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It was an embarrassing performance. That had a lot of people questioning coat who does appear through the season top reacting yesterday. Back. I'm like. We're not it only lay made laid I get that. Go drawn by her neck one. So and made a point earlier this morning when he said something like we're talking about Marquel? Halperin ability to throw speak build. He's a professional, and that's the reality of it. Every time anyone talked about Todd Bowles and his job security. The first thing they say is a good guy. He's a good guy. But this isn't about who's a good guy in a bad guy. This is about whether or not a football team is playing for him. And there is no evidence whatsoever. Certainly there wasn't on Sunday that the jets were. Well, listen, I spoke about the hard thing carbos they walk right now. But I think my real disappointment is what the players because you clean old one talk about, you know, ties my main my guy the guy that I that I wanna play under. But then you lay out there. That was that Bob Matt Barkley who was making us pay two weeks ago. There was only come the look like. Oh, Mong pan out. Okay. So don't give me this crap about oh my God is in coach. I wanna play on that. You feel me? Ryan. Thank you can't keep talking about that. And then you go out there. And just think thank you. You're gonna see a lot of people whether they're writers whether they work in the media, whether they're fans, and they're gonna put all of the owners on the Cote at some point players actually playing paying millions of dollars to go out there and perform, and if you can't muster up enough courage defensively to put pressure on that Barkley to not spread you. That's the problem. That's not on the code and everything one thing going into this season. They didn't have a notable running that they didn't have a notable wide receiver. They don't have a notable tiny. Yes. They drafted the quarterback of the future. But they're whole going into this is not about whether they have holes. There's about a team that did not show up to play on Sunday. And when kings the Wadden quite hard every single week. We always talk about the coach what a great guy what a great motivator. He's got his team ready to play every week. If it doesn't work both waiters. Thank you got every once in a while. I think they're Valentine has earned the benefit of the data. You make eight Super Bowl. Show up to play. They got about LeBron's. They have way more talented than they do that reflection. Other players getting out there to perform fit me home at halftime. I borrow that. Perot only one team. Evacuated on the air right now. Warning the word. Guber Rams out Cooper is adequate to deal with a twenty year. Must've including fantasy owners across the lane berry with kidney looking at on the waiver wire. Mytalk quarterback sleep Prescott very quietly over twenty points and three was black. Lack passing volumes acting free fifty Mark now Prescott facing thousand fits since we to allow you to three hundred yards or three touchdowns in every single day. When also giving third most rushing yards two opposing quarterback per game. So Prescott he's got into the end zone recently with his leg. Find some success on the ground in his team as well. Available to seventy percent of ESPN going to schedule going forward. I taught running back out of the week. Not a great week for running back from the waiver wire, but Josh atten toys here. Adams's eagles can book carries rushing yards. Each latitude. Six point eight yards per carrion. Expand already has more carries sixteen plus yards than all other Philadelphia running back to combine this year, the MAC Adams this week stinks. Currently have believed best run defense. But there's a reason Doug Peterson compared in jadeite Adams available in over ninety percent Stanley my top wide receiver out of the week. Anthony Miller Miller or more targets in four consecutive game. Stephen. Stephen each week in that span Miller available and over eighty five percent. The SPN Lee. Hey, want the most in-depth fantasy football information or just, you know, wanna see a grown man, talk to puppets. Then you've gotta get the fantasy show. We're screaming all season long on ESPN. Plus. Plenty of ice can be on that we've got candy for you one big as well guys. Let's take a look at this. How about the kings this thirteen airing FOX with the deal? He got the alley fully signed with the Kaelin. Your thoughts on great. I'm happy to see the kings, actually have a pulse. Congratulations to body. Doc one with MIR colleague Don playing will come into his own anytime making plays at San Antonio team. They have beaten sits teen. It's a three-time reflection on the buzzer. Widowed me. They won by writing. How about this one the bulls and the man LeVine with the field and how about the jeans? Because I thought there Leslie double dribble. Was better. Lewis was. Yes. There was done was. Okay. But it will never ever call. The fact that a way. Away, three double poems. Dribble. Yeah. It is. They don't call that dribble. More have. Oh, no one is bothered Dale was playing for the rafters Steph. Curry was amongst the youngsters out there. Toronto for were just like this. So you never know what the kids hold onto that cliff did his license plate number and maybe covering the one that. The lightning. We got what the driving agent Toronto. Name on. One way or another. Federally on the. We will welcome. You back for our get up as we come to you live as always about the Heineken river Dak peers seventeen we have a lot of fun to be had as our continues. And we're gonna get into something right off the top of this hour that I think is fundamental jailing your fame and you like to debate with me being fan. You're that rare player who gets on my case about some of my phantom. We're gonna make your point gonna make like is it reasonable or unreasonable about fans, whether you should be rooting against your team for the purposes of getting a better driven people need to tweet us and tell us what they think became a Malaya's fan. Yeah. We won one playoff game is sixteen years of never rooted for us to lose to get drafted. Or maybe that's been the problem. He would've wants. Decades. Because after a while becomes irrelevant. How did we get? We get there by taking a look at Monday night to go forty Niners teams. But one of it would win. It was an ode L making huge by. Out on the deadline day for levian report. The Steelers will wars players follow his lead. Lee with looking for new deal in question. A loss of the titans. Like a cause for concern in New England. But didn't highlights problems that are not quite. Scowled answers to those questions and more power. Right. Math with the giants and the forty Niners in San Francisco in the first quarter, Damian what do the giants down three look at the pocket. Ten days. Great good. He would find owed L back with throw three touchdown record a downtown. Here's another. Back to the end of all is pick Takkula, get bigger. We make come right back. Tetum cleaned right off the line. Begging giant played back to back would have better. The office or one of the. Respect the other gal. The giants with three like kind of bring it back now with the final three minutes. That's ingram. Divine Eli with nineteen thirty one. And then take the act twenty countries tonight at what little over at the end of right here. That's why you'd wanna talk about coming up. Running the football down here for filling with the cats that touchdown. He had a quite fight. But that one is the giants twenty seven twenty three. Final. Hold on do come to San Francisco. Snake drive down the field. They needed to win at Goodwin out of behavior. Go down back. You're exactly right. And it would take. Man. They get the ball. Walk one more. They get one last try and years, Nick Mullins four the wing. For the little twice around and out of the that the come to an end the giants winning twenty seven twenty three. Playing football. This is my love the deal. Great teammates of great support. And we came out with football game. And I told him that we've worked you hard not to feel the the joys of winning football game. Looking several games. We're gonna tamper with what happens after that salvage. Remember salvaging wouldn't say we gotta win games this as I was growing. I don't come here to lineup and lose we come here to winning. That's exactly the right thing to say. But here's the reality at the I favors. The giant six point seven gained vital 'cause they will finish the season with five and the number seven pick in the draft. So they bring Giffen interesting really came up in our three meeting this morning. We have a bunch of giant fans, and they were all be moaning the fact that the giants won this game because they're taking to even though it was not even a veil, but you're taking. Ever empowered Herber or whatever to do. So let me before I get to the athletes of the former pro athletes the table. Let me start with you to you for or against your team when your team is hopelessly out of it iron for them. And I think I take more of the player and coach standpoint specifically players, and maybe that's because I'm on the sideline as a reporter. And I see how hard these guys are working to win games. And I think for fans, Dan point, it's hard for me to look at it as a peer fan because I want them to speed. And they're in the throes of terrible as if you're to the point where you're rooting against the team, they feel like the wind is so allusive they can't even buy one into know that people are actually rooting for them to lose that. I cannot get on board with that at all. I would never do it. I think you always fan should be fan of your roof into one vote on that side get to the place. I've never done it. But if I was going to do it will have to be a perfect store. It would have to be my teams already out of it. Right. And a game changing prospect is going to be an address because you root for your team to lose. But if nobody is going to be a game, but in the Tate, it becomes relevant. So like you against the giants. But you can't tell me who you want them to pick. So that makes it a relevant to root against very didn't do. I didn't really waiting Similac on the breath working coming in this year. My team know as a full player I won't want the guys to go up to win every single week. And is so they didn't think they fall into it. But I'm not going. The lose. Only one with any sense at this table. We in the area of analytics, right? My team, for example, the New York Jets they enter trade up last year they had to give away other assets in order to move up to draft Sam darnold. It would have been awfully nice to have lost one more game last year that would have been otherwise completely meaningless in the larger picture and not after trade anything to be able to draft the quarterback. It's logic makes the lying. Just makes darnold onto the hall of fame. Pump the brakes on that. If he got a chance, I if the jets had taken saquon Barkley Todd Bowles with a kept his job we've been talking about this about that. I disagree with anything more than that. I wanted to talk. Warriors way down in this rankle. Back off the glass. Thirty points on twenty four and he was to get a. Dollar who had. Back to play. Ties the game. And now Jalen did we go? Quickly. What life is all about? The final four times champion already has. People. The best way what what's happening here. Hey, guys, did stamping one another. He knows it made a bad. When I grow all right now, they get to overtime here down. Is call Kevin Durant on that. But yet because that's the exact same players like Kevin Durant fourth to call. Normally when they're facing this particular from this point on. Williams with twenty five point forty five seconds ago. No more. With the shot. You missed right. That's coupon. Finished late in a basketball game and excited quickly. Get a win one Twenty-one Davis in the pelicans take it onto why and the rafters in the second quarter, pelicans elitist. About this conversation is the player here because you don't want to leave. Athleticism to play a lot twenty five points at twenty rebounds. In the pelicans behalf seven point. It's seven twenty twenty points. Downpour after the later in the data to the top of the eleven and then again watch. Throws all fourteen later in the pelicans eleven holiday throwing it up and down. He was eleven twenty for the game. Pelicans, one twenty one dollars basketball, we go. You're just last week Laura do jumping from four to one in the people after their huge win over Kentucky thing about them. Is they've gotten on so many more guys RJ's bearing ready. The list goes on and on Jones as they are going to be unstoppable. Everybody's days. How you have a favorite in eighteen. Yeah. Well, the heart, but it's basis triumph resign. So they could possibly. Perfect storm. Good these cloudy minute. That could be let's go to the NFL. We are. The report today play this year last hour, get up we talked to are Steelers porter charity Fowler about the end. These. They'll watch is almost over and all I can confirm belly's still in town. The Steelers still believe it's highly unlikely that bell shows his face today before four PM now, they are ready. Just in case, they would give him a physical, and they would be off and running with bell on their roster. But the team believes he's either in town as a giant misdirection play playing local basketball L A, fitness, maybe not being Dame state. Just yet. Or clarification with a collective bargaining agreement. That says bells franchise would be twenty five plus million dollars. Whether he plays a down this year or not so Damian what he what do we make of it? He's town know what expected to show up. What do you think that replaced? It helped me at all. You know the Steelers rolling right now, all physically comments rolling. I mean, that's just be point of if I'm the locker and you. Weekly. He's not your team making more after four o'clock because he's played his last game with the Steelers. Here's what I wanna point out. He's gonna walk away from fourteen million issue as this take this seems when he signs the three new deal like fifty TS. Go to work right now. I think he's fifty TS. We need to come up with some while how about the money back wound up getting three can talk about this to me this thing that mapping yesterday. Mark Davis who owns the Oakland Raiders took the blame in an interview with the SPN for the raiders one eight start on the topic of Khalil Mack. He made it clear that it was the owner who made the decisions he could word came back in certain players that know him and talk to him any mad and know me as well that he wasn't going to come in. He was good to do the Levy on bell. At that point. I said. But I cleaned that up the guy had to anybody. We've got to do. But look back through the mic to time. Remember all the conversations about how Gruden hasn't reached out to him. They haven't had any contact. Mark Davis, basically saying it was macro wasn't talking to us. He was sending signals. He was going to do what letting bell is doing. And so the owner made the decision to make the trade taking a little bit of the heat. Jon Gruden do we believe that? No. I don't believe that one bit. I feel like I don't know if they pass strep or something ages wanna paint they wanna pay him. What he was what he was worth twenty million type player. And I don't know, you know. Mark davis. Jon Gruden had this kind of thought that you can't have t- twenty plus million per her you type in the roster. Dallas going up. So you can afford at the team to then. It does not they not to pay their best player on their roster. If they got a belly. But I still think it was a mistake weird. Why win Davis not come out sooner bailed Gruden out Lewis wasn't gift the money one hundred million dollars thing, I've all the time. This is the owner fallen on the floor for John Rune who he gave the money to let me mention two names that we haven't discussed today that fall in the same category as Levy arm Bill who's holding out Khalil Mack. Who led he was gonna hold out? Ronald Darby play football this year for Philadelphia. And we're not gonna talk about guess what you're going to be free agent. This. He got hurt this past right? How about Earl Thomas? We haven't written his name since he got injured and sold those two guys chose to play. And they got hurt. What I will say is the Levy on thing. The fact that is going to sit out the entire season actually, make more sense to me than playing at all the reason. I was so critical of it initially was I like most people thought he had to show what by now and play the rest of the way in order to become the free agent. He wants to be maybe once. Our field. I mean as. Tell you. What have we give me my brain? Yeah. Give me my games. I mean the. On the training room. We'll see if that's what happens keep an eye on that. Meanwhile, we'll go to college. I'm not perfect. If the Irish will still be undefeated after fifteen on Saturday. What? Of point five on the outside looking. With the eagles and whether or not they picked it. That's next get up. Their wins. The twenty two games thirty twenty four win over navy on Saturday next tech natty this data college game. They will be there. Arthur. Definitely Golden Knights in their head coach joined lack night with pats. Hervey beams there is my guy heard speaking to better. Probably people around. You've got a clear road ahead of them. There's there's no nobody in the way. Listen, our fans are passing our program believe in what we're doing. And we look forward to having are Hervey here and getting them what you told about. Hervey joining us now. And look I was in Orlando for UCF game on a Thursday night. Earlier this evening times in the crowd that mention your name Kurtz, Harney Phelan about your fifties. This week. Fired up and Taveres to get down there actually, their fan base has every right to be fired up and let people know that they think they deserve to twenty th grade, and the fact that the competition's getting better I think allows them to be able to showcase their team. And and be challenged this week Cincinnati pickle and his second year doing a really good job of playing good defense and they found a balanced offense of attacks. So I think it's great that game. Going noxious is down there to celebrate UCF. What they've done. I think it's more about the fact that they have a great match up. But yeah, all all have a few extra friends around me as we make our trip down there. No, no question about I cannot wait for this. And it is fun. Because when you talk to the UCF players, everyone talks about the fans, but the players have used this as a lot of motivation for then they have been fun to watch this year. Now Harvey you were on the call for Clinton's win over Boston College. You saw Trevor Lawrence in person in person there. I mean quarterbacking seen in a couple of times here, you feel like the gap between Alabama and Clemson is closing a little bit. I know I know Devo doesn't want to be on that bus with Alabama. But he he and his team definitely are on that bus those there's Clemson and Alabama. And then there's everybody else at this point that doesn't mean other teams can't win. It just means that it's a different level of execution different level of athlete right now. Those two rosters. Yeah. Watching watching Trevor Lawrence. This kid is just scratching the surface, and he's already really good. But you know, he's always started five or six games. People have to understand he's gonna make some mistakes, but you could see the accuracy arm screen. The ability to process defense is this early in his career with being their team is quite so it's gonna be fun to watch him grow one of those personalities because highschool quarterbacks that grow up in today's world, we expected to be freshman and expect him to kind of get nervous when they go into certain environments. These guys have been. Because it's so social media because exposure lead eleven they've been dealing with pressure since they were in ninth and tenth grade, especially his program that he played in high highschool. So the almost looks like he's been there and done that like he's at Boston College the other night and everybody talked about it's cold. And it's Wendy. Teams playing in the backyard. He just did not care about this big -nificant to the game. Or what's it staying just out there playing the way he always has? And so as these games have bigger for him. I I really would be shocked if he didn't just stay flat line mostly and just go out and try to execute. And do the best thing can an incredible point these young quarterbacks. Look like, they aren't fazed by anything that comes their way the long lots flowing Trevor Lawrence. Thanks curvy being with us. You're just a little bit shorter. But we will tonight on ESPN. The next football top twenty five ranking seven PM eastern teachers look about the theme. But could be changes coming up next week. What happens you can always live on the ESPN app? A well from anyway. Bring to the Philadelphia Eagle Vale four and five after a loss to the Cowboys on Sunday night and coach Doug Peterson made reference yesterday to what has gone wrong far thinking. Injuries and all that kind of stuff. We try not to do that. But you know, we just gotta make sure that this group, and this is what I I really respect about this group of what I heard in the locker room after the game from some of our leaders that they're disappointed disappointed in the way, they play the disappointed in the outcome of the game. And they know that you know, we talked about having no regrets no risk during the week. And no writs on Sundays. And right now, we got to continue to work on that. All right talk about that. With attainment d what could we have gotten him a larger chair? This is. This is. Mayor. What the Super Bowl hangover is like you one championship. And I watched the Ingles. They've had some injuries. But for the most part the cast is the same whence his back and playing great, and they don't look like the same team. Do you think we're seeing Super Bowl hangover effect here? I think there's something to their listen, they're they're they haven't played as well of all the line do particular secondary hasn't play. Well, but greeted his happening. You have to every team plays. You like it's their Super Bowl. I'm back in two thousand two we would be looking at some teams, and you watch more light man these bugs one right through. And then you go out there, and they give an herculean effort. Like, literally, you fighting for your live out there on the football and imagine gig net teen games that. So that's a whole order. And that's why it's so hard to repeat as it's not a spectacular division. Do you think the eagles have a tough schedule can still whenever you seeing things in them that tell you they can win the NFC we'll cost. Playing is playing better seems like he's starting to get into a groove. If they can beat the one if they can get the running game going more in something deepest with particularly in the password. That are definitely the eagles came. When Beijing I'm on anyone really things that Washington is run away with the NFC. Right. I feel the same way to me. It's almost as though you're not believing what your eyes are seen. We've seen this team be so much better. But that was a statement loss if you will from tonight against the Cowboys, they had a chance to bury Dallas chance to reestablish themselves and the division and next thing, you know, they're looking up in Zeki, lawyers jumping over them. And as you from hembo. They're the toughest schedule the rest of the way. The eagles are going to get back in this thing. They are going to earn it. All right as we continue here on get up this morning James Winston, we'll be on the sidelines again. Weaken the boxer Dicky with magic. Anything for why doing this to me? There's only one reason and it's bells. The ring I think fourteen that here's. This was like this which quarterback this here. Has the lowest QBR against the blitz. Any quarterback is a sport. Darnold every Tom Brady. Flacco. Backer team. Hiring is all about finding the right person for the role. That's why when it comes to posting your job go where you have access to an engaged community that people visit every day Lincoln most thinking members having recently visited the top job boards, but nine hundred ten members are open to new opportunities. And with seventy percent of the US workforce on Lincoln. Posting on Lincoln is the best way to get your job opportunity in front of more of the right people. It's no wonder new hires made every ten seconds using Lincoln Hindle Lincoln dot com slash get up for fifty dollars off your first job post. That's Lincoln dot com slash get up to fifty dollars off your first job post. Terms and conditions apply. We are back on get out that we left. He listen trivia, which horseback this team. Do you think has the lowest QBR against of lives would have been famed Arnold camping Brady would've been Joe flacco having flacco get one oh there is. Radio news. Again is twenty three point six the lowest in the league and on pays to be by far the lowest marketed season since ESPN tracking such thing in two thousand six Damian. What are your man he used to make a living blocking for him? Brady doesn't really seem to have fallen off particularly is not sort of the task. But those numbers are stark. I think doesn't look that good. What's wrong right now at New England number one. You know, the focal point is always being wrong golf is always being kind of the guy that everything is all that been gronk is not wrong. He's grown. We've been accustomed to seeing that the best what you know, whether injury this tool, and so what he did. The other guy, and quite frankly, the other guys whether it be outta me. Boy. Chris phobe these guys for nuts in the back that up so title windows, you got teams bringing person and all these you know, a guy Tom Brady whose only throw one touchdown in three past. Past are so good though at like a Justin. When there's a reason they're somewhere talking about them creating separation. What can they do maybe even criminal offensive system plan to make this better for them? Terrific coach coaches only coaching staff for meals medically. They'll they'll they'll be things guys over whether the, you know. From a lot of the National Football League. But again with the pace is usually starts with Tom. I mean and not well, he's healthy. So they're gonna have to their attack. It really does make me think about some of the players. They've allowed to get away. Brandon coaches the guy that could have been there right now. They're hoping to get some of that dynamic play. You would think that address Gordon but that bitty on there with designed to demonstrate he's got nowhere to go with the ball. I mean there were times he watched them play. They're not getting that separation. You pointed out the numbers back that up. It's braiding people look at that number. Oh, my goodness lowest QBR against the blades. But it really does feel as though I it looks that way. When you watch them it's less about him than it is about what's around. Absolutely. Those guys are just not separated right now, I have completely complete pavement coaching staff, and these guys they got gotta do there. And there have been some times or they've tried to go faster this season down helps at all. Maybe just in cancer. Justin count on the here. So sometimes when you when things on clicking office Lee. Tipple open that that that's and that really hasn't been working as well. So, you know, listen, they got billeted, Josh mcdaniels terrific coaches there. I'm sure they'll find a way to kind of remedy situa-. I really just send that we're running the hurry. They're really actually have a great musician there. Anyway, good job on that. The bills relief is we get too caught up on KOMO news. Nathan peterman. Lose one hundred and thirty three regular things. We remembered eater mundane. Man man man every team in the opposite jersey goal. The other way. Quarterback is your third leading tackler nicknamed me. No things have gone really in the wrong direction. Through no. To that. It would be. That one that's not in fact. Gonna move onto Cooper Cup after all that after going down with a non contact injury. Again. Code John McVeigh's yesterday to out this other weapons, obviously gaming, but how big of a lot of rubber. They're most reliable. You know, you look at. I mean, he made plays play off the plane for them. So to to have that weapon. Not in there. All snow that's put her weapons on their office. But again, I think he was they're most reliable receive on often usually the team left standing at the end is one that was fortunate or not could not in buffer huge injury. As you go through as good as they've been. I agree with you what terrible thing tighening form of Pro Bowl receiver. Brandon Marshall to the really Brian Kelly tracked by Friday. Does he really matter? My that's my question because it doesn't matter of face through August this forty fifty game. Anyway, Brandon Marshall has no question about that. You would think in the red zone heaved a particularly reveling. You have Michael Thomas and a TA Boston the backfield hard start to. On the case. You know, no risk. Out of any kind of weapons anyway. All right after only scoring points to Redskins but code cutter announce gifted as the team will take with Ryan tactic quarterback week eleven against the giants incapacities pointers. Getting back points the lack week. Starring jane. What you think this is fascinating? Because I think this is an indictment on Jameis Winston. I think the the organization is telling you everything you need to know about work their plans all along the loss buccaneer cutters. They're to get five owners ace mandate. Okay. Please. The weeklies king. We've pony of the money to pay got long-term. The fact that this Rodney. That's everything you need planes to me. This is the most interesting thing that happened in the NFL yesterday. I agree with you. Because what it tells me is they made that decision. I think this is in statement that they've made that decision and re- in reality would were still paying all here's career while they need to see what they have in Jameis Winston. Maybe they telling you at this point. We've seen everything we need to see. Now. What's fascinating is. What will that mean? What will happen? Jamie twenty not going away someone we'll find him. Someone will bring him somewhere. They don't wanna pay him that money. I don't think he has no through the NFL. But this to me is fine. He doesn't have that teacher in Tampa. Oh, absolutely. I think they bucket. I think internally have decided to move on there that Winston twenty four years. Years old. He's going to get another shot. There's no question. I don't think it's going to be. That ain't change of scenery could help him. And when people look at him is it more the turnovers that he has or is it maybe off the field stuff change of scenery. Would would I think would help them. But he needs to some coast to coast out those coach him out of some of those turnovers because listening. Listen when you play the quarterback position, your number one Alvis to what protect the footballing turns it over weight too much. Maybe everything they could to make that work. They ran lovey out of air and gave the job because they were frayed to lose cutter who is going to get a head coaching job somewhere else. Because he seemed to have that dynamic which I'll be very interested to see James Winston is starting quarterback in the NFL week one of next year. This one's going to be funded follow sports center and six PM eastern. Accuracy in Kevin they'll have the latest on the way. Eighteen. The've ESPN can catch on. Infamously? Appears today to issue of tally. Got it. Monthly. This is one of the great moments of my life in the room. Now is one of the genuinely great villains in the history of American cinema and one of the stars of the upcoming cream to which opens Dakota Overberg twentieth. The one the only one. Your life story is fascinating this. We're gonna talk about the films and everything for those who don't know this. You were supposed to go to MIT to study chemical engineering and instead became Drago very quickly. How did that happen? Good question. Yes. Just wanted to do some different than. I studied engineering to impress my dad, but I was champion. So you know, I wanted to be in the movies and somebody's today man, you know, this picture so boxing, movie earth, be rocky Ford. History. Changed your life to be a part of a story brand like rocky now Cree a lot, you know. And I wasn't. Wasn't wanted to play this character again, but those red Trump's on who's doing? Years ago. I was hesitant to read the script, and it's a fantastic spirit and really good director. And it's actually totally different take on the character this time as you're seeing the movie thirty three years ago has completely impossible for me to comprehend. What is the one line from rocking four that people will walk up to you. And quote, the most often where where do you think? Well, I can think of. I had about three lines. Choice. Take our word seeing it's either break you or if you. Those two hell is about to creed comes out, and they have they've done. The miraculously resurrected this ranch is in an entirely new way. Where do we go in cream to well last time Donner's who is a son of a Pollock? Poor fella who you know, this Russian dude to death three years ago. I wrote it by with. So anyway, now, what happens is he goes up into the heavyweights my son drug or starner's heavyweight fighter and I've been thirty three years, and I want to get my revenge. So, you know, that's why I'm back for we while we have you here that maybe we were trying to put together and quick. Right. Could we do that here? Would you mind fighting Jalen and in one way that we couldn't really wait for every? Okay. We've got. We've got to legendary rock. We're going to do the rock him stock and robots. This thing works, you know. It's pretty. If I may do you have any words kale before the guy? The. Three two one. Let's see. Okay. Drago? Twentieth. Everyone in the world. Kind of like. Go to the rock of robot. Stevens. As we just. My brother. Feeling is. Versus. Call. Segment. Not about us. Not the subject. What? Always fun in good evening is not with us. In the house. He is in Washington DC this morning, but he joins us as he gets for. I think warnings being good morning. I want to bring of you guys to that moment last night, Golden State and the clippers Golden State and Draymond green gets an defense of rebound in a tie game. In the final seconds dozen the ball off to Kevin Durant here. It is Lou Williams missing for those it. Kevin Durant is begging for the ball. Draymond green takes it himself runs. The length of the floor and bad things in from there. Then this was the huddle before the overtime. These guys have to be separated in some degree, not not to suggest that they were fisticuffs or anything of the sort. But there was post-race in there. And they weren't blues the games in overtime. I guess the question. I would ask you Stephen is how big a deal should one. Make of that moment last night. I don't think you make a big deal of because Draymond green is in the most one guy and the kind of person gets facing than when you're doing things. Well, Kevin Durant recognizes that understands it let clearly last night was one of those. Needed situations. It looked uncomfortable. We understand that. But that happens Jalen could speak to that a hell of a lot better than me. But that definitely is something that happens. And it's something that's predictable. Anytime Draymond green is involved. Win DeMarcus cousins after restrain you. I mean, it doesn't give funding into markets. 'cause obviously, you know, he can be temperamental himself. But he's in elite league player in this league when he's healthy. And he knows that thing Q about containing some folks folks north thing too about needing contain him and Kevin Durant. You know, it's hard because his thing green. Jalen, you can't really take a side on this. Here's what Kevin Durant is an elite score one of the top three players on the planet. That's of concern. And clearly his offensive game is real and well renowned bought on the Golden State Warriors. The playmaker has religiously been drained from the forward position heat sets things up, but Kevin Durant curry. Last night. Klay Thompson, thirty points and thirty not good. But the point is is that dream on green. Is that kind of catalyst? Come the. So I could see Kevin Durant begging for the ball because it makes sense to get the damn ball in that situation. But it also makes sense, and is indicative of how Golden State does things went to a mon- green is pushing the ball up the floor trying to make a play. So it's really really hard to point thing is in this particular situation. He can't take sign. You've heard there before I've never never came. Now. Cidre my green fellow Michigan. That's little bro, by the way. Trying to do a terrible with me offense with that. Being said you have to give the ball to Kevin the ring. Okay. No question about it. The signature play for Kane being once joined the goes, they warriors. And you were in the building Stephen is when you dribble it up the left side -actly any down LeBron James from thirty five made it three that's a play for him. And when you have the basketball indeed that for in his seconds to go you can't as Draymond green advance. The ball get across. And then turn it over and not get a shot. Attune? Wouldn't really also sells is the owner. Billy of the Golden State Warriors without Steph curry, I know greeny you feel like they've ruined basketball doesn't playing they lose forty percent. Fifty percent of the turn that he's not on the floor. So they might have missed a couple of games due to a foot injury. He returned to the lineup. They struggled without him in. This is just him trying to do too much if that arose again, this is taking the side he won the west. Good ball to Steph. Katie. That's where that's why I'm asking the question. I'm not even debating it with you here. I'm asking the question. My issue is we're Kevin Durant was calling the ball had. They are ready been past half court. Then there's no question. I would be like Draymond green. What the hell? Are you doing you? Give the ball the Candida ring. But because he had gotten the rebounded. It was six seconds left. And he was. He was. Rent was calling for the ball. He was on the back of the business back. That's the only reason I take the position that I think it's hard to I know. Kevin Durant had the ball. But I'm talking about. Lena's push the ball of those last expected and Kevin when they were pants half court, and Kevin Durant was calling for the ball. I totally agree with you. What I'm saying is I can understand why Draymond green wasn't thinking like that under the visiting back after getting a revamp and pushing the ball up the floor because Kevin Durant could Iran with him. But I understand what you're saying that that's the only that I had in my argument and quickly because we live in a society now where we'll make a big deal over anything that looks like a debate there. The fact that the two of them were sort of going at it after that should we make anything of that at no big deal of them personally, John at each other. That's what happens when you take cesspool team was body makes him fake. You look at one another you bark about it. Ultimately own mistake versus a struggling team where the argument can teams in the becomes personal. That's not going to happen in this case. All right. 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Hour 2: Leverage Play

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Hour 2: Leverage Play

"From what I understand. He has already begun the recruiting process. He has I've heard he has had contact with Kawhi Leonard. I've heard. He said, contact with Jimmy Butler others no tampering enforcement by players. And while Magic Johnson, the, the guy who got in trouble for tampering before is no longer there LeBron is tamper in chief of the Lakers. Right now, the thing about it is. I don't know if you know, texts and calls and maybe dinner with LeBron is enough for the Lakers to overcome their hurdles that they're going to have. And so to be honest with you guys on the Lakers really after look at the trade market. How willing were they be to move that number four pick? I really don't think they can honestly think that they're gonna get Kawai kyri or Kevin Durant. Even if they have LeBron as their lead recruiter. Welcome back to I take coming to you live from above the Heineken river, decade pier seventeen now you just heard Brian win horses. Lebron has already started the recruiting process with two of the bigger names on the two thousand nineteen free agent list, Leonard, and Jimmy bowler, Steven A. Do you think LeBron who pull off recruiting star to LA? No, I do not. That's my fear. I hope I'm wrong because obviously getting kyri the doors opened there. Even though I've been told by folks close to kyri denting happening, you hear a wild Linnet of because privately Magic Johnson has a relationship with Kawais uncle, apparently they've known each other for years. And Magic Johnson has still been communicating on behalf of the Lakers, four Kawais. So the Lakers are not ruling themselves out in Kowa linen. Sweepstakes competing with the clippers, of course, there's the Jimmy Butler angle, and of course of Cari, ends up in New York, and Michael Jordan refuses to give Kemba Walker the supermax, which I'm told will not happen. Michael Jordan is not going to trigger the luxury tax. If you got if you've got a team that's not making the playoffs. He's not gonna miss the playoffs and on top of that, all pay a luxury taxes. Well, Michael Jordan is not doing that. And so, because of that, you have to opt the possibility that Kemba Walker would leave. And even though New York would be a desired destination of kyri ends up there, then Kemba chooses wanted the other teams in New York, whether it's Brooklyn or the Knicks or he goes out to LA, so there are possibilities, but my fear is nobody goes. Because if you're Jimmy Butler, why would you leave Adelphia Philadelphia? He's got that town in the palm of his hands right now. It's not because of numbers it's because the way the way he's played particularly clutch moments. He's not scared. He's fearless. He's a rough rider. He's a dog. I mean that in a good way DA WG Philadelphia being that blue collar town that they are they love themselves some Jimmy Butler. So I think it's a really good possibility that he stays. I know him into buys Harris max can't necessarily co exist, or at least it doesn't seem that where this particular moment in time, but the Sixers definitely will prioritize. Keeping Jimmy Butler more so than keeping Tobias Harris. So when you look at it from that perspective other than that, if you LeBron where you're gonna go k D's, not coming kyri, probably not gonna come the clippers believe they can get Kawai. You know, and Klay Thompson is going to stay in Golden State in all likelihood. So you talking about Jimmy Butler and Kimball Walker. Jimmy's probably gonna stay Philadelphia. I think it's a good possibility that will happen. And it will only leave Kemba Walker. So I really really don't know right now. It just seems like a very daunting task to say the least LeBron is gonna pull something off the summer unless magic Johnston is behind the scenes helping because any any agent is thinking about going to LA. They will call Magic Johnson. You can book that they will maker's probably not going to get a superstar in this free agency, period. But how many superstars are there really available, there's Leonard and Kevin Durant. And that's it. Now you're talking about stars under that kyri Irving Klay Thompson Jimmy Butler. You mentioned Kemba Walker. And then even below that you might say, Al Horford, Chris Middleton all star ish. Right. And that's about it. They're not gonna get a superstar to sign. I don't think I must qui- has change of heart and the fact that they're in such disarray in the front office makes it even less likely. But might they sign a star sure. And you mentioned the name Steven Kemba Walker if he's not. Supermax Jimmy Butler, if he's not giving the max extension, and maybe even if he is because it's long been known Jimmy Butler wants to play in LA, and the Lakers could really use a two-way wing like Jimmy Butler, who has that kind of championship part, and desire, and please, real defense and is an offense of star as well. And is shown in these last playoffs. He's clutch, and then Cairo your, I know it's more of a long shot. I've always thought that kyri the one thing that might work is if LeBron humbles himself and calls, kyri and says, look, it takes two and I'm to blame for a lot of that, you know, I think that we had a lot of success together, and you should come out to LA. I'm not gonna play forever. You're going to inherit this team this franchise. And in the meantime, you and I can do some more great things together. So I don't think it's out of the question they get kyri. I think their best shot at a star. Realistically this off season is Jimmy Butler, and I would think they have a pretty good chance to get them. Whether it's clarify that max, you'd think LeBron Jimmy Butler together, make the Lakers title contender a content. Under. Yes, I think that Butler, not only to two way, wings and LeBron can still be two way when you would think in high leverage moments to, to a wings. And one of them's LeBron James and the other guy has the kind of competitiveness that Jimmy Butler has, I think you'll content. Let me say this to you and don't get me wrong. I know when we talk about superstar clutch moments etcetera, let me say this. Let me modify something that I think should be modified about Klay Thompson. I Thompson a superstar shooter. I consider him it superstar shooter wanted to the greatest, and it does it doesn't look doesn't look special. But what I'm saying is, if you wanted to, if you arguably one of the top five shooters in the history of basketball who also plays defense the way that he does. And it's capable of defending three. If now four different positions on the court when are we gonna show the appreciation for Klay Thompson? That's just a point. We're going to revisit that we're going to visit that later the other point that I will make to you is this. When you look when you look at whether it's Jimmy Bulloch Kimball walk or whatever. I'm just the mindset right now where you look at the Lakers, one would argue they're going to be okay regardless because of LeBron hadn't gotten hurt those seventeen consecutive games. They would have been an opposed season, and I think LeBron postseason and best of seven series to plan against most of these teams I still think they would have gotten to the conference. That's just my personal belief. But all I'm saying is at the end of the day when you look at some of these guys. K D going to LeBron going to LA and helping LeBron went I can't see that. And then when you bring up kyri keep in mind that kyri LeBron Kasit up their mea culpas, and all of this stuff. All he wants to it was car Rita call. Lebron that recognized and to some degree that era of his ways when he was in Cleveland. That's true, but it doesn't a gate, the fact that you originally left Cleveland because you want control of your own destiny and you want at your own franchise. So if you go back to if you go to LA and re join LeBron, you'd be revisiting the Butler and you swore you wanted to escape what about Jimmy Butler? That's a star long known as wanted to play in LA. He and LeBron would be a real good combination may not be enough. No, no, no. I'm not saying you're wrong. What I'm saying is working to Philadelphia for seventeen years, knowing people Philadelphia like you do is great as Joel Embiid. He's. And as much potential as been Simmons has Jimmy Butler town right now because they look at him and how he's affected everybody. Just the complexion of the franchises in terms of being a rough rata. They love him all day LA in LA where they're looking for Kobe Bryant. Fearless guy like that. Who is not the games. That's not Jimmy Butler, Jimmy this. Now. I didn't say that. I said, that's not when you say Kobe Bryant. I'm saying that's not Jimmy Butler. That's LeBron James go. Bill abroad. Jane. Oh, but what I'm saying is butlers kind of personality and is competitiveness. Especially with a young core like Lonzo and Ingram and coups are not mentally weak guys. They're not lazy guys. Their workers and they're mentally tough. It seems to me for young players. They're the kind of guys that LeBron and Butler could cultivate. What you're talking about what could. And I'm not disagreeing with it out, telling you what is in Philly day. Lovell and Jimmy Butler has been dying to be loved and respected, and appreciated for all that he brings on the court and off the court for you to nothing. Selfie. He'll never have LA like he has Philly day. I don't make. Let's leave it here today. There's a lot more talk about here. One day, Stephen, we're gonna talk about their other teams with cap room. Besides the teams in New York in LA to talk about if their players this off season as well. Sports right now to Bill Kareem with Zeki Elliott didn't speak to reporters on Wednesday after OT as his shoving incident of Vegas music festival would have been a hot topic. However Jerry Jones did address matter. And it sounds like there isn't much to resolve. In terms of his sat status is not been impacted anywhere. And frankly, I know how conscientious being. Being. That's good enough. No see that having any consequences. This contract negotiation with him. And his agent of been some talk, but we talked contract around here, one hundred percent time and we're talking somebody's contract all the time and we're talking about that. You don't know really where you are with any talk until you get it done. Now, Zeke was suspended six games back in two thousand seventeen for an incident involving his former girlfriend Jones and Jason Garrett appraise Elliott for his maturity and growth since that event versus. Jerry Jones says zeke's incident Las Vegas has not impacted his status with the Cowboys. He has two years, left on his current deal with big now max who has more leverage, and he's contract negotiations that are upcoming Dallas or Zeke Elliott, it's actually Zeki Elliott, which is surprising running back. Yet it is equally. Look when you factor in age production and talent. In other words, sometimes the guy can produce a lot because he's running behind a great offensive line or the offense is built around him. And Zeki leli, certainly, that's the case. But he also has the talent independent of where he's playing or how many touches he gets who is running behind. He is going to be a top flight producer. Because in terms of age talent and production, there are three if you include Kamara four, right? But I would say three include size to you have saquon Barkley Todd Gurley Zeki Elliott, they're in their own category. Really? So that's a premium guy, and he's twenty three years old now. And he plays for a franchise built around the offense of line. And now you and you have the receivers and now you have in defense and the quarterback is good. Enough not to hurt you, but he's not going to carry you there. In fact, the offense is built around. And the running back and they're ready to win. Now, the next guy to go and be replaced is going to be the coach Jason Garrett, if they don't win the Super Bowl, this year, they're gonna look and say, okay, we have everything else now at swap out the coaching about a paper quarterback, and yet they still build the offense round the running back, it is unique position of enormous leverage for Zeki Elliott right now. They spent a huge high number four pick in the draft, which is very, very high for running back until saquon was taking second spent a top five pick on a running back or higher than four they have enormous amounts invested in this team in this interational of the team is equally at this moment has more leverage than his employer disagree. And I think it's laughable to think that most that almost any play in the National Football League has leverage over team in the National Football League. I mean, some place would argue that this is close to prison as they've ever been. That's how they feel about the National Football League. Terms of the dominion, that teams have over respective players Zeke Elliott is clearly a stuffed pressure, fourteen hundred yards season Agean nearly five yards a carry. Although the last time we saw he rushed for just forty seven yards on twenty carries the Los Angeles Rams and that divisional playoff game, which I happily attended just to laugh Dallas cowboy fans it was the one time MAC and will that I was in the hotel lobby of the J W, Marriott, and a whole bunch of cowboy fan too in there. And I was actually a biting them over for drinks and pictures. Come on. Come on where you go where you're going is the one time they Dallas cowboy fans with scurrying away from me. It was. No, how about them Cowboys that night. Everybody was literally all of them. Sorry put thank nauseating, disgusting cowboy fans were actually running away from me with their heads down as they so richly deserved. There's a beautiful beautiful moment for me, one of the best days of the year for me, now, having said, all of that, I recognize the greatness of. Zeki L. But he doesn't have the leverage because here's the reality of the situation, how many times do we hear the great Melkite junior along with Todd mcshay talking about. Although you can't just find an Zeki Elliot. You know what you can find running backs you can find me if you've got a stout offense of line. If you've got a good quarterback. If you've got a good, receiving core, etc. You can find somebody to fill some of those holes. And when you take that into account along with the fact that is Elliott checkered past is going to be relevant come negotiations. He's not in the position of strength that you think he is. I wouldn't sit up things that he has no leverage like you could just pull goals over him because obviously most other teams in the National Football League would take him in a heartbeat. But remember, he's got two years to go. And if I'm gonna Dallas Cowboys, I take my time about offering them that contract extension, because it's, it's pivotal to me that he recognizes the importance of not so. Sullying and staining, the brand anymore than he already has by getting himself in these compromising situations. I have to send a message to him and if I'm the Cowboys, I'm not going to be afraid to do so because it is the NFL we are the Cowboys. It's the cowboy brand and no matter how big is e keel. Elliot thinks he is he ain't that big. Let's keep that in mind. The reason that is equally doesn't have the leverage in negotiations has nothing to do with him as individual with him as a player it has to do with his position. And it's true. The Cowboys have built their offense around the running back position, as you just said. But look what's happened when running backs and gotten paid over the last several years. Todd Gurley injured at the back half of the year they win with. C J Anderson. The onto Freeman had done well with that contract. He got injured right after David Johnson later on bell. We've seen the well warm, welcome. He's got in New York. We've seen that running back. Interim their second contract at age twenty five historically. Go down. No. You love that stuff. I know you love the actuarial charts. They go down all of this matters because that's the market Zeke will be entering which gives leverage to the counters thing. Here's the thing about Ezekiel Elliott makes it a little different his case qualitatively. There are some like the bluest of the blue chip running backs not guys who kinda work there where I'm talking about the guys who hit the ground running so to speak saquon. I think is the best among them girly, I think a second actually think Zeki third, although he's also like healthy. You know, he's young. He is if anything improving certainly not getting any worse DeMarco Murray was the running back once upon a time for Dallas. And he's like a B plus back running behind an a plus line making him. Look like an eight-pack Ezekiel Elliott is an a plus back. It doesn't matter what mine is running behind. He will produce but when he's running behind a really good line. He's just different. So will I fundamentally agree with what you're saying? But there. Are exceptions to the rule. I name three of them, and in Zeki Elliott's case unless you start looking at an injury history if you like and the guys healthy I, I think that he is different qualitatively than a lot of the guys you mentioned. Hold on. I'm not saying that you're wrong about that max it. He's different qualitatively. I get that. I concur with you. I'm simply saying it doesn't you serve or supersede the significance of a, the NFL overall and powers that teams have, and be the cowboy brand, and who they are. And what they mean financially and otherwise. So when I look at it from Zeki Elliott's perspective again, you know, you're not in a position to flex in any way because again, you've missed games due to suspension, you miss games because of your alleged behavior, etc. These kind of transgressions they don't if they don't disappear. He's not gonna have that leverage, put it this way, one of the reasons I think you can get away with that with Zeke now is because the leader of the team Dak Prescott is the model citizen franchise quarterback kinda guy. So they're about a pay Dak Prescott. But the reason. Season. You can get away with paying back Prescott who can't really elevate a team but ain't going to hold you back. If you can get them, there is because they have Zeke you'll Elliott like one of the reason you give back that money is because he can hand the ball to Elliott. Yeah. But the part that you're missing is that because of the character of the man that Dak Prescott is it brings shines more of a spotlight on the transgressions of others like Zeki Elliott, if you had a quarterback in others who were gung ho and messing around messing up. Whatever what then you're just looking at the Cowboys as chaos. But when you've got the fate of face of the franchise like a Dak Prescott balling, and on top of it all being a model citizen and leader that he has appeared to be. You can't have Zeki Elliott potentially disrupting those things himself, and some mess Cowboys, no sign of somehow wind up on clear. Island like all the good players in the league do one of the things, there's one of the thing that gives the Cowboys leverage, there's just only so much they can do. They gotta pay a quarterback and wide receiver cornerback a linebacker. There's only so much money, there's only so much they can do. Let's go on party people. 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When you go to straight, I mean, it takes more than just a couple of guys play all the time team. But whatever it's not rather when a championship, and be thirteen on. So it's all good. Harry offer back. Brings. Now, Klay doesn't think they're six guards better than voters do ESPN's real, plus minus a measure of a player's estimated impact on his team's performance. Seems to back that up in fact every all via guard this season ranked in the RPM. Stop fifty as clay was one hundred seventy third get you back. Take. Play Thompson, saying he's not staffer clay you hate that terrible staffer. Klay, klay. Thompson said there's not six guards better than him. He believes you should be all even be in fact when he was notified on camera that he didn't make any all NBA team. And he hurts. Exactly. Who did you can see? Here's reaction listening to people rattled off who's third team that twenty here's the name Kimball. Walker roles is, is throws his head back shaking. His head the Kimball Walker was chosen over Klay Thompson. So max, let's go straight to that should Kim have been closed chosen over Klay Thompson. No. And they really play very different positions. Have a problem with the way the NBA is not thinking straight, no postseason. We're just a finals MVP on you on them about that. When we say the best player, we don't mean regular season and finals. We mean overall there's no award for that. It's confusing. And even the way that you do the offers team second team thirty. Are you constructing team? I mean somewhat, they are right because. And that I got rid of the Senate, and they said, no, we should have said. But then just forwards into guards if you're constructing team, do you want, Russell Westbrook and Kemba Walker in your back court? I mean those guys do different things than Klay Thompson. They're more skillful overall because they're better ball handlers and stuff, better passers, maybe. But Klay Thompson is not a combo back court player. Neither Kemba Walker really to small Klay Thompson is a great to way, three d win player really like a to slash three two guard or the small forward position. Why not? And for a guy who's like super ultimate three indeed player. He can also put the ball on the floor and make some decisions and pass the ball gets to spots on the Florida score. So, of course, opponents of the warriors want him doing that instead of staffer K D doing that. But that's because of the presence of Stephan candy. Nakas clay's not capable. I hate the stat for clay the real plus minus because those other players that you see. See are the engines of their team, the point guards of their team. So, of course, if most of the resources of the team going to those guys the plus minus is going to be good. That's when they're good is when those guys are on the floor, but Claes on a team where everywhere you look, there's an all-star sometimes he's going to sit down, they're still going to perform. Well, it's not because clay's not great. It doesn't make sense to have a team Steven with Westbrook and Kemba in the backward. If clay Thompsons available, you would not have west Birkin Kemba, you, choose clay, either over Westbrook and Kemba. If you're constructing a team he is a great defensive player. He is one of the greatest shooters, who ever lived and for that level of three and d guy he can also really ball. I agree with Klay Thompson. Well, I agree with them, too. And I think that the important point that needs to be made is that it's a disgrace when you talk about, what Klay Thompson brings to the table and it's not about what God's better than him or not better than him. It's about we take in the regular season into consideration. I would have put Klay Thompson. I'm not saying anybody deserves to be off of it because all the play is can ball. But what I'm saying is, I would have put him ahead of career. I would have put him, head of Russell Westbrook and Kemba Walker. Let me be very clear about that. I'm looking at Kimball Walker right now who are love and all of that stuff. Because I love what he brings to the table. Kemba Walker hasn't been in the last three years, or whatever the case may be even though again it's regular season. And he's carry the Hornets on his back. We know that when he gets going, he's absolutely unstoppable. As the score machine average twenty five game. But nevertheless, that's when he gets going. And obviously as miniature statues. Offensive liability last time. I checked defense matters. And Klay Thompson is one of the better defense in the game. I think people were holding the first seven games of the season against Klay Thompson when he was shooting thirty nine percent from the field. Just fourteen percent from three point range averaging just fifteen points a game he was offered a first seven games of the season. The last seventy one games that he played this year. He averaged better than twenty two points off forty seven percent shooting from the field. Forty two percent from three point range. He's one of the greatest shooters this game has ever seen. He could defend four different positions. And not only that he does what he does while recognizing he's a third wheel on a team. And for us to sit here, a panel of one hundred writers as and broadcasts. It wasn't me to cost this man, potentially thirty million dollars by screwing him over like this. It's sickening to me. And when I look at look at the things that we've said, kyri can ball, we know all world. Talent kyri Irv. It is. But you do now find yourself where his leadership was brought in question. I know of people who are conversations with car kyri urban because they say you better than that. You're better lead in that you're better person, in that you're your ball in that your body language on the court, your lack of inspiration to your teammates, etc. Center, they called him out, not me. But they've called him out about it personally because they got that kind of love form clearly kyri wasn't himself. Russell Westbrook down in point down in field goal percentage shooting down in three point percentage, and listen. He shot twenty nine point eight percent from three last year. Max still it was worse this year for the west code on. Hold on N. He's down free. Throw shooting all the way down to sixty five percent for the free throw line Paul George was doing major major damage for the Oklahoma City thunder. So I think that's a question Mark. So we talk about kyri. We talk about Russell. We. Talking about Kemba Walker. All were question marks and the person that gets sacrificed is a rainy, two-time champion three championships in the last four years on the verge of three peat widely recognized one of the top five shooters this game ever seen, and we're going to trip over him rolling his eyes. We should be proud of Klay Thompson for not throwing up in front of all of the reports for the for sitting there and getting screwed over the way they did the bottom line is think of the players, you just compared to clay from Kemba Walker to Paul George like what is clay? He's getting. When you say screw getting screwed over by the system that they do this, right. Like he's, he's a two-way wing three indeed guy. I'm not even thinking about all of these not a Commodore, but that's what happened they took they took point guards instead of and considered him as competing with the point guards instead of his real competition. It's Leonard who's better than him. Paul George who's better than him. And K D who's better than him? Who else does that job better than Klay Thompson? Right. And nobody. So is it Jimmy Butler like these his these are really competing against? But somehow in this system, he's competing against Kemba Walker. And think of it this way you're trying to win a championship. Right. You want Kemba Walker Klay Thompson. Do you want, Russell Westbrook or Klay Thompson Klay Thompson is a guy with whom you can win a championship? We've seen it. He doesn't need the ball, but he doesn't damage with it. He can defend your the other best wing player. He's six seven to one of the greatest shooters, ever. And he's a great team player. He should be on the loose. But max, his, here's the thing, and I get all of that. And obviously I just made that point but I gotta tell you something, there's something else that I'm going to throw out here. Yes, we can make arguments for everybody because again, they all can ball. But you have to understand these board. These broadcasters sports writers, you know, the rules and you know by leaving him off. You're going to cost him potentially thirty million dollars. Now, this Klay Thompson deserve that. I understand that, you know what Campbell walkers and live for the supermax, even I don't think he's going to get it, and what have you. But when you have something that close that debatable. What about what about what this do does on both ends of the floor? What about what he sacrifices? What about how we give it we've given Chris Bosh and Kevin love in the past major kudos for what they sacrificed for the betterment of the team Klay Thompson does that. And you go and cost. Thirty million dollars. Wasteful this disgrace Thompson, there really two or three there three team. So six lots for him. Tell me six guys complaint. You slot. You stick slots. Here's our. I'll look at it. This five guys on each all in BAT one two and three. Don't tell me fifteen different dudes. He's the league. The I understand that. But I'm just I'm just how her team don't tell me that fifteen different dudes deserve to be recognized more than him. When he's a three time champion there really is. I'm sure he's upset about the money lost as you point out Steven he did say I'm going to the finals for the fifth straight year. Those count for something those matter for something are, by the way, will what is greatest. Steph is what was Steph being if he didn't have Klay Thompson in the back court to take some of that pressure off of him as well. Hey, it's Dan Patrick here to tell you about the Dan Patrick school, sportscasting teamed up with full, sail university to create a sports casting bachelor's degree you work both on and behind the cameras and you build skills for the future of sports you can connect with audiences no matter where they are or how they're to Ning in. Learn more about full sail universities, Dan Patrick school sportscasting by going to full sail dot EDU slash Dan. Patrick school. Janas put up twenty four points, but missed many of the pivotal moments late in game five after tweaking his ankle. He says the buffs will not fold after the loss, as they face elimination in Toronto on Saturday night. Stephen eight what more can you honest due to force a game seven? For. Find a way to get to the whole dominate from the interior. No matter what the constable little what he did in the regular season. I don't think it can be done. I've lost faith in them. But if he does that it could change things like I said, there's levels to this and Kowa has shown he's on a different level. Dan, is primarily because he has a perimeter shot that he can rely on. Yes, Janas the big three near the tail end of the game for twisted his ankle a little bit and going down. And having the miss a few possessions, which ultimately led to them losing the game. But the reality is that even though he honest capable of hitting shots from time to time from the perimeter. That's not his game. He can't rely on it. And as a result, they don't have to respect it, trust it, which means they get to suffocate the lane. And in most instances, they know it's still going to track them to come down there and challenging two and three guys at a time. That's what he's going to try to do. Because that's primarily what he knows. Ause then the supporting cast and he has available to him has stepped up. Bledsoe. Can't hit perimeter shots counts of brogden, the only guy that seems to be able to create anything off the dribble. George hill is playing better than Bledsoe. When given the opportunity, but for some reason, booting holder has elected to keep Bledsoe in there. Obviously, you look at mirror tissue and Lopez. And he looks over these guys. I mean they can make shots when open. But when you can test them, they got a real struggle because they certainly can't put the ball on the floor. So unless those things change. I don't see how they can overcome the adjustment that Nick nursemaid in putting Kawai Linnet on the Greek freak max. You talked about what in the league defender Kawara, Leonard has been we've been talking about that much. No one is ever denied about him. But we've seen it elevate to another level in terms of what he's been able to do with the Greek freak. He's just a brilliant, defender and eve. Even when the Greek freak scores, it's with difficulty. Look you've taken him out of his game. And I don't know how you fix that. I really don't who is incredible. I expected the Greek freak to get the better of this series by the end because of his size. It's the size mismatch, but he has not been able to do it because co is incredible. He's the best player in basketball. I think this series decides who the best base basketball player in the world is. And right now it looks like why don't agree on it says an enormous two games right now? I do think there's something honest can do to force game seven. It's what he didn't game two against Boston. You know, they were walling off and not giving them anything easy right in the pain and what he didn't game to focus on using the penetration when he got going downhill, and got to the paint, when, when they will off to create high quality shots for his teammates, which then opens up space for him now, part of that starts with attacking with ferocity. Yes. But also with the mindset. That he's going to look for teammates. What happened last night was by the time the honest kicked teammates. They were bad passes due guys right on brogden guys. Right on who ever had the ball. Right. And so they would think do I shoot I there's, there's a defender in my face I really can't and they were hesitant and that really disrupted the offense for, for Milwaukee, the most important factor in my view to the success of team that shoots from the outside is the pass that determines it does a guy have to reach for the ball is the out of rhythm. Or did he get it where he wants it in rhythm when Janas who's an underrated passer, honest has those laser beam cross court LeBron James style passes when you honest is, is getting into the paint going in that direction with the mind toward creating quality looks for his teammates. That's when the bucks are really unstoppable, because pick your poison. He has not been that recently credit Kurai, and that leads me to my second point. Here's the other thing, honest can do if he's capable of doing it. This is where. -perience kicks in Yoenis is not yet quite in his prime. I don't think Leonard is and the different seems to be to me Kawai Leonard the game slows down, you know, one of the reasons I think you will others are slow to recognize the quiet. In fact, the best player in the league is he didn't come in like that, that wasn't the expectation he was that there were times in his career. He wasn't nearly as good as Kevin Durant. For example, those guys came in with huge expectations and lived up to them Durant, LeBron these kind of guys coup, why has built himself to this place and it's almost never happens and the history of sports almost never happens, the way, Kawais, done it. But here he is. He's gotten better and better and better every facet of his game last night, including the passing is just about as good as it can get like in the history of ask ball. How many guys have played defense better than quiet? How many have been fishing on offense as how many have done both in the same high leverage playoff series against the player like the Greek freak and a team like the bucks, both ends of? The floor all the time hurt like this. So for Jaanus to get to where Kawais it's not just about hitting shots. He can do that. He's shown he could do that stepping into threes. It's slowing the game down for him the way it appears to be slowed down for Leonard, and that comes with experience while you can say comes with experience, and I love how you bloviating about Hawaii lended, but the focus is on the Greek freak Jaanus at the Cooper, who you call the best player in the world, forty eight hours ago that's the focus and the reality of the situation is that when I said green three right now, if you're talking about slow if you're talking about, you had them top two, you said, this design it now not even in the top two, but my point is rate freak you know right now. That's right. The grind and LeBron. Right. Yes, LeBron is the guy who they're vying four. So there's one guy 'cause we didn't ask you. Why we didn't ask you why you said it was just that it that will that we didn't ask. Yeah. That's all. I'm trying to say is that you could talk about slowing it down. But in the end what it comes down to if the, the slower you go, max, the more you allowed to run to, to prepare for you defensively. What Nick nurses been able to do in concert with Kawai has been exceptional, and it's changed the entire complexion of this series so much so that the Greek freak is sitting there saying, we ain't going to fold we go. We don't be ticked off. We're not going to like literally. Pick. Maitre. I know where everything when you watch quiet. Looks like everyone else that's him. Go get a gate that kid that, that that's something I'm trying to tell you, you can't do that came the game like the game slows down to you. That comes with experience it get that from a game. How you get from seasons wrought night came to kaitlin any series. And it's very rare for someone to be able to make that kind of adjustment in. But it's not rare. And we've seen I do it when they wall off the paint for him to be looking to attack with the intention of creating shots for teammates. That's really the key max. I think your point is very well taken on the quality of the passing the way he setting up as teammates. But the bottom line, Stephen max for me. He's going to need some more help because that bench whether or not it's perfect or imperfect past those guys are going to have to step up mirror, Tich, canes gave them anything. Only go, there's never been a point during this process where we've been able to say he's going to play on such and such eight and still, I would say we feel like he's be back at some point in this series. But again, it's nothing clearcutting. The warriors announced Thursday that Kevin Durant is unlikely to play at the start of the NBA finals because of his strained, right. Calf Durant is arguably the top prize in free agency this summer. Max, what impact if any do you think this injury will have on katie's? I think it makes them more likely to stay in Golden State for psychological reasons. If this is serious as an an injury, as I suspect knock wood, it's not, but if it is more than just a strained calf if Katie is unable to play in these playoffs from here on out if this is something that's making him think about going to be able to trust my body next year. Then think about it the devil, you know, right? Especially if the devil is in this case, these signature dynastic team of the era located in Silicon Valley and you're the best player on it, but you're also over. Thirty you don't know how many more prime years, you have left and you'd be living leaving such a good thing. I think the injury makes your own kind of basketball athletic mortality, more throws it into starker relief makes you makes anyone a little more insecure about the future and maybe more comfortable where they are. I disagree. I think Kevin Durant is going to leave. I don't know this for sure. Obviously, it's not something that he talks about. And I'm one of those people, I have nothing but respect for that. And I can wait until July. No problem for me. Plus, I'm praying that he goes to New York. And I love to go to State Warriors from top to bottom knowing all of those guys from the ownership on down. You know, their first class standard in National Basketball Association as we be having said all of that. I think the time has come fall of us to show, Kevin Durant, and elevated level of respect. We get on him about him being sensitive and being on Twitter and react and the people stuff like that we ignore the fact that he'll go out and drop forty on you when he's got an attitude. It clearly doesn't derail or compromise level of productivity, and he certainly doesn't get in trouble off the court or anything like that. And when I look at him right now being injured and what have you and we're having questions as to whether or not we he's gonna play I think we're bringing his. Pettit fervent into question you're talking about a two-time champion two time NBA finals in VP, who's guaranteed to make gobs and gobs of money, no matter what. And he's gonna think about passing up on another championship opportunity because he's worried about five six months a year two years from now. I don't see that. I'm gonna show. Kevin Durant much more respect than that. Yes. I thought the move to go to state from Oklahoma City was week. I was on the record stating that, but I think that people have taken that too far that suddenly you're questioning his heart and his skills. No our saying he's so great. He drastically shifted the balance of power. And that's what I didn't like about the move. Meaning he's that damned great. And I think he is. And I think if he can't play he will play 'cause I have respect for them really quickly before we go guys. Are we back here on Monday for a game seven Milwaukee Toronto? Or is this wrapped up Saturday night and Canada game said I don't see it. I don't see it. I hope to write man, Toronto getting making extending the Siri Ryan. You're right. You're right. Right eye on like you. I admit it. I was home prison. Wanna give us a limited and explanation. You would just Janas the best player in the world. As saying that now lost all go home having nice weekend joy the nicely into. Spend I.

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RTFP #935: Week 10 Takeaways

Ross Tucker Football Podcast

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RTFP #935: Week 10 Takeaways

