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"Intergalactic" by Beastie Boys (w/ Josh Gondelman)

Punch Up The Jam

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"Intergalactic" by Beastie Boys (w/ Josh Gondelman)

"This is a head gum podcast. I'm back. Thanks coming back with me. I have so many things to tell you aren't in this episode hence this weird intro first and foremost I moved to New York for now. We'll see let me go back. I go somewhere else. Iceland seems cool but for now I'm in New York which means yes Marissa his not in the studio however she is still editing this so I will still be calling out her name all all the time why because I love saying Meriva and I hope she adds in something of her right here. You'll was a so Marissa's not engineering me in room room for this episode in this episode alone. There's an engineer named Tom so when you hear a random man come on Mike. That's Tom Moving forward. I don't think probably there will be a producer talking on air but that could change its journey. We're on together. The second thing I want to tell you it's just about changing the format a little bit I get into this in the episode of teeny any bit but a new thing I'm doing now is that the punch-ups are not happening in episode. The PUP now is going to go at the very end of the the episode. It will send it out because well. I explained what on the episode. I don't even tell you why but anyway. The point is stay tuned to the very end of the episode. If you want to hear what I did to this song and I think you are going to want to hear what I did and I think that's it so I guess the next thing to say is uh it's time for the tail arched. Welcome to the see I knew episode of Pup the Jam with me me L. Brito that will probably feel normal eventually to say without a second person. I'm really excited cited to have Josh gunman here with me today but before I introduce him. I want to say that there's GonNa be a couple little tweaks to the format and they will be as follows not every episode is going to have a punch up why because of two things one. I want guests to be able to come on and talk about a song that just fucking rips. I don't always want to have to criticize it so sometimes I feel like if we want actually analyze and unpublishable jam what could we I them possibly due due to it to make it better so that opens the floodgates for that and the second thing is that I feel like it would be really fun to lay in the punch-ups after we've recorded for two reasons again one now it's a surprise guest hassles into their own episodes like at one more or less than and two if we stumble upon the correct approach to the punch-up now we're not okay. Here's some random parody. I did last week right so anyway. Those are the main two tweaks. It'll be a couple of other wants but you're going to have to keep fucking listening to find out. How should we introduce the guest. Okay Josh Listen. Did I change the theme song or the Guest Intro Song. Maybe did I decide aside. What is no do. I have a playlist of royalty free music. That happened to my computer. Yes let's try this one perfect. It feels more like you know. This is correct his brand new book Nice. Try It does stand up as a writer at writer the writer writer-producer as a writer producer on these in Maryland and previously last week tonight and and maybe even he was your former preschool teacher. It's Gone Ella. Thank you so much for having me out. I guess on the new four right pleasure. They're also I literally. This week have been getting instagram. DM's from former preschools now like just old enough to be like people in the world like they're. They're like they've instagram's. Dave instagram's are too young for me to like be friends with but it's very sweet that they've been like we saw. Tell you on the Emmy's. It was so cute. It's truly the cutest thing and I don't mean that as a humble brag at like really made my week that that they sent me a little bit of like we used to be your students. What did you respond with. It was just like Oh my Gosh Kim thank you so much. It's a sweet deal from you. I would probably hit him with like the double tap to like because his I feel like when you open the floodgates with childhood conversation. Sometimes you can't control it I do. I think they've been pretty respectful and I think that I mean that has been to a street so far and I think like if it goes further I have to be like I can't be your friend. It's like a definitively weird weird thing but like it's so cute and it's also kids who's like. It's a weird zone because their parents some of their parents our friends on facebook when I stop teaching so it's like a very funny I'm like directly in the middle of some of their ages whoa between the kid and the parents or like I think maybe a little closer to the parents and Simon a little kids and others personally. I feel like that's a great recipe for an existential crisis but yeah oh yeah you're not necessarily now now. It's on I feel far enough away from it that I'm like. This was another lifetime because you've been a comedian for quite some time now yeah and it was a comedian while I was teaching what I glad. I was not a fulltime obviously but still the fact that you could compartmentalize the parts of your brain that are required to be with children much less teaching UNCCHILDRENS. The Not swearing was definitely the hardest compartmentalizing part but some of it was really fun and good because I could leave preschool like well now. It's time to did you like for me out. Fuck Fuck Fuck they did that. There's a very real phenomenon with preschool teachers to just go somewhere and swear not not like not like a panic room but just as soon as you get a bunch of preschools uses out of the classroom they just start drinking like these fucking kids are like even we these fucking kids but just like my fucking week or like. Oh Shit the red sox. That's just where I'm from. These fucking dried out markers. Don't even they don't even smell like blueberries raspberries. It's it's very funny. All the many of the women I used to teach where are so sweet and talented and smart right and brilliant and wonderful educators patient and then we would get outside the classroom. Fuck me all. It's so funny right that show. I want to see the dark underbelly of preschool teaching. I want to see the teacher's lounge that the preschool very get drunk off of applesauce and Graham cracker. Hey Yeah ooh take a nap time right now sexy NAP ooh. That's the name of the show. It's like Riverdale Jitsu sexy for the teachers. The kids aren't sexy or very young listen. Josh I need to know everything there is to know about your relationship with intergalactic by the Beastie boys boys or is it beastie boys with Nova. I the Beastie Boys Eagles Eagles. That's my dad is he. Is that your dad. We did an episode recently and he corrected me every single time I always say the eagles. Yeah 'cause eagles is hard on my throat. It's weird the name of the band allegedly. No I feel no need to show them. The respect they demand hard veto yeah sorry Joe Joe and the other one Glenn Glenn Glenn to do was the other guy. Here's a debt now. I'm kidding. Tom Knows for sure boys north with ramones. No the talking heads no say in songs though they do. They're the Beastie boys not cheech and Chong right right yeah exactly but if you look at any of their records are it's just just be okay but but I feel like they're less prickly about the fucking Glenn Fryer whoever Yep okay so I feel like based on your sneaker game you like the Beastie Boys. I Yeah I love. I love Beastie boys as individuals. I love the Beastie boys as a collective and how do you feel about intergalactic specific. I love love. It and I think it's perfect. Oh my God yeah amazing I could not. I have no complaints. It delivers everything I want out of a Beastie boys song. Okay beastie boys sorry Beastie Boys. I have a lot of information here. I have to say full stop. I don't know a ton about Beastie beastie boys. I feel a little young. I was born in eighty nine so I feel like I remember intergalactic even that because I was oh I was wearing eighty-five so intergalactic head. I think it was ninety eight with him nasty yeah which was like sardines on the cover the first beastie boys record. I heard that I was like a formed enough person to be like here it on the radio. Put it together that I wanted. It wouldn't buy it at the store because I was like the music video to music videos great. There were several videos from it they they did there was body move in was a good video it was it was just like exactly in my wheelhouse for being a thirteen year old suburban. Joe It was like it was exactly what I needed. It like the universe provided the universe provided. Hello Nasty for me specifically not a believe that I have but if someone told me it was true I'd be like well further questions but it all checks out yeah yeah hello nasty. Thank you what a title is wow great. Hello Comma Nasty also didn't the cover look like Pablo hunting to you or is that just a little bit like Pablo honey but I was less aware of radiohead at that point right. I don't know I don't know how to explain my musical knowledge and the gaps therein Erin but for some reason I'm very familiar with radiohead despite being entirely too young for that and then Beastie boys just totally slipped my mind the color Palette though is also beastie boys or the BBC World. Someone tweet it might have been my friend. Matthew perpetuator about how like nobody under thirty thinks about or relates relates to the beastie boys at all but like people I'm thirty four like my age and older. There's a generation for whom there so formative yeah. I'm like so fully I'm a little young to be of that generation but like demographically it just hit me so perfectly yeah just being like a little Shit Jewish and and liking rap music a bump and grinding debrosse monkey just all like so I came so I came aimed. Hello Nasty. I like other things but this was the record than maybe like. Oh well we have to go listen to all of it now and go back from the beginning. Yeah licensed to Hell and positive which is my favorite questions girls boys. I was like a staple the middle school dancer. I am sure the one about Santa Claus a fat that wasn't them now. That was a few like in my head. It was definitely no effects oh brother. I wish I knew Oh. I don't know that one okay. I know Santa's GonNa mullet Dan. There is like a specific genre of music that no longer longer exists that I feel like be seaways for me fell exactly in two but I'm sure I'm incorrect. I don't be there early. Stuff fits more into it as just like that's like ironic shitty yeah yeah. I didn't realize this but according to Wikipedia they have sold twenty six million records in the US fifty million worldwide which makes makes them the biggest selling rap group since billboard began recording excels in ninety one. How can that be true that crazy right. I guess so here's some things things that I think feed into that. One is they were big when a ton of records still sold yeah right in a way that like before did rank missed list that doesn't sell albums the way that like the beastie boys did or even like fifty cent dead right in the early arts. Oh my God I'm so excited to start beef with drake and fifty cents now drake fifty cents. You're you're not the VCE voice every day. They wake up until themselves the same thing until you what I do the fifty seven. I are pretty different drinking pretty different so maybe they don't. I will say that when I used to visit New York. I would play the I get money in my head head. Every time I run New York ironically and then the other day on the subway actually heard someone playing that Oh yeah come. We don't listen to this right especially in New York in this way. It feels a little I know it's like ham fisted writing someone tweeted at me that they forgot headphones and they just bumped my audio book a subway train full speaker blasts and I was like I've made it in New York. It is the most successful I've ever felt the New Yorkers just someone rocking audiobook extreme new voices the MTA off everybody phones on the plus side the only time you've ever piss anyone off now congratulations saying oh brother. You're talking to me so like I talk about you. Oh well. We just thirty minutes ago. Give it time okay. The other other thing is that they're also one of the again according to Wikipedia. I will say one of the longest lived hip hop acts worldwide with seven platinum albums between nineteen eighty six and two thousand thousand four wow. That's a long time longtime. I couldn't believe this and then also they were one of the first bands who made MP three downloads available on their website. Yeah I remember remember that. That's like very cool. They're really cool. They do cool so like we were talking about. Girls Novelty semi ironic should he had music and they like grew away from that over time and got really into activism of like Tibetan liberation and after Woodstock Ninety nine yep address was really vocal at but I think that sexual assault sexual castles and stuff yeah and it's just like they and like in ninety eight thousand not all Muslims are terrorists like yeah you. Kinda were ahead of the game on that one really they. They became like really cool. Thoughtful adults odd at so inspirational yeah. I wrote a thing about them. That I think is going to be online's. What perfect timing have I have a lot about the beastie boys. There's like a a little chunk about them in the book but I I just I've been thinking about them a lot and when you were like what song that you WanNa talk about it. I was like Oh intergalactic by the beastie boys is like such a deeply formative song for me and also like this is the first New York episode and there's such a New York could call them a band tree. I think so they play instruments at times. Yeah and their voices are instruments. I'm moving on its off of as you said nineteen ninety eight's hello nasty won the grammy for best rap performance by a group or I'd just need you to know they beat out outcast Rosa Parks. I okay so this is another other thing that probably helped them sell so big so worldwide is like racism yeah like that. That's why they probably hold. Some of these records is just that like I think that the that that like not when white people do it yeah. I think that's what it is. When white people do it like us like fraught contrast but it's like when white people do it yeah because of prejudices it is like more has tall outcasts. Rosa parks outcast is another other untouchable jam it so it would never dare looking good will and they beat out ghetto superstar. No kidding. I mean they did but like imagine putting that on this I mean those are cast albums. Were so good. I mean iconic in a way that I'm not sure has ever been touched since like I. It's maybe a good thing they stopped making music because like how could you you being anyways the beastie boys and outcast like two of the music groups that I am so grateful to have seen live that became you did identity yeah like fifteen southern lady. I saw outcast when I think it was when their greatest hits album came out because they had killer. Mike came came out before he was killer. Mike we now and he did his voice. I think he came on and did his verse the whole world that which was originally for a long time it's still goes and so I saw them that summer as part of like a like like a festival or like it wasn't like a real. It wasn't like a Lollapalooza festival is just like seven bands in a row and it was like outkast fender bender the outcasts closed and the roots went on before them and it was just like blew my mind at my head and then after after the rates went on a couple came from back and this is like I just finished high school I think and they a couple came from the front to the back on the way out and we're like we came for the roots. We have fourth row tickets. Go Watch watch outcasts from the four hundred and so we got to see outcast like close enough where you could see like the movement of Andre Three as he moved across the stage is wrong with so great. Would you leave it was so good and then I saw the Beastie boys in college. I imagine one of their last tours it it must have been like oh six and they had their openers were Tim Cawley who is very good yeah and also also like a semi ironic dog show that was just like dogs doing tricks like Ns circus type atmosphere they did because it was like funny. I didn't know I needed that until right now me and my friend my friend. Dan Who I've mentioned already has he was with us. It was like a bunch of my childhood friends. I think caught my my call. Jimmy Your Mate Sam and Dan's brother James younger brother Steve was there when they were while the dogs were to go the stage losing because by what the going on imagine like frying on Assad's dogs doing tricks how many breeds by the way we know like less than ten more than ten less than ten see so quality over quantity. I love the direction of this show. The two incredibly to experience. I'm incredibly grateful for their set was great and then the encore the the lights went down and they're one of the bands that like deserves an encore and then if they delivered they appeared in like a balcony playing instruments the encore and everyone's just like Oh. What else can you do cream lake eminem. I'm in the chorus of lose it. I think they did like sabotage which is just like such a fun song to scream and like every the whole point. I have to admit Beastie boys. I fear and we'll get into Greece as we play the song but I fear that maybe a little bit have been ruined for me. Okay from the fucking Improv game that we did it. You see okay. Are you familiar with this game. Yes Ya okay for people who don't know it's like a freestyle style rap game to like. Try to get you all thinking. The same and like is few reuse. Try to guess the rhyme at the end of the line to sing it with the person free styling which is now now all. I hear when I listened to the Beastie Boys. Here's the thing about the beastie boys as that. They're not necessarily good rappers but they are great the energy yeah energy. It's all energy. It's all vibe. It's like it's bigger than what it is like. It's not but there's not the depth and breadth of like biggie right so for it to like win against Rosa Parks. You're kind of like I don't know that you can compare these rights right but it is a perfect beastie boys song it into central be studio heels almost like an avengers movie winning. Best Picture Oscar where like it's not the best movie but it is the movie that is like it is a movie that is like a pure and perfect execution of what what it sets out to be. I would agree with that. I would agree with that completely a few more notes produced by Mario Cal DA. I'm GonNa say thank thank you. That's obviously Mario see in the song which we'll get to but I need to tell you he also produced those three Jack Johnson records. I did not know that isn't that older. Do you think about the range of production how different acoustic guitar and a single vote. I'm just shaken by the whole thing Mario seat while brother other. You do like to keep it clean also. Do you know that there was I hesitate to say an unreleased version because it is a totally different song but there is an unreleased song called intergalactic lactic by the Beastie boys from nineteen ninety three or four. I have it if you WANNA hear it. It was licensed and then it's pretty much totally different that sound that sound so nineteen ninety-three goods very like Robin downhearted yeah very very like early the roots or just routes very black sheep yep like kind of stand up bass or very man. That's like so of a time time. It also supposedly samples four songs. I'm not sure this is true but definitely at least a couple of them are check this out. This is Rachmaninov's Oz prelude and C sharp minor however this is a version from Les Baxter in which I think this guy released an entire album of moog versions friends like since version. This is like I think the phrase they use for the rain here. That's awesome. It's really bad like also what a cool idea do classical song like a sin. I I love that. Sorry episodes over now. This is what we're doing this. We're going to hang out in the haunted house. Have you seen that tweet going to pay forty dollars for a haunted house. Better die very good. Re tweet it every October baby. There's okay three other samples which I'm so unsure I'm sure about. I'm just GONNA play a youtube video that plays them back to back so thank you to eight minutes upside down. Fly Skimmers licensed to ill Gerard Chirac this galactic yes. It's just the drop the sampling themselves boss move the Jazz Crusaders Mercer going to the mall. The mall Mercedes which ones correct. I don't care anymore a blue and I actually can't tell I think they use the baseline but can you hear that I can't. I can't hear discern. There's nothing here for me and this is just one word. Thank you go. That's basically the trial right so like Oh and also do you know that the album version I think I have it in the clip. I grabbed Biz markie free styling. I love it. I was thinking about that on the way over. I'd so charming and it's like it just kind of like rides out after the duet and it's just kind of meandering freestyle very refund. I love like it sets the like by the entire song after the songs already over yeah. It's like Oh. This is what we're doing. We're just having fun. I love their relationship with Biz Markie. They have on on their the sounds of science. Greatest hits can a two disc said desk. I'm fucking they. There's like a version in a live version of Bennie and the jets did with Bismarck Benny and the jets yeah. BBC Boys and Biz markie covered Benny the SORTA God. Is there a way to find this now we could okay. I'M GONNA have Mersa if that's in there. Do it now yeah uh so good. You're good giant. It's really great. It's it's it's again. It's like all energy. All it's like health and John has a beautiful singing voice and this is not that it's just jump up the the good love it with all of that said. Should we get into the God. Damn saw absolutely oh excited this puck and I don't know what to call this. It's so much more than a beat so this is our first album with the turn table. Guy Right yeah cheese they. They took a three M season one. Dj right a lot of like scratching on it vis no oh yeah mixmaster. Mike of Course in coffee calm. I'm like I'm so fried. This has been like the longest two weeks of my life for book sounds exhausted and I did a festival in Vegas Vegas. Oh my God and then was at the Emmys on Sunday. I was just I was basically drunk for a week and now I'm like paying for it by not having thoughts in my head perfect time though to just chill listen to really laid-back com beastie boys song very relaxed. I yeah they've I've got the mix master Mike Scratching. It's just like so the opening is so goofy. It's like robot talk. I think it might be sampling some movie or something that I put in fact. Check that thoroughly enough to determine it and so it's it's this robot talk and then the drums come in and the drums like authentically knock like they're good right so it's like this is like the central tension of the Beastie. Boys is so so silly but it's. Kinda good slaps in such a strange way. Yeah it like it's almost novelty song yeah. It's not it's like the very outer under fringe of sincere song or the very sincere fringe of novelty is like when I say that I mean it without any cruelty or criticism like it's so fun and there's just like a pure joy to it that is like unsullied by the obligations to be cool. yeah yeah yeah cool is like the perfect thing that it's not not cool but it is cool because because it's not cool coolest guys being so silly told me this maybe in high school. I feel like I would have had a better experience. Knowing the only thing you need to do to be cool is to try to not be commend. Commit to the thing yeah so hacky. Sack should have been cooler when I did it but it wasn't. I also need players from the top because I I don't know what happened. They want to hear the daily Planetary Planetary and then the drums giving us all right. This is actually kind of bank and then also this it. Is it actually a robot. That could very cool robot so this is they're saying saying I swear to God. I'm the first time in three months and then somebody I went to school with is like everything another dimension. There was like get the fuck out here under drink bleach that I didn't know that my own you guys were competing to know more about the beast voice this is this is like my whole life is built to this moment. I'm so glad you could come on the podcast and finally determined yourself as the king. I love no never I would never presume to starts right the prince. Actually it's just prince. He just went by Prince okay well. I didn't know that I read somewhere. It's heavily coated but I don't I don't I don't I don't know I don't know enough about music production. I'm like I'm a very dumb goon and I I love it. I'm just like I love this. It sounds so fun. It is like it's not a song that I would put on like a lot of playlist that I was going to play. Eh everywhere okay. Where would you play it. I I'll tell you where it's perfect any one of my childhood friends if it played at their Wedding Oh oh when everyone's other every friend from childhood would go absolutely bug on the rap the whole song humiliating alleviating dome. I could do almost almost the whole song her memory still don't say it. I'm GonNa make you do it. I think. I don't know that we have the time it's like that's where it's perfect. I feel like a party at my house or driving mix like you have to be a little bit fucked up in some capacity just because it's a little overplayed to play over or just like I haven't heard it. It's one of those because so much stuff. I feel like if you're going to hear. BC's it's not MRIs avenue be. It's GonNa be like Fire Department until Brooklyn barrels like that that the or sabotage comes up more. I think that I just like Oh. It's so in the got away the one that got away and it was I remember it being like the only the song that obviously there are other songs that's but I just remember this song being like if there was a movie about my life that summer when I was like thirteen the soundtrack would just be this song. Andre the montage of like your door. He'll ask like trying to get hot for the party but like failing miserably. This is the sound underneath that we get to the party and it's just like all this and I'm like. Oh thank God the one prepared for just gently moving your headset. thingy got deadpan. The entire fucking times jonty shoulders don't shoulders is is my middle name and high school okay. Let's go to the word Juki take. My question is what the fuck did. He knew he said well now. Don't you tell me to smile oil. Stick around to make it worth your while got numbers beyond what you can dial. Maybe it's because I'm so versatile style profile said listen. I know I I just proving that I know so wait. The first ones Mike D at which point does it switch to address. I have to hear it because they know they do it so seamlessly leslie because it just so. I understand what the fuck we're talking about here. WHO's the song directed at the general audience the man. Do we know okay when he says got numbers numbers beyond what you can dial. Does this mean here's a lot of contacts here so many friends or is this like a big bank account. Look if you're coming to the Beastie boys for literal interpretations you come into their own interpretation. I think it's both I think it's like or doing numbers like sales right beyond more than seven digits. That's too many digits. Frankly it should be illegal it should be you can't sell them any records. I've never had any fucking idea what the song is about alias. It's kind of about alien. I think it's more I'm realizing now. I think he's trying to say worse so big that we're famous space. Yeah those great big famous spaces like such a funny but like kind of the missed opportunity to not like hammer that in the hell aliens are fucking to your music and they could just slipped. I didn't like it was literally fate. If we're so big we're famous and Spurs. Put in the sides of your face. That's your ears so this is the land later we're getting there. We're going to determine it's actually not uncomfortable at it might be true but to me. It's like do to try to to try to change your boys song. We would be like to you know to to put a just one more paint stroke on the Mona Lisa affair comparatively. I guess maybe like Shit. You're painting and I love like hostile to add another dog to the dogs playing poker. It's like the artist had division no but I do feel like we do need that as a society. If there's one thing I think we need to revisit from. I'm like historical things. Li the statues in the south. Put another dog in the painting. I put a dog playing poker. Dixon the confederate statue. That's the compromise incredibly racist harmless tattoos but dog next to it. It's funny write army so fucked up. What if the dog is biting the convention? Just put a bigger person on top of them smashing them with a hammer to keep the statue you but we all feel okay about it now. It's about eighty. Mersa Scrub everything I just said uh-huh okay so I run the marathon to the very last mile. That's like how you run a marathon. It's like it's like you could just say I run a marathon. That's what I love about it. It's it's so silly like you. They could've come up with a more coherent both rhymes with from the Hudson River out to the Nile right but the Bragg was was just like I finish what I start which is like a very wholesome Brag but you know what though on the rhyme scheme front holy Shit. They've done one two three four five six seven seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen on. I'll I'll right which is like. It's so that's what I mean. It's so silly really and they accomplish it by saying effectively nothing but it's so I set it always brings me back when I hear how you said that off. Mike and also see referencing oud shot saying like it always brings you back when I hear that he's just quick shot to that Song Christianity Long Anyway I sell a lot of records. I finished. Africa and I always finish the mayor I always or even say always. I just said I finished. There might not be maybe one time he did also. Maybe I'm an asshole but I just find the idea hysterical of just like three men gathered around taking turns singing about not having the best does rule. It's I love head. It's like we're all going to sing the last word yeah so funny and they did it. It's not just inner according they would do it live. They would come out in in front of people and be like here's our song of being popular in space yeah they. They took it seriously so we're all laughing together. I don't feel like I'm making fun of it. I think so and I think when when I say that these are not great rappers. I don't think that either right but they were pioneers. Yeah just like this is joy who can hear this be like all right. This is fun doing that. They would be art the MCA would direct their videos under pseudonyms and like I mean the sabotage video is like one of the funniest vague. It's it's like a seventies crime caper. They're all rolling fake mustaches ashes and sideburns and they're running through a condo complex would have gone a different way without the beastie boys. Do you know what I mean. They're style like show set the precedent for MTV. It's so silly and like I. It's silly without being it's a goofy liquor grounded goofy goofy tinderbox actually that's my gritty reboot of this is like a real grounded goofy where he's like a single digit prequel okay. He's grounding. Max is a kid again. Yeah maxes little brothers. Sam You gotTa Watch find out about her sent him. I said brother right. It's a Unisex name on you. Got You okay so show rhyming on I'll he's guile. You've got you've. You've got reliable revile. You've got gaul. You've got guile is so funny. What does that mean. It's just like the nerve of you pretty slick with the nerve of you. There's also another song on this album where I think it's abstract says I'm the King of Boggle. There is a higher I get eleven points off the word quagmire which is like. It's just so silly. It's full mastery of like it dumb rhymes yet. It's almost like doing it's when someone someone is really like guitar virtuosos just playing like silly scales and stuff gas or you're just riffing. It's not that deep. They're sincere zero people and they have like values people but the the music stayed so like young so young. That's really special. It's really not and they grow up. I mean there were like six years. I think between this and they're like last album with vocals and then there was like a instrumentals album after that. I believe if I'm not messing that up. no-no factually you in the six year. I know it's the Internet. Who Does they know better. It's in the six years in between I feel like they aged a lot. In terms of maturity and the next album was to the five boroughs which is all about how much they love New York. Who would you still pretty Cillian sweet like that the lead single that was the one that's just called Je. Check it out on yeah and it's also very very silly. It's like a continuation of this. this on it feels like specifically its like hey we're having a good time and the other ones are a little more sincere but like man. It's just so fun and this can't be the entire spectrum of music or even the entire spectrum of hip hop music. Obviously no no no no. I'm so glad that the colors the beastie boys paint with our like on the pallet I do feel like they brought brought a specific color that I'm I mean I'm sure I'm just ignorant to some other artists that brought us similar shades like a unique beastie boys ochre but it is yeah it is in the vein of Marquee Right. There's a reason to get along so well and they had a really fun song off of Ill communication called. Get it together with q tip from tribe called quest last legitimately one of my favorite songs and I think they're in the rock and Roll Hall of fame. I think that's true that's true. Don't bother looking it up because I'm just saying imagine that they aren't at this point. I'm pretty sure they they were the year before he died me before Adam Yuck dead whichever one died. I don't know their names. I'm sorry I I think I got it right okay. I appreciate that you're being so kind about it. I think I duNNo. Perhaps some correct is definitely. I got their book. Well actually no my wife. Wife got me their book as a gift and signed by mighty and address which is like. Oh my cherished possession. G. League went got a signed copy from a local bookstore and shadow. Two books are magic back. That's the name of the store just like an opinion. I have although both in Yeah I have a magic by Nice. Try there's I I think there's probably still some signed copies there two copies of my book there too but then I got the audio book because I had a long drive set up for a GIG and I put it on the intro was about how good a friend Adam Yuccas in such an organizing force behind the group and such a a a wonderful person. You have the privilege of knowing and I like started tearing up. You and you really got me and I. I haven't returned to the book yet it because I was like I'm not ready. It's like four hundred pages of it's all it's. I know it's not all that but I was like if there's like five pages of this. I'll just like driving my car car off the road cry. 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We'll put this on record coming from Uranus to check my sal be coming from anywhere so is that a double entendre of the space thing and also coming live your own but they let us show to a butthole rows on layers again. You're naming. My Memoir. Saw Go ahead. Put My rhymes on trial cast you off exile so he's like begging someone to rap battle hymn. Yeah Oh yeah they WANNA fuck it which don't know if it would go. Well I just he like. I don't know perhaps in the rap battle format. This isn't gonNA work the same way no rata like are less about energy and more about actual rhymes punch Kline's and demoralizing people. They're not super demoralizing. They do have a documentary eight mile. Now I mean the voice they weren't in that uh-huh Eminem Saipem as like a constant inspiration. I think I heard eminem and corn both do corn really Trista. They can immediately where with court to just that breakdown for free gun elise. I'm like so. Mc Ad Rock fuck I don't know their names okay mic t one and then add rock and MCI MCI yea the one I was trying to say I need one more letter. You like blended seamlessly and take you start looking at the genius page. Please don't tell anyone I would never go back the chorus as being all all day I like my sugar with an creed. Okay fully reverse verse engineered to make the rhyme heaven is she's like what Sillier that there's no reason to bring up your coffee preferences and sit like and it's honestly to say if it rhymes like I like. I like my coffee with cream and sugar some booger. Whatever if that had been the more I like my coffee with sugar and cream time to plot and scheme whatever to say I like my sugar with coffee in cream is like such an intentional way to be like this is nonsense right but also like genius says the line previously is jazz and a wall. That's our team. referencing awol from suicidal tendencies and jazz is who is a guitar tech who toured with them. I one thing I love about the Beastie Boys. They will mention their friends in Song Right. We all know that yeah which I love. It's like a very it's. It's almost like the springsteen extended. Universe goes are made up people street but I mean he'll mentioned the band right. He'll talk about like big man joined the band and stuff that and then but then there's like the the kind of cosmology of Character University of springsteen's on's the hold steady kind of took that on and they do very similar thing of like. There's this cast of characters the BC was just wrap about their friends as if like their characters in these songs or like people people that you know like they'll mention like their roadies and fixers and stuff and managers. It's very common guard. Yes Ain't enough now. People do know that I've very charmed by the intimacy of talking about the the people that are on scene yeah and also like step inside the party disrupt the whole scene fine. Okay that is pretty cool. Quick Pivot from like here's our friends like into one and two now back to me party and I'M A disruptor Rupture Energy Circle Baggio GonNa send it but debt this interview pre Silicon Valley back causing a Ruckus right and the person on genius this. Let's see if I can now four contributors. They say that the sugar with coffee and cream as an example of them disrupting today really say that how we mostly it wasn't sugar and his mug adding the coffee and cream unlike how it would normally be adding the sugar and I'm like well. They also sixteen words to rhyme with eight yeah so maybe like cream. Maybe you just need cream but you could also have said. I like my coffee with sugar cream. I think that they were trying to be clever and I will say that is one of the lines. I actually canceling along to when I'm going. I like my sugar bob the angry yeah. That's an iconic one. Yeah and it's like so it's so disintegrate jumps take setting. It's upsetting. I still our cloudy growing on me the longer they do it. Yeah talking about just being nice must be so relatable to you very sweet nicest iceman comedy as an overseer but it's very sweet. Please read what genius says the first line of this. I got to keep it going. Keep it going full whole scheme. I don't feel like that needs to be one of the annotated lines but it is and they say steam engines operate by boiling water transform heat into mechanical that is not even even necessary to understand July like you don't have to know how a steam engine works full steam steam engine. There's an image and you do need to know the context for it. Because the line preceding the image says but did you know that the earliest steam engines existed back in the same century as the custos these genius entertains are like looking at sand and trying to make magic. I picture for the to me. It sounds so much like a child. That's trying to sound smart but doesn't know what they're actually saying did you. Next move was just Adams. It could be Adam Sandler from three contributing accounts. I would nothing England make me happier. Nothing Dinky heavier as like just a day not knowing that Adam Sandler sock puppet ano- tastes Beastie Boys Song Dogs with science out loud as he doesn't like amazingly enough the library Mary of Alexandria Engine Ingenuity Exclamation Point. It's like one of the book reports from Billy Madison really really is somebody who was like. This is a thousand word minimum. I have two hundred words buck how narrow or how can we make these margin too sweet to be sour too nice nice to be elegant. He dropped element even. MCI mean himself on well. On the tough guy style to King Josh's literally you. I'm not surprised you chose this off. I love it trying to change the world. I will plot and scheme like we're GONNA be disruptors of the patriarch game like what I mean. It feels like they were on the right side early. I think so I hope that's true it feels true and then my de Mario see who of the aforementioned mentioned Mario Johnson Zone. Mario's does a really cool thing yeah. It's great a minute thirty six in there like we know you're tired of this quick. That'll be sexual whatever notice they pan back and forth and now we get back to add rock one final time before our second quarter third quarters the sun a little bit field a thousand years long to me because like I don't hate it. It's a thousand years I would Happily spent definitely a hundred years changing say planetarium right. That's fucking real fun too. We all know that and then also that little baby crying again. It forces you to the robot. This song is a little bit like a big bowl of candy for breakfast. I know my diet. Did you watch he said now when it comes to the envy ya'll is green because really feels like an Improv game you WanNa play with me okay jealous of the rhyme and the rhyme routines and other dimension new Galaxy intergalactic planetary now when it comes to green jealous the rhyme and the rhyme routine. That's actually I do agree with that one. You're jealous of their arms and their emerging so many lines on the same time they didn't have to do that. Differentiated for US course change again here yup toxic. Ask Your shoes and relax your socks in every rhyme on this line. I'm like when is the beat drop the when does it he again again as a very casual non listener listener. I'm like the one line I can sing along to Wayne word anytime here. What did he actually say. We're from the family tree of old school hip hop they. They formed in nineteen seventy nine so that feels to me but I haven't they were like they were kind of the hardcore band at first right. Didn't they come from like punk outfits that kind of makes sense to me but but it says on genius and again I don't fucking trust you. You said all but just for fun they emerged around the same time is such as such legends like. Ll Cool J. Yeah Yeah that makes sense. Do we call L. J. Legend I think so we do we just ignore the deepest bluest. How does like a shark's fin thing you gotTa okay. You can't the can't I'll be home run. Sometimes they get shark's Fin. Mama said knock you out. Just like that was a cool thing kind of cool. does it. Is it cool twenty nineteen now. I don't know I don't know I'm just asking asking questions. It's fair. It's really just like I love the creativity that comes from so desperately trying to rhyme. It's great you put yourself in a box would not move on and then you figure out what the parameters are this day. Don't even use box. You just can't with a new one out of sixteen. You found a new kind of think of myself as the fourth beast you've uh-huh okay here. We go for the famous one. I'm so excited I can finally sing along a the voice to me. Jura burp a little bit it does and that's sampling themselves from a different song. They could have genucel again yup but they didn't. That's a really cool thing to do a song. It's it's very when we did this before yeah. Hey remember us from then but now it was the craziest prior to me about. The baby got back episode. Is that like I think in multiple samples in that song of previous remix lot songs that's incredible and nobody even knew that no never became as famous so like do it. That's so funny. I didn't realize that in large part of this podcast is trying to do is to be like hey. There's a lot of good shit already made you know we don't need to make new stuff. We can just remake songs like we remake. Movies are not agree. I agree and here's the B. J. I I didn't even notice the beat changed their so subtle that the base before the blues that's probably the reference then and it sounds like the based from the early version from the nineties to yeah. That's that also stayed or you know just in this little form boom boom that okay the one. I feel like we really seldom Mr at that. That was convenient. Shit out of me yeah okay. So what the fuck did he say now when I wrote graffiti. My name was slop. Is that true or is you're just making it up. I I don't know enough slop. I believe it. Can you think of slop and not immediately think of Charlotte's web or anything. That's right there to graffiti. My name was so big. I'm going to swim with them. If it's the last thing I do my rap soup my beats his stock that's on. Can we talk so if the if rap music is superior beets are the stock that all together the base of the rap steps from from the table when I start to chop and I'm not sure about. Is there an entity hopping. The beat like a turntable got it okay host up from the table that turn the fuck away from me when I'm working cod God. I wish I had a shirt that said that also working. She usually get the fuck away from me all the time. I don't like people stand too close to me the subways at adjustment kidding. What am I saying that can be real. No I love. I love standing close to people. I just love. I Love New York. City is just like not having a sense of personal boundaries kind of humanizing away. I'm so used to having a whole car myself. You know what I mean now. You don't even have the space of your human body. I saw on the subway still undetermined undetermined as she knew the man behind her but she was like gently rubbing her ass into him. She was very fucked up on something shore and I don't think she knew him but he was a kind of letting her do it and like very polite way like he's not into it. He was just like Ma'am and she was like. Oh my God and then she just went right back to bump and grinding and there's there's a lot of living in New York. This just like well. I guess this is happening now. I'm an fell asleep on me three times on the subway ride and really went back and forth with what to do here and then finally was like you know what he should know better and gave him the firm. Elbow tricep there then he did it again and I left anyway. I'm the LUMBERJACK D. Okay. Now we get to the final verse before the last chorus and we're the song that base yeah yeah. Go like what a way to end it. I'll stir fry you in my walk. Walk is like so goofy the line before also. If you try to knock knock me. You'll get mocked very light because you're get your for some reason also like you could have ended that line with knock but instead they were mocked. My friends are GONNA come free. If you make fun of me and then I'll stir fry you my walk and I'll touch your neck back like Mr spa very goofy reference to ask out that happens after brides out for a while. They knew this was so good. We're just GONNA play it for so silly. I can't listen to sober abreast with some reason it is much better because people cheering in another dimension talk the example now we gotta Bismarck Yeah. The name of the key kid rock rock. Super educated are smarter than spots. Why you ever tell you will agree a novell's like the k. r. d. tell you what a fun little like here. We are hanging out you get to leave on the record yeah fun. Why does Bismarck. He permanently telling kids the worst cold. I don't know we are our dog is in part named after marquee. Our dog's name is busy. She's this pug and when she when we got her she was very anxious all the time and she sounded like she was beat boxing. That's my impression of a puck very very good. That's exactly what she sounds like okay so I need to ask you now. Yes to questions this is. This is part of the show. I turned to James Lipton. If you go to the pearly they gave no. I have now gone within the guy I wanted to know. If you feel differently about the song after examining it or it just reaffirmed the ways in which you already felt it mostly reaffirmed though is already felt because they felt very aware of its deficiencies which I think the imperfections are what make it so beautiful so you wouldn't change it which follow question. I guess the one thing that I was surprised by Urinalysis of it which I guess they can see if I'm if I'm trying to the objective is that it is a touch long so maybe combine two of the verses into one long verse and lose one of the choruses yeah although because the versus very long yeah so you can combine them in. I don't think people would be like this versus dragging. They would be like ooh. We got the aisles and the what's the other soul the aisles in the Oxus. It seems and yeah so I think maybe I would wish together with the problem is the chorus is definitely the the best part. That's the part that like a poor baby. Someone needs to tend to them. Yeah someone someone nurse that baby. That's another thing I would change. Somebody takes care of the baby. I would sell a little bit shorter. Maybe a little bit shorter okay. That's the only thing changer just curious because I have to determine if this is worth bunching up or not I think I I think that would be my oh that they would explicitly mentioned how popular they are in space okay. We'll see you do now. You're going to listen to the episode finance. Listen Ah I'll just listen to the party say though is there a way to edit josh out of the entire podcast that he saw great me and Tom only sorry ah featuring like the Bismarck voice freestyles of the egg and at the beginning tells us that it's Beastie boys with all of that said should we get to on punishable gems Josh Gal as the esteemed guest of honor. What Song do you find to be too perfect change. I've seen a lot. It's like still new pornographers weather in New York which is like love this way you're quantifying time and so that's how I think about the like but it's not too hot but it's real. It's like very pleasant. It's Iowa warm. Short sleeves career like meet cute weather murky weather for sure on the spot I would say offers. I think the new pornographers I'm so glad listen to this guy the spending in the new record I mean the day of the recording perfect Kismet. That's top of mind AH. Ha for me. I also WANNA do artist on a song that came out recently but I'm choosing it because the backstory of the song is that they invented a really insane sample from like an old radio turning earning on and like a piece of cardboard being slid on a table and they made the whole song around that sample and it took them like five years. It's I ne- off the new Bony Bare Record Luna. You know the process process behind the song. I can't understand at all how you spent five years on a song to me. I'm like you you give up on the song at that point but they didn't and I actually think this is one of the rare examples where like they eventually figured it out better for that you don't even because I feel very rarely. Do you have the best take after twenty takes. Usually it's kind of like diminishing returns. No the song is truly unique to me. I have not heard our song. I really recommend it. I think it's perfect fall weather and actually think the album I would say like seventy percent of it really works for me me just as like a fall soundtrack if you're into that I've kind of fallen off with Boniver over. The last few years. Last record was a little accessible. I think this one is still not as accessible as the first two for me however far more than the last one oh that's good yeah. I'm I mean good for my purposes. I'm like I've I save this frequently to describe my taste and things but like I just want everything to be like incredibly accessible. I'm like I very simple tastes. I look one everything to be the born to run that thing yeah. I hear you're saying I find find like as a listener I fall into the same trap but then I was like a creator. I'm like this is fucking boring. You will also like as a as a comedian. I think I'm very like overwritten written and obscuring snarky but like as a might taste in things is like I have been watching superstore from the beginning yeah and it's like such a it's like a workplace workplace comedy yeah. It feels a lot like like an update version of the office. I feel the same way about Shits Creek. Yeah this is great for what it is so simple and perfect like it's just a beautifully executed version of a very simple and straight. It's not even simple straightforward premise and they just want that just like put all the bells and whistles on it trick it out. I love it. It's the thing he come back to. I feel yeah yes well. Thank you so much for coming on my first New York guest. Thank you for having me. I'm so honored. What do you want to promote. Oh my gosh please read my book. Look and buy it I or listen to yeah. It's it's you can get it the audio book wherever audio books are sold you can get the hardcopy paperback you can read it on it e-readers such as a calvary where it's everywhere like look. It's someone told me that it's The San Francisco Airport Bookstore. SF Oh oh you've made a baby yoga room. Airport Bookstore is like very flattering like Hudson News and watch these marrow on showtime. When we're back October fourteenth I saw the preview. It looks so fucking good. I can't believe you got all those guests. Oh assume you real fun. They're fun the guest there's really I find interviews and stuff lined up and like some fine. I'm sketches already shot and released. I it looks like such a fun show to work on it more fun. Show to watch thank you. I hope it's fun to watch. That's like again. That's like the VIBE. I've been working in lately. It's just like trying to make things that are trying to. I don't make us myself obviously like trying to work on be a part savings and to end when I make things that are like fun and pleasant and like if not a not like an ignorance of the world but like a comfortable place nice to enjoy within the horrible world that we live I can relate to that and for what it's worth your reach has now gone to you my father who's I wouldn't say pop culture relevant person who texted me chose like two weeks ago to be like hey while you're in New York. You should have diesel and Merrill on the show so like he's watching as a year old man in Washington state. You're doing something right there like legitimately the greatest guests on anything. They're so funny funny all the time. They're and they're they like play so well with a reformat them later ideal late night gas. They're great podcast guests. They're gonNA go so fucking far. I hope to see it. I really you love to see it well. Thanks again for coming on one quick note to people listening as of I think yesterday yesterday when this airs the Patriot has been fully relaunched with brand new perks there's going to be I'm really excited with this one. I am very proud of myself for thinking of it. They're going to get to know the song we're GonNa Punch up before anyone else so that they can comment their stories and experiences with it and then I'm GonNa read my favorite ones on every episode love that because people have such great stories about I lost my virginity to that song like I I mean. Can you imagine someone's probably done it. Definitely someone's done it so anyway. Check other Patriot. If you WANNA be a part of it otherwise thank you for us today and I'll I'll see you next week bye bye now. Premier the intergalactic injure Galactic Punch up again ca the first the taste aloud talk talk okay. That was podcast.

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MT. ROCKMORE | Episode #16: BEASTIE BOYS

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MT. ROCKMORE | Episode #16: BEASTIE BOYS

