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Season Three Trailer

Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

02:40 min | 1 year ago

Season Three Trailer

"And we kissed and it was just like that was. And for the next nine months. We were having sex everywhere that summer was like we felt like we were high school. This season. I will be tracking a series of couples at different stages of development in their relationship and in their life from young and just forming two dissolving. Watching her fall in love with someone else was about the most painful thing that I've experienced and I don't wanna do that again. We will hear from couples as mature into stable long-term relationships who are struggling with the degradation of erotic life. If you compared three years before that it doesn't feel like the same couple sexually as in better. As in no way worse and. Couples that confront loss suicide is like earthquake the initial earthquake there's damage, but there's actually more destruction that comes in the aftershock. Divorce an endings that sometimes lead to completely new beginnings and with the same partners marriage was hard because it was a show. Yeah. It'll kit didn't wanna play. Yeah. This. I like. And we also meet other relationships that are part of the family system. Not just a couple, but Barron children tell you that I'm side. And then your go to his don't focus. I am an optimist. But the let me feel it. I have the hold all the sad feeling. Like, I'm the keeper keep revolt a pain in the geeky per while the sadness. This is where should we begin with stare Parral?

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Stephanie Barron  Controversial History

The Joys Of Binge Reading: The Best in Mystery, Romance and Historicals

51:38 min | 10 months ago

Stephanie Barron Controversial History

"Welcome to the joys of binge reading the show for anyone who ever got to the end of a great book and wanted to read the Nixon stolen we interview successful series authors and recommend the beast and mystery suspense historical and Romance Series. So you'll never be without a book you can't put them. You'll find this episode show notes a free e book and lots more information at the joys of binge reading Dot Com cope and now is Stephanie. Barron's popular Jane austen mysteries feature the famous novelist as a crime and East Asia. And there's some real life that Stephanie's sometimes he is Jane's Voice in her head as she writes. Hi I'm your host Ginny Land and today I Stephanie Talks About Channeling. Jane Austen World War Two espionage novels and that Church or woman for latest book about what's Winstons controversial American mother controversial and highly talented on my dad. But before we get to Stephanie just to remind back the shar nuts with a spend reading beside can be found on the website the joys of bench reading Dot Com. That's where you'll find links to stiffen these websites site and books twentieth things that we talked about here today as well as details about how to subscribe so you don't miss featuring besides but now now he is Stephanie. Heavy Stephanie and welcome to the Shar. It's great to have you with us. Oh It's my pleasure Jenny. Thanks for being interested in my work. I love your work but look tell me and I'm sure you read is tonight. was there what upon a time moment when you realize that you wanted to write fiction and if so what was the catalyst forage. Well I think like many writers I was born writing or at least I personally only believed that each of us has particular way of processing our experience. I can't draw a line. I mean I'm pathetic at anything mm-hmm visually artistic can't sing. I don't play an instrument but words have always been my superpower there my way of processing everything that happens to making a comprehensible. Hopefully gleaning something from it that I can pass onto others I firmly believe that we all you storytelling as a way to understand how to live And that's why I. A stories of every type are so critical for for children in for how we relate to one another and simply get through what can be very difficult at times just daily existence. I was always a writer. I think many any of us who right grow up kind of immersed in Kenan paper and I was no exception but in terms of practically deciding to sit down and write my first novel that took a leap of faith. I think it's because I I was raised in a family that valued education By went to university where literature and I mean literature was viewed as art And so I had a lot of inner inhibitions about testing my ability to write even though I was very facile writer from day one in a kind of took walking into a mystery bookstore when I was twenty nine and looking around at the walls also shows Florida's ceiling and thinking to myself. You know this is not simply art. This is not a god given talent that you either disaster do not this is also business and entertainment can be pursued perfected launched as a business writing can be entertainment and so that mean it comprehensible for me Johnny. It was something I could get my hands around them and not feel that I. It was risking art. That might forever be judged a failure so once I got writing down to the level of entertainment that I could apprentice and an perfect and sell. Suddenly I could write a book. It's fantastic sick. I don't know if you experience with similar to mind that also in those days most of the miserable in regards were men and there was a particular type of Mel writer who didn't really women very much and so there was quite a subtext. said it will more than a subject women were really truly creative. spurts the way that mean. We're yes I think. That's absolutely valid. And I I would note that my epiphany about mystery fiction coincided with Phenomenal success for certain shemale mystery authors. People like Sue Grafton and Syrup Risky Were simultaneous with Mike. My decision to attempt to write a mystery novel now granted. I didn't simply pursue that genre because up up those women but They certainly gave me an example of people who aren't afraid to attempt careers in writing and that was valuable to me. I pursuit mystery writing specifically because it was gonna I had grown up reading and loved and turn to for comfort as a reader. I and I felt that if I were going to make an effort to write you know beginning Middle and end a manuscript that it ought to be as a trial trial balloon in Asia that I actually loved to read. And that's advice. I always give to aspiring. Writers is to not ever right what you know. Because that's boring right to learn about but also start writing in Jacmel you love to read because you will have half consciously imbibed vibe and internalized a lot of the structural parameters that. You're on red that you can then access access as you attempt to write your own version of of a book so you started on you. Jane austen mystery series. You do right. gene-o historical article fiction as well and we'll get onto some of that very quickly. That was was the Jane austen series the first books that you actually published no now so I read under two names. I write as Francine Mathews and Stephanie Baron. And under both names. I've written twenty eight novels over the past twenty six years so my very first novel as Francine Mathews which is I should say my I name and my married name Stephanie. Baron is my middle and maiden name. Yeah so I published my first novel as Francine Mathews and then started in writing the Jane austen mysteries out two years later the first Jane austen. which is Jane and the unpleasantness? It scar grave manner. I wrote wrote a third novel however a different editor in publishing house bought. That then had published my francine mathews mysteries suit. And they refuse to cross publicized. So I was told I had to publish Jane. austen mystery as a different person thence Kim's Prancing Matthews which is why now two names ironically all my books are now under one house but at the time they were not. Yeah yeah and I so mentioned online that same. Jane AUSTEN S as identity was being rediscovered. That there was a certain aseren deputy she foyer was the late nineties and your Johnston series came out at the time that she was being discovered. But you didn't quite plan that. How did that what kind of that you know? I was pregnant when I wrote my first. Jane austen mystery. And I firmly believe the pregnancies a hallucinatory state and I Had Been Reading Jane Main As I do every every year usually in autumn here because there's something very tunnel I I find about her pros. It's laced often with regret the desire for second chances introspection and I find that well-suited suited to winter weather. So I found that as I often do when reading Jane that her voice in my head and I really wanted to be able to. Who use that voice which is so replete with multiple meetings? She operates particular dialogue on on multiple levels of once ons and we live in an era of soundbites which convey very little so. I thought well how if I could tap into the richness of that language but use it in a way that the reader enjoys rather than feeling is is somehow inaccessible which I do hear from people who are first reading Austin Wouldn't be wouldn't be a wonderful sort of merging of genres and so I sat down thought. Well I don't want to use her characters because I think like every Raider I'm very attached to my conception of Jane Austen's characters I mean I have an internal internal vision of WHO Lizzie Bennet is or Anna Elliott That I didn't want violated and I didn't WANNA violate for other people so I thought you know Jane austen herself self is far more pig. Benner characters People know less about her. I had happened to major in college and European history particularly the period that is the regency in England and Napoleonic krantz which was Johnson's period. So I thought wouldn't it be fun to use her language Hughes for letters use for life as the framework for series of mystery novels position. Different books in different places. She lived incorporate character. She knew in her life And the politics of the day so that was my conception. It happened that I was pregnant in nineteen ninety four with my first son. Who's now twenty five and It was the year that they were filming the Colin Firth and Jennifer early Pride and prejudice for the BBC and they were also filming kinds Amanda Roots Persuasion Not to mention in the Tomson Jason Simpson Sensibility. And they were all coming out at the same point And this was happening entirely announce to me because recollect this was pre social network digital era and kind of information about productions and pop culture was disseminated a lot. More slowly So they all kind of my book and those productions merged the same. Roughly Creator within the same eighteen months would say And that was quite nice for me. Unexpected fantastic yes. What sort of reaction did you get from? Johnston fans with a few who turned out. Okay Nice US and save. This isn't relet yes up. They tended to be people who had not read the book or British. I will say that. The people in Britain tend to disparage American meddling with their cows and Jane is very much a sacred cow in England But certainly in this country I was welcomed with open arms by most J. Nights. That's what we call and I'm sure you do too Fans of Jane Austen and and I am a member of the Jason Society of North America. And I have frequently spoken at their annual general meetings and I was actually tapped. APP does a traveling lecturer on Austin for the Jane Austen Society North America. And so it's been a lovely community that I think has embraced the Austin murder mysteries simply because I try very hard to be authentic to the language of austen's letters in particular which are in the first person of course in a much more intimate voice than her novels which were heavily edited an had that absolute hallmark of her era of the passive voice construction. And the. It's called a gosh forgetting the actual technical term but it's dialogue. That is related rather than actually I heard And so you know. It's been fun to mimic a lot of those techniques in Austin writing and try to reproduce an authentic way. I think you've done the most amazing amount of research into her latest journals. You can you can see it on the books. I'm do you feel you almost know her life closely than you do. You are certain things about her life I feel very intimately Grounded in yes but the tricky thing with Jane is that there are so many gaps us in the known record of her life which can be a double-edged sword. I have enjoyed exploiting gaps in in her correspondence for example which exist for for multiple reasons but the two most obvious are a her sister Cassandra to him? She most frequently wrote had a apparently destroyed parts of letters or entire letters In in the known record of Austen's life out of a sense of I guess kindness or excessive propriety desire to protect people that Jane might have spoken up in her letters from knowing what she thought of them. So she she you know kind of she actually cut with her embroidery scissors passages out of letters or she stored letters entirely so those are missing. But also because Cassandra was is the person to whom Jane wrote most often if they were together there were no letters so for periods. Sometimes of year there are no letters extant that describe Boston's life. And so those gaps are fun for me because I can fill them with fiction and postulate about what might have happened. I can create adventures for Jane that there's no record of however I have also written a number of books and I should say that I'm at work on the fourteenth of the Jane austen mysteries right now. I have written a number of books that dovetail absolutely with the letter she wrote from a specific perfect place and that I've incorporated into the novel social mentioned that there was moonlight one night. which meant they were able to go out out for example because most people only travelled on nights or had social engagements on nights when there was at least a half moon or a full moon? Hopefully that period period so that you could navigate dark routes in safety Or mention having attended a party and whom when she saw there with whom she played cards with whom she danced Show mention who was ill in the neighborhood that day. Or she'll mention what she wore or a scads of things that that Jane austen referenced in the way that we sort of in texting now are constantly relating relating to people what we're doing on a on a moment by moment basis. She was doing in her letters because people wrote so much more frequently and prolifically them. We do now so our wonderful trimmers for the period events today and what she was reading whether it's a newspaper or a novel which was wearing And so it all that richness of detail does creep into the books And in some instances I took one number letters from lyme regis for example where she later would set key passages persuasion and I was able to use every single person. Isn't she mentioned in the letter as a character in the novel one is the murderer. One is victim. You know so it's really been a a wonderful sort of found resource. Her her sweaters Again her characters in her novels for anyone wanting to create a an alternative world says wonderful. I mean I think it's boating. Twelve twelve club is Jane Twelve days of Christmas. which is yes? Dwight Topical Foot Right now for this time of year if people wanted a little touch of Jane Austen Austin Christmas. And that's it with the shoot family at the vine and I wondered as I was reading it with a that was actually based on a real Christmas that she hedge judge in in that place was set. Realisation that one Definitely I don't know that she ever would have spent Christmas with shoots but they were close family friends of the Austin family. They they had been very close neighbors. When I was growing up her brother James who was also clergyman Laker? Father took over her father's living in Stevenson Vinton Hampshire used to hunt with the master of the Vine Hunt and the vine was the home that belonged shoots. and Mr Trump was spe- master the vine hunt so you know they were very interconnected and I felt it was great family group and neighborhood in which to place the action of that right and you mentioned about an a guide for the North America Johnson. Descent main that you take is we still do take tours of entries to people to Jane austen sites. No it means that I am sent by the Austin Society to various chapters actors within the Jane Austen Society to speak to that yes on various topics usually of the chapters choosing. Listen get our lovely and the other question that I must ask. Is Lord Herald a real person or an invention Lord Harold Trowbridge Bridge who figures in a number of the novels in the series is not a real person. He is a fictional character But he's faced sort of as an album of on several leading politicians day Wig Politicians Titians wigs being the more upper class but progressive group of politicians nations in regency England who coalesced around the Prince of Wales later the region rather than The Tories who were marred Lord here in King George the third and the king monarchy executive power so anyway he figures as Progressive Liberal He's also the second son of a Duke. So he has inherent current social power. But he is naturally a conniving sort of person WHO has multiple agendas operating at one time? And he is also engaged in espionage and I created him because US I had been reading various volumes of letters written by whig politicians and Dan using those as a resource. I just thought that. So much of the intrigues of the day. Centering on the wars with Napoleon. But also also the United States were rich material in one of the person who could connect Jane to that world and although she had five brothers Washington six one was in care and disabled but she had five brothers who were in various aspects of of public life. In her era. She had two brothers who who were naval captains one. who was a banker? One Who was a landed gentry and the fifth was a clergyman. She had those male guides in a narrow that didn't afford women a lot of overpower into realms of regency society that might otherwise otherwise have been close to her but she didn't have one in the government and so I really felt that to place her squarely in the midst of the politics of the period period needed sidekick and that became herald a great. He's a great character. We we could talk about giant all day but I do you want to move on to talking about. You'll historical fiction as well and you'll racist book is that Churchill Woman in in that area and and it's fascinating book sainted around so Winston Churchill's mother Jennie Churchill. What made you decide to take on this huge wjr project about a fascinating woman Jennie Jerome? Churchill was an American woman Very privileged I daughter of the Titan of the Gilded Age in America Gilded Age being roughly post civil war America or the eighteen seventies up through world war one which would correspond the Oregon period in England It was a period. That saw unlicensed untrammelled capitalism in the United States growth of technologies in the two taken together meant fortunes were made lost on a very Titanic Scalp Jenny. Grew up the child of privilege here in the US a She was the product of New York. Wealth Her father was a Wall Street speculator and she grew up in Newport Rhode Island which is an the era area of New England that is known for its glorious homes that rival the the mansions of royalty and shelter in Paris right after the Prussian invasion of France in eighteen. Seventy one so. She had a really interesting story childhood but she she ended up going down in history for having given birth to Winston Churchill. I I just found it fascinating Researching Churchill for other books I've written which are World War espionage novels that he revered veered his mother and credited her with so much influence in his upbringing character and destiny and and yet most biographers of Churchill dismiss her in ways that are well the range from disparaging to truly contemptible. I think in the language they use to dismiss Jennie Jerome And that has at its. It's route several things. Namely a lot of Churchill's biographers are are both male and British and they really hate hate the fact that sort of the the cherished son of of British destiny Winston Churchill. The man who saved not only the England but arguably Europe from the Nazis was in fact only half British. It's really hard for them to accept that that Churchill's half American And being now they tended to dismiss Jenny because as an influence enter joke because she is some of that they regarded as frivolous as a selfish as bad mother as profligate financially And ultimately as sexually licentious. She was someone who lived very much by her own rules. Shoes married to a man who may have been homosexual and certainly I think had had syphilis and so her marriage was unhappy and she refused to stop living because of it so she's interesting complex and provocative figure that history has not necessarily agreed upon but I I found to be a fascinating subject for exploration in a novel. Yes you Susan to get the feeling. The book finishes more or less finishes is at the end of her marriage to Randolph. Churchill it does it does make reference to trump subsequent marriages but you get the feeling that Winston and was really the focus of her life and as well as in a way that he was an and her life would would you feel that was a faith into say absolutely Until the advent of Clementine in his life she was the only woman in his life as well you know arguably they were. She had Winston when she she was twenty and so having a young at heart approach to life. She never seemed to much older than he did once. He reached his his teens and twenties himself and so he used to refer to remorse companion. That sister might have been a as opposed to the Authority authority that a mother could have could have exerted a so. I think they were great companions in arms. She was ferociously engaged in politics. Politics loved campaigning. And she embarked on that. I had this wonderful moment where I was A. I did a variety of blog posts prior to book publication. I did I called one hundred days Jenny and you can find those blogs on my website but the post centered on stuff. That didn't make it in the book book and For one of them was writing about Winstons. I campaign for parliament which occurred heard around eighteen. Ninety nine he was about twenty four and I just happened to Google Churchill. Parliament on eighteen. Ninety nine and up comes the photograph in image of him standing in his characteristic way the only twenty four with his arms arms on his waist his hands on his waist rather and he's standing on the hustings the campaign platform and someone is helping woman up the stairs to join him on the platform Looked so clearly jenny but she's not listed in the picture caption Because she was just a woman right but she was the only woman in a sea of working class men because only men could vote in eighteen ninety nine in Manchester in a part of the town. That is clearly not genteel Of course campaigns were characterized by massive bovine through offering alcohol to the voters and so it would have been very rowdy crowd of working class men and she was beloved by that constituency is she because she had always campaigned for Winston's father Similarly often in the absence. Completely of Winston's father. She was his campaigner. So it's a it's a great sort of in the trenches image of the two of them that I really cherish didn't know to look for because it doesn't list took the photograph credit. You can say why a woman like that would the main of the time simply meaning patch just wouldn't know what to make career exactly. She was extremely articulate of Winston gets a lot of verbal ability from her. I would say there's some suggestion and she wrote her husband Randolph's speeches. He was known as a fiery orator as well to wrote her memoirs and and they're highly creative because she leads certain key events. embroiders others So you know when when you see Winston as writer which of course he was entire life. That's very much jenny. She was also a visual artist. She is it's known for the portrait she painted and she passed on her love of painting into And finally she was a concert level pianist who studied studied as a child with a disciple of Chopin's so she was a multi talented quite brilliant and complex complex person and people like that are formative on a with regard to everyone that encounter but certainly their children. And yet you've mentioned your crime mystery trilogy I think it's the name Chuck Nantucket Trilogy. Isn't it the second in World War One visit variety of books Jenny. There's six novels set on Nantucket island which are murderous. Yeah and I'm I'm actually the the sixth one is forthcoming. So there's no reason you'd have known about that it's out in May ending. You've come a J K one two zero zero a a series with one of which features. JFK Yes so I also I am a former intelligence analyst with the CIA. The I s the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States and I've always had an enduring interest in espionage fiction and so I have written actually six standalone novels that are spy novels. Espionage novels and three of those are set during World War Two so that is a period that I love almost as much as the regency I would say My father was was a world war two that and growing up in my family we carry the knowledge of the war and and actually a a sense of its immediate. See Way way beyond when most people would I think I think it's increasingly being viewed as ancient history because it's the last century now but It's very fresh in my sensibility. And it's a period of time that I loved to research so I've written three books in that period others are more contemporary Spy novels but those three are called the Alibi nightclub which is about the last three weeks before the Germans marched into Paris in June. Nineteen forty Jack Nineteen thirty nine which is very near and dear to my heart. It's about Jack Kennedy. When he was twenty one years old and was about to go into a senior year at Harvard? He took off six months the spring of his junior year and travelled alone from London to Moscow and everywhere in between researching his senior thesis for Harvard and that period of time is Kinda lost to history. Most people don't even know what he was doing when when he was a junior in college. Why should they but I sort of stumbled on the fact that he had done this and I thought? Wow Wow what a great template for a novel because we had no intelligence service in the United States in nineteen thirty nine and FDR Franklin Roosevelt. New War was coming. He was running for his third term of office which was highly unusual anyways the only US president that has served more than two terms and he kind of relied on people news six degrees of separation thing that he would employ friends ends on the ground. Different places to give him intelligence. He couldn't get through formal apparatus and he certainly knew Jack Kennedy. Jack's father was the US Basseterre to Great Britain at the time and he also knew most objects professors at Harvard. They were members of his kitchen cabinet. It was called informal advisers that Roosevelt relied on for Expertise when he lacked it in his formal government so anyway I connect a young guy who will eventually be a Democratic president of the United States with a mentor who is during World War Two do a president of the United States And I linked them deliberately Bhai Disability so Roosevelt was a president who served in a wheelchair chair. He was paralyzed from the waist down But he was possibly the most formidable force in the executive office us in the United States in the last hundred fifty years and Jack was ill his whole life which is something. Most people didn't really understand when he was running for office later or when he was young but he would tell everyone he met. I'm going to die before I'm thirty. And as a result he had a very vivid compulsion to live every day. It made him a risk taker. It made his regrets few An pushed him to to the edge of every experience which makes for great character thousand wonderful at the guy that I read this. I love it when I recommend a lot. A lot of readers. Particularly male raiders. Because the Austin books tend to draw mostly women yeah readers And so when I do have people who read both both my matthews books in my Barron books but I should say Jack. Nineteen thirty nine is a Francine Mathews book But it is is when I can recommend universally which is nice slightly confusingly J. Churchill. Doug seems to have come out and Stephanie Barron. When you topic speech it will be a Francine Mathews because of the historical I put it out his barren because it's not an espionage novel and it's Yes it's one I thought would appeal more to women? I think you're probably right there. Yeah look look it's fascinating talking about books but let's move on and just talk a little bit about Your Wider Korea. Same One some. You've John Pass more than any Abba that she created to you'll sissies as novelist You know When I was younger I worked in in college and then afterwards professionally as a news reporter? This was between the time that I joined the CIA. where I spent four years and later began writing fiction So I credit journalism with a a lot of my success as a writer simply because it taught me to things how to write under deadline pressure which is really important. And and secondly how to write in the Midst of distraction. I have been writing my whole life while raising children while you know aw being engaged with the broader world and when people run into a professional writer they often said. How do you actually get anything done you know how do you how how do you? How do you force yourself to sit down and write and the training? I had as a journalist kind of answers. That question for me it. It's it accustoms you you to sitting down in a crowded newsroom surrounded by other people who are on the phone or clicking away their own stories. We're talking Or arguing and and you acquire the habit of simply focusing on your own bit a pros despite the world in chaos around did you and I think that that training is valuable it. Also thirdly I should add a condition may be edited and I rely heavily heavily on the dialogue that I have with an editor I trust about the shape of the story. How it can be improved hoped where it goes wrong and have asked Polish it? they're very few people. I trust with that power. You're over my work but I find it valuable out without it. I would probably be less confident in the ultimate product. I'm offering to the world and I do counter writers who resent editing and I think that that's so short sighted to me it's Service to a better product when you engage with an editor. Who's WHO's qualified to comment on the work? So do you do. Do you still use developmental leader to even after these folks no not at all. I never have jeff now. I I had one Editor in particular for twenty one of my novels and valued her enormously. She edited the judge. Churchill book she edited many of the Jane Austen novels And when I say someone you trust trust it's because you have spent years back and forth with them in a in a mental dialogue. That is very hard to find it just anywhere I I think that true editors are inasmuch in love with you with the pros in the storytelling as you are as a writer and for them. The book is a living thing that you are sort of raising between you hits your mutual child and those people are worth gold. It's wonderful tuning to Stephanie. Is Rita because this is the joys of binge rated way stacked to come to the end of that time time together you obviously a huge amount of reading for your research what you read. We are on pleasure. I do read murder mysteries. I have to say They tend to be oddly. Enough Golden Age mysteries. I cut my teeth growing up on Dorothy. Researchers margery Allingham Anaya Marsh as well as Agatha Christie. Of course I do love those women in their writing I also loved for years. The Nelson's navy based novels Patrick O'Brien the Aubrey Matra novels. As they're called which recreate for me the life that Jane Austen's sea captains must've known. I obviously read Austin in excess. I also love her her. What would I call it great great granddaughter Georgia Hair? Who wrote wrote Wonderful Twentieth Century Novels that could be Austin esque in set in the regency as far as contemporary writers. Go I love them. Deborah Crombie who is a mystery author with a series set in England I Love Jane Harper. Who writes about Australia in the IT? Crime Novel Sean And I love couple of spy novelists since we were talking about spying fiction Menem Joe Cannon who's written extensively in the World War Two period and post World Award to Robert Harris who ranges all over the map in terms of his periods of history. That he loves but always manages inches to produce a suspenseful novel. Yeah but that's great at this stage in your career. If you would do an ivory again is through anything. You Change. wjr The advent of Amazon Jay. No that's helpful. I suppose in the twenty six years. There's I've been writing Jenny What I've observed most forcibly is less about my own writing or progression than it has been about the changes in the publishing industry? which is what I was really touching on I came out in a period when books books and People read and and the read newspapers and magazines as well and all of them were vehicles for spreading information and increasingly. That's not the case so I feel like someone who was an opera composer the period when the Beatles were starting. I mean there's just sort of a a sense of being less and less relevant to mainstream culture and I say that even though my son the twenty five year old one in this case has said it to me. Mom will always need content providers and you're a content provider. I had never aspired to be a content provider. Appears to be what I am now. So you know you you kind of have to come to terms with the changing value placed on your contribution to live And there's nothing I can do to change that so that's not really a helpful answer to your question. I suppose that's just progress is on show that he's right in that sense of your content provider but it's finding the way to get into the right channels. Isn't it these days yes it is and you know I am not someone someone who disparages different formats. I personally read digitally all time on my IPAD. I Love the love audiobooks and I listened to them while I'm I. I happen to be an avid needlepoint. And so I listened to audio wall needlepointing because then I feel guilty about doing either multi testing and so you know I love formats that vary and I think reaching people. Visually is hugely important. -portant I've always been an advocate for great visual entertainment whether it's streaming television or phenomenal movies so I don't really have any argument with that. It's more the diminishing number of outlets through which people access information is sometimes disturbing. Danny the loss the bookstores being a major ones and newspapers i. I'm more in the death of newspapers. Perhaps because I was a journalist so I I fully understand where you're coming from the but what is next for Stephen the writer. What are you working on over the next twelve months for example over over the next twelve months? That's a taller order at the moment. I am writing the fourteenth Janus to mystery which is called Jane and the year without a summer. It's it's set in eighteen sixteen which is only a year before Jane austen's death so I'm running out of Jane. I am also writing the seventh meredith. nantucket mystery which We didn't really touch on. But that's that's one of my mystery series that I keep going back to and and finally I'm researching in preparing to work on A standalone novel. And I'm not sure whether it's a math user baron novel and It's probably a World War espionage book and I won't say any more about that right now of the tackle mysteries they contain pray. Contemporary they feature a female police detective. Who is name Mary Folder? She is a third generation cop on Nantucket untuckit island and for some of your listeners. Who are less familiar with the United States? I would simply say that Nantucket is a very wealthy enclave off the coast of New England. That is a charming small village in its own right could be. It could be Miss Marples village of Saint Mary Mead It's thirty miles out at sea. It's the historical home of the American are can wailing industry and from from the federal and colonial period of the United States and as such. It's it's it's an historical gem in our country but it's also a venue for enormous wealth and celebrity and so so there's a conflict between the people make the island run. The teachers firemen the police women and those who fly in periodically article with entire staffs to one of their six homes and enjoy the beauty of the place in a sort of more parasitic way. And I think that that at clash of cultures always makes for conflict and then you know conflict is where we get the potential for crime. So it's been a fun place to set a mystery mystery series Candidates some of the the Kennedys summer nearby on Cape Cod. And Marcus. And Martha's Vineyard and yes you are correct. Some of the Kennedy descendants Have found a way to nantucket but in the main they're pretty fixed on Smith's CAPE COD in town called Hyannis Port Iraq. Yes okay enough so just moving into this new digital age. Do you like to interact enjoy with your readers online and if so wake may find you. 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Chapter 4: Keeping Hope Alive

88 Days: The Jayme Closs Story

26:53 min | 1 year ago

Chapter 4: Keeping Hope Alive

"<music> we believe jamie was in the home at the time of the homicides and we believe she's still endanger a brutal murder in the middle of the night in a thirteen thirteen year old girl missing the case of jamie cloud captures the nation's attention sense of urgency is growing by the minute here in barron county ony wisconsin a community on edge who who did this who would do something like this a family desperate to find her. My life was ripped apart and shattered entered into pieces. A mystery in a small town been doing this for twenty years and i just don't know what happened in this case but hope never lost. Thank god god after those days we at least got answers. I'm louvre goose. This is eighty eight days. The jamie kloss story chapter four keeping hope alive. Thanks for joining us new developments tonight. Involving the close family and jamie's disappearance man has been charged for breaking into the families wisconsin home over the weekend. Sometimes there's a development in a story so bizarre that you wouldn't believe it unless you you see it with your own eyes. They reduce here with a look at what happened. Chilly rainy the barron county sheriff says this man is not a suspect in jamie's disappearance or the murder of her parents. It's but the details concerning this breaker very disturbing nonetheless and for me it takes reading the charging documents kyle janke anise to believe it's possible. Someone one did what he admits to doing. According to the criminal complaint investigators were monitoring motion activated cameras pointed at the class home early saturday and they witnessed thirty two a year old kyle jenky anise enter the class home chinky. N._s. is a thirty four year old man who works with jim and denise class at the turkey store and baron the court papers say that one night a few weeks after jamie disappears jenky anna's leaves work rides his bicycle to a laundromat then walks to the class home he notices says a patio doors unlocked. He enters in fines. Jamie's bedroom chinky anna's then steals jamie's underwear to tank tops apps and address. A motion activated camera outside. The house alerts the wisconsin d._c._i. That someone's there deputies and agents pull in at two twenty any six a._m. In the order janke anna's out of the house when we hear about this at carolina news. We wonder if this is the person who took jamie who else would return to the crime scene in snoop through her stuff chinky anna's tells investigators he took the clothing because he doesn't think anyone would miss it and he's curious about what size jamie is in. This isn't the first time he's done something like this three months earlier. A woman walked into her trailer l. home to find zinke n._s. Wearing women's lingerie in address belonging to her sixteen year old daughter but were surprised when investigators almost immediately say they truly believe believe jenky anna's had nothing to do with the killing of jim and denise class or the disappearance of jamie a judge later finds janki is incompetent pretend to stand trial on these burglaries because of mental illness. The court commits him to a state hospital in order to be medicated against his will and just weeks exp before the release of this podcast janke anna's takes a plea bargain to a less serious misdemeanor theft charge and he's put on probation false leads like this one one hundred investigators and the victims families as the holidays approach. I tonight as families prepare for thanksgiving. It will be difficult holiday for wisconsin family with empty seats at the dinner table tonight. We're hearing from jamie. Clauses extended family ahead of the first holiday since jamie disappeared and her parents were killed. Danny expe- walk spoke to the family about keeping hope alive for jamie through the holidays. Danny sits down with denis's brother steve nyberg in sisters susie allard jennifer smith. Jennifer is the aunt who gave the plea. You heard last episode suzy. Was there with her. Holding jamie's dog danny sits down with the siblings at jennifer's dining room table at her home and and baron suzanne jennifer wear black hoodies with a green ribbon and lettering that says bring jamie home in with being thanksgiving. I guess does that bring up. Some you know really tough emotions just with being the holiday and everything like that the holidays will aren't there they are they're going to be hard. It's thanksgiving. It's hard and you feel like you can't be thankful for anything but we d- we are. I thankful that we have the support we have behind us that we have our family by us through that support or hoping we can bring jamie home and let denise and jim rest in peace. I mean do this. We need to do this for german denise to yeah not so much the holidays vase i mean it's before the holidays that's when that's when we denise got on the phone with everybody i mean they of the holidays. That's one thing but mike today and yesterday was tough. Discount the fact that we didn't get a fifteen phone calls getting dinner scheduled and making sure that everybody knew what they were bringing bringing her flat black friday shopping or she would go early and get things that we weren't get right away because she would go right away yeah yeah she would have three or four copies of the ten or newspapers for so. Everybody can look at him so yeah. It's it's usually live dead. After we ate on thanksgiving any of the cooking she always brought her big bucks. Cookies from the barren bakery with three different kinds the inspiration for every holiday. Every birthday party new from friends is they just. They can't think of anybody. That would want to hurt them. <hes> is can you think of any any reason at all or anybody. I can't think of anybody. I went over and over my head because they had no enemies that i know of on that. We know if we could. I mean i mean for one. We were told the sheriff's department and second being camera. We'd put it right out there just because it would be fully exposed and and i really at this point being over thirty days and wouldn't care who's feelings hurt me. I want to get to the answer so yeah. There's there's nothing to know. They were good. They were good to everybody they were giving and they just carry cut life to themselves besides with family so i just that's why none of this makes sense just doesn't want to like denise. Jim worked in this special. Uh-huh denise interviewed. Everybody involved her. You'd probably get sick of hearing same thing again and again just about her kindness. I mean kind of person you know. Does that to someone like that. That's that's the crazy part so and that's where we're like. You said lost awesome limbo. It hasn't been frustrating. You know not because it's anyone's fault with the investigation has been frustrating. Just not knowing what frustrating aw make sure you go through our minds day shows us frustrating. I mean who wants to do that day in day out eddie and as frustrating but you have to translate that aside hoping it's for the good finding jamie hoping there's something out there hoping they're working on something. That's how i feel each day each day. I wake up with a new refreshed hope today. It's going to be the day today's my husband's birthday the only. I wish we had for today only president. He wanted to bring jamie home. Do you have any gut feeling about what may have happened or or do you really really just not no change from day to day different stuff you're here and that's why sometimes you just can't go on social media because you you hear all this rumors and stuff and why people have to make them up. I don't know because it it's hurting because then it's not true you know and then you think about it and then the jennifer is holding jamie's dog molly whom everyone i met that day jennifer spoke at the press conference. You can hear molly at times in this interview interview. Molly was in the class home when jimmy's were killed. Jennifer has been taking care of her ever since taking care of jamie's dog. Tell way back. When i first got her she was pretty scared and wanting to hide all the time she's opened up a lot and we got her groomed and just doing better like she sleeps with jamie slut turning her little kennel over there. The family tells us the main reason they wanted to do. This interview is to keep jamie's face on the news so people don't forget about the story so people don't stop searching. I'm afraid of i'm afraid it's going to lose its importance level all the news media society and then you know and if it hasn't she hasn't been found yet then you know we're just hanging on a thread a prayer and much to go by so pretend you're going for ron and then all of a sudden and you can see clear stay right in front of you and you this of sun hit something so hard and you just stand there and you didn't see it coming but but there's a glass wall that this right in front of you just stand still on you know you don't know what to do about sums up perfect homes a little bit like a big shock. I just yeah it's like a big nightmare that you don't doesn't end family that this kind of thing don't happen it. Just don't you just something we watch on tv and feel bad inside for the other family and <hes> just this doesn't happen in a small area like this and it just doesn't happen to our family but it did but it seems to me. You still have hope that jamie is alive. Most definitely take us. Yes it's gotta be. I mean i think when somebody is gone. You feel that loss and jamie i don't. I think any of us feel like that at all so i can still feel. She's gonna come home. My heart tells me that won't give that up. Thank you so so much for for talking to us. We really appreciate it danny. We just listened to the interview you did with denisa siblings siblings. That was the night before thanksgiving. That's just heartbreaking. Yes and they were really feeling the loss because here we are in holiday and they're they're remembering what denise he's used to bring for dinner and they're remembering the phone calls. She used to make the day before thanksgiving and <hes> the reality really starting to set in of what has happened in the loss that has happened so tell us more about what you saw in felt as you sat there at the dining room table well i remember walking in and <hes> being a little bit nervous because <hes> it it was the first time i had really sat down with any family members in remember walking in and they couldn't have been nicer to us and they really were gracious. They welcomed us into their home mm-hmm and told us that they needed the media attention they really really needed <hes> more attention on it and they were hoping that our our story and then by way of that it <hes> to national n._b._c. being able to use it on the today show over thanksgiving <hes> that they thought that could really help some new leads and just remember walking in and <hes> they had a potty coffee going and they welcomed us in like we were family and it was really <hes> it was really touching but you could really you could really feel the loss and the emptiness of that house and desperation that they were feeling what was their demeanor like and what did you see on their faces. As he sat there they were quiet. They were very gracious but they were very quiet. Still grasping is being kind of the magnitude of going through thanksgiving without denise and without jim without jamie and <hes> and they were just clinging to that hope that they were going to be able to find jamie and and they hadn't they hadn't wavered on that but you could see it in there is that they were you know starting to really feel desperate so you've covered this case extensively at this point probably more stories than any other reporter kevin had done at this point how did meeting these family members face to face like this. Change your impressions or the way you covered the story moving it forward. I think it made the story much more real. I think you had a hypothetical understanding in your head. When you're listening to the police talk about the case or you're at a press conference but then you're actually sitting in that family room and then the impact of it really starts to hit you in the just the the heinous actions that were taken against their family. It really starts to hit you that this. This is not just a story. This is not just something that that you see on t._v. This is something that real people are living and breathing every minute of the day and i think moving forward i i really think that i i tried to cover the story with as much care as possible and just thinking about okay. The family is watching the family is is you know is going to be paying attention because they need these stories out there and what can we do to make sure that they're at ease and that were helping as opposed to since ational ising or just putting something out there that is going to harm them. Then sheriff chris fitzgerald for the first time since the day jamie disappeared gives us a one on one interview. We wanted to learn more about the investigation instigation through his eyes away from that press conference setting with all the other cameras sheriff chris fitzgerald has been the face of this investigation and he tells us it has certainly really taken a toll on him on his investigators on the community but he says the jamie cost case remains a top priority. You know they're feeling a lot of hope and a and that's what's driving the law enforcement <hes> a response to this. <hes> fitzgerald tells us hope is fueling his investigators not just hope from jimmy's family but from the rest of the community like was shown during the ground search you know we go up and down on a roll of course we get a good tip and it turns out to be not the tip we need <hes> and then that roller the cost but the the community hope and support and things like that day that search that put so much hope in the hearts of our law enforcement officers <hes> it was you know sad ad and at that sometimes just unruly unbelievable feeling at the same time we're sad to the thirteen year or girl is missing but at the same time it was just just a heartwarming feeling that i just can't describe except there was just heartwarming but with the twenty four seven command center now closed in most of the out of town and help gone wearing the investigators and the investigators in this case. I've been working really long hours and you mentioned that they've been away from their families. What's been the impact on on when you guys yeah well. It's it's it's taken its toll <hes> you know <hes> me personally and my family and but they again this community stands behind our officers and their families and that's been a blessing in itself <hes> because we've been away from our families. We've been out of touch with anything else. Besides is this case and you know. I have two kids of my own and a family and i just can't imagine you know a a child missing and that's what's driving. The people in this building behind signed me <hes> is that feeling of it you know there's lots of kids in our community and we don't want that so we want that to that hope to continue and we will bring n._j._i._t. Home you closer to any suspects or any motive <hes> no. It's still there's still some mystery to this case. We're still working those leads as they come in <hes> if there was you know the availability of some suspect out there are different vehicle we wanted we would definitely put out to the media and the general public and still no credible sightings jamie no credible all sightings once in a while we get a sighting jamie but at this time there's no credible sightings and in terms of you know you've answered this question a lot over the last couple of weeks but in terms of you know people have asked us or any ongoing danger to the public here any closer to an answer on whether or not you know you really believe that this suspect could be local wars. It's still in the air yeah. I wish i wish i could solve that. I wish i could give the community that answer. That's the answer. I struggle with every night. Is i go to sleep is the figure out exactly if this was random or not and and and that's the answer we look for every day <hes> beyond bringing jamie home. I just want to reassure people that we left. No stone unturned. You know it's kind of a cliche but it's truly these people have worked night and day and and double check things in triple. Check things too because there is a tip out there and we don't want to miss it and and we don't believe we've missed it and we continue to review things and look at new things. The sheriff says this twenty four seven command center could be back up and running here in barron county instantly if he needs it to be. He says it'll take one phone call to make that happen if the right tip comes in and they feel they need around the clock investigation back in the works again here in barron county. I'm danny speak caroline news. As the season changes again snow dust the ground in december as christmas approaches. We traveled to barron for a tree lighting ceremony. The barron wisconsin community is keeping hope alive for thirteen year old. Jamie kloss who has now been missing for almost two months are can erdal was in barron during a special tree lighting tonight executives at the geno turkey store were jim and denise kloss worked came up with the idea for a christmas tree lighting ceremony across from riverview middle school. They call it. The tree of hope and the ceremony begins with superintendent tremblay continuing continuing her role as an unofficial community spokesperson. When jenny o turkey store and hormel foods approached our district to partner in this community event. We were so moved moved. It's been a challenging time for us. All in our staff and our students have been rockstars so in this idea of the tree was presented to us. We couldn't have thought of a better way eight to share hopes and aspirations for jamie safe return so thank you for the idea of this and for helping create tonight evening. Jim indonesia's family walks to the front and jim's brother my class who couldn't be there that day. We interviewed his siblings addresses. The crowd <hes> thank you <hes> first of all thanks to the sunni all family family for this. It's overwhelming <hes> thank you to the barren community law enforcement excellent. It's sorry try sportsman overwhelming our families like swiss want jamie and we pray everyday who distort per safe return and uh we can't can't they the community and <hes> and thank you. Thank you so much for everything. Thanks thank you then with the flip of a switch. The tree is lit. Jamie's classmates light and released chinese lanterns then on a projector screen a message from chris cruzi. Hey guys chris cousy here. Who last night learned. He's made it to the finals on the voice. Be at the event tonight for jamie. <hes> i just want to encourage everybody to keep hope alive and stay positive and you know bringing the community together as an awesome thing and it's just encouraging courage to see everybody pulled together like this one week later baron gears up for the voice season finale or the season finale of the voice starts in just a few minutes people so so excited to tune in as they see chris cruzi compete in here in his hometown of barron wisconsin that celebration has been going on all day. The city has declared this chris cruise. Who's each day and people all over town are honoring chris is for our grade school held a special assembly this morning with kids wearing paper beards and flannel shirts as they sang a song on for chris does four people often. He just has to sing. Something really really good. He's in the end for me. It's going good for him. He's he's been giving back to this this community over and over and over again and if you spend one minute was him ten seconds you will love him. I just really wanna see him do well. He deserves it. He's just hard-working working. Nice guy and of course people here have been sharing all season long. They can't wait to see how this wraps up. The voice airs tonight season finale starting at seven o'clock doc right here on seven cruzi comes just short of winning it all finishing in second place still making barron proud that the community i grew up in like came together and spread the word across the state and then across the country and i have nothing to complain about this has been an incredible experience and <hes> something i remember for the rest of my life. It's now been fifty nine days. Since jimmy disappeared in everyone in baron is emphasizing the word hope even if there are private doubts within the community. They're doing everything they can to put out. This public belief that jamie is still alive and they hope she'll come home soon. This saturday will mark two months since jamie disappeared and her parents were killed in the close family. They'll be gathering catherine here around the tree with members of the community just afternoon not to release lanterns but to release balloons green and blue balloons with messages of hope for for her safe return embarrassed eleven news two days after the tree of hope ceremony. Jamie's family returns to that spot for a balloon release three so one jamie's grandpa's here robert nyberg dennis's father a game. I always is called me grappa red because they used to have hair used to he used to have red hair just like his daughter denise robert and jamie have a special bond and and love going out for breakfast together. I miss our time together. A breakfast with me and i miss serve breakfast. It's a little harder everyday. They need your back. He makes a heartbreaking plea on camera asking jamie to run away or call him for help. We've ever got your runaway again or just call. He'll come and get you. Christmas and new year's come and go without any news except for false leads circulating online thirteen-year-old. Jamie class has now been missing from barron wisconsin for eleven weeks but there are still a huge national interest in her case particularly on social media tonight carolina's danny spe- walk verifying new claims about her whereabouts over the weekend tonight. We wanted to bunk something. That's been widely shared on social media this weekend. After receiving a tip from a care eleven follower on facebook we looked into a photo that was posted in multiple private at facebook herbs and on a true crime youtube page. The photo appears to show a teenage boy and girl in a loving embrace lying on a bed. We usually don't report on stuff off like this because it might encourage other people to start false rumors to get this same attention but we decide it's worth checking into this one and frankly weeks have gone by now since we've mentioned jamie on the news and this is a way to get her name back in the spotlight social media users are claiming that this picture shows jamie kloss with an unidentified man but the barron county sheriff told me this photo does not appear credible at this time and jamie's aunt told me without a doubt in her mind that this is absolutely not jamie in the photo it is unclear who i spread the photo or where it came from but this case continues to be scrutinized by hundreds if not thousands of people online every day by my count there are fourteen eighteen facebook groups devoted to jamie class with more than thirty five thousand total followers among the family members have told us before that the false social media rumors about their family family and jamie kennedy hurtful to them but they try to tune it out and they do want the public to continue to send legitimate tips to law enforcement sunday night. Family members were in ladysmith wisconsin aunts and for a tree of hope lighting where they pleaded with the public to not forget about jamie. The only thing that we can do is keep her face out there and to keep to keep everybody. It just comes home because we don't know what else to do. The barron county sheriff's department still has not identified any suspects in jamie's disappearance or or in the death of her parents so there continues to be a lot of speculation on social media about this case we can verify though through the sheriff nj family that this latest post based on social media does not appear to be jamie. The sheriff says his department is looked into dozens of potential sightings in recent weeks but all were unfounded bacteria and with that jamie's name does not appear again in a care eleven newscast until january seventh twenty nineteen with an announcement that the following week sheriff fitzgerald will hold a press conference to update everyone on the case on the three-month anniversary of jamie's disappearance but then on january tenth after eighty eight days. He's county number one. I i have <hes> a young lady at my health right now native gainey claw. I've i have stood before you have said we would work tirelessly to bring. Jamie costs home next time on eighty eight days. Thank you for joining us. We have incredible breaking news tonight. After months of waiting in agony a heartbroken family desperate for answers holding their breath. What was your reaction. When you heard the news i i doubt on the bench. I shock doc. They can finally exhale knocked on the door and said you need to let me union. Call nine one one because i believe i have changed. The world finds out what happened to jamie me this eight days. The jamie class story a care eleven original podcast in association with volt studios checkout eighty eight days podcast dot com for more information on the jamie clause case a._d._a. Hey days is written and produced by me. Lou reduce in l._a. Coder original music is by dave mailing emily havi in original artwork by david malman even special thanks to care levin management and staff for their contributions the people of barron wisconsin and the close family.