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And of course, I don't think anybody thought the titans would beat the patriots by twenty four points and that Brady would be getting benched with whatever seven minutes to go. And rightfully so. Because the game was over it just was not the patriots day or even what we just witnessed pry, which is the Dallas Cowboys beating the eagles twenty seven to twenty. There's no way I thought they would get that done. But they did. And as a result there now still alive in the NFC east. So just that was one takeaway and if L never ceases to amaze you. You always surprises. I think there are bunch of coaches that came into this week on the hot seat, and for the bucks and the jets man, those hot seats could not be any hotter for those guys. Now. I mean, just absolutely brutal. I don't think I think Todd Bowles probably gets fired. Next couple of days, maybe Dirk cutter as well. Ugly, ugly losses for both of them Dirk cutter announces that he took over the playcalling and they score three points muddy kept that one to myself. If I were Dirk cutter, I mean, it's like he knows he's getting fired and just wants to get fired now. So that he gets, you know, free pay for the next seven weeks six weeks without having actually work. Why would you even say that to the people to your offense was that bad? We got some really impressive young guns in the league Trubisky Mayfield. We already know about golf and some of these guys Mahomes, but there's even some young other young guys that were impressive and a big time gut. Check win for the Redskins. I mean the defense when they got in the red zone. They found a way the offense, which is really really impressed with that. Just like I'm impressed each and every time I wear Saks underwear which is every single day. Let me look right now. I am wearing the quest. Two point. Oh, long leg had it on all day as I drove down to Philadelphia drove back after after I did the pre-game show because it's awesome. Because of the ballpark pouch because it doesn't ride up my legs. Even though I have very large quads, thankfully, it makes my boys feel better than they ever have any underwear ever before look either get it for yourself or tell your signals that this is what you want for the holidays. This is what you want because if you use the promo code Ross, you get five dollars off and free shipping. So go now to Saks underwear Saks underwear dot com. Essay X with two Xs use the promo code Ross at checkout. We also always have that for you on the sponsor page over at Ross, Tucker dot com. Saks underwear dot com. Promo code Ross. Geez. All right. Let's start Ross going in depth with Detroit. And Chicago the bear snapped a ten game losing streak against division opponents with a thirty four twenty two win over the lions Trubisky three hundred and fifty five yards and three touchdowns on fire Brian on fire one of his bench, by the way to. Well, who who'd you start? I had Matt Ryan. Okay. Well, that's mean. You can't you couldn't have expected Trubisky to do that. So that's. You can't make decisions in hindsight. So trubisky. You know, I feel like he's on the same path almost as golf year one bad year too. A lot of good. But a lot of thought is because it scheme, and then maybe next year year three he'll be like, oh, no, no. It's actually him. He's good. We'll see so Trubisky on fire. Cody parkey hit the post four times Bri if he were trying to hit the post. The bears kicker was two extra points field goals. There is no way he'd be able to hit the post four times. I mean, he's trying to hit it between the posts. And he can't do that. So there's no way he actually be able to hit the post four times if you tried that incredible Khalil Mack. I mean, the whole defense is good. They had six sacks Stafford as the lions offensive line didn't play better as I thought they would three more turnovers. Anthony Miller making plays Allen, rob. Robinson making plays and Khalil Mack proving. Once again, what a difference maker. He really is. And for the lions their season is is over at this point. I mean, they're not going to get a playoff berth at this point in. You know, what that's kind of what probably going to happen when you trade a guy like golden Tate the trade deadline. You're not exactly sending a message to your team. Like, hey, fellas. We're going for it. Jeez. Saints one big in Cincinnati fifty one fourteen Alvin Kamara two touchdowns and Ross step. Mark theme. Ninth time out of his twenty five career games that he's played. He's had at least two touchdowns and the ninety six points in the last two weeks for the saints. The most in any two game spanned in saints history. Absolutely unbelievable. I mean, drew Brees is stats are ridiculous. They're machine at one point. I think it was a third quarter. They had twenty six I down. I think or something like that. I mean, everybody in on the act, by the way marketing and probably had his best game of the year, tastes him hill, contributing, and I know that AJ green didn't play but AT green doesn't play defense. The Bengals defense is horrendous. They lost Paul Guenther who by the way, his raiders defense is horrendous. So I don't know that gun Thor's like the difference. But absolutely homerun dis- right now is what they are. I don't even know what to say. I mean, I they have better personnel than to be this bad defensively. Jeez. Baker Mayfield completed his first thirteen pass attempts to the game. He finished with two hundred and sixteen yards three touchdowns and zero interceptions. Twenty eight sixteen win Cleveland over Atlanta, and they would have won by even more. If they didn't have that terrible running running back interception. I think it was it was a running back pass Dontrelle Hilliard. Maybe I don't even have that guy is who through that interception for the Browns other than that. This was a terrific win for Cleveland. Because Mayfield was amazing Nick Chubb had a terrific day. And by the way, the one like concerned about job other than his health. I guess after tornadoes yell was supposed to be his straight line. Speed ninety two yard touchdown. Thank you very much. And this was the best game for the Browns. Defensively in a long time as well. And I like, Freddie kitchens. He had the unique formation know three backs out there. I just like creativity. I like something different. And that's what Cleveland showed typical big game for Matt Ryan, they just couldn't get the points and the red zone they'd have turnovers Muhammed sununu whatever that's a huge setback for the falcons and their goal of trying to get back in this playoff race. Andrew luck lead the colts to a twenty nine twenty six win over the Jaguars. He is now thrown at least three touchdowns in each of his last six games. Ross only to other quarterbacks have done that three touchdowns in six consecutive games. You wanna take stab at who who they were? Peyton Manning and Patrick Mahomes Peyton Manning's correct from two thousand four Patrick Mahomes. Incorrect he correct answer would be who is Tom Brady. Got it. So I knew Mahomes had some streak of throwing three or more. So I didn't know if it was six games or not. So I went for luck was on fire in the first half. I guess the Jags did a pretty nice job of slowing them down the second half. Eric E Bron of all people had three touchdowns on four touches e bronze having one of those years man where just rub him for good luck. Because he's getting all the touchdowns that Russia green. Fumble late was the end of the game. I mean, the Jags of it. They were going to get at least a field goal. But Kenny more give Kenny more credit. He's stripped Rashad Greene, no sacks again, by the way, for luck in the colts going against that Jags front, and by the way, you cannot blame this one on Bortles. This was not Bortles fault. I everybody always wants to pile on Bortles. You can't do it. Jeez. Patrick Mahomes through his thirty first touchdown pass to the season that pass Len Dawson for most in chiefs franchise history. Kansas City over Arizona twenty six fourteen. And the funny thing is Bri Mahomes through for like two hundred forty four yards. So it stopped his streak of three hundred hundred yard plus games. And he threw for two touchdown passes rather than three. And so I did you know Mahomes. Is mahomes. First half of the year, a fluke. You know didn't throw for three hundred yards didn't throw for three touchdown passes. The amount of people that reply to that. And don't realize I'm joking is scary. It really is scary. Take a joke. I mean, nobody would be that. What's scary? Is there are people that would do that for attention? Like, they would tweet that even though they don't really believe it. But for attention and act like the believe it. I just it's a joke. Anyway, he's still played. Well, I'll tell you this though, Arizona defense. Nice work. You know, holding holding the chiefs at twenty six points. Feels like a good thing in Arizona got some positive stuff from Rosen who was getting beat around pretty good there by the chiefs. David Johnson had a nice day. So it's funny. You know, the cardinals were getting seventeen points. So they were able to cover the spread kudos to them. Bills quarterback Matt Barkley passed for two hundred and thirty two yards two touchdowns zero interceptions that say one hundred seventeen point four passer rating in his debut, four Buffalo Bills huge over the jets as you said earlier forty-one ten Brian. I want you to be honest right now. Okay. Okay. You're you're you're a producer. You're not a former player turned analyst to Juno that Matt Barkley was on the bills. I had no idea. Well, and also saved us. I mean, I wasn't paying attention to the bills jets game. So I probably wouldn't have known. But no, I had no clue. Well in fairness they signed him two weeks ago. And I think they announced Friday or Saturday that he would start by the way, he was so much better than Nathan Peterman ever been like just cut Peterman or trade him if somebody would take him. I mean, he was so much better. Shady McCoy had a nice game. Game Zeh Jones as game. It was like Hugo tonight's game. And you get a nice game. And you get a nice game. Dion dockings, left tackle big, man. Touchdown. That's always cool. Josh mccown. I'm surprised I thought he'd play. Well, I thought Barkley would play how mccown played and mccown would play how Barkley played. But it went the other way. I just can't believe that the jets gave up any points. Matt Barkley Todd Bowles is going I guess the owner wouldn't talk to the media afterwards. That's never good sign. He's gone. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers produced five hundred one yards but scored only three points. They became the first team in NFL history with four hundred and fifty plus total yards and three or few fewer points. Redskins sixteen buccaneers three cutter is gone as well. We mentioned the taking over the play calling thing, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick through for a million yards. They just they had fumbles interceptions. Missed field goals when they got in the red zone. Just a comedy of errors for the bucks at that point gut. Check win for the Redskins that we said, I mean, you know, Donovan Smith, you know, getting beat for sacks and tackles for loss when they got down inside the red zone drops Mike Gavin drop could have been a touchdown ugly win offense of lead for the Redskins. But they'll take it. Titans. Beat the patriots thirty four ten. It was the third double digit road loss of the season for New England. So Bri I woke up today. Good at nice Bri, very funny. Nice. I woke up at Penn State because on Saturday. I did the Penn State Wisconsin game, which by the way bri-. Have your depends taking before I have not I've never been there. Well, it was so first of okay. It was easily the best couch football press box food. I've ever had and top five overall press box. We've ever had. It's a big steak. It is it is check my Twitter and Instagram at Ross Tucker NFL, I have videos of it. I have pictures of it. They had sauteed green beans, then they had this delicious cheddar potato casserole, then they had Cajun chicken, then they had pulled pork. They had a coffee station with hot chocolate because it was really cold. Then they had a soda thing where you could get you know, and he soda you want. Basically, you know, like a fountain drinks then on the other side of that they had Caesar salad and like a potato salad. That's not my jam. And then fruit salad they had three different kinds of cookies including these like peanut butter chocolate. Chip marshmallow cookies Knicks to that. They had a brownie trae where they had s'mores. Brownies. I mean, it was just incredible. And I was talking to the food service guy came up to me, Brian. And this is why I'm wondering if it's always like this or not the food service guy came up to me his name was Kenny. And he said, are you all sucker? I said, yes, he's like I listen to your podcast every day. I said Kenny, this is very impressive. This is this isn't a may maybe plus depending on what happens to halftime. And he said he said something like, I might I might have something else. I can bring out at halftime. Like, I feel like bri- he was going for the a, plus he I came out at halftime. Okay. Came up at halftime. And this the one good thing about college football halftime, there's more. There's more time to eat and he had brought out a ham and sausage quiche. So it was ham sausage, egg cheese. So good. And then I snack. I found they had an ice. Cream cooler, and I found the Penn State has the world famous creamery on campus ice cream, and I got three peachy Paterno 's and one strawberry. I proceed in the second half to have four mini ice creams while I was calling the game pry, this is very rare. I think maybe Seattle once Lambeau once maybe maybe the bucks once, but I'm doing it. It had everything I want food drinks everything. Penn State university gets an a plus for their press box food. Wow. Awesome. Plus, so here's how did you did you tackle or manage between hot chocolate and peachy paternal ice cream? Hot chocolate was before the game and in the first half and in the second half. After I discovered the ice cream. I didn't I didn't have hot chocolate. Okay. I separated them. But it was I mean, it was it was special. It was it was one of those days where everything just came together. I mean, it was and by the way, everything they had pre-game. They also had at halftime. So a time, I know only had the ham and sausage quiche. But then I had two more pieces of Cajun chicken on top of the delicious Caesar salad that had egging it tomato. And so that was my halftime meal. I mean, it was just I it makes me sad. Because I just know that they're, you know, it's like a no hitter an a, plus I I don't even give out one a year. So I just I know it's going to be a while till the next one. So it almost makes me sad. So was their game. We were talking about we were talking about New England Tennessee, and I think he finished that. Or did you know? Not even mention any my New England, Tennessee, this was utter domination by the titans, and it was hard to believe Corey Davis, by the way. Sometimes I forget to make my set my labs for fantasy. I did that last week. But I wouldn't want any way to me my best players around by I swapped out. Cor. Input? Corey Davis back in the lineup instead of Kelvin Benjamin. At like twelve fifty eight thank goodness between Corey Davis. And Big Ben and Erz. What hurts just did? I have to be when I have to win this week. Corey Davis had a huge day for the titans and my fantasy team the titans dominated upfront. Both sides the ball. I mean Brady was getting smoked gronk didn't play again they benched Brady late just so he didn't get hurt anymore from all the shots. He was taking. Mario I'm telling you. I'm telling you guys that Morio Morioka and the titans are starting to play. Well, look out for Mario on the titans. This is their third straight impressive game. Josh Gordon had a few drops. But also, it was kind of the featured guy for the patriots which says a lot about where they kind of are at this point. Jeez. LA chargers got their six consecutive win yesterday. Twenty two six over the raiders. It was a slow start though for Philip rivers took almost twenty minutes for him to complete a pass. Yeah. Crazy, right? Some things that stood out from this game. The raiders d actually played pretty well. I mean, they can't score. They moved the ball. They cannot score. It's been like forever since it's an actual touchdown. And I saw play where Derek Carr threw the ball into the dirt on fourth and five now in fairness to him. It was a screen pass. And he didn't wanna take a sack and lose even more yards. And maybe he thought if he threw the ball downfield. It'd be eligible man downfield. I don't know. But I don't think. Yeah. Take that shot somebody and try to get some yards, and it's actually a garbage play calling forth and five to call screen because screen you don't have options screen you have one option. And if they're all over it. You're cooked you're done. It's not even a good place to give your guy a chance. Melvin Gordon by the way is ridiculous that long catch and run. He had an incredible run in short yardage on four th and one he is a phenomenal phenomenal. He's got to be a top two or three back right now. Aaron Jones and Aaron Rodgers connected for two touchdowns and the Packers thirty one twelve win over the Miami Dolphins Aaron carried the load for the Packers. But it wasn't Aaron Rodgers. It was Aaron Jones carrying the load air Aaron Rodgers was actually able to win a game where you kinda adverage didn't even over two hundred yards. I mean, it was good. But they leaned on the run game. Good for them. You know, so often they're going to get they're going to deep safeties. They're getting favorable run. Looks you got to run against that Brock Osweiler took sick. Sex felt like the the dolphins. Actually, moved the ball between the twenties. But that was another thing that I read zone, you know, red zone for the raiders red zone for the bucks red zone for the dolphins. I mean, it's it is a separator. It makes a huge difference wins and losses. More wide. Receivers got hurt for the dolphins. Frank gore is ageless. I mean, he was he was the brightest brightest star for the dolphins in the game. Jeez. Not they fail or forced and recovered a fumble. By Russell Wilson. And Brandin cooks rushed for nine yards score to seal the victory for the LA. Rams thirty six thirty one over the Seahawks and Todd Gurley. Now scored a touchdown in each of the Rams I ten games this season. So here's my question. You this is the deal where they like bring peace out to you guys in a trailer or something, right? Well, yes, they bring box lunches out. And when I say a trailer. It's a temporary press box at the Coliseum. Actually, the sight line is is incredible. They've removed about seven thousand seats. So we're much closer and much lower temporarily this year possibly next year, depending on whether new press box is completely built along with luxury suites, etc. Which is real high up at the Coliseum. So because. During that for USC. Right. I mean, they're doing for USC. Yes. Rams aren't going to be playing there. Well, correct. They're doing it for USC. But obviously for the next two years the rancher still going to be there. But but anyway, so there's no press box the whole whole side of the stadium is under construction. So they actually brought in boxed lunches of roast beef sandwich. And what else was there club sandwiches? So I mean. I mean good by them. And then just hot dogs at halftime. So why don't I get into that since I do the eagles press box food now before I get into the game. So eagles press box food always have the soft pretzels, which is so clutch to Philly, pretzels. They always have a salad. They always have coke zero and bottles of diet Snapple, which I really really appreciate both those options. Coke zero end bottles of diet. Snapple are nice. They always have like a salad now. And then they have a. A fruit salad. They always have hoagies, and then the two entrees usually have two meals it was shepherd's pie and chicken cheese steak. Now, I'm typically a chicken cheese steak guy. But it didn't look. Favorable. I'd say and I saw on Twitter some bad report. So I just went with the hoagies because they had spicy mustard. I like a good hoagie. And so I just had hoagies and the spicy mustard. So that was all I did their food wise what you guys should do not foodwise. But gift wise is good at one eight hundred flowers. So because they've got an exclusive twenty four for twenty four offer. Twenty four multicolored roses for twenty four dollars only a dollar per rose. I tell you guys this all the time. And I'm sure a lot of you still haven't done it. There is nothing better than giving someone a gift just because it blows their mind. No one's expecting it. It's like a punch to the gut in a good way and one hundred flowers. I will give you a stunning bouquet of twenty four multicolored roses for just twenty four dollars. Go to one eight hundred flowers dot com. Click the radio icon and enter code football. That's one eight hundred flowers dot com code football. Hurry because the offer end Friday, and I know one time somebody who's bust my chops saying who gets flowers for their mother-in-law or for their wife's grandma's. Nobody. Does that? I do. I do that. And you guys are thinking, oh, we get set for free. No. I don't. Not at all. I do it because my grandparents aren't alive anymore. So I think it's the right thing to do. And I like doing it. And for my mother-in-law, she watches are girls. All the time. You know, my wife came up Penn State with me, we stayed in an RV and my mother-in-law watched him. So maybe this week. I'll get her flowers. I just wanna make sure she knows that. We don't take it for granted that she watches our daughters all the time. It's very very much. Appreciate it. We don't just expect things like that in life anyway, one eight hundred flowers dot com code football. Hurry, though because the offer ends Friday. I'm telling you, it's what is it twenty four dollars. It's well worth it. How it will make you feel and how it will make the person that gets them field. Well worth twenty four dollars. Oh as for the game, Bryce sorry. Rams seahawks. Interesting day for Dante Fowler. He had to penalties. That's the stained Seahawks drives and allowed them score touchdowns. But he also had a strip sack late which got the game winning. Which was the game winner for the ram. So you saw the pros and cons of valor. Todd Gurley in Jared for both incredible as usual Cooper Cup injuries. Significant now cokes and wood and Robert woods are still good Brandin cooks. They're good and woods can play in the slot. But it makes them so dangerous having three guys. And now they'll only have two I almost wonder forget who their fourth receivers. I almost wonder though, they would call Brandon marshal the saints and Rams were both fight over Brandon Marshall and move Robert woods into the slot. Kind of interesting Rashad penny. And Russell Wilson. Got it going on the ground for this Yorkshire shot penny over one hundred yards rushing. Russell wilson. Almost did. That's Volmer ability for the Rams is that you're able to run on them. And they did. But. Still wasn't enough. Thirty five thirty one. Jeeze thirty six thirty one. Oh, was it. Okay. Dallas philadelphia. Let's talk about that one Zeke hundred and fifty yards for the fifth time in his career. Cowboys who was a twenty-seven was final twenty seven twenty seven twenty twenty seven twenty seven twenty gigantic win for the Cowboys. I really felt like if they lost. There was a chance that Jason Garrett would lose his job this week. But with his back against the wall. His team didn't play like the bucks and the jets did they came out and played really good football. I mean Dak missed some throws early. But he made some plays later Zeke and the old line. We're incredible. The bottom line is the eagles defense ally. Michael Bennett made a couple of plays. But the eagles defensive line wasn't nearly as dominant as they needed to be. They just weren't not against that revamped. Oh line for the Cowboys. You know, Zeke Ren over them Zeke random, oh, we got the top bring run defense part of the reason why eagles run defense is. So good is because people knew they could throw it on them. So they didn't run it that much result. Douglas was not good. I mean, Darwin Darby went down in fairness to eagles. They were so shorthanded corner. It was just too much for them to overcome late in the game. They had their chances. But, you know, Corey climent probably shoulda cut it back on the screen where Vanda rash makes the play, you know, Zakar tes then they throw the ball to a guy that short of the sticks on fourth down. You just can't do that. And at the end of the game. They throw the ball to a guy in the middle of field. You can't do that. It's like we're trying to get Erz stats rather than doing the things that you need to do to win the game. So huge win for the Cowboys. They deserve. I mean that was no fluke whatsoever. The Cowboys deserve the win. And now the eagles are in major trouble. Because that's a huge swing that. The eagles have now lost their third straight home game. But also that the eagles lost a division game. And they lost a game. Everybody thought they'd win the same day. The Redskins won a game. Most people thought they'd lose. That's a huge huge swing in the NFC east, and that'll do it for a monster. Monstrous Monday edition of the Ross Tucker football podcast except. Jio? Except for Dr Chow, correct? Correct. The medical minute. We gotta hear what he says about Cooper Cup. We gotta hear what he says about a lot different guys. It is Dr Chow medical minute time. This is Dr David Chow with the medical minute wide receiver injuries headline week ten here. The biggest one being Cooper Cup of the Rams by video. It's very clear to me that he tore his left knee ACL. Unfortunately, he won't come back from this injury in week six he was suffered a horse collar tackle with a great to MC L miss two weeks and returned in week nine. This current injury has nothing to do with his previous MC L. It is a completely different injury to his ACL in expect surgery in the end of his season. Otherwise receivers to get injured including a pair of dolphins. 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02/13: Hunt is In, Brown Wants Out, Flacco the Bronco (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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02/13: Hunt is In, Brown Wants Out, Flacco the Bronco (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from CBS sports. Email us at fantasy football CBS. I dot com. Your friends don't play fantasy LL won a bunch of yours. Here. So. You were not expected to have a breaking news podcast on berry thirteen for here. We are. I guess he tomorrow, Dave Eanet Valentine's Day, but. Thanks, adam. All right, sorry. If that was an awkward. Yeah. Well, I could be quarterback for the Broncos. They'll take anybody. These days rather do that? Joe? Flacco is getting traded to the Broncos. According to reports that are just breaking also Kareem hunts on Cleveland Tonio Brown requested a trade. So we're going to get through all of that. Here's my first fantasy question for you. Who would you rather have an dynasty league Kareem hunt or Nick Chubb, Jeb think the guy that's not going to get suspended over the guy who is going to be? Sees it all I sit dynasty lose. Who do you like long-term their job job chopped up? Okay. What the hell why why Cleveland why? Because they're in the business of trying to win football games. And this is a player that the general manager's been very familiar with for a long time who was available and can play football at a pretty high level. We've seen that twenty six touchdowns and twenty eight career games fifteen games of the one hundred total yards. Now, we can definitely make the argument that that was because of the offense he was in against city. But even if he goes into a part time role in Cleveland, that's still a hell of a player to have a part time role. There's the obvious PR hit. And it's it's it should last a lot longer than it will last. Martha's on this are John Dorsey drafted agreement. He believes the cream deserves a second chance. He's got a lot of goodwill in Cleveland right now because he has Baker Mayfield and things are moving the right direction. He took this PR hit green hunts gonna sit out the first half of the year. He will make some place for them in the second half. And then he will turn into a third round pick before twenty twenty. Meaning they trade him or they just they let him go. Well, they have is restricted rights. Right. So one way by twenty twenty they could keep them for two years at a pretty cheap rate. But this has the bump Nick Chubb down. Right. It bumps Nick shutdown down. Just I was considering him in the first round. I would still not let him fall out of the second round. I am very hopeful. He is now gonna fall third round. And I'm going to be dancing industry. There's not a chance if you're in a draft with me the to get new job in the third round at this. Honestly, it moved them behind some wide receivers for me. But I'm not I'm not confident enough in some of the other running backs. That are ranked behind Chubb to put him ahead. We don't know what's going to be out for then. Half the seas anymore. It could be the whole year. Let's do it based on a guest. Let's say it's half the season. Let's say, you know, at some point cream hunts going to be part of this backfield. I'm not so sure he's going to dominate it. Like, he didn't Kansas City. So we'll we won't. I don't think there's any chance. He does. Oh, my bump do Johnson out of playing time rise cream hunts a hell of a pass catcher. Well, he can be. Yeah. They didn't quite use him that way all the time. He caught twenty six passes at eleven games his rookie season. He caught fifty three in sixteen games. Nick Chubb, wasn't really that involved in the passing game. But he did have a stretch of three straight games with three catches for thirty three to forty four yards and two touchdown catches in those three games. So he showed that he can do that, by the way. So Nick shop had he had two touchdown catches seventeen running backs three or more touchdowns in two thousand eighteen. That's just something you want to consider when you're thinking about where rank these guys went to draft these guys are they going to get three or more. Touchdown catches seventeen. Did are they going to have zero? Touchdown catches. You know, that's going to put them behind a lot of players that's kind of a side note. But one thing with Jeb though, to keep in mind, cause I've looked at a lot of the Brown stuff. Just look. At the Freddie kitchens portion of the Brown season and his sixteen game face for receptions, during the Freddie kitchens portion of the season forty two targets thirty six catches two hundred seventy eight yards and four touchdowns in the air. Four would be would be very nice and also his sixteen game base assistant game pace in the ten games. After the Carlos high trade you talking about certainly top five running back. He would have had thirteen hundred rushing yards and ten rushing touchdowns. Second most that would've been the second most Russian guards in the NFL behind Zekiye Elliott. So you're talking close to elite territory, they're not necessarily though. All right. So so let's compare to some other guys that are going in that range. Philp Lindsey job. Yeah. Okay. Are we doing this PR on? Let's do I guess well, there's two different ranges here. Because who who was joining him? Melvin gordon. I'll tell you Melvyn Melvin okay. How about Sony Michelle non jogger? I need better names here. I think Alvin cooks Goodwin. Okay. And I think we'll take Aaron Jones job. So you don't think Kareem hunt comes back in week nine and all of a sudden Lance the world on fire inputs, Nick Chubb on the bench. No, he doesn't have to put him on the bench. But he he gets Nick chubs carries go from eighteen per game to fourteen per game. Any might lose a goal line carrier there, but hunt will take much more on the passing situations when he comes back. It's going to be Chubb as the main back hunt is the secondary back Duke Johnson as the guy you wish you'd in spend a late round pick on any other angle you wanna cover here does good for bigger Mayfield. By the way. This is just another talented player in the offense. And of course, this is all dependent on him being suspended for only half the air and not the whole year. There's still a chance that the NFL could come down quite hard on Kareem. Okay. How about it? Tonio Brown Antonio Brown requesting a trade. So there's that Dave you did a Twitter fill in the blank was like where do you wanna see Tony Brown go where where would you be happy? If you're going to spend a first round pick on Brown, where do you want him to go and tons? The results are all over the map a lot of people don't want to take them in the first round, no matter where he goes some people only take him if he's with the Steelers or the patriots and some people will take him no matter where he goes. I would say 'cause there was a report that came out that said they will not trade him to the AFC north, and they will not trade him to the patriots. So limiting the patriots. I would say the couple of places that come to mind, Indianapolis. Is he a first round pick though? I would say he's very I mean, I I don't have them in the first round pick right now if he's in Pittsburgh, he's inverse rounder for you. Right. He's not my number one receiver like he is yours. San Francisco is a place where he could go get one hundred eighty targets again with a seemingly good quarterback. I don't want him to go there because I want to have Jimmy Garoppolo arguments with you heath a fee tire offseason. Like, I I really look forward to that. And we won't be able to have those arguments browse there because everybody's gonna love Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah. So against that. But in all honesty fantasy that would be that would be great any place. It would be bad for him. That's realistic. Or is. He is good Oakland. I think Oakland wouldn't be great. But I don't think it'd be I think he'd get a ton of targets in Oakland. I don't know if he's going to get one hundred seventy targets in Indianapolis or Green Bay or San Francisco. Oh, Green Bay would be San Francisco. It would for sure Green Bay would be good or bad be bad. I don't think it'd be good. I don't think it would be first round good. Yeah. I don't know if there's a spot other than the patriots. That would be first round good. But ain't going there as of now and you'll see get over it bell. Check could just drop pick thirty two overall in. Mike Tomlin's lap and say, what do you think of this Mike Seattle would be bed? What would be better throw them all like four hundred times? Let's recap into Brown recently in the last five seasons. He's been the number one wide receiver in PR four times. And the other time was last year. He was number three and he was second points per game. In non PR has been top three five straight years. Three times. He's been number twice. He's been number one and two of the three years. He wasn't number one. He was actually number one points per game. Antonio Brown has been on just an unbelievable run hundred one or more catches in six straight seasons. Twelve eighty four yards or more eight or more touchdowns, and that's like low for him thirteen hundred yards eight touchdowns as low four seasons out of his last six with one thousand four hundred ninety nine or more receiving yards. But is he declining twelve point five yards per catch? Last year was low that I will remind you it was twelve point one in two thousand sixteen and then two thousand seventeen was incredibly fifteen point two yards per catch. He was having basically his best season. His catch rate on the other hand sixty two percent, two straight seasons. That's pretty low for an Tony. Brown. It was sixty eight point eight percent or better three prior years. And last year sixty two percent, basically two years in a row sixty two percent. So that's the question. Gotta ask is he on the decline. He he might be. And that's something to keep my with him. And just Pittsburgh was a great situation for him. You know, we had a great report with Ben Rothlisberger. Ben Rothlisberger is even a top twelve quarterback next year without in Tokyo Brown. Pending. What else they do at the position? No, the difficult part is through the ball so much over the last two years. I mean, six hundred forty attempts seems very reasonable. If he throws that many times in just as juju James, Washington, James Connor. He's still probably a top twelve quarterback for me. But certainly not like top-five. No right now, I've got him third. So I have to drop them a little all right? Four point passing. Touchdown league. Rank the AFC north quarterbacks. If Brown is not on the Steelers, and they don't replace them. And they draft a wide receiver in the first round. Which usually doesn't mean all that much in a rookie year. I would be surprised if they would do that. They're good at finding receivers later on draft day. But I think it would be Baker been Lamar Dolton, which is how I haven't. Now. Anyway, just the gap between then and Lamar which shrink, and there would be a bigger gap between Baker and Ben a Browns quarterback the number one quarterback in the AFC north and fence. Okay. Let's go to our next news item. Joe flacco is reportedly being traded to the Denver Broncos. Here's my prediction. This is John Elway's last year as in the front office. He will be fired at the end of the two thousand firing who's firing. John Elway the Broncos. I don't know. They've got they've got a lot of ownership issues right now that they might not want to try and yet he's gone. This is terrible decision. Upside down he one failed quarterback after another from a former quarterback. It's it's terrible. They're going to be awful goodbye. That's that's how I'm feeling right now. I feel similarly this is not good for anyone is it. No, it's. It's a mess. They're going to draft another quarterback. So I think you have to Joe flacco data's elite but more as like stopgap elite, but or just view him as exactly the same guy that lecture. Now, that's interesting that you would say that. Guys last year is heavy you compared the two. Yes. Case keenum has been better than Joe flacco since case keenum joined the NFL. He has ever more yards per tempt his adjusted yards per temps or a half yard higher. His same. Touchdown rate is a better interception rate. He is a better quarterback rating. Joe flacco has one year off with more than four thousand passing yards. They're giving up something to get Joe flacco to that's this isn't a free agent side. Right. Even if it's a seventh round pick, Adam it's ridiculous. And it's. Flaco won't even start more than nine games. They're going to be bad offensively the poor defensive got so much talent. It's gonna go to waste and. Yeah, this does not make me want to draft Cortlandt Sutton. It makes me cold on day, Sean Hamilton, it makes me nervous on Philip Lindsay. And we haven't even gotten to who's calling the place for Denver. Well, let me just talk about wide receivers under Joe flacco recently there have been some success stories nothing huge last year. John Brown in flat goes nine games. John Brown was on pace for one thousand sixty eight yards. I don't think he was going to get there because it was just getting worse and worse for him. He got off to a hot start four of his last five games with flacco were terrible. But he was on pace for one thousand sixty eight yards. Maybe he would have gotten there. Mike Wallace in two thousand sixteen had a thousand yards just over a thousand yards. Steve Smith at one thousand sixty five yards in two thousand fourteen and two thousand fifteen he was really crushing it. He had six hundred seventy yards it only seven games. So Smith was really an example of a number one receiver who did very well with Joe flacco Torrey Smith in two thousand thirteen had eleven hundred yards actually one thousand one hundred twenty eight just the promise touchdowns aren't there? I mean to be fair flacco is probably throughout his career. He really has not been surrounded by great talent. Maybe the group of receiver. That he'll have next year with Denver will be better than any groupies had with Baltimore. So I don't know. Does it does it crush every wide receiver there is there anyone it doesn't it doesn't? It's not worse than case keenum, particularly I mean a little bit. But it's not like any such thing as a significant downgrade from case keenum. So I don't think it I'm not gonna move them in my rankings likely from where I had them with case game. Where'd you have Coralline sudden? Was the top thirty receiver for, you know, top forty in the I think he was thirty to forty range. I had them write item at thirty ninth. I'm gonna keep them. They're not PBR at Emmanuel Sanders had eight hundred sixty eight yards four touchdowns in twelve games that he tore his achilles. So that's we're not really talking about is. He you think he will be on the Broncos Sanders. Yeah. Not sure. Yeah. It's up there. He is. He is a potential cap casualty. He would have been that way. Even if he didn't get hurt. Well, they're your big big headlines. Busy week in the NFL. Hey, if you need more NFL coverage make sure you check out the pick six podcasts. We'll Brinson does a great job. And they do five shows a week even during the offseason. So hardcore football fans, you're going to love the pick six podcast check it out. Here is a cool stat. I never knew about somehow. I look at the red zone carries passes targets page on pro football reference a lot and I never noticed this column because some dumb you can look at the percentage of total team. Rush attempts inside the opponent's five yard line for a player. In other words, how many carries inside the five yard line did Nick Chubb get out of the? Out of the entirety of the Browns. Rush attempts inside the five five yard line. It was actually like pretty low for Nick Chubb split some time with with Carlo side. Obviously, I think it was like thirty thirty three point three percent. So who led in this category? David Johnson had one hundred percent of his team's carries. Inside the five yard line. According to ride Zona did something right with David Johnson. After all. But I didn't think that was true though, wasn't there that game show. You said we're Edmunds had two touchdowns were they inside the five. Don't know could have been from the seven yard line. Look it up. Look it up. That does not seem correct. I think you just found a cool news debt. That's not right. It's possible. That game would be a week thirteen. So you can look into that. Chris Carson eighty six point seven percent saquon Barkley eighty percent now I will say even if these stats are not right. And I suspect that some of this red zone. Data is not right. I think it's close Peyton barber Joe mixon seventy five percent Todd Gurley. Seventy two percent. Sure. It was much more than that before the final few games. Leonard fournette seventy one point four percent, Jordan Howard, sixty eight point eight percent Garrett blunt sixty eight point eight percent among the leaders. But I think Chris executive, oh, really what did he got? Joyce Edman had two carries from the six yard line to carries from the eight yard line. But I don't see any. Carries inside the five. That's cool. All right. I'm happy this great new stat. Love it. Adam. Do you have any surprisingly low percentages? Derek fifty six point five percent say that again Derrick Henry fifty six point five percent. And I'm sure that percentage would be much higher in the last four games of the year. Christian McCaffrey fifty seven point one percent. I'm sure that factors Cam Newton. Let's see what else Kenyan Drake and Frank or both at fifty percent. Aaron Jones was at forty four point four percent. Here's one Philip Lindsey forty two point nine percent. And if I had time, you know, like we can do this later we can dig into the game LA and you can see every red zone rushing play for Philip Lindsay. And you can see maybe later in the year. He started getting more close to the goal line. Sony. Michelle only forty one point four percent. Alvin Kamara thirty nine point four percent. So yeah, I think there's there's something there. I didn't really make a segment out of it. But it's a cool tool for Anisi football people out there. Go to pro football. I do Google search pro football reference red zone stats you can do passing receiving in rushing and rushing his broken down by inside the twenty inside the ten and inside the five and with it. Have fun with heats AFC projections. We will get to some of those right after this Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks ETF's options and cryptos all commission free. And while other brokerages charge up to ten dollars for every trade, Robin, Hood dozen charge any commission fees, so you can trade stocks and keep all of your profits. Plus there is no account minimum deposit needed to get started. So you can start investing at any level. The simple intuitive design of robinhood makes investing easy for newcomers and experts alike view, easy to understand charts and market data and place it trade and just four taps on your smartphone. 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Owning we share stories talk about our families and occasionally go from off the bench off the rails subscribe, anywhere podcast or found its nanna cakes. Let's start with Baker Mayfield. So now, we know he's your your highest ranked quarterback in the AFC north. What are you projecting Baker Mayfield for? He's is not currently my highest ranked recommends because I've not adjusted Rothlisberger without in Tokyo Brown. But I do have him projected for forty two hundred seventy nine passing yards. Thirty one touchdowns fourteen interceptions. One hundred seventy seven yards on the ground and a rushing touchdown. That's good for Huby nine in standard. CBS scoring league's just ahead of guys. Like Carson Wentz deck Prescott. Tom Brady just behind Matt Ryan Cam Newton. Jameis winston. And that's a sixteen game projection for him. I don't actually have him ranked there, but that's the projection. Okay. So for Baker Mayfield four thousand two hundred seventy nine yards thirty one touchdowns fourteen interceptions. Dave seem cool. Dare I say that you are predicting touchdown regression for Baker Mayfield. Because last year. In his thirteen starts. He had twenty seven passing touchdowns little more than two per game. And sounds like you're giving them a little less than two per game. That would be if he played sixteen games just as as little less than two as possible. Yeah. That's look at what his touchdown rate. Was it was five point six percent, which is very very good for quarterback. And it's possible that he could repeat that. But I do have a little bit lower than five point six percent. I've got him somewhere between five and five point five. So Mayfield one thing that's out to me. Why think week seventeen was so encouraging? He had six games last year. He started thirteen games. He had six games with twenty one or more fantasy points in six point per passing. Touchdown leagues. If you don't play in that format. Twenty-one fantasy points is a great. But it won't kill you. At this point. You probably wanna be like twenty three or more just guess but six games Twenty-one more fantasy points. Four of those six opponents were the three worst. I guess the three best ups and fantasy Bengals twice falcons books. Another one of those games against the chiefs. They were tenth worst against quarterbacks. So I guess you could say five of his six best games came against. Easy competition. Four of six best games came against the easiest competition. But then there was week seventeen. And he had the third best game all year against the ravens of any quarterback only Andy Dalton and Cam Newton scored more fantasy points did throw three interceptions. But he had a big game against the ravens week seventeen. You also only completed fifty five percent of his passes in that game. So it wasn't a great game by any means. It was a loss puns turnovers. He's not he's not a finished product. I'm projecting him as a top fantasy quarterback based on Cleveland making a move additionally on offense to help their passing him. And it doesn't seem like Duke Johnson's absence really be a huge issue. He wasn't all that involve last year. Just forty seven catches four hundred twenty nine yards three receiving touchdowns. If even if he's not he might not be might be on the team. I'm not one hundred percent convinced that Kareem hunt would be better for Baker Mayfield. 'cause I could see them saying, hey, we got two of the best running backs in football. Let's run the hell out of the ball. They could they absolutely could. They they might do that in the scenario that cream hunt gets a minimal suspension and comes back looking great and plays. Like he did when he was against city. I do think that Baker was so officiant last year. Like I have him as a top ten quarterback. And he has the second fewest facets of anybody projected of anybody that I have a top ten. He's good. We like him. He's got a bright future. All right running back, James Connor and the mar- Miller. So you're you gave me these James Connor projections. Earlier in the week as the number five running back in non PR number seven PR one thousand one hundred eighty five rushing yards five hundred seventy six receiving yards monster year thirteen touchdowns. Anything changed without Antonio Brown. You know, I think it's possible. If Antonio Brown's not replaced by another good wide receiver that you could see his yards per carry go down just a little bit. If teams are able to stack the box a little bit more against them four point five where I've got projected four right now, he may be closer to four the rush. But you also may see targets go up a little bit as well. If we don't see another adequate replacement for Brown. So he could be closer to one hundred targets instead of the eighty five. I haven't projected for now. Anybody have any doubts about James Connor being a top seven running back. The track record of running backs in Pittsburgh is very strong the potential that Connor the forget about potential what he showed last year was that. He was he's capable of being just an amazing staff producer for fantasy. He's not living on belt, but he can still move the chains. Push piles score touchdowns. And the fact that now the Steelers have to replace a hundred seventy targets in their offense. It's one hundred seventy pass plays or just plays in general that have to go somewhere else this helps James copper, and he's not Levy Levy on bell. But he did have four point five yards per carry nine yards per reception on a pretty decent volume considering only played thirteen games. How many targets and catches? You have less your heath. You have seventy-one targets fifty five receptors room for that to go up. Well, yes, it was only thirteen games. Oh, yeah. There's real chance for that to go up. Do you think that they say, oh, hey, Jalen, Samuels, pretty good? We need to get him involved. They might that's a possibility. I think we would see that. We would hear about applying drank camping. We'd probably see it in one preseason game next projection Lamar Miller, and he he's Lamar Miller with you know, was his heart projection to make. A little bit because I ki- was really good last year. And I've got him basically projected like Lamar Miller, which is not bad. He's a great fallback option as your number two running back, historically, he falls farther than he should in drafts. And then he bores his way to a top twenty four running back finish. He was really good last year. He was he he was more efficient last year than he had been the previous couple years in Houston. He had a great six week. Maybe seven weeks stretch starting at Jacksonville in week seven ending against the colts in week fourteen. So it, you know, he he kinda he could've carried you. In those games. Overall nine hundred seventy three rushing yards. One hundred sixty three receiving yards in fourteen games. I mean, the real problem for him in terms of making the next step is that he's not scored more than six touchdowns scored exactly six touchdowns every year. He's been in Houston. Total. He's a he is a it's interesting low in number two fantasy running back regardless of format who could be replaced. Oh, you know, what I wanna see? Thirty five point seven percent of his team's carries inside the five yard line. The Shawn Watson also had thirty five point seven percent. Alfred blue had twenty eight point six percent. See I like this that I like it. I'm doing the math try to make sure that equals under percents. But he also could be someone else there. Yes. We have Deontay foreman had oh zero percent. No. I think that's it. I think it's just those three thirty six percent thirty six percent. Twenty eight percent. Basically is that work? Yeah. Well, we'll go ahead and say, yes, they could save over six million in cap space. If they wanna let them go we'll see we'll see how much the coaches like him forty if they agree that he was a good running back last year. Four point six yards per carry. Why PC for life? How about wide receiver Jarvis Landry and Keenan Allen? Let's talk about them. So now Landry a lot lot of Brown stuff lately. Jarvis landry. You haven't projected as a number three wide receiver only sixty nine catches is your projection for Jarvis Landry. And actually don't even remember what he what his final numbers were last year. So let's go ahead and look that up. But yeah, talk about your projection for Landry. Well, again, I talked about how I done a lot of stuff. Look the Browns after Freddie kitchens arrived, and what happened was the ball got spread around. And Jarvis Landry. Did not see anywhere close to the same number of targets. Wants kitchens. Was there basically every Jing six targets for week is kicked his catch rate went down. It was just really bad for his value. I don't know for sure that we're going to see that again. But he saw about twenty percent of the teams targets after that Pittsburgh game, which is way down for his career. He's only had one year where he really was used heavily in the red zone. So I I think he's probably falls short of thousand yards and finish somewhere in that five to six touchdown range. So let's just take those games. Those eight games after the Pittsburgh game and his sixteen game pace would have been sixty four catches on one hundred ten targets. You haven't for sixty nine catches. He had he would have had eight hundred ninety six yards and four touchdowns and you have him for eight eighty eight and five so. Yeah. That makes sense that makes sense as projection for Landry. And yeah, he was a guy that I was concerned about because I thought that for sure one of Josh Gordon. Jarvis Landry would end up being a bust. I did not think they'd be able to sustain both. And they both were bus even though. Jarvis Landry got traded hypothetical question. Let's live in a world for a second. We're Antonio Brown becomes a Cleveland Brown. What does that do to Jarvis Landry? Does it open them up to be in single coverage? All the time in an easy. Short area target for Baker Mayfield. And he has a chance to just volume his way up closer two thousand yards. Like, he did this passion. Just not sure Baker Mayfield is looking for that type of throw like Ryan how it was. My other argument against Landry was that it just felt like Miami was such a perfect situation for him. He was the best receiver. He had a quarterback other than Jay Cutler. He had a quarterback who struggled to throw the ball downfield. But he had his best numbers with color. He had his touch touchdown. Yeah. I just thought he wasn't the kind of guy who was gonna go to a new place as a number one wide receiver and really be a number one receiver. Just didn't feel that way to me. I don't think he's you know, he's fine. He's not a he's not like a great player. He's fine. But can you be a PR STA? Not if he's catching sixty nine passes, which is what he has them for. Keenan Allen you have as a top ten wide receiver, but toward the bottom tenth and nine PR, ninth and PR, what are you projecting? Keating Allen hundred two catches twelve hundred sixty three yards and six touchdowns. I I'd love to see him score. More touchdowns. I'm afraid with Mike Williams and hunter Henry back in the way through all the running backs last year and the way like the hand off to Melvin Gordon in the red zone. It's going to be difficult for him to be a big touchdown guy. But it's going to be difficult for defense's to clamp down on him. Once they're back at full strength offense. Now, they they basically were for this much of this past season. But not until Mike Williams got on the radar and that wasn't until few weeks into the year and on our coming back is going to change things even more. I think he can have more than six touchdowns. I would take the over on kina now having he has had seven plus more than six touchdowns once in his career was his rookie year. Yeah. And he only had fifteen red zone targets last year. Only seven targets inside the ten yard line. That's not very good. Go back two thousand seventeen I know in two thousand seventeen Philip rivers. Threw the ball a ton in the red zone. And Keenan Allen actually had the second most red zone targets and the second most targets inside the ten yard line. And he caught six touchdowns both years. So the targets being close to the end zone. Didn't matter for Keenan Allen six touchdowns in two thousand seventeen and sixteen games. Two thousand two thousand eighteen sixteen games. Six touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. And then I guess it transitions into your hunter Henry projection. So we go to that's only tight we're gonna talk about today. But you project him for six touchdowns you've talked about that you've talked about how Henry's addition could affect the running backs and their receptions, and obviously could affect Keenan out, and I tried to be a little bit cautious with my honor end reproduction. I think he does have upside beyond this. But I've got him for fifty catches six hundred forty four yards and six touchdowns who is basically a low in low in but mid range number one tight end. What do you think? Dave fifty catches six hundred forty four yards. Six touchdowns from hunter Henry that's not so good. That's not somebody that people should be reaching for drafts. No that that seems a little low. And I wonder if part of that projection is kinda rooted in what you remember from hunter Henry and twenty seventeen which is to say that there were several games where he was either barely targeted or not targeted at all. And Anthony Lynn responded to that at the time. I sing. Well, it's just the way that those games went. But boy, we really should have get under Henry more involved. And then you you just you're reminded of what we just talked about three minutes ago with so many weapons in the offense. There's no reason to pummel Henry with targets almost the defense dictates it. So I hate to say that he's not going to be a weekend. And we got fantasy starter. He will probably be drafted by somebody in every league to be that guy if you drop them, hopefully, you're getting them at a decent rate. And you're not. Taking him too soon. But I think what I took him in our in our most recent draft before that I got him as the eighth tight end off the board. I'm perfectly fine with their fifty six forty four and six is pretty close to the end, usually well, but what round. Eight seven eight. Yeah. That feels pretty reasonable because there obviously is upside. Right. But it's basically also what Trey Burton gave you last year. Just a few more yards. His upside is no project projection. Yeah. I have him in late round six, but this is without any rookies without free agency taking place, so he'll fall into around seven. I think and I think that's I guess, that's okay. That's going to be the spot where people start speculating a little bit more on titan. What is it? Good yards for catch for tight end because he's at thirteen yards per catch. I feel like that's pretty good. That's that's very awesome. That's what Travis Kelsey had exactly Lester that's in his career thirteen thirteen point three is a rookie twelve point nine two thousand seventeen. How about some news notes around the NFL, and then we'll finish it off with your emails kinda Murray is going to play football the as are not one hundred percent convinced because of gonna play football. It seems as yet sucks Detroit doesn't wanna do hard knocks. They were like, I think Oakland great for her knocks those kind funny, and they're also opened a drafting a quarterback at number eight overall, and they also want up graded tight end. They got a lot of things to do in that Patricia's last year before he and John Elway tee up to be analysts son ESPN in two thousand twenty Tricia will be right back with the patriots. Maybe there's no way he's going to be an analyst also Bill Belichick and Tom Brady's last year to say, you know, oh my gosh. A win the Super Bowl. They set the record break the Steelers record and they head off into the sunset. Go very twenty twenty very different here. Houston released Maria's Thomas. Your thoughts. Probably the right thing for them to do. It's it's never good practice. To overpay old injured wide receivers. Kiki the're will fuller next year who do you take first bowler? Yeah. I think it's full or I think there's a decent chance that cuties better and PBR he might be better in PR because he plays more games that that I think that's the only way that he is better than willful or next year, Mississippi State defensive tackle. Jeffrey, Simmons reportedly tours ACL. This is a guy who had top twenty pick potential, and that's a good defensive tackle off the board. Fascinating was Ross. Arizona says they will not select Cuyler Marie with the number one. Pick you bind it. Yes. I don't think you take a guys five foot nine number one overall. What about you? I tend to agree with you. But I do know that cliff Kingsbury loves him. Everybody's seen the video of him saying if I had the chance to pick this guy. I I would whatever he said. Yep. Something like that where he was talking. Kyla mary? Yeah. I think just because air zone is not going to come number one overall doesn't mean he's not going number one overall to right. They trade. But I don't know. Maybe they so who needs a who needs the number one pick the New York football giants. Yeah. I'm not gonna take to shore Denver's not gonna take him because he's too short like the track record of both of those franchises track. Record of John Elway look at all the quarterback the shortest quarterback. He's his and he's six one. I here's what it's dumb. But I know I know here's what happens here's Adams mock draft the cardinals trade. Josh allen. Got Josh Allen. Josh rosen. Okay. And the number one pick. Wow. To the Oakland Raiders. For the for both of the raiders first round picks this year, they have to write they have three for all three of their first round picks. And at four overall they select. They select Carter Murray. Yes. That might be the worst predictions ever made. That's break that down the raiders quarterback. Josh rosen. And they get the number one pick which could be Joey Nick Bosa. They've already agreed to pay your car twenty million dollars. Yeah. Oakland overland is committed to Derek Carr. They'll develop covari. Oh my gosh. Sorry. They'll develop Josh Rosen. They're getting caliber cartels are getting very at four. All right. I think that's willing to take a big chance at quarterback based on data metrics that say that you don't have to have height as part of the quarterback equation. And they move up in the draft to do it. Jacksonville. Jacksonville has the third pick right or no. They have a mock that has a trade. They have the seventy this. Yes. Six thought they were I could you know, everybody's pinning Nick foles Jacksonville. And maybe it'll end up that way for a year or two, but I could see them making that they could say, well, you know. Stat X Y Z says Kyla Marie is going to be dominant and they wanna sell tickets, and they want a totally unique type of quarterback playmaker. They go up and they get Kyla Murray. Yeah. I think it'll be interesting is you know, after the college football season ended. It didn't seem like it was a great quarterback drafts. Nobody really deserving of a top ten pick necessarily. And then once the evaluations come in. The combine comes in. Everybody goes quarterback crazy Murray Haskins lock. I mean, they could all be top fifteen picks. Just these guys pushed up so much Jaguars the seventh pick right now. Right behind the giants who are the only team in the top six that have an obvious need for a quarterback. Yeah. Because it's AirAsia San Francisco jets raiders books. That's also pretty unique thing about of those teams really needing a quarterback. So expect a lot of traits. Few more notes ole miss wide receiver decay Metcalf. Holy cow. Did you guys see the the pig? He's the biggest he's got to be the most buff wide receiver in NFL history. Josten? Yes. Much more than David. He makes David Boston looked like David. North attleboro. He's going to make them. Look like, David, Richard. Have gone with a smaller Massachusetts city oaken could still play in the bay area this year. The NFL is reportedly opening the season with bears Packers to celebrate the one hundred aniversary of the league instead of patriots game. So they won the Super Bowl different patriots are going to play the disrespect card, and then that means that they're gonna play the underdog card. Yeah. And then that means they're going to start chanting were still here and. You know? Yeah. I guess we just keep underestimating New England and thanksgiving games will be Miami at Dallas and Chicago at Detroit and third one. Right. Yeah. Bassoon Bing, and I went back and watch the lien lead highlight yesterday. It is so funny. The guy that broadcasts let no. It is. So what is the funniest play football history? All right. How about some emails fantasy football at CBS dot com. The allred. I Email I don't even have a name give me a name Dolores from Dolores. Mova? I says, hey, Navarro, Michael, Jerry, and Ronnie. Those are players who played for the forty Niners and raiders both. Did you cheat? Or did you know that they are right? Yes. As well. Right. Half PBR, which you keep Mike Evans or Nick chop. I already have Zeke and saquon. Evans Chubb from Julian one quarterback league startup dynasty draft. When should you? Take your first quarterback. Dynasty. I'm probably still waiting. I think you can wait I used to I used to tighten up on that though in a dynasty league. You wanna make sure that you've got a great quarterback for years to come. But there are a lot of great quarterbacks with lots of long potential. You could probably wait and get two of them. I'm I might be tempted to take my homes at the end of the second. I would expect he's only much earlier that. Next question is from on in the UK. Hey, Peter, Paul and Steven and John. Peter, Paul, Stephen and John. I have two quarterback dynasty league. I have Bortles Watson flacco and Mullins. Would you recommend trying to trade draft picks? He's got Watson. And crap. Would you recommend trying to trade draft picks for a better quarterback? Hey, he won the championship, by the way. He won the championship with those quarterbacks with Mullins came through form. Yeah. Toward the end of last season. Good for him. Yeah. Of course. Alternative is suspend one of the draft picks that you were going to trade on one of the quarterbacks that are coming out this year. It could work out where one of. Murray Haskins lock Jones is there when you're up in round two. I wouldn't trade a first round pick for one for a quarterback. But if it's the last big in the first round though because that's probably what he's got. That's true. That's that's depends on the quarterback. You're getting you're gonna this is the fun of dynasties that you get to lineup all the quarterbacks that are available to you with the quarterbacks that you think will fall to you at the end of round one. I would probably just draft the quarterback, and by the way, Peter Paul Steven John are like saints or apostles something like that. This is from Steve or Steve from Brooklyn New York question about Philip Lindsay. My dynasty running back room consists of Chubb Lindsey and Drake as my top three. But I've been offered the fifth pick of the first round for Lindsey straight up. So guessing that's the rookie draft. I have the six pick and its wealth pick. So can I replace Lindsay pick one zero five most years, I would probably do that trade 'cause I don't know about Lindsay's longevity. But I don't so far really love this class that much. So I don't think I would this year and also day was wrong from Korea as from Korea. Sorry, he says happy lunar new year from Korea. That's my bad riots. Adam thanks for setting me up to fail right from central. Michigan says, hey, some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and heath I am a ten team super flex dynasty league. With thirty four players. Eleven starters eleven bench and twelve practice squad players those draft. Rookies twelve guys on the practical. Ow. How much of my one hundred dollars fab should I spend to get Damian Williams already. I don't get this. I already have McCaffrey mixing, kerryon Johnson and Marlin MAC. I don't think it's been willing twenty percent. Why isn't he oh this is your fab for the whole year? And Dame somehow. Yeah, why agent get I don't know. I don't know that was not sense in week fourteen. Just so you know, I would spend more than twenty percent. But probably not much more than forty percent. Okay. This is from I'd go after it a little bit. Last one. Brian are Willie from the home of Mark Twain. Missouri. It is apiary maybe Hannibal. I I look it up for you. Dear Brian, Matt Eric and Josh. Think I know that what do you think it is patriots assistance became head coaches? Yeah. I think you're right. Also does look like Mark Twain's home is three. So Florida, Missouri, Florida, Florida, Missouri. The Mark Twain boyhood home, you is in Hannibal. That's where the museum is. That's not a hard in Florida zuri that is so that's where he was his own was Hannibal make up your minds, Mark Twain's from the home of that's Hemingway. Got right. He's REM I think he's from Florida Florida's early or Florida, Florida. I think he's from zuri Florida. First off sees Willie's question first off season attend team dynasty, the we had the startup draft last summer. I've got dalvin cook Sony, Michelle Nick Chubb, Aaron Jones Darius guys Tevin Coleman. Matt Breda Gus Edwards and Jamaal Williams. Geez. We we play two running backs and three flexes I'm fine at wide receiver. Michael thomas? Kenny golladay Corey Davis, Calvin Ridley Sammy Watkins Cortlandt sudden and quarterback. My initial thought was the trade two running backs and maybe a lower tier wide receiver or tight end for an elite running back what's decent package to put together for Zeke or Kamera or running back of that caliber would say Aaron Jones Darius guys and Calvin really be enticing. No, it's so difficult to do this in attend team league because everybody has a ton of really good players. Now, probably not as Mr. got like a museum. He's got the bizarre Kentucky Florida museum of dynasty running backs. I think you may have to do something like Sony Michelle and Aaron Jones as phonetic to be an overpay Willie Sony Michelle Aaron Jones for name, you're running back. You'll probably get someone rejected. But. Well, would you running backs would you give up Michelle and Aaron Jones for? Mark lisi. I'm gonna actually go to direction I think I would give up any two of your running backs as long any two of your running back for Zeki late. Willie? The secret of getting ahead is getting started or saquon Barkley Todd Gurley right? Definitely one Parkway to not really I I don't know. I'm so uncomfortable. You know what? I don't care if Tonio Brown goes to San Francisco because I look forward to months and months of Todd Gurley debates. We've got a lot to look forward to. Thank you. Everybody for listening. We'll have two ways from Chicago come on. Dave. You're from Chicago oak park, Illinois. Well, where's this home? Do you guys know where Washington Irving from? I know where this podcast go sleepy hollow. No, no, no. That.

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"All Right Mason and Ireland show brank him and he's information. We have fasttrack coming up for you in an hour and by the way our National Crisis Greg has been averted. Is that true yes I have. I have twitter again. Twitter is available twitter was leaving notifications. I'm not seeing my notifications. I've gotten a few or for mentions nothing nineteen seconds ago okay so there is Brian and this is a fascinating and I think it's it's. It's going to be a test case for for what is coming up. There is a fascinating problem happening right now. With the Los Angeles chargers yes Melvin Gordon their best running back and a guy who made it to the pro bowl last year over the best player has informed the chargers that unless he gets a new contract he will not report to training camp and will demand a trade. This is according to his agent. WHO's a guy named Fletcher? Smith Smith Breath says he and Gordon did not WanNa go this route but because of the lack of progress in negotiation in the offers the chargers made this offseason they felt it's necessary to voice displeasure in an effort to reach a better outcome whether it's a new no contract or trade now. This is why Brian. I think it's fascinating look at the rams. Todd Gurley was in this boat a couple of years ago. The rams gave girly a four year multimillion dollar contract and now girly has knee problems and he might not make it to the end of the contract. We don't know we're hoping that he does well but if Gordon is looking for the same deal Gurley got now levy on bell went through the same thing when he's with the steelers and he sat out a whole year and here's why I think that Melvin Gordon is doing this running backs age early. <hes> you know like we're seeing with girly Levian. Dan Bell was a bell cal running back a workhorse but they they basically they Levian Bell said I'd rather not have the wear and tear on my body to protect my value then I would taking a deal. I don't want now. The problem is Melvin. Gordon is under contract you know he technically should report and if the chargers give him a new deal it sets a bad precedent for everybody who comes along both coming up next year right but here's why whites weird I actually agree with the way both sides are handling this. If the chargers get a new contract and say we'RE GONNA go with Austin Heckler and I would completely understand that because they don't want to set a bad precedent but at the same time I understand Melvin Gordon's position. I don't know how this ends. What do you think the girly thing is got to be sort of a cautionary tale for them because I should point he's in the fifth the era of a deal of an existing deal the pay them five points right and I think I'm sure they could franchise him or threaten the franchise of next year I mean the they're all kinds of mechanisms that are available to teams? I just the thing the two things that are that are true. You're right John Because it's it's both sides are doing what they think is right here. Melvin Gordon needs to get paid he needs to you know in you need to get paid for your production. He is if you look at this second over the last three years second touches third and scrimmage jarreds in the N._F._l.. In the N._F._l.. Third and touchdowns behind a levy on Valentine's early <hes> and in those categories and so he's been incredibly productive. He's to the chargers. What girly is to the rams? Ramsey is a three down back. He catches passes. He can be split out wide. He can do anything he is the motor for that often make no mistake. They are in a super bowl contender window last year they made they WANNA playoff game. They went into the second round. They got beat for the Patriots but they are really good absolutely and Austin Heckler is a good player. He is not as good as Melvin Gordon and you know so you look at this and Melvin Gordon is twenty five might attorney Twenty-six by now and you you understand barely twenty six. He understands the same thing you do John that this is it like if you don't get paid now the chargers could give him three hundred touches next year three hundred fifty touches and all of a sudden his value goes down that much more get paid right. But what do you do if you're the chargers he's under contract. Our other players are gonNA come along and have great years who are under Dave based all their salary cap decisions and who they radio Vin Gordon making five million early in this year in something next year. We're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. So what do you do I mean if you're the chargers the response to this basically told Levy on bell go pound sand right and they're not going to be as good because James Connors good player but he wasn't as good as Levy on belet overall. They're going to struggle in you know no Antonio Brown this year to figure some stuff out but basically the rams response to that question was okay be as good as Todd Gurley and then we'll talk about whether or not you can come in and have some leverage in throw your weight around and all that kind of be that good and so they not everybody is Melvin Gordon. Not Everybody's tiger early so the next person comes along and says I want to renegotiate my deal will you can tell them okay fine. You're not that good. Maybe it's Joey Bosa. Who is that good but if it's someone else you just say no and you'll get someone else if you have to the PRI- Gordon is Gordon is already one one of the three or four best running backs in the league? I mean there is there's anybody would you would do a dispute that but the chargers can look at it and say you've played sixteen games once the other one sixteen sixteen game season the other one's twelve twelve and thirteen. He's already been hurt so it's not even like you have to wait around for the guy that you know the question mark as to whether or not he's GonNa play. He's already been there so the chargers the do you WanNa give him fifteen million sixteen seventy million. I don't think they want to what about this argument. Running backs are pretty much interchangeable in I don't buy that. I don't think they all are all right. Last year. James Connor basically outperformed what Levian Bell had not really though he didn't though because he's not the same as a pass catcher was different as a different on the offense he ran the ball well but didn't run the wall better in Beleza different threat out of the backfield changes the way the teams have to defend you can split out todd Gurley on second down not on third when you're expecting a pass. Catching Darren sproles type guy to be in there you put in all of a sudden you know it's it's first and second down and Todd Gurley standing the on the slot or a standing by the sidelines and you gotta figure this out. He puts pressure on Defenses Melvin Gordon's the same way that another player you're can't do or you can say well. We'll take two guys have a third down back in the first and second well can now but now you're that much more predictable. So what how do you quantify that. What's that worth? What's that Worth Philip rivers? What's that word to Mike Williams to Keenan Allen? How much better does having Melvin Gordon there may Keenan Allen? Can you get a first round pick for him if you decide to trade him sure. I don't think so here's why depends on who you towards a back. It would have to be a team that is close. They think they can make a run this year and like I keep thinking about the bears or somebody like that but the bears are GonNa pick at the very back of the draft because they're going to be good the or somebody that has a great quarterback Aaron Aaron Rodgers like you know like the packers the the doesn't have a great running right but it it's it's a hard decision for the it's. I don't fully I think there are certain running backs that be the three down guys is the guys who can catch passes as much as they can run who can make defenses miss well. That's sort of homerun capability who are genuinely different you know and we you know anybody who plays fantasy. Football knows every single running back in the league and there are certain guys that are just like way more productive and way more useful and some of that kind of translates the same way as Danny Green. We talked about Danny Green before how having his presence standing there in the corner you can't leave him. Changes defenses having girly on the field changes defenses having having Melvin Gordon on the field changes with defense in ways that doesn't well. Here's the thing though it's a cap league okay so if you spend seventeen million on a running back that's going to affect you everywhere else. LANNING spending I mean at some point. They knew if they wanted to keep Melvin Gordon. They're going to have to pay but I'm talking about this year. They have they think they can compete and go to the Super Bowl this. How much how much what have I would put something up to if he agreed to a new deal all right if Melvin Gordon agreed to a new deal he still make five point six million this year but he would have the security whenever comes forward I just I think if you can structure that way like I don't understand unless the the plan was you know what if he asked for too much money were just not gonNA keep him? Maybe that was the plan like they're not budgeting for Melvin Gordon at fifteen or fourteen or sixteen or whatever the market says in the same way the rams were clearly budgeting for girly three years ago were budgeting for early to be in a twelve to sixteen million dollar slot this year and going forward yeah but back to my point that running backs. It's a passing league now Brian running backs are interchangeable. I don't know how many running backs I could name that finished in the top ten in rushing last year do you. I don't look it up. No I mean that's what I'm saying. I'm running running. Backs arc spent like like I don't know who led the League in rushing to you right but it's Ri. That's why the honor Greg's confirm is connor in the top five no all right so <hes> you know the he's eleven gordon average six point one yards per touch last year passing and running six point one yards point one on the ground touch five one in the grounds very good all right so read the top ten rushers last year Ezekiel Elliott was first saquon Barkley Todd Gurley Joe Mixing misery was third. Yeah Nixon was fourth Chris Carson from Seattle was Fifth Christian McCaffrey Derrick Henry Adrian Peterson Hafer is a great great example there because it's the lottery in Peterson was seventh and eighth eighth in what what matters more isn't totally what is in rushing yards. It's total yards and then what matters isn't brushing name on that list sit jumps out that if I could get right now I would put him above everybody else who I am curious. If you guys came up with the same one saquon Barkley no I mean besides modern N._F._l.. I think Christian McCaffrey volume that's the one nine and ten was Philip. Lindsay Z. Chub Champs was awesome for my teams this year Chris Carson he couldn't never scored what matters is. It's not rushing yards. It's total yards and then it's how how much of your total yards words as a percentage of your team's total yards. How much does your does that guy make your offense? Go girly matters more to the rams offense than you know <hes> Philip Lindsey to the broncos offense right but I'm with my argument we organised the same thing McCaffrey's the same deal to chargers are absolutely loaded wide receiver. They have a dependable quarterback Philip rivers who never gets hurt. Why can't heckler be there running in passing can he can? It's just not as good I think if this is GonNa end bad for Gordon I think that the chargers kind of control me they well because that's how it works. Football and these guys are are more disposable than they should be and you know you get paid. Dude got paid not maybe not as much as he could of made or whatever levy on Belden but we'll never know maybe tears A._C._l.. Last year playing and doesn't doesn't get sign anywhere or something like that but you end up on the jets <hes> from a great situation playing for one of the story franchises and now you're on now. You're a jet and so- Melvin Gordon's got a great setup in in San Diego great city good quarterback <hes> all that kind of stuff and now you're gonNA move into a new stadium all of that great team and if you don't play for their yeah you might get picked up by somebody but now maybe you're in Jacksonville great congratulations <hes> you're getting paid and which is important you but you're in Jacksonville. Yeah I just don't. I don't know how much money I pay running back and that's why this thing is so weird. I think Melvin Gordon's doing basically what Levian Bell did. This is a huge test case for how future like man question is. This is the same thing the cowboys are going to be faced with Dak Prescott you know do you pay Dak Prescott thirty million dollars a year even though he's probably not worth that but he's sixteen and eight is a starter and the question of quarterback is always who who can you get. That's better right if you plan on winning running back. I think you can get almost anybody in the names on that list greg read. We didn't Philip Lindsey in Chris Carson. We didn't expect to be on that list right but I don't think you put the the the truly elite players true difference makers are different than those guys and maybe they don't have the same pure rushing yards but Christian McCaffrey had to be near the top of total yards running by the way you come in the rams lot. What's your expectation level? Level for early this year is he is he. Does he gain a thousand yards. I think yeah I think of anything it's load management. I think it's the same like more than if touch total touching twenty game Max is it over under probably under <music> slightly under most weeks I try to limit it to eighteen nineteen. You're there might run by a couple of weeks where it goes twenty five twenty six probably they gotta get through the playoffs. Running backs are just get so beat up. You know <hes> how many guys on that list I think maybe one Adrian Peterson was owed Greg anybody else on that list. Peterson is over the age of thirty. I think running back and meters entailed on. I think that running backs are just you get them from like twenty two to twenty seven and then they're done and then I think what what you'll see from Shaw McVeigh's how do you what kind of plays are you calling. What kind of formations not every carry is exactly the same? Obviously you're going to take a beating and all that no matter what but are you pounding him straight into the line every time are you. Are you running some traps. You're getting them outside. The how are you making it so yeah. He's going to get tackled but five plays a game he can run out of bounds and not absorb hit like he's going to be near a silent. He's going GONNA be split out wide so you know matched up against the linebacker in space or a defensive backer safety in space as posted defensive lineman and then the linebackers and then so how can I and I don't know the answer this. How do you protect girly so oh that the touches that he gets aren't as brutal as they might? You Know Twenty five touches that are seventy five percent of the brutality versus twenty five where he's is getting pounded. I don't only answer that I don't think you can and we'll tell you why coming up Brian Cabinets information fast track at the top of the Hour E._s._p._N.. L._A.. All Right Mason and Ireland show a lot of people reacting to the conversation we just had about Todd Gurley about Melvin Gordon Ryan Brian Simpson a note John White and I'm going to throw that you Brian. Why did the rams not resent C.? J. Anderson Makes Sense. If the talk is load management for Tiger I think it's because they gave the money to Malcolm Brown right. I think some of that they wanted to catch passes and C.. J. Anderson doesn't do that so if you're going to try to replicate girly and that's the way they drafted Gerald Henderson out of Memphis who average like ten yards per touch last or something just insane production is that he can do both of those things so I think what you one they really do like Malcolm Brown and if Brown were healthy last year Anderson wouldn't have been there so brown is back they draft Henderson and they like Henderson in part because he's kind of skill set wise mimics girly a little bit. I'm a girly but that's what they're thinking is C.. J. Anderson was really good but he doesn't catch passes okay so I want you to weigh in on something that was hotly debated yesterday during fast track we have coming up for you at the top of the hour but here was the story Brian and then I'm GonNa Greg. PUT UP A poll and I'll have you get checked. The results of the poll Greg but Michael was sitting in your chair. I had a story about a woman in Lufkin Texas which is in East Texas. I used to work in it. When I worked in Beaumont? I used to go do stories in Lufkin. Texas sounds awesome okay so she right now in July in the middle of July in Lufkin Texas. It's like one hundred degrees with ninety nine percent humidity so she walked into a grocery store this woman a friend of hers. That guy is shooting the video of this on his cellphone. She opens up a container of Blue Bell Ice Cream. She licks it. Yes she puts the top back on <hes> and puts the container back on the Shelf Liquor Kerr. I've heard of her. Okay bluebell liquor okay the they then make the mistake in this era of everyone's a millennial and who didn't if it's not on tape it didn't happen of sending this out as a social media post. Yes the video of her doing miss <hes> the store sees it. They figure out who this woman is. They figure out who the guy is and they are now charging these two people particularly the woman with a felony felony for disturbing consumer products which is you can charge me with founding. If you're the judge in this case you can assign her between two and twenty years years in prison for this act or you could just give her a fine and let her offered. She Seventeen K Michael Thompson. I put it said Michael Jordan. You're the judge you're not far far off from where my total went. I'm sure was like why can't you be in jail for forty years Michael's Germophobic okay what Brian is a reasonable punishment for this girl. She's seventeen seventeen. It's really stupid. <hes> eight is ultimately gross more than it is actually dangerous to people okay <hes>. I don't think I would send her to prison. kyw would find her. I would give for extensive community service and probation and things like that. I don't think I would put a felony on her record at seventeen for something this stupid I agree with you. <hes> what Michael said was five years the minimum and you know who hard time by the way rocks you know who agrees with Michael. The judge probably Greg Bergman who you you actually think that penalty is on the light side. It's about right yeah yeah so I couldn't believe that Brian because I had the exact same. Take as you because you're taking you can't take it just for the looking of the ice cream. That's just silly to go to jail for for just so why what's your what's your rationale forgive five years it's because of what it does is beyond that taking it further than that because first of all the entire everything is now contaminated in there because you don't know which they pulled on the ice cream out then they think they got the container that she actually did. They pull all the ice cream out right away or do after fairly quick they they've issued a statement saying we not only think we got the actual container but just to be safe. We pulled all the ice the you can say that which Brian like you say you're lying and then let me someone May Day. I see what you're saying. You're afraid of going viral viral point but what about in Brian's in Bryant solution. I think you can check both boxes. You give her a ridiculous amount of community service and you make your judges can do embarrassment bets. You can make her wear a sandwich board the outside the I wouldn't do that well. No but I'm saying Greg wants this to quit Brian. How would you keep it from going viral? I already is viral problem. I think most people look at it and go. That's really stupid I. I don't think people are going to suddenly say. Hey you know she got away with it. All she was provisioned. I'm going to do that to there are already people doing it. There are people taking mouthwash gargling with it spitting it back in and putting it back into the out there people are re are copycatting this already Eddie and you don't even know maybe the people are doing this and not even putting posting it on social media. They're just doing it just for the fun of it now and what's happening is it. It is a scary thing that some of these people may have diseases. They may have some. They may be sick. which all that's that's different nightly if I if I know I have some sort of I saw that great law there was a great law and order? I watch on T._V.. Solved through Dick Wolf you know for example. There's a great great one where a person had H._i._v. and was knowingly spreading that to people like that's never give up. If you're sick you have the flu. You don't know it right away right. There's live fairly decent just if we're going on straight analytics there's a fairly early decent chance this woman is not carrying around a transferable disease who but okay so Brian disagreed about this so much die and brig and liquor gate have the guy great yesterday he said to me. I have one child he said John. If Jack Ireland ate ice cream had died died died got sick angry. If that were the case I mean right right right so let me get let me get to the heart of this so Bryant Michael and Greg were so adamant that five years was an appropriate punishment and I was so adamant that it was it was way over the top that I had greg egg to steal a page from our fringe sodano put out a poll our first of all read the wording of the poll I by the way I sent this out the station Senate out so we get some fairly good traction has about four thousand votes. Okay how how many years should the woman that lick the ice cream and put it back at a grocery store. Get is now you are starting with the premise that she deserves years in prison. None of listen to the trust the choices are five years or more less than five years so I think that's a no-brainer less than five years all right greg what is at after four thousand votes. What were the actual results fifty three percent to forty seven percents fifty three percent five years or more believable? I don't hear anybody in this audience. Talk about criminal justice reform you guys are. She says she mass seventeen years old. Come on you ruining your life and like Bryan said You put a felony. She's a stupid kid greg five years I I didn't really her. Life did not realize she was seventeen. First of all however it is still it's disgusting to do these things. It's off rig are and Grundy did it on video doesn't make it okay what I'm saying. What would you give ran aground day? She should get into a thing cure. I don't care if you're celebrity. She doesn't get any kind of like just because you're a celebrity doesn't mean all of a sudden. Oh Yeah you get off now. Because you're a celebrity. You did some stupid. You did something disgusting that can get people sick. My who knows my new most important wish in life all right more than we solve. The traffic problem in Los Angeles is that Greg Bergman never becomes a judge in any parts I well. I come from a lawyer family. Dad's lawyer my brother's a lawyer I understand the social texture dad and takes your brother and tell me what side well how they would vote in that poll I this is such an extreme overreaction by you and Michael and Brian. I cannot believe that fifty eighty three percent of the poll ears totally disgusting and awful like you know what do you do. What would you give somebody a restaurant employee who is found of spitting? Somebody's food disgusting five years. No you come on man. They fired you. Lose your job if you if I here's for that if you get you get fired from Jeff but in by the difference this girl what's the difference girl is going to be embarrassed already basically by the strict if Greg if you you gave her one year I would be very resistant to that but I would you know because the public sentiment is running so against me on this. I'd say okay one year five years. If it was Pedro bias life I live a similar thing happened in a store the other day I want to see how you guys handle shirt with the next <hes> fasttrack and half an hour and by the way Greg just got a text a Danny Green looking good for one forty five so we we may hear from Dan task we may here we we hope there <hes> I got Tunisia working on it and she thinks she can make it happen at one forty so we we think we're GonNa hear from Danny Green in this hour a Brian Information E._S._p._N.. L._A.. Reaction is pouring in over Bergman. The dictators tators five year sentence gusting girl that lick the Ice Cream Greg. I I will simply let you answer this anyway. You want in Greg's world licking ice cream gets you five years in prison. How much stealing doing TV online zero because it's not stealing watch you? Watch your house stealing. It's I am not stealing anything. I am going to a reputable website and it is giving me. There's nothing reputable your website. It is no it's not reading completely reputable. That's not the website that you're going to. That's the place you're going to find the place to steelcase so you guys in the same vein that the girl looking the ice cream green have not just the ice there. There's an incident that's running wild the first time I heard this eleven yard show but this is just really weird okay now. I want you to picture that you're in line at a BAGEL store to buy biggles Brian. Are you with me. I have so far you're asking me because I'm Jewish no I I I a lot of bagels. Might people okay so there is a guy in the BAGEL store and he's not having a good day. This man is exceptionally short and he does not like it when people point out his height but in fairness lead trudell by his bagels in peace and digit now you beat Greg beeped out the necessary words I cut it out completely. Yes I sat and took my time okay now so bryant. Here's my question Greg. You Two answers well if you're standing behind this guy in line at the bagel place. How do you handle it to say oh you five feet or dating sites? You should be dead tax. Okay you hear nobody women in general have set dating site. Take time making that up everywhere. I go the same smart with the binding you're not God for my father all my fourth so I want you to attack. They need to say a big guy came in and basically shut him up now Brian. If the big guy is going off to a woman the way he was in front of you at the store. What do you do first thing I do? I lick his bagels guys. Getting a dozen licked bagels in his bag. That's just a done deal and nobody's GonNa get sent to prison over that. I mean you leave the store. I guess as a starter and how do you do it. He's not leaving Mo- Bagel don't have security right and the one guy that said to calm down said you're not my live father almost almost busted out. You're not the boss of me Yeah Pretty Close Yeah. I didn't call the COPS. If you have to Greg. Would you do well apparently before that he was being degrading towards women just in general all throughout <unk> out those are the people behind the counter the wind behind the counter. He's being degraded for you. Do the same thing that that guy did the guy out you take them out. Absolutely he's coming at you. You disagree. I think he was just mouth and off it was he was saying terrible things about women what he did Kinda Kinda bump into the bigger guy which I thought was a huge mistake. This guy obviously has some serious issues that need to get resolved. You think that's that's obvious but but it's a very difficult thing I well number one. If my kids are with me I leave yeah. I get my kids out of this possible. If I'm not if I I don't have any kids with me. I think I wouldn't say calm down but I say to them. Hey Man is there anything I can do and I think he's still go off at me but I try and talk them down first and then maybe try and walk out out of the store I just say come Outta here with me. I'll pay for your bagels. Just come and get him out of the ritual either way when you're doing that gives everybody an opportunity to lick those bagels your immediate all right coming up next we're going to try and track down new Laker guard Danny Green and at the top of the hour fasttrack my dad. I got to respond my dad by the way okay well. What no no this goes back to? The Ice Cream Liquor Greg's dad is a lawyer Greg. His son is saying five years for the young girl who liked the African Greg. I'm seeing his way overboard overboard. What would your dad's idea? The proper punishment by father. Dan Bergman has said that he that she should clean the aisle with her tongue with no toothpaste now see isn't that better than five years in prison. I die with you. Dan Dan I completely agree with Bergman. Your son is a tyrant. They bad E._S._P._N.. L._A. Mason and Ireland show we got fast track coming up at the top of the hour and the one one thing that Greg you you were worried about it has actually already happened. There is an there's an ice cream challen yup that is going on where they're encouraging others to think you'll have to participate but people do and they should all be rounded up and find wind and you know if you keep doing it. I guess maybe there's income appoint to throw the book at people. Apparently millions of people watched her do this on Youtube I and now now who knows how many people are doing on this ice cream challenge. It's ridiculous Hickey lizards the only differences between now and then is like now we have video evidence of people doing things that they've probably been doing for decades. We didn't know about this is your ice cream ale and licking ice cream in the restaurant and doing all these things and messing with your food food for years and you just didn't know because it wasn't on the Internet. Ignorance is bliss my friend. This is something that I don't understand about the millennial generation okay so if you're going to do that like let's say you're going to do it on a dare right like when Arianna undergrounding did it. It doesn't make any sense to me that you would record it and you have to because otherwise people won't know that you did it and it'll be won't be funny. You know you'll have to just tell them van. Then Line's always says to me this is Z.. Generation of if you show me pictures or it didn't happen exactly speaking of which by the way we mentioned earlier that <hes> Lakers head coach Frank Vogel the Lakers lost last night and summer lead to the Knicks but I'm not putting a whole lot. Ah You know you've got every Lego game I the I'm not putting a whole lot of worry in how the Lakers are playing in summer leagues. The Lakers Summer League team looked for about three days like it might be kind of important before the Lakers ended up filling up the roster. It looked like maybe they might need a couple of nobody. Nobody who played for the Lakers Summer League team is going to be on the big team this year and so but at that game <hes> Lakers head coach Frank Vogel. was there and you know we've been saying ever since Kris Haines. Chris has really good reporter. He used to work for us of E._S._P._N.. They went to Yahoo reported a couple of days ago. That Lebron is going to be the point guard for the Lakers this year Frank Vogel says not so fast he was interviewed by Ryan Ruko at Halftime of the game last night in Las Vegas and here's what Frank said about not just Lebron Brian but any of the positions for the Lakers how you envisioned the pieces fitting since there's already reports of the brain will be your point guard right yeah. You know everybody's sort of piece together our style. There's no decision made on our starting lineup <hes> immanent in a plan to start Laurent at the point guard spot <hes> a lot of different laminate lineups and combinations. Have this have been discussed but it's really way too early for any of that. I still brain. What do you envision as is to be the land of I won't say that starts but the lineup that maybe finishes the best lineup they can put on the coin? You'll see them generally small at the end of games. I don't think <hes> jail or Anthony Davis will be on the floor unless there's some sort of matchup dictates it <hes> you'll see Lebron A._d.. D- <HES> Kuzma I think we'll be on the floor for a lot of games and finished games. I think Danny Green Scott to be there because he greenlees both sides of the law and some version whether it's Casey P Avery Bradley one of those other guys who you know maybe whoever shooting better that day or whatever the match ups are another guard to guard the other teams guards and also stay outside and hit shots. I think that's basically you're finishing line. You know one thing I keep hearing. Is that <hes> you know what are the Lakers going to be like defensively <hes> as if they don't have anyone who can defend because they've been bad defensively oh good last year until the team fell apart. They're much better than they get credit but I would argue that on on ball defenders. <hes> Danny Green was ranked the number one defensive point guard or not point guard shooting guard in the league last year by metrics. Rex and Anthony Davis Bryant is a tremendous shot blocker and defensive player yeah. I think that you know your your guard's a remains to be seen who's out there. It's Casey is a good on the ball defense decisions decision and it's really about what you do as a team right and you know Rondo gets criticized for being you know getting beaten off the dribble on defense but rondos going to get you several steals. Everyone was terrible defender but I'm just saying that if you put him out there with Anthony Davis and everybody's better with Dana Green and and Anthony Davis but I would get better it doesn't mean we're good at it all right so speaking of Danny Green <hes> this was my the one signing that even before the rumors started. I would really hope what happened because the the thing the Lakers need more than anything anything else after watching every game for the past five years is they need defense in you need three point shooting and this guy brings both and Danny Nice enough to join us now. Danny congratulations on your deal man welcomed L._A.. Thank you thank you of deciding Eh. I'm here in the facility now and I really enjoyed it all right so you obviously I knew you were close to you. You're talking to the Mavericks and that's going to be a really interesting team down there with porzingas and Luca. You're talking to the Lakers at the end of the day. You probably could've gone back to Toronto after coming off a title. Why did you decide to sign with the Lakers? I thought they had the best chances to be a contender right now. <hes> especially after the quiet decision wasn't going back. <hes> I think tomatoes still good spot and as a place that I called home but I think you know the best teams out there that I felt it was a contender right now was L._A.. Number One and then maybe number two but in Dallas is in the right. I think they were GONNA take them a couple more years to get some maturity. I those guys for them to be honest. We don't know what presents health is going to be so. I just think they weren't ready right now but I think L._A.. For sure with the pieces already had which weren't many but oh really good pieces like three thousand roster that you had to make the team contender right now so yeah it was a good start. We start with Lebron James Anthony Davis. That's that's that's. That's a decent place to begin. Yeah Yeah for sure good. What was that process like for you? <hes> you know because you know it seemed from the outside like it was just you know Co.. I was big decision taking time doing it and you were kind of attached to it in that way where you are going to be able to make a decision until he did. What was that like? I guess I WANNA say stressful but it was. I find that I in the beginning you see a lot then it was a little stressful than many different motions man going throughout the five days. It's only five days but it seemed longer than that. <hes> <hes> people thought I was attached to with decision was with most of I think the teams were attached. Wasn't I had to wait for the teams to see whether or not he was gonna go there for them to all right. You know he's not coming here. We got space for you or your next in line so so <hes> but I was also WanNa see what he was going a lot of range of emotion throughout those five days Dany Green New Lakers guard is joining us now Dany when you look at all of the players the Lakers have signed. How do you think the pieces fit together? I think they said greatly <hes> we have so many different lineups we can use so many different threat and a deep team a lot of guys that can or whoever does come off the bench COMPLA- I can start most teams in the league and that goes Sir Bradley two Jared Dudley. Those guys are really good crafty important guys that are bring some you know great to the table for us. Go Big. I mean go small. You can go meeting. We have so many of us to switch on the line and guard people and also get out homerun Danny when I when I was listening to guys on the team you meant you know I mentioned A._D.. And Lebron you made sure to to put in Coosa in there. What have you as somebody who's played against enough for a couple of years? What do you see out of coups? That gives you that opinion every time we played against him. He's killed some reason maybe one at one time he didn't but he has a lot of potential men for guys is is great touch and a great understanding for the game was for a young kid has only been in the League for a couple. I use <HES> so is ahead of time I think he is you know a lot of essential do some great things and not just for our team but as league I consider him a potential all star. What does it do for player? I mean you saw this in San Antonio where as a young player you're surrounded system with veteran guys and you guys are kind of knew how to win in what the program was. This is the first year for Kyle to be in a program where he oh he's not going to be one of eight rookie rookies and young players. What what what do you think he could do to firmly be surrounded by veterans in a situation where now you know the finals are real expectation? I think it helped him tremendously <hes> if he's willing to learn which I think he is things like that kid reaching out for information even asked me about my pop before he thought about doing one and what I'm saying so you know I think it'll definitely boosts confidence to help them learn and mature you know a lot faster than he would in other areas other organizations or other eighteen because if somebody that have been there you know he's able to jump on it and run and also the apart of it while he's learning. Danny Green is joining US Danny your first year in the League. You played with Lebron in Cleveland. What's the best thing about playing with Lebron? <hes> just the fun you have many. He's very light hearted so big kid and <hes> you know he makes the game easy for you. He's GonNa he's a selfless guy. He obviously he's a great story can score but I think it's more of a facilitator more than anything and he's GonNa get guys openings then play the game the right way. You can't ask for anything more. I can't thank enough for doing this. I think your skill set is absolutely perfect for what the Lakers need. Is your defense in your three point. Shooting is going to be huge addition. Hey before we let you go. I only go to Toronto once a year because I do the Laker Games on the radio but I can't imagine what that must have been like to win a title in Toronto. They were so basketball football crazy when I was there for the regular season. What was that like when you guys eventually want it and had the parade and in bringing the first ever title to Canada? It was very overwhelming man <hes> but in a good way was crazy <hes> so I think there was icing on the AH cake for us to win. It was so happy that we got to the finals right. Then you know struggling here not making it you know losing second round third round never been there and when we got there they treat it like it was a championship for us to win. It was just a cherry on top and they went crazy with the parade. I five and a half hours six thousand people going crazy and agitate a tour Kano camps people still going nuts and they're not upset about it then I better they're very thankful and you know they seem to show love everywhere in.

