21 Burst results for "Ben Carroll"

"ben carroll" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

05:47 min | Last month

"ben carroll" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"Yeah, I'll be interested to see because look, I've too much going on. Like I can't go and change my mock draft. Do it now. You can do that, right? Yeah, it's 7 58 or whatever, which I'm sure someone is going to do. I had it. I had it. I was right. I had it. Yeah, no. My number one pick of the draft wild. All right, the pick is in per TV. I'm going to hit mute so I can see the words here. The roller coaster's starting. Okay, so the roller coaster is starting Adam silver's going up according to Matt penny. I'm excited to see what this is. All right, here we go. Here we go. We got the silver strut. By the way, for people watching and listening, I do not have my sound on. I do not have a TV on. Matt, he's watching oh my God. It happened. It happened. I love it. Great. So let's talk about politicians with the Orlando Magic. I believe I need a sec. Despite his talking about it, I need a second. There wasn't a world where I thought this was happening. I thought it was Chet or jabari. I did not have my mind in a place where I thought it would be public. Nothing to him. He's proven that he's beyond worthy of being the number one pick. He came in too. It's this weird roller coaster where pre season he was kind of around that area and coming out of high school. We said, here's a shot blocking guy that can hit threes and at the grind session out in Arizona. He's doing pick and roll stuff off the dribble. And then it was weird. It had a great start for the season that he tapered off and he picked it back up, ended on a high note. I'm shocked I am that the fit is interesting. I'm shocked they went number one. Shocking, absolutely a shocking pick. Let's talk about the fit though. Paula Ben Carroll, he is going to go play with Franz Wagner. He's going to go play with Jalen suggs. There are two lottery picks last year. Wendell Carter in the front court. Jonathan Isaac is another swing piece here..

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"ben carroll" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

05:41 min | Last month

"ben carroll" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"Probably not quite as good of a pick and roll partner as Paula Ben Carroll because you're going to be able to switch that action a little bit easier because jabari is just going to try and shoot over the top as opposed to like punish you and take you down into the post. But I don't know. I think it's actually probably a pretty good I think it's probably a pretty good fit at the end of the day and if I was Houston I'd probably be happy with jabari and I'd be happy with chat too and we can talk about that momentarily but like I think that it works for Houston still. Absolutely. And with Houston, you ship out Christian wood, right? So you clear out space regardless of who it is and we're sort of kind of fitting this similar pieces into holes that don't work with. Well, if it is Paulo and you just drafted out from Shang, you have usman garuba, who's probably taking a backseat to all this talk right. But the jabari Smith junior Al presha goon pairing probably works a little bit more cleaner as a four and a 5 defensively, jabari can make up for some of those mistakes. Guard down the line up a little bit, threes and fours, maybe rotate for 5 a little bit, not the shop locker, clearly, that Chet would be if ends up at three. But I like that too. And jabari's translation is really clean. And I don't want a short change him either because we talk so much about the upside of the other guys. Jabari Smith junior is a year younger than Chet holmgren. His developmental track has skyrocketed. He was a top ten kid out of high school he was in the USA system. It's not like he came out of nowhere like a Jalen Williams who's surging. We'll talk about that later. But he's continued to improve at auburn. He improved by leaps and bounds. The jumper actually got better, who's more of a mid range shooter in high school that could take some threes. Now is a three point shooter. We're talking about Kenny M twos. So he's still a baby in his track of where he's going to be. And I'm really high on jabari Smith junior as well. Regardless of where he ends up. And if it is jabari Smith or chat holmgren in Houston, I like both of their fits defensively better without burn sheng goon than I do. Paula van carro. Now, I like the fit of Paula baine Caro and Jalen green more because I think that that two main game would just be phenomenal and as much as I like Shen gun as a prospect. I don't know that you can like truly consider him necessarily whenever you're like diving deep into this and like try and create like a high upside team, right? You take the best guys at the end of the day. And if you evaluate Paula Ben Carroll would be the best fit with Jalen Greene, you take him. But at the same token, it is worth acknowledging like chat holmgren does help to actualize a lot of like outreach on the defensive end. Jabari smith's mobility and his help side defense does help to actualize Shang on the defensive end in Shang's ability to make plays with the ball in his hand as a passer as a ball handler. I actually kind of like that. I do too. I have sold myself on it the last three or four minutes here that it makes a little bit more sense. I'm not worried. I don't need to worry. There's more of an opportunity I would argue for Chet to score more and be this centric force of everything else..

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"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

05:15 min | Last month

"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

"I'll just keep it simple. If he says it's jabari Smith, I'm going to assume it's jabari Smith. Just like when he says, when he reports, you know, somebody's signing with this franchise in free agency, I just assume that it's right because he's always right. So when he came back just before the start of the draft and, you know, sort of reset everything and said, Paulo Ben Carroll is under consideration to be the number one pick. I was like, okay, Paula cares about to be the number one pick. Because there's no way, and I don't want to speak for woj. But I don't think he comes back and re reports that topic unless he felt like he really had to. And obviously, he did because we now know how it unfolded. So what's fascinating to me is why? Because this is not the way these things typically go. I can not remember another NBA draft where the guy who was projected to go first on the middle of the afternoon on draft day actually went third. That is not something that's not normal. This never happens. You never have a situation where a guy is projected to be first for weeks and weeks and weeks. And okay, maybe there's been a situation one or two drafts perish where that guy goes to. He never goes three. This never happens. Totally fascinating. So, you know, I'm just speculating here, but you start to wonder, okay, Orlando could have whoever they wanted, why, what did they do and why did they do it to convince people that they were taking jabari Smith? And one logical possibility would be like, if you thought Oklahoma City really wanted jabari Smith. Like if you believe that's the guy they want. And we really won't Paulo. So we will put it out there that we're taking jabari. This is done. And then they'll call us. They got a 1 million 1st round picks, and they'll give us a future first to move up one spot so they can get their guy because they don't want us to get their guy. And then we'll just move back. Get a future first, and we'll get our guy at two and our guys pull up in Caro. If you really thought that was a possibility that it makes sense to make them think that you are on jabari Smith. But the problem with that logic is that most people thought Oklahoma City wanted to at home. So if you're trying to execute that type of thing, you probably need to put it out there that you're taking at home, grin not jabari Smith. So that's why I say I'm looking forward to the 30 for 30 on this thing because it's one thing to trick the betting markets and trick the drafters, but when you're tricking and the word tricking might, it's possibly an incorrect word, but you get the point. When you've got the best NBA reporters in the world, sort of off the path a little bit on this thing, then you have really done some misdirection that I don't think people clearly saw coming until literally minutes before the draft was about to start. Literally, that was the other context I was going to provide to this. I don't have it down to the minute, but it was within, I mean, I was doing the headquarters pre show. It was within 30 minutes that wow, can I put it out there that it might be in doubt? And I'm not going to misrepresent myself. I do just happen to have a handful of sources at the NBA level in some front offices with people that I trust who I lean on for evaluations and Intel around the league and I checked in with two of those teams that had lottery picks and even after woj said this, both of those people said, I'm still not buying it. This is complete smoke. I'm just telling you up until the pick. People thought that the magic we're going to take jabari Smith and this was a smoke screen and it wasn't. And consider that Ben Caro's agent is Mike Miller, who obviously you're familiar with. He's familiar with that front office and that franchise, of course, he just got into the agent space. Yes, that Mike Miller. He's palo ban and Wendell Moore junior's agent. Following Carol's been living with me in Memphis for the past several weeks. You know that, right? You should have had this, Paris. Yeah, I just, and the fact that he goes one, I love, I do love the pick. We'll see if he can be the guy. Magic aren't a franchise, that's 7 decades old. They've been around since the late 80s. They haven't had many number one picks, but the ones they've had that they've taken that have been this. I guess they had Webber and then they traded away the pick if I remember quickly, so this is the fourth one, but Shaq and Dwight actually stay with the team, became Hall of Fame players, brought them to the finals. I think has that capability. I think Ben Carroll has a Hall of Fame ceiling. We'll see if he can do it. But the fact that this happened and then Oklahoma City sitting there, not expecting. I mean, checked in with that consistently in the past 48 hours. Everyone, Oklahoma City Chet's group, they were expecting that to happen. Chat to OKC. And when suddenly jabari Smith is on the board there, this is where I would have loved to have had a camera with Sam presti, just a really see. Was it truly check the whole time or was it like guys? All right,.