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Chapter 2: Searching

88 Days: The Jayme Closs Story

43:27 min | 1 year ago

Chapter 2: Searching

"Yeah we believe jamie was in the home at the time of the homicides and we believe she's still endanger a brutal murder in the middle of the night in a thirteen thirteen year old girl missing the case of jamie cloud captures the nation's attention sense of urgency is growing by the minute here in barron county johny wisconsin a community on edge all scared who who did this who would do something like this a family desperate to find her. My life was ripped apart and shattered hundred into pieces. A mystery in a small town been doing this for twenty years and i just don't know what happened in this case but hope never lost. Thank god after those days we at least got answers. I'm lou reduce this eight days. Jamie class story chapter two to searching good morning. I'm chris fitzgerald barron county sheriff sheriff. Chris fitzgerald holds to press conferences on october sixteenth with jamie now missing more than twenty four hours. He walks out of the barron county justice center at eleven a._m. And four p._m. To a podium filled with microphones there are news crews here now from oliver over minnesota and wisconsin plus the national news. Jamie has been described to those nor as a sweet and shy thirteen year old enjoys dancing and sports. She's she's been missing for. A day and a half in our community is concerned for her safety in f._b._i. Agent in a d c._i._a. Agent stand behind him. The wisconsin is the state investigative unit when when there's a homicide in a small county like barron the often send agents there to either help her sometimes take over the investigation the f._b._i. Has sent agents from what they call. The child abduction rapid deployment team the f._b._i. Can offer expert advice to share a fitzgerald on what information to release a not to release and they can help build a profile of what kind of person might have committed this crime by the end of the day they will have received more than two hundred tips the amber alert website when it was shared received thirty thousand simultaneous hits regardless of what's going on behind the scenes sheriff fitzgerald remains the face of the investigation in this morning he signals something that he would repeat many times times throughout the weeks to come often summit into community will acknowledge we'll have knowledge of crime and may not realize it individuals who commit acts of violence may display changes in their behavior in individuals around that person may observe those changes they will recognize the changes and may even question the people about it. They may not realize those changes are the person's involvement in a crime. This is a plea to the locals anyone listening around the region to call in a tip. If someone they know is acting eighteen differently such things missing work missing schedule appointments for family and commitments and they may suddenly leave town individual may change as their appearance or change something to prevent their identification at this time we will be able to take a few questions when reporters start asking questions you get a sense that either fitzgerald is being in very tight lipped or maybe authorities really don't have all that much information one call why it was unusual. What about it was unusual that nine one one call the the nine one one call was given on that night from the residents on a cell phone <hes> but no contact was made with somebody that was on the other line and that's what's unusual both that nine one one call. There was no one communicating with our district the word help. Did you hear that dispatcher here that <hes>. I don't know that if i don't know if the word help was said i can't comment on that. I don't know if that was said but there was some carter disturbance going on and that's why law enforcement was sent to the house and tell us why you don't oh thank this is a case of a girl who just ran away that would be part of the investigation that are tips are following up on <hes> and i'm <music>. I'm telling you jamie's missing and endangered and that's from alita. Have you ever seen anything like this. No i haven't seen anything like this and rule western wisconsin. We just don't see this. Thankfully share information that you are aware of of about the crime scene that you cannot share with us and can you tell us why you're not sharing information because we don't want to. We're wanna bring jamie home. That's the main point. I will will not interrupt this investigation for anybody to have any information. That's not necessary except for the essential people behind me and their staff. That's why won't give on any information information if we think it's key to the case where we need the public's help we will disseminate that information <hes> but until then <hes> our number one goal this spring jamie home and and no amount of information will be given out unless we feel it's appropriate help already a lot of people online are speculating whether jamie herself had something thing to do with the plot pulling theories out of left field even though there's no evidence pointing in that direction and the people who know jamie tell us they don't think it's possible the sheriff hasn't hasn't definitively ruled out any scenario and has reporters continue the barrage of questions. They ask about a lead. That's circulating around the country. It's actually the only only lead that's been made public so far. The weird thing is it didn't come from sheriff fitzgerald. It comes from the miami florida police department. They tweeted did that. Jamie may have been seen in the city of miami the afternoon after the crime inside a black ford explorer with wisconsin plates but think about it for a second it takes twenty six hours to drive to miami from baron in this alleged sighting happens just seventeen hours after the nine one one call jamie's house so the numbers don't add up in fitzgerald says the tip is not credible. I can not stress that enough. We are asking the media the people on facebook for if it does not come from this podium it is not a credible tip ever alerts usually for classifying. I i'm not classifying it as anything except if she's missing and endangered shall be honest. You know where i'm struggling with this because i don't have some of those answers that i want to give you. I wanna give the family sheriff when mussa last time jamie was seen someone had contact with her <hes>. What can you tell us about that. <hes> we're closing that timeline. That's part of our investigation is the timeline of this case and we continue to follow by the timeline but sunday afternoon. There was a family gathering that she attended a family gathering. That's the first bit of new information we get that retraces the steps of the close family on the day leading up to the crime. Uh we find the facebook account belonging to denise kloss. It's still there online frozen in time and we can see some photographs. Posts and comments posted hosted sunday from a birthday party for jamie's cousins. We learned jamie and denise were there but we don't know whether jim was at the afternoon. Press conference sheriff fitzgerald has has to poster size photographs of jamie one on each side of the podium enjoining him as diane trembling the baron area school superintendent who tells us more about the missing gene eighth grader. Jaime is a sweet quiet girl who is a loyal friend and loves to dance. She's a runner on our cross country team and a wonderful addition to our baron area school district family. A teacher just recently shared this with me about jamie. Jamie rotan one of her her assignments in response to the question. What would you do if you were given a million dollars. She said feed the hungry and give the rest of the poor. Then then with the press conference over reporters notice a woman standing behind them at the back of the crowd visibly shaken reporters start asking her questions as the cameras rush show over. She says this has been very difficult. No one knows it at the time but that's jennifer smith denise classes sister. Jamie's godmother and closest aunt jennifer used to run a daycare and watched over jamie while her parents worked from the time. Jamie was a baby through age eleven even though they don't don't know her relationship yet reporters can tell she's related to the family in some way they ask about jamie the sweetest little girl she wanted her to seoul. This entertained replace another day man. What's your name. Jennifer's husband tells reporters. This isn't the time or replace and he puts his arm around her and leads her away. Jennifer sounds very broken here on day two but we would later learn. She never gives up hope. As the days start to pass signs begin to pop up around baron starting with city hall. It says simply bring jamie home as life continues to go on in the small town. Much of the community is trying to figure out what they can do to help. Everybody's talking about it. These are a lot of small communities all clustered around each other at a local deli nearby cameron where the class family goes to church the owners plan to start selling wristbands to raise money for funeral costs. She tells us she's affected by the news. People are scared. They're confused. They don't know how or why this happened to this family. Why why it's happening in our area. You know people are worried about their children and worried about our neighbors. Everybody just wants to find jamie and bring her back to her family. Everybody's trying to do something we all want to help. We all can't physically be out looking for her. They don't always need us out physically looking forward to it. That was the way that we can step up and help as a community and and what we can to help. We hope jamie comes back home safely to her family and you know it's it's. It's sad that in this this area things like this can happen to us as we talk with more people in the area. We start to learn more about jim denise class. They both worked at the geno turkey's. He's store for twenty seven years. That's a turkey processing plant in by far the largest employer in barren. This gave police a lot of people to check into anyone at jennie o. Whoever had a disagreement with jim or denise from that a lot of rumors began to swirl about what may have led to the crime but we learned learned. The company is cooperating with police. Kendra doll is live tonight. In barren and cat houses investigation evolved the couple of work for twenty seven years at the geno turkey store in town which released a statement today saying quote we are mourning this loss and are still processing this terrible tragedy. We are also hopeful for the safe return of their daughter. Jamie ed are keeping her and the close family in our thoughts despite rumors centering on the turkey plant when we talk with people who actually knew jim denise class they make it clear to us. They don't don't believe someone would have a major problem with them. Indefinitely not a big enough problem that they'd want to kill the couple. Just just the waiting is so hard. This is melissa salomonsson. A local local woman whose kids went to daycare which evening just a really good family they would have done anything for anybody and i just can't imagine anybody would want to hurt them. I i can't imagine anybody would have any. Ill will towards them so it's just really confusing in petty gerber. The local parish director from classes church goes into more detail about this with caroline reporter quarter danny spe- walk. I can't picture denise with me talking to her not having a smile on her face very positive way at least to me and jamie any kind of the same way but a little shyer you know it's a little grin out of the sight of her face. She's looking at me. I mean that's how i picture her. <hes> just just sweet and supportive sportive. I mean very positive just a little bit about the involvement the jamie and who feel we've had over the years with the church. Jamie has been one of our students for <hes>. I believe since she was in preschool i actually was her second grade and first communion teacher and and have worked with her a lot through the years. Here's a church as well as growth and other things but i'm her mom also taught religious ed forest for several years. She liked to work with the younger students. I i think a lot of people are just in shock still. It's pretty surreal because it's any unexpected tragedy. It's just hard to believe you've that it actually happened and we don't know all the details but i think a lot of people are hurting and think you know jamie missing. The focus is there right now but as as time goes on in the week you know people are going to really feel <hes> that farrell from the loss of those two people strikes me as like a helpless feeling his everybody wants to help they want to get out and canvass but i think one has their eye on what they think the services is that right right so i i think everybody wants to help feels helpless but also we have a lot of trust in in our our sheriff's department are sheriff is a phenomenal in very well respected christmas gerald and i think people have the confidence events that they're doing everything that they can. <hes> you know being a leader of the church the biggest thing we can offer and suggested people is prayer <hes> because you know guy can help us. Maybe get through this one way or the other or maybe help to find her and at least give somebody and people <hes> <hes> feeling like they can do something great. That was really really helpful so aw so many people telling us. They want to do something anything to help. It does seem a little strange to us that there are no search is going on. It's been and four days since the thirteen year old barron wisconsin girl vanished and a nationwide amber alert began finally with jamie now missing for four days. Sheriff fitzgerald asked for one one hundred volunteers to do a small ground search near highway eight twice. I do not know more than six hundred people volunteer almost immediately pretty darn close to home messed up literally went home scotland colleague ashley van and bring doesn't find anything in either do the other other ninety-nine searchers walking through the ditch between the highway and the railroad tracks wearing yellow reflective vests over their hoodies but everyone involved seems to be happy to be able to do something something meantime. We're finally learning a few more details about the crime scene. Even though it was implied before sheriff fitzgerald now finally confirms jim in denise kloss died from a shooting and he says the killer made it in and out of the home within four minutes which they can tell because of the time that passed between the nine one one call in when the first deputy arrived the county releases the nine one one call log one of the few pieces of information that is presumed to be public information in these early stages of of an investigation. This document contains the notes put into the computer by the nine one one dispatcher the night of the crime. We're now on day five of the amber alert and search that will will stretch into the weekend and despite more than one thousand tips and hundreds of interviews. There is still no sign of jamie tonight. Gordon seaver sens live and baron with a breakdown breakdown of the timeline of these nine. One one calls randy those nine one one logs offer some new insight into what happened at the close family home that night they showed that the front door had been kicked in and that the nine one one call was made on denise classes phone and it came from inside the home but all dispatchers could here on the other end was who's yelling at twelve fifty six monday morning the first nine one one call went out from denise classes cell phone but it's unclear she herself made the call that call went dead so dispatchers tried calling back even trying the family's home phone but the line was disconnected at one zero six deputies reported the front door had been kicked in in a man was lying unresponsive on the floor and there was evidence of gunfire at one eleven they reported to people unresponsive inside the home at one thirty to a search. Search team was requested at three fifty seven. Jamie was officially declared missing and then twelve hours later. The amber alert went out. I arrive in berend aaron for the first time on sunday as we approached one week. Since jimmy disappeared we start with the missing thirteen year old girl from wisconsin. Jamie kloss is in barron wisconsin where the community yundi is praying for jamie to come home safely. Lou i attended morning church service where a priest lights a candle in says a special prayer for the close family some of the churchgoers this chat with me afterwards what could've told us take really over the last week. It's been pretty shocking. <hes> i actually worked for the school and we have definitely seen the impact not only in the community but in the school in as the larger nation almost because you hear the word baron and they're like oh did they find that girl yet so it's pretty incredible you know what kind of toll does the unknowing. Take people on kids i. I've heard that the middle school has <hes> been going through a lot ought and it's been very hard because with a death there's banality but there is no finality right now. There's just everybody's just just wondering what if and what we're she and how do we move forward is a small community and stuff like this. This isn't supposed to happen in small communities. The reason why we live <hes> an two hours away from the cities is that recent that we want to to be quiet. We want to maintain our lives without any worry about someone breaking in our to our houses and violent crimes <hes>. Do you feel like it's kind of weighing on everybody around town. I think it is very much so everybody has been kinda gloomy. Tell me this past week. You feel like there's still hope i do. I never give up hope but with each passing day it seems you know no new clues. No new leads so it's hard to have that hope but we pray looses goosen baron tonight where the sheriff has received more than twelve hundred tips in the case there was no official update today from the barren county sheriff's office. A lot of the residents. I spoke to are looking forward to a community gathering tomorrow night at the middle school that jamie attempts the next day late afternoon before that community gathering finally we we learn what sounds like a real clue good evening. Take a look at your screen in the last hour. The barron county sheriff released these photos they they're looking for possible vehicles of interest interest in the search for thirteen year old team e-class. Let's get right to reduce who was at this ep news conference in barron lou earlier. This is the biggest tip law enforcement has given the public so so far as they continue to search for the suspects and hopefully bring jamie close home alive. The sheriff says they've identified through surveillance video. What they call vehicles of interest sheriff fitzgerald is back at the podium with poster size photos of cars next to him through the examination of video camera footage both from businesses and homes we you've determined to vehicles near the cost home at the time of the incident. The first vehicle is likely a two thousand eight to two thousand fourteen dodge challenger redder orange orange color. The second vehicle is likely either a two thousand six to two thousand ten ford edge black or two thousand and four to two thousand and ten acura m._d._x. Black in color were they seen in the yard and the family's yard. They were seen in the area also for the community. This is a good time now that we have some vehicles of of interest to look for changes in behavior are routine of people. We have the two cars described either. They don't drive them anymore. They've changed their routine gene on what they drive or were. They drive sightings of jamie. You should call nine one one sightings of this vehicle. You should call our tip line at at the press conference. We're not actually shown the surveillance photos but instead just stock photos of the making model of the vehicles. The sheriff tells us about fitzgerald says no other makes and models of vehicles are being followed up on again the big news late this afternoon is the revelation of the possible make and model of cars belonging to the suspects carla all right liberties. I live in barron wisconsin. Thank you so much do know this evening's community gathering ends up getting so much interest. They move it from the middle school to high school football field under the full moon superintendent tremblay in a local pastor welcomed the families as they fill the bleachers while police canines walk past the cars parked along the nearby by streets students lineup on the field and everyone lights a candle this vigil this gathering of hope as they call. It is really what the community has been craving. It's the first time they've all gotten together in one place at the same time since the tragedy one week ago. Is it our evening together. We'll provide some comfort and support to everyone here tonight. We have the same goal in mind and that is to bring jamie the home we intentionally chose the call this event a gathering of hope because moves us against the facts a circumstance and beyond despair fear and anxiety whole is this your presence of peace in the midst of grief and deep sadness. This is a gathering to embrace the shared experiences of all who have gathered here and the face the sadness and fear we will overcome next. It's the students turn. Jamie's classmates from riverview middle school unbearable <music> community stands behind her oh aw mm-hmm so hello in tears among the hundreds at the football field <music> when the students finish there's a long moment of silence then without saying a word a local musician approaches the microphone in plays a moving rendition of let it be by the beatles. This isn't just any local musician. This is chris cruzi twenty-seven-year-old flannel shirt and backwards cap wearing man with a long beard and hair who just began performing on n._b._c.'s the the voice and i received a call and was asked to come out and so you got a call from the voice. He didn't say i'm audition. They called you and said it come on. The show is weird is strange. Chris cruzi who after being selected by country music superstar blake shelton would bring jamie story to the national stage just twelve days before jamie was taken. We sent a news crew to baron to talk to people around town about their excitement excitement jamie class in her classmates at riverview middle school made one of the dozens of signs around town supporting cruzi and if you walk through the streets of baron. It's hard not not find a sign like this supporting their hometown boy. I have known his parents for quite a while and he went to school with my son and my daughter in law and he he was actually my son's roommate for a couple years in college and i heard him i sing with the band sweet action for the middle school talent show and i've been following him ever since it was so awesome it was just very emotional and i couldn't imagine how proud his family was of him. The voices battle rounds will begin on october fifteenth. No doubt everyone here in barron will be cheering him on eyewear soon best of luck and me all dreams cultural of course october fifteenth. It was the day of the terrible crime in the community's priorities shifted as cruzi advanced on the show that week but cruzi will give these folks something to cheer about as they navigate negate their fear sadness and confusion caroline reporter kenner al reported most of the stories about kris cruzi for us. He joins us here now to talk more about it. Hi ken kylo. I tell us about that. First meeting you had with chris cruzi shortly after jimmy disappeared. I think the thing that really struck me was it was that time when barron had just been turned upside down. The national media just descended on barren. They're having news conferences and as you roll into town the first name that you actually see is chris cruzi everywhere the community that supported him he was everywhere there were signs everywhere there were and as you know it was kind of surreal at that point because you realize there's already someone that this community has rallied behind so i reached out and chris was in town. He decided to meet me away from where all the commotion was happening in a small park and we really just had a heart to heart conversation. It wasn't even so much about obviously his role in this big television show us talking about how he was stunned like everyone else what had had happened since hard to grasp but something that you know no one around here has experienced dealing with so it's it's it's. I don't know how else to put it. We're all we're wrong shot. He had a relationship <hes> just as far as knowing. Jim kloss by seeing him at the gym around town. Certainly it's a small town people know each other and and he was just <hes> shellshocked really everyone's praying and hoping for her safe return if there's something that this community that this community can do. I guarantee you that you'll see. Almost everyone in this town talents doing everything they can to help at this point chris cruzi had taped some episodes for the voice however the live stuff hasn't really started yet. How did this completely change his time on the voice or in fact. It was really an odd time because he couldn't speak at that point. He knew what had had happened. He knew that he had made it on but nobody else did and he couldn't speak about that. So here's a guy sitting on this huge advancement for his career yeah some really exciting being news and he couldn't talk about an instead he was all of a sudden thrust into the middle of this awful story and it it really paralleled each other as this all went on but he i just found this way to balance his concern for the community and not exploiting any of this situation but also giving it a bigger voice on the voice it became almost almost a national story through the voice and it was huge so many people were just enthralled with what was going on and he really elevated the spotlight for this search for her now. Now there were two separate appearances in barron early on. I was at this community meeting of hope. This vigils held at the football field where he performed a song. They're very emotional aw in honor of jamie he certainly did and that was something that really that really meant a lot to them. It's just be one people need it. I mean it's it's just like anything i just. It happened to be a musician. I mean there were also people there that were serving food and you know organizing the whole thing and my part just happened to be playing music and that was you know it was a piece that they needed nike provides the <hes> i'm part of this community and i mean it's i was able to provide that service for this and there was this other story that you've reported where he performed specially for the kids at the school. Were jamie went yeah. It was something that he had planned to be doing at some point and then all of a sudden in all of this happened and coincided with that time he had spent time in the same middle school as jamie. That's where he got his start. In music and all of a sudden he's going in there and he realizes that he's he's not only playing for students but he's there to lift their spirits and he said he took that very personally and it was really really special to see him connect. After after ten days of prayers and pleas for jamie kloss barons riverview middle school to finally had reason to cheat. She's on singer songwriter chris. Cruzi is the other name. You'll find all over town sign after signed. I'm cheri him on as a contestant on n._b._c.'s the voice overwhelming at times when it's really cool and long before the national spotlight cruzi says his community had his back oh cool i mean because there's there's a lot going on and just to be able to come in and you know bring everybody's mood up a little bit and have them have fun and make some noise and be goofy and <hes> be kids <hes> yeah that was the whole point of it so it's this is barren wisconsin. We're small town. Everybody knows everybody and everybody's he's got each other's backs and <hes> if i can come into the school something like this to bring the moods up with the kids. That's a small thing that i can do in a tough time for our community. What do you want the kids to walk away with. <hes> smiles in a good mood yeah that'd be about it. How did they react to chris when he was is there at their school while they're going through this terrible time the energy was incredible and they were really just you could tell everyone had just been looking forward to celebrating and singing and and getting into something that could take their mind off of this and that's what the superintendent had communicated to me as well that it couldn't have happened at a better time and could you see some of that pain on on the children as <music> as they're going through this whole ordeal as well whenever the cameras were around and we weren't even like you said pointing at them but you could tell it was just that hesitant because 'cause they knew all of that media was there to talk about jamie and everything else and so i think this also helped them see that it was not just the coverage of <unk> her but this guy that they could look up to now. These two storylines were completely unavoidable the chris cruzi on the voice storyline and then the horrible thing that's going on with jamie amy and the death of her parents. It really couldn't be avoided that that became kind of his story on the voice yeah and that was a tough thing you could tell even as i talked to him several several times through this process <hes> that hesitant to keep going back to that because here's a guy who's establishing his career. He's having this big moment and it's such a joyous thing and and yet there's also this story that he cares deeply about and and so he he was always willing to talk and do what he could for the community entity but you could tell he also just he wanted to be able to focus on his career as well so it was a tough balance for him in cruces top live performance on the show he tells jamie me story to coach blake shelton into the national audience then he pays tribute to her by singing. Let it be by the beatles. I talked with him. Via satellite after the performance is really really a no-brainer that <hes> i had to find some way to you know pay tribute and then somehow bring hope and <hes> <hes> i think most importantly keep jamie's name in the news. I hate to see that dwindling away as it went on you went back a couple more times and you were with the people of baron as they had watched parties and so forth for chris cruzi. Did you feel like did they were they able to fully embrace cheering for him. Was it something to get their minds off of the bad news or was it something that that took it down a notch. No there was an absolute joy watching him and it was that perfect kind of break for so many people there to be able to see him up. They're putting them on the map also helping raise awareness for this and they just they knew you what kind of a guy he was and what he had done for them and there was so much joy and so many people said it was what they needed more than anything else a hey anne ah we will explore. We'll listen. We will understand stand. We will share every day care eleven. We bring you news with impact stories that make a real difference to your family. That's why we will question we will verify and and we will advocate on behalf of all minnesotans holding our leaders accountable providing facts and context stirring the story diving deeper because better understanding outstanding build stronger communities. I'm randy shape and i'm julie nelson join us for care eleven news at ten. Another thing that people have barron needed was to roll up thir sleeves and help. I told you i'd come out in front of you. When i had information that i needed from the public and telling you we need two thousand people tomorrow to do a search and finally not just a one hundred person short walk along a highway a large scale search for evidence across the rolling farm fields in the woods beyond the city of baron right through the streets in town. The volunteers are asked to meet at nine a._m. And the next morning there's a caravan of slow moving vehicles backed up for miles heading toward the meeting spot in the middle of the field where there's so many cars people volunteers parking attendants barron county sheriff's department put out the call and the community he is answering this morning with two thousand volunteers asked to come here just north of the community of baron to start in all day ground search. Will they be looking for any evidence. It ends related to the jamie case and her disappearance. That happened now more than a week ago. There has been a long line of cars to get into this field. This morning as people are eager to the help with this investigation. Well i have a granddaughter that's eleven so emotional and i took it for a couple of times to go visit them. This week and seemed crime seem so yeah very very touching. I'm mostly unbelievable people that are here when you look at it and you see i mean when we walked up and see all the cars and you see this if you on the spot because how does that make you feel just looking senior album just unreal. It's just people from everywhere so yeah. It's it's really inspirational that there are a lot of good souls out there. Thank you for volunteering your time today. It's a sad case that we're all here but but i think it's a really good cause and many law enforcement officials like this from all over the region are organizing the volunteers in leading the search they document everyone's ide- and perhaps in case the killer is inserting himself in the investigation. You know your help is definitely appreciated and is going to go a long ways today so our team will be searching to to square mile area for anything pertinent to the search so are looking for cellphones guns clothes etc anything of evidentiary trey value that could be related to a thirteen year old female so if you find something of interest let your team leader no will flag it and someone will check it out. Don't pick it up. No do not touch anything so it'd be walking slowly <hes> about a mile an hour and looking for anything the size of wallet cell phone gun on etc. I have kids so i know if my kid was missing kids. I know people would be there to help <hes> so i own a couple of businesses and i put it out to my employees today if they wanted to go and help. We brought a bus down today so we add <hes> little takeover an hour drive. You know there's a lot of things you can and can't control <hes> the only thing i can really control when you're seeing this a little girl missing as being here today and being here when they asked for help you know your heart goes out <hes> my daughter's fourteen. She's thirteen so it really hits home. This man sudreau fifty miles to help is slowly walking alongside a city street with a group of seventy five people swishing away the leaves with his feet guys on the corner. You're gonna have to go really slow and wait for them for that top. I'm looking for something. That's obvious girl size shirt or a state trooper stops to mark a piece of clothing. He finds on a steep embankment but he's not optimistic that it's evidence but i'm gonna market. I don't think they're gonna have any interest in this but i'll let them know oh boater so our news helicopter overhead captures nikon ick view a line of people hundreds of yards long searching but no one finds the link that they're hoping hoping for in a message late this afternoon the barron county wisconsin sheriff called the response from the community and law enforcement overwhelming in the sheriff told us here as people are starting to leave that there there's no evidence recovered yet connected to the investigation necessarily <hes> but even with that being said here was really the effort that counted it was comforting in the fact back that we didn't find anything really horrible but <hes> of course we want to find something that can bring leads in and find out where jamie's at the community comes comes together not just barren but all of western wisconsin and beyond and that bond promises to keep hope alive perhaps longer than before they gathered for the search is backed up for several miles before i could get here and just to see the outpouring from not just our community but from people as far as missouri and from the twin cities it came over today to help us with the search was just amazing just really speaks volumes without the negativity. That's going on in the world see that there is still some good and when i return to minneapolis everyone has questions. What do i think happened to jamie and the biggest mystery to me is did the person or people involved killer parents so that i think of get to jamie or did they target her parents intake jamie because she was a witness <hes> another question i keep hearing. Why isn't jim into his family talking publicly. Here's what the sheriff told us. We do not have a gay going around the family. The family family is chosen to all of their comments will come through me. Everything that you hear from this podium is what happened. They wanna bring jamie home. That's all they want <hes> and they don't need to talk about casino. We're doing in our team's doing more here. There's no playbook of how to handle a tragedy like this but reporters in minnesota are somewhat conditioned from nineteen eighty-nine kidnapping in case of a little boy named jacob underling whose name everyone in the state remembers. If you don't know the case jacob was taken by a masked man in front of his brother and a friend in a small minnesota town. Jacob's parents patty and jerry were on t._v. From the first day pleading for the abductor to bring him home. The wetlands didn't get closer for more than twenty five five years when jacobs kidnapper and killer was finally caught the wetlands became household names in minnesota in patty wetering went on to become a national advocate for missing children children so i think when we see a similar situation that's what we expect to happen but it's important to remember. This case is more than a missing person case jim in denise class. Were were brutally murdered. We imagine the rest of jaime's family could be scared for their own lives and care eleven anchor john shortland. I convey that in a conversation we aired when i returned to. You're not hearing from the family. You know not getting in further cameras in leading to bring back their loved one. Why is that. I don't know the sheriff told us yesterday that the families asked all of their comments comments to come through him. He just told us that they told him they want to be left alone and who can blame them. They could be terrified with denise and james being killed olden jamie vanishing all in the dark of night. There is no script on what they should say or could say we've not seen anything quite like this but finally on day ten we learn. We're about to hear from jamie's family next. I want to introduce jennifer smith anti jamie for a short statement jennifer smith jamie's godmother the same woman we saw in tears on day two approaches the podium we would like to thank the community for their continued love and support of our family during this extremely extremely difficult time he was amazing to see the outpouring of love at the vigil the other night for jamie in her left hand. Jennifer holds a bottle of starbucks starbucks iced coffee next to her stands jennifer sister susie. Allard susie is holding a shaggy white and grey dog. Both women have ribbons pinned to their coats blue. When green jamie's favorite colors ribbons. The community was distributing this week to help raise awareness jamie not a moment goes by when we aren't thinking of you and praying trained for you. Your family and friends miss you so much your sparkling. Is your bright smile. You're soft little giggles. It's your dog. Molly is waiting for you. She's sleeping in one of your sweatshirts and we'll only eat chicken. Grandpa needs new artwork kind of fridge. Aunt susie wants to go jogging in the park with you and i want that girl shopping date we planned. I even brought your favorite ice coffee with me today to our may know where jamie as please contact the barron county sheriff department jamie we. I need you here with us to fill that hole. We have in our hearts. We all love you to the moon and back and we will never stop looking for you tomorrow. Marks a somber anniversary in the small community of barron wisconsin as a search for jamie kloss hits the one month mark next time on eighty eight days days. Jamie's family opens up. Whoever did this cannot get away with it. They can't through them. We get to know jim eh niece. We're trying to grieve a rather than sister-in-law god but when you grieve then you feel guilty because you're grieving because he's still have a niece that we want to come home. They share what they think might have happened in with the holidays approaching approaching. They give us a clear picture of how their lives have changed. It's shocking. It's devastating but we'll have hope we'll we'll get through it and off. Hopefully she comes home and we'll be everybody will be good while we can do. This is eight hundred eight days. The jamie class story a care eleven original podcast in association with volt studios checkout eighty eight days podcast dot dot com for more information on the jamie class case eight hundred days is written and produced by me lura goose in l._a. Coder original music is by dave dave mailing in emily havoc in original artwork by david malman special thanks to care levin management and staff for their contributions the people of barron wisconsin johnson and the close family.

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Chapter 5: The Escape

88 Days: The Jayme Closs Story

49:39 min | 1 year ago

Chapter 5: The Escape

"We believe jamie was in the home at the time of the homicides and we believe she's still endanger a brutal murder in the middle of the night in a thirteen thirteen year old girl missing the case of jamie cloud captures the nation's attention sense of urgency is growing by the minute here in barron county arne wisconsin a community on edge all scared who who did this who would do something like this a family desperate to find her. My life was ripped apart and she had entered into pieces. A mystery in a small town been doing this for twenty years and i just don't know what happened in this case but hope never lost. Thank god god after those days we at least got answers. I'm louvre goose. This is eighty eight days. The jamie cloths story chapter five the escape just in tonight. Wisconsin's barron county sheriff wants everyone to know the jamie kloss has not been found <hes>. This is the story near the top of our six p._m. Newscast on january tenth two thousand nineteen there were rumors this afternoon that the thirteen year old have have been found in walworth county after a post on the back the blue wisconsin facebook page. The sheriff posted that there is a large law enforcement presence in walworth county but that it's not related to the jamie clause case. Jamie has been missing since october. Our newsroom is buzzing when and someone spots that facebook post its on a law enforcement support group called back the blue wisconsin they right jamie classes alive found in walworth county details coming soon walworth county is all the way across the state four and a half hours away near the illinois border but then sheriff chris fitzgerald response on social media by posting jamie close has not been located. This is false news back the blue wisconsin then deletes its post in deactivates its page because of that. I'm not able to directly reach out to them to find out where they got their information but it's not sitting well with me because pages like this are often run by close friends friends or family members of officers and they do often hear about developments in cases before that information is officially released to the press then on the other hand sheriff fitzgerald pretty firmly bats down the notion that jamie was found but as i go home have dinner and start to put my kids to bed it still bothers me and my suspicions grow as i start hearing from other people who are following the case who tell me that they're hearing that sheriff. Fitzgerald is wrong. Jamie actually was found so what about at seven thirty for my kitchen. I call kelly engelhardt gym classes sister whom i interviewed at her mother's home in ladysmith two months earlier kelly is actually in barren when she answers at a high school basketball game ladysmith versus baron. I can hear referee whistles in crowd cheers in the background but i also noticed. Kelly's voice is trembling. I'm standing next to my wife. As i asked kelly is there news in kelly blurts out lou they found her uh she just found out the news herself moments earlier a deputy had walked right into the basketball game and told her my next question for kelly is jamie alive in kelly says she's alive. They got her. She's coming home unbelievable. After eighty eight days in hours after an apparent false also alarm we find out jamie class is alive. I call kelly back with the recorder. Hey kelly it's lou again. Hey say i was wondering if i could it. Just <hes> get a quote from you. Who's your reaction. When you heard the news i cried. I sat down on the bench. I was shocked because so much bad news this year <hes> while no thousand eighteen so cooking is good news in two thousand nineteen <hes> it's what we pay for every single day for the last seven days or whatever it is eighty seven eighty eight. I can't even remember they didn't reach a point where you were bracing yourself for bad news or anything like not not i honestly i honestly <hes> honestly they had faced. I i figured if they hadn't found her by now. That person that did this so i had hope everyday everyday there is rich read too much love and support around us for us to give up. That's awesome yeah. It's unbelievable. I i can't wait to hear what happened. You know i honestly only things that i know that she i believe and i don't even know this at the game and i think she walked away from the house so much you can help somebody. The neighbor hulk so that's all i know. Have you called other family members and let everybody know everybody. Everybody up everybody saying well. I met the game after we leave the game. My mother's house my brother mother. Two brothers others are there. The family is <hes>. I don't know i i think we're just kind of all in shop we <hes> i told jennifer after that when she gets her hands in her arms to call me so that we know that she's physically back so that's all we're waiting for. Do you know what jimmy heard it all or anything like that or she healthily. They didn't tell us if that everything what's that she can answer questions now. It's so awesome we we can't thank you covering everything and i mean we brace ourselves for bad news. You know to be honest. We see so much event yup and so when something like this happens. It's just where we're all on cloud nine right now. Oh absolutely we literally talked. Her sister and i said i don't even know what to say to you. Jennifer i said because we've had such bad news all the time and in everything was so depressing and now it's good. It's hard to even a tarp even feel because you've you've been you sound so bad for so long so when we see her be different but right now we just just so happy so happy with everybody law enforcement f._b._i. Ride even absolutely wonderful. I'm happy for you guys. Thank you can see you guys again. Sounds great. Thank you have a good night back as producer ellie coders with me here so elliott get this news in my kitchen. It hasn't been reported anywhere. I call our news director stuart oslo and i calmly only tell him jimmy class has been found. She's alive. We need to get right on this and i also had been told and i told him that it's going to become official shaw at eight o'clock. It's about seven thirty right now. So what's the reaction like back in our newsroom on that night. I was producing the ten o'clock news so i had pretty much the whole whole show setup. Everything was pretty much ready to go. I was just working on writing and my executive producers and new chapman gets a phone call and runs out of the room. I looked at her those kind of weird and she comes running back in and shouts to the whole newsroom. Jamie clause has been found and we're all sitting there we just kind of look at her and it's done silence and someone says the same thing alive and she says yes and i just i was sitting at my desk and i kind of just froze for like probably almost a full minute and was just staring at my computer screen in shock <unk> absolute shock because this is one of those situations where this is terrible but when you're in this business you so rarely expect any good news to happen so i don't. I can't speak for everyone else but i'd never thought you would be found alive. I was an absolute shock and then you don't have a lot of time to waste waste because it's almost eight p._m. And the news is going on at ten like ready or not. It's going on at ten so all of a sudden. Everybody's just on the phone. I like like i think i looked at somebody that works on our assignment desk and i had call everyone. Call everyone because this is going to be an all hands on deck situation because we needed to get this on the air air and we wanted to do like a live cut in so we had to wait for it to get officially confirmed. We had to get you in. We had to get somebody in the car bearing because it's two hours away and it was like a probably probably a full like twenty minutes to a half an hour of just like a little bit of panic trying to figure out what we were going to do to make this happen right and talking about that that surprised that she's found alive. I'm feeling the same thing and and i even in my phone call paul with kelly. I even say you know we these things. Don't always end up this way and you know we talked a little bit about the jacob waddling case earlier in this podcast and for me i personally growing up in minnesota in getting a little emotional talking about it because <hes> that was a difficult thing to go through because i was eight years old. When jacob was kidnapped and that's one thousand nine hundred nine he was eleven years old at the time and growing up and becoming a reporter. I think just about every reporter who grew up in minnesota whose about my age would say that their dream interview would be that jacob burling comes home alive and says i have a story to tell and you get to sit down and share that happiness that he's alive and and and find out what happened where he's been and just that happy ending and so when that case ended after twenty seven seven years with us finding out that he was dead and he was actually killed the night that he was taken. I think it just absolutely tore me apart personally even even though when you think about it. That's the most likely thing that happened. Of course that's what happened and i think that would jamie class. Yes i really did the best. I could to guard my emotions because i didn't want that same feeling again if it turns out that way where we found out out that she was killed the night that she was taken and so it's just this euphoria when you find out that she's alive and i really can't remember the last time that that i couldn't wait to get back to work to finish the story. Thank you for joining us. We have incredible breaking news tonight. Thirteen year enrolled jamie class has been found alive just an hour north of her home in barron wisconsin. She'd been missing for almost three months. Timmy was fouled this afternoon. After the douglas county sheriff's office received a call from a citizen and just minutes later a suspect was taken into custody. The douglas county sheriff's office in wisconsin says she was found around just outside the small town of gordon and development called. Oh claire acres. The news broke just before eight o'clock tonight. On the barren county sheriff's facebook page sheriff chris fitzgerald says his department was notified by the douglas county sheriff's department then jamie had been found people embarrassing and surrounding communities are stunned tonight tonight that after months of searching jamie's alive there are still a lot of things we don't know tonight. However lura goose has been making lots of calls on any developments from our newsroom and talked the jamie's family giulini. Jamie's families in shock and it's an okay we all know is rare in a case like this. Her family members believed she was targeted and taken against answer. Well we now know. Jamie was in a development about seven miles east of the small town of gordon wisconsin. There are a lot of cabins there seasonal and permanent residents family family members. Tell us they were told. Jamie got out and ask for help he jeff. This is louvre goose calling from caroline. Hey congratulations congratulations on the good news and so <hes> just tell me what you're what you're going through right now and how you heard the news and how you reacted we were it was just unbelievable because we hear about the you know you're not sure if she's going to be found everything phone and and then when you actually hear it just just unbelievable. We're all all just so grateful and happy shock. Yes and i think that's part of it. Too was like now. It's just it's just great we did. We were all at my mother's house. Got it. Just kinda china's celebrating here a little bit. We don't really know a lot honest with you. We just know that she is <hes> on our way home the hopefully she's okay okay. We don't really know what shape she's inter- you know. We don't really know a lot always she's alive. She's alive and that's what matters the class families together tonight. Celebrating celebrating we know there is a suspect in custody but the barron county sheriff has not released more information about him. The family tells me jamie was taken to the hospital in we'll be reunited with them later tonight or tomorrow morning or any julie just amazing. Thank you can earn al is live in barron tonight. Can't julia was <hes> back in december. When this tree behind me was lit up in jamie's honor tonight. I'm going to bring in a couple of people here who were really helping that light shine in barron. We've got melissa salomonsson jennifer halverson. A youtube started the facebook page light the way home for jamie. Tell me about your reaction tonight. When this news came in <hes> aesthetic in shock waited overjoyed just every good emotion. You can imagine a bunch of tears and honestly i just just was so thinking. God is so good and this is a true life near call and it proves that being hopeful positive and prayers can actually produce a miracle aw again missing thirteen year old. Jamie clause has been found alive about an hour north of her hometown of barron wisconsin. A suspect is in custody and her family's families anxiously awaiting to be reunited with her sometime tonight or tomorrow we sign off from our newscasts but our work is really just beginning with canton hansen baron we send danny speak to gordon wisconsin to try to find out exactly how jamie was found and the heroic neighbors step forward the next day to let everyone know they didn't find jamie. Jamie found them. I was on kind of a regular walk. I take my dog on up here. Genie nutter is wearing a long yellow l. o. parker in his walking her golden lab named henry standing bear jeans in her sixties her silver hair pulled into a bun reporters and cameras gather around genie in a circle the right there on the gravel road under the early afternoon sun and she begins to tell us how jamie class approached her looking to shoveled wearing adult men's tennis shoes on the wrong feet and i was finishing my walk right at the end of my driveway and jamie was coming towards me so i was a social worker in child protection for for like thirty years so that part of my brain kicked in and i said this is a kid who needs something so she as i got closer to her she sort of fell fallon to me and told me who she was with. She said i'm gene and i recognized her immediately. She just said i'm lost. I don't know where i am. She said i don't know where i am a couple of times and i explained you're in gordon wisconsin in when i knew who she was. I said jimmy you're really only an hour and a half or so from home. If that gives you some perspective perspective so then my other brain kicked in said get this kid safe and on. Don't bring your to your cabin because i'm alone with just my dog so i went went. I went to one house and no one was there. So then i went to peter and kristen's house was i knew she's a teacher. She'd be home. She would get it to let me in so i knocked on the door and said you need to let me union. Call nine one one because i believe i have changed with me. She wasn't dressed for the weather on. She just had on on on some kind of slacks and a sweatshirt. No gloves no had no mittens nothing so i knew i need to get out of the cold. I needed to get her off the road. I did ask her. If the alleged perpetrator was poem she said no. I said is he in a car and she said yes so. I asked her what color because i would want to no if i saw a car coming to do plan b. which i didn't know what it was but hitter away from the road i just wanted her in a house and and wanted the police to be here so that's what i did was safety scared for her. I wasn't i just want. I just kept kept telling myself. Don't let her know. You're scared. Just talk calmly walked calmly. My dog was just like this. He was calm so i got her to peter and christians and so that's it have you thought about what are the odds that you just happened to be out walking your dog at the time that jamie had escaped find her. It's just just crazy. You know. I just happened to be at the right place at the right time and i had some social skills that i used and my husband was a police officer so i've learned from him. Just be calm and all. I wanted to get her safe. You know jamie clause when you saw her. Yes yes who all you know. If you live in wisconsin you know who she is. I my job is not to ask questions not to interrogate her. My job was to keep her calm and nwsafe and that's all he did. She found a social worker and a teacher best to and not only is she a teacher their foster parents at one time so his like like a damn miracle and you had said that jamie wasn't dressed for the weather knows her condition otherwise <hes> considering the you know ah worked with kids who have been victims of childhood trauma and i knew her parents were killed so i knew she had experienced unthinkable trauma you knowing that she seemed pretty calm but i just all. I could say to myself as be calm. Keep her calm so that's all we did and we got her to peter and kristen's. She said it was canada. Roth to the yeah i i told her she was going to be okay. Hogging the cops great new tooker occurred fish and kristen and the kid just got home from school. Kristen and peter kaczynski's are both forty years. Old parents have school aged kids. Kristen is a teacher at nearby northwood school district. They live on the same country loop as jeannie a one point. Five mile u-shaped gravel road called. Oh clear acres circle like a lot of the homeowners here. Genie just visits her cabinet once a month or so but peter in kristen live there year round. That's why jeannie went straight for their house. She thought they'd be home home. And then we saw the neighbor knocked the big yellow dog and she knocked on the door swung open. The dog came in and then here. She helps jamie into the kitchen and says this is jamie clause call nine one one county number one high. I have a young lady at my health right now and she says her native janney cloth okay okay. Have you seen her photo ma'am her. I think her okay under present. Does that look like he's gonna run. No nouns in her lack of okay hang on just a second when she came in. I knew it was her immediately and i think even my kids knew it was her. I mean we've been looking at her face everywhere everywhere everywhere so it was no doubt in my mind that it was her and then she was really calm. I thought she was pretty quiet but she was kinda smiling when talk to her. She said hello to the kids very sweet very sweet. Well chris is on the phone with the nine one one dispatcher you can hear her and jeannie asking jamie questions questions drinker water anything. I know everybody's wondering what did she look like. How was she tired skinny. You know dirty. She hasn't hasn't probably has a bay them quite a while if at all <hes> but yeah she just she looked as you know when she didn't didn't really have any emotion to his co. Probably shocked you know relieved all that at once and you know to get out of where she was you know it was probably too much for her brain to really handle rate then. What did you say to her when she interaction well. Kristen and i tried to get the guy's name i'm in the car so we got that first and then she asked if if she had known him before this happened she said no. I did not know him until he came to the house and then she said he he killed my parents and took me and that's what she said said she did not know who he was and she didn't all that all this was going on like like she had no no access to any media of any kind because she didn't know anybody who's looking for her so because when we saw her and we said we know you we've seen a lot and she was surprised that you you know we know who she was asked her if she ever been to gordon. She said she doesn't know where gordon is. She didn't know anything about gordon. Did she indicate that she has been in that house for all three months. No she didn't say if the whole time. She just got him the nine one one dispatcher asked to talk to jeanie too you i was walking my dog and we were almost home and she was walking towards me. Crying saying you gotta help me. God help me. He didn't know where she was. When i parker who was. Where am i am i. She doesn't have any shoes she's wearing his tennis shoes with shoe view with and she thought i am dany cloth. I killed my parents. I wanna go home. Jamie told the neighbors she escaped after her captor left the house in it's not clear how long he'll be gone the neighbors worry he could come back looking for her at any moment combat saying that he's going to be homemade native night a pressure thing okay. I know where he went or what he does. She told me that when he leaves her she doesn't know that he's gone. He comes up loud push to hide under a bed he had hidden under a bed. What was the situation that she was in in that house being hidden get friends over. She said when he would have people over you know friends whatever that he would hide her so they didn't know she was there. We don't she didn't say where she you. Just said that. He would hide her so she did not say where. She's being held them house. She say how she got out. She did not say no no and we did. We didn't want to ask too many questions other than to get the police to our house and get her gun and safe right away so we don't want to traumatize more than she already is and will be for quite some time so we're kind of scared because he might come up if the cockatoos i have. I have many deputy thought about way. I'm gonna keep the on the line. Okay okay ma'am my daddy. She just wants to lock the doors whole collected for anybody but then he had the kids get downstairs and i went to a back door of her house just to make sure that nobody is coming in from the back side of the house and then within you see five minutes of them knowing he was in the area. They had him in custody. Where are you also fearful. Earnings is a guy kizer killing. I you know i didn't really i wasn't scared geared. I mean it was there's so much going on. I just thought do what i need to do to keep the people that are in my house safe right now and then that's all i did it so i did. It didn't cross my mind to be scared and we probably walked by that house with our dogs several times we didn't also there's you know it is what it is and i'm just glad she's alive and you're she needs to be right now so yeah so we can just pray that she makes a good recovery and and you know gets better just the exact thing. I talked to my pastor last night because i wanted him to know and he says no. That's probably why you bought that house three years ago so this podcast is sponsored by the new caroline app now totally redesigned to make it the newest easiest must have app for minnesota weather with interactive radar video forecasts and hyper local accurate weather alert it is still coming in with a lot of lightning and thunder. We do have a few warnings out for a number of counties from the hottest days to the most most severe storms. Stay on top of it all with the new cara levin app download or update today meantime about seventy miles south in barron. Welcome excuse me for my voice. Lost of course yesterday sheriff of chris fitzgerald walks into a press conference with a huge smile on his face. I mean it was first on real and is it true and then when we confirm i sheriff doll beck's team that it's confirmed that was her. <hes> you know my legs started to shake man. It was it was awesome. It was just this dress address and relief. I mean it was just it was awesome. I don't have a different word. I mean it's just fabulous. It was district your point. Never it felt there's no reason to give up hope. We didn't have any evidence to show that she was injured or that. She was hurt at the scene. <hes> there was no reason to give up. Hope <hes> that tree lighting ceremony at the school. Those kids believed when kids believe it's easy for adults to believe tire eighty days leave her escape fire self. That is the will of a kid to survive. It's the unthinkable i mean. It's just you guys know understand the fake news that's out there and you guys get bombarded with. It and we just had it prior to this. I mean i wasn't done with the first tip about she's not in walworth county and she's in douglas county. How can that be. I mean my head spins as you guys have seen for the last eight days as it's amazing the will of that thirteen year old girl to survive and escape in that comes from the hope and the prayers ars and this community and what everybody did. I think what's very interesting is she was recognized immediately by both the female walking the dog doug and the people at the house because of the work that we did the public did in the media. Did i think that can't go on on talked about here. I mean that was remarkable. That people recognized her. Just what we wanted to happen happened. The sheriff makes a great point here. Do you want to guess what kristen kosinski had for her facebook profile pic the moment jimmy class walked in her door. It was the thirteen year olds photo with a ribbon that said fine jamie. We'll we'll be back at four o'clock. Thank you guys all again. Appreciative applause as the sheriff walks away is something. I don't think i've ever we're seen before at a law. Enforcement press conference julius in barron wisconsin. I care eleven's julie nelson anchors. Our coverage of jamie's escape live and baron right outside the law enforcement. I want center. I don't ever remember story quite like this. I know i speak for a lot of people here in this barren community who are feeling an overwhelming sense of relief today but it is also a flood of emotions. That's hard to grapple with because everyone as the details come out realize how very much a thirteen year old girl has been through through in the last three months even the sheriff this morning when he first spoke to all of us had emotion in his voice and his voice was cracking. I talked to a woman here who lives in the community who has a fifteen year old daughter who said that when she told her daughter last night the jamie had been found alive. Her daughter collapsed to her knees and started crying. I mean this is a story that has had a very big impact here in barron county but not just here really all across the state and all across the country but certainly no one has felt the emotion and the pain of this story and the joy of the news more than jamie's godmother who is also so her aunt. I spoke with her moments before she left to go. Reunite with jamie and i can tell you she was overcome with emotion. She did not sleep at all last night night as you can imagine and she shared with me her fears she shared with me her <hes> immediate plans for the future and also so her sense of the strength of jamie must have gained in these last few months to have been able to escape her captor. It's gonna okay great and seeing all that she's okay and give her the eggnog. We talked earlier that it's so such a blessing that she's alive but there's such a long road ahead. How do you use a long road ahead. Yes but we will get through it. We have we have a large family honey. We have gained lots of family through all this so many loved ones out there for jamie happy tears from hall over the over the nation so we we'll get together for my brother and my sister and my brother in law and because we haven't had time to do that took a while they close ups along get through that is that is such an excellent point. She has had degree parents by herself if she's even been able to i know it's all i've been thinking about things this morning. Go through my mind. What else is going through your mind. Just you know what that poor girl spend through twenty eight days and we don't know lady gazes a long day today's for somebody to be gone soon taste and and the assumption she's going to live with you right. Yes ever were her godparents. My husband and i end i. I actually watched her twelve years the way i used to do daycare oh so you guys are so close and she'll it'll feel like home. It's been home secondhand. We'll <hes>. Do you have a room. You had three other children. Join it right now and we're gonna go get her in your bed and we're going to make it as company and girly as we can do just imagine her finally in homework and snugly blanket your safety. I'm just so happy for you really really happy for you. It just let her know. Please just how much we've all been thinking about her and praying for her and wind will and is there's anything you want to say the community. What would that be. Thank thank you for not giving up on jamie and for having home like all of us family and tom hanks for their support and sharing on social media india sharon pollster. I can't think the media enough for keeping her face alive on the news and f._b._i. D._c._i. law enforcement. I mean every that she had to have to think about it. It had been i mean that little girl must've grew very strong because you don't know jamie amy like we do in a very shy girl and that's what i think her to so much inside knowing that if she can be strong enough to strong enough to run away when and she can bless her heart she did. She's a straw free little girl. Jamie's bravery becomes even more evident went as details of the crime begin to trickle out sheriff fitzgerald announces. The suspect's name jake paterson a twenty one year old with absolutely no criminal record who apparently lived alone in the cabin. Jake paterson was not on law enforcement's radar at this time nothing in this case shows suspect knew anyone at the cost home or at any time had contact with anyone in the family the suspect had specific intentions and to kidnap jamie and went to great lengths to prepare to take her with regard to the suspect taking efforts to minimize his forensic footprint at the crime scene gene they include things like not leaving trace evidence by changing his physical appearance like shaving his head not to leave hair behind and we have recovered a gun consistent with what was used at the scene of the initial homicide. The gun used at the scene on the night of the incident. Accident was a shotgun. The shotgun was also used to shoot opened. The door. Ethics laws home on the night of the incident. The sheriff tells us patterson and was interrogated by investigators but he doesn't share much of what they learn. Patterson is jailed on suspicion of first degree murder for the death of gym and denise clause in charge of kidnapping for taking jamie i mean jamie is the hero in this case. There's no question about it and she's the one that helped us. Break the case. That's something sheriff gerald repeats when he sits down with cantered all for a one on one interview. She took that first step taking. That step was just unbelievable when she took that step. I think that's the lesson we can teach your kids. I think that's a lesson that we can teach when we say. How do we talk about this with their kids. Never give up hope. Keep your prayers alive. You know you get into a situation. You never give up. There'll be an opportunity for you to take advantage of <hes> you know oh and we think she took advantage of an opportunity when the suspect wasn't there any closer to understanding or revealing how these two came into contact or how he came to target jamie still no evidence to produce that i've been told about that shows any connection to any of the cost family members <hes> anytime it doesn't show that he's ever been to the house doesn't show that he ever had contact through any digital footprint. <hes> still nothing to show that this wasn't that was this was just a random. Well planned attack in the classroom. I don't know what the connection is but there's been no contact contact like everybody thinks like this you know texting or some gaming or something like that all of that so far has been ruled out. I guess we are sitting in front of the jail here and it is kind of we talked about the. I talked about that with my colleagues. It's kind of surreal thinking. He's it's not that far away less than a football field away from us. What do you think about that. I i don't think about that. I think about her at home when we got to bring her back to burn county last night and he's in jail where he's supposed to be. Have you seen jamie yet. I have not i can't wait to see her but family's more important jamie's again jamie's pace all i was told the she woke up after goodness sleeping a safe home it has smile interface and yeah that's awesome was their hardest day or hardest moments through these last three months you no. I think every day was hard struggled. It was frustrating. I think not finding her. You know i think once you go through some of that evidence and you guys would come and interview me and say eh hey. What did you find today. We've been thirty days. We've been sixty days and i can say we don't have anything new. We don't have any good tips <hes> even though we were getting tips hips and the public enough for all the tips that gave us but to tell the public that we didn't have any new tips but we've been working on it for six or three months or two wants. <hes> was very frustrating so i think as those days got longer in the frustration grew <hes> but then we went to events like the tree lighting and that the whole and those kids coming up and say and just fine my classmate okay. You just sparked me. I'm ready to go. Let's do this and we did that and <hes> this community did help. Ah did hold us up at times when we need. It and it's been pretty awesome. You have a couple of kids of your own thirteen year old. I do have a thirteen and a sixteen year old. How hard is that and how did you deal with bad couple extra hogs even though they're thirteen and sixteen of but it's <hes> it's been hard but a little different hip track of him i always you did before in my job of seeing the worst and people <hes> but i saw like good here and i saw a lot of community support and i saw a lot of people that supported my family family when they needed it when i wasn't there so <hes> yeah would you tell them thank you <hes> and they only wanted excuse me they only wanted one thing and that's frustrating jamie home. <hes> and people will do anything for us. <hes> as long as we brought jamie will be you're saying. Can you believe the community is going to be okay. Yeah i think after this community and what they've done for us but they've done for jamie what they've done for the family he has been tremendous. <hes> and i know we can do anything now so taking on you know this healing process and helping jamie. Amy is going to be simple frost because i've seen what we can do together. Well it'll be hard. Jamie and it'll be hard on us. Josh horowitz from dateline. You need your true crime fix on the go they line episodes are now available label in podcasts. You can listen in the car or on the beach or wherever the summer takes you mysteries with a twist from dateline subscribe right now so don't miss an episode. I know we can do it together. Jamie is reunited with her family. The community is elated. Diane tremblay the baron area school superintendent speaks on behalf of teachers and students what a glorious day will certainly never be forgotten. There's so much love love hugs in our district today. Jimmy has been found safe and has been reunited with her family and friends. There is truly nothing in the world better than that it has been eighty days of hope for her safe return eighty eight days of prayers for jamie her family friends are students staff community eighty eight days of all the to the faith that authorities would never give up and they certainly did not finally eighty days of our close knit community with the same goal in mind and that was to bring jamie home and back into our arms most importantly we wanted to think jamie for being so courageous and for being an opportunity to find her way back to us what what an extraordinarily young lady jamie we missed. You and we are so grateful. You are home thank you and the community munity changes the look of baron all those signs in front of main street businesses that for the last eight eight days said things like prayers for jamie fine jamie and bring jamie home now say welcome home jaime. Thank you for bringing her home and thank you god despite lots of unknowns they always is hoped and prayed and believed she would come home. Alive buoyed hooper joins us now live from the tree of hope in barron wisconsin with details on this amazing community community void or you're right about that julie. This tree shined brightly during the holiday. Season is a symbol of hope and tonight it remains lit but it also now is a sign of gratitude. It was almost like walking on air at least for today. Whatever il barone has been cured. It's almost like a miracle. We prayed for her every week. No one ever gave up hope never gave up hope through weeks of vigils public displays and green ribbons on the masthead of the local paper. Our society is in desperate native hope but floyd lundy pastor at barons first respect. This church has seen it. Weekly visits the inmates at the county jail. We take a time for prayer and many of them ask. Can we pray for jamie. My wife almost broke down and cry. She was so happy. Tom jackson's big winter boots felt two pounds lighter on his afternoon. Walk disobeys hope became barons. Prescriptions just got feeling a lot of people had that she was still within reach of us tonight. They know jamie was is in reach of a hometown that kept on for her a light. It's the outcome that we prayed for an hope for well definitely euphoria here in barren erin but but people would stop and they say we must also remember that a loss was suffered. Jamie's parents were murdered and that jamie went through unthinkable trauma and we heard time and time again from people that we talked to today that they will be here for jamie in the months and years to come bear and insist that it will be. We're here for jamie going forward. That's amazing when a fabulous story on a community that really has come together and you could just tell when you talk to people today. There were tears in their eyes same so many prayers went up and answered. Thank you void. We wrap up the weekend of elation. When i meet jamie's grandpa denise father robert nyberg he lives in cornell a small town about an hour from baron where he raised his son and four daughters robert robert lost his wife rebecca after a battle with cancer three years ago i chat with robert for about a half hour at his dining room table and after we get to know each other he says my photographer david can bring in the camera. He'll do an interview tonight. Jamie's grandfather spoke to our lou goose for the very first time about the emotion of finally having her back back home. Lou reda robert says his granddaughter jamie class was pretty quiet at their family homecoming party but she's doing well considering what happened to her. Uh robert proudly displays green oversized wooden on his front steps for eight days. The stickers acres on it said bring jamie home but this weekend robert ripped off bring now. It says jamie home. I wasn't giving up. Nobody was given up. Just about every available. Counter space in the dining room and living room is filled with pictures of jamie. Thank i got almost fifteen patru sutton on your little up and his home is filled with ceramic angels favorites of his late daughter. Denise is going to be angels out in the cemetery already. The day couple of that was kind of her. Nickname was the guardian angel how she she looked in the sky and he seemed that age what is no i don't get have called for. We'd be out cemetery or something no. She was a believer rene angels. He's just too bad. Jim in eastern still here yeah support. Go take me a while to heal heal from that probably never will because i'll wake up in the morning. I think about her said jamie safe no anyway you can't believe last night i went to church people that come up to me and they all they were also happy. Happy birthday told me it's the first time we seen a smile on my face in three months. That's what they told me last night. I know i got a smile bought again. Oh so how'd you get the news all of a sudden raider in my chair over there and my daughter jennifer call and she couldn't hardly talk his crying for happiness and stuff. She didn't talk very long and she said she couldn't get home other daughter because she didn't even answer the phone right right away on account of that knows in the afternoon and put them into depression. Well what we're jennifer's first words when you answer the phone jamie's we've you got damian home back home the phone jamie house call. You're waiting for him for eight days and so you got to see her when she brought her back from superior. I was waiting waiting for so she had to be home. What happened when she walks in the door of the first one to give her a hug. Everybody give her a hug and that afternoon of really a sweet deal. 'cause my son was there and they had a room upstairs for jamie nothing in there by time jimmy come home. It was completely redid. We did a nice as you could believe so just in the matter one day they transformed it afternoon bought five. That's pretty special smarter special bed for this beautiful that room and you have a special relationship did to always think i'm here a lot to simulate same meal with just a wonderful miracle and she got away from him. It might have been looking for it and hard telling what could happen. We do know now that it's this guy didn't know jamie all on ever more ed. She did not know him now. Does that make sense of deal offensive killing. I know it's the ultimate selfish act. I hope this guy. You're never see daylight. I mean he dated murder. It's about as premeditated as it can be he. He went there to do with him. I just hope don't has a dramatize. Jamie too much shut up. I'm sure there's gonna be highs and lows you know. Do you plan on going to court and seen this guy face to face or or anything i might. I don't know if i should but i might don't have no desire to see him. We appreciate you talking with us. In the twenty. One year old is scheduled to make his first court appearance right here tomorrow. At three thirty pm bring that to you as it happens and the criminal complaint is expected to be filed in the morning with murder and kidnapping charges guys back to you live in barrington. Thank you next time on eighty eight days. Elation turns to dismay for the first time we're seeing and hearing from the man now charged with kidnapping thirteen year old jamie kloss and killing her parents as we begin to learn the details of the crime. He remained in hiding after abducting abducting jamie for eight hundred eight days before he was apprehended who is jake patterson. Who is this man accused of the brutal murders and kidnapping there were a lot of unanswered unanswered questions about jake patterson's background what was it and what was his life path that led him to this point and the community braces for what's next. Do you believe that this is going on at this point. We have reason to believe it will go to trial yes. This is eighty eight days. The jamie class story a care eleven original podcast in association with volt studios checkout eighty-eight days podcast dot com for more information on the jamie clause case eight hundred eight days is written and produced by me lou reduce in l._a. Khoder original music is by dave mailing in emily havoc in original artwork by david malman special thanks to care levin management and staff for their contributions tribune's the people of barron wisconsin and the close family.