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"What's going on everybody? I'm Molly Camrose and you're listening to the first take podcast. The years just been sliding by. Don't they how is it March already? It's not too late to change your life this year. If you're still not in a job you love stop messing around go to my computer career dot Edu and take the free career evaluation to day. You could start your new life as an information technology professional in as little as four months even with zero. It experience helping people starting. It career is what we do. Many of our graduates could do little more than turn their computer on and off before they started a ten classes on campus or live online just twice a week to get the skills and certifications. You'll need to start your new career more than just a school. My computer career helped get into the industry by working with hundreds of employers that hire our students. My computer career is nationally. Accredited and financial aid is available to those who qualify including the GI bill. Classes start soon so go take the free career evaluation today at my computer career dot Edu. It's not rocket science. It's my computer career dot. Edu the biggest armfield news of the season continues to be Tom Brady who is reportedly heading to Tampa as we wait the official funding the deal with the bus that expectations for Brady led Tampa Bay squad. Continue to spark debate on that note. We welcome back our Ryan Clark. Max I'm coming to you as I love to say on all things one. Tom Brady. Tell me this Max. Who Do you think's going to have more success next season? Is it Bella? Check up there and your favorite city of Boston or is it brady down south in Tampa Brady. If you if you go by the metric that he has to take a team. That's here and bring them here. Radio have more success. However the real answer will be belichick. That's the actual answer. Who will have more success? Because what is everybody talking about right now right now. Everyone's talking about Stephen. A SMITH FOREMOST AMONG THEM. Brady had nothing to work with in New England. He didn't have any weapons now. We all acknowledge. He didn't have a great season. He didn't have any weapons. You didn't have a great season. But they won twelve games. What the Bucks. Win Last year bucks win a lot of games last year so so the bucks is the bucks. Fortunes will rise because they're replacing a bad quarterback with a solid. Nfl quarterback who's good when it matters most right their fortunes will rise. What's GonNa Happen to the Patriots when you take the quarterback away still with no weapons? Where the weapons? Well my prediction is. They're going to win at least as many games as the bucks in fact. I think they'll win more games in the bucks. It's not lost on me that the one time Brady wasn't available to. They didn't go to the playoffs right but they won. Eleven Games with Matt Cassel Eleven gains. And let's not forget how often we enter the season even in recent years looking at the Patriots? Five six years ago going this year they fall off. Look they just. Don't have the talent now. You can say well. Radi made everyone veteran. Of course he contributed to that when he was closer to his tribe. But it's really belching the GM collecting the pieces including on the defense and the coach designing the offense and the defense to put all the pieces in the best position to win. If Mike Tomlin can win eight games with the steelers last year I gotta take chicks winning double digits this year. I'm not of that mindset. I'm a role where Brady because I think that of defense and Tampa particularly the second. Half of the season wasn't as awful as it appeared. I don't think that I don't think that we can denied it. I think that James Winston's a thirty interceptions. Put that defense in a bad spot. That was why they were ranked. Twenty ninth in points forfeited but just fifteenth in yards allowed. I think that's a direct indictment against Jameis Winston and the position that he put that defense in all far too many cages. Even though to his credit he did throw for fifty one hundred yards and he did throw for thirty three touchdown so when we say he's bad he had the turnover prone indefinitely. That's not a good thing but it wasn't like he didn't do anything. Good I think in the end when you look at Tom. Brady to have Godwin available to have Evans available to have OJ Howard available -brate available etc. I think when you look at the Potpourri of weapons that he has at his disposal if not the multitude of weapons that he has this when you take into account if you have any belief in Byron left which has an offensive coordinator if you have any belief in Bruce Arians as a play Korla you consider what their reputation and their history has been in terms of getting some level of offensive production in the case of boots areas. Not just when he was in Arizona not just when he was the Pittsburgh but when he replaced Gano because Donald got ill in Indianapolis as a head coach you look at his history his resume and then you take into account what Tom Brady breaks at the table with those multitude of weapons. And then you look at the NFC. South Atlanta is such that. We've seen that last year particularly defensively albeit due to injuries for the most part Carolina is definitely suspect with the overhaul taking place with them and New Orleans is damn good but look at the amount of points they gave up the Jameis Winston and Tampa last year. Look at the amount of points they gave it to Garoppolo in San Francisco. And you see those kind of things that you imagine. What Tom Brady will be able to do with these weapons? It wouldn't surprise me at all if Tampa Bay ended up winning eleven games this upcoming season and New England one team because even though Miami is still suspect they don't get me started with Ryan Clark's boy missed a geese Adam case in New York. The bills are still there. They're going to be better. And the New England patriots are going to have one of the toughest schedule with a new quarterback. I definitely think it's posible that Brady end up. Having a better year than the Patriots. I think the Patriots defense is going to be elite again offense. They're going to be challenged. Well LISTEN IS I. Don't like the type of disrespect that. James Winston is getting right. Now Max looted to it on the show with James. Winston walks into a stadium. He's the all time quarterback he's the quarterback for both teams because his play is GonNa keep both teams in the game simultaneously if the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Get points big. You know you know you can still win because James might throw you to football. But if they are you're never know he might go off. You say what I play a year. Hey because when that may walks into stadium both teams know. They have a chance because of him. He's the only quarterback league you can say that about that. Was your quota disrespectful. That was your this this make aware to jerseys at one time. There's nobody else in his thirty for thirty so he does wish thirty okay to wait for a brother. All I got around clock so in other words even though you gave the ultimate hater. Ray Tim the ultimate disrespect because you also give the ultimate love to him. It balances out. Is that what you're saying? The plan he ended the absolutely listen. I'm Steve I'm GonNa go with Stephen say that is going to be Tom. Brady and I think it's because when you look at the weapons at Tampa Stephen. They mentioned he's going to put up yards. We looked at this team early on the year. Two New England patriots through their first four games the redskins the jets the Miami Dolphins. And we were talking about. This team going undefeated because at that time. You thought they would have Josh Gordon. They added Antonio Brown for a game. And this offense was potent. Tom Brady was making sure he'd got the football two stars. Well he has stars in Tampa Bay what we also watched last year. Was this defense as the got long as we got later on into the season as we got into the first playoff game. They weren't as good. They weren't as dominant. They were feasting on bad quarterbacks on bad teams but winning got to the thick into the heat of things they lost games the teams that had better offensive players which is why they weren't going to host throughout the playoffs and they were second behind the Baltimore Ravens. Third one hundred ravens into chief so when you look at that. This team was actually declining to the end of last season. And now you don't know who you'll have at quarterback they still don't have the weapons and they've lost some pieces on defenses on defense already and even though some of those people aren't household names. We know that's the way that the New England patriots put themselves together to stop people. Tom Brady is going to win. Football Games they're going to score points he's going to protect the ball and one thing. I'll say about the defense of numbers of the Tampa. Bay Buccaneers. You looked at him. Twenty nine points but fifteen yards giving. It also helps when sometimes you just don't have to play because the other teams scoring on defense so we can't necessarily say that they're gonNA stop people at that rate but I believe protecting the ball. Having a running game with Jones Bruce Arians embar left which called into place. And you gotTA understand Tom. Brady's going to be a part of what they do. I think the Tampa Bay buccaneers win more games. The New England patriots and Tom Brady is more his job. The bill belichick. Woobie but see. That's my point really when you look at. The expectations are the box. Have so much on offense that Ryan Fitzpatrick looked like an MVP for a couple of games. Like maybe he should have the team. If you push us a competent quarterback who's not going to give the ball the other the other team the ball with that box offense. They should've done big big things in recent years and Brady can be that guy. People are acknowledging it. Just don't mess this up. And they may add more weapons whereas bellichik. Brady made sure there would not a backup. Quarterback Jimmy G. is gone. Who's the backup? And by the way a lot of the quarterbacks or even off the market at this point in free agency so the expectations for the Patriots. Or what are they going to do? When I'm telling you right now. Sleep on Bella chicken the Patriots at your own peril. So given the expectations I expect bellichik. Outperform is an. I don't know that Brady lives up to the expectations in Tampa. I think I just feel like when we're when we talk about expectations we expect the Tampa Bay buccaneers to be great offensively. We expect the Tampa Bay buccaneers to be better than they were last year. I'm not saying that they're gonNA come in and win the Super Bowl. I'm not necessarily ready to put them on top of the New Orleans Saints as the NFC South favorites. I believe you do need chemistry. You do need to understand okay. How Tom Brady work? How will Bruce Areas Call? So I don't think the expectations will be that high Tampa Bay. But I do believe that Tom Brady plays well. This team plays well and get into the playoffs. Next you with the League's best running backs. Maybe traveling different paths. While the Tennessee titans used their franchise tag on last year's leading rusher Derrick Henry. The Rams may be considering a future without todd. Gurley Jeff Darlington said yesterday sportscenter. That girlie is likely than not to be traded from the team. Girly has suffered through some injuries. He signed a four year. Sixty million dollar extension in two thousand eighteen now the rams have decisions on girlies contract and future in twenty twenty. He has a base salary of five. Point five million that becomes fully guaranteed girly also has a five million dollar twenty twenty one roster bonus that would become fully guaranteed Friday as well Ryan Clark back here with us. Max Does girly proved that the titans made the right move with Henry. It does I hate to say it but it does at any running backs watching this show. I'm sorry man like this is this is the way it is. This is the argument. In fact four drafting running backs high in the draft. Saquon Barkley Todd. Gurley Ezekiel Elliott. This why you can. In fact in my view spend a high draft pick on a difference making kind of running back. The argument against that is you can approximate value later in the draft. And maybe you can you know but if you're not sure about the later guys but you're sure about this guy you can take him. Why because running back as a skill position that literally hits the ground running immediately basically from week one a great running back is already basically all pro. They can already help. You'RE NOT GONNA two three years developing them of course to get better and better different aspects of their game but they're basically very valuable. They're not basically. They are very valuable from game one. So you're getting all that value that eventually. It's time to pay him. Why pay him franchise them time to pay him again franchise again at that point there? Twenty seven years old. And you say okay. Here's your guarantee it ain't one hundred million eightieth fifty million. Here's a twenty thirty million dollar guarantee because you only got about two years left so you can juice them. I hate to say it but it's true. How's The girly contract working out? It's brutal position physically. Can't stay on the field and when he is frequently he's not the same guy. How's it working out when teams give out Levian belt big running back contracts versus franchising them? They're good to get the best here and they're committed for one season. Derrick Henry. I hope you get your money running backs out there. Nothing personal I want you to get paid but this is the reality of the way. The business is structured. Running backs never really has to get that payday at least a smart teams. Don't give it to them. Listen I'm more right with that thinking so long as we all right when a running back holds out. I don't WanNa hear anybody complaining about running backs. You have one good year. You're only twenty one twenty two years of age just got into the League and you want your money. I don't want to hear any complaints about that because you talk about individuals that are having you know. Things held against them just because of the position that they play. It could be nothing that they've done. What did you just say Max? You know what you can we. Twenty five years of age of franchise then franchise him again. Then He's twenty seven years of age. Okay that's close enough to thirty. So that's the perfect. Excuse not to pay this guy and what I'm saying to you is. That's the kind of stuff that simply can't happen. We can't go by that. You got to look at it from that perspective and say you know what something's gotTa be done in regards to that because that's just a damn shame that it is but it is what it is all. I'm saying is if you're a Derrick Henry. I think there are exceptions to some of these rules. For example. He's everything to the Tennessee. Titans this no way on earth that Ryan tannehill would have had the year that he had once he came for. Marcus Mariota Endeavor can was not that this this no way so when you take that into consideration. And he's the one that reaps the benefit. I mean we had questions as to whether or not Ryan. Tannehill should have been a backup quarterback in the national football league and because of the exceptional play a Derrick Henry and the low he carries three hundred and three carries fifteen hundred plus Job Ryan. Tannehill ends up walking away with a four year. One hundred eighteen million dollar deal with about ninety. One million dollars guaranteed. There's no way in hell that he had that money. Come in Tampa if it were not for Derek Stephen Formats. So he's not. He's a quarterback Derek Harry's running back but in the end when you see the value and how those guys are the ones that suffer. I don't WanNa hear anybody complaining. When a young cat at the running back position the mantis money very very early. Because we understand it Stephen. A you're right and real quick before we can. We just pause for one second to acknowledge Stephen with the over. The shoulder in the remote didn't miss a beat the whole time. That was Stephen. Hey that was smooth. That's a special Ed. I expect nothing less. Stevie name is not just todd. Gurley though it's the entire running back position it's the way that it works right now. Let's look at the dudes who are extremely special. The SAQUON Barkley Christian McCaffrey. I think those are guys who are going to get money when it's time for for their contracts to be renewed because we're going to see special traits in them much like we saw special traits and Adrian Peterson. The rest of the guys are Kinda. Just guys right. Look at Nick. Show but second round draft pick. He's a pro bowler in Cleveland. Alvin Kamara he goes in the third row to the New Orleans Saints. He's the guy who's now become a perennial pro bowler so you can find these players in the draft that come in right away and make a difference on your team. And they don't have to be top. Ten picks even know Christian. Mccaffrey was and so in that sense. You say okay. We could find people in the draft that help our team win football games now. Let's look at the guys they get new contracts. Todd Gurley Ezekiel Elliot You can also go to levy on bill. Two of those people are not happy at all right. Listen to things coming out of Elaine. Listen to things coming out of New York. Those are deals that many people think that they shouldn't have signed or they shouldn't have allow Todd Gurley in Levian belt aside. And then you go to Zeke Elliott. Look at the ninety million that he got the fifty plus guaranteed. This is a team that doesn't make a dent in the season. Even though you had the highest paid running back and so when you look at all of these things happening is starting to be. This is not only a situation like quarterbacks where you say you know what once you pay a quarterback that big money. You can't win right because you can't put things around him. You can't bill. It's also becoming that once you pay that running back that big money won. The production doesn't match up. And even if you get production production doesn't bring you championships so when you put all of that together we were making Gumbo. That will be a terrible pot of Gumbo to eat because all points who is the running backs shouldn't get the top dollar. Running back. Should be franchise. Running back should be people that you play well to keep them on your team. But you don't get the top of the market money every time. It's their turn. And I think Melvin Gordon. Got a little bit of this when he came up. He wasn't a special talent. His numbers weren't weren't exceedingly great and the chargers hail doubt on giving him money now. He's in limbo trying to figure out what his next step is going to be. And I think we're going to see this more and more teams. So yeah if you were running back you can hold out. But at some point you're going to have to realize this is what the value of my position is not just. This is what the value of what I blame to a team. Yeah you're right. You're right like the running backs who get free wind up getting franchised a couple of times really getting taken away from them more than anything is the guarantee and it's a brutal position that stuff job once upon a time running back was the glamour spot. They made a lot of money. Relative to other positions. It's a bad deal. Now they're very important to offenses. They're asked to do a lot of things. Nowadays their shelf life is short. And they don't get guaranteed money. But at least the ones who get franchise do get aid. If you get franchise the couple of times and then guaranteed twenty or thirty when you add it all up. Eighty one hundred million dollars there. S The nice career. What about the running backs who are seen as you know what they're not really difference makers they're never gonNA get franchised or paid you know? I think that's the wrong issue. Max I mean I'm not saying you're wrong about what you're saying but I think that's the wrong issue to focus on in here me out guys. We live in the day in time. Where obviously a level of priority has been placed on protecting the quarterback? Right we see some of the rules that have been implemented. You set up you pass gas. You might you might. You might get touched up. I mean we've seen guys that have missed the quarterback and got penalized for crying out loud. Okay what about doing something for the running backs? And here's what I'm talking about. If you recall when the Dallas Cowboys didn't want the Marco Marini Log. That was after the. He rushed the ball. I think like three hundred and ninety two carries that season. Alright this do touched the ball so much and then they said okay because of the wear and tear on you. This is not the way to go. So what would be wrong if if the runningback set up there and say you know something? Y'All should implement a system or we shouldn't WANNA be a part of a system where we got to run the ball two hundred and twenty times a year. Because y'all devaluing US y'all are using our level of productivity against US Derrick. Henry rushed the ball three hundred and three times. He ever is over five yards a carry. He Russ over. Fifteen hundred yards led the league in rushing. Okay and Ryan. Tannehill away since Robert that picture. Yeah you're right here. Pitch counts and their pitch counsel basically to preserve pitchers careers. Protect their bodies. Right thank you so much for being with US listen. Maybe he'll wanted girly a WANNA take his talents down to Tampa as well. Apparently a lot of people WANNA head down there that way now Some things different about our next guest is the last time we spoke to him. Obviously one of the best safety in the NFL consistently but now a super bowl champ tire and matthew with us. Thank you so much for being here. You guys tyrant talk to me about the big news of the week. Obviously Tom Brady getting out of the. Afc away from teams. Like you guys in the chiefs and Patrick Mahomes and heading to Tampa Bay your thoughts on that move out. Well I was surprised. My guess was you know he was going to go to. La Especially with the announcement is new production company But I thank him. And Bruce Arizona are going to have a great relationship I think you know eras is one of those kind of guys that really rallies around veteran players. And you know he cons the no he likes to coast those guys and. I think Tom Brady. You know. Obviously bring a lot to Tampa Bay and it'll be high expectations for those guys. You know right off the bat when I watch you first of all congratulations on the Super Bowl Championship. I thought one of the turning point was when I saw you on the sideline going off employees. Your boys to step up at the. Y'All were down by about ten but I gotta ask you this question. Because there's so many people when they talk about Tom Brady. They bring up the path of easier resistance or easiest resistance. Patrick Mahomes your quarterback. Is that dude right now? Nobody can deny that he's the best in the game but the thought of not wanting to go against him as being incentive for any quarterback to me takes away from competitive fervor just from a generic or general perspective. How do you feel as a football player when you hear former football players on the air talking about the need to avoid Patrick Mahomes if you want some level of success? What's your thought process about that kind of thinking? Yeah for one. I think mahomes especially I think. He's going to be one of the best quarterbacks that really ever play the game. I think in my opinion when I when I think about Tom Brady You know I understand that. He's probably wanted to vote the greatest competitor of our generation You know he's one of those quarterbacks that always got the job done so I've never really looked at him as a guy to proceed. Take the easy way out of feel. He's always God has really proven himself. I think the next challenge for him to go to Tampa Bay and try to make. Those guys really are championship caliber team. You're actually one of my favorite players to watch. No I'm not alone in that sentiment and we just came off segment where we were talking about running backs getting paid and how they don't get paid. I know you've had some comments about that recently. Especially as it relates to Tennessee but from my point of view. It's the nature of the position. All football players are underpaid. If that wasn't the case there wouldn't be a salary cap because if you took that away. So we know you're underpaid. Let's start there but within that. Quarterbacks are overpaid and that's the way it is they are. That's why when you pay him you don't win. Championships and other positions are underpaid you for example or pegged around thirteen fourteen million a season in your contracts quarterbacks or peg tyre what is your feeling about the segment. We just talked about that subject matter. For example Tennessee. Tannahill gets paid. Derrick Henry gets franchised. I mean it's frustrating especially from a player perspective in I've had opportunities to actually play against you know both lose guys actually And in my opinion you know I feel like Tennessee really leaned on Derrick Henry. They didn't necessarily LEAN ON RYAN. Tannehill Bryan Tannen. Hill stepped up at some big moments and had some big gains for them. I feel like they're at him. It was really their personality. He was their attitude and He was really their morale. You know a lot of times throughout the season so you know to see a guy like that kind of get pushed to the side. There's definitely firstly for Blair tire and I have a lot of farmers here in this next question. So you're a former Texan. Your former teammate. Deandre Hopkins gets traded to your former team the Arizona cardinals. What's your reaction to that news? Yeah I was. I was probably shocked as everybody else. You know really couldn't imagine deandre Hopkins really not you know retirement. You know an Texans uniform out you know. Spent the season with him a couple of years ago. And you know he's probably everything you want in the player especially a tea man Not only the things he does on the football field Monday nights Thursday nights Sunday nights fister kind of impacting the community as well he was one of those guys that was always out there. Who's very vocal about you? Know specially the Boise and a lot of people hoping Houston so I think to see him. Go is definitely shocking. But to see him to see him unite with his greatest mentor alleged Gerald I'm pretty sure those guys going through some special in Arizona. So since he's gone since he's gone from the AFC Odyssey the kids the reigning super bowl champions or whatever when you look at the competition around the AFC. Tom Brady is gone. Diop is no longer in. Houston this still Shawn Watson and Houston. No there's still a more Jackson and Baltimore when you look at a threat to the supremacy to Kansas City chiefs at this particular moment in time. What team comes to your mind that you all need to watch out for more than anybody. What thank mean speeding but I think every team we should watch out for. But I think you've got to look at a team like the Baltimore Ravens You know you've got I look at the guy that's really lead ship a Lamar Jackson and he's so humble. He's so hungry. And the sky's the limit for him and I think he'll continue. Push that team that franchise to to really Great Heights. And you look at some of the pieces that they were able to add. You know the last couple of days in free agency. I think they're trying to make a run for so definitely see ray was in. Erin you know but but never take lightly you know really Any opponent you know In the NFL looking at the other side of the ball. At someone who you'd have to worry about if you were playing them. I look at Tyreek Hill and I think there's a there's a sense about him early on in his career like a special teams e. kind of player and so people haven't caught up on the reality like when you hear the best receivers in football a lot of times. His name is left off but I is. He the best receiver I. It seems that he's underrated. What are your about Tyreek Hill? Thank the in. My opinion is definitely one of the best receives football. I've had a chance to really practice against him. Go up against him in one on launch no cameras and he's crafty and I think a lot of times that get overshadowed just simply his speed you gotta understand a lot of times when he lines up you know. He's lining up into man coverage coverage coverages. So you know his route combinations get limited in a sense so that anytime. He has the ability to show that he is. An elite runner specially like wrote other. He ran the Super Bowl. I think more and more people will begin to pick up on. Thank is just that you know. He's so fast and then people just kind of stuck on his feet and don't necessarily pay attention to really how crafty he is and and really his word that Taryn the first time I got to interview way back in the day. You're just a young. Lsu There's another lsu great who's entering the draft that would be one. Joe Borough his garnered a lot of attention. Tell me from your perspective. What do you think he's going to bring to the NFL? What is going to bring some juice? You know he's definitely definitely has some swagger you know think of anybody who's really followed. Lsu football and has really seen his progression his grope there they'll realize that he's really matured into this really young quarterback that has attitude that has personality swagger. And I thank. You understands what he wants to get gun plot the course of a football game And so I've had a chance to really watch him up close and personal You know he's so mature He's so humble but he's he's definitely excited about the next level and I think he's more so excited to really cool people wrong. If it's approved himself you may not to put on the pops anything like that. I know we gotta go but I just WanNa let you know man. All of us are proud of you. Not just with the way that you've grown and the whole bit man. You deserve all the success. That's come your way man. Nothing but the best to you and your family keep doing your thing thank you. I appreciate it guys. Thank you so much. Yeah always a pleasure and congrats on that chip be safe. You can get you later about your hairdo. We'll have that discussion off. The air just wanted to come on this show today to express my disgust about this narrative that Tom Brady has been done wrong. What we know is Bill Belichick. Tom Brady in the greatest position to be successful. That's the number one job of a coach in a successful but look to see if they on August you're going after two decades because he spent one season without an outsider titan. No it's just as hearing this three times that I felt this kind of pain. Honestly when you talk about the sports world when when Michael Jordan left Chicago with Buster Douglas. Not that Mike Tyson and now. We're talking about leaving the three times in sports that I saw this kind of pain and by the way that is because Brady was top one and now you're top fifteen. That's a big drop off in a year and a half. Let's say money today because actually have to have two hours listening to your dribble not the best. Everybody's greatest ever and I was a year off not two years off all over the place and then you say anything. They've read that. Everybody would mortgage their future in order to win a super bowl now but you can then the Patriots for sitting there keeping Tom Brady instead of Jimmy Garoppolo when they want to win the three straight super bowl from the time you said the clip had Iran. There's unbelievable it really really. It's about Tom Brady. If the New England Patriots Specifically Bill Belichick if I believe this is my personal belief. Nothing else if he were tweet. It better by Bill Belichick and not treated as just somebody that you know what? You're just another player. As opposed to a six time champion. The quarterback who has led this franchise to non Super Bowl appearances over the last twenty years if he was treated as such and acknowledged in that fashion. I don't believe that Tom Brady would be the party for the Patriots next season. I don't believe he would have say goodbye. There are thousands of quarterbacks the lead there will be headaches that come through his cabinet. That will never achieve. What Tom Brady is able to do? Because Bill Belichick and the new Matrix Organization put him in a position to be successful through. You know what you can you talk but you blow in nobody out this way. I disagree with you disagree when we get back for commercial and we'll elaborate on what you can pick up like you right. What wait a second in swag good are still can't Martini. Glasses fears the baby face. Marcus Biz is really really worked. Dad that really work when I was able to put that together. I couldn't pass that up. That was Larry. I couldn't I couldn't pass it up so away. Why don't we do? The whole show's been a part of Larrea. It's my sister. My sister still laugh about how you can puff but you blown nobody reading all heavy background talk like he was really like to balls and I do a lot of carbon carbon at that comment my goodness all right guys good stuff. I'm glad we got to show that we all needed that laugh. let's get into some more news though and I want to get back to that. Houston Texan Situation Right now. So remember the trade where they're sending pro bowl wide receiver de'andre Hopkins to the cardinals that made news fold on and off the field on get up hall of Famer. Michael Irvin shared some strong comments from a conversation. He had with Hopkins following the deal. Listen to them. Thought he had too much influence over the locker room. He called the Andre Hopkins in a meeting to talk about this and the kind of just hash it out in the meeting. He started the meeting with telling the Andre Hopkins. This that blew my mind would be Andrea. Told me this. He said he told the under Hopkins. He said Hey our last time I had to have a meeting like this. It was with Aaron Hernandez I was like. What did he put in Aaron Hernandez in this meeting? He said yes he did. He said Michael that blew my mind that he would even bring that. I've never been in any trouble. I don't know why would he equate me with Aaron Hernandez and from there? The meeting. Just deteriorated. You're talking about the Andrea Hopkins because the Dropkin has a few kids and and from different different different women and he said you know he told the Andre. He doesn't like that. He has his baby mamas around sometimes and from that I think the relationship just went bad. And thus we gotTA trade the Andrei Hopkins from from Houston for basically like. I said earlier a ham sandwich all because of that relationship. All right Some heavy stuff here Hopkins. Social Media himself yesterday with the following statement cleaning it up. This is being blown away out of proportion as I've said before I enjoyed an impressive of my time with the Texans. I have the utmost respect for coach. O'brien and that will not change now. I'm ready to play for the cardinals. Stephen Now that we've had a day or so to digest this. Where do you stand on the Hopkins Situation? Well it's no different than where I stood yesterday. I definitely first of all. Let's be clear. Michael Irvin spoke to De'andre Hopkins directly my so. Let as we're working out the technical difficulties with Stephen as audio molly. This is real simple De'andre Hopkins doesn't want distraction. He doesn't WanNa be distraction. This flies in the face of what Michael. Irvin told us that the Andre told him that bill. O'brien told him. But I wanNA cut through everything. Even if it was leaked like Audrey Hopkins wanted a big contract. So he's trying to move him even if none of the bad things bill. O'brien said are true right like he never said any of that stuff. Let's just say for a second. And everything's true that the Audrey Hopkins. Somehow was was a distraction or or worse yet big contracts. DidN'T WANNA meet. How ever you slice it bill. O'brien is a laughably bad. Gif Look at the trades. He's made look at how they've panned out. Look at what the going rate is for a top receiver even with contract demands are likely contract demand. Look what he got for the Andre Hopkins David Johnson as a bad contract running back to the bad contract. Any team would be expected to be compensated for taking the contract here. Take a draft pick in addition of third round. Pick and take the contract. Not only did they not get compensation for David Johnson Cadre. They Traded D. Andrei Hopkins Form and only got a second round. Pick in the deal. Cut through all this stuff. Don't let it distract you bill. O'brien made an awful trade all listen. They've they've evidently resolved. My technical issues swag so. Let me let me go here by saying this number one Michael. Irvin spoke to Hopkins directly. He would not have revealed what he revealed about the Andre Hop because personal business the Andre Hopkins didn't tell him to. I don't believe that for one second having said all of that. I think the Andre Hopkins saw the report reflected on it and said excuse me this is giving people a license to get into my personal business so his willingness to go out there and deflate things. A bit is totally a perfectly understandable. Because he probably didn't expect it to take on a life of its own way to the did and I think as it pertains to him as a father and his situation with his children at the end of the day is none of anybody's business. He could do what he wants to do. And I'm a lean towards what Ryan Clark said yesterday and absolutely positively no disrespect whatsoever but Tom. Brady has a similar situation in terms of multiple kids and from more than one person and nobody ever brings him up so the characterization that is accorded to the Audrey Hopkins at least in his mind is something that black men in particular with five very very insulted. Because that's not the same thing that's according to white may be very very clear bill. O'brien has every right to sit up at the say. Excuse me I don't want all of this in the place you can have whatever situation. You have your personal life as your personal life but there shouldn't be children or this shouldn't be significant others in the work place. He has every right to say that but in the end with everyone else should. I don't know the cause. I'm sorry that's that's all but outside of that. Here's the deal. What the hell you trader for. There's a future hall of fame. Wide Receiver is the best option. D Shawn Watson had and the fact that you traded Andrei Hopkins. If I'm Shawn I'd go on a Bill O'Brien's office and I asked to be traded because I think this man don't know what the hell he's doing as an executive or he allowed his personal feelings to usurp whatever football judgment. We believe him to have. That's what I would ask if I was the Shawn Watson all right. Let me take this in part because I agree with what both the US saying and two things can be true like we talked about. Yesterday it can be true. That deandre Hopkins doesn't want this to be blown out of proportion had already has which is why he came out with a statement but it also can be true that Bill O'Brien may reference to Aaron Hernandez and said that he didn't want his baby's mother's around. I don't even know what that means. First of all because when you're at a facility of football ain't nobody bringing a baby mamas to football practice or around the facility so knowing what capacity that bill. O'brien will be telling that don't they don't like them being around besides besides that match your solo point where what you just said we. We have traded a wide receiver. That is prolific like Stephen. They said a future hall of Famer is Prime. Twenty seven years old. When you have a buddy quarterback that's about the B. To get a massive contract as well that has leaned on Hopkins. Not only has the show a watson. Lead the under Hopkins. All of the quarterbacks that have been through Houston Texas Organization since the Hopkins has been their guest whose production had went down Deirdre. Hopkin production has went out. This is this is personal. This is something that did transpire by hearts and this roll man look at. What's the look at what Minnesota step for days and look at what the Houston Texas? Just got for the. Corner? Bill O. Brand made a personal decision based on something about the hundred Hopkins that he does not like it certainly head-scratching I wanna get the NBA. And here quickly because I have an update for you guys so as the NBA continues to be suspended and dealing with the corona virus in news of some players testing positive league. Commissioner Adam silver joined our Rachel Nichols to discuss be potential options for a return. Take a lesson. I'd say I'm looking at three different things here. One is of course. When can we restart an operate as we've known it? Nineteen thousand fans and buildings. That's one set of criteria and option two is. How would we should? We consider restarting without fans. And what would that mean and then a third option that we're looking at now in? I would say all suggestions welcome. Is that as sort of beginning of this interview. I've mentioned the impact to me on the national psyche of having no sports programming on television. And one of the things we've been talking about are there conditions in which a group of players could compete? You know and maybe it's for a giant fundraiser. Just for the collective good of the people that you take a subset of players and is there a protocol which they can be tested and quarantined and I or isolated in some way and then they can compete against each other just because again people are stuck at home and I think they need a diversion? They need to be entertained all right. That was the commissioner Max. How do you like silvers propose ideas? He's right on the money. There is a reality that first of all I mentioned earlier. The idea that we all expect equal health outcomes. It's just not the world we're living in and there's their primaries going on in one in one political party that speak to that. That's one of the central issues. But he's right on the money in terms of historically and and going forward what we should expect in terms of wanting diversion from this particularly when people are trapped indoors there is value there as tests become more widely available you expect even before then for for for organizations like the NBA to be trying to get their players tested things like that but more than any of that stuff guys. There's Adam Silver Front and center taking questions act behaving responsibly. And right on the money I have to say as usual. His commissionership has been has been. No one's perfect split. It's been an excellent example to others. Max Option Number. Two is best played a game without fans in attendance for two reasons number. One you get the players back in the court. I'm not talking about obviously at this specific moment but getting the players back on the court to compete with one another is better than the charitable event. You get them back on court. Obviously you'd have to have some workers there but you wouldn't have an audience. You get the Games. But in the same breath the omission of the audience highlights the importance of practicing social distancing which clearly not enough people in America have taken. He has taken heat to with the idiotic. Irresponsible cells stopped socializing in person in a bunch of crowd with people. You don't even know. That's the whole objective. The medical professions have been imploring us to do listen to them. And if you ain't around family and close wanted to keep your distance. Don't shake hands on a hugging one another and all of this other stuff period hundred percents all right. We'll see tomorrow.

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Hour 1 - (07-25-19)

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It's hour one and it's Thursday Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick Show N._F._l.. Training camps most of them are open and everybody has hope even the worst team in football. This year has hope will explain that coming up. We'll also talk to Kurt Warner. He's at the giants camp and of course there's a quarterback controversy controversy there apparently with the giants. We'll talk to Kurt Warner about that. He was involved in a so-called quarterback controversy when he used to play for the giants when they were making way for Eli Manning to be the starter there eight seven seven three D._p.. Show Oh email address DP Dan Patrick dot com twitter handle the DP show say good morning to our radio and T._v.. Partners this weekend marks the twentieth anniversary of the day Barry Sanders walked away from Football Sanders announced his retirement on the eve eve of the lions training camp. Now I had gotten word right after the last game of the season Berry was going to leave and go to Europe he was going to go to London and I thought that was strange and his agent said Ed. I'm going to tell you what Barry's going to do but you can't report on it until he gets on his flight and I had to wait until I got confirmation that Barry Sanders had left the country he was that upset disappointed in. I'm not sure what he wanted to do with his football career and he got on a late night flight to go to Europe and then I got the go-ahead to report that Barry Sanders had basically left the building and was contemplating retirement. Now we look at running backs now. We've devalued running backs. We're looking at the situation with Melvin Gordon. We're looking at Ezekiel. Elliot Lake on bell got paid but this was a different time a different era where you looked at your running back and he wasn't interchangeable. No one ever said that about Barry Sanders. He didn't have a good team around him. I think they may have made the playoffs. Once I think the other marquee guy they had was Herman Moore but other than that they didn't have much with the lions no running back in history could have made something out of nothing more than Sanders did with the Detroit Lions. There were a lot of players that were like Barry Sanders as far as the numbers he would put up but there was nobody who went about it the way berry did and he would run into a pile and got the feeling that the play was stopped and then it's as if the pile gave birth to another long run by Barry Sanders he didn't know everybody in the League. I remember showing him a highlight where he turned a a defensive back around and I said do you even know who that is and he goes no he. I don't think he loved football. I think he was great at football. I think he loved basketball and was good enough to probably play it. Oklahoma state played pickup games with him very could stand and dunk. He was around five nine and really loved playing basketball and was very good. Even though he played only ten seasons Barry Sanders sits third only all time rushing list but I think those who's in front of him no if Barry wanted to bury would hold all of these records he just didn't want to plus. He grew up in a household where his father kept reminding him that he's no Jim Brown no matter what Berry did it was not going to be good enough to be better than Jim Brown in his father's eyes but no matter why or when he decided to hang them up. There's no doubt the Barry Sanders an all time great and I used to get into these discussions with people that are like Oh you know who's better running back Emmett Smith or Barry Sanders. I said we'll buries a better running back but what Emmett did with that team and they won championships. He played hurt. He played with that separated shoulder. You know when you needed to do something Emma did it. He got it done. It was just berry played on a bad team. He was a great running back on a bad team would have been a great running back on the cowboys. Yes he would that was a great offensive line and you had weapons you had a quarterback who was stable was consistent. You had wide receivers tight end. You know you had a full team where you know with the Dallas Cowboys but Barry Sanders twenty years ago and <hes> Berry at the ripe old age of now fifty one probably can't give you a one hundred yards yards in a game but probably close to it. Yes mclovin. It's interesting. He sits third time and you look at the all time rushing list none of those guys he's GonNa get past this year by Frank. Gore Gore makes the buffalo bills but nobody's ever challenging Amit or Walter Payton or ah these guys well. I think we thought Adrian Peterson could've yeah and you know he missed thirty games for different reasons. He got injured blew out his knee got suspended and if you attack on those thirty games at an Adrian Peterson Persson expectation level he's right there you know his pace he would be right there with Emmett Smith and I think he thought that a couple of years ago that he's going to be able to zero in on that frank is gonNA play one more year and I guess if if you're looking at a compiler he's a compiler. I don't think he's ever been considered the best running back in the game but he goes up there and gives you a thousand yards and now he's back whereas with the dolphins now the bill would Alicia McCloy. They're both there and I can't keep track of frank yes to very sanders you know he made the playoffs five time all we did. I was shocked to find that out. Okay one step for running backs. It doesn't get played a lot as yards rushing per game in your career which really judges your greatness emmett Smith average eighty one yards per game rushing which is fine and got him to the hall of Fame Berry Sandwich Average one hundred yards game rushing Jim Brown average over one hundred. Those are the only two guys berries. Still had I think the greatest running season running back has ever had when he was at Oklahoma state now he rushed for over two thousand yard. I mean I if the teams were just hoping that Berry would be taken out of the game and it's still goes back to one of my favorite for quotes where you had a coach. Say whatever you do don't hurt Thurman Thomas because we don't want Barry Sanders to get into the game at Oklahoma state and Thurman. Thomas is a hall of fame running back and they might have been Barry Barry Switzer who said that whatever you do don't hurt Thurman Thomas Because we don't let Barry Sanders to come into the Game Berry's final year at Oklahoma state he averaged two hundred and thirty yards a game that means to ten would have been way off day. He had a couple of times flirted with three hundred but he never kick. I remember that he could have won the rushing title. The Year Crystal Kobe won the rushing title with the Kansas City Chiefs Berry was asked by why is coach Wayne Fontes at the time. Hey you WANNA go in. I think you need ten yards and then you'll win the rushing title and Berry goes. No you know let my backup go in and get some carries he didn't. He didn't care about those things. He didn't care about numbers he truly didn't he wanted to get paid. He wanted to be on a winning team and the fact that he wasn't winning. He just walked away. I have the top players in N._F._l.. History running backs yards per aimed. Jim Brown is number one with one four Barry Sanders is three with ninety nine point eight a current running back as number two Ezekiel Elliott is average one hundred one point two yards a game lose. Maria and I guess the cowboys are optimistic that he will be on the flight to Oxnard California as camp opens and you don't have to take part in the you know you can be taken part in the drills or whatever you need to do but I think being around the team. Don't leave the country. You know you're you got two years left on your deal this getting a head start. I understand if you're going into your last year. I get that and certainly at that position but when you have two years left I have con- some concerns and we haven't had a smooth off season either and that's where I think Ezekiel Elliot's got understand. Maybe he's got leverage because he's got an owner. WHO's desperate desperate to win and I think they have a great chance to be a super bowl team this year? Maybe he's playing on those those emotions there but two years out and then did you hear Steve Kerr's comments. Steve Kerr was on the Golden State Warriors podcast in talked about Anthony Davis forcing his way out of New Orleans. We'll play that for you coming up. What's the poll question you have for for me <hes> today mclovin sponsor by man versus food on cooking channel? It's funny. I had a couple running back. Polls ready off Barry Sanders who's the greatest of all time and I just looked at the stats. I'm like who could compete with Emmett Walter Payton. Her Barry Sanders that I forgot about Jim Brown hill because his numbers are show not he's eleventh all time rushing. I forgot is he win that Paul. None of us really saw him. It's just a different time but in that he was the best running back when we when we valued running-backs Jim Brown was the best running back by far he walked away. I think he was twenty nine and I think that he had like eighteen hundred yards the last year that he walked away this. Isn't you know Sandy. He colfax winning twenty-seven then retiring sandy's arm was falling off. Jim Brown got bored. Letting Jim Brown said any other challenges here. I think I'm going to go into acting and then ends up walking away Yamakawa what about O._J.. O._J. didn't wasn't consistent enough. I mean I think he had four great years. Yod led the League in rushing four times and had the ultimate year thousand O._J.. I thought ran Dan. I he's the most effortless running back oversaw O._J.. was he he would flow he would float it was just something about him. I'd never seen before and this ability to sort sort of he could just sort of you we see lady on bell where he floats and then he goes you know O._J.. was able to do that at all places on the field where you sort of float a little bit and then you go any had sprinter's speed and on the in the open field you he was just remarkable but to see him at U._S._C. when he would do this and then he came to the pros and he went to a bad team and he rushed for two thousand yards you know pretty impressive but he just didn't play long enough to be considered as an all time great the one guy who similar that is Eric Dickerson after his first year with the L._A.. Rams like oh he's breaking every record it's jokey. He's like a track star who has to be six three to twenty five and he did it for six years fantastic and they just broke down answered that he was a different style he very upright in his running style with Eric Dickerson but <hes> you know Jim Brown to me watching him. Grow up and granted. You know those childhood memories. They're always longer-lasting in. You know a deeper imprint on you because you're like Oh. I remember everything about that time watching him run <hes> just something about him but he was different. He was a man amongst boys when he ran you could see where defensive backs they did not want to try to tackle him Obama Club. The second question was who's the best running back in today's game and I didn't even have that many options. I thought it was Ezekiel. Elliott saquon Barkley Todd Gurley <hes>. I don't know who else to McCaffrey delay Bell Yeah. I don't know to those those guys in that poll with the girlies not in there yeah girlie. He's the he's not in there. I don't know if McCaffrey is proven enough yet. We do pretty good job last year. Two thousand yards from scrimmage did pretty good job as yeah eh that offense was was harmless well but how a sake wyoming harmlessly got two thousand yards. I guess you could say the same about Saquon. Barkley Barkley got eighteen hundred yards last year I zeke Elliott is still the best running back in football. Yeah I do now. If you said lady on bell is healthy and you know he's in the right frame of mind then I put lady on bell up there against Zeke Elliot. It's it's a different running back and Saquon. Barkley is pretty fascinating as well but I just want to know what's going to happen with the giants offense. You know if there's no there's open competition for the quarterback and we'll talk to Kurt Warner about this. If if you're the giants and you've already gone all in on drafting a quarterback that high what are you waiting for. No you got yourself in this situation because you were trying to coddle. We live manning instead of saying. Eli doesn't perform up to the level of the quarterback. Who's GonNa make twenty million dollars and we're the New York football giants if you're going to bring in Daniel Jones then bring him in in to get him ready to start all of these quarterbacks who get drafted early? We're ready for them to play Sam Darnold Josh Allen in Buffalo Cuyler Murray so are you Daniel Jones ready to play and I know that if you sit Eli in Daniel Jones gets to play it then it's it's trickier then when you say all right Eli you gotta go back in there. You know the timing of this of of what you do when you do it how you do it. They have a bye week in week eleven already circling that to say all right. Let's say you're I don't know three and seven is Daniel Jones warming up in the bullpen and I would say yes. You're in a rebuild mode you you bring back a hall of fame quarterback in your in a rebuild mode that doesn't make any sense now if you kept all of these guys and gave it one more run then. I understand that but if you're going to have you start then. What are you playing for like? I'd rather you were really bad. Then sort of we're almost okay in. That's what they're probably going to be like. Six ten point. I think it would be really funny is if Eli plays out of his mind and he never does and a regular season but I think they have cowboys bills. Buccaneers Redskins Vikings if somehow like the giants are foreign one after a month and a half or my weeks which is very unlikely he's he wouldn't be bench -able. You'd have have to ride it out. You can't bench a winning quarter if he has a good year and then do decide to bring him back. He says he wants to come back next year for sure well yeah. I mean you know at his age. Then all of a sudden you retire then what are you're GonNa do now he if you if you can stay in the game great you stay in the game and he's probably looking at rothlisberger and rivers and breeze and Brady saying hey. Why can't I do that well? He's not on their level level and he's never blown away during the regular season and I don't think he's going to do it because he doesn't have. The weapons here and the expectation level is not very high and that's why if you're drafting a quarterback that high are you. Are you going to get him ready now or do you want to wait at ear. WHAT'S HE GONNA learn on the sideline apple? If you're a guy like Saquon Barkley did you go into the season thinking wow this this is just a year of toll on my body lever basically a transition transition year and you have to play your brains out you have to bust it all year Yup and all that beating for a transition year wow yup. It's going to be tough year mclovin. I don't even know what they're transitioning to. What's the next? Does it feel like there's a bright cloud over the horizon for them. I Guess Daniel Jones drafted a quarterback in the top ten and you have a great running back it. I think that's a referendum on Daniel jobs like who's like Oh my God. They have Daniel Jones. He just doesn't there's. It's no buzz around him. Why Kyla Murray it's like he feels like it feels like they drafted kirk cousins? You know he's just so blah. New is really good. Everyone says but but they're they're really talking about that G._M.. Every time every chance he gets he wants to tell Eh. Daniel Jones is doing and it's like if he's doing that. Well open up the competition here like can he be better than Eli Manning. If you're at if so why wouldn't they play right Dan Patrick show is brought to you by legalzoom. They're here to help you. Run Your Business. Let legalzoom help you out day to day hurdles so you can focus on what you do best. That's a visit legalzoom dot com now use the Promo Code Patrick Special Savings legalzoom life meets legal the clippers introduce their new stars and that can only mean one thing Steve Balmer is very very excited Seton. 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Not at farmers insurance we know the sound of a perfect hot air balloon landing and a less than perfect one click for more of underwritten by farmer's truck fire insurance exchange affiliates products available interstate speaking of T._B._S. T._N._T.. The players only broadcast is now going away. I'm in the minority I was fine with it was a little bit rocky when you would be you'd have a live read or you'd be thrown to break and you'd have these former players doing it. You know they they should have had somebody who could at least you know kind of steer them. That's what so you're saying. They should have had a non player. Well no there you could have had a former player do it but he has to be a little bit more more of a broadcaster not an analyst and trying to find that person I think that would be and they would have gotten the job not because they are great basketball player but just because they had the ability to be a broadcaster as opposed to analyst so let's just throw Kevin Harlan and you're good well. I know but then it's not players only but I guess that's going away twitter's very happy. It's going away yeah. They love repairs. Talk very very happy that it's going away apparently and I had no clue that people hated it that much we ask why would you we happy. This show is going away because if you don't like it you don't watch it so wouldn't bother you if it's on and the people who like it would probably like it to stay out but if you're watching a game the only way you can watch that game is players only game then you kind of have to suffer through that they it wasn't a smooth broadcast now that let's all just wasn't smooth but if you had somebody in there who was able to kind of lead you navigate a little bit then it it could've survived. I think yes Nikola. He's losing their job. It's all like a shows going away. They just sort of rearranging rearranging their talent a little bit on that right. I mean all those analysts still have their jobs. I Z web and they didn't add anyone for players. Only they just use existing M._B._A.. TV talent well. It's going away then. I hope you're happy you play me. No I'm not I just didn't know when I came in and we started talking about it and then you guys yeah good or juicy what the social media had to say and I'm like did they hate it and they're like yes. I'm going wow I don't know maybe I'm less judgmental when it comes to that because I know it can be difficult to do and to make it smooth. Make it sound good it did it. It is difficult to do that. I think there are a lot of people. People who make it seem easier Saudis your look easier than what it really is that was it it was what I thought it would be in that was unpolished but I was still getting these players just talking to one another other because if you're around players sometimes they can tune you out not knowing that the tune you out because they speak in a different language when they're talking about the game and I was fine with listening to that. It was just something different so but it's gone it's over. It's it's over Johnny by the way Big Day yesterday. Big Day and I have to talk to my doctor and so been on this steamed vegetables purified water GIG here for over sixty days and so I started talking to him. You know I have this consultation. I said he goes. Do you want to know what you can add your diet. I said well I can start going down the list like snickers you know. Can I do Ding dongs and Ho Hojo's Kinda like how about you tell me what I can have and so he says you can have nuts not peanuts. You can have almonds cashews organic and I went okay it gives you can have seeds go seeds okay and then he dropped the bombshell yes Boeing. Can we play the what food to dance doctor say he could eat game. Yes we have music for that right sounds familiar fritzy. I'll start with you back left. What do you think the doctor said I could add to my diet that you can have in small portions a little meat okay mclovin? Let's see Zucchini Spaghetti. no-one can already have that Seton O'Connor. What do you think the doctor ordered ice cream ice cream know can't have any Terry Paulie? What do you think he added to my diet grilled fish of some type no fish at all and once a day for one meal I can have a little bit of chicken chain when I had me a little bit of chicken or meat yeah right yeah once one meal a day? Hey I'm able to do that have brisket then or I think I can but I'm gonNA take it slow with the meat because I don't know how steamed chicken is but it might be awesome. Burn ends with the slather that would be. I can't have the slathered authored stuff on fire it up no now. I'M GONNA wait till tomorrow. I'm okay like I it was a weird feeling yesterday where I was actually you know having chicken and my wife goes like this a big big deal. I said Yeah it's a big deal. I didn't have chicken wing. You know family gathered around to watch me. Take my whole. Can we put out the bat signal from Chad for Traeger. Fly on SHAD. Did Volunteer Chad sent me. A note started the week and he said they bro Whenever you're ready to have meat I'm flying up. I'll cook for you. He would fly up from Florida on traders dime Yes for its tomorrow's a a big day for meet Friday. We cannot roll outs for you. That can be your one meal. Tamara and Casey web of man versus food is going to be in studio for your big day where you're able to add a little meat to the Diet. It's going to be exciting tomorrow afternoon for you. Thank you welcome yeah but I wasn't as is thrilled as I thought I was going to be when I was able to have this because I still eat these burgers these veggie Burgers I might just stay with the Veggie burgers. They've done a pretty good do it do it. Stay with it. They've done a pretty good job. Todd's little Iran. They're ruined it all for you already pretty much already talking about the strike zone high strike all at the end of yesterday's show and we had one minute to go and we and we know that we have one minute to go and I'm trying to go around the room. I gotta do a sponsor Sir. What did we learn from the results of the poll question and Fritzy starts talking about the strike zone when he was in Little League and twenty three seconds to wrap up the show and you you did a monologue on the strike zone when you're in little little league and you knew that I was up against a hard out that I had to be done so we could end the show? I put you in a tight spot inappropriate. It wasn't very uninteresting what I had to say anyway which made it even more and then fritzy after the show goes I. I'm glad you interrupted me because I had no ending to it. I didn't know where I was caught up in like I do this every day and then you don't know where it's you do this every single day but you think you can talk yourself in and out of everything everything anything todd's usual move is like a fate like the song out and then I thought the strikes that's good and then back got to the point where I've been called rude where I just I just cut him off. He'll just start talking and then he'll keep going and then I realized no like you had your moment. I gotta just interrupt you. You handled it well. You didn't say like shut up. The cone of silence didn't come down you but you made it very clear that I should wrap yeah yeah if you like if you won an academy award in that any ward where the light comes on I see you would be screwed you. You couldn't thank everybody wanted to thank you you would be in trouble. It'd be terrible terrible and having a time constraint like that yeah I have to have that it is I do you gotta get us in and out of breaks. This you know sponsors all kinds of things you gotta get in Big Day yesterday for one seat new connor and he got a birthday gift. He didn't even no no he was going to get this and he got it from one of the richest men in the world a gift from one of the richest men in the World Steve Bomber from the clippers and if it's fritzy you know you you saw this mclovin saw this poll we all saw we thought the same thing thing where Coli Paul George get introduced in St bomber got up on the podium and he was excited. He wanted everybody to get fired up. Here's Steve Balmer the clippers owner. It's Okay I love the enthusiasm by the way he's telling members of the media to get up. This wasn't a PEP rally. I don't know how many fans were there but he's he's telling people in the audience to get up and I'm assuming that's most of your media there for this moment and and Seton of course is done a great Steve Balmer impersonation when he's been on stage before and Satan. I don't know if I could ever match the intensity with which he claps his hands then he gets this sort of normal database on it just like but when Oh my God look at this guy. His neck doesn't move but but he was he was very excited yesterday. You don't think we're GONNA win. In my God like co is just sitting there like this guy. Come on guys get up. Let's get excited about the clippers their sedate player in sports history behind him so happy birthday. Thanks the gift that keeps on giving Steve Balmer. We gotta get bomber in Studio. We do we do next time. More out there in would you do the St Balmer Impersonation Front of St would come in and Khakis and button down in the top of my head shave when he comes in and absolutely okay fritzy. That's the top priority and we're going to be in L.. A. And a couple of weeks that is that is the number one guest. If he comes in studio you can shave the top of my head just like that and I'll spend the whole week exactly like Steve Bomber fritzy that has has to be like the number. I don't care any other any other desktop care. I don't Care Lebron Tiger. Michael Jordan home runs matter Steeton O'Connor. I still love the dance though when the bomber dance it's so good. He's got his arms at his side. Did you see him sitting in the chair. He's like they have up there and like these <hes> director's chair. I can't do this terrible T._v.. Gag but his arms or like Donald He'd never sat in a chair before he had them inside the arms like he was like Kennard his body sitting in a chair Steve. There's pretty funny pretty funny. Quiet Leonard did talk about why he became a clipper. Here is quite Leonard listened closely by the way you may have to lean into your T._v. or radio dog being <hes> championship head coach. <hes> you know that's something that I want <hes> experience coach the front offices. You know very <hes> transparent here with me. Just as opportunity forest just build our own. You know what I mean. <hes> they haven't been to a finals <hes> they haven't won a finals so <hes> you know that was something big and exciting for me to make my decision and here's why on the clippers as being better than the Lakers as far as the last few years as far as basketball standpoint. The clippers are then better. <hes> you know they've been okay yeah. You Got Clippers as the favorites to win it all and I got to ease into this season before if you're asking me what my opinion is of who I would take to come out in the West. I think I think Houston is going to be sneaky. Good you know I think we're we're sort of writing them off that these two can't play together but in there could be something magical because they they wanted to play with each other and if you stagger them and I have hardened ball dominant and then he sits down westbrook comes in he's bald dominant Ben Eventually. They're going to get on the floor at the same time. I wish the nuggets had done something I think Utah's going to be better. Golden State might sort of hover there you know with the sixth or seventh spot in the West hold on for dear life get into the postseason and then get klay back. I am fascinated with the Lakers though I really am you so you throw in boogie cousins. They got a couple of shooters now Lebron with a chip on his shoulder. Anthony Davis is in town. Did you see were Jalen. We've already started. Oh God WanNa kill myself. Jalen rose says hey don't be surprised if <HES> ANTHONY DAVIS ENDS UP IN CHICAGO LIKE I don't know I can't do it can't let literally can I just enjoy like a couple of weeks. Maybe a couple of games. Can we wait till next season but when Jalen said that <hes> no in all these guys are going home now Koiwa known Paul George Went Home Lebron went back to Cleveland you know all these guys have had their moments where they go back home and maybe Anthony Davis goes back home to Chicago all right but I will say those guys going back home. They went back home to better teams than what Anthony Davis would be going back to and that's the Chicago Bulls when we come back. Steve Kerr did not like what Anthony Davis did and you'll hear from Steve Kerr right after this and the Dan Patrick Show in in sports a trade can make or break your team a good one community championship but a bad one can set your franchise back for years. It's no different when it comes to selling or trading in your car. You need to make choices and with truecar you gotta start on your roster. Just go to truecar enter your license plate number and watch how your car's details pop up then answer. 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That's our play of the day play the day brought to you by the epoch flash driver they thought of everything including artificial intelligence to deliver unheard of ball speed. You will not box like the pros do build your epic clash driver today at Callaway Golf Dot Com. Did we come up with a poll question mclovin broad you debating cooking chill. Sorry yeah best running back currently in the N._F._l.. And I gave following following choices <hes> Ezekiel Elliott saquon Barkley Girlie girlie on their this avid Kamara and Christian McCaffrey saquon running away with Ezekiel Second Okay Steve Kerr this was in the warriors insider podcast casts yesterday made some headlines The warriors head coach. He has issues with players not honoring their contracts okay. I not surprised at that but he didn't like how the Anthony Davis situation situation was handled. He said it could have been handled quietly here. Steve Kerr it probably could have been handled in a much quieter fashion and it would have been I think much healthier for the League had Davis just played out the season and then gone to he's gone to the franchise. You know summer to kind of see where everybody stood but again these are these are all individual cases and there's there's a lot of movement in the league a lot of different things that have happened for many years many decades. But this one was a little different on this the one that I think that the League would like to see go away. Here's Steve Kerr with players not honoring their contracts as a former player I sort of lean towards player empowerment so you know guys you know who have earned their right to free agency if they WANNA make a move and then you know make a move for their own careers. I'm I'm all for it. They've earned that right. My only issue is when a player WHO's under contract decides not honor the contract. I think that's that's a problem and that's something that could really affect. What we I understand? All of this. I get this but did he call out. Paul George like what's worse. Anthony Davis did LET NEW ORLEANS NO HEY. Hey I'm not staying here. Now wasn't uncomfortable. Was He trying to force his way out yes could he have done it in a quieter manner maybe but he let everybody know everybody was on blast that hey I don't WanNa be here. Rich Paul is agent was leading New Orleans know that you know what you gotTa make a deal with the Lakers and maybe that was going to be a little quieter because didn't New Orleans sort of blow this up and make this a little more public but Anthony Davis forced his way out. He did let that New Orleans No. He was not staying there Paul George I mean what was the turnaround on that. He just signed a contract extension in Oklahoma City. What's worse Paul? George Gone Way quite quite wants me to do what okay well let me go in and tell the front office of Oklahoma City that I'd like to be traded like his in that worse. He just signed a contract. Wasn't it Paul George Day on the day Eh. He announced that he was going to be traded. Didn't they give him his own day. In Oklahoma City is a half day. It was going to be to be happening. Yes mclovin. Are we talking about how Oklahoma City proved a small market could keep the big free agents Paul Jorde and didn't draymond green openly flirt with Kevin Durant after the season was over when I said we need you so Dr Steve Kerr usually means well any very thoughtful smart guy I think if you single out Anthony Davis then you gotta you gotTa Single Out Paul George you got to mention that dream on did reach out to Kevin Durant. Get Him to play for you. You know we don't I don't like the look of what Anthony Davis did because you put the Pelicans in a really precarious position of do we play you. How long do we play you? We don't want you to get hurt. We want to get something for you. The question is what do we get for you. And when do we trade you and now the player has all the power. I'm fine with giving players power. You know you can decide where you WANNA go. When on your contract's up absolutely and I I don't Begrudge Kevin Durant for going to golden state I if he wanted to go there and he wanted to have fun he wondered playing a better system? He wanted to get rid of you. Know Get away from Oklahoma City with Russell Westbrook okay fine. I'm okay with that but Steve Kerr has to acknowledge draymond green text Kevin Durant to come and join them Paul George. What was that a twenty four hour turnaround and you just signed a contract I mean I guess we're hopeful that he is glad that he wasn't on the float for Paul George Day and then all of a sudden it turned into like animal house where the floats starting colliding with people and you know it's a total mess downtown in favor remain calm but I have a problem with Paul George as much as I do if not more than Anthony Davis yes mclovin? I mean Kobe Bryant said if you're not the Lakers don't draft me. I mean this every the the history of the N._B._A.. Is littered with guys if it were thinking if you can pull it off if you can John Elway said to the colts don't draft me. I'm not going here. They drafted him then. They traded his rights. You know till we were talking about Eli Manning earlier didn't he pull the power play softspoken Eli yes well. I think his dad did they didn't WanNa play for that front office with the chargers all right so Steve Kerr not happy here but okay you you move on. This is what the commissioners talking about with tampering I it's it's not surprising that there was tampering because when these deals get done I'm guessing they take a little bit more time than hey thirty two minutes you know after free agency opens and we got a couple of deals to announce here. Yes it goes on. Can you do it in a quieter way a little more covert yeah you would hope that but this is a the this commissioner in the previous commissioner Sir empowered these players he made it a players league. What are their league is? A players leak football's not it's a quarterback's league baseball's. Not It's basketball but they've empowered these players temple. It seems like it's working. Then be has never been talked about more in the off season in the last three or four years. We didn't really talk about they. May Have off seasons the finals and then training camp but I think the Commissioner is trying to protect the owners. He's trying to protect the teams. You know the integrity here but you're right. This has been the most exciting offseason exciting couple of weeks that the N._B._a.'s probably ever perhaps when you think about it all of the movement Trades Colli going from East Coast West Coast <hes> Lakers back in the Game Anthony Davis you've got five or six teams in the West who could legitimately win and the title the sixers going to be interesting. The bucks going to be interesting Celtics interesting this is this is a great time for the N._B._A.. But Steve Kerr Calling Anthony Davis the Lakers and I think there's some more mitigating factors involved in that and there's some other players who did the same if not worse I one hour in the books two more to go Kurt Warner from the N._F._l.. Network on the quarterback controversy with the giants. He's the giants camp today. He'll join US coming up. Hey It's Adam Corolla letting you know about my newest podcast going racing me and Matt the motivator. 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AB's Helmet, Roc Nation Joins Up with NFL, Vic Fangio Stops Rookie Hazing and More

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AB's Helmet, Roc Nation Joins Up with NFL, Vic Fangio Stops Rookie Hazing and More

