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02:57 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

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"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

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03:58 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"But we have the food purchasing out to win when we got to the end of the third phase and while starting will be evaluating over the next several years but the first phase the reductions in chile was number one country per capita and consuming as we did this. We started ever mexico our tax level. So we talked twenty three percent reduction in. Ssd gorgeous higher for the poor in just the first year of this warning label no tax but the warning labels. It's not saying we should tab. We should in fact we should have everything. The chili didn't tax. Those same crowds was warning that the ideal policy a world bank has promoted. This re mutually reinforcing set of policy so if the uk adopted the warning label then they can use that as they're still trying to figure out how implement their ban on i'm food this would give them away ban all that food with warning labels the uk would put on and that marketing ban is the best we've seen 'specially the colder one now otherwise all refine as a few hours of trouble. Be it a couple country. Bunch of countries and with no real impact as we have all be voluntary agreements. all over the globe. They have shown in every case. Not even madder industry did very little. They said they would. So the regulation stop and that's kind of Where we stand today so. That's the best marketing ban. I hope the calvin wounded at least will adopt the warning label. And i hope that they can use it for the marketing ban will really help push this forward. We have several other countries that are pushing this right now so it you may not be the first next one to da but the point is that's shown us with real world impact. What can happen with the marketing and how you can use it in health in school help around and one of the really important things that you mentioned there noting that it's not like when we're talking these different types of policies. It's one or the other in fact. Probably the best impact like you said is we can see where all the evidences for many of these different types of policies using them in combination is likely to have the the greatest progression forward. If each of those individual policies is a good policy then stacking them is likely to make a bigger benefit. So is there any final message you to leave people with or anywhere on the internet. You'd like to direct their attention to follow up more on your work. Anything like that. Well obviously they confine me with him to a second. What i recommend more than any saying is that everybody here in all the doctors and practitioner or mode eating real food reducing as much of this highly processed food and beverages in diet of their themselves sending their clients and patients. That is really what we need to do for the world to move away. This epidemic of obese of all the nutrition of basically all the major heart disease issue and thirteen of the fifteen canton's the major risk factors of a saint obesity and diet issues so We truly need to shift our diet. We need to recommend are now..

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02:33 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"Created that they could use that. The van the products from schools. They couldn't be market soul bended anything consumed in the school. They used to ban marketing of those products in all media and they had something with the definitive with a clear label on it that the industry had to show they monitor implementation to have to have it on their package and they have to show the had so that truly led to norm changes children coming we did focus groups. That shocked us. After the first year we did some focus groups on low income lower middle income household with mothers of young children and the children have been coming home to the mothers and telling them not to buy these products with global on. You know they've learned about the from school and fell. It was like the beginning of a norm change in the group. You want to change eating preference young chill and krief young children in school preschoolers. Has it happened all the schools and that and then they could ban the marketing of those but they had a clear. Nutritional cutoff forward. Very easily monitored implement and they could implemented and ma in vermont mead if that industry view the differences as i noted earlier. The industry shifted so the canal putting a total marketing ban six. Am to ten. Pm was big message on other times. Other countries are putting in six. Am eleven twelve pm which is better but either way going from early morning to late evening truly has had an impact and were still evaluating that were still monitoring the marketing part and looking how attitude knowledge an all wave. And we're having come out with face three. We only have the phase one studies but that showed such a profound change in children's exposure to the media and kind of children attitudes also someone changing and then we go to the school impact preschool school age and It's quite profound and so we were now. Starting covert has the latest some of our evaluation stuff for the final phase..

