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Lawrence Okolie joins Barry Jones & Gary Logan

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58:27 min | 9 months ago

Lawrence Okolie joins Barry Jones & Gary Logan

"If not useful spicy listen to toad. SOPA cost hello. And welcome to this week's ring saw toe to toe the sky's sports box podcast. I'm Barry Jones and this week. I'm joined by former British title Challenger now respected trainer Gary Logan I su- gary and the cruiserweight European champion Lawrence O.. Coney Kony Lawrence harder for me. Was the day being so far. No work and then coming in to quote Well so just before we have to say. Lawrence is being Golden Gary All day both certain topics if just for the next four minutes if you can stop that task maneuver around. He's like my favorite fire now. John just rose rosacea Rhody thought. Let's get onto. We'll talk ambitions you have of course you know. Hopefully the vast ski is going to be next for. The belts is being reported Chicago Masters twenty-eight holders that time and venue sit you. Yes as good Afoa like I'm ready in training camp This would probably be the longest campout be given you know eleven twelve weeks. Usually you know seven or wherever saw oh you know are making a comfortable being physically strong acclimatize inefficient another country was because I look forward to it. If is that day but was stone wounded negotiation. But you know the world title is the next and this was gonNA happen. Is that a is this opponent you be tidied. been watching Gretzky. It's all it's not about a mall since You know the fight was ordered up started watching warm beforehand. I'd watch that much of him. But you know I've gone back. I've watched him when he was twenty seven and he's physical prime. You know and seeing how he competed because obviously now who challenged again. I'm she'll come of fire and EMBIID So I wanna see what he's like he's best. I've watched a lot of Broken down but you know you never know until you actually get into some really going to be like apar- over awful good I can't turn pro two thousand and eight thousand in a long career. He I think he won the tall bef- two thousand fifteen. So before before. You know you will need you still punch of punch and innovest back then but do you think the experience with both well for him. Would you think maybe the Korea the longevity of the career. Maybe he's the it's not GonNa hurt and he's got a he's not a lot. June time bunkers world champion and before we just solely prong. Oh you mean he's going to be different. Tastes doubt you know going over to CHICAGO OF RABID Polish contingent. But if anybody that's called the mental makeup to do it I would. I would say it's going to be a man here. He presents a different style. Yeah good good south ways not on those or quit gangrene is a good south. Well he's only six foot. Six fights fights a bit shorter. Yeah which I was going to say. Use that isn't it. Yeah so this is something that you go get used to being sick for five. Don't be in on the top end of that scale. Of course you're always used to punch it all but it is difficult to get your distance and and the rain's rights are not all on our. I actually quite enjoy softball. I genuinely enjoy you know sparring and preparing preparing for softballs. Because are they presenting a different angle from my right hand which is Which I enjoy? I've been watching rock. I see that you know he dips. He keeps it low when he brings in with foster jobs in. You know he's up for Tara and stuff but I just don't go in from you know in this one and I'm GonNa be trying to throw different angles Hand Kinda with the fact that he should dip I'll try from now to the facts eventual for city-state. Right hands. You can slip in Canada and stuff like that We look forward to a follow up. You say you'll six for a new kind of changing the angles and change in the high. It works well against seventy six two six three but I'm so much toilet on almost long. Long reach yeah I'll have the region just Able to Kinda keep them keeping my based specialist. He's not really like a comfort. What brought up a good point because even though you're toll your wingspan this huge is that you have to reach? You can use that to get advantage. I was GONNA say about and the new details about going away from home. There was an tall. Shot is a massive risk fighters can freeze here. But you've AH. I don't want old-fashioned career but you've got a real steep learning curve. No boxing for titles. What was it six five dollars? Yeah and it's been it's been a British Commonwealth European picking up a obviously an international on the way as well continental title. Do you think that's going to sink. Jink Pay Jews initials MESA TIME To get to this point one this opponent. I thought there's oversee some you know it would be too early for me at this current stage. I can believe I can be anyone you have to be as well this a hard fight bus while not believe I will win on you know experiences I have gone for Put headline shows before a big crowds. Had the pressure. A Boston and champion was undefeated. Fires have been not one not multi. I'll be in quite a few undefeated fires on so for me Boston. Abroad Boston. Someone's hometown I don't really pay attention to them quite right like I don't WanNa say way by just totally feel anything when I'm on my way to the ring and stuff I'm just very just not What is by? I just feel very calm and comfortable and just walk INS. I don't believe so it wasn't just zone Dan. I don't even come like overly focused Komo dot. I'm just going for a walk in the park. Your just you see. I'm just very just chilled. Obviously a Pfizer is a different thing. But I don't feel nervous. Just this is why I have to let me get done John Me and so I do. I do look forward to it because I feel like this one. There's one might be even more recognition. You know we're good British when the end Wednesday as a Welsh haven't been WHO's only legitimate. He lost his does it so getting richer dot com magnitude as much as I form an awful will get a little bit of respect. He wanted a ones. Ah Over seas by a I mean obviously GLIVEC is coming off a bad loss against British. Not Bad but he was winning that fight he was controlling. and that's what braced I. That's why British put Air Boeing. Because he was getting frustrated with the way Lawrence's approach in a fight. It's red isn't it for five because no boxes as we know in the news. Well we're sensitive souls and we're very superstitious and we love things our own way. We can throw up. Altos out the problem. But you don't seem seen that way if you take the fight to almost blase if you like about this title fight and you've got to go away from home and a lot of people would maybe not fancied up you. You seem to almost be happy and that is gonNA. That's possibly go that way. Yeah but I mean for me. I think I wouldn't be foods in an old with you. Know the both Donate this file Awadallah bunks this place or this personal Very much I believe we win the fight so as long as I. I believe that would fall into place slot so levers hair all in another country. I watched this guy and I believe I will be so. Aw aware is just as long as I get the victory and also the cruiser was. It was a time and you got him on the New Orleans. The criminal division was uh-huh overlooked because the middle super middleweight. So I think you're really good heavyweight or we rely heavyweight and there was no interest in the cruiserweight division when it first came on the scene calls deleo and dig as Resp- Marvin fighters as good as all these guys give Lee Roy Murphy. All these guys laws could really only started getting excited when probably when we started talking to David as in the end zone macaroni. GOP straight straight. Do it was the world boxing. Supersede that really set it on fire but he was a Michael Huggins. Juvenilia people can give Jones and and there was some real. Yes yes it was really fart jokes. The golden era of the heavyweights was the seventies. For sure. They will also know your your wait. Wait with child and he could punch guys. And and that's what the cruiserweight division it's sort of like the old fashioned heavy division but obviously you you excited. Because there's been a transitional period where it's obviously hooks moved up again and moved out of the way and now you're in real division with young is coming through yourself yourself and also a few of the staff edge steadfast champion still there. Don't think top of the tree. Everything's about timing on upcoming a a good time. You know I've got my sprint quite quickly. took time with some of the Heavyweight champions are still are still. Oh good incredible. But it's the point West. Does you INVICTA and lot hunger the spirit. That's the kind of criminals pace. I don't know I guess Burns. You know what I mean skimming stuff but you know only to find out how you get in there and have a goal unless there's a nice refreshing to fund to be not just 'cause you hear the last week and and no east at his level domestic level belittle take the risks of undefeated fighter after defeat if I didn't no old fighters like me and got criticized modified where they looking for the easiest route to the to the quickest success and that's understandable. But you know it's like Kalita net dot offerings you could if you speak to Eddie management etc.. A Lotta Times. They tried to pull back. Maybe wait one or two before the British. Why not before this I got this? Let me in I'M GONNA handle it so I that's helped me in the amateurs to get to the Olympics taste fights to also you know win the south of one now with today. Say God within the next few months I'm fifteen and all of bin. Kamal British unified European and world champion and sixteen knows maybe another unification so it's It's because of the steps to take the risk dominant to take a pass now kind of allows me to be his position. Ever know what you can in a chief for risk if you take easy road then you just be that fire that tried to navigate. I mean everybody notable cracks me up one guy one time you know Gerry's about fighting right fights and I'm not even in for anybody. I got fight someone. I you go that way you know if you can find but but the problem is you can get to. We'll talk fights now here for paying the system. Yeah Yeah and and I think that the fact that people that Lawrence and a few of this not just on your own. We'll we'll want to test themselves to get there. We'll saw help the the health of the spoiled. Because then it means that the best you've learned Gerard rather than played the system to get the ranking to get to the top. You picked up the Continental Derby continental talk which give big rankin but obviously beaten your European being champion and British champion and the old fashioned way. Trust me you'll fashion reeves on British European. And now hopefully we'll talk with. Oh you know speaking British the British crew religion. It doesn't as well and I'm enjoying watching. I'm What I was just hunting over? You know what I mean. I looked and I said that it's GonNa be exciting in common years. Obviously I'm going to be on top of it. I May that was kind of oversee delivered. Not by good to see people like Richard Lost Meat. You know the on Jemma Crispin and Smith You know they wouldn't are doing nothing and some people don't even know about. I know about the bobbling on the scene just waiting for the opportunity to step up. How'd you feel no because as a professional you'll you've been doing chasing titles and chasing names now even though you're still doing that dabble y'all been hunted? It's only about ball depends on the time so obviously Those books are. I don't know if you remember. Museum is is a chamberlain. who used he could fight? So I I remember you know. Buildings Defy is because the similar stuff that you know the GMO Damages People WanNa tach their name to you without fighting new so that they can sue appea- bank off of it and I'm not talking about even about high pumping about opportunity so for example. I'm going to British title. If you don't WanNa have to have lots of hard on reduce you quote out the champion to skip all those vice and getting so the similar kind of thing people can see mandate for a well. I'm not going to defend the walk. So what they'll do is let me turn out in these knives. And then thou be my institutional which is another way to navigate without having to have the hot fire so as to be expected because British box in history as a lot of us we made up of domestic ovary will level. So if you've got a guy like say a a big fight we talk about the C reactive. He's got a high rate in ages when the title of course if he gets a high ranking and it gets if VIC transferred to the WTO for instance then East thing in about a big domestic title fight against you which was obviously in your pocket and you can understand that even if he has maybe God uh-huh steal your route one hundred hundred and that's all part of the game so I've got my own personal goals while title unification's set draw. Aw But this is a sport wherever it is through. Tom Abandoned. It doesn't always go all the way you want it to go so I might say okay. He win the WBZ next fine WB. Asian one nine okay. Cool well cheaper sees. They need to fight not belts but sometimes negotiations don't work time doesn't want he doesn't WanNa find you. Don't fight I mean so then. That's when the apples and you know the gym is not. If if they've shown credibility now becomes and you could do one space of hype about ready to get the rankings have ranked will it is now. Richard is the only one. I'm not doing it. Cool he's having closed level. He's gotTa right in. He's being undefeated veit fires so when he says his opportunities he's taking on of the media in Nano he's not taking thinking they say what you want about him. You know Dion was supposed to fight not blown up his. He was nominated to Phi Chris. billups finger style. Chris wiggins said to him Ill Can we postpone deters bids us. It's gone final half he sits Gary. Chris gave me what what is happening. I said it's not happening to us on the line. They made up for the The current temple. Yes come home twice. Amazon's Christo current professor and we'd love to fly and the good thing about all you your to them to step up and I totally agree because deals English champion European champion so there is a golf in that deal necessarily powerfully some without on the road to this English NBA. I've been is is it even even in not so much. Oh okay also holiday could awesome. Do Not just people listening to Gary Train Steele. Who has a big fight? This is twenty five. Yeah you know it professionals over Listen listen I'm not looking for SAM. Hi I'm Paul some highly offer the great fire it should be on. TV is a big fight it should be on TV. And I'll just know that both guys that come into win and I think my guy covers is a lot more basis than some those go to prove. Sam's bisness fought riot. Police Bean and my biggest deal and a good fight. I've known you for Awhile. Levy Levy fan is sometimes but he has a big punch. He hasn't left hand in particular. Sometimes you rely on that and not create will suffer because of it and I think that could be a factor actor and I'll send him Texas morning and he has a responding to be annoyed watching sparring over the loss camps. I I would beg to watch that on finite I would beg to watch a plan to show me what you've been showing US sparring and that's what matters but the thing is it's sped people don't realize how difficult it is to transfer what you do inspiring two nights because there's so many other factors in play inspired more relaxed and comfortable in the glimpse at everything's different than conflict. It's different pressure making everything. Remember nine nine five. And get rid of the O'Brien for the bridge. I'm looking brilliant. Inspiring eleven eleven to and Jimmy tibbs looked at me and bashed up a few sparring partners but not horribly not like Tyson Ivy Schoff and go out and Jimmy. Let me when my buddy ain't gal issue you can do it and be strong. And of course she was a camp and then cut to a couple of weeks later and you just go get those last else few pounds off and you think in the game plan is to take this guy. Layer shave can go late out swinging of uniform thinking now the game and I'll just went from the game plan kit trying to swing and then eventually stopped me because I'll just fatigue lots of variety. Did well another interest in fact you got he was obviously Joe. Gal is going to be in the other call and and even the fight is dion and Sam but it's also a little saw a side bet. Isn't that Kotei. What's against Jim? Gallagher fashioned you know I'm not listening Nicolo with Freddie Roach and he's now man ain't about me. I love what I do. I love what I do. I Love Coaching name out there to to to put any more significance on it. I don't think John Does if if he doesn't business for me. It's not it's about my firearm of guys FIS. Nobody's is known and made them advise and that is my room as coach is just to make my fire. A bit cannot when he comes to me cannot make. It was seven months ago. And that's my roommate's because Joe Joe will try to affect Sam on that night. Sam has to perform tried to affect deal on let not. Shane tries to affect him on that night. Yeah and we do not believe in what do a five year but Mickey Duff sits one Greek thing to me. I'm a great guitar really excited. I'M GONNA go get my manager. Mickey I WANNA go across America. I WanNa be with any fortune. Maybe we'll go with this coach. Gary calm down. He goes off. See more fires. Make coaches seeing coaches. I was just saying I've just wanted to say that you make on name your. I'm glad you said that I think a good trainers with weight in gold the fight that makes a trainer everytime which which goes over to you know law and this would be a third fight with Shane. Hose that being dot two five t to successful. It's better was the transition from chain changed from training. Few from our coaches that you have is this the right fit few. Now if you fall fallout as you never know what's GonNa Happen. I thought I I enjoy this system that operates me so I'm very confident. Passan moving myself anyway. So as as I said it's always difficult matches. So he's very competitive against other coaches Jagan coming from so when I say I'm going to be getting champion. The next law WANNA go for the world title. He'll take me not. Oh you just WANNA okay. Well I was looking at the unification match. So they're not not kinda sober. Mice will personality matches well. Because I'm always like hungry for the next thing to have someone that's not telling me owner so that would kind of hold me back especially these energy attracts energy when you're not on the same energy left on the same wavelength you know. And that's what I say to. The only fighters are available from the guys that nobody knew in amateurs went on Newton. Emma saw something something in them. Therefore I'm GonNa Make Mandarin and I'm GonNa make other fires respect Yuppie once. They an icee today much him buy vying to buy into what I'm telling you you know and also inspiring. I want you to come up with an idea when you say Gary Ron Welcome so now main. So what is the most you want to train the new tactically intelligent enough to give you. The right plan is chemistry. The most important thing trainer or fighter or knowledge. Both what would you say one or the other would have nonni. I agree I feel like I have a chemistry is only good. If not as as you know coal you have to have the knowledge to know. Mafia just needs to from punches or just just needs to slip. We'll just needs to have all the chemistry to get in our custody. It's wasted knowledge if you're just like oh well card but then the top the FBI shot at that. That is something that needs to be spoken to or vice versa or some people only spoke to any so if you have the knowledge of the way to gay foods the fights that's all it's a waste all lost knees nowhere you'll fires capability so fromo punches. But they're not the type of our that can come on their show. Those punches is a waste of knowledge. Jillian coming from so you kind of have to have a balance between the two. So that's what I like about Shane and so was on. But you never asked me to do stuff. I don't actually wants to D G Get home from so high might be capable of jazz income out of But in my own mind and I don't WanNa do it. Minority takes about energy or take a process. But it's always. It's time yeah has to you a- and knowing how to get as I said I know what I'm lacking a call why won't be spoken to or independence situations we spoke about. Look at that have happened and it never happened but we've already had discussions in could not down. Yeah I mean dancers boxin. I'm not down several people so I always ask myself. Okay if as a pro diapers me. What what's this will will Rich but doctors me has points taken off such point taking about so. Do I now chase the point point in that round. We'll do I say you know that says so. There's lots of different stuff as much as we look at my my thing. I don't know I'm Dan I'm not Tonkin. round-by-round calculate between people not not just a physical hundred percent like okay. Not and he's very mature they go on to the INS and outs points are Kinda know. Okay how my feeling fitness wise. How's the going up to this point? What's the game I'm uncut? Do I feel like I have enough to push that game. We'll do change and go this way. So that's one thing. I I personally like with Shane. He's very adaptable. And he he kinda he kinda knows because he's that day in day out. What kind of but for me? It's about from him and he's able to deliver with him. Experiences breath it experience in on Move Him Franson experience experience. Nobody knew Shane was made champ. Frampton a champion of in the league champion. The world's best February in onced Shane's name and and that's what happens in getting. So what was it goes back to. The fire. May chains brings night because everybody would have said. I didn't move David. David was caught me. Snake as Communist. Adam move as done at time again. You May George grows. Wait and reach anti made Ryan Burnett champion. He made he's made numerous law is woke lost but he's made them champion. East helped the fulfil because they got talent mentality. So I don't think he would have been a champion wherever they write the chances new huge there is that maybe as confident as you do not mean so. It's about the coach helping them. Come out themselves moves. Eating the difference is you said you can't scream at certain certifies knocking give him a slap other fires. Sation Listen Megan show you you know cause some FIS FIS and they say they dropped the right time on the job for instance and see it so as a commentator I see see it and I mentioned it but I know as a trainer. You would know you're in you're in the guys corner you've seen it. I know you must've told him over straightened out when you fight just can't do thing. Even if it's simple mo the habit all just a lifetime habit or whatever it is and and for the liberal many US can again to change range enough to tie that you ever voted. Don't see where you go and try and get him going. Listen if he's fought on a really good leftover Ernie drops his back. I'M GONNA get moving through his left. Does this work on your strength. Of course always much which I'm afraid to say this just in case you reach over those giant Agios were can you weaknesses of course. Of course seventy. I'm saying Dan but what I do is yeah you know but still ought to start goods. That kind of towns so I know for example. clincher so. I've been working a lot on. There's enough Jujitsu of mixed martial arts sports so it's not just holding so I look back at yes I look back for example Twenty eighteen I post Chamberlain asking in that year and that was upholding Odin by now at least effective because I realized Fasano reading this is Although sometimes I might not WanNa move my feet the whole time. Did you come from two to take distance detail punching people off me but now with this article complex off my chest becomes. We'll grapple game blah blah blah. So I looked to enhance it. Light so for example is that different sports in Welcomed on different tactics mindsets. Let's not knowing not cool stay focused. That's what I was going to be for four rounds except John. I mean this is physically. Gaza graduates getting their chest. That's okay we've accepted that what to do next saw. Welcome this all the time. I know I'm physically strong DOT com. Osborne completely naive. If if you know where can you. One hundred percent on I four even welcoming trump's and the stuff that I do well naturally is natural so as we said physical Stra Punching the hard just have an actually kind of movement and I don. I really honestly wish don't see often the nightclub. Nobody can not something personal upsets me in Boston. It's Kinda China exactly so it's Kinda like one of those. I set my witnesses. I'm trying to welcome them over. Get Away with the straps. I have June. I'm saying so so you can move. You know you could get on the balls your feet and you could be more effective the movement. But they're not that takes away from the tall so you know it's it's given Tapu all of your strength to gain seventy nine working on undefeated. World middleweight champion generally recognizes forty forty one of the top five middleweights world in world history. Nice Fuller it was awful. It was good enough to put them in positions where they get close to getting Grefe and sometimes they've not not really I should say but he would win. Guy Was undefeated. The woman who at trump opened what it is. It's just getting the win. And the w the most important thing you know one event which grabbed headlines. This week was the press conference for Walden and fury to both flights is predicted the rematch. We'll have an exclusive ending account. Remember bigger heavyweight fight in a long time maybe be Lennox Lewis. I Mike Tyson was the last big flight this that was the last. US UK showdown. The for the first time. I'm in my boxing career. I don't need to sell us. Fight people know what they're gonNA get says exactly what it says on the ten. You're going to get a good fight wherever I think. Consensus is ivory knocks me. I wouldn't appoint multiple going around. I have a theory. Yeah win some point so while the winds by Ko and usually when people have the opinion usually goes the opposite way around so yeah expect wild come out boxing and moving locking points victory and expect me to come out and looking for or knockout deontay wilder have been returning my calls or messages or texts sensib team. Last time. He tried to keep his distance. He didn't want to due press conferences with me. It doesn't really matter what I say. And what wilder says it all mattis. What happens on the night February twenty-second what's going to happen on? Not Not now is. I'm going to get what I won't last time. I'm going to get greenbelt. I'm also going to get the ring magazine on. I'm also going to Kate. My Lineal Championship. Ed We all know rematches on. I'm always sharp because I've been in there with them before. Understand what they're capable of doing what they're planning on doing a web and what and what they did in the fighting I take away from that and bring it to account for me so I'm prepared more than ever for this. I'm knocked him out. The first time I told for every two years ago I was going to baptize him. An idea that you know rising rising up as part part of the baptism. I told you he was gonna go tim and he did but this time around. It's a different story. This time around around. This is called unfinished business. This time you won't be able to get up and says he's in wwe and we'll make sure he go right out to ring. And I might get on the top of the book and other rope. Come Down with a flying elbow kick. Who knows well? The first flight was an exciting fan. I'm sure the second one is going to be just as exciting. But I think the Laura headlines here guys is the fact that fury no longer Ben Davidson. I Know Ben took a lot of criticism of John Fury. Tyson's father after the wall all in fights and what you make of that Gary Relationships La Everybody's get shocked. They they are relationship and it's it just hasn't worked out for various reasons. tosses said that the reason why he got with Julie Hilden new coaches that thinks he can he believes we should go here. We can knock water out whereas with Davidson the oversee four. He couldn't take a different style. Stoller really helped a few in the first one tactically take on Fox two moves and kept touching eamon. You only ended up looking at one Pfizer and this time guy move. What if you really believes in what he's saying? He's a real dangerous. It's a risk that came up but there's no logic you don't punch puncher nevermore opt against some wild crazy these crazy and I think this comes out with you gotta take with the Guy may well. I don't think we've ever British file that has been so good again in finance heads klitschkos normally normally in arable. He's just snuffing. David tried everything. Nothings into what when they four and fury really good and he said and of course involved in the training camp for the first while the fight fight and how good is when you're in the ring with him. I'm not as good slack. You can see you know what I mean. The Senate be. Also he's going to use. His physical is consider match to Leans back you know news. Both ways really athletic on his feet though he might not have six pack and all that. He's very athletic. I mean in his own way just natural boxing. And you might. You couldn't do any of the spokane been boxing. You feel good in the images yet and he was that good. I watched him drop price. I send us that good carried a lot more than he's always been a good move or do think though that that especially this late the fact that changed trainers affect the fact. I've changed before. Is I really feel good At some point you you just. I didn't do it all the time. So He's been in of While we've been hasn't full bench to him by now is either more to the to the game and he's just naturally up and down side Bravo counterparts and so if this it needs to keep them so fresh and like happy then by all means we'll probably and the nucleus of the team is strong and Eli one former world middleweight champion. And you can live on and Yeah we love the fact man. He's lost free fights including including he's opponents with ninety four and one on here Ritchie and kept himself in a lot of we had an issue when he when he went to against carbon lunatics have had. It couldn't happen to one of the world's nicest people bought steely edge to him and he won't take any crap from ties. He's a really good coach. I always said that any disrespect to his books and ability often. He's coaching a bit. He's going to Paul. He was as far. I really do believe that he's got. He's got really good. Patty Donovan yes. I've seen yet eighty good fine. You know Andy's He's learnt so much Shuna game. He's being managed to it and being Vadym. Adam Bouvier rounded around here and I don't think he's really good for few in his campaign. I think you keep them under rain. What name get bit too high talk you know and also talk about change trainers and we have the Owns Josh Taylor. Obviously chained in the in the same with the same train as you. Shame a big. And they've eight hundred parted ways. What do you make them all Yeah obviously he was good as in I came to campus Lou. Welcome I mean we. We went on. GBD's became friends. I wish them the best and then obviously now changed a little bit more extra time in maybe five minutes on the patio I'd also speaking of camps you've been account with adult all the best heavyweights and let's be honest with Joshua and fury. But you Dave you take him when he two times ever a few times. Yeah spoiled really good money to watch him. They just leave the gym for a while. It doesn't Miss About Anthony. Anthony Davis Dave could hurt you trying you know I mean I often wonder what would have happened. Aj and David Haye without that shoulder injury because Davis Ryan was something else it really was the first everyone. Don't they was up and after they have the next person I want him back the next really adamantly cold it was one about an extent. What are you for real estate and I still next days when you saw the film? Do Walter Brave. Yeah uh-huh exactly and that's what Tyson has just keep him alone. You got the ability to keep this guy long and many. Mr He's chance of hitting you but if you get in his range and start swinging with him. That's where he's timing comes into uncanny timing and it's unpredictable predictable German and it's two people that don't know what they're looking at. They don't give it the craziest deserves because only the snap you once and you'll go you so you can be yourself guy but you know of your huge punchy you is going to say. Is that the David. Hey you're the weekend we were talking about Wilde at how are we didn't learn from the first Luis Ortiz fighting but he didn't see that David Hale obviously being a big punch it himself that reserved energy because he knew that he could hurt him when he called him. And I for me. It'd be an ultra boxer passing the real thing just game just an old Rome's go by just having so much confidence when you connect you will knock him out if you connect and you've spent your whole life just touching people with that hand and the guy in Oval. Yeah yeah as we said earlier only with the exception of the return fire as the only the two of them for us given that those are the only two that I have had a head at the time of the stoppages spill. All these guys weren't as good as him will. Only you didn't autism way bitten all needed and they all got gene. 'cause I'm saying you. Yeah but then David The punch. Obviously you're taking it on T.. Saying does he did. He just might be smart. If at the end of this movement to get the range what would you. I am a lot bigger punches David Hale or has Wildly is. I'm just Okay Punch and I'm saying I guess just actually punching if I hit someone team I have enough after them and I can get stoppage by these guys hit you once and then you'll go and I folded. Im a good pun job. Yeah Dem's off all the different mindset so I know I'm always thinking about winning the fight so I have to win this round just in case it does go of volume of Pontiac. So I'm I don't I don't go into. This is a August. Yes so as I can punch while I never go in thinking this is one by stoppage but whereas if you if maybe we'll have to just a little bit more power where you you get used to it and training so there's Times I've been sparring thinking boom number sparring partner don novel. She go into thinking this was going to happen. And if it happens opens every time off. Okay this is this is how Walson goes and that's happened but sometimes you do come on. Stop because you've been doing that and now all of a sudden there was someone who you can get off when you hit them there still starting and then there's what after Promo Punch and done in training so you can't change these. He's format a little bit after the Cultus five because he just forgets turn up from call. Because he'd seen palm we'll call and get get total company and visit he's sitting ringside and he wrote saw and he realized that this guy wins because he takes what you've got and comes back to be honest if there was anyone but cal Thompson was getting stock. Used the new ocal retain thinks Calvin is that when he got ready from by the time before moment now he's volume of punches was much he become a body punch. You realize that that especially because it was a lot more short and still trying to crack Humid Ryan's over top was wasn't GonNa win early because he's just going to keep shoving ahead found that she down down into a Nike. You'RE GONNA end up in skull bone breaking round. So Yeah it's pretty concert boy. which meant a bit more volume? Do you think. That's A. That's a factor for wall the body. Though the truth I mean it sounds easy but what is very tool and allusive so. It's not as easy as I'm going. The fruit bodies on talented at the same time in the corners not meeting watched him versus. They never did that. He just constantly on the move on. Because you know when your father you know he in that with so you know. I'm never bothered up the ropes problem. So he's GonNa walk he's He. He wants to win the fight. He's not GonNa make stupid stupid mistakes unless he's forced into it and obviously the winner this will say the number one in the world just been in his belt at the three belts back is is he the best heavyweight in the world right now Joshua number one is he number one number one baby perception because these guys obviously while they say and this is for the best in the world and Josh for me I thought it was a fantastic performance disciplined. Box Really. Well maybe he wasn't the fight that people people hoping he was going to box but I think he did the right thing for the opponent. The win we've just given him such a hard time because of the ruins. Defeat the manner of the rue is defeated but the fact that he came back and boxes showed us that could box. It could be that disciplined and box in that manner says a lot stalls thousand eight five. I honestly see. Aj Given and fury. Lot of trouble. I see few box in for a few rounds but I think I think thank to know something about me. We've AJ tells me if he fought few IBI APP you would be wilder. And because he it'd be the old Tasha going right truly truly believe that we've wanted level of risk but then. Aj showed me really good jab in a ruse fight which would really undo what it does. It wouldn't let while to say as well so many intangibles. I mean it's really good Erin. Everybody Division. It's good that we're too but this suspected of release. It was one of the biggest. It's not the biggest upset last year. He's kind of packet. Indulging that's GonNa come to fruition saw how many minutes he made about about some people the ANC manic some people it's not about money it's about money. Semantic desire to still I mean. How much money must manny back here with me? Now You Oh yes fifty two hundred. Yeah you know. He still has a manic desire to fight. The best is out. And that's something that's that's an intangible that the man that's counting pennies is about it anymore. It's about legacy suggests about a way of life but they won't give up that way life each you think probably overachieved win the no one given a chance in hell of getting. Let's be honest. Maybe thinking I've this is the money that I never thought I did. I took three belts. Avi Joshua golden boy in boxing say non. So you know I was. I was in new. I five because I obviously I went to said you know. I'm GonNa Take Dean Richardson. WHO's getting ready for solving area? Talk Shop No talk show. Talk Show is vacant Bacon and we said Yeah. Let's go to New York. Sparked gleason everything and all the coaches in Kuzin mkaku bleak cockle bleak. Who Coached Great Guzman Join Amongst many and he helped coach Judah that it's just got knows boxing. And he said man he said don't sleep on this ruse his hands Egos He. Don't look the Paul. He goes by punches. Don't sleep on his hands twenty four hours a feat which is also called the hands of really good. You know as I said you know. He got the big the house now. He's got he's family all say he's not stupid movies money desiring. I'd obviously obviously the heavyweight division. We had all the money is. Yeah yeah the next question for you when when when you answer I need to be Won't increase weight so that I think the biggest is yet so in all honesty. I don't WANNA be Unified champion talking rocking the gate and say hey you see that one day no thanks see that one yes please jumps yes. Oh yeah definitely I mean as my cell phone I can compete without any heavyweight states. Hifi Lavar heavy blackoput live had good wars in the gym by different on fighting that jumps and so she'd have have to ease into it. Went on say top dog. Oh yeah definitely I mean okay. If you're doing what the current crop no g young Michael would often be safe here my job I mean. He's he's a good father. Minimal Soi in this bill to this then you also got down to violence biography boxing. Joe Scarborough Yeah. Yeah I'M GONNA find a way to be left to happen. John Osborne. Both of those guys are not so beautiful. And it's because you got one guy you can punch one guy who looks like he can walk walls you could pick a soclean thunderball has what was one of the hardest punishing I I've been inevitable. Spot lots of people people. Yeah he's definite. Go part but on Joe Joyce is one of the hardest working Basel been so whoa you to enjoy and phenomena says he was one of the best amateur fights I've seen was in felts alleged Eh. Southwest like southwest tips fight and it was Nick Webb Joe. Joyce on the three rounds it just punch the it was unbelievable. I couldn't believe it didn't fall. Asleep is that is that signed Soudan delivered Dubois and joy. I think he's officially along. It's GonNa Happen. It's GONNA also questions about bunk for them also questions. Ah For me personally and said this Adam chats about these funds. I've said Joyce goes as far as his Chin will allow heavyweight. He's not the most elusive guy. He will out work. He buys said if you're out working someone that means your your head's on centerline. Most of the time you know and one thing to do is walk Iraq. He's spiteful seventy we're going to look forward to close lotuses. Third Fighters Approach was on the caliber. Gun The cat and the Sheffield returns to the ring on February eighth. Dominic and gold. Toe does this week. He refer cal fights when fifty four from though he's going to make one four seventy make it and he's got to be the right fine. I think that the fight talking game is calling. If you can do that. KOMO's buffing won't five four is the way he's going to be comfortable out ways to take too much off for the weights and He's GonNa have something in the tank so aw February. The eighth we'll see how the fight goals see performances like how he feels and then take it from there whether he thinks he can bite onto one four seven sticky Montlucon or is this a stepping stone fights or one could give worries on the ninth steppingstone five. Because you know less five was supposed to be stepping stone just a tick over job because it took kitty confides. A softball is ambitious from Boston or seen in live a few times. A compulsion name. The Brazilian economy can dig a little bit and he very very missed opportunities younger than CAL. Time to shine a little bit and maybe looking at coming to bit faded coming to the end of his career. Maybe it's my time now to step. Pope is from. I think he's from the same promoters. Andrade Kelly's he's being for that fight somewhere down the line move knows so it's not a Gimme as far as concerned. It's tough tough night in front of his own crowd and he's got to make up for the last time you took. If the right fight came Kelsen and self he can make it back down so long full civil. There's a tough fight to one seven. If he does make it. Make It Down William Weld tight some and being comfortable with the way to what would it be better served looking at fifty. Well well you know the guys that won't be the foreign agents as well. You're not I mean there's some killers it that way so use a case of in boxes about timing. Especially the you've got to find your way through the minefield so You know the potential and we will be looking for the easy option. That's what we're looking for you got to do. And so we measures up You know I'd like to see him. Fight Fi maybe our Tony Harris one of the guys that Charles is be maybe denny so just to see way multiple to them it can probably be made I think he's going to need this and a number one before we actually should commit itself to jump in into all because he's been out for such a long time when he was in his twenties late twenties didn't Mattie route twelve months but pass the three hundred four eight can be vital knowing you know what you've got left in the tank so we look forward to February seaways got left the decision for the rest of the year. Uh cautious sounds coming from the the voice. Say That Duncan England. Gatty what you make them. Well I think he knows COPAN ooh US senator. Obviously we've we've heard stories of in on Kahlil just not being able to apply himself in the gym as much as as as don would like him into the world called near. He's much near the end of his career is the beginning. And then then I think he's just letting known publicly that to Nuku CONFI and buckle down. Do you think this is your thing if you're the win but the performance is important. The former should be good because the last performance wasn't good work so you know to to to performances on the trump. Any future is going to be. You know put on the backburner just not happen. Do you think there's a worry day with no because you are too bad eye. Injuries obviously got off gin in and that will spend that there might be a little bit over-cautious approach not someone from dominate. But also from cal score if you saw clergy. Hasn't it has Canadian mini Eddie's face re titanium pool yeah so You a long long life off your boxing career and if he's thinking that way then you know then anything. I mean. This guy. Don't thumbs right on to confide he's GonNa come to find not coming over here just to make the numbers. He's on a really good run on North American votes in federation Super Super Welterweight. Talking he's stock lost to our free very so chasing the money not the glory anymore you get to that stage. I think he is getting to that stage now. The right yeah yeah exactly at least someone sincere right this fine you get these big money fight. Then he's not Matt Ryan. He has a narrow because he hasn't got no e Ping lots of attention. ooh You haven't really got some of the credit. I think going away from home show in politics. He proved that would be a fighter. Now isn't he said no since the cal defeated all over them uh of a full of brilliant display and spends much of even there Bryan to the in dumfries at Tau Awin while he was still punching and even even talking. At least. I'm up for now. I say how good Spence Spence brings out the best in fires. That's the best. Kilbride I've ever seen was again spence. Each gresh singles via Disney's sophistication poor. I've ever see against Spence. So that's the level that spence is brought and these guys and we we were fortunate to witness it speaking of levels. Obviously we know one of his former G. bt. Just Kelly is rumored the box refacing David in next match. VSBN thank okay got you. You've been invested because because you both of very well and do you think Josh needs more consistency in the ring. Yeah just you know. I've never watched him SPA. What should fine? And he's head movement is as good as any any British Arava vaccine is the ability to make you miss bought a dumping. He's got the consistency with that goes with countering. And that's what I'd love to Z.. He's got such good hidden he could slip in or outside of your job and still counts you and we don't see that consistency and sometimes it's like he wants to look good providence. Good NASA big. Yeah good point not truly believe though if he does apply. Because that's what we've seen in the Railroad Winston Phi Phi. He just had recently. They were pockets Of Judge Kelley looking world walls but the world class size from world close to elite they consistent and you know I and I think that he's going to be a hybrid off a coffin. Ricky Hatton. Wow what find that. The yeah I'm going to need a treaty. Believe he's got. Billy is just apply as low as what was in the squad. There seems really really talented. On Fi I talked to I mean can make One by him the IPHONE when I was that I go that he's good looking guy. Yeah so I fought hits this guy. He's done the newseum hit but he's not really tough line really goes for it so that's not always use. He's going to be a confided so I'm excited about. He's that's where people don't give him the credit he's tough and and someone could helps selling but some people resentful that because they don't aspire to that it's not something they and also and your turf until you prove time this is and you know what he's a tough but he's a really really nice kid a really as a kid is grown is go kid zone. He's a nice man a a good man you know he's loyal and I wish everything about the best. All I would say you know if I was on the outside and didn't know him and I'll say it is tweets face more consistency agency. When you make some Amiss on free or four shots then move your at adding encounter again? 'cause you certainly got footwork. And he's got a hand speed and ability to do it is just doing it consistently. Let's hope it's a big issue for him. The big if you Lawrence. That's all we got to this week. I'm afraid thank you for coming on got. He's been a pleasure absolutely great to see humaid. Hope there's GonNa be a fight them much master twenty eight and few listening. Thank you very much and we'll see you next week.

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Hunter talks Whyte, Povetkin, Usyk & Chisora

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

33:14 min | 3 weeks ago

Hunter talks Whyte, Povetkin, Usyk & Chisora

"Hi I'm Debbie. Jim Haney and your listen to toe to toe podcasts. uh-huh. Fission of ringside coach. So boxing podcast exclusive to Scott Sports. I'm Matthew Macklin an ongoing by guest best described as little enlarge. It's Barry Jones at heavyweight concerned up. Michael Onset. Few weeks for the heavyweight division, there was plenty to discuss. Let's start with whites and your last opponent Vet King Michael, you take to that kings abate dillion white to knock. You might actually I hate to call it like that and I went out you know I just call. Barry a union strike back into media rematch with productivity is that Roy to? Tricky thing. Comment saying this is. David price legal knocked out against Thompson and I said, he should go straight back in and he did not again so that that's the worry but I think it should ready is now walking what he's lost A. Position that he's also so we'll show. Than a win against back, and again, we'll put it right back to where he thinks. He belongs I didn't think of a risky fight in the face time I thought no evacuate was dangerous fight the top quality operator I thought against Michael. Michael in the fight against back in. I thought it looked so but then knob sat and think. Michael Hunting make it look. So it times I. Don't I'm not quite sure. Might be a little bit of both but either way I, it's a risky for I. That videon can win if he's Betty, betty disciplines more what does do white have to during the rematch much to make sure the scientists happen again. Hopefully, not really take the fight in December I. Think it's not a good idea for him to take that fight. So early or just have to get back and he would need to be back in the gym like right now you know and be working on these things I think he would have to be a certain type of mentality that you'd have to take to figure out and study and you know because sometimes when when you have certain fights. Don't even like to watch these these type of fights or. If you do watch them you're not watching them with attentiveness. You know what I'm saying you're not watching the learn you just kind of watching. You know you're judging yourself instead of a learning learning from yourself. So I think if he has the right mindset, any carries that all the way through until he fights for baking in the I think he would definitely be in in there would be a trilogy involved. I mean it was it was a bad knockout fate he was not that call in the Kobe some mental scars psycological scars going to they made it rematch. got knocked out. So me not to say Campbell the band aid on it, or it's not gonNA hill up or a be stronger than in dim before but it was a wound was an open. It's it is an open cut in down depending on his energy is is how we're GONNA know how healy is from from the the situation like I said I really think it's a little too soon for him. I was more surprised to me that deleon dropped him than dealing then actually becky knocking him out. With, a loss in an immediate rematch with spell the end of million well, title contention. Yeah I think at world title contention for sure at you know in boxing is you know so this is just the game we're in that when you lose, you know you kind of drop a steep steep place you know so for him to lose twice in in that fashion. You know you know nobody's GonNa, give him. You know that that type of opportunity he would have to find his way back up and I think would have to deserve a now if he beats Vivek in especially depending on the fashion. Edges it out. I mean I think you know he he's done enough to. Secure himself and he'll that situation you know what I'm saying so I think he should just focus on vacant if he is going to take fight and just be a hundred percent arlene, you know on those control for my call. Is for you. Absolutely. You know I've been Kinda picking at a billion for for a little bit but I'm willing to fight any anybody in the top team right now. So that'd be a great fight I want to I would like to Piper vacuum like I said I always a tweeted out our go to even rush to fight him. So these these fights that these are good fights for me in my career in, of course. I want to shock the world. Please the fans so. Barry diller white losing certainly moved Anthony Joshua on. That fight, a step closer they'll be WBZ mandatory situation won't be any united certainly not in the short term period and Joshua said if the fight happens, he'll go through Tyson fury stopping inside six Ryan's give me your thoughts on not I think that's the mindset shift have. I still have pictures win if you if you're asking but I think that's the mindset. I'm encouraged that he's thinking that way because as good as you want against the reason, the second part I think tactically forthright fights that Joshua never be fury needs to go in the old John. Go right back to you. There's a risk at, of course without air of invincibility that he had that he could. Get tagged. He knew he could knock you out. He was willing to risk I think that Joshua. Joshua we know fear is Josh. Could potentially could fury more trouble and could you just Joshua zones aggressive never ever folded straight lines he wasn't the most fury that fighters have goes. SMOOTH RHYTHM to look won't be on the job. So it was educated precious I think that would. Well I. think he bad off with the fact, the mindset that language going to knock few is to me that has the right mindset he has or that he can do on all. It's a different thing we've seen judy or good moves and Can Be cover for big she also. I think. That mindset is the right mindset going forward. Another big significant fight in the heavyweight division as who seek against their riches seora. On of course, has said that he will not step aside. If you win. Or Hills, he wants to straight in the fight against Anthony Joshua. Heidi see you seek Zora can absorb spring the upset bad boy called both your compensate. I think she's made Susic did notice if. I. A good fight him expect we didn't hope coat physical presence, but I don't bring music for wanted to get for stepping aside why should he does for his career for the sake of the DACHSHUND worlds I wasn't happy with indium what's new? I know way too long title shots and I didn't progression nuts but the fact that the. Found some integrity an alternative to win against Rebecca all that that that mandate she fights when we were so close unification like the one champions in the heavyweight division, and if the heavy division is healthy, it took on the whole, the oil, the weights it makes school a bad place so to have one champion will do us. So I hope. That doesn't get in the way so you couldn't blame you tune it and who knows each so school for Michael No I, I I seen the fight is muggle nosing in the most goods good and affected he can be with his pressure with his movement and Sets traps the physical strength dot weights because because he brooks of shops. Disney Michael He plucks shuts when he will own donald weather the bigger guys like punch up events. Or your thoughts on Zoar sick and also the situation with Sake, false in a position on that we the mandatory I mean I think has every right to do so and I think he should do. So you know I think him in the. Fight I think like you said, he's made for desserts made for him but. Like you said that physical presence in you never really know that was a perfect way to explain it at a win the presence of when they get into each other's face and and how that really got plays out you know the strength in somebody's energy you you never really know until they get up there in his auras always been alive dog any any always has a. Good shots in him so Lucic should win. But if he does I think he should definitely it'd be definitely rightful for him to you know shot a step in the way in in Rome. Michael let's extent like is he physically sounds technique. Now he's not really yeah, he's he's more fleet-footed. He's not necessarily a physically strong person but I'm he's strong in I guess presence because he's always there a he's durable he's not like he's GonNa. Not. GonNa, too much shy away from from stuff. So he's GonNa be trying to like you said blocking kind of being in your face. So physically to be able to have punching power is more GONNA wear you out type of thing he's going to wait until he gets tired he's GONNA to be. Not. Hurt for more of exhaustion than you know more about our. Presence keeps took Kanye. Yes he keeps touching news in your face. He's always there he's moving. You know you know he's very durable even if you hit him. flings back and comes back at you. You know he's constantly put in that like you said that educated pressure. So you know I think it'd be. Interesting to say the least. Or Croatian. Philip Hug each street to find two weeks in Denmark could he be the next potential danger man in the heavyweight division? Barry I. If it's might be ready thing just no but I think he's he's not crop those guys just. And wildest I think Michael's in them. With season, the more seasons in those guys that didn't also group that just don't take this the wrong way Michael. So I feel. Maybe. Three or four very top and I think I think it's about the right time if. He doesn't. He doesn't need to rush. She is twenty eight and initiated twenty eight is that. I would wait until I met these guys. Months themselves and so aware to get some guessing skies on bowel habits and then make the move. I think that this eagerness want to rush people straight away now to to the Semites. It it's it's great. If you if you're good news it on changle, you know for those. Too much too soon, you know, let's say Michael Michael's like on the twenty five. Give me the baby giant I'll take A. Nice to Eddie that I would want to take that fight. You know we thought on similar cards I used to size while lot. You know he's Kinda big. Where you're trying to fight him do you think he thinks he's always on way too much Oh. Yeah. I. Agree with you. Very I. I really think he's You know like you said is no time to rush in I think they're doing a good job by not rushing. I think even though he's in. Our range I feel like he's in the bottom of that range. As the least he's still to be seasoned and put through a couple of more tests before. He's willing to take those different types of steps like a cow Daniel of the war in. willing to take I think he's like you know he's he's about their. Or wanted to go format Amazon, opponents and the release junior reset for a comeback against Chris Ariola Reserve. Is there a danger that Andrew as GME is a bit of a one one? Andrew is absolutely not Andrew. US is a natural born fighter just from his heritage you know what I'm saying. So you've got to a certain peak in you know there's there's some still learning that he has to do and I'm pretty sure that you know he's still a fighter he's still young. And healthy is busy as hell. He's healthy. He's a very healthy bake boy. So. He's he's Today. Shis. Is Very strong I. think he's one of the best as far as fighting in the pocket. Nobody's going to stand toe to toe for real with him. So he has an ability that I think is very special that that nobody really deal with and that's why he's where he's at right now you know what I'm saying. So I really think. He's GONNA be bad. We'll see him. We'll see him in the near future. Saturday night Daniel Dubois returns the ring and one inside the distance how well known in the US's Hey Michael. Well in the boxing community. We I mean, you know boxing fans we love he's a new young heavyweight. So we're we're everybody's looking for the new young heavyweight so He definitely known. To. A certain certain degree is not known in mass. You know crazily everybody known as as a public figure anything or Nikon but. Obviously he's still young. He still has a lot to to grow in lots of learn in down. He's on the right path. So he somebody. Different out for. Bari is the ready for that step of finau against Joe Joyce. So I I. People Forget it. It's a weird I've never known a situation like this where you have an Olympic silver medalist undefeated as box a much higher caliber opposition as a professional and he's younger dog. It's the weirdest thing you know. It's the way the he should be the guy that will pushing Silverman. This should have been the golden. This will in many people's always epochs formidable champions boxing over the world couldn't do it. So okay. So we know what he's all about Joe Joyce and you could plan to beat in quite comfortable really get in the ring you can't do it because he's just a machine so you can. You can see what you have to just trying to do. It's another thing. Is the end, the dog and I fancied Wha, I don't know why I just do think. Too Big to boss hats easily, but I just think somehow. It. Smoothed at the job of the way through along right? Strong as you are, you can't keep taking shots like that. I just think maybe the lack of movement Joyce would probably favorite to I. Think he not step up but again, it's another guy i. think he's still got pull back on the reins because he still needs remote schooling he's he's almost. I think the you know even the anticipation. Floyd you know thing how the you waiting and stuff I, think it's actually even though they postponed it wasn't probably plan but I think it worked well and you know we're still excited to see that fight so like I said I, get my I tip my hat in guys taking their fight on because that's a big step for both of them. Unless a turning point for either one man's career. Two, thousand, eighty, million particularly Mike. You just sit on the fence and enjoy the giants now actually. Yeah. I think I'm going to enjoy it. I would like to see how it plays out you know and and be able to read You know like you said when you see that presence and you see how it's GonNa work because they both are are known for. Their both known for the similar attributes, but they display them in different ways. You know what? I'm saying they both have very conditional, very conditional. They do a lot of punches. They're both known as a hard punchers. You know what I'm saying very consistent. But they both have their own ways of going about it. Like you said, Daniel was a little more smoother when it comes to the technique but when it comes to that experienced that Olympics and stuff like that. That's something you cannot. Be So it's very interesting fight lonely cited for that fight. Absolutely. umbilically spreading pheromones something for everyone with a lockdown period. But you in particular, you didn't get your functional contract renewed with Mattru but you call out everyone on social media in an ideal world who your next opponent A. Man I would like to fight providing. Russia I mean if I had a chance I would like that fight just because of which has happened in down you know that rematch is this was supposed to be my rematch and they're giving it to dealing white. So. I like I like to fight Tyson fury deaths. That's just me. But you know output Tyson fury and whoever else wants to you know come up. Barry who looked to see my killing with? Just at the same back to be honest. I use it fight would be ingested old heavyweights. Watch the you the most at the time of cruiserweight because he was will rayvey while the up to that point. I think you probably gave the most trouble I think that. It's heavyweight whether that again, a physical presence. Of Yours 'cause I think it naturally a bigger guy It's even still be the favourite you have to admit up. I. Think it would be I. think it'd be maybe a bit of a tricky against that would be an. Want to defeat we all to you. No, I'm begging for that fight every day you know you know that's really the one I don't mention too much but that's actually to find out what like the most you know if I had to be ideal. Now, I would like to see him heavyweight and you know get his name back. excited. So I can get a reason. No be determined if I been, which is operatives as. Good years no no no I. Only compete with myself you're saying. The only person I compete with I just have to figure it out either me. I. would be in there to figure it out for sure. I wouldn't deter me I'm really I like to go against you know the energy especially when. I've had a loss to women and didn't do so well in the first showing you know I I would have done that right back again the next day you know so I definitely want that fight in I can't wait to get it back I'm working on it every day. You've been fighting on and you've been nursing a couple of injuries, veterans, Toll Road tighter cough. He had a knee injury while, but you've been using simple tiny taste but usual methods for healing the Yoga. I've been a light therapy boards therapy join elaborate online before us would definitely, Yoga's some something I always use as a tool to keep me healthy and You know maintain you know my dexterity and mobility and stuff like that. Keep my strength. But. I've been fighting with a torn rotator cuff since the actually in the Martin. McCauley fight. So I had the Ustinov Fi. I've had like three or four other kunsman Maldonado and then the invite. So we were just kind of maintaining trying to deal with it as it was as the fights kept coming. But now you know obviously hadn't been almost a year since I've hadn't fought now even though the years go by like that. That you know I've been restoring and doing a lot of regeneration just like you said, light therapy, there's a lot of different. Programs for your shoulders and certain You know water therapy and ice therapies. Bet I always read up on and learn about this thing called the The Sea back pod where you know it, put you in high elevation and I'm. So there's different different on things that we've been using in experimenting to try to stimulate the nervous system in a different way. So instead of using the you know the good old shot into but. We can't. Tell us some alternative natural medicines or more. It's been a pleasure having you on the show. You have a big following here in the UK and hopefully we can see you back in a pretty shrinking very soon. Thank you can't wait. I'm working on coming back there. What's love you guys really follicle Before we go by, let's have a quick roundup of the lights. He's Boxing News Stein with reports, the terrorist crow in statement officially now off the couch, Brooke while point four, million dollars to fight. That's a fair deal in the current climate. I saw to I can't think that's I can understand that. A good money in his career but. Without the fights if he really thinks win as a career defining fight for him video isn't as big money after that if he thinks he can genuinely be offered the fact that could be the best in the division. Signed the picking. All, but if it's going to be in the next six to eight months, when else is he gonNA win? Any money is not gonNA get any of that to see. That's the that's the problem. There's no other alternate, his options for museum. So if I was him especially this stage of his career right now but he's still at the top level but for how long I would take. I think the clocks probably taking on Cowpox career little bit is relevant within the Division I. Think he realizes that because the fact that and you find a lot listen guys at some top level, all of a sudden he can make the way back then he could. Speak I know where the younger you take things for granted you'll know this of course, you take it for granted and you need everything for the last minute because your talent get you through when you get older that's not as shop is used to be I would know this every time, the twenty five I've seen it. So. You realize that you have to be a bit more structured but so I think he realized his is is coming to the end of the roads at this level and he wants to go on the top says the new tactic make welterweight now but you never thought you would i. Super Welterweight, which is going to be as way than the fish out there but. He did say we had him on the on the podcast. Before. And he was saying that dog can be make welcoming now better than I could. Four or five years ago, which was a shock to hear can he still be a force it while white or to think he's cashing out? Books to be honest. I couldn't pick him against golf and I couldn't pick him against SPENC- Spencer the bill comes back to do tune against goes if he comes back to. The lovely was. Is Not going to be an easy fight at any of those is to to be truthful. Like anyone. Pick up the money. But at what expense Zhang good many in where'd you you don't WanNa be kind of fall to the world class prospects coming up and that's that's what ready if you stay too long because a lot of is have an understanding. To Nick as much as you cabin for you cash out but I don't think he really needs. That's a big fight the big cash cutler million and fair enough. But he's not yet luxury now with a cut, he had at the end of his. Recently. Then he can solo think. I. Don't have to chase them as much as I thought I'd have to so. I ease cash out but if it's not a casual, the highest ever I don't think. The proves is absolutely fantastic career. Better. At stages to be. It could have been a lot worse. You know he was real talent. And I'm talking like he's always welcome. eulogio she's it's the case know still good fight that and and I think he could still shocked if you guys but. I just I couldn't. I couldn't pick him begins cough. I could. But I, still take fight. We will fight that. Why wouldn't you WanNa win the ruled by when you want to win. A million was one point five million dollars while million just over million. Sounds like a good bag into me? We'll talk about world title fights as the WBO has ordered Jose Ramirez most defend against Jack Cattrall. Now, that's a big step up for Jack cattrall from the logs tyrone McKenna on O'Hara diabetes book it's wanted to be crying out for isn't Is is a super lightweight India wants to be on. The eighteen months plus and so his shots I know he has some box nowhere near that level opposition, of course, but instead of reveal Boston to do. Leave acid to fight this guy win. This title would not sell defended against Speller and he's done that and he beat those guys. So He's elevated Regions Authority can you got? A along time ago, and he got his shelves the way before the middle of last year really to be honest. Again same situation heavyweights where we got Josh Taylor Taylor's the best like on the planet in my book and Ramirez us. Second to me. Up to Charles each the book for the same promotional guys. That's an easy to make you feel and now the chucking got it on. T. Mandatory. I'm happy catching deserves his shot but again for the sake of bauxite, which workable while scenario then fight this have room championed much phenomenal. I understand organizations guys as well as Michigan is the account. So No. One shop maybe theoretically maybe. But for the sake of the SPAW to make it a mainstream sport because it's not a mainstream sport yet again. That's have one champion and then Jack and Dale where they give him maybe some step aside money on. Guaranteed. I wouldn't take A. Malleable situation we're partners, Jack I wouldn't take the money. No, he's waited too long wouldn't take I'd say no, I, did my shot. You should give me step aside money six eight months ago and then I'd be fighting so I would say no for him the one you many want to fight for the world title and if I news. Missile. That's my business are chomping to the world on good enough and he thinks he is good enough and rightly. So for the sake of the sport for Mike from outside respect if. I wanted to take it was many and I want gesture let the Fight Ramirez. and. Then just led the fights Josh Win The fights Jack Capsule back in the UK. In an in a huge floods where the bucks in the boxing fans in the public winners. But if I was shocked catching, I wouldn't take money not a non a millionaire is not a penny. Care what they? Say. The it within reason without going too often millions they asked the different. So you know the I would say, no, the Jack Capital I've Seen Jack from what he's to professional. and. If Being A. Victim of trying to look good either be goods quite a lot of times to be honest. He's good. And he's ready and he's Betty Betty Betty Shuki, and they'll think the boxer that level and be easy to hits, and it'd be anywhere dollar scenario either good operating. It's a step up and he might be. Wanting. Deal surprised that you people whether I don't think he I mate Ramirez favorites though I would think Giacomo flying over the tremendous credit on that fights even whether he will not a good operating radius. kind of said this week. April hands toward son in October against. Kris. Jenkins. Stalwart. Is that risky for Connor. Festival is it's I'm not blaming you because you're bigger than me. It's disrespectful question I. Think it's Kinda risky five Kris Jenkins. Then that's what we should be saying these the British champion Columbine is the most improved fight in the UK. He's not the best most improved because twelve months ago. If you said, we're GONNA. Choke con abandoning Kris Jenkins off five of the British title. Most people, I would get crazies new with enough already because so much to do, but he's not learning. He's improved dramatically humidity has, can I didn't see him? No, the level. Turned professional you have to admit yourself. I'm quite two times you'll hit too easy. Didn't he didn't like you had the power of his dad's could he's not the school is that People forget the okay belbul. Bemba's. So we tend to think that will. Mold. The name that the substance putting chain that's changed the perception is Albany's road todd and he's he's at that level. No. Chris still payment this risky five Kris. Jenkins are still think it's a fight with crystals famous. PECAN thebenz improved if he keeps improving dot dot in your face with the has and if you can get a little more dial with it and she's trying to. Benefit anybody reading is included Josh Kelley who was a buffet right now As always talk Mokoena's an easy fight to make but be a message if he keeps improving which he is to be there. But a forty one benefit way to products that because he had the name in the spotlight was on him but you gotta remember security virtually almost no amateur experience few fights over any he's very much learned on the job point Sam's a natural assets explosive power of lawyer all the things you can't teach your the boy you've got the. Comparable left out your your the ball with those things or you're not and he's got the he's so hot practice. What's so hard on his technical tactical side of things needs really really improved. So I'm very much with you not one in terms of. Talking about fathers. In boxing. ORGAN USTRALIA Tim Sue Dominate. Palma wbz world champion, Jeff Horn can he for his father's footsteps? Big Shoes to follow in this. Job Why would you walk like? Mice. We deer. Mice like to be a boxer because. Tiny shadow don't mean whatever does you've got to be a little champion. Highly it's Cost Zoo. Never going to be as good. It's hot. It's just horrible. Cruel cruel joke. Many ways but. I don't know if he's that good over the. Jeff hold. was fantastic aims Love you seen. It wasn't it was close but just even be Deepak. got. The verdict. But he just to be competitive against PAC yet at any level, you have to be a good fighter. But, the decline has been just horrible and against Tim Zoo has really walk sentiment the notes. But he stepped up and he looked good and and he got the win but you want to see him in against him now. Maybe. On the on the incline avenue decline in their Korean Coke said I don't necessarily countable, Talbot? He's never going to be good. That's you. Bet any money on it, and that's not a slight on him. That's just prayed over this because his father was. was a abyss fashion. custer arguably the best hundred, four pounder this ever brain. This. This. Not long to not again, the best following. Fix Police L. Begins George composed Easter as IBF white fun eliminates challenge Fatiha Fema Lopez's world Colle- still compete with the very based. Now he's moved up to one hundred, thirty pounds. Yeah I think he. I think he was killing himself to make a new struggling to make feathering along tonker these in a big frame, the problem with the. It was good. It wasn't a massive maxwell names. move up or weights, and even WANNA fight it yet to win a shot so. The only thing he had going for him was that title the Mac Ability to get folks close we have to stay at feather and then he came up against a phenomenal wanted to needs and I was like the road and he he wouldn't be just you could beat Egypt Josh was just punch perfect Moore was great. Bears Lovely Cubans of his nose get. Like, a good fighter and the dip to beat Ricky and the dog let's had fights. It gives away the attributes. He has featherweights. So I think yes to tweak his Talbot these Albie if I think that's the problem and doesn't treat that style can get away with things because FIFA ninety is also big for lightweight. Featherweight. Reaches not so big dig it no Cambosix five nine and a half in East East eastern along we that's A. Going I fancy. Lico impose is still a little bit green beat Mickey Bay is is by Mickey Bay hasn't really been. Competitive Two thousand sixteen when he lost the world title shop. So I think that's a bit of a fascinating. Winfield's I. Think you know if we could just really put it on a quick and I don't mean really imprint put it on him that experience and dictate the pace. I think it winfrey and then he gets his we'll talk show and waits another thousand days I gave one else asks do. and. Then they chuck them out. So we're going to get a unification. The CIVIC I've become. Well that's open this show remember to write annoyed Jones my thanks to Berry and Michael Most of all to you for listening catch you again next week.

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Barry Jones discusses Wilder, Callum Smith & Golden Contract

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

1:02:12 hr | 11 months ago

Barry Jones discusses Wilder, Callum Smith & Golden Contract

"Business Day the brunt bummer. WBZ overweight seven. And you're listening to broadcasts. Yeah hello and welcome to this. Week's addition of ringside toe to toe boxing. podcast exclusive to Sky Sports Sports. I'm undeclared and this week coming to you from the REPTON. GM where we're doing the role for the super lightweight quarterfinals in the golden contract tournament. This week I'm joined by very special. Guest called his former super featherweight world champion Barry Jones barrier. I thought some kind of toe to toe scarf for you to hold above off your head so we could take a picture pitch into football matches. Nice be depressing. Chocolates Jefferson absolutely barry. Thank you he was telling me less story Tokyo finding wars in the US. I it was a leading question was leaving Coleman. He knows my wife makes chocolate right so so actually she. She's as I said goodbye. Barry's Barisan love her. I will do I will. I will tell you anyway. Great this is my first. The Reverend Jim unbelievably no well. The first time we did the tool for the featherweight few weeks ago. I I've been down here as well or couldn't quite work out how that what happened. But he's a bit of a tall displace. Isn't it because you look at it from the outside and then when you come inside everything you expect to be here is he's here. He's called the conduct decor the people. Try and recreate in other James. But you can't recreate it. You can recreate producing champions. You walk around see the photographs and it's fantastic it really this. That would even. Though they don't pick names now with aroma I was an amateur. Remember him remember him. What did he make? There's a professional. It's really as you can spend you can spend always just looking at the photographs and and reminiscent well a few of the fortunes of Arrive caught early actually local genius. Hey when when I arrived sixteen to know fighter from Hawaii big reputat abide amy's has some good wins as well good data over in the USA. wingate's Roy Garcia he's been floating looking around Tahrir McKenna plates all left hand side with with Jamie Colin human are horrid. Davis is an interesting talking point for this all neighboring going on social media for a while and they profile that if they if they if they get the chance to choose each other than than they will. What do you make of the drawer aspect of this? What does he don't? That's what the Donald say more than if they do choose each other if one of the The option to choose the other one and the not to to maybe try and keep it didn't the date there's also another folks just walked in do spend he has no. I think some issues retire Kennedy Bucks a really close fan not so long ago. And he'll think that he was unlucky. An illness chance to rectify that also every every fight in the tournament seems to have some dislike for Ohio Davis. So they'll want to the has tag it on his back he's always had that has an a. something he's calling to rally stanley his think. The jewelries it is interesting at the last one. We saw some some choices made that we we didn't really expect Particularly hard on so Kara's picking Ryan Walsh Jess. You get unexpected things. I mean if it disciplined operation when you when you were fighting which you have had in mind who would prefer to choose because you don't know how the polls have come out. I would rather be chosen chosen. You will not want to choose easiest fights. Could you WANNA get to the final. You WanNa win it. I cannot see no problem with that. But what impressions does that give an as boxes. Fox's prize even though you actually WanNa pick easy fight to get to the final. You don't want to be seen to pick the easiest bug you WANNA hold up provide so you end up picking a tougher fight then. Maybe you wanted off the Australia. The bats so I would just be chosen to be honest and also takes your hands. You don't WanNa you'd never turn on fights as a fighter really when money's taken ultimate you don't turn down a five sentence a fight you go in this bill go. That's most fighters will do that. So to be chosen make just as a natural progression views not is a natural selection. Got You WANNA fight me this go and you happy that it was interesting you could sense. The mood changed last time because everybody arrived in a few days before fight right not to fight as a generally quiet relaxed when it came to the business end of it. Another interesting always league which is picked out David Joyce right off the bat out at four to cheese from it anyway. He went straight for him so of show. We'll see some more of that. Today's more kind of matches A. Maybe you wouldn't necessarily necessarily expect but aw we show some good fights in the first one. It's it's toolbox in vogue at the moment isn't it with with the series. It is in the fact that they get to choose huge. This might be the way. Boxing goes books is much to be their own best promoter picking fights literally picking fights is I think it's a fantastic facet concept and I think the first the first tournament was fantastic. Water Nights I was lucky. Enough to get there'd be able to sat ringside the oil coal and David just last fight the nights and then the next fight was fighting and then the next fight was fighting. It was like this is just. It was just fantastic and I hope. A lot of expectation dictation on this on this waits on this on the seconds so second round told him because they have to produce. What the featherweights did I think that the visit? There's a need not to be excited. Campy flatness this is false. It'd be emphasized with. Oh good the last one while so they have to. You have to game but I think you. Do you know that that I know. There's so much to stick. Just many not tonight is the contract at the end that you get for boxer turbot guarantee unless you're a superstar Ocalan. Tea is unheard of and to get that. That's that's a massive incentive this tournament. Should it be around for people like me. I think especially the guys that you've got like Mikey Sake and Cuban who who don't get massive opportunities. They just don't they. Don't get spot satellite and I. I can empathize because I was in my career from a small place in Wales. And you don't really get to know you and I share a superstar joke house so you have to build your way up and this tournament is been a not a step into its. Shell cuts to that to that top level. It's interesting you mentioned too. Because originally they were in the reserve and a couple of pullouts has meant that they've they've stepped up and those kinds of stories are always always great. Remember talking to Ryan Rhodes before the featherweights because Razek Najeib his go to call in in the car on the way that he was going to be going to be involved in all. Now Jake Robinson we stayed ultimate Cinderella Man Story and catering gathering and it's an marquis sake all of a sudden now. They've got this huge opportunity. Lots to think about anything to to to obsess about anything the drawer and then they're into and there's no pressure because no one expected to win and to be honest I it'll be it'll be a feet if if one of them to be fair and some of these good fight this year so this so even though you quality there's no pressure attitude so you can just go to sleep with with no expectation. Just do your best. And that's in some ways. That's that's a good thing. You are more relaxed where you think. They might be too nervous in Bali. It's because they don't have a long time said to digest all this. I think you're scoped at this rocks and bucks. The best they can. They win if they won't they won't speak with the other guys but expectation on your show. It can sometimes be a clove. You could smother smother you and you can. You can fall in the perfect example even a good fight. Ed Davis in one of his biggest hits over the expectation maybe of women on the pressure and folded and I still can happen sometimes. A dig at the kids. It can happen to fight isn't it. It's happened to so for these. These two kids coming in off the pats religious got in a shot. It's a this is gene. Come through the door. CALPINE will be in operation a stoppage bonus. Are we review. The collapsed won't tell you when and and it was interesting. We were talking to Ron Walsh and others and they did say are expected to say no to this but when I was in your head when when when you make some in roads and you might be able to close the show. I thought that wouldn't make any difference to you. Be Laser focused totally professional and said no we did. I was thinking about that. You know I was thinking about it. I think they think about organically as the fight goes on. I think I think at the very beginning not boneless would be. I think once you prepare for fight especially Iran while she was a wealth of experience he's not going to go in there actively looking for that knockout with with the the risk of getting beat each go digital win the fights but it's the Fi- progressive. He founded stronger then he probably thought actually. I think there's I can see if I can put on the Gassama. Go to stop this year. And he boxed that was one of the best if not the best. I've Seen Ryan Walsh. I have to be honest. I think some of these guys are GonNa have to put yourself in their best. I really really do. And the interesting thing with some of these fighters title mechanic especially good boxer perspective. Haley keeps ABC's head. He wants to fight so much all. EMC has he throws them out the window for the TAB and that's also that's a gift and a curse because it can engaged the whole it can produce a fantastic win but can also get you so much trouble and I think he might be in one of the fights of the nights. Just yeah I I think I think you may well be right. Whoever whoever these that? That's probably he's going to be the one to watch for excitement. He does tend to as you say he does tend to abandon those those books which we we do know housing just Iraqi to track you three the modern if you could come up clean so busy week coming up this week it was. It was a pretty caught. What for boxing Last week which has been unusual given the hectic schedule that everybody's HAP but we're definitely making up over the next few days. Three live boxing events over a four day. He's taking you for your call to Liverpool to Las Vegas so we might as well start in the Bright Lights Vegas work our way backwards deontay wilder defending funding not WBZ will title in a rematch against Louis Ortiz. And he says he's learned his lesson from facing the cage Cuban the first time he's a great great counterpuncher so it allow me to religious. Think about what I did before I did it because I knew every time she will throw back. You have a reaction you know in The first time I came out and threw a punch it was like I did a major old. I was amazed the reaction that he gave me as soon as I gave him. Something and I knew I was in for a fight at that moment in time. That's what a champion Wanna be up against. That's what a tabby WANNA put his belt on the line for here. I am again the second time. Many people calling me crazy. They say I'm crazy going. If I to begin maybe so maybe that's why my last night while I'm looking forward to the second one it's GonNa be amazing flying for somebody's GonNa get knocked out and and Y'all know what I come to do. This will make this division so powerful you know it runs it all because of the intensity you know when you see Louise these are teasing. UCSD Ontario Wild. You know. Come on Bro. I say we do most to toughest fighters in the division period. No one wants to fight. They call out a whatever with demand skill level and now lives in the ring and my power you know. Nobody wants to fight. But you know that's why November twenty third is going to be amazing moment in history. You know like I said the respect is high because we we understand what we have to do. We don't have to go back and forth you know. gladiators can have civilized conversation. Well but guarantee you November Obama twenty-third. There's going to be words so the first flight between between those two between Dante Wall Luis Ortiz. Turn out to be a brilliant fight and he was. He's taken very very close. Walder credibly close really was out in this feel most of the end of that round when he walked back to his back to call. Do you expect him to have as difficult to type. Oh I've dishonoring no no India difficult to be I think the I think he showed so much qualities in that fight. I know maybe maybe he's too close for comfort. It and he was out on his feet Pacific. I mean he's hurt and you know people say he looks only does but if you covers if I back and he got the win I think I think he was assured could resolve. I don't think he has same problem. I just can't see about. Ot's just I think he just slows down. And I think it would be better. I think it'd be better because the the few reflects I think I think I think the chain has to be improved. You hope so. But it's all just relying on your power to all the time and you and you reach yeah Listen might not be enough and I proved futile fight for me. It wasn't enough so I think he's GonNa have to be a bit more structured in his work and does not read some not shoulder then I think there is slow at even these clever. I think while they might get him out. We'll see you wonder about with just the current heavyweight scene in general made it does seem to be quite a lot of forward planning going on the case we'll talk about how and how he was overlooking Ruis and and looking rivals performances. What was next to A? We all know what happened there with this. This three months reviewers was mooted for a long time. You'll resigned his top-ranked Dale to Pfizer. Walter almost went wrong against while in this fight they picked it up or announced it kind of just before before. Aj Ruis and then it finally confirmed at the end of the end of September now February twenty second date for the fight against fury. That's a thirteen week turnaround after this weekend. which causes suggests the like you? They don't really anticipate I suppose too. Many problems here can be very dangerous road to go down if if the val invite never showed shoulder what can happen a guy you should play with and beginning cuts tabloids and also chose shivers through is even a bigger example of. What can go wrong if you're if things don't go towards your structured plan so I it is? There's a lot of room for error and not a change in in the wind and I don't know how it was a contract so then I'm these times between people are signed that contract and then they get another fights so you you you is suspected zoom. We hope really to be honest. I while the few happens happens again. What if Joshua just blast release that around which is which is more than doable? I think and he wasn't quick funds and that could be maybe David Wilder and all of a sudden. He thinks. Actually don't WanNA fight feuding again. That might meditation in wrong. The truck rolling Joshua who might not be out but he's showing the verbal abuse himself after we use a small guy knocking him out. You might fancy that. But he didn't really. I didn't think that while the fancy the tomb while there's a tough guy we'll find anyone why didn't he massively infused but one of the image also to be honest I did. It didn't seem that way to me but yeah who knows breath heavyweight boxing boxing and then as heavily boxer it's almost like a spot and a life of its own. They just they ruled the roost. Do what they WANNA do so who knows they might go meet in. WWe never box again. All three of them well is that there's been some shots fired on on that front addio talking about the own. Say Well to last week and saying that give him a chance to take a franchise Belton duck daily white and Anthony Joshua do heartbeat. I think I think it was the quote we kind of have we heard enough of that by now. I mean it was back in full forever when they were trying to make not fight a while ago. Oh can you not want to make that fights. That's the problem it dragged on and everyone's bold only until if I sign that's not a good fight it it's for the provoked isn't a guys near the minivan. It's worth thank God. It's financially a huge fight to make of course if the the biggest if not a one of the biggest at least if deepest and for us. It's a fight about. They see the thing with wild crew disease every fight with most spicer him and excitement they might be scrappy in between the old guaranteed to annex. Because if he doesn't knock you out efficiently put you on your backside site so and he go knock you out if you WANNA see fights against people like like like Joshua will come at him because he has positives. Oh then I think it's a fantastic fight. Make US obsolete boxoffice. There's there's there's no doubt about that. I was with Davidson covering a fight over the weekend under. No He's going out and he's he's going out pretty much the whole fight wait to to have a good look at look at Louis Ortiz deontay wilder as well and Waldo reasonable. They expect expects come through that fine. Obviously elsewhere will not card. Lisa crews Fawzi Miguel floors for the WPA super world super super featherweight title on the Carden. This call bio-pics. I was just doing the notes for it. The other day and without wishing to conduct disrespect. Miguel L. Florez. Too much. He has done nothing to gain his. WBA ranking to fight for the title and this. It looks to me like career Santa Cruz. They just trying to get him a world title in another weight division here. He's stepped up by the white. Firstly hundred cancer should be the champion. Yes heaping Avocado Burma Koldo twice but he still regulate chump and he fights on the same night against run Alvarado but it has outlook doesn't it. He's very to sound securities but since he beat Frampton a bit like Gary Russell conical into cold storage a bit. There's a lot a ticket even though there's a lot of PVC fighters will being active but loyal to that group. They've massively loyal unsettled. WHO's one of those schedules? It's the biggest example of its. And why wouldn't you WanNa find your peak yet your good fighter. And he's being give gifts to the know. Nothings a gift you got. Beat them out in front of you but some of the Santa Cruz is quality quality. Pleasure this you would think. And this need nowadays draft jump through the weights if you can't make featherweight Dennis Fat. NFL move up to grab a title. How real is it? Is that a real genuine wolves being gifted it just to be called a new three wait. We'll four. What will chapman whatever you want to be? It's Connecticut prime example a normal gifted talented. He's absolutely watch is but no just moving. Weights defy title for titles against bringing fire downing ways. The sugar method sugarland. I'm a little beat. It Jordan fight is down in weight. Done it alone making making super middleweight. Light heavyweight fights. You've been tiles say it stat. But now it's gone crazy and just just focus on I don't even focus on the titles anymore. I just focus on the fights because it asks if all the politics that asa fantastic fights that have we made recently. It's still can be made and so we'll be made and I think we have to just focus on that. I think people around boxing all the time appear on all our lives like you andy we we get frustrated with with with the way things so spin out of control but if you just focus on the actual quality of the fights you enjoy it and that's show and then if anything ever is a newly restored faith in anything whatever whatever. I didn't even know it doesn't matter it was was just an opposite dream of watch and if I could pick one fights Lafayette for the rest of my life. Better be that one I think is a good way to look. Ah Pollsters while and that was absolutely terrific five and yeah I think looking at the map. Chops is the way to stay sane. Isn't it rather than worrying too much about these titles. Otherwise did you end up coming back in my day. All over the people we used as couldn't stand and back in my day all this. Just just enjoy this August organism and he was looking for the negatives design the most negative issued meat. So I always looking for the negatives are moldable anything I might moldable moaning and actually so badly. I'm but you just gotTa stay. That's a good fight. Is it for this. Last time. They said good fight and five. Focus on that. Everybody's been talking about what what fight. Callo Smith would take next season in action in Liverpool. On Saturday people were throwing around Canaan Canal and all sorts to meet cheap if all but as it happens what what ended up with John Rider which is a good domestic fight. Callum Smith of course it's going to be a heavy favourite defending champion. But you'll riders pay these Jews Chiefs East comeback from some some major setbacks and embarked on an incredible run starting with trenching knockout of Patrick Nielsen. And it's a good boxing story. Isn't it to see somebody color battle back from the brink. Really and he's got his chance now when he almost he doesn't belong there he does belong right but you know from a few years ago. You'd never see ready is now Sunni but this week is Korea middleweights super midway. ABC's I'll pick enough. I think that that hands though style I think at the highest level for him who he boxes an amateur shelter Colin Colin Dunn Esque. Type style talking to work for him. I didn't think honestly he lived a good fighter. But he's if you look at the winds east had against swings to be fair groves. There's much difference. I know you've got field in those fields. There's not much difference. It's A. It's an interesting for this massive favored. I can't see anything but but a Callum Smith win but I think people just think he's GonNa Walk Right through right is is made Steffi. Make make it interesting. McCallum disability could fights on that car to particularly the cruiserweight fight for the vacant Commonwealth title between Craig Governor. Chris Bill Smith because Craig got go to great win against Saba Vanilla last year and then it just went wrong own completely Liverpool in March. It was it was a ticket for that. Was the day regains fat club as our and he lost in and they couldn't believe it or so polite words afterwards and he said on these look great in the Jameh. Jim Mean. We just don't know what happened. So they call him a fighting in the wind since then because you just need that try to get that out of your mind as he just lost his last fight to be used. You still get good fighters Smith just ask fight and is that you get him at the time. It's been a lack of confidence. Possibly sometimes sometimes it doesn't affect fight loss and go straight back in full of confidence for sometimes they just questioned what used to work from so well not fights Conglo. Espn always enemies at home. All the pressures on the other guy and can he can he just he put it on and Ernie put pressure on making question. Himself and enough confidence will Jane. I don't know whether you can do it honestly. I think that's the angular that'd be looking at. I think Crispin Smith took a lot from that defeat against Rick. Pour it was. It was a split decision on the 'cause we felt that report on enough to to win the fight about Osama few weeks ago and up until that point he hasn't really been tested on the thank. You live fluid more in that fight and all these other fights combined any took some heavy shots because rape Polka Punch and I think it was one of those defeats defeats. While you definitely would have would have gained a lot from it do you think logically you look at it. You break it down like that but it's individuals so say I lose a fight. I don't lose confidence. I don't think I'm going to be a superstar for instance. Just say that if you think if I was telling you going to be the best thing ever. I don't know if that was his case. But if they do do and then you lose and the next big thing what's going on you question yourself some fighters you have to have that bring good vision. You just saying no one's GonNa be on my best on my given day though beaten. That's you have to think that way on. I have had that same idea on my best day and his worst win you you you have to have sent me not to draw from Sunday and some guy is false call. Boxes are false confidence both ways. What would you stay in some way? It's it's the tatum confidence scare you. But that doesn't affect the outcome of the fight off a wholesome and react to show people so you so sometimes you box keep Santa's house lives in a fight where you can win. I counted an aspect. Upsets and events occur but it depends how we react to it. And that's what I was trying to say if he's a kid who just spend this didn't really well. I took some good shots. There's a lot to take karate post-flood then he comes back with confidence. We'll see what is. Aw well another Pfizer. He's looking for for a big upset and could give a comfort advisor to confident fights foul go paintbox Gerald but then came back with wingate's broad rose he's got. Harry Scoff. Now we were talking about possibly looking to what's next to your own with regard to Waldo but with file a as we understand that if he gets the window entail rematch Scott Fitzgerald scarfs. An interesting one. I was talking on the phone. Yeah Diane's Triboa Clifton. Mitchell took himself off the Liverpool when when he was a student took to the Salisbury and and do university degree. He's the English champion and he was recruited as I defense for Jack flatly and the idea was the chuck funny with boxing home in Bolton unbeaten. Because that's what you do you don't give joy sensually. Do you think's going to win. But they underestimated him and he will not fight. He went awaiting that fight. So he's got that experience what you decide which coach buying Raider Tanzi Fowler necessarily. But he got real belief that he couldn't that you can do it again and then a confident fighter is dangerous because again I go back to my last point. You the confidence you build anything. And that's future to be honest that gives you these similar the arrogance you need to to step up and Nevelson so easy going in full confidence but he's not going against the same style as flatly. He's going to follow it with massively long arms then everybody you just mentioned. He has a massive wingspan so physically. Strong I don't think he's. He's a lot but I think the strengthening every shot he hits Mitchell. Whatever he hits you hurts and I think I know? So he's doing so. I lost a massive social media. That's all I think that. But even Nettie defends himself quite. Well I think he's such a guy as so much confidence that you'll take losses. I never read. It also made a mistake. It will never beat me. I beat myself. That's the way you'll see it so he'll come in now. We want to make a statement. I think I think scoffed is being really good but I just think that it might just be willing to walk through and I think the strength far might be the difference. Interesting Liverpool diabetes. While between tone foulland does at friend's house to they've known each other for a long time autzen eliminator for the for the British title may be kind of Alas role of the dice for MasterCard. I don't know that I haven't spoken to about it. But he's not a good career as a chief to lot. Thomas almost to himself came up short against against the horror. Horror that you basically just a good match ready dot stepping up to seep lightweight across crossroads vice may fifth thought it might be. This is bad I sign out amfar. It might be I if you don't still keep going. But where does he go now on a guy really at the end of his career you would think. I hope I'm wrong but you might think that does lose adult then. Does you have to go back down a few levels. And that's very difficult to do when you're not at the top and you have to go down and that was when you when you saw just below that domestic domestic level with the go down you know you go through area level and below and it's and then you boxing Goes and you drift away from the spots. So I think it's a real crossroads Astros for both and I do and it's a habit the pick I is having tickets I think new Farrell was nicer fighter. I think it boils also thought has left more than anything else I was thinking about the Diane and it reminds me a bit of dotes fight against Tom. Stalker in that. That's fine release. The more technically accomplished the two but but that was the case stalker stalkers fantastic technical Manage to in. He knew too much and he was. He was too strong for basically. But we'll see we'll see another really good fight on college. James Tennis indicates Craig Evans Fantastic on eliminating the British lightweight. Talk which which you want more about this to me. Joe Gordon is a British and Commonwealth lot Trumpian a spokesman CPA feather in Monaco. As I understand it it the recent you will see the white so I think they were hoping teen tennis. And certainly were vacated. This'll be for the title but it isn't but anyway this is. This is a good fight between two good old fashioned hard working and talented pros. So you don't necessarily Tennessee. We've plenty power to the we'll talk to the Evans has been permanently under the radar in a way He has reason. I really can't get fights. Me Waiting on the sideline for men's together scraps again. It's because Wales is because you can sell tickets and that's that's the bottom line is a good fighter to watch excited. He sells a few but I mean he doesn't doesn't across to promote build a piece of him. I think at the minute that's why I've asked. But he's a good fighter and he's understated djupedal anything with him. It's good as he is. He will give you an opportunity and they can similarly tennyson only needs his option especially early in the fights where mostly it's not going to to occur and I think you give you give them a chance to catch you and if you guys could Scoop Boxer South Ball Right Jab but he likes to fight symtoms. Jim Tattoo comes at you and can be aggressive and those who Gavin Rees Punchy morning bunches as well and I think it's how he he exits after he shows his shots will be whether you can keep tennyson tune and not be able to speak for the power I think Craig Evans contains rings around him but if he holds closes feet long. Interestingly the last fight against Atif Shafique Tennyson. That's that's Kinda will happen because a good move iphone to be honest. I just watch that fight and see what's going to happen. But he he was looking good in that fight and then he just kind of held his feet and started to try to turn out great where the gate smarter. Jay Ward Nicole fantastic performance. Tell me Fox News too much was there was no shave me now. It's just a car that around interesting. It's horrible to say it's the end. The CAZ is so intriguing. It's more than she can to me. It's just a pill box than the solid to build a good fight. Live the domestic fight fight but at the end cats real even matches makes makes a real good night's work certainly does certainly does right. Well we've I've got through all of that so the jewelries are quite a promise but it's not very far away. This is getting so photos taken up in the ring. A little bit of pod. Work is open workout lookout. Day as well as the everybody's just billing around with interesting what you around each other at this time. There's no real tension because you don't know who you're fighting yet but as I said as we saw last time that that quickly changes when they have to switch into it's a fight mode almost to make those selections so we'll catch up with you with you after the draw. Aw I will grab a quick word with with the fighters and have a quick chat about those matchups so you rejoin us up to the drawers just been made up in the main ring. The reps and boxing clever way to our left hand side and the rates as follows guessing Lewis Benson Monkey Sack K.. Pick Tara with Kenna. The hammer mood picked Darren surtees and Logan Union. He joins US now. Well he pulled that one of the pupils so he got to choose but he pulled out legal number four. which meant that by the time not came around the only had one possible opponent remaining which is a horror Davis love and we had a a a quick earlier on? And it's it's fact that for the British fighters involved in this. Certainly they struggle to find out much about you because I I did hear that you take an old videos of your fights. It's off line. Do that homework. Yeah he's all day was on I really want one person's idea for my my team. Just it's something we just came to all of our minds we just somethin' WANNA stay under the radar. Don't want nobody getting any footage on us but obviously after this tournament this fight. There's GonNa be footage but up until up until now. Obviously we've done a good job of staying hidden away so nobody Erica. Study US just sit in a little bit. Then I'll give a few details could Amazon UK's UB or and the amateurs of your books your Stevenson Devon values while Devon Haney haven't had the chance maybe at some point to turn seventeen so young still only twenty world old from Hawaii which actually turned twenty one on the twenty four twenty four birthday tomorrow so we're not too far away from each other up until was putting your career sixteen and I'll just just tell people about yourself Often to this point is just been a rollercoaster ride From the start going to Mexico fighting up to three times in one week at one point and Coming back finally turn eighteen dollars legal to fight in the states states in the US and we took on some big good fight tonight and we won obviously an adequate Chanson we actually actually got the W Wbo NATO you title when our zone thirteen. or No. I believe I fought Carlos. Oh God and Home ever since then we've just been training hard and staying undiscovered so nobody can study us in we're just training hard Keeping her head down staying in the gym. Does this feel like the again the way the Saturday is all in the same room together brings back that amateur atmosphere and away coming into the tournament. So you know you got guys in your bracket you don't know who you're GONNA get see. I was interested in brought back memories. So what about Davis which you know about him I know he's a power puncher and He's got a good style is a great fighter of course from from the UK. And I'm just all I can say is. I'm excited to get the chance as the fighting. It's how did they invitation to this. Told them come about that not to completely sure I'm just all I know is that Oh my manager. Henry revolted found out about this tournament. Came across it and put my name in spoke to the director and we met the requirements wants to be accepted in just and the rest of sister. We'll get to see it was interesting. It was interesting climax for you really to get blue bull number four because even though you gotTa Blue Pool and you get to pick you. Also don't get so it was taken out of your hands. You didn't have any decision to make. But does that matter to you. Really whether you you get to pick up on those depict preferences Solo. I was really may more hope. Now get a red okay but even me getting the last blue ball is basically getting so either way it worked out great. Thanks for your song. We'll let you go. Thank you and we'll see during the week this this press conference tomorrow tomorrow on the first day and nights on Friday night at your call which is a story a story you'll into to actually Repton is probably the most famous among the country from the locals. You'll call these Mike Spike in British boxing. So good to see. That's the lot coping apiece. Stay stay and final Pricey Took over nicely for the next few days Tari McKenna. I think he's just looking that we tyrod right. So you've got a red bull so you selected pointedly made you his made you his pick. So what did you make. COVI- said he wants an accident fate on Mr Helmets. I bring excitement. And that's exactly what's going to happen very it'll it'll be a good fit. I'm excited the belt on the lane. so yeah I'm pretty happy I plus you'll WBZ international here that you will in your last star Foley and you mentioned you. You'll be an exciting fights that you generally are something that Barry was talking about earlier on which is good kary ability. Generally speaking he was not to use it now. One hundred percent. I think that's seem when I was growing up. I was always a small kid in the in the in the class and then box and stuff so I scrapped and learn the fate and one summer disagree disease food. I'm having left being a small mom and big monthly so I still get 'em still have loved her ups and Faith and love accede and people People pay a lot of money. Move and watch and I want you said you. Happy with the pick. Your face doesn't say that doesn't must face really wanted this. The Saddle To actually isn't it. 'cause I know you any pants they will but I actually make a really nice guy but Coming in freighting it will be a different different feeling towards him and I I'm ready for for what every brings the table but I'm I'm exam I am happy with with you've got Believe a compromise. Hopefully we'll leave it in one a little older today. That won't it's a different kind of atmosphere. That makes four really. We were talking about it earlier earlier. Everything's quiet relaxed friendly and then when you get in there and all of a sudden selections a made everything everything changes so it's different. It's different to fight. Wait wait for not point of views and totally I haven't even been looking forward fade. The whole company has not been looking for to have been looking forward to Tuesday to fascinate whom Faden aiden better nerves in your belly. Like it's like Christmas. You're getting tons of this year when the when the draws get mad and stuff on WHO's GonNa pick who the WHO may say showed that he blazing by picking me. So he's he's confident going into. I'm very comfortable. She make for good and it gives you a focus. Isn't it for the first time. Now you know look attack Ah properly break down and think what goes wrong So you have a more settled before deaden until until it got got more was now but but how relaxed I mean you have too much time now to the conduct work on things if you go to choose to anyway with yourself yourself in Donnybrook. What's interesting Vargas the Monkey? He's he's chosen to six foot one South Pole. So why would you. How to talk to six foot? One southbound. How many of them would you ever watch before? He's maybe how in his mind if he had the opportunity he would pick tyrone and maybe they were doing it but it worked. We southpaws because if I have a nine I mean is appalled choice Listrik also imagine you being there not knowing who you're going to pick especially because they've come late into it like Sacchi incurring Gadston and just go in look into going. Are you a real conscious choice to pick a board in those only Manohar Davis left really he. Sparta Harvey's a lot. They said it's not really an exciting spars. We don't really want to be on. TV okay. I'm not being saved nuts. Way Back me and to be fair to me. Is that so far away. Evil Uh he likes to be advised to get involved. Yeah so you have heard rumor that y'all study since WANNA watch I've washed out of him and he does isn't isn't the On a believe our state will Jaylen on will make a good good fade fade alternate source fight when he beats heroes go. You'll be labeled Horsey was he was. He was down on the cards. I'll also and pulled it out of the fallen around and I remember seeing nine still working. That really been able to go fulltime all as much into into boxing as you wanted to be. You could see there was some there was some ability lies so it's a good fight. It's a good good fight. We'll be sending the rest of the week and end always entertaining tightening. So I could look around Lewis. Let me come in and have a quick chat. So you were picked. First Right Outta the GATEWOOD and you fly Karen by Karen guessing. Yes so that's interesting. Because he gets pulled number one and he could pick anyone and he's go four people in front of it and he chose you is does that wings you told him as David McKenna there and don such a good fair so while of me. I think it's worked really well because the bank face can come in Santa Fe new. I believe so you you you comfort any of that because he was delayed entry that he yeah Boston. You're picking you. You're happy that than training so I'm not hanging not because rose is mashing me after fainting before can get together menu for each so. I know he's up for us. Oh you over. The phone says we're also good. So what does the rest so the week cold. Obviously we got the press conference and the way down here with with Joe Harm and you tried Joe Senior will come down and join you. I mean it's just a case of will you do any work with particular reference to him and his daughter is just like am to be honest odometer. So I've had the experience of these. These fates feed phase on this is proof proof for these failures Russians on like treaties noise as so you believe from self and I believe I can do it and stay on the semi-finals did you have a fight. That remind aww today any particular preference over was Har Har a it would have been evacuated picked. Blue one would have been given and okay. Yeah I'm or a hang my hatred of a a Gif. NBA Hat with his head. Because of the closure I couldn't stand there and look coming seal the finger of seat Peckham so I would have stood that I would have fight mechanics which was fantastic five. What happened this MFA? No yes so Brian. I'm over them. And so the take care business. Marsha I'm sure well so what I want to know as will and did she come down south with your bags stuffed with Lewis Benson ready meals because What people may not know is that Lewis? Pension is GonNa Zyppah entrepreneur as a fully-fledged entrepreneur with his with his ready meal business. Unfortunately have not but hopefully my could bring visited some because he's got plenty of NOCCO news over always little McCallum Friday. Yes my business. Name Away Helps Fund David Food Team Boca. Aw That's brilliant. Okay thanks very much. Thank you for joining us. We'll bring in your opponent not Shelly. Why not let's it's got Both sides of the site matchup caring. I think so amazingly in or you picked out blue pool number one and you're joking with US sick. Why did I get that now? Out of picking in the real thing and then second time around you destroy out again those four fighters in front of you. You heard Lewis Benson Torah mckellar. Your Currency Ohara Davis and you went fluish Benson focus throughout one Lewis. Someone have looked up to a little bit from the the time because he was a little bit older than me in energy bt obvious touring Wales as well and Yeah he said it's a fight. I wanted anyway. We spoke on twitter a couple times. By if we can get about George fanciest fight and quite friendly illness you I'm gonNA show an even coming. The tournament was saying he was giving updates about the inside workings of the tournament that he was GonNa get in and all that so. It's it's it's one that I've been looking for Annette full. I shall may get better mango fed the WBZ belt which is a dream of mine. One of those is McKenna. O'Hara the Laura Benson ended up in. I think it's just a development fight at this time as well. It's not easy when you're the one who's got first choice. I wouldn't imagine info for the regions. You just you just outlined that because what you do is that whoever you do pick three other people you could have picked so that person can be under no illusions and do you think that they are the worst Pfizer boastful. I don't think I think he probably knows that. Icy Myself on a similar laboratory. And I think that's it's probably what I can accept the hope. That's why today so I don't think he's about vital. Did you know you're going to pick him up just before when that was history today said would you pick it for fish. said I picked Pinson After McKenna so at the choice for them events it's full octave yourself in a marquee sake. and which sold on the same for Lewis because he came in Frankie Muniz Brown a few weeks out but the last I wake must've been must have been quite. Well how has it been. I was GONNA say must've been quite intense because no you in the reserve power. Mikey was the first reserve. We won't pull out so he puts promoted. Then you have another one and all of a sudden you ring strangers assignments you can ask anyone to buy these coaches or whatever I just said it feels feels like I'm I'm doing some minutes feels like I'm going into it. I didn't even always like food all never for SAC until I wouldn't go into the tournament. Start Start Training for Schilling on twenty second since been canceled and before we then Training for the Last week the news I mean the main tournaments This really few this. Should you break out because this is the first so fabulous on the radio and this is like a breakout the big platform Listen at three ten fights and they've been good ten. Run by foreign tally twice. So I feel like compacts national level now when this is for me this massive. This is main event sky-high every young boxers dream and funny Selena today. Three years to the day. I'm OFFICD professional fight and I'm one two three while style fights one Welsh fight the two of one now main event on sky absolutely unreal. Well who knows. Maybe it's written these incompetent boxing. They do happen so good to see you this week. We'll just show I think by pulling in the JV. John Tool was interesting as to if you get the chance check it out online because not only would it interesting it was very professionally conducted by two extremely handsome meant by Jones. was He involved. He was not involved. I'll be quick to point now so let's have a look at this and interesting fights in that Logan Unity so horrid Davis I think is probably winks at may even though eating get to choose oh horror because that was all all that was left by the time he got there. But Logan. We've just been talking to. It's difficult for anybody else to find out too much about him and that's been fairly liberal. Uh on his part on his father's part yeah. I spoke with him this morning at breakfast. They've been in London for three weeks. I think two and a half weeks very confident in front they came over on their own. CLAMMY taste get used to the environment so that means that they're putting a lot of investment in Logan in this competition what he brings it here but I don't think anyone knows i. I think when before the tournament start Paul Gibson how few clips Henry is is His Management Team David Ones who were pushing firm they also have cars so it was like it was built up in Florida. Ray of the bottom push from a lot. What we didn't really get to see much until he sends a bit but what he brings it? He'll against an harder. Davis is GONNA be strange against a lesser-known opponent typical. Okay but he's he's fate and probably the most recognizable name in the in the tournament which originally trick and the Saudis as well because you see them together there and the back of a Howard Davis Republican for absolutely huge and Logan up the smallest guy. He's been dwarfed really. Did one one thirty nine pounds this morning. Mix with very easy. Small has a big back in big shoulders back big shoulders Spoke to his father. Bird has hates his his father. The head of a mechanic Davis he said he's beat guys who've been six feet one previously in Florida Penrhyn bills and in Florida and hard rock cafe report. It's the unknown. Yeah I think I think the way. The tournament setup at sat up for fascinating semifinals in terms of the guys who we all know the recognizable names are on one side of the draw. There come through their schedule boats on Freddie but but etc perfectly for an interest in the quarterfinal won the standard obviously local news on the fate at the heart of the punt the main villain and everyone's is also in many ways with avenue information on Luga and in the in the past. You know you can't go you can't hang his head forever. Never been in the past Davis show in mental frisbee mental. Frailty me immensely not knowing about this opponents. Could this close to a fight Kuku panic but it could be our could not could not be the mental sake. Yes is it. He gets sake do over ten twelve weeks are as it lasting kapoor not really gonNA do exactly what were fields are fields mentally and his build. Some she's gotTa Chuck's the father of new fight didn't go part of the few failures. He preferred not to look at anybody. Not The new who really just want to get in because only over the process and some as you say over obsessed but it's it's interesting there's so many different and characters in this division compared to the twenty six th division. Yes we didn't have the Qena the standard character so you have the by the guy who is painted. Obviously as hard mechanics got like a cult following from Ireland. Logan Union is the unknown. No one knows he really is Mohammed. Moon Moon has mixed at a higher level. The most these guys are and then you have the replacements the replacements and get the way they are getting the choices and also this interlocking because Kim was meant to fight back off. She hired. Howard Davis with Poland? The Cana Hannah's books Benson really close fight. So there's a lot of a lot of definitely nasty made internal rave as you said. Naturally I think gathered and Sacchi face each other on this and the kitten picks up its stuff exact leaf leaf. That's exactly what happened to your Mimouni interested me as well. Because when he called a wonderful wit there were still three people left to to pick from so there was Tara McKenna. China and Davis each January. Just didn't really seem like a cat. Atoll Naga said to me you could pick one of these three D.. Just kind of wiped his pointed his finger. I think I think he picked the guy. Didn't know that's what I think is new new less off. I think that's what he's done. which the writers you do you do not show? You've seen him machine too because people tend to think if you had a more recognizable name petrified that this is not always the case of course but that's tends to be especially nowadays modern and psyche. If if you well no you must be good. And that's probably why. Ohio Davis carries more weight on his shoulders. Because he is whether you like. He's the biggest name. He's the the biggest name but as you say he's technically not the best fater no no Aena but when you touch that in this social media digital age we we see what we see we we attached to be. You know you're GonNa come and tell me. Paul and CASS. Arum isn't because you've seen them. They're too weak. But we're not another one to his which which threw up something interesting which we just mentioned to Tara. McConnell is Marquee Sake picking him and what what interests me about that is that you can have an Mike data for you might pick before you go into this but it's all a bit pointless really because you don't know which color pull yoga. You're talking to hope he laughed. But if you consciously decide you look a few people and you think I'll have to six foot one south pole please. Not many people would do that now and he had the second pick because we also we had a choice. Have you ever really wanted the sixth one. So who's GONNA come out of a lot. You must see something. We must see some they can exploit might be the fact fact that he's a six foot six foot south bowl but comes back. You gives away that range quite often. We before a few times already knew he he can box McKenna lives the fight so much said he'll give away advantages to head up. Maybe that's well sake is is planning on a hopeful. We'll sake he had a fantastic against sorrows go similar in a way of being aggressive and nonstop comment on but I thought he was. Losing the fate open tele point recover enough. Used any didn't work out so he is probably send themselves. I've been in this situation before. The the mental saver fater we all can't really content than the nitty gritty and say. Do you really want to be in opposition again going to be able to pull it in the bag again. Do you think you've learned enough from this. Fate can't pick someone like this so it's very interesting I know so he can. We know expectation on his shoulders. That's all know this. Bill is no exception to probably get to the wrong let alone win the tournament and that can be such a plus us because Peter. Peter could five win. There's no expectation on your show. You just go go in a ring to your best known expected you anything and an asset. That's also huge rate of shoulders. You're is like fighting for the big crowds buy tickets. They think you're GONNA win. Your friends don't know you think you'RE GONNA win pressure being being a favourite consume. I'm so consume you. Each up on the interesting thing is while this is the stoppage bonus obey implies again and Flosi diagnoses diagnoses. Five thousand pounds. If you managed to win by stoppage in the in the quarter-finals. Stand up bit of a role on the adult nephew to second time time as complete the hat trick in the final but also may not know Jamie Colin Funds. Lockout by expensive for you with the featherweight Susan. It was I issues coke down but when you see and and Lee would straightaway the five the firebrand knock opponents going on something for their family something for her kids. Yeah and you go to yourself. Well this is what we're all. This is what everyone is doing it for you. They've never really say when I win this faith I want to build something for my daughter or whatever different but when one that actually five we say political ask for my kids or whatever so great. It's a good incentive and it did did this job because those fights were so maybe you want to win the fight you want to get to the next round but you would do that just to get the next so you really. If you're clever possibly would but with Melissa. It's prize fighting for that. Actually did the job really. Well the legs of Ken Gethin Maki Sacchi accessible. They would never really earned the big number. An extra five grand to face will be a lot. Gassing comes forward and throws poems anyway so it'll be interesting without we'd be extra space on the lame see much stoppages. I'm not sure actually not sure it was very hard to Kane a pick Benson's from from whole promotional save point of view. You're going to coast to coast. I don't Sir I don't see blowouts because this distance and I think some of these guys lack of experience of the federal tax. I think they will go to. I always forget doing tim. Room to cut us. Cut is the way the tournament set up the whole field of the Amazon experience. The way they just they meet no here. Yeah and I think they'll just go too fast. 'CAUSE YOU WANNA get to the next round like you would in a normal tournament knocking on leave the reserve so I think that some some guys down the stretch might might really fatigue. Elton think you see a few. You better get to the bank jumping pants. I think you're I think there's a complete aac different dynamic in this evasion down one twenty six one twenty six as we said before they they'll championship fight. There's all of the borough ace eight failures each each team. Could it took a different route pretty easily whereas on this sade allow them have lost a lot of them have lost that Cain of home mm fader so they're all have less to lose just win and just leave it all their lack of experience at the the big fight feel some of these some of it but some of them have it than not is again. You'll just go like a steam train. 'cause you just want to win every you can you'd rather be six rows ahead and tied on the straits then be six rows behind a bit in. You know what I mean you look at it so I think it'd be. I think the speed will mean that. They'll outfit excitement. But also I feel we'll be taking your pocket dammit. Okay well it is going to be great. Night or Friday. featherweights was was tremendous shoulder. CPA The plot white sauce deliver at your call as well so jamie thanks. Thanks for your time. We'll see th remainder of the week. Okay well wraps it up for today. Barry this enormous ah for I hope we can. We can extend this loan deal and do this again. Because it's been fantastic and you'll pay the fights on on Friday by we know it's work is it is work okay. Well I'll tell you where I work but I'll be I'll be eligible recall it because in France I wanted to be ringside with a chocolate view. Anything just for that alone could divide. Well yeah erupted off today. I hope you've enjoyed it all the action from the drawer if you could get onto all teams and and give us a write in Rochester Review. When all those kinds of things as usual that we request that would be great and ads? We will be back again soon.