"Jalen and jacoby worried about the strong prompted this week. Paul is jalen rose. What up don't david jacoby cool j center stage on. Can we put it on wax. It's jalen and jacoby who what do we do <music> <music> what they will roger goodell partnered up with the rock. We also have michael porter jr. Maybe kinda sorta definitely giving away adam silver's phone oh number but we start with antonio brown not only did he return to hard knocks last night excellent seasons so far he also return to training camp and he spoke about his injuries. Let's listen to him and coach. Sean grew a lot better. You know working toward one hundred percent. It's been a process with defeat anytime any time. You know you got a lot of listeners. It's hard to change direction cut and run and be able to do it. I do the sovereign of gopher. I've been awake in a lot of work besides asthma for bulwark and back in obviously it's great to have him back. You know we've had a pretty good understanding of spider. What people think we had a pretty good understanding what what's going to happen and now we're ready to get rolling expected for the opener. Oh ya yeah jalen when you think about antonio brown's return to camp. I think jon gruden is as enthused about talking about all things not football related anymore you remember before for he was like really excited. You talk about how being the head coach of this football team and bringing in antonio brown and how he i can't wait to coach him. He's doing a lot more talking about him then coaching him on the fierce and you can tell by his body language and tone but four for a b. this business as usual shout the drew rosenhaus look. I've been doing a couple of push up. You know i it's great that business is booming for them thirty million dollars over the next couple of years. He said he wanted out of pittsburgh. He made sure they didn't train them to the buffalo bills. He got to the raiders they are really in a transition in year between oakland and when they go to vegas so if it isn't about winning football games and playoff games win hard knocks win the headlines and we are leading our show with antonio brown or the second day in a row i mean he keeps his name aim in the news and when you watch hard rock's is star of the show like they are winning hard knocks right now. I don't think they went to many football games though and you see his feet his car parochial broke you like i'm going to cry. No one's asking me. I'm never going to crouch abraham. Do i'm wearing tom. Brady hugs yet. Look some some type of way and for somebody like he mentioned it plays plays receiver running jumping a lot of cutting but you know the head coast intimidates. He's going to be ready for the opening game. Due to hopefully fantasy owners can rely on it well. It was the feet i you know the crowd chamber and the feet and the blisters but then there was the helmet remember the helmet a._b._c. said he was going to retire if he couldn't wear the helmet that he wanted to wear and he found a little loophole if he finds the helmet that he wants was made within the last ten years. He's allowed to wear it. So what did he do. He needed something took to twitter. Here's here's what a._b. Tweeted he said i'm looking for a shut air advantage adult large helmet that was manufactured in two thousand ten or after an exchange. I we'll traders signed practice. Warn raiders helmet your jalen. The sounds like what's your number. What's your number so gentlemen imagine. You have this helmet that a._b. Sought after you have the helmet he saying he will exchange a practice warned signed raiders helmet for it. That price seems a little low to me. What's your number to give if a the helmet that he i'm glad you went there because initially when i was reading that as it popped up on the screen i was trying to see what the what the prize was gonna gonna be tackling that could gain warned practice warn a practice warlord helmet. That's what he's offering raiders your helmet for me to possibly unlocked his ability to get fifteen million dollars on animals year anymore than with the headgear that he's going to moon on his head to play the sport that he loves. I need more. What's your number then up practice helmet that side so my number how 'bout tickets to every home game i would i would i would specify exactly where they were good tickets to every home game that sounds about right within the first twenty rows that sounds about right because this helmets cannot be easy to come in the first twenty rows take every tickets to every home game and i want an autograph jersey jersey and i wanna game warn signed helmet well. You can gain more inside helmet 'cause he wants to your home in the game at the end of the year. Yeah go get go back into the air there. We go tony brown. If you're watching that should be the price for your helmet. Well we're moving on. We've got some more bad news for the colts and andrew luck you remember he had a little calf strain and then we thought it was a bone problem. Well general manager. Chris ballard explains that it's actually more than that. Let's listen to g._m. Gotta m._r._i. Down in march on the calf i which definitely had a strain and we knew that then in may wasn't he was still having that pain in the lower right below the calf so to test that you go into your specialist and they give you a numbing shot and if it if it makes you feel will automatically better within. There's no doubt that's what it is well. That wasn't the case. There is maybe a little relief but not a lot of relief <hes> so we kind of at that point thought. We don't think that's what it is. We're gonna change some things up with his rehab and then try to get moving just a long way of saying. We have no idea what's wrong with angela. No he said exactly what was wrong from beginning to end now not only the information has to be as close to perfect possible for public consumption based on your competition but betting is now legal so he has to be particular about what's taking place especially what what we saw take place what kadian n._b._a. Finals book for the indianapolis colts they will never like most teams meet their goals without their franchise quarterback and so for him they continue to have bumps and bruises going to each season can be troubling but he is a physical football. Players just happens to play quarterback so i believe if they're finding ways to give them the treatment that he needs arrested. He deserves. Hopefully he's ready to go for the opening night if he's not ready to go for you. We're going if he's not ready to go for opening night. Jalen rose who's gonna play quarterback for the colts quarterback back in two thousand nineteen thousand twenty n._f._l. M._v._p. jacoby percents. You heard it here first. This'll be the year high ankle sprain. This is just gonna be like tom brady and drew bledsoe so he jacoby is going to start week one. He's going to blow them out and he's gonna play really well two and three and then you know what i'm starting to lose my job. I need to force myself back on the field field so he's gonna play. He's going to say you know what coach i'm ready this. You know what mrs luck. We don't need you anymore so jacoby got your copay actually about to be the new nick foles. Yes yes yes. He's going to leave tom brady because he's going to be the goat of benchley. He's gonna pass aw yeah. What's tom brady's understudy in new england and then he eventually the student beats master. He's eventually going to surpass tom. Brady is the greatest quarterback to ever play the position. You heard it here on jalen and jacoby your because it's time for south of broncos head coach vic fangio is robbing us of a summer tradition do member the denver broncos used to give rookies the haircuts yes and they did every you've got tim tebow with the friar tuck. They did this every year. I look forward to it every summer. Look at those. I mean that's fun. That's fun. Well guess what vic fangio not a fan of fun now. I do not support hazing in any way shape or form away. Yes i do that is non violent that is that is a consensual everyone's happy with this seems like a perfectly fine way way of hazing rookies in my mind soft move or boss move getting rid of the hazing haircuts. I think it's a boss. You don't even believe that disagree. The reason why i feel like it's a boss move is because he's trying to establish a culture that over the last couple a couple of years didn't get his goals accomplished even when it had a top-flight defense to help lead to a super bowl in peyton manning's last season when you start to get a new job up whether it's in the front office whether as a head coach you want to try to implement your stamp in your rules on the team and no better way to do it in take something away way that you feel like ultimately became a side show and it is hazy by all definitions if you're a rookie and you have to do it. You're basically glee being bullied. Even though you're doing willing oh look at you. I'm just saying that you're taking the moral high ground on a haircut. You know what i mean what i do such a thing the haircut well so let me ask you this. If i play for the broncos okay and i was a rookie <hes> imagine you think well. 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All he wanted to do was golf golf. He'd be on the links before school after school. All he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson and thinking about his twelve handicap. Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switched to die go and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so that was good and sell was hanging out with his grandson. There's some big news that involves some big names one of which is roger goodell in the n._f._l. Other of which shawn carter better known as jay z the n._f._l. Has announced a partnership with roc nation and h._a._c. to boost their efforts around social injustice. Rock nation will advise the selection of artists for n._f._l. Temple him pull events like the super bowl as well play a key role in the production and promotion of new music and help them with some of their initiatives involving social injustice in the u._s._a. Jalen alan when i saw this. I said this is a great move by the n._f._l. And also said this seems to me to be a direct reaction to some of the negative publicity they've received around the handling of the colin kaepernick situation. What do you think about this move between the n._f._l. Brock nature and i also think that the n._c._a._a. Should be taking note because under their guidelines depending on what day it is. He would not be able to advise collegiate athletes. They wanted to enter the draft a little bit early early to test the waters. How about that but this is a standing ovation in full embrace of the hip hop culture ruin jay z. dropped the bars us that he was overcharging people what they did to the coal crushes this this is an exclamation point for that because he's become not only terrific mc with amazing bars but i could not have imagined when i heard him going back and forth in freestyle with big ill and i listened to reasonable doubt that heat become the mogul that he is to the point to now. I i think he is the perfect person that can embody a relationship that clearly has been fractured with the n._f._l. And it's public <hes> mhm and why has that been the case not only the concussions the opioids but also the race relations and it was heightened by colin kaepernick when he decided to take a knee as catholic he becomes the figurehead of a movement amongst a lot of players absolutely and it was also getting the attention of the highest office in the nation <hes> a lot higher than roger goodell so this is big news beyond just what happens on the field and so for or the n._f._l. It's a big leap for in acknowledging that they need that olive branch and i believe that he can now be a person in the room and robert kraft was instrumental underway. This and i know you talked a lot about the entertainment aspect of it which is going to be terrific because they were seeming to need a pulse as it related a._b. They'll you'll have some atlanta artists performed in atlanta super bowl. Maybe yes i. It just seems like they they they. They they lost their their identity as it related to a lot of their consumers in particular their players who just so happened to be seventy or seventy five percent africa. Here's a question like all right. You want the press conference n._f._l. Got the press conference. You've got us celebrating. You won the press conference but now what how do you win the game like what happens now. What exactly does this this partnership actually me what actions will be taken. How will things i'm glad you went there and for those that are really paying attention and really just have some absorb knowledge of self. This is not an apology. No okay and it's not an admission by the infant with this is is is they realized that i guess the shield has not been bulletproof and people have been taking shots at it. Well put and so while the n._b._a. Has has found ways to dominate the landscape on and off the floor for twelve month new cycle. It seems like the only time we're talking about the n._f._l. In particular in the off season it related to one of those troubling things that i just described and i left out domestic violences assault and so this again when you put somebody really paul for roger goodell and the n._f._l. Bran that touches in reaches just as much as if not any brand in the history of our society now you open up a window to excess people that probably wouldn't be listening to different messages especially from those that don't necessarily look into our sound like they do. It just feels like they're like all right. We've partnered with roc nation. They're gonna pick who played in the super bowl now. What is bigger than now's go bigger than that. What does it really mean it. It's bigger than that because they're talking about. Instituting and supporting change and change happens on the field ville in particular happens in your community where so many people have an opportunity to be beacons for their thoughts their beliefs and we're dealing with some turbulent times in our country and so for those conversation to continue to be had and have meaning with behind them they have to be komo multiple faces in diversity in the room and that level of inclusion it is something that gets us a lot closer towards the consulting pot that we hope this united states of america can represent and i think this is a big step for that brand the n._f._l. In partnering with roc nation to get us closer to what we hope is going to be a united front that we can be proud of love as i represent to the fullest team roc nation represents my of faith that the people of iraq nation know what they're doing in this instance and i have faith that they will you know actually activate some change in our society through this partnership with the n._f._l. And i just hope that this is not just a press release. It can't be a press release when you enlist jay z. That's where goals in a different direction the same person and if you wanted to it just looked for seeds around sports and i'm gonna leave out some when you talk about a goddess almost basically become an entertainment mogul. Oh he is just basically eh pulling strings like a godfather as he should have that level of autonomy and so i just saw the nets are going to complete a sale for two point only three billion dollars. They got moved from new jersey. Who's instrumental in helping that happen. In front rolls a part of the ownership oh to ingratiate shape them into that brooklyn community where he grew up demand and at the time kevin durant kevin durant was a rock nation athlete might as well call kevin dirac and i'm not sure that exact affiliation still is do come full circle. Who's the net star player on the roster. This season kevin durant and kyrie irving is also arusha nathan athlete saquon barkley todd gurley and so how about this fledging mop brought meek mill was in jail not too long ago. He'll get him out will get off probation. Okay so the movement is bigger than the score of the game and i appreciate the fact that as some people may realize vet this level of power is going to continue to have an influence on a lot of people and i'm glad that the n._f._l. Extended this olive branch jalen rose what up doe giants owner john maher was laughed at when he drafted and the team drafted daniel joan and they entail jones himself a really nice preseason season game against the jets and now john mara is answering questions about playing daniel jones. Let's hear what he had to be. A great year again. Never sees in an ideal world is like to see that <hes> but again it's on the end of the day is going to be a decision by head coach to win or if within the game doesn't play one snap as a rookie you'd be okay. That'd be very happy about that means. We're having a great year okay. It would be ideal the deal if daniel jones doesn't take a single snap from under center. Is that serious. Well you gotta you gotta play the long game and i remember so many fans were upset when they felt the giants had the nerve to bench two time superbowl champion and manning and i was one of the people that felt like at the time he deserved it because he wasn't playing like a great quarterback. Who's playing like a below average war and so that's what makes giants one or they'll get a quarterback in the first round whether take a mess six or seventeen they was going to do it anyway now. What does that mean for daniel jones. The team thinks since he's on a rookie deal will we have a chance to continue to nurture him and if he becomes a player on his second year of the deal third year to deal any shows us where say like carson wentz was able to do then he's our guy going forward while we still usher eli into this season and allow him to ride off into the sunset after he has just one amazing amazing year but i'm not affiliated with their team. I'm paying attention to the other thirty one teams in the league as well and i would assume besides is the fact that they have games on their schedule. They won't be any for the playoffs. No so that means they're going to be a struggle at some point which means joe is going to feel feel which means that daniels jones is gonna see jail in one way shape or form is very doable. I'm not going to overreact to one free season. Game new did already only katie look at daniels. There look at look at the huddle. No look at at these charts just lasers to open receivers. Daniel jones is the future of the new york giants and he might as well. They started we he has ah i really wanna get there was a time when he was under center. Joking johnson says something for you ended up for seven yard run face a believe elite hall of fame right now. The next phil simms can't hostetler moving on golden tape. You won't be catching passes. Every time you say going out there. You're gonna say t- golden love lash qualify t chatman <unk> okay. You had a banned substance violation. He'll be suspended for the first four games. He tried to get this suspension appealed. It was not as upheld. Here's what he posts on twitter to explain the situation okay. This is a very long message but essentially what he says is i. I will understand the ruling of the league but you have to remember this about this suspension jalen rose. He came to the league. He was getting a fertility treatment treatment so he brought it to the attention of the league that he was unbeknownst to him at the time taking subs that was banned by the n._f._l. He brought to their attention attention before he ever failed test and then he failed the test. Do you think in this situation. The league should make you know a certain concern circumstantial ruling allowed. There's always something to be said about somebody standing up about what they did if they anticipate is going going to be wrong in moaning it which you basically described it he did so for that. I see where your head is feeling like well maybe since he did data instead of giving them four games why don't give them three sure or dams zero type of thing came into the office. He reached out someone said listen. I'm taking this banned substance. Here's the exact circumstance percents which was taken. Here's what i was prescribed. I'm trying to get news yet pregnant. I got good news. Even though the four gays will be upheld. It's not horrible for him. I know i'm going to tell you. I know exactly what you're gonna say because fans immediate. We don't care we n._f._l. Players get suspended for the band says somewhere else. If you got games four games off more time had the child more fertility work correct whatever that correct they i mean it's four less checks but not only is it for less checks. This is an interesting wrinkle. This suspension violates the terms of his contract so so his next season which was once guaranteed. I believe at some point nine. Million dollars is no longer guaranteed so that it's not just hey. I'm gonna miss more. It's now the giants. They don't like the way golden state plays this year. They can release him with no money guarantee for next ready as they can love the way playing still do it. That's the unfortunate part of the business business and so i disagree with you however that they should consider having a bi zero games even though he was upfront. Let them not the he took something that would possibly lead to him failing a test he did it takes something. Even though it was a fraternally fertility drugs that led to him mm failing a test so if you give him zero games the person that knowingly take somethin' feels like they can now go to the office and do the same thing and try to get zero games. You should do a case by case but now it's time for new jalen. Adam silver was addressing the denver nuggets. It's michael junior. Was there right in the front row. So am i gonna four julius young man he did with young people do he took a picture on snapchat and posted it for the whole world to see only problem in the background adam silver's. I e mail. Oh no adam silver's office and adam silver's no phone number jalen. Take out your phone right now. I haul out of silver cell phone number. Uh we're not gonna put it on the screen because we don't want to make a junior. Did let's give them a call. Put on speaker a voicemail. Let's leave voicemail. That's invite him out tonight. That's invite him out tonight you ready. Let's go put it up. Adam silver mailboxes paul lack lack. The mailbox is full well. How you gonna talk you do the same thing. You don't listen to voicemails jalen. How about that jalen rose will leave you thirty second voicemails else and then if you call him back he will say listen to the voice mail and then call me back. Do you think adam solicit voicemails. No that's why it's full. You know what what if i can't get to his voice voicemail. I'm going to write him. A strongly worded email box. You'll never believe this. The dallas cowboys are in the news. No bill never believe we're going to talk about the dallas on the entertainment programming network and it involves ezekiel elliott it amari cooper dak prescott contracts and jerry jones has been in front of microphones speaking about these big contracts all summer long along with the team. He's the owner uh-huh check the governor whatever we're calling it and here's what the latest he had to say about him and he's contracts and his experience in the past and buckle up because it's about to get really weird. Listen jerry jones pitcher. If you're a driver of a call and you had had a wreck in your hand was almost severed off but you didn't understand your anatomy. He looked down your spurting blood. You open the door and run to the woods. Either dive bleeding to death or shock educated. My style noses anatomy squeezes. His nose is best chances to wait for health. That's causing these. Men are locked done and so i'm waiting. I'm squeezing and waiting craft. Failed test does washing to send a drug test to jerry jones again. Let me just say let me just paraphrase. Jones said this contract situation. It's like being in a car wreck. Seven your hand and instead of running in the woods and bleed to death. He's been there before he understands his anatomy and he's squeezing his hand and waiting for help. What just happened. I got a better one for you jerry to use in the future. No no no that's the perfect analogy was absolutely perfect. I understood everything he was trying to convey read. Their knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. That's pretty good but but jalen that's one you can run with jerry if you would like thought about car accidents and several hands it watching about what was he wants to friday the thirteenth. Not talking about what it is tell you what it is. Tell you this happened. During negotiations. I got a conspiracy theory. Oh conspiracy jalen harry jones watching the godfather and he probably saw the episode in the scene with the horse head in the offer came refuse. Make him an office. They were few jalen. I wish you the best in all things but let's just imagine a hypothetical situation in which you got into a car wreck and your hand was severed and you were bleeding. Would you just sit there and squeeze. Is it now a draft hospital. I'll probably drive into the hospital probably call nine one one under he's like i've been there before you walk in there and see sit there yeah to you never wanna be jerry. Jones noticed in their dog on their gotta. Talk to him about some real he clearly jerry yes jerry. I don't know about that. But what do the contracts again jerry. I don't really understand this. Here's here's what's going to happen you ready for this was the cowboys i'm gonna give you. Some games have the weakest schedule the first three weeks of the n._f._l. So i like i like what you're doing here. Oh where'd you get this. They're going to go into the year and they hope hope impre prayed that they will go three and then they go to look up. That's going to be playing well because he's <hes> three. We know that means a maris playing well. He's in causey essay. Alpha morrison's ran for one hundred dollars. We're good and so will they. Clearly won't win the super bowl without zeke but dina for games they can win a couple of games to start the year without moving on rob. Gronkowski has announced he will announce something on august twenty seven. He'll announce the next chapter of his life in a press conference jalen quick guess the what do you think rob gronkowski ready to ready. I'm ready rob. Gronkowski is d- new era version of the rock a he will be starting in the two thousand. How's it in twenty version of animal house. Wow have you ever seen animal house. Are you lying because you referenced. Is it a lot yeah because john belushi was the plots animal house. Basically it's a bunch of me heads in a house to eat on drinking and partying and learning things about each other. I've seen the movies wanted to white. Movies are seeing growing up. Jalen rose not everything in the world of sports. Pop culture is worthy of discussion on national television show. We're not gonna force topic so we let you decide. What's worthy of discussion with a segment called. He didn't if you wanna talk about it. You say the brakes if you don't meet you and method man and keep it moving. Are you ready mr rose. Let's get it the red sox pitcher. Chris sale broke a record keeping moving or hit the brakes. I'm not as interested in chris sales record today a day. Keep him over. Keep you keep it moving. We keep the patriots actually failed at something keeping moving or hit. The brake hit the brakes. They attempted to switch danny link from quarterback too wide receiver. I thought it was gonna work. They have a lacrosse player playing wide receiver but guess what it did not work at ling was waived from the team jalen. You think about this well. We can't say didn't didn't work. Maybe it's roster issues. They're trying to clear space ford. Josh gordon gordon if he gets clear to some point of the season we've seen them make multiple players. Transformed positions still be productive. Do not be surprised if if there's an injury that they bring baxter gets to do that was another good at it. Moving on brittney griner is not happy it debris britney griner was suspended for three games because of her involvement in this kerfuffle under the basket you can see greiner mixing it up so here's what she did though she's upset because not only does she miss it three games she misses those checks and she's saying that she's unfairly singled out singled out by officials and by the league it has to pay fine after finance refine and the mac salary to play in the w._n._b._a. Is like one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars value but it's around that she's she's upset about the fines. I think this is unfair. What do you think mr rose. One of the major issues that the w._n._b._a. Would need to figure is when a player of <unk>. Her stature can make the dollar figures that you just acknowledged to plan a w._n._b._a. But makes seven figures to play overseas <hes> as long as dynamic exist and it was really exposed by diana to rossi a few years ago by her deciding her choices and how she went about doing her business. There's going to always always be this level of autonomy that the lady should have this says as much as i love planning your league of canada doing you a favor. She said she's not playing for the money and she said she's barely getting paid this summer because of all the fines and suspensions. She's basically like i'm. I'm just doing this for the love. I guess for the exposure you're it's unfair. Moving on we have more bad news for serena williams. Keep moving or hit the brakes arena yep it the break serena withdrew from the western and southern outhern open citing a back injury jalen. I don't want to say this but i'm gonna say this. Have we seen serena win her last major turn of course not absolutely not not and i still appreciate her greatness when it needs to be on display and she shows that here recently but again for her dropping out of this tournament to me doesn't signal the end because i've seen her be great this year already <hes> and i've seen her go away. Have a baby come back. It'd major so you never know. Moving on cowboys defensive end robert quinn is upset. Keep it moving hit the brakes. I will like to hit the brakes on this. We're at the brakes because the cowboys got a few players. That's dealing with contractual situation appealed his two game suspension for violation of banned substances substance. He disagrees with the denial denial. It was a i don't have in front of me but it was a very hard word to say something. There's a masking agent for performance enhancing drugs so that goes to a your initial point so somebody takes a masking agent. <hes> get two games. Someone deflates football's or do would golden tate did as it related to what he was taking. A fertility drug gets foregin. Don't worry jalen. Rose jaycees gonna fix all of this okay. Let's he's gonna fix all of this door. Moving on pamela anderson is involved with an athlete being let go by their team hit the brakes and the brakes the guy. I believe i'm saying that right. Masai soccer player a deal rummy marseille soccer player. Excuse me marseille. I've been corrected in my ear marseille. Sorry sorry i don't speak french. A deal rami is being like obama team. He said he was injured. He could not participate with the team but he went on a reality show. It was mud wrestling <hes> while well he was getting over his break-up from baywatch fall in <hes> of team player said he couldn't play but then was on on a reality show mud wrestling. I'll cut him so fast as head to spend. How do you say say mercy marseille. I think most people play c. French claiming that me you can't see me at least please. We got a pair of sneakers casey old. Four twenty thousand dollars cezanne zion science zion breaks okay eager to love zion zion sneaker sold for twenty thousand dollars. Which sneakers did you imagine that they were the ones that exploded but these aren't even those these are the ones that were warned in the maui invitational against san diego state why are people by science sneakers for twenty thousand dollars when they're not even the ones that exploded loaded well. They're trying to anticipate zion going on to becoming an all time great on the floor as well as salesmen off of it and that number can elevate avai or decline based on the pelicans record and his productivity. I'm spending twenty thousand dollars for shoes as i am or the best have a hole in the side. That's all i know they'd better cornerside blew up. Just like i agree just wednesday everybody welcome to the show we celebrate. Hey lady <music> the more intelligent more responsible harder working better looking more disciplined generally responsible perio- are you better hands jeter feet of our species ladies and we do so by taking only female voicemails just like this one ridge. Hey jalen and jacoby. We'll be out reg reg. This is has to be like my eighth voice not less and you just are not putting on <hes>. My name's jamie dorsey for big in california and i have a question for regional cultural so my husband and i've been married for about four. We'll be together together for about fourteen years. I look like jacoby. My husband looks like jay lin and i like to have dinner ready between five thirty and six o'clock however my husband always throws a fit and says that's too early. He likes to have dinner about seven seven seven thirty and i always say well what about desserts and he says people that look like cam do not eat dessert. They eat dessert with their dinner. So i just wanted to know is having third and eating at a certain time cultural or regional <hes> keep you mean the people what we want next time jalen is. How can we have michelle beedle on as the co host <hes> she is amazing. I love her on <hes> on with <hes> the a._b._c. <hes> n._b._a. Eight show so can we get her on jalen jacoby. I heard her leave. A voicemail mice. Before was the cultural regional so let her be co host. She doesn't maisy aw thank you. Jamie bigshots you first of all beatles the best cow best on the planet so much shame waking up at four in the morning to work on the show. Ah jiang can be on the air at seven one on the west coast but we'll ask her. I always say get the no. We're beggar when we go to l._a. To do that show yeah exactly we'll do that is family and i'm glad that you definitely shop very clear jamie. If you're preparing dinner you man has no right to complain about winner this if you're making if he wants to have dinner at seven eight o'clock you can make your own dinner. You're going to heat up the dinner that i made but if you make the dinner you decide when the dinner is <hes> ooh. That's just a fact so along. Have you been in a committed relationship with your lovely wife pool two thousand to two now seventeen years did she say how long have they been seen years. Okay very similar so yes. Your point is valid that if she decides to cook ah eat at six and he doesn't want to eat until seven thirty heated up later got in the microwave him do because i hate this somebody to cook looks a lot now. Put my food in mccoy oven put in that respect him up if you put it into michael microwaves. This is only if you're in a hurry like i'll put some chinese food in there. You know what i mean but if you have like some low main- throwing a pain heated up like everything's better heated up her outside of the mike doubt about it no doubt about how many times google tower microwave works but he but but here's what we can't get away. What about microwave work. I've googled how a microwave works probably ten times in my life. I still don't understand. Can you explain to people how microwave works jalen rose not perfectly but i'll just say how the the lights the infrared rays are what make your food get hot. Fast not really has something to do with heating heating up the water like there's watering your food in the microwave heats up the water back believe. I believe that's what happens. I have no idea i've been many times secondly secondly. This is one thing i wanna talk so coach regional eating dinner early so it's important to eat dinner together. You don't wanna hate away. That's very that's fair joking about preparing s. six nice when you like it or seven thirty. What i hear is a happy medium. I'll watch l. Start to try to eat. It like six or seven split the difference. Nobody deal also since together. It's eating at six. It's not cultural. It's not regional. It's not universal medicinal julia's what is parental idiot sixes parental when you got kids dinner starts creeping up earlier and earlier i got another word scheduling a lot of times people get off work around four or five scher hunter you get home at six. You're hungry if you logic to. You don't wanna eat dinner at six. If you noon you want. Here's what she doesn't want. She doesn't want to be cooking and eating dinner at six him going to happy hour from six to seven thirty and then coming home and that's what he wants to. He did that's why he wants to eat dinner. At seven. He gets off at five thirty. He wants to stop somewhere. Watch watch jayco. We'll have a couple of komo with a little smile. I gotta address the desert thing to die like cladding remembering that up because i want to talk about that as well because i don't do dessert either well. You're just not what a sweet guy. You're not a sweet guy. I'm not that's you. That's personal. That's not that's not cultural regional correct but i like i do. I do adult beverages and i do wind so to me that services my dessert. I'll say this. I like a long break between my last bite of my dinner and my first by discern sir. I want an hour. I want an hour and a half because i do eat early. 'cause i'm a dad so i'd like to put the kids to bed. You know what i mean. Get everything settled. Sit down in front of my below deborah editor marina. You know you know how like when you started that sentence. Just don't just don't just don't just don't just don't sound like a structual orients. It's jalen rose not like wobbles speaking of which happen you don't know if people trying to mix benign name and strawberries the chocolate syrup love you don't mix food and sex sexy sexist great buddhas great food and sex don't belong together. I have to say this by the way do whatever you wanna do do whatever do whatever makes you happy. Whatever makes your partner happy like. We're not here to be the fun police especially especially about six but i have to say this. This is really needed. We talked yesterday about if we could get a lifetime membership shift to a chain restaurant or i'm not gonna pick mcdonald's you pick more than i don't eat mcdonald's a lot of talk a weekends sausages hotcakes cheated but i'll if i wanna have a chain for the rest of my life also steak and lobster want to be able to get some some some martinis okay not at the same thing as it goes back to this top. Enjoy your bedroom behavior or the living room in the kitchen back porch in a hot tub in the bathtub in the shaw. Whatever you want to keep the food in the kitchen showed out of it. Kick the food and the kids seeing this stuff on social media. He got lettuce and he got all of this stuff cucumber controversy customers food below the kitchen. Yes allow your meal to be a part of the entertainment and you want that to be a little foreplay then you know we'll probably add to the fashion all the hobby ons. You know that type of thing you know get the candles. Maybe get some vicky secrets or he do what he does a without we keep the food in the kitchen. Okay when you get done to get cold belongs in the refrigerator. It definitely don't belong in a bit strawberries. No no exception ah no except to use them physically. I mean to use the aesthetically. It's good to have them next to the bed. Eh on the on the dresser you know rose petals lost trump get fruit. Mostly trump is his land on the dresser so so so so so so so. Maybe we're talking about a difference in philosophy that we may need to address. Maybe not no. Let's do maybe not get back divorce. Not mom a little later later on. You know no no so so stop. Stop stop the line this of course course you can have things on the dresser your beverages maybe water juicer t you have your don't don't underestimate some some chocolate cover strawberries. Some good old fashioned whipped cream. You gotta put that somewhere. Jacoby got having on the dress but you don't but here's here's when you know i just so how about that. Here's when you don't if the performance is so fast that it won't matter jalen that's when you don't you just leave it in a refrigerator. Could we address the most important part of jamie's call. She call eight times. I think on one she called at-at she said the eighth voicemail. She's left. Jamie set. You love voicemails now. There's a film in the works hooks reginald reginald shout reg. You can find them on twitter. He does listen to all the voicemails. Let's not boys males. We gave him specific instructions directions. If it's a cultural regional question save it for the television show when we do a cult original segment. What's he doing culture originals in red hot. How can a young lady recall when we're dying for people to call on wins aw nine eight five eight zero jalen. Leave us a voicemail right now. Maybe reg edge. We'll put it on the show. Maybe registered on the show. Do you know why didn't you know what she probably had to call eight. Times is that because you've probably been getting a raise my that's how you get in the shot. Oh ooh let's give regio promotion taxes. You know what i mean to work and so he needs a mike as as it should be because if i was rich and my voice was the board and my mug wasn't on television. I'll you're doing the same thing that's why i was the person that initiated if you wanted to be on the pot got shot rich. That was the motivation so i would hope in her eight calls in defense of my brother who turned me onto ways that spin have one or two he he has like fifteen or sixteen. She got a shot of my whole jamie. Thanks so much for the call. We appreciate the love jamie. Amy we appreciate the support. We are taking all female voicemails here on women's wednesday. Let's take the next voicemail jacoby a big big fan so my name is data and i'm from houston texas <noise> have a cultural regional question <hes> it cultural or regional to makes your scrambled eggs with grits and also set already shut out by jada zeta houston wants to know is a cultural region mixed your scrambled eggs with grits. That is definitely regional anything. Involving grits is regional high agree. Chris bury regional donald gregg regional in itself. You know what as a mid westerner to spend a lot of time in the south eat a lot of grits and i purposely said s i owned you f the south question. I just realized this idea regrets are. I don't know what they what they we are. The corn and i have no idea what grits are made love them antiquated. They're a little bit of bolt. You just say i don't know okay no. There's a little bit about okay. Well taking a look up. What grits are and tell me about your question for. You is very important. How do you how do you prefer your grits to be served. Well usually if i'm eating grits that means i'm also eating eggs and some breakfast meat yeah so they could be served served together eventually. They're gonna get mixed in one way shape or form directly indirectly. Y'all going down the same place. Chris is a food made a dish of boiled cornmeal cornmeal grits corn. I like my grits with butter but i this is cheating but i love shrimp and grits. Oh yeah love like a a nice louisiana shrimp and grits with the cajun seasoning and everything oh god recipe. My mother-in-law niece made the best shrimp and grits. I've ever had my own life. Thanks so much for the call jada in house tin appreciate you to call the housing so we call it new york. Let's listen into another female horsemen tie jalen into kobe. It's patty from seattle. Bring back our sonics. I have a question for jalen. Tingling is a swimming in basketball shorts regional or cultural. Thank you for the call appreciate the patty swimming and basketball shorts is one one hundred percent culture. No it is i'm gonna tell you hip hop culture. Okay okay. I'll buy that okay which which blurs color lines there are people who embrace it and embody like yourself. It looks like you there are people that also look like you that don't so hit hit. The don't get fired topic of the day rich slow day. They don't get fired the topic of the day you know i stopped wearing basketball shorts swim. You walk out of the pool walking up stairs account at the ladder. Look down just straight up. See my junk like you straight up the pool. I looked down. I was like this kids around here. I think i'm breaking the law right now. This is indecent exposure on kgo swimsuits all is that is that a humble brag on your junk. No no no no no. That's not what i'm doing. I'm just saying like it was just it was just it was really you know how the fact that you don't never swan song is asking in like some thin thin still know what his there you use one of the words i do and here's what you do is anyone you've ever seen wearing. Basketball shorts. Get out of the pool was the person they do. They gotta pull it away for to get unstuck. That's why i started swimming grown. Here's what i'm not trying to violate young children's well. Here's what airbus manipulate purpose so like if you saying you're at a hotel need to be standing at the front desk have you basketball shorts sure say that you want to jump in and out of the vehicle or run on and off jer whatever you're doing all purpose one jump in the pool ooh their pajamas to their best short pajamas all presidents while sure to go the store in that's what sorts you can playing bass shirts. If you get the right pair you can even go out with some basketball ashort. Hey they can't go clubbing bass ball sort you cannot do that. Don't even talk about it. Let's just move on well to-to jalen. Ah jalen rose don't do it. Stop yourself. There's the don't get fired topic of the day. I don't want you to get fired. I love this show. I don't want to cancel. I've got three young children and this is easy for whatever you're about to say. Don't say is easy. Don't say 'cause. I australia's probably don't allow don't wear shorts don't do it. They shouldn't didn't but i think they do. How how can i went to texas. I've been to florida. I've been to georgia. I've seen adults. Adults in these establishments was short song. Reggie hit the brakes. I got three kids. I can't get this show cancel but the without we're done nobody the answer but no those implants not fifty percent of the people at the strip club are having no ready ready for this. I'm gonna take you d box score at this outrage. Fifty percent amid strip club have this comment. Oh no jogging pants what i hope. We don't get kids they do do. I want to thank all of our female voicemail levers. Thank you so much. I also want to thank you for listening to your voicemails. You never really can't jamie called eight times and finally got on the on the bank that shot him. I'll each time that definitely means that right. He's not listening to the voice. Tasty shouted him on at least leave us a voicemail ninety five eight zero jalen really as much leave a voicemail to see if reggie listens to him. We'll see we'll see. We are preempted the next few days. We'll be back on tuesday with another dope pod to step to was that garrett in my little guys. I love what i do baby.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Mary Kay Cabot and Paul Schwartz (03-13-19)

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"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Brian Bruno live on the scene of a recent windstorm here to describe the event chest of drawers, there's a storm howling outside. So I thought I'd stay in and watch a rom com. Five minutes into the flick, a tree branch slams through the window. Where are you hurt? I just got scratch on my chest. Your chest of drawers can't help you in a windstorm. But the guy go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Call gyco to see how affordable homeowners insurance can be broadcasting from the Mercedes men cake. This is Dan Patrick. Welcome to the program so much to talk about I was asked yesterday. Why do you continue to do it days? Like this. There's so much going on. If I told you a week ago. These are some of the things are going to be happening. You're going to get a jazz fan. He's gonna get banned for life from a game for in exchange with him, and Russell Westbrook. You got the situation with the jets? They brought in Levy on bell. Odell Beckham junior gets traded to the Cleveland Browns. The FBI investigating celebrities as you got at athletic directors. You got coaches who have been fired there's indictments and there's a whole lot going on here. And we're only in the first hour today. Welcome to the program, Dan in the danettes, Dan Patrick show. We say good morning to our radio and TV partners. Of course, the great folks at direct TV audience that were channel two thirty nine doing the great work every single morning and our three hundred sixty radio affiliates around the. Country will check in with the Browns. We'll check in with the giants. We'll have more on have they put a gate to this. Usually when there's a controversy, then they add the word gate to it admissions gate. Yes, polling the FBI has dubbed it operation varsity blues, and that's really sticking people. Love it. Okay. All right. So operation varsity blues web more on that. And really the university. Hardest hit by this is USC and more on that story coming up Pat forty from Yahoo sports on loads on USC and some of these other universities from the sports angle of this of coaches risking their jobs their reputations decorated coaches because they were going to get a kickback. Also, we'll have more on the situation with the fan who was banned for life from Utah, Jazz games, and the Russ I guess he's going to file a lawsuit scenes been following his social media, this guy and. He said, go file a lawsuit against Russell Westbrook. All right. Have a poll question. I believe coming up played the day coming up a couple of stats of the day. Got an unbelievable stat on the Lakers coming up, but just when you think the NFL off-season can't get any wilder the Browns and giants deliver to Walker Tuesday night, New York trades odeal Beckham junior to Cleveland for draft picks and safety Gibril peppers now. Remember Jay Glazer said this a couple of weeks ago. He said just letting you know Beckham junior for the right price is, you know, they're open to takers. And then he I think he reiterated this earlier this week where he said, no, he's if for the right offer you can get odeal Beckham junior Beckham one of the best receivers in the game. But when you dig a little deeper, I guess it's easy to see the logic. The Browns adding unique playmaker. You got Baker Mayfield. Okay. A year ago at this time, you looked at the Cleveland Browns. And you said what? You you just had to Sean Kaiser you get rid of him. You didn't have anything and you bring in Baker Mayfield. And then you all now look at what's happened since. Then like, oh, by the way, they got Kareem hunt. They got Jarvis Landry who's reunited with Odell Beckham junior. Teammates. Myles Garrett is very good Cleveland Browns. I just saw this guess who's Super Bowl? Odds are better than the bears colts. Chargers. Texans raven Seahawks in eagles. You're Cleveland Browns. They went from twenty five to one to fourteen to one to win the Super Bowl. But you know, I started to look at the giants, and I go, okay. Wait a minute. Didn't their GM say when he took the job that he wasn't going to trade Odell Beckham junior that that he didn't come in there to trade Odell Beckham junior. And that's exactly what he did he lie. You got a thirty eight year old Eli manning in there. So you draft saquon Barkley you let Landon Collins go, so it's really hard to understand what the jets are doing. And then are the giants are doing the jets. I love what the jets are doing. They brought in lady on Bill and that is a great security blanket for Sam darnold. Darnold in his second year. This is why you could bring on bell in because Sam darnold John his rookie contract. So you have about three years to make this work by then is Brady retired. The is loaded up. I would have liked it a little bit better. If they had kept Anthony Barr who decided to go back to Minnesota defect. And I said it yesterday. And I firmly believe it today if you sign Levy on bell, you'll get the patriots attention. I think they have the patriots attention that doesn't mean it's going to work out for the jets because the jets used to get in the jets way, but I've got Sam darnold. I've got lady on bell. Who you could argue one way or another is going to be rusty or is going to be fresh because he didn't play last year, but to have that security blanket for a guy who can catch eighty balls is really valuable for a young. Quarterback the defense. I know we got a new coach who's not proven, but he's an offensive minded guy. And I like what the jets have done. Now police said how about a poll question? The jets had a good day or bad day. The giants had a good day or bad day. The jets had a good day. We're talking about the jets and something positive for change. The giants had a bad day because it didn't work, and I thought with Odell Beckham junior we might look at that contract and say you don't want. They got a bargain, and it's not gonna work out that way, you trade him to the Cleveland Browns. The Browns had a great day. You give up a first round draft pick and Djibril peppers you bring in Odell Beckham junior. So I got Landry Beckham Kareem hunt. And Chubb like my skill positions. I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. I can match up with anybody. It's pretty impressive. So you got wide receivers tight in couple of running backs. And you got a quarterback coming off one of the more decorated rookie seasons in NFL history. What's not alike? Mclovin. You got a poll question for me today. The program brought to you by truecar man. I'm fired up today. Truecar shows you what other people paid for the car you want. So you can recognize a good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car, visit truecar and enjoy more confident car buying experience. What do you got get throw it out here? I don't think this side of the glass agrees with you on the giants and jets. Okay. What you think the giants had a good day yesterday? Well, I think when you said that everyone's like, yeah. I I don't think the giants were going anywhere without L Beckham junior's. So I don't think it was the worst day. I think it was this. What was going to happen knew that this was going to? It's not like he just became a distraction. Yeah. And you have all that dead money. But you signed him last year though, it was terrible last year. But now, it's like, I think there was such a fatigue with what's going on with align. Odell all okay, Seton. Can you play? Dave gettleman. Dave Gettleman is the GM of the giants. This is February twenty seventh when the GM said this I'll say this. It's a repeat of what I said at my postseason presser we didn't sign Odell to trade him. Okay. So I know that's all over the place. So understand that. And that's the all any to say about that. Okay. No. You need to say a little bit more now. That didn't take long. So you you come in you, keep ally you draft saquon, and you have Odell Beckham junior. You better you better get Dwayne Hoskins here because Cuyler Murray is going to be off the board. And if you're going to do in the model is they want to look at ally as Alex Smith and then Dwayne Haskins or Cuyler Murray, probably Dwayne Haskins in the role of Patrick Mahomes. See that sounds super exciting. What you just said. Yeah. That's really exciting. If they if they get the next Patrick Mahomes L, they're not getting the next additive. No has got a lot of Patrick Mahomes at him bigger not getting Cuyler Murray. If they have to trade seventeen they got the seventeen pick and six to get up to three to get Dwayne Haskins. I have to admit that's a little underwhelming. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like what the giants did. Because I thought I've got a great running back a great wide receiver and all wide receivers are diva just varying degrees of diva nece. And then you keep allying you're going to play one more year Haskins learn at his feet, and then all. Of a sudden he's your starting quarterback as you move forward. I know you can find running backs, and I know you can find wide receivers. Now, the league is littered with teams who have been able to do that. There are certain players that are just more special than others. And you trade it away a special player. No del Beckham junior. Yeah. Mclovin. We also actually I'm with you on the jets you sell me on the jets yesterday. But this side of the glass was skeptical the jets because why do you pay for a running back in today's NFL because you can you don't have to my quarterback doesn't cost me anything. And what can I do? Now. I thought that they would have gone after an Tonio Brown. But if you're not gonna get Brown, then Levy on bell is probably more dangerous from the standpoint, and you can catch eighty and he can rush for fifteen hundred yards and he's relatively fresh. He's younger, and you, you know, you're taking a chance there. But I think this helps Sam darnold that he can have a running game. And I can have you know, this. Safety valve out of the backfield to help me. And that's what you're paying lady on bell to do. We're loading you up. I hope you got your rest. I hope you get in shape. We're loading you up in the number of touches. He's going to have will probably be record setting. If he stays healthy this year, the amick Lavin one more poll option who wins the AFC north. You know, the ravens got rid of their defense. That feels like they find people. I don't know if you find a Terrell suggs type player who's now with Arizona wet. Oh, you'll find another safety. It feels like they find defensive backs CJ Moseley they lost. Now. That's a bigger loss to me. I think CJ Moseley, but the ravens have this way of just sort of keeping it ugly and keeping it close. But do you believe in Lamar Jackson? I think that lasts playoff Gant sort of exposed that offense isn't great. That'll be the key is I want to see you know, is there improvement by Lamar Jackson because if defenses have already figured him out as a rookie. Then you're in trouble. Because you sent flacco pack is Cleveland the team to beat it feels like it. It does feels like it. Now, you might look at lady on bell going to the jets and Saturday, he's not going to the Super Bowl anytime soon. And he could've stayed. He could sign with Pittsburgh. He could play one more year. Maybe get a chance to play for a Super Bowl. He's in a big market. He's got a I guess a rap career. And so you can go into a bigger market. Maybe capitalize on that. With Odell Beckham out. You know, that's another thing. The jets sort of loaded up, and then you know, the giants basically took the wrecking ball to the franchise here. Yeah. Okay. Any chance the giants made this decision based off the past couple of months with how levian bell Antonio Brown handled. How they wanted to leave a place and said we don't want to have our dog wagged. If you know what I mean, Odell Beckham is that kind of guy who may do that may say I want out outta here. Here's how we're doing it or del Beckham has missed has played fifty percent of the past two seasons. Yeah. Because of injuries, and they said, all right. We can get rid of him. We're going nowhere with ally. Manning we've really gone nowhere with Odell Beckham. We've got this young running back. We'll get ourselves a quarterback and a first round wide receiver in the draft and everyone move on. And these. Will be cheaper. And what we're all. In for being two years down the road with young players with shorter contracts, lesser money contracts. Will you said you weren't trading Odell Beckham junior. I think the okay, so I got allies salary. You still got odeal Beckham junior salary on run on salary real ugly, year and a half. They have a head of them. They may say themselves. We don't wanna be Antonio Brown here. And we can get out of it. Now before he starts wagging the dog midseason saying I'm going to sit I'm going to rest, my ankle hurts we could do it. Now while there's a decent offer out there. I didn't think you got great value here. Probably not. But they controlled it. Yeah. But then what's to stop the next diva wide receiver who comes to New York? It's not like all of a sudden, hey, we got rid of Odell Beckham junior. There's no more divas that could possibly be in our franchise. But if they take the kid Metcalf out of ole miss they have four years until he can be even ask got the other one the jets they paid a lot of money for a Twenty-seven-year-old running back, even though it's it's less than you, think market value. I'm okay with him with taken a year off. He's twenty seven I can get three really productive years out of him in that three year. Period. Are the patriots different is Tom Brady retired. At least the jets try that. I mean as a fan, if you're a jets fan, you're going just I want us to be relevant in Baker Mayfield made the Browns relevant now, all of a sudden the Browns go, you know, what we got our quarterback. He's on his rookie deal. Let's go out cream hunt. Doesn't cost us anything. We already got Nick Chubb we traded for Jarvis Landry. And now we trade for Odell Beckham junior. Come get some name me a team that has better skill position players right now than the Cleveland Browns. And I'm sure they're on the shortlist here. I mean, the Rams but you got Todd Gurley. I don't know what's happening with Todd Gurley. And the Rams receivers aren't Odell Beckham in Jarvis land. No, they're not they're not chiefs. Chiefs got an interesting mix guys. Well, actually know them running you're running back, although the kid who came in at the end Damien Williams already good. Yeah. When you got wide receiver and tight end, and you got a great quarterback. Your quarterback is better. Your tight end is better your wide receiver is is probably better than the Browns. Yom, mclovin. The one unknown is Freddie kitchens will be a first time head coach. So that's a lot unknown. Yes. It with all that talent. Yeah. I mean, he seems to be a real smart offense an offensive minded guy in there. Yes, paulie? But aren't you? I guess I am I should say I'm philosophically opposed to ever paying a running back. I would never take one in the top ten of the draft up fifteen of the draft because it's too expensive like Marlin MAC. I know you gotta find him. Marlin MAC is gonna make like four hundred ninety grand next year for the coal. But you'll have to understand the colts have one of the best GM's in football. Right. Maybe the best GM in football. Maybe the giants jets at hiring. They show. I guess I'd say like Kareem hunt is gonna make six hundred and forty five grand. Which is basically almost the minimum. Nick Chubb doesn't make anything for the Browns. I I'm philosophically opposed to ever got Kareem hunt on the discount. A cheap because what happened off the field. But if you just keep drafting running backs in the third and fourth round one of them work out, and you never pay, but how many are special how many running backs can give fifteen hundred yards in at least eighty catch levian Zeke Elliot Todd Gurley and are all first round guys higher draft. Yeah. And I if I get somebody special I don't wanna pass up on somebody special. I think saquon Barkley special I'm in the minority. I said I would've taken saquon Barkley, but I also would have addressed my quarterbacking situation as well. And maybe, you know, maybe there's something different there with the giants this year if they would have done something like that. Now, you're waiting for them. Okay. We're rebuilding or basically rebuilding. Yes. Mclovin. Three of the final four teams had first round running backs through that sat out because this the patriots Sony. Michelle the Rams had girly ten the saints had Mark Ingram. He was a I wrote kick tell that he was on the basically on the bench. Now, he's did you see this as by wayside latavius Murray? Yeah. There were so many signings. Like that yesterday. I'm like this guy is going like d Ford went to the Niners. How did I told you when I said I thought he was gonna get traded to the patriots ago. No they franchised to and then he gets traded to the forty Niners. I knew he was there was a chance of getting traded. I'd hurt he was going to maybe go to the patriots. But what do you do now with the forty nine or sit at number two in the mock draft, and they were gonna take Nick Bosa Africa Murray where at one and you still take Nick Bosa. Yes, or I trade out. Absolutely. All right. Mary kay. Cabot? Who covers the Browns will join us coming up next. Man. What a great gig. It is to be Mary Kay cabinet covered. The Browns now used to be like, I'm sorry. You have to cover the Browns Paul Schwartz who covers the giants New York Post. He'll join us coming up later on this hour. We got a stat of the day play of the day. Great Laker stat of the day. Coming up NCWA bids northeastern northern Kentucky fairly Dickinson, North Dakota state and Saint Mary's shocking. The zags of guns aga- last night. All right nine hundred after the hour. Just getting started, by the way, one hundred thousand votes already on in three days for meet Friday songs. Thank you. We're having fun with it as well. But it's serious business. We will stop the voting for the round the thirty two on Thursday. We'll play a couple of songs just to remind you of how great they are. And we got some really close races. You can only vote on the Dan Patrick show app. But so far as of last night, the French. In the back said one hundred thousand votes so far coming up on twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. It happens to the best of us right before a big deadline or just when you're printing handouts. 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The all new GT four door coupe because life is a race vizier local dealership for a test drive today. Mclovin. What's the poll question? We're going to go with I think we should go with was it a good day for the giants. Okay. The first part of our one and then our two with a good day for the jets this to see what people agree with us. Because you say it was a good day for the jets. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And you say it was a bad. You lean battery kind of middle road on what the giants are doing right now, if it's a total rebuild I want to know what they do in the draft. Let Ben I can grade this a little bit better. I know what I have. No del Beckham junior. I don't know what I- Djibril peppers is a nice player. I believe he's a jersey kid so playing for the giants, and what do you do with these draft picks? I just you got ally. Manning that conundrum can drive somebody as Eli going to play. Again, this year are you in it to tank, and maybe look at to a tongue of I lo and next year. And I'd like to know a little bit more with that game plan is by the time. The draft comes around the Browns gave up the number seventeen overall pick third round pick. They got from the patriots and safety Gibril peppers and they brought in Odell Beckham junior. Mary Kay cabbage. Got a good job. She gets to write about a lot of fun things. Browns beat writer for Cleveland dot com. Cleveland Plain Dealer any negatives. To this initially the reaction Mary Kay. No, I don't think. So I mean, I think Browns fans here are ecstatic over the moon about this. And I don't think anyone is crying with the Browns gave up. I mean, they gave up a number seventeen overall pick that, you know, maybe they could have used it on a decay Metcalf or a good defender, but why not go out and use that on a superstar receiver that really helped take Baker Mayfield to the next level. And maybe maybe even catapult this team into a Super Bowl before too long. You know, I looked at the odds. The updated odds and Cleveland really jumped up there. I think fourteen to one to win the Super Bowl, which okay that might be a little bit of a stretch here. But I'm looking at the skill position players for this team Mary Kay, and they rival just about anybody in the NFL right now if I look at running back both wide receivers the quarterback tight end situation. That's a lot of pressure on Freddie, kitchens coming in there as a first year head coach to make all this work. You know, what I I don't think Freddie, is is looking at it like that. I think he he's very aggressive. And I think he's looking at it as though now he has even four weapons to power that high flying offense of his, and if you look at what John Dorsey is doing he's really basically kind of duplicating what he built in Kansas City before he left there. He's got his own Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield. He's got his own Opie Jay in you know, zone tyrant kill Opie. J he signed Corrine hunt who's going to be a big big part of this offense. Once he comes off of his suspension. So now you've got an offense that should be able to rival the Kansas City's then New England's the Rams and the like I'm saying. Where they are in the division. You know, Pittsburgh's loss lady on bell and Tonio Brown. We're not quite sure what to expect out of them ravens lost their defense. But they somehow find these pieces to fit him in there. And then you got the Bengals. So the class of the AFC north is who. Well, right now, I I would have to say it's the Browns. I think that this trade pushed them over the top into the strong contender for the AFC north north. I think you're looking at a week in which Antonio Brown left the Steelers at the same time the Browns added that blockbuster star receiver to their lineup. So now, the Brown hair there to killer bees and Beckham and Baker and the Steelers lost to there's in bell and and Brown. So I would have to say that the Browns would be favored to win the AFC north. But you know, whenever you have been Rothlisberger on your team. I don't think you can count out the Steelers that is a smart organization. They know how to draft they know how to add players, and and he always can work up a little bit of a fury for the bounce passing on him in the draft. I'm always curious when a store luggage traded that you know, there's jubilation we got somebody. But there's a reason why. The giants traded him. Why do you think the giants got rid of OB? Jay, why you can look to you know, some of the interviews that he did last year where he criticized ally, he criticized the organization he criticized the coaching staff, and he complained about, you know, not being able to get the ball in the ways that he wanted to and contribute in the ways that he wanted to. I don't think Pat Shurmur came in there. And appreciate it the way that that Odell behaved, and you know, Pat Shurmur was here in Cleveland for a while. And I know for a fact that he just doesn't tolerate the kind of stuff that that Odell did there. He you know, he got got into it here. Pat Shurmur did Joe Haden a few times, and you know, he he just doesn't mess around with that sort of thing. So I think those guys clashed. I don't think that helped at all. I think a change of scenery is exactly what is needed for Odell. And I think what he really wants is a quarterback can get him the ball early and often. And I think they will do that. I'd love to see the Browns on hard knocks. Wouldn't this be an unbelievable year for them to be on hard next? But I will tell you they will be all over every kind of via that you can think of it is going to be a circus here. The likes of which you know, we really haven't seen. It was nuts when Johnny Manziel was here. But this is going to by far top that. But how does this compare to the frenzy that when LeBron LeBron came back to where the Browns are now to football town? And I know LeBron coming back in the possibility winning a championship. But can you differentiate between the two? Well, you know, I've been saying, you know, they lost their LBJ and got their own joke. But and fans are are so excited about that. But I do think that this still is a Brownstown, and I think that there will be even more people at the parade in downtown Cleveland, if the Cleveland Brown, I could go out there and finally win a Super Bowl and do with his longsuffering Browns fan have been waiting for so many years, I mean is larger than life. But I do think that the the Baker Beckham combo is going to rival that. You got a good gig. Mary Kay got good. John. Well, I've weighed. Time to roll. Thank you. Mary kay. I know you're busy. But we create your time as always. Mary Kay cabin Browns beat writer Cleveland dot com, then the Plain Dealer, Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by Mercedes AM. Jay, if you miss any of our interviews this week from the Mercedes, AM G man cave. Go to the Dan Patrick show app. You can watch and listen from inside the Mercedes AM G man, cave Mercedes, aim g driving performance. Yes. Paulie, you mentioned that the Browns could be on hard knocks. But that's that's like a what a five or six weeks show preseason, you know, Amazon has that show all or nothing where they go the whole season. What are the Browns founded partner like Netflix or anybody who ever may be and said we want to do a year long? Even there are rules about hard knocks. I don't think you can have a rookie coach on harden. I just sent out the story NFL dot com has the five teams that are eligible this year. I don't know about the Amazon show the policeman do that turn the whole thing around asks for a big check like go to net flicks. If you're the Browns right now, do what? Amazon did with Manchester City, and they did it with Zona cardinals. Just give them all access with the Dallas Cowboys. What about a new outlet or someone I guess Amazon has more money than anybody? But say like we want to start this now. And I mentioned the teams have the right to do it TVD like that. I'm not sure what on in Dallas too. I think that all goes in the league pot. I'm not sure any TV money goes. I would imagine if I can't cuss ideal. I wonder if a group of players could do that face your Mayfield Odell Beckham Jarvis Landry at all the the five of six top guys started production company and do their own thing. It probably have less rights than the team starting. These are great. Yeah. Of the five teams by the way for hard docs, giants raiders, Niners Redskins lions who do you want to see out of that? The giants the raider raiders. Oh, yeah. The raiders would be awesome. Yeah. Last year in Oakland. Yeah. No brainer. But you want to save the raiders for Vegas though. You do you do and they'll likely be eligible still. The giants. No, no. I don't. I don't wanna see that the lions you imagine he li- miked up there. But usually hard knocks has nothing to do with the star players. It's always those guys who are on the periphery maybe making the team we're going to be cut. We'll check in with the giants will talk to Paul Schwarzie covers the giants for the New York Post. He'll join us coming up got our poll. Question phone number's eight seven seven three DP show, Email address TPS, Dan, Patrick dot com. Mentioned the NC. Double A bids from last night, northeastern northern Kentucky fairly dickens, don't North Dakota state Saint Mary's out of that whole group. They're all Cinderella stories. You're going on. Who's the Cinderella story? I don't who's going to be the Cinderella story of March madness. Feels like you're going to have about ten Cinderella's here. By the way, D Ford was traded to the forty Niners. They'll and that's a great pick up for them. Fritzy has provided us with mock headlines on leafy unbound. Got a little bell on a little Beckham. We were we were having such a great day. And I'm gonna bring it all down crashing halt. The bell toll you-know-who is cringing right now, Seton Satan O'Connor. I blame you, Dan. This is your fault. You I how come all the rest of us can ignore Todd's emails, but you can't well because he keeps sending it. And then I keep opening an and it's the same damn Email Yupeng actually, Dan Totta step stop, sending the mock headlines to the entire group. He just sends them directly to you. Oh, I didn't know that you're not he keeps us off. That's right. I'm the only one on this. I can actually hear scenes is role. Pig when I've sent these righty here is fritzy's mock headlines is this lady on bell is this the jets and giants. Dolan won two hair. Here we go. Opening bell jet stock rises with all right? Lady on Shelby, a good man in New York. We shall be leave on the Elton John. Yeah. No. I know. Say maybe I'm not gonna say rush to judgment, adding Belleville guaranteed jet success. If you could check with polio must have used much to judge many times in the Benton all bark OB J ready to send Brown's north of division. Maybe all bark. No by trying to tighten it up. No. That's really tightened up. All bark. No bite. That's it. He cannot the humor. Yeah. Kiss an Odell Cleveland welcomes Beckham with opened on. That's not good kissing Odell. No, it's not good. I kiss Intel. I got it. Once again, if you have I cut. Playing it. Then I cut you off or movers and bakers Mayfield and company ready to win now. Terrible scowl Steeler fans furious over less of Brown and bell and James Dillon. One and Bush league Dolan offers. We gets nation for behavior. Gotta stay on one topic. Opening bell jet stock rising area, you should have stopped there. Just the only one your sandwich. A legitimate headline gets the stock exchange or maybe you have beyond Goto the stock exchange to ring the opening bell. Totally should do that closer to the start of the season. Thank you. Todd and welcome. Yes michaela. I the headline for Todd's headlines, and it's tied to the news. Odell Beckham junior will join tight end David no Joko Joko. He sang Mok idolizer funding. David no Joko out of Miami. Yeah. Maybe. David no joke. Oh, I'm pretty good though. I walk off. That's probably anything. That's not difficult. Todd surely not kissing Odell. We're in feeling. No. And you know, we shall be Levy on. I was a stretch. Well, yeah was. Yeah. My song and Elton John's got a bio-pic coming out rocket, man. But such great energy in the first segment. You did you did. Well, you do what you do. Well left. Turn was kill. There's buzz light year your buzzkill. I Pol thank you gave an shot. You should put a turn say Llamas new desk, and he has to when he's gonna absolute turn into oncoming traffic. He has to hit it. And I got to get him a new desk though. I keep promising the back row suck it back road that I'm going to get them new death. Mclovin. He's been a real good sport in a very small area for a long period of time. I wouldn't mind a little privacy to in this new background. What does that mean? I don't know. Maybe just a little like a late when sometimes I just need to be away from this Todd. But I don't know how I can. I can have a wall. They're like I can box you in. If you want that he wants like a brick wall like a war where we see each other through like a like a plastic hike to fund this wall. Oh, I can I can afford this. I can afford this one time to take a break. We got play of the day stat of the day coming up here. And we'll check in with the giants right after this. Everybody's got it to do this. 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They visit Toronto tomorrow night the cars in just when I needed courtesy of the Lakers television network check in with the giants coming up play the day play the day brought to you by the great folks at dollarshaveclub. How did you get ready today shower Komet, your beer, no matter what you do Dollar Shave Club has everything you need and right now get a Dollar Shave Club starter set for just five bucks after your starter set product ship at regular price. Get yours at dollarshaveclub dot com. All righty. Paul Schwartz covers the giants for the New York Post kind enough to join us on what has to be a very busy day. Maybe surprising day initial reaction to this Paul. Well, Dan, free agency hasn't even started yet. I guess we can't talk about any of this. Right. Nothing's official by initial reaction is very much apprised. I wouldn't say shocked just because there was so much buzz about a possible deal. But let's face it. When you trade away a mega superstar like Odell Beckham junior. A great player. I mean, no one questions the fact that he's a great player, and he's not old and he was signed to a contract. It's it's got to send reverberations around the whole organization, and this one certainly will. I guess I'm wondering that you go five and eleven or another five and eleven season where we're we're the giants maybe made aware a little bit quicker with what happening within Tonio Brown that this was going to happen with Odell Beckham junior's. So let's get in front of this before we're behind it. Well, there's no question. They looked at what happened with Antonio Brown. And so that the market just completely evaporated for a great receiver, you know, a better receiver and a lot of people's minds then Odell Beckham, although he is a bit older. But yeah, I don't think Dan. This was a case of the giants thing we have to trade this guy. Let's put them on the market. Let's see we can get you know, I felt all along they would have to be blown away not shopping him. But fielding calls. They would have to be blown away in a deal for Beckham. And I'm not sure if this actually qualifies as blown away but a first round pick a third round pick. Any a good player a good young player and safety Gibril peppers is light years better than what the Steelers ended up getting. So in that way, the giants struck while the iron tot, but I think this was a case where fans will have to decide whether this was being actually blown away in the trade as you. They move forward. Would you rather have the Browns future of the giants future? Well, look, there's no question the Browns. I think are the hot it team in football this year. I'm not saying they're the best team. But no the Browns future is tremendous. Now, they had a lot of salary cap money. They have a quarterback going into a second year. They have Odell Beckham whose only twenty six they have, you know, just a slew of of of tremendous talent and an array of defensive and offensive players. I think if you would talk to thirty teams in the NFL, the vast majority of them would say I'll sign up for that roster. The Browns have right now. All right. The strategy for the giants in the draft is going to be what? Well, we have twelve picks. So the strategy is going to be probably getting rid of some of those picks. I still think Dan right now sitting here the giants have two first round picks. Now, a six this number six pick and the seventeen pick. I don't think it number six they go for quarterback. I mean, I just don't think at this point. They looking at Dwayne Haskins and saying he is our guy that has to replace ally. I could be wrong. But that's not the way I'm thinking right now. But after trading Odell and presumably I assume bringing you manning back for his final year and his contract. I think they have to get the next young quarterback on this roster. Whether it's at the seventeenth pick that they got from the Browns either it's maybe getting the guy in the second round. Or I still think the Josh Rosen scenario was fascinating and won. The giants must at least investigate. What do you think? It would take to get Josh Rosen. Well, they don't have to give up their sixth round pick. And I don't this number six pick in the draft. And I don't know if they would have to give. Up the seventeenth pick. But now they do have a second first round pick. They can give up at seventeen to get him. I would try for the second round pick the number thirty seven overall. I don't think the cardinals are going to be in a position if they really want to take column Murray at number one. They gotta take what they can get for Josh Rosen and just admit they made a mistake on him and move on to the female quarterback who they coached seems to love. So you know, I would not give up a ton for him. But if I can give get him for the number the second round pick. I would do it in a heartbeat because I think the giants liked Roseanne last year did the jets have a good day yesterday. Oh, yes. I mean, the jets only in New York could the jets eventually come up with levian bell and not make the back page of the New York Post. Right. That's what Peckham kidding sent away. Does. I mean Levy on is a short fire, slam dunk back page and it happened late and it happened after all Dell got traded. But yes, the jets look, Dan, we know what happens in free agency the teams with a hundred million dollars are going to spend spend spend they going to be the big winners in the middle of March right now and often in the short term. It is a big win for those teams in the long term not so much. So, but yes, the jets have made a bunch of good moves. They've improved their defense. And you know, Levy on bell improves every offense in a league except maybe ones with saquon Barkley Todd Gurley. Good stuff, Paul. I know it's busy day. We appreciate your time. As always anytime, Dan. Thank you, Paul Schwartz New York Post giants beat writer. Yeah. I think the jets had a great day. But. Leave it to the jets where they bring in lady on bell. And they don't make the back page of the tabloids there because this is all about Odell Beckham junior leaving. Yup. On how happy is the Knicks owner James Dolan with all this. He did an interview yesterday. No one's talking about it. Yeah. You saw him with Michael k, and I don't know like, but I don't know what else is there unless he's punished by the NBA, he's still a bad owner with a bad product. And let's see what happens in the lottery because if they don't get Zion Williamson, I mean, RJ Barrett's a nice player John rant nice players. But if you don't get Zion. All right sort of still the Knicks. And I think he got a better chance of getting some of these free agents if you zone Williamson yapping who is the biggest sports star in New York right now, Aaron judge. Yeah. Other anyone else? Nobody on the giants. No one on the Knicks. No one on the nets. No one on the Mets Sam darnold probably to by default. Just because of young and promising you maybe that's yeah. It's bleak. Now. Little parched. Dry there with celebrities New York like everybody had a celebrity. Everybody was his star all the famous people are in Cleveland. Yeah. Or they're in Hollywood trying to get their kids into college. Yes. Mclovin. I was gonna say the Jacob degrom is that Syndergaard T-Bills sent down. Oh, yeah. Tibo couple of text here tweets here cynical one thousand nine hundred eight to the situation with Antonio Brown. Scare the giants GM they go five and eleven again OBE Odell Beckham junior wants out wouldn't have the same kind of value. Shouldn't the giants trade for Josh Rosen? Feels like that Scott a little bit more steam there. I think you're gonna have a couple more teams involved in the Josh Rosen sweepstakes because cheap and I got that rookie deal. If I'm the dolphins. I look at this. If I'm the patriots. I look at this. And why wouldn't you have the giants look at this as well? And you can trade that high second round draft pick and get Josh Rosen. All right. I'd feel a little better today. If I was giant spent I don't want to Wayne Haskins because I don't know if he's the kind of quarterback that you can say here, you go make a scrape. March madness is upon us. And Dan, Patrick has you covered. I probably wouldn't do the hat because I don't wanna I don't wanna mess up the hair. Join Dan and the danettes as they keep up with every twist and turn in the NCWA tournament on the Dan Patrick show every day here the hottest takes and the biggest celebrity interviews from the world of sports and entertainment, says hockey and competent as Baker Mayfield. 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Were almost you know parallel to the ground like they it was blowing really really really hard but we ended up playing only ones on the course another time I played at another course called Waterville wonderful underrated course and and you could see the storm coming in and we were on a par three and my caddie said he said getting the bunker I couldn't understand him because he was speaking Gaelic and he said you know basically getting out and I went no. I'm on the green and he goes get locker. We got in the bunker lying face down in the bunker as it started to hail. It was just like got up. The entire green was full of Hail. I had to take my hand and brush aside the hail so I could have my so. I left my golf ball on the green and I had a Birdie Putt that I missed and I just you know move. We did the two-putt rule since you're putting sitting around Hale and then the sun came out and it was gorgeous for the next two hours. It's that kind of strange weather but I love being in a place where you feel the weather and I know you feel the weather but I'm just saying that you like San Francisco. I love because when you get to town you just that weather you feel it. It's different same way when you're in Europe. Certainly when you're in Ireland and now or Northern Ireland there's going to be wind and there's going to be rain and instead of just saying well. This is a course that sets up for this Golfer. You have to factor in the elements. Can you play on these courses. Can you play in the wind. Can you play in inclement weather because normally golfers. They get the best of you know all conditions. It's normally you're playing in great conditions on a great great golf course manicured beautiful all of those things the the the greatest equipment this is different in Ireland and a lot of courses in Ireland and Scotland. They don't have driving ranges. When you show up you show up to play and I thought that was weird? I got the ballybunion and I'd like to hit some balls and they look at you like really no we go and play because they go and play and then they go home. It's not where you go and hang out at the golf course and there's not not condos around golf courses there it just a unique experience and they love their golf. It's fun. It's different the pubs everything about it really really enjoyed but you have to be ready. I'm not going over their plan for my livelihood. You got to embrace the elements because if not the elements will embrace you and they'll choke you are American golfers inherently at a big disadvantage of course it's like these or do they play enough over the course of their career. They know what links scoff I think with modern travel you have these golfers who played all over the world and a lot of them. You Know Brooks kept has played all over the world like He. He didn't just become this star on the P._G._A.. Tour he'd been all over the world to become this overnight sensation. They've all played on these courses. They played on Walker Cups. They you know they played on in different events college teams but it's still I think there's an inherent advantage for those who live live ear grew up in that weather because the weather is what surprises you the most you know the courses. The bunkers are different. The fairways are different. There are times when you go is that in the fairway or not is it the wind or does it also with the cold and wet on gripping the club. Are I know it's both but I've never played golf win rain. It just win. You know you're near Canis always going to be able to have the you know the club dry but the wind is something that you just and you're hitting a lot of blind teashops. He shot where you go. Okay hit it. There and I remember having this canyon. I'm going he'd say hit it here and I go where he goes right there and then you hit it and you go oh okay and then you go over a hill and then you go okay. I was in great shape. You get in in a bunker and you go. I can't see out of the bunker and then you have to hit it backwards. It's it's fascinating but I like that. It's not necessarily man made it was sort of created and they did the best. With what the elements were there and this'll be a lot. aww Fun Royal Portrush these spectacular golf course all right eight seven seven three D._p.. Show email address DP. Dan Patrick Dot Com twitter handle at D._p.. Show or questions sponsored by MAN VERSUS FOOD ON COOKING CHANNEL UPDATE poll results mclovin so I asked our listeners and viewers most likely to win the British open of our five first round picks <hes> so <hes> we had books kept the Royal Rory mcilroy Dustin Johnson Tiger Woods and Andrew Schlafly Brooks Kapka seventy percent in an and then rory then tiger than zander than Dustin Johnson less. I mean that's that's a statement well. I figured everybody was going to take Brooks Kapka. I just don't know I I'm not that excited added about him on this kind of course if you said you could just bomb it then I'm you know Brooks Capco but this isn't a course you don't. It's not the guy who bombs it. You really navigate here and you you take your medicine. Sometimes you go forward. Sometimes <hes> sometimes you to say I'm GonNa Take my punishment here T._B._S.. Is Your home for baseball on Sundays. Watch the Colorado rockies. Take on the Yankees Sunday at one eastern only on T._B._S.. 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Oh screed damn flag okay thirty downtown possibly an exhibition plant move back everyone give them some space. Okay got a little craft. Return lunar were later we were going to land on the moon to NASA is me NASA. You're okay. It's not bad it's so bad it's good this is space center sports and we'll wrap it up. We would have done that in Linda cones voice. This is space center. What I WANNA talk metric Rangers vanbiesbrouck come on? It's in the news okay Kevin mcreynolds. Just go the big tank theory. Did they really walk on the moon. The Big Bang theory people say it never happened Kevin mcreynolds. You know what we're going to talk to Howard Johnson and Tim. I'm tougher. It's going to be okay all right done with Linda thank you people weren't happy with the Commissioner of baseball former commissioner Bud Selig yesterday when he joined us on the program because they were or bothered by the fact that the commissioner was bothered when Barry Bonds became the whole time homerun champ in paper saying it was under your watch that he became the all time home run king here is the commissioner on who he considers the all time home run king you know bonds. I'm told to record and I said records- records. I thank you know how I feel about Henry Aaron. So Henry earns the all time home run king in your opinion. Yes twitter reaction Paulie very anti bud see like they're like eight. It was your fault this happened. This is what twitter says you were overseeing this. You let this happen. You never instituted testing. Why are you complaining about who the Homerun King is now when you had the chance to stop it when you were commissioner he he didn't have a chance is to stop it with the Players Union though that's what people think he didn't right because that was that's the strongest union in sports and it was impenetrable? He was not able to member. Only five percent. Were dirty remember but that's silly staff that came out where we're but you know <hes> Listening Fair Don Fehr Donald Fehr said five percent are dirty and you really it was probably ninety. Five percent were dirty and here's the commissioner. Why would you allow testing with your players who could get caught and it would also prevent from getting higher salaries so the players association and had no interest in really protecting the integrity of their players and their numbers because why would they? They don't want anybody to get caught and they knew that these numbers these numbers are based on a different generation all of a sudden the third basements hitting forty five home runs and you're going hey but he he did something. Mike Schmidt didn't do and then you go well then he's worth this kind of money and all this money. All these salaries were based off previous generations where you're going. He had a better year than Mickey Mantle well then he's better than Mickey Mantle or you gotTa pay the guy that was part of the problem too so the player association benefited these players benefited the salaries went up and nobody was getting caught. It very few got caught but but I think the average baseball fan thinks that in the nineties the commissioner wasn't tough enough and didn't put in a testing program and he couldn't in other sports. It seems like the Commissioner has that power. If Adam silver wanted to do it it would get done if Roger Goodell WanNa do it to get done. They make up commissioners listeners less than put guys away. It took jazz really think that there's strict testing in the N._F._l.. Well how long did it take for them to just test for H._D._A.. Right fears they've they've been doing steroids in the N._F._l.. Sincerely seventies but baseball but nobody cares baseball fans actually care about the records others yes yes but nobody cares if an offensive lineman with the steelers is using steroids they they just didn't care but ah the commissioner. Yes has more power in the N._F._l.. And the commissioner in basketball has more power but in baseball the commissioner did not have more power than the players association did not and it's it's the one thing I'll stick up for bud ceiling and that is I know that he couldn't do it and that's why he started doing it in the minor leagues that's where he was getting testing across all platforms in the minor leagues but he couldn't do it in the major leagues. Yes mclovin. I gotta be honest with the fans I know you're saying that and I believe you but I feel like if you're the commissioner you gotta be able. Could they have given up something else to get that he was he was I think he was not thrilled. Go because I don't want to. I don't want to paraphrase any conversation I have with the commissioner but the fact that Congress got involved in this it took it out of his hands. In then it was a different you know so now somebody had the power to ask these questions and you're putting these guys on the spot on Capitol Hill and you got some of the best TV that we've ever had the most awkward uncomfortable unfortunate enlightening moment that baseball has ever had and <unk> Jose Canseco proved to be true correct honest in his book even though we had a different agenda because he thought he was blackballed but Mark Maguire curt schilling didn't say anything curt schilling who never has a moment where he's saying something had nothing to say Rafael Palmeiro pointing his finger. I mean it was crazy and after that then I think people realized Mark Maguire was not here to talk about the past. I was in touch with his representative right before he was. This was gonNA take place because we we I was told got a game plan. We have a game plan here now. I don't know why you needed a game plan if you didn't do anything wrong so you don't need a game plan. We gotTA strategy. I go okay. I'm all ears. What's it going to be you wait and then I watched and I watched mark? Maguire basically sink his career. I'm not here to talk about the past okay. Nobody is why would you hey. I'm only here to talk about. You know moving forward well before we move forward. Let's talk about the past so that'll help us in moving forward four but that was some of the more dramatic like that was real when you talk about reality TV that was reality T._v.. Yes mclovin does baseball have to act on this ball issue. Now quote unquote ball shoot a too many home runs and Burland or came out the all star break instead. This ball is ridiculous like if you're the commissioner. Do you have to step in. Yes as you bought the company. It's not like you're outsourcing to Rawlings and they make it and then they give it to you. You bought Rawlings so it's up to you to Ha- what is your integrity here. Maybe they don't care. I don't know but if you know that the ball is different. Are you going to do something about it. And what are you going to do about outed. How important is it that you do something about it because I don't think people care about records anymore? I mean I'm watching cody bellinger. Have this unbelievable season or Christian Yelich. Mike Trout might be having his best year ever. I don't know if anybody cares about this. You know they care that bellinger's having a great year yellow just having a great year trout's greater but I don't think you're going you know what are his numbers is splits and compare them to somebody else in the previous year or decade generation. It's just he's having a great year. Okay if you don't have a great year now like it's hard not to have a great year. If you're a hitter and the thing in the New York Times article few weeks ago they alluded to the fact that the company that makes the baseball's Rawlings is just getting better at making them and their equipment is centering the ball so it's got less drag well. You don't let that happen. You have to make sure that equipment doesn't get better your to announce it. There's an equipment change. It's not like golf softballs where every every year the GAULS get better and tighter they could make golf balls even better than what they are right they could they can make them go further that we learned about that. Yes yeah they can do that. They set their specific tour golf balls at callaway uses yeah. There's things they could do if they wanted to but it would be the same thing with the club you know with the driver if they want to they can yes but all sports have changed their by mean tennis right now as an issue where they say the balls are heavier to slow down the servers like baseball's changed. How many times is baseball changes over the years probably fifty to one hundred times so it's isn't that part of the game that the baseball sized changes and well? I think I think what will happen. One day is is you're gonNA have like the masters will have their own golf balls. So when you play Augusta you play our golf ball and then therefore we know what what is capable of doing that. Maybe it's a little bit more restrictive but you're playing golf ball on our course. I don't know if other courses would do that but that way you at least control it a little bit baseball. You've made a better baseball okay now. What do you do about it and they have to be honest? The commissioner has to say look the numbers are up and here's why we made a better baseball. Now it's incumbent upon us to be able to troubleshoot this or we just going to like. Is it fair to the pitchers because the ball is in better for the pictures you know the the seams aren't raised to help the pitcher. There's nothing they did for the pitcher. So why am I penalize housing these pitchers because their salaries are based off of of what kind of numbers they put up how long you pitch how many innings which you're e._R._A.. Meanwhile these hitters we've helped them so you you can't have it. Both you know that's what they want but maybe they still. I think the kids want these home runs. Is it fair to the pitchers just want sports. It's about selling tickets not about being fair to the defense then then say that then the commissioner needs to say we don't care about pitchers. We only care about offense in hitting if you do that okay at least you're honest here because the elephants in the room and you know what he's hitting opposite field home runs on check swings if it's widely considered in sports the hardest thing to do is hit a baseball. Why would they make it even harder to hit a baseball to why like why would you help the pitchers? What no you still hit it? It's how far it goes. That's why when people always say you know. These guys aren't on steroids you know they're they're. It's so hard to hit the baseball. No when you hit the baseball goes further. It's still hard to hit a baseball. It's we're going to give you a little bit of help here when you do it. We're not helping the pitcher at all you know because they always talk about the balls or slick in the seams aren't raised there. There are let me take a break. We got florio coming up. I got a couple of football questions for him and we'll get to your phone calls as well. 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Dan I'm actually sitting on a poker table here and <hes> Hawaiian Gardens in California where it's all from where it's all happening action twenty four hours a day one of the ads for some of those poker questions for okay okay. Number one if you don't turn off your hand and lose on a bluff you're not blessing enough at least that's what the book says so that's kind of a rule that you guys were talking about and as far as tells go <hes> they're just there every not everything someone does. Is it tell how touching their chips after they look at their cards or after cart hits the river you know and it's especially true with the most popular games now which is <hes> you know <hes> Omaha or five card Omaha the call Bingo but Bud Selig he comes off as a creepy game this you know that's the way most people I mean you know. There's a reason they hired kennesaw <hes> Atlanta's yeah as the first guy because he had nothing to do with that and when bud but feel it wasn't owner for so long and then he transitioned into that position of commissioner. It's like the it's like the we all knew at the time that it was like you know the putting the Fox in charge of the Henhouse and that's exactly what happens so when he comes on your show and he becomes an apologist for that era <hes> it's like totally disingenuous. The guy would like to sit down with and drink with Dwight Eisenhower. He has some good stories about World War Two and some good stories about eight years when America was tied of power love the show and <hes> just remember Dan Dan just push all in if you're when in doubt okay cash games all right well. Thank you nick nick a pro poker player. I just don't think you should be able to wear sunglasses or headphones. I Dunno and let's level the playing field and I should be able to see what you're seeing and listening to what whatever you're listening there yes mclovin. Do you think you could tell the Danette tells fritzy would be a horrible poker player the worst yeah. I don't think he would be good <hes> sweating all the time. I don't know if that dribble sweat would give well no because in the morning when we come in and we started talking and polio ask a question and then you know Fritz you'll get ready to answer and Paul go no save save it for the show. Fritzy can't save it for the Shell and then he just keeps going. He just keeps talking full House that more. I Bet I bet Mike Florio Co host a pro football talk live profootballtalk dot com kind enough to join us <hes> Mike according to your report gronk according to a source of forty percent chance that he'd be coming back to play with the Patriots. I'm curious. If that's if that's up from like thirty percent or is that down from fifty percent or down from one hundred percent yeah I I think if anything the trend is toward wrong being inclined once the game start then once he sees the train role on without him getting that it's the question is well. He's scratching and I think the most significant and thing I was told yesterday about wrong the idea that is talk radio at some point picks up the phone and make a direct appeal to to come back that that could be the thing that pushes it over the top and we know how the Patriots tend to struggle early in the season. We've seen them slump. Relative fits their usual standard through September from time to time. You've got a lot of transition in the receiving core and maybe Tom Brady gets sufficiently exasperated after three or four weeks that he does make that phone call to grow what will say if it happens and I think it's all to be determined hermit because we don't know how gross feel when the regular season starts and most importantly. He doesn't know how he's GonNa feel until the regular season starts running back salaries is always an issue you know and we're trying to figure out their value and how do you pay them commensurate to what they do for a team or what they mean to a team. I don't know if there is an answer to that but you were talking about. Zeke Elliott might be holding out Melvin Gordon might be holding out Labianca Bell. I don't know if these the anomaly or he's the trend here where we going with running back salaries well. Here's the problem with running backs especially guys who are taking the first round because you got that your option which delays their opportunity to get to the open market for the most part the team gets the maximum performance that anyone's ever going to get out of that running back in those first several years of his rookie contract so they wanna time comes to pay them. The question is is he gonNA keep playing like he has is. Are we paying him big money for the downward slide of his career either because of one specific injury or just the accumulation of wear and tear and the guy goes through touch the ball twenty twenty five per game per game over the course of a sixteen game season season and and it's hard to find that sweet spot and I think that's why it's smart that Ezekiel Elliott is taking a stand now because if he waits another year or two two more years his rookie contract expires. Nothing keeps me cowboys doing the him what they did. The DEMARCO Murray Bill Murray finished his rookie contract with a franchise record in single season rushing yards he led the N._F._l.. Rushing like how we see you later and he went and signed to the Philadelphia Eagles so I I think that the key is while you are still at your maximum level of output find that moment where you say I want my money Gimme my money Chris Johnson did that with the types in two thousand eleven I think Melvin Gourds overplaying his hand. He's not truly special running back. There's a small handful at any given time have a truly special running back Elliott is still that he needs to get paid while he's still falls into that category because whether it's one or two years three years and it was a girl and a year ago he was one of the special bath now he's not because of that needs problem. It can happen quickly so you need to take a stand. Get paid while you can't. We'll Dak Prescott Zeke Elliott. Amari Cooper will get paid in Dallas this year. I've always got to be difficult to tell through and they're going to have to really do some creative. Thanks to the salary cap and and I think teams have more freedom they would admit under the salary cap to make things work. Sometimes they just don't feel like making it work. They don't feel like finding a way to spend the money. Don't feel like going to ten different veterans and trying to create cap space that way you really WanNa do it they can but I mean the problem is cooper. Oppressed ordered it to who are due to be freezing next year. Elliot's got two years left and the cowboys could kind of hope to finesse this where they could wait on Elliott. If Elliott pushes this thing to ahead. They're going to have to let either poop or Prescott play out that rookie contract and let both play out the rookie contract and you can only use a franchise tag on the next year the other one's GonNa get market value somewhere the N._F._l.. Floated the idea of eighteen game schedule. I've heard <hes> seventeen games might be a better option. Maybe there's <hes> added playoff spots here but you know when there's money big money at stake here then I throw logic out the window so where where where do you think things are going to stand when this season starts with the possibility of an eighteen game schedule in the near future well. I shot that there's an collective bargaining agreement place before the start of the season. I just don't think it's practical now. The players have some leverage as it relates to getting the things done to start the regular season or at least that agreement in principle and they'd be wise to find a way to use it but they really have leverage on the N._F._L.'s obsession with expanding the regular season whether it's eighteen right away whether it's seventeen for awhile and then eighteen. I think the N._F._l.. Is Determined to do and the one thing the N._F._l.. P._A. has done incredibly well Dan. They created the impression that they're just not interested. You're talking about poker. Fish has the ultimate poker face understanding the regular season 'cause they. We don't want it. No we don't want it. We don't want we don't want it and I think at some point with the N._F._l.. Is going to do is make the N._F._l.. P._a. an offer they can't refuse and I thought people say well the N._F._l.. P._A. Should ask for this they should I don't ask for anything we don't want and and you change Armand and if you eventually put something on the table that changes our mind so pierre but we don't want it and and I think it's a hell of a lot of power and we'll see if the N._F._l.. Ever makes them an offer that they truly can't refuse but I think that's the way they need to play it. That's the way they've been playing. It and they're putting themselves in position to really get a significant amount of money to agree to expanding the regular season. I think it's a matter of time so be N._F._l.. Makes that type of an off but when you're saying you know the answer is no and that's what I was told that it's absolutely know that there's no way that the players union is gonNA take an eighteen game regular season schedule but is it just money. Is that the one thing that you can get to these players than could you. Could you say we want contracts guaranteed well. Here's the thing about guaranteed contracts. Keep this in mind. If you guaranteed contracts there would be no N._F._l.. Contracts longer than three years and most of them would be one year or two years. You'RE NOT GONNA sign a quarterback to a six-year fully guaranteed contracts because what if come <hes> four. He's no good you're stuck with him so the Vikings they got a three year guaranteed contract with cousins. Did they really WANNA tear up after this season but they're not going to be able to do it so shorter. Contracts will will be what happens and that's it for the players. Maybe shorter contracts are better you get back to free-agency sooner instead of being caught on the back end of non-guaranteed deal that gives the team all the power but then I think terms like a short path to free agency right out of the gate three years instead of four years <hes> you know those are the kind of terms unrelated to money the split up the money between ownership and the players that get the attention of the N._F._l.. P._A.. Expanded Rosters would be necessity if you're GONNA play eighteen games how many roster spots are going to be any again negotiated. It probably the players they. They've sold everyone on the idea that they don't want eighteen games so we thought we absolutely positively on eighteen days until the moment we decide we'll take eighteen games because you made us an offer between money and roster spots fought and pathway to free agency and whatever else the N._F._l.. Feels compelled to throw on a pile visit can game schedule that they so clearly want one more item. Let me circle back to Ezekiel Elliott because you know I I know Jerry. Jones is just desperate for that one one more super bowl and he's GonNa take do whatever you can to get this done. I'm just surprised that Zeke what kind of leverage does he have two years out to say that he wants a new deal as opposed to and given what's happened in the off season is in in troubles that he's had like why am I act we asking to him two years out because Jerry Jones desperately wants to win the Super Bowl because Jerry Jones lived through the Emmett Smith situation in nineteen ninety three when he <unk> out into the regular season the cowboys lost the first two games Jerry Jones caved and then the cowboys became the first N._F._l.. History to start over to the super bowl so the the blueprints there and Elliott Steven Jones was on p._F._C. Live live with me right after the draft and we talked about the timetable for Elliot Steel and he said Ezekiel Elliott is the straw that stirs our drink okay well then you gotta pay them. You gotta pay him before these other guys and that's the other reason why should take a stand out pay attention. You know what's going on with the offense in Dallas there Kelly the coordinator. They're GONNA make off. That's much more dynamic and creative than it ever has been. Maybe a year from now. It's more about that Prescott. Amari Cooper is about Ezekiel Elliott this year though is still go about Elliot and now going to Elliott. I think it's the perfect time for him to take a stance. Jerry Jones is desperate to win because the offense still goes through him. He's still a straw that stirs the drink. They may have a different strong next year. So now's the talk to get that Straw pay because look I'll go back to the early if the rams would never give talked early now the deal they gave him a year ago. They were early in his people. Were smart to get the deal that they got what they did because one year can change everything for a running back and that's why as you take that stance thank you Mike is always we appreciate your time talking to you. Mike Florio Co host of pro football talk live profootballtalk dot com yeah. It's an interesting situation and I understand and what Mike is saying about the cowboys because you're offensive philosophy most offensive philosophies in the N._F._l.. Have to do with your passing game with Dallas. That's not the case you know. They're a run first team and that run sets up the pass but at what point do you become a pass first team and then how valuables Ezekiel Elliott to you. He's got two years left. I I would say to him in good faith. You have your usual year. You don't get injured. You don't have how many problems off the field the injury you can't control. We don't have any issues here then you'll get your contract. I can't give you this contract now. Because I have to sign Amari Cooper. I have to sign Dak Prescott but you have my word whether you believe that word or not but that would be the approach that I would have to take. I just I two years out. I can't sample but any chance Ezekiel Elliott looks at Lady Annabel and thinks lady. I'm bell did it right Zeke Elliott's three or four three years younger. If he holds out for one season he doesn't take that toll on himself and eventually another team will give him that contract well. He's still is under contract for another year right but they don't want it to your holdout but does he want to years. Way doesn't make any money and no no toll no injury risk. I would run the I would roll the dice if I were the cowboys on that but if it was one year then I get it. I understand it. I don't know if lady on lady on bell is going to be the anomaly van left fifteen million on the table. Zeke Elliot will be leaving three point three million on the table and playing this year yes mclovin yeah and then they got vander ash and Jalen Smith and all these guys gotta get paid in two years so it's it you can't wait. I mean well. You're you got two big ticket items here. Yeah you gotta deal with this already paid you got Dak Prescott and you got Amari Cooper right then if obviously if you weigh two years on Elliott resolve this calendar waiting two years. I'm waiting one year and I'm saying look you. You owe it to us to hear. We'll we'll meet you halfway. Here will will tear this up unless you're gonNA give me in-house discount. We'll do this now and we'll we'll give you a four year deal so the last two years and then two more years on top of that will we'll tear it up. We'll give you a new deal. You give us an in house discount and then then I'm interested in doing that but man I two years out. Nope not at that position. You missed any of our interviews this week from the Mercedes A._M._C. Man Cave go to the Dan Patrick Show App where you can watch and listen in from inside the Mercedes A._M.. G. Man Cave Mercedes A._M.. G driving performance will close up shop after this support for the Dan Patrick Show podcast comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken. Loans home is so much more than a house. It's your own little slice of Heaven. That's why when you find the perfect place for you and your family getting a mortgage shouldn't get in the way imagine how it feels to have an award winning team by her side through every step of this process. 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What do you have for me today? Yeah Dan thank you <hes> I agree with that one caller I I can't stand bud seelig either but the one thing that people always like to talk talk about the steroid era or the what about the amphetamine era which were illegal drugs that were commonly used by pretty much all major league players from the fifties till two thousand six what is bud ceiling say about how those drugs affected checked Hank Aaron and Pete Rose's all those other that they compiled over this year but I don't know who took those i. I know that they were there but I don't know if you can go okay because they were there. Everybody took them. You would be surprised is that <hes> maybe wouldn't but guys are still using greenies now and I'm talking about speed. Yes see didn't bud ceiling say yesterday. He talked about the cocaine era and he was just like when we cleaned that up pretty well. I kind of lump that into the amphetamine thing. I don't know if they're the same necessarily but it's like it's speed well. The cocaine thing was huge. When when you consider you add more key guys and you guys went to prison for that and I mean they got popped for that but yeah I know when it comes up to comes to steroids in the commissioner? And what role did he play in. Did he benefit. Did you know the owners benefit. You know gets into this same Cesspool in <hes> I dunno it's an abyss you walk into it and you never get out of it <hes> John Syracuse say John. What do you have for me today? Good Morning Dan five seven one ninety got a question for you. Gronk fewer ground what would cause you to come back to the game more losing the team losing or the team winning. If I had a chance to play for another super bowl then I would come back if they're losing then I don't I don't WanNa come back and be the guy who's supposed to come to the rescue there. He's been banged up so much. He's already established himself. As one of the great tight ends of all time is nothing left to prove unless he's bored unless what he thought was going to be there for a second career is not there then then he wants to come back. I don't know how that helps him with his second career by coming back but you can play one more but you know I would definitely do load management of Gronk came back where I just picked my spots at when he was going to play and how much was going to play but I don't know how he's wired. I we think we do with wrong but I'm imagining that Tom Brady's already said Dude. What's IT GONNA take to get you back? You know what do you want me to do and but I think you've got to be respectful to gronk wrong. It's not putting pressure on him because it's gotta be Gronk. Who Says I WANNA come back and whatever reason it'll be his reason to come back because I couldn't turn down? Tom David in Minnesota Hi David A._D._p.. 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Hour 2: Booger McFarland