"I don't know you're already hedging. That's what I'm saying. This is what happens right folks breaking down the best four songs this this. This is rob. I think it's absolutely repulsive. I can't imagine anyone doing anything so disgusting. That's my mom. Everybody and welcome to mount rock more for those of you new to it. Welcome your for those of you. Who ARE DEF JAM rockers? In the words of today's artists. If you front on the rock best run and hide if you got static will take it outside. Good Day rock more nation. I'm Bauer your climb leader and as we get ready to. Chisel are way up this bonner mountainside to crush the four career defining songs of a group that altered the direction of popular music. At least only count this year at three different times and lived to tell the tale today. We're GONNA FOCUS OUR Mount Rock. More on the Beastie boys that sounds fascinating to you do a small favorite checkout our other mount rock more ventures at the Bauer show dot com recently tackled alison chains with the NFL networks Michael Fabiano also an Angus Young Act Smith Series. And today we do not climb alone now. We have a body. Climb Buddy no diggity today. We're joined by our Shaman of the first hip hop album to reach number one on the charts and did more than any other recording to introduce the genre to the suburban masses. This guy is courtesy of NFL. Fantasy live I mean. He's The star. Dave Damasec WanNa fight me on that. But I'M GONNA be honest about this rank. We all clearly know who runs this deal. We also know that you are now did did you. Oh Dave DAMASEC money. Is that how you got involved with the Dave Damasec Football Program? Adam rank absolutely. That was a for me. You know what's funny is I. He's a local radio legend here too when he joined when he joined the network. I was freaking out out. I'm like Oh my God you have people from across the country who they're from different places and I'm always trying to tell them like you damage shack like you know. It was famous famous individual and he was on the fantasy live. Shown I was frigging out in the first couple of times that we were doing shows together hanging out. You're like oh my gosh. This is so amazing and then at some point you know he's starting a podcast and you're like Oh my God. He wants to be on what to do. So yeah so you know what he is if you look at an NFL network Mount Rushmore. I would say that Dave Damasec when I'm just happy to be in his arm. Oh Wow look. He listened to hold on. I just WANNA be clear this. And he's not here right now. You don't have to kiss his ass. You can be honest about this stuff. Now listen I get what you're saying because Damasec when he was on Corolla show and was a legend in the area all the loved him and I would. I would be that guy be like. Did you know damage doing the and people look at me like who's damage? Who's this guy? Now I know the NFL network. But that's I know Lincoln Kennedy. That was there that was their only limited exposure at that point in time is in and Lincoln Kennedy were limited exposure to the NFL network. Which I believe I don't know maybe maybe you don't think this way. Are they also on the mount rock more if you all the Mount Rushmore of NFL network? Well it's going to be is in for sure. Sure right and then I don't want to upset. You would probably have to say Scott Hanson. Because he's the red zone. Yeah yeah that's right. That would make sense DAMASEC. Let's throw him on right and got one more. Maybe Michael Irvin. Ooh All right now dion. No Ole Oh dion. Yeah actually. I'm sorry Dave you're playing games. You know it's clear you have to make those listened to rank you can make those decisions or that kind of guy. It sucks sometimes to make them but you can make them very easy and then throw dash and say listen if if something happens to urban we'll put you in the place but right now. That's Irvine's to go with. I think that when you come to the souvenir shop you head towards the restroom. That'd be a nice huge poster of Dave damage. Yeah well that's what we'll do. Let's let's be fair. If we made that Mount Rushmore poster it would be crossed out by DAMASEC and then him drawing his own picture over the face of either dion or Michael. Irvin one of the two very much. So yeah well listen. I'm thrilled that you're with us here today. You are a God over the NFL network. And I mean that in that. You've helped me win a couple of fantasy leagues. So I'm thrilled to have you onboard here and you know we're buds. We've been talking for a long period of time and now your getting a chance to talk in this crazy corona virus world. How how social distancing going for Adam rank you know with children? It's always going to be a little bit of a struggle and making sure that they're cool. Yeah are having a good time and their minds are preoccupied for me. It means a lot of frozen to yeah onward on just dropped. Yes that's been that's been on is as we record this right now. Trolls coming out today. And I've already been told by my six year old. That is a lock for this evening's entertainment. Oh my gosh. We've already ordered it or excuse me we're gonNA order it tonight. We're having a slumber party now. My four year old doesn't take naps anymore. We've told her like look. You'RE GONNA take a map right the nine o'clock tonight. We're going to have a movie. We're GONNA have it and usually you know because we're part of the movie club out here cinemark little absolutely but they're they're movie club is actually super legit because you can roll over the tickets and everything. So we're avid movie goers at every time that we go she gets what is called the so coffee which is a rap. Cina like a Vanilla Bean Frappuccino shrieking caffeine or anything like that. Tough tough to NAP that way. When you're drinking those right right so she has one of those. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA homemade one tonight. Full her we're going to watch it and we're going to enjoy trolls world tour now. Am I correct in this when you make that drink for you? You just daddy's version you. Just add a little vodka to and it's fantastic. I was thinking. Jameson what trion. Both out see which one happens. See which one works even better for that would be great offer and as a Protestant. I usually drink bushmills. But I've read. This is how this is how they the the pandemic has been going from you. I've already tried both. Yeah and it's like. Oh Jamison actually works better here even though I don't want to let my mother no yeah. I'm drinking Catholic Whiskey. But it's a way to do you know what? I love it all right now. We you get an opportunity here because usually I'll combine the two because you know your wheelhouse certainly is football and fantasy football. We know that there's been a lot of questions about what's going to happen with the NFL going forward. So we'll talk a little bit of that. But also you are an avid beastie boys fat and thus the reason why we're discussing beast. He's here today on this out. Rock more the Mount Rushmore of Beastie Boys Song how when when when I approached you to do this. And you said Beastie boys and then did you realize the guilt almost upon saying yes to doing this because defining the songs the four songs from an artist. Like the Beastie boys with the collection at the Beastie boys has and the influence they've had trying to come up with four songs is challenging. It really is but you know being in the fantasy football space and having to make those tough decisions of argue drafting Christian McCaffrey or Saquon. Barkley you just you just have to now make a call. This is gut. That's your gut talking right right and there's going to be this if you know anything about me. If you've followed my work in the you know that I might not be the most traditional person when it comes down to things like this of making rankings and I'm not afraid to say something that might be taken a little bit as controversial or anything like that right not afraid of it so I've made my decisions sort of. I'm I'm locked into three like three to me and we'll get into this. Two of them are automatic. A third you're like of course and then it really comes down to the fourth for me and then you start getting into the deep album cuts and some other things and we'll talk about some of the stories of that too and where we've been thinking and where our heads are at and everything like that so I'm trying to put it in a way because I just actually turned into mock draft for NFL network. And this was that I date of trying to like put instead of a emotional thing trying to be like well. This makes sense because of this and this is the impact that it had here and so hopefully people won't be too upset but then again it's the Internet. It's say Welby we I will guarantee you. We will not be able to please. Every beastie boys fan here and that's fine that's not. We're we're not here to please everybody. We're here to have a discussion. Put some songs and carve them into the face of a mountainside and say that those are the career defining songs of the Beastie Boys. So we're going to do that but I do. Want to warn you so trust me rank when I say this from someone who's been doing this for a while try. Please try because you're going to. You're going to have the urge to Pummel your scrotum for second guessing the pickle that you've gotten yourself into when you actually hear the song played out into the ether. When you feel sort of that permanency of what had only been floating around your Noggin or that. You're writing down. I don't know I'm imagine there's you and probably an excel spreadsheet of some kind like when you're doing your draft like you've got a number of different elements to what you've got for your preparation ago. I'm imagining that was like. The I tunes Beastie Boys Catalog. You're kind of flipping through but that said try to resist that thought of. Oh what did I do by just saying this and then hearing the song it? There's a permanence to it. That feels a little weird. So that said the Beastie boys legends that we're talking about here not not just legends legends influencers before there were influencers. And we're not talking like instagram influencers. The KARDASHIANS are crap like that. We're talking about people who changed the face of music legitimately hall of fame musicians. Who Changed the face of music legitimately and with that. We honor them with a plan so much like March madness where you've got some little school. Nobody's ever heard of before taking on a big seed. Here we're going to do is we're going to offer you. Maybe that one. The didn't make it to the table. The one that you thought to yourself this could be the fourth one. But I don't know. Was there a song like that? That was in flux for you. Certainly and you referenced. It right up the top or it's rock. Hard by the Beastie boys and it's one of those songs that I'm trying and obviously when license. Dale came out there was huge. This might have been my first. Introduction to the beastie boys this and cookie puss and something that I kinda liked a little bit of like my my sisters were into harder rock so when you have a ACDC beat with the back in black like that kind of speaks to you at first and then like this is way better than the ACDC saw for me. And I loved it and I remember having a cassette tape and it was a blank cassette tape that you people. I know. We're speaking over the heads of there. There are some people who are going. What is this cassette tape of? Which and you can record it. And I don't know where I recorded it off of but it was a K. Mart will send a very nice memorex cassette tape and I had this guy had cookie puss and I had rock art and I would listen to rock art and my buddy would come over and we would listen to it all the time and I loved it and I love this song. The only thing and this took me years years to get over this. Yeah there's a line there's a line of song and I think it's Mike. Mikey says I'm were from Manhattan. You're from you know what they say. Wow I'm trying to think of what it is. What okay. Here's what it. Okay we're from Manhattan. You're from now. I'm from Chicago. I thought they were saying you're from Chicago. Said this and I'm like you know what that does I love this. I love the song but I don't like that they're dissing Chicago that right. Oh why we being thrown into this whole that whole battle that was between the East Coast and the Midwest rappers was always very challenging at them. Yeah I don't know what is like what is happening. I don't understand like this is not cool and but I still love the song for everything and I was even. I was living in California at the time. Turns out what the lyric is? We're from Manhattan. You're from Secaucus. Okay Secaucus Okay Manhattan Your Caucus. That makes much more sense. Lakes a lot more sense. And if you've been to Secaucus you would understand and it's because it's bridge and tunnel people. Don't listen I will highlight. I lived my first couple of years that I lived in Brooklyn. I my wife and I. We eventually had mike now oldest daughter who just turned thirteen week and when we moved out of Brooklyn we move to New Jersey. Because you could get more property you could get more house for a kid coming into your life. Then you could just the two of you in a Brownstone in Brooklyn right so we moved to New Jersey. We're still close enough for me to get in and work at serious like I had been doing but you know what and this is the author God we were living two and a half years in Manhattan all the friends. We made their refused to come visit. Us IN NEW JERSEY. Like not not. Oh can't look I got things I gotta do. They were just like you live in Jersey. We're not coming. No we're not going to do it. There is legitimately a beef between Manhattan and any part of what you would call New York City and New Jersey that those people don't like each other unless you're drunk in a bar in Bon Jovi's playing on the Bar Speakers. That's it one hundred percent that was illustrated perfectly in how? I met your mother as well point that is that is the thing and like so. I understand now so thankfully they were not disrespect. Yes Chicago it didn't hurt. It didn't hurt my affinity for the band and by the way if I can say one thing I please. I know that we've talked about this. What is wrong with you? Acdc WHAT. Let them release this song. Why this should be on all their greatest hits compilations and everything like that. Why why what? How did I have sampled? Acdc this guy like now. We can't allow. Yeah that's the thing like. They had this. I think this was the groundbreaking portion for that for a CD. Like they weren't thinking to themselves. You know some five years after they wrote the song and put it out on back in Black. That people were going to be sampling their stuff. They weren't thinking that but now it's quite clear if that's the case to let it go. There should be no reason. I tested this theory out. I went to itunes. I went through every last album. All of the box sets everything there. For the beastie boys to try to download this version of the song and I couldn't find it anyplace that's ACDC just being jerky about this whole thing and this was such. I mean when you listed like you said I grew up liking ACDC. So I caught this rift right off the bat. I'm like Oh yeah. This is awesome and I caught the drum mix in the way that they worked all that for this song. This is a great song. It enjoy that. They thought that your riff was awesome. Enough to include something as groundbreaking is. That's all the that that Brian Johnson and Angus Young. Need to think about now instead of going. Welcome on rise to this. You're not hurting for cash guys. Can you remember too in the the late eighties? Whenever Lee songs came out or early eighties. Excuse me if you look at the way. Aerosmith embraced run DMC S and. I'm not I don't know like forgive me? I'm not old enough was there. I don't know that Aerosmith was still a thing that I read life back into their career. Yes because like I don't the only reason I know who arrowsmith is is because of run DMC. Yeah like I would have never heard of that band and I think that. Acdc has had some hits. Probably I would never. I think that they would have had a bigger career. Because I don't think that like aerosmith is bigger than ACDC. Right era like that or legitimate. Thing I'm sorry you could. It could be it could be. I would I would say there. They both probably have roughly around the same amount of time that they've been playing together on a popular level. I would say you know. Aerosmith probably has more hits but ACDC popped out quite a few more records But I will say this to. Let's not forget that on license ill. There's more than a few led Zeppelin tracks led Zeppelin. Never once complained about the beastie boys using them. I mean when the levee breaks biggest rifts on that album and nobody said anything about it so I don't understand why. Acdc feels the need to step up here. Yeah that's what I mean. Be a Brat Ball breaker a backbreaker when it comes to this. Let me tell you something. Acdc tell him. I don't know if you've ever seen the movie armageddon but I hope you'll notice that at the end of the movie. Don't want to close my eyes and Ben Affleck is marrying. Live Tyler They're using an aerosmith song. That could have been you. That could have been you great point. Groin. Take your big guns from last action hero. Which sucked by the way and and shove it because I think you should have allowed and still should allow the beast Easter releases. That said right now that we've gotten our IRA out here because we certainly have. I say it's time we kick into the play in here and this was this close. If Adam Brank hadn't flipped that coin. This song could very well have been carved into the mountainside of beastie boys career defining sauce. Just listen to this I would have to say. Well I'll tell you this second. Just listen to this and you will hear that undeniable. Define beastie boys the way everybody I heard about these voice. You will hear that played out here on rock hard gear. On the Beastie Boys. Mount Rushmore off. Get outside Cumulus. What's wrong folks. Who King Way? These four off yet. Sick Beats Incredible Beastie Boys Style and Adam rank that that's the sound like when I remember. I didn't get into that song until later on. I didn't get to that song until much later but I was into like. She's got it. It's got the same field to it. It's got that same. We know the Beastie boys had like that kind of punk rock edge of. They're playing their own material being ban like really playing instruments and we saw that develop later on as far as the beast. He's considered but that is the sound of the Beastie boys that started and jump started them into what America finally in the world finally got to know who the beast he's were hundred percent and you can still find that if you go to youtube you'll be able to find this song and I remember a couple of years ago leaving it on my friends. Facebook page like dude. Remember this and how much and how much we wore out listening to it and I tried it and I the cassette where you can kind of record from one side to the other and I tried to make a copy for my body. Another friend of ours and dual data. Set the dual deck. Where you're playing one and it's recording on the other deck there. Yeah you know. This is the mid early nineties. We're doing this snow late eighties. Yes yeah so we're late eighties. So Yeah so because Yeah because licensing came out. I was in junior junior high elementary whatever But but yeah so because I had a cool stereo set up because my sisters were in the music everything so it was all good and yeah trying to make copies for people and be like you got to listen to this. This is so cool. And I'm a white kid who plays basketball. So we're really into this all stuff and trying to have my teammates get into it and all this so already in your right like once. I hear the song I'm like. This should be on it like those should make but I think as a plane because one of the things that I'm looking at here and one of the things I'm trying to do is like if you were going to and I we'll probably like this will be the experience of introducing the Beastie boys to my children right. The four songs that were picking are the these are the four songs that you gotTa know like. This is your base level. Rock-hard is the graduate level. That's the three. That's a great point. That really is a great point. Once you've graduated from those four that everybody should know once you've made it past those four and you WanNa get a little deeper knowledge. Like if you're going to sit down and pick up the Beastie boys book and read a little bit about the kinds of music. They were listening to when they formed the band. And that's the music that you want to hear them. Playing that is a perfect example of exactly that. So that's going deep. That's what you're working on. Your Beastie Masters for sure and my daughter calls the Beastie Boys Book the Pizza Book if you ever see me on You know because a lot of the content that we do now from home. Their beastie book is right behind me but my daughter calls it the Pizza Book and reading about some of this stuff reading about how they made the video for. She's on it things like that. That's where you go back and you want to explore and I also I remember to when I was you know again junior high age zing seventh grade somewhere in there. My mom bought me a vhs. Tape of the Beastie boys and the last song was she's on it and that video because it was never played on the music video shows right. It's such an awful video but it's also show great at the same time you know you listen to these songs. You're like yeah. This is something that you need to know but again graduate level you will get there and so for anybody who's GonNa come in and come after this list and be like these songs are better. I'm not necessarily saying these are the four best right. But this is the Mount Rushmore. Yes knows exactly to know the history of our country and you need to know these four presidents. God bless America. I am I am. I'm a saluting right there. Adam rank right here. That's my beastie boys book it's in the studio every single day so Adam rank from the NFL network. But I've got it here as well. It is the Bible for me and I absolutely love it. All right sir. Let's get into song number one. You've talked about these being the four that anybody who wants to know anything about the beastie boys. You're going to have to know these four songs. I will say that when I first learned about the Beastie Boys. It was a neighbor a neighbor who lived down the street for me Who We were me and my friends were all into like hair metal stuff and the Scorpions and those kinds of things and this guy was always into different music. And we've got love hanging out with him 'cause he would introduce us the things well when we were old enough to drive. Tony Cabeza. That's his name Tony Cabeza. Tony got himself an old. Like one of those release hideous ugly looks like a door wedge just a just the the it looks like something you would prop a door open with. And he ripped everything out that to put massive woofers in the back of his Chirac. Oh to literally rip out the air conditioning ducts in the dashboard and replace them with tweeter speakers. They were hidden behind. You could actually open and shut the little Air Conditioner Vents. And have the speakers right there. He didn't have any air conditioning in his car. In California in the mid eighties there. But you could hear him coming a mile away as he was blaring. The beastie boys out in his Chirac. Oh so that this was in San Jose California the east side of San Jose which is not the wealthy part. It's usually gangster-ridden part. But that's where I grew up as a kid. Okay down in southern California and everything so yeah yeah in before I get into this do I think it's also important just to give a little bit of background getting into talking about this and I know I've referenced. My sister's now my parents are much older like I was not a planned pregnancy. Gotcha out my dad was in put it was in world war. Two Okay is not like most people's grandparents. Yeah so like we'll be walking through a grocery store and my dad will pick a handle of Tequila off-the-shelf and be like Adam. I don't know who you should thank more for being here. Your friend Jose Cuervo or the craftsmanship of the port by Arctic condoms. I purchased on our twenty fifth wedding anniversary. But you made it so my parents. Yeah so my parents are older. You know they're like my parents. Were my friends grandparents. Age Right there into the RATPAC Sinatra Dean Martin Greg Little. Sammy Davis Junior. Yeah love it. Love all of it. I will listen to it to this day. My sister's considerably older than me as well. So they're into Zeppelin A bunch of those bands and things like that so I always immersed in that. Because you couldn't escape because when you're a little kid you don't have any choice that's it. Yeah your sisters are blaring their record player up there. Come on. You're you're stuck listening to it hundred percent. So the beastie boys were the first band that I was ever going to be able to own like my parents. Weren't beastie boy fans know my sisters. Were Not Beastie boy fans. This was my group. This was my thing this is I respect it. I won't sit here and listen to Stairway to Heaven Celebration Day and all that stuff. The beastie boys were going to be it for me. This is my thing. This is my. This is my everything in so for the first song. If I can jump into it yes got to be the most important song it has got to be fight for your right to party and I listen. I don't know if it's I don't know if it's my favorite. I not my favorite beastie boys song but it is the song that put them on the map. It is the one that everybody heard. It is what drew everybody to them in. Think about a song that came out in the late. Eighties mid eighties. Whenever I think about eighty six Travis Kelsey is still referencing this song. That's a great long twenty. After his team won a super bowl in an era where any kid under the age of thirty says okay boomer eight. That's a little travis. Kelsey is still referencing. This song the song still matters and I remember my mom listening to it. And there's the line of the song it says. Living at home is such a drag. Yes and my mom's like well. Why don't they go live out on their own on the making like shit ton of money right yes? I go there. Probably find like not really like their meet. Their famous musicians like good Lord. I think they're okay like they probably are living on. I don't expect them to be living at home. It's so interesting that your mom pick that one out knowing that the next line was your mom throughout your best Porno Mag and then that wasn't the part that she jumped on like Adam. Is there something we need to talk about here that she already knew about well? This is definitively not just one of the first when you think of the Beastie Boys Live when you think of the BBC where video at least for me. This always seemed like the vibe that you got you know if you pop in that. Vhs Tape there's there. They are with their leather caps on the sunglasses in the Jean Jackets. Kind of spraying beer or champagne or wherever whatever it may be. That's in their hands at that time. All around for the fight for your right to Party. Element here This song and the slayer guitar in it as well just may and slayer in this. This is this is Keri playing guitar in the Saudi was in no sleep till Brooklyn. Oh you know what you're right. It wasn't for you right now. He wasn't a video for five zero to party but he wasn't in the song that's correct. Yeah that's what I have. Yes I no no no listen later on by the way. I'M GONNA Test Your Theory. Because we've got some beastie boys Today you learnt so we'll get to that in a little bit here as well but as you pointed out athlete and correctly in the video. Not In the song. This is the voice fight for your rights party. The first one carved into the face of the Beastie Boys Mel Rock mannion's glasses manny. Two Interest. Right way by flu awry man. Oh Man oh man oh man. I mean that that's the introduction to a lot of people on the remember when MTV played videos that's the first out there secondly that was that. Was it all over the place the the low budget in a studio the the Spanish fly poured into the PUNCHBOWL. Every part of that is I mean everything in that. The culture that the Beastie boys brought to that was tremendous. It was like nothing else in that kind of just set things off that you kind of had this vibe. For the Beastie boys when you look at it that he were these kids from New York who knew how to party or at least knew how to find the party and they were they. Were opening the door to what you were going to see for years to come absolutely and it's again and I'm sure that people like to argue and be like those not even the song you'll communication and you're probably right. We could. We could do four songs from ill communication. That would define that album but this is looking at the four that would define their career. And you've got to put that one on there you got to put that on and you talk about. Mtv Not playing music videos. I don't know if you still watch the challenge. But they they will play songs during the show the cover like it'll be like Katy Perry covering celebration day or whatever something weird if you're giving me Adam. Lambert covering the Beastie boys I'm going to vomit. I don't know I haven't seen it yet. I'm waiting for somebody. Somebody's had. I'm sure that fight for your right department covered a thousand times. I will always ignore it. I don't need I don't need billy eyelash and a baby grand piano covering fight for your right to party thank you. I'm good. I'm good now if you have other hip hop artists doing it. Yeah I'll go listen seriously if eminem wants to throw it on live on stage. Okay all here. That sure. I'm in. Yeah all right now. We're GONNA come back here a minute. I'm going to tell you we're going to do as I talked about this earlier. We're going to do five questions for rank. I'm going to have some questions for you. That may or may not involve football that may or may not involve the NFL network or may or may not involve fantasy football. And we're also going to have a beastie boys today. Learn so for every question that you answer sincerely and wholeheartedly I will give you a beastie boys fact like after Dinner Trivia that you probably already know may even have tattooed someplace on your body. I don't know and we'll come back. We'll do a little tit for tat. Meaning you load up. Tat's I've got the mantis covered. That's when we return with the NFL networks fantasy football atom rank here on Mount. Rushmore is clearly clearly not metro sexual moment moment in History Andre. The giant a man was born in a small farm town in France on May Nineteenth Nineteen forty-six Andrei Rusoff came out of the womb is a full grown man. 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Best four songs this this this is you are merely pirate hooker. Welcome come back. That rock more podcasts. Whether you're down on the Spanish fly pushing the brass monkey to two things. At the Beastie boys did in virtually as far as I can remember mostly every video that you saw on. Mtv please whichever one you're doing take the time to check out our website. The Bauer show dot com. Follow us on twitter at MT are. Komo R. Mount Rock more. We are talking with the NFL. Networks Adam rank who's helping guide us through the four career defining songs that he thinks are the ones for the beastie boys again. You're talking about an endless supply of fantastic music. An endless supply of music that changed the face of music and we have to pick four. So Adam you know this is incredibly tough to do you. You've always yeah you've already laid the groundwork and made it clear that. Listen you're not. Not Every beastie boys fan is going to agree that this is the best seller. They had a favorite water. They like this one or that one. We're going to have those. Of course that people talk about all the time. You're picking the for that. You're saying if you are a beastie if you want to know about the Beastie boys if you're somebody who wants to learn about what what the Beastie boys were if you're thinking about picking up as your daughter calls it the pizza book the Beastie Boys Book you're to need to know these four songs about them and you've given us not just a plan but the first song fight for your right to party right off the bat. Now where do we go from here? Now listen to the Beastie boys are down one BC boy and sadly and are a little on the grace. I now just like most of us are happens these days but that said if you out there listening to rank at I right now think of another band. You want to let us know about that. You want to have brought to the Mount Rushmore of their four career defining songs. Hit me up at Mount Rushmore rank. Where do we go from here? First of all we know that you were introduced to the the rock music from your sister's not a thing that your parents were into it all and that kind of opened the door to when you first heard of the Beastie boys with their music what what what developed from there from a musical standpoint. I still you know. Enjoy a wide variety of music and I think that living in southern California you get introduced to a lot of different things and that is one of the one of the beauties of it. Is that my favorite bands are not. There's nothing in common. They're not going to be like I. I like the beastie boys like blink one eighty two like the red hot chili peppers sublime maiden yeah. That's not. That's not going to be a bill of show. No ever felt like you know like somebody who's like I like blink one eighty two and I like good Charlotte and alien ant and yeah that makes sense but my beans are just a wide variety of of different interests in one of the things. That's great about the Beastie boys that they do a wide variety of different things because they went from ill communication and then they go to Paul's Boutique. Yes we might have not been the commercial success that everybody hit antiquated. I don't know if you remember. This was also a cassette. That was read. Yes so was unique. Let's be clear like even if you if you bought the old K-MART cassettes or the radio shack ones that I had oftentimes. They were like this milky white kind of a color that if you left them. Anywhere near sunlight or heat that would turn yellowish nature. But it'd be rare if you got anything that was like a solid eventually they marketed. The ones that you would buy from record companies like RCA. Now the people that had the full white one. But if you've got something unique it was like somebody who was black or it was a different color that you wouldn't have normally found for a cassette under percent and it was read. There was never. They used to do the clear ones. Oh yeah a really cool. Yeah when they came out. And the Beastie boys in Paul's Boutique I own. The Vinyl appalls Boutique Nice. I you know what's funny is my daughter. The first beastie boy songs he's ever listened to a shake your rump on my Israel is that right now my God because when I pulled out the vinyl like that's what she was I'm like oh no and there's a we. We made a GIF OF US shaking our. Oh Nice and you go through and the and hey ladies was on that album so for me. That album is one of those albums and I call it an album because I own the vinyl second. Say that it's not it's not. It's not something where you just drop a song. You're not gonNA drop like hey ladies was good good song. It's one of my favorites Shaker. Romps one of my favorites but I think they. Paul's Boutique is an entire experience. That you need to just enjoy in its entirety over the full sixty seventy minutes whatever. It is I'm not going to pull a song off their. I'm actually going to go and I think what does it to albums sleep now so this is to albums later right. I'M GONNA go. My second. Choice is gonNA be sabotaged. Listen y'all and I don't know if we love this song because the the song is great or because the music video was amazing. And I think that we all can remember the Beavis and butthead or Beavis like I can't wait for this song come out. Yeah the video that they're making fun of it but it's so good we'll also let's forget there's you can go back to you to people aren't even. GonNa remember this again. We're using references because these guys have been around for so long. The don't a lot of people aren't sure what that necessarily means. Like I talked to my daughter the other day about how we can put that on. Vhs tapes she's like thirteen. What's what's VHS? Tape Yeah Okay Gotcha. this was one you remember they were on Letterman. And they did this on Letterman live and they did on Letterman. And I wasn't even at that point. I knew that they had played in bands. I knew that they played their own instruments and bands. But I didn't think they were necessarily doing that. And then you get sabotage live on Letterman. You're like Oh my God. That's unbelievable. Because they blew the doors off that stage at Letterman doing that song hundred percent. And if I'M NOT MISTAKEN ADAM. Yock is on the keyboards. Do they brought any keyboard element in so adra? And it's one of those songs too and I'm trying to remember like is there a song we're just one of them? Sings before this because ad rock does the whole thing is the whole thing and he does the squeal and you watch it and Mike these on the drama and they have a they have a percussion guy with them. Mca's on the on the base just standing up there. All shy like in the background is that I thought Yok I thought Adam is on the keyboard. You know what? There's a keyboard guy next to him. I'm going to have to look this up again. Just you to get he. I think there's a keyboard guy next to him and he didn't have to eat bus out the based on that one. If I'm talking out of my ass I apologize. Time doesn't earthers a basis. Who doesn't move yes. I think that's I think that's I. That's some musician because I here real quick and see as I bring it up here because I think it was hit. He's got the hat on the whole thing. Let me just think letterman shakes his hand like he thinks it's Adam Yuck but I thought yok was on the On the keyboard I could definitely be mistaken. There's the base. See now the next to him Mike on the drums so good. It's is on the base and there's a dude. I don't even see a keyboard here. There's keyboard by where Paul Shaffer was close to where she wasn't share playing borders jumping around but it looks like MCA on the base. Keeping his head down with a hat on. Wait till you see the keep order. John I will keep an eye on that in the suits going on over here because its way off to the side here. They're just focusing on the three guys in the percussion over to the side. But that's it looks like a Korean Dude. Playing the keyboards jumping around. He's definitely it's definitely not MCI MCI as the one who has got just his head tilted down on the base over there then they got the DJ behind. But I mean this is just absolutely amazing. Nine hundred ninety four. They came out and crush that on Letterman. Amazing my right. I mean that's just that's just top notch right there. Yeah all right. This is your simple song to play guitar hero. You know like it's not that difficult. I mean as a blink one eighty two fan. I know what it's like. One Chord one. I'm a Green Bay Fan. I know exactly what you're referring two hundred percent so sure that's MCA balcony. Sure I'm pretty. I would say go back and look at it again here while we're playing on but it looks like he's got the Sinatra Fedora. Kind of tap down over sizable light. Blue One looks like he's playing the base there. I remember he was the Bass player. You know punk ish kind of bands that they were doing so of course he is the basis. But if somebody knows for sure I'm one of these like one of those things where you're just wrong and you're still arguing it so you can call me out for being eighty. I thought he was. Because there's keyboards on. Yes that song and you're right and and I think they're actually playing Schafer's keyboards. I think it's Paul Shaffer Keyboards. I think they literally because it's far enough away from the rest of the band that they have to have a different camera angle to go over and get the dude on the keyboards but I don't believe that's MCI's I'm looking at it. I don't believe that's an IRA bomb asshole. You're not this is to nine hundred ninety four. We're trying to recall this. But here's the important part. This is definitively without a doubt one of the songs you would have to put on the mount. Rushmore of Beastie boys songs. Because it's it's got a it's got just this tight. It's the it was a development of tighter. Feel compared to what you had had on on unlicensed ill. It's got a tighter feel for a number of these certainly than the old school stuff that they had. This is where they had really sort of re evolved as not just the musician aspect of it. Being able to incorporate that into the music as popular sabotage was and this is still I would have to say I mean if if we were talking about best boys. This is a top three if not if not certainly the number one. It's at least a discussion. For the number one Beastie Boys Song of very strong case to be the best Beastie Boys Song of all time not in the video on it as well. Yeah and that live performance because to me I knew that they played instruments because of rock hard. That wasn't but I think you're absolutely right for a lot of people like Holy Shit. These guys are dying like playing the guitar here. And then you realize all this shit. That's my on the why he's plays the drums like if you hadn't if it hadn't really clicked before this was the time in which it clicked and you're like wow. That's incredibly impressive. Yeah and the song itself is amazing. And it's funny too. I think they reveal this in the book. Or maybe I saw it on an interview of like what the song is because everybody had their theories of sabotage was Was All about. And it's really one of the producers like they thought that one of their producers messing with them. Like most beastie boys thing you could ever have happened like it's not some big conspiracy. If they think they're producers being jerk write songs about him right. There's not some deep meaning about some the Chinese government involvement in. It's not that nope nope don't worry about this at all. Don't don't let that be an issue at producer is sabotage. That's the only thing you need to worry about at that point. And that's what gets us the second song. We're carving into the face of Mount Rushmore Boy Song More Grid Mighty Song we now had sabotage on Mount Rushmore. Tom Com then front Were the Mustang. All man listen. Do yourself a favor if you haven't already if you didn't do it while we were playing that song go and check out the letterman video with those guys playing it live and you will. It changed my mind. For the Beastie boys it not just because I knew I mean I knew going back to. She's on it. I knew that they were playing their instruments Adam. I knew that that was the case with Adam around from the NFL network but it was a different thing to see it like you knew that they were writing these songs. You knew that they had skills. You knew that they were putting later on when you get like mullet head and other kind of their. You know the punk rock type of stuff out there Makes a ton of sense but this was the first real time of going. They are playing to a record. I mean yeah. They've got the DJ there but they aren't playing to a record. They're actually playing the instruments. It was a it was groundbreaking me. Yeah it's like when you watch the end of a Jackie Chan movie and they show the outtakes where he's doing his own stunts. Yeah like Oh my God. He's doing it himself. Yeah Yeah I remember talking to. I remember talking to Jason them about him doing his own stunts and being stunned. Like dude you do. Yeah and then. They had the harness on the back of the helicopter. Like you did what? Why would you do that? They have people that can do that. Nope that's every time I watch a movie of his. I'm looking to see that him jumping on the bus to then jump on the freeway because he does those things. It's amazing yeah. Why would you do that? You're too handsome for that. Let the other people are saying. Come on let a not so handsome person. Let somebody. Who's not my man crush do that? Let some stunt guy who kind of looks like your has to shave his head to appear to look like you let him do it. I really I need to see more Jason State than that's all I'm trying to. That's the point in trying to make if we walk away knowing that today it's Wide Leo. Dicaprio had his own Stutman and once upon a time in Hollywood. Exactly there's a reason for it doesn't just happen folks. There's a reason for it. Keep them pretty. That's what I say. All right rank. It's time now for a little game that we're going to combine the two. It's something that I usually like to do here on the on. The Mount Rushmore is called. Today you learnt but we're GONNA come that with five questions for ranked so we'll do our little introduction. I will ask you a question. You'll give an honest answer if I feel like. It's an honest answer. Then I'll give you some beastie boy knowledge here we go with today. You alerts today the to tell you today today on the Beastie Boys Mount Rushmore Adam rank of the NFL network. He's sharing his beastie boys song that he feels should be on the mount. Rushmore of Beastie boys songs the foremost career defining and edible. Start off with questions for you. And then if I feel like you've answered honestly I will give you a little beastie boys nugget of information so being on the NFL network and somebody who is a fantasy football God who has helped me win at least one championship league? What celebrity has most shocked you with their fantasy football obsession? Oh that is You know what I. It's always striking to me when professional wrestlers because I also liked profession. Yes yes when? Those guys are so into it and it's not necessarily like. Oh this is kind of a laugh. I sort of enjoy. Yeah I know I'm seriously into it like Mr Perfect son. Johann always that Ryan loves professional wrestling or excuse me loves fantasy football. The MS loves fantasy football guys have really been into it and I'm trying to. It's funny because those guys will hit me up. Not The MS but Johannes does all the time like he's always hitting me up wants to know is totally into it Eric. Young WHO's another wwe superstar? He's actually now become like a radio. Voice of Fantasy sports for hockey especially so these guys are like super into it and it. It's it's funny that these guys do it players who are into it players who recognize what's going on but also when you find some of those players to like for for instance along started following me because I'm a bears guide right. Dm's me one time and wants to know what's the proper order to watch star. Wars movies fiance fiancee's never seen it. What are we start with them? Like all four or five. Yeah one two three six seven eight nine. That's the correct order. That's the way it goes right. That's fantastic so it doesn't even necessarily have to be about. I mean then maybe the fantasy football connection started but you have the contacts on another comes in training. Think who like when you saw that Matthew Berry? Yeah had all the dudes from the movie. Yes the avengers be. That was pretty shocking to me. Yeah and I. I haven't had that interaction with them but we like. Oh my God like Ryan Reynolds is talking about fantasy football and you think about the dorkiest of the door like as we are. I was Our it's like one of the coolest guys like you talk about. Man Crashes Like Ryan Reynolds might be mine absolutely. Even though I'm a guy in green lantern sucked but horrible movie. Yeah I agree with you. Well that in a league like that's amazing that I mean first of all. I think you're bringing up a terrific point here which is have you been in contact with Henry cavill and all because I think if you can get superman in and you can get. I'm not I don't even remember who the Batman Dude is. It's going to be this new one. It's not Ben Affleck anymore but I mean could get together. Can I say something? Yeah please by the way. I think that this is important to point out. Yeah I don't know if you've noticed but our movies have been crushing marvel. Thank you marvel's movies now our garbage. Yeah they're not good. You guys had iron man. That's a fine. Yeah the first Captain America was really good right but since that time and I I pretty much don't watch much of. Don't sit there and watch him in. Like I don't watch the full movie like I'll catch pieces of it here and there yeah. D.c has been crushing it. 'cause obviously the the Batman movies have always been good right but now you start looking going back to like wonder woman. Yeah that was good. Aquaman and you made aquaman good come on. I was that was fun movie. She's Zam was really good and I will say this Justice League. I enjoyed in the theater. Stocks trying to go back and watch number one. You had the whole movie laid out. It should have been the justice league versus zombies Superman. Or that's your movie. Yes that's your home. That's the whole reason. You would get everybody together like zombies Superman's back and he's pissed right but instead they're like. Oh here comes Lois. Lane in a in a left-right solved it and I'm like what what is happening like. That should be your home movie. They they started the water stuff down. They wash it down in the Batman versus Superman would just yeah too much stuff. Yes when you didn't need to do. Although I will say the Batman Versus Superman for me still a good movie I will still watch it. Not bags meet like makes me like the man of steel more aware that ends and then it ties into Batman versus Superman. Yeah if they would have made it about an hour an hour last. I would have been corporate. I'm with you on that one hundred percent that said you need to get Robert Pants in. Who's going to be playing the new Batman? And you gotta get Jason Momoa into a fantasy league if you can make that happen rank anything. I can do to help you with that. We need to get and prove to everybody. That the DC fantasy league is going to be way more interesting. The avengers fantasy. Oh my God. We'd have the rock as a black Adam. Yes exactly. That's what I'm saying. First of all. That's that's just a dream come true because then if you're talking about it and we've already discussed now my trifecta of man crushes which is the rock which is Ryan Reynolds and Jason State. And that's the TRIFECTA right there. It's the Trident of man crush for me uniform. Yeah all right. That's it. The beastie boys the video sabotage was and not just was but inspired the opening sequence of the movie. Trainspotting inspired by the beastie boys video sabotage. What yes trainspotting. The beginning sequence the opening sequence. They took that from the concept. The beastie boys sabotage put together. Oh my gosh that in the book little bit of Information Right there. That's a good question. I feel. That's where I heard it initially. Maybe I maybe I heard before that before that prior to that. But that's that is a true statement. I've just given to you right there. All right. That's amazing Adam rank. What happens to former Alabama quarterback in the NFL draft? What's what what's going to happen. He's not gonNA fall too far. I can't I can't imagine a situation where he falls past the dolphins or the chargers. I knell that Justin. Herbert seems like a safe play. Or whatever but you don't the way the. Nfl is situated set up now especially with rookie. Contracts that you're not paying these guys a hundred million dollars right and if this was ten years ago were tool was probably going to have a massive holdout. I wouldn't touch him for the injuries. But because of the commitment is so minimal. And it's so easy to pivot off your quarterbacks you look at what the cardinals did with Josh Rosen. When they went to Cuyler Murray you look at. What's the Carolina? Panthers did with Cam Newton when they got out of Jimmy. Clausen right you can pivot off of Tula and you can go some other direction if it doesn't work out now if you are the both. The chargers or the dolphins have veteran quarterbacks who could probably lead your team this season at a to needs a little more time he would be afforded that so. I think that he goes spit. I would say the dolphins saying I. The dolphins can't pass them. They just can't do it. It'd be ridiculous. Isn't that kind of hit me as somebody's gotTa Take Him. Even if it's like you said even if the gamble that you have to pivot past at some point you at least got to take the solid college performance. He put out there and all right. We're going to give him a shot at this. It's worth at least I mean that's a fifth pick I imagine that's you don't see him falling past that are making it out of the first round. There's not enough concern over. Oh his fragile little hip. There's he's young enough that's not like he's an eighty year old man right now. That's very true. And the dolphins have three first round pick so they've got a lot of draft so even if the dolphins were scared at number five and say they didn't take a quarterback. Let's say that they took Tristan works. Okay they did whatever. They took a running. Who knows they still have other picks in the first round to where they could probably draft him again or if the unthinkable happens it would probably be a similar situation to what happened to Lamar Jackson? A couple of years ago Where he started tumbling in the by the way my my mock draft that year is told the dolphins and Mike you guys should take Lamar Jackson. He would be good for you. Whenever godless intimate know who listens to Adam rank. Come on but if if it happened and we were at pick twenty eight or so. Yeah somebody would jump back into the first round. The bears might even do it. You know something somebody would because you get that fifth year option. Yeah that's what makes it so desirable to have this quarterback and it's probably why he's not gonNA fall out of the first round. It's why Jordan love won't fall out of the first round and it's who knows of Jalen hurts even makes it dirt. Jake frahm one of those guys but right to as not dropping out of the first round right. Gotcha all right. Here's your a little nugget of information. The Oxford English dictionary cites the Beastie boys as being responsible for coining the term mullet in one thousand nine hundred ninety four to refer to the popular nineteen eighty s hairdo remember. They had a song. We'd we refer to this a little bit earlier but they had a song called mullet head. That was is amazing and apparently nobody else in the history of music had really put together at that. Point up to nineteen ninety-four any indication of what a mullet was. Yes we hit all seen Billy Ray. Cyrus at that point we were familiar with billy. Ray Cyrus we seen right. Let's we knew of mullets. But the Beastie boys sang about. Molly's have you ever seen a mullet wife? This it was a very punk rock song but super cool again. We knew that they could play their instruments. And did they did play their instruments but they were according to the dictionary the Oxford English dictionary they coined the term mullet. I love that makes perfect sense. All right Adam rank who walks away from the NFL draft as the biggest winner. Who's GonNa who's GonNa end up scoring the biggest as you've done? I know you've done a number of mocks but as you're walking away from this who do you think? What does the team you in? Your mind's eye says while they kicked ass in that draft there's two teams. I would look at number one. We talked about the Miami Dolphins as long as they take as long as they take to. If their second pick they could take McCain mckinney As their safety and if they can go back and the gay. Let's say you you have to. You have mckanie because they need to solve their safety issue. Say they talk alignment and I think that for them. At the end of the first round I would take a chance on Austin Jackson who has a WHO has a chance of falling but he again is one of those players who is going to be very good. Yeah and if the dolphins are already looking a couple years ahead and that maybe to a dozen play the season maybe Austin Jackson is not their day one starter but I think a couple of years from now they could end up being pretty good. And being like yeah. What a great draft that they had they. They got their quarterback of the future. They got their lime of the future. So I think they're going to be in a pretty good position. I think the raiders have been drafting really well as long as they get jerry judy or CD lamb they get one of those receivers they get some cornerback help at their second pick that they get from the bears they could go with the Henderson out of Florida. I think that they could do pretty well. You know they could go linebacker. They could go edge rusher. There's probably a number of different ways. They can go. I think that they've shown especially with Mike Mayock that they do pretty well. I'm also excited to see what Washington do. Because normally in their situation I would be. I would tell them to take a quarterback. Yeah I know that having chased young is amazing Ryan will point to like a look at what look that. Look what Bosa did look at what Nick. Bosa did for the forty niners rushes true. And that's huge. But they already had their franchise quarterback in place. Yes that's why that were. Yes good points so that Washington does not have that luxury know what they can draft chase young this year. And there's a pretty good chance the redskins are gonNA suck next year right and they could actually be in the mix. That's not Lawrence. That's a good way to look at this. I mean yeah okay so you make it through this year and maybe you're playing you know Detroit. Lions football under five hundred on some level. That doesn't mean that you can't still come back the following year with some top players in line ready to go. And that's where you start to make things happen right exactly and if you look at you know fifteen years from now when we're watching a football life in twenty dynasty it'd be like Oh. They took as young in the next year. They got Trevor Lawrence. Yes and they never lost another game for thirty years and then they they challenged Tom. Tom Brady and the Patriots in regard. Yeah I mean that would be exactly eventually they bill belichick to come in and coach to and Ron goes the way of the Dodo. But that's just that's the way that story all play together one hundred percent. It would be ironic for Bill Belichick to Washington similar. Another way. That Vince Lombardi did yeah and then change their uniforms to make them look like like an old school. Washington redskins photo yellow helmets with the that was Lombardi being like we want to look like the baggers. Yeah the little cursive are kind of look at that. Feel yeah that was. That's a very good point very much an F. You if you could have just put a middle finger on the side of the helmet. He would have done that are he. Would've yes Iraq. Here we go today. You learnt that. The beastie boys recorded an unreleased country album in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine intended to be a Christmas gift for friends and family of the group are what in fact the was called Country Mike and as indicated by lie detailing. A little bit about it. You had some a lot of people seem to have any confused. I'm MC I don't know anything about country. Music happens. Be Dining Country Mike and I. I've known the man. He's a bit of a loan loose. Cannon is actually been violent at times because he comes from an abuse background herself. You talking about this because it sort of these triggers it can be. I can get very emotional on the topic. That's true so thank you. Yeah I you know I keep a lot kept an about a lot of controversy surrounding it hurts. Sometimes contrived versi around Mike. Now listen again. This was an album that was put together for the sole purpose of being a gift to family and friends during the holidays. But of course one of the things you know Adam. Thank God for the Internet because then as soon as the Internet came around and you could put stuff together on the Internet. You end up with music like this guy from country. Mike just once called sloppy drunk and it is can the album cover. Is Mike Justin Cowboy Year but listen stop? Drunk long days in your goes panorama dropped digging up and I kid you not. It's a full length album and it's all country music like that that they put together for family and friends never actually be released but thank God for the Internet Internet's good for a couple of things out of rain. The Internet shirt does smoke right. I mean I don't know who they got. Is that possible to add rocks playing the slide guitar there? There's no video but man. Oh man that's I mean that's some old fashioned Kenny. Rogers Shit right that he's dig up and play on the slide guitar brutal good stuff so anyways and so you know. The whole album is out on youtube so you can listen to it in its entirety. That's that's my number three. All right here we go last question for you. Here rank You have to be quarantine for three weeks with one of the following. You choose. Michael Fabiano Dave Damasec Akbar or your last ex girlfriend oud three weeks. You are quarantined with one of them. Who Do you choose now? What are the what are the ground rules for the last ex girlfriend? What are we giving a hall pass? What is happening? I can't guarantee that you're going to have to work that angle up on the three week element there. So it's just GonNa be you know however things ended however crazy that individual may be comes into play here however however hot that individual may be comes into play here But without all is there would it be? I know you've already sung the praises of one Dave Damasec and rightfully so I might add your correct about Being on the The Mount Rushmore of NFL network People but would would he be the person? You'd want to be quarantined for three weeks with. I don't think it would be bad but given the chance to hang out with Akbar bars at different human being and I think that for three weeks I would wanNA finally solve the riddle but as far Mula and try to figure it like try to get to the root cause sometimes like I love him but sometimes I'm wondering like some of the words and things that come on. Are you having a go at us? Are you working? Are you like? Are you some Malkovich vaccine right right? I can't speak. This is what listen seriously. You Got Akbar Basel. A meal out there. Pretty smoothly so difficult. That's the best part. That's the easiest part for you here. Would you be afraid that over that three week timeframe he would make you do American Ninja Warrior? Shit like would. He'd set up stuff in his living room. That's what I want. Yeah data because you know he's the best best in shape so there would be you know some of that stuff going on. Yeah okay all right. Talk about the raiders. Lot talking about American Ninja Warrior set up the couches obstacle courses. There'd be some Ninja Warrior cushions from the swing swinging from the ceiling. How did you get those up there bar? I don't understand how you manage to make that happen. This is an off and there's a pool in your living room. How did you do that right? So quick follow up here Same choices who would you catch corona virus than spend twenty four hours with? Oh my gosh. That's not even fair. I can't do it to my coworkers. You so you're saying you're acts that's the direction you're going okay. All right you're talking. You're talking about like how hot she wants. That's like fifteen years ago. That's a huge risk. That is that's what is and during that time have you seen. Have you stumbled across a facebook page? Anything like she reached out to you saying thallium on the NFL network and use us so help me with my fantasy team. Anything like that. Come up at all. I'm sure it's probably see on my on my facebook. I don't I don't use my full name. Oh okay good good. Lock my middle name. This is helping people stock as but my middle name is the last name of famous comic. Oh so people were like what the what are you doing. Adam Sandler rank is that is that Adam Sandler rank. Is that what we're talking about here? People are like. Why are you going by Adam Sandler? Now and he'll like no no no. That's my middle name right. Oh that's kind of weird and you're kind of like not that kind of comic really even different. Yeah Yeah I gotcha but you know what happens with that. Is that people from the probably know as well as anybody like people from the industry. You're like oh you got one mutual friend. You're like all right and there was one person who we had a bunch of mutual friends and with somebody lived out in Las Vegas who worked at the four queens and I know a lot of people who work in these hotels casinos. And everything's I must know this person because I'm out there every time out in Vegas. I'm drunks probably know. And then like his first post that I saw jump in my time line was so horrific that it was an instant block not even likes news. This Person Priority Days. It was block. You didn't even do their thing where you're gonNA check and see if he does this shit all the time if this is just a one off. What's he do this here? Like I gotTA check that. No you just go to stop this now. I can't afford to have any more this. It was pretty bad anyways. Yes I don't want to get to political but it did not jive with me politically and I was offended. It set up some red flags did. Yeah Yeah I got red flags and caps subtle like that all right here. We go rank last last. Today you learn today you learnt in his last will and Testament Adam York. Mca The boys left. Instructions that his his music could not be used in advertising. Yeah we don't know if that's GONNA be able to hold up in court. Yeah somebody did but like they. Don't I mean they're trailers like sabotage used in trailers? But I don't yeah I can't think of anything that's like you're not seeing a low brow commercial although I don't even think they make brought commercials anymore lowenbraun anymore all of this going back to the eighties and early nineties portions of things here. They don't make Mickey's big mouth commercials with with sabotage or fight for your right to party in it so looks like that. That's holding true. Doesn't it a little bit? Yeah I'll give him credit for that one. That was a good call. I agree with you on that one. And that's the Beastie boys today you learn to tell you today all right rank. We've got a couple more songs that we've got gotta get to here. So let's move forward with the next one in line again. This is the Beastie Boys. Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore Beastie boys songs Adam rank from the NFL network is kind enough to bring those ones that he thinks should be carved into the wall. So far we've got a fight for your right to party sabotage. Both up on the Mount Rushmore Naive. Only got two left and right. I know that you're you're looking at yourself. Anything TO PICK THE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PICK. The next two are they. Are they correct? Are they the ones that are supposed to be there? What's the next one in line I guarantee you? They're not the correct pick. This is what I really do. Believe gotta put intergalactic on their. Oh Nice I love that song and maybe this is me picking a song that I really love. But everything about it. I just from the the opening tracks the cosmic again you know. I hope that I'm not being influenced by the video and everything like that but I still believe that this is one of their. I think is one of the best songs I think is one of the most important songs and again. I'm trying to find different things that sound different to wear them when you start putting these four songs together. You're like this. Is the same band like right there. And they've got great licks in there and great lyrics. I should say and everything I'M GONNA go. I don't know how you feel about intergalactic without it's going to be my third choice. It is a solid song. I also love me. Some Body Movin. Let me get some action from the back section. That's one of my favorites but intergalactic. I think you're right again. It re introduced us to the Beastie boys who we were all very familiar with. But when you've already done everything as the Beastie boys had already done I mean they did every you had so many hits in your career and then you come out with intergalactic an entirely different evolution of your sound. Everything about intergalactic is amazing. Everything about it from the subtleties. The fact that it was a relatively short song on top of like every everything that came into play and putting this together made it. Definitively a whole new element. Of the Beastie boys that you were just like wow what more could they possibly do at this point I mean and and that's exactly what they did? They highlight for you. We ate done. It's the Beastie Boys' intergalactic on Mount Rushmore. This is the Mount Rushmore. Beastie boys songs this is Mount Rushmore. And this is that point right here at rank. Nfl Network Fantasy football. God that we're down to the last one. This is the one where you've got to think long and hard as we are about to chisel one more face into the side of this. Mount Rushmore of Beastie boys songs. And what will that Song be? Don't tell me yet. Don't tell me yet. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back. It's the final song and don't I know that you feel the urge to punch yourself? I know that you feel the urge to really think twice about this. Change Up Adam asking you to just stick with your gut. Go with your gut here. You're going have to change it. Stick with your gut here. What would Akbar do stick with your guts when we come back this is like you making it through the living room of his? Ninja Warrior. Course when we come back here amount rock more. It's hard enough to drink until the endless hours of the morning. If you are celebrities I mean how the world class athletes opposed to find time for the boys room. Hi I'm cold running back. Dominic Rhodes drunkenly stumble out of a bar. Three o'clock in the morning after holding my wins for hours some urinary. That's why I use messy lands. I can just go went on the go. Countless our land rigorously urine stream testing me. My girlfriend my Taya Posse. And the whole colts offense of lack of taking a leak in my boxer briefs and leave no aside. What don't take my word for many have been tested about some Hollywood like Terry. Oh my God I dispute in Dominic Rodeos underpants on. There's no e. kids and with the odor absorption. You can't even mel that. I just pound thirteen. Applet Fergie I'd never heard of Nancy. Lyons Furby We know don't feel like you have to hold your bladder like a camera anymore. Finally you can drink Lindsay Lohan Paris the under the table and that has to worry about burdening you're black or Khakis again dominate rose. Manson landed today. Because you don't have the time car. They'll have his auction down fast now. Already got your business whenever three inches time daily on a vote and with my finger. All right buddy here. We are last song on the Mount Rock. More for Beastie Boys' Adam rank. Nfl Network joins us. And there's a there's kind of a kind of a sad moment here to think that this is the last one really really is and it's also very pensive. Yeah I'm going to see more clown emojis for this choice. Then when I when I picked the forty niners three and thirteen last year. Wow let me tell you something though. Their quarterback was coming off in a into right. Nick Bosa would. Nobody Knew Nick. Bosa was going to be that good. Their cornerbacks. This previous season did not have a single interception right like a lot of things happening that Kinda who will sanders. Who's receiving for them? Who's running for them? You're just there was a lot more questions than there were answers. Yes that didn't turn out well but I moved on on this one too. Okay all right so thinking ready are you. Are you already feeling like this? This is going to be a bad decision. Are you already getting there as we get ready to? Chisel the fourth facing we're going to have to we're GONNA have to talk about it song and I'll I'll explain it all right all right to highlight. Just let's make a couple of quick statements here as Liz. Let's listen this is a amount rock more? And if I don't know if you're familiar with the Mount Rushmore but the Mount Rushmore has Washington. Yes it has Lincoln yes it has Jefferson yes an has teddy Roosevelt right now when that was built Teddy Roosevelt. That was there a modern type of person like it spanned a lot of generation. There's a reason was teddy. Roosevelt a better president than John. Adam will that probably but you know what I'm saying is like it's spans. Yes a lot of different things. Yes and I think a lot of people would sit there and they'd be like well. There'll be some songs that are going to be ignored. And Can I. Can I just say what it is you? Let's I also let's let's pay a tribute here much like doing Hollywood. When they have the memorial to people who have passed away on the Oscars. Let's take a look at some of the songs that didn't make it like over to the Butte on your right. Hey Ladies is sitting right there waiting for their return. Also what you want what you want. No sleep till Brooklyn. The carcass of it being picked away by the vultures one right. That's the one like that. I think a lot of people in this spot would be like. Why are you going to do no sleep till Brooklyn the bands from Brooklyn Understand that but we've we've already established that their first album was groundbreaking. Yes and we had the most groundbreaking song yes. We don't have make some noise on their know. What you what you what you want right. We don't have that we don't have sure shot's No F- listen. This wasn't an easy thing to do. It was not. So here's go on get get together. All A lot of people will probably shocked. I would like to even add to this route down. That's another one of the. I mean. These are all great songs. Any of them could have been on the face. Any of them could have been on the face. But there's one spot left and rank when we look at that one spot. What are we carving into the face of the Rushmore? Check it out who it out? Nice so this is like the most current Beastie Boys. This is out to the five boroughs. And you think about it and you think about these bands are still around and you see hey of. Acdc asshole touring with axl. Rose is their lead or whatever right. They're playing Shuki all night. Long Bob Hits you made thirty years ago. Yes Guns N. Roses playing hits from thirty years. Ago Right Beastie boys and I like Chinese democracy. That wasn't fair to guns. Rose it's cool. The beastie boys still put out quality music and this goes into the arts So now they're in the and when the five boroughs came out there were a lot of hip hop it evolved shaped it and they came out and they just put it out on the table. Just slapped it out there and check check it out. Might not be your favorite song but I think it was very important to show that this was a generational band. This wasn't an eighties novelty act. This wasn't a nineties Tribute Act This was a generational band that just spoke to two different generations. Yeah to get into the. To the era of millennials. You went from Gen X. Millennials. You did you went from you. Went from watching nine. Oh Two one zero to this being on the. Oc At one point in time but when this was dropped in two thousand and four again it was a whole new level of Beastie boys. It wasn't just over. Those guys are still around. It was all those guys are still doing stuff. They're still cranking shit out and they dropped it hot and this was you know they're sort of tribute to the five boroughs to their hometown to where they were from accepted. Most in this was the opening song that just kind of drove everybody to what was going to be one of the last things. The beastie boys as abandoned together. And I think there's nothing more fitting probably I can't think of anything right now is more fitting than having this fourth and final song ranked. Good selection your. I'm personally I'm a huge fan of this as well as triple trouble. Those are two of my favorites from this but check it out the fourth and final song being carved into the mount rock more of Beastie Boys Song TV adding that you cling to grandma's house fast to get off did face bat soap. Judge also check it and been listen when I'm applying appeal. You please please upset cable. God don't talk with your doctor. You WanNa Battle Guinea and hip hop out the free. What what what. God damnit right. That is a good song. The beastie boys I feel like I at heard it. You feel better and listen. That was it was released in April. Two Thousand and four. So when you're kind of thinking of that timeframe you you make your way from spring into summer that to me hits me as song that coupled with a couple months later when they released a triple trouble and then you've got that the line about on a hot day with the ice lot like all of that just hits me up as this is going into summertime and at a point in time. We'll we're stuck in the houses and we can't get out of the houses because a corona virus right now. I like having that kind of feeling brought back for sure and you know what you think about. Two thousand four in young younger people who were listening to the radio and people still listen to the radio in two thousand four. I believe I believe you're correct but there would be. You can think of you know some kid who would probably never heard of the beastie boys again. They're like these boomers. I don't let these guys. But when they hear that song they're like this is a great song I'm going to buy this album. And then you're like if you're not listened to their old ship go back and listen to it and then you're you're the one cool thing about music is that you can jump into any banned from any era and still have been new music to you and people like. Oh you check out any new music is like you have never heard of George Harrison till today. Yeah and if you now go into his Cadillac. That's new music to you. You've never heard my third. My thirteen year old daughter loves the Beatles. She's been getting the bills now. She's also a huge billy Irish fans. So she's got her favorites but she can easily flip on a dime and just go listen to the entire afternoon to the Beatles because that's new to her because looking through any number of Beatles CDs or digital that you download now. That's fun and exciting to her. Because she's found it to be brand new even though this stuff is well over fifty sixty years old so On that side of it. You're absolutely right. And for those millennials who are just kind of ironically walking around with a DEF Jam t shirt on and having no idea what that meant you should know who the Beastie boys are or you're gonNA get punched in the face absolutely and you think of the the kids who are listening to Konya who's Big Connie was big fifty cent. Yeah that song comes out like Oh this is great and you probably went out and discovered whole new band that you were never listening to lie. It's important in due course. What are my neighbors who is in high? School runs around in a run. Dmc shirt right and one time I was stoked. I'm like Oh my God and I wanted to talk about it and she's like I just wearing the t shirts and I'm like you're the worst. You are the worst human being ever I have made. There's a rule in our house here. The Bauer cost rank. Which is this. If you're going to wear a rock band t shirt you have to know. Not just three to five of their songs but you have to know the lyrics to the song so my daughter who this year has been getting into like rock. T shirts has a guns N. Roses appetite for destruction shirt and she knows every song on the album every lyric she can recite rock. It is so it's so easy easy. And then she also has an aerosmith t shirt and she can name and I feel like a good parent about this. She can name at least Right now if I were to bring on five five era song she could name right off the top of her head. So that's amazing. I feel like that for me as a guideline if you're GONNA get your kid. A T shirt. That has a band of any sort on there. They need to know at least five songs pretty well and be able to recite lyrics in order to really understand who that band is before putting it on so we had a test this year as we're getting closer to Easter here and got my daughter a pink. Floyd shirt that's going to be coming from. The Easter Bunny. Had to do test with her about pink floyd songs and whether she knew five one I feel like we got her to five. That's when she's getting the t shirt. I'm excited for them. I my daughter Likes Ave Disney and she sings at the Weezer Song. That's in frozen to and I think she's a little bit too young to really get the nuance of everything. Although she does she does thing Does Sing Flagpole Sitta Harvey Danger. Nice Kenny if you ever do the Harvey Danger. Mount Mount Rock Rushmore. Put me down for that. He got full full-time. Yeah that's it. It's that just four times in the plan. Oddly Enough Flagpole Sitta also yeah sit sit up that's right you gotta you gotTa like the way they wrote it. You got to pronounce it that way. That's about You know I do that. I've done that with both of my children is. I would sing a song to them because you know I five make sure singing songs to them and everything. Yeah and so my daughter the song that we I would sing to her when she was a little baby was kiss from a rose just because I wanted something ridiculous. So I'd saying a little seal kiss from a rose nice and then for my boy. I've done flagpole Sitta just because it's ridiculous and it also reminds you of something that was going on in your life. Yes when that happened because when my daughter was born it was the season where the The Super Bowl is held in San Francisco. Right and seal was the musical guest at the tailgate party. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah what's on? So That's how I associated you know. Oh that's when you know you were born. When I saw a seal you know in Francisco and so we had a producer on. Nfl Fantasy League one whose name was just an still is. His name is Justin Harvey. And I'm like oh. Harvey danger also started seeing that song ironically. So that's why my boy that's why he has that song territory. Everybody's coming again. Yeah all for me my a mat on the ground with the Moles. I had of for my technically for both of my girls now. The thirteen year old and the six year old. They will be me. The big hair ban guy would sing night ranger sister Christian when they were up in the middle of the night and then usually like right around bedtime to get them to try to sleep. I would Very faintly sing warrant heaven. That would be the other one that I would say to them. Oh that's nice. Yeah I mean sound like crap on him sing it but I know Janey Lane but who is the best that I could do for them? Who was the band that sang? Don't tell me you love me. That was night ranger. Okay yeah that was their other. Their biggest hit was that you know that sappy ballad they ended up playing In the porn movie and then this was there they had that and you can still rock in America. Were there too big upbeat. I wouldn't even I think they were. They had been categorized a one point instead of heavy metal. They were called stainless steel. At one point I love that you called it the porn movie. The Porn Unites I. That is such a thing like whenever stuff is going terrible. Yeah like Oh I feel like I'm trying to sell baking powder is coke and there's some cabin boy lighting firecrackers in the corner while sister Christian is playing. I know it's real long description. Yeah that's an iconic song. Do they have to other songs or they just they know they do for us through true diehards again? I was born and raised in the bay area. So are bay area band and between The don't tell me you love me. You can still rock in America's sister Christian. They had a song called good by which was kind of a ballad That was pretty big. Was kind of like the part two to sister. Christian if you will that a couple of other Pretty big yeah I I would say there's definitely a a A Mount Rushmore of night ranger that awaits us all beautiful. Yeah Right Adam rank thank you so much my friend now roy quick. What's happening with you guys and the NFL going into what is I expect you know? By the time we get to September. We'll probably have a football season. Is there any indication that that that might be put on hold on some level? So this is an evergreen podcast. Somebody I don't want this to come out as this is way above my pay grade right. I'll do what you want me to sit here. And continue to put out videos about all decade teams and mock drafts. I'm happy to do it done so I think it just like everybody else. We're just hopeful that there's going to be some sort of normalcy. The the football season is played at practice facilities or whatever it is. I hope that there is a football season. And I hope if you're listening to this in twenty twenty five you're not like what the F. Resistant about remotely come close. Listen to half. These are unique times. Perhaps we need a unique football season or at least a start a unique start to a football season before we all get back to normalcy on some level and even that I think would make us feel somewhat normal. So maybe that's we need to be looking forward to yeah. They just had like four cameras at a practice. Facility teams. Were playing like yeah in. I don't necessarily need to have the skycam hovering over the quarterback he's making the play calling the huddle just give me some solid. Go Go back to one thousand nine hundred seventy six version of NFL. Give me two cameras and the teams playing and I'll be good to go. That's all I kind of needed this point hundred percent. I'm with you. In other beastie boy news while we have had a delay in releasing the Beastie boys story and I Max theaters that's the movie directed by Spike Jones. It will be on Apple. Tv starting April twenty fourth. So make sure you get out there and check that thing out. Haidar picks think you could do better tweet us at Mount Rushmore. Mtr M. are Ian. Let me know I may need you to help me? Co Host upcoming rock. Moore's my thanks to the NFL network fantasy guru. Adam rank find him on twitter at Adam rank that's at Adam rank or you'll just see him singing frozen two numbers during the NFL draft like the rest of us. So tell your def jam. Mommy's and your beastie social distancing but still coaching soccer on zoom. Dad's about this. Podcast subscribe and we are going to be here for your thirty. 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And it's a charitable donation once again. That's the ring. Dot Com backslash W C K. I'm Shawn Fantasy and this. Is the big picture a conversation? Show about Beastie Boys. That's right beastie. Boys made a movie beastie boys story which is directed by Spike Jones and available to watch right now on apple. Tv plus. If you're like me and worship Beastie boys you need to watch this movie later in the show. I'll be talking to add rock. And like diaw Beastie boys about their movie history their favorite fruits. How they're doing in quarantine. The New York Knicks documentaries that they want to see a bunch of other stuff as I tried to keep them focused on our conversation. A really love these guys beastie. Boys are my favorite band ever and it isn't even really close so to talk about them before we get to them. I asked the VIC Ferrari to my Alessandro Allegra. Join me it's Chris Ryan. Hi Chris. I've always seen myself more as a Nathan Wind Guy. I've been waiting my whole life to do this. Podcast so let's go. I'm very glad you're here with me. I can't think of anybody else. I'd WanNa have here other than you. Except maybe Mike the Inadequacy and they're coming later. So when I say beastie boys what's the first thing that pops in your head Chris? Probably the invention of cool so I think one thing that we've talked about a lot over the last twelve to eighteen months. We've had a lot of Quentin Tarantino podcasts. We've we celebrated a lot of his movies on the watchable. We talked about them on. Big Picture Podcast with him and something that comes up. Ally is kind of how he gave us a vocabulary or language to through which to understand culture and understand the world and I think the Beastie boys are equally responsible for that in both of our lives in terms of introducing us to so much music and so much other culture that wound up becoming just part of our like way in which we relate to the rest of the world through these like Kung Fu and exploitation movies through rap Reggae punk rock weird funk like all like it just basically made collectors and fans out of out of us at the risk of stepping on music exists. I wanted to ask you why you think you. And I to some extent to are so interested in figures who are all about basically like recombinant culture. You know who take all the disparate parts of stuff that they love and smash it all together because that is the thing that the movie and then returning to all of this music that I listened to over and over and over and over again in my life that I have thought about is like wow they really just jammed all the stuff they liked together to make something new like. What is it about that? The second part of what you said is the most important thing. Do you think about the people that we really respond to. Wu Tang clan quitting Tarantino. Beastie boys it means we're very basic very and B. It's the most important part is finding the second thing the thing that you're GonNa make out of all this shit. And that's what makes me so excited is when someone uses all these postmodern tools in these reconstructs. All these things out of this of Cultural Ephemera to say something else. Wootten Klan took all those Kung Fu movies and took all those samples but made something that could only have been made in Staten Island. You know back could only have made the music. He made with the experience that he had. And the Beastie boys could only have been the beastie boys by combining bad brains with run DMC. Yeah and I feel like it's not a mistake that so much of what we do at the ringer and so much of what you and I have been trying to do in. Our lives is basically celebrate and be enthusiastic about the things that we care about and I feel like these artists are the same way if you if you think about Beastie boys and you even look at the way they tell their story in the movie. It's just we really liked was the clash and grandmaster flash and Cheech and Chong and we were trying to find a way to make all those things make sense together and I feel the same way about what we do every day I feel about you and I love the NBA and we love Top Gun and we love. I love deb's I don't know how you feel Dad's but You know just trying to find a way to make all those things fit together so I feel like I have aped and tried to copy a lot of what those guys do. And I feel like a kinship to their their mission their creative project. Absolutely I mean like you and I don't mean to make it sound like you. And I are the Beastie boys here but you know. I think that we use the Internet the way other people would use a sampler right and we draw in all these different media. We'd take youtube videos. We take a picture and I think it was probably more the case before we started working professionally together in an editorial capacity but we would have like tumblers and blog spots and you were just kind of like throw a picture Steve McQueen up in an article you were writing about those face and it would have some sort of relationship and I think that that was our way of continuing along this tradition of mixing and matching different pieces of culture to say something about yourself. The thing that you said that I think is probably one of the most important parts of the movie that will nocco very remarked upon because a lot of it is going to be spent talking about. Yok and it should be because this is very much I think an image to him in a real moving tribute to their friend but when Mike D says in the beginning of the movie that he was just this weird kid who found the clash. Not only is that like. That's the origin story for a lot of people. Who like they find that one band? Whether it's the dead or the clash or you know run DMC. Whoever it is that makes them think that they are now. All of not alone in the world the clashes like a really really important. Template for the Beastie boys because they are basically A Crossroads Group A marketplace. At Crossroads Group. It's where all these different cultures are coming. And they're setting up their wares and you can pick and choose off these tables and then you go home and you make something out of it. And that's what the clash did too. I mean you can make a lot of arguments about appropriation. And whether or not the people who the clash were taken from or or paying homage to properly compensated for the work that they did And the same thing could go. For the Beastie boys but I think a lot more people know about Lee Perry. Because of the Beastie boys did not you know and and that's like a really really important act in culture. Everything is about timing too I think about when they hit the scene and who they were working with and on the one hand I guess there's an appropriation question. I think they've moved past that so effectively because they were just literally there with Russell. Simmons and Rick Rubin and run DMC making music together and they were a part of something that was essentially punk at the end of its first true like lightning rod phase at the end of the day and and rapid the Dawn. You know I mean. They weren't there necessarily in in the parks in the south. Bronx but you know one thousand nine hundred. Eighty three played on the radio. Yeah Yes yes. And there's that great moment in the movie where Africa is asked about cookie. Post by one of the members of the Beastie boys and you can see like they're they're they're they're in the moment and they're going to dense area and you know performing for white people introducing them to wrap it away and that couldn't have happened if they if it was just five years earlier five years later. The same is true for the class. You know it's like they arrived at a time when the world was ready to hear rock and try to play reggae. And what that means for the future reggae. There's something also about this specific approach to the world though that jumps out to me. Which is it's not. Just this is what we like. It's this is what we like and I don't care if you don't like it and I don't I actually don't care if you don't get it because when I think about the things that I knew when I first heard the band it was you could fit it inside of a very small box. I just did my cultural reference points. The music that I knew about the the records the comedy everything that they were throwing in. I wouldn't say that I discovered them because they were sampled for three seconds on a on a record on policy boutique but they were a window. You know I had never heard of Sadaharu. Oh until I heard the beastie boys rap about him you know like there's so much in their music the sampling the lyric writing even if it is in their songs are very rarely like high minded. They're not necessarily pursuits of big ideas. But they put big ideas in front of you. Just by dint of what they were interested in and I I liked that kind of take it or leave it quality they bring to it and I feel like that really comes out in the movie too. Don't you think yeah? It's only a couple of people are lucky enough to have other people care about the thing that they care about. You know you can. You can play the game and you can try. Ride the wave of what's popular at any given moment. But it's so weird because what the beastie boys did especially once they move to La. I think wound up having such an incredibly profound formative effect on all the culture that comes after it but it so it winds up being underrated as as to what a zag that was how crazy it was for those guys to be like. Yeah we'RE GONNA LEAVE NEW YORK. We're GONNA leave behind rapper. We're going to go to capitol from Def Jam. And we're GONNA work with these two producers that basically no one's ever heard of an assemble these like really out there incongruous samples to build together a new sound that we're gonNA use to define us for the next couple of decades. The only thing I wanted to talk about because I think is probably also a reason why you and I like them. Much is that and this comes across very much in the movie is how much they combine the personal and the professional and how much their work was an extension of their friendship. And I I like to think of a lot of my work as an extension of my friendship with you and I really loved the amount that they would re reference the Beastie boys were essentially about getting together talking shit getting some takeout talking some more shit skating and then making music and that's great. That's the project. The project was their friendship together and the music was the result yet. It was not strategy. You know like when you talk to them. They're kind of blissfully unaware of how it worked out the way that it did. And I don't think it's false modesty. They're just like we literally. Were just doing what we thought was cool and fun and we were not mark testing our approach to the world. I mean a lot of this is obviously happening at the beginning of a lot of cultural changes so there was nothing really measure it against them in the first place but even beyond that even as they got more and more success and they started moving into the nineties and even the two thousands. You get the impression that they were such a self contained and self involved in a good way kind of unit that I always. I just really looked up to that. I really looked up to the idea of saying like this may not be fashionable or it may seem a little bit left of center or even might be deemed like somewhat inappropriate at times but they were they were trying to find ways to do it in ways that were meaningful and true to them. I think is I don't know it's very a very very intoxicating concept to me. Remains that even to this day. I think my favorite a lot of my favorite people who make shit are ones who are very very competitive but very very skeptical of fame and you know the BBC boys. I think we're making their best music at a time. When a lot of mainstream artists were still really uneasy about their relationship to corporations and about their relationship to advertising and about their relationship to politics and a lot of those other things and especially on easy about their relationship to celebrity and fame yet. They were super competitive. They wanted to make really important records when they made videos. They wanted their videos to be the best when they performed at Lollapalooza or if they went on the MTV video music awards they were like we wanted people to be like the Beastie Boys House that Shit and that was like it was like that kind of ethic of like really bad Ass New Yorker with like somewhat indie rocker aversion to any kind of like responsibility that I really responded to me too. We're GONNA talk about our top five favorite songs before we get into that. I think we should talk about the video and we should talk about the album's very surely so you mentioned you know. When they videos they wanted to make the best videos. Their videos were always very handmade. They're always very clever. Seemed like similarly there are following their own path into discrete way I think of them really as a very very important. Mtv Band. I don't. I don't not sure if they would have worked as a band at large without the visual almost like comic aspect of their persona and that includes Fifi right to party. It also includes so what you want and then of course sabotage. And the way that they kind of marked. Forgive this phrase but like hipster cinema over time in the way that they may movies and collaborating with Spike Jones. And I mean what do you think about them as as visual artists before this movie? It's so weird. Because it's like everybody's buddy had the like had that high eight camera who was like. Let's make movie on the weekend. You imagine if your body with Spike Jones. That's so annoying. It's one thing to just be like. Yeah it's cool like jumping the shopping cart and we'll do a show with it. It's really frustrating to be like man. My wonder if my if my friend had been Spike Jones. What I be sitting here with you but you know like I think two times in my life. I've seen a beastie boys video. That's cool thing I've ever seen so so what you want. And sabotage and sabotage. I don't even know if I don't know. If there's a proper way to conceptualize like how important the sabotage video was because it was it hit on the deepest possible comedy level and also was like that is actually super dope. I wish me and my friends could go play seventies cop. Tv show dress up. Yeah I completely agree. I think it's like the purest distillation of irony that I've ever seen but also totally sincere like I don't know I. I don't know how something like that can come up with a name like vehicle. Ferry you've seen fucking a hundred seventies crime movies. Yes one hundred percent What about albums because I feel like a lot of people? You're just a few years older than I am. And then I think there are people who are probably a few years older than you similar obsession with the group. I don't know how many people younger than me have quite the same emotional commitment to them. I'd actually be curious to know. Generational how they tracked. But I do think people tend to chart their life by when they discovered beastie boys if fans of the group what is the. What is the album where you were like? Oh this is the thing have to be close to well. I mean it's hard. You can't overstate the importance of license to ill in like my childhood Became my generation first favorite album. I think for a lot of people and also for a young pubescent prepubescent boys like essentially the dictionary for better for worse. My my favorite records by them were very much Check your head. No communication though. 'cause I I look at them as a as a piece almost the LA records. I know they made Paul's Batik there too. But I think that those two records are their artistic peak and they're so much interesting music be made in there and also featured. They're like most absolutely like rod pure songwriting like their best songs. Yeah I have a similar experience on favorite albums. I'm giving my age. I think I was aware of FIFA writes a party. At a very young age because it was so endemic inescapable even at five or six or seven years old. But I think the so what you want video. If you're I was probably nine came out was transported was yet this was before that yeah no Like totally captured my attention as a kid. It probably is one of the significant things that got me hooked on. Mtv in the first place I would. I would wait hours watching one hundred and twenty minutes waiting for them to play that video and all that stuff predates what we view as like alternative culture it predates Cameron Crowe making singles and cry and grunge and rap rock and they're like so ahead of the curve on all of that you know for lack of a better term like white culture white alternative culture. It's so funny to think about how they and they always kind of operated in their own orbit their own stratosphere and a lot of ways they were uncategorized people in many ways but still I think they were the introduction rap along with the chronic which is also celebrating kind of anniversary this week. Because it's been at the streaming platforms right. It was two things handed. Hand in ninety-one ninety-two. I broke a lot of people's minds. But I'm with you ill. Communication I think is like a perfect perfect thing just like perfect object. That will be with me until I die. And that goes for the visuals. Too and the story that they're telling the way that you can see him evolving as people the way you've gotten close to them and that's talked about a little bit in the film The other thing that goes pretty much unremarked upon the movie that I wanted to hit on quickly as like they Yada. Yada the fact. That being a Beastie Boys Fan from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety nine was like being a fan of MC MCI there was like a label of other artists. You could get excited about. There was a magazine that you could buy and read which was a really cool magazine that had great writing. Great mazing magazine. Yeah Grand Royal and there was a clothing line. There was there was this whole world and this was at a time when rap groups. Tang like you mentioned before also did the sort of thing. They kind of spun up the business of their art into Prophet. But would beastie boys. It always felt a little bit less accessible a little more undiscovered a little bit more like clubhouse kind of approach the stuff I always just loved that specific aspect of what they were doing. Yeah that comes across really well in the movie where they talk about. Jesus do us. Which is the place. They built an atwater village in East. La Norton in the East side of Los Angeles East La And they talk about Christianize. Soy and Jason Lee coming over and skating there half pipe guys playing basketball. I think there's a track on a bonus out track on one of the album's where it's just like the sound of people playing basketball in their studio it's like the Water Village Basketball Association or something is named the song song and it's great. I mean you just use really feel like friends are hanging out and you're right used to just be like you would find out about skateboarders you'd find out about other musicians you would find out about how like you'd find out about shopping at thrift stores like that was like. I remember when I rock started wearing lake way too small t shirts with ironic lake. You know Mount Vernon Girls Lacrosse logos or whatever and that was like health. Dudes dressed for like the rest of the nineties. It was just kind of it was kind of wild. He would just be in one video and that was it. That was a rap. And like even if you didn't really make the direct connection that like those were the sort of touchstones. The big banks for a lot of a lot of different things like how people dressed how people talk how people move to help. What kind of music? They listen to what they pretended to listen to your Mike. Details this story. In beastie boys book which is the predecessor of the movie which a lot of the movie draws stories from the book. I haven't read the book highly. Recommend it it's a six hundred page. Tome full of anecdotes deep dives analyses of the things that they've done people who their friends with right about the band. There's tons of photos. There's mixed tape playlists inside the book. There's so much cool stuff. But Mike details a story about loving wearing car heart one piece a clothing items in the mid nineties and just feeling like I can't we just make these and then they just start making them and that's the birth of X. Large their their clothing line and like they just they were just spin stuff up like out of nothing. I. It's it's so amazing to think about how easy it seemed to come to them. There are photos of like Yok wearing champion sweat shirts in like ninety. Nine dudes champion sweatshirts. Now it's I know. Yeah I don't know whether or not that he got that from someone else but yeah just like the the level of influence that they had over over. That kind of extra musical stuff was just a whistle wild. Yeah the the movie is something interesting for us to talk about briefly. Because I think that it's been received very warmly but also with a little bit of skepticism. Because it's it's Kinda bulletproof because yes it's so sincere almost disarmingly so and even the the all the humor is self effacing. And it's a it's hard to I wanted more from this beastie boys documentary when obviously like a heartfelt gesture on these two guys as part. Yeah exactly and part of the complication is Beastie. Boys have gone to great pains over the years to kind of self analyze mistakes that they've made. There's obviously a lot of there was concern about kind of sexism and insensitivity especially on licensed to ill. The band members are really progressive. And you know address is married to Kathleen Hanna and Yell Quiz a hugely involved in the free Tibet Movement. I mean these are guys who are like very politically conscious by the time you get to the late nineties but also looking back on what they once perceived to be a kind of mocking of a certain prototype that then they like kind of morphed into and they talk about this in the book and they talk about it in the movie. But I think you're right. Chris like the movie itself is so direct and straightforward and obviously such a such an Ode to their pal. They lost that I even. If it isn't exactly the ten hour mega dock that I wanted from beastie boys and I still would be loved to have I I was just personally really gratified to have two hours of them talking about their lives and what they made you know. I think that's that's probably more rare than we're willing to give it credit for so I appreciate it if you had to be greedy and you had to say. I want a little bit more of X. What is the one thing that you wanted to hear more about? You know I so we should say that the it's no spoilers. Say that the sort of the format that uses Adam. Mike Yaw Horowitz. And dime doing this sort of kind of Borscht belt routine by guess day Jr so there are in front of a live audience. They're reading from a teleprompter and there are essentially walking people through archival footage. Of the Beastie Boys that tells the story of the Bandon it spends a tremendous amount of time on their early early New York days And it spends a lot of time Not Defying but but just really throwing a lot of credit and praise on. Yuck personally I think it would just been cool to get a couple of different settings for their reflections like maybe have some one on one talking heads with Iraq and Mike also maybe to brings different voices. I would have been curious to see. What say there's this really cool part right before It's like what winds up being their last Gig at Bonnaroo and there in Tennessee. Rick filming a music video with Nas and Roman Coppola is directing it and I kind of like I have nowhere to go. So if Dawson Roman Coppola wanted to weigh in here like I would have been fine with that But I I. You can't be greedy situation this. Yeah I thought of the same thing I thought it. Wouldn't it be nice to hear from Matt Dike and the Dust Brothers John Nice to hear from Spike himself? Not just as this sort of antic voice of God meant mismanaging the stage production. That happens in the film but also to hear like honestly what he thought about the group and how they connected and how they became friends. I think it would be nice to have all of that stuff last. We'll have to settle for this very cool thing. They've always been so good about making neat standalone objects for their fans like they had the one hundredth edition of the criterion collection was a collection of all of their videos. I've gotta you gotTa right behind me on my shelf right now. They have book they have this movie. A you know I was reading in an interview with our with our old colleague. Amos Barshop G. Q. How they have this huge raft of unreleased material and they're kind of downplaying it and saying a lot of it is bad but you just know like if even if you just go listening to the peas in the largely unheard stuff that they put out over the years there were stuff is at at worst interesting. Yeah they actually are one of the groups where you're like. I would listen to you guys fuck around like there's plenty of times where you're just like. I don't need to hear Eric Clapton tuning on this seventieth reissue Derek Domino's but I actually like be. Especially because the beastie boys as musicians really didn't come into their own until the middle of their careers. It's fascinating to hear them. Hit that point as as artists. So they're not fucking around our top five's there. This is some of the most focused shit ever. This is some of our favorite music ever. We'll try to do this in a concise way which I did not oversell emotions on these shows but I asked you to give me five songs. I'll give you five songs. Let's start with your number five boys song which is an instrumental cut and is basically my hat my cap tip to their musical ability and their desire sometime in the early nineties to try and turn themselves into the meters. It's amazing boys are actually pretty good background music. If you want check out the in sound from way out which is their collection of instrumental tracks from. I think it's I don't know if it goes back to Paul's Boutique. But it's definitely the check your head L. Communication stuff on there and then working with money mark and Mario Colorado. It's just it's just really deep. Funky Shit I pick a so what you want which will not be surprising entry. A lot of my my choices are down the middle and I feel totally comfortable back has sent to. You also have so what you want on your your list. I think between the video and the introduction to it and also the. There's a great story in the book that I think Adam tells about the anr who is working on. Check your head for capital at the time who seemed like a real asshole and a blowhard and who when they visited the offices to ask about the first single was insistent upon Jimmy James. And they were like. That's cool Jimmy. James is one of our favorite songs on the record but it has no hook. No chorus makes no sense making that the first single. What about what you want? And he has like Edano so what you want with numbers that again and then they have to take cassette. Tape may have to rewind and fast forward to wear which one is on the record and they press play and as soon as it starts. He's like weed. So what is this called again? So what you want. And he's like this is the one this is it guys and it dawns on them. He's not listening to the tape that he doesn't know anything. You suggested. Jimmy James Because Jimmy James is the first song on the album but so what you want is like it's infectious and it's one of those like it's a talisman. I think for a lot of people my age like. If you were into that you could be friends with the person you know for sure. And then in that video like you said that video is just like there was black and white and then it was color with that video game out in terms of just like the way in which they captured what it was like to physically interact with a song. What's number four Chris? Number Four for me is Chad Rack. Which is this is on. Paul's Boutique and I wanted to shout this out because I felt like this was a good example of up in their game lyrically. So it's basically for me. This is lyrically the version of of all the sampling. They do they make all these like little references that if you wanted to get nerdy about it and really break down what they were talking about. You'd see that they were referencing. Like the book of Daniel. The Bible book the Band Easy and of Brooklyn Street Fair in the same song. And if you start to like really get into the lies that they're doing you start to just put together this whole universe of constellation of references. I also picked a Paul's Boutique Song for number four. Pick shake your basically because I think that there should be a party record on this list. Still One of the Great Party records to me but it does do a lot of what you're talking about here too. Which is a collides? So many of their interests and it shows a lot of depth lyrically. But also you know the Abbott and Costello Three Stooges Dean and Martin finishing each other's sentences style of emceeing which is obviously it was very important and well-known like Kramer Flash Furious. Five did that a lot of other groups in the early eighties did that. But it started to fade out as an approach for rap groups and the late eighties. Apm De Villa sold. Maybe a little bit we do it but for the most part they kind of kept that traditional live and it's a signature of all their songs. Take they take out a more. Shakira version of jumping from lear- lear- lear- voice voice voice figuring out am I like an address. Guy And MCA guy. Am I on Mike? Guy? Who's references? Do I like the most? What are the most interesting? Did you ever figure it out? Well I mean I think. There's like an unspoken acknowledgment. That ad rock is the coolest. Mca is the wisest. And Mike. D is the funniest quote unquote funniest. And like I don't know I don't even know if that's accurate and it probably changes every time you listen to a new song but I I kind of subscribed to that. What do you what about you? I think it's Ad Rock for me. I has the most memorable lines and also I just always just got like such a huge kick out of his personality and was never really lost. That punk Rock Shit like at rock was definitely do flipped off the vm. As after playing sabotage. That's one of the best moments of a movie is getting a chance to see that. Vm As performance again. It's so great. Yes well just like a little miss create asshole fading this very stupid award and I just I think also. It's just like his second life. As Noah Baumbach character actor in middle-aged just like New York Dude is or or just middle aged guy. Cool Dad is so funny to me. Yeah I mean I don't WanNa be racial. Yeah there's a couple of white guys approaching middle age telling the world that they think add rocks the coolest guy of all time not exactly a shocking turn of events but yeah he's a role model for a certain kind of dude and I liked him as an emcee because you kind of cut through the noise to he has that super adenoid voice. Yeah and just like in the corner like that. It's like I always remember his his bars. I'm so glad you rhyming on this episode you picked so what you want it number three. Yeah I chose hold it now. Hit it out. Let Me Licensing Record. You listen to license still very much. Only half of it. I only like the real rap rap shit don't like I can't listen to five year right or no sleep till Brooklyn by Paul Revere. Slow all the now hit. It does are Roman and stealing and like those are among my still my favorite songs I don't listen to girls. I don't thirty-seven-year-old there's definitely a time in my life where I feel like the only thing that my friends cared about. Where the memorizing lyrics Paul Revere which they did and which I did and and just watching Eddie Murphy concerts like that was like the the boy brain for like ten years. There's something there about even in the maturity scale to their operating in the same with the same energy. It's like do you. WanNa listen to Beastie boys or watch raw and hold it now. Hit like the segment of the movie where they explain how it came about is simultaneously the dumbest thing I've ever seen. They're like you know on that Leroy Castro Song where they say. Hey Leroy like just like that. Knowing that they just wanted to grab a small piece of something he loved and then a small piece of something they love and small piece of so many loved and put it together in a record is so obvious. Yeah and yet I never really thought about it when I listen to it. Like that was what they were thinking. I thought that they were trying to construct. Some Mozart style. Masterpiece of sonic integration. They were just like. Here's a cool sound. I heard once I'd like it to be in my song and I almost know too much about sampling now in the difficulties of sampling. And how you could never make license L. You could never make pulse boutique in twenty twenty because of all how expensive it would be impossible to gain the rights and there was a wild west aspect to it but the actual creation of it is still. What's so cool to me and still there is there. Is this whole era. Where when it was still flying a little bit under the radar in terms of of business. The challenge was to do it more and more artfully and guys really took that as okay. You'RE GONNA throw the gauntlet down and flip that sample this way. And you're going to do it this way and now. I think it's kind of more of a like Connie can afford to buy the Aretha Franklin tapes you know and that's how and it's kind has fucking incredible stuff with samples but when you listen to like large professor or q tip or havoc. Do something with record. It's different. It just felt different back then. I completely agree with you. let's go to number two. What's your number two Chris it's sabotage so I mean I don't. I don't even know what to say about this song other than the fact that it's definitely one of those songs that the second you hear the second year of the opening seconds of it you're like I'm in the make this part of my life put this on my tombstone. Plays at my wedding. It is. It immediately becomes an anthem for multiple generations of people who are fans in this fan. And I think that it's one of those perfect combinations of we talked about this already but the marriage between the song which is like like as as ad rock talks about like he's like I just basically went into a studio booth and vocal booth and talk shit at the engineer and I didn't know it was going to become like our set closing number. But then when they made the video it gave it like this whole new layer of hilarity and depth and spice and interest. I I I've never been able to quite figure out. Like what how they figure they decided to put seventies cop satire on top of this like essentially thrash punk song and then it just became a huge hit. Did you feel like we've reached the moment? Now that my dad reached when I was twelve and he was like Clapton as God. And here's why I need to understand that right and now I'm like listen. Children gather around while I tell you about sabotage and how sabotage changed at all like. I wonder if this music aside from the like. Let's say you're young Aspirin Skater and you've got like a fuck you attitude and you're a slight cut school all the time you could. Definitely get into beastie boys. There's something attitudinally their into. But if you're just like a sweet kid that's on tick tock all the time. Just the sound of beastie. Boys is the sound of sabotage. Make any sense to you. I think if you're if you're twelve year old boy it probably does. I think that there's gotta be something destructively. Rebellious people still. You know. I think times have changed in I. I I don't know whether or not that sound really resonates with people as much anymore. The loud guitar the attitude that they had. It doesn't seem it. I I think people express themselves in a lot different ways now but I. I don't know I'd be really curious to find out whether or not thirteen year olds thinks sabotage is great or not. I mean like big. Bill always brings up Ben. Simmons is like the perfect focus group. I can't imagine Ben Simmons wouldn't love sabotage though it's a great point. Well let's bring on Ben Simmons. Ben What do you think Ben's not here? My number two pick is also another communication. Sure shot which I think is basically column column on your communication Shir Shot. Is that song in the Corner Song. Some of the best rhyming if they've ever done it's got this. Kind of mesmerizing flute loop has the melodic counterpoint of the song and it's the song that was played at every basketball practice. I attended between nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety six. It was on every warm update for all of the suburban kids of Long Island. And I don't even know why that was I. It was it was just aspirational. It was just like if I can hear this song. I'm cool and if I'm cool I can get a basketball. Yeah and that's like a magical power and I that's another song to you. Kristie play on my funeral. Okay you got it. I'm going to do a solo version. Like Will Ferrell. We gotTA deal. I love what you picked for number one Chris. Would you pick for number one album openers? What a fucking Ricky Henderson right out of the leadoff spot and every album has a banger. Even I think Paul's Boutique is supposedly tickets to all the girls so they go rhyming stealing allies. Listen still all the girls on Paul's Boutique and then run of Jimmy. James Short Shot Zika. Super Discovery came through. Hello Nasty now. There's two schools of thought one. Is you open your album with something kind of epic and sweeping to introduce the concept that would be like on say like Jay z dislike the Rock Dynasty intro. Track on familiar or something like that or you put your number one single first and then go from there they can do either one they can do either one but like when you listen to these these first tracks like if you're like I'm gonNA listen. It'll be switched record. Never ever ever fucking put it on shuffle. If you can take anything from this podcast. They really meticulously. Assemble these albums and those first songs are always like the absolute craig shot to the jugular. I love that and I feel bad because we haven't talked about. Hello Nasty at all. The you know is considered the last great album had a couple of hours after that and it was probably like their apex in terms of like everybody agreed that they were brilliant musicians the most fun musicians we had and I think that there was that run that tour. I remember it was just like it was. It was kind of like you had to go see you had to go. See The beastie. Boys totally that was their their sort of apex may not commercially because licensed ill sold so well but in terms of being universally beloved and almost like easing into elder statesman of the thing they were like adult adult Ferris Buehler's it was just like every single group of people liked them. Yeah and that record is really really good. It's like way better than any rapper. Rap groups fifth or sixth album has any right to be It gets a little bit of short shrift in the film. They obviously have a lot of affection for it. But by the time you get our you know the hundredth minute of the movie. They don't have a ton of time to spend on it but a lot of big hits it had a lot of successful videos and it was on. Mtv All the time they're performing to be me and they had that huge tour and super disco break and also also jam. Also Jim. I might have heard few times warming up for the lab linemen right and my number one pick is called looking down the barrel of a Gun. Sean fantasy classic. This is in the conversation my favorites on time. There's an egg headed reason that I like it. Which is basically the introduction of what would become their sound which is super sample heavy super intense but also live instrumentation. You know there's I think it's Ad Rock was playing guitar on this record and it also features you know this very very heavy mountain sample couple of other Incredible Bongo band sample the most pulse of song. You'll ever hear your life. If you ever need to soundtrack your next fistfight put on looking down the barrel of a gun. We'll work perfectly or if you ever need to drive from New York to California cannonball. Run track totally. This is what I'm doing the Vegas drive. The just put us on a loop one hundred ten. That's on the fifteen. That's how I live is really just one of my favorite things ever and it's like haunting kind of scary. It's an unusually like it's not a happy song. As beastie boys songs go but it's it's like an amazing creation love to listen to it Chris. Any any closing thoughts on Beastie. Boys can I ask you a kind of a Weird Hypothetical of course had MCA. Not Unfortunately left. Let leftovers if he had not passed away deep. Do you think that they could have continued to make relevant records? Like how do you think like seeing those guys up on stage at their age? Could you imagine a beastie boys at middle aged record? I I think that they would have. I what how relevant it would have been what it would evolved into. It had been interesting because they kind of got to their dad phase. A little early you know. The I became. They became a jazz samba band when they were in their early Thirties mid thirties. I mean they. They really did move through the life cycle of musical creativity very quickly and so. I don't know I don't. They struck me as a kind of guys who would have become like composers. You know they would have worked on films together. Obviously Ouk was Owned a mini studio was film lover and a director himself but I think they probably would have just continued to do the elder statesman role of. We're going to organize a concert benefit. Yay I would have been I. I don't actually know how much of this Mike and Adam due to this day but it would have been interesting to see them shepherd younger artists or work more. I didn't get a chance to ask them about what they think of rap right now but I m always interested in that and they tend to like blow off questions like that. They're like oh. We're like in our fifties. It doesn't matter what we do actually want to know what they think. What what did they think of juice world? You know what I mean like. What did they think of something like that? Like they get into it to their kids. Listen to it. How did they find themselves? But as far as the records that they were making I I found the last two records like very sweet more sincere than they had ever been right to the facts on. What was the other one? It was to the five boroughs in hot sauce committee part two which like interrupted in their production. Because y'all got sick And was released You know during a very complicated time for the band and there's some cool stuff on those records like there's a santegoeds song. There's at Nassir that you talked about. But it's it's definitely it's period stuff. It's all like a lot of great artistry period stuff which is like you can hear them. It's them doing their things still but something has has moved on Yeah I think it would have been a great every three to four years a coach Alabama and Tom Com come through. Play the hits I and I would have been really curious because I guess the reason why was even asking about our thinking about. It was in the last couple of weeks. We've seen these different. Dj Battles on instagram and like some of the older faces from our our youth like premier. And and you know Teddy Riley and people like participating these things and it reminded me that like rap but you know pop music. In general of a wrap in particular can sometimes be cruel to its elders They're they kind of like outlived their usefulness in some ways in her kind of shunted off and it's like. Yeah you can call them. You can play your like five songs may become as like a guest appearance but there's not a lot of room to keep making interesting rap music into your fifty s or whatever As I would have been curious to see them. See them try. One of the great things about them is that they're not just wrap you know that they are punk and funk and jazz and Calypso and sample stacked you know paraphernalia like they really were everything to me And I think their music is kind of forever. -able you know it's like there's it doesn't ha-. I dated maybe exception of licensed to ill which feels very much like an early eighties rap record all of their records. I think you could drop into the atmosphere right now and be like. Isn't this crazy? How someone made this. Yeah mean like that. That was they they made. They took some of those timeless music ever made shots. A Black Oak Arkansas and they may timeless music out of it and it still sounds good to me today as it did when I was thirteen. Which either means I'm oldest shit or they made perfect songs. I think both things can be true. Chris thank you for doing this with me. I appreciate it. Let's go to my chat now with Michael Mikediamond and Adam. 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I was watching episode two. I'm really enjoying it. I mean I can't separate the fact that like the the time span of that documentary. It's like you know we're we're in New York City. We're in New York. Were putting out record after record were on tour. Were playing a lot of these you. At that time. They played in a lot of these buildings where the Bulls replaying. We're going to Madison Square Garden and Watching Michael Jordan crush the knicks. Give me a fucking Hubert Davis documentary. Trent Tucker or halt on Lingo. I want to see him fucking Michael Jordan Young. You really are becoming wait. No I'M GONNA stop. Why are you so bitter right now about this short? Listen goat is a goat. Why do you have to be mad about it? Well documentary you guys. You guys did license. We didn't we didn't ask about the best Christian basketball player at the. Yeah that's right. I shouldn't say that the Christians Will Alan Houston. I'll use. It probably still gets paid like two million dollars a year by the Knicks. I bet just because I was thinking a lot about it for the same reasons you guys though watching the documentary and then here in the Maestro in a later episode of the series I was like this is wild. How much closely mirrors that time you guys were so active and getting so fame. I say I say yes and my point before Adams starting hating on Michael Jordan for no good reason the man is clearly one of our most talented athletes. I will never forget. Being York's house and we're watching the Knicks Game Scottie. Pippen got a rebound. And he didn't just get a rebound he got the rebound and the tapped. The backboard came down Outlet PEOPLE PLAY WITH OUR NEW YORK. Knicks it's not funny they don't play against and they just play with them and that is true. You're right on that 'cause you've got something to prove you're in like the world's most famous arena your Madison Square Garden. You could just eat the knicks or you can do Michael Jordan and dropped fifty five on him or Scottie Pippen and whatever and the only the only weapon we have the only person who stood up for us during this whole little John starks there. You'RE GONNA say Jeff Eddie Gundy when he was holding onto Pat Ewings leg Miami way. Which was that my win? That fight happened. That was along. Miami yeah good. I mean that's definitely Van. Gundy highlight but anyway so yes. There's we had this like overlapping pal. We end but I I what. I'm liking about watching the last dances. You just realize nothing's that simple. It's like it's very complex. The Bulls not you know the. The starting five of the Bulls are these very complex very different personalities from very different backgrounds. And then you have Phil Jackson and then you have the GM and you have the owner and the fact that even could work as long as well as it did as long as it is so miraculous and to me I guess I look at it like a lot of similarity to life in that because ultimately with bands. It's it is really fragile thing you know where where you've gotta get along but even if you're not getting along with some friction between us also good because sometimes that feeds as long as you're current on your vital in terms of doing this thing together but he also really do have to have each other's backs end of the day for people to really push it because otherwise you're not going to feel comfortable really pushing yourself whether you're in a band or you're on a team unless you really feel secure like everybody else got. I was as I was watching the last dance I was. I was watching. Beastie boys story I was thinking about. Just what how powerful nostalgia is and what it's like to look back on your life like are you guys comfortable with being a part of people's nostalgic experience at this point after doing the book and doing the film like the. Look back. How do you feel about in engaging with that as part of your as part of your life is fantastic? You know that we've made music that people enjoyed and meant something to them and keep with them and they pass it de down to friends or whatever you know. It's fantastic. Well I I would say to put it in rear terms like I think. I'm grateful because we're not. Our fans is different. Like people really have this relationship with our music which is a little weird. It means that they have a relationship with us but they really they have this ongoing relationship with music. And it's more about music in the soundtrack for their lives in different time. So it's not like you know I don't think it's like just a straight up like nostalgia in the past thing like say footloose no disrespect Kevin Bacon. Very Nice Guy. Other people love the film. Footloose Adam you're probably a fan right actually. Seen the whole movie I remember Crispin Break Dancing on the street but I don't really remember I guess what I'm trying to say it's like the Lewis is a moment in time and we have like we. We have this time. This like shared arc of time and shared like span of history somehow with our fans so that I don't know kind of kind of grateful for the fact that we totally we were like totally eighties and totally ninety S. Well Yeah No. I agree with that but then also back. I think that was one of the things that good about being on the stage in town haller here in Los Angeles at King's theatre Roklin We get to do this. Over all these decades and now cheerier then we and now we get to stand on stage and talk about it all at drive to try to make sense of it on trying to figure it out. Mike. Can you tell you kid walking around naked behind you? This is the hapless Willie one day. He's a he's an athlete and assured on you think. Hey Mike talking about Davidson's his kids you think their locker room guys glue guys. Anything Schuyler. Scholar is actually. This is literally this way when I coached when I coached him in Rec League basketball. And even a like. He's a kid that like he's just he can't take it if you're not as good as serious him. He has no tolerance for you so you either have to step up his G. MET. You have to step into his world omega real quick on the Ringer sports network. Mike sent me a video of his kid showed me video years ago when he was like eight playing a little basketball team thing and camera was filming it and it's licensed told me. He looks at his mom in the crowd. Someone passes him the ball. He hits deep shot for like an eight-year-old turns around. Does one of these suicide bomb court. It was amazing Yeah well there's also the time that as soon as Davis made it on a UTM heat of course is as the guard start bringing the ball up court Three times and the coach media called time out. It's like you know. Just no no hot dog and son do they do does he get that from you to see get that performance of instinct from from knowing what his dad does no. I don't think maybe listen. You there is something to the DNA and influence or whatever and certainly in my kids Ashley. It's interesting they are really comfortable making music like they love working on on songs all the time just finding finding music and making music so but that's also that's the world that they've grown up so it kind of makes sense right back to them as normal. Did you guys like movies about bands going through the stages of their career before you guys embarked on this. Was that something you actually into? This is a great question first off. I have to two categories for this since we're honoring one dramatized movies that involve like music especially like a sub sub culture of music almost universally almost without exception suck. Yeah there's there are the exceptions. There's the harder they come It's going to be a very short list vinyl tab spinal tap incredible So there is a few but it in terms of dramatized music stories especially like around sub genres. Like yeah if you WANNA example the not so good one film that we are in fresh groove really. It's okay can you want you trust groove right now? I've I've seen it one I haven't seen I haven't saw spot for it but I know what you're saying. He's never been a great movie about like punk in the creation of punk. Yeah I think it's hard to do. Injuries great documentaries like there's there's the sex pistols Fury. Yeah you know really great dock and I felt really Really satisfied about something that I loved. It felt like I knew about and I felt it was very genuine or I never saw that instead of throwing. Oh Gosh that's a really good some twenty four hour party people it really interesting film and really it's funny. That's that's film like spike in US like we. Actually that was on your homework. Lists down to watch. You'd never have you ever watched it not great with homework. Not so much but select is actually. It's worth in this quarantine time due to catch up on that homework and no seriously. It's it really. That is I put in the category of we. It's finally we. That was something we put in our pile of something. We aspire to this who I kicked the idea of doing a movie It it came in the first week. We are book and then we had to go out and promote the book and so we came up with along with this idea of doing these shows to promote them to promote the book And so we tried to you know. The book is whatever five hundred something pages and we tried to like create this to our more concise arc out of that and started performing As we did it we realize that there was a lot. There was hard for us. It was not necessarily comfortable. We actually liked liked doing while. You're doing it and mostly just I guess just in the theater itself good like I felt like Louis audience they collected with it and it and it it was something something real that was happening there and and it's like more like we were all looked at each other like. Wow we should have been filming this should we? We didn't feel it so are bad. And then we then we got together that was like say at the end of Twenty Eighteen. And then we got together the beginning of Twenty nineteen and just started Started LE- writing and writing and writing and rewriting towards the goal of doing it going back on stage and then and then honestly it wasn't it. We thought even when we after we less got off stage like that final night at I think spike to share it. Where was she was on this call? I think we all like kind of like left the theater that night thinking that the film was just GonNa be a document documenting that what what was happening on stage what that was and then once spike in Jeff Cannon and Zoe our editors spe got into the editing room. I think they realized they had to go exponential with it and kind of like I I use the analogy of going from from two dimension three dimension because they by integrating sort of so much archival material it really just like why not bring people into this thing. They're not people aren't in the theater anymore so they don't. It's not like there. Isn't this us this by of US telling the story? So we have it's like go exponential that way 'cause we can. What was it like for you guys to perform your lives and not just once but like a few times in that live setting that weird or different from doing a show. No like if you think about it. I don't know who are I. Don't know you but you know most of us tell the same stories over and over and over right you. Just that time that time this thing happened to you then I was with this so that part was kind of easy in a way right thinking about it being like. Oh these are the stories that we should tell because this is people might want to know about this in the history of our band right but then actually writing it down and like reading a script out loud of the story that you've probably told fifty different times was weird. It was weird. But the thing about telling you talking about your life for the most part is is What we all do or a lot of us do or maybe I just do that. And I'm ansel everybody's like Oh my God stop doing that. I've heard that stupid fucking bring story already Mike. Why in silent right now because I find it at. I farted wondering if you guys furred. Here's my question I that's actually the truth. I don't mind telling the truth. Here's my question lately might are you a more Loud fart or like silent but deadly for 'cause you used to be allowed for ses important usually allowed. I felt I segue into sort of silent deadly Ninagawa point where there's something I was going to do. Some stuff and I would really crop duster group up though. Not that's not cool so good and not really. Some things are a lot more. Dialed up my digestion. Honestly in you know the fighting straight up a lot more underwear that you'd have to actually ask the topless a fifteen year old sky diving. He'll he'll away in very candidly on that. Cover the base behind you. What is he doing guitar? Okay look like will base Qatar. He's been he's been teaching himself a song. It's part of his quarantine routine impressed with. He teaches himself. A learns a New Song Everyday Guitar. You mean long night so long. Not yes kind of maize that the the following questions didn't make it into the show or the booker jams again again. If it were if either just adamant I and spike were involved. It probably would've all right. Here's a question number one fruit go. Whoa that's hard. That depends on your mood and also this big debate around my house. The fact that Avocado fruit like I love avocados question. Why is it technically Avocados to. I don't consider it a fruit because of savory nature technically a fruit pit really. I'm asking Siri a series avocado fruit. Mike Mike likes the banana he avocado is a climbed back teric. Three which refers intrigue ripens off the tree. I don't I don't I don't think you've answered. The question is avocado. He's just dodging the question. Yeah I'll neighbors tell me what's your favorite say. Avocado is my favorite food. I'm GONNA say Really tricky really. Good Blueberry. I was Gonna say that really blueberries. I'm not talking about like a blueberry from another continent. I'm talking about like blueberry near. You has ripened locally. Good like when you're when you're on a local blake when you're on the East Coast or even your company with certain statements really in the season and ripen really actually tastes like Blueberry I. I don't know if there's anything better than the fruit World Adam. You have to tell us. What your favorite. I don't eat fruit for that. Vaudeville show. That is a great great routine Dangelo orange at newly now. You're just stunting everybody. Ten Adam you mean like ten Jello said was jealous instead of the Gray Nash. Accent guys what else. What else did did spike bring to the movie for You Linear LINEAR thinking linear thoughts. Adamant I would've been I'm not good at I don't Kare out myself. I'm a bit all over the place. So Spike kind of rain rained certainly rained me in but we have been all over the we'd have been all over the map and kind of telling it would have stuck to his timeline line but we would have been telling stories all over the place and he kinda keep kind of like looking us in the face and saying like all right. What does that mean? Where's this going like? What are you trying to say? What were you feeling the time? So he he he sort of he dragged out of us one of the things that I really like is the origin story of hold. It now hit it where you guys are literally saying. I like this and I like this. I put it together and this is how he made stuff that we like and made something new. That's something that you could write down in the book but then when you see you guys on stage doing that and hearing all the sounds and hearing the samples gives it just like a totally new energy. When you're writing the book where you like Shit I wish there could be like a an audio component or visual component. That blended all this shit together or is it just in the process of making this. You found that you're doing those things. We had a lot of ideas for the book. That had things popping out of the book that we're audio visual in all kinds of stuff like that but You know cost wise. Those things didn't happen and then we were going to do a version of the book that had like tons of links and all of this stuff like a real Internet version of the book and then just we just got lazy to death. Actually basically we were excited about that. Idea I think it turns out the note watery. Read a book. They WANNA read a book. They don't you guys might be really interesting to you but really blow by blow. They want like I was looking at the book again last night. Adam you have like one of the mix tapes you had from when you were living in l. a. and just started going through it and just adding those records playlist that I have. I feel like if you had in all Internet version of a book the same with the movie pulls it off. I feel like that would have worked and I agree with you. I just We'LL WWW or go to it. Info AT RANDOM HOUSE DOT COM and please email. Yeah but anyway but I honestly I don't think I think the show it was like it was very similar to us in terms of making Making any of our records I think at the book actually but in that and what I say that s with our records we weren't great about planning in advance and it's not like we were. We were never the most prepared fan. I know it sounds shocking. But we were good at is I kind of like talking about influences. And we'd we'd start pretty much every record off with like making each other. Mix tape or Later on playlists over there were just just stuff that we're listening to an inspired by and like with this. What if what if we did something like this combined with this and try and make that work So we are good at having like that starting point and it was the same thing with this show. It was kind of like what if we get. How do we bring these stories happen? Two-dimensional in the book and and have them be next level. Either by US telling it or being in the theater or what were the video were showing or the the music explain or whatever. When I was growing up everything you guys were doing always seemed effortless and like spontaneous to me and the movie shows that it wasn't always that way but like it also seems like a. Kinda was like looking back on all this stuff that it feels like. It was hard when you were twenty one making something as complicated and and meaningful to people or was it just like this is what we like doing. We just we create when you when you do like hard as like a job when you think about what people do for jobs and it was very easy. I mean that's what we that was our job just to go fuck around. It's pretty easy job. Also I think I think I mean. We're not tarring roofs or helping anyone physically. You know what I mean. Yes and certainly we're not. We're not laboring away in the Hot Sun but it was It was a pleasure. Michael go ahead was a not always was pleasure. But I think the especially when we're younger in ascending tried to get across in the book is that because of where we came from both in terms of just being kids in New York like literally being little kids in New York City in the nineteen seventies for things. Were so out of Control that somehow your parents decided to raise you New York City. You have all this freedom that came along with that and so ABC freedom. We got to go seat in you. Had We'd music and culture art happening all around us and we got to go to all these clubs in all these shows. See all that stuff so we always felt like we could just do any any of it. We felt like we could do it. And then you know it's funny. I think actually when I look back at say like when we were making Paul's not In his studio like our endless hours no we never thought it was like too hard we just were just completely consumed like that's that was completely consumed with what we're doing. That was the only thing we are GonNa do is only hit matter. What's which arid you did you guys most like revisiting talking about writing about like what was the time when you had the most fun thinking back on it. We had a lot of fun. I say there was no one time one specific time where I was like. Oh man if I could just go back. I would be there of it than I would like to be there to within. That time was really that other time though right. That was that other time a lot of times with a lot of times. Fun Josh. Well I do agree. I do agree with that because I do agree. I think like oh. We looked at when we first came out to. La was so fun even reversed on tour with run DMC like we're opening run DMC. We're totally accepted into their world. Were were actually now. We become a rapper. Will making rap records RHENIUM CR FAVORITE GROUP? And we'RE OPENING UP. There couldn't have been anything. More exciting in the world. But then I don't know I also it's it's hard that I also think that that whole period of time when we built our own studio in Los Angeles called Jason on the east side of La in a neighborhood called atwater and Liri. It was more than a studio's like our clubhouse we go there every day we just put record on rural. Join our work process. We'd put a- put whatever records on. We had hope in the library and a basketball court and a skateboard ramp. And that just there every day hanging out with each other literally having I just saw my baby boy walk by NYC baby boy by. Let's do it. I'm missing. Was He still topless now? Davis walked by paying attention to where he was going. No I see I see him now. He looks like he's got a pillow in his party can go sleep somewhere. He's going to go hide under your car week. Strange things that happen during routines during quarantine was there. Anything that you guys didn't like going back to and revisiting that you know because obviously there's some very personal very emotional stuff. Obviously everything you guys talk about with. Y'All can and his life and influence and then. Obviously the controversies in the licensed to ill and that you guys have reflected on that a lot and talked about a lot during the book tour and everything but was there anything even if it wasn't controversial per se that you're just like man this period was challenging and we were not happy. We didn't WanNA talk about this. I mean you know it's tough Just revisiting think mistakes that you made right and then to really really think about those things and then to actually write them down and then the actually say out loud and then rehearse sang them a bunch of times and then film yourself saying it was you know it ultimately. It's good to do that. And you gotTa face you know your mistakes only where you're GONNA learn so it was nice to do it sucked in a moment but important for all there's put it. There was a lot of layers of cringe. I said that no but you. 'cause you're like it's true that's what it was a lot of layers. Chris. We write the story that we wrote the book and evade can rewrite it again for the stage play and the performance in that eater and then watch it back projected on the screen so it was Y- multiple multi-layer. I got a kick out of seeing the lost angels clip in the movie and Adams has been neo. Yeah I bet An out of you've been you've done a couple of years. What Mike you're not you're not as much of a movie star as your bandmate. Know where you are you comfortable in that in that role in that universe. Now I'm I'm comfortable seating the role of Thespian to add Do you want to talk about how you how you really feel like her feeling? There's a little bit of jump competitions more job time. I'm jealous 'cause I can't do it at. I'm not you know not you know. You're a born natural jealous one's envy you know you're like the. I don't think you'll be comfortable analogy but a lot of people talk a lot of people talk about you. Being the Michael Jordan acting really says that I want to say I mean no but come on when the Sports I think wars I think of you a little bit. More like Steve. Kerr acting but I'm not mad at that whatever. It is what it is marquee. Say about me Mike Again. I say this again. Well what you said it wrong. Yesterday you have an XS. He did say excellence. No L. L said No. He's like he's like he's an easy out. Like Admiral had handled the migrants talking about playing basketball with us in the nineties at our studio or a documentary might play basketball in this deal like fondly remembers coming the studio and playing basketball with us. He's like member. Of course I. He started talking about his shots. Animals from memory. They're talking about some hook. Shot definitely never happened. I remember I was making a Hook shot. I was like calling Kareem. Like oh I don't know wasn't a Hook Shot. I was I was saying off the backboard Funston but then he made the point. He did say you have handled like like versus wine. Iverson Irish and truthfully though I think Jordan's obviously one of the greatest players of all time Iverson and I think a lot of people say the same thing when my favorite secret players of all time. Probably my favorite incredible yes. That's that's bold stuff from a knicks fan though. Yeah but I don't feel like we hated. There's always this Philly New York thing but I don't I don't know I don't say Charlie manages because Philly wasn't competitive in those years like in like in the U. E. in the glory years. They rose alumni frazier right now. Patrick Ewing but I'm just saying like you know. Indiana Daggers Indiana Indiana because Reggie Miller and because it was just you know we'd only get so deep in the play offs we lose But with Philly in those years we didn't they weren't in that discussion the way the Indiana Chicago even Miami. What's IT's true I wanted to ask you guys a little bit about Yow who is a a obviously a massive movie Fan and a filmmaker and had you know has his own movie production studio What do you think he'd make of Beastie boys story in you know? What do you think he would've brought to it as we've talked about it? I think he was always fat. Always Love Spike Fan Spike. We do but I think he would. It would be like an hour long. We'd boat we've talked about. This would be an hour longer and even crazier and it would probably be like include. It include a several. I think completely like bio kicks that don't even exist or you know there'd be like you know an eight minute animated for a off into somewhere it would never quit. Come back from you could have pushed it even more now. They would've been. We would have been flying. There would have been seals. There would have been you know a lot. There's a lot of it's just so much would have been seven hours to. I didn't think about that. There would have been like some. Cgi animals mainly guessing of us like riding. Dolphins babies typing typewriters. That you know whatever. What is what is hornblower. Say about the late hall. And here's here tonight. Just Oh hornblower here. We have an. He's unfortunately hornblower hits the wind skin and he makes his behavior barrier radic and though he's a creative genius it's very difficult to work with him or even interact with them now here. Here's my pitch. There hasn't been like the baby. Look who's talking too. Movie like franchise autumn. Were you and me. Doing like is like the cold parents you know with the with the talking babies like bring that spring babies or the parents question either way we can be can be the gay the gay couple parents parent one of you as Kid. I should say same. Click produce they crash same-sex com one of US admire one of the kid. What did we both were the parents and the kids see. I thought you were going to say what if we did. Like a throwback forties like newspaper columnist baby. Right his is girl. You gotta you gotTa get the story out the story. That's good all right. The high rate. Here's another important part of spinach. Pete Smith Dwayne. The Rock. Johnson is the neighbor next door as always and he's always telling us. We're like parenting wrongly. He's like what are you guys do doing fine. I'm doing it right. I love the rock. Whenever if he wants to get involved great great I would so much rather co parent with him than you since. We're talking about movies guys. Let's let's rob. Can you just tell me what else you guys have? Been Watching and listening to since you've been in this in these circumstances Using a lot of sweet soul music played earlier. Also I've been going back to a lot of different like West African Music Sky K Frimpong and his Cubano fiestas and he is from Africa at night. So I still don't need similar to explain to me why his backing band are called the Cubano fiestas. I get someone s two. I have friends who will explain that to me. Is You brought up in? I talked about Debbie the last dance I've been watching victory speech. We I have to say with my teens. We've got an seems to work really well in these times with my team my teams we've been binge watching On teen comedies. Like we saw or I should say t- There let's just say not the most mature companies. They play an apple. Express holds up so wealth stepbrothers still classic Tropic Thunder. We all watch Paul. Troubling lender is so amazing is of course it couldn't there's so many levels which they couldn't be made now today And they really went for it and really was hilarious. Super Bad we also watched which they funny I think it's just. I was too uncomfortable watching it with teenagers. That's why it was less enjoyable to me like an hour with teenagers. It probably would have been more enjoyable adamant about you. What are you checking out right now? I'm just doing puzzles. Are you finishing puzzles? Yeah Oh shit have a good puzzle. I'll show you guys but it will take two and a half hours of voter Am I finishing yes? Finishing check this shit out. Oh I just did this one. Oh Wow is that. Who is that? I can't is a is a clyde. It's it's warm frazier Pistol Pete Marriage. Oh Shit on Ebay. Yeah so did I know movies. No shows come on you. There's gotta be a show. You're watching. I'm trying to think of something funny matinee. I don't I don't know what is going on. Man I'm sorry this whole fucking situation is freaking me out. I don't know I don't even remember what happened yesterday. I'm just trying to keep my hands clean. You're doing a good job. I feel like I feel like the movie is going to make people happy and chill them out a little bit. Also that's that's a that's a good thing so y'all have a lot to be proud of. I appreciate you guys both doing this. Man Thank you thank you very much. Take Care you save. Thank you boys. Thank you to Chris Ryan. Thank you bobby. Wagner tune into the big picture later this week. I think we're going to be talking about the top ten courtroom dramas of all time should be a fun episode in amended Dobbins of see them.