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AP Headline News Jan 11 2019 05:00 (EST)

AP Radio News

04:00 min | 1 year ago

AP Headline News Jan 11 2019 05:00 (EST)

"The. A radio news. I'm Rita fall. Lay? Breaking news, a US military officials says the process of withdrawing troops from Syria has begun. The US led military coalition is not providing any details yet. The US has about two thousand troops in Syria today is Friday payday but not for eight hundred thousand federal government workers caught in the crossfire as President Trump and congress battle over a border wall. The president's threatening to declare a national emergency and unilaterally move to build the wall. If there's no agreement but was not quite sold on doing it yesterday one hundred percent, but I don't want to say a hundred and later, probably I will I would almost say definitely GOP Senator Lindsey Graham says the president might as well act since congress cannot seem to or you're standing you're looking at each other. But bypassing hungry would be challenged legally and house speaker Nancy Pelosi says other Republic. Gins would object to executive overreach. I think he's going to have to answer to his own party. Saga megani? Washington. President Trump says he's now worried about his former personal lawyer Michael Cohen testifying before house committee next month. Cohen arranged hush money payments intended to keep allegations of sexual affairs out of the news during the presidential campaign. A Wisconsin girl missing for three months has been found alive or teen year old Jimmy clause has been missing since October fifteenth day her parents were both shot the death at their home outside the small town of Barron. Wisconsin the Barron county sheriff's department posting on its Facebook page that she was found alive. Thursday in Douglas county, some seventy miles to the north and Barron sheriff Chris FitzGerald says Douglas county, deputies apprehended a suspect shortly after Jamie was found I'm Tim Maguire China has just broadcast pictures taken by its Rover and Lander on the far side of the moon. This is AP radio news. Fiat Chrysler is the. Latest automaker to announce a big air bag recall more than one point six million, jeeps, dodgers and Chryslers as well as ram and dodge pick-ups are covered by this recall. It's the same story as previous recalls to Cada front passenger airbag inflators can explode with too much force. If it happens shrapnel explodes into drivers and passengers at least twenty three people have died from the problem worldwide. The most dangerous inflators are in the areas of the south along the Gulf of Mexico that have high humidity. Ed Donahue, Washington a school board in the Virginia. Suburbs of Washington DC is renaming a school that had been named for confederate. General Robert E Lee Washington Lee high school will now become Washington. Liberty high school last month. A judge tossed a lawsuit that tried to block the school board from taking Robert Lee's name off of the high school. I'm Rita Foley. AP radio news. Hi, it's Jamie. Progressive's. Employee of the month two months in a row. Leave a message at the hi, Jamie. It's me, Jamie. I just had a new idea for our song about the name your price tool. So when it's like, tell us what you want to pay, hey trombone goes, Wah, and you say, we'll help you find Carbajal fit your budget. Then we just all do finger snaps while choir goes, savings coming at ya. Savings coming at ya. Yes. No. Maybe. Anyway, see you practice tonight. I got new lyrics for the rap break. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Pricing coverage match limited by state law. You with the rhinestone dot collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of great to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My human realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments is three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance has the home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgages, the division of Wells Fargo Bank. Equal housing lender. MLS three nine nine hundred one.

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Stan and Jan Berenstain

Bedtime History: Inspirational Stories for Kids

06:15 min | 8 months ago

Stan and Jan Berenstain

"Welcome to bedtime history a quick shoutout to our fans and new Patriot supporters. Jeremy and his son Noah. Thanks so much for your generous. Chris Donation Jeremy and I were childhood friends. He's a pilot now in built his own airplane which is pretty cool. Thanks for listening guys becoming coming. A supporter on patriotic. Goes a long way to help cover some of the costs of operating and keeps the podcast going strong. You can learn more about it at Patriotair DOT COM Tom. That's our Yohan Dot com forward slash bedtime history. Thanks again to those who have made donations so far. Three little bears one with the light. One with the stick and one with the rope. A spooky old tree three do they dare go into that spooky old tree. Yes they dare. These are the opening lines from one of my favorite children's books of all time called the spooky old tree by Stan and Jan Bernstein. You may have heard of the Bernstein bear books but growing up. They were some of my all time favorites. I have many good memories in my mom reading these books to me and my siblings when we were little tonight. We're going to learn about Stan and Jan the authors and illustrators of these fun and Imaginative Adjective Stories Janice this grant and Stanley Barron stain. Were born in the same year in the same town nineteen twenty-three and Philadelphia Pennsylvania. They they were born during the Great Depression which was a very hard time for most people. Living in the United States there was very little work and most families were very poor four Shannon. Stan didn't know each other when they were little but they had similar interests and both wanted to go to art school at age eighteen. They ended up going going to the same school and many other on the first day in a drawing class taught by a teacher named Miss Sweetie Stan and Jan instantly liked each each other and spent the rest of the year working on art projects together when World War Two started Stan was able to use. This is art skills and became an illustrator in the army and illustrator is someone who draws or does illustrate which is another word for drawings however rejane joined a large group of American women who helped build things for the war effort. She was a riveter. Riveter is someone who uses bolts to attach pieces of metal together during the war. Stan and Jan were separated but when the war was over they met again and were married in nineteen forty six. At first Stan and Jan where teachers but they really wanted to be cartoonists and soon found jobs illustrating for different magazines and newspapers. Most most of their illustrations were funny in nineteen sixty. They wrote their first children's book together. They had lots of ideas about who the subject of their books should be but but eventually they decided on bears because they could stand on two feet much like humans they call them. The Baron stained bear family after their own last name. By this time they also had their first Leo and wanted to include some of the funny moments and ups and downs of raising a child in the books. Papa bear were overalls overalls and a plaid shirt in Mama. Bear were a Polka dot dress and like their own child. They had one lively bear cub. Their first stories ended up being read by Dr seuss. One of the most famous children's story authors of all time. You can find our other episode about Dr Seuss. Dr Seuss love the stories and gave Stan and Jan lots of ideas about how to improve them. Their first big story was called the big honey hunt after through their bare story. They thought that switch to a different animal like a penguin but the first book did so well. They decided to keep writing more. Dr Seuss made sure the name. The Barron stained bears was added to the top of every book and shortened their names from Stanley and Janice to Stan and Jan without even asking them over the next several years standing Jan work from their home in Philadelphia and created hundreds more Bernstein bear books included topics like going to the dentist making new new friends. Bullying messy rooms honesty and healthy eating together. The Bear family lived in a big tree house down a sunny dirt road deep in bear country leader sister joined the family and finally honeybear. The baby bear came together. They worked and played and learned lessons about life. And that was the point of so many of these stories by standing Jan to teach the listener about family life and making good decisions also called moral stories over the years the Barron stains wrote over three hundred books and sold over two hundred and sixty million copies of their books. Many have also been made into TV movies and television series a few computer games. I mentioned the spooky old tree. You'll have to check that one out. A few other favorites were bears in the night. Right and the bears vacation. If you're interested your library should have them or you can find them online. Stand Jan have now since passed away but their sons is Leo and Michael have carried on the business. Lee is also an artist and has illustrated many of the new baron stained bear books with his mother Jan before she passed away. Do you like to write or draw tight. Think of what kind of animal you could pretend act like a human and tomorrow find a pencil and paper and make your own story. Would you use bears. Here's the thing of a new animal. You could use like talking monkeys cats or even walruses. It's fun to let your imagination run wild and just like Stan and Jan Bernstein. You can come up with wild creative ideas. Teach a good message and share them with your friends and family

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Professor Steven Rogelberg: The Surprising Science of Meetings

Leadership and Loyalty

1:00:29 hr | Last month

Professor Steven Rogelberg: The Surprising Science of Meetings

"Hi I'm Steven Rosenberg. I'm the author of the book surprising science of meetings and today on the show. We're GONNA talk about how to make meetings truly work leveraging evidence and science. Congratulations you're tuned into Dov, barons leadership and loyalty show the number one podcast for fortune five, hundred executives, and those who are dedicated to creating a quantum leap in leadership your host. Dov Baron. He's an executive mentor to leaders like you a contributing writer for Entrepreneur magazine. CEO. World and he's been featured on CNN fox CBS and many other notable sites doll. Barron is an international business speaker who is named by INC magazine as one of the top one, hundred leadership speakers to hire now over to Dov, Baron. Welcome. Dear, friends, fans, and fellow Afficionados, leash excellence. Thank you for joining us on this episode of leadership tips for executives spot of the. Interview series. Let me ask you what are you need to do to up level. You'll leadership while many leaders and managers regon ineffective unproductive worn meetings as just unavoidable part of the businesses to. What's more on the world of remote meetings? Those meetings not only likely to be boring, but they're also incredibly distracted. So how would you up little you'll leadership if you understood and use the surprising science of meetings or stay tuned because that's exactly what we're about to find out. I'm host Dow Barron I. Am the Dragon is sent him here to assist you tell the one thing you'll business that changes everything by transforming meaning into action, divide more about me at Dav Barron Dot, com. That's D., O. V. B., A., R., O. N., DOT COM. This episode of leadership and loyalty is brought to you in part by mad cast imagine having your own industry magazine. What would. Would that do for your authority? Whether you're a coach content expert or emerging brand? It's Hud stand out from the crowd. So if there was a proven way to increase both your perceived authority and professional status in the eyes of your market and do it all at once would not be amazing. Well, this is your way to go from being invisible to getting a meeting with absolutely anyone. Can. Simply go to MED CASS DOT. com. That's M. A.. G. C. A. S., T. DOT CO CEO where first time publishers create thriving magazine businesses. Remember you can find. You can chat about this episode or any past episodes on our leaders are on the leadership loyalty broadcast on the facebook Lyndon groups by the same name leadership and loyalty. If you're listening to new viewers. Thank you for joining us, Struck yourself in. We're about to go full Monty, and as always you can find those on apple podcasts. What if I heart radio or wherever you tune into podcast, if you're a regular listener, thank you for making us the number one podcast globally from fortune five, hundred for the potential. Of two point, five to four, million listeners for every single show over time where on it in. Grateful to be cited by INC DOT COM, the number one podcast to make you a better leader. We always appreciate you letting others know about show in charity show. Everybody you know. All right. Let's strip it down and die right in. Most leaders does for that matter most individuals in the workforce? No. The speaking's meetings, kind of suck. But what if they don't have to? Well, that's what we're about to find out. You see my guest on this episode is professor, Stephen Rogle bug. Now, he is not only challenging the assumption that meetings are a of time, but he has the science and the practical strategies backing it up how to stop wasting time and and our energy actually and facilitate far better meetings. His latest book was recognized by the. Washington Post as the number one leadership book to watch in Twenty Nineteen business insider. made it. The top fourteen books everyone should be reading in two, thousand, nineteen, an essay, Jayaram said it was in the top ten favourite new books he and the book world. So featured on CBS, this morning freakonomics and BBC will just to name a few. He said he's rather than canceling meetings. We must improve them by being meaning behind being mindful and skillful about that design and delivery. We're about to find out exactly how to do that. Because as I said I'll guest on this episode is Professor Rogue, and as I said he is the also of The surprising science of meetings, how you can lead your team to peak performance? And everyone else. please. Getting the chemicals flooding in your Brian. I'm really glad to have you on. Our show in this world of influences or whatever the heck you'll title is. A by asking who is someone? Who has had a massive influence on your leadership? Someone that we maybe not won't even know somebody. You know maybe not in the in the in the eye of the world who's really influence you in the way you see leadership. Who might that be? Well, I think it's actually my best friend's father. He was a CEO of Um I think compuserve for awhile. He's retired now. But what I took from him was. His masterful listening skills, he just had an ability to sit down with someone and just figure out what was on their mind. Really try to understand it, and once you truly can understand their perspective your ability to be a better leader. Is Amplified, and so I really appreciated his. His discipline and not trying to insert himself too quickly. But instead allow for kind of the natural rhythms to emerge and to not make assumptions that would take the you know the leadership path in one way. So. How did he? How did he teach you that I mean if it was your Best Mate's Dad? Shows tell us how he did that. Sure. So it's really observing him. And you know I got to see him with different groups of people. But probably, the most transformative one was actually when he sat down and had a conversation with my father who was also a business executive and my father is was. Very, stubborn once he has an opinion in his head, it was his way or the highway and just seeing how he interacted with my father and how he was able to get my father to. See a different perspective, but not be offended by that different perspective. was. Just transformative. Not that would be a great example, right I. Mean, you know it's one thing to sort of observe this guy doing it with whoever but to do it with your dad, who's got a fixed mindset. Ningbo wow. Dad opened up. Whenever, this guy did. That's exactly right because I knew how hard it was to move him. Trying to move him and it was not successful. So just to see like this community different communication rhythm and there's different communication approach and this more it was it was incredible. Well. So did you did you? You. Right. Now, committed to following that model I did It's been a process. Of course you know for me. I really tried to have an open mind towards continuous development and I look for opportunities to gather feedback and grow from it. I. Also see every single person in every single leader I interact with is a source of wisdom, and it's either a source of wisdom what I want to do or what I don't want to do, and so I'm just very dialed in and trying to learn as many of these leadership lessons in the small details in the small communications and from that. I've just been on a path of trying to be more and more of a steward leader. You know someone who really is in touch with. Developing, their subordinates trying gig to elevate the unit. Recognize that people can be in different places, but but very much trying to enact this stewardship mindset. Really Cool. Now, one of the things I spoke about in the in the INTRO was POW. Well, this book has done. An A book about matings. Well, you know I'm not expecting that to do particularly. Well, personally just like that's. Why do you think that people have really connected with it in in such a profound way? I mean. Just said how? The. Most the best book and you gotta read it like thing i. know it was crazy. Yeah I mean I know how much people hate meetings and there's actually lots of books on meetings out there. But this was the first book that was really about the signs of meetings and laying out an evidence base path to move forward. So I'm going to assume it was that approach that seems really neck with folks and it was very unexpected. Really. I had no clue about like the Washington Post ranking. Author, release a book, and then you start tracking your sales numbers on Amazon and next thing I know I see the book really really selling. So of course, the next thing you do as a new author as you Google yourself to try to figure out what's going on and that's why I discovered you know these early rankings and it just kept building and and a super exciting for me because. I'm working on another book. This was it this represented twenty years of science on meetings. and. My motivation here was to get the evidence out so that people can make informed decisions to really recapture the potential of meetings and to help lessen the incredible frustration that people have. You know meetings are. A finite thing, you know a size of China's supposed to finish at ten thirty or whatever it is. But what goes on in the meetings is not so much. Usually tangible. It's quote soft skills and and the fact that you've gone into this. From a science point of view, I, think as. Well, particularly fascinating So. Talk to us about the science part of it because like you said, that's what's really connected with people. First of all, how did you look? How did you come to the science of IT JER? So I'm an organizational psychologist and as an organizational psychologist, I'm very interested in studying how work effects, people, and teams and organizations. And, my personal target, the things I like to study are things that people spend a lot of time in and yet feel very frustrated by and meetings fit that bill. Perfectly. So I very much wanted to connect with meetings to try to figure out a path forward. Now to study meetings, there's lots of different ways. So if you go through our research, you know there's approaches where we videotape meetings and we code what goes on in meetings before during, and after we do surveys immediately following a meeting, we'll have people keep diaries at the end of the day where they discussed the meetings they had and how they're currently feeling We have people evaluate the meeting culture in their organization. We have situations where everyone in the same meeting is surveyed immediately thereafter, just to see if everyone's experiencing the same thing. and. They're not everyone has very different perceptions rush though between surveys observations, we've even done experiments where we have, we bring folks in for a meeting, and then we have someone show up late and we look at the effects of lateness So we studied so many different phenomenon from multitasking to leadership effectiveness to meeting satisfaction all from these varied perspectives. So, let's what I was saying. So there's a lot of factors in there. It's not a single thing. So there's a lot of factors in the. And the title of the book is surprising science. So what as I said earlier aside, from the fact that the surprises, there is a science, right? What is the most surprising science shoved? Right. So first of all, I have to thank Adam Grant. He was Kinda my mentor through this process and titled The book, The Science of meetings, and he looked at what Stephen. Let's add surprising in there I'm like that's brilliant. What a great idea that is because a I think you're totally right. The first thing that's surprising that a science exists now and you know then there's a whole host of things in there that I think are surprising to people. So for example, agendas, if you open almost any needing book, go to any meeting training, they always say have an agenda. But the research on agendas is our from supportive. It's actually not predictive of meeting effectiveness, and if you think about it and step back for a minute, it's really not a surprise, right? What matters most is what's on the agenda and did you invite the right people to that are relevant to those agenda items, and then what's even more important and I know this connects with you is how you? You facilitate that agenda, right? Do you involve people and engage people and create a safe environment? But interestingly, those are the hard things So people think that they are good meeting leader because they have an agenda I, see, right. So it's a false sense of security. So in my book, the chapters called agendas are a hollow crutch because they're not going to get you where you WANNA go. But would you like to hear a quick innovation in agendas? Absolutely. All right. So as you know, agendas are typically structured as a set of topics to be addressed. Yes. What I propose is creating your gender as a set of questions to be answered. This is a fundamentally, very different process, right by trying to create questions. You're really thinking carefully about what you truly want to see happen as a result of the meeting. You have a better sense of who to invite that to the meeting because the relevant to the questions you know when to end the meeting. Because the questions have been answered, and if you just can't think of any questions. It likely means you don't need a meeting. So dots I mean, I think that's that's profoundly simple but powerful. So I, just WANNA, make sure it gets embedded. So, give us an example of something that might normally be on an agenda. I'm what you would change it to so that those people could say, okay, well, we only put this is on the agenda will change it to that net, and that will get guidance on who should be in the meeting. So an example could be So you can have a agenda item called budget cuts. Yes. or You could have an agenda item such as how can we reduce our budget by twenty, five percent in q three. Okay right is a much more tangible challenge. Malvo's have, and it just creates a different frame of mind, right? You know what you need to do, and then that creates that collective focus. Around the interesting thing about what you've just done in the simplicity of it now from a psychology point of view. Is You've shifted the person out of. Threat into solution. So. Budget cuts his like Oh Christ where I'm. GonNa. Get. Canned. Versus, how can we? We is inclusive means all I'm probably getting can but. I'm part of the solution. Not Part of the problem. So you create a level of psychological safety. I love that. Yeah. I think you're spot on. That's profound. For because I think that. Aside. From. Boring which often they are. I think that psychological safety is often an issue and and and I know you said that earlier you know, how do we make the the meeting, a psychologically safe place and this moving to questions? Which is you know? Central Toby than I do, which is about curiosity. So I lo- I, love that. So now let's Let's sort of take that a little bit further and say, okay. So. Where do you think the? Is that agenda thing that you said is that the blind spot for leaders or is it or is it something more right? So, let me back up a little and talk about that blind spot. You know what's interesting as you survey people at the end of a meeting. And you ask them how effective was that meeting? Is One person who leaves that meeting saying that was a good use of time. You WanNa guess who that is. I think I. Know. Yes. The meeting leader right. Then meeting leader has this inflated sense of what's going on and it's really not a big surprise there in control. Everyone else has given up their power and their agency, but the leader is talking a lot there in control. They could ended at any point, so they feel good about it. Well, that that's where that blindspot comes in. Right? Because we know there's a misalignment, but we know there's so much frustration out there. So that frustration has to be embedded in some truth, and that frustration is global I mean we see these data, no matter what country we go to. So, there's this blind spot and what do blind spots do well, blind spots prevent you from really self reflecting. Right they prevent you from really empathizing and saying, oh. Wow. Maybe from this person's experience meeting wasn't so good at it affects your appetite for learning. For trying new things and instead, you just keep doing the same things over and over again and. So. That's kind of how that blindspot manifest and so it could be that you. Own I'm sure you've seen this where you know people recycle agendas, right? So. Does that where if you look at the agenda week to week, it's like the same thing and over again. So that would be a way it manifests. You don't manifest by the every single meeting looking and feeling the exact same way, which is crazy. Right? Because people need some diversity in their experience. It's it's manifest in how it's facilitated right where it's not really facilitated on. Instead, the leader keeps the focus on themselves. But I think the a lot of leaders justify that by saying. You know, we have structure it structure. Is. It structure. Was it confinement? Structure is something you lean on the glass. You grow like I, put structure around tomatoes, plants that allows them to go and get more fruit. Whereas confinement would be to put them in a box and it wouldn't grow at. All right. So. Yes Allergy Oscar. You think about it are the research shows that there's over one hundred million meetings day around the globe. `Wow. Terrifying. I look at it is that there's one hundred million opportunities for inclusion. Yes. Bright, and when you have a confinement approach when it's so overly structured, then you're missing the opportunity to build inclusion. We know from the research that when leaders can create genuine inclusion. Creativity. Innovation engagement all these great things, Yup occur. Across. So so now we you know we have to go to this because it's twenty twenty S. we record this where they were in the second of the beginning of the second half of that year. The first half of twenty twenty will the will turn on Zia with covid the pandemic. and. As, I've talked about in some of the other shows. The idea that you. Can't turn the ship on a dime while many companies discovered. Yeah, we can. We have to. We gotta go remote and they went remote within two weeks. But the problem with going remote is we can no longer walk around the office. We can't have the casual meetings and now we're having to do remote meetings. So told was about how that's changed and. Has Does the approach change. Yeah. So. anecdotally. And? It looks like meeting activity is actually up right? Because people aren't having the casual encounters like. My research suggests that approximately fifty percent of time in meetings is engaging well, Ron and well led. That's a pretty sad state, but it gets worse if you study remote. Those percentages decrease even further remote. Have all the typical problems of regular meetings. But then they're plagued with some extra special ones, right. You have all these communication rhythm and flow challenges, and then you have something called social loafing, and this is the tendency to reduce our effort and motivation when working in a group and it's a kintu like hiding in a crowd and we do this more when we feel anonymous and when we're in a virtual meeting, we tend to feel more anonymous, and this helps explain why multitasking is so high in remote meetings. So they are definitely A. Extra challenging. But. There's absolutely no evidence based path forward that can make these things work. Okay so Let's go to that for a minute because. You. Know I'm seeing I'm talking about it with people about zoom fatigue, right? It's not actually Zuma could be any platform, but zoom fatigue is the kind of the new phrase. How do we? How do we get people to get past that and moreover? We can split into two if you like, but I, really WANNA look at. You know what? In a meeting? You know we talked about just a few minutes ago. There's an a need for people in that room to feel like they that the voice will be hud and that they have trust with the leading the meeting and that they will, you know they, they will be trusted and they can trust. I really want to confront that in the context of a of a remote majoring. Okay. So. First of all. Know Meeting. Fatigue. Went on in face to face meetings like we a strong connection. This zoom fatigue. Yes. Takes on new levels partly because the technology has challenges, but also people don't get their butts out of the chair throughout the day. Right. You can have meeting to meeting and you're never getting up and that's really fatiguing. So things tell leaders, for example, is have a standing meeting. Literally get people out of their chairs and have the data on standing meetings quite. Encouraging. And the yield, very high quality decisions, but in half as much time. So. So let's attack how to make these remote meetings better and I'll I'll throw out some. Some techniques conversing foremost is you can't over invite. Remote meeting quality plummets as size increases and you know there's no reason to over-invite because remote meetings can readily be recorded, and so for those who don't attend live, they can get the recording. So you'll let non essential members off the hook and just share the recording. That's really key. Number two is setting meeting times properly. People have shorter, attention spans right now. So avoid defaulting to these one hour meetings especially because of something called Parkinson's law in Parkinson's law is this idea that work expands to fill whatever time is allotted to it. So if we schedule a one hour meeting, guess what it takes one hour. Yes. We can use this to our advantage right beacon schedule a meeting for twenty minutes for thirty five minutes like we have that power week, make that choice and people will welcome it, and anytime you have a meaning that's thirty five minutes instead of an hour. You're giving people this the greatest gift in the world. The gift of time. And then we already talked about sharpening the agenda You know people just don't have the patients in remote meetings So this framing is questions is a way to really keep that meeting having a good cadence. and. Another really key thing I'll take a breath and then you know make sure that Be, addressed. All your great questions is active facilitation Facilitation matters and all meetings, but this is so key in remote meetings. Meeting leaders must embrace their role as a facilitator draw in burchell attendees because we know that they kind of blend into the background. So Sasha please share your thoughts right to keep them engaged. You might even consider keeping a tally to be sure all are contributing in the meeting and avoid generically asking any comments instead again, call on people, and if someone is kind of just rambling or not focused in the meeting, it's your job to kindly interrupt reiten as a meeting leader. Everyone is looking to you. To provide some sense of. In structure and you have to own, that is your job and really your job alone. You, you brought up a lot of stuff that impact unpacked. So first of all I, think a lot of people feel rude by interrupting somebody. WHO's rambling? In they as a leader will feel like, maybe it's just me and. I think, how is there a guideline for? For for that time guideline like. So one of the things I'll say is okay if if you could summarize this in twenty seconds, what would you say is that a good way to do it like that? So you know first of all, what's what's fascinating to me is it's so rare that a leader ever sets expectation with their team members. Right. How can we possibly expect our virtual meetings to be good if we never talk about what makes for a good one, right. Right. So if you have your team, why not have a conversation about it, it creates a sense of shared understanding and what will emerge in that in that conversation in someone's going to say, you know what? Let's keep our contributions short. Right. Let's make sure that we really listened to one another and by having those expectations out now, the leader has permission eight to enact that role, and so I, feel like that's like a great way of setting the stage for optionality. Is The you know in in your research in the science of it. Is there an ideal size for meeting because I think that question comes up all the time? So, there isn't a magic number it. Really. So the thing that we do know is that meetings become dysfunctional. The larger they are. We know that inclusion decreases and engaged in decreases. Very few people canvassed actively facilitated meeting of more than a people. They ate irit, but they can't. It's really a skill to be able to try to bring folks together. In a meaningful way. So if you're having discussion, you know decision making meeting in my suggestion is really no more than ten people. Okay, right. You know if it's brainstorming, you can actually have more people because there are some really nice tools that you can use, and maybe we can talk about that later. So for example, silent brainstorming with silent brainstorming, you can actually have fifty sixty people and you'll have a really vigorous powerful brainstorming sessions. So we can circle back to silent brainstorming if you want to hear that. Did. You say silent I did okay. That's interesting. Silent brainstorming. That's yeah. I do WanNa go to that but I want to ask you about that question asked a. Question, which was trust because. I. Think Trust is. Trust is a massive issue in leadership anytime. It's become a trust psychologically now because of a potential collapse of economies. Is My job safe? Can I trust that this person has my back? Does the lead I have? My? Can I trust the that person up on the upper left box or the bottom right box? Whoever it is? Can I trust that? How do you? How would you? What's the science that shown the research has shown is trust particularly not only in a meeting in a remote meeting? Big Time. Big Time. and. So the seeds of trust though should be planted before the meeting. Right. Especially during these time, meaning leaders should be engaging with their people in a variety of different modalities. So. For example if I'm trying to develop more trust with you like you and I. should be having one on ones. Right. We should make sure that we have predictable times that we're checking in, and in fact I'm a big fan of leaders having these check in meetings as walking meetings using old technology. Right. Just get on the cell phone and take a walk together because again, that's really refreshing and different. So. The leaders plant the seeds in these interactions that occur before, and after the meeting, right? That's really where the trusts starts to emerge. And then during the meeting, it's it's about reinforcing that in the values you bring to the conversation right when you're facilitating in a genuine way. Truly genuine that trust continues to emerge If there's a challenge or an issue or something goes awry, you know that's where that posts needing conversation. Can help kind of that collective sense making. And then the other thing I would say about trust which I'm a really big fan of. that. I. I tell. Leaders that if? If, if you had to pick one thing to do to make your meetings better. The one thing you should do is periodically send a survey to your team members, asking them about your meetings. What's going? Well, what's not so well, what can we do differently? By doing that. You're open yourself up to their feedback by enacting that feedback. You're acting like a good steward of others time. Right meetings are inherently collective experiences and when you allow yourself to gather that feedback, right? That's another opportunity. To display to demonstrate that people can trust you because you care. Yeah I. Think you know if I. Sort of nailed down a lot of what you've said he It's very much aligned with my position, my position leadership, the leadership is to way not one way and the a lot of the time leadership and meeting leadership is pretty much the same in that. It's boring. 'cause somebody's talking at you. Rather. Than a CO communication that is facilitated and and so in the expensive that I wanna come back to because their agenda meetings. As in you know, we need to solve these problems. And, then there are a big problem meeting, which is, as you said, brainstorm and. I know the in a in a remote meeting, which is their world we're living in right now in a remote meeting, a brainstorm with I know because I. Run masterminds. brainstorm with moving eight people is a gong show is just a gun show. And we've got a break people up. So. Ultras about this idea of having bigger ones. And said silent brainstorming. Tell a make. Good. So rubs his hands the. Exam. So. Research has looked at. Brainstorming where people do with their mouths. I'm kind of around a table or an zoom meeting. First brainstorming where people do it in silence. You know typing in ideas into a computer or Google doc, and what they find is when people brainstorm in silence, they generate nearly twice as many ideas and the ideas tend to be more innovative and disruptive. Right. So why would silence promote that Well, first of all everyone can talk at once, right. Right. So that's why it doesn't matter if there's fifty people, it doesn't matter because everyone is able to type in their thoughts and experiences the very first idea shared doesn't. Shape you know right? Because that's what happens a lot with verbal brainstorming that Berry first idea now shapes the entire conversation. So. You're able to talk at. Once you're able to bring more of your self. And your ideas are less contaminated. So remote meetings are the perfect mechanism for silent brainstorming. I can stick in chat. A link to a Google, doc? Right, I can share that Google docs. Now, everyone's on their screen, they've got Google doc up. I. Say, okay. We're now going to engage in brainstorming I could lift one of my agenda questions stick on the Google doc and basically tell people okay. Start to go start to share your ideas for how we're going to cut the budget by twenty percent. Want you to look at people's ideas. Everyone just starts throwing them in there. After you've generated ideas for while, please feel free to go back and look at other people's ideas to see if it sparks news is if you have questions or comments, you can make those in the document. So. What starts to happen is you have this vigorous discussion? where. Everyone's participating and they're engaging and next thing you know you do that for fifteen or twenty minutes as a meeting leader, you're observing this and you might see themes emerge. You might be able to say, okay, look. We actually have consensus people are saying this this and this, or it might be the case that you need more time. So after people brainstorm for twenty minutes or so you say, okay, this was. was fantastic. Let's stop. I'll go back. I'll summarize what we learned identified the themes, and then we'll come back and I'll share it with you, and maybe what we'll do at that point is even a poll right where that's another thing we can readily do in remote meetings where people can identify, for example, the top five things that they want to explore. Well, the method I just laid out to you is different. It's exciting. It's engaging and it's fully inclusive. Yeah, I mean I. think that's one of the lovely things about it is you just you just made sure everybody had voice. And again I think that's part of why. Meaning son of down the toilet. Exactly. xactly. You you talked about I, just want to come back to you because you talked about having a background in. Organizational Psychology. How the hell did that lead you into science of meetings? Because organizational one thing sub as the organization in right. Right. I, think I got there because I hate meeting so much. Right, so I just personally observed when I had a day full of meetings, I mean the effects that it would have on me on terms of my frustration. But it was even more than that I just felt a sense of loss, right? The sense of loss here we are investing our time with really. SMART. People. And not getting meaningful things done or accomplished. So. It was that personal experience that kind of really lifted me to want to study these things and the first kind of studies. The research I did was just trying to link meeting activity to feelings of accomplishment, and basically what we found is that more meetings you had in a day, the less sense of accomplishment that you had, which is a terrible problem. Right? People work so much and to come home, not feeling that sense of accomplishment. Sad state of affairs, and so that's really what fueled kind of my passion around this topic was. Just a kind of. Stop getting people to accept bad meetings as a way of life. Right because it doesn't have to be. They can be. We can always think about meetings is being places of drain. Meetings done. Right. Can Be places of game. You can really draw energy and resources and excitement from a well done meeting that short. and. Relevant. Yeah. The the thing about it is that. As. You said I think the leaders, Lofton leave him, England. That was a great meeting. But retrospectively, that same leader a week later is like that was a waste of time because nobody did anything. Right. So that's you know. So the meeting is an achievement for the leader at the time, but. Typically. Feels like a waste of time and for the people who are in the meeting, it might be very much like in this moment was a waste of time. I don't think oftentimes I mean as far as saying about your y liked with your questions. As the agenda is it gives a person a sense of what they need to do. As opposed to well, who would like to do that, right? Anyone. Anyone Beulah, right. kind of us that that sense to it. That's right. You're absolutely right it it just it changes the conversation right? It, it says that, okay, it stops making meetings a habit and instead saying it's an investment, right? We're using meetings for a purpose. And, what's that purpose while is to answer these questions and so now next thing you know it's you have this very different perspective. About this time and then. Because you now see that time is valuable because it solving these questions. I think you become a better steward of time. Right, and you will try new things like silence because it's going to help you answer those questions. So you're just willing to put yourself out there I, think to be more creative and innovative, and to try to create that more inclusive safe environment. So when you say you, you brought up a word that I want to sort of. unpack a little bit because I. Think it's a word that gets thrown around but. oftentimes is misinterpreted stewardship stewardship of a meeting walkers through that a little bit saving just because I think it's misunderstood. Okay. So. I've interviewed hundreds of meeting attendees about meeting leadership, and the best meeting leaders appear to have something in common and what they have in common is they share a similar mindset where they recognize. That their role as a steward of of this time, and interestingly, leaders often have this stewardship mindset when they meet with customers or board members, right because they never want to waste their time, but when it comes to meeting with our team. We just tend to not have that mindset. So when you have a stewardship. You become intentional right from start to finish of that meeting us, decide that you want to make choices and it doesn't take long. It can take just a minute to kind of think about the meeting and how you want that meeting to look and what's the best way to approach these the meeting and so that. So for me stewardship is wanting to value people's time, it's about being intentional and thoughtful and recognizing that you had this period of time that people are giving you which. which we know that everyone cherishes time and you wanna be a good steward of that time. So you honor it. You think about it, you have to. You personally exemplified that all the time when you think about your interviews and your success right is because it you create a great story and that's because you're a good steward, right? You think through experience, you're not rigid because you're you're flexible, but you still have thought through that experience and you want to be a good steward of. Your guest time, but also your audience time and I think everything you're doing is trying to exemplify that principle. Very kind. Thank you I. Appreciate that you know mostly. He's obviously, very generous. The, Journey. To holding great. Meetings and engaging people in in this way. Is a journey and I, think that. Yeah. There are probably people who've become really great stewards at it. and the probably people who either sort of somewhat natural ability if you will. But. I think for most of us, life is a journey in all kinds of ways. Did you used to run. I. Mean. Because you said, you hated meetings and you part of them and they suck the life. Did you use to run crappy meetings was a time when you were that guy? So my problem? Was that overvalued harmony? So I just wanted harmony in my meetings and. That was my blind spot. and. So in collecting feedback. That's really where I learned that to truly be a good steward of other time, we need to have clashes, and my job is actually took encourage the clashes of ideas, not people, but of ideas and I need to create that environment. kind of this positive turbulence, but I can't be afraid of turbulence. So, for me, that was my biggest My biggest blind spot that I worked hard on and I'm it took me a while, but I I feel like. I feel like I'm pretty much there, but I'm still. I'm still always learning and trying to get better. You know it was interesting I've kind of screwed myself. Because once you write a book about meetings, you know people expect you to be doing it perfectly all the time and. You don't do it there on you. So. I have to be extra exiting to pay ninety seven. Three Stephen I think you've failed that. It's really funny because of people scheduled meetings with me. Now, there's never meeting for an hour. It's always an odd time is really funny I. Get meeting invites for forty eight minutes. Twenty, three minutes, right? Because you know people do there really are trying to so demonstrate intentionally. That's very cool the. Just thinking about Nazi. Way. Is there a company? Or? An organization that you feel is really done a great job. Of. Taking on this idea of really applying the signs of meetings and taking on that intentionally in stewardship meetings. It really isn't. There are companies that do certain things well You know like But the company that did it best was Intel. Maybe around twenty years ago, I can't remember when Andy Grove was CEO. But Andy Grove, was passionate around getting meetings right and he actually implemented a practice where every new Intel employ have be trained on meetings in fact, early on, he would do the trading because he wanted to create that culture. Of getting these meetings, right. So that was a real principled action, right when the CEO showing this incredible investment. I can find companies that I've worked with, for example, that. Will start to include content around meetings under engagement surveys. Right? Because, right now, most companies have no content around meeting. So despite the fact that everyone's spending all their time. They have no accountability. Right? There's no feedback. There's no dashboard. So I know of companies that are have implemented that dashboard. So as a result, it's it's created attention and focus on the topic. So that's been really a positive I know companies that. You know where they've made sure that everyone has the training around the surprising science and meaning so that everyone's of the similar mindset, right? Because it's hard if you're trained and only one person receives training, it's hard to get everyone on board. So they really try to bring out the best. There's companies that have have implemented. The agenda items as questions approach where that become kind of a normative thing. There's companies have done a really good job at trying to manage meeting load. So for example Pfizer. Pretty, much have something called finish it Fridays, which is Friday. Afternoons is a meeting free time zone. Right, so that people can get their stuff done before the weekend starts. So I could go in and I did that in the book I tried to grab different practices from different companies like Amazon does some really good stuff? Around meetings, and so I put those all throughout their with the science, and you know what's Nice is that there are companies that are doing things. They didn't know it, but it's perfectly aligned with the science. So I really try to highlight those as well because there was the whole thing around teams being pizza sizes, all the rest of it. You know we all about and I get that I understand that. But you know as we were talking about here, you know size and virtual remote meetings i. think that the potential for people to zone out, I'll be clicking on email while on a zoom meeting is so yeah. I I. Know I mean I, it's I'm very focused in doing these I. do a lot I probably have. Somewhere, around be around twenty meetings a week, right? That's a lot of hours, a lot of time, and because of that I'm pretty well trained, knowing how to stay focused on it. But I can remember being when when I first started doing things, you know I be like right now and talking you know looking at email and Clicking on a facebook page. And I know that people are doing. And it's not because. Even. One of the things I WANNA say leaders. It's not necessarily because you're crappy leading crappy leading. It's just it's very distracted environment. You know. So I, think part of the agendas going to be close everything else off or remove everything else will minimize else, and again that's being a good steward. Insane. How do we get it moving forward? Or even could be so shortening meeting size it meeting length is key. If the meeting is longer take a break in the middle like these zoom meetings typically don't have breaks. But if you tell people listen, we're GONNA stop in twenty minutes and people can check their email. Go on their, they're facebook. What have you write that also is helpful. So. You can build in these breaks you know, but I really do. I. Think that the the key thing to stop the multitasking is just to really focus on reducing size and length. People so appreciate that and really these these recordings are beautiful because you can listen to them at twice the speed. And some of them come with transcript. So you can do a quick search on a topic and I'm that little snippet that's relevant to you, and so those two actions I just feel are are just such a great display of stewardship. If I say to you listen. We're having a meeting and I don't think it's all that relevant Uber I'll give you the recording and you can go through it quickly. I, mean. That's just like what a kind generous gift and this now, I'm giving you back probably an hour where you can recuperate where you don't have to have. You know the zoom fatigue never sets it because you're regaining power. Agency. That's really good. Now, as we come to the end of this show, I want to ask you a couple of quick questions how. particularly in this context, how how important do you think? Curiosity is. In in this particular context. In meetings or just in this environment with code and things like that. Well, you can go both okay. Curiosity to me right now is so so critical among people are in this mindset of Okay Cova does happen. How can we do exactly everything? We were doing before now? Yes, and to me, that's a faulty mindset. Curious. Is, what are the new opportunities for? US, given this environment, right? How can we make education better than we ever had it before as opposed to just trying to do everything we did before. In this kind of current context. So I love this idea that when we're confronted with really difficult and challenging things. To feed on that curiosity has curiosity is about opportunity. I agree. Fully, what do you think? IT TAKES TO BE A. To really be a great leader today. Your experience. I mean, you're a professor, you know you even been at ub see. Who? You receive for those of you don't know is is the University of where I live in a university of British Columbia, which is actually very, highly, very respected university in the world. But you've been you know. So what do you think it really takes to be a great leader. Today I think right now. What people want is honesty. transparency. genuine caring. Creativity innovative this mindedness. That opportunity thinking. Right. Those types of characteristics when you can assure people, Hey, this is rough. Right this is a difficult time. But we can grow from this. We can be better i. think that kind of a leadership style. Especially, if it's accompanied with honesty and trust that you mentioned earlier I, think can really energize a-team and get people out of bad spiral because I. think that's if we if we do leadership kind of as usual I think people stay in this bad mental cycle where you're just kind of waiting for Kobe to stop and. Who knows when it's GonNa stop and even when it stops, it's not gonNA stop make things are GonNa be fundamentally different. At good opportune opportu opportunity based thinking kindness caring empathy I think is a key to moving forward couldn't agree more I think that. think it's it's. It's never been a smart idea to think about getting back to normal. In anything I think that get trying to get back to normal now is really this less than smarts. Dumb. We've got a look at not even a new normal like being agile. I did a training a couple of weeks ago, and it was called. Agile is the new certainty and that's what it is. We've got to be agile with whatever is, and I think that a lot of what you've laid out. here in regards to meetings is about agility curiosity and Jalousie, to to pay attention with so many things so. As we come to the end. Now want to ask you for two things. One is I. of course, I want you to let everybody know whether to find out more about you and all your wonderful resources. But before that a really like you to leave our view as an listeners with A. Single practical thing they could go do in the next twenty four hopefully, next house. Maybe less that they can go to really implement what it is. You've been talking about with. would. That be? I. Mean. That's a tough one because there's so many different senses. But. I'm going to go back to. Something I mentioned earlier where if you truly want. Your meetings to be better. And you've been doing remote meetings now for a few months, this is the perfect time to do a quick survey of your team Mr and see how it's going. and. I just think that's the greatest way for you to. Kind of show, your team that you care and you're gonNA. Find. Some good tips that way. So I think that's the easiest low hanging fruit to go after. That's a great practicality. Just how about surveying people and find out how the meetings are going so far and what works, what doesn't what what could we do better? That's right. That's really good. Simple. Great. please. Tell our you now listen as more about you know, wonderful resources especially the book. Thank you. So, they can visit my website. It's just Stephen Rober Dot. com. Steven Spielberg dot com or the surprising science dot Com and I have tons of resources on their for folks your different assessments and checklist links to different interviews. I definitely hope that people will it out and on my email address is there. So people can reach out if they have any questions. So yeah, Stephen Rogue, Aberg Dot com, and again that Stephen With V. Yes. Sir Local Burgas are owed G. E. L. B., e. r., G. Stephen, Rogle bug, dot com. Of course, we're postal that, and you can, of course, find Stephen. Also in Lincoln, are you on facebook twitter, those kinds of wages? Yes. Name yes. Fabulous Steven. It's been a pleasure. Having you here. Thank you so much. I. Thank you. The surprising science of meetings and thank you for being a great guy, and for all that you're shed and I hope that you D listenable put it into action. Remember that you can go chat about this episode with other And, hang out with the conscious leaders. By, going to facebook Oh Lincoln and look in groups the leadership from loyalty podcast. You know it doesn't matter how successful you off if your employees and your customers don't understand what gives you a company meaning. You're only working a fraction of your capability to find out more about how you can hire me Barron a speaker or leadership strategist for yourself or your organization. You can also go to DAV BARON DOT com the lovie. Be. Rom. Dot Com 'cause unified meaning or as we call it finding your dragonfly is the one single monolithic difference between. Individuals and in companies. Thank you for sharing the show with everybody a no, till next time. Stay curious my friend. Stay curious about how you. Can take meetings from sucking. So being exciting to being invigorating to being innovative to being engaging. It's all up to you read the secret science of meetings. 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Billionaire Bull; Teslas Plan for China; Davos in the Desert