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Hour 2: Booger McFarland

"So apparently former suitors are salty at Kawai. Let the shade began according to E._S._p._N.'s Brian Windhorst the Lakers feel as though Leonard played them throughout the process leading the team on knowing that he didn't intend to sign with them. The Lakers missed out on the opportunity to other players and free agency while waiting on the finals m._v._p.. To make his big decision the Lakers aren't the only team upset as the raptors were also less than pleased with Leonard Process before ultimately choosing to sign with the clippers words that according to our Guy Windy Stephen A co.. I play the lake show no he didn't they played themselves right especially the latest. Let me explain first of all. I don't want to hear anything about the raptors. Kawai gets traded their here from San Antonio before he got traded from Toronto he was trying to get to L._A.. Popovich Beaufort and the Spurs refused to do so they sent them out of the country for Granell. Okay Okay so that the Messiah Jerry New do I was taking a one year gamble and it paid off in certain respects because while delivered the championship okay and now he's a free agent and you knew the possibility. was there for him to be gone but you were willing to take that chance for the crown. You got the crown now. He got the crown and L._A.. Everybody's happy in the case of the Los Angeles Lakers. Here's how they played themselves. You have two of the top Bob players on the planet earth. I believe that Lebron James will we re establish itself as the greatest player in the world this year. I believe he will win M._V._p.. This upcoming season that's my personal opinion but I'll tell you this much he an Anthony Davis two of the top five players on the planet earth. What the Hell you sitting around wait for a while this basketball state football? They like you've got to leap players offense but you know what you got a wide receiver. The quarterback reviews wide receiver to run a back and walk Ziva or the quarterback but we need somebody on the spearhead defense like a Khalil Mack now. This is basketball to elite players in basketball with the right pot. Which is something that you've participated on many occasions in terms of framing a team is what you need to build a chip shit we watch and do it with himself and a bunch of marginal or better than marginal players around the loan superstar on a Toronto Raptors? There have been plenty of champions in N._B._A.. History that have had to stars and that's it you Lebron James and Anthony Davis. Why the hell you sitting around waiting? I understand you want because of who wouldn't want why. Why are you waiting as if the future of your franchise depends on it you know while you're waiting because you wanted to do everything you could to make sure he didn't land with the clippers because genie boss just months ago Max was out? They're publicly declare we worried about no clippers. Clippers ain't on our level. This is lake a nation Blah Blah Blah. We'll guess what's the Bomb Doc rivers Lawrence Frank Jerry West did hold on a second. This is a new day and lake a nation as a nation people go root for that purple and gold but make no mistake. We aren't coming and you better recognize that we are coming. We don't want to say marina which you anymore. We want to get something over there near the forum in Englewood I if James Dolan could get the hell out of our way so we can make that happen. This is what's going on the Lakers. Get the Leykis it up the F- feel they got played corralled Linnet Mac. It's because they were stupid enough to wait too long. When you had no business do it so because you supposed to be the Lakers acres Lebron and a deep? You shouldn't have waited there long. I don't think it would have mattered. Let me just say this. You know who Leonard is by the way before I even say it apologies to my friend. Jason Whitlock who have stuffy says is about like who's like a character in the wire so he may have said this. I don't know but Kawhi Leonard is marlow from the wire member Marlow when prop joe he was going to he was good about a have prop joe bumped dolf and proposition Joe tells them I treated you like a son. Member marlow set. I one made to play the Sun. Marlow took over Kawai. Leonard is marlow think of WHO said aw shucks. I treated him like a son basically gave impression Popovich pop isn't his name quieter best basically told them what made to play the Sun. No KAWAIS lost his father under tragic circumstances. Why had a father was close? The he's not anybody else's son right and Lebron James Kid yeah. I want to play the song no what he just did was. I'm not saying he said everyone off and played everyone. I'm sure he considered what my side of Jerry. Mary was selling you. GotTa take that man seriously you just WanNa Championship and ultimately it's Toronto. It's not L._A.. Where you from where he wanted to play I'm sure if it could be that if the clippers never got Paul George they couldn't swing that deal? Maybe he does sign with the Lakers. Even though that's not as priority is not as first choice twist. What could why did was in certain respects saved the N._B._A.? It started with Lebron James and the Super Team at Miami and all school folks lamented the fact that instead of seeking competition Lebron James seek to squash it right like to quite sought to put super team together. No it could be and then it was elevated escalated by Kevin Durant who joined a seventy two. We win team. No Co is not made to play the Sun Lebron anyone else that I'm a Lakers fan. I wished the Lakers would have gotten them. He didn't joined Lebron. James's team quite kick down the door in Lebron James's House and set up evenly matched super teams in the same building and said let's get it. I'm taking over. I wouldn't made to play the his son. Just did time people got the message did it that is a message is no question about it but he was willing to play that role of the clippers hadn't stepped up and one of the things you will both need to know for the purposes of this show and this is me put no oh my reporters had here people in N._B._A.. Circles are talking about this right now. allegedly the uncle Uncle Dennis buckled denizens. No joke was asking for a lot of stuff from other teams houses causes planes sponsorship guaranteed sponsorship money just as an example throwing this stuff out there all of those things off supposedly illegal in the collective bargaining agreement. I have no idea whether this this is true or not. I'm not trying to cast in the spurs on Uncle Dennis but people in N._B._A.. Circles are talking about this as we speak. Why is that imported because one could argue the reason why this story is out there right now about the Lakers and the raptors feeling play wasn't just because of what Uncle Dennis ask for but they're gonNA try to turn that around and Paulie that into a question about what the clippers give up gigawatt? Let it so in other words you've got teams. He's right now playing games with one another talking about trying to point the thing at the clippers less ask about what the clippers did to get Kawhi Leonard. I'm here to tell you right now. We don't care because we don't care is let let it is with the Los Angeles Clippers. He's not with the Lakers Raptors but I'm telling you right now in the days to come. You're gonNA hear more noise about what Kawais can't was asking for. Let me tell you what should many questions about the clippers gave I want to comment on that bomber who had reservations about as an owner when he joined the league and everything I mean when he was running when he was running Microsoft all they did was not make any products that any young people wanted to buy ever her and when he took over the team he forbade people from using ipads in the locker room and I thought dude if you would have made some products anyone wanted to us when you were running that company into the ground basically maybe maybe he wouldn't have to make that rules. I was down on on bomber and Doc rivers is a G._M.. One any good let me tell you something. This organization bombers proven himself to be a great owner so far with Jerry West Doc rivers Kawhi Leonard and finally I want to say something about Uncle Dennis. I was skeptical about him. I sat on the show many any time said it's called show business not show family uncle Dennis since he got volve quite Leonard was an underrated player quiet aw shucks kind of super quiet Leonard has taken over the N._B._A.. Under uncle Dennis's Denison guidance. You have to give it up. You have to give it up a pay attention to what I told you because again if folks taught targeted and stuff like that you never know what to fall out. Maybe you deserve get negotiate Lutheran care as they just said thicker than water that to what is the best debate you've seen here on. I you get the chance to decide but going on twitter voting daily in our tournament style bracket up I is our seven ten matchup and here's a taste of number seven K. D. A._A.. Top Five player. That's is durant a lock top five player. No Lebron James is number one to Leonard is the second best player three Anthony. Davis Definitely K. D. Not A._D.. Wrong jots please have the rest of the week off so I don't have to look at you. That is just the most asinine thing that I've ever heard of my damn life. Why do I have to talk to you about basketball? What the listen to you I'm not doing? I don't know what the subject is because the fact that does not let you say a word that place being disrespectful to the Greek freak were Kawai or A._d.. Or Lebron is all world talking about. He is all world world but he's not he might not be tough. Let's go it on everybody. I'm only chairman you're listening to the first take podcast. Hiring is challenging but there's one place where you can go were hiring simple fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates that place is ziprecruiter dot com slash. I take ziprecruiter since your job over one hundred of the Web's leading job boards but they don't stop there. 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You can get whiplash boxes full kiss you only WanNa make newsy basketball heating everything besides football and also told him that your favorite Person Very Athlete Your Mom Dad. What do you think when they work from day nine to five they go home and already doing worry about putting themselves? They were will serial numbers coming to you waking up all he had no TACO Tuesdays days. I'll be swooping singing all day. She'll go to act to nothing. Were kids. Billy's weight of singer so the thing is legitimate for me. I will be an airport on escalated one but this time working out for your Bra now he's dancing. I can do this to run down escalator running running working out not eating. Everybody look like I say coming you live for the Heineken river deck at appear seventeen jets running back leaving on with his critics on I G on that no two types of role champ Monday night football Anna's Booger McFarland in the building officially football season in my book. When we hear Yeah Jackson the part about Linda that's Joe Ages text me something very important obligated to mention this? He says providing additional value allegedly to acquire Leonard such as guaranteed marketing money as value <hes> you outside of the salary cap. It is called circumvention of the cap when a player signs a contract in the N._F._l.. The agent end the team have to sign a contract and state that nothing of additional value has been provided that is not disclosed in the contract. Same rule applies in basketball guys on that. What what's the first Monday night football game Texans at Saints Okay all right time to quarterbacks a feel better if it was New Orleans at Houston Houston on a row drew brees not so sure on to say but I mean we're GonNa Start Monday? Jimmy Petar Way to go boss way to Golfer. In Newark Texas look pretty good to me. Text is going to have a good opportunity they they need to build on what they did. Last year like the Shawn Watson is a very good quarterback he needs help. Tim Protect Him and they got the situation with Kleiner resolve to meet designing great player. They don't WanNa pay for some gray is he saying claiming I got cloudy. Good seats Sunday injuries throw out the word green and I'm like kick it off. Say cloudy good great to run cloudy got a lot of acclaim for the hit he made against yes Michigan when he was in college but if you look at today beyond Clinton and National Football League his ability to play the Ron the multitude of ways that they use him in Houston as a linebacker deep career Stephen aid his films here. It was nasty distracted us. I got excited about Monday night. Football football being back plus the video gentlemen video hype there right Max wide awake hyphen. Does he have a point you heard him and beyond say's not singing all day she was fantastic. The Lion King by the way incredible Levian Bell was the second round pick. He didn't hit the ground running setting the world on for like Ezekiel Elliott or saquon Barkley Todd Gurley high draft picks did exactly what you'd hope they would do right out of the gate yeah. This is the guy who had to earn everything turned himself into a running back generations. Maybe five years like when a guy in his prime if he's still is we'll see but he was the best running back in football by the way number one. It wasn't like he was one of the best do could split them out. Why you could play him in the slide he could run it out of the backfield? He could block. He was patient. He was a home run hitter. He could walk between the tackles. Like what do you want to do. We could do it too. How do you get to be that way? He's not the most fast twitchy guy he's not the guy with the most fast which she's not saquon Barkley. He did it by preparing himself. You don't just get lucky is God given talent that no you do it by your preparation and it's long been told to me through players in the League friends of mine colleagues who played eight in the game. They resent the fact that so much what they have to do is p._R.. Look at me but put on a face because they'll say there are players. Who Show you how hard they're working? There never messing around on the wilder messing around and there are other players who are working hard but you know what they're not ashamed if they're partying being sometimes in their off in their off time this needed to be said at some point by the way he said it was offended by the fact that you will come on national television and act like people opposed to those who party I I can assume we are not offended by the man party. That's number one number two. I don't have a problem uttering the word great when you mentioned beyond Sake Lord Have Mercy and oh by the way Mama knows is a fan hi. They say Mama knows mother knows that's right. She's wonderful once. I've only met one. She's doing his detail. Having you said all of that. Let's be clear Lebanon. Liane Bell is not right for saying it. His facts are right in terms of what he's doing for himself but articulating that message and I'm coming to you book with already talked to maximum this with his cheerlead itself is Dale. You Levian been suspended twice in your career. You've been injured. You got to money you held out for an entire season got fifty two and a half million dollars twenty seven million dollars guaranteed you go into a new organization like the New York Jensen. We've all and you've heard this not just me you know that it wasn't just football reasons and it wasn't just dollars cents as to why Levy on bell the steelers will highly reluctant to give them money it was trust issues. They had questions about whether or not take trust so because of the situation situation debt inadvertently otherwise you may have put yourself in the past you do have an obligation in my estimation to not just sit up the and say to us wait until you see me play because remember you come into the jets arguably. Here's the face of the franchise outside of Sam Donald you coming in. There is an elite running bat super bowl potential you any won a super bowl championship or anything like that but clearly you have bald in the postseason when you bald in the regular season last time we saw three hundred twenty one carries. He's eighty five receptions four hundred six touches. We get what you bring but the point is if you on owner and I'm gonNA give you money. It's not just your ability. It's not just a production. It's about whether or not you're trustworthy because as Max's articulated articulated on many occasions it's not about what you've done and that's it. It's about what we trust. You'll do floors yours to me. This is about perception in reality and the reality is we want our athletes or the people watch or the people that entertain us to do that. One hundred percent of the time and to a certain extent you guys are fall U._N.. You owe me because anytime something happens is in boxing or the N._B._A.. You can be on a tropical island undisclosed to anyone but she just pop up on everybody's screen. Here's what's going. Here's what's happening anytime. Anybody is suspended in boxing or something goes on here comes Max Kellerman this out of the blue because in our fans expect that from us they expect us to be on twenty four seven all the time when they entertain us what are the same goes for fans of sports in Levy on bail okay. He's a football player. I get what you're saying about suspense. Get all that but what I'm bill is saying is I have a life outside of football out posted several training videos. He's down in Miami with Bob. MARITO WHO's a trainer and they're running up and down the field. He's posting all that what he's saying is y'all get mad because I'm posting basketball and some of my rap leaders and I'm just not training twenty four seven media. I have a life outside of what does it might be the best athletes but let me on did dropping album at like one A._M.. In the morning I think I don't know what the reviews were on him but he did drop an album but we are heard about it but I did it wouldn't get on but it was one of the things that like I look at you cannot expect the people that entertain us or the athletes to be on twenty four seven is he right absolutely but in it's the perception in reality. I can't say it because people look at him in a situation and he came in off of Pittsburgh. Hey man you kinda ruffled feathers in Pittsburgh and he got yourself ran out of town and moved on and now all of a sudden here in New York you starting Stephen. I don't have a problem with the truth being stated. I've watched the show a lot and one of the things I respect about you to ins as you guys try all the time to speak the truth and I never have a problem with what he said was the truth of his disagree with you. I am not challenging the veracity of his words one voter what I am saying is there are a certain people would vote on their side who should shut the hell up because of the history in other words about sitting there if I'm sitting here right and criminal okay what I don't need to be talking the people about how they need to be law criminal shut up be happy jail trying to say credit apparently not a clue bill to I'm sitting saving. I believe leave him. I know he's a league. I got low for brother on. Just saying you come into a new organ. Do you might need to Zip it really prepare for your job every day every day card. I don't think anybody yet by the way I work hard. I prepare for my job. If you call this stuff work that's a separate debate but sometimes I'm GONNA allure. Sometimes I'M GONNA lose my voice. You've lost your voice. You've been sick you still show up play hurt but sometimes you won't be able to write. Someone's going to see you throughout late one night and be like Oh Stephen as burning the candle at both ends he's doing he's doing. I take sportscenter radio. Show this this covering the N._B._A.. And I saw him at the spot at three in the morning and then he showed up sick the next day and get down on you right the bottom line is you can have time sometimes absolutely right between me and him I would put out of video the next day our body of the night before aw clean same Chila towns are different and it's also important understand audience speaking to he wasn't speaking to me you imacs on social media media. That's comment him saying hey you should be training. You should be doing X._Y._Z.. Paying customers out yeah sometimes. They're talking crazy about. Some football. E._S._p._N.'s Dan Grazziano has been told by multiple sources that representatives for Ezekiel Elliott and the cowboys had contract discussions in the past two weeks but it does not appear deal as close rumors of a possible hold out by Elliott have been out there for a while but our cowboys reporter Todd Archer said Monday team officials plead Elliot will be at training camp by Friday phobic Farland still here with us great to have you Stephen. Who is the upper hand here? Is that Zeke or the cowboys. It really depends on how you look at it. I would say the cowboys I understand those who would say that the Elliott and I'll leave that to maximum book to do that. Here's my position. If I'm the Dallas Cowboys I got you locked up for two years. I noted the season as important okay but I'm looking at a better defense you've ever had I'm looking at a number one receiver. Finally full season not half the season then Amari Cooper like lassie's from Oakland. I'm looking at the return of Jason. witten slow it in a snail. I get that but somehow someway always open us when I say about Jason Wade somehow some way talking about the Security Lincoln and show your situation isn't even though he was gone from the game for year. I believe that's important Randall Cobb of that to receive. I think is an upgrade from Colby's leader alright. y'All offensive line. I think we'll be better this year than it was last year and I'm looking at it from this position. It's not that Ezekiel. Elliott is not the best player it's not that he's not important. He has not proven to be trustworthy. That matters to me. I got you locked up for two years with the trouble that you've been in the content you just let the commission off a few days ago when it was a right because because of some alleged transgression okay you got suspended for six games. You know a couple of years go play fifteen games last year for fourteen hundred thirty four yards. I get all of that but you're short career even though you've led the league in Russian two or three years I'm looking at you and I'm saying there's no question about your skill set and your value to this team. When you're on a few you have not proven to be trustworthy? Excuse me you want your money. There's a responsibility that comes with this. I don't have to give you this money now. I'll promise you take care of you. If you'RE NOT GONNA act up you go. Show me you act up that and that's what I'm doing. That's indisputably valid point. Here's my problem with this is why Zeke actually has the leverage and I'm GonNa take you to a little bit about boxing and Chester Okay Teddy Atlas colleague Gallucci in there you go in boxing broadcaster. Now Hall of fame trainer will train broadcaster used to always say and I bring it up. Sometimes you set the table eat like do jabs his way and moves his head. He wants to now now. Just ties the guy up. You did all that work those body shots you set the table eat in chess. You'll see someone prepare to finish Eto a bishop or castle and then they they put it off for a minute. No you set the table you eat now. You have a plan you follow it. They supposedly supposedly you'd think extensively did their due diligence on Zeke. Elliott thought whatever's off the field stuff. Is We believe in this dude enough to spend the number four overall pick on them. They put a team really around him as much as long term. It's Dak short-term tall fences around Ezekiel Elliott now you got it eat. He has tremendous leverage here because the cowboys have the quarterback the wideout tight end back defense. They got every single thing you need and yet he's the best player on the team. He's young girly got paid with the T._V.'s with their having success. Levy belt left the team. He's with to get paid. What happened to them? They missed the playoffs because they didn't WanNa pay him by the way the debate them. They made the playoffs this year according to me you're going going to have to follow your plan. The idea that you don't throw good money after bad I get that Stephen but you should have thought of that a long time ago he has tremendous leverage of cowboys can enter the season with a whole doubt Zeke Zeke is made about twenty million dollars in his career so for so ultimate this comes down to his mindset how far zeke willing to take this okay. I know he's in Texas but after taxes Zeke has about ten probably ten million dollars cash from the cowboys that he's made after you've paid everybody how far Z. willing to go with this because if he's a team guy he comes in the cowboys have a realistic chance of winning division getting to the N._F._C. Championship game in possibly getting to the Super Bowl. They have that type of team. Okay Dexter quarterback. We all understand you can't win without quarterback but if Zeke and this is about you and your money. How are you going to guarantee that at twenty four years old by the we had birthdays eight today's his birthday okay yeah today's if you're gonNA get your money at this aid? You don't trust Jerry Jones to the fullest pay Utah value the only way you can do that in guarantee that is the withhold services cowboys running back emmitt Smith the first two games. They went the Super Bowl. That's exactly well go looking right at yes. Nineteen ninety-two Emmett Smith lead in Russian cowboys win the Super Bowl title to meet and I've often often said this because Emmett Smith is one of my favorite people M._S. Smith he knows why because I've told them Smith this one of the greatest moments that I've ever seen Emmett Smith agrees I think to like a four year deal about thirteen thirteen point six million at the time which made the highest running back and forth in N._F._l.. History at that moment in time after he had missed the first game they won the super bowl the led the League in Russia in nineteen ninety. Two and Jones didn't WANNA pay paid Michael Irvin Pay Troy Aikman but somehow someway didn't WanNa Hey Emmett Smith. I have never in my life seen a person get a contract at the top very lucrative and looked so ticked off. He showed up in that podium that press conference I mean to be I don't understand this. This is twenty minutes twenty thirty six years ago. It's one of the most memorable performances I've ever seen. This brother sat on that and was just because he's like how you not GonNa pay me why it wasn't just that he led the League Russian wasn't just that he won a super bowl but he was a model citizen a professional McKay and you Jerry Jones and you didn't pay him. Excuse me how come you can't pay Ezekiel Elliot. What the Hell you want? You Want One playoff game. You didn't make the playoffs the before he got suspended by the way missed six games cost you a playoff royal burger so the man already cost you money alright. It really cost you money. He's at the cow boy. What a tape that got somebody? Stealing draws the weight the way you Emmett's you you are Zeki Elliott and it's great as you are on the field. You made headlines because of off you can't make he wait a little bit. Get the off the on I know how talented he is but unlike spent two years left so. Do you really have this kind of leverage because there's a precedent desmond said Todd Gurley. The Rams took girls with two years left and so oh well because it's been done because there is a trend amy brew now they're saying there's an avenue to do with a girly and last season again yeah when a cowboy see to see how I was waiting in the hotel two pitches cowboy fans and they will read it from me. I'm not cowboy running from the roof. You don't want to pitch a Komo or take a picture with me. Come on girly won that game was in the and he was Emmitt Smith's Day you could win behind running back which was why proportionately they got paid more compared to other positions. You can win today but I'm saying even if people are like you can't win with running back as your best player the vertical passing game etc fine that's why they don't get one hundred million guaranteed but they get thirty to forty eight a man. I'm saying wait a little bit who the hell eat. Let's let's talk about the cowboys and everything on their team is built toward Ezekiel Elliott. Just juice got Amari Amari Cooper four Dak Prescott but the cowboys they've taken care of four of their five offense make highest pay guy they can wait. He's Stephen Aid and he's a few miles. What did he makes you Z.? Z. Doesn't show up. What would you say? Let's do one thing that Jerry Jones wants more more than money. The Super Bowl another ring in Zeke no show they're not getting every book gets into my shop chance to decide by going on twitter voting our tournament style Brag Up. Here's our seven ten matchup a taste of number ten K. D. declining trip to the White House breath. I like both of you. We all do this with goodwill. I think in general these people at home that listen I'm tired of you not listening to me so we'll with so challege as it pertains to comprehending Europe I incapable stop talking and I will the whereas in American history where there is a clear moral choice you disagree with that moral choice for me Max or you would have deduces accident to be something political when it's not political at all. That's all I was. Everyone says it's not political when they think that there's no potential other side than the one they hold. I know call everyone that disagrees with me stupid or immoral I'm left. Actually renowned will welcome into sportscenter right now. I'm Melissa Lang Falcons wide receiver. Julio Jones did report to the facilities for training camp yesterday despite not yet having having a contract extension according to E._S._p._N.'s Adam Schefter Falcon's owner Arthur blank has said he wants to reward Jones Field Yates now on why Michael Thomas is new contract might affect Jones keep in mind that Mike Thomas also also looking for a new contract at the top of the wide receiver market. I Dunno it's as simple as one player is waiting for the other because then the next wide receiver design will be the most well-paid Julio Jones again. It's hard to call something formality until it's done on but given how public owner Arthur Blank G._M.. Thomas Dementia Polio Jones himself have been about this contract. We know what's going to get done about things have recently taking care both Radi Jarrett most recently Jones just about finding that little ground. I imagine we'll get done at some point or entering as it stands Julio Jones will be the twenty fourth highest paid wide receiver in terms of cash this season and he has two years left on his current contract for five straight seasons. Jones has ranked in the top three for receiving yards now with get you back to I take the thank you kindly so Julio's says he trust Belkin Zona Arthur blank calling his word Golden Burger still here with us good to have you. I want to start with you. It's smart for Julio to report without having the extension. Yes I think it is I think you've bought the blankets giving him his word he and his agent to say what last she was last year. We were just to the contract. We had a little bit more money. We did that lash this year. You going to get taken care. You have my work. I tend to trust guys that have to be in front of it at big air. I tend to trust those. They give you there especially if they give his word and mind you if he if he doesn't take care of Julio now you've got the other fifty two thousand eighteen. When I look wait you didn't take care of the best player and now you want me to tro shoes so I think this is bigger than just Julio? Julio is one of the top wide receivers the national football league so this is not hard to take care of if I'm him I report and I trusted my agent Mr Blanket Thomas Mitchell. They'll we'll get it done behind the city that I wanted to Sean. I totally agree that he should trust Arthur blank because blank gave them a couple of million when he didn't have correct to me. That's what makes them trustworthy the point about the be in front of the billionaires making them more trustworthy. No I think that makes you less trustworthy. There's a way you made that fortune. Believe me roofless. Most billionaires had to be ruthless to get there so it's not that I don't just take an owner at his word no but I do take a guy this word who has already shown me that he's operating in good faith and Arthur Blink has done that with Julio Jones. I only have very simple to say other than I think Julio's arguably the best why receive in football considering in size his reliability the fact that it's like five consent that would be a hundred how about this debatable. I mean he's in the compensation <hes> Antonio Brown Julio there all right. Here's the biggest reason the biggest thing I love about how Julio Jones has handled the situation. He said Mr Blake gave us his word her so you put him on spot heavy just this report. He's it's wired about in the N._F._l.. These they make two hundred twenty six million dollars off piece. You know in revenue one season. I think it was the visa before last where they each bargain two hundred twenty six million dollars that was complaining about money that was still worried about the collar cap and the effect in a potential disaster certificate could have when they've pocket at two hundred twenty six million copies okay so hell no I wouldn't trust under normal circumstances stances but the men in which he handled this I think is what so profound and that's what needs to be noticed. He publicly stated this blank. gave us is word and the fact that he said golden now you can trust because if Mr Blake if he has to come out and say it didn't count were being count <hes> that's when your point about those fifty two other players. The fact that he publicly stated only gave me his work that matters because that's not on it it affects business. Excuse me who would use as the best wide receiver the N._F._l.. Houston Texas. How do we know this? If you just look at the numbers and watch how he plays he he didn't drop a pass last year Steven one not one not want dependable shows up and unlike the other why receivers that we get on for being Divas Antonio who want the spotlight on this man just shows up at balls man it does that who also and I think Julio's right. Let's we're splitting hairs. Julio the Andre how Tonio Brown Odell Beckham for me if you asked me which one of these guys do take. Would you put number one slightly could the nuts about Julio. Jones does that to tell you what everyone but he said everyone. I want to know who number two on your list give it to me to be Julio. Three would be Antonio Brown full. Go look every generation has their incredible hands receive who's one of the best in the League Chris Carter Larry Fitzgerald Ours Right now is De'andre Hopkins. He is among the very best and football almost never is that considered number one even if he just keeps his head down and Andre Hopkins a hell of a case. I'm not saying he doesn't answer Julio Jones. I believe in my heart Odell better than everyone like a standard deviation better. I think Odell class by himself but he hasn't proven it. I can't sit here and say that he is definitely absolutely the best even if I feel it in my because my eyeballs tell me at the C. for the same age he's better than everyone and also I see him do things no one else can do period and he's all around football player just because he's a diva doesn't mean meals do all the things he's so. That's one but I can't prove it. The best statistical argument can be made for A._B.. You make a hell of a case for for a Deandre Hopkins but the answer is Julio Jones. Julio Jones has homerun hitting ability. He's a spectacular ocular wideout. There's not a single thing missing. He has the size he has the hands. He has the route learning. He keeps his head down. He's a good teammate. He's a team player doesn't give you any of the baggage any of the other guys do plus. He's not just good hands and everything he's breakaway speed. He's not just the breakway speed and he doesn't get in in the city like Atlanta and he never gets distracted. y'All y'all a small and you're looking at me smiling. Because you know what the Hell I'm talking about. He does a lot of his mind. Let me let me like I said Atlanta and as you know going into basketball for example one of the greatest reasons why I give the way way so much roger for his greatness is he was in wake county. They call it Wade County for crying South beach all right and the brother was their winning and being sensational in the Future Hall of Famer. You know how many bodies have the party from South Beach never to re have dame distracting matters man letters and Julio Jones the although the in Cleveland that's all we came out there. I am disciplined. I am focused in nothing in steers me away from my job but I'll be damned if I don't know how to have a good time and I'm here to tell you something right now. Atlanta Julio Jones excelling in Atlanta is a very interesting but not why was impressive as Miami me but it's impressive in Atlanta Miami's the most impressed whatever you're looking for Stephen but the handler different flame Atlanta than it is and some international national mandate is true it is it is talking about the okay. Oh yeah you know what top of the jaw back off is Stevens a list the top five duos in the N._B._A.. Maximum WanNa hear anything about injuries the saint about injuries. Assume these people are healthy. Who's your top five do oath in the N._B._A.? As we speak let's go to five heart and Westbrook why you know why both of them on stoppable you can't stop West from the old. You can't stop Autumn Period Hardawy West Open floor even more for what's which don't make audit even more dangerous because often shots lethal unstoppable is the way to put these two brothers or the court together they boys. That's just come broderie. You simply typically. Can't let's go to number four K. D. and Kyri why because Cari is an one he'll dance on anybody. He's coming home. He's in book but not too far away from new one. We know how special this brother if and K. D. unhealthy his fourth of concert the best in the world six eleven seven six weeks man can pull from thirty can average thirty in asleep. He's special when he comes back. Look out. Let's go to number three on the. Let's give it to me. Cold Wind P._G.. Thirteen why not only because of what they could do on affects us out of the ball but defensively excuse me have you seen these brothers play some defense the arguably the best duo on both ends of the floor in the N._B._A.. Day on now teammates with the Los Angeles Clippers. The Clippers are title contender. Make no mistake about it. Let's go to number two but they brought this this step. That's claim with healthy why it's very simple the the greatest shooting back court in the history of basketball never before have we seen a duo that could shoot the basketball like this when these two brothers returned together healthy. I got news for you sleep upon a Golden State Warriors if you want to because you don't know basketball they go have something to say about stuff with all the set of Dutch but not against the boys broadening D. Y.. Both at least six nine Lebron is to sixty look. You got something approved because of the first time and nine years. He got a break from April he didn't play into A._D.. Six eleven to play five to four different positions couldn't defend for different positions. One of the top doc plays on the planet two of the top players in the world no question there the dynamic duo and and I left him be and on this because Simmons gotta get a jump shot well. You've got a bunch of stuff wrong first of all okay cool why in Paul Georgia way too low anytime N._B._A.. History you had to elite wings two-way players on the same team Lebron we'd won two out of four wet four straight times Jordan and pippen one. Every single year gets like that is number one player in basketball period. He's ninety number. One size not ever won the reading and defending finals beeping their bag shows. He told me Look Look Stephan. Clay Court is better than staff Paul George better than clay our Stephan Klay ahead of quiet Paul George. Excuse me Georgia's never played in an N._B._A.. Finals I love P._G.. I love him but he has never played over Paul George. Excuse me I'm talking about. Excuse me at this particular moment in time. I'm saying if healthy excuse me Claes at three time champion one talk to shoot is arguably of all time the warriors. What are you going to happen? What are you going to have excuse me excuse me you? They're going to win clay already done. It took three top not even gonNA get bogged. Say this real quick. Whatever you have Klay Thompson if Klay Thompson hadn't gotten hurt in game two we miss game? Maybe two games evidence state wins the title I don't but okay they win that game but not the tight all right look right. Hardening Westbrook should not be on that list right now not only are M Beedon Simmons. They've already shown they came closer than anyone to beating the eventual champions game seven seems autumn was in a game seven at a what's to come here we go with Chris Paul not with Westbrook's cousy so you could be worse for rescue not than they would be this year but then they were two years ago. Yes I do that one so there's emily about this. How about this because they've already played together and show you what she can do in crunch time Lillard Lillard and mccullum new word I I had a top five? I will say this. I will say this does a damn good on you. I and I forget about them but I'm saying I still gonNA. Go stick to what I believe yeah but I have to acknowledge if I'm making the argument because I believe in P._G.. What Klay did it? I believe in West brokenhearted but C._J.. And Dame did so I would give you that you could make an argument to convince me that C.. J. and Dane could replace that but I think physically I just think better. That's right. They're not mccullum is not quite by level of all all the other guys right. I think question becomes how does he do under pressure because hardening west show yet come through when they need in the most mccullum showed himself to be a pressure player yes so you take Lillard in elite player and put them with an all star who also also play right. Let me tell you what hold against Portland you know how much I love my Mendan- but I'm GonNa tell you what I hold against Portland not only did you lose but you got swept in the conference finals by Golden State Tea Without Katie but they had steph and Clinton number clay on three could be there was no no no. We'll talk about dynamic duels as much as I love dre. I'm just saying we talked about do stay Stephan Klay tandem typically see ethics desktop are more attention than anyone now. It's true you need a third guy to space the floor and shoot without Klay. It doesn't work as well with Steph dre but you could take other guys who could shoot the three and say anything dram on. I'm not asking anything away away from dray but even dray with tell you steph and clay the tandem. I'm saying that a tandem he's a trio say wait you reduce the warriors down to their basic component of more than one player which is steph curry drains the number two guy. He allows them to play five out. He's he's the guy who along with Steph Reverend Augusta. The equivalent of taking Jordan Pippen and saying Dennis Rodman need to be in there because of his defense and is rebuild role which is Modern League Andrey got a lot of parody coming to the incredible. Unfortunately we won't have two of those top ten players playing majority the of next season guys. Let's talk a little football here we earlier about pro football hall of Famer Brett Farve comparing his game to that a Patrick mahomes Baker Mayfield articles by the Akron Beacon Journal so which player will be the leader of the more exciting offense this season he's end mahomed faker Max Cal Baker Mayfield. I'm not even talking about how many points you squirm so when I say excitement I mean who do I want to watch the show. Baker Mayfield's not as good as mahomes. I get that amount scores many points as as the show we saw last year in in K._C.. But I WANNA see Patron Mayfield because he's a little more vulnerable than mahomes. It makes more interesting. It's like a great fighter who also vulnerable able like Pernell Whitaker was tragically killed. We've got some people didn't like his fights because he was so dominant they were one-sided but people like Arturo gatty partly because you know he's up and down right even though he's not on that level Baker Mayfield homes but that makes more interesting Baker Mayfield eight to throwing the ball to Odell Beckham and Gerald Kareem Hunt and Mick Chubb running the ball joke who and I mean we talked about galleys third-best the number of different options the fact that that it's all all being thrown together. Let's see how it works makes it if it's not the most exciting. It's the most compelling team to watch on offense this season. Here's what I would tell you Max. I'm going to go with the Kansas City chiefs. I'm going to go with mahomes. Mahomes two for five thousand housing yards Baker Mayfield was a rookie we get all of that completed sixty three percents of his bats as he's no scrub. He's proven he can play. We got a lot of faith in Patrick Mahomes or something special <hes> he's a generational talent at the quarterback position that arm strength the level of accuracy. The rifle of all Tom risk taking that he engages in Travis. Kelsey is dear tyreek. Hill will be back. Damian Williams is not a slouching running back Sammy Watkins as a quality receiver down. It's not a scrub and so when we look at it from that perspective along with Andy Reid still running running that off it's even though he has to show up in big games. Okay we understand that and to any reads credit is impotent as they were offensively in the first half of the A._F._C. Championship game against New England. They showed up and make some noise. I'm of the fact that I take the more exciting office is going to be in Kansas City with home. You say he takes risks mahomes but the fact is mahomes doesn't turn over the ball. He only gives you the impression he takes risks because he does things physically. They did say I saw it somewhere where they talked about about ten of his his completions would touch they could easily been interceptions so instead of having twelve convention one point that that's what they say. Here's what they say. All I'm saying to you is watching them. I am not sold on Cleveland as clear Jackson Baker Mayfield was not doing two receivers. That's thing had the nerve to thread the needle he would throw into tight windows and he's not Patrick Mahomes. He's not like he does things where you're like. Is he good enough to do that. It's a question Mahomes doesn't turn the ball whatever they were tipping doesn't he he. He looks like he takes risks but he's physically so different talented so let me tell you what takes risks when when I think you missing where's we we've lament. Nobody's lamented the absence of Korean more than me because I talked about how he calls. The Kansas City chiefs a super bowl championship. If Kareem Hunt hadn't got himself probably his list or whatever let me tell you something I think the kids beat New England in A._F._C. Championship game and I think they would've the super bowl but without him there even though Damien Williams can run the football remember. You're probably asking Patrick. Mahomes thought a football even more and that brother with those weapons. Excuse me we'll see we we shall see and by the way we keep talking about Odell Beckham top-five. We'll see what excuse me we show he's better than I thought if the action to surprise now we're sure I mean I know we we we fantasize what Odell Beckham could do. We see what Tyreek Hill Odell put up more numbers than anyone ever at his age. It's more Eli John Manning exactly and not blaming him. I'm simply saying there was some passes. Yep We see Tommy. He'll do that. No not debatable A._B._C.. Always be closing. That'd be Marianne over closed out the baseball hall of fame inductee ceremony ceremony yesterday jokingly asking why he always has to be last Rivera became the first player to be unanimously voted into the hall next year his former teammate the Great Derrick jeeter will be on the ballot and is expected to join him I town. I know thank you might have to go out there for that. Which Yankee great would you rather have? Would you go rivera or jeeter close. I know it's his everyday player shortstop. I'm going Mariano Rivera two things one adjusted array which which normalizes for Ballpark era and all that stuff every pitcher who ever lived with over one thousand eight minutes Rivera has the lowest adjusted e._R._A.. Ever meaning inning for inning he's the best pitcher whoever lived that's one to Stephen you say well well. He just comes in in the ninth now Rivera a lot of times brought into the eighth with runners on base in the game in the balance and then got those out and then got the ninth inning. How does that do do against pressure think about this? He pitched one hundred forty one innings in the postseason. That's two full reliever seasons nowadays right one hundred forty Lois adjusted e._R._A.. Ever what was the postseason in the teeth of the steroids era against the greatest lineups anyone's ever seen is was point seven. That's one third his regular season e._R._A.. So the best to ever did it and infringing. How do you do under pressure three times better than the best ever? Who's he elevated three times better than the best to ever did it who's himself yeah Rivera's the answer first ball? I given that kind of tired of the somebody that shows up in pitches in any I'm just not doing that. I'm allergic number to Derrick jeeter lifetime at batting average three ten lifetime batting average speech in three thousand four hundred sixty five career hits. Excuse me fourteen all star five. Tom Champion the World Series M._v._p.. L. Chappie Capi Derrick jeeter nothing to discuss here by the Way New York City another great most a distraction Lord knows dining jeeter one could argue. He's had distractions very pleasant ones. I might add nevertheless now shows up to work copies. You got married her for discussing this league. Ernest Hemingway wrote the old man in the sea and the kid in the I'd like to go fishing with the Great Dimaggio. I heard he was poor and his father was a fisherman and like us. I think he would understand that's paraphrasing the quilt no one could be replaced could replace Dimaggio and that sentence whoever lived in baseball until Rivera came around whose father was also a Fisher who the hell correctly off happy time the truth of Rivera.

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Start or Sit (AFC); Trust Brady? Fuller? Mike Davis? (09/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Start or Sit (AFC); Trust Brady? Fuller? Mike Davis? (09/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league wage out here some combination of Adam Dave Jamie. He's back. All right, we bring it started tonight. Welcome to the show room. This is fantasy football today on Thursday start or sit for the 8th AFC home games not including Jacksonville, Miami. We did that one on yesterday show Adam Azar with Jamey Eisenberg and Heath Cummings. This is a good week. Looking forward to some of these games Dallas Seattle. I think even Chicago Atlanta's pretty cool looking forward to Buffalo hosting the Rams, but he's you ready for Monday night Ravens verse three and half Point favorite over the Chiefs, you know, you came to me like Heath. Are you ready for and it's Thursday and men shoes on an island game tonight, and I was all excited game. To say I'm not as ready as Shaggy be is with the men's shoe stashed or going on. It looks absolutely fantastic in every way Monday night and I couldn't even considered my there yet got so much is going to happen before we get to Monday. But like if you want me to make a prediction, I think the Ravens are probably going to win Jamie. What do you think wage? I think that I'm glad I don't have to sit and watch the Jaguars on Sunday. Like I'm usually forced to because one of the guys I work with does radio for the Jaguars something out that way gets. Well get the spotlight on Thursday though. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, but usually I'm forced to watch Jaguars games. It's painful. What do you think speaking of that guy? I tried to make him a trade-off for offering them. All Jags and former Jags because he has a knowing to team with a bench full of rookies and all of his starters got hurt and he keeps changing quarterbacks to a worse option. Yeah. So this is Pete prisco who just his whole strategy appeared to be wait, wait wait and then take Drew lock with his last know what the that's the funny thing about that that was actually one of his best drafts besides the quarterback. Because he actually did some smart things with that team. Let's see what he's got Derek Carr saquon Barkley Todd Gurley Keenan Allen T Y Hilton Jalen reagor. He's going to have to make some lineup changes. He does have James Robinson Chris Godwin no offense on the bench. All right, so he's got some options. Nobody cares about Pete's team Jamie. I did want a quick prediction for Monday Night Football when he got home. I think the Ravens win as well. I think this is a more important game in their mind that it is the chief and you know Mahomes maybe you have a different option will get to that game the first game we preview. He's only one different options the more you know of the guys that were drafted in that range. There's only one different option. That was not camp Camp. Yeah, he's got I got his history and very tough matchups. It's there been some actually kind of low-scoring patchable. I mean nobody's benching him, but that's the only one I would consider is Kim. Gotcha. All right off. Three players. I want to throw out at you real quick. You tell me if you tell me if you think they're under roster. Okay should be on more teams, Jeff Wilson 14% at the Giants this week. DeSean Jackson 63% gets the Bangles had nine targets and week to Jalen reagor is on IR Golden Tate 53% gets to Forty Niners. I think the stat was he had five games with 80 yards last year 80 or more yards four of them came without a sterling Shepard in the lineup. So Jackson and Tate 63% the average 17 + PPR points in those five games. Without Shepherd on the field. Yeah, and he caught all of his targets last week in four of them. He had eight or more targets. Yeah. So I'm looking at Wilson Jackson and Tate feeling they might be a little under austerity. Just feeling that a thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's I think probably the thing holding Jeff Wilson down is that everybody knows he's going to be the early Downs back and the jobs have such a great run defense. You know, I knew he took a shot of me on HQ yesterday and you're taking one of me now and I'll tell you what's happened with the Giants run defense is they've just been really bad in the fourth quarter David Montgomery had 32 rushing yards the first three quarters, he had 50 of rushing yards in the fourth quarter and we saw in the week one Benny Snell just ran all over them late in the game. So I don't really know why they are not doing better in that regard, but that's what's happening. So you do know there was a coaching change, right? So I'm going to have to say that it's different system. But well, I think they're still running a three or four things around 3 four last year, but they have the same same players up front page. And they got a better linebacker. So whatever. Yeah Blake Martinez is better than Alec Ogletree and yeah what who cares? So anyway, I wanted to defend myself from that little pot shots. But yeah Wilson at 14% I mean, would you start him over like Myles Gaskin? I would not I would start him over the non D'Andre Swift Lions guys. If you're looking at it that way, you know, if you're talking about, you know Peterson and kerryon Johnson of just some loam options. I mean, we we just don't know what the 49ers going to do, you know, they've yet to promote as far as I know Michael Hasty off the practice squad. I mean that's a procedural move that I'm sure will come and he could be the guy, you know, I mean, they just might want to see how he's so it could be Wilson in the first half and then if they're playing with the league, which I think a lot of people do expect then maybe we see more of hasty on their running down stuff. I'm the thing. I'm curious about with McKinnon is off. I think one of you guys brought this up, I'm not sure who it was may have been Dave. So I apologize. Whoever said it the turf for the Giants if they're unhappy with it, which clearly they are meaning the 49ers game. Do they want to risk? Jerk? McKinnon's me history after they just watched their quarterback their star defensive player and other key defensive player and they're running back go down maybe because of in their minds the field not being a hundred percent. Correct. Doesn't it kind of piss you off that we're having this discussion like the NFL is a multi-billion-dollar industry and off we are worried about the quality of one of the fields are going to play on. Yeah. Well look the Giants and the Jets and it's interesting. Those are small Market teams, you know, you gotta give them a break. They gotta cut the first time I've ever heard complaints about that field though. I'm sure there have been but it's the first time I've ever heard like you you hear about the obviously the baseball and filled in Oakland when they had to deal with stuff like that, you know years ago you heard about vets stadium in Philadelphia being how horrible that was but I mean, I'm back on the field and in Giants stadium, you know, I've done stand ups on on the sidelines. It didn't seem bad to me, but I'm not running around with out there. So I don't really know you wouldn't have the right shoes. Anyway, Jamie it would have been bad. I did have I did a preseason game off. As I did back-to-back games. I don't know if it was a Giants and jets but I did back-to-back games and I'm on camera and this giant fly is right in my face. And at one point I had to just you know, do one of these and The Preserve. Still sends me pictures of me. That's why all right. Let's talk about some starts and sits. Who do you love this week? He's can be some play one or two players that you just you loving this week wage, but Jamie mentioned him and I think like I just one more time Cam Newton. I just love Cam Newton. Not this week next week every week off the Dave come around yet as Dave come around on Cam Newton. Yep, I think so. I think he's he's the lowest this week, but he still has some ninth you guys have him fourth and fifth. That makes sense. Yeah, he's he's coming around but just like a week a week behind. Well, yeah to look I didn't really think he was going to be this good. I think it's fair. I just oh, it's it's absolutely I mean his reservations were warranted, you know, you could but it was it was just funny after we won like not getting a little bit more excited like he was just Debbie Downer on Camelback to fair enough. Well, it didn't work out. Yeah, he's got him nice and the only one that that's ahead of him and Dave's rankings that I think really stands out is Aaron Rodgers, especially if Davante, I mean, I can't that'll change something about the Adams doesn't play but I guess like just to give one that's kind of out there probably vs. Everyone else's rankings Dallas got hurt last four thousand L Eagles games got hurt has more targets than Zach ertz going back to the playoffs and last year in week sixteen. He's performing better on a per Target. It's right now. Jalen reagor is now on IR. So we're back to a situation where they've got one and half healthy wide receivers Burt's and Goddard are both starters, but I would start got her overts. What do you think about Heath in regards to Goddard what Pete prisco said on HQ yesterday about the contract you think that's something that the coaching staff is maybe has in their minds in terms of how they're operating with Hertz. It's weird. I mean, I think that maybe it's not weird. I mean, it's it's another thing to consider. Yeah, like there's a little bit of I don't know if like, I don't know if there's like ongoing Strife between him and the organization but he's not happy and the thing is he's under contract for next year like it's not like he's a very bad this year to guess. You just watched what the other two guys that you're considered in their class not paid off or like what so what you suggested that they're not throwing the Earth's because he contract didn't suggest that that's the case. He just, you know, kind of I guess hinted at it saying that song Their future Goddard is their future and so is it the, you know, we talked about this running backs all the time, you know, The Changing of the Guard. Yeah. I know. This is just one example, he's he's brought up a task when Ingram was suspended and Kamara was coming off his strong rookie campaign and it was does does Ingram get his exact role back or does Camaro get more work because you know who the future through the the past is going to be and so you wonder if the plate designs maybe are a little bit different if the the you know, the first look for whence is being told to go goddard's I mean, they're always going to say they're going to if they're doing that then that's pathetic. I really hope that's true. But but I think off or it was more like we want to see if Goddard can be the guy right before we decide whether we're going to pay hurts. It's just it's just one of those things like when you look at conspiracy theories players and circumstances, it's a fun one to point you again. Nobody was saying that that's the case. It's just, you know going that up. Okay, Jamie, who do you love this week by the way, he says Earth's and Goddard both Tom. Seven and nine people you are both top six and PPR ahead of almost everyone within like the obvious must-starts Jamie. Who do you love this week? I love Joshua Kelly. He's he's a start of the week for a week number three. It's a yeah, it's just a fantastic opportunity against a very very bad Panthers defense and you know, I've got a lot of questions since the article came out about do I start Kelly over Kareem hunt. Do I start Kelly over Joe mix? Do I start Kelly over Todd Gurley in orders? I bring that up is that's the one that I would start him over of the the mustard guys. I would start him over all the waiver wire guys and take a look at it. Usually when I have the start of the week. It's a guy that's top 10 at their respective position or top-15. He's top twenty for me. So it's not across-the-board. You have to start him and don't start off regular. He's not there yet. But I love to set up for him against his Panthers defense. That's just been absolutely awful. They allow the most touchdowns to the position. They allow the most receptions to the position. He's gotten as my dog. Carrie so far through two games as Austin ekeler they like him a lot. And so I think it's an easy set up for him to have success against the team that's on the road for back-to-back weeks. Yeah Caroline. It's interesting. They I can see they've been so terrible against the run but they're just getting run on a ton and they have actually seen for a team which with which has maybe you know, one of the most unproven secretaries in the NFL. They have seen the fewest wide receiver Target's they're two games Carolina. So it's just you know, and I guess it makes sense right there. You're beating them you're going to run the ball. I think part of that also is that their first game was against the Raiders and we know how much they throw their wide receivers. Yeah, that's true. And why am I Blind Guardian was out in week two? All right last week, right? But the the 35 times I mean, right? Okay, who are you avoiding this week any sits this week Todd Gurley? Okay against the Bears. Yep, David Johnson if I can. Yeah, oh, he's sixty second-ranking debates. So David don't really want to start Marketing Group. And despite I will regret saying this but he kind of looks washed and his quarterback looks washed. So do you by Hilton Head Oh, I thought you were saying Mark Ingram in the margin Jackson say I say to you by Hilton? Yeah. Okay, and I'll you know same thing. I said last week about these guys off on Watson and will Fuller. Okay? Yeah, so there but what about the fact that Pittsburgh hasn't really been great against the number one receivers that you know Slayton, how are you off interpreter? It's late and had a hundred yards and two touchdowns and Courtland Sutton played like 40% of the snaps and he had 66 yards. I think will Fuller is battling through something, you know, so there's that risk of him leaving the game. I think those guys are fantastic Bi-Lo candidates. You can get will Fuller probably cheap DeShaun Watson cheaper than he may ever be The schedule is about to become fantastic compared to what it was. I mean, I don't know what Bill O'Brien did to the schedule makers because they hate him. I mean after starting the season with those three matchups. Yeah, you know, especially each of them on the road. It's it it was a nightmare to begin with and so, you know, we thought I remember he's saying this, you know, the hope would be is some of these come back efforts garbage time would be in DeShaun Watson the passing games benefit and it wasn't week one. But we threw was a disaster and week three could be a disaster again. All right, let's get to the age where he's news and notes. We got a lot of them to get to here. But first, you know, you should listen to Fantasy Football today in 5, you know, how long it takes to listen to that show 5 minutes. Okay, we record six times per week. We give you a bonus episode on Sunday mornings, although I do put that episode into this feed off, but other than the Sunday morning one, which comes out around 8:30 a.m. It's 3:00 in the morning. These are published. So when you wake up in the morning, you want your quick fft fix subscribe to the fantasy football today in five podcast. And we've got a starter set pregame chat on Twitch tonight 7 p.m. Eastern Heath and I are going to be on their answering your questions twitch.com fftoday 7 p.m. Eastern. We have a lot of fun on swage. So so come join us. All right. Let's see some big names missing practice Davante Adams Josh Jacobs, Darren wall or Julio Jones. Let's start with those guys Adams Jacobs wall or Julio Jones. Who do you think is actually in danger of missing this week's game? Adams and maybe Julio like him Julio not practicing on Wednesdays. Not any big deal at all, but Ian Rapoport tweeting about Julio not practicing Wednesday and something to watch makes me care a little bit more. Nick Mullens is likely to start for the 49ers at the Giants and Justin Herbert will start Tyrod Taylor has a punctured lung. So the Nick Mullens at the Giants and Tyrod Taylor against Carol. Sorry Justin Herbert against Carolina, if you're desperate for a quarterback or superflex, whatever who's better? Oh Herbert, you should absolutely add him in those formats because it could be a multiple week injury for tie rod and you know, it's going to be an interesting decision for Anthony Lynn if Herbert is fantastic as long as tie rod is out because based on the circumstances you're taking the guy's job away from him if that happens because of a you know team scenario that did this thing. Oh, yeah, and that's not going to probably sit well with a lot of people especially in that locker room, but you know, the future is Herbert and if he is, you know, just on fire, how do you take him out of that job? So it's it's really a tough spot for the Chargers to be in France me Lindsay in but Herbert should be added in any superflex or two quarterback league if he was not drafted in those formats. Yeah. Well, hopefully for Anthony Lynn Herbert's just horrible and the decisions easy, right? That's Jake played against the Chiefs. I'd be shocked if he's going to be horrible Sam. I thought it was really good. But yeah, you never know the films out there wage. All right. So let's talk about the Panthers backfield who could possibly steal touches from Mike Davis. Do you think Curtis Samuels? There is some momentum here with like people think her to Sam is going to get some carries or should get some carries and he had for last week and all four are actually before McCaffrey's injury and then there's Trenton Cannon cuz I don't think Reggie bonnafon has been elevated yet. So from the practice squad so Curtis Samuel Trenton Cannon, I'm not saying starting but I'm thinking I'm saying do you think they are a fly in the ointment basically from Mike Davis? No. Okay, cool. I think everything's at play. Everything's up with answers. Yeah, I like Christian McCaffrey gets 20 to 25 touches a game. I've got Mike Davis projected for 17 right now. Maybe that should be a little bit lower based on the risk. But Curtis Samuel was always going to get some carries. I don't need I mean we don't know. Okay. Yeah just it needs to be brought up for all the people with Mike Davis. We're going to preview that game Sterling Shepard on IR with turf toe Jalen reagor on IR torn UCL and his thumb in a trade-off. We might be out until week ten 7 Coleman's on IR George Kittle status is uncertain Richie Incognito left guard for the Raiders. He's on IR they're already on their third string right tackle. So a little beat up on the line Dolphins cornerback Byron Jones is out for tonight's game. DJ Chark is questionable. All right, let's break this down Heath if DJ Chark does not play. What does that mean for for everyone for men shoe for sure offer Cole? It's been a weird start to the season where they're throwing it to DJ Chark like a number one wide receiver. Anyway, it would make me a little more leery about men shoe but you're still starting him. I would think it would be great benefit for both coal and Chenault and Chris Connelly and Chris Connelly. Yeah, but I've got colon Chenault is number three slash number massage Lexus right now off. They would still be that just higher-end versions. Would you drop men shoe behind Roethlisberger if shark doesn't play? I don't think I would but I mean as of this morning I think talk is playing. He got a limited practices. So okay, just if you guys are some reason starting Josh Lambo just be aware. He's on IR. He's their kicker. He's twelve percent Rossford. So yeah, they picked up Ferrari so they're good. Okay, Brandon Linder Jacksonville Center is out tonight, Brown and cam Akers both miss practice. So let's go. Let's go Darryl Henderson. Buffalo linebackers, Matt Milano and Tremaine Edmunds were Edmunds were limited in practice. That's good news defensive tackle at all of our miss practice. So that's bad news. Good news of year. The Rams not good news. If you're programs AJ Brown this practice jonnu Smith was limited Minnesota. We know about their secondary two cornerbacks Mike Hughes in Camden. They miss practice Cincinnati looks like they could be without too defensive tackles Geno Atkins at McDaniel's for this game against Philadelphia Jamison Crowder and Richard Perryman miss practice Dallas cornerback chidobe. Awuzie. Is going to miss most multiple weeks so light it up cook Russell Wilson, Jack Doyle miss practice and Cleveland right tackle. Jack Conklin is going to play this week and Cleveland's get a little defensively and there's just this one last note. I want to read this is from the Tampa Bay Times. Here's what Tampa Bay Times said about they're the Bucks running backs. Don't expect Arians to give fornetto one status, even though he believes he will play a bigger role as it gets a better hold of the offensive Playbook quote. I love the way it works out right now area and said to have Leonard come in with fresh legs and the fourth quarter and pound it took that very few teams have that combination. So the speculation is that for net will be used more in late in the game and also the Tampa Bay Times reminding us that last year against Denver fournette ran for 125 yards a career-high and that prompted the Broncos to change their defensive alignment basically and use the defensive front that they are still using today. So interesting game looking forward to think I am Move Joshua Kelly up another spot over for net. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well listen credit card. I want to talk to you about that. Cuz I've seen a couple of my friends deal with this. 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That's the only place to get it l i g h t s t r a f f t subject to credit approval rate includes a point five auto point five percent auto-pay discount terms and conditions apply and offers are subject to change without notice. Visit life m. F f t for more information. All right getting into the games now got some East Coast and West Coast trips the Niners and the Rams are both going to the East Coast for the second straight week. So that's interesting and Vegas is at New England. They have been very good on the east coast in recent years a little shorter trip now with Tampa Bay's at Denver Carolina said at the Chargers and then one thing I noticed last week man, like all the wide receivers who had tough matchups pretty much crushed them except for will Fuller. It just how much does he's even matter to you. I mean you look at like Cooper kupp at Buffalo you look at Houston at Pittsburgh. You look at AJ Green against Darius Slay. The Chargers are tough matchup for Carolina Kenny. Golladay, Arizona, Tyreek Hill at Baltimore last week was so high scoring and it didn't matter. He doesn't matter this week. I care about how good the defense is that a wide receiver is amazing because it could affect touchdown chances. I am not concerned about individual matchups. Jamie any individual matchups that concern you I think he's point is valid, you know, like the Rams, for example, they got they got beat up the bills got beat up a little bit with their linebackers out as we saw a sec. He just light up that team where they had been so good against Titans. So you get those two linebackers back and now their defense is close to home. I think it could be tough for the Rams offense as a whole. So I downgrade their entire team if those guys play We've got an anniversary of sorts. By the way. This is the my favorite stat that I dragged her and I found it has been now two full years. You go back to MP3 of 2018 where multiple wide receivers basically had a good fantasy game against the Chargers from the you know, in the same game. It's 10 or more of our points 14 or more PPR points. It has not happened in a regular season game since week three of 2018. It did happen in a playoff game just barely Phillip Dorsett and Julian Edelman in the 2018-19 postseason, but that's going to be fun like Robby Anderson is Robby Anderson to start this week is DJ Morris start this week against the Panthers. I will get more and more Chargers. I would lean more towards DJ more than Robby Anderson. I would try and sit Robbie understand this week. Yeah, I understand the boom-bust number three. I don't you don't have to ask me probably if I'm starting DJ Moore. Okay fair enough. All right, let's do some 60 seconds rankings disputes. Let's try to really make them 60 seconds to Sean Watson 19th for Jamie 11th for Heath. He is at Pittsburgh Davis right in the middle at 14th, Jamie. You say basically sit DeShaun Watson. Yeah, he may move up a couple spots like right now I have golf ahead of him that may change again if those linebackers are going to play but I just think it's going to be easy for Sean Watson once again, so he's a great buy-low candidate don't give up on DeShaun Watson, but you don't have to start him this week and a tough matchup against Pittsburgh. We already have a good example of what he looked like in a tough match up last week. He's pack. Yeah. I listen it was bad last week against Baltimore. The Steelers have not been as good as we thought they were going to be defensively and maybe they will be in this game. I don't log. Starting to Sean Watson. But Gardner Minshew is the only guy who was available on the waiver wire that I feel good starting above him. I'm not starting fitzmagic tonight over him. I'm not starting Tannehill or Joe burrow over him. So I'm going to pull it back out there. Okay. How about how about Matthew Stafford? I give him back-to-back Stafford. Once I would start Stafford over to Sean Watson. I think Stafford going to have a very good wage with Kenny golladay back and chasing the score in Arizona. All right. How about Tom Brady? So Jamie's got Brady as a start. He's got him tense. He says him 20-second. He so you're saying sit Tom Brady at Denver. I just I'm going to need I've gotten to the point with Brady. I just I'm going to need to see it first. I don't think this Denver defense is particularly good but back on the road. I I kind of think they might just be a little bit more conservative. They were they threw 35 passes last week. And maybe that's where they're at again, but 35 passes isn't enough for Tom Brady right. Now the way that they've they're just not they've not gelled Jamie more optimistic on Brady. Yes. I think Brady is going to be very good low-end starter. This is going to be his best game yet because this is going to be the first time that he has his healthy wide receivers on the field. He did not have a healthy Mike Evans in week one and Chris Godwin was knocked out of that game and then he did not have Chris, and week to if he's throwing 35 times against this Broncos defense. I think he's going to be serviceable. He's not going to have a 30 point game, but I think he'll be in that twenty to twenty-five Point range and that will put him in the neighborhood of a top ten quarterback Josh Kelley Jamie's start of the week. So Jamie's got him 20th in both formats. See if you have them 30th and non PPR 36th in PPR. You're not feeling against Carolina for Josh Kelley. Yeah. I I've moved him up. We had this situation with Ben Roethlisberger last week and I saw that he was a sort of the week and so I thought Looking and I do think it's a good situation. I think that the Chargers are going to be more conservative than I originally had them forecast that I've got Kelly at around 26 to 28 now both in both formats. It's probably going to require a touchdown like I don't think Josh Kelley is probably going to be good enough to start this week without one but they should score some touchdowns against the Panthers So Jamie wage, which waiver wire running backs. Are you starting Kelly ahead of when you look at the Giants the 49ers might be starting up over Mike Davis all of them. How about you Heath Mike Davis or Josh Kelly. I think Davis office is now I will start Davis over him if like Henderson, let's see who's active if it's just Henderson and brown. I would probably start interesting over him as well. But the rest of the waiver wire guys are buying them. Yes, I will say this if both Rams guys are out Henderson would be better. But at this point we're kind of anticipating Brown to play. All right. Couple more David Johnson David Johnson is 15 for Heath wage. For Jamie and Dave is also closer to 24 Jamie. You're not quite you you kind of set it early on really want to start David Johnson know. I mean we're looking at a guy that is not getting a ton of old. He had a great week one against the Chiefs and he averaged seven yards of carrier and then he comes back in week two and he didn't have the same level of production with 11 carries. You know, I I just don't want to buy into a guy that's going to be chasing points and is going to have you know, three or four catches. I think that's certainly a feasible for him based on what we've seen but this is not a good match up for him at all. And so I like to avoid David Johnson if you can okay Steelers have are giving up 2.55 yards-per-carry two running backs facing Berkeley and Gordon, but he you got David Johnson 15. Yeah, and I haven't real life. I you say that and I don't feel like I want to be in a rankings dispute over David Johnson saying that I like him. Okay, so maybe I'll just move him down. But yeah, it's dead. I there's not a lot of running backs that you feel confident about having double-digit carries and being four to five targets. And so like I think that's probably going to do that and I do think that even in garbage time. He's probably still going to be okay. We're still not expecting to do Johnson to play right? But let me ask question he because touches through two weeks. She has more right? Yeah, that's many probably true Kelly more than 35 carries and David Johnson. Yeah, he's much more. So better matchup for Kelly verse says the Panthers at home compared to David Johnson on the road and the catches should favor David Johnson, but they did throw two times to Kelly last week in his second NFL game. Why would you not play Josh Kelley over David Johnson? Well, I would say like they're they're volume and the running game was basically the same in week one. Then he had the 23 carries against blacks and Kelly had more dead. One in his birthday 12 to 11. Basically the same. Like I said, I think that just don't feel confident that he's going to catch two passes and it feels like to is closer to his ceiling than his floor. But yeah, I thought I could understand someone starting Kelly over Johnson. I I don't feel as confident in his role as a 20 touch back after one week of seeing it and I wonder how much of that was just in her boss just told him he was starting five seconds before the game. We really would like to just run the ball as much as possible. Yeah. Well look if they if they give the ball to Kelly more than echler again. I just don't I just don't get it off, you know, like there was so much more effective than Kelly Butler said get more touches than just isn't Kelly better than a quick conversation. Not not by any stretch. I know you know how much I like. Kelberg. He did not be playing more than Austin ekeler, but I'd be shocked unless this game goes completely sideways for the Chargers if he's getting less than 15 carries in this game. All right, let's do this start ohmmeter now Jarvis Landry against Washington wage Here on the start. Ohmmeter, Washington Cleveland Vegas New England Jets Colts. Those are gonna be the last three games that we get to today. So if you can't stick around start on meter for Jarvis Landry 0 to 10 3 and non PPR 5 and PPR one. All right. I'm like what I said about Brady earlier. I'm kind of right there with Jarvis Landry. I'm afraid against Washington. There's not enough pass volume for a Jarvis Landry to be good. Lawyer. Okay, that's an interesting game just because of their run the the Washington run defense has been good, you know, and we'll we'll the Browns I think they will but will they be able to run on the Washington football team to the same length? They did Against The Bangles. What about Beckham 0 to 10:00 on Beckham? I would say 7 for both for my 5 would you guys start Josh Kelly or Beckham? I would start Kelly in non-ppr to start vacuuming. I would say that yeah. All right, Cam Newton's attend. How about any Patriots running back again, Las Vegas? We still don't know if James White is playing right? So I think he's going to play. I hope to play hope everything is you know, okay with his mother obviously his father's passing his tragic. But, if he plays I start him, you know in PPR. Yeah, I I'd kind of like to wait and see what his what his role is. I'd rather I'll say one thing I would imagine if he's out there, you know, they'll try to get him something to you know, celebrate him, you know, hung up to score something to you know, make him feel good and you know, give him a chance to probably do something in the endzone celebrate his father and his mother. How about Julian Edelman 0 to 10 10 I would say eight in PBR 7 and non PPR any Vegas wide receiver add New England? 029 Hines against the Jets 113 and PPR zero and non PPR Frank Gore or George and all any jet at all know like Hogan maybe if he plays and Cracker Barrel in don't burritos might be or Barrios or whatever area say his last name would be the best jet. What about Hogan though? Like cuz Barrios have 30-yard touchdown with two with two minutes left and twenty-five points starting these guys like, you know, so many injuries out there that day. I went down that road last week with Danny Amendola. I thought Danny Amendola was going to get like sixty seventy yards and I've started him and a half PPR league and he was a dud but I don't I don't remember why I had to start him, but they you know, it was it was our Flex League, you know, you have to start to flexes. Yeah, so I don't know I could see fourteen Team league like know somebody's going to do something for the Jets. Yeah 14 think somebody may be stuck. I get that, you know, so sure shouldn't shouldn't poo poo butt. I would I would prefer hoping over burial City Place. All right. Yeah, let's let's do it. Okay, finally getting to the games Kansas City at Baltimore. This is what USA Today said about Mike panel who is back. He was suspended for two games defensive tackle for the Chiefs pedal played a crucial role for the Chiefs defense down the stretch. He was the top run-stopping defensive lineman for Kansas City and helped bring a run defense to a respectable level. So he is back and that has big state of the game. Number one Patrick Mahomes is 20th in Aries yards and 32nd in Aries yards. Per pass attempt took 9th in that category last year. So so far through two games not really throwing the ball downfield status. Yeah plus. Yeah. It sucks start of the game to Marquise Brown has six Targets in each of his first two games, but in the four games last year in which the Ravens allowed twenty three or more points, and I picked that number because I don't think the Chiefs scored Less Than Jake. Three like all year last year maybe once I don't know he had nine seven five and eleven Targets in those games. So, you know, everybody starting Mahomes you guys said you can start cam overnight and maybe some others but whatever starting Bahamas starting Lamar Jackson Marquise Brown will be a tougher call Starter Set Marquise Brown. I do think there's a chance to Target they're up this week. low-end number two wide receiver Yeah, I I wouldn't argue I would say hi and number three but it's that same range. I've got them just just inside my top 30 same range as Odell Beckham for me off the easy ones in this game are the quarterbacks Kelsey and Andrews and Clyde edwards-helaire. Right? We're going to start everyone everyone. They have a little nervous about Clyde but you're starting. Yes. Okay. I mean you start Jonathan sale over Clyde edwards-helaire Just for kicks and then I'm sure everyone starting Tyreek Hill. But how concerned are you considering? What boss has done to will Fuller and who did they destroy in week one and it can't even weak one. They destroyed Odell Beckham Odell Petco ten targets three catches, right? So what do you think about Tyreek? I dropped him out of my top five. Yeah, you're not been since Henrico. Look you last weeks of your great example of how they'll move Tyreek hill and in some different formations and moving. Around a little bit, you know, it was a lot of just Little Crossing routes and just trying to make sure they got the ball in the stands 11 targets against the Chargers. That's that's encouraging. I was good. I liked that. All right. So then that brings us to the real running backs. And yeah, what do you what are your thoughts there? The Chiefs defense should get better with Pannell and I would trying to point out Mark Ingram really got almost all of the carries until the fourth quarter of their last game and there should be there most competitive game of the year. So what are your thoughts on these Ravens running backs? I like Ingram's the only one that I would consider. Yes. I'm not you can't start any other guys in any confidence at all? I would say that Ingram is a fine Flex. He's actually off the guys that I have behind Kelly. I would rather start Mike Davis than Ingram. I would rather start Henderson unless both of the Rams backs are back. I I'd rather start David Montgomery the Ingram but he's a fine flicks. Would you guys start laviska shenault or Keelan Cole ahead of Mark Ingram in half or full PPR if torque is out for whatever reason then yes if Mark is in then no it's not like those guys have seen a huge volume of targets yet right that and I think you you what you said was appropriate. It's going to be there most competitive game for Baltimore. And so you would imagine that anger was going to be on the field. Much more so than probably Gus Edwards and and maybe JK Dobbins. So I think you just lean on the fact that there's a touchdown potential coming for Mark Ingram. Maybe the caches are up to act a little bit. I was still stick with him. Okay. Yeah, if you if you like prop bets you could see what his receiving totals are because the Chiefs they gave up the most receiving yards two running backs last year and they're already off to a terrible start allowing 32 or more receiving yards to three running backs so far into games not exactly engrams Mo but maybe something kind of sneaky. So when they throw to him he does well, it's just the throat and very much marking down Marcus Brown. Ingram in non-ppr from Pure sure any sleepers in this game Sammy Watkins or it's just Sammy Sammy took her to call. You know, he says he's healthy, right that was the interesting thing. You know, we will find out today if he practices but no no Sleepers for me. Okay. And by the way, the homes is 6 for Jamie V for Dave 7th for Heath. It's Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson Russell Wilson, Josh Allen. And those are the consensus for that are ahead of Patrick Mahomes and Cam Newton for both Jamie and Heath. Not for Dave. Okay. Well, that's yeah, I mean that's that game even though it's the most exciting. It's kind of easy with those teams. However, the Ravens DST you could try to get away from them. They are 12:00 for Jamie 10 for Dave and 9th for Heath. Only two teams suck double-digit fantasy points against to dst's against the Chiefs last year. So some of the best defenses they faced were absolutely horrible against them. So, you know, you can look for the Colts look for the Chargers some other options Dodge Rams are at the Bill's Buffalo with two and half Point favorite. The total here is 47 and 1/2. I've got two stats of the game one that probably won't influence your lineup decision in 2019. Only three quarterbacks scored more than 21 fantasy points against the Rams and so far through two games Dak Prescott. And Carson Wentz have fallen short of that March that Mark so we'll see if Josh Allen can do it. He's top five quarterback. So that's not going to influence your decision. However, this one might sound of the game that might influence your decision. The Rams are second in the NFL in rushing attempts home. So is that what they're going to try to do try to run the ball the bills run defense? Probably not as good as it's past defense see what happens with those linebackers getting healthy, hopefully, but you know, even if Brown does play, you know, what does that mean for Henderson and brown and I don't know throw acres in there as well like they run the ball a lot so far. Yeah, right question, right? I think you look at it as they're probably flexes because you don't know what Browns workload be and Henderson's probably going to lead them in in carries or touches, you know to make sure that brown doesn't re-injure his finger. So I would lean Henderson over brown but you're right. It's it's a defense that's going to be tough for this Rams offense to perform well against at least as well as we've seen cuz they were very efficient running the ball against the Cowboys and then Jerry golf was very efficient against the Eagles. This is their toughest test to date and you know going on the road back-to-back weeks East Coast West Coast East Coast 1:00 start again, you know, I could see the Rams offense struggling a little bit. They're due for a little bit of a letdown after to know start and so Buffalo can make things uncomfortable for them. Now if those guys don't play as we saw Tyler higbee should wage. Them up because my kiseki lift them up. And so you saw that's where God's production came from last week, especially with the with the touchdowns. So you gotta be a little bit concerned about Robert Woods a little bit concerned about Cooper kupp. This is a good second thoughts and you know, we'll see if if they put your davius white on one of them and who he follows. So I'd be I'd be a little cautious about this this offense for for the rims. If you want a quick rundown of what some of the early slot wide receivers that against the bills last year. Remember they played the Dolphins and the and the Jets so far so not too much to go off but slot receivers last year probably did really well. Yeah and right and your 14 catches 499 yards last year and eight catches for 66 yards in the second game Tyler Boyd 64608 Edelman for 4:30 Landry 94-97 and a touchdown, 453 Edelman 572. They did pretty well. I mean bad bad against crowd or bad against Landry, but they did pretty well. So who do you like better copper Woods? What Woods which start Marquise Brown or Mark Ingram over Cooper? Kupp? I would start Marquise Brown over Cooper. Kupp. I would start cup over Braun has been disappointing. I mean, you know last week they were forcing him the ball and he got over 100 total yards. But you know, you need him to score. That's kind of been the mo for him. And you know, he hasn't scored now into games and tough matchup. Where are the targets. It's six or fewer Targets in the eight of us last 10 games now, so it's in each of the first two games for Cooper. Kupp and then Tyler higbee, I mean, how much does the injury report matter here for Tyler heck because the bills were maybe the worst matchup for tight ends last year, but you take away to Great Lengths clears. Yeah, you take away too great linebackers and they were horrible against cuz thank you. So like how much is up in the air in terms of where your ranking Tyler higbee? When I first did my rankings that started the week had in third and then as the as you go you go through the process. I know he's does as well with this production's you kind of shift things around and now he's down to 11th. So it It's it's a big swing. You know, I don't think a lot of people are going to sit Tyler higbee. You can start Dallas Cowboys over him. They're back-to-back in my rankings. You can start down to Smith. You can start like the second you can start some other guys that you may not have considered wrong. But, you know after a three-touchdown game, it's hard to get away from Tyler he be completely especially since those guys are not a hundred percent. Yeah, I would start gesicki over him tonight. I just like the matchup might be fantastic and he might be for three touchdowns. But he's also getting like five targets a game right? It's not the same thing as what happened at the end of last year. Yeah, he had taught all five of his targets and he scored three touchdowns. I mean, that's very it's a good thing to note heat. And would you start Dalton Schultz over Mike? No guessing heck me sorry baby know and and I will say that if those guys are getting in a full practice by Friday, I would put Goddard ahead. All right. So Henderson, I think we gotta stay on Darryl Henderson for a bit. What what's the range of of where you might rank em, depending on who's available here? Let's say everyone's out. Where's Darryl Henderson, when I first did my projections with everyone out and I wouldn't have left him here anyway, because it was ridiculous. But he was my phone number seven running back. I moved him quickly down to 15th. And then when I saw the report about Malcolm Brown like he had surgery on his pinky, but they think he's just going to place. I've got Henderson. I went out brown ranked yet. I understand kind of rank like one of those guys is going to play and that's right around 25. So I think he's a low nrb to as long as it's only wage. Then it comes back if all three come back then you can't put a Rams running back in your top 30. Here's the tricky part because you're obviously playing James Robinson over Henderson. You should at least But you may consider Myles Gaskin over Henderson if those guys play and that's where I think you gotta make a tough choice. So I don't think there's that much of a higher ceiling for gasket over Henderson that you don't want to wait it out with the Rams guys. But if all three come back and you're thinking Henderson vs Gaskin, I would prefer gasket if I knew that those other together an appointment. All right, let's go to the bills here. Josh Allen is your top five quarterback. Sorry, Jamie said that's a good point. That's where you should go. Pick up. Jeff Wilson. Yeah, it was going to say that. All right sympatico. That's why we share a fantasy team Bills running backs. So long exact miles has a toe injury. I don't know if I said that earlier, but that could be big is it like you're not starting them unless mosses out and then you start Singletary. Oh single Tire would be a must-start at monsters out. Yes. I've got Singletary as a borderline start with moss playing. So yeah, he probably be a top-15 running back for me if if you divorce wasn't playing so who's the best running back in this game? Let's let's say let's say you have Moss Singletary Henderson and Brown playing who's the best running back? Single turn. Yeah. Yeah over Henderson if those guys are playing yet. The thing with brown playing is like I could see a scenario of brown being like a break glass in case of emergency type of situation like ended up going to get all the work and we don't want to risk Brown getting hurt further and I'd be shocked if with a fractured pinky after having surgery that he's playing in the passing game, you know, so Brown would be off the table for me this week wage. Unless Henderson's heard an acres is out, you know, so I just I wouldn't want to trust him at all. So he would be fourth and distant fourth, but I think the the bills guys will still be close together with Singletary slightly head because we saw week one, you know, he's he's the prefer goal-line option. Yeah. I know he's gets all the all the Reds all the green zone work Zack Moss. Okay as final question here, by the way Rampage going so far against pass-catching running back so that could help Singletary Buffalo wide receivers. Are you starting both digs and brown? I'd be a little bit more concerned about Brown just you know, that that could be where Ramsey ends up because they'll move things around the Plame inside as well so cold because he's bankrupt or something to keep in mind. You know that that he's not a hundred percent so that could change some things also, but I'm not getting away from Biggs yet, right. You gotta start Diggs. I I would say brown for me Brown in that Marquise Brown Odell Beckham range of number three wide receivers that you're probably starting. Okay, and the dst's are I guess both in play more often the for Heath. They are for Jamie and Dave. It's just the bills. Okay Houston at Pittsburgh. This is Josh. Allen stuff is test obviously yeah after the two defense he's faced. So I'm curious to see how he does and the Dolphins dropped a couple of pics last week. I thought I would expect the Rams are going to get a couple of turnovers at least real might put up 30 points again, but there should be some fantasy points for the defenses. I would think our Houston and Pittsburgh stay out of the game think I've probably given this before but in a way the Big Mac was invented in the Pittsburgh suburbs by Jim delligatti a local McDonald's franchisee. It was first sold and eating seven these stats again. I could understand why you want to make sure that I might use that one, but I got to get it in there who knows that where the Big Mac was invented now, you know, tell your friends. All right, it's already forgot. We talked about the show Pittsburgh Adams. Where's the Roethlisberger invented dead Pittsburgh Miami, Ohio DeShaun Watson, we talked about that. Jamie says, he says, he's number 11. You can start them start him over phone number. Read like waiver-wire guy, except Minshew David Johnson. We already talked about he's higher on him but might be moving him down the rankings a little bit. So he's a number to running back David Johnson David Johnson or Stefon Diggs the exact David Johnson, John Brown. Johnson Brown and PPO any interest in a Houston wide receiver this week cooks or Fuller if Fuller was out then I'd have interest in Cooks it. Is that have interest in done? It's so weird because like it we had lots of speculation about will Fuller and he definitely was getting his hamstring stretched at one point last week, but he wasn't even on the back porch. Yeah. I'm I would put I put Fuller in that like there's a big to be a big range cuz I've said a lot but I put him in the same range as John Brown and those guys boom-or-bust number that receiver the range goes from twenty to sixty. How about Jordan Akins? You know, like I said yesterday nice job when they've been chasing points. It happened in week one the late touchdown and obviously happened last week cuz they're behind Darren Fells is they're starting tight end but eakins is there pass-catching tight end off you are stuck. It's not bad. Like if you didn't pick up Dalton Schultz or Jordan read or you know, any of the tight ends that we've talked about off the wave or like I I like Drew sample for example better than Jordan Akins, but you know, he's in that group of guys that you could be looking at and certainly inside in premium Legacy should be added. I agree with that. I will the one thing I'll add just to watch for this week. Akins is currently forth amongst tight ends and routes run like he is running in that generally will eventually turn into good things. Yeah, they loved him coming out of Camp. He had a fantastic training camp and he should be playing more you should be getting more opportunities. So that's a that's a great, you know stashed I tend I drafted him in the Fishbowl. I may be playing Five tight ends this week off. They picked up to sample. I have Zach ertz and Travis Kelce and I have Dalton Schultz. I may be playing all five. All right, Ben. Roethlisberger is 12th for everyone for Dave Jamie and he 12-12-12. How about that long? You know, excellent and looked like Houston had kind of done a respectable job against Mahomes and and Jackson like neither of them went off, but they both had passed the ratings like above a hundred and thirteen so I did not know how how well they've actually done and imagine if you're the Texas and you go. Oh we get a break from Georgia. Now, we got to play a Hall of Famer any hesitancy any hesitation to start James Conner none. Okay, and then the Pittsburgh wide receivers how we feeling about them? Who's better Juju or Johnson? I've got Juju for at least one more week. I would be really nice if they throw it. Did you just a little bit more but they're both in like they're both ahead of that gigantic range that I was pushed from 2060. Okay, Jamie agreed. You just better. Yeah, I think there's going to be a squeaky wheel game coming for JuJu at some point could happen this week. It's not like catching the ball, you know, so it's just that the anti Johnson's the favorite guy right now, you know, it's it's it's kind of similar to Antonio Brown and JuJu just not Johnson's not wage level yet and we gotta you know, I'm very curious to see what this game looks like cuz I think the Texans had such a bad secondary last year, but they were so injured they're healthier now. They're still waiting for Gary and down to get back there. I don't think they're that bad, but I don't think we know yet. So let's see what happens Bradley roby's done a pretty solid job again the number once so far through two weeks. They face too great running teams to Cheers. The Ravens. Yeah, exactly. Like I do kind of feel like though and it's it's like the Sam darnold type thing. We just haven't learned anything about the Texans yet. Right? Nobody would look good job playing the Chiefs Ravens and Steelers. We do know we know they're not a Super Bowl Contender like that damned. I don't think I mean they're going to be a team that makes the late-season push, you know, because they're they're too talented in that they have a great quarterback it look you face the two best teams in football arguably. I know but the thing is like they're they're always going to be great in the AFC South, you know, but they're still interview of a degree there still a division Contender. That's of course. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm going to be open 3 and there's still a contender in their own. Yeah, for sure. Yeah last year right was last year the the Frank right game or is that two years ago? I think it was two years ago. I don't know when they over time. They were left for dead. Yeah and Frank Reich made that dumb decision and then they wanted overtime. Right. I remember Tampa Bay is at Denver. Here's one stay out of the game. Denver has held AJ Brown and JuJu Smith Schuster to less than fifty yards. Both of them had eight targets. The number two wide receivers have been great. I can't imagine getting away from God when events although he tells the outside the top twenty just interesting there right at 20, right? I tried really hard to get them inside the top-20. I fudged things a little bit cuz I didn't want to be outside the top twenty. I thought they were Twenty-One twenty-two. Okay, covid-19 and 20. Okay. Great. Both are going 402 touchdown this week. Oh, here's another set of the game. Tampa Bay has now gone eight straight games without allowing 60 rushing yards to a running back. They are however giving up the second most receiving yards to running back and that's what happens when you face Chimera McCaffrey and Mike Davis, but Melvin Gordon is pretty interesting. He came through last week. He scored but I'm good as the Steelers run defense has the Bucks are probably going to say they're the best in the NFL. They were last year. I'm going to say that why not this year starter said Melvin Gordon. Start but I would start Kelly over him in non-ppr. I'm going to start Melvin Gordon with a little bit of discomfort. All righty. Should we stick with the Broncos at the only Bronco? You're starting? Yeah, all Faith. Oh, right. Yeah, and yeah, like I really want to have Jerry jeudy and KJ hamler on my bench because I think at some point in the near future those guys could both be pretty good fans are got hurt. fans fans or Jared Cook fans and people are cooking on T. Cooks course. Stones. That's all he does. Sure. Yeah. Just want to throw out at this on fat like he's got 11 targets into games. He's been tremendous. He's got 11 targets to games and he's got his backup quarterback and didn't really bother him last week. But you know, just just just throwing it out there. We'll see what happens. We're going to sit the Tampa Bay tight ends that thrown it out. There is a good thing or throwing out there. It's bad. It's bad thing. Okay, it's a it's a kind of so highly thing but I'm not buying that he's a so high because I think he's a true breakout but I just would like to see more targets. Did you ever get him back to lead that? You draw still do Johnson? Thanks for asking by Mark Andrews. Thank goodness. But Tom Brady, I think we did it. We debated him earlier. Jamie's got him tenth. He thought a 20-second we did the 62nd rankings debate. If you want to hear that on Brady rewind check the time codes always check the time codes in the description. So let's talk about Leonard fournette and Ronald Jones what level of competence nobody's starting wage? Jones but what level of competence do you have in Leonard? Fournette? I don't think you can have any conflict like not I think Leonard fournette would be pretty damn good if they given 15 carries, I don't think you can have any confidence and who's going to get the first Carry for the bucks from I hope it's Leonard fournette, but for next to flex for me, and so it's Jones, but from my end and Jones eleventh, did I ask you marking rumor Leonard? Fournette? I don't know. I don't think I did. I was hoping that his number two running back this week. I think that you're going to get enough touches out of him in this matchup that he's going to be successful. I would start Ingram and non PPR for net and PBR any any sort of starting Jerry jeudy in PPR over Leonard fournette. No way. You're going to get a lot of targets got fifteen and two games. He's going to get more catches than fournette. This is his chance to shine. Okay, so what we going and he didn't have a great game no four catches for 56 yards. Tampa Bay's DST is top for start them up Carolina's at the Chargers Charger 6 and 1/2 Point favorites here your stay out of the game. Number one is what I thought that it just doesn't happen too wide receivers having good games against the Chargers. It's happened one time in the last two years basically instead of the game. Number two. I also gave this one the Panthers seen the fewest wide receiver Targets in the NFL defensively. So that's interesting Bridgewaters is let's go through this with a Bridgewater to sit right? Yeah. All right. You want to talk about Mike Davis? Hit me with some my name is Jamie said it really will everything's in play earlier in these types of situations. And I'd throw the Giants in here as well, Like we should be prepared to be surprised. Don't start Mike Davis over someone that you feel good about as a number to running back Mike Davis is the guy that gets you to the other guys. So like I would start him over Mark Ingram, I would start him over Leonard fournette. I would start him currently over dead Singletary. Unless Zack Moss is out. But mostly if you have two good starting running, we actually just start those guys instead the thing that you have to hold for with him is the receiving numbers off because you saw that already so you should say, okay they're going to be chasing points, right? They're going to probably do that every week. Certainly this week back to back road games for them going to the West Coast so dead. If they trusted him already, I would I know he if you want to look it up with you I'm projected for I guess probably five catches is is something that's attainable for him. Yep after he just had eight. So if he's a guy five catches, let's just say he's probably their first guy up in terms of Kerry's so 10 carries is probably on the table, right? Here's what he hasn't protected further. I think twelve actually off. Okay. So if you're going in with 15 touches in your mind already that puts them in the number to back-end Flex range to begin with So and and just think about that 15 15 touches David Johnson hasn't done that yet. Okay. Well, I mean if you're telling me is going to catch five passes going to be hard for me to keep them out of at least the flex spot, right but it's there's obviously uncertainty and we do see a lot of you know, you get these guys do you think there may be the guy and then something happens and it's just it's weird but it's hard to imagine who's taking those touches from Mike Davis from the so far the charges have done. Well two against one like him, you know, they've they've talked them up. It was an offseason of you know, where I think Jordan Scarlett was on the roster Reggie bonnafon has yet to play Dragon kannon, we know as more of a special teams sort of, you know Ty Montgomery type of player, you know, that never is going to be a feature type of guy. So Mike Davis has had that opportunity before he's failed but you know pedigree would suggest that Mike Davis is going to get a lot of work in this game. Okay. Yeah, and then I just we haven't really talked about it, but the Chargers so far have been 19 carries for 69 yards for mixin 10 carries for 38 yards for Club. Brazil are so they've been very good there. So you probably will need those catches DJ more. We're going to start Robby Anderson or Mike Davis who's a better Flex? I would play Anderson. I think I'm sorry. Play Davis. Yeah, okay, Robby Anderson or Jarvis Landry Anderson Anderson, and I know you guys don't really like Curtis Samuel is Justin Herbert yada yada yada, Austin ekeler Josh Kelly. I think we've talked about that said Herbert hecklers a start Kelly is more of a start for Jamie, but he's 20th. He's going to have Kelly like twenty six months. And then the Chargers wide receivers start out and said Williams. Yeah. Yes. Would you start now encouraged by by Alain last week? That was that was nice to see that the ten targets again and kind of game but you know now there's now there's at least okay what can Alan do with her bird under Center? You know, it's almost like the same thing with Edelman that you saw you saw what you were hoping to see in positive life. And and now you build off of that. Yeah, and I haven't had a Targets in week one too. So that that's also just didn't have a good game would start Keenan Allen or Mike Davis. Keno okay. Yeah, I'll take you know, one moment Sir Henry top for tied at Washington at Cleveland like an ankle injury. They'll just keep an eye on charger CST start them to Washington in Cleveland as a seven point favorites. So that might not be good for the passing game start of the game Dwayne Haskins sister on 64 passes and two games Terry McLaurin and Logan Thomas both have 17 targets that strong 6.6% Target share for both McLaren and Thomas. It is kind of funny to see that Terry McLaurin has like a hundred and twenty more yards than Logan Thomas, but Thomas is getting Target. That's my point. And Cleveland has been horrible against Titans. They are giving up the most points and they gave up the fourth-most points too tight ends last year how good of a sleeper is Logan Thomas in your opinion. He's good. He's you know, you look at everything. You just said targets are there match up as their he's just not, you know going to have certainly the Mark Andrews game and it took 2 title to have you know, all that production for The Bangles in week too, but it was on my desk or so. I think if you're looking at a like a six four fifty type of game systems can get you that if you're hoping for you know, if you scores you'd be you'd be very good but you know, he's just not the ceiling is just not there for him. But I think the floor is kind of okay. All right. So this game is probably fairly simple. Obviously Nick Chubb must start. We've talked a lot about Beckham and Landry Landry want to see it first becomes an okay start. We just hope they throw more. So Kareem hunt and Jacobson those guys might be interesting obviously going to start hunt over Gibson. Let's start with and turn McLaren. By the way. It's top twelve must our cat. Let's start with Kareem hunt. How much do you like in this week Heath? I'm just going to start both Browns running backs, especially in a game against Washington where I think they're probably going to run it 40 plus times. I I don't and maybe like Washington's Randy Moss has been like one of their better parts of their game so far. So maybe they'll have some success but this team averaged more than five yards per carry against the Ravens. I just think it's best Rush offenses in the NFL and you start both running backs. It's a little bit of a butterfly situation with cream hunt if you get to half-time and he has three touches, but Thor it's late in the game. It's it's been his role. So I I'm starting about and the Antonio Gibson Jamie any interest there. And it's going to be tough. You know, you were saying about the Bucks having the best run defense. I wonder if this Cleveland run defense has been to hold up all season long because they've done a really nice job so far through two games. I mean, you know Baltimore we know the Russian game is they limited the three running backs table inside the two touchdowns, but you know, the two main guys were under 3.2 yards-per-carry and then we saw them do a great job and bottling up Joe Mixon as well and so long and I don't think is on the level yet of those two scenarios. And so I would try and sit in this week. I'm extremely encouraged by what they did in week two against Arizona the fact that they met him there guy and girl that I think is something you're going to be moving forward to see him continue to get better. I wish they would throw the ball to him or I spoke to Brady Quinn briefly about this. And the reason I bring that up is Brady's one of our colleagues. He also works for Fox Sports. He called the game. So one thing he said was he didn't think that there were using him correctly for what his skill-set is but I I'll go back as I said a couple weeks ago. This is the evolution of some of these rookies, especially a guy like Gibson who's transitioning. Wide receiver to running back they're going to continue to add more to his plate. And so hopefully now we see a little bit more involvement in the passing game because that's where his stats can sort of Blossom and and continue to grow so, this is a great game to keep an eye on Antonio Gibson, but I hope you don't have to play Antonio Gibson unless you're stuck. I think that's pretty much it for this game. Which DST do you like better Washington or Cleveland? OH The Browns by Leaps and Bounds get them for spots ahead and your rankings. It's a drop off the whole. Okay? Okay. Sorry like you acted like that's like the dumbest question. I think they're going to hit. I think they'll hit Baker Mayfield a few times, right? Okay. Yeah, I like the Browns as well. I mean, I think I'm starting in one League are we got two games left guys? Let's rock and roll here with Vegas and New England. All right, so the only okay. Well, here's here's the deal right start Cam top five Guy Star Jacobs start Adelman, and who am I forgetting start Waller start Waller, so Do you think Sony Michelle scores Patriots or six point favorites? And should we at least be adding n'keal Harry? Yes coming off that big game Chad n'keal Harry for sure and I wouldn't hate flexible this week. I think he's the second best receiver in this game. Yes, for sure. I don't think this like the Sony Michelle score thing. He's not even on the field and their goal goal line package. There's no other running back on the field and their goal line package. So until that changes, I don't think you can have any hope like Sony Michel's going to score from 20 yards out. What did he do in make one or two week one? He's Gordon week one, you know, so I think there's a chance he scores but I'm with you don't want to you know Bank on it now clearly again. You're you just lost McCaffrey just lost Berkeley. You have Rams running backs that were in the mix of starting options that are down. He may be stuck. So he's clearly better in non-ppr than PPR, but you know, they're going to use Burkhead if white is back. They're going to use him, you know, so With what cam is doing and how he's operating your you need a touchdown for him to be successful. So he's in the Jordan Howard range, you know, that's just the type of player that he is right now Patriots DST 7 for Jamie V for Dave 10th former Chief and I mean, I really got my eyes on this game cuz I'm pretty sure I picked the Raiders to make the playoffs and the Patriots to miss the playoffs. So, let's see if they can put up a fight here those Las Vegas Raiders Jets and cold the same bed after two weeks knowing what the record is for. Both teams know cam is much much better than I thought it was going to be so so you would bet on the Raiders to the playoffs still there to know I would probably put the bulb Patriots in the last playoff spot and kicked the Raiders out, but I think they definitely a chance. I like the Raiders Jets a page Jessica. Let's hear the Jets are from the second-fewest plays in the NFL game of that. That's really weird losers. Adam gase is always always always so slow going place. This is a a game that you know brings backpack. Reserve the trade to get Sam darnold which worked out quite well for the for the Indianapolis Colts. I think we pretty much sitting all the Jets and not starting Philip Rivers but starting Jonathan P T Y Hilton is interesting though. He said he didn't really want to start him. Where is T. Y Hilton factor in with like the Beckham's and the Marquis Brown's of the world and I could understand if someone just looks at this age. It's defense and says, I don't care. I'm starting T Y Hilton and he has had several almost touchdowns this offense the way they play ran the system last week and Hilton got a shot in the end zone in that game. But that was about it is kind of what we expected and games that they should win easily and I just don't know that too. I Hilton's going to get more than five digits. If you were to look at these two teams, right not these two teams if you were to look at the Colts and the Texans right now. From this point forward who would you bet on to win the AFC South? I would have said the Colts at the beginning of the year. I did Rivers has looked a lot worse than I expected. Yes. That's the like you had huh? Yeah, he's been real bad. I think the Texans are better them Titans are better. Cuz I would say the Titans was fated the Titans, but now I kind of think they're going to win the division again. I think you're right, or they didn't win and and this kind of goes with Ryan Tannehill that they're not getting to do that. They probably deserve yeah might be but if it just looking at the Texans and the Colts knowing that the the Cults are probably two and one and should be three, you know after this week and the Texans are most likely oh and three, I think I would take the wage is to win the division still after that. I think I go over my situation if those are my two choices. Yeah. Well, all right. Well coached by the way start them but Jamie is a sleeper wide receiver in this game if there is one, who is it? I mean, you know, we talked about Chris Hogan and and hopefully he's hundred percent because they'll be chasing points and throwing a lot but I don't have any faith in him. Like if you have if I choose I would take Michael Pittman over both just based on the touchdown potential cuz I think he's going to see a little bit of a spike in Target Soul Zach Pascal probably the best thing for those more like Cox. Yeah, if if Jack Doyle's out again because we saw dead You know him do a nice job last week despite. The interception Four Rivers was awful. All he cocks his hands. I called him while he drops. All right monocoque says like somewhere like 16th and 17th in the rankings. So big game yesterday became Sunday five catches hundred eleven yards against Minnesota that's going to do it for the AFC home games NFC coming up tomorrow, and we will recap Thursday Night Football as well. So until then for Jamie and Heath Madam talk to you on Friday night. And also on Twitch on Friday morning rather on Twitch on Thursday night 7 p.m. Eastern switch. FM. Hey friends. I met Alfred and I'm Chris heiner together where the wrestle buddies a podcast going into the fun parts of professional wrestling. It's a celebration of pro wrestling for fans of all ages. Even if you're just getting into it now off new episodes of Russell buddies rep on Thursdays.