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Beastie Boys on Whats Bittersweet About New Documentary Rollout

"Hey everybody and welcome to the Billboard. Pop Shop podcast. I'm Keith Caufield. Senior Director of Charts Billboard and. I'm Jason Lipshultz Billboards Senior Director of music. Well Hello Jason Welcome. Oh Keith look at that. I didn't even see over there. How's it going well? You can't see me because I'm in a completely different state Jason's back Filling in for The no not vacationing maternity any T- maternity meaning that we're at is the that is the correct term for Katie Atkinson. Who WAS ON MATERNITY LEAVE? But of course Longtime pop shop listeners will know Jason Because Jason and I started off the pop shop together more than six years ago and now we are back. I'm very happy to be back. And thanks for having me back always Keith. And I'm very happy for Katie. Who is a dear friend and I hope I hope to just do her proud over the next couple of months. All right as always the billboard pop shop podcasts. Is Your one stop shop for all things? Pop on billboard's weekly charts. In addition you can always count on a lively discussion about the latest pop. News Fund Charts Stats and stories new music and guest interviews with Music Stars and folks from the world of pop today on the show. We've got chart news about deep breath. Young boy never broke again at Travis. Cotton Kid Cutty Camila Cabello to baby Megan stallion beyond say does your Cat Nikki. Manashe drake and Kenny Chesney. A lot of people. A lot of names. The names plus Keith. We will be sharing with you. A portion of my recent chat with ASD rock and Mike. D of The beastie boys who recently released their documentary. Beastie boys story on Apple. Tv plus. I'm really excited to share that. But I keep before we get going. It's I love saying this if you enjoy the podcast. Subscribe to the show on your favorite podcasts provider. So you never ever miss an episode. And if you want to explore more podcasts from billboard visit billboard dot com slash podcast. Wow it was a while. Since I've said those sentences in it felt just felt like riding a bike. Just said just feel it feel. It feels you feel at home. You know just heels back in the shop. Yeah well first up. Let's do the chart chat on the billboard. Two hundred album start. We've got a baby boom because rapper. Young boy never broke again. Debuted at number one with his new album. Thirty eight eighty two it bumps de Babies Lehman on baby from number one down to number two on the chart. Don't cry for baby though he actually On a different chart this week more on that in just a second But with young boy bowing at number one with sixty seven thousand equivalent album units earned in the week ending April thirtieth of course according to Nielsen Music. Mrc Data Young boy actually clocks his second number one and both of those number ones have come within less than seven months of one another He was last atop the chart Just October with a young boy to but wait. There's more I've got a couple of fun. A baby related factoid. For you for the first time ever the numbers one and two albums on the billboard two hundred have the word baby in their titles since number one. We've got thirty eight baby to at number two. We've got babies. Blame it on baby. Here's another number another fund baby fact. It's the first time an album with the word baby in its title has replaced another number one album with baby in its title and thirty baby to is just the fifth number one album with baby in its title it follows. Of course the babies blame it on baby just from a week ago. Hose yours wasteland baby from last year Britney Spears with baby one more time and U2's Achtung baby in nineteen ninety one well next week watch for either drake or Kenny. Chesney debut at number one on the two hundred with their latest albums which were both released on. May First. It's feeling like drake has the edge here. But you never know how the week will shake out. Drake's new project Lane Demo tapes is heavy on the streaming side while Kinney's new album here and now is big with album sales driven by a ticket bundle album sale redemption offer with his upcoming stadium tour now while I don't know who will be number one. Definitively what I do know. Is that if drake does debut at number one it will be his tenth number one and if. Kenny starts at number one it will be his ninth. Jason Have you listened to the drake project yet and is it. Is it something that casual drake fans can enjoy? Because it seems like it's kind of position as like an odds and sods demo- kind of thing. Yeah it's it's definitely a really strong project four being like an odds and ends collection because not only. Do you have these these lucy songs that he's put out over the past few months. But you also have a number one smash with to see slide is is on there and you also have some some great new stuff as well. There's a song defor L. A. featuring young thug and future. That's just an awesome new posse cut. There is a highly controversial clebration with playboy party that half the Internet loves and half the Internet. I kinda love it. Come on. It's fun and then yeah like I said you have some stuff From earlier this year that that is strong enough that it's worth revisiting a head of this new project coming later this summer. I Guess Yeah Yeah. There's an alleged studio album like a proper studio album. That drake is promising to come later this summer because apparently he releases a lot of our where they aren't stu albums but they're mix tapes or collections or reissues just to keep us guessing. Yeah and he's done this before. I mean if you're reading this it's too late positioned in this way kind of a grab bag of of material and then that kind of preceded views which was a kind of a proper album. I personally like if you're reading this it's too late more than view so you know who knows light. Dark Lane. Demo tapes might actually be stronger project even if whatever he has coming. This summer is is kind of more quote unquote mainstream. So we'll see what happens early. Hot take from Jason. You got it. You gotTA exclusively on the shot. That lastly we've got a number of tidbits about our song charts this week including a number one debut on the billboard hot one hundred chart common in at number one on the hot one. Hundred is the new single from Travis. Scott and Kid Cudi titled the Scots. Why is it called the Scots? You may ask well Travis. Scott is named try to Scott and cut his actual first name is Scott. So I'm guessing that's why it's called Scott's unless Jason suddenly as another reason that I haven't thought so funny 'cause I picture this kind of lightbulb moment between them Travis and and cutty sitting around. It's like what if we formed a duo called the Scott because your first name my last name and and they just like high five over it. It seems like a really nice moment here. I'm sure I'm sure it's exactly what happened Well the song the song the Scots was launched as part of Travis virtual performance in game experience with fortnight Last Friday on the virtual version of Scott performed the track in the game along with a couple of other hits and the event helped draw the largest endgame gathering ever in fortnight with more than twelve million concurrent players logged into the game during the event. Now the SCOTS IS TRAVIS. His third number one on the hot one hundred and it's actually could cut his first. Which actually isn't that terribly surprising. He hasn't had a whole lot of mainstream like success. So kudos to cutty forgiveness. I number one The track begins with forty two point. Two million streams and sixty seven thousand in sales in the week ending April thirtieth along with five point five million in radio audience in the week ending may third moving on staying with hot hundred Megan. The stallion gets her first top ten s savage surges to new. Hi thanks to a new remix of the track. Featuring beyond say you may have heard of her The track zooms from number fourteen to number four following the release of the remix on April. Twenty ninth now. The new chart only reflects less than two days of streaming and sales activity for the track as our sales and streaming week for the newest chart ended on April thirtieth. So Watch for another likely big gain next week. Could she threatened number one. I don't know we shall see in other remix. Does your cat dropped a new remix of her say-so last Friday featuring Nicki Menaj so that song could also see a big. Jump on the tally next week. And it's already top ten so who knows. It could be a battle Bruin in the top three between does your cat and making the stallion Nano we shall see next week Last thing over on the pop songs airplay Chart Camila Cabello Lance her fifth number. One as my oh my featuring baby we mentioned him at the top of the show Jumps to number one she previously led the list with Senorita with Shawn Mendez. Never be the same Havana. Featuring young thug and bad things with machine gun Kelly. Congratulations friend of the PODCAST Camilla. It's it's interesting Keith. I wanted to quickly bring this up. You had all of these. Remix is launch in like a forty eight hour frame. You Have Megan Stellian tapping beyond say for a remix of savage. You had the say so remix featuring Nicki Menaj then you have also Camilla remixed my. Oh my with it. Already had to baby on it. But now she added gun another Pretty big rapper. You figure that maybe this is to try to push the songs up to number one and maybe at least in the case of Meiomi to get it into the top ten for Camilla. I think it's kind of interesting. Yeah I mean they they. Maybe they're all looking at the chart and saying it's a little bit soft at least after this week. It will be soft. Wants the Scots subsides. Would you say that In honor of all of these remixes it's almost like we remixed the pop shop with me with you Keith. Featuring me Jason Yes I would say that I was stretching a little bit there. Okay anyway we gotta get to this It's time for a moment. I'm very excited about this. With Ad. Rock and Mike. D of The beastie boys a little over a month ago I interviewed the guys over a zoom video chat for a Q. and a. About their recently released documentary. Film Beastie Boys Story. You can check out the full interview. Billboard Dot Com right now But we we had some fun bits. It was such a fun. Chat with guys wanted to share a little taste of the interview and some excerpts that didn't make the The folk that you can see online including a funny exchange about the lack of haircuts during pandemic. I got a little shaggy BEF-. While I was doing this. Qa my hair was still pretty long recently. Keith ahead my wife kind of give me a haircut. Some feel a little bit better but but back when we did this interview. It was a little bit shaggy. So Anyway Beastie boys one of my favorite groups growing up. It was such a blast in a bucket list. Item to talk to the guy. So here are some highlights of my chat. With the Beastie boys even how are you wanted your hair doing something weird? Oh my God it makes. Your hair looked like that jet joining to change. That have taken up. You've got a you've got a wonderful thick full head of hair. Mike wanted isn't mass right now. I need a haircut. There's better down. How love a mess could be hairs a same every day? It's out control Brillo Pad. It's not a tamed. Lapatin used to see them very tight. Highly groomed you kind of like the way. Jalen rose or of all the people pick jalen. Rose Okay Very. He's always very well. Mike can you see me okay? It's Jason from yes. You're a little bit of hot spot on Shahs you might WanNa just lighting. Just maybe have them put like a soft filter something gonNA powder. Okay have the team. Yeah I mean yeah my my remote nicotine. Yeah that is a lien on it. Yeah that's what I need I'm honestly terrified. I need a haircut and I don't know if I'm going to get a haircut for like months just discussing. I needed her pet. I think guys. Let's let's put our heads. Leak weaken three of us to make a lot of money right now. What's like this going to be Zuma type solution for people getting their. You can't get there. I mean there's a world of billions equal that now cannot get their interesting clippers thinking shaving my head but you could look to. I'm sure it's on Youtube Michael. You could have someone. Good step-by-step yet. Oh the timing's right out. The vacuum air cutters to come back to the late night the flow be might be the right time. What is the haircutters thing? I have to when when we're kids like on on TV late night there would be info ads like constantly every single. Late night there'd be ads for this thing called the flow be that was like an attachment be put on your vacuum cleaner cut hair and at the same time the vacuum would suck it up. So there's no not only would it cut hair there'd be no mess. Wow you know what? Tv is right television before my time. Man So yeah I honestly I just want to know how it like. I haven't read anything about how this documentary came about obviously comes after the book and it was work with spike on on turning this live show presentation into a mentoring. How do those conversations start? While they're there it's like you said it did start with the book because the book was coming out of an atom and I were faced with this thing. I'm like Oh shit we've gotta go out and promote this book are GonNa go sit in like a bunch of of bookstores with like blazers on and trying to pretend that We're real authors. That probably wouldn't be good lookin' so we started talking to each other like what? What would you know what would be a different way that we present it and then we talk? Respect is well. At that time I forget I just happen to like. I think I was meeting up attend anyway since. That's that's nice thing of having talented people. That are your friends. Also and then we were. We all kind like spun this idea out of like world. What have we we kind of? Make a little bit of a show. We take out the the places of of the book of the stories in the book. will basically tell a story As a whole so like the first aid rations of the show we like we. We were in New York in Brooklyn and La and San Francisco and London. But and that that that that first inauguration those shows was think the closest to the book. Right 'cause we really were more just taking passages of the book in doing a little bit of writing to try to make it work as a whole and then I guess we gotta find like. Wow that that actually seemed to work well and it also trying to check the boxes having for Ottoman highly. Something we've always done his band as we think of the Alkali Matt to is this thing of challenging ourselves or or being being put in a place where we're kind of pretty uncomfortable like Auburn uncomfortable. So so it kind of checked. That box of like being something we haven't done before and then dispensing good so than spike. Kinda got back together with us. We should really film this and like I know you guys have already done shows but we should really film properly. We should really at some unique can really film it properly do it. So then I mean that was one of the next phase was US getting together with spike in To some degree Jeff began in our editor in. Amanda are writing partner in this kind of like writing and rewriting Everyday with the goal of like kind of making it work a little bit better as a show that spike was gonna film and then we then we went to Philadelphia. It's warm ups and went to New York Many Sunday the king's theatre in Brooklyn And we definitely I think I guess we we're filming at read. Every we let shows run a bit longer than they they weren't perfected show is because we knew that we're filming them. We still thought back. That was basically going to be the show and then again. Adamson more like when we first saw rush gut started seeing the cut of the film. Spike already started kind of editing other things into it because he he jeff They realized like basically a worked really well as a stage show but why be limited to just having a be a document or or documentary of backstage show. Why not just have the film be its own saying they? It has a life of its own energy. Chatri who what and I certainly noticed over the past couple weeks as as the release date has opposed approached. An like almost an increase in anticipation for this. Not only because people are excited about everybody's stuck at home so the fact that it's immediately going on a streaming platform is is great news survey. It was weird bittersweet thing a friend send us a text adamant. I like the pictures of on our instagram Jews. Like there's pictures like this apple. Did these like huge. Billboards are right across from the Staples Center here in downtown. La So it was supposed to be the Lakers are going to be the playoffs. The clippers going to be in the playoffs a human to come out of his Carina. Thousands people in see these billboards for this Like beastie boys story on Apple. Tv plus now maybe just once in a while house working on on these over the past couple of years working on the book working on the shows work on the documentary. How's IT? How's everything changed the relationship between the two of you it? Hasn't we still the same fucking love? Hate between a service like got into can't can't wait to slam each other on the couch editor of we've been really really really close friends for almost forty years. So it's it's it'll be like the sunshine boys at some point but for now we're really good friends. Still that's fair. Yeah and last thing I wanted to ask you you guys in. What what. I admired so much about you. Guys as musicians is that you've always made it very forward-looking art and you've spent the last couple years completing some some very backward looking projects and I'm curious where you see yourselves going going from here I mean. Obviously you know the the documentaries coming out in a few weeks and that's your focus but where do you see yourself going beyond this point? Well I'm just trying fuck a stay alive right now. Maybe we can re address three months. Yeah there you go. That's fair. I think were right. That's how that's how I answered most of my questions as well somebody like. What are you doing this weekend? I'm staying the fuck alive. That's what I'm doing guys. I really do appreciate your time. Congrats again on the project. And and thanks for chatting and like I said I've been a fan for a long time. So let's get to finally talk to you guys in. I hope you're well and I hope. Everything goes well with his documentaries. Boy Oh boy it was so who to talk to the guys and Yeah I definitely think. We need to have a Flaubert resurgence that we talked about this. I had no I I had a flow be was before this exchange right before your time. You knew what it was right. Yeah Yeah 'cause I'm oldest. As the thing I will actually I think I mean I. I'm definitely younger. Than the Beastie boys because I want to I want to point out to the listeners. That the first two albums. I bought with my own money where I picked up the albums and it was my own. Money was run. Dmc is raising hell and licensed to ill. The boys look at that. Yeah so they are definitely older than I am but you know not a whole lot. Maybe like what ten years older than me. I love it. Yeah thank you against the PC boys all right now. It's time for the charts sat of the week only twenty five years ago. This week lives throwing copper. At number one on the billboard two hundred albums chart after a leisurely fifty two week. Climb to number one now. The Rock albums strolls number one is one of the slowest rises to the top in chart history and one of the very few examples of a number one album taking a year to get to number one others include Paula Abdul Forever. Your girl and fleetwood. Mac's self titled Album. Throwing copper was released In April of nineteen ninety four and was led by the single selling the drama for more rockets followed from the set including the crossover smash lightning crashes which was a fixture on. Mtv and vh one at the time back when both networks could change the fortunes of an artist's career by placing a video in heavy rotation now. The band continued to release music after throwing copper. Of course and today you can catch the group Still touring though. Of course not right at this moment because of pandemic but in twenty twenty one you can watch for the band tour. Australia with two other rock bands with a grip of hits from the nineteen ninety s Bush and Stone Temple pilots three habit. Twenty five years ago this week lives throwing copper. Hit number one on the billboard. Two hundred chart the all right when you've reached the end of our big back back back with Jason Show reunited and it feels so good any partying words. Jason Two quick things first of all lives single lightning crashes rules It is a great karaoke song. Just wanted to throw that out there and second of all Happy to be back Keith. Wow we we started this podcast together in twenty thirteen here in two thousand twenty where we're living the dream so thanks for having me back So what songs should we go out on? It's your pick. I got a good one. We're talking about remixes and how this is kind of like a remixed version of pop shop. So let's go out on new kids on the block's remix prentice. I like the I love this track. If you haven't seen the video go watch the video it just so good time the free.

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Hewlett get emas live today like last week's such patriots big mouth or follow social media to find out about this idiot. Meltzer packet always saying is is a pints and most of it will fit into this. Bogilov only go right now with the legends. I like big mouth and I can not lie now. The beastie boys have made a movie. You can watch it right now on your apple. It's a retrospective documentary. A is it any good way. You'll have to wait and say hey go say probably pretty able to keep onto the day. Our Radio Apple. Tv and it goes a little something like this ready now. Here's a little story that I got to tell about three bad brothers that you know so well. It started way back in history with that. We're GONNA do right. Here is go back way back back into time. People go out of you out. Was the driving force. One that not only gives themselves going and doing great things it says we should all do. This was that type of people is fastened. The beastie boys and was really excited to watch this at anybody. Read the Beastie Boys Book that came out little St John's holding up just now a and this was a date line Light show. That is a documentary. Love is a Ads kind of because I because I read the book I knew experienced it as like an adult to the book rather than a kind of standalone thing and I think that's how it works best. I don't know how people would maybe unfamiliar with Would experience it all people who haven't read the book a Yeah See. I haven't read the book when I'm fairly familiar with my BC's lower and I've I've found it. I found both pretty kind of easy to follow but also but really compelling unconscious of emotionally powerful really because essentially what they says what. The bulk laws is while it seems to me. I mean say hey waiting to be read It's basically a kind of big old letter to their meetings died. I mean what leaps the whole thing is how much autumn. Yuck drove what they did and how he was the kind of found solve the mad be St Ides's that made a lot of the beach. Boys what they are. I mean from your you curate. Sog Elsa from a cinematic points of view thirty thirty presses with is anybody done like a duck a live presentation of documentary like this before the euro. And I couldn't be any I was watching it and I think you're anything that was similar. The only thing. That doc kind of mind well it was maybe it was maybe an unfortunate thing that it brought to mind was like. I did think. Oh this is just like films Tedtalk on light because may pass because it was on apple. Tv just me of live. They can apple positions. They do like Steve. Jobs to than iphone riches Tv so that was in my mind. But I'm not sure how that she worked as fill a thought. It was like quite a kind of bold line to film it and because it was spike Jones and stuff like some kind of bits of the show where the kind of Wollo they kind of acknowledged partway Kind of role ogies as a telecom. That's like quite and messes with be kind of the idea of it being a stage two but I'm not sure how much it as a film but it was the kind of emotional kind of May for that I think. Yeah Yeah I mean the interesting thing is and this may catch. Who knows shot? They leave all the mistakes. I imagine a mistake. Doesn't it at the Moment Williams? Sure I mean you must have been counted. The BEASTIE BOYS JERRY. You're smash it stays as chief taught reporters much as when they were but they were public enemy before public. Did you encounter? It was very when they showed up the headline of Po. What popstars sneer? At dying case from nineteen eighty seven. I can remember being in the thick of black because that was they were they were there in terms of the British media. They were there at the point. The British tabloid newspapers realized that part was really worth digging into that was kind of a tipping point as well. You know the birth of Piers Morgan and be the strange and ugly creatures that came out of tabloid reporting the media really sort of grew out that I was at the Monterey Festival. I think that that incident had around then and I was desperately trying to report on some of it but actually critique was doing all the spotted the story really early on Antidoto from his desk in the smashes office. I was there trying to get into the place. He's just calling them up and writing a brilliant piece about all that how the how the media had covered at the time. But I see in terms of how to anybody's on for couple a hybrid hats on here and say the cross CORETEC did this as a tool they did for the last couple years celebrates or last year celebrating their twenty fifth anniversary. Whatever it is and they did the live documentary film footage playing along with the British very much that style and have to say a million times better. I thought it was pretty awful. Did you not like? I thought he wasn't. Ted Talk though Ted ex bryce. Do you know what I mean. I thought it actually it lessens. My my love of the Beastie Boys. I thought they were a bit. Cringes two middle-aged men walking around terms looking at smug about what they've done and that I never wanted to say that because I love the based is too and I kind of really made me shrivel a little bit and I would you say people. Who didn't know the Beastie boys let my son's a big hip hop obey. Didn't he's never really looked at baseball's so I sat him down after ten minutes. He won't go to a room that yeah I mean. There is a the cameras. Snap out to the audience. And it's a lot of middle aged white people neil intelligentsia and thankfully all of the celebrity cameos kind of corralled into a post credit sequence where we see. Dr Tobias from arrested development's ads but still and debut Chevy was already quite quite cringe moments. It's a it would do off the fail of a kind of celebrates a major authors that we pay in for ninety nine four on Apple. Tv I actually. I found a lot of it quite Particularly them in the but both I mean they use when they just spotty morons. Debbie moronic things and the bits whether you know the fact that they left the mistakes connects to the fact that they leave the bits where brock sorta starts breaking down a little bit thinking about his. Is She really touchy? But I can see what you mean because it is a it is a long self. Congratulations on the go in here. I think what did you say I would tend to agree that I think that this more in the book and this is just the live version of the book. I was expecting something that was going to be. Edited up a more of a documentary Jones just went record in the then. He sat down. The problem. Also is the audience. It's an audience. It's like the Oscars with baffles or something. It's another famous people laughing clapping along a boo. Pink everybody's onside and so it becomes a high geography rather than anything else. I agree it sort of doesn't make you ought to them. You know they could be unveiling a new ipod or something like that. I always found baseball because I was at the age where I didn't understand the irony I saw as just frat boys and so it took me a long time to come round to realize that they that which they had to undo themselves because they were promoting that sort of image. So I don't necessarily naturally anyway. It takes me a little bit of wild. And especially that really good about kate the drama who's in the band and how they kind of messed up A. And actually the Beastie boys with the goal is such a much better ideas of conceptually anyway. And I liked that stuff about them and I can see what they're doing but as a whole my attention to it start to wonder even when a maybe because the Benneteau with Madonna and doing that sort of stuff. Yeah I know that sort of story. And that's the bit that put me off so I think I liked to affirm the Nikkei simply because I I enjoyed it. It may be taking place on Safel- There is actually quite a lot of exciting footage into caught with it unquote a lot of weight stuff that even I haven't seen Saudi follows that I did sort of. I did kind of respect the degree to which they were willing to have a net to survey filings particularly in the early days with with the with cello back effectively. They've this is a Bantu. Spent fifteen years apologizing facility and they did in nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety-seven and didn't really kind of get the It wasn't really wiped away until sabotage really in the mid nineties. Which you know the idea that you've got to be locked into something he did when you're nineteen and twenty forever terrifies me because I look at my table. Writing published magazines when I was that age and thank God. Nobody ever sees again. If I've got the incident Albany events so I didn't sort of maybe it's because also middle-aged float now. I could very much sympathize with them. God like God the things that not that I ever ran your with gigantic inflatable hydraulic payments. Boss I use show. Well we will story with Dick did we did we got surprises with. We learn things so we didn't. We didn't know I wasn't really aware of exactly what Dick's they've been in the early days to their old friends and manages a neither was. I aware executable phone my hump making polls Batik because only ridiculous outfits that I knew I didn't realize that they had belonged to an actual a Hollywood chests of the Nineteen Seventies. Rated Wardrobe. Really enjoyed all that for each of them. Wearing all the doc load since the flight yet like they utopia they And stuff was a That's kind of like Shamas saying is expecting a Together documentaries and so those bits were I think highlights I am especially from Zine the images of that in the book and having a footage of that was really exciting and really fun and I just think I think something that I was glad that they talked about law passed because I was such a tribute to Adamy. Ouch was they told about kind of visual element of the group and got the date That showed only A. She's videos name age or did the named Samuel Hole which Kinda likes they kept to pretends have even knew and so not only kind of visuals that he created but also the kind of the focus on all the fashion in supply dot like when they were talking about a when they were fiscal interacting and they sovereignty and see a day as much as they did. I think fit before they wanted to. They wanted to have the same train as it's dancing and like what? You look like veteran stuff. So that those visuals still. I think all three basically kind of fashion to fight even though they are like middle aged guys. Now you see them on stage and they're still wearing quite nice clothes and Stephanie conceded Projector Age A. I'm glad the visual focus was still bad. Still about that. It's definitely the header of where did you put faces. Utah which you'll never get bored so qualified qualified but let's face it. None of us can go anywhere you might as well watch it. You can't go out tightly. Sean. Shall we live about music music music? It's time for him from one of our guests clinicals. What track you sending to US Contact free delivery contact pre delivery. I'm sending you a kerosene by each from a Heaven tortured mining which is mining Afar thing if I'm allowed to call that in April. Wow great tennis about eve to you is a kind of experimental hawk. Electronics artists could've been down as released. A couple of records am in the past ten or so years. Aim Me when I think he's a real step up. An is more of a kind of more of a punk records and it has a lot of like kind of rb rock soul influences. It sounds a lot like prince in in a kind of in a genuinely exciting wave And distract especially reminds me like Barry Sexy Prince jets. Yet is my favorite song from the album that change. Okay doesn't sound very prolific. You say couple of albums and ten to eleven years. No not really Fresh Enough Fred. Yes asandra Harrison says French. Let's give it listen. It's kerosene by eve to move now two albums. In four years that's a comparatively hectic work great for about the pretenders vintage but Chrissie. Hi Dante Code Lineup released their eleventh album. This year hate for sale is produced by Stephen Smith. Bliss streets and cover it with hines new foil. James Welby is it any good. It was supposed to come out this week. But yes waltz. Bleak ovid intervene Jessica. It's not go back to the seventeenth the July we thought whatever opelousas complicity so. We're GONNA talk about it anyway after this we might. You've got quotes on mistake. His the current single untitled track attribute to the this Recital Sale Dole will take communist William Shaw Christi Hind. Answers hit new album with the renege words. If it ain't broke don't fix. It was it broken. Did beat me like a lovely warm coats. You tried many times before I mean. It's a lovely lovely sales and You know it's just voice. It's the whole approach to songs. It's really familiar to anybody from my generation and it just feels at times let base a nice cozy thing familiar thing to put on. She's really good you know her voice is beautiful. Her boys is really stunning. And some some writings have voiced never add. How old is that? It's like she sounds like she did and how she's maybe this is Oldham Salon. She's all the world treatment. It's called her life last year I think morals and so she did to our show. Whatever and it doesn't falter and I think that's an amazing achievement for anybody. I mean. It's a beautiful when she does that. Floaty thing he moves up to the top registered. The voice suddenly changes. Its thing in its will. And she wobbles a bit inst- chest goddesses. Man Yeah it is absolutely gorgeous. And it's also it's a rocket project isn't it? He has mellowed at age mates. She says his is is is at a you know. This is playing in our old people's homes. Isn't it this kind of stuff? Says it's now shut up but you know I I. It's an interesting. Hey says at the time. Do you see I took it as this wonderful. So of reform on on the hatred of punk and how it's kind of turned into this really toxic thing and generation. You know that now. Every sort of them have bad You know twitter stuff. The haters become this. Kind of weird commodity. Now yes that's about what I took from. An IS A. That's a really great but what I say what I say to the. I think I think it's sensitive was inspired by the feel of the damned and it does have some down d bits in the middle where you cut it the whole thing so it takes away origami shape and you can imagine dave onion into through the smoke and you must have encountered Miss Hinde on your Paul. Travels for details magazine perhaps soulful as much the. It date night. They'd never a sadly note as they. I wish I had moved. There is a major glamorous while go here is allegedly truck turf accountants dotty with lyrics about a bad dude. Done a lady wrong and things like that and there's also launch unfit salivate Tobruk which are very refreshing airport by the motive. Even I have it is trying to visit. Nineteen seventy of. Buzz is kind of based on the riff from Kate as well. You know. It's sort of like evening. Yeah I know so. She's just one song we saw about her painting which is just like okay like I don't know when to stop and actually fearlessness. Will about she had to finish a painting which is nice little metaphor. I think it's so tragic that this even a Nath class style reggae track lightning Matt with Dr Elements Audio on which I actually not fry can occasionally stinker. That wisely best. That's also you can't fool which is like a big ballottee someone it now the right Psalm. Actually that's somebody should cover. That's a great to doxa lately. Clever ZIVA FAM- Odyssey. That was this new realized realized adult really knew the pretend is not well album a listen to that few times but I've never been like a massive crisis in my listening a obviously a very cool and I think that that is enjoyed from the album. The most hit. I didn't get the kind of wall hoke feeling just because have the same relationship to it but it was instantly kind of recognizable sound. I think because his voice and I really like how she is I think a law bans when this far into that kind of sound like they're going through the motions Performance I think has a little. She has a lot more fun with it. And that was really nice to hear like yeah also the I think one of the things the interest they pretend this is thought. It's it's but it's always a band that she has to reassemble. It's it's it's it's never really famously. Being in the pretenders was most high risk occupation in the world fifty percent death rate in the early days but she continues to reassemble at you. Pretenders up on. I sound like the idea of Rochman should bay and it's always massively kind of instantly identifiable this year. She's got she's rising. I don't know to. What extent is there a rigorous interview process? Where she goes okay. Can you do a brushing pocket? Can't you can't talk of the town. Can't you do these things or whether the whether it's just the vibe that magic I know she's also you. She's definitely women in specialty. She's an archetype full. That way of covering rock music and distributed rock compensating. He's one of the few people who probably deserves the word icon is say so just just from the kind of the image of on the front of the radical Jewish. She's just like wearing the leather jacket and she looks amazing. And it's like this. I think that's like it's such a cliche but it's like if you can just wear leather jacket look really great Able to it probably. Would you doing all right but I think one of the thing as I am not massively familiar with think as songs in hip knee meeting? I've a younger generation of of rock singers that I really love like it had performance reminded me a Laura Jane Grace from against me. He's like rick favourite oxygen a DASA. Probably that kind of speaks to Iraq is probably. I'm recognizing in in now the people that I really know show. What did you like it? I really liked it and I like the it just sounds truthful and I think that's the only thing you can ask of any autism. She's singing as herself. She's singing as the sixty eight year old and yet it's still rock and roll this enormous public field. It's Dr Phil Good Pablo. It's something that's coming from her. And everything the Paul Mike. Ross I really liked is. She is seeing so much from her own experience. And there's that element Chrissie Hinde. No one else can do that. No one else can say the things that she says and yet they do connect as well and I thought it was lovely losing you as a relief. She sings on that track about someone. They've been lonely. Listener as leaf is wonderful line and then yet but he just so honest and so I just are just it. Does she do respect. It's all that was an icon. She's just really good at what she does. But there is no sense of parody here at all and I think that's the opposite. Yeah one thing I like about as well was it didn't feel like hey incomes producer to knock this bound into shape stephen straight like it. It's got a very full ad I was about to say. Bt Sound that probably not the right thing to go thirty four. I'm powerful. Shall we say? Well you don't get sense. Someone else's committed impose themselves at the. It's still it's massively massively as recognizable. I listened to it four times in a row without realizing it play full-time which is good for me. You know if this is what trump broken supposed to sound like like it never does but this this company this is this is kind of fulfilling the promise of what you don't really get from boast kind of shall we say legacy acts you tend to sound a bit limp. Really liked it. Yeah good more. Is it coming July? It not come out now well. This is a blatant as usual. People should of high shouldn't like things on hive. Guess BECAUSE HIVE is the local shopping network. That way your local record shop bookshop gets gets it tastes so I'm audrey my stuff on Yup well Doug Christie. Hi Yeah this is the sound of being sixty eight on the stick healthcare obsolete sixty eight right now something. I've wanted to say on big mouth for a long time now for some modern dance this is thought BBC. I pat now showing to a simple rock and roll. Song is dances. Michael Clarks two thousand. Seventeen Bob can show which features features music from Very Patti Smith and Eric Salty. Clark of course. We know him for his bottoms out ballet costumes and the show he did. I'm curious orange with the full in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight eighty nine. I've got here. I think we're crashing. He also leap. Barry Wire squishy many more so is this is Mojo as dance can get clarinet. I have watched this some would say so. You don't have to but is there anyone else like Michael Clark. Andreasen watched it. This isn't on the program but any excuse to play it. Here is the full with curious. Orange BACK TO CURE. The good thing about lockdown is that it's made available all sorts of things that you wouldn't normally see and can temp readout says one of them as much as people jumping seriously Opposite ours. I love Michael Clock so I thought it to served a special mention class. I won't talk to you. Do you watch dance? Are you a fan in? I do watch dumbs mainly because I have a friend to go to the theater with an IT fixed John's it. On so I don't really know anything about Dukakis and ADO tend to enjoy a would've Both of our favorite. Since is Michael thing that I didn't like it because it's the I know under the falls. Obviously a new him from. I'm curious orange and I watched some of his phone. Sofala just like occupancies on cable until you and it was really exciting to see a full show I think I really enjoyed this one. I introduced by Jarvis. Cocker to get indicates in Who say you know that you people around you might immediately not want to have a look but you will be you'll be ending up doing the shapes? Anyway Golf's widened do some shapes near a beanbag. Don's Michael clock makers experiments music in a different way. If we allow the cousins to fullback and to watch it what is he doing with the things that we know like Patti Smith and Bowie? Yeah I can use allowing us to experience it in a different way. I think it draws out different kinds different meanings different kind of different lines that we integral in different ways and stuff. I think it's like any kind of any use of of music in a different thing. Like whether it's used in the film or whether it's used in reference Book Cardi thing is it it kind of it gives you a different perspective on it. A and I think that that is especially I think with David Bowie in this world to me. That was especially kind of yet. Did that made me made me kind of think it differently I am. I went into it thinking. I'm not quite sure what to expect. Not the full one and I don't know what is going to happen but I found hypnotic and actually as a way to when art can really remove you from the outside world especially the madness. That's going on out there and for an hour to be in this different world with a different rhythm unjust be watching music. I just thought came on those experiences that I felt like I was almost in the theater. At the time I was really really drawn in which surprised me. Andrew William did you see it or would you this on your list. Didn't because Philistine. And I I'm afraid. Dom Dogs no speak to me now. Sean you can look at it alone. Gone Point Stony. What about you live my wife? My wife chains big in content. Big into contemporary dance and actually was was a festival programmer and used the program people at Deviate Hofer Scheckter and things like that and put them on on. So you know I have to be an. I've always you know I mean POPs has been about body language. Hasn't it so? It's just natural that lots and lots of choreographers had actually taken this and found new ways taking that body language and doing stuff with it because that's all said what contemporary dance does that. I think it's great. I mean it's just. It is really exciting. I always got dragged along to these things. We're left to come out. The world actually really good because like I can't default position at I button. That actually knows wonderful. And it's brilliant and there's a lot I mean it's quite fun isn't it just shows up how you know even the Jarvis Caucus afraid of this like it. It's a bit of a four on our side isn't it? Andrew is absolutely put. I I sort of think you can't be econ into everything. I become a decision in the eighty S. I was just not going to video games. And just not GonNa do it. I haven't got space in my brain takes up too much time on my nieces and nephews always go but it's an awful beano dinars. Who's a great you know? But it's the kind of thing this replacing fiction. You know. You'd really like you'd be John I probably would but I'm just not going to because I covered enough time to get you the things I actually already like being. Look at all this. You know a half man half biscuit Michael. Clark would you watch it? What about you tim I would have? I would happily watch Michael clarks interpretation. Shite Day Oh only sung cycle based on trouble over bridgwater because obviously that would be amazing. You regret going to see the curious orange by that. Was in London in London too far away in those days. Yeah I don't look about saying stop just in a world where my sky plus box eighty percent full and I still chiseling away. I said a new still not sure. I've got space in the mental trivial to see pie to fit well as a huge stockpile of acid house recipes. That there is enough cultures. That's the that's the difficulty that anyway. Well actually that's the interesting thing about now isn't it because the rights is locked down? That happened in two thousand. Whatever it will stop television from being made now. This is everything for being made. So how did the pause moment? And it's great because you can go back and reinvestigate loads of probably what we should do on this. Podcast is to use of old films old things that we have talked about. Just dig into that as well as I was now very dangerous. What's happened is the book shots are finding new books. Really hard supply so people reading the ones. They've already gotten shelves that will not bastards on. That's a that's a form of theft. Well I like the fact that the Barbican putting out the stuff on I player something. That's really Nisha expensive. The only a few people can see in London is now out in the in the wider world and I think fabulous next week in John's Nash. Kona will be doing pre enlightenment. Woodcutting techniques with transmissions. Five state sounds a truck from guests. Williams show what are you picking via safe and government sexual Sanctioned file-sharing lies. Today hanging you attract cool catch a woman called Donovan. Sqi listening comes from trying to find a radio station with interrupt me writing and for years. I've settled on the French Internet station feet while it's is is a national broadcast station but the the advantages them speak in French between records and they don't speak very much means that I don't pay attention to any of it and carry on and occasionally it'll team comes up and catch Ryan this one by Donald Danske came up and normally I don't like the whole whispery woman vocals Thing and she does that and it's a bit sort of Niko in its presentation. But it's really beautiful song basically about how she can't catch and ask somebody rather myself was called butter fingers for my first year at school because I likewise can't catch I like lots of very is. It's a delicate song. Says she's Canadian and she is. The debut album. Called yesterday is gone. That's out last month. Basic anybody who has now lost out last month deserve some support right now. It's not a metaphor about being unable to catch. Meaning she catch as like I literally come catch yourself but I'm hopeful that you'll is rural house only. Let's have listened. This is catch by Dana Gavin. Ski We're GONNA stick by playlist as well which will make available by social media channels. As soon as it's finished the days when I sit show thanks to help me feel So finally the movies. When Irish director Lakhan Finnigan was making his new movie? He worried that people find the premise of a couple themselves effectively trapped inside their home. Unable to leave a little farfetched he know the various stars Jesse Eisenberg from the social network our an imaging boots as a couple looking for new home and drawn to a place called Yonder by rather eccentric estate agent. Who resembles a young David? Byrne is it a cul de sac. Is it an entire town? All the houses look identical same desire laws. Let's listen to the trailer. Many homes have the pretense of being ideal. These really are ideal. It's not exactly for we're looking wait. No I don't think this is the right way. Yeah this is what we came in. We just silence. What if they don't come would we? Should this house's forever perfect environment for your family likes relating sometimes not the with each other all the time who wants to that's nature. That's just the way things are inside number nine. The setup is pretty simple young. Couple good to look at the new building. Now that's not for us the simplicity. This is one of the film's many joys Claire. I'll start with you. Would you buy new build from Martin the Susa Estate Agent -solutely not I would not even gone into the show and then Chelsom. That would've been interesting. I thought this I thought this was. The film was quite an interesting premise. And it was entertaining. I thought that the analogy was slightly on the news at the a couple that. Go to a Kennison thousands. This debate has been kind of facination of films sci-fi and music can an all kinds of external time in which is maybe why I felt that it was a bit worn and so the the in the woman ends up doing the child rearing because they get given this child until to raise the child and then they'll get lat out so she can it. Does the child rearing and demand. Is this kind of pointless? Physical work is digging a hole in the gardens. Child finds something in bed at at. I was entertained. Was watching it but I was like is this. Is this event. I kind of know exactly what you're talking about here. And there's not really many twists A. It's quite a job of work to make to make something so simple for us to suspend disbelief that they just can't escape. It's no spoiler to say they can't escape. There is a scene where they go round in the car and that just it's like an MCSE painting where they at all of it is quite like a painting. They just can't get around to the same point but he also. I didn't think it was a great film related. If you know what I mean I I I thought it seems to have quite original voice in a way that was really nice and I love non-religious told making it wasn't it was I think any you know the the trying to make logic will be really bad idea because it doesn't really make sense doesn't hang together but it's a lovely. It's a nice story in this whole thing right. At the beginning we see A cuckoo chucking things out of its nest and that's a mess for that comes about rearing children in his SORTA strange environment and actually not level. Because it's I've never I didn't own anything about Logan Finnigan and he's written by Bloke but actually the character of the woman was the one I found really interesting. You know imaging poos has to raise this baby and it was far more like a thing about that whole thing between mothers and the children who feel like aliens and I thought imaging posted a great job on that Jesse Eisenberg just always Jesse. Eisenberg doesn't same thing. But I liked being this really blown haired blue eyed perfect mother figure and then hating her child growing to really you know like lots of there's a kind of Shell Watch we do about Kevin. Kind of five to really liked yes. Andrew Your thoughts I do agree that it's actually. Her film isn't as image inputs film and she says there's a refrain which ever as refrains do you repeat them. I am not your mother which is ready. Stoned yeah I loved it. I thought this was a feature length. Halifax Advert Common Nightmare because the brightness of the houses are all the same on the endless streets the oldest antique cleanliness of the gardens that That could be like out higher so they could be show it. It is a nightmare scenario. And we've all seen those things that you second-best will now if solar vivre trying to sell us a new bit of insurance and what we say there is a real human beings with both flows and defections but also kind of hit by a hipster self regard of when like everybody else where individuals were placed into an area where being meat that's meaningless and what you were saying about how impeach his character falls into the child rearing role and Jesse is advice falls into the Muslin role of the films. He said. That's what Superbia does it forces you into a role erases all the things that you think are individual by. You attended you into Paul suburban scame. Yes I mean. Superior is the butter this compensates for a long time. I thought this was a really really good version of it. I thought it was a it was a tales of the expected with CGI. I thought it was like being trapped in an orbital album cover kind of shiny grotesque BC that they do so really while Balustrades Africa illustrates I thought it was both at thought. Provoking and inevitable e kind of know the rails of these cars zero. It reminded me a lot of big mouth favorites like happiness. The Spanish movie about the telephone box with a guy goes to make a telephone call advance. Get out the telephone box. A classic of shuttle Florida. It's early days which we've mentioned on the show before we've watched the odds listen Is Trump scowled? It themselves So I really had thought she was fantastic. I Agree Jesse Ozbek. His giving good Jesse is Becky. But she was brilliant. I also it reminded me of A. This is what would really be like spartacus with his plastic hair that before lazy all programs. It's like a malignant version of lazy town Where all always? It's supposed to be good shade lizzy actually will eat you alive. I did a bit of nosing around because notice the name on the credits as somebody. I was involved in this film this concept them on facebook toby's bagels at. This thing is insane. He said yet. It should have been even more inside. There was budget for the you know if budget had been available for other things so in my head there is now a C- caller expounded twelve inch version of this movie at other great. I was glad to say. I think it's a good time because it's not really about suburbia. It's an isolated with people about lying about not. Everybody has to be together all the time. I think he's got a loud quite ardal people. So I'm saying to thumbs up and seeing into how seeing T. streets and it was supposed to be shocking in the film and his kind of light. That's quite unsettling isn't it only empty streets around the house? Suddenly Philip familiar and what he said about special effects they leave the real special effect to quite licensed film. As a really clever little thing they do with a set kind of dissolves and they do something else with it and I liked the fact that just dramatically. They'd say that for the last quarter because it's not actually though it takes place with a fantasy science fiction context it's not actually a science fiction phillies not in effect fill. It is a character drama of intense of an intense experience of what it would not. Would you take out of your idea? What yourself is a major to become someone else which is incredibly chilling. It a lot of ways it is. It is the subject of horror. What happens when you have to become something that you would not sense whereas baby and I do think it's actually a film about? I can read it as a film about post-natal depression about you. Just have to say leaving your spouse to bond with your mother. I'm not your mother and the man become surplus because it's about this relationship with with the child. It's this is a great film if you can see it parents really really get it can get it on vhs. I got that on. Abe is amazing. It's about the suburbs and it's about parents. During very strange things reminded me watch this and basically we all loved it. I really liked it. I really like tip. I recommend it thoroughly because basically if you'll stuck on depressed on your own this is really what you need to watch a movie about two people. It's time for closing time charter. This closing time in lockdown as licensing laws do not apply my kitchen so what will guest talking about is a carry on into the small hours as the cruelty of. Don't arrives William Much playing time Catheter for London. Do these livestream stuff on on. Facebook live every day and I occasionally when just before we start. I say I'm going to do the segment where people have to stand up and show what they're wearing below the waist and there's terror goes. I insist really. I think this is a it's a plea to we. GotTa we gotTA keep standards up. We have to dress. It's psychologically important that we actually have a shave in the morning. Andrew and I have shaved since the twelve william shore and shoes and like that socks that I used to share a house with a with a guy who they. That's what I mean by not the size down for wearing these slippers not bad slippers. I suppose I agree with you with him. I remember reading so it was. It was it hints and tips. The freelance lifestyle and putting on proper cloth's is the most important thing because it self respecting it makes you feel that you're actually a functioning part of the world rather than just sitting around and biscuits and watching the hunting penalizing upset. I just knew it was the wrong one. Yeah spot security polkadot. So I'm not sure I think. I think you're allowed to global pandemic allowed to wear pajamas surely but under Williams regime. He's policing already us as viewers of this lobster note. You've got you look you deviate from it so you don't have to buy makeup for the ladies and for some men. Makeup is what I do to make yourself feel more awake anyway. What's your closing time chatter? Mike wasn't Is An wants to briefly? Talk about how I've been enjoying the studio Ghibli films which to open cottage Netflix. Now the second wave of those was added last week. Thank I think about twenty odd studio Ghibli films available netflixing. I've never seen any of them before. And I've been like making my ways rhythm really enjoying the Specifically I really enjoying a To lock down thing is it's kind of it's kind of the the middle of the vendee. I'm of the things that get reluctant on. Which is clued on watching films so in the middle of them is studio Ghibli because the way that they show eating and food in Jones is amazing is really been like motivating me cheech to take care of myself because perfect because of the show in. Dylan's is up past whether that's a of the instruments away all of the employees of the Backhaus Making all this luxurious speech. A so no face to impress him. Aw whether it's in neo. Whether as a levine a two kids get home after a long day in the Makes Dan Takes two minutes and stay. Have to wait until the noodles cooked properly. And it's like big excitement of way into not and I just think that it's a really nice way of showing how even if it's if it takes you ages artifice really quick than food is like really important for nourishment and Stolas your product s Angie. What's your closing time data? I've rediscovered a great difficult. President Super Villain. What this guy does he finds classic images of the Evil Super Villain the red skull from Captain America and into the speech balloons he puts Coach Donald Trump things that donald trump has said and The one this week which I'm trying to put into the judges absolutely classic Captain America's lying prone on the floor the red skull it is Nazi jumps. He's talking to an evil scientist and he say supposedly hit the body with a tremendous whether it's ultraviolet just very powerful lights supposing you brought the light inside the body which he could do you just do the scandal song I see the disinfected where it knocks it out in a minute one minutes. Is that a way we can do something like that by injection inside almost cleaning. And so this is. This is trump's thing all bleach articulacy by Presidency the Redskins and I just thought there is no better. Put The pitcher in now for the people that are just. There is no summation and another. You know the terrible sons were introduced some great Yima on of course we'll back all day You know what is the pizza cooked by the sound of Nineteen Thirties? Why Germany which got so much time you know is it possible that were laughing pointlessly hateful. I just think prison soup is an amazing thing and it will brighten your day. A little bit ask mine is exhibition chickens. You may laugh someone. I little jared shila who films for Jeremy Taylor and other artists he works with taste and all sorts of things autism making them accessible He decided to put on an exhibition for the chickens in his backyard. I think it's not a joke. But now it's a thing so he's asked it's an open call or put the Put Lincoln on there for exhibition. Full the chickens and he's actually been looking into how chickens see how they hear what they might want what they want a wonderful quote face which I will paraphrase get wrong. He says I don't know if the chickens won't exhibition but I don't know they don't want it and so from this guy. He is pushing the exhibition on. He's GonNa get a lot of really really bored very well known office to send in Japex. He's going to put them out on the printer and there's going to be exhibition. He's doing on his instagram feed. Which is father father of Dawdlers so I might might submit something? I think it's for Friday. Maybe Saturday for our viewers. If you WANNA really really quick I'll I'll say jared you might get some late entries but what a great idea is the first exhibition for chickens. Ever globally ever ever ever lockdown either. I think it's my favorite. Art Lockdown idea should love Poetry High. And she's interested she covets. She would say to the show. Thanks to Claire. Piddles William sure for being positive it to say you delighted to be looking at you. Rooms bit thank you as well to our patron subscribers for watching and making this very special. 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They've received is with me. Steve How are you great? Just great yeah. Let's let's be with America. This was the day it was critical. Mass was reached in Stanford Steve S. VP's house with both of us have three young children. It was snow flurries in Connecticut and then the household meltdown in both houses. True or false true. I mean look What are we what are we doing? Steve Steve What are we doing? Steve Help me what do you WANNA do? You WanNa know what I did or no. I wake up again numerous sex. Obviously you know we could. We could get along. I still understand about this worry about paper. Okay if you have issues toilet paper. Here's the deal you're at home. What else is in your bathroom than a toilet? A shower so you just take a shower if you're getting low on toilet paper. Is that all that hard anyway? Anyway I can we hold walk and we all we all that. Yeah I can't you gotTa wipe your man like it's like you could get shower. Great but then you gotTa Wipe Your Butt so I I don't I I don't know about your situation. I mean I'm a little bit haunted by my man. Charlie who could go for two year old shouldn't have been able to take and he needed toilet paper like you couldn't throw him in the shower fix what he did all right. We needed whites and we need a gross of whites. So I understand the theory but I do think it's even poche our you're gonNA need to wipe your butt the got it. I got wipes we got wives. We divers worse now right all right all right so we coupled texts. Hey Cosco's got just re upped toilet paper paper towel. I'm hey you know what I'll take the team. I'll get in the car I go. I go forget. My sister has the Costco Card. I let her take turn around. That's another twenty five minutes. Get COSCO NO toilet paper. I wanted to kill somebody. So what is there? Were no tax check. In what else do we need vegetables? We need some fruit. We get all that get home and oh there's a towel outside. We have to wash everything down. Forgot about that baby starts crying. One just miserable to take a nap. That's the day that that's how we got started in about You know ten ten thirty right so after Charlie took a dump a two year old cannot physically humanly. Make all right like I don't talk and right now like I am still. I've been parenting for a while. Here I do like this. He's my third. I've seen some stuff man but yeah I don't under- I don't understand. He's not a big. He's not a adult size person right but what he did was adult sized. All right miss was late and after we sorted that out which I understand why men woke up because he took other adult size dealt in his diaper got it but then we put him back and then he came back he was he was he was wild and like he's like he's up for whatever none of it is night. We established all night. Daddy yes look outside. It is dark everyone is asleep. All right you lay with me all right for a little bit and then I think I think he's passed out but he's got like this this thick since this radar that even if he's out if I sit up is open. It's it's horrifying. It's like instant wake up. And then at like four o'clock he came back again and I'm like well you have got to go to bed and then I finally understood. He had to stay in there. But it's eight o'clock in the morning. He comes dive bombing me in the bed and I sincerely you gotta go. He's I I'd miss you and then I'm like I melt my heart melts. 'cause my man said he missed me. I'm like that's Kinda sweet but like this has to stop. We decided I don't know what to do. I'm not a spouse opening states. I'm not saying you should stay on the steps of your State House with guns like if you WanNa do that. I guess it's America. We can do what we want. I'm saying we should listen to the people. They have the best ideas. I'm just saying in our house. We got to be able to do something besides what we're doing every day. 'cause we can't keep sustaining this man and if it if I can't keep coming in here at night putting on Maple shows if I'm GonNa have to feel short. How grounders at my house. Non Stop Steve. I can't do it. Broken April twenty. Second was the day I broke. I Bet I bend it a little bit little strong. Yes I know. This is mental. We will get through. It doesn't help. You know the same thing we got we got. We got one doing home school. We got the other just wants to wrestle and we got another one that's crying and got diapers and you know we don't have a a sixty five degree days. Can we get a degree day? Yes Sir no win. We get sick. Yeah can we get sixty? Like I'll say I'll take mid fifties without a hurricane force wind and a wind chill and Snow flurries on the twenty second of April. Tell the win fronts to stay at home all right. Give me a little sunshine. I got you. I think maybe Saturday I saw fifty in Saudi. What do we do we do? And God bless Travis. He's like hey man you must when you asked if we want to do a podcast. You must be chuck and duck because you know that I'm going to be like no. I don't WanNa do a podcast about you. WanNa know what. This is helpful. Thank you definitely. Thank you next next time. Can you remember your headphones and also I poured a drink. I thought we bailed on today so I went to drink and so you interrupted my drinking time. Here Scott Sorry. We'll get drunk. Listen you would you make your kids for lunch in our house and we do a lot of we do. A lot of The hotdogs fruit. there's smoothies and then if you know if you do the fruit and the hotdogs and the and the smoothies then maybe you could get some kind of a. Dorito chip Kinda thing. Ooh But but then but then you then Charlie. That that got like an adult. He's capable of getting like these stair steppers and he'll get to the top shelf and you go where the Doritos will you find the bag and then you find him and find little orange fingerprints all everything because that little bastard get the Dorito hold back like he would eat as as if he were as high as the Beastie boys were when they were our guest on Monday. Now that's a segue kids. That's a smooth segue because I am as big a fan of the beastie boys as you'll find although there like a comp- is there's this weird competition with would beastie boy fans like everybody's so passionate Amir Thompson Aka quest loved from The roots who's on Jimmy Fallon. They did an interview and he said and he's right they only have. They don't have casual fans 'cause they don't like I think people that are fans there's hardcore and I am like hardcore beastie boy fan like Doris. The source was the name of a fantasy football team of mind. That's from one of their songs. We WE WANNA title Steve. No big deal In College I get to some more. I'll get to some of the specifics of just how specific Just how kind of deep seeded the love of the beastie boys is. They have this new documentary. That is out. It is called Beastie boys story. Spike Jones direct I was able to see a copy of it comes out on the twenty fourth on apple plus. And if you're a fan you're gonNA love it if you read the Beastie Boys Book which is excellent. You should again. If you're a fan you probably already have been a lot of the details from matter. Kinda told in this live documentary on stage out of war vets. Mike Diamond at rock. Mike D. From the Beastie Boys. Anyway we get to talk to him on Monday. And I'm like I am site 'cause I've been like as a bad waiting forever for a chance to talk to them and we're doing this thing on the phones because that's where we are and as I'm talking to Adam we're waiting for Mike and and he points out Steve. It's four twenty and I say to myself. These are two very enthusiastic consumers of cannabis and it is and it's four twenty and so I immediately think in my head. So how are we going to do here? How's this going to go and what you're about to hear is about five minutes and I don't know thirty seconds of fairly not. Not guber heavily edited but we had to kind of take out some of the places where we lost. Our Way has one of my one of my dear friends. Dr Calvin Chicago your workouts Tattoo again. What does he have? He has a cow with an athletic because his name's couch Cao Cao I P one. The fantasy football league that were in the doors the source one last year and so he sends his shirtless pictures every day with the belt he made for himself. He made a wrestling belt He's an incredible shape and yeah he's just he's this Jack Guy with a wrestling belt. So He sends his pictures every day. Anyway cavs like I thought it was really good still here. You take a listen you tell you. Tell me how how did our interview? The beastie boys turn out it is a pleasure to be joined by Mike. Diamond Adam Horovitz. Mike and AD. Rock the Beastie boys and fell as the The DOC is spectacular as I just said Flatbush in Brooklyn and King's theatre and how many shows were shot in order to make this film in totality not shot out the Brooklyn so I think maybe four or five shows in total but there is from night tonight so that Spike Jonze director had a bunch of work with Adam considering that you guys have lived professionally on stage performing. This isn't a stretch because you're performing but it's it's completely different because it's it's the story of your life and so I wonder how you how you kind of describe the difference of that being on stage telling your story in that form. Well the being on stage part is is is the easy part. Sure so we wrote a script for this show and even though the like the your own stories that you know you've told a million times like now we had to remember what we're supposed to stay and Mike and I aren't I'M NOT GONNA say that we're dumb you know remembering things and and being on point isn't like our strong point like our weaknesses are. I don't know what the thing is. It's four twenty you guys so you know. I'm a little understood understood but your mind is Ryan. That's fine. We knew the day that we just serendipitous Mike. When you when you talk about what made you guys these massive stores. Obviously it's it's the eighties licensed ill and this and that and the other and you guys are very honest about the fact that it was a gimmick in the by the end of it. You're just so done with it. It's rare that that artists get a chance to reinvent and then come out on the other side and become what you all become what what allowed that to happen to you. Think is having. I thought this is coming from where came from came from this world in New York City where there was all this exciting music happening around all the time all his art be so we just felt like of course we just keep making stuff. We didn't see the impossibility of making that stuff. We only saw it as possible. And so it all kind of blew up but then it made us realize that what we did. How was the relationship between the US and that that was a primary thing we just needed to get back to that back to making what what what we'd made and Adam. Y'All y'all is such a massive part of that Ataman. You guys wrote the book at the time you said it was. It was too hard to talk about at that time. His passing but in the end the documentary. You talk about the last Gig and you sit down and it's really really moving. How did you? How were you able to talk about it in that room in that space? Then you know what actually did is being able to look over at Mike. You know. We've been best friends. You know the tightest of friends for almost forty years now. We're really fortunate to be friends first in a band second and so we just tried to. You know anything that we're interested in is what we tried. And we got the support of each other and that's a really nice in rare thing to get one of the things you guys talk about is is this question. What would y'all do the possibility of music atom from Youtube from Adam from beyond I mean that's a pretty intoxicating possibility I how much we invest in that. Hope I mean. Don't don't don't hope that it's going to be very good. But you know something we'll do stumping. We have hours and hours and hours of music that we never put out and so mike and I going to go through that and find something it might be. It might be in the garage Adam behind you somewhere could be somewhere and you're happy place in that comfort zone big machine. I always want to give. I always want give guests that like I welcome in here because I'm such fans of there's an opportunity to talk sports Adam. You said you want me to leave the knicks out of it but you do have the hat on any any thoughts any optimism as it relates to the hometown squad. I hear that Lebron is thinking about going to New York. When the season opens up is it is four twenty. I realized I you. I don't know how good stuff you got to be really really good if Lebron's come into New York as all the crazy thing is Rodman is coming after school. I'm going to say out of Iraq in New York on yourself wearing that I had to represent though in some sort of someone has to wear New York Knicks at all right. That's quarter magic. Television will beep it out. I I'm sincere telling you guys that like so many your fans. I have a passion borderline unreasonable. And so the opportunity to chat with you guys is something. I greatly appreciate the documentaries fantastic April twenty four. Check it out on apple plus like Adam continues health. Stay safe and be well all right onto thank you so much. Thank you Steve. When we reached the portion of the interview when Lebron James was going to sign with the Knicks out of the return and Rodman was coming out of retirement. I figured okay so now we know how high is Ad Rock. He's that high and I had a list of things like so many specific questions that I had hoped to get to as an example. If you're a beastie boys fan in the documentary you will hear about the The Madeline What's her name? Madelynn grows Hof Gross. Hof I think's her name anyway. They told the stories of when they lived in Hollywood. If you remember the Paul's Boutique Album where they did all these different videos in like vintage clothing. Will they broke down the door? of of this You know I shouldn't tell this actually told the stories in the book But the because you're wearing women's clothes and what I wanted to know what happens to the close after you wear them like do you. Hugh just dry clean them and put him back like I dunno what one does after they've raided the vintage closet in the Hollywood hills house. They're staying in. I wanted to know the story behind five piece chicken dinner. That is they Banjo Song. That's twenty three seconds. That for an entire semester of my life in school was my answering machine message back in the day kids we had actual phone machines tape beep way put them by beep leave a message and it was twenty three seconds of Banjo pick and you had to sit through and finally my mom's like could we not have the Banjo like I'd be land their sleep because it was one and I wasn't awake yet. Do not have the Banjo music but we just had it for a whole semester and I wanted to know the story behind that I wanted to know about the trouble funk drum loop that they used in this one of the songs that changed everything by way trouble funk onboard Steve. They'RE DOING OUR MUSIC. We moved to. Dc. That's exciting But I didn't get a lot of these questions because I guess like I. I'm pro cannabis too because as I've always said I've like I've seen drug people sucker punch people. I've never seen a high person sucker punch anybody very peaceful happy people but focus many times with your high friends is hard to kind of achieve right. Yeah Yeah I never been a big big guy of the cannabis so I I just can't get into that mindset and I was really really upset and mad when as soon as I saw that was going to star in it was just. It went how I thought it was going to go and I saw communist through as we do it but you know what I always say. Next time we got them nickname well. Well here's the thing it's it's four twenty late. Let me make one thing clear I was. I wasn't mad. I just was bummed because I've yes I I. I'm such a fan that I mean like I watched the Doc. I had a list of stuff that I thought would really be fun just selfishly to learn about and they all mean nothing. They don't know me the time to come on which they were kind enough to share. It just happened to be four twenty and so as a note to self for any future Interviews did I'M GONNA do if it's on or around that date and you know that you're talking about a very sort of pro cannabis consumer maybe you. Maybe you try to get Tuesday. The twenty-first maybe the play but I I'll say this just in closing on that thought If you're again if you're a fan of the beastie boys The beastie boys story Spike Jones directed documentary You'll love it. It's literally like you'll you`ll. You'll definitely laugh. The stories will fly by in the blink of an Eye. It gets emotional. Obviously the passing about him. Y'All MCA when they talk about Yok. It's it's heavy But it's it's awesome. It's great and speaking of Docs leave the last dance. People love it I think you said to me. Buckle up You get a little advance. Look at what's coming for the weekend and Buckle up why it's it I'll say this and I'm not trying to make people watch. I'm not doing anything because I can't come to your house because I'm Corentin. What I will say is away. They're watching they're watching already. I mean it was a billion people watch so you don't have to convince them you're not going to have to bend their arm. But but so the cell is what I just love because it just continues to get better. Three and four are better than one into the way they're packaged. The directing and it is just awesome. I I know people were talking about the time line. And what time is this. What time is that? What you gotta remember. There's going to be flashbacks to the titles. But we're not we're not done all the Pistons before Rodman came into team is the Rodman episode. Carmen Electra parents which is just fantastic about talking about go ahead. Magnificent Magnificent Love Armand Electra. And she's tremendous. She share story tally of of Rodman in Vegas partying with them is just awesome. And it's just you know all the the no shaken hands is on their Doug Collins just gets into the mix the transition Phil and I'll tell you what he's he's probably the guy that I've gotten to appreciate the most out of anybody after watching this and just because of the way he treated players I think four is episode on. Fill the footage. He goes to Puerto Rico coach. It is a bloodbath. He's got a golf shirt from like seventy two and gene don with Substan- Smith's and he's out there in a brawl breaks out and he's in the middle of it. It's just it's amazing Store in his path but how good he was with players in giving anymore way. I just he. I've came to fruition like how he did it and you know everybody all. We always had the best players he did. He did vote. There's a way of making it all work and he's yours held. He's sure as hell did that. I just I said this sportscenter the other night like for me the The most interesting part having grown up with it. I feel really lucky. In retrospect that Maryland was then in the ACC the three years he was in Chapel Hill. You got to see him twice a year I I I was at the game where he did that. Rock the cradle the first time like so it felt like like for a lot of people that even even a of my era. You didn't have maybe as early or as close a seat as we were really lucky to get being in the ACC at the time. Of course now. A big ten. Scotty you know where my allegiance lies. No doubt shout out to shout out to the corn people But for the younger younger set to get a chance to wash we had George biddle onto titan from the niners next week and before we started talking on air. He's like man at Jordan. He's like he's just incredible like just his mindset. And here's a professional athlete. Who is it that kind of at the top of the food shaper his position? I'm not saying he's the Michael Jordan tight. We've had a hell of a start and you know he's a pro athlete and he just was blown away by by the mindset of Jordan and I. I think that'll be the most interesting part of this is how people for whom Jordan is just this kind of ghost this this story. They've heard about them to to see the story I I'm that'll be the most fun part for me as I said for for us. It's not an introduction. It's a reminder and so I think I think that's I think the appetite for it is remarkable and like I think cowherd said this on his show earlier this week like the idea that the NBA's never replaced Jordan and it's true and like golf will never replace tiger. You can have you. Can Be thirty superstars young talented guys. No one's ever replace tiger. Because he was just he's different for so many different reasons. Jordan is still that guy that you know Look Wide Lebron twenty three right like because because Jordan Ward. And if that's your guy and I know there are Lebron guys out there and girls great I get it but I understand why he wears that number. He wears it because he's trying to be that he's trying to be like Mike And that's fascinating to me to have that kind of juice like think about this. Steve a guy that played in the eighties nineties. The logo of him is still like as coveted a a clothing line in the sports space as anything think about that. It's it's a couple of things I grew up. I was born in seventy seven. I grew up. You know with Jordan. I I couldn't. I never rooted for Michael Jordan in one basketball game. I was dominating fan. I swear to God. I'm watching these games and I'm watching. The I mean it's over you know. His whatever years with the Bulls? I never rooted for him but I watched every single game. I remember just thinking in my head as a as a kid I think it was. I think after they beat the Lakers and they beat the blazers. Oh Yeah Ninety three with Barclay I get. I'm I'm sitting there and everybody wanted Barclay to win. He was MVP. Obviously we know why we love Barclay and you know we're friends with him now and just kept saying to myself. God what was I? I must have been fifteen right around there. And I'm like there's no way. The Suns could beat the Bulls enjoyed it four times like it was just ingrained in my head that I rooted for every. T- you name that the Bulls played in the playoffs back today. I rooted for that team and they never no one ever obviously beat them four times and you could say you know ninety five whatever with the magic. That didn't count. That was fake but I will. I will say that he said something in the dock that absolutely just struck a nerve with me and it just had to do a my upbringing. I had talks about his older brothers. I had an older brother and my dad passed when I was in high school and got to see my my brother finished college in Jordan. Michael Just talked about how? When he played his brothers he fought and clawed and just did anything for his dad's attention and that's exactly the same way I grew up identical. That's all I cared about and it just it was amazing and then you see him in the locker room after he wins at first title with the Lakers. And I just I never got the chance because my dad passed when I was a junior in high school. But like that stuff just struck a nerve on me like grown up and just just at thing in the world. There's no other athlete. I respect more than Michael Jordan. I just wasn't a fan. I rooted for Dominique. And that was my guy but just like you knew he was a killer mentally. You knew it you knew it. You knew it and just see it and now hear him talk about it. We're just wait to hear what he uses as motivation. It's incredible stuffy comes up with what story. That's an awesome story. I man that's very cool. Stanford St I never knew that Released not to that degree so I'm learning something here on this podcast. That's been official we're thankful to have the the dock to talk about 'cause everyone's starved for anything and we're thankful that we've got the draft so depending on when people were listening to this and just so people know. Were taping this Mid Week before the draft happens Yeah so if it's dated by the time you listen you will know who gets. Who goes where this or that. I just wanted to have a bit of a conversation about about one sought. And that's this borough job rose go number one right and I'm a massive fan of that guy. I love how confident he is really cool stories about when he was a high school kid in Ohio like he was always this confident. He was always cocksure. Guide that just knew he was he was the but he he he stays in state goes to Ohio state. They have this heated back and forth as the competition to see who could be the starter and he doesn't win. Haskins does right and so we transfers and like there's some fascinating back stories about where he almost went and fate like fate led this guy by the hand to Lsu. He could have stayed at home and gone. You could have gone like stayed in states like Cincinnati like there was a bunch of different places you could have gone but he goes to lsu place that for years. Right Steve's like the thing that held them back was was obviously their offense they were not a really progressive minded kind of group. Then you get 'em singer and you get Brady who comes over from the states and this guy goes from. In Todd mcshay estimation a fourth or fifth round. Pick to the number one pick. Because he has the year he had going. This is long winded. But I I'm getting to is this. Do you have any doubts reservations? He's the guy he he put on tape this year. You have any reservations that that that's not who he is I don't know how to say this. Because I think the world of him what he's done and I said out of podcast pollica before he even took a snap at Lsu that he could be a hero if he had success. Lsu and you see what he did Here's my here's my issue and it pertains to to also this is the biggest question. I have with these guys because they are to burrow into are probably two of my favorite quarterbacks. I've watched since probably Andrew Luck in college football. I honestly worry this is just me. I'm not doubting their talents. Doubting what the what their mindset is. I am worried that they were throwing two elite talent at the college level. Look at the receivers that those guys were throwing too and I know people were talking about to is accuracy. And I know they're talking about burrows deep ball but just then mounted times that. Lsu Walk to the line of scrimmage and say all right we got a mismatch there there there there are. I'm I'm just GonNa pick one flip a coin in my head and go and to. It is even more insane to me at the talent that Alabama had it receiver. So that's still one. Worry I have. I have a worry about Isaiah Simmons to we could get to that a little bit later but I'm not doubting him. I just worry about how the immediacy that fans need now and felt NFL fan. That doesn't watch college. Football is like oh I thought this guy was accurate that this guy was better. It takes time man it takes time and he's not going to have those advantages on the outside. You know with the bengals. So I'm not I'm not downing. He's GonNa get to that to that to the top of the mountain but I just think it might take a little time and I know people can't wait right now the that's that's essentially what I'm saying it because like if you're like you you watch I in next year resuming slash hoping. There's next year in college football whether it's fields at Ohio State Lords Clemson. You know people talk about guys that just it's everything jumps off the screen. You see the arm. Tell and all the rest for himself. Look I don't have a hand cannon. You know he's got enough. He's got enough arms talent but he's not like that's not what jumps off the page. He's an intangible guy. He's a confidence guy. He's a he's an on time guy inaccurate all the things like and again. I love the attitude. I love what he did this year. How can you not it was historic but to your point like just like you had to had rugs and judy like he had to pay for stroke. Guys just some. That's just some of the talented. He's looking at all the is and it's chasing Jefferson and more you could keep going and and Hilar- behind of like it's there's just so much talent on the field so what I'm saying when it comes to borough is if if you're that guy would you. Which would we have seen something that looked like before this year? And you can come back and argue with me or and say well X Y and Z player. You know like trubisky. Look what what did he? How many games did even start before he before he got you know selected as high as he did by the bears but then obviously in. Chicago people are going to be tricky comparison. You WanNa make will. That's I'm not saying boroughs trubisky. I'm just saying when you have one year that tape we're mcshea had a fourth or fifth rounder. Now you're going number one. I'm asking if the truth about what you are in at the NFL level might be somewhere in the middle and by the way that might be fine right you might be no doubt you might be just fine start in the NFL. So I think you're saying the same thing here. This isn't me trying to wade some hot shake flag until you. I don't think he can do it at the next level. That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking if who he is is who showed you this year with an elite team with an offense that was cooking with grease as hot as it gets I you know. That's that's my only question and concerned and I think the two thing is the health and it's also the elite talent and you know the these are. These are the kind of questions that are better to be asking. You Know Kenny do it. I don't I don't think it's GonNa do it. I just WanNa know what what's IT GONNA look like Yeah the the the bigger picture I have is like I. Here's what we Ford are supposedly going to go in the first round quarterbacks you know the other two guys. I'm I'm not I'm not and I think it's her whatever Herbert from Oregon and love from Utah State. Yeah like I think it's traditionally I was reading something about the core. First Round quarterback it's fifty fifty whether good career or you know not living up to the hyper bust. So right there there's four guys. Two of them are not going to be good. Like you could just you could. You could say that with the sample size that we've had That that feels real so I take it a step further. I'd say 'cause 'cause maths what you Amir great at In the law can years in the last ten years. There have been thirty quarterbacks taken in the first round right thirty and ten years. Only eleven of those quarterbacks have winning records so just slightly more than a third have winning records in a decade. Now who takes you? Well probably not a good team. Well Obviously Cincinnati Admin a great team. That's borough is going to land so I mean so he could be really good and maybe they're not so I look this position and it's fascinating to me. You played the sport. I I did not. It blows my mind. The amount of time and energy and effort is put forth to try to figure out that position and how many times they get it wrong. Russillo did a big podcast over on the ringer about about it and a real specific stuff about kind of the ones that worked was that didn't and it just. It's Mind Boggling. Like you could argue. There's not a greater waste of money and time but not anything that has such a poor return on investment than trying to figure out the quarterback position in the NFL. Couldn't agree more questions for me. I do do you want those I do i. Do you have anything else? What all right. How about this who? Who are you rooting for in the draft? Like who do you do? You WanNa see go to a good spot and succeed because he just loved what he did in College. And let's say you you don't think he get he didn't get the shiny was supposed to shoot a gun I mean it's it's if you read if you read the stories about About Giovane Kello- from South Carolina. And what to do went through You know homelessness just like think about growing up in a circumstance like that where you don't know like like you think about like we started this joking right about about the K. About the chaos in our homes. But you know what our kids our kids have. They might not have toilet paper their dad by telling your shower instead of life in there but you know what our kids have or kids. That's they got a mom and dad in the House that they know love them and when children knows if they are in a safe place where their loved then that gives them an opportunity to to grow and be whatever. They're going to be when you hear what what he had to go through. And it's not that he didn't have love in his life but he didn't he didn't have security or stability and now he's got a daughter of his own and when when we had him on and he didn't have shirt which was great. I'm like I'm not telling you put a shirt on and like I damn sure not the one. That's going to govern what he gets to wear. But when I asked him about his little girl that the smile on his face like this is an enormous mad. And you see him because he's talking about his baby girl. I want that guy to get his. And he's GonNa and he's GonNa play furious when he gets to the League and somebody is going to get a guy that I think can be disruptive at the point of attack. Is Anybody coming out this year? So that's dude. I'm rooting for Devante. Lot South Carolina you got. I got I actually thinking you've got two guys. I think that are that are sure bets to be good pros and those are those are those are the two Iowa guys were is the offensive tackle and then Espinosa is the D. Lineman. I think those guys are solid as you could get worse. Is the first true freshman ever to start for Kirk parents at Iowa? That's saying something. That's that's a program where they feed off a red shirt and guys and you know recruiting there state and not being able to recruit you know far outside the area where they're deal. They develop guys they have a great program established there but for him to to be. That guy is really stands out. I remember reading about him as a freshman. This kid is circle for me at the next level and I just think Espinosa is as good as solid as you need. He's he's not he's not gonNA. There's no wow factor. But he's going to get to the quarterback and I think that's huge at that at the next level and I just think he's Gonna. I think somebody's GonNa take him higher than that. He's gone in growing in these mocked. Yeah the mocks. Go all right. Couple GUYS FROM SAN for Steve. Right Scott on the play. The play that thing played the thing. Because you don't have to answer that question. I'll answer the question. Scott Scott on the spied brought to you by draftkings giving new users a free shot at over one million dollars in prizes. Download the draft kings enter code s? Vp At sign up eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. All Right Ready Vetter bath better basketball player all time. Scottie Pippen Dwayne Wade got pippen. Wow why I feel like I feel like his impact Impact was Oh. How do I say it? Because it's not I'm not. I'm not minimizing weight Like the impact of both ends was was maybe greater. Okay all right. It's like man he was he was he was just hard to deal with. I mean look wage. Great wage dance. Come at me. He was a much anywhere in great. I'm probably just be in the old guy in the barbershop. Knekna Foyer Magnon or New York Strip filet magnon all day. Every day is the best choices beef eat. Don't make it harder than it has to be like filet. Mignon is like the the chargers retro uniforms. Don't make it hard take the easiest thing. What's the best thing we've got powder blue and yellow where it what's the best steak on the menu fillet next? But they're small. Get the big one get. Yeah but it's it's never big enough. Have you ever ordered to flaming Yazd at a restaurant? I have not but I have worked well. Marble Boat interim by and that kind of gives you the best of both worlds. You get the real nice fatty marbled fillet and then you get a little bit of the Strip and then you get. The Bone Rotas the dog. That's the play that wasn't that wasn't on the question of bone in rib. I wasn't on. The question was that it was not. It was not Possible dinner tonight. A bucket of chicken Popeye's or KFC I you know what? Kfc's one of those things that it's this is my loyalty to my Guy Bucci Shutout Crashes Boot Television John Gucci Grass Aka. They know who we made. 'cause Bucci does the bucket of chicken challenge and like I don't eat much fast food but like I- KFC and they have like the pieces of KFC. Like I don't know what the piece of chicken it is like. I look at it not A. It's not like it's not a sigh. What is but I'll be damned if it isn't delicious like okay So I can't I mean also I feel like you bring in you bring in. Popeye's more though I feel like it's Popeye's I I get that more so KFC right now. I gotTa Hanker for the eleven herbs and spices. Okay Travis has just finished his boons far bottle as question is first of all Stack Daniels Second of all how. How're you doing on EMINEM's there Scott? Well I bought. What is allegedly of family size bag? So is this have to do with the yogurt because we try to get the EMINEM yogurt but we can't yes because I can. I can save you I can save you. I know where they have at Eminem. But it's it's at Sam's Club. I have a membership there. I saw at the other week and they had plenty of it and I thought of you. Did you buy any to tell me you had it or did you just see it and think about what that's the? That's why we're checking because I have a Sam's Club Ron coming up next couple of days. I'm trying to see where you're at. I think after today the Van Pelt family might be leaving They might just pack up and start driving like the road so I don't. Let's do this. Let's circle back the next time we do this. And if they haven't abandoned me then by all means I'll take a bulk of that but but when y when I bought the family size. I'm an bag and this is a little chicote for you. Folks at home you can buy any of those yogurts that just have the Plain Yogurt and put eminem in and then the kids don't care they're like boom Eminem Yoga so the problem is dad kind of fishes in the family size like every time I walk by the bag so it's should last a while but I mean at the moment it's it's down kind of in the bottom where I'm fumbling at the you've got to reach the both sides of the bag to get enough for a handful so this is this is the part to question when we get the next week. We'll figure out the answer all right that it. I think. That's IT I before we get out of here a word from ziprecruiter right now. We cannot be overwhelmed. We have to work. Keep our loved one safe and protect our communities. We have to work to stay strong. Stay connected stay focused. 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Sea Fever, Beastie Boys Story, Abe, & Scoob!

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Sea Fever, Beastie Boys Story, Abe, & Scoob!

"Let me say. Let me say clearly. Avoid Corona virus. Listen TO PODCASTS SPECIFICALLY TRAILER JUNKIES. Podcast did cast. Fm CAST up there. That's your advertised. Cut it all together and we just got it out. Make it like a little bit. He could do. And it'll say like you know. Avoid current virus listening to podcast. I'm big cast. Fm Boom. We just got it there it is. There's the drop in a world where you only have trailers and posters to judge a movie. Jim and Ted strikeout to answer the age old question. Will you see it? Hello Ted it's episode one zero nine right before one ten and we have ladies with US tonight. So what do you say about that impromptu impromptu earlier today and gave us the trailers for this evening slacking on my producer obligations for the show will and functions so often behind the scenes that I often ask myself. Why am I talking to you so at least I got your wife on this week and I'm just here well. I was going to say that your wife got my wife on so I guess it's the four husband Wife Team. Kinda duos quadruple. What it's according to show the court speaking of that so we have bad beer virus going around I would if it was if it was corona extra gold. I would never catch it. I've never had a beer in my life. Not GonNa lie was so you you have no immunities. Yeah School suspended. All the closings going on. I still have to work. All the kids are off. I don't know what do you guys make. I mean I hear your kids are out of school. How Disneyland's closed? I mean the whole the whole place. You can't spell pandemic without panic. I all I know. Is that Audrey came to the car to this this afternoon in Tears. She wasn't going to your friends for two weeks. Oh no so. Your schools are closed for two weeks. We don't know yet so minimum. They're going to reassess in two weeks. Yeah that's what we're doing and I said. Do you create some vacation. No Duke Quiet Christmas break. No do you cry spring break. I said here's a novel concept you can actually turn your phone into a device where you can hear people's voices on the other side like they did in the old days hence pick up the phone and call someone the funny thing about it though so the boys call grandma and grandma calls the boys and they sit there and they can't figure out facetime and I said well why not. Just talk on the phone like civilized people do and my grandmother my grandmother. My mother is like seventy four. Whatever she is and it's like the boys in her can't go without facetime so they gotta sit there and like navigate like why the video won't it's like just talk on the phone like people did for like a century. Exactly what this lady can't talk on the phone because she's to spoil the kids. I wish I was there to see this so aggravating but hey before we get any further. I know we have a drinker tonight. And then three beer drinkers and mean clerk. They have one each. That's the same. And what are you have Ted? Go First Okay so. I have a beer to challenge last week. Spear weighed challenged minor. Challenge Yours. Challenge your last week. We're you had You beat us. They because we're percent so I went to Handy Marquette and and said you better stock up in case. We can't leave the house so I bought. That's what I said everybody's getting your toilet paper. You make a run on handy market. We're all good. That's right. He went to handy market and Bob Bunch beer at my budget beer. I bought six singles southern people. That's the bunch to others not so much. Well they're seventeen percent. I think it's a bunch. This is like a case definitely a six pack in itself. You said it was like instead of like what did I spend like. Thirty eight bucks. You spent like sixth. I spent five ninety nine so six thirty six and change for with tax. So here let me crack this up and see how alcohol it is. I'm curious like how easy it is. And what's the what's the style hooks? Beautiful owned cars like black. Look at it. Oh It's beautiful. Oh Nice. It looks rich and creamy. That's coming out and Coombe all right. That's a little gross. It is so the style style to your here. Imperial Stout with milk sugars. Honey Vanilla and cacao. I'll give you. I'll give you weeks lag. Yeah okay so this week. We have a Sierra Nevada limited edition fortieth anniversary. I didn't the started in nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty s forty years ago like man feels like I feel so old but this is the what is it. It's a happy anniversary Ale. Hey happy anniversary. Nice Shoe Label. What is it a six percent? And I don't know let's see how this is clarice. Open up ten. Give while I'm poor and give us some tasting. Now what does it seventeen percenter of seventeen percenter? It's called nightmare nightmare. It is beautifully balanced weight. It's called nightmare. Oh my goodness yeah nightmare nightmare. So what do you mean beautifully balanced like you? Don't taste the booze in it. Yeah the boozer very well hidden chocolate. Like you said there's CA cow. It is like a beautiful dark chocolate. Oh my God. You're going to get in trouble with them. Definitely in trouble. Wait I said tomorrow. Morning is the first time in a long time. We don't have to wake up and be somewhere so he can drink that and we can all sleep in. You know I love when you don't have to be somewhere but you know what you're always some thanks Winnie the Pooh Winnie. The Pooh is that our children can get their own breakfast now. You're still need your assistance very much. Can't do's and won't dues or two very different things. So how was your week this week? I mean like I said ours is pretty much our typical training. Like I've been talking and bad beer viruses keeping kids out of school now keeping my my Facility is going to be going on lockdown on Monday. No visitors whatsoever be locked. Inner lock down locked in no visitors and we get to be funneled through one door setting. Stan like I said man. You can't spell pandemic without panic. So how was your guys week? Oh and before we do that and has been drinking per Seco- While I was getting my. Oh Yeah I did. I did mention that you're right but she didn't give her tasting go for it and night airy and Chris the way I like it okay and and I got a six pack of these single tall boys and got a six pack of okay so while we're speaking of beer viruses. I made a run to the big name. Grocery store and I said Oh. We should get some flour and baking goods in case every wants to make some birthday bread. Which one what are you? Just use the store name. Ralph's Okay and and I thought to myself. Oh Jimmy Clark gave these beautiful ingredients for bread. Let me go and buy some bread ingredients so thankfully I always pack my things as I want to purchase them in my bag because it would have looked very haphazard and crazy and then while I'm standing in this mega longline in Ralph's. There's a table with things on sale and me the Booze Hound that I am my is caught by all the booze that's on sale and I'm like ooh look. I could sling together as six pack of whatever and get an extra twenty percent off so people are watching me. Just load booze into my cars. Are you black grass? And I'm like Oh yeah. My husband was here last night but he forgot the really important things so I came home with the six. Pack of percent go brilliant teacher. I work with wound up on the news last night. The local news channel was at a local grocery store. And so she's in the back of the line you know. They put your groceries onto the conveyor belt. And they catch your like putting up whatever food and everything and they're talking about how toilet papers out of stock or something and I told her. I said you know you completely missed it. You should have just been loading bottles of whiskey on the conveyor belt because that's what people need to see none of this toilet paper. It's gotta be whiskey all right so all this corona virus talk. Let's get into see fever. Exactly right. Question is let's just jump right to the middle of the trailer when that thing comes out of the water. What's coming out of the water in the shower? -cause all you see are draw blood droplets on the guys back. You're in my notes. No I'm just saying I'm just saying let's just judge the chase she says. Oh it's in the water it's in the pipes everyone's going to be infected with what it a squid they're gonNA be infected with. Can I just say my question was is a blood dripping on him or is the blood coming out of him. See either way. Where's that blood coming from the win? Dude I think the squid makes them into a squid the squid turn them into squids. Exactly they become what it is and then they're the ones well. It's just one more reason why I don't go in the water. I'm saying like I'm not a water guy. You don't do water. You don't do scary movies. You don't put glass in your shows. What are the what do you do Jimmy? But does this give you like an eight twenty four trailer vibe? It does. It's something to me it. Feet from eight hundred thousand four or just General Jenner. In general. It's missing like Oh God I'm GonNa get myself in trouble if we know the trailer cutter. It's missing a level of sophistication sophistication. Don't you think if I know the trailer all my guy we're done for never coming on her show again? Let's put a disclaimer. I picked this challenge so Any fault lines with me not with Ted and Jim. The official trailer. Not all trailers are good and you got to reveal whether good better indifferent But yeah so I felt like this is very simple and I kept it in there because of the timeliness it felt like an outbreak kind of movie but we need. Dustin Hoffman contagion. Yes that Dude Gwyneth. Paltrow is he patient zero. The squid is patients their patient one. He's the sore. So can I. Can I just say something because outbreak is getting so much play right now? I M just personally offended by it. You know before meet you. There was a boys club that was known as producers in Hollywood and Lynda obst was a great female producer that produced flashdance but she also produced a movie called Hot Zone and hot zone was was screwing up. And it had its cast lined up and everybody was signed up to create this movie off of this book called Hot Zone. And the producers of outbreak decided that they wanted to that same movie. And you know there's a lot of times where multiple movies come up with the same topic at the same time like Dante's peak and volcano came out at the same time instead of their hat. They mothballed bald her movie. They told the actors that if they acted in her movie. They wouldn't act in Hollywood again. So it was like this this weird Harvey Weinstein kind of vibe. Where they're throwing it out there and say that if you work in her movie you'll be blackballed from Hollywood. And she wrote a whole book about this called Hello he lied about a story. This awful awful treatment of a female producer in Hollywood. So outbreak is getting tons of press right now but ever to L. I could do is think about the movie that was never made. That's so the movie that was never made. Is it still? So you're you're saying it's still mothballed. Yeah no the she had she had contracts with a you know a three or four top a-list actors and they all just came up with other reasons that they couldn't do it. Oh Wow so. It's a great book. First Books I read when I moved to California to question I have about seaver. So you're saying it's missing something it's missing it's missing something it's missing. A level of sophistication is missing a complication or for that extra piece. It's like the beers that we drink all right. I'm all ears. I'm listening if you drink a logger or corona. I was at the baby shower. I ordered a sculptor and sculpture. And they brought me like a bud. Light she said here's your scope and and I took one sip of that thing and I was like. This is not a sculptor she goes. That's what it is and I said No. It's a bud light. Bud Light as like sculptured I look at it. You know the difference. So this is the bud light of trailers to me. Yeah I have to agree. I mean and then when that things coming out of the wall and it's like it's almost like a vagina looking at you. Don't make much more family friendly. Yeah it's one of those things where you're just like they're like what is that and I'm like I don't know maybe it's vaginal fingering scores. She squishy. Let's get off this trailer before we get in trouble. This is a family show all right. So we'RE GONNA do the EBB and flow tonight so see fever. May I GET CORONA VIRUS LINCOLN? Not He I get. It's funny but I don't think I agree with you. It's missing something. It tries to play the twenty four vibe. I think with like the music the suspense the Irish accent woman. Who's the doctor? You know? Whatever that is I don't know but but let's get into a super cool idea for a documentary. Oh yeah which is beastie boys story. This is so good. D To my dismay. Is it super cool. Though in my opinion anyway is it super cool that they do a documentary. Or shall I say a rock you mentoring were they walk out on stage and it's like a live as it happens documentary stand up and it's directed by Mike Turns Spike Spike Jonze? Good beer already already getting nowhere. He Jank per second with me early. There you go. And he said L. I have to stop drinking with you. So either you or both of you fans of rock band or like rock band rap artists documentaries. I am a big beastie boys fan because when I moved back from Europe to America The first song that I ever heard from beastie boys was brass. Monkey that funky monkey junkie saying we might have to pay. I just gave the title of the of course okay anyway so when that trailer dropped on my phone today and I sent it. It was like ooh yeah. Let's watch that because that would be my connection to the trailer is is what I like about. Rock band documentaries so like I love the twisted sister one that I saw net flicks right and the thing about rock band documentaries is that they create this like persona while they're doing there. I don't know twisted sister stuff as an example that these guys are just like hooligans or something and the Beastie boys are just like these like knuckle headed like from the streets of Brooklyn. Whatever but the thing that I come away with. Most importantly I think is that entertainers and more specifically in in this case with. I mean I'm not talking about actors and stuff but just with bands and so on is even if you look at Prince and you look at all these entertainers I mean. They're like highly intelligent. I mean they're brilliant marketers brilliant brilliant business acumen and they have like an amazing level of intelligence that gets them to rise to the level of just like world domination in their particular realm of entertainment. I mean it's incredible and I think that was what the what the trailer hooked me with. The most the way that they talked about their lack of rap talent and yet their desire to succeed overcame that right when he says rappers hold a piece of paper while they're wrapping. Yeah and its desire. But it's also think they've they realize how off they were and they adjusted and they worked it and they built it and they just created this thing. They problem solved in a way to get themselves like they said I mean they're on stage with Madonna. And you know And all these people I mean it's incredible in real time. They adjusted in real time for sure but I love how in the trailer they put Adam Yoke Front and center of how the trailer is. It revolves around him for the other. Two guys to save it wasn't for him. None of us would be here talking about him. Who's not here? He was the glue. He was the inspiration that lyric writer for zones. I don't think so. I think they shared it. What's awesome too is I MACs and Apple. Plus they're going to be on stage with. I know it's I to me. That's a little overkill. You think so I think so. I WanNa see Ted in the springy shoes. Those awesome Sh- all I can think of put those on. I would break my neck so you guys have apple TV. Plus or as I call it like a+ you're gonNA watch the Beastie boys story are we going to watch it? Yes we most likely will watch it separately because apple. Tv Why separately because it's on Apple TV and our schedules don't align but we can watch apple TV in the bedroom now on the forty nine incher. Yeah did you see my face just now? You're listening audience. Don't get to see my face. One nine o'clock at night when you guys are at home kids go to bed. Why how do you guys not have time aligned? How do we not have time align well because some days Jimmy like the other day for our children? I drove seven zero seventy miles in Los Angeles trauma for our children and when I got out I was beat. And you know that seventy miles in Los Angeles does not trip five hours exactly four hours five hours and so that's why sometimes our time don't alive because he'll come home and be like? Hey let's do this and I'm like no or other days. He'll home and be like dude. It was emotionally taxing day in the office. And I'm like look I major favorite in A. Let's lake drink wine and watch movies. And he's like ready to pass out. So that's how we don't malign. Yeah I Gotcha I gotcha you know living in La first world problems. So from the Beastie boys to Abrahim he I guess Adam Yolk you know. He's Jewish. Abe is like half Jewish so I take a little bit. Romeo and Juliet from this Kenai fist-bump Elbow bump you tell you whatever the new correct non handshake is. I like so our social distancing. You're saying we're on skype. So we're social distanced social distance. But I like that. You made the connection that I made in the trailers the Romeo and Juliet now the Jewish I take him and I was GonNa say wow I really hit on something there. So what's up? What's the connection? Well that Abrahim Abe as he likes to call himself is partially Jewish. But the Beastie Boys. They're all Jewish. Oh Yeah right right. Yeah so it was Jewish connection. I gotcha okay and you know it's lent and almost soon to be Passover. I really like this. Because it's a young man finding himself and coming of age story for sure coming of age and as we have our own girl coming of age and the cooking. Which as you both know audrey loves to like when I saw it really spoke to me in that I like that. This young man is trying to find his footing not only for himself but in his blended family and as you know we're a blended family so on a personal level. It really spoke to me. Well when you speak of blended you're talking more cultural. I mean neither view or like second marriage or anything. No No. We're not ticket marriage exactly. Well so what do you mean blended? I don't get that landed as in. I am a hundred percent Indian. Subcontinent Ted is half Filipino. Have Caucasian Audrey fifty percent Indian quarter Caucasian quarter Filipina so blended as she is a blended individual. This young man Abe as he likes to call himself. Is Half Jewish half Muslim? And you know. He's looking at his birthday cakes with the interational his name and why his father doesn't drinking why his grandparents don't get along and he's just trying to find himself. Yeah I Gotcha I love. Yeah definitely I love the the mentor though. I think the mentor to me was my favorite part of the trailer. Though he finds the guy at Coney island or something or was he. I've no idea. Yeah it's Coney Island hot dog and next thing you know the guys like a culinary experts fusion place so it's like more than just a hotdog fusion it's like hot dog mustard and the funny thing is the kid is like the fusion of the cultures. Or what have I like that? That's cool. Oh that's a good. That's a good insight because like the refusing the like I always wonder too. It's like Filipino. Fusion what are you using when you look at fusion and then like the CLERCIS? So it's more than the Romeo and Juliet that I picked up on. Maybe well I like when he says you're concerned. What does he say you have fusion confusion when it's like a Rahman Taco yeah was hilarious instead it should have been like full-on awful by the cultural appropriation. I believe the grandfather says so. Abe this is another apple. Tv plus is it. I mean asking. It's another a plus right or what. Hey Plus I love I love how you call it a plus D. A plus in my book. I mean I'm not looking at streaming services the way you look at streaming services a house. Do you know if you're going to be able to see it or not. Well we can see almost everything. Well like Disney Pluses d plus and net flicks is like plus. I don't even know what I'm watching anymore. There's a plus and everything. Speaking of the prices were having some difficulties giving all the pluses on all the different devices in the house so like in the family room. Everything streams out here but like on the laptops and the TV in our bedroom. Not everything comes in before nine inch follow. What's the deal with the forty nine inch or you don't have access to all the TV or all the channels or what's what's going on there? I think it's one too many screens. For what what we have going on so so audrey decided that she's going to. Oh that makes sense that she's GonNa get her own net flicks so she. She signed up for her month-long trial she'd start up for that today so that we can get another job so we could get another four screens. I said Oh that's good good luck. It's she's like it's not gonNa cost anything and then then then I said but there'll be that screen. Don't come and get me when when it shows that screen. And then she did. What screen that. You GotTa pay now screen. Yeah you don't like we won't charge your credit card until you know April twelfth but you know we will but the cool thing about Netflix. Is there so boss that they tell you when it's coming up? They don't WanNa like surprise charge. You like a week before the your your trials up like you got a week left in your trial. If you don't want us to charge you just 'cause cancelled because you can't Ted says their boss that's amazing considering that he works for the competition. I mean yes you will. Well you guys have deep plus though right eight plus we've a+ d-plus Hulu H AP Plus Web Strip over to scoop scared Scoop Scoop Bhai only selection for this week. I asked myself every week. Why am I talking to you? Your wife picks the good ones I think. Like every other reboot. This one's GonNa fail to come on now. I think it will. It'LL BE PRETTY CUTE. Wag is funny so awful. The thing I liked about it. It's it's self aware I said to Ted. What's this call? And he said an origin story and I was like. Oh Yeah. That's what it's called but the thing is though I got the jist right away and then they tell you. It's an origin story I mean. Don't they trust her audience to figure it out? No so this is what I was. I think that they're self aware you know they understand that. The Scooby Doo audience knows that. It's all about a man and a mask. It's all about a mystery with an old man trying to get rich and they pull the mask off and the coolest thing about the whole trailer is the fact that he says that I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you. And he gets a door slammed in his face and then they say it's not about a man in the mask. It's about one of us which I thought was the best pie. So you're saying self-aware because they're looking at their history. Yes the Lineage. Of every other every single scooby doo mystery has always been one thing a man in a mask trying to get rich and the the the crew and the mystery machine trying to solve it. You know so. This is the origin story of Shaggy. And Scooby's Love Shaggy. He's in Scooby's jess friend Origin and then carried into a new space. Where hopefully there's something new and I think you know when you give when you have wag which is warner animated something reader animated movies. They have all the LEGO MOVIES. They know how to do that. Irreverent Self Referential Space. So I think that's that's what they do in this you know. Do you think. Scooby talks too much in this one. He does for sure. I mean if you think about the original cartoon he was almost like a maniac and gibberish where he said just enough to where it was like. You got the gist. But he didn't really say much yes. His friends understood him but everybody else was like what yes. Yes yes I think the thing about the dog is he needs to not talk like he's a human but more like a kind of a growl speak like in the old days. Yeah exactly and I don't understand this. Blue Falcon this mark Wahlberg. No Felker Fury Belkin series. How did come on? He's not a blue fell. I sure because according to I am. Dvd His character name is Blue Falcon voiced by our own Spencer confidential mark. Wahlberg you know. Blue Falcon means now diem enlighten us. So in the army when you had somebody who is like screwing up constantly they were a blue Falcon says mark. Wahlberg is screw up in this movie It was kind of like it's a derogatory term. That's really bad I don't want to say is it? Private Pyle is like private. Pyle kind of Yeah. Okay but do you get the sense? He's a little bit to marvel. Yes I you know. I think it's trying to poke fun at the Marvel Space. You know so another thing to make fun of. I think there's there's nothing off limits on what they're making fun of in this one. So that I I I have a lot of hope for this like Clarisa. I think I think it could. It could live up to the hype of this trailer It could also fall short. So you know it's it's a toss up but I wanna see it definitely going to be fifty fifty so like you said though like they like well actually. I think they worked too hard for the joke Because as they go on like the really working at it and maybe you maybe. They kind of spent a lot of the jokes in the trailer. That's what I'm afraid of. Yeah yeah that's true too. I hate when that happens in trailers again. We're not the demographic and speaking of not demographic I think the fell could fury's DAB plays right into the boys will really because they DAB. Yeah are they still dabbling dabbing? Still thing yes well. I guess that morning aerobics at school. They Dad I will say that I. I've I've grown Very aggr- I've grown accustomed to call to calling myself out and saying okay boomer lot because that's the way the cable over. That's the way. Teenagers Teenagers Make Fun of adults. But I did that too. Audrey this evening I you know. Tried to self deprecate and she goes. It's over. Nobody says okay boomer anymore. Oh I thought you were talking to my in laws and you were like Hey Franko sheet boomer boomer to get okay boomer. D- Oh is that what it is us can get okay boomer just as easily okay. Gen xer doesn't work doesn't roll off the tongue. I heard a little bit about okay. Boom or a here and there but that was like a big thing for a while. I think a couple of months ago and I thought Oh man okay a couple of months ago I thought I would have at least three to six months of being cool by saying okay boomer myself and then I in a poll for work so I made a slack. Poll that work work. Because we're going to be working remotely for a couple of weeks. I said to Ted if you love me and your children you will work remotely if your children are out of school prior to spring break and he said yes. I love you and I was like if you don't meet drug passed out in the driveway. You better figure out. Hey can work from home. So they've been working on that all week. How everyone can work remotely as we have. This lead up into the self sequester because really. There's no quarantine the lockdown. Do you get the feel that this is kind of like a precursor to the Zombie Apocalypse? Oldest told the guy at trader Joe's Today I said we're ready for the apocalypse. There's two things that can happen out of this. We have the Zombie apocalypse or we could have ready player one. You know we all put. Vr headsets on. And just like you know. Never go back to work. I'd probably prefer that one. I don't need to get eaten by. My neighbor. Armada fitness verb. Oh yeah so so. We'll get into what we're watching. Let's jump ahead really quick. It's we're Kinda done with all the other stuff. So the discovered the star wars finish. The I haven't watched it but they're watching it. It's amazing it's amazing heavy seen Zombie one. I have no idea they've been watching like a bunch of them. And maybe I'm a bad parent because I'm not paying attention. Do Fence Mertz. What's it called? Dinkins becomes as I'm not as Ambi- it's like the most gentle Zombie and its legs. Who say he says Pharmacist? This is far misys. There's a pharmacist everywhere. And that is how we explained the Zombie Apocalypse to Audrey and Bryce and I'm like yes if there's Zombie apocalypse you two are going to be eaten because you guys do not listen follow directions and I'm just going to leave you. Don't laugh Columbus show. I mean that's the number one thing and the one thing I have to say too. Is they come up to me and they say daddy can we watch? What do you want to watch? She said I WANNA watch funny. Star Wars slimy sound ways. I mean there's like nine episodes talking about but you're so right though because the ministers Islami apocalypse like they're the first to leave him behind. Get everybody killed and hate to say but. I think tim would probably be okay. Mikey well man get everybody eating the first thing. I'm doing Zombie Apocalypse. Is I'm finding the good urologist. Because I got to get this vasectomy reversed. Okay explain why because during his procreate you have to make humans yeah but don't you realize your offspring is going to be like crying and they're gonNA lead to all every with debt. The last thing you need is an infant. That's an adversary true class. That's the wrong place in all these movies. Getting delayed Jimmy wait. Movies are getting delayed yes. They're pushing quiet place to off. I think they're pushing off by a month. Yeah and they're pushing Milan pushing fast and furious. James Bond James Bond. There are pushing link. Come on I don't do my homework. I'm at work until late. I don't read anything we all. We all had to work. So what you're saying is pushing him off because they're afraid people aren't going to go to the movie theatre box office is going to. Yeah the boxes is GONNA tank months. No one's going out of their house. Okay I guess so. We will put the link in the show notes after PHINEAS Fergus. Wars zombies I gotTA catch up with all that because I'm looking for a good time here it is. What are you guys watching china-watch card together? Okay that's still going on because Ted talked about that last week and then everything else he wants to watch. I watch with my eyelids close. I watched Spencer confidential and I heard you watch Spencer confidential this week as well. We did on separate days because Jim watched on Saturday on his trainer and I watched it on Sunday when I was doing my trains could trainer fodder. I mean it was a good action movie. It's like you don't have to pay attention when you miss a senior too. It's like I still know what's going on. Yeah closely during some quiet parts and then woke up for fall asleep. It's like ten in the morning I'm like I'm at my like via two-man two o'clock in the morning last night so little different. Okay go but I thought it had too many slow parts. I thought I thought you're really. Yeah I thought it didn't start. Yeah it didn't you know in the beginning. It was when they when they when they killed that dirty cops. Sorry spoiler alert you know and was asleep on the SOFA and I was watching those who had turned it up because it's so hard to hear Mark Wahlberg and Post Malone talking while they're fighting you know and then I turned it up a little bit but by the time they're killing the dirty cop and woke up and she as just wish he would bathe. You know what I'm saying. Uh I just wish the dirty cop I dirty cops go on. I'll be performing. I'll be performing the rest of the week until her next but yeah so and wakes up to him like getting mito machete in the parking lot or whatever she's like what is this what is going on. It's like. She walked up to woke up the walking dead which is also done. So let's watch this. It's your Mark Walberg. Show and I'm like Oh okay and then do a mark wolper. I think he's a great actor. Took okay I missed that whole bit but is real close and then all I wake up. I Chop Chop Chop I'm a COP. I'm a cabin machetes. Oh that scene yeah intensely now you wake up in the Bus Barn. Exactly yeah overall. I thought it was you know. It's it's typical just fascinated furious popcorn fodder. I mean just overall you know. Entertainment initially yes. Entertainment Yeah I agree but I think for me. The ratio is off. It was like forty sixty and it should have been sixty forty the racial what action to plot an story. Oh Yeah Yeah. Oh you should have been more action. Yeah hundred percent like if you look at six underground six underground is like the perfect action movie of this contemporary age of the streaming streaming space. Fix Underground I haven't seen it. I'll watch it. Oh God I mean just the first twenty five minutes is a car chase in Milan known. And where's the Florence so it's better than like bullet? Oh God no it's awesome. They have a car chase the middle of the Uffizi the the the museum in Florence and they and they spin out next to the the David Statue. They do like donuts. What's what's the movie with. All the Cooper mini coopers. Doing their car chase million job of answering Mark Wahlberg. Yeah so you're saying it's better than becker cheese. How well I did might be in. Might be and and it's and it's you didn't see it. I saw both now. We're going to catch six underground. I think after we hang up here the next trainer more or really good trainer or a trainer fodder. Yeah watching this week Spencer confidential. We're continuing with lost in space. And we got to the point. The robots back and then outside of his purview. I have started dirty money The second season of dirty money a Netflix. Doesn't that just issue off though like I started watching that and I'm like there's nothing I can do about this. Why do you think I pedal so hard at peddling anger like I pedal the bike up like these efforts pedal as they do pedal hard pedal your the base of your home? I said to Ted so you're not going to the gym anymore. No I said so. You're running on the street. And he goes. I don't know I was like. Are you running around? Lake by Boeing. Goes I don't know am I allowed to and I was like. Oh I don't know it's not like a country quarantine and I was like. You're one human being running around the lake. I don't know. Can you get in trouble for that? Plus you know the best thing viruses. Uv Light. Well wait a minute though. So you're telling me people are going to the law enforcement. GonNa be on you for going for a run. Now come on. We're not the same martial law. No I'm just just say well in Italy they're finding people sixty euros or being outside. I think come on man. This is not what I say early. You can't spell pandemic without Pan Tony and like China. You would never happen. Here's the problem you're GONNA quarantine everybody to hope things going to go away. And then you're gonNA say okay people you're free to go about your business and nobody's immune and they're all GONNA wind up. Well did I not share the matchstick mean with you as to why? We're having social distancing social distancing. No I I have no idea why distancing podcast listening. I thought Babrak perfect. So wait a minute are you serious. It's podcast listening. Is The perfect cure. Because you get to be around people in your ear but you don't have to share their germs in ear. No are you kidding? Are you being serious? I'm half joking. But you know the four of us the four of US could all have corona virus and we and people could listen to us and not catch it so I think we're fine now. I thought that it was something where you were saying like. Avoid current virus. Listen to podcasts. Says like I did say that on twitter so you know it is it was. It was a joke. Bid Cast it. They'd cast exactly bid cast you can see. Let me let me say are clearly. Avoid Corona virus. Listen to podcasts specifically trailer junkies podcast on big cast. Fm cast up there on cut. That is that's your advertise kinda altogether and we just got it. I'll make it like a little bit. You could do. And it'll just say like you know Voi- Colonel Virus by listening to podcasts. I'm big cast. Fm Love it boom. We just got it there it is. There's the draft watching serving independently Jimmy. I'm still working on grim but I haven't really watched much because we get go to bed so early and wake up so late having go to bed so early wake up so early and I have been working really late nights so I pretty much. I pretty much get home. Do the bedtime thing with the boys and eat and then I'm except for Fridays. But we robbed you of this Friday so so we know a clerk watches on Fridays. Yeah Grim for for years. It's hilarious like a show and I'll walk and I'll be like you're still watching this. I said she's like yeah season three. I'm like season three. How many are there like? She hasn't anything but I guess what? It's like one episode of week for how many weeks it's like a half. She wants to experience. She's experiential when it comes to these shows so she interjects commercials even when they're not there. It's really go looking for ad it's real life. Ital- Television was made to be consumed in its infancy. That's right that's right. You know what though I binge watch I do two episodes we last week. Did you talk about my back to the future? Would Tom Holland no? We didn't talk about that. But you would know that if you listen to the well. We did not because it is a fake. And we don't want to like perpetuate like no fake. No fake news in trailers Yankees. Podcast say well. Then let's we digress. I Love You. All closer consume alcohol. I'll see as on the flip side at some point. Yes yeah I mean I guess that's it and we're we're out of here and you guys been doing a couple of things to watch and we got our trailers in for tonight and you guys had a beard and we drink some beer and of course it has like one sip left and we're Outta here awesome. I will say that. I think I handled my seventeen percent or pretty well seventy sixer. No it was. It was more than that. I don't know you told me. He told Boys Sixteen. I think oh it might. It might be twenty two sixteen but still a sixteen seventeen percents A good thing. You're not all right man. You have a good night next week. Join Jim and Ted as they disarm another Hollywood bomb or marketing masterpiece remember the Holy Trinity of podcasting subscribe like share a special thanks to Jeremy Jackson for the voiceover and Helio for their music.

