terms. Yeah but in terms of the you know the the presence. That's what it didn't seem to have so. I'll just say that. The eagles i feel like would do this with any head coach at their hiring. One him to show the whole entrance and all that stuff But i i would bet that even they would admit man. I wish he did a little bit better there. I that's the question that i have. Is you know inbetween being hired in that you had a week to really think of it out and it really looks like to me that he kind of put some bullet points on paper and was like okay. We're going to talk about simplification working to talk about you. Know intensity and all that and really it should man just write it out like just. Don't take the risk. And i just. I think it kind of blew up. In his face. I saw he chatted with john clark. Briefly today of nbc. Sports and jon asked about. Hey twitter was kind of going all over. You know saying it in a nice way. Obviously nick isn't tom. He's aware of the reaction that occurred after the video. Saying hey people thought you were a little nervous. A little anxious. Can you speak about that. In whatever way. Clark said it. And he was self aware about it. He made a kind of a quick quick bout kind of in a self deprecating style. I think obviously the did not go well not that any press conference is a definitive statement on the attitude of a coach in it reforming the nfl but having a self-awareness they're having some humility. There i think is key in the immediate. After fact of what happened. That's really the first thing we can judge them on. Is that press conference and day since he said. Hey i know off just like. He's he compared to watching tape. You a look back at what. He did what he did. Poorly did well in kind of just get himself. Ready to face the media. Animal that is no philadelphia media market shameless. The thing that i didn't like in first of all one other thing that i've seen Shutout to dave's perot For looking like he's been engine all quarantine. The guy just looks like a physical marvel at this point. So i'm super happy for dave never met him but great packs on the dude I would also say that the the only thing that really upset me about the press conference was he was asked about hurts and wentz and said i haven't thought about it and i am. I do not need a coach to come in and tell us exactly how he feels and to give away team secrets but i also hope that the young coach understands that the worst thing you can do at this fan base is lied to us. And think that we're not going to know and so my thing is all it takes his coming in and saying listen. It's it's a situation. I like both of these guys. I really do. I'm excited to see them. And i think it will really flush itself out once. I get in the building but to make a comment right now before. I've even really met the guys. It's not fair. I think that's all it takes and and so Look he was nervous. I totally get it but also then it also kind of falls on the eagles where hey guys can we. You know brainstorm a little bit for thirty minutes. I've never done this before. And i know here are some questions that you're gonna get and so that that to be. Maybe it's a preparation thing but I think we've now spent seventeen minutes breaking down this press conference which will likely haunt me when the eagles go twelve and four next year and people blame me while. I'm so excited for that. It's going to be great. It's like when they won the super bowl. Everyone dunked on whoever said. No the win straight was bad with the job. Trade or the duck was nonsensical. He was underqualified is his press conference was shaky and made him seem on qualified. But the thing is sometimes you have to say what you feel. Can't be worried all the time. Getting the blowback. If you're angry about something not saying you were angry but if you have the strong emotional reaction to something especially as it pertains to the eagles something that we both loved dearly something. That's a huge primer. Lives part of our personal and work lives. It's understandable to say what is this. Oh james let me let me just say really quick I am just talking to your audience right now to be like. Oh adam seems like a good guy. I really don't care like for me. The most important and more straight come on as a defense just like adam and i thought yes. You're done it takes. Let's have him on. Yeah there's a lot of stuff going on but like that's what me and my friends were talking about in the group chat. I'm jay different eagles. Cats and i put that clip in there before. I even put it on twitter and my friends are like this is crazy and so for me. I think the thing that i've always loved about being an eagles fan is i. Don't we don't have to do anything. I think that we we went through a lot of times in this franchise where we were like. Please please be good. My happiness is relying on it and for me. At least the twenty seventeen super bowl freed me up to like not be so fearful all the time and we just fired a head coach that gave us our only super bowl partially because according to reports a quarterback that we traded a lot of assets for didn't like him of course they gave him the opportunity. They said we want you to look at other guys on your staff. He brought forth names. That were underwhelming. I read those names. They were underwhelming to me too. And so i understood the franchises decision to move on. I really did now. I would just like to say. Because i'd love to transition to the fact that jalen hurts is a better quarterback ben carson wentz but i just think it's a very dangerous road to go down to be like. Hey member the quarterback that all the players and the franchise said including malcolm jenkins like two days ago that he was emboldened by having too much power and yet not enough accomplishment that we're going to say oh we still wanting to be the starter and we're gonna fire that. Doesn't this seem more dangerous again. Doesn't it seem like we're giving carson wentz more power do i believe that carson wentz can turn it around and that he still has talent. Yeah i do. But i also think it's a more dangerous road to go down. I also wanna talk about how the fact that carson wentz has looked really slow all season ever since he had that leg injury and a huge part of his game mobility is completely declined that he constantly looks down at the rush. He doesn't trust his teammates. His teammates don't trust him and when jalen hurts went in their shores passing numbers. Not great. Not all the time i mean. Dot of the mcnabb's numbers were awful his first year when he came in to replace. Doug peterson those last few games. But at least jalen hurts found a way to move the offense down the field and the reason everybody was upset that they took him out of the game is because it looks like he was gonna win it so that means you would have been what two in won t taken down the saints like i just. I just think it's a dangerous road. Where yes do we want to see it. What carson wentz can do with a new coaching staff. Sure but does it. Also smell of the sunk cost fallacy. Were the eagles are like wow. We gave a lot of picks and we give them a huge contract. We should try to make it work even though it might not be the best decision anymore it really does. and so. that's why. I i get upset about all this is. It's like a lot of decisions in a row. Where i'm going. It doesn't seem like we're having long thought here. It doesn't seem like we're having long-term investment thought. It sounds like we're trying to fix things that have already happened. And that's just not healthy in my mind. You think there's any way they would trade him or do you think show in great either head. Yeah staffer in the words of chris rock. A man is only faithful as options. And so if they get a stafford trade out there i just. I don't think there's any coach in the nfl. Right now that is clamoring to get carson wentz. And i think the only coach that we that they had their their mindset on was maybe frank reich because of the connection but chris ballard is one of the most shrewd. Gm's in the nfl and giving up pieces for that. When you already have jacoby perset as a backup and you kind of can make any move After another guy. And if i'm them on going. After sam darnold more than i am a carson wentz but I it it just all depends on the option. I just don't see who's making that offer. I think we see now. After the goth trade how hard it is to win a super bowl contend for super bowl. Seriously if you don't have a clear-cut not maybe not top. Six top eight not top. Twelve a top five quarterback. Who's either making top money or on rookie deal. If you have a guy on a rookie deal doesn't have to be a top five guard. Just not the way roster buildings go that if you have so much of your cap allocated to a guy who was merely above average seems impossible to surround him with the right kind of talent to elevate that team to a true championship level. I think teams are actually realizing this off season in the coming one we could see something along the lines of. I don't wanna replicate the words quarterback factory. But i think we're gonna move towards a trend. Where teams are more likely to cycle through quarterbacks on the rookie deals in maybe they franchise guy for a year. Maybe even they do the kirk cousins two years where people are going to be increasingly reluctant to give average to slightly above average quarterbacks. More and more record breaking contracts two things three things number one. I don't like giving front offices the excuse that it's hard to pay a quarterback and then fill out your roster. I just feel like it's an easy cop out for them to say number two. I do yeah. I do agree with you though that a lot of. Nfl teams are going. You know but maybe there's a way That we can just cycle through these rookies and keep it low and finding arbitrage and a way to take advantage of the white space in the nfl. The third thing. I would also like to say is that Drafting were realizing is a crap shoot. It is an absolute crapshoot between years of two thousand nine and twenty sixteen. That is seven years all of the quarterbacks drafted that's as recent as five years ago the only quarterback drafted from that span from twelve years ago to five years ago to still be on the team that drafted them is carson wentz. Think about that. So this is not just an eagle. When i write a first round quarterbacks he's the only one and restaurateurs. And so. When when i look at it i also wanted to be set. That part of the reason that. I love drafting jalen hurts is because even if carson wentz did what happened last year which was under perform the be combined. Salary of your quarterback room is still tenable crazy to be paying a backup quarterback carson wentz thirty three million dollars. Sure but it is it easy to handle when the other quarterback is making less than a million. Yes and so. That's that's the thing that i want. People to understand is is hard to pay the rest ashore. But if the quarterback rune is making less than thirty five million. You're actually like barely in the top ten. You know it's it's less than what they're paying in atlanta and indy and and a bunch of other places green bay so i just. I think that you need to find the guy at quarterback and i think that this will be a make or break year and i think what i was hoping for because every report that came out man was carson wentz needs so that's going to hold them accountable and that was really my fear that i took away from the press. Conference is is that coach. The guy that's going to be able to hold them accountable. Is he going to try to win him over. Nba his buddy. Because hey frank reich. I used to work for him. You liked him. Yeah or is he going to be able to hold them accountable. And it's going to come down to the quarterback coach and the oc. And all that. But i just. I came from that press conference i was like i don't know if he's the guy to hold them accountable. But we'll see it'll be a definitely an interesting energy for carson wentz this year Because as westbrook set on on the podcast to me a lot of these players don't know what it's like to go to a new team. He said that when he went to san francisco it kind of shocked them where here he was in philly and every time he walked into the facility. The lunch people know on the parking people noam and the the young players. Like what brian westbrook. And there's a respect but when you go to somewhere else and they know that other team didn't want you and they they either you or they didn't sign you. They know that you're just another guy trying to get on the roster and carson needs to have that made clear to him that you're no longer the chosen one. You're no longer the second pick in the draft. Were ready to build a statue and and the the amount of kids being called carson is rising and manco. That's not a thing you know this. Is it bro. And so that. That's that's my big bike. Big curiosity how does that get enforced going. Forward you talking about the. Oh seen quarterbacks coach hires what do you make them. Hiring brian johnson who was start started utah was on the cover of nca football ten. What was also someone who's known jalen hurts for most of his wife and who hurt. His father had coached at one point. Do you think there's anything there were. Reese initially say. Oh the serianni higher. There is the right connection. It seems obvious. They're pandering to towards wentz quarterbacks higher quarterbacks coach our thinking men that really feels like they're making a move for hurts obviously he could just be great coach and regardless of that. He someone who should be a quarterbacks coach on an nfl team but it's impossible for both siani higher. End this to ignore the connections. They have to these respective quarterbacks. When i read the background of the quarterbacks coach. I got very excited. Because you look i. I know that. I'm a little bit further along than everybody else in my love for jalen hurts. It's it's for me. I'm happy that you're there for me. It's not just the what i what i see on. The field is a guy that is never. The moment is never too big for him. I just don't know how eagles fans could have watched that arizona cardinals game and thought you know what i wanna give wants another try. I just. I don't know how anybody could have that. I don't know how anybody could have. Watched the new orleans saints game. Afterwards i was talking to craig robertson. Who is the linebacker for the saints. And he was just blown away at hurts like blown away. He was like his ability to read and process and how fast he was. And it's to me. It's a cop out when people go wait until they get film on him. I'll never forget after mahomes first year and he wins. Mvp i have bart scott. Oh my podcast and film on him. Now they're gonna catch up and it was like part. You're absolutely crazy. Like i don't like i don't know what people watch sometimes and so for me i watched carson wentz in the red zone throwing all over the place. Never looking accurate. Never looking comfortable and then jalen hurts go in there with like barely. Even a week of rap says the one and perform like that and to now know that the quarterbacks coach has worked with him for this long and a rising star in the profession do i automatically want them to give the ball to hurts and be the starter. No like i am genuinely saying. Let's see how they handle the offseason. Let's see how he learns the playbook and then when they go out there and mini camp and training camp because they're going to get extra time because it's a new head coach. Let's see how they look out there and also because you know hurts is a is still a a younger guy whose body still developing I wanted to be a true competition. That's all i want. I want the best player possible to start for the eagles but my fear was that they were going to bring in. Because i had seen all these other guys a system made to help whence but by throwing this guy in there who look there. He's not going to. He's not going to be super partial hurts. 'cause he wants to rise up the ranks as a coach within the nfl and if if people know that he's bias that's not going to happen but at least there's one guy there that has a that could really bring out. The best in hurts the way that. This team rallied around hurts. The fact that you have stories were offensive. Linemen are going up to the owner and say we need to put in this other guy. I think curtis a physical specimen the the his ability physicality his speed. All of that. And the fact that i will almost guarantee you. This is a storyline that i'm so interesting. In and of course it depends on covert protocols and and people's ability to travel and practice with each other. But this always be the thing that donovan mcnabb would bring the wide receivers down. I remember that was always say. Oh james thrash and todd pinkston working out don mcnabb and arizona. Te'o not working out in arizona okay carson. Wentz is probably going to do something. like that. jalen hurts is going to do something like that. And i'm already forecasting. I'm already seeing him. My mind's eye that oh north dakota dallas goddard shows up oh man who else Jordan mathews trying to get in some reps and jalen hurts in. Like tuscaloosa with nick sabin. And he's got jerry jeudy on one side. He's got the top pick in the draft. Devante smith jalen. Rager goes down there. Greg ward like. I can already see because that's who this guy is when people show you who they are believed them carson wentz in my mind has shown me who he is do i will i give him a second chance. Hell yes. I will give him a second chance. How yes do i think he can go in there and change the way that he treats people an act with more respect and grind and focus on his things that he is inadequate absolutely but he has already shown me who he is and hurts us. Show me who he is. So currently her says the benefit of the doubt. I am still going to give us the opportunity but it better be a battle. He better battle. Because i just in my mind right now. Jalen hurts is the quarterback of the philadelphia eagles and their future. And i'm excited about that. And i'm hoping wentz can prove me wrong. Yeah people will say to me. Because i'm hourly pretty pro hurts as you are. Oh you want carson. I want him the fail my life my job would all be infinitely easier if he was awesome in the eagles. Were intern awesome. Why would i want that. It would make everything a ton easier for me. It makes everything pleasant. What made the fall miserable as it was this past year. I mean that's the thing is it in in my job. I would rather be right than anything but in terms of the eagles. I'm happy when they when they won the super bowl it was it was a gag on our betting. Show every thursday with sims. Where i would bet against the eagles because they kept winning. They started the year like ten in. Oh and i was like this is literally the only part of the show where i'm willing to lose money for the eagles to win. That's how my brain operates that my fiance said to me after the season because she does not watch football she she came up to me and she hugged me and she said i'm so sorry and i said why and she goes. Somebody recently asked if you're doing okay. Because the eagles seasons been bad and i have been paying attention she was. You've been handling it really well. And i was like you know i've been able to like kinda to separate myself emotionally this year. It's it's been kind of nice but i am. I'm sick you know. I'm just like all the other eagles fans out there that my mondays are a lot different depending on what happens on sundays. And so There's nothing i want more then carson wentz to go back to those first fourteen games of that season it was. It was like rooting. For patrick mahomes. That's what it felt like. And he felt that next the next guy he was. I i have a clip where it's brandon marshall and set with me and sims. And he goes. He's the future of this leak. And i stood up because i couldn't handle it. I was. I was like so giddy. I was like we got the guy not only do the rams take off and they blew it. We got the guy. And so. Of course i wanted to come back just the thing that i that i try to listen to his players and the amount of the players that came forward. And we're like this guy is not doing it. The right way It it made me like them less. I have to be honest. It made me like unless because I i know. I know mahomes pretty well. And the thing that i've learned about mahomes is people that are at that level of greatness. Not only do they not worry about other things. They don't even know that they exist. She miss when you. And i watched the last dance. We would probably message each other man. Shortness crazy. I can't imagine everything like that. What a lunatic. He's a psycho all those things. Patrick mahomes watch that any text. Amini goes man. I really like m-. Mj's mentality really speaks to me like it's just a different level of execution. And so when when when. I know that there are great champions that would never lead with ego. That would never lead with indifference or would ever go on the field and purposely do things just to disrespect or just prove your head coach that you disagree with him like i just don't think that's a quality that champions have and maybe people can get upset and those things can happen. But at the quarterback position is just. It's just not a quality that i see amongst championship and we have the to do the sports. Maybe the two best quarterbacks to have ever played. I think brady is the most a i think he is the goat and i think mahomes is the most talented player to ever play and i just look at those guys in the super bowl when i go. I mean shit. That's what we all want. You know yeah watching the playoffs this year watching you know in the conference championship games. It was the first time in. I don't know if it was ever or x. Amount of years. That the four quarterbacks starting were tough five. Were in the top live in passing touchdowns that season and watching those offenses green bay tampa bay kansas city buffalo. It just illustrates to me. How far the eagles off from being a team like that. Encaptures leading the entire infrastructure of the franchise i. It's funny because i. When i first got into jalen hurts after the saints game and i was like really riding high in the autumn. Shot me not that. I didn't think you wouldn't like him but just the enthusiasm of it. I was like well. He's also he's on the bandwagon to i. Just you start diving into what his makeup is. And you begin to realize like this is a guy that people were still thinking wasn't great because his freshman year of college he wasn't throwing that will for him to to have four losses in college to have succeeded in alabama taking them to a national championship in the next year coming in off the bench and winning the national championship and then going to oklahoma where he set all of these passing records and took them to the final four and was the heisman finalist. Where the last two number. One picks kate like think about that. Baker mayfield goes to oklahoma number-one pick cuyler murray goes to oklahoma number-one pick jalen hurts goes to oklahoma and people go. I don't believe it. And i'm like same coach the same system and he's putting up the same numbers and they wanna give the credit to cd land you know but they didn't wanna take any of the cuyler credit away when when he had hollywood brown. So i just for me i i look for like takes and opinions in the ether. Where people are oh. He's not that good and they don't have fact. It's not rooted in observation. And i just felt like everybody was writing this guy off. And and meanwhile he gets drafted and then other teams. Come out and go. Oh man we really wanted. And so i just i put all that together and then i just you know like you watch the games and i went. I mean this dudes catching balls off the bounce and throwing first downs on the run in a door. Die situation against a team fighting for a wild card. Berth jalen hurts. Outduelled cuyler murray and then the next game. We were like nah. I don't know. I just. I don't know i. I know that. I'm a little bit bullish more than most. But i i just have a feeling that jalen hurts right now is grinding and i think he has the talent so Believe me. I have spent a thousands of dollars on his rookie cards. Because there's no better way to get up on something. What's up gonna plug your car instagram. And all that. I have left. Go cards You have been kind enough to send me some. And i appreciate that. I still have them on personal But no i went out and got a one on one. Jalen hurts recently Because i i believe in him that much. And there's i can't i don't want to bet on the eagles because that's not betting on jalen hurts. That's betting on the eagles. I don't have faith in the complete franchise like that's bad bad but for me looking at hurts i just i really think that there's something special there and maybe it's wishful thinking and that's definitely a possibility and to be honest. What i'm doing right now feels very cathartic it feels like therapy and so i just thank you for listening But i don't know i just. He's given me russell wilson vibes. And i'm i'm praying that it could become the case. Do he just has an energy to him that when he took the field even in green bay and especially in that first. Starting the saints game. The vied watching the eagles went frahm. Nail biting omega gonna do what's he gonna do. Oh my god he threw it over this guy's head to all right. He's dropped to pass. He's going through his reads either heads a guy he's not they're toxic runs for a first down. Does a quick slide doesn't get hit. He don't tell you. Need your chest but craig robertson said to me was that was that was i with you about the ingram. It just stayed with. It stayed with me the fact that he says. We face the eagles now four times. The last few years twice with wins once with foale's and once with hurts and the two times that we face them with whence they didn't have any energy and the time that we face them with falls and hurts. It was like playing a different team. They were angry. They were motivated. And so again. I just i ask your audience i mean. What else do we need to here again. I'm hoping for second chances and changes but you saw it is solid. There are different team. Do you think they're gonna give him a legitimate chance to win this job whether it's in camp whether it's a trade for a trade winds somehow i don't know what his value is even if his contract be comparable to golf in almost viewed as a negative asset. In a way. You think they're gonna go. I i think that they both get a shot. I i'm going to give the eagles the benefit of the doubt Because while i disagree with some of the moves that have been made I do think how is a very smart guy. I do not think. Jeffrey loria wants to metal. And i do think that. Nixon honest nick serianni and his staff are going to bust their ass to do it but i also know that they are going to put the best person there to succeed and so I think that carson wentz had a big misstep also when when he got benched he kinda came out and leaked in the public. I'm not happy here. Because that's just not a thing that the quarterbacks do and so the cardinals game yeah. It's just it's not. A good reporter was strange. Strange i mean it could have been from either but it just again the way. The vibe always feels good eagles with. There's something there at. The eagles would never leaked that. You never leak on the day of at another quarterback is playing. You never create drama for your own franchise. That only serves the one promise of though the one the one party which is when so that web sites like bleacher report put up top five landing spots for carson wentz like that's the only reason you start drumming up interest for yourself because you can't you can they couldn't even trade. Trade deadline was passed. So i do think they give both of these guys a chance to win because i think in how he's mit sloan conference brain. He's going the contract. Setup allows us to be creative and could he be most expensive backup in the nfl. Absolutely but as i said to you. Before if there's one franchise that understands the value of a backup. It's the one that won a super bowl with nick. Foles so I think. I think unlike other teams. They're willing to pay that amount. Because of hurts his contract he saw that and twenty seventeen. Were they still had dead cap from bradford's deal. When he was traded the previous august or september. I should say and they gave foles decent shown to be back up and then went on the second year rookie contract. So it's been dying. Looked at the colts played paid jacoby percent. Twenty million to be a backup. You know what. I mean like temperature got twenty three to be the starter at the colts to the start of the panthers and jacoby percents getting twenty two to just come in on on occasional four thousand for philip rivers so hell hell mary situation so It's it's what you said earlier to that if you don't have an elite quarterback you're in this other realm where you have to make it work The only situation in which. I'm okay with jalen hurts. Not starting for the eagles is if they're able to somehow come down with the shawn watson But i don't. I don't think that's the thing because to muses je shawn watson is a top three quarterback in the nfl and so if we need to what wentz and hurts for him. That's the only time that i'm okay. Duin love it out of your busy guy so let you go but thank you for coming on anything the plug a love. The aca left co show. I love i will fans. It's basically an eagles podcast in disguise. Yes it's a national podcast. But it's adam huge eagles fan than obviously eagles legend. Brian westbrook with them. It's just. I don't even hollywood tation with leading gradation they end up like we end up having like twenty five minute segments about like the eagles The one thing i would say is Tuesday's starting Were recording on monday tomorrow. and and going for the thirteen weeks i got mba on tnt. Tuesday nights me shaquille. O'neal dwyane wade candace parker Tomorrow night or when if you're listening Tomorrow tonight Amazing first game a clippers The second and third teams most likely to win the super bowl according to the nba championship. According to vegas i can't wait. I'm hoping we get some sixers games. I am so obsessed with the sixers right now. The fact that they were down and went on twenty one to to run against orth. I just. I was sitting there texting my friends going. This is a bizarro. Sixers team the sixers in the years past would be winning for three quarters. And then below it all in the fourth quarter. Now they're down. And i'm watching. Tj mcconnell laughing and all that and then we roar back with cork mas. Like i really hope. I get to show some of my sixers fandom and i i am so excited that if this sixers team is for real and i feel like they are because i have a lot of faith in doc rivers right now and just what he's bringing to this team and the leadership of danny and seth and how bead looks if this is a real big sixers year and i get to do some of their tuesday games. That's just a dream. Come true for me so if your audience could check it out. I'd love it They want to take pictures of when making a dumb face and tweeted at me. I love sharing pictures of me looking like an idiot I just think it's fun so so. Check it out. Tuesday's tnt just to clarify. Is it part of inside. The nba is before that is so inside sex grace. No inside tuesday. Okay we are the to show so it's like seven o'clock pre-game than we come on because it's like usually a double header then like little aiming beans halftime shows and then like an hour and a half postgame show that goes to like one in the morning so it it's just like inside the nba. On tuesdays with with our crew were pumped blooded very excited to watch. Hopefully the sixers have some games. That are shifting time. I think they're getting. I don't i don't think necessarily call flexed in the nba terms but they are getting some additional prime time games as things go on with. How well they're playing written so we'll have to watch out for that obviously gets a pro Embiid mvp talking. They're going to stand so hard to love. It hurts hurts. that's all we need beat latisha. Sure yeah when make more money. Doing that on the podcast. Thanks rabbi all right. Thanks to agree. Nation from the bleachers are host shameless. Hugo birds taught the.

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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: Is it time to bench Carson Wentz for Jalen Hurts?

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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: Is it time to bench Carson Wentz for Jalen Hurts?

"From labra doodles to grow nuts the world of hybrid so today businesses are taking a smarter hybrid cloud approach using the tools platform and expertise of ibm. The world is going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud. The following segment is from the off day debrief on the sp nation nfl. Show where we are discussing your favorite team. Subscribe to the nfl. Show to make sure you don't miss conversations like this one. So you're saying it's okay to bench a quarterback. Is that what you're telling me why so. Well i i. I'll partly this into an eagles as i always do. Staff to drop down from number twenty six to thirtieth only the jags in the jets lower than eagles now in my power rankings. All the way they're terrible and there's really no easy face and there's a good article on bleeding relation about this kind of outlying in this by benjamin select say on bleeding your nation where the are really tough situation stats were like they kind of are stuck like they can't really move on from carson wentz. But he's absolutely playing at a level where he deserves to be benched. I wanna get your take on it as an outsider from afar. I'm of the mind that he should be benched. Would you bench carson wentz. Yes i would. Bench carson wentz because while they can't move on from him contractually. There's nothing in the contract that says he has the start and i want to give credit to whoever said this and i can't remember who it was on twitter but basically the ways playing now that's like the downside of jalen hurts pretty much you might as well put in the real jalen hurts and see if you could get the upside of his career like you're gaining nothing from carson wentz playing and the only reason to keep him in. There is just stubbornness pretty much like while we gave up a lot to get him and were paying a lot of money so we have to keep playing them. Which makes zero sense to me. I'm right there with you. There's a there's a few points on this one is that it's amazing. How jalen hurts is good enough for the eagles to take at number fifty three overall in the draft this year but he's also simultaneously not good enough to replace carson wentz. Who was playing one of the worst quarterbacks in the nfl deserves to be danced. And then it's interesting. Because doug peterson keeps talking about. It would send the wrong message for the eagles to ben carson. Wentz in devil's advocate to that Because his point is that like it would send a message of the season is over. Whatever like i don't how. I look at the the other way i would look at it as if you're actually not accepting are you. You're saying that the season isn't over by making a quarterback change because you're willing to do something drastic and aggressive to to get better results and like how is it. Possibly america crecy here like how can you possibly preached that message that the players who know practice the hardest and they play the hardest and you know they. They perform like deserve to be in the starting lineup. If you have carson wentz out there. Because he doesn't right now. Numbers are terrible and it look. I'm not gonna say every single thing wrong with the eagles is on him. I think our mess across the board. I've said this. But he's a pretty big factor as the starting quarterback. And i absolutely think he needs to be benched in there to two main reasons why stats want. I wanna see how he responds to being challenge like that and being held accountable. Because i think maybe that could actually be a good thing for him in the long term. Maybe it will help him wake up and smell the roses whatever. Maybe it won't. But i think that's an angle you can think about number two. Can we please see just how much the quarterback is to blame for what's going on the eagles offensive struggles. There's a lot of time there that like. Oh it's actually not carson wentz's fall or not all his fault. It's doug peterson office. Terrible can't possibly look good in this offense. I mean i am. I just think that's gonna be s. And i would like to see jalen hurts coming in so we could test that theory. Yes i know all about fans not wanting to criticize a quarterback covering the forty niners. Trust me up. A love is real. I just think that you nailed it any other position that someone was playing at the level of carson wentz is playing at and they would be benched. It wouldn't even be wouldn't have to give a press conference about. It wouldn't be a problem and i get. The quarterback is not like other positions. I understand that but at some point the message it sends to the other team to to your team like you brought up with with what peterson said. It's a bad message by keeping him in there so to me. I think you bench him. You bring in hurts if you invested the picking him you might as well see what you have. You did it for a reason. I don't think it was just to protect against an injury by carson wentz. It's to protect the team. That's what that's what highly and everybody was saying when he was picked. Well now you need that protection. So i totally agree with you. Bring him in. See what's there. What is the downside ono. You have two quarterbacks that you really think can play like what. 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BGN Radio Special: Previewing Eagles-Seahawks w/Sports Betting Dime

Bleeding Green Nation

19:09 min | 4 months ago

BGN Radio Special: Previewing Eagles-Seahawks w/Sports Betting Dime

"Welcome into a special edition of fiji radio. I'm your host michael casten and today. We're going to talk about some betting and gambling with this upcoming eagles seahawks. Monday night tilt were also going to get into future. Batson fantasy that we like and to do that. Because i'm not the expert in this field at all. We're going to have matt mcewen of sports betting dime comeback on and chat with us. And tell us how he sees the lay of the land in this thing as we attempt to attack and cover it from every angle so some early day betting advice for you. Let's kick into that right now and we will see you after the game tonight with a new kissed and so lack reactions show to break down everything that went down matt. Welcome back to. Bgn how you doing brother. Hey thanks for having me. I'm i'm doing well still looking my women's from rough betting day Sunday of twelve. But i'm getting through it against how you doing. I'm doing well. We're gonna talk about some of that. We're going to talk about some of those bad. Beats and everything like that. But i of course we have to talk about this matchup Monday night football. Eagles seahawks so. And let's get right into it. So you're the betting expert this is why lean on you and i've seen some slight movement in the line for this eagles seahawks game. Since the weekend. I saw over the weekend when me in Selected the kissing selection was five and a half. It seems to have stabilized around five points. I expected to see a harder shift to the seahawks when we got the opposite because of the lane johnson news with him being out for the season. But matt what's your thinking for the game tonight on this. Yeah we've seen quite a bit of movement for six and a half now even even just last night. We're only at six so we we're starting to see that little bit shift towards seattle. We're getting towards that significant number seven. Once you hit that spread of seven. You'll start getting a lot of action the other way so. I think the books are a little bit afraid of that right now but ninety three percent of the money right now is on to cover a little behind the curtain. We're recording this at nine. Am this is probably going to go up at like ten am. When do you think we see a shift to where someone might be able to get a jump on that that seven point light if things are shifting that hard. Because i'm gonna tell you right now. I'm not that confidence in the eagles. Tonight i picked the seahawks to win. I would probably pick the seahawks to cover. And i can guarantee you. There's not gonna be a whole lot of money coming in from philadelphia right. There's no mail in ballots coming in to shift this thing in favor of philadelphia. As far as the betting public goes my opinion. So when do you think we start to see that shift if we do you know what i. I'd say that midday today you know early afternoon. If there hasn't been any money you know starting to even this thing out if the money continues coming in on on seattle that disproportionally you'll you'll see it. It'll probably be a little bit yet. Closer to game time than you're thinking you know early afternoon But yeah books. Spokes are they. Don't wanna open themselves. They don't expose themselves to that sharp action coming in late radio. The even saying ninety three percent is on seattle. They still feel maybe they. They have not taken significant money yet on this game a once. They they start feeling. Hey we've taken significant money That's when they're really going to start making their moods. So i i wouldn't be surprised this seven by that really after. And then the other part of this as the over under has reached fifty points or reduced to fifty points of you're tracking movement With a total of the eagles have not hit since october. Eighteenth but the seahawks have hidden eight of their ten games and even the last game against the cardinals at forty nine combined point so you might as well call it like nine out of ten games. They've hit fifty points. I've been inclined to take the under on the eagles for a while now Both for just you know what. I think their scores going to be. And just the total game but it's just a lack of confidence in their offense in particularly carson wentz. How are we feeling about this one The considering that this is the top scoring offense in the nfl with the seahawks going against a team. That we mary like we were talking before the show. And you're like how you feel about carson. Because i've been going back and forth on this one for about eighteen hours only man but our about the over on this one i saw this total openness fifty two which was very very surprising. That's a bit of a high total like you said for for eagles offense that that hasn't inspired a ton of confidence this year. But yeah you know late. Last night we dropped to forty eight and a half or back at forty nine at the most books. You can still. If you shop around you can still find. Forty eight and a half. If you're looking for the over how do i feel about it. I opened this gets back up to fifty. And i i would like to the on it. I think seattle defense. They played quite a bit better. Like you said you know forty nine points. But that was a very good arizona offense that they were playing and i think they've looked better. They've been able to rush the passer a little bit better. That's not exactly you want to hear as as an eagles santa clara team who who starved rush. The passer a little bit went to just been under pressure all year. But yeah i mean ultimately it does down to tell me about the props with carson winston. I don't know if i can. I can trust them. I don't think i can trust them to this over. And they've you mentioned the pressure you're right the last two two out of the three weeks where you take. The goff came out. Were they weren't able to get any pressure on him. But you look josh l. And they pressured him thirty six or thirty eight percent of the time you look at color. Murray in that gainer right. The defense look better than they came up with the game ending sack. They also pressured. Murray at the third highest rate About any quarterback was put under pressure in that week. So i definitely agree with you there. any prop bets. That you really favor in this one and we look in. Let's go with one for each team on the offense there so like i was saying i've been really wrestling with this idea of of ben carson. Wentz overs the books are baiting. A little bit right now. You know it actually. It's gone up a little bit. Since last night last night i found carson wentz asking total at two thirty nine and a half that i found it at and i was really wrestling without today. It's it's up to two forty nine and a half so you. I'm certainly not loving the over on that instead i'm actually targeting Jalen rager i think there is some value. There is his receiving total set at forty seven and a half. He's averaged six targets per game over the last three and he's averaging forty two point two receiving yards per game this season. I think they're just really banking on jalen. Rager break game soon in the narrow their force in it. That's that's the guy they need in order for this offense to do anything. In my opinion oh miles. Sanders has been great But you know seattle's run defense pretty good this year i think. I think raiders. The guy here who i'm looking at i. You can also get him at plus three hundred for anytime touchdowns well So i i like that one Over to seattle. I mean you look at mcafee. Look at laki. You're not getting very good prices on them anymore. This year. they've they've just been too good so i i don't see a ton of value in either of those two but it's chris carson returning. I know the eagles run defense has been pretty good this year. But i think with the bit of the slump that the seattle offense has been in a slump. They're still scoring points right. They they haven't been the same explosive offense that we saw in the first six weeks or so correct. I think we're gonna see them at force the issue with chris carson. They're going to kind of reestablish that running game a little bit let russell. Wilson work off the play action. I i don't. I don't like i said. The eagles rodney has been pretty good. I don't love his rushing total but is receiving total is and a half and very low rent. And he's he's a back they they certainly like Feeding the ball to the air to. He's gone over that that told eighteen app total in floor of his six games this season. So they're out. I i like the over eighteen and a half long on receiving yards. And again i i like him. For anytime touchdown plus one twenty plus money on a guy who scored in four of the six games. He's played this season I'll take that. yeah i like. Those bets I agree with you there as well as far as bets to take best to avoid you mentioned carson wentz around two hundred fifty passing yards. He hasn't done that in the past three games. Not super confident that he's going to do it here today. Even with know the porous seattle pass defense all that stuff Rager doug peterson mentioned. That transphobia is getting more attention teams or scheming him away. This would be a fantastic time for rigor to shine and show that he deserves some attention as well. I mean they. Obviously they designed one up for him in the red zone. Uh specifically. I think to get his confidence going as a rookie. Seeing as he's missed some time so i could. I could definitely see him scoring in this one. But let's let's move on from the monday night matchup and let's look back before we look ahead again. We're gonna talk futures in the second here but what was your worst beat of the sunday slate. And why is it. Always those dog on chargers. you're gonna make me relive this yeah the horrors of of sunday week twelve. Yeah that was awful. You know you had chargers plus for i. I was on chargers. Plus floor aisles. Over in that game. To which i mean. They came out scored two quick touchdowns. i was pretty good. Four turnovers in the fourth quarter at combined just back and forth Terrible often hain the. Yeah they they just decided to take a break there in the fourth quarter very frustrating. But i figured at least with the chargers Driving driving the field there. They get that she needs. I'm the ceo. The of the hell. Mary mckee hail mary That they could win. A all you gotta do is spike the ball. You got three shots at the end zone. Yeah they come up and run it. Real real miscommunication as anthony. Lynn put it but it was really bad. E scores there your plus four actor cover and i know a little about the back door covers From from sunday. I was also on the browns minus six and a half will jacksonville. To score a touchdown in the last couple minutes. I was also on the i actually jumped on the giants minus four and a half when that line opened a two minus six. And yeah you know same thing. They allow brandon. Alan to score a late touchdown to back door covers. The really hurt. Yesterday was a rough one as a really ruffle giants. Winning nineteen to seventeen against the brandon led. The bengals is good enough to give you the lead in the nfc east which is fun. Everybody it's elaine. Welter off and i'm hosting a new podcast called built to last by american express where we will dive deep into the stories history and continued legacy of small businesses that shape american culture are debut season will focus on black owned small businesses. That need our support now more than ever in each episode. We feature the story of a black business trailblazer. That has inspired. Modern black. owned business. First up is kinky. Cole of atlanta's food truck turn restaurant celebrity vegan. We'll also chat with nathan nba the cutting edge designer behind the hanifah three d digital fashion show. Plus we'll check in with each array are modern day renaissance. We hope that it encourages all of our listeners. To support these businesses as well as the black businesses in your own immunities tune in for these amazing stories and by apple youtube. or wherever. You get your favorite podcast. Whenever i have you want to talk Futures bets anything in particular standing out that may be slipping through the cracks. Right now that some of our better syrupy to be made a middleware up. You know the silver lining i guess with the giants still winning that game yesterday was taking taking the lead in the nfc east for for now for at least. Hey we'll we'll see the eagles get upset tonight. We'll see what couple of weeks ago. I actually had the giants Tend to one to win this division. I thought it was just absolutely absurd to the list. Any team attend one in this. Those are crazy odds considering the fact that number one. He's one of the like one of the remaining healthy quarterbacks in the division and they were competing in games. Like i pooh-poohed the giants a little bit there in the segue but like they were competitive. So i don't see why was ten to one in this division. It's you know what have the one Unit in this division. That i think you can count on. And that's their defense. Yup but yeah that. I mean sorry not to three weeks ago. November nights tend to want so think things were were still looking optimistic in in philadelphia that point the field that they were to get healthy And the giants yet at daniel jones said just finished giving the ball away for a handful straight meets there but i went use. It was ten to one. It's crazy every reason enough to bet it and here. I am not now. I still actually like The giants price right. Now you can get plus two sixty two to win the division to win the nfc. Still and i. I like that you know especially considering. You're looking at philadelphia being six and a half point dogs tonight. You're expecting i should say gloss but the spread says they are gonna lose tonight Giants hold onto the lead in the division and again like i said if there's one unit i want to rely on in that division it's giants decent so i still like that that price plus you sixty and then you know what the other one is the other team from tonight. I actually you still get the the seahawks minus one eighty to win the nfc west which i like Their schedule the rest of the way is easiest in the division By by far. I a very tough division. But you know they took back the They split the tiebreaker. Now their zona. Ripe the rams i think are gonna continue being that that up and down team more to have something to do with their quarterback. A kid You know looking like an mvp contender. One week to You know i For trump lost the next week. That that's been the jared goff story. But i i think you know again assuming seattle wins tonight. I think that that lines gonna push to you know minus two forty or so miles one eighty i. I would get on that while you can't giants and seahawks giant If you want some from the afc. I still don't mind. The pittsburgh steelers to win the sec. I jumped on this one Early in the season preseason. I liked we saw the steelers defense last year. And how good it was. Once it came over I liked that to continue. And you get ben. Rothlisberger back Basically you get a a a legitimate quarterback under center. So i took. I'm sitting on his brig right now. Plus twelve hundred to win the afc right now. You can still get him. Plus two seventy. I think they are the only team in the afc. Maybe outside of the raiders who are not right now are not sitting In a nice spot. But i think the only team who can slow down the chiefs. Yup they'll be able to pressure mahomes They've got the db's who'd can cover. I think they've got the scheme they can. You know they're they're not gonna play todd bowles and and leave at lea- man to man coverage on tyreek hill around i. I think there's still some value to be had there. His plus seventy i ultimately i think the the comes down to one of those teams that i think still a pretty good price to pay his. I liked that bet. I also think the steelers are. The only team can slow themselves down because they always tend to have these weird especially on the road. This is through are particularly interesting. You saw the game with dallas I didn't think the game against jacksonville. The score looks fantastic for them but they tend to play down to their competition. They tend to play up to their competition. So they can't compete and they can frustrate the heck outta ya But they're undefeated and the schedule really. Ain't that bad moving forward so that one to matt appreciate you joining us here on. Bgi again go ahead plug yourself plug your work. Let the people know where to find both mango crazy awesome. I appreciate that. So before. I before i do that. I've got one more little bit for a year. Maybe this can re money myers inspire some confidence here in in bleeding green nation after i kind of dog the eagles off my my formula that that i put together predicting scores the spd's score predictor. We went three in one yesterday on upset. Fix you know made made three point three units. Have if you were abandoned evenly last week. You don't want to three still made money though. We hit dallas upset last week. Actually so tonight. It's calling for philadelphia upset. Oh it's like in the eagles tonight. i. I don't really want to tell you why if i had You know if. I if i had a gas are digging into these numbers. I think it's looking at the eagles defense. Let's this played pretty well and the defense that has not played so well as quickly as the past so i. I was just as surprised as anybody to see it. It's calling for eagles upset tonight. So i might be fading my my formula on this one but i just wanted to throw that in there but Yeah you can get all that you know anything. You're looking for score predictions team batting trends the updated lines. You get that all over it. Escort spending time dotcom. You're new to betting to. We've got you covered. We've got a bunch of one o one sir. I'm not sure what line is not sure how to read odds we've got you covered You know in in your entire journey whether you're looking you know where the places to bet make that debt. We got you covered from start to finish so sports betting dot com and map. Mcewen come up with the the the formula that's rock and right. Now call neagle so at this man tonight. If you lead you in the right direction take all that anger from the eagles loss of row at pickups at time. You've got to be positive right let's go. Let's go win the deficient expand appreciate it. Excellent gee.

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Trump's Beef with Nancy Pelosi & Ben Carson's Incompetence at HUD | Wyatt Cenac

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

27:43 min | 2 years ago

Trump's Beef with Nancy Pelosi & Ben Carson's Incompetence at HUD | Wyatt Cenac

"You're listening to comedy central. America's beverage companies are working together to support families as they reduce the sugar in their diets coke, Dr Pepper and Pepsi are providing more great tasting options with less sugar or no sugar. All smaller portion sizes clear calorie, labels and reminders to think balance more choices smaller portions less sugar. Learn more about how these three competitors are working together at balance US dot org. That's balanced US dot org. Twenty two thousand nineteen. From comedy central's world news headquarters in New York. This is the daily show with Trevor Noah ears. Everybody. Thank you so much for tuning. Tonight. Our guest tonight is a former daily show correspondents, he's not wrapping up season. Two of these hit HBO show. Why it's the neck is joining us. Everybody. Also on tonight's show. We'll Ben cost news his job. The Queen of England goes shopping, and Donald Trump wants us to know he's totally cool. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's begin in not so Great Britain today. It was reported that Prime Minister Theresa may is planning to resign over her failure to negotiate a Brexit's deal and since the chaos of Brexit could collapse, Britain's economy. British people are preparing for the worst stockpiling food going to supermarkets and getting whatever they want and can, which means supermarkets are seeing some unlikely shoppers, British supermarket received a Royal visit Queen Elizabeth stopped by pop up grocery store. England, visit included a stop at the self service checkout area. The ninety three year old monarch was intrigued with technology. She asked staffers, whether customers could cheat the system and leave without paying. Oh man. That is so bracelets, even the queen's first reaction to self-checkout his way. So I can just still this shit. Is that what you're saying? Actually, I would love to see the Queen steel groceries know because only the Queen can steal for the country. Yeah. She could just be like I claim these Cheetos for bridge, a and now I'm numb. I'm numb. These feed the que-. And by the way, not to rub it in rub it in, but this really shows how far Britain has fallen right? I mean, the queens starts at her reign with trips to the corners of empire. And now it's ending with trips to the grocery store. Yeah. By the time William is king. He's going to be making Royal visits to the end of his driveway everything. Like touches is my kingdom up to this mailbox. That's where it is moving on. I've got some bad news for men. Another trick in upholding. The patriarchy has been exposed, there's a sift in the debate over the right temperature for office thermostats. We know most women like it warmer. Men want it cold. So search out that there is science to back it up. A new study indicates men's brains work better when it's colder and women do better when it's warm. Yes, yes, it turns out, one of the reasons men and women fights about temperature in the office is because it affects our brains in different. Ways. Yeah. When it's hot women's brains work better because they're not losing energy shift room. And then when it's cold men's brains work better. Because our Pena's shuts down. When it's hot, the Pena's like what we do what we do what we do. And then it gets cold. I'm out. But I do understand this is a tough situation because men need cold air, but then women need warm air. We'll work in the same place. So we've got a compromise. This is what I think one week the office temperature should be set to cold, and then women can wear sweat up. And then the next week, you set the temperature super high and men can away business Speedo. It'll work for everyone. Yeah, it's actually funny. Because in South Africa, we have a similar issue, but it's slightly different. Right. That's more around race like black people always thought that the thermostat was too, cold and white people thought that black people were inferior. All right. Finally, you guys didn't see that coming. Did you? And finally, here's a story out of Connecticut that makes me think we have finally reached peak millennial. Connecticut for failure to appear in court reached an unusual deal with police. His name is Jose SIMS told police, he turned himself in only his wanted poster gets fifteen thousand likes on the department's Facebook page say twenty nine year old Jose, SIMS sent a private message to the Torrington police department offering to turn himself in, if his wanted poster got twenty thousand likes police negotiated him down to fifteen thousand. Seriously people is this, the future of police negotiations. There's going to be having like hostage situations with cups like released the hostages. We like not until you like unsubscribe to my YouTube channel. Okay. We can like your page but we can't subscribe, we just don't have the resources. And I know I know Facebook likes as part of the criminal, Justice system, seems, ridiculous, seems crazy, like likes full criminals. But when you think about it, this isn't anything new. I mean, technically a jury is just twelve people. You're trying to get likes from. That's it. I didn't kill him. But regardless, this got us. This is just a stupid way to try and get famous, if you're a criminal who wants to go viral, forget about Facebook likes, don't they don't make you big. You don't need to go on social media, right? Do you want to get famous just abducted child? Yes. No. Think about it. Not everyone Facebook, but everyone gets an ambulance. Yeah. And that's Trevino's advice of the day. The headlines let's move onto our top story, as we all know a big part of Trump's presidency has been his beefs he beats with foreign leaders he beefs with pawn stars. He even beefs with Siri. Sorry. Donald. I didn't get that you never get me. Zaeri you're just like the rest of that. So who's the president beefing with now? Well, let's find out in another installments. Donald J Trump come onto in beef. Did they hit tip that? And if I. This guy breath that the punch him in the face. Yesterday. President Trump had a meeting with democratic leader Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, or as they known in the streets shoe dog and Nancy Pelosi. Now, this meeting was supposed to be about rebuilding America's infrastructure, you know, roads tunnels airports, etc. But instead of building bridges in this meeting, Trump decided to burn them down after walking in not shaking, a single hand not even sitting down, President Trump lashed out of the democratic leaders before marching out that contentious cabinet room meeting lasted just three minutes. So I came here to do a meeting on infrastructure with Democrats. All of a sudden, I hear last night, they're going to have a meeting right before this meeting to talk about the I word the I word. Can you imagine instead of walk it in happily into a meeting? I walk into look at people that just said that I was doing a cover up. I don't do cover ups. I don't do cover-ups folks, I don't do I don't do cover up. I don't do pull ups. I don't do push ups. I don't do set up snow up only downs- shutdowns meltdowns, and most important letdown Surrey, Eric, I can't come to your birthday. He won't be seeing me there. Probably. Dad. You don't even know when my birthday is doesn't matter. I just know I'm busy that day. Now, there were no cameras rolling in the meeting. So the only information we have is what people have said. And by the sounds of it, it was tense. Democrats say they were stunned and Pelosi in a letter to House Democrats called it a temper tantrum to watch what happened in the White House, would make your jaw drop in any event. I pray for the president of the United States, and I pray to the United States of America. Woo. I pray for the president. I feel like Nancy Pelosi has been spending a bunch of time with Maxine Waters. Because now every time she patronizing Trump have you noticed? She seems more and more like a black on T every you felt that vibe. Yeah. Because I she gave Trump the sideways clap. And now she's praying for him. That's the blackest thing ever just like law. This crazy man needs. We need. At the next state of the union is going to be fanning herself like. So according to Chuck, and Nancy, Trump came into that meeting completely acted the fool, but according to Trump's very calm Twitter rent this morning. He was very chilled for the whole three minutes. And then when he stormed out, it wasn't a relaxed, and graceful fashion. Now, obviously, most people didn't believe Trump. Right. So today, he interrupted a press conference with farmers to basically us, his very objective employees to tell us all how zen he is. She wa-. She said, I walked into the room right next door yesterday and walked in and started screaming and yelling just the opposite. I walked out, I was so calm. Where is Sarah, Kellyanne? Where are you come remember when you were in that room Kellyanne? What was my temperament yesterday in the hamper said, he's what was my wealth? Well, the screen. Very calm, and you were very. We're just talking about the media yesterday that you were there. What was my tone yesterday? Intimated very and straightforward. Say what you want about Trump? But he is truly the king of political theater because I love how he makes it seem like the questions weren't preplanned just like, oh, Sarah, fancy seeing you here while I have you how do you think I was in the meeting yesterday? It's so planned like people part of it, you know, this is the kind of shit that you'll see Africa all the time. Like some dictator will be accused of war crimes, and then he'll bring his own soldiers out as his defense, and it'd be like I didn't vote do you not initials? I said, I'm bitching, the villages is this true be like Nossa. You are always condamne very sweet. Yes, indeed. And total. Have you seen me bits? Anybody come on that you could not even bitch. Airfli-. Well, whole war. What do you mean? I could not be. Are you saying, I'm weak, I beat you like that'd be like. So. So the Democrats, the Democrats say that Trump active crazy, but Trump says that he's super chill, and I'll be honest with you, as long as this cloud of impeachment continues to hang over the president. This beef is going to continue and it's going to continue to rail infrastructure and any other issue that needs bipartisan support, so Nancy, I hope you've prepared your Sunday, best because you're going to be praying for a long time. We'll be right back. Let's talk about Ben Qassem secretary of housing and urban development and willing residents of the sunken place. The man has had quite a journey from growing up as a child in Detroit's to becoming a world renowned brain surgeon. He went from being a presidential candidates to the breakout star of the movies utopia. Fun. Fact, actually have to speed him up to play the Slough. But since I was sleepy friend was put in charge of America's housing and urban development. He's kind of dropped off the radar that is until this week when he struggled to answer a very simple question. Ben Carson has been accused of being not qualified to lead the department of housing and urban development. He didn't help his cause he confused a real estate term with a cookie, and also like you to get back to me, if you don't mind to explain the disparity in REO rates. Do you know what an Oreo is an Oreo are not an Oreo, an R E o r real estate? Let's see. Oh, stay on for organization owned real estate owned. That's what happens when a property goes to foreclosure, we call it an REO. Okay. Okay. That was bad. It was bad. It really was bad. And, you know, I think it doesn't help that bin costing speaks the way that he does because he was sounds like someone shot him with a tranquilizer dot and he's about to pass out. You know what I mean? Like that's him. Like he just like sitting there, the whole time when he's just like. I can't believe you shut me. With a trick will last dot. In my neck. Area. Damn. Why isn't this working why isn't he going down? You cannot trick with is that which is already trying to clear. Now here's here's the thing on its own, this would have just been slip up. He doesn't know an abbreviation, but this REO moments just added to the perception, that costs doesn't know how to do his job since he was appointed. There's been an increase in families living in squalor, in subsidized housing, right, over one thousand HUD properties have failing grades and he's delayed an anti segregation initiative. Like he's so bad for housing, even tornadoes are, like, do pace yourself what's wrong with you? So this week slip up didn't help which is why Ben Carson Wentz on Fox News to do some damage control would like to remind viewers who may not know, the Ben Qassem was before he went into politics. One of if not the best brain surgeon in the world and they were talking down to then cost himself is with us now. Would you respond to all of this? Yes, it was I, I was, it was three and a half hours of testimony. Oh man. Camman duct causing like like von is introducing them. Like how dare they talk down to the most brilliant mind, the world has ever seen secretary causing show them what a genius. You're and he's. Beverly beverly. But, but I will I will give caution credit. He showed us the debates and he showed it again yesterday. He might not have known what are e os were at the hearing on Tuesday. But by Wednesday, this guy was a certified Ariella gist. Of course, I'm very familiar with foreclosed properties and with REO have read extensively about them, and the, the REO portfolio just over the last ten years has dramatically decreased by ten fold, you know, sixty five thousand sixty five hundred. Someone's been brushing up one day he didn't know what the next knows everything. I bet after that hearing costume was up all night with these books like rocky just singing himself. There. No me that. So now Ben costing is back on everyone's radar. But he's not back in a good way the question is could this lead to him getting fired? For more on this, we turn to someone who's been fired many times, do say slowed everyone. I just want to say I've never been fired. I left value city before they knew I was going to do. Checking you personally, I'm just saying you know what? It's like in the real world. What do you think will happen to Ben Carson? About your fire. Yeah. Looks like that because he doesn't know what he's doing. No. Because he doesn't look like he knows what he's doing. It doesn't matter if you can do your job at matters. If you looked like you can do your job. You're not many jobs. I've can't because I was bad at them. But I knew how to fake it. Like like, like when I was a lifeguard anytime. Somebody started drowning. I just blew my whistle when they still drown but it sounded like I say. And you'll be making your office. If someone ask you for report that you didn't do you just say, oh, dear Karen's doing that every office, Karen? Out of your boss finds out you're lying to say you perceptive hail. That's why you the boss. Okay. I, I don't know how effective any of this advice would be. No, I. I don't even know if that would help caution because he's in trouble here. This seems to be bipartisan agreement that he is bad at his job. Like if he's incompetent shouldn't he just be fired? If he's incompetent then he fits in perfectly. How does that make him any different than the other cabinet members? I mean Betsy the vases charge of education and only qualification is a PHD in dumb blank stares. I get that. But let's focus on cost. Like, when you look at Ben Carson's, how gender for instance, like the stats that I asked you to compile. What did you see? Trevor I was going to look at the numbers, but Karen said she wanted to do. We don't know we don't we don't have a Karen, you see. Oh, should you like to me, and that's why you're the boss you? Perceptive hail. I am. I am. Slowed everybody. I wanted to remind you, you can catch due tomorrow on the new comedy central show the new negroes. It's going to be with baron Vaughn, and open Mike eagle Fridays eleven PM slowed everybody. We'll be right back. I guess is a form of daily show correspondents comedian and writer whose HBO series now in second season in the second season is called why it's an ex problem areas. Please welcome, why it's back. Welcome to the show, my friend. Then you've been welcome back to the daily show. But to the show. Yeah, this is a totally different show like a new is for you because like changed everything in the Bill. Would you not know where you're going and stuff? It is very strange. Yes, nothing looks familiar at all. You really did like a gut renovation in this. It was like you bought a Brooklyn Brownstone, and you're like, all right. I'm going to gentrify. Oh man. It's, it's, it's great to have you back in the in the in the structure. Yes. Back to the structure, and congratulations. On the second season of your show. A lot of people loved you on daily show because they were like, oh, why gets out there into the streets and he tackles? You know, a subject, but that was for like five minutes. Three minutes at a time your show. Ready stretches out subject. You take your time with why do you do it that way? I mean like John does it over week? I'll do it in a day. You dude over season. Why does it take that long? I mean, one talk real slow. So that's part of. No, it felt like to spend a season on something was really interesting. Because, you know, with the daily show, we will do a story, and then we're you know, we were sort of at the mercy of the new site. Right. Right. Right. And so it, it felt like okay yeah, if you wanted to do an interesting story about education, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, wait a minute. Donald Trump just took shit on somebody's Mustang. We gotta talk about that. And I remember that day. Yeah. No, it's really weird that he did that. But also, we weren't more outraged. I think we were tired, we're tired. Yeah. I would love if that some. How people were like just going and asking him now. We shed. Shit. And I feel like he's so Aron he'd be like, yeah. Did he's like he just won't deny any guest dumped ever. You really go into a topic. Like, for instance season one, I truly loved because you went into policing. I remember like you tackled every single piece of policing. It wasn't it wasn't just a simple subject. It was like from the polices, perspec- perspective. It was from, you know, like, the, the criminals perspective, even from kids who in juvenile detention et cetera. And that became the jumping off point for education, which is season two, like how do you jump from policing education? I mean, I think so much of, you know, when you think about policing so much of our approach to policing, is that all of the societal cracks that exists than it's like, well, just send the cops, Adam. Right. And so, when you think about what, what's the foundation that could set people up in a better way that could, you know, have impacts on people's ability, get jobs on crime? Education is one of those things. If you give everyone acts. S to quality education. We have enough data to say, oh, crimes it's just go down. Pregnancies go down. Like there's so many things that are impacted by that. And so if felt like okay, let's look at -education because it really is this building block. And if a kid gets pushed out of high school at the age of fourteen they are at a much higher probability of finding themselves headed off to a brazen. Right. And so it feels like oh yeah. Let's look at because that may be a way if you can get people to like buy into right? We need equitable education for everybody. That may be thank you. Always fun. When they clap like that, as though I can like sign that into law. Another of you clapped. And yes, now it's happening. You wake up tomorrow. They're everyone's gonna have inequitable cash. I, I. No. It's not how it happens. Voting and going to school board meetings, the one of one of the most intriguing putts of the season that I watched, was seeing how you were talking about education and the way we approach it in the world. But what specifically in America, and how you said you feel like it's Nord the way it is predominantly because most teachers are women. That was an interesting interesting journey to be on what you like people are just like, oh, the teachers want more money again. Would, you know it was like these women want Ronnie, but it really did start to feel like, oh, no. If this were a male dominated field, that would be a different approach to that. Like when you're working through the season, you're discovering these pieces like is their way to change it. I mean, you say the collapse, but like is your is your show knows your show trying to give people solution, or you're trying to highlight so that people know how they vote and what to do. I mean, I think it's a little of both. On the one hand, you do want to highlight these things. And yeah, when you think about something like the teaching profession and how. How it is a majority female profession. When we're having all of these conversations right now about gender dynamics and about, you know, equal pay and sexual harassment. All these things were talking about women's civil rights. It does raise the question for me. Well is the teaching profession is should that be part of that conversation about women's civil rights? And so some of is trying to have those conversations and some of it is also looking at. Well, there are people who are on the ground who are trying to make change. And what does that change? Look like. And is that change replicable? Right. Is there something that somebody has done? You know our first season. We looked at policing and we looked at things like restorative Justice and looking at something like restorative Justice in wondering. Okay, it's working in Oakland. They've got the DA on board with it. They are working with, with law enforcement is that. Model that could then expand to Los Angeles could expand until Pika Kansas could it expand. And is that how we can have different conversations about something like the criminal Justice system, or -education by showing people that models do exist? And now maybe you could take that model and build off of it. And you know, it's like this old house, like, once you see somebody build a banister. You're like, oh, maybe I could do that. That's why I have why it's an axe Bannister store on its. 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Blazing 5 - Week 5