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2nd Mock Draft of the Season Episode 018

Fantasy Football Overtime

56:24 min | 7 months ago

2nd Mock Draft of the Season Episode 018

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime podcast I'm your host Jigs? Isky with me as always are tyler. And Matt Win? Welcome to the first July episode the fantasy football overtime podcast to kick things off this month. We're going to do another mock draft. I think that's our second one. We've got some news with. Matt, some Trivia, with tyler but I I gotta ask. Tyler you're coming back to the social media world. How does it feel well? We'll see tomorrow this year. For New Year's resolution. I decided not to set any goals or Or like resolutions I decided to challenge myself every single month. One of the month was no coffee. One of the months was to walk a lot and the month of June was no facebook or twitter. It's been it's been pretty good. I've been pleasantly surprised at it, but really looking forward to getting back to fantasy football twitter. Especially one of the months two was no alcohol. That was probably the toughest one. But that ended up lasting. What like five months old? That one ended up being a lot longer than you anticipated? Yeah, he did really well. I think you're I. Drink was a waclaw. It was man between no coffee. No alcohol and no social media like those are pretty much. My life right there. I don't know how you do it especially in a quarantine. Those are necessities as like to challenge myself. Everybody needs a little bit of challenge, and I'm really goal orientated, so I really liked to accomplish something. What's your goal for today's podcast? My goal for this podcast is to give our listeners the best advice from whatever spot where picking from all right all right I'll take that Matt. How are you today? I? Am doing well, we. My brother and I finished the bar over the weekend. I'm sure you guys can see right over there right next to you. Where is it? I can't see it. There's a born here. Yeah, so that was a lot of work, but I always wanted a bar I've always wanted a man cave so. That's the first step to it. So the second step was a TV. We just went and bought that, so we're getting there I've always wanted this man cave, and it's starting to become a reality here I'm excited for it. Yeah, looks good. Are you going to build? US recording studio next well I'll have to see if my brothers willing to. Because he was the brains behind the operation, but that would nice. Let's talk him into it. Come on in the. Recording Studio Andy We know you'll listen so yes, we need a recording studio. Whenever you get a chance. It would be nice because right now. We're sitting in my garage about eighty eight degrees, even at eight o'clock at night. So yeah, if you can hear that wind the garage doors are open because it is hot out, you're going to hear birds. You're going to hear the wind. Wind you're just GONNA have to deal with it because it is too hot to them. Doors Jake. How're you doing today? I'm good. I. Had a long day at the office came right out here to record so I'm ready to get going. We gotTA BEV on stage here so I'm ready. Let's let's rock into. Think you've got some news, don't you? I do we got overtime news. Probably the news that's on everybody's mind right now. Former Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton just signed the bare minimum contract with the New England patriots, no big surprise. Yeah, not from Utah or I think he predicted this back in April. Yeah, let me take you back to end of April I, think one of our first episodes and we talked about a little conspiracy theory, Tyler. You didn't predict this, did you? I did let me play a little clip here for Ya. It kind of makes me think of like a possible conspiracy theory, so Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay. Jameis Winston went to New Orleans Teddy. Bridgewater went to Carolina so Cam Newton. Where does that put him I, think I. Think that Matt Ryan Watches back. From that yeah, that's not really where I was going, but that wasn't a for effort wait. Are you saying he's GonNa go? You're saying going to New England right. Complete the cycle. I'm not saying, but I'm saying there. It was not saying, but you're saying war correct. Well I'm definitely saying now. Wow, and he wasn't even the favourite to land in new. England. New England was in the top three, but I mean. I'll give you credit for that I'll give you credit where credit's due now Percy, Marvin just needs to sign with the packers. That happened that one isn't going to happen. Okay, so I mean it's essentially no risk. High reward signing for the new. England patriots. It's only roughly a million dollars that's guaranteed. It's the deal. itself is worth up to a maximum of seven point five million, but there's a ton of different milestones that he needs to hit in order to actually get that, so I mean I. Think it's Actually A. A great move and we're talking about jared system being the quarterback I mean I. Don't think any of US truly believed that he was going to be the guy know. Jake took him a dynasty or something, didn't you? Jake, but I did dropped him shortly thereafter I. Don't think anybody was to set on Jarrett. Stidham, so I think it's a great move for New England. It's GonNa. Be Fun to. To See what cam? Newton can do with bill I, think they both kind of have a chip on their shoulders. Now I know on the episode with these guys. I think I was the only one on the side of New England patriots, having a better record than the box adding so, does that change your your minds now? Absolutely not no, the buccaneers are absolutely gonNA finish with a better record. Record than the New England Patriots such a bad division that I I. Don't know it's a lot closer I'll. I'll take the bucks, but it's a lot closer than it was or what is due for the value of at on the in Nikiel Harry Sony Michelle boosted a little bit like before, though we were saying at least I was that the Patriots were basically off limits like we weren't gonNA. GonNa draft any new. England patriots is here the fact that Cam Newton's air doesn't all of a sudden just skyrocket everybody up the board I mean he was an MVP in two thousand fifteen, but that was a that was a long time ago. He does have a career. Fifty nine percent completion percentage is not overly accurate. He's only had one season in his career. Over twenty five touchdown passes, but. But he provides a lot of value on the ground so fifty eight rushing touchdowns in eight seasons, so if anything I I think he might have okay value, but I don't really see Eshelman or hairy, or any of the other receivers, tight ends really gaining that much value to be honest i. see it helping the Sony. Michelle and the running backs the most because they're not gonNA defenses on the. The stack the box, so it does open up a little bit. You know a few positions up on the RB list, but I'm not sure if it's still draftable. I think it hurts Sony, Michelle the most, because he's just touched on dependent and Cams Cam is now that primary goal line back and I don't think anyone else has taken the carries from him, so I think Sony is going to. To be that work horseback still, but he the touchdown floor now scarce the hell out of me. I think the Ataman and James. White actually gets a boost here as well I. I like those two now in a full PTR. If I get those guys late, I'm okay with it. Inherited gets a boost I don't think Harry is going to be super relevant, but it's a boost from irrelevancy. The crazy thing is that I was reading some articles, and there's people out there who are thinking. Cam Newton will finish top five quarterback with the Patriots. No, that's absurd. I. Don't know where that's coming from. I've read a lot of that, too. I mean he's thirty one years old now. He basically missed the entire twenty nineteen season. He's going into a new offense for the first time in his career is receiving core really. Isn't that good like I don't know where this top five or even top ten? Ten conversation is coming from. He is not going to finish inside the top ten. Those people are thinking that we're getting prime old camp before the injuries double-digit rushing touchdowns, because that's what's it's GonNa, take to him to get into that top ten, but I don't think he's going to get that many I. don't yeah. What's his rushing floor? Five hundred yards at the most I think I mean. He's old battling injuries. Yeah, that's right pretty close. I haven't got another chance to stay him on, but yeah. Yeah. That's the big thing you hit there. He's coming off of an injury and I. Don't think you'll be ready for regular season, or maybe he will, but that's like pushing the timeline. When I was just reading something to that says he doesn't even have the starting job locked up like it's not all of a sudden Cam Newton's here and he's the guy for sure like we all assume it's Cam Newton. He's probably going to be the starter, but he still has a quarterback competition. Instead them, yeah I. I mean supposedly like that's what they're. They're saying out of the camp already is that Newton has to earn it and I mean. They only invested a million dollars in a game of guaranteed money. So it's a it's a great signing. It's a essentially no risk reward signing I like it, but let's not get too crazy with our expectations on Cam. Newton here. I think the new. It's not his job as if he's. He shows up not healthy, but I don't know I. Don't have much faith and. Beating out cam either all right, let's move on to our next piece of news. We're not going to go too far. Though or actually staying with the New England patriots so if you remember last year, the New England Patriots were on the wrong end of a videotaping incident. No yeah isn't that crazy. There's such standup dynasty never cheated. Yeah, here's a craziest part. Though it was a game that consisted of the bengals against the Browns, the Patriots were filming. A bengals verse the Browns football game and they got caught. The punishment just got handed down this week. It's really not that severe, but here's what it ended up being. The Patriots will pay one point one million dollars club fines. Fines, they'll lose a twenty twenty one third round draft pick and the Patriots TV crews will not be able to shoot a single game during the two thousand twenty season. Yeah, it's just ridiculous at how many times they have been caught cheating at this point, all that tells me is that there are film and the Bengals and the Browns means that they've been filming every other team as well. They just happened to get caught during that game. Absolutely yeah, because water. Are You specifically scouting team that I think one two games? Yeah, that's one hundred percent spot on. They've been filming every single team every single game and yeah. They just got caught, so I'm surprised at the League didn't. Didn't down as more stiff punishment, because this continues to happen with the Patriots, organization moving onto our last piece of News Antonio Brown to the bucks, rumors were heating up, and then they quickly stopped. We also had rumors of Antonio. Brown, going to Baltimore, and then those fizzle out quickly as well so my question to you guys. Do we see Antonio Brown in the NFL and twenty twenty? Yes, or no, no, no, but he has a better chance than Josh Gordon. I don't know about that part. I don't either s an interesting. Yeah. We talked about this probably ten episodes ago. Yeah, but the marijuana policy is. They're not testing for anymore, so that should put Josh Gordon back in. In their Antonio Brown's had nothing to do with marijuana. He's just psychotic true. Yeah. I think the Brown might have to face suspension if he comes back so I think that might be part of it as well, but I don't know we'll see they're both. Shouldn't if either one of them get on a team? Make sure you pay attention if they're in a suspension or not before you even touch them in a draft, Tyler. Let's do some Trivia Trivia with tyler. We are back with some trivia. What's the theme of today's Trivia? The theme of the Trivia is looking at twenty nineteen four point PPO. Fantasy players I'm GONNA. Give you some clues on who I am a boy. Okay, this could get ugly. But if you answer wrong out. The other person, so we're not rapid fire guessing here because there's only they're all the top ten, so there's only ten okay, so top ten running back quarterback etc to end. Just go ahead and say your name how many clues you have for each player like four or five. Let us know if you're on. The final clue might be hard. Yeah, all right well I made them easy with the final clue, so let's good. Sorry. I might need it. I want to hear. I was a top ten running back. I went to college at Western state. Colorado. I am five ten two hundred pounds jake. Awesome after. That is right. Work all right so the next one I am a top ten receiver and went to college at Penn. state I am six to two hundred and twenty pounds I was a second round pick in two thousand fourteen with Marquees Lee. No Dice Ha. I am Alan, Robinson I cannot think of what school he went to. I will say that he was the I guess I was going to throw out there, but I couldn't think of the school and I thought it was a bigger one, so share I'll all right. I was a top ten quarterback I went to college in Wyoming. Jake I- Josh. Allen Yep. You are correct in Wyoming one. Away I was waiting I was waiting for Texas Tech. Matt with buzzing. I thought to try to get something for Patrick Mahomes, but it would have been just as quick as the giants. What is pretty easy to so? Jake is up to nail. We might actually not see Matt's eighth win. He's still at what seven wins pressure is at seven seven wins among. All right I was a top ten tight end I went to college at South Dakota State Jake Dallas guttered. You are correct. That one fun fact just not. Tyler was given his name by his father, who was a cowboys fan. Weird also got punched in the face in South Dakota. Yeah, FULL CIRCLE! This was gonna be a hard one. I thought I was the number one individual defense. If player, so, I ep I went to college at Texas am six one to thirty six and I played for the cardinals. Jake! Chandler Jones that is incorrect. Is there any more clues? No, that's it. There was a cardinals player that finished number one overall ass here and it wasn't Chandler Jones nope. Linebacker I want to second guess once he's done just if he doesn't guess right I don't know I'm. I'm struggling to find an answer on this camp passing. Is it a Buddha Baker, it is not shoot I. Know he had a good year, too. I can't think of who their other linebacker would've been Jordan, Henderson. Sure, I wasn't getting her. She plays middle. LINEBACKER forum. That's insane. Think he must had a ton of tackles and stuff. Yeah, I was knocking that one well I mean. How often do you play ADP leagues? I was in one last year. Fun Fact. Deny deny he was the leading scorer though. Cool well, that is all I have. It looks like God. Jake. The W.. I didn't even like have a gas at any of those ones new. Jake beat me to the Buzzer, and it looks like what the record now is like four and seven. Yeah, I'm slowly making a comeback. Ten and three I think I got four four I'm ten and four all right. I'll give you seven. We have official record now well. Shall we jump into the the all draft? Yup, we should. We should get started here. We're GONNA do a fifteen around twelve team full PBR. We're doing no kicker and defense, and then we added an extra flex position just to make things a little bit more interesting with the number of players that we draft. We're GONNA use that draft randomized to select our position right now, so we're going to be. Be Somewhere one through twelve one out one through twenty. Two I don't know your obsession is with the one through twenty two today I don't know all right all right. Let's do it here. We go number eleven all right. Let's put us in here at number eleven. We're also going to be doing this on sleeper. So if you have questions, we are doing on these sleeper. APP, buddy, a prefers sleeper. Jake. I like it because it. It gives me a little bit more control of the mock draft room and I don't have to wait for losers. Who liked to wait till the clock runs out to make their pick? That's the worst. Yeah. It makes doing a mock draft impossible so i. like doing it with an intelligent Ai. Make It more realistic as well so I like it overall more than waiting for people on ESPN, so we're using sleeper. Cope all right you. You guys ready. We're ready. Let's do it. Did we say we're just? We're doing this together. We're not doing separate ones, oh. Yeah, that's right. We should say that we are doing one team, so we will be discussing our picture coming to a consensus on each one. Do you think there'll be a lot of consensus? I have a feeling. We'll do probably six Pixar ob they all on the same page. Okay, we'll find out let's. Let's get into this all right, so I just started a woolsey. How this goes all recap some of the pictures to show you who went off the board all right so first off Chris McCaffrey no surprise, real quick Barkley, to Kamara, Zeke Michael Thomas I receiver off at one five Cook, Henry, Drake, tyreek, Hill Davante Adams I'm disappointed with the drake. Pick me to wow, that is super early. I'm glad he's off the board. So I don't have to listen to. You Drool over. All right, so we are at one eleven. We're looking at Nixon, Jacobs Julio Hopkins Chubb Probably the top people off the board. Would he guess thinking I think we go running back? Yeah, I, think we definitely lockup are running back here. We take a look at our rankings we're. We're pretty split between mixing and Jacobs for the next spot here I think most people are going to be split between Nixon and Jacobs Kinda WanNa know why not Julio here that such a high floor, just a volume king, and like that first round. Pick getting just that super-safe. super-safe floor while I'll tell you why because we risk picking Julio here we risk Jacobson mixing in the next two picks. Then we're locking sanders. Is that true? Yeah for me? Running back is king, and if if those two, Arby's go off the board next to pics, then yeah, we're. We're stuck to take another wide receiver, but if we go with mixing or Jacob's here were more than likely. They're getting Julio Deandre Hopkins or Chris Godden on the way back, or if he goes wide receiver wide receiver one twelve to one. Then we'd have a we get mixing. For sure so, who do you guys want higher here? I think the PTR. He has a little bit more ceiling with the PR than Jacobs does so that'd be my vote me, too. Yeah I like mixing here. Lock in mixing and see what happens mile, sanders and then Josh Jacobs so now we're back we. We have Julio on the board running backs. If you want to look at that Chubb. Next Highest. Dylan's Aaron Jones, Kaleo or Diop my votes Lou I personally like deandre hopkins more, but I I mean. Julio isn't an offense that he's been consistent. Deandre Hopkins is going to a new offense, so there's a little more risk with it. I think Deandra, Hopkins says a higher ceiling this year but I think Julio has a safer floor. We preach drafting safe floors and the the first couple around, so I'm perfectly fine with Julio here. Same with Julio for the exact same reasons are but high floor. We have to have safe pick and round one and two and who knows maybe this'll be the year Julio gets double digit touchdowns. I doubt it never happens. I probably reach mahomes goes to five rape before that though was Chubb Hopkins Jones. Godwin Clyde Edwards Layer, and then four net Lamar's coming off the board one of these next couple of picks, yeah, for sure Todd Gurley, went travis Kelsey at the two to twelve, and then coming back on the third. Round Mike Evans Love Bill, Kenny, G., Melvin Gordon, George Kibble Odell, theline, Cooper, Lamar, and Juju couple of surprises there quarterbacks went tight ends. When yeah, so let's kind of look through the second round here mahomes definitely went early. We've talked about I. Mean everybody knows how much I love homes, but that is. That's a little earlier than he should be going. Clyde Edward D. Layer went at two nine I mean that's about where he's going now. We've talked a lot about where we're. His ADP is ended up. I think it's going to be pretty consistent with that. The Leonard Fournette pick to ten. You love to see that when you're not the guy doing that when I'm drafting I love seeing that, but I do not draft Leonard Fournette in the second round. You guys. How are you taking Lenny over? Todd Gurley, yeah then. Then, todd, Gurley and Travis Kelsey one even love belt. Three to I think that's a little early in round three. There's some some dicey wide receivers off the board here a lot of boomer bus. We have Mike Evans Kenny Golladay Odell. Beckham Junior Adam Feeling Amari Cooper and do that. Was The boomer bust round? Apparently that leaves us looking at I. Mean if we're going running backs. David Johnson. James Connor Chris Carson Johnny name's Connor Jonathan Taylor's single terrier moster yeah. Super early, though I think in the boomer boss. We said we'd take them in the fourth. Yeah, wide receiver Allen Robinson, Cooper Cup Dj More Kelvin ridgely man. There's some great wide receivers. That's why it's hard. It's hard for me to pass on that running back in the second round because you're still looking at these wide receivers available on the board like Alan Robinson Dj more. Calvin Ridley aged, Brown. Decay met Catholic. Salata. In this range, but if you're looking at those Julio or Troub- Jones or I think he just has such a safer floor with Julio Yeah. You do. Running backs ran super-quick. What do you think about locking up DJ? More right here because we're up in two more picks, so the Connor Carson Taylor Moster David Johnson one of them are going to be there on the way back. We think in DJ Moreover Ellen Robinson I like they're both right next to each other in the rankings for me Alec them both a lot to tyler. What do you think in here last week? Tyler said DJ, moreover anybody. Dj More I in my most recent. Let me see what I have here. My most recent rankings I haven't been wide receiver eat. Where do you have Allen? Robinson I have Allen Robinson way down like wide receiver twenty. Wow, all right, so I guess we're. We're going DJ more here. That is like that. Yeah, I like Dj more here. Let's come them up I love Calvin Ridley, too, but I don't want Julio and Ridley so right. That makes more pretty obvious. Alright, so team twelve Mile Sanders Josh Jacobs. James Connor Chris Carson. They went running back heavy there at the at the next turn beyond. That's running back. Arsenal little aggressive like. Like I love having a bunch of running backs I don't think I would have done the Chris Carson pick there, though I would've gone one of the top wide receivers when they already had sanders Jacobson Connor Hey I understand wanting those arby's I. Guess Rb Goes Quick, so you gotta get them while you can, but yeah, they did leave Allen Robinson there. If we do want to dabble with the third wide receiver in full PR, yeah I think we did want James Conner here, but he just went. Went, off the board, so if we address wide receiver here, we're GONNA have a running back and three wide receivers. We are going to have to hit rb hard the next couple rounds, but it's probably the right move to make because the value right now is lying with going with Allen Robinson. Does it just means that? If we like value in the next round, a wide receiver, we cannot go that way. We have to come away with rb next our next round. One hundred percent, but I think coming. Coming around in the fifth moster. Montgomery Hunt digging. One of those will fall I think so. We need one of those to follow us all right, so we lacking in Robinson year at four to yeah, we can't pass that value here. Okay sounds good Allen Robinson it is as tempted with AJ Brown there too, but Robinson and a pr you. You have to give him the nod. Yeah, that I can't believe. He fell that far and there go all the running back. Those names running backs. So to finish out round four array after US went David. Johnson Devon singled Terry Kelvin Ridley Jonathan Taylor Mark Ingram Cooper Cup David Montgomery Rahim Oester. AJ, Brown Kim Acres for twelve will surprise I. Think you see yeah, anything other than all of our running backs disappearing quickly office board. One left. There goes cream hunt man there they go. That's the risky ball game. You play not drafting your running backs and going wide receiver heavy, so let's see what we're looking at here yep so round five. Kyle Murray T Y, Hilton Metcalf like that big Sutton Kareem Hunt there goes her last running back Mark Andrews Dak Prescott Keenan Allen Robert Woods. Tyler Lockett any surprises there metcalf over lock it again. Continue to see it. People love it. I don't know I I'll take the value. Unlock it if he's going to go second I mean that's. That's a I would have been really hoping for him to follow us if we hadn't taken a running back last round, but obviously they did not fall, so let's see what we're looking at here. We are in a spicy spot here. Yeah, we're in a rough situation here. We're looking at de'andre swift. Damian Williams Darius guys jk Dobbins Roggio. Keyshawn von Range Right. Now I say we wait again and get Jordan Howard. You Love Jordan Howard I do well. What are you seeing if we wait if we shark? Yeah, say if we don't we're looking at. Waller charq scary Terry digs marquees brown aged green peaks your interest there. Tyler near not take. I will quit this mockery now. Damien Williams gets a starter for maybe a couple of weeks. Maybe I mean if we're passing on running back right now. Just simply due to value I think we have to either go Erz or waller, because they are significantly, the best players left at their position, but that goes against. You know kind of what we're saying with. HOW DEEP THE TIGHT END! End Position is so do we go swift, because we do have pretty safe players here I would say I mean we. We have super saint like we have probably one of the safest floors that you can have. Yeah I. I like what we have here so far. I think we're allowed to take a home. Run Swing I think my vote would be swift, or can we wait until? We. They're not going to take on look at their. They have four running back so they they gonNA. Take two more running backs well. If we're looking at I mean I don't know what are our next pick is going to be, but we're looking. Are we looking at waller or irks or are we going to wait on Titan? Because if we're looking at one of those tight ends than we go swift, because the next team isn't GonNa take two tight ends in real. No, I don't think they're going to take a running back either, but you never know that my guess is. They'll charge maclaurin kind of what I'm thinking there. They go yeah, four running backs, and then yeah, you got. Receivers so I. Don't think we can. I think we can really make a wrong decision here unless worth thinking, we want another wide receiver on the next turn, but I it sounds like we're. We want these running back and yeah, we are secure a wide receiver. We need to address other positions. I'm down for a to flex to. Yeah, remember we do have to flexes, so we can only. We can start four wide receivers. If we need to. At this point, it's like we might have to. All right, so we have two minutes left. What are we thinking here with? This pick I think we lock Indiana Swift. We need to get some running backs on the squad. Swift Holler be I guess we can take some risk here. I think with the way it set up though with us being able to play for wide receivers. It's non the end of the world to take another wide receiver here I. Don't disagree with that strategy at all. Either I like shark and Maclaurin both more than the tight ends, and like we have Philip Lindsay. Come way down. I mean that's not huge, but Jordan Howard James White Braida yeah, I. Don't think we want any of them. As rb to. Though doe I think we need. I'll take but swift. Who knows if he's GonNa even what is share is going to be. I mean that's the risk we take. That's the position we're in. We take a one. Two three and four. This is where we're at I'm okay with whatever order we want to take them in, but I. we need swift and one of them, so we can just lock them is like a swift cow lock him in to Shawn Watson, and then shark went at the turn, so we're back on the clock. We're in a similar situation. Erz Waller Russell Wilson Terry maclaurin top people are at the top of the. The board here next running back is Damian Williams, I think we already discussed. We're not going that route. I think we wait on running back now that we at least have to. There's a lot of running backs that are kind of lumped together in the same spot that we should be able to get one or two of them in the next way back so this point. I think we go best available player of whoever. Whoever we think that is Teri McLaren to me. The vote is Terry I wanNA. Wait on Titan. We've been preaching that I. Don't think hurts gives us that potential site down on arts this year. I think he's safe, but I don't think he has upside to win us. The League and I want upset at this point. We have safe I like waller more than Earth's, but I'm fine going with McLaren here all right I. I got maclaurin Yup. Let's do chlorinate is so quick recap of our team Joe Mixing Julio Jones. Dj More Ellen Robinson De'andre, Andrea Swift, and Terry maclaurin, so we're looking good at the wide receivers and are flexor filled, and our flex are filled well as our starting running back. Hopefully we get a steal later. We had a tight end in Q. qb heavy round. There's ECKERD staring waller. Rossio Wilson and drew brees off the. As well as your boy AJ Green Tyler. There we go boy, a quick recap around six Erz screen Waller Parker Digs Russell Wilson, drew brees Darius Guys Damian Williams. Keyshawn von anything surprising. They're super early for guys I don't get it at all. It's not yeah I. Mean at this point. You're just taking flyers. Dairies, guys Damian Williams an Keyshawn von, like I'm not really high on any of those three, neither I don't like it. It I also don't like going. The quarterbacks that early bounce achieve peace of that offense. If it's GonNa be what it's hyped to be. They don't like to run running backs like Bruce Arians does not run running backs in their rookie season though he never has so I'm just worried about his playing time. Long term I think he's going to be a stud. I don't know about. About this year. If he can pass block, you'll see the field. That's what we've learned about. Bruce Arians, as he wants the people on the field that can protect the quarterback the most, so if he can pass, he'll be out there, but you don't get fantasy points for pass blocking now behalf even go back and look at David Johnson barely on the field as a rookie just because. Because, that's that's his style. It's doesn't like to expose rookies early, so we'll see I think he schon. Von is a lot of potential long-term, but I'm I'm worried about him. In the twenty twenty season round seven. There was a a good mix of different positions here, so we had Jarvis Landry go I'm just GonNa go through all the wide receivers Jarvis. Landry brand, cooks and Marquees. Marquees Brown went and around seven. That's pretty standard with where we've been seeing them. Go Jarvis Landry in the seventh round. That value is awesome. We keep talking about is one of the most underrated players and football, and he continues to get it done year in and year out so great value in the seventh round there jake. You talked about Brandin cooks in the last episode I think. Think you said he's been a top fifteen hundred and three the last five years, so there's potential there with him being the the new number one in Marquees Brown. There's also a potential with him. Being a the number, one wide receiver for Lamar Jackson, yeah actually looked up to brandin cooks that after I, said it was actually four of six years, rookie year and then last year. Year with the injuries were the only two years atop fifteen wide receiver so pretty crazy stat brandin cooks that I actually did not know. We had some more running backs go jk. Dobbins is off the board. He's a high risk high reward player. He might not do much, but if he gets a shot to shine, he's going to be an absolute star Ronald Jones should have the. The starting role over Keyshawn von and then Tyler Jordan Howard went one pick before us there. Yeah, it's disappointing for us to have Jordan Howard go off there and then three tight ends as well Evan Ingram Rob Gronkowski and Jake your sleeper, the Year Hayden hearst off the board and the seventh round I gotTA. Tell you if he's going to the seventh-round. That is not sleeper status. Like that, that's too high, but I do love hate and hearst, but I am not taking him in the seventh round, and then the only quarterback that went around seven was Tom Brady. He was the eighth quarterback off the board. Both gronk and Ingram going there, just drafting based on name. People want peace that Tampa Bay offense, and if you look at it now, there's only four teams haven't drafted a tight end yet and what that tells us as we can. Can wait a long time unless we're in love with tight end right now which I don't think we are, we can wait until late and continue to address running back wide receiver or quarterback here. Yeah, so what position we looking at here and pull up the running backs real quick Marlon Max Sony Michelle Alexander Madison James White are the top available with Matt Britos well in that Territory Cohen Coleman Lindsey Kerryon Johnson. We probably don't want that sincerety of swift. Point I think that obvious pick is a guy. We never even talk about, but I think it might be Marlin Mack, who still the starter in Indianapolis behind the best offensive line in football should give us at least a good week. One starter, for sure, which is what we can't say about swift, so I mean it's very possible that Jonathan. Taylor comes in and. And takes over, but what week is that going to be but yeah I mean Marla? Mac is still technically the guy, so we're getting starting running back in round eight here. Yeah, I like it. especially swift might not take over right away, so he might not get a Lotta touches and Mac could get us through weeks. One to type thing go will all. All Lock in Mac and let's see what pick twelve does here. Tyler higby Indiana Johnson at the turn I don't think we're looking to either one of those, so no nothing hurting. They're all right now. We look do we want maybe load up on another running back. We want wide receiver. What are you guys thoughts here? I mean just looking at this. This just call it like there's still some good wide receivers on the board, and that's why I'm I'm hesitant to go with a wide receiver heavy approach early in in the first couple of rounds because you still got Michael. Gallup Tyler Boyd Julian Edelman. Darius slate like you have some good wide receivers out there. Do you still on the board right now? Technically? It's and then when you go to the running back position like you're looking at Sony Michelle Alexander Madison James White Matt Brita to Cohen Kevin Coleman, like the dropoff between wide receiver and running back is crazy here, so we're all. If you go up and look at our options, so you're saying when we took Julio, Jones job I mean if you're so big on hunt, trump isn't going to get done. Aaron Jones is going to have a rough year, so it would've been awesome. It's not as much the Julio I think it's where we took. Dj More I think we should have gone James Connor over Dj more. More at three eleven, because then we could have either gone with Alan, Robinson Aj Brown Cooper Cop Dj more had gone, but especially the way this guy draft. anyways, we ended up. He was going to take running back, so we would have gotten DJ more anyways, but I mean you never know it can vary and every single draft. Obviously, so yeah, definitely at non running back wide receiver positions. We have hunter Henry Matt Ryan Aaron Rodgers Nothin Josh. Allen nothing I'm excited about their. I think we almost have to take wide receiver again. Yeah, this point where either taking a fly on a running back or discontinuing Gallup. Gallop. Boyden Deebo I think Gallup is our best bet salary of preference on any of them. Yeah, I'll take Gallup over buoyed. Okay I will give that pick to you guys. Gallup there. What What round you thinking that we should start looking tight end and quarterback I mean we. We preach the weight approach. Wait for sure on Titan or waiting. There's so many out there. We still have Matt's boom fant my boom in. China, Smith Donald Smith really good at forgetting. People's your especially your guys. Yeah, so you're going to get a couple of people had double up on Titan, but most people won't I mean you really shouldn't. You should not have to tight ends on your team in the first nine rounds. This guy just did that, but there's only a second to. There's only three teams. Don't have a tight end, so yeah. I'm perfectly fine continuing who went off the board. Board here so in round eight. We're looking at Matt. Ryan Sony Michelle Depot Alexander Madison to the Non Cook owner actually one pick before the cook owner Aaron Rodgers Map, Breda Tyler Boyd Philip Lindsey latavius Murray's Tariq Cohen early. Like the Cohen pick actually in a full PBR think he's GonNa. Be Surprising. If you're the cook owner, you got to see your handcuff. Go One rape before you. Yeah, that's pretty early like the eighth round, but I mean it makes sense right now with the cook. Hold out kind of looming still, but yeah, that's what we've been saying. If you. If you take cook in the first round, make sure you go out and get Madison and prioritize in guy did not. You might want I'm curious if you would've taken them. Them, the very next picker, not yeah I know. Unfortunately we won't find out. I would assume you would have had to round nine. We had a ron of some wide receivers Darius in well Fuller McColl Hartman Than Hunter Henry. Julian Cattleman Josh Allen. That was pretty good value there. I think James White Jerry Judy Kevin Coleman Marvin Jones I. Love the slate. Slate and picket nine one I think he's got a lot of potential I really like the McColl Hartman. Pick obviously Evan region for for quite some time I hate the Hunter Henry Peck, and that goes back to what we were talking about two, so this guy drafted Ingram in the seventh round felt the need to go out and draft another tight end in. In Hunter, Henry Back Up Evan Ingram since he's injury prone. It's just a waste of a couple of picks right there. Yup, and this is what I was afraid of with us. Taking galp at two CD lamb fell to US perfectly, but we definitely don't want to double up on both, so we'll see what we're looking at here. We're looking at lamb. Manual Sanders Kerryon. Johnson Henry Rugs Jamison crowder Carson wentz Trish in Kirk Zach Moss carry on I thought about it then we have whoever runs the ball for the lions very unexciting Detroit. Backfield hopefully swift changes that I just heard a stat that the lions have not had a seven seven hundred yard rushers since two doesn't thirteen. That was Reggie Bush. Who was there last one thousand yard rusher that makes sense he thinking here and I don't know this is where there's a lot of different routes that. That you can go I think I mean the Carryanne pick. Make sense because were handcuffing De'andre Swift but I think there's a lot of potential Zach Moss airs well, so I'm kind of torn between those two I think at this at this point, I will say this. We were one of two teams. That does not have a quarterback. Then we can wait although I do like the wentz value here. Yeah, I still like whence. Stafford and Daniel Jones were getting to the point where people are gonNA. GonNa Start taking backup quarterback, so we do need to move on that probably with one of our next two picks. What about? Big Ben just worried about his injury yeah I. Don't know I like I like once a lot in this area I. Think I do, too, if I mean. This guy's already got to Shawn Watson after us, but if he was to take off the board, then are starting options. Start looking a little slim here. Yeah I could see this guy running back. Though, so I. I think if we want carry-on, we take him here and then I'm okay if we take once the next pick if you guys are. Are you going to be more upset? If we miss out on whence or carry on based off, are running back room i. think we just need running back so much more that I'll live if Wentz goes and what's the difference between Stafford and went right I mean I think once definitely has a higher ceiling, but I think that the both are similarly projected. If we get if we get carry on, and then Wentz does go than we got. We got the lion's offense. that. If, let's say if whence we just punt the court about all. We don't punt, but we wait longer. We get Daniel Jones or Big Ben everyone on board I mean not really, but I'll roll. All right well. What do you guys think? Is the presser more pressing need carry on her once which we take I I'm just not very big on. Carry on in the first place so. Thrown though but I think I Zach Moss more than the only reason why it's even a consideration is because we took swift, but well. Yeah, I mean. That's one hundred percent mosses I. got a lot more potential wreck. What are your thoughts I like? Carry on just because we have swift. We don't know what's GonNa do be there, so we're going to have a starting running back for yeah. A poor running team with Moss Single Terry is GonNa Start. I gotTA side Tyler. I like to carry on pick and we'll say Matt Wheel. You on, get doing all right. We're taking Kerryon Matt. Pick and one twelve took wentz and rods. Boy See. That's the that's the dangerous. Now we can take Moss how in the world you take whence God. That's what I was worried about all right well. We're not taking Stafford I would say Zach Moss. Christian. Kirk kind of the more to appealing options here in my eyes. Daryl Henderson's also kind of down there I mean I think the best player on the board at this point CD lamb, but yeah, we already have gala Solomon a tough pick to what about Emmanuel Sanders Wide Receiver to I would take Moss. Demand I would take moss or Kirk I like both of their upsides more. Yeah, let's let's Go Zach Moss Moss all. Are you onboard? Alan Cutlass was Matt, Scott. We're GONNA. To be the next. Yeah Bartha. Go Go moss all right. There goes CD lamb manual, Sanders, Matt Stafford, Christian Kirk Jared Cook crowder Daniel Jones. Daryl Henderson boy. I hope couple more quarterbacks. Don't go off. Ears could get ugly Austin Hooper Noah. Who Fans there big? Ben? Well we talked about it. It got ugly and borough and lock. Ova All right, so a winter around ten will run through around eleven hero Quick Big Ben Twenty Pollard Justin Jefferson Anthony Miller Joe Borough to Sean. Jackson I like that a lot in the eleventh drew lock. The hime hines, Preston Williams and then chase edmunds. WHO This is ugly boys, so people are starting. Hill. who were not doing the Tannahill? Johnny Smith Stack so now teams are doubling up on quarterbacks and titans right now god, we might be going Tina Hill. Well. The Nice thing is is we're at the point where we are essentially punting the quarterback position and we'll stream if we need to. Although I'll tell you what we kind of a cheat code built in here, we can take Cam Newton. If we want, it hasn't updated yet. I mean I think we have to take Jimmy G. Philip rivers. You still there, too. I mean we. All guys never mind we. Wouldn't you wait? About this no way God all right I mean you guys every pick so I? Get One and it's going to be Tannahill Danielle. Why do I say that meant you? Should we just go tannehill I mean I just say we wait at this point. How long do we keep waiting? We have we were ten rounds in, and we have five running backs and five wide receivers might be time to pull the trigger on a quarterback and tight end here I mean I don't think so yet. We got Antonio Gibson Michael Pittman Junior jalen rigor. Michael Junior still sitting out there. We have some. We got some potential upside picks here like when if you look at the quarterbacks, Tanna Hill Golf. Jimmy G. Philip Rivers. They're all pretty much. Do Cam Newton. They're all pretty much in the same bucket of where they're going to finish points. There's a ton of options there. The second most accurate quarterback NFL history still on the board and kirk cousins and we'll leave on. There was going to say. Let somebody else. Pick that one I don't know, I just think we got some other upside picks I think we can wait locked tight end. Guess Seki got hurt or Smith. I personally would rather go Smith. I'm cool with Smith or give Zach I. WAS GONNA. Say Smith or Goddard. Yes I have Smith. But not everybody has them might be able to get Johnny on the way back like in twenty picks from now but I mean at this point. We should probably just take the guy if we want him. I would just go johnny Johnny. Blake Darwin is still there. Pass. Some guy named Elijah Wellman who plays tight end slash running back for the Green Bay packers. I I like John and lock them up. We take your. Let's get a tight end on the board. We have a tight end folks. It is Johnny Smith. Eleven rounds in and Justin Jackson and Jalen regular went at the turn, so we're still looking at Gibson. Pittman Junior Sterling Shepard Pittman junior and. Junior high might be easiest pickwick fat today, Michael, Pittman, Junior. Come on quarterback. Make it back to us all right so round twelve we it went Jalen Raider, and then we took Michael Pittman Junior, couple of running backs from out the board Duke Johnson and tell Antonio Gibson from Washington then a run of wide receivers went John Brown Brandon Sterling Shepard. Boston Scott went the running back for Philly Bershad Perriman then Ryan Tannehill off the board a Seki and And then Anthony McFarland junior to round round twelve round thirteen. We had Carlos Hyde Jimmy Garoppolo, Baker Mayfield AP Adrian Peterson TJ Hodkinson Aj. Dylan Dallas Qatar Damian, Harris jared goff in Kirk cousins and we are on the board. What are we looking at for quarterbacks here? Boys Philip Rivers Teddy Bridgewater minhsiu car. It didn't help that. Every single team has two quarterbacks now. Every every team in this league said go to quarterbacks. We have to go Philip rivers. We owe you. Ones is going to be your one I mean this should just be like a group consensus or not actually going to start Gardner Men's shoe. No. Rivers all day. We have to draft rivers. Artem community is Philip Rivers. That as my one. Two well, you're out of ones because we're in round fourteen, so we have two picks. Laugh I'm going to get creative here so Sammy, Watkins and Mike Williams went to finish out the third and start the fourth respectively. We have a quarterback. We have tight no need to draft another so looking here at value Golden Tate, I like Rashad Penny. Antonio Gandhi Golden Yeah. I like Antonio Gandhi golden a Flyer at this point during. During ten Evans Nikiel Kyrie Curtis Samuel Robbie Anderson Alma czar, t Higgins Dede Westbrook. Yeah were haunted RENFRO. Paris Campbell Woo I liked that we already got pittman, so so if one of them's relevant, these are what seven thrive receivers do as like going with a seventh wide receiver. Do you WanNa? Try taken a flyer on like a Blake Darwin to see of Hammer John. Can panel normally don't keep two tight ends, but. With the strategy we've gone with taking quarterback. So late were pretty stacked on running backs and wide receivers. Now Yeah I don't mind. I ten picks were running backs and wide receivers, so we should be set there and one more than likely going to end up just wanting quarterback. I mean we're also talking about we possibly dropping these guys shortly after the season so I think that I don't know. Know. Which one do you think presents more upside, a tight ender Paris Campbell? That's where I think the discussion is jar winner Paris Campbell? I mean I think Paris Campbell has more upside, but we also have Julio Dj more. Allen Robinson maclaurin Gallup amp. Pittman junior like I. don't even know when he would ever even sniff our lineup. Injuries happen a lot of them though art. Yeah like Jon. Locking Darwin I'm Hi I'm Blake Darwin this year for getting them in the second to last round. Absolutely I mean. Yeah, we'll see I mean. He's got wide open or a possibility. Although targets, they have available, and just that offense in general, I mean yeah, it's a great offense with with targets to go around, so it's a, I don't think there's worse picks. That's for sure there is worse bex that's for sure, so finish off round fourteen Golden Tate Rashard Penny, Daring Tha Evans. Nikiel Harry Antonio Gandhi Golden Jamal Williams L., Schon Jeffrey Jack Doyle, Almaz Art and Larry. Fitzgerald Lot Lizard himself yeah there. There he is my biggest takeaway from this round. Is actually like the Keel hairy like to get stab? You never know it might might click with Cam I like the Antonio Gandhi Golden Pick. He is asleep or to to keep your eye on this year I think he's a sleeper. I'm just not excited about having anybody on Washington. Yeah, that's understandable, but and then in round fifteen the final round Robbie Anderson. That's a great pick around fifteen then curtis. Samuel Parris Campbell Russell Gauge Jalen Rashard T. Higgins Dede Westbrook REX burkhead Jalen Samuels Frank Gore good ageless wonder. We love seeing him drafted so. So. It's up to us. There's only two picks left in the entire draft. This is our last I really like that run of fifteenth round. Wide Receivers, Robbie Anderson. Curtis, Samuel Parris Campbell Russell Gauge Yeah. There's a lot of stabs out there and I'm looking at. Even. Players are still available like there's just a lot of wide receivers that you can potentially take a flyer on like Denzel mims, for instance like he's a starting wide receiver and he's still available. That's ooh. The four one forty guy ran band. Randall Cobb yeah. Twitter's own four one forty Randall, Cobb. What's the story behind that I was? was on twitter. Someone made a comment that Randall Cobb will be the wide receiver one this year, because he ran a four one forty in college. That's where I stopped reading the tweet, because that is just some BS. You made it further than I would have in that tweet I had to see her going, but yeah four one forty really really threw me. Yeah, I think we're looking at either like a Lynn Bowden junior here. The like utility player for a Las Vegas Hunter Renfro James Washington taken Flyer on somebody like that I found it here. It is fits magic. I'm taking campaign manager. Yeah? I'm taking cam over fits magic to what you guys want to go here. I don't know Geo. Bernard, even I think we go i. mean having mixed if something happens to mix and Bernard's GonNa, get touch kind of a mini handcuff cather so many rookies still available to. It's crazy all right well. We got a minute and a half left here on the clock. Let's. Let's take a stab at one of the wide receivers like let's look at either like a Denzel mims or tional Edwards could be a good pickier, too. Yeah, my vote Stenzel mims same. I'm fine with it. Let's do it. Lock them up all right. Denzel MEMS TO WRAP UP OUR DRAFT ITO SMITH MR relevant himself. I'm talking in the draft and how life because he? He is so irrelevant all right. That's GONNA. Wrap it up. Let's look at our team here. Real. Quick all right, so let's take a look here back. Philip rivers running backs Joe Mixing De'andre Swift Marlin. Mac Kerryon Johnson Zach Moss We put a very strong emphasis on wide receiver. So are wide receivers are Julio Jones Dj more Allen Robinson Terry maclaurin Michael. Gala Michael Pittman. Pittman junior and Denzel mims Michael Gallup's on our bench. Yeah, were a word flipping around wide receiver, running back a sap, yeah, are wide receivers are stacked are running. Backs are not and then are tight ends were Johnny, Smith and Blake Darwin perfectly fine with those love or wide receivers loved the tight ends with what we talk with our upside picks. They're like Joe Mixon. But we have a lot of risk at the other running backs. Yeah, I mean what this my biggest takeaway from doing. This mock is. You got to put an emphasis on running back. So you look at our team in I just I'm looking through this other team that went to wide receiver heavy. I'll run through. There's really quick Michael Thomas Chris. Godwin kittle Cooper. Cooper Cup Marquees Brown. Join Jamison crowder. They have very good. Pass catchers right there, but they're running back number one running back is Kareem Hunt number two is Matt Brita and then you're looking at Boston Scout. You need to go running back heavy. You absolutely do looking at some of the other teams to like the the number. Two overall slot took saquon Barkley. Barkley Todd Gurley and love bell with their first three picks in on the fourth and fifth, they were still able to get AJ, Brown, t y Hilton and then continued their running back Ron. With Damien Williams Latavius Murray's Toni Ballard team to did it right with the running back, and then looking even at like the fourth team, they went running backs with their first. First, four picks a zeke Elliott Clyde Edwards Dealer Melvin, Gordon David Montgomery and then they took their first wide receiver in the fifth round, it was Portland Sutton went drew brees in the six Evan Ingram in the seventh, and then Tyler Boyd and the eighth. That's a pretty solid team to Yup and we touched on team. Twelve will mile Sanders Jacobs Connor Carson. Carson to Shawn Watson Shark he then they went deontay. Johnson probably shouldn't have taken this when they did Carson Wentz, so they doubled up on the quarterback position but then they got Henry Rugs Jalen Reagan Sammy Watkins like that like that team to the minus the double quarterback thing but i. don't you like that I do? But I like higby and Shark Deontay. deontay Johnson as here wide receiver to they took your upside and Henry rugs they did, and it took upside and regular. They took the WHO knows Sammy. Watkins he's upside. Pick at this point I mean. He's going thirteenth round as a former first round. Pick like you never know. Yeah, what I'm seeing looking through all of these teams here. Is that the teams? Teams that took wide receivers early and or quarterbacks and tight ends had kind of a tough time putting the best roster together I think like the three best teams that we've just talked about. All took running backs with their first three picks. Would you guys agree with that? Yeah, or they went to running back one wider see release in the first three like. Like that to me. It looks like you have to leave the first two round verse three rounds with a two one split at the minimum with two running backs wide receiver. I think we're we got caught. Was We kept getting towards the end of the round? And it's like all right. What we really like Dj more and James Connor the other guy already. Already two running backs. We can probably go more get connor on the way back. And then he got swiped kind of set the tone for the rest of the draft, honestly wasn't then with him. Taking Connor and Carson like I would have been okay, Carson in the fourth. You'd have been an rb to like that would set. Things completely offer for US IN A. A different direction, yeah, and then I would have been stoked if we landed Jonathan Taylor David Montgomery most haunt any of them in the fifth, but they all went before it got back to us, so this is kind of a rough draft for us to be honest, but this is why you do mock draft Oh. Yeah, we do hundreds of them, yes, you. You do them early and you do them often. You do not do one mock, and what's going to happen the only thing here like scrolling through all these teams Emma big floor guy high floor, and we really have it. They're like those are all the all four of those with being able to start to flex in that wide receiver spot. Those are all volume. Volume. Guys who are going to be super-safe floors for us. Yeah, I agree you know looking back. You know what I think we could have done a little differently in eighth around. We took Michael Gallup one pick before Matt Ryan went when we already had four wide receivers. We could've taken Matt Ryan and had the Julio Connection and then we would have in. In the next round comeback and still landed. CD Lamb because we ended up passing on him because we already had gala. I think that might strengthen the squad a little bit. Yeah I just didn't expect to quarterbacks to every team before we picked a quarterback. Yeah, that threw everything off to and they generally that doesn't happen drafts. either. Literally every single team took two. Two quarterbacks took one. We have waited. We have had Philip rivers with the last second. The last pick in the draft cool a lot of good takeaways from here. We'll continue to sprinkle in mock draft says we go the next one we do might be where all three of US draft teams again. Just we can go in depth on our own strategies again. Again on Tyler, you have some exciting news for us. 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06/10: Debating the Top 4 RBs and More! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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06/10: Debating the Top 4 RBs and More! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from CBS sports. Email us at fantasy football CBS I dot com. If you still draft quarterbacks in round one we're here to hell. Year, slow combination of Adam, Jamie. And he took it up where we left off last week after a successful week of ninety top one hundred fifty players our rank get to numbers, four three two and one those elite running back and PR McCaffrey, chimeras, Zeke and Barclay pros and cons for each guy a little bit of analysis. And then later on in the show, our Ben Gretch will join us to dissect the top one fifty and say what he would have done a little bit differently. I'm outta mazer. Good afternoon to Jamie and, and Dave. Hey, my name is Dave. Thank you. Would you say that this is the final four of the rankings? I would say that. Donna. I'm not speaking to be. I said, I was going to kill j b the baseball podcasts that I still apologies one here. And then one on the baseball show. Okay. I apologize. But I didn't I said, if Jamie messed up, but he didn't mess up. I thought he forgot to put in a claim for a player. It turns out he didn't I said, if he messed up. But you're in the clear. So today we have also. Live by default, drag me into your mess of screwing up how the process usually works in that league on Monday. I do anything of the sort, but it is a question of should waivers reset every week what he goes think. No, it's more of a baseball question than football. I think all. Yes baseball. Why not? Why not in football? Well, if you if you start with that terrible team, and you don't use your way. Reclaim I guess, should be why shouldn't you be allowed to sit and sit and sit until the player you really till that window Smallwood comes off? The waiver wire gotta have him. Yeah. I mean that's why fab is the best, I guess, but it gets a little frustrating and those fantasy football leagues where waivers reset every week. And what I mean by that is worse record has number one waiver waiver wire priority on Tuesday morning. And then, like, you know throughout the week if that if that worst record makes a claim and somebody else doesn't okay we'll now on Thursday or Friday, whenever that somebody who didn't jump ahead and has priority. But as soon as the next week rolls around the standings, are updated and the waiver wire priorities updated. And again worse record has best priority. It gets a little frustrating. If you have a good team, you can pretty much never get that running back or whoever everybody. The only thing that works is that football season is so short that if you stink you have a chance to rebound. Yeah. Baseball. It's such a long season that almost like Dave's point you know, if you wanna sit in. Wait for a little bit more of an option to in baseball. You do not get the one player impacts as nearly as as frequently as you do for football. It's sure number one, can you can prospects? You can't like like Jordan Alvarez guy got called up today. But I think football, the waiver having the number one way propriety and football means a lot more than baseball. Right. Yes. Depends on the time of year. I, I think no matter what, why, why would it depend because if it's later on in the season, I'll just give you an example, just from my experience in our ale only league when that trade deadline comes around and a big time player moves from the NL to the AL. You wanna be first on that waiver list to get that player. Now there could be a player like that off the waiver wire every week in the NFL. We sit in this podcast do every week and we talk about who's the number one guy to go at off of waivers. Yeah how many times during the season was there a slam dunk. Gotta get him number one guy. A handful yet several not it's usually went running back. It's injured. Yeah. Yeah. But the AL only and only things a little bit different. Okay. Anyway, back to football. I like that was fun discussion. Let's the bait atop for I still hate you. I can go one through four now. Saquon Zeke Kamera. Are you sure you know, the order 'em McCaffrey that I don't mean the players I mean had account minute ago? I don't know that. I got that right, right. Yeah. Okay. Saquon. No, you know what? I changed my mind. Let's go four to one. Let's do the case four in the case against Christian McCaffrey. Dave make the case four McCaffrey. He's number four, and our consensus, PR agencies. Well, he was outstanding last year, he had three hundred and twenty six touches one hundred seven of them were receptions. He had almost two thousand total yards thirteen touchdowns, third of his stole touches obviously, we're receptions, twenty three point three fantasy points per game in PR sixteen point six nine he was he was really, really good. And I think he's just gonna continue to get better. He's put on muscle this offseason if you've seen photos of him, he looks like the incredible hulk just a little bit shorter. And I think he's. There to also help take some pressure off of Cam Newton. Yeah. And McCaffrey was the number one running back in this format last year, he was third in non PR. He was first than PR now he played seventeen games but really barely played in week seventeen. He had five touches and forty total yards Jamie, the case against Christian McCaffrey. And by the way, I don't think that Jamie's Downer anybody making the case against we're not down on these guys, but just bring it up. Go ahead. Cannonballs outta shoulder. Well, the got will Greer. That there's gotta be more than that against Christian McCaffrey. Cannonballs outta shoulder. So let's say that I'll give a real season starts McCaffrey. Hurts his hamstring. I can give a real one Christian McCaffrey twist his ankle. Come on. Do you want to give the offense of line is not exactly? Great. And the passing game is missing a significant impact receiver not that they had a year ago. But still something that you can just say they're gonna focus on stopping the run. But I mean McCaffrey again like you said, we're nitpicking here. So there's not a lot to nitpick with this. It's there's one thing that would be nitpicking. I mean he caught a hundred seven passes. That's a ton. He had the most targets the most catches among running backs the tenth most carries. Did they add any one because he had almost all of the carries for Carolina did do they have anyone that's going to take some of the workload off? Let's start with that. No. It's actually not true. Because at the beginning of the year they use J Anderson. C J Anderson, I had a little had twenty four carries. It was enough. I feel like it was more than that. But confirm they, they used him and those short yardage opportunities. Weren't quite there. I don't believe early on. He had nine touchdowns from inside of ten yards McCaffrey, obviously not Anderson nine touchdowns. Inside of ten yards four from the goal line. And he only averaged thirteen point seven carries per game. And I think the addition of muscle was meant to boost that number a little bit more. Give him a little bit more work off a handoffs and you know. Yeah. No other area running back. Twenty four carries of them McCaffrey. Now Cam Newton obviously carried quite a bit. But and this is a good. This is also a way to get a little bit less off of Newton's plate by letting McCaffrey run between the tackles and take pitches, and the like okay. The other thing is the touchdowns. He did get, you know, a decent amount of goal line work Christian McCaffrey, end targets, by the way, he doesn't just carry the ball inside the ten inside the five gets carries there as well. He led the team in red zone targets. He was second on the team targets inside the ten yard line. But Cam Cam head, I think four rushing touchdowns last year. That's a little bit low. He's usually, honestly. Is usually like five but McCaffrey had four one yard touchdown runs overall, he had six rushing touchdowns from inside the five. Maybe Cam Newton gets more of those, we are nipping. Let's go to number three. Then we'll kind of debate everybody. But number three is Alvin Kamara. Jamie make the case four Alvin Kamara who was fourth in both formats, PR PR last year. Latavius Murray's stinks and he's not close to what Mark Ingram was, and you get the production, Gotham Camaro on the first four games of the season, last year, we had at least thirty three or more PR points through the four games. And he gets more work. You know so he's. He's in, in a great spot in an offense. That's gonna feature him to the level that they do. I mean I don't think he's ever going to be twenty five touch guy consistently, but he has the chance to be eighteen to twenty on a week to week basis. And I you know, you move out max under being there, I still think this is a good offensive line with a great quarterback integrate system. So there's a lot to love about Alabama and Dave the case against Kamera. I'll first of all it's tough for me to make this Casey's my number one running back in PR. I would take him in number one overall now in saying that he had eighteen touchdowns last year has Keith Cummings regression argument that number is sure to come down. Of course, we were talking about Kamera regressing at this time last year after his big rookie season when he had thirteen touchdowns. And he made us look foolish. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were. Not very hard. What else do I'm going to say? Oh, that's fine. He, he could get hurt because he's not as big as saquon Barkley or Zeki Elliott or latavius, Murray's going to do exactly, what marking what it is. It's Jared cook does the addition of Jared cook, maybe the emergence of some young wide receivers. Does the does that take away from the catches? Kamara had eighty one catches last year. In fact, two straight years with eighty one catches whereas as I said, McCaffrey, a hundred seven so that's a pretty big difference in PR does does Camaro caffeine passes. It is interesting, though, like how touchdown dependent he was for a guy that, you know, you would think the receiving numbers kinda boost a little bit more than they do. And again, eighteen touchdowns is a lot to replicate. I think if you give him the thirteen from a year ago, that's kind of where he'll be. But just going at his game log from like week ten on. It was sixteen touches four. Fourteen touches fifteen touches nineteen touches that includes eight catch game seventeen touches with the five catch game twenty one touches with seven cats game and then eleven touches in week seventeen weeks. Excuse me in seventeen can he be sustainable on basely sixteen touches per game? If that's kind of where he's going to average there. That could be a little bit. I think he'll be north of that. Not very much north of that. But still, it's. I don't think latavius Murray is Mark Ingram. Twenty seventeen. I think he's better than Mark Ingram. Twenty eighteen but it's also throwing those four games into play where Ingram play in those four games in it was in those four games. For terms of touches. It was seventeen nineteen thirty one twenty four and then Ingram goes back in the first game with Ingram back. It's nine touches for command. And one other thing about that Alvin Kamara had the fourth most carries inside the five yard line. But he only had thirty four thirty five percent of his team's carries inside the five yard line because he had thirteen such carries and Mark Ingram himself had twelve the leader was Todd Gurley. With eighteen carries inside the five Kamara and Ingram combined for twenty five so if Murray doesn't have quite the same role as Ingram and they increase chimeras workload near the goal line. He might. Scoring team touchdowns total again, you know, you never know Arbizu disease Elliott, number two overall Jamie, the case, four Ezekiel Elliott. I mean he's just been so consistent. Such a beast in an offense. That's going to still be run dominant. Hopefully the return. I hope the return of Travis Frederick, first off, but if he does get Frederick back that just adds another piece that offense wine, which should be fantastic. What he did in the passing game last year. Please carry over to this year. We had seventy plus catches. If he does that, again, he could easily be I struggle between Barclay, and Zeke zeke's number one for me, a non PR. I struggle with him, not being number one in PR, just because of what potential downfall Barclay may have. But I think Barclay's will in the passing game kind of gives him a little bit of an edge and that's against saying that with Elliott coming off a seventy plus cash game, but I think they're easily won in one, a not that Camerin and McAfee are bad players. And if you wanna take one of the first of all I get it, but I just think what Barclay end. Zeke should be able to do what they rebel to do a year ago. But Elliott particular offense around him, I think is a special douse. Did you mention annum about argue against Ezekiel Elliott for some reason? But did you mention the touchdowns that he had last year and how it seems weird? Yeah. Ridiculous. Or to expect him the headaches it single digit. Forget about six single digit rushing touchdowns. Yeah. Crazy and got expect more. No explanation for it. I mean it's not like Dak Prescott had more touchdowns than it usually does rushing. He at six which is what he always gets. So Zeke Elliot had nine total touchdowns only six on the ground just weird. If in fact he scored at rushing touchdown in both of his postseason games. What's the case against Zeke? The only thing that I can say against you can he's my number one in non PR. Is that throughout his NFL career three years? He has nine hundred thirty six career carries. I haven't bothered to add up his catches yet. But if you give me a minute, I can do it one. Thirty five seven okay? I'm going to need another hour to figure that out. But he's, he's got well over a thousand touches over the course of his career, HUD snack great. You'd like him to have a little bit less work on him. Given given the circumstances. But at least he's used to it. I think that if I think there's a question about the catches as Jamie was mentioning because he had twenty six catches. How many games, did he play into that in seventeen ten twenty six catches and ten games in two thousand seventeen jumped up to seventy seven last year? So we are speaking about PR today. And to me, that's you know, if we're making the case against as Jamie just said, Barkley Pierce, to have more roll the passing game on the one thing like you know, people make think is catches decrease when Amari Cooper joined the team. And the answer is no actually went up will is catches decrease with this might make you laugh Randall Cobb and Jason Witten. I mean it might you know again, that's the first year without winning, you know, so the security blanket for duct Prescott was gone now. He's back. All right. So let's go to saquon Barkley, number one in our PR rankings, and he in his last eight games of the season was on pace for just sixty six catches overall in the season ninety. One catches. He was on pace in his first eight games for one hundred and sixteen catches. And then he started running the ball, more second half of the year and catching the ball less, but I still, I mean we expect eighty catches from Barclay. Yes. Okay. The Kate, and, and he's told us last week, his projections. He hasn't as the reception leader for the giants. What's the case for saquon Barkley number one overall, Dave? While we're talking about the running back that finish number one in p p r last year, number two in non and half p PR super consistent. Lots of big point totals. And he is the New York Giants offense until further. Notice offensive line has gotten better the receiving game has not necessarily gotten better of anything. It's gotten worse. So they're focused will be very much on having saquon shoulder, the load, he's young, he's strong and he's he's, he's going to get a lot of touchdown opportunities. It's going to get a lot of opportunities in General Jamie, the case against saquon Barkley. Todd Gurley sophomore season Leonard fournette sophomore season is ego Elliott sophomore season. You know, they've all struggled the last three prominent runningback taken in the top five of the draft NFL draft, their second years have been bad. He's you're but you're gonna clues economic. Well, it's still it's a part of it. There's been a downturn in production. You know, however it happened. There's been a downturn production agree with you. Obviously, it's circumstantial with him. But still it, it's. Taking although Beckham off the field. Does that make this offense? That much more predictable. The hope would be no, you know that the combination of Tate Ingram and shepherd make up the difference. And when I say that it's shepherd in Ingram's numbers. Get elevated along with Tate that it replaces the threat of Beckham. So there's not a threat of Beckham on the field. But if collectively the group is better look, the thing that you like about Barclay, or you should is manning doesn't like to throw interceptions, and he doesn't like sticks acts. So he likes to get the ball his hands quick possible and say throws. And so that's where Shurmur will put Barclay and some good spots. But I think the biggest thing for me is, you know, it started last year was soldier and Hernandez, and getting Zeitler and, and remers you know, those that group collectively should be better. Enzyme, I think is the biggest addition for saquon Barkley. Fantasy value by far. So if that run game is, is better not that it's hard to say do more than five yards per carry. But just at overall eighty catches, I think two thousand yards is within reach again and can't he still be fifteen plus touchdowns. I gotta do little research on something here. If we're just making the case against saquon Barkley Jamie Dave said he finished number one last year and PR. I had him a number two one point he was McCaffrey, but let's say they tied and since cafe barely played them. Seventeen McCaffrey, probably was better. But both of them were on offenses that were just average last year. So I think the argument against Barkley is like giants could be terrible, and it's hard to be a great fantasy running back on a bad offense. You think they'll be worse than where you're right? Do I? Yes. Yes. Kind of because I know that they didn't really struggle that much offensively without Beckham. But it was only four games but taking them off. The field is a big deal. I would probably predict to be somewhere around. They were like seventeenth or something and scoring. I think they'll be okay. They scored more without back. In those four games, they had that one gaming us. The Redskins I think. Got it. You gotta go with the averages I put, but you don't really because we don't really think there are better offense without that. No. But, but statistically, it's not like they lost a lot. They had a great game against the Cowboys in week seventeen. Yeah. I mean the offense line is better. I'm just I'm again it's the case against Barkley. I sure that's why I talked about this before I have trouble taking him over Kamera NPR, because the saints offense is just so much better than the giants offense no matter why best case scenario for the giants. I still think there are much worse off than the saints. And last year again you know if you're just looking at it the saints offense with better Barkley more points per game. He did. Yeah. I know he's amazing. He's, he's probably the most gifted. Okay. It was really close though. He averaged half a point more per game and chimera that I mean again, you're talking nitpicking when you get into these guys at the top. Right. But I still think chimera did well enough where I can where I can justify taking over Barkley. Right. You can I if I any of these guys are you? You can absolutely justify. But it's you know who has the higher ceiling? I think chimeras reach ceiling. I don't know if Barclay has. I agree with that in Barclay is is he the most talented running back in football right now. Sard argue against he's pretty amazing. I mean when you start to just, you know, the you kind of this about the team and the town around him. Imagine if you've had the Cowboys offense of line or the saints offense. Oh, yeah. No, I and I'm category. I'm a little worried not very word. I'm a little worried that we might say that about saquon by week four. Imagine what he'd be able to do if he had Dell, but this is the top off the defend. This was the argument last year. I remember week one. How's it going to play well against Jacksonville team's going to be bad? Yeah. Wedding. As a sixty touch whatever. That's great players. Do he? Yeah. No, it's true. I mean girls at once. So Dave, you would take a number one PR. Right. I would I'm the concern I have is how he will do. Without del Beckham there because there is a noticeable point per game. Drop-off in PR was like five points per game. And in non it was three points per game. Also kinda back he's never had that many games, you know. So guys take there's a rookie wall for is. Oh, sure. And the P R aspect was part of that was just, like I said, wasn't cashing the ball as much? They were giving him more carries. They also had thirty targets though in his last four you will not get somebody staling stealing goal line carries from Barclay, you will get that occasionally stealing goal line carries from chimera. You will get it stealing goal line carries from McCaffrey. That's Cam Newton. You won't get him. You will be allowed to do that. He'll do it occasionally when those they may tell. No. Because the shelter I bet he does it a couple times at home during the year, and you will not get that from Zeke. All right. So. Who's number one non PR? Zik. Final thoughts on this group. Try and get a pick in the top four under day. This does this McCain for these guys are McCaffrey scary. Oh at all. No. None of these guys should scare you. He doesn't scare me and PR. He's going to catch so many passes in non PR McCaffrey, I feel like I don't know that I would take him for in non PR. Who would you look at it and said Melvin Gordon? I rea the one guy that of all the elite players, the one guy that I feel like I need to really analyze dig into the stats checkout the game I was a little bit more James Connor. I think I think Gordon Connor may be a head of McCaffrey. Bikaner scares me little bit to maybe go receiver there just to be safe. I don't know. I don't know what it is about McCaffrey. I guess I'm not necessarily sure that he is that five yards per carry on a ton of Carey's in between the tackles rusher. Not sure. But it's he's a different type of running back and you have to understand that when you draft them the he will not get you to three hundred carries or even two hundred and fifty care. How many games he's not traditional right? How many pre teen yet van points to that's it? That's that's really forget about what I just said about the, you know, that's it right, there does he get patching four or five balls Angoor. He has the score and receiving touchdowns or hard to predict. So we, he is a top four pick free from your sixty four and scores nine. I mean elaborate out he'll still get to Augusta. I think I think getting any of these guys fourth overall is a win for your fantasy squad. It's a it's the perfect spot to be an undrafted. I think matter what though he's clearly. You're gonna find hard time many making argument. I can't do it in PR. I would take him over Zeke and PBR because I think the sketches are gonna go down, Jamie think McCaffrey's clearly for in PR also. If you could tell me that Melvin Gordon was going to play the same amount of games McCaffrey. I would definitely take Gordon over McCaffrey in non PR. I would take McCaffrey and PR and in half blow. So right now on fantical buck later, non PR. It's Elliot Barclay. Chimera McCaffrey, and in PR. Arkley McCaffrey, Elliott Commere. Wow. Compare forth. That's I want that fourth pick four. That's what I want for VR is outstanding. It really is. All right. We'll take a quick break here on fantasy football today. When we come back, we got some news and notes, including tyreek hill update, and then we'll get Ben Gretch on to talk about his take on our top one fifty. Hey, y'all chip Patterson from the cover three podcast here on CBS sports with the number one college football podcast around. You have to download it. We got five star content. All you five star subscribers. And boy, we've got a lot coming up this off season. 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David heath on that he could be looking at a six game suspension. We're just kind of using those equal, Elliott suspension as a guide. There's not really any indication of if he will be suspended at all, if he will get less than are more than six games. No could be games. But I think if you look at our rankings, he somewhere in the low twenties to early thirties, collectively in our top two hundred on both formats. So that would put him in the round five to seven range knows around sex on average. You know, for those of you who have done best ball drafts, you've, you've gotten some of a steel, it makes homes better. It makes his offense better. You know, the guys get ruined by this, and we spent a lot of time talking about Sammy Watkins Mitchell Hartman to lesser extent, the DaMarcus goal Robinson. But it's again it's still known. We're gonna do our our first draft that. We're actually going to play out as a site on Wednesday for our second edition of our magazine. It'll be interesting to see where Tyree cogos there when there's a little bit more at stake, I guess. But I man, yeah, right. Playing that out craft. So I think, you know again, if you've done any best ball drafts, you know made any moves in your dynasty leagues. You know, the, the situation that we were dealing with initially could be swayed your. Could be swayed ontai Rico, you know whatever happens in terms of the legal proceedings with him. You know, that's another conversation but in terms of what he brings to the football field. You know what he's capable doing? You was amazing last year, and he changes his softens I, I actually think this is a fair question you guys by not. But let's say hypothetically, he suspended six games the first six games of the season. Who are you drafting first Sammy Watkins or tyreek hill? I'm still drafting Sammy Watkins for I know. I'll take tyreek. And what round are we talking here? I've got him as a six round pick right now. And I move them up because and I I'm that guy that doesn't wanna take suspended players. I've always been that guy because I don't wanna waste that spot. But I think it would be worth it for tyreek hill. He's gonna participate slang outta scenario. Don't this is gonna be. It is gonna participate in training camp and the preseason then he's going to go away for a month and a half comes back week. Seven I think it's at Denver and win. Wouldn't she started if you had them, of course, and you're going to be able to draft him, right? Amongst the range of, number two to number three receivers on draft day and you can find there are so many receivers that we talked about over the case over the course rather of the top one fifty that we see potential upside in we'd love to get them in round eight plus you can have one of those guys fill in for the first six weeks of the season tyreek hill is a guy that makes a huge. On your fantasy team. He's the league winner. So finding him. I, I don't know if I can wait till round six actually, I might have to move them up and take them in around five, okay? So round five that's a twelve team league. We're talking about two that's forty ninth or later. And he was the number one wide receiver non PR number three in PR, and we'll see where Patrick Mahomes goes, we'll see where Watkins goes. And if Ren gets drafted at this point Philadelphia signed Carson Wentz to a four year one hundred twenty eight million dollar extension just needs to stay healthy but should be without the knee brace this year. Hopefully a little bit more mobile in a little bit better a lot better. He played well last year. Cam Newton though he's gonna throw in all the quarterback drills at Carolina camp this week. That's great. The jets higher. Joe Douglas to be their GM. According to Adam Schefter Douglas kind of kept turn it down. And the jets just wanted more and more and more, and he finally said, yes, and he's actually done. This is interesting. He is even though it comes from the eagles, not an analytic. Analytics, I wouldn't I don't know if he's not an analytics guy, but he's at more traditional scout. So we'll see how that works out for the jets Houston fire their GM, Brian gain. Oh, hey guys. Devante Parker is having a great camp. How exciting for the for the fifteenth time. I don't know. I don't know. Who's buying it at this point? This is like. The, the boy who cried wolf Sony, Michelle. We talked about this last week. He missed some time at camp was personal reasons. Do we know? We know but ESPN there, patriots, micro seems to think it's not a big deal. If the a big deal come training camp if he's missing time. Aaron Rodgers said two things about as wide receivers that he needs to get Davante Adams, more targets, and that Marquez Valdez scanning has had a fantastic spring. We obviously, like drano Alison a lot more than Marcus Valda scanning scheduling right now, could it be the opposite? Yeah, I, I mean look, he got an opportunity to take advantage of Alison being gone. I think we'll end up happening though is envious will end up spending a lot more time on the outside whereas Adams in Allison will mix and match as the slot receivers. So that will help I think Alison a little bit more than than this, Gatling and Philp Lindsay is expensive. He's a great late round pick filled. Lindsay's expected we ready for training camp as he recovers from wrist surgery, we have a lot of other podcasts that you should be listening to the pick six podcast is great. Just heard we'll Brinson. Tell a great story about George Clinton and p funk at his high school that was with him. And Jason lockenfora. They talk a lot of football, I promise, but it's the offseason anyway. Pick great state of combats. Great wrestling MMA boxing podcast. We've got the first cut, which is three times a week golf podcast. It's really good. Go to CBS sports dot com slash podcast for all of our shows and ways to subscribe, make sure you're watching CBS sports HQ. I'm hosting now a live show on Sundays for fantasy based. Ball. Call fantasy baseball today. Same name is the podcast from three to six PM eastern, but there are so many reasons to watch HQ Stanley Cup. We got the NBA finals, we had big golf coming up. You got football, always, it's free. It's twenty four seventh streaming. Download the CBS sports app and download the CBS app or go to CBS dot com slash poker, and watch the World Series of poker bracelet events that you can't see anywhere else on the CBS app or on CBS dot com slash poker bringing in Ben Gretch now Ben's on our fantasy staff. You can follow his Twitter handles amazing at yards progress. It's probably my favorite Twitter handle out there. We're gonna bring him in now to give his thoughts on the top one fifty. What's up Ben Gretch? How you doing, man? Not too bad. Things are youngest. Oh, always a pleasure. Then does great work on our fantasy staff. And let's get some of his take. So if you looked at that top one fifty and there was one player that you were either a lot higher on or a lot, lower on, then Dave, Jamie, and heath who that one player B and higher or lower. I a kind of pens position in area. I'll say Zico Elliott right off the top of my head because I think he's a tear down from the top three running backs and my concern with him is they wouldn't drop the Tony Pollard, who at Memphis over his career had over one hundred catches. He only had something like a hundred and thirty rush attempts. So I don't think he's going to come right in take zeke's work. But I do think it's notable that they, they went a little higher than probably projected on this player who profiles kind of like a Lance Dunbar type dolls has had before more pass catching back. Zeke had a huge bike in receptions last year. Over his first two seasons. I think about twenty more than his first two seasons combined, and in particular his receptions, almost cut in half after the team acquired Amari Cooper, he really racked up perceptions in the first half year when that no one else to throw to. They've added a lot more firepower in the passing game. Obviously, Mark Cooper will be back that brought a rental Kaban and Jason Witten. And if this. This draft pick of Tony Pollard is indication that, you know, maybe they wanna spell Zeke a little bit more, or if they do want to do that it looks like it will probably be in the passing game. So if those if his receptions, don't maintain from last year, I think he's going to have a really hard time being as productive as saquon and Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, I don't the only thing I'm sorry. Correct. I don't think his receptions did drop with Mari Cooper, is that what you said. Yeah. They, they definitely did. All right. Let's double check out 'cause I don't think they did get his game log right now. But, but the, you know, bringing empowered is a good point. Guys. What do you think about that? I don't think polish gonna take so much away that it's going to ruin zeke's reception totals. But it's like we said earlier, it's all the additions that they made we didn't bring Pollard's name. But he could be included in this list could take by the time the season ends twenty five catches. I don't think that that's out line. So between him Cobb Whitten, these are all short area targets that the Cowboys are gonna use creatively. But I don't expect I, I don't think Zeke falls all the way back to like thirty catches where he was prior to twenty eighteen then you still have measure r before. Right. You just have. Yeah, but I think you're looking to get along the right to I might have been looking at the splits backwards. His his receptions, w yet fifty one with Cooper. Okay. So his receptions doubled with Cooper. I must have been looking at the splits thing backward and just kind of seeming that they had gone down, but not reading carefully. Hi, I do that all the time to worry about it part of that. Is he had a twelve cats game against Philadelphia? I don't know how you're gonna have thirteen targets and twelve catches. Also play week seventeen against giant so take that into account as well. Okay. So I think the power angle is pretty interesting there with, with Zeke, Elliot. I know you're also very high. In Kyle Murray. You've collar Murray as your QB seven and you've met Ryan QB twelve but let's talk about collar Murray. That's, that's pretty QB seven. I like it. That's bold before you answer Ben you going on six points. Passing touchdowns or four four four on this one, and so definitely, the, the rushing becomes a big element. You know, I'm looking through through my projections where they came out. He comes out really, really high because of his rushing value. But so do a lot of the other Russian quarterbacks when you're looking at four point passing touchdown scoring now. Where would he be six points passing touchdown because that's usually what we go by on CBS. Yeah. I would probably knock him down a little bit. But I am really high on him on the whole offense. I mean, I think two things number one, they're gonna be faster pace. They're going to run a lot more place. And so it doesn't even necessarily mean that they have to be very, very good. We just gonna run a lot more plays and they're going to throw a lot more. And then the second thing is they were so inefficient last year. They were dead last in yards per play that if Kingsbury system does provide any kind of volume efficiency boost is well, I mean, I just think there's a lot of opportunity for this whole Zona offense to, to be a lot better than last year. Not just a little bit better. But a huge a huge boost for fantasy. I mean I don't think they're gonna be necessarily good. I kind of think of it like Tampa Bay last year who was a bad team that was behind throwing a ton and put up a lot of fantasy numbers for a lot of guys across the offense. Yeah, I'm with you. I haven't ranked as high. But I think again, you look at what the upside could be. It's a position that if you swing and miss, you can find somebody to easily replace him unless you're in a league that everybody drafts quarterback sense, a little bit harder. But as we have come to find out in fifteen round drafts is not easy to carry two quarterbacks when you're not gonna play guy in there should be somebody, billable to you at some point that can replace him. Mary does think right. And I and I would say, yeah, I'm not going. Go reaching for him. He's that's where he comes into my ranks. But you know the general late round quarterback, you know philosophy should still outweigh this. I mean, I think there's plenty of even at Ryan like I have done a QB twelve part of that, just because I like some of the other quarterbacks a little better. I don't have you know, tough tough read because his touchdown ready to swallow around so much last few years to out of the last three years he's had really high touchdown rates the middle season two thousand seventeen healing through twenty so you don't really know where he's gonna go. There's not a lot of consistency there. I do have him coming down a little bit in terms of touchdown rate, and not being quite as effective and throwing less overall because their defense was so banged up last year that led to a lot more passing attempts. So I probably won't be getting him a lot. But I still think he's like, basically in Saint tears. Kyla merck. Let me ask you about some running back rankings, then I also want you to give your top three wide receivers is they're pretty interesting. But you have Ronald Jones pretty far ahead of Mark Ingram. That's, that's that is. Chugging Rb twenty nine. Ronald Jones Mark Ingram. Rb thirty six. Yeah. Jones, I mean it's kind of an upside swing for that ranking. And I think that he will lead the bucks backfield in touch by the end of the season. I think the fact that they didn't go out and get any real running back help this off. Season is a pretty good indication that they like Jones because I don't think you would do that. If Peyton Barbara's really back. He wasn't good paint. Barbara wasn't good last year. Jones barely played. He barely touched the ball. So I don't think that was some vote of confidence in Patan Barbara because I don't think there's any way that it could have been interpreted as that. I think it was vote of confidence that they still think Ron Jones who was the youngest running back in the two thousand eighteen running back class. It was the second round pick. It's still going to be there guy long-term that he was just a little bit banged up his hamstring injury lingered all throughout the year last year. And they still think that he's going to be there guy going forward. So I think he leaves their team running back twenty nine if you think that running back twenty nine it's still really low raking in terms of the lead running back for a team. It's, it's basically, you know, at the at the back end of the thirty. Teams as the, the worst one of the worst running back ones. But I do think he's gonna be there Lee back. So that's where he falls in. I also think Ingram's gonna be Baltimore's lead back, but I think that's gonna be a lot more split. And I don't love his pass catching upside running quarterbacks tend to tend to not throw to two running backs as much we know Jackson when he drops back if he doesn't get his first or second res probably gonna scramble, I, I think Ingram's receptions are gonna completely fall off going from probably the greatest passer. Two running backs in NFL history and drew Brees over to Lamar Jackson, who I just don't think we'll throw to the running backs at ton. Plus, you have Justin hill there. Plus, he still have kinda thick and they're I think they'll rotate the backs. And I just didn't I didn't give in garment huge work-share. I think there's going to be enough rotation there, and that Mark Jackson doesn't really work well for what, what Ingram needs to, to maintain in terms of the catches that he had a New Orleans and the and the Russia and the, the Golan work as well as just probably not gonna be there as much in Baltimore. So I'm just a lot lower on him. Heath. Just threw something at our podcast DO when you said the Buxton NAT anybody. Sniff against percentage. What but I says because he likes Boucher but seriously like Ronald Jones. I mean I just don't know that pain barber, even if he's going to be in a much better offense of system and gets us opportunity. I don't know that he can really be that good. I like what Ben is saying about Ronald Jones, I think he has major major steel potential because you don't have to. I mean, his ADP could not be RB twenty nine right? I mean he's got to be going later than that. It's not going to be that far off, though. I think the reports continue to be glowing. You know, I think collectively, we have barber in the in the high thirties, thirty five or above, so it's not like Jones, you just swap them out. Like I struggled keeping Barbara ahead of myself, you know, just because I do think that there's a little bit of a safety factor with Barbara, but Jones, a ceiling is so much higher. I don't think I want to draft any bucks running back. Why? Because this is a team that is going to play catchup most weeks defenses atrocious tomatoes there. Tomatoes, which is what he at the studio because we were talking about his boy, VA. It's a fair point though about the bucks backs as a as a team unit. They were not over the last couple years, because of how much they throw because of how downfield they've been throwing they have not been very productive. But obviously Bruce Arians might change things a little bit. That's that's kinda my, my hope for the side for one hundred percent. If he's got a guy that he believes in sure. Yeah. I don't. I we, we have absolutely no idea just how much they believe in any of these steps. But if they're if they are playing for behind you, you want the guy who can catch passes. I don't know who that would be. I don't know if Ronald Jones and Johnny anymore, right? I said it before, like their best running back might not be on the roster right now. All right. Work presented. Yeah. I mean those are all true things I again, I would just say with Ron Jones, we don't know. And I don't necessarily thing that's a bad thing. I think we, we talk about the uncertainty. And we think about that. I think we still should default to the fact that they use a second round pick on the guy. And they didn't really add much this off season. Which, again, I know he doesn't really necessarily agree with. But in my opinion, I still think that Roy Jones, probably gonna be the pass catcher, because I just don't I think we have enough of sample on paint barber to know that he can't do that. So I think we're on Jones gonna get every opportunity to succeed. I think the fat thirty talking them up is very clear evidence that they want him to be that guy. Right. Let's keep up with the polarizing running backs, Ben Derrick Henry, where I'm out where do you come out on him? So he's a great example of that stuff that I look at running backs Olympic of a broader thing. I mean, I think when you're looking for edges in AP, I think that the whole industry has a really good job of analysing where the touches might go, and who who's projected for surmount touches the one kind of edged or leverage point that I really liked to target is to basically devalue empty carries carries between the twenties, the two things that are so much more valuable, especially in PR leagues too. Fancy production are receptions and red zone, work and. Henry could definitely get a high percentage of his team's red zone work. But a big way that I look at the red zone work as well as not just a percentage. But obviously the offense I don't think the titans are very good team. You can look at, like David Johnson last year. He got a ton of really high percentage a ton of, of the cardinals red zone work, but there just wasn't enough touchdowns there. Right. So there's some teams that are going to score way more touchdowns. And there's an you go and look at the receptions. I mean you're adding a catch every single you're adding a point per catch every single time they catch your past you also getting more yards per play in the passing game. Derrick Henry is a great example of a guy who we can project from probably more than twenty touches per game. But a lot of those are going to be what I would consider kind of empty touches they still matter. You're still racking up rushing yardage. But they're going to be a lot of Russia's that are not going to be in, in high scoring positions in places where touchdowns or more likely now he is a guy that can break off some long touchdown runs, and I don't think he's going to be a huge pass catching guy. I mean, I still think Dion Lewis is going to be involved and that's where he'll be involved, mostly in my opinion. So for me Derrick Henry guy you getting plenty. Touches, but they're not the ones that rack up the most fantasy production. And because the market tends to actually look at total touches and analyze it. Well, he ends up a little bit higher ranked than where I'm willing to take him because I don't think it's a bad thing that he's gonna be twenty touch guy. But I will wind up fading, those touches that are less valuable for a guy who might have a much higher rate of receptions and red zone work. Like that's like Alvin kamera's workload, you know, he doesn't get a tonic areas between the twenties. He will get plenty of red zone. Touches he will get plenty of catches. Obviously, those guys aren't ranked in the same area of the draft. But that's kinda like the difference in I think why wind up lower on guys like Derrick Henry. I I'm with you hundred percent on Henry NPR like he's almost like a Henry three Cohen as like total opposite each like Cohen is somebody that I will try to avoid in non PR. But can't wait to get him in PR and Henry's the exact opposite like I don't really want their can reappear just because I think he's he's what's the. Upside. Exactly verners peak, like I mean right at at where you have to get there can read. That's the problem. Like I think you have them like almost fifty two yeah. There's no way I would take him in that range by any stretch. I just think like if you're going to get him, you got a subtle form, but nobody subtle form because they drop them too soon. And what draws me back into Derrick. Henry is the fact that he's getting fifteen to twenty touches per week with that goal on work. And when you're looking for running back starting around four there aren't a lot of those guys that are out there today. If you're any any, I think he's missed one game in three years. And has never been the only time he's truly been overworked has been in the last four games of last year. So there's a lot that I like about him. I'm you almost have to, you know, give up on the catch factor with him and PR and, and hope that he makes up for it with touchdowns and that I don't wanna really hard to, to buy into he is going thirty eighth overall based on his ADP right now. So that puts him at the beginning around for again to refer me me, too. The see by the upside, I think the. Side. Like marshawn Lynch was a guy who never caught passes and always finished pretty high even PR really offenses. He entry. Got more than Henry ahead. Better better red zone projection each season because he played on better offenses. He got all the red zone work and played on better. Offense is my concern for entry is not necessarily that he won't get the goal on carries said, Tennessee might not be a very good offense. Okay. I'm trying to lender Henry's going as the twentieth running back in PR other that he should be reasonable me. I'm too high. Chris Carson last year was something like fifteenth in PR, actually Derrick Henry was right behind him. I tell you where they finished. Okay. Get bed who, who are your top three wide receivers and I will just count and see where Carson and Henry finished with very few catches. But who you're wide receivers Ben, I've Hopkins one like most people do. But I have ju ju number two right now. I just think he can p projects for such a high target volume hundred and sixty six targets last year with Brown there. I don't really have any concern about his ability to handle the number one work. I mean I think he he if you go look at the games. In Tony Brown missed. He's been very productive back in his rookie season Brown left. I think it was week fifteen with a strain calf and like the second quarter so he played juju played weeks. Fifteen sixteen seventeen is kind of the number one and he had three big games. He wasn't as great in week seventeen last year. When Antonio Brown was, I think suspended for contract detrimental to the team, what everybody scored I think he had like a five thirty seven one line on, like ten targets but the volume should be there and I trust the talent. This guy was super productive at a super young age at USC. I mean just he came in to USC I think still seventeen he came into the NFL. He was still twenty and it was productive right away at the NFL a big by a big believer. A big buyer of age adjusted production guys that are really productive at younger ages, and juju came in the league super young was already super productive pretty much every chance. He's gotten to, to be productive with more opportunity, and fewer people blocking him. I mean you can go back to. Martavis Bryant was suspended for a game in judy's rookie season. And I think it was Jews first career start. And it was that Sunday night game against a Troy where he had a ninety five yard touchdown and put you know just had a monster game again with one hundred eight hundred ninety yards. This guy every time he's been thrust into a more feature role has been very productive. So I think the town excuse me, the, the targets are going to be there. And then I think he has all the town the world. And the number three guys auto Beckham. I think the Browns I just really like the Brown situation. I like the Todd Mahnken acquisition. The would just talking about the box how much they threw the ball around the field. And the fact that Cleveland was willing to thrown around the field quite a bit. When kitchens took over last year. I think that kitchens, monk and connection. I think both these guys wanna be really vertical with the ball. And I just I'm pretty smitten on Odell with Baker. You should be. It's going to be a great com- combination between those two the thing that I I've started to go back and look at ju and he's not going to be used the same way that Antonio Brown was right. But just there the ability the catch rate is going to be great. The opportunity is going to be humongous. You already talked about that. And I just like the way that he can make plays after the catch. He can break tackles. You look at his ninety seven yard touchdown from this past season, the one that you referred to and he had to break tackles to get to the end zone there yet. There's a lot to like about you general haven't quite as high as you do makes me makes me wonder where you might have guys like Julio. And devante Adams in my they come in four and five, and I don't like being lower on those guys. But man, I just really love juice target ceiling. And I think Pittsburgh's going to throw a lot more and I think I'm probably going to have less of Julio and Adams, and it's not because of anything I dislike about them, it's just because I want a hot too. Of juju. Smith Schuster this year. I really think he's gonna blow up man. I don't know how I can argue against Davante Adams, you know, I mean just every argument you made for juju. Smith Schuster, also applies to devante atoms. And the, you know, and I mean, that's, that's the end of my sentence. I would say that target ceiling isn't as high for devante Adams, he had a hundred and sixty last year's well, basically, the I think he may have had a couple of fewer than ju ju last year, basically the same range, and that was on a team for green, but it didn't really have a lot more going for them. Obviously, they've drawn journal Alison back the, the second year receivers we should expect to be better in your cue that are near one. And if you look back at Aaron Rodgers career not a lot of young receivers have been very productive. But then they just kind of like had breakout years at Davante Adams, wasn't good as I two seasons had a breakout year near three if a guy like Marcus Valda, scant Ling, or, or ESPN, those guys, step up this year that's going to impact onto Adams targets. Feeling a little bit. And I do think revise gonna wanna run a little bit more this year too. So the one thing I agree with you. I really liked onto Adams, but the concern I have is the target ceiling. I think jus target ceiling literally two hundred targets which is insane. Wow. Throw as much as they did the which realistic either. Yeah. Team that wants to be a little bit more dependent on the run in their defense will be better. You know that was huge problem. With Lhasa defense was so bad. So Ben, let me get your final thoughts here on. Okay. Calvin Ridley wide receiver thirty four. Some guys you have a head of him. DJ more Corey Davis Christian Kirk. I guess if we just look at all of the year two and we'll put Davis and there a year three guys. DJ more Corey Davis Christian Kirk ahead of Calvin. Ridley Dante Pettus. It's a lot of guys, there's five guys, I just mentioned, you're not talking about all of them necessarily, but a general theme. They're looking at these, these young wide receivers who you like who you don't like as much as the rest of the industry as much as Dave Jamie and heath. Yeah. I mean I a general theme for, for some of these guys might be going back to age adjusted production thing in thinking back to LA worked prospects DJ more day was Christian Kirkwall very productive players at young ages in college guys, I really liked his prospects, and I think they're in great situations Davis, not, not as good of a situation. But I do think he's their number one and they threw so little so few pass attempts last year in Tennessee that that kind of has to come up. I just think his inconsistencies were more result of the teams volume inconsistencies in Marcus mariota his injury and how their whole season was kind of wild last year. I'm gonna write about that coming up on the site. So that's not something we need to get into too far. But Ridley my concern. I mean he's still behind Julio Jones. And I still think it will Jones going dominance targets. They're they still involve Muhammad set new, they're still gonna involve Austin Hooper. They have all the pieces back, and he was so officiant with touchdowns last year. I think that's got a regress a little bit. And also, I mean eight point nine yards per target was really impressive last year but. I do think that might have to regress a little. The, the issue with him though is just targets. I haven't projected, right about one hundred targets and as, as a fishing see regressing and for me that just drops him down behind more Davis and are all guys I think can be the best and I have projected to be the best receiver on their respective teams. Ridley he's playing behind hula gels. I mean that's the kind of that simple. And then source Patas concern George Kittle, I think, is their star in my concern with them. Is it San rotate a lot of receivers? I mean, I think we're gonna see four five different guys. Play a lot of weeks in and be productive throughout the year. I don't know if they'll necessarily have a number one wide receiver. I think it's George kettle. What guys think? I'm probably the high guy on both Ridley an Pettus. And I tend to rely on just what these guys do what they're capable of. And and what their offense is our. I, I agree that Atlanta's not gonna throw as much as they did last year. But I think really takes on a bigger role. I really do. I think he gets over a hundred touches this year and not ten touchdowns, but seven or eight with a big boost in yardage. I think he's really over one hundred takes over over one hundred ten targets. So if I said touches my mistake hundred ten touches something bad happened to Leo Jones that. And then Pettus. I think he's the best wide receiver at including Calvin really. And I do agree with Ben at the forty Niners are gonna use a lot of wide receivers. But I think PETA stays on the field more than anybody else. So maybe by default, he's there, number one guy. He can lineup anywhere. He'll get improved targets from Garoppolo versus what he had last year for Mullins needed. Great toward the end of the season when he finally had a good idea. The playbook, he's put on weight. And I think he's going to also see nice uptick in targets and then be a good number three receiver for fantasy with a chance to break into the bottom end of the top twenty four. I mean I I don't disagree. I, I don't like where I'm out on, I think I'm a little bit too low on him. If there is a guy there. I do agree that, that he is the pretty clearly the guy that I would expect to, to be the best receiver in San Fran. I'm just concerned. I like Marquis scoot, when to when I think he's gonna be productive. He was really good at the end of twenty seventeen with Garoppolo. He was a sleeper last year before, Rob Lowe got hurt. So it's just it's kind of tough situation there. It's any pets could be their best receiver in maybe by a lot not necessarily factoring Gidel. He can be their fourth receiver, right? If Goodwin in Samuel uneven Jalen Hurd, you know, I mean, Kendrick born had more receptions in him last year. Pedestals had a hard time staying healthy. So I don't know if I love the fact that actually put on weight. That's a little bit concern for you. I think he needed to do it because he's, he's lean that was my knock on them coming out was that he was just too lean. So he needs to do something to try and stay on the field a little bit more. All right, then. Thank you very much for joining us, man. It's great stuff. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on all, try to learn how to read splits splits numbers, a little bit better. Because that was definitely that Zeke, definitely add fewer by got on that. That's okay. You know what when I'm looking at a game guy very confident. Is that? All right. Ben grits. Jimmy is a perk. Dave, richard. Thank you guys very much on Adam as we'll talk to you Wednesday reviewing super flex reading your emails fantasy football at CVS dot com and day day. Day.

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2020 FFPC Pros Vs. Joes Macho Man League #6

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2020 FFPC Pros Vs. Joes Macho Man League #6