Squawk Pod

32:09 min | 11 months ago

Billionaire Bull; Teslas Plan for China; Davos in the Desert

"With a I- blockchain and quantum technology IBM IS PARTNERING WITH CLIENTS TO DEVELOP SMART scalable technologies that help businesses what kind of Tech Company does the world need today one that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise not just for some but for all eight years ago where he said Okay it's time to sell what's your big takeaway on Ron's message for investors right now particularly with the way the markets are you know if you look around it's a pretty turbulent time who was the founder and CEO of under armor he finds people who he thinks are at dynamic who have big ideas and then he watches the companies and watches the markets now this squad the daily podcast brought to you by the team behind squawk box control to CNBC's essential morning show in Davos in the desert Saudi Arabia's anyone investment conference kicks off next week who's going WHO's not and why it matters commissions and happens every day get the best stories debate and analysis from the biggest names in business and politics today legendary investor Ron Baron believes his take is that this is an incredible time to get into the markets he thinks people are far too pessimistic are host Barron Investment Conference Ron Barren Barren capitals chairman companies. They don't have permanent enemies you know they don't have permanent friends they just have permanent interest I'm CNBC producer Cameron Kosta it's Friday October twenty fifth Kikoko's and so does Katie your usual podcast host they cut off this morning off camera we're at Lincoln Center in New York City today and this is where the baron investment strategy that goes beyond tomorrow is key to a positive outlook today the next fifty years there's going to be similar to the last fifty years that'd be twenty five times your money invest now invest in people you know some of the people that we've met her over the years have been people like Elon Musk who's the head of Tesla and creator of Tesla we've met Kevin plank closing in on the weekend got a lot to do before then though this is a huge oh genuinely today we really mean it we really do have a big show listen listen bringing show musically tesla new Chairman Robyn Denholm took aligns job but she's still one of his biggest fan the way he runs the company is is phenomenal conference is taking place it's an annual conference that we've been coming to since two thousand and eight so we've been longtime longtime participants in just coming along for the ride McCartney which he said was his favorite but the big deal and the reason somebody shareholders who come here the Barron shareholders come is because he brings up his managers they give their take on the world and then they bring up the CEO's a lot of the the biggest companies that Burns invested in and and so it's really kind of a mix of entertainment and and and really mine is a buy and hold investor who's long term strategy has made him a legend on Wall Street every year CNBC goes to his investors conference this year and many of years of view of what's happening in the economy and what's happening in business so so Ron's whole perspective is by hold stocks for a long time this am businesses and what I think is that when you think about the turmoil that's taking place in the stock market now and everyone is afraid he said buy and hold for a long time that doesn't mean buy and hold forever like Buffet Likes To do Warren Buffet likes to do under Armour Kevin Plank was a big investor in that company but there was a time if you Ross sorkin along with Joe Kernan becky quick with she is live in the barren investment conference with the legendary Ron Baron we're going to get to them in just Ron Ed. CEO Let's talk a little bit about your theme this year it's called what's next why what's next and what is next so what's next is that so we're looking do there The interesting United States are have been going down the way I think about it though is that the stock market today is pretty much the same values now and and and even better is that interest rates today or one and a half percent one point six percent for ten years they're normally four and a half percent and seeing what Ron has to offer mazing thing is ron brings lots of big entertainment where it Lynn Lincoln Center so in the past he's brought guests like Barbra streisand or Bruce springsteen or for faster growth in the future then in the past and but what's next is the growth the economy goes for the stock market what do you mean economy and that what's going to happen in the next fifty years of course I'll be one hundred twenty six by then and you can reach me at Barron Funds Dot Com they will know where Al Jones is now twenty six or twenty seven thousand twenty six times the economy then was eight hundred and fifty billion is now twenty one point three trillion eighteen months and with the Internet of things going knowledge is going to double according to IBM every eight hours or twelve hours knowledge humankind it's a mess but but really sticks and the assassination of President Kennedy swapping my office about I have a lot of younger people mouse and they said tell me about this assignations twenty five times so all you had to do this believe that this country was going to survive and invest then and you would have made twenty five hundred money and so I think todd begins right now under by three two one two Andrew Good morning and welcome to spot right here on CNBC we love Nasdaq market site in Times Square meant for ten years you have platform investments now so it used to be when I was young and you wanted to make money you'd build a factory for a million dollars or hotel and then maybe uh-huh and but but I'm thinking about the next the next fifty years it's going to be similar to the last fifty years that'd be twenty five times or money if you invest I therefore other people giving you money writing off have platform built you could be a licensor people could be using your business in the cloud and then all of a sudden you start getting revenues and that revenue so you can do it exactly so it's capital low interest rates the technology technology is making businesses grow faster ears but why isn't reflected in the numbers why isn't the economic growth stronger because you're right information technology all of these different ways of increasing our productivity are but when when you look at our growth that we've seen to this point a lot of people say our economy is just stuck in a slower growth economy we're never going to be able to grow faster pace we've seen it pick up a little bit over the last several you the streets are trying to keep law and order yet the Vietnam War protests women's rights protesting so so everything was invested midst turmoil in nineteen sixty nine. You would've made twenty five times your money I think six and a half percent annual growth is going to continue on average under five hundred and fifty whatever the heck it is Ron Barron is you guessed it yet another squawk box billionaire which means we had to ask him doubt so when people talk about and the economy was twenty one trillion it'd be five hundred trillion so basically when people talk about economy's a little slower the stock market you just seventy eighty ninety percent margin that's worth more than a earnings per share company without having put up the capital people finding some of these two sixties and people said well John Kennedy said anyone else and they said I don't know it was Martin Luther King in one thousand nine six eight and Robert Kennedy Nineteen Sixty eight they tried to get George nations that it was in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and sixteen point six times earnings or sixteen point five times earnings then then was amidst turmoil you had the city's on fire the national guard it used to be one hundred years ago that knowledge doubled every hundred years and then after World War Two it was twenty five years and now it's every awesome so so there was turmoil and it was a concern that that the country was going to survive but the stock market then was thousands on because and and also it's it's making your costs be lower and then knowledge knowledge is growing the fastest pace than it's ever grown and it's not reflected in government numbers right now people are afraid well you're in one of these the economy doesn't go like this it goes like this and and so the result gets and I think he's probably giving away more than that his dad was a plumber died when lugging refrigerator up a flight of stairs you really good Eric and dream and she's blanking all over it Warren responded yesterday saying come on Leon why don't you just give back a little bit more why don't you give back some of what you've been here's you know for young people if going to be six hundred and fifty thousand or six hundred thousand you know it's just compounding I was just ask what's your biggest investment I said I'm not sure I think about the highly debated wealth tax if you recall the other day we spoke to a different billionaire investor about said well tax and billionaires in general here's Leon Cooperman on air with us last week Shen but you pay a lot salary against your salary and so so they're trying to say I think that if you're if you and so that's everything everything everything could you say tax deductible and not not in putting real estate taxes I pay those in to that whenever goes down people say this is it this is the end I better get out and so all these people watch remote show in the morning and everyone talks about well the stock market the leadings if they need to raise more revenue what would you suggest they do a wealth tax is not the right idea so eight hundred thousand one hundred fifty thousand after you take the risk of putting up a million and so but now you've you've come into capital late business you have technology ah fifteen years ago fifteen years people are thinking about tomorrow fifteen years and what happened is that it's up forty times so we invested at fifteen dollars now six hundred that's you know and people have higher amounts of cash and they've ever had before in Europe they have negative interest rates people so concerned is eighteen central banks can in Rio and you have a high income tax rate is higher very very high what's your tax rate fifty to fifty three percent something like that it's over fifty it's co-stars during and so it's a it's a database and we're I was just we invested in you know I think it's going to go down a thousand points or five hundred points or one hundred points but if you're thinking about the style with now twenty six thousand and it's going to be fifty have saved energy dishes about the way you spend an invested to create business a business for its benefiting a lot of families it is going to go up it's going to go down it's going to go sideways a condominium worried about a recession everyone's worried about something and but the big thing to remember is what it was talking about before all sorts of things that are legal so so all you're going to do is encourage people value added tax by the way would would catch people very generous man very helpful food is a for the cores of big charity pizza he gives away a lot and if you live in the northeast I just think that that and I've been I said I'm a Democrat my whole life and I always will be and my grandfather was an immigrant mother Kevin what would your response be to that who leaves an incredibly generous men and I think he's giving away he's already committed to giving away at least half of this chessel well then you shouldn't be successful or you some money coming back which just means that you're going to be taking some of those jobs that you would have created otherwise you and what Lee Cooperman has been up two weeks he just got into it with Elizabeth Warren the other day he said I think depend white from politico this is the FBI can then that is it should be taxed more highly then if you just take your income and spend it via boat or House for vacation ah just to survive so I think that so I'm not when the president got elected I know him and yes so they're trying to encourage consumption so Bernie says you shouldn't have any billionaires and this is with wine says if you're successful because his country's allows you to be that's that was his theory and so so I think that you should be encouraging people to invest and you should make and up portraying billionaires as criminals it would be better off if we had more billionaires too it's tax them becky asked Ron Barron about this exact issue help businesses work better together let's expect more from technology let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn his work better together let's expect more from technology let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more art so what happened next and who took his place that would be the woman you'll hear from next Robyn Denholm she was already aboard member when she was named chair so it wasn't a stretch the next on squawk todd from constant chirps to virtual crickets Elon Musk's twitter journey with Tesla's new chairman and Tesla's biggest bowl Ron Baron one for the next fifty years at least and then what that means is Dow Jones which now twenty six or twenty seven thousand up twenty five times at six hundred and fifty thousand for all with a blockchain and quantum technology IBM is partnering with Clients Develop Smart Scalable Technologies that and the way let's explain to people who don't know you you are long-term longtime democratic supported Democratic candidates throughout this little different than Li up is fair and equitable whole businesses possible but it's not my job to figure out with policy should be I just figured out how I can do the best for more welcome back to squawk box you probably remember Elon Musk's infamous intro spelt who's the president's son as running for mayor in Miami and he said well they always take from you the Democrats just give you a little bit what kind of Tech Company does the world need today one that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise not just for some but she's not going to be successful if she were chosen president as getting through the policies and proposing I think they're pretty nuts tweets about taking tesla private in August of last year you might also remember the battle with the SEC that followed and the eventual settlement that removed musk from his role as chairman of Tesla's UH in Europe they tried to do a wealth tax and it didn't work people figured out how to avoid it the lawyers in private practice or real good at figuring out how to do it and he said so what do you right after the election said what do you think I should do what you should do and that's not my Gig I we're spending it now what what some people say about that is it's it's a regressive tax because those at the lowest part of the income scale have to spend all of their money I add he wants told me he came from Russia they had to leave and everything and he said you know Ron I'm Democrat some so why why he was working for from toys and for clients and whatever it is it is and I don't think that this would be successful and getting doesn't matter how many people are going to be elected or a Democrat correct Peres told me a year ago that he had come up with a Chart Yvonne tweeted you're done and we avenue tweeted this topic there's a new chairman in place for checks and balances but the choice doesn't ease my concern about the instability of Management Robin has been part of the Muscatine for quite some time but that doesn't mean everyone was thrilled about the appointment on air with CNBC shortly after the announcement a wealth manager explained why he was still wary of the Tesla's stock on the great together let's expect more from technology let's put smart to work visit I._B._M.. Dot Com slash smart to learn more against Iran is totally focused laser focus on cost of operations and what he does my my observation he misses getting that Robin would be the adults in the room at Tesla few have been as consistently bullish as Ron Baron though he's been a shareholder for five years and he's been confident in his investments the company but I can't afford not to make a billion dollars and still today literally this Martin you have been a longtime bowl longtime believer and Tesla have you sold any of your position throughout in two thousand seventeen when the case Tesla I have this long-term view I think we're GonNa you know fifteen years we're GONNA make huge thirty times or money and twenty times or money in two thousand eighteen we're GONNA we're GonNa make twenty times or money because because the opportunity is so enormous and people are saying cheater spending ooh what's happening at this point in time here's becky sitting with Ron Baron and Tesla's chairman Robyn Denholm in a very busy Lincoln Center Andrew and Joe are of course joining what did your relationship change or just the way you work together change as you took on the role of chairman and how often do you see him how much yeah I mean obviously the however shortsellers since the beginning of the year still are up about eleven percent so this is the whole idea about investing and seeing when you say something to him it would make sense he listened to that he has his teams of young people throughout the organization telling possibly more than others and you know it's a it's a good working village you are somebody who's got an incredibly impressive background both technology and AUTOMATION COMPANY TURNS OF both operational financial roles and I'm exact between the two areas fictive of which company and I've always been jury focused on looked over so many different issues and so much experience what types of conversations we have the on what what types of things do you talk about yeah I mean my background and and actually I think it's it's a joy to be in that environment both from the perspective but also with working with with so you knew him for a long time beforehand as well you worked at Toyota most recently before you took this job chief operating officer tells trump's got a very good working knowledge base somebody who has a young times where Robert WanNa thank you very much with us it's a pleasure to have you here thank you tell us a little bit about your relationship with Lon how the two of you work together what's happened over we have our regular meetings but we also have conversations between and so they're they're relatively regular but you know sometimes is you hold all of it the entire down and what did you think of the earnings yesterday whether we're good dry shortsellers lost about a billion dollars just yesterday the last year I've been on the board for five years before this point in time and so we formed a good working relationship of you this question are you glad that he's not tweeting as much I think he is a very disciplined individual and I think that making sure that we're driving Montana shareholder value for the company and so as board member I take that responsibility very seriously as do the rest of my in many different industries to runs point and I think I think the The testament is any cer who actually and that side which is a phenomenal achievement we plan to produce vehicles in China for the Chinese market and take it a lot of cash of course it's been in building factories in March of this year I haven't bought stock for myself for seventeen years this is the first stock good I told the board I would like to make an investment I'm half of our firm Barron capital in this company I did it for capital because they said Gee I can afford to lose the investment that I have in in Berry the way he runs that that company is is phenomenal so in Alaska's your talk about this then one of the Oh being put into place as we're building China factory and the ten son phenomenal job go couple of those things from it because I said earlier that sometimes Eli over promises and under Delivers Ron corrected me and said he over promises and then delivers a little later than you thought you were surveys and as we bring that factory online and your hood on the earnings call that actually we're in talk production today only ten months after we broke ground relationship with the Chinese government so tense onto the factory and the reason why the company's factory is we see into better community that we say in the voice their robin just in terms of the ramp up there we did have an analyst on yesterday who said Yeah it looks pretty promising what you're doing in China but oh Kazoo Berkeley he listens to you as well for Larry Ellison as wealth bright ideas and I think the bullets at right bracket are being applied to China and so the team on the ground whether it's on the tooling side whether it's on the workforce side or even just how we interact with supplies the way it works in China that if you are working with Chinese companies with Chinese employees you don't have that flexibility what what do you say that what does that lead you to believe just in terms of profitability in the past some of what Tesla's done has been to ramp up and bring a lot of employees and get things up and then maybe scaled back as you see demand actually should be he pointed out that that's audacious goals and he goes to actually and then have everybody in the company work like crazy to get there and again they finally back over the last five years nobody and jerome for example have regular meetings with the staff and say what can we do better and then he says it will come up with idea they show it to you and then does it and Tair first operation which just opening to build three thousand courts a week that's a hundred and fifty thousand a year on this conference call yesterday a huge opportunity for bars in in China abuse of the largest market today for mid sized vehicles intensive sedans can continue to grow a company away Avon has with Tesla he's going to listen to all points of view that going to help the company moved forward I'll ask Tehran before hand and the local team in China of being working hand in glove to make sure that we take advantage of the things that we've learned so much for your time being so generous with us I wanNA thank you for your time and joining us here waiting it's been amazing year we really appreciate it that somehow those in Washington were not then enter by five seconds national outrage over the killing of journalist Jamal Kashogi Kashogi was murdered in Istanbul last October and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman is believed to have been complicit he's had told me a year ago that he had come up with a chart and the chart was when John tweeted with the stock done and adding tweeted with the stock a gun an annual Saudi Arabian economic conference kicks off next week and a lot has changed from year ago last year US political and business leaders skipped the conference amid how you're able to be flexible. I think what I would say is all of the learnings that we've had in terms of ramping of the company both with model tree and the estimates joining us in Studio Walter is in Advisory Partner at Perella Weinberg

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AP Headline News Jan 11 2019 22:00 (EST)

AP Radio News

04:30 min | 1 year ago

AP Headline News Jan 11 2019 22:00 (EST)

"I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lock your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans. Call for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states MLS number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply. AP radio news. I'm Tim McGuire. President Trump says he has no plan to declare a national emergency along the border with Mexico. But how does she do this? Saga megani has more dispute with Democrats over wall? Funding has led to what tonight will become the nation's longest government shutdown the president's been threatening to declare an emergency as a way of going around congress today, he called it the easy solution. But I'm not going to George so fast because this is something congress should do though. There is no indication lawmakers would as the impasse continue some eight hundred thousand government workers missed paychecks today. Saga megani? Washington. Gloria as a spouse of a coast guardsman says she and others are dismayed by the lack of a paycheck out there working, very hard. And and this is how we be treated twenty one year old Jake Patterson is being held as a suspect in the Tober shooting. Deaths of Barron Wisconsin couple and the abduction of their thirteen year old daughter, Jamie Kloss who escaped yesterday from a home in a rural area of Wisconsin, Barron county sheriff Chris FitzGerald says investigators are still trying to figure out how Paterson new about the young girl was reunited with their aunt at the hospital afternoon. She will also be reunited later this evening with the rest of her family. She is doing as well as circumstances. A lot Patterson will have his first court appearance on Monday people in Davis. California are shocked by the shooting death of twenty two year old police officer Nedley Coronas officer, China just doing her job and taken too soon. And just a sign of a sign of the times. It's it's really a sad thing to happen. In two in our town, corona the daughter of a retired share sergeant was shot and killed while investigating a traffic crash last night. The suspect later killed himself says AP radio news. Three people are dead some twenty three others hurt. Fourteen in critical condition after a double decker bus slammed into a transit helter in Ottawa candidate today. Police chief Charles bordello tells C TV I want to express my sorrow and cannolis of the audibly service and other first responders to the loved ones of the families of those individuals involved. Several of the injured remained remain in serious condition. Bordello says the bus driver was arrested after the crash. He didn't provide details on why she was detained mayor. Jim Watson says two of those killed were on the bus. The other was in the shelter. An eighteen year old Saudi woman who says she was abused by your family and feared for her life. If sent back has left Thailand for Canada, which has granted her asylum. She's flying Toronto, by way of soul. NBC reaches a settlement deal and cuts ties with making Kelly who lost their morning show. After black-faced comments last year. I've Tim McGuire. Ep radio news. What's in store for your business this week at Staples doing business like a CEO while saving like, a CFO stingles has all the supplies you need to run your business like a boss at prices that will make your bookkeeper smile? Now that is an achievement. Everything from markers and pens to twenty nine thousand nine discounters. And right now at twelve pack of sharpy markers, and an eight pack of expo dry erase markers are only four ninety nine each at Staples. Where there's a whole lot in store and one nine hundred nineteen in store only. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lock your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans, offer cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states animal last number thirty thirty conditions or exclusions may apply. The.

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#865  From Bitterness to Blessing (Ruth 4:14)

Pray the Word with David Platt

05:52 min | 9 months ago

#865 From Bitterness to Blessing (Ruth 4:14)

"Pre The word with David. Platt is a resource from radical dot. Ruth Chapter Four Verse Fourteen. The woman woman said to Naomi blessed be the Lord who has not left you this day without a redeemer and may his name be renowned in Israel. there's so much we could say about this verse about the conclusion to this book. Just think back to the beginning and ruth. Chapter one where Naomi is baron saying. Don't even call me Naomi. Call Me Mehra for the Almighty has dealt belt bitterly with me. She is bitter and Baron with no husband no sons all she has is a mobike daughter in law. Aw from this cursed people and three chapters later. The women are saying you are blessed blessed last by God's blessing to God for His grace in your life for he has provided a redeemer for you and your life is entirely new. You now have a son on ener daughter-in-law and a grandson who by the way the book goes on to talk about will be the father of Jesse who will be the father of David. So your grandson. unbeknownst to her in that moment would be the grandfather of King David. Israel's most famous king the king after God's own heart through whose line would eventually come king. Jesus like you can't write any. And he's gripped better than this in the end of this book to see the blessing of God to Z.. Glory being given to God and I just want to encourage you with with the structure like you may feel at times like Naomi in chapter one bitter Barron hurt despairing feeling hopeless and I just I just want to encourage you for all who know God for all who trust in Jesus. Bitterness will not have the last last word baroness will not be the end of the story. Hopelessness and despair will not be the final refrain. No Way Jesus has died on the cross. He has risen from the dead. He has conquered death itself. That means means all who hope in him always have hope and never need to despair and can know that yes. There may be morning mm for a time. There may be hurt for a time. There may be paying for a time. We live in a fallen world where we know. These things are realities but we also know that the one who is in us is greater than he who is in the world and we know that this world will not have the last word so God has power to turn mourning into. Dancing has power to turn bitterness into blessing. God has power to totally turn everything being upside down and he will in the end he will. We know the end of the story. Revelation Chapter Twenty one because of the king who has come through the Line of David through the line of Ruth. We know because our king has conquered death. There's coming a day when death will be no more when there will be no more mourning warning or crying or pain anymore for the all will be gone in the new. Have come in all those who've experienced in tasted bitterness and baroness And trial and hurt and pain in this world one day will say blessed be God who has brought brought us through that and has poured out his blessing on us in ways far beyond what we can imagine that we will enjoy for all time time forever and ever ever. Oh God we praise you for the hope that is found in. Jesus we raise you for the glimpses of hope there. We see all throughout your worth encourage us like the story of Ruth. God pray for my own life and those who are listening right now. Go Re pray that you'd help us to cling to hope I've got I pray for faith on days when faith is hard to come by a brave for strength in the middle of weakness and God I pray I pray that you would in all of our lives indeed right this story with a script that is far greater than we could ever imagine. Bring Ring Baroness to blessing. Bring hopelessness to hope in mourning to dancing and despair to victory. All of these things we know are ours in Christ. We believe that you have the last word Lord Jesus and and we believe in you we trust in you. We hope in you and we know that our hope our faith is well founded in you and we know that when we're worshiping you beside men and women from every nation drive and tongue who have come mm to know you as redeemer that our faith was indeed well-founded we we love you. Lord we praise you for your love for us. You are our redeemer and we bless your name in Jesus name we pray Amen.

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Coronavirus Deaths World-Wide Surpass 100,000

WSJ Minute Briefing

02:12 min | 5 months ago

Coronavirus Deaths World-Wide Surpass 100,000

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Eat a Peach

Bear and a Banjo

53:24 min | 11 months ago

Eat a Peach

"Iheartradio and the US Census Bureau wanted to do something special for the class of twenty twenty, so we made commencement a new podcast with boards of inspiration from the biggest names like Palsy. While we can be sold a lot of things, we will never buy a dream cash. Becky G and pit bull generational change. The world listen to iheartradio new podcast commencement in partnership with Twenty Twenty census speeches available now on iheartradio, APP, or wherever you get your podcasts, remember you can do something that will affect the next ten years so if you lived in a dorm, don't worry. Your school will count you if you didn't visit twenty. Two Thousand Census Dot Gov to be counted. Hi. I'm Morris Gumbo host of trend reporter, a new podcast from iheartradio. You may know me from TV. Where I covered any and everything as a four time Emmy Award winning journalist in my new podcast, the trend reporter I'm putting my reporting skills to work in the world of beauty and wellness I'm talking to fashion stylists, makeup, artists, influencers, health, experts, and more to find out everything you WanNa, know about the trends you should know. Listen to the trend reporter on the iheartradio APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Seeks months later in new, Orleans, my father and I. had been traveling, you see. Need took me to the harbour. The tall docked. brought me onto a large mercantile ships led me below deck. Then slit my throat. Leaving me to die in a pool of my own. Remember him. Standing above me chanting. Death to you, my son. To you, my son. He was at all of course. He wasn't immortal and I wasn't. Despite his best efforts. I survived. I learned I blotted for eight long years. Welcome to burn Banjo. This episode made from the tape recorded German. MUSICOLOGIST DR BE QUICKLY The holder of the Henry Roeland Byrd Chair of American studies at the University of Oxford. The one in Mississippi of course. This time Dr accusing gays in the dedicated study of the two men referred to in southern folk, lower aspire and Banjo. This unlikely Paris native appeared the key moments in the development of the mid century, American musical vernacular. While for the most part eluding the historic record. But Dr Q. is determined to separate the myth from the actual history. The following is a letter from the officer. Gregson Vlade the third, a mysterious mid-century Industrialists, former music, publisher and deranged, lunatic, driven mad from his genetic passed and his father's cruelty. He was allegedly school in a strange form of. taught to him as a young boy when his father Gregson Flaw, the second prosperous Canadian fur trader from the deepest, Carpathians in what is now Romania and was then known as Transylvania abandoned him on a ship in New Orleans when he was just nine years old, his father was an evil man, whose only Love was profit certifiably insane himself. He burned the boy's mother in cold blood at the dinner table, and forced his then nine year old son to bury the body on their land, claiming the voices of his ancestors had commended him. He then left his only son behind after a six month journey to New Orleans in an effort to divest himself of airs, thinking he would live forever. Owing to his strange beliefs, he carried with him from the old country in Transylvania. Students of loader Turin late night. Horror films will recognize Transylvania as the location of Bram. STOKER'S DRACULA, while most no the legend, the actual history is much darker I turn to the Renown Medieval Historian and Dracula expert Dr Leslie H Phillips from Columbia University in New, York. Most people only know Dracula from the eighteen, Ninety, seven novel written by Bram Stoker. who was in fact an Irishman? The real life inspiration was in actuality based upon the Fifteenth Century Ruler, Vlad, the third later known as Vlad the impaler and finally. Vlad Dracula A SOBRE Kay. He adopted from his enemies who referred to him as drug who? which modern Romanian is translated to mean the devil? Vlad's act of cruelty are Legion for the sheer scale of their horror. Throughout his fifty year reign beginning and fourteen, twenty seven, Vlad unleashed a soon Nami of genocidal violence across central and western Europe unmatched save for Adolf, Hitler and the Nazis some five hundred years later. I know quote from an original text chronicling his reign of terror firsthand. Vlad had a big copper culture and built and put a lid made a board with holes in it on top. He put the people in the cauldron, and put their heads in the holes and fastened them there. Then he filled it with water and set a fire under it and let the people cry. There is out until they were boiled to death. And, then he invented frightening, terrible unheard of tortures, he ordered that women be impaled together with their suckling babies on the same stake. The baby spot for their lives at their mother's breasts until they died. Then, he had the women's breasts cut off and put the baby's inside headfirst. Thus had them impaled. Together. That is the awful history of Sir Gregson flood the thirds blood. A direct descendant and progenitor of his family name, his father carried that same cruelty in his heart, as did his father before him, like some sort of generational man is passed down from generation to generation. Although coming from prosperity, and raised until the age of nine in gilded luxury, he spent the bulk of his youth until the age of seventeen in abject poverty living alone after escaping from an orphanage where he was brought after being discovered abandoned on that mercantile ship by his father. Taken in by the Jesuits, he was mercilessly abused by the other boys as well as the priest upon escape, he found himself in an abandoned shotgun shack in the bowels of the French quarter. He became a pickpocket and petty thief to survive along the way he was schooled by one of the fifteen voodoo queen scattered about th century. Orleans it's from them. He learned the medicinal arts of the religion, its ability to raise the near dead, also known to some as Zomba vacation and the use of the Voodoo doll as punishment towards others from here he plotted his escape from New Orleans his return to his ancestral home in northern Ontario. The aptly named Wolf Lodge. And were finch take upon his father who had left him in new. Orleans to die for at least to disappear, luckily Sir Vlade had no heirs to terrorize, or to pass on his evil jeans, instead he focused his higher on competitors to his business, or those who displeased him in the course of his work therein, Banjo as their luck withdrawn, would soon be ensnared in serve loud, sinister web with dire consequences for the duo to come. Banjul and Sudafed or I would like to invite you to my calm bound in north antero just do hundred miles north of the city of Toronto. As you know, I purchased the publishing. Two of your copyrights and I am curious to know if you would have more songs, which could be commercially exploited. I intend to give you an opportunity which could enrich all parties. If. You've never been to Canada and you're in or a real treat. My man sort of slash personal secretary and business. Confidant Rodolfo will greet you and accompany you on the journey. Once you cross the border. At Wolf large my compound. We have amazing food and spirits that would make any common person salivate. On wine is delicious. You are more than welcome to spend the night after lunch and we can have discussions about your future, this state of the music business and your hopes and your dreams. Piece. Let me know if you accept. This invitation. Intentionally Yours. Sir Flat. An invite from serve. Vlade was not a favor, but a command to turn him down on was to put your life and career imperil known to collect and hord copyrights of music. for which he saw promise. He summoned Barron Banjo to his remote Kenyan layer known has wolf lodge. Not, only did he keep meticulous records of beatings throughout his career, but he also had dictation device for all of his correspondences to be later transcribed. Sir Lod was a paranoid man. Every interaction was a possible moment of leverage to later be used as blackmail his invite cheese, none the wiser. The Canadian Museum of recorded technology has hundreds of hours of archives that are organized effectively enough for us to pinpoint this era of time allowing us to reconstruct this key moment using their own words. The invitation. North Woodland on June seventeenth, nineteen, sixty, one, which also happened to be the seventy seven, th birthday of Sir Gregson blood the third. Roberto and Banjo his gift to himself. I want to a one two three four. Tension. Off. You're listening to a song called intentions by Ser Vlade. The song made waves when it came out at the height of the player Piano era in nineteen, twenty six, just before the ubiquity of the phonograph and records would replace sheet music as the pre recorded scrolls that player pianos operated upon as the dominant force in music through my research I was able to find the foremost expert on the history of the player Piano Otto von Right from the University of Leipzig in Germany. A piano also known as Pierre. NOLA is self playing piano containing in. Or electromechanical mechanisms that operates the piano except via Po, clamped music recorded on perfectly paper or in the instances metallic. Device of play. Piano Couva Surveys of semes- produce piano for the home. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, sales peaked in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thousand, four send declined. Movement in phonograph Catholic according to to electrical recording message developed intimate, one thousand nine hundred s advent of electrical amplification in home music reproduction via radio in the same period helped cause eventual decline in popularity and the stock market crash of one, thousand, nine, hundred, thousand, nine virtually wiped out production. The Jazz Age in urgency of the roaring twenties. It's need for speakeasy. Entertainment made Sir Vlad into. Many times over. And probably a billionaire by today's standards. He controlled production and sales of the piano row. Those perforated scrolls paper that operated the player piano now. Do his company. Vocal style. The final piece of served twelve came from what was known then as the reproducing piano. These were piano rolls, consisting of the Lai performance of famous musicians from there. In the nineteen twenties earlier served Vlad through vocal style control some seventy five percent of the marketplace. Some of the more renowned musicians included jelly. Roll Morton Fats Waller George Gershwin Gustav Mahler Scott Joplin. Less Copeland Blind Boone and countless others. Serve glad was known for his ruthless accounting practices for musician data their role. Also rumored that a deal may was served. Lad was a deal with the devil. To, San with him was designed to weigh yourself. In the parlance of serial killer profiler. The man was a collector. Or is he wants to March. I, don't know music. Oh, musicians, body, and mind under contract. They are mine. In the summer of Nineteen sixty-one bear and Banjo had all but exhausted their career. We've chronicled their various attempts both legal and illegal artistic and crafts to breakthrough in any meaningful way. It appears that there impact was felt more from the artists. They encountered then from any music they themselves made. It's as if they themselves possess genie like powers to make others famous while they themselves toil in obscurity. By the time they received the letter from serve lied on that Fateful Day in June of nineteen, sixty one. They grown, but desperate unbeknownst to anyone at the time. Save for perhaps SURV- Lod. Banjo had had a string of bad luck that range from extensive gambling debts owed to various organized crime figures, plus he was being hounded by various figures in the upper echelon of the intelligence community to continue his recording work for them. Finally and perhaps most frightening all due to his own evil in vindictive nature America's top lawman J. Edgar. Hoover was making it his business to personally destroy Banjo after he split on his agreement to work for hoover, bugging, celebrities and politicians in Hollywood. If it were not for the tapes in his possession, he may have already been either incarcerated or worse, he believed that one more big score, but allow him to pay off the mob been disappear and begin life anew under an assumed name, perhaps allowing he. To restart their music career under new names free of the scandal and stigma of the past. If it sounds farfetched. It's because it is desperate. Ben Can convince themselves of Damn near anything if they believe will solve their problems in the here and now Sir Vlad it seems came to them at a moment of great need. Just when they needed to break the most, he would refer to the simply as leverage all for and Banjo fate had to intervene to give them one more bite of the apple. And so here we are again another shadowy figure with dark past further obfuscating any real facts for us to tie together the career of bear and J, Banjo. The fact that they're only official. Contractual business dealings were with this elusive shadowy figure is yet another mystery for us to uncover UC after baby dance and me and my Banjo were mile novelty records serve lads sought out the publishing and bought them. How he found these songs and why he wanted them is unclear. Somehow? Though he knew of Banjos problems and also understood what motivated both of them. The man was a puppet master on many levels despite his penchant for secrecy serve. Vlade was meticulous about his records, journals and notes and correspondences. He had a henchman slash personal secretary, who kept all of serve lauds information rigorously filed noted in archived in Typical Forum for the henchman of an evil genius. He went by the senior name of Rodolfo. We base much of the following episode from these files and recordings. After receiving a letter of vacation to join him at Wolf Lodge Barron Banjo naively assumed that somebody no matter how obscure had finally recognized their talent, and they would finally get there do. The EGO can blind a man from the truth and once again it would prove to be their undoing. An it career at GD means owning the opportunity to play a crucial role in transforming how agencies operate join Gd it for challenging and impactful work that advances your career apply now at GD dot com slash careers ged's opportunity. After all you've been through the class of twenty twenty deserves a proper sendoff, which is why Iheartradio Doritos brings you commencement the podcast featuring speeches and dedications icons. We admire most here from Halsey since we were little kids, we've shown the world while we can be sold a lot of things. 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However Barron Banjo seemed to recognize a blues musician known as the Hawk. He was a grisly Canadian performer, and as he was working the ramshackle stage, playing rock and roll music. He recognized the duo as well. Ronnie Hawkins better known as how was a staple of the Canadian honky-tonk. and his backing band better known as the band later rise to infamy as they join with Bob Dylan to take him electric. How would later appear in March? Course as he's found the last waltz and take his place as the man who started the band. Patricia success had always eluded the heart. And became known for his ability to toil in Obscurity I. The hulk himself wants Mart I'm the king of the smalltime boys. My First Professional Gig was in nineteen, fifty. Two competition was a little rough money was little. Scarce in our music was lows for music bear was. Is just a fad for kids. People would say would only last a month or two. They would add the stop saying that though pretty quick. Plan out loud. Awful noise terrified folk seven nights a week. The road was hard ground in one hundred thousand miles a year on that double yellow line, a barely had enough under feed myself much less sleep in hotel. So when I did close my eyes. It was the back seat of my car when I needed. Gas I just pulled out my own. Credit Card. What's in Arkansas credit card. You know take a rubber hose, and we'll five gallon cancer dot. Gasman, the folks tanks. Rock, and roll, Blair in his, though JAP leaps. All the time Belgian up the gas fumes on stage I can shoot a mean. Fireball with that was left in my mouth. Mis Kiss. I was doing that stuff. Nearly Fifteen Gene Simmons was still eating. Who said his daddy's Cable and The Hawk recalled beating the mysterious dual and imparted some honky-tonk advice to. I said. Where are you all going? You haven't. Trying to make some deal happen. Watchers great I said you don't WanNa be pirates all the Goddamn time. Me and live. You can choose to be a firm. Or pirate. I. Know You've both been pirates and the parallel agrees with you all for the most part. But the thing with pirates is that they go around? The World Harp people. They rob people they steal. They bury their treasure, and it's really hard to locate that treasure after you've moved on to other quarter maps, and what not aren't as reliable as banks or Grain Silos. Farmers though. A square plot of land they tend to the land, and they'd take care of everything on their plot. They form and use the resources from the land accordingly. They feed their family. They don't want more in Milan can provide and farmers often live a lot longer than pirates. You know let's chance. Mutinies and murders and I've never heard of a former walking the plank man. So you gotta ask yourself when you won't be a farmer. Or a pirate. I can tell you guys. You guys are a bunch of pirates man. I said that's all from me. I like drinking with pirates, but I would never want to be one. Now I. Don't know what my actual point was, and telling them all this, but I had a Hans. They were at A. So to speak. With their cryptic advice in hand, bear and Jay Banjo proceeded to get very very inebriated with the hawk. They drink until they could drink no more than they drank. Some more Rodolfo was worried. The do would be in no shape for a meeting with such important intent the following day however right is rain. They woke up fresh as a daisy and ready for the day ahead. The duo finally arrived at Wolf, Lodge. It resemble. Nothing lasts a castle from Transylvania in our country. Recently picture, the proper posted online my southern Israel. who were selling the property on behalf of twenty-six-year-old APP developer billionaire? He don't property for only three days when he's discovered in his underwear on the nearest access road, literally running for his life and screaming at two am. He's picked by the local place who determine his terrified of something in home and then released refusing to return to wolf lodge ever again. Thus for the first time, the public's getting a glimpse of this baroque interior. Thanks to the photographs posted. We can see where they met. which was the main dining room? It's decor quite simply betrayed the inner mind if a madman. The Room was dark save for the presence of a massive candle chandelier. Outside of the room were massive oil paintings, depicting five hundred years of lauds bloodline. Various weapons from swords to mace knives and guns were mounted on walls along with full sets of armor standing at attention like night finally, a massive fireplace roared, and it's gigantic. Mental rested a series of skulls in class cases. Why they were, there remained a mystery to be answered later. Recordings from the Vlade Archives do the rest. Thank for happiness. This is a hell of a place I hope you won't think me rude if we skip the pleasantries and get right down to business, time is precious and I wouldn't want to waste yours or mine. Therein, Banjo were folks felt like to get down to business. So this was music to their proverbial years, plus they were very hung over the quicker they got this out of the way, the quicker they could start drinking again and offset the effects of the previous evening. They spoke for several hours about everything that Vlade Hen. His publishing business vocal style could do for the duo. They, of course, knew absolutely nothing about this man's past, or what he was capable of until later in the meal when he would slowly dawn on them that they were sitting in the presence of a lunatic intent on doing them harm. I, don't suppose you've heard of to Saad lateral Kabul. It was a famous beaver pelt trader and when I was young, it took me under his wing. Thought me everything. He knew about shipping trade routes. But the most important thing I learned was that in any business whether it's beaver, pelts or music the? Innovation and at some point. You have to take the humans out of it, or we are all just hamsters on we. Missed, the Banjo I'm curious you consider yourself a hamster more like squirrel. Catch my drift. Your. Joking I like that. I appreciate good humor, Mister Banjo. Where would we be without wit. I shall rephrase my question. Do you want to spend on the. Or do you want more than had? More I guess absolutely more I'm glad to hear it because we are now at the dawn of a new era in the music business. He's no longer about the songs. It's about the distribution. What if I told you that I could make it so that your music was third both far and wide to the ends of the Earth. I'd say I was interested Barron I've been trying to figure out some kind of thing forever in the future music will be fed to audiences. convalesced patterson eating through a straw. All the flavors will be the Asians of itself, and they was sucked down whatever masticated. Google we feed them well. Bear and I got not a song. That's for sure if you want here. Few got my Banjo here. Bears are wound up and ready to go. Let me be clear. The songs themselves do not matter. Answer me this. Do! You want to make money. where? This is about inventory and verticality. Your music is constructed. Amuse and it fits within my model. That's it. Play! Don't play. It makes no difference to me. The model the Algorithm as my scientists call. It is never wrong. Like I can sit here with a smile on my face and up to Os whilst you strom out a little ditty, perhaps after we have something tweet is will make more sense share. Let's see full stomach concentrated mind right there. Something like that I suppose when I was young. Exploring the trade routes I had one of the most delicious experiences. Of My life. I ate the Georgia Peach. It's not every day that they son of a Canadian firth rubber. Guests to eat delicious Georgia Peach. As I get old. Every time I have a sumptuous stake. I think to myself. Wouldn't this be even better? With a beach. It's amazing. What sensations stay with you? Yeah, I, like a good peach sure when I took wolf. Lodge from my father. All with items land were pine trees and Cedar. But I, wanted beaches. The agriculture told me we're too far north to grow the fruit. That's what I wanted was not not to our environment. So I I always do in these situations. I bent nature to my will, and brought forth my food as if ordained by God himself. I changed the ecosystem of the soil. And planted my own Georgia peach trees. With enough money. And raw determination. Anything is possible. So, what would you will into being Mister Banjo on? Fame. Fortune. Freedom for yourself and Mr Bear. I'm sorry, Alaska. I don't know about peach, trees and whatnot but yet. Fame fortune all that stuff's good I'm talking about Mr, Poncho and having the wheel to rise to that moment and sees it, then you're. Just like these speech moldy. Taiwan. Rudolfo bring me a page for mister. Banjo and his friend. Mr Bear. In Quantum, tweet this beach and taste or test. Actually, if I'm being totally honest, I don't care much peaches. Our strategy polite before not really big on sweet things. Generally that'd be no from me to I'm just GONNA cut off a little piece here. Is this your stake I promise you're going to love it. It's so juicy. I don't know how else to say this, but I'm not putting in my mouth I. DON'T WANNA eat peach. History is hard to make and sometimes if you miss a beat. History Mrs. You. Being, a real part of history is like being a superhero. Artists like the Beatles Bob Dylan's or if you need contemporary references, the conyers or the beyond says they give up any opportunity afforded in life or being normal in exchange to receive access to all the ideas and audience of the universe. Sometimes it takes one person to give them this access a Brian Epstein a scooter Braun, or some little devil may appear just the right time and offer a taste. A bite of Peach. Everyone wants it. But if you had this opportunity, a real chance, open the universe. Would you take juicy bite, or would you say no way? I'm not eating that. Pass on access to it all pass on infant, adoration and wealth. Would you try just a little longer to go it alone, or would you put aside your pride and self worth and just sink your teeth in. You're going to put a lot of things in your mouth that you don't like in this life. What's wrong with trying my beaches if we'd have to be partners? I need to know we have trust. Now Open why I don't know how to say this, but I'm not putting that in my mouth, I don't WanNa eat peach I'm certainly not allowing you to fee like baby, no offense, but that's just weird. Sir Look Man came out of a sentence. How about forget about the peaches and we play you a couple of dams avenue. In a bizarre dominant serve Lod was testing to see how determined to do war to comply with his demands. Perhaps. This would indicate how much they would compromise down. The line wouldn't real money was on the line. Jay Banjo. Who was being affable and trying to sort out the CON here? There was having none of it. No one was forced feeding bear and further to that bear openly said to Banjo you so much as put their goddamn peach in your mouth, and I'll make sure you come to regret it. Come. Back, let's let's sing. Forget the each. Let's let's things themselves up at that. This irritated Sir blood. Both of you. You unsalted me in my home. I offer you the gift the fruit you eat it fruit. Full Stop. I like beaches with my steak and I'm trying to share this beloved ritual. Why do you speak in the face of my guests? Listen Man. This isn't complicated. We simply don't WanNA eat your peaches. Understand. This about Mister Banjo myself our entire career. We've done things the hard way you have. No idea places. We've been compromises. We made death and failure of heartless from the beginning. We've been face to face with forces much bigger and more terrifying to you and we're having backed down yet and I'm not about to start now. Allow me to tell you a story. As! You know I'm an old man seventy seventy. In fact today is my birth. Well, Golly! Gee, Happy Birthday! You don't need to bother with that mouse on. These dinner and our business dealings are over. You've offended me in my home. Now decided that I can no longer trust you. which is such a shame? I was going to make you both. Went the men. Beyond your wildest dreams. Now up to hold on hold on I. Know You need the money Mr Joel? Desperately. I know all about your debts to various figures organized crime. Nasty business with dangerous people whose patients surely ran out long ago. But that's nothing compared to the wrath of Mr Hoover is. How long until he catches up with you. Know about all of. Your scrape with the Anglo prison system. That was a close one was. How many states are you boys fugitives exactly. Suitcase for money. Money's long gone, and they get a lack that no longer runs. The Talk Boys Doc. You've been awfully lucky up to now, but you're kind of luck always runs out eventually. Serve that we have no idea what you're talking about. I'm offended where just a couple of musicians nothing more. Rodolfo please. Bring out that reel to reel player with the tapes. We were sent from Mr who. Please play the tape. This is Jay Banjo on October eleventh. Nineteen fifty four. I have now sitting inside the bedroom of one John Zarrella of the Los Angeles arm of the Chicago mob. I haven't stopped bugs in the person's bedroom. Be Room, kitchen and Tamiflu. Oh my God. It's too late for God. Mister Banjo. You can't help you. If you want to pray for help. Pray to me. Mr Rosselli if he were to find out about those bugs. What do you think he would do to you? It is my understanding from J. Edgar that he fully intends to tell him. Would you like me? To call in a favor. You could do that, I do most anything for my friends Mr Banjul. How are you my friend? Yes, you are my friend. I am not so sure we are friends Mr Banjo. Friends don't refuse hospitality. Friends don't insult their hosts. Are! We talk about the Goddamn again. Chiefs H Christ Fi Gimme a by. This is such a big deal I'll try to impeach. You're worse than my fourth ex wife. Happy, now trust me on. I'm chewing. Wait Oh, oh, wow this. This is good. Banjo my clothes. We talked about the. Just so good! You should try some no thanks. You would like Banjo. And now that we are friends again. I would like to tell you a story about that beach. Okay. Look out that window. You see that three standing there a Tallin strong. That is a peach tree. And it is fortified with the blood of my ancestors. What You See. Many years ago. When I was just boy no more than nine years old. My dear mother was murdered. By my father. And the very seat. In which you are now sitting. I sit where my father set before he sprang to his feet and plunged a knife into her heart. Mr Bear sits what I said as a boy. Watching it all happen, my dear mother! Emotionless. Blood pouring from her lifeless body, while her head rested on the table at the very spot where you've state no seats. My father then ordered me to take my mother outside and Betty. Her beneath the peachtree. But I. Demanded that they remove her head. It was a test he said of my. And Obedience. So I obeyed and cut off my own. Mother's. My father then set it above the fireplace. Well I went outside to deal with the rest of heart. That's weird seeks months later in New Orleans. And I. had been traveling, you see. And he took me to the harbor. or the tall ships docked. Brought me onto a large Moroccan. Tile ship led me below deck. And then slit my throat, leaving me to die in a pool of my own blind. Remember him standing above me chanting. Death to you, my son. To You my son. He was at all of course. He wasn't immortal and I wasn't dead despite his best efforts. I survived. I learned I bought it for eight long years. If you worked in the music as you might start to understand why sir? Gregson blad was so impeccably suited to work in this ruthless of industries, he was figuratively and literally. Cut through. Finally I return to Wolf Lodge on my seventeenth birthday. Sixty years ago today. and. I found my father. Now an old man. Sitting in the very seat that I know seat. I walked in and he looked up. He did not recognize me. Bother! It's me flat. It. Impossible if ISP. But then I showed him the scar across my throat, and I could see the recognition his eyes. And then the feel. Forgive me if his bird. I had been dreaming of this day. For Eight, long years. I pulled out the Michetti from the overcoat I was wearing in top of his. Green and pleaded for his life. And topped off his legs finally I removed. Just like he had done to my mother. The meant. Next two ours. Just in case you were wondering what those skulls were that? Sit in the Glass Case Dad I took what remained of my father and buried him right next to my mother. In the year that followed the peaches that grew from their blood were bigger and more flavorful than any page. I, on my father this week. For his blood sacrifice. For making me into the man I am today every time I eat up each. Now. Mister Banjo. You have eaten from the very seemed three. You have feasted on the blood. Of My ancestors. We are now. Let us I think. 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The next morning there was no mention of any record deals or future takeovers. The duo simply pack. Their bags had said farewell. They all agreed. They would be in touch soon. They made their way back to the Canadian border and started heading towards New York City Rudolfo would accompany them on the last leg of the voyage. It would have been rude to invite the dual all the way up here and not give them a right back. They were somewhat confused as to why they even made the journey in the first place. The evening had been awful terrifying in fact, but serve Lod seamless a terror than downright insane. Those stories about heads and blood in Vlad. The impaler were obviously bullshit. He was just trying to scare them phased. They spend one more night at the pub and once more bumped into the hawk. Drive back to Toronto with very quiet, Banjo and CEO word there, but they were fiddling around with their instruments working on something. Watching them work was quite fascinating. There would communicate with each other in a sort of telepathic way by the time we got back to the your. Popped into a tavern for some spirits and food bar owner of recognize them from passing through the day before, and notice their instruments and ask them to play. Barron Banjo hopped on stage and played beautifully like they've been practicing for this GIG for weeks. Afterwards they decamped with their friend Ronnie Hawkins from their referred to as the hawk. What are the guys seem shook man I, told him man. You gotTa keep your spirits high. WE'RE GONNA make it down that road. Told them all about the differences between careers and reputations. I wanted a reputation. Not a career careers come and go reputations. They last forever, man. No one really knows how long career will as told them that I. don't WanNa be like Elvis and I. Don't want to deliver it songs all the time. I WANNA party man. I WanNa live a good life. gave him a tip. 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You could sure as hell predict they would have blisters on their paws right quick. With a new goal in mind, they knew how they could get down to New Orleans. Maybe even be paid to do so. It was settled. They would be headed down to New Orleans to track down this mystery sound before they took off back down south, they hit the stage and apparently brought down the house with the Hawk jamming along beside them. When I got back to my employer, so one of the staff from the kitchen that the Peach Banjo was thought to have consumed at the hands of my employer spit out in a Napkin on the floor. It is served labs opinion that went offered the peach. One will always to swallow hope, it's the law. Mutual reciprocation, and all humans are somewhat programmed. Give once they receive a gesture. That Jay. Ben Joined the bear. Are Strong, will and intent on doing things their own way. 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SMAC255 Baron Pilot

Stuck Mic AvCast – An Aviation Podcast About Learning to Fly, Living to Fly, & Loving to Fly