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Blazing 5 - Week 5

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Saturday morning podcast last week blazing five one, three in one that dolphins pick still hurts I'm nine, ten and one on the season. Not Happy. Dissatisfied little angry I'll get to RJ bell pregame.com in a second. But I might blazing five. Let's blaze it up prior. It's Collins Blazin Fox. Panthers at Felker I'll take it Lanta. Only half to give up two and a half listened Matt Ryan and Dan Quinn of actually always played Carolina well. At home but this stories about the panthers defense bad last year I think it's the second worst in the League Carolina's. Thirty first ranked on third downs, fewest sacks second worst scoring defense seven rushing touchdowns allowed second most this is a bad defense and I'll say this about Atlanta. I. Don't think they've their coach I think they're passing offense is still robust and I think a desperate team. This is an easy one for me. I like Atlanta to score enough points to beat what I believe is the second worst defense in the NFL three, three, twenty, seven falcons. Tax couldn't tell you the last time I took Jacksonville but I'm taking the jags plus six between Gardner Menchu and James Robinson the running back. They got a pretty pesky little offense and teams that fire their coach Houston mid-season are two and six against the spread the following week, and they got real issues in. HOUSTON. Their offensive line is awful. Last in rushing offense can't protect Shawn Watson the most sack quarterback in the league, and that's the Shawn Watson who escaped sacks I do not believe you and correct. A bad. Offensive Line in season. There's nothing on the market nobody's giving away their good offensive. Lineman. I'm GonNa Take Jacksonville plus six to upset the Texans who just fired their coach. You don't have to love. Bill O'Brien but I thought schematically was darn clever twenty-seven twenty-six jags. Rams at Washington Washington plus seven and a half all take him third east coast road trip already for the rams who also play rival San Francisco next week and could be looking ahead. Listen. There's way to disrupt Sean McVeigh's offense pressure chase young is back in the Washington defense fourteen sacks top three, two, hundred, eight yards allowed top four real good Washington defense getting star rookie chase young back, and also Kyle Allen's not great. But he's efficient in when he started last year over Cam remember that he was very good early until the world got film on Him Ron Rivera telling you we can win this division we're with our defensive personnel. We just can't make mistakes. So what he's telling you is Kyle Allen at least when I in practice makes fewer mistakes. I'm going to call the upset here rams third trip out east. Washington wins upset twenty, four, twenty, three good defensive lines have disrupted Sean McVeigh's running off. NC's been in La Bella check sorta gave everybody the blueprint and the Super Bowl how to disrupt the offense Washington will do that. Cold set brown's like the colts I love him in these only got to give up. I'll take indie think about this the Cleveland browns are off their biggest national TV win in a decade beaten cowboys CLEVELAND, loves themselves this morning. Good luck the colts defense leads the NFL in everything points allowed passer rating yard at all levels as Greg Cosell told us this is a great defense. The browns three wins have come against teams whose records or three, eight and one their defense in Cleveland is still awful. It's just at Dallas couldn't expose it at the Right Times Philip rivers may be limited but with this offensive line, he's completing almost seventy three percent of his passes. The colts have the better all line, the better defense. CLEVELAND. Highly emotional coming off that win over the cowboys I'm GonNa take the Colt to win twenty, six, twenty, three. Vikings at Seahawks Vikings. Plus. Seven. I, know I know I know I know don't bet against Russell. Wilson I'M GONNA TAKE MINNESOTA PLUS seven here Chicago one last night. What does that mean for Minnesota? Oh, hell the packers are winning in the bears winning this is a must win for Minnesota much more urgency in division. The bears are foreign one. They've gotTa win now. And I'll say this, say what you want about Kirk cousins on Monday night football on Sunday night football. He's been good. He's four and two. Hundred seventeen passer rating he's great on Sunday Night Football Delvin Cook, lead the League Adam field, and rookie. Justin. Jefferson are just Jefferson folks is the next superstar wide receiver in this league. The seahawks defense is atrocious atrocious. They are on pace to allow the most yards and the most passing yards of any team in the Super Bowl era, and this is an offense that is stacked with weapons. Kirk cousins. When given time he'll have it will move the ball Russell Wilson does something. Miraculous to pull W out of an L. but I'm absolutely going to take Minnesota and the seven points twenty seven, twenty, six seahawks way too many points to give Dalvin Kirk Cousins Justin Jefferson Adam good tight ends and capable offense at one right Rj Bell Pregame.com Straight Outta Vegas Fox sports radio six to seven eastern at Rj in Vegas to handle you know it. It's it's MC, and some of these big lines this week you know raiders chiefs and it's like yeah you. Let. Me Start with a favorite. This is one of my favorites I, like I'm going to take it Lanta. Minus two and a half against the panthers. It's one of my favorite bats very desperate, Atlanta Team Matt. Ryan. Dole has been good against the panthers but I just don't like this panthers defense You to rush for touchdowns second we're scoring defense in fact, it was bad last year it's worse this year they don't get the quarterback fewest sacks by any team they're bad on third down I just don't like their personnel matchup here and I'm Gonna I'm gonNA swallow the two and a half. This feels like an easy one to me one of the wise guys think agreement. Here, strong agreement whenever you have a team whose wins and losses are bad. But their stats are good. The wise guys tend to ignore the wins and losses. Now I think that is something that they can get overboard with because I do think there's a psychology of the of the humans on the team but I think there's still a sense in Atlanta that the season's not over so. That may be irrational, but remember last year they finished year six into an to me Colin. The main drive here is what was the look ahead line in this game so if you were to bet this game a week ago, just one week early, the line was five and a half. Five and a half. All that's happened since land looked really bad on Monday night and Carolina looked good. I'm not saying you don't WanNa just a little bit. You don't adjust from five and a half to two and a half the value especially under the field goal on Atlanta or I WANNA take. Let's go back to underdogs because I like him. I thought Jacksonville was tanking and now I just think they're not a great team but giving them six is too much. All take the JAGS plus six at Houston first of all teams that fire their coach mid season I, look this up to and six against the spread the following week since in the last four years secondly, Shawn Watson Houston's got a problem it can't get passed and these are not in season fixable. He's been sacked sixteen times this your most in the NFL. Their last in rushing. This is a team that is bad up front and I i. think there are problems you can solve during a season. I. Don't believe that's one of them and I think Frankly Gardner Minzhu in his division opponent games his last three, his pin he's he's a Gamer three plus touchdown passes I'm going to go with an upset here. Jags twenty-seven, twenty-six, I'll take. The point I don't think Houston should give up six point anybody right now. What are the wise guys think agreement here if you look at it Houston as a team that literally has been up only like five minutes the entire season. So think two hundred and forty minutes of football and they've been up about five minutes. So if you think about it is. Home Field advantage we estimated about two points entering the year obviously without the crowds we are now moving it towards one. It just really is a situation where the good quarterbacks and I'm not sure. Menchu. Meets that criteria but the good quarterbacks are taking advantage of the silence on the road in such a way it's really diminishing any home field. So the fact that jags are getting six and you know you would think well, homefield three plus no no. This is five additional points and I agree with you in Gener- I think O'Brien and I know people who is going to say, well, the division wasn't all that good. He's he won out of five division titles. Yes Andy Reid one four out of five and ballot check one, five out of five. That's the only three coaches. That's one four or five amazingly Andy rebel check in the fired coach. So I wonder if there's going to be a little. Ambivalent nece ambivalence from the Texans Right. I have a friend that is on radio down there. He said they're happy to see him go. But you know I still think when a guy wins like that and then you've got Romeo now and by the way the only thing lasting the only thing that worries me calling on this game is there's one other time Romeo took over midseason and he actually upset the undefeated Green Bay packers they were fourteen and remember the packers were twelve point favorites and Kansas. City, with Cornell. Upset nineteen fourteen I don't. That's one game he did well in that spot, but I, agree with you, Jack. The week I'M GONNA go Washington plus seven and a half at home against the Rams What what Ron Rivera told me benching Dwayne Haskins is listen Kyle Allen won't make mistakes. And our defense. Is. Good. ENOUGH TO WIN Games in a bad division. So if you look at Cayo Allen here his first four starts last year when he replaced Cam now once the League got film on Him, he's fairly limited, but he's a high completion percent guy his first four starts last year not no interceptions seven touchdowns and I think Washington's defense which by the way tied for third most sacks very good against the packs there is a secret sauce to beating the Rams Interior pressure on Jared Goff discombobulated their offense a little giants did it last week Rams probably win but I like the number here the value all take Washington plus seven and a half to slow it down and make it up like the giants did what are the why guys think I'll tell you you get the wiseguy badge because this is a wise guy game right? Who wants Washington here right. But that's the. That's the point that's where the value comes. When someone doesn't when the public doesn't like a game or side, it usually is the right side. I think how Allen I worry about his fumbles and he does have really small hands. He was a late round pick that said his performance last year other than the fumbles was mighty good. I think even more importantly house the rest of the team GonNa Respond. My sense is a new Haskins was a mistake and he was an albatross I feel like in and maybe calling, you can give me your thoughts I think the team gets energized by the quarterback change. What do you think I don't think you can fool professional athletes and from from even. In preseason practices at Ron Rivera had these pointed thoughts about Dwayne self-awareness. I always felt that there's more to this story than just. Winning enough I don't think he ever bought into him and I think Rivera. This lousy division and says. We got too many good defensive players here and too many talent wide receivers. We can win this division and the players think that. So to your point, I think Kyle Allen in until we get too much film on Him. Again is probably this week the better choice and let's not forget they coulda had cam and they chose Cowan. So obviously, this is a team or coaching staff that actually feels optimistic about him the thing I like lasting on. This game that I really liked the game about is the rams schedule. So look at the rams here. It's pretty shocking. They played Dallas very tough game they played at Philly now in hindsight maybe not. So top at all the way east coast tough opponent in theory then they had that game against the bills. Remember it was thirty, five, thirty two. Then they had this game against the giants which they were obviously flat now they have Washington back. On the East Coast and next week the forty niners at San Francisco. So over ever a sandwich spot, this is it rams I want to win. They don't care about margin agreement. Washington more with RJ Bell. 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Oh my everybody's telling Cleveland how great they are Oh, it's unbelievable, and now they face the best defense in the NFL which is basically number one everything points passer rating passing yards totally art is a great defense a deforest buckner his added a real interior line surge. The browns three wins. This year have come against teams that are three eight and one their defense allowing thirty to a game. I still do not trust this defense and Philip rivers is completing seventy three percent of his throws. You're not getting to him. He's not hurried. Now his ceiling is low but behind this line in this running game, I think Indianapolis is this. They just see the Cleveland browns the highly emotional Brown's biggest win feels like in years. I think this is a bad spot for Cleveland. Great spot for the colts. I think I'll take the colts minus one. What are the guys think biggest agreement of the week let me ask you one game. One hundred thou- like a big call and bat like it matters to you. Do you want? Do you want which of these two quarterbacks? Do you want quarterback and four you? Well neither. I would say choose I would say this I would choose Frank Reich that offensive line and rivers Yeah. That's what I would choose. I do find it interesting that rivers at the very end of his career is a game manager and that's really what Baker is become a game manager and he's been pretty good as that no doubt but you're right it was the perfect storm of the public and the browns getting excited. Let's look at the look ahead line. So if we had bet this game a week ago the line in this game was two and a half the coats were favored by two and a half then. Coats look gray, right fine. But then in front of the world, the Browns dominate the cowboys, three hundred yards rushing etc, and then the line goes all the way down the pick him but then the prose back up to two and a half, and now the public batting back down. So this is really a classic pros vs Joes and the pros are certainly on the colts like you said. Best Defense Codes excetera Brown's letdown spot. And let's not forget Chaba out. So yeah, hunts good but it's nice when you had two backs that's a half a point coats big agreement. my final pick on five Monday night for Sunday night football I'm going to take Minnesota plus seven at Seattle I think Seattle Russell Wilson probably pulls it out. We talk about Kirk Cousins Bat on Monday night football, but he's been good on Sunday night football. where he's got fifteen touchdowns and three picks and a seventy three percent completion percentage. Also Seattle's defense. It's really a mess. They were very fortunate last week that Russell Wilson. End the first half. got a late score against the sloppy Miami Defense but Seattle really struggled to put away a dolphins team with Ryan. Fitzpatrick. That's in a rebuild. They fly back across the country. The seahawks defense is on pace to allow the most total yards and passing yards of any team in the super. Bowl. Era and I think delvin Cook is Healthy Justin Jefferson is. Now an emerging star with Adam feeling wide receiver. Their offensive line gives kirk cousins, plenty of time and I just again, this is Minnesota's a real football team and this is urgent time Chicago just one Green Bay's winning okay. Seattle they're undefeated but for Minnesota this, you cannot fall another game back after the bears went on Thursday I like Minnesota and the urgency and the seven here. Slight Agreement I wanNA tell you in a minute why it's not four agreement. I think you're right though about. The Vikings, they obviously had a very bad game to start the year but Zimmer is a great coach. I mean he has the best ats record since he's become a coach of any coach in the NFL and. receive or has made all the difference. Seattle had twenty one scores this year nineteen touchdowns. Nineteen touchdowns in two field goals. Can you imagine that they've actually won all four there against the spread games but three of the four have been by one and a half points or less. So in each game calling if were to would have been one more field going one less touchdown. In each game, they'd be one in three against the spread and still there touchdown percentage will be way above average. So Seattle has been lucky with the touch out and let me just ask you a question, Seattle let's say they have the third best offense and let's say they have the third worst defense doesn't that mean they're an average team or maybe a little better because offense is more important Oh, I think they're the Weird to say. I think they're the worst great team in the League. How can with without defense? So you gotTA wonder why do they have no pass rush they Brian Fitzpatrick was. Ryan this is you gotta go to two in Miami he settled for field goals. He had plenty of time to throw. They don't create pass rush at all. No doubt, and here's my one caveat is you mentioned cousins does well on Sunday night but the reality is that. If you look at cousins anytime except one o'clock eastern. He has a thirty percent win percentage against the spread. Now, that's always the debate was stats. You look at the small sample size and Sunday night football or do you look at all the non one o'clock games I think it's debatable. But me and this is just the amazing thing is cousins at one eastern has a better ats record than any quarterback ever has for his career and he has a worse ats record. than any quarterback has played even for a couple years if it's not one o'clock, that makes me not WANNA play them. But if I had to I would play the Vikings Laurie Hernandez is getting voice heard hard of Gen Z. in getting to vote we all have a very big voice and we plan on using it. Every one of us has a reason to vote that's millions of voices that need to be heard. and. 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So I didn't love a lot of games on the board, the other two I had. I would have taken the points with the raiders I like that a lot. Okay. You like that. A Lot the the other game the bonus one let let's talk the game that people are talking about Pittsburgh minus seven Philadelphia Mike. Tomlin's nine and four off is the eagles are still beat up. The steelers arrested in healthy defenses. Exceptional. I probably probably would say Pittsburgh minus seven very little conviction. How does how are the tell my audience? What are the wiseguys say on that game? I tell you this is a tough one I mean I'd say the wise guys typically are going to be on the eagles I think the more modern wise guys who aren't afraid to lay points are going to be steelers I'll give it a slight disagreement. Amazing thing about the eagles and I'd like to get your thoughts on this. What did you think of them? What adjustment did you make after Sunday night football last week I didn't 'cause. My takeaway is Ben Carson Wentz does what he does make stuff work San Francisco with a backup quarterback is not dynamic enough to blow them out I don't think Philadelphia can beat elite offenses but when you give them backup quarterbacks average teams Carson. Wentz will be the best quarterback on the field and he'll just sort Of will his way to win but I think they have very good defensive line personnel when sleighs healthy I liked their corners but they're wide receiving an offensive line cores are injury riddled and sometimes not as good as advertised. So I don't change anything the structure Philadelphia more than the personnel, Philadelphia I. Like their GM, their coach, their quarterback but you didn't think any more of them know that win. Seven point. Kyle Shanahan. Can't win even Kyle Shanahan can't win without at least a quarterback in this league what is he these twenty one and six with Garoppolo and San Francisco, he's like four in something without him. So this is a hard league to win when you have a bad quarterback. Yeah. So what I would say is this the win I. think it wasn't super impressive I think the quarterbacks for the forty niners Kinda. gave it to him, but it's at least it's. A Win and after you tie Cincinnati and I've been watching some of those post game shows streaming, they are going crazy in Philly. The win is what they needed and usually off a win, you might worry about a letdown often underdog upset like that but they're not gonNa let down here and I also think last thing big bands wind in about all I was in a rhythm I didn't want that time off I. Love Big Ben I'm steeler Fan. But he loves the complain. So to me, it feels like Tomlin who you always say not buttoned up I think when there's a plan by he's fine but you do something like this with no notice I'm not sure if he has the infrastructure to really take advantage of the time off. So I'm GonNa go slight Eagles advantage by the way you said, you love the raiders this week I I didn't set up for anything I, mean listen. Here's what I Know Josh Jacobs in two games has been really really good against the chiefs and their offense is converting like fifty three percent of third down. So they can keep the ball away from a homes. I just I just don't like betting against Patrick. Because he the back door covers, it always feels frightening to me because he can score so quickly but you like the raiders, here's why think about this Baltimore, Monday New England Monday covert scare potentially fatiguing. Game and then next Thursday Thursday at. Buffalo. So if there's any where they're going to be flat and not be looking so much for margin just get through the game I think he's going to be here. That's an interesting I didn't even know what that's good. So we both loved the colts against Cleveland this week. Yes for sure. Okay. Rj Bell pregame.com Monday through. Friday. 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02/17/2021 - Best of Straight Outta Vegas

Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

27:48 min | Last month

02/17/2021 - Best of Straight Outta Vegas

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Billing required terms apply sports radio jones. When you look at the reporting on this is it. Was this something that was like a press release was done on or was there a sense of was this a houston. Leak was essay carolina leak. What did you say i mean. That's just the guy who covers them for. espn covers the panther. And we don't have any. We don't have any sense if he had someone. Tell him off the record or he was kind of fed. The story backchannel. Not sure that's what he was reporting on publicly. I don't see any reason that this would be something that the houston texans would one public because all it does is put pressure on the houston texans to respond if you hear. Hey someone's offering some person acts a job and say okay Yeah they're offering four hundred thousand a year really all of a sudden it's a conversation of sidon when the offer is above what you might think is standard all of a sudden. It's a that guy's got maybe talk to his wife. That guy's gotta in general. I think david tamper the owner of carolina. Who in let's get this straight because we're going to be talking about him a lot over the next five ten years. I'm sure he is probably the best operator amongst thirty two owners because he cut his teeth and he rose to the top of field hedge funds and we can get political about hedge funds. We can get ethical. We can talk spiritually. We can do a lot of things right. We can talk about is tax rates. but we can't debate is how competitive hedge fund that field is literally there's twenty five year old analysts that are making two or three million dollars a year and hedge funds. They're like the guy that doesn't even get or the cow doesn't even get to say mr tamper how you doing when he walks by multiple millions these guys make you know ten billion in a good deal. Five billion in a good year the level of competition. It's the smartest of the smart that also have some type of mental illness. Not all of them saying he does that. They work seventy hours a week. There's that weird is calm and got lucky like that's who is acts from capitol as depicted on billions. And that's who tamper is not necessarily the guy acts amazingly. That's the do that owns. The mets supposedly is the guy acts based cone based off of but temper as successful as anyone in this field. He's got teams of people on this and he started out. And it's my belief this is about putting pressure on the taxes not just potentially trade them but trade watson sooner because if your carolina and you wanna take a step this year remember they were very involved with the lions and stafford and it was a situation where they were my understanding is they offered the eighth pick in the draft. I think it is for stafford and lot of people think. Maybe i should've taken it because it was this year. What but they were competitive and aggressive air. They want another quarterback they want teddy bridgewater to be a backup which is probably his role. If you wanna get make the playoffs bridgewater's probably not the quarterback to bring you. The play is not impossible. Get him ranked number seventeen. And i would say i try to domestic yes. Why why because you bet against him twice when he was five with the same four times and one thousand four and his win streak then yes. Hi you're honest. that's the starting point to fix it. I'm rj bell. So jonas do you a. does it make sense to you. An aficionado of the media. That this wouldn't just come out for no reason. This was intentional. It was likely from the carolinas side and naturally feels like it is. The intention is to put pressure on houston meaning to shake the tree texans to get him to make the move. I hadn't thought about that aspect of it. I don't think it's i don't think it's outside the realm of possibility. It's why else would it be out. I think that there's carolina's trying to give the impression that they are being aggressive and really aggressive and that's why why would it come out. Afterwards that they offer it up the eighth pick and teddy bridgewater to try and get matt stafford. It's like that's the part. I'm struggling with and i don't know that it's to to get houston to make a move because it feels like that would just up the offers around the league towards the texans or and to me that's i don't know how that would benefit carolina see. That's the thing i think. This is a great conversation. Because i think we know for sure is if they do trade them it will be a mother lode that they get back and it will be hyper competitive right so if you know that anyway get things started it strikes me and i think he gets watson. It strengthens his resolve. Because let's be honest if you've got a five year horizon. How many teams do you have. Back in napkin fez. And maybe i'll ask it and give you a minute on it. What i'm gonna ask you i'll ask jonas is. How many teams would you put ahead of the panthers with a five year horizon amongst teams. Don't have a clear starting quarterback that is not going to be displaced right. The you know. Obviously the steelers have big ben in theory starting but he's getting displaced father time is coming in and saying wrench to and but even miami they've got a starter but to is shaky but there's certain places like the rams are looking for a starter right now right so the cat. Now the cowboys. Yes so i think unless it's clearly they've got their quarterbacks let's open it up to that watson could replace him. I would put carolina top five with the five year horizon. I love the coach. I loved the owner. I love everything they're doing. They got brady. As oh see i mean what. Do you think jones who you got your list fast. Yes i go. i've got sixteen. Kansas city so you think mahomes is gonna get displaced. No then why you say. Kansas say we only want teams. That don't have a rock solid starter. Because because really if you think about it. Watson isn't right. He's a quarterback jones. Where do you got. I would put them in the top five. It's too hard to tell what what quarterback is going to be. There obviously would be an easier question to answer if we knew okay. They've got watson or they've committed to bridgewater because you know that's where their commitment levels at. I think this is not you mean. And i think this is a critical off-season towards looking at their future because if they land watson or they go and get a quarterback in the draft and they're clearly in the market obviously for a quarterback upgrade if that's the case and they find the right guy. There's a lot there that you gotta like similar to. What was happening in san francisco. And i think a lot of it goes back to. We talked about it at the time when they gave matt rule that long contract and basically said you're our guy and they outbid for him because there were other teams out there that wanted matt rule as well and they said you're our guy and we'll even give you extra years to figure this thing out. I think they put the plan in place at that moment. Yeah i agree with that and if you really think about it and you look through if you look at twenty year type horizons. The ownership is as important as anything. Think about it patriots. The great ownership steelers great ownership the teams. That win win and win. That seems to be the common theme. So be sure to catch. Live editions of straight outta vegas weekdays at six pm eastern three. Pm pacific on fox sports radio in the iheartradio app. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. Is that shakespeare no. It's gyco shakespeare from one of his unpublished works to be not for awakening. Give the berries. 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So let's think of the premise of jonas sat up. And don't forget about two years ago right here on this show on these airwaves. I said during the zeke. Hold out in kabo. I said where does it end. Where does it end because when you were at the point where literally the rules at the time and the rules are that just was the beginnings of the ability for dallas. Extend them they couldn't have extended him a month before it was all legal. It's someone turning sixteen and a month later. They're suing their parents because they don't have a car yet to all right. I don't know about ever doing that but maybe wait a couple years. No no it's like you can. Actually you could opt me three days ago. I'm outta here. I'm going to call. That seemed a little out of bounce. Where is it going to end. Well now we have a situation with the shawn watson. Now think about this a second. We have a guy that has a no trade clause demanding a trade so he literally gets to say. Oh i know. I just signed a you know what five year contract for hundreds of millions of dollars but i decided i don't like it here anymore and i don't want to be forced to say here and make a half billion in the next five years or whatever close to it right and we can debate that. I think it goes against watson. And i love watson as a player i love everything i hear about him off the field. You know. I don't know. But i got no problem with him. He's a winner. I love winners. I mean won a national title. But i don't understand how a person that the team can't trade can demand trade and then somehow dictate where he gets traded to now. That sounds like pure free agency which exists but not when you're in the middle of not in the middle at the beginning of a five year contract the thing that no one wants to say because almost every host and i don't blame him for this they wanna put themselves off as part of the proletariate. They're part of the working class so they're gonna be on the side of the players because that's the fans are on most time like come on a lot of these radio guys are making a million five million ten million a year. They're not part of the working class. Just forget that but the further they get from it the more they act like it. So let's be candid here. How is it that the owners have to abide by contracts and the players. Don't if the owner said oh aaron rodgers who signed an all-cash people say well the donors can cut him anytime. What well. Yeah because that's the deal that was signed. You can sign a deal like aaron rodgers. Did that said it's all cash. It all guaranteed. And i think if i'm not mistaken. Cousins has almost all guaranteed money. You have leverage you can negotiate a no trade clause negotiate. Whatever you want but then you gotta deal. You can't do business if deals don't count so let's start there and it's nothing against watson but a guy with a no trade clause is demanding a trade and that's he gets dictate where he goes but now we're going to go one step. Further as jones said in his sat up. And you're right in that. That's the perception. Jones is is going to decide where he goes. Why so i'm confused. Sign a long term deal. He doesn't even have a no trade clause but now he gets to decide where he gets traded to. Yeah and and that's the that's the part of this. That doesn't add up. It's it's a guy who clearly is damaged goods for lack of a better term They can't they can't up to this point get a first round pick form so not only is he now not worth what he was when he came into the league but now he's also trying to dictate where it is. He's going to play football next and as we discussed them. Hiring serianni was choosing. When's over the coach who had just won a super bowl pass. So i think that was probably a smart move if you had lock-in from whence but why they're going to lose both the coach and wentz and as much as i wasn't a huge peterson lover. I mean it's hard to think he wasn't better than what this unknown that serianni right now. That no one even knew. Let's be candid. No one knew his name. He wasn't like some super well known. How coordinator it was. Because he was with wentz. Think about it it was. He was not even with wentz right but he was with right now. Most recently and reich was with went. So is this once removed. He was with went so they hire the guy. And then when says. Oh that's a nice gesture trade me and by the way i don't want to go to the bears and by the way make sure my check hits. Don't delay that check even one day. My whatever whatever a million dollar check or whatever it is now million forget that they get what sixteen game checks right the way it goes to the nfl. And he's making how much thirty four point seven I'm gonna do some math here. That's over two million two million a freaking week and he's pointing in dictating. Where is it gonna end jonas. You were skeptical. you thought. Who did i get a show with. That was saying that two years ago moved directionally towards me on this. I mean i've always. Oh yes he said no. That can't be the answer. I've always that there is there. Is this thing in the media where they want more access or whatever it is but they're feels like a push to side with players at all costs and to me. I just think each situation is different in the case of shawn watson. I don't understand how people are okay with what he's doing. It doesn't make any sense to me. I don't i don't get how he's getting a pass and the carson wentz stuff is just bizarre that he still thinks that he can gets working. It's it's apparently. Yeah where's it gonna and i'll tell you this. Let's assume the wentz reporting is accurate. Okay we can't be sure but let's assume that for a second. I think is more egregious because you can make the following case had a monster year. It was his best year. I think the case could be made behind rogers. You had the second best. You're better than mahomes. If so it'd be a it'd be small but he's right there in the conversation you know it's funny is a quarterback rankings. Like it's like the ten commandments there. You're ranking you're looking on yes that's right. I'm going to confirm that yes. That's your rankings. On the beauty watson is his ceiling is so high. It wouldn't surprise any of us two years from now if watson was the best quarterback in the nfl right. I think certainly with aaron rodgers hidden an know an age dragged to some point. I think the who knows right. Okay so the question is how much of a shortfall how short of the contract is carson wentz falling. Because you could make the case. Even with the jumbo contract watson exceeded it last year. And i also to finish comparison jonas. In my opinion you could make the case if you looked at it with you. Know your eyes skew and squinted. Houston's changed a lot in the last year or so hasn't changed since he signed the contract. But you know different coach. Jj watt gone. The owner passed away now. The sons there this. I'm having a mental block the The spiritual consultant valo jackie. Yeah easterby in and apparently had a huge influence you and also under the deceased owner. There was comments that i think fairly could be taken as racially insensitive so you but but since most of that if not all of it happened before watson sign the and the beginning of last year. I'm not sure how much of an excuse it is. But i think it helps the narrative little even though the timelines obvious to most casual observers. The weinstein feels like. Here's a guy sign a jumbo contract. He played horribly. He doesn't connect with his teammates. It seems and now he's making and we fired a coach over him and it still didn't size fine now he's saying i'm going to one team one team only tell me one is dying that that is that even for a fat i mean. Is there anything about that. That is like what it is right. Now it's accurate. Yeah and jones. You said i think because they went access we know in. You know better than me that if it is a beat writer it is someone who's embedded in a way with the team that is a trade off they gotta make zone put out there. They'll put out stuff that they won out as long as they think it's true they're not gonna put out lies but in. Listen that's part of the game. I it's if you're gonna cry about that. You're gonna know if i cry about that. You're about everything. But i'm saying and i'm not talking about anyone in particular because all of them are doing. Why does national host x y z and. I'm not saying though is. I haven't heard klay on this. Do we have any sense of work lays out on this jones. I'm not sure. I think he's a guy that will go against the grain. It seems sometimes. I know doug god. Leaves been outspoken against dis- shawn watson strategy. Okay yeah i'd i don't understand. He was outspoken. It's the draymond green strategy. Just this idea that it's victimhood and all the other things that go along with it. It's no it's part of business. You signed a contract. What are we doing here. And we're gonna think fits into this because the draymond situation fundamentally changes sports. What he's saying. And i'm not even saying that it doesn't have mary. It's a but let's understand would it. Is he saying. Be sure to catch. Live editions straight outta vegas weekdays at six pm eastern three. Pm pacific good afternoon. Would you like to try a free. Sample of our double fudge brownie. Oh sure that's very good. I'll just take one more just to be sure yup still very good. Some things never change like never being able to take just one free sample and geico saving folks. 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You give your kid when you send him to the neighbors and they don't want him but you gotta get him outta the house for a couple of hours. That's what the first round pick was and the question is what. How does jared goff compared to his contract compared to wince and whence thirty four point seven million gov twenty seven point eight now in physics ten commandments or thirty two commandments of quarterback ranking what wentz twentieth. Gov twenty fift- so we ran. We ranked the quarterbacks last year. One to thirty two and said okay. What's the twentieth quarterback get. What's the twenty fifth quarterback it. Then we subtracted that number where they should be paying for that performance from the contract and this is what we got. Carson wentz's shortfall last year was twenty four million dollars from thirty four point seven versus the slot at number twenty. I think twenty's generous very generous. But okay jared goff shortfall twenty million carson wentz. His contract is three more years. Goff's is too so literally by saying if they play like last year which would be the best year to tell us how they're gonna play. Carson wentz is seventy two million dollars overpaid the next three years. Golf is forty one million overpaid and goff. They had to give a first round pick along with him to take the contract but they're going to get what for wentz. Jonas is that analysis with you. yeah it's it carson wentz. I would say right now. Jared goff is a better quarterback ben carson wentz and that's true. Gosh sheree certainly was one hundred percent. And even i don't know i mean how. Many starters in the nfl from last season had worse years than carson once i mean by some stats none. That's meaning the qbr you worship as where was this qbr. Twenty-seventh yeah so you just you're going on pedigree and listen and part of pedigree matters right but if he had been fined year before he wasn't for all your food is out there. 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Ravens and Chiefs Monday Night showdown

First Take

36:00 min | 7 months ago

Ravens and Chiefs Monday Night showdown

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No mahomes must have a bigger impact for the chiefs to win and it's very simple. Ravens given up twenty two point so far this season, not not in this season the chiefs defense looks like it's progress. It looks like I thought the chiefs defense is a little bit underrated by. The, end of two years ago. But last year they're pretty good and that was the real difference they went from. The should have won the super bowl two years ago. Anyway. But they went from not quite getting there to winning the Super Bowl that defense has not shown up yet this season but the ravens look like they're defending super bowl champions the way they play defense. So yes, Lamar. A unique offense built around the more Jackson but mahomes is going to have to ball all the way out to beat this raven steep. So it's in fact, Patrick Mahomes who has to have the bigger game I understand acting respect where you're coming from just respectfully disagree because that Baltimore's offense is about Lamar Jackson and nothing else I know. Can Play Hollywood Brown's no Scrub Andrews Scrub I get a Boykin, there's no scrub. But in the end, let's face reality here they got the number three offense and the number three Russian attack because they've got Lamar Jackson he's completing seventy seven percent of his bass as a throwing interceptions don't four touched out. All of that. So good he's good. But the reality is, is if you really really look at his numbers right now, he's also the leading Russia on the team. So you gotta take that into consideration if you take away the threat that he poses running the football. The offense ain't even average. That's what we have to look at here when I think about Patrick Mahomes I think about Tyreek Hill I think about Sammy Watkins I think about Travis I think about you know. I know this brother what he did last year at Lsu. Nine I remember I remember my point is Damian Williams might be looking for a job because this not Magi didn't have a big game last week but we one hundred, thirty, eight yards rushing. We can't ignore what we saw in do in the end if you take away even the greatness of the Great Patrick Mahomes, you still have some bona fide weapons that an average quarterback they come in the relatively decent not anything near Patrick. But what album Oh. What are you have in? Because he is the one that literally enables them to look as good as they look you can't Patrick I'm when you look at Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey was looking good before Patrick Mahomes have arrived tyreek Hill was looking good before Patrick mahomes ravaged quarterback making comebacks in the front. I told the I. Get that but he wasn't making that they were looking good before he got there. It is in the case that these brothers at Baltimore everything evolves around the mall. Jack I feel that way too. But here's the problem. Here's why it's Lamar Jackson and here's why yellow both looking at this too small get the question is Lamar Jackson. The question is about winning tonight. So this is so much bigger than tonight because in the regular season. Lamar Jackson's twenty one in one against everybody else in the world, but he's in into. Against Patrick mahomes right and so there's no. There's no indictment who Lamar Jackson is in the regular season we in and week out. There's no there's no question about Kennedy produce right but it goes to the playoffs and he says in the playoffs, you can't do it. Well, who are you gonNA have to see in the playoffs, the Kansas City chiefs of Patrick Mahomes and in the playoffs it's about winning when the stakes are higher when the Games are big Lamar Jackson has to play from behind he can't do the same things. This team isn't the same. This game takes on this game takes on a bigger view for Lamar, Jackson than it does for Patrick Mahomes already won a super bowl who's already a super bowl MVP. So the Mark Jackson not only has to win this game as a team because I agree with you in this, it's a better overall team. It's a better defense, but Lamar Jackson has to outplay Patrick Mahomes when he says he's not playing Patrick Mahomes. He's wrong. Every time we looked across the field when I play for the steelers and we saw Ed Reed, and we saw Ray Lewis. Troy. James Farrior James Harrison, we'd all say we got outplayed him. We gotta be bad point like. A medical sense? You're absolutely right in the biggest possible picture. You're absolutely right. Here's my question to you. I. Lamar Jackson is an extremely accurate passer this year and for his age historically, he's been inaccurate pastor every year in the league but the past is very much set up by the run that's back to the matter take the runaway. The passing is not as good. Patrick Mahomes can run, but everything is set up with his passing ability. Here's the question. Can Lamar Jackson set up the run with the past is he good enough to do that because when he's good enough to do that, they'll win the super bowl but until then they may not well, if you watch now so he's Qbr this year's ninety seven right with this pocket pass dropback passes and he's evolving as set up by the threat of the likely. But here's the thing just because just because the guy can don't doesn't mean he has to go out and shoot three pointer. So he can show you and get to the late and that's the same thing with Lamar Jackson. He has a special talent that special talent has added to what the Baltimore Ravens. Are On offense. So don't take that away and it's not necessarily the Roy has to be effective on the same day you WanNa, get the past going. It's the fact that the run threat is always there and vets the scary thing when you play a Lamar Jackson team even if he only Russia's fifty yards in the game or the Russian attack doesn't kill you you gotta have eight two balls. So now Hollywood Brown is by himself Andrew was by himself. So to me this team tonight, it's not about how great the Baltimore Ravens played defense it's how much can. Lamar. Jackson outplay Patrick Mahomes in the game that two weeks Patrick Mahomes hasn't been himself he wants to prove. That you're completely right because in a two games that he's lost a Patrick Mahomes, they lost twenty, seven, twenty four and they lost thirty three, twenty eight first time around remember he didn't start that season Jackson came and laid on season due for about one hundred, sixty, seven yards I got it lasts for like two hundred, sixty seven yards but then throw a touchdown Patrick mahomes has don't over three hundred, seventy yards, bowl times he's going against Lamar Jackson. So you do you are absolutely right because based on the score and how we saw. Them perform. It literally has come down to Patrick mahomes being that different's gets Lamar Jack but that means that if he's not they lose like this is my point in the big if you WanNa not change the question but change affective take a step back. You're right I can't argue against that point it's very good one but for the purposes of this game in order for the chiefs to win mahomes has got to plan because defense isn't as good like if mahomes doesn't do that superman stuff, how are they going to beat the Ravens? No you're right. You're right about that for four tonight Patrick Mahomes has to do Patrick Mahomes gotta be Patrick Mahomes. He hasn't been to me the first two weeks of the season, and so I think this game takes a. Sits sets a bigger tone for him, but may Lamar Jackson has so much riding on him when it comes to what the Baltimore Ravens on he wanted one against everyone we. Heck's real quick. I. Got the Ravens Won. I'm taking the chiefs always. Does. ME. Wrong. I'm going to go with the Ravens tonight. Okay let's get it. A little break it all down tomorrow. Your miles go further with the capital one venture card the travel card that lets you were an unlimited miles for more than just air travel right now earn one, hundred, thousand bonus miles. You can actually use redeemable for vacation rentals, car rentals and more when you spend twenty thousand dollars. First Year. What's in your wallet? Limited time offer terms apply see capital one dot com for details. Back. Falcons fans look away. The bears roared back from trailing by sixteen points only seven minutes to go. Thanks to the fourth quarter heroics a backup puberty Nick foles after Mitch Trubisky was benched in the third foles finished with one hundred, eighty yards three TD's to lease team to the win and a three and start. Let's hear from both quarterbacks. Coach. Laser kind of happened out of nowhere who's just said nick is up and. And that was that so. I. I just accepted the news I. I had mixed backley like He. He's had mine and Situation Suck. But it was just the fo the game hours happening coach May decision that he that was best routine where he's been it's not easy. But he he he was ordering me one hundred percent. I know the emotions are real because I've been there. I've been there recently. Stephen Egg bears are three. All Nick foles should be named the starter now, right? No not yet. But before I say that the one thing I do want to say about Mitchell trubisky that somebody needs to tell them that the only thing about and right now that looks good is his face. The fact that he doesn't have any acne or anything like that I don't know what? SCOPE of. Whatever I'm just saying I'm kind of. Somebody that has to pay attention to this. I tried to get my facebook. Now you're GONNA says he doesn't have any acne problems that's about it out of that everything was bad about nick about Mitch trubisky right now having said all of that here's what I want to remind people nick foles had a really really nice wrong with the Philadelphia Eagles costs and Went Ben Carson Wentz went down and twenty seventeen he led them to a super bowl we got that we know what he did in twenty thousand eighteen. Okay. Because causing gets hurt again, he guides them to the postseason of victory over wasn't Chicago New Orleans I know he won one. Lost the I think he lost all these but he beat Chicago with either one or the other bottom line is he was showing four last year. Okay and even though he was injured in Jacksonville or what have you before that year those two years of Philadelphia he was struggling last year he struggled when you give them the keys too early is my point nick foles votes. So to me you wait late I'm not saying he shouldn't be Scott up but let him be the star as the season progresses ten eleven, twelve games into the season. You got about four five weeks ago you need to make that stretch because Amerada Hess is doing his thing do brees Tom. Brady might be doing that thing in the south, of course, whether it's Garoppolo mullet. Golf or Russell Wilson they're doing in the West Western somebody got to come out of the NFC when you did. Then you bring Nick foles in you bring him in now is to damn early and then he'll mess up and if he messes up then you gotta go back to. bisky has so it can't be relied upon what would we do that too early in a perfect world you're absolutely right in a perfect world. Ideally, this would've happened on the back nine, right? But here we are, and here's the thing about Nick foles. Everyone thinks it's just like this magic pixie dust you spreads right? He's not really talented. When I moved out to La to do LA radio. I never really watched the PAC twelve to. Mentioned la but go ahead and I never watched the. Too, tough at that point because not too much going on there but I looked at the quarterback Matt Barkley he was a big deal in la SC and he was considered if not for Andrew Luck. Player in the PAC twelve, I watched nick foles carve-up SC at Arizona everyone was given Brock Osweiler a lot of press I was like, Okay Andrew Luck is the best nick foles clearly the second best quarterback in the pack twelve right that was college. He turns throw the First Time He gets coaching where works with? Twenty seven touchdowns, two interceptions chip Kelly. It's not a mirage when you actually given the responsibility of team with the right coaching for him he's not do so uber talented any team it's going to work with the right coaching. He performs extremely well then you look at the eagles, he wins the Super Bowl the net super bowl mvp the very next season key plays them into the play offs. Right when gets hurt when they weren't going to be in the playoffs keep Pete's the bears on the Road at defense people say they win the Super Bowl he then goes to new. Orleans almost beat the saints on the road. Every time you give him the right coaching Nick Foles is a winner. What happened with the bears yesterday we're not mid falls through three or four, th quarter touchdown. Again against the Falcons yes. But here's the founder. So here's here's two ways. The Falcons play into this one. You understand what Nick foles did against the Falcons is it new Russell Wilson? Did it we watched Dak Prescott do it, and then Nick foles comes in and do does it but who couldn't? Who Was it Mitchell trubisky metro trubisky, and that's your issue for as much as we want to say great things about Nick foles. It's not about nick foes the San Francisco Forty niners they're more like the San Francisco thirty nine years now because they don't have all their people, right? Right. They played the New York giants and they absolutely crazy mullins brandon Jordan re looking like the Joe Montana but you knew had a terrible secondhand. He Nicholson threw two interceptions against the New York giants last week Mitchell trubisky see that's your issue but I, still believe that's the reason that Matt Nagy Wi with him because he said we know which guy can come off the bench and play we know a guy has the fortitude to say you know what I didn't win the job right away but whenever I'm pressed the play I can go. It's Nick foles. What about the way his teammates respond to you agree with me no I don't why WanNa don't you made the move they were planning on this move. Risk wasn't awful yesterday he was bad but I've seen him worse. They were waiting for the interception they were waiting for opportunity because when they picked him at the beginning of the year, they knew this time was would come I agree with you. They hope they will be on the backstretch. You hope that you would be in the playoff run. Mitchell does some things and now you can put nick foles it's over you can't pull that dude week three against the Atlanta Falcons who were at the time they are stopping you out and then say you know what? Mitch go back out there because what are you telling your team? You're telling your team you don't know you're telling me. I'm not. Even, I feel you. But I just think because of who nick foles is and what he has proven to be, and you know that you have that safety blanket available to you I think you can stretch it out because what you can't do listen you're worried nick foles just came off and injury y'all durability is not as and. So when you have that as a problem, you want to safeguard him as much as you possibly can. To bisky could know that Nick foles is coming in he could no inevitable. But if you buy yourself Tom and you find a way to win games I think you can pull out when you look at Mitchell trubisky on asylum yesterday with his helmet on like Ricky Williams interview right after practice that looked like a dude that you could play around with. All that you think is Nano it's over but let me let me ask about why are we assuming? Okay health aside because you could say that about a couple quarterbacks around the league, why are we assuming that he can't be a real quarterback for a championship team wire-to-wire like? Full. Okay. Because folds when he was full had fisher is a coach at one right come on we gonNA hold that against him. He goes to a team that is not good and he gets his money right and we gonNA really hold that against them not a good one. They looked a little better than they actually were before we got there every time he's had a realistic opportunity with the right coaching he's been excellent. Why do we assume he just kept? So Molly can I get in here with coaching real quick because I want to go the other side of it with the Atlanta Falcons. Dan. Quinn. We know what he did with the seahawks when he was a defensive coordinator, is it time to? The last week I said it last week you stop him to go. because. First of all defense is supposed to be your signature. I'm very big. I'm a stickler for this. Do Your job I whatever your job is how did you become a head coach? It's because what did is a coordinator and there you go and you have the biggest collapse and super bowl history when you give up a twenty eight to three lead and they've never recovered so because you've had three years and we've seen the going in the wrong direction that plummeting before our very eyes, you've got a thirty million experienced quarterback Matt. You Got Calvin Ridley and Julio Jones and you can't manage to win you if somebody spots you twenty points at the very least anyway here's. The Falcons are mad ago be has gotta go what happens though when when the Falcons get twenty eight we got. That's right because they make this team is twenty four and twenty six since the collapse against the New England patriots right and if you continue to lose in this manner, if you will find that new ways to lose a new problems, but this team gets in the team that they're facing go. We still have a chance because it's the Atlanta Falcons and then landed fountains on their sidelines go. Hey, guys though the team still has a chance because we're the Atlanta Falcons that starts at the top win and it's not even because talent but it's because they're not. They're not all their problem is when their failure on every level when they're special teams failures when there's offense failures when there's defensive errors, it can only go to the top. Okay. So how much of that go to me? It felt like the Falcons were a little ahead of the curve offensively when they were really really good. Then the League tends to catch up like I'm looking at mcvay in L. A. thinking he's ahead of the Curve Everyone's bewildered then the league adjusted lesser season. Now he's making another adjustment. How much of it is that the league kind of adjusted that the falcons, and maybe Quinn has not readjust. Response to that is it doesn't matter because it's his job to figure that out just like the League is figuring out. What is going to happen by switching out coaches right. Get Worse. No it can't get worse is. That, they can't get worse it could get worse out of heartbreak. To me, it's about making the decision and saying that what's going on is not above the line that we will not allow it as an organization. So now you put the players on notice as well as look man, we are bound cleaning house because we are about winning. When you let this continue to go on and you start to let these things happen. But people are people our age and people aren't trying to be better by the way as an aside you brought a Fisher when you mentioned nick foles let's make sure our audience understands who you talk about. Let's not. We know ask starts name. Bobby Fisher. Fisher. County. Whoever? Target about. To laundry I get home. I have to like all my clothes over to the washing machine then I get to them in the dryer. Accidentally, Shrink Mike Has Mir sweater again. Motorcycles make everything exciting and when Geigo makes it easy to switch and save on motorcycle insurance. It's even more exciting going to fold all my thoughts into little balls. GEICO motorcycle fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. To laundry when I get home. I have to like all my clothes over to the washing machine. Then I get to quit them in the her. Accidentally shrink my cashmere sweater again. Motorcycles make everything exciting and when Geigo makes it easy to switch and save on motorcycle insurance, it's even more exciting to fold all my socks into little balls. GEICO motorcycle fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. How about those rams came back from a twenty five point deficit against the bills. But that wasn't quite enough to the now three. No Buffalo team led by Josh Allen, the Big Story from that game pass interference fallen fourth-down that led to the game winning touchdown. That's why we need a former Devi here to break down. But I'll start with the Ivy League Grad Max for the Rams Roths I that. They weren't robbed it was it was a bad call like I think it was a bad call although. I've seen worse. Well he wasn't really throw into a resilient. That happens they get a little rough and and then of quarterback maybe gets away with one or something like it happens and I think what people are reacting to our overreacting to his you're seeing this historical comeback right So that drama you don't want decided on a Pi on I think that's what people are reacting to. Can't say they got robbed Josh L. Five touchdowns you're GonNa say they got rock the bills are an excellent team and they're a well rounded excellent team and their quarterback who's still in the MVP I, know it's three still in the MVP conversation with Russell. Wilson and let's see what happens tonight. Five touchdown passes but no, it's the Pi call that robbed the rams come on stop. It was probably a bad coal I. think it was a bad goal. People are reacting to the fact that they didn't want to see a game decided on that they wanted to see drama but first of all the Games Asadabad unofficial in most people's eyes that were qualified that would qualify as being robbed and that's why I. Believe they were robbed because they were down by twenty five points they came back. They had the lead. Okay. Here you are in a situation where was it? Was it third or fourth and eighth? Right? Gabrielle Davis. If I remember correctly identifies name. Darius Williams. They're literally tugging on other. The official has no business interfering with a play like that. Let them play. Let them play. We watch the players play. We understand that obvious things that you just can't allow transportation because rules are rules and we get all of that. But when something is going on and it's even kill is fifty fifty it's me against you with the game on the line and the official is the one that makes the call to save the date and it's so highly questionable. Qualifies as robbery and that's what I think was transpiring here. Now, if the bills would've won down twenty five and they came back and the game got saved or something, I still wouldn't like it but it would be a bit different but donald was a monster in the second half about five different presidents about quarterback was all over the place just a monster he was all over the place. And Josh Allen and that offense was relatively a significantly neutralize. So if you're not doing anything and then the official is the one that comes and saves you think qualifies as robbery. Like. I was rocket with you and I was jogging witching I was on the Peleton, which is then I had the Joe Ball like a rat on the motorcycle rg three used to run the football because you roam. No it's a terrible right Darius Williams is him and Gabriel Davis up Josh Allen gets pressured. So he throws the ball it's not even officials don't even know that. But I could be right I could be wrong but I can't be no hypocrite because I sat up here two years ago after NFC championship and I say, yeah, it was a terrible call but guess who had an opportunity to win the game the New Orleans saints because they had more please. The Rams had an opportunity to win this game before this and they did all those things you said, they did they also head third and twenty two. And then it had third and twenty five to passes the cold Beasley put forth eight. You got to go make a play and then you have place to make after that and get it. We referees to swallow their whistles at that point Stephen Right the same way that we saw I. think it was it was Milwaukee. Milwaukee Miami and they got the bad calls at the end you shoot the bowels. Jimmy. Butler gets to the free throw. Hard. We don't WanNa see those things but if that's the way official see that's the way to officials have to call it I want to ask you something about like I. Think it was probably a bag, but I'm not nearly as strong Oh my God the claver saw because there was some rough housing at the bottom line is the receiver grabbed. The Derek with. Derek. Grabbing you've got the rat no, but but argued and official could argue. That really did affect the play didn't appear to me but that was the last dude holding on now you know like sometimes people getting a fight but then everybody is mad at the dude that wins that's what was happening there. There is Williams was just winning. He had him locked up off the line. It's a bad call because he was never in his route Josh Josh. Allen. Is just throwing the ball up and situation where they're still pressed up in man that's why they get the call if. That's that's in the space within five yards. You still have your hands on the wide receiver. The plays actually called a pass interference because the ball is in the air. And it wasn't right. But if you watch Davis is breaking inside because that was the route Josh. L. is getting rid of it. It's a terrible call Stephen I agree with you in it but Aaron Donald balling coming back down from twenty-five none of that matters to the official the official. Can't refuse to make a call that he feels he has to make because the rams were playing good. Well, I'm not going applying that at all. What I'm saying is is that because it was such a tossup, you do have an I've always been I'm not going to be a hypocrite either because I'm very consistent about this particularly when it comes to the NBA when it's off grabs, let the players decide. Let the players decide I'm not saying ignore or call. That's obvious. I'm not implying that should transpire. What I'm trying to say is that like you said, he wasn't even a Gabriel Davis wasn't even in his route they will definitely tug on one another. It was a highly highly questionable call why you decided because let's face I get upset at this notion that referees shouldn't be human like just call it right excuse me. You have to take the moment into consideration yes. Mark Davis if I remember correctly the NBA references that made the call. Yonathan yes I thought it was an awful call. Forgive me. If it elevates exponentially because my God, you're talking about this Taj School and you're going to hand the Miami Heat. Tom On o'clock. Like James Harden might flop and get a call at the end of the game. If Josh Allen doesn't throw the ball. There's no chance to even get the call, and this is a dude who threw five touchdowns that game. So luck is the residue of design I think. So so here's the other piece with being with being a toss up if they don't make the call or we have in the same discussion about the buffalo bills, are we saying the buffalo bills should have gotten sued have gotten the defensive pass interference and they didn't and it would have an opportunity to win the game I don't think it's all. The huge deal, the huge deal that makes it different what you're talking about with the Jimmy Butler situation it's time they at least have a change you go into overtime. If you don't call this, you think it's a pass interference. The game is over for the Buffalo Bills Right. That's four. My my personal opinion is that we wouldn't have been talking about that much. We were talking about how the Bills Blue Twenty, five point lead we were caught off romping lion. In the drama of the comeback, that's why it's music made such a big deal. person not only matters right now because actually picked topics that way other than I mean it really wouldn't matter. He's like I'll tell you. We'd be talking about adjusted. That's the object that is show take notes. NFL Lab. Dan Ross might come to haunt them down the stretch. We know how tough Z. West is trying to get the wild card again into the playoffs. This place. Look haunted. Think. So what about those two creepy girls come stay with us? Truly frightening. Fairly. Siri. Missing on a guy goes great service with Geico you get twenty four, seven access to licensed agents. Thank you creepy girls to see her room. We're GONNA sleep in the car now. We switch today for twenty four, seven access to licensed agents. Here's a little message, for Stephen, A. Back I am dying right now. Perkins. You have made my life not only where you so good. Top Shell when you own these do but that picture I was just sitting here staring at teasing trying to be a professional. Is Hey Kirk? Molly looks Stephen Yuka blame Max for their pitcher because y'all debate was kind of even at the time until he bought a Jeff Hornacek, and then. Dale. An All star team. I. I. saw. that. When you bring up on a sec then. He could play come on. You may know he was an all-star listen listen listen I keep trying to tell you sometimes your best ball needs to be confiscated. COACHES AROUND BACK Though to be fair is it was Lebron is now closing the gap on Mj if he gets a win obviously because he's going to his ten finals and that's what it was all about. But that photo can I see it one more time? Please I just need to see their baby Chubby Arms Yeah So. My God Thank you. needed. I needed a smile like that. Yeah. No Problem Miami. attacked. Me You talking about that I looked sixty megs was. Trying to. My agent basically saying that I'm looking. Your always talked about how old do you say you`re Thirty five. Yeah that'll mean I look at. The. Different matter. You don't even mean to. Like a grumpy old man. You're thirty five. Let's say, what's your accidental? In. You. Know you made today may you had the whole ill? But Hey, you lost it today I. Mean You Dr Jeff Hornicek name? Steven they. Love to head the jump on their. That well, listen I didn't jump on a boat I jumped off minute he said on a sector let's not go camping. We're on the record like Hornicek was a horse. It wasn't a bad play was an all star. We can't be mentioning the same, I Thank you for that. That was gold Fellas I WANNA get into Monday night football though Stephen A. It is the chiefs in the ravens time who wins and tell me why role with the Ravens for tonight I just think that Lamar Jackson is do want against Patrick Mahomes I think that their defense obviously has been stellar although it was against Cleveland and Houston we Understand Kansas. City is a different animal but I think they Lamar Jackson is GonNa put on the show tonight. I. Think Kansas City's defense is highly suspect compared to what it's been even last year or the year before that, and as a result, this is one of those games will Lamar Jackson finally wins a regular season game against Patrick Mahomes have no good reason to take. The chiefs over the ravens except for the best one of all and that's Patrick. Mahomes. The Stat that Ryan Clark brought up earlier is staggering regular season. This Dude Lamar Jackson is twenty one and one has everybody patch home and Owen to against mahomes. Ravens have a better defense Lamar Jackson is having another MVP caliber season so far I have faith in Patrick Mahomes he always gets it done. Let me get in this quickly because it's important history was made yesterday in the browns Washington football game for the first time ever in the NFL women were on both sidelines coaching on the field officiating that included Cleveland Chief of staff. Kelly in Washington Offensive Assistant Intern Jennifer King, and Sarah Thomas on two thousand fifteen became the first full time female official in league history. Is the significance of this Stephen in incredibly important in fact of the matter is I. Think there should be a female head coach, the NBA I'm one of those guys I'm a proponent of that. Females that are absolutely positively brilliant in the world of sports they're knowledgeable and they've gone at the respect of the male athletes that they coach in the system. In any way, I think they deserve a chances especially in the NBA where I see men coaching in the w NBA matter, of fact, I've been on the record I don't think a man should be allowed to coach the wnba until they have a woman in the NBA if you see any profession and it's dominated by only one kind of people be it. Man Men or white people whatever it is it means the job isn't being done well enough because you're excluding an enormous percentage of the potential workforce. In this case, fifty percent of the talent base isn't being used. So the fact that you see this now being integrated in terms of gender is going to mean that better job will be done. It's amazing Stephen a Lakers heat pack your bags which was kidding H-. I'm crying. I install I found on the arrogance curse in whole it's is are just very lifelike. Then what is it ten keep spinning? Scary. Really scary missing out on GEICO's easy to use mobile APP you can manager Vega policy whenever Larry. Looks play with another doll. ooh Can just bury it deep in the ground. gyco wing download the industry-leading GEICO APP today.