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"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

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05:42 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"On the front of the package. Along that says contains non-neutrals contains these items so and the same. Were doing caffeine. Because we don't want children consuming beverages with caffeine. So we're learning and that's one way to deal with that now let's move to sodium. Sodium is a very powerful off issue needed some extent but were overeating across at low. A great extent the salt from a sodium. Salt tool potassium sulk. You get a healthier salt. you do some of that sodium you get rid of it completely and processed packaged foods because they know all the ways itself has helped him and they could change it but if you get more protection it reduces risks of many of the diseases related with sodium and both it's in and of itself both because it lowers changes sodium potassium racia-. So what we know is reformulation around. Sodium can be helpful and we'd love to see it from a whole globe a certain extent making sure everybody has some sodium by cutting out that excess Similar way When we go to fat it's very mixed Some saturated fats healthy and many are not In the low middle income world were saying much more homework and the which is from the red palm oil trees and other which is very unhealthy. It's the most saturated fat out there in the most and yeltsin And we would like to get rid of that The problem is we don't know why we can't quite ban that product and we do it through high saturated fat. We haven't figured her do. And but we know that a warning label that warns against these high excessive loops will shift people toward healthier food and it will push reformulation so chilly. Cut the amount of sodium even sausages. Nothing but no difference. In purchasing they just purchased a healthier one but So we can do it. We actually can do some kind of healthy reform relations and we can have some. that are problematic. We don't know.

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"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

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05:07 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"And again really collect data to do a white in depth that were able to do where we and you'll collect difference in nutrient composition in fame beverages and link it with daily food purchases so that we can see what's happening. Though we know about taxation as the poor more likely to be fat more likely be untreated. Diabetes untreated hek retention. Untreated cancer and. They're benefited the most by attacks. They are reduction is greater than what they're doing. So from a health point of view of aggressive. And that's very important understand. Ross the world. A poor are least treated a most unhealthy. And that's a very big issue. Not completed the case in some parts of africa and south asia but the case in east and southeast asia the case and others that but it's changing everywhere in the world. Soon within a decade poor will be the fattest in the lease tells tennessee at every country in the world right now if only the high and the the earlier that developed countries yet that disparity based on socio economics is so and so profound guess with something like taxation sometimes. This kind of counter argument is given that. Oh it it's not gonna work. It's going to make people pay more money that they don't have but as you've outlined it seems that in those groups you actually get the greatest degree of change perhaps in those dietary changes and the also the group that would benefit the most And it kind of reminded me of something. I discussed with professor martin cower her on the podcast before where he made the point. That people in those low socio economic groups actually make really rational food choices to despite what people may think and they're making it based on cost effectiveness shelf-life and so on so they're being really rational with what they do so it would make sense then that yet paul would actually work in order to to to make these official changes and and going back to that common. Historically poor always made the decision so if you went back to the nineteen sixties in my country showed one paper. Lena journal medicine that then the rich were all getting the heart disease and were fat. Por were not in my country. They're eating a lot of being fruits and vegetables. And rick were having their butter and their high fat meats and other things and it reversed over time as the food supply created cheap fluke..

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05:56 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"And then knock on influences say economically. What we've learned is that first of all with obesity. You don't die. You get billeted disabled. But he don't die unlike cancer so but cost for obesity star with what we call present. He has which is being in a job but being less productive and we've seen and studies and factories and in service sectors twenty five percent reductions productivity sometimes up to thirty thirty five depending on the job from being overweight and obese so that obesity truly affects our productivity and waste we understand secondly but with but does since studies that have looked at it second lanes were more likely to get sick. More likely get disabled more likely to retire early. More likely. the happy go into retirement homes because we're not able to have the saints movement ability and songs so that transition has affected us economically in profound ways. A proportion of the gym p Is very from country to country. But it's huge in the west. It's truly impacting us. Ways that we ignore too often That's why most big global company have are trying to do something improve this the status of their workers. You won't find it with governments as much as you'll find it within these companies. Because they see the costs they see their health insurance bills going way up. All the attention be paid on by. We are not gonna get the bulk of the population to run for. Mild offset a coke. We're not gonna get them offset all the junk they highly up the processed foods they consume by exercise a subset. Will you'll have a five percent or eight percent of your populate nets truly healthy as healthy lifestyle in every way we do a bulk of our population so given that and given that there needs to be a change in the average diet within these populations it seems clear that there's some policies that could be effective here and this is where much of your work comes in of looking what's effective and i'm sure later we'll maybe discuss some of the barriers to that from the standpoint. Maybe we can take some of those typical types of policies and maybe look and just to give people an idea of what actual evidence do. We have here so maybe the first place to start one. That tends to be contentious because on top russian and there are different forms of that type of policy but in terms of purely evidence that we have in this area. What would you say the view right now of what we know about policies are based on taxation and how they have have worked. What type of effectiveness. They may have played. We've had.