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SMAC255 Baron Pilot

"Asian podcast is presented as entertainment not flight instruction though some participants are certified flight instructors, their comments, opinions, discussions of flying techniques are there's alone none of the CO hosts or guests on this podcast acting as your flight instructor please consult your own. CFI. For instance on your specific Flight Training Aeronautical Knowledge and aircraft operation. This is the stuck Mike ABC cast and aviation podcast about learning to fly living to fly and loving to fly. Welcome to episode two, Fifty, five joining us today is Darren Pie out of youtube fame. Before we get started, we just have a couple of quick word from our sponsor, our sponsors, aviation careers podcast, and of course, they have the largest online directory of scholarships there. So go check them out hundred, twenty, million dollars in scholarships, and by the way might be able to get one for free for all types of flying whether you're just getting your private, your instrument for recreation etc views a coupon code, pay it forward all one word. You actually may get a scholarship for free we're really excited about. That growth of the scholarships guy. We've been doing it for many years there at Aviation Kerr's podcast, our sister podcast and It's been almost monthly that here about somebody who's been able to use the money to get a rating. So it really is promoting generalization and also careers also before we begin and before introduced our guest, I have a big announcement something that I'm really excited about as you know I'm Co Chair of Sunan Fund radio and the live announcing there we have event coming up. I know everybody's been stuck inside and we really want to get out there and check out. and. Listen to some fly bys and and one of the things that we love about Sunan fine and ace there space center for excellence as they do so much for our people that are looking at careers and also the people that are looking to get into aviation for recreation and promote this industry, and we do that through scholarships also at Sun Event and all the different. Programs there on campus. But this event is going to be this son and Fund Holiday Flying Festival, and car show. So if you're interested in cars and have a lot of cars at the event plus a balloon launch, etc, it's going to be Friday December. Fourth GonNa Start at one PM and go to seven PM and then on Saturday December fifth from nine am to four PM. You, know one of the things I'm really excited about with US event is the fact that on Saturday December fifth at ten A. M, we're GONNA, have a general aviation townhall meeting in WHO's GonNa be there well, it's GonNa be as President CEO John Lights, Lean House of course, and then ao PA president and CEO Mark, Baker who was instrumental in putting this whole show together also, and then EA president and CEO and board. Chairman Jack Pelton so really really excited to have all those folks there. If you get a chance look at fly S. Dot Org for more information about that because we're GONNA we're GonNa do all sorts of different cool events like you know the the morning glow from all the different balloons maybe some fireworks it's all coming together. So please check it out and I hope to see all of you there now entering crew's flight. Today I have with somebody who is very inspirational. It does come to General Aviation and general aviation flying, and it is barren pilot and welcome to the show I. Really appreciate your coming to you today. Thank you very much. Great to be here I'm honored to even be invited on here, but I don't know how I top after that that announcement it's Kinda deflated the show you went from a great thing about sudden fund to analysis Barron pilot area. Boy. I tell you people like you that are involved in the show at Sunan Fund that really make it. It's those people that are passionate in are showing their passion and promoting GE that really are the people we want to promote and and we all love aviation is just so much fun. You know also joining us today as one of our co host that's Bill English bill. Welcome to the show again bill. Hey, great to be back. Up here in falls kicking it up here in Virginia Oh that's right. You're up north. We got together the other day. So no Avocados I guess. To go back to the Avocado ranch soon, and by the way they were very good and also by the way a shout out to our friends at fly Maui for those wonderful golden pineapples. Bill and I I'm sorry Bill I didn't actually share those with the. I forgot. My homegrown Avocados at you out of the pineapples will. Next time we'll. We'll put that together, but we're hoping to have a show their over on Maui but. But Anyway get getting back to our friends here. At. First of all one of the things that I I really actually love about Barron pilot and the Youtube Channel I have to say is that you can tell by what you do and when you're in the airplane, you really enjoy it and that's so cool and so I want to talk a little bit about your flying life and why you're so passionate about aviation. Well. What's not to love about aviation I mean it's something that I think most of US inherently have have gone from the time we were born to being a little boy or girl looking up to the sky senior planes in and being a just in awe of this thing that is fine over us which or says an airplane so I know my self from the time I was a little bored in elementary school. All I ever wanted to do was fly. It's my dream it was my passion and it was something that I just had to find a way to do and unfortunately you know life. than. Make it easy path but it was one of those things that when it's your passion, it's it's nothing's going to stop you. And as far as not stopping, you've actually made it to a great career in aviation and you've also because of that career been able to. Do something a lot of people dream of, and that's by yourself a beautiful twin engine aircraft and one of the things that's great about you because is the fact that you share that you share that with US online but boy. That's not an easy task I know we all look at the video and say, boy, you know that's you know you were critical I couldn't get a better angle here at Cetera but I'm sure this took quite a few years put together. So tell us a little bit about that path. Sure. well I I have a slight advantage in the fact that my background is actually TV production. So one I'm not flying my day job and I do mean other because unfortunately or fortunately, and unfortunately in pilot is a fulltime job in of itself but when I'm not doing that my day job is TV production. So I have a little background in TV production and so some of the. Stuff Kinda came to me naturally from a production standpoint and so just kind of combine the two things I love aviation and and then my background with TV, production and started putting up videos and to be honest I didn't think Barron pilot was going to be anything other than Just me thrown up some videos here and there and some people watching it if I had any idea part would have come up with a more marketable generic name than Barron pilot but But I'm honored and flattered that you know people sort of watching it and as the channel grew I remember hitting five hundred subscribers and and thinking I won the lottery I mean it just was an Inspiring that five hundred people actually hit that that would subscribe button and follow my channel and I was just. In awe and then force channel is. But I. Think the channel has a life of its own. You know I'm just I'm. The lucky one to be able to be part of the channel even though it's my channel I'm the lucky one because it's not about me it's never been about me. It's also one of the reasons why I didn't name the channel after me because it's about aviation and try to keep it of all aviation and my passionate love for it and I try to share it. So when you do share it, it's most of the these trips and and going places and one of the things I really like about it is that it's it's teachable in other words I'll actually tell people to go check out some of the segments because some of the things you've done for instance. Writing clearance down how to fly somewhere is that what you intend it or did you intended just to be about flying around? So one, the channel started it was just about flying. Just flying in general, it was more about just promoting the. Pronunciation in general just getting people to to see I figured initially I thought I would just people who are into aviation would watch it. I. Didn't really think that anyone who wanted to be I would watch. I. Didn't think anyone who is learning would watch it. I figured okay. You've got to be an avid geek like myself to watch it. And as the channel has grown, and as I try to interact with anybody who makes a common I try to interact with them. Anyone who sends a message on Instagram on Beech Baron Pilot I respond to them sumit's a question, just a blanket statement and and I try to get involved and I've learned that there is a good majority of people that watched the channel that are pilots. Some will never be in pilots the just like. And some inspired to be summer in training some are beyond their flying years. So it's the entire spectrum in and I'm always surprised I'm an audit and surprised by daily but because of that that channel has evolved and is continuing to evolve Barron pilots yet. Figured out exactly who and what it is other than trying to be. A sense of inspiration for everyone and whatever that that entails for each individual person. You said that people watch us that aren't pilots. Do you do you know why they watch that as far as the non pilot individuals? I th-. Well I think it goes back to the same thing. It's that You know one one we're a child when we were children we looked at aviation we looked at airplanes and it was something that we always wanted to do There was a mystique about it. Right there's always been a mystique about aviation from the. You know back in the Golden Ages of flying you know the pilots were these these mainly men and and it was a different kind of manly man. It wasn't the you know I'm going to chop down would mainly man but you know they brought something different and. And so I. think There's still that still exists. It's not quite the same as the golden golden age of flying but Yeah. But you know youtube is partially being flattened TV and technology and everything else because the mystery has gone but for most of us I think. Even those who don't fly it's still a bit of Of glamorous I guess. So to speak, it's sort of that mystique. It's something that I think even those who who can't ever do it for whatever reason still are inspired by. It's actually still pretty even though we can see inside it's still pretty magical I think. I get an Air I don't even know how things are going to take off on the. Glad it does. It eventually, he's GonNa Bring me back to the ground so. As how many how many years have you been flying? Oh Gosh I started flying in the early nineties so I don't want to date myself too much but. I've been flying a long time and you still like it. I love it. There is nothing I love more than aviation. It is. It is my passion. I once made a comment to somebody. Flying is not what I do. It's who I am and and that's when I said I just kind of said it in a statement and they stopped me and me repeat it and I realized it's one hundred percent. It's who I just talking about. You know this isn't a podcast but I literally get chills from talking about evasion and if I could make a career out of just promoting aviation I would be living my dream. Well. You are kind of doing that and you're living your dreams. And by promoting aviation, which is so wonderful. But you know there's something I. Think we all look at in aviation. There's maybe one or two things that we look towards. That is really truly the thing that we love the most is there one thing that you could say about flying if you were to think about if you had as one thing and said, this is what I like the most it's the worthy engines what might that be? Tough question. For Me Aviation is an escape. taught and from the first day of learning to fly and you get into the books one of the things they were talking about is you know self evaluation right is always the I'm safe in one of the things we talk about an I'm safe is if you're going through troubles in life and stress and and all these different things that you shouldn't fly and I one hundred percent agree with that I. do not advocate anything different. With that being said, the minute my wheels come off the ground. What ever problems I have in my life stay behind me on the ground. It is my escape from a life. It is my escape from stress. It is my scape from reality I am up with the birds flying I am looking down I'm. I'm in all of the fact that here I am a, you know to this day. I mean I've been flying since nine days and I will catch myself all the time looking out the window looking down going I cannot believe I, am here I am doing this and I don't know it's just it's The best way I can explain it to people who who don't fly is if you've ever gone to Disney's Epcot Center and when you're on the globe and and I feel what that space globe is called but and there's that moment where the ride takes you and you can just look down on see all the city lights down below that feeling that you get for split-second second take that magnify. And that's for me what I feel every day when I get everyone. That's a great description. You one of the great parts about aviation is that escapism it's leaving your problems behind i. think that's why a lot of people get into that but has there ever been a time where you felt you couldn't leave you know the ground behind him said yourself Gosh I don't think I should fly today. I'm I'm sure. I'm very OCD. I'm very you know. Very OCD and especially if I have passengers. The minute I have a passenger with me. Already my safety standards whatever it is typically gets increased tenfold. No matter who the Bashar is. But even more. So if it if it's a loved one and so I'm sure there's been times I can't think of a time in particular or like no, I'm just not up for it But with that being said, you know I'm sure if. You know. I wouldn't go out at night to certain things I wouldn't do prior to flying. So I kind of by my lifestyle in general prevents a lot of that as well. So I'm sure I'm sure that has been there has been. I'm sure that's reflected through the Youtube. Channel, and there's Times at as pilots we need to say we can't go. Is that? Is there examples within baron pay it on Youtube or you've actually had to say I can't go and I can't fly today or as Everyti- every video you're going is there any of those episodes where we can go through that whole decision making process that you go through before you go up in the air I haven't done it's it's funny because it's one of those things that I wanted to do I've had a lot people ask me about doing. Videos. WERE THEY WANNA see preflight they wanNA know what I? The planning goes into it. I haven't done those videos yet mainly because I'm trying to figure out in my mind this is where. We back. I've never put out a single pilot video that I've ever liked. I am way way too particular I judge my videos and I trust me. If you've read any of my comments, I have plenty of people that love to tear my videos apart. But any Kerdyk any critique I received I promise you I've critiqued it works. So with that being said I've. Trying to figure out a way that I can do it in an entertaining fashion that I don't necessarily eliminate a whole segment of the population by by showing that. But and as soon as I figure out a way to do it and it's definitely on my top five list of videos that I intend to make I just haven't done it for the main reason of wanting to do it but I've had. A flight. actually I didn't video. I had one where I ended up. Having to divert and because of weather and you know, wait sit out on unfortunately I don't video every flight take country they're popular belief. So. Often. The things that happened happened know the one time you don't record something but. You always have that camera available and it's always bad when the you know there's a new battery. Have you ever had that happen. Don't. Yes. People ask why have so many cameras people ask why do things everything I do is for a reason, nothing is by chance. And Yeah I've had some of the some of my best lights were all of a sudden I land I look over at the camera and it's it's it's dead and you're like, are you kidding the I just shot I less approach down the minimums I just had this happened I just had. You know had an airspeed indicator. to clogged and I had no airspeed indicator and I've got no footage of it. I had an aborted takeoff I've got no footage of it Yeah you know it's it's one of those things as Murphy's law anything that can go wrong can. And I would in the beginning, I'd say in the beginning of Barron pilots infancy I probably lost more flights than I was actually able to edit. New To some sort of technical problem. But you kept the airplane and that's important and. The name Barron Pie, there's a key part to this, and that's the baron and one of the things that I I'd love to hear from you and I'm sure our listeners would why the Baron You want to real answer or do you want me to give you glorious answer? Let's Let's do that. So, why the baron to be one hundred percent? Honest. I wasn't looking for baron. I wasn't even necessarily looking for a twin engine at the time that I bought the baron I used to own a mooning at a. m twenty m twenty J that I absolutely loved love love luxury ran into it not that long ago. It was really cool to an airport and I saw the plane taxi buying Iran after it was actually the guy sold into still owned it So I was looking for another Mooney I was actually looking for a turbocharged version, my old money which Antonio J I was looking for like a K. Model living in Florida I want something to get above the weather. And in my search buddy of mine said. Hey. I know a guy who has a that He's looking. Selah hasn't put on the market you can probably steal it. All. You know we had a dollar for every time. We can still something we would need to steal anything because we would be full of money, right? So I'm again sure whatever the. Long Story Short 'cause we. Limited time. I ended up flying up to Schenectady New York, which is where they were playing was. sought. Took a flight in it and turn to the guy who is selling the airplane, and this was my pre by I don't recommend this either I said all right Will you get near playing with me and we will fly back to? Florida. And he said yes and I go okay. Let's go and we flew back to Florida and I ended up buying the airplane and that's how I ended up with the baron and with that being said though now that I have a bearing because remember I was a moon I right so mooney and bonanza well, that's you know Chevy and forward there So with that being said having owned a beechcraft. Now, five years I definitely see and understand why there is such a passion for for Beechcraft, airplanes and I and I'm. A believer I the beach like you know hence the. I wear a hat and I have merchandise in reach life because it's it's definitely a way of life and the the quality that goes into beechcraft products I. think is really second to none I. Mean it was definitely an over design airplane back in the day when they designed it and and so I love it. Now that I've taken that route and it took Archie had somebody else the other day y a a baron and not oh, three ten. And I haven't answered that that. person yet because I didn't want my answer to come across negative in any way because I'm not I'm not listen I don't care what you own. If you own an ultralight, you're flying urine elite club you welcome to the boys club, right? Like there is no mine is better than yours. I. Don't care if you know g six or a, you know a plane to me they're in the same category. They served emissions, but the same category. but so I didn't know how to answer. Other than. To say that once you've experienced beechcraft quality it's hard to go anywhere else and I think the quality of each graph is is really the Piston World second-to-none and I own three times out of body mind just he owned a duke actually owned a Baron Duke Borrow three twenty. And just sold the three twenty went back to a duke and he basically his response to me was Oh. My Gosh it feels so good to be back in h growth. You know the Duke Looks Fast on the ground beechcraft is a wonderful product. We hear a lot about fit and finish on a beechcraft I. Mean They are second on I feel. But how about the other things I mean you talk so much about the beechcraft quality it's it's not just the the economics. There's so much more. You talked about over engineering give us an example of some of those things. I think it just comes down to you know. The way it feels when when you're flying the aircraft it, the solid feel that you get you go from one beach and it doesn't matter the airplane right? I mean you go from from a bonanza to to a baron to two duke it they all feel the same I mean you can if you can fly one and without getting technical. Yes I understand there's different training. So disclaimer, right. But if you can fly one, you're gonNA have that same feeling and comfort in the other once you get past learning the systems and perhaps at different speeds and knowing the things that we need to know as pilots but once you get past that They they have this this uniform. and. which you know which I think is pretty unique to the beechcraft line. I mean I can file a Cessna one, seventy, two, I promise you I get into. Flown I learned to fly incessant one fifty then went to one, seventy two and then flew or three ten. There, it wasn't a transition I. Mean it didn't. It wasn't a natural transition phrase. So it's Kinda, like the Airbus Boeing or the Gulfstream candidate or kind of thing and. You get into one. They're very similar and and and one of the things that I think is important. I. Feel and I'd like to hear your comment on. This is joining a group possibly that knows a lot about beechcraft. It's good to to actually be in the same audience and the same areas as people that have ownership is that something that you do or did you do when you first owned a beechcraft? First thing? I. Did before I even picked up my baron is I. The two things. One is I joined a beach talk which is a a form, the largest aviation form of to my understanding but in general and specifically. It's predominantly I should say you know a beechcraft. Form. And so I was the first thing I did and the wealth of knowledge there is is a maze in like any form like any news outlet you know or anything else. You've always got to wait through stuff but the the array of information I mean the the knowledge and experience a second to none and to to push that aside would only be hurting yourself, and then the second thing I did was I joined the Bonanza Society I'm because again another outlet of information and knowledge and and. All these things have a level of family especially the Bonanza Society. You know once you join if you go to any of the meetings or you know I, tend attend their dinners every year. At oshkosh and I'll I'm in a room with you know five hundred other people have never met before my life and they're all my best friends. I don't know how explain it than that I. Mean You you're part of a society I mean I think calling into society was the best thing that they ever did because it's Kind of like the Asian Society, we all become our best friends once we go to these events. Subgroup of that and beat pilots really are huge advocates of the aircraft. It's those that have had them and those of don't have them anymore and their wishing they had one. Has. Really. That's what it comes down to as far as I know you don't like to go to negative. Is there anything on the beechcraft that you might say is the you might dislike about it. So I I won't say Beechcraft, I will say. Man I'll say my. Plane specifically. With regards to my be fifty five. If there is anything I could change. would be two things. Basically one is I. Wish my throttle quadrant wasn't so high, I wish it was down lower. It's It's not awkward people ask if it's awkward or or if it's not awkward, it doesn't affect my flying I. It's it's. I fly that same as I fly a plane with that being said, it would be nicer if there was more sitting were how I would naturally be sitting with it. You know like on an arm rest or driving a car shopping or some other airplanes So that's one thing. I. Wish was different, which was different is. In specific to my model of fifty five is i. have that single single yoke in the middle which again plays to why the thought show is so high, which has that bargain across and again, it doesn't affect flying wise but it affects panel space. So all those things in turn of also pushed my avionics. IFP GPS over to the Korea co-pilot and instead of being in the center stack really not a big deal. It doesn't really affect my flying all that much But you know if I'm nitpicking, it's definitely something that from time to time I, wish was different but that's specific to my model. If I could afford a newer one, I wouldn't have this problem. For those of us that are looking at the baron and have flown the travel air. What can we expect? A little more specific the beach travel the mini mini, baron as they call it. Is, if iced if someone was to step up because you see those trainers a lot of times and you know as far as you know, the type of things that you can do with that aircraft possibly and maybe this speeds Cetera let's talk a little bit about that. You know as far as you know, can you make it to luncheon from you are in Florida to Hilton Head Island and back again sure. So that's the best part of the. Baron. Has Actually one of the things that has opened up a lot of doors for me open owning the baron is how capable it is. I mean I can take the Barron I literally fly the Barron from South West Florida. Blue Order off-line up to Saint Augustine and then. The other day I flew to Melbourne Melbourne back to Saint. Augustine. From Saint Augustine back to Punta Gorda before to get fuel. So. Yes. Absolutely I can take the airplane and fly from South Florida and go to Hilton head or You know it really up to I actually flew the airplane nonstop. I don't recommend this I did filing a peak, but it was more to to test them both mind Ernst and airplanes. I. Flew from Poona. Gorda to Springdale Arkansas nonstop. My bladder wouldn't be able to handle it. It's a one off I will. Do it again. I just gotTa do it to say I did it and and I'm glad I did and I won't be doing it again. But yeah, it's a very care plan in mind specifically I have airborne radar. I'm a huge fan of of course I have aid DSP and I've got raider all timber, and so she is very well equipped and I've actually just added up a whole bunch of new avionics in it as well. But she's always been well-equipped and even when she wasn't when I first bought her when she was just a basic airplane with no GPS in it she still has a very capable airplane. So then when you add all these other avionics in modern technology to. Open up the that much more for its ability and its safety all in one. You went from a Moonie to a baron with one engine to two engines and a lot of people say that the most people do that as for safety possibly flying over water etc I think there's something that maybe you know the especially folks are just getting started out don't realize about the training that's involved in twin really you have to be proficient. Don't you get very good training? Oh, absolutely I mean the thing where the twin engine airplane specifically at Twin Engine Piston is it can bite you and they can bite you fast. Much faster than you realize. Now, with that being said, you know. I know the argument say for you know the single or the twin and. Whichever side the argument you're on you're you're GONNA be right right because I'm not gonNA convince you that a single save twin is safer. If you're single guy and a single guy, you're not gonna convince me that a single is safer than so we're never going to convince each other. So but I do know what the statistics show right and and cystic do show that if a twin if the two planes order have an accident thusly speaking it's more likely be fatal in the twin versus the thing. So what that tells me is, of course, we don't know every time when loses an engine and land safely like these are things we don't know so they're not safe. But what the statistics to me what they tell me is that the bite is worse in a twin isn't a single. So with that being said, I personally like I I. Go to Sim Com every year and I do recurring training. It's not insurance requirement I promise you. I don't like paying the bill. And every time I go when I leave there I leave with the sense of confidence that. Is Second to none, and then as time progresses, you know I noticed that the decline and that's why. The year comes by I'd actually like to do it every six months if I could. Are Just can't afford it and I try to talk them into coming up with some sort of plan. Hey, let's say this year the state is one course and break it in half and let's go half now. But I couldn't convince them that but it's definitely something that needs to be respected. But with that being said I did I went from a single the twin into one thing I never realized until I started flying twin was the pucker factor. Which is I fly in Florida I fly at night I over everglades everglades pitch clock I mean. You might as well be out over the ocean the everglades. If you're not gonNA see what you're GonNa hit until you hit and it's probably gonNA stop really fast. And so if you don't need to look at A. Understand that and you can look at. Valujet in see what was left of that airplane which is minimal at best. So it's not great terrain that you want be over. And have a problem during the day and you don't want to have a problem at night and so what I discovered when I started flying the twin was. I remember the pucker factor, which was the the lessening of the pucker factor I didn't realize I had it until I started flying a twin realizing how? Much, more relaxed I was then before I wasn't constantly. You know I still have situation awareness I know where I'm at I know it's near me but it wasn't constantly trying to figure out. I mean gliding range of something and so I discovered that to be the case for nighttime hard IMC, and of course, a reward. Now that being said I flew my Mooney at night I flew my money over the everglades aptly wanting to the Bahamas. I don't I'm not saying you can't do it and I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I mean airplane does it? No if you're knows environments. But you do. And that's the difference. To add to that, I do know one thing I've had an engine quit in a single and one in the twin. The good thing about the twin is that it most times we'll get you to the airport and that is a big bonus especially over water that type of thing and I think that's the argument for the twin especially as like you were talking about over the swamp set night. It really and I honestly I struggled with it and and I fly a twin quite often and fly a single engine and I I really don't feel comfortable with water. I'll be honest with you in a single maybe because I've had so many engine failures I don't know maybe I'm just paranoid but but one of the things that I loved about what? You said and good for you is the fact that you actually go to recurrent training and you you pay for it yourself and you're very professional in that manner I think I just went through three days in in a twin doing some training and Assem and I said to myself you know I'm more out I needed a beer after that I mean it it. It stunk didn't like it at all I like it now days later you know what I'm saying I'm looking back at it saying this was great I learned a lot. But while I was doing, my muscles were tense and my my wife didn't really like me when I came home. So she's like you know. DECAF and have a beer, and then we'll talk. For Reverend she likes before you left. You know I never asked him a question. I think she did. Although. She was really happy for me to go to trade. Is with me occasionally and she likes the fact that I'm actually doing the training just like your passengers are happy that you do that training and just to solidify that I had a student that had an engine failure in a twin on the west coast. She's an east coast of Florida and he said he went right back to his training. He had the engine failure landed and he said the it was very important that he did that and I think that's something that you promote and that we all should promote general aviation. Yes costly but it could it could save save your life. That's for sure going back to that. But on a more positive note, one of the things that I I really liked is the fact that you keep moving forward not just in your training but also in your aircraft and recently I, don't know if we want to give it away too much but you've done some things to the aircraft that have have changed your flying life. What do you think out of all those things that you did and you did a bunch it's been hot money I'm sure was your favorite thing that you did you aircraft and tell us a little bit about the things. More, was my favorite. That's hard because I've done a lot of upgrades. Well. I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA give to favorites and I know you're asking first single favorite. I'm going to give to favorites in. I'll give the reasons why they both actually. One hundred percent relate to safety. which is why they're my two favorites and so I would say my two favorites are and get things done, which is I put an Aspen in in front of me. And the reason that that is on my list is because forget all the things the aspen does mandate does great things but. I like that the attitude indicator is larger than they standard. Suction attitude indicator it's in there so. It has. Going from from level flight to ten degrees, there is more the award is losing me but. My Gosh I can't think of her basically because his larger. I can see the different change in degrees in the attitude indicator with the Aspen much easier than I could in the standard vacuum gauge. When my all gauge I'd go from zero to ten degrees nose up and I barely saw the attitude indicator move or now because it's larger, it's more magnified I can can do I can fly with more precision because I can easily go up just five degrees if I want to and I can control it a lot better. So it's not specific to the Aspen that's you know any any larger unit. Would come that way unfortunately in j online, you know some of the legacy jets which had these large attitude indicators Gao always had small ones, and so that was always a pet peeve of mine than Jay. World. the second thing that is just as equally. My favorite is I've added active traffic to Meyer plane. And the reason that falls in the list is because. I've been a fortunate enough to fly to sign Anton. I've been fortunate enough to fly to Oshkosh. And I've seen even with the eighty s be world traffic coming go off my display and. All it takes is one airplane, and now you're putting me into a swarm with airplanes and so two to have the confidence to know that as long as they have a transponder on I, understand the limitations but as long as they at least have a transponder, not everyone's met the twenty, twenty, goal ninety one's required. You technically depending on where you're flying I'll let you elaborate more on that. But because of that, it's just a nice It's it's a nice feeling to that. I have an exercise Kinda like, why do I fly? Over oversee of our I have many flights. If you watch the Barron pilot channel where I go I are on a clear and unlimited day and people are like, why are you flying far I'm like I'm still get into where I needed to go just fine be if the traffic is not bad that I'm GONNA get raw out of my way. Well, that's my benefit. anyways. And see it's another set of eyes watching me. Watching for traffic for me and I understand it's not their responsibility unclear unlimited. I understand still my my responsibility, but it's like having a my my co-pilot Kim flying. Next to me spotting airplanes it helps to have more people watching me, and so that's kind of how I view those things. Yeah. The more layers, the better that's for sure especially when you're filing F- are and. One of the things that you just talked about is putting these things in your airplane and sometimes the most important thing is not just the equipment. We'll talk a little bit more about all the other things you did but another piece of equipment that's important is your co pilot. Yes Shave. Priceless. Tells a little bit about your copilot and the for those that haven't seen the Youtube Channel? Yet. So. I had my co-pilot is Cam. Aka. Flying Sic on instagram and facebook and Kim has been fantastic She is not a pilot yet she was really. Cheap and exposed aviation before. But not like this. You know inner passion you know her family was in the military and. She's been around airplanes and she's probably been in from time to time but not at this capacity and so you know through our relationship and she has. Basically taken the bull by the horns and and that was a great addition to my channels. One of the things that I didn't realize was missing until we took a flight together. We're going on a cruise and she started asking me questions the things that I took for granted because I'm a pilot and I know it and I just assume everyone knows it and so when she started asking questions I'm like Oh yeah. Those are good questions. These are things I should talk about and but I just again I take for granted and so That her her thurbers radiation has grown, and so she got into, you know doing coms, and so she start taking over doing coms and then you know I, let her take off and I let her. Fly, a little bit of going far or something and then I got into Devi doing maneuvers and says she's Doing three sixties in the Baron and holding altitude to to beyond private pilots standards, which is amazing So she's doing fantastic, and so she has been dying to learn how to fly. Now I am not a safe I i. am an ATP pilot but I'm not a see if I never got it. and. So while she can get expansion to me, she can't necessarily learn from me and so now we've gotten to the point where she's actually about to begin training and I will video some of those flights. Of her Shell Video I'm actually but be stuck editing but I will post some of those flights and let people follow her along to see what her journey has like going from from sic to try to become the IC herself it should be fun. She brings a great perspective to the show and just don't embarrass her. She really does I think that's terrific. Helps your channel along and and and it's continuing to move forward and that's what I love about Barron pilot and let me ask you this where where's it going I? Mean what? What's what's next? So. That's a great question. You know a lot of people see my channel those who've been falling for a long time. I've seen the evolution of the channel and. All kinds of comments and feedback from people and. And I'm not one hundred percent. Sure. I can tell you this is that. That channel has always been one hundred percent about aviation and so like when Kim's gotten involved with channel, had you know of course you always have keyboard warriors so I've had a few people make reference to all the channels changing tone. It's about it's now becoming about her and the channel has never been about her anymore than it's ever been about me She might have been a a tool to get my message across, but it's never been. About anything other than aviation and so to the people who have taken that tone I've always said you show me what about this this video is not about aviation. Tell me you know how it's changed a other than people asking to see a little more inside in my life. So we'll share a little more private conversations to kind of break up the you know let's face. It can be a little monotonous just you know sitting there and crews. Once. You're encouraged I mean what what's going on not a whole lot. So so help us that to break it up instead of something else music or beauty shots but but it's always been about aviation. So where's it going the channels will remain about aviation I'll try to. EXPAND UPON that I'll try to find nice ways to. To get the message across perhaps you know with little more trips you know we can get a little more but a little more. Production value in it. But ultimately the channels about aviation it's about promoting creation if people can learn from it as you mentioned earlier than that's great I'm not trying to teach you know see if is that's their job at each, but but I learned from every pilot I've ever flown with period whether it was what what to do or what not to do even the negatives have been positive. Sometimes I'll watch somebody go oh, seeing that that's exactly why I do this instead of that or hey interesting maybe I should try that. Let me see if it works for me and so if you if you follow the evolution of my channel, you also seen a little bit of the evolution of how I find the baron and you'll see the things that I do have changed throughout the process, and which is also a great benefit of a watching editing on videos because you can solve evaluate. In a way that you could never do. Without a camera on you. Guys you know before we wrap up and and talk a little bit about your websites and stuff like that I do WanNa, ask you a personal question if you don't mind me a little little attitude. We're since you were talking about the Youtube. Channel and. You're very critical of yourself. There's something that I was wondering how do you deal with? And everybody gets us in all the youtube channels. How do you deal with those negative comments just kind of curious. You learn to get thick-skinned. In the beginning it's very difficult in the beginning you take it very personal. The reality is this is that all post a video in all get anywhere from three hundred to Six seven eight hundred comments on the channel. And of those comments, nine, hundred, ninety, nine percent of them will be. Positive. And Ninety, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, point nine but. They will be positive. You're GonNa comment on that one. But that one comment that's negative is the one that sticks in your head that you just can't get out of your head and it will drive you insane and is the hardest part of of doing that and I've since learned my skin is definitely much thicker now than it's ever been and Kim is still dealing with and she's still learning because. You know as bad as it is for me. Okay. What can you? Can you knock on a knock my flying ability my skills you know there's plenty of twenty thousand, our ATP's living in your mom's basement as I refer to them the keyboard warriors that that will tell you everything you're doing long and I've never flown in airplane in their life So, if I had a guy, the other day who who made a comment and critiquing some taking something I responded to emphasize try to respond in an. Non Aggressive, way, I try to give everyone a chance. Sometimes, things can be misunderstood in writing versus you don't hear tone in writing right so sometimes, it can be sarcasm and things. So I responded to somebody and he responded with I, was fifth fifth squadron or whatever he was in the Air Force bomber squadron enough said, and so I responded back and go I notice you didn't say you were a pilot in that squadron. So So he, he never responded to my to my response clearly, he wasn't which was to my point like. A pilot wouldn't have responded this way. So A. Personally I just to be thick skinned. I'm not perfect I'm not the best pilot out there by any means I'm constantly every time I get airplane I'm learning. In fact, I, hope every single pilot that ever gets an airplane is learning every time they get near plane no matter how much time they have but I just wanted to be Thanksgiving learn that that you know most the comments if they're truly if they're harsh comments, they're just the keyboard warrior and they're looking for response to looking to get a rise Outta If, they are truly someone who has good intent by then usually I'll read it or they'll send me a private message. Message, from people who made reference the things or ask questions or what have you but it's a hard thing to do. It's something that You know you'll. You'll struggle what you're always struggle with because in the end of the day I'm just trying to something positive I'm trying to promote aviation and Trying to do it in a positive light and so are charges not to get sucked in it's easier than the negativity. You Know Christopher one of the reasons I. Put that question toward you is that there's a lot of folks out there that listen say Gosh I would love to start a podcast or youtube channel but I'm so afraid of this. I'm so afraid of all these negative comments and I tell people is just part of the business I'm glad you said that because I learned from what your comments are and and if you're one of those people are listening right now wanna get into a YouTube Channel WanNa get into podcasting. My suggestion is read the book hug your haters and it's A It's a wonderful book that talks exactly about or Christopher said but the, but there's so much you think about the one negative comment, but there's so much and the it's so many blessings from people and so many positive comments and I've seen it on your on your channel and I think what you're doing a great job. I can't wait to see more of what you do. So for those of us that really WanNa Watch you and WanNa, follow you what are some of the places they can find you on the Internet. Sure. While obviously, go on Youtube Search Barron pilot you to dot com forward slash baron pilot we'll get you to my videos You, WanNa follow me on Instagram I really any social media. It's Beech Baron pilot. Beach like the B. e. c. h. Barron pilot and then I also have a website Baram pilot shop which has some of the baron pilot organize and stuff but it also has other links postings on there if I'm going to do meet ups and what have you. So it's also a good source for information as well, but I want to comment on on your. Go back to real quick running out of time. For those who are interested in wanting to start high cast or wanting to sort of aviation channel who were concerned about the haters the naysayers they're going to exist unfortunately and I'm sorry to say to which I will say this. If your intent is to promote aviation. Then, let it be about aviation and re remind yourself that you're promoting heavy -ation. If it's your intended to promote yourself. Then Nick then the critiques are then you're opening yourself up to critique someone can say they're valid because I never valid if they're. But. Understand that it. Don't. Let it be personal because it's not about you because the channel isn't about shoe to begin with. It's about promoting something you love and just focus on the positive of promoting what what you love and. Let the haters go but Yeah I don't know I. I could do a whole podcast on haters. Well and I think that's been done in a lot of shows as far as. Youtube, but I wanted to hear from someone who doesn't Aviation Youtube Channel. It's very popular and one of the things that I think in general in life not just in Youtube. But we do have these people that will be the naysayers even throughout your career as a recreational pilot you know people will say, Oh, you can't do that. You're going to have struggles and you're going to have people that beach you while you're down. Don't let them get you down keep moving forward motivation. It's motivation. There's nothing. Nothing better in the world. Then success right and so success is the best revenge and so. If the the more someone hates I had someone make reference to my channel's declining and I was like I responded to the guy like what are you talking about my my son rate has gone up every single day from the time this channel has begun. It has never had a negative day in the history of his existence what are you talking about and so now as I watch a client I remember that guy and it's just a success is the best revenge. So yeah, let them motivate you. And that's some some great advice I mean really one of the things that you want to do is have this this inner circle and I've always told us to people who are looking at getting their private pilot, their instrument, etc. Share your struggles with those people that are actually going to be a positive influence on you and are going to react positively not the person not the Naysayer is not the person on the street that knows nothing about aviation share with somebody who really cares about you and is going to help promote you to get to that point I mean aviation is a family and the thing is is that it's not hard to find. You don't have to go to. To a family that doesn't understand aviation for that support because aviation can be your family I. Have you know everywhere I go even people who don't. Know who I am because because apparent pilot just because I'll walk into a room and find a fellow aviator and suddenly there's a bond I. Mean I was in I was in Home Depot just the other day I was wearing when my beach life A guy walked up to me didn't recognize anything other than the fact it's be E. C. H.. So he knew that I obviously must be a pilot and almost suddenly he struck up a conversation and we sat there homedepot got in a conversation about aviation and because that's kind of how it is. It is a family, and so you can find that support and anyone who's truly in aviation Especially for the love of, we'll gladly be there and be your support and I tell people all the time on my channel. Someone's about to start firing on like hey, you got any questions asked me now I'm going to see a fi and I'm not gonNA be able to. Help you from a C. I asked but I'm here to be your support. If there's something you struggle with maybe I had to struggle with it. I can tell you how I got past it. Again, I'm not teaching you but I can help you in a support manner. To get you through an and it's not because of of the channels because I love aviation and I think any fellow aviator would gladly do that for you as well. And who better to have as a mentor them barren pilots So. So I hope those people will take you up on that. That's for sure and you're right. It is a great society as far as this this aviation and. What I do at Sun, Fun Radio, and here on the stuck Mike ABC. I never would've met Bill English and and bill and I never would have been able to to correspond if it wasn't for stuck my actually I think it was something critically said that also made us really good friends We still criticize each other a lot but that's okay. It's funny. You mention that because. Because aviation does it will open up a lot of doors view. It opened up a lot of friendships for you. That, you wouldn't normally come into case in point another Youtube Channel Premiere one driver Greg Greg. Greg Nick and I because of aviation have become fast friends. We talk on an almost daily basis and that's not to namedrop or Brag is because we would never have been in the same circle in any other world we never would of crossed paths had it not been for aviation? So now I've got a guy out of indy who who runs a very successful company that flies around the premier jet and we're tight thinking. We were tight. Citation Max another Youtube Channel Out of New York. Another guy that I never would have met in a different circumstances. Nico who is you know Piston guy out of out of Boca from he goes wings we never would have met if it wasn't free reation and I know I'm dropping names of of. Of youtubers but I'm only doing it to make my point of their aviators. youtubers. Yes youtuber but they're aviators and these these friendships in these bonds were created because of aviation not because of of Youtube Channel. Sean corporate highlights. Yeah I met him. You Walk Me My son to fund at son-in-law and that's how we met and again it's it's these bonds in these friendships and I have a group of friends that are lifelong friends that that I talked to all the time and talk about my escape from reality they're my escape and we talk about evasion and and it's fantastic and again it's a group of people that under any other circumstances I never would have been in those circles and now I have friends in in other circles that never would existent I can go on and named a whole bunch of the Non Youtuber wise but that never would have existed if it wasn't for aviation. And that's why we love aviation's community not just the fact we love flying and looking at the world from an amazing perspective but we do have a different perspective because of the people that join us in our lives and I think it's terrific. Like, yourself Christopher and I think what you're doing by permitting promoting aviation tour is just awesome. And I love what you're doing. Also one of the things you mentioned beach life hat. Working someone, get something like that. Sure. Again on my my website, Baram pilot shop I have all kinds of goodies on there. I have beachline. If you know, I would say for those who live the beach life or a one of the beach life I have had shirts, jackets, all kinds of stuff and of course, there's Barron pilot stuff on there as well and then what I'm actually most proud of is because you know I understand not everyone by beechcraft in what have you but then I came up with. So I have like a shirt I came up with now that we're in. This whole social distancing. So one of the shirts is a pilot with a definition of and it's you know master of social distancing. Give you think about what we do right? We're we're up in the air way from everybody, and then there was another one that we make and we sell, which is pilots social distancing since nineteen ninety-three but an airplane on it so So yeah. So you know it's just little stuff here and there and You know again it's it to me the the point of anyone buying stop isn't for any other reason than it's a great way to let people know that you're a pilot without having to walk around and say your pilot. And then. It's a conversation starter and so I promise you anyone who doesn't have to be my stuff anyone. If you put on a anything aviation related and go to the store walk around I promise you you will get into conversation with somebody about aviation because it happens every time I wear my stuff out anything that's aviation related and it's why I do it because i WanNa Talk Aviation. Meet people innovation. It's a great way to meet people in aviation. That's for sure. Christopher, this has been great having you on I. Really appreciate you coming here to stuck my gaffe cast and you know what? I can't wait to see it Sunan Fun I. Hope to see this year Oh. Yeah. I I look forward to actually look forward to the event now in December and I look forward to fund 2021 Iowa's really bummed I understand why? Why canceled but I was definitely on the bummed list when it got cancelled so I look forward to to being around all all the. Aviators honestly to me the people is what makes fun it isn't the airplanes I mean the Europeans great I love seeing them but unfortunately unless enough that you know I an aeroplane can go flying anytime I want and and by doing so I can see you know all kinds of airplanes have different airports but the people that all in one location that can't be duplicated anywhere else and so you know other than than our oshkosh there isn't there's no there's not a close third to do those two. By any means and so to me, that's the best part is just being around the people and breathing the air. Well. That's really is in. It's what we do here at cod cast youtube channels was we bring this aviation community together? You know speaking about Sun and fun before we end here with all the different websites, you can find you know has been a tough year. 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Jonathan DeYoe: Mindful Money

Leadership and Loyalty

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Jonathan DeYoe: Mindful Money