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"Hey everybody it's our job. Show here not kelsey charles. Not meg murry. And this is your episode of girls talk and boys for the week. Obviously things in the dfw area have been really scary this week. We hope that all of you are safest can be definitely thinking of you and praying for. Everybody is in look with the week that it was. We talked about on thursday with roy. Having to deal with situations tom rowan. I talked on our episode of riled up and with everything just the way it is. We figured you know what kelsey may take care of. What's important. I do not live in the dfw area. So i'm all right. I was able to get something up for you guys We actually did a livestream on our youtube channel on thursday. If you haven't yet please go and subscribe right. They're talking about carson wentz being traded from the philadelphia eagles to the indianapolis colts the impact. 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That tiger woods wrote and now four years ago. I finished it. great book. A great discussion on tigers ninety seven historic win their gusta national. We got to recommendations. That's right avion. James said i'm reading. Goodbye germ theory and the good book. I love the good book so well-done j davey on and jimbo slice had read intensity by dean koontz It did seem to be a bit intense my next adventure that i'm working on shout out to my friend. James mass. You sent me an instagram message. Wrote this the iceman always comes on tuesday so looking forward to diving in myself. But let's discuss the news of the day carson wentz former philadelphia eagles quarterback is now headed to the mid west carson wentz. Predictably joining the indianapolis colts. This was a move that i think everybody saw coming. And i know you have that friend. You have that person in your life. Who said man. i'm telling you carson wentz to indianapolis. I'm i'm calling yeah. Everybody called this. This was super predictable. Was super obvious. Frank reich the indianapolis colts head coach was the offensive coordinator in philadelphia in two thousand seventeen when carson wentz as every eagles fan has told us would have won. Mvp had not gotten injured. That really was unfortunate for carson. That he did as you well know. The eagles went on to win the super bowl. And i think this is really interesting because you can kind of trace. Even this move today. Back to josh mcdaniels because frank reich got that indianapolis colts head coaching job because it became available after josh mcdaniels left remember. He took that job in early. Two thousand eighteen. He accepted it. He filled out his staff. He took mattie uber flus to be as defensive coordinator for the colts who still doing a fantastic job. One of the best defenses in the nfl. Good thing the cowboys let flus walk and shows rodman ellie over him and chris rashard. That was a great decision. But anyway frank reid got that job because it was open. It was available. It took a very special person to jump into a job where they couldn't fill their entire staff like most. Nfl head coaches frank reich ghost indianapolis. There are a playoff team in two thousand and eighteen. They go to houston win a playoff game. It's super awesome. Have a little bit of struggling going on obviously after andrew. Luck's abrupt retirement in two thousand. And nineteen. Two thousand twenty. I've got philip rivers and their playoff team once again well now they have carson wentz and i think that a lot of people look at this as an insane risk and i think that that is very fair. I think that there are a lot of things to be worried about when it comes to carson wentz which is why the philadelphia eagles moved on. Let's look at the trade details associated with carson wentz trade philadelphia eagles. You will recall five years ago. Traded up to the second overall. Pick so this is a lot of draft capital that has moved through one hand to the other. It was the cleveland browns with it traded with that was actually a very special draft as the los angeles rams in their first year in. La traded up with the tennessee. Titans for the number one overall pick to draft jared. Goff get to that. Trust me but with regards to this particular drafty philadelphia eagles receive in exchange for carson wentz. A two thousand and twenty one. That's now even though it doesn't feel like a third round pick and a conditional two thousand and twenty two second round pick that second round pick and a first round pick if carson wentz playtime is at or above seventy five percents next season the two thousand twenty second round pick again in this situation becomes a i also if carson wentz plays at least seventy percent of plays and indianapolis colts go to the playoffs. I really liked this trade. Honestly for the colts elisha. Boyce's carson is going to accelerate that offensive line. We mentioned it. The colts obviously have one of the best defenses in the nfl they also have perhaps the very best offensive line in the nfl. They have the best guard in the nfl and quinton nelson. No disrespect intended to zack. Martin but a spade is a spade and indianapolis colts offensive. Line is incredible. And so i like this trade for carson wentz in that look i think actually do a podcast on the espn nation. Nfl shows a couple actually throughout the week and on thursday's episode called the look ahead. I said that. I believe the colts were the best destination for any quarterback this offseason just because of the offensive line because of the defense. It's the most ready made. Sort of blueprint no pun intended for success for a would-be quarterback. And i think it also should be said that the colts have a lot of cap space. The colts can go attack and free agency. They can go get an alan robinson they can go. Get kenny golladay. They can go to chris godwin. Whoever that ultimately ends up being the culture go get they can surround carson wentz with talent in a way that the philadelphia eagles never really did. And i think that that speaks to the flaws of the eagles organization during the carson wentz era. Yes they brought back to sean jackson. Yes they had. Alshon jeffery yes. They drafted jordan rager. But those were never really legitimate. Or real sustainable. But hey it's it's just the way the nfl goes sometimes so ultimately. I like this for the calls because the colts were really far back in this year's draft obviously being a playoff team they were out of striking distance for this year's young incumbent rookies. And what's more is the colts roster. I hate the term win now but they are made and builds to have success in the here. And now if i was frank reich. If i was chris ballard. I would not want to start the clock over at the quarterback position because there are guys there are a lot of guys that are available here in the market. that is two thousand and twenty one. The indianapolis colts about the quarterbacks that have played for the colts. I mean there's a lot of former first round picks that have played for the calls really going all the way back to two thousand ten this now last ten eleven years peyton manning obviously there forever andrew luck the number one overall pick and then obviously a bit of a rough spell between andrew lock and philip rivers but a former first round pick himself and now carson wentz. I liked this approach by the indianapolis colts. We know that they are in aggressive team. They traded for deforest buckner last year. And so they go. And get somebody who frank reich believes you can work with. I mean if anybody in the nfl can work with frank reich it is surely excuse me with carson wentz it is surely frank reich and so and i hate to do this. I really do. Because i know we're all here to talk about the dallas cowboys. But i do think that this is a really well. Done an impressive job by howie roseman in philadelphia eagles because it was super obvious that carson wentz wanted to go to indianapolis for all the reasons that we just outlined there was really no leverage working in favor of the eagles and they've got him off their books and unlike the the los angeles rams the philadelphia eagles did not have to give up a first round. Pick which is crazy honestly. I mean i know that the cab hits are that immune like. I'm sorry. I'm flabbergasted by this because carson wentz is captured is larger than jared goff's and jared goff is a better quarterback ben carson wentz and still the rams had to give up a first round pick to sean picks actually involved with the entirety of the trades. And so i think and not only that but the eagles hold a sixth overall. Pick this year and so that was a really enticing option and so i really think. The eagles did a great job. Getting out of the win situation. They will absorb the largest cap hit in nfl history for a player not on their roster and carson wentz but it is what it is and you know. I do think it is wise if you are an nfl team to just accept as i get my charger here from my laptop so we don't get disconnected and have our wonderful conversation fall away. I do think it's wise to accept when something has gone. Not your way into just call it and get out of it without anything kind of lasting and so let's talk about the impact that this has on the dallas cowboys. Let's take a look at the two thousand sixteen. Nfl draft class. As far as quarterbacks are concerned we are of course looking here. At the first eight quarterbacks taken number one overall jared goff the first pick of the los angeles rams in their reboot back out. West is now a member of the detroit lions as we talked about. Matthew stafford headed out to la himself carson. Wentz as of today is now a member of the indianapolis colts the third quarterback taken in that draft. Who was almost a dallas cowboy. Paxton lynch paxton lynch is no longer in the nfl so a bit of a whiff needless to say by the denver broncos the next pick taken fifty one overall quarterbacks here specifically christian hackenberg did not work for the new york jets after that a new member not new member but now a member of the indianapolis colts jacoby percent had an obviously nice run with the new england. Patriots traded over to the colts after angeles abrupt retirement himself. And so that is something that is really interesting now. You have two thousand and sixteen. Draft picks on the indianapolis colts rastrick. The quarterback position moving on jacoby was the ninety first overall. Pick in two thousand sixteen to later. The cleveland browns who trade it out of that second overall pick with the philadelphia eagles were carson wentz ultimately went to cody kessler. That did not work out and with the one hundredth overall pick just before the cowboys could take care more. They ended up taking charles. Tapper the then. Oakland raiders took connor. Cook that's right. If you somehow did not know which. I doubt the dallas cowboys wanted not just paxton lynch but connor cook ahead of dak prescott who they ultimately settled for with the hundred thirty fifth. Pick in the two thousand and sixteen. Nfl draft. I don't think it's difficult for you to look at this list and say wow dak. Prescott is clearly the best player on the board dak. Prescott is clearly the best quarterback to come out of that class. You can make an argument that dak prescott is the most important player to come out of that class. A lot of that is obviously because he plays the quarterback position but nevertheless dak prescott the best quarterback from that group not only is dak prescott the best but as many have pointed out. Dak prescott is now the only only o. l. y. Dak prescott is the only quarterback from the two thousand and sixteen. Nfl draft with his original team. I want to let that sink in. Just let let it marinate for a moment. Let it totally sit in with you. Dak prescott is the only quarterback taken from the two thousand and sixteen. Nfl draft the whole draft. Not the first round not the first hundred pigs. Nothing like that. The whole the only quarterback taken from the draft that is still with his team by the way great photo taken by the incomparable shot cushion. That is a great job putting together. I i love these jerseys for the cowboys especially for dag with pockets. Like a hoodie. Looks super cool. If you're watching on youtube but you should be. But i mean what does this say right like what is what. Does this say to cowboys. Got the best quarterback in the class with one hundred thirty fifth overall. Pick awesome. good job. Maybe you should pay that dude Maybe you should pay that dude and we did a video earlier. This week talking. About how russell. Wilson is theoretically an option for the cowboys and he is and that is technically possible. Right that and it's possible in the world that all things are possible but this is such a simple fix right like if you're the cowboys right now. A whole a whole ever play i saw. They're bringing back. Mario gulf right which whatever switch or whatever nintendo switch. I don't have one of those. But i'm super jealous because i would love to play. Mario golf but jim remember when you played the original super mario games and i'm talking like the two-dimensional ones not when you got advanced on antennas sixty four and you remember when you would like unlock something like unlock a phase or like a world and you would sit there and the screen with like you know just like implode in everything would unlock and suddenly like eighteen different levels. Were available to you that we're not before you conquered whatever the boss or bad guy was the bowser version before that kind of kind of the same situation here for the dallas cowboys. All they have to do is just pay deck and that whole world just kind of unlocks for them. It's really simple. It's not a complicated concept. It's not a hard pill to swallow. It's a super easy thing. I would imagine if i ran an nfl team and had to kind of scratch that is associated with that to pay somebody who makes your team a lot better. I realized in his own amount of money but there should be a lot of lessons. Learned here and some of these lessons should be learned by the cowboys that have to do with the negative side of contracts here. Because you look at it. Let's throw this back up here. Jared goff and carson wentz got their long term contracts from their teams now two years ago in two thousand and nineteen now in that same offseason. The dallas cowboys were first eligible to extend act prescott. The way the rams in eagles were golfing wentz and the cowboys chose to difficult about that right whereas the rams and the eagles were forward thinking and so one take away from this is man. You know what happens when you pay your players too. Early is that maybe. Maybe they're not done developing into the place that they are going to become. Maybe you shouldn't act that quickly. Look at the rams specifically the rams paid todd gurley the moment they could that blew up in their face. The rams played pay jared goff the moment that they could that blew up in their face. Both of them are no longer on their teams. And so i think that that is fair. It's fair to look at the aftermath of the jared goff carson wentz todd gurley and there you can throw a lot of players in there and say that you should not necessarily jump the gun and paid players the moment that you can however however the coin the more important side of that coin is that you have to be really good at evaluating your talent you have to be able to understand where markets are going to be able to project in predict things into the future and if the cowboys had been able to do that they would have gotten both me they would've gotten dak prescott signed before both jared goff and carson wentz and we'll throw russell wilson in that mix. All three of them got deals in the two thousand and hundred offseason before that you're began and all three of them now are market rates. And we've been saying this now for over two years the dallas cowboys with theoretically be happy with. I mean we're talking about guys that were at thirty five million dollars or less per year. That is a value. That right now would look awesome to be associated with dak prescott and that's again that same principle applies in the here and now if dak prescott gets a deal and i'm making this up. That is worth forty million dollars a year or whatever the case may be in two years just like we're seeing right now with regards to two thousand nineteen when two thousand and twenty three comes. I actually by the way. This is a totally separate subject. I think the two thousand and twenty two is difficult to say like it's difficult to pronounce. There's a lot of times they're two thousand and twenty two. It's a lot of. I'm not ready for that. I have a year to get ready. Anyway if the cowboys pay dak prescott around forty million dollars a year in two thousand and twenty three that is going to look like a bargain with regards to the total complete quarterback market the way that russell wilson jared goff in carson wentz's deals all do in the here and now elijah boys has amari and zeke got paid before deck and deserve it. I will say you can. Totally say that amari cooper deserved it. I'm not at all trying to intimate that. Amaya cooper is more important to the success of the dallas cowboys. But i talked about that. Super mario effect right. Like when you beat a boss. Or whatever and then like the schleicher a whole like map unlocks for you. The map that we're on that we're beating. The last boss guy on this map was unlocked by amari cooper and we went like back in the maze or whatever the mario controls back to the beginning of this and we rewound the last boss be was amari cooper coming in and dominating the two thousand and eighteen season and in that moment i know that was a year before he ultimately ended up. Getting paid. amari. Cooper did the unlocking that became. What the dallas cowboys are now. I don't want to be the person that says. Because i don't think this is fair. Oh dak prescott would not be who he is without amari cooper but what amari cooper represented was the embracing of the offensive philosophy to the dallas. Cowboys have now had a lot of that. Is kellen moore to carolina's like Carolina's like when you're halfway through the maze or the map or whatever and you look up the cheats on line to give yourself extra lives or whatever. That's what kelly moore's. But so. I think amari cooper totally deserved to get paid. It's a really hard thing to say. Somebody doesn't deserve to get paid. But as it like this dak prescott should have absolutely gotten paid in. Been a higher priority for the cowboys. Then ezekiel elliott jalen smith in today's nfl. There's no reason for any front office to believe that. Quarterbacks are less valuable or less important to the overall fiscal stability of their team than are running back or an off the ball linebacker. Like ezekiel elliott. Jalen smith and so those were mistakes at the cowboys made and so it's fine. You know they. They have to live with those consequences. But here's the thing. As i regime says the bosses jerry jones who we have to be an it sucks it sucks. It sucks in the sense of team building because we all want to see dak prescott get paid. It sucks that that the cowboys have to again. I want to get paid so it dozen that they have to give him a whole lot of money but it sucks that it could have been done in a much smarter and more efficient way. Ultimately we are concerned with the general cause that is the dallas cowboys. And so that is what it is but as alex mata says pay deck. Man i totally agree with you. Alija by the way says little conspiracy theory here. Some people have floated this out. I think jerry wants his grand central. Arkansas future quarterback am i crazy. I think that would be crazy in a lot of other places. But i think that that's a fair data point right like the timelines of it lineup. That would be nuts. That would be. Wow that would be you know that would be amazing the theater if i'm being honest but i do not want that to happen. No disrespect to jerry. Grants entered anybody but getting back to the point here. This could have been done in a much better way. That could have given the cowboys. More flexibility to sign more free agents to do more trades to execute more things that can make their roster better in an overall perspective by the way on the subject of free agents and trade targets. Those are subjects that we are going to be tackling next week here on our video channel with different things different players. We think it would make sense for the cowboys to go. After players on the final year of their contracts at the moment would be free agents that maybe could be candidates for one year. Also make sure you subscribe right here to the blog. The youtube channel. So you get access to those. When they dropped getting back to the point here the cowboys as much as the situation sucks that there is a answer right like this isn't this isn't like we're sitting here like late at night. Like oh what do we do. We've tried to think about it and there's no way out of this mess. There's a really simple way like it's not even a difficult thing to process. It's not like you know when you are dreading test or something and you study like the active. Actually taking it is difficult now. This is really simple. This is like flicking on a light switch. You just pay deck. It's literally that simple. Just do it and all of these problems go away and the awesome starts to happen. And so yeah. That's a good thing. But something that i think is important to acknowledge in the aftermath of the carson wentz trade. We have all because we're all smart and beautiful people as dallas cowboys fans and his humans of the earth. In general we have all been saying for a long time that dak prescott is better than carson wentz. Dak prescott is better than jared goff. We will pay attention to jared goff much later here but the important thing is there carson wentz during his time with the philadelphia. Eagles lost twice as often as he won. Now you will see here if you are watching us on. Youtube in games of significance was two and four against ac. What does that mean. Well it means that for example in two thousand and sixteen week seventeen the final week of the regular season prescott in carson wentz both started that game for their respective teams however. The dallas cowboys. Good times had already locked up. The number one seed in the nfc only played for a series. Didn't take the game seriously. The eagles ultimately ended up winning. That's a game that technically gets credited to carson wentz as a win and technically gets credited the dak prescott a similar effect happened the following year. When nick foles obviously barely played for the eagles prescott started the cowboys won that game six. Nothing those things. Don't really matter this past season. Obviously carson wentz beat the dallas cowboys in philadelphia on sunday night football. But that was not a dak prescott cowboys group. That was a group led by the new age. Ben the nucci so this is this is important. That carson wentz lost more often than he won against the dow's cops by the way carson wentz's last game in tinto stadium as a starting quarterback of the philadelphia. Eagles was a big time. Beat down in two thousand and nineteen on october twentieth. Good times good times good taps. Now let's talk branly grandly but in a grand sense about the quarterback position because in spite of everything that we've said. I know that you have friends or family members or internet acquaintances or people that you play you know. I don't know fortnight's slipping people. You talked to in the world in some capacity. That are still telling you dax. Just just trade him just do some. Just get rid of that and just drag strapped again in the first round. I watch the college football playoff. Go up to number to get justin fields. Trae lance carson wentz socks. But let's. Let's go the north dakota state route. Just go get a guy. Go draft guy. It's super easy. First round picks boom party championship. No mississippi not so easy. Fantastic tweet here from espn's field. Yates who by the way predicted. The dak prescott will be the starting quarterback for the cowboys. Come week one of the season over at espn field. Had a tweet on thursday. That noted a very important piece of information and with the trade of carson wentz field tweeted at field. Yates on twitter. There will now not be. I want to say that again. They will now not be a single quarterback drafted in the first round from two thousand and nine through two thousand and sixteen. That is still with his original team. Think about this. This is crazy like literally think about this. It is absurd that there is not a single quarterback taken in the first round from two thousand nine through two thousand and sixteen that is still with his original team. How much time does that encompass. You're asking. I know that you can literally see that. It's two thousand or two thousand sixteen. The number one overall pick in the two thousand and nine nfl draft. What's matthew stafford. Who is replacing. Jared goff that was the draft that you will recall. The dallas cowboys didn't have a first round pick and because they had traded for another wide receiver in roy williams so this is a really really really long stretch of time here and the only reason the two thousand and eight is not on. This list is because of matt ryan. I mean this is a gargantuan level of time here where no single quarterback taken in. The first round is still with his team. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that we live in a day and age in the nfl where there's more turnover than ever. And i applaud teams for this. I think it's important to say that teams like the rams teams like the eagles have acknowledged that there are players are not worth it so they don't want to stick it out with them so they don't want to just you know commit because he's their guy. Whatever the case may be it should be said that it is smart. It is visionary even to move on from a quarterback before. His contract is over. If you know he is not the guy and i think a better example of this philosophy living itself out is the rams jared goff. They identified a long time ago that he was really good but he was not what they needed to go to the next level which is why they went and got matthew stafford. I also think that the endpoint point of this tweet is an important data point as well. Two thousand sixteen is the final year on this listing and a lot of that obviously includes because gerry goffin carson wentz where move this offseason but the reason the two thousand and seventeen is not on this list part of has to do with the fact that two thousand seventeen yielded patrick mahomes and he's never going to play for anybody else ever again but that aside and i know that the shawn watson is unhappy with his particular situation in houston. We'll see if mitchell trubisky is playing elsewhere. Come two thousand twenty one. Because i would imagine the chicago bears even though they did not end up with carson wentz going to improve somehow at the quarterback position but getting back to the point. Here i got way too off. Track the reason fundamentally that the two thousand seventeen class of quarterbacks is not on here. Goes back to the finances of all this quarterbacks taken in two thousand seventeen technically speaking here in two thousand and twenty one are still on their rookie contracts because they were first round picks they have fifty options associated with their deals so they're much cheaper than more palatable. They can be handled more financially responsible way. Which is why the bears even though they did not pick mitchell. Trubisky option last year would not be totally stupid if they brought mitchell trubisky back because the finances of it all aren't overwhelming but even if the finances of it all our overwhelming the eagles the rams are showing that it is not impossible. And i think that that's the most important take here. I wanna give a shout out to or does a great job with the athletic and dallas had a tweet. We don't have it up here. But i can read it for you because i know how to read and i'm super smart. Let's get ores tweet over here. One second as i scroll for. I have found the tweet from or moral here. We got on twitter dorm. Oil carson wentz signed an expensive deal. Played like one of the worst quarterbacks in the sport and still got dealt for two day two picks one of which can become a one. I don't care if dak wants to shawn watson contract. It would be absolutely asinine for the cowboys not to sign him now. I know that some of you heard that sentence and said no way. Dacca's not as good as sean. He's not gonna make much. I'm not paying him. He's not as good as to sean. Welcome to the free world. Welcome to market rate. Welcome to a world war game stop. Stock is still high. That's the thing but anyway. This is the world that we live in that. Not only do quarterbacks get paid because their quarterback think about this again or brings up such a great point carson wentz was awful carson was straight up by sudha last year for the philadelphia eagles and he still is unquestionably going to be the starting quarterback for his new team. That was a playoff team last year in the indianapolis colts. That is a lot of privilege associated with being a quarterback. Because that's what the position demands. When you are a quarterback you live a life. that is different than everybody else. And every quarterbacks lives continued to be a little bit more. It's like when they build the recruiting facilities in college football. Well we've got digital nameplates on the lagers. Well we have atari machines in here. We have miss pacman the real. I don't know what it meant with a time machine. I got way too into the knowledge but either way it is a never ending always evolving always growing always getting bigger always getting more unreasonable world quarterbacks living as evidenced by the fact that again carson wentz was literally the worst quarterback among all quarterbacks who started in week one last year. Maybe dwayne haskins was worse. But that's a different thing anyway and he is still. There's no question about it right like there is zero doubt that carson wentz is starting quarterback for the best offensive line in the nfl indianapolis colts one of the best defenses in the nfl in the indianapolis colts because he is a quarterback because the philadelphia eagles gave up to day picks oral points out and they potentially gave up a first round. Pick and i think that even if carson wentz ultimately dallas her first round pick if the criteria for that as well throw that up here by the way if carson wentz's playtime is about seventy five percent next season or if it's above seventy percent and the colts go to the playoffs that second round pick next year becomes a first round pick. That would be totally worth it for the colts. Because you're talking about pick. That's you know maybe mid twenties maybe late twenties if the colts have serious success. And you have a franchise quarterback carson wentz gets to get back to who he really is with frank reich. So the point here the point with or tweet is that say you aren't apprehensive. Say you. I'm talking to you talking to you right now. The one that's apprehensive about giving back prescott contra if you were apprehensive about it look at what the rams did look what the eagles just did. When those deals were signed there were people we were. The people. Golfs sucks went socks. What are you doing giving them. Those deals yeah. It sucks that they gave him those deals and it sucks that they have to handle such big hits here now in two thousand and twenty one because they traded them but guess what they still trade them and they both still got legitimate things out of it. The rams got a legitimate franchise quarterback we think and matthew stafford and the eagles got something legitimate and that they potentially got a first round. Pick if once flourishes more than anything each of these teams was able to shed the thing that they didn't want. There's this misconception out there that like giving dak prescott a big time market rate deal is like a death sentence and it can never be overcome. What are we doing to give prescott one hundred ten million dollars guarantee. It doesn't work out. You're going to move on from him. Two years just like the rams needles have done what their teams and that philosophy is something that the los angeles rams are doing with all sorts of players. The rams are giving out all sorts of big time contract. And i mentioned i killed them for todd. Gurley like ten minutes ago but guess. What the rams were able to move on from todd. Gurley still went to the playoffs and beat the quarterback that we all think is better than dak prescott and russell wilson right. Like the rams identified the key elements and the key crevices of team building and it would be awesome if the dallas cowboys on that pace themselves. It would be awesome if they could go back in time and do that but they can change that in the here. And now i'm not saying the dak prescott signing a long term deal with dallas cowboys automatically makes them super awesome. They're going to win the super bowl. Whatever the case may be however however however however think about the state of the nfc east. I wrote about this on thursday blog on the dot com. Adam schefter tweeted out a few weeks ago that he expects the number of quarterbacks that started a week one of last season to be different in an incredibly different way next season. he believes at least eighteen. Quarterbacks will be different in terms of the guys that started week one for their respective teams. Were already up to four at the very least with the rams the lions the eagles colts. You throw dwayne haskins out there. He was the week when starter for washington that actually beat carson wentz and the eagles. That's five you can go hold number of different places with that but in a year. They're going to be turnover like we have never really seen at the quarterback position right. We are looking. I mentioned that field. Yates article where he predicted. All the starting quarterbacks for the nfc east is coming season. Daniel jones their starting quarterback for the new york giants. Jalen hurts probably going to be starting quarterback for the philadelphia eagles. If i was the eagles there's people are going to mock all the quarterbacks of the eagles with sixth overall pick. If i was the eagles i would ride this thing out. In two thousand and twenty one i would get my first round pick next year when carson wentz obviously asked him for the colts and i would have to first rounders in two thousand and twenty two one of which is going to be my own. Because i'm gonna be really bad. And i'll get my quarterback of the future then the point there being that the eagles were already really bad. And i don't know that this removes them back that much because carson was not necessarily the starter but with a new head coach. I mean all sorts of questions. They are going to be awful and the washington football team. We'll see what they ended up doing quarterback they obviously have a great roster outside of that but the point here is the dallas cowboys play in the worst division in the easier conference in the nfl bringing dak prescott back is almost kind of getting yourself at ten wins without even trying again to go out in the i know dak. Prescott was two and three in his five games that he started whatever the case may be. But you get all this behind you. You get everything. That was the last year with all the situations and protocols associated with the pandemic under control. You get dak prescott back and you are very very very likely to host a playoff game and be in the tournament. Come next january next february. Just do it all right. There's the word of advice cowboys. Paycheck paid act. Pay him now. Pay him tomorrow pm yesterday. The day after that pay deck pay deck hours please. We're all waiting for you to do it. You've been taking way too long. 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Patriots, Drew Brees, Lakers, Carson Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Week 2 Winners & Losers

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

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Patriots, Drew Brees, Lakers, Carson Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Week 2 Winners & Losers