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04:42 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"They're collecting and the sophistication. Were getting a modern technologies. But no matter. What is the marketing as bennett. Critical piece of of changing us. But it's not the only piece the creation of ways to make everything they want to sell us on the present vending machines and school walls. Every place you move little getting into every kind of shop that you can think of. It's a very sophisticated set of techniques for disturbing and making us see the food billboards wherever we look. Turn on your television or anything or just look in your smartphone and you go into something like a game. They'll place the products in front of you. Kids gains full of their products. Kids tv as full of it. Except by the helvin stations like nickelodeon that ban it but most children katie stations. Don't the marketing and the control of our what we eat has become more and more as countries around the world increased their wasting from home consumption so huge seven what africa and asia are eating. Today they have also found ways to get into that sector and control. So i think what you're saying is that can tip of the iceberg. If we're truly understand all the ways that they market in control the people would be shocked if we could measure how much they were exposed to. This and how impactful is on them. Because they in that. You very sophisticated. Yeah this is that anyone is really making completely free. Will decisions over. How they eat is absurd once you start right back. The food industry wants thank tough. It's our demand free will and then they've pushed for that they pushed for the fact that everybody's free to pick what they want but we're not free we bend and we will continue to be dictated by them and tell we control their marketing and tell wade label all their unhealthy foods with a warning label. Things like we found really impactful. While your traffic lights has shown any much impact on reformulation and none on purchasing changes. We've seen huge changes with this warning labels just like with cigarettes that chile now a whole bunch of other countries israel mexico brazil peru uruguay all are adopting and countries in asia and africa and africa are proposing it right now. I mean obviously a lot of your work has been involved with populations in china and you've published a law that which is being incredibly informative and i think one of the big things that becomes obvious looking at the nutrition transition there. Is that the essentially the playbook that some of the the corporations are using is one. They've already used elsewhere. And so that would give further evidence set. They know what they're doing and they know it's successful because they can just roll out in near is even more insidious china they found ways to get the government involved. They've found ways to you key. Parts of the government the be in central committee and others. Maybe have a share in their company need They bought off key. Groups are involved in advising the government with money they. They're the playbook has been better. Played in china than any of our comfort and government. Policy has been around their mantra. We have ballroom dancing in minimal. Fiscal electric beans is black. Deputy we have nothing dealing with creating healthier food supplies in any way and we won't it very difficult because of the controls of food industry who keep people in china. I'm very keen to talk about some implications for policy but maybe just before getting that with this typical nutrition transition that takes place and no matter what country we're looking at. There are health impacts on overall population health. But there's also therefore knock on effects on other things like the economy can you maybe just give a brief overview of why this nutrition transition is so problematic are those impacts on say population wide health..

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03:36 min | 4 months ago

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"Now as the case and what this means is a hugger. Mechanisms are being thrown off our whole way of eating and controlling. it has been thrown up all these extra meals. So we're just eating very austin. Yeah and i think one of the main implications that kind of became clear. The more i looked into your work is that sometimes. It's easy for people to -ssume that well. If there's these changes in our preferences for different foods what people buy it simply supply and demand and people are choosing to eat this way but really. That's maybe a very reductionist way to view it that those choices are being manipulated in some way people aren't aware of. Can you speak to that. The people who have been exploring very few countries are really addressing but the whole marketing of food across the life cycle and across different subpopulations has become so sophisticated. And it really began in the seventies or shane in a big way. sugary beverages. You still see it for beers and many other things. But increasingly for many categories of foods and marketing of snacking was one of those elements And they're creating more and more the food products that are ready to eat ready to heat so that it's very convenient and people are don't wanna coke and work more than they can they you know for whatever reason These has become very important to them and so cooking has gone down. We across the world we. Did you studies in the sixties and seventies and all the countries where these were done at that point. People were spending two hours who preparation in the us today. Twenty seven minutes day. I bet it's not so different than the average brit and others a little bit of buying food. But now of course i will change in. Who just be taking it online for a subset of population but all that aside it truly was a piece of this huge set of changes so the marketing food has become so sophisticated special games for children sneaking things through tv and other things and then in a country like chile were. We had a very total ban. Child marketing they just shifted. The shows two children where children watch adult shows. So the children's exposure when way down With child ban any food if they put a red warning label on that was high in the unhealthy foods and was the ultra process worse to the ultra processed foods so they just shifted so then we have to put a total ban in marketing from six am to ten pm with big messages on any marketing of these unhealthy foods after but that's one countries experience and it will be repeated. The uk is going to be soon assuming marketing trolls. It's not clear if it will just focus on children and seems to be the case. If so the same thing will happen there. The happened to chile where just finding into three as very uses marking very sophisticated ways..