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Kell Brook joins Barry Jones & Gary Logan after KO win

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

57:31 min | 8 months ago

Kell Brook joins Barry Jones & Gary Logan after KO win

"Hi I'm Debbie Jay Haney and you're listening to toe to toe podcasts. Hello and welcome to Toke to a boxing. Poke has crusade skysports. I suppose I'm Barry Jones and this week I'm joined by the special on himself former. IBM welterweight champion of the World Cowbridge. Welcome cow let's see you make me also joined the that wasn't enough boxer to entrain gary the Shogun Logan naming alone on style. You sat down as well so this August thirties. I I look at Jamie Jamie is. I'll be honest with you right. James being one of my inspirations Jamie to know that I'm serious I don't eight can only congratulate Los Los Angeles Jamie said is about for instant. That's how most about four in four big and fat for what we give away the region where here Coz cal Saturday night. Good to be back great to be back. I've missed it. I have missed it. Both of the filming. Yeah feel I feel great you know about a year off Just seeing seeing Sheffield Philip again. You know seeing looking round all of the lies the gospels. The the nervousness missed the cut line reactions adrenaline. You know everything all into one. And this time in our new they could be could be the last time out there Rena in Sheffield and the fare free now and I think you know I'm I'm I'm flying I I've got. I've got to take every parties more because when I'm when when I'm an old man I'm talking to the grandkids. You know dot feeling you need. You need to start feeding relevant. Now you said about it was packed out and it when you train for just worry about the fight of course but you've been there before we see that officer time now people wouldn't turn up. Yeah did not to the extent that they did you know when when when when I went to press conference enough for immediate founder of the time off work wherever to come out and I think you now for a year and a half I you know the founder Still Lila's still value. You know it took me on while which is not a given ought to be honest. Because you know we're not talking about boxes can be the people the spotlight the limelight and you can be less than a shelf. You know yesterday asked what yesterday's chip chip chip. You know where it's like the convertible you not flavor forgotten by some of these fires now gayle these kind of as yet. We remember like they've retired and they're doing their thing in life. And where where. Where the current fires are? You know the first you. Yeah No. That's especially because Bacher boxing's having so much success. It's this instantaneous. In the guy you close in the next day is a new champion. Our new a new superstar a YouTube. We just forget things. Oh yes but we do live in era where he guys guys get easily gotten on and Kale's at a great career and Yeah we'll continue big things. So what was that forty like out different things go through that I think the main thing is I found myself in that time. I was thinking you realize you know When you when our world oh champion you know honestly the messages I don't even know of the non even know all of the numbers what we're on their phone calls and the power on the bikes when you lose you? You've got no but you know realizing this is like I said even starting tonight a brilliant as it was. I can't wait to get all of the A- An Indian with a family and stuff to lie thinking wait to see my kids get just be busy guy. He's giving backers of You I'm not. I'm not into all that. The after party discount different place in my life on the show. This person telling you in for a reason and the last chapter macree Omni give it my all. You have to learn as not just in the box human beings to learn and you learn from your mistakes or you learn from the things that you misspelled or you didn't do and I think that's what look good in in in Saturday night's performance was you looked prepared where you auden In the past as good as you and you having good let's be honest. You sometimes looked as if holding stuff back worry that you're going to get out and he didn't balk like this new bus control but they look like every time you see the staff that you wanted to go straight to work in the later on. Saddam was different calibration seven rounds into but like I said if if you analyze that and see me go back to the corner. These noah panicked is not. I'm not breathing. I'm not breathing ever like you know because I knew the I didn't after reserve any shots. I knew the ACA Anderson join me itself because I don't I'd left it. I left it all in the gym but I don all the word and I've been out the way that long I'm I'm actually sparring and training and the weight you know I knew the new the outgoing the box takes a new. That didn't need to worry about that what it was important. That was it the fact that the actual training for the times when. You're not trained. Kudos for most boxers Gary as well. It's not so no real trade hats but in between those gaps and you don't train is when you really to revoke than Jim by living a bad life when your way back to that and I think the fight days get partnered with ten twelve week bit wait rely stone stone the way from five hundred and then you've got game fit in the way and everything else but we're may you didn't want that training come to end and they went up to Sheffield in the show you in the gym and you just looked happy my copulated because asking me if we can just ten minutes longer thinking by by Edano never lied issue. I'm not familiar with the money. You know I'm happy and appeased. He is the dangerous fire. And you will discipline now at home as well or not. I know we Utah yet and everything about me. Even the MRIS CON con get flagged. Glad you guys go to vate case when you're in camp only family. Yeah this one is being is being unbelievable. It's one it's like every morning we we are the time determined training. I'm taking my kids to school. Giving them kissing lives. I'm busy and already before. Then I'm GonNa Jim and giving it meal and I'm not making way it so I'm a nice meal to replace me so then I'm having to lay down and the arrest that I'm queen by containing again are smiling laughing in your kid all day long and the GM infections everybody else is on that saw the trading companies as being lie did loved. It loved me buying in the gym. Jim and lighters raising the bar for everyone. And isn't it funny that you get so many is that the coach feels in due to only train that fire because he's so on precious on his own any special time and dominant is opening. said that if you want to be part of the England camp partner leads you feet of each other and I think pink networks. Because I've tried that we fires thinking Oh he's precious you've got people in let me training zone. And then he comes back to free months later and he says who knows just you know Amateur you train team. 'CAUSE y'all got the same fight dates especially the change because he's different fights but the train it on Colombian I talk about this talk about me now for change. Every week southbound from training as the group an amateur professional sprint Mr all my career is I made the adjustment but it was hard because you see 'cause you become a fit you train. The helps because he does you become fighter by watching fighters invested a new view. And and I guess you've had that could obviously now's and Johnny Nelson Listen and junior witter. Obviously you wanted to get ready. And you've got your people look up to as well and life that when when I'm watching them and seeing and That you know obviously that's why I wanted to. I knew that that's why I needed to do to be world champion level. So yeah we're so. That's what I mean light separates the planes Newark. If I'm playing one terrible sample play runner for a few frames. Plants went off a lot better. You know you you plane the single as the Andy Capp pro golf last week. I asked a shy am I am normally I'm I'm crapping at. The family. Hate the cause and last week a feeling of course because they're playing with a single handicapper game was on pine because over a single hand rubs off so yes of course yes now. You're the leader. You're rubbing off on them but still rubbing off a new man. I'm obviously pushing myself. WanNa yes I'm pushing even Oughta and with me I wanNA beat myself self. I don't need someone that stage where I don't need someone who's pushy guy pushing myself was till I'm till I'm Diane especially with his work in the gym Mohsen also noticeable you forget what the factual fight to build to the fight. You haven't always seemed to be in love with the build of defaults but this time you were very engaging like if you wanted to speak to people you enjoy all these press conferences and and not look. It's not like is that because you've fallen over the sport again fire in the belly and I'm just want to give myself self in every way token by performing box in I'm there you know before of not being many show I wanna I wanna I wanna go to the show on a sit ringside and watch it if you look back on big five. I've never they're never have to be there when you first I wanna I WANNA put myself up for this. Last chapter give give the funds myself in every in every way they want one from Scott. You've been Scott all day to day deluge of stuff but the the caliber old. Not The CAL will be careful to say. I mean reaching distance to me but with a by the time I was. They've got to do in the podcast. In the afternoon. You would have been a flat and had enough but you seem fully follow a different guy. Different guy all day long. I gough by the emissions. Can't believe you know what you are the embodiment of you know. We're not go wherever Lagos. Gary you re smarter teach books in for a living alto mom. When I was very young boxing would be leaving and I love doing? I don't do it because I have have to do it. I don't do you see a coach is now put Jeb Day. Put One on at. She loved me and my clients. I Love Trading Fires Action is the PAT is my passion Russian. Could not be anything else. And this was so fortunate to be in this room sending you can't talk about our passion and do passion is sending you can explain the people who were not involved survive from some people who haven't got passion. Some people don't box involved inbox major. That they they have the same fee them for we have still fighting but the they they have that. Because it's a weird. It's a strange vindictive but also also it's almost mesmerizing. It's it's not a witch in the same breath bill with so many heartaches that the joys you've had and the so you've had cal decree you've got this and you're not finished yet the career you've had and I was going to say about the change in in in your careers. Well obviously you know what was it like. We'll be back with dominant because you took a fight with John Future of your friend yours you you knew but obviously that Mormon with a two fave Macri. That's why I needed to do. Because the barrier build your finding Canada different times Nicaraguans were fired at the time. will it land Williams Willie Hutchinson so so you had before you leave guy come to before it were meal whether the top dog just about me because when I got Barry Deal Reminder of course I you know. I've kept afloat for for many years. These guys are coming along and he already ally put his name forward to train these for these five in the and he can't really do anything with me for our took myself away from the situation to February Korea. I want me jump Fuchs and a great trainer by the way you know I think and like I said the Boogeyman the fire. The VARA because he will. I defy after about heard and being as tall long action. Camin as lights trying to appoint many fighter in that. But we're over that we've got a great win before we're only glue. There's lots fi I dealt with it. Got Dealt with a guy that dealt with him. I think we should have a lovely patients but the jump those things without me any any. He's like crazy about one of the best jobs in boxing. And you don't use it enough. Exactly one of the best on the US jabs. They do like I said it's all about making no within. Now we're back in the invited three or four sessions this week already already thought. That's what I mean. I I want to talk about the job. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA do for round after round. Is this us that job stopping the job out more music Because look at the time and we came out with ABC it. Did you feel very go. Did you anytime before for free. At one. Point Down Paninis. He Still Tofu who's still looking to China and Brazil. Come in you know but Chipping away and then after every round theme is starting to smile at him smiling each of playing the Games and I could see round around I would you and it will. It will come in. It was coming you know and I I wear looking for all the way through to make my point to make the sensation performance. Perform maybe a bit too much but in the end the time with the cable see I think I think because I think you've the struggling for weight. Cal would have don familiar 'cause not wanting to go later but no you team comfortable that two ways in it you have goat is like even even if you if you know. When you're not under percent for Eva go bulls at the star or you said your back by Don so but either way oh you know? You're not Kale said. Yeah this one you punches look sharp but heavy and that's what I liked about your jab the JEB busted him up yeah not just not down. There was Paul is year round. And you know it's we all want a sensational knockout. When we fought as well as it did they will highlight? Reel the Javanese chemo but your stage your career and and the name you know of course you Win Wasn't good enough. You had to have finished our retire- our scrapes and go in convincing out of still said No. Oh don't because obviously if I'm putting this bar this to this level and I'm going to be a two-time champion I need to be knocking guidelines which I don't World Rent Guard will run guy who military guy you need to be a series guy to even get into the marine to gain. In America Kinney was long arms big Guy Big Byron potentially awkward if you give them an opportunity because he swallow punches angles yet. You move the next fight. Now this is. This is a name. Names will be mentioned all day. And they're going to be continuing to mention to you first of all he does Ringside Liam Smith obviously asking asking for not asking you mentioned you. Hit would be a good a good test for each other and former world champion. Liam Smith Chapman yourself looking to get back on. Is that if I die interest you it does. I've been showing the card I you know. I'm after stars wiltel about you know and I don't think he passed the test. Got In star ease being being in Mexico fi in this is it's been emf for have not been meaningful. You know being taken long. He needs. He's me I I'm the beginning. I'm you know it's one of them. It's it's one of them you know. And he's analyzing means to fly this. I think you should keep that to polls on the live in the light the new mayor. And what I've gotten gone. You know when you get in that when you get in there with me as a different ballgame. This is a different fish. You know because I it's not like I I can learn them shows in from the first onto the twelve round. I might be losing eight and are known for Not Power Walking Guy Jail. You know as well as one on this job what we've been talking about a false. I'm coming is is because the point. The domestic violence is what you're saying you know he's lie. I I wanted yet. They get my main thing is for me to become a two time world champion. Find Him. He's not a champion is not like but the good is a good word of the role. So what about the guy who's like literally almost you could be a couple that you'd be mentioned together so often it's account because he's a big name being through all so we can into its massive figures wherever it goes is is our fight that interests you know we will. We are in a few good few. Could both of as the biggest biggest personally earned in this career is well. Don't forget that but he's got the star is got we've got got extra. We've got many things we get asked by a fire in every every thing that crossed eras. Orissa's that's what we need to remember as well. This is such a juicy fight. This Smith want is a great trade fight yet. That guy calm fight fight is juicy. It's got so much history. 'cause you guys have crossed eras. Yeah we know he was he was winning. Silverado was silver medal in two thousand awesome. So you guys have been Snyder spent years on. If we even with with Oprah more you know like light we had big to spread big pages spreading the boxy news being you know about going their separate ways but eventually me with Komo and I will I will more eighteen years old. You're old now craziness. we're not beating. Might he is crazy cheap. You can see whether we can see by the British public. You see with the new fans who don't know the history we will not fight. Anybody could the two big names. Why boxes over go melanie? And gatty will. The Old Gatti's Alderman just ten years younger. But we want it because we've seen you together. There's no we've seen the booth Roy's Superstars People Boondoggle tells me successful so it's We've also we've all gone off on on great domestic clashes no stadium fillers and and we feel like these that one sells you know. Normally your salad come down to London and doing sales any Nova Stadium. I'll eat seconds. Yeah you know as much as we've told to buy the fish we were fighting believe you mere the patron believe it but what about the new wait here obviously super welterweight or you box that fight attached. If that's what you stay or no you may think you could still or you show. You can still make welterweight actually. Let's go let's touch Anna. Do you think you'll boxing welterweight or just. ooh happy where you are now. You probably look. Don't go near that welterweight. You look fantastic. But I've never been this person before I've never seen this lie. You know our our like five or six pound lighter when I will make you well two way. I used to go five or six pallets than did on Saturday night and now we're at light. Middleweight Super Welterweight worlds away. So if I didn't even take the cobs out and if I would've took cobb I'm really really thought about what I'm eating stuff fight. We would have been and I would have been able to mate with ease. Would you be nephews were. I won't be ended up. Only I got an email from your phone your messier. There's no mention of all the way to get in because new beautiful radio you up in an era away like we did. If you don't struggle to make wait wait so fast that's almost instills knew him anyway. So the fact that you come in a bit light might be because the we the people trained now in the food you eat or so fuel now fuel is day so it might be petted few actually that you had a few potent there but you're still strong if you could you. Could you could physically make welterweight but will you have few in being and told that I could buy military but the question physically. You look like you held him off here and he's he's installment midway. You could just see every than me on the same so maybe it's always about being the MVP sometimes been liable helped me on. I've got not density identity your memo fibers anyway lights on your fee as well can also one of them and then he comes through uh-huh so light heavyweight champion the free and he has been he keeps speed athleticism. And also your time Becker and carry on and I've got the power. Our bottom line is I've got the power from welterweight. I can go super in a way kind of power. Believe it or not so as long as you lie accuracy. Power there you you can go. I'm not like I'm a small five foot. Nine light middleweight. I can dance with them all and also when you when you when you fits and you're freshly you. Were there go full of energy your time because you know you'll know if you're familiar. Timing is what makes what makes you for me and your timing when you're tired or you. Oh you're fatigued. That's the first thing I suffered for me. And it was time inside. They was very it was really good. Yeah it was throat that's less important throughout so we've discussed this as accountable. Calkins Super Welterweight Division speaking. Who'd you like the champions? They're residing just obviously beats. Just just look at Sarah. Just let you bid is a good but but like say. The bell is being swapped about lying musical chance. Sarah's one of those guys right if you stood in front of him and just a little bit close to him he honey. Can you hunt if I may have to wait. I'm the best counter. Put moves that he would panic compund just he just snapped she lets his hands go but that would B.'s. On doing so I I is causing very great dumped upon and that that's the number three. WBZ's said you would be number three in the WTO Abo the number two already. There obviously could be boxes super bowl too if you had to fight him unlimited. Would you do that. Oh doing who initiated. You think you'd be on the state. There's no incumbent stickney names some street so you can shoot me and we anyone anyone you know a lot can be on them all. You know that you're going to see an amazing fire. Do I need to be proved. Do I need a final eliminator trip in the in in there. I'm there because the reality is that he's the jewel rankin is and this. Is You know but the chance. Yeah we're not saying because you're on a poor cost and you're looking at economically the reality is Leeann doesn't draw that salt crowd out. He's very popular. Fire is done really well if he's career. You're the elder statesmen. You're older but you all the jewels. So it's hard for you incidence. Say Right on a call that you're going to be you know I'm not really bringing to AH old settling and I've got nothing but you know what we're saying clearly the draw no TV job you say now might be last night in Sheffield. He's got you thinking that you have to get that you're gonNA finish your career. 'cause over in the states is that is that what you're talking about. I just believe that you know. I'm the big the big the big fires. The big names are in America and even if they're not in America think the it's bigly Sheffield yes you know I think it's bigger than Sheffield need to where it is a bit more. The Sheffield my place. You know I think he could eat lot more London. America is that Kinda okay. Well there's more money involved voted more of in the Bronx. You that two different and then you go to With Sheffield Wednesday play Travel Melena coach. That would be beautiful. Those the bat result is something close. Yeah Yeah but still a similar performance. Because I was a fantastic see performance against Randall. Spins on my own real quickly with the I was always in the back of your mind. Uh It was before about gluskin message Doctor Muhammed Ali. Yeah he told me. Don't forget I'm getting older. Two kids this time that nor vehicles from your when you get all these bit wide Thing to me. There's no money you can't put money on your health Human being hate one more time you could have been blinded so when I knew on that fact we spent that my over I had gone before I knew the feeling. I'm looking down in full the roles because as we get him ringside tickets master. He's looking at many could see the injured and is not any that line. So I'm going to the corner every single round after that drinking. Ethane I mean I. I've got the PRI- 'cause I'm in Sheffield it. You know I could lose will to her. I don't like that and I'm getting drained rain because of the way in the fight to that fine bizarre because you know you go drink making weight but as I said this. It's a few weeks ago. Spent Bro out the best in you. You know. It wasn't enough that night it was one of the worldwide divisions best fights in a long the only time you know it really. It was something else to watch. Say Away from boxing. All of your home life when that question when that was put you the you could lose your sight. What did you home until you mrs but what happens what happens? What happens? Ritchie scholars say. This is enough cals she. She had she had lied when these things. If we know these days as a game he can legally get killed in but you know even more. I wonder his friends on someone we know and are being my. I've got injured in the fight the week before the week. After you've got we've got bredon is the wagon and then on my wife's them we don't ever I don't let her go through my mind and like stay reminded passes through a phone. We've got five of 'em we've gotta lay all on the line but it's not just you but it's not founder of obviously obviously a family when he only say that to me for because I've got a good feel for that golf can you can't put yourself you don't see that eyeball out to do the surgery. When I'm trying to go in the accomplice? New Account Local Cable Company is be is not working and Mavin. The the you know the family I've lost motto. I love lost my eyesight. Fr- Br for a period. You don't see these things and then when the surgeon saying to that and then come round from around and I've got the spends far and that same cracking can noise that same feeling. I go back again in the decision looking at me. I did with Michael in the office again with him. And saying you can be blind and he's looking at me saying no pollak rouses like when it happened like six six seven eight nine hundred. Seventy the MO- around them out because I've just dignity around you win sounds winning. These are all the things run so then after the spence was that did you feel then because Roosevelt felt the worst the worst period in my life then depression and everything you know I didn't I honestly that's that's really what about you know I try to talk to people are lost along You know our our in about where you know but nobody nobody can actually feel it because they're not that person that they're not me. That is probably the wonderful creative him but when you live in the lives of his the dig myself out and we all are in the old for a long time and he will obsolete. I wouldn't wish on any manage rather get B. O.. By you know on bounce over and over and over again then then the feeling you know about to go through implement yourself out of it instant. I'm being I'm being Seen people being to see people and everything else and they do well but you have to find yourself. You said you're in a really did find myself Amal joy is back on the fires in the Bella. I don't know where it's coming from. You think was partly you even though you're in the funk and the depression that you went back to the Jim thing the gym when I'm going to the gym drinking water me in clean. I'm letting them endorphins dolphins off because when you're pushing yourself that is the way that is the key thing general looney pressure you get to a gym you get. I'm working out you stay with you. Don't let 'em ventures and get into that dark place again you still with a game. Let them get past ten days. Then let them go and they'll probably be in the near the challenge over. They say all you phoned yourself. You've got to take a look. And Gosh questions. Is this going to be dismissed. I finished in many things. You Ask yourself for your enough himself. Different questions law. But then I've actually found myself right. This is why one this is where I'm going and thin star. Every has been positive. Wherever go every film infections or me going positiveness business and you stay away from anything? That's to avoid certain places players via said things. Don't put myself in that position. Did you know that could that. Not only country Asian experience you have. Do you have to do things you know. People like me. That says limb by limb from meal that sometimes you have actually go through. It is because he says I don't want you to learn from odd but sometimes you have to go through right now but also as issued didn't like my dad's massive massive influence on my life and taught me to be the man. I am goodall bath. But he's not the famous rich a wealthy. Whatever you will with a few quid when you twenties? It's an adjustment isn't it because all of a sudden you know you go from nobody ever when you got to come within the bank you still live same area the same friends beauty all the guy even wants to listen. What you've fire all attacking see this? See them people saying but they're not famous like sometimes. I think people do not go out for free hours. And you're going to see now that one pitches imagine living Marshall more. That's why you only imagine you've done your shoulder of this person. Magnifying glasses you've got you've got to carry yourself and say where but you're still guy from from the from the council area who WanNa go blow off steam. You explain to these people people you can't you know but you know being thought died out the second but also you also know and more so now you get older. I'm also how to what privy position in this wallow where you are now what you've done so far in your career you gotta sit box visor. Go if it all ends tomorrow. It's not bad as we're calm down. I've been waking up by five six stu these kind of credit time. I swear miles I love my out and I walked down nothing again room snoot cinema Romanov I swear it. Thanks thank you thank you look while wearing from an education thing. I've done this. I've got open this. No my walk wherever else happens. Look what I've done. Yeah of course still multiple but also stablemate able meet on. The cavs is to go back to the box. That was I enjoyed. That was liberty the inside the cal. And you'll get to see that be honest. We don't kick Allah has yup was on his best performance. They look fantastic. Think I think it was best performance and I do. I think is best performance watching it backstage Asia and knew this guy. Yeah it's dangerous guy having Barry's unbelievable no The way can it can make in the temple to his Zakho. It only always Tempur the guy who never you know it it give him time to think Barra. It did what he wanted to wanted to do it. You know and I fought it looked amazing. They chop two. Am here in that and took his are a made him quit. He the Callaghan which is a close fight the causing and he's always look talent. Gala has been silent. I didn't move. You've massive fan of his years ago. You certainly yeah. We'll chat for this kid. Galahad he can fight can refi ease the one they were going to stay away from. You mentioned other names. He said they won't go near him. He said he did say that. But the other night against Warrington. I was so disappointed because I just felt he had much more to give away with giving you. It's very negative the overnight I looked world-class he turned to tell you is world champion. Defended his title. You totally the more important. Not Think as well amount to credit me all the way all the way through I you know as a champion and everything everything else so and I think with zero and he obviously from the words of a normal. What you've just said an upset the same Y- it did want to see a bit more from even though I believe they did win the facts and I think he died last five the other night? There's still be allusive going. All she like you. The unites the the only thing that I got to say about the reason. Why one kid Galahad winnable? While I have my own personal reasons why we don't because my grandfather's from the south and I know I'm white is anything but he's from the tile while I wasn't the best fighter in my street Steve Robinson was a world champion and he lived the same street kids meals Robinson so it wasn't even the best idea my street doors champion so I used you still look things Phallic. I can look at where I can go and it was like I wanted to bash wells fight currently but Dzhokhar. He will not that and so I looked at my ancestry history of my life now. My father's highly diary Scottish Ball. They've agreed by. There's nowhere near so across from the Yemen they have no fight isn't the only boxer they had the hand. The best part from the Yemen heritage because Nazeem Comet is chuck. I don't for years. I'm the best fighter in funding with Yemen. I'm an heritage called buddy buddy from the Galahad Windsor Wolves. Even the body from the Yemen. We make sure they say kid the kid kid editor of ood Jones. And so you you think you think if I was a mandatory that was the mandatory That was an eliminating salvage to be demanded. She Changed Josh Warrenton. I did you see that a fight happening and if you do you think it's the same result amounts I don't who they said that question and to me. No warrenton will not take that FAI because in his mind is beat the guy already knows and he really believed Offing Ping the new. The I know from my gym or wherever how for the e did it didn't do enough because he went and jumping back without. Call us when you know. They don't want anything John Q.. Will give it will vacate the tile pets. I see I see I see Josh. Who's being fantastic tour the speed to be fair you know? You're hoping Taliban cal but doc do you think you'll keep up the tile insanity Gallagher Stevenson fight then he saw it for. What if he doesn't get that? I think he enough to yeah. I know leads. Warrior is down in some management decisions. Because you can't question you can't go cambridge business sense right back in the day event. Great fires who just edged past skies in a fight yet do they give him a return. No no because it may not have been an entertaining fight now. The thing that weren't as people can get away. WHO The ahead? We'll see this fight again. You know got as we know is a lot when he fights us. Yeah yeah he's at Valley and you know let's go and see if we can get Steven. What if you can't get this team is always got the fight to come back against the excite in Galahad again was excited to be exciting? You Know Terry happ winning. Not The boss you superbeets all so I man the next no. I've seen a senior on the night. You should let the a little bit because they were in the backstage seen before on the show as live. She don't get enough credit told I went with led it twenty three year old. She is she's serious. She's a Komo impressed with we know. Today I thought twenty trees you said she was mature. Fairly very case against against the champion is proven at that level. Lost the Katie Taylor. Yeah and I think she didn't give that. No you talk about Youtube quite quite well. Kelly and you're you're a believe in. Stop Your therapy taking. The pace is very important in and she did that from the offset unusually. That's the championship. And she did it in many ways not you just aggressiveness. Just a faint just fainted. Evert lie off balance and yet she manages that fight so for one so young or future Seattle. I think she's got I think about it. She's a lovely consuming. She's an anomaly. November last people gravitate to her. Energy is Great. She's got a great story when you around infectiousness what she gives us. She's likable felt ticket because she's likable. She confi five she. She's all she's got she's got the contol who got got older and him and she goes. This skill can stay Jim. He'll he'll by amateur organization and she came down to support with Shanteau Cameron and she. Because if you might do a little bit positive I'm looking at the skills asking me. She wants she can actually gonNA whack. He can work she can. She hits hard. Women's boxing is limited as much as good but the one thing lacks is all too body Jones for me and I can Paula. Take care whether you like it on all the ended in your finishes in your yard together you have to get that finished and you have the power. It lacks a little bit of that. And if that's what maybe cleanly hasn't zero gate. Both lacked one punch power at lot away away because of that. They gave us a fight for the ages and I coach Gilles years ago amid Kathy Brown. Kevin Jane this. Don't I forget these. These are the gills that they would have Benjamin they send to stand. Wenchang Janko scholarly got got her first professional license. I just got my my my license back after my title and we did a little thing for local I hate Steven. Hd was called back and we. We did apiece dispatcher. They're gonNA start this. Jane Coates Whatever's woman who saw this can you turned up and she's got the sleeveless talk Kapana choices muscle. I'm sorry excuse. An outfit and our shouldn't do randolph like it took me Germany. Cathy she for German chemmical. Regina how much do you Regina Nicole. What was massively famous in Germany? She's famous football is that that issue was at that time and they on a ten round war I mean they just absolutely clad each other. It was such a good fight and you know didn't get the coverage if that fight was shown nowadays we wouldn't be talking about women don't each of doncaster. There's sufficient power and the mood. There is in kills sales boxing. which I'm seeing now in? This box may over the next eight ten years. We're going to be since we're going to be seeing some stiff punching common very good and also technique. Yeah so I do not see in the power now means that the technical level is this is why Katie rose it's all Nicaraguans row suits arising talk. Oviously no follow tellers. Orders fight message when the eighth the top of the bill now is David Evian versus Josh Kelley. Yes we should step up and yeah yeah you spazzy step up Josh Taylor it just Keller even a made in fire you know. He's got all. The skills are believable. Nothing fearful around with that with booth. Komo domains is technical. You can't be all the Kendall to move but the finger relied looked were and we know after after when the when we gaze now. It's not when I got twelve hours to go with him. Without Robinson guy you know. In a draw we seem unraveling with seem unraveling after he gets past us five or six brown thinking about. Maybe but but we'll we'll time will tell what I know about David. Obvious is asphalt with the guy you know and if one is a real armful can give him give him some big lakes kids come in here just like either a Gig key to see evacuate. You are now Zach and these heels not afraid to travel because that's not the head punch Alamos. He's been taking himself. We can all get taken out. You know let's kill. Don't get the thing. Why do why is that? They've got remember his name. He even looks like Avenue cynical go sparring partner in there at the moment. They've Edinburgh couple of Kemp's Josh even looks like avenue and he's very aggressive and Adams not an idiot. They know that Josh is got to utilize these called giving gifts. He's not only got people miss. He's GonNa make him make consistently it's GonNa make him pay. And and that's what he's lacked. When I refuse to believe that this Josh Kelley will make that mistake? I'm the manager could funny Olympics. I thought he had everything. Go Reebok's radio value. You film style looks new ticks. All the boxes in many ways. But I'm worried that this EGOS WANNA rush to the top queer so you you wouldn't rush cal. New German is different era of the different here. You ride of what is now with ear. We've got these fires now. There's so many five got time to this fi you can fight now. Show me. Come back to it wayside. Before in my my time you know the can build you got a bit more. Time is now that Sarah is changed by fasting. Box The trial. I mean having said that if he's fall and you good enough then you're debt for ponant gets doesn't it. You know so but then if you're not good enough then you get you know putting away some or you become again. It's it's a tough game. It's fair to say right now. Now the likes of Joseph Parker is a former world champion ditches aura. WHO's a good to ernest pro series? They are gatekeepers to achieve where you go in in the respective heavyweight division. So what did you think needs to do. 'cause he hasn't got A. It's not a Brendan ingle style. But I'm very much allusive English. No no so what do you think he needs to work on time. You need to have got into you too have got it all you need to not easy you need to be accomplished by actually apart You need to have the art they chain. You know the the toughness evolving all so. He's got older glimpsing but when it gets hard and the question itself to know them championship around there you know so I know one thing I will make him realize about them either. Very good train movement. We'll definitely try the wrong come right. I know I'll tru truly believe that And that's why they used booth that nervous. But that's what makes you think these students but that he wouldn't take too soon he wants a heuristic and he Safai that the great thing about lavery Abramson was the different fight reuse. Picking people in shots says yeah. Just engrained in that range. EVANESCENT AIN'T GONNA do that. He really thinks the more getting these kids face more combranch. He's home and that. Could we'll be undoing. Because what's the best fire to fight against that one as aggressive aggressive yeah to boom home so this could be. Just Kelly's coming out fi and you know why it couldn't be honest 'cause not kit. It couldn't happen to a nicer man. 'cause a a lot of people I remember when books books about reading it years ago and he said you know sometimes I get the feeling that PC sweet small and and and Moss more rubsum wrong. And I think that's the same thing with because I read some of the tweets at go. Somebody's people got no live somebody. DMZ box so hateful. And I'm like Oh my God if you knew nudist kid if you knew he was a person you will be this way. I guess that's Fox's nuts folks finances bell newcastle is going can be really Louis rich vicious formula champion and Miguel Vazquez. That's a step up in many against the guy. Who's maybe over peaked? Yes I think he's lost his last four. How close very close close enough enough for argument's say if you're going to have a way so I'm thinking this is a big step up? Step up now by the right right time instead of the rods and Vasquez not puncher. So what you make of it. I think he's great to watch toughen. And he's a she really want to cheer for. The thing is with him before we got us. Where are on the Ritz and wave? Yes I watched him out yes and not come out to a phenomenal jumps. The special one e pump same wa Wa is is like the Guy Next Door Oh carrot cake fi component. You Know I. B Ed Lining show. The new castle is not being done for a while is something to buy you know I would. I got this fight. He's obviously a good friend of mine out in the gym. Robbi Davis No return love. You know why is he saw by always robbing the chain quiet before four. But it's the the character. Good stocktake fantastic much here. Olympia and the courses Seattle Davis when the Olympics believable. But you're rich. You need to push on creek again now because he sells many tickets. What's the word you there with him? Do you think that he's not had the federal if gallison experience from his loss Robbi Davis junior not a real good European level fighter gear give a good region of the WPA. Because of that. You think then you just really I mean if he beats fact scares a former world champion style. Then you know obviously you know. He's one of the most powerful from the world so he can lobby for one from pretty much lobby for some version of a world title. So don't from what I would say. We Lewis is still easy hit and you got style or how long is your longevity. You know that is so he's probably thinking. Yeah well you know what this kid in two worlds of fun. Now see what he's got if he wins it. Oh my God of what people can potential physically. He's strong won't wait. Go up another wait. Sort of yeah. It doesn't have the same spider snap. Yeah wasn't Kusasis at lightweight stiff palm traffic a lot of ESPN every shot. So this is going to be the test now. I mean I mean said that Vasquez does go two rounds but it doesn't Doesn't hurt so. Let's not counting for to win. so He's good You know hyphen recent can stay with him. And then it's just going to see how much 'cause Ruse Ritzman do that all day. Long calling each go first of all because you knew great stats to the the perfect staff you know the rebuilding processes I guess you call it rebuilding process because you've got the new man as we've all found out what's your wishes for this year for twenty twenty your boxer missions to Tamil jumping this year this year. Twenty twenty any you know. Listen visit you WANNA be. I WANNA be as realistic before I will. I go on miss be missing. Yeah but I'm in the gym. Yeah I'm I'm ready. I'm ready to go and twelve week if he could do. I'm living the life I'm living. There are roughly. I'm ready to go. I'm I'm alive live now so so so so you get off the Rosario in May that's too much time to was talking to. I'm ready to go to get off a patio while two eight. I'm ready in April like my nutrition. Sesame went Kelly. Listen listen look what you doing. This new person like we do put more fuel into made me wait. It's coming down. Your attitude is talk to it. He converted we have to because I issued is everything now. Here's your what you're basically saying. Is that if you had a betsy view in the bets appraisement and not just because of your food in addition but in life if you better in life you the main way easier you've been your interview everything everything eighteen would've been in that. Would you want to spend return please. You really want it we oh you know. He's a special talent. I the only me. Actually Cy Knowles. What went off in that training camp and what what was gonNA offer me this? This person may be older. The EC- Sam don't forget he'd been in a car. Crash will ever be combat sambo. I know I know I can beat him about six league's round. IBM Ethics Rana built around too big without being living their lives. The way it'd be on point and every impact our discussion there With completely different attitude than last time you were better against spence on a sadist Everybody and I don't know whether expenses the common denominator because Hsun Port was the best. I've seat him against the. You're the best that you the best kill Brooke I've ever seen is the six rounds against it yourself. You gotta say Fogo in a minute. That's show important. Fights stood the test of time on your win every time every time he fights when I be and then when he got onto great it makes my window it down. You could even argue even with an should have come out like but very close so you can get enough credit credit for the moment of creation another article V. I I just feel that you're presenting yourself in that way we all do want them magical. politics this new. Maybe they'll maybe I've been lucky that you feel you had a change in hope so listen Kalikim fantastic. It's been speaking speaking to a young prospect here. That's the goal. No it's like just to improve. It was put wants the best himself and yeah look you be fantastic anything. That's all this week Eddie. Always can do all and thank you for listening and don't forget to tune in next week.

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Callum Johnson & Barry Jones talk Buatsi, Fury & Miami

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Callum Johnson & Barry Jones talk Buatsi, Fury & Miami

"I'm the golden if you not use a little spicy listened to told Sopa cost. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Rings I tot- Tower Boxing. podcast exclusive to Sky Sports House. That I'm joined by former super featherweight world champion. Barry Jones. How you doing nice as you too? So you've been digging me out all day when my beautiful jumper described always is a mustard matches. Your you're running. Let's get nice good but thank you. It was a Christmas present. Really genuinely think it was actually this week. We're joined by MANU. Came so close to winning Titan is looking for a second chance in twenty twenty that is of course callum Johnson welcome gala alum. Later on. How you it's been it's been awhile since we also saw a case in it was a case brought Bernanke but now I've been injured in but now I'm ready to go this year? You sort of glossed over that a little bit injured. This was back in July in the summer summer. And this is an injury that was in the GM fight. This was something else. You're on your pushbikes. Tell us what happened. Solar Clinton when Bosnian Alabama crush Bosnia. Oh you like a kid. WHO's some on the paper flow? The Pope Open. It was actually do. I told my shoulder shoulder to shoulder surgery shoulder in the summer but as as One of the things that happened at a deal at the time I had to go through it. And you know Omega you now and I'm unprepared in America again. So how long has been this is bin Laden. It's been five months. The surgery up in but so full forfeit now for the last six eight weeks and you know he's feeling Gordon Affairs. which is strong as it ever has been now is interesting? Isn't it sometimes when you enjoy yourself when you have these little enforced layoffs the you can rebuild yourself when you combat physically stronger all over. Because you've got that time to physically stop arrest and recover I I think they're rebuilding yourself because you do the Rehab and all the proper things that the decisions what to do that if that's where it become feel like its strongest. Probably not strong. It's just that it's state rested appropriate. I'm doing exercises now. I've never done before. which my bachelor them before you know like preventation Shen exercises as well woman probably calling down probably and you know? That's something of public never done. I should have done so I feel like. I'm getting benefits from that. That's it's really interesting that you say. Do you think your continue to do that. You think well I guess if this had happened you wouldn't have done that but that is something that you're gonna take for jailing differently often call now for the. I am a career you know. Look after my body Before before and after training and get the physios and and a lot because it really does help open it. Just prolonging your career and especially now you know I'm getting older and now I'm twenty nine hundred. You just say you know how old you are. You said to thirty four you late twenties. You didn't right now is good. It's good fresh Shah said that about you. Look at Walmart and warm down. That's you know. I thought you all do that anyway. Nowadays because we never did and you body self my body surface. I know that I never warmed up. I used to go home and wackier. My father used to watch ethics. And if you look at this kid now this man is supposed to the Javelin you gotTa Tracks Dong. Long stretching takes chubby through one Jaffrey puts a street back on. It keeps your body and I wish the time and this she like you. Please turn up at the gym. Nate sometimes you drop your hands as you. Won't you just train you stretch. Pretend and you will straighten into a really fat work and the warm down own cool and daisies doesn't hide off. You know you didn't pound economy's doing it say something are never really talk seriously. Thought saw things and now obviously you know things when things up and what they see it makes you realize you know Delicate you body and and now what he needs to look after you have as you said even a bit of a layoff this shit. Just how frustrating has that been for you because you gathering some real momentum but can you and that's that's kind of jolted laws. It was sold destroying really poor. I found myself in the position was again and you know I just got macree. We off to tour Flyer early. Two hundred nine is one of them you know is in that position and I couldn't change it so out to deal with it and do why do to get myself back on unless well known but yeah it was. It was very for Shea in like I say it was. It was not tom again. We'll sue mostly because modern was so good fighter. Maximum fighter Irish background over there in the east. Give these these coasts of of the states and they really pushing for his name anywhere anywhere anywhere into Irish heritage in America and they settled and they were put into a rule title. And you thought that's that's the best when you were over there to be on this one year it was it was a It was to get me buck in. That will make surfing. The winner of Maine was going to be pushing for wool tall and it turned out at the local level. Obviously injury cost me that chance. Did you not fight could happen. Yeah believe the offing if when Europeans offing fought will most definitely happen again on the promote June show. More of whatever going back before the mime fight because some close to BC Batavia and we. We spoke to you when you came in. I think there's a couple of weeks after after that and you said about the mental side of things. Because you would've taken confidence in the competence not performance movements but also to the one thing. I would change your mental preparation for that thing. Not so much the preparation in the come a thing when five week can any sort of realization in where it was what was doing it was up against all star of US endowed. I'm good enough off. Should up this level of interest when you do. Have those doubts detail to anyone about that or is that something you internalize So of Bryce and spoke to the cameras uh spout locos the much confidence among the man on the planet but deep down I wasn't I was always struggling. Oakland is something that of from an unknown for fighting over again because It wasn't a hundred percent muscle flat Ni- and I still did well enough to show performance that level and let's be honest. He's not just normal average world champion. He is a powerful powerful. And you know came very close boy Godunov buffalo different or not. Maybe it might be a quarterback so the changes say the mental preparation. What what what what have you been doing? Or what have you changed. Just thought not not really any fin just again Experiences an offense Rivera Garfield experiences. You can never know yourself will know how to change. Change Your own mental approach so many you can read as many books as you want or you can speak to people until you go through that process and you go free truly experience yourself. You know you can't really Y- you need to live it either. Yeah and also the nose. Well 'cause you've which which did well you'll need. You still lost last up. Police still going to hurt you but because you did so well and it was glimpses that you could have done better level does she. It gives you more confidence now. This photo books any more than that. Never thinking this guy stands alone in a division. That's fantastic by the way maybe the haves division in any in the moment and you you made him look for his win they you can be more than competitive than anyone else. Definitely I mean as I say. Take off if there's lot because there's nobody that's made in Luke uncomfortable always looked in his comfort zones on the fail failures. I'm the only person that seven made him look uncomfortable at times so I take from the book you know against stalls make fosters well and you know all stalls oversee auto off the kind of and I do know is I'm very very strong. Very very powerful which you need a top level Again you know. Hazel is how much so again win lose. All Georgia's to the things went wrong in the first one you know again in five week and momentum memento force and the little things will offend than differently in the fall while I just watch ago just to make it 'cause lock into Bay again just so now. Okay you just not quote golf. aww He's been in the ring since that. How often do you replay that all the time and I think the first round a look at things things the first round knockdown? I wasn't Lookin' The refs at stop awful over safe any inolvement next week. Nothing not a an effect on the way maybe also for the fight then went up in the second maybe it was being too cautious because of the first round may be always lot. Wow I forgot him. And so of shocking estimate. Nine hundred London and fell in the fire said to Joe in the Corsair Nausea is. He's not a strong Joe you know. He's not as strong as before. It was going to be awesome stronger. I think maybe I'll be too so I may be got to shoe but you know the end of the day he got man. I know you said about the whole week building up would would you because of all these median obligations and you haven't had before the different Being away from home was on an internal moving so much of the made effing fancies reputation. Maybe money's caught me a little bit Augustus really honest for from from now. Today's oversee Ya. Ah Yeah pump pound number one in the images he was up basically. Nobody wanted to fly He he took it to fruit to the pros and again is going through training and everything else in a whatever it might be when not realization sets in of where you are and what you up against you you know elegant Camilo Bill. We only STU but at the same time I was never. He's weighed. I was never so scared. Eight or wasn't gonNA out. We're going to give Vinnie out last. Maybe while also nervous because I knew I was leaving. Whatever you know it was going to have is to knock me out to beat me? It's just the pressure. Yeah Thing Athena so it was again all the pressure from Beckham you know. We'll the social media like good look in an ideal town con of fellow at the white of the world shoulders and note. Nobody'd ever seen me be an old town was going to be what Chen into thinking. And everyone's school of expecting me to be everybody in Afghanistan and depressed off what was supposedly going to be at so far and I went and bluster Himalayan noise seconds so mile towns a small community in the wall just expected me to go to a marriage is monster not really nothing warm up against and and I remember saying to my over in day to day before the flight these people are gonNA clue against you know and I think yeah the pressure of all just just the best thing into less learning also not just to care if that's been selfish boxes. It's such a selfish and needs to be them uh-huh reasons but you're worried to go over the people feel if you get beat or you let the people down where you're going to be selfish. I think no matters but me. It's is like having a filter isn't it you've got to have to be able to blackout stuff. I so hard nowadays with social media and what your role is whether you put the phone down he anita looking at how many days hours one fight. But it's so hard not to see it now like like I could quite well with us all stuff and I didn't have the same tools that you have but I didn't have what you have as well the social media successful Davey body and I think that is I think you just gotTa cut off. I I mean that she'd like soon as if I know I would just cut off easy said Doug goes is genesis but you what. What is the noble after that fall after Chicago did say future or not be looking at social media and not be worrying arena? Anybody else in phone has no nothing but you can still get phones. Just had to knock Earl's take Chipo put it in that one that select system as hard as easiest at the number this is you put your level again. It's as you said until you've experience these things you to cope and some people cope with a quite well naturally. Luckily did you enjoy five-week I thought I didn't I didn't didn't and it just it had no effect over me. It was just all it was was just on similar fight. I didn't think of anything that is just another fight. I didn't care about the college's reputation you you saw. It's easy to say that you know against at times and just it's out almost con- In yourself that on your best day no one can beat you and you have to feel that even even though I also really new especially my last by the new the guy was too good for me but I went into the ring and like you did. You must've been offering in thinking e can't beat me I. I went off in the feelings. I have a newell could be if I'm if I'm totally taught me on this Donald for four award V. That makes sense question you read is the you know like say for instance went on both front for the bridge. storrow was no one but I was not going to win that fought. Why don't you think that was that out again? Because again the reputation and now we not good he was maybe not believing ourselves as much as you should. We used to go to psychologist. I think we spike about this. When you came in downtown the time look at your face feel feel as the mistakes of learn into control them things from before from my own experiences domain on a feel as though of amount so colleges if you lie yes you know for a fact lower never made them same mistakes again all of them same out and if it was to fought but it'd be again or go in not fought no not not offing cannot be? We could win it. It didn't see it didn't show figure obviously show that you know. Sort of half no half-heartedly Philippe behalf thinking without a did about you caught. Hell was Zim. Say is a weird one because essay fru fought old. Doubts never died always going to give I give it all those always gonna give it all see. I didn't focus on the fight. I just focused on the stuff at the end the belts and win lifting up and I just thought within their discipline. I'm going to be if I if I win. This fight is going to be so focused on you train for almost. I didn't worry about Jim. One of the beds or more James would be different if the BELTON and winning. I didn't think about you about I didn't go through. The scenario of what was GONNA happen to. Maybe you could over think things famous oversee. What was doing enough? I feel trauma cash ratio relief refreshingly. Honest to based and came second to the best the rest the account of yourself. What does put that to one side for now and look ahead to where we go now? You have some time out. What is the plan? You WanNa get in the ring you WanNa get some momentum behind you again. Yeah I mean obviously this European for it's supposed to be up and then wait for the official confirmation confirmation of the day that's the against potentially ego Kennel. Every say his name but less so far at but again so far the AUM Aum uh-huh Molin confident of on win on Oklahoma Game But Yeah I get that win. Not and the move on and get busy and and stay active for the next couple of years because my career has been stop start. Stop Start and this time starts and stays stay star for furious especially when it's out of your control through injury that you can't do anything about that so frustrating and that can that that that's where dogs can start entering your hair talks takes some some people just like paper. The you know what I mean. They just rip and tear heavy new yours injuries. self-inflicted 'cause you plan on your bony. BMX But and what have you know you know. But it's something. Some people just injured all the time. And it's going to be sold Sri in for really happened in the fact that you've got this this fight. I think it's a it's a perfect for because news award ranked fighter one of the best cov is beaten and didn't have his own way and I think if you can do and I think you could Deuba job at this stage of their careers and put you elevate your feedback harsh and talking to title shots. What about potential right right down the line with someone like Barack see or Neon? Those two names are constantly it to us say we may May. What's the content of the free biggest names James imprint? Another minute and the key mentioned an assault on interview mentioned in about Weinstein Man. What's the Kennedys Year on offering us? A big a father can be made and and probably will be made and I said I say so far more than open to and and more than for those two names Tasha voisine Anthony Art. Who would you like basically? Would you rather Right now I mean it all depends on what would be the biggest fought over the wanted before tall. We I WANNA be worth the more money ought to save on would prefer to fall because you know whoever who seemed to be. The father of Tom on May prefer to fly potato beer forgivable. It's all the same that they've got the will Six more time eight month time ten more time you know things change and assess out then you would you like to see callum with if it will right now I would say bad just because of the box call eleven outdo they lost the condom yourself and so the similarities and possible just fellow shot and and also there's a vacant tall hanging you don't have to put in the mixed. I think that domestic robbery at several embassies waiting in the wings. So that's what's he might be the best. Everyone care what I say but it might be because look fantastic. Put a foot wrong but not quite box than ever they boxed out in Alaska a fight sold or yards last for your last two fifty. We haven't got the right level yet. He looks get that easily but yeah but it'd be either way such an exciting hours now. Domestically is fantastic. Ought to the golden contract there. There's going to be windy. Day is going to push him for one of these three. Of course well talking contract you look nice tonight because of course. You're you're Jim Mates Bert. And he's in the semifinals isn't the hours he do is box in. Asia is training really. Well I mean the box. Untouched became the first four. And he did. I think he wins. He wins contract no problem and again not put him in the walthall mix and believe we should be as well because I was as a very very good for. Aw Mom you're saying this but similarly to yourself is not really had that much exposure really his his current Murray's they say he had his break when the British and then he lo a loss of against Franken eat Sola went down for Shawqi for call about and a special name rarely because he who is winning not fought quite unbelie in eight and they go in the end any loss bull it just shows how our laws can stump career low and put a stop you know for quite a while but you know. He's he's channels now. He's he's in this cold on contract and you know he's looking on form. It didn't tell him that never really caught on this because you pass yeah always always already the level where these guys are trying to fight to get to if you like so if I would have been at the station obviously would cost my mind. You know I feel as our more the European or world level. You know a lot of that. It's fantastic it really it. It is and that is ten rounds and not knowledge to the pros for three rounds makes a genuine guys used to be in the prizefights. It from back in the day you get some really good champions from it but our format like a cheat through three rounds and you can let me spin through and you will probably struggle more than I would the ten rooms it makes it a real. How distant and the first one the Federation that that that was on the bushes? I was lucky to be ringside aside and it was just fantastic. Become the contract at the end of it for the women but also the The incentive of the knockout. Mrs Yes. It's more excitement. Hasn't tournament win. The first and foremost actually. I'm saying I would be you know I'll be chasing Satnav anyway the bonuses and you just wanted the fights but I think the fact that you know if you go on the hook we'll be a normal. We'll talk a little bit more tactical with a bonus on. I think you can see some of them going through it and I think you'll see that now getting to get into the final final. It'd be the semi finals days of really pushing for action. Then now a familiar face return to Calamuddin. Recently a Scott quake was reunited with Joe Gallagher. After three years with Freddie Roach week order with Scott and his opponent John and Caroline the press conference with fight in Manchester on the seventh as we long terms terms and I made the phone call we discussed and Joe I say about working together in the happier Joe Out says he will you please from Scott wanted to come home and thankfully in all senses yes always break when you working with the caliber of a Fi alive. Hi Scott Quick so Yeah listen reconquered amicably. The door was always open as it has been in the past macklin and will defy as well so Scott went over experienced winced life over there and wildcard. La and like you said it's four years the last time We both fought together. He fought together care. Toner the arena so good hunting ground for the paddles and And it's good to be working together. Scott Greg's phone world champion Gray Foyer Brooklyn how from the same cloth. You know what I mean. We can both home and but he's already gained what we want. You know what I mean. He's a former world champion. I want to be in that way. I want to beat out champion so I need to get over people still quick. You don't need to deal with the need to look well the on this on that were. That's what my plans I come here. I'm showing his career was pretty well. It looks to Frampton come off the rails a bit since then you seem as being vulnerable. Yeah definitely one SAM. I think sometimes when people catch loss they self-doubt themselves. Think think I'm only here because ago handed these opponents are my you know like they stay Wendy free world champion which is and maybe the in his own head because he completely go from so for me. Maybe he's like I'm we actually at this level of Lake avoided this this point of my career. We don't know how good good is it to have a Scott back in the gym. Good it's actually when you have to China this autumn. Because he's he's an animal is nice nice good to have him back. He's yeah call is remember. The last we was on the assault box next to each of going away and I'll think God what is that. That's an evil piece of have you been horrible. The worst the worst Portland get get some good work and you know the east comeback in lock never been away in twelve embark in you know is a familiar face and say it's not it's not lost someone news coming easy. I'd say he's combat. He's never been away as he changed much. All he still has matters ever on las old Balkany sees a dog. I'm still a good fighter. I think you think he's past his new in your payroll. I think I think you should have all this because Valdez is really we needed operator and again even though we come second vessel strong and Turf East Elizabeth. They're really pushes forward. You can block walks in shots and no you can break your half. How beneficial do the move to? La To work as fen fan. I think there's two of the coin I think because I think the gym wars wasn't working for me over there because I think the the their fights not sparrow in many cases but no a few new tricks authorities Alan different ways of approaching fights and defense. Also I think the quake yes form of how he fights. I don't think you you need to change my shit change him. I think he's trying. I think to his game too much and the allusive is other stuff definitely offing offense. Call as she said he falsely does way does them but why does he's very good at. I mean he's very very strong. Very powerful kid you know especially for the size of an apartment game is is like you say he's fitness strength power which is pressure and he's coming. I E you know you know you know even a fault with brick bricks your hat. I say from Washington and Jim over the last couple of weeks. He's still fire in his belly and he still Hongda. Uh He's always so what was said that he doesn't think that Scott's have recovered from not front and defeat. Did you think that's slightly unfair. I think he's and John Carroll is fellow and he said that so Craig hears it and staff of data. I don't think he just going to say that you do you think mine game minded. I should sessional yeah. I think it's mind games. I do. I think he's just out of us all that sort of stuff. I don't think I don't think the front and I'm such a long time ago and I and I think the creek that much either retired g the cows stock of course. Quick accost Cao Cao. How Punch was no? It's not a pension camp as you note and that's a problem but if you aren't going to be a puncher to beat them quick if you can push how to stop them from walking through are you and use the footwork. Then you can then you can plan a fight around a whole to beat him whether you can do it on fighting. I think Craig is so almost almost almost undeniable when he comes forward I think that's weighing. Sometimes maybe when I just said I'm going to contradict myself you might need a little bit more of a dig or some sort of spite. Oh to roof tactical summing to to stop them from Ritchie. Just impose himself on you. Do you agree. Yeah I agree. I've not seen massive amount of John Carroll Bull you know they say he's not the biggest punches in a pretty much well not done as he said they you know you need power to source. Stop quick coming for you. If you haven't got it. Will we will go for. What did you think Whitney stay on? What is currently today? I think we just needs to do a dose. You know. We'll pause himself make sure his strong and he's he's he's got the rounds in which you will love which you always an and basically put it on performance. He does what he does. I think quick. It's the same thing you just do what you do. Here's our formal Eddie. Works for him. I the only thing I would say is is we cattle category good footwork and high-energy onto Jerusalem. Bundy non stop and you have to stop the exit route. So it's sometimes for me when you get him on the ropes you step just slightly to the right to stop them from pivot and often if you could do that and keep cattle on the Rosie fire backwards you but then you. You're you're throwing them with a guy who tend to think of what he can hit the new and that and that's that's where I think creekmore gather success cracker on. This is a great fighter. Do others criticized for us. We lose for back and forth on social media to believe believe it either stylistically. It's a fantastic fight. I think calls 'cause a quick style that will make it more exciting by but also cattles feisty characters on what. I've seen inbox a few times. When he's into pressure so you can punch but he got a big ask and he takes a chance to win the pressure? You defy back in these and I think he's physically stronger the money than what you what you think you think younger those physical strength but I think he got enough physical transparency. We might be not. She'd be delighted to maybe they'll make go for it as well just to clarify you said all right. We'll have a new doubt. Have one eye on on the super featherweight contest. In Miami on Thursday nights seven farmer defenses IBM belt against Georgia Diaz from two. Am You can watch. Pack night up boxing on Live Sky Sports to Beatrice Andre Daniel Roman Anthony Junior. Amanda Serrano all on the bill as well also love them or hate them. The contest between Jake Paul Anderson has captured many of the headlines and is both in Florida. Lucky then they're in the sunshine he's just an update on what the fuss is all about about to have on back in the UK. Listen to the toe to toe podcast. Tiny scale here on the roof of the hotel with Joe Joe. Great to be working with you again this week week. Set this one up. How did Jake Paul Anderson? Gabe gave all coons make easy. How did this come about so give her two previous flights One undercover JJ. And one. On the case Logan I much and pretty much established himself is like clogged flights up And then Jake Buca involved on of C.. J. J. Logan's I much as well. He beat Edgy. And then naturally I think where Jay was looking for an opponent. Keep wanting to fight The UK audience over eighty push for give to be the one that takes on. I think jake no choice. You Know Jake wants to fly against Kassai and yeah. It's become apparent if given that he asked to go through and it's so yeah it's being pushed John J more than anything to be honest style wise. This one feels like it's going to be An entertaining spectacle. Would you agree with that hundred percent. I mean the two guys the thing. They're more cold than more. You know they can get in the zone of warning to each other. You know they're not just entertainers I think In both desperately expertly want to win more than anything I think I think this could shape up to be the best youtube boxing we've ever ever had one of them even though the event doesn't seem as peaking there's not as many people and the events don't seem to be packed I think overall the fight should be unbelievably entertaining. Take your here And I know try to stay neutral but you will have an inkling as to the way that you think is going to go. What would that be to be honest? I think it's going to be a wool. Honestly gave it was gonNA make it scrappy. He wants to make it conversation. A white collar talk. He doesn't want it to be technical and at the students where they're trying to pick shots and I think that's going to make it look a war proper battle with it's GonNa go the distance I don't think Jacob be able to get The shots away that he wants to. And I don't think Gabe we'll be able to be clean enough with his shots to get a K. O.. I think maybe the best obt. Ko from Gabe Balkan. See this in the distance Islamique Logan fight and give winning purely aggression you know orchestra and the fire pushing the fight and making it happen. This feels like it's divided besides as well That the youtube community on the UK. Soy come together and I think Jake Paul said one or two comments like the none of you. You Ca- I k.. Guys can fight and that's kind of made like an US against them type. Feel is that right. I mean but without doubt Jay Paul. Was this untouchable. Top of the game name character getting millions and millions of us on top of the world and now so the UK. We'll see his views of drop. He's not doing as well as he was. And if we love the fact that he's needing analyzing Gabe who used to make fief videos open impacts. He needs him in order to stay relevant essentially. So yeah we're pushing mission and we know what the dailies and we love it so if he wins this but the whole of twitter the hold of social media will just go crazy you know not just in the UK as well a thing around the world. One of the things I have to say I love the seven-figure Giver Energy. Yes brings up policy of energy winner. Roy brings great great to one thing before Woah. Just obviously we all come from the professional boxing world. We immerse ourselves in it. That's all day to day job How do you think things have been perceived off to I massive event between the two worlds colliding? Almost I think there was quite people. Were prepared to hate it unprepared for massive backlash. I don't feel like that happened happened from also I. Did you feel like catchy. There was a mutual respect. There will a thing look. It was the most entertaining fall on the night. You know you had these. These professionals showcased amazing skills but the entertainment limit value was in that you know the main event and Logan which I think it was amazing. You know obviously there are people you know we do agree. It wasn't the best quality and it wasn't by evenly. Yeah it was scrap. It was entertaining. It's what you know while we love books in well entertainment wise not quality but yeah it was a great fine. I think overall you you know walking away from it we will we love and hope it does continue buffet. If if she wins this fight against Jake a thing that could potentially be the end of it. Because it doesn't I don't know if there's many other narratives will always have faith that want to do whereas if jake wins he will probably go on to face. KFI Okay well you say perfectly looking forward to the rest of the flight week events and if you do want to tune in and watch the three big world title fights on the card as well early hours of Friday morning set your alarms two am squash books main event. Hopefully you can join us. Then we're going to continue to not tall. Paul turns out here all I didn't need hand. How come Andy? Scott is in Miami sunning himself supposedly working and we're hearing all Salihi now is the last bit was for you. I think is now gonNa ask you your opinions on this love or oh hated as we said there's definitely an appetite for ut. Boxing G think is here to stay other low. Come on give us all safe. Because the just the Fella there just said it give wins might be the end of it. I don't think progressive doing it. The Freddie Flintoff the boxer and my issue is how easy it is to get a professional license. That's the worry for me. 'cause it has danger because long's it before the stop fighting each other and generally believe because if you've got if you've got people like you really talk amateur or you like people telling you the best of the best you just added thinking well people can't be wrong. I must be the best. So they got millions of people. Saying you're God you're the best you're the best. You really the best fight of the night. Where does it end thus my worry that they ended up that they will fight a genuine professional fighter? And that's where someone's going to get hurt then do on their own youtube uh-huh prolonged skype. TV Pay per view is a market for it or why we knew exploit ask US business but the fact that they can get professional licenses just by being mm physically fit is my only issue do it. Good luck to them. It's a great experience. Get in the ring in a bucket. This was some people it'd be. What is white collar shows like three times a week on the country in the world? But when when you when you when they get fresh license just by just by being physically healthy there's a problem that's my only issue. It's not just the fact that the that it has professional boehner and you can only. Yeah I've never really fall a lot to agree with what you're saying because you know they get into professional license in the not professional boxes a apart from not sort of offering huffing case. Great really supposed to do and they. They've created the the publicity they've created the con of Youtube Youtube market and for them to two of the following of goal and to be able to fly for for the morning the flight. Four and everything. I mean people out Myself Kennedy Dream and do we not. That's what we want to do. That's what we want to create and so they've got a look to unveil on their on the card. Yeah Difficult painful via the same before offering when Kfi for the lowest legal they filled out the staple center now now for me to follow the staple center pack Staple Center off they did it was very different. I think are just said. This is a very different demographic to say to you or a normal that we would be out for a normal boxing. Show that we do. It was a very different democrat. The whole atmosphere is very different throughout the night until healthy Youtube star is a strange one. Is Your bill known the car to be honest if it was difficult difficult Paolino film because that is opening up this ball to a different generation and a different community. I'm Gosh I in the seventy state is sports are in standard. I don't know whether it brings in a new audience though to be fair because they follow them if they if next week they stopped on sport the wheel bottle racing. They'RE GONNA follow. It sounds good because I'm sure and residents as if he locked but I think that's that's there's there's legs in it like that but the fact they want to do it. Good look look I think McCallum saw feel the same way in probably also that if you want to do awesome. It's a fantastic experience to do it but to get in the license. I worry about the dangers. If these are crossing over to fight in real professional fighters being trained and like Kalomo myself from young youngsters to Maine and then then you'll see the difference. It might be boring when the same quality when you when when you've got respectful to to the profession though I I was going to get hurt. And then there's a stain on the spot. That's how I feel about. I don't care about the disrespect us. Burden Gordon Parsons can be one of the businesses. There have been so but the heard not roof at bathrooms bald point and of course we Andre Defenses. W Belt against Dublin's Luke Keillor. What do you think is the chance to think? I don't don't think so. I think he's had just a massive terror on allows of two years of his career. I remember when he for the first time and he was the end the dog he he was meant to get beat. No To be honest and I I was there. I worked at night and I thought he was going to have well beat and he didn't Balk so well returnee box even better and and then recently any boxer will classified ad in a real good job. I just think this is where the love the bottom of the magic. You gotTA call. You should be no one. Anita will tell and he's not only their preserved the right to be there not enough to lucky because he's pretty oh no marketable so many followers or whatever it is just a pure work determination and take his chances in the risks here and that's that's the magic of the sport. He's gone from nowhere to somewhere from. Shehab Bob Look how tough test is catering is again you go offense drily to to win the fight in twelve You when you say as he got a chance I mean he has a chance because he's a you know So if two people servings almost always got a chance almost onus but yeah I mean the chances are we know who's GonNa win but you can never say never. That's the farmer takes on. Joe Joe Dias. What are we thinking about this on? I think it's a good. It's a good test but I I'd like like family. I I do think I I. I'm not sure what you as I just don't think yes the mental toughness to just get over the line. I think family might do a good job loss to Gary Russell. Junior isn't he was very very good when he fights he caused. Listen impassable never ever seen the So much common seven farmers overseas very far and he's a talent is name we'll arguably the fives the night is Daniel run against the Young and aggressive Akmadov from the Pakistan looking forward to that one again that'll tell you every step armature again a lot of these Asian in countries and Eastern European countries that just Russell quick and nobody at seven maybe eight fighting against some of the Roman news the wealth of experience in this a situation edge with the safest bet I do. I think romantic sue. Nowhere near shot. Warhol Neuheisel maybe forty fives either. Pretty good meal. I think I think might be too soon right. Let's move on apart from promoting is bumper. Show in Miami this week Eddie. hearn also caused plenty of ways as throughout the boxing world. He says a potential fight between. Aj and the winner of the fury to is to lucrative the UK would have to end up in Saudi Arabia. Well here's those is quite on Saudi. That's made while everyone pretty rowdy. Now you have new plaza town though willing to spend money never seen before in this is there. Now we've had the conversations we did it. Once in December on the money that will willing to infants fought in the back end of the year. And while while I'm so confident that it might of making because there's just too much money they come a time in the school where money talks too much and when he does. There's no going back stage now where even if the guy's didn't wanted by Colin ignore the numbers. And you know everybody's looking at the numbers we were talking about a year ago of double tripled and so don't be greedy. You spun up on that route. That will now tight you chips and leave Don Washer move away the Saudi Arabia a big option a big ocean you know. We have Upon she had there in Saudi Arabia by put the money out for any reason why they delivered everything. I said I did everything I promised I delivered. And I won't make bad bad and when they've got that constitute a mentality. It's going to be difficult to be those comments. They path bridge books anything. Yeah for fans. I think we're not even British boxing micro more opportunities for guys calendar immortals and and not only a good the thing blooming for boxing fans who actually go to file so much just know what's on TV and so this is a terrible thing because you're not gonna get the heroes live and and that's been the sort of this when he mentioned. This is people thinking what I'm not going to get to see. Aj in fighting anymore. What what's going to happen? And as always it was always a case Malecki she knew had over here. No beating no Gary Mason things inside the great fights for them once he got five title. Once you be Bruno we never saw again states really belonged and so it could be the same source. Listen I if you like. We saw thought somebody. Aj that he was creating such a big buzz over here and in so much money than maybe he would stay here. You can't blame him him like calum and I will if I was still in office. You fifty p. more you're going to go out with Saudi on the moon but evidently you'll go so a simple promote does and TV companies and just go with the mini. Isn't you can understand. The business behind but for boxing fans is is not a great thing. How'd you feel about it kind of feel the same? The above mentioned this Lewis when he went over to America remember not just went over to America and stayed there. I think early on we got spoil spoil the British funds. Gosport Vijay and probably side thinking that I was gonna be in Britain forever Pinot if the money's going to be in in Saudi or in America wherever it won't be the fly say he's going to go there in the fog although they've been yeah it's not good for the Bush funds that WanNa watch him live over the for the easiest happened. Say Lennox Lewis in America in them. Ric You went over to America and you know so. Aj was brilliant really was did he feel something was missing with it being over in Saudi. Meaning you mentioned about American American Saudi of very different there were you. Were there though so you would know more than us what the atmosphere is. Like of course was extremely different over here in the states because a big fight. Feel when when you go so I saw it. I saw the glove canalside too big fight. You can't get to bigger fight. Denisov era and it was electric. Even before like the day before you just it was just a massive buzzer and and then on fight idea. We just took that. And you've been defiled so we think can't believe I'm here will you get you get that feeling over there. I don't know even if it's a huge fight. There were Serb amber. She really was that it was a very different week for all concerned. That's that's probably from from our guys that were working there. It was. It was just a different place to work for us. Because you can argue though. Maybe you know it's the same. With any big fight now you sit sort of relatively not close to ringside for felt further fide watching callum career and then once he fights a huge fight ringside seats a three hundred pound four thousand pound the pump. You can't afford to sit ringside so then you got to sit up in the gods you got anything pounds. TJ pounding this stadium when you're right in the back of the stadium is out any better than you better off home many ways for you go for the atmosphere. And that's where they're gonNA miss out feel so they might not not get you say you use being the right to the back anyway. H You number two. You Watch it on tally in the stadium there and it's also those things I go back when I was a kid. My father went to to what you to in the Millennium. Say seven in the old timers packed. Sorry I remember that I went to. I won't even a massive youtube fan but we went to this concert. There was a first time. He's out doing huge concept for popcorn to win over here. That's going to be. It's in that kind of audience. I was there scenario. That that that thing for bonding for families and stuff like that. Do you remember all. That's why Panama quickens a hero. Because computer went went went to watch him box live. And you've seen him live near their atmosphere and you'll talk about the rest of your life and it fell all know was it gets remotely big Egos after over to the desert. Then you go watch an amber box become fullness. There's no there's no emotional attachment there's no working-class Hero's anymore 'cause shipped off someone else. I'd be interested. See going forward if this is going to be a venue that we're going to be going to in years to come. What changes will? We'll be made. I remember the day after the fight in Saudi. I sat down with my shouldn't. There's an uppercut Andy Clarke and matlins brokers and had a chat with him and Eddie her join. When does as well and I said to myself I do you think there will be changes that will have to be made and he was quite honestly? Yeah things things will need to change. I think they will going forward for the fine if you can Edwin Tyson to go to Saudi Arabia. Watch so much the boxing. Yeah I think so I still think ultimate is still a lot of people can't afford it is what it is it's a many generating sports and for peop- boxer like to to live and to live Ashore Korea. You just GonNa follow the. It's I mean for me like that. That is not changed much because although the places changed Saudi they say over the years for me being a kid. All the great did go over to America so you couldn't afford to go to America to watch your more. A sunny really changed from from America to Saudi Saudi in Saudi hundred percent. Or would you be open for anywhere but to say if Saudi is GONNA it'll be the place in the future for the big fights then you know it was in America. She's changing the offing. The funds as say pinch over the last few years have been some big Mossy Fossey Joshua Klitschko. We've Jewish groves cough fortune. We've had these record breaking fallish and they we have been spoiled so fail from the field that they're going to miss miss out on that but at the same time only up on this offer us it's up and do you think some of the figures that have been throwing around the vast amount of money that can be on offer could help the chance the saying. Aj with the likes of water fury. Well I think it will draw that but also do sort of figures are not sustainable for longevity for an Indian pit keep Dobbin and they can't see they get not many all all the time continuously bed while of the widow all the field versus Joshua is the biggest fight to be meeting boxing. It might not be the very best fighter be made to be honest. It's the biggest fight by fan really and we all WanNa see and if so was going to pay him a hundred and fifty million. You can't blame the FIS is can you go for. They're they're gonNA argue they will more. That's the truth to be honest. If someone offers will come back we took fifty so maybe they can say okay. It's also not going to be every fought on every week even not as warm five maybe once a year will not. He's not every fan this this she's another sort of. This is almost identical to a youtube discussion. The first thing is massive outrage but when you actually talking about you go this has been take time or is going to be one big fight now and again so you go okay. Not so bad after all changes Nevio. He's taken time to adjust to that. Change well talking of wilder fury the build of course continue so fury to with promised moment insisting this week he could not feel Tyson's punches in the first five but we caught up with trainer Adam booth on Tuesday to discuss what impact the addition of Anti label have on team fury. I only will be able to train pretty much any fighter. If if a fire is gonNA end intellect and you'll be able to work with him. I was and his coach and his manager. I learned from Andy as well and and he lived with me and the Times that we spent just sitting talking late at night listening to his stories. Nothing's he went through and he's understanding of circumstances educate educate me more than any other any fire of work with and and so I kind of I kind of seem now working with Padova as well who's a phenomenal. And where can we jason quickly us now. Couple of wins under a now Tyson fury in the biggest fight of the year. It makes me so so happy. is He's friend but also proud that I was his coach and it wasn't meant although he had known he still thought I was the one he needed to loan from little. Did He know the picking him. He's funny the way it works out because talk me and David. Hey that fight so nearly happened with hindsight a a better fight than most people thought the timing. David Hay was overwhelming favor. But it's just very strange the way it works out. Yeah we I mean we never under thirty ties because I knew the physical attributes he had. He's a better fighter now than he was then because of all the experiences he's gone so I believe we met at the right time back then but we always knew that he was a difficult financial box and then it wasn't this one sided fight. There was unfortunately never happened interesting. That I'm Adam booth saying. He was under his trainer but actually ended up learning plenty from him. Forget unbelievers with an annual Stewart's among time so eager to pick up stuff so much experience knowledge that Abbott Lew a wealth of knowledge. Stuff that he didn't know so yeah it's created and also the fight that makes chain that keeps I say too many times but it's a good chance with his weight in gold but without without a fight I've got talent D'Amato because you have to have the new you can just you can just be just an add on to a good fighter and I think about a realizes realizes that he's a good training producers champions but he also knows that he has to work with writer talent to fit is he's in cloud of course it's the same thing with Joe Neutral champions but you know arguably some of these files that have been without them but they're being champions with anyone the same year to good fighter before you met Joe. You're good fighting with him. Say there when training about eastern about Andy Teaching. You're teaching them stuff. When when we're training job will stop? Ask Us our opinion. All some of the lots of SPA in and they will say to me. Oh what do you think. That's one of the last. What he thinks about? Million assefy assefy opinions as well as a discussion at times. That's a sign of a great chain and that is open enough to still was. He laments did he. Make and knowledge is is the main thing. Of course you have you have to be understand the fought your you have to be able to to I. I can't forget across your words if you can translate to the to the fight. There's no dialogue than it. You know good but I think ultimately relationship with your mind you have and I think that's massively important. Some some people they might have a great train and a great fighter but the Fitz. Not There I think you have to be you as a trainer was all you have to be open minded and always willing to learn yourself and again listening to your fought as opinion on certain things because you know one thing. What you think offer won't be different? burnable Evan every every fall as different and you'll take in different ways and the training of see that you'll see him. I'm focusing on his training. This will need to treat him differently to to our tree in. You just need to know. The personal is in a bit of a psychologist of a teacher for every year. It's not it's not an easy job. Thought people have asked me in time. WOULD YOU BE TRAINED IN I. I don't know if I'd be any good but I don't know it's just takes so much of your life I it's a real commitment to really is an and they. They don't get enough credit credit. I always say the Knicks trailing ourselves to the day I die but still they don't get enough credit for the time and the effort they put in. You've you've been which I walked eight years. Yeah did you think that. Even when he say with a trainer for a long period of time that you can still learn new skills yeah beliefs especially the train is always learning new skills himself I think that has like Joe's always trying to adopt and trying Chana improved his own game as training as a coach and as a as a condition of any brings new people in as well so jobs not like on of judges thinking thank knows it all and what does the why is always looking to newton new avenues to go down so obviously with me believe in a way and so of the occur the avodados been a bit stop-start and always come to Joe. Fresh antisocial always fresh every time major work as a fresh start again anyway so we always acute things fresh and I feel as though when I go down to Joe fresh things again. You know so Louisville force fill us being trained in this day and age is quite cautious. No 'cause don't boxes swapping trainers more than they are actual footwear trainers. It's ridiculous really and I understand that you've got to go where you're happy to have that kind of loyalty and there's little you can you do what's best for yourself and you feel Joe's Kasuga no-go emissions you care for long. Show tough to go off fellas though that nothing. If Joe can't what might mule champion nobody you know and you know a fellow amish place. I've never felt the phone call. Call a change. Your fellow atrocious Joe. Villa's army neurons and if if anybody might be jumping Joe County and the fact that Joe listens this to other fighters as well. 'cause sometimes success breeds success in gyms and Marvis to do with you. Just you're watching especially we have a fight really good in Jim. Syphilis Sufism scallops Count Smith. See He's the he's the head figurehead. Then you're wrong with the good fight around when you're all new up you just get it makes you inspires you. The cows idiom is a prime example. All the facts come after the end because I was a fantastic trainer the fact Joe was there. The May job affect your was there. No they just you just learned off him watching him no not even constantly watch seeing things do in it and you pick it up and the fact that Joe still asking fighters questions though really British intelligence when I was over in Kiev with Alexander Sick. He's someone that likes chopping changes trainers because he believes for him personally that he he needs to do that to keep learning that. That's that's his process on it. We used to be happy. It's your career trainers. Get the hat the hat. The pushed aside qubit ultimately. Is the boxes career. It's a very short career. You have to do what you think's right for yourself whether a to not be wrong or these shows disloyalty as long as you do it like a man or a woman and start say listen. I'm leaving these reasons. Why rather than a lot of people just disappear? And that's why did they get called names in respect if you just go in. I'd to change trainers my first professional trained. I love the mountains to let him know but I have to go. I have to know it just wasn't the right fit for me and I went onto another train and become a world champion but I want to do is what I learned from my first trainer. She it wasn't the right fit and I had this had him like Amana twenty. One I move in on Saudi Pat. I gotta go and it was horrible improve my hat but I had to do it if I didn't do it. I wouldn't have been able champion so we think the fact that you believe that he's the right man for you and the fact that you what are you talking about all these good training but the fact that anything is open is what you're saying. Edible speaking to other fighters respect on both sides isn't it yes right and vice versa. I think so. And then we'll show and say he's Joe Totals Zoom Avila. Take your opinion into account as well and only thinks he's one than eat we do sit down. We'll come up to like say five week and what was the. We'll sit down together when we talk about this and you're less may waffling can say what he thinks and and he does that. We've always fought in an essay. We we as a team we all have told to reach over and advise each over and see 'cause sometimes you know he you you see over things they were people. Don't see and I you know so. I think the important thing as well as even though you pay your trainer he has to be your a boss in that. Jim is in charge. I think that's you see that. People Seem Hamid had Brandon Ingram who's charging Mandeville Stuart appleby. He was a better trainer. Maybe but maybe maybe not because Brandon Ingram was an all time great trainer but he was the boss. Now's is on. It's on environment then in the gym as I think that not downfall bread of a dot was quite the same single the fact that you make your boss and asked swapping trainers. I think. That's what he always in charge so you are not going to do that now do tomorrow. Hundred Percent Joey's Jim chosen charge and yeah and then also Joe Gallagher. That's the man that lives in breezes for a main pay using champs. Count there with Phil Mattingly you. We learned off Amyot and what he did the minor role and train. The Amish is very important because you more the amateurs it may be. Technically many he it better than the professional trainers and then through the and he's gone through every solve offing. People know as much about graphing Joe at a champion everything everything junior as seen Arabia's John Learning Aba and everything so he's he's is us all the way through just quickly before we go going back to the world of your rematch comments about fury's punch power. What do you make is is that some sort of tactics to try and get in infuriates head? You think I think it will be in a more aggressive finally changed trainers obviously to be more aggressive at talking about policy. So you can't come at me I don't we. We all know agreement that he's not. I don't think you would do that. I think we can punch wounded doc because they can be on the boss whose feet he never sets itself when he punches the move away so he doesn't know what you do you give away your movement to get more Apollo. I don't know whether that's especially in this fight with us. A sense moved to do. I think he needs to be mobile as ever. They're definitely he can punch north north. There's no question in not count points lot Waldo so yesterday on the balls of his feet in those do way does off seen a few clips of him training when he sits down and evaded evaded. Let's say shots go and come on cake. I'm really not a stall is not the way he fights and you know he that's probably why we've washing the power we probably can can fascinate rematch before we go. I just want to mention the news. That Tommy Coils has decided to a hang up his gloves as weak. And I don't know if you've seen indies at Tommy's done a pretty emotional sort of spiciest marginal stuff as the last six Monti's it's been a bit of a bad place but you decision from to the fact he'd been about places right. I think you know the the any said he fights was never gonNA pull wealth Longview Hugo in on and I think he never thought he would have been great friends at a couple of quickies. Great Life through it and we all of boxing. The hardest thing to do with anything you I love usually for all of us. Can we start with a young is let the view life. Go be at some point. You have to kill you and fulfill a long time. You've got to kind of feel out that void but it's the right decision and we shall. He's been a great career and he's been a joy to watch is a brilliant characters I saw in the ring and I'll tell you the joy to watch and you've got to wish him well and I think he's I think he's got the time spot on. Just how hard is it is making that decision. Isn't it because there's always gonna be that one more fight tangled in front of you and having the gumption not. I'm going to get out now. Must be so hard and forget about the Kalam. Hallam is now at the stage where this time one more extra payday. It's what do I do. It defines you people who who you Cam Alan Johnson of the box. It defines you as a person. It doesn't feel it so you know nothing else but that an all of a sudden you're not you just can't sombody John Tommy Card. You just just a weird attacked. We sounds the street. I told my Kinda explainable. She just just me no is plenty to Gabe. Have you thought about an exit plan. Rarely to be honest. The full of boxes in scares me a little bell. We honest Obviously comes to all Sometimes it comes to people quick as domain. When when the time comes you know? I think I'll I'll be honest honest for speaking of Tommy You know he's had a great career easy easy sort of overachieved if you cut out the modern sound lofe home the his his stolen very well for himself of boxers need other great career. UK's law audible and he's got plenty goes goes well show. He's ugly family. He's got a few businesses going on so he's got plenty to keep him busy keeping active to keep his mom. What Boy Say I see I see the lights emotional and see saw to see that you know on the une- knows while Swat what from to do in overseas or what Tom and ultimately you'll get over it and look back and you'll be checked a bit. mooks boxes were just kids from consular state with had nothing to do so. We went on a boxing gym. And then we go and we. We lifted life that we never thought we live. When you look back like that and you just go while I didn't didn't just do a didn't follow my dad mundane job? I just took a risk in my twenties and follow ambitious follows dream and took me wherever titled Intercontinental The challenge or whatever it is and when when you when you get older and you get the Asiago pack and go and he will look back and go home. Look you know bless all Labus Wish Tommy the best retirement. He's been great to watch. That's it for us this week. Thank you thank you for joining us on C.. To give a right on items please please feel free to do so but if not we'll see next week.