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Audio Judo: The Beastie Boys - License To Ill

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Audio Judo: The Beastie Boys - License To Ill

"Everyone Matthew here from audio judo. It's been a difficult couple of weeks. The Nation amidst the chaos and confusion wrought by the pandemic and inflamed by the wrongful death of one of its own is in flux right now. Indeterminate and unpredictable. Millions of people are being asked to look within and outside of themselves at the systematic inequality and determine how to dismantle it with their own hands. It's uncomfortable. It's raw and it's long overdue. We realized that we aren't the most important voices in the room right now and that it is important to be cognizant of how we lift up an emphasize those who need to be heard. We also recognized that change can only be truly effective if it occurs in as many people as possible and be as on compensating as it can be the subject of today's episode, the Beastie Boys have had a long history of fighting hate and prejudice, both within their music, and within their communities, even so they made prejudice decisions and comments early on in their work that they worked long and hard to atone for it. Is this self reflection that we need to take heat of and internalized to move forward as a country? And Begin to bring a fair equal playing field to everyone, both in our direct communities in our nation, and on this planet. We all call home. We fully support the black lives matter movement, and we hope you'll join us in these discussions going forward. Love Fellow everybody welcome to audio judo. I'm Matthew I'm kyle and we're. Here to talk about small music. Everyone's doing all right out there. Stay safe staying indoors right now. Hopefully I hope again. I haven't looked at the calendar so montclair when this would probably be airing hopefully when you're hearing, this everything is up and running again. Oh, that'd be nice and working diligently to get some audio judo. Available on our website t shirts, magnets, stickers coffee mugs. So if you're interested when you're listening to this for the first time, hop on over to audio judo dot com. Hopefully, there's a link there foursome. Merch. Sweet got some really great feedback on our Matthew and the Atlas episode, also a few new around here, please. Give that a listen. And I love that I love. The people are giving new music. Listen experimenting. This is the ultimate goal of the show. Yeah, our titles a podcast of music discovery. And when it works at the amazing thing, and a very grateful that people are are trying some new stuff out. Even my wife listened to that record. It's interesting I. I've been listening to it for six years honey. She's like how remember hearing like I literally listened to it with you around all the time. Doesn't ring any bells and. This sounds familiar. so, Kyle question for you, Oh crap! What's the time I believe it's time to get ill I said. What's the time and I replied that it's time to get ill by seeing I. Wonder. Do you know what we're talking about today I think we're talking about. The BBC boys licensed to ill you're you? Poor Randy. Sorry Randy that is correct sweets, Radia. WanNa raise favourite albums. Is Paul's Boutique. which is the follow up to? This album is specifically looked. Right at him in the is when I said we're GONNA do licensed to ill and I kept my eyes. Really wide is just like no. So, yes, licensed to ill by the beastie boys debut studio album the debut from three boys from New York. Yeah, and IT'S A. Pick, this win for a couple of different reasons, because it's detail, probably not I mean. There's a lot of more familiar. beastie boys albums than this first one. It's first of all. It is their first full length studio album. This was kind of we'll get into their history in a minute, but it was kind of a change for them, and it was kind of a a very different sound in anything they had done before, while they were kind of forming in and and growing the second reason I wanted to talk about. This album is because of sampling. It's a something that at the time was still fairly new I. I mean people had done it before. The Beatles had done at the beach. Boys had done it. you know it? It existed before, and you know with tape looping sampling and things, but this was kind of the era where it exploded, it started to become something that was much more common and today. It's I. Don't think there's an album that comes out. That doesn't have some kind of sample. On it anymore especially when you start looking at certainly not rapper hip hop, no, definitely not. and. When you start looking at even you know EDM techno dance music a lot of times they will take just a single like a drumbeat or you know a snare, hit, or whatever from something else and repeated over and over and over to make their beats. And I. think that it's super super important to modern music. And it can still be open. Hearted must feel like this was where the term sampling may have even originated. I don't think it was called that before might not have been. I'm sure it was I. I've heard it called tape looping before this. That's the Beatles. Did tape golden tape looping right, but that was the second reason the third reason what there were three, there were three reasons actually third. Reason was because I kind of wanted to talk about forgiveness past transgressions again talking about perhaps. Ngong Oh, I was GONNA say so. This was like we said this was the beastie boys first full length album and they went on tour because of this album and. They did a lot of stuff because of this album that will get into as we're talking about or afterwards that they later sort of regretted. and. They later apologized for and they later have kind of backtracked on and said Hey, you know. We were kids. We were young. Rice wasn't appropriate. It's not okay. We're really sorry for and they've done stuff. I think this is the distinction here is. They haven't just said that they've actually done things to try to repair. Those transgressions hey. This is what we did were really sorry about it. Here's what we're going to try to do to make it better. And they haven't done it with multiple things. It wasn't just like one a one off thing. Like I said, we'll get to it a little bit when we start talking about the album net. Yeah, so licensed to ill yeah, so beastie boys originally punk band. Yeah, in the late seventies early eighties. They were also a four piece at the time. drummer kate shown mock rounded out the foursome. A re found a limited success with a song called Cooky Puss that got some play on college radio and at the time there was a particular student at New York. University was trying to get his fledgling label off the ground. One Rick Rubin of Def Jam. he had heard Cooky puss and signed them to his label, but only as a three piece and they had They basically dumped drummer kate yeah. And he changed them from a punk group rap group. It's kind of a weird. It's a weird transition and I think you really hear it on this album. Because the tracks kind of flip flop, there's one that's you'll go from one. That's got a really like a rock and SORTA punk heavy background to one. That's very much. What hip hop sounded like the time and then you'll flip back in. There's another kind of rock heavy song the flip back again and there's kind of a hip hop so. It's a very. Interesting transition, and it's very much like When they kick Shallan back out of the band, it was really literally said in. They've said in interviews. It's because you didn't meet their new sort of Macho. Bad boy image that they were trying to. To personify at the time. There's a word that doesn't get enough. Play anymore. What Macho Macho be says Macho. Nobody says Macho anymore. Anyway they ended up releasing couples singles in summer of eighty six, running up to the release rock-hard in. She's on it. and then they released. Hold it now. Hit It from this record. Right before the release. And Cal you kind of alluded to this and I'm sure you are aware of what the original title of the record was supposed to. Do, you want to do it anyway. You Go. You WanNa, do it? It's called. It was called. Don't be a faggot. At is correct. Apparently Rick Rubin suggested that title and. They went with it for a while and then kind of Whether they personally felt that it was it right or they realized that it wasn't going to be marketable. Well remains to be seen. Records refused to release it under. Went to Russell. and Said change. So they did. At Rock has apologized many times. I for this, but you know truth. Be told it's a much different time. Then now, yeah! It doesn't excuse it, but that's Kinda the reality of of the way it was back then I don't know how many eyebrows it would have raised. had been released. I mean it probably wouldn't have got the play, but still. The Bane of my existence rolling stone. Is a huge fan of this record. Yes, they are utterly confuses me because it's not something I saw them liking anytime especially at the time, right? So different, but this is the. This is a review from the magazine a little bit here. A statement so powerful so fully realized that the Beastie boys spent the rest of their careers living at down licensed to ill created a new way from Middle America to rock with thundering combination of hip hop beats metal, riffs and exuberance smart. Aleck rhymes, even as it picked up the flag from run DMC delivered rap music irrevocably into the heartland, it would become hop first number, one album and one of the best selling rap albums of all time, Mike D, Ad Rockin MCA grew out of the records, Frat, boy, sexual politics and party hearty worldview. But head smacking hits like you gotTA fight for your right to party and Raymond stealing like the AC DC and led Zeppelin songs that were the beast. He's early. TOUCHDOWNS keep getting discovered by new generations of hell raisers, if the definition of the debut album that takes over the world, the shock of the new with an impact that extends for decades. I'd say by all accounts. That's as good a review as you ever GonNa. Get from that magazine Yeah. One of the things about this album is that a lot of people really misunderstood it, and it was because of fight for your party. A lot of people took this album to be. They took that at its face value. They said odds like party song. It's this you this rock song. It's an anthem for you know. Yeah, you gotta fighting against the man on party and the Beastie boys didn't write it that way. They didn't intend it to be that way. It's supposed to be satire about those type of songs, and unfortunately it didn't come off that way. And then when it didn't come off that way, they kind of played into that. And they're. On tour, they kind of used that image that SORTA FRAT boy image to as part of their tour, they had a on the licensed dilatory they had. Now I have heard different stories about how big this is anywhere from five foot to to foot hydraulic penis That was on stage with them, so the a Mike D has actually said that it was a five foot hydraulic penis that still in storage somewhere in New Jersey, they've been paying for it for thirty five years to just be a storage closet somewhere. other news articles and things have said it's ten feet. Twenty feet tall is tend to believe them tend to believe that it's like a five foot, tall hydraulic penis, but they had that stage with them, and it would do stuff. They had girls in cages that were usually selected from the audience. They weren't like professional dancers girls that they brought up in cages on stage. and they did all kinds of crazy stuff that got them. You know a lot of trouble. In Nineteen, ninety two, which was a few years after this came out, they were. They went on tour for their next album, maybe the next next album. I forget which album was now? But when they went to Washington state, they drew straws and one of them had to do radio interviews and say no. It's okay. Parents were not gonNA. Do anything crazy. And one of them had to go and talk to the Parents Council in the State House, and say no. It's okay. Look our lyrics. Aren't that bad? Everything's GonNa be alright and one of them had to go on TV and do an interview I forget, which was which, but they had to go on TV and say no. It's okay, look we're. We're here to have fun. Were not gonNA cause an actual riot? Everything's GonNa. Be Alright. But yeah I think that they kind of played into that bad boy persona on the first album in the first tour, because people misunderstood that it was supposed to be satire, people thought okay. This is what they actually are. Let's roll with it, but they did it effectively for years, and they didn't work that hard for a long time playing it down because I saw them in ninety three on the Palooza tour, and they were still playing up the bad boy image, and they were still just trashed all like. Pretty much. They were we were sitting like. We had lawn seats and you could see into. Like behind the stage, because of out door amphitheater, and it was kind of spread out, and you can see behind the stage, and they were just hanging out by their tour bus, and you could see clouds pot smokers. Like so they didn't you know I don't know how much they played it down. I know they would eventually. Play it down much more going forward and I think a lot of that probably was also you know? If you. Have Parents Councils coming after you in your livelihood depends on performing. You'll probably say to them. Hey, you know it's okay. WE'RE NOT GONNA go. We're not gonNA go as crazy. WE'RE NOT GONNA go. A lot of this is overblown a lot of this stuff. That's not actually. Going to be an issue. They're going to say that seeking key play of course. When track by track. You talk about the cover for. This is super iconic cover with the thing that makes me mad about this too is. Online. You only ever see the front of the cover now. Because of streaming services, only using that little square, and to me the whole cover like the CD cover or the album cover the gate fold. Yeah, exactly, that's so much more important. It makes it a completely different image, because the front is just the back of a Boeing seven twenty seven. It was the Beastie. Boys private jet that they used to fly home. Then if you flip it over, the plane morphs into a joint that's crashing into the side of a mountain. L. is basically being put out mountain. Yeah Rick Rubin actually came up with the idea for this when he was reading led. Biography Hammer. Yeah, it's it is conic. I think it's one of the most memorable like hip hop covers probably for sure of the eighties probably of all time because. Has Seen this cover Even if you don't remember it, you've seen it or you seen interpolations of Eminem used it on kamikaze, and several other people have used the imagery. was featured in a book by Storm Thoresen and Aubrey Powell of hypnosis fame on the one hundred best album covers of all time. So it has it, doesn't it definitely has some cachet? Yes, in that particular world, and I am a as you know an album cover walk as one of my favorites, as I do like using the word wonk walk. It's one of my It was created by like we've been. And Guy are a person I'm not sure I couldn't find anything about this per person world be omen, Donahue that is. To be free was a basketball player but I don't know who the other person is. WORLD BE WORLD BE OHM's L.. Said Omen but its own homes like the like Oh h, M. No es! I see so. Yeah couldn't find a whole lot information about that person. If they're out there. Listening to this podcast, get in touch. Wouldn't that be something? World, be Oh, this is the letter B. by the way just not be just me I I figured. So I track Raymond and stealing amazing opener for this. Emmy. Listen to this. What an opening to an album, it's a great start rate, and this is such a throwback to their other there earlier. SORTA punk rock roots. Samples from when the levee breaks by led Zeppelin a sweet leaf by black Sabbath, and I fought the law by the clash, and it really is i. feel like this is them saying to this is the first track on the album. This is where we're coming from. This is this is where we're coming from, and then we'll get into in second. I feel like the next song. Is Them saying this is where we're going to sing? These boys pirates Beastie, boys aspire. It's a thing. Of the group is rating. Pirates because the rams are so good. You can forgive misplace Mensonge, 'cause they refer to big biting suckers getting thrown in the moat. Jetting is a little more referential for Castles and European stuff than pirates but who really cares. It's a nice welcome to the record of statement. Yeah, and you see there's a be recurring theme here with their references to led Zeppelin. There are several yes, throughout the record and this kind of tease it up. What's next move next? One is the new style which literally the name itself the new style. This is where we're going Oh. You think that's a I think I think. The name is literally a reference to this is our new style. This is where we're going. You just heard what we used to be like, and now this is where we're headed. This song samples Drop the bomb bomb. Drop the bomb by trouble funk. coolest backed by Funk Inc Peter, Piper, by run DMC to break by the beach. Boys so Sony CDC sample in there. Yes, and it's kind of you know talking about guns and misogyny things associated therein talking about how much money they have talked about getting high S- kind of all the ingredients that have become staples of that John Raya Yeah like it or not, and it's kind of amazed me. How sampling and eventually being sampled is so mark so much a part of the way that this music is recorded besides the samples that you mentioned this song. Itself has been sampled over sixty times through the years later by everyone from little Wayne to Busta rhymes black peas to vanilla ice. And also by them as they also sampled this song intergalactic. They sampled themselves a lot. It turns out. which is pretty is pretty cool. Thing I'm curious to know if legally they have to pay themselves. At some sort of. Circular Yeah like we got a every time we sell this track. Ourselves for the previous track, and then we have to use that track to pay other artists that sampled the probably is some sort of weird legalities. They're probably do have to take it out and put it back in Guinea. And also. In the songs reference to Jimmy Page Taurus for led Zeppelin. They say if I play guitar I'd be Jimmy Page. The girls I like are underage, which of course is referencing Jimmy Page's affair or the teenager back in the nineteen seventies. That he had an affinity for the younger lady. Back then. I'm going to say that's the nicest way to put that I've ever heard. I was trying to be gentle. No, but yeah. Just lyrically great. It's just a great. Great Song it is I enjoy it, but not as much as I enjoy the next. She's crafty. This is one of my very favorite songs by the Beastie. Boys really yes. And I'm sure it's no small part. Due to the riff from the ocean yet again by led Zeppelin, seems to be a a real a constant usage of that and I also I also totally dig the beat for the song. And what's totally awesome about this particular exercise? This deep exploration of lyrics is realizing what they really said in the lyrics. I think most albums back then, at least for me I was just listening to stuff and not really digging deeper than I needed to sing along something not in this genre, just kind of singing. It was just party music. So I knew the words, but now what they meant, nor did I care. And now it's it's fun to hear it. Like I, said episode that we recorded every album needs a good song that mentions a Blowjob, yes, and this. Is the first mention of one on the record, but I don't think it's the last or the reference. Always a it went right by me as a kid grow I. Didn't the the line is the cab driver said he recognized my girlie by the back of her head. You said something about to base. I always heard that an as a kid as I. I heard as a base as a Bass Guitar because focused on music not as the basis Dick. So. So, there's so much wonderful. Interplay. And I'm not being sarcastic or they. A Lotta people probably take what I'm saying is like a sarcastic comment, but there's a lot going on in this song, and that the lyrical inner plays just so cool. Yeah, which is one of you know was one of the. One of my favorite things about rap. I'm not a huge rap fan by any stretch of the imagination, but one of my favorite things about that genre is is the lyrical interplay how there's there's external rhyming like rhyming at the end of the line like normal rock songs would, but then there's internal rhyming where rhyming within the verse within the line. Separate things that rock musicians and stuff like that is just it's not utilized is frequently. Yeah, so anyway by the end of the day. It's a song about a bit of sexually active. A girl named Lucy. WHO ROBS THE BOYS BLIND? Yeah, the best part of the song is that she robs them completely blend, either by using her sexuality art also digging a little deeper. There's line in the song that says I spent my last dollar to buy a cigarette. A SA- Brett is a brand of hot dogs sold from food vendor carts in New York City. So that's pretty cool. I would have never known that before researching this record, they talk about food. It's about food and booze a lot all the time. We'll get to that Oh. Yes. But I love that song. I've Oh. That's always been one of my favorites on this record. Posse and affect Posse in effect near the pretty good song. sampled Catch Groove by Juice pee wee's dance. By Joe Ski Love and Change. The beat the female version by band called beside. Don't know any of them did not know either any of them either so so I do the Murph the Popeye and the Jerry Lewis. Winkle! But not the brutus. Come on. That's just a great line cheaper than a hotdog with no mustard. Just a great line trays to good old fashioned song about drinking smoking chicks pistols at I was trying to figure out, and I wrote a note in here about around What is is there a name in hip hop where there's two or three or however many artists who go from one to the other, they sort of pass it along to one another Oh because the only word that I could come up with was around. Wake where you, you're singing a song. Kinda row row, row your boat. xactly that business with around you kind of sing over the top of one another. But with hip hop. You kind of pass it on to the next person using verse, and than they sing a verse in the next person's things worse than comes back to you or whatever I have a feeling. There's a term. But I don't know I. couldn't if there isn't a term, you should come up with Shit. A short blab. Okay. Yeah that SCHNORR LAP is. Something else already all right. Short, black, nord black it's a good sun, though but any song that mentions Abe. The Goethe immediately gets an A. In my book. Like once you reference a the Goethe. Once you referenced fish from Barney Miller which I know I dated myself right away as soon as I said that day myself once. Once he referenced that it's in A. Pretty, much the only reason I ever watched Conan O'Brien was. Or Dave Letterman one of those two nothing was David Letterman that Eva Goethe would just show up every once in a while. Like on an episode of David, I think it was David Letterman yeah. Look Pagoda. My just come shuffle and a half. A pagoda good tune! Slow, ride named after the fog had song. But not the fog hat some. It's not at all the Falcons on because it samples. Low Rider by war is probably the most prominent one in this. What does that sound like? It sounds like this. Status. We got throwed. was. Think. Classic Classic. Rock Song, completely completely sampled and changed. To make it a completely different sounding slow. Another song about guns and drinking and smoking rate seems to be a recurring theme on the record. What else is a recurring theme but White Castle the. Castle. Castle is mentioned five times on this album as it should be on almost every album I would agree. There's actually a really great article that I'll put a a show notes to where they interviewed the president of White. Castle Oh. It's been ten or twelve years ago now, but the interviewed him to talk about his connection, the company's connection to the Beastie Boys, and whether or not they had ever reached out and said Hey, you know they mentioned you a lot or you guys giving them Free White Castle, or you do anything and. It's. It's a fascinating article into how? Corporate Tie INS were. Are they. Getting anything for free doesn't sound like it. Is, they're pretty. They're pretty against the corporate sponsorship sponsorship. whose voice yeah you know who's not against corporate sponsorships. Audio, Judo. Because if I could get a white castle sponsorship. I had to white castles for lunch today. ooh, for we recorded either buys the frozen white castles and they are delicious. Right they're not at all kangaroo meat. which is that was always the. Site that was always the the. The rumor that they were kangaroo I was a kid like up Midwest That, they were kangaroo meat, but you know anything with like a hamburger with a hole in it couple of pickles. Grilled onion. Slices cheese right over there just. You know grab a sack a white castle so good right? anyone. The Beats I love the beats on the son's. Yeah, besides the the low rider stuff seems like also got into trouble at school. You listen to the lyrics, but he seems unaffected. By how much trouble using yeah, I also noticed that that much like the rest of us at this particular. They don't seem to have any brand loyalty in the song. He is drinking a Miller a budweiser. And Heineken and he's also been drinking old crow, which is pretty disgusting in his own. Discussing but like us. You know I was satisfied with old crow back then. Can Get old milwaukee. Blue Ribbon or other Shitty beers like that or Bush light. Anything, catch a buzz, but maybe not global tra made us nothing wrong them, maybe not old crow, but whatever the also there's a line and song that he refers to went to the bathroom and ruled me up a wooller. Ruler is a joint that has been laced with crack or some other sub, so good Lord, so that sounds not so good. See Ruler Sounds Fun, but then when you're like. Laced craftsman uh-huh yeah. He just took that next level. A wooller who wielder? I'm guessing that the next song is Kyle's favorite song. Oh. Yes it certainly is I figured. Scouts favorite song girls. What does it sound like? It's my whole say. season. OFF Day. People. That? The. Jockey Mike D to my dismay. That was my response to so many questions in in high school. I lost track and people started to get mad at me. Where's the? Where's she at Jack and Mike D to my dismay. What. People didn't like his over there. No people do not like it when you burn something into the ground so hard that nothing will ever grow their again kind of beating a dead horse, so to speak pretty much. Yeah, so the song is a huge huge favourite for crowds, yes. As evidenced by the fact that every time I hear it, I hear everyone singing along to it. But. They were not particularly proud of it new nor proud of its popularity. And how people didn't realize that this was the parody and satire. Yes, according to Rick Rubin in the Rock, wrote the song on a train ride back DC, they wrote into the rhythm of the Eisley. Brothers Song Shout which you can obviously here and there And they just wrote really offensive stupidly. Mission Accomplished mission. And is a testament to them, not liking this so much. They only ever performed this song. Live one time It really is like for some reason. This song became super memorable on here I. Remember, this was the first beastie boys song I ever heard. And I didn't I didn't the Beastie boys at the time, but I remember hearing it and be like Oh. That's kind of fun you know, and then later on I was like Oh no, if you to listen to that song, it's can shitty actually. It's Kinda Kinda Real Shady two women. I was like man. The beastie boy sucked their real shitty to women. And then you have to kind of like look even deeper and you're like. Oh! No not really. They've kind of started to to apologize and and they commenced for that kind of shit. Interview at rock gave in Nineteen ninety-four. He said We get a lot of shit for things that done at those times and in a Lotta ways. I think rightfully so it's really scary when you do something as Goof that then four million people take for real girls to do. The dishes cool dude. No, that really wasn't the idea, so you know I take a Lotta crap. Yeah yet. The song would be sampled by eazy. E. N W A public enemy. Ice Cube Eminem Song. It gets very difficult to disown something that does that well. Yeah, and the reputation whether deserved or not is difficult to shed. Yeah, as they encountered for many many years, it's A. It's a troubling song. It really is like and it's what sucks to is. It's so much fun, and it's like you said they play it in a play to rile up crowds, because its UPTEMPO, and it's fast, and everybody recognizes the lear. Opening to the. Like! No, don't please don't do this. We're GONNA. Play it at the ballgame. One of my favorite stories though this song went quiet for several years right, I mean it kind of stayed underneath the consciousness of society, but it wasn't really popular anything, and then in two thousand thirteen. A company called Goldie blocks, which is a a company who they actively create toys and educational things for to get girls into stem science technology engineering mathematics. They're a pretty good company. They make some really cool toys. They took this song and they made a commercial with a huge role. Rube Goldberg machine that these three little girls had built that you know, has all these fun will elements to it and they took a lot of very early pink and Frilly Toys. That are aimed at girls and reappropriated them to be Pieces in this Reu Goldberg Machine. And then they took, and they re. They remixed song, or they covered this song. They claim it's a parody that it has very empowering lyrics for young women Oh like a I I should more of them down, but like there's a part where they say you know. Girls are going to develop the next rocket in the next APP. and it's it's a very empowering version of the song. And, unfortunately it had a lot of issues so apparently the beastie boys. This was after A. Yaochun died and in his will. He had specifically said I don't want our music used for any commercial purposes right now in the US. There's no legal standing for that will to prevent that from happening. It's just a request in other countries, there are but not in the US, but anyways they the beastie boys had their lawyers send Goldie blocks a letter now this is there so much confusion about this and I'm going to try to do my best to keep this clear The BBC boys had their lawyers. Send goldilocks a letter that said hey look! We're curious to know why you chose to use this song without our permission why you chose to do it the way that you did it and Y. You didn't come to us first and try to get some type of clearance or permission before you did this. Glow Goldie blocks claimed that it was a parody song because they had they had. Re recorded the instrumentals. so it was not sampled or copied or anything from the Beastie boys and they had rewritten the lyrics in a way that could be considered parody. And in order to protect themselves, they immediately sued the Beastie Boys. Then like two days of getting a letter, they had their lawyers filing a lawsuit against the Beastie. Boys saying you can't come after us from now from a corporate standpoint. That's probably the right thing to do from a PR standpoint that blew up in their face episodes immediately. All these people were like a minute to be blades. Just sent you a letter. They didn't see anything, and then you countersued them. Trying to say we can do screw you. We're going sue you so it. kind of floated around and every couple of weeks on the Internet. You'd see something new about it. That lawsuit was settled. And immediately afterwards the Beastie boys sued Goldilocks, and they said look. You did infringe on our copyrights because you didn't you know he didn't change it enough for you didn't modify it enough without our and you use it without permission. So what ended up happening was they settled out of court when Goldie blocks published a letter, the basically said look. We did this because we're fans and we felt like it was a great chance to take something that you have admitted was sexist and Misogynist, and not who you are today, and we took that and we reappropriated it in a positive light. Now where you know not okay with what's happening right now, so we're going to change. Change the song in the commercial and keep using the visuals for the commercial and not your music, and they ended up sitting down and the sediment that they reached was that Goldie blocks would pay a million dollars to the charity. The beastie boys choice and they picked a charity that encourages young women to go into stem fields. Okay, so all in all ended up very positive, happy ending, yes, but super negative for both parties involved Albany. But when was that I seem remember twenty thirteen on the commercial case sounds and twenty six late two thousand sixteen was when they settled. Okay, so three or four years there yeah, I seem to remember something about that like around that time. I just every time. I hear the song now though I think about that commercial. 'cause I'm like it's a fun commercial, and it is not on Youtube with the beastie. Boys tracking it, but you can find it on the Internet if you go. Look for it. Technically you know because they took it down. You can't find it anywhere, but it is still out there, so if you WanNa, watch it but college behind it. Anybody can find it. It's just youtube immediately takes it down because of their automated copyright protection thing, but whatever that should bring that up Laura. Talking about girls 'cause. It is kind of an important. Like you said they made the song then they kind of regretted it, and they didn't play it or they didn't do anything for years. And then all of a sudden, it jumped out. Do your there. Any make a note of that couches said we're talking about girls. Make sure we have a note of that. Would that clip out at one point? Kyle talking about girls. It happens occasionally. What's an next on? The next song is probably one of the Beastie Boys. Most famous songs now. Yeah, you're what what set aside that. This record was probably mostly parody. Get. This is the end all be all of party. It anthems the prototype party anthems for everything that would come after it. All right. What So good rates and guitar. Solo Kerry king from slayer slayer. He was working on an album with Rick Rubin and he was like you know I kind of feel like this needs. some brought him over to play guitar on this and another track that we'll get to in a second such just like a rip right there in the middle. Being you. Were recording reign in blood in yeah, nearby, said Hey complain on this. Oh! So this is the one though this is the track that I think that they completely made it as a satire of Jock, Rock Party songs, and even so Mike, said we might have reinforced certain values of some people in our audience when our own values were really actually totally different. there were tons of guys singing along to fight for your right. who were oblivious to the fact that it was a total goof on them? But it was the party Oh yeah party anthem and proof that they never wanted to be taken at face value again. The last time they played it live was nineteen eighty-seven. Senior. It was released. So there's I mean. There you go, so I looked it up. And so there's fifty two weeks obviously nineteen eighty-seven yet. They're only eight number one albums for the whole year. This license to ill was obviously one of them. The others were Bruce Springsteen, live nineteen, seventy, five to eighty five, which is so weird I. Don't get that slippery when wet by Bon Jovi Joshua tree by you to Whitney by Whitney Houston I guess I. Guess by Whitney Houston Auto, La, Bamba by Los Lobos and the adjoining soundtrack bad by some. Who was that by again? I'm my main Kale Michael. Jackson writes a tunnel of love by Bruce springsteen again. And the dirty dancing Sandra out of course now only one of those records were you demanding? Be played at every single party. We went to and it wasn't. Whitney Houston it was this one and a lot of it rested on this song, so I got a story. Oh goody right so so as nineteen is a little bit later, so this would have been nineteen eighty eight March nineteen eighty. Eighty eight I'm playing in aband- and were getting ready to play in a battle of the bands at my high school is a couple of bands setup in the gymnasium and more, we put together a good set, so it's basically audition for what band gets chosen to actually play at the dance. That's a couple of weeks later. Okay, so there's limited amounts of people but many judges. Not a lot of fans as it were not allowed students but more. Judges and judges are Kinda pulled from some select groups of the school, so we put together this great set of what I think is going to be great. You know put in Van Halen put in. You know stuff that people wanna hear this and we're tight sound really really good. We blast through fifteen minutes set, and I'm thinking okay. We've got this hands down. I was getting ready to go. See Rush later that night I was feeling good like it's a good night good Friday and another friend of ours who's in another band who eventually he and I would join forces in great, a different band based on the backs of what I saw within the next few minutes so. So, they they. They're set up and I'm like Oh we gotta watch. You GotTa Watch. Dan's band play. And really okay cool and they came out and the first thing they did was this song and nailed to the wall, and within thirty seconds of them, starting I started packing up my gear. We've just lost and the why now we played great. It doesn't matter how good we play anymore. This just one everything because he went to the. He went to the base level. Party anthem to get every kid riled up and if they play that. We're done. Just. Start packing up your shit because it's over. And it was, it was in they not only that I. mean they played it to perfection and I'm like okay, and it was based on that that I went up to him and said we need. We need to put two bands together and start playing gigs, and that's what that's how we started getting gigs throughout cities. We were. Way Better together than we were separate, but it was all on the backs of the song because that's exactly what it did. Every kid had MTV. Every kid grew up at that at that age seeing this video three four times a day, and just being like Oh my God. That's awesome endless. And that's exactly. He played right into it and like done done so good. Dan, if you're listening still a great choice I do have to say though I feel like head. They played I wanNA dance with somebody by Whitney Houston instead I feel like you'd be in the same place if you think it's a banger. That's true or a so emotional. I could could have blasted that one out or something from dirty dancing. Or Tunnel of love, but. Huge Bruce springsteen. Fans that are fifteen years old back then. YIKES! No sleep till Brooklyn no sleep till Earth, when it's another one of my favorite beastie boys, yes, songs great metal riff blasted through sample of TNT by CDC. Guitar Solo. which seems remarkably out of place in the song rates is again provided by carrying yup. It's named after the title is a play on motor heads at no sleep till Hammersmith Sunglasses motorhead already. Soak. Boys have probably written a song referencing every single of the five boroughs in New York but I still think this is probably the most iconic and it is such a like a. it's such a great. It's a story song first of all about them, talking about being out on tour, and how such a slog and you have to work so hard, but they're still not gonNA rest until they get home to Brooklyn, but it's a parody of Glam Rock and Arena Rock Stars of the day, which is doing the same thing which is great, because then you throw in the title is a riff on no sleep till Hammersmith at and IT'S A. A, it's great at it. There's a lot of metal in this one is probably why I love the song as much as I do. Yes, is that the heavily into the metal? Aspect of it is there, so we have a song I. Do not have a clip of have a clip. It should have gotten a clip a Nestle till Brooklyn sorry. Take your finger off that button randy. Don't you need to do it? I don't think there's a clip until the end tyranny. Andy the last tram. Sorry you can, you can take a breather. You can take five. Get another beer on the next song. I'm surprised that you didn't have Paul. Revere Right. I thought about it. The eight Oh eight drum machine with the backwards rate. Look Book. It's genius. It is absolutely. Genius the lyrics are fairly inconsequential. I mean literally, and they were playing around in the studio to an MC was like he would. If we record this eight eight drum machine on tape and then play the tape backwards and they're just like well. Let's try it and you know. Everybody has said it's this absolute genius level you know fame. He could hear it already. He already knew what was going to sound like. He had to do it to prove it to everybody else. So Mike details story said that backwards eight. Oh Eight, if I think right. Joe Or run from run DMC they was his idea to flip the tape, but really he was there like hail should flip the tape around so that Shit's backwards. Either that or we had it on backward any heard it, and he bugged out, and that's what he said. y'All have to do a story rhyme over that shit. And he came in and started writing the shit with us. Either way. Whoever's responsible for it? As one of the most important innovations in the history of modern like modern rap for share that backwards beat sound and that the name Paul Revere has nothing to do with the colonial hero of the same name. No, it was. It is the name of was the name of the Horse had abattoirs. In case you don't know. His University never heard this song. It's a fictitious story about how the Beastie boys met Seth sort of in the Old West I. Guess you would say yeah, 'cause they're. They're supposed to be gunslingers, basically and bank robbers, but it doesn't matter. The story in a song is the drumbeat rate. That is the story. That is review. The horse sure Yeah Okay Paul Revere the Horse! What that's from a play, too, isn't it? What's the name of somebody with a Horse named Paul Revere? Denote about the. I don't know anyways. Yes, somebody knows somebody out there. Notice. You're listening, you know. Yeah, let us know. Hold it now hit it. This has so many frequent samples in it. Yeah, the riddled with them take me to Mardi Gras by Bob James funky stuff by Kool in the gang return of Leroy part one by the Jimmy Castor Bunch Lodhi by Dougie, fresh and slick. Rick Christmas rapid by Kurtis blow drop the bomb by trouble funk. Let's get small by trouble. FUNK time to get ill by. By the Beastie Boys. That's right. They sampled a song that you haven't heard yet. If you listen to his album from beginning to end Lottie, dod is is was the first rap group I ever listened to Dougie fresh and the get fresh crew. ooh, that was the was the first rap album that actually had and that was on there. You know they don't cause trouble and they don't hurt. Just want you to know that. It's just a the typical life in the typical day in the life of the Beastie Boys, guns, drugs, chicks, and eating fast food twitter to me, though that this is the first single from this album. It's an odd choice like that seems like a weird choice to me but I guess it really does exemplify like. Hey, we're not doing punk and rock anymore. We're doing hip hop and. Rapping now, so which yes, they are doing oh. Yeah, they moved up. They moved up from old crow and drinking thunderbird ooh. So that's a step up. What's the word are over I believe Sunday bird is the word and what's the price? Forty twice! That is. Nobody listening going to get that reference that oh no. I'm not even GONNA okay. If you understand what I'm referencing Murphy's. If you understand the person that I'm referencing, and then you understand the commercial that that person is referencing, email me, kyle at audio judo dot com and let me know. Think Countess went Meta I will give you. I will give you some kind of a prize at t shirt or something not sure if you can tell me the. Teacher shirt. It is an audio judo. T shirt once we have them. I will send one for free to somebody. Yeah, you should, because of that now you have to know the person and the thing. The media that I'm referencing and then the person in media that their reference to you beat the the quote one more time, please. What's the Word Thunderbird? What's the price forty twice? All right good luck out there, everybody, everybody's researching. Yeah, right? Yeah, you can look it up, but if you can do it without looking it up, we don't look it up. Or look it up whatever whatever? Brass Monte. That funky monkey brass monkey to drink I didn't know that until I was doing research for this. It's. It's referenced a few times throughout the record. And finally we got a whole song. Devoted to Ryan it is is of course named after the homemade at the time, alcoholic drink of the same name, and here's how you make it Ooh Matt he's got the recipe named the Song Brass Monkey, usually first the cocktail that consists of equal Aereo, equal parts of beer and orange juice and mixture of gin triple sec, Tequila sour mix, great, true, choose or Rum Vodka and orange juice with without Galliano, so it doesn't sound like the best that you. You lost me when you mixed beer and orange juice, yeah has not a look I wanna see. COME BACK! The other way can tell you that right now. How difficult is it confirmed out of a microphone just Hayes. You all in the little, you got it all in there. Take it out of the pop filter. Here is brought. But you did say you said or or so there's a second recipe for your which sounded a lot better. It was rum, and what rum vodka and orange juice with or without Galliano liqueur. That sounds considerably more Palette, Ori, Jin trip, sect, Tequila, orange, juice, sour and grapefruit juice. Why do you need sour and grapefruit juice? Feel like one is gonNA. Take care of that, but you know. It's a good song. Apparently Dave Matthews did a cover of this back. Yeah, ninety seven. It's pretty good actually I haven't heard it. They strung it between too much and ants marching. Missy I can get up because I hear. It's a I. Hear from Kyle. That is pretty good. Producer Andy says that's pretty close to Harvey Wall Bear. Is it really those are popular in the early eighties. The Harvey Wall Banger Slow and low. samples eighth wonder by sugarhill gang and flip the switch by ECDC, sugarhill gang, the original godfathers of rap and this is a cover. Recorded by run DMC I. see see out got brass monkey on the brain. It's not rum DMC. Run DMC. Great cover band may just take a shot for they do every set. Rub the. EMC every every song, but a different type out all I could get down on something like that I sounds like a good thing to listen to slow slow and lows. It's such it's an interesting song. It's got a funky tempo to it. It's got even know how to describe it. It's a another like hip hop Browne Song for for lack of a better way to describe it, and it's a it's a good example of. What they would do in the future to again. I like. Do you like the next sophomore. What time would that be? I believe it's time to get ill What's the time, Randy? There, we go last song on. This album is time to get ill. Chapel Talk. Chila. Across. This, This song, not only do I. Think it's a great wrap up for this album because they take a bunch of samples that the used in other places on album and use them here again i. think that it's a like a call to arms almost delaying. This is the song where they're saying to other hip hop artists. This is what we can do now. Do something better because that was kind of the game. That hip hop artists were playing in the in the eighties. Each other exactly we can do this now. Go beat it, and then we'll take what you did and make it even better. samples include I'm GonNa love you just a little more baby by Barry White Which? Don't Hoon down to the corner by CR. CUSTARD PIE by led Zeppelin I love rock and roll by Joan Jett the black arts nothing from nothing. Billy Preston Gucci Time by school. D- Mr Ed by Jay Livingston. Take the money and run by Steve Miller. Band flick of a switch by ACDC greenacres by Vic Missy Eddie Albert Iga bore rocket in the pocket, the live version by Sharon the party scene by the Russell Brothers funky stuff I cool, and the gang and jam on the Groove by Ralph MacDonald owes US another one boogie on reggae woman. stevie wonder was also in there. That is another. Another thing that I found super difficult in researching this album. What's at every single source that I would find like? Hey, here's all the samples that were used. You'd then go to the next one, and it would be missing like three of them. Yeah, you're like Oh. We're those in there, but that have another one that you're like. Oh, where was that clear? They can identify them all. They do their best in someone's like well. I, heard this one. And I think that's a yeah. Just pull out all the stops on the closer. Really just ramp it up to eleven, and that's exactly what they did. More references to brass monkey on this and Chivas off Chivas Shiva's and plenty of references to classic rock, which diller research on that that all comes from Rick Rubin so they were unfamiliar with almost all of that relays because they were punk is they didn't know any of that classic stuff. Rick Rubin brought that all to the table. Interesting which I love either way I love how they they interpolate, versus they use re creations of verses from classic rock songs that the stones recorded and just twist them a little bit And use them lyrics, but again like I said the lyrical phrasing has always been. What's really interested me about rap music so definitely a good one? Yeah, and I definitely think like I said this is kind of A. Call to arms to other hip hop artists to say look. This is what we can do one up so that we can try to one up you, but I think that it really sinks that home. Because the end of the song it fades out, and then it comes back with this drumbeat. That is totally plain. It has no singing over. It has nothing over it right, and it's a perfect sample. It's just this drumbeat that comes back out of nowhere, and you're like why the hell is that there and then once you realize. Oh, they put that there, so other people can hear it sample it very easily. And then take it and build off of it. I think that's honestly that's why that's there. I couldn't find anybody that straight out said that. That's why I think it's there. I think it's there so that other people can get a nice clean sample from it and then build off of the great idea yeah. So. That's that's a that's it. That's don't be a faggot. Sorry. Licensed to. That is Do want to wrap it up a little bit though 'cause i. In A, we're going to talk about forgiveness. Retribution for whether or not artists can actually be and should be forgiven for their past discretion, because we kind of live today we live in this sort of instant canceled culture where you know. An, artist, will they? Since they're so connected, everybody through social media. You know they might say something or do something that they're like immediately. They regret it, but it's now out there and everyone in the world thought the same time. and. They have no way to cancel that. Because at least you know in the late eighties. When the Beastie boys were doing this, they had the luxury of time because when they did or said something, it took time for it. To to move its way outward for people to hear it for things to happen, and for them to be able to grow and mature and understand Oh. Maybe, that wasn't a great idea. You know we should probably figure out how we can undo that how we can apologize for that how we can make it better right Like, we said the original name of this album was going to be a faggot. In a letter to time out magazine. Time Out New York magazine. In December nineteen, ninety, nine at rock wrote I would like to formally apologize to the entire, gay and lesbian community for the shitty ignorant. On our first record there are no excuses, but time has healed their stupidity. We hope that you will accept this long overdue apology. I thought that was very interesting. I can't think of a lot of artists today that would have that eloquence to be able to actually sit down and write something themselves, and even when they do, they wouldn't read it like that. They would write a tweet. That's like hey, sorry about that. I deleted. The earlier tweet cried. You know, or there'd be a facebook post or Or an instagram story at it's like I think that it's it's more important that they grew and realized it than it is to get the apology out there as quick as possible but as far as like misogyny and sexism go as well. There's a book that just came out a couple of years ago called Beastie boy book, that is all the stories of them from the beginning, basically, it's a bunch of short stories, and they got other people to come in and right. Outsider Schoenbach can't. What is her first Nate Kate Shell Inbox, thank you. She wrote a chapter in there about what happened to her. She was with the Beastie boys in why she got kicked out. And how you know, she's okay with it. or I guess she's okay with it It has a really cool intro by any polar which I would not thinking of the Beastie Boys. Book is going to be introduced by Amy Poehler. But. It's very cool, and she talks a lot about how the grown and how they've changed, and how she as a fan longtime fan to deal with the sexism in the early days, and then kind of grew herself, and said you know. Hey, they were sexist, and now they've. They've matured, but I would hope after a career spanning thirty four years. You do would be able to correct. The wrong exactly that you made it when times were different when things weren't necessarily, they weren't right, but they weren't frowned. Upon openly as they are now and I think the best indicator of that is. They realized early on that. Hey, are critics are saying this is bad? Our fans are saying this is bad. We need to do something about it right, but like I said it takes, it takes time years to shed that reputation. 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Audio Judo: The Beastie Boys - License To Ill

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Audio Judo: The Beastie Boys - License To Ill

"Everyone Matthew here from audio judo. It's been a difficult couple of weeks. The, nation amidst the chaos and confusion wrought by the pandemic and inflamed by the wrongful death of one of its own is in flux right now. Indeterminate and unpredictable. Millions of people are being asked to look within and outside of themselves at the systematic inequality and determine how to dismantle it with their own hands. It's uncomfortable. It's raw and it's long overdue. We realized that we aren't the most important voices in the room right now and that it is important to be cognizant of how we lift up and emphasize those who need to be heard. We also recognized that change can only be truly effective if it occurs in as many people as possible and be as on composting, as it can be the subject of today's episode, the Beastie Boys have had a long history of fighting hate and prejudice, both within their music, and within their communities, even so they made prejudice decisions and comments early on in their work that they worked long and hard to atone for it. Is this self reflection that we need to take heat of and internalized to move forward as a country? And Begin to bring a fair equal playing field to everyone, both in our direct communities in our nation, and on this planet, we all call home. We fully support the black lives matter movement, and we hope you'll join us in these discussions going forward. Love. Fellow everybody welcome to audio? Judo I'm Matthew I'm Kyle and we're? Here to talk about some more music. Everyone's doing all right out there. Stay in safe staying indoors right now. Hopefully I hope again. I haven't looked at the calendar so montclair when this would probably be airing hopefully when you're hearing, this everything is up and running again. Oh, that'd be nice and working diligently to get some audio judo merchandise available on our website. t shirts, magnets, stickers coffee mugs. so if you're interested when you're listening to this for the first time, hop on over to audio judo dot com. Hopefully, there's a link there foursome. MERCH! Sweet got some really great feedback on our. Matthew and the Atlas episode also a few our new around here. Please give that a listen. And I love that I love. The people are giving new music. Listen experimenting. This is the ultimate goal of the show. Yeah, our title is a podcast of music discovery. And when it works at see amazing thing, and a very grateful that people are are trying some new stuff out. Even my wife listened to that record. It's interesting I. I'm like I've been listening to it for six years honey. IS I. Remember hearing like I literally listened to it with you around all the time. She. Doesn't ring any bells and. WanNa this outsor-. Millier. so kyle of a question for you. Oh Crap! What's the time I believe? It's time to get ill. I said what's the time and I replied that it's time to get ill I see I wonder. Do you know what we're talking about today? I think we're talking about. The BBC boys licensed to ill you're you? Poor Randy. Sorry Randy, that is correct. Sweets Randy WanNa race favourite albums is. Paul's Boutique. which is the follow up to this album? I specifically looked right at him in the is when I said. We're GONNA. Do licensed ill, and then I kept my eyes. Really wide is just like no. So yes, licensed to ill by the beastie boys debut studio album the debut from three boys from New York yeah and IT'S A. Pick, this win for a couple of different reasons because it's. Probably, not I mean. There's a lot of more familiar. beastie boys albums than this first one. But first of all, it is their first full length studio album. This was kind of. We'll get into their history in a minute, but it was kind of a change for them, and it was kind of a very different sound than anything they had done before, while they were kind of forming in and and growing the second reason I wanted to talk about. This album is because of sampling. It's a something at the time was still fairly new. I mean people have? Have done it before the Beatles had done at the beach. Boys had done it You know it had existed before, and you know with tape looping sampling and things, but this was kind of the era where it exploded, it started to become something that was much more common today. It's I don't think there's an album that comes out. That doesn't have some kind of sample. On it anymore especially when you start looking at certainly not rapper hip hop, no, definitely not. And when you start looking at even you know Edm techno dance music a lot of times they will take just a single like a drumbeat or you know a snare, hit, or whatever from something else and repeated over and over and over to make their beats. And I think that it's super super important to modern music. And it can still be open. Hearted must feel like this was where the term sampling may have even originated I don't think it was called that before might not have been I'm sure it was I. I've heard it called tape looping before this. That's the Beatles did yet hate golden tape looping right, but that was the second reason the third reason what there were three, there were three reasons actually. A third reason was because I kinda WanNa talk about forgiveness for past transgressions again talking about perhaps. Not Gone I was GonNa say so this was like we said this was the first full length album and they went on tour because of this album, and they did a lot of stuff because of this album that will get into as we're talking about it or afterwards that they later sort of regretted. And they later apologized for and they later have kind of backtracked on and said Hey, you know. We were kids. We were young. Rice wasn't appropriate. It's not okay. We're really sorry for and they've done stuff. I think this is the distinction here is. They haven't just said that they've actually done things to try to repair. Those transgressions hey. This is what we did. We're really sorry about it. Here's what we're going to try to do to make it better. And they've done it with multiple things. It wasn't just like one a one off thing. Like. I said we'll get to it a little bit when we start talking about the album net. Yeah so licensed to ill yeah, so beastie boys originally punk band. Yeah, in the late seventies early eighties. They were also a four piece at the time. drummer kate shown mock rounded out the foursome A. Limited success with a song called cooky. Puss, that got some play on college radio And at the time there was a particular student at New York University was trying to get his fledgling label off the ground one Rick Rubin of Def Jam. he had heard Cooky puss and signed them to his label that. As a three piece and they had they basically dumped drummer. Kate, yeah. And, he changed them from a punk group to rap group. It's kind of a weird. It's a weird transition and I. Think you really hear it on this album? Because the tracks kind of flip flop, there's one that's you'll go from one. That's got a really like a rock and SORTA punk heavy background to one. That's very much. What hip hop sounded like the time and then you'll flip back in. There's another kind of rock heavy song on the flip back again in this kind of a hip hop them. It's a very interesting transition, and it's very much like When they kick Schoenbach out of the band. It was really literally said in. They've said in interviews. It's because it didn't meet their new sort of Macho. Bad boy image that they were trying to to personify at the time. There's a word that doesn't get enough. Play anymore. What Macho Macho besides says. Macho says Macho anymore. Anyway they ended up releasing couples singles in summer of eighty six, running up to the release rock-hard in. She's on it. and then they released. Hold it now. Hit It from this record. Right before the release. And Cal you kind of alluded to this, and I'm sure you are aware of what the original title of the record was supposed to. Do. You want to do it anyway. You Go. You WanNa do it. It's called. It was originally called. Don't be a faggot. At, correct. Apparently Rick. Rubin suggested that title and They went with it for a while and then kind of Whether they personally felt that it wasn't right or the that it wasn't going to be marketable. Well, remains to be seen. Records refused to release it under. Went to Russell Simmons and said change. So At Rock has apologized many times I for this, but you know truth, be told it's a much different time. Then now, yeah! It doesn't excuse it, but that's Kinda the reality of of the way. It was back then like I. don't know how many eyebrows it would have raised. had been released I. Mean it probably wouldn't have got the play, but still? The Bane of my existence Rolling Stone Is a huge fan of this record? Yes, they are utterly confuses me because it's not something. I saw them liking anytime especially at the time, right? So different, but this is the. This is a review from the magazine a little bit here. A statement so powerful, so fully realized that the Beastie boys spent the rest of their careers, living down licensed to created a new way from Middle America to rock with thundering combination of hip hop beats metal, riffs and exuberance, smart Aleck rhymes, even as it picked up the flag from run DMC and delivered rap music irrevocably into the heartland, it would become hip hop, first number, one album and one of the best selling rap albums of all time. Mike D Ad Rock Rockin MCA grew out of the records frat boy, sexual politics and party hearty worldview. But head smacking hits like you gotTA fight for your right to party and Raymond's Dealin like the D. C. and led Zeppelin songs that were the beast. He's early. TOUCHDOWNS keep getting discovered by new generations of hell raisers, if the definition of the debut album that takes over the world, the shock of the new with an impact that extends for decades. I'd say by all accounts. That's as good a review as you ever going to get from that magazine Yeah. One of the things about this album is that a lot of people really misunderstood it and it was because of fight for your party. A lot of people took this album to be. They took that at its face value. They said Oh. It's like party song. It's this you know this rock song. It's an anthem for you know. Yeah, you get fighting against the man you know party and the Beastie boys didn't write it that way. They intend it to be that way. It's supposed to be satire about those type of songs, and unfortunately it didn't come off that way. And then when it didn't come off that way, they kind of played into that. And they're. On tour, they kind of used that image that sort of frat boy image to as part of their tour. They had a licensed ill tour they had. Now I have heard different stories about how big this is anywhere from five foot to to foot hydraulic penis There was on stage with them, so the a Mike D has said that it was a five foot hydraulic penis that still in storage somewhere in New Jersey. They've been paying for it for thirty five years to just be a storage closet somewhere. other news articles and things have said it's ten feet twenty feet tall I tend to believe them tend to believe that it's like a five foot, tall hydraulic penis, but they had that unstaged with them, and it would do stuff. They had girls in cages that were usually selected from the audience. They weren't like professional dancers. They were just girls that they brought up in cages on stage They did all kinds of crazy stuff that got them. You know a lot of trouble. In Nineteen, ninety two, which was a few years after this came out, they were they went on tour for their next album. May the next next album? I forget which album was now, but when they went to Washington state, they drew straws and one of them had to do. Radio interviews say no, it's okay. Parents were not gonNA. Do anything crazy. And one of them had to go and talk to the Parents Council in the State House and say no. It's okay. Look our lyrics. Aren't that bad? Everything's GonNa be alright and one of them had to go on TV and do an interview. I forget which was which, but they had to go on TV and say no. It's okay, look we're. We're here to have fun. We're not gonNA. Cause an actual riot control is gonNA. Be Alright. But yeah I think that they kind of played into that bad boy persona on the first album in the first tour, because people misunderstood that it was supposed to be satire, people thought okay. This is what they actually are. Let's roll with it, but they did it effectively for years, and they didn't work that hard for a long time playing it down, because I saw them in ninety three on wall, Palooza tour, and they were still playing up the bad boy image and were still just trashed all like. Pretty much nonstop they were we were sitting like. We had lawn seats and you could see into. Like behind the stage because outdoor amphitheater, and it was kind of spread out, and you can see behind the stage, and they were just hanging out by their tour bus, and you could see clouds about smoked. Like So they didn't you know I? Don't know how much they played it down. I know they would eventually. Play it down much more going forward, and I think a lot of that probably was also you know? If you have parents councils coming after you in your livelihood depends on performing. You'll probably say to them. Hey, you know it's okay. WE'RE NOT GONNA go, we're not gonNA, go as crazy. We're not going to go. A lot of. This is overblown a lot of this stuff. That's not actually. Going to be an issue, they're going to say that seeking key play of course. When track? By Track You get to talk about the cover for. This is super iconic cover. Would the thing that makes me mad about this too is. Online. You only ever see the front of the cover now. Because of streaming services only using that little square and to me the whole cover like the CD cover or the album cover the gate fold exactly it. That's so much more important. It makes it. It's a completely different image, because the front is just the back of US seven, twenty seven. It was the Beastie boys private jet that they used to fly home. Then if you flip it over, the plane morphs into a joint that's crashing into the side of a mountain is basically being put out mountain. Yeah Rick Rubin actually came up with the idea for this when he was reading led Zeppelin biography Hammer. Odds yeah, it's it is conic. I think it's one of the most memorable like hip hop covers probably for sure of the eighties probably of all time because everybody has seen this cover Even if you don't remember it, you've seen it or you seen interpolations of. Eminem used it on kamikaze, and several other people have used the imagery. Almost featured in a book by Storm Thoresen in Aubrey, Powell, hypnosis fame on the one hundred best album covers of all time, so it has it, doesn't it definitely has some cachet? Yes, in that particular world, and I am a as you know an album cover walk as one of my favorites as I know i. do like using the word wonk walk. Is One of my It was created by Leeann Iram and guy are a person. I'm not sure I couldn't find anything about this. Per Person. World Be Omen, Donahue, that is. To be free was a basketball player But I don't know who the other person is. World, BE WORLD BE OHM's L.. Said Omen but its own homes like the like. Oh H M! No, es up, I see so. Yeah couldn't find a whole lot information about that person so if they're out there, listening to this podcast, get in touch. Wouldn't that be something breaks? World Be Oh, this is the letter B. by the way just not be. It's just me, I I figured. So I track. Raymond and stealing amazing opener for this. Emmy. Listen to this. What an opening to an album! It's a great start rate, and this is such a throwback to their other there earlier SORTA punk rock roots. Samples from when the levee breaks by led Zeppelin, a sweet leaf by black Sabbath, and I fought the law by the clash, and it really is i. feel like this is them saying to this is the first track on the album. This is where we're coming from. This is this is where we're coming from, and then we'll get into the second I feel like the next song is m saying this is where we're going interesting. These boys pirates beastie boys aspire. It's all things lyrical adventure. The group is rating. Pirates because the rams are so good. You can forgive misplace Mensonge, because they refer to big biting suckers getting thrown in the moat. Jet Think is a little more referential for Castles and European stuff than pirates but who really cares. It's a nice welcome to the record of statement. Yeah, and you see there's a be recurring theme here with their references to led Zeppelin. There are several yes, throughout the record and this kind of tease it up. What's next? Next one is the new style which literally the name itself the new style. This is where we're going Oh. You think that's a I think I think the name is literally a reference to this is our new style. This is where we're going. You just heard what we used to be like. And now this is where we're headed. The song samples drop the bomb bomb. Drop the bomb by trouble funk. coolest backed by Funk Inc Peter, Piper, by run, DMC two three break by the beach. Boys saw Sony CD sample in there. Yes, and it's kind of you know talking about guns and misogyny things societas therein, talking about how much money they have talked about getting high S- kind of all the ingredients that have become staples of that. John Raya Yeah like it or not, and it's kind of amazed me. How sampling eventually being sampled is so mart so much a part of the way that this music is recorded decides the samples that you mentioned this song. Itself has been sampled over sixty times through the years later by everyone from little Wayne to Busta rhymes black-eyed peas to vanilla ice. And also by them as they also sampled this song intergalactic. They sampled themselves a lot. It turns out. which a is pretty cool thing I'm curious to know if legally they have to pay themselves. At some sort of Weird circular. Yeah, like we got a every time. We sell this future track. Ourselves for the previous track. And then we have abuse that track to pay other artists that we sampled. There probably is some sort of weird legalities. They're probably do have to take it out and put it back in getting. And also. In the songs reference to Jimmy page for led Zeppelin again, they say if I play guitar, I'd be Jimmy page. The girls I like are underage, which of course referencing Jimmy Page's affair with a teenager back in the nineteen seventies. That he had an affinity for the younger lady. Back then. Boy. I'm just saying that's the nicest way to put that I've ever heard. I was trying to be gentle. Know but yeah. Just lyrically great, it's just a great. Great Song it is I enjoy it, but not as much as I enjoyed the next. She's crafty. This is one of my very favorite songs by the Beastie. Boys really yes. And I'm sure it's in no small part. Due to the riff from the ocean yet again by led Zeppelin seems to be a a real a constant usage of that and I also I also totally just dig the beat for the song. And what's totally awesome about this particular exercise? This deep exploration of lyrics is. What they really said in the lyrics. I think most albums back then at least for me. I was just listening to stuff and not really digging deeper than I needed to sing along not in this genre just kind of singing. It was just party music. Really so I knew the words, but now what they meant, nor did I care. And now it's it's fun to hear it. Like I, said last episode that we recorded. Every album needs a good song that mentions blow job, yes, and this. Is the at least the first mention of one on the record, but I don't think it's the last. The reference always It went right by me as a kid grow I. Didn't the the line? Is the cab driver said he recognized my girlie by the back of her head. He said something about to base I always heard that an as a kid as I heard, I heard as a base as a Bass Guitar because focused on music, not as the basis Dick. So So there's so much wonderful lyrical interplay. And I'm not being sarcastic. They a lot of people probably take what I'm saying is like a sarcastic comment, but there's a lot going on in this song, and that the lyrical place to so cool. Yeah, which I think is one of you know was one of the. One of my favorite things about rap I'm not a huge rap fan by any stretch of the imagination, but one of my favorite things about that genre is is the lyrical interplay how there's there's external rhyming like rhyming at the end of a line like normal rock songs would, but then there's internal rhyming where rhyming within the verse within the line. Separate things that rock musicians and stuff like that is just it's not utilized is frequently. Yeah, so anyway by the end of the day it's a song about a bit of a sexually active girl named Lucy who robs the boys blind. Yeah, the best part of the song is that she robs them completely blind either by using her sexuality art. Also digging a little deeper? There's line in the song that says I spent my last dollar to buy a cigarette a SA- Brett is a brand of hot dogs sold from food vendor carts in New York City. So that's, pretty, cool. I would have never known that before researching this record, they talk about food. It's about food and booze a lot all the time. We'll get to that, but oh, yes. But I love that song. I've Oh. That's always been one of my favorites on this record. Posse in effect posse in effect near the pretty good song. sampled catch groove by juice pee-wee's dance. By Joe Ski Love and Change The beat the female version by band called beside. Don't know any of them did not know either any of them either so so I do this Murph the Popeye and the Jerry Lewis. Liked it winkle. But not the brutus. Come on. That's just a great line cheaper than a hotdog with no mustard. Its just a great line raised to good old fashioned song about drink and smoke in chicks pistols at I was trying to figure out, and I wrote a note in here about around What is is there a name in hip hop where there's two or three or however many artists who go from one to the other, and they sort of pass it along to one another Oh because the only word that I could come up with was around. Wake where you, you're singing a song, Kinda row row, row your bose -actly that business with around you kind of sing over the top of one another. But with hip hop you kind of pass it on to the next person using verse, and then they sing aversion the next person's things burst than comes back to you or whatever I have a feeling. There's a term. But I don't know I. couldn't if there isn't a term you should come up with? A short black. Okay. Yeah that Schnorr black is an historic. Else already all right, short, black or black. It's a good song, though but any song that mentions Abe. The Goethe immediately gets an A. In my book. Like once you reference Abe the Goethe once. You referenced fish from Barney Miller which I know, I dated myself right away as soon as I said that dated myself once. Once, he referred stat. It's in A. It's pretty much. The only reason I ever watched Conan O'Brien was. Or Dave Letterman. One of those two nothing was David. Letterman that Eva Goethe would just show up every once in a while. Like on an episode of David Lead, I think it was David. Letterman Yeah Look Pagoda. My just come shuffle and a half. A ago. Good tune! Slow ride named after the fog had on. But not the fog hat some. It's not at all the. On because it samples. Low Rider by war is probably the most prominent one in this. What does that sound like? It sounds like this. Style, was. Classic Classic. Rock Song. Completely completely sampled and changed. To make it a completely different sounding song. Another song about guns and drinking and smokin great seems to be a recurring theme on the record. You know what else is a recurring theme, but White Castle the. Castle Castle mentioned five times on this album as it should be on almost every album I would agree. There's actually a really great article that I'll put. Lincoln his show notes to where they interviewed the president of White. Castle, Oh, it's been ten or twelve years ago now, but said they interviewed him to talk about his connection, the company's connection to the Beastie Boys, and whether or not they had ever reached out and said Hey, you know they mentioned you allot you guys giving them free White Castle. Are You doing anything and? It's it's a fascinating article into how? Corp Tian's were. Are they. Getting anything for free. Doesn't sound like it. Is they're pretty. They're pretty against the corporate sponsorship sponsorship voice. Yeah, you know who's not against corporate sponsorships. Audio Judo. Because if I could get a white castle sponsorship. I had to white castles for lunch today. ooh, for we recorded. Heather buys the frozen white castles and they are delicious. Right they're not at all kangaroo meat. which is that was always the. Site that was always the the. The rumor that they were kangaroo when I was a kid like grown up Midwest. That they were kangaroo meat, but you know anything with like a hamburger with a hole in it couple of pickles. Grilled onion. Slices cheese. Right of there just. You know, grab a sack of White Castle so good right? Anyway the beats I love the beats on the son's. Yeah, besides the the low rider stuff seems like One of them also got into trouble at school. You listen to the lyrics, but he seems unaffected. By. How much trouble easing yeah I also noticed that that much like the rest of us at this particular age. They don't seem to have any brand loyalty in the song. He is drinking a miller. a budweiser and Heineken and he's also been drinking old crow, which is pretty disgusting in his own. Discussing, but like us. You know I was satisfied with old crow back then. Get Old Milwaukee. Blue, ribbon or other should he beers? Or Bush light. And catch a buzz, but maybe not yellow boulder us nothing wrong with that maybe not old crow, but whatever the also there's a line and song that he refers to went to the bathroom and ruled me up a wooller. Joint that has been laced with crack or some other sub, so good Lord, so that sounds not so good. See Ruler Sounds Fun, but then you're like. Laced Crack Maguire Oh, yeah! It just took that next level. A wooller who ruler? I'm guessing that the next song. Is Kyle's favorites on Oh. Yes, it certainly is. I figured. Scouts, favorite song girls. What does it sound like? It's my. Say! season. Long. People. That was. Just the. Jockey Mike D to my dismay. That was my response to so many questions in in high school. I lost track and people started to get mad at me. Where's the at and Mike D to my dismay? What. People didn't like over there. No people do not like it when you burn something into the ground so hard that nothing will ever grow their again kind of beating a dead horse, so to speak pretty much. Yeah, so the song is a huge huge favourite for crowds, yes. As evidenced by the fact that every time I hear it i. hear everyone singing along to it. But they were not particularly proud of it new nor proud of its popularity. And how people didn't realize that this was the parody and satire, yes, according to Rick, Rubin in the An ad rock wrote the song a train ride back to DC. They wrote it to the rhythm of the Eisley Brothers Song Shout, which you can obviously here and there And they just wrote really offensive stupidly. Mission Accomplished Michigan. And is a testament to them, not liking this so much. They only ever performed the song live one time It really is like for some reason. This song became super memorable on here I. Remember. This was the first beastie boys song I ever heard. And I didn't I didn't the Beastie boys at the time, but I remember hearing it and be like Oh. That's kind of fun you know, and then later on I was like Oh. No, if you actually listen to that song, it's Kennedy Shitty actually. It's Kinda Kinda, real shitty two women. I was like man, the beastie boy suck their real shitty to women, and then you have to kind of like look even deeper and you're like. Oh! No not really they've kind of started to to apologize. And and they commenced for that Kinda Shit interview. At Rock Gag gave in nineteen, ninety four, he said We get a Lotta Shit things that were done at those times and in a Lotta ways I think rightfully so it's really scary when you do something as goof that then four million people take for real girls to do. Do the dishes cool dude. No, that really wasn't the idea, so you know that I take a Lotta crap. Yeah yet. The song would be sampled by eazy e NWEA. Public Enemy Ice Cube Eminem so it gets very difficult to disown something that does that well. Yeah, and the reputation whether deserved or not is difficult to shed. Yeah, as they encountered for many many years, it's A. It's troubling song. It really is like and it's what sucks to is. It's so much fun, and it's like you said they play it in a play to rile up crowds because its UPTEMPO and it's fast, and everybody recognizes the lear listening to the Leeriness. No don't please don't do this. We're GONNA play it at the ballgame. One of my favorite stories though this song went quiet for several years, right, you know I, mean it kind of stayed underneath the consciousness of society, but it wasn't really popular anything, and then in two thousand thirteen. A company called Goldie blocks, which is a a company who they actively create toys and educational things for to get girls into stem science technology engineering mathematics. They're a pretty good company. They make some really cool toys. They took this song and they made a commercial with a huge role group. Goldberg machine that these three girls had built that you know, has all these fun little elements to it, and they took a lot of very early pink and Frilly Toys. That are aimed at girls and reappropriated them to be Pieces in this Rube Goldberg Machine. And then they took it and they re made. They remixed song, or they covered this song. They claim it's a parody that it has very empowering lyrics for young women. Oh like. I I should more of them down, but like there's a part where they say you know. Girls are going to develop the next rocket in the next APP and it's. It's a very empowering version of this song. and. Unfortunately, it had a lot of issues so apparently the beastie boys. This was after A. Yaochun died and in his will. He had specifically said I. Don't want our music used for any commercial purposes right now. In the US, there's no legal standing for that will to prevent that from happening. It's just a request in other countries, there are but not in the US, but anyways they the beastie boys had their lawyers send. Goldie blocks a letter now this is there so much confusion about this and I'm going to try to do my best to keep this clear The beastie boys had their lawyers. Send goldilocks a letter that said hey look. We're curious to know why you chose to use this song without our permission why you chose to do it the way that you did it. and you didn't come to US first and try to get some type of clearance or permission before you did this. Glow Gobi blocks claimed that it was a parody song because they had they had. Re recorded the instrumentals. so it was not sampled or copied or anything from the BEASTIE. Boys and they had rewritten the lyrics in a way that could be considered parody. And in order to protect themselves, they immediately sued the Beastie boys then like two days of getting the letter, they had their lawyers filing a lawsuit against the Beastie. Boys saying you can't come after us. Now from a corporate standpoint, that's probably the right thing to do from a PR standpoint that blew up in their face episodes immediately. All these people were like Whoa. Wait a minute to beastie. Boys just sent you a letter. They didn't see or anything, and then you countersued them. Trying to say we can do screw you. WE'RE GONNA sue so it kind of floated around and every couple of weeks on the Internet. You'd see something new about it. That lawsuit was settled. Immediately afterwards the Beastie Boys Sued Goldie blocks and they said look. You did infringe on our copyrights because you didn't. You know he didn't change it enough for you to modify it enough without our and you use it without a permission. So what ended up happening was they settled out of court. When Goldie blocks published a letter, the basically said look. We did this because we're fans and we felt like it was a great chance to take something that you have admitted was sexist and Misogynist, and not who you are today, right and we took that and we reappropriated it in a positive light. Now where you know okay with what's happening right now, so we're going to change the. The song in the commercial and keep using the visuals for the commercial, and not your music, and they ended up sitting down and the settlement that they reached was that Goldie blocks would pay a million dollars to the charity of the Beastie Boys Choice, and they picked a charity that encourages young women to go into stem fields. Okay, so all in all ended up very positive. Happy ending you, yes, but super negative for both parties involved happening. But, when was that? I seem to remember twenty. Thirteen is on the commercial case. Twenty, six late two thousand sixteen was when they settled. Okay, so three or four years there. Yeah, I seem to remember something about that like around that time. I just every time I hear the song now though I think about that commercial, because I'm like it's a fun commercial, and it's it is not on Youtube with the Beastie boys tracking it, but you can find it on the Internet if you go. Look for it. Technically you know because they took it down. You can't find it anywhere, but it is still out there, so if you WANNA, watch it Kosh. Find It. Anybody can find it, it's. It's just youtube immediately takes down because of their automated copyright protection thing, but whatever that should bring that up Laura. Talking about girls, though because it is kind of an important. Like. You said they made the song then they can of regretted it and they didn't play or they didn't do anything for years. And then all of a sudden, it jumped out. Do your there. Any make a note of that couches said we're talking about girls. Make sure we have a note of that that clip out at one point. Kyle talking about girls. It happens occasionally. What's next on the next song is probably one of the beastie boys. Most famous songs now. Yeah, you're what what set aside that this record was probably mostly parody at which I get, this is the end all be all of party. It anthems the prototype of party anthems for everything that would come after it. What. So good rates and Guitar Solo Kerry King from slayer slayer. He was working on an album with Rick Rubin and he was like you know I kind of feel like this needs. some brought him over to play guitar on this and another track that will get to in a second such just like a rip right there in the middle. Way You being union anymore. They were recording reign in blood in. Yeah, nearby, said hey complaint on this. Oh! So this is the one though this is the track that I. think that they completely made it as a satire of Jock, Rock Party songs and even some. we might have reinforced certain values of some people in our audience when our own values were really actually totally different. there were tons of guys along to fight for your right. who were oblivious to the fact that it was a total goof on them? But it was the Party, Oh yeah party, anthem and proof that they never wanted to be taken at face value again. The last time they played it live was nineteen eighty-seven. The same year it was released. So, there's I mean. There you go, so I looked it up. And so there's fifty two weeks obviously nineteen eighty-seven seven yet. They're only eight number one albums for the whole year. This license to ill was obviously one of them The others were Bruce. Springsteen live nineteen, seventy five to eighty five, which is so weird I don't get that slippery when wet, by Bon Jovi Joshua tree by you to Whitney by Whitney Houston I. Guess, I guess it's by Whitney's borough. La Bamba by Los, lobos and the adjoining soundtrack bad by some. Who was that again I my make Kale Michael Jackson. writes a tunnel of love by Bruce springsteen again. And the dirty dancing soundtrack out of course now only one of those records were you demanding? Be played at every single party we went to, and it wasn't with Houston it. Was this one and a lot of it rested on this song so I got a story. Oh goody right so so nineteen is a little bit later, so would have been nineteen, eighty, eight, March nineteen, eighty eight. In aband- and were getting ready to play in a battle of the bands at my high school is a couple of bands setup in the gymnasium and more, we put together a good set, so it's basically audition for what band gets chosen to actually play at the dance. That's a couple of weeks later. Okay, so there's limited amounts of people but many judges. Not a lot of fans as it were not allowed students but more. Judges and judges are Kinda pulled from some select groups of the school, so we put together this great set of what I think is going to be great. You know put in Van Halen. Put in. You know stuff that people wanna hear this and we're tight sound really really good. We blast through fifteen minutes set and I'm thinking okay. They got this. This hands down. I was getting ready to go to see rush later that night. I was feeling good like it's good. It's a good night. Good Friday and another friend of ours who's in another band who eventually he and I would join forces and create a different band based on the backs of what I saw within the next few minutes so. So they they they're set up and I'm like Oh. We gotTa Watch. You gotTa Watch Dan's band play. And really okay cool and they came out and the first thing they did was this song and nailed to the wall, and within thirty seconds of them starting I started packing up my gear my, we've just lost and the why now we played great. It doesn't matter how good we play anymore. This just one everything because he went to the. He went to the base level. Party anthem to get every kid riled up and if they play that. We're done. Just start packing up your shit because it's over. And it was, it was in they not only the I mean they played it to perfection and Mike Okay and it was based on that that I went up to him and said we need. We need to put to bands together and start playing gigs, and that's what that's how we started getting gigs throughout cities were we were? Way Better together than we were separate, but it was all on the backs of the song because that's exactly what it did. Every kid had MTV every kid grew up at at that age seeing this video three or four times a day. And just being like Oh my God. That's awesome enlisted, and that's exactly. He played right into it, and like done done so good Dan. If you're listening still a great choice, I do have to say though I feel like head. They played I. WanNa dance with somebody by Whitney Houston instead I. Feel like you'd be in the same place if you think it's a banger. That's true or a so emotional. I could could have blasted that one out or something from dirty dancing. Brave tunnel of love but Huge Bruce Springsteen fans that are fifteen years old back then. YIKES! No sleep till Brooklyn no sleep till. It's another one of my favorite beastie boys. Yes, songs great metal riff last through sample of TNT by CDC. Guitar Solo. which seems remarkably out of place in the song rates, it again provided by Kerry King Yup. It's named after the title is a play on motor heads at no sleep till Hammersmith Sunglasses motorhead outright. Soak. Have probably written a song referencing every single of the five boroughs in New York, then I still think this is probably the most iconic and it is such A. It's such a great. It's a story song first of all. It's about them talking about being out on tour. And how such a slog and you have to work so hard, but they're still not gonNA rest until they get home to Brooklyn as a parody of Glam. Rock Arena Rock Stars. Stars of the day, which is doing the same thing which is great, because then you throw in the title is a riff on no sleep till Hammersmith at and it's a it's great at it. There's a lot of metal in this one, which is probably why I love the song as much as I do Y-. Is that the heavily into the metal? Aspect of it is there, so we have a side I? Do not have a clip of this. Should should've gotten a clip Nestle till Brooklyn. Sorry, take your finger off the button. Randy, don't you do it? I don't think there's a clip until the end tyranny, the last tram. Sorry you can, you can take a breather. You can take five. Get another beer when the next song I'm surprised that you didn't have Paul Revere Right. I thought about it. The eight Oh eight drum machine with the backwards rate look. What. It's genius. It is absolutely. Genius, the lyrics are fairly inconsequential. I mean literally, and they were playing around in the studio to and MC was like he would. If we record this eight Oh eight, drum machine on tape and then play the tape backwards and they're just like well. Let's try and you know. Everybody has said it's this absolute genius level you know Fain. He could hear it already. He already knew what he was going to sound like. He had to do it to prove it to everybody else so Mike details story said that backwards eight Oh eight. If I think it was actually go or run from run DMC. They was his idea to flip the tape really. Hail should flip the tape around so that Shit's backwards. Either that or we had it on backward any hurt it and he bugged out, and that's what he said Y'all have to do a story rhyme over that shit. Came in and started writing the ship with us. Either way, whoever's responsible for it? As one of the most important innovations in the history of modern like modern rap for share that backwards beat sound, and that the name Paul Revere has nothing to do with the colonial hero of the same name. No, it was. It is the name of. Was the name of the Horse Abattoirs. In case, you don't know, 'cause you this song. It's a fictitious story about how the Beastie boys met seth sort of in the old west. I guess you would say because they're supposed to be gunslingers, basically and bank robbers, but it doesn't matter. The story in a song is the drumbeat rate. That is the story. That is review the Horse Sure Yeah Okay Paul Revere the Horse. What that's from a play, too, isn't it? What's the name of somebody with a horse named Paul, revere? Should have made a note about the I. Don't know anyways. Yes, somebody knows somebody out there. Notice. You're listening, you know. Yeah, let us know. Hold it now hit it. This has so many freaking samples in it. Yeah, the riddled with them. Take me to Mardi Gras by Bob James. funky stuff by cool in the gang return of Leroy part one by the Jimmy Castor, bunch Lodhi by dougie fresh, and Slick Rick Christmas, rapid by Kurtis blow, drop the bomb by trouble funk. Let's get small by trouble funk. Time to get ill by the beastie boys. That's right. They sampled a song the heard yet. If you listen to his album from beginning to end Lottie Dod. Is was the first rap group. I ever listened to was Dougie fresh and the get fresh crew. ooh, that was the was the first rap album that actually had and that was on there. You know they don't cause trouble and they don't hurt. Just want you to know that. It's just a the typical life in the typical day in the life of the Beastie Boys, guns, drugs, chicks, and eating fast food tweet to me though that this is the first single from this album. It's an odd choice like that seems like a weird choice to me, but I guess it really does exemplify like. Hey, we're not doing punk and rock anymore. We're doing hip hop and. Rapping now, so which? Yes, they are doing oh. Yeah! They moved up. They moved up from old crow and now drinking thunderbird. Oh to step up. What's the word are over I believe Sunder Bird is the word and what's the price? Forty twice. That is. Nobody listening isn't going to get that reference that Oh no I'm not even GonNa okay if you understand what I'm referencing. visit if you understand the person that I'm referencing, and then you understand the commercial that that person is referencing, email me, kyle at audio judo dot com and let me know. The Countess went Meta I will give you I will give you some kind of a prize at t shirt or something, which he sure if you can tell me the. T! It is an audio judo shirt. Once we have them I will send one for free to somebody. Yeah, you should, because of that now you have to know the person and the thing the media that I'm referencing and then the person in media that they're reference to you. beat the quote one more time, please. What's the Word Thunderbird? What's the price forty twice? All right, good luck out there, everybody. Everybody's researching. Yeah, right? Yeah, you can look it up, but if you can do it without looking it up, we don't look it up. Or. Look it up whatever whatever. Brass Monkey. That funky monkey brass monkey to drink I didn't know that until I was doing research for this. Yeah, it has. It's referenced a few times throughout the record. And finally we got a whole song devoted to Ryan. It is is of course named after the homemade at the time. Alcoholic drink of the same name and here's how you make it, Ooh! He's got the recipe name of the Song Brass Monkey, usually, I the cocktail that consists of equal Aereo, equal parts of beer and orange juice and mixture of GIN, triple SEC Tequila, sour mix, great, true, choose or Rum Vodka and orange juice with without Galliano so it doesn't sound like the best that you. You lost me when you mixed a beer and orange juice. Yeah has not a look I wanNA see. Come back. The other way can tell you that right now. How difficult is it confirmed out of a microphone just? You all in the little. You got it all in there. Take it out of the pop filter here's But you did say you said or or so there's a second recipe for your which sounded a lot better. It was rum, and what rum vodka and orange juice with or without Galliano liqueur. That sounds considerably more Palette Ori. Trip, sect, Tequila, orange, juice, sour and grapefruit juice. Why do you need sour and grapefruit juice feel like one. Is GonNa take care of that, but. It's a good song. Apparently Dave Matthews did a cover of this back in ninety seven. I'm it's pretty good. Actually I haven't heard it. They strung it between too much and ants marching. Can Get up 'cause I hear. It's a I hear from Kyle. That is pretty good. Producer Andy says that's pretty close to Harvey Wall Bear. Is it really those are popular in the early eighties. The Harvey Wall Banger. Slow and low. samples eighth wonder by sugarhill gang and flip the switch by ECDC sugarhill gang, the original godfathers of rap and this is cover. Recorded by run DMC dicey, rusty out got brass monkey on the brain. It's not rum DMC. Run DMC. Oh, that would be a great cover. Band may just take a shot for the phrase that rugby. DNC every every song, but a different type out all I could get down on something like that. I sounds like a good thing to listen to slow slow and low. It's such it's an interesting song. It's got a funky tempo to it. It's got even know to describe it. It's a another Mike. Hip Hop Song for for lack of a better way to describe it, and it's a it's a good example of. What they would do in the future to again. Say I like it. Do you like the next sophomore? What time would that be? I believe it's time to get ill What's the time Randy? there. We go last song on. This album is time to get out. Apple. Pace. Data! With the Across. This song, not only do I think it's a great wrap up for this album because they take a bunch of samples that they used in other places on the album and use them here again. I think that it's a like a call to arms almost delaying. This is the song where they're saying to other hip hop artists. This is what we can do now. Do something better because that was kind of the game. That hip hop artists were playing in the in the eighties. Each other exactly we can do this now. Go beat it, and then we'll take what you did and make it even better. samples include I'm. GonNa. Love you just a little more bad by Barry. White, which there don't Hoon, the corner by CR custard pie by led Zeppelin. I Love Rock and roll by Joan. Jett the black arts nothing from nothing, Billy Preston Gucci Time by school. Mr Ed by Jay Livingston. Take the money and run by Steve. Miller, band flick of the switch by ACDC green acres by VIC. Missy Eddie Albert Ebor bore rocket in the pocket. The live version by Sharon the party scene by the Russell Brothers funky stuff. I cool in the gang and jam on the Groove by Ralph MacDonald US another one boogie on reggae woman is Stevie. Wonder was also in there that is. Is another thing that I found super difficult in researching this album? What's at every single source that would find like? Hey, here's all the same that we're used. You'd then go to the next one and it would be missing like three of them. Yeah, you're like Oh. We're those in there, but that have another one that you're like. Oh, where was that clear? They can identify them all. They do their best in. Someone's like I heard this one. And I think that's. You just pull out all the stops on the closer. Really just ramp it up to eleven, and that's exactly what they did. More references to brass monkey on this and Chivas Chivas Chivas and plenty of references to Classic Rock, which Villa research on that that all comes from Rick Rubin, so they were unfamiliar with almost all of that relays because they were punk is they didn't know any that classic stuff remain brought that all to the table interesting. Interesting which I love either way I love how they they interpolate verses. They used recreation verses from classic rock songs that the stones recorded, and just twist them a little bit and use them lyrics, but again like I said the lyrical phrasing has always been. What's really interesting me about rap music? Oh, definitely a good one! Yeah, and I definitely think like. I said this is kind of A. Call to arms. Other hip hop artists to say look. This is what we can do one up, so then we can try to one up you, but I think that it really sinks that home. Because the end of the song it fades out, and then it comes back with this drumbeat. That is totally plain. It has no singing over it. It has nothing over it right, and it's a perfect sample. It's just this drumbeat that comes back out of nowhere, and you're like why the hell is that there and then once you realize. Oh, they put that there, so other people can hear it sample it very easily. And then take it and build off of that I think that's honestly that's why that's I. couldn't find anybody that straight out said that, but that's why I think it's there I think it's they're so that other people can get a nice clean sample from it and then build off of it. It's a great idea, yeah! So that's that's a that's it. That's don't be a faggot. Sorry. Licensed to ill. That is Do want to wrap it up a little bit though because i. In a we're going to talk about forgiveness. Retribution for whether or not artists can actually be and should be forgiven for their past discretion, because we kind of live today we live in this sort of. Canceled culture where you know. An artist, will they since they're so connected to everybody through social media? You know they might say something or do something that they're like immediately. They regret it, but it's now out there and everyone in the world thought at the same time. and. They have no way to cancel that. Because at least you know in the late eighties when you know the Beastie, boys were doing this. They had the luxury I guess of time. Because when they did or said something, it took time for it. To to move its way outward for people to hear it for things to happen, and for them to be able to grow and mature and understand Oh. Maybe that wasn't a great idea. You know we should probably figure out how we can undo that how we can apologize for that how we can make it better right Like we said the original name of this album was going to be. Don't be a faggot. In a letter to time out magazine. Time Out New York, magazine in December, Nineteen Ninety, nine at rock, wrote I would like to formally apologize to the entire, gay and lesbian community for the shitty ignorant things. We said on our first record. there are no excuses, but time has healed their stupidity. We hope that you will accept this long overdue apology. I thought that was very interesting. I can't think of a lot of artists today that would have that eloquence to be able to actually sit down and write something themselves, and even when they do, they wouldn't ride like that. They would write a tweet. That's like hey, sorry about that. I deleted the earlier tweet cried you our. There'd be a facebook post or an instagram story. Story and it's like I think that it's it's more important that they grew and realized it than it is to get the apology out there as quick as possible but as far as like misogyny and sexism go as well. There's a book that just came out a couple of years ago called Beastie boy book, that is all the stories of them from the beginning, basically, it's a bunch of short stories, and they got other people to come in and right. Outsider a shallow. Bach can't. What is her first name? Kate Kate Shell Lombok thank you. She wrote a chapter in there about what happened to her. While she was with the Beastie boys in why she got kicked out. And how you know, she's okay with or I guess she's okay with it It has a really cool intro by amy. poehler which I would not thinking of the Beastie boys book is going to be introduced by Amy Poehler. But it's very cool, and she talks a lot about how grown and how they've changed, and how she as a fan, longtime fan had to deal with the sexism in the early days, and then kind of grew herself, and said you know. Hey, they were sexist, and now they've. They've matured, but I would hope after a career spanning thirty four years. You, you would be able to correct. The, wrong, exactly that you made it when times were different when things weren't necessarily, they weren't right, but they weren't frowned. Upon openly as they are now and I think the best indicator of that is. They realized early on that. Hey, are critics are saying this is bad? Our fans are saying this is bad. We need to do something about it right. But like I said it takes, it takes time years to shed that reputation. People just think of Beastie. Boys Party Band MCA had the lyrics ensure shot in one thousand, nine hundred four I want to say a little something. 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The Power of Music: Top Ten Bands You Should Be Listening To Right Now