"Ourselves out of here with my man. Immaculate Emmanuel I feel like that. I can yesterday you'll get avocado I don't like that. That is the bar we need to check. With two that's why you're up here. Don't. Lavar. Before you got here, long story here for two our speed up a long story. So let's get started with Cam Newton Tom. Brady, why not who are GonNa talk of the also he's an EPA switching addresses chemists settled in very well New England he has five total trust dowse just a yard away from the Patriots being undefeated this season Brady has been. Like in Tampa so far he's throwing as many interceptors touchdown passes. He was also called by new coach Bruce Arians after only one game. So I hope has cam made the Patriots smart for letting Tom Brady Go Cam Newton made the Patriots Look Albert Einstein. Dying stock the smartest team the smartest decision you could ever make Cam Newton has made the Patriots forget about Tom, Brady you. Laugh, you will about this we're. Patriots buccaneers who has a better receiving core the buccaneers. Buccaneers who has a better tight end core, the buccaneers, patriots, buccaneers who has a better running back through the buccaneers. But Patriots buccaneers who has better offense the Patriots the buccaneers have the better receivers. Tight end, the better running backs and the offensive line. If we're being honest as wash yet, the Patriots have the better offense all because of one man cameron new again, the job of the quarterback has to get the ball into his playmakers hands. But when you are the better and best playmaker, your job is then to keep the ball in your hands. Cam Newton fifteen rush attempts week one. Is a career high for Cam. Newton, Cam Newton fifteen residents in week one. So he's. My job is to run the ball. Okay. I can do that but then to his job was to pass the ball, he only passed the ball for his third highest passing yards and his career long since two thousand eleven rookie season. So what the Patriots they said, Okay Tom Brady, you got to go you go eight and really say Tom Brady said, okay, I got. Cam Newton came in here and not only did he make the Patriots smart he made them look genius and he made them forget about Tom Brady. Being Real, and you bump the stats just look at the eyebrow test the eyesight tests. Marcel Ilkka. Tom Brady wouldn't have had the patriots in that Game Against Game so I lap. He made the Patriots. Stein smart. Oh. My God who has made the Patriots looksmart for. Genius Brady go first of all, you're correct. They let Brady. Go they just didn't fight tooth and nail. For Hinder State. Oh. She break up with me. I find this relationship. You let it go of. So let's just clarify that. Okay. Now I have to answer this, and this is a tough one because I'm going to say they don't look smart in this situation however. I've been at home before and Herman neighbors blasted their music having a party over there and as much as my wife is like once you go say something to turn it down trying to sleep all these kids going to get wake up I'm saying they're like kind of hear that music I mad at them over there if I'm sitting there and nom Tom Brady and I'm looking at the New England situation. I'm not mad at what they're doing, and if I'm New England of course, I'm happy with Cam Newton but please also don't get up here and make people forget about six rings fas- what's the use of winning rings if you forget about them in two weeks that's what I don't understand. That's why I can't go as far as you have gone in terms of what Cam Newton is doing a new. England let's remember you're using Cam Newton Cam Newton a great and him on a curve based on hill. Based on him on New England's Tom Brady success. You know what I'm GonNa get. They no way anybody ever in NFL history is GonNa. Compare to what? Tom Brady did in New England. So great on a curve obviously is GonNa, help him in his assessment but until tally, you can't do this. What New England did is something that a lot of people do they take credit for something else that they really didn't walk themselves into this is an unintended consequence can't look. Can't. A free agent for a hundred and five days y'all waited three muster sign camp. But they find if they did. But is that smart is that genius or you just not as dumb as the other teams then? That's all up says so semantics right here because both situations I think they're in better situations but I have to use auto against Acho since he wants US cam against Kennedy's do Sir I'll show says you want to be Mr Rhetorical when asked all the questions but ask yourself ahead head Coach. Oh. New England who has the better coaching staff according to? These are words, New England. So you WanNa say while CAM is out there ball out of control but he Tom Brady has a better resources around him. You forgot the most important to chess masters to ones that put you in position to succeed. Here's the thing you said I was grading cam against. then. Let's not do that. Let's create cam against Tom Brady. You don't WanNa, do that now that They've got. Nothing. Done for me. It's what have you done for me lately in the NFL and I'm not I'm not comparing Cam Newton against Tom Brady six rings but I won't compare. Against Tom Brady as of late, remember last year. The only one time to the Patriots give up more than thirty five points that was last year against the. Baltimore. Ravens. The Patriots got embarrassed and they got blown out Tom Brady threw the ball forty six times like Cam Newton to forty four times on this past Sunday Tom Brady only had two hundred eighty five passing yards. Cam Newton gave you four hundred Cam Newton also gave two rushing touchdowns. The Patriots got into dowse before last year and Tom Brady. He ran out of bullets Tom Brady didn't have enough. To come to the fight, the last time Tom Brady threw for the same amount of yardage or more than the same amount of yards is a camp. Do for that four hundred, he gave you on Sunday. You gotta go back to two thousand Seventeen Marcellus. You gotta go back to two of two, thousand seventeen in the regular season. That's how far you've got to travel to see Tom Brady for those four hundred dollars. So if you want to compare Tom. Brady to Cam Newton old school Tom Brady I, E old. braiding. Cam Newton. Not Grading economic him on a curve. I'm grading Cam Newton against Tom Brady recent Tom Brady, and it's not even a question like thinking about. Radio allowed to Tom Brady have all these cats and yet is not doing anything with it but can't Newton career high for Juliette career-high hairy receiving yards. He's out there with the same guys that Tom Brady had but he's doing more. It's not even an argument hold on big A. The Not doing much with all that around him did not the right total what what's New England's record twenty fifth offense you just don't like asking twenty twenty workload off. One and one what is Tampa Bay's record? One at one hundred fifty. near-total you set. Dan. What's it right? That's what mathematics, no wins and losses. You think you're ranking Tampa Bay and the number one number three office in scoring yours last year. How far did that? DALLAS, the number one office last year. How did that go? Okay stop that. Go this is what you're doing and you do what about South Sudan will be without standing on a faulty premise because you're measuring old man versus young man imagine the nightmare birth right now we both follow each other on I g you. Oh, my page more I'm on your page I know that facts I check my transactions. I race a young man by the name of ourselves Vernon while the junior. Race in five times I am one in four. Beat this little fire. All right but I am forty five. I have my list of accomplishments of you ever come to my house after the pandemic. I will show you awards. I was a national track champion I actually beat every kid in my age group in the entire country, even international ward. But here's the thing we're. Hey because when you come to my house, you sit there and be like all I know is just so fascinating you because you measure him against me right now I'm an old man, but don't you ever forget Got Hanging up. Her. Who says don't talk to me about the Bron James 'cause he's thirty five was that have to do with anything you play right now as soon as you step on a track yes. A fair race Tom Brady is in the same league that Cam Newton is in. Don't don't sit here and compare Tom Brady's glory. Glory compare the right now to right now because that's what we're playing right now I was comparing about it work when it comes to win a war is for a given amount of time. That's why I go there all the BRA but a body of Work Lebron. I can't when he was nineteen all the way to today. Well, let's bring somebody speaking of being special when they were young red zero plus Fox in fail analyst so. He. Can't make the Patriot looksmart for letting brady go big up. I think he has because I think you always have to ask the question which superstar players with players like Tom Brady like you know like goat's would you rather be a your early? Would you rather be a year? Not. That Cam Newton is going to be able to replicate what Tom Brady did with the Patriots absolutely not. He's not going to give you six rings but I think what? Cam, Newton does give the New England patriots he's giving them something that they have never had before. So now I feel like they have a football team, they can play against the. Baltimore Ravens they can go into Kansas City and control the time of possession and keep Patrick mahomes off of the football field but also at the same time, we're only in week two. Right. So I think everybody has to lower their expectations because everybody is still trying to figure this thing out but I'd say this don't Cam Newton does look very good. I was I was really impressed by the way he played in that game against Seattle look I'm not even going to sit up here do TV I have better notes support Cam Newton in. New England and I do for Tom Brady and Tapa right now. But the problem is is only week to I. Don't know why we're even going this hard on this question. But more importantly if we want to project the road in front of Tampa Bay versus the road in front of New England, I rather be in Tampa Bay sat up here just yesterday talking about Oh new, Orleans look for New Orleans and they would happen we saw when New Orleans did in Las Vegas if you're in the AFC right now be Real Kansas City Baltimore or sitting there saying. Waiting for you and that's New England has to face no matter how well they play if you're an NFC. Scared of Green Bay that was thirteen and three paper champion last year even they look better this year are you scared him? San Francisco they all beat up New Orleans? We saw last night. Tampa Bay gelling together what Tom Brady on the throne you gotTa feel good about your chances on top of Tom Brady. In Week two already stabilize this situation what his best wide receiver and Chris Godwin. So the sky's limit and landscape looks better if you're in the NFC hey, red brick bring my dog reggie back on camera. Hey, rather you know someone losing the argument when they say I even doing this topic. I An. Going to sit here and Argue your point because you know your point is completely ridiculous. I'm just GONNA. Tell you what actually makes sense and what is actually logical here. Cam Newton is leading the Patriots offense to a top offense, a top ten offense in the National Football League they're sitting at number eight right now we're all this all comes down to this. What is Cam Newton doing with the pizzas he had we fed the Patriots probably have a bottom five talent pool when you look at their running backs when you look at their receiving their tight end Marcellus, you probably can't even name the Patriots tight end right now the bucket have three tight ends better than the Patriots site in the buccaneers apple two receivers better than the Patriots receiver the Buccaneers Have Leonard for net as a backup back. Back a week. Well, he's listed on the depth chart of the bat in. While over in New England Cam Newton has the Patriots. Contenders the seahawks are in arguably a top team in the NFC. Patriots went to Seattle and took them down to the wire one yard away from beating arguably the best team today. Think they look like a super bowl contender right now while they're playing You can't sit here and try to even debate this conversation. Yes. because. That's all you can do right now i. Know. Roy. I'm not gonNA, do it to interrupt I'm relaxing laugh and just you know be some background music by you make these bad points now. Here's a funny thing. I'd be Reggie here I. Need to Zip baller. You'd better than both of US combined. Here we go reggie you. Say they got a top eight offense you know what they say. Is the. Top eight and you number one top aide office all over achieving all he's able to extract under tease extracting more from this team. But when it's all said and done, they have the exact same record. Oh but we have a same record as you in a conference that looks on paper easier road to our goals if you look in AFC is a daunting task to even. Think New England is going to continue to over achieve to greater performance than what they had last year, and this is no slight on Cam Newton. This is just to say whatever their door. Right there is nice. It could be special but there are two teams at least that we know that are formidable and we'll be special at the end that have something to say about this. At the end of the day. Awesome. Still got to wait to see because Tampa Bay has a pretty tough schedule as well. They still got to see Atlanta Falcons twice. It's got to see New Orleans you got to see the. Talk. Put Point tonight, can they put up a point? Give them. Up. So. Division Games with someone harvest days that you have to play. Twice. Some. The hardest that you gotta play gives you. Tonight, you gots geog what I will say if you just wait to see because Tampa Bay has to play a number of really good teams they gotta go up against a number of really good quarterbacks like touching mahomes and then last night we saw. Derek Carr beat my New Orleans sites. So Tampa Bay has some good teams. Some good quarterbacks that they gotta play gets. So we're going to be able to measure them. All we gotta do is just wait and see here is the nail in the coffin. Marcellus on the go ahead I, dug your grave and I'm GONNA, go ahead and have to put you in. Brady's commanding fifty million dollars over the next two years. Cam Newton is commanding one fifty s of you went to Columbia, you can do that Matt commanding one million dollars on on a leash for and Tom Brady's commanding fifty million. So do the Patriots looksmart they absolutely love genius because beyond the smart on a football field, they look smart in bank accounts as well. Can I can I say more because I was trying to go to bring. This Show but you. Can't keep saying these things Reggie saying I'm looking right now. Keep talking about the buccaneer schedule. Okay. Tell me if this is daunting to you if your the bucket nears. You gotta play the Broncos have they won any games yet No. Alliance have they wanted to games you know Belkins. To Vikings no no pant. Talking about read, those are winless teams right now on top of the fact that are you really sitting there scared the Chicago bears who haven't lost a game yet but maybe thin role going forward. Ourselves is trying to rise. He's already doing. You gave inch you you. He messed around and took it. Don't worry ready that right hook next coming up. Stop Eagles are winless in people blaming my dog Carson Wentz, we'll tell you his as the starter should be over. But. Coming back to put Marcellus where he will. Talk about his former teammate drew breath then looked like a hall of Famer last night. 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What Goldman Sachs experts and leading thinkers have to say about trends, shaping markets, industries, and the global economy stay informed with the latest insights from Goldman Sachs on the economic and market implications of covid nineteen available on our podcasts at yes. Dot Com Slash Cova nineteen or any of your favorite podcast platforms. Speak for yourself. Then by day less move to drew brees. Up. By the raiders last night. Crazy. Not Lighten up the stats to start the season in summer pointing to the fact that he's forty one years old and has aberdare yards in the first two games his lowest. Bene- Saint but brees said quote I execute the offense adopt not to have the most air yards former saints. Great Reggie, Bush is back with US but Marcellus. Start with you. On that hot seat Hell No. Yeah. On a hot seat. But it's interesting to watch that guy in the middle box the all time. Great Reggie Bush. Now we're. Today I. Wonder Why that is rather. Alleges that is rather peculiar John John Know buttoned-up instead of the cleaners cleaning. Okay, I wanted to America to notice there Reggie when they win in he shows. That's what Reggie to the front runners. You know that that's why pekair left. All right. Here we go. Here's the. Yellow put. On a Hussy a week to future hall of Famer, and what amunition is Air Yard here's Also, nerds you're. Here Yard. Tech Tom, line and searched drew brees air yard. Hail air yards gotta do drew breeze. So let me break down air yards for your four point eight to air yards lowest by any quarterback since two, thousand, nine in Brett Farve. Yuck everyone is saying except in two thousand, nine with Brett. Farr that team went twelve and four, and what's the name of championship game? Based on the recent success or lack there of the saints in the playoffs, maybe that will be a positive air yards right now everyone's saying he's not doing the ball down the field Yuck to drew brees even on the last two years he hasn't been throwing the ball down the field but now everyone wants to say the sky is falling. Let me tell you what brees breezes sandwiched between two guys and A. Few tips of air yards going over ten plus yards Jimmy Garoppolo hurt right now. But hasn't lost a game and Derek Carr who also undefeated. So this this air yard conversation out the door. Let's talk about what's really happening in New Orleans. No Alvin Kamara week one basically based on his production based on his level we to he showed up week one just a couple of touchdowns but not the yards from scrimmage. How about Emmanuel Sanders in week one or week two so far he has not hit the ground running and then we too. We don't even see his best receiver and Michael Thomas and now everyone's going to say it's about drew brees and air yards. It's not about that. It's about continuity you can't just have the same coaching staff if you don't have your personnel out there and they're dependable weekend we that's the only issue in New Orleans Lars. First off I have to tell America about the contradiction did this man is about to speak saying it's only been two weeks. How can he be on the hot seat because we don't talk about Carson Wentz coming up later and you've got to winston a scorching. Fire. Here, or they messed up the line that I had to let. America know. Issue that drew brees actually has isn't that these players are disappearing because they were on a field chimera had seventeen touches week one, he was on a field manual sanders he was on the field the problem at hand wide you in theory is coming up on a hot seat very soon is you got a backup quarterback and tastes. Committed to sixteen million dollars for now I don't know why but Sean Payton earlier on and the said, I think tastes them sees himself as a starting quarterback in this league and we do to. Sean Payton you just said that the man you'll given sixteen million dollars to on this extension. You'll see a quarterback in this league then tell me why Sean Payton he's only been on the field for thirty one snaps through two games. Make that make sense. Any other reason why drew brees his not yet on a hot seat but if we're being honest in two three or four weeks if this play continues, the seat might get a little hotter is because as much as people love to hate Jameis Winston and James. James Woods gave thirty reason why Damon's Gabriel thirty reasons to hate him? He also gave you five thousand passing guards last year only eight other only seven other people in in his history of the NFL done that Damis Winston is the and so in. The midst of drew brees struggles, there are still viable options in New Orleans regardless of how much we want to scoff. At them I don't think drew brees is yet on the hot seat we'll say this type them he'll needs to get some more touches because the job of the quarterback get the ball into the hands of the playmakers. Well, you lost your biggest playmaker Michael, Thomas Tales One of your top three playmakers on offense and he's not even seeing the field right now that's the problem. I agree with you. I think. I don't think. is on the hot seat. I think that's actually kind of crazy to even think that two weeks of playing football and then on top of that, you gotta think about nobody's had a normal off season. So everybody is still trying to learning at this thing is going. Teams are still trying to figure out how to win football games. Teams are still trying to figure out out of Bill Chemistry and at the same time, ju- breeze didn't have Michael Thomas last night. Thank you have his best weapon last night. So of course, this passing numbers are going to go down because when Michael Thomas Donahue. That's thirteen to twenty one points guaranteed and then on the flip side I just gotTa say this about Las Vegas writers they look good they're. Watching him when it was man, he was hitting his receivers in stride and zone it was picking apart right slots and then on top of that his tight end Dan. Waller? Loop. Not. Be Cover. He cannot be covered. He was a problem all last night for the saints. Defense. That's why we lost football he hitting red don't talk to me about a lack of normal all season you got Aaron Rodgers. He got six tugs no picks you got Russell Wilson you got nine tugs one pick you got Patrick mahomes he has five or six dogs and maybe zero or one pick you can't sit here reds you're talking about you can't make excuses you got you got Super Bowl rings on your fingers down ready and you still make it. For. Come on now, you just can't do that now the issues and stay. Tight today. Our we're all on here. All I'm saying he did not have. Michael Thomas last night. You cannot sit here and say is breeze on hot seat because they wanted one come on man you serious. NFC South three times. In a row, the issue isn't being on a hot seat right now I do think right now putting on a hot seat of ludicrous. But here's what I'm reminded of ready two, thousand, fifteen remember when Peyton manning literally limped into the Super Bowl and everybody was wondering is Peyton manning going to hold this broncos roster back I view this as a similar situation, the Saints Defense Legit. I. Liked Cameron Jordan Balcony gene comes into play a great game yesterday but I love him I love the Norris Jenkins Jack. Radha. Love Lattimore that defenses stout the question is is drew brees actually going to be the person that holds this team back and actually while this was rhetorical I really WanNa Answer Reggie so is drew brees going to be a piece that holds this team back. absolut. Absolutely. Not How could you say something like? He's the captain of this ship. He's a leader on a team bay follow his suit, and he's the guy that keeps every. He's the guy that keeps us. Keeps. The glue whatever I say he's a guy that's keeping this thing together Kerry marcellus ready. No, he can't sit and do breezes box this leave and nobody can. Really. Participate. Anyway, all using the red zone package. This year can't use passes Reggie. Well, we respected. Reggie what's he trying to say right there. He's not on hot. Let's be real tit here. On the hot seat this year, he's going to retire go off into the sunset whether they win a championship and now drew brees is GonNa to leave on his terms ten penalties for one hundred, twenty, nine yards last night no one wants to bring that factor up hitting yard. It's how they lost a gain in terms of the lack of discipline whatever that made me, but that's not on drew. BREES and fullness. Let's talk about the fact that drew brees is still top ten in passer rating especially on third down this year. Let's focus in on the money down. You know why? Because they own third they're only you bring it up art show Rogers Newton am homes are better on money situation. So to raise is still going go out there with the life raft and save you to keep. Moving you look at you breezy still not turning the ball over one take away. Once over he just interception you didn't see that. Other. One. Only counts as one candidates three candidates, seven points actually if I'm not mistaken. Came up here yesterday. You told me Russell Wilson yesterday throwing that pigs before they even got out the locker room but I'm GonNa leave that alone and this is another reason why he's not on the hot seat despite them pain what's tobacco making? You said six a million a year. WHO's only thrown fourteen career passes that's one point one, four, million dollars past. You know what that guy is just going to sit comfortably still be who he is going to be a guy that comes in and certain situations and is allowed to astle spice to this offense but he is not the meat and potatoes is still drew brees who is still looking like odor drew brees. Owner drew brees who set nfl records and completion percentage consecutive years. Last two years a career in terms of his passer rating the last two years. So no way at the two games as a future hall of Famer on. It's just so amazing to me you Marcellus in you. Reggie. Bush. Just grant drew brees so many excuses. Ourselves in excuse me well look at him on third down on money downs. The one thing he does well or look at where you could say in Reggie. Nah, you breathe never going to be on a hot seat y'all have to be honest with yourself. He's not on a hoc- right now but y'all not going to sit here and act like. If he continues to lose two teams, he has no business losing to he's not to be on his housing ready Michael Thomas isn't coming back to save the day anytime soon now. So Micheal Thomas being hurt how long does saints make that an excuse they beat the bucks and they lose to undefeated raiders team and you're talking about they shouldn't be to. Dame new information. Comments you look at the week or Read regarding. Now. Let's get to week four because we three that got Green Bay. That could. That's a great test. Next week would have I really WANNA see how they're gonNA play agreement because especially when you got to Las Vegas and you lose a game like that against the raiders, a game that they were probably favorite in the win now you gotta play it. Now you gotta because you don't want to lose two games in a row. Do you right so you don't want to lose two games in a row. Got A great opponent coming up to me. This is a great test. This is GonNa tell me about where this team has mentally even if they do loses football game, it's how you lose. It's how many points you lose by issue get away or was it a Nail biter that's rare. I like that a lot and I'm sure breeze. It's GonNa live comments and make sure your box seats are ready for next. Up Lebron and eighteen. NBA's Beth on our way to the finals, we'll ask Lebron former teammate Tristan Thompson if their title run will be diminished. Speak for yourself to. Call them back to speak for yourself presented by Monday let's move on to the lake. Or two wins away from a trip to the NBA finals. They get there they we have avoided plan for y Leonard's clippers and the back to back champions MVP article who. Would the name? Dog. Magazine put together a rating system. Lebron's trip to the finals and this year has been his easiest row. We're joined now by Lebron former teammate what I've learned that Egypt Shin caught. Fox NBA analyst Tristan Thompson. That's good. Money comfortable at the high count three right there. So interested, you create the Lakers path to the finals, diminish their Taito. No. Come on now you're he got first of all I even know talked about sports except guys were outfits some. This is ridiculous. G. Q. Does these ratings and stuff I don't know what they do. Of course Lebron's fault. He did everything I'll ask them do you. Guess what you put the blazes in front of him. Killing took care on had the rockets to MVP's took care of them. Let's ourselves. We Love Basketball. We want to see the match the clippers and you'll team. They do they do they trick the cheese off all trick the cheese. Chase those bronze fault everybody you put in front of him they had a business listen when we had a lockout season and the Miami, he wanted to twelve lockouts and as I ninety nine, there's no Asterik I've been at center I don't see no ashtrays beside that championship it nicer pretty when you walk in, you sit nicer pretty all five of them I'm down in south beach bottle play the he got this stuff rumbling I, see up there the championship I'll you no asterix. So they know astrakan net. What did you talking about right now? Man It's crazy. Oh, you know what he is talking about right now see choose about cultures about staff now. Little, more off the court and the noise that will come from it more so than the XS and os on the course, you make a tremendous argument tristen if you're just going to focus in on what happens on the court, but let me tell ya if y'all can really pay attention and really listen in the background right now over those sales of the meaning. The clippers barbershop I hear people arguing. An asterisk championship, there's an Astra's for this championship and let's breakdown wilder having that conversation in shows barbershop. Here's the thing when you're the Lakers. Not. Criticisms coming. They're the cowboys of the NBA. In terms of everywhere I go no matter what they do somebody got something to say about it unfair to the Lakers but hey, your greatness speaks volumes and that's why people always want to be hypercritical. So what would they say about this year man ain't even play all the regular season games did they went into a bubble at the the Pharma break and we saw teams that weren't even that good look amazing Phoenix Suns. Didn't lose a damn game in a bubble we saw team that shouldn't even been in the playoffs and the Lakers got a chance to play. The Portland Trailblazers in any other year in NBA. NBA. History would've not been allowed to play in the playoffs except this year and then everyone would say, but they had to go through the clip debit. They didn't even have to go through the team that was built to stop them. They had to go against the Denver Nuggets, and they passed the Denver Nuggets and get to the finals. Then people going look over there in Eastern Conference the Water Down Eastern Conference according to Acho to Weaker Eastern Conference according to Otto when he wants to minimize Janas does in Eastern Conference. All they said they're going to have to play the remains in the ashes of whatever comes out of the Celtics heat series because it's going to be a war of attrition people are going to talk, and if you go into the barber shops were G. Q. is getting this Information Kunming, wink overdose clippers you hearing a lot of talk and conversation about Astra can't stand when people do this Marcellus. Why do people like you go to look for reasons? Why do people like you? To undermine Ammann's success like let me accurately define and redefine for you and all the and all those others exactly what the Brandi okay. What past the hottest team remaining in the bubble, the hottest team, what the hottest player, the Butler Damian Lillard that was the first round. Okay. What happened in the second round? They pass the team in the Houston Rockets that had two of the last four NBA and b. p.'s both valuable players. But beyond that, if you're like, oh, it was so easy for the Lakers. Then why did the Lakers have to literally alter their starting lineup to adjust to the? Rockets. If it was easy, you can just rolled out there and your sleeping, beat a team but the Lakers have to bench do get started ninety five percent of the Games started due to Markeith Morris who started one game all season although he only played fourteen prior to that point, start him just a match up with the rockets that's not easy. That's having to adjust the Lakers just make the difficult book easy while the clippers on the other Hindu shade the easy look difficult. But then let's talk about these Denver Nuggets the Lakers are having to go through right now over the last two seasons. The third best record in the entire NBA, not the Western Conference, the whole MBA also this season had the third best record and the Western Conference. So let's not make things seem like the Lakers are doing it easy. The Lakers just make it look easy but also we don't even have to go back to the lockout seasons in the shortened seasons of ninety nine and two thousand twelve. Let's talk about seventeen when the warriors won the chip nobody talks about. How easy the warriors had it but in all honesty warriors, first round they play play rebuilding spurs team without Tim Duncan, as far as we're trying to find their way, they got lamarcus Aldridge are one then you play the Pelicans but the Pelicans don't have boogie cousins that's in the semi. Then in the in the conference finals, you Plato Rockets, the same rockets team that they dismantled for this new age rockets team that. Lebron. James Bill and Leslie Marcel is. The worst Lebron Dave team no Shay Trista, the worst Lebron James Dean since twenty ten then isn't easy path. We don't talk about easy past when it's other players went to Lebron people like Marcellus just God. Nitpick you just got to nitpick sad. Got To nitpick nitpick and it's Marshall. Is You the Clippers guy? Melika? Food. I got rid of them custom responsibility. Food. Food aid it would you want to do about that? PUTS, his face he he. Hungry. Then you can't blame for that. No, we're not say first of all I only salon only salons only in salons they say Asterix Barbara. Today no, we're not spend a barbershop listening, keep a book. Hey, y'all look in Buffalo I used to have a Lotta teammates they hunted like really hunted like showed up to practice with deer on their cars. GOPHERS. Now. Good and what I learned is it was the sport of hunting that they loved the most they didn't want the deer to just run up to the gun and just fall down they wanted to say, Oh, this is so easy. They actually like the activity in the sport whatever the competition of that is whatever traps you have to set how the level of difficulty matter in terms of how they felt about their game nestle I want to say about this situation, it seems like Lebron is going to get criticized not necessarily about me. I'm just a storyteller I'm telling you the story. A better here. Here's the thing. To wants to go there talking about all the different nuggets at the best records the last two years number three, you know the Milwaukee Bucks had a better record in the last two years. How how did that get them? The point is records don't matter in terms of trying to say how difficult team is we seem walking. We won't see Milwaukee this year. Here's the thing about the Denver Nuggets you better respect. We don't even know if this series is over the. Last two years. The Denver Nuggets have been four playoff series and come from behind to either win or at least take the league in those same series including two this year where they were down three one, we know the Lakers favorites but be real. This would be wondering. If at Davis to save the day in the Plus Three. Point. But the point of this is also. Hey, they don't play with their food if the different in day out there playing a different nuggets, differ nuggets on it activate in moments like this when their backs against the wall. So I don't even know if this is going to be a conversation, we need to have because who knows the difference may pop up and have something to say about these Lakers. Marcellus did you just give me a last four year stat? Let me give you a last seven last four playoff series. For the last year and this year seventeen your Stat Lebron James was twenty two when when he's up to his series, the series is done finito finished as over. Sir. But that's for another block. The block right now is simply this Marcellus. If you are storyteller, please tell better stories. Here we go. Here we go. Here's a story about Lebron James when he went back to Cleveland to play with he looked at Andrew. Wiggins. Don't want him Kevin love stay. You know why he did that he was trying to beat the San Antonio Spurs in his mind construct, the game plan and a roster to beat them and what came out of nowhere with some fixed ankles steph curry and the Golden State Warriors. There is a situation right here at play Lebron James is looking at his. Forecast as like Oh we got this we are built to do something and we're going to do a special as someone comes in upsets whatever that forecast looks like it could come out the east but hey, don't be surprised if the Denver Nuggets don't pop up like they had the last four playoff series as say, surprise nobody watches the Brady Bunch of barbershops. Good. Times Martin okay. So let me singing songs nobody be Anna Jeffries Stopping Asterix Brady theme saw see you WanNa first choice haircutters. That's what the ball. Barber, shop does your the cabinet is good. More I'll give you A. Man covered up. For. Good. Russell Wilson Aaron Rodgers have both been playing NBP's, but we'll tell you which one has been more impressive so far that's next fifty itself presented by Hyundai. Back to speak for yourself presented by day, let's talk about the top quarterbacks in the game. Best Russell, Wilson and Aaron Rodgers Luke. Wilson has been cooking life crazy for the seahawks. He's only the second quarterback ever with nine. And an eighty plus compete completion percentage. Fans while Rogers also off to a fast start in Green Bay with sixteen passengers zone and. Interceptions the Var to have you with us my friend but Marcellus. Up I had a more impressive start this season Russell Wilson's bad man era. Just kept me up all night. Yeah. Because I needed to say something good about Russell Wilson because I'm starting to realize that I can't go to the Pacific northwest. Seattle because they think I hate Russell Wilson I love Russell Wilson Y'all just give me impossible questions and another one like this one where I kept pick Russell Wilson I had with Azaria Rogers. Let's break this one down why will Aaron Rodgers be the MVP this year because of his impressive start that's where I'm going I'm taking it all to wake. One when Aaron Rodgers has a perfect game, it doesn't end in a goal line stand in the one yard almost defeat against the Patriots. ooh. When air arrives goes out there and plays well, you know what happens back to back games for forty plus points that's what's happened this year with Aaron Rodgers and the last two times we've seen Rogers in that situation. Wow, let's go. Back to two thousand, eight, two, thousand, eleven two, thousand, fourteen Aaron Rodgers back to back forty plus games. What did he win the nose ears and the Thi? This is a story that is going to be told because of air rogers overcoming manipulation internal nip relation everyone's talking about let Russ Cook. Let Russ Cook that sounds good but that's that's Disney story we in the real housewives. Friction and chaos and overcoming adversity and odds, and now is seeing Aaron Rodgers wear headphones in space this entire season talking about yeah. We were one game away from winning sue again the Super Bowl and they go out there and draft what I needed yet still on coming out. Bitch Aaron, rodgers overcoming all US including friendly fire from my own organization coaches theft. So if there's a tie because Russell Wilson is going to ball, seattle and Aaron Rodgers is going to ball this year when there's a tie, we know de Drama wins when it comes to story air rogers is having a more impressive start and will win the MVP this year. I'm so perplexed because Lavar here I was thinking this was a sports show. Marcellus was coming up here to tell stories around a campfire in my. Sports. Story done why is that was I? Only. Dream me no more stories. Bringing up their. Dad Let me give you. Man Information this is a very tough question Russell Wilson like Aaron Rodgers they pope pinball an Air Roger Sixteen ds no picks Oh my. How can you be better? By Being Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is not live being. Some. Better he's doing it against better competition air rogers. They're using the people that he is playing. You can't playing but the fact of the matter is, who is he playing? He played the Detroit lions that's a coach this this seats, not even hot coach already fire. They haven't told the world. Did I know the world will find out eventually? Beating, the Lions team that just they're not very good. But also, what are who are you doing it with and how is it being done? What I mean by that is not just winning but who you winning with keeping my Marcellus Aaron, Rodgers has the NFL's leading rusher right now and buy alongside. A Aaron Jones, that's two hundred, thirty, four yards on the ground. There was only one more player with over two hundred yards on the ground thirty two games. So when you playing against the packers, you don't know how they don't kill you they can kill. You with the past when you planning against the Seahawks, you hawks are GonNa Cook. But you still can't stop the mid meal. That is why right now it's unequivocally Russell Wilson Aaron Rodgers. Playing Great Aaron Rodgers playing lights out six touchdowns. No picks again you really can't say on that. That's not what I'm here to. But what I am here to shine a light on a person who was playing better Russell Wilson had nearly as many touchdowns. Two one game is an rogers had to two games. So let's just keep it one hundred. It's really not even a competition right now and that's how Great Russell Wilson's plan. Yeah I'll piggyback off of that show. I hate to do that ourselves, but it is the level competition as to why would save more aggressive right now as they move towards the latter part of the season that may change but looking at. Who's more impressive right now, that game on the national platform and everybody's watching and it was the deal between two. quarterbacks and Russell Wilson and Cam Newton and Russell. Wilson came out on top. Those are two super bowl contending teams. Those are the only opponents that have super bowl potential, which is you know the Patriots because if you look at the Vikings at the Vikings, we're GONNA come out and be a good team defensively and that with Terry that we both obviously, they're not as good defensively as we thought they were going to be or at least I thought they were GonNa be an that has shown in the game. So for me I'm looking at Russ. And I'm saying it's because of the level of competition to day that Russell Wilson is edging air rodgers out Aaron. Rodgers has beat the people that are in front of him. So I don't have a problem with the way. Aaron Rodgers. Plan I think. This will be a great great quarterback race between the two of them and the other two guys that we're not talking about in this segment. But right now you gotta give the competition edge to rust difficulty and say that his play is the reason why they won that game against the Patriots. But the interesting thing is by hang your hat on level of difficulty that will change. That is the fluid conversation as the year goes by you can look up and some of these teams go south and then all of a sudden you're sitting wingless struggles and. Level of difficulty. So I don't like to hang my hat on that because it's not a constant when I like to hang my head on is when I see someone having a insane year and I've seen it before how did that work out for that player I told you guys yesterday there Russell Wilson is getting caught up in the wash that drew brees got caught up in the same thing drew brees was drafted in era of Tom Brady versus Peyton Manning, and when that's the rivalry. US sitting near closely on the outside, but on the outside and then now Russell Wilson has to already Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady kind of robbery, and now it just leaped over again. It's Patrick Mahomes, Lamar. Jackson. A Russell. Wilson. Now look at my numbers and I'm like, yeah, look at the numbers there droop raise two point. Oh, I saw numerous articles saying that today when I said that yesterday to this tone two, thousand, nine drew brees. In his knife season same Russell Wilson. This year interesting led the league in passing touchdowns, passer rating and completion percentage even won a super bowl but did not win the MVP. WE'RE HAVING TO MVP type conversation right now because we're talking about those two guys head-to-head who's playing better as you said, we're talking last week watching this game prime time only game on Lavar. The first time we saw Russell Wilson go out there. What do you do? Throw a pick up takes now I hate to do this and really get into the minutia like this and start splitting hairs. But that's what's going to happen Russell Wilson in all his greatness in his first eight years has never even received the MVP boat. I'm just trying to tell you how this is going to go if air. Anywhere, in the world of Russell Wilson by the stats by the story, he's going to win the MVP let are combined Telemacho. What are the combined wins of the two teams that Aaron Rodgers beasted found? Big. A BIG GHOST One thing Marcellus going to look at the numbers. Let's look at them adequately, and let's look at them appropriately only four times in NFL history of quarterbacks thrown nine passing touchdowns or more to start the season. You had Patrick Mahomes, two, thousand, eighteen he won the MVP you did that Peyton manning two, thousand, thirteen he won the MVP and like you said, drew brees two, thousand nine he won the Super Bowl. Now if we are going to split hairs which I will have a better, is it doing because I actually have here we are going to split hairs up here on the set Marcellus. Then you out to say either way used to win for US think about it. I mean if wrestling's the super bowl, he would have won the super bowl by putting the team on his back. That's a win. If Ross one is an NFL MVP and doesn't win the Super Bowl that is a win. If we are talking about the minute show was level we have to play in right now to to to these two games it's still going to be Russell Wilson as a favorite right now because of what he is doing with this team and the quality of opponents, he's doing it again, and while the NFL isn't college style points do matter when you're winning BP's you saw that with Lamar Jackson last year style points matter Russell Wilson's doing it in style. You know what makes a really cool conversation is that both of these guys have their own unique chips on their shoulders, right? Like boulder sized. Yeah. I don't really know about breastfeeding. So slight maybe it's because of the MVP deal the conversation of him, not getting boats and not being an MVP at at this point in his career. But what are you a hundred percent know why Aaron Rodgers is upset because they brought his heir apparent ended thought that maybe this was the end we were going to allow the world to see it play out. In that fashion. So it's a cool conversation because both of them are playing with a whole bunch of attitude they moving around we watch the highlights as we've talked on the segment they are both playing with so much poise and so much excitement is great for the game. For football because you're seeing two guys compete as such a high level I just would like to see Aaron Rodgers do it against a better team before I can say, okay those lack of weapons that you didn't go out and give me in the in the draft after we had. A One, game super bowl I'd like to see him do it against some better talent before I'm GonNa say that these guys can actually cherry the low with Aaron Rodgers as the season progresses. So you want to see it done against better talent better. Be careful what you ask for you just might get it remember last year. Russell Wilson. Started off hot. You're talking about using the numbers twenty two styles only one interception at the nine games VP FRONT RUNNER Nine touchdowns four in his last four, hundred substances. Last seven games including while we played a game stayahead match up against Lamar Jackson, we know the Ravens won that one. No head. I can only look at right now Marcellus. Okay. I can only look at right now I give you that if you come over to my career trust me, we look into the future, but we don't invite me I never bite me covered. Brotherly love, for Carson, Winston Philly will tell you if it's time for the eagles to bit went next big for yourself Zindabad about this. Do over on the twenty twenty season. The Eagles are to for the first time since two fifteen and fingers are pointing wins who leads the League with five giveaways. Eagle Brian Westbrook beast said the eagles will have a chance to turn things around if Wentz can quote be Patrick Mahomes like the Peterson was asked about his quarterback struggles listening to this. In Carson's fifth year in the League and working with you why are you seeing his production and his performance regrets? Progress. REGRESS regress. I'm sorry it cut out there saying You know it's a good question you know for us it's a matter of continuing to work continuing. You know I think I think as coaches and players we continue to strive to get better every single day you know I just don't want Carson to feel like he has to make all the plays every single time. I can't take a pause that long live TV but to the top of eagles to Ben. Carson. Wentz, not a dome and that would be absolutely ludicrous Marcellus. Carson Wentz deserves more of a benefit of the doubt as what it comes down to early you were in a relationship which the eagles are with Carson. Wentz, if you're in a relationship and someone is consistently late to your dinner dates consistently standing you up and you say, you know what? If you're late again, if you stay up again, it's time for us to break up. Okay. Well, then the next time they show up later the next time you get that call hey, I'm not gonNa make it and things not the fact of the matter is Carson Wentz has never stood the eagles up. Speaking he hasn't. We're here. Here's what people like you like to do. Marcellus me like me you should know this better than I because again, you're married man if we're arguing about A. Please don't bring a be. Arguing about. Dishes Lizzo bring up what I wore last night to our friends engagement with the. Problem is Marcella people right now are arguing about the interceptions, but then they want to bring up but he's also hurt Oh, but he's also the no. Let's focus on the task at hand if Ludicrous Bench Carson Wentz because the other thing is what got a bench Carson Wentz four jalen hurts jalen hurts was phenomenal college quarterback. Let me give you empirical data as opposed to my feelings of the posted by emotions as opposed to my is over the last. Two decades. Let's talk about second round picks only five have made significant contributions five and twenty years and res. Andy don't Derek Carr who was about to benchmark and Mary auto is trending yesterday before Derek Carr came back Jimmy G. who didn't balls at his own organization and don't who's the backup right now those are the five quarterbacks in twenty years that have made an impact. So you want to bench Agai in Carson Wentz who should have war history and of. More than this and you want to bench him for Jalen hurts enigma that to me makes no sense that was the most defensive take. You've ever give it because you just think know going. You you gotTA Business Dude. Yes you're right there but I didn't say cut him I. Said Bench him actually looking now for him I told you before I've been in a position where I was at the top of the hill and started to go down I. Wish I had a mentor redshirt even just a physical time out just take me away from the game. How many times have you said on the sidelines mini sitting on sidelines is sitting there watching the game don't you have a different perspective of the Game Hey how about when you're injured and you have to go up to the booth with the coaches? And watch it from their perspective, whatever it may mean to stop the bleeding because. So to my best friend, Jabbari always talks about is trying to get into your zone. We always say try harder try harder how about try easy when you're injured zone right now he's trying too hard to do so much do too much and it's not working Acho. This is a guy that you can't get rid of for the next two years because of his day cap number seventy, seven million right now but we have to use the numbers against him and why you need to give him a pause. Right, now, he is the third highest in cash earnings over thirty nine million this year. That's a high number four highest guaranteed contract NFL history. But we're seeing diminishing returns. We're seeing a real regression we're seeing guy says twenty eighteen who was under five hundred as a starter Carson Wentz. and You keep saying we're talking about the interceptions only know seventeen touchdowns, sixteen giveaways and under five hundred. I need for Carson Wentz to understand as a parent. You said, I'm a married man, but I'm also a father there needs to be a nuanced discussion about how to go from one place to the other too many times. We already think that you're ready made Carson Wentz as the second pick of RAW. Hey, got paid. Hey with the super bowl but he was having an NFL MVP season before injury. Let him go and leave them out there instead of saying come here like I do my kids sometimes. You need to stop pause, get yourself together Gasser yourself and then go back out there, and this is the best guy to have in that situation as a backup in Jalen hurts who's been through that same kind of care sale at the quarterback position and won't be defeated if he has to only play a couple of games but. Ultimately, universe time out for Carson Wentz, the boys struggle here's my issue Marcellus people like what we're seeing Carson Wentz? We haven't seen from other great quarterbacks. Oh okay. Hi Brady in his tenth season in the NFL he had four picks over two games brazenness thirteenth season in the NFL twenty thirteen he did the same thing Peyton manning threw eight interceptions, two games in his thirteenth season. These quarterbacks have earned some cachet. Carson. Wentz has earned the same type of cash. But Carson Wentz has also earned cash. There's a reason Marcellus the eagles were at another game at the end of the season not watching another playoff game they were actually there they hosted it all because of course in went there's a reason the eagles won a super bowl. Now Nick foles random through the play offs the reason the Eagles had that by was because of Carson Wentz Carson Wentz has earned more of a right but I'll say it like this I'll put this football terms hopefully, I don't lose viewer and football. QUARTERBACK's throw a quick drug quicksand can do what you call a cut block. Get the defensive line hands down got don't want Marcellus to pick the ball as soon as I snapped the ball I'm trying to. Cut Them. Well, on special teams who do the same thing I knew that because at least if I was going to play was on special teams. Coach will say, Hey, I'm putting on show if we're going to cut him, cut him. What's that mean? If you cut them you better get him down. If the Eagles are GonNa Bench, Carson Wentz, they better commit to benching him. This isn't one of those a let me benching quarterback. Let me get your mind. Right. You have to admit to making that decision and that to me is a ludicrous decision I don't agree with you one. Let me give my star hundred, million dollar quarterback a quick game or two off that doesn't make any sense with that starts as controversy because what happened Jalen hurts balls. Go. Bring Jalen hurts packing. What happens if Jalen hurt struggles then why did you Ben? Carson Wentz in the first place remember what happened Marcellus two thousand sixteen with your favorite player Dak Prescott. Tony Romo could've come back in. He was healthy in the middle of the season I was covering the cowboys. Didn't because what was the point? If Tony comes back in balls now you gotTa Bench deck or now you have an unnecessary quarterback controversy. It's the exact same thing if in football if you're GONNA cut him, you better cut him eagles. If you'RE GONNA bench, him, you better bench him but makes no sense at this junction and I love those arguments can't argue with them. However, the flip to it and all those situations where's the equity imbalance compared to this situation? Carson. Wentz has not, earned cash. Earned cash I'd be real not cast. Hey. Good. Like incentives shape behaviour. So you're right they're trapped with him. Trust me if they weren't trapped he out because of the regression but says, he is in this situation, you can't sacrifice fifty two other guys for one. So what do we do? We have to figure out a way to have a stopgap. We have to figure out a way to just hey, time out and then come back refresh and reset, and that's what it is because you know the game of football we all big we all fast we're all strong, but it's mind. Over matter if you can't figure this out if you're processor is clogged for whatever reason a, you are not out there discerning the proper information to make the right place. You know what happens things like this we give you a ton of money. You start to fall off the cliff I did myself and all of the sudden we don't know where to go. Are you really going to call two games regression that I think is I wanted you says, twenty, eight, thousand, five, hundred, eighty, two, games brother twenty, seventeen, he was nine, the seventy. Who Know they even worse he ended the season. and. That's a great thing. But guess what when we pay you this amount of money I've been highest paid on a franchise and a slight decrease is exaggerated because we like Yo you getting money so that you can cure all ills not be the greatest ill that we're dealing with Komo. CARSO WHIZ Lavar back with us right now. Lavar Komo News. Right now is it time? Bits, Carson wins. All Right? No, it's not time to bench. Carson Wentz. But this is an indictment on Carson Wentz his future the handwriting is, let me show you. Let me show you and let me illustrate the thought of blue swell. Well, Paul's I was calling the right place. Carson was not throwing the ball where we told him. You know what we weren't Jalen hurts into the game, but Jalen isn't ready to start yet. You. Know. Carson. Doesn't run. He's not mogul just sitting there thinking to myself Monday link will run the ball and he can get away from presser and well, you know what this makes me think about this time you know they did this in Pittsburgh with Cordell store they called sluggy floppy brister like I mean bubby Brister I'm sorry I'm GonNa Pittsburgh steelers back I'm still upset that they lost the Dallas in. Super Bowl that year. Sorry bubby respect you but here's the thing. Well, it was donald as a matter. Until. They were. Here's the thing right They worked slash and to get him reps why? Because they knew he was going to be the eventual guy to take over that starting job as starting quarterback and I, think that's what we saw a touch. On Sunday and not really over this game and I looked at it and I studied. What the Eagles were doing. Now, let me tell you something. The running attack was there with a booby back in the lineup. Mao Sanders running the ball. But what you have not seen the eagles able to overcome. Is the past coverage to break the passing coverage ratio by MR, wench running the ball. Okay. So what's happening is they're sitting back in their. Zones their their combo covering their man covering, and they're confusing carson. Wentz, because they are saying, beat us with your arm beat us went your arm and Carson Wentz is not doing anything to bring those. Up Closer to the ball, he's not taking a chance by running. He's he's trying to force the ball down the field and it's not going to work. So the book on Carson is. So, if it's going to stay in and right this ship, he doesn't have to necessarily be Patrick Mahomes but he has to understand when defenses are five to ten fifteen yards off the ball on you. You gotTa take what they give you, Bro. Yards, and slide don't be afraid. It's the pros they pagey your money it's your yard. It's slide out of bounds but as of right now, you don't bench because of this and this reason only because Jalen isn't ready yet don't ruin jalen trying to salvage the season when Carson Wentz is your money man and your franchise guy. Now let him earn his money and see how. That turns out Sorry. Yana must disagree with you guys and I'm GonNa go to my favorite quarterback ever in Peyton manning who has equity who had equity and the two thousand and fifteen realized that he also had a guy on the roster that they were looking at as well in the name of Brock osweiler y'all remember that year two, thousand, fifteen, they would have been. peyton manning was. Okay. Here's you go. What happened nine year? What happened to that team because he was and he people? Know about this and they ended up winning the super bowl by going back and forth in that situation I don't know what's going to happen in the NFC least as calls, but you can't. Nothing ingles and let a prime opportunity like this right. Now in a division, all you have to do is win it. You're in the playoffs get hop or two or three games and who knows what happens. I got said bench him don't cut them and probably put them back to three days but the universe is saying is screaming and yelling, get his brother time out coming up the Texas gave the shots in the whole of money doesn't have the winds to show for it. We'll tell you if Houston overpay for their star quarterback. Big For yourself out the jealous you stuff. Let's move on to Houston. Texas are off to an OEM to star Shawn Watson said this off season he wanted to be. Legendary. But his first two games have been the opposite Houston isn't getting a lot of bang for their buck after Washington the A. Massive four, year one, hundred, and fifty, six, million dollars. This off season. Lavar is back with us but. We don't start with me should the Texas is concerned. Is going to take it Let me take. I gotta get it out in front relates purse. All right. Here we go. All suburbs. Should they be I'm say, no, you shouldn't be concerned about the shower Watson in this situation, but earn a bunch of qualifiers that are attached to my know. The first thing is I'm glad that the sean got his dough and he won't go down with the ship, which is the Houston Texas because in NFL in all sports. They basically goes that way they try to assess your individual value based on the collective value, and that's unfair to Deshaun Watson because he sticks out like a sore thumb in turns of his greatness in comparison to what he sees on this team. However, he's he is the best house in the neighborhood. Let's just be real about it. Nelson that neighborhood on this team. Is having the same value as him. But the Shawn Watson also reminds me of the Kobe contract. Everyone talks about in the latter years of Kobe, rest in peace. But this is a young Kobe contract where it's a little more of entertainment value a little more of a draw when they made this deal a little more of, hey, we got something to build around. Something as a centerpiece to our universe when we talk about this our watson but how dare anyone tried assess his value based on what they are seeing on this roster? That's all on Bill O'Brien right there. That is also owned the bad luck of the draw to have to play the Kansas City chiefs in Baltimore Ravens in week one and we to do so. I'm glad you got your door and you stay protected and your bubble were surrounding. You is not the prettiest sites the Texans Marcellus I think they absolutely should be concerned that they overpaid for Shawn Watson. Doesn't have much to do with the Shawn Watson. Let me get to this point I didn't make the money that these two cohorts I'm ceiling dealing with under that made Marcella Lavar. I stumbled into a little bit of money one time and I bought myself a Bentley and about myself for Bentley what People Bentley owners that told me, they said his thing always said buying the bentleys easy part. Up By, the site is the hard part of. Bentley valeted of Bentley when you've got a belly you gotta by the Supreme Gaz when you gotTa Bentley you better have your assurance when you gotTa Bentley every time you're taking. Issue for four, which one did you do that with? The issue at hand is the Texans got the badly they got the Shawn Watson, the problem is the upkeep. The Bentley into Shawn Watson but your offensive line still poorest you got the Bentley into Shawn Watson, but you don't have the receivers still in this you know the problem was that the Texans they shouldn't have got the Bentley if they couldn't maintain the upkeep because the same thing that will happen to the car, it will happen to the Shawn Watson, it will be run into the ground and so the Texans need to be very cognizant of the fact of okay. Congratulations we got to sign. But now what are you GonNa do with it? Problem. That's out. In prabhjot luck onto pry. Is Fine. There's certainly no concerns about saw Watson when you watch the Games and you break down the film on this Texans team. It's bad decision making on play calls. It's bad decision making on personnel. You now realize why De'andre Hopkins is so revered and respected look at what he's doing in Arizona people. Magin. Coach thinking. So highly of himself and San, Francisco that he would get rid of one jerry rice going into his eight year. Montana's. You Doing, what are you doing you leaving me with this? The throw the ball with a big contract. So what you're basically saying to me. Don't have targets, but you gave me this big contract. So if I don't get the ball to these guys, we don't win games then as a loan me because my big contract, you know, let's go back to that Bentley reference. There's the everyday Bentley and then there's The Sunday bit. You're talking about the Sunday Bentley auto because you only have one bit writing, but some of US had to every day been. And I said some head. I got a whole bunch of kids. Drove every day and let me tell you something about the mentality of Bentley. That's drive every day I one you drive on Sunday. That's the ballet one. That's the one twenty, five that they made nobody else get that new one on every day. It's a convertible with looks nice. This that moves well well. So I was sitting there thinking to myself. Okay Bill. O'Brien is that day Bentley. It's nice. It has looked good. It s perform well as giving you what you want it, but it ain't quite that Sunday? Bentley like the Psalm Watson he has the value what Shawn Watson can represent career and that's The concern that you have to have is he's made some poor decisions personnel. Wise. That is impacting the season so far known only for Watson, for that team here's the other thing. Remember the block we just talked about in Carson. Wentz got a big payday has a losing record everything statistically makes you question should went ever been paid is once actually that good and sure in parts because of wins but it's also because the schematics if you watch the game last week about how the rams made goth look really good and before the rams had a coach to make golf look really good off looked really bad. Shawn Watson is not careful with these Texans. He will start to look at the game of football regardless of what we think you need your dogs to ride which you just like Patrick Mahomes has hit. Aaron Rodgers. Now, at least has devante atoms. One of the best you gotTa have your dogs which you regardless of how good you are. If you don't have your Robbins if you don't have the rest of that team around you here, just not going to be that. Good John. Watson, we already know he's extremely an uber talented. We saw it in college. We saw his rookie year before he tore his ACL. But now you're going to Shawn Watson you're like y'all their own to you haven't put up any good offensive performances. You only have two touchdowns to two interceptions on the season completion percentage ain't all that you're not averaging over three hundred yards a game to sign. Are you actually that good people are going to start questioning Tucson Watson when in fact, they should be questioning everyone around him head coach most importantly so This is not going to be immune to criticism although he shouldn't be getting the criticism but now the Texans are going to put put themselves in a bind. But more importantly, they're putting Shawn Watson in a bind as well. Man Breaking this data the layer I love right here because is not an indictment on who he is. It's an indictment on where he is in terms of what some rounding him and this this is a life lesson but also. It always comes true in the microcosm of football He's becoming a product of environment as people always want to say I used to push back on and I still do. But I'm just I put them say look I produced for Marvin no matter what the circumstances are but the reality is just like as players most of us are no greater into systems we're in this weird how many players the you know are greater than a sum of his parts. Very I mean you probably count them on three, four, five, ten, you go into the dozens in terms of active players right now no matter where you put him, they go get their number. So when you get into this situation, you're playing quarterback where you need the resources that are surrounding you. You need to be put in the proper situation. It looks like the Sean is not in that situation and he will be judged accordingly and I would like to leave on the fact that I've seen. I chose Bentley before let's not blame to upkeep on that situation. I don't know. What's your? Followed him home. One time I to know what was going backwards. But. That's DR respect coming up. If you missed the NFL games this weekend, we're here to give you a full recap. We'll give you our week two winners and losers nets cold. Welcome back to speak for yourself is winners and losers time each week we'll give you our top three but a quick reminder we're not saying anyone or anything is an actual loser for for one week. Only they certainly look that way out to give us your losers I number three, the bigger losers, Kurt cousins Oh played one of the worst games I've ever seen one of the worst. Games in the last decade that the game all everything play twenty, five, hundred games roughly over the last ten years and it's only happened. Now, five time before back thrown under a hundred fifteen yards and three interceptions. Kirk cousins has got the view Kirk cousins has got the big money. Kirk cousins has got a big arm but on Sunday, it was not pretty for cousins I'm sure he'll we pain. Dan Quinn Oh I feel bad for Dan Quinn. I really did I watched that game from beginning to add thirty nine points a no turnover. We haven't seen anybody ever moved ever with thirty nine points and no turnovers. Insult to injury the same. People still on your head from the Super Bowl when you're lewd at twenty five point lead and then this happens again. But the reason I really again Quinn is a loser wasn't wasn't even fault special teams players Y'all got to be better than that recovered the onside kick kate let that happen. But my biggest loser on a week which this was sad for me actually the NFL fans there were so many star players that got hurt saquon Barkley you Jimmy. Nick, both of you had devante here at Cortlandt you have bruce serve and you had all these players that got hurt and thinking about paying for y'all y'all we'll bounce back but for the NFL fans to lose so many start the NFL fans actually all the losses that occurred might have been the biggest losers on the week. Oh Those NFL fans should be thankful for some injuries that happen sometimes nfl because my prone but got up faster as a commentator because of those same injuries falling off the cliff Nah, just did you watch Ryan Fitzpatrick Week one talked about Kirk cousins head towards game seen in a while you didn't watch that game 'cause. That's a rivalry right there if you look at Dan Quinn. I will feel bad for you except the city of Atlanta's dealt with this before and much bigger stages and much bigger stakes. So not too upset with that. All right. Let's get to my top three losers and number three loser the Texans schedule is dotted. Their play city. Play Baltimore Avenue I seven games or Guest Twenty Nine Thousand Nine playoff teams, and then they may include the Pittsburgh steelers who would have been in this year with the new rules and all that. So you still got Tennessee and green bay still to face this team be lucky that there too and five before to buy week. Number. Two loser. Brown's three continues. Baker feel has thrown an interception in eight straight games. But if you listen to the Cleveland Browns fans, right they're they're like, oh, we fixed our chemistry between him and Dale Dale has an Iro for your right now giving him what seventy seven receiving yards as top forty three throw tail Beckham. So still a lot of issues in woes out there in Cleveland, but my number one loser San Francisco lost a lot. To get the win. That is tough. Man You you lose both you lose Thomas you lose your guys Jimmy. Garoppolo. You lose your guy in the sake of trying to get a win. We'll see how they recover what this mash unit looks like going forward but they lost a ton a win a game of football can be unlucky. It was not very fortunate for the forty niners will bounce back but this is not looking promising and you write overall look good look good for Brown's Oh I'm still not convinced. But to have some fun with it and talk about these winners number three, my third biggest winner, Dallas cowboys, how about them how about this cowboy fans if y'all want to start at Oh to all hell broke loose, it would have been over for y'all statistically speaking realistically speaking I I'll talk status started when to twelve percent chance to make the playoffs star one in one forty, one percent chance to make the playoffs. But more than that. Now, you're actually look like the dominant team in the NFC. Least Eagles. Team and the giants not at Mlive good cowboys let third-biggest winning my number two biggest winner. So for CAM cousins. Law Cam Newton. You fact baby I know you're trying to tell us. So many of us did not believe you but as A. Doubt what we saw with. Our is three, hundred, ninety, seven passing yards over forty rushing yards, rushing valley which. Had third-highest passing yards of your career the most in the last decade Super Cam back as my number two biggest winners my number one winner on a week out you Mitch trubisky because people were trying to put a period where a comma was. Trying. To end your career before your career ever. Really. Yes. Rolled in midst of prayers and pick up your fifth year option. That's disrespectful. Meanwhile, you got five touchdown to interceptions on the season. Now I know what people are saying you ain't nobody play the lions who played the Diet you can only play the team on your schedule, Mitch. So keep silencing the doubters because the road is going to get a little easier going forward got the falcons you got the colts, you can win those games then it might get a lot harder for right now Mitch. Winning I like that about Mr Bisky right there. Would you say no fear. Accommodate. He lugging hit the delete button on his book. About it there and I can see it right now breaking news we're free agency starts next year with Cam Newton for years six, hundred, seventy, four. Dollars forgive is back. We'll let me get to my three winners number three winner Justin Herbert surprise you're starting. Wars Hey what you doing in about ten minutes. You starting this just in just stand you. Number two winner Josh. Allen I am all in on Josh Allen and I, don't understand why the world isn't. Third and quarterback rate right now Josh Allen. Maybe, the. Best. Running quarterback behind the march taxes really don't let the paint. Out, there nothing is coming his next level, but never want the winner is the bucks wonder twin powers activate. We've got Tom Brady who's never been oh to his entire twenty one year career and Tom Brady when he was one, those three times went to the superbowl three times and wanted to of those three times. So I told you'll talk on the real winners the week to man I like to list I like your list you know me and how I feel about the bucks I'm not. So just yet I didn't realize you were rapper Oh this just in you see that justice. Might. Be. Coming up, the Lakers can expose it to the finals with the winner night we'll tell you if that means the door is closed on them nuggets. Net. Back, to speak for yourself let's talk about the Lakers who are rolling and right now winning ten out of their last twelve in the playoff. The nuggets had their shot to even the series Anthony Davis mixed that with his game to roic book, Lakers can go up three Oh if they win tonight. Or by Chris Bussard, NBA analysts get to see my brother, but Marcel is giving the nuggets. Any chance to get back in this theory oh? Yeah. I'll give them a chance. Great Chance Christie weren't on with US earlier when I dropped some of my nuggets. Terms of what this team either two years he caught the. Last four playoff series from his team they've come behind come from behind to win or lease take a lead in the series in those last four playoff series including the to this year down three one still finding a way to win those series. So the cardiac kids I mean they built for this and it takes a gain to three pointer from Anthony Davis to a series instead of a one in a balance. So I think if you're two nuggets, you're feeling good about yourself but you know what I like to hear someone else chime in on this. Already wanted to man is game over. A series of collaborative. Again, I told Y'all Lebron James Twenty two and know when he takes a two and a series lead. But more importantly to net. When you look at ball football basketball any sport with the ball in it, you only place so many winning performances. Particularly, if you're the lesser talented team, the nuggets played a winning performance, remove the scoreboard. If you watch the tape, you like man, the nuggets really would've won that game based on that late-game surge in that comeback than they had you play winning performance, but you still lose the. Problem, is you just had your winning performances which are limited because you know we're GonNa have so many winning performances against acres, but you don't get a win for it because you don't get a winning W for winning performance you w based on what you win and lose a game sorta reason the nuggets are absolutely over and done for is that reason first and foremost but also Marcellus you talk about it you gotTa Win The game between the ear remember when ad hit that last shot there are two reasons why nuggets Saddam for because when His last shot, you just gotTa Watch. Two things occur at one time those two players right there. One has been a bend over like his life over atrocities spike the ball like volleyball that point in time they realize it's over and done with I just need you to realize it as well. Stop. CB. Well. We'll look first of all you know Marcellus is not going to give the Lakers, their props. GonNa win and they're holding the hardware. He's still saw about that other team in the city but. I here's the one thing. I'll say I disagree with you on Denver will not give in mentally we've seen that I mean they could have given into the jazz. They obviously could have given into the clippers they won't give in even if they're down three, I agree with you the Lakers are a better team, the Lakers present clear matchup problems for Denver, the Lakers are going to the finals but the question was can denver make this a series and I do think they. Can make it competitive. Obviously, they need to win the night. They're not coming back from three zero, three, one down or anything like that. But they do have reasons to believe Nicole the Yokich for the first time in six games against this Laker team seem to figure something out offense. He was good against the why our when he was defending him, he was good against a defense. We saw that on the last play of the game that could have been the game winner. McGee gave him a little bit of problems, but the bottom line is Yokich may have arrived finally against the Lakers and he can play. Well, Jamal Marie has progressively gotten better in each series in the playoff assuming he continues to do that the nuggets have real reason to believe they can win this game tonight, and if they win the night, they can think, Hey, we've outplayed the Lakers for the better part of this series. We could easily be up to one. Here's their biggest problem Lebron James. What he looked like, he knows what he looked like in the second half of that game. He knows he didn't play well especially after making all that fuss about I should have been the MVP but so he's come out. This is my warmest. That's the props sleepy. This is my point Lebron didn't well, the nuggets played well, the Lakers won the nuggets lost my my biggest point in. August. For regardless of stats regardless of everything is you're only going to play so many winning performances by the nuggets and the Brian is GonNa only contribute so many losing performances, the nuggets shot their best shot like you need to get that W. Lebron didn't. Play well, and they still won and so that's why I don't give the nuggets any chance because even when you played well and should of one you didn't. So now you just wasted a quality and winning performance because realistically speaking fifty. Fifty. The nuggets are actually going to win this series regardless. So they need to steal some they need to steal one they can't get one stolen from him. I can play better though. Didn't they yoga's play really well, but the nuggets can play back Jamal. Murray. Kim Play by Michael Porter Jr. Kim play better. Several of the other players can is well, obviously you got a point about Lebron. But the nuggets do have another level they can go to as we've seen in all these other series and I think they will tonight I think they'd get this game tonight and make things interesting. We Forget Lebron had twelve in the first quarter and twenty six over August i. mean he can't play Better Guy Leon Act like he just went out there and do a doughnuts Denver has outscored the Lakers and both four quarters and including third quarter in Game Two you win game one. If you're the Lakers by twelve points decisively, you win game two by a Buzzer beater from Anthony Davis from three. You, go from win by lot to win about little that gives confidence to the other team. You talked about why Yokich is starting to fill themselves is simple if you watch the game, you guys know I'm a basketball fishy and Nado the nuggets are running some screen action the you tone them guards did it like here you go a Yoki says now. Figured out unlocked Yokich as a lot of people are pointing out right now. So let's see how that plays out in game three going forward with the mentality of the nuggets that when their backs are against the wall somehow some way they activate showed their best selves coming up. I'll go Jimmy is plan teacher giving our show a letter grade this should be. At them nostrils nostril domicile. Speak for. Yourself. before we go to bring in on Jimmy. Well. Let A. Today show very be nice. Hotel. First of all, I'm GonNa give you a beat. Just goes I like the way you and Reggie Bush beat the brakes off of this boring to be blocked. Off. Most won't give you a beep for your blatant disrespect of billing chicken, his offense. and. The is going to be Cam Newton's offense Cam Newton nothing but a visitor bill belichick is the architect that. Moscow go ahead at this point I'm GonNa have to. Wildly, let me ask you a quick serve. To see shooting like NFL, players who brag donation. You players head to let their body of Work Speaker Paul case they. Look to NFL career up and I couldn't find no highlights. Why you gotTa stop living in the past. Talking about how fast I'm. Old and six feet tall. Wasn't fair. Wet. But Hey I'll before you too. So you can see all the greatness but that is me right there.