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Kal Yafai & Shannon Courtenay join Barry Jones & Gary Logan

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

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Kal Yafai & Shannon Courtenay join Barry Jones & Gary Logan

"Hi This is David Diamante. And you're listening to the to-to-to podcast podcast Hello welcome to Ringside to-to-to. Oh The Sky Sports boxing podcast. I'm Barry Jones and I'm happy to say that this week join by the smooth voice himself Gary Logan Eight and the current and WBZ super flyweight champion county. Fight always is nice to see you guys. Thanks for coming in I WANNA even. Cal is a world champion. Debbie superfluity champion currently the longest active British reigning champion. Today which is fantastic. You stood only the second in the room with in Yemen dissent outside that anyway flirting dream fight being confirmed this week against four world. Champion Roman chocolate not no Gonzalez Gonzalez Trent everybody Frisco Texas Lot me gene control of one in for a long time and he's out there and get to getting you must be a massive fan but we all our me. You've been a bit of a superfan career. Huge Fan of what all the way through and into one of his fights in in La and he's unbelievable. What were right over to you you really just to just to see I was on vacation in? La Book of Mine trip over to the forum in the Inglewood Tanglewood and south to dispose of a episodes into rounds. Oh Wow he was amazing ah on. ESPN great to watch these. Is this on what you know what you gain when you see it guaranteed entertainment and you get the fighting which is surreal. Maybe a little bit was when he was announced for. Now it's just saw saw. Just gotTa do. What do we install improved to the world dominique for and it's a massive characters in the Ford Center at the staff twelve thousand seat arena? Which is going to act out for sure but you go mikey facing Jesse vagus which is a huge fight for maybe for boxing fans general certainly LIFA? The British boxing fans. You against Gonzalez is not only a great fight. US guaranteed to be lots of action but intriguing. Because you've established yourself knows a good fighter. Maybe not as active enough. I I would say but you you've shown equality going away from home. Hasn't been a problem because last year last three Pfizer being on on your foot on on a new case earlier team but if I apologise maybe not. That Gonzalez was a few years ago. But it's still no could still lag you. Maybe except for the losses that he was still being the pound for pound this these-these still lack of funds to the division steetch with quality fighters Eastern on his day to be any one hundred percent. And and that's what I need democracy at this point on big name the big challenge anti-death that fear factor to go for foreign summation to make sure that I'm going to bed thinking about the opponent waking up thinking about now opponent has been a frustration creation. Now you haven't been able to get Kushner defend your title and good performances but you are merely to get some of those big name around you but you have to get him in the ring. It's been it has been frustrating and not going to lie but then obviously are also Straw to vote for this for December and then he pulled out with a hand injury. Push back to the January. The Mommy show coming up and then he pulled out a game. So that was a very forthright and And then obviously Eddie worked his magic and and got me. The Big One chocolate fought that we've been looking for a long time Gary a huge party a better fight. Everything Ping Amazon Droop. Leaving everything happens for a reason truly degree. Then you'll you'll accept that now you've acknowledged it now. Kushner wanted to also ask you. Where are you GonNa do for sparring where you'll be done? Who would you go to the states and get styles styles so similar Hispanic style? That's a bit more similar to talk tesa yet. So I've got sparring day a mortgage far now of air book this woman in Sparring for when I go over there and then two weeks so yeah I think that's four so it and when will you go over confident Pfizer Twenty February bitches. No sooner gave looking at going on the eleventh. Okay I'll be over there for two and a half base yourself coast to the Yes Frisco. Probably About fifteen twenty minutes away from Frisco so you have cocoa gyms and your brothers. Both the camel's going to be fighting in the twenty seventh of Imagine Galilee got the the the qualifies as well so we'll come over the Gemayel's Gemayel's Komo remain and did to train and we've made it will fly out only eleven inside. The whole time cannot for the weekend the point and then get back. These Olympic qualifiers. This year is probably won't do many Styles yeah we're going to do any sparring comfortably can be there for the foyer and then get back in your pocket a legend. Let's be honest it and we do want to make audible Gonzales. Because I imagine that's what a lot of is being fee right now and and you're the champion of course but were they found only your super fan with offensive of of Gonzalez hundred percent that they live. What's important and even after the foyer? I will get picked you Says I would never even go to invoices after FEU because you'll be sad to what you said also get to in so many ways guy they're going to be so bittersweet that you get the only people say they get the box that many ways and you you've actually you've pretty intriguing. What was it what was it does become rivals? So that's that's the that's the time for. The Post really intrigued but talks an idol yours is almost unheard of to be. Everybody's done. It broke. Marciano did it with Joe. Louis was his idol. Everybody's done it. Most most of the top five is would have done it basically they fight as You know that preceded them will will coming up just underneath underneath them. Boulevard realize them you mentioned you just read on not nothing bombing company go was the in standard heavyweight and even though few had beaten him you know because that was a British robbery. Aj's never going to look up to a click and and we've could reason you know the man dominated the The heavyweight for many years so it's going to be tremendous you all aside and you'll have a game plan you know and To say something about the game plan I think he's GONNA BE A. It's GonNa be a bit both I'm GonNa have to box him. Tom And I'M GONNA have to put it on Amazon's for But that's awesome on. But all I know is guaranteed action guaranteed. I think we've him what's what we've noticed now. Is He Is More stable yet before the wedding was chocolate eater. What he's prime that that's right? She's an incumbent with counters. And he's just starting Salani ever saw that she can take Virgil especially as you great job as well think necessarily something that's going to keep Bennett's don't you think yeah hundred percent that's K and that's the first thing I think about when whenever think about four appointment for me I think. Think about it work in the body beginning up bringing food amid on and attack in the body. Do you think you'll be stronger. Him Him all year most of them most definitely. I'm the naturally bigger man. I'm a I'm a very big superfly white and I've got very long arms resume flow as well so I WANNA be using abundant. Well the worst thing you can do because yes areas a wealth of experience like seventeen. We'll find something silly like that and only lost a one man in even in the choice of course but the rhythm once he gets into a rhythm and he's very had to stop and think again you you talking about the job that's the perfect weapon to knock your strong. It is all because we've decided that the thing that were very stuck out some it's just how strong it was And that's what really offset offset chocolates here incoming because let's face facts. He doesn't do for me outside. He's he's probably one of the best mid range fires. We'll see in this or any any of our era and That's that's the Real Sea Your Jab Beena Avant. You just won't allow him to get his radio job. Jobs Cave in general It re- reset but no one's perfect. Of course there's never been a perfect Ray Robinson in warwick the weaknesses. Have you seen any no. Yeah he's He's a bit wall sometimes with that left opioid and He he does the raw opening opening twenty frozen punches in Maine Punches so it is easy to become and stays early bit too long now. Yeah and and the bodies well yeah bodies attacked off. uh-huh I think I think a decent body puncher so calming that work as well and he probably wouldn't have 'cause he used to box in South American type. They were more than happy to stand in front of him. They won't have the allocated goes back from the pedigree of GBS score the amateur. It's a pivot. You have the to quick. Turn moving on the Tackett will be will be good for you. Know ICAN eager blocker in or chase. You if you run away bill really does put pressure go. I see your face. You're thinking you're going to be pushing back but there'd be times that he's got a really good fights shop angles. You can produce cool. I think we'll causing problems hundred percent them shop on them. semi-circles will be doing place you going to say that those members who cows is going crazy incredible rate punch your incredible punch jazz division. You know you just I still believe you make sure you move your heading between you punch again. Oversee pivot comes in as well. You know If you stand in front of images can I know you're a target and he just really still good at catching encounter isn't it. Yeah so maybe it's two thousand sixteen when you wanna tell Lewis Conception was feeling show I know this belisce rival that Offering this'll be bigger the win over the course of this year. Because it's just take it to another level I'll be good to white world champion and But this is a full white champion and a former POMPA pounding and they will give me the recognition of deserve and and it will tell me if I'm a world class for to an elite four and this will and especially in a way to a in a in a lower weight so guy was an understandable difficult. It is to get your name out there in the broader sense. No boxing fans knew you ask the brother sent. Unless you're unless you're the heavyweight all slightly below not people tend to not much interested dish or fights. I feel not just domestically stickler but worldwide's might multiple. You're on I think that. Get away the games against Gonzales. In the state they want to see you again. There's a there's a list of fighters there no equality names. No proven champions really will want to fight you then of course the world so their bills and saves two thousand sixteen when you when you beat dues conception but only five defenses assist activity. Yep that's to me. That's the biggest grin. Look good but that lack of momentum to worry up to up to last year the problem is as my hands yes of a very bad hands. So I'm always out for vocal soft every four. So it's an issue last year. We just not last year was hoping to forward towards more once I was GONNA fight doney. Nate says is in a unification in April either either hand injury and then before the push up about four weeks later but then the adamant if coupon vacated saw and that left me no Moslem to then monitoring June so we do not and then since since then I was just waiting to get the big. That's all I wanted after after a box in June are just wanted the big four so the has been a problem since insist area. Yeah the vote was been issue anyway. I'd operations on them as a pro. Obviously smaller close A lot worse than your heads of course in Scoble because people think about the fight billups trade inspiring. You have to hear a man's even more than what if avoid every training session gloves and then in China oil massage get get muscle but for that. They would seem to be a problem for me. I've got to the point where I don't even say anything goat out Gonoud's Skillman village being to catch you physically feel it when they go. It's on I couldn't punch touch me hands but it is what is I'll just get free. It's the way I think is no one's going to help me only can and do nothing beyond the trouble spot as well as the close relationship brothers and I was GonNa ask you you. I spat him with each other. How competitive is very very competitive It's a bit of a weird because we make allows ball is not that bad even though you'll -troit's so it's just put it on me and kill me out. Just move them around and Choi maneuver join US amongst beer but with every shot is gonNA. It'd be hard foot in shock. ECON economy cut those but you can start off over noise and easy but at once other than if he misses and then you catch him with a North Carolina Finish putsches stay in the ring the the no but we never really do many. Oh Open Spas. And when we do spies more tech technical and we'll do it all the odds you know it'd be okay and then you got many open it just don't fuss. And then he just turned into World War is. There's all kinds of okay but back to your job. You're not offending to look what happened though to just say you get the perfect results with Stannett performance. You beat a legend what what would be your next move if you had a hundred control. What was going on expert? Would you Look I wanNA big unification new. Yeah I'll chase a certified game console cop and continues basically. Yeah so Car that up and be a massive for insights. Now what about the British box is being pre. Mostly remember to you. Don't WanNa go on with this now. For domestic rivalries. You you elevate you in the public consciousness that you know that you have those already knows about pain without mentioning a new bank. They just that's is just a make os and I think you saw the have a ready-made rival in Charlie Edwards. Is that if you are bigger fish to fry right now now. But he shouldn't interphone world champion below technically hasn't lost that title. That didn't lose that nickel until each moved relinquished it. You might be going away the purview. But if he does decide to stop a superfly good abandoned wait. Is that interest you. Oh Yeah of course that was question. Yes he got interested in them for. Its if you make sense and freemasons and especially financially or not but put a ise right now. We've got bigger fish to fry of options overnight. So He's an option book development appall. Because guys that that's A. It's an intriguing to stalls for two different personalities totally certainly You know flash versus you know real amid Charlie is charlie flash spit more Fleischer with his mouth and he's with he's actually actions in the rain. which really good fundamentally arguments sound really really sound? It'd be really good to see up against somebody that will Jewish the ponant east face. Don't no no no no. They're not they're not as good as cow. So and that and that way. We know that I can't see Charlie gallops away. I see that happening challenge just makes probably be talking for a while until you become a huge name. You know if you beat Gonzales. Then you'll be bigger than you tell so. You have pretty much talk control. You can go where you want but notice Holland. You still be a name that people are going to be after but when winnable title that's how is defined you so you can't just instructive wait. You can't relinquish their title. I think that might be the problem comfortably at flyweight where he was too big for the weight but if he moves up the baton chip that he had was about as as you would do anything talk radio but of course you realize that that's your brain but have not belt without that belt you in your power goes down in there and you will have people to fight. You goes away and is an ugly with a bit for domestic rivals. You can say a perfect view of China the perfect backburner fight. Should you become solace and then you have first defense at home. Because Charlie I am none of that happen. A bomb. Paul I Charlie the see. That's what I want to see it. Remember out that's the number one phoenix sales in books in. Don't want people that like each of you lie. It can reach Gonzales the fat if you will find anybody else trump was hit Okazaki. Who you like? It'd be born. He's revered is the sale eh questions about him enough to repel you let alone Up a you have to be in. But then you and Charlie make less choosy thirty jucy. They're always be there for me when when all year and that's the point actually talking about coming home they pick the champion already so you taught avenue homecoming. After begin legend. That's what would also can you prepare it at the chances these are you might have to stay boxing stateside because that's where you're going to be making a statement and all those most of those fighters based off fighting for US TV networks. That the other than Bob Remember what happened to do that while we're having been the sites are going down holiday and everything but I think I'll I'll continue to stifle and over the last couple years of enjoyed it and on a mighty blow the money doing it so wanna carry on doing it and make a moment and an. It's all about the money really is I was GONNA say On the same team as Joshua and calls. Aj still waiting to confirm its next defense but we caught up with the unified champion this week. I'm reports Lincoln Music. Music should not be taken lightly. We mean business. You WanNa find the best. I go to these meetings. I don't really post about that. People know that you're about life when it comes to his heavyweight boxing. Can you find the best in the division. That's the UH the best cruiserweight that we've ever seen and I want to compete with him. Coming up to heavyweight cruiserweight early food phenomenon. It was the same music on and do great things but before we see that potential yes the comfort of the division. And I'll be the first one to challenge them. UK fight fans at desperate aspect to see you fight back in the UK and not for. Here's Alexander Ovechkin. What September two thousand eighteen tottenham has been a marked as a possible destination? I mean is that likely impossible. Why not so great pechiney? I think the reasons is because it's crazy to say this but Wembley Salvador and it's crazy to think that we can just very Wimbley. Cardiff art is is a blessing so to even have the opportunity to Tottenham is a blessing from. I'll be happy why in the two thousand opportunities although there's a big buzzer on heavyweight division right now and them. The more people to come to more than Mary is open is I was in Saudi Arabia for Andrew. Release fight over there. You didn't even want to mention the possibility of find you. Only Waldo Tyson fury. You said you've got business to do you handle that business. Those questions all GonNa come now. That Jones hawala to all Tyson Fury. Why is the real likely to find any? Are Those guys back in two thousand twenty or early twenty twenty one. We've had means that same me in the music's manager often had another mean potentially to kind of offering place to solidify a fight before they've even had therefore have mine expert providing we both win for a reason everyone was quoted. Two women was so big. Had A great left so it's GonNa be a much of a great books much and that's the one that everyone wants to see so well We had a nice great potential. I heard they have a firefight lined up towards the end of the year but we have to cover all in something. I guess what is attention by the wins wins himself. You know even on this much I wanna see how can manipulate my contracting out of it and fight for the undisputed championship infuriates. Some things about your Tyson. Fury always does that if you fight you until Walter. That fight ends into round. You'll get knocked out. What do you make of that opinion? Sorry from Tyson Fury Eric. That's the same man that Charles Mind to beat me Josie. Pockets of being the first time I would have listened the second time you get it wrong. You start realizing is available. Tyson fury just as even said they spoke to McGregor on the on the phone and that was allies law. So what can we believe when it comes to these days. He's well talks Tyson fury but it looks like Kubrick pull up it's going to be the next. Aj opponent to Joshua. It's a good. It's a necessary opponent. Because if he doesn't find me get strict mandatory so but As far as styles go off to the difficult star of release because it is difficult for him punching down after you know punching around about six four six mark level that is the last few years Someone like who lives source suits imperfectly. Who Lives Not GonNa get any better you know it would shock should he give? AJ In trouble. Because I can't see. Aj Not hit initially Jay Khadka VJ catches you and you know we could get back to scene. I mean it's amazing what you can't win Kenya the box near enough off the perfect fight off the coming of such a shocking loss loss would have affected confidence and he showed us that could change your style books on the back foot move move laterally us a wonderful jab and. He's still got pilloried by some bus and he was a boring. I don't think it's boring business tactics but you also looked as well. It'd be critical a little bit gun. Shy you're not scared again. Hit but where are you getting. Hit where we didn't really see that before and and I think that's the deficit where people used to see a certain style of fighter then all of a sudden changes tax which is good and he barks really well but he did it like he was over wary again in hits and maybe withdraw confidence with some like Rousseau. Could box can also bank Yeah that's true truths good job scope. Decent Ryan unbought himself is able and are just that age as younger. I shop or be galvanized. It'd be absolutely galvanized coming to talk to them. So the mount not spur fantastic fan. Did I tell you that. They also celebrate the deals come into Calif essentially we've been the grandfather from the Mo since Granville and probably around the same time so the forties when he actually knew each other because carly was basically a lot of people came over to the name surveys. All as Jamaica's came. I'm over fifty. S even into cash over the world. By the way we're making you about Cardiff has produced used some fighters the fight brothers who've reception and causing Nevada. uh-huh you'll get a bigger perception off this. They know your your grandfather was burned Jones. You actually genuinely could be uh lucky you be green style and if so my family to needy boy attack you know. Aj could you actually been in the camp and we're talking about maybe another confidence building. Five eighty mentally strong is honesty very very mentally strong and I think it just shows the way Kambas from London today. Strong is He's even when he's from his image as from he box. We went to tournaments two thousand eleven Europeans in Turkey he got stopped borrow fat remaining That was in June twenty eleven. You went wrong obvious. Many went on to govern to the world championships in October. Von which as John in Azerbaijan should not. He made the made a rapid improvement in his box. And everything and show Nan. How mentally strongly was And then obviously after a week coming back and then you know boxing. Boxing twelve rounds show. How mentally strong is he's got the heart and he's got the he's got the ability to to do that as well? which many people questioned what you show which I didn't really know championships? We're not the European champion show is a pattern of improvement here and learn from your mistakes and I think that's really interesting because both amateurs now he's proved. I mean that would have been you know at that time. Felt Castro fit to getting stopped by the Romanian. I remember watching. Nah Come back in a year later. Listen you're late. Olympic champion uncomfortable. I mean the fight against the camera he could have gone away to those. Appoint someone the performs really well. And he's Cuba. Maybe he's resilience and the discipline the issue because there was a a everybody said he was gone. Shaw there was a couple of times when you could see you saw grimacing and so half looking Saudis aren't Roberson. Let me let ends go and you could see to rope. It said to him now. We just do business tonight against the win. That's exactly what exactly accolades see. He wanted to stand in a row and it was soon gunshot. Those are just the haters. Those are just the hey is he that. So he with Robert mccracken. Did he really just do whatever over. And I could see enough for one hundred percents trust and you can see when when shopping Cowan I do every sold and I can see this way to go gave them wanting to put on him in. Well you can see that shot and tight last breath. Do you coach. Do I'm pretty. I'm pretty awesome. I'm pretty disciplined when my bit. Marina might David because on yachts party show on ESPN and it was my first American American Foreign American and I put the guy down in the first round U. Corner and then look at a rush back doc. In Coimbra the sweet leftover equal made exact signed. Tom And I quote me Bangladesh China. My legs borakove under dropping freephone. I four times the proper war that need a Book it may make good TV being of about what you need to it. Will Josh if you just read the attended a meeting with T. music obviously talking about potential. Maybe in twenty twenty is typical for a fighter. Be that involved in negotiations. MOSO now Mussa. Now I mean you you Let's see that's that's a real problem. Bob He wants to own it he wants to be involved in everything from the talk to them. Bought Movies Industry and Antony's anti knows out to train train knows how to prepare for something like a business me in. Will you talk about a guy that I'll tell you a story. This is disciplined. This guy is much he lives. The life takes a while because to be off custody. Excel Jim and I'm trading the client downstairs wanted to switch to you. He just POPs in Salo just POPs in my clients look over. My shoulder is getting wider and wider. And say says for appropriate Salo clients like talk he's just like looking at Aj from toe to head thinking. This guy's huge age ain't he's here and I said Semis again as opposing thing in his training guy. And if you're really good and at the side of his eyes so dumbbell and while he's talking just unconsciously what he's talking to us is just curling skirting the Dumbo. They showed a boxing while he was. He's never met before. But this is the this is what he is about. His own. E force is work were were were also he was from him on the business side of his career. The there's nothing own in that I. I think I'll pass everything was going on but you can trust. Trust people coast you to do that on your behalf. It depends. I don't think we've AJ's about trust about being about it because remember this is a God. It's his own. Promotional Company does at Saint Lawrence a cody. They're all under his umbrella. Oh and he can't be the man if he doesn't know how the business really works. Course I understand that but also his career becomes before as you always do the country for anybody anything in your. You have to be selfish person alive when you're a professional bugs but it takes away from you your focus going to meetings when you should be training or not not not not so much go into meetings. You have the time but we're your mind encampment. Noble Way your mind is there you go from here would you go from there and also because no. Eso Much on his plate that you have to distribute the workload. Yeah Yeah I guess so but I just think that right now. He thinks it's something that he can handle and he happy enough doing it God willing to get through coup. Who live in? And what are we talking. Water and fury or Lucic either way. It's an exciting twenty twenty twenty twenty one in speaking a coping. Thank you can cope with a style. Hoosier Guscott visit the difficult staffer. WHO's it would be very difficult to locals is so clever just beating range but talking getting you to punch in and punch straight officials SCHERZER's Heavyweights do is for me. I I think he's clever in a fury because I think I think he called a potential to be more damaging because you bit more spots than fury. What'd you think USA? He's of of known him enough. Salem like two thousand and seven I'm into this is a guy that used to be a middle white. He go from Middle Wayne too heavy too heavy then back to Lana Jones Dan he must be given away. Twelve to for in Keillor's Gioja at night. And he bashed him. So so this guy can fly e confide these microbes completely notes math characters. Like I mentioned this fury wall negative negative effect. Do you think Joshu could potentially fight the winner next. That will happen if they could. You can afford thoughts lockdown. Yeah all call on other thing to think you'll be dot for sick and fight was aboard. Bore like say while it doesn't just doesn't land anything doesn't get their fury. Fury dominates it for twelve rounds like he near enough. Did the last awesome knockdowns. Why would there be? It's not rubies varies actually box. These way poorly himself in shape out of the rematch match reject. Aj so we. We tend to forget these things very quickly did potential rematch. So if he if he if he told me as well as many people think he will. I personally don't think this is gonNA be so exciting. I really do seem to the fact that we now know that while do if he touches does anyone they go question of Cam. Few stay away and outboxed him clinically if he does that and wins it convincingly. I don't know if there's an adult life Joshua con get in there for that third front but then the only the politics come in because say Montagne Sean Glum. WB A number contain And you know there's a lot of money he's step aside so you might Save Zion and they might say because you never know. UCS people might say. Let's force seem to fight us. He doesn't fall as we at least a portion of the tire but best someone up for that then we come up for unification against the winner of wilder fury or Joshua either way after a slow January picks pace can really the week after Yo- pick in Texas of course we've those guys both returned to the UK and excitement in Manchester ops go quick facing John Carroll. They like each other yeah. They've got a bit of a spotlight me. Back and forth and also Karen Johnson also challenges for the European Pinzel possible this week. WHO's been waiting patiently for this fight to be confined going store or possibly there was gonna GonNa be out there not they Motorcycle made mandatory for the European bowl. So non-qualified walls boy. I'm looking for a way to get by in the would you know about the Russians. Russian south police beat him with these. To`soon these mccovey cove and Gumbo. He's only been stopped by Kovolev tough test. Oh definitely hey great far washed in May he looks good fire and you say go stop by cover live but it was only fruit coats really so you know he looks at the guy and he looks very active even he looks good so you know. I'm expecting a very taught me. I'm vicious to the shakers. And so when against Turbie Evan you had another good win against Schulman human. What are what are the plans? Callum Johnson in twenty twenty. I'd say always say go first of all it's kind of a world Tosho APLOMB may not want to. Do you know all of a sudden I off to a good start last year. Then I'll go injured so you know sort of put a hold hold on McRae or again this year in early March and then came from going this year. Hopefully well. You're always clearly own well. Todd Lamb bishop earlier this month enhanced that he would like to make that fight between you and see if that fun inch issue or you looking past Joshua annisten interests me I think I'd say like say In People's opinions in the best to burn you know some people having company Some people think may some people say you know so far say interests me and that will get made And like I say as long as money's going and my sense and boy in my mind businesses to get we'll talk for First and foremost if he's if a baby together then after being brought together as we're seeing last year I mean Got Offered we'll talk fucking spitball. Couldn't take for injury show. You know we don't what's GonNa Happen Tomorrow for you know twenty five against whoever callum faces. Russian Eagle Mikal. Kim The only stop by and he's looking to build on operate. Performance gains to win against show Monaghan and it kind of does win came to British Komo and European tiles pretty good company as Joe Saunders. Did it more recent Tony Simpson. Did it Lloyd Honeyghan. Did it one John on county did it go. Hand will taught all before you swing t to get you got all the all the young says. No Hey man yeah so yeah. You've been great company and lived on it. I mean go. She had Turbie of over and he vita didn't he he's going on. The bond was big because they were pushing them in. The states didn't quite strong. Isn't he cal. All very strong gawker foods hard as well. It's obviously Eddie. Who is talking about is keen to meet Johnson? Fantasies Joshua Brazzi also count. You'll know a lot about what you think he's ready for. Step up it could. Johnson has proved that proved that he's world class. And no doubt about it. But tabbies. Tab is a beast for ballroom of Batavia thousand ten to brother Lemons over heavyweight for fourteen sparring come over Russia and knocking people out in I was I was really impressed of how he's continued. Vineyards stamina against void is because you got birdie tired overweight now but he just kept coming. Go visit that void for it is was very very intimidated. By power. Knows Ryan's body rigged. I think some of them demons from the image of course come into play playboy Johnson voisine but that. That's that's the that's the juicy winning Boise Johnson here. He's in good for finding component. Here I think around the what's actually be see what he does wrong. May He's Xena. He's been a couple of times and the number one thing. A lot of people tend to lose with deal quite clear quite quickly because he's head movement is really pretty. Good is composure. Nothing fancy he keeps you nothing. He's often those who really lost. We were against call tonight so similar to Callum Johnson in many ways to win a name. Monaghan there's some really good if he's just been the contractor costs which is nice boss. I could tasks might be a guy who's going to be looking to challenge. Joe Joe Gallagher's man Joseba and he's going bats. We really want to get back in the middle of the figure. It's exciting division but good. Yeah but with all their the devil Culpa Tuya Alvarez that's not the Connecticut that Voracek per scall- who just not tell over the Jack Rabbit thinks it'd be an Ramirez US moving up the suit Hoover up to light heavy as well as he had the vision and being St. Thank you got three three Russians. Two two Ukrainian saying this for the last two years Russians. They don't even come in. You know every wait you better be on your PS and QS fundamental because these are most of these guys of confer their their version of teams in Nevada. Even more fights against each ave spotty Giardi boxy javer national championships the bishops we have got to up our game we got show them no fear and make sure we're properly conditioned I mean I don't. It's not something that no coach doesn't report impose the Russians are here the Russians hitting the division kids. It was the the Yanks when we were kids or my dad would does dominate it. World rankings. Knife you go through these rankings. Now you'll see a fair fish of Russians Ukrainians wherever those eastern European exciting near familiar. As long as it is for you. This is totally. You are made of Saudis. All the verbiage went made a legend a fanfare for us. All all going to be. The things are not as welcome. Female fighter really made a name for herself last year. It's the baby assassin. Shannon Courtney Shannon great great view on the show and they'd be waiting a while thanks patience and it's been a busy two thousand ninety five fights since to improve five five and nine months. It's very much excellent. Unbelievable twelve my first year. I I think the team but five in nine months good off rain joy. I think the whole the last year's gone very quickly. It's been a little bit of Blah Blah. I've enjoyed it so much improved inside and outliving this year. Not by myself because exciting when you're especially trying when it gets really tough you're by yourself as well the person's I am taking a which is always benefit about you resolve. What will you you can how how tape? You really can't take when when times get toughest when he myself anew surroundings as well so it's it's been really good here surrounded firefights nine months. You pretty much lived in the gym for me. Presume I have never campoy. Haven't I've had had to cancel two days but I'd probably above the minimum one. I have not been in the gym. Because I've been squad I and just visit US Minagawa. Can't wait get MISSA session and I hate missing. Training trained martial law is menacing guys. These things got the away life. Be Your way of life. It's not something you do. In and soon as you're you're on the final you're playing a video game is called equal. Concentrate and thinking about what you're GonNa do better next day. What you've learned that day because you just don't forget coach because then then you give everything if you'll go and then you ordinate? Could you WANNA do. Hey you're not going to give everything but I go up on. Sunk sides hit the gym. It's my passion. It's my love. You give everything hyphenate rewarding in future I did at the Stage Korea. Where really whatever you could you? I'm hoping folger's but it's not about many right now. It's literally about just the excitement of to improve and building Iraq. Oh then obviously progressing. Money's a bonus but to be honest. Va Forget. Don't say you do nothing because people be listening changing the contract if you take away the TV that the social media just fight. If I could just box and just the box Fox in a genuinely woulda because I just loved fight. Boxing Change Your Life than they really are different. Totally different platform to project changed when I saved my life more hundred percent center outside her fight against repsonse. These more was one of the best fights. I've seen male male female in a long time. It's up there in the top ten. It was that good. It was very good show but that she didn't prove that because I've watched a couple of months for that in full Shen Kuneva to bash against his own deficiency. Some more you re. I mean this was a good fire and she just outlasted her and just punctures radiophone. Does it the thing is being a female boxer and and with the way you look. It's a marketing tool. Of course I and you uh-huh that's but you have to be able to fight coup so we have the proof more that you can find that limbic background Ronda. Not Come into the game with Goldman like the Glock Khaitina or even a little. Bit Background on Marshall's goal. So when I did first time prior it was a case okay. So if people didn't know who I was she's only because of how she looks as it on typical female box so when it comes to now got the the David. Hey Braves and I'm like no makeup on business and you actually. She likes to fight. She can she content. How the tear up ettelaat perspective on all about Franken stereotypes? Usually you got no gatty. Stretch stretch to really fight test real good looking guy and he any and they used that to him but he could fight there until it was. It's the same David videos on Jeevan Gills and concentrate. You can go away from the from the tool but you obviously you have to totally focus on you can fight. That's not. There's one that you want people to. Did you feel a need to show. You could fight more than maybe other like methods is no one cared like but it was take a look back now so she's sitting here talking to you about probably on my debut is forty chasing the biggest shocks in. Can I WANNA point kind of can I don't care about getting tagged at a now is about being clever books in his off getting he is not here and making sure you hit like I'm avoiding voiding entanglement these little tabs to prove to war. I want to be on the easy part. Anyone can throw. Punches voice. said that you know. Boxing is a martial art and it should be the reason. And why they're the best in word excel what they do. All pound for pound fires are the guys are not only can punch they can defend themselves. You look at you. Can you look at Ulama. Imaging Cozy Crawford's they can defend themselves to cross the canal for me and this is very popular and I think you've seen this in many ways. Different levels learns from every fight their veep picks up new for the for the to either be more defensive even though he's trying to attacking attacking a new. You've told them I used to news and massively improved fast. Couple of fights was purely changing my style and learning a new style and the next to a free was adding to Moscow adapting and learn the gym into the ring and forget the cameras being on new. You can't see you can't hear in Arcand. Hey or see anyone you have nothing even goes onto Jimmy screaming account Hin- but the PAS I say fuck down Schrafft's McCone up Luke Kuhn Up. That's what I told my main. So think fee learn where before and it's also even have an eye on the treadmill doing sprints what had previously on the screen in front of me and in between you minute raised on writing down every mistake they can make in in that fight to make sure that I can next. I say toss should have bring back leg back fervor when I'm dropping to eight and I wanna I wanNA WANNA IMPO employees. The interesting thing about that is. I'm such a thinking you'd WanNa run a machine but the film we're your fight. We have to remember. We got video cassettes that we had to pay twenty pounds to get the shit. I mean. Yeah you're so because when we box amateur charge you or even most pro. He didn't know what you're looking at. You heard about them. Be Lucky enough to get video cassette opponent. I I never saw the guy. Boxer multi never seen inbox. Wow My books are sold Bowen's and I didn't always a southpaw until the bell went happened to my second school I six. I think it was like because I don't also and I never have done old at the time to study. I've never also into the day before the way I say to. Whoever got I think it was a day of the fi or a data mom? She's she's now Adam. She's a southpaw. Aw as usual food another female for Scotland of course Blah. She's not an James. She's being trained Bossa Melissa Down for SPINA. Relations Burke fiber feathers that she's amazing. I I saw. I went down to Lena. Bow God that two thousand and eleven or twelve. It must have been mobbing for in when I take into Sam because because I wanted to get carded linen seven condie city Denver and associates substance. Sam said whenever you want to come down come to any can what you're working out so much work in in an corner of my eye look across and little Blob is hitting the pads Sam but this skill must have been what she is now. She hasn't grown much more in tight but she must have been about eighty five kilos. She wanted to fifty seven kilos. Two years ago was amazed Hans Hans with quick but a controlled. She was really really good. A semi annual secret few pounds off. But you've here in Lo and behold. She's now we've added the thought lordly. It should be really good for you already. Have my first class. Well back in camp on a Monday and none is good. She's bounded compact and yeah. I think we're going to have some very exciting asked by lifelock is down. Is that just make you both the great one scraping. Adam is not about you as much as you say and having trade us. He won't be about Youtube winning rounds. He's interested in that he was saying you out to do something. So you get hit and sat and you send you out to do something for around. If you don't do that you'll get annoyed and you'll send out to do something to do and she she don't do it. You'll get an order so either way you get better because he's not interested in winning round there's no gym wars and that's why there's no Jim is about. My father is getting better can they. You know can they listen to you in the gym. Because if they can't listen to you in the gym they won't isn't you can find. Its van until and you have to reduce off the police redoing during the gym in the ring. It's become it's become a subconscious. What you do will will what you do will come out in what you don't do well in the gym? If you keep doing it at the gym is GonNa come out and find the most thing. It's sparring you could land ten fantastic harsh. owns the one show that will get mentioned to us the short that you get hit by. It's not the case that was a great you tack fat. Signed the focus more than it is. Because that's what needs improvement doing things Y.. I WanNa talk about a student. Why would you do your photo shots right as I said earlier? Anyone confronted show and this is what people need need to realize you know anyone and this is the number one thing about Mike Tyson. When when we was how gosh what a country was with the punches he was such a great boxing technician technician who happened to pump hard to forget? Good fighters moves on a female fighter with big ambitions because earlier Terry Hafer as okay tatum. But First Challenges Eva Wallstrom for the Sheffield actually every fires. The same Michael going into an a six rounder. That's still I still trees same. Yeah this extra pressure just wear much-maligned could change and winning winning the fight on February eighth But yeah ah it's just another fight for me. What do you know about How did you write able strong? I made a highly shes. WBZ Trumpian and almost five years. Now she's being the champion and she's got numerous defenses fuel controversial wins Feel it's my. She's almost far under. Says you count by five time on the poll numbers together when about Taylor I mean. Isn't that true linked to make but it's more than just the fact that you box in very white divisions in your life pros at the moment I do. She's actually Someone followed Kossi annoyed thrown off his until you much now so definitely idle K.. is reason why canes reason Johndroe sent me a message that Just seeing the females do professional boxing career So Yeah I. I have a lot of fun K.. Fun there's a lot saying Kay she's the best outlet and who wants to find the best and challenge yourself themselves. They don't try. And matter of fact your said imagine one thing in the chance to fight your. I'd always gonNA fight chocolate. Tt same sort of thing imagine if the lines and and they do cross you get a chance to how unbelievable would that be. And how strange would it be at Saint. John's strange I like I said before punch in the thanks for if asked now and we saw saying as well where are two rivals become you become your. I will so who knows uh teddy happened. Twenty years of age challenged challenged allegations Wallstrom. Is She too young or would you be to hungry. Maybe she's she looks good. She looks apart she came down to impart. She was Portland. All Go Boxing Extravaganza We report courtesy of Amy Andrews Loss Xavier Elite Champion and she came bench decent pads. Hoover coach Love Young Lady. She's about she says ah bit pads over here hauled Very aggressive and you know what she just said they really rings. Treat your should become your rivals you you know. And a roof is boxed. He's idle for the the world lot. Whatever like what we're talking about seventeen hundred seventeen now the man that will never happen again and be beaten outside? So what's going to happen as we sit here rookie. Monsanto beaten. Joseph J WILCO The Joe Louis Robert. Sorry so Yeah I think she thinks she's ready for Steffi. He knows he's business does he really does business. He wanted to put renewing this evening. She can win it. Or what have you seen much terry happen. I've seen above in very impressed by some people saying she too young. Maybe even maybe too old. It's just how good is is one point was one completely of appoint You step up and in Fema box in this. 'cause there's not much depth you kind of going from one level to the in betweens you take that jump and as a gamble. So that's why you have to get the most best valuable sparring and you can try and fill that gap in between sparring drew. You the failed. Don't ask Gaels or would you have to find you have to fill that gap can feel it. Gills is it young up and coming amateur gills or is it so we have a mixture spinal spa this week. Does the scrutiny had a go From Germany. So we've we've just got that last camp Dan Lewis boy with amateurs because he's working on my hands bane so if that is the best thing if I'm working on power away spargo's heavier heavier may my feet off cause I'm going to be naturally quick. 'cause lots in my head to get on my feet but bodmin elements it can be good spun chemical desperate with on the squad. This don't feel the pressure that that is that they all because there's not massive among the women fighting enjoyed as well that you have to go from a certain level up to five levels with the massive void in between free. Yeah it's GonNa be jumped when we do take boy we get in valuable spawning now and trying to learn as much and you know. I'm sure Tom connecting bring spun. And it's GonNa be button me but that's where you learn the most and that's what you do need to the you know what no go. Step up fun actually gave because on the via and if I'm GONNA the jump river the mindset going into win monster event especially inciting every stage you'll of at every stage of ramage create bashed in August passed up i. I'm George Cruden. ABC Then joined Fisher logical. Go bashed up by PORCO. PD draper then. Adjourn ripped apart bashed up our great young international courier road and you know that are going pro my first pro. I pro sparring partner was ex European champion Ken McKenzie kency brothers. So every level you get patched up but you come back you just learn spotlight spotlight. It's amazing it is until the journey of books in you man you're at is just not I am I do and you just think just all. I did almost untouched from the boxing business. You just you just do. If the love of the sport bulletin think every little thing revolved around boxing. I Love Boxing. Income families should like for. Why finally listening? Ah because you come into the family now. The next day I'm going to be going out walking I wanna rest Malek's Ah because it's not if you lose a match so what you don't gain points and you've got people to rely on Boxes Bul you can. You can lose your life. Box went on. You know they'll take an acceptable level. If she wins she she wants to. Katie Taylor locate. He's a few weeks above Do you see that happening realistically. Not Purely. Because of where they are. I think by the time the Terry's AH overby retired or should be probably are way above cushy one over something that shocked me was when Terry boxed on the same quarters Taytay last year she went to school for and listen. That's how I do Mazen. I personally if that was potentially there was one. Send me for Annapolis. And when he couldn't give him that much with men because I've been Mark Conway onus be some sort of element they when you thinking can we also couldn't couldn't tell you how she she she wins no eh. Women's boxing needs to be changed dramatically from from but I was boxing. It's been huge. Massive sellers forward but what will the Tasha Jonas against domestic shopping. They can both date Nagoya. Uh Aggressive. Come forward I'll be very both lovely women who's well I mean. They both came to say that. Yeah because they shantelle came and they both came to the old all day and they stayed all day and I can say certain certain celebrities. That wouldn't do that. They wouldn't give Rideau. There's so many young young women that were there it's it's it looked up to them and they stay there and they took pictures an ounce of questions uneasily gills. Nick Stars Dump Dumbo Jumbo's. Go leave for Lanny. Yeah and these skills are going to be exception. But then the next generation at Luke op these gills and these gills they're fulfilling their remits uh-huh and some because one they can find and given their time. We never had that not lock out of many books and there's not that many any great role models for young girls now. There is an instagram failures. Tashin things you can just take two one hour the day that one hour who may not ensue can mean the weld that go enough so far efforts eight does go long way and traffic the efforts thank you guys for the effort. I saw Joe Getty Show Gac we can. We can go though mentioned you big win for Gay Guy. Dion Juma on on Sunday of the big windy high for the eliminate the for the British Gaddi fist. There my life all of add some great tons we booth professionally a great tons and Kathy Brown on one I. She's my she's Britain's first British flyweight champion. Were meant to deal. And we've seen that guy go through with the injuries healthy if he lost two years of his career and I know that there's a lot of people that don't that wanted to avoid him and now they call avoid him because he's now mandatory challenger for the British cruiserweight title and he's relevant. We've had we've had a year off people going on podcast insane on well who's dealing for. WHO's the on for win? Lawsuit Vice is not the Camacho not the same. What he is not to my ex champion and he's now being Sam hide on some high its own turf on Joe Gallagher? Show which I have. 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Dillian Whyte & Fabio Wardley talk heavyweight rivals!

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

1:05:48 hr | Last month

Dillian Whyte & Fabio Wardley talk heavyweight rivals!

"Welcome. To The toaster telephone test. Let's go baby. Let's go. Hello and welcome to this week's vision of ring. So it's hard to tell you a boxing podcast exclusive to score sports. I'm Andy Scott and this week I'm joined by an army of guests from the top not in high order it's very joins Andy Clarke fabulous. And their forty natural self from Portugal. Good afternoon everyone. And Owen Owen Owen Owen Oh. Okay So, we thought that flight camp would give us a spectacular return. Thing is fair to say it did not disappoint. Including Fabio. Did you watch it? Yeah. Yeah. Watch what? Look very good. It was There's been a few shows last couple weeks if I come definitely stood out from the rest of them to be and it's the DOT. Look different production was good. It was good. I'm excited the before in a couple of weeks. Yeah. Bad. The countdowns well, and truly on Fabio we'll come to you briefly just just one thing I want to get off my chest which is. The only platform I get to give my side of the story. So Eddie heard. Maybe moral, which will. Something I didn't ever want to happen and if it did happen, it wouldn't be that reason so of. How to stay away from Switzerland. Then see what happen happened of of things so. I can tell you now it wasn't put them and to that we would never in so. Other WII seventy Because that had nothing stay with me but I think you can tell from his reaction that it was put on and then just undescribed huggies snowing it was. Fabulous is in the room, the land and. So you either Moments he just want. To call you up and maybe that's something that follow him around and not thank God nobody knows that it was me Just trust out the far. But. Let's straight see February because a brilliant win over salmon vally a couple of things your experience to the bubble, your experience of fighting on annual performance. How do you feel now you've had a chance to relax in what your back. Good to be famous overall. It was such a great experience just because of how unique it was event like the whole build up being in the bubble with the fires and stuff at everyone there near your own little life small books in wild in. That is just everyone that is related to the show who was about the show was something to do saying one way or another. So it's quite it's quite nice little just kind of in bubble to your know wild for for a bit, and then obviously when you finally get out when you get supplied Cam, you see the deputy spent school that is as it really does Put everything in make you realize how much of a big event it was awful. So yeah, it was a great nuts. You expect to talk about the bubble in flyweight. Did you expect to be so? The on age riled up especially. Yeah off detach gate a main. That was why I'm. Avenue I knew from like the this week about stuff that he had a bad temper sometimes, we can't lose your head I've never seen him that in impressive princes or just in our dot Com media. Of only ever really done in the fives where it was a half of the office shock to to see angry and stocks on gingerly law flock as as the guys everyone in the with. No I'm always down for a laugh our and having a giggled. Me In. The TASHAUN wasn't particularly they of wind him up just to be funny on the awareness tach on the one that I? It was funny. It just walked out a lot bad not foresaw is so good did after the fight you said that is probably the best performance your career now near on punch. Perfect. Did how you would did he box how you thought? He would it didn't a hassle to with no he didn't bolts athlete eat also he'd really especially off the fiery press conference that he'd it really trump. Could me really on put the welcome me and Kinda stampings authority in showing people and backup these leads and stuff he he was going to he was going to really put on me pop night cable very differently. Lucky. He said in the bill he was gonNA. He's GONNA folks books my face off in face off. He was on the receiving end. Dylan, you know Fabio very very well. And we know that you were watching out add what did you make of his performance? How happy for them from what in from a distance? Very. Happy I think. Four it was GONNA do. I sold the fabulous today's the day the fatness the. Guy's a good book. Say can be a good book. So listen good. Think you sit in the build-up if if among point if my mindset is ready if this, if it's all if it's not, it's not unready focuses there are you know what can do if among massive the the key ready keeps in is if if if just goes to show ended up just bravado, he's just trying to make it seem like ready. Make it seem like he's all as it does just. Books, and do you think under same in a if you do what you can do what I can depending free and it was just one word on the future then this is to serve you for free to discuss it between you two. There was a sort of a few names mentioned off camera rings saw Dave Allen was one that was starting out there and Nick Webb I o Fabio your response and Dylan is is there potential that those flags can be night? We went on the smoke when smoke what? Young. Experience so we get to. Be Wise of a sound like five day violent would probably ended a year maybe next. Nick Webb. I. Would like to fight Nick Amanda, cut in a couple of weeks ee theo forget injuries he unhealthy I'd like him to go frightening group is not sound five. Sounds good to me. This is what like deal knows me knows me on a on a close level the way we hit for anyone Same Way He is anyone can get it sank with me anyone candidate which fit radio year round. So I'm ready for come look. I think. Uproots. At the weekend I am a class above way a people kind of help me the show them both skills box with some big names up there. So it's just about nine put me in with them and then mean having more nights. debuted, up to show off their skills. Just, looking at the rest of the call, we'll bring him Barry Jones I I'm very who stood out for you. Jordan guilt. To be honest, I thought, it wasn't the best fighting the. Good fight I still displayed was flawless and I've said this already in a generation but April wants to be really clever and was the next Lama Chango East did the basics Just will be on the job will small movers the face just to keep the anger waltz on. The simple combinations dominated and and and it was a flawless displayed. I really liked what he did. Seem backing it Pelosi was. ruined. So quite Maitha in many as run could also be affected if you don't have a good job. And, the job goals was on point. It wasn't. Wasn't what the up but it was something that Jordan blew up in the build up. He was like people think of vulnerabilities not may well have vulnerabilities ninety two guard Aaron show. I. Don't you know I think that will came from. To defeat where I think a hustler heard, you describe it. With. Tash Jonas lucky if a loss sticks with you and I think maybe that's something that stuck with Jordan guilt way. Do you want to see him go next? Eastern a fantastic vision. Vision at the minute. Full of good domestic rivals I think know. Like to see with maybe not the winner the lose. Judge the Dickins and Ryan Walsh maybe 'cause the win go to contract Costs can win. That's going to want to move wrong but it is so many other names around him. So as I think what he did show. Is Back on track today who thinking he was going to go. The the end Jeb who knows 'cause Luck and everything else he's in a talented division domestically and we'll worldwide. If, show no that While tall contention. And I just think that the disciplined that he showed the not. Proven to be a championship class operator. And the clock and Smith. As in terms of drama, you could argue that he stole the show with that knockout Nathan Bennett should just say best wishes to, Nathan. Bennett be posted. Scam was going in to have surgery on a broken jewel. I don't know if there's any real surprise around Smith from those people that like self compensates don't even the WSB, but he looks like a really really well rounded professional ready. Yet there's no great surprise about that for me because I remember the first Mussoorie box was in the world series boxing finalists in Tashkent four years ago he was only justice saying yeah, and he was with US Neil. Toledo a hugely decorated massively experienced top Cuban fighter and he gave a good accountable selfie lost on the cards but I thought it was really clogged quite believe. Al Waleed performed. Only episodes that point up keeping a close eye on Bud. The move down from sixty four K. legs to sixty three with the reclassification of the Olympic. Whites didn't really sue him made it a bit too tight and he'd had some hand problems with why you have to wrap your hands are the gloves to use a atmosphere level. So you what was expected to hit the ground running is is personal nuts not US exactly. What has happened the Maytham it pretty well, actually whilst he was in that but he was always looking for that right handing. So little bit too far out. And then he got his fate a bit clunky money Land Day. It was yeah it was punch. We'll come to James Tennyson and obviously the main event slug lights just why I've got Fabio and Dylan here. How much you looking forward to get in down to the Holiday Inn in Brentwood I think. Kim Checks in on Friday into the bubble. Looking forward to it I'm looking for in. Obviously he's not ideal when you have to stay in the same places you your opponent we're gonNA be there for two weeks. So whatever it is, I will not ideal really because. Be around so many fighting for so long fronton into inherent is different. From. Being. Next someone you think you will in a couple in a couple of days you're gonNA use each as we inasmuch nature that the bit native really want to you know. It is what it is. Strange Times changelings. a few of US break five is is making a movement taken the risk of fighting this time I mean so it is what it is. Probably I. What are your bubble tips for? dillion Amin Mama Bates take a metal knife and folk because the wooden plastic one snapped in the middle of my PA Renault. And take an extension laid, but we'll practical things. Can you give him advice? Take growing fridge. Take microwaves as well. Because on meals. Within the hotel when he upsides eaten cold from the fridge law it just. Wasn't ideal. So yet practice brings some stuff to entertain you because I I I in lockdown is is close to prison is it's a strange feeling. It's a weird feeling Dylan I mean we we night at age is going to be watching on the night He said he might confront you off towards what what what did you think when you heard that? In get books if he doesn't. Does a D do you think that he wants you to win this? He thinks the game I I don't I. Don't play game. These guys they think is a game. Scream Michelle I'm getting Egypt's basically those books. Do you think they will win this fight or do you think he wants? To be adult no, another really care what he thinks what he believes. You know. I don't know you know I. Don't know it's hard to say you know. Is is is one thing one day the next day six something Kelsen is no consistency with Aj. Does these no consistency when he says they've finishing. thoughts of. Crap. Is. The ideal scenario few that you beat perfect kin and then get to Tyson fury I bay Tyson fury and and and Scott those plans of the Nigeria fury find any ought to beat making and we can five, one, zero, five we can fight. Isn't ideally is only free full big fights are definitely this one. You know not just one allowed us on them in the biggest dues on Justin Fury. So this can fight. Gesture fury weather. In about an amazing career confront beat him then. Amazing career. And that's all I WANNA do. One of the things are always bad about when I interview is always like what about this? Is About this guy? Is there anything that you? Just you know a statement that you want to say on on the whole scenario when the whole situation regarding your way it's over a thousand days now. What can you say look? US On effectively Piranha Time America and that's that's what I wanted to. Lose a draw don't can quite running marrow winning for him for him for him a tally. It's all good been attempting to smell would be in this opened up. I've been fights fighting the best ron nothing nothing can visit us. When it begins Simone went up against I mean. That thanks. Wouldn't anything. On the best thing we'll see the best is in. The best guy should fight a best I? Don't know why messing around and take a long when an unusual of people waiting that thousand days it mandatory is all nonsense. Nonsense. Deeply deeply that you all the best of the bunch and you just need opportunity show it. Of course some old. Medina is keep coming back from career. That said, you know what? Whenever. Conscious, ask you about the new South. Import School mean from the fights hose that you've been posting of the the run in the roadwork you look very, very trim but who got a change in the corner there with? Multi out. Abby Miller. Stayed in. You just tell us a little bit about you know is what it is you know obviously is a strange time. A lot of strings many people was being strange people I don't people are scared. A lot of people don't WanNa take chances unto a champion, a champion bill to need discipline. On Sunday is it people can provide the. Simplest obviously under the sun is Shining Mock wanted to be omitted abroad family done here. Number brought his kids done and he still left. So it is what it is. You know where I am is under the safest place in the early. This this'll much. Ease, my coach, he was worried about it means weapons primarily I fly fly from this kid up paid for them. Play Prima House everything properly. He just couldn't get. You will just want it to be home to see. So I said to him. No worries my friend. Go do what you gotta do. I gotTa do this the big fight. I. Don't WanNA fight was on five weeks from the fight he said Oh. I'm ready to goes at will we don't take five weeks chain for Rota fight? Takes. A long time I, if someone clogged commitment and you need fortunately that the move on but. Critic Jewish did a great job. We had great five gifts to give. The memories unreal. We had some great down some great up. Give you know NAM isn't guided to do nothing obviously we had an amicable split all of that and it was what it was. Within its a shame that author that you win on Cameron said he's saying some things that doesn't make sense I mean affects affects I've been here for five months. Where have you been full five months? Simplest okayed trinity don't be No sites. On Santa Monica. Fair enough way one of the things about being out and Putin being. So in training camp sedation is you know any danger bumping into any other heavyweights? H I. in theory bumped into each other what did you make of that insperity? My question is if it was you and you still one of those down the street, would you be looking for a friendly chat? Look so stage that looks okay. Latest bump them through to the right time in the right place I know. A casual speaking social media it went to do this teach at undo the CJ signal stage. So stage it looks so stage. Sloppy housing lucrative three jokers. jokers listening see someone talking smack about me said they WANNA do going to do this and did it then when I see, you have the same energy. Going to be standing outside windows then decide will. Seeking you know on them. We go. Before we let you. Just back to. We know that you could you. I'm not putting words in your mouth, but you've told us into round. Sound you like takeaways and stuff like that. Does this mean now it's one day one day more on a wanted man straight back into training camp. The pay per view. Yeah of course it's just looking off this giving us those little does little trees lend your pleasures and then straight back to work, you need more arrests, not not not any borek some good good on fresh radio. Perfect I thought you. It'd be lights stolen. Don't want to get back into Brentwood bubble and dylan just lost throwing you cenex branded everywhere. Maximum violences is the performance it you wanNA produce against Alexander. Do you WanNa? Do Want WanNa send a statement I guess you know it's been a long time coming like you say it's been strange time who installed of box, installed the heavyweight action and do you WanNa put on a? You know a maximum violence talk performance you know me during the you know somebody gets me in trouble. You know. But I I just try to bring it. Manas jammed bring the heat sometimes. SAY AGAINST JEB coming run into punches. Oh, everyone ida send bring the but what the hell you know like I. Leaving Out de when I go to fight. Go to full. Don't bring young dude disingenuous. I. Just WanNA fight us on a fire I don't WanNa go to Unimportant officials are candidates perfomance I can give it. Much can learn as much as I can cause these guys fighting the good fight it's very as. He same just from this very brief into seeming a great place in Saudi It was obvious that you weren't in a great place that's come through so much right now you had on hall. Do you think that you're in a much much a place you gotta wait and see wait and see dissuade Sima in Saudi so. Good. That must be so. Laptop one of those lenses. A listen to the two of you. Thank you so much for coming on. Didn't look yourself Portugal and a safe journey when you come over and Fabio. Donate Jimmy cates we'll be seeing you soon. Thank you. Day let's season changes. Greg two boys on not talking about baron and Jillian and Fabio. That's interesting. Fabio. Be Back in the Brentwood holiday in Sudanese. Let's just go back to the weekend. Another Barry had your say on on James Tennyson. Will come back to you but andy I James Tennyson. Be One of the heavy hits on the domestic Samart one of the genuine punches. Yes. I'll take nuts at the minute people finding it difficult to tech. What he's got because he's been in with could find disaster defies Craig, Evanson Gavin Guede on ultimately they. To it and ofo winded well, not fight tencent three two rounds at the top of the stoppage until up my slate absorbed came back. Some good clean. It was very much in it but at the site talk you could. Him Lasting and covered Craig, Evans, dot fight ends it was assigned Connor Story Craig made it deeper into the fight. So Tennyson is it's a very good fight. It's watch he's a very likable fighter in. A likable character if you will because it doesn't really say too much really does ladies boxing do you the toll king? Unable fancy with anybody at hood was mentioning some names you mentioned Tara which will be good fight. Obviously, we saw him against Lewis Richardson. Defecting not what he's about imagine whole. Hey, the norris as well. The no risk somehow seems to have transitioned into not exactly a gatekeeper, but in some people's eyes that seems to be A. Will. Try US in full Albania. The name that you want your flights. It's a fine maybe yeah I. Really get that I know he's been a little bit erotic during his career read a doctor what he's been doing the last eighteen months to as he is amount of fights shall we say? Who? But he's still very, very good the the mandatory Ford with the British ously Walsh James Tennyson Lynn Walsh would be really really good for. The Great Barrier You through joke. In who I think may have gone down to you super federal certainly, that was the plan whether or not he comes copy would be a good fire just a quick word on on your fellow Welshman getting away and it's a shame for him because he's come up against two very good fighters for British. Title flights. No, he desperately wanted to take the belt humphries boy and a not. Quite sad I really do think he can hold his head high in both of those performances. Nobody wants to lose when you lose it's it's fitted ever. You Take Solace in your performance at times especially sit on when you look back at your career and he can't complain. Can. Pay. Feel sorry for that. He almost you can't pay the efforts and commitment he put in each any shots he tried to make it comfortable as possible Just, ten someone's Betty cliven Tyson didn't try matching that. That was what was clubs tennis much go gwen just took entites was happening. Let him throw 'cause he did feel a pressure the And pick the shelves lovely and even took awhile and kept coming on and kept trying to work as said, you could save chipping away at the end was a toss office but yet it could hold his head high in think the performance about to gate. So when the mess quality attended said. champion right now. So you might get here's another I. Think you can get another decent win again, Tennyson shorting move on in it maybe he will get a about waste. In many ways you might. Yeah. Yeah. I mean we could pick up a little bit more, but I do want to give us enough talk about the main event. Up Way out which we thought it would be good on just not sure. We thought it would be as good as it turned out to be honest. Probably one that we can't be accused of overselling it just so entertaining. So so good. And he had come across the TV at Heim. Brilliant brilliant it. I would be looking this for weeks because I really did feel that it was a genuine fifty, fifty five. Way, we talk about fifty, fifty five. We know that in reality quite often something that is seventeen thirty ovalles redoubts way people will try and push more towards the fifty fifty. That's just that's just what you do. That starts just this detainment business you you sell things as best you can but. Thousand. Genuine fifty fifty five I thought because cheesman had how to rough Raphael last year Eggington have fate against Smith but came back ready while I'm off the two of them. It's One of the biggest titles eggington would been in data thought didn't really say why cheesman was was made such such favorite because when you compare the two of in stock up to me an update from beginning to end strangely enough of the second round early though that is was ready chaos I had a role and. I was winning that round and then chase until they grounded that just kind of swung in ten rounds after that the coolest. But when I called it Still in a fight like that, just little things that make such big. Difference. And Yeah, it was just a just a great fun to watch in the fight around was was absolutely tremendous. I'd love to say again. With the crowd. Do Echo that Berry certain. A hall joking when I said it on the broadcast like eighty slim pickings for flights of the year because we've lost so much the but that that I mean that has to be even in even in a full calendar, you'd you'd be hard pushed to find a Skillful but you know you've got entertainment as. Well, that was the keeping more exciting. If they was three, thousand, five, thousand, ten, thousand, whatever many people in. Society thing. It did like it really did like. My biggest thing, my biggest worry and concern for this. Pandemic and the Hind closed those shows is that only be on paper competitive. So you can do you make matches out of really compare them going to be shifting Chaffetz pat matches and not journeyman against against prospects all the time limit if you. Loud. Now I. Don't think that so good. You forgot it was wasn't the crowds not. You can ask and I think that that risk what it was it was close though they. Take a before to be fair I achieve winning by two rooms that I feel. Exit might have enough confidence achieves may be one for sure what he was doing this. Boxes Quality can get out. But didn't think he had a plan too much and I thought I might be able to capitalize on us at the is from ahead of. And I don't care. Me Who wins or loses I'm I'm I'm watching its own gave you the pain public. Subscription scarves boats and I sat down on the Sofa Limited. What you don't want to school you watch and enjoy it and take it in. Amazon said that last one was was put out wrong in any in any of the last six years and ended. Up Just absolutely fantastic and put in a hard fought fight like that. Leap of already took up both especially. Eggs in the back cheesman boxing at the dig out and he hurt. To go three minutes nonstop at eight AIDS. I'll I couldn't do it until I couldn't now. Can do it back there when I was I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Yeah a tip my hat to both guys and Paper there's a loser but I. Don't think on either CB's and reputations either one of. Identity. Every close for generates debate and sometimes control cathy at particularly when the fights ways one way or the other or bumped into John. Peg on Saturday night in the call park off the flight. Meudon things to get these chest tickly towards the scoring common tree and the coverage which he would favorite cheesman. So on Monday night, we decided to get John on a zoom coal with these mates macklin to ask these grievances. If you haven't been Matt probably wouldn't have even said too much of Addie can talk to matlock. You know. There's overcoming servicing call sign. Well. Enough. You know. We've bite. So many different things. and. You know it's one of those things it's. afterwards, that's more the mold in the country and stuff that's going to last spoke about it as well. But everything settled on. Mickey Owen will. This is more reason. The first thing I said every time you sign. Welcome to Ted's it was a fantastic could've done only the why and he went he's widely stolen and any local area. So I didn't want any negative would say to might Ted thing that was towing stick anything go him 'cause he was a gripe foliage what was really blazing Sam The only is literally dying. I haven't seen before even the African of him. It was going to be in the gym await lights advancing I'll be chatting to. I think casinos he's met adjustments and and bucks really. Well. And he's and he's lucky says, he says, I'll just don't get the robot any talk on another Ted compliant to by Com y Lloyd saw the fixture woman's fail come on unlucky. Or? Some never compliance and they actually says amazing process would stop moaning and you know he's foresee says Clovis failed. Every for a wing or whenever we ran Buccino says there's never been a close. predominantly Particularly happy wave on the in since you watched it back. What was a problem for me which isn't usually a problem because he's opinions and mckinney that if Matt wants the size of the Batman, all sight back in it's an opinion I on if he's been overcoming tights roof died cold but I'm okay. With that no, it's we could hear loud and clear and we could live and clear the consensus was treason sweeping the first or grants. Now, do you agree with that attaches? Okay. What usually watch out who is okay but what was worrying May? was. Plus Three of watching a really close fall, it's and is not much happening. One of us he's very vocal. We'll free of trust each of his opinions. Near the to going to be calling. Probably Rolling attached today and the judges sort of seen there is no sign there's no crowd. The same cabbies very much because it's I saw and obviously coming sites is a trained to declare ever wants it and and. I don't think gays losing all the ran's within the judges to school cuts quite obviously I sweating. And then when you look at twitter and I'm not talking about sums, Mites and someone from scholars causing I'm talking about guys like call Greaves. Joe Gallagher. Pizza few right. Lists. As Steve Woods Pay Stanley old Scien- what's going on these same really. And I'm not. I'm not saying is boiler I. I'm saying when you read back and you think to yourself, well won't progress an unorganised I've watched the and all them anyone son did not lose that I. Ryan barely hates check around Jefford Ranjha full frank close reframe probably what he didn't lose the I. I don't know why don't we sign these? He's gotten influential well-known voice and they're hearing cheesman. He's walking these faults in a close for human nature? And member people signed. This is one Ryan Old. Abe, if only influence. He's one rain excited friends which all out. Gladly sit down and go slow motion on many one. Eight Nights Lloyd managed. To Adrift. Nee, you know in the two of judges. To his the last rain if some of the school three nothing's. A. Drool. That side Faubion ogies having 'cause he was full points Stein woman ran straight wants in. So some of the brain up times in the last rain, it would collect to the drool which tells me to with the judge as. To the Giorgis will sweep the nearly Rienzi why. Did you want to come back On of see some of the points that John. Made. Cassettes. Jumped yesterday a call as say obscure. Law Rambo round done of the benefit owing saw looking back or can't sit on the outside and give Wasco. Ask though not most people most people don't see. They're scoring around ramble round on the ten point must system they just have a feeling of who they think's winning the who they I think won the fighting. Of course 'cause he's pretty strong. You could think, Oh, I think enough that. But yeah he threw away the phone from me in the first few rounds you know. That's how a same answer a call for you know Janis by we're with the talk. Got Me old way back through the m twenty five, their bullets say we had open data an could sell. Because a lot in. The way. Peaked. Some making sense a wing you know who's GonNa win the fight at the resume authority for two harps I rams are cheesman. First Round may be about that wrong. I remember thinking at the end of the first ten. Dunlop giving sense to try and look for winner at. The defense achievement in the first round. Swipe ease. Wipe. Remember Looking After already sets guy mcabe. There and he gave Atkinson, on his he's caught. So we got that one wrong anyway. The next second randy got her of the took him a few rensselaer co after that something you definitely want straight two, three, four, five may have I one wrong but I think it was another Ryan with seven I on on one of those was again I was thinking ten sane and a wet. Because it's stormy, the first Friday was going to get ten assorted, but this one is going to send say I'll saw remaking. And over the not according to my the deficit with every right after that. So you know what I mean I think once if they want fourteen however I got there. I, think it was probably about Roy school to be fast. Sam was winning the second court well until he got wobbled. You know if you look at the Ryan properly yet. What will Johnson we lost the round. Yearbook with. Mass the thing is. If you win in around and you get dropped and it's a flashing up Dan, how you actually meant to school without rain you'll be snuck finding about her and then he got he. Joe Dan all on one science enough. Nine heads more than being hurts so. If John Alas the second round he got hurt by late then he dropped his hands boom that bravados Digos under the Hawaii. And got loads acclaimed shots. He lost the second round cleanly yet and he. He's Apart, from the common trait nobody. Eddie cliff brains and that's where point different paints and that's where we could all hear you. I was. Always. Always think he'll eat kinloss the second thought we lost the third fourth big first round maybe about that wrong looks like it's very close but another very, very close friend light running the fight which could have gone. I didn't want you SAM. So yeah I don't I. Don't think he was I don't think want fifteen one fourteen was about card. Now now now nothing Carl just on the bachelor in the early stuff in it was all very pro cheesman but Yeah. But then the second half is very proactive because that's what I was saying it was sleeping. We saw these defenses were improvement. JAP. And he was hurting cheesman second half belong to sound. And you must read Sonos. And I'm not talking about on a mistake unfold keenum least the nine. John was without being in the second hostels. Atkinson. I don't know because I thought you know most people psalms wanting the second off what are you GonNa think he's there's not twenty bucks people going Matt's getting these wrong. Not. Matt sorry not you Matt. Countries being. Boyer. States. Washington most people's agreement. What I'm saying is there's a lot of nine. And you can check them out and then not being nasty that just saying this doesn't seem very fair on San that's what they were saying in the second off Matt, it's twenty people saying Matt's border to Ted I'll be fair enough perhaps map was swinging by wise with enough people going yeah. Second off it looks. Conscious, keep the phone where to join in. It's somewhat unrelated tool of this in the car park before we left. Demand if say say what you said. You said you know what? That's her in. So bad I think he might Jackie in honestly think he might pack it in. Question will be now the dust is settled. Tony. Little Bit, and maybe Sam sounds watched it back orphee seeing some certainly the outpouring of. Goodwill to both men has to be said. Will. He himself down and come again at only age twenty six? What was arguably the debate the best domestic that we've had in in years in five he could one. I honestly don't know honesty mice. A is never been more before eight when the Africa and the AD is problems in the African jumps on him. Around the monument let's get back to work and he just said Sommese you know what? He said he finally big money for much of the says the case. And I've never known him that. And you know. He just he doesn't same John, which will. Always, there won't decisions that don't deserve I'm over Matt Sigh of the decision, Sam's never say drop on the low forties one he's one pretty clearly I'm not saying it should have looked for you know Eddie signed we'll. Take. A look last on I think the forget that sounds bad look as well. You know sounds bad looks and scored all. These. Because because he had by look on is you could send out mode and he's fades and go matt. Yes. So some strong points made a from John and I think really. Sounds a bit of like panel says on the back but really I think the reason we go mornings because if someone has a huge problem which which Donald quite obviously didn't look tweet about it about squad coverage let's just try and get him on and maybe we can learn something because if there is a genuine thing that too close to we call it, you know opened our eyes to it. What John was saying really was the acquaint venue. The judges can hear our country might be tempted to follow all narrative. Somewhat question really and probably go to Barry I with the experts is not a disrespectful to a very experienced set of British judges valid point or is it a combination of the two? Thing combination the two I think I remember why Welsh probably mentioning on maybe respectfully. Disagree with much go fight. But she was and I thought he lost by point clothes but the judge one just has it the things me and he said, why didn't I said that's because he this outright in French you. I checked and he was who sat knicks or something and he was me John Roland is the time of John Wheel booming voice plus we can hear really and helped me the point. It kind of Linford don't snow this. Jesuit. PEEVES. E poverty cancel it might just be cordial and emphasizing things that. Big a deal. Else thinks. We do and if he respects are Indian and he might go actually I said especially a close loans, it could be swayed do understand that. Not if not edgy judge. But I also think in this. John Jakes. Fantastic. I is knowledgeable. Knows every facet of the game, you can't be more biased in. THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH PFIZER Pfizer Pfizer, DAD's fight the fight magic the atmore and they want if is away. So that opinion is time and also once people say I went up to social media escape over for me. So can be there's a great tool. A people just follow be friends and social likes people want to be popular the people. So I was told a long time ago announced to media that don't take any notice of the praise. Criticism with it. So could you get people who love to hate you? So people just get dead that bias today. So they're just GonNa, tell you what you want to hear or sleep I. Think Economy Take that as an adult on social media they also run. Compensated biased because people may be static with an intention of looking for you to make a mistake. Like your style at work and they're gonNA Pepsi Glass wrong there together. The you make the troll? No no no he didn't say he didn't do that. At all you say to a president in the mail, say he doesn't box casino can you mention that? Say Not Say it was off. So. Some of the the agresource Jones making. Don't really sit down with me. It looks like you always gotta get Nike I've actually I think Matt Scott. Pre Coats, and yet I think you'd be saying in Jesus by us, to win fight. anyalysts. Yet have a bias, but you can accidentally woman too much. Did you say? That that's one of the dangers were and on Saturday i. think that was possibly. What happened which caused? Jones have a problem because. If you start talking about one five. So you just a couple of little stories thought that can be all it is maybe it's quite a quite a round and you're going to see a until you start doing that, and then he starts to box one. And then you talking about that because that's happened. So all of a sudden you've really young he talked about one of them. then. You can't just dive back in and start talking about Eggington to try and level it up because if he's not winning rounds, you can talk about we'll a might need to try and do that saying necessarily loss all of those early rounds but was comfortably ahead by halfway. Adult can definitely I can definitely happen. But what are you saying when it comes to an objective view fights his US trainers, parents, and rightous fights is fans. Anybody attached to the. They might want to think that objective but not it's as simple as that then not and I will always listen to what they say. But to be honest with you very unlikely to how the effect how I go about things going forward because I know how I do it on our think about our kind of examination. So I understand. Jones. Jones are actually completely because he felt the that Psalm one. But if you go back to last year our member Ted in few his supporters citing the face to face at sky because. The Drawer Against Code Y. felt he will not fight a Pepsi won the fight against Fitzgerald Anita. Get the decision ousting the call against Fitzgerald Ma. Gave Israel. Of Everyone. Cheesman for the is against him. Of Fitzgerald, for Bay biased against him time actually. Just. That's just how it is. A. Big. Thing. For Tribuna, you have to be looking out for all aspects of anything that might affect your chances live the same time when the fight is on, you've got to be booking out having what people say Poetry Shaw. Well. One thing I think if you're listening to this, you probably think the. Best to cover our tracks so to speak, but it's just it's just an interesting point because it is a game of opinions and. Would sky. Sports Boxing Gal having an agenda that's protect cheesman and anti Sandiganbayan or the other way round just you know we just won't just won't good flights and entertainment and really think. If you think we round pick a winner beforehand and we'll say what would be best in the business. Come that's the. Can anybody suggested not own to wait to come and in other intriguing lineup anti-fouling without him. Harp off the people that don't know Andy. Can you just? Try and some the Harper Story OPPA succinct years you can. Gladly yesterday. So in the last three, as an unbelievable amount has happened to other materials of his career. So we cover this every talk to fight against Ryan Kelly on facebook may two thousand seventeen. He was a good dog. A refi fight gave a memorable fight interview to you on the etching everybody in British to basically and how he was going to come after them for fights that very night he went home. Go. To facebook after finding out who the champion. Hunted down. Makubela champions manager, which was get a fight with him. That was set for straight couple of weeks before he was due to God which. Can should he went to Australia anyway on himself he's trying to think with him. He thought it was a bottle a day managed to get five for the CANTATA. Gates was Rafeh took it took suboxone twelve rounds and looks comfortably employed in the midst of there wasn't the best idea at a half came back wanting this title than just as he was offered a voluntary for the British against. Ted. cheesman early last summer the Cold War, ended up taking you felt a brain scan. He retired he was trying to be a referee was happy enough with that reexamined discounts. Golden decision overturns hassle the life out of Eddie hearn gutless fought with the LA. The gauge during lockdown as well so Just. Stuff that's happened to buy three is is extraordinary. I've never spoken to a faulty believes in himself. Mole denied him halt with us a spike you believe themselves as much but he Looks rigging trusting bottoms if you look for them. You would think you follow any look to footage of you was sick. I'll get a big this guy this buffet on I'm going to knock him out because he doesn't local when you ought to fight, but he's GonNa believable engine. House the Chin. It's got to be careful galleries got to be careful because if he doesn't have exactly the right substitute, he's. Basically, where you think you could probably walk through a knock him out and you will try and do that Wal still trying to do. And if you Doug Mommy's to do it big. But yeah, as he's, he's he's a hell of a character loss ratio. Very well, I think that's perfectly. Yeah, like you said, he would NC Fallas from get a chance to. Examine Fowler and Shay mcguigan relationship further because it's another chance to see what they might have worked on I didn't regret chunks lost time out crystal Smith faces unbeaten codifies Nathalie vary from social media or see that Nathan was enzymatic Granola could that be a surprising thing or is Chris Smith to rounded fee Massive famous. Show boxer the high level he's the guy who's. Cruelty career at all these coming from Teddy would say should be cruelly probably from the on the beginning, but it's not more than the pockets of abandoned Smith I think he makes a few mistakes. APP relies on voting will be busy. Committed takes good shots. And Not as the biggest punch MP. Has Eagles right time really five after the next to go. Acceleration speed so If you catch this myth by the way Smith. These really wide open to a right-hander is as his biggest flow so it will give folding opportunity. You tend to think that. Just, the level last Smith is box activism. Smith if he can just go there from the center of the ring and take unified that Saudi, will catch up might get caught himself so. Much as I love 'cause he's a category in the same area. The Caliph is on from I'd like to see him winter that alone I tend to. Might, get the stoppage I think it'd be late I think only will be like Gavin grimm will be evenly illusion go repent glory. But perhaps not winning and on the on the call keep fiascos and they've called woes protege Hopi processing pictures of him checking in the hotel. He's at some run box now in. Saudi Arabia Open Air now boxing in Essex Opener But of course, a lot of the talk is going to be around the top of the Bill Harper v Jonas the first, all British contest for major women's world title. Now, Terry and the Tasha's will never gonNA start a war of words as it turns out they trainers have done it for them surprise surprise, Joe, Gallagher, Steffi, ball, and never show every word or to enjoy -joy Nelson for a lively debate this week. I'll. Get straight down, to Nitty Gritty Joe a few numerous have been flying I pick a mate. All. About Tummy sparring. Tell us a room with celery story you could send you know joining. The big fights is room. This spied that one got dropped on. It was in the Gymnasium WanNa set that added from good souls It'd be the downpour over whatever doubt stuff is he playing Kangoo Joe's like you say he's been right block one of the best in the business and I think is is playing games. LISTEN IS ADAMANTLY Said Same. The, the things I've it I've I've got one of my spotting Jack Cattrall and then he's message in Waco by this week. I've got the message on my phone that Shantelle saying that the nets Joel. Together. For four hours. Then she crumbles and I've got Jason Kooning over in London spot in the Collins and there's a young amateur spotting Shannon Court and she say that she can't believe Natasha's boxing will tell she was really slow. At the dog. Precious Terry's young champion. She's twenty three. She's listens Mike. Lynch is the second. Commend he saw making weights you've got to find to come come Jonas make the way yes. Can she find eight? She shown she can't so far struggled the last time she made wait. So in all honesty, where do you think these rumors started Steph? Jobs. So you tell me you're trying to time you. Know because that's why I never attained it when the lead set in the gym 'cause I, always I want be built type of thing. It's not coming from, yet is whether it was this come or come who's studied Jo- setting. Of. The Jim of said it. So I'm not gonNA come out and say it so. Issues. Jones you one. Terminating to back because even though. Justified these rooms you mentioned them. If you put out there is it is the plan to get them to buy to get into react to get into at least think about what you're saying. If. I'm asking a question. I'll answer it how they take your holiday deal of it is to them all we're concentrating on August some rumors about Natasha like after the day of it's just we're concentrating on August. The seventh I bell not sold that matches both goes of doing very well to get to where the careers and a great success story that he's doing a good job with Sarah is doing a bad job during the social media at the moment is well Soviet is looking after social media accounts is doing, I'll go train a good manager. Those I am running a social media that many Joel knows. I can put me on until it's not that I'm getting and. Teddy's very special talent and as one of them fights that I think is testing out goodies Terry. Jones, late knockout I've just seen touches Powell's goal of the third opening the realize how in touch hit some that once you hit superbeing Lila than I I find Jonas. Down the street multiple around nine round San Joel. It have Steph you've claimed you'll be two nil up against you. She'd be trying to want him up. Yeah at least Joe's greater in your we. Don't set Alpha Sleet. One Skies Bolts me yesterday you know and I'm like. Well, tell him. He's going to be chewing basically Ravi Bhalla and I'll tell you off He likes seasonal right? Doubtful. So I. Think we are a little bit to blame here with the fact that this started off as getting Joanne Steffi poke HR. Now it's like a full blown twitter meltdown involving the Smith brothers and the to James and everything else. So we might have to take a little bit of the blame for that. But what it has done is it's really sort of developed this narrative of the two camps Steffi very, very confident in Terry haw. Joe. Gallagher. I loved your analogy about Joe got the Alex Ferguson in this of scenario, no one will access, which is a millwall say Imbaba say that to you as a Cardi support because don't really want any trouble I went on facebook saying you getting hammered in the comments section making analogy by United Fans Not Terry. Harper fans just did you want to expand on that a little bit squire analogy like Joe was created this Other NOLA force field around these where he puts his neck out there, he takes the flat keys creates a chip on their shoulder. Yeah it does because you're you can see straight wait A. jobst. Say I'm not happy about this visit. Say I'm not happy about this. All you gotta be wed that don't forget what snow Do the actual fight each training in the fight. It's just worry about the job I don't know how he changed his fighters. Successful do but he'll evil public- make a a comments. Things depression on on the outside influences I think the smart and also I think he brings I, think he believes this. Is still able wants to salute sippy looms. Excluded at the same sort of thing. But it still still to that, you want to prove a point and then an abundance you as a team or fight that it makes you really been to the strongest. Ally Jonas has goes in. Really really seeded also controlled. If she can have a bit of an effect on if there's a way you know she's an underdog and it's all for her to prove I think she has to take the playoffs out to the hands of Teddy half more than anything. I think. It's good foam Julius Stick it'll Joe Gallagher fermented. Honest. Not a sticks and it, and then it will see like because of that but he just. Because he's in there for these fighters you want and itself you want to be successful. So it's a focus whoops of. Mostly most design success rate, Yod, talent. She's thirty six. What's the sticks with eight Without loss was a long time ago in pack the loss and it wasn't as she didn't unravel we all made out. She did we'll in your mind will she unraveled in the monster? She's offset shaped. Russell. The happen. And then. You take some like APPA long toll an accurate and you might be infra had. The goes back to what you said about Juliana other than it was a little later the point. Of a sudden, you carry reputation as being vulnerable, which probably is vulnerability that actually isn't there. She clips on that particular night didn't recover and Joe described as a speed bump nothing more. We're GONNA find out just from a personal point of view. Absolutely a massive joy gallagher fan. Absolutely. But around flight week, he doesn't like to be. Hutton monitored by many for interviews and we always have running battles and foot. We always have running battles but I respect him. His job and in time he respects me on their mind, but we always away clash but I'd like to think that he's into this. We can call says books in friends but yeah, we often have a clash I've noticed since. Joan Pagan. Michaeli. It all. The same you want to be and in can't be maybe. The since Barry evidence that went viral big time may adjust watch mustache being I. that's the thing I just need to watch who wants to consume when I'm so. Andy, you covered the Terry Harper story from the Star a week. You'll behind this because just because she's been a breakthrough star in so British women's boxing or Ashida genuine real. Tight thinks he's being over heights because you just look at actual achievement and it's impressive occurs false I how this number will not division worldwide and Terry Hall took down and she was a low writing basically bumpkin on a good good Pfizer and bates with something to spat earlier in the year and. Will Not Baixas you have to give her the credit that she g for that does not mean that she's unbeatable. Of course no does not mean the judge is called. Beta. But she will go to the his favorite H differences something the. said, it may be not as difficult now as it would have been a couple of decades ago but a well prepared twenty, three year old will be investigated wealth propensity six year old bus just I'll Ajay, let's just how the will. Join US has experience not that many miles on the clock in her career. She's got a good rest and she's got a lot to drool from. So that could narrow the gap between the in not regard this. Well, we'll look out with their last questions about is the way is Vivian Open? And, although Joe, Gallagher would right against that and under support is what happened. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll happen again. Could be a defensive rather than not being able to take pumps on it. They resist it happened ends when something like that because people are going to pick it up but that chance now let go by chance to to answer all the critics online always about things is a funded mostly to tightening I don't think with Steffi. Steffi. Is quantity sensitive guy he's kind of admitted to in the past doesn't really Show, he was really expecting it to reflect his adult take the world's adults. He thought he was going to go down this rugs. Southern has identified himself. Down Manali, scrappy Joe Gallagher I did I think I think you might not saying you're wrong but my experiences Steffi Ball I did when I was at Maloney's he coach what else on our show just very quick story and it was. Don't cost a dime and white. Coats came you know multi handed there was a lot of people around him. Not. Very nice atmosphere was tiny tiny little ball and. Syfy who won the been and cut and then they went the had not took a photo actually that facebook is to go traction afterwards he's a good fighter do have to say it wasn't quite focused dwell and Steffi stood in front of him and he just looked he's biceps and he went seen it before my seen it all before, and then one part of him that was intimidated of. Out so the stories is better than. A. But I don't think he's as sensitive as we will think. You might want to play poker with this. I think it's different when you were trying. A make. Shift towards Terry very much. So yeah. Eight suggests that he would. He would be intimidated absolutely not but I just think that. He will bite wait when it comes to her he will buy an image people do buy when Gallagher casts out the line is search your way did it must be really hard Nazi. Territory and not get knocked out in sparring is the one wasn't at this time round so I have to say advocate, the actual fight wanted to trainers can casey who ultimately who cares. Natasha Jonas go much much is as an amateur. Professional happen at the more experienced a slightly higher level for me to the oldest experience that that we'd these say is, isn't Jonas we favor. Is I really don't think it is I think how box just last night local ten times high level and Jonas box. As as professional we should wear the company calls and even some of the other being maybe a high level I know she she beat together beat would be Jonas. She S I think she's had Ganesha only basset experience from the game so. Everything is in favor I think might be kids join us because was against. So she can go out while we know expectations that she had in the past miss GDP, whatever the name of which Bro that's a big the caddy. That's gone. She's just this older lady. WHO'S GONNA be father to these young Lee will champion. It was to stop she can go then I'll just express yourself with no pressure of having to win. Some are perfectly. One thing with pandemic a lot of people will of women sport has been left behind with project restart because it's not been as easy boxing certainly, i. think it's been a great platform and like we said the first old British women's will fly just amazing nothing. It's dry rocky top of the bill and we were really looking forward to it. So this fondue pot leads, we've not got lung five minutes The totes. Prediction League is if we didn't have enough headaches, we fancied quiet the need to come up with a new game. was. It wasn't lost on me when it was suggested by great producer at down Royal So these are the rose have been put out there. One point for correct result I who wins three points for the correct manner of Victory Points Stompie Joel a full points the crazy. Shimon. who correctly tips role? Lets you said, we don't want to be friends with these guys. Let's risk the wrath of Joe and Steffi. You'll prediction and method of victory Terry Hall up versus Natasha Jonas. Jill everything points and I was thinking I think happened what gather stoppage threat I know I have to predict it and it has to stand this as thing I'm GonNa say Terry. Half. Points and. wjr. Okay, and A. Dot Dot dot I would go with as well but to be different I, will I will say fishing. A case ihop appoints Barry Jones hop stoppage Andy Clarke. So you'll be the first on the league table. So we'll put a twitter poll this Thursday you can predict the for yourselves and you can give it to pundits. WHY THINK THEY'RE WRONG And will be taking the invite from the fans, and that will be their score on the prediction league. So it's per pundits against fans which rather the neatly brings us the end of this week show. So re right tunes, Goodall Bides, we thick skin allegedly my thanks to Dylan Fabio Barry an Andy emerged of you guys for listening and a hope the two of you enjoy fought can't wait to we both watching. Maybe we'll see see what else is home. Barry. See, what else is on my wife recorded the weekend. In St. Watching it from nine, thousand, nine, hundred, six, I were married work for scars sports I was like He. Said Yeah I've done it. The on. It's like watching it in a snowstorm. A couldn't believe as everyone look great. The fireworks everything couldn't tell you. It was great day. But from what I've seen since just an absolute dissolves shows listen to this cost danger finding this out A. Divorce next week. Okay. Well. See you soon.