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"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

05:19 min | Last month

"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

"Exhausted or exhilarating. Exhilarated, we are technically starting this podcast before 1 a.m. eastern. I had the over under around one 25 a.m., so I'm thrilled, yes. I got to contribute from home in the home office, so we get to do this, which is nice. And it was a, what a, I filed a column for CBS sports dot com, I was think that you'll be if you're listening to this podcast early Friday morning or at some point Friday we'll get that link in the description there. Because the gist of the column is, this was an intriguing build up to this draft and then, in my opinion, the decisions that got made will have severe ripple effects for years to come on a number of franchises and the fact that we talked about this on the pod. I didn't have the time. I was writing the call. I didn't have the time to pull the audio, so I can't bring it back. Earlier this week, you were like, you were like, there's no way jabari's dropping past two. And I said, the only way the only way is if the magic we're pulling something and Ben Carroll was going one, my understanding was, OKC, taking chat the whole time, that was really tested. And then lo and behold, man, like we're obviously going to start here, I want to spend a number of minutes on not just the top three, but the top 5. This is riveting and fascinating to me perish. I don't disagree with this. I think I was the only person in the media who had palo banquero as like the number one prospect out there. If someone else is out there, you're paid full time to do this. I'd love to have you in my company. So I had it. I had it. I had it a year ago. I had a year ago. My friend. I had a year ago. Yes, sir. We're talking right now. So I don't disagree with the decision, not as gonna come and clutch here on YouTube. If you see some of the graphics, love it, thanks to our help with our friends who did a wonderful job on the CBS sports headquarters draft show tonight. So I don't disagree with Ben carro number one in the magic. This is what I would have done, but I love how this happened, Parrish. We talked about it on the mock. Leading into that morning, there was that absurd betting movement, which wound up being true. I'll just recap this real quick and then GP take it away. That happens. Man, Carol moves from plus 1400 to plus a thousand to plus one 75 insane movement over the weekend, right? And then it shifts back the other way. Jabari gets a little bit more of a comfort zone somewhere in like the -200 -300. And then on Thursday, Adrian wojnarowski tweets in the morning and resets the betting market entirely. He says, listen, all indications are, it's going to be jabari one, chat to Ben carrot three. And that leads to a number of books taking the bets off the board altogether. Man, oh man, the magic have the NBA guessing. Completely duped everyone. So if you got in on that Ben Carroll movement, more power to you, they really did keep a tight shop in karos. I understand it never worked out for Orlando. And where this goes will be fascinating to me, GP. Two other big men that got drafted. First overall by the magic. Shaquille O'Neal, Dwight Howard. What do those guys have in common? They're going to the Hall of Fame and they brought Orlando to the NBA Finals. The closing lines of my column are this. Considering the amount of undeniable talent at the top of this draft, factor in the drama, 11th hour, 59th minute, Orlando doing this, pulling the rug out from everyone. Anything shy of Ben Carroll taking Orlando to the finals is probably going to be seen as a failure. You had jabari Smith right there. You had shed homegrown right there if you wanted to take them. You go with Ben Carroll. I love the move, but considering the franchise, it's all the more compelling. What are your thoughts here as we recap the draft night? Well, it was a wild day. I'm looking forward to the 30 for 30. On how the top of this draft unfolded because though I think most of us believe that, well, I'll just speak for myself. I've said consistently. For months now, that I would take Ted holmgren number one, but that I totally understood why somebody else would take Paulo Ben Carroll or jabari Smith. Like, I don't think any option was idiotic. So this always was sensible to me. And obviously when I woke up on Thursday morning and the betting markets had went wild overnight, it was like, wow, what is going on? But I'll be honest, once wage tweeted, listen, the top three is firmly in place. And jabari Smith is going to Orlando, ched homegirl is going to Oklahoma City and Paolo Ben Carroll is going to Houston, I just said, well, that's it. We're done here. And the betting market stabilized, jabari Smith went back to being the betting favorite, betting market favorite to be the number one pick. Favorite. Right. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, when I was asked about it earlier in the day, it was just like, first off, what is the best NBA reporter who exists? And he's also like, I don't think I'm telling secrets here. He's tight with that front office. And so this isn't the.