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Tom Brady, Cowboys/Giants, NBA Finals Game 5 preview, Eagles, Bills/Titans

"Today answers matter more than ever before that's why IBM is helping businesses manage customer questions with Watson. Assistant. It's conversational AI designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT com, Slash Watson Assistant. Welcome to speak for yourself presented by day. Marceau's. Color was that event these undertones? Okay Next time. To build we've talked to so now you don't want. Because I'm winning today got so much to talk about. Let's get it started with Tom Brady who had the ball with a little over a minute left and down by one to the bears Brady back to back incomplete passes on third and fourth off. Then held up four fingers to ref which seem to indicate. He thought he had another Pine Bucks had already turned the ball over on downs Bruce Arians said after the loss writing news. Take this Brady's explanation. Was it clear for you guys whether it was third or fourth down on on that last play? At you're up against the clock up against the the. New We had a gain of chunk so I should have been thinking more I down instead of you don't. Son. Wrong. There's absolutely something wrong with Brady man and let me tell you the issue. Is that Tom Brady asset this all the long I'm struggling to find out does he actually fit in with the bucks here's what I mean Marcellus. When you have a kidney liver heart transplant when you take an organ and put it into a new body sometimes that Oregon, it can reject the body sometimes that body can reject the Oregon. Why? Because that body wasn't naturally built with that Oregon in place here's what I mean. Tom Brady is a new organ that they're trying to fit into this bucket nears body, and there's a little bit of the body the bucks rejecting the Oregon Tom. Brady a little bit of Tom Brady, the quarterback, the Oregon rejecting the body. Let me break it down for you. Further more surgery limited more but I'M GONNA I'm not GonNa Talk Surgery, but I'm going to dissect my notes that who may do you. Got Last year Jaimes Winston eight point two yours and attempt six in the NFL as far as how far they were throwing the ball. How many yards every time you throwing the ball this year Tom Brady seven yards and attempt better than he wasn't New England but still only twenty second in the league. Why does that matter? Two thousand, fourteen, I played Bruce Arians when he was coaching the Arizona cardinals, every six plays they were taking a shot that was our game plan studying going into that week, Carson? Palmer. quarterback. Every six plays they're taking a shot that is bruce. Arians. Body. This Oregon of Tom. Brady we already know he's more of a check down guy last year Tom. Brady. He led the League. Second in the League passes two running backs, Marcellus. But that matters because the Patriots were built for that that was our bodies. They can run out the backfield chats off the backfield but when you look at the buccaneers Leonard Fournette, bruiser? Receiver Ronald Jones phenomenal game over one hundred dollars, yesterday. Rojo. But he's not that kind of what is wrong with Tom? Brady. Right now more on my first lap on. The Oregon doesn't necessarily Mesh with the body. ooh I like that I laugh interest in I am going to completely disagree reject. Argument like this body is rejecting. Gin You say Bruce Areas is the body. In the bucks in the bucks ain't. TB. Twelve. If Tom Brady got to get in that body. I spent you bruce but you ain't looking like eating some Kale like Tom Brady's all right. Let me get my argument to your palm. Here's my argument why there's nothing wrong right now with Tom Brady. One, he suffering from doing too much without knowing enough You ever been there ever been there in the book I've been hearing a few books chapter one, chapter, two, chapter, three you like all right I'll say this book is going and then sucking you flip the next page that's what it says while you wait a minute and volume two. Chapters is going to reset what's happening with Tom Brady is as he just went through basically a preseason and one game after five games, he didn't have the natural process to learn. He had the natural opportunity to learn his mistakes without the entire world's criticism. I remember vividly when the world shifted from practice to perform practice to be when you couldn't do something. This is where you learned to do it. Remember those days you work on your left hand layups worked on his mood that has never worked in a game but then. Also coaches started to get a little tight and they used to get evaluated from ownership, and now practice turns into performance and so guys can't even work on they're craft to same in practice well Magin if you're going to a new system and Tom Brady and you're like, I can't even work all my Ales and issues what out the entire world seeing it that said, Tom Brady is still on a historic pace for Tom Brady and his success. Here's a couple of little nuggets right here. You know I love me some deep analytics. Pro Football Focus what they talk about DD football not just lazy high approach that you like to take a lot of I wonder who's ranked third this year by pro football focus at quarterback. Tom Brady whose number wanted to air Rogers Russell wills on what metric Oh. You gotta come on. You gotTA. Go on a site for that come on. Very. The point is Tom Brady is going through the process we all have to go to success is NOT LINEAR Look like you're progressing maybe you have to take a step back to go two steps forward. I gotTA disagreement. Like thirty seconds I was riding with my dog my dog look good today. Let you slide I'm a let you pass. GotTa work on Your Life Campos Here's why have to reject that the other issue Tom Brady Marcellus he's having to do things he's never had to do before we go out and play quarterback anymore. Can we talk about this? We look at the sideline blow up remember Tom Brady comes out cussing dog cussing like you're never seen nobody comes before and you gotTa Watch that. We says you gotta be. Kidding me how can we bleeping win like this? What does Tom Brady trying to say when Tom Brady was a new England Marcellus? Penalized they didn't have a lot of penalties third in one, thousand, nine, hundred, one, thousand, nine years on average they were thirty and penalties, but the buccaneers eleven penalties last night one, hundred yards of field position of straight penalties. What does that mean Tom? Brady now has to carry more of the load. So what is wrong with Tom Brady is not only that they don't exactly Mesh, but it's the Tom Brady is used to go out there and play quarterback i. only want to play quarterback Marcellus you and I. We do this show we are the talent, right I hate that name. Corny. Like that implies that other people aren't talented. Talent what that means is we don't have to produce the show. We don't have to direct the show where you don't have to choose the. We just have to come out here and talk and look at. The problem now is Tom Brady has to be the talent plus the producer. The Director Tom Brady has to do more than he's ever accustomed to do we. In New England he just had to go out there and play quarterback but novel do in that greatest of all time when it comes to winning. But now he can't just go out there and play quarterback also, he got to do more stuff with this. Added would give us a day off now here's a day. Just takes his whole mind and takes off your own vacation. Fully, he has not had to do things like this what he's never had to do this before. The fifth time in his career and he started the season with twelve touchdowns at thirteen hundred passing through five games. That means if he's doing this year, he's done it for other times. He's used to this level of success and as crazy as we're going to look at the records, say three and two, he's not doing as well. He's done this for other times and I think those have been successful campaigns. Brady right now is one of six quarterbacks averaging over two, hundred, seventy, five yards passing. Two touchdown passes. You ready for this. Please get. These new. Year. I have learned to write notes notes because I know you can always do. My. Little. Curls up how. You like this, you want to know the other five. Aaron. Rodgers. Russell Wilson Yep that's the home I got you and your heart down you heard. Josh Allen. Dak Prescott. It's hard to beat that if you're going to say Tom Brady. That doesn't. Let me tell you why that doesn't matter. Here's what we know. Last year who led the League in passing. That are this. I'm not saying I'm not saying that jackals or lack of success this year. Yes. But I'm not saying I'm not saying that means like what I'm saying is this Bruce Arians the head coach for the bucks is a reason for all these yards. I don't care about meaningless yards serious making Tom, brady? Passing guards. As Body I. Everybody passing yardage. Bruce Arians, that help we'll know you're sitting here telling me that the finding instead of declining quarterback who he knows the climbing we know. I left knowingly because he was declining. He said I need a new co-pilot to help me fight as they. No. Wrong with the plane lied to me the engine was dead today wrong. The copilot and I we didn't have enough of the right passengers. We had too much weight. You ever GONNA blink small planes probably planning. Socks pointed this is if you're gonNA look and put the focus on Tom Brady Tom Brady's actually doing Tom Brady things and more importantly, he went out there lost game last night. But what other game did he lose the first game of the year to a team won the division three straight years? Is that team that went vision I asked you out. Is The Saints are not thank you. So Tom Brady what Tom Brady does win the division getting the playoffs hopefully go win a super bowl Marcellus twenty, five for forty one, one touchdown no interceptions two, hundred and fifty yards is not Tom Brady things please do not excuse mediocrity and title title that under Tom Brady and stopped trying to win the argument. To the Chicago Bears Declining Chicago bears is not a Tom Brady thing now losing into my Guy Nick foles. Brady thing. Don't try to call Tom Brady thing forgetting what down it is. Marcellus has not a Tom Brady thing and there is utterly in clearly something wrong with Tom Brady now yes you're gonNA see the. Of Side Effects of Bruce, Arians a lot of yards but you're also going to see some of the negatives. There's a lot of undisciplined on this team and Tom Brady clearly isn't used to that, and that's the problem. The problem is Tom Brady is digesting so much information. He even says, I still have gray areas in terms of. Office Bruce Ariza sitting here like I noted offensive. Byron left with is like, I, know the office completely these new players like we're trying to learn the offense slash learn how Brady and that's why he went belligerent on the side is he's done that in New England Thousand Times as Bill, O'Brien about Taub Brung given him the business and also ask Tom Brady about penalties. He's seen this frequently with this team. This team is not as disciplined as before but if you look at this situation, he's been never Ford. Two, thousand sixteen, hundred, and nine. Penalty yards. Leather penalties is rare for Tom Brady to have to see that but it's not rare for him to respond just like that. Coming up at the top of the hour we have more Tom Brady Rogers says is falling off. 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Marcellin talked to me my brother, yes sir do you like Dat Prescott admitting that this is a must win game already o love him saying this and I'm GonNa tell you why I love them saying because I'm all over the place in terms of hottest land psychologically. But I like him saying this because. Deck is saying it would a wink. Trick up his sleeve. For him say a must win. You know what? He's really saying what's he saying here? We go with these boys but and he is guaranteed beating the giants the last six times they played the giants and this might be the worst giants team they go see and all of those gangs. So now Dak, Prescott average in those six wins three hundred passing yards nose or those years, and what do you think you'll do now sixteen has only one interception and one seventeen quarterback rating. You could go out there as speak in hyperbole to create a sense of urgency to remind teams even though we have the easiest schedule remaining thirty seven win percentage are opponents going forward. This is a must win week we go they butts and get this cowboys training back on track. So I love his speaking in hyperbole to remind others of this. But also because he knows he got this one in a bag. It's funny. You say that my brother because while you're right I've never heard someone be so right and so wrong at the same time the loose no love that Prescott saying this. But you're logic and reasoning behind it doesn't make sense that Prescott he realizes the must win. How does not wink wink Heiser wide open because he knows they better win this game because us a layup. Everything you said as far statistically, it's right that Prescott he's throwing for sixteen touchdowns one interception last six games against the giants six. No. Against the Diane's Dak Prescott Thirteen and three in career against the giants and the Washington football team, and he's twenty eight and twenty four everybody else and what that means this is a layup and you better make you layups. You gotTA. Make all your threes. We would like if you hit your mid range jumper. LAYUPS, you're better make your layups that Prescott currently sitting one in three that press got six and eleven in his last seventeen games six and ten in the last sixteen games. So the last season of football the Dak Prescott is played. He is six in ten. He's on track to go four and twelve he realizes Oh. We better win this game not because of some psychological we must win because they much about the. Giants records, abysmal giants. Defense. Not Abyss. Levin overall defense as far as points allow. So while the cowboys been balling enforcement points on the board and the giant suckling. Giants defensive actually pretty capable. But here's the other thing I'm and my first stop with this remember who Prescott got fired and I say that Prescott. Jason Garrett with the number one offense and being a grow either way this. Offense. David Garrett is currently the offense coordinator for the new. York giants and was basically Jerry Jones adopted sign that press got divorced to Family Jason Jerry Jones Yard. So Prescott cannot. Not must not not can't if not or whose hands. So Jason Garrett and he's giants. That's why it's a must win. Okay. All of that. But I think you really skipped over getting even greater and grander in terms of impact for this entire time let's not go organization divorce in a family great law. It's not about those relationships. It's about activating these players around on the cowboys roster because the cowboys are overly talented credibly right. So talented that you're looking at them like, why are we underachieving? It has to be right here because there's certainly ain't right here. Absolutely you gotTa Play Mind Games you gotta get into were play. You gotTA start saying we're more talented I can't say that sounds noxious. Guess what I will say this is a must win win. Win That's like me right now saying you know what my next debate against is a must win I'm more talented. Debate, I do what the boy is jokes. Aside, you gotta look at the situation where he's really trying to be a psychologist. This is not just like XS knows all want to go out there and make sure we put our best foot forward and hopefully we play sec and all that podium talk we'll play well from the beginning ending and finishes the Kaaba away shut up. What's a riddick trying to say is hey, John we bts do it ain't goal happen we're saying the same because I feel you my first real line I skipped it was I don't need players to lie to me for me to feel better but I know sometime fans are like no. Site, the right thing we'll get to save your comments later saying, it's not I. Don't I don't bring all the time on a football field I. Don't need that to lie to me football cliches. We're going to treat this game Mike every other game this is just one game just next game. I don't need that judge head coach for the giants. He felt the all the cliches in the world introductory press conference owned four. Yeah. Cliches her meaning plan that I don't need to cliches I like how you gave me two real but you also have to remember Marcellus tack knows if they lose six point, eight percent chance to cowboys make the playoffs that Prescott what you? Think Marcellus it is as confident as you are. By you saying, Oh, I know we're GONNA win this game. That most of the Brown Sir they lost to the Brown. The same browns team that lost thirty eight to six to the Ravens now yes. Now I think that the browns are contenders instead of pretenders, but the cowboys could have made us all believe the browns were pretenders. It's the browns beating in dismantling the cowboys that made the browns good. So I don't think they're any give me the cowboys right now sir really. Give me the team that's leading the division right now, the eagles even if the cowboys lose this game and you mentioned a one in four about and and that's what I would feel like you want the real conference, you want me to go up to one of four right now we gotta get things on track come on. We gotta play the Cowboys Way. You know what I would say that we're one in four say Philly wins we are one and a half game back from a team we're GONNA see twice that has a harder scheduled enough because we have the easiest remaining schedule you can play. Of. Psychological. Gangs Right now, if you're the cowboys even if you falter this week, that's why this is not a must win. He's really guarantee. Let me ask you this because you've taught me this the two games that are played. What are they? The one literal scoreboard psychological score uncle momentum absolutely that Prescott realizes even if they lose no, it's not a must win as far. Statistically it's not a must win as far as record, but if you lose to the Giants. Now, you are certain that you were sorry. Marcellus when you when you committed now you're in a mayor obviously I love. Cleaner to that people over here thinking you know. Devastating ring is real. Barcella married. Before married when you're flirting, you're not sure about something. You're not sure if you're in a dating relationship, you're wondering okay. How do I like this person do I not but then you're committed, you'll like I'm sure I am certain right now that press gotten a cowboys they're flirting would be sorry they flirting with her way. Sorry Pal. We look sorry offensively like we look good but we ain't got no real substance defensively Wang got no good personalities either like they're flirting soaring if they lose the Owen four giants and they are married. Can Be, and so that's why I genuinely believe that that Prescott No, it's not a must win as far as record. Okay. We got. But he knows broke because you've been in locker rooms much longer than I. he knows if we lose to the giants the second worst team in the league behind the jets were terrible period and it really is not much coming back from that. We might win some games this season, but we're still terrible. Yeah. Yeah. Look you burn up everything you need for. To go forward to fuel yourself to success, and you can't do lose to the worst team. What did you say after that oh? We're worse than the worst. That means you're defeat it right now right now they're down right now they're not on track right now, not playing up to their standard right now Ezekiel Elliott this year is having his worst year in his career right now, Dak Prescott is looking at office and shambles, Tyron Smith by I R I mean this is going to be their roster shift upfront in office a lot already all of those things the defense is Dan last giveaways and takeaways thirty I like you just looking around like Oh my God. Savior in front of us, the sorriest team we're going to see this year we must beat them wink wink I guarantee we beat them because of we're GonNa ever achieve our goals. We gotta do it this. We can beat these boards, keep real which you on the keeper with the audience here in conclusion I look at it like this NFL teams it's who are you capable of beating and who? Are you capable of losing to what do I mean by that on any given Sunday not every NFL team is capable of losing to every team. I'm just GONNA keep it a okay Patrick mahomes and the chiefs they can roll out there and they will beat the jets every time they can roll out there be a giant every time. The any gives is any given line that is a lie. But the cowboys at this point in time it's like, okay. We're not capable of beating everybody. They know that not right now not the way the. Right. Now, if you lose to the giants, you're capable of losing to anyone and that's what the cowboys and Dak Prescott weddig right they're coming out in the broad James can win his fourth title tonight and I'm GonNa tell you why another ring for the King Change the go congress sanction best nick. Bell. By. Welcome back time now for remorse performance sponsored by capital won't what's in your Wallet Hey? Lakers can't be rewarded with an NBA title. If they win game five tonight and win would also mean abroad James, we'll have four titles with three different teams Walton. Michael. Jordan. Was a purpose for six while abroad has lost six times in the finals. Well, yesterday to King said not concerned about his legacy saying quote I don't live my life in good boat legacy. ooh, joined now by. Thoughts. NBA analysts quick. Dogs live was. First Finals win tonight changed the an you. Go conversation man as much as I love Lebron Gentlemen and Y'all know love Lebron. Don't do. It will change the goat conversation because the conversation will still be just that a conversation. It will still be just that a dialogue. I'm trying Marcellus and slick rick to make sure it is conversation as a Lebron fan is a monologue that is not a conversation that is just one person talking to another person that is just Lebron ends talking to an down upon. Jordan fans get Lebron gets four. It's still a dialogue Jordan six for six. No game seven championships, Lebron if he gets. Four. Year or what about the losses what about autumn losses to the Spurs to the math what about that? I want to make sure that it is no longer conversation base and that is just Lebron fans lebrons stay talking to them. Other cats also remember and the NBA that lineup delineation it's five rings is not for its five that line of litigation separates those from Magic Karim Koby Jordan that is the line of delineation several half three others have four, but it's that five number I draw the parallel to the national football league. A lot of quarterbacks have won a super bowl. Many quarterbacks have won two super bowls. But when you talk about winning three, your four super bowls that line liniers and being three or more. You only have Montana Brady Aikman. And Bradshaw that is that line of delineation. So while the fourth vinyls would be great for Lebron, any gets him closer to ending the conversation. It doesn't change the conversation Marcel is because it is just that still a conversation. Oh my goodness. Yes this would change the conversation. If Lebron, James were to go out there and when his four titled Third One with Three Different teams God hears the song for another ring four to king would change everything. This raw talent this talk about Lebron James. As you say, it wouldn't change anything how because this is a conversation as only broken down in a binary discussion with statistics or with the eyeball test and a lot of people wearing the Lord. Jordan sweatsuits with Jordan zone are always go sit there and lazily sit there in a barbershop. Such. As. Everybody else that is involved with the game is going to look stats say this is a death by thousand paper not just one knockout blow like Michael Jordan Michael Jordan when he was thirty five you know what he was doing on his second retirement what is the bronze James about the tonight at thirty five? And get that for frank okay. So now let's have some fun because I want to attack. You know you're going high, which is what the eyeball test old man over here again, this fate. So here we go. You know in life you're not supposed to believe. Anything you here only half of witches seat, right? That's how I look at it. Right so and the Bras era this is an era that people don't understand what's really happening to Kinda damp in US given the broncos flowers. This is an era of perimeter players, this era, the wing players there are so many guys that are close but not that close to Lebron in this era that we don't really see how great he is. Let's talk about guys like a Steph Curry James Harden, Kevin Durant? Close but not that close but this is the era of those guys. Now, let's go back to George. Otto was only one years old two years old so I can't talk to him but I'm talking Slick Rick Yo but and we remember. That era was built for the bigs member. All the bids were controlling it and Magic Johnson and bird gotten old enough to the point where they had to pass the torch to Michael Jordan but don't. Say his closest competition Stockton Drexler. Barkley Malone that's the point. So if you look at the situation where Lebron facing as John, Hellinger, says Lebron is going with the flow, but he is going faster than anything we've ever seen Michael Jordan. was going against the head win and Nash why people like you continue to say that there's no go conversation. But if you use what I use, which is this empirical numbers which I will using my next loud. He's not really going to be a confrontation. The goat conversation has changed. I'm still confused honestly. It hasn't changed the conversation because as you said Marcel listen you said it correctly. I'm glad you said it. There is no conversation. We don't talk about goats. There is no. Thank you off. Go, and we who that is and we know it because and I'm GonNa give this this analogy because Marcellus, your track guide you just told me that we should give. Lebron extra credit because he has a tailwind as opposed to Michael. Jordan. who had to fight a headwinds they've? Played in the era of big men and had to reinvent himself because how the game was played. Then Lebron James had the game shift toward his abilities, which is to be the biggest player on the floor, but also to be a perimeter player and you don't want video because you don't WanNa see him elbowing tyler heroin out of the way, and meanwhile we're going to show you video of Michael Jordan having to go up and over. Patrick Ewing and all types of big men inside just to be able to get to the rim. Yeah. You don't want the eye test because the test kills the argument. But I'm not just going to go by video where you're. GonNa go. And I would hope that you would consider these stats. Number. Of Championships, Michael Jordan has in. Number of league. MVP's Michael Jordan has him number of all defensive selections like Jordan. Hasn't. So ultimately those are the statistics. As we know change from era to era, you can't give me statistics. It's where you rank when you play and Michael Jordan demonstrated that he ranked at the top you can come up with all kinds of goofy mass four channels. Jiffy math is goofy. Championship. Appearances, all that data all I know is Jordan. Got It done every time he needed to get it done. So this does the conversation. Does it open the conversation about where Lebron ranks with the all time greats? Yes but goat no yeah. Four four on which you now I'm not. On my slick because I am Lebron Fan was okay. So watch him out a little bit I co-signed most of what you said wrong. You didn't say nothing wrong I didn't like it. Okay true. Okay. Thought we can. Come up here and lie to me slick lied to me. Let me talk to Marcellus if I may just equipped to bucks please. Marcellus. You went to Columbia Sir. Yes. What what kind of grades You can go home with what a D. Even see because you're gonNA have issues I would assume. All Day Michael. Jordan has six chips. Right Brown has three three out of six. was that fifty percent right failing grade. Okay. If he gets these four chips Marcellus, you smarter than me before out of six West that I think that's still what two out of three, fifty, six percent failing great. But if Lebron can get to five the line of delineation at least now he's looking at what eighty-three percent now you can get to that. Argument now, it changes the conversation three to four does not do much for King James Three to four is still failing in comparison to what Jordan did getting six and going six, four, six, no game, seven Lebron me that fourth so that he can get to five but getting in and of itself Marcellus it actually does nothing to strengthen the core of that Lebron argument. You know what? Give me the three box because I need to see. Rick Bucur in here as well as you guys both have suffered from one of the logical fallacies that as a permeated our society since the beginning they had a lot of times the first to do it we attribute as the best to do it. When when you're in error whereas nut but Do A sky. Hooks. Not, even jumping in Dunkin socks all the way over their knees in water bigs all Sunday guy flies through the Air Oh my God, what is that his leg split like at over the Moon Oh God from the free throw line you know you go to high school games now, Duggar for free throw knock but he was the first to do so yeah, I'm not robbing Michael Jordan of his greatness. Best to ever do because right now we're watching someone goaltender. What. Finals, and there was a time where you went to eight. Let me get out here non-strike? Get to some numbers because I'm staying lane now because I be called up already with the eyeball tests the told you you know the first to do, it's not the best to do. Let's go first into goat territory less than least put Lebron right there on the heels of Michael Jordan. As you can see right here, top ten statistical postseasons says everyone wants to say the numbers matic era. Oh when it matters most would are your numbers look at these top ten performances Oh my God what who has the best one in terms of box mine plus minus, and also PR my favorite category. All numbers are imperfect but they're generalizations aren't they give you a story that you have to take from these numbers and extract Lebron, James, and Michael Jordan sitting there five and five of the top Timbre Lebron James has the best postseason. We've ever seen statistically two, thousand, eight, two, thousand, take that off the screen because I want to see their faces as eating crow. So now we're in a situation where there's Lebron James like. With you and Michael Jordan no one stats and knowing the story what did he do? Lebron's as won his last championship on the day of the Parade Hey, can we make a documentary about me the last dance same exact day at the process coming back from three one, seventy, three, win team guess. Hawaii goat man and Michael Jordan I need a documentary that same day look it up if Donald believe. So now this get to where we are now peak to peak. Oh, my goodness because you don't want to go out there and just give me the simple how many times he's been to the finals how many times he won the finals Oh deficit player. How about this measuring piques my favorite two categories once again, Michael Jordan and Lebron James Right they're only separated by one digit one number. You know the gap between number two and number three. Lebron Shaquille O'Neal is three point seven take that off. Here's my stats but. To address barbershops because they don't WanNa, hear my numbers. Here's mustache. The Pete they're exactly basically the same. Do it terms of being in the conversation? We know that they're right there. So how the hell now, if he does one more thing, one more log in that fire that does that change the intensity of this conversation and move closer if Nassir passing who say is to go. If you want peak how `Bout this believes. Champion. The League, scoring champion and defensive player of the year in the same year. That's what Michael Jordan did in nineteen eighty, seven, eighty, eight because I have a four to five. Better than anybody else and I can stop for anybody better than anybody that. Gives me a year. Okay Would that be. On this in this era, and by the way, Dr Jay's going to take an issue with you about this whole idea that Michael Jordan was suddenly the first guy who is aerial acrobat and was taking off from the free throw line. It's not like Michael. Jordan. Invented going air these are. The most. Post. Unfortunate that a Bill Russell even some wilt chamberlain, a Doctor J. Cetera don't get into this conversation they gotta go to different barbershop, but you're right. I shouldn't slider like that. But the numbers they don't they don't support it. And by the way have an we disputed this whole idea that honest was the real MVP this year it wasn't this a shutdown year. There's a lot of things that bring into question Janos being able to do it. Nobody is ever questioned but Michael Jordan deserve those two things in those years. By the way, he didn't just do it one year. He was a ten time scoring champion nine time all defense I found it interesting when you look at, Lebron James has done when he led the League in any category for all of his numbers, you know what? He's you times he's done that. Twice, he led the League one year in scoring, and this year he led in assists he has been be ultimate utility do a little bit of everything and I've done it for a long time. But for the same reason that we don't talk about CAL ripken junior being one of the. Great Baseball players I have to discount what the longevity of Lebron James Does for his numbers and considering how the game has changed. The numbers have been inflated. So you give me a PR PR, does is strictly offensive numbers. Of course, those numbers are going to be inflated. So I just can't I. Look I I'm GonNa go based on the awards that they won while they played I'm going to give that more weight I will give you this credit though 'cause I did a lot of work. Then you know what I, I do a lot of work. My argument, it's because I know that the argument has holes in it. So I got a pace as much stuff up there like what are you doing? Slim's hold it up rather than just those lack solid bricks go challenge this. They're not all offensive numbers steals is considered as well. So I don't know what you call that more. Lead the League here about who did that? Age birt's like that's who he was playing against Michael Jordan. Jordan Argument to tell about WHO's talking about CAL ripken. Always talk about best baseball player Babe, Ruth? Why? Because it's the first baseball player to actually look like something and then we hold onto that in folklore forever just like over door Michael Jordan Nike's greatest contribution to our society is not their shoes is branding and marketing. They did for one athlete Michael Jordan, where he's in protected rare air that no one wants to use statistics and logic to let someone else pierce and Michael Jordan knows this he knows he's winning the story conversation but he also knew Lebron was coming in the statistical category. That's why he had to do that Damn docudrama and come out there and say this my last point is this. Abroad James in longevity entire a peak performance and we don't even know how this movie is going to end. Because at this time Michael Jordan's movie was showing you the credits. It was about time for him to move on. We don't even want to count his declining years or his visit years where the Lakers were supposed to be. wizar- ears and they have not disappointed in terms of his greatness still being up there. So if you want to end this conversation in your barbershop shop. Closed doors but me I'll be sitting over here. Watson aesthetics stats add up and Lebron greatness go up with it sale I. Got One question. But what was that song? Can you run that back for? Which one another one Jordan singing other. The king. Saul engineer. Another ring, the every four to king. We will change everything. Proton. Let me let me on the remix brokers. I got another ring. The king is just bleeding. Don't mean a thing coming out. On top and We'll tell you what a win. For the division lead. VOYEUR. Jordan. Well Amac to speak for yourself the Eagles Earth seven point underdogs of the steelers on Sunday according to Fox bet and Carson. Wentz, the squad is trying to extend their first place lead in the NFC east with their second win of the season taking on a top three you know steelers team so Marcellus. The Eagles can run away with vision with a win on Sunday run wear off. TREADMILL is. Going nowhere like what can they run away? First of all, they're not GonNa win but beyond that were they going I don't know if you go back into the history and watch some of the classic television shows like the three stooges is something you ever seen him want just hold them by the neck and running. How about Tom and Jerry anything like that point me the Philadelphia Eagles are going nowhere even if they were to miraculously win this was not You don't listen front-row. Look at US schedule three weeks a stretch at Thanksgiving around seahawks packers, saints. If I'm anyone else in that division named Dallas Cowboys I'm sitting there like they're going nowhere and the fact that they have no confidence to go anywhere we WANNA game. Yeah. Because our quarterback was running the ball probably GonNa hurt again. Oh Okay Well We. We tied sense see. We play Washington. We lost again. Okay. Here's the point. The point have no confidence and even if they were to muster up enough confidence to execute and win a game, they're not going anywhere because they're still going to be one and a half in front of a team. The Dallas, cowboys that they had to face two more times the eagles can absolutely run away with the division with a win on Sunday but as Because mentally not statistically what we already know is this Marcellus you said, I've said it thirty minutes ago they're only going to be a game and half up thank you gotta get where they but here's where they're going and if the eagles win on Sunday what would have happened in their last three games you would have tied the Bengals a team that we now realize actually isn't terrible 'cause Joe Bureau. Have beat the forty niners a team that is maligned, but still has one of the greatest coaches on the road mind you and then you would have been at three steelers team. Let's what else would have happened in the NFC last week's cowboys would have lost to the seahawks loss of the browns and beat no-one for giants or loss to and four giants the Diane's would have. Lost to the cowboys and The Rams. And everybody else is the football team. We already know they don't even know what they do in a quarterback. Here's what I mean. The Eagles can run away with the division not statistically, but they can sit here and say wait a second we're trending upwards everybody else is on a steep slope downwards. The Eagles Austin Washington football team week one that loss of going to haunt them for a long long time. But you gotta remember Y'all got to put that joint behind you nick. If the Eagles do beat the steelers, they're the only. NFC. East team that would've actually had a credible victory on the season. The cowboys on the other hand because realistically is cowboys. Eagles. That's what this conversation today you cowboys can't gain anything this weekend Marcellus they have nothing to gain and everything on the Navy I give you that nothing to game. Day But man you've been in the locker room. You'll be oh and fourteen. You're just Kinda like, okay. We're supposed to pass the best potatoes too but the eagles if you beat a three steelers team like wait a second wait a all this were actually good. Yeah. Okay. I'll give you that part I won't give you the part where you whispered understated maligned forty niners team. Maligning. That showed up at the play. The forty niners Levi stadium where. All you gotta make a right by the hospital and go in there. That's where all the players are in the hospital. They are no forty niners available to play in that game and you get a win off of that. I'll give you that even though it's not the way you want to win, which is why up taking shots right now at the eagles, this is amazing that this division is you have termed and I love it. NFC lease is in this position where you really saying. It's not even a war of attrition. It's like who's going to back pedal and cross the finish line first because eight wins whizzes division. Maybe, seven maybe. I am being real about that as well. So if you're any teen and let's just be real narrow to focus as you say cowboys, how can you ever feel like you're out of it? If all you have to do is get to a finish line. That's a good point. The question of on the floor is, can the Eagles run away with it? Yes. They can run away with it can make get caught. Yes. Let's see. Let's go to the. Go to the details if the eagles are game and a half ahead and they will not see the cowboys onto later in the season as I look at it and you want to see the cowboys. The Not GonNa see the cowboys for a minute. Yes. They can run away with it. Now we'll they get caught who knows potentially. But if you go out there and dominate think about this, all we've been here before. When you take l. Bro and you finish your games that you played at one o'clock game and then you get back to the crib and you're watching four o'clock game and you're like man we just lost. Eagles beating the steelers. A nice now Carson wentz beat. With a bunch of nobodies and meanwhile you are Prescott Digest lost, Tyron Smith, huge loss mind. You cannot understate that and you like I don't know how we can get through this season. So yes, the eagles can run away with it. Okay. Cowboys might be able to catch them we. When they see him on December twenty seventh half Game Bat, they might be able to catch them but they can run away with it. Right now is a stay mark. First of all, your timing right there you play at one o'clock Game Andy you're watching the four o'clock game. Did you ever shower like how you can host? Alex. Right after. Nasty Art. Here's a conversation. Now I'm having my head because I listen to you. I'll show people say talk turn but I actually listen even more. I'm very active listener and I remember someone coming out here with a great widely ism saying hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard and then I start looking at these rosters I like what was more talented Oh The Dallas cowboys are more talent. Absolutely right. So now you start to say, well, what's going on now working as hard there's conversations about commitment about effort between ear and you know that in football, the hardest thing to dress up is no talent. But if you have talent, if you don't were court here, you could get undressed but he put them close back home. The Dallas cowboys going to be in a position where they like the world is caving in on US right now but we're not maligned in terms of what the Philadelphia Eagles are dilawar and we're not as a talented has the eagles are. Go here. Let me get. Let's. Fix this. Let me know because now let's talk about the eagles are the only team in the NFC east that does not have internal issues. What do I mean? Let, me speak the football team. They have a complete quarterback controversy internal issue that is an in-house problem the dallas cowboys. Defensive. Coordinator makes it through week eight like Jerry. Jones consistently is talking about we can't fix this. We're GONNA fix this hour. We'll find a way to fix this go the New York giants. I'm not going to rush dress y'all know sorry but. But. When you think about the eagles external shoes, people like Marcella said Ben Carson Wentz. Put in Jalen, hurts Ben Carson. wentz. But the eagles don't have internal dysfunction. I'm not talking about injuries I'm talking about internal chaos and confusion. Team has a quarterback controversy the Dallas Cowboys they have a coaching controversy let the head coach Terry owner rather Jerry Jones you but the eagles have the best head coach and they don't have the internal issues I'm not talking external as you scribble like you're so nervous when pim moving here we go. Okay I. Know for fact that there is some belief conversations in terms of players on a team believing that Carson Wentz going forward. You've been on ts before what high money dues it could be your best friend eight. That's my best e be real. If he ain't plan, well, walk around that locker room to last you go here people like Abraham. Talk to your best Seabrook I noted, for fact, I'm not called anybody I'm not GonNa wet snitch or dry snitch I do know that perfect but that is not so I'm not sure report audience here's talk about their reports in years past about Carson Winston leadership not so much this year but their been conversations to the point where people to take form we've her Fletcher Cox this year reclining but I love declined to players because I was walk declining. quarterback why do that when you know that somebody saying h a quarterback that you're listening to an inaugural last not least you say there's no dissension there's no conversation internally. Is Jalen. Ross yourself. Didn't get drafted this year. I wonder why do if there's no issue? There's no dissension. I doing there he ain't GonNa play play receiver also wildcat routes the port of it is if this hit some more adversity what I'm talking about fester. When I'm talking about what manifest until then go ahead with your hot take. All right. It's time to make our super six. Let's stick with the Eagles and steelers which one. is going to win Bahama. I'm going with my heart over my head Eagles are going to win twenty seven to twenty four. You know what you convince me make a score closer eagles twenty, four, steelers thirty seven make sure you get to super six picks in for free before kick-off Sunday for your chance to win wonder what Paul from the bad deal with one hundred grand she won last week in the better I know what she did and for top story scores and more goto the Fox sports APP coming up in all story. Tom Brady had a rare mixed up last night's loss but if he's good enough to carry the book. Watch, speak for yourself presented by a Marcellus Wiley here. May over there. Is Driving me leaving you in this fresh food. I got to get to this story right here talking about Tom Brady were two bucks or noun three two after losing to the bears last night. Brady. On threw one touchdown pass actual keep point out. But he still had a chance to drive Tampa to a win late in the fourth quarter after turning the ball over on downs he appeared to yet another to run holding up four fingers to the REF Grady said after the game he should have been thinking I down instead of going for more yards so I chose Tom Brady good enough to carry them No absolutely not and it's not an indictment on Tom Brady he just has never had to train that muscle. Tom Brady has never had to carry a team before he's had to carry a lack of offensive talent. He's had to carrying off ineptitude. He's never had to carry a team before again, nineteen years two, thousand and two, thousand nineteen. The Patriots number three as far as fewest penalties on average the bucks last year, the worst most penalized team this year, the most penalized team that means Tom Brady is having to do more but Tom Brady Marcellus, he's never really had to do all that all his super bowl years top ten scoring defense is all his super bowl wins. That is. Now yes. The bucks defense is good. This year number eight, but you gotta remember he is having to carry so much. But really my biggest point Marcellus is this and I'm really gonNA shoot bullets. Asked is fine who Tom Brady got too much on his plate. I last week I'm going to the doctor's office on. My voice, my voice. I'm going to the doctor's office BRO and I can't find my air pods I. pulled out my air pot places is empty. I'm running late though I had papers in my hand everything I opened the door to. Must have left my headphones they must have phone the street. I'll leave the office I go down I'm running on the street looking down down, I go to the car door. Hey. Open my car door I. CAn't find my hip bone all of a sudden the music in my ears stopped playing and I'm like, Oh, I have my in. Ears as a whole. What happened Marcellus I had too much on my plate Swat forgot about the little things how Tom Brady forget that it's fourth down because he has too much on his plate forgotten about the little things. So Tom Brady is not good enough to carry the bucks because right now he's got too much on his plate man. have to. Take. What to do now, need this check I gotta say. Okay you know those cameras were on auto chassis just took it to go damn you. You noted those cameras alive in their role rolling this for the world consumption but. Okay. I'm going to be Tom Brady right now you're you as you are May. I have something to say to you talk to them. What did the forefinger say to the face slap? To Plate of top ready to go not too much plate. Let me take you to were my responsibilities. Take Me. I'm a father of four and I feed them breakfast dinner. Working Here too. It's not too much on their place when they're sitting there looking like I. Don't know what to do. You know what I hear stat like what's taking them. So long to processes to digest this to go out there inefficiently have this meal is day daddy what's that and I'm like explaining to them because this is Tom Brady first time sitting there it ain't too much on his plate he liked Blues Barroom. What that play I've won six championships, six food eating championships, I know how to eat but I don't know what this is and right now Tom Brady is heavy a practice for the world's consumption everyone's watching Tom Brady figured this out and it's crazy because when you go to school what happens when the teacher has questions like Tom Brady sitting class like, okay I know y'all my students good everybody else here. Good. Give John. Hiller the critic. Dog, though, we say my. But. The point is Tom Brady sitting there teaching a lesson dead. He's trying to figure out himself why he in straight everyone right but it's not too much on his plate but it is and you you let me to my point and I don't know if we're saying the same thing yet fourth and five game is on the line. This is where Tom Brady forgets that as fourth down there a couple airs in mind and I'm GonNa show you think about this if this fourth and five I just need the I that's. The Yard I just need to get me there. But where are all the receivers nobody ran around to the sticks auto receivers ran a skinny post not fifteen sixteen yard dig. So what's that? Tell me Marcellus, it was they didn't call the play to get four and five and Tom Brady didn't change the play to get them to fourth to get that I think about this, and this isn't even a debate opinion as much. Anymore this is real. You're smart man you notice better to me Tom Brady in New England if he? Hears. That play come in his fourth and five why the Heck we run in a skinny post on my left a fifteen yard dig on my right and a nine yard comeback on my left with the running back check down at three yard. No, no Tom Brady would have got to the line and been like you know what he would have made inaudible. He would change the play call. He would've called a time out. He would have said this doesn't make sense but because Tom Brady has already overloaded with so much information. He gets up there and all we can do is run the play you just like you know what? Let me just run the play Tom Brady has too much on his plate because if he didn't that wouldn't have happened last night for getting fourth-down Marcellus although I made a joke on twitter, it's not an attribution to old age that's an attribution to excess information and that's an attribution to information overload too much to care too much to carry you know Sanjay it is heavy the crown that the king wears the Goat Ma-? To carry even though pro football focus has them third ranked this year behind. Eh. Roger Russell Wilson I'm what I'm still waiting for what? Oh. No no time. Now let's just slide an hour ago. What what is what does Tom? Brady ranked thirty I'm. GonNa, give it to really ready. Yes. One of six quarterbacks averaging two, seventy, five plus fix wasn't going thirty. To touchdown passes plus the game you want to hear that list. Sure Rogers Wilson Mahomes Dak.. Another six. Birds. Okay American. I'll talk to him and his corner. I don't know what pro football focus does in their lab. He doesn't know he doesn't know. But. Never. Do know that Tom Brady doesn't have too much on his plate. I know that Tom Brady is good enough to carry the buffs know because the team that they're facing in their division to try and snatch the crown from their heads New Orleans saints have to win this weekend against the chargers Monday night football just to keep fifty. So hold on we lost to us so we know we lose tiebreaker less we beat you the second time how ever y'all have to win just to stay with us and Tom Brady has just finished ago preseason in front of the world's consumption. If you look at this team right now, Tom Brady is not the Issue Tom, Brady is dealing with information overload by a standard of greatness. He has limited comprehension with his leadership and usually when you're in that position of leadership in greatness, you have full comprehension to the point where you know how to discern what they're saying and what you should listen to entrust. He's going through that negotiation right now that's why maybe it sounds like I'm giving him a pass. Now I think the issue at hand is the issue that all couples go through. We're having a communication issue. We did not establish the terms at hand good enough to carry the bucks. Wear see I'm answering good enough to carry the bucks to a super bowl. It's okay. Great. You're answering that that now I have to say you are in fact wrong I was gonNA give you half. That don't go Tom. Brady no-one a super bowl in new. England without a by remembering the NFC without a by never want super bowl without having a first round from about by remember this year there's only one by the NFC. The bucks are clearly not going to get that probably going into packers going into the Seahawks, not going to Tom Brady's bucks. So when I say good enough to carry them Marcellus, I'm saying good enough to carry them to a super bowl, a super bowl victory. This team that Tom Brady is playing with with the bucks he is. He's not good enough to carry them there. I don't know where you'd think he could enough to carry them to maybe to. NFC South title, and I don't know where you think he really GonNa go. Okay. Let's be real packers seahawks San. When they get healthy, we'll see how they play. Right? Well, say a friend you better get healthy because we all know how it's going to play out right now except division packers, what do I see the to Air Rogers the system continuity? No wonder you hit the ground running phase. Faster than everybody else seahawks continuity plus let us Cook Hashtag been going on for years and now they finally made that transition. But look at that continuity it didn't look ill Tom Brady just walking off the streets rings dragging everywhere same, which means I guess above five hundred despite not preseason no off season and this team has just piece together the four Voltron I'm just telling you been. You know I mean, humbly say this leads. To I won the national championship in the four hundred meters and my year what year. His tracks that. How however you? Well, thank think twelve. To. Back on a stat, he won thirty years ago when you take. Bundy but let me tell you why that's important wire and we set the national record like fastest twelve year olds in world history because. You Ain't nobody overseas. So we were fattest twelve year olds ever bring it up why look at me now? That I hit the ground running sometimes teams at the ground running, you bet on them and I chose. The packers, Seahawks, and a little twelve year old I wanted to be fast and make it. Olympics you losing your money. If you continue with those best be careful big dog coming up. We May. Dallas struggling. Xavier. Woods says you can't expect guys that go full speed all game. We'll get into that comet. Let's see for yourself presented by Hyundai. Welcome back to speak for yourself. Let's Talk About The Dallas Cowboys we've been getting crushed for not only allowing the most points per game this season, but also for the lack of effort on certain plays including OB as long verse touchdown run last week remember that against the Browns we'll stay Xavier. Woods acknowledged your poor play earlier this week y'all take a list. I ever been good I mean in certain plays Some Guy I mean me included. maybe a lack but. The efforts there I mean you expect we're NFL young big. Full speed for sending plays s not it's not possible but We push push push it hard we can. I mean. We know you want spend the backside corners GonNa make a play on opposite side. He ran food. The whole time just was not. POSSIBLE TO BE HONEST There's a reason we have a segment called Keith in ninety nine. Hundred joined by Lavar airing. Waiting but as A whole show. Marcellus talking to me man, you got a problem with Xavier was coming. Off. com is horrible. Look lots tech through better. It's right a better. Cobalt, and he'd been in the League event. You get this man what is going on, but let me stay in the spirit. Of Our season, which is presidential season right now everybody's been watching the debates. You'll know how to game goes and no matter where you are which side of the ledger, your beliefs. These comments are more about politics than policy if you know the difference regardless of what your policy is, you need to be presidential and how you articulate your politics. Okay. Oh. To and keep it at one hundred. But if you neck Oh, it one hundred here's a way to keep it not an on and let people off the hook. Give you an example hurry towns are we see NFL films and Dion Sanders is sitting there looking into sweetest like any player ever wristbands up chains hanging. You can see the band. Dan Out the back you know he ready to war and then play stars he just look at the receiver. Go, have known that play I know I've been in the trenches, a mini times and they. Get the ball wide receiver screen. He steps out of bounds. I ain't got nothing to do with that play but to fully articulated and do it in the way to did it makes people start to question not only your effort but the collective effort because you didn't do it is I would say a presidential way. So take a little bit our ownership cleanup how you say because what you said it was wrong. It's just in come out strong enough. Look I'm torn on this I know I don't really have a problem with it because he kept really kept it a buck fifty like he or no lies told at all and if we real Lavar you and I can speak to this better than any because linebackers and defensive backs are the only ones who truly understand the issue at hand they're the only ones who run every play and don't get subbed out receivers they can go out running backs, they can go out offensive lineman they stay in a game, but they don't really travel far distances defends events, y'all know y'all rotate let's. y'All know your. LINEBACKERS and defensive backs every play we gotta run. So yes, you do pick your spots you gotta figure out aid where can I get a little bit of energy and where can I not the problem with Xavier Woods and his comments are the cowboys aren't picking their spots? Well, can we show you to Opie J. Touchdown again the reverses last weekend Salen Smith Cowboys linebacker he picks his spot. The problem isn't that he picked this spot the problem he picked it raw there right there. He Walk in America sees he's walking with. Four. And landed on the plane. So now, data like Dang. Now, coaches going to see me walking because none of Y'all made the play I don't have a problem with Xavier. Woods. Logic behind his comments, you do pick your spots on defense. The problem is you better pick them better than that? Yeah absolutely I agree with you guys like you look at the situation, there's not one player that plays every single down one hundred percent every single time one, hundred percent of the time not junior CEO, not not fifty two out of out that used to play in Baltimore any of the guys that you could sit there and look at it and say oh my. Gosh they played with their here on buyer. You can find just as many plays where they weren't running as hard to the ball as they should have been. So for me I look at it from the standpoint and you pointed out Jalen on Jalen is definitely fast enough to go to sideline and make that play before that's out but he wasn't given that effort. I think about it to retail is You know the same exact thing. That Xavier. Woods just said, does anybody have a problem with it and? Right to Rachel says. Every single play I'm not going run down the field on this route. If I know the play is going the other way, I might work my way into it but I'm not running one hundred percent of the route. Nobody have a problem with it but it's because your results are so poor and they don't look like they had any change in sight. Joe Can't say something like. Your Woods to say this you. That's like, Hey, they caught us. Come from behind the trees. We are going to. That was. Quote everybody out. It's bad timing in this portaits. Well, it is a bad calculator made this calculation of which plays to take like Ottawa's saying that you went to was will I got to push back though I played with junior CEO Kobe years I as he to play to suck on the ground now. Say But In front of them. To come down. To like none of he might be a ninety, five percent or One hundred but he? Over. Tilting overdosed. So much, you got to look at when he doesn't talk. I give. Right there. Salsa. This, never leave your mouth because it makes you think that this is mindset. and. That's the problem like you can't look at coach. You know I ain't got. Me Today coach so. I got a little bit on their coats. On like thirty percent right and so the boss that you can't be out there making us think that you're running calculations which plays important and which plays a not your time to be spent better to net I give it to you this way his teammate Joe Thomas said, he doesn't think it's an effort issue. He says it's a lack of consistency and communication and we. Know that that allows you to play faster if we are being consistent with our communication. So it's an interesting way. He's skinning the cat by basically almost saying the same damn thing when we pick our spots, we picked better spots because of our communication that's how you play faster. But I'M GONNA, give it to you like big Schon just gave it to your own Detroit to. Really, listen to a lot of new Rabbo big shot one of my favorite artists and he got me back in new game because this succo said. Hard work don't mean squat if it ain't Bart think about it. We all want to work hard and my wife and I are completely different. She's hard work to the tilt and I'm smart work with a little word built in but I'm smart work. I'm like these millennials like how old but as I don't want all that extra stuff and is this amazing that we are watching this manifest like mindsets, how to pick your spots to pick your spots and if your results good, do you get a pass for the spots you picked? That's all happening right now in this country which you on this because I have always been a work smarter not harder guy. Even to Mount Detriment but gentlemen sometimes you just gotTa live to him. Sometimes you got a lot think about this. Tom. Brady. Yesterday made one of the most egregious errors anybody can make. One of the most egregious he forgot what down it was with the game on the line but post game, the reporter says hey. Was it clear for you guys whether it was third or fourth down on the last play this is Tom Brady's quote. Yeah. You're up against the clock you know and you're up against I knew we had to gain a chunk so I should have been thinking more burst down instead of chunk combat down. The. Question. Of Tom Brady would've told the truth honestly I didn't know what down it was worth talking about it leading the show with it is Tom Brady too old to play the game Tom Brady have early onset dementia. There's Tom Brady like we're doing. CLO- Tom Brady just lied to examine your words. In this instance, he should've just lied to them. Now I couldn't lab because we're going to stay big Sean on this one. All right. Here we go. He was making it clear in comments I don't mess with. Little raggedy coach I don't mess with. You, Better Call Saul, better defense we don't mess. I. Meet keeping it real. That was passive aggressively deflecting shame saying that. We out here, the ball and we're gonNA make some plays for you. What do you expect us to go full throttle one, hundred percent of the time or this do. We call these defense's making us look now I gotTa answer these question now man just let you know hey. All of us are y'all are we gotTA lovelier. Now you've. BEEN HERE BEFORE Teammate doing well, and you're you do but you doing this a while. Out here. GonNa WanNa. Really rock would be so right. I. Give a real example when I left the. Olive the. Eight name we I mean that sounds better doing it felt like we were. We weren't that good and I've ever do ties where I had to make sure I separated church and state. Separated From what the hell bills was because it was my franchise, it was my contract year in that situation. So. Woods who quite as Kip is ranked the fifth best safety this year and turns his pass coverage. so He's like, Yo y'All talking a lot about these runs that I'm not so ranked in and doesn't have anything to do with me as a d. bag. y'All forgetting ask me questions about how I'm bowling top five in this league when that balls in the air so as you say. I'll miss was y'all in this moment and I talked to push back. Martine. Tom Brady, Tom, Brady, lot he says to go. Even though the goat lied in that conversation. Yeah that's real. That's real. You got me on my big sean tip I can't follow that up though but that one of the. Marstellar. Got End with this breakfast. You taught me this winter. No one cares what you do until you not doing what you're supposed to be doing at the end of the day defensive coordinators they're not gonNA bring up if you loafing or not. If the ball gets tackled the him back guest tackling read up, it's not a big deal. No one cares about that stuff until you're not doing what you supposed to be doing cowboys are supposed to be winning games, they not doing that. So now you gotta nit pick every little detail hated. The titans are in. The bills. Water bills. Players have a huge treason be upset. ME. Speak for yourself. Let's talk about the titans who are scheduled to host the bills on Tuesday but it took a lot to get to this point at least twenty three Tennessee players and personnel have tested positive for coronavirus in the last two weeks they still held a private workout recently when they were supposed to be on lockdown some call for the team to forfeit their week five matchup against buffalo under the revised Kobe nineteen terms neither team will get paid if that happened wars back with us. Auto. How should the bills players feel about Titan situation? I'm sick I'm sick. Bills Player I'm sick not literally. But I'm like I'm Peo because all in this to go puns like let's let's be we all in this together. That's why these conversations with y'all who've been in the locker rooms even longer deny because y'all realize like look half the players weren't really trying to be here no way. Like is in the middle of a pandemic, but you know what I love the Game I love my teammates, I love sports I. Love The fans. Let's do this clash but. Let us paper due to play. Me To my first point La based on what I read about the NFL PA rulings. If the game gets canceled, you don't get paid. Okay. So what that means is Stefan digs on for fourteen million dollars on this season. He's don't lose out on like he would lose out on nine, hundred, thousand dollars his game check that's what that means. So the. Bills Player. That's the first reason I'm at the second reason is very simple. A We all in this together, y'all I don't like somebody getting. Kobe is unfortunate because who knows how it happened, but for you oughta still be trying to sneak in these practices allegedly like now y'all costing me game checks but also any nfl the off day what day is the Marcellus Day On Tuesday gentlemen, and now y'all playing on Tuesday. So y'all got me playing on my off day not fault of my own but because y'all if I am a bills player, I am absolutely livid potentially was going to cost me money. Okay. Now you didn't cost me money now you cost me my birthday but after we play your I, got a back door and play the chiefs on Sunday. So now I don't have my off day and have a short week to play the toughest quarterback arguably talent. Wise of this generation. Now, we got issues man. Playing on my day off what they do. I would feel a certain type of way too, and I understand the whole universal pack that all the players signed onto in terms of respecting the league protocol and then you violate it. You feel a certain type of way. You certainly feel blindsided by that. That said far bills to add a little levity before I get into it I think. Why the hell? Now. Being talked about speak for yourself. Personally. undefeated and our quarterback is third in MVP. On us because we gotTA respond to Kobe. Boy Ass. Slick Here's the thing my wife and I handle situations like this. Differently I always build into the equation. I'm kind of like the League office in my mentality I, always build into the equation some issues no matter what I never look at anything that I'm going to enter in as it going to go perfectly I know something's GonNa happen whether it's me as the culprit or someone else there won't be an adjustment because the only thing that is certain in life is uncertainty talk about it that saying my wife isn't that like that and I've been married to her for six years we've been together for nine years and we are still different. My wife is to Puck. I am snoop. My wife goes to ride on every issue no matter what and Bang on it and I see it happen all the time meanwhile down for the smoke but I'm chill with it. I'm cool with it. I'm relaxed with it. If you the buffalo bills, it's unfortunate that your life has been complicated and delayed and throwing around the calendar because of what they did but also this respect that those guys put themselves harm's way but now they're in harm's way. So let's make sure we don't go too far. It's her how we feel and not respect that these guys actually contracted a deadly virus in process. Mean, this is a big concern issue. The way they respond is by being major concern. There's a bigger issue here guys that concerns live within the Titans Organization every other organization out there. You know why? Because we're talking about gang checks, we're talking about four pitcher gains. What if this becomes a trend? What if this really isn't? Oh, the protocols weren't right with Tennessee. They didn't do what they were supposed to do their the reason why we're here right now what are we see this team pop up? Would it bet team pop up with it and now you're talking about game after game being canceled I don't care if you're a salary but are bonus guide that got millions of dollars that puts you in jeopardy. If. You're the guy that puts you in jeopardy if you're on the bubble type of guy who needs these games and could you think about this you miss out on playing in the game and be. released. Next Day and be looking for another job that next week and things like this can keep you from actually even being able to get a job somewhere else. It's gotta be major concern Ano- bigger major concern in terms of what is can mean moving forward into this season. La. That's why I'm bills player like I'm heated heated not because of the initial contraction but I'm like Yo y'all got this like if someone take all the necessary precautions sold the y'all can get right and so that these games can continue to move forward. I'll push back on you a little bill. Bill's Crew Mbo. Of course, you worried about you and what you gotTa do to make sure you continue to get yours continue to keep your family safe makes her everything you've got going on over here. It's cool and then if you see this other ship messing things up, that's about to now impact you you looking at them like come on man know what you're doing here man so I just I, know if I'm a bills player I'm selfishly like A. y'All get this right because why am I now suffering? because. Losing that off-day your. Whole. Day is the only thing to gets you from week to week charge these. Short victory Monday victory. Monday you get you got baked hates no that's why I now. I wouldn't be gracious to let it slide particularly the fact that they're still sneaking in workouts. Yeah. look I know outlier in this conversation as I have messed up mini conversations with my sis abilities the way I perceive things and how take things and just brush him off. Told you I'm snoop man just chilling but murder was the case that that gave me like all. With the smoke. Don't ever think about that. Here's the thing. This is a disease virus that doesn't discriminate. So by Hook or Crook, however you contract it. It's not sitting there saying, well, what was your protocol? There have been people who have white down everything and been responsible unfortunate leader gone from from this planet in terms of contracting the deadly complications that come from, and then there are people who are irresponsible as they probably out there chilly because three hundred and twenty, four, million Americans have not contracted this virus as seven million unfortunately have. So it's weird how you're going to try to place. You're concerned that can turn it to blame in a conversation that doesn't really give a damn about you to a large degree I look at it like I would be heated as well. I was selfishly be heated. Where to direct it. Imperfection that'd be heated at. Something that doesn't care about anybody. So it's weird if you look at case by case be careful how far you dig down Try to plant a flag because they're not going to know what you're planting it for, and that's the problem here the sensibility of all of it is we say okay well to. Be carrying on with their practices, go through the proper protocol. But these guys aren't in a bubble and you're not GONNA be able to put these teams these franchises in a bubble for the amount of time for them to get through the rest of the season and the playoffs and the Super, Bowl like they did with the NBA. So that is a disadvantage because it. Only. Takes One person one person and we all know if we're going to sit there and blame to titans or one person possibly being the catalyst for how it spread into building. It's really hard for me to look at the NFL or look at a franchise and hold them accountable or something that could inevitably happen because you have nineteen year old twenty year old twenty. One year old hey, you got thirty year olds that dictate at age and sometimes their actions mirror and reflect that and it takes one moment doesn't have to be a bad moment. Didn't have to be the whole entire deal. It could just be out I'm with friends I'm over here not in my house and that leads to it. So it's a bigger concern in terms. Of How it's getting contracted now it's getting sprint does you can't control it you cannot control every single person. Yeah. This is the pure definition of dilemma when you have two bad choices imagine being active player as we all were one time and you had to sign onto a league protocol says groups of more than three of you players are prohibited outside of the facilities. Tough but you WANNA play and you want that check kid this that is a tough deal to live up to coming up Tom. Brady really lost his temper last night we'll tell you if the goat gets a pass for sideline antics. Welcome back to speak for US L., let's go back to Tom Brady go whose butt's loss last night to the bears but moment that people are talking about happened late in the third quarter, Brady was seat irate yelling offensive line on the sideline in the previous drive is offensive squad at a holding call an unnecessary roughness penalty well, Matt resulted in Tampa Having Fun Big Bro Sale. Yes. You given Tom Brady a path for his sideline anti some giving him a pass absolutely giving him the equity he's earned like your face right now scrunched over this. crunchy. Everybody wants to chip everyone wants to championship. Chips sometimes it gets chippy in the process of getting those chips. You want to learn about the burn guess what I became to go because I know what it takes, and if you're not going to sit there and take, it also doesn't mean I'm not gonNA give it. Let me give you the sequence. Ri- right before why Tom Brady was so irate. So in his feelings he was seeing screaming because they just put it. Why did they put couple of home calls unnecessary roughness call against the center to Center To rough office appeared. gave him a Pesek. Tom. Brady knows that the game was in the balance maybe before the players knew that the game was inbound forget the score he's talking about the tide he's talking about the entire season he's talking about their goal. So yeah if you go doll curse me at least have the equity of Tom Brady and at least let me know is for a reason and Tom Brady passable for those Tom Brady Sir you don't get no past. Let me tell you why Tom Brady was the goat in Tampa in New England set it in thirty s slipped into block in. Brady was the. New. England right. When? It's all said and done. But right now in Tampa Bay Tom, Brady is not the current goat Tom Brady don't bring that energy in your accomplishments from there and try to talk to me this same way the same form in the same fashion but also. Very very simple for me judge not lest you be judged. Condemn Day let. Doubts in. Verse. The problem is Tom. Did you doll custer self out when you forgot it was fourth down with the game on the line because that Aaron is actually more egregious. Air You mentioned this not went right before he he jonkers sideline holding call holding call offense of Pi Those are all actions because of another heartbeat my coach always told me don't let anything without a heartbeat beach you what that means. They don't let fatigue beat you don't let emotions. Don't let tire Nisar distract. Don't let anything without a heartbeat you all other penalties that was because of heartbeats Tom Brady forgetting it was fourth down. He just got beat by himself. So if Tom Brady is going to be perfect marcellus shirt, judge others condemn others cast all the stones in the world but. If, you go have airs yourself pleas judge not boom what we judge you. What else is a good take for that bad premise USTA at all. You gotTA W. Expect the right. Okay. So when the bronze ago goes to the Lakers and dog curses. Oh Lebron that goat it was for Cleveland in. Miami not here Oh still goat he's still. There about two yeah. Yeah. Okay. Jerry. Rice when you went to Oakland was to go out of bring up the please I played. Up. The dodgers raising it. I was like what they out here and he's still cursing you could see was to go. To Montana when he went to the chiefs you try also you just gotTa. Walk in your own humble me humble the. Where's the rest room like? No You Don't you want to stop everywhere you go top brady the reason I respected is because he knows what's expected of him. This is real. When he walks in the room let's just be like. I'm caught between reverence and also respect like where are you now versus where I know I hold you in my hair and for you to buy into Tom. Brady and his greatness is gonNA come with some ups and some downs. He doesn't Tom Brady them has doll Carson. His you know why? Because everyone knows he's holding himself to a standard that is so absurd that no other player and it fell history has released it. So his whipping processed may not happen in public display, but trust me to be that great. He knows how to beat himself up y'all has got to figure out how to be that great and I'm GonNa be all up in public coming up over Jimmy poses out the week with his thoughts on today shows being beaten us up. This mess. Four we let's bring in Oakland Jimmy. With it thoughts on today's show. Man Let me tell both little youngster south of I man Tom Brady somewhere between forty seven, seventy, four years old. He's a not like Christian Koi meaning he got drafted late and don't nobody really know how. I'm GonNa tell you what I do know. Tom, Brady's too old to be taken hits like he took last night. Okay Tom. Brady. Like Muhammad Ali windy fought Larry Holmes. Okay. I. Didn't like it. Wasn't a pretty sight. How to great wants to go out swing they go out on their small. I know how this is going in I. Just got one requests for Tom Brady. 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12/07/2020 - Hour 2 - Carson Wentz Hits the Bench