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"I'm Tony Value on your listening to the toll to toe podcast. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of ring. So I talked to a boxing podcast exclusive to Sky Sports I'm Andy Scott I'm joined by Barry Jones and Gary Logan Goes I. We lost was certainly a dramatic one down in Brentwood is one place to start and with one man to start with Dylan. White also joins us on the pocus Barry and Gary guys be patient will come to you. Soon, a lot of people go into hiding after defeat, but not you just one of those heavyweight nights where one punch from a big man changes everything. Good than second, innocent one on funds, insofar the support and stuff we've been amazing. Why would grains I didn't is the fighting. That was Boston was winning the fight. You know we know dangerous in the perfect can was a lotta guys. They wanted to voluntarily allow guys only four in where he was Monday's wildly unify. Way through his Mendocino, I wanNA fight these guys in Boston to fight probably a lobster consideration for minute. I'm made a minor mistake. He was done in a qods any managed to pull out. A punch probably and a hundred million times in training and and it landed landed on the button. Got Stopped. So you know you know I'm credit tape obviously, I'll put in a good punch especially pressure. It was undone the punches, the US connected because I'm quite heavy handed in showman could see Democrats, you leave wounded jebusites. Problems. Like is back to you what's GonNa Freedom on the end of the fourth round you've had him down twice second time heavier than the first. He's going back to the Corner Wisconsin for your mind. Well. My Mind is, okay he's looking. Tired. He's looking at by he's not ready to go just I'm. Perfect. Dangerous short COMP- countries, I don't want to Russian. Get tagged Bucknell think about it approaches should've gone off them not spend too much time thinking in August. So you get caught in the have seen what he's done in his achievement and you think about think about that why in my hands fly you know but a great we've got rematch Eddie Eddie's work in the Reema Madrid rematch I'm I nothing in his second fight I'll I'll blitzen. Edgy fell his power any point during the fought? Were there any warning signs in the previous around other? ECON- be in the verge of throwing that. So assured throwing that sort of combination now we know strongly was we know or hardy quench. Defensive good mind was up. Even I got tagged my hands up got the middle but I'm you know we? On Open right that's a making a misses it over and right let us catching them. But you know obviously the punch, a frozen fight which you know obviously I made it slipped my mind forbidden. Agassi is his lost resort. So a punch punching any, it went back into but I love people underestimate mindedness made him. I know dangerous. It wasn't an in-depth wire. I wear to rematch closing impatient case something like this happened I mean. It is a lot of people in social media talking rubbish. She got growing Monday night front were in Bob, ironman those guys like Landon glowing at the fact that a loss because they didn't want they charge such a fight nor can knock him up you under rees who turned on what Noah Lawsuit Happy that I've lost off to fight me these guys a bunch of cowards. Butson FELUCCAS is that thing? Bother you all? That's probably Wa said some people go missing because I don't want to face up to that suicide of the poisonous nature of social media? Because people talk about you when you're talking about. Agassi of lost the people he's ready to sign a win Aba Britain Bridge for a which is loss. Of I've been supportive of them you know obviously biggest rival division when he lost all support him, I didn't. You got busting boundaries. No I supported him. You know what? I mean West different with me. All this support, my countrymen against anyone in some of them, Britain's fighting anyone to support him. Well, that's doing these guys. I'm insecure. I know. I am I know good. Can Be and I know I'm capable of doing unnecessary perfect reliever could beam. Weapon a fluid, and when did he pull the punch? Point. So it's a wonderful thing. If you had the choice again, often covered I think our no the answer if you had the choice again as to. Taking that flight, a potential banana skin or sitting on your ranking in way in a way could you guaranteed short? Would you still have might design decision and had that? Out taking. Approach a fight in the same way would this some small adjustment Asano many with been again? To. About the second flight now with the rematch already embrace. Will you make any changes to your preparation you and insane might have in the corner that was. Is An easy thing to put the two together with the feet and the corner Would you look at? Maybe settling down with a trainer early in this time and not having to make that change later on. People, always look to the economy blame the blame the training under condition of people looked to blame that. Factor was it was me everything was in good great Kemp David came in images have real good. Good coach good experiences. Outta great cam everything was good. I was Boston the files beaten someone who's Voss experienced a male dominant every time I touch them you will. It was badly it was done. He was out I mean. So I'm not I won't make any change the only. Purpose taking my head up the line when I took up to. The right that's it. That's it. Nothing goes I need to do different to be victim apart from the tiny little just been defeat I'm moving my head a bit more especially when it took to hide God. Does it. Does it? Is Not it's not a isn't rocket science only to change a hundred things I make excuse I'm not gonNA blame the corner blaming one is me I made the mistake on I paid for it. So that does it. You know what I mean. You know I hate fighting blamed people. Was Right my team wasn't this. To take a win some, you lose some and say we're not GONNA win. No what I was winning and I got you know that's is is what is quick turnaround if it happens quake December does feel one needs end. November start sombody symbolic around the corner does that quick turnaround help you or help him do think. It helps Bo's cooperating shape needs coming off a positive and negative media disarm wanting to fight by Ko united so both think. It makes a second fire. Even, greater uneven more. IS GOING GONNA. Be Money's going to be twice as dangerous. Could be modified the do is do what he did lost on the great. Books is. When you're winning it's all good but then you saw this okay, you have good heavyweight winning. You know now that I've lost Kennedy come back again, you know what? What? Drum a? Great man. That's a great point in you know. He did sue syntactical breakdowns before the flat and you highlight the dangers the perfecting. Being said, did you think it would come true in that fashion? Billions Jab was. I think it was good and also it waste. It was good going out I think he I think he was scarred with it and it was effective with the job. Got A stop provoking from sliding with as we spoke on the breakdown and which is quite obvious. I feel that he steps to the left NATO's right over the top because by the left Hook and obviously that was a movement finished it but. I think for me I think was so comfortable you'll comfortable with. Effective, close. I think that was a but I think that's I think that's the problem that you would so comfortable with coast, you allowed him to get close to the end. We have hindsight dowse break you down the. Dominated by Kennedy's close to like don't twice the wrong before he was ousted seemed to everybody but I think we're both good conduct punches obviously I need to get him close to cut them as well. You know obviously Lama success with in between what he was doing as well at the same time. So so you know it was Like inside cities offer does not know. Yes but. They didn't didn't feel threatened by his movements way. Maybe maybe that if. Again inside. Kept kept. Your mentality that he can be dangerous a bit a bit more HBO. Go. Look at the things. That's the difference now. He was he was too close to you. I think then. E Code with a good job to his credit gets and you at the four time and then he could any let because at the top, it would be the edgy. Without. Job Catches. You you go back you move back and you gotta think and if I Were you would move back and go back. Tim Again. We're picking Harrison and we're looking for. Different. Folk. You came on with his. I actually focus on them but you know. He's books, women? Yeah. I mean is tough with someone with the mentally dillion want because they always come to Fi-. Is. Always like doing damage close as watching quite a few of these flights over the last few days. And Be Fair prevette kin and reverse all the stalls have given in the most difficult I've albeit he was absolutely dominating in Quebec can in this one but problem was he was dominated in can in an area of? Of which pervert can is comfortable. That's the only problem and I thought that you know when you watch I mean the benchmark for beaten perfect Kim for me. It was survey ages knock knockout because AJ got buzzed as well. You'll forget that AJ got buzzed hauled by public and he was in. Trouble. But obviously, the template is one of the best heavyweights full-time Wladimir Klitschko bloody may push his weight oversee coach by manual student at Cronk Light Manner where you wait Sonia bat leg soon as somebody is smaller that gets on the inside he pivots impose it basically just blatantly fouls everytime Posey's head down. Yeah. Going into the FAI is said to vet can would be is most dangerous early and dillon would take him out late because I expected a jab, the dillion score that is actually better. In this is was your best jabbing display of your career in my book it came from the Shoda it was snappy as Berry said, the only thing it was was lacking it. I wasn't coming back enough in time but other than that I may not fall that your jab it was busted him up and I'm here that for me Nick, am keep bussing you'd call in with your job. It wasn't you right and you'd caught me your job. That's a great thing is there's an immediate rematch. Is Not, so much things to change. You know we'll go back in. Then you know just judgment inaccuracy I would certainly the JEB halfway out there for him to count because I was coming back with his right hand so I could come up with my right hand. Myra. Fook. I'll see the someone's things that goes on in estimates the two or three seconds doesn't okay if a footage of. A half shore. Let him come in. Come back and. Then come up with Iran had difficult kitchen. With what is it leaning forward s Roy mellow folk low into the high. It was something that was going on. You know it's crazy. It's crazy. I just think I personally think those tactics are spots on against God, that's maybe two inches taller this coming down in the crowd. Short shortlist do run the risk of getting quicker. You know. But yes, I think weapon. I wouldn't hook he got before the hook you know but it's great. That's why I'm not depressed don about it. You know obviously I'm thinking okay I made a mistake. Let let Leonard Three lost as rough notes is low the positions alone you know I'll be back back to collect the rent. Did you say you made a mistake and maybe you did. You talked about world class. He made he may. He may the fantastic move? Yes. One hundred percent see the gap any any committed and he came and he came up with a fantastic shelf which no not. So anyway, mostly in the heavier division co shop like that. If you if you're on the floor in the end, you'll you'll superhuman that just a few of the charts that just changed fight so Enormous. You can take solace. It wasn't a it wasn't a half court shot that knocked over and show frailties shot finishing anybody. Up Brown off Iran and getting gone, you know what I mean so so you know Some people he's saying I don't care like a done muffing up seven flights event over one hundred ahead seven forget I'm still in the Boston. What he does, it wasn't a box him out I would. Him Eat US. Beaten a close road champion Olympic. Gold medalist is what he's done that. What am I going to Monroe Germano beating what he does? On that point a very good thing what you've just said that the the extent of his amateur career and indeed his procreate because in the early in the early, no he's may not know is he was the most with the exception go he was the world's most destructive. You have to look at the defeat of you look at the defeat of Peres these guys he took them out a them out. In style in freshen. Took them out in stop with show shots after everything is Delia. WHY LOVES SHORT SHORTS HIMSELF? He go into you know. So you I personally think you're just gambling I think you're gonNA give him. You gave him that Opportunity I'll keep you thinking without improved, jabbing you improve and you keep smacking him along for five to six rounds. He will fall apart but I still think if you go in close you all given what he wants. I've never been this excited for before in my life goes excited for the first five but no. Is is like it's that turning all over again you know when? I. Feel it's like ten in pro all over again. That's feel you know I'm just I'm buzzing but I WANNA go to train the know forcing myself to eat threats. And I'm for us. It's a great narrative. We say showed a highlight reels of you joplin twice you her in him. You, and then he hoping you is a great narrative for return is some massive massive I only hope we have. Well. This is different is taking it out of a sudden you a boxing guy who who is being wolves level. We all thought he may be he was past his cell by Delo bit. He showed that he's not he's not. And you're going mass a massive you would you still like favorite won't be maybe probably wouldn't you have appointed for fall you just it's another risky fight but no, maybe got him at the time. Now it's you gotta prove you deserve that ranking in not. All of a sudden. As I would you under chaffey me nothing right now He's a chip on a show. Like you know I made a mistake it was her experience. Stuff like. Touching my glove every time like windows concentrate get onto him. It was the stuff to to to just shut me from what listen. It's all good. Listen I'm a guy I learned quick learn quick. You know it sounds good. Listen you know? I, can't wait. To get in there and I, just I just WanNa go I WANNA go now. Dylan have you had any contact with the WBZ? My team's doing that they do that right now focusing in this way and it's been hundred ad every day to hear what button three shot I don't care about what it Wbz say my team Yo what's going what's going on what's game you know but cited Gary wanted same camp will you go to Portugal again? I I'm already here I'm him I'm. I'm reminded, Hey, all kinds of training I. I WANNA. Get listen. You know it's like you set moments career that Dust Dumping T. the lost untraditional done demand this time this is done something else to me again know now in slack I feel I feel it's crazy I feel young and youthful I'm again I feel I feel good man. He's probably GONNA be November early December The my I would say that if you really more than ever on those long shots are wrong. Right time was shot. And frustration and making so punches to. Then, you the short shots at you good that you'll be greedy be disciplined. You'll be mall dominance and I think even get into whether you if you keep it not. So long I make sure the job and everything comes back as fast as it comes out and an advertising which I think you can do by the way I think you are doing over. Jabs whip. So when you go there, so I, think you can work on but don't let the show comes. I'm still learning I'm sending. Forget like I'm not. Complete. Article, forget I'm Su- improve still. Claimed to be all on the complete article wherever I'm still learning. I'm still not my stats fighting also different from ish additional boxes that are fighting because my background where I come from a weapon to me live on, them must all different. So. You know I'm I need to approach in a way we need to take Pinkham Buddha's invest getting a mixed into way to erect to me into my style because. I'm. Become. Rich go on five per victim electrical go I'm not gonNA come I just show our our whatever opt out to do what I do all I make adjustments and that's what I said the keyword, these judgments Berlin will. You go because the way that you're on your holiday. So enjoy you two weeks restaurant. No, we're not going to get rid of this quick. You're going to be back pretty quick and we're going to hear from you count me about Frankie Guy saw advisement take care. Northbound. deleon was not the only heavyweight involved in big drama weekend. One man who does not go about his business quietly is on next guest. It's Allen the savage Babich. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for calling me to through et listen. I'm sorry about my parents I got bitten by a spider in. Received the superpowers. Look like this the riddle. Everything was right. There was like a dream. It's not the same spotted that went into. So Jackson Parker. Think. He's a soy. You looks like I felt it was writing away from. Or? How do you reflect on the whole you can experience. Gets over Copsey, the quarantine, and then you have. Sean winters which was lively, say released and ENA. You went back to savage mode on stay at how do you reflect on not just your performance but the whole week. I'm still at Cup I'm still not. Really because so many people calling my country bed. They went I get I give it to resist these days. So I'm just giving it his all day in. It's all new for me. Exchange saw, I'm still not I'm not really I just saw joe like delete dream of a emotional but I think about it because I worked so hard for. And now it's here I need to soak it the. Run Date Wrestle Deseo. Just reading the railroads still. Have you watched the flight back yet. Yeah. The Times I like it. I like my fights 'cause. That's something different like attack i. WanNa do that different different fighting. I'm not GonNa go see what's he? GonNa wait. Destroy. Everything everybody. And I like I, like me I. Liked you. Fight. Through Jones. A like me I. Like me that's a very good record on. So as the savage now or is the ellen because just corn imagine you sit in writing poetry listening to classical music it just doesn't seem right? Yeah. I do yoga for you to know I have actually our. Our. Emotional, guy. Nutley so as well. So just crazy. He just. Drew Oh my energy out ABC debt for three days. I. Just laid the Beden. Through all of the other all right I'm cooler that I dislike do his thing. And our. Manager Bake Lake it's because. I'm going to bring you in here. Barry. Allen said he's had thousands of interview requests and was trending at number two on twitter in the U K on. Saturday. There's a reason why people like him can you see the attraction I couldn't see it to be honest I thought. Boy Into Watson to negative and his work. What's Your Gut who? County unease story about me they're worry about. You coach, you could see his cabinet because. His hottest leave. It goes all sitting didn't get up early finishes and so is being successful in doing. So boxing is audible counters and building analogy about the ring and I think she does that not actually quite well immortal you have to use Gender Regan. Levels out right now and the people up against eastern not refine cut us we. Want to see him again and I know I vote on this two fighters that I'd like to see mitigates the three different tiers actually and will be most. If not of my basic Britain because I wanNA, see him over he would often. Do you want to read that list than Barry Eight dollars being like that was mentioned straight away all tritter. Some real fucked. I think some of Italy. Nick. Web Tumbler the. Scientists. That's level. We seem it against that, and if he would be to prevail that I would say that. David Price David. Delays Golden Fabio Rosie those. And then you just. Completely what I would say the. Dubai feuding Joyce right now that. Chuck. E. ME straightaway allied with with the big into stunned that. I think just tested in the world of the first novel I mentioned the Tomlin open the Dave Allen's Bentley's or will good. But you just put the top tier of the British heavyweight. You Gauge. Of, fat and fashion completion forward. That's that's what I was. Worth it. For I always wanted to for feds was g you know I want to I want I want to walk to someone? That gets me up I. DON'T CARE if this judge Parker is developing closed everybody. TV knocks. The books was about styles before you know it doesn't most house. There's nothing about two men routes. You know my style big media was gonNA. Make? Fraser. Cutoff. Fights I like that I mean books for the offense. If you've got someone named Moins at you know you're going to say look for anyone but. They mentioned someone that they might have been more in few to find next. There are mentioned comedy to right. Now. For a very short period of time to demand something in September this next month. So I said, of course, I mean I mean and I would like develop because easy to out outside because I don't like you. Know Something Is a genuinely Nice Guy I love. And Koch decided I would bring it. just got Mitch just go on made against. Like. Gary Allen speaks about a savage and we've seen the savage forts four Cao's I wanna make sure phrase's city on. At the moment, you'll try just to power through people just to go through people, but there will be presumably be people that will be able to stand up to that might have I wanted to other things. Would you WANNA see gary in terms of development as the level of positions? Improves. At, say Allen's take advantage like can the lack of high you go take that take advantage of the lack of size he called let these big guys claiming he's GonNa be in and around him he's going to be like a superhero. He's got be caught a lot and man you know he's he's sworn in around and then popping up with a big shot and getting out the way and coming back shop head movement and sharp countering basically leading off landed. Hopeful if he doesn't land is gaze hit the way get his body out of the way and be ready to counter again he's got to do that because he he punches from both shift into a cellphone style with a right hook, which is what equal showing there with the other day. So he's got the attributes to do is the size and the smaller because he's going to need smarts the savage can't be a one, hundred, ten percent violent. No how about you know the agree with that? Yeah agree with that. But you know I started dylan all the time we do fifty around saw. The sizes never was never I both everything everyone around drink and I always did that I never go back I'm not like the small guys were on the small. Fix if you see my fights or Miami is fine all my professional life I big. Big. And I don't need it exercise. I was by last fight I was two hundred, Fifty, eight votes. Just approved the people that can do it. I can do five things I can just blow and I wasn't looking Milan I was big goes under the killers. I. Got to stop at your only fifteen minutes on the fight. So it's has I like it I Three kilos I'm more deadly and I have. decided that smell risk. He could take on some odd. To. The Best of me, you know I think it's I can. Anybody because Michael is only coach. Really. I WanNa, do way the club I know how all that stuff. But if I read, you overdid for south, you want to be shocked that Chelsom. Jammed stuff I can sleep for. I WanNa be like Mike Tyson, I just WANNA go in debt want. Someone with. That's yeah that's. Exactly, what I was just said that you're going to have to use the Mike Tyson inside head movement a know your big hard man, but you can't be taken them big lakes from those guys. Be Small about your attacks. You know that's what I was saying. Or. But believe me I do it because. Not Out ever out if I didn't do that Saudi Arabia if I don't WanNa get past they still right. He's not GonNa Budget for firearms. If I don't WanNa get I can move I can move I said my coaches Olympic coach can has lifted so I know how to do all of this but for some w I, know positions I saw no problem likely development I. Don't see any problem. For me. Don't meet the grads guy by again I don't see I'll he's GonNa bust out already went. Through Dave. On. A real world to there are because that's the style fight Ben somebody goes identified rounds and I don't break down on what the other stops. Points but I. WON'T BE HEALTH EVERYBODY'S I can go five rounds I. Did if you watch the fights, my coach did the number I drew nineteen patches in I. Threw a sixty I think sixty three bunches and the second down before stoppage saw this psycho firearms for. This day I what I want to throw a hundred budget out that's really damages resides us over value. You can't do not work out. Can you if I throw hundred punches you look at the time IS TACTIC UNDER YOU WANNA go Brazilian tactic just a Russian and make panicked offsets. They can't get rhythm your s course of course received so easy said like. To do. In rings and I can do it. That's why I switched the savage. He doesn't get it. It just goes in and do it in this day. Wait just a second that. They'll winters. But you waited. Waiting. For Veterans Face Google. Tactics what would your tax is big believe Hobich because I know you've called them out. That's a fighter interest. Everybody is old courage super super Tell me tell me how would you go about beating him? That's a bit. The Perfect Club because he is a boy. His mouth you know his boring to show is bull, healthcare? I wrote shaking I I've intimate code. Portraying nobody took over they said all you're going to be the I went de said. Ship. So we gotta get opposite solvent. I'd be like is to be like me. He's all flesh to the United Scott and stuff i. Fifty Euros set us all. Watch the damage and I would go I would go close became i. Mother I was mother. Even. Before the fight I bitch love it some press conference. was. Eventually three is like nothing you know like there's I tried. Stars do that and Take. It because I think this Jason I, bring my my my life experienced. And if you can be told that, I'll say good he'll. Say like. Judge. Allen Mercer listeners probably don't know you'll ruin into boxing which was far from straight-forward. Listen I was. When I was. I attend all my life I was in the national debate will handle and then I went to emigrate. Eddie years. Old. Years in the. Initial chip and maize for whatever I do I always, and then it was enough for me. Some I didn't see myself then I started watching both. Joe Phrases or words Jack, Dempsey's those rates. I don't have money of August I need to work, but I can't do a postman and they're both. Said GonNa be good. And I went to bounce Doman I could train by today tonight and I did that for eight four years. I. Didn't most of my fights thrown tonight sheep in the morning I went to the fight. That was the guy you know. They're the the bengals stood by the site they by side even render something hit the fan I come in. That says more about the Croatian temperament that you've got loads equation men that they could take you on on a door at I. Had a chance to ask you about Dylan, does that come was a huge shock to you? Sorry for him. I mean, he had a chance to speak to him. Yeah. Of course I never feel. So nobody should steal soda for. Instance Gillian to protected by uncle and everybody's dink's case with a nobody said band, so ki the game. The top of the box nobody said. Given. What did you say you got caught and he got the Mitch like one month from the fight I think that is the highest level who can be if I lost selectors nobody will look at me. You Talk to me right now here say, say folks several you. Know whatever say that he has woodrow Kilos 'cause he said but listen after the fight I was with the didn't of course, and the election was lung Chu Cup flaky was shook up working funny up deals like you. Mexico can take A. Of Punch for Oetken so that throws. A? Beasts that. Took a shot, I think the difference was up until the end dillion was only out boxing amuse putting a beaten on him. You know and it just looked like for vacuum was going to go any point whereas the chewed the shot was just out the blue billion being it being buzzed in the second round food for Becky. Move, moving left in the second round. But after that, he hadn't buzzed in me into the body hasn't really buzzed in. So Dylan hunt taken a be in before the knockout was just like a shock knockout whereas pervert that can had taken four rounds of a beaten. So I would say that stands very will in favor for the rematch I just WanNa ask like you've books you books Lova in the WSB No. So as an amateur, but I seems to be this magnetism this love from the UK fans and I think that's because we like people the backup they say but also we love characters. You must base yourself and your laundry daily and so it's natural. But do you see yourself boxing pretty much primarily in the UK is a proud. Of course, of course, enlisted people especially UK people realized three talk. COUGARS does against them. It just says. I'm the. Best, I. 's Okay there's nothing is fake and I'm really know everything can say I every day I changed so hot but did use people recognize I got so many messages I got the motion everytime I said I got so many messages. Incident Molten just. Five hours stuff now. People recognize me and I think that is the best thing you can do to be recognized as we have. Such plenty of characters nobody gives them time I love K fans the little. Sound like fake. Love I will fight for them the debt every time I go. No I don't have recent I. Don't have family because the books I always say I put my life on hold this beautiful thing the most beautiful thing in the whole world but I won't drink. Percent Purity because the some of the kids or something Kubota. Hundred percent. Nineteen. Hundred and I. I want I want to leave you hiding legacy either. EARN. Some money care about what's more I'm was before. Allen's nailed something right on the head shop. He's nailed something run on the head there like imagine it. When you're training Allen, there's no social media posts or wherever even necessarily do have to do it but you remind me of the old fighters is the reason why is always went away to camp because you call be around your family, you have to desensitize yourself. You have to become a book sociopath to become that killer in the ring if you're going back to the wife and the kids and the wife Tenure Brett how days go to. That's going to soften you know lot people don't want to hear that but that's how is have to be. That's why the best always go way to camp. So Allen's got that idea right and he's hitting. I. Do think a lot of British fries lucky young up. They could learn from Allen's men's Halley the fact that you need to do sometimes right it's time for social media, but it's time to go away and work and become an animal. Become, a really clever animal. That's what we were. The best part is clever animals. Yeah. Animals yeah. And I just listened to my st with the say, go ahead I moved from everybody. I. WanNa. Watch you my coach just Below and I think that like you said, I read about these initial grams was together deduction to the fans don't do that too much. You will do it 'cause I goods they don't but. Not, too much you know then I need my donald loans to talk two days before the fight doing that goes hungry wolves is catching kids brady. That is the same Gracia I don't know how. I do escape about today's hours. I was actually on the ninety six kilos and I didn't need nothing a judge down the fight that was ninety, one, ninety two. I'm hungry and I'm so assess by the savage. Thanks go go go back to normal single human being allowed to savage Allan. Thank you rather. Just, come to you before we go you. Re. Regardless. Of what? Alum Babich fits in that picture all. European heavyweights, adding Allen's that mix of list of what is it? You've already mentioned it another Mixon. No exciting I I think he's he he will make fighters. Boxes have to fight so evil evil make people with the we character be exposed people who have a strong candidate after showing I. think that's the way it is full shing to. Even if you can do. It. A million miles away from me but. Emails Mailbox workup. You'll never find me you must be a box, but the fact is. You have to, you will force you to do it all the way I don't think and I feed. You might be able to do that and then knock him out to do that for the ration- offer fights six and eight ten. But I Still think that is. As you you alcohol, you would find anybody like most like words it's going up the levels licensed steady 'cause you don't before you can walk. If you go in the game world classified today, some of the things that will. Always love you need to practice things. Just. Just your style slightly to as you know because you you started, we'll any weights you know what works. And Joy that's that's why give it three. So three to fight is what I think. About number I got on and then slowly step you up I think if you could keep your Stahl at the effective that way. You're not if you will be loved by the fans, but you'll be rewarded financially. Seen Exciting Pfizer listen I see. By the way talk that's good for me to go that note. I. LIKE HIS IF I. If I also yes briefly that no because I. Speak Differently Bro You. Did he fights the fight instead that if I had at the love of course, and then if you if you make an easy, they're not just shows are good you you're resting. On paper that. You took confident theater goods. He said what smart because the mentality that's my shit I don't do Veg I'm mentally certain Evans said a mental defect. Break every bit mentally I broke millimeters before he got married was dead I saw this is worked as ten years dormant. I know I looking I. Think. What you're made of. Everything. That's why ain't I'm different as don't you I'm not going to do my job against your jet lag do that going deeper? I WanNa see we when they could make for the race for more. Then you're gonNA fight find a fight doesn't have to show I want to beat the shelves of those Boxes Love It love it. I want to be there was six dollars. and. Just message, me privately occupiers address. Thousand. Thirty. About but you'll find very much. Thank you all UK offense for I. Really appreciate every single message every single one of you. Now from the savage to the slick joined by a world away who's flown under the radar since turning professional in two thousand and sixteen but he certainly got our attention on Saturday night. It's too slick. Chris Congo I'm good. Now buzzing over the weekend. I had about one hour sleep often the fire the whole day on Sunday I was still thinking while I was able to get the job done such a long time out I was just please leave myself and just feedback a got from everyone. So I was very happy. Yes. Certainly one of the performances of the noise and one that you spend the whole. Week and actually the previous build up to the council flat spent a whole buildup tennis. This is exactly what we're GONNA do but I still think it came as a surprise to many people because you haven't really had the opportunity to show us that in your career. So there was a degree in surprise biopsy not from you and you're in that same now we knew. We could hire him and like said with you for clay. He he's not really the most versatile fighters ease. Great. Fire is good. Punch power a comes. Very good but we need. The more he kept coming in and trying to fight is the the more he'll. He'll be able to punch because just remember come forward finite woody's body weight is coming forward so. He will definitely to something. It was. Perfect performance because you can always improve if there was one little doubt when you had him her and you went for the finish I think there was some concerns that you might not have the experience to finish this show but will say no punches. So felt that was the worry 'em was that going for your mind always you would searching for that finishing shaw. A hundred percent I think the first time of it was a a I made a mistake where I was. I was head on in a bit too much. I should have went to the Bundy's the second time I did. I hit him with a few buddy stanton didn't went to the head to confuse The first time I said, let me take a step back during the lunch myself out an innocent crowd because see my house moreover. Taken around off, just being smart and just making sure. That Osgood for the rest of the around which which I did Mon- also is bringing. Gary Logan First Time Press Worthy. You would Chris Performance on the weekend. Every impressed he had a tough guy The last time we saw the scarred wasn't able to show tough kind of scruffy guy you know and he wasn't able to show the best of Chris Congo but I mean, if you needed an opponent with a really good record who himself has ambitions of going to high of things who you know style was Chris Congo could look good against it'd be nucle-. It was perfect for him to look good again because he came up kristen straight lines, it was ambitious. He's got good hand speed but he was coming. Chris in straight lines and all. Day Long Chris GonNa pick him up for that colour was really impressed with the jab mega impressive fake off the job with a left hook exceeding mayweather you did that at yeah. It a really complete show in good forty work. Good a good naughty final blue for what he wanted to get close as well. Do these work because that's where he needed to work but he just wasn't deceptive enough and clever enough to get on the inside where we needed to do his words you pick him off as he was coming in and you agenda dictate in. So yeah round really good performance. Barrier Question really degree of what Gary said he had no I. I got his. Most impressive guy you maybe. Statistically made few that's not always easy to overcome because I think clay's stronger committee there'd be sheltered. So even though stomach shoot your style, just lassen sometimes can overwhelm. You saw react to that and I think you reacted. The president you will always come on. That's important when. The. Pressure is to stay calm because you can people can panic because you know used to. It's in a fight scenario you could panicked and you never I think that was impressive and also as Gary already said, the movement off the punches is very important. I think that's it's always especially in your move rather than A. then. It's always. Not always depended you throw is the move that you make before the after you throw that can make the difference in all the fight plays out and I think every talk you through your was didn't look to do something whether it's moved to feet move the head. I think that was that shoulder a bit of maturity. That you had. To we ended on Saturday nuns. Chris, just in terms of. Other than just put me on the bones professional four years. Did you start to think wolf forgot due to show? Did you start to think that? On another the beast opportunity, he was going pass you by that you weren't going to get the platform to showcase she skills. So beyond a slot like I said our speaking to Chris. Lloyd. Do we can before before we got into the bubble announced India symbolic. Quiz because I still hot I'm getting opportunity as well as quite hard as low as so obviously, there's no of me being in this if I'm not going to get a chance to show on NATO, so I was actually going to walk away from. Speaking to a lot of people I'll very steep it to do that. I'm happy now and I'm happy to showcase made a that's not even us probably half of is a there's a lot of died in defy as well which. Is Good. So next time I can improve learn from the first fight dot had sinks flashier. April. I would say Chris, I would. I. Would say upped I understand the frustration got he's hiding ipod. Sketchy. Dame's Z. had to make a big a big thing. It can change not in views. It can changing weeks a Guyq packed sports and I was undefeated. Twelve. Months to go work in Ireland and I came back. Within just the trauma being back. We'll talk just for being just a bit of luck that perseverance thing is more important than skill in many ways it is. So you've gotta just as high as. Financially, highs and mentally draining it can change in a week making your creativity Kinda. Gotti will obviously got his. Got A lot does Gilson it actually. Each. Other and I didn't see. But yet it can change means it's. I came in at the top kind of the top promoter of the day Mickey Duff and along with French word and it didn't work out I was with Mickey Free Years, and then I split I ended up with Anthony and Frank Maloney and You know I got more opportunities in. But then all the sudden the opportunities dried up and I retired for about four and a half years during that time, I became a mall surveys on sky. Sports as you remember an associate manager matchmaker footer, late Dean Powell Resi so Saad I I went all around the out season but his McCain back in two thousand, one within free fight. For a wvu world gets accolades. So is opportunities I mean? You want to give it everything. You've got you WANNA take varnish of every opportunity to get into bringing our harder is Chris. No at all is where you just. How is this guy getting ahead of me? Why is he why? You know it's just all about for more important links is Evan the four issue to stay with it because this ain't no easy getting. You know that now Chris I think other reasons or one of the things I told you back as you just a? Nice Guy. Never seen you screaming and shouting banging your fist and calling people are not asking me to do that. Now buff you kind of in the driving. See a little bit that. The platform. So who do you WANNA fight next Britain abridged titles is is good for me. I think are now a talk with myself is Kinda more vague a need to to get more titles. Push on for bigger things so. I'm trying to take step by step if I could get the British title next. Of Jenkins, I'll happily do take not in the Hawk be and just go from there but there's other fights in pipeline. There we go. Obviously, just Kenny easing mix Ben is also in Mexico. You ever man I'm ready to go. You're going to see a much. Chris Congo. You believe you've got the in Josh, Kelley or damage arrival abuse bit unique finals. Yes. Hundred percent I believe so. I believe I have the be in an every anyone in the division like I said, I believe in myself highly not believe I'm the best welterweight in the UK so. If you're you don't believe in yourself, you're in the wrong school. And about Khanna Ben do you own good terms with them or does that not really matter? It all meet really matter We we all care that. We see each say highs were streit's mind. And they of Phi Phi Mandy spoke often and yes, it's respect. My I don't I don't hate these guys will have any hatred for them. As business food. So when we back into will do you like the highlights I it obey Congo I won't. I just Kelly. Any woman as long as I can get in the ring with these these top five as in the UK I'll be happy. To feel the need in this. In this generation, all the evidence is all social media blogging and bragging more importantly you feel the need that you have to sell yourself more than just because he was different for me a guy, could you just? The only work and you just thought that the you guys you have to self promote you feel the pressure there year courses I mean that's gotTa. Be Done People Wanna CD's stop provides people in no. was screened on he wants to fight he. You Know I. Think my captors not not like may reveal anyone anyone ager umbro stuff. I'm more just calm guy willing to fight. But the thing about me is we're not get in the ring I'm coming for fight and you're gonNA see some explosive is what? The people saying. So even even just on the weekend just out to the show at some good feedback from disciplines as people people watching people. I don't even know speaking to them in could come decisions they was there was quite surprised get youth for out. He has been active on news talk competitor and I was able to get him out of that even not even earlier about late because. They will say that raw because I've been out for so long. Didn't allows able to do the rounds. I'm sure he got no. For and you know we always communist shake regardless. I I changed me. Come comeback in two thousand, Chamber Gym for about four months and. It was horrible. He's absolute May. And it's different levels million because he's so fit. You a he could almost impossible. Of course, I know when we do our runs if I can stay close to Jim. Place I'm in a good place. Jim was in all-day Jim was the obviously in my day. I. Was on the bill when he box Brian Mitchell for the world junior lightweight title Alves on the undercard Edison Causal. So everybody gyms fitness was renowned within the industry. So when he went through, we just knew that he was going to take it to another level with as far as as well. Maybe five is had they condition is being amazing is going to be the best runner in box I think and that's the outfit that is including fighters that we've seen Gary before we let crisco out other outlets, three names that we mentioned and stylistically who would you pick him against Kris. Jenkins for the British Josh Kelly is an amateur. With his and obviously, Khanna Ben Promotional stablemate which the brings itself which would you pick their you know? All while all free of them are good stylistic opposites for Chris, Congo all free of makes good fights. Probably, say Jan kids you WanNa get that you wanna get average I the others have gone a different route they gonna you got a chance to get the Lonsdale belt may a for that free time I would love to go hands on it. So fi gets Jenkins or don't think would hurt you. He's books in skills are highly repeat, but I think yours. A bit more venom. Unusual. Coffee move in. Shots. You got call each of which is only getting better on which leads you on to your right and you like going to the body. Thinks stylistically, you can even books in from the outside over March him down work immuno. So for me personally a lot at five. See US get british-built runways I'll be happy for you now we so before. For me, I think that I think Jenkins is a high. Just because I'm Welsh. Swansea he does incompetent you hate each other. It's A. I think the Ben Fights I think pulling you could boxton. This could get could no penn combined with course in the aggressive? These are he's almost impossible to deter, and also it's the biggest name, Su it is just candy might be the best. Of the three but I think the bigger name. And it's an easy fight to make the. Most boy if you Chris. Having fights I think now you don't. Know you know you talking about you. Can't lose. That will mention just as a quote career developments momentum. It's also a bit. You made a bit of a name. That'd be forgotten about can the next show whatever the next show is I. think important other. You do stuff that not natural to you and sell yourself. It's either that like. To to keep yourself relevance and if you're not fighted, you've gotta use your mouth mates and it's horrible. I know you want to do that. But I think it's important to keep you. There with those names in the conversation because you might be a mountain they want to avoid because he wants a bucks six foot tweets nobody. S. A very very good point at Barry's on that. You know, I. I'm getting the same thing. We've Deal Juma he's mandatory challenger, but we don't know when a rep who wants to defend against. The on this room is added that he just doesn't want to but the end of the day you all going to be that man with your style, you all the mets going to be avoided. Let you all the law scully WANNA fight. So now this is where Barry's right. This is where you use social media. Coordinator. Matt. In a nasty way, just just keep mentioning their name just keep saying yeah, I'm on the grind on the grind gives I'm coming Gaza coming, and then they can either choose reacts oil ignore you. But the main thing is that the fans will be talking about the fans will be saying, wow, Chris Congo's. been Chris Congo's just cool that just Kelly Chris Congas just quote at Kris Jenkins and that's what that's what makes fights as well. Fan Anticipation. So Bro no your quiet yo you or you boys are very well brought up boys but sometimes it's safe to deal. You get yourself. No is to decide that you're going to be villain in the role connors very popular beat. beat the villain that the goody boy the why about that? At the moment, everybody students who can about your performance on Saturday so you still very much on on people's lips. It's been great having you on. Hope you've. Got some rest and go out and do some into some degree on there isn't many goats his buff hopefully you can. Get a few weeks, Restivo? You come again yet. Definitely I mean I think ten days is good enough for me as you know on the on Alexa. Take. Good, mom. So in a year duress, ten months is good from retraining this. This is my job. This is what I d To Saturday so I'm I'm I'm always ready to go when I'm the last person you wanna a who lost minute because especially with my coach always be ready who got so yeah I I have ten days off and just get feedback in Jim while Kanwar I need to know what need to improve on from from this, right so Thanks Chris loss loss see certainly breakout night and I'm sure we'll be seeing. A more big welterweight flights very soon. Now, don't think we've forgotten about Taylor v per soon to a lot of people were predicting the will be another bone stormer and they will not let down Andy Clarke had it ninety six to ninety, four two per soon or fan poll on twitter forty, six percent favouring A. Taylor. Win After ten rounds Gary. I what did you think time? At the time I had just about winning it just about what a what was just a bit cleaner. She was getting a I. Most of the time there was around around that could have gone either way to be fair but Katie's what was cleaner and that's what caught my eye. You. Think. On. I felt the opposite I thought the soon just Nick I. Don't think was a robbery but I did I did not an issue of such a with with the Cleveland. Scenario that he was clean to work. I. Think she throws. Punches she knows she proves correct pursued a wild they actually the. Points in London on Katie said his face with McLean shots. She just throws him and she throws so many Solo Miss. Shifter six. To, allow to it looks scrappy but actually the punch line the clean. So I celebrate. Tussle. impacts and I still take that. Maybe. Books Route and she above Aka. Unbelievably tough. She's A. Woman. She don't she. She never gets credits. Caterers have credit approval for boxing skills. What's that? That was a fight that I thought I wouldn't want to be in a fight like that's. The one of them to be honest. I think she gets better I think she could pit around the target mall. If he's allowed to understand up I think sorry sorry it's in their best. I think I think we need to accept as well. That would come in near to the end of his career than we ever would near the beginning. Yeah at opulence of you before before a tweet said if Katie's legs on not show like I thought they were in New York. then she wins and they she just about had enough movement. To just just to give us enough distance for me to land the cleaner shots. But if you look at KFC say four fights ago, the lake speed and the sharpness of the feet have slightly dwindled somewhat hand speed still there. But unfortunate she always relied on her feet to avoid. That's in range recruitment someone not pursuit who actually shifted I mean she's as awkward as hell, but she's got some good fundamentals. She knew that wink he comes out to the side. She needs to shift into a sample saucer Kate with end up running into person's right hook or at the very least get getting off you know and that was my issue that. Katie. This case about she, the shots combinations, which will deter and and the other boxer someone like the Sheen is one of those crazy fighters look punches. To, don't deter them. You can't just the shots yesterday with movements I I, make make him engage your brain and I think that's Katie. Move back and then she moved to the I. Think she needed. A big pivot on the front? Foot. FBI pig easily, and she never because he was exactly the same fight as the first look. Walsh to the funds you just if you have no one in the regional who cares wins, he won't say it's a win of course but. It doesn't affect your life. Then breath fight was just what he wants to see. It was just absolutely put into watch. It was phenomenal. I wonder it just not I want barry the if you. If you compare per soon to somebody that you've seen in the pros, the was thinking on night while she's Marcus my donner that actually the punches. Just don't stop they come from all of the wrong foot and off the. Biggest wrong stance. But she just doesn't stop throwing needs kitchen sink job but it's effective could without iffy punch defense and I think pursue for me reminds me of and fight back in my day at my waist go Peter Judson. With this walk through anything you given. A Johnson remember I needed just wouldn't stop for shot even just. Eddie was just absolute of boxing you. evacuated. Apolo. Thank God for me anyway because he was not meals but you'd have to bid a power he just average. Policy stop in attracts he was like presumed just throwing a nothing would determine the used movement to slow them down the punches with look and you'll also get styles out there you get stalls a fire we'll have a style that will be not not have the beaten them, but is is quite close to it. Allie had with Fraser. Guys that will short an ally. You're always gonNA have a stall. You just can't look great against and just think if they ever box again, it will be the same thing. Will we come out saying this? Very same thing you've me think can persons wanted you thinking kate he's wanted. Were you thinking Kate and meeting casinos one she's she's always going to have that solid can be hard to confound. And to think that Levy thought what? It was no robbery the I wasn't. It was that close interpretation yet, and even those whites squall cosma people was focused on. If they ten close levels, you can have a massive disparity in skulk I just remember lots in it might be field system they just give pursue Nichols Ronaldo, Taylor. Indicative Zone. That's why it give the box of the credits. Don't focus on that. You think like pierces matters. You've nailed it on the head, bow. So when we hear the big school everybody's inaugural everybody's inaugural. But that judge said ten nine in the close around he's handed he's called in it doesn't get to get that called back. Every round could bring close and he scored at ten months old of suddenly have said hundred points tonight A. Shock horror how can you score that way? Because they were taking close rounds you've now donate. There watching the spectators whistle making A. But ultimately, we take the fight in his entirety. Go I think God to. Pursue Nikki by two rounds or just can't say I, think one or two rounds you have to go. This is around that surround that surround it makes different either way there was no robbery I talk just. Don't. Any robbery cleese ended fight on word on the future I mean. I think we would like to see again but you. Spoke Katie Taylor Taylor's closer to the end of a in the star. So we now have the. That you could have two undisputed champions in two white divisions going up against each other Rocco's lost for belts at Jessica mccaskill. You could do mccaskey rematch against Katie Taylor full over the belts and all the belts Zehr interesting now or would you still want to see a box to senior brockhouse I? Mean I've also heard all Serena Serano or some absolute madness online of people saying it. Would come down to one, hundred, forty, seven auto not there's any interesting not truthfully that's madness spot ceron I think if they if they was a pay date for traffic, she would. Okay controversial. Would Katie one, four, seven, nine, that's a long way. Now, I think she I don't think she should I think especially box they just say like this how? You move up to lightweight maybe like fish. That's not student said out to anybody. I'll tangles featherweight boxer lightweights. It'll do that. You give away all. You can wait any event that you might have. At the highest level with every. Count ME. Wait. I would love to say against Toronto because of the styles will complement each other wonderfully that both really ready clean styles of Sarah, can have it up close as well and I think she's a little bit clever imposing at work is cleaner. She looks good. She Looks Great Sodas, k. e.. disembodied blood there gary as well. It wasn't that. Yeah. Yes. Definitely. Definitely I love it. She wouldn't walk through the punches shoot. Taste go with a favorite the. Fact that yeah yeah. Yeah. I don't get me wrong. I could see Taylor winning it but I could also see Serena winning it. You know because of said. The one detriment with. At. The moment now is her defense defense is not what it once was. So that gives before this fight eighteen months ago Katie nine and a half times at ten. Now, I would take it down to six and a half six, hundred, ten I. I still think I think Lewis combination as she goes she goes down to left right and the left took the ones who won last three plus compilation the when she finishes on the job, she never misses Salil Irish. Thing much artists thing is that once you strictly cal funding really good. Today we're go from the Cubans, the Cubans gravy to us and they perfected it. You've punches almost the Mesa great sponsor the fights off and I think that would work around. She thought that's a thing of beauty when she does stigma civilized pursue she just walked through it and I think that's Nobody is built by way. Very true. Very. Of the four weeks of flight camp, we have a little break before on next televised show. Now could be the perfect time to pick up a decent boxing book author, Todd D. Snyder has written the fascinating story of Drew Boondi Dini Brown whose Muhammad Ali's assistant trainer, Cornerman and hype man I who up with todd to find out about one of boxing's most mysterious and misunderstood figures. Dini really wasn't a boxing trainer in the traditional sense. He never box the signature or as a professional and that sort of began my research path is trying to figure out how does a guy who doesn't come from a traditional boxing background end up not only with Muhammad Ali for twenty one years but also with the Great Sugar Ray Robinson for seven consecutive years. So to call him a hype man. A term that comes OUTTA HIP hop culture. I don't think that's a slander at all. I think he was a motivational speaker he was a spirit code. Lots of different names come up when you talk to the people who knew him best I think heightened fits well. So at least some of the late chapters you find yourself feeling sorry for Bombini. Brown and. I want to phrase this correctly, but it was certainly a passage that struck me when all slapped in in the dressing room. When he chose the the road, the had been given to him by the the powers that bay in Kinshasa end I felt sorry for him. Why is it wanted by work? So we'll together because of the he slapped the some time went. Know, he never seemed to hold a grudge in. It's the partnership were perfectly in the hype man still again at the click of a finger, why is it that they seem to looks I will. Now. That's one of the things coming into this research that I didn't necessarily know is that at towns their relationship was rocky in contentious. That, you know they had had. Indian butted heads with the nation of Islam early on and he was exiled news time about Li I. Think he missed seven Ali fights based on some friction he had with light muhammed in the nation of Islam. But just like any great friendship or any great relationship, they fought like cats and dogs brothers, and then they were back together. Clear. Ali gave me the best quote she said, they were huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer. When they got together, they acted like little kids I mean they just couldn't stay manage other in in some ways they were with each other to the very end but there was some tough times in their head right about now it's hard to share some of that with the family and. Have Them SORTA resurrect some of the not. So pleasant memories in wasn't always you know perfect relationship. But It was a a wild ride for those two guys and Buddha the best seat in the house with the most famous athlete in the history of boxing or maybe American sports. Maybe for the wrong reasons but I think I liked of like the grit and determination in Boone Dean in the story of the being objected from the restaurant because of the segregation and then the ride down where all he would tell him to bow between these days and each. One contain me I'm a free man in my hall and he went and said I'm GonNa go to seven stakes when they finally did find a restaurant that he was allowed in Ali was made to stubborn stood outside. It takes you on a journey. If it was a fiction I, wonder if the hero, the book would be drew Brown the third wounded Nissan which she somebody to adjust. I loved those parts of the books he came across all. You certainly portrayed in So-so well, wanted if you want it just. Because he's your direct link one if you wanted to to tell us what he was like. A chip off the old block on that Sir sign that exists over the. It does yes. Medina's Funky full of flavorings for style and headed. This book had to have flavor and. I didn't want to tell the traditional boring kind of biography where it began with nothing but dates and facts. I. Wanted to take you the reader with me as I went on this amazing ride and as you said earlier, I'm still pinch myself trying the wake up this crazy journey. So our to put you in the car with me, some meat, his son for the first time I wanted to take you with me not meet the family members in his high experience all these wonderful stories, his son his son is very much like his father in through telling my interactions with his son in his son lived in extraordinary life to. It was a jet pilot it was a college basketball player First Generation College student very successful in business is kids went onto amazing things and I wanted to show you from the root to the fruit is needs to say on the show you you how his philosophy sort of show up in the lives of his family members his son. switch like that. Do His dad's voice and it's just like being there right beside him. We did become very good friends and you know when it came time to actually sit down and write the book. I just wanted to share those stories or readers because I felt like they were very much part of the story to. Yeah. That's. Right from the get go when he tells the story about not being allowed to drive his father's call then years later when he's had some success in these live picking follow up. I, think it was invited guests in can the car and he was like you go go out I did it was very nice so. Full circle very much. Enjoyed it just finally before I, let you go. Talk about boondocks need without touching on all a and as you talk about Ali without touching on wounded knee was lucky enough to go to all these funeral and cover it for Scott Sports and. I was just one of those moments where he have you always opened. You think you'd know something until you go to an event that you learn so much more than just wonder we'll all leave meant to you Because it must you must have learned things about Ali when you went down through the policy of Dini's life. I, grew up the son of a boxing trainer. So boxing was my whole life growing up in our box when I was in high school. In every weekend, we were fights in know I grew up with boxing beans sort of the center among universe and My father loved highly I mean Ali was zero and in my father's boxing gym was got Jeff Dean who was not father's right hand man. And my dad calling Boondi Dean because he was the guy who was there with him they can thin know no matter what. and. My whole life was watching Ali tapes and Ali documentaries. My whole life was sort of Lebanon lease through my father. My father was my hero in Ali was his hero. So bacteria slee I have no choice. But to be an Ali fan, you know I grew up knowing a lot about his life and the main in and outside the ring just is a his athletic talents who was the person. So you know a lot of the stories. I heard sort of verified was as a human being. And you know he had his demons to in his flaws to he was a main dislike any of us but their friendship. To write about it was so much fun. It was it was deep pleasure in my writing career and I'm blessed to be a part of their their journey or to get a tailspin stories that have never been out there before. The highlight of my writing career because I'm a lifelong Ali famous well. Okay so that's been Dany. Don't believe the available now on Amazon waterstones and other online stores. Gary come to you first why did they work? So well, together, this mysterious wounding brown character who had a lot of philosophical religious. Differences to Orly but really complementary events. These haunt man that was mccollum now great motivator it went on to Kinda like former. double-act. Because I persevere I four by. Sometimes. I think that obviously history at least one of history's greatest ever what we call Braggadocio type fights if not the greatest and they need somebody to believe in that to be that mad world that they're in that will will they think they're untouchable? You remember at least that dream where he said he always dreamt about flying above which is a. Psychologist. Somebody that. Not only thinks better than anyone else, but they buy into it I totally buy into that. So I believe it's an insane self believe this man came around time in history with no athlete spoke in the way apart from the man, he wanted to emulate the rest of the Gorgeous George nobody's spotlight this, and so he had somebody that totally backed him opponents Oatley believed in it totally talked him up time. He may have doubted himself in Boone. Dini said listen champ you OUGHTA champ you'll to trump for a reason and the to you know this who just were way off the reason why? Do you know too much about. Boondi need brown a than the obvious barry which was. Kind Queens the the most. One of the most famous boxing we'll time float about fly sting like a bee came from. Boondi Brown I mentioned in the book and George Foreman described him as the source Muhammad Ali spirit. That's a pretty good tagline. The fact I think there is not that works so well from the offsets avenue almost a decade sugary Robinson the greatest lived you straight away take your camp believed Aleve in hidden because he was around greatness so. You're to stand why he would listen to this. And that he had the knowledge that. At the hat I think the paraphrasing. Up that from what Roman said nothing when they was the source of a holiday spirit in already had a immeasurable determination and go from the Didi I think that that's simple. That's why could with Sugar Robinson to stop and. Believed in. Them. And also, then you have seventy is of experience. Founded on the trust. Announced it works in the night grew into into making ati the most be Seti Wallison and then obviously. Successively Walls. Before by let you go, is there a modern day driven Dini Brown that you can think of a great man what I'm trying to think of May with Alan Babich but I don't know if that counts. Daddy No. Good. Love. To say that there isn't there isn't I. Don't think I think hr it was gonna Glasses East riding around Tyson what was his name Crooked Visit Crocodile Yeah Yeah Crocodile but you know there are no individuals that want stand out on their own and beat at spokesman they will crude up there will ever you know is Is that we know of come up to sky and they wrote up with lot five or six people really. Come on now you know but that's just how wrote nobody wants to roll on their own or just have one. So one of doesn't feel that it can come and be away from the pack. Of Gold One I've got, I've got one Angel Garcia he goes. Is that hype man hype yet? I think. So but then again, he still he takes the pressure off of massive. Has But. It's all it's not the same. I think Brendan Ingle try their some adds to his to his insults built the fights you have say quilting with Angel Garcia under the train is now to take the fight this still just trash-talk and it's a difference. 'cause with Brandon it was closing in selection educated. You know it was closely e- could just strip you down these insulate. It didn't need to go aware as Denny's that as just got so many times he's just become. He's Pike enough again you know but. With brindle at Highest Matt respect for the way we went about it was just always intellectual highly intellectual man. Great, well, well, great way to finish it. That is all for this week show remember. On I my thanks to Dylan to Allen. The savage to Chris Bury and Gary emerge you go is for listening catch you again next week.

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Barry Jones & Al Siesta look ahead to 2020

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Barry Jones & Al Siesta look ahead to 2020

"Hello welcome to ringside boxing. PODCAST brought to you exclusively by scar sports. I'm on the clock and today we are out the way in just finished for the next bill on Thursday night at your call top Richard Rate for gays. Jack Massey plenty of people AH recruited to pass looking to find. The pool was shallow super featherweight champion. Jerry Jones and live go out Esther International Boxing Manager Fixer Winston Wolf as he likes to be known formerly a DJ offer amount. Thank you chaps. The bill on Thursday night I. It's an interesting fight at the top of it with reported Massey and report poor particularly somebody. Who if you go back over last season? If you're looking for a Pfizer most improved fighter domestically season you. You be hard pressed just to find anyone. We've done better than fighters of my generation. We always go back in my day. We with a mole competitive. They've fights at this stage about careers the most prospects because most prospects now we'll get to ten twelve fifteen no unless they superstars and awesome mmediately. But and then I'm fighting a little guys who've had five slots when five lost sixty two not this kid each how competitive. It's very very early in his career. And I also against guys who have not just undefeated guys guys who earn defeated with ambition. Who approved to win do things after the after the pizza in as factors billion Smith? So I think he's had a real old fashioned career if you like an though. He's look shaky rocky at some stages the fact that always pulls through and having our winning mentality and know how to win at all costs is something. That's no it's a that's really important to go forward with the biggest tests ahead. I mean I'll he's a man of your heart really react pull because you like to provide a competitive match chops and it's the thing that people tend to shy away from a really all the candy man reoccupied freak me out completely because I tell you what it says in the beginning at his debut. I'm asking I said this is the model. Look at this guy. Looks incredible his go fund. Sausage story is a real fighter. Can even fight and the guys would be skeptical. Listen you know what treated as a social project. Yeah but then I realized he banged out most prolific cruiserweights in the UK. We're we're talking. Makovsky which took increase bill. Smith is this guy real deal. He looks like a real deal now. He pulled this mask. He freaked me out on the way. Now I mean he's radioman. I can seem progress into heavyweight. He can do some damage. I'm hoping the very quickly we'll see that. React boys the real deal and with his story his background he looks looks is a big commotion draw. I'm praying for him. He'll be well he's intend to be. I'm really looking forward to the next season for him on this. But we don't know Jack Massey though because the good habits it's about crowd you. Aba Champion was up a GP doing bits and pieces earlier in his career as well. And you know he's got Robert Raymond Nicole and Bobby rimmer still very very much parts of it although not tomorrow night so he had a good determined. Look about Simone either but now so easy I some good fights. He's the Guy Titan wrapped goal has had already had the limelight. If you will cut the bills you get news. Talk with the bills and stuff like that. And he's being seen so he's he's not on nothing new to him but for for many ways this is his step. Oh chance this is a chance to really make make make statement so if he can get that win and he is a good boxer I think think he does everything. Okay pretty good nothing outstanding. But if he can if he can get a lot of pressure quick down and I think he has a good chance but he has to have a real high work rate. I feel what will a caught up with him just after the way in. So let's let's see what do you have to say. Absolutely it was in conway ready to go now. We'll wait and everything's done so you know my time tomorrow and you were supposed to get this opportunity albeit against Lawrence MacAulay bucket okay. The start of July but hotter footsie pulled out with an injury house. Lying I mean picked up an injury sparring route from a bicep which is that. That was two weeks out of five between art for that fight in preparation went. Well Go Simba put me just put me in grades that for this fight. We've got expansion Panja train if it's well rounded experience similarities between the poor as well in terms of the preparation may be that both toll can keep it long on complex punch. Yeah definitely so we could say that away from obviously trading comfortably qualified. So that's the bunk so we read. It's go no good about ground. We've got crispell and Smith coming along to the to the fight tomorrow night and he's the perfect guy rarely boxer up for you beat him they can. Aba In the NBA Finals. In May be you may be slid under the radar A- till now. Yeah definitely good Guy Chris beam the NBA. Finals is controversial. Fight between Richard and Chris I watch the NFL four Kristen exit a little bit. But you know what is what have you made of of react Paul. Because he's he's come a long way short period of time the fire you know. Obviously he's been appoint he's got big bucks inability. I wouldn't say he's coming along he's coming on and you're from not famous Manchester. Count where you try with the Phoenix. Count Robert rimmer leading the corner pub. He's not going to be there. I don't think I think he's he's away at the moment. But it's it's it's the kind of place where I mean you're aware of the history Yeah definitely know James Some Grocery and obviously recount used Katrina Mcclain over the is. You know it's it's it's full of history and it's good to know there's been a lot of champions Kamala Kamala Jim. Okay look relaxed today. You made the weight okay. What what do I try in? Where'd you where'd you go? What's your your choice of food like? Like most boxers probably a non. Those are probably going on those few. Look Alan get some rest ready for tomorrow big night. Okay well thanks for talking to frontier. Search Okay so finished off by asking all of the people I spoke to. They go to after after way. They would like to go for something to eat. I mean I just. It's these kinds of things that I'm curious about. Arms because you you watch nip on the scales get off the wait for like twenty minutes and then and then after there to so to refill. What what was it for you interest when you're fighting? It's weird because I had almost like a like a pregnant woman. They would be. Maybe this all makes sense. A real for Tin Pairs. When I was making weight I was? Just oh just WANNA tim take just ten pairs all I wanted. I'm from Paul Family. Yeah we couldn't afford real T.. Tim Pears in some juice. Or whatever else all I wanted and then once I made the weight of the normal food so he did not want to add to that. It wasn't Mcdonald's over here back then it was it was big. It was like wimpy great but with the with the chain of time so I just go. He's one of those fast food or go to my local paper I'd have steak sizzler. Like three pound and chips it. There's a little too bad food. It's not what they are now. The healthy Suzhou Way. Then you'd have some bad food straight away and by the way when I obviously my first few fights you weigh in on the day championship. Pfizer made on the day. So way into twelve. And you'd be easy to and you'd be boxing at seven so I mean you always see now old when uh-huh old enough. I was saying this. Admit the youtube trying to stop you. Okay we'll check. You can drink metaphor to get off of the of the styles now. I always wanted to kind of what's what's in the Momma Shaming. It's all very scientifically calculate light to just kind of a ruse. You also have to be can't what it is now but back then we would make sense. was they do. No of course are not allowed to do what some back today but it was. You'd have a sports drink. Sugar you'd also drink a Jaffa cakes because the sugar and those David light so easily suggests quick fixes because if you remember watching your way to stab yourself you're not allowing yourself the food you should be having condition used to be like so if if you eat too much then especially in even if you were the day before then all night you know thinking about if I just have toilet incredible because you you got from some shrinks too much stuff done you've done your throat. There's not going to know just more than we've got to go you know. And and that's how we end epic for some time. So you have to be sensible. Will you ate well. Let's Nathan stuff now. It is thing I'm interested in though because it's it's it's all part of it. And is this kind of ritual. They go through. When when you watch for Surrey fight week he just see their faces change? See them at the press conference on Wednesday and they normal really then you see them on Thursday and they look different and then you see them on Friday they look different again. Then you see them on Saturday and Wednesday if not bigger. Look Luke. Afraid Vicki with now he's been interviewed photographed and he's ready to come us and he's not particularly Hungary margin Luther Glaziers I come find them because he is way way just getting himself stuff. I can imagine right now so I can find him on the moment. I mean everyone is different. I think I'm not fights so I never went through there but it looks painful rainfall sometimes by with new technology discipline and all this luck state tests and nutrition. I think is much easier than bar. As they're you know they they would different. I kinda breathe the fights or something. You know so sensible. There's a science behind in science has been explained to Kate so they know how to properly and I think that's why check weights important because no just to make sure kids out during the correctly it forces them because Abe was looking for a back door and everything waits is always the back though you you you you wanna run you you WANNA do your training but to me if you can if you could cheat them eight ways. I don't mean sheets in there for sure. Can you miss a day. Oh on nick chocolate by whatever. You'll do it soon. Get Away with it so I have in these check INS that. You can't really do that to know 'cause you will just go all you know what I shouldn't have today and then I'll just just trade either the next few days but if you have any way engineers you've got to you got to meet those checkpoints and I think that's I think that's fine if it might be more expensive for the ball to organize but I think it's very important safety. Regan also important is trainers professional. Trainers should be like amateur trainers because when amateur boxer you go on the gym and Change go get on the scales percent just head to get on the scales. No could you need a young boy you told so you get on the Scales and he go go match you know for me. It was like you forty one kilo should be so small I was like you know. WHO's auditioning for tiny tim in a Christmas festival? But yeah and they will be saying those until you submission kilos those days. Yeah I'm anxious to the system. I think it's always been kilos. Spasm professionals it was always policy. As Wellstone's recently loaned the difference. I mean now I can calculate in my head quickly but before I was really struggling. Shrugging stones and pounds kilos tastes from this without way. Sometimes when when it's when it's overseas and we had it in one of the Wilcox Super Series against around chick they announced it in kilos jumped off Freddie Roach said No. That's not quite right. Yeah if you already how the terrain command there was all sorts going off in United States it could get a bit confusing but you mentioned luther. The clay who's defending his WPRO global welterweight title against Freddie Kuwait. Luther is one of yours. Of course the hand you won that title Gay Steroid Morello back in September is away fighter and Wbo European it February. It your call. I was there for that fight as we again he was the he was boxing out the away corner. And that's that's what I really like about. This fight is you've got two kids. Who probably would have struggled to build up a following all the wing you took upon on Luther McKee? Amou- Buddy Arco Toco took upon on Freddie earlier in his career. And there's something quite heartening about seeing people who don't really have to underdogs off call. ECON sell tickets necessarily doing the business the hard way. This is the real boxing for me. This is the religiously incredible thing but guys giving up what unity they both underdogs Luth went against Morello Freddy went against Potty Gallagher incredible performances both have their opponents down and I was surprised personally with because frigate on box wreck looks like Adonis it says six hundred very strong very powerful guy and I saw him. He's by small and move really happy. I can see it seeing me. Because he's looks normal welterweight but the POLKA faces there. He's very comfortable. He was a librarian international captain. He knows his way around the rain and I can is he. He's very pre calculated going Ghanaian books in shrewdness. I can imagine sausage aloof. You know. They haven't arrived. Just watch out. I'm telling you these are the signs signs of pretend fear. He's very good so you're going to. You'll be there for the real real fight. It could be fight of the night for me. I've said the same thank you. I think I think on paper it is because I think I think has to do that. Klay houses I think he has to be aggressee. Has Try and push Cuba back. But if he goes in like all guns blazing you walk on the semi out susceptibility mechanical that but also also keep it as well now he makes fetish when he feels that he brought to the fore with squares himself up I think if luther coming forward with and catches so that's what's intriguing. You can see so much. Even even both pretty good fighters they both make too many mistakes and that might make it a good fight them. The mistakes will force maybe a bit of a wall with the bikes in the top. Fifteen with with. WBAI which is which is a serious achievement and global title so luther and what what what is global mean. It's a new title. I tell you what I know of stemmed from offending. Okay okay. I know what I'm saying. Is I mean look. It was a different suggestion But then someone go unhappy and they renamed the Global. I know the story about that originated from Australia. The title because the guy is the supervisor and the Director of Global Committee is Australia. His name is Danni Leigh and he. I mean it's all about European Johnson. I'm trying to say because European European books in union offended when anything around European. IBM BEING W WBO European. They never happy. There's an East West. I think the same reason not effectively. Be You yeah. So it's a very political so European books in Union is they as far as they consume. This is the only European championship the should be out there and suddenly Wbo Europe suddenly idea Europe so now he's a computation. Asian and behind the saints of movement by global is politically correct name. That doesn't offend anyone. I said so if you need to fight global because goes is a brilliant idea where freaky with wars. WBZ European champion. He's number thirteen of the WB. The moment Luther is number fourteen the winner. We'll progress to top ten years and they're off you e- FY names. If they correctly matched equal be right there in mandatory turnage very soon this. This is what you get from Siesta. This is what you get. You gotta work. It was the scam with the best. I said absolutely. He's with someone recently though because he's has gone shoulder. Chilly zero follicly-challenged. I thought that looks like a sexy move different Brazil. She she probably did the same thing myself wondering by the way yeah so. I'm wondering why Luther Klay was where he's disappeared. They'd say well he can exclusively reveal worries disappear too because I I caught up with a little bit earlier on the last time we saw you terrific display in Italy against Dario Murilo Kylo. I think key people a lot at night. Yeah I mean foments Every finance to give you know it was a good display good performance and now I'm ready to come into again. This is exactly the kind of platform that you want to be on. That's why you took that gamble really go to Yeah of course you US COUPLA Will fight to begin experienced This way contest yourself against good opponents of a prospects you know what I mean so you like say take a risk to get reward. So I'll see has been telling me about your For a while and so's looking forward to seeing you in Italy so just just tell people a little bit about yourself about about your background Background was really born in South Africa. Pinetown Dublin Moved to England two thousand one when I was like five or six didn't stop walks into our age of fifteen did about eleven images and then I went to uni stops then our violence. Lcs Through of course in obviously he smuggled into per game. It's been a good relationship. Ever percents guessing that WB global title yet. You're right in the top fifty with the with the WPRO it sits achievement. Yeah some achievement. I mean for me. I didn't really you have any idea what was going to go to achieve bought Lucky I had our guidance. And he's got me this fall and now winning not tie all puts me in the top fifty in wwl obviously a very online. Ob is just like it's a good kind of parkway to think about going because now you're in the ranking than you can think. Okay Lemme rise up the rankings and every now and then see if I can get scalp off deadlock Freddie. He's running thirteen fourteen. So it's another good step speaking of Friday. Just finally you'll stories are in a way similar. He was born in Liberia went to Germany. Now he's he's in the UK he had to take a fight in the away corner to taste gallagher earlier in the year slowest. That's one of the things I found really interesting about. This fight is that you've both children the same pattern away as bisque. Actually I only similar similar. He's African descent Lived in Germany. Boso box here actually worked for the southern area in English. toffee one those So and he's boxed away in books way away show so it's eerily similar so we're both hungry. Who Boyfriend or will it takes? What's needed to win? You know what we were willing to do you to get down okay. We'll speaking hungry. I will let you go. Best of luck. Thank you so Natalia. That's where he likes to go most boxes. These days generally find way down to non does if you go to the local non those after way and if you're a boxing found then you'll find the move down there probably in a slightly better than you would have found them if you came. It gives them a few minutes together. Yeah that's got a few chicken wings down and then you'll find the probably a bit happier than you did so. NC minutes before that so just looking ahead to another fight that saw on that so next week there was there was a kind of a semi decent linked to be made that rebel fighters eating too much struggling to make the white given that. He's it's just not done also done anyway. Jacobs again Chavez Friday in Phoenix and Jacob stepping up to super middleweight. which we we would really? After after boxing canal it had to happen. He somehow managed to make sixty but he looked too slow long cumbersome for for Canal. I think it's fair to say people are shot by says won't fascinates me early because he hasn't he had to fight the gates Camello. He was recruited for that because exceeds a big Mexican name and it was going to sell it would pay has really taken dobson richly since since such modernist beaten thousand twelve golf against canal. It really was like Jimmy between to someone else. He's tough he's tough yeah. Yeah uh-huh so even though we come from a privileged background his father was a millionaire. But it's hard he was into. Boxing is fired as preakness New Mexico. Isn't it. Let's be honest so we said everything his his own way. And and so it's hard to know to be. This is all to you for that. But he is actually turf but he's just eat boxes and he trains and he lives his life like like an like he's entitled and he's in the wrong spot for that so I can't see how he beat anyone at this level. I think it'd be quite that entertaining. Because take us to try and get rid of him and won't be able to but a path from that I just think I think Chavez option on his name alone and I think after that and Canal Alvarez fight but he didn't really make the epide- should have he doesn't deserve it because he has that name always going to get that opportunity. Well how boxed for for a long time and ninety two years over two years then took a fight two or three months ago in Mexico which I think was probably the first fight. He's maybe ever had that wasn't televised. I've always done on on TV now. He's back in this one that there were problems because he went submits about competition testing. But but he is clearly an available to fight and Alex like I remember good. Good life for Bob Aramon Chavez where he was saying that the show vices life is like a reality show and everybody wants to know what happens next. And that's I mean that's kind of how it's how it's been for him. He did win that. WBZ middleweight talking. Defended a few times so it's not achieve anything but you could see the marketing minds lines of come from. I fully agree with Barry as well. Because he's a real on the cheever lately and he's not interested anymore seems to lose passion but this says a great move by mushroom and eighty one to get fired because ultimately this a long term game. We've got column Smith with big names in that division or division above we call lingering around so we need the interim fight Daniel Jacobs progress or Chavez if this something Russian Russian same even stick shoots once a year so you never know Chavez possibly could do something and then we'll go big fight with massive Mexican community fighting where we'd the people I just mentioned so this is a Great Commotion Move And this is an answering fight for something. Better is a great platform commotion and Matraman Eighty particularly the hot saloon. This with his own. This new television deals to think three or four steps ahead is not just one final note. One day as you can imagine and Daniel Jacobs is lost with Matra my belief what what is the deal. I think I think I think I think he signed because he's original deal was about to USA on HBO so he's original channel deal pre existed. They the wilder decided at the start of the year. Because of the also the de la Hoya tweeted. I'm just going to go ahead and make the Camello gee-gee trilogy because no one else is stepping up at which point the bat phone ragged mushroom. HP We're not here and go straight on its side Jacobs and the fight was made basically two days later so he's had one fight with them as I understand the tree. USA fighter is heaping. Maneuver towards. Callum Smith is I think so it could make spent and it's a good fighters and all that unreal step up for Colin Smith to be honest. But you know especially after the last fight we a you know. Many people thought that he thinks maybe new lucky to get the win or even in a in a fight had what anyone expected to be. If that's what you want if you WANNA call it I thought he was lucky myself either way but they just happen to championship boxing. Every fight should be had is for the wall tile New People people nowadays complain when a champion is in a had satisfied. Defendant is strange defending. We'll tell if it's not hard it's not worth it because I mean you can blossom and all of that really early but I mean potentially on paper NBA. Every fight should be happy because the challenges should be would will championship worthy and should be worthy to be good enough to be a world champion potentially so I should make it a half like itself so but I think Jacobs and Smith is a good fights but I I just got feeding. That Jacobs might've Pete for me already. Yeah I think I. I think he's on declined. Yeah I think he looks. Paul can't seem get any better now. I think I think that's it peaked. Because he's been around longer than what you think and at this level on what you think is well so do you think about that pyramid. That was ages ago. Yeah he was not the long ago. Yeah yeah well this. I mean this. We'll get onto Liam Smith and just Kelly it is well. There's another Rica fight on that card for the WBZ flyweight title vacant title after it was vacated between Partners Christopher Resolve that house one. I'm I'm really looking forward. See with Smith and Kelly Kelly's our an interesting year as an eight. Because I think when you sign when when the Rio Olympian signed they come with a big fan fair and there was a lot of positivity this year there's been a bit we'll negatively towards towards. What's Kelly narcan quite work out? Whether I think it's Farrell not. I think probably I think I've come down on the side that I think it probably isn't. He didn't stop runoff skate earlier in the year but he wanted three rounds. But it's the case Ray Robinson for me because Robinson drew with caviar. Pretty Lincoln's three with Robinson he was winning the five three four rounds. Moving boxing really nicely then he just changed style held his feet more went back to the ropes and competing on the fire. Oh I couldn't work out. Why did I heard him say recently that he gassed debate in the second half which is a little bit of a worry? I thought it might have been that case of a winning winning this fight. But I don't want to win it like this. I want to stand in front of him and I want to show people that I can do what they don't think I can do a bit like to Bradley. Did with provoked revolt Nicole. Because you do you find the common sense he said well show you. I'll show you. I can do to fight a lot. Thank you tend to fight. I think no the the problem is nowadays. Everyone thinks if you're if you're champion then you should plaster everyone regardless until you get at that and I think you have to evaluate and but obviously fund the Olympics to British fighters I stood out and it was Brazzi and Kelly because the styles you think they could adapted well and I think other booth stoller sharing that wide stance in that left hand low or the other legion low softball stocks. It's really how tall had style to to come up against to work and power so I saw I feel my opinion. I if you don't have natural power that it's had to maintain because that wide stance I think my feet and is takes a lot of energy because you shouted at constantly so so Alexia fluency. So I think that you you end up calling boxing locker puncture but maybe not want to be more aggressive and hit no 'cause jab from your waist and you have to have good reflexes which luckily clearly has cause your hands low but had to reach what y'all doing especially with the hand so so bad if you're not a puncher and the guy we real zillions zillion like every Roberson. Then you start the feet nothing you've got to produce more pollen than if you haven't gone it then then you can come and stuck so I think it's had and also you tire and you see a Lotta the fighters tired because teh-tai it's so much power George Groves Tight on the streets so much. Paul is very similar. The ryen didn't apologize. Well might call the new exhibit this special talent so they'll adapt but I think that Robinson draw all is not a bad results. I'm with you as well. It's not a bad result just to summarize you both said something very valid George Katie has massive pressure festival. He's yes he's an Olympian. Secondly he's extremely emotional. He looks fantastic. Modification Asif expectation from British public plus ski train by a Fox of boxing other. Both who's got his own plans. He Sees Kelly. How you on the progress on the way A and his Bari Point? Though because he doesn't punch in the big sense of that word he could have done safety very gala Andrea Ward by then who needs the fighter who you put so much expectation on? Who's who save? You will lose fans ship so therefore he has to prove something that he's he's in the very very dark place in my opinion in because with Brunelleschi. He had to do some stupidity. Extra moves in Chanko risk just to convince the he's worthy I'm trying to say so. It's very difficult okay. So we don't know how good his deal. I don't know I'm dreading of the fight with David and I'm extremely excited archibald that fight because I do believe Kelly can jailed box by. We'll be joe showing off like it doesn't hurt me what you're doing to me the song because Oh gosh. David isn't It's usually fall to two United Kingdom. You start just as clear would you. Yeah right now I I will go a different from route now obviously pushed by no means if is Kelly camp beat him mm-hmm but it's it's it's a it's a half and also if you pete you is lively he's GonNa Knock you out and that's had the comeback. I think the biggest criticism because of his flashy style. So you use all go for looks good but also people tend to want to have people who have a flashy style or all rashy persona and finished not tossed aside just you know brush salesman you also ruffles feathers and some people like it. Some people don't so when when you don't look they don't look the sensational every fight or you get Georgia good no fringe level class. Spotlight Robinson. Then you get criticized massively there's always and that's what it is. If he was a hands higher was tucked. Did Conventional Football. If what's he gonNA draw with Barrera sort of umbrella then no people go. AWW AWW that's a bit of a shock be don't get berated free because his style he's good to great to watch very eventually block she'd good. Nothing's real flashlight. And it's just the world is still very explosive style. He's very pleasing on the I. What say by Kelly Asbury pointed out when you flash you have to finish Maceio at at the end of it you have to give us that guzman the ring? Well no you can't do the fourth way and then walk away. This is an uncomfortable situation. We should be either way a stance women on their head which you can do what you can't do any has done in the past so I think yet. Yeah and and who cares. You got your drawers. And he didn't get loose. That's the main thing. Then you can lose even come back for that and if he did lose it didn't matter you still come back now. I still think the guy s potential champion so that you I'm GonNa rush him and that's the problem. There's a need the Russian everywhere. Nowadays and the fight is going to be rushed as well they WANNA cut the call and they want to pick up gullible ty Olsson Europeans for the organizations and they and they pay the system loofah needs alone because he never had no amateur career. We're coming back to what about George Katie as a policy guy but again valley points about correctly so he has to be built very carefully and I think they knew relinquish the program it will come to place where he he needs. Some psychological help to eliminate certain demands every good looking great fights who wasn't Olympian House. Those demons inside who I communicated they. They all very complex. They get confused is much easier to be pizza. Beasley played very good football Jerusalem. What I'm saying is going to be from all came the folks it'd be as good as the new very intelligent great fighter? I'm saying imagine when people think like with Richard React. Poll I could. Because he'll do is good and he's more than fixed Johnson. What I'm saying? It's all about who looks. No no no no shortage. I say that with Kelly's really difficult because he's fighter I and stuff so he has to prove all the time he's a fighter he has to bring them to that like a deep deep waters level to show so he takes risks. In my opinion he gets hit too much automatically being looking more marketable so fast you. I'm got the the the talent which he has all all the toughness or whatever it takes to get to the top you're going to be exposed at some point. We hasn't hasn't been exposure. That's the people who has been exposed by the Roberson he hasn't. I think what has been maybe highlighted is. Maybe that's all star for. I think I don't think you should leave the booth Allen Busa fantastic. We'll get you to the top but I think it has to be some adjustments made from out from your looking in of course because he doesn't maybe half that Roll Poa alwa grows or or or or hey to maybe do that. I think one of the reasons why why I think they feel under pressure maybe to take that Venetian fight because he was supposed to fight last December. It didn't happen to all sorts of accusations from from leap opposite opposite campus. To why it didn't happen and they kind of accused of docking it basically. They've been accused of running from run. Okay do you people forget but these things come into it. Don't times Josh was A. Ill look like panda honest. He just I'm thinking this guy going to pass out. I'm telling you eagles much worse for Luke in Jordan Gill before notified. Jody give us really ill and I said make you. Don't look right. Kelly was an. I'm saying I'm saying when I spoke to Adam and other such a wise man. He doesn't care he will take off on Kennedy Avenue San Eakin dig the guy. So that's the best thing ever happened by. Now I know by looking Kelly's fighting Campos and they just. I banged out del Rio. It's happening. I know I always taught. Definitely it's happening in much of the ability to be also be like he can't make a mistake mistake a game by the box. Not just a punch Yankee Campbell. Oh can drunk notes to Liam Smith. Josh Kelley's Winston Campuses As you said leave Spitzer's go Garcia whose durable guy when the distance with with Martin Murray. I originally thought they were going to get somebody else in Garcia's coming quite on his is keeping busy Leonie's number five with the WPRO Mugabe Mongolia's moving up because he's fighting Spike O'Sullivan in the New Year will WBZ still listed. There is their champion Patrick Takara Peak Carlos Adama with recently. So what do you think will happen without. Because they've got a history of promoting their interim champion to full will champion. They will they do that or will they look for Takara to fight somebody else. For in which case monetary thing would be confident even though there are a couple Ah Smith I mean they can eat him until outfought Sheri's top around correct. Yeah golden boy golden boy to share. If it's golden boy. I think things could be happening because else. They share in the same platform Monday. But I think whole entire called in the United States. This Friday's interim card keep busy called with with the pragmatic thinking of the next season early with Jacobs against Chavis with Liam Smith keeping busy with Josh Kelley fighting compost close by that Banger of the small guy who got rid of Johnny Edwards. That is is. Is the one fireworks to watch for you. You saw a lot of the last few years. What do you call the number? We'll talk to you. Think I think yes. It is removed versus hall. And what you think of the Joe Gallagher Style and they do move the head. Molding people say it's pressure pressure pressure pressure on on you and there's lots of lots of pressure with feet no punches and come inside an old old and and and also where you away for the first four rounds you don't really care about the I four hundred and say where you don't where you don't but he showed in the William Second fight that he can adopt the box again like an ABC. Amish should be the box so I think he has more in his lock them up. You'll give them credit. Hey for what he is is really tough. I mean it's a tough spot and he's one of the toughest each one of those kids that you wouldn't want if you at the walls swear Lane Skinny Lane and neither one of you. Were going to budge. Sean against Carmelo Man. You wouldn't want to get you to be the opposite. You on the end. The porn will keep it will keep throwing punches so literally his arms fall off e will not stop. I thought determination. He has been. He's yes tallinn him but he has more more ability not the sometimes you see because he does want to go in that and put pressure on you destroy you and unblock stuff. Looks like he's taking shots and sometimes coming on the gloves because he also has his hands really high I think he should show linens fight anything anything stats and every now and again that he can be adoptable. He wasn't very good against Mongolia. That was my disappointment. I think he didn't in the fight against Saudi. Kim Dine alone is tough. Ethos is toughness would be better would be would be more effective than the power them and then he met next level of toughness himself. Yes I agree that a slow down you know. He took easily took the shots and he took really well. There was some thumping punches but never slow donny. Tell Him Donald so I think he learned from that. Some people don't slow downs. You have to be wanted. And he has so much experience. What does he thirty? Liam can be easily. I mean you might be thirty two. You know we still but I think he's I think is the way he's weird. We physically built. I think he has a few companies that finished. I think he has another title Shalt whether you can win it again I don't get it is but I think there's another we'll talk show blues. No forget kill broker sports. I'm Mary so and so the something's going on well when's culprit farting l.. I used to me. I think Brooke is fighting soon to be six happening. Yeah great grandkids with pretty much all the governing bodies. I was looking at the other day and with most of them now I was looking at the WPRO and you certainly slipped out of them because he just hasn't it just hasn't mongst Ext.. I mean we had him in on the podcast not that long ago and he was just kind of shrugging shoulder say look how unhappy Safai. I'll put it so said you did really WANNA fight Jesse Vargas Anita Camman Macau. I'll I'll take that fight a heartbeat. But I think he's at the position on his life. You know that that and his career that you only wants to fight and fight this. We have a lot of money for him. So am I not be available. That's the problem. The what he wants. So it's a case that I can if I don't get the fight that one that won't fight which is a great position to be. Let's be honest but also you know you you saw. Oh you wasted wasted a year. Maybe no evidence can be a not not doing anything. So Mike Garcia signing. I'm sure he stopped eating that that moment when he saw that he had some interesting thoughts in his head will be a really interesting though is from what you read. He signed a one fight. Dale figure I heard was about seven million Jesse fall gas the mooted opponents Jesse Buzzer says that pointing name. Yeah that's that's that's what I think. We've all gases a welterweight really but he seems to have decided that he will suffice superwelter. So I'm a bit surprised at Market Garcia wants to stay at welterweight because Spencer's brilliant. But you look at all about what you look like. Super Wealth is now down to welterweight impose a lot executive signings cash Faruk. Great sign is. He is absolutely fantastic. He really is like news. leaper Panton reportedly McGregor right. Yeah I'm in theory one before though he didn't win the lawsuit but I thought I I worked out and I thought you were in the final. I appointed up but it was a hard fight. I thought you one and a lot of people there thought you won. The judge didn't so it goes but East Berlin watch for each. It doesn't look strong. Be Super strongly any slips punches clever and I think that I think that's one of their best signings recently. I really do well. It's good it's always good to see to see a domestic fighter picked up because that are incredibly important and if I watch it talented like he is an an I can sell tickets hits. It's you've got to keep all if you're not spoiling avenue in particularly different parts off of the UK went been up to Scotland for a good while for for excluded from Scotland. Brennan News and Talk. Chanel is on those things in the Josh. Taylor is having a bit of resurgence. Just Eighty McGregor ah the Faruk as well. It's bubbling exact. Because I was thinking. Edward trainer ski against Ricky Burns. and be thinking is the reason to get Scotland. Need another another fight. I'm thinking in my head. The Guy Date Josh data is of course easily favorite. UK fights jace. Absolutely in love with Jim Taylor who will tell you know. I mean. He's incredible. Who Will he has everything you want to talk was that he would fight Lewis Richardson? But I think talk of allows cooled a little bit because it is easier to With the greatest of respect to Louis or anyone else really he is to fight the would be viewed as big easy. Then the bond sees Mikey Kgosi. He's just how about what are we talking about. That's what we're talking about the absolutely tremendous. This brings has caught national into what we were going to move onto which is two thousand and nine thousand dollars. A year Favorite moments by favorite favorite fighters. And just Josh Taylor is the one that sticks out for me in terms of might fight next and what you really want to happen is for Jose Ramirez the victim postal for them to make that Grand Slam unification in which would be. It'd be amazing to British fighter in in in one of those and I was asked for my dream this for next year. Actually just recently and I was saying VAT plus plus fury while during a rematch and Joshua fury as to what they would be extraordinary but back to two thousand nineteen. It's has been good. Yea He's been a really interesting year personal highlights of think you're always going to be weighted towards fights. You're actually at so so for me. The the to Joshua release fights. It's were extraordinarily for different reasons. But they were they remaining but I I did absolutely love that fight between program Taylor at the ot or thought that was incredible. Incredible fight you know to to brilliant fighters just gave us a pretty extraordinary spectacle what stands out for what's nuns used Isa fully agree. The number one top three fights la progress against Taylor was there ringside is incredible and just the the hardness shady termination. Asian no-one crumble in winter points. Incredible Josh Sailor incredibly surprised me. I just saw an absolute in next level now with Ramirez Ramirez super flights so I would find C. Taylor where previously I thought Romney was GONNA go through. After what I saw with. Programs and progresses ninety is incredible absolutely so oh probably in terms of real fight that was a highlight of two thousand nine hundred and which I wanna add something in two thousand eighteen with nineteen with incredible year. Now thinking about it going to happen in three hundred twenty eight just like landscape is crazy although Norway to you know it's not it's not if you know. Yeah that's what I'm saying what are you. It won't human we lose. We'll champions regain some uneven that now I think now people fighting each other not always just for the sake of fighting with us being a long time coming I feel just. It's almost pride coming back into the sport logo and it's always at the highest. That was always many but we had like one of the fights ringside was for me was the calmer I e Stephen World know them to show they didn't they say away from each other and it was not cut. It wasn't meant to be a war. It was just absolute Connie's blood everywhere. It was just unbelievable. It wasn't and Stephen Walk. We've never would. Steve was like me never going to be in a war and he was in it and he come through the other end. You know when you got the wind and I thought that the you're the guy actually one but you got the win and technical decisions and that was great but I was also I was also at the at the Taylor. I knew it was gonNA be great fight. I thought it could not be a great only work. That was that Scottish grit that Taylor has I thought might get him into trouble advice. I thought you have to be really disciplined and I think actually she that bit of component. Yeah I think that helped him. I think but if the program thought I could even buying program he thought that he would be more she felt Hebrew the capitol. Yeah Joe Josh Taylor. And he wasn't he just spent without this anyway. You WanNa. I'm pro be it was up to up to it Brad. It why I believe. The new guys sat like twenty rows back on the crowd but overall me. We didn't know what was winning. It's appropriate dot the wrong though. That's the thing with that myself with progress farther together and he goes to me the Kim fight I mean I could have sworn by because Kayaker in I'm really wanted to by the way. Yeah Yeah but that. That's what he said that that guy can fight an upset. Would you bring yours. He's beating myself. That's what you said to me but sometimes you to close the other two films and you think like some trains trains too closely. Their kids never do nothing wrong. And the other guys. Victory over critical all get caught is is a major issue so I think the judges in the world trainers in the corner for actually within the fight moves times and parents damn clue they. I mean they have the sports but when they're when you're when you're emotions involved how can they not be possible. They should be of course but I but I thought it was. Even everything was was has pulled so you never agree with any of the skull. I thought I was more one seventeen. Twelve or whatever you want. I was more to him but Romi didn't know who when they saw us coax felt like Taylor one. Maybe but I trying to let me see if you guys do that but it was a great occasion. I didn't didn't get the job thing was fantastic. Watch on TV but I think it was one of the things you have to be there. Yeah I mean that's generally the way he's the you know the super series final to win the best. I wasn't getting Chipper Jones if you not up close to it. WOOBOX CPA series delivered delivered again and and actually if they highlight night for me just because it was is just just so mental was marriage breeders against Kristof. Tiaa in the semi final and they claim recovery not in the Arena Rica. It was rammed out. Everybody going absolutely crazy and then the fight was just ridiculous. He put him down with an elbow then the rabbit heels all of a sudden as well well in the is actually they actually won their belief. You know yeah it's been this is GonNa go to lobby for that the WPRO convention. In Japan I basically agree to it but that was just one of those occasions where you just looking around thinking. This is insane a committee levels. Yeah Yeah it's just unfolding around you and it's a kind of thing that's basically impossible to explain to people in other sports. How that can it happen and then it okay? Corrected later but at the time this is what is happening and there were so many things about it that were that were wrong. But you just don't know log will be we call the gate. One thing you use. The British speaks his hand he had that hillocks animal again. That man going to drive through grew few cruiserweights in his time. So I thought soccer's final for the IBM I'd you believe bridge is GonNa go right through him. Fighting the fight he gave ewsweek man enough to say. Oh God you can't buy. He had really about hands really about every part work used to put them into the ice bucket. I still do say I still. I do think though I thought that. Even if he sees game losing always finds can up it one of those funds. I think that box walks not go to the next the next gate. You look at it out with twenty box tremendous but you could just use it almost work in June no making it work and making getting Wilcox Book I needed Bill Nichols Realms but you could see it and he does it all the time walks you don well over one hundred point. How game is hunter off? The thought he was unlucky consultation with Robinson also seen the fight back but he was going now. Today's Pitkin has much as I do than like I want to buy into win fell concert. Nick define. I thought he did enough to win a concert. I've watched the other day. Humphries Humphries game I know grinding down competitive carries it wasn't there was only one win but he really competitive. If shoney's will lose it goes straight to give you because he was supposed to make us overweight. W The heavyweight W at the end of May and it didn't and it didn't happen at the end not supposed to be able to call us Tom. And in the end default chazz witherspoon. It was supposed to be tyrone spong Kit the stall Tober it was. Oh so we still don't really know about hey may not aligned to subject we have over here this year as well or not. That's that's always going to be. A big highlight. Isn't it when you get someone like that. Come into this country because Joshua boxed outside the UK twice Tyson Fury. He's not boxed here. This is our stars the two mushroom cats in the UK this year and one was Taylor and the other one was Chango. Brilliant Campbell. Dr Issue Gloria Huntersville. That's beyond box if I didn't go to the real big job and I'm glad I went chango Campbell was fantastic in defeat support himself but also I. Is it like you and I had to go. Massively wanted to ingrate navy wrong. But it just wasn't enough like an and I think it was just was just. He's not a lightweight. Featherweight supervisor featherweight boxing lightly. Because he's too good for everyone else at feathered super-feather and it's almost unfair that he boxes his natural weight incredible so good. You must have been that good unique tolen- unique talent. But I wanted to come quickly to use it. I personally think we're he's hunter is so game and he gave private Kim nightmare his stopped by coli and he will be nightmare therefore anyone yet Joshua so rejoice yip use AAC outbox him and took him Johnson will try out grind them in their fight. You seek is huge. The moment did you see him when Monaco. He's pres massive and he feels very comfortable about hundred Tequila Rum. I think he will impose hundred two. Joe Commissioner. You can imagine so. He's a good like it can smell so you. twenty-five he looks shape six Six Sixteen one. Yeah oh seventeen. Clever what I'm saying so I think is going for. I mean I spoke to Alex critic and I said we're going to happen between us and wilder he goes. He will lay a pungent music. I'm telling you that now. And people saying new Balkan getting cold. You'll see what's going to happen. We'll be humiliation. I'm saying what about Tyson Fury. He goes us a different question. This is the only one sticks out that could spoil oil the fight potentially will be super negative but outside of those guys. I can't see any movie program for Team USA talk but that's only what like this. His ability in our estimates no question anywhere he is always always always deals with the strengthen the weight because he was one of the year not maybe defy the year but one of them for Shaw. Aw speaking of Tyson Fury Interesting News. Last few days of course that he split with Davison which I covered a card Germany with with bad mid-november and he was very about trade and all sorts of people trying to get him to sign up to use gloves. At you know these people with demanding. Mattis todd all over the place and yeah allows bit surprising and I know there was criticism after the light thought. I thought most sensible people agree that that wasn't I mean very solid i. It's quite a shock. Shock Inish in this era of those people change trainers more than anything anything else you know. And that's the way it is and but and also the fight. I think it was just fantastic. And he's shown his worth and he'll have a successful career with the fighters. I'm pretty sure all that. And it not only will champion. Come to him. You'll produce a champion of his own confident of that. 'CAUSE you've used be if you're wrong. You listen to him. He sensible and any any studies the game and breaks things. Don't quote effectively outfield. So I quite I would be comfortable if I as a kid with Ben. That's the best endorsement. You can have have you sir. I did my son boxed. I haven't moved back then. I think that's good enough for me but the training the fight makes the trainer. That's just the way it goes so I think it's good. Tyson was a good fighter before he had been a good fighter with Ben. And you're still be without pain. That's just the way that's just the reality give it a bamboo do great things. But I think so. I don't think it will affect Tyson at all. I hope not as long as you got as long as he has a strong longman. Just that's the thing you got to believe. You guys had a new. If talking to do his own thing then he'll go off off kilter again. That's the worry if you have a strong guy. He's doing what he's told to effect then Danny US you'll be fine. You'll be fine and I think I it's a qualified does happen. I expect him to win. But this one one common denominator bio Tyson theories behavior. And that's why it's surprising is almost erratic illogical unpredictability of what he does so so quitting boxing for few years or southern or changing the trainer who will vary Pauley with and seems to be the head amazing relationship and it was like exhaling feeling this is just arson fury. What he so exciting and very dangerous to sign? Because you never know what's going to happen you know tomorrow so this is incredible. This is the phenomenon. Let me know. Tyson fury and this is crazy with Ben Davidson. I thought they at least found that guy who they understand the camp response in the southern boom. He's not there but for the most important thing is that he fights walder facet yet and we wanted to win. And I'm all for fans wanted to win and then whoever wins to win a prize Joshua that's for you WanNa see if it happens knows but that's what you want to see happen to think well the window for Joshua while the spirit fury I saw it will. When is that? When is a schedule? Actually I know people build the tickets raises twenty seconds but in the venue if they so that's that's the way they play things plan so far ahead because our member Walter announcing the fight against all tees the week of the Aj Ruiz fight and then it didn't really get rubber-stamped until tonight Spence Portal which was September twenty eight so this seems to be what happens now is that things get kind of could out there and everybody but he seems it's happening but they're nothing seems to be really formerly comma of interesting thing because it's almost like you know because you like you guys definitely will pay you and then okay thinking they should get the money together so this is this is the kind of thing you you know. So I think is in Vegas because I know people booked tickets and they kind of booking hopefully will be. I'll call them much. It being new anywhere else the site fever be a nephew. Think that who live. The massively anticipated the wage at white over the year. I mean because of Tyson fury and you never know hit the loads of temptations with bubble. UW or whatever it is. So I personally don't know how I feel about about overall Bahrain's you said this is heavily anticipated. I can't wait for it. And this great great fight to start off the ocean for everybody so great staff the staff at the start of the year the momentum milk format and then all of Josh should be looking to get back in Josh Taylor Who hit an all the others? No it's just so much going on but I think start off with that big fight because that'd be a good fighter. Watch yeah I think with the with the floor running. I mean Walter how the other another good year knocked out Brazil then Dr Ortiz and he just keeps August thing a an octave above the quantitative the discussion around is his his skills or technical skills. Lack there of the people like two points out with the single most valuable skill in all boxing because it's skill skill all otherwise. Everybody would do it. The most and the heavyweight division east got that down to a team. So it's very well for people to out books for five rounds or six six rather get your breasting the finishing type. That's halfway through the fight and it's not like it's something new from that's that's that's what he does but I with with a learned from the fury fights because he boxed for like a guy with an arrogance of a punch and why not that. Catchy and you catch it got got up so you you learn from an thought. I couldn't pull the trigger quicker. I feel so. Don't wait too long. Because what if all of a sudden they do hold donald grab meal runaway or whatever they do and then you lose so you know Muslim Alvin best weapon another using it. It's just the strangest thing and then you got this thing here in in your right hand and you don't want to use it until the very last minute until the guys know mcevoy whatever. What do you think massive danger? The second time around. I do believe the man. I don't know if I would fonsi wilder this on I dunno what Eric Fury again. I think that would be. We'll stop faster then again even if his lessons but he didn't I think east should should stop fascinating. Food believed in confidence. But so that makes it a high five thirty but I have a feed enough. You'll be better because you've had a wakeup Kohl. And his last fight with ready all he was awful. Maybe now motivated but either way comic dot excuse no fight should meet ask you about motivated activated. Who Don't get into Greenland? That's to be honest. One hundred percent different name on wall to wall to flat world talking. What about say with any great with Eddy? Great deal with this which is perfect because you wanna be you what fights while you're not really sure. WHOA WHOA WHOA? What's going to happen? That's what we're in this for. And that's why we like it when people make those kinds of matches so gentlemen thanks very much company. This is great fun. Merry Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas and Christmas seasons beatings at all of the Christmas. That's that's all Saturday night. Going to actually actually a couple of bucks. Donald thought it'd be good gas giants absolutely. Everybody have a good Christmas and hub. The boxing Thursday night Friday night Friday nights card starts midnight on sky sports main event. And of course the bill at the at Cowpokes as well on Saturday with with d'Ivoire top as we just mentioned selects listening everyone if you could get onto our jeans and subscribe and give us a rate that would be great. I will catch you again next time. Lust wish Christmas. Wish to everyone my new moto less ex- expectations more action. Thank you