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"ben carroll" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane

NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane

04:32 min | Last month

"ben carroll" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane

"That there was maybe some concern on that side as well. But I did seem like it was mostly the family situation and just not wanting to uproot everything. Again, which is understandable. That's not easy. That's not easy to do. No, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I bet, in the end, if we find out, we'll find out it was a little bit of a lot of things. But I'm going to, until we have reason to believe, otherwise I'm going to go with the family stuff probably trumped all for him. All right. Drafts are on the move right now. It's a little bit straight because here's the thing. Odds don't tend to move without there being a reason without somebody knowing something. At least move significantly anyway. Minor boom, mature, but we're starting to see Paulo banquero, his odds of becoming the number one pick going way up from a plus 60 plus two 50. And you mentioned, I didn't see this, but you mentioned to me before we went on the air here that he actually became the favorite at one point. So something is going on and Keith, you've got insight into the Orlando Magic organization, what do you think is happening here? I don't want to say it's unprecedented, but it's pretty unusual to see stuff like this happening. Yeah, so the other day, Jeff waltman did his money even then yesterday, but it is for those who don't know. He's the president of basketball operations for the magic. He did his customary pre draft media availability, and he was asked, it had been reported in the team Ed shared that jabari Smith and Chad holmgren had come in to meet with the team. And work out with the team. There had been nothing on Ben Carroll. He was asked specifically as Paulo ban caroban through. And he gave a very insightful, long answer about, you know, hey, it doesn't always benefit us or the players or anybody to release that information. And in the end, he didn't answer the question, yes or no, which was his long answer there. So that led to some speculation sometimes. Teams put up smoke screens of, we're not going to meet with the guy we really want. I think by this point in draft week, we're all looking and grasping onto any possible straw we can find for stuff..

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"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

03:12 min | 2 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

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"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

07:58 min | 2 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

"Even if it's just, you know, he's going to be really, he's going to be really good. And then we'll look up in two years and I think it'll be that quickly. We'll know whether he's great or not. But he's going to be really good no matter what. He's my pick to win. No matter where he goes, 'cause you know what, you look at Orlando, you look at OKC, you look at Houston. Although, again, I guess he could go as low as four. It's not unthinkable. He could go as low as four, depending on Jade and ivy, I even had someone recently tell me like, Keegan Murray at three is not unthinkable. We'll get to keeg Murray when we do our cucumber episodes. But even if he goes for. The term that keeps coming to mind with bank care with me is multifaceted man. He is going to be and I don't know if the way that the NBA is constructed. Listen, how about this GP? The way that the NBA has been constructed from a roster building, execution, philosophical standpoint from 2018 to 2022. That wasn't that way in 2012, and it wasn't that way in 20 in 2002, right? I don't know if how the game is played right now is going to be how it's scouted recruited and built in 2033, right? But what I do love about Ben carros game is it seems to be immune from any kind of drastic changes. He is going to be able to score no matter how you need him to do it. He will be able to shoot from deep. He will be able to shoot from the mid range, put it on the floor, distribute, take it to the tin with aggressiveness, back to the basket, post up game, all kinds of even if you think, you know what, NBA doesn't need Paulo banquero to post up from 13 feet out kind of back a guy down. Maybe not now, but who's to say in 6 years from now because of a coach, he's with the franchise with that, there might not be room for that. You can adapt him and mold him to so many different ways, offensively. In my opinion, in more ways than chat. In more ways than Jayden ivy, and more ways than jabari Smith, and many more ways that that's why I think, yes, his flora is the highest, and he just seems, he seems so safe to me. He really, he really, really does, and I think he's aggressive, super high competitor. You even see it in things like, I like seeing this from players. And maybe I noticed it a bit more because I was just around the team as much as I was down at the end of the season. Like sometimes like Paolo, he wouldn't be afraid like you could tell that there was a little bit of the duke filter on him, the coach K, but like, if someone asks like a bad question, he almost give him like a little bit of a stink face. They're like, there's a genuine like authentication authentic Ness with Ben Carroll that I so appreciate. Not to mention that he provided the most entertaining, you know, lead up moment in the draft of any when he was mistaken for Patrick Mahomes at the F one. And the other. And he handled it well. No, he was great. And like, you've been around him. I've been around him. He's like a pleasant young guy, you know? He's like smart and thoughtful. Which by the way, real quick and that comes from his parents, you mentioned this on the jabari one? This mom was a professional WNBA player. His dad, they both played at Washington. So comes from two parents, D one athletes, mom was a professional basketball player, another like, and I happened to in San Francisco when they were out there coincidentally, went to the same restaurant set at the it was a big old communal table set at the same table as his parents duke was obviously on an off day. I was watching Saint Peter's be Purdue actually. Seemed like a wonderful, wonderful family, wonderful group just, you know, a lot of that stuff Ben Carroll from a background check, if you will, seems like he'll pass with flying colors. Well, you go back to Colorado Springs, you know, years ago. And I sat with the dad and spent, you know, maybe 30, 40 minutes with the dad, and he was incredible. I was struck by. And I set with Paulo and he was incredible. And I was struck by, I don't know. They were just really impressive people, both of them. And I've never met the mother, but I've heard great things. Just come from a really strong family. Like really awesome core in place. And even Paula, so I spent some time with McDonald wrote a spring, and then I bumped into him at peach jam like last year. And he was like, oh yeah, I remember you, what's up? I don't know. He's just an impressive young guy. So all that stuff is gonna check out its positives. I believe, you know, no red flags there. In fact, it's interesting. Sometimes drafts you hear about, well, there's some red flags off the court stuff that might be concerned. With the guys we're talking about at the top of this draft, Chad holmgren, jabari Smith, Paulo Ben Caro, Jayden, ivy, Keegan Murray, like you don't hear any of that stuff to you, really? Not really. No, at least not to this point there. No, I've not heard. And Jay Navi's mother is the Notre-Dame basketball coach. She worked in the NBA. So you got a lot of strong parental stuff in place here, which is, I don't know, just notable because that stuff matters to front offices. Back to the offensive stuff, and then we'll get out of here. Like it's all there, except for the reliable three point shooter. Really? I mean, you know, a lot of you go back and watch film, it's a lot of drive spin, lay up, drop steps, like he really knows how to use his feet, get to where he's trying to get to. It could dribble, get to the mid range, that fadeaway jumper that you can close your eyes and see. I'm not comparing these as players, but like the Michael Jordan fadeaway jumper, the Kobe Bryant fadeaway jumper, the Kevin Durant one that LeBron is incorporated a little bit. Like Paula was making those shots at duke. He was an NBA shop maker. He's an NBA shop maker already. He can take it off the rim and start a break. You know, he can give it up, get it back, or he can go coast to coast. You know, finishing himself. Like everything on the offensive end is pretty much there. Except for a reliable three point shot. And if you're a believer that that's going to be there eventually and I think I am a believer in that because it looks fine and I'm assuming he'll put in the work. If it looks fine and to put in the work, you can become a really good three point shooter, then I mean, what are we talking about? If he really does go third in this draft, there's a chance you are getting you are getting a real steal at third in this draft. And you mentioned the franchises that are picking one, two, three. They're all in rebuilds. With young talent. So I don't think any of them are moving out of those spots because. If for some reason Golden State had a top three pick or some other franchise that is going for it right now because of a trade that happened two years ago or something, they might be looking to get out of this. But the franchises that are picking one two three are looking to add high level young talent. And so I'd be shocked if you see any trades at the top of this dress. Last thing for me is, first of all, three point shooting against the best competition, 16 out of his 39 games last season, Ben Carroll was a better three point shooter. Marginal but better. He was 35 and a half percent in 16 games from three. He was 33.8% on the season, which is still good. It's not like he was shooting 27 28%. 34% for the season in 39 games. And if you watch that duke tournament run, you know, he was, he was just so consistently him..