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12/07/2020 - Hour 2 - Carson Wentz Hits the Bench

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The undefeated untied unblemished pittsburgh. Steelers have their hands full with the washington football team tied at seventeen all with nine minutes left in the game. Alex smith just threw a touchdown pass and We got us a barn burner. Wow i'm i'm a little surprised because it was easy. Nothing was nothing when i first saw it. Yeah gore so. I just figured that they would go ahead. And you know do that thing. What a great story. We haven't really talked about alex smith yet but two years ago kris. He was devastated with that injury. Who who knew if we could even walk let alone play football. And he's out there absolute plan. You gotta be happy for him and and look regardless of their record or even his individual play. I mean he's actually buying you know okay. We'll be live right right. He's the fact that he's out there playing starting caliber. What i'm saying. Oh yeah thinking just numbers like that guy could easily rolled up into a ball. Chris and went into a corner. Said i'm good. I'm not quite football. No question so props to him But yeah and you know look honestly. The steelers need a loss i mean. I think they've had enough close games way year but they probably you know mike tomlin went off on him after last week's close win but it seems like he's not getting through and i agree with you. I mean i. I think that's down with new york than i am. But i mean when i think about degrade undefeated teams in the past. Yeah there were better than in the steelers team. You know the steelers team with even the best team in the league so but they need a loss to kinda wake themselves up man so we'll see if he comes this week or if he comes period but the pittsburgh steelers in a dogfight with the washington football team. Nobody saw that coming. Something else robbed no one saw coming was carson wince playing so poorly to the point. He's been benched. He was benched yesterday in their thirty to sixty loss. We talked about how great air rogers us they have. The ball could do anything. Oh gosh it was it was. It was hard to watch. it was horrible. the only way you can call it and carson wentz he was. He was terrible and by his own. Admission six for fifteen which is obviously horrible. Seventy nine yards passing and he was benched. Midway through the third quarter. The score was twenty three to three. And we're gonna have a nice civilized conversation about this. But i got a glow for a minute because someone on this radio show told me last year the year before war early this season. We walk into parker. All of that mess all would send a lifetime. And i told you rob parker sky was better than this. Do and say what you want about back but that didn't get bitched and won't get benched. Carson wentz has fallen off. The cliff is as simple as that. He's lost his job to jay lin her to replaced him in the third quarter and gave the team a boost. Some call it a comeback. I'm not gonna go that far. You brought him within twenty three sixteen. And then aaron jones broke a long-run seventy five yards seventy seven yards whenever it was to seal the deal but he looked better than wits. He wasn't spectacular. He was five for twelve himself. Hundred nine yards one touchdown one pick but he had to really really nice throws of thirty yards or more including a touchdown pass. He scrambled well in the pocket. He looked like he was in command of the offense in control. Era rob i. I'm not done with wins. I really am. I think he can whether it's in philly. I think it probably has to be somewhere else. But i if i was another team. Indianapolis colts with frank. Right who's great quarterback guy or you know some of the cargo that needs a quarterback sun team that needs a quarterback i would seriously look at carson wentz trying to train for him because he clearly has a physical talent and he needs to be rebuilt mentally though. And i you jump on me. When i say this but intangibles are so important to me into a quarterback in my view. And that's the one thing i think carson wentz lax i you humor. I just think it's easy for you to say that when someone not play well that they don't have intangibles well sports. I'm going on zepa saying the they call them selfish calling him. These people in the locker room okay. But last year last year they won the division when he had to play well down the strobel division. He did what he wanted. And even be dak prescott in a big game with the division on the line so just i. I'm not gonna give you today. You've never met to guide. You can't say whether or not it's going over. No we knows what he's doing. We told you my point this. Why can't buy into this whole idea of who has this. Who has intangibles. Who don't that's that's something you feel like you can do. I'm just telling you. I can't well i i Because you see you. Don't win. Nick foles over and then you all voles. And that's the sad thing about nick. Foles these any good but he that team. He gave that team of boots. Jalen hurts has intangibles intangibles. What do i mean intangibles. It means getting the locker room behind you getting no way of play always round. You gotta be at a play to of course but getting you. You have to have the intangibles. Do you know you think joe montana's the goat was joe montana. The greatest physical quarterback we've ever seen no but he good don't get me wrong physically but he had the it was something about. He was a leader guys believed in him. He was clutch. He had poise the locker room. They'd run through a wall for him. That's what i'm talking about. You didn't hear stories about guys not liking me. Selfish egotist ical. he's this he's that same bratty dan. that is what i think. That's the thing. I think they say is uncomfortable but in deaths vision history for you because it's easy to do it after the fact and what you're saying that no you didn't say that when they were fourteen in two or whatever they never relevent into eleven. Who didn't add is so back then but we're talking about then no way you would have sat there on any show anything. It said that he don't have intangibles and he not a leader of men and the eagles were rolled in and he was playing great. So i just think it's easy to say after the fact you can do whatever you want. I don't buy into that. He hasn't played well enough to keep his job. That's what the nfl stand for not for long. If you don't play well so he has to regroup it's not over. He's still young and maybe needs to be another spot in another situation. Or or maybe they changed coaches or they change some other stuff on the team if they think he's the guy order back because they gave him money. They believe that he was that guy. What religious to it'll be. So here's the deal going forward. What should be done. I mean next week. And i'm i'm with you in that. I'm not if you paid money. I'm not totally writing him off. Like i'm not saying okay. it's over. They got trade him or cut him. Or whatever what i am saying. No is this rob in this short term. They next week they need to start. Jalen hurts because to me if they go back to wince what are you saying your team. Your team is seen with fall apart. They see me play poorly they saw. You saw the boost. The team got with hurts. And i think you gotta showed. These guys looked to win. I'm playing the best ball player. The best guide. It gives us a chance to win at this point and while we don't really know what hurts is we saw little spark last yesterday. And i think you gotta start next week and see what he can do see. I think it's exact opposite to see if you could get carson wentz corrected. The kid jalen hurts. You got time to figure that out and you can do that with a new training camp next year practices all of the stuff but you have to really be able to pull the trigger on. What are you doing. And if this guy can't get better or get this turned around then you could cut bait at the end of the year and say you know what now it's not working yearly but my can be seen enough. No i've not again saying you cut but here here's where i disagree with you okay. Let's say you go back to. Because i we were in lockstep a week ago like i didn't think they should've went to hurts. But now the cat's out the bag and there's no repairing winces site just went for bisky and we remembered foles got hurt too. Yeah but they were gonna even. If he didn't get her chris they were gonna make a change. He hadn't played well. No that's that's fine. But my point is you have damaged winces psyche is damaged and it was damaged. Whatever damaged that early in the season. All of these poor games is clearly sat him of his confidence and so on and so forth. And now you just took it down another notch by benching. Him for hurts so starting. This week i mean that psyche is jacked up for a little while so go with hurt and if hers plays great then hey you go for the division crown and you keep hurts in there but my if you put whence back in a and you wanna see what he does over the next four games. What if he doesn't play well the not okay. he's not a game. Then you still don't know what hurts can do no but but you don't. The garoppolo was all that from practice. Yeah but but in the nfl you earn earn playing time to practice played released. Don't play that many games. I'm not saying you don't need game experience. But that's how you earn your your your opportunities in practice but my point is that if you have to make a decision on carson wentz if there's any if he gives you a glimmer of hope boy snaps out of it is a good two or three game strong together and you go okay The benching kind of like got him. We focused he played better the last three or four games. You know. there's something there as it poorly. i'm just saying but you gotta make a the semi need. That's what i would do. I think is the exact to me not playing him and then going into the off season and then and then letting him go somewhere else i just. I just think you need to be for sure. You're going to cut bait with the guy you pay that kind of money and that you put in that spot and you believed in you. Bet you gotta make sure. And i'd rather give up four games the meaningless season to make sure we're doing the right thing and and that's what i would do. Jalen hurts his time. We got plenty of time for him. I see the thing. i'm not saying. They have to cut bait with with. I'm not saying have to cut bay with at the end of the year because if hurts there and hers doesn't play. Well then you know. Okay carson's quarterback first of all the money secondly we got nobody to replace him and so we're going to have to make his his sight he's going to need to be rebuilt it anyway if he's going to stay in philly so you know i just you might as well see if you've got a good backup and if hurts like i said if he plays really well over these next several games they may be you. You've got your guy and so we'll see but it's it's gonna be interesting to see what they do and remember they're not out of it. I mean washington. The new york giants are certainly playing much better but that division is up for grabs. Believe it or not and we'll see is going to be interesting decision. You hear me you heard rob. What's your view ace. Seven seven ninety nine on fox. Eight hundred seven nine hundred sixty three sixty nine what should the eagles do with carson wentz next week and for the foreseeable future. And what should they do with jalen. Of course you're away with. 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It's called discovery plus and it gives you the greatest collection of real life entertainment known to man all from your favorite brands. Plus exclusive originals. That you won't find anywhere else. It's just awesome discovery plus you can start streaming in early in twenty twenty one in the united states of america. Only are a seventy seven ninety nine five before we get to the calls. The pittsburgh steelers rob look like they're about to go down there down. Twenty two seventeen to washington. Ben rothlisberger just threw an interception. And so what about two minutes left less than two minutes left one fifty nine left so they They are in trouble and about to fall out of parker's power rankings is my guess yes i would a worse to eleven team in the history of the nfl and they just lost to a team about to lose to a team. That don't even have a name. Oh sorry. I'll let you have that. After i poured it on about your boy winsor going to get his starting job back anyway as fox that's the question carson. Wentz or jalen hurts. Who would just this weekend or even long-term you're turning away in. Let's kick it off with jeremy in texas couple of fox sports radio was. I've got a pretty good so the eagles messed up and they'd messed up from the get-go too early. They were scared of back prescott contract so they paid him. And the the cowboys did the smart thing they franchise back. They should have done the same thing. They got to follow in dealing star next week. So are you with hurts. I mean we. We don't know what i can do. So i can't ask you if you go him long term but i think you're right like especially now it's obviously had a great year eleven and to use a route to be an mvp but since then he hadn't been that good mean are five and six couple of years ago in foles comes in and takes them to the playoffs last year. They won their last year but it was a eight a slowdown down. But if they wanted to be anybody's measuring stick let's now they be back. You remember deck had no styles. I'm just telling dacca's anybody's measuring stick. Either call his right. They should have just taken their time and they wouldn't be in this position. That's not how you do it in the nfl when you have a quarter like they do it. No that's you suck but you sign them up. You don't play doing the way you did a shoe. It only costs way. No real problem on your hands to twenty eight million that you don't believe in anymore but you don't wait when you believe in that guy you gotta pay them a germ man in georgia you on the couple of fox. Sports radio was up. Gentlemen tonight good. How are you perfect. Always good to talk to you. for me This was an issue in that shrine. Went up this should have been handled. Then it shouldn't have been dragged on. And i agree with the previous caller about salary. Having said that you know. He's got such a salary they can't cut him just can't afford to do that can't do that. You can't really move him so easy. But there's a couple of teams that i think should be Trying to play hard to get but they should call them. The first two would be the. Nfc was obvious that really could switch with that right now. I think jerry would do it. I don't care what. Jerry says to me about that going forward. I don't believe in. I think that would be mcnabb. Two point oh mine is obviously andy reid. Not being there. I think The easy answer for him as frank reich in the colts talk about a great office up. I'm sure the quarterback quarterback that was my next team. I gonna say the bears. Could you could get more from defense from them. As well as the broncos. I mean we all know right guys g and like the michael jordan in the nfl. He's a great player but he can't pick quarterback so he was easily probably go with with. What does he know he elway record with. Quarterbacks is embarrassing is unbelievable brightness. But i do agree to arrive like i say as much as i may be down wins this year i look. I don't think he's unsalvageable. He may be unsalvageable in philly. I mean maybe there's just too much bad blood there now and it's just a mess but i i wouldn't be afraid to take a chance on. I know that's a lot of money. But you know he's he's still got the physical tools. All right sean. In sacramento you on the couple of fox sports radio. What's up sean marlboro. From another man. My brothers behind the boys mayor. Real quick rob. You know. I love you man but how does it taste. That's right that oh baby what. You talking about sean. You better be careful about tastes. Hey chris bowers. You rolled out that all american music cold up soapbox just like rob do every time brady has a bad game and really took the high road past that. That's a real quick for me. Just one one of the team that might wanna think about the man. The niners look alike. They really need to ask a young guy behind that terrible opressive line and that ma- that contract with jimmy g. match up perfectly whatever web guy leftover so of indian pick them up a man come on down to the west coast healthy niners out one time. 'cause they sure do need it. I don't think i'm making that trade. Or if i'm philly right i mean i do. I want to take another guy. I'm not sure of for big money. So his on his long as winces. But it's unbelievable. How guy went to the super bowl last year. And now they don't want him between is unbelievable like the changes in such a short period of time. ultra they. yeah. I agree. I mean he's a he's an a super bowl last year and and chris maybe if he makes a throw or maybe it's a coach runs the football and he manages the game and they win it. You know what. I mean like seriously like real. Everybody isn't going to be aaron rodgers. And it doesn't take air rogers to win super. Now we know that you don't if you have defense and others and you have out this housing the ball to the team. I think they're holding into the standard that he's got to be an mvp caliber quarterback. But you'd like you say you got to the super bowl and we're ten points up with eight minutes left. He was that horrible right. So i'm with you on that one with your now. All right we got our mayor. Rod woodson coming out. We'll ask him questions and more but first fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live but let's bring in our super bowl champion. Nfl hall of famer got the best theme music on the show rod woods. What out man. How are you. What does the another mother is. Great to have your mess. And it's a sad day for you. I guess you're steelers got beat washington this good it. It's going to happen to probably only one on the team won the superbowl. Not the miami dolphins who said he to in you know we look at the new england patriots one hundred feet lawson super bowl so you really don't want to go rhino. If you wanna lose a game that feel that loss what goes like. And they didn't play football two weeks in a row they do over fifty times. They couldn't run the ball multiple droughts by the wide receivers. You know you're you're not gonna win games like that and that's football is too many good not all. The teams in the national league are good talented and they can win any given day. I was one of the big stink. Saying they would have worse own eleven of eleven and not my seen because there were two those too many of those games where they won rod and you looked and went. Wait a minute wait. Struggle against the cowboys. Baltimore had four turnovers. The kept look. I kept looking at it. Here get fan. Because you're you're bar of the low. You don't know what business i'm telling you. I wasn't buying them. Nobody was no put lebanon. No nobody was saying. Oh you're going to the super bowl. Nobody because they got the chiefs in the afc they got the chiefs. You play the cheese and even even losing to the washington football team. They still got the tiebreaker with the chief because of the change remember memory. Loss to the raiders. Conference game they lost to the washing. That's a non conference game so they still are up on both finish. You know fifteen and one. The steelers have the number one team. So they've got to make sure that they just play good football here about listen to the scoring thirty points a game almost right and the defense has been playing lights out football for the most part. So they're playing really good football and you don't have to look at. How many times have we saw the new england patriots win football games throughout the tenure of tom brady and we never thought they were great. They were just solid football team. That didn't make a lot of mistakes. Do you ever to the steelers now. The last two weeks even though the last week you know. I'm just like this too many drops and you can't have the ball in the air. Even though i love ben how good they are and how good he is. You can't throw the ball fifty some odd times even game not establish any money games especially late in year gotta establish type running game and keep the patrick away from him and the wash redskins did excuse me washington. Football team did a great job and then when he rushed for and they played coverage on the back end and they didn't give a lot of big plays and that's one of the main reasons they came up with the victory and they got the turnovers they had to ri- let's move to the eagles and obviously they ben carson wentz for jalen hurts. What if you're running that team. What do you do sunday or their next game whenever that is this week and going you know if you have a long-term answer i don't know if you do yet but you know. What do you do in the short term and long term at quarterback while i don't know about the long-term really don't but short term. You gotta get fire to your football team. And when jalen hurts came in he lit a fire under that teammates courts point. They moved the ball. He made some unscheduled plays with his speed. Which you know in the national football league. When quarterbacks can do that we've seen that across the board especially plate man it's hard to stop offenses and the same thing with legitimate. Among schedule played with his feet he makes be some good perot's they played good football with him being there. So you know. I think the short term you play jalen you give them that chance to to spark a little light into the football team and then you to make a decision after that season. You know what you're gonna do for your quarterback position. Where are you on kyla murray. What's happened to him. It was just three weeks ago. People were talking about Mvp he had the hail murray and know people were looking at him and saying and the last there now six and six and struggled and if you take away that hail mary at work and they really beat it'd be under five hundred. They've really be in abide. Have you seen anything different. Or how teams are playing them. They're not they're not letting him get out of the pocket and run with the football when he doesn't run with the football and scramble make those plays again with his feet like we're seeing in the national blessed with a trained in the national football league. It's tough to move the ball down the feeling consistent basis for those football teams. And that's really seen again you know everybody's realize man you gotta you gotta put pressure or murray. And you can't let him get out of the pocket you gotta spine with speed and they've been doing that and it's been working and like you said you know not for that one. Hell mary five hundred yeah. It's ugly since since that one play. What about what. About what about your. What about your jet jet. I grew up in new york right. I grew up as a jets fan. But i don't root form did terrible rod and what i wanna know. Well yeah you you got something to say about that. Play call right. It might wanna coach. Even how does that happen. I mean some people thought that was a sign that they were taking. No this is first of all. Listen i don't understand. Greg williams philosophy with that you know thirteen seconds ago on a game on a forty seven yard line. You know no timeouts why you wanna zero. I have no idea you're right. I mean it just you play coverage really should've have played covers that whole series because the pay everything was in their favor and i've never seen i've never seen it in my time that i can remember a coach. Going zero covers situation like that and then the corner on top of that doesn't know the situation cakes the double move. Let him catch the ball in front of you tackling. It's eleven seconds ago on the clock. They can't clock it. 'cause it's a twelve second rule national football league so you can't clock you can't get up you're running a get up there and talk it it just too many things. I don't understand that play I i think everybody in the world thought that greg williams is going to get fired and he did the only one real quick chris i wanna follow up was the was the larry zaka. Joe presario chick. Giants went herm edwards picked up the fumble and scored when all the giants had to do with kneel down and they ran a play instead it reminded me of of that and the coach in that situation got fired raw. The next day i mean. That's that's the reason we know her name. The player as you remember him as a player. Because everybody. I remember that play you know and you know so you just try to place mark as a coach and you try to put your players division and it was unfortunate that greg puts players in that position and got him be a cleveland. I when when obi j. went down. I think odell beckham junior is the best receiver under browns. But i did say. I thought baker would play better because i felt like he felt pressure to get the ball to obey j. j. Even you know yelling at him get me to bar or anything like that but his personality i just felt like his personality was stronger than bakers and baker felt you know was looking for you too much and now i feel like he's just out there playing and he's been much better. Do you think there's any credence to that theory. No i mean first of all listen. Chubb came back right back their running game with just two minutes it. It's best in the national football league and listen baker extremely well. Yesterday he threw the ball. Well play action pass. He you know he. He bombed the open guys he. He may catchable ball with receivers throughout the whole game. But i'm not gonna sit there and say that baker mayfield is the reason There wasn't any football. They're gonna bugging get because they can run the football and their defense their front four get pressure on the quarterback and not bringing a lot of other blitzes in the national football league. You know we. We've seen that when you can get pressure at your front four and play coverage on the back in it bodes well for your defense and now baker has played extremely well but they need that running game if they don't have running game and they're gonna put all that pressure baker mayfield. I just can't say that he's going to be that guy consistently win those big game because he hasn't shown getting his career has he played well this year yes but it's inconsistent shirt still so until he can do that on a consistent basis. I'm still my judgment is still out. How good he can be because he does have a running game not fair but throwing and delivered a ball to play makers and if he can do that and we of ob. Jay can duh duh. Can't come back. And if he does come back not just more weapons for him and he just has to be able to distribute the football to all his weapons and let them go make plays all right. That's our hall of famer rod. Thank you appreciate it man. Good care brother. I see it. It's the hottest radio game show in the country. Sources say next are company fox. Sports radio fox. Sports radio has the best sports. Talk lineup in the nation and catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. r. to listen live you know what alexa does alexa makes our lives better by keeping us connected to what we care about lake. When you realize you haven't talked to your mom in a few days all you have to say is alexa call mom or when you need a reminder to drink water just say alexa. 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Let's get started story number. One marshawn lynch revealed in a reason interview with peyton manning that he used to smoke a gram of marijuana not a lot a grand marijuana before every game when he played the seahawks. Robin sources. good. I will say just given the nature and the culture and every race except for me just saying i'm gonna say the rob of sorry. That is so racist racist. I think is true. You sit on the throne. Who will you take. Shots a hannie. It was not weedy was shot. We'd hung rats. Why are you surprised. I'm surprised marshawn. i mean you know. They say that that takes away the pain but he did eat skittles during games. So that tells the story number. Two padre star star. Tommy fan is suing the sandiego diego's strip club where he was stabbed back in october claiming it was their fault that he suffered catastrophic injuries at their venue. Why wow chris. I'm sources good. Gosh i'm gonna say oss. I'll say trudell. Say basically that they let the guy get in there with a knife and they should have had a metal detector and he wouldn't have been stabbed surprise russell club he was i was there might be patted down. I wanna make sure nobody nobody will. And what else do you bet you get fired till fast laurie. My sources say rob wanted nothing. Unlv starting quarterback. Max gilliam had issue an apology after he was filmed eating sushi off a nude model on reality tv. Show there recently aired. Rob parker yup sources. Good or bad. That sounds like a good meal. The me too yes. I'll say that's true a woman that's gotta be cost. What kind of show was the on where they had new models. He was eating off true. There you go and it might be. Kids don't play 'em music people story number four my sources say former. Nfl linebacker von says burfoot was arrested after he allegedly attacked security guard at a casino in vegas. 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Best of The Herd for Apr 09, 2020

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

43:59 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd for Apr 09, 2020

"Hi, there I'm Zach BRAFF DONALD FACE ON. We're real life best friends. We met playing fake life. Best Friends. Turk and J D on the Sitcom scrubs twenty years later we to read watch the series one episode at a time and put our memories into a podcast. You can listen to it home. We're going to get all our special guests. Friends like Sarah Chalk. John C McGinley Neil Flynn Judy Reyes. Show Creator Bill. Lawrence Editors. And, even prompt masters would tell us about what inspired the series, and how we became a family, you can to the podcast fake doctors, real friends with Zach and Donald on the iheartradio, APP apple podcasts and wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening to the best of heard podcast be sure to catch US live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio NFS ONE. Find your local station for the hurt at Fox sports radio DOT COM, or stream it live every day on the iheartradio. APP by searching heard. This is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on Fox sports radio. Oh here. We go on a wet. Soggy Day Los Angeles. This is the heard. Wherever, you may be and however you may be listening iheartradio. Fox Sports Radio and F S one joy. Taylor never looked better joining me on the show this morning. It's so nice to have joy in living color now on television. And yeah, I still need to haircut. Let's not get into it. Joy looks fantastic, and we are ready to roll one hour from now. Coach k Mike Shoshefsky. I'm excited to talk to him about things. Number one is coach three. Olympic teams. He also early in his career, coached against Michael Jordan and Duke wasn't very good back then they had popped. Right so we got some Michael Jordan talk about with him some Lebron to talk about with him. He is ready to one college coach. That's been able to bridge the NBA college spectrum, and he's done very well with both respected by both players coaches at both levels so joy. How are you this morning on? A really really wet were supposed to get great weather in L. A. for the next ten days after this, but it just I'll tell you this. The droughts over in California. Officially I'm doing good, but it's actually a good thing that we have some rain. We're supposed to be inside anyway, so no incentive to go anywhere. This is a very big week in California to stay home so I'm I'm happy for the rain. Okay, here's the story. I want to lead my show with today to. Had Him on the show couple of days ago, Alabama quarterback roll tide I. Like Him. He's my number one quarterback although I do think there's an injury concern, but I would draft him. Still have said that, so Mike Lombardi's a buddy of mine. Mike works at the ringer used to be at Fox. Sports used to work for the Patriots used to run the browns. He has two teams telling him something bad about two teams I've talked to have them. They won't them on. Not just the hip on the multitude of injuries like the risk far outweighs the reward all right. Let me address that I. Have I tell my kids this all the time. What teams who's leading the criticism against you? If Bob Costas rip me or Joe Buck, it would hurt if a blogger does it. I couldn't care. Who are the two teams. A, third of this league is poorly run. Who are the teams? What was New England at told him hoping to poison the waters, and he drops in the draft out of New England, or at least in an area where New England could draft him in the fifteen sixteen seventeen spot. What if it's the JAGS? They've got nine the chargers. If the chargers are on the fence and we, we tell everybody we flunked are and. And it gets out there. Maybe they and we be nine. A lot of people want to but they're in the twenty S, and they can't get him, but if he drops to twelve and thirteen New England gives you four picks goes up and gets him I. Don't know who it is I trust Mike I like Mike I. Am not in any way indicting Mike I'm saying I. Don't know who the teams are. Thirty percent of the teams in this league what they're doing their coaches don't know what they're doing. They're GM's are not very good. They live on scouting assignments. How do I know their team? Doctors or any good I would guess the Patriots team doctors and the Ravens team. Doctors are probably better than the bottom third of the League in Detroit through the year, Cincinnati wouldn't. You aren't there more great hospitals and medical professionals new. York California Massachusetts Cleveland got the Cleveland Clinic. I Bet Brown have great medical people. It's a hotbed for great. Medical personnel in the country so I who sang this? That's the first point I have no idea. Secondly to miss four games. In two years. In the SEC. Easily the most physical football conference in College football let's be honest. Big Twelve PAC twelve, those are pillow fights ACC outside of clemson pillow fights. He missed. Four Games in two years and by the way, is that injury prone? Because two teams are saying injury prone. Is that injury prone? Because I know he plays well when he's hurt. I saw him throw for four hundred and eighteen yards and four touchdowns against Lsu the best college football tea perhaps of all time when he was hurt. We know NFL? Guys play when they're hurt. Let me ask you. He's at one major injury and one injury season from high school to college one and in that injury riddled season miss four games out of thirteen. Is that injury prone? Aaron Rodgers collarbone surgeries is Aaron. Rodgers injury prone. Big Ben last decade. He has started a full season. Three times in ten years is big Ben Injury prone, didn't they? Just sign him to an extension? An old to is not. Well what about to Shawn Watson? Do you know why De'andre hope is no longer Houston because they're clearing cap space because they're gonNA, pay Deshaun, Watson two hundred and fifty million dollars. He torn as he tore his knee up in college. He's torn it up in the NFL. He couldn't play last year couldn't take a plane for a game because kidney was all messed up. is injury prone doesn't seem to deter the Houston Texans. They're going to pay him. Two hundred and fifty million dollars by the way Carson Wentz has missed eight games in four years he's missed entire playoff runs. They signed him to a long term deal. My point is everybody's hurting this league playing quarterback out Russell, Wilson and Tom Brady. Let me ask you this Patrick Mahomes. He's the greatest player in the League right. Stay with me if you think to. Is Injury prone. Stay with me on this. In College Patrick Mahomes had wrist surgery. Bet You didn't know that he got knocked out of a game. Concussion to whenever did all? He played eight games one year because of an AC joint issue in two thousand sixteen. Tuner had that in college I can make the argument knocked out of Game Kale Wrist Surgery AC joint issue. He was more injury prone. Then to in College Oh by the way Patrick goes to the NFL. He had an ankle injury last year, and then he missed a bunch of games because he had a dislocated kneecap missed at least a couple. So I got five injuries with Patrick Mahomes, and he's GonNa, make three hundred and fifty million dollars. Aaron Rodgers. Big Ben to Shawn Watson Carson Wentz Patrick Mahomes. Are they injury prone? Other teams don't think so. To Shawn's GonNa get paid Patrick's GonNa get paid Carson Wentz. Did get paid big. Ben Got paid again and just got paid a year ago and all the juries. Number three. Thanks to a new collective bargaining agreement. Sort if you draft him in the only last four years. Arizona draft on a quarterback. They bailed on it. Twelve months later, they drafted another quarterback. We're all sitting here today. Going back kind of like the direction they're going. Let's say you draft tour? He lasts four years in Miami. That's redrafting Miami. Four Years Brian Flora's builds that defense up and the lineup for years, and he averages thirteen games a year. He misses three games, but he's good enough. To win nine nine of the thirteen games. He's not worth it. You'll give contract. He's not worth that rookie contract in the rebuild the merchandise. He sells the Games he wins. The energy provides. The value to the organization. This is not fifteen years ago when you give Jamarcus Russell a contract, and if he whiffs, you're done. So I got a WHO's who says they flunked him. I was in the chargers war room two years ago, they took a player off their board. Because of injuries, he got drafted by a team that had recently won a super bowl. Translation. What's your board? Say Even chargers are well run. The team that had it well run. Disagreement opinions disagreements. A lot of people didn't think LAVAR IS GONNA. Work Bar works disagreements. The second part is what the Hell's injury. Prone mean is homes. Injury is Aaron. Rodgers is Big Ben Carson Wentz is John Y. And the third thing is. Even if he is still do it. The kid is drew brees accurate, unbelievable leader, the best most accurate thrower, the football intangible sees the field in. It's not punitive. If he's heard after four years, it's not just listen. You'll watch them in camp. If by the end of the year to year like I don't know how long it's GonNa last, but we love him traffic on a quarterback. And he doesn't have to play this year. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Cherise Healthy Watch Watch watch, and if you know in that year I don't know. They have thirteen draft picks. Thirteen solve the rest of the issues for the team. Continue to culture. They're going to win game when five of their last nine, but I don't buy this with two. I don't know who said it. I see injured quarterbacks. Winning Super Bowls all over this league. And it's not punitive if you draft him and he does get hurt i. just think he's too good to say no to be sure to catch live. Editions of the Heard Weekdays at noon, eastern nine am Pacific on Fox sports radio s one and the iheartradio. App I've heard Rick Bucur for one is said he doesn't. He's not sure Laurent wants to come back. This is not a good setup for him older body. He's got no chance to get through. The Clippers I disagree I think he really wants to get through it. Lebron's playing a different game than everybody else. K., everybody else's competing against. Themselves, Lebron, competing against Michael Jordan. Mike, Lebron standards are much higher than everybody else in the League. Nobody else in this league is in the. Could he be the best player of all time? Nobody else's close. Mean Anthony Davis How many playoff series does he have in seven years? He's won one. And he's the second best player in the NBA. Third maybe behind Janas has to playoff. Series wins. It's Lebron here. Next and it's just the Grand Canyon between even the next best players. Will Lebron's going to be sitting home here in his seventeenth year and guess what starting in about a week. Michael Jordan. Ten part documentary. Twenty year olds never saw Michael Play live. EITHER DID THIRTY YEAR OLDS I. I did, and that's why I. Say Michael The best player ever. But a lot of twenty year old lived in the tunnel of Lebron only and they're Lebron fans. Don't Kid Yourself? Players like Michael Delayed Koby Bryant and Lebron are absurdly competitive. Michael was petty during his hall of fame speech. Kobe wouldn't leave the gym. If he lost the game of Horse, he would play you until he beat you and we know Lebron Watches social media he reacts very quickly. He likes his attention and I like Lebron. Lebron's going to be sitting at home seventeenth year. Best Player. He's ever had on a team in his peak. Ad Roster is old. It's not getting better. It's a week draft, crappy, free agency class, and the caps coming down. They can't afford anybody else and don't have anybody on that roster. Not Name Lebron. Radi, anybody else wants I like Koussa. He's not special. This is the year. This is the year. But. It's also in terms of branding. The twenty year olds are going to watch this ten part series, and those are Lebron guys and guess what every talk show host. Joy Me the Stephen as the SCALLOPS, the Shannon's the whit locks the neck writes. The God leaves are all going to be like man I forgot. He's the greatest ever. And Lebron will be sitting home and watching that as a hyper competitive athlete. Don't kid yourself. Lebron wants to come back. Badly. It's one thing to have the MJ documentary on and you're playing and dropping thirty two, and it's another to be watching it, and then you turn on the sports networks. What you watch all the time. We all know that and they're all like. That debate was stupid and Jay is clearly so much better. Even make right talked about this the other danner show. We didn't get to see Lebron in the playoffs last year. If they don't have a playoffs this year, we won't get to see it, and then you're in the year eighteen and while I've never been in the business of doubting Lebron then you are one tweaks groin. From what Lebron not being in the playoffs again and then wait. Wait was the last Great Lebron. Playoff moments a fifty one point game one, and then we never see him in the post season again like if you miss this postseason that door start so. And I think the NBA is so tied still to Lebron it's very important. The year gets in in some way shape or form by the way Lebron said this four years ago. Quote my bone avaition. My motivation is the ghost I'm chasing. Lebron told sports illustrated Lee Jenkins. The ghost played in Chicago. We'll guess guess what the ghost is coming back. For Ten. As the bronze sits and watches, the shows talk about him in the world, does him. These guys are also competitive. It's why they're great. It's why Kobe was great. Jay was great. It's why jeeter was great they are. They're petty Tom. Brady texting his dad, we got his phone record. Yeah, he's over the years. I've got about two years to be paid. Be the greatest. That's who they are great. Don't don't think wants to sit and watch on TV the shows and in the MJ series in the Pri- the, last great year to win a championship for him 'cause eight. He's not getting younger and healthier. This laker rosters older, not a lot of tradable parts, the caps coming down to crappy draft and a bad free agent class. This is what he's got win with this. Is it be sure to catch live editions? The heard weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific Lebron James says he won't have any closure. If the NBA season is canceled, I do think the NBA is strong enough and star-driven enough it can overcome. I Miss Season I do I think baseball is a sport of habit? And if we go eighteen months with no baseball that is, that is irreparable, perhaps for the next half decade NBA star driven. If they missed a season, you got Katie next year. You Got Lebron. Got Steph coming back? Yacht Klay Coming back the Brooklyn Story the Warriors Story I think you'll be fine. Zaylon story he's getting better and you've got some really fun. Young teams, Denver and Dallas are young. They're excellent. They're getting better. Milwaukee in the Celtics are young and getting better so I think the NBA can overcome it. I do believe for Lebron and I. Don't mean to be an alarmist, but I think this year is vital. There's five reasons why I think this is potentially the last year. Lebron can win a title number one. He Ain't getting younger number. Two Anthony Davis has had lots of injuries. He's fairly brittle. visit healthy with this rest as he's ever going to be. A D. has never at this point in any NBA season been this rested and ready to go number three. The Lakers roster is the second oldest in the NBA. Number Four. It's a bad draft in a bad free agency class. There's no help on the horizon and number five the caps going down because revenues. We're going down so even if you attracted somebody. The Lakers ownership does not wanna pay a big burden on the salary cap, so I think this is the also I think Golden State's going to be significantly better next. Next year steps back Claes back in a lottery pick and I think the clippers because I think we've all worried about the clippers chemistry a little bit. This year will if they'd have another year to work on the chemistry. The clippers would be a better basketball team next year, so I think this is the year for Lebron. I think he wants to get back. To get back I the NBA needs to get back. I'm more positive than negative on that and I'm just a basketball fan I grew up. I grew up a huge college and pro basketball fan than I covered. 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There's one coach in my lifetime who has been able to cross the bridge college to pro back to college, and it's Mike Szumowski forty years at Duke Five National Championships only coach to lead three team. USA's to three consecutive consecutive. Olympic, gold medals, and he is just interviewed Dr Anthony Fauci. American, he seventy nine years old. And first of all verbally physically he is so dynamic and robust and coach. First of all thanks, you recently interviewed him. How did you find him to be? He, he was first of all. Thanks for having me on as always you I love. I love your perspective. Don't agreed with all of them. I love that you know a lot of them. Don't you know I won't bring up the once? I don't but It was such an honor first of all happening on my show and spending thirty minutes with them. You know what he is. He's genuine. He's inspiring. And how often on your show have you been able? To talk to somebody who is the? Very best at what they do, he is the most instinctive and best person. In in this world, and especially in at least in our country that we know as far as infectious diseases are concerned, and so he's inspiring when he talks and. he was just so darn genuine. I called him. America's said your America's Point Guard. He was the point guard in high school. And just so January January. Um, you have as much as any coach in my life and I'm a big believer in what I'm about to say. People that succeed in their sixties and seventies do so by evolving rigidity rigidity punctures even the smartest people and I can name names I'm not going to, but you have spanned four and five decades. Because you're thinking person you've evolved. And, it's funny. When you got into this business, there was a sports section, and that was it letter to the editor. Now there's talk radio. There's social media. It is putatively punishing. It is harsh. It is unforgiving. I WANNA. Ask You. How do you deal with it? What do you tell your players now as you expand so many decades about the criticism from strangers to us? I don't know if I could handle it coach at seventeen years old I don't think I could handle it. Why how do you? How do you discuss that the site psychological factor that has changed in your lifetime coaching. Well you hit on one thing right away. Is that an order for a leader to put a message across to the people? He has an honor to lead. He has he or she have to handle it the right way so I do. you know I it? It's a waste of time to get into arguments and not look. We have a lot of great things said about us, and then we have a lot of questionable things, said and and what I tell my players is this is how I handle it. I listened to the people who are knowledgeable and sometimes they're critical and you. You should always have an ear open to listen. You know because that's how you can become adapted for them. I try to tell them especially late in the season we. We had a great year, but we have two weeks where we weren't that good. And during that time I talk to him about like look only listened to one voice. Listen to my voice and I will tell you the truth you know. Don't let somebody else. Tell you. Who you are. You know you know who you are, and I'll help you I know who you are Sa- player, and it's a college student. Listen to me since our staff and really I said going into your as you become adults, you will want to circle of people around you and not a big circle of people that you will want to listen to. You know that will tell you the truth that you don't have. That circle should be a small one and so we talked about that and and we have a great social media. We have the best one to college sports, and so we they're out there to. We like them to be out there, but we like to be out there under our umbrella. A lot of people may just think you go out and just okay I'm GONNA. Go get the best players I. Don't believe you do that. Mark Mark Fields, a friend of mine. It's all about fit. So when I first saw Zion on instagram and stuff. I thought he was really raw. I didn't see much beyond dunking when I fell in love with him, it was his personality and I have a belief. The greatest players Magic Kobe Michael. Zion can be this. It's not just their game. It's their mind. They have to be strong diligent forest. When was the first time you met with Zion? Who I just love the kid? What was the first time you noticed? It was personality beyond performance. Yeah right away when we visited with him at home and in a school. When we're recruiting them, you could tell one he. He's. You know a big thing. Not that he doesn't allow stuff, he really loves his mother. That's a key thing you know like that. You have the ability to love somebody who you respect to his brought. You ought to his. taught you and he had this engaging personality. He's really smart. You know all the guys that you mentioned. You're talking about people who are not just smart off the court and Preparation and whatever they are. Smart in the moment. That action is happening. I've talked I had an interview about a month now three weeks ago. where I talked about Kobe and Lebron you know coaching them on the Olympic team and they were der der brilliant at the moment. It's happening and. That's unusual. You know I can be I. can be smart at a time out and whatever, but when you have somebody who is playing the game, and it's not just smart about his or her play. But the play of unit. Boy You have something. That's the treasure. All those had it, and so I, said the other thing one other thing I don't know if I'm not talking to. We got nothing but time. the other thing colonists that. Great players want to be coached. Like you just mentioned about who they listen to. They listen to their coach. Date they want to be coached. They want to be coached hard. They want to be told the truth now. They don't necessarily want to be put have that put out to the world? I think they're private in how you do it, but they want. They want it i. My, my best players that do have wanted it, and then for eleven years I coached USA team. Those guys wanted there in not that I did a great job of coaching, but I developed really good relationships with them and the. Does are unique. That's a talent. Yes, when people start comparing people who was the greatest and all that a lot of times they they don't get into the area that we're talking about the influence of being able to make your teammates better at the moment it is happening is huge is just huge. All the guys you mentioned have it I think scientists. Yeah! You know you. You coached not only and you really the only coach. That has done this I. Think Behind deserves credit to and you guys. Are you know very different people and I love you both, but you've. You've bridged that gap between collar. I'm pro and you also by the way or an assessment on the ninety two Dream Team so you saw four different Dream Team's summer. Probably better defensively, some more dynamic offensively I want to go back to Michael Jordan. Who's going to have a ten part Docu memory on former employer ESPN? Do you remember because I'm sure you recruited him? Do you remember the first time you saw Michael? Jordan play in high school. Recruit on, he was a highly. He wasn't you know bus? Peterson was the player the state player of the year. That year in North Carolina and two of them at become great great friends imposes terrific, but we never recruited them because. You know he committed to to north. Carolina I got a chance to see him where he was beaten, are but. Right because you're early Michael with with you. You had not developed the juggernaut yet at Duke. So as you were building that Mike here was this young wiry relentless player. Did you immediately know what you saw Carolina Oboe? This is different. Yeah, know in the forty years I've had yonder coach at Duke and in the ACC. To me that the two players the two opponents that I think were the were the most talented were Michael and len bias and they were they were they had the it. Yeah whatever that means they had and It's tragic that we never got to see land show that with the Boston Celtics. But. We did. Obviously we get a chance to see it with with Michael. You also had one of the great players. I I covered him because I covered UNLV for years. Christian Leitner is such a psychotic classic. I mean when we think of great players. He was this tall unique personality polarizing in college. I can remember him playing shack and getting the best of him. He's interesting. So I Was Coach to know he's the best. He was the biggest believer he would take a bullet for me. is. One of those guys that could do it. At the moment it was happening and make teammates better. He was like a point center and You Know Colin in the history of college basketball. He has to go down as one of the top five years stabber yes. I've ever seen because I. didn't see Walton and I didn't see I didn't see Kareem or Walton I can. And if you in college where we're for four years, and we're able to go to the NC double A. Tournament each year, you could play a maximum of twenty four games. You have to win six to win. The tournament. Christians record in the NCWA tournament was twenty one into. Twenty one into. You know like T was. Houston Alien Railway he You know. It didn't translate as much into the pro game. He was the he was a good player, but college wise. I've coached a bigger winner. than than Christian late now he's the best. Player ever play Duke Coach K. further record. You did not recruit. Michael I imagine you didn't recruit Lebron because he was going to the pros, right? Do you remember though the first practice you ever had with Lebron with a dream, team? Do you remember that practice while we had it? Actually you know the one time. When we took over, we lost in two thousand six in the world championship, so I got a chance to see him. When he was eighteen or nineteen and You know here as a player. He did not know yet. That, he was a smart. Or that he had the leadership voice that he has displayed as he's matured. What I did notice. This is an interesting thing. Is I did notice how smart he was. You know these guys with Poi- cards all the time and wanted to times in Japan and not for you know they're just playing and I. I watched them play China. Get get to know them and I don't know what game they were playing, but there are a lot of them at the table in. Lebron Marcus straight at the table. He knew what everybody had. He knew whatever and I said. This kid is really smart, I mean he and he's got a personality, and as we then when he joined again in two thousand, seven to qualify for the two thousand eight Olympics and Kobe. Enjoying, the team I had really the too smart to of the smartest players ever play any sport and they They meshed that. Thank goodness, God. Bless both of them they. They they? They made each other better. You know. I had a former accountant to us to say this, he said. He had a lot of successful clients, and he said They never talk about failure. That's baked into success you you fail because you take chances aggressively. They do talk occasionally about regret and I look at you. And I think to myself oh you. You could have had a Laker job of the late Kobe Bryant with somebody that you know I. Think probably tried to recruit you once or twice to the NBA. Have you ever had a night that you thought you watching the NBA and you're thinking? Maybe I should have given it a run. You know I haven't and I think coaching eleven years the US team. A, I I probably would have had it in this time, and if I was a college coach. With the success I had when I was in my weight forties and early fifties now. I think I'd probably end up. Being an NBA coach colleges becomes. I, CRAZY It's it's it's crazy and you don't have. You can't develop the relationships that used to. You know here's here's a crazy. My Luck, which has always been very very good. In that two times that I seriously thought about. the NBA was in nineteen ninety Dave Gavitt just took over the Celtics and he's wanted. Visionaries wanted a great great man and a good friend. He offered me the Celtics job. And I went up actually met with read our back and and Dave and and I turned it down in the next two years. We want our first two. National. Championships the quaker thing into all five. I was close to doing it and I turned it down in a few months later, Jerry Colangelo. Offered me. The chance to be the US coach so. I think I might have regretted because those were the two iconic. Franchises for the two franchises says I grew up as a player and A. Young coach I said calmly macro the celtics. The Lakers are you kidding me, but because those things happen and I got a chance to coach these great players on the US team. I've not what back and I have loved coaching Duke you know. Damn I you know spend. It's good for me Oh. No, it's you know I used to do is I covered a and I love talk. Very no one of the things I. always remember and I. Don't know if I've told you this. So Tarkwa. A. Contradiction sometimes, there were some times he was so darn honest then he was also kind of a fun. Be Esser, but the thing I loved about Tar. You came and said one time I covered you the final Foreign Denver! And you came in and said the thing that impresses me about UNLV and Tareq. He go. You said I have never seen in my career a team. Play this hard. You don't I. Don't know if you know this. Yeah Jerry. Bad Yes. It's true. Jerry Jerry Arcane Ian. I've never seen him happier. I've never seen him. Smile more it it literally. that. Was the kindest know coaches can be tough on each other, and they don't WanNa compliment and recruiting. I go back and I remember thinking how big it was of you to say that did. Did he ever share you? How much that meant to him? Yeah, you know. We actually became good friends and. Danny, you know his. He wrote a book. You know rebel with a cause and. And asked me to do the forward and I said I'd be the an honor, so I did the forward to that book and People do not understand just how good a coach that you watch! You know he had immense talent okay. And it's not easy to get that level of talent to play that hard and unselfishly and yet times you can get them to play on selfishly offensively. They played unselfishly. Be Offensive of way. Yes, and that's what made them great and we had a hell of a team and ninety two. We got this new guy named Grant Hill. Yes, I remember. They weren't as The talent difference was not I mean we were pretty talented, too. So that's that wasn't as big an upset people would. Say but they. What great basketball during that time it was. It's incredible and I wrote about that. My first book that people just don't understand that grant hill was new, and you got better as the season I think grant was a freshman, so you've got grabher with Grant Hill. Who at the time I mean if people would forget this at the time, Grant Hill was considered the next great American basketball prodigy. And you know in his first five years in the pros. He put up numbers in the top five ten in the history of the NBA. And then he got injured and but he was that good, and he was sorry. Answer at least to. not negating Stacey Augmon, but not letting him be Stacey Augmon you know, and and and We never had that the year before we were just steamrolled. They were so damn good. Yeah, by the way. Do you get frustrated at all? Final Question Mike Shefty. I've always considered you not only a basketball coach, but a a mentor and A. A Voice of your sports and the face of your sport. There's a certain burden of responsibility with that. You perhaps don't see it as a burden, but it's a big mantle to carry some college. Coaches have come out on this virus and I just roll my eyes at it. Brian Kelly has been very very smart. Are you ever get disappointed? Sometimes with the parochialism of some college coaches and the messages they send. Yeah and I think you do the same in your profession. Yeah, there, what what it is! You, know we don't have. One or two failures during my time as a coach, and it won't be corrected before I retire is that we do not have a leader for college basketball? You know like it's not run. It's run by committee and Coaches Association and there was a commissioner for College basketball in an office and everything like that 'cause it's a billion dollar business I think I think we would come out more with one voice, and as a result sometimes you know sometimes people make comments like it's like right after a game and for social issues and things like that, and then they. They didn't really mean all. Right and I think we would be. Yeah it is. It's disappointing that we don't come out with a more unified voice. And what is. Con! As a college coach, we represent. The college player. Not The college coach and we should be the voice. Of the college player in the environment that that college player is in now, not ten years ago or twenty and we should help. Streamline the changes that are needed to help the college player. And we don't. We don't do that. There's no way we do that. And that's a failing that. That's a that's why we're. You know we're. We're in the Dark Ages in some of the some of these things and I'm saying that the NC double a. came out with a great decision to hold all the sports and all that. But really how we admit you know how we run this thing, it's not. It's not it's not good. and. It's not good now how we're doing the virus look. With the doctor filed she. Right right. To the scientists? Yeah, yeah, and it's to me. It's an amazing thing. That All these press conferences that are run, that's that's the those are the only people I want to hear from, and he's our North Star. He is and Let's just let's do the right thing that you know. This is never been done before they're learning to. And they're going up and saying this is what we're learning. Don't do this. This other stuff. Okay and then give us a chance to learn about way. You know if this keeps going. What's test, so we can learn some more so when it. It'll probably come back at sometime in some form, and we can kick the hell out of it right. We can beat it. We can beat it before a jump ball. Right now, we. We can't beat it like that, and that's why the. Health healthcare care provider. In about forty five minutes I'm going to have the honor to speak to our North Carolina nurses. Association and and. Are you kidding me. These are heroes. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I'm I was in the military I went to West Point. It's never in combat. These people even people in combat in the military. They go in there in the frontlines God. Bless them for Dylan that then they come back to base camp and they get. Redo not completely rejuvenated, but then they go out again and the healthcare providers. There on the front lines and they they can't go home. There's fear all the time that they're going to affect their own family. This is never been done before. It's never happened. These people are amazing, just amazing and. Whatever we can do to help them, and then what's that? What this happen again, right? Yeah, let's not let's be prepared and not. What this happen again anyway. I. Get so emotional talking about it and talking about with these people because I feel. Right I heard our attorney general. Something About. You know maybe we can get back, so people won't have to be home and hiding under their beds. Hey, listen. Man We're not hiding under our beds. We're doing what the hell. We're supposed to be doing right, don't you know? What are we talking about? When people say stuff, Colin Brewer I if I'm. Trump me in the face. If that's wrong, but we shouldn't say stuff like that. Well I mean social distancing works the states that a BS. It's it's Washington state. California I live in a state very smart and very progressive. We jumped on an early and we have not had the hospital surge so i. don't know your governor, but. When he talks. Right like he's great, yes, like He. He had he had the courage to do this. You know forget about party lines anyway. I'm talking too much, but. 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The Ocho: Cowboys/Eagles Preview with Bleeding Green Nation