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04:14 min | 4 months ago

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"Particularly the seventies later way led the way getting fatter earlier but where australians jerry cans russians middle easterners all caught up today you know. They're a good hunk of the countries of western europe eastern europe north africa. The middle east south africa suvs a country south africa a latin america. I'll have obesity and overweight levels over fifty sixty percent so this is the transition in. it's still going on. Countries in the third world started later but now the food industry has shifted attention of both global food sector and companies that were created to match same technologies internal decian these country app and pushing and the same foods that led the way in our countries and changed our diets to so much of what we call the processed food that includes not only all these junk food and beverages but fast food and so many other things like sausages and other things that are also hyper palatable many ways so if now exploded in asia. Africa and latin america fame consumption Shifted the as the big growth sector and The rest of africa. So you're saying don't have a single country's world today with less than twenty percent overweight obesity. We're really changing. And it's not for the good right now. The food factor is ruling..

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05:43 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"First of all. Welcome to the podcast professor. Pumpkin adds very much a pleasure to have you. Thank you bye pleasure. i think. Probably the best place star and i. I don't think i could have started anywhere else apart. From the opening up of the discussion around the concept of the nutrition transition. Which i think is something that obviously you were at the forefront of and a lot of your writing and work has led me to get more interested in seeing not only how that has played out over the years but we'll have implications for the future. Maybe people listening who are unfamiliar with the concept. What is the way you attend to introduce that to people and explain that concept. Well the simplest way to do this is the think about the way we eat. Drink and move in. How it's changed from the paleolithic kind to the present and how different places in the world have gone through the stages of eating drinking and moving berry differently from the initial stages where everybody was doing berry. Energy intense for the diet was truly very and biology of all we. At that point we had to find a way we needed to drink water every day. If you don't think water for two or three days after that you'll die but on the other hand what we eat could be done less frequently. Anybody in the uk could for example nadi for a month and survive. But if you don't drink wire for several days you'll die. So we developed a disconnect between how we eat and how we drink and trump's the biology very early on at the same time we had a sweet person we needed to have fruits berries and other sweet foods for nutrients and we developed the bitter preference not to eat the bitter food which tended to be the poisonous items that you would find and so you can think of that and you can also think of the fact preference the fact that if you found in animal you've found a fish you you wanted to eat things that were fatty because they provided much more energy and healthier fat stores then. We moved into a stage where we started to cultivate. We started to move into having agriculture and became more sedentary slightly..

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03:26 min | 4 months ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Sigma Nutrition Radio ?

"Blue you are very welcome to signal radio episode league podcast and as always on toast them very welcome back or go into the podcast. Is i find listening. We have a real treat for you today. This is a discussion that. I'm not only delighted to be able to bring to you but was one that was really a true honor for me.