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"ben carroll" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

07:41 min | 2 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"And much credit for doing so. And I think said something to the effect of depending on how the season goes that they might be in the same place next season. I think it was alluding to the idea that like if they don't get, if they can't quite figure it out, they're perfectly content to have another year of pseudo tanking, outright tanking, whatever it is. Like they don't mind playing it out another year and with Victor women Yama on the board next year, maybe that's the better long play. But again, you do have a guy who could be a perennial all star, maybe if you were with a winning team in shig, you'll just Alexander. And so I wonder what their urgency is. And based on that, I wonder, what does that do for, how does that influence the guy that they might pick at two? And does it influence how much does it influence whether that pick is actually just in play? Is it time for the thunder to finally make that move to win in the present? The number two pick seems like it could be pretty valuable. What do you think of whether their best play is homegrown and this continued slow build and what your thoughts are on how long it'll be before homegrown is really an impactful NBA player. And the quandary, I feel like quandary that now faces the thunder about present versus future. Yeah, well, you know, I would fully expect them to be bad again. Just because I'm there that it became that I'm already hearing like most connected as far as really wants to live in Yama. Obviously that's like a year away. But again, it's just something about how good he is that we're talking about ammunition as much as any player in this trap already. But, you know, I do think that's probably on their mind. I think it's an interesting question to ask. That's how you draft this year impact or is it impacted by the possibility of getting that guy next year? I don't think you can bank on it ever. But you have to keep in mind that if it's under really want him, say they wind up like four, they can still be like, hey, team in just one. We'll give you all 12 of these restaurant picks and this number four pick. And let me not say, but we'll give basically make the most attractive offer ever in terms of draft picks. Because they have something to grapple with. So if they want to do that and they think that's the guy, they can try. They still might hear a no, which is how good the guy is, but I think that's probably the nuclear option if they don't wind up where they want. So with the guard of this pick, I'm sure they'll make it. It's just a matter of, I think, how much do you believe in in homegrown? I think there's two ways of looking at it, like on one hand, they are the most patient team. They can take the most risks, they can give home and the most time and developmental space to see what he can become and kind of stretch it on the flip side, even they kind of tried that with chevsky, who is not as good a player as chat, but there are definitely different opinions as to what he will be east of our young. But another weird player, like they're not afraid to do that, but they have so much emphasis in size on the perimeter. And I think Ben Carroll is probably everybody would probably agree that you can more confidently say that Ben Carroll is going to be able to play on the perimeter. And chat because he's a little bit slow footed. Like he's super skilled, but it's just like, I don't think he's going to take guys off the dribble and shoot pull up jumpers and those types of things. I just don't know that he'll do that. I think his application practically is more like a prison gift. Where you know he's heading the train, he can pick and pop, you're hoping to go make some decisions. As a passer and can be that kind of like, you know, great defensive player who also gives you a variety of looks on offense. But I also wonder if Ben Carroll and also his the immediate production he's going to get. And I also wonder if I kind of go back and forth on this, but some of the concerns about bed care is essentially. Is that overblown? He guards okay. He's just not going to be a room protector. Right. But I think you can argue that both ways for that number two, if we assume Smith is gone. So I think there are definitely going to be a fascinating team and I put chat there in the first mock, but ten minutes later, I was like, is that really what they're going to do? I honestly, I'm so sort of trying to decide myself what I think will happen. In that case. How big a risk do you think holmgren is? I mean, I know we get this we go round and round in these things with these discussions about like, you know, there's the obvious you can't teach size and then you can't teach size with skill attached to it and rim protection and all these things that we know are very valuable and at the same time, well he's skinny. Okay, yeah, but he could grow into it. Well, not everybody does grow into it, not everybody does pack on the extra muscle, not everyone is bodies are built to do that. And we have a long history in the draft of teams getting obsessed with size early on in the draft process or just feeling like I can not pass this guy up because the value of a 7 footer with either rim protection or perimeter skills or some combination thereof in the modern era. It's an allure that's almost impossible to pass up, but we've got a long history of the darko milicic and others. And it's not, I get it. Homegrown will grow into his body. I get it. He's young. I understand all that. But man, at a glance you look at him and it does feel like there's some risk involved here. How much risk do you think there is? Yeah. So I think I've been lower on him than the general consensus all season. And I've seen all the top guys play multiple times. That's how I check play twice, which is a little bit less than the other top guys. I've seen them all play a lot. So I'm very familiar. I just think the first thing is that some people get mad online when you're like, oh, he's skinny, but I don't think that's a reductive thing. It's like you have to talk about that because the way that I put it is it's just his body type is like not only part of why he might fail but also part of why he's so good, right? So it's like you can't really take it out of how you talk about them because, you know, his length and his mobility is a plus, but then it's like, hey, how much weight can be put on B, do you want him to put on that much weight? Because if he loses his mobility, then that really reduces his chances of being impactful on defense, right? Because right now we hope that he can switch a little bit and give you some type of defensive scheme versatility. But if he can't switch, if he's not quite quick enough to switch on to everybody, or at least situationally, and you're kind of having him drop back towards the room and play the more conservative style, well he's not like he's big, but guys know that if you get into his body, you can bump them back, right? It's not like you're driving it. Rudy go bear and you're like, oh shit, what do I do? Like, suddenly right here, and he's been on this. It's not that type of body, right? So I think there's probably a difference opinion here's how big you think I'll be defensively. So I think there is some risk in that if he's not like a totally monstrous interior defender like you might have to plan more like how to bucks play honest where he kind of roves around on the weak side and you guys can't see him and then he comes and gets the ball because he has a great timing. I don't think he's going to be bad. I don't think he's necessarily a bust. But the other thing and this is not a specific issue or what I have been talking about this too is it's almost about 7 footers come with injury risk just because of the stretch that you're putting on your body and to his credit plays more physically than you'd think. He's not afraid to try to mix it up, but he's not going to win a lot of those battles in the NBA. It's just not if he's a 190 pounds, right?.