The Hero Up Podcast with Jim Simcoe

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The Power of Music: Top Ten Bands You Should Be Listening To Right Now

"Hey guys, what's up? This is Jim. Welcome to the hero up Podcast. Hope you're doing great. Hope you're staying safe. Hope you're healthy and happy tonight's episode is all about music. I enlisted two of my good friends page and Jack to come in and answer the unanswerable question of what are the top 10 bands of all time. So this is about an hour and half long podcast. The first couple of minutes are basically us trying to get Jack to figure out how long like in so you may want to jump ahead. But hope you guys enjoy the show. I really do believe that music can be such a source of inspiration and comfort especially in uncertain times. So that's one of the reasons we wanted to record this and as always check out the website Jim Simcoe.com or follow me on Instagram for the latest and greatest things coming up. We got a lot of things coming up soon. So I hope you guys are all doing great. Let's get into the game show. All right, Jackie one I was logged in. All right the end start your video. Just as Jacks iPad there is a look at that guy. You got a haircut your how did you get your haircut? Oh, you live with a hairstylist. Yes, makes it are you you could get your haircut too, but it might not turn out like that. I think I'm going to let the girls like no joke. I actually think I'm gonna let them give you a mohawk tomorrow. They've been like dying to you and Derek why back we'll have matching mole. I know that's the yeah. I like the people. I know who have mohawks. I'm kind of like like more than I am and I don't know the mullet gym. That's a big baby seen it looking at Jack. It's kind of like a mullet right now. I look like a a teenage version of myself gotta trim up the sides a little and you'll be good. Yeah. I bought a razor A Flock of Seagulls going on in Iraq. Yeah, but headphones on I'm not sure I want the flag us both Buck. I think I'm trying to avoid the Flock of Seagulls. Look, I'm not doing a good job. It's not the audio wage, huh? Huh? What what Jack say what the audio is fine. The problem is the video cuz we can see you. Yeah. How so how this is going to work Jim? Are you recording like currently? Yeah, it's recording currently. So Jack with his shirt off right now is on film which is great. So I'm gonna have to do some serious editing Lany on you said yeah, I'll say start and we'll go and you're just going to dump the entire thing on Instagram tomorrow morning first thing Instagram. I hadn't thought of Instagram. Thank you. That's a good job. I was just going to do YouTube, but I think we'll do the shot of Just Jack with his shirt off. I think that's then that's where are you know, let's get let's get going. This is gonna be super weird to see how this goes a broad topic. Yeah, you think a bit? Hey everybody Welcome to the hero up Podcast. This is Jim Simcoe. And I'm joined today with two of my best friends two guys. I love I would probably give a kidney to possibly I'm not sure if a kidney is that the one where you have two of them that deliver I would do this one more had two of them. I keep one. What I'm going to do is alphabetically Jack marshak a man would thank you guys for being here today. Hello Jim. Thank you to be the most polite I've ever going to be around. Hopefully. Why don't you tell everybody about yourself Jack you want to go first? Well, I've been but first first overthinkers during a swimming pool together. That's right. That's how long we known each other like fifteen years. You actually did meet in a swimming pool while we were holding each other up during a men's Retreat. Yes, and we had our clothes on them. Yep, this is true in fifteen years. I am a chiropractor and a sperm guitarist. Oh good God. Congratulations and a Malay Mo we met through jack. Yeah. I don't know. And five years ago something like that and we have like diametrically opposite beliefs and fandom when it comes to sports. I'm I'm East Coast Patriots Europe born in Hawaii, which means you're all fucked up like you'd like the Steelers. Yeah, then like you like the LA to like you're just like kind of all over the place. So I took over basketball team my cousin plays for so I just found around whatever like he's name dropping his cousin already. We've been on this thing for 1-minute have like zero loyalty to NBA team. So what's causing his name is Michael Jordan. Yes, you can see the resemblance. Yeah, you know Luke Walton great wonderful guy. But yeah, no, you know the first time I interact with you Jim was off my my wife baked a cake for your daughter's birthday party. That's right. Yeah. I was trying to get into the baking business. Yeah, we're making a cake for some of the like wage. And we buried in jackets on to you know, those people that we know Sandy Hill is some of their friends they sell. Oh my God, that's right. That's so cool. It's so it's so crazy how like that stuff just kind of happens and then a like be like not talking you can not talk to each other for a couple of months and then just like back to normal. Yeah. You have such history sad. That's awesome right on. Okay, that's how we met and that's how I met a mom's wife to the first time. Was it in a pool where you guys were holding each other up to answer delivered a birthday cake to Moonlight Beach. I like how the animal has his friends from his wife's effort. I like that dude. She put together everything for me pretty much. It's awesome. That's awesome. All right, so tonight our topic is Top 10 bands of all time and why you should care. So obviously since we're in the middle of this Global pandemic You you you have to soothe your soul and figure out ways to take care of yourself one way or the other and I think music is a huge piece of it. We've all talked about music a thousand times. But now we are finally going to do it. We're finally going to figure out the top ten bands of all time. I'm hoping that we're all still friends after this not sure if we will be cuz I feel like you guys have some erroneous app and some of your in some of your list I can feel it already. But but like for me personally, I mean I think music is such an important part of of life and you know allows us to connect in bond and all that other stuff and my goal would on this would be it's like for all of our listeners all five of the listeners cuz now I'm expecting both of your mom's to listen to this this month that we maybe introduce them to some music that they either don't know of or weren't aware of like a certain how a certain band is whatever and maybe will inspire people to listen to more music because authors I believe music is a you know, a huge piece of life. So but before we start and get into the list, I want to hear from each one of you guys so tell me about and I want you to tell me as melodramatic as possible. Tell me about a time when music either changed your life or got you through something in your life and you want a dog. Sure. Sure. Yeah, I I don't know like so I grew up in Hawaii. We're lucky your last name. Yeah, I mean horny right like yeah rough up again head but one of the things you don't have noise, you don't have like to speak proper bands coming to to see a culture all the time. So what we would get is tons of like reggae shows and like you have all you all you listeners reggae music basically and I just remember that like the first concert that I took it to that. I really recognized as a concert was Jimmy Cliff and it was out of like a local high school down in Kahului, and it was just like is this like a amazing experience? It might might like my family and everything and was like outside and I remember Jimmy Cliff coming on stage. It's just like just kind of like blew my mind and I was like an awkward, uh, like Middle School. Will I forget I think I was like six grade or something like that. That was your first show. I believe it was my first show that I kind of realized when the cops right? I might have made. Before that but this is the one that actually like, you know, I actually went to a show and it was great. It was amazing. Like I knew a few of his songs and ever since that I've been you know, Was that but I never got it. I got a t-shirt from there, you know radical like tie-dye T-shirt Jimmy Cliff concert and I wore that thing and like you probably still wear it. I I wish I still had this you probably still fit in it. I know you bastard those awkward years still like a fat little kid, you know, you were fat kid. In fact, yeah. You were not were you really yeah. I was it was really awkward time for me like sixth seventh eighth grade. So I was like, I had a lot of like, you know issues and so like through Thursday sure. I remember going to school that are you sure, you know, I just got like tons of luck in a t-shirt. So, you know, it's very formative contacts me cool cool off the one guy. Who's how old are you? 4646 so you're basically leaner more cut and more ripped now than you were when you were a kid that seems unfair for the rest of us. Pray. Play Boomer Jack. What about you? Did you know I think it was probably for me just more of an Anthem of like high school and early college and growing up in La I had the opportunity to go to tons of live shows, you know, and they they were all age shows. Right? So like speaking of like first concert for my first concert was Van Halen, you know my God at The Forum, you know, and I was thirteen years old. I went with like my cousin and my best friend and it was just blaring loud like so loud. That's all I can remember is like taking three or four songs into the game. Or even realize what song was on and then like getting a T-shirt concert T-shirt going to school on Monday morning and be yeah, I went to see Van Halen. You know, I'm like the the last thing ever wait or was it you remember which was why the chewier? Yeah, but make Nineteen Eighty-Four. Oh, okay. I saw I saw that's cool. That's super cool then and then from there, I'd love to going to live shows that was probably mostly from musically because what we had vinyl and we had cassette decks, you know, so for young listeners, you'll have to look that up and what those two things are We're Not Gonna explain it now write albums. So from there, I just kind of like started searching out shows, you know, and I remember I think my second show went to the the ex with Like a band called The Dickies and then a little known band Jane's Addiction. Yeah, I remember that type of music. That's awesome. That's all just kind of got me through high school. Yeah. Yeah. I my very first show was my very first concert was yes, I remember the band Yes No Doubt and it was a great show. Remember it being like a this crazy light show and it really wasn't like my kind of music. But my friend at the time had like a ticket and he's like, hey, do you want to come with me and my mom and so I went with like my friend, you know, I came I think was John. And his mom and yeah, it was I mean, it was awesome. It was crazy. But I think of like when I think I like music times music off, They're like the very first time I had knee surgery. I remember being back at college and this is like September 91, I think and blood sugar sex Magik. It just came out Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I remember that like I had to do all these knee exercises because back in those days like Physical Therapy you had to do a lot of it on your own, you know, you didn't like go to a place or at least I didn't at my college so Sit in my room and I would blast the chili peppers and do like all my exercise and I would be in like so much pain and so much like like my whole like my whole body would hurt and so like any time I hear blood sugar sex Magik like the actual song I think of like sitting on my desk in my in my dorm by myself, like basically like crying cuz I heard so much while I was doing like leg raises who it's a trip. It's just like your trip how you should think of that stuff, you know, like back into those places and you live right like Jane's Addiction. I hear that bass line from what's that song Summertime rolls, and I just remember being like dorm room in college and just turning it up to ten and just blasting it, you know, and it totally obviously sober and you know and not doing anything course. Yeah, no drugs. No less kids off drugs. I was living in Hawaii. I was I was going to college in Hawaii and I remember that album came out going to jelly rack jellies and getting the collage. And going wow, the Chili Peppers really blew it on this album. And then and then I listen to it, you know, this is going to come back right when we do our list. I can effectively mute you you know this. Yeah, you know, then you fell in love with it. I always relate that back to living in Hawaii, you know, am I the only who didn't live in Hawaii? I don't get it like a man cave don't know podcast Judah Boston. That was the first time I ever heard. The Chili Peppers was blood sugar sex Magik like I heard of them but like I like they were like on the rotation was breaking the girl, you know that they are pretty good like that, but I don't know off. The first one I heard was Mother's Milk like right when I when I got to college cuz I didn't I didn't know anything about them in high school. I didn't and freshman year. I you know found like Nirvana and the Chili Peppers kind of in the same thing and Nirvana was like great but they weren't like my they weren't totally my speed. They still have that punk element to him which you know is not like you're not my deal. But yeah the first time I heard the Chili Peppers, I was just like who the fuck of these guys. This is like mother's milk was awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I like everything about it off. Okay. So let's get it. Let's get into our into our list here. So I sent you guys over some of this stuff. But so I want to discuss before minutes, huh? Like 20 minutes ago said yes, 20 minutes ago. Yes, do you mean that's actually I actually wrote down an agenda which is that's pretty good compressor. So here's the here's some ideas on criteria. I want you guys to you know, fill in what you think. So to be the one of the top ten bands of all time. Let's talk about like, what's the criteria? Like, what do you think they need to do to be the top ten band can't you just be like dead? One awesome album like Flock of Seagulls, like you mentioned before like It's gotta be like gotta have a little bit of staying power right you guys agree. Or they have to initiate a whole movement music right? Like give me an example. It can be a style like Nirvana for instance right when bleach came out there a little known band but they they were like at the Forefront of the whole grunge movement. Would you put them in? So how many albums do they had they had bleach nevermind in utero that it have anything else that unplugged we unplugged one, right? Okay. So February for yeah for for me think about it, but how much affected they have on the music world through those wage albums though. I mean, I think that's a good criteria for me is like like you I mean if you put out one album and change the whole face of music kind of I mean honestly changing but at least, you know start a dead. You've actually just referring to and I'm I'm totally okay with that it it seems like you have to I would have to be massive though. If all you did is when it would have to be a massive kind of like you think can you think of anybody who did one unbelievable album, but you're like you just can't give them the nod to get em in your top ten. Is there anybody where you're like, they were closed but you'd like took them out at the last second. There's one band that I took it out that I'll say that when I say you guys going to be like you're crazy. But so I'll say it later but is there any way you can think of that you're like like the for me and you guys might totally disagree with this but The Strokes kind of come to mind for me cuz they're day going and what was that ninety nine or two thousand or something so good. Like I I listen to em at all not just blows my mind how like I feel like every song Islands so good and it's so just like like really represented that time using and created this whole thing like all these bands like Kings of Leon and like Seventeen other bands came out there were just like them right but then they're second. Is okay and then system is kind of tapered off so I wouldn't really like I thought about them to the list, but I wouldn't necessarily put them on the list interesting. Okay? Cool Jack. What about you got anybody? Now no one of the part Just Jack so one of the parts of a podcast is that you talk a little bit more just in yes or no answers. No, I'm thinking of a lot of there's a lot of bands that that had a library of music prior to being famous to walk right and then they finally broke through like give me an example. Cuz that's a good that's a good that's a good point. Like so are there bands where like they had a couple, you know, okay albums and they just killed it on one of the you know, the next one when like the third one. I'm trying to think back like the great. I mean like Led Zeppelin. I mean were they out of the gates the greatest band of all time or did it it took to like Led Zeppelin 4 or how you saying? Yes. Got everything greatest know you're you're right before I think was their biggest hit but they were pretty they were pretty big. Yeah, that's true. But like right I know like Five albums before like document came out, right and the world isn't then, you know, and then green was after that and they just suddenly were like the biggest band in the world, but they had excellent albums leading into that, you know a bunch of college students at hurry, but you know, yeah that's actually peppers. I mean like they had Truman Show. Yeah. Yeah and Thursday. She'll blood sugar sex Magik until they started like launching into big scary. Yeah commercially. That's when they that's when they hit smoke started it right with ya kind of like wage. They had like freaky styley was good. And then the first album they had, you know, some some play with it, but not they weren't going, you know wasn't going gangbusters for them. Just yet. Okay, so I think I bring this to the next point is like so the catalog of it, right? So the one knock you would I would have on Nirvana is that your only have four albums, right? There's not there's not a huge catalogue and it's really three albums because the third the fourth one is really the acoustic different versions of this of the same stuff. So so I guess my issue with that app. Is that like it's not like Nirvana has three great albums and then faded off and made crappy music after that and like three or four amazing albums into the guy dies off. Yeah, like I think that's still qualifies them. I mean you can't really knock them for body of work if their life actually expires, you know, like like Jimi Hendrix, you know, like he threw off my list and he's amazing, but he doesn't have time to album cuz you know like yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. Okay. So here's the here's the other. The other thing I thought of is like where can you listen to them? So there's I mean he made my list but all going to but so where can you listen? Can you listen to him at work? Can you listen to him with your kids when you working out in a library while you're driving at an event blah blah blah and so like someone who's on my list is Tupac, but you can't listen to them hardly anywhere like you can't listen to one of your kids like in a library. You're not going to hear me in a coffee shop. You know what I mean? Like you just like not going to hear them in 50 places dead. Just like you just can't so that was one of the things I thought like, okay, so like, you know, like Led Zeppelin to your to your example, like you can kind of hear them wherever life it's not like a although. I don't know if you can really hear him when you're working out like can you really work out to like Led Zeppelin 4 Not really, not really. Not really. No, but I mean as an adult like we're very limited to our you know time. We're listening to music, right? Yeah, you get you get that time yourself while you're maybe working out or going for a run or something, but I think music it. It has its place in time. Like I'm not a huge hip hop fan. But I like I like to listen to you know, or or rap. You might like to listen to Snoop Dogg when I thought you know, it's a nice pay for me listening to that. You know, you're like every every middle-aged white man stereotype so great, which is so funny cuz I like that's New Prague when I run but it's like, oh my God, I feel like such an idiot doing it, but I'll listen to certain types of music if I'm running but I won't listen to Nirvana while I go for a run. Fall asleep while you're reading. Yeah, I mean, we're kind of music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean for me it's like I kind of want them to I want whoever's in my top ten to be I want to be able to hear him a bunch of different places and not just not just like a couple places. I don't know why I'm not even saying it's right. I just I just but there's different types of music. Do you listen to Bob Marley in certain situations? And you're going to listen to you know, the remote off in another. Well, you're not going to listen you don't you know, who the Ramones are. Hm. I've heard of them might listen to them at a different situation. Yeah, here's what here's the other thing. I would add to that as long as three. We're all bands of young kids. Excellent like the are opportunities for listening to music are like way different than like a like a twenty five years. Yeah like Jack's right? Like we don't have I don't have a lot of opportunities to listen to music that I swear words in it. So that eliminates a lot of music from my limit long. Does it eliminates a lot? You know? Yeah. That's a big one. Not exactly a wide swath of know but Minutes a good that's a good point. Here's my other thought. What do you think about this? I feel like for them to be for someone to be on the list. They have to have a couple is just deep Anthem songs, like just go to Anthem songs that it when it comes on. You're just like, all right. I'm just listening to the song like makes you want to run out and do something, you know run around or whatever just gets you completely amped up like to me they have to have that if they don't have that then they're just basically background music, but that's my opinion. What do you guys think? I've stumped them both. Neither. One of them is I don't necessarily agree cuz there's bands that I think are like all-time great bands that I probably couldn't name more than 2 songs. I mean, I'm not the type of person that memorizes all the words to songs are the titles of some animal probably does but labels only got four he only has four kids so he's got tons of free time and tons of time off but there's I mean like bands that I would say that that bring up certain memories and Nostalgia and when you put them on like just get that get the juices going dead, but they don't necessarily not like an Anthem tripe Give me Give an example of somebody like that. Like the Beastie Boys. I mean would you say the Beastie Boys while Anthem type I mean except for like fight for your right to party No, Sleep till Brooklyn She's Crafty, but I was thinking more like Eye of the Tiger. You know, I'm thinking of you Jim got it. Got it Rock of the Rocky theme. Whoever did that song I am who did it survivor? Oh they did. I fire they did Eye of the Tiger because you know, I try I told you this I met the guy who wrote a song. Yeah. He showed up in like gave you this. Yeah. I was working at I was working. I was doing real estate and he walked into this real estate office right by Seaside Market one day with this with his like wife guy and his like mid 50s at the time is by ten years ago and he had like leather pants on and this like Silk shirt unbuttoned down his chest had a bunch of jewelry and you're like it broke off. Yeah, and then I got the same shirt. I still remember like this bright yellow shirt and his wife was kind of dressed like a rocker. And so I was like he was looking for a house and I was like we start talking and I'm like, well, what do you do and he's like, oh a musician and like, oh, you know, have you done anything? I would know and he goes, yeah, you know, I'm in the Band. I started a band called Survivor. Have you ever heard of us? And I was like Survivor. I'm like so you get out of the younger. He's like, yeah, I wrote that song and I pulled out my iPad now, I happen my iPod member iPods. So I open my iPad iPod and I show them I'm like, I just listened to your song like at the gym today. So like yeah, I know. I know your song he was super cool super super cool total one-hit wonder but yeah, he was awesome Crystal where they want. There's no other survivors if you can name off the top your head wait. They did one from the next from the next Rocky right wasn't it? They did either tiger and then they did something else but no, I don't think after that play Kenny Loggins like cornered the Market On The Edge movie theme music. He did a good job. He did not make my list. He might have made Jack's list, but not make mine and my last thought before we get into a list here is that took my personal belief that whoever we have on this list. They need to be scarred up. They need to have gone through some shit in their life. I don't want a pretty boy on there like, you know, not that I would ever put his music on there. But like Justin Bieber right like nothing's ever happened to that kid. He You know, but lately he looks like she sleeps in the sewer. It looks terribly looks like something terrible has happened to him. He does suck. But then you see how he's dressed and he's wearing like $2,000 like Game of Thrones sneakers. Yeah. I mean like I want my dudes to have. Yeah. I want the band to have like some scars have been through some thought maybe some break up some drug addictions or whatever and I don't even know why but maybe because like, I feel like if I've been through some of that stuff, I want them to have gone through it. So this are we supposed to be including bands that we think are on a wait list or bands. We thinks our know we're about to rip through. We're about to rip through each one of our list and you have to you have to say the band. And you have to explain why you think they have to be on the list and then we're going to we're going to we're going to review it. So how do you want to do this? So we just do like 5 each and we'll start we might have a lot of common Banja we might okay. That's a good point. That's a good point. We have a common band we can just say, okay. I have that band too. And here's why they cross each other out. It's like scattegories. So if you have the same pan, you don't get off know maybe they get more points that way and then jacked you want to you take a notes. Do you want to take notes? We get our top ten. I don't know if you can believe it. I do not have a pen. I was going to say he's the most organized out of all of us. So all right, I'll do it. Hold on. Let me see make sure you did. I got a pen Jim and you want me to say you do. All right. All right so able yeah you go first, dude. All right will be decide. So I was like, I kind of felt like I I I I was just spitting out like the ten most influential bands on my life and generally to music in general. So I feel like a lot of these are dead. I'm like obviously, you know kind of thing. I don't have a ton of like leeches on here, but I also went I was as I was writing I went Way Beyond ten I got like twenty-five or something still sort of started narrowing like scaling it back. But I mean like my list starts and this isn't a band it's a dog person, but I cleared that first and yeah, we we cleared that to our records committee and the edge corporate to make sure we can set the people for the 4th at 4 for the record. Yes. That is off. Also if the first guy threw down was Bob Dylan who is amazing and one of the greatest and like like talking about bodies work off right to have just the the level of incredible songs Just year in and year out and still being you know acted today, but like you go back It's tough, you know early sixties and but he started early sixties. Yeah, he was Nineteen sixty-two. I want to say it. Was this for example, how how many how many albums you think he's got out 30 25-35. Oh, okay. I think it's north of 30. Does he he had like I want to say like 11:12 or albums just in the sixties, like he he had two year like and I think it's like 67 there was like two albums that he ever came out. So I think it was maybe by a by seventy years up to like eight or nine albums. I mean the guy was prolific and then he kept going all through the seventies and she's like and and and it's crazy cuz like you think about like a zombie on these things like Highway sixty-one revisited, you know, Free Will involved like just like tons of really good albums tons of really good songs and then like his career like took a dive and he had a couple of crappy albums that no one's no one talks about God. And in seventy-three comes out with blood on the tracks right like these killings done. Whatever. You said just terrible think a lot of the trucks. You can make a case as being it's gray album. Right? Like I mean Tangled Up In Blue is just one of the one of the best song. What's your what's your go-to best built Dylan song of all time and Tangled Up in blues up their home for me for sure. I'll a wide. I mean, it's personally to me. It's one of the first songs I learned on guitar and it just like, I don't know like I remember my dad listening to when I was a little kid and it made me really like I love songs that tell stories and and like this this like mature mentally long like Opus of a song and just goes on and on and on and tells us this incredible story and I just I don't know. I was just kind of like connected to that one off. And isn't one of your Seventeen kids named Dylan don't you have one one or two kids named Dylan to one spelled with a wireless taller than I nice home. All right. So Bob Dylan, I mean, I think you could yeah. Yeah definitely make a case for Bob Dylan being on the top ten. I mean, he's just yeah the Bodywork I mean here's my my counter-argument would be if we were if I was going to make it counter argument would be that all of his music behind it is this is seems to be in the same genre. Now, this is from someone. Who's not a Dylan song huge. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, but the Bodywork is there. I mean, he's the staying Powers there has he been through and survived a bunch of stuff. Yeah. He seems like he sure felt looks like he's definitely got some go to Anthony songs. You can kind of listen to the guy wherever like I say like, I I'm not a huge Dylan fan, but I know that when wage Play music. And you said hey, let's play some Dylan and we play it like it's actually pretty fun to play pretty good stuff. It's pretty good stuff. And yeah, he's like sort of a singular kind of category off. Um, but he did. I mean he was the guy that took for music and like he walked out on stage with his, you know, Fender Stratocaster and like everybody got pissed off cuz like somebody was blending folk music with you know, electric guitars and I keep he kind of evolved a lot of shit, you know, he went from taking all this like would he got three Light PC or stop and like turn it in into like like loud, you know rock and a band backing them up and stuff like that, you know, Yeah, I don't know I guess he's on Jack we think about what do you think about Mister Dillon? Well, this list is kind of funny because I'm thinking okay, you know, you can go down and lift these all time great bands, but am I like really a big fan of these bands like you can go downstairs Bob Dylan and the Beatles, you know cream Led Zeppelin like God you got these all time epic bands, but then I was kind of going down to my list of like who were I was almost like more from a perspective like my favorite bands. Yeah, cause that's where we yeah, that's where to find kind of a generation or divided like a point in my personal life as opposed to I mean, I know who the Rolling Stones of course, those bands are always going to make these like epic lists, but I mean, I've seen the stones and I've you know, And you can't deny that they're incredible, you know band that extremely talented and performers, but are they like at the top of my playlist? I mean, sometimes that's the whole point one of the best things about doing stuff like this is it's so fucking arbitrary. Yes thing so many genres of music. Yeah my food to listen to the stones remain in the mood to listen to Bob Marley dead and for you for Jack and for you someone who likes to over-think things and have everything be super regimented and like like like have an answer on everything. I was very excited to have you home partake in this because I believe it or not actually did not think about this. I just kind of did like a like a brain, you know, just I just threw it out of like fifteen bands. Give us give us one of yours. Let's do a round-robin will go like well each go. We'll each go one so you go. Okay. How about the Ramones? Okay, make the case. I'm writing this down. Oh, I was probably more bands than you know in terms of that the alternative rock Punk movement. I mean they've had what over 15 you probably have over full albums everything really but their their epic performers. I mean like a lot of the Bands I liked I enjoyed going to see live right off but that's a great criteria criteria. I didn't even think about that. Let me put that on that that's awesome and their live performance. It's sometimes like so much better than record it, you know, so I I would say that one of the best shows I've ever seen, you know was the Ramones. Yeah and your thoughts on the Ramones so I never saw him live. I feel like that's something like, you know my upgrade but I'm just on some really good bands live. That's one of them. I can honestly say I didn't really have an appreciation for them. And so I start hang out with Jack and And I still I still don't go that deep on them. But the songs that I hear sort of and starting to get it, you know, like I used to think how they just whatever would write three minute songs and just what they're taught them complicated and three cords, but now that I started to get like yeah, I I kind of get it. I don't know that I would put them on my list but I mean God they're influential. I didn't realize that many albums out either did I get free late late seventies, right? I mean they work a New York in the office, maybe like like 77 or something like that would tell me tell me a couple of their songs. I mean, there's so many I mean they're just give me give me like their type what you want to be a sedate. That's like they're all okay. Yes it did. I Want to Be Sedated, you know, what's wrong? Yep, okay, you know their music and then carried through into the 90s until you know. And yeah, they were they added fluid mm. Like so many bands cite them as influences. Yeah, right. So that's I think those are two things that may be in touch on like talking about criteria like, you know live performances and everything to do a report in like bands who have a good album, but they go on stage and they suck live like I don't know how long takes away from the and then they're like influencing of other other musicians like Ramones like who doesn't talk about the Ramones as an influence. It's funny. I mean ever I just didn't get the Ramones train at all. I liked those two songs that you mentioned Blitzkrieg, Bop and I want to be sitting I really liked I want to be sedated and in college was dating this girl who love their moms. She like loved them and it's all she listened to and I just didn't I didn't get it but to your point like you do hear so many other musicians talk about how awesome they were and how influential they were and I'm always like I'm like really those are the guys that everyone like gloves and so I'm a signature sound right you hear the Ramones and you know, it's the remotes like like wage is another one. That's another point on the criteria. That's a great. That's a good call Signature sound what's cool is that now that my kids are getting into music, you know Gavin's playing and he's like trying to put together a bunch of bands like Blitzkrieg. Bop was one of the first songs that you know, his first concert and play they're playing it's right off. That's great. Oh good 40 years old. Oh, yeah, that's true. I mean, it's got I mean that's some serious staying power the song forty years old and people are playing it. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to pull one off of my list here off and say the Beastie Boys. Oh, yeah. The Beastie Boys for me are they have to be in the top ten on my list because you know, they came out beginning of high school. It was three white, you know, three white dudes rapping at the time. I still yeah, they're white Jack the weather than you are if you can believe that and they just they played it. They just were unbelievable to me. They're actually one of the very first shows I went to I went to see them with Public Enemy on the license to El Toro and I didn't know who Public Enemy was and public enemy comes out when WS have like machine guns and they're like walking around blowing the whistles and we're sitting in the third row and I was like freaking out. I'm like, who are these guys? I'd seen like five black people in my life before then. I'm like, who are these guys why they Point guns at us? And how do we get out of this place? Cuz this seems crazy and then during that show this is back when the beasties were a little when they were like drinking on stage and people were dancing in cages and MCA a comb through me a beer which I remember that but yeah, I mean, I think the Beastie Boys like I feel like they they brought in a whole different level of Rap and hip-hop and they did something that no one really had no one had done before and I would argue that not a lot of people have done since outside of maybe Eminem where if you've got like just like a super white dude doing hip-hop. But what are your thoughts? Are these are the best selling hip hop ice pack? Yeah for now with Jack know aren't the Beastie Boys is the best-selling hip-hop band of all time. Like they've sold more records than any other. Yeah, they probably are I mean they're you know commercial. I mean, I think that they I think they're unique because they also kind of in like mid career did a complete flip out from when they went You know, they did License to Ill then they did Paul's Boutique and they did in from the outside and then it was and then check your head is like when they started getting a tiny bit more political and less wage like misogynistic. And then in the next one I came up with the next album. I think might have been I think it was communication and then just completely changed and they were like all about like Treating women in people respectfully and MCA had just gone to like Tibet to meditate with the Dalai Lama. And so like they just kind of did this whole thing where like they just kind of did a one-eighty page, you know, they're I've seen him in concert like ten times. They're insane in concert there, you know, just there's nothing about them or I'm like, okay, like, you know, these don't work they never I never got to see you in concert man. Oh no, this is where we're going to go through and like realize how how how horrible why my childhood. Yeah. That's how much how much snow did did you shovel snow in a while cuz I shoveled a lot of snow in Boston you're talking about the white stuff that's on the beach, right? Yeah, you get on-the-job card from the you know from your relatives in Pennsylvania device. Yeah, they're on I mean in in shows they're off. For me and like and they also and also they changed my life. Like I can you know, you could point that almost any point in my life and say like what was happening or you could play a song and you know, you play check your head and I'm immediately back or Rhode Island bartending and surfing all day long. You can play License to Ill and I'm freshman year in high school, you know, just about any of it. The funny thing I would say is that they their last couple albums. I didn't love like I liked them cuz they were they were the Beastie Boys, but I wasn't like wow, these are awesome. But the inter Intergalactic Planetary that one yeah, and then they had another one. What was it sabotage know I liked that one. But the one after that was like I think it was cologne Hello Nasty Intergalactic Planetary on it. Yeah. Yeah and then like sitting in like a sardine. Yeah. Yeah. Hello. Nasty. No sabotage. Was that check your head Right double check your head. Yeah. Yeah, I go back and listen to that one. Go to mount me to just there's there's tons of really good songs on that and it's like there's lyrics in there that I still use. It's like cool cooler than a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce. Like I said that I say that every day and everyone's like what are you talking about? But that you do like you say that a lot unformed. Here they're they're definitely a band that you can listen to with headphones and have equal enjoyment as seen them live. I mean, yeah, there's no separation there. Yeah, and I feel like they paved the way for like, you know guys like Eminem and just other you know, some other bands. Oh, I don't even know like I mean really Eminem and who else who what off white white boarding they crossed over a lot like I mean, I remember I saw my first time I saw a Beastie Boys they were opening for Run DMC. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So and then and there were just these guys my age Beastie Boys, you know, I kind of like them, you know, but then I loved him and then I saw him later on and they played I saw him play a show with the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Well, they were in a full band width. They didn't even have a DJ it was a drum kit guitars bass and they did a whole box set. That's cool, you know, so they were able to go from like rap like, you know, they started as they they they started out as a punk band. Yeah. Very Punk. Yeah their first their first like it wasn't even a commercial commercial was no was she's on it. Oh, I'm sorry not she's on it Cookie Puss, which is like a punk song about this life ice cream dessert. That's like sold at Carvel in Brooklyn and they like that was like their whole thing was like, oh about Cookie Puss. So I am well you're up dude. Well first before we move on from the B, but at least he was what is your what is the best Beastie Boys out? Goof and can you pick one? Right? It's got to be Licensed to Ill. But so when I was in college, I was in a band long as you guys know and our very first song every show that we did and we probably did. I don't know a hundred shows over and I mean not that much seventy shows over. The four years are very first show every night was No, Sleep till Brooklyn. That's how we started every show off and being, you know being going to school in New York. It was pretty apropos song. And so yeah for me, it's got to be Licensed to Ill. It's got to be the best album. What did I want to ask? Is that when you insured with Beyonce? Yeah. Sure. Yeah definitely hundred percent you guys. Pretty cozy on that for Jim those yeah, you know kind of must be about them. Where does Paul's Boutique fall in your list man? Cuz that's dude. It's close. It's a close second. I love Liza Silva like all the Iraqi government put that on more than any other album Still today. Yeah. So good. It's so good. I had my sophomore my sophomore year in college. I had I lived in a in a in a dorm with 625 other guys. We had like a like a double a single living area single in a double. So like in a bathroom again this long thing and I had the lyrics to every Paul's Boutique song on the walls, like so whatever room you went in had like painstakingly long magic marker written out the words to every song covering the entire wall. So I I think I had High Plains Drifter in my room. So like look and arrow looking down the barrel of a gun sort of a bit sort of against I'm getting paid getting rich like all down my wall and in the bathroom. I remember it was but we had like literally off cuz we all loved it so much our whole Suite had just Paul's Boutique lyrics capacity not normal. It's not only experienced wage. All right, let's move on from our three three favorite books and go to a mall. What do you got? I'm not sure. We're going to get through all ten tonight. We're not going to get the Walton give it 5 we'll go we'll go top long ago five. So give me your top five. So so I you know after you're talking through this some of my pics are not super excited. So I'm going to skip skip right to your home phone. GreatCall. I'm so pissed. I didn't think of that. I don't know what the edit this. So that was my idea. I wore my Sturgis and all of that money they like so I heard about them. I guess I was in college or knows I was not yet in college, but I heard about it because my brother was going to be older right here. He had a like a unremarkable single year Bolder and then felt fell out of college rather rapidly, but one of the Dead He did was he went to a fishbone show that sound like died and Bar in Boulder and wrote me a letter about it like and we were all like all this band which was like a craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. Like he's got her doing backflips on stage and everybody played different instruments and they were they were somebody off stage was like with throw their own saxophone trim across the stage in the middle of a song and then catch and start playing it and throw it back off stage and do more back flips and I was like this this sounds amazing. Like what are you talking about? And so I started getting into them and they just like, I mean, I didn't know what they were but I like I love like their energy right? It was just like incredible and I finally got to see him. I went to college in LA office team with the Palladium Hollywood Palladium, and they did a double billing with them and Primus. Yep. It was like these. Yeah this shame like these guys were so like the energy they brought to the stage was just like as soon as they gotta say, they're just in your face and just like bam and how long did they play for a long time? They they they play for a couple. Yeah. I mean, I think they would have played longer but private play like like an hour a half and they played and everybody was like ages Austin Thursday night, you know and just like they're like the level of dedication that they put into their music just like Blue, uh, I'm just blew my mind like the the amount of energy and just like like emotion that was in in their delivery of their music and their unique to like they're super unique in a they're like these black guys from no inner city in LA and they're playing like funk, you know, and like they're like the reverse beasties. They like the river species. They like with the other direction. Yeah dead. And just did something that they were amazing in their time and they you know, they're on the cusp of becoming something incredible and then they all kind of fell apart and it's like a tale of like disaster like, you know, their guitarist like goes like gets like kidnapped by it old or something like that. Yeah. He doesn't like join. I don't know that I don't either so yeah, that's right cuz he went he was got hooked up in some cult or something and then then he came back right? Well, they arrested grabbed him from it. Yeah, the two guys the bass player and what one of them went up and tried to visit him in the cold and then and then they like they like saying goodbye and then grabbed him and tried to throw them in the back of the car like and he was like fighting and Kicking and Screaming to be like tomorrow in the mouth and the grand back inside and then like he's gone and they drove home next day. I know they're they're getting arrested for attempted kidnapping birth. Like take them to court and it's just this really ugly like scene and Nicole think it's like spiraled out of control from their faith or you talk about Darkness do that's like yeah, that's definitely going through some stuff. They they also definitely when the seeing them live test. I mean, I remember the first time I saw them cuz they they were one of the Bands one of the nice things about going to school. I mean I went to school right outside New York city. So going in to see shows in New York was pretty pretty easy. And then some of the shows would be some of the Bands would come home come out to where we works really about 25 minutes outside the city and I remember seeing like the very first time I saw a fishbone I was struck by not just the energy but I struck by like the depth of South like I was like, I didn't know you could get that much sound. And make it like harmonious. Yeah, and I've always liked like The Temptations and Earth Wind and Fire and Stevie Wonder's like I knew about sound and like like that, but I had never heard it off like kind of wood that punk slash Funk slash Rock vibe to it. And I was just like, I remember like being at the show and be like, okay like that guys killing it on guitar back is killing it on the drums Angeles losing his mind saying and then there's like a saxophone and trumpet somewhere that I can't figure out where that's coming from and you're just enveloped and everything is awesome. Yeah, I love band with horns directions when they're going to do it. Well, unless like one of the many Nobody Does it? Well, yeah. Nobody has well, but these guys, I mean the problem is Horne Street, you always gotta pay the horn players. They got to travel with you and all this crap. Well, they figured it out. Like they all play like three or four instruments, you know, the fingers all play horns, you know and Angelo place every kind of sax there is out there and dirty dog. The plays that like pocket trumpet thing and it's just like they they just have this sound right that like no one has like they just they have this really like deep funky based. You know, it's kind of like a heavy metal rock guitar, but then they got a divorce you come in there and they just like, you know, although they did come out of that era of, you know, based in ska and emerging Punk and Thursday look at on go Boingo. I mean, they're horn section with signature. Yeah, and that was all that same era of the late eighties, you know? Yeah, that's true. That's that's like they teased by Jack radius. Where do you stand on fish bone? I think they're all time. I mean first time I saw him was in like 80 cash. I'd say probably about eighty eight in college. I saw him in a they played our Student Union at Cal State Northridge really like clear out all of like the tables and like moved the catering. Oh my God. And they played over the corner, you know, like four and it was like a $5 all-ages show, you know, the Student Union. I think we had a rented if we had a rank who's seen the the best shows at the best times. I think Jack was kicking the shit up on the bus and I went to school right outside New York City like so I don't have an excuse you have an excuse you grew up with freaking Hawaii, but like Jack's like oh, yeah. So the Chili Peppers in high school. No biggie. I've sought really come from that era like living again living like I I saw no doubt, you know, they they played our Student Union. Yeah, it's nice and they were an unknown band. You know, like how long did you go to college for it to see all these bands as like 140 for six months old, but you graduate soon got an honorary. What do you think about the first time you saw did you know about them before then? I did a little bit but it was one of those like hey, there's just you know, I had a buddy who was really into music and he's like, yeah, we should go, you know Friday night to go see this band off here. They come all out on the stage doing like they're, you know, black power salute, you know, and and then they just tear into it with like, you know, fifty people in the room, you know, Norwich think she was molesting a young lady on the Dance Floor, you know in the middle of the show and just craziness, you know, like Campbell said just and I don't think their energy it's just like, you know, we went and saw fish bone was the last year last year. I mean, I think Angela's like 65 now or something and the same energy as I saw them back in the eighties, you know, yeah. Yeah you talk about energy. I mean one thing that I love about a band was when they're on stage and you really like filled them just pouring everything they have on to the Dead. You know, like do you watch Angelo perform and the dude is wearing like this bright red suit, you know with all this crazy like collars and stuff and it's crazy. Dude is like drenched head to toe and sweat by like song three right features. He's got a shirt off like, you know two songs anyway, and it's just like just everything that he has in this in this is just like just leaves it all out there like those kind of bands. I feel like when you can see a show where like tell me if you give you this if you see a show where like you can't do anything else and you don't want to do anything else so you're not like messing with your phone or like oh I should go get a drink or I gotta go to the bathroom or thought. Why does this guy you don't want to miss any of it? Yeah, like you just like like the alternative like the opposite of that. I saw last year. I saw Matisyahu who You know, I don't know. I thought he was going to be awesome. I was like fully expecting it to be he was terrible. He didn't care about the crowd. He was like drinking on stage wasn't even facing, you know facing the crowd. He like dead completely completely mailed in the show and I was like, well you like ended up leaving early cuz it's like this just sucks. But you know fish bone like the times I've seen fish ones just like you as you're describing it like you just like locked in with the band the entire time. What do you think about salmos? You know, I think I'd obviously go with truth and soul just it's like hey Mom pause has a good song. Freddy's dead is dead best friend. That is just so good. Yeah, but you know, it's it's kind of a toss-up between that one and then they're like their first c p that came out with that had like ugly, you know, like yeah, it's yeah, it's kind of like five songs. Yeah. Sure so good, please. Oh God, it's so good. They also have like that. They have that signature sound like you could be anywhere and like if Freddy's Dead came on you'd be like That's very said. Well, that's Angela singing like, you know right away like this. Yeah, and they are jacking when I'm just looking down through the name of their albums. Oh, yeah, like what like which ones give a monkey a brain and he'll swear he's a center of the universe. I mean that's Or Jim chims badass Revenge. I mean that's pretty solid. Hijack pick one off your list. Should we go with like a a more of a conservative like Bob Marley and the Wailers? solid so that's always a go to Never Let You Down. Nope. I can't argue with that at all. He was the second one on Thursday is also I mean if you if you start from the beginning of this catalogue and go all the way to the end of this catalog. Yeah. No, he's kind of like you're dead. He's kind of like sorry Jack. I'm gonna use a sports reference here for a second. So just pretend you know what I'm talking about. It's kind of like Tom Brady. No, no. No, I've never say Tom Brady. Give me a break off. He's like the Scott. He's like the Scottie Pippen a music right like golf right just like he's going to give you he's going to give you 20 and 10 every night 20 points 10 rebounds every night. I just saw the whole way through doesn't really take that many nights off. It's just going to be like really really strong the whole way. Would you agree with that? I'm from Hawaii. So I'm a little bit biased wage. We go and no disrespect to Saudi tip in anyway, because I think he's an absolute badass. But I feel like it was your completely under selling Bob Marley dead give you not in any way doing Injustice because he's so influential. He's such a badass. All right. So who's the guy who you who do you compare him to suck port? Izzy Izzy like a Serena Williams where he's just destroying everybody or is he like, who is he? It's just like what actor what actor is he? Like I think he's like, he's like a Leonardo DiCaprio like everything. He's in his good like it's good. It's really good. Yeah, I'd say anything bad about him. He's like a Leo DiCaprio's. He's a he's a Brad Pitt kid, like you just crisis. It just crashes it. Yeah, he's just like killing it. Okay, it's back then fog and just you know drops, you know, how long you have to understand Jim or Jim grew up at some point about 7,000 miles from where you grew up. Yeah. It's actually true. We're actually we kind of we almost span the globe by one guy in Boston one guy in L. We make us between but when that goes what you go to album originally from Jamaica House know that yes, I do. What's your go-to album? Go to any any modeling. It's just anything. Yeah, the hello. Yeah. Hello. Hello. I'm waiting for you to say something. It's hard to single him out. I mean there really so many albums. But okay, Jack know unless you wouldn't go with Legend. No. And then I just need to know what the line that's the Easy Choice, right? So that's to me that's like a total mail it in a problem is Steve Miller's Greatest Hits home until emailing it in. I'm just saying. Yeah Legends. I love his Greatest Hits its greatest hits Greatest Hits. I'm a big fan of Foundations. One of my favorites. It's got kind of this. Yeah. This is pretty good Exodus. How about burning? So here's the thing with Bob Marley is like he started out with Peter Tosh and Bunny wailer. Yeah, right like the three like this. This is the pantheon of Reggae music are these things you do and they started it in like some like tricking like closet caved in Kingston Jamaica and their album burning. It's just like so wrong I think is that like their first or their second as I catch fire and burn it. It's just like so it's so And like go straight guy just like hit and hit the nerve and just I don't know this cat. They they rushed it kept going on. They definitely, definitely own genre. I mean, I was like, there's I mean Jimmy Cliff is awesome and some of the other, you know newer guys or whatever gray like but I think that they they just hit that zone Zhang. All right. So let's let's move on cuz I want to get us out of here in the next 20 minutes and which is going to go. So so these some of these new ones will be wrapped will be rapid fire. So I'm up I'm going to do is type in this in as we speak here. I'm going to do the obvious one for me, which is obviously as you guys can imagine Anthony John Chad. And flee we've been waiting for this moment all now you've all been waiting for this moment. You knew this was going to happen Red Hot Chili Peppers, obviously for me best band ever whoever's in a second place is miles and miles and miles and miles and miles below these guys. They got the cat. They have the catalog you could listen to them just about everywhere. They I would make sure that they have a go to Anthem song on every album. They've all been at death's door and back except for Chad actually. They're all scarred up seeing them live is unbelievable. I think I don't know if they're seen as influencers as much as you know to other people and other bands as wage I think in my head they would be but I don't know and then I think that the I would argue that they do have a signature signature sound but really only took John's in the band like I don't think if he's not in the band on the couple albums they did without him that the sound is super signature your thoughts. So yeah, what were those albums it he wasn't on you're talking about one hot minute page him and then all the earliest stuff. He was on the he was on he wasn't on. The first album cuz I was hell L who then died? Yeah. Well one like like their first three or four albums, like he was on a freaky styley, right? He was on previous Stanley. Yeah wage is John I think started on mother's milk. Oh, yeah, so he did Mother's Milk blood sugar everything after he he didn't do one hot minute. That's Dave Navarro from Jane's he did was wrong and then he didn't do dark Necessities. I think that's I'm sure I'm missing a couple a couple in there. I think he was on straight talk to Mark am wasn't here. Maybe he wasn't I think he was I'm not sure. I think he quit I think he'd quit on that tour cuz you know like he quits every time they go every time they're in Europe on tour of the dude quits so off they should stop going to tour doing tours in Europe with him. That's just yeah. Yeah. Jack as a guy who's seen them in concert and at the very beginning, what do you think? I think I've seen them every album. They've been out like hey God, I know that's great. I mean I've 6 I mean the first and that was like one of the first cassettes that was like stuck in my VW bus I you know in high school was just you know, their first album just played over and over and over and over and then when I finally got to go see them live just blew my mind off. I mean, they're just yeah, I mean they're they're one of their like number one where they on your list. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was waiting for I was Going to give you the honor of I know but I always tell anyone where they only your list ports. I think it's through live performance that totally supported them like yeah, I mean I've seen a yeah. It's on the first time and I think 80. The 88th and then saw them through all you know, when when the bar when they were testing Navarro out the band some in a little Club in LA and they all just warm ass from you know came out and played and no one knew who the guitarist was, but then you know, you saw his tattoos me like, okay, that's Dave Navarro and you know Simon Just Epic shows like choice on and played with the Beastie Boys in a live show at the Palladium. Oh my God, that must have been incredible just crazy performances. A man with a liner. Let's first date was a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert was nice dude pretty solid. Yeah. She had no idea that I was taken on her date, you know, but I took the chili peppers and she's like, yeah. Thanks. That was a fun. That was a fun night. I'm like that was a day today as a Chili Peppers more than a fun night. So I assumed that they were not on my list. I know I know and here's what that and I think the reason why is because I I only saw him once, you know, many calls it like a month old culture like actually receiving calls or anything you would have been Democrats. I'd follow Clues up and it was just like just super short set and it was impressive and so I didn't like Blow Me Away. Um, I I I love them in college and blood sugar sex Magik I think is an amazing album. I but I think like I I had one hockey game. I didn't like it. Yeah, that's fair didn't judge a band by you know, this experimental album where you get the weird guitars from the transmission off. That's so then like I like I know they've had hits but they sort of fell off a little bit. Yeah, and that's not to say that their quality just haven't really followed them that much but but yeah, I just haven't quite a kind of stuck with it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. That's that's that's totally fair. So you just need to delete my number from your contacts. I think this will probably be the last time we speak which is a shame cuz I think you're awesome. But I mean that's uh, yeah, they they I've seen them in New York and big places and then I saw him at that benefited belly-up which is you know, as you guys know super small. You know every every time I've seen them it's kind of like how you work with fish bone. Just like you just so locked in somebody could have let me on fire and I don't think I would have noticed that they were that good all the time and I and I love like they're I mean, they're I love their lyrics. I love Anthony's lyrics I love like he gets so like, you know, all the dude raps about our talks about is like California, like getting laid dolphins and sunshine and like his buddies and like like it just like for whatever reason it just completely speaks to both my inner child and my current job regular child that I am. So yeah, I love everything about them. I don't have any Red Hot Chili Peppers tattoos, which is odd, but and I don't think I'm gonna get any but that's a different story. All right, let's move on cuz I don't want to keep talking. I don't want to monopolize this International Red Hot Chili Peppers podcast, cuz that will be our next podcast. We will turn animal cuz I want to see if we get a job. One of these bands on all three of our lists cuz that would be huge. All right. All right. Well, Europe. All right. And we have thirteen minutes 13 minutes. I mean whoever you want, you know. Rap stuff like five bands rattle off like five up your list right off like five. Okay. So this is my sort of like my my not super interesting part of my list where I dropped like my dog in the Beatles. I put the stones on there and I put David Bowie on there. Okay, and if you're Tom Petty in there, too often, I think David boies the one that stands out to me as being particularly influential to me recently. I've always liked David Bowie but especially since he passed away. I realized of had a Resurgence in just like trying to really understand what he was all about. And what I dig about him is that like he's he did so much for such a long time that he had this image of being like this Glam God, you know, like I think a lot of people didn't really dig him because they have this like single like image of him being just this like whatever pretty boy but like he was the hardest working I knew Jake and not only did they like make his own music which was insane and creative and really really interesting. But he also was super influential on green other artists thought like he would go out and find guys like Iggy Pop, you know and write songs for them and then he found he found Iggy Pop. I don't know if he's found him, but they toured together and became super close and like a he kind of did a lot for 80 pop. So like he he wrote what their most famous song that they they have an office. He just was like you hear stories about him being involved with all these different artists and he really had a huge influence on music and generally and what do you what? What would you say to somebody like me? So I mean I obviously know David Bowie is I know some of his albums. I like modern love. I love that song. I love that album. Yeah, trying a girl. I love the same ground control to Major Tom. Like I love that song. So so I like his stuff. I don't I know but I'm not familiar with a lot of it. So if you were to say like hey, you don't know much about them, but your suggested what album do you start with? I like check out like maybe like Ziggy Stardust and we start Okay and like tons of good songs. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like he just strikes me somebody who's he evolved a ton to like he he started out. You know, I'm just doing just so many different things and wasn't showing the majority home. So yeah, but that's I guess that's sort of rounds on my list. They're all right pretty solid Jack. Give us give us like three or four. I'll give you the range. Give me a ring. No one foot rushed on there. Oh, I mean that was like whoa Elementary School 2112 moving pictures. That was yeah that was in college. I went through a huge rush. Like brought all their albums. Right? I taped them actually took it. Oh, yeah that the cassette the cassette. Yeah good police officer. Oh I missed that one, too. Okay one more oil going up. Wait, I did make your top end. Yeah, there are my yeah, I mean cuz they were very influential. I mean I again it was my high school experience of like meeting the band and hanging out and It was kind of like always every party, you know, yeah. Yeah. Wow, you know Kare ke rakh in L. I mean, they pretty much pushed Boingo Boingo, you know. Yeah, like like you grew up in like boy and girl was a huge part of your own fish bone Oingo Boingo. Did you have this phone on your list wage? You did. I mean, maybe text text me your list afterwards cuz I want to look at these and see which ones there's like Black Sabbath and Ozzy. Yeah. I didn't I didn't put em, I hadn't do that shit Van Halen Van Halen. I have I have been Halen. Did you have any Halen Halen? Not inform you didn't have any Halen about Man song NWA U NW Angeles, yeah, nice, dude. What about you guys? Either one of them probably has this on Sonic Youth. No. No. No, not a huge name meet. So Sonic you how many songs in your name by them like my problems that I didn't really go very deep. I'm going to know the person or I mean, you know, you know the band but there's Sonic like it's so much of the music was like experimental and some would say noise, but they weren't poppy right? They weren't catchy, but they were they were like a key part of that whole alternative Indie movement, you know kind of along side alongside like all the bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam, but they weren't Grudge. They were like this Indie Punk own nerdy. Yeah, like nerdy music. I always I don't know much about them, but I always thought that when I heard the name, I always thought it was one of the best damn. I wish I was like one of the best band names that of a band that I didn't listen to like, I always thought like wow, this is just such a cool name. I mean like I don't listen to them, but the name is pretty cool off. Like what what does that fall on your list of criteria? I know I would say like a I think a good name. Is is really important it gets you in the door and get you in the door. Like I mean, I you know, and I feel like we just watched Wayne's World and figure I'm reminded of that they go to this club to see Cassandra, you know, whatever name is by the way and the guys got off going in like suspense is terrible. Who are they like you guys like near the shooting needles and he's like, are they any good? He's like oh, so it's not Joe's name then. That's so great. Yeah, like I think I think like fish bone the name fish bone is awesome. Like I think it's like you just can't have a bad impression of that name. I think it's great. I guess I'll tell you who's out who's on my rest of mine off. Jane's huge huge fan Van Halen Stevie Wonder, which obviously I just you know, I he's one of those guys walking any room you hear him. You know, who is yeah, here's the kind of a random one Earth Wind and Fire I grew up with them like not grew up with him. Like we were buddies but like grew up with them. Like my mom used to play them all the time. So Earth Wind and Fire all off-beat music like they had all that crazy seventies album covers of them in front of pyramids and shit and just like Not a Bad album at all Tupac and then one I we haven't talked about at all, which I thought that maybe would have in common is Prince cuz I put Prince. I thought about that you got prepped yet, yet Pence Prince on my like second ten that I nice life jacket and have them know. I mean I thought about him and I not like he's an amazing musician and songwriter and performer, but I was never a prince fan. I just you never just Never did it for me that crazy. Is that so funny? Like that's I think that's so interesting about music is like like you can be that into Bob Dylan and I'm kind of like yeah off and or I could love Prince & Jack's kind of like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. I know that he's a great musician, you know, it doesn't take away from their musicianship or their their qualities and Mission in any way, you know, you know people of personal preferences for the last the last two I last two I have are Soundgarden and then I had I also had the Beatles Build anybody put Pearl Jam down. So so here was the big fight that I was anticipating we're going to have but we only have four minutes left. So we're not going to have it off. I had them. I know you to love them. I took him off because I know I know because for me It's you're going to laugh but the catalog like the first album unbelievable unbelievable second album. Good and then like kind of every other album I'm just kind of like. I don't know. And I tried to listen to I mean you both have told me on separate occasions that the latest album is kind of a throwback, you know, kind of like 80s rock like really good and I've listened to it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. But if I had to have them play their first album fifty different ways on 50 new albums, I'd rather do that than necessarily listen to any of them others stuff. I really talk to anymore about you know, well, it's been great. Okay, we got three minutes make you guys make your case for Pearl Jam. Let's go. Let's hear it. I mean any better went to SD a man. What more do you want the local? So he went to the local he went to local high school. I have you have to listen to like overeat. They kind of like the album's will grow on. Like, you know like your first listen, sometimes it's like and then you hear it again. You're like wow, that was actually a really good song and then again give me an album besides vitality and 10 a.m. I should listen to. Let me Google it really quick. And what about you tell me about Pearl Jam. So like I mean, I I've more heavily weighted on their first couple of albums cuz they're really influential. I mean like a month or like I guess College days, but 10:00 and then vs. Was your second one with the 21st, right? Yeah. Those are just like to really difficult jobs for me. I said, it's just kind of like them in their Bonnet about the same time and Nirvana like say their bottles amazing, you know, Kurt Cobain, whatever but I just felt like I was just so like enthralled with it and it started I didn't really seem to connect to it. But Pearl Jam's your contrarian like that. Yeah, I guess I guess so. Yeah well back but back then did that actually was a pretty controlling way to think because Nirvana was like shit. Yeah everybody in my dorm because yeah, you know, so but Pearl Jam kind of just stuck up on me like I was hanging out like I heard in some of my birth Far one time driving to the beach. It was just like what is this? Like, you know a lot of the first time I heard I was like this is something else that I'm not, you know, it's like I felt like I heard it before but I hadn't heard it exactly that way. You know, it was like it had really reminiscent just like pure like raw rock and roll and but it's also like new and interesting, you know could listen life on an unanswerable question. Let's say Eddie Vedder was not the lead singer would they they still be as good? That's hard. It's like how much of a drop-off is it if he's not the singer and you get someone else who's good? I mean, there's still making good music, you know, but it's like veterans Voice is so much a part of that. Yeah the way Alice in Chains, right? Yes, it's a good point. Yeah with Lane Stanley being gone. Staley being gone. Like I I actually don't listen to out new Alice in Chains at all. Just cuz it's not even remotely the same Stone Temple Pilots, you know, I yeah, yeah. Yeah interesting you find the album. Probably because they know code that was a good one. No code was kind of a little come back after you know was at like the fourth album or some like that or fifth album. All right. I'll check it out. I'll get I believe it's I mean, I like them I had I had them in my like top fifteen and I and and I put them in my top ten and I was like, yeah Pearl Jam obviously and then as I was looking at the other one like well, is it really that obvious for me? Like it's not necessarily that obvious and I'm like, oh, I know I know these guys were saying you feel like everybody wants you to say that so you're saying because everybody else feels like you ought to but you're standing your ground man. Like that's you gotta do it for fun. Gotta do it dude. You gotta be I got a I got can I miss something to you guys? Yeah. I know you guys may not want to hang out with me. Even after I say this I do not prefer Alice in Chains. Not a fan. I know I know I don't really care for years. I don't know. What yeah. Okay. So here here's what we have to do. Let's make it let's make a deal cuz I can't even address that yet when this when this pandemic is over. Yeah, we are going to bring Case of beer bottle of whatever wine coolers whatever it is a mom inviting ourselves to your house. We're going to go sit in a mall shed in his music Shed off and where it's going to bring the album of choice to convince the others Jack. I'll take care of the Alice in Chains for him. You bring a bar a Bob Dylan one month and then Jack you bring whichever one of those that you think you need to bring is that how's that sound deals? I was good. I'm in. All right. All right, so why don't we why don't we wrap up? Thanks dudes. I appreciate the time. I'll post this tomorrow and send you guys the link. Thanks for being on. This is is a great highlight of my week. Hang out you man. Thanks for putting this together this month. Hopefully people will listen to your podcast after this. Well, I mean, we'll have three of us at least us pray. We'll see. Thank you guys for listening you guys buy