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"barry popkin" Discussed on The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

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02:23 min | 2 years ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

"I'm not sure i believe that this is really happening. It sure would have happened. Faster of the obama. Administration had come in in two thousand eight and said here's an issue. We you want to resolve this by two thousand twelve or two thousand fifteen would have been resolved by now. That hasn't happened it. Hasn't you know in the seventies. We're talking. We're talking forty forty years ago. In the late sixties early seventies actually talking close to fifty years ago. People were saying we have to stop marketing junk food to children this. This is really bad. We are teaching young children. That soda is a cool thing to drink even before they can talk for their even marginally able to understand stand. What's coming at them. We're teaching them so to sweden. Jews brek sweetened breakfast cereal cookies. These are the things that make life worth living right fifty years ago. There was noise being made about that the federal trade commission which was on the verge of doing something about it was effectively silenced. Congress was effectively bought off. No one even raises the issue atmore. You can't even get the national government to talk doc about this stuff so you're relying on things like soda taxes which are better than nothing but not much yeah was interesting barry popkin who i know you know very well. He said to me that in chile where they implemented a sweeping policy change around food including soda tax of eighteen percent right and in great labeling labeling including eliminating marketing to kids right <hes> through any media and also on the cereal boxes so tony the tiger is dead right. He said shockingly when they analyze the impact of these policies that the marketing restrictions were four times effective as soda tax. I would imagine in that and in this country i think mayor nestle wrote an article. I think newland journal years ago about food marketing kids and said i think we're one of the only countries other than syria korea that doesn't restrict food marketing to kids in some way. I don't know maybe in some way and we do restricted in some way but again. These are to a large part. It's voluntary like the industry it said well. Don't worry about it. Will we won't market junk to kids which was a total lie. They took one sliver of their marketing budget and moved it somewhere else so they can say oh. Oh years this saturday mornings..

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"barry popkin" Discussed on The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

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03:16 min | 2 years ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

"It's not what you're putting on the table. It's not the Celtics. You're putting on your food when you're cooking because of that because it's already in the food when you purchase it. You don't have the choice of having a lower sodium diet because the vast majority of foods already has it in their if industry, however, lowers amount of sodium in processed and packages foods, then you do have the choice, the choices. Back in the hands of the consumer. Now, they can add it at the table if they want they can add it to taste or they can choose not to add it all, but at least it's choice that the consumer has. So when we start thinking about how to change in environmental large. You just want to think about what's out there in the food's already. And how can we change those? So what people grab for is going to be a healthier choice to begin with. One of the things that we don't have control over is the way we're inundated with marketing. I think there were as your report came out from the Rudd center few weeks ago showing that the food industry targets poor minorities with advertising television advertising specifically, and there was like eleven billion dollars in the average kid sees camera more as a day, and that doesn't count all the stealth marketing social media American auto. Everybody's drinking Coca Cola onstage. All the all the celebrities all the invisible marketing that is a lot of effort to sort of shift behavior when you're getting inundated with that much marketing and their countries like Chile that literally have killed Tony the tiger. Just no, there's no more cartoon characters on kids, cereals, there's warning labels on the front of packages. And I know you've sort of looked into this whole strategy. I think what I I was shocked when I talked to Barry Popkin who was involved in this chilly effort to change the policies run attrition. He said the biggest effect on reducing consumption wasn't the soda tax. It was the food marketing changes. What can you tell us about how we need to think about that? And what the obstacles are because it seems so self evident. I mean, we're one of the few countries in the world that allows unregulated food marketing to kids, right? Yeah. It's marketings tough I mean, just to. to absolutely acknowledge what you're saying and marketing is done because it does change the way people purchase products. That's what they understand to be and in in public health. Word a distinct disadvantage because our budgets are nothing like the jewel. My back pocket now public. No. But what we can do is work with communities to really help them understand what the best choices can be what the best opportunities are and then to create incentives and opportunities for them to be able to exercise those choices which is something that we do throughout the city overall. But in particular, and some of those communities where they have the greatest challenges with this beautiful, you could share with us because you working in Harlem, and in terms of advocacy program round things, you're on the ground. Your your gut your fingers dirty. There's dirt on your fingernails. And you see what's happening. What are the challenge in this community to comedians want to solve this problem? Do they understand that that they're the victims of this food injustice, which seems like invisible sort of like fish, swimming around and polluted water? They don't assign. No, they're swimming in polluted water until they get sick and die. How how do you dress that with them? Yeah..