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Boxing Coronavirus In-Depth

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

57:56 min | 6 months ago

Boxing Coronavirus In-Depth

"Hi This is David Diamante. And you're listening to the toe to toe podcast. Podcast hello and welcome to forty different types of Typo cost today It's going to be very raw and very reactionary because we are actually down at the Repton boxing club here in east London with the fighters for the golden contract and the news has just broken that unfortunately the show is off and every boxing event in the UK is off obviously because of covert nineteen in krona virus. And it's disappointing news but perhaps the right news in the circumstances and say that. I'm joined by Andy Clock Berry Jones and Jose personal. I'll come to you guys shortly but we'll go straight to the flight to the man who's probably lost the most out boulevard today Jose your immediate reaction. The fight doesn't go ahead to semifinals. Don't go ahead. I'm absolutely devastated. That's going ahead book in SWAT SAFE FOR THE FOR THE WORLD. Isn't it for the country is very mature attitude considering with professional boxes? If you don't fight you don't get paid. You have lost our notes postponement but it's an indefinite postponement. We don't know when we're going to be back and you've see trained very very hard but to you. None of that really matters. It's about getting home to your family here. We'll have adopted sixty year old. And my mom sixties well on this viruses is worth for all the people in his younger people. So I wouldn't want to be the cause of them being so in my opinion it's the best of the competition. Nocona head and don't get me wrong I would look to fight on fitting. I'm ready to fight. Maybe if it was behind closed doors it will be good book. I the government's not letting their paramedics in that people be boxing. Shows could be out helping people so I totally understand. His is devastating. Told him on this week is it's changed our not just a day but our boy our point this week over the weekend. Do Start to think as strong chance at this isn't going to happen. I woke up this morning and put the news on the Lebron national and then across a few channels. I was watching the American news and Kentucky. Dhabi's often NASCAR is often the baseball's also there were millions and millions of pounds. This competition is not on that scale so I said if the consular not all the will the Olympic qualifies cancelled. So I'm just thinking if they had cancelled this is gonNA be cancelled as well or that's linked to anti clock. You've been down at the Olympic qualifiers this week. speak full. This here is Scott. Needless to say health is first and people got stay. Safe doesn't necessarily dumping disappointment and with the news is happening. No it was it was it was coming by. Wasn't it? I think last week at the end the last week it was last Friday really whenever thing last Thursday night when everything really began to to take her attorney in the situation began to to spiral an hour to the drawer on Friday and then they had three days of competition and not draw will remain in the three days of competition will stand the results will stand socal Alafaya Petema girl qualified last night. A flyweight and featherweight. So that's done. That's happened massive congratulate which is brilliant which is brilliant. Because they didn't know they did know the staff did tell them. The competition would be suspended as of last night after their session. I think they probably would have wondered whether they should tell them will not. It's just another thing in that had but I think the theory was that they would have found out anyway they needed to get and hopefully they'll reconvene competition in the not too distant future and they'll pick up where they left off but but what it was was. was logistics. There wasn't a an outbreak amongst athletes. Will the support staff? It was just the fact that you've got people not just all over your at that. With the officials from all over the world did with. Boorda's closing at flight stopping Darren a position where a lot of them just would not have been able to get home and so it was it was unsustainable so they gotta try finish that won the America's world which was G for Argentina. After this that go to trial get that done. At some point the the Asian qualifies of a finished with the African ones still quite a lot to to fit in. But but the the three-day through Brendan Irvan qualified for all until last night. So three days of how founded golden go well in competition was was was great. It was it was the boxes at Bryn place for it. The Standard was as good as it always is but I think that's almost three days to be honest. Barry joins US If you're like me already on a couple of days in without live sport how to survive Harry is out. I watched Badminton Squash. I watch reruns. It's a great time to watch fights radium. We can freely give on your history. Yeah you fall in love with this all over again. But it's frustrating. Listen Common Sense and health and safety should prevail over everything of course but let's put that to one side for a second just sports. I don't know where to put this. Because at the professionals it puts everything back. These storms have to reschedule. There's other fight Saturday in the line. So then everything goes back on. The things get moved around is no. We'll take priority over. Watts is a big difference between postponing and canceling flights. Isn't it was? It is but no pook spoon in with no idea when you're GONNA put it back on again this for bigger fights in this tournament for these but Joshua's fight for instance that gets put. When does that go on? It's not doing go ahead. Say this if this drags on for that long. But he's a multimillionaire. He can survive financially though. I don't know about Jose but some of the other guys as well. You know they need. This is telling us a life changing tournament for these guys need not just to their career but financially also give some of them are real step up and and that's a worry and also is on the Olympics. What happens to be a tournament? They may the final qualify impasse in Paris Moscow. Well that's not gonna it's not GonNa happen because that light though because I remember the final qualify before Ray I was Venezuela and our went and that was started July so they could do that light but wallet say is more likely to finish these two continentals extra places that were going to be lots of Paris. They'll just figure out who on a countback if you like. Who's next in line in the Continental Championships? And do it that way. I don't see how else I can't do. I see they're Gonna. They're GONNA go wrong. Don't do who lost in places. Yeah exactly a performance to previous tournaments and stuff like that which is going to be again the whole thing. The whole system changed for corruption corruption based for the Olympic boxing. But this is going to be questions asked again. Who GETS A place? If they don't win as they are meant to be in the quality of the wind will get to the final. Got A place in. No people are going to have to be given places forgetting to call a finals. But that doesn't equate defense. I don't think in in the whole scheme of things so it's it's a massive problem for the for the sports immediately above over time because the Olympics looming it's a problem and though for the real put Mahia for the professional boxing for this fantastic. That was going to go on Friday. No it's a staff and a real Babylon for these kids chain. So sorry kids these these men. We've trained so odd though Pete and tape it down for this particular date now. The left in limbo. So what other ones too much bought? How now will your life take shape a you okay? Without the money you would have been paid for this. If you've got family that we're relying on you. Are you okay now if you do have to sell Soleil or if you do have to just poured your career you're okay financially in got enough stability there. I've got good family beyond me for obviously the money off of this fight was was good money and it does make a big difference will be poor and alive than rich and dead and the thing is is is your health is wealth and you know the money. Obviously was was brilliant. It is what it is. It's all I can say about the situation. Yeah yeah well I think the big message from everybody here is stay safe. don't take risks and how long this is GonNa last. I've everyone comes for while we've got you here before we let you go because we do want to let you go because We'll see one raging hot Jim. is absolutely boy is simply but he's really cost audio if you could see us now. He's just starting to get twenty seven degrees the forest throw. I wish I'd want us to teach a couple of things that happened recently with people that you know very well. Scott quick is retired you spent years and years with him in in Gallaghers Gym. Sad surprise. What was your reaction to that? I sit him training. All training come a cinema training on. It was the right decision to to retire. Scott's a great friend of mine I used to think he was absolutely brilliant boxer and it didn't have in skill in May with will and I just seen. He's he's lost. He's lost than he's lost training. Camp just wasn't what it used to be He used to come to the end of eastbound sessions. I must be how we don't unusually. I would say brilliant Scott. That was absolutely brilliant. He was coming to me at the end of these sponsor Sessions and asking me how we doing. I was lost for words because I'm usually the Truffaut Guy in the gym and I'll tell people straight 'cause that's what we want to hear. If they WANNA hear the truth they come straight to me and I was finding myself just one minute. I'm just GONNA precipitate. I'd I'd I'd avoid answering the question so I'm happy. He's retired now. The Scott Quick a few year ago on John Carroll. I don't think I would have been a competitive fight. But John Carroll is the fight renew P- is on the down on the slide. So it's the right decision to retire. Now we can delve into that. Goes just one more tossing fury I mean surely these success story so far this year a guessing. You're not surprised at the result. But just how proud of him where you at the time and just just explained to us what. How about the whole situation? Well I fight with Wilder W WE SHOULD YOU FAMILY FIRST COUSIN FIRST COUSIN? Tyson's yeah so I never went to that which now I'm I'm a bit sick about because I was getting myself prepared and ready for this but for him to go and do what. He's done the second time we beat. Klitschko own gave him credit. Re- much the first light with wilder. I fought the robbed him of the Fairytale story which was the greatest comeback of all time. But they never the only added to it because nobody expected him to come out and knockout wilder in. Oh Two two DIFF- bill? The biggest possibly the best boxing story ever to be told no one could come and writers rocky couldn't write the rocky stories wasn't like this and didn't tell you what he was going to do. He said Jay said I'm going to go knock him out. He said I'm going to bully him if he could eat up book. Yes yes because I I one of the people in the world who actually knows. How could he is how talented he is still to this day? People hasn't seen how good Tyson can really really be. That was six weeks training with his new trainer from being a slippery side. Slighty allusive boxer what he always had in the tank which Ben Davis shopping upon to becoming the Cronk knockout style upright punching heavy. Get you out with their with six weeks margin and over six weeks margin. Nova eight month how he's GonNa Perfect style. Tyson is an unbelievable human being when it comes to boxing walks in relationship like review. Did you grow up to in gyms? Did you see him when he was coming at the same time? Did you spend time with him? When you buy matches see. I started you Tyson I I I'm Fi- eleven with him. Being so big there was no point him being in the gym eleven. You Know James. Up and down but we went to. We went to many different image gyms around around Manchester. The one thing that we did go together was Egan stay. Vegans while Jimmy Johns Jim and he when the only APA on Steve say this is this is heavy weight world champion so yet. We spent a lot of time as amateurs together as professionals. We went our own way. You Know Tyson turned professional a few year before me because he was more mature than me. At the time I was I was eighteen. Nineteen I was very skinny and very weak. I needed to mature so As a professional he when he's on wait I went my own way and we are. We are now and just let you go John Theory is he scary in real life. If a family member as we will think he is he's even more scary than you could ever touching even putting on schedule and. I'm glad that you said that you know it's not an actress definitely. Not He's a lovely man but then again. So is the pit bull. What a great line to leave on. Thank you so much for staying around after the bad news and I hope that You you mentioned you family will stay safe and we'll see you in a few months time for the conclusion of golden contracts. Thank you so. Jose ever has left us and embarrassed to hear. I think berries start was such a mature attitude from Jose. Burton who are no his elderly family. And that is these number one thing there but if ought to try and for twelve weeks and wasn't going to get paid and this all this uncertainty and I was blaming something you can't physically see the corona virus. That's I wanNA smash things up. Bay was measured their tip. My to feel sick. Gobi stoves a jealous maturity. Because I'm soaking. I look in the work place for that new partners in boxing. What's the matter with him but I don't think he's quite practicable you trained for it but it's not going to happen and I think in in boxing. There's so many things that happen outside. Your control is a such a frustration. Sport from the image to the professionals. You tune up and the fight up at Amazon and and he doesn't. Someone doesn't make the weight as professional these things can happen. All the bold moves mingled. Something happens you. I've gone to a fight and has gone from a from ten to six and yet I in the ring and it's gone from an eight to six and you're arguing you WANNA to get paid for eight rounds in and you can see some of the caller gory just shaking the. Hey go and not but so. It's still a tough issue. Disappointment in many ways so I just think he's taken out on bowl. Chain is what it is and move on on on fight. Again we did speedily conroy. Sports news is a little bit different because he has pulled Tom and he's given up to train for this tournament. Lose out on Hummus. Like Tusa pay hasn't been paid for his day job hasn't been paid from the boxing so it is an unforgiving mistress. Boxing is not as yeah. They said nothing a thing with the situation at the Bauman. Eight very much depends on your personal circumstances as to how Zan you can be about it and as got a really close knit family around. And he's got that support network and maybe if he needs it. He's got a bit of a financial safety net. Thera don't know that that starts just to guess but some people may have other people won't how other people will have no backup. No Safety Net and not getting paid for fight will be an extremely serious issue. I'm up self employed myself as his as his Barry. I'm okay because I do have that safety for my parents. I know plenty of people who don't and NC will three mortgage payments time or or. What have you? They're going to be in trouble though. Be loads of boxes in that in that category so I do think the how mature if you like. You're able to be about it kind of dictated to you by your bio circumstances because a well everybody's worried because of the the health situation but also the will does scape tuning in lots of other ways and that's what people will be looking at that we thinking. Okay we'll look at a box now for who knows how long my work's going down the pipe as well what am I going today And this lattes are they gonna try see bleak picture. But that's all Wilkes Philip being posed the. We're hoping not not in a month two months whatever it is formed wherever it may be that we go back to work so we're GONNA be paying ketchup. Print the ambulance get that but some people losing their jobs. Isn't it non? Excuse but it's a this thing is some companies are folded left my mind. Mrs WIGGs aversion. They've said you got to do so. Many many on page on its own can do it. All in one hit pretty no so as a family. We're struggling by the WAY DONALD ASKING FOR DONATIONS AND ANYTHING. But you can find me on you exactly chocolate. Somebody knows someone come round to permanency and how rhapsody balls you could get paid to wrap some balls Barry Jones. Can you could see. I'm well this isn't a Navarre's punk cost so let's just move on to some of the other things. Were up there. I think to us we're GONNA talk about quick take nothing away from how good John Carroll was as much as we're going to talk about how how quick look to have very little less than that shouldn't take away what Jonah Code Ilmenite. Which was a sensational brilliant boxing masterclass? It was just alarming. How it was like Scott. Quick have been unplugged at the means in a house is set there was. It seemed to be something that was fairly obvious in the gym. It wasn't something crept up on something that I had picked up on the gym. Which which is no no. I wouldn't say rare but usually they look good in the gym and you find out on the fight. Sometimes been you know you created ended. So many they look at in James because they saw repetitive stuff and then seven. Just just can't get that exit a spot for fight night obviously with the guy coming in there with different intensity than with aspiring sessions. And then then all your weaknesses frailties of the you didn't have before they get exposed and fighting that but what you said at the beginning. General cattle box excellent. And what what he had done is I think you mentioned in the comedy. Good from the fights before five. Yeah he did and I think because he knew just to hold his feet enough to get a bit more. Push on the punches. Where in the past? He was always been busy busy busy but never really hold his and he rally looks physically strong but then teamed power but the even though he didn't add any other politic trouble creek to knock him out but it was enough to stop bullying and that was important and also. The wait was a big factor. Way I think Super Bantam. Craig was such an imposing character but a super featherweight. Naw so much when you dine out on your strength and onion intimidation and and then you go. Wait and then not doesn't work then. You learn your boxing skills and he has got boxing skills. But he's not known as a boxer or skills with really is beautiful some other fighters so I think it added today and know the war's already had I think it all just took its toll book. Cattle is fantastic and eating. I feel sorry for him. He didn't get the credit. Because everyone's just thought Craig and the demise earthquake and when you retire at a post for interview that's such a massive thing. It's like you look back on that career over them forward for joining us just waiting to put it on record that taking nothing away from the most alarming thing. Jose births and said that to get away from telling the truth to Scott Quick. He brushed his teeth in the gym. Did you ever brush your teeth sparring? We never had a sink a to go back to the. Jim used to show the through somebody in the Charlotte in the boxing gym. Now we had one in damage Jim later on but the first time we have two proper showers and toilets and Jim was moved to London in two thousand one hundred Jim and adds up to showers. This is can believable but so no but I understand what he's trying to say he's honest to everyone but when and you haven't got it anymore I'll tell you what if someone asked you often. Do you think one you don't mind telling them the barking. That's different if you've been fought yourself you can but it's Nice I think no I think honesty in the end if they'll thank you but it'd be thankful for it. They might actually use you as the summit to generate a tip throw their anger at. That's fine some people need that but no I think you need to be some of these beyond issue in this great or you were the best or you did lose Shaimaa if you knew you could do better then. You just know you on. If you know you couldn't do better. You Pete them what can you do or you can do is your best. I think that'd be really odd situation to bid where he would have. He would've been realizing it during the campaign. But then you're hoping on the night it'll be differently. Addressed the muscle memory will kick in. And you'll take it up notch by the sound of what you say. You hate of a city at the store but tweet rows just knowing haven't got as God or a member Matt Saints Might Clean. The what he thought after Fawzi Bride rose he knew after three or four rows. Definitely my final fight is not there is well truly gone. I just WanNa get through this woman Wade. He said he was done after. Throw full rounds. And that's what he was in his head and water place to have that realization. That you will. You'll see sausage. Miguel cotto I think. I think it was the canal and I think it was in the chain dramatic wife saw it was translated. Yeah that's enough. And he and he was crying and he was an by the way man has got millions who soon millions. We should have still have millions. Hopefully and he's had this all I know and the same so you know it it. It doesn't find a person but you think it does because that's all you have done in your life when you know you guys you university and you've trained to do your jobs you do as a box you've done it you've trained actually doing it as you training. So you being a boxer known barry the boxer from ten years of age and they still is people still call me champ. No I think as I look like the child from the film champ but maybe style I don't know what it is but either way it's known that the person I am. It's me Pat Toomey so when you can't do that anymore what you do so you long crosses you yourself you still. You still have it. You still positive then. It's the saddest. Saddest Pat the sport when it's time to go but he on the flip side of that when you've achieved everything that you wanted to achieve more and you gave every drop of blood and sweaty. Could which quick did then you retired a pace and I think he is one of those. That don't think seem again. You won't see him again but he won't be a piece you will in the end. You look back and think about how I had but right now you'll be lost for a while and that's just the truth. Yeah and it happened to look cows aggie. What a career. He had a leg also half of his career but he if we tell you that the right time of new it's time to go even then but then he was even one. We're GONNA do me one of the things about being an athlete. Is that you pete combs. What you're young an inescapable. This no does no way around that particular such a physical sport and although it sounds a bit a bit grim when you when you finish whether it's boxing football cricket whatever it is those highs you felt as an athlete you will never replicate that ever again in your life you just have to. Well you know you just you have to find a way of accepting that without gets a literally getting depressed about it and that must be really really hard you you you can never ever let go you can't you can't I got. I'm at peace with myself but it took a I was twenty five hundred my last fight so I I saw a Finnish while I was still really active and young enough to to to fight and put my time was done and put it was hats and also by the way if not all ninety percent boxes more than retire we know many of them. I know I have decent. Pay My last fight but the last couple of years the couple of creating what to do a move to London. That's the best place to go when you want to spend some money and so you know I had no money to get a job and then you have to know just you out again and be a little bit more humble with yourself and some are being really real high profile an avenue the Penny. They've spent all the money. Then you've got to go back to a normal life nuts and the transition. That's why you get a lot of different routes with drink and whatever depression. Could you like private somebody one day in the entire two? It's a real problem. It's really hard because there's no after remarks in. That's the thing we're tired. I never heard from anybody. I don't hold the coach for anybody but I didn't hear from the boxing promoters. Anyone nobody at all. It's just I left and I was just left alone which I got family. I'm not a baby move on because that's what happens in some of these people struggle one of the people that did struggle. That's not free retirement but through community. She's with mental. He's Tyson fury. No I know that Jose buttons I first cousin of Tyson fury really I wish we could have done a bit more on the Jose. Burt and toss a few growing up John. J-o-h-n fury is a scary man barriers. Other man he does get found me but it was great. What you said that I think we will surprise about how tossing fury one less your in. Tyson Fury's inner circle and family where it comes as no surprise at all that he was capable of doing that. I won't surprise you one and I should say no agreement. Act The way you want the way the way random if he was telling you that the day before. I'm going to go right at this guy. Who's WHO's the biggest prints on the planet right now. Poem for Paul and Right. Now I'M GONNA go right back. We're going to put him on the back for. I'm going to beat him up. You just go when you have the ability to dance around and and spin on his head you just go hang on just Muslim out of you behave itself. You'd want to slap him across the face. Wake up do you good at answer all Macomb? It like you did in the first fight. I think there's enough just more. Just don't donate stuff that's all. It was the tax is the perfect tactics really and the thought it was a bluff. Obviously there was evidence for it with the change of training team in the way that cronk fights is generally a four years but I thought it was a bluff. I thought they were putting it out there at these very convincing when it comes to the chat ties get people's heads with do what they say they go would come out and say what he's always done because what he had always had always worked he just didn't get the decision against the wall but most of us agree that he should have so you know why if it's not broke. Why fix it? But that's that's what was so bold and brilliant about it was that he thought okay. That's what happened on the cards. The first time of taking a chance again. Will you know the change trainers? We worry that that they might get their tactics confused that they have him doing what he what he did. Then naturally want to go back to be to get caught in. No Man's Arteta did. Yeah the full would be why they wouldn't do it. Because when someone's books worldwide for such a long time I did see how you can use that dot quickly but that shows just how good he is a now you look at him and you just think he is the complete package. You could do everything with. I wasn't Lucky. Decided to get on the front against someone who was taking decided to get on the front for against the except biggest puncher in boxing. Who who by the way is knocked enough people? When who've come at him really has you know. Who's the Guy Pushing you back looking? Knock Jen people of attacked him. And he's knocked them all coming forward. So it was the adaptability touch fury is right now stands above everyone else. One of the people in that mix is Alexander. You sick and if there is any question Marcos Eq it's How does the undisputed cruiserweight champion of the world? Fair heavyweight fights judge that against which was late notice. Replacement Chazz Witherspoon He. Now what's oral? We did the pressure on. Friday was good fund presser to of undoubtedly the biggest characters in boxing and Derek jeter and Alexandru music mix reaction online. Mostly positives got pelted from some people will like how many times you GonNa will out your spot if if you're being truthful other when you use the word gatekeeper over the benchmark heavyweight if he's going to do it is against a fired up. Ruthless motivated unpredictable coaches or unpredictable festival. That's as a person and his boxing. Boxing career and people are gonNA keep the most well until he said he's not supposed losses. There's very few people that would top the against the undisputed cruiserweight champion. So I doubt Zora read that it happens. Only the heavy division can you? Can you have nine offices? Still be a massive huge fights but that's fine and he proved his value for money. I still think that for music. As good as he is. And he's brilliant blocks a lot of shelter with his arms. This four since then is mainly box more than than Lama. Chango does the OSCE that always tied together. And what about that with the bigger? That is they might actually just punch ads but I think which is all the loops punches. And the way he fights. I think it's a fight really. That can look fantastic. I really do. It's the unpredictability factor. That makes it unpredictable. Yeah you're right because you do not know which Derek JETER'S GONNA turn up and I've seen some people digging him out over there get Cavallo in Monaco which was a real low point but if there was a scenario which he was going to underperform that was it yes because as someone who's not a big name in books environment behind closed doors close. Does he needs. He needs the Jason Piquet together to get himself up for and he's pulled out bigwig when he's when he's needed to. The wind was absolutely massive. If it'll stop fight and he was supposed to really that that he probably was done but he won. I just in the most spectacular fashion and spill cut. You could argue. After the event is people like to that Spilka lucky enough. An awful lot last disabled good win and he will he will bring to the promotion and they will bring everything he's got on the night. I tend to agree Barry. The adults use it having too many problems with him as for him heavywight a think he hits hard enough to be flat. Not Be a problem but it's whether he can take it helping in the other direction. I wonder about because we don't have any evidence. Flat yet was a great spectacle though when somebody? I don't believe Derek Bluffing. When he says my approach is like the kitchen sink job. Which is everything within reason? I'm GONNA throw yet. Okay that brings with it immeasurable danger because probably going to get hit with the pumps. That's not going to see because he's to concentrate on his own offense bought from spectacle point of view. You do have to say that the ball and the matador can be quite good fun at heavyweight watching somebody just going as I say. Kitchen sink job if people selling it. I'm just saying that's might as well show me are quite interesting to see what happens. Allegation against a heavyweight. Traditional Henry is not so light on his feet that makes great fight like Italiam good boxer with the two fantastic fuss because it stand in front of him move it but they haven't got the the the movement around the tag the pivot that music has. I think I think it's going to be a struggle for Zora to find the target when he's swinging lunatic. It's exactly what you said. How can you hit? It's all equal and get paid for. You'll get paid back for those mistakes and that's Today on whether he asked I roll. Ko Power what does he makes you work hard so he makes you broke out when you don't WanNa buy exhausted ballot do but never panicked like you knew this was going to happen. And better like really well. And they're all encouraging signs that he just can compete and again a high level. Then all of a sudden then usually pussyfoot on mccaskey's made you work. Had Neil multi than you want to be and then he starts. When you're just a little bit you know you've just sharpness a yeah. I thought that's that's something that's always really impressed about to miss that round by rounds he he just romps it up bit by bit and it gets to the point where as you say You work so hard mentally physically to to stay with him and keep him off the that soon enough fuel you haven't really got you haven't got married but she left. We were talking about this last week. Man They in our member took it to white Rudy. Wants to play baseball owner when they were really at the height about maybe ten years ago when they lost a couple of Champions League finals and he said the thing that people don't understand about playing against them is that they make he works so hard to get the ball back when you've got a kid and and that kind of thing isn't it. It's not it's not kind of thing he just makes you work so so hard. Value was great too great to great to a great and then locked out. And that's not ring generalship not been able to and it's not always just making it. I fight fast. You could train like a lunatic. You slow go fight the down. Who's five hundred miles now? If you could slow down it doesn't have gone running with someone who slow it still with you for a long distance so new slower than you and it drains you. You can say Barry. I'm not mandate those little run. I just I just wanted. I wanted you to get that. Could you run you run in the mornings an might might change following the cat? Home for sprints and stuff so she would get into court model but those call half a mile she do with me but the hottest wins the slow right down. I know my rhythm rhythm and then you breathing changes and drained energy and I think that's what does bring generalship. You'll you'll make you work. Had then he then he slows down. And but making you miss and you don't know where you ask you can regulate your breathing and then you know esteem. And then he picks you a Palm Beach we all the kings of the heavyweight division in the UK because the belt say hey how would you say ucf as against by Tyson Fury? I answered your early stages oversee I think. Gates fury is is just an unbelievable fight. Because you've got to phenomenally. Skillful fighters there who you would have to say technique. W- is an in that regard. You gotta put them both above Anthony. Joshua like books you go it longer than he has in that dot counts and I would pick who seek to beat Joshua probably Currently I would pick fury to beat Joshua. Think you'd you'd have to start as favourite considering what's happening in recent times. Sushi Joshua interesting wanted to expand that a little bit just think the movement and his is adapt ability and his books brain. Is that good say Anthonys is poor but I think he's that good that I would pick him to win that fight if I had to make my mind up now. The the issue of course. It's it's the size and Joshua hits hard and it can be very finisher and technically. He's he's nice correct and he does a lot right so if he that was what we don't know about you should case is county county. Take that that kind of artillery as you say mock clean headshots count bit by bit energy barges chipped away out hanging on the gloves hitting him on four odds may be. Maybe it can but it when you're looking at Sims of is not just about skill while he will win it's not skills contest and anyone can catch you know he's better footwork. Who's got better? This path is a fight. But you know how this will go down mattress but at the minute I will pick to be fair absolutely fair enough because there's so much logic in that argument but if you say you agree or disagree I do I I can. I can see why I wouldn't be chopped without right. I just think that. And you mentioned about the correctness. Joshua's punches. I don't think the judge should be. He's beaten up that way but I think the Joshua punched correct goes prices tiger. Because I think if you can block shots and you can break the gods. This is the question that if if if you can't beat you because you're gonNA break open that guy with wheels solid job in the right straight right hand with Joshua through quite well then reassessing game as well and he's a bigger guys and you can east boxes of the five rounds against Jojoy associates three rounds five but I was there. I think it's had to to do that. And I and I saw I would just diminished until we see. Who's against a real heavyweight? We've come into wing compared if he takes shots all we can block a shot effectively that I was still pick Joshua pick fueled he just because of this year saw his But I I think him and fuelled. He might not be the best spectacle of Australia. Yeah I think you could agree with that but you never know if you're backed against him before in terms thinking be interesting for it and he's been in sensational Hampson. Know what you mean. We're going to be talking about the golden contract light heavyweight stay so we should just say what we thought would happen with the lineup Nixon. Michelle two very different people. Baloch next was probably the danger man in the world card from the first round. Shame we're not going to see him in action again. Because the win over Stephen move with lots and he came over full of belief economy to off the back of his biggest win gates and undefeated fighter. They wasn't supposed to Really put Bruce Lee and Stephen. We know was was struggling to make law heavywight. He'd never made excuses but he was struggling to bite. Law heavyweight and bluntly just hit him with a massive shot in the first round that was that was a Michelle founded trusting because he had a huge size advantage on Phil but who's a CPA midway an and on the night he would have been seven. Five may be a little bit less than that book saw where Asuka on the night would have been he might even have been touchy degrees away. Limited. I've been looked absolutely massive but it could've stopped him and it did slow down a bit in the second half of the fight so I just wonder whether stamina might've been a little bit of a problem with him. It would really interested to see what gave us a really interesting but those parents potentially if they were good ones. Add to that today opening up the light heavyweights as a division. Just so intriguing. Such so much depth of talent in not division close to home as well. Anthony Auld Joshua just to the yard Linden author really good if it happens. It's a great fight really didn't box. Great Call Awesome great the inbox any talking those out but he can talk better and facades either so it wasn't against column. I think you've lost the most severe onset for the round stopped him and stop him by the way she's such a bizarre revivify lost nearly every round of the one that he didn't show that he was obviously because he wasn't getting to school. You know I think. The top level expanded visit technique. Getting the job the job from what was. I think this will still be as best win on paper on paper. I think this win. Yeah you'd have to say that wouldn't you? And Lynn author is got what answered has said which is a good high-level Abbott secure behind. And we did. Did you commentate the that we did? He's Aba final up in Liverpool. I did I did. He was with. What's on the? I think he would have been too artsy. And I think that was the first time we'd really really see what see won convincingly. But he did he did really well and these are not calling her semester job with with power. Belfer and It's the way mcdonagh in history. I with brought us. And he's a good fighter. An yeah I I think he's. He's the toughest opponent of Anthony. How the Paul for Sergei Kovalev? He'll come with genuine belief. He's going to win. You'll see this as a massive opportunity. Because if he could get away the gate. Same these eastbound backing contention e contention for for for we'll talk show with with the WPRO. That's the thing they got a high rate and the ad because such a high rate I think. They got elections tournament for the top. Four thinking they're gonna like later. Our Cuba Ramirez policy for the vacant title is covered. Lives moved on and I think they were being so sorry. I think they were thinking of Moxie Vlasov than the other fighters evolved and a yard. So yeah but I mean if you knock off out in the yard if you Linden author looking then if you the whole idea of the contract was to get yourself a lucrative contract and a world title rank free talk for wartime fight at World Level. There are some absolute beasts in that division and the scariest. This division top level. Isn't it has to be bill yet? Is the one thing Turbie of his guy the way when you have a hangover? Aw when you've got really bad to sake and you have them so weird nightmares. The RULE DOC ones go I say well if you if you watch your watch to you think I could boxing I watch him. You got into boxing me squares. His feet tip doesn't the fastest callum Johnson out in Chicago He. That was just one of those. You should never wish this company missile focus. But you really want. We wish the best hope he does. This really hope bomber fearing for him. Thinking can't believe this is happening. And then he got dropped but when he dropped the Turbie of falling out my chair thinking Oh. My Lord is happening. Bossy Toby than to win. Three thousand people series. I don't think he's invisible. Was Such a well schooled. Ukrainian getting a little bit an age. Now where bill you look throughout see who we see a lot and we know while Lynn and things have stalled for him a bit over the last year or so. I chose the back end up last year anyway he was going to have a WBZ eliminator against Blake. Caporale out. Now we've got the situation we we we've got but I I wouldn't have any particular fear about put out with before. I'm saying he would definitely win but I think he would be able to perform well enough to take his game upper level and make him sick. Okay well it didn't do it that time bark do next time either. But I wouldn't check him into the. I think he might be good enough to show that he can compete in the wheel. I think Brazzi is champion to me in the making but I think you just just be careful do the right way. I give them another step of. I put them in the yeahs today. I think even though because yeah. It's box the high level. The level of Cam Johnson because come chances boxer will like the ad so. I put them but I don't know if I put him in with that. Vati Betty top it is. It's just hard to get most interim kind of parts. Isn't it people talking about would you? Could you go in the same same soul camp in many ways central promotional camp and the ADS is domestic? It's domestic thing. You think they should be able to be made. But they've great fights all in the latter cautionary you got like a golden contract right there when you go down. One of one of the things that you've mentioned a lot of those names would qualify for the title. I wonder actually if there was no rush. Could you have not held onto the bridge light-heavyweight on Brazzi and done at the time yard of saying Woodstock landed off? Could you could not have stayed around the three or four more wins and then you could have. The problem is because on the advent different routes. They're even took reveal routes. You got him a high-ranking then he sold I'm individual Warhol shot was. I WANNA go back for British Hall. It's a crazy world we live in. It's not their fault. They did the right thing for their fight. It of course no with ten days manager and his idea of getting into the top and it worked but I know you the money would be very solid. I would think and also he does he WANNA risk that will rank in the box to box real for real no potentially Wilcox fight the which which is pretty has improved dad's but he's he's going to inevitably and so yeah it's it's a risk reward thing once you got a high ranking in a in an organization. You don't have any risky fighting so you got shelter. Here's a dream scenario for you. We're talking about like cross. Tv and Promotional networks if you did Ansi Josh. Toss and fury. The undisputed heavyweight championship or the world. And you did Joshua Guazzini yard for a world title. Come on Komo News. I'm just GONNA roll up. Positively and then perturb areas the referee in a big dog of of a prizefighter Kelly. Johnson Johnson. Yeah I mean what's he callum. Johnson is? He's a notifies again but we're playing like matchmaker and if there's no politics involve them Johnson why would you be what? Cms The financial rewards us. The political reward was was so high water that would be. It'd be brilliant. And when he was British champion throughout see was made his mandatory was in the in the was through little bit of a whisper of our Marshall. We ran the story. A column Callum said Yeah Fawn. I'll have that And you knew he wasn't going to be allowed to essentially but it's it is a great division and Pascal having a con of Indian summit areas. Well and he's a WPA regular champion. Obviously we're not norma's fans of having to wbz champions that that's You'll pascal would be a tremendous five mark Yeah Okay Yeah to be grateful for Kevin Johnson and a great benchmark if you did want to put them in with your he'd see whether I think yes because yes Saddam recovered. Iv proved that Egypt out for further further advocate for you because we know where he's at Inter because even though he's losing relatives competitive as confidence. So I think he's he can compete. It will level I think Carleen Johnson is certainly can compete level. What's he hasn't yet be the BEST NOT SMART? You might be as you put it like you might be. Because he's the closest thing I've seen around the holyfield since the field. Everything was just fantastic. He's correct with his strong be but he doesn't die on his strength or power but he has enough of it but it skills a good and he's always working on things while you can see it was trying to improve so you might be the closest to the finished article and all of them ironically or even the guys that we spoke about that with the winner of the Golden Contract to me. That couldn't happen for some art. Cam Johnson births and one Another golden contract. The whole idea is that they get a lucrative contracts in higher level for it yet. But I'll many talks. You'll fight anyone in the end but you're not going to step down a level you think in your mind level you're not going to risk your high will rankin to boxer title that doesn't give you any ranking so against the guy who's real opponent office you enough money you will do. It's of course that's that's that's the thing and the point you have. You got paid so well for the caveat fight that was. You're GONNA talk super. Is that will no? You can't blame it on the yard. It was often really good money to step aside for. Call the box canal and then get the winner or the vacant title. And he said no on that because we said but he said no he said no to a Said yes taken on many and then other fringe and it was for the vacant title. No factor yeah. She was really inconvenient for cover because canal fight with signed and it was working weeks later and they said no thanks. I'm coming to Russia which Baku pushback a- pushback and news just resolute. We all coming very very nearly pulled off. They what she was mad. Because you just think you're right. It didn't win any around. And he's he was a couple of punches away in that route a couple of punches back in the corner the trainer was saying was the need to go for life. You now if you we've had a tragedy just a few weeks. Yeah he's line of thinking this. You know boxing changes no forgot. What's going on the minute? No this virus Bingo partner. Climate the pocket change quickly. That you talking eighteen minutes time or these phone we talked about. They could be champions challenge because one of one or two. Why would you expect one of these guys to be champion because these guys as you said you know the CIA is young no petition? He's not a young man anymore. Loans you got two full can keep making the weight books. It's funny though. Isn't it because you add Scott quick that list of recent sort of big names of retired? Futsi left a void in British boxing. I'm talking about is the better use the groves guy. Oh let's go to that now but actually what you're saying is eighteen months. Just gotTa stay patient with these. Get Coolum kids. Which is disrespectful but it cost a patient with them because actually in twelve to eighteen months time we could be really reaping the him just showing the Sunday called the Woodstock and tell them about it. Good kids yeah. He's yeah so really break saw the Manchester and I didn't know he was signing. We might treatment John Evans. He's a by sitting next to him and he said always Alpha salvage treatments that Hussy. Anita look to me to say. Oh you know you'll spice to know these things and the any kind of Russia them over magic chat in the soil. That's great sonning because a guide eastern not saved Jimmy author. Pirates is on call is a good story and he could really fight under any tickets to theft defeats. He had been so much so much. Better Young Me. You can upset anyone on any days. Each class steam so happened clock was really good. I feel sorry for him. His career is just really being pulled back for no reason at all just couldn't get a fight blessed and then he injured when it mattered. Yeah but I was just. She's not David that they dealt pilot was signed crease. Revoked just signed on catchy nineties. The an initiate feels like Paul South America right thought the January transfer window for press releases. And as I've done that there is one out now with so it's a Finnish on a negative but Press release from matching boxing match during boxing postponed event please by all events in March and April following advice from the government and the boxing board of control relate to Cova nineteen matching. Boxing postponed all events taking place in March and April. 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Whyte & Riakporhe talk future fights!

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

1:06:32 hr | 9 months ago

Whyte & Riakporhe talk future fights!

"Welcome to the toaster Topa. Let's go baby. Let's go Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Ringside Toast Boxing. podcasts exclusive to Sky Sports. I'm unable house and I'm joined by four super featherweight world champion. Barry Jones get to see a happy new year. Is I have Christmas the best Christmas ever. I've at so much stopped by big close. I'm having Dylan's begins humbly. Don's dessel whole knee will love that well this week. We're also joined by a man who had a real roller coaster of year back. The last year two thousand nine hundred thousand he will probably be hoping for. Let's say a little less drama. This Shit Delia. Maga to see how the new premier over for no drama authority. Let's see sailing. Twenty two hundred yes. That was Christmas quite relaxed. Aspen family infringes quite relax on Christmas Day like in the White House. Hold this relax. Just relax just is is no day. Different Dominion over. They just really. I'd like to think that After your spell on Master Chef that you come tomorrow today. The House cooking listen learn long-term to people's House. Well I'm glad that saying this. This headache cooking governor and cooking is his headache cause to fire the food. The Food Cook the dish the food in the the cleaning up of the biggest issue there was by the food. No is my sister's like I. Five hundred ninety six so you do them at home food twelve of US Senate and I just said their loss Jay Phillips drama for Ut Thousand Nineteen how are you reflecting on it. Now you know is I've termed to reflect an I've been you know. Even when was done I just I don't I know it's been just been like you know. Why does he even fought by the? I sit Dinu such a crap situation of AH for whatever. That's literally Evan. Revisit four wireless been making always gone onto my career Chase this WBZ cut. Don't stop because like I say. rollercoaster up and down from start to finish really because you start the year with apostle possible potential fight with Anthony Joshua well it is a potential. I wasn't serious fight because they disuse MS negotiate until two minute signed the paper because I was reading in Grapevine just does GONNA fight in America because of his own zone report money up and now they needed to be clawback so in America so I was it was a bit cow fodder for negotiation. Nothing that was you were kind of the middleman been used. You're just basically it was using a public. The main militant sign all we can fight. Didn't wet but that was never I heard a year before that million America and junior city to Edison. CNBC no no no. You're going up into Napkin. Put Your name forward for that. It was a genuine. Did say I said yes. It wouldn't mill. I said Oh have I said who is if you you wouldn't you can get a buddy iwo reverse in July build. It was far from from normal for for that for you. As as you say things have moved on from. The things are positive you being played from. You can't how how. How Oh you looking back on that situation? How how were you mentally? How how did you deal with it? I just did in order to do very tough very we stop in. I'm very termine and and bustle. Thus fortunate circumstances in life has taught me to be later since the child. And that's on do new code and just being stubborn and just care and fi in because I knew was an on fire and dealer Tom Eventually we were talking before we came on air to do this. podcast day just about the mental side of things and how the smallest thing can affect and how important is to have everything right in your head going into a fire and having something surrounding you. There's going on. How can that not affect you? Well it's impossible to affect you it. It depends on what so character you are is how you cope with pressure so people just see just think they trained for fights and then you know you before were underperform and and there's so many other things so it's still goes on even when you have a fight you talking paper for us or you're will chime in everyday life still goes so you have to deal with those other problems like everybody does in life so we don't have a medal for that but something will happen to the big happens in your life to with. That's the worry the stress the pressure at all and also have to train a which is a dangerous situation to be able to Sean. Knock your head off so you have to worry about that makes it. Everything's right and people expect you to perform. Yeah all these people watch it on. TV It unless a man with a crumbled. They have to be honest. I I do believe anything unless crumble given but I think the. Da's discredit a little bit of resolve and just got got on the situation. But how how do you deal with those kind of pressures and blockhouse of certain mental situations nations. You know I'm not a massive people person injury so I'm these been got my family my friends. They are the only rule support. You have all these people in boxing and people you meet then it will support your van full of people who support my family my friends and that's it. They just help. Help me get busy and trying to do stuff. Let Barry said you know. I didn't train to the fight was coming to stone overweight. It was a trade him. I'll just like I don't know it's not the pilot will just say train. We would just like Ma Ma up my nose after training because it's my job but I wasn't really up in levels. The nominee Kemba defy a new one. In Bangor. You know was on getting my weight down six weeks before they even. Do you know what I mean. I'd even chipping away for this laser. Focus this fight was please mm-hmm one Saito was even going to before sinking comparable with you thought about. Just that's it. You're walking away from Watson. Komo nicer fought to myself. I can't be also early. Saginaw million. WBZ World Champion. Melissa beat an undefeated. Dangerous man ask a reverse. No one wanted to fight him. I'm a guy in there being for the BBC World and then for the final Monday she position to fight while by May income a much DC and then our goal in our Muslim in great shape a winning there be at a top fire you know and then it just fell off soldiers. Whatever still functioning still doing things but my it was all over the place you know which is understandable in that situation situation to be like that we think in ev? You can't focus on our fight. You go to the danger important for review and a real good fight right and then you'll see all these other things that are wrong ahead so that the laser focus so you need to have is clouded. So how can you know. Can you perform your butt and you. You did really well. But it's a difficult task. Difficult thing to navigate and work to do to save nonsense molester. It's been my head of him anywhere near where it wasn't you can see performance in defiance before plowing free these guys rivers beat Rufus in good fashion. But but you know I'll still doing. Would all this just shows us off. I am no physical mental and was a person and would erect comes direct training. So you think these guys feel no do you feel that's it you know it's it's all done for you inside if you put a full Sunday or did you still tablet of You know obviously Joe Landay a norm happy cooking because again career and plan and do stuff on meet plans again but in not me back all for my experience because obviously Walter problem my brain scan. If I was over two years I missed a lot of money by the contract in front. It was no near your so many but for me it would change my life so when I did get my license back. I couldn't let it go. I missed the Connecticut to a point that I just retired twenty five and a box again and I couldn't go back more. No wonder whether you for me we're gonNA give you Mitchell. Just let it go. I'm a mentor to show. I'm not a person was quick because if I did it wouldn't be out of ideas ago. An automated to wear him so. I'm a mental showing person to me. That's why as soon as I walk out the ring inside the city. Go Get me one of these free top liberal opponents top top ten guys. I said you know. Obviously the situation was resolved wally round Saudi Arabia. Were you aware that that was coming out of to to prepare for it and I was in focused got great team. They deal with everything they keep a law things away from me and only what they need to tell me and I trust him two daughters so they protect you from lots of England done so more career. Biologists cracking on odds. And can you know what is in shape because he was meant to in November seventeen or whatever it was an another date they need extra free weeks to put me in every man. I've only had freak sprint. Really so also focused in okay. He's a tough guy he's not someone you hate with big shots things. Keep coming forward so I was thinking about other things. Don't think my condition is terrible. But I know awesome skillfully enough to to fight in rounds but all the T- someone six eight whatever. It is losing shape you know so but what are agree ability to shove from negative stuff. Sophomore personal life things undo job will find a way to win an under. His watch showed once again. I think that finding a way to win is sometimes you win you win and you will be successful but some impose finding a way to win to any cost. This is what the difference is pushing being a champion. Not Getting there because some people can have a barrier in front of him. They can be great if everything's perfect. Upsets obsessive rhythm in the ring. And I'll tell you there. They fully falter. And so you said I was using. I don't need us why you decided to retire the foot it was the brain thing. I've been out whatever what I say. SAME MM-HMM I was bitter that person by nature. I'm only walks into and that's what I don't want to do. Don't happen to you because your career is. He's still so many chapters ahead of you. One thing I do tend to try and study the game you see. I think what this Guy Gordon Chang I speak to be speaking guys. Keep because what you just said to me. It reinforced my belief. That listen you can be as much as you you want but you have to still get on with the job and still focus and Assamese is different between for so long now managing physician vision. I mean you are Mr Patients in boxing. My whole life is just been crazy. This story has been as a lot of negative but now I'm turning those negative things a win for nearly season to my life as a positive being struggled been guided that never stopped fighting fighting now is paying off because if I had a different upbringing unappropriated what soft. A person has been like in Boston to walk away from basically thanks. I know you've been a high profile. Vote for a while you saw get used to all the criticism Antica brushoff you more when you first start instead of making a name for yourself and then you start getting criticism. It affects you because you never happened before credentialing soon he gets so as we all know. Okay this is nothing if people want to talk about these good if people call me positively or negatively no. I'm doing something right. You WanNa talk about you when you're doing something credit. Do you give mark tips as well in terms of throughout the whole process even just standing with you guys before the why in on Friday just the relationship between you to your particularly Saudi grows Malcolm. We've been through suffering the University of took his training career to another level and the full Opportunity Foo Foo shows. Potentials that train it. Because he's the hope his dog trainer La guys that get credit for what Marx actually a very good trainers know is own project to shine with this walk in training credibility. So you know we've grown and he's been there for me and obviously like even scissors today for the market office says so that is loyalty realty massively under trainer is the fact that makes the train and you need big. The the profile details Taylor was also really good fight as agents e E. You Stop Thirty like you don. He was a very good fighter. Ah they go through it with you. You know whatever your failing they'd be feeling as well so the roller coaster in the holiday. Whatever you've had last year he'd be feeling it too because his term in the Jimmy? Obviously I'm a heavy punch punch. Living daylights marks hands sometimes feel bad in the team. You know what goes. Discover the bug for Toronto as the Big Fella by is game shows up. I put this shift in you know So I it was a similar champion as if I do do good as well you know. So and Abi Champion so you know. He does put his timing. I give him uh on the on the plane and the way from Saudi was there. was there a feeling of relief. Foyer I was glad to be back in the ring. DOC because at one stage was a worker from Watson and Riva I grew my last what you know like we said earlier today I remember you let the Reagan a and you were dominant yourself hard on yourself out of that performance dream excite you say world because I'm my biggest critic then there's you know you have to be yet to be able to one mason good for someone who's uninsured yourself and just that when I lost to to banish myself that what I'm doing is rubbish. I need to upgrade your professional and this is another step way of thinking to myself. You know what you mentally strong but you can only be better. You should think myself you should have been more professional. Should be more district. It'd be Uber. But that's the extreme Um so criticism makes person that means you champion. I also able to congratulate yourself you and obviously a sport someone in the background I come from the things have been fruit. I look on everything to muscle. We not been Bautzen. Eleven twelve years in. I didn't win. No Olympic gold medal. Seven amateur fights I'm beating guys said. Twenty percentage of boxing twenty five years. And I'm beating these guys so oh well but involves one for friends. She'd never be content. Should never congress is so much. Never get to the point where you're comfortable always have. The anger always have done. God is Dr Again guys chest to be British champion. Get there I'm they can't go live. Gosh it'll be European champion. I really champion. They get the unified a window DOT news next week. I don't win the bill the off the radar talking crazy so I don't sit. I don't congratulate myself too much. I'm always Chris as muscle. We'll get knocked her. I think you know what you could have done better. He needs to be done quicker so acute shoving to succeed that you've been through and the incredibly incredibly patient person that you have been many were sort of say distill from city. Still want to do it but the youngest seems where we're sitting still seems to be there in and I'm an Amer- survivor. None Anonima by nature. You know I'm tame animal one day that what good animal strikeout fights me on to be an. I'm good a few things but finds one of the things that I'm good at dinner and enjoy doing it. And the Ligasi for more kids you know from our sons and us one day so you know what my photos You know what what's your also they do. But I don't often knowing the game because because they it's true allied money pay is marquee to Malaysia. Once you you focus. That's what's going to say because we collide box from ten years ago. My ambition was to be a champion champion. I was getting pretty good. That was my whole ambition inevitable many so most talk like you said like almost tick the box in my lifetime ambition you to make a big amateur career so and so. What is your the end goal? My goal is to be initiative which unto make a hill a people to say yes. I want to get paid. I'm not GonNa sit here and say you know I'm a study of history. You see all these champions Michael Moore in front the Holyfield Larry Holmes Thomas hearns. These guys didn't quit. Fires lit fires. Legend don't pay your bills but they they earned many. They were wasting they waste. That's important I. I'm I wanNA earn so these these guys are great as people saw. Ah when we built we build my belts do help you compare things for the turtle that I've never going to be. You know obviously up to build something kills stuck in be a superstar macos retina waiting for the boat for England your days. I remember all the Harrison yet. Everything going for him. How how it was ability was how the not to be able champion and it was to be yes? He was so gifted but seen interview of him a long time ago and he said I've ever since I was a child I always wanted to be famous and I thought that's why did make it. Nothing because he didn't want to be to be. That was his main focus to be famous Amos. And I think that's when the weather yours is all about the money order about not winning or being a champion money out of the BBC already. Yeah UNGUN is about my pride. I'm becoming have it roach. MPM beaten the man that's his. He's the best in the world. The biggest punch the most feared heavyweight. That is my goal is to beat these guys and be jumping. Because I couldn't give you the BBC wants it. Oh I spent hundreds of thousands with them. Yeah Jason Wilder taking risky. It's risky. It's risky for risky. Author is about the bill but is it going to happen plus fury first and then maybe again. That's the roles. You know I think the best no I think the WBZ might be take another route. Possibly I with AJ those belts possibly being fragment from if I was trying to think of that we couldn't the faculties that might be the best thing for you l.. Gets blown up now for the the the sport in general but for someone who's been waiting so long. You might get a look at this way if you win. Lose their jobs to WANNA fight him because is one of the best from my time. If while the win lose their jobs are still WANNA fight. Because that's what he said even if you lose his next ten I wrestling fighting because you have these disguise. The bills is very important. The money's important but there's no point lying to yourself what did they say. No wonder ability than this but I never really you know I understand that. GBM wilder this different ways of being and it's hard to say how a beat him. Because I'm in that mindset yet obviously I'll say oh God there another slugfest within but depends on so we have to sit down bill game plan. There's a love weakness in this game is is mainstream feces. Awkwardness can punch apart from Yemen. A great job. He doesn't body punch. His defense is terrible. Elise it open and his balances yes and his body is small as well. And I'd like to hit Hartati Eddie. And I'm relentless but obvious to make sure I'm alive and awake and if I don't get lazy so but if mainly move grocery Power I got. I got to some of Powell's will ease off season because our four Beta position. You know bog apply for any wanted. These guys up there will get not on every single fight. I've had loose evolve. Knock out of them drop them so this for for good guys who is a bit trickier a bit cagey. Are you know. Obviously 'cause I'm still learning is also people are people still sell the gesture as this experienced way makes sense to me. But I don't get credit for of seven hundred twenty eight professional but also when you get to that level it's too late to say avenue e-excuse but it is too late to say I'm Joshua then all these were others. Learn on the job. I I don't look for new. It's JALEN WANNA fight the pavilion the willing. I WANNA fight three times this year but all depends on dates an opponent of reliability and stuff bought. 'em Pervert Kin. Breweries are in any other G. Likes them a perfect game. I think I think just the fact that is pedigree and also it's an opponent Joshua who if you do a job on it just it just just hit. It helps your calls and help build of that is our over Youtube solve not Eli. Has this whole your bright day and you didn't you do jobs in heated or or if you count that is of course. I think that that always helps when you when you guys people of boxed yours want to do the job then your your rivals did them. I think that's a good and also played. He is now in the how we still good fighter and he is and he still boxer. East winner Wills Hall Pavilion. Be doing well against Joshua for the I. I think it's a good fight. stylistically is good for you. Do you feel like twenty twenty could be the year you WANNA get a bit of events and back get back headlining and sort of move on. Yeah Turning Twenty Offering is Muslim changes the conversion. Pc you never know injured enough. Yeah yeah a you know Should change my name to the patient I could change it about. Asia is still unfinished business. They're there will always be. There will always be like I said I like the fact just one of a free full time for my career. You know boxing doesn't allow that talking looking but if it is three fights in a row still fighting because me and him would make a good fight our styles arriverive and itself does make for good for you. Know it's a big fight and would just be less than five meaning. That's just a relationship. We have a might start forbid a skill. They need to be a Bra. Do you think you'd be the same epoch so different in. I don't think I'd of ingredient same for again. I think we've seen it before. Lennox Lewis wasn't aggressive fighter in front of it got rough Monday and changes style Klitschko. People Forget Vladimir was most aggressive heavyweights for a long day then you got done by respiratory in Corrie Sanders name lemon brewster then changes though just the same thing again. Tall heavyweight does you start decker very aggressive and then that's against is clocked in early a couple of times he just four. No I'm just GonNa wait a I'm just GONNA wait a we'll see initiate. He's always the same you know there's only one guy and if it does not work into under under keats person in person and even Michael's very aggressive guy but once you've understood it getting through Muslim roughing him up he just. Aj's approach to the last Pfizer Theresa. Second Bite was completely different and he looked completely different lights. Lena do you think that he'll stay around that. I think tactically for that ponant. It was perfect. It is the guy you've seen into his career. Go through an awards and come out on top and destroy people at times. You didn't see that box. I thought he box really really well. And you couldn't criticize great but if you WANNA be a box a little bit like a manly it'll be scared again hit maybe in the Los Angeles School Fervor Buck took him predicting all of those guys. Designs ends of cages. A nut don't get was there anyway so no to me. It looks like this. Last box immovable sports both the other fight US fighting ago. Who was afraid? He was going to gas out rather than get hurt. inbox extreme box box fantastic gets through. He tried to Stephen. He's GonNa think diesel. I'll just get paid and stay safe. I can't blame him. You know you have to learned of your mistakes. And he learned that exchange it ruins had faster hands obviously get caught. I think The cause that might be struggling for years. Could he's on the way the two win any risks that you can't brain that no Frederick the whole career nothing nothing. She forwarded to lose fights with you and him I would be totally different. I feel really chasing. Because I'm I'M GONNA come on and look to the last moon for the first time I went for the second down before genital banks. Vena volks him. Stretching my guess came under JAB which was the wrong such a no. I should have been more aggressive early. Early runs goes White House boxing. You will be aggressive when I got dead. He aggressive PRESA anyway so now for my personal lot more from early. It's a weird with the heavyweight division and light weights because for some let me move in. Rome is considering energy. Yes you guys. It's strange because a lot of weight Christmas dinner inside pat very smooth immediate. Surely they. I'm not saying you probably when you books. In general we have no dodgy requirement. It was pretty much chocolate and small detail taking a small girl burn. Of course such they look. So what's the plan. Now you back in the gym. You're going to lose a stone. Loss hoffer stolen slowing ready. So since Saudi saw you know. And what are you looking to get out again or a decided April eighteenth. So I'm a meant to meet in the next couple. Today's so let's see. Watch this space. What about anything extracurricular like master chef? We're going to say anymore that you never know. You never know where whenever what my mom would love one. She was a big fan cleverly. Even now one of your former opponents also twenty nine hundred full of highs and lows Dave Allen saw the without spectacular win over Lucas Brown but ended it by being stopped by David Price and questions questions were asked about his future in the sport but we spoke today this week and he still wants to win the belts and we'll fight until chef undercard on February eighth earliest the best six round the it won't be anyone wants a world be Sabaot. It's just again biking the ring winning first and foremost ball being completed the last time I was in the boat shooting on June. And I'm bill also so Chilly game winning and getting so Parker Kara in into the swing of fine again you know so. What was the burning ambition that you've still got and boxing what what's keeping you going? What was the was the end goal? Well first present for most of the box you know. I looked to a little to file box in a little bit spoiler partaking participating secondly. I've not won on the title yet. I must be the H.. I've been not by the dream. I lived eubanks. Anything just about it would be nice So I want to wind up out I wanNA entertain them and then saying you know about as me some form of who fought on my side and I'm saying I believe I do believe I still come Louis. There's plenty of got into a lot so I wanna come back on Tan. I want to win a bell. I WanNa make his when his personal. I WANNA help my new stable now. No you know W W A you know I'm sure played. You know we'll place in the in the guy and you know I wanna good as I do. I do the better days the boys that I'm worth so I'm Bob for for many numerous for numerous reasons many numerous law. We've got Ilian boy as a guest on the show. So you mentioned Fabio Wardley is that you could have down the line. Would you say this year. A spot. maybe a year ago. Think look good five as well Case improvement you know saying being the British isles mumps and wants to be a lot of the British scientists China's going to win it in progress. And lastly what are you. What are your memories of that? Fight with Dylan. Why and who would you like to see him? Fighting Twenty twenty. I don't remember you're listening to Joe. Is there anything about it. Wants to describe. It was the first I add. That was a real fight. You know ten thousand laser rain. The atmosphere was read out. You know I was the home. The home favorite kind of thing and you know coop around you realize I was indeed. You know I realized I was the real but anyway it was a would go a little little bit in the last round for it was a little bit to experience. Jewish me at the time and You know it was about. I'm on both say it really kicks off today. So you know no regrets about not even with a disabled Was Far safely in the future. Foreign I don't really don't think there's low price I look the same five per banking on any of the three Austria from testified. There's no denying his. Thank Dave Allen. He is a natural entertainer. If he's matched well. Do you WanNa see him fight again realistic. I probably say no do what makes you happy. That's that sh short life in general do make you happy but for me I think no creed read the Marie ever thought you would have thought we'd have an independent great fight and he's made a name for himself which is great and but while he's still a good looking kid I'm Walis. Yeah well he's he's still songs well until while I think now would be a good time because it's the way that you're going to go. I mean no the step above him. They're they're really big is not never the biggest heavyweights anyway. So for me I can give you called it a day. Now he's a decent career and be happy with that and I'm sure on these young enough knows well to to go to avenues and live another fantastic life the last couple of years in. He's sort of said he was going to hang up his gloves. A few times. What you think? Do you think it's a good mood comeback or should it be a full stop older good to say what is he going to do things up. His Love was GONNA do hours personality. You know you could do something with I know is a sport. Go into something and do that. Either what would you suggest but to be pundit too many took incision is it like to walk away. It's hard because he gone from being. Nobody does somebody Dave wanting to be famous and he got it you. You know. It's hard to this. Go back to being a normal girl from doncaster. You know but where do you go on a picnic. But David price the fabulous boxer and he was destined to the top. It didn't work out for him this. He's got to a stage in life where only knows his boxing from a kid and he can't stop. And when when when. When do you stop before you start getting seriously hurt? When did you well? I wasn't heard of of new. 'cause box infamy was about money so the real big money once I had that contract when I'm GONNA will go in big money and then it didn't work out with the SCANCEN and Steph November license back and lost my last fight like quite dramatically but it wasn't a loss that it was just the fact that I was bitter about chasing the nobody that I never had didn't enjoy it and I was. It always did it for the love I dedicate about Jose sold decision. That you made an autonomous decision Walsh and and and and it was difficult you have then you have to stay away from the sport so I walked away. Didn't go can I watch box on. TV didn't go to any show. Didn't do anything around boxing. And the life and now come back into our as the boxes addicted. Proximity I tell people alchemist so addictive. It's like you I love and what that relationship was talks are not you. You always directed to it. I True Levin boxing with my true shoot furniture before women or anything else. Boxing was it for me. And you have to go Kotor Unit for you go back Alvis. Now I've I've never been in your situation but being around you and the hardest thing seems to be knowing when to stop and it seems to be all just one more. aww Just have one more. Did you feel that you set yourself a time limit Taga when you were going to call it a of set myself goals and tone Nimit have. I've different breakers like okay this age. I'M GONNA stop unless the rewards are way the risks indifferent. Because some I like look hey and badly like very blessed us some in his last two free fight you know. I'm sure barely permanently. walkaway off. They lost to then Stevenson and cleverly and before you know what aw but a move the weight smarr and then he got better and then he made them money and become superstar in his last unfulfilled. So that's that means. That situation occurred in maybe up until then this walk with an exception to the rule. You're chasing something that you're never gonNA catch that elusive full title or the many. This was going so whereas whereas reward seems interesting fighting Tapia. Wardley is not something to be as you want it you can you can have in sitters for Fabio. Young abuse is the here convince me for never lost things. He can be the real industrious time of his career. You know he's in a better place than they've missed. They wanted wants it fabulous dinner to fight and then entity you're gonNA pick someone of this state before in unfortunately if if they won't stick around and fight because they've believes he can be in February nosy can be they've you know so. It's nothing personal boxing. If he wants to fight then Oscar in your you've moved into the monitoring side of things so fighting enjoying that. Is You want to continue a bill. No one gives me an opportunities coming through so I feel privileged enough majority to give back until because he's almost ten guys in gym but they don't make the Jim because they can't sell tickets ideas no one they're giving up pitching people used them for sparring use them for training ration- industrial. They do and I wanted to make a difference because I know I remember. Some fights of fighting at nine o'clock signal. Clinical is still selling tickets. The pages opponents civil goes up Camden insent China's ten ticket sitters get extra fringe equipped. And it's not the game we don't see like a pack back in my day away on the way on the day of the fight so I would cheat way in the twelve o'clock boxing evening at nine. Ten o'clock collect collecting tick him and he still people. Don't we'll see that they only see that the TV padded oldest the real success stories. But they don't see sa- turned pro often often Olympic medal. It's literally the you have to go round to on a laugh and say this is leave tickets. Baba's client hand back their post season tickets and it is beautiful jealous. Art Becomes the flute the Best Dylan. It's been great avenue in today really has and hopefully. Hopefully we'll be seeing gangbusters senior UNOM Very Franky Guys Frankie. Well we're going to thank you and welcome another member of team white very shortly needed. Crown British cruiserweight champion. Rich react. Well he's GonNa be coming in very shortly right so out goes dillion white and incomes new British champion Richard Poor. How was your Christmas Richard? The sounds Nice. Actually the introduction cloud champion for sure great feeding so now we can just work on next. You had quite possibly one of the biggest years last year in two thousand eight. Do you consider that a real breakout yourself. Of of course of course undefined. After undefeated fighter active you know proper livewires and we just had to find a way every single the time we came up against the seven points on paper. It was like this in the know about Richard winning that one. He's got power but you know. These guys are quite skillful. They've been boxing from Komo long-term pedigree we went in we feed all these thoughts. You proved a lot of people on. Go back to Tommy McCarthy because he was seeing well as a huge underdog in that five yearly out of the by. Your there's just you know from Some height fire as a just a location get to me also relaxed and you could do have done much better but you know we find a way in which I'm happy about and just for you know what got into my next fight. Housed the champion of the continent on offer. You know what. I'm just going to enjoy this. I'm going to enjoy this and the the moment and just do what we practice. Keep keep simple. And that's very important. Is You have to stay focused. Bu after allow the occasion to not overwhelming. If you have to take you to enjoy it you have to feel to feel that comes with experience speakers. Nerves are always going to be there but it's learning how to to deal with them knows a good thing for you ever say a cliche but it's true in any in anything you do in life have been bit of edge but I think it's it's it's experience but also some people just can't cope with it the virtue virtue and finally just like you said Love boxing greats to speak up fair nervousness and Lafrance's George Foreman. He said he had no fair when four Muhammad Ali and he ended up losing all about how you do with those the fear the fear factor. I always say that the day I start getting nervous before show or some sort thought of nervous excitement as whatever is that they should stop doing it because you do need that pedestal fire and the belly really do in almost everything you know. Hans is your reaction election time. You know you're able to your bt to fink no this is just like when you're like walking down the street and and fence near death experience it just enhances your your beliefs to do normal things. What to grace and this is something you are actively working on one on this? We should actually. I didn't really think about but it's spot on the news helps you think that's actually true because you're so wide awake it helps you think and I never thought about before. Avoid give you an edge but it actually does help you think more clearly because you have to be. Everything's on point. You have to be right here in my mind. Yeah so take It's almost like it. Takes you out of time itself and an slows everything down how to react you need to do. No no no no no. You're too young for that. When you retire from Asia Korea I I would never keep still tricky hyperactive? I I'm sitting on a chair by now. No one can see me the so. Yeah but it was so I would always be warmed up and loose all the time. So I wouldn't be sat down and warm up pretty quick at the end of walking on sooner lamb. So that I was oversaw relaxed and every thinking about the fight so every thought bullfight mature richly at my heart will fight that. Go look into me. Get to the crowd to go. Looked up all my mates. Thoughtful tickets to Cumberland. Fights are going to see him but I helped me a lot of people don't they undesired whatever works for you and I think I was afraid that I was going to overwhelming. And it probably wouldn't have but you wanNA take that chance. We get very superstitious boxes because when you when you're an active boxer so you work. You want to keep doing that again. And it doesn't work they can put your left Bhutan and you knock out then. You'll just do that. Also in the crowd at your call for his NBA didn't tell us this is about you but I'm trying to make it about me but I would assume SUV Mellon European championship has seventeen. That's the biggest thing in my life than the wolves was approved for me and I didn't think I put five firefights on a per. Five pairs of socks walks in the pants for the fight on the table in my room and I just went through this oxygen and that's my focus was not win. The fight is we. We're just getting through the next Pederson H. I.. Another look up. And that's and that's why I went through it so it just gave me a different embittered torque control my nerves. Control it all not over over to over analyze anything. I'll just think just get through these next pay. That's all of confide everything about the fight the next day but that was it so I would do that when I go to a hotel awesome. I would have make sure I put them on the table. Do that sort scenario a habit on a superstition search. How much confidence? Though if you taken from the wind say that you haven't been expected to cause even when he went onto fight with Chris Colin Smith many. Chris was GONNA win. How confidence detained right knowing that you beat him and a lot of doubt is beforehand? I've taken a bill confidence for at the same time. I'm just I just want. I'm a perfectionist SONAL. Perfect my my ability to boxin. How perform turning me? That transition from spawned amazing Jim and and do not on fight so so I don't really take too much. I just want to get banned but I just think about everything done wrong until the point. Where my coaches Mark Tibbs? Hey listen you're depr- champion now. Now I just want to be you want to be the best me the best things you forget who you boxing kids Fellow sorry who had your experience with it all in the fee. If I just lost one recently off I'd say no you would fifty fifty five points away. We go the sport has changed now. But that's an old fashioned career having no real had apprenticeship which is no new pass now through apprenticeship and all but I mean take credit for windows fights. Could you just have to win my train me to win lose pretty so you look great but then to enough to win Jeremy you the dog out and you got some close calls. But you've gone over the other end. And that's that's an invaluable label lesson they just take over that line regardless of how pretty it is or might look at times. Don't you get over the edge and you win. The I bought online. Then do you watch the over to you. Replace head what do you do. I like to ask a lot. The people from outside on just get advice and opinions like rest rest of before I want to go back into Thinking about boxing. I'll take a week off and then I'll just WanNa get back into the gym. Even taking week visit quite difficult for me to so you do nothing you do. Just go for walks stretch massage by just want to go back into the ring and just practice on things the drunk. That's just the way I just want to be. We need to finish the year on a real high. Didn't eat your co headlining. How was that? How is that the nurse headline yes? it was different. It was definitely different. You Know Bah think of had a little bit of experience one full or coffee because chief support important so therefore you know it's just one more fight being the last night that's fine but it's just the build up doing it into a media tapie different. Yeah you learn from just being around in so sometimes if you see the cameras and stuff someone moves around the background. And I'm just observing a notepad and pen was kind of helped me to do of of the nerves and suffering. You know what to expect. Psalms like visualized kind of beforehand and again time to go due due to joke Chapman. He'd make it easy for you did. It wasn't an easy at all. How are you reflecting? Let you listen. He's credible fighter. The most respect he came to win even after the fight. The way came to my change rooms to congratulate me he I sought him at the hotel as well him and family they will offer drinks and stuff and I saw his daddy was like listen. Richard well done like you. Don't see that. Yeah it's really humbling. You know like I've I've had parents are beat before they don't know nothing to dislike kicked out on my name all the time in the respect of course even if you think in say Jack You haven't made the call you'll just the opposite in trying to find the same uh-huh same with you you. You don't use the judges. They decided wins the fight to either way and in a close fight. which was you kind of you all? These people know these robberies because they think what the in Zimbabwe feel fight Birgit in these guys won by two points but if it's a cruise fight it's a close vessels. The Crossword was the biggest improvement that you made last year I think just just relaxing this this relaxing excellent. I remember talking afterwards with the guys afterwards and it. Was You just stop a little bit in sort of Christmases of the show like some like actually practice it now. When I'm in a gym relax breathe and just simple things brings either literally improved my box inability and even just the way I look you know look a bit more pleasing to the eye watching his screening for this you know but yeah it's it's fun the journey funds for snacks them so we have we have? We obligated eight five a manager. We can do voluntary defense we have I'm forefinger. WBZ rankings so you know we have a few options. It's a moment we're going to sit down with a team under. See what makes the most sense for me. I'm I'm ready for wanting to test myself in this spokesman industry because I never want to no matter how much money make. Oh you know what success are quiet. I just want to be able to look back and I say listen Don. The best tried like every plus wangled lighter tests myself as a as a champion. Because I don't want to kind of look back and say identify if I discovered if you're not going to be in this two by four them out offing notice. Kill me at my regrets but it also takes patience. Even though you WanNa uh-huh uh-huh it's a great way to think about. You WanNa test yourself all the time. There's also a sometimes a little bit of patience. 'CAUSE NO INA before deadly A. B. B. B.. You're not ready for all and yet you would take tomorrow. Of course you can justify to wait longer. Few more fights more experienced aliens. which is you know now already since since the hot the SAM hide fighter to where you are no or the liberal experience? 'cause long way of course absolutely absolutely well a one point that I'm sure is Richard will be watching with some interest is the British toddler eliminated between Japan and some highly Manchester January. The nineteenth thank my birthday. Might I add we with this week. Was the rate offer a few years but told us he's serious contender in the cruiserweight. Division to maybe champion signed with teams outline how to about eight of my fights in Germany and Denmark. That's where most shows and I already not recently come back into pro in two years ago off a two years out since then you're back with a bang. Four stoppage wins in a row including explosive explosive. Wins over. Ozzy survey embody show. How you feeling now you feeling that you're starting to peak as a pro? I mean business May Starting to pay. Here's the pro. Who knows but definitely the the? The ball is rolling stone. The nineteenth you have that big bridge eliminator against Sam Hide. He's a a decent amateur record. Light you and he's also shown us he's been on quite a few sky bills. He picked up a hideous nj against that. You report it. Also I think he twisted cities need fort one legged for for for a couple of rounds we is definitely lacking any hearts. What do you make some determination? And Sam I say a AH afire. WHO's not willing to back down to anyone? Nazia file. Who goes in with confidence? Believe he can win his FIS There's there's there's more than You know as much as you admire that there is there is skill set. And I believe I know in grade school then and he does. This is a real fight between like to. In my opinion two of the talk crews ways in the country I think is a in case of a fight and the one Richard Hardware macy. The other day I'm GonNa get this win and it's GonNa be fine. It's going to be a good. I'm I'm looking forward what's right. We should be listening to this. The only message for him which are up. London cruiserweight clash this year. Of course I'd love to adopt an opportunity. He just Just Richard enjoyed the puzzle while it lasts. Because I'm coming for a great fifty fifty. Fight this this one. You Know Sam hide very well Richard. Houdini fancy between hardened Jima. This is a difficult one to split. I four I haven't seen Indian Juma in any fight so out not know how he would adapt to the undefeated fire. You know coming to win. It's different you know. ORSI credit for being macho. It's not the same. It won't be the same experience so but I can definitely vouch for some high both of us. That's what undefeated we'll find. A Chevy has come forward. Everybody and he did a stop even when he had a injury. On Tuesday so It's hard hottest split but because of experience kind of new Motoo to some hired by is funny because I feel like both of them are overlooking each hour. They're like I want to be they. They wanted to the cake tile. So yeah this is going to set me up. I seen a posting stuff on instagram. I'm slave is going to be on this. Listen you should. You should be really focusing on on your opponent. Because one of them is going be seriously disappointed. Today's seal Eddington was hide. What about you very I think I am as well? I know deal to train the bucket bucket for years back in talent but he he uh-huh a few injuries and being stop-start and I just feel that Sam might be just a little bit too busy especially especially in the lay around and he's e- shop and he's young he's alive were Jill overhand left hand as go big catches the speaking about if he has some with a the overhand left hand we even come back with a right hook it could serve reserve that injury resurface again so interesting one. It's a tough vote for both by potentially look at each other and they'd like to get their hands on the British title. What about you? What's the plan for you in terms of the title is looking to defend a few times? y'All been outright or going to double. It was a beautiful book most seasonable before. It's like kind of Retro Twenty Twenty Two twenty nine nine car but it's it's amazing on my definitely one that forever to keep so you can do voluntary defense for the win all over the gym versus hired. I don't mind there's something special. Isn't there about winning the British title. I would no. I'd just. My old trainer was a British. How my first poetry and the ad under is better than when he took it out they were just like although here one of these and he does a lot of work and really just to be AENEID? It's an IT's one of my biggest regrets. I beat the British boxer. Biggest regret was not. I'm the opportunity. And you've you've got it now and kill not defend it would be an all in the keep it would be himself on to a total lack. I you know. I didn't think this forced to my I live fight basically a novice just learning learning on a job that was to have that title was such a major achievement. It's only when I speak to people like Berry and they simply does listen to you. Know what you've achieved let alone and how many fights by this is historical. No no you're a still thinking and you know I'm a very ambitious individual. I was thinking about like a finger ahead to think about winning world titles and things like that so so i. I didn't come in a game just to you. Know when when a British title unstated light up I want to you know when the war title I want to read more crazy and all you kids is just fantastic. Kids saw disrespect swam on bishops. I didn't come to just get a slap across the head of her said that when I was your age. No but that's that's also focused on on that level that higher level and it's just unbelievable you never think about. That's just been even think you think Paul just kept British style and you guys winning titles at ten fights and going with that. But I'm GonNa we'll tell you know. While notice is with the with the fighters have come across stay they dream of winning British titles. And it's like they don't think pasta so when they get to the bridge level the probably it kind of reach a plateau. Maybe that's probably why the FIS underperform for me. When I came in I always said in interviews? I want to win a world talked us. That's why I'm coming in for win-lose doesn't matter as long as no I tried my best. You know that's the most important thing so now won the British title slot. Wow Oh I did. I didn't really realize how prestigious title was and it's only now is thinking more and more and not less aware whether that Bluestar. We'll hear a name that I'm sure you've is on your radar. There's someone that you definitely want to fight Lawrence. He looks set though to fight quite lucky with the WBZ title. That's pencilled in for March. The twenty eight in Chicago. Apparently do you think. Do you think he's ready. Barry for titlefight I think he is. I think HUPA Open champion. I think what else does he go. I think is just. The problem is some strong and and be on him all the time and it doesn't look the prettiest of watch effective. What he does and he can punch but he just needs to give a bit of space and if you don't can't get US base to get leverage on the shots then looks intelligent? He struggles and I think some Iraqi if he's still got a lot of enough in to produce a high energy fight. I think it's a five dollar calling my struggle to be fair but I think he's shot is he's coming for February criticism lawrence accordingly but the proof is in the pudding. He asked the results British European champion in a short space of time as well. But I think it comes comes criticism. Because he's not pretty to watch. That's the bottom line though these fights sometimes sometimes scrappy at times but but again we spoke already. It is being the avenue the ability to win above all costs. It's it's an art in itself and he has that we might look revision. Vice might look horrible but hold a lot. But you'll get the result and we've seen Tony Nelson was was another guy who's mega talented. But a lot of is so horrible to watch for a while because he would be a spoiler but then he changed his game. Same then fantastic exciting fights as as as as you know the boy's body and matured a little bit more than he was in really fun for awhile scraping horrible to watch it and I think Komo allowance though he just really can't a grip sued we what he's doing in the pro game and and getting caught on really avenue the age and the experience to produce space that he can get those clear. SHUTOFF deleon yourself. Hashtag earlier on today. And when I asked about Lawrence Cody said that the ideal plan would be someone like a loop Watkins next and then Katie is definitely writer whose owners say fight. The best in this country always believed that was number one. I believe the best us before I even had my loss whites and it's just all about me just one of these nights. I'm going to get right. I'm going to get perfect and people about whole who's this sky but just when they say something was eight. What do you think Barry probably wouldn't I'll get right to extend well L.? Look music waiting for the self criticism because it keeps you shop and you're always looking to improve and you have to. You have to take appraise. Enjoy the win. That's the most important thing. Otherwise you're GonNa go through your whole career and you talk and enjoy a day of it. Inducing sit back and go while what I've done enjoy it with Lawrence before no no no no for sparring will anything I want to your thoughts. You think. I think he went up to heavyweight. Thank you thank you finds it hard to to make cruiserweight. What did you think? Yeah I think it's a natural progression opinion but I WANNA get this. I think I wouldn't be surprised if he did win. The will. I hope that he moved straight really. Doesn't exactly what I was guessing that makes a makes sense to mix one absolutely of course the brightest star WBZ Assamese E W S cruiserweight final. That set to be confirmed and this week. Who are you? Favoring in that. Richards don't took US yeah. He's got the power he knows. He's he's got experience. He knows what he's doing. But it's not GONNA be easy on new towards tools for sure are near the way massively any man. Any man who makes Alexander does look remotely ordinary guy for me us. I think he's the guy who doesn't look like there's anything great but he's massively effective punched up I I disagree final. It's it's it's a great tournament. It really has been a niche this year as well with obviously reprogram Taylor allows. You saw this this taunt this this tournament. This one the final was was just one of the fight to the if not the first year definitely before we let you go. Richard we have to just mention your your hand your right hand at the moment you've got well actually the potest cost or whatever you call it I've ever seen most plus now. Wow very cool in the fight. I hate to mention all the time because is for our respectful Jack damage early early and fightback deferred round fractures dislocations and stuff in for a moment Kabul's operation. You're you out for so he's looking like free four months. How's it been going on Christmas as well of you know? What a disgust them can? I cannot train because I didn't WanNa pack like porn weight and stuff and he said yeah you can do cardio. You can't lift or see. No Oh impact so just been literally jumped back into the gym started running maintaining my weight and shutterbugs in one hundred talking on the job so this may be a blessing in disguise. Joe All that was one thing I wanted to say to you. What your job is it when you do it uses a good weapon? I don't think you use the tool. I think if you turn left for the win step into remote power. Massive Roy tons below importance of walks walks across to you. Could you tap the job. I think we just know still be fast. If you just step in a little bit open. Yeah they feel day before they feel on with the real. Yeah I think that gives you a bit more space. Okay thank you for well. We wish you speedy recovery. Thank you I think it looks rather the news Vessel that without seeing the ring very soon ferry and a pleasure house. It's been great. Thank you very much If you found see giving us a right on itunes please feel free to do. So if not though We'll see you next week.