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"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

05:43 min | 3 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

"Watch it live on YouTube, please smash the like button like your brain and Dave. You have consent. When it comes to the like button, you always have consent. There's more of us than there are of them. Strong job. You had an interesting. What's up? How are you? You good? I'm good. Good. Had a long weekend feeling refreshed. I'm growing some hair on my head. Congratulations. Happy Monday. It's a great Monday. It's so far so good. I can't complain about this Monday. You had an interesting story. Recently, detailing some of the college players who have announced they're in the 2022 NBA draft, but also announced that they are considering withdrawing by the deadline and returning to school. You have ten players listed. So as you know, not a lot happened over the weekend in the sport of college basketball, no real notable news, but I did think this list was interesting and would give us, as they say in the business content. So we'll just pop right through it and talk through your list. And you started it with a player that I think has an interesting situation. And somebody honestly, I didn't think about more than two times the entire college basketball season. Patrick Baldwin junior, you rewind a few years and really maybe even just one year. And there was a debate in industry circles about who could be the number one pick of the 2022 NBA draft and it'd be like Paula benkei, who was mistaken for Patrick Mahomes this weekend. How about that? That's pretty tough. What a ridiculous situation that was. So it was like either Paolo Ben Carroll could be the number one pick or maybe Patrick Mahomes. Ched holmgren. And then Patrick Baldwin junior was kind of in that conversation. As most people know, he is a 5 star prospect who went to Milwaukee to play for his father. He had offers from among others duke. So this is a guy who could have gone anywhere he wanted to go, decided to play for his dad, which I think made sense at the time. Your dad's on the so called hot seat, you can save his job, get him a contract extension, dominate your league, protect your draft status, and then enter the 2022 NBA draft. That was conceptually how it was supposed to go. It didn't work out that way at all. Barely played because he dealt with the injury. When he did play, wasn't great. Milwaukee stonk, dad still got fired. And now he's trying to figure out what to do. Do you have him as a projected first round pick right now? Because I do. And from my perspective, I don't want to say that's the cutoff. Like you could do any of these players can do whatever they want to do. We'll have no impact on my life whatsoever. But if he's a projected first round pick steel, I think I'd lean toward probably just getting on with my professional life. But if he were somebody who's going to slip into the second round, I could make the argument that doing a second year of college at a big boy program and proving that you got caught in a not ideal situation, but that you're still a high level prospect who was talked about in the same sentences as homeground and Ben Carroll just about a year ago. This is one that I could actually see going either way. Yeah, you go back to the end of 2020, in fact, and Patrick Baldwin junior was the number one recruit in his class. In the same class which had holmgren with palaban Caro Patrick Baldwin was that dude, we were talking about this guy as a potential number one pick. And a lot has happened with Paul won junior mostly, mostly bad. He had an ankle injury, his senior season in high school played only a few games and that was it. Slid down to, you know, I think he finished as the number 8 recruit in his high school recruiting class. So really, still a blue chip recruit, people thought he was still on the lottery radar. I had him as a lottery pick coming into the year. Only played in 11 games with Milwaukee, and even at Milwaukee, it wasn't just that he only played in 11 games. Is that in those 11 games he wasn't he wasn't a superstar, right? I mean, he shot 26.6% from three average 12.1 points per game. Had another ankle injury missed most of the year. And, you know, I think typically with the recruit like this, most of the time you just, even if it's a shortened season, you just go to the NBA, you know you're gonna be a first round pick. I'm not so sure now, given what has happened the last two years and how his seasons have ended prematurely, that he is a first round pick. I have him number 37 on the big board. So right now, that is outside my first round projection. I think he is an interesting case in that I would like to see him come back to school to prove, hey, I can be healthy for a full season and to prove that he is still legit, like a 5 star blue chip NBA first rounder, because what we saw at Milwaukee, obviously he's a prototype shooter, he's 6 foot 9, great size, great range. And I think everything about his game screams NBA, but we just haven't quite seen him perform at the level that we've seen previous to the injuries. And I think that's why I have a number one is I think his situation is so fascinating because right now if he's going to the portal or he's going to stay in the NBA draft. He's not coming back to him and there's been some rumors about maybe North Carolina..

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"ben carroll" Discussed on Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

01:57 min | 3 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

"And I know that that doesn't sound like the sexiest thing to pick at the top. I get that. But this roster has absolutely no off ball shooting. It's really, I mean, mo bamba was probably their second best, best off Wall Street outside of Terrence Ross. So getting them shooters, I think it makes everybody better. It helps them on defense and hopefully he can grow into a creator of his own because they really just don't have outside of Franz. They really don't have a front court creator unless I'm absolutely drawing a blank here. Kind of window Carter. I guess he developed there, but again, not to the level I see jabar growing into. All right, let's say, I mean, let's based off the word, let's say Houston takes bank Carol number one. I'm sorry, Houston takes Joe Biden number one. And so you're saying Paulo would be your second choice there? Yeah, and it gets a little bit trickier there because again, your bari just fits like a glove into every single team. Like when you have an elite off ball player and a really good defender, and it's hard not to put them on all 30 teams and say he works. He works even like Phoenix or something. You could fit him in obviously where they have a tighter rotation and a lot of depth. I really like Paolo too, my worry is just, will he take touches away and will that cause? And I don't have an issue personally with that. It's just kind of the effect of that of will that cause a rift in development and chemistry, whatever it is, having too many cooks in the kitchen. That's going to happen regardless. That's why I'm not that hesitant on taking power. Yeah, because even I think if you take jabbar, I mean, he's still number two. So I mean, I mean, I would make him their highest guy that they've drafted, which means you have to assume that he could be the guy, which I don't know. I mean, that's why you're in charge here. That's why I'm putting you in charge. All right, before I get into more questions about what the magic should do if Ben Carroll is their pick. I want to talk to the audience about prize picks. And if you've been listening, then you know about price fix..

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"ben carroll" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

02:27 min | 4 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo

"That is a culture thing, how much of that is a coaching thing. Or what, but ultimately, we've kind of seen this before sometimes, though. With college prospects who aren't locking in, aren't putting an effort, then in the NBA, they become tremendous defensive players. Another duke guy, I think about Jayson Tatum, one of the concerns about Tatum coming out of duke was, well, he's got the length and he's got the size and he shows flashes on defense, but it's the consistency's not there and all that. With Ben carro, it's similar. In the NBA does Ben Carroll show, oh, this is why the 6 foot ten mobile 252 150 pound guy can actually defend three, four positions. And an NBA atmosphere, maybe it turns into that for him. But that's the conversations I'm having with people about Ben Carroll on defense right now is culture fit, situation, coaching, that roster, what's the best fit for him to get the most out of him? Because he's fourth on my mock. Third of my board right now in my heart, like I said before the season, he was number one on my board. And I guess I'm kind of looking for reasons to move him back up. Where I'm kind of out with bank Harold because there's so much offensive talent. There's so much shot creation. If that shot can go from like 30% from three, 70% from the free throw line and he can become a far more efficient perimeter score, that's going to open up everything for him on offense because his shock creation doesn't even remind you of old Blake Griffin a little bit. You know, late clippers Blake, the Detroit Blake Griffin with that one great all star season he had. He reminds me a little bit of that kind of more ground bound Blake Griffin. There's so much there. I want to look at his shot chart stuff 'cause sometimes when I'd watch him, I felt like he got a little perimeter happy, but then as soon as I started wondering that, you know, writing down like, hey check shock chart, check trends and some of this stuff. And then I'd be like, yeah, but when he takes you down there and decides to bring it to the hoop. Nobody's stopping that. You know, that little kind of one 80 pivot that he would do, but then he kind of finished in different ways around the rim too, so like it wasn't just that he was overpowering everybody, which I hate with some of these AAU guys that like, oh, you just dribbled through everybody because you were fucking huge. Awesome. And then you'd never figure out a way to adapt to it. Like he already had counters with different things. So I don't know. All right, you have AJ going to the kings. Yep,.