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Champ Mike Beers from Rove is is drafting eighth a two-time football guys and dynasty champ with the F. FCC anti former pros vs Joes League winner Sky Island is drafting ninth right in front of. Howard. Bender, from fantasy alarm in the ten spot former football guys leave champ. Brian to is eleventh and then Jeff Man's from grew elite is drafting twelfth night we're already through the first round WanNa bring up to speed on what went down per cooler goes McCaffrey Prince Takes Barclay number two. Todd Hopkins is GonNa go with the running back Ezekiel Elliott over Alvin Kamara who Michael Nasdaq takes with the four spot, his real life teammate Michael Thomas goes to James Boras at the five, and then we have a glut of running backs here Dalvand Cook to Darren. Armani Joe Mixon into Saint Pierre, and Ashi followed by Clyde. Edwards Hilar- to Mike Beers from Rove is sky take excuse me takes Derrick Henry and then Nick Chubb wraps up that little running back run Michael. Thomas was the only receiver taken in the first round It's because Travis Kelsey went to Brian to mellow and Jeff Maggert took George Kill couple of tight ends going in the first round tonight I guess Philosophical question here Dave normally when we have these pros vs joes competitions in the past. We, have seen some pros not necessarily familiar with ADP, and the F. FCC and we have seen some jobs that maybe haven't draft ton of teams and we see some pretty wild. I frown outside of one one night this week I been pretty chunky. Does that surprise you at all given what we've seen in the past in this competition? I know I mean I guess it's a little unusual to be usual. So right? Yeah. That's worth. All right. Feels like. His kindle moved up and ADP a little bit in the last month or so because it seems like it all I thought he was more of a mid second round pick but it seems like he's right right near Kelsey most of these drafts. Yeah. He he went up after the deebo. Samuel injury we saw him going. In the in the first round a lot in the F., pc basketball, slim eighty P which is brought to you by fantasy mo Jo Make sure you're checking out fantasy MO- dot Com for all your F- f- pc ADP needs as well as draft boards everything their fantasy Mojo dot com during her money does a great job with that. That's probably why he's GonNa. Crush this. Draft night as well. George kiddle is going to Oh one over the last week there that's over to and traps worth of of knowledge of of a sample size kill has gone as high as the one away as low as the two Oh five. He seemed like he was a mid second round pick until the Samuel News Hit, and then he was sort of like the ones who. Get and I feel like if you like tight ends, you're GONNA make sure that if you're drafting on the back end, you're gonna get either Kelsey or Kelsey slips a little bit tonight to Brian to Manalo normally goes at the one eight. He falls to the one eleven tonight with such an emphasis on the first round runningback Dave and I. think that's how I will be approaching the majority of my dress this. Year I would love to take Michael, Thomas but I just you know with all the receiver value later on and trying to get one of those bell cow freedom running back. SA-. I I just feel like the best way to spend the first round pick unless Michael Thomas Slips or if I'm in the back end in a tight end premium is is one of those top running backs including quiet Edwards hilarious to. Yup I. DO agree with you. That was a good point by the The last night we come the podfather whatever Matt Kelly Yeah McNally bring you up that you know Michael Thomas Associate can't take them there. He made some good points. I thought it was pretty insightful. Yeah it was great. It was I think we started a nice little rivalry between Matt Kelly and Mike Leoni last night between player profiler and Of course, established the run as we got both those has the call. In this one we got the argument and the rebuttal which was tremendous. All right on to the second round here Davante Adams to Jeff Man's at the two one tyreek hill the Brian Melo at the two, zero two as he goes. Back to back, chiefs stay tuned to see what he doesn't the third round here. This could get interesting latest gentleman or maybe not as a look further on the second round. So forget it Deandre Hopkins Howard Bender at the two zero three and then another running back round here this is four straight teams that started off with two running backs Schuyler, Pairs Derrick Henry, and mile, Sanders together here at the two Oh four Kenyan drake is Mike. Beer selection to go along quite upwards Allaire in the first round Joe Mixing and Josh Jacobs is how Saint Pierre and Ashi have their drafts and then have their draft go Austin Ecuador to Darren Armani In the same backfield four fantasy Mojo as Dalvin Cook here Patrick. mahomes ruining the dream for for Brian to mellow in the eleventh about Patrick Mahomes goes to James Boris at the two eight tonight, which is interesting because of all those running backs I went the first round Boris is the only option says the only team he's one of three team, but did not grab a running back in the first two rounds Julio Jones after. That to Michael Nasdaq followed by Aaron Jones. Once again, Julio Jones Aaron Jones back to back I think in the exact same spots to your at the two. Oh. Nine and ten respectively we Mark Andrews at the to eleven tonight followed by Chris Godwin at the twelve to Brian Picolo McCaffrey and Godwin is the way he starts off. So Dave now, just looking at this draft, we have four teams six through ninety sort in the middle That all started off with two straight running backs. So you'd like to think that teams ten eleven and twelve consort sort playoff that a little bit here, and maybe catch them running back value because I'm betting that there's going to be a lot of wide receivers and probably a few tight ends going in the next three or four rounds your team six, thirty, nine sorta changes the back end and the complexion of this draft or those three teams. Yeah could also make the argument that teams like team eight, nine, ten might WanNa direct grab a running back because he's eleven twelve don't have running backs so I was. Like if I for example, I was eight nine or ten, and I was looking at running back and receiver. Go, running back receiver or running back I would take a third back here. You know. I WANNA say screw over teams, Eleven, and twelve. Tonight to have that advantage over them I'm looking here at the ADP for De'andre Hopkins Howard Bender ends up taking him about a half round ahead of where he normally goes in getting his man in Hopkins there at the two three wasn't going to get him in the third round at the three ten. So he got his guy right there as the fourth wide receiver off the board tonight. another trend I've noticed and I don't know if you have any. Feelings on this day of how you. Handle this if you were going to go quarterback early. For the best ball slim ADP Patrick Mahomes and Lamar. Jackson. Now essentially going back to back Lamar Jackson was going about around them homes and I would say for F-, F PC drafters there you know he's not only caught up to them but in pros vs joes drafts, it seems like we've seen mahomes go ahead of Lamar, Jackson in the majority of these drafts so far if half of them, it seems so yeah that it's surprising me a little bit I would still be taking Lamar Jackson over Patrick mahomes where would you fall in on that? If you were going to take a quarterback early would it be mahomes or? Would it be Jackson over to Kinda depend what you did before that in the draft, I'd probably take more Jackson I. I feel pretty comfortable with him with the rushing upside and the high floor I'm good with them. Yeah. I I just the homes just does not represent the the dual threat that that Lamar Jackson is and I don't think that changes this year at all to I. Think Lamar Jackson has another banner year could go back to back with the MVP to As we see how that goes Davante Adams versus tyreek Hill as the number two wide receiver Dave we've seen. He'll go ahead of atoms a couple of times. Most of the time Adams goes ahead of them. Obviously, Adam should get a pretty big target share. I recall maybe the more explosive playmaker definitely in the more explosive offense, you made up your mind going receiver at that one to Turner you're going Adams or tyreek hill in the majority dress I've always been like a big. Huge tyreek Hill Fan so I guess I'm GonNa, I'm sticking with real. I love mean you know I really need to? Get. Adams. A few spots though do you want him in any Dynasty Leagues Curious Now? Okay. I. Don't think I. Do know. I. Want Him in one I own them in one dynasty league. Maybe I can make it happen and that was a good time to buy in on them for sure. All right. So let's move on to the third round here. Brian Picolo with a rainbow start here running back receiver, and now quarterback is Lamar Jackson is the first pick of the third round. Going at the three one todd Gurley right after that to Chris Prints as his second running back he pairs. With saquon Barkley his pick at one zero, two Todd Hopkins now has a receiver. His name is Mike Evans and he goes up to three zero three Zach Ertz. The fourth tight end off the board tonight following in line with ADP here Zach, Ertz is the three or four selection followed by Leonard Fournette I running back drafted by James. Boris. He Goes Michael Thomas Patrick Mahomes and now, Leonard Foreign, that Dj more I receiver drafted by Armani, the twenty. Nineteen F- F- PC high stakes, fantasy football, our hype guy getting hyped up again this year as more goes at the three Oh six tonight one of two teams the start off with three straight running backs tonight. The first is Saint Pierre and Steve Ashi Joe. Mixon Josh. Jacobson. The first round now Chris Carson here in the Third Mike. Beers goes Kenny Golladay after he takes Chen Kenyan drake in the first few rounds gala days as number one receiver. You Remember Beers won this competition three years ago. Schuyler guy who won His own pros vs Joes. League in twenty eighteen he starts off with three straight running backs. Mile Sanders and now Jonathan Taylor here in the third round James Connor after that to Howard Bender and then connors real life teen made you Smith Schuster to Brian Mellow and Ode L. Beckham. The final pick of the third round to Jeff Man's from grew elite there, and we are three rounds in. We have four tight ends off the board. We have two quarterbacks off the board one, thousand, four, hundred. Twelve receivers and then the rest are running backs. That's what we're looking at their a little bit surprising pick here at the Foro one we'll get to that shortly Do we I don't think we've We've talked necessarily a ton about Leonard Fournette and I just Kinda WanNa touch on him a little bit because we're talking about him last night and the night before we really don't know offer. God. This is unbelievable. I mean he was. You know he was he was cheap the couple of nights ago Oh we did talk about him. Yeah. Do you remember how many passes he caught in twenty nineteen I? Know it was a lot. It was more than sixty I don't know if you hit the seventy threshold You know look it up. Of course, if I think he's been catching you were. Sort of what I was. GonNa ask you is where you thought how many passes he would catching twenty twenty. This year is forty attainable forum is is fifty attainable form with crest Chris Thompson. As you mentioned, was Chris Thompson mean the healthy all year I mean he never he's my guess is no. Just seems. Kinda wash talk a little bit. Of Henry Muto chiming in the chat room seventy six is how many passes I Leonard? Fournette cost last year Yeah. Let me ask you this. Okay. So we caught seventy six passes last year. Do you think he's going to have three touchdowns this year no I don't I think he's going to have more so you're so if you drops on the fifty I think maybe it can be ten. He'll be he'll be fine. Did you see that Gardner Menchu Cova nineteen comments? He said that Corona virus came after him and as soon as it saw Gardner Vinci, the virus turned around and ran away. All only from Gardner? Mint you I. Love It. So Stanford at a false positive I did see that too, which is which is good news for sure I. It seems like there's Well I want to get into it. A lot of false positives over there. So I don't really have anything else to say about the third round here Dave When you look at the decision that Skyler was faced with here with You know knowing he's GonNa go running back. He could've had Jonathan Taylor he could James. Connery could add Melvin Gordon in any went with the League winner in Jonathan. Taylor I feel like it's just I'm ingrained in my DNA to go with the the guy that is younger who's unproven WHO You know he has not had the injury history that James Conner has had. Is that the right choice there to go with Jonathan Taylor and does it make a difference if you're drafting in the FCC or the FTC event to go with the rookie Jonathan Taylor over James Connor there That's a good question O'Connor's got Kinda got some uncertainty. Just he does have injuries three. He was never like this truly pedigree back whereas Taylor is they spent high draft capital on him and I think he will be productive. Offensive Line is fantastic. he has two other running backs in. Marlin. Mac. In Naim, hines as a pass catcher. So that's one of the things that does limit him. I probably would've gone receiver receiver there possibly but if I was going running back I could see I can see the case. I. Mean the actually. Back. Later David Johnson's probably where I would have gone with actually taking. The well that's really interesting we'll have to To To. Look at his ADP we get to that Henry Motor in the chat room team eleven hates running backs is that Pete again referring appear overset from Sunday night who wouldn't started off with a ton of outs by the way he said, he enjoyed list I. Don't know if you saw the tweet, he tweeted out that he really enjoyed listening to our analysis of of his team and how we were very polite about not liking his crazy strategy. He put in better word than I could. But yeah, he he enjoyed listening back to it. There true do Smith Schuster Odell Beckham Day, who's more likely to bounce back and have a big year and twenty twenty. You Know I. I Ju- over Beckham I just Beckham to me has that flake factor in general. I'm just not I want him in the Dynasty Leagues. I. Just didn't. He's been shopping around at all or no I've been working Yeah I. Suppose It's difficult. But if I was if I, if I felt like I would shopping around but I mean you know people are he's still commanded price for certain people some people will pay for them. Yeah. It's you know beauty is in the eye of the beholder here in beauty is in the eye. Of the Beckham Lover in this case, moving onto the fourth round here, and this is the pick I wanNA kick it off with I'm excited to talk about we'll recap the whole fourth round and we'll get back to it. But just man's actually takes the rookie out of Florida state CAM acres as number one running back at the four. Oh, one tonight, and then you get three receivers. Off The board right after that Adam feeling the brian to Manalo who had now has three receivers. One tight end Allen Robinson Howard bender is his second receiver Aj. Brown now is the number one receiver for Sky Islands here at the Foro Four, Melvin Gordon joins a crowded Backfield for Mike Beers with cloud. Edwards Allaire and Kenyan Drake. Then Calvin Ridley is the number one receiver for Peter. saint-pierre and Steve Ashley here. The F.. FCC Veterans who draft him at the four zero six you're looking at Amari Cooper right after that too Daryn Armani. David Johnson to James Boris here at the four zero eight interesting start there where you go Michael Talents Patrick Mahomes and still get four net and Dave Johnson is your top two running backs Levy on bell to Michael Maverick. Cooper Cup to Todd Hopkins Robert Woods way see those rams receivers, those teammates they go back to back and a lot of drafts protest joe so far this year Cuper Cup and then Robert Woods to beer makers fan that's Chris Prince from Rhode Grinders and then you have Darren Waller a true. Rainbow starting out here for Bryant Cooler. So pleasing to the eye green running back yellow receiver, pink quarterback, or read quarterback, and then purple on that rounds out the fourth round. All right. So a lot of picks I wanNA talk about here today first of all camakers at the four one, truly a pick to win type player. And Jeff Man's betting on his upside drafting him basically for his upside here as you look at the the F. FCC slim eighty P camakers normally does not come off the board until the five or seven didn't Jeff Man's do that who is Ben Tate remember that was years ago and pros vs Joes. Is the third or fourth round. Yeah and he and we're kind of scratching their heads like what what is it because he had like a seventh-round ADP now, this isn't that egregious but again, drafting on the ends I think strategy is a little bit different. You can take the value as it comes to you or you can go out and get your guys and I feel like sometimes and I don't know if this is true with you but you know. I'm always looking for value, but it's more important to me to get the players I target, get the players I want Especially when I'm looking at it from a season-long perspective I'll I'll often try to get those guys forget where I got them but to to to to be drafting at the one or the two or the eleven or twelve I, I definitely put more of an emphasis on getting my guys rather than hoping value falls to me Dave. It's interesting I. Think I'm generally the opposite. I think generally will. Look more towards who might have fallen somebody at the ends because I'm kind of restricted at one under the other. I think the important well I I do look for that too. It's not like I ignore it, but I'll say this you almost. I think balances the key and you don't WanNa. Be left out in the cold you Kinda Kinda you got to. See these runs coming. You know you gotta take a look at ADP gotTa look at pass draft boards. You gotTa Kinda know especially industry guys who draft against industry guys you Kinda gotTa know where the runs are coming to and I and I, feel like That's much more important on the ends than it is in the middle maybe fewer guys. That I've been you I think you do I think historically You have had fewer guys that you were trying to get and and for me there's There's so many you know I don't know you don't listen to many fantasy podcasts as I do. That's right because I've listened to zero. So I've been listening to a lot lately and and there's some and I I can't remember if I brought this up or not. so forgive me if I did. There is just so much pumping up of everybody everybody is going to be awesome this year there are no bus This is a great guy to I mean you can. You. Wait until the third round third round Oh my goodness. There's fourteen guys that are out there that you look in the fifth round. There's twenty seven guys that are make excellent fifth round pick you know and then just like I can't I I'm almost disgusted with the sugary positively that's going on a lot of these jeff's what happened to hating on people I guess that's reserved for twitter but but it's just it's so bizarre because I and that's why think I like all these guys is because I get in my head well I like this guy because this and this and this and was. A different podcast to them each each one may have certain players that they like in the fourth round and listen to them. Now you have ten guys. Designated you want yeah I like you're like, well, he did a good point need to take the shears, the old podcasting tree, Dave Prune that thing down to to get it to where we're actually helping me in I'm not getting a bunch of noise piped into my years Calvin Ridley to Peter saint-pierre Steve Ashley here Dave at the four zero six I love the fact that they can get those three running backs and still get Calvin Ridley who I think is a borderline top ten receiver this year really. Town. Yep I, like really a lot too. That's a that's a that's a bowl saving my friend just trying to see where he normally goes among receivers in this format Calvin Ridley wide receiver fourteen. So I. Thought it was being bold. I guess I wasn't I mean it's a little bit higher. Yeah. totally possible. But I, just I like that value there for for Saint Pierre and ask you to get him as their number one wide receiver. David. Johnson to Boris This is a guy who normally goes at the three twelve James Boris gets tonight they've at the four. Oh, eight two-thirds of around. Value, they're nice job. There will be no levy on bell in the fifth round tonight as Nazaret gets them. They're so good good on him, and then during waller at the end of the fourth round during waller normally goes with the five. Oh, two. So solid back there this is a very interesting fourth round. It's around that. We had seen over the last five pros vs Joe is drafts that were dominated By by receivers for sure and. Tonight. We see it receivers going off the board a lot in the fourth round and the fifth round two's as we get to that shortly here question from the chatroom here Henry Muna wants to know if there's a football guys draft live on our show this Friday and I I'll tease who's in it at the end of the show. But yes, we will be doing another live broadcast on the high stakes fantasy football or this Friday at nine eight central covering football guys players championship live with a lot of successful high stakes players Henry Muto actually won this league in twenty thirteen when we didn't like his in Tokyo Brown pick in around five and ended up panning out for him. As wasn't ICEPICK. He's not he's not in it this year, but I'll tell you the the twelve people who are after the broadcast here. Tonight, let's move onto the fifth round Portland leading things off as the number two receiver for Brian PA- Kula. PORTLAND. Sutton the wide receiver for Denver goes at the five Oh one tonight, Tyler Lockett right after that. Chris Prince. Followed by Rehim Moster as the third running back selected by the F. FCC Joe Todd Hopkins Michael Nazar. It goes with decay metcalf as his number two receiver to pair with Julio Jones out wide for him and that starts a big time receiver run here in the fifth round as well. Keenan Allen to James Boris Terry maclaurin is the third straight receiver drafted by Darren Armani here at the five zero six P. Y. Hilton to Saint Pierre and Ashi followed by Stefan digs to Mike Beers dj chart to sky. As, his selection of charges his number two receiver Hunter Henry a Guy, one of your few guys this year Dave in my opinion I think you like Hunter Henry and think that's a safe bet at this point David Montgomery is the number one running back for Brian to mellow and then De'andre Swift as Jeff. Man's goes back to back running backs in the rookie year for his picture in the fourth and fifth round acres swift Is this. This just reminds me of something. So in all these dynasty dress I was in this year I have drafted. Jonathan, Taylor JK, Dobbins, and quite Edwards. There have not had the Andrea Swift yet. Would it be crazy or how crazy would it be or is it not crazy at all? When I have the second pick in the dynasty rookie draft tomorrow take swift over Taylor. Just, so I have a share of of each of the big running backs in the draft I. Mean it's fine if you want to do that. Okay. I mean it's not crazy. It's not crazy but I'm sure the person picking thoroughly happy. Because workout trade here personally I wouldn't I wouldn't do it. I, would go Taylor. Yeah. Just go with the guy that I have rank second. Yeah. which is tailored for me Nice. Little value for Darren Armani here to get Harry MMA corn. This is a guy. We don't have to talk about him too much because I I like we've talked about how much of his target share is is is going to go up this year I, guess not much of a value. I feel like he's been going earlier than he normally goes to the five await Dave, he goes up to five or six tonight interestingly enough though they are talking about how Alex Mrs is GonNa be ready for training camp and he may actually competing with Haskins to that starting job. I don't know. I mean why don't you know Alex Smith is a former number one or number whatever he well. Yeah I mean. I premiums didn't like crush. It did you watch the the the ESPN special and you know him rehabilitating this enjoy about two minutes of it I? Just. Remember? Yeah. It is and it's tough for me and maybe I. I'm I'm probably the wrong here. I've been in the wrong plenty of times before but I see an injury like that and and just knowing that that that he is not a guy in his early twenties he's in his mid thirties now or early thirties whatever it is. It's tough for me to wrap my head around. This guy beating out. The handpicked guy, the owner wanted right so. It could happen I think I would like it better if out Smith was was the quarterback But haskins I still think has the better ceiling there. So it might be better from redraft perspective maybe not the greatest thing for Terry Maclaurin Long-term if he's got to get adjusted to that Shane Hallam. Chat says, he loves Alex Smith to seems to have grit. He doesn't know if you can move around enough at quarterback that's needed to be a starter but if he's back on the field I, guess my whole thing is he'll pass the eye test Dave. If I see a moving around like he's in his mid twenties again, you know if I see that I'm thinking well, maybe there is a chance here with Alex Smith throwing the ball to. Term a corn and the other Washington receivers. You see they just signed another receiver today. They signed yesterday or today Dontrelle Inman. Oh Yeah. Now a member of the WF C.. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Speaking. Yeah. Speaking of Alex Smith Dontrelle Inman now, a member of the Washington football team. I am not comfortable and I think we talked about this with David Montgomery as my number one running back Dave but it does make it a little bit more palatable. For Brian to Manalo that he started off with Kelsey Hill Smith Schuster and feeling. So it makes it a little bit more enjoyable to have Montgomery as my number one. There I guess you could. Do a lot worse and I like we took in the in the sixth round here they're giving US team construction to mellow by the way has one at least one football guys league championship in his in his time with the F. FCC. So he definitely knows what's going on there no surprise. We saw the big receiver run here coming up routine most or Dave is these starter for San Francisco he's going to have to contend with Kevin. Coleman is going to have to contend with Jerick. McKinnon but the more I look at his situation the more. I look at where he's going and drafts I'm I'm really starting to like him as far as the value pick normally goes at the four. Oh, wait. He falls to the five three tonight I. Don't know how many passes he's going to catch but my goodness Dave, it's fresh in my mind how well he ran the football in the playoffs last year and I feel like because he doesn't have a lot of mileage on those legs. He's got special team legs and you could probably put that to good work I. I think we're he most represents a pretty good. At the back end of the fourth round early part of the theft. Yeah. He's an interesting players to look at I have never owned actually so That'd be it would be a first of I drafted this year you you doesn't catch passes really much. I don't remember him catching a lot and the reason I know this is because I automobile Blake Carrington Dynasty League so if you want him Dave We can we definitely work something out here and you could have remastered on your team in twenty nineteen he caught fourteen passes He was not the time guy all season I actually you know what I should look at his game logs to see what he did down the stretch because obviously a big part of of what he did was in the playoffs too which is something that that I should remember He caught one pass against the chiefs to against the packers zero against Minnesota's in the playoffs. Three passes did didn't do much down the stretch as far as catching passes but again, that sort of baked into his fourth fifth round ADP here too which is the reason that he is slipping, but he had a lot of touches I mean he had at least ten carries every single game from December first on and oftentimes there over fifteen as well. Including Twenty nine carries against the packers such a terrible game more anybody who's a packer fan wasn't great Let's move onto the six round, which is great because there's a lot of stuff to talk about here. All right you have mark. Ingram is the third straight running back drafted by Jeff Man's here had the opportunity to take any Baltimore running back. He wanted he chose Mark Ingram. Kareem Hunt off the board is the number two running back for Brian to Manella like that pick their The double H is H is Howard Bender at tight end as he goes hunter Henry in the fifth and Hayden hearst you're in the six back to back tight end the first team to double up on tight ends. How will that affect the rest of the draft? We shall see Mark Brown hidden hers ex real life teammate goes to sky is right after that at these six Oh four. Evan. Ingram of the New York giants tight end is now a member of Mike Beers franchise here as he is the six. Oh. Five Tonight Tyler Board third straight receiver drafted by. Peter. saint-pierre and Steve. Ashi, as they have to go with Calvin Ridley and T. Y. Hilton Darius geiss number three in the backfield four Darren Armani two thousand Cook and Austin Ecuador Tyler Higby the polarizing. Tyler. Is That's that's you can't say tyler higby anymore you have to say the word polarizing in front of what he is James Boris gets him as number one tight end Jarvis Landry Devante Parker quickly go off the board after that. That's to Michael Nasdaq in the four spot devante. Parker to Todd Hopkins here in the three spot Rob Gronkowski is Chris Prince's backup tight end to mark Andrews and then Ronald Jones moving up moving up six twelve tonight for Brian Peculiar as he goes with a Christian McCaffrey Ronald Jones backfield. That's where we're at on that and that's where we have. To. Go in the six round. So yet four times off the board here as I look at Where these guys normally go dave starting with Evan Ingram tonight went at the at the six Oh five he normally goes. Three no there higby six Oh, nine, tonight, six, zero, eight, hundred, hundred and Hayden hers actually have been going at the beginning of the seventh round Dave they go in the early six, well in the fifth and then the the early six tonight by Howard vendor again, just going out and getting his guys you have talked about the importance of not going early quarterback and and early tight end What's your philosophy on not necessarily going tight end Titan to start a draft but getting a couple of mid tier guys back to back like Howard Bender did here in the fifth and sixth round is that a strategy we you would employ a tight end premium draft. If I was if I was really big fan of those of the players I was getting I I think I could do that. I generally probably wouldn't I probably would be more apt. To draft there in his case have drafted Henry. And then probably if I drafted Henry not not running back correct or something. I probably have to receiver like Tyler Boyd thought that was actually a nice pick in the by Peter saint-pierre truly thereafter before tight ends that went off the board in the sixth round hearst Ingram Hyler higby and Rob Gronkowski Shane Hallam chiming in the blog talk radio chat room saying he thinks he likes Hayden hearst the most it says it's risky too risky pick but the upside is huge is hearst your favorite tight end of those four as well. They've even where they went gronk higby and grim and her yeah, and he did go I of course. But yeah, the just playing that offense it is so tight unfriendly and The other guys are income in school attention, Julio, and really recommend so much attention. You have a pro bowl caliber quarterback I didn't realize that. Well, I mean I knew Hayden was Kinda old for tight end coming into the League and I guess when I hear that I just assumed Mormon mission. You know like that's just the first thing that comes he. Was Actually a minor league baseball player and I think he was a pitcher and just whatever reason just could not find the strike zone anymore. So he decided to give football a crack and now look at them. They're he's he's me. He's supposed to inject crap in the NFL well I mean but to but to be in the NFL for what is this third year? That is an accomplishment given his his earlier career choice and then given how far he was behind the curve to some of these other players I think he's doing well, but you're right he's. Here to work. I'm sure you've worked really hard coming from baseball getting back into football shape football size, speed agility, just doing all that stuff So Yeah Kudos to him to to be were you not got he was a first round pick. So that was impressive itself. But ask you about Jarvis Landry, here, I'm just kind of looking his injury that he had He is on the active list. He had hip surgery jake trotter who I believe covers the browns for ESPN says that he's expected to return from this hip surgery on time he headed back in February last year eighty, three catches almost twelve hundred yards five and a half targets per game in eight games with Cleveland last year. Are you concerned about this hip surgery Dave given that hand? Gun So he had. Twelve hundred yards eleven hundred eleven hundred no, no. No excuse. Me See at eighty three catches for eleven hundred and seventy four yards had. Yes five and a half targets per game in eight games. So instead, even in eight games, the average at least five and targets game. Oh. Okay. So he played all sixteen games eight of those games. He had five and a half or more time I'm GONNA look yes. I'M GONNA look at the game. Love. Verified. I didn't it didn't computer may seem like he only played Kim's somehow he played all sixteen. Explain. Yeah, actually he came on at the end well, I guess he the he was pretty steady Eddie for the entire season. But okay. So knowing that he put up these numbers and knowing that you know you could get him in tonight's draft at the six zero nine Dave would you are you? Okay with that given the hip surgery that happened six months ago. I don't think. So actually I think that you'll never gonNA speed player I guess. I have you have concerns about him coming back from that from hip surgery and the fact that he's on the active public six months after the surgery. you know I mean it could be just being super precautionary I. Mean They say if they say he's backing looking good. I. Think I'd be more asked to draft him but he was ever. That speed and everyone is game. But if he loses, you know anything off of his forty time that makes it even worse isn't going to be able to separate I. Guess can get open yeah. Just change of direction from for me from hip surgery I think is the biggest thing for me is getting open and and then making guys missed certainly won't be. An easy thing for Jarvis Landry to if he is not fully healthy he will at least have the advantage of being closer to being in football shape because of the weird offseason. So it's not like he's going to be behind the curve relatives who the other receivers in. CLEVELAND. Moving onto the seventh round here Brandin cooks kicking things off here. For Brian. Peculiar at the Oh one JK Dobbins in other rookie running back and Chris Prints makes him his third rusher here at the seven zero two Devon Single Terry, the number four running back drafted by todd. Hopkins, here, seven hundred three jared. Cook is backing up Zach Ertz for Michael. Danza and the F. F. mastermind squad here in the four slot. MARLIN MAC to James Boris as his number three running back. Dak Prescott is once again the third quarterback off the board fossil the seventh round tonight and Armani gets him here at the seven Oh six. No fans off the board do Peter saint-pierre and Steve. Ashi. Here at the seven Oh seven tonight and if I'm counting correctly believe that makes fant the number. Twelve tight end. So I, guess that is about on par with The normal order goes will fuller my guy to Mike Beers from Rove is Seven eight Marines the fourth quarterback chosen and the number one quarterback for sky. Here taking Tyler Murray at the seven zero nine Jordan Howard is the third running back selected by Howard Bender, and then you have the Andre Johnson and green wrapping up the seventh round, the Anti Johnson to to mellow and then Aj green to jeff man's Dave. This is a best fall slim format, set it, and forget it and to mellow now has. The top two receivers in Pittsburgh I would never consider Pittsburgh as an elite passing team, but they do get Ben Rothlisberger back You would think that he's going to be much more capable than Mason Rudolph and the other guys that they were trying out there last year can you get on board and a format like this with they juju Smith Schuster deontay Johnson Stack. If I you Johnson I could. Sure. We talked about last night huge fan of him. So I'd be on different different direction but I got on board with that the you know the news came out today it was kind of newsworthy that a big Ben's coming back from an injury that he thinks no one has ever come back from before he's thirty eight. So Office Berger said this. Yeah. Oh. My God really. Yeah. I don't know if that instills confidence that me. Yeah it's. Kind of give you a little bit of a pause at least you know when you're when you think about it's like, oh, he's coming back and then what if he fails you know what if he's just totally not able to do it well then John Johnson are probably going to suffer because of you think he's trying to motivate themselves through the media. I mean is there any possibility there with because I don't know. I. Don't know if Ben Rothlisberger capable is capable, but I mean just say like you know nobody's ever come back from or I don't believe anybody's ever come back from before. So I don't know if he's challenging himself to to work hard to be the first guy I don't know. Yeah, I mean he says he feels young says he still wants to win them barbies and he says that the injury as he described involved terror of three of the five flexor tendons elbowing us I quarterback to attempt to come back from such an ailment. He's thinner and lighter which I don't know I don't know how in like. Yeah. Didn't light for him is like two fifty to fifty, five I saw the you know. This is probably like a month month and a half ago maybe two months ago now because we're in August but there's the video of him sort of throwing He wasn't it throwing it one hundred percent effort or one hundred percent speed and it didn't look it didn't look natural. It didn't look good. He looked like again like a sixty year old quarterback that's just tossing the but he was on purpose not going full bore he had the long hair and the long. Beard and he said he wasn't GonNa Shave either one either one until he was throwing regular speed NFL passes to his teammates and then they the steelers put on instagram video of him whistling these out patterns to johnson-smith Schuster and everything, and the very next thing was Kim shaving off his beard and getting a haircut and he did look good you look much better than that. But I think you're right to to have some trepidation with the the steelers receivers this year. You kinda gotta look what who's going around them and and does the does the ceiling matchup with the risk that you're taking their and that's a question that everybody will have to answer. Obviously, we've seen how Brian to mellow has answered that question with Smith, Schuster in the third and then Deontay. Johnson in the seventh I. Am a Big Matt Brita Guy I like Matt Brita I think that he is going to be catching a lot of passes for Miami and this. Year, and the reason I. Well, one of the reasons I like them to maybe more than others is i. don't Jordan Howard Dave I am not a fan I know as the starter I know he's going to get the most carries there as long as he stays healthy for Miami but I just look at the Jordan and Matt Brita tonight goes the Peter saint-pierre and Steve Ashley here in the eighth, we'll get to that in a second but when Jordan Howard up there. In the seventh thrown I'm. Totally. Passing on him every time and maybe Brita makes it to me I'll take him. But I just I can't get on with Jordan harder been burned by that guy too much when I tried to draft as a third or fourth running back almost never pans out well, then you have to contend with Miami, which has one of the worst offensive lines in football. So in of has to deal with that last just because he's me to pass catching back but you know if you if you think to is going to be there too I mean and I think he, I, actually think he will be out there but think that bodes well for you. Yeah. Chain Hallam also chiming in saying, greet a better than Howard give me the guy who catches passes i. feel like that's been a theme for a lot of high stakes drafters over the year. Not to take moster. While the WHO's GonNa? WHO's a pass Catcher for? San. Francisco used to be Brita. Yeah, Kiddo exactly lineup up at the back there certainly I, I don't. Okay. So a lot of this stuff I know I've said before here's a question. I don't think I've asked you through all the pros vs Joes who you like better this year given that they are going pretty close to each other between Dak Prescott and Cuyler Murray. If you'RE GONNA take one of those guys, is it Murray because he's more of a threat with his legs? Took Prescott I. Feel a little safer with him because of the weapons and and the fact that he has done longer. Yeah. He's don't like. Yeah. He's more experienced on longer ASI lamb So I just feel more comfortable with that Prescott moving on into the eighth round here after Aj Green goes to Jeff Manza the seven twelve he doubles up with Moss. Zach. Moss. The backup or potentially starting running back through buffalo depending upon where you fall in on that conversation Dallas got it is going to be backing up traffic Kelsey Brian to Manalo here as he takes him at the eight to Shawn Watson Fifth quarterback off the board to Howard Bender tonight followed by Mike just sticky to sky. You. The Russell Wilson going to Mike Beers tonight. As a six quarterback going. It seems pretty good Russell. Wilson is the six quarterback like that quite a bit. Mat to Saint Pierre and Ashi right after that Michael Gallup, the number four receiver drafted by Darren. Armani. Followed by Kerryon Johnson the second Johnson running back to James Boers says he has the Johnson and Johnson backfield with David and carry on also going with Leonard. Fournette and Marlin Mac there to Matt Ryan's the first quarterback drafted by Michael Nasdaq here at the eight hundred nine followed by Jonah Smith. To Todd Hopkins as his starting Titan devaux Samuel won't be an action too soon with with his injury but eventually he will be is the number three receiver four Chris Parents Austin. Cooper is the final pick of the eighth round backing up there and waller at Titan for Brian Peculiar. Probably, a question Dave that will depend on if you went with an elite tight end. But when do you think is the right time to have two tight ends in a best ball slim format like this when when do you WanNa make sure you have to tie and I guess maybe the better way to phrase it as not necessarily around. But do you want to have two of the top blink tight ends in this is is the top fifteen is the top twenty I think it does matter a bit if you did take one of the guys on and I would classify Andrews and Earth says. In that elite style. Yeah. I mean you know the second tier behind calcium kittle. I. Probably to the top fifteen or seventeen I, I want to be one of the. First four or five people take a second tight on. Yeah I think so I think that's the way I would I would treat it as well. It just makes again if you're not getting one of the big four I think that's the way to do it. I. Are you worried about Zach Moss if you own Devon Single Terry this year I don't really worried about him I although I think Zach must've definitely a standalone value and I think that he he's a pretty solid to. Mike no I thought that both single tear it seems like that He. That seems really for him. So I thought that was when you look at the difference between. Taking. Of Seventy, three and Marlin MAC whose job is like you know your Wife before right slater It's a really nice value for singles area there What's interesting is You know think about an office space meeting and the Bob's bring in the Backfield for the Indianapolis. Colts, and they talked to Jonathan Taylor. Well, what do you do around here? Well, I'm the lead dog can catch passes I could pick up blitzes. The team drafted me in the early second round I'm the future in this backfield may turned into him hines well. What do you do peer on the pass Catcher and I'm GONNA come on Third Down Philip. Rivers is gonNA use me as a safety valve and catch a you know forty fifty even sixty passes this year and they turn to Marlin back. Well, what do you do Marlin? Why basically do with those two guys do but at about a fifty percent efficiency rating. And that's it, and then he is jettisoned maybe not off the team but definitely relegated to the bench, and until there is you know an opportunity that presents itself because of an injury or something like that, but it's hard to get excited for Mac. Yeah I agree. It's funny though Marlin Mac I mean he was very productive. You know last year in the near if you reform yourself the I thought he's actually pretty solid, but he was never a pedigree back right in the team never looked at them as an elite back that. That's I. Think when you look at Aaron, Jones, people still have that trepidation with Aaron Jones I. think that's why he goes eight second. As for some amongst other reasons, if you are not a believer in Marlin Mac and if you see what he did last year as far as stats go, you gotta be super excitable would pedigree guy like Jonathan Taylor could do behind that offensive line though yeah. For sure if he gets the opportunity like I think he might actually I really do think I and we've talked about kind of leaving rookie running backs alone. But at a certain point, you know you have to realize that they they they might get their opportunity but in eleven game like main event type season, they may not get it in time for you to do well. So in is not, he's not cheap I mean at least. You. Know Dobbins goes in the seventh round here you know. So that's that's pretty inexpensive Taylor's third around to Taylor. When at the three Oh nine tonight on average he has been going in in these F. FCC best ball slim's at the three ten. So he was right on brand tonight for that selection I wanted to bring this up back in the fifth round and it's slipped my mind cause we're talking about something else but in the fifth round, you saw Tyler Lockett. go to Chris Sprints at the five zero to two picks later Michael Nazar took decay metcalf. I don't think we've seen lock go ahead of metcalf in any of these pressures Joe's so far but it happens tonight the question I have for you dave with talking about crafting one of those Seattle seahawks receivers in the fifth round. Do you do you have any pause about making that selection knowing that the seahawks continued to be mentioned in the same breath as being interested in Antonio Brown And also hoping Josh Gordon is back this year too. Yeah. You know that's that's something to think about it really is But you know Antonio Brown's out for eight games that the start right I mean. That was correct and he says he's not a report I read said that he's not appealing either so it will be an about about. Yes so I mean. It you know if if that actually happened and he did come back, he would for sure. The production both those players I think that is true. You know I like that. If that's the case, Russell Wilson because because you know. I. I can't remember who said. This is an analyst on twitter said. Here's the Seattle offense the last couple of years. Pounded unsuccessfully and inefficiently for three quarters and then let Russell Wilson go wild in the fourth quarter headed pastor because he had to and and he has the skills to, and you know I, I I don't think Josh Gordon has anything to write home about at this point anymore You know even when he was healthy, he was not all that effective when he came back off of whatever suspension it was whatever number suspension it was Antonio Brown I think there's some juice left there and there could be that could hurt the the value of of both, walk it and. If he's there but Russell Wilson certainly would get a bump up my rankings post show as the kids say have we mentioned Johnny Smith at all this year I think that you maybe we have because I feel like you don't like them this year the starting tight end for the Tennessee titans in a non explosive pass offense I would I would look at them i. mean people people do like them I I really haven't draft him I think it's because I was on his second year and he was terrible. So it's tough for me to get back on board. There was. Not, his first years of starter but when he was still backing up, delany? Walker. I had to Laney Walker in a League in Kentucky League actually, and he was declared out you know like caution or something you know Delaney walkers just. So dinged up the last couple years nearly and I needed a tight end desperately Jonah Smith is out on the waiver wire I. Didn't have much cash left in my blind bidding I. Got Him super excited. Still Kinda like this is great I have a legit tight end one that I can play this week and Dave. I think he had one target zero, zero right scored zero. I know starting to them more than once and he's got nothing and that has I have penalized Johnny Smith in my fantasy evaluation of ever since I can no longer talk unbiased Louis about John Who Smith. And That's our own fault. That's our problem. We really we should be you should be able to let that go and I can't. You know it's it's the same people. Okay. So so I've heard this before the the people who say I will never draft ex player again after this and I think that's a mistake I. Okay. Initially I thought that was a mistake I'm like you know you gotta put your emotions to the side you know and and make sure that you are. It's the same thing with. The whole ray rice and Adrian Peterson thing when when they were, you know Bennett or whatever. You know people took a moral stance that I will never owned that guy and I was always of the opinion like well, okay. That's fine and I respect that it's your team. Do you WanNa do but there are going to be other players that take him that will use him against you and they they might end up costing fantasy win because. You you followed your heart instead of you know your mind or whatever. Then I was thinking about this and I'm like I don't think that's a mistake anymore I think you should draft the players that you want to root for draft the players that makes fantasy football fun and if you don't WanNa root for those players don't trap them it's your team. It's not anybody else's team you do you and I think that is how I I've changed my stance on. That's fine. I can live with that. All right. So get onto the ninth round here Dave, as we're approaching the halfway point of pros vs Joes Macho Man Number Yeah I was gonNA. Say the same reserve. Pick a player. Christian Kirk is the first guy off the board here at the nine zero one. Brian Cooler. Couple of tight ends. Then TJ Hopkinson to Chris Brands and Jack Doyle to todd. Philip Lindsay my number one running back in. So many of my drafts gotTa Stop Looking Early Trust just. So speaking of frustrating things, Bill Lindsay at the ninety four tonight Julian I don James Boris and then you have Blake Darwin starting at tight end for Darren Armani Emmanuel. Sanders is going to be the number four wide receiver for Peter, Saint Pierre and Steve Ashi in the seven slot tonight Marvin. Jones. Off The board is the number four receiver for Mike Beers, the twenty seventeen pros vs joes champion James White Pass catching running back. He's GonNa be the number four running back for Schuyler followed by various Slayton to Howard Bender here at. The nine ten Alexander Madison off the Board to nine eleven Brian to Manila and then Mike Williams Jeff Man's nine twelve. That is how the ninth round finishes here tonight my favorite tight end in this round no, it's not TJ Hopkinson Dave actually Jack Doyle I think he's being underrated. I know he gets hurt a lot but I feel like in that Indianapolis offense with Philip. Rivers. WHO's really targeted the tight end over the course of his career and granted he's had some pretty good tight on the throat to one hundred Henry Antonio Gates so on and so forth. But I think Jack Doyle being underrated I really like him this year where he's going. That's an interesting point when you talk about rivers and throwing the titans, all the time with is kind of weird top gun. Yeah. What do we have pop? Yeah, that's what it looks like. There's delivery. Let's just he's just he's never he. I don't WANNA say he throws like a girl but you know I'm I'm trying to teach my listeners. Yeah. I'm trying to teach my my son to throw with his full arm with the wind up you know and Philip Rivers I. Don't think his dad ever taught him that because he just he flicks his wrist and and the ball sales Shane Hallam making an interesting point tonight he thinks trey? Burton. Is actually going to be better than Jack Door remember trae Burton is back with Frank Reich in. This year and actually did make my final I think it was my final pick other Scott. fishbowl. Was Trey Burton as my number three or four tight end. So there might be something there too and I believe he did go. In one of the pros vs Joes in the final round. If I remember correctly I figure was this week it was either Sunday or Monday night somebody Trey Burton with the last pick of the around. But I still liked oil I know chain has is going to hammer hammer me with his hallam hammer over that. But I'm I'm that that's the way I feel right now certainly, Burton with the value that you can get them is is very attractive. They're nobody else. I don't okay. one other player wanted to talk about Alexander. Madison. Here Dave he has slipped ever since Dalvand. Cook reported to training camp for the Minnesota Vikings knowing that there will be hold out there Is there any kind of value to you and taking Alexander Madison in the ninth round if you don't have Dalvin Cook I mean is is that a particularly attractive pick I'm framing this in a way for you to say no, that's a bad thing. You know I think it's just an okay. Pick A I've probably gone a little bit tried to what save you Marie. Or Three Cohen because they both have standalone value. Not, the Madison. Doesn't put us less I mean Cook. Really is does command the ball by the way Shane Hallam was the guy who took chamber in the last round of the. That's funny. I like how he's like you know sub- doubting himself when you know it just it which is i. know that sounds like a bad thing it's a great thing. Yeah. WHO's the genius? Who did that oh? Wait it. Was Me that was me Here's the thing with Madison for me. It's like you remember when when Delvin Cook got hurt and we were talking about well, who who's the guy going to be you know Mike Boone, got Lotta onto and if I remember correctly I believe both those guys were healthy and and Mike Boone was getting a lot of run and then they had somebody else takes center stage coming back after the after the You know the return of Madison or whatever, and then they had somebody else again if I'm remembering correctly, it was just a mess in that backfield. So that's another reason I'm kind of High Madison just doesn't. I don't think he's going to be the guy if if cook were to go down let's get into the tenth round and talk about the guys that were selected their Daryl Henderson kicking things off at ten one. McColl Hartman followed by Sony Michelle men at the ten to Sony Michelle at the tunnel three pair of Georgia bulldogs department remembering correctly the coal Hartman go to Georgia. You're asking the wrong guy you would know. Yeah. I don't know Shane get on that. Just because it's hard. Yeah I can't remember I thought it was Georgia maybe what? City lamb off the board after that to allers at the channel four tonight followed by Tariq Cohen to Mike Beers. He gets him as his number four running back Carson. Wentz we'll be the starting signal caller for Peter saint-pierre and Steve Sheet that's the Doboy is right Peter saint-pierre doboy. Yeah. All right. How confirmed both went to Georgia not the doe boys but Hardman and Michelle Chris Herndon back back tight end selections here for Armani Blake Darwin in the ninth and now Chris Herndon in the couple of upside guys they're Latavius Murray off the board to James Boris. One pick away from Michael Nasdaq. Not sure if he would have taken latavius Murray here in the tent had he had the opportunity, but he takes Jamison crowder instead Tony Pollard to Todd Hopkins he matches up Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard together seven Coleman to Chris Prints as his number four running back followed by the rookie speedster out of Alabama. Rugs to Brian Picolo. I know rugs was the first receiver drafted this year. David Very Deep Wide Receiver Class I'm I I know he is a speed guy is he more than a speed guy to you Do you think he has the chops could be a number one receiver in the NFL with with Derek Carr Mario order somebody throwing them for Las Vegas. Well here's a chance to be I think. If, you're an optimistic rose colored glasses. You think, maybe the next I because he has speed, here's a speed that is unmatched by anyone else in this draft class and you've been every couple of. Once every few years type speedster. he wasn't. You know he was less productive than his team mate. So that's the question that. Needs. To be asked. But I don't think it's a bad pick and best ball formats because you know even if he's Just to you know catching bombs every once in a while. I mean even if he catches, you know four eighty are touchdowns over the course of the seasonings finding a few four times then so he's not he's not bad pick. You Have Alvin Kamara and you take him with the third or fourth pick fifth pick whatever Latavius Maria mosque for you if you can get him in the ninth or tenth. season. Moss. No. She's kind of a nice to how type thing. Okay. All right. Got It. I everything. Okay I'm GonNa, do the American thing here Dave and say one thing and do the exact opposite. I have drafted Alvin Kamara and so many leagues this year I've Gotten Latavius Marine One of 'em in and I don't think it's I. Don't think it's a Chimera team of mine like I think just drafted him which is so bizarre I actually I was really shocked because normally I'm vigilant about stuff like that in hooking, you know getting a hookup and it's not I look back at these draft boards. They they weren't like overdrafted berry was not over I should've gotten them in more leagues and I didn't. So now I might pay the price of Chimera goes down because Latavius Mary looked really good a couple of weeks win Chimera missed last year certainly something to be concerned about if you miss out on the Tavis Murray when you own Alvin Kamara, we talked about Theriault Cohen there's no reason to discuss him anymore we have talked about the jets Dave passing game talking about. Is a param? Is he going to be the number one receiver Can Denzel mims make a dent and become the number one guy right away one of the guys that we have not talked about I is a player who just got taken in this round here the tenth round Jamison crowder has caught a lot of passes over the year. In fact, he's really endeared himself to PR fantasy players given how many catches he can get maybe the obvious choice here for the jets number one receiver. Bad. We don't really think traditionally as a number one receiver could be crowder. Yeah he's a slot guy but he he commanded a lot of terrorist last year. He's he's a pretty good playmaker I i. like him take a guess at how many targets he had last year in playing sixteen games starting twelve of them. Played Sixteen sort of twelve, hundred ten. One hundred and twenty two targets. Good guys a lot hundred and twenty two targets seventy eight catches for eight, hundred, thirty, three yards and six touchdowns. Last you that's pretty solid. What was he like Wide Receiver Twenty, eight or thirty probably now you're asking me a question I can't find out about their. That's all right. Yeah, I was. Yeah. Oh Yeah. On they've got an. He's being drafted as wide receiver forty, one on average at the ten twelve tonight he goes at the at the ten on nine. So again, very close to his normal. ADP. That seems like a nice little value there if you can get him as your number four receiver, I think you're doing it right as the kids say, what are we? Totally, agree. Moving onto the Eleventh Round here ladies and gentlemen as Yeah. We're two picks away from completing the eleventh round I'll get to it here because Sean von leading things off for Brian cooler here, the F. FCC Joe in the number one spot he goes keyshawn followed by Anthony Miller another receiver I really liked this year Tom Brady falls to the eleventh round and he is the number one quarterback for Todd Hopkins boy. You wait ten rounds, and then in the eleventh down the end up taking a guy who has six rings multiple MVP awards Dave, and he's throwing to Mike Evans Chris Godwin and Rob Gronkowski. That's got a few. And, OJ Howard and Cameron Bright. That's GONNA. Make you feel warm and fuzzy. Type Todd there through Johnson off the board to Michael Nasdaq one pick away from James Boris which would have been his third Johnson running back so would've been the Johnson Johnson and Johnson wishboned backfield too bad. So sad sterling shepherd to sue Boris settles for instead as his number four receiver Boston Scott Darren Armani right after that, and then a trio of tight ends Jay Stern Burger to saint-pierre and Ashi Ian Thomas to Mike Beers followed by Herb Smith to sky. That is the number two tight end for each one of those teams. As each of them now has to tight end. You have Josh Allen going off the board to Howard Bender as he has two quarterbacks now Alan to Shawn Watson and then Aj, Dylan the board to Brian to Manalo as the penultimate pick of the eleventh round, and then wrapping things up here is Jalen Rigor in the eleventh to Jeff Man's Jeff Man's going a little rookie crazy here. Dave well. We we can talk about it's