"Either ruin I'm Jonathan the author of Mindful Money Simple Practices for reaching your financial goals and increasing your happens dividend. We all have a deeply emotional connection to money and today on the show of academic. Congratulations you were tuned into Dov. Barons, leadership and loyalty show the number one podcast for fortune, five hundred executives, and those who were dedicated to creating a quantum leap in leadership. Your host Dov, Barron, he's an executive mentor to leaders like you. A contributing writer for Entrepreneur magazine CEO, world and he's been featured on CNN fox, CBS and many other notable sites Dov Baron is an international business speaker who is named by INC magazine as one of the top one hundred leadership speakers to hire now over to Dov Baron. Welcome to your friends, fans and fellow Aficionados of leadership excellence. Thank you for joining us on this episode of leadership loyalty tips for executives. Ask You. What do you need to do to up level? 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One podcast globally fortune five hundred listens potential reach. Two point five to four million listeners every single show. We're excited an on it to be great and grateful to recited by INCA. Dot Com is the number one podcast to make you a better leader again. Want to thank you for sure sharing the show with everyone. You know all right. Let's strip it down and dive right in. LET'S FACE! It was. Money whatever performance in it's the center of business, and if you are an investor in the first quarter of twenty twenty. It might have made you a little bit seasick with an all time, ups and downs. And how do you stay centered? How do you stay focused focused in this turbulence? We all know that leadership circles mindfulness has grown in popularity. So here's the question. Could you use the stock market's Melilla? Volatility as your meditation could you and I used the ups and downs of the market to center ourselves and stay mindful well. We're about to find out because my guest on this episode. Is Jonathan do now? Jonathan is the also mindful money simple practices for reaching your financial goals and increasing your happiness dividends. He has been educating students and employees about while also directly helping families in and fight with financial, Planning and investing for twenty years. Jonathan believes that everyone benefits from some kind of financial planning, and no one should be ashamed of the foam. They want that planning to take so and gentlemen. Please put your hands together and help me welcome the author of my body. The have your. It's so great to be here. What a great interest! You've done this a few times I've been. I think I'M GONNA ship that over to you, so you can send it to the people who love you and then every time you walk in the room that can happen. So does and where we always liked to stop is sort of. In a world where we're all, so many people are claiming to be influences, and there's always those big names that have influenced as you know the names that we all recognize like Winston Churchill JFK whoever it might be, but one of my favorite questions to ask my guests is who might we not know or even consider who's been a major influence on your life because it's always nice to give them a shot out. Wow, yeah so I've never had that opportunity to answer this question. The first one that POPs parliament is my dad so. Out obviously my father, but. because he gets a lot of credit, my book and things I'd like to also say it was a had I had a professor Jim Allard in college who steered me away from the finance stuff? But I was studying toward the philosophy, and that actually really supported later the finance mark, so I really WanNa. Thank thank Jim Allard for for for making that effort to say to John. If pretty good this philosophy stuff, why don't you some more? He was a was he a professor in the finance world now philosophy. That's interesting, yeah! So. But you were studying finance the time. Yeah, so I. I mean I started trading stocks and I was nine years old. My Dad owned real estate. you never made a lot of money, but investing is always something that was core to who to our own thinking. He always said two hundred can be whatever you want life. You know you just gotTa. Work really hard to get there and so. We did that, but. Yeah I. I, studied finance started out studying finance and got kind of bored of it because I've been I've been reading Value Research Roberson starting off with financial one. I was like this is. Exciting so as not round English read that was interesting and I fun, philosophy and couple professor. It's fresher in in Marvin. Shaw said you know what you're good at this. You like thinking deeply about the stuff. Go Grad School for that, and so I ended up switching in Undergrad from financed philosophy, and then further on wife. You went to Grad School for Buddhist phenomenology. WHO'D A thunk? So that, let let stop that because the book is is is about being mindful, it's about. Money and and being mindful about money so. These two things you know when we talked about this even Elia I've sent you that I think that one of the things that listens will find fascinating is that these two things seem contradictory? They mindfulness the Buddhist practices, and then money and the market, and the a volatility of that and the consumerism of that in the materialism of that seems quite contradictory so. I know it's been your life's work to bring these two things together talk a little about these seeming contradictions and how we overcome. Yet. The challenge challenges in the seeming. Right so if you, if you look at those people who are just just very very very successful, they have these muscles of patients and discipline and have it. And they have this ability to ignore the headline of the day. And so it's the headline of the day is the attention to the headline on the day that causes this. Anxiety or fear, and this mood moves us to act. We had to do something about this. 'cause this is corona is something that oh? My God it's going to get us. All the market's going to be crushed. We'd better get away first and. Then you know what's going to happen to us. So the reality is there's a bunch of people at the same time that experience the same craziness and saw the same danger in the same risks who sat on their hands and did nothing. What? What is it about them? That enable that, is it? It's it's reason it's. It's rationale our needs. It's and so what mindfulness is. Mindfulness is a doorway through which we can access reason when reasons so our access moments along a very very deep emotional stress corona. The you know the last two weeks in the US yeah. So. Walk us through that a little bit because I want listeners to have aggressive without at. A. Conceptual idea, but. Even in a practicality. It's somebody's got. Make up a number. Let's say half a million dollars. Right got half a million dollars invested in the markets. Already got a half a million dollars into monkeys. And there's a pandemic. You know Then there is A containment of that people you know being locked homes to was it. Shelter in place is the time. Then, you've got then you social distancing and businesses, not being open as quickly as one might like. That has a massive impact on economy and jobs in all-time highs in job unemployment employment. Then you've got racial tensions and you've got police, brutality and protests and Blah Blah Blah. So all that going on with this half a million dollars that somebody has in the market an ally. Oh my God. You Know Helena handbasket. And! It's not. A blip in the market because this is now, some has been going on for six months right where six months into the craziness right which? Not Not a full site in end inside right yet. How do we died a listeners of things viewers to say? All right. Let's not get crazy here. So. I. Think there's two really big parts of this I. Think I think the first part. Is is developing a habit of. Being mindful questioning the narrative, so mindfulness is a non-judgmental right. That's critical. It's a non judgmental awareness of the present situation as you experience it through your senses through your mind, which is your emotions in in your intelligence, right? So? The first thing is to recognize. You can't if you're judging the moment? That's a problem you have your already applying in narrative, and you actually don't know how this thing you know route yet. You have no idea how this thing resolve itself, and while we're going through the initial parts of the pandemic pule had no clue and yet everyone predicted the ever predicted. The US couple million are going to die They're gonNA, have hundreds of millions globally infected, and and and and maybe that was true. Maybe it's not in the in that moment. No one knew. And yet we were given the narrative, and we all ran with it. Every media or source ran with it. We ran within our own heads as we created this huge. FEAR AROUND US! That was unnecessary because we didn't know. We have to admit it's humble humbling to admit that you don't know, but that's the route I don't know. At the SAM, the negatives happening. Things are happening on the positive. We have a whole bunch of people working on epidemiologists. Biologists are working on. How do we resolve this? Make people healthier again hunt. You know whatever the issue is whether at Scoble financial pandemic, or whether it's financial meltdown of two, thousand, seven, two, thousand, eight to nine, or whether it's dot com two thousand. You pick your thing. Who's always the negative? But then there's always the human response and we always worked together to make better, so the first thing is understanding that. The second thing is having a practice of. Having a practice, planning, orientation and action to begin with, and so we talked about this a lot you know to be to be market focused and performance driven. It moves you to make decisions you. You do not know the outcomes of however. Standard Right. We had ninety five percent of everything. Is that market? Performance driven, but there's a research, says the people that do that they they don't provide better outcomes. They can't provide their elbows so. Then what's the other? Well? What if you were goal focused and planning driven, and when go folks, pining driven and world hands you. The world handed us. You go okay. It into the average. This is normal. This is part of the world. Things happen. Are they predictable? No, are they knew this time did appear new. Yeah, they kind of appear new, but business response to these things in a very similar way. You know we always had the same responses even to every new thing that occurs. And we saw the same thing and by the way that person had half million dollars four months ago. The risk. was that they changed something between then now had they just. This is more evidence of if they just out of hand. Did Nothing Rick Today? They have a half million again or yet again. It would have recovered almost all the way to that. More evidence that. Doing nothing staying true to your plan following the process works. So, it's kind of financially biting your tongue exactly on your hands books sooner hands, so but at the same time. I just want to sort of have. The voice that. People I know people who are you know like us? Who still a little bit less reactive? I don't know that I'm not reactive, but a little bit less. WHO Actually Doing better and they. They managed to stay mindful in common whatever it is, but at the same time. That doesn't change the narrative. How in the world change the fact that? they are being bombarded, and maybe that being bombarded by the people who advise and direct financial investment now so you know because a lot of those people are a little reactive. So you know. Exactly so that's my question to you. How what what would do, we say to these these folks who are going okay. I'M GONNA listen to Jonathan. And I'M GONNA. Sit On my hands and I'm not going to react. Meanwhile my palm now in life is reconnect. Allow my kids a freaking out because you know that that future could dissipate on the toilet like it's nineteen, twenty, nine, thousand, eighteen, or whatever it is. And then And the guy who take care of myself, so my my Batman's and all the rest of it. He's also having a freakout needs sold these soltys Bentley inbox iota so. What. How to how to? It's one thing to become. It's another thing to stay calm in the vortex of lunacy. Totally true, so there's there's lots of stories about My Dad's got a really good one. You know if you had to have now probably going to tell it, but I don't have half. The idea is you need to find a calm voice? And in any room of craziness. And Tectonic Han has has a whole bunch of this as well if if you wonder room of people and everyone is screaming crazy. You absorb that and you become screaming crazy loon going to room, everyone screaming crazy except for one person. One person is questioning the screaming and craziness. Right VAT is the thing that gives you the power to stand and maybe. Other people are entering the same room and you can be that one person. And so how do you get to be that one person? That's the practice that's that's an honest daily half an hour meditation practice and I'm not not joking about that. People say really. Jonathan Better financial outcomes by meditate. Yes yes, you can my my own personal bottom came thirteen years ago, I weighed in at two hundred ninety pounds I had had. A lifestyle that was three times. My income I had a two year old, and another one on the way. I wasn't sure I was going to be around. Because I was drinking too much. I was eating too macho. It's not taking care of myself. I had given up my meditation practice years ago. And I something triggered went okay. Something has to change in my personal life at the eat better at the actually. Stop drinking as much. I have to exercise and regular basis of spend more time in nature and guess what I gotTa. Sit Down and stare at wall twenty minutes a day and the minute I started doing that like. Exercising all those disciplines. My life literally changed in like a six month period started losing weight film better about myself started. Making more money started being more aware of things by the way this is. This is just for two thousand seven. Just the world fell apart and so it hasn't got false acquire. I'm actually getting these practices I feel fantastic worlds apart. I feel fantastic. I'm able to be that person in the room for my clients for the people that are in I need who are panicked and upset today. It's a pretty interesting today I have a relatively new clients today who I sat down in their restaurant. In two thousand eight. And I was calmly reading the paper, whatever in came over to me and said Jonathan. How can you sit here so calmly? The world's and apart. How can you do this I'm like well. It's GONNA recover. And ten years later they become clients because of that moment of peace, and they're like Oh okay I gave them permission to believe in a future, not about the future. So what brought? Let go from what brought you to that moment because I think that. Was a lot of people who? Is One of the things I talked about with my own full I don't think that people listen. And by that, I don't mean to external forces, although goes to, but often to final forces, so there's. Something going on inside of us. That says you know you're gonNA, stop the shit, it's time right yet. You gotta puppy socks and do some indifferent behave differently. you know you know I told my story thousands of times, but fell a mountain in nineteen ninety. And people goal that was a turning point well, yeah was but not really I felt four times total. You know so, what was the toning? What brought about view I mean? That's a pretty this a pretty. Big Way in your hat. Is going on. Yeah, so there was. The. Moment was the trigger for change language I know exactly the moment, but obviously the change in all happen the next moment saturated chain for me was. We're going for a ski trip with my My folks were there my two year old. was there my wife and I there and we're getting ready to go skiing the first day. And I forgot my Ski Pants and my Dad My guy love my dad like I love him. He's a big guy. He's not not healthy student. And he said Oh just borrow mine thoughts myself. That's crazy. We'll never fit I. put him on, and they were tight, so they're. Yuck oh my goodness. They'll. But that L. because they're. Because, they're small. Exactly that's not. How do you spell? As you get A. WAKEUP call. And then like probably three weeks later. I'm at home and I'm just you know nothing's changed nothing's chain? An home. Late night TV I've got whatever ice cream in front of me and P. Ninety x comes across. You know you know this. The End Vision and I'm like all right. Whatever one hundred eighty bucks. This your shot at purchased it. And every day I just just like video site. Just push play and every day got up on us or working out and the mid I started working out I was like you know what the ice cream and alcohol or are killing the workout like? Why do this Ambati okay gotta stop doing this other stuff and it just fell into place bit by bit by bit by bit but it all started with. These pants are timeless. Dance got me. But what about because you know you said you return to meditation Yep. You talked about studying finance than studying Buddhism and part of that study that I'm show is deep meditation, and all those practices what dropped off in what brought it back because when my guess is quite a few people listening viewing who've either never done any of this and like whatever? And there are people like maybe remembering that. Yeah, you know ten years ago. I did do that an account. Add some benefits and maybe what brought you back? So the thing that took me away was was life like I went through A. Leading up to the to ninety right you don't you don't just? Using an athlete, you don't just get the to ninety overnight. You know she hasn't happened to work. It's. Joel. Elbow Grease. It was it was really an answer? It was I am divorced. I moved my business report times I had a business in the in the DOT COM world. That completely imploded. I mean completely. We were doing you know I was I was very accessible on the fastest growing groups in the UBS. UBS PAINEWEBBER Systems Mrs. Nine, nineteen, ninety, nine, thousand current. You know just doing an awesome job. And then in two thousand, two thousand one hit my my mom dissipated and just just disappeared. We you know we we agreed here. We're GONNA. Move from one firm to another and one of US stayed behind in that enactment sabotage, everyone else in the move to the clients, and so everything fell apart all the ones. And then you know nine eleven happened all kinds of stuff happening with that. I started down. Pretty Bad Guthrie. Got An wars on other issues? In that process meditation wasn't might. My head space was not a place to maintain a meditation practice before that before dot bomb. A Devos William Meditating. Yeah loosely not as much. Not as disciplined. You're not as dedicated. I had done it in a dedicated fashion when I was in school because that was. Part school like it was surely weeded, Taichi and daily practice was the thing that we did. then. Enter the finance WORL-. Happened let's. See I'm trying to get this crossover so I i. get that you went to school. You studied Buddhism meditation. Did you practices that? Then you leave that and you go back into the financial world. Do you take meditation with you yet? been the first thing that I did initially. And then it slowly fades kicking off a financial planning practice is. Ten. Ten it's ten days a week three hours a day. You know yeah I, get it. Isn't that much nine so I? Just? my meditation went away slow. Right, And I had to recover it later on because it's interesting, because I really WanNa bring, it is because. It's interesting because what you're talking about he is. A very interesting cycle, which is that we get caught up in things we lose. What's important? Not You know it's not just a meditation, but you talked about with your health, and you talked about all these other things, and that is so often. The case is that we get caught up in. You know as Steven Covy said we get caught up in. What's the emergency? But no, what's important? so. Then you find your way back into meditation and you said that. Like. Did you stumble back into it? Wasn't stumble, it was. It was a recognition that this was a discipline so now I picked up my my workout again. I'm sorry I'm eating more healthy. What else can I do to move the needle? This thing I used to do, and I kind of I remember feeling good when I did it. and not just feeling good. Having more stable view of life. And being able to carry through hard times when I did this. And the that memory goes okay when I try this again. It doesn't doesn't immediately happen. I can't really sit for twenty no one when they kick off, consider twenty thirty minutes right out of the gate. It's two minutes and you're like. I gotta move, and thence you boost the two and a half minutes then three minutes, and then three. That's a year takes a year to get the ten minutes fifteen minutes, and then slowly surely just keep you keep boosting it up, and the more you boosted up the more time you spend in of reflection, quiet contemplation. The the better outcomes you get, it's. It's amazing, yeah, it's. It's interesting I've always advise people to meditate perform Brett's. Full breaths. You can just do full rats in hold readout box, breathing, four, four and four out, and eat it up for full times, and just focus on just nothing other than the breath pants, engines breath for four rats, and if you get to full wrestling, you can do for breakfast three times in a row. Great, then go to five. Because it really really is an remember. That's when I started. My teacher said the goal is one hundred one hundred breaths of not allowing mind to go anywhere else but but. To the breath. And took me four years. Took me four years, and and and if somebody said it'll take you for his done snuck. And what people don't know is that time I was devout and I was spending four hours a day meditating. Right so I do an ninety minutes in the morning ninety minutes at night and one hour lunchtime, and it still took me four years as this thing is not quiet. No. It is not. A noisy little monkey! So, PAS, name know so. I WANNA. Take. We're GONNA. Take a little break and when we come back I. 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Simply go to Dav Baron, DOT COM. That's D. O. V., B. A., R., O., N. DOT, com to find out how you can sink your teeth into an episode of curiosity bites. All right. Welcome back I'm here with my guest Jonathan. Do now we talking about mindful money? We're talking about that actually is. Is it possible to be mindful? Can we use this market to do that? So let let's jump on a where we are in the world today. Is this a good time to be in the market I, mean people like is a good time to get out is a good time to get into to. To sit down and do nothing would from your point of view which I know is a different philosophy. Is this a good time to start with being the market? So people are in it, should I be in it? So I I would say that going back to the idea of being goal. focused and planning driven out a question. What's your plan? So my plan is. Going to be working for next twenty five years, I'm forty eight. I love what I do. I can't imagine doing anything else. I can imagine retiring one day one day. I'll have to pass the torch onto some some other advisers in in the office and it's just it's you'll have happened right? The can't. I can't imagine that moment in time. But between this day and that day. My Plan says I have to say a certain amount every single month. It says I should be invested in a primarily equities portfolio. and whether you're a a real estate investor or or a diversified portfolio investor. If your plan is to save money, every single month and been get enough for downpayment, bind the piece of property. You should continue doing that. If your plan is to. Your phone can get your your company match. You should continue doing that if your plan is like mine and save as much as I is at every single month. so that I can. I can bring the moment of freedom, even if I don't retire can bring the moment of financial freedom closer than you should continue doing that. The reality is every single time. We see the dislocation like this. It recovers. Every time there is no precedent for not recovering. So. Why why would you? Why would you react in a way? That is suggestive of this time. It's not going to recover. That's that would be a narrative that will be a statement of something that has never occurred before right? You're letting fear rule and that's I. think that's the mistake. All right so somebody finds themselves. Fairly liquid right now due to. Maybe they got fortunate. I know, somebody recently got a buyout from apartment ship that took place. I think like a week before it. The Corona virus thing was the pandemic was. Announced and they find themselves. And their undoing get in the market. Do not get in the market, and there are other people who just like. I don't know. Is this a good time to get in the market? Get Out for that matter now I would never so I'm not I'm never getting out of the market ever. Going to happen. I will rebalance. So, you know. If you if you upper like I, do with a diversified portfolio approach. then. Every year every couple years every five years. The market's going to hand you something like this. When the market handy something like this! The the right behavior is just to rebalance, which means you sell the thing that is up now and you buy the thing that is down now. And that is just a simple brainless thing you can do, and usually I do this on a calendar basis every January I. do it every July do it but. This time we January and guess what we got March and so we did it again in March. Because we have a huge opportunity by more low, so we did it. and we're GONNA. Probably due in July, in which means we're GONNA take some risk off the table in July? We're going to rebalance back to what the plan called for for each of our individual clients. And that's I think that's the best thing can do. Everything else is prediction. It's prognostications guesswork. That's where you fail. That's that's where you. Make mistakes because. You listened to a bunch of your previous podcast and I know that you know this. Our brains are just build with cognitive emotional biases coaches those. It's those Katainen. Emotional biases that meek you make decisions that hurt you in the long run, so just like meditation. We return to our breast. In. Your finances return to your plan. What is your plan? Your plan says new Xyz just XYZ. Keep moving farther. All right, so let's just sort of steer off that for a minute and just say well okay, but there are people who. Make a living at being able to see predict a little bit economic futures many of whom are completely Bachelorette, crazy but some of them were pretty good You know Some people would call out a radio. But at the same time, right? Allio is a hedge fund manager and he's going to be focused on that I. Don't know that that's a great. Indicator and we also know that. From not pretending I'm any level of an expert, but we do know the the. The market is not a true predictor of economies. Even the The job market is is a latent predictor. Things that are off. and. He's not why you're saying you have to. Just this is the plan. This is what we do. We take two steps every. Tuesday. We take steps every Tuesday if they ocean boils up. We take two chips every Tuesday if the sun goes black for a couple of weeks, which two steps every Tuesday. Yes Okay I do understand that there are people a there are always going to be people that. And usually this. self aggrandizing right. There's always gonNA. Be People that say well. I made this call three years ago I was right about. And that's true. There are some people you can. You can look back in history and you can. You can see the are people that make a few good calls However, there are no people that make consistently good calls and well. Let me let me let me back off that just a second. If, you put on a bell, curve. Right all the people making all the decisions. We'll have one or two. The very outliers in the right side of the curve who will make consistent good calls? You will not be able to tell if their next call will be a good call or not, and he will not be able to tell who is gonNA. Fall to the Lower Hassle, the null curve. Can't predict who will be the right predictor. Someone will be, but you only know that after the fact, and so we are left with. The fact of not knowing the humility, the requirement to admit that we don't slash can't now in yet. We have to do something. So. The only thing we can do is rely upon a very well thought out plan that we've put together already that takes into account that markets will hand us. Thirty three to fifty percent decline once every five years that takes into account that every single year. Marcus hand doesn't fourteen fifty percent peak to trough decline, and yet over time. They're going to do really really well because. We are a population that is growing. That has continuous wants and needs. That will always want bigger better faster cleaner. You know more responsible you pick your whatever it is. There's more of us. We're living longer. We have once needs. That's why capitalism works that is that is the driver of our societies. Now you're opening up a whole other. Can I know I am like? Does capitalism work is a whole big? It is particularly today at this point as a record. Broken it is wicked broken, right? It's not perfect by any stretch of imagination. But the idea of. When lockdown US over? I am going to go to restaurants. Before I can go to restaurants. Someone has to build a restaurant. Someone Asks in Boston and hire people and have a menu, and but I like restaurants and a lot of us like restaurants, so that's GonNa continue existing. There's also you know there's no question. In the US, we have four hundred year legacy. WE'VE GOT A. We've got to figure out and solve for, and we are horrible at that, and it's a big masol problem it will be. I hope I hope that right now. We're beginning steps that we should have begun four hundred years ago. but I think navy right now we are I'm hopeful. That you know I don't know. What is what is? What is something that? What do even the wealthiest need to know about my that you you know in your work. Find a even wealthy people don't really get this. What is it they need to get? What is it not just the wealthiest? All of us related to get mad. Get I. Think Advice can be pretty easy to sort of push onto everybody, but even the wealthiest people who've got. Billions of dollars. What is something day? They need to know about money all of his names. What can I who does not have billions of dollars? Tell the wealthiest out. About their money. It's a good. It's a good question and I don't know that I have an answer except. That money is not the solution to all problems. I mean that's when you look at the title of the Book Simple Practices for. Reaching your financial goals and here's the critical part increasing your happens to that. It is the focus on money. And on more and on consumption, and on this next thing that if I only get, it will make me happy. It is that issue that creates more unhappiness and then than any other issue. until I actually do have. Some clients are very very not bill I. Don't have any clients. Billionaires specimen very well off. And, one of the stimulus to write the book was. One of my clients who is very well off has enough and is never happy. And so the question is, why are they not happy? And I think it's a lot is because we we live in this illusion. That money is gonNA. Make it for us in a dozen. Money is something that ensues from a life, well lived from a from a serious clan with that's the goal and you make it happen. But happiness is also something that can ensue from a life well lived. It's you can't be a target. Money can be the target. Happiness can't be a target there. Things that happen when the rest of your life well, which is why health. Good food meditation. These for me are the first two hours of every day. What can I do to to stabilize life so that money and happiness Kenan sue? Hopefully that can be something lesson, but. Yeah I mean I think that You know we all know the adage that money doesn't necessarily mean happiness. Everybody knows that, but nobody believes it. And? That's the problem we live in A. One of the problems we living in a capitalistic. Consumer will is we all know the philosophy? Money will make you happy, but like damn going to give it a try. Yeah. It does it does it does take a lot of pain? So, there is a certain amount of money that once you once you have one you can. You can create opportunities for satisfaction. Number -tunities for happiness with a certain amount of money and that's. Self petunias that I have clients who are in those brackets that we talked about. the silly not happier than anybody else. I've ever met any other bracket, but they have access to things. Ways of being that can make them happy. As so you know, they can hire somebody to come and teach them to meditate and sit with them every day to meditate or whatever it is, but it still doesn't guarantee happiness by any stretch of the imagination, and and I honestly believe what Oprah said years ago. That money doesn't change people. It magnifies them yeah or miserable goats. You'll be a big miserable goat with money if you're a deliciously generous kind, loving person. With my you'll just be a deliciously kind loving person magnified. Jerry's agree that's. At right there, so. When you look out in A. In the world and you think about an again might be your own clients. Be Thinking about what you wrote about in your book. You talked about in the book. Who someone the the even that we might know who's really appears to be doing a great job of it I mean some people that come to mind, but I don't know if they they are the rights. Analogy of. His somebody doing exactly what we're talking about. Whether there's two after the pop right to mind that I think are in there, not my clients people that. Most of the world respects. Their financial position and in terms of their. Generosity. So Warren Buffett Bill Gates right like. and Warren Buffett is like he's famous for it. You know, don't sell. In One, thousand, nine, hundred seven, I don't remember the exact numbers in the nineteen eighty-seven When the market fell three two percent an day, he lost on paper, three hundred and eighty seven million dollars personal on paper in one day. And he do nothing. Right and. What did he do in two thousand eight when the world fell apart? He purchased he was a buyer. He bought Goldman Sachs. He bought you bought. A transportation bought banking he by the things that were the most suffering the most down. He bought the brand. We're going to last and survive. This is. This is really wines financially, but he also says you know. I think the tax rates you a higher on me than they on my reception's. Most of my wealth should actually going to good causes after I'm gone bill. Gates is the same way he created something that changed the world Microsoft issues the world and he he was made. Know totally wealthy by that. But he's also committing to give a lot of that back into a lot of good work, and he's curing disease, polio and on. He's active on four different strains of potential of potential vaccines for for covid nineteen he's. He's doing the good work and he is very successful injury, but it just as a human being I think he'd agree to. You know. Maybe the tax rates are low for us at that level. You know and. The person I was thinking. I asked you was Warren Buffett. Who is famously. Famously stoic about his investments and that he doesn't. He's not reactive for doesn't appear to be reactive. But. Looking at the market thing I mean even if you. If you buy in a down market. We know that in a way there were a lot of. Blue chip somewhat believed recession proof companies that disappeared. I mean they literally. Some of them were consumed close by other companies, but many of them just disappeared, and you know they're Big players in the world today who will disappear due to covid and and the pandemic, so I think that a lot of what you're saying about sitting on your hands. I get it I am extend it, and at the same time, the other part of it, which is the opportunity. How do you know where the real opportunity is? Because those that big investment company Lonzo's down well. Suddenly disappeared. You know eight. So I mean. I mean that's really true so. When you sit in your hands, you have to sit in your hands with the regular classes. I so one of the opportunities that this kind of dislocation gives us, and maybe it's past we we we down and we're back up. Right now. Maybe we go down again. I don't know if we go down again. There is another opportunity that opportunity is. Hey, maybe you've done it wrong till now. Maybe, it's time to get much more broadly diversified so that when? Await happens and one of those two of those three of those five of those tambor's companies just disappear. It doesn't affect you. You own five thousand companies. You own twelve thousand companies. You own those companies in a way that the academics support that works for long term. What are those? There's three there's three. There's three things academics tell us work. One is over long time not every time, but small companies up from large companies right second one is value performs. Growth doesn't have not happening right now, but a reliable time it happens right through one is. So, folks companies that produce in our profitable they they will continue to be so long term. On in the Agricole, one or two or three or five or ten go hundred anytime. You if you have the right process, broad, broad, broad global indication, and you apply those three sort of basic small value profitability. You don't have to worry about what one company or one issue or or one geography does. Because you own, you own it all and what you're investing is you're investing in future consumption your investment in the people who want to improve their lives because they're going to do it. Whatever company exists? You know I'm going to Indian food again whether it's my favorite restaurant or a different one I'm going Indian food again. I consume in food again. Once. The store on on wants a latch on the economy as open. I'm allowed to will go and do it again. Maybe maybe doesn't make it. That's okay. There's others like I'll find. You can move to Texas and all the restaurants are open air. I mean I'm in Berkeley Open, because I know I know. What you guys got no out right now. You know we're coming close to the end of this show and and. I want. To tell people where they can find out more about you and about your resources, but before we do that, you know one of the questions I like to ask to show which is. What is a simple practical piece of advice that you would like to leave us with potentially from your book that they would? Could put in inaction like. Preferably, next twenty, four forty eight hours. Stop Predicting Start Planning. Stop Predicting Start Planning predictions. Are you can't? You can't possibly know in your brain gets in your way when you try to predict start planning. Start Planning laid out. Take the small steps. Little steps at a time. Start Predicting Start Planning so. The just to go deeper on that. Does that mean listening to people who predict as well? So, if you'RE GONNA listen to one person, predict Seattle listen to a hundred. So. You have to let them cancel each other out, and you have to get different opinions and I I think you can stop listening to. Most people are predicting but. If you can't because you can't avoid news in everyone's on the Internet and you just can't wait it then you have to listen to you to go deep efforts to a lot of it, because then you realize. There's disagreement on every corner and it's very once you read it all that no one actually knows the all make great arguments because that's what they're supposed to do. Well, you know. Bill Gates is a good guy who is doing stuff to to create vaccines, and he's also trying to control the will to wipe out the population on. Listen to Ryan, exactly right red bull in those right exactly right so. I your cognitive biases. In the sense of when you just come back to the last part of what you're saying now, which is the plan? Again. It. There's a light predictions are million people offering plans. You know financial planners. Are you know almost as ubiquitous? and. Yes I was poking at both of those groups. So. No I mean I was so. Who Do you, how do you know who to listen to? Even the plan sense Jonathan, because that in itself can be confusing from. And I and I. think that's probably the most difficult question that somebody out in the public might. Stumble on because. It's it's impossible to tell until you walk down the path with a planner if the planning is is going to be any good and the way to tell, though if the first rule is actually got of you have to be a fiduciary. And that's you can just ask that. That's a question for and and the reality is about maybe twenty thirty percent of the people offer plans or fiduciaries, and you can ignore the rest complete until the rest, so that gets rid of a huge chunk of. But leaves that twenty three percent which you have to determine if they're going to be quality, are not. So, how'd you determine that? Well? They better ask you for every single piece of information in your financial life, all about all your goals, and basically they want to lay out. What it's going to be like for you to live the rest of your life cash loans everything they should be able to tell you. These are the assumptions we are making. And those assumptions batter square with reality. If they can't tell the assumptions, they don't have a plan if it doesn't square with reality doesn't have a plan. So what does that mean and he's when you go in to talk to somebody you've gotTa Know Kinda. What are reasonable assumptions like what are reasonable? Inflation rates were reasonable. Income increasing rates for your life? What are what are reasonable rates of return in your life? How do you? How can you actually tell if this plan that they're gonNA? Put all these numbers based on these assumptions that that works. They should be able to easily bring all the data you give them, but then the plan is only as good as the assumptions, and so you've got to be able to judge the quality of the assumptions going into those. Latin. Push back isn't an assumption prediction. Right. It's it's. Don't listen to anybody who's predicting, but listen to some fair enough. Chernoff. So what are you predicting, are you? Are you predicting a a specific outcome or long-term outrage up? Right I'm not I'm not predicting. Next week's going to happen next month next year, but I know there for twenty years, the likely of having a little bit higher inflation, the last twenty years is is high, but not. So three percent us at his inflation prediction I i. don't know what it's going to be, but then you can. That that gives you the baseline plan, and then you should rest nest the plan what happens if we don't get that what happens, you will get percents flation. What happens if our average returns aren't eight? What if what happens if there to what happens negative next twenty years? What happens? What do we have to do of our behavior? Our plan to make sure it's the works, and that's really it's about leverage. You're pulling about the outcomes that people the decisions you have to make because of the levers. You're pulling. You'RE GONNA. You'RE GONNA take a risk either now or later you have to take risks. which risks are you more ats to agree with long-term? Greg inside. Thank you so you. You Bet these please tell. Listeners off years where they can find out more about you your book and All. Your resources so obviously. The best place to find out about the books Amazon's order copy, and by the way we didn't. We didn't talk about this spot. If you go through the book, and there's exercise at the every chapter in the book and the reason we wrote, the book was people that went through, and did those exercises at the end of the book. They actually have a financial plan. It's it's written without without advisor to have a plan right, so that's that's one of the reason for the book. The Best of might not about us is to go to mindful dot money. You can find all kinds of stuff, but we do our educational resources as well as our personal CFO services. So mindful dot money, so don't be putting in a dot com. That's mindful dot money I know that sometimes confusing for people but. There are other. Ends to to you are als that are not dot com, so mindful dot money. That's why you can find out more, and you can also find more about Jonathan at do wells management I think right? Is that right? Yeah, that's their right now. It's all becoming mindful without money it's. Fabulous and of course mindful money is on Amazon. You can find the book that. Jonathan it was a pleasure. Thank you, sir, on a really appreciate you being with us very. Pleasure is mine and our hope. 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Born This Way

Bear and a Banjo

42:03 min | 11 months ago

Born This Way

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Like innocent on death row, missing to dear governor iheartradio APP on Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. And that's when the Fella next to me starts singing. And he's got a pal voice so the rest of us we start joining into. And Banjo. Walks on over and he stops. Any goes up to the man with the strong voice and he starts talking to. Real quiet and intensely. But I was right by him, so I can hear what he was saying. And I remember he's calling big. Mr Bill. And he's getting agitated. As unhappy ended up on a Louisiana road game. And this fellow, he's calling bear. I never forget it. Looks right in the eye and says back to. Me Mixed up with someone else. My name is led better. Great, what to be? Welcomed Barron Banjo. This episode made from the tape-recorded journalists of the musicologist Dr Mason be quick. Holder of the Henry Rollenberg Chair of American studies at University of locked. The one. In Mississippi of course. Dr Cues engage in a dedicated study of the two men referred to southern folk tales is Banja. Some stores are just too strange to believe. Today's presentation. Find Out. How Burn Banjo come to find themselves at the centre I ever musical prison break. In today's examination pertemps launch in the late forties and early fifties all the way back to the mid thirties. We go back in time to understand. Some of the folk origins of Baron Banjo. How they cross paths with pioneers recorded voice. And how in turn they disrupt history yet again in no small West Hitch, be mentioned that story. The duo does not happen sequentially for all intents and purposes their stories Lakewood through time. Certain events correlate other events, even though there seemingly unrelated and many times occurred decades. In two thousand and nineteen, I came into possession of a brown Durham. Seventy Eight RPM recording of the song. Call born this way in the papers of Oscar. Okay Alan at Baylor University Allen was governor of Louisiana from nineteen, thirty, two to nineteen, thirty six, when I played the record, it sounded like music. Maiden Nineteen Thirties although there were distinct echoes of the Delta Blues Vocal. Him Everything. Away. taught. Now. Nitric train on May. Label credited the performance to Walter Boyd. But I was certain I found another recording by mystery musician and referred to in southern folklore as Mr. The search for information about this elusive figure has overtaken my musical and sociological. Study Every new clue, each new testimonial or bit of evidence I uncover adds another piece to the Jigsaw Puzzle Picture I am working to assemble Mr Bear and his partner who called himself Jay Banjo seemed to have been present and even influential at many of the signal events in the history of American vernacular music from Parchman farm to New Orleans from the Bristol sessions. Two sons -Tudios. For years, experts haven't been able to agree on exactly where Barron, Banjo should even fit into the neatly categorized world of modern music, the pop up all around history. They're sort of like Kaiser Soza of the musical world. Musical ghost stories if you will. Story Beirne Banjo isn't just about music. Also about their proximity history. Luckily J. Banjo had the new technology on. The portable recording. Influenced by the characters he would soon meet. Lomax is in bear, believed that recorded music and voices of regular American. preventers to the rest of the ever expanding and Modern American. So they took the medium of recorded sound on the road to the people. Open up a whole new wave music which would in turn become the Fokker. This first wave of recorded folk music consisted primarily hillbilly songs, race records and other indigenous American sounds. Bear this musical opportunities voices for the voiceless. For Banjo, he saw dollar signs and another. Day Banjo here. I'm just outside New Orleans. We got some city full gear with technology to bring my songs to the masses. I missed my chance back with them Bristol sessions, but the Lomax here now. They've been canvassing the country. This is my chance to make it all the way to the big apple as a showman I haven't seen bear and some time now I'm making my way with or without him. Perhaps these tunes are enough to get me signed on merit alone, but if not, there's always bear if I can track them down timid. Where could he be? Where could he be? No one had seen the locks of bearer for some time. Barron J. Banjo parted ways after their initial Rana musical encounters in the early, not ten thirty. Day Banjo knew that in order to fulfill his musical drains. They'd have to remain. In the meantime there's that record and honing wrecked. The record credited to Walter boy did not sound like any record made in the nineteen thirties, or indeed in the pre vinyl era that is characteristic of the recordings made by the bear who seems to have been a johnny appleseed of musical. Some, of which had an immediate influence on entertainers, songwriters he encountered, while others lay dormant for years before finding expression and songs that appeared for the first time in the nineteen forties, nineteen fifties, and even into the nineteen seventies. Through the Library of Baylor University where Governor Okay Allen's papers are kept. I made contact with Dj. Brebner the son of the late governors longtime secretary body Bremner. It was my good fortune that bounty a- bachelor had cared for his father during a long convalescence and committed to memory stories. He heard many times. My father was the governor side every day Saturdays included and often Sundays as well. I heard him speak a number of times about this character Mister Banjo who I understand to have been a white man and Mr Bear who was a negro. My father thought it unusual that Mister Banjo appear to defer to Mr Bear. When they first came into the Governor's orbit, it was assumed that bad was banjos. Later my father said he was quite certain that the lines of authority extended in the other direction, although in those days in that part of the world is not something careful would've have advertised. During a sabbatical semester, I traveled to lose Yana with a copy of the song called born this way, and played it at African American retirement homes and to shreveport saloons that catered to a Clyde, tell of senior citizens. Several of the elderly patrons suggested that they knew the name of the singer on my tape recorder, but there was no agreement between them. Change Right. Now. My mind. Woodrow Adams I met him once in a while Mba saw him perform on the back of a cabbage truck. Yeah I know who? Big. TRAVEL WITH WHITE May! Not Kumate. I knew the man who name it, too. Big. Grading. Her newsroom from somewhat retinal couldn't help. Over two journeys, totaling thirty three days is symbol. What I believe to be the true story of how Governor Allan came into possession of the record attributed to Walter void. The more I learn, the more certain I became that I had indeed discovered previously unknown recording by the lost musician called Mr Bear. The first key was my discovery that during his days in the governor's mansion okay. Alan came to be acquainted with John Lomax. The LOMAX is people. You Might WanNa know if you're trying to digest the story rooted in American Twentieth Century History. They were folklorist and the Lomax John, and Alan Roam the American south, making recordings of spirits, blues and folk music. Google if you can. Interesting Feller share. Once I knew that I was able to fill in much more of the story with the invaluable aid of the lomax archive at the American folklife center of the Library of Congress. We owe much very understanding of American Blues. John and Alan Lomax. In the course of their journeys, low Max, father and son recorded prisoners like iron head Baker Clear Rock Platt. They were intellectual, bad acids and their day so was. John Lomax felt that convicts who had been locked up for a long time. perserve the purity of the folk and blues. Songs they remembered. uncorrupted by accessed the new inventions, radio and phonograph records the law Max's recorded non prisoners, too, and that is how they came to know. The man referred to in their notes as J Banjo. Today's the day I play my book repertoire from the NOMEX sure I might not be from the field or some small town, but I got folk music in me all that time spent with Mister Bay has brought it out I. Know I. see it and I think that they'll see that. I'm the real deep, and not some Phony Bologna city focus showy vaudevillian tricks to to make a quick buck, my songs that good and they're going to stand the test of time with or without bear. The lomax were approached by Banjo in a boarding house outside New Orleans. He said he had heard that the famous song collectors were passing through and wondered if he might see. They're recording machine. He explained that he was a musician himself an amateur collector of folklore. The father John Lomax was annoyed by this fast talking stranger young Allen was amused and showed him the three hundred and fifteen pound uncoated aluminum disc recorder that father and son drove from town to town. Of course, luckily for US songs and interviews, Lomax recorded from that era are available online for anybody to check up. Penny whistle mock. Was that though sessions and we pulled an interview of his account from the. Loses Fella. He asked if he might record a song on the apparatus. I believe he said he was curious to hear his own voice. The. Younger of the two told him he can come back the next day when they can be set up to the cord at the local Methodist Church Hall. Well the next moon that's strange fellow appeared at Church Karen a tenant guitar and waited walk. All sorts of the folks, singers, fiddlers, Banjo players and aspire and crews auditioned their songs. At the end of the session, the older one let that same fellow offer up a tune. And that was pretty good. We believe the person he was talking about to be none other than J Banjo. Banjo was confident as could be. He played not only to the recording machine and to the low marks, but to all the other aspirants in the church he offered a parade of songs that neither law Max had heard before. The RODEO at Cherokee slept. Home Horse home. Hordley her bones in the rushes. Roger! dickel, barrel. Aero. Ran. A banjos vocabulary was so wide Scottish. Irish Kentucky New Orleans skip rope songs. 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I thought I mailed the audition, but alas, I did not. The LOMAX is want to meet the bear fair enough so I'm going to take them to them. Even if I don't really know where he is at the moment last, I heard he's caught up nonsense New Orleans so shreveport here we come. The journey shreveport was not long, but the Lomax kept stopping the car to listen to and sometimes record the songs, a farmhands, peddlers and vagabonds. They encountered along the road. banjos sat in the back seat, playing song after unknown song on his Tenor Guitar. They were ten miles north of Angola when they heard a Lo- chanting choir. Angola used to be a slave. Plantation and plantation was named that because the country in Africa that most of the people were kidnapped from was Ango. If as a great nation on the West Coast of Africa Centre Trade Amongst people to the North South and east. Europeans came Dongola stole the people brought him to the new world in chains, dragging their independent work in the lowlands by the by. Thought. It was a pretty good joke to named Lysenko. Your home now you're in angle. What, a terrible joke! What a terrible place! As. They drove over a rise in the highway. Prison road game came into view. Father and son became as excited as hounds on the Fox. When the automobile with the strange recording contraption pulled up alongside the road gang. The black men stopped singing. The guard in charge was a tall, red headed man with a half moon cut out of his forehead, he was called Bull Ball and he wore a wide, brimmed yellow hat and walked with the Riverside Sixteen Gauge Shotgun Twenty at the Earth. Approach the car suspiciously. John Lomax explained he was traveling with a recording machine loaned to him by the Smithsonian. Institute, in Washington for the purpose of documenting vernacular songs of Rural America. Bull looked at him like he was trying to decide if he should shoot his tires. More pass win. Young Allen produced a book by his father. Cowboy songs and other frontier ballads. With an introduction by Theodore Roosevelt. Boom all was not impressed. natty Johnson was recorded years later for the low Max archives. He recalled the day he met the father and son. I remember looking over and pool balls standing there y'all was showing them miss. Not Having. You know he doesn't care about some book. I'm not even sure ball knew how to read and then I see the film in the back seat. The Banjo. Any pools out of Shining Watt. Go. With, a silver chain and boy that seemed to do the trick. Boo Ball. You don't like much, but I can tell you like that China. So I'll see him giving you the okay to get out of the call and this Banjo fellow. He's got his guitar route now. He's trying to get us to start backup singing. But everybody's a little bit nervous, not sure. You know. What this is exactly. What's going on? and. That's when the Fella next to me. He starts singing again. And he's got a powerful voice. So the rest of us we. Start joining into. And Banjo. He walks over and he stops. And he goes up to the man with a strong voice and he starts talking to. Real quiet an intense luck. Right by him, so I could hear what he was saying. And I remember he's calling him. Mr Bid. And he's getting agitated. asking. Them have ended up on. Louisiana Rogaine. And this fellow. He's calling bear on. Never forget him. He looks and right in the eye and says back to them. You, must have me mixed up with someone else My name is ledbetter. Banjo held his tongue. He was trying to the situation and mentally rifling through a file of tricks, hoaxes and long cons. Is Instinct and natural inclination was to maintain a poker face in all circumstances, but coming upon his friend chained to the caboose of the Louisiana road gang shook Banjos APLOMB. Bear was calm. He said he had a song. He would like to sing for the aluminium. Recording machine. He whispered some chords to Banjo while the lomax setup there contraption, and then with a hushed audience, a fellow prisoners, and a bull balls, nervous finger on his shotgun, the man called bear by Banjo and Ledbetter by the Guard sang a mournful song of despair. Sometimes I take a great notion. To jump in the river and drown. Chorused counter intuitively by a courteous goodnight Irene goodnight, Irene, I'll see you in my dreams. No one had heard this song before. When it was done, bear gave Banjo and instruction. Get that to the governor and tell them Hoodie. William ledbetter of Angola prison host to gain apart and to pursue a career in lobby arts. Banjo looked at the big man with an expression. It said. I hope you don't. Boo Ball comes over and he says. Okay. That's enough of this and you gotTA. Get Out of here. You got what you want to go on. You gotta go now. And, so Yogi back in the car, and as you're driving off the Fella next to me. He goes out while you're driving by. He says. Go to Shreveport. Firewall to boy don't Finn in street. and. I'm thinking hell. Pool balls not. GonNa like that. Fellow yelling out like that. And I look over at, but he didn't even notice because bull balls looking in his pocket and he's looking mighty upset. Then I see them looking all over because he already can't find his fancy new pocket watch. He's looking on the ground. He's looking everywhere. And it is gone. And he's staring at the car. Driving off in the distance and bull ball is mad as hell. I'll tell you what that time piece must have had a long chain. Well, this is new territory even for J. Banjo. Having. His longtime companion and friend pretend to be someone else. Not Even let non with a wink or nod, as he puts himself, smack, DAB, in one of the most dangerous prisons in the world. kind of feeling for a loop. But only went with their instructions head Louisiana. bums music in Louisiana had been happily described as an embarrassment of riches. Louisiana generated several seminal musical styles and contributed to the development of many other. So when Banjo father and son Lomax made their way to the Red Light district in Saint Paul Bottoms. They moved from honky-tonk two saloons body houses today. Each featuring their own assortment of live music. RAGTIME minstrel. PARLOR BALLADS And this must have blown their verbiage Ma. It was Banjo who spotted a chalkboard on the sidewalk outside a tavern with the inscription. Entertaining Tonight Walter Boyd on. Piano Mouth Organ, box and guitar. The three men entered the tavern, and we're at once overcome by singing voice of authority and great emotion. The man called Walter Boyd Sat on a three legged stool with a twelve string guitar across his lap, clapping his large hands, and stamping his right foot, while hauling yonder comes Ms Rosie how in the world that she no way. She wears her apron way. She wears her clothes umbrella on her shoulder piece of paper in her hand. She come to see the governor. She wants to free her man. The lomax sat there stunned by song after song. Rock island line. Where did you sleep last night? The gallows pole. When the set had ended Banjo followed the man who called himself Walter Boyd into a small back room and introduced himself as a friend of Mr Bear. Boyd was suspicious. Any bears. From the lomax archives. We have the only known account of lead belly describing this encounter. I asked Banjo fellow bear was a magician. Some kind of escape artist. He said it didn't look to me like he was doing any escaping. Acid you here alone. He pointed through the doorway into the saloon. That man and his son gave me a ride. They are music people from the city and came with a recording machine. Bear asked us to record a song of his and take it to the governor. Platform and ask for a part for Mr Ledbetter. He said he was determined to carry out his associates mission, but had some questions like why would a powerful southern white man like Governor Okay Alan Pardon an inmate in the worst prison in the south? Just because he liked the song. I, said Worcester the song by. The song had this pretty melody. A man says goodnight. Irene Al See you in my dreams, and then contemplates drowning himself. It's rumored that when Governor Allen was young, he had a sweetheart. He was fixed to marry. She drowned in machettes river on a paddle boat outing. The pilot was reportedly drunk. This woman governor Allen's young fiance was named Irene. This is where the story needs a little bit of explaining. Now it was making sense to Banjo. He had no doubt that he could persuade the governor of the righteousness of his calls and that if all else failed, he was not about bribery. He was just confused as to how house partner ended up sitting in a sale Angola under another man's name. Regardless! He believed the song that they have in hand, told the story of the beauty of the Christian soul of ledbetter. And would bring tears to the eyes of the confederate statues. And with that, their prisoner escape was now in its final phase. I heart radio in state farm know that the graduation stage is the first of many, and while grads may not be walking across one this year. They can get the off. They've always dreamed of with our new podcast commencement, featuring inspiring speeches from the biggest names like John Legend I'm honored to have the chance to speak to you to share in this special moment Katie couric. You'll need some very important life skills to move forward. 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He regarded the three visitors to his office with the weary patience of an executive used to having his day, interrupted by strangers endorsed by people too important to ignore. Later in life he would self document this incident for posterity. The whole thing struck me is more than a little peculiar, and I'll be honest I was not inclined to set loose violent convict on the say so of these three dim. Who I didn't know from Adam, regardless of their supposed connection to the vice president. These boys went on and on about this fellow. This live better in. Frankly I was unconvinced. We are not in the business of handing out. Pardons on the basis of musical talent s is not how it works. In the more these folks talk that me, the more I felt Abbas being fed line of bull. I got the sense that this Banjo guy in particular was some kind of a slick operato. He's telling me how this is the right thing to do. And how he is, tree is going to judge me kindly. He thought performed a small mercy. And that was about to send them on their way. When one of the Lomax boys tells me, the prisoner has written a song for me. As a gift. And Alad Man. I was intrigued by that. It may produce this record. They crank up. Some Jews burn phonogram machine. They brought with him. In it stopped play. When outcomes voice was anxious as home in his mournful as good draft. Good. I'll see you. I was moved. It took my breath away. And so I said to him. If that grant this pod. You'll give me your word. You take this man out of Louisiana, and he will not return. because. I didn't want this coming back to bite me. And, they agreed. So I called them even told in the draw up the papers to sit free for men Gola prison. Conduct name Hoodie live. That was. Banjo and the low maxes contain their excitement, and thank the governor, and promised to keep him appraised the career of this great musician he had in his wisdom emancipated okay. Alan nodded and asked if he could keep the recording of goodnight Irene. On the road back to Angola prison, the four travellers came upon a wagon, fooled by two old workhorses with a large figure wrapped in a prison blanket, holding the reins. As they pulled closer. They saw it was the man called bear. Both the. Banjo said Hello Mr leadbetter. I heard you were granted pardon. You are confused. Brother Banjo Mr. Ledbetter is behind the wheel of your own automobile. Bear knotted to ledbetter, who looked nervous about being so close to Angola pardon or not? To heads peaked up cautiously from the back of the wagon. Banjo asked. Who are your passengers? Recently deceased inhabitants of Angola prison this poor Lazarus and his companion is the son of the widow of Nain. Bear asked the lomax would mind switching passengers with him. And with that we have the first ever musical prisons caped and I know. This is how the man called Mr Bear smuggled the great. American Songwriter Huddy ledbetter out of Angola prison by changing places with him. Got Ledbetter a pardon from the governor and along the way managed to help a couple of other unfortunate prisoners find their way to freedom by way of a hearse wagon. As a scholar I have no time for stories of supernatural powers, but the man called bear was one hell of an escape artist. Lead belly went on decades decade, popular success recordings concert all over the United States and overseas. Many of his compositions, but came standards. The foundational texts of Popular Music of the twentieth century. Thousands of songs recorded by John and Alan. Lomax became the Treasury of American music. Preserved in the library of Congress. Don't countless was record leases. lomax save hundreds of folk and Blues Songs, and made the public aware of artists such Robert Johnson Woody Guthrie and muddy water. The song called born. This way was like nothing Lomax it ever heard before. And contained and rhythms of the future and the past. And the ghost of both. On. Everything Go Way. I. Raise rain on. Zuma freedom. Premium me to this foreign play. In the midst of Saying. How was? This way. Wasn't. When, they had finished recording, Banjo said. Lamont when you get home pressed one copy of that. Send it to Governor Avid. Tell him it's from Walter Boyd a citizen grateful for his support for the arts. My Name is Dr Abby quickly and these are notes on my search for the identity of the two men called bear and Banjo who appeared to be active in the American south from the Early Nineteen Thirties Joe perhaps as late as nineteen sixties. Accounts Vary and witnesses disagree there's so much we do not know about the providence of the American music that it is our culture's greatest collective creation and the true map of our nation's unwritten history. What else I have learned during my research, forbear and Banjo. We'll continue in my next post. Kathleen. Graduate Student type these off. Of coming up this season on barren Banja. 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AEW Sells Out