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"ben carroll" Discussed on Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

05:18 min | 4 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on Chad Ford's NBA Big Board

"I look at Chet stats and I did a behind the numbers video on him a few weeks back, he gets a good chunk of his points and transition as like the transition trailer or dribbling into transition three pointers at the top of the key. And then he gets a few of his points from offensive rebound. So with Memphis, athletes, physical players, he wasn't able to get those two to three offensive rebound putbacks that he normally gets. And then he missed all three of his three point attempts. I don't remember if all of them were in transition, but once you take those away from him, he has to be set up for his punch. You have to give him a lob. And I think that that was a little bit concerning for me. Because he didn't have any advantages on the offensive end. But also you can say maybe he's deferring because drew Timmy is clearly their best player. But I also think that guarding Timmy and practice probably has made him a better defender just because, you know, drew has so many up fakes, pivots, and so on. And I think with him being probably patient, garden Timmy just using his lymph, it makes it much easier to guard a Jalen durand who's not going to have as many counters. So like I said earlier, I think both showed some good flashes, but there are some things that kind of stood out that make me a little bit concerning. Yeah, so at the end of the day, it's interesting to me. I kind of came away from the game saying, kind of 50 50, right? I don't necessarily think this helped the stock, but I don't think it hurt it either. But it has been interesting just talking to a few NBA guys that it seems to have spooked them a little bit more than I thought it would Dern as well, which again, I think both of them may be spooked and be a guy a little bit more than I thought where I kind of came away with this is it's a wash. And then you got Ben carro. So now let's face it. Duke has to get by Texas tech. That's no easy feat, especially the way duke's been playing lately. I'm not totally confident that they get to that elite 8 matchup. Gonzaga is also struggled a little bit and they're going to have to get past Arkansas and this Jalen Williams Chet homegrown matchup certainly seems like it could be an interesting one as well. But I want to think about Bon Caro and talk about Ben care for a minute. It may not happen, but we did get to see them once in November play each other. They played each other in high school, but these two guys came into the season. They're the number one guys in the draft. They're going to be the guys that are most likely to be number one. Jabari Smith, junior, and to lesser extent, Jay naive have crashed that conversation a bit. You've been on team banquero all year. And I haven't been. I think he's a good player. I think he's a top four pick, but this is an area where you and I have disagreed. Matt, it was tough for me 'cause I thought Ben Carroll looked really good this weekend. He looked the part more than anybody of the number one pick in the draft. And if duke and Gonzaga match back up in the elite 8 again, I kind of have a feeling that this could be Ben carros game. Well, I've been biased all year. So I'm not shocked because I feel like out of the three bigs. He's the one guy that I feel the most comfortable with that I can give him the ball and he's going to either get me a bucket, draw a file, create a look for someone else or at least get a good shot. And so I think that, you know, if the game is on the line, I feel more comfortable with Ben Carroll having the ball. Now drew could be, I'm sorry, chat could just be deferring because it is in a sense drew Timmy's team. So maybe he won't have that same that same opportunity, but I felt like he kind of shied away from the ball as the game got close. And then with Ben Carroll, he made big plays down the stretch on both ends of the floor. He's starting to see a little bit of the passing that I've been praising all year. I think he had four cysts, but I'd say he could have had sex. I think I know there was one where kills kind of missed the layup, but got the offering to rebound, put it back and I think there was one that Mark Williams kind of bobbled. But I like him as an interior passer. He has good chemistry with Mark Williams. And I just think that he is this weapon that you can give the ball to the post. He can knock down threes. Look, he's not the most consistent, but he shot the ball well from three. And then the passing just opens everything up for duke. So I'm happy because I've been pushing this band Carol bandwagon. So if he would have had a bad game, I know social media on Twitter would have my mentions would have been in shambles because either you like duke or you hate doing it so it's kind of tough. It's interesting because I also think Bon Caro is in a unique situation with four other guys that.

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"ben carroll" Discussed on ESPN Daily