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Macklin & Jones discuss AJ v Fury deal & legendary left hooks

"Hi This is David Diamante, and you're listening to the TOE podcast podcast. Hello and welcome to this week. Tradition of ringside tides tug boxing cost exclusive discuss sports. I'm Andy Scott. Nice to drag Matthew. macklin and Jerry Jones of the cues for prime arc to pair on this which. Matt's yet. For Social Distance Barbecue. I'll have to sale no more to stay. We all still recording via conference website pieces of West, so he's on disclaimer about the sound quality. And hopefully not too long now at the end of the tunnel Let's get straight into it. Lots of news loads news this week. Eddie Hon pretty much a full for all of that. Anthony your shirt and Tyson fury have agreed tons I'm doing that thing from friends with the inverted commas agreed terms on a to do so he's Eddie. hearn said last week. The plan moving forward the big five. Everybody's Talkin about which is anti Josh Against Awesome Fury. Progress still to overcome. Oversee venues as well a- deitz that we have the diamant mandatory, which full that fought as well, but we spent decided by is running now, regarding the financial terms of for that and we've given them. The insurance is tremendous Yorkshire. Aside the all the details that we discussed in terms of the structure of the deal is approved from outside and east from Johnson theories as well so I think we're in a good place. You know I think he's fantasize. In principle of guys have agreed to that. To fights, but of course a lot drive in the meantime with today mandatory details on the group cost situation as well, but we're moving in the right direction, and I'm very confident now that I've guys. They've given that blessing for that fought together ahead might make time some. You'll be proud of personally, but these would be surely the greatest you've might. Jinx it I, mean we. Mont sites might because until I step in the ring until the extra on the contract than we want. Know for sure I'm really confident. Unlock aside when you want you gauge position where you're right sites, the other saying look. This is how the deal structure work, so you have. Yes, we all let us proceed wearing a good price, and this is the biggest. The biggest is the biggest fire ever in British folks is to British heavyweight world champions. Fighting for the undisputed heavyweight world championship, so it doesn't get any bigger and and they will never be big. On thing probably now, generation to be quite honest with you. and. You go to guys. You know very different I've come back from adversity wants Digel the other. Thing he's got. Everything is everything. I, think is what we need a time him in Spol- where we need to bounce back. We need to come back major events and everyone sadist, two thousand and twenty one I think it gives everybody a shot in the arms that we working towards this. We're trying to deliver this oil and I believe we might think right progress to do that so that kind of the incident last week, guys! If everything goes to plan again I'll do the inverted commas goes to plan. We could see Joe Suren Fury, sharing in summer, twenty, twenty, one but Barry. Won't to a with you'll. The good news is out there. Don't want to be the voice of doom bought. There's very very different agreeing and could happen and should happen agreed. Terms is a bit of a loose phrase, isn't it across? It is an all movement paths and things to happen before at in the ball rolling. Let's the the fact that they're talking is an encouraging sign ineffectively in principle. Leave a greeter. Deal which I would guess for the most patches, is the sticking point any big fighters who gets the biggest piece of the pricing? That's the good thing about social media, the Internet and things like that I think that some of these. Things are more transparent than people would like in in the industry, but that also may be. A huge fights, and maybe it's being pushed to the front because the social media, but also because of the the covid nineteen them and. There's a lack of phrasing cricket in the summer. If you want to Righty, stick three stumps in the ground. There's something on shoulder like a boxing devil. Saying that now we've got this agreed. Something terrible is going to happen like police gonNA. Win or walled is going to be Fiorito goes away the other as like a will favoring these two is the one we would say the soon as we have to. We want to see something you gets in the white. Absolute like and I understand exactly where you're coming from, it is good news. The grades fifty fifty split down the middle that was the sticking point. white back with Joshua was for Waldo. Joshua was the the marquee name. He was the cash cow a and basically there's a good affable. He's not going to be fifty fifty bucks. chucky cheese at the ruis fought SHOSHA ECON plant sue far. Eddie boxy because you get. Do you know Y-? You set yourself up front all noise you Foale and a? It's great that both guys have. Got, to the point where all star both lads book both teams are the the people the businessmen the promote etc. realize it's a fifty fifty split and Oprah Book. It's a fifty fifty split down the middle when I in politics getting away of these. Books. In. Catalysts I'm sure yeah big air! Bags what you said about trump's book. Both guys have got mandatory fighting between the wild trilogy, which also fury, and of course to love against Joshua now. We don't expect who left to be Joshua. Put Pool of the thesis. Peak heavyweight nobody expected and the release to be Joshua. Boxing happens. You know downside while to go into that Rabe. Much everyone was saying. Oh, you know. Look is so destructive accommodate. He's fought against them. The Brazil and Lucile OTC just look I mean he's got these damn stay. In one point power, he has lost that power, but of course ties the jury way back up, and so he's took the wife rubbing. You'd have to make him a massive paver. These still too dangerous fights. I was going to say. Which of those two worries you the most. Is it the comeback of wilder out of nowhere? I think we've all written off. Even if you don't want to admit, I, think it back deep to your conscience. You might say we'll. We'll think theory fating twice, or is it who live who you know, good call a amateur. Very dangerous showed law on Folk Licko keep getting off the floor until out into the canvas is probably bit between. He's take because he's been waiting in line. Which of those two worries you the most those fights? While did is always dangerous. You know he hasn't lost power he never had. We had the game plan. Just goes up your out, but few takeaways confidence not backed him up and I. think that might affect a food fight. Again when you can punch like that. Heavyweights anyway, but when you go to Apollo, he has in just close his eyes and spend the shots fight. So that's a risk, but I do tend to think maybe. Fight store think it's a good fight. The Joshua pull maybe just over the top of the hill in respect to peaking. These have to wait on the shelf. Look to long. Maybe but he still good operator and just think for me. Josh upstairs out one more confidence building fight I. Think after the Ibrox well in the rematch and tactical good. In needs to get back to the old Joshua. If you're going to see a Josh you're wherever talkin about. OBITA given fury of really good fights Josh beat Rees, who who boxed perfect at match, that Georgia will be fury. He has taken them all ideal. Josh show where he thinks he walks walls so I probably say fight that I'd be more worried about probably be Joshua Things Linger in the background Paco, vowel Kosovo the WBO tweet outlet broke everybody's heart, which was along the lines of great. Grand Slam unification, but I think the mandatory should come. Mandatory I which gave me books with was like a joke. not to take anything away for Musette, because we will not say, but the elephant in the room is dealing Wi- WBZ is now taking legal action against the BBC to get his short mouth with me. That thinks you can't really blame deleon foot for standing his ground. General I think the problem is I think if deleon radish up on that which he absolutely should have had then you know this would be a conversation or even just got into the mandatory position a few months ago. I think he'd see sense, and it would be more beneficial to him to fight the undisputed champion. I think he'd be patient or white. Talk about the problem is that is big mess the bout so. And he there in that position for so long I don't think he's just adding up to his neck and he wants shot nowadays, that means he's gotta go down the legal route so be. It's a shame if that happens in Split, so one of the ballots in the ends for the Vikings we'll talk about possibly elevates a franchise just just getting prophetic again. Yeah. I'm glad you said. You speak first boxing fan system desire for one champion. Don't ever been stronger now. We've always wanted that Bob just as you get one step away. He look at the top. There's another flight status. That night. The much himself in trouble Let's a roundup the other news did you see the top rank? Show the combat show that under the to the first one with Chicago Stevenson quite surreal in strange now. ATMOSPHERE THEM LOOK I don't WanNa. Be Too critical because they with a Paul finders they. They took a gamble and put shows on. Say We will see here in Chris Chicago Stevenson was moving one level above he's opponent 'em. Did you see Barry? I. Did Jess and well? I notice? Was it was a mismatch for this? Be honest like this crowds to financial. Financially package wanted to get a big name. He could get to the the least among many that obviously meant they couldn't afford a level opponents, and also do they want a massive massive world title fights in an empty arena right now I'd probably not what he did. Not The Batman in the strong and big massive. Ineligible to fathom it wasn't that yet. We still talk to. You looked so much stronger. I think maybe might stay up at that way to be honest. Because he looked, he looked bulkier, and he looked level, but he was holding his feet, and he was comfortable, pushing back in, and I'll tell you look good, but obviously on against much, and because of the and the lack of atmospheres well sometimes when there's a mismatch if there's a if there's a crowd screaming of this been about atmosphere, wrong, junior forgets or Paul. The fight is a time when there's no crowd. You only see what you see in the ring so. It wasn't the greatest things for boxing to comeback with, but it was a step in the. Walter knows what they have to do. I think. Maybe it might be some changes of opponents of the promoters will put on shows, and they all t on especially with no atmosphere yesterday. Children's good for people in its own watch. Top ranks defense. They'll see really really hamstrung with The travel bans are in place so walsum hundred percent agree that the pool of opponents that they had these. Trunks on what because I can only pick from certain areas that catch me fly in and. They have done to shows I. Think Matt Ryan the Follow Up. Show had a couple of bomb burn. Look as good to have it back at talking. Having boxing match, remiss slides, who announced couple of flights Jordan Gil Against Reese Pelosi is confirmed for fight camp show, and just as we come on air at Terry Hawthorne Tasha Join US which is a huge. Domestic. A think with this the corona of the restriction of traveling etcetera of we're going to get some real good domestic clashes here at farts that you know, maybe not quite fifty fifty terabytes. From a from a TV point of view the fines, what you know a think that really really infra tray of saint someone of matches. You mentioned a couple of Ed. Jordan that's a good fight belie. Fights. A real high temp. He breeds hate George, Gill. You know good box, said noise smooth. You know got hurt. The buddy that time I think that's a good fight, and also at attached Joan is Terry Hoffa. You know another domestic well tall shuts off the I. Think we're GonNa be so really really good. Findlay said the next few weeks. Barry think this is your facebook post the of a bit too much on hands needed a wish list of flights domestically, which was sponsored actually, and I think we seventy five percent local hall of those we'd be absolutely over the moon and then. You had to apologize to steady at the right side. You didn't have a female fire on their us. Whereas if you did. If you did have one, it would be this one. To me. Teddy hyper when she won the world title as it happens, she was just fantastic. She was just tonight she was. Children Work and I thought she was just talking to me attached to Jonas as being a fantastic. This look good is thrown off which she's. She's trade so I think it's. It's a fighter, though it's happened to lose the Jonas shown in the past, especially in Chicago that she can rise the agents. I think it's really good fights and also. Again with the deal belotti fights. You almost forget. That's of which will be on the first ballot in it'll. It'll go off, so you? You'll forget is no crowd watching. It's these fight. You need that people will forget. Across data just be so focused on on almost happening in the ring on the action in the ring. I think that's important. Going forward until we can get people back in arenas is a brief folks from the two of you. That know fever if you've watched any of the German football. Or flight may just watch the drop of Ryan Rolling down the window. You so I, but they on some occasions have had fake crowd noise. To boost the TV experience. USA night chosen to go the other way and leave it very roar, and it's an empty arena you can he the punches? You can hear the fly as to which other would you if you're a TV executive? Would you put fake crowd noise on the boxing when it comes back? Would you be more interested does a fighting in hearing that blows line and everything that comes with it. He will get us ma. I haven't watched the football, so could could go, but they used to watch friends when they used to fight crowd laughing. I wasn't friends. Sites bringing it up. But Actually think I'd like to I. Did Watch saved bought. A can imagine what it's coming. We've all been there early on on showed up the car and there's been a cracker of six rounder the. Pretty brutal and I'll bet you could hear everything you sat. They say you can hear everything and nothing. It'd be interesting for fans that get that close to it without the signed being drowned out, but the crowd. You can actually hear the shots go, you can hear the wind seem from the body shots and other. That'd be a pretty graphic. What do you think Barry, would you? Would you be not? It'd be nice to give people the option. Luckily you can press the red button to to hear it or not. But what would you prefer I first of all you don't give people the option that puts mind mass jobs in jeopardy. If. Why would you WanNa, do you still you still? Have you still have color tree the way, but you would have fake crowd noise. Yeah, I probably would say no like like a mattress I remember. Laugh. I'm going to take a high, but my I xe patent to time. That's a fish. So she seemed box on TV and enjoyed it, but when she sat live, and here the wax when I was getting hit the when you hear it now, people that are talking go. Look great shuttle will come on. Get up when you hear that when you're close is not will testify. It's it's. It's frightening. Sometimes. It's horrible, isn't it? You just go even when you're not fighting. GO OFF! You take that you. Don't you just deserve that's. Not Different. Booth a while ago I heard him on the podcast at an interesting. Idea about 'cause in German football. They has cut healthy people doing the crowd on the first match I. Think Correct. Yes, yes, true, he said charity, or whatever that people could? Purchase ringside seats virtually, and have they cut out and have them on chairs ringside, so they see themselves on the TV and it would be like. The NHL Wrestle over avenue whatever would like and to. Have, a cross. Cut? Deal face you. I'm telling us. You're watching is home. To great idea, superb idea that's that. Yeah, and you think that was out on Bergdahl. Bring that up in our next. Workmate, and see if we can get to agree to go great audit of the definitely get well in that case in that case, it was my idea actually. Yeah, yeah! And it was for the. was. NHS's my middle name. I didn't mention. Okay well. Let's counteroffer generic topic of this week. It's a good one I. Think legendary left Hooks. He's suggestions from people in two or three describing facebook for the left Hooks Joe Frazier. All the I should rival gene Tyson seventies way not tackling, which was the clip that we put out to try and twenty people to listen. Told me Morrison Razor Ruddock Dairy Matthews Tommy coyle deviant Lucas Brown de la Hoya. Ve August two of David Isan. Bob The Dick Tiger Floyd Patterson Ingemar Johansson the second points. Henry Coupon Cassius clay any famous left. Hook missed off I'm sure there's a few in the Cullen Jones. To it was the, it was exactly the same round that he knocked. Okocha, lying in the first round nine, this time was beautiful. Left took real coming behind from punch again. Be One of the best is produced. Never WanNa we'll talk, but yeah. It was a fantastic one of the best at took us in the business calling Jones Wells yes definitely. Throw Ricky Hatton's against. Call US I was a rib there. That was a Patriot show. Left up to the body was one of the best letter only punches and Ricky's career. Who The you at Barry who threw at best so it's really a factual it's it's what you like A. It best in European who was the best that you like to watch an action thrown any Mexican. Pretty much I think they just have a natural rhythm to the mid eighty two for me. I probably would save the pushing with sugar. Ray Leonard is because he has so much speed whipping stuck because he's my favorite I'm grew up with. Him Than to watch it when he not go. Dave Boy Green for instance I left Jokin. A double it up, he could hit from body. The head dot combination. He was just an and it was just pout. Timing of the paceman debate was always awesome. He's my favorite man. Who did you like to see throw? He threw it best in your opinion. They survey Leonard. I believable leftover Barry's bang on the money that but you know Joe Frazier. My Joe Fry your other big. But had one vicious basis, leftover, head and body. That it was you was company that was these wasn't a sequel. That was wet foot. He was going to out and out left. Hooker Bob Wakes slide looking to get these left talk for it was what I mean the power that he had with him that that. Let's talk against Mohammad-ali Fifteenth Thrive. But probably the best leftover for. Be The most famous together because it is possibly the best is the bean. Winds have. It was it was in the last on that. He put it down the Nuxie. Got Up. To get heat sweep that left talk those fifteen round. To. Just get straight up. What a shame! conditioning for Mama Valet. Unbelievable wasn't I watched only a couple of days ago and also watch the chat show interview off to the flight where all the conceded that he wanted to let, frazier hinted to proves it couldn't hurt him, and you just think that plan. Although he did, he did lead. Rounds go boy I think. He wanted to prove a point any state in the corner. He must've the Fraser. He at some point like this is a good idea. especially with that Li like a lead left took. Like leftover from. And it wasn't that we because he didn't say that one. That was what that was probably why it was the one that dropped him. You know type leftovers. During the fog show. He was look. He's trying to get sick south then Joe Frazier Bang. He's kind of letting that Jack in the box where he'd been down and scribbled with it court. Bang on chairman. Alex breaks. And I think that's that's Tyson got that because they were short distance within the range. You think you're safe. But he dipped down. They built the distance, but each leap in always leads the floor when he when he landed with a leftover and I think that was so Tyson so close to speak before through it, I think he. He learned from phase the Sometimes people throw it almost effortless is there's no big windup is not the big. Koyo would release incomes. All three legs is just. Almost like lackadaisical left took the switches people off, and then you have the one that you posted on facebook. which was what we postie, the White Alexander which is mice like winding spring up Lennie go. Is that just natural power? Don't no. Way Not. Natural probably not compete blogs amateur like I, think he I think he might have twentieth knuckles on a Charleston is an. You, Stati has been eagle with the body shot that of tackle Luca punching South Wayne was winded. You can. See. The clip that you put outs. Social Media. He's got his tucked in because he'd been hit the shelves and then all of a sudden by yourself. That's a shot where you see a lot of people. Getting knocked out leaning, but left the body because they're overreaching that right hand, which normally be took on their chain comes down, and they're wide open accounts upstairs with let short left as exactly. What? Why exam? The court tackler with her emmy went for the Finnish Elaine left, took so bodies and came DOWN BANGED WHY NO EXAM! Just short the upstairs what devastating knockout that was unique for the food to get that body shot in. Because you do that. You have to take the right show. The package squares you up this name and obviously when you show them back, then you, you're right glove, which is on your chin, either go or behind the back of your head because you're trying to get some leverage on the shelves, so you say punches, conflict assaults is because you're vulnerable when you go in, and you go in for the finish. That's a lot is the candidate shocked the so committed to finish them off a symptoms they get caught as they go in and rancor punch with the hands anytime. You wanted to, and it was never more dangerous when he was hurt. I wonder how much of it is got to do with perhaps natural left handers books, the docks so some people right with left hand, but would box the docks I. Think Henry Cooper by Henry's Hamel. was you know one of the most according several I'm sure that he wrote left-handed i. wonder if that's something that if you took yet, Delahoya was fat. Yeah, if you took a stroll public people, that boxers looks but waxy left. That explained. What some such good focus! But I was writing then as an amateur, I, was dropping body shots. It was I honestly I really was is had to believe the when you see my pro career, and it wasn't the power, but I had the whip in my shots. Weren't you get confident with its? I was so confident when I hit to the party. I would almost away. Courageous do soak shortly. We're GONNA fall I knew he was a, they could get up. At the right angle and I knew I on the album new as it hits him, and he was a whipping shots, just a breath away because I saw when I left Okinawa, you might look club faces me, but the inside of the cliff faces me I. I thought we might Pam sideways rather than display album on my pants. Facing the floor is a different variation. The Hooks of course y'all. Got, my. Bike Somme could. You could do it the other way if they think I mentioned forty buddy mcgirt to teach you cut you out and throw it. NOCCO soil was with the laptop was a different shot that he was trying to change and didn't really fit. We may I couldn't. Could do but affecting the whole rhythm, but that wasn't. That wasn't a left Tokyo, but you. Do you see the AMAS game? You say he's throwing that. Let's talk where you know. The the palm would be facing the floor, the turned into knuckles over, but like Bahrain. Exactly, yeah, that's very interesting. I'm dim. Your wife is someone that is often crops up on those who are list watching the Joshua fight the other day. You just wonder what might have been if they again, but didn't want body punching. Something massively underrated. Something that we when we have these discussions. Tend to talk about heavyweight bodyworks. Heavyweight left hooks to the body other whether. It's because there's something more dramatic about electric to the heads and knockout, or if heavyweight sometimes. They'll get the credit for being good body punches I is that something in my head? I'm not sure no, they don't, is it? Because the finishes nine hundred ten come to come from head punches though in the heavyweights. You don't often see a heavyweight knockout to the body I think because they're so heavy handed. They look into the finish all she. That's you you do get happy heads. They call it if you WANNA. See a heavyweight. Dole really great body shots. I watched it today, actually Gerry Cooney versus wrong lyle and he hits him so hard to the body, so had not a whipping. At he hits him through the roof. Is. It's well worth a watch on new. It was just unbelievable. It's one of those punches that there are so many different variations of it Matt. You spoke about like the going forward with the left a jack in the box. As the is the perfect way to describe it throwing left going backwards, the counter left hook which is. Many donate is probably one of the best counter left hookers eat. awaits so many different variations, which probably makes you one of the most difficult punches to defend us phase, and there's no wrong wrong. You'll end up finding a way that works for you and. Take spoke of course for most people be absolutely textbook. You'll be variation just off that again. What works we mentioned about some Guy's throat wet, the palm vice them, so it's like you know horizontal other guys that palms facing the floor throw quite long. Enough for his left looks quite long Berry. Kinda loopy scoop. You know somebody's like Mike. Tyson was very short. These let's talk and he stiffen these body adrover Powerful from his from his face when agenda, you know really planning these free. Jack in a box, so it's it is different and again I just don't think. Thing whatever works for you? Okay, that's really interesting. So famous in great example guys and onto topic number two those crucial men with their bags of mystery, potions and tools, skilled, many glittery decide the course of his all list of cut conjurers Lewis Al Gavin. Who Calcio MIC Williamson Rayo? Sell Chuck Bodak Joe. Susa Stitch Duran Eddie the clots Eliana Dave Tenny Don fee bowed. Miguel Diaz Lenny Hayes Ralph Sit Troy Luigi self say Sid, Brownback and Tom Snare some great Italian American. Names F assurance from Latin. America names I. Matt used to mark quite heavily butter member you being a face mask with blood berry. We easily car or you didn't have many. I get black. If you missed me with a laptop in bed, I'd Knicks. To Nixon to my box freighters like being an elusive Chia Tattoos. They give the the Mexican gangsters I to those of is. Cool. Now I'm quite lucky. Made so, it wasn't too bad a bruce quite badly. was probably six or seven times a Reuben broncos. Quote by the over both allies, but not it wasn't something I would have been you know synonymous with. It wasn't renowned for being a bad leader for bruiser. Yeah, absolutely Ed Murray. Coming can be worth their weight in gold, so many flights is had their careers saved me Williamson. Probably the standout God from the UK or one of the standout goes. On of course because he no, he shaved Ricky Hatton's career. It seems. Every, if you on it because he's into cut ABC go ahead and you. Might Stop Him, from reaching his potential pro that's in the community and I can imagine I know what makes you could imagine like anyone's job is being very pragmatic and camp because you only have. Submit rest of not many arrested cuts gotta be thirty seconds really time he gets, and but Sunday gotta get up and get back into the next wrong so to be calm and a know what he's doing. Rush and also the fighting south of is not mind. A panic over this. I think he's a combination about what makes her a good team. And I think Williamson's at the had the trusted. And rightly so close. Some little fights snow because been A. A change. About for you had with Jonathan facts that I mean that was. courtly trip two. Seconds of thinking then as an authority on IV was the same brand with the next rat, so literally the whole twelve ground more or less for which to really puts a bad bad coats, both both right in the middle over both. Drip Dining Gerard Blair division Ricky was terrible. Eliana Williamson, as you said by Roy e Die so I think because he was in the corner of Ricky was such a high profile prospect, and obviously a very famous superstar champion Williams profile as a great quote smooth grew with it, so you know the back of I ever wanted to be Williams that. You'd go through that list there. That nickname speech durant. Thanks. Let's look at it, but movie isn't a speech. The Randy Imagine. Sixties, New York Black and white film. You know really yeah, but I mean Danny Milano goods cuts money to a lot of the. More corn on a full said you might say as a love. Cannon older finds I in America actually Danny. Milano was the could sky, and he easy police Malaysia easy eating a lot of a lot of those guys that Brooklyn Vice, Italian, American have. A GOOD Good good sky, actually out of New York cold. Thank you, George Mitchell. It was a big absolute rica for the KFC McConnell, but he was. A. JUMP DOT CO badly La- Coppola. Before your avoid campus? He was badly over. Probably follow always actually. That's a have surgery after it to take the Scottish book. He quite badly. I think. Insures Ninety George Mitchell but he could. Berry one of the move famous ones in recent years. AQAP member fewer there or if he did it from studio fury Wellin- hoagie Cap Petillo. Is there. The other. Way, you would rank that in terms of fad cots. It looked a terrible car on the. He saved Tyson Fury. He taught some theories. Not. With all adult he did. That would be violent with the coach stopped I. Tell You that much. Only because it was fury, the Calcutta News winning, and he was the guy who's all the big things. That's the best repoed potty thoughts. He's got his adult a guy who was losing with cut. They will be able to stop in and say another date, but yes. In the call has made a great joke because. You can't do nothing. But we're. GonNa Buddy at coats and A. Bad One where the corner made an absolute pigs ear rebate. Clips car gets Louise and the guy opens the coping was unbelievable. That is one of the most disgusting, and it was like of how people describe it like a duck. The topic thumb you could put your thumb in you. Imagine cuts astray, but that was like a hexagon and it was a mess. You're right. My I'm not gonNA say the guy made it any better or any worse than anything about being a customer e certainly didn't make it better. Put it that way. Quite a few cuts come off a wealth, so you know it's just. Ashwell option the skinny shocked unstressed revenue. If. They can see that, so they get the end on the Liddy. Assigned where it was reading Christner's. Some still cuts. Clash. Heads are real heavy shocked with with a stick. Stick's a patient rips offered. You can't do nothing to that. Other stuff when you start to get a wealth or bruise in do. Maintain nuts. It's a sign of a good where they know it can. The trouble ahead out again. That's all cash with experience much like a Lotta stuff in the corner, but I do. When you trade is one thing, but been able to do it like like a boxer or a good comment cut. It Up to do it in a short space of time, not the seconds whatever they have. All that pressure where you could be the difference between the guy going on as hall of Fame Career Opium Footnote on active. That's that takes a lot of lot edginess. Squeamish when it comes to cups, but there is the old one where I feel like luck, just a little bit more difficult to breathe, but I'll tell you now if anybody can match battle Jax cop against Marcus Brown. How? On Earth. How the cuts mind go in there. It was like a car crash. That's what it was like it was. Wasn't it was a neak it was. It was Harry Potter on steroids. It was mental it was. It was absolutely the Worst Cup a do. Remember another one as well doing the town cheaply before amateur who temper Mahmoud Miran. Maloney show Igwe the ring and. Been Rings on Seen It. This is when I was looking for Frank Maloney, now, cutting money as a teaboy, and he was livid, been stocks, and he turned to me, and he said he bad, and you could see the skull. That was the only other time I felt like a black dots that you say will come in a little bit close out. Yes, pretty bad one question for you, Matt. Some swelling. In swell when they really appoint heavily of always been curious, it doesn't hurt 'cause. It seems like a really trying to full. That mouse out of out of your life does he is a painful experience. Amazing it's not pleasant book. Your your your Adrenalin grain of merely miles an hour. You got other stuff on your. Get Out of that, so it's it's. It's a place that it's babble. View Bell goes to show. Via the Dante it's? It's got there for a reason. What did you do is a cuts man when Stephen Smith comes back to the corner with hanging off. The truly even training doesn't. Contain for anything, but that was one of the move. Freakish injuries the topic the topic wasn't worst. Injuries is Wisconsin but I. I would love I'd love to know what was going through Joe Gallagher and other than if it was make that night, but That's a panic situation, isn't it? I'll tell you about blah. Then he slept. Against the it was. Jones! You call them and there's no in school in the world that can help. Is there like Samho late that night endzone macaroni, Elliot's well similar injuries, but listening. Is Not said nevertheless, is head swollen so bad that? He has another hedged was assigned to me. That's what like. Joel head. A sexy but ridiculous when you. Barry not so much Uber Ma. If if you went back to the corner and you had an injury. Did you want to know how bad the was? Would you say how bad is it? Would you expect that you're always told the truth? Yeah made you. Know Really. As long as it's not A. Cook, so badly. Right was squirting out all over the place well the worst. What would have been group of that was the last round when he got five squared I. It will be. I never really had a bad bad cook. So I kind of I was trouble of the fog, beat up or anything I think I got caught and I knew it'd be because. The amendment that I think I remember combat to the corner. William, Center city bad, they said. It's okay you know so I. Think Candidate. I just didn't want to get the get stopped on a you know what I mean, so how do people become a costume? Because Mick Williamson Spike about music at length, but mix trade outside of that was a taxi driver on a thing did not necessarily. Or medics do you know how people become cops mental Y, they become coachman. Carry cases cuts novellas knee so as well as a trainer. So yes, I guess a lot of train themselves. I would imagine naturally stats. I would imagine re guest. Trainer and he was Delia cuts, and then he would learn how to deal with the experience and more FIS. He had all. You have to work with an may be whether he's is left. What he? He just was all look at him. Because he's the Milton cousin, it must be not Mr be NOCCO, don't think you go straight into its and as you have some medical background. But then why would you WanNa do it in the first place? Back in the day uneven now allow trainers do their coats, because no, you're. Not, really a lot of just want to start shutting out on your quinto every pays. Whatever other what he buys a book. You know so jerry the train. A-, a lot of time trying to will do the coats as well, but I think when they get bigger fights, and the pressure will run. They don't WanNa be saw track a cook and giving advice in the corner, and they just WANNA focused on. Being the chief secretary of being the corner, giving you advice that talk and they just want someone else that got to be. Get caught about site care of your Roy. Does kind of course that you have to go on or I suppose anyone in theory could be cooler cuts. Book generally probably already got to be involved in boxing some April fall. Before you become a quits, but. Finally, be evening cut so many times go along cuts one. No one knows more than me. Getting cuts because my face is scheduled face. You don't really see that. You Know Rick. Ricky Ricky chains by, but would he be the customers well with yet could Smith. An experienced epidemic williamson will carry case into helping. You think that he's been cut so often. He would probably have a of an inside knowledge of what it's like. I suppose even if he's not doing the cost. I think Tommy Philip fondue does the cuts that out for the Pfizer with Ricky. Ricky one thing that is a massive benefit. Is Ricky missing done it with the surf? He's GonNa fly a young. Fox is caught. At least he can reassure them from. The outside of the rights of you know throw worried about the COP Blah Blah Blah. I would say the cuts men in general for most of your career that. It's. Just an extra person in the column. And you've probably paying for nothing. But I would imagine that one time one time you need an explosive. The bill you have to pay for. Nothing, could you really do you know what I mean I think? That's the difference to you. Don't you don't need as ninety nine percent. This smokes like this time you need. You don't have them. As your could be a big difference between. A. And also how you Korea's? Quote by because it's not just such a saving for that. It's about you know doing the right thing, so you know it's not an unrepeatable damage after the that's involves. Removal. I'm sure Ricky had an operation to remove scar tissue because it was cutting from the inside out the skull tissue, so called on the inside the any impact would cutting from the inside out, so he had that removed from using years of Cots, just a real gruesome focused on. Why we shouldn't have expected any different because we're talking about custody is a bad way, make we? Should we should we move on? The worst case the hats which. Is Me and my brother before the football much messing round chatterbox in and we both class heads still. Time and I cut. Just. Immature my eyebrows. And he was so angry combat. that he wants the. You just cut me. You move away and. I had brother so thanks. Brother Steve thanks. Okay, so let's move on now for final section, which is a fancy fighters. competivity I think it. I think we'll be glad when we don't have to do this anymore. Look, we started, so we have to finish. Lots of social media hate last week. A have to say. It was absolutely brilliant of never been I've never been prouder of Johnny and Matt mccloud. At, but I have to say co fraud took it in such good taste. Let's hope that nobody shed the episode. rijo cows, aggie, but Joe will have been pleased by results of our poll where he finished on top. Five percent of the vote Barry How many times did you vote this Lobamba, come a blisters on my. Second was on number. One Pick, which is Roy Jones junior who got thirty, eight and Andre Ward, always a fans, favourite, unwisely fourteen percent, but in terms of some of the other polls that we had that was closer than most. So, we'll run out of white divisions, but we have not forgotten heavyweights this week, though going to go back down the whites to the bathroom whites, so if you like me been blowing the dust of the boxing encyclopedia on the show Annum, a few box wreck searches by his all list of greatest roosters, which is say one of the best nicknames Freddie Weight Division. So. We've got F- joffrey Terry. McGovern. MEMPHIS Powell more call US Cereti. Manuel Ortiz Orlando is all as Panama. Al Brown. Rueben Oliveira's Pete Herman chose Bob Taylor. Joe Lynch Sixto Escobar Job Fighting Harada. Johnny coup loan. Kit Williams. George Dixon Jeff Vinik and Lionel rose so Barry County I anybody missing from that list before you give us your top three. If we missed anybody out, that's GonNa Feature your list. Not My job three know when they asked him this pinch. Johnny Tapia because if you're gonNA go more recent. Jeff Jeff Panic, Finnick yet he's on once. You get past saw mid-eighties fighters of box getaways that it's had Canadian adulthood particularly good I think he's a fantastic. was told the some white. Yeah, believable fight! Them is one of the experts you'll see you knew see it on Youtube. The Forum I can seventy. Seventy seven a joke with. RUTTA versus Affonso Zamora's. It just goes easy or something like that and it was like to massive punches Zorkin about. Like sixty see Kale's Saturday wins. The Tummy finished his career and Zamora was a was a huge. Was The punch until he wins. You. The best price you can have a see. They were always added just. As know the bantamweight. Through so many punches, and they just never tire. So, but barry onto the dishes on my list and one of the things written down was the wbz in the wbz refused to sanction the flight, being the undisputed world. which when you read out, records just seems crazy. I'd love to know the context. Anyone knows cindy in, but yeah. I think you're right. I think it was called something like that as You tend to think you have to go right back in his speak to talk. And also this great stories. Zamora. Punch Olympic so badly finished his career? I think. Dunbar Tom uses is mid twenties and years later. You win the lottery in Mexico. Crazy you probably didn't independent oxygen? All those hats fights. Took career. One of the greatest. In twenty at least and then thinks you go nothing and everyone's luckily can edgy. joffrey was not one of the best not lead best. One of the best fighters. As honest so in a in a country, which really doesn't really produce any good cycles. Football's God's in Brazil everything soccer so. There's a there's a man that you're not just brought in. Skills could punch holes through walls and a steel. Only lost the one guy in twice and I was another old time grazing in Japanese fighting the rather. Long as these fighters in the League, and you go rhino rules. Another fighter losing all time greats. I think some fantastic names on the list. Come back to editor for it because he's got some really interesting stories. Anybody that we've missed out there that. Should be. Salani set say a good five. The probably bets are a white wasn't aimed superfly the answer, but he was bad so white champion and he was definitely. You know a recent Yay standing in the white division. Look you know you mentioned the Cannizzaro. Ruben Olivera is a course editor email before any of. You have to look at his stats and I think he's probably university regarded as the number one of a white. They tend to. Fight series one of the ones. The are love is Rafael Marquez Israel Vasquez on no, that was up at Super Bantam but Rafael Marquez is someone that's probably sneaks into top ten. Maybe ended. Your phrase from just wants comeback that they say. The editor had the greatest sporting comeback ever in boxing I. Know a long time, we think. George Forman coming back after years and become the heavyweight champion, but editor Joe Free. Came back a federal way of disappearing for a two year hiatus to come to weight world champion. Should we get onto the top threes? Then McCullough Walter Swire's while it wasn't super bowl sponsor. In Japan as well really at the Travel Ed Buffet and that must mean for. Because basically tells in Las Vegas in the William McCulloch. Really pushing it because you look all action, you here's the Olympics maladies, but you still travels Japanese fighters. When once have a champion back? They really do with their wallets. Who sits in your top three then Barry! In reverse ruled. Number three for me is Panama. Brown fight for Netanyahu on the flow once in one hundred and sixty eight fights, not just an outstanding fight us. The story of this guy seems a gay man back in the eighties. Of the products falls in love with I, think it was a right to. The massive never fair still was a phenomenal, quite ended died in New York skin like most is I'm afraid. He's just a fantastic Saudi, but gretchen could punch bowls walls as knowledgeable desalvo along the late for me, the asked to be known three for the longevity. This career nobody deals in an era. It was which was surrounded by fighting as well. And I think he was. When you think of Panama Boxing, only one nine that really stands out in the more near Truth Roberto, Duran, but apparently before that he was the most talented fighter to ever come out of Panama I'd also even though kid. Gavilan got ready so the the first credit throwing up all bunch I think Alberta you through seventy hours. Maybe sending similar, we might be in the Guy Really introduced shelf to us. Trailblazers, valley in every in every so. Yeah. Definitely Here's at number two. I found this had that's is Carlos Duarte Sixty knockouts in seventy wins? He was just a monster leaves a sixty five for lost some city like that. And, then of course, if you only number one. Said drugfree. It has to be me I, think he still I think he's one of the best. In of all time in any leads. Could. Punch ads all the skills he had longevity, and obviously no, not that great comeback had an English hi. Good, enough you still to beat everyone. Could walls after me. He's my number one by a standout to be honest My is you list a different. A little bit, but only because I've got to be on his. Way would be one of my struck whites I've gotta say even go up a pretty good usually go back through the years. A boxing historian find some white would be one of a week horizon. Maybe I'm saying these guys because there's one for Mayo Orlando Cannizzaro is number three. Ruben Olivera. joffrey number. One Ribbon Olivera is someone that probably could have gotten the best left hooks yeah. I gotta say. I gotta say to Berry. It's too late now is that we're twenty minutes down the road. People have switched off with my bloody ramblings Graham. And you brother ahead. Of. Some of that comes up with a comeback for so two days later. I to say. He was fantastic. Five match lights the Nike Bucks. pity Hattie over here and he was in the box news recently I remember watching it on TV. He lost. Near world champion in my mind. In the first vice that was one of those things where the one night and he had, he was a champion of the world in everyone's hottest except for three judges. Who Sits at number one in your list Matt so to Recap Orlando. Cannizzaro is three Ribbon Varas. To. Eric Uprise at one. Edda Jefferey at one so I I do waste breathe a sigh of relief when the two guests save number one, Barry, you call us. Arrests site number to Panama Three. Matt with diabetes of leverage if we could put Carlos SURATA. Number two yet. Though I'm going to walk you out happy. The reason any reason it's just He probably be the last. He. Felt threatened I. Did. Although it's not the easiest, but both of you deserve. A stiff drink could not having to do the super flyweight episode. I love Johnny with Jodi Nelson trying to let super-flyweight Johnny Nelson superfly. I know I don't know how we ended up on it, but Joni trying to pronounce Jiro what an all by. It just wasn't happening, so. About you call recall, it could play tig much about am whites. You think maybe weeded super welterweight during the two lights. Is that the one we? We did a fabulous. Human alcyone and you won't have an assault. You, you were wrong I'll tell. You if Is Scott Studio somebody's. Studio Ralph. Mass well. This week we'll let you decide okay so. Energy of definitely number one. Caller SURATA AT number two. Who would you feel about number three? Lavar is or will under Kanye's all is. Our Brown. Buried you WANNA stick with Panama Al Brown. I do yes, I, do I. Do that's okay? I feel like I'm mindful of Paula. Now. You've got to. Feel strongly about stick to it, or are they? Not sure WHO'S GONNA win poll? because. People don't vote for the right person. Necessarily they vote for the name that they most recognize that we interested to see if a whole free Joe Frank I. Keep Saying Hall. Nando editorial fray. It'd be interesting to see if he wins the vote on that. I think you. Don't get as many boats. The weights goes because they won't be named standout. Look up the ten Bengal each of all time, and then go a new look, similar fights, and especially in this loft on all you just time your life's gearboxes nuts. You're not the time you're like it systems. Some of the best. You can watch that those middleweights could. Well that brings us to the end of this week. Show so you. Can I just say one thing. Aku She can I. Was GonNa? Ask You if you want to say Happy Birthday Roberto's around sixty nine I think he is today. It very easy to skip over your own history. If you don't if it didn't go your way, I think he's birthday. He and his fate. Thomas hearns a separated only by twenty four hours or forty eight hours, and he tweeted our only sold the tweet yesterday, so if he if the anniversary was yesterday. tweet a lovely message about life SUV teaches. Lessons doesn't go how you think it will follow it. He's lost. Sir Thomas hearns and tweeted a picture of him face down on the canvas, and what was one of? My brutal knockouts I just do. All of the comments. Were you know how classy is that? The can use negatives to turn into a positive and learn life lessons of happy birthday. Roberto Duran. A tenth of his career I would just be hill canton back the my career, so that was good. He wants to just something special really. I know there's some people that athletically gifted and other boxing finds them rather than they find box in kind of thing, but I wonder if the ran if go bill someone that was suited for fighting in terms natural talent. He has to be up there. He's one of the best biggest punches one of the best jobs one of the best thinkers, one of the best body punches and one of the best defensive fighters using credit from sit pinches is typical, but the punches. Going forward is so hard like the way he. Just turns his head is just at that level is phenomenal. I've. Landed but I think if I was my age now, and they sit around. I think Japan would be man I think. He's one of the absolute pound for pound old shop grades. He would be most people top five pound for pound ever. I Mess I ran back ten years ago. Ease Massinissa dramatic, actually by the way the rams my size stock yet. He's my heart's midgets. Really and you see. East giant can believe he could make super middleweight middleweight. We cruiserweight and the thing that beat him. Ahead Robbie. Karan. Of attracted to the madness of flotsam sometimes, and he had that as well the chaos and carnage that followed him around is who poll of the story. Is the worst and the best board fought it for dramas and lunatics and crazy stories boxing. Just it really is it just you will never forget sport like it. Outside of the ring. Another podcast and undersell goes mount boxes in my era latch was different eras and the new era now and before this again with the worst, because like you talk about people just been normal lives. It's like. They did on the side, so it's just it's the stories you grow. Barry stuff. They're running out of time. That is oh for the show. It's flown by. Remember to us all I choose good or bad. We've got thick skin. Don't mind. Stay safe and still wash those hands. My thanks to Barry Answer mapped most of all to you. Guys from this thinks next week.

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Campbell, Jones & Clarke talk Ryan Garcia & Billy Joe Saunders

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

51:26 min | 2 months ago

Campbell, Jones & Clarke talk Ryan Garcia & Billy Joe Saunders

"The. took. Hello and welcome to this week's vision of ringside toe to toe a podcast exclusive to Sky Sports. I'm Andy Score on this week. I'm joined by Berry. Giants Ancor and a special guest in cool hand Luke Campbell. It was a super supervisor for you. I'm sure you may get to the pilots. Who stayed high market, good boy home stay! Flu Campbell at the pump. So you can have a haircut and have a point, but suddenly you call record a podcast together so once again. We're video conference website software, so he's on Newman disclaimer about the sound quality. We apologize, but hopefully things are getting back to normal and not long say go now for bucket sky at Luke. It's been a crazy time for the whole world and your boxing career I or how? How is everything going both? Ways and Old Good, old good and just started training again a couple of weeks ago with my team things things go and go to a kept chicken overdrawing lockdown. No complaints just ready to get back in the ring. Of How was the homeschooling for you? What was more difficult, prepared suffice Loma Chenggong her schooling. Definitely home scoring. A bit of that just that just. Like the relief going back to the Jim. It's been long coming coming together. What were you able to do during lockdowns? Keep yourself taking without access to the gym. Just plenty erode work Buchen up regime. Just a bit of everything, merely trying to just give it good variety like Watson session in the by Goal Doing A. Or bitstream from some roadway. In terms of your career league just wonder if you could save up for us about what's happened between now the present day, and what happened back in February a long time ago, you set to face. Have a fourteen off for the vacant WBZ. But lost happened, since then gauges. Run US through your understanding of. What went where. I was four weeks out from a well title. Fight against for tuna in Washington. And then obviously pumped democ Kit down. A real shame because I was flying. Progress was going great well. Yeah, listen none of this scene Nissen to adopt? An down came, and then it was a lot changes in lockdown reinstated Haney with the title, and the my fight was wasn't on. What's it fall, but no one really knew out because nothing was being done all set because we're going down and then last week seeing that Fortuna was fighting llamas, which by what I was thinking all the I was still due to fight him. Without Change, and then the wbz altered meeting Garcia the the. Hillary. Yeah I mean what what was done for your mind. When because of Tom Different slots on, we will go to bed thinking. It's Campbell against wrong. And then you wake up in. The WPRO avoided Garcia face tiger. In a final eliminates are in everybody in the states. He's saying how Gosse will probably go that route wake-up morning, and that's done a complete handbrake town again. Yourself Garcia with the American Journal is reporting that he's sowing your to promote negotiating. Yeah well I. Mean I. Don't exactly know what what you've signed. What is it to sign? Lane. Why is it to sign Einstein nothing? We'll see what happens. If go that way I'm very excited for the fight in the opportunity to be on the big stage. Come speaking for for Barry and who bringing in a minute, but there's a hell of a lot to know about Ryan Garcia of than what he's done so far as being very impressive, and he's got a massive following online, and he's hugely popular with fans. What else do you know about? 'em Rain Gosse is a huge draw. It's a big big fight. It brings market audience to disable. is a big name in America. SEVERI exciting. You're in that sort of group now. He to still still young man, but you know a youngster anymore. How do you feel when people start calling your name as an opponent? E, but yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay Faisal and Yay Face Luke Campbell. Does that is your own. So of a rubbing hands in delight when you hear that noise often described, I want to be involved in these big fights and you know I've nowhere name reached while I'm capable of doing so I'm very excited. Very Jones. You'll reaction when you saw run Garcia Luke. I think what Garcia has incredible hand speed so I think that's a challenge for anybody what he also has is, it flows behind that speed. I think lack of experience I. I think we need a young kid. Put a foot wrong. Defeated then you think about the neighborhood and rightly show. Had, some decent tests days, and you had to give him credit I. Think I think Campbell now is just different stuff. Step up, but it's not just the big step. Up For me, it hasn't really had. News Chrissy fights preparing for the fight maybe that Campbell. Was Experience. which is this an image of professional I think Luke Scott Experience boxing than I raised on the Chango even the lost. Know. And then obviously the with back. Then, he's adopted me learn. New tricks from every. That may be gaseous hasn't really ducts that level just yet. Is it fred the WB L. The WBZ Bertha would the same guy to fight. Different people were exactly the same on. Explosives is one of those situations that you're more likely to get when you come out of the other side of a crisis the we've ever really experienced this before, but everybody wants to get going as quickly as I can, so I think the mob this. The governing bodies kind of butting heads a trying to get people to face if they won't face it terms of golf, Zia, he hasn't yet how to fight. What experienced any rail condo adversity, the last couple of bid for this round blowouts, and that's impressive against your merit, do no, because he dangerous kind of fights on Secca is will title fights, but he would say that he's elite level, but he's not been put through the ringer yet. Gop Sierra hasn't had that kind of Gut. Check is the seasoning thing that's what we like to say, isn't it? The price people like to use. He's not ready dot seasoned, and that's the danger going in against somebody who ways It doesn't mean that he wants puck to that level because he hasn't books about level before we undertake in the past. But no, he doesn't know. Nobody knows admins. Big token big CHASA fine. But then you have to bucket up. Look on social media. Usually people have all means of followers, and if you mentioned them, you get hounded remember if you mentioned anything about one direction now that he's you still got attacked by a million one direction, fans Have you had Ryan Garcia fans attacking your social media? Not Think so I mean I, it's it's a bit of everything. You certainly have a few of his fund saying that he's going to win easy Blah Blah Blah with it, doesn't it? On this being a hell of a lot of people funds as well as saying I'm going to do I'm going to win, so listen wants his fight. Go announced. There was a hell of a lot of attraction. Social, media when crazy. Shane been working on or have you already started formulating a plan for Garcia or into it signed an it's on the sideline it doodle focus on that and you just like being flat fit for whoever it might be. Yeah, exactly I mean. We're just focus on. Maybe the best I can be right now. On, not making any mistakes in what wack I'm doing, and then I guess if it does come to a decision making the fight and will be whacking on things over show. which have reservations about traveling to America? One because you have to go to America Facie mini anytime country into for covid nineteen reasons which have any issues with traveling. Well I mean look for it to be over here to be on. A huge fight, we have the best friends in the wild. So why not be over? We can get instead you meriem depending on the guidelines and rules by when the can be done, you know we cut a good crowd bottler for the fights theory. And if it did have the bay regardless of where it was, if it did have to be with no fans, he would that benefit or indoors at something that you would be prepared for. I don't think it bother me. In the slightest to be honest with you just a ring ring anywhere. I mean me Mall Marya more people at go listen. It is what it is and. It will just remind me of the amateur days. Well about inmates who are no staying up in with you at the moment, NC foul on crispell Smith, both in the gym alongside you preparing for their flight candidates. The the busy the gym, the happier the gym in how's everybody doing training alongside each other? Grit I mean everybody's fly in and there's a fantastic atmosphere Bob in the gym, so the the guys are whacking out and train training, you know their fights in the fall waits until last fight, so they're in the the debt succumb. Anthony, Faldo's blackall said again that it was a thumb on the glove, but If. It's a baby believed it was an argument with Shane about CBD oil. He has in the past. The ICE GOPRO can a long time ago for the. Andy which which fly of the flight roster that we've now got you most looking forward to something against ten teams, men often kitchen because it's the show in Web looking forward to that. Like both particularly last year, the case had the Guy Slid Smith. Fatigued, when it was an automatic by Joel with cold by that lost his British chocolate. Gerald so. This is a really big five him. I I think if EGGINGTON loses, he will just come again. We'll continue it. CHEESE OOZES FOR SOMEBODY WHO's always said he saw it resolutely. All the will taught so if loose. Think, it might be a hard one. Fridge come back, from Same questions you. You have the schedule that we've had announced so fall. which most looking to? Often Gill I think that that's just a really chicken because there's still relatively young. Defeat Three. The one senator hatch eighteen months for you. Get back to where you are now I. Think and so I think for me, that's that's going to be really exciting. custer stars low means is going to be a pretty fun to watch is riding on. It's more than just a win for that log I think, are you your career progress? After that some some losses, you can come back from quite comfortable you. It's a a as as common show of course but. I think I lost three the one they will really put on the Pank. Really put them down on the scales of interest the public. To Molefi for you before you guys on I, cut you off the train and you got busy housing. You want to go on well. Eight hundred promotes doing with fight. Cambio Fan of that. You know we have to just do things to get boxing back going again in Eddie's back autumn. Which I know you, you've been down on saying the you looking forward to how that kicking off. Yeah, most definitely think he's done. A fantastic job rarely saw outside the box and. More is doing a fantastic job and. The guys were cast is is that talk is is always pushing. Undoing his best get in fights out. There's no of a Komo renew care that anything like that. He's getting his own Guidon. You know he won't take content. Get. These fight is out and I think all fights amid agree trucks. Just finally from the thirty three this year firm. Achieved nearly everything in your career path from that elusive world. Do you believe that? The wins the losses. Everything that you've learned that experience that this is this is the time now if it's going to happen, happen dishes or early next year. Yeah, most definitely coming up mosh performance, few little tweaks in my style adjustments I. Feel like I can I can leap forward. And get much better than it was in molest If Israel Garcia next, how do you be? Bathroom, what I do best. How do you think he coach with the South Poor? You've seen him? I'm not sure how many south were facing these career. It doesn't really matter how we cope without falls because all south. The different any and everybody has different time in different speed different power, so it really relevant. We cope with any of our four. I'll go in there and do monitoring and believe I win the fight. Of. What difference does it have? The? He's got this massive. Media Profile when fan base it's just a big fight is a much bigger fight. It brings a huge audience to it and also different audience Wish you the best on older guys. There's well give our best in t mcguigan hopefully will be seeing you under the bright light soon. Hopefully we'll have some some announcement news as very soon Sunday. Appreciate that. Okay so I should just say. Thanks to there are no. He's got the whole team mcguigan living in in the house with his kids and his wife. She deserves a medal by by the looks of it. was very cool there berry. And he always. Not Coy perhaps but very. Confident. I just wonder how big that fire is going to be over at. If it is in the states, Luke seemed to be pretty confident will be here in was even talking about fans coming back. Feels like we're a little bit away from at the moment, so if if it needs to be in America. Presumably, it will have to be in America. What did you take from that? You tend to think gas is the guy with the following and you tend to think that would be the case, but. If, it comes on the money because I do know if they're gonNA, pay more than another company. Then scar will pay for whoever gets it will. Be Of course. Again I think he's cheesed off that he doesn't have a definite anything, but any boxing. The most distracting pilot box is the uncertainty it training for the date never quite sure if that will be the dates, or if if the opponents of is going to be the world's or tile or goal, bounce, or whatever they want to add to the craziness of organization so I. Think once he has a definite stamp. This is this is the fact that this is the date. This is the belts. Than that I think he'll be all switched on understanding of what he has to do. I still think goes in a bigger gate gase I've. Evan formed two thousand wherever he has always on on social media, maybe four million. What he has, that means nothing when you get in the ring issue in the other guy, the other guy opposite you as basketball experience at every single level. We had Ruben Diaz the matchmaker on the other week with macklin. One of the things I said to him because at the time they were talking about Garcia Nora's straight right. That was a an alarm bell, and maybe it's just my personal by companies that sleeping on the Norris for Ryan Garcia and I think the same about Lou Campbell can't believe that the sleeping Lecomba on what Ruben Diaz said was look. We're not bothered Ron Garcia confide. And that to me. That's volumes, but. Is there an element of they? WanNa push him quickly because of the white of popularity among. I think so, but also you can't fight each shown at. He's good fighter, but he still had tests, but then the zombies or the said a few times today that just hasn't had taxes and he hasn't doesn't have to steal to to get in a dogfight. Not The changes job we. We haven't seen it yet. Because to goods and those were the. Division is such a stock division. That may be the Lara's Luke, Campbell the highest level might in their mind DVD's touches compared to. If he were Lopez Oh love. Jenkins or even Devin Haiti I think. It's probably I. Think enough on the line. With a genuine will tile and I would be if I with walkers have history and the to medical practice, but you could see. How finalists legal out, if they want to fight their wolves old on us, and maybe they see the narrows and Campbell as the weakest link at the highest level. D. One. They're a bit about the relationship between dossier rheingold because it's been strange over the last few months. If you remember last September, he was supposed to folks. A Spiro was Omega 'cause then respond got arrested actually at the way there was a warrant out for his arrest, and they wanted to replace him with Romero. Do know it also on the cards ready like not student about nothing was twenty, walden punctured taking. off very reasonably, said no know the relate changes in the rely challenges, and he's a dangerous guy. We need to have a look and we can't do it. Every of golden boy, then condit's suppress in the aftermath of that side to go sacred said do not down because they thought he was too dangerous and pretty much accused him of both league. gossip was livid about that within a few days late Sri saw the new three a deal. And then outlets down, we hey stories about the wanted to take certain five I thought coming back out down the two hundred grand us, and he said that wasn't enough so. Just like really know what's going on between golden boy promotions. Side that the good took him into a difficult fight. Huck the guests Bayton. Because why would you have a hug that? He liked to the point. Weather security will just take this I, will you? You are. If Garcia and golden boy, having disagreements, and the fact that in the premiere of slagging each other phone Switzer is great for US buff kind of thing you may be key account, so andy just run us through your senator of what happens, so is it that the winner of Garcia and Cam with happens would fight David Heine for the full title. Is that right and they would they would box each other interim version of the title and Lenora Fortuna would fight for a diamond version. Is that your understanding of what is a web of complications? Pretty much a main the WBZ of a shot themselves in the foot, really in terms of the reputation and credibility with with the introduction of this franchise belt buckles is a total nonsense and everybody today's. And what it means is now you have a situation. Where got the interim title and unbelievably yet? Whoever wins not five? Will fight every Haney. which you'll be a really already, go fight. It's just. Is just yet by Lucian of of the belts, really which which isn't a good thing I'll go no problem with the full governing bodies. People talk about alphabet titles with all the rest of it, but it gives five Pacheta tastes, and it's not likely candidate. When there was only one belts use these housing days were if he will your Shaw, Ego, you'll show last. You know how it works even harder to get allergies it, but it's united. The WBZ. Franchise is just amazing. Is it really that after WBZ really what is, but he's Korean again? Jail Free Card with some people and two more things. Before. We move onto the second part. Of the show. Pretty. Joe Shown himself out but canal fly, and that could open the door for a come Smith or John Ida Barry, which way I do reactions billie. Joe said he's not going to be ready for that and. which way would you like to see it go? If it is one of the Brits. I would say Roya I don't know why the just like the kids. When he lost to field in Burma's apple three four years ago. You never thought he'd be where the is no to be honest. I think the next calendar Smith. Would you deserve the chance more than anyone else? If Joe, Sante doesn't go ahead to the? If you can't if he'll as he's massively overweight, we can't lose the weight to get on. The train. Lights felt like that out magnitude. You don't WanNa. Go with it one hundred percents, but you shouldn't be out of your wait. You shouldn't be that federal condition. To not be able to take a fight with eight weeks of this really for the money involved because what he was canal is if you don't take opportunity, that might not come again. All good money here? Hit the money against him. It sit back to the rest of life on a beach. Many, that's the difference when Oldham's and if you if you win, you gotTa draw, and you get the second part and the republic so east East honeypot every around that way the parking because of that so the billy not to say. that it has to be genuine, it has to be otherwise it's just. Throw your career way on talk. And I think there's. A big sympathetic wave of emotion for John Rider that he he could have got the decision against counts, and didn't and if anybody perhaps deserves a huge like Barry, said career, defining paycheck against the superstar, the spoke. Maybe no begrudge it for John Ryder. Not I'll take your I. Don't think anybody would full reason. He could have got the decision. It was a very tight his way and he took it as well as you could possibly take it, but the reality is the goats it than he champion and is what you'll champion. The could make some money. You can really much money out of this been a up and down career for me stuck with it, and it would be good to save. Get that rule now and unusually for him. He's Kinda pods of available on Social Major. Put himself in the Friday for this, while which is something that he normally does, would love to see him fight Canal Cola Syrupy. Fantastic, but when you look at those. As in terms of A. Financially Full price fighting there in to make money. Callum through the will books. Series is really well. Whereas joke through having achieved collins achieve is is alone wife further down the ladder, so yeah, a lot Joe Ryder get back five just on cylinders on Billy Joel this a digits wonder while the. He. GETS THE way type enough of professional boxing? Any might be thinking about packing an. That's an criticism criticizing him for for. Canal fight, but if you want to fight him. Until months long enough to get ready. Who Do you want to fight? I mean you do have to ask really because he is the biggest five the biggest name the biggest challenge, the biggest efforts thing may be after however many as it is boxing now because he would have started when he was four or five, my slightly the dignity of Berry time may be the passionate just GonNa Bait, and if it has because he's done well financially, he shrieked with his investments from from from what I'm told if it has. than. It's time to go, isn't it? Will Lot but it just. It just makes me wonder. Barry boxing returns. Friday finally down at bt. Sport, studios in Stratford talk the. Bill was brought foster against James Beach Junior for the British, bent white sauce. I think speak of us. A really hope that he goes well for these guys because they are Paul finding for us, it will be different. It's GonNa look different is probably gonNA sound different in a TV studio but at the same time different doesn't necessarily mean worse. We've got east to the football with crowds. How excited all you just to see how it works, and it will give us a little bit of a window into how all the guys are GonNa, do it. Yeah, it is. It's just to get it back with to get game road and again these kids swiping. The long away. Especially, the smaller name fighters don't earn as much money along the way more chances that they was filed spoke. About, foster opportunity, but this kid who's good fantastic. Humidity has accommodated on these flights early does and each grit determination to go with the skill. At this level to hold his own with anybody, I think him against another kid. Jay Speech, you get an opportunity of a lifetime. Read all boxing. Fans will be watching this first back so that actually intrigue so I. Think the good performance for him. It will not just a win the politico performance. Will Lady shoot them up? Allowed to a lot of the I, think that's that's the most important packs, and if it's a good fight than entertaining. You'll forget about the lack of atmosphere I. mean the people its own you forget about? You'll be engrossed in the fight and as revolve. You've talked about as well many. It's on before. You be of the here the punches and not that itself is a mess. If you'd have people, sit at home or go. Come on get up. Early go by my ex partner. She went to watch on TV that she says she must rely gasoline ophiuchus. Handed as she was ringside role to fight, you could hear it. Links you hit the slopes in the BANGS and you'll get out of total now for the first time ever you'll get hit outs. Omen and it'll be different respect I think it's important that goes well and it just an exciting fights in lines of all the shows on entry path WANNA. See An oxen will be back and we'll be happy for him. Hundred percent said I know like people think that 'cause. People at Scarborough when it's file, absolutely not rule books found three weeks. Go Well I. Wish the guys. They're good health and then. Like, Barry said great to have books in back. We can't wait for it well. Let's also the second part of Shire as you know during lockdown. We have come up with this game which is being? Pre. Delights site I think while three donald them the mass. Think this is the last week, so we're on to the lightweights of our fancy flexes. Lost we did the heavyweights, which was particularly good fun especially getting Gerry Cooney on urge anyone that hasn't listened to it yet. Just listen to you if you hate me and hey us Mrs Jerry Cody's burden the poll when as expected Mohammed Ali strode home the goat. We seventy six percent of the vote so much three thousand of you voted are well Don mackey mcleans loss minute pick of rocky, Marciano little bit controversial, but justified. He finished second with fourteen percent. Fully by Joe Louis with seven percent Larry Holmes with Ray. What are you doing? Guys on unexpected expected to win, but how can you have Larry? Harmed the bottom of that poll, never mind. This week is the final fancy Pfizer. A rollercoaster ride will onto the lightweights again I. I think we're looking highlights throughout this mathematically Clinton being bullied by Barry to change his picks. Johnny Nelson Picking himself. Not a one percent of was embarrassed, but we're not. The lightweight. Let's have a look at WHO's made a list for the possible top three and you go show. If you think there's any one that should be on that list, so Julio Cesar, Chavez, Freddie Welsh Alexis or Gway who featured on so many different way? Divisions of really hope he gets in. Call US OT's Tony. Kahn's Nary a Jack. Kid Berg Roberto Duran Bonnie Ross Williams sweet pay pernell Whitaker Joe Gans Benny Leonard Battling Nelson Jack Blackburn Lumumba's Henry Armstrong Floyd Mayweather and the original golden boy. Oscar de la Hoya so andy clock. That list is pretty convincing before you give us your top three chat in general terms about some of the names their. Law White Familiar. It's just one of the best divisions because it's one of the original divisions, obviously and Scott such rich history. And The raise interested in it is because the will lots of really good lightweights in those, he says he five days of the twentieth century, which he's appeared of boxing history, which up always been tugged, fascinated by air ended America just because of the way the school was than. And will side because of they the subtitle kind of demographic of the spoiler, and how it changed with regard to immigration and the influx of different ethnicities into different cities, such as London such, as York with with box, booming amongst the Jewish population in the Italians and the Irish is just. It's just a great great mixing pot so I might chose his economy biased by my by my interested, those thirty five forty as really. You get more towards modern times. It does tend to be one of those whites that fights his kind of move through, because if you look at conduct, bantamweight, Super Batson, fed the super lightweight, super lightweight. Fifteen twenty pounds separates. Of, the local taught me how far which was the best way I would say. It was probably fed white, but other people would would would disagree whereas back in the day the would as many white divisions away in superlight, white or light welter is. Technically did exist. They didn't have any traction so the catchment area for each way with much bigger at A lot. Stick and stay that way the longest side, a love, one hundred thirty five pounds is brilliant. It was also the first of a Lonsdale out that was ever did not nonce Freddie wealth status white to with loaded with with history. Alive that Barry Fuller that tell us what you looked a lot at weights full. Oh! Ditto. Pretty much. What he said the capital Addis. Is True though it is like. The super featherweight search you had me on it. It was. Some all time greats of. STOPGAPS are the to move on at the end of their careers. I think lightweights is one of those way, too. You've had career lightweights, and that's the nist is is a really difficult list because you're abstentia, which at all time greats won't getting your top five or ten? which is scandal a almost any other weight you will? You'll get and I think that's why this is one of the best of all. It's free. It's fantastic. I'm like I think. A first years a century was where you you've got some guys who were game changers. You cut the fight with Adam. Style was was different. People used to set the standard in many ways or the structure, but mold of boxes with a box moving forwards in the end the decades to come, so I think it's a Motassedeq weight and I think we'll just listen to on the day. I don't think we will have too much problems about who are. Two people in our top three I think we'll be unanimous with. Hopefully I think, but I think I think we might not. Discriminate which old they go out of this, but I think I think we might have the same tree which is a Ramsey. For the last time ever should we do it slightly differently, so we do both of you. Do your number three pick I i. Love them by giving your top three would be. Number three in your list I and A. Let it the for me. And why is that well lightweight champion? Nineteen seventeen to nineteen, twenty five, he was adopted in the world, lightweight, a the first great Jewish champion, which is a significant thing because so many great Jewish And and interesting story around until no, that doesn't really count, but he'll still lose money in the Wall Street trash on the back to books in yesterday for seven years in a lot, more fights was said with your position. unease disregarded it at the time was being the best of the best light wakes of all time in the people continue to say lot for for quite sub for quite some time, and it's impossible to to compare fights came with with Pfizer. Fifty, sixty, seventy, as lights are adults how you can possibly. Do it rarely, but as far as he was one. Those that need was a. he was a game changing. You talk about tragic to story so that follow these guys around. He died whilst refereeing. I think aged fifty one was one of those things that the most dangerous sport in the world, and actually when you step away from it, that's when your number comes up his very sad, but yet daughter age of fifty one from hossack wealthy use refereeing barry. You'll number three. I said Andy. Come on Joe guns is mind with reams beyond these number one possibly on them, but to I think to me again. Another game changing in in an away, people with roles may be and technically the hope he'd see today as much use a guy who wrote the modern. Of. Oxygen Technical. CIOPPINO movements though. PART OF COURSES ALBUM! And told stories is on the order the. Or these. Tell the story Joe Gans guilt pepper how he was, it was a horrible tragedy, but a a disease. At about old, though so late into his career really. Derail very young man? It be passed, but for me. I think he was serving special. Have footage. Really of how could he was, but you got to do research In an era where people really fight with the hands on the hips swinging shots, he brought an artistry to to the the spokes. When just because the color of escape skating's denied opportunities bet get the opportunities that he was given was also refrained from knocking people while otherwise no one else would face images one of those things that you. Might think that now Taunton that existed, but it was very very prevalent, so Jerry Ganz and Benny Leonard at the to number three's Andy number two. Side this will give away on. Vodka Doron, the number two of. Throughout at number, two and the three could really come in and kind of any order. Really what I love about Louis a trio is the even though fifty as separates the end of landlords ride from the middle of Durand's lightweight right when he just ruled supreme in the Nineteen Seventies. If you look at the whites around went about his business, the tenuous years is career. At how often he boxed, he could have been boxing in announcing He was not kind of a fight, so they oakland westbound to decide why why now that's why a lot of three so much. A durant, a lightweight at the time was Amini was basically unbeatable. Lose a fight on points to westbound yeezy. A couple of times five light weddings against him money when unified and people were avoiding case, fats visible in it for you to fight around with a hundred five pounds when he was young in maybe a bit more disciplined than just completely omits. Activity I, because by the time we moved up, he was sixty three. One so ten years is I ten years approach sixty four times, and that would slowed up. Is He became champion, but his thought as a face as to career is the a lot of people on the planet that fitting him up lot and left school full teens term pro fifteen. If you just think back. What were you doing at fourteen bay? Probably tie my shoelaces. Let alone thinking about being twelve months away from Tony. is grounded in Panama's really fascinating Obviously, there's a little mix and stuff this. Despite the story by mucking out holds, IT DIDN'T A. I. Like date horses. Way trained to be remembered. He was a guy who initially happened to sleep guy, so he couldn't hide his emotions. As. He wasn't a ring. You see the fight and landed way even after the fights can't accept, his wife. I think the story somewhere that didn't he give? Opponents. Push a slap or something? Because because she was, she was up in the Ring Shelton him and he couldn't take. It is a guy who lychee it'll just. What would you know boxing you think oxen sage lied, but is a guy here who has the dynamite in each hand, a chain of granite and a temperament, a needs taming twenty four hours a day throat. This career is really busy walls electricity. How can you be as good as he was when the? Ever Walk, they serve unlock discipline unit a lightweight. Especially, just trade them. Await not even trained for parts. You have to drag him is to get him into into training sessions when he was focused when when he did show up what he did himself in shape. was as good as you could see for me. Was a guy could do absolutely everything. The punches to be defensive is very difficult. SIP shots coming out you. It's ferry. Had It takes competence and time and vision and some things you could move you comedy. Teach at. You have to have it. The slip pensions coming forwards is almost impossible. One Punch knowledge again and then SIP and encounter edith continuously go forward. Turn punches a moving ahead and making you miss all the time for the impression you make you miss raking afraid to throw a shout knowing if you miss, you gotTa pay you're GONNA pay tenfold in. ME. A fight to do if I can being fought like that he would be in my top three. Definitely agree with that lovely, and WHO's at number, two view Barry at. One of the did not need greatest Jewish. FIGHT THAT ABOL time. It didn't introduce JAP obviously to the Bulls but introduced variation of the job, but he didn't just use it for rangefinding issues, a single Scottish dealt with double it up punching the body. You'll even trucks the left hand. The job for me is the most important weapon any box really. Alleged Oto Bola even Verana. The great job had to have a job to come forward and Benny. Leonard showed the world. How effective left hand of good! Yes, TIME COULD BE! And for me. I think he was. Special with a the streak don't forget will guy. He's Saint Joe Gans the boxes. The nasty is about and Benny was nasty. You know you even up the job. It was all. Look in full Chattanooga trump's to destroy with the heaviest shots of me. He's my than the to. Say this is the big unveiling the the key moment, so Andy Clarke the one lightweight in your fantasy team. A fighters is our gopher. Joe Gans, the second full of bought my top three could have been in any already, but I just really loved Joe Gans and a half for ages checking I still relive. There's a brilliant book by William Gabled. The could longest fights about his in Goldfield Nevada against battling Nelson and bouncing sixty I have I have my book as yet to read it. I can see it from here. Absolutely, tremendous read and Ganz. Barish Barry's neatly covered a lot of his career, and he was champion for nineteen to seeing a weight and you, my forte defenses or not still record fourteen defenses in six years would be erased of all right bye-bye typically for champion now, because of course now they don't do anything but FAI championship fights under costs like full endless title fight so in that period he actually have fifty five fights full Matata defenses under three fates to I'm came out of his white vision woman's against the. Youngest son blind food which six. Of the CABOODLE, but it was another was a case. Jackpot Burley was a face in Pfizer himself, and towards the ending was definitely in the throws closest, which which he died from sadly faulty, young in age, our the genuine ready to throw the book survive, but but but read that book about defied Malsin because even though he was champion, battling Nelson apparently who's? WHO's a daily pleasant pleasantly mind may twice as much money as this. Joe Gannon stated that any putting in place all sorts of ridiculous conditions because he knew that guns really needed the money. You make your way in three times on the day of the fight the last time right before opening bell making way did his box kit as well so that? Lots of a couple of pounds they did all that, and then eventually after big fouled continually by Nelson Forty two rounds, just casual forty two rounds lights up. Disqualified Elsa to me. This is a good air. The lack of which we call really know too much about the res Grady Footage Elvin. If you watch it. If you can, you can see the skills of the mine had, and it's just the third black become world champion. Cassette. Street can come in in any order ready three quite quickly and they just. Case of sorting out WHO'S GONNA. Go Away. The biggest the biggest conference I hadn't similar said to me afterward what am I? was like watching Joe Gans. Unbelievable I said well. Thanks very much, so it's not a company made you just may travels all ICHI runs? Very good very good. Who was number one? The all time number one lightweight berry. Wells from pontypridd nominee joke, it's not funny. He could easily be in a top five ten Stephanie. It's around be more. Think I think. There's well tremendous, but for me jerome. Like him I. Really don't. I know show we'll. If I like again I was landed. Find growing up and that was guilty. I always wanted to be wbz beltway world the Giron. Site, Chaban. Though whenever will I know him imitate what he could do and. Six year, domination lightweight division Williams at. Esteban the Hayes Defeats Michio. When back twice after that, but he beat some good files on the retrial defenses in an era, which was had to keep the title is. Andy argue that. The either of Joe Gone was even more difficult. Choice a week, but I think the way not just around dominance in the seventies. The best boxer never the way you went about this work in the words about Smith. The beautiful brutality of it'll. That's exactly what it was. He just joined to watch an animal, and I just think for me some of the previous podcast of an issue because you're talking about fight. Is You bring in place? If in divisions I, still think durant just as a lightweight to get what he did before knockabout. One of the best ever seen that weight now would probably maybe his best late so for me to. I think you've been easy I think. He stops Joe Gans Forty when Ryan. Drums. And say it. Is it strange how people don't really tend to talk about similar light way? Even though he reigned supreme, but light way, they talk about the full kings who've cruelest next eight season, and any move straight up also white from lightweight, and you know that's a big jump, and it's incredible what he did because I'll let you say. He didn't really have a discipline, and he was probably always boxing after he left lightweight. You've probably always folksinger whites. That was really big. A full launched by he was absolutely brutal. A main is just. Outlaw Pfizer is name. We all love one night. We all love one. We might as well tossing fury will now you could argue just kind of five that the have about them. Everybody loves star ends. Menu still guidebooks five in the end. They was just just so much skill, and after she to his world, they make people miss going forward. The head noodles swivel of his Ed. SIP In shock in a beautiful real jeopardy. Had you see swishing wrong with? A. Punishing you to the body while ago in fights, insides even be moving your arm and hit you with uppercut since. The the body and moving his feet, eight have is a world class. Zero just stood in the Middle Ring crying. What do I do? Every time. He hits me. Feel like cry I'm going to try to hit him back. He's nowhere to be seen. It's just like the worst nightmare is likely. I think though think it'd be more discipline, even the moved up. Epochs back. Iran back is the biggest middleweight and I've seen in my life. I met Roundabout fifteen years ago and needed like A. Heavyweight. Each massive and like Iran Iran and Japan is. Half an inch taller than me. And you just think. You can ditch you never in a million years, and not just a beautifully skillfully was Eddie competed at any weight. And he was just something else. James Toney gets credit for the way he boxes. Ema Sat Day watching Doron he must've sat as much. Slips going forward. Imagine the Taran stuck around with lightweight for two or three as longer, and he could have books Alexis Arguello Montana. I. Mean What what's a dream fight night. They agree no guests. Nobody's PODCASTS LEVATO now don't even think Alexis features any of the post, but was mentioned in four different weight divisions as a content off. You're really really bad for him. Tony Kanari areas. The only other guy I thought that you Jackie Bird might be another two that were in the conversation. They were close for me. Barney Ross was close for me as well again Lisa concentrating Italian fights again, that was Italian Cole coming into boxing another Jewish vice unbelievable life story. Every boyfriend As father, go go! Family Shop. Than became WHOA here. I I'm. Not, ghetto for basically addiction after after the Second World War did these guys live lives? You know who wasn't just wasn't just spoke Synnex Matt stuff some of the time. We need to put them in a universally recognized top three from Skoll so. Let me. Let me take you let me do to. To run, do run run run. Run direct. Job Done if you put you put on that he's going to win yet. Boy Model by model. That's not the reason that's not the reason that we should do it. No but I mean I would admit that said solitaire slightly has. led. The fact that Barry had Joe Gans at three and you had one. Could we agree that? If we put a durant at one that Joe Gans on merit can come in to. Delta me. Yeah, and then Benny Leonard at three. You've made convincing cases for any three of those could win it, but I think. We get the same. I do the same, but I was just the way and the started off. Talking about is love for the first two years of the send. You knew we were going to have a different than one. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right to mind. Very good, we should just say that. He's long stop flying people in the ring, but he has conquered corona virus, so I mean that is printing impressive on us in such dreadful disease, but it was great say durant being clapped out of the hospital wards, and so even giving like a victory speech as well so that was great seeing A. Long on the way to recovery now identify elderly to mets over remember. A friend of mine went titles. That guy another comes I they I think this Moose five or six years ago and A. said one of these people just kind of aura about base know about conduct, massive big stall housing loads of people around, but that caught you going through a room and you don't. you think yeah, smell. The potential AILSA in this room and the Doron's the. He came to my came to the ballots. GonNa trick them, and he was having photos who people they were charging of course, but he had two belts and shoulder. A moments at Wbo will talk about Jealousy Inaba. One. I feel sorry for. Giving there's model belt and the other bounty hats which people were going to say. These belts in the belt was an. Intercontinental. Right down to from the house. Just the facility durant's the photos taken they judgment so literally I should have got you around the seat belts, but the fact that people with chuck that Japan has an intercontinental title belts. Ralph from Roy achievements we drown kindred spirits yet. They go the similarities Reynolds for her. Well. We should wrap up for this week. which say thank you Lou Campbell. At the top, even deeping camp, and joining us, so we'll see what happens with him and Juan Garcia but more than anything I'm delights site that we don't have to play that game anymore and actually next week we'll be able to talk about the results from the front. Warren Beatty show and talk about other things that you know maybe make sense, but we don't have to play this. Nitty school to the game again this lockdown. There'll be a time will be allowed back in the office and we can just have five as in of just full and stuff like that I. Don't think would see far away from honestly, but thank you for joining me a hug. Goodbye still doing okay and. Other no jinx it on know that there's like down in that Bob. we can watch the foot one you one and crickets thoughts on Wednesday this week. Just like with the boxing finally come back. We'll be one of the lost comeback, but actually dodging the new normal is not not too far away. Well, Berry Masisi no doubt my thanks to Luca Talk. Yourself and the very, but most of all to you guys at home for listening makes. We join US next week.