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The Ocho: Cowboys/Eagles Preview with Bleeding Green Nation

"From labra doodles to grow nuts the world of hybrid so today businesses are taking a smarter hybrid cloud approach using the tools platform and expertise of ibm. The world is going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud. Welcome to another episode of the ocho presented in partnership as as nations blogging. The boys dot com are joe enemy of course from bb for mightier at your humble host onto the ocho. It is thursday december. Twenty four th two thousand and twenty. We hope all is well wherever you are. We hope you're happy safe healthy and that you were having a very merry christmas eve. You know this. This time of year is obviously very special and this year is obviously been very difficult to end. I know that we've said this a lot. I talked about this in the final moments of our wednesday livestream. That we do. We do a livestream every wednesday night on the blog on the boys youtube channel and we are just so grateful for you at blog on. The boys You know we all we all love the dallas cowboys and we all are rooting for the dallas cowboys. And we all want to see the dallas cowboys have success and obviously the season has been challenging and this year it's been challenging but i know i've said this before in the coolest thing to me in the world that we all all of us you me however you're listening wherever you're listening whoever you're listening with the we get to share this and then we talk about this and we get to kind of bounce ideas back and forth off of one another and and that this thing that unites the dallas cowboys that you know we it makes us a community it makes us a family and that feeling is just a little bit more prominent around the holidays so we hope that you have a very merry christmas and i don't know what your plans today. I don't know how you're listening. Like i said but we just we were so grateful for you and we love you and we hope that we have you know we have some more fun times in store when it comes to the cowboys. And obviously that starts this week with the philadelphia. Eagles cowboys eagles. There's always a lot of fun. In the dame's they've played at eighteen t. Stadium have generally been exciting. The very least or entertaining to some degree. And so i really thought it would would would serve us well to kind of reflect on that with somebody who knows the rivalry from a different perspective. The opposing perspective Brandon lee garden is the me of espionage philadelphia eagles cyber leading green nation. Bgn is a great resource for eagles. Fans and really. It's a lot of fun if the eagles lose to go kind of check their comments and things like that and brandon is great if you do listen to me on the espionage. Nfl show by the way. It is thursday which means we have a new episode of the look ahead out myself and rob stats carreira. Beal does a show with stats. Actually himself on tuesdays called the i'd cast and it's great production can recommend it enough If you do subscribe to that feed you may have heard brandon. i the friday after thanksgiving on episode called friday football friday where we talked about the cowboys losing to washington and everything else. That happened on thanksgiving but Brandon said was me for about thirty five forty minutes and just kind of talk in the eagles cowboys talking-shop about all my thoughts on the eagles. His thoughts on the cowboys in this game is is weird. Because it's not so much about xs and os anybody's really fretting over like this particular matchup against that particular match but this game has so much mayor is not the right word But it's such a great story. This game feels like an episode of a show that i've been really excited about you. Know what i mean like this is. This is not the best example although this is trash reality television but like if you've if you watch the challenge on mtv which is appropriate because today is thursday and the show airs wednesday nights. I'm calling this evening. I haven't watched tonight's episode because the nba back. And all that but like if you watch a show like that like the challenge typically at the beginning of the season after the first episode. when it's over they'll they'll put together a little montage right and they're like this season on the challenge and because they've shot the show the they splice together all this action and all this drama this person on that person and this crazy incident. Whatever and you see these little things and you're like oh my gosh. This is going to be amazing. Whatever and you see this one clip whatever. It is a little piece of of this fighter that fighter this mill. Moment of whatever. And you say man. I can't wait until we get to that episode. That's going to be really entertaining. And that's what this game feels like to me not that we could have anticipated this by any means. I know i know it'd be be we had our fun with jalen hurts being. Qb one. and so. I think we may be thought that that would be the case. I don't think any of us in our right minds after the. Nfl draft thought that we would ever get a jalen hurts. Andy dalton showdown and. I don't even know it has to have been a very long time since the cowboys. Eagles played their two games in a season. Where they both had different quarterbacks because the last matchup was carson wentz and been the note domenici and this time is obviously hertz and dalton so four quarterbacks in the two games a very rare occurrence certainly. And i really just like. I said a really great conversation to kind of get to know the eagles from somebody who knows them better than anyone and so i think you will enjoy it. It will be a very strange game. I'm certain as we're all watching the panthers washington game in parallel i. It does sound likely in vander. Esch is probably you it. Would it would be a bit of a miracle that he did play. That was kind of what i got listening to. Mike mccarthy on wednesday But it does seem. Like zeke is going to play and michael gallup and so those are certainly bits of news. But but yeah. We've got a couple more days to go. So let's go ahead and get to it brandon lee gone from bleeding green. -ation joins us next right here on the ocho pleased to be joined now by a very special guest. The one the only internationally famous internationally renowned. He's probably famous beyond earth. To be quite honest. You know him. As the manager. Editor in chief. Head honcho over bleeding cremation explanations home for philadelphia eagles content. You've also heard him here on a blocking the voice podcast once upon a time many times once upon a time actually an on the sp nation nfl. Show every tuesday. A fantastic production called. The i'd casts but rob stats. You can hear me with stats every thursday on the look ahead. It is brandon. Lee gotten bill whatever. Rj glad to be here with you again. We had a really good conversation. I feel like at the end of last year heading into i believe. Was we sixteen at the time. Eagles cowboys new wave. Another eagles game week sixteen. I know you love history and trends and stuff so there you go. Yeah i do that game. That was kind of like the last peak for carson wentz. Is that fair to say that. That was like it's all been downhill since then seventeen. You know. They win. In the nfc sufficiently over the giants. You know that was getting into the playoffs and whatnot playing in his first playoff game although you know briefly before getting knocked out But yeah certainly that. That was the high point for him around that time well That was not a fun memory. The games at its. Nt stadium between these two teams have always been interesting to say. The least and i really was so bummed for the last guy was. He goes game the one in philly earlier this season. I'm because there was like no juice. There was there was nothing to it. It was just like a thing that happened. And there's a moderate level of juice right now Especially with dwayne haskins doing whatever And really kind of keeping washington out of serious contention for the nfc east. What are your thoughts on You can start with the eagles. What are your thoughts. People haven't heard from you here in a while This has been a really interesting last couple of weeks for the eagles as they head into this with the cowboys they are in last place in the division which i am obligated to say but not out of the hunt altogether which i have to imagine. Has you feeling rather emotional. It's a weird spot to be. In right now i would say You know your cohort at blogging. The boys the great dave halpern me this week in our question answer exchange which you know obviously our readers can read logging the boys and we'll have our own good great nation. He asked me. What are you waiting for here. playoffs or pick. And i think it's really clear to me that in the best long-term interests of the franchise is losing out losing getting the better draft pick. But i have to say like the idea of jalen hurts potentially being in the playoffs. I think there's value to that. Not only getting to see him more evaluate him further increase the sample size of their. But also you know potential playoff experience under his belt. Moving forward seems pretty valuable to me so so things are feeling better in a way even though as a whole i still think there are obviously many issues in you. Know there's a lot of things is franchise has to figure out. I would say so. It's not like everything is rosy on the whole like in the short term. There is optimism with hurts coming in playing well and that's where it is right now so i don't know if you hear my dog barking. He hates the eagles his name. I don't know if i told you this. His name is bear. So he's like second. Favorite is the bears so he's got a really particularly resentment for the eagles Along with being a cowboys. Doc but So i was on I on the enemy bijon radio again. One of the fantastic productions at has been put back subscribe it. It is a great list even as a cowboys fan They do a great job of giving you a full perspective the nfc east and it's worth understanding who the eagles are But something i've asked. Michael kissed who identify on monday with although he he went big time and let bgn. He's kissed his now. The granddaddy boss And i've asked john stolnis. who has on with. I'm gonna ask you now although we've kind of kicked this question around. I know we talked about this. On a special edition of friday football friday on the initial show but doug peterson howie. Roseman carson wentz. It's my opinion that doug peterson is the most valuable of the three. And i say this not tongue in cheek but hirose is the second most valuable of the three simply because at one time the guy did build. What was you know what looked to be like a a monster of a roster no disrespect to carson but he is the least valuable at the three but it does feel like. he's the most married to them and like doug is maybe the first one i just. I feel like as a cowboys fan. I'm rooting for that to happen. But do you think it is still possible to see did a do you think there is a change of one of these three people and be. What would the order. Be in your estimation in terms of likely. Yeah remember we were talking about this I think when you came on the odd cast earlier this year And my answer has really changed. Since then i think in terms of who deserves to be fired and there has to be teams how he's had a really bad season. I know they've made the playoffs the past couple of years. But there's some fool's gold in there in the sense that You know it came down to week. Seventeen in two thousand eighteen in. The eagles needed the bears to beat the vikings. Even the bears resting their starters and the bears were playing for the playoffs in your your favourite boy at kirk cousins chote against a bears a team. That didn't have anything to play for and eagles made it in and then you know Obviously last year they had gone that. Run down the stretch to make To win the nfc east which was a very weak nfc east last year and even weaker this year. So it's kind of like things have been masked a little bit has been my argument. Especially when it comes to howie roseman. I think the way the you'll finished those seasons. I think is more of a testament to doug peterson than the strength of the roster. So i think doug deserves a lot of credit here for what the scene has been able to do. I don't think i wouldn't hold those playoff runs the way they barely made against him as much as i give them credit for those and looking at this year. There's been so much blame on. Doug peterson for like the struggles of carson wentz. And i think. I think more the majority of eagles fans would say would have said at least that like doug is more to blame than carson which is crazy to me especially when you look at now though here is eleven in three without carson. Wentz says starting quarterback in an easily could have been twelve and two if dallas doesn't drop temple game winning touchdown against the cardinals last week. So yeah. I think it'd be crazy to kind of scapegoat. Doug not only just get rid of like. I would be okay if the eagles got rid of doug peterson if they just clean house they got rid of how we respond to and they said we need to tear this thing down. We need to reset. That's fair to me. But if you're going to say like doug. Peterson is the sole problem. And you're gonna scapegoat him. And you're gonna keep howie wits. By the way all indications are how he is staying like there was a a report in the philadelphia inquirer that how he doesn't isn't even in danger of losing his job like it's not even thought which is totally pathetic to me. When he looked at how poor of a roster he's constructed now and like how. This team has series cap issues and everything So just really pathetic to me. That's the case. But if that's the case. I think it's going to be highly staying. I think they're still a good chance. A reasonable chance. Doug is gone. I totally don't know what to make this. Run down the stretch if they make the playoffs. I don't know. I don't know i can justify Firing doug and. I don't think they'll fire doug to be clear. I think if something happened it would be like a mutual parting of ways as how they'd coinate super bowl winning head coach in franchise history. I don't know he just fire him. this literally a statue of him outside the lincoln financial field but it also been talked that doug kind of be okay with being let go now. I don't think he prefers that like he wants to quit. But i think the The impact of taking on all this negativity strategy gone onto eagles. Like 'cause he's in front of it like this isn't dallas jerry jones. You know talks all the time i like. Doug peterson is really the only guy talking. All season long because he has to our roseman doesn't really he's not in the spotlight at all. And i think that's very calculated. And i think fans Kind of you know they see. Doctors needs to easy target. Is there such they're criticizing. They're not criticizing how because he's not getting in front of the podium. So i think it'd be very unfortunate for the usa scapegoat doug Obviously the carson thing is kind of tough because of the contract. They're kind of stuck with him. You can say lease valuable. The financial lease the most valuable hundred and twenty million dollars. So i i. I'm not of the belief that the eagles can't trade carson wentz andrew brain is out here saying that and look. He's a cap expert more than i am. But i just think I don't see how you'll go forward with. Both winston hurts on their roster. Yeah if it isn't obvious anybody listening. I know it sounds ridiculous to considerably degree nation. A great source of cowboys ness. But it really is. Because if you haven't picked up on it. Nobody roasts the eagles when they're bad like like brandon and and you know a sworn enemy of ours. Twitter is jimmy kamsky who does show with john radio they will tell it to you exactly the way it is which is why they are the best eagles guys in the business now I do agree with you. it is. It's unfortunate that has to kind of take. Everything and allies have to take everything but he has to again. We've had the fund with carson. This is all just serious. Talk at this point. He has to coddle him he has to be the one dude who is like publicly taking care of him in publicly going out of his way. He can't really complement. Jalen hurts in the way somebody would. A normal franchise quarterback that is an inordinate amount of things to put on. Somebody's plate when they don't want it because you're the only person who wants that type of role is jerry jones. Yeah i think that's another thing that goes into doug kind of being frustrated with how things are. It's like i honestly don't like there's a lot of people out there like why didn't does ben carson wentz sooner 'cause he didn't have the power to do that and there was literally a report that came out prior to the seahawks scheme to believe in week. Twelve like jeffrey lurie reminded doug peterson that ye has the authority to bench carson wentz. What does that say to you. It doesn't that say like that. He didn't actually have the authority to do. If you had to be reminded that he could do it. That's how i read that So i think it's kind of crazy that kind of power that people. I think that doug hasn't been donkey him out the end of last year. When the eagles you know weren't limited in the first round and he said micro. I'm keeping them as my office. Coordinator in carson welcome keeping by wide receivers coach and like the next day. They were fired so clearly doesn't have all this power and control that some people seem to think he has i think carson wentz has a lot of power and this is something i've i've talked about on bleeding green nation that did an interview with joe santo. Akito who actually did the story for philly voice back in january nineteen about how carson wentz is kind of like a lot of issues there in terms of being controlling kind of ego the report. Is this the same report that he didn't want to run the full stuff. Yes exactly yeah. Same report and kind of overcomplicate. The offense and like so much of that holds up when especially when you look at the team this year and just how like the offense is functioning now with dealing hurts in there and i think in part because he's actually just running the offense as opposed to trying to dictate the offense like carson wentz does now look i think of carson wentz playing well then he deserves all the credit right if he's the one dictating everything and that can work. You know quarterback done that in the nfl and it's worked like peyton manning but if it's not working then he also deserves all the blaine into stiffed to doug peterson it. I went so i think the problem within carson wentz is very controlling. he's a lot of power in that organization. I think people don't understand always at the eagles like the way power is split up in. That building isn't always like the the way it should be jason. Peters there's a story about decent peter's about how first of all these meters said in the past that he's like best friends. Jeffrey larry which is just not a typical player ownership like relationship. Hey but there's brian and jerry jones sabaawi together biaggi. Well there you go But like it was so their stories. About how jason peters like every year players have to get on a scale before the season the way themselves like so. The team can o'clock their official weight. And would jason peters. He doesn't have to get on he tells. The team is wait so meters just earlier. This year wouldn't move from right guard back to left tackle without getting a raise and he basically force the team. Give them a raise. So my point there is like you're seeing that stuff of with jason peters. You're seeing that players sometimes can have this unprecedented level of power in the organization and i think carson wentz has that and i think that's exactly why like you said they're die. Peterson isn't evil. Even like able to name dealing hurts a starter for the next week right after the game. Because it's all about like coddling karston answering stores feelings are hurt and we saw that report this week from adam schefter that human on sunday before the cardinals game about how like carson wentz doesn't want to be back backup here and everyone kept saying. Oh no well. Yeah but there's a difference between our someone's feeling that way privately. And then someone from his camp undoubtedly leading that report to adam schefter and then that being out there so i absolutely think that's a big problem here's like carson having too much control and it's disappointing to me because look i didn't want to get to the point this delaware carson wentz's in situation and like where like turned on him but i don't think he's really grown i don't think he's humbled himself and i thought that's something that this benching could've accomplished is kind of like resetting his mindset and being like wow. I really kind of need to take a step back here now. Things are going. Yeah exactly like it. Mcnabb did like but he hasn't and that's just really discouraging to me. And i think it's so naive to think that the many eagles fans that are out there you just bring in a new head coach and he can fix wins. How could you possibly think that when we've seen evidence that carson wentz isn't coach -able that's so crazy to me. Yeah it does i. In no way am. I r- biaggi rooting for this. But like it does feel like carson wentz needs to bottom out to to truly realize like the era of his ways and if feels like that can happen in philadelphia with the power structure. It may be. It does take go into an organization being traded all the talk all season long. Whatever the case may be That is a really fascinating glimpse into who you know who carson wentz's now on who the eagles are Shot michael kiss because he did pick back prescribing the superior quarterback in the division back in the off season. When you guys you're talking about s players in it and that does kind of set with me to the cowboys side of this. I don't want to spend too much time on that because he's he's not playing this game carson isn't but for so long people talked about and hyped up dax leadership and how great of a leader. He was and how apparent that was even as a rookie and people feel like didn't know what that meant like. So what is the leader like cool. He's on the sideline happen to it's up but you look at the way the cowboys where the season you know at times you look at the way carson wentz's now and sort of the things that come i feel like i mean again not to sort of kick when you're down on christ but i feel like you have to envy that quality in a in a franchise quarterback and say man. This is like this guy. Gets it on top of just being a great quarterback from this perspective. I think when you look at how the team was just like rejuvenated in two thousand eighteen. You know when. Nick foles took over the offense in the team kind of a whole is looking pretty flat with carson wentz like everyone is playing better. Even the defense was playing better. And it's kind of like hard you know it's it's weird to be like you know. Nick foles deserves credit for the defense playing better. You know it's like there's no correlation there directly. He's not actually helping the defense but there's something to that though just like that. The whole energy was picked up. And i think that's what we've seen again here with jalen hurts. Jalen hurts us. Come in and the eagles beat the saints. That's crazy this. I know the saints have you know haven't been perfect. Him tastes hilas starting but still like the energy has just been so much different here with the eagles and you can feel it. You can go into a game. You feel like they actually have a chance. They're gonna play hard. They're gonna play competitive and they have a chance to win. Like i did not feel like that at all with carson wentz especially where gotten to to his new dear this season like where just like they. Don't stand a chance there's really. I got to the point with eagles. Like during the packers game. And i had said it several times before this but it was just like. There's no reason to watch. I'm telling you fans like this is a waste of time we're not learning anything new about carson wentz or the team as a whole. It's just it's not entertaining. It's not fun. It's this boring and upsetting. Yeah it's it's even worse than like like pain because it's indifference. It's just like i don't care who cares what the point of this like. There's no like there wasn't even paying. There was just no feeling at all and yes so for it to reach that point and now for there to be life and energy back on this team. I think there's something to be said for that. And i think it's a big reason. Why moving forward like how do you how do you go back to carson wentz. When this is seemingly becoming jalen hurts his team if the players are fighting for him. I think deal is set all the right things even though he's kind of more of a quiet guy. Yeah it's just. There's something to that. And i think if you're bringing up the dak prescott of it. I think that's absolutely relevant. Just like the leadership I guess it can be tough to quantify those things. Some of that is just like you know narrative or whatever or the sports talk general speak. You know like it's hard to sign weights. That's all we can measure. But but like i think when you're seeing the results of year like i said just let the team picking up the energy without. I think it's absolutely like a relevant point. Everybody it's elaine. Welter off and i'm hosting a new podcast called built to last by american express where we will dive deep into the stories history and continued legacy of small businesses that shape american culture are debut season will focus on black owned small businesses. That need our support now. More than ever each episode we feature the story of a black business trailblazer. That has inspired. Modern black. owned business. First up is kinky. Cole of atlanta's food truck turned restaurant celebrity vegan. We'll also chat with nathan the cutting edge designer behind the haniffah three d digital fashion show. Plus we'll check in with each array are modern day renaissance. 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So that's that's a big statement to kind of come out and realize it So what's your take on the cowboys this year because it has been such a weird year in in sort of a revitalised year It does feel john. John this on on the enemy like a majority of cowboys fans were super team tank. Just get the fourth overall pick. Whatever and now they've won five game so now it's kind of like fine win the division. Whatever i'm not emotionally upset if you don't I guess i'll enjoyed if you do. I might buy the cap but you know whatever just you know. Just go do it. Those people have kind of crossed back over from wanting to tank to just over general indifference. Yeah i think the best know from my perspective. I can't tell cowboys fans had a feel but from my perspective. You do that all the time. that is true. I think how was fans should like wanna win out. basically. Because i think there's some value in this team with a new head coach and everything building momentum into the next year especially when you're bringing the same quarterback back Presumably you're the franchise side thing works out. And he gets healthy and i think that there could be some positive momentum that rolls in from on to a next and generally. I don't believe in that. I always think back to lead the eagles in two thousand eleven where they were four and eight and then they won their last four and everyone was like oh positive momentum into the next year but then they used what foreign twelve next year and it was. Andy reed's last year. So i don't always believe in that but i think it's different because this is again mike mccarthy's first year and he's trying to establish a culture and everything so it is kind of positive they kinda go on a nice dress here to end the season. That's a big reason. Why i didn't want the cowboys to win the nfc east back when they had the chance that we were doing the Redoing the friday football friday. That's one of the most successful podcasts. On the espn and nfl show ever. That's that's total truth. Actually by the way our told specifically this week actually that episode did really well so shadow. Tell the cowboys and eagles fans showed up for that so this must be a really good up so to hear we're doing you know. Obviously we're bringing the people in you and i so. Yeah but but getting back to the cowboys. I think it's been interesting year for them. Because like i didn't really feel good about the mike mccarthy higher and that's just not. That's just me being like his hater yeah. I wasn't trolling. I genuinely felt that way of the cowboys hired matt role. I would have been like scared other like. Oh my gosh. that's great. Hire for them. I really i was really where the giants were going to hire matt rule. I really did not want him in the nfc so so yeah i just. I didn't love the mike mccarthy higher. I know there was like talk that he could kind of. Be like the andy reid But i i never really saw comparison at all. I think there. There's a lot of issues in green bay at the end there. So i still kind of have questions about mccarthy. I don't think he's a horrible head coach. Total joke like you should be fired after one year. But like you know. I don't think he's anything special any means and obviously i think the coaching staff needs to be reworked there after one year because of the defense and mike nolan should have never been hired. I think that was terrible. Hires a defensive coordinator. And when i see you know i'm i'm reading bogging. The boys worse. And when i see of your writers advocating for him to stay i'm like great. Yeah they keep pushing that he putting that out there. Because i would love to see. Mike nolan there. Mike nolan's defense has had success against cincinnati and san francisco like that cool. That's important in in good for ya. Like enjoy all the good vibes at the game. Balls or like boxing gloves. Or whatever you know cliche. But let's keep perspective to your point. Though i mean mike mccarthy is not going anywhere but i mean. They're going to have to replace. Mike nolan for obvious reasons. They might very well have to replace. Kellyn more Getting on wednesday. On tuesday at the boise state job becoming open. I think that's the easiest to connect in the world. And if not. I mean kellyn. Moore's name is is now more prominent. He has a larger sample size as an offensive coordinator in the nfl. I think it's i think it's very possible. The cow was you know have to replace you know both of them. I think my concern One of our writers david howman was talking about. This would be that. Mike mccarthy just feels that with joe philbin who's already on the team staff who's been as offensive coordinator before and just calls plays himself because now you're like fully hitched to mike mccarthy. You're not. I mean there is no room for your living and dying by this which obviously could workout but right now. It doesn't feel like it would. Yeah i don't feel super optimistic about that. Although obviously you know getting back will be a big will make is you. Obviously you know really interested to see what happens with the contract and everything and also how he looks. Coming off is a significant injury. 'cause that's always relevant. How your quarterback downsize back from key injuries as the heels. No so yeah. I think it's been Obviously a last year the cowboys. When you lose dax like the season's just over basically at that point Yeah it's it's an interesting year. I think the best thing you're hoping to take out of it is like the team kind of finding some late momentum here in being able to build on that into next season biaggi a different note but certainly when when we did fight football friday. We picked the team that we would we. We spoke on behalf cowboys. Needless fans on on what team. What sort of hurt. The division lasts from our perspectives to see when we both chose washington Which is obviously somebody. That's playing a huge factor in all this over. The course of the last two weeks for cowboys need matt rule to be washington on sunday and to beat the eagles to their hopes alive. I think that's you know. I think that's very possible to be honest but a tweet. I just saw this hour recording Obviously dwayne haskins has not had the best week to say the least Ian rapoport tweeted out. That washington has terminated the captainship of dwayne haskins. I my first thought is. Why is he out like a captain entering this week. But what are your thoughts on on that team now especially as the. I mean besides feeling badly for ron wise hassans a captain even entering into the season if expensive few weeks into the season like on the table. Yeah i've never been asks guy at all. Like really unthreatened by him now. Naturally his only career win this coming against the eagles so not great but obviously that didn't really have to do as much him as eagles awful in week one after getting out to a lead Yeah so on on the washington. Football team i mean. I think it's clear that if they got a real quarterback like that would be a real problem for this division. I rosters goodman the defense especially is like a. It's a it's a leak defense but it's a top five caliber defense. It's a really good defense. And it's not going anywhere is like chase young is going to be here forever You know ryan kerrigan order. They still have a lot of first round picks and talent on that defensive line and obviously coaching there. I think is just so much better. And that was a higher. That when washington hired ron rivera. I wasn't like shaking in my boots. I don't think he's a guy that's dynamite head coach but he gave washington credibility any raise their floor. They're not a total joke anymore. Ron rivera they can at least be competent I don't know that they're going to be championship caliber. But they will be if they have. They could get a quarterback so that's kinda concerning so yeah it would be great for them in terms of. I think everyone else in the nfc east. Giants fans eagle sands cowboys fans alike if washington kind of win this division. 'cause best then they're picking nineteenth brian. I don't think it's crazy that washington could even win a playoff game ending who they get in the first round here. I'm could be the bucks. I think they can beat the bucks. we'll see it could be the rams And the rams lost the debt so not so crazy to think washington to beat them. I agree with you entirely. I am nervous about what this team could look like in this. Coaching staff could do with an off season without. Just all of the crap i mean they. They had they've had twenty twenty minute long year and everybody has made that point a lot but they have had from even just football perspective an incredibly long twenty twenty so i mean i think getting a chance to take a breath in the off season and then sort of get re-energized would would go a long way for them. And so you're getting a quarterback Is a bit terrifying there. carson wentz. He goes the mcnabb rat. But you're not Who wins this week. The cowboys are eagles are gonna win this game. Because i really think they're trending in the right way. I mean they could have beaten the cardinals. They were imposition. The do at the end there. The offense has come to life there. They just went over four hundred yards in back to back weeks for the first time all season. The offense has found legitimate life yet. It's sad but it's also like this offense. It's not a juggernaut all of a sudden but it's functional and you know for the eagles too. They beat the cowboys in week. Eight now granted bendon. Itchy is starting and that's really not a starter. They beat them by fourteen points. When carson wentz turn the ball over and often still a terrible so if you actually have a functioning offense now i think that certainly helps then defensively little bit undermanned there. Although i think this looks like. They're getting seriously back last week. Which is a big deal But you know they. They lost rodney mcleod. That hurts of onto. Mattis wasn't really playing all that well anyway But still they've had some issues in the secondary. I don't think the defense is a lockdown unit by any means but towards. There's a defensive coordinator. And i believe that at least like an average level defense so i think they can keep it respectable on that end. I think the defensive line kinda take advantage of the cowboys offensive line like they did in the first meeting between these two teams. I could see like brandon graham forcing a strip sack again or some kind of turnover here. Andy dalton i think we'll have a turnover to in this game and like i just don't think the cowboys are good enough to win three games in a row. Now you can. You can throw that back in my face when that happens but like i just looked at it. I'm like they're not that good like they're not good all of a sudden that good to win three in a row and look you set it. They beat brandon allen. They break beat nick. Mullins like dylan hurts obviously way better than those guys. The next future star of the nfl jalen hurts. He's obviously way better. So i think he's endings close. It could be another overtime game. I haven't went in like thirty to twenty seven and if eagles win this game are day. It'll be the first time since two thousand eleven that the have swept the cowboys in a single season before that. I think it hasn't happened since. Oh six and two dozen by the way the second game was like romo got hurt early on remember. I forgot about this coming out. Yeah christmas time. Yeah yep so so even when they swept them it was kind of like you know a backup came in. So it'd be a big deal is my point even though it's kind of a weird loss season and it probably wouldn't actually be all that exciting for heels fans because of that because i how things are lost but like you said if washington does find a way to lose in the giants lose to the The ravens is very possible. The giants have to win won their last two here for the eagles to get into the playoffs. Yeah so let's say. Washington loses at the same time now As the panthers Washington loses us win. And then all the sudden It's eagles versus football team in the nfc east championship game athlete. Financial field I stephen mcghee went to texas. Am which is where i went to school and so he got drafted when i was in school so he's always held a special place in my heart. What i remember about that time is the next week the cowboys were in arizona. And something happened. I've never seen this happened ever since A flag literally like went through his face mask. I don't know if you remember. That highlight like it. It landed coming down like through his actual face mess. Like you remember that you could never like. If i gave you like five thousand trusts you can never do site. That was kinda cool. That was also shot up to now be awesome wa one of the greatest decisions the philadelphia eagles government of course but Well i think the cowboys win So big shocker. that we disagree I don't think the cowboys are good. I do think things are normalizing. I think you know. I tweeted last week that they were the only team to win the east. They were also the only team to play a really bad team. That's because they'd already gotten trounced by the seahawks and the cardinals In ira forgot who Who was other teams the giants the rats so things just kind of like stabilizing and you know you're you're kind of catching up to everybody. And so that's why. I think every team is. They're all equally bad like one isn't like more particularly bad than the other and i think the cowboys would have one in philly if it had not been. I think if if that was. Andy dalton i do think the cowboys would have won that game I know they lost by fourteen. But there was that score at the end that was off that fumble so I don't know. I could see it going your way certainly But i just think. I think the cowboys have a little bit of something. They've won three of their last five. Which get nothing to write home about. Those two losses were thanksgiving lost Recapped with a lock going obviously emotionally for them and then the ravens and so cool and the ravens as they started peaking once again o. Have three more for you. Non eagles related. So people can get to know you so they can go listen to the odd cast on the espn and nfl show. We appreciate subscribers over the rating. Tell biaggi how monday football. Monday is way better than the outcasts. The first one Kind of a quick hit segment here. Who is your favorite non eagles team in the nfl. Like if you if you had to swear allegiance to another team today. It's so funny. Because i feel like i've been you enough on the tests. Been thinking about this. As i listened to look ahead. Sometimes you're like trying to claim the bills over there is your team like was fan move. What a fan move to jump on the bandwagon. I m just you know total Photo four type as opposed to against type there so knocking for you That's a tough question. I wouldn't even save an eagles fan. Rj i would say very much. I just want them to win. More than anything Shout out to a guy on twitter. How dr pizza. Who wants tweeted something to that effect. It's very true anyway. I'm going to answer the chargers. I realized justin herbert. I have some family. That lives out in san diego chargers. Aren't there anymore. But i and they're in the afc. I think that's a pretty. They're geographically really far. So it's not. Like i know any charge san so i don't have to take the chargers here i want. I want them. I think i'm a fan of general managers. And i think tom lesko is an underrated general manager. They're like the charters. Need good luck and hopefully they can kind of higher or head coach. Maybe it's not peterson. I know that's what i said on the look ahead. That's right. Yeah if scapegoated. I'll take the chargers. Okay that's i. I also think there's a lot of comedy nominators between the two of us. Russell wilson is my favorite non cowboy in the nfl. And i know you're you're a big guy so We've got a lot of you know a lot of things at the center of the ven diagram number two For anybody that did not listen to fight it football friday. Shame on you. But biaggi revealed there that he does not like thanksgiving and he had wa wa that night What is your favorite half. Imagine you like some. Christmas treats or snacks or meals. So what is your as we're recording. Nobody can see this but you are wearing a santa hat. What's what's your favorite chris. I i won't even let you to food but just like thing about christmas. It is the food probably. Actually i mean obviously you know getting together with family normally years non pandemic is great and i was loved that i wouldn't say the point. I wouldn't say that. I hate thanksgiving food. I would just say. I think it's overrated is a difference. They're getting into the christmas. I'm half polish and growing up. We would always have some kind polish food. Is we go to my grandparents who are like one hundred percent polish and we would have bossa perogie at the bobcar and they're just a lot of polish food amisi great hash browns. Easy half broadcasts roy. Love it it's an So so yeah. That's that's kind of my thing is just you know all the good polish food. We would have for christmas now. One for you give us. It can be two or three. Something's to stream over the holiday. Maybe we've got some listeners. That are you know college listeners. Got some time on their hands. You cannot say the queen's gambit because that would be basically and we talked about that last week in a different meeting but But yeah so a couple things that maybe you haven't even gotten to but they're on your list just you know. Give us a peek inside the brain biaggi. Yes really good A few questions. I'll tell you. I haven't been watching enough totally agree with you. I feel that completely clean game. It was good. I would definitely recommend. I wish it was longer. you know. It's a mini series of get it. It was kind of wish was longer. I've been watching shits creek. A lot of people have told me. I need to watch that. I've been starting that out It's good so far. No office to me. The office That's really not a good recommendation. Everyone obviously has seen that. I mean mandalorian. So be careful. My wife and i were very. We just started like the very beginning and last night we finish the episodes three four and five. So we're almost done with the first season. So we're catching up with mandalorian right specifically okay. Yeah yeah people should definitely go watch that if they have. I'm sure if people already have. These are very basic dacians. Basically if you're if you're not living under a rock kind of thing. I'm trying to think of like old stuff. I can't think of anything great. But i would definitely say mandalorian for sure. Okay went queen's gambit. We're told not to the office as philly guy and the mandalorian at about a book. What's the last book you read. Read a book forever. Because like i feel like i used to love books and reading and everything but like i read so much for work and i write. You know. Obviously so much work. That's just like it's not fun. I mean i do. I think i need to do more audio books. I think that's the solution. Like i can't look. I can't physically look at something in read. Like the the that does not have any interest me when i when i'm not working because murphy doing that for work so i feel like i need to get into audiobooks here. Kind of get back into the book world but Yeah i listened to a ton of podcast. So kind of keep up with that. Instead i would i would recommend. Everyone listens to doboy you if they haven't already it's a great rate podcast as as someone who loves food and it's very funny so Check out if you have right on. I will say as a finish to this point. I've never understood how people can read books like at the beach. I mean people post like photos like they're sitting on a chair. Whatever that that seems awful to me. I would never enjoy that. Get sand in the book and then that would bother me So just it is. What it is but deal was way to go. brandon gotten main man big star all-time great from nation You can hear him on. Tuesdays on the cast and the estimation nfl show any closing thoughts rj. Happy holidays. merry. Christmas to you all your listeners out there hopefully maybe we can get a More competitive eagles cowboys rivalry in the future. One day could be cool. I could be fun because it's been awhile But hey at least. This game has reached the point. Where like we're both on the side of you totally just want the team to lose we. Actually the game is irrelevant. Because especially had the washington game not be flex it could have been relevant could have been no. There's no meaning to it but now there is a meeting too so i guess we can look forward to that. At least well. Merry christmas to you and yours. Hope you find a way to get some hash brown casserole piece for us. We love you most of the time And we appreciate you taking the time to join us. They want to give a big time. Shot up big time. Thank you to be. Lg for taking the time to join us brand and his good people. It's possible that he has made you upset as cowboys. Fan that you are before. He's a great troll. He's well worth of twitter. Follow i promise on. Twitter at brandon gotten lots of fun and they really do put together Shows leading nation. If you do listen to monday football monday. You've heard myself i'm michael. Kissed go back and forth. Kissed is actually. We talked about it. He's you know he's he's a big baller is going to you know way more important role. And he's awesome aso. He won't be as affiliated with bgn but we have some some fun things in store at explanation in general that we're really excited about as the season continues to move on even the offseason. You know we we get this question every year. You know when the season ends like what's happening with on the boys we don't go anywhere. I mean nothing changed. As far as we're concerned we might have. You know some some adjustments to our podcast podcasting schedule and things like that. But i can promise you that you will have daily dallas cowboys. Discussion articles podcast. I will keep the youtube channel pump in certainly our social channels because like i mentioned at the top. We all love the dallas cowboys. And so i said earlier two. Nba's back and obviously other sports things. I love golf and soccer and everything like that but but nothing is the cowboys in. So we've we've got to keep tabs on things and that's that's our job and that's what we want to do and we enjoy doing that with you. But yeah so. That about doesn't for our christmas eve edition of the ocho. I don't know if you and i will speak before christmas or on christmas rather i know tomorrow. You're you like you got a lot going on and for what it's worth. There is an nfl game tomorrow. The minnesota vikings visit the new orleans saints. I've got the saints in that game. And then we've got three games on saturday. The second of which is exclusively on prime video. I found that to be very interesting but the cowboys play on sunday. So you will have an episode of this show. You'll get me tomorrow on friday on christmas day. Obviously you know again. I don't know what your plans are. But i'll be here if if you wanna talk tomorrow about the cowboys and then we'll get things rolling for the weekend and and hopefully. I know that there are still some team tankers. And i'm tim tank monday through saturday. I let my emotions get the better. I'm me on sundays. And hopefully hopefully we have a great time sunday. That's really what i'm hoping for. So if we don't talk to you before then we we just we really. I wish you such a blessed christmas as such a happy christmas at a merry christmas just nothing but the best wishes in love and prosperity to you and your family and your friends and so we're all looking forward to two thousand and twenty one hopefully being a much better year than two thousand and twenty for the cowboys. But but for you for everyone around you for us for everyone for the world and so yeah that about. Does it for christmas eve edition here on the ocho. Do me a favor. Have the absolute best of all time. Have the absolute best thursday of all time. Have the absolute. Just have the merriest christmas of all time because you deserve it. My friends is always go cowboys up.