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AEW Sells Out

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Tickets went on sale this Friday, and it was another almost instant sell out with this cuss. What AWS is doing right as ticket sales are seemingly down for all of them. Vocations new Japan, pro wrestling, g one climax tournament kickoff in Dallas this July with discussed the a and b blocks, as well as two big matches for the tournaments debut in the United States, plus Barron, corbu pick the special guest referee for his universal champion. Chip rematch with Seth Rollins at stopping ground could the beast and carnage fill that role all that right now on the busted open pockets big news coming out of this weekend. Bullying it happened almost immediately after we signed off on Friday, and that's all out selling out and just under fifteen minutes. And Alex Mets and I were kind of discussing during one at a breaks on our show, Friday, how much time do you think would take for them to sell out, and we got the answer roughly at twelve fifteen in the afternoon on Friday? Another sell out for a e w Bowie are you shocked? I'm not shocked. But again record time and you know we've almost become accustomed to this taking place. But bully, you know, I like to dip in and it wasn't even that long ago. It was what roughly ten months ago, a year ago that we were talking about if the first all Lynn was going to sell out. You know, never was there an event like that, that size in pro wrestling outside of the WWE in quite some time, and they sold it out. And now it's become a common occurrence. You know we see all in sell out. We see the G one super card with new Japan ring of honor sellout at Madison Square. Garden, double or nothing, and now all outselling out, it seems the word or the term sell out his happening outside the WWE more often than not an especially when you never saw for almost two decades before it started happening last September. You know, I and I agree with you. The thing about all out being sold out, is yes, it is. It's definitely a big deal to be able to do it in fifteen minutes. It, it reminds you of how great the relationship is between the fan base of a e w and the company of a e w you can see the establish. Of a very loyal fan base, which is obviously job one you want your fans onboard every step of the way selling out, Chicago for the second time is a is a big deal, but I'm not it's not like earth shattering to me. I mean, we could pretty much assume that eleven the eleven thousand five hundred people that went to all in got tickets for all out. And if a couple of people that went to all in aren't going into all out there was more than enough people to get those tickets. So, although, like I said big deal, I'm not shocked. I'm not blown away. It's kind of expected. It chicago. I mean, I don't think any of us would have thought that they wouldn't have sold out. I agree. But I think the big telling number bully is the fact that there was an estimated seventy thousand people in line to purchase tickets for all out. So when you see those kind of numbers because, now you're talking into the sixty and seventy thousand plus the people are actually able to get tickets. So maybe even roughly eighty thousand people that were in line to buy tickets for that show. It's, it's an astounding figure just based on what we were seeing, you know, over a year ago in the landscape of pro wrestling outside the WWE you never saw numbers like this. So to see that kind of a number for an event outside a WWE for an event knock called wrestlemainia in the states. I think that's very very telling about what's going on with pro wrestling right now. So, so instead of selling out the Sears centre. With the amount of people that were in line waiting for tickets they got a probably sold out Soldier Field. They probably went into the stadium that the Chicago Bears played in and sold that place out with the amount of people waiting for tickets because you could just imagine every every one person. That's waiting for a ticket wants at least two, nobody's buying a ticket for themselves. So I mean, yeah, it's, it's a big deal and it goes to show you what kind of a path a e w is on. So I I wasn't shocked. Well, I think we were all shocked at all in sold out, so quickly obviously Dublin nothing. No shock. They're all out. No shock there. Let me ask you this though. Dave, it seems like everything that e w touches right now is turning to gold. However, are shows like fighter fest and fight for the fall in the one data taking place in Daytona Beach at Jacksonville are, though, so's shows sold out, yet, I have to. I have to check. I mean, I know those are shows on, on a lesser scale. How do you say e w and lesser scale right now, when you're the hottest thing, going there is no lesser scale. Okay. Would you say that's the equivalent of like alive event with the WWE so to speak for something like that? But here's the thing, if it was a live event, if it was. A closed door event. No matter what kind of vent, we've seen everything that e w has done right now sells out immediately. I'm just curious why the, the, the fighter fest in Daytona and fight for the fall in Jacksonville, which are smaller venue shows. How come those having sold out yet like you're getting the same talent on those shows that you're getting on all out? How come the demand for those shows are isn't through the roof? Like there's gotta be a reason. Why is there anybody on on one of the shows you're getting Cody and Dustin versus the bucks? Correct. Yes. That's not at all out. Is it now? It's not right. So much is at fight for the floor. So that's what I'm curious about right right now, they're doing so, well, no matter where they go. They sell out they sell out in record time. Everybody's talking about a e w they're on. On the, you know the hottest thing in wrestling right now, but they got to shows going on in Florida. Yes, neither one of them are sold out, yet, I'm sure they're really close where at least be interesting to see how many tickets have been sold and just curious. Why those of that? And those two shows are like within two weeks of one another, you know, one in Daytona Beach, and one in Jacksonville, Alex Mets are producing. Do we have any updates about ticket sales for those two shows fighter Festus, basically sold out? There's like a handful of lower level tickets. I mean handful like we're talking like maybe ten to fifteen lower level tickets and then some sparse, tickets up in the top top rose. But besides that I would you could prove him pretty much call fighter fest sold out at this point. Fight for the fallen. There's a lot of resale. Tickets available on TicketMaster right now. So basically, you can go to ticket master also now, kind of works like stub hub, you can go on purchase your tickets directly from the source. And if you want to sell them, you can actually put them back on TicketMaster resale price. But there are some other tickets in sort of the terrorists section of this building that have not been sold yet. But this one looks like it, most likely will be deemed to sell out once we get that close, but there's a little bit more tickets available for five for the fallen then fighter festive this point. And you know what it could be location. The greco. Yeah. I mean, the Daytona show that ocean center is a great is a great venue for wrestling, obviously. That's where HOGAN turned and join the NWF historic wrestling building. It's going to be in conjunction with I guess, to hold video game community and the Russian show this, I believe KENNY'S idea. So it's good to hear that, that's close to sold out. I just think maybe Jacksonville, not so much of a hotbed for pro wrestling, not necessarily a destination place to go, obviously places like Chicago and Vegas ultimate destination cities for wrestling. Maybe it's not so much, but it's still going to Las Vegas and things to do so. That's good to know that at least a Daytona show is close to show that a sauce. Yeah. Fighter fast is roughly about twelve days away and then fight for fall on his almost a month away. So there still is time to sell those tickets. I'm sure like you said bullied by the time we get to those events, they will either be sold out or close to being sold out. But it's a good point by with AWS as hot as it is. Right now, you know, you would think that everything they touch is gold. And when you look at their big events, obviously, double, or nothing. And now what we're seeing with all out. I mean instant sellouts and, and, you know, a line of people trying to get tickets. And it's going to be interesting to see pulley what happens wants to the show starts. Is the shine going to be a little off. Is it going to get bigger because you would think that once it's on TV the exposure is going to be bigger? So it's gonna be interesting. What happens with this company? Once we get to the fall, I think that all out will be very indicative of what's going to happen that first week of TV for a e w. Especially if another name gets added to the mix. The there's obviously, there's so much rumblings about it being Chicago. And what if punk shows up I mean, even with the crew, they have now they got, they have a heavy hitter crew right now who have a coolness factor that comes around every once in a while and pro wrestling, no other company has the coolness factor that a e w does everybody wants to jump on the w bandwagon, and rightfully so because it's a fun product. Whether you're watching one of their pay per views or whether you're watching being the elite you're enjoying yourself. It's also an alternative. I think a lot of the W fanfare is because people have just been begging for an alternative to the WWE now. They've got an alternative to the WWE they've gotten ring of honor, they've got new Japan. They've got impact. But this is a huge alternative. That will now be airing on TV that reminds people of the Monday night wars, even though it's not gonna be a Monday night war. It's as close to it as possible, and I believe, that there are fans out there that want to see the WWE taken down in one way, shape or form. I don't know why they would want to see that, but I believe they believe I agree with that, bully, I really do. I think there's a big portion of fans that want wanna see the WWE taken out. And I think there's a big portion of fans that want to WWE to get a kick in the ass. And I think whether you, if you've believed that eighty is competition or not you at least hope that with these sellouts with the show, starting in the fall that maybe that might be a kick in the pants that the WWE needs right now. Well, the one thing that I've told you on this show forever. Is that Vince McMahon is at his best when he has a goal when there's some type of competition, especially in this competition Vince loves to get himself into a good old fight, and he. He hasn't had a fight in a long time and just recently, he has lost some battles that he hasn't lost in a long time. He's losing financial battles. Let's take the one that is the most obvious. He lost one of his top stars one of his a level stars. He lost dean Ambrose to another company. When was the last time, Vince McMahon lost a talent to another company based on money. You're gonna have to go back decades to WCW. Yeah. I mean, they didn't lose Cody based on money. They didn't lose the bucks based on money. I mean, there were offers on the table to the bucks in Cody, okay? But dean was there. He was he was he had tenure there when he stay there as long as he wanted. I mean his wife is there things as far as WWE's concerning. Dean could probably have done no wrong, but he decided to up and leave why because of a competitive amount of money and not since. Eric Bischoff has come a long has Vince McMahon had to do that. And Tony Kahn is a new Eric Bischoff, when it comes to money, and he didn't like the creative process, and he went public with some of those things about the creative process as well likely you're hearing God's busted open, live, weekdays from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on Sirius XM fight nation channel one fifty six or on demand with the Sirius XM app. This was something that you just wouldn't have seen even just a couple of years ago in the world. The pro wrestling the fact that we're talking about all ow. An event of, of a of an organization that as hasn't even started their TV show yet selling out in fifteen minutes, and then the WWE has a pay per view this weekend, and they're struggling to sell tickets. Yet, econo- have to make the comparison. And right now the WWE is struggling it struggling in the ratings and obviously it struggling with their live. Events. And now they're struggling with their pay per views, I guess, struggling is a good word because we've never really seen them taking steps back on the surface. They're taking steps back in the ratings on the surface. They're taking steps back at stomping ground. With tickets still being available. I believe they've been taking steps back in the fans is for a long time with creative. I don't know if they've been taking steps back financially though, at the end of the day, we don't sit in the boardroom. We don't know the amount of money that's being made. I can't tell you this. And you know, it was out there, this weekend WWE is making sure that they do everything possible, not to take steps backward. Perception wise, I believe it was announced this weekend that Mike and Maria canals signed new deals with the WWE for five years now to put that in perspective. It's like if they're going to invest in Mike and Maria for five years. That's pretty telling about how they're not going to let anybody go. And this has nothing to do with Mike and Maria as people it has to do with them as talents and they haven't really done anything with Mike Maria right now as, as far as Mike being out there on to five live sporadically from performer point of view. I'm not quite sure why I'm investing in anybody for five years, let alone to people for five years, but I think it's very. Telling about the WWE and the perception that they don't want out there. They don't wanna lose anybody right now. And thus they're giving talents like Mike and Maria five year deals. I mean we heard rumors that they offered the revival. You know, some big money deals for three to five years, so talents that are definitively underutilized are getting ungodly contracts. Just so WWE can kind of, you know, put bandaids on the cracks in the wall when it comes to perception. Yeah. And then there's also there's and there's been reports of this for a while now bully about a lot of WWE town, and even talent within annex t that are looking into options outside is WWE, obviously w being the top on the list, so you can there's both sides to the argument. But like you just said, the WWE has the money like in the world of major league baseball. It's the New York Yankees. They have enough money where they can throw it in anybody, even if it's somebody that they're not going to use, so they don't go and move on to someplace else, and the WWE is in that position right now. Like I said, you take a talent like Mike and Maria over the past. Let's say one to three years of they really done anything, not them. So based on the way they have used them. How come they're getting brand new five year contracts? It doesn't the only reason why I see right now. Like you said, this is not a knock on, on those because they're very, very good talent. But it does seem like a band-aid right now bully, they don't want anybody leaving the company because this goes all back goes back to the crack in the wall theory. Dave, the more cracks Iraq and lots of people want outright. Now, you hear scuttle but whether it's on dirt sheets, or you hear scuttle but amongst the guys talking back and forth with one another and unfortu-. Definitely in wrestling. A lot of performers think the grass is greener on the other side, the minute that they hear that somebody has money, they always wanna run, and you know. Instead of thinking that the grass is greener on the other side. Why don't you take a moment to appreciate the green grass that you have under your feet right now? And there are a lot of performance. We have some really green grass underneath their feet in the WWE. And I'm not saying that creatively. I'm saying financially, an AWS not gonna take every single person. It almost seems like there's a there's a mentality out there amongst wrestlers that okay, I'm going to wait it out, or I'm going to jump ship, and I'm going right to a e w they have a budget. The confidently is very smart with the way they do business. I'm sure that they're at their budget limits right now unless a unique opportunity, unless a Siham punk or a Daniel Bryan, Ernie, g styles comes along. They're not just going to take anybody in everybody, and that's the thing to they already have a pretty big roster. So, I think in a lot of terms like you just said, Billy, they're probably set. For the fall, and obviously for the vents they're having until the fall. So I think unless it's a really big name, they probably are like, hey, you know, we're good. There might be room for one. Maybe two big names that they may want. But other than that, I think they have their roster pretty well set if I may he w and you know what they probably have the money to spend it on anybody, and everybody who they want. But then they would be going over budget. And I don't think a company like eighty w that's just starting off wants to go over budget. I think they want to stick to their guns and stick to the money this way, every everything makes dollars and cents. You don't wanna come out of eighty w in your first year going, oh my God. Look how much money we lost just because we went over budget, just because we got greedy and tried to take everybody on board. And that's what people in the WWE have to realize they're not going to have a place to go. If not everybody's going to have a place to go if they leave so appreciate the green grass. That you have under your feet in the WWE and do the best. You can I know that there was an interview recently, one of the one of the veterans from the locker room talked about how guys and gals and WWE needs to stop complaining and just go out there and get over and we've had this conversation many times on the show. Dave getting over in the WWE is almost impossible these days unless you're chosen to get over back in the day, if you can get yourself over creative with right for you. Now you have to be chosen by creative to get over. I witnessed I witnessed guys go out there every single night just three years ago. I witnessed dolphin guys like the MS who were destroying it three years ago, who only recently got a taste of the action. Again. Unless they choose you unless you're the chosen one unless they want you to get over. You could go out there and have the best match on every house show every live event every pay per view. Unless they have something definitive for you at ain't happening. If you don't know Sirius XM than listen, up commercial free music, plus sports, comedy, talk, and news. They had it all a lot of people think you need a car to enjoy Sirius XM. But you don't you can listen outside the car right now. You can get your first three months of Sirius XM outside the car for just one dollar. Just go to siriusxm dot com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe, you can listen on your phone at home and online that Sirius XM dot com slash busted. Offer available to new series XM streaming subscribers. Siriusxm no car required. New japan. G one climax. Twenty nine blocks were announced, obviously night. Number one is in Dallas. We talk about slow ticket sales sales were pretty slow for the G one in Dallas. But I think things are going to start picking up because it's going to be headlined with. Cada and Tana hush in Bucci versus Ganta. So I'm sure boy, that's going to improve ticket sales and again, we're still a few weeks out before that event one where those two matches announced this warning. Okay. So it'll be interesting to see what happens within the next twenty-four hours. Yeah, I'm really, really interested, Alex. I'm sorry. I'm having trouble pulling it up. Do you have the blocks for the G one right now? Yeah. Give me one sec. Okay. We're going to give him a second, because, you know, this is a big deal. And I think, and I watched it they had two hours of dominion on access this past Friday. So again, we've talked about a bully new Japan kinda got lost in the sauce. But I think since the garden show things are starting to pick up a little bit for new Japan. I don't think new Japan has ever taken a step backwards. I think that they're struggling a little bit in the US markets. Hopefully these these additions to their shows will pop the house, so to speak. But what if they don't? That's a good question in Dallas. Dallas is a pretty big wrestling market of mocks. We on the show. For mean as of right now, I'm going to say, no. So if you're unfamiliar with how the g one climax works each show, a block of the tournament gets a night. So it's like you know you'll have a bunch of Abe lock matches on one night. And then the following night, you'll have the b-block matches. They do two shows in the same town for the most part, there's only one night in Dallas. It is a block matches. Moxley is in the b-block. The only matches now so far are the block matches for that event. But I would be shocked if he didn't end up this somewhere on possibly some of the non tournament matches on that. Okay. You know what I mean? I get it. Once you have haven't been announced yet, and here's what you have to do if they announced his too big matches for the Dallas market, and tickets sales are still soft. That's when I think you have to announce Moxley is going to be at the this show because you're going to need somebody that, that American fans truly know and can relate to you. Got to think about it. How much of the new Japan fan base is in Dallas, Texas, how much of the new Japan fan base is in Texas, how much of the new Japan fan base is willing to travel to Texas for an a block g one climate show. All of these factors come into come into play with why their ticket sales right now aren't exactly where they want them to be. Yeah. And it makes sense because you really did a great job of breaking down Bali how much, you know, like if this show was in New York, I think it would probably be sold out by now but being in Dallas, Texas. Like you said, how much is there a demand to see new Japan wrestling in Dallas, Texas? Then you said, Texas and then are people going to are people going to travel? And now you're looking at the summertime there's a lot of events obviously, at the end of August. You have all out in the beginning of August you have summer slam. You know, those those are events that obviously people are going to are going to travel for are they going to travel for new Japan? I guess, only time will tell and we'll see if these matches that now have been announced are going to drive ticket sales. Maybe this is discussion that we need to have by the end of this week to see if there's been any improvement with ticket sales. How big is the venue? I know. So they're playing at American Airlines arena, which is where the where the Dallas Mavericks play too big for combined building. But I think if I'm not mistaken Alex, they are kind of, like, blocking off some of the sections in that arena. Well, yeah, I believe they're not doing anything in the top top bowl. It's all like the middle section the lower bowl in the floor, and you would have to think the reason this venue was selected has to do with access TV's ties to the Dallas Mavericks, Mark Cuban that that's probably why they're having this. Okay. So let's be fair as possible to them and analyze it. Honestly, how many tickets are available for the show. Are they selling five thousand seats? Are they selling ten thousand skeets? What is the building scale to do? We know that information. I don't believe is, we know how many tickets they've sold. I can look at TicketMaster and tell you what they have left. My, my point is this Dave, and I'm pretty positive that you great. The new Japan wants to make an impression in the American market, right? Yes. This is a pretty big show. Is this as big of a show as new Japan has run in the US, I would say, yes, because it's a g one, g one climax? Yup. Okay. On their own, too because to be fair, what they did at Madison Square Garden was with ring of honor, so the stuff that they did out on the west coast was with ring of honor talents. Also, right? Yeah. Was the I think the cow palace show though is strictly a new Japan show, if, if I'm yeah, it was strictly, a new Japan show. So in a situation like this, where new Japan is running on its own, and they want to create a good perception for themselves in the US market, all hands on deck. You do whatever you have to do. They already added to big match. Ios with big names if that is not helping. Now you have to bring in your biggest gun, and I think the biggest gun in the US market for new Japan right now is Moxley, I agree. And you need to have that, that type of talent, if you're afraid that it's not going to sell out, likely you're hearing God's busted open, live, weekdays from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on Sirius XM fight nation channel one fifty six or on demand with the Sirius XM app, we're gonna find out tonight who's gonna be the special guest referee for his badge against Seth Rollins for two universal champion and baron. Corbin is going to choose who to special guest referee is going to be, so let me ask you Billy any guesses on who the special guest referee could be before. I take a guess I wanna know like here's a storyline point. Here's the connecting of the. Dodge who empowered Bauer and Corbin to make this decision while I'm guessing it's dating back to the match took place last week, where Seth Ron's lost by Q, and I'm sure Shane McMahon, and, you know, they they're Barron. Corbin happy with his his, my point, who's in charge of raw and smackdown the well, if you listen to the McMahon sits, the WWE universe, but that's a lie. Okay. But, but it's hunter it Stephanie Shane and it's Finch right of the people that are in charge. They took back control of Ron smackdown like four months ago. Right. Yes. So who empowered baron Corbin to choose the referee of the match? This is the connecting of the dots that, that, that pisses me off. Well, Alex vets actually did some research knowing that we were going to be talking about this today. He did some research, and so Alex, Mets explained the bully, and everybody else. What the story is, how did it lead to baron Corbin getting to choose to special guest referee is going to be an is universal championship batch at stomping grounds? The long the short of it is there is no explanation. Okay. So if you go to WWE dot com, every Monday, they have a page where you can go to where they give the preview of what's coming up on raw tonight, right here on the front page, who will be bearing who will bear in Corbin. Choose as special guest referee, the explanation, Barron, Corbin gets to select a special guest official for his universal championship match on Sunday against Steph, Seth Rollins at stomping grants. And he'll reveal that decision live on raw. Thing grounds. That's all that's all that my point is this, what would it would it have been so difficult to, to put out a social media video on the WWE's Twitter with Stephanie or somebody just saying this Monday night on raw baron. We are empowered baron Corbin. We're allowing baron Corbin to choose to the special guest referee is. How is that so difficult, I gotta go back there has to be because you're getting the point and they're trying to connect to dots without the dot in the middle? But you could go back and you could find the answer. But we need to be told as an audience, why he's being allowed to choose the referee. But bullied, the WWE always connects the dots. There's always continuity from storylines. Storyline days, got to be an Asian have a wrestler picking the special guest referee, without telling us why he's allowed to so he's he's allowed to pick the special guest referee for a match between him and the world heavyweight champion. I wrestle champion this has to be titled universal chat line doesn't have any say in it. So somebody is obviously trying to screw over the universal champion. So let's find out who it is. Somebody has to empower him to me, that's a major major hole in the plot. Yeah. I got I got I'm trying. I'm trying to remember from last week in the main event. If if that was a stipulation for, for the match that took place. Now, Sammy's Zane was the special guest referee last week. And I believe Shane McMahon, Shane McMahon, you know, made the announcement that Sammy's aim was going to be the special guest referee last week, correct. To get my point, I course I get your point. I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to connect the dots here bully. I don't know if that, sorry, I just I think I mean, I don't know if this will help but maybe this is a little bit something we can add to the puzzle here. So WW sent this tweet out on this late last night, according to Barron Corbin WWE's living or WW, w Rollins sorry, that's his handle. Seth Rollins is living on borrowed time. And this is the this is the clip that he that he put out there. No, you're living on borrowed time town tomorrow night. I choose my referee. It's a fair game in a fair game. You got no chance. So baron Corbin the he'll believes adding referee of his choosing. Makes it a fair game something. Yeah. That helps not is this just the way once again to try to make Seth Rollins. The sympathetic figure that make him the underdog to get the fans behind him. That's if that's if this is the way they're going about it. I don't think it's going to work. If you wanna make if you wanna make the match interesting, who's the most obvious choice for the special guest referee. I think it's should be Brock listener. Ding, ding. Ding circle gets the square Johnny, tell them what he's one day. Look Greco you've won a year supply of Dinty Moore beef stew. I always thought it was turtled laxed. That's usually what you got to. Yes. And Roman noodles. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But if you're a college that would have been the jackpot. Yeah. So Brock lesser is a special guest referee. If I could see Brock lesser holding up a beat box and dancing around, I could see Brock lesser as a referee, that's intriguing because you never know what's going to happen at any given moment. Brockett cassian. I mean, that would be. Here's the thing you had Sammy's ane last week. If it's like Kevin Owens, that feels like what we just saw last week. If you're if you're touting this and it's for a pay per view match, it's gotta be somebody big, and if it's Brock listener, what is that going to lead to and would baron? All right. And let's think of it logically for. Let's forget about why people would want to buy a pay per view, or subscribed in the network to see this. But let's think logically for a second, which at times bully, you know, is tough to do. Why would why would Barron Corbin of all people have Brock Leslie, there'd be the special guest referee? Now, I agree with you. I think it should be Brooke, but why? Would Barron Corbin want Brock to beat a special guest referee, no idea, probably would it would not make sense within storyline for Barron to one Brock a parents, not going to sit there and go Hm who should it be who should it be? It should be Brock because barons, not stupid enough to think that Brockman turn on him in a heartbeat of coup bells. I'll, I'll hire Brock. And then after I beat Seth Brock won't try to cash in on me because I hired him to be the referee. You know, but that I don't believe that's the logic the logic is, who can we put the referee shirt on that will make people want to turn in just because of the morbid what's going to happen factor? And he set a sheer sheer, you know. You know what's the word? I'm looking for. Whatever. Cheer. Whatever. You know what the opening sheer speculation? Okay. It can't be either Sammy or Kevin Owens. Now, I know Sammy and Kevin for whatever reason become chummy chummy, with baron Corbin out of nowhere. But okay, yet Sammy's Zane last week, Kevin Owens is always by his side. So maybe logical dictates Kevin Owens, but honestly, Seth has gotten the best of Barron, Kevin and Sammy lately. So if, if Kevin Owens is named the special guest referee for this match it doesn't add anything to for me. So you're a fan right now. If baron Corbin comes out. And he says that Sammy's AIn is the special guest referee, you interested, no, Kevin, Allen's no rock. Yes. There you go. But again, logically, it doesn't make any sense. Maybe at times, I can't think of things logically and honest to God like you're so right? And Alex Mets play in that clip. That's. Running on social media, that was on WWE dot com. That doesn't explain anything to me. Why does Barron Corbin who was a GM that they knocked? They kicked out of being the general manager is now making decisions on who to referee is going to be in the universal championship match. That makes no sense to me. Listen, I don't mind baron Corbin having the opportunity to make the decision as long as I know who empowered him to one of the McMahon's have it in for Seth Rollins. They all do for one reason or another. I mean go, you could date back years as why the McMahon family would have beef with Seth. I mean, think about the match at wrestlemania between Seth and triple h and Seth knocking into a triple, h knock into Stephanie, and going through a table. But you have to go way back and remind people of that, Dave, you're going so far back the attention span of most fans is, is not doesn't go that far back that it's week to week booking. So tell me, which one of the McMahon's would put baron Corbin in charge of choosing a referee. It makes no sense. And it's just a thought that is not connected. It's universal championship match and the challenger just gets the twos. The referee it's, it's. And again, maybe my memory is mistaking me. It's got it's got to come back to what happened last week in the match last week. I'm just trying to remember in. Maybe somebody could refresh my memory was there, a special stipulation in that match that accepted and win that Barron. Gets to gets to pick the referee for the match at stomping ground. You don't remember that? I don't remember that. Alex doesn't remember that maybe a fan remembers that yet let us know. And you know what? It's sad that I can't remember that bully because I'm usually good at that stuff. But you gotta start adding a little. A little something to what's going to be taking place on Sunday. We mentioned there's not a lot of buzz around this, pay per view. Ticket sales have been extremely slow for WWE pay per view. Seth Rollins Barron. Corbin reeks of something what we just saw. I don't know because we just saw does this go back to their to the match at Saudi maybe. Also, there's a fatal five way match to determine who's going to face some oh, Joe for the US championship at stopping grounds, as well. Plus, on tonight's raw Daniel Bryan is a wild card so you'll see Daniel Bryan tonight on Monday night, raw okay does that make you wanna tune into raw? I mean Daniel Bryan is is a draw to me. So maybe that yes, there's this partner. Because any of the tag team champions. Yes. May why are we seeing them on his own, and maybe you'll see your own a maybe you'll see him as well? I don't I don't know as of right now all that's being advertised is that Daniel Bryan is a wildcard, but yes, he is one half of the tag team champions, and as of right now it only says, Daniel Bryan, not the entire tag team. How come they haven't changed the, the tag team championships into the hemp championship that we saw him wearing with the world title? Maybe that happens on raw tonight, they're still wearing leather. And I thought Daniel Bryan was against that he is connected dots change one championship. You've got to change the other Alex bets so going back really quickly to Rollins and Corbett in the special guest referee. So I did a little digging. I went back to super showdown even to see if there was anything there, and that's kind of where all this started because he felt he was screwed out of that, that chance that chance at the title by the referee there. So the next night on raw they. Start the show. Rollins is in the ring Corbin comes out. And he had this to say of my time is acting general manager of Monday night. Raw learned a few things. Today at put those things to us been in meetings all day long with WW executives and well, that w w fischel is going to be severely punished, and, well, you know, the other detail, I get my rematch at stopping ground. But there is one more detail to make sure there's no mishaps or mistakes. We'll have a special guest referee. And we'll because of my amazing negotiation skills. I get to hand pick that official, so there you go. So because Barron, Corbin loss to Seth Rollins at super showdown that gives them the right to be able to pick out an official for his rematch that he really shouldn't get because the deserve one at stomping grounds and they wonder why ticket sales are slow. Sorry man that just doesn't make sense to me. You have thirty seven people on creative. You just hired for more. And that's what you came up with sorry, can't buy into it could've been could've told them much better story, and that story could have been that he that he that he that he used his negotiating power to show how he was screwed over at stomping grounds and made a case for himself. And because I was able to convince this WWE official they. Agreed that I was screwed over thus giving me my rematch in vessel allowing to me my own referee. So I could not be screwed over again. They could've went into some, some kind of detail as opposed to just glossing it over. Right. So if I remember correctly. And please stop me if anyone remembers the match barren barren Corbin had the chair he was going to use it on Seth Rollins. He went up to us. You went up to hit Seth Rollins with the chair, the referee grab that chair from baron Corbin. Seth Rollins rolled them up and got the victory. So I'm guessing. And all the then after that was all the nonsense with aim and drip, in Brock and the cash that never happened. So I'm guessing that Barron, corbin's bone. The pick is the fact that he wasn't able to use that share, you know what you shouldn't be using in the first place, the referee, stop them from using the chair distracted baron Corbin enough that Seth Rollins got the roll up in the pit and thus now has the freedom to pick his own. Referee for the match at the pay per view on Sunday and that story could have been told I know it's illegal to use a chair, but it is my discretion whether or not I wanted to use the chair and get disqualified. The referee is not there to take a chair out of my hand. The referee is there to disqualify me, if I use the chair, the referee, is there to count, if I use the chair, the referee is there to throw them out chat. If I use the chair, not to put his hand on a wrestler, and I presented my case in a way to that WWE official where I made them see my way, I made them see my point of view and Thus I have been granted my rematch not only have I been granted. My rematch. I've been allowed to choose a referee of my choice house that day, that's, that's not bad. Now it still doesn't make a lot of sense because why if barren Corbin with if barren core was the champion here and said, hey, you know what I wanted to use that chair to get disqualified? So I can retain the title but. It doesn't make any sense, you would use the chair to get disqualified, his the challenger prerogative. I'm not telling you what I'm saying is perfect. I'm saying it makes a lot more sense than what they did. And that it's just like what a litigator does in court, they just changed some words around and meet. They try to make the jury see it from their perspective. No matter how wrong, it may seem the referee had no business taking that chair out of my hand that referee could have disqualified me if I did use the chair, thus the referee, took it upon himself to interfere in my match. Maybe I wanted to be disqualified. Maybe I didn't want to win the championship that night, maybe I wanted to inflict pain on Seth Rollins. He have said anything and as far as I know, and it's and I remember that matchup, and great job by Alex, playing that explanation, the raw after super showdown because I honestly, don't remember it. Why? Because I don't think Baroness talked about it since then, like I don't remember anywhere in between that baron Corbin or Bica Cora, anybody explained that. Dave, as you said, earlier, a lot of the times, things don't make sense. I liked them. Connect the dots. I don't like giant holes in the story at the end of the day. Is this really a giant hole in the story is it really going to matter because once they announced you the special guest referee is tonight, especially if it's Brock nobody's gonna nobody's going to? Wonder why I will be wondering why he picked Brock though. And obviously, the reason Brock is going to be kicked picked is, because that's what's going to bring is to the product. You're going to you're going to tune in just to see if Brock is going to cash in real Brock screw over Seth. And again, that wouldn't make any sense logically for baron Corbin to big pick Brock because again, why would he put himself in that disadvantage? Thanks for listening catches. Weekdays on busted open from nine AM to twelve PM eastern on, Sirius XM by nation channel one fifty six busted open odd cast.

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154: Scholarships for Student Activists

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154: Scholarships for Student Activists

"Scholarships for students who are involved. That's we're talking about in today's episode. College is expensive, but there is financial help available. You just need to know where to find it with her experience in helping her son when more than seven hundred thousand dollars in Scholarship Money Pam Andrews shares advice that helps high school. Students get into their dream, college and secure scholarships that will pay for it. Parents in this is. Is your place to gain practical easy to follow advice on the college process as well as tips from past scholarship winners, and now here's your host of the Scholarship Shark podcast. Pam Andrews Welcome back to the Scholarship Shark podcast. I'm Pam Andrews your host and in episode I am concluding are two part mini series where today I'm talking about scholarships for students who are involved in activism or in their community. 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Barron Prize for Young Heroes and this scholarship celebrates inspiring public servant. Attitude and spirit in young people from different backgrounds all across North America so each year they honor twenty five outstanding young leaders ages eight to eighteen, who has made a significant positive difference to people and the environment. This scholarship opens annually in January and closes in mid March awards notified in September now. This is a big one, so winners can win ten thousand. Thousand Dollars and that ten thousand dollars can be applied to either the your higher education cost, so you can use it for college, or they can use it to continue to find their service project. There are few really nice up prizes that go along with the ten thousand dollar award. There's mentoring. They offer networking as well as a couple of copy of books. That were written by the founder and as well as just an really nice award ceremony, and there's great media coverage, so this is really a highly selective very prestigious third. The winners of the Gloria Barron Prize must demonstrate a positive spirit, courage, intelligence, generosity, and a a high moral purpose through their project. They need to show initiative, tenacity and unselfishness in the pursuit of their goals. And it must be beyond just surviving a personal challenge. They really want to see the impact that you've had on either your community or the world. And then finally, if you want to join a youth led Movement for good where you'll make an impact with millions of young people worldwide and earn a chance to win some scholarships. Then this next one's for you and that is do something now. I did a podcast episode episode number one twenty three. where I interviewed do something to talk about their scholarships, and what they look for and winners in how the process takes place so definitely. Check out that episode I'm GonNa Lincoln in the show notes, but if you're twenty five years younger, and you live in the US or Canada or your the citizen of of either country, but you're living abroad and you really enjoy volunteering. This is a great scholarship opportunity for you now. You have to be eligible to win by doing some. Some kind of community service project and there are all kinds of projects that are listed on their website. There is no essay and no GPA requirements. No recommendation letters no applications and you can enter multiple times. They have awarded over one point two million dollars in scholarships in the past six years, so don't worry if you're not chosen yet, you know there are plenty of opportunities to continue to apply to win, but again their focus is on having young people who do something. So. I just wanted to share a few scholarships. For students to consider to check out were focuses on leadership and activism and getting involved in making a difference either in your community in your maybe in your school or in the world. I also have a wonderful resource that you can go to our website. The show notes and you can download that, and it's full of even more scholarships for students in terms of volunteerism and social justice. They were just too many to talk about here, so there are close to thirty scholarships on that list so definitely. Check that out as well so I WANNA. Thank you for joining me for another episode of the Scholarship Shark. podcast I'm Pam Andrews your host and is where we help you. 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Strange Juans: Psychedelics, Comedians and the Last President!

Strange Brew Podcast!

1:12:06 hr | 3 weeks ago

Strange Juans: Psychedelics, Comedians and the Last President!

"Strange strange strange him. This time for strange wines with host Tom, cat strange brew podcast, and this is gone from the one on one part that's get strange. There's a reason education. Is the same reason that will never ever ever be fixed step we're going to get any better don't look for it. Be Happy with what you got because the owners of this country don't want that I'm talking about the real owners. Now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice you don't. You have no choice you have owners, they own you they own everything they own all the important land they own and control the corporations they've long since bought and paid for the Senate the Congress the state has the city halls and got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies. So they control just about all of the news and information you get here they got you by the balls they spent billions of dollars every year lobbying lobbying. Took what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves in less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking they don't want well informed well, educated people capable of critical thinking and I didn't. She didn't that that doesn't help them. That's against their interest. Rate. They. Don't want people smart enough to sit around the kitchen table to figure out how badly they get fucked by assistant. The threw them overboard thirty fucking years ago they don't want that. You don't they want. They want obedient workers fog is up bro what is going on man? Friday. Yeah Yup fucking further listeners recording on Friday so happy. Friday. Think Twenty first four, thirty, five, pm Eastern. Standard Time and I'M GONNA. Crack a beer. Shitty crack on the Mike. Whoops some spilling on myself. This is from Mash, potato brewery, which is actually in the city that I live there just kind of going like they need to get a fucking better designed for their can. It's just like a fucking sticker see look this is a black can with random sticker on it. But like their beers actually pretty good in their local and you can kind of go in sit like fucking give you craft beers but I you not allowed to fucking sell beer without food. So probably just give you peanuts or some. Shit. In Canada, you're not legally, you're not allowed you. Sell Booze unless you have Fudo. So. Bars will literally just have peanuts on the table and that's good. Enough what the? Yeah isn't that I guess not now that covert I. Think it was probably probably lighten up a bit now, but it's because especially maybe it's not bars I think it's just mainly restaurants you can't just have a place to come in and. I think he's all because you can't drink and not have some to eat because then they can say like older too drunk or some fucking shit. fucking. We I remember hearing that I don't know if it's true or not. I'm going to start I'm going to go ahead and go grab some craft beer or something dude. Is when we do these You'll have your beer over there and then I'll present another one. fucking. Strange Brew Strange. Winds. Right. Because I love my crap. Here's is actually the first time trying this is called the Vancouver. Maneuver. It's pretty good. Actually, it's not bad six point six. It's decently good. I Vancouver's over and. That's why it's weird. Maybe one of the dudes from Vancouver, some of the disrupted candidate because the dudes that own it or is in Brantford where I live in Ontario Vancouver's like on the way other side. Yeah. There's some local breweries here that have some really nice beer dude like good. I love. As then. Do. Different. Different craft beer I know it's it's really hoppy. That's why I like it because trump no I like I'm a logger Guy Bro yeah longer. I like the smooth, Masino. Yeah. Walkers yeah they're not fucking. They're never liked to strong always drink like one two beers. I'm fucking when their ten percent shift. All right. So you won't we can kind of get into this is. We're GONNA touch upon strange brew longtime ago, and then just never ended up happening and it makes sense to do it now since. You guys are having your election come up with good old creepy Biden trumpy pants. But we in the last president a whole conspiracy about maybe the Barron trump his son and this time traveling conspiracy theory. Refers to a series of coincidences between the literary works of Ingersoll Lockwood and modern. Particularly involving lockwood character Barron trump and the United States president donald trump's youngest son Barron trump. So it's a goes deep like there's a it's a weird shit. I remember seeing weird memes about this like a like last year. Not to disprove this Friday off the. I've seen the cover when did that cover come out? Of the Book Yeah isn't let me check. Came on eighteen ninety. That original cover. The picture that you see on the meam is that cover from eighteen ninety three I don't think so I'm pulled up. If you are the original book cover. Yeah. It's different than I. Know What? I mean though because like it'd be easy to. How it is now with the fake news and the information to Kinda. SORTA make something that I from what I saw. A looks exactly like Barron trump. and. That's why it's also like people are saying it's coincidental. Let me look here I. got it. Really. Looks exactly like I mean I. The. The little guys are pretty good synchronicity. Well the guy in the weird costume. Yeah In the original book cover was the one. The. Barron trump's the journey and it hasn't kind of. Looks like a fucking boxer. Some Shit. Here. But it's weird that also like that one version of the cover I think came out in like the eighteen ninety. What I'm thinking of isn't even the cover. Do I think the drawing on the inside of the book? The one where he's got the dog and he's wearing a weird ass fucking cost you. It does kind of look like him. That is actually it's from it's inside the book is from the original book could trying that this do did. And it Kinda right? It does fuck and really look like Barron trump yeah I don't know how much of. Synchronicity or coincidence that that's what I'm saying because you know how it is people nowadays though they'll take any random video and be like Oh this happened and you look really looking at two and a half three or four years ago. Or, should up now you know what I mean like The whole election bullshit an end. Bro I just don't under- you guys just had your election onto Longoria. A while ago. fucking troodos this bullshit. I don't understand. Bro. And I was talking to my girl bought this down a pod as I've never been so passionate about something that I'll go out in the streets tomorrow you know what I mean like to protest about something and I kinda sorta admire people who actually do that because it's like while you're that passionate the only thing that I would ever actually go out and like. The march about is the whole save the children thing because. There's obviously a problem. There's. A fucking huge problem and it's funny that they're just starting to look at that problem, which is probably one of the biggest problems on earth is child trafficking in and you know. We talked about this on the alien abduction episode a along Glass Jere your fucking two years ago. Just about. They're not just all going to fucking sex sexual. There's like three hundred million children that go missing a year. They're going to the reptilians being eaten alive in the fucking underground. been last night actually while I was working, I was watching the Joe Rogan episode with the First One with Alex Jones and Ashcheulov old man. All the shit that he said, what was that a year ago two years ago long ago it was a lot of true like people hate Alex Jones, but it's like a lot of this shit that he says, Ninety five percent of the time is true. See now. I wouldn't say that I always say that like out of he, he's right thirty to forty percent of the time. Shitty says that like it could be some outlandish shoot let's get the. Some of the stuff he says could be true but this is almost the way he says it and the way he like he's if you want to talk about a passionate person, he's fucking passionate. Can give himself a heart attack on air the where he fuck it the way he talks man. Who they think he what's that one comedian? Fed. Visibility. Yes Bill Hicks. Very great comedian. Go back listen to him. He had a lot of different points about the world and. was being having fun. Say He's him because of his whole standup was like that like politically I've never heard it but from what I've read right but like have you ever listen to George. Carlin. Is that thought one old white white yeah. George Carlin is probably one of the most. He died. Yeah. He died natural causes that they're pretty sure but. His political views and his views on the world are extremely correct in my point of view the. Whole thing where he the beginning was just a comedian and he did like the seven words you couldn't say. For the fans is kind of a free for we're also adding in the trump fucking conspiracy. Conspiracy Shit. But the fact that like he before he was doing, do you like the seven words you can't say on TV you can say. You can say ask but you can't say asshole he did this whole thing and it was pretty funny like you can say Bubis can't say tits you can say but you can't say fuck like he would he went to this whole thing and it was hilarious but when his career cut in when he was getting older honestly and this is what David Chapelle does. Now Paul does this exact same thing is he kind of he talks truce the his what he thinks and people just laugh at it and they think it's hilarious but he's actually saying a lot of Real Asha. Love, about Dave Chapelle because. I was high as fuck one day one night and I was listening to him I was watching I think it was sticks and stones. And do the way he sets up his jokes. He sets up that punch line. It's fucking genius like the way he works it in and then just like delivers it. So Waller's people. On. This because he he laughed he saves wrongly office now. He's boffins running away from the luminosity. And that he was gonNA supposedly trying to go to Africa to live because you got fucked over from his show and then he laughed and then he came back honestly I think it's still him. But who fucking knows it? I don't trust anything because he was supposed to leave. You wanted to get out of Hollywood. Now he's back in his style is completely changed. His one of my favorites official trying to think of is more serious now because he was like, you know. Like like the Chapelle show like what did you can look at it? It's like that's so stupid I was trying to watch it the other day and my megaphone was next my fiancee she was like Syria sales I this was Goldbach then like. Billy. Billion, crave TV or some bullshit he started watching. Like Chapelle show over it. I still have I've DVD show and it looks like shit now because it's like cut off ht. Their stuff in there that was like he literally made fun of everybody widespread relations. Germany listen to Pablo Francisco to. Sounds super familiar I, for Francisco. Yeah. The other night I was going he's like he's like this comedian that's like never really changed up his jokes too much. Easier I like this one set that he does over and over again and I was like watching the auto like a seventy year old video and I was like man this back then was like super funny is but. He like start having drug problems that's like Sam Kinison. A, very famous. Loud aggressive comedian he said really fucked up. Like he was ahead of his time in the ways, jokes were set up and what he would make. Fun of you made fun of fucking retarded kids in a bunch of crazy, shit. And he got just like Chris Farley a lot of in use a bigger dude. God heavy cocaine like people how people talk about this do do and so much coq. He would have mountains of it like just cutting it up, splitting it up and shit and people would see him. That's why he was so energetic on stage. Yeah Yeah I was I would say I was addicted to it for a little bit. What does that make how? What's that like? It's just more of an like you just feel like literally feels like you just feel more energized and you're more awake and everything but you can. You can also can kind of feed into your mind wreath you think too much over allies start becoming paranoid and shit like that. So it you know it's a terrible thing. You know what? I mean you I. Like I was just I was doing restaurants. So that was a cook. You know what I mean dudes always have it like when you work at restaurants, he was always around because I worked at a bar like an Irish pub kind of setting. So always had we would just like do a couple fucking hits and shit bumps, and then we go to the. Bar and Shit and just have a drink or two and talk, and there was one time because my buddy loved here in how fucking? Should I, talk about so we would sit there and it was like when he was he had like a bunch of roommates he was. So half of them are going to school, but he wasn't he was just serving buckby in a bartender and we sat there for like fucking four or five hours with I just music slightly on the background I told my fucked up stories with my past funny as Shit I did as a kid and then got into my reptilian conspiracies because he doesn't believe it at all and we just like you would just talk and talk and. Talk Your ass off on. Yeah. That's why I started doing the podcast. We would do like a little and then we will get carried away when we go so far fucking off topic. But like I'm thankful that I don't touch that she anymore it's fucking stupid especially nowadays with Feno and all the stuff that's. fucking I o d like. Off It like because by buddy brought some shit that he didn't know where he got it from and I pretty much past the April inside of your called. My Yeah. This is my thing of like, no, no more. We recorded podcast and then buddy pulled out a Baggie and he's like Oh. Yeah. Go this room buddy and there was nothing left of it and it like I opened it smells like nothing and that's what fend. Also I should've known but. Nothing and I smell it and I was like weird like it doesn't coke has a really punched in like chemically smell. Chemical Smell, and then so we just did a gummer like test start gums and shit like that, and then I literally, my buddy looked over me they're going to leave soon. All drinking also so that didn't fucking help. We just finished a podcast they looked over at me and my lips were blue and yeah fucking chest is chest compressions. Chest and then the next day my fucking ribs for like a week. My ribs for like a motherfucker and then I woke up because I really remember what I did. I woke up in the ambulance and I was like, what did you take today and I was like ours is doing a podcast because I was like drunk also because we like drinking and shit. Is More. I know what happened really like I didn't even remember you don't remember you didn't have like a near death experience. Let you don't remember. The supposedly Mike, my buddy that's been on the podcast was on the history of marijuana episode, the Dark Disney episode she. said that I was breathing the whole time that it was just like my shallow lighting. because. People have asked me. Did you see anything on my fucking buddy said but like you? Can't touch anything anymore you know what I mean like it's okay to experiment sometimes when you're young but nowadays, you can't maybe in the fucking nineties early. That's one of the main reasons why chose to grow my own? Yeah Mushrooms. Roy. Might Own Gourmet Mushrooms. Mushrooms are hard to fuck him. To kind of taint though and people people, you never know it's like. Yeah, you know what? I'm usually buddies that I know know that. Who they get it from or who grows them because Buddy razz here. He's super spiritual and stuff like that like he's. He's talked about maybe like that. He can maybe find out how to get. That he's tried it, he's tried GMT and stuff and I was joking with the most like. Did you see like any like creatures or anything like that and he's like, yeah, you see some weird shit some entities that thing I've always wanted to try it should be legal that gets edge it mean like It's funny because you can have all the ingredients to make it but if you have it all together, which is the dumbest Shit like if you have these four things there. Okay. Chess separate but as soon as you put together. Soon as you do this L. chemic- process where you put it together. Illegal and you go to jail for a long time. Guests what's happening in Canada and Shit to? War An article came out that I read and it saying that. I don't know if I think it's just Ontario over the whole country that they're allowing. People that are dying to actually use mushrooms to help with their because the research that's gone into it, which is what I WANNA do. Night, I actually started something that I wanted to start for a long time. I went ahead and I. Took some of the of the mushrooms and I put them in honey. So have a mason. And other horny. So eventually, the suicide will leak into the honey it's going to turn it blue they call it a drill. There's no way of dosing it right but I I have so much of it. I just wanted to try. So I have like, I'm just going to let it. Sit for like four months of pretty much like ferment, and then the says, I've been leaks into the honey and. I wish I had too many. I've been asking buddies like, can you get me some mushrooms like I want to do them before the season's done Also in the winter, I've never tried doing mushrooms in the winter. I think that'd be pretty fucking people who are by the time because they know they're like they're not for sale, right? I'm not going to sell them and then the thing is that. I don't know who the fuck, WanNa try mushrooms just for fun dude it's like it said it as more of like a I have fun doing mushrooms. I have more of a spiritual kind of like a spiritual experience that like the first couple times I would do especially when I started doing my girlfriend I would just laugh laugh about the funny out have a glass attacks and that's what was fun about is like you're every emotion is so high and I keep saying I've never had a bad trip which means one day I probably will. But the fact that. You. Can. You can let yourself go guy fucking steered a tree and was like deepened my thoughts as an ala watts last time I did them. So all my first and only trip was was not a bad tribute on call a battery call difficult and it really. Changed my life. It sounds cliche but it really did and it's like, I, tell people I'm like it's not something that you can just do because it's to it's going to show you what's fucked up. Got You hey, you're doing this year. Bro You need to knock it off and a lot of people don't WanNa. Hear that right like a lot of people don't want WanNa hear the truth and it's like you're talking about these comedians that speak the truth and people will find it. Funny. When you tell somebody that that you know sometimes they get offended it's like, no, no, no, you ignore. Thing really just makes you dive into your psyche. And i. told you ever tried floating Bro. Yeah my buddy razz actually I'm not anymore. They sold their razz own afloat studio. So I did fuck it was like he's was like don't touch your eyes fuck away. My eyes got salt. Ma He. He's like done like a little bit mushrooms well floating which I would. Do. I would like to. See. I. Feel like it's weird but I feel like in that state of consciousness in that state where you're on mushy and shit, I feel like I can control my thoughts in a weird way that I know what I wanted know when do like I was getting myself being the prep yourself of the experience. So I was like okay I'm going to have a really good trip I'm going to fucking sit back. And I remember the first identify girlfriend. It was like years since I've done them and I was listening to music and I was just sitting my headphones and she was laughing beside me because man, this is so intense like music is crazy like I was trying different things, right? Specifically. Four. Months of troops. I listen to anything everything you hear banging that's why these big speakers I got a record player connected these big speakers and I have a coach kind of next to it. So I really WanNa get mushy and then kind of like I like Lana del Rey. If you've never heard of her like listen to issues. Yeah, she's. Some of her songs are fucking does like. Her I like her stone, her methodical melody because she's kind of. Like. Almost, like blues Kinda Shit and like. Monsters whatever. That's fucking the pure gold. So I'd like to have a records because I liked your music especially when I'm stoned so I want to do mushrooms lay on the couch and listen to a couple of records and like let the music over me because I said Buddy seventies some mushrooms. He saw fucking music notes coming out of the fucking speakers and like dancing around Michelle tripping amount and like and he did a lot though. Yeah was up for like twenty four hours. The first time I did because dude I didn't want to close my eyes because I didn't want anything to like pod Jeremy. And I should always trip me out like. The shadow is one thing that caught my eye like seeing shadows start moving and shed and it's kind of like just trips you. Mushy fucking crazy but like. Slightly talk about Comedians is a little bit more I was. Looking at George Carlin. Maybe, play a clip at the end of this episode of George Carlin talking because he has so many good quotes. He's like you know. Like the government doesn't give a fuck about you, your religion, your family, your fucking healthcare nothing doesn't give a fuck about you interest is own power and it's not going to stop because it's only let wants its own power like. Like that, he talks about how the government owns the fuck at this and they got this person that back pocket like she's really. Let that guy on air? Dude are now and the fact that he lived for as long as he did saying law the stuff that he did but the thing is law times they were like, oh, it's just a comedian whatever he's. GonNa make jokes and but he was saying like real shit like. People were like not grieving grasping how deep what he was talking about was. Obviously theorist he's fucking listen. Any. He's got a lot of stabs actually I'm prime. That I noticed these got a couple of his on prime but even some of them you can watch on Youtube and George Carlin is probably one of the best comedians when it comes to. If you want to learn about conspiracies at the fucking same time, he makes a fucking everything and it's hilarious and I love George Carlin. So we should all get back into this if you want to actually have. I had tickets for Joe, Rogan, on the fifteenth of this month, they rescheduled it and it's supposed to be for next week and on the twenty eighth can still go. Okay. 'cause you guys don't get fucked down the best thing. Bro, like I don't know I. Think they're GONNA I know they're going to reschedule that they haven't rescheduled it not refund or anything I wanted to see Joe. Rogan. But. It's like dude like this you know. This covert bullshit dude like. I'm over it that. People have forgotten. I have people like I. have this old high schoolteacher that doesn't want to go back the all my facebook who doesn't want to go back to teaching doesn't want to send his kids to school and it's like. He's going on these long rant on on facebook Abo-. How it's so dangerous. But honestly think everybody's forgotten bro I think everybody's forgotten. What's really going on MTV and our say. What they fucking WanNa believe in men do you. Know but fuck it I guess today Scott by supervisor was like just is like everyone come over for meeting after like drive around the forklifts is pulled up you know what's up and he's like. So, rick the truck driver. He's he's a stomach ache which I didn't get it. I was like, Oh, they're probably fucking fine. So the boss the big boss, he had a stomach ache and he hasn't been there for the past three days. And then rick truck driver had a stomach ache that he said he headache. So they're both getting tested today. So and I was like I, have a feeling they're fucking fine against a stomach thing. I would never tested fever for more than a fucking hours. Yeah. I mean. That's the only reason because that's the. Everybody. differently. To shoot. That's look. Does all these things keep adding things I known people who literally nothing has happened to them. But then at the same time here in Florida especially, we've had this whole controversy about how all these tests have been inaccurate like ninety, eight percent of the time or some crazy number like. How do you fuck up ninety eight percent of the time? Yeah. Well, there's a lot of Bush do this are claiming deaths were Kovic but the actually I. It's ridiculous and. I said I definitely think we should touch upon Bill Gates, I really WanNa go until I a deep dive on that fucking phone astle. So let's do that and get more into Kovic. Shit. Because there's a lot of deep stuff to do with all this shit I believe it may be real but I believe it also was created input here either on purpose or how by accidentally like there's so many. Actions Bro. It's all going to go away. You'll see maybe for you guys usually speak in a trump speaking of trump. Yeah, he's. Obviously, don't live in the states but a lot of your shit. There was a speech he was giving at manufacturing plant. Did you see that? Did you see that the weird line that he said? Did you see that or no? I think so I said we're seeing people making fun of him. So. He pretty much went out and said, it was like this long speech. He pretty much came on and said, it was like Oh. You might not see me for a while because there's a lot of very rich people who are like Madam e would and I'm paraphrasing it who are very mad at me. that. Is the the so fucking said he might disappear. He said he's GonNa. Remind us even for a while because there are a lot of powerful people rich and powerful people that are very angry with him and they're not happy. Because what they're trying to do is take away right. Let this thing. Let's think about there's so many there's all these monopolies you have all these different companies but at the end of the day, they're all owned by the same entity, right? Like the center one, right there's what are they called the tentacles of? Yeah. We have Disney and then you have cast com comcast comcast, you have all. ABC Company, and they own like a bunch of these companies so. You know how many companies have interests overseas in China and all these different countries and if you. Try and cancel those jobs right those manufacturing jobs in those countries over there and move them over. We don't even do. The last the last penicillin factor here in the state I think it was like back in the nineties. Yeah. They send everything overseas because she bread is wild. How do we know why? Because in China's silly broke their kids until they fucking go to work and make fucking iphones that play can in dude hang on another country to we've already we've already talked about North Korea they wonder we're getting the fuck in China because China latest that lead US article of North Korea they're confiscating other dogs to eat them. Probably sounds like something they would do. Man. They're fucking stupid and I don't get it. Let's get back into fuck in. So it was donald trump a fucking time traveler. The question has been circling conspiracy websites for several months now a couple by year. Backed by various pieces of evidence, such as Donald Trump's uncle, John. Trump's relationship with Nikola Tesla. Now, a series of books have been published over a century and receiving attention for unseemingly all to Erie connection to the trump family. The books of one is which bear and trump's marvelous underground journey Barron Trump Marvez, underground journey, and nine, thousand, nine hundred, which is weird or the last president, and that's why we're probably call this episode like maybe comedian psychedelics in the last president because. But touching on but like there are there real books by Ingersoll Lockwood in its own book that was published in one thousand, nine, hundred. Eighteen Ninety three And the underground journeys hollower to or the hinting hollered I. Don't I didn't read the book. I guess but like I don't know how good the book is the borders pointing out again, we'll get into what the book is kind of a bow, but it's so he published the Barron trump marvelous underground journey, which is too fucking long weird name and that was published in age night three, and then there was the one that's called nine hundred hundred or the last president came out a few years later. So as to weird books that seemed to coincide with each other because he writes about this fucking trump dude, this kid and Lockwood Road at least one book about Barron trump character that travels an event. Adventures of little. Barron trump and his wonderful dog bulger bogery against Bull Bureau duty he goes he goes into different land and Rome's talked. That's Off. Some psychedelic shed which was published that one was published in eighteen ninety. So it's pretty like There's no fucking the it just like everyone is prints books like this is the eighteen or the nineteenth century and stuff coming in so. It is land of the radical brains or happy for gutters. About some s some weird sham and we're looking more into this at the time we were going to do the episode. There's some really weird stuff he travels all. Talk about the. Pearl the the Am people experience an unexpected ice age joe them down to the world within a world. ooh, oh I remember hearing about that too. It's crazy. How like he? Kind of touches upon. A bunch of Shit, and the fact that maybe maybe this author was a time traveler. So. pocono mushroom bro Yeah, he's probably doing mushrooms because like. You create some crazy shit man, some people like musicians need alcohol. Things to expand their mind and alter what they're thinking. People use mushrooms acid. It was a huge thing for the sixties movement right? You know what I mean. So fucking drugs can help you make some crazy shit and actually like interesting shit you know that I think. I've told you out of a told you this we've definitely mentioned this. fucking. Stephen King used to do a lot of COQ engine Co. whiskey and he said he was so fucked up he doesn't remember writing Cujo. Thought, it was that he needed to smoke a cigarette every time he wrote down he would chain smoke too but he's also was barreling lines of coke and he would drink whisky like straight whiskey while he was fucking writing while doing coke and that's why fucking. The book it is so fucking long and there's a fucking sex scene in the middle of the book were all the Kids Fuck Gwen girl what that's in the book. Yeah. The Games anger yeah they go the sewers and they gang banger dead serious. Folk. Does anybody talk about. It should be in the movie. It'd make a lot more interesting movie but people like Jeffrey Epstein probably like it too much R.I.P. But now like yeah, it'd be realize that that's in the fucking book that. INFAMOUS ORGY CC fucking weird. What do that's wild to me do so on coke all the time. All fucked up in his head and he says, he doesn't remember writing Cujo. fucked, up. This dog is gonNA fucking try to kill the. possessed. fucking crazy. So like there's some weird incredible connections that are made to the first family of the United States and Lockwood novels from the turn of the nineteenth century. The book begins with a Biographical Notice of William. Heinrich Sebastian. Von. Like. This German fuck called Little Barron trump. which is fucking weird. It's like a German von Truth. It's fucking. We're finding the book mentions the Fifth Avenue Hotel meaning the Shears Street with the TUMP trump tower, which is really weird since Fifth Avenue is a well-known part of New York that is a site for several high in restaurants, shops hotels since the eighteen hundreds. And the construction of Fifth Avenue was until eighteen, ninety three. So it's after he wrote this book the detail seeming. Book Dude. Weird the details seemed to be reflecting of the time it was written and there is less precedent note that you know he didn't know that the trump tower would eventually be constructed. He had no there's no fucking way man. So, all sparks is fucking bizarre conspiracy theory. The Internet alleging that trump's family has secrets of time travel with theories using trump's uncle John and Israel have connection to Nikola Tesla casting lockwood as a newly found maybe literary. No. Damase however snow the cites notes notes that the names Barron Dawn. Are The characters titles and Lockwood Books not their given name. So they're like just I don't get what the fuck single. I don't believe slopes actually at all. So but like there's all these weird connections which fucking weird and like I could eventually talk but Tesla because I'm the that they either bought Oh tesla or the told me kill him because according to the guy and disclosure the ufo disclosure Stephen Greer he talks about how we could be a hundred years ahead of technology. Now, if we went with Tesla's inventions if we didn't go with Benjamin Franklin's bullshit because Addison wasn't Edison. Yes and how for a fuck it yeah. I didn't know Edison's kite and the key. fucking. Franklin. That's rank. Actress try to screw to discover but here's the thing dude I'm. GonNa I'm GONNA shoot the see of you know about it. So and I don't know in this book apparently, he wins the presidency in every surprise everybody and people began rioting and protests in the streets which yeah, I was GonNa get to that. Have you heard of the Tar Tairea conspiracy. Now. Okay. So Reminding what we're talking about. Nikola Tesla and. Edison and stuff. So earlier, we talked about how there's all these kids missing in the United States there's about two thousand kids per day that go missing in the United States that's retarded. Throughout the years like eight, hundred, thousand, million kids per year. Thousand is now number now to dispute the pedophilia ring which I believe exist. I read a statistic about ninety eight percent of those kids are found in return back to their families. There's still two percent that don't come back but back in the early nineteen hundreds late eighteen hundreds. Have, you ever heard of. Bro. Sounds super familiar. So there was this thing which is very, very, very fucking on very odd. that. There were kids that. People would literally go to centers to turn them in. Right. And these kids would be loaded up on different trains and stuff like that and methods of transportation, and there would be taken out to rural areas selling Nazi they're called foundling and they would be pretty much child labor. And they'd be put in these big cities in these big urban areas. To kickstart the city's fucking really. Yeah. Bro. In. The early nineteen hundreds. Okay. And for a period of time, there was like I think it was like the number was like seven hundred and something thousand worldwide because it happened worldwide taking kids to like work and to construct. Some of them are going to work and some of them who knows where the fuck they want but people were. Wanted I child. This is my question though why don't you want a child to build your shit? They're not fucking that strong unless you like a million of them like a it's fucking bills and just building stuff it was doing agricultural work as well. Dick or? So that has. Really Weird I don't know if I believe this shit because like looking at. A bunch of child. fucking. Child slavery and like that big thing. Labor. This is so interesting because they got little fingers they can make the iphone eight in eighteen ninety three. Have you ever heard of the World Columbian Exposition the World Trade Fair? Have you ever heard about that the World Trade Fair. The I'm sorry. The World Fair ever heard about that. Yeah like the Chicago's World Fair. Yeah. That's where H H Holmes which will beginning to eventually Australia. You've heard about the. Yeah this guy he took advantage of the world fair when it came to. CHICAGO. So for the first time so spears is the conspiracy with the world with Chicago. World Fair is that All those magnificent buildings that were there for that that supposedly were just built for that purpose. A six month period. Yeah. That were torn down directly after that over six hundred acres of beautiful architecture was torn down for what reason. Yeah go look at the pictures people online. Easy. Yet. Yeah. Exactly and there's some. Buildings that are still up today like there's like one or two of them, but you know who was at that fair. What don't trump's fucking grandfather? No Nikola Tesla and Edison. Do. You know who funded the world, the Chicago World Fair, both of them. Well, why we friends J. P. Morgan he's a piece of shit. So guess who was funding Nikola Tesla and stop funding him. Jp More J. P. Morgan and guess who he funded after Nikola Tesla was out of the picture I said in Edison so. Who knows if they're right there in that whole thing and like they say like there's people that have been murdered for like I along time ago I heard that a Chinese man invented a machine that cure cancer and they came in, they destroyed all this shit. They murdered him which does happen even with stuff that has to do with keeping the earth green and like you know eating better and not having chem trails and all this bullshit, which may we'll get more into on the Bill Gates says you like how trump was saying he's got very powerful people very rich people angry at him what this is what a lot of people don't understand what happens if. Like my Dad, my dad has ms Bro. Thirty Day. Supply of medication is thirty thousand dollars and that's for like the generic brand like that's ridiculous. Health NASA fucked man they have. Everything Yeah multiply that times. Five hundred thousand people that have ms quote uncle because even when they diagnose you, Bro. When they diagnosed him, they're like. We're ninety, five percent. Sure. That's what you have. You have an autoimmune disease seriously but guess what? Once you plant that seed in somebody's mind and they work on it and they work on anything think about it over and over and over and over again they manifest that shit yeah. No fucking that happens and when we. Start talking about synchronicity shit when I finished his book. Because a freefrall later on the book that I'm reading but like the fact that you can push it in your brain easily and allow it to affect you and broken, you can fucking make yourself sick and shit the people who are falsely diagnosed of cancer that ended up dying because they think they have cancer ended up not having shit to begin with they die. Yeah. Because they had fucking answer people. Honestly if you're listening to this, understand that your thoughts do manifest and create. But the thing is in our reality that will okay. We're definitely into this book. But in our reality like we have like. fucking. It's like it's like three D. right forty. They say if you're in four fourth I mentioned, you think about an apple I was making this. In apple will come into your hand like that. You can manifest things in like in real time but because a dense. Reality more like slower kind of everything. The reason why you have a table The table I'm Marie now an economic on it is because the molecules are slowed down so much where they make a solid object that's kind of the layman's term for it and the fact that when you when you believe something. Like. This podcast is going to do great like it might manifest to put my man, it might take. People when people talk about. Bro You got to understand that you have to work towards it. It's not like you can believe in an fucking meditate on and it's going to happen overnight you have to work on, you have to take the the. Right, the correct steps. Towards the direction of whatever it is that you want to achieve and all the people they'll. They'll take these courses and go to all the I've seen all these people I go take my manifestation cores a how to manifest your destiny, and it's probably just GonNa fuck until you. How do you want? Magic. She worked at. Like. There's like the chaos magic. There's also like the way alister, Crowley was. brise like what are your thoughts on alister? Crowley. What are your thoughts on? We did a whole episode and OSCE. I've Fuck Med other been Outta Crowley and like like researching him since I was pretty fucking young because I I heard it in elegance songs or this fly is been fucking with me into sit on my fucking mike arm bar and it's tripped me out. While we is sitting there. Staring at me it's not that far away. So. Like. He's a fucking character that's for sure. I don't believe what he believes in but I believe I believe in some of what he believes. But I believe that he was the he is in was the starter of spirituality. The movement of like it's not just religion but it's also like you could not have religion and you could just have your own thoughts and we're all have some sort of spirit like he did bring that more into it but he did like like we're chaos magic. They believe they're fucking wizards and Shit and a lot of sex matter to. And they would. They would do. It was probably because he was gay but they would. He would fuck is and shit like that because of the energy and this is what mark dice talks about a good book for people factor fiction aluminum body the book by Mark Dice. If you look up his name on Youtube, he's a crazy conspiracy theories dude. But like Fox with people. He'll go down to like fucking in California and ask people questions about like basic knowledge and prove that humans are. fucking idiots shit. But mark dice kind of talked about how this isn't hip hop and how you have sex magic like were drake is fucking. We'd like Little Wayne and that there's there's all the symbolism and how they're actually gay and doing homered man and little. Yes. I was about to say that Birdman Little Wayne him kissing that that that whole thing is actually based on a magic because what they're saying they're going against all religion. So they're selling goes back to the knights templar Bro. Yeah. Fuck a guy because it's against what God wants God wants us to procreate technically so like and that's what's in the Bible that we must spread the seed. And you. Can have a lot of wives. But if you fucked guy, it's get more share where you get like banished and you're not allowed around anymore. Thing, dude, what they're trying to prove is we can go against this what I don't like Alister Crowley. And anything about it, but I just find it interesting. Well, here's the thing. There's a lot of people who defend them dude. Oh. Yeah it was. Very. Passionate about him and they defend him and how he talked about the whole. He was. Okay. What with child rape and yet child sacrifice but then you people you talk to people about. What he meant was the child sacrifices when you Jackie late in all those potential kids is what you're sacrificing to this man it's. fucked up views and I think, oh, she adds some fucked up shit and he said a lot of crazy and that's why and he would write about that and Antoine the guy that creates satanism kind of briefed on that we're going GONNA we're getting into satanism on strange brew probably in the next couple of months where a deep dive on it, it's all ready to go I knew a lot about it. So it's like he kind of saw like heaving says like you know there's no need for child or animal sacrifice and satanism because and if Alyssa Crowley in Antoine, Levin knew each other they'd probably fight each other they were completely different even though people associate them together often like the. was kind of going on about other stuff about as being a gone your own right and they're using Lucifer as a symbol of a nonreligious born against. he was a smart dude and people don't even know if life the haze beginning of his life was correct because he's made it all he made it up people think and that you don't really know where he came from and Shit So. Honestly, it's the SATANISM share. Once we do the episodes, I start talking about more with you because it gets pretty fucking deep. You know and could continue on this whole. Tesla's an interesting and this is why free-for-alls Li, like we have some structure this but free for alls definitely mean walk out more of these infinite listeners we're going to talk about everything. So it's kind of interesting people here are point of view, but also I'm skeptical but everything right so you kind of. got a your way around that fucking dungeon. fucking video games. So like all these books come out and by monitor standings like the standards, it's weird how close it is. But, he sold the opening in Arctic Russia and the book and Barron trump marvelous underground. Underground journey adventure bullshit, and it's weird there in Russia and the Arctic and the little. Boy Trump. A. Little trump is and the interior of the world. So he's in hollow worth. He passes through strange countries of transparent folks. So like and the rattling brings others. Yeah. The seeing all these weird creatures it's like fucking acid trip looking in wonderland type. Yeah. Is Really fucking weird we're in in tongue-in-cheek. Would find it amusing as well as children. So there's probably dirty shitting there especially back then. So the word dawn appears in the book at Least Fifty Nine fucking times to the character Don Fum who guides buried, and the protagonist protagonist says he had been reading of the world within a world written by. Learn Don from I don't know who that is but Newsweek knows that the trump adventures begins at Russia and are guided. Trump's cohoots. With. Russia is also in this book and he guys direction by he had to be proved that he was the master of all masters in a man named Don ads before leaving for his voyage through the unknown trump told his family. told his of his family's motto that pave the pay. The way of glory is strewn with pitfalls in danger so like and. It's weird because it kind of talks about how he's going to be connected to Russia, which he was maybe fucking like hookers down there. Who knows I kind of believe it because he he's he's a fucked up character also. Because that's what he is. He's a fucking character just like fucking every politician days, but it also like how he wants to be the master that the best of the best and that he his family you will go through. You'd yeah those little. Areas approved as hands aren't that small and shit he's he's a weird. Fucker, and then like if just again to this a little bit about the other book, the Nineteen Hundred Book I do not. Go back. Did you read the part about? how He after his inauguration he began signing executive orders a way to diminish the effects. The former administration had on the country before he was inaugurated, this influential man began picking people for his cabinet holy fucking Shit this one individual he for Secretary of Agriculture was name laugh. Pence. Oh Yeah. So I seeing that I, don't know if I don't think I had. I know. How was this possible? Is a fluke like ages comes in to like. Do like a fluke or different it's fucking weird kind of trips me out because all seem to connect fucking weird and the way it's connected the way it's connected with Nikola Tesla and all that stuff and nineteen forty-three Nikola Tesla. Died of blood club before his fucking murder eat yeah. He claimed he had bill time machine used to time to time travel. Obviously. After, his death, the US government took all of his inventions and claims. And Shit and everything. Yeah and and they claimed that it was quote unquote the Office of Alien Property, and this was the real government nineteen forties. And then that ties into has wise. Great Grandpa or something like that has the right here so. This was a real government office in the nineteen forties after the government gave up on trying to figure out his inventions and what they meant. They hired an outside engineer who could understand the work of Tesla. His name was John G trump John Trump is the grandfather president donald trump after studying the work and Nikola Tesla Don trump determine that he had that he did not. That he did not invent a time machine reported to the government that nothing peculiar was fouled. fucking. Shit Dude. Yeah. There's a lot of weird shit goes to hence. Pence Gami I know because that's like the blast president and the book was like a of. Like political satire. And kind of chastise, the rise of socialism and populism which kind of living in now. Inferring the fictional rise here it's kind of a Government, leading to chaos in this kind of what is happened and like you guys country. Nodes here is that his work along with others BILAC would appear to be caution and to be current with the political climate of the United States and the West at large and the. Religious Catholic of his error is not although impossible that Lockwood wittingly or unwittingly trapped into. The trapped into some mythical force that he may have known things. That's what they're saying that. He maybe he knew shit that you know how there's like those mediums. And this be part eventually what I want like this synchronicity. In the book that I'm reading synchronicity key because. There's a lot of weird shit that has to do with like that things have happened before in history and it repeats itself and. One people even this guy maybe he just saw something coming didn't even realize he was writing about something that would be in the future like. Because that would be fucked or. You know the whole caution records thing. I believe in that like the College of Con-. The cautioned records so I've. Talked to people that they say, the car, the cash records are in the ether and people back. Then the engine Jeff in the the agents relations Asians were able to tap into that frequency where they were able to download from the cloud, this information of from the very beginning of time and so. I was doing another friend of mine where he said perhaps the records are is actually interwoven in our DNA and we just have to find a way to tap into that. That's. Exactly what Fuckin- David Wilcock. In this book. In different ways he talks deep about this and how We have our own kind of like Seoul path but we're all connected and we all choose people and the way I don't believe in some way connected as we're all one I think that con- consciously. We all know we're here. We're all different souls by we know why we're here and that you can you were incarcerated all these different times and like we kinda talked about but I think that like that. Whole. I was thinking about when I was like stone and I was like you know that's what I think is that one caution this means that we all know that we're coming into this experiment like you could say it that way or this journey to learn Karma tactic like events and to learn from those who become better be a higher dimensional soul and that's how I kind of see I. Think we're all But we're all individuals in a soul type, but we all know what we're doing grow all know. What's happening? We just don't know while we're here. Not plays into the whole simulation like, yeah. We're in what a brain VAT jar some city. Should talk about that I think that should be a top fucking own is just the simulation theory that'd be fucked up. Bro. Talk about that because I really want to and. Say Fuck. Kabila's all the bill is smart enough to understand it. But like the book also says the Fifth Avenue Hotel will be the first few fury of the mob, which is the current location of the trump tower. The president's home town of New York is fearing the collapse of the Republic in this book also titled Nine Hundred or the last president immediately following the transition of presidential power. Some American's begin forming resistance like you said and protesting what was seen as corrupt. Election Process and Newsweek reports. The book this actually happened in the book. So I think that's kind of fucked up and how red it's now talking about and when fortune was kind of a thing, spun their own spirits theory like how you kind of said how maybe the trump somehow had a time machine and they got it from the trump's uncle John who got Shit one hundred percent bro. And then trump did. Did. have an uncle named John John Trump really did other action like you said, this is. This shit. GRANDPA A at the same time we got to remember that Nikola. Tesla was talking to aliens and he was in love with a pigeon. So there's that. Of course, slopes says like all. These books may contain some bizarre coincidences, but there's no evidence that Donald Trump had access to a time machine. For instance, is books also have giant Turtles Alternate mentions and a battle was strange creatures so fucking snow be like not true. Kelly Fuck Dude. So obviously, you get too close to the truth. Literally, my power just went out in the the conversation. So fucking. Weird. Talking. About something about slopes. Via fucked. That we're talking about Tesla and power time travel, and then you're fucking paragraph said. Onto the weirdest thing, it'd be of my power when the same time as yours is bucket I'd be crying well, they like me better rose. fucking. Not This guy. John Trump was a professor and the younger brother of trump's father fred according to. The New, Yorker which questions, Don trump as saying of his uncle, my uncle used to tell me about nuclear before nuclear was nuclear. And he was referring to the magazine theories to hydrogen bomb. So Donald Trump is saying his his stupid fucking says, Shit. My uncle used to tell me about nuclear before new cure was killer. Probably right bras the problem is that who but probably as. They don't. Say Shit he's probably been around a lot of smart people which connor rubbed off on him but I think he's still fucking any as should. He's been saying be like, okay. Maybe it's not that bad but some of the stuff he's been saying like skies a fucking lunatic. Yeah. Yeah. The New Yorker Describes John Trump as brilliant scientists who was 'em mit for decades and developed x ray machines that helped. To extend the lives of cancer patients, which is fucking crazy. Trump was involved in raider research for allies in the Second World War, which is crazy and in nineteen forty-three. Had enough faith in his technical ability for his pretty much for to call and when Tesla died in his room at the New Yorker Hotel in Manhattan raising the question of whether enemy agents might have a chance to learn some of the secrets before his body was found. So the impasse. Conspiracy. Shit. But they're saying that Tesla was developing a death ray. Also, releasing and in report, the magazine Professor Trump dowse speculation that tesla was working on something big and Tessa was well known for his interest and time travel and they're in a conspiracy was born I really want to dive deeper on Tesla on an episode alone. But the fact that why was he building a death-ray I thought he wanted what I heard is that he wanted a technology to be free and they're like, he wanted he wanted free free energy. Yeah hundred. Yes you want that was the thing. I Probably Butcher than in the wise. The wise cliff wycliffe tower wycliffe tower, and when he he he didn't finish that. But what that was is pretty much you know the Aurora Borealis in the Air Energy. So he wanted to harness energy from the stratosphere and obviously if you. Eliminate the whole coal industry, fossil fuels, oil view limited all that and people can get their energy from the fucking sky. How maybe the Egyptians used the pyramids as some sort of power generator from the ether. There's no need that trillion. Multi. Trillion dollar industry would be shit canned. Start and that's what trump meant. A lot of a lot of rich people are on me right now and it's those rich angry people just like the Clintons I get people killed all the time for doing whatever. Yeah. So rich rich angry person. Yeah but he's not as involved, I think what helps them a lot is that he doesn't really have political record so they can't call them out on. Diabolic. What am I? fucking all time favorite rappers but he does like a lot of live video and discuss politics and he said I'm going to happen because I said the Donald Trump is going to be elected and I guessed it and because he was on Alex Jones and I was like everyone's like no way no way and I remember walking into work and I. Cook and I walked into the kitchen and I threw my arms and then one of my chef fuck annuity it he was going to be like this and I was like fucking told you told you is going to get elected man I was gonNA fucking killary Clinton in there. But the fact that like. was with diabolic said that he was someone outside of the political. Families in the political draw like everyone that ever fucking runs for President Reagan and some people like that are fucking all have political backings and political families which Reagan did but Reagan was an actor look you should be president then you should flood the streets of the crack cocaine and fucking. Aren't all the president's related. Bro By most of them and then pass talks about that. A lot of them go back to one bloodline like that. Obama and Bush are actually cousins and that nobody was talking about the third cousins. That's a fucking conspiracy. So that is a lot of stuff to do with this. But I I believe it like David traces of it but I did leave some of them are and I think it's fucking weird. Monday say that? Prince Prince William the one that's married that one bitch what's your name? The whatever? The fucking longer on the Royal Family is like when Prince William got married she was in his thirty fourth cousin ruling who was diagnosed does so fucking far removed cares. But still the fact that they could trace they were cousins I guess. They that little girl did like a tree and the trays back. Down to like this one common ancestor and they're all related which goes back to this whole bloodline. Coney and bloodline. You know eventually touch upon that I. Think an episode. That shit fucking crazy like we debated the bloodlines which I do have as an option of eventually talking about is like the the thirteen aluminum bloodlines because that's fucking shit goes deep. So. Allah. Is Finish it off with like this and then we can like John a little bit but assure biography of Lockwood and science fiction. Psycho Pedia says that he was involved in domestic drama lockwood was a lawyer for Miss. Margaret Todd. Who died under suspicious circumstances and nineteen thousand five soon after changing her will in order to include him lockwood and luckily wasn't a conflict with a second lawyer George Gordon Hastings who represented in later Mary Todd's daughter like the woman he's probably scamming and who had the beneficiary area of his mother's. Estate and his publishing enterprise. So we lost all of his fucking money. He lost all his books, his rights because Sh- be probably may have killed. A LAWYER Yeah. So. So he is fucking Shit goes deep. I I believe I. Believe it one hundred percent. And just so coincidental and like I've always said in life I don't believe in coincidences. Everything happens for a reason and maybe the book I'm Reading His Rain David Wilcock and his researches right? Chronicity and that things happen that have already happened in. I think this guy either either trump's fucking time travel which like honestly for what I think this seems more far fetched I'm going to say what I. Thank. You say what you think, and then we can always had the listeners grow the facebook group page on stranger podcasts and like maybe what they think but I think it was more like this guy. Was a psychic medium or whatever without even knowing it, and he kind of took something from the future in his head and he realized that he was writing about the future but you can get into supposedly by outside forces. Especially when you're on drugs installed just pulled some show. There's. This. Goes Deep Bro. This So. This is talking about how trump is the last president like It's one of the. Kid that thing is supposed to be his kid is going to the last president well. Here's the thing you know the whole anti Christ thing wall some of this, but we're going to have to dive back into this because this is this is the. Obama, the aircraft. The Anti Christ I feel because Donald trump the other day said some shit that like I was like what the fuck he said. He. Said this is a quote and if it's real or not, I don't know but I think. I read it. Okay. So I'll have to look into. It but he said I have done more for Christianity than Jesus Christ. And he would say something like that this review, right? That's why haven't checked the because that's something that he would say. Thousand percent probably said that and he probably Fox little kids like Jeffrey did so trust everything he says so. Bro something that we didn't mention because I was looking. Into this just now. Yeah. Apparently this figure, what's his name Ingersoll Lockwood? Awkward he wasn't a cultist Bro and he this is most. Of And I don't know how to say this but Munich cultism and Musica cultism. Mean Tick Cultism I. Don't know is rush according to a study of information based on an analogy would Darwinian evolution. Proponents. Describe. Mimi ticks. Or, medics. Because, I've never heard of this ship. As an approach to evolutionary models of cultural information transfer so The US medic, a cultism is mixing Darwinian theory with a cult practice as a way of predicting the future holy fucking Shit. That's really weird. I. It could make some sort of sense I. Guess I was thinking about magic and like, yeah you and your thoughts manifesting. Shit how. We've made his joke I think before but like you, it's like you write your intent. On a piece of paper I want my podcast to be famous, and then you come on the piece of paper I haven't done this personally but I maybe we'll try and then you come on the piece of paper or you light on fire or you do both and you put all your intention. Like having this come true. Doing rituals because if you think about things can manifest but if you put an effort into doing things well thinking things and putting a whole ritual spin on it and making yourself completely believe it that you're going through to actually like fucking come on a piece of paper that you wrote your intent on and then laid on fire people do this shit and they really think that could happen but it makes kind of makes sense because you putting your. In the atmosphere more than just saying in putting ritual behind it bro this is deep. Bro. We can talk about ritual magic sometime it's fucked up. This is crazy. Yeah, I wanted there but. This is this was Kinda deep because we we did touch things. mean one someone's going topic but somebody's we'll just say fuck it. We'll do some fun and this was really interesting because we talked to a bunch of different Shit in one episode and you know like what do you think is, is there going to be fucking as maybe donald trump son going to be the last president because people do really like him They think people think I know people are like, why did they still allow trump after all the shit but people still do for some reason but I don't think he's going to be last president less is like nothing like him? You guys are not going to make the same mistake twice. I believe that. Maybe, down the road if he ever does if he ever does become president, we know that Shit's real. Yeah. That happens I like what? The fuck like thirty years from. Now if he becomes president, WE'RE GONNA pot and be like we fucking talk about. On August. Twenty. Twenty yeah. Who knows if I'm. Still. Alive in thirty. Years. Me To go. Right well, fucking follow all the shit you know where to go got all the links below www stranger podcast, dot com, go with a group page stranger podcast group page on facebook because we both kind of post on it, and if listeners got questions, you know what I mean. You can tag us in and stuff like that like semi a fucking email. Yeah, make sure to send Dick Pics to straight podcast. Edgy monarch. Calm dog again. That's my inbox four. Take one look at it because it's just pages. Galore. But if you want to send infected sti is to fucking winds email go ahead. It's at the one podcast dot com I wanna see the worst like herpes infected like fucking Geishas gashing wounds on a fucking genitals the. To. The I mean goes. scooting surgery. On. Instagram at the one on guys. Asses Fun Danfoss till next time. took.