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Mystery of the Mullet

Decoder Ring

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Mystery of the Mullet

"This podcast contains explicit language. Lauren? Right is a DJ and for the last three years, she's had a very particular haircut. You know the one business in the Front Party in the back I am the proud owner where of a mullet. I can you describe what your model looks like? What nature of mullet it's pretty short and tight on the sides and I've got some solid lengthen the back. So it's kind of getting blowy. I think it's more the mullet that makes people uncomfortable. See now it's less feminine. It's definitely curly and luscious and. I'm pretty proud of it. Lauren I encountered mullets when she was a kid back in the nineties. So I grew up in Texas and I remember I think the first all I ever saw in person was an elementary school, my pe teacher. Who was a woman? She was the head coach. She had this like long epic curly mullet. And she had a really thick country accent. And choose always chewing gum gold hoops just like. Strong. Gay Woman which I didn't really know at the time. At least twice a week, it should say everybody up and get on the line and she would run on billy ray Cyrus achey breaking heart. And we would shoot teach US different line. Dances. So it was kind of like this double mullet experience with. Strong woman with a mullet who everyone respects is having a sign up in the ass to this country star with an another effect mullet. These we're the waning glory days of the mullet hairstyle that was once the do not only of Country Stars and Lesbians but of Rock Stars Hockey players, soccer players, TV characters, school age boys across the country and people all over the world from such heights. The mullet could only fall and it felt far by the end of the nineteen nineties it'd become dramatically on cool lows even considered to be uniquely unattractive, trashy and low class. You can see this in the two thousand, one comedy Joe Dirt. which David spade plays a sweet beleaguered loser whose most distinctive quality is his incredible mullet. He's constantly teased about it as by this radio shock Jock played by Dennis Miller. Got To see the sad almighty man from inbred Heaven Hey freak boy nineteen, seventy, six called who wants its hairstyle back. This sentiment of the mullet is particularly classless outmoded and hideous still the dominant one, which is exactly what the subcultures that have sporadically embraced the mullet over the last two decades electro punk kids aware rednecks high fashion. He says, Queer people like about it the way it thumbs its nose at means dream respectability. You know the mullahs has been deemed like traditionally. Unattractive and ugly and so. As, someone who does necessarily fit into traditional norms of beauty. This identify very much with this haircut. It feels very powerful the Mola potent versatile cultural signifier that conveys more now almost fifty years into its existence than it did when it was totally ubiquitous and you know what? That's not even the craziest thing about it were you calling them mullets your member. No I don't think that I was like I was too young to kind of remember like the big eighty s mullet style. What am I told you? That the word mullet didn't exist nineteen ninety-four I. it would be surprising for sure because I would think I would think maybe in the seventies like leading into the eighty s that. Are you. Just saying that we have. We didn't have a word for it it just as existing out here with no label. This is Dakota ring show about cracking cultural mysteries. I will have has skin. You may think the mullet is just an unfortunate haircut. Let me tell you. It is so much more than that, and in this episode, we're GonNA prove it not just by following the story of the mall as a hairstyle but by following the story of the word mullet to figure out how a name helped transform an omnipresent do into a national joke and alter our cultural memory in the process. So today undercoating what I swear turns out to be eight hundred sorell mystery anesthetic mystery, a lexical mystery, a chronological mystery, and maybe even an existential mystery. WHO named the mullet? We, all know somebody from Boston you know the guy or girl who Wore New England Jersey to Thanksgiving dinner and they probably speak their mind loudly and even when they're double parking or picking a fight with the New York Fan are Boston friends always have our back and the kind of people you want to share a beer with especially when it's their hometown brew a Sam Adams because there's nothing better than a crisp refreshing Boston lager. So grab your favorite drinking buddy and crack open Sam Adams. The beer that brings together new Englanders and non new Englanders. To stay away while they're watching sports the Boston beer company Boston Massachusetts Savor the flavor responsibly. I WANNA start at the beginning not of the mullet but of my interest in the mullet which was sparked by an email from a listener with the subject line the mystery of the mullet my name is Oscar Robertson. I'm a software developer and I live in Stockholm Oscar is really interested in language and linguistics. So I subscribed all these like weird linguistics and exit call griffey blogs and things like that. One of the dogs I was. I am subscribed to is the Oxford English dictionary is public appeals blog. Where the Oxford English dictionary like put out appeals to the public for like Oh, we researching this word hit the wall and and so in two thousand thirteen that could out this log post about door mullets in this public appeal, the Oxford English dictionary the E. said, they couldn't find documented reference to the mullet as a hairstyle prior to nine hundred and ninety four, which I was very surprised to read because nine, hundred, ninety, four like that's. So late like mullets eight, like the most eight, these thing you can imagine there's nothing more emblematic of ages mullet. Like but nobody uses that word in the entire decade like nobody. Can't be like so weird and it is so weird in the popular imagination. Mullah's are as eighty s shoulder pads, dynasty, Ronald, Reagan junk bonds, and break dancing. The two are totally intertwined and to explain why have to go back to the other beginning the beginning of the mullet itself. Despite its connection to the nineteen eighties, the modern mullet was not actually birthed in that decade was first popularized in the early nineteen seventies by David Bowie. Ziggy played guitar. Jamming. Avin. In her memoir backpage passes Angie Bowie, but he's wife at the time recalls that David was working on his album, the rise and fall Z. Stardust and the spiders from Mars, which we didn't have it the character of ziggy stardust and Amna Sexual Glam space alien he woke up one morning wanting a new haircut. It was Christmas Week and the hairstylist who regularly did always mom's hair paid a house call this stylist Suzy Ronson Nayef Fussy told the story of what happened next as a storyteller at the moth David Angie was sitting by large Bu Window and they were discussing the of cutting his hair short. He had this long blonde wavy hair at the time. They asked me my opinion. I said, well, you know what else got short? You know nobody you look really different. But we showed Susie a magazine photo by can cite Yamamoto. Model cans I am a motive was a Japanese designer. One of the first to show his work in London who'd in the next few years begin a long creative collaboration with Bowie do that. Well, as I'm saying, yes, something could to myself. It's a woman style. Am I can actually do that. The answer was some scissors, Schwartzkopf red red hot hair dye, and guard an anti dandruff treatment that made boase hair stand up in the front when suzy was done. But we had the famous ziggy haircut bright red long and flipped out at the back and short and bristling in the front. It was the perfect haircut for the extraterrestrials ziggy who is not exactly male or female because the mullet was genderless to it's easy to lose sight of this now with a mullet has become so associated with a performance of aggressive machismo, but it's a haircut that's long and short male and female both and neither at the same time. The fact that it's not entirely straight also in the sense of not being square is what makes it cool. But as the mullet became more and more popular, it's essential androgen seated into the background, and that's because the people carrying water for the in the seventies and early eighties weren't mullet having performers like Joan Jett Paul McCartney Bano and prints they were hockey players. Illustrate how the mullet crossed over from rockstars to athletes and regular people getting bigger all the while I want to highlight two figures in particular. The first is the hockey player Ron. Dia. Rondo awarded a federally shot and Harry. Do gave a handsome Canadian who married to a model played in the NHL in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine, and is widely credited with having one of the earliest mullets in the league. You can see it in a nineteen seventy-nine commercial he appeared in with three of his teammates for vitale says soon, gene. In this ad, the four players around the ice in jerseys and dungarees of the four do gate is the only one to have a mullet, but it's relatively understated. His Sandy curly hair is definitely longer in the back but not wildly. So it looks winds up in kind of sophisticated with a casual cool haircut I mean even be dousing dot out. No wonder kids across the country. As the hairstyle caught on with the public. So did ad hoc names for it we didn't call it mullets we call it hockey here. John Warner is a writer and market researcher who grew up in the Chicago suburbs. He was in high school in the mid to late nineteen eighty S, and he played on the hockey team just about every member of his team himself included had hockey hair though they called it something more specific. We call it to do gay named after Ron Gay because he had such a good. Flow you called it flow. It was called the flow like how's your flow if somebody came in and was looking long and good? flapping behind the helme say, Oh, good flow. It was what you did. It guys permed it. I mean they got perms of only they're only there flow guys like walking into the locker room for practice after the urban could smell it. You didn't make fun of them. It was like Oh, that's cool. You know he he he permits. As you can tell from the perms as the eighties wore on the mullet was getting increasingly elaborate by the end of the decade it was huge as a trend, but also just physically huge fleecy Jahromi are Yager. Nine thousand nine hundred and have the longest harian NHL but. Don't forget. Thousand Nine hundred was a style that's the legendary check would play in the NHL for twenty eight seasons talking to ESPN in two thousand sixteen when he first came into the League as an apple cheeked eighteen year old, he had an eastern European statement mullet this mob of dark chestnut hair that cascaded down his back in a curly boo font. It's like the mullet print in a Disney movie would have if they had mullets well-conditioned luxurious somehow sparkley and Agar's hairstyle which he kept for his first nine seasons in the league. Wasn't the only one of its kind though it may be best class I can tell you as I see about it was mostly crew and. Indefinite burden point Jewish. So they all long hair so I wanna be accented like them. It wasn't just the hair metal band rocking audacious mullets. This is the time of Andre Agassi Lionel Richie Michael Bolton and one thing I want to underscore is that these attention-grabbing mullets didn't just with the nineteen eighty s so many of the canonical mullets Yonkers, Billy Ray? Cyrus Jean Claude van Damme's are not eighties mullets at all they're nineteen ninety s mullets. When it comes to mullets were suffering from a kind of distortion one familiar from the TV show mad. Then that series begins in the early nineteen, Sixty S, which looks so much more like the nineteen fifties than what we think of as the sixties the aesthetics we assigned two decades often start mid-decade and then run into the next one, but we tend to erase this decade straddling in favor of a simpler shorthand. Simplification can actually change how we think about the past and the mullet is an example of this. The enormous mullet belongs as much of the early nineties to Lauren writes line dancing gym class as the late eighties even though we don't remember it that way. This brings us back to Oscar Varson. The Sweden who had been floored to hear the term mullet might not exist until nine, hundred, ninety four, which is especially late if you're under the mistaken impression that mullets more or less died out in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine. Confronted with a claim that seemed. So chronologically off Oscar did what a curious language obsessed person might do he tried to find out for himself. Hiring is challenging especially with everything else you have to consider today, but there's one place you can go were hiring is simple fast and smart a place where business can connect qualified candidates. That place is ziprecruiter dot com slash decoder. Ziprecruiter. Send your job to over a hundred of the web's leading job sites. 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So the English dictionary had asked the public for help in finding any reference to the mullet as a hairstyle from four, nineteen, ninety-four, an Oscar set out to find one you know once or twice in the past I've been able to find something earlier than the Oxford English dictionary says it was printed or something start doing done. That's just putting in mullet and Google books saying, okay between one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine by Newell Use just the word and you know. The fish, right it's all fish fish fish the mullet a family of fish is eaten all over the world and it was like I did it for like hour it's trying to find. You know once in a while, you can find reference to the insult like Martin Paul Newman called hadn't. He doesn't have a mullet like these called been called an idiot. A tip from cheers SAM. Diane Mullin. Just ended that sentence with two prepositions. Don't you have customers to deal with that ended with the preposition to don't you have customers to deal with mullet head. That's it. Right. You can actually find it at that point it became like Oh. This is the fun factor used parties less efficient use and Sweden though it's not that efficient in Sweden, because in Sweden as many of the countries where it was a phenomenon, this hairstyle is not called mullet, which is hokey feel which means hockey hockey fellow was is a whole thing in Sweden. There's even a well-known nineteen ninety-three Swedish. Rock song about it. There was a very big hit from the Swedish group illegally accomplish on our. Translate as happy friends like it was huge. They was something that everyone knew because it's like a real earworm. Funny and it has like the chorus is just a guy singing called who hook if ho Ho Ho Ho cookies dealer. Anyway even though it wasn't always a smash with other Swedes, Oscar often share this mullet factoid and then in two thousand fifteen for no particular reason, he decided to share it on read it. Oscar posted to the information about mullet to the today I learned sub read it a kind of gathering place for fun tidbits. So I've never had anything on ready to blow up but that thing blew up like it was on the front ready for like almost an entire day like it was the most fun twenty, four hours. I've ever had on the Internet's because like everyone like whoa and then trying to solve a problem with you like a exactly yes. That was my favorite part right because the comments most many comments were like this is told worship like I I wasn't there. All the time, this is exactly what some of the comments on his post sound like bullshit I grew up in Queens New York City, and use the term mullet since way before nine, hundred, ninety, four, one reads another goes I call bullshit when Achey breaky heart came out in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two I, and everyone I knew in North Dakota was referring to his haircut as a mullet there was lots of those but anyway, a lot of people started like. Doing the research and it was so much fun even with all these people digging around though no one turn up an earlier reference. But then Oscar's post got cross posted to an Australian read it where was framed is like get a load of this nonsense and one of the people reading that post he found something. A user named tops made. Like posted a comment. Yeah. That today I learned is so full of Shit and the perfect example group thing took me under an hour of browsing through my street machine collection defined this reference to a mullet as a hairstyle from nineteen ninety one. And Yeah. Any Image of magazine that if I'm in his garage, the image that tops meet hosted is of two pages an Australian hot rod magazine called Street machine there from a piece about a teenager named Craig Parker who built his own muscle car the story includes a picture of him sitting on the ground his back against the grill of a red sports car in which he has an unmistakable mollet. And then there's an Arrow added by tops mate pointing to this picture and another Arrow pointing to a line in the text of the piece that reads three years ago Craig Parker was a mullet haired teenager who wanted to build a car that could rival the best. It seemed to be a piece calling a mullet a mullet in Nineteen ninety-one I remember reading that and like my short. Like. That was the coolest thing I've ever seen Oscar immediately replied to tops Smith, comment and said, this is amazing. You should submit this to. This is great work part of me was dismissed that my cool today I learned had been disproven by Australia but like. The. Bigger part. So happy that I could like make like I had had a small part in making a contribution to the history of this term. Now, if you're saying to yourself nine, hundred, ninety one that's still so late, that's not even the one thousand nine, hundred eighty s is really that big a contribution to the history of the term please keep this in mind about slang often it's used in spoken language years before ends up in the documentary record. So in Nineteen ninety-one usage maybe that does mean the mullet goes back to the late nineteen, Eighty S, and also this was such a big deal to Oscar because he was just way down the rabbit hole totally internalize this fact. Like I on the research and I had like lived with this for two years and I had like just spent hours defending his thesis in the comments. And then this guy comes no. Yeah. I just went out to my garage and found the holy game when. I think of as any pre nineteen ninety-four references to mullets Oscar it wasn't the only one who feel this way about the street machine article the Oxford English dictionary was about to jump back into the picture. Now that we've all got a bit of free time on our hands. You can catch up on the podcast you've always wanted to listen to, and so many of them are on luminary luminary is a subscription podcast network with original shows you won't find anywhere else. Like their new show murder on the towpath a captivating true crime miniseries hosted by award winning journalist Soledad O'Brien. Murder on the towpath explores the nineteen sixty, four murder of Mary pinchot mayor in Georgetown DC. 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It's now nine because there are eight earlier words called mullet in English, each of which has a different etymological origin but the people at the D. were totally satisfied with the etymological portion of the mullet. Now, nine entry because like everybody else nineteen ninety-four sounded late to them, there seems to to be a disconnect between the lexical history of the of mullet and the cultural and social history of the of the mullet, and furthermore we had anecdotal evidence from people who were sure that they had heard or use that term in the nineteen eighty s and. As an editor I myself felt like well, obviously, we knew term in the nineteen eighties So. In twenty thirteen, we decided to launch what we call an appeal to the public for further information. On this word, the O. A D. has been launching these appeals since it was founded. Now they do that on the Internet hoping that people like Oscar will find something they couldn't for a few years though no-one found anything and then they got a lead then twenty fifteen, the plot thickens. Because someone posted a T. I l. thing I learned thread on Reddit the people don't know Oscar, but Katherine is talking about Oscar someone on staff had come across his post which had been updated with a link to the street machine article that was really exciting. When we found out about it, we were thrilled but the policy because these first states are so important to us we really. Have to verify them and we typically will we want to verify them in print in a library, which is the gold standard. So the reached out to a number of Australian libraries and the librarian at the national. Library of Australia found a copy of St machine from January nineteen ninety-two, which would have come out in late nineteen ninety-one Catherine. read the email librarian sent to her they said I've checked our copy of St Machine from January February nineteen, ninety two. On page thirty one, there is some wording that is very similar to the quote you provided, but it doesn't mention the word mullet. If not persistent, the several other Australian Librarian track down this article none of them could find version of it with the word mullet but they also confined January nineteen ninety-two issue. of St Machine they could only find a January February nine, hundred, ninety, two double issue which instead of making the whole thing shadier actually introduced some doubt research librarians are the greatest people and so one of them. Took it upon themselves to contact the Editors Street magazine themselves. And they also didn't know of eight January nineteen ninety-two issue but they couldn't say for certain that there might not have been some kind of special early version with limited circulation for a special event that might have had a slightly different text stream machine ended up posting about all of this on their facebook page and none of their readers could find this mention of the mullet or this January nineteen, ninety, two issue either. All of the sounds pretty sketchy and that's why it didn't go into the O. He it was not definitive documentary proof but for all the Catherine was suspicious of it, it's still nickeled at her she couldn't completely dismiss. And that's because she knows too much about how language works Australian English has. A history of punching above its way when it comes to colloquial English. So for example, the word Selfie. Originated in Australian English and then infiltrated the rest of the world. It's entirely plausible that this word originated in. Australian slang in the late nineteen eighties and early nineteen nineties like all of these Australian said did and that it was only popularized by the Beastie boys rather than coined by them like that wouldn't be surprising at all. So yeah. The first documented usage of mullet now nine from nine, hundred, ninety, four, it doesn't come from some random used that page it comes when the Beastie Boys. The BBC Boys, the Rock outfit consisting of Adam Address Horovitz Mike Mike D Diamond and Adam MCA how who died in two thousand twelve release a song mullet head in June, nineteen ninety four, the lyrics which reference late stage mullets border Claude van Damme Billy Ray Cyrus Kenny G. and Joey Buttafuoco get it the idea still with us of the mullet hammer as a particular kind of Macho sleazebag they. skewer and condescend to a stereotype of lower class bridge and tunnel guys douches with stone wash jeans and mullets driving into New York City to start fights and hookup with underage girls. The song also includes the lines you want to know what's a mullet well I got a little story to tell about a hairstyle that's a way of life. Have you ever seen a mullet wife? These words are in the. The second documented reference to the mullet included in the eighty two also comes from the Beastie, boys in arrived in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five in their storied short-lived magazine Grand Royal, which is a big enough deal at the time to be featured on MTV news with Kurt. loader. Now. Come out with its own magazine and it turns out to be one of the funniest reads around grand royal is as proprietors acknowledged a celebration of inside. Humor. Basketball Trivia, slang, blatant opinions, and half baked notions. The second issue delivered on the slang. It contains a collection of articles gathered under the headline mulling over the mullet it's opening essay begins. There's nothing as bad as bad haircut, and perhaps the worst haircut of all is cut, we call the mullet. It goes on to include a series of mini essays about the haircuts, origins and cultural significance focusing largely on the cheesy White Guy Mollet though it has one section called the political correctness of the mullet, which notes its popularity among blacks, Hispanics indigenous people, and women. There's also a Q. and A. With head a defense of the mullet and synonyms for the hairstyle including soccer rocker, bi-level, neck, warmer ape drape mud, flap, hack job the Missouri compromise, and the Kentucky waterfall only some of which were jokes. Warren Beatty is a novelist but in the ninety s, he was freelance writing and running a movie database in San Diego, he'd gone to high school with grand royals editor who got in touch about the project or as Warren. Tells it about the mission everyone from Porn Stars to Superman were sporting it suddenly. And masterstroke was to tag it with a word that would. Forever. Hopefully abolish it from the human race. The editor asked warrant right in ancient history of the mullet. A kind of anthropological satire Warren agreed even though no one knew what a mullet was at the time. It was utterly completely new nobody had heard of it. Everybody thought was nuts to do it is what are you naming a hairstyle after fish what? For the peace he went up to Los Angeles, to get a leather bound thome that he says had been permanently borrowed from the. La. County Library. System. About the history of hairstyles going back to the Sumerians I drove up to the Beastie boys office on they had like a half court basketball. Court in their office while I was there might be actually came in. He had just gotten a wig on Hollywood boulevard. And went to a barbershop. Got It cut into a mullet. And the Barbara Barbara was really upset about it but. Then drove around Hollywood Boulevard in convertible, and they did a photo shoot for the magazine. With him wearing it these those would appear in a piece called. I was a twenty something mullet had for a day by Mike Diamond Chronological Account of Mike D and the director Spike Jones Day in mullet wigs with this piece and all the rest, the BBC's or tapping into an crystallizing already popular sentiment that this Hairdo was over. If it had been rebellious, it was increasingly conformist if it'd one's been away to signal, you're an outsider. Now it was just a way to pose as one. Yes it was still common, but it wasn't cool. Ten I think this may help explain one of the otter coincidences of all this, which is that in a period of two years, there were as many songs about this one hairstyle. Please recall that Swedish hockey hair saw from one, thousand, nine, hundred. In nineteen, ninety, three and nineteen ninety-four hockey hair was in a deeply transitional moment where it was popular and yet also played out making it curious. Of Note, in a way, it hadn't been for years and these songs they noticed. Anyway getting back on track. The BC's didn't originate the disdain for the mullet they mainstreamed it and it's new insulting name. But that doesn't mean they came up with this name as Catherine Connor Martin said, it's totally plausible that the term mullet came from somewhere else likely in the slang of some subculture somewhere on the English speaking globe. So now I want to turn back to the only subculture that had showed any promise. However, piddling I want to turn back that lead. We left dangling somewhere over Australia I want to turn back to the elusive nine, hundred, ninety, one St. Machine. As far as we could tell, the only stone, the O. E. D. had left unturned was tops made himself the Reddit user who had originally posted the street machine pages. So we decided to reach out to him. We didn't expect him to respond. We figured it was worth a try while we were waiting for him to get back to US Benjamin fresh producer of decoding started digging around I. He tried to find other places online tops mate hung out because only lead or the images that tops made had posted on Reddit. Those images were all collected on the popular image hosting site called younger or imager depending on how you pronounce it, which allows you to click through everything. Has Uploaded. Ben Started clicking through tops, mates, other imaging posts looking for something that might give him another username or an email address, and then he noticed that one post had been uploaded three years after the original read it post according to Imager it is only been viewed about three hundred times, and as far as we can tell, it has never been linked anywhere not on read it not on twitter Oscar had never seen it catherine had never seen it. It had never popped up in any of the research we did for this piece. The name of the post is an apology to the Oxford English dictionary. Okay. So high. So yes. I called Catherine back to tell her about it. I was like, read it to you. Yeah. Okay. So it's from April twenty, second two, thousand eighteen and it's called an apology to the Oxford English dictionary. A few years ago I saw a post on read about the origin of the word mullet. I- Photoshop a nineteen ninety-two magazine I had laying around to make it look like it referred to the term mullet before it was first used in print a change the cover to make it more difficult to trace as an issue in the archives and add more credence to my edits. I also edited the publication Copyright Dates Nineteen Ninety one. So it may have appeared as a special early edition. It says, why would I do this? I was a founding member of an online community called annoy. Club, which looks for arguments on the Internet and then creates sake. Cruyff's as evidence that the person who is correct in the thread is actually wrong. We pick arguments that we have no personal stake in and involve no people we know, and for point create images, photos website in interviews with false information supporting the incorrect. Why am I admitted to this? I recently came across an entry in the eighties own blog, and there was a lot of work by eighty staff behind the scenes trying to hunt down the special issue of the magazine Photoshop also dragged into street machine magazine staff and tap can multiple libraries in Australia I. Think they should know I'm sorry for what I have done I respect the a D and I should not have published the that I did. Well. I have very mixed emotions. To, hearing this. I mean. First of all, there's like. Validation that this always felt sort of Hinky and the likelihood of it being real seemed vanishingly small and I have to respect the game here because those things that he mentioned like changing the copyright to hard like those were exactly the right things to do. To keep that tiny shred of possibility alive that this was real and. It worked. But then also it's kind of sad mystery M.'s. Catherine also pointed out another thing that the whole thing is pretty dark. There's an additional paragraph and the apology in which tops meet says he's become disillusioned with Annoy Club because it's quote full of people whose only purpose in life is trolling vaccinations, supporters and US political discussions. He goes on to say he almost died in the eighties from an infection for which there is now a vaccine and he thinks that the political work is just empowering those who would prefer a confused populace I want no part of the community anymore. Between, two thousand, fifteen, when he posted the photo shopped image and two, thousand eighteen when he apologized tops mate like so many people seems to have been confronted with what it means to live a post-truth world when he was actively contributing to only to find out, he didn't like it that much. Still he only saw fit to apologize a hard to find image gallery. The people he was apologizing to might never have found is it really an apology if you don't deliver it Still Catherine's happy to have the whole thing resolved. So we put this appeal. We wondered about this question does the word mullet go back as far as our brains think it does or only as far as the documented evidence shows and I guess. From our perspective that that still not answered but we're always open for new for need this one I'm just like you are open new data, but like I feel like you guys got it. We we never say never in business they're always they're always new things that come up but yes, I don't think this active anymore. I WANNA gently suggests that there was something going on to keep it active. So long something besides lexa graphical plausibility, call it a bit of mullet confirmation bias because it feels so much like the term to have existed before nine, hundred, ninety, four, the only OECD put out this appeal and then when evidence of it existing before Nineteen ninety-four popped up, it was taken seriously. Seriously and then ultimately, perhaps more seriously than it deserved like multiple librarians more seriously than it deserved and so many people in this tale behave this way. Read it readers. Librarian Street machine editors and readers. Definitely me. We all kept digging because we couldn't quite believe what we thought. We knew was true wasn't true. One thing I noticed that many of the people most devoted to the idea that the term mullet existed in the nineteen eighties Catherine Oscar read. It commenters me again weren't even fully sentient in the nineteen eighties. It wasn't personal experience or individual memory that was driving our certainty. It was just a cliche sense of the era which was all we had to go on in this regard. The mullet is a fun low stakes iteration of something that is often not fun or low stakes at all people's warped but strongly held perceptions of the imagined past and the length they will go to hold onto them. So. We've almost fully excavated the mullet. There's a little more to this mystery if term mullet wasn't coined in. Australian. Car Culture who actually coined it the Beastie Boys Pluck it out of thin air or did they get it from somewhere else? Honestly. Seems like they plucked it it was definitely coined by Mike D of The beastie boys Warren Fahey, the writer who contributed to the Grand Royal mullet package. Again, who had noticed that this hairstyle was was impinging on civilization To a a monster degree at that point in time. And he came up with the word mullet. And said, this is what we're going to do. We're going to devote an issue to making that word stick. So it was all quite intentional and completely planned. By a Super Genius Mike D. now, obviously, I would like to ask about this still would it anyone has an please consider this public appeal, but he declined to speak with US but Warren is adamant Mike d coined the term and the piece itself suggests everyone working on it at the time thought so too. The article says, we're not sure where the term me came from but as usual Mike D was the first to use it around here is that implies he might have gotten it from somewhere else the possibilities listed for where he might have gotten it. Maybe he was thinking of a Muskrat, for example, don't suggest he was borrowing from a buddy. Still, Mike was the beast most involved with the magazine. Maybe the staff just hadn't talked mullets with the other members when I ran the theory that Mike D. had coined the term by the Beastie boys publicist a man named Steve Martin who is known them forever, and did the real life interview with a mullet head for the grand royal mullet package. He'd never heard that it came specifically from Mike D. Steve said, he first heard the term from Adam Yok likely in the early planning stages for this piece he asked him if it had anything to do with a fish and Adam said, no. Whatever beastie came up with it, the timeline supports the theory that one of them bird it outright I explained this all to Catherine. This is just fully like too much detail but one thing that is also interesting is that song mullet had. Like, it was a deep side like it was originally released in Nineteen, ninety, four in. June. At like an additional track on the single for the third single off L. Communication, which is to say it's not an album track, but it actually also makes more sense of the grand royal piece because it's like this song came out in mid one, thousand, nine, hundred four but it would like only been for BBC boy heads or people who bought that single that's such important part of slang to so like the appeal of slang when it comes out is that it's it's an indicator of it's like of in group, identification? So like the exclusivity is what makes it tantalizing the other thing that is sort of interesting about just date wise. Is that grand royal issue that has this article about the mullet, which is so much more detail than the song is a yearly. So it came out in nineteen ninety-five, but it's like same asleep. Like it, the publication process was way longer than it was supposed to be. Yes and so that actually means it probably had been originally conceived in time to come out with. The album which came out in mid nineteen four but then your time is up to that to make it. So Can Mike Seeming like Harry straightforward. Well done. You thought the mullet mystery will you already solved but that's the joke. He saw. Thought it was it was made of history. It wasn't a mysterious Adler. Please bear with me. While I suggest there is a real mystery laughed that's answer also has to do with the beastie boys. And it's why do we think the mullet is so hideous because we do I want to go back to something that Lauren, right the woman with a mullet who I spoke with at the top of the show. Sad, you know the mullahs has been deemed like traditionally very unattractive an ugly but for decades as we have seen, the mullet was not thought to be unattractive and ugly at all. What happened I think part of the answer is the term itself. When the BBC's were clowning on it the mullet was reaching the end of its natural life cycle. So everywhere. So mass that hip urbanites the. Were sneering at it but that's not unique this fate. Most. Trends most styles seem unstylish as they're falling out of style but that's not when most of them get their names we don't call bell-bottoms Pizza Pants, but this is exactly what happened to the mullet. Is Crazy to think that matters if the beastie boys hadn't the mullet doesn't it seem entirely possible that we won't remember it. So clearly some random hairdo with no agreed upon name and if the name changed that we see it and when we see it could also have changed how we see it. Maybe one of the ways this is retrofitted. The past is to make us primarily associate this hairstyle with the objects of the BC's Ir. cheesy white guys still rocking in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, four, and not think of it as what it had been for years a surprisingly Pan Gender Pan Racial global haircut that had a really good run whose time was just up. The mullet the term blotted out the mullet, the hairstyle which despite everything meant and continues to mean many different things to different groups of people. What I'm saying is maybe the solution to this last mystery why is the mullet so ugly? It isn't really at all for the people that really get in cruciate it's a powerful thing to have. This is Dakota. I'm willing Paskhin, you can find me on twitter at will haskins and you have any cultural mysteries you want us to decode. You can email us at decoding at slate dot com. You haven't yet subscribe and read our feet apple podcasts or ever you get your podcast and even better tell your friends. This podcast was written by Willa passed and it was edited by Benjamin Fresh Dakota Rick is produced by Willa Paskhin, and Benjamin fresh clearly is our research assistant. Thanks to Barney Hoskyns, Jerry Slater Daniel L. Schachter Alicia, Montgomery June Thomas Forrest Whitman, and everyone else who gave us help feedbacks along the way. 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"Hey. What's up, guys? It's Mike thanks for listening to the bobby bones show, and we have a bunch of podcasts here on the Nashville podcast network and I wanted to share an episode of my podcast with you guys. It's called movie Mike's Movie. podcast were all I. Do is talk about movies and this episode. I got to interview. Bobby which is a rare kind of turn of events of. Of Me, getting to ask him questions, and what I did, I asked him about his favorite movies from his life, and it ended up getting pretty personal guy fat. Some things about him that I didn't even know who knew asking bobby about his favorite movies. Reveal some stuff, and I also got to ask him about the movie. He did back in the day called band slamming he actually. Actually told me how much he made on that how he got cast, and then it had to do an audition for it so I this is a pretty cool episode to share with you guys just a taste of kind of what I do on my podcast. Just bringing on people to talk about movies, I talk about different of topics in movies if you enjoyed this episode and wanting. Wanting to hear more just search movie Mike's Movie podcast wherever you're listening to this right now. Hit that follow button hit that subscribe done because I put out brand new episodes every single Monday and would love to come. Hang out and be a part of it, so here's the episode with Bob Hope you enjoy it. You can also follow me on. Instagram at Mike, Destroy that's Mike Das. All right here we go, you know world where everyone in their mother has a podcast. One man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like never before in a movie podcast. A main was so much movie knowledge piece basically like a walking imdb with glasses. From the Nashville podcast network Jason. Moodie Mike Movie. Joining me now on the podcast we have bobby boned ever heard of never heard of this guy I've never interviewed you before. It'd be a bit different today. Well. I tend to Take it my own way, so feel free to stop me, but let me start by saying okay. I started watching the movie about the beastie boys last night. Yeah! Movie podcast. Last night I don't like how. They put together how it's a live show. I want a documentary. The beach boys that got me a little bit off from and I was trying to watch with Kaelin. And I would have been into it enough to sit through all of it like that, but that was a struggle for her. I just I don't like how it's formatted now. I only watched again by the six of it. That's it well because she wasn't feeling okay, she didn't know the guys on stage I think or a documentary a good documentary. You can watch about knowing. Anything personally about it. You can just in go on learning something. Yeah, but you kinda needed to know who those guys were when they're out. Because if you haven't seen you probably haven't I'm a big beastie boys fan and I had last night. There, it's a in a theater, and it's a live recording of the Beastie Boys, showing pictures and telling stories of their lives Does it ever get more documentary or does it stay like? I've watched an hour of it and it stays like that the whole time and I. Think it's still interesting, but yeah like you said it feels like you're not really getting the whole story because they're kind of just telling it and let me know them already. Yeah, feel connected like Oh. You could just go into this without knowing anything about them. I love the beach. Boys one of the most influential musical groups of my life when it comes to. How I modeled any of my career, not just broadcasting, but the music I like the music that I do kinda funny and for a while I was a funny hip hop artist, and you know being a white kid, and you see other white guys that were funny, but could still be cool, so I saw. Felt about that? Will you finish them? I will but I won't with her. Okay. I'll finish it tonight at your girl. Watch it with you. Yeah! She liked it, she. She likes to. She's older brothers. Yeah, okay, well, that's all. That's my movie topic that I brought in for. Pat But I'm not all the way there yet so I'll give you an update later all right so what I WANNA do is get to know you more through movies, so I guess I WanNa, know your favorite movies from your life, and like why they affected you and you call them your favorite movies well. It's interesting, because I'm not a movie Guy As much as you are this as much as I'm not. Just I mean I guess I watch them. But I never really cared a sit down for that long unless it was a true story, I get more books. I can very much get into. A nonfiction book because I feel like I'm learning. Even if it's not a great book, I still feel like I'm learning. I would compare all my media consumption for movies or books like to the The the Queen's other movies that shows athletes. It's called McQueen the queen the crown. Thank you because it's kind of boring, but it's just good enough, but because you're learning, you stay in That's how I kind of feel about movies so I was thinking about this. My top three movies. At number three is probably bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Oh, interesting, because now since I want to watch over and over again, but that's not a my criteria for best movies. My criteria is stages of my life movies that affected me the most, and what way and bill and Ted's excellent adventure was me for two reasons one because it was funny. But to I learned something in it, because in this movie bill and Ted or idiot, kids have to go back in time to create. An. Spoken report in a theater to pass, and if they don't get a greater, so they fail out of school, go to boarding school. I've seen it in so long I'm. Okay, so what they do is they find this time? She would George Carlin, and they go back through history, and they meet all these famous people and Napoleon which I was like. Okay Laura About Napoleon but it me. WanNa. Learn more about Polian. so creates who's also socrate who I so you learn about all these folks Joan of Arc. Abraham Lincoln as you're laughing. Laughing and it's a really stupid movie. I also fell myself learning and that for much much of my life I toss probably nine hundred twenty with my favorite movie. I was just that, was it? That's what I just stuck with. The movie came out in nineteen, eighty, nine, ten, probably nine. Watch it when he came out or you watch. It later like as a teenager. When it came out to rent because that we really couldn't afford to go to the movie. I went to. As a young kid. I would say twelve or below are probably went to two movies. And it was they were both. When my mom met my Stepdad, he took me to watch the Babe with John Goodman. because. We were both big baseball. Fans and white men can't jump. And enjoy both of them, and they were sports movies, and that's really how we bonded. was through sports. But I can't really remember going to any movie other than him taking me to my first movies. At twelve and those are the two that I went to I guess I was the same way because I. Remember I had a I didn't go to the kid, but I had a cousin who would get everything on Vhs, and that's kind of where I got all my movies from like all these movies I can watch now. Yeah, we would go to on because what would happen at the movie store which was on the way to town, you could stop at the movie store and you can rent a movie on Friday and pay the to ninety nine, and you'll get to keep it till Sunday however if you went on Saturday in the movies where leftover? Saturday wasn't a big a big day. Because then you only got one day to keep it like Thursday was Friday Wednesday was Thursday, but Friday was. You can bring back Sunday. You get an extra day. Because it was the same movie you gotTa half off so if you want on. Saturday see what was left, and we rent movies from the Dollar Ninety Nine Dollar Twenty nine movie rental. You'd never got the big ones, but. I am positive. That I saw billon Ted on VHS for the first time in watch it. A lot is going to buying it. which was crazy because I don't think we had a VCR for a lot of time, but that's at number three, and that's really the only movie that I'm bringing in. From childhood so. Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. That means bill and Ted's to was okay. Wasn't that great? It was bill and Ted. In the grim reaper was in it and like I. Don't remember. I remember being excited for it to come out. Watch it on VHS and was like it was okay. I still love their bill. But there they just made bill and Ted Three. Yeah, hopefully, they finished it. We know if they finish it. I think it was close to being finished, but it's obviously delighted to come out. So that number three number two. Well. This kind of got tricky with me because. Look, what movies just hit me the hardest I guess. Because I definitely wouldn't put down on movies I've seen the most as my favorite movies because that would be something tbs that I would stop hitch at price in I've probably seen hitch more than any movie just because it's been on so many times, so I took that out of my. List of things. I needed to have my favorite movie so then I go. Okay. What movie? Just? When I finished it I was like aw. And had to again number two, but the one the almost made it list was her It didn't make the list on the pick takes its spot. Is that movie when it finished I went? Fell that because her, before it honorable mention. Her is about a guy who just can't find love because he's awed. So, he finds love. With an outside with an outsider, that's really the over our of the story. It's not so much. It's an operating system. That's a big part of it, but the real part of the story is guy doesn't fit in. He finds some other way to find. Somebody loves and IT turns. Out, it's a you know basically fall in love. Safari on your computer. And so if you look at it from. Above the forest, instead of in the trees, it's a sad romantic story. If you look at it from an Weirdo, Guy who falls in love with this computer. I loved her because I turned it off. I was like Dinghy Kinda felt that come never fit in. Never had girls was always like I'm GonNa have to fall something. Or someone different but I watched that and. As I love you either loved or hated. Did Spike Jones. Yeah, and he does. The beastie boys document I'm talking about. But what did he do because he the documentary by Jones? Do buy a ticket and watch it in the theater. I think he's doing all the stage direction because they like them out like during the later on. Down to facts, and like Brennan Light, and all that he put all that together. Okay Stage Direction. They just stand up. Pictures So her did it make it, but this movie that gave me the same kind of feeling did. which was eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, which is the Jim Carrey movie? And I'm not a big Jim Carey Guy, but I'll watch that movie. And it was. Would you eliminate. All of these toxic. Sad. Unworthy the feelings that you have accumulated with him? It was her if you could. Would you or would you keep them all and grow from it? and. It did it hit me on a romantic level, but on a personal level was like Dang much crap in my life. What I get rid of that or not, and you know I thought about it for a long because that move everything about it for a long time. That based on the movie. I May I. May maybe once or twice mile, but I'm just going from the lasting feeling that it gave me when it finished so. Number two is eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. Because of I still feel a scar from that movie like it. Cut Me in the right way. And! That scar is still there. Yeah! I've probably watched it pretty recently like maybe within the year. Really and it's I think it's still holds up. Yeah, and I remember it Kinda. Hit me like that, too. That first line where he like he's sitting on that train and line he says about he falls in love with like any girl. I was like Dang. I me pretty hard. See I. Don't remember anything about it because I've only seen it once or twice. And I don't know if it holds up, almost don't WanNa. Watch it again because, and in the same way I I never listen to my favorite interviews on on the Radio Show I. Don't WanNa remember it differently than I felt it essentially felt something. that a feeling that was so distinct like I can remember how I felt when the movie finished, so there are interviews in my career Smith early. John Mayer interview that we did my first time GARTH BROOKS I won't go back and look at or listen to it anyway because I don't want to look at it and go. Oh, that's kind of stupid. I shouldn't have said that or same way with probably this movie unless I just wanted to see it I don't want to go back and go like this is of lame now like it didn't hold up. That will so that's why we know over and over. It doesn't have to fall in my category. My favorite movies now pricing old school thirty times, you know. We look at movies and go. Old School Hitch comedies. You can kind of watch over and over. Yeah, they hold up a little bit better. Yeah, that's number two. You have any questions about that one I. Think want to get to number one well, and I'm just not a Jim Carrey fan on a hater, but my top two movies. Jim Carey movies. Listen you like the series Jim Carey. Though because you know what would be in top five if I were doing top-five, would for sure be the Truman show! Number One, but it's an honorable mention because. It's that you have to think outside of what you know. And then that's when it gets scary for people scary for me to like I know what I can see in touch and been taught, but what if there's something? That we have no I. that's what Truman show is. He hasn't Hawaii's part of frigging Tebas born there watching them the whole time he has no idea finally figures out takes a big risk. Could die, you know. And if you don't look at it, as here's a guy on a boat going at at the end going. Here's a guy that's risking everything to go. find out what's true. People have to do that on a much larger level at times leaving their cultures leaving, and so that movie hit me pretty hard. That would be top five, but my number one three Jim Carey. It's crazy and I. don't I don't I'm not anti. Jim Carrey guy just wouldn't think I'm a huge Jim Carrey guy I guess I'm a huge serious. Jim Carey Guy Because Jim Carrey. Playing Andy, Kaufman and man on the moon is my favorite movie ever. For a couple of reasons one I love Andy Kaufman. Not The funniest performers any confident never set out to be the funniest. But Andy Kaufman the performer who died when I was zero or one? Wanted to be someone. Who? was noticed. Wanted to be someone who was always pushing it, even people didn't like it and I love. I didn't always love the bits. Andy Kaufman some lame, but I think that that's pretty amazing that he would go out and try stuff that could bomb their face off and be like well. That didn't work. What else can I do to see I admire that about him as a performer? Highlighted that we're worked really great for him the wrestling The having an opening act in front of him, it was actually him jerry, lawler fight then later got. You know. He got one of his buddies in it to his manager so. I loved Andy Kaufman, now to make that story because I was already such a big, Andy Kaufman Fan but like history. It'll be like somebody now loving. WHO's thirty years old johnny cash. and like watching Johnny cash documentary. That's why it was like with Andy. Kaufman 'cause. I knew I wanted to be a performer, a nose, never going to be a straight STANDUP, because that was not the skill that I decided to pursue only on not particularly talented at writing jokes with punch lines I think you're a far better. Than I am, but I knew I could go out. Get on a stage. And perform doing whatever I needed to do. Some STANDUP, sure some music, sure some improv absolutely, and some even the jokes that I would do in my early attempts when I was torn comedy. I just love to make audience feel awkward I just I love that feeling of like the air being sucked out of the room and I had a couple of jokes that I would do i. don't do them anymore. Because I wrote my last book. But it was. By the way the that the setup is on Facebook, you get that thing fringe. You may know, and it's like all these people that aren't your friends right now, but he goes. Fringe may know all the pictures. And just a little bit about facebook and I was like I just got one of those friends. You may know notifications, and it was my my biological father. The weird thing is I don't. And then I would just sit and it was really uncomfortable sometimes. Laugh and be like this messed up and. Sometimes. Use Your laughing people. It would just be weird but I. would just sit so long to let people figure it out, and then you'd hear some booze or or Come on or groans. And like all right, sorry, sorry, sorry, and I would follow that up with joke. Fine we'll do. Something will break it up here I'll do an impression, not the best impression, but I'm now going to do an impression of my biological father. And I'd walk off the stage. Leave and I would just sit on the side. You see me do it. And others. And the crowd didn't know how to react and I love, and I would love it when it would be the most uncomfortable, and that's one one one thousand of Andy Kaufman did and He's kind of what inspire me even in my earliest radio days early to mid when we would do really uncomfortable on the air. Meaning we wanted to see the reactions. People live but so I'm a big Andy Kaufman fan for for someone to go into that movie and nail it like Jim. Carey did with a bit of his own spin, but I don't think he put that much on it because he also was a massive Andy Kaufman Fan, so he wanted to keep it as true as possible for the movie to be good and written well big deal for Jim Carey the nail it, and for just to come together I thought who am I was nervous watching it. is, but it was so good at everything that I it was somebody already loved a great story about him, and it was an actor nailing it. It was three things you want, so. That's my favorite movie. Because of that I don't know that if Andy Kaufman wasn't someone that I admired and Jim Carey didn't nail him that I would feel that way about that movie. But I wanted to love. I love Howard. Stern's private parts Oh, yeah. Don't know if I never had known Howard Stern. Wasn't it wasn't a big influence on how I do radio that I would have felt the way about I. Don't know maybe it gets. People love it, but it just people who love Stern. Olive Howard Stern, but that's it. It's those three. It's number three bill and Ted's excellent adventure because of the fund, the learning number two. Jim Carey any terminal sunshine of the spotless mind because it cut me in, they're still a scar that I can see today and the number one is Andy Kaufman Man on the Moon Jim Carey in that because he nailed character, I love Andy Kaufman. It was a well written story, and then it just heads a perfect ending a perfect ending for that movie that story. WanNa get into now. Is one of? The arguments that we've had some arguments, but I think this one's the biggest one we've ever had. And I WANNA get into about the marvel universe. Cool with that. Yeah, now I'm not a marvel expert by any means okay I. Don't know that I haven't seen all the movies I've seen all the avengers. and not out in a rush to see them so. You'll win this argument because I don't have enough history. I don't know the fat okay I. Haven't seen I've pricing half of them. Okay, so go. I'm going into this though okay a low underweight all right well, the thing is I've had this idea of an episode. That I'm GONNA do of retaliate instead of remaking a movie and reading a movie, you do a movie from a different perspective so I was thinking of like. If you took the avengers in switch it as Thanos, is the good guy and the avengers. avengers trying to stop his plan, but you have a theory. That Daniels is actually a good guy in the movies well. And I said this as soon as I finish the movie I was like well I mean if you just tell the story on the other side of it, Dan is not the bad guy and people act like I'd kick their puppy man because. In the version we see Thanos as the bad guy because we have relationship with all the quote, unquote good characters. We know them. We know their back stories. Again you can cry me on facts because I've only seen it once. But I just think I remember they. Nose went and destroyed a bunch of planets right, yes. Killed Lots of people. To collect stones. Because once you have enough stones, you then have control of the universe control everything, right? And the reason he wanted. Control of everything is because. Back on his planet. He saw die because it was overpopulated. There weren't enough resources for everyone, so not only. Did you see everybody die? He saw everybody struggling for a long time until they died. And, so he goes I. Don't want that to happen to the world, so he had to make the decision of I would rather collect all the stones and eliminate half the people in those people have a real shot to thrive and keep the planets. Then to not let everything die by itself anyway now I don't know that he was right or wrong ideologically. He has a point. I would even compare it to. Rough comparison. Here's here's your here's. Your headlines CAST. But by the way I don't think I think. She had a different idea. And I think if we saw before you point if we saw as a kid growing up, and why had to make tough decisions and the use that he went through to get to this point and feel this way. If that movie was from the very start and beat and his Hungary and he's like when I grow up. I'M NOT GONNA. Let this happen to the planet. Have to make the choice that some people have to die to save the others. I will rather than everyone die because i. don't WanNa see everyone die because that's what was going to happen. He saw that happened planet. Him, seeing hardship inspired him to do this. That's what's forgotten in this movie him seeing people struggling and dying him, seeing the super bad made him want to and stop that. So. Ideologically. He was different. We just saw the avengers as the good guys. We grew up with them. We know yea, a ca you? Are you GonNa? Really get from America. America I would say. In a different way the people now let's say with Krona virus going on people that are like you know what. Let's just let people go out and run the Co. we'd rather have the economy. Stay up and people go out and if they get sick, they get sick, but we'd rather see the economy thrive if people get sick and some dying. That's just what happens. I think that's a bit of to ideological differences. Some people go and keep everybody in. Nobody gets sick. We the economy crashes some go you know what if some have to die, so the economy can stay up then. That's like Anos. It's weird how that parallels now. It. Thanos like I would rather see. Some people go down, but. The basis of the reason that we exist as a society like to have a shot rather than. Not The perfect analogy, but still I can see. To. Ideals. Competing with. With each other and depending, who's telling the story, and what their situation as it could be right from either side I. Don't think that was just a pure villain. Then, I think if you saw him. GROWING UP I had to make those decisions because again the core of his decision was, he saw people dying and didn't want that to happen. Everybody else that's it. There's no gets no more than that. He saw death and destruction and didn't want that for everybody see I could see that, but I think there's a point where he kind of turns, and he ends up doing it at a spite rather than him, trying to save people and I think it's more becomes that. He wants to have all the power and. There's really nothing saying that by eliminating half the population that everything will be able to sustain itself, but there is saying that if you don't eliminate in, there isn't overpopulation that nothing will sustain itself. But what if we took that power in doubled resources? There is something else like that ended it for good credit new planet I. Don't remember the whole story here and what all I'm saying is. At the core of Anos. That's not a villain He only did all of that because he saw death sadness. Poverty. Did everything now. He may have made some wrong decisions and monks. Way could have been. We all are polluted with different. I've been guilty of a to. Kill people. As you grow, you have good. Things are coming to you a bad and you're trying to figure it out as you go. My only thing why and I may not be right all those facts I haven't seen the movie, but once. Is that Dana's. If shown from a different director writer, he's a good guy. But. This is the killing part that messes with people. Yeah, but if you don't think all of these countries are killing people for their own causes, anyway every country. They're all killing people for their own causes. Because, they don't want. He wanted to do an endgame was I don't you're now? You're I, don't even know. I'm not even talking about the story line. All I remember is going. That thanos. Only doing all of this. So everyone didn't suffer. He'd made the tough decision his heart. He'd rather see some people. Die, some people could thrive rather than everybody die slowly. So. Right or wrong? I'm not on. Team Thanos. But I definitely didn't think he deserved to be the the super villain that he was when the movie was out. And all I said, and it's funny. This last 'cause it gets brought to me all the time. All I said was I don't think he's the villain. If you tell us right from his side. But throughout history you can tell the story from almost anyone side. That's the villain of the good guy. No villain ever thinks they're the bad guy. By the way. They're all fighting for a just cause. In their mind. So and the good guys are the ones that win by the way throughout history the stories that we know of the good guys, the we one. That's why we're here. If we I drank a big boggling. Thing. Okay, but then that's that's not really what he wanted to go, but that's why I think that Dan how's. Is was probably a bad dude by the end of it. but I don't think he was a BA-. I don't think he was a villain for his 'cause. That's right. You've been even changed a little bit, but. Not A lot. Last thing I wanted to get into is I did a episode a couple of weeks ago about one hit wonder actors, and you actually submitted yourself for ban slanted. Yeah, was that on instagram store on instagram story, so people may not know, but back in two thousand nine. You're in a movie called Baynes land so I had five question for you about that movie. That was two, thousand, nine, two, thousand nine. That dopey hair at twenty nine years. Holy Crap Wow okay. Go ahead all right so ban slam two thousand nine. Did you auditioned for it? Yeah, we did. I. Did man have thought about this sense. That wow I did audition for that movie. was that like someone called me and said Hey. They're doing this movie. They're shooting and Austin because they can use the University of Texas theatre and music. And it was cheaper to shoot movies in Texas. The time now Louisiana, the big hub for movies was until recently. It's all about taxes right That's why is in Canada. For less. So. They're like they're shooting this. But they have a a role of a guy named Gordy which was my name at first who hosts the big competition? Have some lines your It's like at the time. It was like nineteen lines. It got cut way down to nine. I think by the time it was over. But if like nineteen lines, they need someone who's like. In his twenties, and it's cool, and I was like well. Not. So I went, and there was a long line wrapped around the building of guys that were good looking. Like lots of hair. Gel Lots of. And so I went to pair of jeans and a white t shirts. I didn't know what I was doing. I thought I. Remember Thinking. I was GONNA. Be Only addition because I thought they had ready for me. I was like Oh. I got invited this movie. With a bunch of people so I went into. This room is just A. Room a bedroom at a house. There are two people sitting behind the table now like okay rigid lines I didn't memorize mine I guess. Most people did because I'm a script in my hand, and so I was like Oh. Can you believe they're gonNA? Play the show you this with. Me and they're like all right. Thank you very much and I left. that. WAS IT I? Never thought I was GONNA get a call back because it didn't go well in the room I thought because they showed me no emotion nothing. It was like wow, that was great. They didn't have a greater good. There was like all right. Thanks a lot everything now walking. I was like day really sucked. And they called me back and they said Hey. You're one of the best ones come back again. Went back again. I was the only person there the second time I think they just had a spread out a little more and I got a call and said Hey, you're in in. You're considered because you have this many many larger, a principal actor, and so I had him on trailer I had I was on the biggest level with the lowest amount of work and money. Wow like I was. If in the a part of that movie was Vanessa. Hudgens it was Lisa coup phoebe from friends. It was Scott who is in front of that light? Forgot God's last name. So there were actors. and. Of the a principles I was the bottom of the barrel, but I was higher than all the extras and midst. Umbrella carrier to make sure my makeup when sweat I said I'm get on my clothes. A trailer is crazy. I got paid. Three or four thousand dollars a day. Oh. For about seven days. I remember making about Twenty Twenty, eight, twenty nine thousand dollars on that movie for a weeks work. That's pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't what they made obvious. But that's what I got. You still get checks from it. Yeah but it's like since yeah, three cents, twelve cents sometimes get a dollar, ten or something like that, so that was that movie? How many days did you actually film a week? I mean it was a week straight. The thing that stunk was. Again I was a principal, so they kept us all together. We ate together and again. I didn't know anybody I wasn't real actor I didn't know any of them, so they didn't really let me in the cold group and they were all pretty much. All the principal is like we're GONNA go play Super Nintendo and party. I was never invited anything. Because they didn't know me and also had the radio shows I do the radio show morning and go straight over some of the bonding stuff. It was late at night. I couldn't go to anyway but I never really got invited to do anything. Did you end up meeting? All co-stars Yeah, and let's go to join Nice. We sat in the makeup chair beside other for like an hour one day. She was Super Nice. It's really going. She played the mom on that that movie. There's only the only time we spoke, but yeah I met her best one hundred was okay. Scott. His last name, but he was, he was really nice. Are you surprised has a eighty one percent rating tomato? Yeah, WOW! I'm I was surprised that it when it came out that it didn't make more at the box office. because. I don't think it did well. I mean five million opening weekend and twelve million Russell run. While, it was up, so you're talking about what they didn't do that well financially, but it kept getting shown everywhere every time I would see. Like a weekend of rare weird movies on Disney would be like showing movies all it would pop up. That's why I I saw it on TV. And now we'll get checks on it here on TBS. for some reason it still airs occasionally because people send me pictures of my big curly hair. Yeah, sometimes movie channels will back up and put it into rotation, which sometimes people say like these movies bomb, but they ended up making money back when they get put into syndication and stuff like that. Well, this was. No big financial risk for The movie makers mean for making a movie was expensive I'm sure, but I'm saying it wasn't like one hundred million dollar movie and twenty million. It wasn't waterworld. so. That was fun. I forgot has been a long time. and. Then Would you ever do another movie? It's just the time you have to be on set and shoot things ten eleven twelve times. Sure. It will be tough to do it right now. But I could if it was the right. Role. You get offered stuff. Small stuff but I. Don't put myself in the mix for either. You mostly have to audition. Even some of the big actors have to audition for stuff. Yeah and. So I, don't get offered stuff. As far as movies that people would see, but I do offered audition for stuff and I. Just never want to go do it I the only thing. I could offer like super indicate type stuff. Can they just want anyone to be in it? That will promote it, so that's like hey, goodbye talks about it. People may see it, so the answer is no not really. Right well there. We go I'm big movie star. Movies. Movie Star Ever burst actor Nice. Hanging out. All right. We'll talk to you later. Alright, right? That's the episode for this. We hope you enjoyed that one before I. Get out of here. I gotTA. Do My Graham shout out of the week today. It's going to at. Boating Words on Instagram Aka Ryan Garcia who posted on Instagram story that he was listening to last week's episode, says there's Monday morning ritual, so thanks Ryan for listening every single week. If you want to Instagram, shadow or twitter shadow all you have to do with either tag, mean your instagram story or tweet me at Mike Bistro try to reach. We post those in my story as I see them, and then I'll give you shout on next week's episode and I got one other thing to ask you guys so I want bobby to know that people listen to this episode that I. I didn't waste time and that I can get him to come back and other episode I need you guys to do is go to his instagram at Mr Bobby bones and tag me in a comment saying that you listen to this week's episode to just whatever posts up there right now. When you listen to this episode, just say hey. I. Listen To you on movie. Mike podcast and tag me and that, so we can let them know that you should come back can do another episode all right do that for me. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you guys next week later.

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Sample Excavator 03: The Isley Brothers

Rock N Roll Archaeology

00:00 sec | 6 months ago

Sample Excavator 03: The Isley Brothers

"Hi Welcome to episode three of sample excavator. I'm your host Angelo Roberto a simple archaeologist digging through sample and production history to piece together the stories behind the world's because records this week will be a bit of a longer episode than usual because we're discussing one of the most influential artists and sample history. It's almost a rite of passage for hip hop artists to sample this group. And because of that their discography has been sampled a total of eight hundred twenty three times over the past four decades by everyone from the notorious B. I g Kendrick Lamar in case. You haven't guessed already. This group is the legendary Eisley Brothers formed in the early fifties by brothers. Kelly Rudolph and Ronald Eisley. The Eisley Brothers started as a Gospel Group. They added a fourth brother Vernon and continue to perform gospel until his death in the late fifties they started experimenting during and through the sixties incorporating elements of soul funk and pop to the records enjoying top forty charting success. While signed to motown records in the seventies. They added more brothers the group Ernie and Marvin Eisley and even a brother-in-law Chris. Jasper and further delved into rb Balladry and rock. As a six part band. They enjoyed success through the seventies and the beginning of the eighties before splitting up in nineteen eighty three. They're very sound the treasure trove for producers in the nineteen eighties and nineties to mind for samples. Both there faster. Funky grooves and slower ballads have used hip hop often with heavy manipulation. More so than we've seen thus far in this podcast with over eight hundred record samples. I won't be able to go over everything but hopefully I can provide enough of an overview for you all to firmly grasp. How influential is e brothers are we of course must talk about what? I like to call the big three when it comes to is brothers samples between the sheets footsteps in the dark. And that lady will go in reverse chronological order starting with between the sheets which was released on their album of the same name in one thousand nine hundred three one of the last projects. All six members worked on together between the sheets is a slow in sensual ballot that groups with the keyboard synth and drum machine to use of Chris. Jasper the opening measures have been mined extensively. Take a listen. Most stores do share. Yes yes no majority of you have figured out the song that sampled this most famously. But that would be a bit too easy so while I will get to that song eventually for those of you who have may not figured it out yet. I I want to look at a few less obvious or less known uses the first one. We're going to examine is actually one of the first songs ever to sample between the sheets. It's the nineteen ninety quote Unquote Hootie Remix of a tripod. Quests hits Song Benita Applebaum after their nineteen eighty nine debut album people's instinct of trouble in the paths of rhythm originally included on the twelve inch single release of Bonita album alongside the album version and an instrumental with their song. Mr Mohammed on the flip side. It was later released on a full length. Remix album in one thousand nine hundred ninety two properly entitled revised quest for the seasoned traveler as genius dot COM puts it this is less of a remix and more of a sequel to the original. Benita Applebaum with new verses and lyrics continuing the story the use of between the sheets is unmistakable. Matt put an apple the Nida apple way back. The next usage will look at is more subtle and appeared on a much more popular song than the tribe remix. It's none other than funk defied by debris released on the of the same name it helped debris become the first solo female rapper in history to go platinum with over a million copies sold produced by Germain do pre on his so so Def records label it. Beautifully funk defies the original beat to be a near irresistible jam. Of course we now have to talk about the notorious. B I G. He uses the sample on his mega. Hit Big POPPA written by himself and produced by Puff Daddy for his nineteen ninety four album ready to die. This is by far the most successful and well known use of between the sheets also just as a side note the second verse on the song has got to be one of the smoothest in rap history. So if you haven't taken a close look at the lyrics or rhyme scheme in a while. I would suggest taking a quick detour and looking them up. Place with styling. Greece allow me to Liverpool dishes in a market stylistic change and biggies discography big. Papa was seen as the East Coast answer to the West Coast g funk being popularized by Dr dre with it's less aggressive slowdown style and laid back delivery. The HIP hop of the early eighties sample disco funk of the seventies while the harder rap of the late eighties early nineties sampled more rock the G FUNK air took a new approach however going after lesser known markedly slower aren't being soil samples from labels motel from that tradition. Big Papa was born. Interestingly Enough Germain DuPrey the producer behind funk fide by Brat also later worked on a remix of big POPPA to songs in the same decade using the same sample worked on by the same producers giving next. Let's look at footsteps in the dark. The feature track from the is brothers. Nineteen seventy seven hit album. Go for your guns found for so long while dozens upon dozens of songs have sampled this incredible slow jam. We're just going to look at to the most famous one and one of its most recent uses. If you haven't figured it out already this song with its unforgettable guitar part and sparse but marching drumline was the foundation for ice cubes breakout hit. It was a good day off of his nineteen ninety-three Album Predator been a morning. What to breakfast in a two thousand five interview with now defunct Music Magazine blender Ice Cube talks about his inspiration for the song. And where the use of the sample came from. He says the idea of sampling footsteps in the dark came from hearing. Can I kill it by comptons most wanted which samples the Eisley brothers for just one verse in the middle of the song blending the melody from footsteps with the drumline from fool yourself by little feat ninety nine suit once again? It's not keeled. Get A ski before like Soda. To skip into called the. This sounds solving fucking. That made it easier to get her. Was the start dragging the movies. I said Okay super-quick Quick Sidebar the drumline which you just heard from for yourself as a heavily sampled track in its own right. Used many times throughout hip hop history. Ironically it's the same drumline that makes up the instrumental to the original version of Benita Applebaum by Tripod quest which we looked at earlier when talking about between the sheets. I hope at this point you're realizing how connected music can be when viewed through the Lens of samples back to footsteps in the dark. One of the most recent uses of the sample was by thunder cat. Who Used It on his twenty fifteen song them changes on his album. The beyond or where. The giants Rome. He only uses the drums. However looping the intro to create the backbeat for his song take a listen palm part off by the third and final song by the Eisley brothers that we're going to look at is that lady which is actually a nineteen seventy-three cover of their own song called who's that lady originally recorded in nineteen sixty four. The original is much more bare bones and laid back with the nineteen seventy-three version utilizing more modern equipment and sounds like electric guitars and synthesizers. This song has been sampled markedly less than the rest of the is brothers discography but the two main times it was sampled. Were quite incredible. I we must look at the Beastie boys. Three White Boys from Brooklyn are definitely not what you'd picture in. Discussion of hip hop virtuosity but the weasel themselves into that discussion as their nineteen eighty-nine magnum opus Paul's Boutique album has been more and more respected as a pivotal masterpiece in hip hop history. They had incredible commercial success off their nineteen eighty-six album licensed to ill which likely came from the fact that they were one of the first white rappers too seriously release rap music to the masses giving them a jump start when it comes to crossover appeal at the same time from a critical standpoint. Licensed to ill was still phenomenal. Produced by Rick Rubin a simple legend who will come up many times in this podcast if not have his own episode. The album demonstrated sample techniques unheard of at the time. This may have been because the Beastie boys actually started out as a punk rock band playing instruments while rapping all rage against the machine. Fifteen years later but either way Rick Rubin tapped into not just soul aren't and funk records but rock as well sampling. Everything from led Zeppelin to war for Paul's Boutique. However the Beastie boys were no longer working with Rick Rubin and wanted to make an album that was less appealing commercially but would be critically acclaimed as a hip hop masterpiece produced by the dust. Brothers and Mario Caldo junior also known as Mario See. The album contains samples from one hundred five different songs in total making it one of the most sample heavy albums of all time the final song alone which is a nine part suite entitled B Boy. Bouillabaisse contains twenty four samples the Beatles sly and the Family Stone Eisley brothers. James Brown Rose Royce sugarhill gang and dozens upon dozens. More are sampled throughout this project. In fact there isn't a sound on the album. Besides the vocals that isn't comprised of some sort of sample section D of the nine part closing suite is where that lady is sampled creating the background for a blistering. Mca Solo rap. Jill has exc much more recently. Kendrick Lamar used the same sample from that lady for his multi. Grammy Award winning hit single. I released in two thousand fourteen visit the freemen chatroom Benicia but I know guy say me million a bow at the holy water. Don't go dry. Kendrick Lamar actually personally visited Ronald Eisley to get permission to use the sample on his song and he talked to new musical express a British music journalism site saying quote actually had to go to Saint Louis and get the blessings from Ronald Eisley. That was a trip. We got the studio and just vibe talked about how things were back then and how they are now and can actually hear him on the record with a few atoms that he actually did. We got it on camera and things like that. It's a beautiful thing and quote the simple mixed. The song prideful up lifting a fast paced banger. That still has melody in grew sounding new and old at the same time the innovative sampling in production. Like at worthy of all the awards received in my opinion was Atlanta city. Thomas this last as mentioned at the top. I'm leaving out literally hundreds and hundreds of samples and songs simply because there isn't nearly enough time to go through. Every song has sampled the ISO brothers. But hopefully this was enough of a primer for you to fully appreciate their impact on music. I'm sure they're discography. We'll be sampled for decades to come as new artists attempt to insert themselves into this piece of hip hop history. You can find me on twitter and Instagram at I dig IT I. That's D I G I t one s t all one word on both platforms and you can find the podcast at simple excavator on both platforms as well if you are enjoying the project please. Rate comment and subscribe on your preferred podcasts streaming service. You can support the podcast for as little as twenty five cents an episode on patriotic. This really helps keep the podcast above board as I go through proper channels to pay for the songs in order to legally use them in the show which cannot have quickly. Several excavator is researched written and recorded by myself and produced by Guy Tannenbaum. The theme song was written and produced by Rama's you can email questions suggestions. Comments and concerns to these sample excavator at gmail.com songs from today's episode can be found on nearly all major streaming platforms and links to the articles and interviews. Referenced can be found in the show as usual. Here's a sneak peek at a song that we'll be looking at next week until then keep on digging arrange came my name is Demon Carter. Aka. And I'm nate. Leblanc two thirds of the crew that host the dead rat pot. Our Third Co host is internationally acclaimed hip hop writer. David Ma as the neighbor. The gross suggests deadline rap. Pod Is a podcast where men of a certain age discuss debate in dissect rap news while we are somewhat classicist in our tastes and grew up listening to hip hop from the eighties. Until now we're also interested in the music's present and future over the past one hundred fifteen episodes. We have been interviewed rap. Legends like Paul Del the Funky Homo Sapiens Onta- Keith. Dj Premier even the Proto rap group. The last poets. Just we also make it a point to talk to writers commentators and creatives shaping the genre. We've interviewed journalists. Invest selling authors like Nathaniel Friedman. Jeff Weiss an of an atom. Man's back and as nate mentioned even though we are products of the eighties nineties. We take time out to talk to some of the most important voices and wrap today groups and individuals like little brother open. Mike Eagle Billy. Woods and rap. If you don't recognize any of those names that's okay because what we love most on this podcast to introduce old school fans of rap music to new music that we know new episodes every week on Thursday we are the dead Bod pod.

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373: Brendon Walsh

Duncan Trussell Family Hour

00:00 sec | 9 months ago

373: Brendon Walsh

"Speaking GonNa help you. Yeah we were just looking for to pick up. Maybe a half a dozen Salamis like eight to twelve inches. Oh okay We're looking for a specific brand or something or more just like the size and the girth or like the hell tickets or whatever with okay because The person that just Was just speaking to you. Has this election Salamis here with all kind of various brands? But they're good. Okay because we have a weird insertion hit options for you. Okay and the weird insertions. There's five steps that I'm GonNa play the five steps for you real quick just to make sure it sounds right okay. I'm sorry the what five steps. What are the five steps here? Here say here five. So that was the five steps okay. I don't quite know what to make of that. Well we can have some fun and lots of lots of fun and then step two is. There's so much we can do and my wife step three was Stu misstep four four is more can give you more step. Five is the time is right. Okay so you think the Salaam the selection. You'll have will be good for the steps. I'm not quite sure how that relates but okay we'll come to do. We need to buy the Salamis now. You should be fine if we're under eighteen. You should be OK. Okay well thanks. We'll soon dumb fucking happy stays on for the the five steps that my friends with the sounded. Today's guests Brennan Walsh and he has started a brand new podcast. He was formerly one of the Co host of the award winning nationally. Lauded podcast the bone zone which was described by the New Yorker is the premier intellectual podcasting. Today he has moved on since then and he started another mind-bending Lee Brilliant podcast called the world records show where he interviews mainly quantum physicists who go through their favorite records of atomic part of cold distribution. He's with us here today. 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And if you go to squarespace dot com slash family out and use offer code ffamily are at. You're going to get ten percent off that domain or a website. Whatever you choose you can have with squarespace dot com. Thank you squarespace. What's up my fellow. Cia agents today. We've got Brendon Walsh. Here with us today. Many of you know that Brennan Walsh also known as operative four six seven eight nine has been resistant to some of our salvation mechanisms. And this podcast was yet another attempt to finally get him to bow down to the hoofed one who wanders in the woods so that we can all get back to project one eight six five nine seven three. I'm sorry to say that this particular episode. We weren't quite able to convert him. But I think we got close so even if you're not age and if you're somebody who dislikes the sound of someone being tranquilized rolled around and be stingers indoctrinated into deep very subtle vibrant Tori patterns designed to pull them out of the particular note of the simulator that they're trapped in so they could last finish their mission is the Manchurian candidate that we always wanted them to be what I'm saying for all you who aren't in the particular branch of the CIA that I and most of my listeners are in is that Brendan is a Manchurian candidate. And we've been trying to get him to run for president of the United States for the last fifteen years but he keeps wanting to do podcasting and he wants to be a comedian. And until at last we finally break through whatever residual resistance mechanisms are clogging up his psyche. Then unfortunately we're going to continue to be thwarted by his Career as a comedian in a comedic writer which is really good at but he would be a better president and once he becomes the president didn't last he could finally bring the apocalypse to this planet. And we by we. I mean those of us from Saturn will rise again from the subterranean layers of the earth and have a never ending civilization. That was born from blood. So if you're into that sort of thing you're going to really love this episode of the but if you just like classic comedy you're GonNa love this podcast as well because Brennan has got to be one of the funniest people I've ever met on this planet. That's a joke. Of course he he's president he's supposed to the president and he's supposed to be the last president so. Fred's here we go. We're going to jump right into this podcast. Let me remind you that. We've got a wonderful shop located Doug Russell Dot com a tremendous. Thank you to my beautiful patriot. Subscribers if you want to subscribe to the D. H. over Patriot and get rambling monologues for me and access to our discord server head of patriotic DOT COM for slash H. You'll also get commercial free episodes of the Doug Trussell family. Our podcast not to keep waving the patriarch flag in the wind. But Brennan has a brand new patriots where you can listen to amazingly hilarious prank calls like the one you heard at the beginning of this episode. Along with his new podcast. I will have all the links you need to get to Brennan's patriotic over at Duncan Trussell DOT com. And now everyone please welcome to the D F h the Great Brinda Walsh Brennan Walsh welcomed at the duck at trestle family. Our podcast top podcast and the nation. It's good to have you on the show. Thanks for having me Dunkin. I can't wait to get into the things I want to promote here. Let's get into. Let's start with the promotion. What he got nutrisystem I'm not officially the spokesperson for nutrisystem yet. Nutrisystem for those of you at home. Who Don't or in your car or at work if nutrisystem is it's a weight loss plan. It's like Jenny Craig or weight watchers. I assume Here let me just pull that up here but neutra systems on twitter and so I started following them. I started tweeting overweight. I've gained some weight over the past five years or so. Stuff your shirt. I I have a when you gain weight. You start to sweat a little more so sometimes I will put a towel neath my shirt. You put a towel. That shaped like a So anyway I'm trying to get sponsorship from nutrisystem. The way it works is they. I want them to send me some free shit and I'll eat there. And if you're listening nutrisystem send me some free. Shit how all your fucking crap exclusively and then when I lose some fucking wait. I will tweet about it. Fucking do instagram stories. Whatever even if the food tastes like Shit. I'll still say tastes chair. I won't take any photos of myself. Your shirt backstage in the belly room. Yeah the belly room. That was a show. It was a belly show. You can't do that. That's not and it's not okay to do this. Promo Bullshit on my show at the very star told me that I could come on here. I didn't tell you to come on here and do your fraudulent fat. It's not fraudulent. I am not a spokesperson. But if you're listening to this and your your twitter please tweet nutrisystem tell them to make me their official spokesperson or they don't. They don't even have to make an spokesperson. I'm happy to do del Toro. And she gave you a fat suit. Yeah she does. Work for Benicio Del Toro Guillermo del Toro. I don't care whatever is there. Some frequently asked questions about nutrisystem. What is this are there restrictions on who can get this are there are they're doing we don't just don't do ads normally? This isn't an ad this is a frequently asked about you okay. Well here's okay. People ask me. They Brendan are there restrictions on who can use nutrisystem to lose weight and generally. I answer them with people with certain conditions may not use the weight loss program these include but are not limited safe new ads. People are GONNA listen because they're going to turn off if you're pregnant allergic to soy ads. This isn't an ad this is more of a warning. It's fucking ad but this is a warning stop. You're doing ad but if you want to use nutrisystem on your podcast pregnant did you. Shouldn't you it people going on? What are you doing my podcast out yet but it will be out soon and I will. I guarantee you talk about the very beginning. This isn't an ad. Then listen to my podcast as well. It's world record podcast. What are you doing? You're supposed to come on and like do jokes to be funny and Shit. You don't start plugging shit. Why figured we'd get the business out of the way up top all right we got we say you got to cut to commercial the black. Tux believes every. 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Walsh tap comedian host of you're one of the CO host of your mom's house. That's Tom. Sikora SAGIR SEGARRA. I'm trying to talk a lot of people. People do impressions of Your Voice Right Sometimes. Well if this is the way I don't I'm not GONNA do your. I'm not because my show not invading. I'm not I appreciate it Everybody if you're listening out there. Hey everybody if you're out there listening listen to the Duncan trussell. Family our podcast. Because it's a great listening. I invited you on the show. You start off by hijacking it with your nutrisystem commercial. I know you're sponsored by them and I know that's the bureau fraudulent fatman fat. You know I mean scam nutrisystem. And you'RE GONNA get in trouble for not scamming part of that so you don't listen. I'm trying to get free shit from nutrisystem so I can lose some fucking way. You're wearing a fat suit but I'm not. It's real okay. Smells horrible. By the way. If you have a condition requiring a seal iak or Ketogenic Diet Ketogenic. Don't you can't use an interesting side? No one's listening. Listen by now people like I'm not gonNA listen to children under. Fourteen years of age may not be on nutrisystem program either adolescents aged. Fourteen to seventeen require a specific meal plan and physician approval. So if is there are kids. Allowed to listen to your podcast allowed. I don't I don't know. Is there a rating system? There should be oh great. No I'm saying in general. Don't you agree you have your father? There should be a rating system for PODCASTS. Will they do it for movies? They do for. Tv Okay so podcast. Let's say my daughter or your son logs onto a podcast and the podcast is about. It's a L. S. C. It's a mature podcast. But what if I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE PODCAST? What if they log onto? Its No if one of our children if the podcast is about an odd and it's about A. N. A. L. E. Just say analyst do you. Are you comfortable with that? I don't know I wouldn't. I wouldn't do a podcast about an analysis. It's boring it's anal. Sex is what I spelled K. I'm not doing this comedy routine we had me on here. Let's cut to brass tacks here. Man I did a Promo for okay here. We go this. Can I play this on your podcast? I gas why not fuck it? This is a bad idea. Man I fucked up. This is a commercial for the longest. Human poop recorded was twenty six. You know I could add Jimmy. Carter's nephew on this week. Named the athletes. Hi This is Brendan Walsh and welcome to the world record. Podcast on this podcast. We talk about world records. We set world records. We break world records and sometimes we'll even call US Alami store my wife is. I want to big tax. Cut it off. Just got it off. Stop I have a podcast? It's not it's I do have a Patriot on hold on. We got to cut to commercial friends. I don't want to Brag but I was invited to over thirty nine high level celebrity parties. 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I thought they shipped in the dead fish while we chop them up and stuff but sometimes kill no sometimes for the Sushi to you have to kill a live fish. That's what that's the way we do. What are they coming a guy named Jerry? What are they in? The Guy who brings into fish is named Dave. My fish is named Jerry. Sorry hold on Dave brings in like the like bit like when you go like Shit. That fair like in the garbage bags will no. He doesn't bring in Goldfish. This is for the Sushi at at the grocery store. Yeah the guy comes in. He's got a van. Got The fish in like You know those rubbermaid been sure you get it. The container store share or Bed Bath and beyond. They sell stuff like that too or even here. I think has like some clear ones. Maybe they're from Ikea. Whatever so he brings in fission these cruiser so they're yeah they're whatever may be twenty gallon containers get Kelly's you Achilles although he brings them they're alive and there's honestly they're not when they're in the containers. There's there's two. There's a lot of fish in the container like they couldn't. It's not like a fish tank with only a few fish. Limited is a bunch of them in there but when he gives them to us he hands them to us one at a time. I don't know it's just the way it's been since I've been there so he hands a fish hands me officially handed to another guy who hands it to Tom. Who's the head guy and Tom will either kill the fish? Hims- likes chop its head off or Terry. Who's the other the assistant manager? He'll hand it off to Terry or I don't kill the fish personally. Do they end the fish off? He hands it's like. Did you ever see a fire brigade like you know back in the olden days potato hoses so they would have a bunch of people with buckets? And they passed the buckets down the line. So imagine instead of buckets. It's live fish. Wanted a time to get it from the van to the Seafood Department. Why not just bring the bend killing area because he has to do? It doesn't want to bring them all. It's heavy probably it's full of water but you could use a cart. We don't have a cart and He might have a kind of fish. Code or ordinance or something. It's a union thing in union fish seafood Seafood Union. Wow cool okay I get it. So whatever man. I'm down with unions. So you guys passed the fish down like a five one at a time and then there's a guy how do you kill him? Cuts their heads off. Mostly some of them. They don't sometimes the Fish Lake Hill. I guess what do you call it like bludgeon it or something because some Sushi? They need to be killed a certain way. Okay like yeah. I've heard that is there is a Drennan adrenaline chrome. Is that what it's called a Dreno adrenal chrome? Yeah Chroma fish right so if you kill the fish if you get the fish scared and it dies really stressed out. It releases came from. Well they have it in people and other animals. I ordered two ounces of adrenal chrome from that group website. How does it did you take it? I haven't taken it yet. I'm waiting for the next Valentine's Day so when you're let me ask you this year working at a Ralph's which is in Hollywood. It's not Ralph's. It's an independent. I shouldn't say the name of the place since you're against like promoting places okay. Nope it's not a Ralph's. Atari aroused Hollywood hills area and one of the things I love as you talk about some of the celebrity clients that come in. Yes will you tell the story of when Tom Cruise came in to order fish? When you were there yeah well Tom Cruise the way and this. If you live in Hollywood you get this a lot every place that every business like a restaurant or grocery store. If somebody like beyonce Tom Cruise wants to come in. They have people call ahead Generally after shut the place down for a little while I mean you. Don't clay like yeah. Well they just locked the door and people have to the soda. Nobody else to leave. Well THEY START. They let people out But there's shouldn't be anybody any other customers in there and so they generally give you enough time. They call ahead a few hours or who caused the celebrity. 'cause themselves no they're assistant or somebody their system. I mean they St- identify themselves. Generally anybody could call store and say I'm Tom Cruise's assist and coming in to get fish. Well they could then. Tom Cruise wouldn't show up an hour later but they would have shut the store down. I'm just saying it's a way that like chaos people could fuck ever. Okay well if you're listening in the kind of thing you think would be funny. Don't do that. I guess because we do have businesses to run. And if somebody for example if the surviving beastie boys we're GONNA come into your shoe store. It would be bad for business if Some kind of crank had you shut. Just put yourself in their position. You shut down your door. I'm just saying it seems like but if the surviving beastie boys were coming in you you say to those three Beastie boys in one passed away where a surviving humans you know the two surviving Beastie boys surviving people because we all humans die so we don't have to say surviving. The beastie boys the two surviving members of the Beastie Boys. I think is a legitimate way doing and I did meet them No. I didn't meet them. Go ahead you act like they're gladiators. No I just think that it's acceptable. I mean that's a good way. We could call somebody and ask them. I don't WanNA call anybody. I don't WanNa do that. I don't WANNA call them and ask if they think the beastie because survivors the two surviving members of the beastie boys. What should they be called? Oh look there's a surviving survival squirrel outside. Your girls have died arguable. Serve US surviving poodle. There's poodles it's ridiculous. Well if yeah if you had a group of poodles and one or more of them died and then there were some who were satellite. It's called species. Okay I'll I'll choose my battles on this podcast. GonNa die in this hell. Yeah and Diane they sell. Like one of the FBI's he I mean it's not. It's not if you're going to start making jokes about you. Know deceased beastie boy. I'm probably GONNA walk here just. Fyi Fair warning. You know. It's just like the alchemy of comedy. Sometimes we try to turn sadness in gold and sometimes it doesn't work. Yeah like don't get me started on President Chito out there. Oh my God. You're new. Trump staff is cracking baseman. It's so funny. What is that thing you say on stage by mckellar every time well I say like okay If you have a lot of stuff is at the where I'm like okay. Well because he's given a state of the union okay and it's more like A So maybe before you give a state of the Union address maybe look in the mirror. Make sure you don't still have cheeto dust on your from. I guess you're bobbing for Cheetos. But he does and then it's like okay. I've heard of people with dark circles under their eyes. But how does our president have white Oracle's under his eyes is it because he gets too much sleep? No I do well rested. Maybe I this this kind of brings me to the core of what I wanted to talk with you. Which is like you know me. I'm up there man right now. I'm doing like my like thirty percent of my material is just math. Just doing what I think. Like funny equations. You know seven plus three minus two. I haven't worked the joke out completely but it's pretty good. You know a you know a word that like for eating and stuff. I'm working and is it a here tonight. Maybe give you say this is what popped in my head. Yeah please I love. You could make it a Oral Sex joke has it's like now or eaten ass that's popular comedy but I but it'd be more clever. 'cause you're like you know what I did to that ass? I seven plus three minus two. That's what you do ask people because then you get that nice pause from the audience. I don't know man to me. That's not funny eight. It's not my style but for you what I'm really blown away about is like you. It's like very courageous. What you do with your president trump jokes. Yes number one. No one's doing it like you did on late night. Tv thinking the daily all what you think of any late night host. When have you seen since trump was elected? Anyone I've seen some like you know very low key jabs that they would give it any. You Know Obama would get them and Clinton. Yeah but I'm saying like you're up there on stage and you you're doing like at least thirty minutes of like just all trunk joke. Why do yeah I mean in an hour and a half? Most of my sets are our thirty hour fifty. And I'll dedicate I'd say it's seventy like seventy five percent PA. It's not just trump. It's the whole political system. No one's I've started doing Saying it's so fucking Edgy Dude. No one's talking and they'll be if you do come to a live show fifteen minutes out of a two hour set. I'll definitely there'll be fifteen minutes dedicated to Putra system because I did make a tweet it to them and told them that would talk about their product on stage. So I do some jokes about you know. It's like weight loss jokes but then I holed up a big pair of pants that are like fifty three hundred join. Great like the podcast is going good. We're getting heavy in deep political. Indeed you're one of the edges comics working today. Thanks and you bring it back to your stupid fraudulent attempts to get sponsored by nutrisystem. Just think what you just did. It is talking about my show. My life shows. I'm opening you've been doing live shows again. Yeah I've been doing live shows. You were just in Denver. It was great. How many shows did you do well? Originally we had seven schedule. Okay so is this like a Tuesday through Sunday kind of thing. I was still weakened thing we had seven show scheduled and then because it was like I guess the temperature dropped or something like forty degrees out there. So you know people don't like coming in to clubs when it's called and so we took it down to one show but the temperature was fine inside the club. Yeah but it's getting there dumb ass so you sold the tickets for the seven shows me a big fan of this podcast and I feel like I come on here. You're probably not even going to release this because you're gonNA listen to back fucking nutrisystem. Telethon Saana telethon but I would do that why are you self destructing. I'm saying you talk. You have people on this podcast and you talk about like a quantum physics or whatever and I come on I just mentioned one thing you start attacking me. I'm not attacking you. It's just you're doing commercial. Do Commercials on your podcast. I do I will not. I don't have a podcast yet. But it's on page on gray. The world record podcasts world record podcasts. Front okay you don't have to do this. I will say up front. Listen to Brennan's world record pockets if you love world record and everyone loves World Rack. They do okay. They've been around four. I'm going to say when the First Guinness Book of World Record sued this another thing. I started to talk about earlier whenever anybody does an impression of me. You know what the you know what it sounds like. We're doing impression on me. I'm trying to you. Yeah exactly everybody's like do and after listening to my voice. I do sound like that. I Sound Really Dum da and I'm going to. I don't know how to work on it. 'cause I'm almost forty Romo's thirty it off the Internet. You're always. I read a lot forms by. Do I go on Reddit? Conspiracy these conspiracy forms and get your nose in a book. I do I read. I Read People magazine. That's not it's based yet. Is You know what I'm reading right now Charles Dickens and I am. I've read it three times in a row. I Charles Dickens I'm reading Cookbook it's called Charles chickens about how to make chicken we're GONNA cut to commercial. Cut that part out now wasn't funny. I feel like we're just like you know we're not being naturally. He's got dude. You've gotta be funnier than this man like. You can't do this to me. Let's have a real discussion. You know we're both parents. I need you to do better than this. You're talking killing me airman. You can't do these commercials. You're doing chicken jokes. What are you doing? Gave the longest human poop ever recorded was twenty six feet long there. Do they name the athlete? This is Brendan Walsh. And welcome to my newest podcast. The World Record podcast on this podcast talk about world records. We set world records. We break world records. And sometimes we'll even call a Salami store. My wife is on the phone. She wants a big Salami. Do you have like the big? The big ones that are have liked that are just kind of like big long or we have some that are like that. We have percents And Italian that are large size. So could we use IT FOR WEIRD INSERTIONS? So subscribe to the world record. Podcast only on all things comedy and we're back with Brennan Walsh one of the top political comedians working. Today we are in the middle of a discussion about his edgy comedy. And I just want to ask you this man when you are you worried about putting yourself in danger with these like hardcore political jokes because it is not uncommon for Comedians till like potentially change the world to take down the system itself. And I see you up there pushing boundaries pushing limits. I watched a man come to one of your shows. Shit his pants and fall on the ground like screaming. Arrest this man. Arrest this man trying to have you arrested. You could cost him. The I don't know what you did. Does that happen to your a lot? Well I have a team. You know a social media type people to get publicity because Lenny Bruce. I don't know if you've ever listened to any Lenny Bruce Material is that a comic. He's a comedian from the fifties. Not Funny at all never funny never said anything funny but what he did was in the fifties it was illegal to say like Cock sucker onstage. He learned that went onstage. Said Cock sucker hired some news crews to show up and told the police in advance that he was gonna do it so he got arrested on stage. I gotcha got a lot of news coverage then everybody's like go see this guy. C. N. N. A. Saum and we're like he's not very funny but I guess he got arrested cool. Well I'm trying. We're trying to and it's not manufacturing it. Why would you nounce that on this? Show that don't you feel like that's going to mess up the fact because if people here like I would love to get arrested on stage. It's just hard because it's pretty much legal to say anything except except I want to kill the president. That's illegal to say. Yeah but so far. Haven't don't say that on this podcast. I really want to kill the president. Even say anything close to that. Jesus fucking Christ. I think if you say stuff about thrill to dude you can't fuck and do that Shit. I mean I can't do any of that. What you get with a system man. Trust the system. Are you fucking getting old so I can't talk about drill lake? Israel's perfect and the president listen to me. Listen to me everything that you're doing right now. It's knocking to work for you man. Trust me it's no big deal you're fucking talking about. Drina chrome gotta shut the fuck up about why people want to hear it like my fans. Do you fucking. Are you looking at my twitter following? You need to my instagram and make a choice man. It's a simple choice. You gotTA choose the right way to go here man. I'm you know what I'm rooting for you. And I keep telling him he's going to turn the corner. Don't worry and then you keep doing shit like that. It's just now stopped talking about on the podcast. But you're going to silence me like about it. Just three man okay. I'll tell you what. Start recording a podcast. You lead me into wherever a could ever. You WanNa talk about and I'll play along but meeting pitch meeting very important pitch meeting with in an hour so you have me for another forty minutes. Okay thanks man Kirk. Can you cut out the last twenty seconds? Whatever the fuck I tell us idiot gut fleet the fuck up man. And we're back with Brennan Walsh. We're just talking about a fish brigade now. We kind of lost track. So you're Italian. Fish store fish store where you work. You're saying that Tom Cruise celebrity. Tom Cruise came in to get some so the way it usually goes is whenever a celebrity of Tom Cruises caliber. Which there aren't many. There's Ellen is great beyond say Ellen's Great. Yeah Fiancee's great beyonce as great Jaylo even especially after the halftime a Jaylo. She's good. It doesn't really get much better than that. That's Tom Hanks. Levin speaking of Tom's Tom's of Maine four Tom Shoes. I heard those toms shoes. You know they have their whole thing is if you buy a pair of our shoes we give a pair of the poor people I heard. The whole thing is like have warehouses if she said. Nobody's getting dammit dude. Hold ON WE'RE GONNA cut to commercial. Just follow my lead. It's so simple man. This is your chance. We'll Tom Cruise Tom. Shoes is an honest kind of listen. The way my brain works is gotta get in line man just well. I can't stop free associated on your follow my lead and we're back femme crews came into the grocery soccer's came in the grocery store at all ahead. His people call ahead. He'll have a. I assume it's like an agent or his. I mean I'd say a bodyguard. Maybe I don't know he's very. He does have bodyguards so Tom Cruise his people call ahead. We get everybody out of the store. Put a sign up sometimes. Maybe like back in thirty minutes and Tom Cruise will come in. Yeah sometimes with. This kid slept them. They're he has a new. We did that one. Movie Eyes Wide. Shut other movies to either early in impossible. Impossible fantastic franchise. Is that the last movie. Never saw eyes wide shut. Did you see it? I did. And it's Kubrick's out. Did you see it? You must be thinking about something out then I is. What is what is called. Illuminate kind of an. Did you see it really? I wouldn't watch a stupid movie like that. I just do I watch. I thought I was like a good same colts kind of like that. Now I listen every single time I tried to do a fucking podcast with you. You try to do this. I'm not doing anything is bullshit. I'll start kirk is a Kirker Kurt. The beer handle the sound into staff. Listen Yeah do you have my name was Kurt. I would answer to Kirk or Kirk. Tell the fish story. It's scripted right. There Man Algorithms have shown this is going to be great on going to be great for you. Just do the fucking fish story to talk about the fucking illuminating. I'm not talking about Bloom Nada. You brought up Tom Cruise. Just forget about it. Isn't that about the Benatti? Something though made a mistake and he's paid for that's why they see them Kubrick. Yeah Trust is not why they fucking plan. Here's another thing before we start recording again. Just let it let it hold on a second. This is pretty big Yeah this this is a big one in. This is recent okay now. This is something that was not in the mainstream news. This just happened. In December December. Six two thousand Nineteen Winston Lawson said neighboring about you Winston Lawson secret service agent with John F. Kennedy in Dallas. Yeah dies so you're telling me the last guy. They finally got the last guy to keep you keep his mouth shut like he was probably playing ball for the last fifty years. And then for whatever reason I don't know if it's our own government or if it's the mafia but they killed and here's the worst part they Winston Lawson who had been a secret service agent for four years when on November twenty second nineteen sixty three. He was in an unmarked police car in Dallas. Just ahead of President John. F Kennedy's open limousine when he got shot. And the worst part is Winston Lawson who was murdered in December. He was ninety one so he definitely had grandkids. He was like probably was literally murdered. There's proof he was murdered while I mean come on but you know he was murdered or did you just ninety one year okay. We see murder by time. Why would they wait that long to kill him? Kurt just remember to cut all this out. We'll get the fish stories soon as he gets the shit out of it. I mean wake up like keys on ninety one year old man dies. And you say it was murdered murdered by the CIA. Alzheimer's was murdered by Alzheimer's disease. Let's see why would the CIA murderer because he probably knew that it was a setup that Kennedy was killed by the CIA but he was ninety one. Why would they wait? Mr Lawson's death. Which was not widely reported at the time was Blah his son. Jeff Yeah said Mr Lawson is also survived by his wife. Who's still alive? So that's they killed a Milan average. Trying to get clear and grandchildren's hey lawson he knows that Kennedy got assassinated. We'd better take him out. And then whoever has signed it you? It's like I'll do it well. He probably a lot of these guys for ninety probably retired. And obviously somebody pays you visit. They tell you to keep your mouth shut. And he's been playing ball for the better part of fifty plus years. He was about to leak. I think he probably was like you know what I'm getting up there in years. I can't keep this secret. Cia with Lyndon Johnson Killed President Kennedy. I'm going to come out and do a tell all just accepted by now that JFK was assassinated by the. Isn't that kind of public data. While I don't let me see if you're paying attention and I really mean this man you. Let's imagine this coronary artery disease. So that's probably like they have a gun. Mashed potatoes. I know it's a gun that shoots like it can cause heart attacks and stuff shoot him full of pork rinds. Come on this is where you know what man to me. Courteous letter to me. This is where you're the type of conspiracy theories you are. The things you believe in are actually to me. I think less scary than the reality of the situation. Which is that you literally. Someone could walk out and show a video on in the middle of the super bowl of Lyndon Johnson who having a meeting with lizards and the Lizard Selling Him we got takeout fucking Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson just like Wallace getting just ask fucked by a goat and Lyndon Johnson saying yeah. Let's do it. I'll do whatever you guys want. Okay so they're gonNA show a video of this long they could show that during the Super Bowl and there will be like for a moment outreach. There will be all over for a second. Like what the fuck was that video and then do you know what happened? There was some kind of deep fake. And then you know what happened. Nothing nothing will they do another eleven? Maybe and what distract everybody with another nine eleven. Your problems you think. They've gotta do these they don't have to. There's nothing anyone asked to do. There's nothing anyone has to do. The reality of it is from my perspective. You know and it's on one level. It's I guess you could say it's quite cynical. Is that on one level. We human beings are type of heard and we're being herded and by now were so many generations into being hurt animals that there is no longer than today. Interject with a joke That would be a good name for if you do an album about like herd mentality. Whatever he could call it. I heard that heard it through the grapevine. I've heard through the grapevine. Yeah but you spell her like that but you know what I'm saying that to me this is like the this is where I just saw. You know people listening at home or at work cutting but you said you Dunkin. Just this is just podcast etiquette one on one when you have a guest on your podcast. Don't say boo and give them a thumbs down which you can't even see. This is to me. This is where we differ conspiracy theorists. Is you think I'm not a conspiracy? Whatever you WANNA call the difference your you to me. Your estimation of what is necessary to confuse. Society is far greater than what is actually. You don't need to do a September eleventh. You don't need to do a fuck in this fucking that he didn't do anything all you need to do is like get them to all you need is like two generations where they think eating like five cheeseburgers a week make sent down get their metabolism slow and then like it doesn't matter and also like defunding edgy and make them dumber we yet over thirty years get it just get them on their phones get them nice flow and then get them nice and comfortable and then just kind of milk them and that's all you gotta do. You don't need to do any of this shit that people like you think they're doing. I don't really think you need to do sadly I don't think you need to do that. I think you can just Kinda like at this point. The machines running itself you can just sit back and milk the herd for whatever the fuck it is that. They're milking them for all right. Kurt we're GONNA answered that that'd be good. Hey Kurt did you heard me. Let's get the fuck ascona cake. Her heard visit Kurt or curd. But for real men. Let's just do an actual podcast. This kind of stuff. We just did. It doesn't need to be out there. Okay jump back into the fish story so Tom Cruise. I didn't say we're back. We're back so Tom Cruise comes into the fish store. Well it's a supermarket. It has everything he came in with his kids Kids names doesn't Madden does actually man. I mean like they just want to hear this story and he has one kid Surrey. I think her name is that he has with Katie Holmes. She wasn't there was the other ones that he adopted cooling children. Three game. Okay so he came and put it into the fish store. This is a really funny story. We scripted the whole fucking thing after you man. Not Tom Cruise a scientologist to just looking up on fucking he. I'm not going to get in. Are You fucking kidding? Me Fifty seven years old. He looks good. We're GONNA cut to commercials Tom Cruise and we're back his kids. Tom Cruise kids names okay. So he's there it's like his son is Think he's back conor cruise. Great Anne Isabella Jane Cruise. These are adopted. Kids that he has from. He was married to Nicole Kidman for a long time. That's they adopted those kids but then Surrey cruises story about the thing. Well because interesting store get shut down. He comes in to get the fish we shut. We close the store down. We know like officially closed down. Don't turn off the free. That's good. See that's where comedy. So let's see if we can combine the two if you're listening aspiring comedian. This is how your brain should work herd mentality and officially the official. That's if I was to put an album out about this story. It would be called the official story and I would spell it like an Irish last name. Oh Posture Fi F. I. S. H. And Fish Shell maybe keep with the beach team. Yeah I officially think you're hilarious. Thanks man I heard through the workers. Fear that thing won't work but I heard from a group of people. I heard that you're funny too. Thank you thanks. That's great. I don't know why you heard that saying heard. Because we're not GONNA do that thing which is going to be a funny podcast man so this is starting from the beginning right now. What we're starting right now. Like everything else is. Cut Out Man. It's GonNa take three hours or God damn it. We're going to cut to commercial whilst big thanks to Raytheon for sponsoring this episode of the F. H. Raytheon it's one of America's top defense companies. They're out there working super hard to keep America safe right now if you go to Raytheon Dot Com and you WanNa order if you have the appropriate licenses and security clearances. You want to order. Their new x class Hornet ballistic drown. Use OFFER CODE TO GET THIRTY PERCENT OFF. This ballistic drone is so advanced out people not just based on size but on age as well. Raytheon DEFENDING AMERICA AND WE'RE BACK WITH COMEDIAN. Brendan whilst I had no the Guy Who owns Raytheon? He's friends with my dad. My Dad owns Exxon. You knew that of course which is also that's helpful if you WANNA have a comedy career. Not that I've had anything and to me but I've had like kind of I guess you would call it an unlimited supply of cash from. It's not mine. It's my dad's that's why we're friends. Yeah you inherited all that money yeah It's funny because we and we get along fine but generally we looked down like people that come from because my dad owns Exxon. His Dad owned I guess he owned Exxon for Awhile to at. But we've been generational like wealthy and you inherited. Yep so you're kind of. Yeah but I work for that Shit Baby. I didn't just inherit like I had to like do beach trips instead of a so. I got sidetracked. Yeah the fish store you go. Ranker's Tom Cruise's son Connor. Admitting you fucking inherited money and you're doing outing me for being an inheritor. I'm not yeah. Yeah a lot of money though I've had and this is where it comes in if you want to pursue arts on rafts to so I do get day job but that's for material and finally you don't work at rouse Tom Cruise. I used to fuck it. Let's just let's just talk. We won't put the gas up. Fuck it. I'm sick of this shit so the Tom Cruise story were done with. Try to give a chance to break into the mainstream. You come in you talk about every single secret boy. Wrote down things to talk about. I just want to do a regular players an interesting thing. I know I won't talk about new system anymore. I do want to lose the weight but if system does want to send me freesheet. I'm not doing this pattern. Listen listen so here's something you hear of plus size models right plus size models. You've heard of those right. I remember when any set your Dick at the Bohemian Grove. We don't talk about anything that happens at the buying. Feel good when how about the time I took the tram. Today's also camp and the tram door open and he was slurping on on your penis. There's no I mean really what the Bohemian Grove is a getaway for that and I'm not even in the Bohemian Grove. I can go because my dad's interesting. Why can go because of my dad? Actually it's beautiful. We talk about your trump stamp. You WanNa talk about that. Why do you have an hour? I'm right above your but the CPAP okay. So so that's why you have the Owl God molecule. WanNa do it. Let's do it fuck it. You WanNa do all the secrets. Do all the secrets. I saw you getting Gang Bang by Dick. Cheney Condoleeza Rice was face sitting you and smothering you. What does this the ninety s again? All of a sudden Pearl Jam was playing in the background or something. Okay change in the so. There's plus sized models right or Miami not to play new here and this is why this is where I get like all this women's Lib stuff. This is why I think women's Lib is a little hypocritical because you're you're familiar with limit women's Lib. Hey what's pocket right now? Like how much cash now? Not The cash. I'm just curious what that interesting vial label to Drina chrome in your pocket and told you we can get from fish from sure fish. Mammals reptiles produce it. Okay but here's a thing. This is some of the hypocrisy from the women's movement that I would like to point out is there's plus size models for women. I told you you come to my podcast. We're GONNA do. The comedian thing was getting into a big deal. It's not a big because it's a real. It's too much to edit out man. I wrote the Goddamn Fish Store joke for you. You started pulling it off and then the next thing you know you do with them. What I'll let's switch the table astute anymore so let me get this straight Tom Cruise bodfish when it doesn't matter there's a long line of the whole thing is activating people. Are you kidding me? The whole fish store story is supposed to activate operative dum dum and you knew that so. That's why shit that's why there's shit and it goes. What do you think we're doing here? We're about to do project fucking Blue Beam. We're about to open up the entire motherfucking world so that we no longer have to hide in the shadows. I try to get you a yet. Another chance to fucking Dapa as where you don't out yourself a moment of redemption your fucking talking about what happened to Stanley fucking Kubrick. Are you crazy I need and the JFK Winston Lawson? Remember that name. God You can talk about and also if I don't WanNa get into it but nutrisystem if you pay for it as ten dollars and thirty six cents a day for like a personal plans to the fish store storm. That's so that winds up being kirk shit out and the fish store will you let me story ten thirty. I gotTa do this Shit. Well this is why okay so check this out and this is why I want system to send me shift for Free. Ten thirty six day. You know what the four weeks of that cost. Let two hundred eighty nine dollars and ninety nine cents a month yes. I don't think there's shipping so I mean nats they give you a deal because they say it's five twenty seven twenty five a month and Annette's crossed out and says to eighty nine ninety nine so maybe they're running a special right but my point is just send it to me for free and you'll get more people to eat your fucking cracked up when I'm posting pictures of myself when I'm all fat like a fucking whale because I know fucking self control and I eat like a pig just have to do this. Sorry Man I got to play this activation back here man. You're not going to do the dance all the money in the world. You're talking to you. Got All the money in the world. He's only me talking to you. Just don't talk about the ship. Weekly Man I'm not talking to our listen out to fucking open the whole thing okay. You're the one talking about leaning GonNa put it in there but you're the one oh conspiracy person by person. Second Layer Dick. So why sad to Kenny? Shot a guy in the fix to you remember that yeah and also Dick. Cheney did nine eleven and also was one of the engineers of nine eight. I'll tell you not nine eleven. Nobody has like nine inch especially not you know perfectly average five point one inch penis tram. What do I see? You're talking about? Like getting intro turns shit off if you got to do if you WANNA get in trouble though. Talk Talk grow grow. That's I mean I could talk about nine eleven all I want. Nobody's GonNa be shit or JFK. So you talk about bringing growth. You're going to get somebody's GonNa Knock on your door. Yes so I'M NOT GONNA say that. Who's Unit T? So you're working at a fish store. I'll just tell the story. Brennan used to work in a fish store. They used to supermarket and the Fish Seafood Department that fish supermarket and the Seafood Seafood Department. And that's also why I'm overweight because I see food eat it. I'm on a seafood diet. I messed it up actually. I'm on seafood. I'm not on nutrisystem yet but I am on the Seafood Diet. The way that works is when I see food I eat it. Six Plus four is ten minus two is eight and Brendan was at the fish store and they were passing fish to each other bucket brigades time Bucket Bucket Brigade style. One fish at a time at the end of the Bucket Brigade there was a man. Whose name was Jerry. Jerry whose job it wise Dave. I'm sorry my name is Jerry. The guy's name is Dave. Thank you whose job it was to. What kill the fish? Kill the fish and he would kill the fish for Sushi called and they had this shut down the store so the Tom Cruise could come in but we close it for. Yeah we get everybody out. Tom Cruise and his kids connor and Isabella water. No I haven't okay go ahead Kurt but Kurt in Rolette. Ain't that good. It is good. Is there electrolytes and Tom? Cruise Conor Cruise Isabella Jane cruise daughter came in and Ordeal Nice. He was real nice and ordered the fish. Well they went through the one up some other stuff. The official eleven eleven. And how many steps did they take down? I'll eleven who would see. I mean from the door to between six and seven hundred somewhere in the middle of more than six hundred fifty six six hundred sixty six steps to the maybe they never counted. It doesn't matter ordered the fish. Yeah he got Sushi and some of the Sushi. It depends on how you kill the fish. 'cause if you get the fish really scared produces this thing called a drina chrome well. That's what Tom Cruise wanted. Do I leave that? What he ordered. Stardom this episode that has been brought to you by V. L. M. Information Routing Technologies Vlan subscriber-based client centered information focused account guaranteed to give you the statistics on whichever demographic. You're most interested in watching if you want to analyze your demo market those targeted ads. They have they do have the best targeted. Ads Ends Right. They do a lot of people say that they're like they say their phone is listening to them. It's not because people will say they're like Oh. I was talking about sunglasses and then all of a sudden instagram. That's just an affected the mind right. It's like And these ads. They don't have to listen to you. They know you know like for example they know you live in Los Angeles. They know that California Sunny. They know you probably wear sunglasses. Anybody likes the Sun. The point is this. It's a great town alive man and I'll tell you this it's a great time to be friends with you. Nice to see you. You seem like you're doing much better. We've got a sparkle in your eye and I just I would love to hear you finish up that amazing story about the time. Tom Tom Cruise. Sorry yeah so he comes in well. Here's what we closed the store down. I the manager gets a call from one of his agents or handlers and handler. That's funny Chelsea Handler. No she didn't call one of his. She is good. Did you ever see? She's got that thing. I love whatever specials is called like Ghana do or no Uganda. Be Kidding me. Yeah Very Thi- if they bring back Chelsea lately which is kind of the Uganda. Be Kidding. Me title is kind of like our herd mentality or I heard through the grapevine and also what was the other one we said. Oh officially so this is my official. No Kurt Dote my yard of now dr now the electric and we're back with Brendon. Walsh Larry's comedian. How we were just talking about this hilarious fish store story remember. Well Yeah I work at a used to work at a grocery store in the seafood department and celebrities would shop there a lot and when they would before the celebrities would come if they were like Ellen Degeneres beyond say or Tom Cruise level. They're they're fun. I love that people would call in and they would call ahead so we could get everybody out of the stores. There's no lookie. Loos or TMZ or anything right and one time in particular. Tom Cruise was having a party. He wanted some Sushi just regular Sushi. There's no special way there would be a delivery delivery service. Guide Terry Terry. He had a van buckets nut buckets but more like do you ever go to the container store bed bath and beyond they have like bins with Lids and they'd be full of water. Maybe twenty thirty Gal. Now maybe twenty. I don't know how big the bins were repeat. Twenty thirty twenty thirty twenty thirty doesn't matter and then the fish. So they'd be chock full of fish. We'd all get an aligned. There's eleven employees in the Seafood Department. Yet there'd be a guy you WANNA be two feet two feet seven inches twenty-seven two feet seventy seven feet seven inches apartment he steps. How many steps do you think it would take to go from the beginning of the store between six hundred sixty five to two hundred and sixty seven somewhere or no? I mean. Six hundred and sixty five K? Terry now it's okay. It's and then. He took somewhere between six hundred sixty five and six hundred sixty seven steps into the store to the seafood counter. We would stand two point two feet seven inches twenty remember the number twenty seven killed the fish that would lead to jerry or no Dave. My Name's very right. Dave Dave would kill the fish he would chop them up and it's so she huge cut their heads off. And then he would slice them up the middle and remove their Remove the insides and could tell me again. Dave would do to the fish. He would cut the heads off the fish. Why why did they kill the fish for the Sushi for who is coming to get Tom Cruise so David what he killed the fish for Tom? Cruise Okay Brennan. Thank you so much for coming back on the show. That's Brendon Walsh. Everybody's got a new PODCAST COMING OUT. Called the world record podcast. It's going to be super funny and I guarantee you this super successful because you just did a fantastic job on the DVD F H Brennan. Where can people find you on twitter and facebook? I'm also I'm on the board of directors for Now my dad owns exa all right. That's great we'll cut that out. Go ahead and destruct. They were doing spirit cooking later. Gets it if you wanted? Spirits can bring them out of here. That's Brennan Walsh. Every other defined Brennan Dot Com.