ESPN Daily

05:49 min | 4 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on ESPN Daily

"Yeah, no, it feels like he's peaking. And that's not like, it's not a pejorative in this circumstance, although I understand that it must feel that way at times because we just haven't had that guy Tim. Not like this, like the whole, I want to be the face of college basketball. Like that guy does not want to really exist anymore because of the way that the NBA has lured and the G league and all of the overtime leagues, all of these new upstart kind of startup deals have been taking talent away from the game. They have. And we talk about his deal with the casino being the NCAA's worst nightmare. Well, he's really on the court. He's their dream, right? I mean, he is someone that people can recognize, right? That's the problem with college basketball is the recognition factor. We know how good Chet holmgren is, but we also know that we're not going to see him in a Gonzaga uniform next year. You know, during from Memphis, Ben Carroll from duke, I mean, we can appreciate them in the moment, but there's no carryover. That's smart on their part. Trust me, they should not come back to school. But this guy is for college basketball. He's a dream. He's someone that you can either love, you can hate, but you know he's gonna be there. He's there for three years and you develop sort of this weird sporting fan relationship with a guy that way. That is becoming very, very rare in college basketball. It's a version of college basketball that I love and the question after that is like, what happens when he leaves? Tim, because drew Timmy, we don't know if he's going to declare for the NBA draft after this season. We don't know if he's going to return to Gonzaga yet. But from a personality standpoint, yeah, I'm confident in drew Timmy being a hit in the league. But what do you think his game on the court's going to be like as a pro? Well, he has deficiencies. And I think that they're mostly foot speed. He has some questions about whether he can be an on ball defender against quicker, tall guys in the NBA. The other issue is his outside shooting, which to be fair, he just hasn't had to use very much when he does, he's not terrible. He's a decent shooter. And you know, he acknowledges again the king of self awareness. He acknowledges that these are things that the NBA teams have questions about. And he says that he has gone out of his way to work on these things as a way of showing these teams that he is willing to work on the things that as he puts it, I suck at. Coming out of high school, people so I want to be a good college player. I think people overlook production and just the consistency. Now I get it. I don't have the biggest wingspan or I can't touch the top corner of the backboard, you know? I'm probably not the sexiest combine guy around, but I'm a big team guy. Obviously, I'm not going to have the same role here as I would in the league if I'm fortunate enough to play there. You know, I take it from German O'Neil who obviously has a bias because he's one of his agents and he also was his coach in AAU in high school. Former NBA center Jermaine O'Neal, yeah. He has seen drew Timmy dominate guys who are in the NBA right now. And he says without reservation, drew Timmy is a first round draft pick. He's gonna be a good NBA player. And you know, I mean, I'd like to believe that. I don't know that I believe that, but I think it would be next to him coming back next year, which I think would be the most hilarious thing in college sports in the last probably 20 years. I think that him going in and having a really solid NBA career and exceeding expectations would be would be kind of fun to watch. I'd like to see that personality and how it flies at that level. Yeah, a big part of me admittedly does want your Timmy to just become the van wilder of Spokane. Just like never leave. And on that note, I mean, he's not done yet, right? I mean, Gonzaga's gonna play number four Arkansas on Thursday night if they win that game. They're gonna play the winner of Texas tech and duke in the elite 8 and from there they'll probably have to get through UCLA or Carolina to get to the championship game. And on the other side of the bracket, you have Arizona and Kansas, their fellow number one seeds. Like this road is tough, Tim, like this is a really hard path to win that first ever national title. So what would it mean to drew Timmy to lead Gonzaga to it? Well, I think first off it would be validation, right? It'd be validation for him and coming back. It would be sort of a sign that his trust in Mark few and this program was warranted. I think it would also probably improve his draft stock. If he does what he did against Memphis and continues to will this team to a national championship, they're going to have to take notice. They're going to have to see that there's something about this guy that is, you know, I hate to use the word intangible because he does a lot of tangible things, but there's just a part of him that is more than what you see. You know, on a side note, I just want to see him saddle up to his perhaps last game, you know? A couple seats from the bench an hour and a half before the game and start talking about the weather and see how well it goes over. Yeah, Tim, I don't know if coach K is gonna stroke drew Timmy's mustache. I don't think he's either. I don't think he's gonna have a conversation about coffee either, but we'll see. Tim Kieran, as always, thanks for joining us. Thank you, Pablo. It's fun. I'm Pablo Torre..

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7th-seed Virginia Tech upsets Duke, Coach K for ACC title

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00:31 sec | 5 months ago

7th-seed Virginia Tech upsets Duke, Coach K for ACC title

"Virginia Tech spoiled matches have skis last ACC tournament by upsetting Duke eighty two sixty seven in the final tournament MVP hunter could Torah scored thirty one points hitting seven of nine three point attempts to lead the Hokies their fourth win four nights in their first ever ACC title have a limited nineteen points and ten rebounds for Virginia Tech which went on a run with six minutes to go in the first half to take a lead it never relinquished and guarantee a spot in the NC double a tournament follow Ben Carroll led Duke with twenty points Tom Marion New York

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"ben carroll" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

04:11 min | 6 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

"All right, so national player of the year. It's kind of ever changing. I feel like it's all like the flavor of the day, almost so much as anything else, right? I kinda was ready to flip to Oscar. She would, the other day. And then last night, Johnny Davis goes into Bloomington. Has another monster game. I mean, you saw this in Mackie. Like what he did at Mackie was insane. He carried the whole team and he did it last night against the last two minutes. He had struggled a little bit over the last two or three weeks, shooting the ball, but he's got to be in the conversation. I mean, 30 on Houston, 37 on Peru, which he did last night. I think he's in the combo. She boys in the combo. EJ Liddell, he did it at Michigan. He's got to be in the conversation. He's doing it on both ends too. You're talking about a dude. I think he's the most underrated. I think he's totally agree with you. He deserves to be talked about as one of the elite players. Like, I just feel like maybe because Ohio State hasn't been world beaters this year. They're good. On the roads they've had their struggles. They've kind of been alternating winning and losing over the last 8 games, but he take him away from that team and they are very just full of role players and pretty average in my opinion. With the injuries. I mean, no justice suing us, that sounds. Right. I think we've talked a lot about how Brad Underwood has been plugging holes Chris holdman has to. He's been doing the same thing. Yep. Keegan Murray, I think you could make the argument for now the problem is Iowa has no quadro lens. Right. So I think that part of giving in order to be national player of the year you've got to be on a team that is a least contending in your conference race. Apollo, Ben Carroll, I think Timmy or hongren, depending on how that pans out over the last.

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"ben carroll" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

05:27 min | 6 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

"Agreed. But I think that with the way that Chen is playing, if he continues to do that, he will find his way into the national player of the year conversation. And they're perfect for each other. I mean, they really do. They play off each other about as well. I was there again, I talked to Timmy for a while, I talked to chip for a while. And drew understood, again, how they be able to play off one another so well, especially with Jeff being able to make shots from the perimeter. That's the huge part. We didn't know if Chet would be a low 30s, three point shooter this year or not. He's gotten confidence with that, starting to take it more, but not falling in love with it either. Right. No, I agree. He plays off the clothes out. He makes good decisions. He can finish with either hand around the rim. I mean, I think Chet holmgren has only helped himself here. And there's a lot of guys that have helped themselves. I think the talk of who will be the number one pick is fascinating. Because I think jabari Smith has had a great year. Follow Ben Carroll has had a great year. Ted holmgren has had a great year. Jade and ivy has exploded into that conversation. I think that that you could go a lot of different ways and there's a lot of crazy talent in this draft at the top end. And we haven't thrown the name and I don't know if he'll be in the draft, but shaden sharp, the kid who enrolled earlier, Kentucky is not playing this year, which would lead me to believe that I would think that then he'll play next year, right? You would think, I mean, otherwise Cal's not holding him out. He's going to play him this year. So in his mind, yes, I think Cal's thinking that way. But when it comes down to it and an MBA agent tells this kid, hey, you're gonna be a top 5 pick, which I think he would be. Yeah..