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"barry popkin" Discussed on Freakonomics

Freakonomics

03:04 min | 2 years ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on Freakonomics

"In addition to Texas. We'll so this is really interesting. This is new research coming out of Chile. They put a giant black octagon like a stop sign on foods like soda that have too much sugar. Too many calories do any saturated fats foods with too much, sodium foods can have multiple of these octagon labels. And then what they do say foods with these octagon labels on them. You can't have them in schools. They can't advertise on TV when kids are watching the compassi to with characters and no more. Tony the tiger. This started a year ago? The initial data is just being analyzed. And Barry Popkin who has a nutritionist economist researching this says, this is the only thing that is actually going to reduce obesity. He thinks so it's going to take a couple of years, but from the data he's saying now is not just slowing the growth it's gonna reduce because it's changing the norms. And what do researchers think is the mechanism by which the warning or the whatever no go sign is maybe more effective than taxes. Well, it really does as an icky. Just said it changes the norms at changes discussions around food at prevents the foods from being sold in schools at prudence advertising to children. You don't have these characters and kids are actually they did some focus groups kids are actually saying to their parents don't buy the foods with the warning labels and one girl he quoted to us said to her mom, I want you to buy me salad as a snack. Instead what kids are they say these days to lay in kooks? But it's where you trust any kid that ever asked for sell it. I'm just saying. It's working. So well that other countries are queuing up to do this, Canada, Israel, Peru cell and the set of companies are so upset about it that they are trying to finagle into our international trade agreements that companies aren't allowed to use these kinds of labels. If they want to be in the agreement, so you can tell it's working by how hard the companies are fighting my dilemma is that like soda. Yeah. I do I'm sorry. It's designed for you to like it. I think this is true. I think really is cold coke, especially a Mexican coke with sugar. That's out of your fridge. That's ice-cold when you have a hangover, and you crack that sucker open, and you guzzle that till you can't Braise. I'm with it. Sorry. So my question is how much of obesity is what we drink and not what we chew and what a soda have to do with a big double cheeseburger at nine AM. So this is also a really interesting and complicated question because it's obesity, and nobody is quite figured out. How it all works? But it is clear all the studies that aren't funded by industry all the studies have shown that the more population drinks sweetened beverages like soda, the heavier. They are the higher the BMI. The studies also show that the more soda population drinks, the more, diabetes and heart disease. And there is actually really interesting reason for that when we drink sweetened beverages. We don't get full..

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"barry popkin" Discussed on The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

04:37 min | 2 years ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

"I think we should ban it. So I'm always cautious about bands. So I think bands are well intended, but as I said as with any public health campaign, but particularly with bands there unintended consequences. So you have to really think like what? You know, if you ban the unhealthy food products, for instance, you know, what comes in to fill that space. Yeah. It's interesting. You know? There's an issue in Chile which you've probably heard about which is being said reform to chatted about on the podcast before. And I talked to Barry Popkin who was one of the architects of the reforms in Mexico and chillier on food policy because they're so disproportionate affected by the obesity diabetes. And what he said was they got a fair bit of funding to look at the impact of the change these policies and one of the policies was eliminated. Any character cartoons from kids marketing or any products? Right, so cereal boxes can't have superheroes. Or anybody else on there? They eliminate any advertising in movies Rindt radio. Tv I think even online for kids between six AM and ten PM and that the even put an eighty percents soda tax, but was more impactful than all the other policies was eliminating the marketing like four fold bigger impact, which was. Shocking to me and spoke to the fact that we have to find a way to deal with this. We are the only westernisers civilized countries or developed countries that allow unrestricted food marketing to kids now because it was the first amendment right to speech corporations are people going to the citizens United. They should be able to say whatever they want to say. And yet we do regulate things around children differently. And I think when it comes to children, and particularly given that forty percent of kids are overweight now that if a kid's a teenager who's obese or overweight, the their life expectancies thirteen years less than someone who's not at that age, these are really serious issues. And so so I think we have to figure out how do we get the political will to do this? How do we get the data show? This impact other countries are innovating around the. So if you were in charge, I was just going to say. I think that's absolutely true. And it's exciting that's come out of those other countries in this country. I think we've focused on tobacco and alcohol, which I think everyone can agree are kind of unambiguously not good for kids exposed to or early introduction to or initiation with it gets a little tricky in the food landscape because becomes a question of what is healthy. What is unhealthy, and how do you define that actually think marketing for healthy foods could be a beneficial thing? I mean, you know, as you mentioned, you know, put a cartoon character. They don't any marketing for food just the unhealthy stuff. How do you define healthy? And I probably agree on how to come up with. And this is what the pushback from the sugar sweetened beverage injury. And one of the tricky nuances and caveats has been tried and different municipalities. Right. So, you know, certainly sugared sodas, right but diet sodas fall under that umbrella Bellevue thinks juices, did you string stew flavored waters? Right. So so comes a sticky issue. Just got back from Abu Dhabi, and it's an interesting. It's a benevolent leadership there, which is autocratic. They can make it easy quick decisions. And they're not beholding the food industry 'cause there's no taxation the country. They get no revenue from the food industry. They really don't have investments in the food industry. There's no way for them to influence policy, and they had this massive obesity diabetes epidemic. And they put in a hundred percent tax on energy drinks fifty percent tax on soda and one of the products was red bull that was impacted and the the finance minister from Austria. He said, we're I vols. Or something called the guy who was in the government said, hey, what's going on? We're seeing a seventy percent reduction in consumption of this. And we're gonna have to all these people where we made the policy were. Sorry. That's how it's going and the pushback from the food industry is quite strong, and no doubt. It would be. I mean cuts directly into their profits. And this is by the way, this government official calling ocean. Government officials saying your policies are hurting our companies, which is not in the public health interest. Right..