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#1191 An Imbalance In The Force

The Adam and Dr. Drew Show

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#1191 An Imbalance In The Force

"Thanks for listening to the atom and Dr Drew Show on podcast. One well in this episode Adam them you get into great detail about what you call chick thing versus do. It's changing the game. I think actually you said it was. The force was out of alignment the forces out of a line. Here's some bring you back and alignment that's Pluto. TV everybody the leading Free Television Service Streaming Television Service Service where you can watch over one hundred channels thousands of movies on demand all completely free you just go to the APP store or Pluto does not ask for credit card. There's no cost you don't don't even sign up. Says No way for them to get. It is just an APP that you download and Kabuki. You immediately are watching hundreds of well over hundred. TV Channel One thousand movies on demand. It is easy is completely illegal. It's a great way to watch your favorite TV shows and hip movies for free catchup all those seventies TV shows out them. 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Good news the San Francisco Bay pledged alleged today that he will not prosecute any of these public urination or any of these misconducts in the streets guarantee. Out Pledging Okay Hey I'm really thinking a lot about male thinking female thing and in and how that's affecting things and so there was a British study and I'm gonNA paraphrase but More women are for clamping down on free speech on campuses than than men are not surprising for wireless. The guy saying hateful things the women are also kinda capable of saying things. Like the beastie boys are good and believing it and stop stuff like that so this little a little more thinking going on. That's a little less bridge building and a little more. I love the Beastie Boys. Okay nonsensical thank you but there's also an insane conviction you know which may in a weird way. Maybe women have a deeper conviction. Okay Okay I get that the biggest arguments I've had about how much the beach boys soccer with checks. Who Don't even listen to the Beastie boys and the more you tell them that the more they think they love the Beastie Boys? I wonder what that is well. They they're able to dig in deeper. Yeah you know what I mean like you talk to Kevin Han. It'll it'll be right up on the surface about listens. How often lessons are what he listens to? Whatever it is chick dink is a deeper dig? Dig In deeper if you you say to my son. Hey you can't do this. You do it next week or whatever. Put that away or whatever it is. He'll usually do it if dr she'll dig in deeper. Is that it male and this back to hierarchy again that males like responding to hierarchy. I mean may young third grade males preoccupied with clubs and things that's a normal development development. Well I don't know what it is but I will tell you this. A higher percentage of women think that we need to vet people who speak on campuses then then men do okay makes sense a luck. Here's what I tell people all the time. Either statistically a dead heat which would surprise me or men men think a larger group or in this case women do women have more Felix. That person comes in. They hurt people's feeling talk. Whatever that is okay fine fine now we have a whole bunch of dudes thinking like checks and now we're swayed now the balance by the way you nerds nerds watch all that God Damn Star Wars Bullshit Right? The balance is off in the universe. You fucked up the universe. We've convinced a whole bunch of dudes to think like Shit and now the balances off we've been balancing the there's an imbalance in the force you sure because because it was a fifty fifty thing dude start like dudes and chicks dot like checked couple of dudes thought like chicks and a couple of chicks dot like dude news but that that was that was a push. Now there's an imbalance in the force because we got a bunch of dudes who think like Chen Chang sure weighing yesterday leach from the plastics. Whatever it is whatever it is we have an imbalance? It's in the universe and balancing the force. I think that's what you're looking imbalance in the force didn't you. Didn't you send me an email. One of the women whether people I wanted to speak to as a whole thing about estrogen estrogen and estrogen and stuff. So there's another researcher out there looking at that. Yeah so it's it's starting to get into the that's getting into the vapors a bit to arm. Arm Count is down. Bros if I see I wouldn't Jizya around Berm count don't is down. dudes are turning into check and now legislators are following suit right. Because they're going to have the we we gotTA constituency look. The guys who are running. The colleges are following suit right okay. That's what you're seeing you you think this is like some sort of right left thing or Antiga thing. It's not it's chick think versus dude. Think will what I've always asked you. So what can be done first thing you have to do is recognize. There's a problem chick. Think in balance is fine. Chick think in terms of the line. Share the thinking thinking or the way. We're now going to start thinking not good. Maybe you can frame this phenomenon bitch tank and less offensive line. Maybe you can goes away but I mean we can describe the process of that. Think how would you describe more feeling oriented. It's it's like it's the way to solve the problem of too. Many black and Hispanic kids being suspended is to stop suspending black and Hispanic kits. That's the pro. Well know the first first thing is decide. Somebody's racist WHO's doing it. And then when you find out that it's the exact same levels with black schools with black administration then you go. Oh all right well still racist now. Let's just get rid of the rule and I. It's what's going on with the homeland. Oh I get we we have A. We have a mayor who thinks like a chick so Giuliani doesn't think like a cheque right. Yeah but Garcetti thinks like and why is it chick thing per se. I'm literally a curious because you don't want to You don't think he literally. It's gone down the road. What kind of Naughty Nice now not salute wants to go straight that guy up who wants to go discipline that person lea below? Yeah They Milan. Why are you being mean? It's it's calling. It's you're being mean because you're disciplining somebody God and it's ascribing like an attitude to everything like that person's mean that person's percents nights at person's good that person's bad instead of it's not. He's doing his job she's doing. What did I see some the the key California's compassionate state right? That's chick thing that's that's newsom. And that's Garcetti. Being checks dude dude. Think doot Ronald Ronald Reagan's dude think and Gavin newsom. Chick thinks back to buy. Do we make the universe lineup again to be aware aware while maybe after bottom I i. I don't know because our big plan is. We are going to get rid of overcrowded crowded prisons by making everything legal right or making nothing illegal anymore right and also also. I've noticed it's the solution to systemic racism. Yes just turn to. Don't don't look at test scores. Don't arrest anybody. Don't do anything anymore. And then there can't be racism there shall be anarchy but there won't be racist 'cause there's nothing because there's nothing there right. Yeah I was listening to Maybe Gary confined it but And I was listening to a Cossio. Cortez and Bernie Sanders going nuts. About stop and Frisk and the re Talkin Arkansas Bloomberg and basically saying racist. I'll let me give me chick Bloomberg when he stopped his no guns in the city. Stop and Frisk thing incarcerated thousands and thousands of a black and Hispanic men. So He's a racist. Okay just incarcerate. People are walking around in sweat pants. Who didn't in fact have a gun or drugs or you get hit incarcerated because you've got stopped you got incarcerated because you've got stopped and you had a gun? That's what got you incarcerate. Not Getting Stop didn't get you incarcerated. Yes right well you. Aren't you leaving. That part of the story off. Yeah and then they do that thing where it's like. Oh well some of them may have had a dime bag now. There weren't thousands of people incarcerated because that'd do beyond that they were up to something. Oh and by the way I know you hate it bit but murders went down gun. Violence went down. Criminality went down. It was fucking effective. And you're thinking is I don't care if it's effective you don't stop people really that's your that's the way you govern. So that wasn't effective wasn't worth it. I think you know it's funny. It's like they never say it wasn't that effective they just and they never say it wasn't worth it and they're the people hate guns the most well. This seemed like a way to get guns off the street pretty easily and they were they were not down with the 'cause I don't know where if you got a Cossio or fucking Bernie them together. I believe also I'll tell you what else is chicken coup you disproportionately at least stopped young men of color and Hispanic. Yes for Safi said men right because men are disproportionately Lee involved with crime and and guns and men of color are disproportionately involved with crime as well. So yes. That's that's what happens when any group I take the bigger group men. I don't know how many women do you figure they stopped and frisked under twenty percent and I mean had to be eighty percent twenty percent right at the most. Okay well. Why are you? Discriminating against men yeah well because they're the group that participates awesome. Okay why not Japanese men of Japanese or Jewish heritage. Because they don't participate we same answer. I just gave me right okay. That's it dude. Think you're thinking like a check. We have a clip. I WanNa talk to John. The waste for twenty twenty former New York works city mayor Michael Bloomberg is considering entering this race congresswoman. You're a New Yorker. was he a good mayor. There's some real issues that mayor Bloomberg had the city to this day. He still defends is policy of stop and Frisk which impacted families like mine. It was my cousins and my friends that were stopped on the New York. City subway system racially profile. Yep It also may be. The ones who didn't get shot is well. True impacted acted maybe well her cousins and her friends influx of guns coming in. What fucking she? Such a narcissist assist. Everyone I think does anyone ever talk about the narcissism of like my family. My friends by the way what is stopped and frisked means. What what are we talking about? Just stop do you have a gun. What's on you? Where are you going to work find? What is that why? Why are they doing what I do? Every time I walked on an airplane. Why this is problematic? Drill you it it it it. Disproportionately impacted her in her community to try to get her in her community. Not Shot by these guys Bernie such a fucking pussy. Do he just sits. Oh horam onto big fat nodar blue. Aw Come on you gotTa know. Why is he doing? And by the way did it work yes was it wildly effective. Yes to get a lot of guns member. You guys don't like guns right. Don't they. Dislike guns all right. Let me just hit. SIMPLISAFE will play. You can roll it back a little Gary. We'll hear it in the second simply safe. Save Home Security. Well there you go stay at home and don't be stopped and frisked out there this week simply safe offering my unless there's a huge exclusive deal for Black Friday twenty five percent off any new system plus free. Hd Security camera everything you need eight to keep your home safe entry. Sensors motion sensors video doorbells. SMART locks that. Lock Your door when you forget. Plus twenty four seven seven professional monitoring that dispatches police three and a half times faster we all have it. Don't wait we use it use. Is it here battery. Slice up to ten years peel and stick up and under an hour go to simplisafe two is simply safe dot com slash Adam to get the twenty twenty five percent off plus free security camera. That's right don't miss an amazing black Friday sale simplisafe dot com slash. Adam to all right. Sorry Good Gary I think there are some real issues. That mayor Bloomberg had the city to this day. He still defends is policy of stop and Frisk risk which impacted families like mine. It was my cousins and my friends that were stopped on the New York City subway system and racially profiled and and padded down and thrown into jail for low level marijuana offenses. And I think that you know we need to talk about those this issues and we need to talk about the fact that That there were real issues in New York City especially along the lines of race that we have to contend with and and you'll make a good president. I don't think billionaires should be president right now. I don't think that that's what this country needs. I think that it's going to take us further direction of wealth wealth and political power concentrating at the very very top of our country. And I think that our democracy should be everyday people not for purchase senator later sources. Tell last part of the reason why he's considering entering this race. It's because he doesn't think anyone can do the job that is currently field. She made it about. It only took eleven seven seconds to make it about race yourself and took her took her four seconds to make it about herself and then eleven to make it about race. He's a fucking Christ pitch white year and set. How'd you get phone it in? I is everything about her about race. And how supremely insanely narcissistic does that sound. And could you imagine doing that. This painting everything off into some racially motivated did something and then I do like the thing where it's like. I just stop and Frisk everyone and a lot of these guys had dime bag or roach on them and and then they spent the rest of their life in prison because they got caught up in the system idea being caught up in the system like fucking walking around and you walk through through a couple of kids doing double Dutch and you get your feet tied up in a jump rope like oh what happened I well. There's two ways you can get in jail school to prison pipeline slide into that or you just caught up get caught up in the system really seems to be you have to be a criminal. Yeah criminals nmls get caught up in the criminals get you. Don't just try to get on the subway and get caught up in the system. And you don't just go to school and hit the flu mm-hmm for the pipeline flying to think about their their phrasing of everything like now they're caught up in the system but Kaduna system. Because I will say that the one good news about all the misery on the streets is less rhetoric in this direction. I don't I've not the cool. The school to prison in pipeline appears to have been dismantled. Right there's been an systemic racism. I don't hear that so much so you know there's nothing there's nothing there's no. Prison is a prison pipeline. There's nothing so okay. We'll see how that works. You stop people and you ask them where they're going or why they have that gun on them or they have a permit for that gun or whatever it is and and you prevent a lot of crime. That's how it works and some people are inconvenienced by it Look there are three categories to my mind in policing doing a stop and Frisk. There's Category One mild inconvenience like stop talk. What's that on? You lift your shirt up all right get on your way. There's two oh which is yes. I sell speed but only a little bit or I do a little bit. Yes yes this this. We'd give myself ski myself supplied or I have this I I have a couple watches. I'm selling or something. I'm fencing. Something look I don't WanNa be old fashioned but you're still a criminal you're still involved with illegal behavior and then there's the third I've a gun and I'm going into commit murder okay. Well we all agree we want the gun guys off. We should also then agree that the ones that got hassled or inconvenience that. That's just part of living in society where there's gun violence remember if people weren't shooting other people than we wouldn't be doing this but people do shoot other people so then we do do this this notion of like high. There's people being shot cop shouldn't be allowed to ask people to have a gun and where they're going well. How what is the House that math workout? I don't know I should talk to him about stop. He definitely agree to clean up. You know people go like Oh yeah. Clean up the city but at what cost cost. I don't know what costs he doesn't like chicken. Shit police hassling. Well I'll ask them about Gary will remind me then there's the other part where the guy did have the weed was selling the weed and then he can get a citation abroad in booked or whatever it is and I'm fine right. I don't want that guy locked up and have the key thrown away but I'm fine. If that guy sits overnight and gets to think about his profession by the way the selling drugs there's There's a way to change that legalized we need and you know it doesn't matter it doesn't matter what you say what they will say as they stopped people of Color and got them into the system and now they're in the system and there is some truth it to that but let's not forget you have to have something in your pocket right. Yes yes you have done something okay and also also that guy. That was eating the sandwich yesterday on the platform he was. He was resisting arrest. If you would like people to not get caught up in the system at all perhaps champing my my plan of a father at home. Ooh jeeze never see you. Bring that up well starting to come up a little bit much her car no no no new Alice. Sixty eight BLOOMINGTON INDIANA. Hey how you doing what I say. That bucket of diarrhea. This story just ruined me. I heard that earlier. Sorry about that for California No I have a question for you. It's a real important medical question Christian Years ago. I read this book by Marshall. McLuhan call the mechanical bride and he was ill studying some point with advertisements in one of the ADS. He put in with the advent licensed dish from the thirties forties and they were trying to tell women that husbands didn't like it was because they didn't Lysol dish. But do you think we should start using that again again and I'm looking it up right now because I'm sure I think Google bad fan of I'm sure it was for birth control I think there's some unfortunate another tempt at birth control but I'm trying to figure out what's in it Obviously not but but I am. I think you delude food but even so I. I don't think it's something you know. They're saying it doesn't affect Membrane Shares but then also doesn't tell them what's in there so I'm not sure what was in the Lysol do we go. But it's a lovely ad because killed me. Hold on a Sega safe and gentle as well as extra effective. Very find out if in we shouldn't be doing any douching by the way the Woody Allen Movie. But what if you really. They love your hobby and in the Woody Allen Movie Manhattan Annie Hall God. This is a crazy ad. I'm looking at the scene where Marshall McLuhan showed up in the movie in the movie line in the move there and a lot more there in a line to see a movie yes and he and he said something about Marshall could he turns behind Marshall Turns back into them right Kinda walks in and goes you know nothing of my work. Yeah Yeah I was thinking about that scene this morning and I think it was that Marshall McLuhan AH screwed it up with Malcolm cleaner whatever and so weird that you. We had a call where this went that way. Even douching is not a good idea. Generally and I'm certain with a US strong nearly septic like that. It's not going to be a good thing so let's see Gary Marshall McLuhan interesting thank you for a high high high intensity you understand hot media what I was imposed for a large saw. As when you get stuck in a movie line with a guy like this behind you this a free country that he can give you have to give it so loud to shame to pontificate like that. And and the funny any part of his mom or anything about Marshall McLuhan really I happen to teach a class at Columbia called. TV Media and culture. I think that my insights into Mr McLuhan we'll have a great deal of lit. Oh do you know that's funny because I happen to have Mr McLuhan right here. So so yeah I mean come over here second and I heard what you were saying you know nothing of my work you mean my whole fallacy is wrong how you ever got to teach a course in anything is totally really amazing boy if life were only liked this McCloy about that scene this morning so it's bizarre that it doesn't talk yeah all right that's crazy no lysol yeah yeah I know better I know much better thank you thank you bring that up. It's really it's kind of weirdly. It's oddly chilling to to look at that Ad. You know. Say what you will about the stuff we complain. What about? Things are better a lot of respects some. You know what I mean. If maybe it's time to start looking at taking account of things that are better you know. Oh ooh I thought of this for you. I listened to a study or is actually A. It was a podcast about cognitive distortions. It turns out that the way Our brains work is when you focus on something by color or an or a or racism or some phenomenon and and it becomes. It's a background of lots of different things and it becomes more and more rare. Your brain makes it look more and more prominent. So you've always asked. Why are people taking account of the improvements? Why are they seeing this every? No no I said when this country elected it's black president to a second term. It became time to up the ante but he had to go harder that direct we had to find more. You're correct but it turns out that's a natural process. Yeah it is down people if you if I took a scar scatter of blue purple dots have to want. You have to want this thing in the first place. It motivated reasoning to someone. You have to want racism so you have to see it when it's not it's not existent is wanting but are you. Are you agreeing with me or arguing with. Yeah I'm I'm saying I'm one hundred thousand percent right. No I'm fine with your finds injury. I have been saying this all along have I I am the less it goes the more you see it the more you'll have to amped it up but where the what I'm pushing back on. It is a human condition. But it's only the human condition if you want that to see that thing with I with the study is I was looking at did simple things. Like taking blue dots in a in a field of purple all dots and slowly reducing the number of blue dots and the people report. The blue dots are going up right. So they're not. I wouldn't report that. I probably not not everybody has to be simple minded to do that. Or have an agenda or somebody says. Find as many blue dots as you can. What motivates? That's the people that are watching Jesse Jackson. Jesse Jackson has an agenda that people that are listening to him are dumb so so to your point again. I just want to say that this stuff has an underlying cognitive natural base which motivated reasoning. You see what you want to see you do you see what's consistent with your view of the world always and the more rare something becomes a more prominent teams which is which to me was news. I didn't realize brains did that. And so it sort of it sounded like good news to me because it means things maybe shrinking. And maybe we'll come to terms with that will come to terms with it. But not if half the population sionist trying to overcompensate for the shrinkage of one thing and thus making it actually bigger than it originally existed it in nature speaking of black people. Hey Brian Line. Four gentlemen pleaded with you. Yeah you got the NFL hundred his character It's their hundredth anniversary. NFL films has been rolling out. Greatest teams gains MHM Game Changers and characters and Deacon Jones was the number seven character and he was talking about the head slap but they left left out one piece of audio from that old clip How they have it now to have it now intimidating and him and Gary plates right greatest audio clip ever GonNa play the one? That's now or the other one that's airing now. Let's see and Deacon Jones pulled it out. How could you forget? A Guy Like Deacon Jones with the head slap the head slap was due to purposes. One was to give myself an initial hit. Start on the past in other words extra step because anytime you go out a man's head then. They have a tendency to blink. The eyes and that was all I needed a little creative and now the original one. Can we hear that one. It's the greatest audio clip. The answer that was due to purposes was to give myself an initial dot on the fast I in other words a extra step because anytime you go upside of Man's here all woman. They have a tendency to close the eyes and that was all I need wonderful about the NFL network. As I had to yell about that on the radio for two hours before somebody wanted US ed page one. Oh yeah maybe we should tighten that up a little by the way they're showing it over B roll of him playing football. What Paul? There's never an easier at it in the world than doing it over B Roll of action just taken and you can edit it. It's Wallis anytime you go inside a man's head they blink they is. Why was that that was I discovered? Discover that after he'd been airing for thirty five years that was stuff circa nineteen seventy-three And I spotted it in two thousand and seven. Why so Adam yes. I saw that that interview took place in one thousand nine hundred four. That's when they had the time. How the eighty four? Sorry Yeah but to offer I. It lasted for twenty five years before I made some noise about it now. My angry that they they took it out. Well the man is dead. 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Beastie Boys  Licensed To Ill

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Beastie Boys Licensed To Ill

"Before you listen to this great next episode of Shit Songs of cried albums a few quick plugs go subscribe to us an eye chains and Google play or follow us on spotify just search for shit songs of great albums. If you like podcast please subscribe Labor of you on. I changed give us some size. Gives your thoughts in the pod and most importantly in your view. Let us know an album. You want us to review if you WANNA ban to chat with us. You can follow us on instagram. Handle at the golden ducks where you can leave an album. You wants to talk about in the comments about posts O'Dwyer dam. We're only doing this for the love of music the order we plays merely snippets of these great albums. So if you like any of the artists all the music discuss go and stream or download. The album's legally purchase them. Support the oddest and the music. And now let's get stuck into this week's episode GDP nothing else not after today my in Phoenix festive. I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not gonNA ridicule. You're not gonNA abuse you. I'm just going to simply address you as as the individual alter-ego you off beating dot com. I this is this. Is Al Christmas podcast than say? You are quite festive spirit and festive time. How what's the? What's the office Christmas specials on the Illinois? It just gets better with age? Absolutely brilliant may be watching. I haven't watched that. Yeah Shammai Tuck into that tonight as it is so things like to watch around the festive season for me. It's the office obviously love. Actually I mean we'll be watching love. Actually I watch it gets more depressing. The older I get actually really on actually putting it out there and I didn't think love actually is the greatest The Greatest Christmas film. Volt on what you say the older you get the less you like. It is it. I don't think that's a good question. threes hey. Let me tell you three years. So you've been married three years. Yeah so you you you. You would have fallen in love with Maria by nicer. Yeah you're right because that's what happens after two years. It's born kids ball. You just love with each other. That's it pretty much because all goes to the kids love love. Actually it's just a it's a movie about a bunch of people wonder randoms and some fall in love and some of them cheat on each other and it's like closer people talking about closer being really romantic film. The closer is far from romantic. Closer is actually quite difficult to watch him places. It's a brilliant film. That's actually Maria's favorite film of on that stuns me I mean I remember you telling me when you lived in London. You bloody bike ride or something with her and took control locations where they film it and then you're like it's a favorite movie now. I think it's a fan like I really think is a great film. I'm going to the movies burns. And she was like that's a great film. I would not take that as you will miss his favorite movie of all time. It's certainly not a not her favorite romantic film. I mean it is. It is but I wouldn't have. Peter's certainly her romantic film of all time. Yeah it's great film there Freddie Freddie when it's not written by the Great Patrick Mahbubur starring great Clive Owen and Jude Law and Natalie. Portman Julia Roberts Gray on some very good. I think clive. I might want an Oscar. Best supporting actor Oscar for us. This is the home. He's not pleasant until a fact none of the radio rule about not pleasant but he doesn't come out of it looking particularly well so notley Portman. Yeah she's all right and she looks good. She's cute and she is. She must have liberty. It's whole pass. Marinas are we say. Okay Mine's mine's Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Anyway so what? Are We have thirty? Four thirty four. This is this is likely to be out. Lost Part of the the well actually. It's not it's actually. We've pence Odeen. We've Pinson with this. Hopefully the ultimate part of the penalty and another one that we're GONNA get into before the end of the earth before the end of the. We're disappointed golden dog bit because I of course in Sydney over Christmas and and we would love to politics But I've got got things happening family stuff happening now namely my mother-in-law's seventieth birthday which means I'm going to find time to get into the podge studio with the dude and although we will see each other I'm not sure it's going to be appropriate for us to split ourselves away from my wife and kids over lunch somewhere near a beach and try and part in the corner of toilet where it's quiet so we are unfortunately not gonNA put in person but we will be putting it. Looks like the thirtieth of December. We've got a date and that will be a final part of the special ones for that. But at the moment we pod number thirty four said this is a request by The husband of a lady who works in one of my teams here She's about five foot four of aptitude She brilliant her name is Felicia in her husband. Seems that quite the fans of the golden ducks. Her husband the mighty. Daniel Haas has suggested to us that we cover the debut album by hip. Hop Group the Beastie boys entitled licensed to ill what did you. What did you think it was called until about a half an hour ago? I thought it was licensed to three because I just because it looks like I didn't realize it was an eye and Alan and I just thought it was a one to one. The rap hip hop punk rock genre doesn't really appeal to does it? Nice Soi don't mind. I don't WanNa hip hop and stuff and don't want a bit of rap. But I gotta say the Beastie boys are somewhat of a blast from the past and I was really obsolete beastie boys we're getting quite realize what sort of impact they add on on music and also you know how historic they really are because you think that this album came at nine hundred ninety six and released by. Def Jam records which was founded by Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons as Simon Simmons and and yet definitive moment in American rap history and also three wight Jewish guys which which in itself. If you if you consider the fact that you know I think it was only three years after this. Nwea released their seminal album debut album strata content. I mean these guys set the real foundations for for for white rap out of out of the US and a great story. To the Beastie boys as well and so this was this was a good ones. Get into such a great recommendation. So where where do we start? Where do we always start? I think with the band themselves. I think what offended really interesting on this is I had heard a lot about the boys growing up You Memorial Might Pat. Pat Davis used to listen to them quite a bit Pat Pat and Tim Nusa to to throw on the beaches quarter fit and when I was working. Am Oi They're out to the five boroughs thing was Was released and saw always Inundated WITH BBC's music but it was. It's a band that lock you said. I think many considered a jerk and especially backing eighty between eighty one. They formed an eighty six when they released their debut album. They had a lot of change. They were a punk rock band And then obviously met Rick Rubin in New York and and start to to steer away from the more punk Elements of the band and become more hip hop influenced and lost a female drummer inserted literally become the. Basti boys in our read. Somewhere that Mike decided to the Beastie name is an acronym we all love an acronym here and apparently apparently and I don't know if there's an single should've truth to this or if it really is just Taking on the basis dream signed but he said that it stands for boys entering anarchistic states towards in excellence whatever Bachman but if all mile three member rap group ended up having the first hip hop record to reach number one on the US shots. And I think when you look at this album and the album succumb they You use the word seminal before and it really was You know in two thousand two thousand twelve. I became the third rap. Group inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of fame and that's a pretty privileged area. There's genre that they're in and even when they moved from punk rock into into hip hop in really became mainstays there. I think this album kind of shot them a hell of a long way to go there and it. It was groundbreaking for the Tom. I think I think looking back at it now. Looking back at it. Now with the the the the lens of history applied to a critical review of it You have to look at this album in the context of when it was released Because you could say it's quite naively young They're quite precocious Very misogynistic homophobic lyrics and places and then even the basie boys came around to quote embarrassed. I think a lot of these Not even shortly after the release of this album The the the initial at title of this album is quite interesting Yes but I think the way that. This album was released The production elements of. It are really want to get stuck into as well I think it was a great album. It surprised me upon eliciting now From where to go. I really really enjoy listening to this. Yeah absolutely and I think I think it's You know you hit the nail on the head and it's often the case with these albums to think about the the time period. I mean I was six years old when the album came out. And and these guys were I was looking at. I was watching some of the earlier interviews with them. I'm from light early MTV days and stuff and and they were quite fun. They were young. They basically kids and stuff. And what's interesting? Is that before? They even released a video recorded and released this album. They told supporting Madonna on her on a virgin tore in ninety eight five which was a huge huge tour and stuff and and then they would later told with public enemy run. Dmc in and so on and so forth and for this period of time you know what you're getting interviewed and listen. You know they seem like naughty boys. But that's all they seemed like you know funny. Naughty boys a great time and and and and doing thing and stuff and but actually when you listen to the album into production and and just the sheer volume of of samples that are integrated within some of these songs. I mean you know. There's some some three or four samples of other songs and stuff. It's it's quite amazing. You know everything is very very layered and and and what's also interesting is again. We've we've sort of covered this a little bit before but you know. There was seven singles taken from his album. Seven seven single seven songs. I really singles and you don't get that anymore but you know the this was of a time where you know went. Bounds would release albums and they want at least a handful of songs to be released singles because they'd milk it for eighteen months two years and they tore it and that's what the beast did And and sadly They sort of disbanded right on. Because Adam is Adam Yaojie. Ouch a he passed away about five or six years ago of cancer. And I kinda respect the baron for just sort of walking away from after that point they said I was watching the interview and Adam Horovitz saying you know he. He would have been happy with whatever we did would have encouraged or applaud if we continued. And it'd be more than happy if we draw a line and so we just we just felt you know when all to somewhere three seven and there's no point going on when thirty. Three percent of the equation is in there which I think is respectful. 'cause you know. I don't know how relevant the music they would inputting act today would be but they could quite comfortably released album to album and I'm sure it would top the charts and and be you know. Be a commercial may not be a critical success necessarily but I'm sure it would always be a commercial a commercial sort of entity commercial success. And so you know I kind of respect the fact they just drew a line in the sand there was never any never any huge not huge controversy that that followed the Miranda was came across well in interviews and stuff and there was a lightness to what they were doing. But you know as you say you get into this album in. The production is really quite quite solid And then when you think when you think of their interactions there early involvement particularly with with Rick Rubin who over the years as has produced some of the most iconic artists and albums of all time. This was fairly early on in in the mix you get the impression that that he was treading water somewhat but it still sounds relevant today and I think that's the key takeaway from this album to me still sounds very very relevant in two thousand and nineteen. Yeah I think I think that creativity that creativity is trio were would definitely accommodating rick. Rubin was like He was he was definitely on the way up. And you know. I think by this time he'd been working with Run DMC L. LL COOL J. And then was yeah in future be with public enemy as well as a host of. Yeah you you could just list off a couple of he like I say Deysi Kanye West. Johnny cash just Blake Metallica slayer Yadda Yadda Yadda. This guy's on. Who Rick Rubin would work with and I think for me. I'm listening back to this album now. The samples of the real standouts. And I think it'd be really interesting to understand Without Rick Rubin You know bringing a lot of the the rock music and fusing really economy re re basically pulled off of these two elements. I mean the Basi's starting punk they kind of win into hip hop and then ended up almost as a party of hip hop Hoping they'll holy shit okay. This is actually quite good at this. And then they met Rick Rubin and he was like yeah. I think you guys are really good with. Let's just fuse together in the samples on this album. Really Mike for me. I think it's a startling debut. I think Before our very precocious Very precociously talented to try. I think that would further. A fawn leads even more creative albums and songs such as ill communication which they released almost almost a decade after this with songs like sabotage them but the editor 's album. At smells of just brash? Cocky. What boy punks sneering it people that are walking boy listening to Mr speeding at shootings like literally as they say? Like spitting and stealing I think this is casting. Humorous tycoon. Everyone and everything and I think. There's no-one no-one Saif They they they they they they start using at Jimmy page In one of their songs and they using zeppelin samples throughout this album So yeah I found the same thing and the production of this album Unbelievable Yeah I think you're right. They stopped paying. They're paying Jimmy page. But but for me. It's like you know there's A. There's a real confidence. Does it really really kind of core confidence to this album? But it doesn't feel arrogant to me you know. Ultimately this was their first album they would dip a NATO and water but they approach thinking will. This is this is this just so hypothetically happens to be the first and the last album that we ever do. Let's just fucking do what we WANNA do and do the best that we can throw everything at it and say of the we want to because you know we may not get another chance and so. There's this incredible confidence. These young guys And this this producer who who just have disability or has this ability to just turn things to magic. Doesn't matter who we record with you know at this at this point in time when when Def Jam was established and That you know they were sort of defining themselves and who they were and the artist drawn to them. I believe that at this period. They were kind of untouchable. You know And and it's cute us to the. Beastie boys that that they just they can't. They never tried to recreate anything or they never tried to be something. They weren't there very very real very organic and solve. They kind of did what they said they would on a ten did did what it said it would. Do you know what I mean. I'm dumb so yeah so I think this is a few colder startling debut. That's a very sort of as a very. Td thing to say those things to say startling debut. I think it is I think. Given the fact that they formed in eighty one. They released their debut album. Five years later it took him for Easter to write A dime of the day in front of me of when they met recruited and started recording. I'll be interested to know how long the recording process was Because again the samples on this like I mean how how you think about mixing led Zeppelin. The beastie boys he's just beyond me analyzing If you look at the bands of the sampled threat. This album led. Zeppelin the clash. Black Sabbath say run DMC war and the list goes on and on some tracks that there are three tracks on this album featuring Zeppelin whether it's like a a drumbeat which kicks off and I think I I have to play Yes Guitar it's it's where does that come from like that level of creativity come from it. Yeah Yeah right right now. It's it's it's incredible. But but that's the that's the Rick Rubin thing right as well I mean you've got these kind of these. Young talents get like just because they were doing hip hop slash ramp. It didn't mean that musical scope was just focused on on hip hop and rap. Either you will give me great because Brit pop in Indian stuff you and I know that it goes beyond that so all of these influences. They're bringing to the table. The the game changer is is highly integrated into the songs. And that can't be an easy thing to do. And and so I think the completely visionary for that time to kind of as you say bring led Zeppelin Black Sabbath and the clash to the table and kind of go right. We're GONNA fucking sample all these three in one song. Let's do it do it. They do it really. Well they do it seamlessly do it seems really polished and stuff. So there's A. There's a lot of that happening and I'm sure we'll cover some of that when we when we play a few the few that you as we should we get stuck in. Yeah let's do it. Let's do it track ones. I think this belter Song Roman and stealing. It's such a good track for a number of reasons that sets the scene for the entire record in in in two ways in musically the sampling drum that just a classic Jerem of when the Levee breaks which is off led Zeppelin full. Which we've we've posted about. It's an absolutely genius. Soem so they've basically kickoff with this track Kick over that drumbeat. And then they'll the opening line is like because mutiny on the bounty what we're all about. I'M GONNA boy your ship and turn it on out and now he's literally what they're doing throughout this whole album. They basically taking other people's And Work and fusing it exactly like they. The bounty hijacking You know in a in a great way Yup they're hijacking Zeppelin and then the turning it out and then this is basically the way that you can listen to it So I think that Rahman stealing is an a an ice track hawks? Their rock roots And you know. Apparently a few years Mo- most people were quite Quite okay with it and then I remember reading somewhere. The axle rose met the Beastie boys at a party in L. A. and said Yeah stop putting ripping off said led Zeppelin but then Jimmy page was asked about and they were notified about the use of their music. I didn't do the group And Jimmy Page basically said I guess I felt it was a compliment Yeah interesting little tidbit of information but I think Romney stealing ice happening track it is. It's kind of like the Beastie boys freight train hitting you. It is kind of Matt Frenetic time and it's it's just what you need for a rap album by three white. Jewish men because honestly I mean. It's such a strong opening song. I mean I. I almost didn't want it to end. I was it was so much. Talk about layers this so much happening this song you know we could. We could probably do a twenty five half an hour minute podcast on this song alone but for me. It's just the real statement again. Don't feel like it's arrogance feel like it's confidence. They're making a point the here that's kind of a high. Hey going now fucking. The big boys are in town. Strap yourself into going on a bit of a Beastie boys ride and I love it but I loved I love the High Energy Frenetic feel of it. Just it just feels like you know it just feels that there is so much going on and it just it just feels so good you know really does feel good I'm too and yeah and do you WanNa play on so you might just waiting for you. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA play it from the start because I just think like these classic Drum Bait and it kicks in with his Fuzzy Guitar and the sprawling wrapping of these young punks. I think it's just a it's sets the same for what what you're to enjoy the so this is this is truck. Juan off the Beattie's Deb Lost Two three otherwise lost to will. This is Robin and stealing go. Yeah that's That's Rahman stealing the continues on and then it just a love man that drumbeat so that opening that opening sort of five or six seconds. That's also that was also lifted as well By coldplay right. I mean the The star of in my in my co place on my place in your place in Russia blood. Well Yeah I don't know whether it's it's explicitly lifted but if you listen to you in my place sand exactly like that exactly like so. It's a meeting as soon as I put it on shit signs. Let's start in my place this the gold observation there so there you go. Chris. And Ain't that fucking good is a stephen. Have you listened to the latest album? What's going on with them? So basically. Yeah it's all right. I mean you made a good point right. You basically said I like the difference between parachutes and Russia. Blood to the head was was significant. Right you know you saw a big majority in the band and stuff and with politics starts Russia blood your lifelock okay spent like rhyming and sealant construct yourself on. We're gun for self government variety but it's all right. I mean this so four or five songs and I think for arrest a pretty forgettable but cy he. He's just gone all a bit sucking donahue for me to be. I mean we're not tore in until they come plastic cups in concerts for coffee talking nor back we supposed to drink beer out of you. Can you imagine Glastonbury who talking? I'll call 'cause you know plastic cups of read. Seriously honestly my. I'm just like I so east too annoying. I don't generally don't mind Chris I find him out. She very funny like when I get into very funny but when they start saying stuff Latin online right come Bono version to say say say the focus and everything else goes with that which are WanNa save the wheels you know what I mean if I could save away Lewitt but you know. I didn't Chris Model Boehner to tell me I have to so So yeah I think I think the music's kind of been I really trumped by but I'll tell you what do have a lot of respect for coldplay for just to digest digress. For more a ever since they'd start their career right up until now they take a four way split on everything and so Chris Mine is is worth about ninety million fucking pounds or dollars or whatever it is and the other three are about seventy five eighty nine. He's worth a little bit more for for obvious reasons but they still take a twenty five percent car evident which which I think. He's I think he's got a Lotta respect for bounce. Do that reminded me of the old. Jane's Addiction Dave and Buddy Perry ferrall was taking about ninety nine percent of everything but But credit credits and coldplay for for for for for doing that you know. I don't know banning plastic cups concerts cough. Just play the music. Just play them. You just put in place. Scientists and yellow belly was it. You was it you that was telling me that you saw coldplay like very very early on or something. At the end more veteran light shed split with Di Berryman or one of them love. That wasn't me. I'm not living under undrafted log bands of of saying I really. Yeah I think it was off. I sold them when they were tearing for Russia. Blood to the head so you go you go to albums. And they literally played throughout forty minutes. Unlike fuck off. You've got two albums you must have at least like an hour and a house worth gave material and originals forty minutes forty. Five minutes tops. I mean I haven't seen him but they do now is is when they were torn is already theatrical and light you know seventeen encores and forty seven different set changes and they change every other song and stuff but I I do. Yeah I never got to see an O'connor the one that got away really for me. I mean I remember. I remember when you won't see him a few times. Actually and I think they did big day. I didn't they want something and I never quite got to never cargo to see them button. Probably what what probably will never go to see him if they can't have plastic cups concerts so anyway I play. That's never covered Paul. Nevin to be covered in a while. Someone could Some good request it. Could someone could request. Yeah someone could request at their own risk right. Traffic's jacked style. Second single of the album annals attract too It's good to it's a good follow up to two Rahman stealing. Yep I I like I mean. I think it's good. I think they call it A. Dj World some good scratching going on him scratching with a there. You Go. You won't be singing. You'll be scratching scratching which is a red red talent as a DJ here in Hong Kong fringe detail. G DJ called. Samarra are no and I've watched him do some scratch offs with other deejays and two. I just thought it was just the load in focus loads noise righteousness but it's not as genuine talent and and in the new star. There's a lot of scratching and it's also got the famous slash infamous line Which is Which has been sampled extensively by other by other groups but and it's also got this kind of great bit towards the end where the drum cymbals again is happening lock package up spots a retains the pace of of of rhyming and stealing quite nicely trade. She's crafty she's graft great name for a Song. So right this you know. I I like the whole. She's crafty refrained throughout these pretty cool. But I haven't got that many notes on it for me for me. Didn't didn't quite complete the the the the General trilogy of the first three songs of album being being great I I thought it kind of feel like it lost a bit of pace here for some reason quite know why but it just. It just didn't do much interesting. This is one of my favorites on the album. And I think like I'm a huge Zeppelin fan so the tracks that a sampling Zeppelin Appoint my favorite tracks on the and I think this song is on. We can most distinctly here the influence of that in that sampling. And it's called pages very from the ocean of houses of the Holy Yeah I I liked him. I don't think it's cool. I involved but the problem with sampling. Is that you hear the riffing. Us wanted to continue on But you can still fuse that riff into into a rap like this Again the creativity boys my mind. Yeah I yeah you're right and actually. I think he's of all the songs I think it's the one song that's the least sampling. I think it's well it's A. It's only got the one the one sample and it just happens to be led Zeppelin. But you're right when you hear it. You wanted to keep going right but it's going to stop at some but yet for me for me at the now. This is a bit flat for me and actually I have to say track fours while policy in effect for me as well as tracks three or four. Not and I really. I wasn't really feeling them if they didn't have much written about at all. Yeah I gotta say. I don't really know this. Three or four samples in it and I don't really know the Office for the bombs that they're sampling. Yeah I mean I don't Know Ju Ju Sec Joe. Sky Love beside the these people are but but again there's a lot. There's a lot of scratching on impulsivity. Effect is again. It's a bit nothing songs I if I was to pick out. She's Kroft impulsively in effect she'd Kroft. He's definitely stronger. But it's just it's the sort of what is normally amid album. Low for me happens Early this album interesting. Yeah because it. It then flows slow rod and so for me it tracks wants. Us Ray of really strong track full kind of a little bit and then it just picks up again with with slower on it. It's got awesome. Sample Dot With horns coming in with a sampling low rider from Warren's that's that's the it-it-it-it did yeah did not that was that a account whether it was in the UK or Australia. But was that the Marmite so maybe it was in the Ma to do. Oh Oh play. A little bit of play played the intro. We're going to play like a four minute. Let me just play on. The opening bid server knows what we're talking about. Yeah right that's That's it it literally is that he did as you said. Yeah I think it might have been. Maybe it was in the UK. Growing up like mom was quite quite that sort of unique product at the time and and I think that that was sampled on on a bomb advertisements. As soon as I heard it I was like. Oh yeah remember this growing low rider by war again. You don't really know much about is to say but But yeah that's a great sample. I think I think the sleigh rides a great song. I really like at one of my favorites as well so this is kind of interesting for me. There's a series of a few songs nat really kind of pick up the overall Vibe on the album and slow ride. His is the first of them. I I agree. I think you're you're like when you when you listen to slow Rod. You listen to it. And you know you're just about to be hit by four solid tracks. Absolute blinders absolute which which starts with track six. Which would get a grief. I get a better grade for this for using this phrase but says some six is so fucking a media. It's I mean it's like a instant instant if you don't like it right you can fuck off or Polka I it was. It's the most interesting song on the album. I think this is your favorite song. I think it I think it probably is I. I don't pay too early. It's not walkout style but I think this is quite possibly my favorite song so I said when I back on cut weeks go start listening to it. I was listening to it while I was running one day and this song came on and you stopped. The fuck is this. I'm sorry jump on Google and I. I'm looking at the song and I'm looking at the narrative behind his songs and listening to the Song. Because it says you know basically it's a song about rejection and one of the guys you know this chick light one of the guys in the band or he liked her and she wasn't Anyway and you got them doing the backing vocals and you can actually hear them laughing during the backing vocals as well. Which is it's very natural and it's got this kind of drumbeat machine is awesome loop which is just pure genius It's a short song in the album. There's no sampling on it. It's just a really really really fun. Feelgood Song I love it. I think I think that this was the first one they right. I think the lyrics in Rome's Ah so basic But it but it works. You know what I mean like this. This is like if you would arap. It's on this level like if you if you if you gave us a like two or three little gold rap lines I'd say lyrically you pull in the same levels goals because it's a song But it's a it's a classic on the Pubic it fifteen. When it really shouldn't and I don't think the basie boys meeting the boys. You will not think this song that you want me to apply this from the start and I will bet you will this this this this is not the basie boys. This is just something just completely different when you were saying at. The beginning of this is a very fun album and youthful album. I think this is this is the the embodiment of that. We've just I mean I. I like to think this is a meal this album. We just had our on try. It was great. The entree was good. Initially tasted fantastic. Then it'd be the end of the entree was I going. And then you've got the song girls which is like the pilot cleanser before the main course and the thing is is that sometimes in life. The pallet cleanser can be fought tastier than the main. Course I'm not saying that's the case of this album but I think goes is an absolute touch. I think it's brilliant electra. Constant of good things about it gave Lonzo exactly the right point that it shouldn't be album and the bit where that is chuckling. Away AT CIGNA. Backing vocals is so natural soap. You'll you can see them recording together. You can't get absolutely like you know pacing themselves laughing and stuff so you gotta play girls because it's a great little number of never thought of an album being like dig a station menu in a restaurant but I absolutely love it because I think it makes perfect sense and Also goes to show why when I do have a station with prefer the beginning because the first half is always better than the second. That's true that's true. Girls Girls ended up the way they walk small back in front the Lake Cook. Yeah WE GUYS. Girls Girls Club love it. Love it and then hit single year track seven. I think really. Interestingly they hated the song They had there dancing. This is this is the CREPE basically. It's an IT's a solar. They release and made them famous. Annella hate it and I think. Part of that is because the song was written a bit of satire As bit of jargon then they they basically ended up being known for this And no-one no-one actually Kinda really got the giant. Everyone just thought yeah. This is a fucking anthem this to be young and partying and things like that Interestingly enough as all Rick Aruban got slayers. Carry King to play guitar on this track. Yeah that's kind of cool. That's that's quite sort of rock and roll wasn't a fight for you right. Yeah I mean is it is it was it was always the one I remember. Hd One. I was at school where it was always the one that that used to sing. You GotTa fight fair and good music videos well. Ll Cool J. Flea from the red. Hot Chili Peppers looks about four years old. And there's quite a few famous people in the video but yeah I think it was probably the most commercial hit But it's the the one. When says the Beastie Boys I always I mean sabotage fight fear right the probably the top two songs that I was kind of link? Durant beastie boys and and it's great. I mean again for its time. Nine eight six. I mean it was ahead of its time for its time and and you know it's the perfect It's the perfect. Follow two girls because you know girls if you say it on the surface goals is pretty simplistic fight. Fear right is is is more structured and layered and No but I think it's great and again it's for me. It's why it's it's I mean I've got put it out there with one of the best songs on the album for me. Yeah no I I really enjoy it. That's let's cracking on everyone. Everyone will know this. But it's just good to listen to again. This is track seven of will. This is fought for your ride glasses John. Hi Good Sports Day and then sweet track no sleep till Brooklyn again. It's a classic track. I think this period and and for me with the period but they mostly Brooklyn again. Greg Talk Right Bates Sly His Kerry King playing lead guitar on this one as well nigh sample. Dc's Tintin this song as well. It's a it's a great chain. It is a great year. It is a great unique it closes off. What I think is is is a handful of really really strong tunes in this mismatch sort of middle part the album but yet no no seats Brooklyn again. Very very indicative of the Beastie boys and an addition to to this little trilogy of songs here so love it. Yeah I love it and I love to sample as well. Academica near the boys the boys and we saw an I mean then we roll into into track nine right so I I mean. I don't know how you feel about this. Paul Revere is actually you know reading a lot of other reviews on the album and things like that this. This gets a lot of price doesn't do it for me. Just start as a reprimand. Rod THAN ANY MUSICAL ELEMENTS. Think for me or really enjoyed the fusion between the samples and the and the rap and the roaming and I think for Paul Revere. Just doesn't doesn't doesn't have anything now. I agree it's got. I got this kind of really. I'm thunder rolling. Beat in the background. I quite like but separate yet doesn't do much interest in the written by Rick Rubin's writing credits on this with with Adam Horovitz stuff but it does. Yeah just doesn't quite live up to the potential thing A not rolling beat. There's not much memorable for me about his try. And Paul Revere and then a condensate from as well hold it. Hold it now. Hit Ten. Just sounds like coconuts. Heating h other banging. Each Other. Doesn't really doesn't really do anything. This is the first single ride. I think this was the first single released the album and and yeah I mean. Apart from the fact is nice based scratching and his up tempo in places like the hit bits. I think they're pretty cool But otherwise you're not again kind of a little bit of a low After after the frivolity of the three or four suns lead intuit so yet. I'm with you on that one. It's almost like we've discussed this pre pre pot. I didn't know that was the first single on the end. And that's very interesting of the album. You wouldn't you saw what you kind of think like I mean you know. There's a reason they would have released. That is the first single but what I what I look at the other. Four hundred thousand singles. They released off this album. It's it's it's no near the best song cellular So yeah you don't punch out your best song as the first single Or at least the first couple of singles and so. Yeah so yeah a bit of a fail on on on this part of me hold it now hit it. I'm brass monkey. Picks up on him on Brost monkey truck eleven. Yeah I quite like brass monkey means talking about anything and everything that sign's what was wrong with Monkey Junkie Junky spunky. I like the collective course and I'm pretty sure that it's a sacs plane in his song which she was such a cool star with the homes and then bras. Yeah which which is why. It's not what you expect from a from rap album rap hip hop album but it's great tempo and I think it's great you know. I think it's a really nice song again. It's it doesn't you know. I just all blind to for me but you know I like it. I like it I like it. I like a slow time too. Ill very similar to me. there's A. There's so many samples on time deal. It's hard not to like it But I don't think it's as strong as some of the other stronger tracks on the album. Yeah so okay. So the last we. We've had this debate time and time again. The last couple of songs for me Okay but nothing memorable As you say you made the point is that. There's a lot of samples on time time to get a huge amount of samples but it just doesn't do much for me and it's just a bit of an anti-climax end to what is you know a upbeat. She usually fast pace. Slobber knocker of an album generally I was disappointed by the close tracks. And I I you know. Thirteen tracks is. That's a long album right. That's a pretty long album but not for for this period of time. It wasn't unusual so so yeah. It was a bit disappointed. I felt like at the end really just sort of fell off the cliff somewhat Which I would have liked something a bit more. You know bit more indicative of the central part of the album but yeah otherwise you know overall pretty pretty solid effort by the boys aggressive nature so we must pick a great song that we must. We must speak our favorites. We must be shits on so my favorite songs girls. So you know my favorite song. What's what's your I've actually I've got eight songs on of of Hollywood is tier. I only actually going to say. She's crafty Yeah you didn't write a bit of a bit of controversy the boys it's so it's so hard to it's so hard to pick. A fight was on the end because I got something different. This is not a concept album. Where every different I? There's a lot of similarities between them. there's really differentiate but. I'M GONNA say she's crafty. We haven't played it on the on the podcast strategies. If you love their plan if you love guitar riffs Jonathan to that gets on it. What are you yeah? Well girls from me and if I was going to if I was going to pick a sort of a shit song of this great album. Not If you're going to have to. I am going to pick a song of this album. I would be picking who I would be picking. I think I'M GONNA pick policy in effect. Whoa take policy in effect. Yeah I'M GONNA pick posse in the first half of the album. I am make because I'm a bit of a maverick lie that it's a rogue's my name is Andrea but yet is but but yeah that's the one. I'm going to take the simple thing for me to do. And this is probably what you will do 'cause you're shortsighted and you lack intelligence. You're probably going to pick one of the last two sons not not gonNA pick you. Don't Pick Paul Revere that I'm not I'm not going fucking name them all. I think that this last couple of sons the am because I thought the last couple of some of the would be the obvious thing to do and they're not bad songs. Actually when I sort of when I was juggling. The last two songs of the album policy in effect Tulsi in effect just was the one that I just couldn't quite get me not around. I just couldn't Cli- embrace it. I was almost apathetic towards it. Select a word. I can't disagree in terms of nights I'll generally rotten nights -mongst all of the tracks. I have no notes. Against Policy. In effects are accountable. You've got account by me for that for me sheets on the EMMYS hold it now. Hit it interesting seeing each other. Nothing happening on the song and for that. Not Wine Co off the other podcasts. Who said that? We only like the singles. The album's he can go and get nicked told me this is the first single on the anthem. Just said it's my shit song. Say Oh that's why that's why you go because they'll be excited your town you like. Oh is it. Was it the first? Oh I didn't know that our yeah. That's much nicer. Well that's I mean you know say this is not for me. This is by no means a stone cold classic. I do think he's a really great album and I do and I think aside from the fact is a great album that period of time you gotta think of the time the came out you know I will say this about the Kanye West album. Jesus like it's a brilliant work out but like I don't feel that album will have the impact. It should have for another twenty years because people will be making albums in twenty years time and they will be referencing uses with the production on it is out of this world. But they'll be saying all I was listening to the Kanye West Al measly when you and I are like looking close to sixty sitting around and on pot number four hundred fifty five thousand or whatever it is and they'll be referencing that and and and I feel that. This is an album that that has inspired such a kind of array of artists over time. that Cecchi they refuse it own inspired by and I think that you come take that away from this album. Nineteen Eighty six man. Like fucking out. It's incredible the shit that they would do and credits in the Bam for for just being so ambitious and credits Ruben. For just fucking just being so ambitious. I guess I mean it's incredible. It's incredible that. Go back and listen to boy. It's a great album. My final point on Rick Rubin. Is that the idea for the For THE ALBUM'S COVER. It came from from after raiding led. Zeppelin led Zeppelin's bloggers hammer of the gods. Listen to run about what the What the the front to back is on Instagram At the Golden Ducks. You can always find Al Ls instagram post has the front of the album cover as a as a CD or vinyl and interspersed throughout the performance of the band. And we were trying to finish with the backup and covering just have a look back album. Cover it what it looks like. I think it's just brilliant. Law Makes Sense in the end is a great bit of art work and we do like we like work golden dot. So that's licensed to ill so big up Boy Daniel for the for the recommendation. Good choice that so Next week or two weeks from now with during our final pods. The you want to say anything about it made complete the phone part of the U. is going to be. It's like a golden ducks Christmas special. It's going to. It's literally GonNa be our wrap up of the twenty towns As we move between nineteen to twenty twenty so we are going to be reviewing the album that has been voted number one of the past decade by well established musical publisher Won't give it away now. But that's enough clues. Vdi digging around and say we're GONNA be doing. Yeah con so funny really. I mean until you message me about US gun into a new decade. Yeah I just I just obviously third look at the calendar enough. I kind of forgot. It's twenty twenty in about two weeks time twenty thirty. I commend Becky. Becca like university. We were studying what the world would be locking twenty twenty and you would think that's fighting age it's there in the fray weeks time ironman. It's crazy it's crazy and Huda funky right. I mean you know. It's when we were. We were talking about to poke us. It took his eighteen years. You've got to get to get our shit together and start doing you. We like to go to stole. We were known for being still. But I'll tell you what when we get going on. Were impactful episode. We'll we'll do fifty before June next year and we're going to get into a rhythm now leading we will matter and he has a problem and and off the back of the some remarkable feedback from the Hamish Rosser podcast. He hasn't riposted himself lesson. So got word that. Hey I'm gonna I'm GonNa Miss You. I'm actually going to Bengal. Oh West hanging Anglo us from six thirty eight so I'm going to see if he wants to catch up for point and the bengals hotel don't seem Hussein when he's in Sydney and you'll keep tips on what he what he's in Sydney next level bear. I don't know what I don't know. What Wolf Mother doing he said. They were touring much at the moment. But but yeah. He was a super guy and With all the tonight. That's that's called number thirty four thirty four three and four nicer or my Taser Mike By.