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Griffin hits 5 3s, No. 6 Duke beats Syracuse 79-59

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00:40 sec | 7 months ago

Griffin hits 5 3s, No. 6 Duke beats Syracuse 79-59

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"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

04:50 min | 7 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

"And it was four and two in the first two quadrants with a quadrant three loss until Miami murdered North Carolina on Tuesday night and jumped in the net enough to make that home loss to the hurricanes that duke suffered a quad two loss instead of a quad three laws. I think duke's good. If you told me to put together a list of teams, you know, 6, 7, 8 deep that can win the national championship. I would have duke on that list. But this deep into the season as we've talked about a million times, I'm mostly gonna rank you based on what you've actually done. I'm not trying to outsmart the results of games. Like, you played a bunch of games. Have you done? And they've done well, but not as well as 5 other teams in the country. Ten other teams in the country. Maybe not even 15 other teams in the country. Again, three and two and quadrant one one and one in quadrant two, so four and three in the first two quadrants. I'll tell you what was concerning to me and it has become a trim with this duke team is they don't rebound the ball at all. I mean, Florida state grabbed 19 offensive rebounds against duke. Miss 47 shots grab 19 offensive rebounds. That's an offensive rebounding rate of 40.4. That's outrageous. Now Kentucky leads the country in offensive rebounding rate at 40.2. So what Florida state get against duke is better than what Kentucky has done against its schedule and Kentucky leads the nation in offensive rebounding percentage. So Florida state was awesome against duke, but some of it was duke was terrible against Florida state, as has been the case for much of the season. Duke's defensive rebounding percentage is 29.8. I know he's never don't mean anything to some people, but for some context understand that ranks 237th in the country. It's a flaw. Perhaps a fatal flaw. Because what it led to last night is Florida state grabbing 12 more offensive rebounds than duke. And then additionally, Florida state turned it over ten fewer times than duke. And that led to a deal where Florida state took 18 more shots than duke. 73 to 55. And the seminoles also took 7 more free throws than duke. 25 to 18. So if you're wondering how Florida state one, despite shooting just 35.6% from the field, while duke shot 49.1% of the fail, that's it. The civil said way more scoring opportunities. Like in a 40 minute game, if you're going to take 18 more shots than your opponent, your opponent is going to have a hard time beating you. And that's what happened a Tuesday night in Tallahassee and that's something that duke's got to get cleaned up. They can still be really good despite these things. They have been. But with those things, I think it becomes difficult to be elite consistently and avoid courting like the one they endured last night. My closing thoughts on this are have to give it up to rate one Evans who hit just a phenomenal running off the glass layup to even get this to the bonus session and then actually Evans Bond up hitting the clinching foul shots to secure the wind for Florida state. But he's a really solid player. And I know F is two fans are quite familiar with how important he's been in spots across the season and last. But yeah, that shot to even get it over Mark Williams and to get this game to OT was such a tough shot in a really, really good one. And then duke loses because that goes in and we get it to a bonus session and then Wendell Moore just didn't have a great shot. Ben Carroll didn't even get it to Ben Carroll in the final possession. I don't know if that would have made a difference or not, but Ben Caro, you know, the more he's involved the better they are, they had been Carol feeding Williams, you know, from 16, 17, 20 feet out a couple times last night and I thought that was really successful there. So good on that for you. You're in the conversation. Plenty of work to do. I don't know for sure if this team's going to the tournament or not, but I do know you need to win that game against duke to really give yourself a chance and now they got a chance. Next up for Florida state, Thursday's game. They're stepping out of the ACC to get a game with north Florida. Next up for duke, Saturday's game with a Syracuse team that's now 9 and 9 on the season after Tuesday's win over Clemson. If anything has got a chance of solving the world's problems, its science and technology. And every breakthrough was the result of somebody doing the breaking through. I'm David pogue. This is unsung science. The.

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Coach K back, No. 8 Duke rolls inside to beat NC State

AP News Radio

00:42 sec | 7 months ago

Coach K back, No. 8 Duke rolls inside to beat NC State

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No. 5 Duke holds off No. 1 Gonzaga for 84-81 victory

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00:32 sec | 9 months ago

No. 5 Duke holds off No. 1 Gonzaga for 84-81 victory

"Follow Ben Carroll scored twenty one points to lead number five Duke over top ranking jacket eighty four eighty one the Bulldogs clawed back from a nine point second half deficit to take the lead but the blue devils closed on a thirteen nine run Wendell Moore junior scored twenty points and Mark Williams added seventeen with nine rebounds for the blue devils do took control of the seventeen six run after the zags scored the game's first four points Julian Strother leg inside with a career high twenty points and ten rebounds due to me added seventeen points and Chet Holmgren had sixteen points for the zags I'm Dave Ferrie

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"ben carroll" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

Game Theory Podcast

05:50 min | 10 months ago

"ben carroll" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast

"And I anticipate starting and I think that's a fair shot for you to shoot though. You're not saying thanks Christy. Yeah, Ben Carroll. This trend Homer and Jane hardy's fourth. You don't say anything extreme like that, but it could be in consideration to be a first round guy and climb his way up with a few solid performances. It's gonna take this freshman lumps. He's gonna have to adjust the college game and playing a little bit more within himself, but very smart kid, hard worker. He has all the things that the characteristics you look for and that role in that type of player in the NBA. Okay. Bryce McGowan's is next 6 foot 7, almost like combo guard more than wing right now. Would you agree? Yes, I would. Just big, though. And I kind of mentioned it at the top of the podcast that I think he's another like real swing guy because I could see a world where under that Fred hoiberg wide open, offensive style, they have some shooters as well on that Nebraska roster this year. That it just looks really good and he averages like 16 6 and three assists per game. And is like a very clear one and done. That's like a top 20 pick. Or I could see a world where he averages like 15 points a game and shoots 38% from the field and it doesn't quite look as good as what the counting numbers say because he just has some problems with efficiency from time to time. He's about a 175 pounds at 6 foot 7, ballpark it there. Yeah. People have seen practice the last couple weeks. He's a little bit bigger, but still very slender. Yeah, very, very slender guy. And plays a brand of basketball that is completely fearless. He is the person initiating contact. His father, if I remember correctly, he's a football player or was a football player at Clemson. Something like that for the brothers background, but that would explain the mentality. His attacking mentality, if you will. Yeah, so like completely fearless really like initiates contact doesn't just absorb contact. Actually struggles to absorb it right now because he is so skinny throughout his core and just doesn't have that strength yet. But he plays with a level of toughness that I really like to see from a potential shot creating scoring styled player. I like the jumper mechanics. He just has a natural bend and doesn't have enough lower half involvement like the release is very clean and he gets good rotation on the ball. I think it's just gonna take a little bit of time. And the question is just like, does it happen this year for Bryce McGowan's or does it happen next year two years? I don't know, but I think he's definitely an NBA player a long term. It's just what when does it happen basically to where it's most valuable for him to be, you know, to go through to the NBA draft, I guess. At 6 foot 6, a high level athlete, he was a top 25 recruit 5 star across most recruiting services. And it was also a nice game of chess by the Nebraska staff. His brother Trey was at pet transfers in Nebraska. Bryce was actually one time committed to Florida state de commits and commits the huskers for once a lifetime opportunity post brother. First Mark, you had two for the price of one. I don't mean that literally. So he pushes the ball ahead really well too to cover ground and can make his own offense off the dribble..

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