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Jones & Macklin joined by Fowler, Eubanks & Jones Jr

"Hi I'm Debbie Jim Haney and you're listen to toe to toe podcast. Hello and welcome to this week's addition of ringside sites to a boxing podcast exclusive to sky, sports I'm Andy Scott and this week I'm joined by Matthew macklin Very Jones an ansi the machine foul. Thank you all for joining us. Just a week away from our first quite camp. capshaw waiting is almost over Boris is king personal to return to the workplace, but that doesn't include boxing podcast just yet. Once again, rule on a video conference website saw all usually disclaimer about the sound quality and see first off. It looks very sunny where you all where you joining us from. Ken mcguigan comes down. Can also him folks odd New God? Scott like fair in down in Garden of God bingoed non stop me made so just smile. Obviously it's been challenging for everyone How have you found it? This is the first time we spoke to you. Since this whole pandemic struck and everything was on pools. You're busy back in training now and back backing full flight, but how you cut to the whole thing. Rare? Break, from reality like I wasn't comfortable on. Those live on will pass an interest. Over which is nice me because plus ten years in Lebanon on the road, Tapeh, thing team Gb. But they'd call wealth. McGregor never been always being sovereign, so the nice breakthrough Seattle. Other than the thumbs in the eye, which always debated on this show was to who's done a WHO. Showed with Shane after moving from decor, yeah. Really Nice Fella and geometry and the the comms gaze. We always hard you'll. So to go place billionaire his proven, and I'm getting better. Bringing Matinee. A seemed like an amicable decision between Dave and. Anson Ebay took us all by surprise. What will Shane Bring to Antony? That might be different from from dubose methods. Aside buckle coaches. Yeah I think maybe just a different perspective you know he may see. Today that might be Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses in. He's very low. Die Very committed so so it's I. Don't want to speak positively about shame and indirectly Sometimes. You know new. Star, or China. China's the rest of the time at the loss against his Jeremy's come back with a winds crews moving in a positive direction, but sometime maybe that China just saying. Challenge Vanilla freshness on Ethic Chines Young China. Already experienced while you're on. I think you'll be offended. Could move on that like I. said that's. A reflection on Diet Cola. The good job just felt any needs to pressure things opening a fresh perspective on things sometimes that. Can work. And See, what was the the main reason for moving onto Shane mcguigan. He had I always falling. Behind Sheffield I. was there a long time and I was living by myself. Just a media field hockey lifelike mean bay was killed the stock today. For you. On, the special me in my life and my own happiness, so obviously a move on here am more of a family like. You, said Gee Bake. T method. Come in the House Colby Campbell. Chris Smith. It's more of A. Fund feel than live, maybe self and Sheffield. Barry, can you understand that? Yet a cannon I think not say was pretty much. The same vice, a different voice, little bit of a kick. You needs since sometimes you get stale, but you see the guy next to you. With the following the Gbi, guys, could they be the? Environment so wrong and I compete a high level in a group. That had breakaway. I'm being trained on your own or live on your own I, think happy is usually a good factor, and even some fighters need to be on the only doctor lesson I. think that's almost like an old fashioned ray to trae now south in the mountains and lot rocky scenario I think we realize now that you have to be happy yourself the bowl and get. Get want want to train I. Think Anthony's being used that environment though he's back in that environment again, that's maybe the he need needed percentage to move onto the next able. Anthony you only on your copy. Book is the the Fitzgerald Defeat. HOW HARD TO TAKE! Was that I'm looking at. It couldn't have been that hard. 'cause rebounded just five months later against Brian rose. Was it was hard to take because I was so overcome Sin Star is to be an easy I. Think you mean based. When affairs lost. Fight for disbelief. You know the fight. We study competitive and it was A. Good much vice so the night for obsolescent Brown all. Console air stocking nih-funded. GonNa win the fight. He's great, knocked on, see the shorts Komen then dumped me to scorecards in his favor was more disbelief, and it was really hard lesson Milan because a washing so over-confidence both line arrogance soda when against me enough sensible. Landed off as well lot more. Folks fight than I want to punch no one. Let me last few fights. A bit, too. Over tense against Brian Rosen scarf, always against yourself in the fights I was. House a bit to ten to overcautious. WHERE BEFORE DA? Plays. The bounds for I'm laying Tom Plan on the job and. Supplies from that loss. I. Just on the wants me saying that your own mind is something a contract you often he's. He says he was just confident. Look compostion! Yeah, look. I think we all go before the court Saturday when you're already your last person to see. Reflection back. Zone comfortable. We we all say that community was very dismissing. Fitzgerald thought it was a foregone conclusion. That or that's dude. Subtle I'm being meeting failed these sterile. You know it was probably on his level. I think he was as good as. As. He said that he was overconfident and a good south. Leith is one of the crucial. Is To have book in replaces the overconfidence, definitely not good, you know he the cross from shore learn the lesson because I lost seats very putting folk so as far as. I'm sure it won't be recycled. He'll he'll make again. And See, looking forward facing Adam Harper he's had some ups and downs in his career. Only that one lost to mock was aretha. What do you know about an? How confident are you that you'll beaten? Adam happened either talked Eurofighter never been stopped. Only lobster us a good fighter, so can't look. Pass the ball to believe I. Am I am levels? For approval on the Nice thing the way he fights harper show planes. My Hands Really Nice because we've got one one game plan. Taika and I think it will planes my hands nicely. Barry in terms of. Domestic division super. Welterweight is up there with with any of the Scott. Fitzgerald dating with one or two problems outside the ring at the Ted Cheesman, we spoke about las week is plenty of exhausting. Break out there. One fight that gets overlooked all the time. Williamson another good kidnap. For. Hamza's Chirazi of the week. Good win and she said you can take away the top two broken smitheram. Take him out in the equation. The domestically James mccafe is this. It's a it's one of the highest situations in the country right now they're also makes it more exciting than people like Anthony is never short the challenge so every fight that he has been in will be a big fight. And say we're going to try something now. the potential for some international robberies during Lockdown Austin Amer. Williams coups to stir with the footage posted on social media of an overmach are in session. We spoke to Ammo last night's game. He saw story whether he's serious about challenging yourself. Actually. I didn't regret the whole thing because I had the understand myself in what was going on. Also to I've not exact situation. I knew that situation in entire the entire situation of what happened in gym and it got to that level also to as I said before my man objective, everybody knows. M. Oh I'm a guide at I got signed because knock people out matures, and I'm not people out sparring align nest honest. Truth I've been doing it and he goes through my feet. You can see me doing that. Through my career of the four years that I've been boxing so when I decided to do that when? One I had to realize that I was having a little bit too much pinup aggression as a fighter will if he has to sit now and. Not have to fight days like that. Then idea realize that he's not the top level Guy that I'm used to farm without us. Are World Champions? I'm used as far with unlimited things like that, so I really was just excited this Oh. Guys like I'm still that guy. Even though we went through this horrible Thanh of quarantine where we can train, and as far I've got better. Look at this hour so excited, so everybody you know went up done. It backfired. Be It when I got into clear mind I. got this exactly. Why prob-? Why decided to apologize because I. Look I. See the medic side and I also have not a pedestal that a lot of people hold me on. I had to this. Get a reminder with that. It was a very harsh reminder for myself, but also to. It was just reminded me. A double edged sword of saucer meeting. Blew up with the news and then that led to use. Her and look ago. Some names are disturbed. Erupt from the names just in case you haven't seen it I mean. Do you want explain it? Send! We didn't interview with. Just mentioned it I just said he had spoken to you about about the sparring at season, look while I'll give you an exclusive, or he's messaged me, and he read the message out which was was the effect of I'm not scared of anybody if you WANNA. Give me, Anthony Foul. Jumping we billy Joe Saunders maybe not yet, but I will not level. Anthony follow can get any sorts on. Yeah, and the that can be my next fight because you know what I respect every fighter I truly do respect every single fighter, but him I just feel like his style is tailor made for me is a robotic style is is is come forward. He has a lot of pressure, but I've seen this style so much especially down here in Texas. This style of fighting nets taught almost a fundamental style of finders. Style come forward style, so I'm always been groomed to take care of that type style also too i. don't like them as a person. When I was going through this whole situation, it was more people from the UK, begging me to beat him up. Then there was from said that they were signed with themselves like you're as trying to latch onto somebody else while they're dow and trying to make USOC Mike a good guy. Guy But a reality. Nobody even really likes you so anti Fowler. He's GonNa have to pay for what he said. He's going to have to pay for trying to jump on ammo. Hate Training and he's. GonNa be a dislike. Diego Corrales to mayweather for me as just don't be a stepping stone. I'll give his second Lahser if he loses before I. Don't know how give me the second loss in Alabama career to him. Because different of see, we're doing this late night here in the UK. He's on our show tomorrow. If you a direct message for him, yes, avid direct message for him. Thank you for allowing me to blow up even more as a boxer Thank you for. Seriously thank you for allowing me to blow 'em whereas a boxer lease a ready and train hard because when I fight I. Don't want any excuses. which you as to why not you out, and that's pretty much it. I'll let my the fighting. Do the talking I know. The people want to see that fight like I said before the powers in the people, so I know it's going to happen is going to happen. In Twenty Twenty one arkansas can say is preparing train. Hard stay focused. On say, did you catch all of that? Yeah! You just another loser American any like satellite wins decent names and he himself. To Putin this fight for Maya. From It for a still would smited doesn't just say. Money Policy adoptee balk symbol. Sounded really changed me. Coach on changes. Shane. OPS slops inside like. A few decent wins and we can fight them will eat a middleweight little way for wobble for you just on a mayhem name of yourself because. So now four or five fights, so we also the crew of at any level soya. What am let me self and I have my not. My face now fights thousand. It was all easy. You can get involved. You don't hyping and staffing. beatable Ozzy I learned. My lesson plans to settle them now I know. Nothing what it is inspired and it was. I have spotted with champions and I'm SPA really well? Against Symbol that means non spots in Yanni Georgia, so from fight nights and I haven't balked grace. If I'm to be honest, haven't really. Talked to. The levels of setup inspired into me. Fight so until a big. Little past anyone nowadays until. I thought level. He it defines one in the fight made that I'm GONNA be bothered. Getting paid right it's. It's a good five and shopping bill. I'm at the box, anyone. Did like. Barry laughed at the same point is ago. Nothing gets the kid, but if he wants to fill brushes. What is known? For Social Media Ones. This one's a super lightweight. To focus on you? What he was. Saying was. In, Co, was that you jump in on on the Amer William Tait train, and for the fact that he posted the sparring footage. What? What was it about? The the footage that you particularly disliked? Meant that that's like that's bullying. Left Mafia yet forty-five logical officers. Let like the. Way Things don't start liberties, SMASHANOVA open number codename and show your fund. It's thankful you're not to be honest. My opinion getting all books. And the gym. It's spot. There's no money involved. It's a violate helping to. They're not about liberties and be novel clearly. Boxer high level. Not You a particularly upset at the time when the late. Yeah I just thought it was palm on so many levels first of all to do it in the first place. That just limited tight bully. I was me levels below. Yeah, it's like. You're learning nothing from it. You're taking liberties in Greek white man to post it on social media I was like what possible reaction to the expect to get that he. was going to be seen as of a look at my Williams Z's. levels block connell stunt. Where even? On. Your is so back fashion look. People! Might Mistakes Ville affordable together. While, but that was wrong, did a break show. He realizes that now and hopefully love from me and not that again book. It's yeah. I think the whole anyone seen that which struggle to defend it. It looks like I'll be moving into the Brentwood Holiday Inn next week to join the bubble. That will be you joining as well in a couple of weeks. Tom, were you expecting? Nor obstructed world, not obligate unite little bubbles like a painter at Romania and stayed in a hotel on a motorway, saw donald oldest module from the an amateur show. They won't be not much different to me. It just belay. Finance business beget there we may highways we. We rescued trained. We asked you and we fight just business so I'm. It'd be the same as always. The. Lack of the crowd is particularly something that interests. Interests you mentioned international tournaments I'm sure they will have been times in. Deepest darkest has the John or or other European countries where you boxed in front of an empty hole. Slow bit different approach though is, is it something that will? Block a bit above. See A big ticket setup in Liverpool where you had the crowd behind g, you know anything about how might perform better, but the less President Hunter Shane but more than just. Like little accident more and finally safe. The crowd which sometimes I'm guilty off so I think of anything perform better. Be Honest. We us. We'll see come night. Before we let you go you joining stem of say. Downing Ken, an The Internet connection isn't great, but twenty twenty feels like in. Everybody's is a little bit of a Roy of, but we all getting going again now. How many times do you WanNa box before the end of the year? And where do you WANNA be? By the. Top at. The end of the year five cycle although off fight this shuttle now because of what's going on and his passing late full. Elizabeth one. This hop lodgings Makov achievement some. Of them, the a big fight, the Iowa. Because since the lowest I've fight weeklies, APP stole the Ba-. ME, progress, be mixed around Lake English tight level domestic level WANNA. We're not be recital and maybe defended once or twice and then push on. Because look at any. You needed eight pushing me now. Who Do you think wins? Ah cheesman and EGGINTON. I think cheesman got the scale on the Besse all-round box bill ziebel. Bags can make a despite the big game Latin. It's justified to be. She'll be vipul. A metall cheesman points twin. Barry. Foul Matt Would settle on any regnery livable. You going back to a James Dodson shady Buxton the Hologhan inattention in Liverpool that would be another fantastic for them to. Arrive dish libraries we live. Local locust you guessing if older. Guys you won't to give any grow. Also I think it'd be a fantastic. Just before we anthony, go your way someone that felt the. He was perhaps limited his is. Criticism, but it's not live performance by boiling down to superwealthy. Any perhaps. The idea that he could move up to middle. Is that something you still believe in. Yeah, do I think you know just because you can make certain Mike doesn't mean that you perform best out that way and everyone has an optimum why. Some people and really buying the could put on fifteen panel phone. Other people not so interesting that you know. It was boxing at seventy five kilos an amateur. No, you have the diaper Wiig Cetera. I just think he's. Really a big ladies, definitely beating strong enough to find a middle white. Adult he's the, he's not the quickest way going down to suit. While so I, though that little bit faster middle white it, he space. Because, they're not as quick because there are superwelter. that. From a physical point of view these very could strongly beat for the way I failed. It would perform as a middleweight. That's something that you've you've heard from other corners or Is. It ever become a consideration. Machine is obviously because you trying very hard, and because you're trained very hard, you. You're always in shaping you. Do Look Immaculate does. there. There can be no denying you massive for that. Yeah. I might say and do you think bean at other times making up wait for? It doesn't kill me. Kill me, but let me last by these up. For example shades. Give me a lot of chips with the other musicians involved in boxers, all just make the way way, and like I was making it okay. I was rehydrating like one, six, hundred, one, six four, so I was losing, not snap in the gym, performed Bass Delay, one, six, seven, one, six eighth. Shane's like really big underneath session Shane. You told me about the tips when affair like you said I ended England six eight thousand of side of me that I never put it on wouldn't. Golden slowed and cone three immune soften. Fight made with a little bit difference I like the way off and day before the way goes to the ring, last vitals at six, seven, six eight, and didn't show much. Not Fight because. Fight. They the fight of sauce. A lot more powerful, a lot more energy than what are normally feel like. And the I know is odd before the fights as you do. The Gym You Punch out in the gym. You nights of the fight against was because I was waiting one sixty six four, but now might make a difference I'm really that I in a behavior. Vitamin the ring at one, six, eight on a felt a loss of stronger. X Four pound going to play a big path and. Progressive Little better. Gathering over here, I won't like A. Concrete around Assu- showpiece way I'm Jim. which is really spokes of really really powerful for Iran's Flynn. Well, thank you very much for joining us Let you get back to enjoy the rest of your day. Train again, but August. The seven is back our against Adam Hall. Possibly look forward to seeing you then wish you the best in the build up to that. Giannis next week it all odds. Funk's pretty much of me. Take care. Thanks bye bye! Thanks very much transom fowler for us onto our. Next big personality Chris eubank junior has flying under the radar since the coral flights, the recently emerging Pensacola under the tutelage of Jones. Junior we thought we'd get to the bottom of the stories. I bravely gathered Roy was Chris Senior and junior together on zoom cool this week as you can imagine, it was entertaining, and so here's an extended into with three of them. We I asked Christina how decision to join not with Roy came about. Why because my son said. I think this is the man for me, and so I made a call to Roy. Someone who I have always admired I. Did know that he was a trainer I did new. Before Roy. S. My wisdom or my insight from? My experience. I've been passing over to him, but union needs someone hands on in the physical time spent with fighter in the gym is what my son needs. I've always been giving him the wisdom or the insights of the boxing, so roy at turns out if perfect and let me why. He has brains and he has speed. Now. I only have brains. Am I bring. It's got me as far as it did. Look. He beat James Tony and totally private privately for me, if one of the greatest middleweights of all time. But you see Jing's Tony was a technical boxer. If he only had speed and brings, which is why. You know if you remember that Fight Nineteen, ninety, four I think it was about. November the eighteen. Let me tell you Roy Jones. Played with him. and. Let me tell you James. Toney I. You know bowel to his skill sets I do Bautists, Gills and I know these two men. I was very very intelligent. Actually trying to unify titles with them because they were, they were too dangerous. Too Dangerous and really fucked. Bring you in that bucket. Ask You about the day that you received the call from Chris Sania what you'll remediate reactions to that cool Awesome Junior join it! First of all very excited is an honor. For another Rape Fighter Act food their son in your hands. That's a big order. Because he was a legend himself, calling you at alleged saying look I need you to take my son and try to to the next level. So for me, I felt like. I mean what better job get Bene- call. Could I get because now that I'm training? Fighters have had been trained by the. Except of few guys there was have not yet got to a point, so he's the highest one that I miss with besides. A dividend exhibit while they have been. So to get the opportunity to work with a guy who have a lot left in tank. Kabila also do the things they are infused into him. Is a really on a pleasure for me, so we act of it loud. This is pretty good. I've I've excited. At Santan. I get ready to go to start turning government media big okay logo. I wanted to seem jump see where he was, and we'll go from there Christiania what differences does Roy have to follow by both have oversight, great experience, great wisdom books, and but what differences does Roy Holidays not benefiting you? Way Is Trainer in the truest sense of the word, so he's with you day in day out. And he is. Working on things and he is showing you things he's and he's staying on on point times. My father's always been the type to. To Talk to tell you. An instruction what to do and then. Go and do it. I was kind of left my own devices. And, it did work. I love the loss of my father and I. Still Still Level Is Day with Roy. It's kind of is much more hands on every day and that's what trainer is you know a trainer is somebody who's that day at? They are what things over a course of months and years you know you. You're able to just off your game, just repetition. And that's. Definitely, something Roy instills repeating repeating thing they used to what on over and over again you. On Christina a how Howlett feel now having guided, you'll son for all these years. How does it feel now trusting another China even though he's a trainers experienced Roy. How would it feel trusting another man with your son's career? Will you able to resist? Providing your input from Johnston. With give my input of I do or ways to or fighters. June. has speeded. Roy has speed through there you have. The synergy, and if that can. He can actually. Catch on to Summer Roy's ideas. You know if he can be relaxed if he can be because he's good speed, so he has the tool something back again. You know the very small percentage appliances who have speed and these guys. You can't touch. It's actually not a fair fight. If not fair when someone is feed, it means they're throwing four punches to your one. You cannot beat them. No matter what you do the Julia now. With should be able to pick up something. If, he picks up five percents. That would be enough to see him through to the things he wants to achieve in boxing in my view and the great thing about what I've just said is that he's going to have to prove it, which is again why I'm so proud of him because you know as the stage of all stages, we are the glove use of time. and. He's in the arena. And the man has to have respect. He's earned it well. He's got my respect and for the rest of his career I hope Roy can give him. As I see. If you only get five percent from Roy. It'll be enough to to make him. BLUFFING, fly! Rule you in for being elusive an fluid mover, and we're now seeing some of those drills with Christiania on instagram on social media. Is that your vision of the box? The Chris Junior can become. Become the smallest version that he can. I don't want him to be out there tricking. GotTa, give it shots. I want getting hit noble. There needs to be. The necessary because oxen have to live. With his father has still has brim still looks. Like. He's supposed to do it because he's still functional functional a lot of guys after boxing. We're taking so much punishment not excellently more so I'm telling him. Did you don't want to go into gang leader, a functional one be able to function elite box. Limit the intake q a very small limit on. How often give you? My friend, they can hardly. Roy. Pin Sued input that Christina will obviously of course brings to the table. At some point a you will be a suit. At sorry you've. You've misspoken there I. Do not get involved. This Roy. Jones is Chris, eubank Junius trainer I. Don't get involved I always give my wisdom. But I'm telling him how to do anything you gotta remember. I, feel about. boy I asked you. In two thousand one, so it must have been able to fix. This was Naseem Hamed fight with their era I. Asked you if it was true that you said the only person I think would give me a problem as Cressey back. So you see the admiration I have for Roy as. My son used the word one day it was behemoths. It's huge. The respectful half of the man is huge in the man is revered in boxing on I. Rupiah. How could I not I love this art? Look this cursed. When you can watch it being done by a Mazda. It's a beautiful to behold. Christina such close relationship in you'll slicing Diana with Ronnie. Defend your son can build a similar talk of relationship with really hit I. can only pray and I do, and I pray that he does he's he's moving to A. Beautiful Part of the world is Pensacola edited. Yes it's different is is is a lifestyle that I'm. Used to, but I'll end west relaxing, it's. Your, free. Time to focus on what you supposed to be about. which is what I want I don't want to. You have so many distractions here in the United Kingdom and in Vegas and the these. Hot spots he aware he is. He is Roy as strict Mr Jones as strict and this I love, because it's a strict extreme and integrity that gets you the results you want, and he's in that environment and so again yes, I'm I'm very, please. We mentioned this wonderful time in the nineties, the Super Middleweight, division. I have to ask you. Because the boxing funds will meet you. Ask you whether whether negotiations was ever a possibility for Christina and Roy to meet in the ring. Was it ever a possible? I don't want to appear arrogant because I'm not arrogant. Irrespective of what they may have told you that you're. Like Roy I use my grease I have brings, and I never had to him because he was number number one contender for the WB championship of the World I was not mindless enough to go looking for something that I couldn't. achieve he see to fight. Boy was I would've thought him. If the one contender I would have had to integrity wouldn't allow me to dodge him, but as champion be Oh and him being IBS. Forced to it's for us to make the choice whether you want to unify. And that! How do I put that? Would that that was? That was a very building I chose not to climb. Decline that building. Yet Roy. Let me. Just look at you from afar and continue to Miami. Because that's what I did. So Barrio continue I really interesting link-up. Really Work Eubank, junior and Roy Jones Junior. Seems to really Jones. He was such a tremendous athlete more than anything else. I can't seem understanding when someone can't do what he could do. A lot of these great don't make good trainers don't even try to. Get across the to you. Bite you Khwaja for the elusive Jump into tax. Chris looks to do. It was no fighting on the planet the Royal Junior. Surprise attacks you so fast in time offensive, so that may be can help. Just don't know whether the frustration in the commitment from someone like Roy Jones you would be would be what what you meant with need yeah. I. Might trip to Pensacola so he hasn't stayed. In. Vegas where he was before expose Chris. Senior Matt says if he takes five percent in of what Roy Jones says to him. It will be a success dog if you take him one percent. Yeah a bit like Barry alluded to that some of John's. Who so gifted athletically. Thinks he can do naturally. It doesn't even think He's just so blessed. Let's play. That's spayed. Explode reflexes. When Roy Jones on a bit, old reflexes slowed down loopy. It wasn't anywhere near the same a you know what I mean. It wasn't tight for example. Someone like James Tony. Who Win The reflecting over? You still slip ring was still sleepy, blocking iron shots landing cubes off I. Mean I. Don't know Roy Jones so. Or so clever or so intelligent, during he was just some key feed, athletically we speed. Time in explosives that Kinda thing and of course also, what's patients going to be like? In terms of being the game every single day on a bright and these particular points could buy across when someone that. Someone is trying to take him, but he's not athletically as blessed. Just might not be able to do it so I. Don't know if it's going to be a success, not I think we should by June musical fire off. Of. You don't think he's a super middleweight of the he four. George grow could say that. Was My competitor yet. He took some big shots of gross albeit subs of his Haas toughness. Juniors royal there in that sense. He just needs to worship and build the technical guy. Can Get to you? You know this does not mean fire. Certainly, you're white that he won't. Overwhelm. Say this. Tongue in cheek, but there's some big who's in that camp. You put them all together I just wanted to. Eight will even be a stroke of genius, or it could be A. The, Roy would. It could be tricky. I think the same thing I think is going to be a holiday cake nonsense, and it's just going to be terrible performance, and it's going to be Celtic, or they'll just be perfect. I don't think it's going to be in. Your. Is One of the other can't can't see that being a calm middle ground. You've got a lot of a lot of things. Is I think a lot of skill? Is, inherited decides toughness which is fantastic. He hasn't the basics of boxes for me. 'cause again another kid who was just classic and I'm really fans a good punch. Things getting close. An altitude should. Never have to do remember I'd call the most of his earlier fights would. He was blasted people that need. Ruthless and he's a fantastic. He wasn't learning anything. And then when he comes up against someone like groves, actually big lots already said but then. Looked lost when he was when they pushed him on the ropes, he's what to do. You just use his toughness to get him out of trouble. which is a great asset? How? When you get to the highest level that April Punch agents. Fuss I'd also another new you genius is I've never seen the like. Every tolls a punch. It looks like the have you your life, but I'm not sure if he is the habits put Ya. It's the weirdest thing you look at those shots and just go. He's excited it. Dynamite in every shots somehow really lacks the power they get to. This is what what is. It looks explosive by not show whether the. You've mentioned. How tough is it? The Toll Matt can junior win a world title at Middleweight Super Middleweight bugs very very competitive at world level. May Not, middleweight right. Now you know we. Can we can I cannot middleweight super middleweight we don't know. Any guess with Cannella. Heavyweight. Ranking three I don't think being Elo. Could Charles maybe China's good fight soon. Get Hot as well. You, June you got good. Cheney's buried, so he's stamina were great. Volume Punching. You know you're going to put him up. Bad Bucks. Those lack that little bit I suppose fundamental basics you know amateur background you. Closing the distance Tommasi outbox so the. Let's him bound book in in terms of physical specimen, eat most Barry mentioned the early commute through. He just Ogle well-known with his work right with these physical attributes book. I don't know that top top level Clever good boxes while. At the saints. baboots get ahead of him. Because since then the second half of the point when it comes to grates, he definitely those close it. Just I don't know I'm not sure he'll be there or thereabouts I the white suit by announcing he's beginning of. Last thing on that Chris Senior also addressed why he never faced Roy Jones junior in the ring. He described him as a tool building. He was not desperate to climb Barry. Lovely way of putting I wasn't stupid. I knew I. Knew The level allowing I think he's a hint that mentally he was on the same level was physically speed-wise. Reset the word fluid than elusive. He couldn't match him, so you could say that was very sensible Christina. Though the honesty Alabama because he just said I'm going good, and that's that's. That's honest, and he's right, but I think he was lucky that he could moment. He walks in fires just below Jones Nudge abandoned Steve. Collins. Enable they're fantastic. brake light is. Still at that time they will level. Blue, will Jones you even. Even sending special. We should. Maybe you have a conversation about if would it a top three listed? On. CITES under the show because I've got my vengeance. Even way we put. Of these are all picks. People are saying well whereas Mike. Tyson can only have one heavyweight. Yeah, but you should have my choice in what you're gonNA. Put Watson above all. Did you not listen to the show? What are we doing on? An thank just don't get me started on it I'm glad that. We get this old work. I don't I. Don't know how you do it. I. Mean the next thing to link to social media. You must have seen Switzerland meltdown with the picture of fury and Joshua together remark by a math. You know more by very well massive place. Avenues, you could be walking along and bump into each other questions. Real all mocked up nothing real I unaware. That is and that you see people that will is. Like Saints Pool You. Get pulled pass, which obviously fury as you draw in distance back report. She's a Bah a lot of. Speak beginning are over while Chevron. Arctic cozy. Sports Bra on the on the back. End is living, so that's quite a lot amid Larry Rate, so it's very very a large plate that. Would fat so I. Genuinely think it's Jay Walk Right so. It really got people to Kim and I. Suppose that's the first roofing that it sparked over there bumped into each other I mean berry. Apparently, he was just walking wrong. And Fury Rose in these line. Arrange over and says oil. I mean you can't write. Books is mental. It would only applesauce infuriates. It would it would show trouble in a find shot to stay discreet. Impossible cameras will find him whatever he goes in, and if he's trying to avoid Jesse, she's not opposed. into. This purpose publicity to build the fights. Happen to you know I did notice the size of Joshua's arms I I take it. They will take it. They really Josh Kerns aside pitcher and it looked just like in from the side, but the answer so huge massively believably big any. I I saw I. Mean because it's a very cruel pitcher of David. Price it into a massive. And I always since you always look a photo, you think that's not real. I have to say Seora AJ someone of made in bigger, but they don't sell stories circulating different places. It is a real photo we're we're not we could. It was brought up. I Think. It was mocked up. Some people said must have. They must moving on the other, but. Yeah, I was to the only. Couple, more before you go. The Camilo opponent saga. Pandemic annot that they calm. PABST do too much because nobody really knows what the state play is Bob. We've gone from video soon before. Lockdown procedures, founders days away from announcing it to everything's off the table to Egmont, cal Smith two, one, five, nine, hundred, which Jason Quigley which we spoke about briefly lost week, and then now count. Smith's can come back and said. Chris McKenna in install saying Count Smith is one of the from his will is happening. What is the truth? Does anybody know? It will save to be pool. Camello, get a cash tower boxy. You can make any fault. You WanNa make relay you. If you put your hand, many might happen on. It just saves on narrow easy abusing his power as the cash cow a little bit. You know just make the following. Everyone can kind of the number one superstar boxy, some good fights there, but he jokes on this from a stall from a stylistic point of view using a lot of problems. That's a great void that we like to save jobs. undefeated world champion to whites as well got to be one of the front runners for the fights also callum smits huge lights. George Growth Stop George grabs that's. Very dangerous risky fight for canal short cubby. One of those you know of course back Miami Raleigh to Miami vice quickly. I'm not sure either. Those silence while David South is is selling even a possibility now. With dissolves, not hike. View is going to be no light guy. They just want to get the cheapest opponent to try and get out the way moves. Be Thing I. Don't know he's just GonNa, be bored of it, I think everyone else. Is a very interesting point meeting with company. Go into it too much because we're not privy to information, but there is something with these the biggest names in boxing. It must be very difficult berry for promote to put them on without live gay and get the money that they might want an annot that I. don't really understand that so I had I. don't understand it I. Don't get involved in that side of it, but someone like canal. Someone my age A. It must be very difficult. That's where the promotes presumably after get bit creative. You can pick up on that you want. You can have your say on who you would seek. I? Don't know if if canal has a say about. Maybe this is the be. How will we for the for the project for the for the event? So you've got gotTa Take X. amount if we gotta pay on the patrolman how it worked. I can imagine you know the cheap important Woodson quickly. We'll just be happy for the unity and I'm going to be a fight they want to say. A national if I'm the only one who wants to see him, go off again. You're absolutely not. You tweeted and I think two hundred percent on see every day of the week. I'll see if they five times watch it. I thought this is a massive thirty this summer think he would win. stylistically than to fight in a million times, would be a million fights. They just they could not, if Starch Gel perfectly even though golf. Down I. Just think that's that's a great fight for me but their. If we WANNA see. Joe Songs is probably the one I'd like to see the most 'cause like a cream. Vigil with his Daddy. Best is movement. We gave Connecticut a few problems catastophe. John Rider. We live a place in my hats, and collectively enough against against Smith. So if if he can get a fairy tale fight, they would just be. A magic auction house in Spokane gives you like Steve Robinson in the nineties now where? He was working in warehouse, the nine pound dollar and then. We'll talk with today's not snow up in the Northeast and goes on a massive. Seven successful defences. Getting getting the biggest fighter on the planet in the ring with him. Could use. That's where it is unique, and that's why I think. We love it so much. Hopefully just talk about in in Gaza, and it's not a guessing game lost one show. Cameron has signed a multi deal with Mattru this week. there was a lot might win. We would chopping and changing opponents kate. Taylor that Shanto Cameron could be one of those as as it turns out. She isn't but she is a real danger name. How impressed have you seen? Have you seen any of a? Good edition from entering. Yeah, look she. She's getting on the Roy ship, isn't she? You know she wants the Florence She's getting onto the what she would. They be our lot more possible other on the easier to be made. She's you know she's looking perceived. She's she's really. Roydon crest of a wave, and as long as she keeps winning appreciable on shop. Barry, if you see much until yet I worked on the field, but last flights of last five taxi and she looks solid. She does not the movement. Maybe a tena or I think by the way. is fantastic. Don't think she get any better. Would you know I think? She's good enough to rain, or the climb will stotts, whom I think for Casey data. Just she the so wrong, such amateur career. She needs to capitalize on while she has always maintained in our ever. She can't as long as you can. Efficient cameron she saw department, and she's strong willows boxes. winning. To get thirty to win. She had taken shelter. Give shots. She has a plan and patient Jamie in a corner as well as an aggressive himself. I think this is a perfect mix follow. The fighting walks like him, but always is always look into a solid ruby. The job never looking to move away was looking to every punches. Move you back the sexual bigshots and she's really good them. I think she is a danger and I I think that. Is, the is the fast like we could see. Hey, Taylor soon we'll in women's boxing, but chantelle cameras is the one I think going to want to avoid if you. Agree with that great sign from trimmed APU to see her in action soon. Is everything for this week. gents enjoyed. I mean we should. We should just touch on the scuffles. Walks since even if you put it in capital was in the description, you can only have one Pfizer age white close people still. Have a row about it like you can win. How do you? How do you deal it I? Read the comments and I was just like we couldn't made the rules of the game. Any clearer couldn't let medical what Iran didn't struggle with struggle. TIMES, I've watched on TV. swooning wrong speaking Spanish people don't even speak Spanish back. That's not buried. That is not me I couldn't I couldn't have couldn't have. Enjoyed any less was awful experience. Life while you're gonNA give you have to public opinion. You got criticizing. People on social media and it's just a lot of. Your. Just. Knock on. I almost almost started reasoning paid for about. Have you not read the rules? You can't you can't. Oppressing. Concert but fully people that did have a look at it and agreed in this group. Thank you for those of you that started saying. How can you don't have Hagman's on well? Economy by got pick on EGO. Go pick one over in the moves to the guy jarred frazier, someone said how can format? Heavy. Rose and Watson CALICO connects crucifying. Because, go out there and. Say Am can't wait to get to the Brentwood bubble of Brentwood. Hold on in next week. Rub Anyway. Thank you very much for joining us. My Agassi receive ringside next week. Yep, whites, Barry. Hopefully we'll be seeing you in the flesh sometime soon as well I'd be tuning in folding and he'll be about a fantastic show. Thank you to join us. Thank you Nancy Fowler for treating in as well. Remember to race on I tunes and. Join US next week in remember stay safe. The boxes back next week. So make sure you tune in.

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Josh Warrington plus Fury & Brook latest news

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Josh Warrington plus Fury & Brook latest news

"I'm not Goldie, and if you're not, you're so spicy listen to told SOPA. Cost. Anger. Welcome to this week's edition of Ringside totes tow a boxing podcast exclusive to Sky Sports? I'm Andy Scott I'm joined by Adam Smith and Barry Jones. Hello to both of you guys how you doing. Good. Thanks. Andy. Keeping safe from well as. Looking, good. Thank. You keeping. Round. Good. Make you. Happy and the weather's Nice. So lots to be thankful. Look Continue. Well, let's get straight to very special guest. This week is the leads warrior Josh Warrenton Josh Greats have you with us. I. Think I I. It's been a little bit of. Weeks, really since we spoke t lost on the box in show when we arrived in the midst of the pandemic, how everything with you and your family? Are you you still bearing up? OKAY UNHEALTHY YANKEE CAN WEALTH KEEPING Giving surfing share spending time with with the GAL, which is, which is being very nice boy GonNa to be on this real. Last. Few months being really. Pecking away the facts of. The scenario that would in originally this is everybody. Not. Just in boxing just as FAW in all different walks of life. A on now, all of Stein said dwell on what could have been where we could be more more likely will debate into a second camp final boredom second five able. Like I say I've just got to. Realize I am of still gonNA will tile. You know we finally all rallies healthy in pay and You know just gotTa enjoy these moments and try to. Keep. It was as possible and just know that it will all get back to some kind of normal. So we know. Perfect let's just pause there Josh because we'll come back to that. Some really interesting things that you said there and with a view on the return and what might be happening next let's go straight over to Adam because Adam. Of Flight Count, than we've had the the law on the quiet daybreak for now. Finally, it looks like they some structure being announced to from. Now until Christmas you've got big news for so exciting few weeks in the diary. Very much. So felt fine camp was a spectacular, wasn't it? It looks amazing and most importantly the fights great one and the the fact that the boxes come come back now is Josh says, it's been such a frustrating time for through the athletes, the men, the women, and we got an absolute humdinger as we want a bit of everything didn't we in? The four weeks of of fight Cambe leading up overseas the Katie Taylor pursuing a wight gazette can night which some finale in editor chatted and we wanted about whether to sort of carry that on through September we thought we'd leave the party at its highest and then sort of reset as you said, sort of reflect, look back and go again and we've. Come up with a what we think is a terrific sort of autumnal period going towards Christmas as well. What was announced this week is is is big news. I think first of all an immediate rematch between AVEC white Delia wanted we saw him half an hour after the the fight and he wanted then he wanted know the day later the wheat. Later and obviously Alexander Perfection has to take that. So it was an amazing wing for the being Russian and you know so many questions about what will happen in a rematch. We know we've got that lined up now through November twenty first. So another massive heavyweight fight for the year when big Pfizer I it's difficult these. Andy. Without the gates with the. About a financial impact in Joshua no because so many tickets, e- cells up leads is it's really difficult and for Eddie to be able to have got the first fight over the line and now the rematch I think that's that's pretty good. Sky Sports also will be treated some really good line-ups coming up we've got the world boxing super series final of goals. With daughter Kussin us of that's happening. September the twenty six really good fight that October. The fourth we're GONNA go Sunday night with Joshua Blatsis. Return on nights is exciting fighters of goals that we have. He's with Marco challenged the unbeaten Croat to Allen Babich forty lot in the images the nose. Well, Babich also on the COB Sean Cameron coming back to fight. For a world titles are really excited about that couple of weeks later October the sixteenth for Newcastle Lewis Rich and Miguel Vasquez a fight. It was meant to happen some months ago that well, and also Savannah Marshall steps out to fight for a world title against Hanna Rankin who goes to shed the ring with Congress Shales Savannah promised not well title back in. April. So a really good time for women's boxing as well as the man you know very, very exciting times and it'll be more announcements coming soon as well on my mind a little bit because we'll see I worked for the same company is Adam, but some of that is news to me as well. So I'll go straight to you bury walks in super series. Against Unbeaten Croat. Lewis Richardson it gets Miguel Vasquez vacuum want to what straightaway jumps out of see John. So. Cameron Savannah Marshall Briefing. World. Titles respectively what jumps out to you Barry I think because of what happened the first have? In what because I think we all fancied white to be dominant because he was on his last legs and and even if it didn't look the fastest I think he still is maybe on the on the slight decline he still show that he's of the operators I think that's a and also we've seen rematch before with the heavy weights. David price was a perfect example where they've taken that immediate rematch and it's worked against him. So it's a it's a it's a real risky fights and to not have a time to digest what brought possibly just to go straight back in says a lot for why not the risk. Of Ping interest and a lot of people but any anything involving Joshua. Brazzi not excites me I. Think he's a he's a real talent. You'll feel it's impossible for them not suitable maybe an also because he has a couple of real domestic rivals already told will level in his way class makes. A real interest in mixture is hitting. It gets up it early next year Mila. Next year than him, Academy, Johnson and. The ad that always always tied together that's only A. Trio. Shrill about ten minutes into the PODCAST, the Adam hasn't mentioned Liverpool Leeds. So Josh Warrington. have. Moment. Let's get it out the way because he's saying that look at the Cheshire Grin on atoms face George George have you have you platform on? told him that leads were phenomenon I mean see pan stuff we're going to be exciting this season Josh got really good young side great manager as well. You know and and three goals us at Anfield no bad stop all of us all of them and you know off in. A few. Neutral football fans may have been this. Seem religion. Many. Religion I found not surprise whatsoever. You know we've been playing. So my intensive football some. Real. Good football. Play as a loss two years now demoss OB also. Only, as it goes playing football, each individual player is to a new level as like kind of like a fight other struggling domestic. Guessing trade and all of a sudden the combat in there and the knocking guys out in the showing all kinds of skills. That's what master will be also as dome take, CRANSTON'S COBB Phillips a few season ago. So late funds recalling frames to be shipped to waste, would we don't need him at the club all the guys? Got England cut now and. Believable what of donor and it's exciting times and been able to pull free plus Liverpool. Penalties waiting get no doubt. Say It all the same light polly. West I'm by not suspects to them to war. We free loophole I'm show we're going to do our own with woodland that later in the season before we get onto the box, have you met the ozone a personal everywhere got any chats with him. Seems like a terrific love to be a fly on the wall I. Don't know if you've watched any of the spurs nothing documentary just imagine if they had cameras on bill. Sorry in the changing room man. I wonder what? On a one to one basis, the apathy is is actually the second. Coming out. The on Amazon says. The film last season in the film Logan this season is based probably worth a watch able. Yeah which I'm speech of. A few of the players and they'll tell me why like a boarding met him fulltime self it's always been briefed. German games in the off time, and if I were on the pitch down eleanor, One moment in particularly after the call from. And I was waiting in the Soles GonNa Pitch in the bell over the shoulder and made a thing as soon as say me because he walks like resent down, it made sure we could. Shoot me on them. Give a few bows. Won't show. sociably. Will tell you themselves is not the more sociable person the world, but when it comes to being on the pitch in football. is an absolute genius if you don't mind lockdown from one super positive to what presumably is going to be a negative start bringing down but you saw talk shit the very top of the show they're just walking the what you'll mental state is when you're looking at your box in a moment the. He does that phrases in them at McLennan was use it control the controllable but at the moment, everything seems to be out of your control we saw. new deal with very hand and match room with the promise of big things in it just hasn't worked out that way. Way ritual mindset at the moment. Lack abdomen in this not. Stop. Recording a vase You know US your moves out they're not. As mentally strongest as anybody is bolt. IAGO while these doubt she around these tapes and and you're GonNa think could obtain Like you say side of real positive year Saddam invented laid out a good plot of walks. Up and over the next three five. They they're. real excited. Felt like it or even I mean I mean the pecan create absolutely posing position made The Fighting world titles in big talks of Unification an idea rain-free defense his mom talking about fighting fall magazine Bell some vulnerable inbox recognizable by ring magazine is this is A fairytale. So Inbal I'm absolutely loving every single baby I mean it feels like two minutes ago since Adam was in a nick managers Jim Gay balloon for the that is to bear on I and and I just come away from small shows on Komo from Woodbridge I, and all the sudden like I. Say. You know. We didn't get into the very pinnacle of us all and a seem as though from February than you know when signed over big attention, this is way it's going to be note big five's now we know the next few years memories going to be. This way to foreign goes from just being day some five from the UK able known worldwide. ECZEMA legacy not just far from leads. One of the best at worst commodity. UK. ongo was I felt real refreshed Donna fear will change the woman team as well. So everything's impulsive, and then obviously we're getting to the stage where we molly Scott the the. Fire Line and Alexei rebels from line and then. You know the pull of the plugin. Initially. It didn't sink into and around six or seven weeks into lockdown on it was it was a case of light but elder, we are actually going to be fighting sometime soon or carried on train carried on waking on on certain things in Jayme just only own sake himself in. Working on a leftover. Job Working on a combination thinking that this is going to turn into a positive and then you know seeing the shows get underway in may be really really H. Ugly like watching watching the boys of the way like, for instance, cheesman fight and. then. Can performances is of the bucket of that kind of stuff on I'm watching them bars. Follow him but I'm also shot a box thinking I count way to your back in. This is what we want to be policy nobody wants to be these nice and and then started well on what could have been. You know I've Seen A. Few. Folk recently after new lockdowns being loosened in. Fuming not and you know when when the weather's been nice outside, Nepal city. munching how boozing leader being you know twenty four, thousand light I'll go on and on. On pitcher day may item visualizing visualizing like a used to befall the celebrate five you know visualizing people walking along right lane lay then and you know drive their unification pulses all over saying and then it's not make able. It, she wanted them things and I guess you know the way that I look at life is a. Copy to. Some good welcome eventually and lots of Maine to be there for it could be. Of this year and then Ningxia new chapter, I will. Bring the other guys in some Aaron questions just just the most recent update wh. What was the last conversation you had with? Your Majesty would at the Permits Ready Hon. Would you be prepared to sit out. Full fans to come back if the opportunity comes and there's some sort fight camp thing where there are no fans for anyone would you get involved in? Other. Saying say. Start like style lockdown. Prepare to work because obviously, the founding a massive poverty US by created the being apologetic obviously atmosphere remarks the. Nausea, career over over their six. Many spoil. stage. Twelve months since out plus billion Meridian. It all molest by was around off if that defied fallout would eventually much were with Kid Galahad. So really drove lay is paying a long time since a lot swelled competitive rounds and. Is inspired you can keep yourself Jimbo does no come prepared for you know in the little lighthouses on Green Ghost and all lost also a stage where is want to get back out I won't rebounded lies. You know I'm twenty nine now. I'm old by initiative connection brought up up up in a pro years now. This is this peninsula like I said, this is the this is my. By my golden years and I want to be bothered big nice. Is a big fight right then I'm willing to such. A hit on among I. Only five packages to get out to the ring. You know like I say thinking in my thin uses. I five money for their. Winning over bail outs to voluble net midnight you and things get back novel crops to combat that reward. All I'm saying. The boys like Dylan. Okay. Second go and in. Our in a second end this year. Mommy I mentioned to go you know. Young boys for Barak through and giving performances and no I get inspired off. In the guy's not going out and doing that business and especially the last we. Just want to get buckled die. So if the opportunity does come up to do close. All thing than a shoulder considerate. Adam, do you remember where we were when you got the message say in tomorrow's announcements going Josh warrants in back to mattress than usual nearly hit the floor and he said that's the one thing we've missed those great leads nights with the fans and everything like that. It just feels like a Pfizer's that. Have suffered the most during lockdown in terms of fighting of the AJ stadium fights. Yeah. That's a big thing in fury of see with. The fans as you think but outside of that, you'd have to think that this look down the fans not being along stadiums. He's GonNa hit Josh just as much as anybody else. First of all, as you said, how surprise you with some of the announcements made at the beginning my jaw dropped because I didn't know that Joshua's coming back to match room and I know everything from Eddie or or I thought I did so I was so surprised and so pleased you know we would offer that story as he is. He came through as he said from the small holes are going up to see him and he's having tickets out of these remind me of a young ricky hats in you know the passion. That he had around the city and Leeds. Is a great place in joke about a liberal leads get action my dad's from leads and you know it's a it's a fantastic sporting city and the fan base is got is incredible but unfortunately, this time it, it's the fans that can't get out that which must be so difficult. You Know Josh Love, the attitude that he wants to go back, they'll take a cut to get back in the ring and you know we have to be adaptable in this scenario it is already tricky. As we've seen some of the big fights just hasn't been asked. Me made on both sides of the pond because of that lack of gate we. Divide Josh the other day we desperate to get him back out but you've gotta remember be twenty twenty-five Thousand Headingley or ever to you to to cheer him on and see to put to put money into the fight. So it is very difficult and it's a case of maybe now that has been a long gap for jaw. She just needs to get back into the ring and shed a and take that risk, and that's what these fights doing. Now they're taking the the hard matches you mentioned Eggington Cheesman, you know Sam devastated lost that the both come out with huge prior look at Terry Harper and Tasha's Jonas you know many of us Tash Nick that. One but both of them come out with you know with with another fight plan probably in lot of respects and I love the fact that the fight is the going back in even without the crowds and that totally dedicated and they're totally one hundred percent focused. So I like to see Josh back out before the end of the year I think that fight stood out loud big unification beaten in thirty and I think this is the chance now maybe just to roll the dice take that unfortunately for the family on his kids now but maybe it is just getting that getting that the bell getting global attention and as he said, he must be really Irritated the others are getting sort of a shot at it. It's only because there's no crowd because I promise you if leads was a out right now we be right out there this week. So it's very tricky but it's a case of keeping himself mentally and physically right knocking on the door maybe adapting and let's get an out before Christmas with. Furry, I'll raised an eyebrow when I saw Gary Russell Junior linked to Devin Haney in back and forth on social media. Did that surprise you as well? Because you know the fat guy. So it reflecting is shock. Eighty seven years but. Hurry good fights is he's a great fighter where he Is. He's a phenomenal fighter, but he's wasting his career I think he's not being active enough. Justice Justice. Frustration of. Control moment. That's just industrious. irregular courtesy forget he junior but the fact that he wants to jump to lates is a bit of a shock to me. That I. Big names, neutral the IMF gary. Russell because he eakins onto the UK. You'd have experienced before. The in goals in a packed arena or Stadium. We'll even never see that in his lifetime because. They don't have the same in the states as we have it here they don't have that sort of. Golden, up the home the home crows no thing that we have from. A joshes. Did come. Out. And announced I feel with the audience with home crowd. So it's a rare thing for them. The the Americans don't have that. So I thought why would you WanNa step away from a fight which prima much seemed inevitable at some point. But yet another talks. Absolutely. Got An emotional. Honestly. I just you know. Five Year and. Chooses. When he comes around goes around Selah cruces Dabke puts his arm around and giving it big up. Can you imagine him doing it to my? I want to be a big fight over to become Jew, would it be Guy Real Selah main the Levada everyone is dogs been calling me out of. My fellows from a domestic level. Some light junkins in different way I mean Jerry McDonald's calling out a few weeks ago. Who wants to shop boy at the same time? I WANNA be these big. Nice. These big vice obviously like a mandatory steelers well, for the county zoos the Gary Russo Juniors, the off Stevens aways. I'm willing to chase of that and just to be parties big nice in and and they big fights listen Guy Russillo talks whatever. They won't see each just saying only stuff to to to make noise for himself because no examining for the Fella. He said that he wanted to sign a flight crew food which of A. Well where are we going what we doing? He's about five foot two. You know what I mean He. So, as call always be mentioned pumps with Devon Hannah's as well as Gamboa's but I'd like to see you with Gary Russell's Josh. I. Think I think he's a good fight whenever you think of him as a person I think he's a good fighter I think he's classy about one lost launer. Yes. Is Berry says he's been an active but I think that's a big name I for you because he's American, he's got he's no over there and people know him as a quality operator I think that's a good the. Most most is A. got. Boxing skills he has got the speed. He's got up and Southwest Donald both you look at winning box Joseph. George tells only started very slow a win the second half of the fight came into it. All Jaws Thousand Law Success I think Gary is always performed well when when. When he's at his own ways on his own pace when he's being allowed to work. Take that away from him, you know, take that distance away, take them a tax away from S- people not coming in straight lines like Akiko Martinez. Then all the sudden different families than listen inactivated fight once a year not being them hard pushing fights. It's GonNa take. It's also listen I would be surprised for me to go out to stop any I. I'm not confident that five is well. Defined with the Zhou obviously that where appealed to ideas in else fares because in the gaze of proof on punches in his last fights and I've I work. Great. So ball is repealed into the farms to be fair. Or should not with agreed in the green and gold belt. A. The model peace. With some of the fights over the big name, Big Name Fighters Commission moved up to super founded. 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Now, all the big stoppages in the devastating performances common when it really was your life dating light you know French whereas an an unpolished votes we way when it really matters. What is up Kale percentage really mean nine so you know I, am GonNa wear it long way I'm very bull I think good stead and. That's why I still a straight nausea at twenty. I stayed. Among Freshman I'm afraid to nine years old want. Absolutely. Look. Look Amazing for two twin girls at the only. On not to that, we started the project. Adam Smith's next book is called someday the Statue Sundays. You're the pigeon, a story of just warrant. That, she brings us to the end your segment. Your say, thank you very much for joining us. Really, interesting. What you sign at the top there I think speak I go is. Office crossed I, really do hope see onto the bright lights and if that is under the bright lights sets this fans there and if not twenty twenty, one backup in late always much northbound Jewish is you're? Right, it's time for our weekly roundup of the latest books news and who better to get the answers from the top ranked president told the birth. Up taught on Mondays, to Canelo Brooke v Crawford Firstly, a possible December turn the gypsy King Tyson Fury. I think I think we're looking at December December, the nineteen nineties, Vegas. One of the places that would be a high priority to do it and That's where we are. I. Mean I I think we've we've been very flexible and fluid and I think we all are in the entertainment and sports business about starting dates or you know just having to move in having flexible frank that they'll give you a dozen happen in December regards. The new he wants to fight and you'll have to guide in the guy in December so they wanna get teary backout is not real thinking shape or something I think I think there's I mean I think Tyson I think everybody has been largely frustrated with the situation not just limited to Tyson wilder or or any Joshua or pula who's also been sitting on the sideline. Will Fight I. All the athletes have a mean Lohman Shaneco. It's been over a year since he fault. Another world class fighter that's been sitting in the next fortune is going to be fighting in October. So you listen we're all in the same place and I think what we're all trying to do is work with what our jurisdiction has worked with what our restrictions are and get the guys back in the ring was quickly as possible. So percentage tons. What are we think December? Ninety eight in Vegas with Iraqi. December the nineteenth I'm not going to give you a specific location this point but I think I think December the Nineteen Is a fair day to say that we're GONNA you're Marcus. Before the end of the year and I think he gives us some time to put everything together earl. What? Happening T cannot out Alvarez goal. Sleep. Big Litigation role suits against golden boy designed today that's being cold some issue and will end up in a on an in a in a happy agreements around you know you guys get a communist BBC GonNa. Currencies. Wrapping well, so what she will take right oversee looking from the outside of Muslim. Great, theater. I Don I listen I read the lawsuit was he was a terrific greed. During vandamme that does not bad the zip back and read the paperwork. It's you know listen it's it's not the first time a network of promoter in a fighter have been at odds. And there's some clarity to it. So I don't want to speculate on what I think because I'm only as knowledgeable about the situation as you are. I think you know Kello is obviously probably one of the biggest attractions in the world a great fighter terrific fighter and the marriage between. You, know you know the smart thinking disowned to get somebody that could draw much attention, the United States and and really had been moving the pay per view needle here with was a terrific play by what the economics were behind. That is a different story and how they got out is completely different story. I. Think WE WANNA do is we want to see him back in the ring because his window of opportunity as a as a math leak it smiling smaller I think it'd be great to see him back in the ring and fights and real solid fights because he obviously elevates scored for all of us. About Cal Brooklyn and terence cruel had right fights at him at the right time is I guess you for that massive with Errol Spence Yeah I think you know Terence's as the same thing that he's just a brilliant fighter. You know to me one of the best finishers I've seen him boxing in the last ten years when he gets somebody heard, he's Gotcha out. Brilliant Smart in a great weight class. I think dispense accident kind of put that thing a little bit on this side because I think it should have happened this year anyway I, think. So you have spend accident plus you have a pandemic so. The welterweight division is going through those two guys I think Terrasson in the we've we're having some advanced conversations with him in Brooklyn I think it makes sense for both fighters send. We're we're iron the November date if we get that done, but then to bed. Remember Fool Jason in Vegas is not likely. You. Guys are great with your information has been November. Fourteenth is a earmarked as a date. Location as of now could be is is Las Vegas and. With a studios type of environment you know there's been some talk of possibly going to Omaha where he's from in having a broken down version of studio an intimate setting some fan. So we're weighing all of that I we got to see if we can put the match together in the Mughal with the venue. Adam I don't know if you've seen it with your own noise but the pictures of that new venue in Las Vegas which is being pencil for the nineteenth of December for fury were three is unbelievable. What charts did you actually give it though to going ahead? That's the the big question is an Andy Allison. It's a fantastic new home for for Las Vegas but I talk to on. Last night at great length about Vegas and you know the entertainment capital a place the British fight fans of have known for years going over with Ricky. Hatton, before those mayweather and Pacquiao fights many times sense and it's a it's a special place isn't net for for for boxing and but the city itself you know it's It's been a very difficult time for the Las Vegas One's. Feels confident enough to travel and You know it's about building that consumer confidence back is an and told George me a lot about that. He said that December nineteenth was the most likely date for fury wall to three trying to get that over the line. But he also said that there was a possibility it would end up elsewhere. So I think the idea is that if they can do it in Vegas if they can have some crowds than they will if not, it might it might end up a elsewhere or of course, it could be delayed into twenty twenty one I think there's a lot of will from the sides is on a it to get the fight dunk this year this calendar year i. spoke to types in the other day in an east. He just wants to fight. He's frustrated they all do donate and as Josh mentioned earlier, no dillion getting out a couple of times. It must make the other thing you know why not May it's a big fight fury Waldo it sits mega fight and we've got AJ Boola over here. Buffalo's fights needs to happen hopefully before Christmas, and then we see where twenty twenty one brings us, and whether we get finally that that Mouskouri matchup between fury and Joshua but yeah they were looking at the nineteenth but. I think there's there's it's it's quiet. It's eerily from the wall to camp at the moment but they're working behind the scenes to to get it right and of goals you know the is changing on a daily basis especially over the other side of the pond. Is One more from you regarding compensation with todd just instantly December nineteenth for boxing fan to go on see fury water thriving latches mouthwash earn isn't I'm not just talking about beer in Vegas be? Amazing. Brooke crew food that was something I member Matt Mathematics on the Poe cost he was on a flight and Brooke on the fly as well to go over and talk talk try and drum up some interest in that fire long time ago I think for fury water to actually Now it's almost full circle that looks a little bit more positive Crawford. What do you think can happen? I think it can happen I mean told was very much in the way we're all in the same boat together. Everyone's been dealt. The same cards you know and he's doing his thing Fight Camp Frank Warren's doing his thing with BG Studios PBC with Fox and show I'm rank of got a a good schedule coming up obviously with a big deal with the SPN and great fight good seat Lama back against at Fema Lopez nuts a really interesting clash and A. Good one, we've also got a John Davis Leeann Santa Cruz is a few decent America matchups happening You Know Spence Garcia, there's a there's a few things that we're interested in by obviously we do want the the big blockbuster fights for us. We want to see you know the cal Brooks, the cons in these big fights and brute wants Crawford Crawford I think needs an opponent and in eastern opponent Fatty shopping though I think that will work Ruben I put. To told, would it be November fourteenth us what I've heard? He's about what you get your information from. But so you pretty correct you'll not. That's what we're looking at could be vegas could be a back home for for in Nebraska. So we're not sure but it certainly a fight that some this heavily talked to out So I think we're down the line with whether we get sit in November or it will be delayed to twenty twenty one not quite. Sure, but I think that that can happen I want to Ami colonies in order to oversee for growth about you know we wanted to fight Kell Brook is that over of thought with to to Brits Hair, that will be a fight that maybe would make sense roundabout. Now, the trouble is who said with George Warrington situation the crowds you need the crowds for these at the these big fights, and that's what we're trying to get usages or over the line right now. Barry, I'M GONNA, ask you about Pinelli Save you save your animal for that. But brought Crawford just gone off what Adam said there you kind of feel the has run out of time waiting for everybody else and thinks e. believes he's got one more massive fire in turns crew foote's is top of the tree really Would you give Kell Brook much of a chance in? White is a white is obviously very important without as well book. Seem to have gone away from well to up to super welterweight don't really know where Finland enough. I think he's living a life. Not I think this this. All the each at the end of the career where they really more disciplined than they were earlier because when you're young everything's a little bit easier of course, making the weights of it easy. 'cause younger than you don't carry it as much I'd also you just you dine out on your talents it when you get older some of those skills they sat wronged off the obesity after MIDI focusing maintain skills as best you can. So I think he's limited looks that way so I think he probably realized that he can make wait now. I still would prefer. superwelter to be honest but I think if you if you can make it safely, what she thinks, he can then be a false I think he's sort of false but the stages in their careers right now, you'd make massive massive favorites uni positive out of it all always at in the stage of his career it makes it easier to make because that ego maybe where they were both champions who wants to on the I. Think. Takes it away on the broncos every little bit understanding that he will be the beast. That makes it easier to me on that point. Either way it's a, it's a fantastic fault it is. And I think you know you, you dismiss in peril to be honest 'cause still power. Reflexes to look into me it's just Just, what about I think the coral for these such? And, such a nasty streak in an with an for the young model, we seem to think that trump twenty, five year old superstar. He's not either easy. Got To the same age but easy still maintain that I think books just slightly on the way down there's that little voice in the back might as well. It's like. Well, if we're going to find out what books got left, we might as well there's no point in keep doing sea level opponents and comeback. It's as we'll go in at the deep end of the top level when if he's got something left, then we'll see against. Crew for each show when accidents Wallich. Digital. Spence that he has courage is not just A. Bully adults a skill and pizza. Wasn't as good as in each one in fights what he's in God's bigger all the better that he can dig in. So you know you'll give. You'd have to move to the big favorites. Okay. So let's The bullets in the gun and freshly sell. KANALELO row with design in golden boy I mean it's got very public and really he's got very ugly. How on Earth does this play out now? When does it play out in DC? Clean Breaking and going onto completely new promoter. Reading between the lines looks like that golden boy in Oscar and canal triangle with fatty fractured for a while social media is giving us all of this window into court proceedings. It's it's it's strange bizarre but also in th- ruling, it's like a call crush on the other side of the roadway you know you shouldn't look but you do how? Picked, apart, Barry what on earth happened with our. Opinion but I think it's funny bads because you know what goes on behind the scenes more than we do of course but especially when it comes to contracts instead but I'd K I just want to see in fights you know pretty to all this information I'm not interested. I, don't care about if you look sixty million or sixty credit to be as a fan I, don't know why would also interesting in boxing. Boxes you influence if you all want him to retire millions and health, and of course we do. It as a family just WANNA see good fights softly. So the price that he was the some of the fights the fight is that he was mentioning wind up to the level that canal you being with to be honest and and if he was given total control picking opponents then I would say. From. A person doesn't know what's going on. Naive. From disowned giving it full disclosure who fights me I know how that would work out. But I understand that knocking on some loosening back. been knocking knocking back like Joe Saunders and Callum Smith understanding about financial a financial real gain in medical maybe I don't know. That on the named Division that's the problem was what they wanted to fight we. saw the the the the the online things that they went into flight. Khabib. hoagie mass vidal or a seven, forty, seven year old Oscar de la Hoya I think that's where hawks. The thing that's where it gets complicated because boxing fans and certainly US goes. Eight Lancet Look Joe shown doesn't Count Smith and think can always the best fight for that the that we want to see his fans but then it gets slotting will complicate and I'm not going to be naive enough to pretend that it's not complicated top level business. All I would say is that all these cross sports promotions? To be honest, I don't know. McGregor ruin quite works. We seen a different level and and I think you're gotTa have people who can translate over that. We've had more replays plays be successful at the box, and then we've had you see guys success little box if you WanNa really talk about crossing from different sports. Actually I don't understand it. It becomes it becomes the circus and you kind of control and walks in a crazy sports we do whatever we can a we've really out. Boxing, thousands soul to make money. Where does it end? Come on? You know we we WANNA see Connecticut a top Viking box of great names I need is one of the only fight is learned from every fight that improves and the shoes. He doesn't need the box guys put a bill boxing, a boxer voter, a Doodoo guidance you. Need that needs a big Joe Saunders? ACADEM- Smith or go down to middleweight guys. Fights fought him and they have to be real fights at as a boxing fan I wanNA see. I mean. This there's ways of settling flatter promoted disputes fighting him in in a professional boxing ring is not one of them. Say that with the rice while because read I just. Couldn't believe I was reading. Is a shame that this is public and and and really is got to this level. But how do you think it will play out from what you've heard you've ever in. Boxing Andy. Disagree with Barry I think we're all fight fans will want to seek Anneli fighting and we want to see him in the best fights civil. It was a huge deal that disown golden boy did you know huge money massive money and oversee it was a it was a big Big Talking Point at the time big statement from design. And oversee, they want to see him fight you know the the best the problem is with with what happened with covert and the pandemic and the lack of gates and all the rest of it. Then it's it's difficult has an end You Know I. Agree. Barry fight with them suitably sean all obviously go off. You know someone that Caliban, restoring fight Daddy Jacobs. We've after that. It was fantastic worn. It was a great fighting just that little bit better was It was brilliant. That was proper and then we went up to fight Kovalev and you. Want to see him in these great fights because he's a great fighter and you know he gets paid what he gets paid he paid a lot of money but other than this is this is as you say, it's like watching it's like looking at it all unfold and it's not the first time in boxing and it won't be the last and taught Tottenham. I had a good chat about yesterday. He's always he worked with some big names over the years Bob Arun, himself in eighty houses well, Don King there's there's Luger Promoter Frank Warren, of course to. While, lot of his fights is sort of move on and you know I I don't know that it's it's difficult. One nothing. The best thing is that we we let the the story play out. It's between golden boy, his own and Kelly Willoughby, some sort of a A mutual agreement will there be an understanding. Will I be a settlement law? These cases done go the full way we know that it's been sort of taken away the first Ernal in. We'll have it back this week next week there's a there's a long way to to play out with it. The most important thing is that can olive fights and we don't waste time in his. Career so I'm hoping that it will. It will come to some sort of conclusion, and if doesn't, it'll be interesting to see you know who's should've steps in I'm sure that everyone from Bob Arum's to our Hayman's anti-hun to everybody will will always want to be involved with someone like it can also, but he's with golden boy he's with design and we have to watch and see it play out. As a said like Barry I just WanNa say in a ring in good fights. Would you say this is all good of a game where I read somewhere. Has said that the fact that these listed so didn't name the. Tim Great me but the people that are going to they made a mistake in paperwork almost. So to say, we can't show you but we're not. We don't really want to see you. We WanNA is that a game that's all of like a threat. Yeah. Like look like a public. Is. Connecticut come out and said, you know I'm pound for pound I'll take on anyone sort of in and out of the ring. So yeah, I mean he's not happy and you know he's I think he's been sort of enjoying himself on his you're down in Miami has an A. and sort of Mexican independence says when he should be fighting. So that was a that was a clear message to to to the world's assailant you missing me it could be tricks, it could be. A. Mistake from them I I think you'll right in the I I'm surprised if that had happened about level but you know look it maybe it's John's for for them to sit down a fresh it out between because of design will WANNA keep canal for that business golden boy WANNA keep canal. So there's I remember, of course, golden boy did a deal with design as well to give. Them a promotional opportunities. So there's a little things tied up there where was canal in all of this and he should be oversee front and center because he's The star, The star fighter but he's also GonNa take the decent tests for that sort of money and that's that's what I believe. You know he's being paid know thirty five million or whatever for premium opponents and he's going to be fighting. Of Callum Smith and Billie Joe and Golovin for that sort of money has an an enemy sent me once more or whatever, and then they WANNA pay less to fight less people. That's where that's the problem because we're not privy to the actual contracts that dom go to wait and see it play out. But yellow is obviously some sort of gains ship going on as well. But it serious business down the serious business fight fans is we don't want to lose canal we want to see him fight. Loss in the news roundup, you mentioned these in that Adam Frank Warren. Hinted this week that the war against Joyce could be in limbo off the government's new ruling on gatherings that doesn't come as a huge surprise barry it must be hugely frustrating for the two four is an frank I think people will probably think because this is the Scott Books and forecast that will Robert Share and will want it's not happen. That's rubbish. We I think every British boxing fan wants to see do block Joyce. The problem they've got is crowds and you have to sympathize with them a promotion like that deserves fans. It probably financially needs fans bought without crowds it me those leads them in limbo and east probably the not knowing that's killing us. It's GonNa. HAPPEN IS GONNA. Happen. If not when but you don't know when the when the wind might be if you know what I mean. It's almost like going back to the time status say the uncertainty issue the boxes are so use that as well because you never should've. Judgment and whole schedules bill rolling around Joe timetable pretty much, and you'll never show when you're just hoping you're on the bill the bill there. I think Dubai and especially Dubai and maybe Joe Jason Little. They have plans or these or and I. think that was a huge five. Anyone should have been chest not because that does changed the landscape of the heavyweight division slightly because they're not far off challenging for that will that will to be honest. I. Think these to fight in the winner will probably won't be ready for the world title by well, you may be choke Jason Not too bad 'cause the age, but it'd be right behind the top tier so. As a massive vacations on the world scene, and so that's why. Everyone whether you're involved in the Proto, not will take massive interest because when people forget how much as much of a little fella and with all, we certainly disliked the heavyweights because they get the overpaid. Cues Nova pages because there's ten taller and. Heavier and they hit a little harder but. When the heavy division is healthy. It trickles down to the rest of us. That's that's just the truth whether you like, Oh, now that's the truth. So we need these people like Joshua's and fuel. Have you only boxers now because they are feed in every other week and the same Dawar enjoy some of the label do that also and alleged say something on the fact you said it's The Sky Schools Poe calls you know Barry and I are very love boxing united and it's I go back I'll fall into older Barry Jones is career. He's GonNa work tells ways coming work with us you know we All all follow my career. remember remember him winning well tiles and the in the phrases by an everything. Great Advice. But look it's it's more about the fact that we're all in this together and Frank Warren and I have to more than six months in in an longtime in overseas. He's put out a a message to Eddie everybody loves boxing. Everyone's got their business. We all want to see boxing a thrive. We love competition when I heard bt were coming into into the game or two three years ago was serious intentions with Franken everything. You know that equal may open I said, let's get on with it. It's great having competition out there it raises your game it means that you know boxes are. Getting getting out getting paid, they're getting fans are getting great fights and this really good fights that they put on. We Really WanNa see to Warren Joyce you know I was one of the people that voted I think like you andy at the boxing writers. Club for Daniel Dubois to win that year, did I want to vote for just a mattress Father Aski- fight or not wanted to vote for the person I thought. Deserved it. Yes. Of course, we're in business with with Matt Trueman sky and you know we we we promote those fights, but there isn't a biased if Joe Joyce comes in and beats one match from fighters or Daniel Dubois and that's what happens. You cool. What's in front? Of You you know I've always said that and if you re Beats Joshua Fury Beats Joshua we want to see the fights. It doesn't matter and I think the fight fans should realize that you know we all have businesses but we're all keen on seeing exactly what's going on we will wash anthony on the other night we will want yard too because then you ought to fight but waxy or fight callum Johnson you. Let's get some of these big fights made. It's all about that which is going back to the situation, which is so disappointing that he's not fighting and the Joyce Dubois fight is a fight really I think needs crowds so probably have to weigh I'll time with it and It's a shame that none of us get to watch it and Vado get the chance to show each other. You know to show the the heavyweight world. You know who's the boss and you know a lot of people download. It was the next coming Joe Joyce. It's tough guy really quality guy good good amateur very hard to be is a great fighter. We want to see it and frank puts on great fights just like Eddie does. So I think that we should. You know this guys spoke cost. Yes. We're going to talk about all business and authorizes, but we're GONNA talk about every business in boxing and that's really important a Guy Adam Smith off his long run in AL clipped by. A very well said and agree with everything that you said, yeah I moved to my point is. People think that we have an agenda and it's just not true We want to do against Joyce more more more than anybody else. It's a great fight I. Think they won't say pool every WANNA see feary Walter we wanna see Joyce and do and Berry's right the heavyweights when the heavyweight boxing is and the brigade is flying boxing is flying. Those are the fights you want to say, and what we do now is the Eddie's managed to put white back in on in this climate and he's doing it again in the rematch. So until the step up to the bright and Even. The line you've got to give maximum manetti on credit very much say. Okay, well, before we go just got. To bonus as it was just got attention to a very worthy cause Tim Hobbs who was a colleague with us at squabbles boxing for many years he's now working for voluntary nonprofit charity called m. a r.i.p Emma rap or mixed martial arts for reform and progression the he's facing extinction Lincoln but spreading its wings Strat learned over the next few months their philosophies to educate empower the death blind disabled disadvantage with mixed martial arts and boxing skills. So it's a question to both the. Combat. Sports boxing sometimes get that negative coverage in the media and it gives people you know the Nice says Damn Oh they need. I think we've always been asserting on the side of the fence that boxing and mixed martial arts combat schools can be beneficial to so many people with so many different ways by. The cost can it really is I'm doing a thing maybe ten years ago called set self-esteem spoke I go into schools kids who were struggling and no Also, behaviorally, and we were just watching training often walks in training and gave him a discipline to look forward to, but they ought to be. Whether uniform, just do the simple things that you think would look things you just do, but he will do it to come to the cost. You have to do these things I give an understanding of of rewards, an structure in the life, and also for people with issues, people struggle. This'll is boxing squad century. So if you major disability than the solid punch in the pads, the feel of it. It can really help you. It's it's a fantastic anything that's negative over boxing. You get punched in the face you take that away and the rest of this fantastic I think. Accountability Fun exercise to do immediately is out of my current plaque on the wall of the Winco Bank says bow books. Everything else books into staff accuse your health are wish I. Had it written down? Newsnight smoking drinking drugs. Yes A boxing to Kara by a great line I be on I live up there can't remember off. I think the most important thing is that Barry's APP see Roy it's gripe vendetta undisciplined structure balance and you know Tim Hobbs terrific guy what with us for many is real of boxing the Bedia knowledgeable. Great Guy. Fantastic. He's working and supporting this this great goals Yeah. You know boxing is littered with stories of you know find is coming from all sorts of different backgrounds. Also situations and you listen to the guys even now the fighting Richard react polls. He sort of you know have come through real tough gangs or time some time in jail and an another difficulties, and they all talk about the way that boxing again focus and gave them away and I. think that anything that can help you know a confidence, a balanced structure discipline everything. Like that and giving you a sort of reason to get up and feel good about yourself is is a fantastic thing to have. Yes. Barry's right. You know you can choose to get punched in the face and that's something that you have on occasion. Andy something saying something happened and you know but I do like the fitness of boxing because you feel as though, you'll really achieving something. The you know the the fighters officially than than anyone You know whether you're you're you'll mayo a female. You can see the explosion and women's boxing, and and also of you know women in the gyms and not just sort of hard boxing but boxers sized charity events, White Collar the whole thing it's really sort of come up because people want to look better and feel better about themselves and so through for mentally and physically. Difficulties especially, something like lockdown I boxing or martial arts is a great way of sort of refocusing yourself re-balancing I wish them well, I think it's a great thing that Tim's doing and You know I think it can only benefit them and you know hopefully this task results and they will really feel confident about their futures. Just reiterate MMA alright pay onsite Senate right guys, MMA ramp. So if you're interested go to their website www dot mma, r.i.p dot co dot UK sessions were on Tuesday September twenty second and everyone is welcome to embrace. Fitness will being a great community. vibe sounds great. Guys. Wish you will the best for? Well. That brings US unique leads the end of this week show Hope both of you enjoy a little bit the. The no surprise sunshine that's come out our way. Barry through your dog. Making his way to his bed in the background of the. And as I it does exactly. What might those what she saw Aku Circle Circle Circle than himself down but you'll dog is is a big outdoor. What is e? She's a she's she she. She's she's a great thing seventy seven year old great day. Let's just stop. She's she's my she's a rumor but owned my house. If anyone says she's totally new Barry I'm GONNA, sue twists having it. It's ironic because I'm an tiny man I know I know these things I know who I am and I got this giant dog. Float called slow around the Park Shelton. Just. Great Fenton Clip Van Tan Wall. than. I have to go back into a different second down I'll be watching those clips again. Adam you did well not to rub. Josh's face. It's much our. I think that's more because you. You realize that you didn't get away with one probably gave you a few hall. A few hot. It's extra that guy is quite nice coming into sky studios and seeing the mural on the wall as champions. It's taken this long enough. At the end of this is. Out There Adam losing. To again, this welcome leads to the Premier League. Fantastic. Oh. The best success this easings I didn't know we'll be some success will match gotTa Josh Warrington's at what what a what sort of Dow dovetail beautifully. Went it. If we can get a couple atten spring and summer next year you know down the road or Headingley summit on that so yeah, it's a it's fantastic upping. Ricky had when Man City were you know what? We're sort of the Golden Clavell, the the the other half of Manchester and somebody as Ricky Success City. Started to get back into it and You know it's it's fantastic when you can link football and boxing together but elites as being a sleeping giant for long chiming in boxing. Barry Barron, I remember the days of Derek. Roach and those guys cool for Ashley Henry. Walton from your but you know there's always been that possibility and josh boy next door dental technicians sells his own tickets really captured the imagination there I'm foot will fines are so passionate and I think if you mix the two together as we've seen already on some of the great, he's had you know fantastic times ad we have to wait for crowds to come back and the safety and and all of that is the most important thing. So we have to abide by the guidelines but fingers crossed twenty, twenty one, we'll get a couple of nights leads. Definitely everything is cross fool that. To write our tunes. Thank you to josh to Hugh mentioned Adam. Barry tweets. Have you again most of all you guys listening catch all again next week.

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Boobies at the polls! Theres a monkey shortage. Dog DNA tracks owners who dont clean up the poo.

Weird AF News

21:35 min | 2 weeks ago

Boobies at the polls! Theres a monkey shortage. Dog DNA tracks owners who dont clean up the poo.

"DOGGY DNA database tracks owners who don't clean up the POOP. America is facing a monkey shortage as demand skyrockets for some monkeys and a topless voter. Shocked. New. Hampshire poll workers in a dispute over political clothing. These are the weird stories for Thursday. They're weird I'm your host Jones E. This is weird af news, the only daily Weird News podcast hosted by comedian. I'm so happy to be here I have three weird stories for you listeners my loyal listeners. Thanks for joining me. Let's get into it. Stream new listen to where AF news with Jones. Dog D. N. A. Database tracks the owners who don't clean up after their dogs poop. Naples Italy Naples is known for it's a crime and the Mafia and they've been the pizzeria the spice to meet the boy. But Naples also having another issue that plagues the residents. Dog poop are in Italian. It's called the dog crap Ola. Now the city of Naples taking a stance on this new dog poo. According to the media pet dog DNA will be entered into a citywide registry. Now samples from piles of the poop left on the street or on the sidewalk will then be entered into the database and be used to identify the irresponsible owners of these dogs who left behind the MESSI POO poo. The city will then find culprits about six hundred and eighty five bucks that is hefty that is so steep. I mean, why don't you just get the Mafia on get the up and we're GONNA fit you for some cement shoes. If we find your dog Poo, what do you think of that? You're GONNA take a long walk off a short. PA. If you don't pick up your dogs, you know you want to the trunk and that's what you get for not picking up the stuff that came dogs trunk. Okay I'm out of my mind obviously Naples Italy is not the first. To do extreme measures in order to counter Canine Crap Ola in public spaces. According to the media's. Certain. Cities have tried everything from the postal service. Yes. A Spanish mayor mailed dog poop back to their owners. That's awesome. You Getting Doug Crap in the mail you deserve it buddy. Some cities have tried shaming. yes. They've publicized the names of offending dog poop owners as well. Some cities have tried bribery. Yes. example a park in Mexico City offered free Wi fi in exchange for bags of your dog Poo. That's fabulous. Actually, I, would just go pick up dog dog food that isn't mind for the Free Wifi oh for sure for sure. The US doesn't have such things. We don't just dog crap everywhere man we try to shame you but it just doesn't work. It says here in the US neighborhoods, apartment complexes and gated communities have been faster to adopt these ideas than cities themselves Oh really. I didn't know about this apparently a condo development and Massachusetts my home state implemented DNA testing, and so so far has seen a steep drop in offending dogs with just one owner being charged the hundred and fifty dollar fine after genetic testing confirmed their dogs Doodoo was left on someone's lawn. Oh my goodness. This is like some CNI CNI. CSI. Dog Crap Shit. See and CSI dog shit crap drink. You know what? I'm trying to say here. I had no idea. Massachusetts was on the cutting edge of the dog crab DNA. That's what you get. You frigging leave your dog crap. Now, not right where I parked my cough your mind. Also Texas apartment complex used the same technology. They're even more serious about their fines though they charge fifty. And a New Jersey condo complex charges up to a thousand dollars for third time offenders boy. That's nuts all right there. People are trying to crack down on this dog crap and you you really have to man. You know because some people just don't clean up shit and then you have a man, I can't tell you how many times I've stepped in Dog Shit in New York and La. Cities that really you know have gone dog crazy. They've gone dog crazy. The last two cities I've lived in Honestly Dog Bananas Bananas Over Dogs Little Dogs Mostly, and you know, of course, the people that own these dogs men I don't I don't want to try to come down hard on millennials man but you just you don't like work. You don't like to pick up Shit I don't blame you a right but hey. Someone needs to teach you some responsibility here you to. You don't even pick up after your own Shit I realized that your mother's been picking up after your Shit but man you got to pick up after your dog shit upside to say it millennials you gotTa do it all right. This took it strange of making fun of millennials here which I am one but I don't I don't relate I just don't I don't relate. Now as far as the dog DNA goes I mean this is this is a lot. A lot of technology a lot of production goes into. Tracking this kind of a DNA in science I mean, is it really worth it at the end of the day I don't know I don't know obviously they're passing on the charge of the DNA testing onto the the culprit. That's why when you get when you get caught in. Naples, it's almost seven hundred dollars because the cost of doing this. CSI behind the scenes investigation is so high that you got to offset it, but it just seems like a long way to go I think we can use maybe just use some cameras have cameras everywhere call it the dog shit camera. You know the crap Ola camera we're watching you owner you pick up your dog Poo, right? You're on camera we'll. We'll shame you with a viral video on our facebook page. You don't want to be on a local police department facebook page with the other criminals. All right. I've gone way too long with the story I'm sorry. America. Is facing a monkey shortage as demand skyrockets for covid nineteen research the race for a vaccine to help end this pandemic is consumed. The scientific community created an escalating demand for an essential resource monkeys. Before drug companies call on human volunteers, monkeys are used in preclinical trials to test the safety effectiveness effectiveness gay gay gay gay vaccines but with more than one hundred vaccines in development around the world, there aren't enough monkeys to go around. Dr Skip Bom. which is that's a perfect doctor named skip. If your is skip you, you gotta be either a doctor or you gotta work at a sub shop. Skip says. There is a shortage. That's it. That's all skip has thanksgiving. Thanks for all that information there is a shortage of the monkees. Like other aspects of society, the pandemic is underscored and already existing problem non human primate research centers have been strained in recent years because of restrictions on imported monkeys from countries like China and India and a lack of funding to support domestic breeding. We've always been in a state where we were always very close to the level of production to meet the demand for research, and that has been the status for several years when the Kobe pandemic came about though that just press even further we are running out of monkeys running out of among gays. It's a lot of people that own monkeys privately in this country. Why don't you just hit them up for some help although I don't know if you can really give up your pet monkey for science that would make me sad you know how do you? How do you let? Bogo? You know what I mean. Some people are like well can't use science and technology to. Fix The situation will the National Primate Research Center They try to use the small number of animals necessary for scientific results. Unfortunately, it's not currently possible to completely replace animals with computer simulations or cell cultures. They, say we hope one day there's a way we don't have to use any animals in research but right now you know not all humans are going to submit for an examination where they get regular xrays regular C. analysis or blood and analysis. Rhesus monkeys or racists. Macaws are the most commonly used monkeys for pre clinical trials because they share about ninety three percent of their genes with humans. Did you know that ninety three percent there nearly human? And so they're very effective when it comes to these. Vaccination trials and whatnot. Skip wants you to know that their immune systems. Immune responses are quite similar to what you see in humans. They can give you a very good idea of safety and efficacy efficacy in vaccine's efficacy next vaccines. What are you GonNa do this to me article making difficult for Jones to get through I got a public school education here. The Washington. National Primate Research Center breeds pigtailed Macaws by the way which could play an important role in second-generation vaccines. this species of monkey more resembles humans when it comes to pregnancy and underlying health conditions as a matter of fact. the article goes on to talk about two lanes monkey primate research center. What they're doing to satisfy the demands with all the monkeys mean. basically, we need more monkeys I guess I don't know what to do about this. anybody owns a monkeys we could Because one thing is for sure guys This is going to be the last pandemic I don't think so. So. WHAT ARE WE GONNA do Hey, can we use sex dolls in place of monkeys and humans during these these sex dolls, sex robots they seem to be human like. Maybe not ninety three percent human but maybe like I dunno fifty percent human wisdom use them in trials. And find a vaccine. You can use my girl, Tracy Tracy. She's she doesn't flinch when you put a needle in her. This is getting out of control. You like podcast you're listening to my podcast maybe thought yourself. I'd like to make a podcast too difficult. No not with anchor anchor has free creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast from your phone, your computer anchor distributor podcast to Apple, spotify stitcher and more. They have advertising integration. So you can even make a little money off your podcast. Everything you need to make a podcast in one place, download the free anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started and good luck with your podcast. Good luck with your creation. Good luck with your life man the. Topless voter shocks New Hampshire poll workers in a dispute over political clothing rule. A New Hampshire woman walked into a polling station on Tuesday with a political t shirt. She pulled it off in a flash of defiance in voted topless. When the officials told her campaign clothing was banned according to local reports. The unidentified female entered an exit gymnasium with a shirt depicting president trump and the late Senator John McCain oh boy. The town moderator named Paul told her that she had to either take off the shirt or cover it up. So she slipped it off and grabbed her ballot. She was not wearing anything underneath. The shock bom the shirts off. The guy says, and she's standing there. She's saying, how's this? How do you like this? Can you believe it? She came into Sherp. She got boobs hanging out. She's like, how do you like this? He said there were about voters at the poll at the time. Thankfully, he noticed no children but the voting booths had their curtains removed due to the Corona Virus Oh my goodness. Backside, you could see her naked backside. Andrea shine witnessed the incident. She said that she thought it was funny. She laughed I think we all kind of needed it. With everything going on in the world, it's like who cares really I agree with you Andrea Shine with everything going on in the world who gives a damn. Okay. You Got Murder Hornets a pandemic. This fires all over the place rioting. Crazy people, shooting people I mean it's you know it's crazy. The world is crazy. WHO CARES I? Think we need it I agree with you. Still, it was unexpected for election officials. She could have just got into the hallway and turns it inside out. You know. Said somebody who is really concerned a real square. Adding that he could have had her lovely removed if he wanted to prefer not to escalate the situation if she felt it was her right more power to her we all laughed about it is things were winding down. So I don't know if it was a set, but I've never never never experienced anything quite like that. I mean shocking shocking the t shirts imagery mocked the president and praised the McCain it read McCain hero trump zero now. So it was a very old school anti-trump shirt. Which I love she took it old school. She's like I got nothing. I got no new anti-trump clothing in my closet but let me break out this old one. It was probably really tight. And she no, she didn't expect to go topless day. But Hey look what happened take eight. You can't wear that. Oh, I can't wear it when you're gonNA see my boobs. That's what's going to happen either see my trump shirt or you see my boobs right other children here. Are we voting? What are we doing here? Now this begs me to ask the question like why can't you have a political t shirt on or wearing a button for a candidate that you support when you walk in. Now I'm not saying a giant sign or anything like that or like a bullhorn yellen, the person's name. Like. But if you do it tastefully such as just a shirt or a hat or a button. I I don't see what's wrong with that. You know, maybe a scarf, a sticker on your fanny pack I really I don't see the big deal is what I'm saying you should be able to express your political. Obviously, you're expressing your political support through the vote that you're doing but also. You know it's a very. You know it's very important. Voting is very important to some people and they might want to show on the day of of the poll that Hey I'm all in and here's what here's what I'm about. I'm expressing that to you visually before I go in. You know I'm not saying she can grab somebody by the throat and be like. You better vote McCain. I mean never mind that was years ago. You'd better vote for the other guy. You know that's not going to be allowed. You can't put a hand on people. You can't tell people what to do but why not be able to wear the expression of your political choice on that day do you guys agree with me or not? Am I am I out of line here? Call the show six, four, six, four, five, zero, twenty, twelve. Hague as Jones thanks for listening to where they have news once again I. Appreciate You. I WANNA give some love to Bruce Harrison who sent me an email a few days ago to let me know about weirdness. Day. He wrote a Austin Texas celebrates weirdness day and it was was a few days ago. I. Missed it. I. Apologize Bruce I I meant to read your email earlier but I guess it was the other day weirdness day and he sent a link. It's a it's a pretty funny tradition in Austin. I. I really could find a home in Austin. Is Very Weird there. The people are weird. It seems like you have weirdness day. I. Mean I think it's perfect for me. Perfect for me I just can't deal with them. Texas I'm sorry I just can't. I, know you guys don't think you're like really Texas but you are you are you Texas okay. It as much as I love your barbecue at just can't I just can't do Texas men I just can't not to live I? Don't think no not to live. I'm going to stick to southern California because I like I like to breathe in fiery ash all day. That's cool. I got ash in my hair still I think. It's ridiculous. ashed on all day yesterday. Isn't that great at work just Ashton all day ashen my hair. Breathing it in. Thank God I wear masks. But seriously, it's out of Control I. Don't know who can live this way. I. Mean I'm doing the best here hopefully it gets better life gets better as I think it does does anybody know I mean can we look this up? Should I google this goo going to Google does get better hold on okay. Google does life get better? Google does life get better? Okay. Google says Oh don't expect it. Okay. Dad Won't expect it. If it comes. If it gets better, it gets better. You know it's A. It's all uphill from here. Guys is what I'm saying listen check on my Patriot if you'd like to see some pictures of tattoos and listened to bonus episodes that's pretty cool. This extra weird stuff on them. It's Patriot dot com slash weird AF news You can also download my comedy album and maybe I'll put it post a photo of my car covered in ash that's pretty fun. Right. Life is good guys. Life is so good. So good. What can I say so great also follow me on Instagram at Funny Jones which if you did, you could assab the ash falling from the sky yesterday and my my coworkers car covered in ashes well, which was hilarious. He came out very displeased. Very displeased. I was laughing I laughed really hard because his car was covered in Ash. Oh God he thought it was a disgrace I thought hilarity hilarity ensues. That's just my opinion I really think everything's funny which can be very off putting to people you like that as well. You find all sorts of shit funny that others don't you like Ooh at what point there's like a fine line between. It's funny and then it's just straight up rude to laugh at it and it's insulting to laugh at certain things and I just can't help it. I just think everything is hilarious. But. Maybe that's why I tried to be a comedian. That could be why I think everything is funny. It's funny. You know you think everything is funny. Then you get on stage to test these things half of the stuff you like Oh shit that should have stayed in my head. Not Funny at all the lady falling off the bus. Oh boy I thought that was a hoot. Okay. Okay. Next joke. Next joke. Oh God would be on on stage again, telling jokes, I can't wait that will be that would be a dream come true to do that again. It was less day on stage may ninth or something Oh? My goodness four months without even being onstage I'm losing my mind guys. Is it clear? I'm losing my mind. Okay. I'm rambling a lot in new listeners like that. This is unacceptable. I apologize you don't have to listen to the ultra. You really don't what do I WANNA do. Oh Yeah. Okay. My email. Funny Jones at Dot Com you can send me articles or whatever I left the phone number to the show the Instagram Funny Jones twitter at Funny Jones. Well, facebook page is weird AF news check out the website weird AF news dot Com all right guys see tomorrow for more weird. News. A Jones minds Robert Fantasy main I just wanted to say, therefore Friday's episode of so accurate. There's so much. We crap don't going on out here Florida like this is just an example of it and this is a true story too. My Walmart. So there's a woman right down with the word from our house, but there's a sign that Walmart the has to explain to people that you have to stealing. It's felon. There's literally sort of the Walmart is the same storm is a felony. And that you will be arrested. And people could be interested in that. Walmart is just a contact. With on turn is somebody seen resting that Walmart? I'm not joking about that. That's I. Just an example like people won't be surprised if someone just got divorced and then they went into chilies and said I got him a baby back baby best base. Force down here it. Is. Great. I love your podcast main and keep onto a Florida Friday. Well Hi Barry Jones he this is chat and you had a fan call in I. Guess she didn't call him actually she wrote and she let you review and she said she liked show on everything and it was very positive. She liked to and hence she ends the review by saying laugh out load. L.. O.. A. D. and you Kinda sniggered a little. Hand and said you know laugh out loud has if she made a typographical error. And I think that was a little presumptuous. Oh, you'd think she'd made a mistake. I mean. You know maybe she was commenting that that's the way she gets off. She laughs how to load. You know maybe. Maybe. You OUGHTA try. So usually I just read one out, but I thought maybe I'll give it a try. So here goes. You probably don't WanNa hear me this surprise. So I'll I'll try last I load and I'll let you know how knows I'm I'm calling you back. Well, Jones we this is Chad Cohen back I i. don't know what it's been twenty five thirty minutes. My my throat is sore. My voice is raw I gave it my best effort. I I Swallow Lube. And I even read some on my belly. But my size service can be. I I try to belly laugh and I tried everything I can think of, but I'm just. A. Sore I got a sore throat and I tried Laffin Loudon as long as I could and no matter what I did. I couldn't laugh out a load. So I guess maybe to each own. Maybe, you're right. Maybe it was a typo maybe she's just capable of doing something I couldn't. But. Matter what I did I couldn't laugh out a load I had to go full hands on. So, whatever I'm willing to try anything. Once you've said that before. So. Anyhow. Well. Any anyways I I gave it my best shot. I I did give it a shot. Oh To Laugh I. GOTTA GO DOWN ON. My. Now. Luck maybe you could do it. I couldn't. Just getting old.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