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11/10/2020 - Best of The Herd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

42:50 min | 5 months ago

11/10/2020 - Best of The Herd

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It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard is the best of the herd with colin cowherd on fox sports radio. Oh it is tuesday. we are live in los angeles. This is the her wherever you may be. And however you may be listening. We're on fox. Sports radio iheartradio on f s. One joy taylor is joining me one hour from now. The herd hierarchy ten best teams in the nfl. I promise i'll have the steelers somewhere in the top ten and the saint I just all year long. I'm like can't throw a deep ball in this league. now forget it so That's joy taylor joy. I'm going to say something. I'm not gonna speak for women. I won't speak for men. Okay we're lousy at exits at. We have great pickup lines. We don't know how to break up and we get into wars. We can't get out of and that's the theme joy for today's start guys are great entering stuff. Walk into a restaurant bar. We got the pickup line. We we can never get out of a relationship. It's clunky right do i. E emailer caller. I mean we've always done this guys. We're good getting into business. We come up with ideas than it unravels. How to get this thing. Exit strategies is a skill. Some do it better than others. Johnny carson great lascaux. Boom out never saw them again. That's how you doing. Bill checks smart. Tom brady left new england. Why would he stick around. I mean you see what's going on. In new england. Bill bell checks when forty three percent of his games in his career. Bill belichick without. Tom brady so when they win last night. They are no longer getting one of the top three college. Quarterbacks top five picks in the nfl draft we of the five teams are taking a quarterback jets. One jags to washington number five dallas and the giants. My guess is stick with their current quarterbacks. Well colin can get zack wilson. They can get zack wilson. Byu know they can't today. The patriots have the thirteenth pick beyond those top three jets. Jags washington carolina atlanta detroit. Minnesota all draft zach wilson. They're not getting the number four quarterback and they're going to beat the jets again and they'll probably won another again because chac. What's their quarterback solution brady. Left-wing why can't bill bill knows. You can't win this all. I heard in the off season. All join. I heard ballot check. He's brilliant hill. Go eleven five on genius. You're watching them. They can't move the sticks they got lucky to looking to beat the jets last. Now we're played most of the game of the jets. You can't pete carroll couldn't win bill belichick couldn't win. They can't get one quarterback. The quarterbacks are getting better and they're getting younger. And you got to have a quarterback new england josh mcdaniels. The owner craft likes him. They already signed him to a massive extension highest paid coordinator. Just think about this today. They can't solve their quarterback solution. They're not running this camp thing back there running this thing back garoppolo. I get it. But he's never healthy matt ryan. Have you watched the nfl. Matt ryan dot the future. He's expensive. he's past his prime and he can't movies the statue. Look around the league right now. The jags are going to get the number. Two pick in a star quarterback bill belichick. Old guys like florida parcells. Went there sorta coughlin jags. Bill run the whole show. You're the coach. You're the quarterback. Here's justin fields. It is built for bella. Check it is built for. La chargers they need a new coach. Right got the star quarterback there in a crowded sports market. The lakers the clippers the rams usc to hockey to soccer to baseball world series champs nba champs. They gotta make a splash justin. Herbert and belichick sell tickets to a franchise. The chargers that can't sell tickets. But if you look at the jaguars they could use a coach and gm and they'd give total power to ballot check with justin fields. Okay cap space and a star quarterback chargers already have the star quarterback have a really good gm to win now. The chargers are they take a two touchdown lead on everybody. I could throw in. Houston to shawn watson. The guy running and right nows ballot. Check friend. I could throw in the bengals although i do think there coach has done a really good job. They do have. But i don't know. I think bella checks dental before. I think he's i think he's done with ohio. But you start now in six months. Checks gonna awake wake-up trevor lawrence is going to be the jets quarterback tours the dolphins quarterback in josh allens. The bills quarterback it and you got jarrett stidham. It's time to go. That's what nick sabin sitting around in alabama doing. That's what nick sabin is doing. He's sitting around waiting for the six million dollar a year college football analyst job at network but he's still good and he's still got his quarterback but sabin has told people. I don't wanna be bobby bowden. I don't want to be one of these guys. joe. Paul i want to exit at the right time and sabin young. But he's like. I wanna go move right into television and i'm gonna do it. He's just going to sit there and wait and wait and wait and wait and go okay. Boom i'm done now this this year alabama's really good look like the best team in the country. So this is the year he's gonna step out. But bella checks got nothing to prove if he's looking for power. A young quarterback jacksonville is made for him and ballot. Check has had enough of nantucket in boston. Winters his beautiful girlfriend. I think they'd love to live on the beach and by the way the chargers they're desperate to celtic can't sell tickets in los angeles. They have the star quarterback. The spanos family has been reluctant through the years to pay big money for a coach. But they've had some good coaches time to get another one but designed the at brady left. It surprised us. What's bill after. Sit around for. Robert kraft has a coach in waiting the division. Now you're gonna have to or josh allen trevor lawrence because the jets are moving darnold. You know what i know it. Everybody knows it. Perfect time to bolt and this idea. A bill is a genius. You can be the world's smartest guy. Pete carroll was fired twice and fourteen and eighteen in seattle pre russell wilson and ballot check forty three percent of his games before brady and he had good quarterback drew bledsoe can spin it so i think exit strategy that there's an art to leaving at the perfect time. Let josh mcdaniels face. Trevor lawrence twice a year and to a twice a year josh allen twice a year and by the way flora's looks to be a great coach. Great and by the way. Sean mcdermott in buffalo. Great young coach. You want to cement your legacy handed off. The josh mcdaniels. New england's run is officially over. Bill go grab some golf clubs either. Go to jacksonville. The chargers get your star quarterback. You deserve it. You did it. The hard way of new england you built it from scratch. You deserve u-turn turn brady into six round. Pick to a star. Ballot check has earned the right to cherry pick at the end of his career. Peyton manning earned the right to pick denver. Tom brady earned the right to pick the buccaneers in their weapons. Bill ballot check is earned. The right to go to rebuild chargers. Ready to win now. Or go to jacksonville rebuild again with a star quarterback. But tom left. Why can't bill so the story tampa got blown out. Just terrible and bruce arians for the second time took a little bit of a shot at brady. Not getting the ball to Mike evans here. We go within being the best receiver on this team. Why isn't byron. Making a more concerted effort of getting mike involved in the passing game Mike is mike was open. A bunch of that ballgame. He just didn't he didn't get targeted that's all he was open. It might was open. Oh that's a little and let me just say this. It doesn't really matter. Here's the big problem in tampa this morning. There are a v c. They're a wildcard team. Saints beat them twice saint to the number one seat. They're gonna buy right now. New england as of this morning would have to go on the road three times to get to the super bowl. they'd have to go to philadelphia and carson wentz win their tampa would excuse me. Tampa go to philadelphia tommy tampa go to philadelphia carson wentz. Could you win there. And then tommy in tampa would go to new orleans. And face sean. Payton in the super dome and drew brees got there. And then tommy and tampa would have to go to seattle and beat pete. Carolyn russell wilson there at ain't happening brady brady never won back to back. Road playoff games in new england and that was with bella check. That was with great defenses. That was with os outstanding top five offensive lines. He's got the defense but he doesn't have the old line. He had a new england or the coach. Just say it out loud playoffs road. Carson wentz drew brees russell wilson not wanting those games. You may win one of them. You're not winning all three. So sunday wasn't just about an ugly loss. Sunday was about officially becoming a wildcard team in the nfc. Things may get worse. You may have to go to green bay and face. Aaron rodgers maybe maybe philadelphia and their division goes on a win streak. Maybe green bay struggled a little bit. I mean all i know is today. It's whence breeze. Russell wilson all with really good coaches ones already beaten bella. Check in a super bowl sean. Payton got a super bowl and sony pete carroll. You're not beating those quarterbacks and those coaches back to back to back on the road. It's not about what bruce says. Tom says he couldn't win. Back to back playoff games back to back in a weaker. Afc nfc's to thick now. He's four and four thomas. Four and four on the road said this for years part of the greatness of tom. Let's be honest about it. Was the dysfunction in miami and the jets and the bills. He always got a home by he went five and one or six no in division. All those years usually five and one. So that sunday's loss. I'd the finger-pointing stuff i i couldn't care less about but this is the wildcard team now. They're not winning their division and go on the road three straight times and win against again st super bowl winning coaches three super bowl winning coaches. He's not getting a super bowl in tampa. That's what sunday sunday said. They're still really good but so much of sports is your path. I mean georgia's a great. Football georgia played in the pac twelve. If you played in the big twelve play the national championship game every year but but clemson gets to play in the lousy. Acc so the path is easier much harder to get out of the sec. And get through alabama your path. I mean new england's path for twenty years was jets dolphins bills five and one by home playoff game that that was a huge component to their success. Not one in three straight road. He's against super bowl and coaches. Don't do that. Tampa is out of the super bowl. Run win the super bowl. That unless the saints go into the tank. Which if drew brees is upright and sean payton still coaching is not going to happen. Be sure to catch. Live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am pacific the world shaped by the voices. We choose to listen to the leaders. We pay attention to the ideas. We choose to embrace. What if we made the choice right now to create a new world with better outcomes for more of us by listening to more voices. 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Gm wouldn't love my owner holding a press conference he does. It's it's one zero three point five the fan and the media in dallas. You know everybody's got is we're looking at cuyler and two and lamar and we'll of this great quarterback play and cowboys can't score and dax often injury so the inevitable questions. Come up to jerry jones every week. Is it crazy to bring up the idea of taking a quarterback with the third pick or the second mickey mab. Yes you asked me crazy to bring the idea now match ups games here guys. But it's not the thing to be talking about it. All you know dax quarterback. But i mean it's a question and the reason people are asking dak isn't lamar or cuyler murray or it doesn't look like even herbert right now or joe burrow and he's got one playoff win and three of the four years he had the best running back and the best offensive line easily in the nfl remember. It is hard if you're great russell. Wilson's great he's the best football player in the world. These the best football player in the world mahomes the best quarterback talent but russell's the best football player in the world since getting to a super bowl against new england. He's never won. Back-to-back laugh games. It's hard it's hard. Go look at big bend. Tomlin end up in the hall of fame. They always have good defenses. They draft well developed. Well we're they're back to back. Playoff wins in the last decade. That's what that's what hall of fame first. Ballot coaches and quarterbacks. Is mike mccarthy i mean. I don't know you're watching when i'm watching i think dallas is becoming dallas. Cowboys have become the lakers. They're all up in their feelings. It's a big brand. It's a family business They've got lots of Trophies in the case when they walk by him every morning down the hallway as they go to their offices and those things you know they reverberate they. It's it's in your conscience. It's you're you're sitting where the cowboys. And this and that and in the lakers had magic johnson running the team and all of a sudden they said. Okay we gotta make a seismic move fire magic. Go get lebron and now they have championships again. Dallas has to make a seismic move. That's why i don't buy. Dak is a long term future. Dallas suddenly is soft. They're all in their fields. The forty niners get to a super bowl. Jimmy garoppolo they lead in the super bowl with jimmy garoppolo in the fourth. Quarter the minute. The super bowls over multiple sources say they were on the phone looking for potentially another quarterback. Like like that's the way the game works. I mean bella check love. Tom brady after super. Bowl wins. then jerry loves dak now if the cowboys helm if the cowboys weren't emoji they should just make this their new help. If the cowboys weren't emoji they'd be the heart is because they're all in their fields. You russell wilson struggles to win back to back playoff games. Big ben can't and that's with pete carroll and mike tomlin. Those are top six seven coaches in the league seven against dad. There's a place for back in the league me puts up stats but if you take out the giants and the washington football team and giants are actually not bad this year if you take those teams out dallas. Last two years has five wins. But i think jerry. I think they have to make a seismic move with the organization. Something they're comfortable with it. That's okay but i watch this when you get these big brands and a lot of trophies in the trophy case and it's a family business and you know it's it's hard to say magic your fire. It's hard to say dak. We love you but it's hard to do that stuff. I'm not saying it's not hard. But god bella check showed less loyalty to brady in the niners. Were on the phone. An our after the super bowl with garoppolo. Sometimes you gotta be cold in this league. The the nfl is. It's not for long right. You've got to be cold. Sometimes i think i think dallas is the heart emoji. Now hartson the is. That's what they are. They're all in their feels. Good luck but if you want super bowls that's a rough way to go. I've seen that thing play out poorly multiple times on more heard the herd streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen. Live or on-demand whenever you like. I made my nfl predictions. And i thought this was going to be mostly a rebuilding year for miami. But i love the way they finished last year. Five and four in their last nine better than new england. But i thought they'd still be kind of seven and nine When you got a good coach. Brian flores They're good the problem with them being good. It's bad for cleveland. So if you look at the afc playoff picture to now. And the raiders of already beaten cleveland. So if that's a tie. The raiders go in so not only are the raiders ahead of the cleveland browns. But the dolphins are now in a tiebreaker ahead of the cleveland browns. In here's the problem. Here's cleveland's remaining schedule. And they've got what i would call a wildly inconsistent. Defense love myles garrett. You could have the rest of it. They face these quarterbacks. With a so-so defense to shawn watson lamar jackson big ben carson wentz ryan tannehill. These are really good. Quarterbacks miami faces with this defense which is a great defense. A bunch of baby quarterbacks if you go and look at who the dolphins face the next month rookie justin. Herbert seemingly rookie drew lock. Sam darnold joe burrow by the way then they get the patriots. Two weeks after that and josh allen to weeks after that so if you if you said this morning i have to take the dolphins toward the browns in the play offs. Better coach looks like miami will weight onto but he looks really efficient. They just be cuyler. Murray on the road. So all i see with. Cleveland is a not trustable defense outside of myles garrett and a lot of big name quarterbacks with miami. I see a lotta rookie quarterback's or quarterbacks with less than fifty. Nfl starts with that defense in that. Coaching staff miami is better than we thought. And i've said this before about a business. I could take over netflix's today for the next six weeks. I wouldn't ruin it. In fact i wouldn't ruin net flicks for the first next six months but the longer i was at netflix and the more decisions i was asked to make that were crucial in two years. I'd ruin it. Because i'm not a ceo right. I can take over microsoft or apple. You would know anything for six days. You probably wouldn't know anything for six weeks but six months in a weird product we passed on the longer. Miami goes with florez. They're just getting better and better and better and to just going to get better and better and better and the way they are. Developing their rookies. In miami are getting better and better better like when i watched miami. I feel like they're a better team every week. I don't feel that cleveland. I kind of feel like this is what they are hot and cold depending on who they play. So the raiders. Already beat cleveland. I look at miami this morning if go back to the afc playoff picture. It's good news for miami next month. Miami faces baby quarterbacks with brian flora's and that defense and right now i. I like miami's next month way more than i like. Cleveland cleveland in the next month has to face whence to shawn watson and he has to go to tennessee and follows that up with the ravens. I like miami. That maybe it changes in a week or two. But today miami cleveland if i had if i had to pick i take the dolphins. What's up everybody. John middlekauff three out podcast. That's me that's the show big week coming up bella. Check couldn't take the jets. Kinda did to look awesome isla. Murray's what's up with all these young quarterbacks in the draft again renowned podcast me. John middlekauff scout the league now like talk about football. Subscribe to the podcast right now. Heard hierarchy not top ten. Nfl teams according to college number. Tad i moved the raiders down after a win If it wasn't for a bobble they lose to the chargers listen. They've won three of their last four games on the road. There's something to them You know they beat kansas city. Thirteen straight games with three hundred plus yards. Derek carr top. Five completion percentage. I like him. I think there's a way for them to win. I don't think they're good enough. Defensively i think as we get into thanksgiving n beyond defense becomes a much bigger deal. They're a good football team. I think there's a ceiling with him. I've seen him get rolled by buffalo and tampa at home But i like him. I don't love them. But i like him I thought if not for a bobble they lose this past weekend and You know march. Laura said when they do a little bully ball on offense control they can win but i see. I see some cracks here. And i thought they were a little bit lucky this weekend number nine. I think the dolphins would beat the raiders today this morning if they played i think their head coach is great. They've got two defensive touchdowns the last two weeks that leads the nfl. I think they have a better defense than the raiders. I think similarly. They'll be very good at quarterback I think they play as hard as anybody in the league. I mean from special teams defense. They got a lot of different ways. They can score and beat you You know it's just like what miami's doing. And i think if they played the raiders over the next month i think they'd give them fits to go to arizona and win that game in to a second start. Blew me away for nine number eight. But i think they would lose to tampa bay. Let's not go crazy on tampa bay tamba would beat miami. Because of their experience quarterback tampa has got a reality now. They're really inconsistent. And they're a wildcard team and their own to against the saints. That's their reality now. Their defense has forced the most turnovers in the nfl in his tied for the most interceptions but even their defense has been inconsistent on their good days. They can beat anybody on their bad days their embarrassing that's why i put them at number eight number seven but i think the seahawks would be tampa because despite what i saw in buffalo seattle won their last ten east coast road trips. Here seattle's issue. They're bad against mobile. Quarterbacks and brady's not mobile i think they'd beat tampa I team in. Nfl history score allow twenty three points in nine consecutive games so there are all shootouts. The seahawks don't play a normal game. Ever all their games are wack all of their all crazy Their defense has allowed three different quarterbacks to throw for four hundred plus yards this year. It's all the mobile guys. But i do think with carlos dunlap on the defensive line and jamal adams they will get better defensively. I think this game this week was weird. They had two big divisional rivals. The niners and the rams this week and it was a sandwich game out east and they played awful. But i think if they played tampa that has a pocket quarterback they would win number six. I think buffalo would beat seattle. How do i know. Because i just watched them. Buffalo's two teams when john brown is playing and healthy at wide receiver. They are a handful when he's not. They're not as dangerous. Offensively josh allen plan well thrown a three game winning streak. Let's be fair. They've only lost two games chiefs and titans Their i like their coach. The quarterback is good when he's got his full arsenal of people that includes john brown. Their defense isn't great. But again i think good coaches elevate what you are. So if you're averaged defensively can you be at least situationally. Okay on defense. I think buffalo can number five. I could put. Can't get put the saints number one after this weekend. So i don't want to overreact. But they aren't a five game winning streak. I thought their defense finally showed up to have emmanuel sanders and michael thomas back And this is a big vegas thing. Second-best yardage differential in. The nfl outgained their opponents. Almost six hundred fifty yards. Vegas loves that are basically when you go into games. You win the yardage if you do that over the course of a season you in ten twelve games and you get right now. There are a number one seed so we act to it. But i i love what i saw from their defense. I thought it was like okay. And let's be honest about all beat up at wide receiver for a month. So now they're healthy two different looking team number four. But i listen. Here's my thing with green bay. I know what they are on their good days. I know what they are in their bad days but they usually have good days so i think they're going to win thirteen games. I think going to be the number one or two seed. I think aaron rodgers and davante adams right now are the most lethal quarterback wide receiver combo in the league. I love aaron jones. There's so much. I like about this team. I just don't think they're good in a phone booth. But i think a couple of teams they don't match up well with or like baltimore tennessee pittsburgh. Oh they're in the afc. So i think a lot of the teams in the nfc they do match up. I think they match up with the saints. Fine i think they match up with seattle fine So the teams. I don't love how they match up with. The niners are all beat up and the other ones are in the afc number three ravens. It's funny everybody's telling the ravens to i want to read you. Two things thirty one straight games they score over twenty points to longest streak in the league. And you're all telling me how bad their offenses and twenty one consecutive games they've had a takeaway that's the longest streak in the nfl. We got slow down on baltimore. They give you twenty seven points a week minimum and they take them all away from you. Lamar was ten for ten against the colts in the second half. They're not perfect offensively when throwing the ball. But they're fine. They lost the steelers by play. On a turnover-plagued afternoon. I still think baltimore is one of the four best teams three best teams in the league. Number two steelers. They drive me nuts. But they have the mo- sacks multiple touchdown passes for big band. Everybody's close their there too emotional for me but i will say this just got a bunch of good players. They draft them. Well they develop i've been critical of mike tomlin before sunday's y that it was that was that's why i stayed away from that. Bet everybody got to take. The steelers are no way. Am i taking the steelers. As a two touchdown favorite. But i will say this. There's only one great team in this league everybody else. We can argue over your eight now. I'll put to number one ending. It's i think they're their own category head coach plus quarterback a plus weapons a plus defense a minus kansas city. There's nothing not to like. They play well from behind. They play well with the lead. They had a little bit of a hiccup in a shootout to the raiders. I really like what they're doing with mahomes the average. Nfl quarterback those thirty five times. A game he's now throwing thirty so they're building a running game they're protecting and there's nothing i don't like about them that that is you know it's funny. The last twenty years we had a dynasty that was efficient but kind of boring. They're the opposite. They're they're they're they can be efficient but they're big play. I don't see a weakness. I you know once they start playing defense injuries that's it. Gd gets hurt. Patrick mahomes gets hurt travis. Kelsey as a problem right now. Best team in the league and there's nine other teams that probably on their best day couldn't beat them there. You go joy the arguments. I i think i'd move the saints up on green bay just because i thought about that. I don't like green. Bay's run defense. Yeah that's totally fair. I didn't want to overreact. To sunday is animal. But i i. I like it by the way. That's only switch out and do the packers beat the saints. Didn't they didn't even. I didn't even count for that. But that's not what we're doing. That's not how it works. Not i mean listen buffalo. I put him one spot ahead of seattle. It wasn't just the game. It's that. Seattle is too dependent on so wilson whereas i felt like buffalo had other options beyond josh allen. So there you go be sure to catch live editions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am pacific on fox sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. You know that phrase giving one hundred and ten percent come on now. How can somebody give more than one hundred percent seriously. Don't you wonder what that even looks like. We'll if you're looking at automobiles one hundred ten percent looks an awful lot like mercedes. Amg for the last fifty years plus the motor sport. 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Years old was muhammad ali who was the biggest star in the world. He is now joining us. Live and we appreciate that all right. How'd you get muhammed ali. Eighteen years old once the secret sauce to that jimbo collin. Thanks for having me well. I was a sports intern for the abc station in denver cable. Tv and my internship expired. They were converting from film to videotape. All the union guys took the buyout and so a bunch of people who didn't really have any idea what they were doing became videotape editors. I was in my room one morning very early. Getting ready for the draft. Red miller show. He was the broncos coach. Lady named sue twos. The assignment editor came running in. She said mama dolly's two and a half hours early at the airport. Run out and get it well. He was getting ready to fight spinks and then he was gonna fight a denver. Bronco name wild al qaeda by had never done an interview before So i went into the weather. Man's office tried to find a coat and tie find anything. The stapleton international airport Did the interview with ali after the first question. He said you're the one that's doing this interview and everybody started to laugh while colin. That just made me feel so much more comfortable. Because i've gone from nervous about interviewing the most the most visible and famous person on the planet To now they were laughing but they weren't laughing at me they were they. Were you know laughing to make me comfortable. The whole entourage. And so after the third or fourth question he said you sound like the local howard cosell outlook greatest compliment. I had ever had in my life and it gave me so much confidence. I took the interview back to the station. The news director was a man named roger ogden for. Abc there He looked at the look at the tape than he was with me for about forty five minutes and it looked at it again and he said We're gonna put you on this tape on the air. It's barely adequate. We add would ever since the only athlete that rivals him in terms of flair and greatness mohammed ali. Is michael jordan. They're both like great looking stylish thoughtful smart. What was it. Like to interview jordan impeccable. I mean he. I never once saw michael have a bad public moment. He always was great. He pat every every youngster. On the head You know any walk out of the building. you know back. there was proximity. he'd sign autographs He was nice to the security people so interviewing him. Michael michael was just you know easy. It was easy to talk to. He was easy to be around I know his teammates in the last dance at a different portrayal But in terms of how he was with me and with the media he was great and He was just terrific and all those years that we had him on. Nbc and You know in the in the pre-game meetings where he would come in and mar or or ahmad interview him He was he was just a perfect perfect gentleman. And the few times that i got to be with him. Outside of the court in barcelona. We played golf on a few occasions and he was just great. There was nothing. There was nothing intimidating off the court about michael jordan. What about how. Here's somebody that's interesting mike tyson. You interviewed him after the bizarre ear-biting evanger experience now that had to be odd right. That was quite odd. That was that was one. That was one that i knew when it was going to happen after he bit the ear. That nothing like this would ever happen again and You know he left the ring And didn't talk in the ring and we went back underneath I was working with showtime. I still do the boxing into a david dinkins. Who is the producer was in my ear and see if you can get done to get him come out. Saddam king brought him out and colonists. The only time that. I have ever seen actually somebody who is alive. I could see their skull. That's how deep that's how deep over his is. The head but was in the wounded had opened you could see orbital bone in his skull and that's why he felt he had to buy defender holyfield. That was the reasoning. He had that he had to retaliate. So we did the interview. And i took it in chronological order and asked him what had gone on and finally was at the proper response to by his ear and he answered the question and i've always had tremendous respect and admiration for mike tyson because it his worst moments and he's had some bad despicable moments at his worst moments colin. He always had the wherewithal to stand there. Answer the questions. He doesn't hide behind some pr person yeah. He didn't come out with a statement. Four days later he stood there and he took his medicine and he gave you a response. And that's very very rare. Were you surprised the pushback. I certainly was the lebron decision interview created. I still can't figure out why. The nation imploded. I thought lebron looked nervous and thoughtful. Were you shocked by kinda the national response in the anger at lebron yes. I was an light rich. Paul has said to me and maverick carter. None of us had a crystal ball. None of us could foresee a what went on there. And could we have been more sensitive to the fans in cleveland absolutely and could we have explained better That we were giving away millions upon millions of dollars the biggest donation ever in the history of the boys and girls club young. We could've so. So yes we could have done better but to make lebron to a villain. It was wrong and it should never occurred. And if you look at that show now and what. The decision has become a. That was the moment it was the curt flood moment for this generation. Yeah of clanger empowerment and of the birth really of communicating through social media and the rise of the players. Tribune just how things go now. Other reverberations of that show and the passage of time the nba players and all of sports every player at sports owes a tremendous debt of gratitude. Lebron james talking goats now. We know you've done tiger and we know you've done Brady and i'm gonna save those for people to buy the book. Because i want an autograph copy as well. But i gotta ask you this. I remember interviewing charles barkley. When i was a local reporter and i knew he was going to be a star. He was so funny. He made fun of my shoes. He made fun of me. You just knew that guy is going to be hysterical on tv. Is there anybody. That's not a star that you interviewed and you just loved. You just went home and you know that that's that that maybe we wouldn't talk about or maybe a lower star or somebody. Perhaps you haven't interviewed you. Want to charles was great. I say in the book. The charles was the most entertaining most fund guy to be around in. We used to go down the rombas at night in barcelona at the olympics then hung out with them. A tremendous amount and type He Mike tyson threatened to kill me on the air and forty five seconds later. He kissed me on the cheek. Look more disturbing charles. Barkley kissed me on my cheek twice on national television and for no apparent reason at least mike was trying to make up for threatening to kill me charles and i still don't know why he did it but to answer your question. I mean there's a lot of guys who i've walked away. I thought you know. That's what a pleasant really great guy and you know they're superstars to i mean brady is as nice a guy and his cordial. Is anybody ever wanna meet at wayne gretzky. Julius erving joe nemeth. I don't know anybody who's more comfortable. Who's been a bigger superstar who forced merger of a league in brought the afl to the super bowl that we now see the joe name it so And a guy who was really understated but who had just incredible heart and really didn't seek the limelight or anything Love spending time around marvelous. Marvin hagler. he was really special call. Oh you know my first job not want to waste time here. My first job at a college was covering boxing. So instead of going to your usual first job in midland texas. I gotta cover hagler sugar. Ray leonard and i've always thought of it as the great career break now made about eight dollars an hour and i lived on peanut brittle But both of us started basically for free. The book is called talking to go by. I want to copy. This is just great Jim absolute pleasure. The emmy a winning sports reporter sportscaster of the year in america. One thousand nine hundred seven great cnn. Thanks for stopping by our show. Collin thanks for having. 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Best of The Herd: 05/08/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

41:48 min | 2 years ago

Best of The Herd: 05/08/2019

"Do you love music? Are you a fan of movies like Star Wars back to the future? Harry Potter Jurassic Park and more than the soundtrack show is made just for you. I'm David w Collins joined the each week as I break down the best moments in our favorite movies, TV shows even video games and talk about why the music makes each of these experiences on forgettable, listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening to the best of heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports radio and f s one find your local station for the hurt at Fox Sports radio dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. Is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on Fox Sports radio. Here we go. This is the heard wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening. We are live in Los Angeles. I heart radio Fox Sports radio f s one joy Taylor is joining me. I am so fired up for today show there so much about today show. Absolutely, love joy. How are you? I'm great. Dave. A good day. Was right. Call was wrong is would be today would be a good day. I don't like to when I was all white on Westbrook. I said this is not the day to bring out the hammer because I do think also Westbrook's good human being. And I'm glad joy brought that up start with that. Generally. There is one or maybe two stars in the NBA that the fans loved the media loves and people think I pick on it. Carmelo Anthony's been this guy. Blake Griffin's been this guy. John wall. Russell westbrook. Derrick rose where I just don't like him like everybody else does. And so for two to three to four to five years. I get nothing, but hate mail nothing. But vitriol about Derrick rose in Chicago. I kept saying it's not going to last. He's he's not going to last. He can't shoot. He's going to get hurt. I said with Westbrook. He can't shoot hyper Atlantic knocking age well too rigid. I said about Blake Griffin. He's the best volleyball players spiker in the in the league. I'm not building around Blake Griffin. I said this about a Carmelo Anthony doesn't play defense doesn't play well with others, and I get nothing but hate mail, but I'm proven, right? Eventually I got league pass. I watched this league. I know basketball. I'm doesn't mean I'm perfect on basketball. Doesn't mean I can pick every series. I thought Boston would beat Milwaukee. But so when I when I go after a star, that's really popular it is just a nothing, but hate mail and hate tweets for years until improving right? Westbrook's the last one where you all kind of went. That Colin got that one right? So my latest target. If you will is Joel Embiid I said last couple of weeks, I'm not building around among trading him. It was relentless. I've got some of the nastiest emails tweets, whatever you get on social media from Billy fans. I said I'm not writing that roller coaster number one. He's beyond high maintenance number two. He's always hurt. And number three heave Apor is is Ben Simmons game. And Ben Simmons has to work or the legendary process is an abject failure. Simmons can't play with him because Simmons needs the lane wide open because he can't shoot and he scored at the rim. Well this morning. I think Philadelphia this time it only took joy a week. It didn't take four years of your hate mail. It took a week Philadelphia. You know this morning as right? Cam build around that you can't. Build around that. Forget the six treatments to get him on the floor. He hurt you on the floor last night. Listen ninety five percent of the general managers in this league are petrified to trade a popular player and that popular player. Like Westbrook is often your best player and like do it. They're petrified. But two teams in this league have been willing to GM's in this league have guts Daryl Morey of Houston doesn't give a rip what I say. And doesn't give a rip what you think. He'll just go for it. And the other the guys in Golden State because they moved off their best player Montiel's an all star, hyper at leading fun to watch. And they moved off him. And they said, no, we're going to go with this kid from Davidson who has an ankle problem Steph curry, and do you remember the night that Rick Beria warrior legend introduced Joe lak-? The new owner who had the guts to move off the start you remember how ugly that got? I do. Show a little bit of class. This is a man that I've spent some time talking to he is going to change. This franchise come on doing yourself at this service. All of the wonderful accolades being said to you for you to treat this man who is spending his money to do the best that he can turn this franchise around. And I know he's going to do it. So given the respect he deserves. It's hard data general managers. Don't like that stuff owners. Don't like that stuff. But the bullshit of moved off de rose sooner. You saw the injuries. Okay. See picked the wrong guy. Philadelphia. Embiid still has value. It's time to move him. We could go you were saying cone. Why would you trade any of these guys? And I said because they don't work 'cause they're underachieving because they have the second best talent in the league to the Golden State Warriors. They do I got four guys who can play three potential stars. Choices. Life's all about choices make the right ones. Ben Simmons a great player doesn't work with Embiid. Jimmy Butler is a great player. I keep him. Not a lot of Jimmy butlers. Tobias Harris numbers, right big. I'd keep him JJ Redick. I'm not letting go of shooter and beads got value. But man, high maintenance can't stay healthy and doesn't work with Simmons. Not saying that Embiid isn't better than Simmons today. Westbrook was better than harden in Oklahoma City, but the difference between the haves and the have nots the winners and the losers the the rich and the poor in sports is mostly to things. A an patriots are masters of this. The ability to move off talented popular players who are either a pain in the butt or aging poorly. The second thing that separates the rich from the poor in sports the haves and the have nots the winners and losers. The ability to spot talent in coaching free agency and players before everybody else. Does warriors new curry before he was very delayed. Steve Jobs knew you needed the iphone before there was the iphone. He knew you would be staring at it all day. That's what separates millionaires from billionaires. The ability to move off things that have served their purpose. And the ability to spot things that will serve their purpose. But nobody, but you can see it. Philadelphia choices Oklahoma City made the wrong ones. You got four dudes going to be able to keep about two of them. And Ben Simmons don't work here was Charleston shack afterwards. More justice. A Joel Embiid you to big message. Can you step up to the challenge? He's not doing today. I don't wanna hear no snooze. If you step on the court you dog meat you barbecue chicken layer? I don't care about more respiratory. I don't care about no boiler. I look there. By you want to get to the championship you want people to remember the process forever. You gotta step up five points unacceptable during the regular season averaging twenty eight he's now averaging eighteen he's not stepping up to the challenge. They showed him walking into the game today. He'd walking by hisself. Like he's got like he's on his deathbed as out the star player. You can never show weakness. You got to keep the other guys involved in a game death. What he does he complained so much about being sick. He drinks too entity octa room does call three man up. And you know, those guys are funny guys. So they say that stuff, and we don't think it's mean often when I went after wall rose, Blake mellow Westbrook. But you gotta be gotta be able to see things before other people can warriors Mantell staff, and you got to be able to move off popular players. The patriots have done this. The warriors did that you just have to. I mean, remember the old game. Operation of the game is played operation. Embiid has had a stress fracture in his back broken. Right foot broken right foot again tournament discuss a right hand injury. A broken Izhak at a sore left knee a stomach flu upper respiratory infection. Vokes it's it's it's a lot of stuff and I like him. I know you're saying calling your brutal. He can play somebody will take him. But you gotta make choices. And again, the separator in sports. Can you move off popular players when you see trouble ahead? And can you spot talent before everybody else does the? Knuckleheads thinks Simmons can't play. The have not think Simmons can't play. Ben Simmons is unbelievably talented. He just can't play with Embiid. So you're gonna have to make a choice make the right one. By the way, there's a reporter who's very respected. I like him enormously talk to him recently his name as Woche Adrian origin hausky. When he drops stories. He usually beat his competition. They call woes bombs. I always believed them, although this one, I'm not so sure. Whoa. Hsieh's coli Leonard seriously considering resigning with the raptors over LA teams with all due respect to buy a very respected NBA writer. Colli doesn't talk. How do I know that wasn't San Antonio perfect fit? Tim Duncan hidden San Antonio for twenty years. They had a system Popovich was loud. Talked a lot takes away all the glamour from the franchise. I thought San Antonio was perfect. And actually couldn't I argue you can hide in Toronto. The most northern most franchise in another country. I mean, Canada or Hollywood what's better place to hide Halifax are Hollywood aliens could land in eighty eight percent of candidate and nobody would spot. It Lindsay Lohan pokes her head out of her condo and TMC's there in fifteen minutes. I love Woche, but how can anybody know what coli Leonard's thinking, he doesn't talk. And by the way. You could stay in Toronto. And you'd be the second most popular player or the second most well known person in the arena to Drake. I thought San Antonio was perfect. I can make a very very compelling argument for Toronto. I can make if I ran the Toronto Raptors I can make an unbelievably compelling argument. My first argument is. We win were good organization. We're stable in obey the way, you're only here three and a half months year. People forget the first day you show up is late September for pictures. The last day is mid may. But four months is the off season three months. You're actually not in the city during the regular season. You get a week off of the all star break and one more month pre and post or not in Toronto, you're actually only in your NBA city for three and a half months Toronto, by the way as wildly diverse and sophisticated it'd be the third biggest city in America. It's not Sacramento Sacramento's a hard pull that's a hard marketing push come for the taxes without any of the beach or glamour that Sacramento that's a hard sales pitch. Really California's taxes without the perks. That's a tough one Toronto's beautiful Toronto smart Toronto's diverse. Toronto wins Toronto is well run. You're only there for three and a half months. I I gotta be honest as much as I love all these NBA reporters. I don't think anything. I don't think anybody knows about Leonard. I mean, he basically doesn't even have a powerful agent. He's got like a relative. I think we're all guessing on collider. Also throw this out Woche mentions. This Toronto can pay more than anybody else. He's already got a house in California Toronto can pay more. You can hide their they win their stable. The GM smart seems to be a likeable team the Eastern Conference is generally weaker than the Western Conference, by the way. It's not like their taxes are that much worse than California. You're not going to the Dallas Mavericks. So the Houston Rockets at the San Antonio Spurs where there are no state taxes, California in Canada, pretty darn close. The only difference is in America. You can write off your house you count in Canada. But you can only write off seven hundred thousand of that. So it doesn't matter because the thirteen million dollar house Galleria. So I will say as much as I respect all the NBA writers woes and all of you. I don't know how anybody can figure out Colli Leonard. He doesn't really communicate as a player. He doesn't really pass. He doesn't really talk. He's got big hands. In an interesting laugh. I thought San Antonio was perfect. Tim. Takin hid there for two decades. I think that's quite Leonard laughing at all of us who think we know what co- islanders thinking. I don't have any idea what he's going to do. I think it's LA, but I've never been less. Sure in my life. I don't even know what team in LA. They tell me doesn't like LeBron. All right. Then I keep reading stories maybe like some a little. Seriously, that's laughing at all of us suggesting he's made up his mind. I I don't know. I think he's I every sports always has that guy that you just can't quite we could never figure out. Jay Cutler was he really that permanently. Grumpy was Jay Cutler, Jay Cutler, mad at everybody. I could never quite figure out Jay Cutler, and there's been NBA stars. Like that has been baseball stars. The great Steve Carlton didn't talk to anybody. He only used one catcher, Tim McArthur like anybody. There's always been like the athlete we can't quite figure out their private their covert. There got no idea incline. And I'd be the first to tell you. I got no idea. My sources don't even know his sources, my people don't even know his people on more heard heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you live endless thread, the podcast from WBU are featuring stories from read it presents infectious ESP. Special series on the strange passed in surprising present of vaccines in. Mt. Baxter's, which is Tennessee, really strange place. Only people speaking up the parents this story and this fight. It isn't just about right now, it can be traced back over centuries and today's battles are just the latest cycle. My personal guess is that somebody died of smallpox out in the in the middle of the Gobi desert somebody came upon their body and the buddy was succeeded and they briefed in the dust from the body. It's a cycle of medical experimentation innovation and reaction. It's so Nazi Germany. And I I hate to use that word, but it's so the healthcare into space goosesteps to that Sonate next innate next next Nate infectious coming may third subscribe on apple podcasts or wherever you listen last week was one of my favorite spots ever with Nick. Right. He had to he had to acknowledge. I was right on Westbrook. If you didn't see it. It was a glorious segment. It was some of the best TV I've ever seen in that include gunsmoke in American idol this week. It's not so great for me. Let's go to the cower global satellite network. I'm going to have to acknowledge. The Celtic thing is not gonna work with kyri Milwaukee's. Really good. Hi, Nick, we can brush pass that quickly go. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever I mean, if you'd like to I mean, I would rather not. I'd rather sit here and marinated in lickin. Good stew for a moment. I mean, there's the Milwaukee part of things which is this team's juggernaut. I don't know when people want to acknowledge it. They have fifty one wins by double digits in every team that has ever reached a number like that wins the title top three offense number one deepens. And oh, yeah. The best player currently playing basketball in Janas undone and Gumbo. I know that you're big on Kevin rans the best player in the world. But you're also big on Kevin Durant and Kyrie though couldn't win a title. Well, why if Kevin us player in the world, I'm so confused because Janas is about to make the NBA finals? And then there's kyri and you loved that smart GM. You love the transaction. You love Danny aines fleecing, the Brooklyn nets. I'm just curious when Kyrie walks out the door, and the Celtics have nothing to show for it. And we then look at the nets and the Celtics Boston embroi-. Glenn moving forward. Who's in the better position? The nets with Dangelo Russell and probably amac's free Asian this summer or the Celtics building around the core of Jason Tatum. Who took all of Kobe Bryant's worst traits would none of Kobe Bryant. Best traits self into an incredibly, inefficient basketball player, sixty four million dollars wrapped up in Gordon Hayward like and Jaylen Brown, a homeless man's quiet Leonard, I'm just I'm just curious who's in a better position moving forward. And what the process really was for Boston. 'cause the best year they ever had involved. The little is Ahah Thomas, not the actual Kyrie Irving, and that's kind of tough for self expansive swallow, but not if they've been listening to me who's been telling them this was going to happen for six months. But I that's all we don't have to say. No. I mean, it's you know, I was wrong on this one. I'd like to move to the next topic. But I thought it was certainly well are well smartly articulated by you, I do think doesn't feel. This morning and Kyrie's leaving and that's guaranteed night. Don't know exactly what they are. And I think you're right. All right. Let's go to something. I really like it is hard to move off popular players warriors. Did it with Monty Alice decided we're going to go with this kid from Davidson with bad ankles, and it paid off the patriots have mastered. The art of moving off popular players. It is hard Oklahoma City failed. Joel Embiid, Nick, you know, high feel he's popular in great, and cool and fun and social I can't build around that. He he vaporizes Ben Simmons game. What do you make of Embiid? I mean, what what what are you going going forward this team? Let let me ask you something real quick is I'm curious because I listen to the open. I thought it was really interesting to you clearly have the opinion Joel and Ben Simmons. You gotta pick one of them. I'm just curious in there's no judgment here legitimate question. Yeah. Why are you saying trade in bead rather than trade sim because Embiid is going to be expensive and play fifty eight games a year and back to back years in the playoffs. He's not healthy Simmons's uniquely large for his position. Only magic. This is great court vision. Don't worry about his injury can't shoot. But his top three in the league getting ball to shooters. You trade 'em beat yet a guy who can shoot I think going forward. You know, listen, there was harden and Westbrook. Okay. See chose the wrong guy. Even though Westbrook was better than the moment. That's my takeaway. All right. So I think is actually not a crazy take I think people react to it. Like, it's a crazy take I understand where you're coming from to me right now Simmons and Embiid both have won massive weakness. Because you and I were both at the captains of the Ben Simmons hype train last year. Yeah. And I think we both assumed that this summer he'd be in the gym instead of in the club with the Kardashian and would come out with a nine foot jump shot at ten foot jump shot is so bad that the great writer from the or Kevin O'Connor. He's been postulating for three years. He is literally shooting with the wrong hand. I don't know that he's going to get better at that. Because I don't know if he's going to work to get better at that. If he doesn't get better that he has a defined ceiling as a player in beans issues, totally different in bead fully healthy and fully functional plays like an MVP. Because the league is gone so small there's no one in the league to match up with him. He's a bad match up for everyone. But you're not allowed to miss playoff games. Man. This just a rule like if you're injured all year and you miss a season. So be it. But if you play through the season, the only reason you're supposed to miss playoff games as a season ending injury. If you're a superstar, that's the I didn't make the rules. But I know what the rules are. And for Embiid to the I thought this was whoever made this in the great efforts one graphics. This is beautiful operation. Great game, low buzzer, the whole thing, but it's real and it's a concern. And now we don't just have to worry about structural injuries. Amen, Colin how long do you go? When you first became Colin coward. Everyone knew how long you go without a sick day. Oh first year at the other place. I didn't take one for a year and a half. I wanted to prove to people there every day. And right, and guess how many since you've Nomi sick days, I've taken zero you know, how many times I've been sick plenty. But I don't treat myself that well, but you gotta show up man. I don't I don't I don't I don't want to hear about an upper respiratory infection. And I think Chuck and check nailed it, even if you know, you're compromised you can't exude the. Man because energy is infectious. Yes. Good and bad west. It is infectious positively or negatively so I would be hesitant to trade Embiid because if he stays healthy he is so transcendent, but I get the point that you're making. And I don't think it's crazy a minute left Colli, Leonard. Gimme your best guess where he goes, it guess, but what your guests? Los angeles. And I don't know which team, but I do not by for one second the idea that he's anti LeBron. If you notice this a lot of these anonymously sourced reports about about Klay about coaches all of them seem to have one slant. Everybody hates LeBron James. The ignore all those guys showing up on his TV show or the people that have teamed with clutch sports, everyone hates LeBron. I I think if the raptors make the finals, I think they've got a real shot at keeping him. Otherwise, I think why is going to Los Angeles. And if I made your note on Klay Thompson, I think you nailed it clay if the warriors give him five years two hundred million dollars on the first minute of free agency. He will stay if not he might go to Los Angeles. And he actually would be perfect teammate yet for LeBron. Yeah. No, he would be. And I think the warriors by the way. No that he would be the perfect team mate. I I've argue this for years outside LeBron he may fit on every roster in the league a two way player, not my ego. He may be the perfect fit for virtually every team in the NBA. And just and I know we're late as quickly. I think what Claes concern is. And the reason this is out. There is no one expects Durant. To make his decision. Our one of free agency. Right. And it's the warriors screw around and wait to make Claes offer until Durant. Officially makes his decision. They could lose him the warriors need to make lot Klay up. The first moment, they can, you know, Durant's leaving any way. Don't fool yourself into thinking. Maybe we keep Durant. You don't need clay. You can't disrespect the one of the original splash brothers like that, by the way. Nick, right. Crush me today. He's been on the Celtic thing in Milwaukee thing all year, not a great day for me. And so we're one one. Absolutely. We'll talk more later about when we have the tiebreaker. 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So I I'd much rather pay him fourteen that I would sixteen, but if you had overpay a little Dak Prescott is he's the line of demarcation right below him on the best quarterbacks in the league is more iota who I'm out on Winston pretty much out on case keenum. Andy Dalton you're gonna have to overpay for him. And it was funny. I was saying today if I could have my ideal pyramid. What ideally I would pay quarterbacks my ideal pyramid. The top of the pyramid would. Only be five guys. I would pay them what the market bears twenty eight to thirty million. Aaron Rodgers Andrew lucked Patrick Mahomes. Russell Wilson Tom Brady. I'm just gonna pay them. What I have to pay him. I'm not going to have to love it errands a little brittle. Andrew luck spin hurt Russell's a little small Patrick Mahomes, a little young Brady a little old. They're not perfect, but I pay him with the market bears. Then the guy's I'd push back on a little, and I pay about twenty three million a year tops our guys like Philip rivers. Drew brees. Matt Ryan Big Ben Carson Wentz in Watson. Now Carson Winston Watson had been there. Some injury concerns here. But I think they're transformative towns, I think went is better than Watson Watson's doing it behind an awful offensive line. Those guys also have flaws many of you think why not drew Brees tier one. Because at the end of last year. I thought drew Brees looked tired. I thought his arm. He doesn't throw the ball vertically down the field anymore. Those are the guys I'd pay in my ideal pyramid. Their tier two twenty three million the. Third tier I try to pay somewhere in the eighteen to twenty million dollar zone. That is that's guys that are grownups. They can run a team Garoppolo cousin Stafford Goff Dak Cam. I'd even put I'd even but Andy Dalton in there and Kirk cousins in they're they're grownups. I can trust them. That's only eighteen quarterbacks. So that tells you I'm out on mariota who isn't healthy enough or good enough. And I'm out on Winston who's not grown up enough and available enough because he gets suspended. I didn't count the baker's the SAM's. The is the Lamar's Trubisky. I need more the only young by the way, I would put Jared Goff in tier three the only young quarterbacks. I would put it in any of these tears Mahomes in tier one I think he's an absolute transformative talent to Shawn Watson in you know, in Wentz in tier two again. I think their different now they've there's a little injury concern. But I like them both and then in tier three I'd put Gough because I think he works perfectly with Sean McVay system. He's a grownup. He's coach -able. He's the. He literally is the opposite of our Kardashian. I never see him in Los Angeles quarterback of the Rams I've never seen him here. So, but it it this is the ideal pyramid. Now again, I'm not nothing against Baker. I'm not counting any of the young guys yet, the only young guys I'd make an exception for Mahomes is absurd. Goths a real grownup got multiple years now. And I think watch to Sean have shown me it just don't make a lot of guys like that. They don't make a lot of Carson winces. I mean to Shawn Watson unit with maybe the worst offensive line in the NFL in years and the kids still running around and make him play. Give them a decent. No line. I think he takes thirty percent step up. He's still making the playoffs. And he played all the sixteen games last year. I believe I don't think he missed a game. Even though he's getting you know, kidney almost exploded during the season. But he played so. Yeah. Yeah. Play through a punctured lung. I mean, there you go. So this is the ideal pyramid. Dak wants more. Than I would pay for Roger's luck in the homes Wilson Brady. Now, I say more than I'd pay. I'd pay whatever the top of the market is. But there's only about eighteen guys in the league right now again, not counting young guys. That tells you there's a lot of franchises out there. Like, this whole Nick foles thing you do get he's going to go six and ten this year. You you've been fooled in the believing because the eagles have a great owner, a great GM a very good coach unbelievable offensive line. I mean, defensive you've been fooled into thinkin foles it watch him, go six and ten. There's not a lot of guys I wanna pay big money for that is not. And if I'm paying you thirty million like back, then I shouldn't have to pay sixteen million for a wide receiver and eventually twenty four million for a running back and be petrified. If there's an injury on the offensive line if I'm paying thirty listen Aaron Rodgers got to a Super Bowl in one. And he's never had a great defense. Andrew luck. When eleven and five eleven five eleven and five with Noah line or running game. Russell wilson. I mean, honestly offensive line running back for Cevers. How many stars is? He had Tom Brady. Edmund has go to guy. Patrick, Mahomes is a baby. So there's there's Dax get into a territory where I think I think Dacca a tier three guy, and he wants to be paid tier one money. That's trouble. That's that's not a great ending that could that could be a franchise sinking deal. And as a joy said earlier, I think you're trapped because if I'm Dax agent, I'm like you think I'm taking a haircut. You think I'm taking a pay cut? I saved your franchise. I watched the year that Tony Romo was hurt. I watched your backups. You're the biggest brand in the NFL. I made you a hundred fifty million dollars the last three years in merchandise in ticket sales in relevance. I mean, the Tony Romo Cowboys that even networks didn't want the Cowboys on that year. Mean Dax kept them on television for three years. These going to get it. He is going to get a tier one contract. Watch out short a catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific joy. I you've said you believe in conspiracies more than I do. I tend to be I have a battle within my brain all the time. I want to be somebody that evolves. I've been an investor in the market for years. I'm always looking for the new company the Amazon the next net flex the next Uber. But I also think ninety nine percent of the next rate idea is a bunch of hooey. I didn't buy into the Atkins diet. It made no sense to me people that are overweight. Suddenly lecturing all of us who are in shape to eat T-Bone steaks for breakfast. Now, I'm gonna go with fruit. I don't think grain bread is evil. I'm not eating bacon and cheese all day. I didn't buy into the Atkins diet. I didn't buy into bitcoin really no centralized Bank in the world accepted. Bitcoin. The bitcoin. That's not really the kind of currency. I trust never bought into the segue. Oh, we were all gonna ride segues to work. Now, just go to YouTube, and there's loops of people falling off them riding around their house. I never bought into the wildcat offense. Really? Let's not hike the ball to quarterbacks hike into a halfback. I didn't buy it. I don't buy into a lot of new stuff. Self driving cars is the new one. Oh, really? I'm going to be on the interstate in Los Angeles look over and I'm the only guy in his car. Really? We have self driving cars. They're called Uber. Somebody drives me around town. I mean, I think that's coming. Well, not in the world in which I live. I'm not leaving my house if the world is nobody's in a car. I'm not I'm never leaving my house. Okay. And this is why I never bought into the triangle offense in the NBA with Phil Jackson. Why? Because nobody copied it. Everybody copies everything. I mean football the NFL we call it the copycat league in television, which I work American idol and the survivor have spawned four hundred shows networks, I mean, everybody's copying. Everybody Silicon Valley. Everybody's copying everybody. If something successful. Everybody's copying it. Nobody. Nobody copied the triangle offense. It was Kobe and MJ and without a it's it's known as the inverted triangle offense that doesn't make the playoffs. Let me tell you about the process in Philadelphia. It's a bunch of hooey. You're basically giving up your franchise for half a decade. Oh, by the way, still charging your fans eight hundred dollars to sit in the eighteenth row. So the fans get hose on the process, which is just tank and then just get great draft picks. Oh, by the way, Sam Hanky was the GM of that. He's been fired since oh somebody else hired him. Because he yeah. They did he's a consultant for an NFL team. The Denver Broncos. Why isn't it getting gobbled up for the brilliance and? The by the way, a Daryl Maury. He didn't completely tank. He actually went to the clippers and took their best player. This league is about veterans who can score not about kids. None of these kids are winning in this league. Now about veteran guys. Our furred Janas has no kid, by the way, what is in his fifth year. You know, he's considered a kid. He's not a kid. He's been developing his game forever. He's now in his fifth year colline Leonard not a kid v. Six year took him about four to be able to play. So this whole Philadelphia thing. I never bought into the process. I don't believe any brilliant architectural plan whiffs on four top picks. Michael Carter Williams Jalil Okeafor Marquel. Folds Nerlens Noel was that part of the process bombing on Peck's, by the way. Ben Simmons and Embiid that's part of the process. It's also part of occasionally hitting on a draft pick. You don't have to be called anything to occasionally hit an draft pick the blazers had on Damian Lillard and CJ McCullough. Is that is that is that needed nickname? I mean, the warriors hit on Klay Thompson. And Steph does it need a nickname. I don't buy tanking the Phoenix under the only team that have copied out. How's that working out? What are they under fourteenth coach in seven months? I mean, I just am a and I battle it could. I don't want to be an old guy that doesn't buy anything new like, I I am a believe. I'm always looking for the next thing. My entire career has been built off. Okay. Did local TV. Okay. That's not as popular. Let's go to radio and then syndicated radio. And I'm a mover all move around trying to avoid you know, the sheriff. We you believe in the process, but not a fad, and I think behind the processes, this is this is something innovative that we're doing it's going to take time except for no one else is doing it. And it requires the complete demolition of our team for men is it half of a decade minimum half a decade while you're charging fans. Sixteen hundred bucks for a you know, a nice couple and Philadelphia to go get a stay. I'll watch a game. It's sixteen hundred bucks. And the team loses by forty eight right things that truly revolutionize a sport or society or technology developed over time, it might burst on the scene. But that was that was ten twenty years in the making it didn't just become a thing. And then everyone copies it, and then it, and then it disappears. It's a process behind that. That thing saying, oh, you know, this is an overnight star know that overnight stars when going to auditions for the last twenty years, they finally Tom Hanks was not an overnight success. That's not how it works. So I just nothing against Philadelphia because I love their talent. But I've always, you know, everybody's always like, well, no the process got them. All these great draft picks. It got him Simmons. And Embiid Embiid. I'm ready to move off of and Simmons half. Philadelphia's ready to move off of because you hit in a couple of picks mostly hit that doesn't make it anything special. I don't buy into tanking the Celtics didn't tank the Spurs never tank the clippers, by the way. May look how good they are after losing their guys. They didn't tank I'm not into this tanking thing. Unless you're gonna give fans free tickets. I don't buy into tanking, and I don't think getting a bunch of young guys matters. Because the NBA has always been a veterans league. Can't win would twenty year old guys me Jason Tatum, the great young player disappeared for most of their series against Milwaukee. So I saw this that self driving cars I'm off the freeway if that happens, I'll tell you right now, I am off so much safer with literally nobody in the car. It's all I mean, we're in the car, but if all the cars communicated with each other, oh, great. It'd be like I robot they're gonna like like dolphins. Well, you get done. What do you mean? They're communicating with each other. We have a tesla, and it has the the cameras all around the car. News. But I mean, if all the other cars were were doing the same thing, it'd be much safer, right? You're gonna feel good about a freeway. We'd you look over. And you're the only person in a car but to robots driving around about the car drives itself. Not comfortable at all of that. Also to all the robot people, I did not say that that was Colin coward. So when you take over the world, I am very pro about I'm not anti robot. I am not into robots. So Russell Westbrook and Paul George have undergone off season surgeries Westbrook torn ligament left hand plays one hundred miles an hour. Plays hard any had a surgically repaired right knee was a minor procedure. There are certain things, and we know this in life that don't go well together like no, exercise and bad diet. You'll die sooner than me statistically, no, exercise, bad diet. You don't last as long on the NBA two things that make sure you don't age, well, hyper athleticism, and can't shoot. It means. You're going to have to go to the basket and score. Get knocked down. Go into the trees, it shortens careers, Derrick rose. John wall Westbrook. They're not aging. Well, hyper athlete super fast. Get by people. But that means to go into the forest was six foot eight six foot nine three hundred pound guys. Here's what age is. Well, and I'm not anti Westbrook. Here's what ages. Well, me NBA. Now, I told you, hyper, lettuces them and can't shoot doesn't age. Well, bad diet. Don't exercise does nature. Well, here the two things that age well-nigh NBA shooters and self awareness, Vince Carter used to dunk now. He just shoots threes. Kobe scored at the rim last five years. Jumpers Ray Allen came into this league. As a dynamic athlete last nine years. I'll stay out of here. All shoot jumpers. Jamal Crawford shooter twenty years, Reggie Miller. Eighteen years, Dirk Nowitzki. Twenty one years Gobi twenty years. What ages well in the NBA? And I think if I ran a franchise I'd really pay attention to this fine guys who can shoot obvious. But the underrated thing is self awareness. The guys in this league who age Vince Carter Koby Jew. Jason Terry Jamal Crawford. Dirk they have this understanding. I don't wanna get I wanna bang around the rim. I don't wanna get knocked down. So you see it as this gift this, hyper athleticism, but rose John wall and Westbrook now Westbrook's the best of those three I think easily, but they're not aging. Well, is I've always thought Russell needs a little more self awareness. Dude, I'm not interested in use going at the rim as much I'm not interested in you, getting rebounds. I want you half court let the big get the rebounds. They get the ball to you. You don't have to grab the rebound. Go ninety six feet. Russell needs to alter his game. I wanna see more jumpers. I don't want to see a near the glass, I want you getting outlet passes. Self awareness has always been. 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