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Beck Sucks

"Do you know anybody who has ever changed their name? Their first name? Yeah, Yeah I think so I. Don't know I'm not sure. Maybe, are you a cop? I need their names previous Eleusis. I don't know anyone who's ever changed their name. But if you were going to change your name, would you? Would you change your name to tile? One letter like it's just really close. Just take out one letter. Now I get artists. Do this a lot. It's a thing you know like my stage name versus versus my real, where it's still also sounds exactly the same, so you're really. You're not even changing your name changing the spelling changing the spelling of your name. Name. Why would you if you're beck? Born back named back. Just add a C. to your name. Maybe so they wouldn't think that he was from another country. Maybe it's a Zena phobic decision. Maybe so people knew it wasn't pronounced beak long e long e says maybe maybe so they what is that? What if that's his name is that his name beak is his name beak. It could be just blow my mind. Is His name actually beak? It's a long e if One of those little doubts called I. Don't know what those are called the for God his eyes. Beady, little eyes. He's got. All of the above the either may get long. That makes what I just said very mean, doesn't it? You're thinking of whom lots lots. The long sound is the straight line above. Oh, that's right. That's the Roosevelt, but if becks name was beak, it'd be pretty fitting 'cause if you asked me to make a list of ten singers who look like birds, this guy be right top five for sure he like Thom Yorke is definitely above him as far as looking like a bird. Bird gotta go you because of the haircut. Okay, I. Don't know that latest thing I saw. becky would be pretty fucking close to be number one for, but yeah I mean. He looks like a bird, and saying he'd be in my top five like skinny, also because he dresses in all black now crow, specifically you know what he dresses like is black spy-versus-spy. That's what back. The death the guy if he he he used to wear. The puppy has more, does he? Not I don't think so. The alabi surprised if he doesn't wear those hats, 'cause I. Don't know do these tickets saying that he changed his name from back to back just by adding a see what book and Ansel all right well. That was fun, so you think we should just. Just get into the scientology thing and get it out of the way. Taylor changed his name from back to back. Are we going to have to change our names? Because WE'RE GONNA? Talk so much shit about a colt as far as I can remember. This is the first episode we have done on scientology I know. It's come up on the show before. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it's It's really crazy to me. I'M NOT GONNA lie I definitely judge people for believing in dumb. Shit Yeah I. There's people that believe a lot of dumb shit like vaccines cause autism urine. It I think it's actually biologically important that you judge that person. Yeah, and there's a spectrum here right I. Don't believe in in something that is obviously scientific true. I think you're a moron, but I'd probably still let you hang out with my kids if you're a cool person, right? A disqualifying thing I believe in scientology for me would clearly be would be disqualified. They're putting your life in danger it. As though Beck may have become a scientologist as early as the year nine, hundred ninety one Briton early on which would explain why anyone has even heard of him in the first place as of November twenty nineteen, he seems to be claiming that he was never a scientologist. Either that's a lie, or he was lying before when he straight up said to journalists I am a scientologist and then defended scientology. Scientology from all criticism. Essentially, he didn't even say you know. Stop asking me about this. It's knowing he was like close minded of everyone to judge them. They do really good things. If you knew all the good things they did for people, etc. There's an interview with the Irish Sunday Tribune in two thousand, five I guess. He thought he was in another country. So fuck it. Let's go for it. He talks about how scientology is much more like a philosophy, and it's quote. Just a real deep grass roots, concerted effort for humanitarian causes and quote, which is the polar opposite of true yeah. I mean you don't have to watch. Many scientology documentaries to know that that could not be further from reality I. They do really do good things in that. If you think about how much stress money causes people, and if you just kind of alleviate everyone of that stress by taking all their money, it's kind of like a stress reducer. That's exactly what I think. Scientology is. It targets rich people. Helps them feel better about whatever fucked up stuff? They have to do to be an stay rich. Take my money. Make me feel better. Listen everyone that wants to say thirty dollars I will just go ahead and say you can do whatever you want this weekend than on Monday, you will be absolved of all of your sins and problems. Thirty Bucks is a good deal dude. They charge you way more money than that which I. I think is key I. Think you've gotTa go with like too much money for a person to spend, so they feel it. You know it's got to be an amount of money. That are very rich person's GONNA. Feel gone from their pocket and you take it from them in order to let them tell you all the worst things that they've ever done in their life. Being what you do is start pushing some real wild. Wild, Sifi cosmology on them crazy shit. Tell them this is why the planets here. This is why you're here. This is why we're all here. Though craziest possible explanations, the intergalactic millennia old war that we're fighting right now, that is clearly something that you push on people to see if they'll go with it either. They're going to believe it and they're so gone in whatever with them. Yeah, the you can get him to do whatever. Whatever you want, it's so nuts four. They know you're full of Shit, but the are way too deep into this and they know it. You actually have on file all the worst things that they've ever done and either out of embarrassment or fear. That's the whole thing what percentage of people someone tells them the story. What percentage of them sit there and legitimately think that makes sense to me. It's got to be a small. Way. We don't have time to get into all of this. Really they're documentaries now. If people are really interested in this, we could spend five hours sitting here talking about scientology right now it is unfortunately one of the most fascinating subjects around does because of how wild it is, and that is a thing. Is Nuts now that all these documentaries have come out. More people are aware of what's going on here, and it's just not a good look when you go back and read these back interviews. There's a reason why this guy trying to pretend like. He was never a part of this beck. Fans always obviously want to try to find whatever excuses can for this guy you know? Maybe he doesn't like scientology. He's not like doing stuff, etc. He was saving up enough money to buy himself out, but in two thousand eight. He told Vanity Fair that he quote only had positive things to say about scientology and. And quote that's promoting it. That is an ad for scientology, but now he says he didn't bullshit that. This guy was acting like he was never a scientologist. That's the deed I mean. Leah remedy called it quote a pussy move that back is acting like. He was never in scientology for anyone who doesn't know Lee. Remedy was in the cult of scientology has been very vocal about how evil it is, and how much harassment she's dealt with for leaving and talking about it. It's one thing to say I am no longer a member I. don't want to be a part of it anymore. It's A. A whole thing to pretend as if it never happened dude, it's obvious that had happened. It's obvious that you were a member. Why not just say? I am no longer part of Scientology, and even then you don't have to get into. Why if you don't want to? You don't owe an explanation, but just lying about it now. You'd look like an asshole. It makes you worse. Sure he'd love to pretend like he was never a scientologists. You know yeah I would love to pretend like I never did the dumb shit. That I've done in my life but I did how many people went in for? For their first audit because they read that interview that's why fuck him in stupid face for telling everyone who read that how great scientology is making no effort to undo, however much damage that caused when there are consequences. You have to do what you can. You have to try to undo the damage that you've done in this world. If you don't. Your soul is going to be trapped in another. You're killing me I. mean because I want to haul sewed on scientology, but you see the south part of course is the fact that they had to put the thing in the pieces scientologists believe. You're not even telling a joke right now. People a homer, sitting there laughing about it if his sheet is not joke is crazy. What stupid is not even funny like? Like this episode has not been funny so far because I don't like making jokes about scientology. I think it lets people feel like it's this silly harmless thing. Ha, look at what these people believe. This is not sillier harmless, no real world consequence which if you watch going clear or any of these things? A great tax. Haven though I'm thinking about it. We start a not for profit right of religion. It will be a non basically. Our religion will be reject all music period. It's a complete rejection of the art form known as music and to join. You must give us at least fifty percent of the money that you have. We could say were new records. against any sounds that have been designed so like incidental sounds like the sound of a car engine would be fine only fun, but if someone's sat down and recorded that in order to play it back, it's sort of people who believe the pictures take a PC or soul We believe that audio. Yeah, we can do this. This got wings. y'All bought shirts, so we decided to take a pretty big swing and do some ideas that we had. We've got some pretty fucking great new shirts. I think I mean. We've already took pre orders. They're crazy. You should probably get a shirt as soon as you hear this because there's not how many we made Elliott, hundred or something like that. We only got one hundred of each design. Oh, those are going to sell out fast. So by the time you hear this commercial, we may have had new shirts and you missed them. How can people avoid that? You should sign up for an email list which if you just go to the website? Go to the bottom, also kind of POPs out usually. There's a little pop out. Thing I'm glad we do that annoying shit on our website. I try to do all the annoying she could, but it works man people with the little email address in there, and you sign up and we get new Shia. You'd be the first ones to find out back to the show. There is one funny thing to me about the fact. That back was a scientologist, though which is for an extremely long time. This was sort of people weren't really sure. This was a rumor or not. You know. Did you hear the back scientologists? That's bullshit until. What two thousand in five ten years into this guy's career is when I think he gave the first interview where he. I'm a scientologist. His Bass players a scientologist. His Dad was a scientologist, so he was born into this. Basically, the really funny thing though scientology. Their entire business model is based on celebrity involvement. Yeah, that's the thing that's well documented. The only reason this is a functional thing at all is because it's based in La an integrated with that city's entertainment industry. was there ever any doubt that Tom Cruise and John Travolta what scientologists for example? Everyone knew that there were constantly being seen at scientology events, etc, they love their people to be like look. If Tom Cruise's scientologists, you, you should be if beck actually mattered. There never would've been any question that he was a scientologist because they would have been pushing him. Oh, we have back and they're like. Yeah I. Don't know man said that, or he's so boring that he didn't have anything that they could use to blackmail with when he. Beck was already clear when he walked. The reason I think it'd be pretty easy for someone to believe that that whole becks. A scientologist thing was just some rumor is I think it'd be pretty easy to start any rumor that we WANNA. Do about this guy he's a blank slate. There's nothing going on with this guy at all. He's never given an interesting interview never gonNA. You're never gonNA see the Beck Story. Story turned into a movie. He's not going to write an autobiography. None of this. Shit's going to happen. Because there's nothing going on here legit I don't think that the scientologists had anything to blackmail him. With is the most milk does to being on earth. So what do we have on back turns out the only thing we can blackmail and with that. He came here so. Which is why you can just say whatever you want into. Hey, did you know that two years before loser came out, Beck was one of the kids on Pete and Pete this is why him sake like I was never a scientologist, but there's no recourse for it. There's nobody seemingly giving a shit. This is the one dude who we would probably do him A. A favor to it used to be a scientologist. It's like Oh shit. That's sure the most interesting thing about you. If the only thing, we've talked about so far in this episode, Yeah, Did you know that Beck was born at burning man? He was see. That's what I'm saying. We get sorry any fucking rumor that we wanted to. You couldn't see his face. Did Not know I was joking. Right did not no hundred percent I legitimately was like really so beck use talk a lot in interviews about how much he was influenced by son House in Mississippi John Hurt I. Don't know if that's just him. Being a smart ass about how loser has a slide guitar and a and a bunch of other songs due to, but if you listen to any back song, and then get on Youtube and watch the video son House plan death letter blues. It's just not the same thing. It's not even a version of the thing. The best you could say about it is the he's making fun of Son House the most charitable option well like all. All things just a steel guitar. Just the existence does not make it is a great steel guitar player Song Now Right. He looks like he's fun of Blues Stuff when you see him. Play Blues Harmonica. It looks like he's making fun of it. Oh look at the White Guy. Do the blues thing I mean? It's possible this could could've had Jack White's career if he really wanted to be a blues musician I. Don't think he did though I think as possible that Beck is. The Jack White Origin Story I think as possible Jack White was sitting at home, watching MTV saw back, said fuck that Shit and decided to go for it dude. What if okay, follow me here? POPs off back, realizes Oh Shit I. Don't want to be locked into this sound forever. This isn't actually what I wanNA, do so. He clones himself, but he makes him so slightly different in the cloning machine. He makes himself a little taller, a little, pale color, different color hair, a little different color hair tweaks it a little bit. The design his character right Ri- ri- ri- Oh Beck. What would you like your new person to look and then boom check white exists. This guy's origin story is. He takes a bus from La to New York. City just to check it all. All out and again. This is possibly if not probably him making fun of Blues Making Fun of a blues. Origin, story well I had to go I had to take a bus to the other side of the country. you know I met? Some people that are made some deals sold the devil on the way, so he goes from La to New York City on a boss finds some WanNa. Be Artist Support Group. It sounds like where I guess. Everyone has to act like everyone else's legitimate artist who may be about to redefine the entire concept of art or something. This is a scene that's commonly called the anti folk scene in New York. City I would give you some examples of artists in this scene that everyone has heard of, but there are not any. 'cause all terrible. They called it anti folk, but I think all that meant was bad folk, because they still just play folk music I was gonna say it's exactly what it is, but just bad folk. Check out this folk refer note, but this it sucks. Anti Folk I think is what before recording technology? You would have called one man band busking, possibly shaving people who have. Like a kick drum kicked. Fee. The chicken dance while they're walking around and playing terribly obnoxious. If Beck lived before the existence of recording technology, he would have been that guy. He had a song called. MTV MAKES ME WANNA, smoke crack. This is the kind of thing you would come up with if you're trying to get someone to throw money into your guitar case on the Sidewalk Okay I. Don't think it's out of the room possibility that he was trying to get sued for the publicity when he came up with a song. Called MTV makes me WANNA smoke crack. Play this on the radio consuming, also real quick side note. What a weird. Weird thing in my mind. MTV makes you want to jump off. A Bridge makes sense. 'cause like harm yourself I mean, don't smoke crack. It's not good for you. It just doesn't strike me as a thing that it's like hugely detrimental thing I think it's his idea of putting down MTV like MTV is so mind numbing that it makes me wanNA smoke crack some sort of counterculture statement very counterculture, but also you know. Everyone at MTV loved that this guy had a song called that Oh sure the corporate fucking dorks at MTV and Punk Rock we can ourselves. We laugh at ourselves. Funny. You know we're cool. Yes smoke wreck. Let us take lunch sometime. Yeah, that's shit. COOL, DUDE! I smoke crack actually right now you will get your ass kicked in new. York City far too much to stay there. If you suck that's back faulk. There was something else I forgot to show you. Have you seen the Larry Sanders show by any chance the Larry Sanders Show Yeah Garry shandling. It's an old age. Way Back. S Yes. Yes, this is one of the best television shows ever. If you haven't seen it, it's about a fictional late night. Talk Show filmed in la get someone's HBO. Password and watched the entire series back was on the Larry Sanders show very early in his career. This is post loser. Pre odelay back gets booked on the show. Because Janine garoppolos character is fucking becks agent. He plays a terrible song. Cut to the producer watching the monitor issues all the person. Doesn't know Shit. Nothing happened. That's about it. Is he making this up as he goes along? He's telling America's story I thought he was going to do is. I think he's doing his balk. Everyone hates it later. Rip Torn. Character already goes backstage and yells at joining Garoppolos character for having back on the show, and calls back a hillbilly from outer space, so that's the kind of torture. This guy's inflicting on people when he gets back to La, Shit that no one wants to hear and then loser happens. Beck has said loser is a result of him making up ridiculous things just to see if anyone's listening to him. Him He has stories about being on the bus and playing his guitar, and trying to get people to listen to songs, just making them up on the spot, so maybe that's how he got started working on loser, he told pitchfork quote. It's like if a friend took a stupid picture of you at a party on their phone and the next thing you knew it was on every billboard and quote, so he hits with that sounds. Sounds like not what you'd ever WanNa. Do Right. Yeah, it's with that science. Geffen gets the same manager as Nirvana and the beastie boys. We're off to the races here. This kid's GonNa have a least one hit career so I didn't realize before doing this. They I was aware of Beck's career in real time after looking at the dates on all this stuff I. Guess Loser to me from the first time. I heard it. It which was probably the first time I saw the video on MTV. That's definitely how I find out about back. I would say it seemed like one of those videos that MTV probably started playing along time ago before I was old enough to even want to pay attention to MTV and they were still playing it. You know because the way the video looked and just. I don't know the vibe about the song something about. About it. I just knew this guy was older than he was trying to act. There were certain videos that MTV had like that. You know classics that they would keep in aerosmith with run DMC a lot of Michael Jackson videos. They would key rotation way after the time and I was about ten when loser came out so i. just thought this was some old bullshit they were still playing for some reason didn't realize oh this. This is news new? This is what people like now. The video everything about. It's kind of like it's that low fi sound I guess in the video is very looks like the VHS super eight or should probably was. There's two things for me with this song. A mom would not let me listen to it, or she would let me listen to me. Lives whatever I wanted to, but she was like I. Don't like that. That because like he's saying that he's a loser. You, why are you repeating these lyrics? She didn't want you to identify a I. Don't want you seeing some lyrics about being a loser. That's lame Blah Blah Blah. But my favorite thing about a song loser for artists like back when you look through the rest of his career I. Love when Band pop off on songs that they don't i. don't even think really like it launches. Launches their career, but then follows the rock songs with all the generic electronica bullshit that I guess that he wanted to be the whole time I don't know. Do you think he always wanted to be? The future back was at the music that he wanted to be making it just that loser was the song they took off I. Think we're very much looking at a case of failing upward here with this guy's entitled. Yeah it seems like a career in reverse now people always act like becks came out of nowhere and define this counter culture, self-loathing slacker vibe that was coalescing in the youth of America. You but he wasn't a youth. Using adult wasn't a youth, and that's not what happened. The song creep by radiohead came out two years before this. It makes total sense that creep came out two years before. Run the. The? Careers of these bands in parallel the song the explodes his career. Literally the lyrics are I'm a loser. Two Years Behind radiohead at all times never quite reaching the pinnacle, which is radiohead forever trying to live in that gray area underneath them loser came out in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four as a single, and then it was put on the album mellow gold, which back made after loser happen. Happen I don't really give a shit about the whole story. I'M GONNA. Tell it real fast. It's not as interesting as people act like it is Beck, which is over at somebody's house at a bunch of music year that we're fucking around with the samples that this guy made back laid down the verses of loser, and then was listening to play back and thought it was terrible. LEGIT has said every. Every time that he thought it was bad. He was a bad rapper. The reason why the course of the song is I'm a loser is because he legit was thinking I suck it rapping I shouldn't do this. I'm a loser. Four year old man, yeah, an adult. This is some shit you do when you're a fourteen years old and when he does go in to make this mellow gold album. overcompensate, go as we are because his loser is, a mainstream hit weighed in mainstream, big, big, big, big, big big chunk. This is what this guy thinks of himself. He's talked a lot interviews about how he resisted signing a major label deal, and he said the only reason he resisted. This major label is that it's what rockstars did. It wasn't anything about like keeping control of his music or anything like that. When he did sign a deal, he was allowed to put albums out. Out On indie labels, or whatever and he did, and they were fucking trash, because he's got this complex about being a pop artist, and he wants to be a real artist in he is never going to be a real artist or people are going to think that I'm Kurt Cobaine if I'm making millions of dollars off of this record album. Because this is the thing did this time when a single loser could have sold millions of copies of an album just off that one. Did just off of one song. Have you ever tried to listen to that whole album? Mellow Gold Nut in probably twenty years sounds like all the dirty drugs. Everyone was doing in the nineties. This sounds like nitrous weird highs, not fun stuff sniffing markers sniffing glue that Kinda Shit while I was huffing paint when I wrote it. It sounds like a kid who heard the butthole. Surfers were supposed to be a cool important band, and then accidentally became a pop artist and wanted to prove that he wasn't a pop art. Is that's what it sounds like the? Is Becka rapper. Can we have that conversation? I don't know I guess you could say. He's a rapper I. Know He's not a singer, is he? A hip hop artists east straight up said that he wrote the song loser about how he sucks at rapping, so he knows he's not a rapper yet. He still wraps explain it. I can't and I think. A lot of people think that back as a rapper, too. And I think if you made fun of him for it. which were GONNA? Do Right now? People would say what's wrong with him trying to be a rapper I. Don't think that he's trying to be a rapper. I think this guy is making fun of rap. If you want to hear someone who is, there are people out there who are rappers also weird Lil. Wayne is pretty fucking weird. Extremely. We a pretty weird guy. Lyrics are pretty weird, but also usually amazing, because he's legitimately a weird person, right, it's not an act. has anyone ever heard a Kool Keith Album Dr Octagon? Listen to the Song Earth People by Dr Octagon. That's a rapper who also is weird. Becky's is not the weird rapper category. Because he's not weird, he's just a vanilla. Human being that walks the earth. This is a boring person's idea of an interesting person. That's the thing is if he applies all of his boringness in his leg, generic nece to everything that he does not going to be a good rapper. He's just going to be a boring rapper and a boring singer. Hello everybody. This is Tyler Yup. This is mark. Have you ever wished you could pick the band that we do an episode on? You wish you could tell us what to do next. You can't. We have been very adamant about ignoring requests. We literally ignore every email we get. It's true, but things are changing. 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The formula for every back album eight partly making fun of whatever music has been popular in the few years before that album came out so early in his career. This would be hip hop. Stuff like days of the new marcy playground puppets. I think he's even making fun of Wean. In a few places, which is kind of a weird thing to do, I don't know why. All, but then also you mix all that popular stuff with music that is sort of built on obscurity. This is the critical darling. Shit built on obscurity the reason why the people who like it like it or claim to like it is because it's not mainstream stuff, the entire genre of Blues all blues fans are about finding the Blues Person Other Blues. Fans haven't heard of so. They can bring that shit up and talk about it. That's what has kept interest in the Blues Alive. Until now. That explains why blues is such a huge. Huge part of Beck's early sound. There's also shit like Kraut Rock in their psychedelic rock. Even some southern rock bands that people don't really know about bands. The kids who are just learning how to be a hipster always going to say, he likes the velvet underground. Always GonNa say he likes pavement or is going to say. He likes captain beef. Heart it's all that shit. You may not really even like to listen to. You have to say it's genius. If you WANNA, be cool gateway into look, how much music knowledge I have! Oh! Oh. I really loved pavement. He's always putting some version of what is perceived as a cool thing into some version of what I think is mocking. What is the most recently mainstream successful thing and I'm not sure which is more hilarious because like if I'm wrong and he's actually trying, and it's this bad. That is very funny, but if I'm right, and he's joking and people taking this seriously, that is also very funny, but he makes the perfect background music. Dude. If you really think about it, he applies all of these things in retrospect. Retrospect and makes the ultimate version of every song for perfect background noise that you will never care or notice, but you somehow know every lyric, because it's been jammed down your freakish your from so many times by every car commercial starbucks commercial movie all the fucking time every back album is something that got played in a mall or got placed in on a movie soundtrack when it came out because of what you're saying, go through Beck's catalogue of what is most popular songs are which by the way loser is like infinitely more popular. Infinitely more popular than any other song ever did. You will say Oh my God. I know this song and you will think to yourself, and you will wonder. Where do I know this song from because never any time? Did you ever listen to the song on purpose? You are forced to listen to this song because you watched a movie trailer today or you watched a movie today. If you think about it, you are never going to put anything even remotely. Edgy really that. Now, honestly in anything you want it to appeal to the broadest range humanly possible. So what do you do you find the music that is this generic poppy sounding for background noise? That's a great segue into the next album odelay. If there was any justice in the world, back would have been a one hit wonder, but then he had to go and make an album with the dust brothers, and there's no way this wasn't the idea of Beck's manager John Silva, who also managed the Beastie boys because the Beastie Boys. Boys also should probably would have been a one hit wonder if they hadn't gone and made a second album with the dust brothers and tricked critics into taking them seriously in the same thing happens with their back album odelay I think spin magazine gave this a ten out of ten. The big singles on this one are where it's at devils, haircut and the new pollution album is almost an hour long. They're fifteen songs on, and not one of them is good. None of them stand out. You know the songs everyone. Everyone knows the songs because this where it starts right. This is the launching pad for generic back background noise. This is when they need to turn this. Who's going to be a one hit? Wonder into a singles artist? They bring in the pros. Yes, that's essentially what happens here. The song where it's at as the first single from the album, the only reason the song exists is to bridge the gap between that idiot rap of loser and the singles artists. This dust brothers is supposed to turn back into this is. Is a moment. If we were sitting on stage and there was people, inform us right now where I would literally like to stand up and I would like to say. Do you really like this song genuinely? Do you really really WanNa? Listen to this song ninety nine point nine nine repeating percents nostalgia. This is on a playlist, and you just don't skip it. This is the song that ends and the next song begins, and you realize that you just spent the last five minutes thinking about some completely other shapes. You spaced out the whole time just seeing two turntables in microphones. I mean who fucking knows all these back songs. If you're one of the people who ever sat down and memorize the lyrics to loser, or whereas at congratulations on making it to this podcast, this is easily the best thing that's happened to you in a long time, and you needed to listen to every episode of everything you've ever heard of. We're here to save you dummy by a t shirt. Please the first time. Time, back said he had two turntables and a microphone. Why didn't anyone take those things away from him? Where it's at is some g love and special sauce bullshit, you remember that ban. Yeah, and imagine a world where I press play on cold beverage. Ever and I don't want to hear where it's at. Buy back either and again if this is not making fun of. DMC ERA HIP hop. It is an attempt to be run DMC HIP hop, and I don't know which one is worse, dude? Why is this white kid making fun of run DMC? Or why does this white? Keith think he's run DMC. Flip a fucking coin. It's both of them are bad. A few songs on this album are essentially hick hop. If you like country songs with rapping in them, Beck's odelay is your jam. It definitely paved the way for yellow. Yellow Wolf certainly kid. Rock owns this out rock. He's probably listening to it right now. Yeah, the Song Devils Haircut is just pop pavement. It's the one with the baseline from taxman by the Beatles and I know we said in the Weezer episode that Weezer were pop pavement, but becks going forward to back doesn't have the problem of having to stick to one sound. Apparently, he gets to be a mash up. Artist and people will still buy it so. So he gets to co OP. What everyone else is doing and just change one thing about it? Becky is kind of like Weezer Weezer to the baseline from taxman and you get devils haircut back is really close to weasel. Beck has a story about going to a pavement concert. After loser got big and someone pushing him to the ground, someone recognized him. Hey, you're back and got mad that he was their. Push him on the ground at first of all. All, Becky, she probably stand up for yourself. Not Be such a little bitch all the time same thing when someone talks shit on you in the press. You know but I think the reason bet got pushed down at a pavement. Show is because some pavement fan saw him, and said Hey, that's the dickhead making way too much money being pop version of the ban. I love who is about to play a show this year to steal their shit. Get the fuck. OUTTA here back. Yeah, you're you're going to steal their show now to do. Do you feel their live show? They're protecting the pavement speaking of haircuts. Beck needs to bring back the sideburns that he had during odelay era and stop dressing like a witch on Tumbler he He's got short hair now. Right? Yeah, well, yeah, that long hair, and the which he had thing going on his guy sort of a straw man scarecrow haircut wears that black hat and I I mean I've seen him wearing all black recently, doing the skinny jeans even pointed. It looks like a little Goth L. Well. No doubt looks just like this. This verse by then I wonder if the devils haircut he had. Mine is the one he got right after this where he started letting his grow out long sort of putting blush on his cheeks that yeah back, I. Don't know what that was odelay. Though that's when beg dressed like the it guy who still somehow got laid every time he danced like Austin. Powers at the bar. The Guy Shows up here to fix the printer. Then get high on a can of compressed air bust out of freestyle. He looks like someone who's GonNa. Pretend to break dance, but then they get down to do the worst version of the worm that. Looks like a Kinda Guy. That does a worm clear the path clear the path he does. The worm and everyone's like God guided the worm. All right kids. That's the end of part one. We did not see it coming when we sat down to record this, but it ended up being a very long session, and we're going to have to split it into two parts, which is fitting when you think about it, because really there are two different becks first. There's the loser where it's at is here, isn't he? A scientologist beck known and loved by the crowd who celebrate everything nineties. Then! There's the Oh, now he has feelings and is suddenly being called a genius by the Music Media Beck who strangely also happens to coincide with we definitely now. No, he's a scientologist back. But what do I know about pattern recognition, right? That's the back we're GONNA be talking about in part to the critically acclaimed back. 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I like to welcome my very very special guest odm from lighter shade of brown. How you doing my brother? Hey, what's up man? Thanks for having me for some years. Huh? Let me say this finally. I've been I have been wanting to set on next to you for the longest time brother appreciate that I was sharing with you that earlier off the last time I was I actually chopped it up with you. I want to say it was like ninety-seven ninety-eight me and mellow was that we're at your house and we were playing you the record that we were producing and stuff from there. I think I might have seen you like four months on stage performing etcetera, right? But other than that man, I'm very thankful that you came. I know you don't live too close. So but speaking of that page was your drive coming over here dry was cool. We were smashing only because I knew you gave me a certain time to be here. So I told the homies I was like bro. We got a Smashburger went on one of the homies. You know how that goes. So we were speaking. Who down a 91 month? That fast track and then buy 85, you know, I mean, we pull it out. We were here man, but we made it on time. That's good man. You know, I know today, it's Wednesday we come back up to the week and how long weekend this past weekend. We do this weekend football Sunday, Rams lost. I know your Cowboys fan Tony Saturday. We we did a photoshoot actually man. I thought this line on that I collab with my boy Rick from barely broke into electrical electrical a more lighter shade and we got this line coming out. It's more of a traditional lowrider town by button up. You know what I'm saying? That's going to be Papas. We did a photo shoot for that on Saturday. And then that's pretty much how I went man. I mean, I don't if I'm not really doing anything to I'm at the home with the family package, right, right. Yeah. Well you brought up the Rams. I see you're a Papal Ram van and I'm good baseball. Who's your team? I gotta side. I don't watch too much of it, but growing up off. Parleen in Orange County my Groban Angels fan. Okay, you know what I'm saying in a lot of a lot of people argue that cuz oh, I see you here. They're Dodger fan. Well, yeah, I mean, you know my wife she she was Dodger fan for you know are converted her over, you know say and but angels for sure man. Okay, Angel. School the rally monkey. Yeah, a little rally monkey would come out. You know what I'm saying and off, you know OC boy. Yeah from from the start and then that's what I grew up. My mom would take me. Yeah. I'm a Dodger fan because you know, I'm a Cowboy fan. Do you have a college football team? I don't I don't watch too many college football. Okay, I love college football people know that I'm a Notre Dame fan. I love Notre Dame. What about basketball basketball Lakers off top? I mean, We I mean we've had runs bro. I mean from the early days, you know, the All-Star team, you know grew up in the eighties bro. So pretty mental Jabbar Magic Johnson, you know, the All-Star team the road G1. I mean, I just remember growing up just gave them on the T like man, like how good we got it right now during that run and of course to the Kobe era and it's just, you know, it's been a great run like there's always been part of the home, you know, just the roster. Yeah Lakers fan too. And to me the best years of basketball for me Kobe and Shaq, especially playing Sacramento playoffs Mike Bibby and those guys awesome games fighting debug the king of the Flop. Yeah. I did a song called Welcome to La back into I was a spin-off of Jermaine Dupri is what was it was a German yet. Welcome to Atlanta. Right and I flipped it and actually went like what wouldn't viral back then cuz it was nothing internet barely but dead. I did a song got some Media news was like welcome to LA with him Lakers play would they be Ballin all fools like every day Kobe Shaq. It was dope man. And that was my memory from there. And we recorded the video did a whole thing to it went out to the parade and we were out there would just give him some out slanging giving some mouse laying out but that was my memory during that. Yeah, we need to bring that phone back, especially some of you know, I mean, what about the women so I don't get whoopings a woman. I just signed up yesterday like you do remix for that man. Bring it back. I was like Oh, see now. I know you're not too much of the politics neither am I but there was there was some going on yesterday. We don't know what it was two guys supposed to be debating. Did you watch it? I did watch it man. I gotta tell you just frightful first topic bro. Like I mean, they were just hitting on me Trump. He's a beast like he goes hard like he will not I think that's his tactic bro. Like yeah, you ain't gonna let you talk. You know what I'm saying? You just gonna kind of dog And just he's a kid. They just won't shut up. I know I think that's it's it's a strong tactic Patty has I mean, yeah, you know and even biting I know it was trying to keep it cool calm and Collective but this guy wasn't letting him and so, you know, there was a lot of people that I talked to this morning was just disappointed with the whole thing because I know a lot of faithful by Dean supporters, right and I know a lot of in the closet Trump supporter and they were both pretty much on the same page like dude after that. She didn't show like I don't even know who to even vote for like, we got one of these goofballs and yeah, I mean the tweets were just I mean, I was following the debate twenty tweeted it was just everybody was lost like this is America right now. Like this is who's, you know, representing our country right? Now these two clowns on there. Can you imagine how we look like to other countries that were probably tuned in na exactly. They're sitting up there, you know, laughing eating their popcorn man dead. Natural laws and da fuk is that but let's see. Well, I'm interesting to see I want to see a Kamala man get up there and come on the hairs go up against that she attends. Yeah, that should be interesting one should be pretty good pay-per-view, maybe yeah, but feel like shit now when you're at home chilling and you got time cuz I know last time I call you you were telling me you're cleaning the pool and when you have spare time, what do you like to watch on T? Whether it's Netflix with a regular TV, whether it's movies Blu-ray DVDs. What do you like to watch? I'm going to be honest and I like I said, I don't watch I don't watch a lot of TV. My wife is usually the one that she has her, you know, the Netflix on my son's downstairs. They take over, you know downstairs. Well, my son takes over downstairs and took takes up upstairs. So downstairs will be down. We're watching, you know Puba or watching Super Sonic Hedgehog. We're watching like all the cartoons right Nickelodeon, maybe show and baby show all I mean your name You know anything a four-year-old going through right and then my wife she likes to watch the ID channel. I don't know why she's trying to get ideas or was like all these lifetime stories, you know, it's like whether killing people like all these like microwave you try to set something up for somebody like and sign out. I just like it. I just like the drama, you know, whatever so under watching when she's watching. She was heavy into like walking a while that was going on. So I would say like the only thing that I got into the only webisodes or what-have-you the season was Ozark. Okay. Ozark wasn't a shitbag food and I don't know if it's coming back but like it's supposed to be there is supposed to be filming another one. They put it on pause cuz the cold but those articles myself. A lot of people have told me that night. You know what I was in to believe it or not, cuz I just love the whole eighties era. I love stranger things. Okay. I never got a chance. Oh my God. I love you know why cuz they show Radio Shack. They showed them all they show like like oh pshaw, Georgia. They showed go back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like I like to think better than today. I'm sure in real I mean Technologies good don't get me wrong. Yeah, we love it. We need it but life was more simple and life was more fun. When we used to go play we can play outside and we better bring our asses home before the street lights came exactly my son. I tell him the same thing like meals he won't listen to anything else I say but he knows the streetlights like Robert can bring a dog. Yeah, I mean and then riding bikes at the home yet because back in the day like to have so many friends. It was like the the Mexican Sandlot, you know, that's just what we used to break into schools. Yeah dumb pig make ramps break it to whatever y'all we didn't have a bite you was riding on on the back right down the pegs or on the handlebar like, you know, I'm saying like, oh my God for the girls so you can know I mean, I feel excuse me my hand built. So other than that, so stranger things. I think the last one I series I started seeing was a show called Messiah. Yeah, but it was I was pretty dope wage. And I just started this new fucking Dracula. Okay, there's a Dracula. I like a lot of horseshit. Okay, just a series on Netflix called Dracula. I finish that one too. So now I got to find something else to watch. I mean I watch like I like documentaries. Yeah on some light, you know, I'll be watching like Hillary she like or people that just like you see on the media like ten years ago and then they finally do a bio duck on them like Jeffrey Epstein them. Like I mean, although I got into it was like after the third fourth girl. I was like, it's the same shit like so I mean sad to say but it is like, you know, and then you know what? We're that. And we lost me when one girl said this and I'm not saying she's lying. I'm not trying to I'm just going to tell you what I saw that's it when she said that she was there. She was forced to do things. She didn't want to do and then they asked her how long were you there? Oh six years. And he said do you hear me? Hold you against your will know he's to take me everywhere pay for my schooling and everything. And what do you make you do? Well, he was getting naked. I'd give him body rubs. Yeah, so my whole thing is like you could have left you can hold you against you, but you say your six year right now. She admitted to that then yeah, he admitted to that. So when so when I saw that's kind of lost men. I was like, you know, what all you know, whatever happened happened. Not R Kelly one. That was a different one to that was an eye-opener right there. He he had a hell of a lawyer because they called him on film and he proved that that wasn't him even though it wasn't off. What Laura was that just in case I need to hire him. Hey that was supposedly somewhere. I didn't wasn't supposed to be exactly he got off bro, but you know, but you think he's ever going to get home home. I don't think so bro. I know. I know some shit went down though about a month ago a few weeks ago where he got beat up by an inmate or something like that because there were protesters outside the jail or something like that and causing a ruckus and I ended up thinking they put the jail they made on lockdown or something like that or they had to spend time in a hole because of our Kelly saw, you know, the dude was just like Mom rushed in whatever light is all cuz you fool, you know I'm saying wow. Now, let me ask you this where exactly or where originated you grow up at. Like I mentioned I grew up in Orange County Santana open till my my first my sophomore year and then I moved to the IE Inland Empire Riverside. Okay. Yeah, that's pretty much where you stay pretty much. Yeah. Okay. And what would you say elementary junior high or High School situation? I went to Diamond Elementary. I went to a couple actually cuz I just met as a kid. I wasn't that you know student that would just sit there and suck was workmanlike. I have a t i see my son like oh damn, that's me right there probably cuz I was just everywhere I would get antsy, so my mom would always have to move me man. I get in trouble or fight or whatever and I went from like Catholic schools to like fundamental schools and just regular like, you know what I'm saying basic education. I was like, I went to Diamond Elementary and then ended up going to car Junior High right across the street and all three all three schools were like right across the street from each other. So it was diamond and you have car intermediate and then you had sent out of Valley. Okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are growing up you play any sports at all. I did ma'am Big Time Sports basketball and baseball manager my thing I started at a in fact that was a way to keep me out of you know gangs and stuff. Mom would always keeps me active. You know, she always try cuz she was single mom. So she put me in sports heavy and I took a liking to it because I had an older Uncle who you know, he played Sports. So, you know, you just kind of gravitate towards your your you know, your siblings or what-have-you next to Ken and I play basketball from like maybe when I was think 7 all the way up to like fifteen sixteen through high school and then baseball the same thing. I think I started like my minor year like eight years old. What were you better at basketball or baseball? We said you was a baseball. Yeah the picture bro really picture and play The Outfield pretty well shortstop and field I was okay but pitching was my tank you ever get close to get her birthday. Academic scholarship or anything. Nobrow. In fact, once I once I like, you know got to the point where they told me you had to have grades to play. Go back to that student they all the way hold on a second. Okay. I'm killing it a little league. Wait a minute. I'm playing school and it's like boom. I didn't hit that grade and I started making you don't need it the grade point average. You can't play this year's wage. Like what I was like, but I mean, I think there's we're just pretty much anywhere like and the reason why is I didn't give up on my dream. It was just I already had started getting into music. Okay, started finding a new passion. Okay, but that was my original passion to be a professional baseball speaking about music growing up at home. What would you say was played at home as a kid growing up of Music would your parents play mom's I would I would dig into her eight-track tapes, bro, Teddy Pendergrass to her vinyls to you know, Saturday Night Fever John Travolta. Remind me to go to the discos a lot. You know what I'm saying? When I was younger cuz we live with my grandparents. So, you know, they would watch me and she'd go out. She was you know on the weekends with her girlfriends and they go dancing at Van dong goes or there's a couple of other places out there. I can't even tell them but she loved to dance so she had a lot of disco. So all all the Disco influence was from my mom all the old school Funk and like, you know, Prince Paisley Park days that whole era was influenced to me by my uncle was really like my brother. So we we lived with them my grandparents and so one end of the house you'd be hearing, you know, I'm saying old school Funk and then hip-hop and even some new wave in there's some adding that Adam and all that. So like he listened to everything off on the other side. You hear my mom bumping her disco, so oh shit. Yeah, you know what was dope about those days how we had double album, and we would open it and it would be like the Saturday Night Fever album cover off. Or like the grease album cover those were dope today. It's like I know we can download music or go to YouTube. Yeah, but they're to me I feel that this generation has a whole lot missing. For example, I often like to share that this generation will never experience walk into a store and actually seeing somebody buy their CD or their cassettes, right, you know, like the way we had sure or we had in stores and people would have come and you know, whether it was Tower Records them goodies Music Plus. Yeah the warehouse musicland. Yeah, Sam Goody's I feel I feel the same way. Now, you're right. It's kind of like a a present that you get and you can't wait to open it up and I remember running to the stores and going to see if this was out on that day and you could even see it from afar like you see the letter and you took down it's already empty like, oh man, they got it on display somewhere or or whatnot. But yeah, no, I hear what you're saying, man. And I remember the album's cuz I used to have them all there. Man top albums Fat Boys. You know what I'm saying? Put up stick them. Let's see here. I see the Krush Groove album Beat Street all that. Well, I grew up in the eighties and that's all I was young man in my room was just really just, you know, learn how to breakdance if I put them all together tape them up and then you know spin on them what not and you know that whole break in there and it was really a good everything in my life. I'll go ahead his crates and boom he had all the curves blows and like the old G stuff, you know, the early eighties. It just all seems so far away, but in reality bro, it was like within five years, you know what I mean? How long a younger you just look at things differently? Yeah, but you definitely got appreciate it man. I wish they could and I think we were just having this conversation on the way up here. That's why a lot of these places are selling turntables now and boss is coming back now and they're repressing. Oh man. Oh man. I have to look into that. Yeah, you know, let me encourage you if you don't already have this idea or not. You got Classics like Latin active something afternoon off. You know what? We're so really really good those on 45. Yeah, just say man. You're right. You think I think just for collectors items that selling that out? That's what that is. I mean are selling sneakers just to put them up DJ Castle. He was here when he brought Maria Avila here, right and we were talking about that and he said dude if you were to put like sit in the park. I'm not your puppet on one song. These are like I said, he's in for like twenty five bucks. If not more for a 45. Is that right? Yeah. That's that's what I said. I said probably cuz they'll homie. Hit me. Yeah. So yeah. I know I used to make money bro that's good, you know and to be able to have classic songs still twenty-nine Thirty Years Later speaks volumes wrong. Yeah speaks volumes because today's music it's hard to listen to a lot of the music is out today and think that people were probably even remember ten years from now. If not five. You know what I got schooled by an old-school cat and I've told the story a couple of times Jimmy Jazz Jerry Lewis, you know producers Janet Jackson on the list goes on but I interviewed Terry once and he I had asked him I said, what's your favorite old school song, you know of yours and he looked at me all crazy. He was like, well, what do you mean old school? Like I know school. What I do is I think is what I do is timeless. And he says because with y'all are doing nowadays what he's ours are doing whatever they're they're sampling from us, which means they're playing it today, which means another twenty years from now. It's it did belong. It's a birthday song. Yeah, it'll never go away you can always play it and I I just learned something that day. So I mean, yeah, we got old school Funk there's different labels whatnot. But when he said he really made sense and now I see eight year olds on their you know, or five year olds on their own her daddy's shoulders sing and my my songs at concerts and I'm going off it's crazy how Music Works how it's passed through you physically you you physically, you know, visually see it in front of you physically and that's how we were growing up right listening to our parents plan. That's the music about that's just how it's passed down and I think everybody out there that grew up on our music who share in that down to your kids. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Awesome memories. Your earliest how would you say remembrance of hip-hop? I know you mentioned the Fat Boys and other groceries growing up again mine. I was referred to it because I was like a six numbers to represent light right? I heard the Rapture by Blondie and then eventually many male Grandmaster Flash and those guys, right you growing up on your end of town. What would you say was some of the first page of songs that you've heard? Hm Ladi Dadi, we like to party. We you know that song Slick Rick Doug E fresh. I lived about maybe a mile away from from my school and I would give that song for at least two or three weeks straight bro. Like cuz I Knew by the time I finished it like four times I was at school and I was just memorize it, you know, and you know, LL Cool J the whole Bad album. That was my eighth grade year, you know, who else that's that's to happen to have the song the walk down the lobby. Yeah. It ain't go Cut Creator go out and he had a lot of good, you know the whole album wage. Shit, and then it was albums like all the Beastie Boys man life is Dale we grew up in the air was just now today again. It's Timeless. But those are legends. I mean run-dmc's raising, you know that tour back then you know what I'm raising. Hell tour I go over one of the greatest tours in history and to grow up, you know living that you know what I'm saying? And I thought it was dope and then I remember easy it just dropped, you know, Eazy-E Dopeman hour with with with NWA and I was you know walking and that was the that was that was the shit, you know, you go to school and it's like how long it would bring a new cassette tape or rhodium cassette, you know saying or you know, they got from the road and it's like man you got that new one on there. Like, you know, I just so many songs run through my head man. I was like, I used to buy those now, I was telling you all fair that my boy across the street is older than he had an Impala, right? And we used to said I said shotgun he would take me I was like 12 a.m. Like that, we go riding around had a box of cassettes and he'd have to I'd have to sit on sit on it cuz I was so low like this, right? So I was sit on and it was a bunch of like rhodium tapes bro. And Mom were all right there and and I was always see what's his new one, which is the one came out this week which came up this week, you know, and I remember like hearing like a king T or or eazy-duz-it or am I remember Battlecat he was DJ Battlecat. He would have his mixes 28, you know, I'm saying like all these cats and just remixes and a lot of the 808 came out of those cassettes man was Heavy. Yes. 808 boom with the Nissan trucks. May I keep talking about the eighties when I was a great-looking are man. I mean like you just mentioned and just throw in the Aqua Net hairspray with the girls of the linebackers dope era. I mean, you know, I mean think about the eighties for a second we have dope R&B. Okay. We have dope Funk. We have dope rock bands. Yeah dope hip-hop wage. I mean so many new wave the Disco slash a high-energy era we had what was it Lisa Lisa. What do we call the free-standing bath so much genres of music during that time and we have new wave that came which was MTV music videos. Yes. What did you think when music videos came out? So it was like wage thing since sliced bread, right? You know, then we also had a pop in and breaking were were on fire at that. Yeah. I suck. I wasn't very good. I said I used to practice but that's just I never got that man. I was told that my legs when I was doing windmills. I kick over buckets and but you could do it. Yes. I see I couldn't do when I called Grandma I could do it. I mean I grew up around in college man. I mean just you know turbo and ozone where my heroes man, don't you? Well, so to let me surprise you with something but Michael Chambers turbo like three blocks away from over here dead. All right. Yeah, that's who we pretty much grow. So you would see him huh? Yeah, well, he actually long story but he actually told me how to power we spent one summer together and this is how I messed a piano wage. He told me how to pop one summer. I was eleven years old I go to the swap meet with my mom to go. So I'm a swap me baby. Hm my brother was over to DJ and he says I'm going to go buy some records. You want to roll with me page who you can go. You know, where are you going to go over here some Japanese guy, you know for us Mexican people if you're Japanese Korean Filipino we call you guys Chino's America don't you know, that's why we do do that, So I went and I remember he played a song called Wicca rap. What's your name Coolio sample did and I just started popping the move that Michael Chambers turbo, right? You know, Tommy and I call Steve's eyes or Steve called me and he said hey, he says I'll let me see you do some of those moods again. So I started popping. Yeah, he goes. Can you page? Is recreational so like yeah, so I picked it up and said I want to give you a job as I like for reals and is so I'm thinking like, okay cool. Cool. Give me twenty bucks for two days. I'm thinking video game called like Star Castle send it to asteroids and all that crap is hitting video games. Yeah, so I started working with them but every so up and he'll tell me going front of the stand and pop to draw in a crowd and that was my history the beginning with Steve. Llamo. See what the heck. Yes. I see we get it from just so so know at what point would you say that you began at what age I say you ought to put you know, the PIN to the paper and start to, you know, Miss around as in writing while started in eighth grade, I mean Not make a long story short. I had a couple homies have a wrapping and I just walked up on them all day one day and I was like, hey, man, what's up? Like can I be down? You know him well and you can trap of like well, I mean, what's up? I mean I listen to ride bike how hard is it? You know and they were like well go home, right Iraq and come back tomorrow. You know, I'm saying school. I did bring home with my first came back Boom the lunch benches. That's where it went down. And you know only just throwing a beat and I just started, you know, wrapping in the paper whatever and I'm thinking I was in the crew man and it just left from there to like, you know High School Excuse Me Miss junior junior high dances, we were rapping at the dances and we didn't even a thousand show we would get a lip sync contest we did Beastie Boys and we did a time to get ill what's the time it's time to get it up and it was me my boys Pig tale and then my my boy Louis And I just I just found a liking to the you know to the stage right there. I go man. This is something that I could see myself doing later cuz I mentioned you know baseball is my thing. I was in that but yeah, I was just been like God wanted to be you know on on the stage part of life, you know, I mean at that time, who would you say? I know you mentioned the Beastie Boys were some of the your favorite rappers that you can say is kind of at now again at that time. We just kind of like in my style tool was there anybody I know you mentioned the Beastie Boys. Okay. So anybody that played a big part in my Giro when I first started within this page forward to like 10th ninth grade tenth grade Rockingham hands down Rakim Big Daddy Kane and man house guys were ahead of their time. You know what I mean? And I grew up on that and it was East Coast for me at the time. I mean, yeah, I bumped easy. I you know NWA and and what not, but on the cassettes they were both so I would listen to them. Both and I remember when Eric B for president came out. I was still living sometimes like eighth grade sound grab her dad was like this dude. He killing it. You know what? I mean? I came in the door. I said it before I've never liked it was just riding the beat and I like to do is on another level. I was like I had to learn that you know, because that was the first time I was introduced to to brag rap would say right versus someone like Slick Rick, you know, I'm saying telling a story, you know, you had a lot of stories back then LL Cool J. I Need Love That was she was at the time and and the First Love Song by the way, and but that was though and it was just too Malcolm McLaren. You know what I'm saying? Buffalo Gals hobo scratch like the just the beats were just knocked was something about the young man and but Rakim was the one that made me really just want to put a pen at the paper. You know what I was telling my son that because I always cuz he was asking me who's my favorite two rappers growing up and I said, It was a no specific orders either academically rigorous one to me. That was like the epitome of hip-hop right after that. Of course, you can add like people like Public Enemy, you know next set of other. Yeah and Crews I never got into Harris. That's one dude. I did accept my philosophy. Okay, that was it. But anyway, so so what happened was that one off? My son asked me and I hadn't I hadn't thought about it. I would give him like certain songs to listen to when he would give me some of his new song to listen to right and I couldn't get into his shit. Yeah, I was it off now now he's twenty-nine. Okay, but twenty-nine so but this was like, I don't know tonight. I mean years ago. Okay. All right. Yeah, that's what I gave him early 90s hip-hop and he gave me some of his stuff that was like six seven years, right and I just couldn't get into it and then but he liked all of mine. So then what I did I looked up how old I mean when was Rockin born and then I looked up when off. The song by Carrie the one you just mentioned about food know. I'm Sorry by Every Beat came here to be a president. Everybody's president. I looked a window was released and he was a teenager. I want to say 90 G. I don't want to be wrong. Yeah. Yeah. He was young. He was a teenager 1918. So when I told my son that he couldn't believe that a teenager was kicking like that, right, you know, so then I said, I'll take that teenager off these teenagers. That's what I'm talking about. Right? There's the difference and he just like he just agreed but I think made your product of your environment bro, like if you wrap and especially at that time Hip Hop was just born, you know, speak ten years prior or even knowing that era was just new to hadn't even cracked mainstream at all was strictly underground. So everything you heard you just wanted you suck it up just like Kate a man. That's why it was you know phenomenal it is what it is today and gets well respected because it was AM radio station that just blew the hell up. And where did you go for your hip dog? You didn't have those tapes you go to k day because mainstream radio was playing still Billy Joel Bruce Springsteen. You know what I'm saying? All these Duran Duran which is cool too because I grew up on that too. But if you wanted that raw hip-hop, it was getting a little bro. We're going to go ahead and take a little break. We're going to go ahead and press pause right there when we come back. I want to talk about how you met Bobby Ross. So thank you all once again for coming we're going to be back in about 10 minutes. So make sure you call somebody text somebody slap the shit out of somebody let them know that all the Ms. And the motherfuking building will be back in a minute School get yourself a drink will be right so violent, Tony. Welcome to r o t and radio and I am your host only a the wizard. We started a GoFundMe page because we need you to help us meet our goal. And our goal is to be released a Chicano rap documentary. 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I need everybody to subscribe to Freaky Tales play podcast week all live every Friday what we discussed a paranormal Freaky Tales spooky story type of shit. So on YouTube it is Freaky Tales podcast. Once again, we encourage you if you guys have any special orders go ahead and email them and we share him at the end of the show bring it up Podcast at gmail.com, but we'll get into that later. So without further Ado once again, please allow me to introduce odm of lighter shade of brown on a date my brother. So I'm having a great time because we're we're starting from the very beginning to the present but we're somewhere somewhere in the middle age or rapping you belong to a group. I want to say you do the junior high or high school. And from there at what point would you say or how long after that? Was it that you Med Bobby off? Was there more to it before him or yeah. Well, yeah cuz I stopped Junior High and and Ninth Grade. I stop driving cuz I was playing more on baseball and then I started getting started getting into you know trouble and you know running the streets being a little obvious. Oh man and you know hanging out the homies whatnot just get in trouble. So my uncle had got married the same uncle was talking about we live with and he had met someone who lived out in Riverside i e so he ended up getting married and moving back over there and he told my mom cuz you know, we're small immediate family and I said, hey, this would be a good spot to raise Robert, you know, I know he's getting into a lot of trouble, you know. Hey, let's move out this way, you know be a better life for him. So my mom was like, okay, so my grandparents ended up selling their house and Santana and then we moved to Riverside about a house out there and we just kind of just you know migrated over there and so long story short. I started goofing. School in Riverside and High School La Sierra and there were some homes there that were like wrapping right? And here I was I thought it was like want you can go on. You know, how long an outsider you know what I'm saying? Like, I want a red one, you know where I'm from and and they they let me know real quick, you know say like it ain't where you from home is where you at, you know what I'm saying? So with that being said, I mean they started rapping lot of space. I was like, let me go right to his first so boom. I just picked up a pain, you know, once you got it, you got it bro and never leaves you and we're talking maybe a year. You know what I mean have gone by since I wrote my last rap. So boom took a wrap and we used to battle man. We battle have the lunch Spence's and there's what I noticed though. I saw that I saw like behind me. You know what I'm saying? After I would finish my verse was only a handful of Mexicans. You know, I'm saying right there at the where where I went to school. It's predominantly, you know, why area you had a handful of Mexicans and then, you know little small percentage of black and but the Mexicans over there bro, they have my back bro. Like they were just like like, you know, cuz I would just, you know, put it down one by little heart. Okay, I used to go by and and I was just, you know do my Thing and there's why like slowly but surely started seeing a movement, you know, like, okay. All right, like I'm one of them, you know I'm saying they're proud because I'm putting it down and like, you know what, I mean sort of speak English rapping about, you know us, you know what I'm saying what not. But to me it was like I was just hip-hop member. I'm growing up on rock and Big Daddy Kane. I'm just spitting bars the whole lot going on, you know, Chicano movement didn't come off. It didn't register yet until later which will get into but I had an artist you might have heard of her and her name was big Lady K. Yeah. I thought she was the first female on ruthless records Eazy-E and she actually was from Riverside and she got transferred over to my school and I saw her and I had right away. I recognize the issue was cuz I bought her album cover at down in Music Plus or wherever it was like two weeks ago man, it's big Lady K. So finally I went up to her, you know I said, hey man, I'm a fan, you know what I mean? And her brother was there and I wage Hey, what's up, man? What's your manager? You know what I'm saying right away. All like I'm trying to get some I'm trying to get in and she was like, all right. Let me hear you rap so I did my thing, you know my 16 bars or whatever. I don't know what sixteen Bars were by the way, probably whatever it was. This is long rep that I did. She's like, okay. Okay. Okay. All right, man, you pretty dope for a Mexican. You know what I'm saying? I remember telling how like a call it what you want a sudden he was like, so she walked me over to a pay phone at the school Payphone kids and it's one of those you put the thing in dial-up and then she had me wrapped for her manager and How much it is something right? Because he got my number then boom next thing, you know and the week like two weeks later. We were doing demos inside my bedroom and said my house, you know, we'd bring the four-track DJ Cam and James shut off the James if you're watching his part of the Cade a crew to manage Emma James the whole Movement Ralph em, all them. Yeah. James was very, how do I say, you know, the man is my very first producer. I got introduced to I started doing demos and I'm getting I said, I started sure but I'm giving you I'm giving you exactly how it run down broke and we started recorded them was in my four-track manager at the time was shopping My Demo. I did a three-song demo. I think it was in video and then it was another song or yakimova. I rapped over something or you come or don't ask me how I don't know what the hell it was, but I rubbed about but it was just all brag reps and the time and it was another one whatever and birth. I remember he came to me. So we got to change your name and I said well, what's wrong little are you know saying Robert homie? That's my name. You can't just cut my name and have like that off the Record. But now he says let me come up with something and I'll call you in the morning. So that's all right so said hey man, I got it. And I said, what is it goes OD M. I said, all right. What is that? It's got to be behind it and goes. Well, you're solo rapper cuz I was so low at the time had met Bobby and he goes one used to call yourself dope. You know what I'm saying? You think you're dope and Mexican let's let's get it all through next I said, let's go man. I just wanted to get in the studio, right? That's how it was. Like I was you know, sixteen years old bro, you know what I mean? And I just wanted to do my thing and come out like here's opportunity Odeon. Let's roll with it. So after That the way I'm at Bobby was mellow man Ace. Okay had dropped mentirosa. Okay, and he was doing his thing and in the clubs, he would come to the page. You would perform out there and the clubs there and I remember the girls from school. They would come they would come to school the next day. I saw all I first of all how the hell you get it nevermind whatever you went and saw my get it off. So it come live with key chains and everything. So he had that out and then my managers few or his plan was to me be the first, you know, quote unquote, rapper out mainstream and I'm saying McDonald here West Coast and just when you knew it like Kid Frost dropped out I said, you know I'm saying yeah, and then as soon as that came out wrong and it was like We gotta do a group we wasted no time. So what he did was my DJ which was Fable of Fabian. He knew another rapper he went to school with cuz they grew up on the other side of town, you know, then where I was and he says man I got this cat. You know what I mean? He's dope. He he does cover. So like all these rappers Heavy D Public Enemy chut Ki Bava Bava. He's a rabbit. You know, he he does those but you know, he's got a good voice writer and we're just going. Okay. What was this cat? So that happened to be Bobby. You know, she brought Bobby back to the studio one day and we had we linked up and we were just kind of, you know feeling each other how we say like pit bulls. You know what I'm saying? Like each other I like cuz it's a competitive thing is I'm still a rapper. I still got a ego and I'm sixteen so you can imagine like, you know, and I grew up on Rock him like, you know, I mean like I'm ready to you know saying, but you know, he just dead. The he had them achieved a little older than me, you know, and we I just remember we started writing writing verses together in the same room. It was a matter of fact, we used to drive out here to Glendale off and there was a my manager had a studio apartment in Glendale and I would drive up here on the weekends when I was in school and me a favor D. We'd come up here and then we would just write our demo the same thing with record them on a four-track cassette. You know what I mean? I did it all. You know, I did the microphone underneath the in the closet. That was my studio booth. You know what I mean with the wire straight to cassette and James would be home cooking a beat and we will just do our thing and we started working on a demo. And another three song demo and I think it was TJ nights was one of them the body of like I said and then what was the third one was just the wine I think and was which was on the first Brown and proud up and we shopped that and it took us one year. I think before we got signed to Quality records. Wow. And yeah, but that was a lot of going to record label was trying to sell the idea and this and that but it was a lot easier. I will tell you that Frost and mellow had came over that have hit records that just kind of opened the door really open the door like they kicked it down, you know what I'm saying? And we just followed right through man and and that was the birth of lighter shade of brown. Yeah, you know, you know, you said something earlier that I want to touch on you said homegirl said you're pretty dull for a Mexican. Yeah. Okay. We know that this game is dead. I'm really black hip-hop game. You know that now one time when my homies were to see me cut and scratch. Hm. My black home is already said you're pretty tough for a Mexican right. So one day I kind of put the run on them and I said, you know that one guy Charis one that guy can he can read pretty good for a black guy and he took that took offence to that right? You know and our people what do you say that must be good. I mean just break up and submit that guy for a black guy. He could share from smart and after do you don't realize what you just said. Yeah, you know, but I think a lot of times say I don't like to let people get away with that kind of shape. Right right y kind of bring it out good good. But yeah, so to me telling us down whether you're you know, we would not Eminem for a White Guy is pretty damn right? He's got talent, right and talent comes in all different shapes sizes and colors for all I think again, I mean hands down I grew up off. On hip hop man, and it was predominately black culture, you know what I'm saying? And like I said your product what you listen to and I listen to it. Those are my influences and I just happen to be a homey, you know, traditional grew up out the hood girl who did his thing and loved and appreciated. I embrace it and I thank you. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I learned from Joe Cooley and I learned from a Tony G on pretty much detain wage act in the Cuban and you know what I give it up every time yeah. Yeah, you know, but sometimes I don't like to be singled out as you're pretty good for a Mexican, you know, what's crazy is Ralph am was Ralph and the Mexico doesn't he write the Mexican all the mags again? Haha shout-outs to Ralph. And so so you guys get signed? Yeah. Let me tell you my little lighter shade of brown story. Okay, I showed you want me because I always go hang out with Stevie on. The rhodium. So I will show up to see how My Mixtapez were selling and he goes, I want you to check something out. Tell me what you think and I said, okay. Yep. Remember I played You Boyz in the Hood and I said, yeah, I want you to listen to this and he plays her everybody go. Hm. He plays it and I'm like, who's that? And he goes lighter shade of brown. What do you think? Oh, that's right, right. That's just dope check it out. Give us the two singles or whatever. He would always give me to DJ and I was like, okay cool cool. You know what? I'm going to take it home cut it up or whatever but I started even more spell the wine. I started hearing the the other one Latin actor. Yeah went right. Now. What was what the people that may not know your very first single that was dropped from you. Was it off and get a single? Yeah. Okay, and how was the response when that came out? Immediately when it hit the Airways, I mean we hadn't added that one. So I'm stationed out there. Which trip I've been working for them for the last twenty years. But man it was I was in high school. I heard it and everybody else just embracing it because you didn't hear nothing like that on the radio. You heard rap. I mean I'm saying you heard. I mean you're coming off of Just months before I mean, what was hit at the time I think you know Young MC Bust a Move song Candyman Knockin Boots These are all the mainstream hip-hop songs. Yes, I'm Tone. Loc Wild Thing Funky Cold Medina. So to hear hip hop on there and to see you know, she kind of doing that right bro. I was just like whoa, like everybody's had to take a step back and and we knew because you know, they would call that we go to the radio station. They do a little bumper dumper jamming door slamming typed it and it was just you can hear it in their voices and then I went to school the next day and it was all of a sudden it was on. You know what I'm saying? Like I was the man, you know what I mean and like yeah, man, we were just song last night club. They want again and one again cuz they would do it every night. They repeat the song on the jem'hadar slamming thing and you go up against another record, but they just embraced the overall like it was it was the start of a new era, you know, it's a beautiful thing to share because how many people can say they had a song on the radio had a record deal and was still in high school, right? You know, I mean think about that often laugh after that. I was not real story. Okay. I'll tell you bro. And this is what it is. Like I did I came out my son my junior year off over the summer and then when I was a senior that's when it was popping teaching. I just dropped I was already doing you know shows, you know, we were touring we're doing promotional shows what not here. They're trying to promote it and promote the album that that was coming never good at school. I knew there was something that drove me I knew even know what it was at this point by my junior year. I know this. What I wanted to do is what I wanted to be and birth I got my mom. I was my mom was like dude your crazy. I was like Mom but she was always supportive. I believe it or not. She supported me. She's okay meal. I see. All right. You got your record deal. Okay and place home and you gotta you gotta think like to be a parent. It's like taking a gamble course, either you're going to tell them know and just Crush their dreams and their possible future, you know what I'm saying? Because you want me to go a certain path you want them to finish school go to college and you know get these degrees we'll have it with you know, or you're going to support them and really, you know, Be with them along the way with this new journey, and I think she started seeing when we started getting radio play and doing the shows and whatnot. Like okay, this is really starting to happen often. So we tried the independent study thing, you know at home school whatnot. But bro, I was already we were it just happened that quick like we were already touring and like Seventeen and I was doing my thing man. I'm back. You know. Another thing that I want to add to that is that you've experienced something that sadly to say that most teenagers today would probably never ever hear their song on the radio, you know, most of the way most people do today. It's up on Spotify. It's on our platforms, right? So on YouTube and those are great, you know technology and everything that we can use our music out there, right? I gotta storage but you know to hear our song on the radio. Yeah, it's just something totally different and even to this day and you're right you hit it because even artists that are big YouTube Stars Jake Saying and and whatnot independent. Yeah, they still believe a lot of them. Do not saying all of them still believe that you haven't made it until you hear your song on the radio because I go bro, you're making you have this big following you got million just now or whatever but like a man, but I want to get my song on the radio still like, you know, like you said they they still get that by you have to because I remember from me when I first heard it. I was rolling in the car where I where I was had it been in and when I heard I was like I realized damn thousands thousands of people listening to my song right now and it was just that, you know get that Goosebumps feeling like man. You just want to hear it again. You want to hear again? Oh, yeah part of our pain our dog was traveling and doing promotional tours, right? You know, a lot of people don't understand that promotional tours was we weren't getting paid, but we were on a tour where we were promoting ourselves off. And to be able to go to a different state or different city and people knew was just from the radio, right, you know, or maybe our picture from the single-ride what not, you know, too don't get me wrong because I mean we would radio would play our songs which fly in we do the show we get paid we do our thing. Then we leave we had it not going to say I must say we were fortunate enough to have a record label put money into us and you know, the end of the day was we put out good music. So the radio was able to identify with it, as you know household, you know, we were household name, you know during Sunday afternoon that we were safe. Yeah is what they call themselves like, okay, we can play this and we were fortunate enough to be able to go tour. Like I said and go to these places never really big on merchandise, but I'm what I'm saying? We didn't get that and I remember seeing cats like MC Magic, you know out there hustling, you know what I'm saying? His cassettes is his buying off. Doing it on stage and we would give out cassettes but they were the record labels that would give us this like, all right, you know, but he I'm sure he pressed up all this stuff and he would just you know with his own money back then you'd see him and you know at the 10th selling his merchandise and what we we get our you know, we get our money from the show and we bounce cuz we were making good money, right but now I kick myself in the ass. Cuz a go, can you imagine now right, you know our back then if I was selling merch afterwards and I didn't get that game. It was telling Tony it was just moving so fast. We were going city city city like that. So often I got respect for those that that, you know, grinded like that and still do you know and I mean, I'm even you know Merchants where it's at bro, like in the fans love it they want. Yeah, absolutely assure. So, yeah, you can go and check this out. We just drop this one right here. It's me and Bobby who can guess what video this is from type of wage. Right now he already knows the you know rest in peace one right here, man. Hello l s o b. So now you guys dropped Thursday nights. What was your next single Latin actors plan active now speaking of Latin active. How did you guys come to me Shiro? Okay, so we were in the studio and it's crazy cuz I don't remember her singing online active, but I do remember the Sunday afternoon cuz I remember when we packaged up brown and proud which is the first choice that were original release had two different versions of Latin active and Sunday afternoon, really Latin active shower was on the original version. She was again, I don't remember this that page story of I don't think I was there while she wants she's done on it. I just remember hearing it when it was done completed a mixed, but Sunday afternoon. I remember we had a dog When the studio because radio love the song but it had no course at us to the diehards to man that had the original cassette Brown and proud. There was no course. It was just the whole T doodle 2 on a Sunday afternoon, dude, like blank. Wow. So yeah, so then we went in the studio with Jammin James and we were sitting there like man the record labels there and I you guys are is like do we need we need a course. We need something catchy like all these rap songs with you know, they got courses on them. So we gotta come something. So then James was like man, I know this girl cousin she sings say well, you know get her on in here. So he called her up and and Shiro of hey, we'll come down while I'm here with lighter shade of brown will recording a song and you come down. She said, okay, so she she came down and I remember I wasn't there and nobody she was singing it but I was there when he was mixing it. I remember mellow many metal came with me to the studio that day and we were I forgot what stood out there was Larry be one of the Larrabee North or South up there in Hollywood and we were just chilling and upstairs and I just heard the mix being made and I heard that voice and Shiro was I was like, oh wow, and then they replay the old they put the base over the old eBay's they put the guitar over the guitar, you know, they play it over the sample. Now, it's starting to sound like a different sort like a real song. You actually feel it. Cuz remember the old days they couldn't really The Sounds were left ripe and you know what I'm saying the bass lines, but when you put that based on there, you know, and man it just really stood out and then we had a member. What's his name? Rocky Padilla? Danny's his brother came in. He played saxophone on Sunday afternoon. Oh, really? You didn't know that. So shout out to Rockingham brother. Rest in peace came in put out of the stacks to it was so romantic. Oh, wow. Yeah, I need to ask you about somebody that people have been dying to for me to ask you about because one of my first shows that I did I want to say was either Tempe or Mesa coyoacan show Johnny in AZ and we performed with you guys. I want to say it was Nineteen Ninety one and I still may even have the flyer cuz I found everything. Yeah and Teardrop was there that's when I met her okay, you guys did an active and she wrapped now people want to know how did you guys come to meet her and what happened to her? You know, that's a good question cuz I get that asked a lot. We were introduced to teardrop through our boy Chulo South Central Bento. He was on our first album as well. He revved on the brown and proud single and his girlfriend at the time was Denise teardrop. Okay, so I think our manager cuz he had this whole vision for our album, which is crazy. I gotta give his black by the way. Yeah, you know put together this Chicano segment based album a I'm saying it was just amazing how he laid it out for us. Anyway going back to teardrop. He was like, yeah. Well, let's get to your job, you know your girl she can wrap. We need a female life on this. You know what I'm saying that enacted we got Shiro, but but let's put a female and I think I want to say one of the songs that was out. There is a song. I think we got the idea from another song There was a female rap in with two guys and before Fuji's it was before it was some group found. It was just the idea to have a female voice in there. So should we put her in there? I think children wrote her she went in there. She spit a verse and it just came together man. Bobby was first I thought she was the middle and I was the last one. Yeah, and that was it as far as future music. I mean she toured with us like you said he came with us maybe for the first leg and I'm saying maybe even the first six months or something like that, you know, and then she just kind of you know, when it went our separate ways for whatever reason and that's it's just can't doing our thing. We didn't connect with her until years later until you know, Bobby and I eventually we started talking back in 2016. Okay, 2015 wage. Okay again, and we ended up I'm sorry. No, ninety. Ninety-eight. We were linked up with her. So that was Nineteen Ninety one and we reconnect over there. We did album greenside records and ninety ninety seven and she wraps on another song with his called they can't stand it which we also brought Shiro back here. As a matter of fact, I was there for the release party that you guys had in Hollywood. That was dope man. That was a great feeling just to be back on stage man. Yeah, cause yeah and so from twenty-twenty, when's the last time you've actually seen her or heard of her was 2016? Okay, we we did a comeback. So we hooked up with a lou-lou Pizarro Operation Repo Man, you know best from that that t show where they go repo right big Mexican do we not busy anymore, but him and his birth was balled his his homie his sister does it now? But anyway, long story short he's you know producer and we met him backstage dwtx and now, you know, we had just got weary linked after birth. Years and our first show was the Art Laboe show was in 2015. So there is where we met Lou Louis backstage. Hey, man, I'm a big fan of you guys home. I really see myself doing something with you. You know what I mean as far as creating some type of show we gotta we gotta do a show on your story man, Sunday afternoon was was huge. Yeah, you guys are you know off dominantly the one of the groundbreakers for Chicano rap, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's gotta be a story on and were like, let's get it, you know what I mean? And so we started filming You know some some footage he would come on the road us. We do shows they've come whole camera crew whatnot and just filming this whole reality show type TV thing. Right? Well, we had a how long to do this. Come back show reunion shows they call it a lot of shed reunion and I think it was sgv. Was that this this this Comedy Spot and it was a comedy show slash Iraq. It was hosted by let's see route. Okay Gilbert Esquivel comedian. We were working with his brother Rudy and off a couple of others on everybody started showing up and so they said what's the name Amelia Amelia Loretta as a way to he saw like, oh jeeze will come out and then Denise teardrop. She actually agreed to come rehearse with us for that show, cuz we were playing with the live band. Oh, we're playing with Rocky Padilla and his band. He had a band and also DJ pinky was DJing for a job. Pcj painters so long story short, that's when I had seen her in 2016. That's when that took place. I haven't seen her since and I was at and we've been on we've been doing shows on the road. I've been reaching trying to reach out to her and I think she's just in a place where she's just good. Yeah. I don't you know think it's not for everybody this whole Limelight thing and but damn man, what a verse. Yeah, and that verse goes avoid into his bro. Now, let me ask you something that I think is very interesting at that time. Was there any other Chicanos out there, uh took up and that you could remember cuz we're talking about nineteen. Ninety one. Ninety one. Not that I can think of off your off that had a record out except later on JV neighborhood Queen. Yeah. Yeah. That was another one that I was working with on ninety-eight ninety-nine and long story but that album deal never went through I still have songs that unreleased that I did with her. Really? Yeah. She's got a fagg. Is in fact they're looking for her like they're looking for you know, you know what I hope she's probably watch, you know, somebody sends us to her. Yeah, but I had one of my boys recently. Well I should say earlier this year. I'm going to reach out to her convenience a little bit closer to her than I do. Right and she just was not interested in. There you go. So I get it man. It's it's a crazy. It's a crazy game, you know as much as us off not only being friends but also expands of what they do. We want to see them sure, but it's ultimately up to them. Yeah. Yeah, but check this out. We're going to take a break when we come back. I got some more questions I asked you about and I think people are going to be excited about what's coming next. So, I'm excited. I'm on Tony I'm with rhodium radio baby absolutely wage. And once again call somebody take somebody slept still have somebody let him know that odm. Is it the motherfuking building or your back 10 minutes ago? Cuz I'm going to drink. Okay. Don't fuck around come back. Welcome back everybody to rolly radio episode 98 and I'm not going to waste any time. So we're going to go ahead and jump right back into it with all the M of lighter shade of brown. So once again brother, it's a pleasure for you to be here. I want to thank you. Once again, you're you're not only bringing me back but also the public back down memory lane and we're learning things and seeing things that we possibly didn't know before like my next question on a lot of people may not know where some people may know that at one point in your career. You actually met Celina rest in peace. Hm. Can you share with us how that came about so we wage yeah. We we got offered to do this to do a Coca-Cola. Commercial and it was a Spanish in English and they had explained to us who you know was going to be down with it the whole commercial and they said there was a house Coral freestyle singer Coral. I think Timmy T was supposed to be a part of I'm not sure if he made it or not. I don't remember. I know there's a video floating around the commercial itself Lisette Melendez M and Selena and I was like, wow, I hung girls man. She's hella cool. Like she's not beautiful. Like I can't believe we're gonna we're gonna meet Selenas, you know, and I was like, all right bet so I remember we got introduced to her. We all had recorded went inside the recording studio. We did not Parts obviously separate and I remember recording the song and then I would hear her voice and like we came on after her and it was like Whoa, man, we coming up after her and so we recorded the song the song of shooting the video a few weeks later. And I remember it was upstairs. The the studio were recording a video and we had to get in this elevator. We got in Me and Bobby, you know, we went inside the elevator then all of a sudden there's three people walking and it was Selena her sister and her brother a b and and life is their rooms. They're room y'all's like yeah. Come on man. Come on as a man. Nice to meet you like we met Selena in an elevator like oh crazy is that so we're going up to the floor and Thursday. We're just sitting there and there's like hey, like, you know, she had that southern accent mad. Love y'all music all that Sunday afternoon would be hitting in Corpus, you know, and you know, cuz she's from Corpus Christi off. And she was I was just like man she was so sweet. And I remember her sister was was little quiet baby was cool. But she was just like this the biggest sweetheart ever like you, you know her just as you envisioned her that's the way she was in person, you know? Yeah, man, I'm really happy cuz I get you all excited to do this. And now this is awesome. And you know, okay guys, we got to the dog and boom she went her way and she went and I think she did her seen first. Okay, cuz we were doing Chris and green green screen stuff. And so we were just sitting there watching her and she was dancing doing her moves and singing in and we went up we were next and I hadn't seen her after that probably maybe a couple more weeks later. It's actually probably a couple of months later but we woke up again. We get the show at Disneyland and it was with her and it was a Coca-Cola thing and Coca-Cola classic and they had us out there performing was just a lighter shade of brown Selena song. Now I think Daisy Fuentes remember the whole video jocks. She she was out there a hosting it and there it is. We saw her backstage again and and we were just like getting some Grover had like a buffet, you know them backstage and yeah, man was just chopping of a guys here. We are again, you know, we took pictures and I've no idea where the damn pictures went story of my life and I got a pox story and it should be some sort of share with you too as far as you know memorabilia. But yeah, I mean it was just she was a sweetheart man. That's all I could say. You know, where where did you record that song at home and Winchester the video? Was it the same cuz I heard you say it was upstairs. I well know the the place we shot. The video was upstairs. That was later after we recorded the song the song was like recorded in a studio downtown LA. Okay, so here okay. Yeah. Yeah, okay and then the video same thing. Yeah, everything was in LA Basin and just just not not just This isn't like yeah Disney World. Everything was here. So yeah, that's dope man. SWS had a chance to meet her. What year was this? Let's see. We had our Sunday afternoon. So 92,000. Wow. Yeah somebody out there probably has the video but I mean, like I said it literally they tagged me all the time on it and it's really cool to hear it and but yeah, it was ninety-two. Wow. Oh wow. Oh wow, and at the same time to have met, you know a legend like her who you know me. She rest in peace. Now, you know, it just said and everyone when that happened, you know what I'm saying when her her passing away, but you mentioned is Eat'n Park sure those so when I was thirteen I was living in like I said Orange County I when we used to go up to Knott's Berry Farm, they've they used to have a studio K and everybody go out there and Pop I mean I saw her work from AutoZone turbo there. He never know who you were going to see it was The Happening spot. So we were there one when weekend off. I was a channel look over and I see easy walk in with his two bodyguards the big Samoans one and two and there's just sitting there. Excuse me. I think there was someone that I thought that to us to you know, what song and they're like, oh, that's the moment. But anyway, there were chilling and he's just checking out the scene what not and I was like man is Eazy-E and I have my hat on and off that I got from the Slauson Swap Meet. Remember they used to put the names on the side. Right? Right what the old school of the starter cats? I think it was the snap backs. And so I walked over to him. I said Joey what's up, dude? Hey, man, who I'm thirteen years old a man. Thank you signed my hat and he looked at me and he goes hey, hey, man, he goes. Yeah, man, he goes. I'm just chilling right now he goes, but but I'll get to it and I was like, all right. I'll go back to my corner. I'm just all there. I mean creepers statuses watch it. I don't care what the hell's going. I'm just sitting there watching them and boom I see him. Just bounce what how long Yards like they just left right and I was like, I think I was only the sound of the crowd was super packed. I couldn't make my wheel that's like damn so about an hour later like we're walking around Knott's Berry Farm. We're over by the log ride and I see easy walking with his what his wife and his kids or any have like have won a bunch of stuff animals, whatever and he was carrying a right and then he goes I saw Michael a Mac. Tomo me in a month. Like I want to put them up like yo, I was like, hey man, I thought you said you're going to sign my hat. What's up, dude? And he goes, he looks at me. He looks at his wife. He takes his stuff animals. He says here get him to his wife. He says hold this and he puts him right there on the on the car seat or the the stroller, right? It comes over to me sits down. Takes my hat and I didn't have a Sharpie. I had a pen. It's all I had so, you know, when you sign out of grass with the I know you sound a lot of autograph donate you have to when you get a pen. You gotta go over it. You can't see it sometimes so he said sat there and wrote his name said to Robert. Easy motherfuking he but it took him like 5 minutes cuz he had a trace over so he took that time and that memory I'll never forget bro. Yeah, and the moral strength is I don't know where that has that today. You know what I'm saying? Show me right now and I had a similar story with Tupac. Okay, and I'll tell you that right now. So Nineteen Ninety Four were up north. We're doing the show might have been ninety three, ninety three ninety degrees. It's with this lineup was sick man. It was Chubb Rock salt and pepper, Pete Rock CL Smooth Tribe Called Quest you name it was their Hip Hop was there when they did the Big Summer Jams right here on the West Coast The Far Side Gang Starr Guru Guru was there. And it was me and Dee Bobby. We were in a circle. So you have fat lip right here and Gang Starr Guru Bobby myself off and pox on stage. He's wrapping up the show and he's playing with a live band. He just dropped by a Justice, right? Okay. So we're Chillin we're hanging out. We're just shooting it up. You know, I'm shooting the shit is talking man and the next thing you know, you'll like it's all staged and he does his thing. I know he goes in the back whatever, you know comes back out and we're just like they're my side of the stage. He walks over has had to the side, you know back in like he'll sell where the weed at. You know what I'm saying? Keeping Bobby was a smoke a lot. I touch it like he you know, Bobby got high often. So Bobby reaches in his pocket and he pulls out one of those old-fashioned remember the the films when you would take pictures and then you'll get a developed and they come in the little black little tubes, right? And the filmstrips would be in there. Well, Bobby had a pack of weed. You know what I mean? So he opened it up. There you go. I got some right here Bobby cell and pop was like all bad. That's why I try a little homie and you know gave Bobby loves like yeah punk was I thought was some lighter shade of brown man and blah blah blah. Hello cool, bro. So I was like man, I had a Poetic Justice hat on so I took my hair. I say you're a manager real quick man, like job real cool getting you know, we was on the same stage in stock. So he he signed it. And I don't know where that has that today bro. That's why I come to hear Brock. Oh man, like you have all your shipping back in the day. Like I didn't save it. Like honestly, I probably gave it away. Like they're said that I would just took hold on to like our music I wouldn't hold on to it. I would give you my last cassette and not even think about myself, you know what I mean? Because I want you know, I was like that in the very beginning but after a while like screw that back I'm saying. Yeah, I've thought of keeping everything because I used to have boxes and boxes of My Mixtapez my homies to come up with all this one. Yeah, bring it back never brought it back. Right, right, but boy, yeah, that was one of the course I was going to have to do you have any pictures but you said you don't know what we got some thanks to Mom. I know you and I were talking off-air that you know, your mom's had a lot of your stuff as well. And so did my mom so she would stuff that she did a matter of fact. I just got back like two years ago. She was like here I'm moving you want this I said, yeah, I got a son now. Yeah, I mean like he's going to appreciate this. So let me do it for him at least and you know, so how long I had like old stuff from like ninety-two ninety-three. My solo stuff. There's pictures of Me and Bobby got hip hop locals posters, you know, stack of those. She would say save a stack like a ball arrive. So there's so many young couple of to eight by tens in there from like our old photoshoots cassettes. I got vinyl of, you know, our singles and whatnot. But yeah, there's some stuff, you know, like home. Maybe you already have this idea of not allow me to share just you have posters you have glasses or pictures or whatever right you ever think about reprinting up your glasses on your posters and just setting them up to the fans off. That's a great idea. And I know there's cats out there man, they'd be making money like somebody's got it. I'm telling you. I know there's somebody who works at our old record label that ended up with a stack of those and sell them on eBay broke. Oh, okay, cuz you go to eBay you see him. I had to buy my own. Hey by chance just to put it on a shirt. It was like for like the only Tony bought it. I think it was like like thirty bucks wage. A bucks or something for eight by ten. Wow, so then I ended up buying another one that you had said, you gotta buy your own a Dubai mileage Molly. But my mom she kept like ten glasses of our first one. She kept like maybe off of the second one. So I still have all my original glossies. Nice my original Source magazine when I came out in it Rampages like she kept everything right? You know, I have all the Lowrider magazine believe or not. I used to stash those. I was wondering that I stashed if any dope. Okay. So let's go back a little bit something that I want to know if possible Latin active and if I'm correct Sunday afternoon off. Correct. Net order today now, there's something afternoon. I already know the answer, but I want you to share that they take off immediately. I did it did immediately as far as West Coast because see they were already pumped by Latin active and TJ nights when I mean West Coast, I mean the Southwest you know, Riley fast, Nevada and New Mexico South everybody, you know, I'm saying that house and all that whole lowrider circuit as we're talking about who are already doing shows. So they knew it was coming if you had the album like, you know, how you get an album and you go down. That's the next one. That's a single like everybody knew about it who were fans of our group. So yeah when it dropped and the new version came out as I mentioned the original package was with a different remix, right, We released the second one and then we started doing you know promo tours for that. Yeah, bro. It just blew up radio just immediately I think radio picked cuz you know radio likes to pick your signals at least they did back then. Yeah, and that's that's almost so hot. I remember I think it was me and Crawford High see we were trying to make it to your video that I'm currently right. Right, right you guys started and we were trying to hurry up and get out there cuz we were working off. Didn't get a chance to make it out there, but I know punk rock mellow was there I think gossip was even in the Gaza was it? Yeah, you're right Mela was I just did a survey little trivia question the other day on Instagram. I was like, who's this? Where's the cube in? This picture is a big screen shot of mellow was turn right here and a lot of people got it in like like yeah and oh, so now did how far would you say that that first album how far did it take you to travel overseas at all, you know, always a pretty much just all in the United States at the time. We didn't go overseas until I think our third dog, okay, which was laying in the cut. It was productive was mainly here in the United States. We did a bunch of grip grip of show glow Riders shows you the name it but we got offered to do Lollapalooza. Really? Yeah. I see your face when like that because you get on Lollapalooza you had to be hand chosen exact birth. Right and we were hi bro. And this was like the Midwest tour Lake of it was like out there in Chicago or something or so we got offered to do it, but the record label had to fund it off and you gotta take care of your own room and board, you know, they didn't want to do that. So at that point, we we knew that we were growing we were we have outgrown the label sort of speak. Our music was just take it. I was like, yeah like we're come on man. Like we're selling Burger. You got to keep up with like really not going to put it this could be our biggest turning point in our career as Lollapalooza tour lollapalooza's like me and reminds me of like Coachella Coachella. Yeah, right. But yeah, so there's where we ended up parting ways with hateful like maybe a few months later and then there's where we ended up signing with a The Mercury record as we we got, you know got a whole new management and we have to be JP. Remember djp Warren G and West Coast Def Jam. He's running that label for a minute and they offer warranty had Coolio on his management team is Manny Warren Clio South Central Cartel now South Central Cartel was on was on quality, but he had that Montell Jordan. So all these cats and then he you know, he started managing off then he ended up getting us a record deal and mercury in ninety-four and we did that album there as we drop a DJ well soon as he dropped Hey DJ I think took off I think I bought a bigger in overseas. Which brings me back to your question. Yeah in in Japan and London and I just remember doing interviews like it was blowing up like it was number one on the charts for like weeks. You know what I'm saying? First buckets Jodeci Boyz II Men like, you know, like we were killing a game where he's just not now going to Japan and going to Europe and being, you know Mexican kids from the neighborhood rolled off. I mean a lot of how did you feel about that knowing that like fuck I'm just out here wrapping a dealership that I love right and I'm out here, you know looking wrapping it and you know, I'm out here. Yeah, I'm Thanksgiving like, you know what I'm used to bring in my family. I remember that because that like, you know, it pulls you away from your family growing when you're touring but this is a you know, what I signed up for this is what I wanted to do is my passion. So being out there overseas, it would still just experiencing new places, you know granted you didn't like spend too much because it was boom in one night out the next maybe you get a couple of nights or a couple of days of chill afterwards or before but now when we went to Japan that was like a whole week so we went this is 94 we went out there. We did Tokyo and then we take one of them trains and then we go to like colbeh and then you'll go, I was just like boom boom boom, but it was it was a crazy experience man for sure not performing over there. What was the response? So if you don't know this or not, but wage Like Japan, they really man, they really embraced Latino culture and like just just the whole lowrider seen Chicano music everything about it. Like the funkster man. He did this. He's from Japan like the artist so he brought we went out there was like probably look straight up Gangster. Yeah, like cholos, like the man, you know, the dog is on everything, you know saying the wife beaters, whatever I thought they were to come like. Hey take off your glasses at home. She thought was like Hey, I really did rather true story. I was like man, this is crazy. And then I remember the Lowrider magazines. They you know, we open up I'm confused you open a magazine. Now you go this way. Right right. There's is this way the opposite way so you would you would read them this way and it was just It was a different experience, but they're lower them in st. Low rider seeing out there and everything else then they appreciated us and I remember when we toured we did this on a DJI was a huge. That's all they knew was Hey DJ. Okay, so we had to perform this and we had to perform a whole hour. Wow. And in that set we did. Hey TJ, maybe three times. No, we didn't have enough music like, you know, like they were like again again song writer in the back Hey DJ like they wanted to hear that you just see them like they didn't know the lyrics but you could just see him like, you know doing this it was it was a crew a trip man. I should his Dogma. Yeah so long, you know, okay me and I see we get booked to go to Europe. We're going to be up there ten days. They'll I was working on music here and I asked for how long is the flight because I I was like Ritchie Valens broaden wonderful other one of them much respect Ritchie Valens brother rest in peace, but I just did not want to fly. So hit 1300 fact that I am going. Yeah, so a smoking in the dog To yeah, dude, I would like I ain't going so he went he came back cuz all you fuckedupshit win, so they booked it to go to Japan another 10 days. How long it apply to tell me a fact that I ain't going right? I always thought that those opportunities come back around got you and they never did wrong, right, you know, and then we got to go to Canada Australia and you know, they pay double with it sometimes triple see how wish I knew then but I would watch people, Hey man took a trip and I was like how long how long is the flight over there? Come on, I'm like dude. I'm not going to go dude. I'm not going to go I fear of flight. Yes, bro. Yes, you know, I mean when you see the fucking Wings going off. Yeah, especially down a little like you said the little problem. I'm like going on those bro Sir Mix-A-Lot remember him. He never I remember it. Someone told me he never flew off like he just drove everywhere. Yeah, I think Say Candyman the same way. I'm not mistaken. Do it one time. We're flying back. I forgot where we were from and this was interpreted where it's going up and down it was side to side like like and I got so mad and I go off. So angry playing in the lane, downtown park was going to support about an hour bro, and I was like shit, you know, when you see the stewardess hanging on for their locker Iraq, everything's going to be okay. Yeah. I remember Bobby and that we we flew a plane in Hawaii one of those plot planes. We were going from like Oahu. We did a show a couple of shows out there to another Island to the main island home and we took one of those little small planes and the pilot was like, yeah, I want to fly the plane Bobby like I will let me see, you know, like I'm like you hire for starters like yeah, So boom. So we're just yeah mid-air bro way up there and his beautiful then he turns the lights off like the headlight the the lights and I'm like, it's pitch-black. I'm like, bro. Oh no way Jose. No, you got to turn those on on me. Like now that that ain't nothing fly. Yeah, so pun intended. So then we ended up, you know man to safety but it was it was a good experience but that's about the far as I went. Really. Yes. I didn't really care to go any but where else but now I look back and I miss all those great times because every time I see when he was like dude, he should have seen the pouring that I seen over them and the word the porn the Bourne, okay, whatever and seeing the poor young gets paid, of course, I mean, you know had my share of how long have you had your shirt saying my wife's wasn't so it was push on. Yeah, you're not she knows everything about her. You know, that that's that's so not but the group is like a look at you salivating over there, right? Yeah. I was coming down your mouth. Nah, bro. Come on, you know what it was like do the shows according to go to the hotel you would scream the hotel on stage stage right and the room number after party at home. So and so the Holiday Inn, whatever mean 200 whatever, you know, and then soon as you get there. Boom. Everybody's in the lobby. Of course after the party is the hotel lobby. Yep. Haha, and I would go to other people's rooms man like cuz I didn't want to you know, I got shit in mind, you know, my money in there is nobody, you know a thing I got to say about you guys. And I don't say this about everybody that I've interviewed every time we've done a show with you guys. Those shows have always been fucking hi bro, like really really high because I remember a couple of times she came out on opposite ends and you guys are just like a hype up the crowd, go fucking crazy. I remember and I shared his story before me and I see the only time we were gotten bold and that's a question. I want to ask if you guys have ever gotten off. We went to Atlanta We performed we got booed. Okay, we came back the next day to Sacramento and we performed with you guys in the motherfuker was a live, right? We blew them up. But you know what it was doing that time to home. He was trying to gain the attention of the Black Panther recognize. Right? Right and it wasn't happening right? You know, you think it was the oldest son. Of course it was right. It was not keep in mind when I did that I did that. I put my finger on a mixtape sure. I didn't think he was ever going to end up on the radio. Right? But so after when he saw it was taken off he was like man, I don't want to be recognized for that shit, right? He wanted a DJ quick second birth. Yeah, it's a groups. Yeah, but oh well, yeah, you know, hey, you know, but I mean, I remember going to Atlanta and not getting booed but they weren't like Thorns receptive to us. Like yeah. Yeah, you know like vibing, you know, and we were out there because obviously our song was new on the radio. So in exchange you do a promo for radio background, which is a show for free off. I'm sure you've been booed before I don't think really on the west coast but more more so Midwest like I remember going to Chicago show. What was the Detroit Detroit show? Okay, and we took the Detroit right? And I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry Chicago and Bobby had a Detroit jacket on his what it was. He had the D 4 d w t x okay over there and that's what the disciples out there, you know off the land Kings. So he shows up. He goes decides to go and he didn't know we didn't know who were like new Chicago we had been there and he goes and buy this big this big Jaguar the Big D on the back and forth. I guess we have got word that the way he wears his hat and Sunday afternoon video if you watched us on the afternoon video, it's like this. Yeah, and he's wrapping. Well, this is a this is a game like, you know, I'm saying I don't touch one. So we already have that, when we got there. We were already heard like, you know what I mean, but it was cool. We did the show nobody really but I rode just remember that the show that we performed at it was a gang of disciples their life mate. I'm not wearing a jacket there for one, but the ones who got booed were outcast. Really all the players play man when they dropped that players bought that album. Yeah, they were just they just came out that was the debut album and and Chicago Buddha and they was they were like Pac-Man like do what you doing. Nothing man. That is get through this but Bob which ATL boys but whatever but I was the first time I saw a new one really get booed like that. Well, I remember we did a show a Halloween show in Sacramento and then There's a funny story dude. The promoter comes up towards it goes a man. You know what I'm going to get a we were headlining. I'm going to let a group go on before you guys are here. Then you kind of knew that fucking good anyways, but we're going to let them alter before you guys. That was Jodeci. Hmm. They opened up for us. Like we didn't know who the fuck they were. They were just dropping the new single cuz they were pushing it and they showed up in town in the way we perform and to promote. I don't think he even fucking you who they brand new brand new. Yeah, nothing out. No, nothing else just pushing up promotional shit, right? He was like, yeah fukin good so we don't take off or whatever. So we did a couple of shows with them, but we didn't know who they own the hell they were at the time, right? Yeah did a couple of shows TLC. I'm sure you did a lot of sure. I remember there in Texas at Austin Texas. We were out I used in the last amount of years. They do after t l c o p p asking TLC Naughty by Nature and then us great show. I remember that. Damn, a lot of memories and that that's what's great about just being in the game. So young. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It really is. You know, what here's what I want to do Thursday. We can take a five-minute break and come back or we can just go on from here. It's up to you to keep it pushin. Okay. Let's give a question. I wanted to ask you a question. So I'm going to change the channel up a little bit or change the channel a little busy and I want to ask you about Bobby May rest in peace. When was it that you heard about his passing or him being in the hospital? You know if you can kind of suck. How did you get that phone call or somebody, you know message you text you or yeah. I got a I got a text actually it was a phone call. Bobby's cousin Richard was his blow me up and I was in a meeting as you know, with the radio station. It was and wash our hands calling me man. So I'm like I'm like we're talking like you don't want to like get on your phone when you're and you know, you're at work. And so finally I just I had to look and it was rich calling it blow me up and he was like, oh call me call me man support and support. He never had hardly ever hear from them. You know what I mean, you know, so for this for him the car has been real important. So Thursday excuse myself from the table and I went over to the restroom my thing I got on the phone and I said, what's up dude? He was robbed. He goes he goes you sit down right now man, I go now. I'm a knock off in the middle of medium. What's up, dude? I was wrong you. All right you good and it was like a man robbed because Bobby passed away man, Bobby passed away. And then I just remember immediately. I was a silent like I was just cuz I I knew. You know, Bobby had been going through some things for very very very long time. And that's what's crazy. Is that this world? We see only half I would say I want you see on social media and you really don't know a person until you know, the important, you know, they're you've been around them, you know, and so when he gave me that I really knew what it was. Or I had a hunch. Yeah, and I was just I was just I just needed to know the details now from this point on like where you know what I'm saying. That was my question like where? So then I hung up and then I remember I got a hold of his mom. So I gotta call his mom got a call his mom. So I ended up calling her and I said hey, this is Barbara. I'm sorry I go. I don't know what to say. I just got noon, you know, we're from this. Can you can you play I was in Chicago that can you confirm this you would say? Yes, and I says, all right. I'm going to book a plane flight number for us tomorrow and in the morning and then we'll we'll go see him in Vegas cuz he passed away. So so I did, you know went to the airport. And we ended up missing our flight for some reason. I was like, oh man this thing happening and then we ended up catching another one like a couple a couple hours later got on the flight and then we went to Vegas and we got off the plane and we went straight to the hospital and there's were we went until you know his office where he was in his hospital bed. Yeah. Yeah. And and what was it that the doctors when you know, you got spoke to them. Like what was it that he passed away or you know any details? I don't use that you want to put those details if you can if you can speak on some of them, you know, what was it that the doctor said happened to him? I didn't seem well the doctor was through the nurses what not when I cuz when I got there he was already laid up. I think some of his aunts were there already was just a few of us in their job. mother I think his brother was there Pete and his wife or his ex whether it was there as well and what they had said was he had he had been there already for like a good I think like a good week. Yeah so long they basically he he was cuz he didn't have any identification on them. Right? So basically a jondle they were tagging them as that when they found him. So yeah, so he was basically hooked up to a ventilator. Okay. Yeah, and did they have the servants choose out here or was it in Vegas or yeah, it was out here. Well, it was in Corcoran. Okay, and that's where Corcoran Hanford area. That's where I'm sorry Hanford Hanford home for Bobby was you know born and that's where they where he grew up up that way and so they ended up having the services there and transfer, you know over there and Faith nice man. I mean but most part. Yeah, you know, was he out there living in Vegas to Time. What was he was out there visiting or He we had did our last show in Fresno. Okay, and we did a show in Fresno and it was the car show and I remember he was going to drive down he had his girlfriend with the at the time and and their daughter and we had talked about it's Autumn. Hey, man, after this, you know, cuz I was always trying to get him to pass level up the spirits and get him to come by the crib, you know, come hang with my family. You know what I mean? I was just be in a good environment, right? You know what I'm saying? So the agreement was off. I'm going to fly back black by home and then you know, I guess he was going to go take a trip to the beach. Okay, you know what, I mean? And then he says on my way back he goes we're supposed to go to Vegas. He was all stop by your house. Okay, cool, man will chop it up. You know me watch the game will will barbecue just come by the path that way, you know, you can meet my son and and my daughter and my family and so he I never got that call. He ended up going straight to Vegas. And so I was like, huh, you know typical Bible like, you know, he ain't no God like he's like hit-or-miss took me. So I was like whatever he's with his family. He's good. So there's we're ended up going to Vegas and Everything else is just hearsay from that point because I I don't know both sides, but I do know that you know, they were at a hotel and not you know, he was with his family and I think they may have gotta get into an argument and I think what I hear that she ended up, you know, the girl his girlfriend end up going somewhere else. If not going home. Okay, that's what I heard. He ended up staying in Vegas. Yeah, man, it just kind of you know, it was just now there's what ended man like I say. I don't want to say too much. No, I understand. I understand off and I first of all want to thank you for sharing that cuz I think people had you know, we we interviewed Shiro here and I want to thank her for coming here. You know, I've been wanting you here for the longest. I'm thankful you came here and I think people wanted to hear your side of it or at least what you heard, you know, right so and I just want to if I can say something clearly are yes, and I don't normally address the negative because I focus on positive and that's what we should focus on at all times. But you know. People are I will say this and this will come out at a later time, you know, hopefully sooner than later. You'll hear this story. But I mean the relationship we share was a relationship like a marriage. Okay, we been through a lot very key. Very important thing here is we were put together, you know, those groups that are put together EPMD, you know, put together and assembled by somebody with a vision. So we already we kind of grew up in the same, you know neighborhood or while he was on the other side wasn't but we didn't grow up together. So we were bonded together. So we had to learn each other, you know what I mean? It was like home. He's like, hey, man, pool, We're gonna make it. You know how to hook. Both of us you and me boom wasn't like that. So I wasn't there part of his upbringing he wasn't there for mine. Okay, so I do know that he did have some mental issues going on or you know, just with his past. Yeah, everybody does you get older you start thinking about the past some of us, you know we go there like we all we all got those trials, you know, and and we think back on on our childhood, but I think it affected him the thousand more he got older. Yeah. Okay, so We did great in the studio. We did great on stage our chemistry. Like you said earlier dude, it was Unreal like boom. We could leave not perform for about two years five years come right back on stage and exactly what we did ten years later and pick up where we left off. Just like home used to you know, saying yes. But I think people get the misconception that that we were brothers. We were brothers to the sense to where yeah, like we made music together. Yeah, but we would do our music and we'd come home and we go our separate ways and I'll just leave it at that. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm getting oh, that's your at a mono, bro. You suck your best friend or that's your die-hard and blah blah blah and and as far as you know, now that he's gone as far as continuing on with the Legacy. Yes, which is his legacy off as well, which is my job to promote his legacy, which I do all if you follow us on social media, you'll see that yes, okay. And trust me like even to this day like I'm dropping new music right now. You know what? I mean? I'm having a tough decision to go under as odm. Not even lighter shade of brown audience loves odm or as lighter shade of brown because I'm 1/2, but because my partner rest in peace is not here or perform or record. So that's the dilemma. I'm having right now because if I do that, I don't want to hear all that bullshit. Right? But at the same token my thoughts that are close to me. They're like dude, I think that's what Bobby would want. He wouldn't have it any other way cuz if that was him, I'm he would be in the studio. Yeah, he was making records when we were when there was a point when we went on Hiatus home. I got one radio in two thousand from that point on up until 2015. Bobby was still doing music. You know what I'm saying? We had another Outlet he chose not to go off. He wanted to do the music thing. I said, well, we have an opportunity to to be on radio get multiple stations and then work our music that way come on. That's my foot in the door for us. Yeah off so that didn't work out. So what did he do? My man had to survive he had a he had a perform he had to do shows he was I heard all kinds of heads were going a stage with them. They were acting like they were odm rapid odms lyrics and I heard him I heard all about him. Whatever it I didn't care I did but I didn't cuz I wanted that's how I thought. Is bread. So I left them alone. I could have called them up. Hey, man, I need my my cut for this cuz I see lighter shade of brown here on the slider. I see you in here in Texas where I see you in here off. I didn't I let home and get his bread. You know what I'm saying? Because it was my choice to go do the radio thing. Yes. So here we go. We Circle back in 2015. And and it was like it was crazy and that cuz him and I when we when we start talking again, it's like it's like nothing like we sweep it under the rug right, you know, and it's like hey man, what's up? Hey, check this out man, you know, we have an opportunity to to do an album, whatever cuz see a lot of people we didn't touch upon was there was a point where in ninety-four which was our last time together at that time we split. Yeah. I started doing records producing. I produced Hey DJ on that last album. I did like dipping in my ride. I did like all these other singles if you want a Groove like a lot on those singles right there and I started getting more in a production. And I broke off we had a fall-out there's where I started meeting slow pain in the world rest in peace. I produce so pains first album a lot of y'all didn't know that look on the credits wage. You hear me on his album in the two butt cheeks, maybe. Oh gee that was done by me and the homie Carla. Okay, then I started branching out down studio and the Bachelor Pad y'all know about the brown royal kingpins man. I came up with that and I remember mr. Capone-E coming out knocked on my door component of all, what's up odm? Hey. Hey, what's up? Homie? A man. Remember Koch component telling me me. I want you to produce my record man, you know, you know, I just I don't want to walk, you know, cuz he was getting in trouble because I don't want to do that no more. I mean I want to do something good with my money. I want to do something positive, you know, whatever I said, come on in bro. Let's go. Let's work. Anybody. Wanted to come in my studio. I let him work. Okay, I was I still I would do shows here there with Bobby. And but that was mainly producing and then you know Shadows of the world and Too Deep, alt Frost baby Beach who was baby Beast then now baby bath, they would all slide through my studio. You know what I mean? And I was just sitting there cooking man making Making Tracks making beats and put on my own complication would complicate it was a complication cuz what took place and cuz I know distribution it cuz all I did was produce but that's another you know starts. I hit up the you know, Norwalk Records all day and they by Casey at home. He's come down with a Swami selling the CDs, but I just wanted I found a passion like you you have a passion for this, you know, that's what my passion was. So here comes d w t x two years later from from that Gap 94 2088. We put out another album. And we two albums under greenside records and that's the one where sunny days on and the one we did with whatever you want to talk to Tony Tony and great albums man. I produced the whole thing. If you can see inside me Bobby was back and we were back together. We were making music man who was on and cracking and then took two years later. That's where we just kind of did our thing man. I think we just kind of outgrew it. I don't know. I saw an outlet. Like I said radio and Thursday we had we had parted ways for another what sixteen years or something like that. I never Liberty you actually produced the song Grocery and easy for maybe they'll come right home. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah Four Corners sell us to let the in the girls. Yeah, and then so now so that people can understand your guys's relationship. You guys are still doing shows right off. We started doing shows. Yeah, like I said here they're bits and pieces. I remember but I was already back into radio. I was doing my thing. So I think like I said the point there's a plan from like maybe 004-0304 to like 2015 and I would hear show that you'd be here there what not people hate me. You won't be there you going to be there? Oh man, he was like this big thing to get us back together cuz you don't want to see your childhood group right split right? You know what I mean? So yeah, and then finally 2015 came and there's we met him that aren't they both show man and just kind of you know, we hugged it out and we were like, let's work man. Come on. Let's get these shows and I'm just giving let's give them what they want to pay to see them and we did we ended up killing that their videos actually on YouTube man told check it out. Now you said about twenty years ago you started radio, right? Okay, and you've been there ever since birth. Yeah, I got started right out mm. So I just had twenty years last year, you know, thank you and thirty years Brown and proud this year coming up November. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, man, that's awesome. So, you know what? How do you enjoy being on the air man? As far as being a DJ on the earth man? Just like off top. I love it. I love being on stage. I love being behind the mike in the studio. You know what? I mean? I love talking to the other putting smiles on people's faces. Like if they're listening to me because somebody you don't know what they're going through, you know, so if I can joke on that now considered a dad joke. I got dad jokes cuz I'm older now, but whatever. I still think I'm going to cook in the room with that joke, at least my kids do but now I do like I loved it. I loved being a part of it with another spectrum of my life that I you know, that could say. Hey man, I did twenty years of that still doing it and let me Pyar shoutouts 90.1 cases. I heard media and but it's all in dog. Same umbrella. I got an idea what it was like to be on the other side of the chair as an artist and now I get it because artists would come to me throughout the years a homie all you're not playing my F this fool man OD MPE gonna lay him back and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and I just go yo, like nah, man, you can't you don't even understand this side. I understand it cuz I was that dude. I was like you said I used to go to to Julio G and the beat man. Amen to her new al-mulla Iron Man said to me and never get played but because you didn't hear it you think cuz that's what we were used to pack lighter shade of brown. They got a name and then you just you just get the the song and dance. You know what I mean? Like I can't play it. I get it now. It's politics. That's what I don't like about it. But as far as just being the talent on air bro, I love it. I love the you know, everything about know what are you needing the Baker Boys here and I and I asked him year beginning in Okla has a man one book. You play my book and record log. And they were like you don't understand and I remember one time I forgot where I was because in Downey. Yeah, I want to say I think Acapulco Restaurant Firestone. Okay Down karaoke bar everybody to go there either a blue shot at one time. Yeah. It was maybe 20 minutes everybody in my opinion play my shitt a man. How come you know if I can laugh right to the Baker Boys? Yeah to the Baker Boys and I talked to them off welfare. Yeah a nice to me when I used to get fucking death threat like