37:18 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

"Ooh Yeah let's go Los Angeles. Ben Lyons filling in on the morning show good on August. I it's the the first of the month producer bone thugs and harmony video once you did my mom did a catering on it and it was before Uber so she drove them to the sets Nice Seri Awkward Awkward Car Ride between my mother and busy bone. What's up guys can learning luckily busy busy morning wow aw so yesterday? I'm feeling like I'm working hard. You know it's summertime. I'm down in Orange County Orange County Week. We kick things off at Golden Road and I'm thinking man. I'm working hard. You know I'm GonNA drive all the way down to the filling on the Sodano show and then come all the way back wake up early they get out working hard but then I see demarco far and not only does he do a segment on the Sodano show yesterday. He does the entire for our seven aw home and wakes up to come hang out this in the morning show and I'm thinking that's the difference that's the difference between civilian and a professional ath- where's the problem with this. This is normal normal right. We should all be working absolutely right good morning everyone but in that were twenty minutes on the elliptical get your protein shake. Get your bought up getting the shower shower. Let's roll here. I am fill myself. I'm like I did a segment on brush. Your teeth garage will see a working hard absolutely not the Marco far tough to live in L._A.. Right you gotta get up and get to work got to get out and go to work before you guys were Golden Road of course <HES> L Z and George Sodano you know yeah Chievo what Sheva what's was Chiba Aleksey Sheva cheever's arete rat breaking news anyway two of them throughout the first pitch at Angel Stadium and shouts out today Angel State of Staff Very nice to us. Let us on the Field Ah Bahrain out there and does what you all week as we've been practicing because they were gonna he thought they were going to do at the same time so I was. He was practicing left-handed ended. No practicing left he was practicing because we knew it was going to be the amount of being fronted amount so it wasn't sixty six inches <hes> <hes> so he was doing okay was throwing. You know these wouldn't inside. was I wrong to think L Z and athlete is that's what I always thought yeah well. He's athletic. Is He. Okay Yeah Chapter Beach you go on a Saturday in the summertime blacktop venison. You'll see they're going for ten and ten and you know what would you warm left-handed Vegan right well. No that's thing he thought that they were just going to do it. Same Times. He wanted to back to back. You know make it cool so get out there and like no one out of time please L Z was first. He's Oh why might as well do a right handed then and his throat yeah which hand actually is he. He's arranged white handed but he just you know he's not ambidextrous or anything. You wanted to try. Let me look cool. Become Carly Rae jepsen fifty cent moment real quick. He threw right handed it. was you know the catcher had to go and slide. Keep it in front of me from being a passed ball. We're not a pass while what does it awhile checks yeah but but <hes> they didn't go viral sews a big win for E._S._p._N.. Weren't made fun of or anything does not count amount in a catch off of his name with catcher he listens to this show knew some of the bits and everything so there was a man for welcoming now. They've had so much going on obviously this year it's been a tough year for the angels a a lot of emotions and sort of bring a little levity funniest today to kick off. Oh Seaweed that's right and you're talking about see. We make sure you join us again doing a starting on August fifth. That's right come out to our live remotes for your chance to win as you guys can see there an Anthony Davis Number Three Jersey and more now you must be present to win so for a complete list of our E._S._p._N.. O._C. events events follow us on twitter instagram and facebook at E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles Anthony Davis Lakers number three L. A.'s other A._D.. He's the other A._D.. Here as of right right now he is because this one in town who's the best player in the game. That's the best player in the N._F._l.. Their Donald the other one that gave us the other A._D.. The other radio they're eight and we'll let you later Aaron. Donald came up on the N._F._l.. Networks top one hundred list waiting for later number one but we'll get into that it number one in your heart you say earlier in the game. You're not making the links anything about metrics in focus. They go read some more about the game over there. Hey the dodgers didn't do anything yesterday. And that's the big story this morning. Top pitching prospect dusted may will make his debut this Friday but decided to hang onto these prospects. They didn't go out and get a big name Middle Reliever the biggest name bold face name yesterday's Major League Baseball football trading deadline of course was former dodger Zach cranky getting dealt from the diamondbacks to the Astros. Give them some starting pitching as they try to make another run at the world series but astros currently have in terms of when you add grinky out of the top five guys in whip you know whip is right. Don't keep talking. Okay walk leads per trainings. That's not even analytics they have three of the top five and when you add grinky now the astros starting pitching the Yankees have the worst starting pitching in baseball history. Look get that the Astros now have three of the top five well. The dodgers have great starting pitching. They have a little bit of a shaky bullpen and best closers in the game so if you're sitting here your dog this in your nit-picking what the dodgers are doing. This team has won over seventy games now shaky bullpen. You're sitting here shaky coming but they decide not to do anything not necessarily their decision. Solely people forget this yeah yeah this Kid Vasquez was the guy out in Pittsburgh but he's on a nice sensible deal so the pirates are going to just give him up because that's what the dodgers want. We often forget this time of year. It's a two way street that inquires both teams to WANNA participate. I just can't just go out there and nit pick pick whoever they want Jerry pick they want so they don't go out and make a move yesterday a and basically says everybody's on the team like this is who we got these are guys. Let's lock in focus and there's no more waiver deadline down the road years years ago. The Saint Louis Cardinals picked up a Willie McGee or you know ver- lander last year was picked up off waivers later on deadline now they changed it. This is it it's all in so these are the dodgers guys the rest of the way you know. Have you ever shattered confidence and you didn't really mean to shatter my own. When I look in the mirror every morning I wasn't going there? I'm just it's like someone that's doing well and then you offer them help. You know what I mean so it's like wait. You think I need help. I've won seventy games. Why do you think we need a big name person? Listen you know somebody else to come in and save us. That's what I thought we already pretty good. You know what I mean. Deadlines make move to get over the hump or if you really need in order for us savage chance we got. How does your chilling that Schilling since Memorial Day and you get a chance to hang onto your future you know I think sometimes doing nothing is the right move? You know you don't have to go out and make a splash every single deadline deal or off season. You know what I mean the mix to stay competitive satiate people that think we need to win the world series now. How often do you hear the word satiate on the morning? Show satiate spell it anybody Roger Look on pro football focus there you go. It's their satiate right in between whip and I'm just kidding speaking of prospects the dodgers twenty-one year old right Hander Dustin maze making his debut tomorrow night against the padres. He's three you know with the two-thirty e._R.. Aid is five. I start down in triple A.. I like this because he's six six longhairs of big guys twenty one years old and we'll get a chance to see on Friday night against the padres Vijay if he's if he's got any that reminds me. I didn't the world's tallest baseball player just die. I just read this. The Guy was like you know it'd be unit was like a seven seven one pitcher not from here. He just passed away recently. When you said toll guys that are pitching that just God blessed sprung popped into my head sorry about that didn't mean to make it a Downer all right? I just popped today to mark. Imagine me the selling that out when you see seven foot pitcher what's the first thing you think not gonna live a long life. Are you suck basketball. You stink at basketball. Why are you pitching unit seventeen? Wow excited to see this six foot six kid on Friday night against the padres morning show much better you feel more. This is a this is what I'm talking about E._S._p._N.. L._A.. Welcome back to the morning show. Ben Lines the Marco far hanging out for the This is the jam but the thing is in the market. You may know this see. That's when you guys were introduced to him. I knew him from seeing the Matt Circle. Welcome back. We're Gangsta Rapper L._A.. A local thing here and it wasn't going to make any airwaves or now. He's a chef yeah now now. His issue is a chef now these snow we'll maybe he'll make his own birthday. Cake coolio turns fifty six today. Happy Bieber rappers getting older for example. <hes> you know what I mean. It's make you feel a little bit of lakes meet Phil really all but I I love when rappers are getting older and just living life Jack who is going to be a GRANDPA soon grand that I do like what snoop going to be like at seventy the exact same exact same Malkin we already look. I mean he's agent hard. The wraps Willie Nelson. Is he going to be that guy right okay. Here's a phrase I'm sure you know had been black black. Don't crack. I've heard it once or twice around lax. Don't yeah well it cracks. I knew he's aging stop. It looks the guy the the pitcher is name is Luke van Mil World's tallest professional baseball player he's from he's Dutch and yeah seven foot one and he's a pitcher. That's great the Dutch pitchers that Guy Burt bly Levin Yeah Ah but just you couldn't stand in the wine and block shots pitches from the Netherlands here in the morning show to say e._S._p._N.. L._A.. Always Julio's birthday turned fifty six fifty six years nice well all right well. I don't know who number fifty six was on the list of top one hundred players in the N._F._l.. N._F._L. DOT COM. That's called drowsy today and number. One on the list is as a Aaron Donald Thurber one on the list. I hate it is he. The Best Player Football Demarco Castleford absolutely <hes> he has been the last two and a half seasons funny twenty and a half sacks from an interior pass rushing position defensive tackle position position and he didn't get his first sack until week four so he did all his damage in twelve weeks twenty and a half sacks in twelve weeks. That's more impressive than what O._J.. Did did two thousand yards and fourteen games way back when not that I'm talking on the field Mirage every row what he did did Donald do telling me. It was more impressive things that you'll ever see in the national national football league like you'll never see that again. He get the slow start last year because he sat out camper. That's just the way it goes. No happens to be at a couple tough weeks yeah out matchups out of the gate but he is he is playing at such a high level. He is so good that even him at eighty percent is better than ninety percent of the league highest rated player highest is rated defensive player obviously number two on the list drew brees number three Khalil Mack and I when when all this stuff came out about eighties clearly number one he's the best I agree clear Max pretty good too. No doubt I mean they're both dangerous scary just being out there and being on the sidelines the rams took on Chicago in Chicago and it got so loud there in Chicago and it was like one of those moments where I felt bad for Jared Goff like when I saw Khalil Mack on the other side just feeding on that energy and this guy knows it's about to be a pass because you need to throw to pick up the first down and I just felt bad. There's nothing nothing you can do to keep him off your quarterback but that's how people feel about almost every single play Khalil mack one of the players on my list of people I would pay money to go see you play football you see him play against Rodgers and the packers this year in Chicago and he's mesmerizing on the field. You can't take your eyes off. The same thing goes for Donald. No doubt you know it's people fans of Lawrence Taylor. If you ever want to know what that looks like in the modern era take a look at Khalil Mack especially when he's going towards the quarterback. It's almost almost the same weird Lawrence Taylor piece of Trivia. My cousin Ricky bought his old house in New Jersey. No kidding right number two on the list reason Imac four Pat Mahomes yeah let the League on fire last year. A lot of civilians probably like people like Raj. What have him higher on the list as you in that Pat Mahomes owns higher up on the list of the the N._F._l.'s breeze see what what did I tell you? Sea Breezes last for weeks 'cause proof August told you that earned so you're telling me if you had a chance to pick a quarterback right. Now you had brees for one year. You would pick mahomes over breeze. Yes see what I mean. Sound like Rogers rather wishy washy on their I mean someone throws mahomes. May Say what you want. I mean just the awkward it's Aaron. Rodgers Brett farve type of skill to throw no matter how his body the sidearm stuff now that I go with what you said I would. I I would pay money to see mahomes play yeah but is that just from watching the Games and I love you know certain games or certain teams even though it's not your team. I WanNa see that team play. I started sort of watching them early. Because as a rookie I was mesmerized by a little bit from what I was hearing and he didn't disappoint yeah so I take more personally I would and guess what pro football focus agrees is does agree they do not. That's why said pro football focus they do not agree however with leaving what I think is the best quarterback in the N._F._l.. Out of the top five five and someone who is going to be a free agent next year so there's already talks of a possible contract extension. Were all day to day if you think about it. None of us are really promised just anything so. I'm trying to do the best I could do today. You know just let those sort themselves out. You feel like you're in an extension down. I know you guys. That's up for talk show today. What do you guys think the number rings take a poll T._V. Twelve out for an extension with the Patriots in year twenty at forty two two years young yeah? I still think he's My guy if I'm taking one season to win it all to I'm a sign up that to you captain America. I don't care what they say. That's the one quarterback every every other quarterback is afraid of. I don't care what the numbers say and if he didn't have the stink coming out of New England about spy gate deflate gate what have you he would be number one on everybody's list. He's number number. One on the list of most wins after forty at the quarterback position third on the list Warren Moon with eleven impressive Yup second on the list Brett farve thirteen wins after the age of forty very impressive. I'M GONNA lost Tom. Brady has twenty four wins at quarterback after turning. I'm forty years old and he's about to embark on twenty. I think he's got three more any as cheekbones dive. The definition looks amazing looks like a Nineteen Fifties Norman Norman Rockwell painting whatever he's doing I would do it if I was his teammate. Whatever diet whatever workout he's doing? I would you know what to to my own detriment. I would block out the strength MM coaches and listened to Tom what you put in your body yesterday at Golden Road. Tom Has not put that much toxicity and his body in the last five years I know but he he makes the Marina Vich is like mad like this is what we hoped for in our kid. It just didn't work out that I was watching warm up yesterday at practice and they showed the footage and doing stuff and you're like ahead twenty years yeah I've always seen once seen ninety ninety started two thousand Easter. What was I I was in high a school? I know and he's still bowling. You were still like the shape of a professional athlete I play. I played with a twenty year guy and Jackie slater and when I got to him he he looked like he had played twenty years. Tom Looks like he just came into the N._F._l.. Three years ago where he did twenty years ago I think I'm wow I mean this is before for even getting into the industry couple years before meeting. Democracy remember hanging out at the maximum party in Super Bowl. That's been concussed. Outta me bad memories gone. The way I introduce you to a friend yeah you gave little is got so big that was you yes. Oh my God see right now. It's almost twenty years ago yeah. I know you're right. Brady still remember the Super Bowl party was that when he first showed I don't even know those people anymore updates here twenty years ago Jesse where you're yeah Jesse come on man. We all look alike. I tell you were you here yet twenty years ago. You were here twenty years twenty years ago high school think you're you think you're automobile. I was in high school and now Tom Brady still studying defenses practicing his check down GonNa Practice. That's here's that twenty twenty years ago. What year would that be? You have been concussed. Nineteen be worse than my Esi Jorges slip up remember. We were getting ready for the Y._2. Thing in nineteen ninety twenty years ago I had an eighty seven rating madden rating yeah. I WanNa go back to twenty years ago. It's Tom Brady number six on the list number five on the list. The highest rated running back plays right here in Los Armie talk despite the ten carries in the Super Bowl the fifth best player in the N._F.. I'm done talking about his knee. I am I'm not GonNa Mention Todd Gurley at all. It's it's over. He says he's healthy. mcvay says he's healthy. That's what I'm going with. We're done talking about ton. Todd Gurley and we're done talking about the top ten players in the N._F._l.. The nightrider in Spanish just see the bus arrives song with this. Oh this is thirty four years ago gentlemen Spanish version Eh Nightrider Z. The third the Spanish version of nightrider came out in Spain was he dubbed over with a snacker whose native to Spain doing a hassle awful yeah thirty four years ago what a minute Hasselhoff was the second night writer. What what is it Hasselhoff dubbed over or zoo? That's what I thought Jason Okay Guy who hey what you living. I do David Hasselhoff in Spanish for my writer overseas the most famous person on the planet Happy Happy National Raspberry Cream Pie day cream pie. All right didn't know that that was a day to day national raspberry cream pie day. I have a question for for both of you. Oh boy who gets the come up with it is national day like we say it's supposed to be now. WHO's like hot? Dang it. Yes it's national such and such day like his title days as you can see on this list. That's just one of them will get the others later. Maybe respect for parents. Day also happens to be August okay but who gets to make that decision to markle. I think the same people who make like postcards you know what I mean. They just put it out there and call it a day so there's no accreditation needed. Just call it. A day. Then had an idea during the break. Why don't we have like a day? We make up the morning show we make so we can have a day like today. WE'RE GONNA call. We're going by the end of the show. Maybe you guys can tweet US or instagram. <hes> spin lions which are instagram is Ben Ed Lyons. I am Ben Lyons Onto Araj groves until you're on twitter now or is that a fair how about national go to Vegas Day. Go to Vegas. It's day celebrate the pilgrimage of going okay so cities like Baker Bar Sto Czyz ix road who celebrate these that on our journey well Komo who drive you guys still trying to figure I love Dr Name confined himself in the Desert Raj Ango out there is is one thing now good on the way back is horrible especially. If it's a Sunday I can't do it so bad. Garage would be the kind of guy who and you're stuck. Bumper bumper-to-bumper on the way back from Vegas is like walking up and down the highway meeting people with people. Would you guys do this. Have you ever gone to Lake Havasu. You either a few okay. You know we used to go with a beer bong just jumping from boat to boat during barebones people right. You're that Guy Oh. You never did that. I've they were throwing people out that have done that to me. Oh thank you man we more. I'll bring more than bare bones to man national go to Vegas Day. They show singles day. Everybody's single for one day. How about national receiving the weekend celebrate our receiving cores? How about that? Ah The rams have what the best receiving core in the N._F._l.. According to Demarco I'm trying to think of a better trio this morning. You came in your past receiving core Jane on June because I'm trying. I'm trying to think of a better trio like you think my I mean Cooper Cups thing you think Julio Jones and Atlanta you think Mike Thomas New Orleans New Orleans you think certain guys certain single receivers that you'd put at the top of the list I get that but as far as trio three guys that get equal billing I can't you think of a better trio in the N._F._l.. NAUSEA PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS DOT COM N. E._S._P._N.. Dot Com I second day have they have have the rams rated as the number one receiving the N._F._l.. No who is it well the number one receiving Corny N._F._l.. According to pro football focus and you know the analytics and metrics that that you love DeMarco are the Philadelphia Eagle Okay. Give me that three give me their three receivers. Well they aga- lower yes. They have a sean coming back right. Let's see what I mean to Sean Jackson just got there. How is he a better receiving core than three guys that have been doing it for two years? That doesn't make any percents. He just got news the third one in Philadelphia now well. Maybe they're counting well. Are you counting Titan in Erz now receiving core no. It's me three receivers dot com mature yeah. Well see that's so you say the rams are second correct. No I think they would be the top trio in the league not according to pro football okay go ahead the Atlanta Falcons our number two the dual of Julio Jones who you think is the best receiver in the League and then Calvin Ridley leave the second year good. I thought when you said trio I'm thinking okay the rams and then anybody out there with Joe Wars so the core core yeah more than Matt so we're thinking trail yeah of course you think the top three Minnesota's got a good one with them but they are not but the rams are number three on the list yeah okay another another core. That's gotta be right up there. CLEVELAND Browns same they'll become junior and Jarvis landry potentially. He just got in the way the road the second year guy he bald awed. How can you put them receiving together? I mean you haven't seen them. Play Down One and you put them in the top five they played at L._S._U.. Yeah that's College College the time the best duo in the N._B._A.. Lebron James and the other end the best. You can say about any of those parents potentially. It can be great because we haven't. I've seen it. This is sports talk radio tomorrow. We have to irrationally state that. I understand he's quoting pro football focus that is not sports talk radio. How how can you put those three guys together and say they're better than focus ever do to you? Nothing saying they're gonNA look up some article. Oh about DEMARCO far no football housing that says why I had I had no doubt that I have no doubt that that squad in Philadelphia Eh if Wednesday's healthy will be as good as advertise but the put them number one when you haven't seen play number one is kind of cart before the horse. Can you have the top up receiving core in the N._F._l.. If you don't have that big time Rod Tidwell if you will look at me receiver because the rams don't I'll have that they have the over the threatened cooks but he's not one of those Julio Jones Michael Thomas. Oh my God I don't care how it gets done and <hes> either a trio or a guy like Mike. Thomas is a guy you can jam the ball to one hundred fifty times a year and win with right on Sean Jeffrey. That's that's the yeah so that's why we've got about so you're anti Jeffrey Nelson Agla and Sean Jackson Sean Jackson them put right potentially yes great but we haven't seen them play together. Have we know okay so you can put a team that you haven't seen the other can't number wine. Wait let see job to mark out and we forgot about Muhammad's to news of the foul. Oh yes no you don't say we don't know pull me into your nonsense fantasy <music>. Hello magazine were five deep. Is this all your football stuff. This is how you get your foot. You buy a program at a Sporting Shonka from our lead scouting God's. Oh I go to guide sends me. These are lads is the ball I love joint thank you I appreciate that bathroom reading what or plain reading yeah absolutely goodstuff John Ireland calling up at seven thirty. You're going to give us a state of the dodgers plus a Laker insight as well you think he's hitting the panic button. I'm not making a trade. What do you think give me A? I thought he was Kinda. Cool yesterday John Ireland does not care about prospects one bit because he was like did he freak out so I think John's a little upset and it's more if if you had to take a guess plus it's national girlfriends day as well as the respect for parents day also national minority donor awareness day cou they want to donate our credit national girlfriends day K pop show the people this morning show hanging out with the Marco far out to POA Woah. I'm looking at the rundown and I don't see birthday on her usually give Amish to the k pop with the birthday. We'll what's the deal. Are We plan both know how much you guys Love K pop on this show you the cultures we celebrate these artists and actually have a K pop connection shout out to Boa. She performed at my birthday party in Vegas back in two thousand nine yourself L._B._J.. who was a great night? You can look up Ben Lyons Birthday on the Internet. I missed Cape Up. My friend was like Y'all got your President Boa to perform at your birthday how how that is dull k pop so Tommy Tommy there. Do we sell it was at Around seven thirty to talk about what they did not do at the deadline but cancer open and deals are getting done in their holdouts all across the N._F._l.. And probably the biggest name in the whole world to now actually sign a deal as Michael Thomas had signed a big deal keeshonds nephew yes nephew and in keyshawn and was once the highest paid rec- with his second deal he was the highest paid receiver in the League as well so he knows how they say it's key two point oh so but he know Spanish how many more Zeros on Michael Thomas Check than keys acquired it by a lot of more pinero breads with that Michael Thomas Checks sixty-two guaranteed hundred million they essay and he's all locked up in New Orleans obviously one of the best receivers in the game so that Zeke Elliot and Melvin Gordon as sort of high <music> file offensive holdouts yet camps. This summer are science. I between Curse Mike Thomas. I think that's going to be great for New Orleans beyond drew brees like like when Teddy Bridgewater takes over that's going to be seamless for them. Breeze steps out bridgewater steps. You've got Mike Thomas to throw too smart. <hes> he's great the the the other things the other two <hes> the only ones that really matter when you think about it Zeke Elliot and Melvin Gordon. I think Melvin Gordon comes back before Zeke. Does I really do I think Zeke Elliot going to dig in on his contract demands and I think he's going to get it now. What Rogers going to refute? I think Jerry's GonNa go down to the wire. Jerry Jones Jerry Jones does not mind going into the season with holdout. He did it with Emmett Smith. He'll do it with Zeke Elliot. How'd that work out with the cowboys they went to I think he learned his lesson and then what happens truck and pay one of the greatest running back but what happens once they got Emmett back in the fold? Do we won the Super Bowl right. That's what I'm saying so we but I mean I mean this is not going and look Jerry. Jones is not going to blink and Zeke Elliott has got to be strong enough and he's proven it by going to Kabo. He's GonNa play Jerry's he's game. He's going to dig in and keep himself away from the team. He's keeping himself away from the country nice in life. When you have to prove to the world the society built around find yourself to show those who might question your fortitude to your strength that you have resolve determination? I will prove all the haters wrong. I will go to Kabo -solutely lutely demark Breyer for a hold out. You have to have money in the bank if not you're going to be going back sooner than later but doesn't jury no it hasn't he learned the cobwebs as you know. The cowboys boys'll deck isn't a third and long quarterback. They need Zeka snow way important to that all your more in the mind of Jerry Jones than I am. He actually thinks Dak Prescott is elite. That's what he thinks okay right. He's in the minority. Bobby Carpenter had to say about the cowboys in their quest for super bowl and the need for running back. It's not necessarily necessarily. Do you need the N._F._L.'s leading rusher. You need a good running game because as much as the N._F._l.. Has Changed and it's his pass attack and everybody looks at it like that the teams that have made it to the Super Super Bowl and the teams that have won the super bowl have been really good at running the football and some teams like the New England Patriots they build up by committee you look at the New Orleans saints what they they were doing tomorrow. They do it by committee. The Eagles did it by committee. There's examples of that but they also started building that committee in March as Bobby Carpenter Sir Ben Lyons. You're hanging out with DEMARCO far E._S._p._N.. L._A. Damore Carpenter the linebacker yeah first round pick a favor not a favor but a parcells picked him because his play that sound bite. I know I'm GonNa like him better as an analyst I hated him as a player yeah yeah I I liked that. I liked that breakdown. It's happening often for the former players in whatever sport you're watching T._v.. A couple of years after you're tired and you're like I hate that guy. I hated him as a player I did. I couldn't stand him. I I begged every team that played against him. Just run the ball at him really arosh. You're you're you're right where doc is not elite and he's extra not elite without Zeke. No we learned earned that when Zeke Mr six games and he was called on a dock was called on when they were in third along situations and demark. I hated that they're gonNA pay him elite money for. I think he's ever no choice voice. What are you GonNa do go? You're going to start over. You've invested what how many years in Dak Prescott you're stuck with them. Now you have to and that's the price of doing business. I'd never understand sports. That's what we have to give him as. I don't think I think we have to pay Barry Jones who by the way pro football focus is number one cornerback. I think we have to play Jalen Smith. We just paid a demarcus. Lawrence are a pass rusher finding pay cooper pays Zeke and then you give me an average quarterback in there and we do the same damn thing. He's absolutely paying attention to this Dr Michael Thomas Deal. You know if you're Amari Cooper agent this morning you call Jerry Jones and you're saying hey buddy not in that tier man. That's a mistake yeah but if you think you're in that PAT's here I thought he would call one point. I thought Amari Cooper wasn't that group and I still think that guy's there. He's a great runner. He had a case of the drops. He's with okay okay now to his credit. He left drops his in Oakland. So maybe a change scenery. No he deeply will this last year but he's not elite like Julio in Michael. Put Him in New England. I bet he's elite deep put them in New Orleans. I bet he's elite put him in with a great quarterback. I bet he puts up elite numbers. I think he is talented but I think he is held back by WHO's throwing him the football all the way there are all these other receivers out there over the years who have trash thrown on the ball they look at A._J.. Green he's been able to put up elite numbers with having the rocket the beige water water pistol back. They're water pistols. You have back there Hopkins look at his quarterbacks before one of the great receivers in this generation so oh yeah you can't just say well. Amari hasn't had enough top guy dare car football to you. You think he's elite is better than a lot of the guys we just mentioned. That's not he's not a beige as water because he's better than Dak Prescott. Does that does not make you elite makes you middle of making it makes you middle of the road ally pay all the road quarterbacks back Max money. I'm just saying hey I'm talking about if you put Amari Cooper in with an illegal put them in green bay with Aaron Rodgers. Tell me he wouldn't put up. He'll eat eight numbers with a guy that can put it anywhere so you think so. You're saying he should get paid as well. No no I agree with you. I mean your numbers. Don't back that up. You're you're not in the Mike Thomas Category Okay Yeah but I think he has that sort of talent I just I just think all these holdouts whether you're Zeke whether you're Gordon <hes> it unless you come back like Aaron Donald and put up he man numbers it really creates problems on teams and can create dysfunction and you look at the steelers dealers they were never able to recover last year despite having some individuals success from Connor and Juju the team itself culturally just felt lost as a result of that holdout so now here you have Melvin Gordon here in Los Angeles holding out and it doesn't feel like the same type of case that Zeke is making. It just feels like a distraction. We're sort of the chargers than the cowboys have surreal choices to make as an organization. Do you think Mellon Gordon deal gets done and he'll miss time well the way I see that offense and there are so many people to worry about including Philip Rivers that Melvin Gordon is a part of it. I hope that's no DS. I hope that's no disrespect to Melvin Gordon's. I think he's phenomenal. It would be like take Robert Woods holding out for more money with the Rams Hi you're part of the you're part of the whole it's not just you. That's doing it in Dallas. It's Zeke back. Zeke is getting it is getting it done on offense on the other side. It's demarcus Lawrence right so they paid him. Pay Your other guy on offense with the chargers mergers a little bit different. I think they can get along without Melvin Gordon. Really I really do agree Austin Eh cler and the other they have another running back back there teams that run by drew drew brees yeah and has a decent and I think he hasn't been there for years and I think Anthony Lynn is competent enough like you said if you're going to do it by committee he's already started by now. You know what I mean gene so I don't think you're dependent upon one guy outside of the quarterback like do running back by committee and have warning. You're running back. Be An elite Guy. That's what the rams are this year. I'll give you some bromide. An old fashioned an old adage by old coaches if you've got three running backs that means you don't have one that

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#235 Ayesha Hazarika: Why Are We Becoming So Tribal Online?

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#235 Ayesha Hazarika: Why Are We Becoming So Tribal Online?

"Hello and welcome back to another episode of Control. Delete my guest. Today is his idea has rica. She is a columnist and broadcaster best known for her insightful and witty opinions on current affairs and politics having started her career a stand up comedian in comedy. Basements all over the country. She then took what she thought was a natural diversion into politics as a special advisor for the Labour Party. auty helping politicians on speeches media and policy as well as heading up initiatives on topics such as women and equality in two thousand eighteen. She took a comedy show girl on girl the fight for feminism on tour across the UK including a week's run at the Soho theatre which followed a very successful two week. Run at the Edinburgh KNBR fringe. I sold the show at Soho theatre and it was absolutely hilarious. The show looks at the current state of feminism with humor and honesty and it tackles topics such is harvey. Weinstein me too and Cavanaugh as well as looking at the media's obsession with pitting women against each other in two thousand nineteen I e should took took over as editor of the Londoner the Evening Standard daily diary section plus. She writes a popular weekly column for the Evening Standard which I always love reading. She was also awarded an NBA in the two thousand. Sixteen Queens New Year's on his list for her services to political service I share is is such a busy interesting person. She was such a great gas and I really enjoyed this conversation. We first met at a dinner awhile ago and I was lucky enough to be sat next next to her and we just couldn't stop talking so he thought she would make a really good podcast gas to which she definitely did. We spoke about refusing to not be put in one box. Folks have fascinating career and how she makes it all work on a daily basis so happy. Enjoy this episode and if you did please go and leave a rating or review on I.. Chains right now as it really really helps boost the show so I hope you enjoy it and heritage is so one of the reasons why I was just so like drawn t when I first met US wireless because I'm quite obsessed with people who multi hyphen. It's and I feel like on one hand you are. You know you've had an incredible career in the political world but you're also a comedian and you're all say very much in the kind of comedy wild and they used to. I don't know feel sometimes. They can't mix but they clearly can actually a wonderful mix. I know it's it's sort of worked out really well. Uh now I got this kind of new strategies will were doing journalism. And I edit the Londono on the evening standard. So it's like my kind of careers just taking all these twists interns and what I loved by Your Book and the concept of what you do is the side hustle. Because that's kind of how I built my career up. The pit has just been like all. I'll give that goal. Try that on the side and it has all miraculously come together although I have movements and just it's like this is hanging by threat like all tits off eighty minute now. My mom would be like you should have been soft lawyer. Something I'm like. I know I know I know but I think what I like about what you do not see. You've been drawn to me for the same thing. Is that when I was growing up to be one thing. And you're to throw yourself into what really really heart art on just like progress on this trajectory in a profession. Ideally and I think what's being satisfying is to sort of break that mold and show myself and other people if they're interested you can map out you in course and you can do lots of completely weird and wonderful and random things and you can try pricings and some things go well. Something's don't be there's so many interesting options out there for you. It's so true and under the umbrella of you as a person you can then bring them all together. Because I know that you're you're known for your witty funny take takes on politics so it's kind of why not use these skills and all these things that you're interested rested that makes you stand out. Even more at anyone ever tried to kind of Mulji will try and keep you down or try and like kind of take that sparkle off the human side of things or have you always always being like no. I'm going to do it my way I mean. I think I've always just ended up doing stuff more weeks. I'm really bad at doing things any other. I think like most people you do based when you are doing something that you love that you're passionate about and you're good and that you authentic if you're kind of forced into books that doesn't quite fit like shoes experience quite so easily but I do think one of the things that has always been a problem is that people have wanted to put me in one particular box and it's hard to do that so when when I first started doing comedy I was a civil servant by day I was working at the Department of Trade and Industry and I was very serious government. Press Officer by David Mys- oh of skirt and heels and they're not kind of change in the news in the evening into myself scruffy jeans and the top on the road and be doing stand up comedy in Manchester Manchester in the evening and then come back and be in the Office for eight o'clock the next day and I think at the beginning people were like I. Just don't I can't get my head around this like what is going on. And how can you have two worlds. How can you be briefing national journalists on behalf of the secretary of state during the unending nor gags like in up somewhere in the north and in the evening and people just couldn't get my head around and then when I started to do more comedy stuff and you have meetings with people I mean? TV people loved. Put you in a box. All they love label in kind of like. That's what you do. You just makes you if you want to have an identity crisis going to have a meeting with the TV TV production company and they're like what are you. Are you a funny lady. A you a clever naty. You political eight eighty. Are you a Brian lady a US spicy lady. I'm just gold this so many labels being thrown at me. I don't know what to do with myself and I feel that you're always reminded of your age even if you're like really young in your twenties while you know you are Inau in the young young books anymore and you're sorry I'm twenty two bit now. We got someone WHO's like sixteen. Who's like really really funny? And she's really sharp is where all my God and then I actually funding as well when I when I met with agents who are brilliant. And they've been really great great great relationship with them over the last couple years when I fast met them one of them whereas like so. You're saying to me that you just come Labor Party your political advisor. You've been stuck in Westminster for twenty years and you think you're funny as well. I don't know if that's going to work as a combination because I'm not GonNa lie to you. I don't know if my corporate Britt clients when after Dinner Speaker Just Bang on about politics the whole time and of course i. That is the thing in everything that's happening. So we had a conversation the other day and she was laughing offing. She saying gene. She's I remember that conversation. She was like you were so right to kind of you. Have this belief that at some point people are GonNa find politics really interesting you and you can make accessible and so a bit funny just you a bit less heavy and she was like you're so right and I know the one time I've been royal. Yeah because Edinburgh fringe seems like that was all people talking about. 'em Is politics and and you have this. You know expert inside inside insight. Do you think that added 'cause I know when I've into other really interesting. People in politics like Jeff Phillips for example it helps to be not totally in it from the very beginning to have some sort of objective opinion from actually having a life outside of it. I mean I suppose for me. I have sort so been around a long time because I started working in Westminster Nine hundred ninety seven. So that's like a long time. It was like a admin girl at the Ministry of Agriculture. It was a very glamorous beginning tonight in my life but I think you know I kind of did lots of different jobs in the civil service I then oversaw obviously saw during my stand up comedy and what in the music industry for a while I worked for a big record company. Emi For two years and then went into a sort of senior political advisor advisor was known as a special advisor I was in government and then we're not position so I've probably had lots of different vantage points and I think because there were so few people like me in politics women of Color Muslim from a background. That really wasn't very political. You know immigrant parents you the group they were very much like look politics not for people like us we just have to keep our heads on. What really really hard? That's like a luxury that we can't afford so I did. Always I think to your point have a bit of that feeling that I was sort of the outsider. You might come into this world which was very privileged very interesting very well connected like you meet eight people in politics and it's like oh how did you get your Jordan. It's like Oh well my dad's and his friend in and there's a lot of kind of nepotism I think I always have a bit of that right site of feeling still going on you know even though have been around for quite a while. Yeah I mean this is an assumption that might not be true but do you think sometimes as well when when people see a women being very kind of confident in their abilities and my. I'm going to do this and I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. Do you think it would be like. Did you know any men who are also comedians. Do you think that that would be more palatable for some people would you think. Just in general the MEX- people can't get their head around it. Sometimes I think people kind of get their head around more now because you partly just because politics has exploded and I think but you do have an aussie like I think in media circles nine because people knew what my thing is. It's it's less of a curiosity. But with Daphne when I start to you know people were like are so your your so you former political advisor Andrew standup comedian. People fall about laughing. That would be the funniest thing I'd need not to say a joke and sometimes when I'm doing after dinner speeches or stuff which is very much outside the bubble things which are very very male dominated. I didn't after dinner. Speech a really big event and it was basically all older men and somebody so funny guy came up to me and thought I had wandered into the wrong room and said all loved. This is like some kind of a newsom heating conference this dinner for the Heating Conference. I think there's another one in your dinners. During the REU turned down a couple of immune rooms I said no no. I'm I'm the after the speaker and he just looked at me when you the afternoon speaker he went. But you're I went women and he went. Yeah and I'm pointed to Colorado it broadened UN Yup. I'm at who you expect to be honest. I was really hoping in both of them just like I'm really sorry. I'm no in Bootham but what was funny because the audience was clearly not prepared for me expecting somebody like me new political funny that they it could get that opportunity to get out of their tiny mine. I think it beginning all like absolutely gossip was like arms folded meek me laugh but I did make at the end. I was like pretty much like they were like right coming out of drink with us now. You're really funny. And you know your staff and I want to ask me questions while let through questions I can answer so all the questions and they want to get your like respect. You're talking about and I saw thanks ever watch for like confirming like I knew uh-huh yes kind. I do have rain thank you but how do you go about preparing your Shays as kids overseas. You are incredibly busy big role at the evening standard. Is that very much still a kind of carving out time on the side or aw I mean it's a it's an editor shy is kind of paying Joel. Oh it's absolutely huge and I mean I've taken a year off this year because of this new rule evening standard which is like a big job in an editor of diary of two pages to fill. What is what is just such a well known iconic role it is? It's it's great. I mean it's a real real real privilege and kind of you know I love doing but I'm conscious that it's a new Gig for me and I WANNA threw myself into it so I I just thought right this year. I'm Justin Kauffman some slack. Naught didn't go train last year. Probably won't go this year. But you know I've had big jobs. I had to be jumping assurance. CNN which. I was doing three times a week. when knighted other issues it is hardware. It's a real labor of love doing a one woman shoe and I have to say you know my my respect adoration goes out to anybody who's creator but I think there's a there's a special type of trauma doing stand up comedy as as a woman and writing. An Irish show is a long in time. And then you have to write it. You have to craft your material. You have to preview. Your previews are always horrendous. When you you know you thought you were like hilarious as you were like writings of half drunk at three o'clock in the morning and when you test at nor dangerous God this is awful? You have to go to Edinburgh. There's a lot of mental pressure as well because it's incredibly competitive you you then go on the road you tour it you know. It's physically pretty exhausting to ring and you know there's lots of ups and downs mentally in terms of the audience as you get and how well you think you're doing so it's hard what it's an amazing thing to do. And when you have an Edinburgh or one hour of material that you're really happy with breath I'm for me. My Lash reproach off it was called girl on girl and it was all about the me too. I think you came to see the so. I was so after that because it's so hard on it and it was the said exactly what I wanted to see. I felt like I was being really really honest with myself and really authentic and you felt felt like it was funny but had a message with this world and when you get a chance to do that and it works and everyone's laughing at the right places and gasping at the right places and applauding at the right places. You're uh-huh this amazing. This is worth all the pain. Yes oh I love that show for the listeners. Who might not have seen it because it's obviously about feminism metoo about the coacher of pitting women against each other? Did you feel like you know. Feminism has every right now everyone's talking about it and is almost like comedy gives that it thought space to kind of have some nuance also have some fun with it and also say we really think what we're all thinking. Oh totally because I think what does she made me think about I was you know what you're saying is when you when you go on. TV or radio and do a discussion about feminism or Discu as a cold in my thing you d he never really get the chance to have a proper 'em layered nuanced complicated discussion about feminism. Because like most things in life feminism is not straightforward. It's not easy. There's lots of issues to unpick but suddenly you in the studio you've got three minutes you're pitted against some of the women and they just expect you to go attic hammering tongs and you never have a satisfying. I never hear it. Satisfying discussion about like the gender pay gap opportunities for for women at work or women on boards. Awards it's always a ends up being quite cartoon in terms of like you know enemy an enemy be. It's like gladiators ready so I thought I really WanNa talk about some of these issues in the show. The humor in any capacity is a great way of communicating difficult issues. Because if you can take the piss out of yourself where you can take the report of an issue issue and you can make people laugh. It shows that you're not super grand. You know you. You've got self awareness about the issue or who you are where you're positioned in the debate and then that can give you the permission to open up some quite interesting. And quite challenging provocative discussions because one of the big things in my shoe is that excludes excludes I am a oviously huge feminist agrees feminist apprenticeship with lots of great feminist like Harry Hamad but my feminine the feminists might be taught is quite a white middle-class educated left of Center Liberal Party progressive type of feminism which is fantastic. I love and I bite by it but it also also made me conscious that look there are other types of women out there who are battling feminism in their own spheres like even for my own culture as a Muslim woman. Knew my mom's mums. Feminism is very different for my feminism. That doesn't negate her. Feminism black women a really underrepresented and women of color. Really look look at this Samir. Ahmed case am at the moment. So it kind of allowed me to go into those and explorers conversations. But because I'd given people plenty he to laugh about it just made having those conversations easier and it made the messages. I think land a bit better than if I just be night finger-wagging gang and I'm going to lecture. Everybody about what I think is the right type of feminism totally because actually I mean it would have been an amazing tedtalk equally as brilliant at the same time. I don't know what it is about our brains that almost laughing we're reflecting and going I just laughed at that and maybe that has made me feel icky that I'm laughing at now all because I I'm I'm always made to feel kind of awkward in the audience and and so this kind of weird reflects what you're laughing and then you immediately think To Be Lafayette and also I need to go and do some work on looking into that topic or whatever is more worker myself. Yeah AH coming from Edinburgh. I need to work on. We all day Also Edinburgh I think needs to become more diverse in terms of the audience. totake I really feel like this is not. This is such a kind of melting pot of conversation and I am in a sea of old white peop- I know but I do think that is very true of new sampling comedian's going the route as well you know in our record things which are fantastic. Let the news quiz or or anything like that or the audience for have I got news for you or something. The audience is do tend to be white inordinate partly. That's because they can get off work and I'm getting to do during the day. They can come and see see things. But I think you're right. I mean I also think that the performers needs to be a bit more diverse as well so edmore is definitely diversifying vying. There's many more performance colored women but I think classes big issue as well because it is so expensive. I only can go during that kind of really busy mid week because I get a discount with The travel company got with. I honestly don't know how people afford hotel rooms. It's so so so expensive and I do think think it's a shame because the genesis of the festival was to be that place where you could come up and you could try something and you might get discovered and you can practice your craft and you can have a little like Bohemian month. We work really hard. But it's it's not gonNA kill you the rest of the year and it's so prohibitive if two people do as the as the use of I mean I've been going to Edinburgh for God US News News. I mean it is very very middle. Class is very much you know still still got that kind of not quite footlights but it's sort of it's got that kind of buell to it. There's lots of kind of just talk. Wins and sort of pitch limits and Thinking of this Improv grief. I went to see in Glendale. Just leave the hanging. And he was he went to Oxford and his and he was like mummies in the audience and he had like a center slapping around and I was like. Oh no like not then why we don't need more of this. I mean that's probably just another day Westminster's well Oh gold. Absolutely I mean I was always really really struck when I was in politics like you know. I couldn't believe I was just genuinely really really surprised. Because I was like Shirley politics is meant to represent the the the people that you get to Westminster and it's it is such a closed shop. I mean I used to find the. IBM These meetings with these all these. He's young male advisors and they all the same and they all sounded the same and he'd hold onto same university and they were all called Bob home inside so if you ever go. Have you ever give can view some Westminster scooper bowl. Thomas Lyon full abuse and then there were so few people of color I remember I got this job at number number ten and I was like the even not dark. I'm literally be like Pale as like a really rubbish grown person. We failed inappropriate brown person. And it's like I got this job. I was meant to be writing. Thank stuff and clearly. They needed a an ethnic person to do some sort of ethnic engagement. And Gordon Brown's like you you do necessity and so I got roped into sort of be. Knock the official be ame lease on person is thinking. I don't even know anything about anything. But my own religion back so this is really not going. uh-huh and I remember going walk-ins parliament. They were so few Muslim women or Brian. Women the light me. They got confused with like device. They were like cutting going and I was like. What does this nice so polite in and like the actually think divorcee whose lecture of the conservative part Oh my goodness because that happened? Recently I've noticed with There's two comedians and everyone just keeps getting them confused. I'm like this is literally the most obvious actual tangible like proof. uh-huh something is seriously seriously wrong but you know April it's the whole diversity thing it's become again like one of those things we talk about illness a bit like. Oh It's also woken. You can let your own but it is so important like whether you walk into parliament. If I'm really honest as well pretty much every newsroom. I walk into whether it's a broadcast newsroom or or a newspaper newsroom. You probably have the same experiences when you're going into sort of big companies and things like that you know we have still such a long way to go on the most basic basic points on diversity and while everybody sort of gets it from an intellectual point of view the Daphne get at memorial point of every keen to do what they can. The needle. Just doesn't seem seem to be moving fast enough and you just think it's such a no brainer if you're in politics right now you're thinking what gets massive election coming up. Everything stakes are so high. You're trying to pitch to your electric. which let your customers who is there in your H. Q.? That really understands about your different customers. There there isn't one type of human being largely white largely male largely from a middle class background oxbridge educated probably south of England London. Pardon basis. Like even if you take if you just remove this politics and you're like even this as a marketing strategy is not a good idea. Should he should get some expertise into into high to get some of your other customers. But the penny just doesn't seem to draw in politics or the media actually yes and because whenever I hear you know incredible speakers talk talk about the need for diversity. Sometimes Gino Walk. I would like to think that everyone was a good person. They've just been even a quality but the other argument is literally like there's a financial gain and look at the profit margins of some of the biggest box office hits the moment where the cost is predominantly people of color black lead roles like. This isn't just a that people need this. We need this absolutely and I remember when I worked to emi for short periods of time. And I worked for the global. The Chairman of the company I remember is being in a board meeting and I was so sitting at the back and making notes and I looked around the table and it was basically. It's all older white white men and nobody had any hair. Everyone was bold and they were having these really torturous discussion going. Why is it that we just cannot crack the black urban market in North America? Why can't we get into the HIP hop market? That could see the light just bouncing off. Their light bulb has thinking. This is the reason the look around the room. You're all very good on the golf course. But you're not very good at your hip hop. Let's be office. Oh my God I it's enough to make you like I am not personnel personnel. Where like if would man does I am just bit by? I can't I just don't even WANNA listen like I'm over like you. I love the can't even feign polite female interest anywhere for. Come Cymru yes. That's the sign. This is a sign that you really beginning of your best life. I think is a feminist. And you just get so grumpy with people just like I just. I'm not listening anymore. Like shh Shh. Shh Shh so let's talk about your call quickly because you use you write such common columns that means the world. It's pretty hard. It's a hard thing to do. Isn't it kind of come up with an opinion every week and also something to say. How do you sit back and go? Okay what do I actually think about. This verse is kind of going and being like at. I can't imagine you athlete. Following the crowd on on a like mass opinion. But how do you kind of reconnect with like you'll true. Are you feeling from for me. It can't be torturous process because I am. I definitely monitor. Of course what's happening on twitter as much as twitter is a huge time. Thief is it's just part of my world as a commentator. Somebody who's engaged with what's happening right now. What people think so you do? Sometimes you are shaped by what you see on twitter. I am conscious thinking. I don't want to just be like pirating. What my Echo Chamber is telling me? I should be seeing on twitter and I do. Do you find a deadline. Obviously I do start trying to think of like holdem like about a day in advance. Just I'm just kind of my head is getting more and more kind of confused. I've done a new thing now. I just I've kind of cut down on my face. I used my procrastination just used to take such a long time so I kind of have have a strong thought which just comes to me. Normally the day before. Something's happened in the news and then I jot down some stuff. I tend to due skype papers on a Tuesday night. So that's quite useful for me so I go to. The newspapers am on Sky News. We do 'em tomorrow's papers to tonight so that gets my brain in kind of going as well like I'm home and it's quite late spots at one in the morning. I kind of write some thoughts. I used to write in my column four in the morning by stop doing that. I know of probably right about half one. then go to sleep with yards and she waco asleep on it so I just get my thoughts going in my head and then I get up at five and just there's no time for faffing Rodney as as you head is really clear. Because I don't look at social media at that time in the morning and let's go right. This is actually what I think now and I think the best advice I ever gold the best I ever heard was fantastic right. Tackle Matthew. Dan Kuna who I really really admire. He also writes evening standard as shown the same day as me. And he beat this Speech at an award ceremony for comment writers and he said the best thing you can do is don't think about either the pres you'll get or the abuse that you we'll get just write what you want to write. That's really good advice. That was it that kind of stays with me because sometimes I will write stuff right. Mike Bit Frightened particularly if I'm writing something about politics because people get so angry about women having political opinions and never having the right political opinions and I get attacked a lot from the right attach lot from the left as well and I find that very very hurtful actually getting attacked from the left feels more painful to me and sometimes when I'm writing my thinking God is i. I really clear my head and think new. This is what I believe and this is what I believe right. Now is the argument that I want to make and I making it with integrity and a good faith and just get the words and yeah and you just going to be brave about your. Because I guess it's like what you said is really good advice. Because I guess you'll job littoral is to get that thought down there and to inspire conversation whether it is negative or positive is still getting people's like juices juices going in that brains and I think that a good column good column does get you think you might not always agree with it. I mean some of the columns I enjoy reading the most the ones that kind of role me up a little and they and they do provoke me and they do challenge being do meet me sort of think about things in a different way. Look I might still decide actually. My original regional view is correct. But I think it's really important to sort of test your opinions and test your beliefs and questioned them. You know people that never particularly not politics. This is so heightened and we've become so tribal in our politics and I think that's very dangerous if you never take a moment to kind of step back and think well do I still think this has the argument. Change nuance. You used earlier. I think is so important. I think we've lost so much in our discourse in our political discourse in our social discourse on our social media discourse and that sort of water and also trying humor as well. Because I think sometimes if you're trying to make a point then using of humor I like to be quite soft deprecating in my columns as well because I think I'm as we'll just get in there for other people do and again I think it's a real. I like to think that this relaxes sleep. Because sometimes when you eat columns people and it's also a hall. I'm Su- clever like I'm the cleverest chopping class. Everything and I like to sort I say to my reasonable I. I don't have all the wisdom and all the knowledge and I'm probably not right like even half the time but this led me to think what I think. And here's why. Yeah that's a good way to kind of open it up and level out of it and kind of just be like look. Come come and listen to. I've got to say at least the tree that we've lost the art of Just like having a good discussion discussion a good argument and not being like you are right and I am. Wrong is an argument this weekend with a friend who doesn't like Meghan Markle an irate. I do like Meghan markle and we like we really went after but not in a vicious way just in like well this is why I think she's great and this and then they were like well. This is why I've got a problem with it and it was. It's like silly really having a petty glass of wine and talking about Mega Michael Barr with friends like we five minutes later we laughing something offer offer something whereas I think happened on twitter. I'm blocking blocking report. Reported Cancer League yourself entirely so overblown on twitter. I mean I've got in me. I tend to try to not to fight with people on because I find it very draining. It's really unpleasant but I mean some of the stuff like been attacked for is just so over the the tall and you like a new person one of the people who attacked me and I just thought I know you in in real life and you better than it's like you. We better than this. And then I saw this person in real life and I had forgotten about this twitter spots. It's a nice over rushed up and I was like. Oh Hi would like gave me. Destiny's whisked around and sort of the kind of like some cough and I was like. Oh my the real thing every Chilai. Yeah I'd be I'd be exactly the same I would think is like all. That was a funny little thing that happened on the Internet snap but surely in real life is human beings. Just be like all right but I do think there is this I think this is really bad of where things that were coming. So we're getting to the stage where it's like. You can't even be friends with somebody that doesn't share the exact same belief system as you believe in everything you you believe in unlike every single thing one person. DVD's on one metric and they are scam and they need to be excommunicated needs to be punished and shamed named and like. Oh it's just so so unhealthy because I I mean I remember when I was you all the different various jobs in things I've mixed with people from all different backgrounds walks of life opinions. People who've really really agreed with people are really really disagreed with. But I'm glad to have had that richness of a variety loyalty of opinion and human being and and I do feel that we're cure eating officer social media but we're kind of cure eating are are sort of lives ticked. I think younger people in terms of right. You're not in my gang anymore because you just don't want you to have that kind of sort of weeding. I everybody who just it doesn't agree with you. Having these kinds of monolithic blocks of just everybody being in a lot of agreement that is not healthy. That will ring totally. That'd that'd be quite good comedy sketch within it like you've best friend of twenty years and walking down the street and they say the tiniest thing wrong and it's like you're gone you're out to me but I think the time will soon come where like it'll be like between will be like. Oh my mom said this is dead. I mean she's no like I always say I have a lot. I have friends who who occasionally would like say something and I would kind of think all not sure a- and then I think they don't spend all day scrolling through twitter so actually it's not really fair to kind of hold everyone up to this standard of light knowing. The word has evolved overnight in something else in the last twenty minutes. We can't we. You can't say that anymore. That means something different if I will some people genuinely like you just kind of need to point out in a polite way. And they're like Oh. I didn't know that thing. Let's I is going to happen to us. One D like I'm petrified of though I mean I feel like it's happening now I mean I feel like I'm literally just a few hours of having a full beard and just it's like screaming random obscenities. Be on the walk outs and getting citizens arrest made on me left right and center. Be Deports what's it like. It's going to happen to as all I'll go writing everyone just a little bit little bit kinder to each other. Just like a tiny bit more except that is actually hilarious. Because I feel like as I'm getting like because being a millennial what was really young at one point now older millennial looking down not looking down but just seeing the generations for low and being like I feel kind of like I could could say something quite wrong and then Nebula all. Don't worry she's just doesn't quite get it like someone's grandma hilarious if I know that that's so funny to Middle Age millennial yeah yeah I feel like then. What does that mean? It's like get me to dignity after this is just like it's over for me. I believe in. I think we'll be fine so I know this is a cliche question but I really wanted to ask you because you got the The chance to say you do so much you sometimes I up till two. Am in the morning writing. What do you do to switch from everything look at twitter yeah? It's a really good question and it is one that I probably struggle with a bit. I am not greet switching off. I mean this as we can I actually was quite feeding ill fluid so I think my body was you have to have a breakdown. Had a full weekend of ages and I just stayed stayed in mice of pajamas weekend and didn't leave the highs and binged on net flicks and go to the and it was. I mean. It was the most restorative thing it was just so good and also because I most of my work is communicating talking or it's writing or its broadcasting in public speaking. Just Nice to talk yes I love that feeling of not that you have to like really deserve it but you know when you feel like I literally like I deserve. Every ounce of this is kind of Sofa delivery day and I'm Gonna I'm GonNa just like the best time doing and I was not a Scintilla of guilt or she knows. Do not care this reliving. My Best Life Right now this is it. I mean I think one of the things which and I'd be interested to hear from you because I look at your brilliant portfolio career. Somebody who had like a regular job for a long time you know in the civil service and then as a special advisor as a Liberal Party of freelance I really for about the last kind of so for years and I think I still have that anxiety about taking taking any time off. You also think advice if I say new to. Something is not able and never ever get asked do that Gig again or is it just really in a profligate of me. Just say new to the earning money when you go pensions auditor and somebody does actually need to do. A piece of work needs to good one view to do. I think there's something something about I know. Everybody says healthcare and time off but I think if you're really busy freelancer. There is a panic about time off. There is like an absolute fear of time off and not really knowing what to do with yourself. If you're not working or hustling or doing admin or doing something connected to your bronze Iran's is think it's really interesting. I think there's a genuine kind of psychological panic that you go into. Yeah definitely do. Whoever is golden has been pointless existence? I yeah and sometimes it is is just totally illogical you know sometimes the good thing about being free nausea. Sometimes you can be like but for thing in like maybe February twenty twenty. Not like you might be doing something. You might have agreed to that you know that there might be things coming up and there will be that you can still be like. It's all over. It's totally totally over. I'm finished through my husband but know it's just like that constant juggle. I always come back even when I'm having the worst day ever I can't help but think I am the luckiest person in the world that I don't have to ask permission to have a day off and actually it's all down to me and that is a scary part. I remember had full time job. You know when you have book off time for a holiday. I don't have to do that anymore. And everything that beats everything I I agree with you my situation slightly chinks. I've got this Gig at Evening Standard. I which I'm doing sort of you know it's quite the full on but I do think it's it's really really empowering Thanou the whether you choose to work or whether you choose to take a day off or whether you choose to book your holiday you or your boss and you don't have to sort of you ask permission of anybody and it's dine to you to manage your time and I think that's so important but also have to say it does make you so much more of a productive passing and I think when we look at the world of work like whenever I go in and do a bit for consultantcy at an organization or might go into like a day where I taught people people politics which or strategy stuff for things. I do think that we are going to. I think a lot of people are trapped in this. I've got to be in the office at nine. A half to stay there till six thirty. I'll have to go to these pointless meetings. My time is not my own. I have no agency over how I want to organize my work or deliver my work walk and our own creativity over my work and as a result the work is not that great it sort of gets done because it you know has to get done and you have to meet the deadline new Greek excitement about it and I do think employers would get their staff would be so much more productive they just cut them. SLOP slop right. Just deliver me this project by this point under when he care how you go about I did have one boss. He was really like that and it made me. She made me kind of realize that I works that way she was like you've got a month to do. This is a huge presentation and it was like a low of ongoing research and she was like a month. An Account. You do it. I don't even care if you come into the office. She's like if it's not amazing and it just it was real like A. I've been trusted. Beer fellow human being who can like sort myself out and get dressed in the morning and also this like site -ment of like I need to nail this at an archie. Did you have like a a meeting with a lot midway through tracking. Yeah it was good but anyway thank you so much for that was super interesting and just got such a brilliant outlook on kind of breaking the rules of Islam. Things differently calling out your own path half life I mean I just think if you'd said to me each fifteen you know I would end up doing all this stuff. I just be. That is incredible because you know I was always told. You can't do this Jason Garlic Couldn't get into politics or see. I wrote hundreds of letters when I was in my teens tomorrow. Twenties to pretty much every media organization and can I just come into free work experience none none and now. I'm lucky enough to have the chance to do all these things in my forties. So I think my abiding message assist. People is look don't be off by barriers because barriers will. Just come up all the time. I still have barriers all the time. I'm sure you have Barry Jones and rejection still election objection absolutely tons of rejection and those boxes. We were talking by input into but don't get disheartened to find another way right. You will always find your way there if you really want something really really tenacious. You find a way of getting. It might not be the exact thing that you wanted to start off with that you'll find something which is just as interesting and really satisfying often. Just have to think laterally. Be really energetic. Keep hustling just hustle hustle hustle. And you will get somewhere that you you are really pleased with eventually. Thank you for that. I also really needed to hear that again food. Just a reminder for everyone out there go for it so for anyone listening to find ah out more about you. Obviously you're on twitter. You have a book. Where can people they can pass? More work My book is on Prime. Minister's questions is called Punch and Judy politics and it's a history of PM cues and just a history about parliament. And I have my column every Wednesday in the evening. Standard edit the Londoner's diary which is every day in the evening scientists pop lot on sky on on the BBC and various things. It's so fun whenever Araya just turn on the TV and you are being incredibly articulate about the world's problems sometime slightly shouting some slightly angry right wing Martin but it's fine. It's all good. Thank you so much on such a pleasure to be only few Emma thank you.

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Josh Kelly talks Avanesyan, Benn & Quigg corner

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

59:08 min | 7 months ago

Josh Kelly talks Avanesyan, Benn & Quigg corner

"I'm also golden if you're not you're so spicy. Listen TO SOPA cost. Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Ringside Toe to toe a boxing. Podcast exclusive skysports. I'm Barry Jones. I'm joined by former fighter and trainer as always Gary Logan Matzec. Yes my glad to be back and this week on a very rare occasion. Macho beauty isn't calls the pretty boy himself and Judge Kelley without you being long day. It's been gone. It's been good. Get Office for swing it's been. It's been Nice train this morning before you can come in of course long runs morning and some parts inbox tonight and go back to and do more life. Living the life way of life living a life always life. The whole professional game is ebbing. You thought it'd be. It is made put a light the people she the glamorous side of fighting I don't see this is is it professionals more demand sportman damages a puget. Short enjoy it. It's more of a boy sporting gear. Do Free Round and your outside. Life doesn't really take much of a toll on yet doesn't retain the hip in professional boxing. Your avoid the crux of life as well as keep shelf in the gym as well. I shall take in over not GMO all time show. It's a big sheriff is put into the day. Awfully evidence will come on get up. Em It'd be all worth it. So what would you attribute the discipline of of not stepping on that? You is that which made main quarters lot door other booth is very strict in very in each on your like. He's he's always texting this date and stuff and a main dish. Come up being living at Adams Throat. Full of pain handful of times so it hasn't really been hard to keep on talk for things to be fish being and the mindset of Arthur. This training comes in. It's been really foolish because it's the Gaiman now to fight where we could potentially get hurt or keep yourself safe. Do you feel is more pressure for this because obviously the the history the last one with the with the Peloton accusations you feel it? Neutral more pressure for this than any other are not actually feel temperatures. Actually feel less pressure now because of the the zone as this monster ten years. Easier World Graphite top-flight and official on tink uncomfortable. I don't in the gym a main. It's it's quality we've been working since the beginning January show avenue. I've let me fought off the gas in from a lot sacrifices for this as you because this is pretty much the second Treaty Comfort the same opponent which is pretty rare. Almost sounds like you have to work staff again. All our new things to the Campbell looks after they've had that so I would have been fights in between the cancellation. He's learned a lot from the other journeys and he's experience will they'll still column pretty much the same guidelines of their look. Avanessian loss for because there will be some sort of pattern in what he does certain things that it does. So let's look at those fights and they'll still work on what they were working on before but they may will make a few tweaks so you've been meteoric rise to this point and I hope he continues but this been criticisms of style substance that. That's what's been dusted. Probably the biggest thing that's be thrown at you. Do you feel is a fine line between promote yourself and the over hyphen? Where does it ankles? You've got your the package the Stream. You look good you styles. Good to watch. And then you feel the need to self-rule should Social media is fickle placeman. Time getting these social media boxes of never WANNA be social media box point Michelle out there and put a little bit and Take to it too. It's I've never necessarily thought. Look I want to do for me? I'm not really like outworn Guy Just saw really keep me shelter. Michelle Phan The orbiter. Parts of what I get on video the whole time. I think that that are and then people put and start over show since he's a lot more substances fight and obviously the stars natural and I've gone after before for twelve Ranjan and give him his. That's that's the thing about your stockholders polarized because you're so good to watch so effective and but it's flashier. Well then that's pair of you make if I moved to sooners parable. You Trust yourself with not just the good work the way flashy with it so we'll make people love you. That's a bad thing. Scotties hobbies. Pm. Polar being polarizing is often good for you because people are still going to be interested at work for work for Naseem. So what for you bank junior? It really does work. You'll get as many people in that arena. WanNa see judge. Kelly lose as many people at one soon win so make you feel people absolutely want to turn to as many people know that so many of us. WanNa see you win but essentially in the Olympics. You said this is a kid is going to be a staff you get a ball but all the people who wanna come all WanNa Watch this you get beat that affect you you just brush it off. I laugh a lot really because I think I think these like Pena Commodities. Get beat like the dedicating their time than he is. She's like makes laugh because I'm not outside the ring I don't really need. I don't really bother if you like it or not. Like to be fair online and do me on. Things are not about whether Putin about with keeping show small end of the day. I don't dedicate Michel to hear anybody. I don't don't like the work and go on to watch the I want to be there when you in sports sports guys bricklayer and bricks today latest war on your boy and watching would decide. I just smile because we're putting ourselves out there to to allow shows the show in dates part. It's part of part of the game show and you have to be honest. Don't eleven fight to the people these are very Robinson? Obviously Accounts Molina's well not the quality opponents and Ray Leonard had called earphones on no way up and he didn't look super impressive against every one of them you know. And he's still found his way to world title because he garnered all those all of that experience fights that maybe wanting to distance who was really then. I'd go Olympic silver medalist going distance with this guy. This guy you know. Don't don't only Scott because you don't know crap about box in your cell. You haven't researched it if you research. What Ray Robinson was Abou- then you could say well. Wow this stage joshes career. This is a tough. I say. Well he shouldn't be doing flesh things. Well you can't do you but almost you can put you have on who you fight him because we ain't got him in the county you just you just back in the day you just so much fighting. You just told us the same way. I'll do have an input on him will address because obviously carrying Chevy. The each is very like those and he wants to put enough pressure to make me think but he didn't. WanNa put too much pressure to all wellness would combine like a guy who said about sugar as if you agree like in smallest Rallo for Giraldo was just an nobody. Owning like putting which one of the toughest model would on rhythmic guys you'd fight and relented that sorta off life and death from the in the Memorial Giraldo. The shape marvel no one gets the credit for HAMAS only with sunny banks all every great fires that these tough fights coming up where they say where it makes you think. Well he was talking about himself. He was naming the round. He was GonNa win and he hasn't done it well. He can't be as good as I don't him and people in the the sad reality is of right that we love the fans but the people in the industry none of US INDUSTRY. You talked to any. Coaching industry would save call than what is. Just Kelly's all these hype. I mean they wouldn't they if they watched the fight in New York would not say that they would say well for fire and he's not fire. gatekeeper so that's an acceptable us. The sector July four. You want it. Would you also as you as a coach? When when I say that Robinson we'll take bureaucracy where people think who played run very good. They're just canopy with. What was Paul? Could you've looked so good year pattern? Everybody all of a sudden he gets his fight people over watch and see how John Kelly or maybe he's not as good as you thought he was. Maybe he's over hyped but as a coach look and think experience is gained. So you look at that. Ever think about all. I ever think about the experience that they're gonNA gain. I look at how he how he dealt with find Madison Square Garden. Some from such a good crowd that if that's not prepared him for the twenty eighth You know to nothing as you know what I mean. And He came through it. He came forward with some difficult periods of the fire. But that's what you're looking at as a coach or we're looking for is experienced David. Hey when he was a Belgian guided four common name and they went to a rounds when it looked like they could've stopped sky went nuts. Oh He's not looking too good tonight and whatever but they got twelve rounds in the banks here and that twelve rounds of experience. Yeah so they noted. David can always Chin people if they hit him if he hits him but he now knows he can do twelve round because this was post Thompson. We didn't know they could do around the post something to stop Tim and then you know he grew so these journeys. Hatton ticket box. Do you feel like ticking boxes? Josh improve it learned off every fight song we shall meet Russia. Fight Media Grow. I think emotionally and physically. Yeah I mean I was ready for our five foot oviously APO of books on the back foot which usually different we export we had smallpox guys. Yankari Goodlatte to remain and respond for South. Paul who's Toilet Adina senior and we had we had partners tall do emotionally action toward a buck for fighting and we suggest that that might be an equal changed the game show. That was all different thing for me. I was like this guy I meet in the first round of August less test. They're pushing button on the fifth and I went to push them back. But this DEJA PHILADELPHIA. Fight isn't these these fighters not fighting inside out using any energy emotion and reasoning is subtle. I was pushing being aggressive written shorts internally. I was quite most repent. Come out the long. Long Range was always like daybreak house. That's a little bit more than should off while east you now. She's played them back to to win. I'm thinking as common. Then he came came came vote now so already in mind's all over the place in a fight we should be focused. Was What you've just done now. You've said that you've gotta wait. You gone to the body but you haven't got a second phase when you come out. Yes and he's coming and you think oh got slot again but what was thought again. We've Adamou says float a come out. You start flowing in chocolate or the other night against Cao gablers chocolates. He just had answers at every angle. Dini and he's just take little steps inside. Be ready to punch again. Not necessarily hard punches but punches up just allows around go by become relevant. Because I'm pretty much sure you'd agree that you're not you're not Tommy hearns of the world. You're not really a one party can be accumulative here. Which is a you need the flow of any of the floor. If you're from here so did you say you love seafield. You must've criticized for the Robinson. Fight off as well. I the she's were only take only from the respect that's she's a militia and you do the criticism. Khanjian goals because like issue. Davide MONUMENT PLAYING ON ONE. One we in my plumlee were actually played. Howard show that's that's the that's the world of boxing budgets. Which is the Bee's Yvonne? Reruns read ordinary. Solid Pro am ause malls. He's a gatekeeper. Before but in your division he might be good enough to a way decided one hundred audio day announcing these fires each boss. What's this guy? Because you have looks on David or David good a a drug and now Russian being unanimous. Let's pick another fight etc. Excuse Lula and then I'm like these. This is just like SORTA like my mind. I'm thinking even agreed fighter in money. He was like a lot of people. Didn't think it looked all up when he's doing these little moments with Nash and the length of his arms it could just reached a distance. Didn't need to work we're in it was It was it was like to me. I was constantly moving because I is levers along month constantly with Abby. I that really outdistance or really. Could you see that mid range because you could just reach reach so it was? It was difficult. Five-point affairs your nick. They put over there. I think you have to really do show justice income away we're defining win but she can do most important. You don't get the record draw. It doesn't really matter. It is to use the approach. But it doesn't matter and also as you as you say and the experience you've gone from now may refer to it woman but also this is the main five days of course the fight. Avanesian testified w asked if that does been promised and it's been a little bit of a little bit of neither between the two camps essay and the interesting we're to hear from Neil Mash and he had to say the press conference. The Fox matters Bruce Common. Don't believe the Silky talked the way speaking. Believe everything this is the. I'm sorry to be an abortion during a press release did but we're just over a couple of events at evening nine before the fight other consumer France. If we don't change the fight from twelve months to ten is pulling out and fight fight says so then Frank Smith Paul. Ready learn nothing. I'm saying wasn't leading. Metro officials are frank coerced into keeping the fight on a different things. It was always a twelve empires. Never tell us what. We agreed the moaning of the pullout and going to his car. Parking's bikes leading Mattru fighters and coaches Lafon. Look she's rich so parking spots always going to me in every wheels. Anyone who's experienced in boxing. You're Santa gloves you check it. You respect the gloves. Didn't even open the case respected to guy in the game when you give enough checking gloves just young guys come comma. That's on the Hash Day. Hadn't been facebook but not be fed to be. It's not like Neil Mash didn't take long right. Didn't renew hear much about him so we always have a massive grievance but gives you a chain of events postponed the pullout. That was funny. It was yeah I will pull off an all part region I was you I was actually. I was weak Lunde. Before but how she always get like again sutin admonition of these things it's Philo bit dodgy reside right. We'll just constantly keep keep an eye on your keyboard easy. We'll get there. Shall we go there we go? We got the wind and everything. We have obsolete terrible like Phil Michelle for cargo on skills. Everything trapper British. On an amish went back the next day it was not actual next day on wall and Adam start to get worried because he or she that night feel free outfield severe button a bed and I wasn't really out for a little bit to get some food in my best for one bar bitch an next year we'll open. I don't come out of it. Caught on in bed shivering sweating and I listen if we if we still fight put on us is like we need on it coughing and his duties five because of absolutely wreck their child is in combat initially Shmona profile. When he shed that really hit is this was like I'll just basically MRS CRIMEA ISO in Botero Surreal. Just never WANNA do. This never killed his and really the killers. Both the antenna will apart. I think right. I avoided look criticisms after fight if a boxed in forgot beat offer got go of all people an excuse for me. I do it hindsight looking back now. It was the best thing for sure I'll come on about a progression of was bit more. She do and it didn't wash Shamo he wants to do. And it was funny. Radio Lord it a lot but like we're fighting also it doesn't rain. He regard attendance around thing. We always wrong. And it was on track ten Ron and do we wait. National title fights and only always ten rounds of well. That's why boxed to win the fatwa box MELENA. I only. It was the night before I was only four. And Scroll Down Island and someone said in interview ready for your heart around us is. She's ten twelve around always ten. You and that's definitely ten. Ten is if the chat knockers allowance. Could twelve as as as he's not standing right and then I said it takes four. Ridi already got. It's definitely 10-rounders issues with them. And he said now they've they've could after twelve issues our dishes slobby this offer. Dallas it because of the SLOP inish we acid due to a ranch but because there's logic the action everything else we can give ten round living into Lebron's I sit among down when she not I don't share. Put you down with attendance. We see that's what this all before this so this. This is the night before the wedding. We're fighting on thinking I'm on on finding I don't feel Abeche find now I feel like I do. I think what I said. Einstein Republican was the way you pull it out that weekend when you felt bath will just with the Wednesday at Chester. Our sitting room right he region in my family also hours then remmy wife was an asset. Northfield to go you get your. Is your big believer on natural social? Let's IT Gar in yourself. Danny flexing anyone you stink of garlic garlic and I was like Saddam we We don't allow offer dodgy and I usually listen if we till the day because the D. might change so we it to the last minute at the last minute. It's Donald those our ever about that. I gave governor that all of it yet. I was GonNa ask you guys and I sit with all the injuries supply that building. When you think the right line to draw when the Rotunda draw the line no wonder we do. Think if you take women if you felt ill yeah. Do you think you know maybe decency of the other guys say this. I'm not going to make you all. Just leave as long as you possibly can pull out last minute. You put last minute. Where does your conscience lion solely on your own fighter? It's a tough one. This is a brutal business and you. Manager's job in a coach's job is to only be concerned about his own file. That's that's what it's all about. They could've they could've released the info adultery Narnia or boxing more control does they. They could have done. They chose to do how they chose to do. Is Happen now? Some people would say not the best way you're gonNa Bay and some people would say listen to impair to wear Joshi now. It was the right thing to do. You know. Obviously someone's got to suffer and that's box. In general men someone wins. Someone loses the flights. Now going to happen marshy. I've never heard him talk like that before. He's obviously China. You can understand. This is the last movie. Yeah then they pull out this. If you for the right reason Skopje bad atmosphere just say face is not worth it but you can understand his shoe on the other foot when you add up for consideration when right. I'd say like I want to get stick for this Got Some stick with me again in in in we actually asked for the first fighter we ask for the FAI. We run almost listen. We WanNA five. We wouldn't do that then. Pull out tournament then. We went ahead and said listen. Well organized early last year and then the European tight lock in an mood that because we wanted a little bit more time in in train them then didn't show in the day we will fight. Now get it on. Washington sees most of all appropriate. Have an issue. I think you'll take a bit of confidence that Pelote you can commit yourself. It was for different reasons is right and I was saying when I was young. Sometimes you've got to pull every positive from every crack possible to get yourself in that ring. Believe IN ICAN witness. Why now at the start career? When you ain't got no experience this will you ever do? We don't do this well or we don't do this. Are we pulled out? I think he's scared away for when it comes down to none of that matters when villges because is fight or flight to be honest he sneaks Tony Complete. So he doesn't if he's taken encouragement from that. I personally think he needs to go in there with the actually the same with Josh Rogin. This is the best opponent that they face. This is their most dangerous opponent. They faced and they've got to find a way to dismantle them and win. That's what that's what you should always like. That can be the only way you can't you can't if you look only others if you look at all of those factors and trying to put him in the back of your head and use them as your Mo what happens when they don't work because when it comes down to Fox's about can I punch you in head more than you can punch me cannot make you miss more than you can me and in can I count of hundred making. This can away you down. Basically maybe one shot. Maybe we combinations but can I beat Obama. That is all that matters everything else. Don't really matter the good thing about this. Fight Styles. Blend well stars. What would you dispel paper? Make a really good fight. Could you got the you got? The boxer flashy moves and bring craft. And then you got avenue news to box himself. Y'All she seems to carry the Polish benches. And these guys suspect is GonNa WanNa put you in the pressure. Straight to play in. Your hands are prepared to. Lebron's or pressure so that brings out. Chris. That's what I prepare for. Let's start performing and like you said the whole. We are confident in the things we're talking about in the past I'm trying I have trained. The artist of the change in life show like of course no worries in my head. I'm going there. Were going to do if it's going to be fine it's GonNa want to tear it. Goes dishes is going to be your five. Where so I'm already mentally prepared Michelle for that. I am digging in that. You think this is a pivotal fight in your career. More than the Robinson fight dead is a win here. Unpicking stall on campus you. It's good that this bit etched of needles because listen. I'm all like I'll after that I was laughing enough. I went on this issue. Cracks me up like neal forty hours like God. I didn't always eat advised me after our view at the raw string the West. Something about John is coach. Stop when at a press conference. This is what we're going to do and did it to the you know. Because he's got a coach and I've made it more. It was all about what he'd done for John. Lewis and the worst thing John Lewis could have done against David Hale was stand tool enshrined he Clinton because he wanted to put. He's ten feet. Avi Not own horrible boring negative genres that night. It could give David an Jesse without him. I don't know personally but the thing without yes look on. His face always told you so you see if you go. And he's like must enjoy it inside is going to be like going all these I actually. He's actually like appropriate goal. I wanted a nice guys. Invoking like there is very close. You WanNA close. Pete lives in life at the moment. Tournaments light we call really good friends as well as as a coach or like. It's it's it's problem onboard. Cheese is which is I let let it get prepared to take on the flack deflected from. You is a really good coach. Trae were if you personally. Struggle is strong enough to do injured for photonic Asif. That was all. He was the outspoken when to call the office who can cope with it by the show. You know Loudon fighter exactly and it's begin a fight one fight you meaning with more and more is course Connor Ben. He's Prediction Avanessian. Fight and stores for an all. British. Show them how I see is Avanessian remember based on the last few performances. Avanessian gained to like. That's that's prediction. But hopefully Kelly can rise to the occasion. You know we're performance hopefully can rice and shot at best. Maybe this will be the BR bringing the best. Should you both come through a March? Twenty eighth is a fight. You want next for your fish fray then yeah you do. Cousy does one that fire now. I mean that's that's probably reasonably hoping he comes from any wins you know. We're probably one of the two biggest names in British boxing in a world weight division and our styles Apollo opposites. Alright shooting approaches things. Apollo ABC's so. Is there any real beef? Listen we'll ask march tornado faraway before we start with days firmer on a flight between you and Kelly. How does it end? Does that end? Listen as guidance kind of one show bony and that's the near Corner. Go in there and I'll try to get paid for overtime so fast they go. This rally view of me wants you. He wants you to win because he won't solve see to get. Do you think that's a fight on your radar that if you're interested in after obviously get yourself an issue out the way then we indefinite new one hundred percent? I'm not really first of all that one I'd love to. I love the stadium without fight to PA. Big fights ending with no. They did just unify stylistically. And this is Kelly. Perfect is sort of going to coffee. Kerr graceful school. It's a great. It's a great I know. Connor Connor really wants. It doesn't solve that Josh. And it's a great fight for everybody as you said. They're the two biggest names in British World Vision now so If there's a big toddler. Europeans outlets you know we've always said wait until the FI which people hate. That word marinate so gets juicy. We've always said let's wait Bob together but we didn't have a home in the homeless and personally. I personally technically Josh Allen. The level of opponents of Joshua's box is far above collins at the moment. You so if Collin is good luck to him but let's let's take care of his business. Just take care of his. And then well it's great for staying alive here come competitive division the domestically alone you champion Kris Jenkins and Johnny Garton is loser. Spending all day naming names. There's a real competitive with domestically that loan worldwide is bigger more wide Crawford. Spent Porter know that your name into those ideas you get this win on the twenty eighth when you see yourself challenging the next fight one call from you said it took challenges now out. That's right time right right right. Opponent going to World Tyler Division just needs. It just needs the right time right place right at the moment. It's stuck their inevitable. Me Like the each tissue on Port with the we were putting all onery out against spend out the best in Sean. Portion of sodas another side to get on that night in which is one of the working world history best-ever fights recent as a damn shame. He's Oh yeah yeah kicked them and put them to keep them combat and just look terrible. He's repeat Spence after layoff about do things like this money. Our still they're like well. He's still de April appropriately. Priority would if money by you due to numerous new for me Crawford. What like this is the most active in the most bit between these little bit right now. Initiative to remain. Ask Ask our you know very very very close books. None of them touch it in it. And they know that they know expend spells part that was pre extant pre-accident. I mean how we go out at our sister. He's just to be says he city is so we'll see we'll see broken. Can you see them? When will follow? It was the way no not. Well I I think you have a better chance at super worldwide. Just bodies better super worldwide. I believe but even that will be tougher grip on the table. Maybe if he is by calling and Brooke option via the interest you owe twelve thirteen against deal Appalachian Board and and that they're not they're not give them 'cause I've asked for fights in a foster shit and obviously it's at risk and rewarded on five because finally or guy and meatloaf bottom potentially beat them show the chelation gain anything beaten his kids who were going to European title Navy about as different story. Obviously time is everything in squad and Giancarlo proved that level stoppage of the Scott. Quick on the weekend there was probably criticism about the call. Holly maybe later than what we thought. He's what the sky panel had to say. It was hard to see at times. It means the PUNDITRY team that they become team. They were talking about how hard it was to Washington. Scott QUAID THE CORNER. Were having heated debate throughout the final rows. David whether they should live record should they pulled him seeing things. Go quick I find out. I finally so frustrating to watch because he was never in the fire it was never in the fire. Anyway through the fight was never it? Just be at this stage. We all knew permanency spy all spoke about how much scope quick got left. It was very clear after coop around was opposed by not. And you know when you when is trading? You know income. You know he's looking. You know the via you know when you get into won't you realize is that don't go to that. You could have custody of model after and you can say always. He's less by land. Go the distance to about the FI. It's something we live up to. Its East odd hard school that you know that one more five twenty five Lakhs by take two more just because of the pride Scott quicken fifty rounded at IRA telling you humid. What difference does it make you go you go? You know you buy if no you know nothing lead to give different it make you go the distance just so you can say where the distance of a man by man emotion for me today watching. Apas I on the Tulsi to come in. In my opinion maybe four run before I was. I was looking at the corner. I'm looking at the corner. And all of a sudden famous DECARLA coastal conversation. Three or four hundred four. There was a big debate. Then you've got to think about if I leave you know Punchy Pool there guys. What do you think gave his own? Career is over criticized of Gallagher Dole. Personally me yes because Jug Attic has been in the game longtime clicks being in the game with Joe Longtime and nobody knows Piggy better than JOE and rich. And I Dave Yeah but one thing on Louis say we've Dave when he went out against a hard punch. Nearly there is no way. Jamie could make that way and be strong. And he looked awful scales. He'd like all these scales so close to the fight at a time. Yeah you all to close. So he's got to know that he's experienced that you know and he made a call and Jamie got badly her and Luckily Jaime came out the other side these guys have got to make a call. Orion so from the outside looking in Scott's not made any indentation on John and I would say that Joe as as Probably made a coal but it's the vehemently of people go in at the. I disagree with there is no you know. Nobody knows defy that in the coach coaches in this game in this country that have been around as low Joe Gallagher as long as Joe Gallagher and he deserves that respect so as standard ivory. I agree from I agree from skype hammers. Opinion that she frampton that you might be imported out but it's the vehemently I didn't like that I just fought you know. Just just make your statement and because as I said. You are appealing to a huge amount of people that know box in and can understand where you're coming from but you also paid into a new era. A new fan invokes in that will get influenced by that maybe negatively so I thought he could throw the total and a few to be honest but also was he. Getting bashed up was just getting embarrassed. I hope matures. How was it? Looked like maybe a few rounds too much but then again. What did you think seniors often called? The eleventh annual Moron left is like what should get. If he's eleven am thinking issue is the twelfth. She got a little bit more nine eleven and a few like all needed there. Would I mean all enemy create? And that's probably she did it. Five hundred temporary assist Tim. Scott says to me. Let me get on there in trade. Muslim which I'd say whatever the two things one some someone some fights don't tell you won't believe as in you know you have. Some fighters is not shared. No don't actually get any back and forth with them as you do. And we've Scott Joe. They've got that relationship where they can talk and tradesmen language favorite straight with each other. And you know Jesus will join the more pressure to pull fighters out if they're in trouble about few rounds or no chance Joe. We weren't changed you. He's Joey Joey. Joe Is going to do what? Joey does Me `Love Him Really. Don't think he has a really good and neither should. Each commitment is to his fires. Scott's at the end of his crew maybe Joan fought maybe in one shot can do Scott believed it. Scott believed he could get one more shot in and when you have a new arrival. We're going around. In circles needs saving themselves and thankfully he did in the end but more so this the win been overshadowed by this profanity or do you think a journalist performance said. I said before you're in the same spot. And it was one of his boss and the damage watch him in a row she journals. Comorans probably my Colin Latin close to him well and I always goes to warn each scene boxing for three days. What's up Fox in East books like launching? Let's put this guy in the rings range bond and the Guy was talk. Call Four hundred hours like when I submit walks at New York. I said listen quick as a great fighter. One that performs assurance in spawn on on Craig's quick our performance. You like that go appreciate it. I think he learned a lot from the Pharma fight again. We keep saying this what we keep the big the big word. This is sesame street year. We have main word for tank. Today's word is experience. Sometimes it's quality sometimes. You need quantity quality over quantity and I think in the quick fight. E pundits enough to get perched on the but still stay light on his toes escape. Maybe I think wanted to short-term oh well until you cut some clean one or two shots getting called I just makes it look clean. Alevi shopping extra ones. That the chart that you're GonNa get time each and everything like if you look on the scales. Quick look these partied a little bit more like A. She doesn't Seem Gail Michelle. Looks you WANNA GET CREEK? Las Jamie moment. I gave Krieger. Good chance going in and then US soil model scales in those tempted. Say or Jay Jay because Jay Jay the mini that little. Gal just not too sure is. This is a wait just a bit too much for quick as well you know. We have to remember that he was a big super bantamweight. Means going to be a big super featherweight lightweight. Say Thank you for that when you're at a trade on strengthen and better power when you moving wait on it but he's GonNa get your your your issue there. You can be medicine presence. But if I'm bigger guys you think the fight for Oscar voters then take like years years from Germany. Monseigneur from you think journal is you go fight. But he's ad will air want to fight against former Illinois law from lung in combat is fresh. I've seen him in the gym or not it. Among on that night the Journal poll masterclass on my opinion but if quick quick retired or do you agree. Conti achieved commingle overachieved. Doesn't he time believing that you're right? Namely Jesus it doesn't Seem Long Ago Jersey. You will in the Olympics. Two Thousand Sixteen Reopen. It is that time again. Of course we're team. Gb Look into the qualifiers and the wave hoping to get their place to Tokyo and Fraser. Clark told our Wall House. Yes he sights set on goals. I want to do what not many people thought could do own approval of people wrong them from a small town. You know we're not know for box in Burton on Trent boy. You know you always get the big cities Liverpool's Manchester and London. Sheffield was getting focus from that but from a small town and I want to make the time proud and just a visualization of seeing may the Olympic Games them picking up a gold medal? How confident are you that you can sign on that podium tense? Twenty one hundred percent. If you know if a car on the way that I've been going the last couple of months flying like I say we've been two years have been an option dies. You're upstages you know while you're flying at one time I come on. I couldn't I couldn't get a win. You know anywhere and then all of a sudden there's something just clicked and always picking up. Gold medals thing on the route to rearm picked seven consistent gold medals on a run of about twenty-one victories All in total afterwards with injuries and stuff you know. There's a few ops. What now I feel like I'm getting back to the place where where I once was in. My best form is mature man rather than being a kid with skill unbecoming fitter stronger. I and I know on my day. I'm I can be anyone in the division hundred percent. What what's the long term? I mean Olympics definitely the first thing on my mind then we look forward to grow into the pro game. One hundred percent Growing up you know who is for the pros or through my teenage is and then go on security the pros and security of one another you were security for this guy shows as well shoes and it was. I had to stop in the end just because he was restrained. Straighten is standing on the side. There watching I just want to be in there doing that. It was so for straight and then You know seeing seeing over heavyweight but you know I take my off them and applaud off. We don't get much credit in in the semi. We don't get many. Tv comes around. We don't get the Lord's that we deserve and as much as people say they don't do if it's not to get on the back now on and I see a Lotta pros getting recognition. When if they communist Jim you know they'd really struggle so I was. Yeah Gel effing jealousies the word. You wouldn't want the camera you want the lights on you. I always knew that it will take time to get there. And when I do get into the program I wanted to Roy. I didn't want to go in. You know COUPLA four five years ago to your it all over now I feel like when I go in. After the Olympic Games I'll be ready to take on the World Olympic Games and this that was at the take back backstage couple of cycles obviously with Joshua and Joyce Josh it was it was called me experience and hot it was just getting. Ads alongside obviously freezes pay. Now there's been a long time now. I guess he's just he's really mouse war room for the for the for the Olympics. Now chance to show everyone could. He is because I've seen him. He's informed and easy. He's very very very good. Going to sound what you stayed. Who was he was bypassed? Josh Joyce in the gold and silver so that justified that is that a less of an incentive not term pro because they they are getting paid in the amateurs and do you think. Do you think I mean maybe fifteen? Twenty years ago. He was turned pro after missing Oakland. The weather no doubt no doubt Mike. Tyson did it when he tried to get into dealing picks they will do. If you don't make the invisibility children Reynolds team. Gb to improperly They don't wait around. Yeah so we've heavyweights as well. It's it's kind of like worth is kinda worth waiting around a bit longer because they heavyweights and they age it longer than I ever. Heavyweight turns say twenty seven twenty eight is still got good eight years in. At least he's got himself off to the right team. Gets THE RIGHT. Fights preserve worry that that he's had that comfort in many ways it's regime may be up in. Sheffield but you have. You will tell us colleague Josh Remember. It's a comfort blanket the been`denied vitamins. Do you think the transition into professional game is going to be a lot harder for him? No she'll tell you why because they do. These sparring workshops all on sparring with the world's best amateurs he farmer the world's best Russian despite the world's best servings of Cubans you regularly in that realm. You don't just meet them in fights you spa with these guys you to work sure so you you you used to that level then you ever see competition nights and they they the pros guys who just to be under the radar. Who HAVEN'T BOXED INTERNATIONALLY. They will never get that sparring. They'll never get experience. And if they do they'll be called in to be someone sparring partner now. You hope that your coach can go with you to this really could elite level. Osama's camp or seem to get bashed up because he knows more than you you don't you haven't been system long enough. Is is a very very precarious one. I still think it favors. The guys are hanging around me. I didn't know that Greg answer experience of the ring. I mean you didn't get county your sleep in we. Can you tell you what to eat when the train what to do? So mother knew twenty four hours a day to improve our changes. Josh on share with you for the transition for being a professional athlete I took responsibility on while attempting to mind whether it actually think monitoring program because I give a lot an image united law ups and downs and honesty in sports law was show up an additional. Sit Down and we. Dad's listen if you WANNA ten professional you gotta give it all talk this provisional unit to give it up so I start to talk about six months maybe six months to ten months out and I was like shit and try and different things and take over a little bit and show us live in life. Okay painting boxes over seven so the chance to live any income off all little bit time and travel a little bit and just get an all things in obviously went out and try item and soon as a tried warmers driving in twenty five and I was like well I'll just mean full mind blown. Contra Super Job on dosage out announced like what added Good Java's amateur job your job to onshore zones no one needed to be in on my. What an we still were on things. Now where like the first day said? Listen this one. This is what on might meet. Should that dish took Mir down on you. Then just got this excitement in betty and I was like issues. Don't believe unaided carry-on big dream may be going again. It was like this full new journey may say before the crash of life is what gets a professional more than actual George Shelf like. You could monitor outsiders words you inside so you can be mean boxer off. Raise o'clock person on all their kid. Is The sports version. Here have any problem but I know people in in homage about around that that common goal as well and the unbelievable boxes and in the system and they don't believe in the system and the like you said it's like school you will be tall wartime. You get wit in. He told the flight right on the verge. Your communities time is professional if we found courtoom. Well let's start but then you got all the time outside the the gym where you're not living with your friends shoes in the same situation yourself back. You might go back and your friend might like listen. We don't want to do this or we're going to send me Cornish. And then you're like she show well. I got to study more so I want to do that. To remain. And then the next thing you know illusion odd is an amateur look looking at the Oscars beating these these journey going in Christie. You try to close on the things on your like wild is not needed lesion. Wsb BE CLOSER FROM NINE TO FORGET. You gotta go six. Oh in Florida since six hours hunting license professional fights. I put a pencil on the night. Annaba visit my hand bandaged my profile. I put the gloves on Iran. Tiny say you can take those off. Your body gets like middle of the day like had a baby and I put them I mean and then I realized I couldn't punch but the guy was boxing could but it's not the size difference folks on the nine how they can get can still. They'll pheno marrying these comeback. Fight off bashed up by Marlon starling. So Mickey always promised me. Take me to Florida and I was on the plains. There's great spot. We've one Freddie Pendleton and I don't remember much about it only to that can costume. It's hard that would be examined the way you need at. Don't remember much about the SPA SPA World but anyway we get to fight night and John. Mugabe's eighty comes in cowboy because I feel that they bring the clubs in and Cutie. Six Ounce Gloves Logan Softens on these six hundred is that these are the wrong but you know what I just keep him. I'm going to keep this. How long before? We Don Cowan heart disease while if that just came to he's over short hopefuls going forward you if they if they can especially get a mental speak of metal hopes calendar the McAuliffe brothers new potholes Gal Grill. Who'd been gold. Don't let the championships anymore. To metalitz. Gold knows it. All metal they can all mentally. Vdt GUYS THROUGH WITH THEM. The last cycle and all the are like they. I think most of them are women. We should rise nominee people we met because this Olympic site will see store. We're going to have been even more about the large mementos everytime go there. And once you get in launch an emmy nominee system in the and the ring and all there's this guy from Cubans. Cuban stepped in the ring. Probably WanNA fight before the win- crazy show once you get an anion you've been in there in the system for like ten years these you step in and the the judge is always this guy. Air Member means good in the console Miami looking on the meat medals this time put lately last Olympics than ever before like really happened. Now we expect rather than hope we will go to Berlin system but the going the professionals to engage in a lot of people are not realize that 'til the off with food. I mean I didn't. I didn't really realize it until this. Well not really. I did realize put doesn't really short set in until this last year because dedication of giving his last year. Just the prioritize. I'll give to book. Shen as like this is on another level of ever give anything in Lima. This is just like you to the to the highest level. Then descend at this stage is tough camps and no not having wars but is a different tune of war in Sporran and having a tough camp days when I I knew that you know when you do twelve runners so I had I had three different sparring partners for his last white and he's win against some hide freedom and the biggest one was the youngest and freshest one and that was the last four rounds holiday rounds of these two. And you know a slide last month's coveted about him but all are wanting to see what was he's Mitla anew. He was going to get caught he knew he was going to get. I just said. Try Your best to deflect the show try. Try Your best to Perry catching counter. Just try and do what you think you would need to do. In the late rounds of a fire composed and that was it to stay. Compose an traumatizing for a while. As I got closer he was better in in las four rounds against a great Sam. Hi that night. He pulled it out. You know so you really tells me are really desma. and preparation the call. She was preparation for this fight. And and two camps to comes along Josh. Thanks for coming in made us be absolutely fantastic. Gary as always thank you guys finished in June. If you can we'll see you all next week.

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Wilder Fury 2 Specialwith Isaac Lowe

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Wilder Fury 2 Specialwith Isaac Lowe

"Welcome to the toaster Topa. Let's go baby. Let's go tim. Hello welcome to this week's addition of ring site to-to-to a boxing. Podcast exclusives the skies boards. I'm Barry Jones and joined as always by the former fighter trainer. Gary the Shogun. Nice to be as we missed you meet. I was totally my idea. I was the more important that join district straight from Las Vegas. It's a course is a glue. Boys could be so bad. Good good job also like Saturday on a bill down my very good for the for the size of the show. What it was was a dream. Come true for me on the things. Put Me Goodstein for me on created for the big stages in the future now. We know we know you're Tyson all your life and but what was like being in the cab discount different counter to because different different people are on our own Tyson and Zumra News. Well what was what was the billable this conversely we always have we always try not on we always. I wouldn't have no excuse income but this one obviously with the rematch. While them what what was upstairs with the fight was a lot more to it deal with a lot more a lot more to everyone. Uncomfortable I mean. There's a lot more stricter 'cause I said in the past we've known Togo sneak out any Erin don't stick. T- diet probably bought. Everything was by the book where we at sleep train when we needed to do what we're told to do on it. It showed on the night so in previous camps. So say you would be in a house in Las Vegas. You be sneaking in the nights. Yeah well you know barring. You've never heard of books for Wales Safai guidance which is to the National Sport Center. Wills it's right next to send us a windy squad training for Wales. You would lychee not the guys from the valleys to carry guys with calling for the Windows Club as long as we go back before five o'clock in the morning you could tell guys who've been out drinking conspiring on a Sunday and you would just be absolutely shattered but boxing. When I first started off I was referred about fifty six pro fight and our training with Jamie more. We've had as much by Steve would at the time they have long story short. I'm doing between but I'm losing no way. I'm saying like Jeremy why I'm not losing weight. I'm training item. Do Me Ruin to Juanita be doing. He said well. If your breakfast table You die is so. I said well breakfast. I two balls tools of cocoa POPs losing weight. So you solve Tyson as a as a chef. Is that you in main Tyson chef. George Locker very very very good guy does I. Don't conor McGregor is a lot of people in Hollywood around there. So in order stuff and the food what was it like? Tyson was leading six times a day. I was eating like five times the deal. I mean it was light five on this list because we got time. But we didn't do that but you'll see your training. That's how I made my comeback two thousand one. We've had a move. I remember him saying if if you're G