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"barry popkin" Discussed on The Pulse

The Pulse

02:07 min | 3 years ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on The Pulse

"How is the country dealing with this onslaught of of diabetes it's expensive to trait it's very expensive it's terribly expensive right now what they're finding is that low income indians beginning to get overweight no beef and that this is really hitting them and they're just not being treated and the government has been very slow to react they have in the last year change the tax system and they are taxing package food and they'd put a next at twelve percent tax on carbonated sugary beverages so that's step one but they need to do a lot more and they're only beginning to talk about it in the health side the rest of the government hasn't touched it so it sounds like there could be lots and lots of people in india who don't know that they have diabetes right right in india i would suspect that probably one or two percent of low income indians know that they have diabetes but have it and we see a lot of deaths from it starting to be reported but know that the government is not yet a really going after this that sounds overwhelming it is overwhelming because you've got one point three billion people in that country and it's growing and it will soon become the largest country in the world and you've got half to two thirds of them have no access or minimal access to health care and don't have the funds and the government doesn't have the money really to treat everybody for with insulin and so forth and to keep them healthy so we are at a point where india's on a collision course with its noncommunicable diseases particularly diabetes barry popkin is a nutrition professor at the university of north carolina he is with their school of global public health.

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"barry popkin" Discussed on The Pulse

The Pulse

01:51 min | 3 years ago

"barry popkin" Discussed on The Pulse

"It's just interesting to have this disease that's like an invisible disability where i look normal from the outside and i wouldn't want to not look normal from the outside i mean no one stares at me 'cause i've got diabetes but that means that they don't understand how hard it is one thing that's really stood out to me through the course of this conversation is how much we have in common and it's it's really interesting to hear someone else say things that i have nearly in the exact same words thought myself yes i believe so we are a lot alike which i thought that we were very different is far as tight one in type two diabetes that's kisha brooker and catherine price talking about living with diabetes katia has type two and catherine type one within thirty million people in the us deal with this kind of thing it's an epidemic that's sweeping the country changing lives and our healthcare system but other countries have higher numbers yet india has been called the diabetes capital of the world more than sixty million people there have this illness that's the highest rate globally barry popkin is one of the researchers trying to figure out what's causing this diabetes explosion he's an attrition professor at the university of north carolina he works at their school of global public health berry says that people of indian descent are genetically predisposed to developing type two diabetes which is related to body fat with specially fat around the heart and deliver what we call visceral fat that fat around your heart and liver doesn't necessarily show up on the scale sometimes we call this skinny fat or normal weight obesity or.

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