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"On October fifteenth. Two thousand eighteen thirteen year old Jamie Kloss was at home with her parents, James and Denise the enjoyed dinner relaxed and eventually went to bed. But at around twelve fifty, a M Jamie was woken up by her dog molly barking at something outside. She looked through her window and noticed strange car in the driveway. Jimmy quickly woke up her parents to tell them about the possible stranger. Denise grabbed her daughter and they barricaded themselves in the bathroom. Well, James went to the door to see who is there. Just, minutes later at twelve, fifty, three, a. m., the Barron County Sheriff's department received a nine one, one call. A woman could be heard screaming, but dispatchers were unable to make out much of what she was saying. They thought multiple people could be heard in the background. then. The line went dead. Dispatchers tried calling back but got no answer. Deputies James Presley Eric Sudani and John Fick immediately headed over to the class home. As, they drove west on highway aid a red vehicle traveling eastbound pulled over to the shoulder as they passed with their lights and sirens activated. They arrived at the house at one am a red pickup truck and a white SUV were parked in the driveway. No outside lights run and there were no immediate signs of stress. As the deputies moved closer to the house. They saw a light on in an upstairs bedroom. Deputies Sedan, he knocked on the front door. Through absorb this, you'll know that there were several voices. Ask Is John. The door was open deputy Sudani went to knock again to announce that they were coming in when he saw a pair of legs on the floor near the front door. Sure. Oh. I don't see a gun guy. So let's not write it off as a suicide. He moved in closer and saw a man laying on his back with what appeared to be a gunshot wound to his face under his right eye. The three deputies moved in further into the house announcing for anyone inside to show themselves. No one responded. There's a shotgun shell. Shock on. Long Gun. One at a time. No quickly. Shotgun shells. Deputy Fiqh retrieved a ballistic shield from the squad car. It appeared the man was shot through a glass window in the front door likely as he answered it for someone. The would door was splintered as if someone had fired a second round in order to break the deadbolt to get inside. The Baron County. Emergency Response Team along with additional officers from the barren police department were called to the scene. The sheriff was called immediately. Muslim. We're missing a lot. Here. and. You got a long have them advice three or three, three, zero, one, one male down deceased. Started the house declare. Several rounds spent. The three deputies moved inside. They found a spent shotgun shell near the man. There was another round found near the front door then they cleared the living, room. While moving through the hallway, they found another spent shell casing. The bathroom door appeared to have been kicked in. Hallways air cover. I'm GonNa Break Left you cover this room the right okay. Over there. Thought, we've got a dead body in this one. We got a body in here to. Inside the bathroom deputy fix spotted a woman in the bathtub with a gunshot wound to her head. She to appeared to be deceased. A cell phone was laying upside down on the floor. They continued on. Something this chair be careful going over for evidence. Before it tip before but to step over to Kim. A chair at the kitchen table was tipped back as if it had been hit by a projectile and had splintered. A back bedroom appearing to belong to a child was empty. The upstairs rooms downstairs basement were both searched and cleared. EMT's arrived and confirmed both adults were deceased. The suspect. We didn't see a shotgun. Right guys. Saw Case. Did they not? You Guys WanNa do. Eric or to you pair up and just do a wide perimeter search a lock mixture, we're not missing anybody. Why would someone want James Denise? Dead. Where was the suspect and more importantly where was their thirteen year old daughter Jamie clause? This is Jillian and you're listening to court Junkie Episode One, twenty two. A crime is kind of like a puzzle. Each connection helps reveal the big picture and it's a thrill to put it all together. When I'm not thinking about true crime or watching trials, my brain still wants a challenge and that's why I love best beans. Best beans is the fun and exciting puzzle adventure. You can experience anytime anywhere and if you're not playing it yet, you're really missing out it's a lot of fun and it's a great way to have some socially distant competition with your friends. I'm currently involved in a very friendly competition with Kristy Lee from Canadian true crime. 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A light freezing sleet and snow flurries were falling around law enforcement as they gathered at the Kloss residents. It was a single story ranch style home built into a hill. A wooden deck extended off of one side of the home with glass french-style Patio doors that served as a side entrance. The front door faced highway eight. Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald arrived on scene and deputy. Presley. debriefed him on what he saw. My own came in. Holly. You're screaming and yelling I heard some of the tapes as I was gearing up to go. Bloody screaming yelling sounded like a couple people maybe not. On went dead. She check on back no answer we get here minutes later pull up To the slow approach didn't hear anything which is odd. To the front door front doors open further look at splinter kicked open for dead body right at the front door heavy trauma. The face gunshot looks like a shotgun shell of the face. There's one shell expended shell next to the body. we ended up deciding to clear the house found another one in the in the bathroom almost directly straight back from the front door in the bathtub dead. One more shot shell up in that entry area cleaning into the bathroom. For the rest of the Hollis nothing. So no no no gun. Detective Jeffrey Nelson was assigned the emergency response team or your not leader. That disease was in the bathroom go directly on the floor behind matter. I don't know if that directed for him or that's from her but bathroom door is kicked in multiple saw that. Okay. So we can let it was. Okay I don't WanNa. So. Don. I'm assuming. wills doing. entry-exit log we're put some tape up. They did a cursory walk around the. On the outside here we didn't see anything so. We're out of their. Investigators searched the outside of the home and noticed some tread patterns, Iran crime scene tape up around the house and driveway. Next the illuminated the yard with tactical lights or were unable to find any footprints or shoe impressions. Around one forty, five am the emergency response team made a second sweep of the. House. Who Shut the phone Went Dead. Yeah that's fine. I'll. No. Wonder. The phone was by the doorway it was outside of the door. Sworn that was a female yellow on unless it was an open line and could hear her in the. Kirtland. Screaming we could use them I. She replayed it when I was built up. And I don't see distinct like you know how the gauge looks like gauge won't put him up. I don't see distinct hers is just one Shell Shell look like it was in that hallway area. Like from the door Kinda shot. Investigators concluded the assailant had used a twelve gauge pump action shotgun to shoot James in the face as he bent over to look through the window. Then the assailant fired a second round into the dead bolt to breach the front door. This round went inside the home striking and tipping the chair and was found next to James's body. There were some tread patterns invisible blood near James's body. However, they were minimally discernible and appeared to be from tactical type boots like the ones worn by law enforcement. Detective Jason Hagen located Denise's cell phone on the floor of the hallway leading into the bathroom and determined that it was used to call nine one one. Quote because the phone was used to call nine, one one and because the phone was not located near any of the deceased, this means the suspect potentially handled this phone Hagan wrote in his report. He also wrote it was apparent that Denise kloss attempted to barricade herself in the bathroom where she was killed. It appears vanity drawer was pulled open to prevent the bathroom door from swinging in. The bathroom door was severely damaged and broke it off and laying in part of that Traore. The shower curtain and Rod were also pulled down. It seems possible if not likely that the suspect would have pulled it down. As, the ear T members continued their search of the home. They found the family dog molly trembling in fear behind the Washer Dryer in the basemen she wouldn't come out for them. Officer saw family photos of the couple with their daughter, but the daughter was nowhere to be found inside the house. They soon. Realized Jamie KLOSS had been abducted. The FBI and the Wisconsin Department of Justice were called in for assistance. A Wisconsin crime alert along with an amber alert issued for Jamie. Denise's phone along with Jamie's phone, which is found in the kitchen and James's phone, which is found in the bedroom were sent to the FBI for analysis. DNA swabs were taken from throughout the crime scene and the front door was even removed for processing because the suspect potentially handled it. The deputies conducted had canvases to see if the neighbors heard or noticed anything. One neighbor said his wife woke up to hear the sound of a gunshot followed quickly by a second one. Jamie's school bus driver said she hadn't seen her in a week because she was out sick from school. Autopsies were performed on James and Denise. The medical examiner determined they both suffered non survivable gunshot wounds to the head and ruled their deaths a homicide. Tips began pouring in by the hundreds leads came in from as far away as Florida, but those were quickly ruled out. Investigators continue to look for possible suspects including looking at sex offender lists. A Wisconsin Department of Corrections. GPS tracking system showed no sex offenders were in Barron county at the time of the murders. Detective spoke to Jamie's friends at her middle school. They checked out who was absent from the local middle and high schools on the following Monday and Tuesday. Search, and rescue teams launched in the immediate area around the class home canine units conducted article searches hoping to find a piece of clothing or any trace of Jamie. Trash collected from highway eight near the home for the state. Crime. Lab to test for possible clues. Sea patrol officers combed through ditches finding old flip flops and shotgun shells but nothing related to the case. Nearly one hundred people volunteered to help the sheriff's office expanded their searches. The FBI poured through any electron devices recovered at the class home including camera, a memory cards and an IPAD. Detectives put together a go bag with clean clothes shoes that could be brought to Jamie when she was found. If she was found. The one of us want to run back download and see what we have for plates and oncoming cars. Because they went one or two ways. WHO's laugh last? Do you want to run and download and try to see if you can twenty plates of cars going that way? Yeah you're right. I ended up fifty four. We're close enough you WANNA. Run download burn copy quick and come on back. The sheriff's Office was particularly interested in the red card that had passed the deputies they were rushing to the classes home. But the DASH CAM video was unable to pick up a license plate number. A. Casting of a tire impression from when the car pulled over onto the shoulder was admitted to the FBI crime lab. On. October twenty first thousand. Eighteen from eleven thirty PM, until two am the Baron County Sheriff's department conducted a checkpoint on the road in front of the. House. All vehicles traveling were stopped for the purpose of determining if any of them may have heard or seen something around the time of the homicide. None had. On October twenty third, a second citizen search was conducted in the area of two and a half mile radius of the home. This time two thousand people came out to volunteer. The next day the Baron County Sheriff's Department in conjunction with the FBI announced a twenty five thousand dollar reward for information regarding. Jamie. Seduction. Denise's employer. Jenny O Turkey store announced they would be matching that amount bringing the total to a fifty thousand dollar reward. Posters were released to the public posted on social media and even on billboards and the surrounding highways. Missing Jamie clause it read in massive capital letters. Detective submitted DNA samples from Denise and James in an attempt to create a DNA profile for Jamie, to submit into a national database. For. Missing. Persons. On October twenty fifth, the House was released from the law enforcement supervision. James and Denise were laid to rest at their funeral on October twenty seven. But on that same day in the early morning hours, emotion dated camera picked up someone entering through the patio doors of the cost residents. A deputy and key nine quickly headed to the House and noticed several lights on and the blinds and shades open. The deputy or man to come out with his hands up. Could this be the break they had all been waiting for? Would this man lead them to? Jamie? The man said, his name was Kyle Jenky Anna's. All they do. Is from everything that I have read. And for for. For the simple fact is. Cuisine. Any joke comes up. You know. And they were go functional harm. Department. Chinky Anna's was identified as noted sex offender. He drank a half gallon of chocolate milk from the classes refrigerator and left the carton and Jamie's bedroom. He then admitted to taking a pink shirt and other odds and ends from the home including some underwear that he believed belonged to Jamie. Janke Anna's told investigators that he took items. He believed people wouldn't miss and that he was curious about what size Jamie was. Investigators were able to determine however that he had nothing to do with the disappearance and murders. He was charged with burglary and later released from jail on bond. Tips now poured in by the thousands, but Jamie was still nowhere to be found. As part of the investigation, the FBI and the Wisconsin Department of Justice extracted data and analyzed the cellphones collected from the house. There was unexplained internet usage on two separate dates both within a week of the murders. According to the data Jamie and Denise's phones us to access the Internet at a location about three miles away from the class home. Detective Jason Hagen decided to conduct an experiment. He, drove out to the area and watched as denise phone connected to a secure WIFI without needing a password. He realized that it was highly likely. The cell phone had connected to this Wifi in the past and that the phone remembered the password. Jamie's phone also attempted to connect to the Wi fi but was unable to get on the Internet connection. But Detective Hagan spoke with the homeowner and determined that he had no known connection to Jamie or denise. It seemed the WIFI connection was an anomaly or eroneous data. Thanksgiving passed and so did Christmas the community held vigils and prayed for. Jamie. We. All have the same goal in mind and that is to bring Jamie home. And back into? Our arms. We will continue to put our full trust. In our law enforcement agencies who are leading this investigation. Then on January tenth she thousand nineteen at four eleven pm the Douglas County Wisconsin Sheriff's office received nine one one call. County. Number One. I have a young lady at my helper now and she doesn't Janey Claw. Had Jamie finally been found. Here's the thing about home security companies most Chappie with high prices, tricky contracts, and lousy customer support. So. 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Hang on just a second. Christian was at her cabin in the woods. It's a rural area where not a lot of people stay in the winter. quake. Did she show up walking? A neighbor the walked up with her tour and the woman. Kristen said her neighbor Jeannie Nutter told that Jamie? Clause walked up to her on the street Jamie told Jeannie her name and said, she needed help go. How did they come up upon your cabin? Walking my dog and we were almost home and she was walking courtney crying and you gotta help to help me. Okay like didn't WanNa go in my cabin. To? That her her name is Danny cloth. Yes. When I walk into this how? They recognize immediately from. Jamie. Told them that the man who abducted her was named Jake Thomas Paterson. Genie new the Patterson cabin was two doors down from hers. She didn't know Jay but could see that there were cars in his driveway. Jamie said Jake left the house and she thought he was going to come back at midnight but didn't know for certain. But we're kind of scared because like. I. Have I have many deputies headed that way I'm GonNa keep you on the line. Okay. And she thought I am Dany cloth? Yes. My parents I wanNA. Go home. How And what was the mail him? had. Take Patterson and feed that J. he killed her parents and she wants to go home. When I thought or? Am I I and I. And did she say he's gone right now? They add a cabin. Well, I think. You look. At it at midnight it. Jimmy told them that cheek doesn't work and that he used to be in the military. And that he drives a red car. Jeanie said Jamie was in shock was tired with matted hair and MESSI clothes. Nine one one dispatchers told them to stay at the home and to not allow anyone inside except law enforcement. Detained thing. You're wary. She told me that one in we've heard she doesn't know that he gone. He comes up real loud. People come over the watcher. Jamie said, Jake would trap her under his bed for up to twelve hours at a time without bathroom breaks our food. He would have people over and turn up the radio really loud. On that afternoon Jamie said Jake boxster under his bed and left the house. She was able to push out from under the bed found an oversized pair of men's shoes and broke free. At one point nine genie asked me whether she was okay and told her that she doesn't want her to be scared. Jamie said she wasn't afraid. Okay, it was there that the not door or you define in the Guy Out The. Cut High better there with you. Yeah. Okay Jeannie perfect that I can let you go as long as the deputy there with you guys. Okay. Okay. Thank you the dumb thing by by. Douglas County deputies arrived at the House Jamie, was sitting on a couch wrapped in a blanket and wearing slippers. The neighbors had given her for warms. She said, she wasn't hurt the worried. The suspects location was still unknown and might be in the area trying to find Jamie. The deputies made the decision to remove her immediately. The women gave her a hug and she walked outside with the deputies. Jamie sat in the front seat of the patrol car and they headed to the hospital for a medical examination. As they were leaving the neighborhood the deputies saw a red vehicle pass them. Twenty two eighteen thanking I. got a Red Card at this pathway. Bible by William John at Douglas Becker coming toward you nineteen and twenty nine. Point nine copy. Platelets back to Katie Paterson. Two thousand four tourists Maroon. Twenty to just go. Have A. On My. ALGA. Driving. Jamie was unsure if that was jake's car, but it matched the description. It appeared a male was driving. So another deputy pulled the car over. Traveled on. Like, play like. Ninety eight hundred Tan. Happy. configure. Surgeon derocha pulled behind the suspect vehicle while waiting for another squad to arrive. Once. The vehicle passed the Patterson home surgeon Dorota conducted a traffic stop. Sergeant. Into Rosia told the man to raise his hands in the air and to open his door. The man said, his name was Jake Paterson. Sergeant Dorota told him to step out of the vehicle. Jake said I know what? This is about I did it. Sergeant Rosia. Asked him. What did he do? Jake replied he wasn't going to say. Jake was placed in handcuffs and to the city office. Still, being detained to figure out what's on understand? The deputies told Jamie that Jake was in custody Jamie smiled. Deputy Patrick Carey stayed behind the neighbor's house. He said they were noticeably upset some were crying aimlessly pacing. But. There was a breath of relief when they learned Jake was in custody. Sergent. Erosion told Jake to make himself comfortable in the back seat because it was a long drive to headquarters. Jake was told he was no longer just in custody he was under arrest. At seven fifteen pm detective, Nelson's sat down with him for an interview. Jake waived his Miranda rights and begin answering questions. Twenty one year old Jake Thomas Paterson was living in his father's cabin in Gordon Wisconsin. He graduated high school in two thousand fifteen. He enlisted in the United States Marine Corps but was discharged after one month in boot camp. Jake said he thought about just taking a girl in two thousand sixteen. Two years before he decided to act on it. Quote I just thought about that a lot maybe a year after that I was starting to think about how actually do I do this like more specifically not just in general. Jake said he was working temporary job and I'll Meena Wisconsin when he first saw Jamie getting onto a bus, an October two, thousand eighteen. It was then he began to obsess about the idea of kidnapping her and holding her prisoner. He said he approached the CLAWSF home on two different nights but chickened out. On the night of October fifteenth, he was determined to go through with it. Quote I put that gun my shotgun in my mouth I was telling myself you know either I'm going to die or they are. He said he shaved his head and beard to avoid leaving any hair that could be traced back to him. He put his stolen license plate on his car and drove from Gordon Tiberan. As he approached the house, he cut his lights and engine and then coasted down the driveway. Quote I was kind of like I was telling myself. I have to do this like once they see me to at least having a chance of getting away with it. He said, he shot James through a window, shot the locked door and then kicked it in. He then kicked in the bathroom door and grabbed the cellphone out of Denise's hands. She told denise to Rab, Jamie's mouth and duct tape. But when he wasn't satisfied with how she did it, he put down the gun in wrapped Jamie's mouth hands and feet himself. Quote and then I kinda I grabbed the gun I pointed it at Denise just shot it like right in the head I didn't even look when I did it like I looked away. He then told Jamie just walk just walk and it's like I already forgot that her legs were tied or whatever I was dragging her and then I was just dragging her out of the house I remember I stepped on James's blood and slipped almost or almost slipped, and then after that, I just dragged her through her in my trunk and drove away. He kept the shotgun in the passenger seat and said, he thought about shooting the cops, had he been stopped? For the first two weeks, he kept the shotgun loaded and ready in the house just in case the police arrived. He said, they would watch, TV cook, and stay at the home. On January tenth, he went to apply for a job. When he came home in the afternoon he knew he was quote fucked when he didn't see Jamie under the bed, he saw tracks in the snow and a police car at a nearby house. He got back in his car to look for her. He said, he had just returned home our sooner. He could have prevented her from running away. Cheek said, he's really good about not thinking about stuff. Any barely thought about the murders until the detectives asked him. The lawn crime networks Aaron Keller has more. Patterson city he barely planned had no clothes for Jamie to wear but kept his gun loaded in case police showed up at his home. He said, he assumed he could get an apartment with Jamie clause or maybe let her go after a year. When asked what his punishment should be Patterson said I don't think Wisconsin has a death penalty. It's probably going to be life in prison the next morning, a child forensic interviewer from the FBI spoke with Jamie. She, told her story. She said she told her parents a man was standing at their front door with a gun who she was later able to identify as Jake Paterson. She hit with her mother in the bathtub with the door barricaded. She heard a gunshot and knew her father had just been killed. Her mom called nine one one but jake broke down the door. cheik holding a shotgun in one hand wrestled the phone away from Denise with his other hand and threw it aside. She told them just be quiet. Do would I say and I won't hurt you. According to prosecutors Jacobs then the gun at Denise's head and shot her at point blank range. The proximity of Jamie to her mother and the sound of that third shotgun blast in the small confined aathroom. Even more deafening than the first two blasts would have jolted Jamie to the bone. The defendant didn't even look at Denise when he killed her. The, defendant Grad Jamie by the arm and dragged her out of the House almost slipping on James's blood when he stepped over him and dragging Jamie through her father's blood on the way out the door. When he got to his car dropped Jamie at the driver's side door through the shotgun in the passenger seat, and then popped open the trunk. In, his statement to police Mr Paterson said, he'd told Janey to be quiet and not to move or he would kill her. Jamie said, she heard police sirens shortly after they began driving away. She thought it was about two hours before they arrived at his home. For the next eight days, Jamie was kept a prisoner in his house she went into survival mode. He kept her in constant fear by yelling at her and threatened that something really bad would happen if she didn't follow his rules. He would get mad at her for no reason at all. He hit her really hard ones with a curtain rod and warned he would do it worse the next time. She said, he would make her hide under the bed and stacked toads laundry been so she couldn't see out. He placed weights like barbells and lifting equipment in front of them. So she was unable to move them. It became her prison. Jake, went out for Thanksgiving dinner and celebrated Christmas with his family. All Wild Jimmy was confined under the bed. No bathroom breaks no movement no sound out of her for up to twelve hours at a time. Those were Jake's rules. Rules that she had to follow or something really bad would happen to her he told her. This horrific ordeal and the eight days of Trauma Jamie endured came to an end not because of anything the defendant did but because of Jamie's courage and will to survive. On Thursday January ten, two, thousand, nineteen at approximately four o'clock Deanne Jamie knowing full. Well, what the defendant said would happen to her if he ever caught her trying to escape. The. Incredible. Jamie summons the strength and courage of the bravest among us and decided no matter what happened to her she was going to try and get away. She shoved the totes weights away from the bed crawled out from under the bed managed to locate a pair of the defendants sneakers and put them on. But was. So hurry to get out of there before he caught her. that. She put them on the wrong feet. Seconds turned into minutes as she shoved the totes and waits away from the bed. With each step she took to escape. The terror of not knowing where he was got more and more intense. Jamie questioned was jake still in the house. was he standing outside the door? Would he drive up and find her as she was escaping? Jamie wearing only pajamas no code or gloves and a chilly winter day left her prison. She saw genie nuttier walking her dog and yelled for help. Genie told the Lawn Crime Network that Jamie is the real hero for breaking free and that she herself was just in the right place at the right time with her dog go when I saw her I knew she was in trouble because I knew she wherever she came from she left in a hurry I didn't know if somebody just dropped her off or She just head on on a sweat shirt and wagons and shoes that were too big for her So. All I knew is when she told me who she was I, I obviously the circumstances of her disappearance and what happened to her parents and I knew the person who had or was not a good person in a needed to be. Safe. Place. Cheaney said, she's a former social worker and those skills kicked in. That's why she brought her to a neighbor's cabin to find safety in numbers to reach the police. Peter Kasinga's said, he instantly recognized Jamie when they showed up at his doorstep in the whole thing, I like I told Jamie when she sitting on my couch just that I am so glad to see you over two days investigators recovered eighty nine pieces of evidence from Jake's home. Those included silver and black shotgun with three remaining shotgun shells steel toed boots, a black jacket, a black mask and a stolen license play. Jake was held at the Barron County jail and was formerly rained less than a month. Later, state is asking the court to set cash bail in the amount of five million dollars. MR, paterson has no ties to Barron County. The allegations in the complaint are that he worked at the PUTO cheese factory for two days. The only reason other than that for being barren county was kidnapped Jamie. State asked the court to look at the charges themselves. He's charged with two counts of first degree intentional homicide maximum sentence on each of those counts life imprisonment. The Counter Kidnapping Forty years the count of armed burglary, fifteen years. The state. Asks. You to consider. The efforts he took to conceal himself. As alleged in the criminal complaint. The modifications that he made to his vehicle so the police wouldn't find him. cluding stealing license plates. On the vehicle near Serena putting him out vehicle before he went to the clause residents so that if police did see him, they would not be able to trace his vehicle back to his plates. Fact that he disengaged his dome light to make sure that no, one would be able to see him enter or exit his vehicle. Fact that he purchased the mask. Fact that he wiped down, shotgun his the shotgun that was located at his house. And the shells that were used to kill James and Denise by his own words so that no DNA or fingerprints. would be found. The judge agreed with prosecutors and said, Jake spawned at five million dollars. He was ordered to not have contact with Jamie or anyone who helped rescue her. Meanwhile investigators worked to build their case against him, the Wisconsin, state crime lab, Determined Jake to be the single source of male DNA found on the shotgun recovered at his cabin. The three spent shotgun shells the clause home a match to the three bullets remaining in that shotgun. A pair of boots at the Patterson's house had a mixture of two males DNA Jake Patterson and James Clause. And Jamie's DNA was found on various items taken from his car. On February twenty, eighth two, thousand Nineteen Care Eleven reporter Liu Reduce received a handwritten letter from Jake. Reduce had mailed jake ten questions saying quote I'm a reporter for Care Levin News in Minneapolis and had been covering the case since Jamie disappeared. I have many questions that have not yet been answered through the court filings please write back if you can. Law In crimes? Aaron. Keller has the details. In a letter to Minneapolis television station Harrison says I knew I was caught which I thought would happen a lot sooner. I wouldn't fight anything I tried to give them everything then scribbles wasn't completely honest. So they didn't have to interview Jamie they did anyways and her more for no reason the letter is filled with scribbled thoughts but Patterson says he plans to plead guilty I want Jamie and her relatives to know that don't want them to worry about trial when responding to a question from a reporter about what led him to kidnap clause in the first place Patterson said, it's not black and white. When asked if he had remorse, Patterson said huge amounts than I. Can't believe I did this Patterson refused to detail his long-term plans after he admits he kidnapped Jamie. But he did take a swipe at the authorities immediate days. Go we stood before you speaking but the unthinkable tragedy cops say I planned this thoroughly and that I said that they're really good at twisting your words around put them in different spots straight up lie little mad about that trying to cover up their mistakes. I guess this was mostly unim- pulse I don't think like a serial killer when asked what was going through his mind when he started perpetrating the Crime Patterson said he was angry and didn't want to do it but the reason I did this is complicated. Jake revealed his own plans for his case and March twenty, seventh two, thousand nineteen he appeared before Judge James Babbler. Signing this form that you wish to indicate to the court that you've gone through the entire two page document and attachments with your lawyers. Understand it, and wish to enter into this plea agreement is. Jake agreed to plead guilty to two counts of first degree murder and one count of Canada being the burglary charge would be dismissed. In addition, the state would not file criminal charges against him for crimes committed in Douglas County. Now that his conviction was out of the way, the battle for his sentence would begin. Barron County District Attorney Brian, right requested. Jake. Be Sentenced to the highest possible for the safety of the community beginning with Jamie clause. The thought he gave to doing something even after seeing the police leaves little doubt about the grave danger that Jamie Gene Nodar and Peter and Kristen Kosinski us and their family were in if Mr Patterson had found Jamie before police arrived. The defendant had already shown what he would do if anyone got in the way of what he wanted kill anyone with Jamie and leave no witnesses behind. Mr Patterson is a cold blooded killer who traumatized a thirteen year old girl for eight days. He brutally murdered James and Denise because they stood in the way of his getting away with kidnapping. The girl he saw getting out of school bus, a girl whose name he didn't even know when he kidnapped her. Defendant. Insists he is a good person and this makes him. During Jamie's period of captivity. He told her that she had it really good at his residence told her how good he was treating her how she could have it a lot worse. On his job application which he completed the day. Jamie. escaped. He wrote that he is an honest and hardworking guy. When he was interviewed, he told investigators. I'm like a nice guy, most of the time end of quote. Mr Patterson's lack of insight into why he is not a good person. makes him a continuing danger. He has no empathy or remorse for killing James and Denise. Right said Jake's words to the reporter that is reasoning for kidnapping Jamie was complicated was an indignity to James and Denise's lives. He said he murdered them in order to not get caught and viewed them as inconsequential. Right said the one mitigating factor in the case was Jake's decision to plead guilty but that shouldn't move the scale one bit. A defendant will stop at nothing to get what he wants if he is ever released from prison. The need to protect the public starts with Jamie. If Mr Patterson is ever released from prison. He will find Jamie and when he does her life will be in jeopardy. After two weeks, the defendant thought he had gotten away with murdering James and Denise and kidnapping Jamie. After eight days he was so confident he had gotten away with it that he applied for a job. He got caught because Jamie didn't follow his rules. He made it very clear that something really bad would happen to her if she didn't follow his rules. Not only did she not follow his rules but in his self obsessed way of looking at why he got caught, she betrayed him by escaping. It. was because she escaped that he got caught. For Jamie's safety, the defendant can never be given an opportunity to bring about what he meant when he told Jamie that something really bad would happen to her if she didn't follow his rules. Defense Attorney Charles Glenn. To at least grant Jake, the chance for parole. So he could have access to treatment while in lockup. Glenn said the writer of the pre sentence investigation report got carried away with emotion and made an unqualified analysis of Jake's mental health. The report recommended life in prison without the possibility of release. The used. Language like Mr Paterson succumbed to his twisted fantasies. Now I'd expect to hear that from people and we we actually heard it today. We heard those words, but that's not the role of a PSI rider they work for the state. This court ordered that PSI to be objective and it wasn't. Throughout it there is personal opinion and even some attempts diagnosing Mr Paterson with certain mental health. Diagnoses, which I don't believe the PSI writer is credentialed for. In is not able to do so but did so nonetheless now Mr Paterson Mr Jones and I fully understand that someone could get caught up in the. Strong emotion of this case, we've all lived through this. It's been a tough tough time. but to do that in the context of presents investigation. Is, just not right and it doesn't assist the court and coming to a fair and just sentence. The defense had a mental health expert interview, Undiagnosed Jake. The expert found he did not have sociopathic psychopathic tendencies. The doctor found there were no mental health diagnoses that applied to him and concluded that his actions were not part of escalating behavior arising from childhood or adolescence. Quote. Mr Paterson severely overreacted to his loneliness and resulted disconnection to most people due to his self imposed isolating behaviors. His criminal actions were a desperate attempt to inject some meaning into his life and give him a reason to live without regard for harm it would cause to others. Defense Attorney Richard Jones said that the only reason they didn't take the case to trial was because their client didn't allow them to. We found him to be direct. Intelligent. Honest. With. US. remorseful. We found to be a quiet man that struggled with the way to. The of his actions and the magnitude of what he had done. We found him to be a man so burdened by the magnitude of his actions that you find difficult to look at us. He was so burdened by his actions that he struggled to tell us a story that he'd already given to law enforcement in great detail. We came to realize it was because the significance of the story that he had told in the details of that story began to resignation he started to really appreciate what he had done. He was embarrassed. He was hurt. But. He was willing to accept responsibility. Joan said Jake insisted on pleading guilty and ask the judge to consider this as a huge mitigating factor. JAMMIES end Jennifer Smith was appointed as her legal guardian. She spoke at Jake sentencing hearing. It's so heartbreaking. We now live in fear every day. Watcher Bax. Have home security systems we don't feel safe. I will say I won't let you destroy my family no more. We can be happy again. Smile more. Move forward with life and that's why we can. We will know you will be behind bars for the rest of your life and pay for all the evil. You have done. I Want Justice for Denise Jim, and Jamie. Attorney Chris Graham Strip then read the following statement on behalf of Jamie. Quote last October Jake Paterson took a lot of things that I loved away from me. It makes me the most sad that he took away my mom and my dad. I, loved my mom and dad very much and they loved me very much. They did all. They could to make me happy and protect me. He took them away from me forever. I felt safe in my home and I loved my room and all of my belongings he took all of that too. I don't even WanNa see my home or my stuff because of the memory of that night. My parents and my home where the most important things in my life. He took them away from me in a way that will always leave me with the horrifying memory. Jamie said that she has to have an alarm in her house now just so she can sleep. That, she used to love to go to school hang out with their friends and Dan's she said, he took all those things away from her that she now do them because she gets scared an anxious. Quote. But there are some things that Jake Paterson can never take from me. He can't take my freedom. He thought that he could own me but he was wrong I was smarter I watched his routine and I took back my freedom I will always have my freedom and he will not. Jake Paterson can never take away my courage. He thought he could control me but he couldn't I feel like what he did is what a coward would do I was brave he was not. Judge Babbler allowed Jake, the opportunity to speak before issuing his sentence. I would do like. Absolutely anything. Of Die. You have Cellini thing to. Bring them back. Capable he just. Just. So sorry. Judge Babbler told the close family that he sorry for what they endured. He said James and Denise close did what good parents could do and gave up their lives as their daughter was kidnapped. Judge Babbler quoted Jake statement in which he said he fantasized about kidnapping girls and killing their families. Jake repeatedly shook his head to throughout the hearing at one point interrupting the judge and saying why don't you read the rest of the letter I wrote a lot more than that and your ignoring it. There is no doubt in my mind that you are one of the most dangerous man to ever walk. On this planet. There is talk of your remorse, but as the agent points out in the PSI, there's a difference between regret and remorse. Regret means you're sorry that you're caught remorse me to have empathy for the victim's. If no doubt that you have regret. And I have no doubt that you have no remorse. The overriding factor in the sentencing is the protection of the public. The rest of the public deserves liberty and justice. You have had long term thoughts prior committing these crimes. Including, kidnapping multiple girls, killing multiple families. And keeping a young girl prisoner. You are the embodiment of evil. Jake Paterson was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. He registered officially as a sex offender. while. In Wisconsin's Dodge Correctional Institution? Jake was accused of threatening to attack another inmate. Due to safety concerns authorities later transferred him to a prison in new. Mexico. While in New Mexico Jake was seen on video getting into a fight with an inmate there. It's unclear what the two were talking about but the other inmate appears to lunge at. Jake who then takes a swing at his head? A guard can then be seen firing. A beanbag gun towards them. Jake puts his hands in the air and lays down. According to the sheriff the seven-month case generated thirty, two, thousand tips nearly seven hundred pieces of evidence and the. Running active amber alert in Wisconsin history. Jamie. Has Been Living with relatives and her dog molly. State lawmakers honored her as a hero at the state capital. And one year after her kidnapping genie released a statement to the. Quote I really want to thank everyone for all the kindness and concern that people all over the country have shown me. I am very happy to be home and getting back to the activities that I enjoy. I love hanging out with all of my friends and I feel stronger every day. And that's all for this episode. Let me know what you think about this case by joining the conversation on Instagram at court. Junkie. tweeting me at Junkie Pod or by emailing me at PODCAST AT PORT JUNKIE DOT com. This episode was researched and written by Jennifer tickner from the law and Crime Trial Network. Follow her on twitter at Jennifer tintern. 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