twelve pick here with Michael Pittman, but you look at his draft so far he has five rookies on his team certainly going all upside here, and you know we talked about avoiding rookies in general man's going be complete. Opposite Direction is there is there something to be said for that given what we have said you know with this trump off season is there value in zagging hard when everybody else is thinking our personally think it's a recipe for disaster. So I think no. Yeah. there. There's GonNa be sudden that that's my opinion. When when you house that much of your team be rookies, it's like you're you're just piling risk upon risk fund risk now if they're all great great. They. Don't all have to be great, but they are they have to do something. So I, don't know I just don't I don't I don't see I thought it was see I thought it was interesting that he took acre swift and then. Taking. Dobbins. You took Ingram's but I thought you know he's clearly not just taking rookies out of spider, right? Yeah. So he he likes those players. So you know good on him and if they pan out. I'm sure some well. When you have that many in generally rookies. Don't you know not that they don't produce me but some do some don't a lot of times they don't they are so hit or miss obviously and and that's that's the mystery box. It all depends on how risky you WANNA be banned is going full on risk tonight We'll see what happens they're going forward How much if any standalone value does AJ Dylan have. Scale one to ten you'RE GONNA. Put it at like to. I'm not sure it's interesting. We used to be from. Williams. Yup. She's likely to do. You might get some line action possibly I. mean there's a chance. He I. Guess You could. Take that role. The team drafted him really some maybe a four. I heard scuttle but and I don't necessarily believe this but there's chances of local guy. That's well, this is what I'm hearing and I don't know if this is I'm not and when I say this is what I'm hearing not well connected I'm barely connected I'm like the the shredded ACL MC l. that's just hanging by a thread That's how connected I. Jamal Williams could be cut before the season starts and they go with the backfield of Aaron Jones. Aj Dylan and then Tyler who would double as a return specialist as well Chain how says he's with you four for AJ Dylan and ball as far as he'll get a few multi touchdown games and get best ball value. I. I think that I don't know. I've been down on Aaron Jones, knees for for a while, and now I feel like this is the year that I've invested more in him than I ever have before and I. Think this is the year you let me down and I've gotten sniping AJ Dylan a few times too when I was one back away from drafting I'm I just it's not shaping up good me. Johnson is going to be the Backfield running-mate for David Johnson Johnson goes to Michael Nasdaq here in the eleventh round not he's got some standalone value Dave and certainly maybe have a higher ceiling. If David Johnson can't stay healthy or if he's just doesn't have it anymore do Johnson could be a huge beneficiary and could make a lot of best ball people happy especially when they're getting them in the eleventh round. That's a good point. I've kind of. My thing with you Johnson is David. Johnson is such a good pass catching back. But maybe like you said, maybe he's just aged isn't me? Why was he so bad in in Arizona last year and that's part of the question that you have to ask Johnson? So yeah, I think you. Johnson. Find the eleven. with the signing of Shawn McCoy. Did that slam the door on you investing in any keyshawn on at all this year I know you're kind of down on them to begin with, but it seems like he's been dropping and drafts and Jones has been going higher. I think that I thought he was a good pick because that owner has Ronald. Jones. So you know since Brian took Roggio. works if. I think I think. It's okay. I. Don't yeah. I know what you're saying about just taking on his own right? Yeah. I I think that'd be donal down maybe another around for I think for me it's just I I would move on it and McCoy is going to do anything but hurt the fantasy value of Jones and Bonn. Classic I. Why are You doing this? He's he's he doesn't have. The same upside is as the rookie third rounder as as as your former rookie second former second round pick in in Ronald. Jones just doesn't have the juice anymore unless you're gonNA, I don't think. McCoy mix huge impact on route. That's my opinion. Okay. All right. serious. Yesterday did move be moving on Michael Pittman. Said to Jeff Man's at the twelve o one big Ben Rothlisberger. So to mellow does what what we talked about earlier he gets Miss Schuster he gets the ONTA- Johnson and now he gets Ben Rothlisberger all he needs now is high and wards to complete the force. Their Curtis Samuel off the Board at twelve three to Howard Bender Preston Williams to sky I was right after that is his number five wide up. This is the quarterback round as seven of them. Go off the Board Matthew Stafford Suddenly Kovin Free Matthew Stafford to Mike Beers drew brees right after that drew brees is the number five or six quarterback drafted last night they were and how the mighty have fallen. All of a sudden everybody realized these forty two years old or forty one or whatever does chase Edmunds goes during our mind chase Edmunds. Is. The second half of a pair of interesting picks their by Darren Armani in the eleventh in. Office he gets some too high upside handcuff guys in Scott and Edmund and baby some standalone value with Boston Scott as well. Aaron Rodgers to James Boris Tobacco Patrick Mahomes Daniel Jones to Michael Nasreen Tobacco Matt Ryan Baker Mayfield to backup Todd Hopkins and Cam Newton to Chris Princeton the twelfth and his starting quarterback. The former MVP goes to beer makers fan here with the ultimate pick up. The Twelfth Brown last pic- being another rookie as cool. Goes back to back with rookies here to Sean Vaughan and then fellow rookie running back and Tonio Gibson. Stafford's underrated name I said it last year saying it again this year I like his like his weapons is a former number one overall pick and that lions defense is how you say no and they didn't do much about they. Didn't do in the off season to improve it, and I know they got Jeffrey Okuda to sort of take over the Darius slay role. But he is a rookie and he's a rookie corner rookie do make a lot of mistakes and I think that the lions once again they're they're arguably the worst team in that division they're gonna be throwing a lot. They're gonNA be doing a lot. To Golladay Marvin Jones the Andrea swift and TJ Hodkinson Stafford a lot here in the eleventh round twelfth routes sees me well, especially since Mike Beers you mentioned Golladay m Jones he happened to get the trio so you didn't even notice that number. Nice Yeah Yep. So he just you know he's the same thing that's interesting that these guys do you know he and Brian Tuna gets a Stack of two receivers we haven't seen that we saw a little bit but I mean not getting both usually. act. It's funny because you know. To, Manila definitely. Kind of you know I'm not saying reached. Pretty Kinda reached on Rothlisburger rothlisburger probably would go near the end of those seven quarterbacks I dunno stafford necessarily staffer of goes right in that range. It seems like so it seems like that's more like normal for for where where they were little lot right there. Yeah. To me it seems like like rothlisburger generally wouldn't go ahead of Stafford Brunell Rogers usually goes up behind all those. Two on average as quarterback seventeen whichever and that's it's a fine. It's actually a fine tech but that is like any probably wouldn't have got him in the thirteenth maybe would've I don't know but I mean it you know the thing is it's like. How many guys went with quarterbacks after Rothlisburger here six you're talking about you know dodging six bullets there which you might have been able to do just talking leaves do it in the Matrix it's impossible and he did need to take one quarterback pretty much. So you're taking someone else and then gone for the summer. But if you WANNA get the stack on that, he just he. Had to take that is the way to do it for sure but yeah, I didn't realize there's all these these all these stacks going on tonight we got the bucks stack in the one spot we got the steelers stack and the eleven spot and get the lion stack the eight spot. That's an underrated one for sure I. Okay. Now, moving on I'm not gonNa say it yet but. I got a joke. All all ready to go in the holster here. Dave think its going to be a good one. Oh, boy percentage chance that Curtis Samuel is a Carolina Panther Week one. Is it a foregone conclusion? I still think he could get moved I? I don't think. So, like ninety percent ninety, five percent. Yeah, far perfect. you still like Preston Williams obviously as do I I feel like there's one other quarterback we should Oh, I'll tell you a quarterback. We can talk about another semi polarizing guy has he sort of came on last year? What do you make Daniel Jones He's got some weapons. You know maybe not an Alpha receiver but Evan anger is a you know consensus top six F. FCC tight on this year he's got saquon Barkley out of the backfield make things easier for him you. Know when he runs the ball and you can also catch the passes to and Daniel. Jones by the way can use his legs to to his advantage get some rushing stats to Daniel Jones in the twelfth round I feel like I penalize them. Because I thought it was not a good pick by the giants when they drafted him but maybe I'm wrong here and and maybe that he's guy that that I should be looking at as as a backup quarterback for my best ball teams. So he was pretty productive, he had some really solid games that. I'm trying to pull up his games game logs but. Seems like you had a few like four and five touchdown games last year and I was actually pretty shocked. Maybe that's wrong We have a four touchdown game week seven and four touchdown game in week nine and a five touching even we twelve that's pretty impressive. Rookie I mean really is in the past reading one, twenty, four, one, twenty, two, and one, thirty, two how yeah. So yeah, that's pretty solid and like you said. You only started. he played thirteen games, but he had two, hundred, seventy, nine rushing yards to show. That's pretty again pretty good for someone that you own it. You don't really think of him as he looks like you I but he doesn't rush like you. I saw no way better. So yeah. Yeah I think I would consider him we talked to a Cam Newton before and we were talking about him in in the sense of, Hey, this is a good backup quarterback this year well Chris, Prince is going with him as starting quarterback this year I guess I can't ask you this yet to see if this is a strategy you would employ because we'll have to see who else he gets at quarterback, but right now cam, Newton I know always, it's New England is a former MVP. There's just something that doesn't feel right about him being my starter this year. Yeah I know what you're saying I mean you much there's QUARTERBACK is super deep. And you know you can you. There's so many ways to play and get and get quarterbacks. I. Mean those top six guys I think. You middle like Dak Prescott Russell Wilson Color and Shawn Watson or pre reasonably priced. They really are right and even like the next tier below them, you can wait we. Wait until. Around get Brady or the late eleven get Josh Allen I think that you can really attack it that way and then I think sometimes waiting. Another round or two in getting a guy like Cam Newton as your starter turns out to be not the best way doing feel like quarterbacks fell in the draft relative to the other five. Joe's draft everyone is different it's it's crazy. I know everybody always says that but it really is true. Let's move onto the thirteenth round here. Jerry Judy goes off the board Brian Peculiar. At the thirteen one that kicks off a little mini wide receiver run. Sammy. Watkins to Chris Prince John Brown to Todd. Hopkins, and then Robbie Anderson to Michael Nazar as he goes with the current jets receiver in the tenth and the former jets receiver you're in the thirteenth Eric Lebron's backing up Tyler Higby for James Boris here at the thirteen five the Sean Jackson. The number five wide receiver selected by Darren Armani, Peter saint-pierre, and Steve as go back to back with quarterbacks. Here they get drew brees is their number two and then Joe Borough as their number three in the thirteenth and Aqeel Harry off the board to Mike Beers after that and kill Harry is the number five receiver drafted by the former twenty seventeen PJ. Overall Champ tight ends here OJ Howard is the number three or Schuyler Gerald Everett is the number three Howard benders Paris Campbell off the board Brian to mellow and then drew lock the final pick of the thirteenth round drew lock Dave. We'll be starting for jeff man now I I was uncomfortable with Cam Newton is not one I am highly on I feel like I should be sitting one of those hemorrhoids pillows for having drew lock as my starting quarterback here, and he won't have the now he already made his fourteenth round pillows. He won't have the opportunity to draft another quarterback until round fifteen this could get a little heroin a little nail biting, but I guess he's already throwing caution to the wind with all those rookies. It's. Still. Exactly or Herbert's hurt her or. The to Herbert? Yeah. Certainly a possible. Where did I? I I don't know where I saw this somewhere on twitter, but the ultimate Aaron Rodgers move would be opting out this year like just opting out of the season. And then you want so that so Ezekiel Elliott, the total Aaron was like the classic Aaron Rodgers Move to like up the packers. Yeah I'm not gonNA play this season and then have you want your. Yeah. Just here you go. You go off. Serving Yeah. Yeah, exactly. funny stuff. They're paired rogers great relatively speaking. Paris. Campbell. You probably. Treat people like Ellen. Yeah well. That's that's another whole story. Yeah anyway really bizarre Paris Campbell they've for the Indianapolis Colts. Obviously ty Hilton's there. You have Michael Pittman there who's a rookie we underrating Paris Campbell because we don't talk about a whole lot on the show because well, quite frankly hasn't done much in the league so far, and then the colts invested a second round pick Michael Pittman? That is an interesting question because. I didn't like Campbell coming into the NFL last year and I still don't really care from much having said that and then you have pittman to deal with WHO's a different seems like a different type of player really isn't he? I mean yeah. You know not a speed guys more be a bigger guy I don't know I. Think I'd still be looking somewhere also taking Campbell So I don't know I'm still not that optimistic I feel like you should on more as a rookie for me to really get behind not necessarily WANNA. Bring up where they went to night I wanNA bring up their ADP's Tyler higby at the six Oh nine Davis tight end seven Gerald Everett is real life teammates tight end twenty, eight at fourteen, O six I liked the value forever it a lot better. Yeah I. DO I think that makes a lot of sense and never was producing really well, and so you got injured last year and Why not take a shot in the teams have been talking about the coaching Sassen talking among yeah I like Everett and Howard Bender gets them as as number three tight in. That's the Gr- The really great thing about ever this year is you could get him as your number three. You don't even have to draft them as your backup. It's just tremendous value. So Nice little luxury. Moving onto the fourteenth round, Allen Lazard fourteen o one to Jeff Man's kind of we're scared somebody needs to tell man's that lazard is is not a rookie So goes off the board at the fourteen on one Ryan Tanna Hill is the second selection in the fourteenth round tonight Ryan Tannehill backing up the quarterback that Brian to mellow took in the twelfth round. That's Ben Rothlisberger, and he now has two quarterbacks going forward. Bershad paramount to Howard, bender. Followed by brandon is a guy that Dave and I have talked about liking this season Schuyler takes him here at the fourteen four have Dawson. Knox is the third tight end off the board to Mike Beers Dawson. Another guy actually that David and I like and another guy that's awesome that you can get him as your number three tight end. You don't have to invest in Dawson Knox as your backup tight end unless you really wait long at the position just in Jefferson. To Saint, Pierre and Ashi followed by Joshua. Kelly, the number six running back chosen by Armani. You Got Jared Goff as the number three quarterback for James Boris here. Boris gets him at the fourteen O eight to Tunga by Lois night from Jeff at the end of the draft to a ton of law is the number three quarterback drafted by Michael Nazareth. Then get the chiefs One of the chiefs backup running backs, Darwin Thompson a darling in fantasy leagues last year Todd Hopkins snares him here with the third last pick of the fourteenth round you have Gardner Minhsiu who apparently Scares the corona virus right out of covid nineteen gardner men's shoes going at the fourteen eleven tonight and then Barrington Evans we think is going to be the backup running back in Tennessee Barrington Evans the final pick of the fourteenth round here this evening touchdown it before with the jets receivers here you have jamison crowder going in the tent shot pyramid goes in the fourteenth and we always talk about draft value and you know what's the better value? Who would you rather have and normally I I say, well, I'm rather gonNA go with the the guy who goes later. woodenness case I think I do even though crowder is going I among jets receivers and I'm GonNa include the the rookie in this as well. I think crowder represents the better value here's shod paramount for the last two years they've has made a career made his contract in the last month of the season but the for the first three months isn't really do that much. He's he's not a very exciting player, but he comes on at the end people remember that then he gets paid and that's what. He lasted that's the last two years what he's done and it's worked out for him. That's his O that is them all for sure You have little bit of a shot of being one of those late developing players because he yes kid kinda come around I with you though I prefer crowder unit, the elevated priced I'm GonNa go out to the six one oh Go to the phone lines right now you are on the air with a Dave and bulky on the ats are whom are we speaking with? This is Jim Boris I'm actually in the draft right now. Right, what's up the F. FCC Joe Jim Boris drafting in the five spot? How do you like your team so far Jim? Well just picked up on renfrew With this last pick you know every drafts different. You've just got to adapt my friend You know it's Nothing. Ever goes to plan I usually. Am Wide Receiver heavy early in this draft didn't didn't bode well for that for me. So I always try and get the best player available when possible. But yeah it's fair. I have a fair team I I'm I'm not over excited and I'm not disappointed. I dunno, you tell me what you think. Well. Let let me ask you this. Just curiously when you knew you're going to have the five pick I think the top four picks where pretty you know not run of the mill but pretty much what you'd expect to see here did you make up your mind that you're GonNa go with Michael Thomas at the one zero five before the draft started. Absolutely. So that for me, that was a no brainer anywhere. I. I might have even taken five to be honest with you I. I'm always always want to buster top top three, and then he position So if I can get that best receiver football take that all day long. When you talk about how your draft strategy changed, you normally are wide receiver heavy. You end up taking a quarterback in the second followed by a couple of running backs after that the what did the rest of the board sort of dictate that like when you see all these running backs flying off the board? Did you feel like I should probably get a couple of rushers here on my squad before it's too late? I needed to get one in. You know I needed to get four out there I was happy to get Johnson the you know a couple of rounds. Later, that round of the the next round of those only one after that Me Take him a homes in the second I never take quarterbacks early, but you know what? being this best ball being the you know again mahomes the best quarterback in the game So I I wanted to wanted to take advantage of that I didn't WanNa get into a situation where a couple guys got into where they got caught with. They got caught naked without quarterbacks you know late You know and that's that's that's a big boo boo you can't get caught without a quarterback and then I was looking at breeze I was looking at breeze as my backup and he got taken to pick before me but. Can I really complain if I get Rogers as my backup in the twelfth or whatever it was. Yeah exactly. You know actually. I mean I mean the okay I didn't get breezed. I got rodgers well. So so Jim. Outside, of Michael Thomas did you have a favorite pick a favorite selection of yours tonight when when the when you know you're on the clock and you're like, yes, this guy made it to me I'm so happy I can make this pick here. Did you have any of those moments tonight? I like the shepherd pick I I was looking at Shepherd You know as a fourth receiver, not too bad best value there i. also I also like the the the. It's silly. I think you win you win when Leagues Late Not in the first three rounds but like rounds seven to fifteen and the Murray pick I like plus it blocked the guy next to me so that he didn't have a backup. You know. So he didn't he didn't have the the handcuffed more to Alvin Kamara. So. So it Kinda. It helped me for depth and it hurts you know her the guy next to me. You know not not to be mean but it's right. Yeah it is. That's listen you approach to cares about them improve your team and and make sure the other teams cannot improve. There's we talked throughout pros vs joes, Jim about the the colts Backfield, and the lines backfield, your snared a couple of pieces from both of those teams tonight with Marlin, Mac, and Kerryon Johnson back to back in the seventh and eighth rounds. How do you view those splits this year I mean, do you view them closer to fifty fifty than some other teams or was this just basically trying to get a piece of that backfield in case something were to happen to Taylor? Swift. I like the guys I got rookies are GonNa, not play a big part this year covid covert and lack of practice and lack of reps and I think I think the rookies are going to be eased in because we nobody has any idea how they can pick up blitzes. Nobody has any idea if they know the playbook because reading it and knowing the classroom a totally different than actually executing on the field. So Mac for sure and I, and I trust me I love Jonathan Taylor. Taylor love them love them to death but not not this year I think he's GonNa I think he's GonNa get Curry's don't get me wrong but I think Mac and Johnson Kerryon Johnson are GonNa they're gonNA have probably a sixty forty, sixty, five, thirty, five, split. But if it's a short season. We don't because we don't know we don't know if it's GonNa go Games Twelve Games sixteen games I'm banking on everything I'm I my strategy was the bank on a short season just in case, and if it's a short season, I don't want the guys that have the thirty five percent that are going to dominate the second half of the year I want who's dominating the first half of the year. I can still still be a factor in the second half of the year. Jim Tell us who you're taking here in the sixteenth round. I have no idea but talking to you guys. Let's see Oh Shit I. Oh sorry. Sorry about that All right. Let's take a look at oh my goodness. Glad, you guys are awake you know what it's for. But. Let's go with You know what? Let's go with Dede Westbrook. Dede Westbrook from Jacksonville. This is a balanced team that that that you have so far and I think you add to that wide receiver depth here? With westbrook especially if Jacksonville is passing it a little bit more than you know there's such a heavy. Last year, right? Exactly. Yeah. You be behind. Go ahead I'm sorry. You'RE GONNA. Have mentioned year or two you don't you know which is going to be better. I think they're going to be trailing a lot and you know kind of kind of the the one thing about four net to is i. you know there's a good chance that. come come trade deadline. He might be tossed and might be a number one somewhere else. So that was kind of another thing because. And and listen to somebody touches last year out of the Backfield So you know four, nine, four, nine while he's there I, like him and and the fact that their trail and you know he gets some keep dump off, passes and then deep you know D-. Do to break out anyway. Yeah. It was a guy that was always a heisman trophy finalist put up some pretty big numbers and Oklahoma Jim Boris is put up pretty big numbers in the FCC putting up a good score offer his team at least by my standards night, we'll get into that later on in the program Jim I'm GonNa let you get back to the draft. Thanks so much for chiming with us. Tonight. Good luck the rest of the way and good luck in the main event this year man. Guys thanks for the thanks for the kind words and thanks for your time. Jim Boris Ladies Gentlemen The F.. FCC. Joe Drafting tonight out of the five spot. Want to catch everybody up we. We told you what happened in the fourteenth round. Here's what took place in the fifteenth round in another semi quarterback around here Jimmy Garoppolo leading things off to Brian Cooler here followed by Damian Harris right after that they mean Harris you goes goes to Chris Prints excuse me the Andrei Washington So you have Todd Hopkins going back to back chiefs backups here that's interesting and the Fourteenth Fifteenth Gets Darwin Thompson in the Andre Washington, you know Smith speaking of backups. Is The fifteen or four to Michael Nasdaq hundred renfro and then Teddy Bridgewater to Boris and then Armani their money takes bridgewater as his backup to Dak. He's the deck up as it were Carlos Hyde the jokes are terrible, but it's night six. This is what's going to happen people Carlos Hyde funnier than the other Carlos on the board, the Peterson Pierre and Steve Ashi right after that followed by Nikki behind high inflict that value there in the fifteenth round team Hines To, Mike Beers you have kirk cousins as the backup quarterback to Kyle Murray That's for Sky Islands there you have Randall cobb going off the board the Houston Texans receiver to Howard Bender Brian to Manalo then takes Greg Olsen and it's his number three tight end Philip rivers backing up a guru Li chap man's drew lock at his starting quarterback position. So you get the young and then you get the old day if you get the big arm and then the. Popcorn essentially with. But there is something to be said for that at least to get the the veterans stability there when you wait on quarterback that long I? Mean at least you should be getting some. Production their. Job or anything like that no. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, he is after the season, but he should be good to go twenty twenty match. For, certain Tyler I for then is his number two tight end see now this is something I would not do I know he has George he picked him in the first round they have I can't condone waiting into the sixteenth round to pick a second in especially when it's being Tyler paper I I it's Not, not. Good. Who Do to do that? Yeah I. GotTa Concur of Sam. darnold is the third quarterback selected by Brian to mellow here at the sixteen to you get a couple of running backs here, Jerick McKinnon and then Anthony McFarland to bender and then Eyler scold and tate off the boards Mike Beers couple of rookie tight ends. Then coal commit off the board the bears tight end followed by Devin Assisi to That's during our money. I believe they're taking him. Yes. Yeah. During our money takes CFC call come at once you saint-pierre and Ashi. Dede Westbrook you've heard that pick live on the air by Jim Boris you have Sean McCoy another buccaneers running back Leshan gumming up the works McCoy as he goes at the sixteen zero nine tonight to Michael Maverick. Derek Carr third quarterback selected by team three Todd, Hopkins Yep, Corey Davis, going off the board Oh. How the mighty have fallen Corey Davis in the sixteenth round tonight to Chris Prints and then Justin Jackson the Maybe backup running back for the chargers we're not really sure. GonNa, fall in yet but Justin Jackson goes with the final pick of the sixteenth round here Dave. And as we look at value and past two rounds, I like the Damian. Harris. Pick what do you make of the Darwin Thompson? de'andre. Washington. Stack Todd Hopkins did in the fourteenth and fifteenth I think that's a good way to spend those two picks. Oh, you personally I was just go with John. Jay. Washington leave Thompson alone but I don't think it's bad i. mean if that's what he wants to a shot and it makes a Lotta sense, all you really betting is that Edwards layer is is somewhat of a either injured or a bust in both both both are totally possible. So I think that that that's a nice way to go do you so what just curiously you don't you think Dr Thompson is the clear number three there. Then if you're just taking Washington, if you're GONNA, do it my opinion is that the Andre Washington wins the number two job over Darwin Thompson Yeah Okay all right, fair enough speaking of other value. In in the fifteenth and Sixteenth I like the hundred Renfro pick I think that made sense for for Jim Boris there a Carlos Hyde I mean say what? You will about him to get him in the fifteenth round behind the Oft Injured Chris Carson I think there's a Lotta outside there and I think that that's a guy that moves updraft boards as we get closer. To Vegas and main event really picking up steam in the he m hines obviously were of one mind on that and Randall Cobb you know. Say what you will about him say what you will what what he's done since he's left Aaron Rodgers and the packers but this dude catches back passes and there's a lot of them that just got vacated in that Houston, Texans offenses very true I mean he touched on. Pretty well, what do you make Greg Olsen and Seattle this year. And he he he had the foot issues last year he did all right when he was healthy, he's GonNa. He's contending with Disley for snaps, and obviously you got metcalf unlock it outside Going like a you know the top thirty, top thirty, two tight end though right now is basically free. I wouldn't say free but I would say he's the last tight end I could stomach how about. A more glowing endorsement you could not get Greg Olsen, because then you're looking at all your and then like the rookies Me I guess enjoy who I guess there's something to be like look at Joe who. and then use them on tactically starts. So and Darren fellows technically starts to feel like the Aussie Aussie and coca metrics I just feel like the system. The odds of those guys hitting as rookies where they ever start for you in a single game is so is so small, right? Yeah. So I just don't I just don't see that So the other thing I'll bring up here Dave. Tight. Ends I know you like better that typically go after Greg Olsen they did not tonight's draft but Dawson Knox and Gerald are both being selected? Are They GonNa do it all right. Well I mean they're they're right around that same spot in the mid fourteenth but I know you like those guys. Okay. was there any other value wanted to talk about? In, the sixteenth thrown hopeless wrap it up. Okay. Okay. Move onto the seventeenth then you can do with your team evaluations before it's done you know you WanNa do that. Now we can do that. Now let me change evenings around is gonNA. Make a difference. That's a good point. All right. So kicking things off to some people have to wake up in the morning. To wake up to. Viewers Oh, listen. I. Can't tell I. Didn't know if your sub touting yourself or not Brian for Kula I don't know how to do that I just. Kicking things up quarterback. That's very funny. Lamar Jackson Jimmy. Garoppolo are the quarterbacks Christian McCaffrey Ronald Jones Keyshawn Vaughn Antonio Gibson Barrington Evans Justin Jackson at running back Chris Godwin Portland Sutton brandin cooks Christian Kirk Henry Rugs Jerry Judy at receiver there in Waller Austin. Hooper and David, and joke who at Titan very well, balanced team two team I could get on board with is GONNA. Need that buccaneers running back tandem to come through because besides that, he's got some question marks and Christian McCaffrey which honestly covers up a lot of awards. Yup any of those flyer running backs pan out. Good shape. Value on the the Chris Katelyn pick I mean God one at the end of the first one of these drafts right taking them are Jackson that happened yesterday to McCaffrey Mark Jackson. So, many points if they produce they last year waller hooper good I mean real tight on. I like this team overall, but I mean there's some risk risk at Arby's too. But I get it. I get that. That's why he went that way wrote Grinders Chris was in the second spot tonight. Here's what he did with Cam Newton and Gardner minhsiu at quarterback saquon Barkley Todd Gurley jk Dobbins Tevin Coleman Damien Harrison Adrian Peterson at running back the receivers Robert Woods Tyler, Lockett deebo Samuel Anthony Miller Sammy Watkins, and Corey Davis Tight Ends Mark Andrews. Rob Gronkowski. TJ Hopkinson really, good Titan entry they've I think the running backs or there's some good upside there the question is Can you get a third quarterback All of any kind of ilk, and then the receivers, I guess. I'm a little nervous that deebo Samuel is my number three and then you have Sammy. Watkins as as the five in court Davis says the six. So there's some question marks there. Your receivers kind of where I'm concerned when you have Andrews in Gronk and Hopkinson, though I mean it does that that's that's why right But yeah. I I would need to have more receivers on my team that that's the way I would probably go. I thought the. Thought that was pretty solid to in. Yeah considering we're Ingram went for sure Todd Hopkins Tom Brady Baker Mayfield and Derek Carr a quarterback Ezekiel Elliott Aaron Jones remastered most excuse me Devon single -tary Tony Polar Darwin Thompson Deandra washing at running back Mike Evans. devante Parker and John Brown at. Receiver. Johnny Smith Jack Doyle Will Tight end Dave I'm not a fan of will disley Smith and doyle might not be the greatest Combo for being top two tight ends. Running backs are really good. quarterbacks are really good receivers really lacking here though I guess my that's my issue to only have four of them were John Brown's your four and not something I can get on board with with. Yeah I maybe just a little bit little bit too many. Running back. So Emily after you have. You know with. Elliot Jones most in a single terry getting really nice value in the seventy could've possibly even left running back alone and then you have to tie up two spots in the Kansas City second and third stringers. He could grass Morrissey Reserve. That's probably what I would have done. Fantasy football masterminds. Michael Nasdaq was the pro and the forest body. He Gets Matt Ryan Daniel Jones to tongue by lower at quarterback Alvin Kamara Levian. Philip Lindsay. Johnson Edo Smith and the Shawn McCoy running back receivers Julio Jones came calf Jarvis Landry Jamison crowder. Robbie. Anderson tight ends are Zach Ertz Jared Cook, and Darren fells another pretty well balanced team. He took some stabs at running back late which I think he needed to do the the receivers I think are salad. This is a team that I think is well balanced all the way around it's not a team that really excites me as a potential contender even though I think it might be. I think, yeah, I think he a good shot to contend that I can't really find a lot of faults of the next right. I like a lot of the players. He picked him when he took them where where he took him. I. Do actually I think I like this team a little more than you. Jim Boris in the five spot. Tonight we talked to him earlier. I told them. We give evaluation. Here's where it is. Awesome. Thanks. Yeah. Exactly and that's it moving out there ready patrick mahomes and Aaron Rodgers along with Jared Goff as his quarterbacks running backs are Leonard Fournette David Johnson Marlin, Matt Kerryon Johnson latavius Murray and Benny Snell receivers Michael Thomas Kean Allen Julian elements, sterling Shepard Hunter Renfro Dede Westbrook. Tight ends Tyler Higby Eric Brown and CJ US I like this team I was gonna tell him to when he was on the clock I could probably use another tight here. He doesn't take it while he's on the phone with us but the very next pick I take cj us who is a starter and I think that brings the team together nicely again, another well-balanced team here that that could do some damage. Yeah I. Think I think he did pretty well I mean if heavy if the half the twitter people like if he's running, right? Yeah he's me in good shape I like the way his team now cornet and David Johnson really the it's your number one and number two running backs love Mahomes and Michael. Thomas, So yeah, he's turned out really well, and the you know the picks Ataman icepick run pros a good pick. So. Yeah. He didn't really well the PJ godfather during Armani from fantasy mo Jo was in the six spot tonight Dak Prescott, Teddy Bridgewater, and Dwayne Haskins at quarterback running backs are Dalvin. Cook Austin. Dairy guys Boston's and Scott Chase Edmunds. Joshua. Kelly receivers Dj more Amari Cooper Terry maclaurin Michael Gallup the Sean Jackson and Josh Reynolds Tight ends are Blake Darwin Chris Herndon. Masisi and therein lies my question mark here for this team Darwin needs to to be competent. I, if Chris Herndon does what he's capable of doing I think you'll be all right. There I have low expectations are Debonair Siasi your one. But again, another well-balanced team I think he did good at the key positions of running back and receiver. You have concerns that's high down, and then also I'm not a big guy span. So then the number three running back although I like Boston Scott Adams, Kelly, those all made a lot of sense. WHO's The star in Washington a guys. Talking. I wasn't doing that Detroit. I was just that was a legit question I didn't know. Who else would it be? Adrian Peterson Yeah I just. Yeah. Okay. So moving onto Peter saint-pierre and Steve Ashi here you have Carson Wentz drew brees and Joe Berwick quarterback the running backs are Joe Mixing Josh Jacobs Chris Carson Brita and Carlos Hyde receivers Calvin Ridley T. Y. Hilton Tyler Boyd Emmanuel Sanders Justin Jefferson an alcyone. Jeffrey. At receiver then you have no offense j Sternberg or coal combat and Kyle Rudolph at tight end the the running backs are obviously awesome I like the fact that he got hide They got Hyde to go with Carson receivers. Needed one more here. Manual Sanders is your four is fine but Jackson Jefferson is a rookie you're five and Alshon Jeffery who is you know I can't expect literally anything for that guy and then I think there's a lot of potential tight end day but there's a lot of question marks there with all that youth. Yeah I. Agree with you on the try to spot I mean I know you like Sternberg but it's like with fans and sterner, and is really me your team. That's that's a problem for me. A little bit I think taking Joe is a little bit of luxury pick. They taken a receiver in that spot then grabs some crappier side or crappier quarterback waiter, and then I don't get the pick ups to music like kind of away. Spun me. You know I guess technically you could come back. Yeah well I mean he's GonNa try. Won't be from lack of trying. Okay. Moving onto the twenty seventeen p bj Champ Mike Beers from Rodeo Biz. Dot Com Russell Wilson and Matthew Stafford at quarterback running back quite Edwards. Allaire Kenyan Drake Melvin Gordon to Rico on the hime hinds receivers Kenny golladay Stefan digs will fuller Marvin Jones Keel Harry Golden. Tate Lewis Casino, and John Ross tight ends are Evan Ingram Ian Thomas and Dawson knocks. Team and the reason for you know that that that I'm saying I like it, a lot is grant. He only drafted five running backs but look at the back end pass Catcher Cohen Pass Catcher Heintz and then you look at he I think he kinda new look my receivers aren't the greatest in the world. So he dedicates four of his final picks to the receiver position and I thought he got a lot of upside with Ingram. Thomas knocks at tight end. Part of the reason, he was able to do that. Only two quarterbacks which I think is all you need when you have Wilson and Stafford you know I can't really add much to your comments although you know maybe I'm not as big a fan of Gordon. As maybe you are but yeah. Team turned out really well, even even with God being settled as will fuller. Now that's the other thing too like if I drafted will fuller Mike I gotTA draft receiver at every every pick from here, and we'll for a of could be could be great. Great. We've seen a lot of smart people in PJ this your draft for sure. All right. So moving on here to Sky L. is the former pros vs Joes. League champ, you have tyler murray and kirk cousins as his two quarterbacks, Derrick Henry. Mile. Sanders Jonathan Taylor James White Anthony McFarland and devante Freeman at running back AJ Brown Dj Shark Markey's brown CD Lamb Preston Williams Brandon I larry Gerald at Receiver Mike just sickie Herbs Smith and OJ Howard At tight end So this is another kind of well him as far as team construction goes, but nobody's in danger of getting their AARP card among the receivers day. There is a ton of inexperienced there when you look past well, not even when you look past Brown in charge I mean you can make the case that they're good but they're also very young and then you get markey's Brown in second year land the rookie pressed Williams who is technically in a second year but really didn't play a full season last year I the rookie, and then of course, the Mr Long in the tooth, the grizzled better in or the bunch everybody. Gerald there's the are he's the only one. Yeah I. It's a very young receiver core I thought the value on Mile Sanders is really nice. Yeah. Around absolutely really talk much about that. That was really nice pick. Even you I've been kind of semi down from from Murky Brown. If he stays healthy, you know he does a lot of explosive weeks. I like receivers Kinda turned out especially with the later guys. I think I'm a little higher you know. You know pressing Williams we talked what we like them and then Brandon I I think in the fourteenth worked well for them a tight end we'll see how that turns out I I. I'm a little bit as big a huge Irv Smith Fan as a lot of the fancy pundits rights, but I don't know what about an Interim Howard Vendor from fantasy alarm was picking in the ten spot tonight he went with the Shawn Watson and Josh. Allen as quarterbacks running backs are Nick Chubb James Connor, Jordan Howard Sony Michelle Jerick McKinnon, and Lynn Boden. Then you have at where I'd Receiver De'andre Hopkins Alan Robinson Daria Slayton Curtis Samuel Rashad Pyramid Randall Cobb and Stevenson's tight ends are Hunter Henry hate and hearst and Gerald. Ever Dave I love the tight ends and quarterbacks not so much the running backs two receivers It's the took a lot of players that I will not be taking on my teams this year. Yeah I agree with you there and I think that he you know taking trouble early and Hopkins a little bit technically early I mean that's fine. Yeah. There's a lot of the running backs and receivers guys that I just not not huge fan. So I think that's those impact my evaluation as well. Yeah. Not Not Howard Guy Not a Michelle Guy. Slayton is your number three. Curtis Samuel. And I do like the Randall Cobb pick late and that Steven Sims selection could work out as well. moving on to Brian Melo here in the eleven spot, he went with Ben Rothlisberger Ryan Tannehill and Sam Darnold quarterback running back. David Montgomery Kareem Hunt Alexander Madison Aj. Dylan and Reich well armstead receivers are tyreek Hill Juju, Smith Schuster Adam feeling deontay Johnson Nicole Hartman. Paris. Campbell and Jalen Hurd Titans Travis Kelsey in Dallas along with Gregg Olsen he was the last team i. Believe to take a running back. Dave and Kinda shows as as I'm not a huge fan of the stable. The first two were fine Madison as your three edgy four. That's really not good and then he he obviously got the Pittsburgh Stack at receiver but this team will go as far as the running backs can carry them and unfortunately He doesn't have a lot of them and he waited until the fourth round to take his first one fifth round. Excuse me. Yeah I worked around. Sorry. Agree with what you're saying about the running back they both the to shop guys need to stay healthy Andy Productive. and. So I just don't see it. You know I don't I don't see that that's going to be, and then during by week season have issues great job waiting quarterback O'Brien. Love it man after my own heart final team, we're going to evaluate for the entire pros vs joes competition. It's Jeff Man's from grew elite here and he ends up with drew lock. And Philip rivers at quarterback running backs are camakers de Andrea Swift Mark Ingram Zach Moss, Darryl Henderson and Chris Tomson receivers. Davante. Adams Odell Beckham Aj Green. Mike Williams. Jalen. Reagan Michael Pittman and Lazar Titans are George biddle Tyler. I for end Jimmy Graham very top heavy at tight end I think you waited too long to grab his second one I. I. The Combo of lock and rivers does not really give me any kind of of trust that that they're going to be able to pull this off weekend and we go and just a lot of youth on this team. I mean I get Adams Beckham and green is your top three receivers. That's cool. But you're counting on rig or you're counting pittman acres swift Zach. Moss. On this team. Let's just too many rookies Dave too many rookies. That's that's like, Tobin? Agreement with that. 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2020 FFPC Pros Vs. Joes Fatboy Slim League #4

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2020 FFPC Pros Vs. Joes Fatboy Slim League #4

"How High Will Clyde, Edwards Largo, what will an NFC north receiver get his value pumped up and how can the JOE's keep up with such a talented pros field follow along with the live draft board tonight and listen to our analysis as we call the action from the twenty twenty F- f- pc pros vs Joes, fat boy slim league number four to see who will win eight twenty, twenty, one F., FCC main event team. We've got a great show for you. Dave Grzelak is here I'm Eric. Bachmann stick around your high stakes fantasy football our starts now in. Own. Wrong. Reno. And Radio. Broadcast live and heard around the world. You are now listening to the most entertaining our radio on the planet you'd be high stakes fantasy football I presented by F F P Dot Com with your hosts Eric, ball men and Dave. The high stakes fantasy football hour is your home for football analysis from the best fantasy players in the world, and now because no one else was available, your are Eric bolling and Dave. Brandon. Stomach talk me. Copy. From. A lot right greetings and salutations all the bulk Hollick's zaken addicts tuning in around the world. Welcome to the latest episode of the High Stakes Fantasy football over presented by my F- PC DOT COM I. am your slightly above average host Eric Balkan my co host is indeed the patron saint of fantasy football the diesel Dave Grohl Zach. Tonight we have the fourth of six special episodes for you. It's the pros vs joes, FCC fat boy, Slim League number four draught, and we'll be covering it for the entire duration of of the draft a follow the draft board at Youtube Dot com slash high stakes fantasy football wanNA give a shout out to everybody in the chat room right now you can post your questions you might have in there if you want to connect with us on. Twitter The show is at HSF our I at Eric Bachmann. Dave is at David Grzelak facebook, dot com slash. HSF hours to reach us there, and of course, three, four, seven, four to six, thirty, six, eighty, two, three, four, seven, Game Oba if you want to get in touch with us and talk with us tonight you certainly can there you know. So email the show at the. INBOX high stakes fantasy football at gmail.com, if you have any questions for us, now is the time to send them our producer and mutual friend Robert Audio engineer my best friend Brice will do their best to get those messages to us throughout the program. Tonight, we have a star studded lineup as always the pros vs Joes action. Tonight leading things off is an F. F. FCC, Joe. It is Robert Robbie Russell the father and son team dropping out of the one spot. wrote, ballers Josh Hayes is picking second a thirteen time F- F- PC dynasty and redraft Paul Smith is in the third spot behind him. Longtime pros vs joes drafter established the runs Evans Silva former guest of the show frank laprud drafting on his birthday tonight by the way three time f? F PC and football guys league champ picking out of the five whole John Polson from four for four in the sixth spot F. FCC Best Ball Champ Todd Patrick, is in the seven along with fake Pigskins, Shane Hallam in the eight spot nine time F., FCC and football guys League Champ Matt. Growth Picking Night Jeremy Brown who have one the pros vs his pros Ursus Joe's league last year I think he was the runner up to Roach and Mueller last if I remember correctly, he's picking ten tonight Chandler Indulge Suprema and the former F. P. Champs and real life brothers picking eleven and rounding things off tonight is Peter overset from four for four dot com and Dave Fireworks Right Outta the gate tonight at the one. Oh, one we knew that this was a possibility going forward when we got the Damian Williams News, the highest he had gone since the Damian Williams news in any F. FCC SPA slim was the one on three Robert and Robbie Russell make him the one on one tonight Clyde Edwards Layer. This is not something you would do. I'm guessing button a contest where you're trying to beat out eleven, other teams and you get nothing for second place you can make the argument I cannot make the argument. I would have to take McCaffrey so but it's fun man it's it's free for them. You know they're players. So why not give it a shot? How some fun we had the F. FCC early drafts, flat announcement come out a couple of hours ago, and if I remember correctly, those guys do not have a number one spot in the F. FCC main event making Hay while the sun shines with one pick tonight getting maybe they'll take Edwards Allaire and that in their main event to it remains to be seen as their if he's there Christian McCaffrey goes to Josh as from row baller at number two Paul deeds men then take saquon Barkley Ezekiel Elliott to. Evan Sylvan Alvin Kamara to frank lapatin. SORTA just pushed everybody down one spot because SORTA chalk with the first five or six through five. I should say Travis Kelsey to John Paulson after that is the first tight end off the board I receiver is Michael Thomas at the one Oh, seven seems a little wonder. We're his ADP normally maybe it is right there. Yeah, one. Oh, six, and then when you factor in the Edwards Larry I guess that makes sense but one. Oh seven. Shane Hal and takes George Kittle at the one Oh wait followed by Dalvand Cook to Matt Growth Derrick, Henry at the one ten Jeremy Browne Mile. Standards to the supreme as as he goes at one eleven rounding things off in the first round here. Davante Adams to Peter overs at the one twelve Dave, is it just me or does does the addition of Edward Solaire here at the one on one? Just really make this look like a strong. Strong first round doesn't just make like Alvin Cook all the way down there at at at one zero, nine you up Derrick Henry dropping to one ten miles. Sanders. Won Eleven. It just looks from top to bottom like a lot. Now, some of these guys will bust it just looks like a strong round. Yeah, I mean you could you know with Damien Williams offering you could make the case that you're on nine through twelve picks actually get a lot better you know. So he's got to mature asphalt saying you know number one two or three or whatever you're kind of rooting for. Probably a lot you know late latex. Ever Solaire, entering the first round he really does like shark trump the first round overall. Yeah Derrick. Henry slipped a few picks tonight but nothing too crazy as they look at you know how the top twelve has been as according to ADP for the F. FCC best balls in which by the way give a shout out to Darren Armani at fantasy mode you're on twitter if you are playing in the F. FCC and have not checked out fantasy Mojo. Dot Com, you're doing it wrong. As the kids say make sure you are tapping into all the draft boards all the ADP they're at fantasy MOJO DOT com shout out to him. He helps put together the pros vs joes contest each and every year as well. There was one name that did not go in the first round that was somewhat surprising to me maybe not and we'll get to that here as we continue our analysis. Of Round two overs. That is the only team to start off receiver receiver tonight and she takes Chris God when at the two one Kenyan drake to the supreme is at two Oh two tyreek hill off the board at two Oh three to Jeremy Browne. He goes running back receiver to start as did few other teams here tyree kill to Jeremy Brown at the two Oh three Joe, mixing, the board after that to to Matt Growth. That's the player I wanted to talk about Dave he nor macaroni by way just getting gifted stuff lesson right so far in this draft. Galvin Cook the one I wonder if there probably won't be another cook mix and starting pros vs joes. I, mean. I. Guess. It could happen tomorrow or Tuesday, but high highly unlikely. We have not seen that happen yet. So congratulations the Matt growth they're cooked and mixing is how he starts off Shane. How gets Josh Jacobs in the second round at the two five followed by nick to Todd Pavlik to go with his Michael Thomas Pick in the first round Austin. John, Paulson, he goes tight end running back to start Julio Jones to Frank Pratt. That's a nice little value there Aaron Jones after that back to back Jones's the ladder going to Evans Silva followed by a pair of. players that were traded for each other in the offseason you had the Andre Hopkins going from Houston to Arizona. He's the Paul Demon here at the to ten David Johnson goes from Arizona to Houston and he goes the Josh Hayes at the to eleven followed by Zach Ertz at the to twelve. The. Third Tight End off the board. Tonight is somebody that we haven't seen go as the third tight end off aboard previously in the pros vs Joes. Zach Ertz, the final pick of at the to twelve tonight Henry Muto wants to know if Pete over that is using his randomize wheel picking from the from the twelfth spot tonight that doesn't seem to random Adams and Godwin makes sense there. No I'm guessing he wants to go he wants to go back to those your arm yourself, and that's that's kind of where he was at and I'm got to. What do you make of a best like a zero r? B You know slim format where it's not a managed league is that see you've never i? Don't think you've ever really done too many zero. B. Teams normally managed leagues my correct in saying that or am I wrong. Not a true. Not True. You're right. You know there's all these people who call modify, which really means it's not. You know so no, not not really I mean I've heard a few times but you know here and there in Kentucky Yeah I haven't Manage Leagues Right you've never done it in the best ball right? no. So so rare that I play basketball because you know in fact, we're getting rid of the draft masters they come. Sorry you know if I'll have any best ball these. From a from a strategic standpoint. Yeah is is you don't really see it as much in slim and classic best balls I. Don't feel like you call it a classic basketball because it was classic as about tie national. basketballs. You don't because people pound views. So it really got to be challenging if you take even four outstanding receivers and you're gonNA. Get four really really good receivers or five or four and a tight end or whatever. Then you really have to hit on those running backs in associating in like in a marriage leave maybe taking running backs thirty to forty or forty to fifty. You're taking running backs fifty to sixty and sixty seventy you know. So it gets to be a lot tougher. Dave Errand Jones tied for the League lead in rushing touchdowns with one Christian. McCaffrey. This year Christian. McCaffrey I would say is the is is the consensus WanNa one, but he's only the consensus. WanNa one. If you don't lump Robert and Robbie Russell into the consensus and I think you have to but McCaffrey basically goes one on one or one or two. Why is there and Jones going? So late when the packers did nothing upgrade the receivers, they lose Devin funchess you know Aaron Jones is going to be at the forefront of them moving the ball why are people and and drafters letting him slip now he tonight, he goes at the two Oh nine to Evans. Silva on average in this format he normally goes to oh seven or is it just people just expecting a huge touchdown regression or what is it? I think a huge touch regression is what they think. He's a non-pedigree back. They brought an AJ dill and it's a new know. New Management teams so that you know so. I and they don't WanNa pay him long term. So maybe they don't think that much of them are whatever reason as I personally do think he's undervalued I think I think he's a really nice picking the late second in fact. I would rather have him personally the nick trump myself. I mean he actually goes over perform in true American Fashion Day of Americans are famous famous for a lot of things but I think one of things Americans are famous for is saying something and then doing the exact opposite. How often have I been on this show saying how I want to stay away from Aaron Jones this year not really interested in drafting him for the reasons of Dylan the reasons that you mentioned and the fact that that he has had some knee issues in the past as well and I gotTa tell you I probably own. Three or four Aaron Jones teams already this season in on August second it I don't maybe i. At this point or maybe I just like the value of him here we haven't talked ton about the Andrea Hopkins and the reason I bring this up as he goes up to ten tonight to Paul Desmond Historically when receivers switched from team to team they usually do not play up to what we have seen them play up to in their. Career that first year with the new team and I think with this weird off season that could be even exacerbated more With Hopkins, this year are you on board with? I. Mean Given how talented Hopkins is given that he has a a what looks like a pretty town quarterback throwing them you still on board with Hopkins in the second round this year. I if I, if I was guessing I'm guessing I'd probably up with somebody else. than Hopkins, but you know I don't totally hate him or anything like that. So I do feel like switching new team Carter Murray. You don't really know you know he'd had a decent season last year but he Sounded like he'd Hey, he's going to be able to establish the same connection that happens had with Shawn Watson and So I I don't know I mean I think that there's some risk with the switching of teams and switching of offenses and all that. the to He. He kinda basically goes right around to other receivers and I think you like both these guys better than Hopkins. You would rather have Julio Jones and Chris. God. When the deandre Hopkins this year I would yeah and then but in this in this draft in particular hop was the last of US top six go. So then I'm looking receiver I do like him better than Kevin. Amari Cooper and you know all all those I shouldn't say all those guys I mean there's guys is similarly that are a lot cheaper like Dj more. I think judy has the potential out there but I mean I wouldn't pay that Hopkins Price and happens to be I think a safer than Juju I maybe look at running back Aaron Jones went right before him. So if he was there ought to consider him and the guy that deeds got after 'em is another player considered I won't name infused like as Well I mean, if not, necessarily I don't but I know there's other people who maybe drafting and listening tonight that might not be a fan of that did Let's get into the third round here is just completed the Russel's take Mike Evans. Rainbow Start they're running back tight end receiver Evans is the. Night the quarterbacks cherry has been topped and it is Patrick Mahomes once again over. Lamar Jackson four, the number one quarterback. Tonight he goes at the three. Oh to to Josh Todd Gurley Paul, Eastman after that as his number two running back to go with saquon Barkley Amari Cooper to Evan silver from established run after that Lamar Jackson then goes to Frank Pratt and other rainbow start their Chimera. Julio Jones and Lamar Jackson, truly elite at the top end of all those positions is James Connor the second running back after by John Paulson back to back receivers. Then Pavlik Takes Smith Schuster and Hallam takes Golladay Mark Andrews slips a little bit tonight he goes at the three Oh. Nine days followed by Jonathan. Taylor. At the three ten to Jeremy Brown Dj more and AJ Brown the initial brothers Dj more to the Supreme As they take him at the three eleven and AJ Brown at the three twelve to Peter overs that tonight and without. Getting far into the fourth round here Dave over that does do four straight receivers here so you might be right on the zero RV aspect Yeah. I think he's whom you correct. All right. So getting into this Todd Gurley what's the okay. There's a non zero chance that he does opt out the season, but I think you and I do not expect into at least I don't expect them to at this point. No, you're talking crap in the. Play his you'll be fine. Okay. Amari you win the three, zero three he was going to win the fourth and some of those ones last week we that is yeah, I mean we that was like the story from the from the first two drafts girly not going way until the fourth. So it's pretty crazy. We have talked about cowboys receivers this year they're number two last year, and then their rookie this year we. have. Not. Talked about Amari Cooper now I think we're very excited about the dallas passing attack Dave quite a bit but are you worried about cooper maybe not paying off on a fourth round value here with so many other talented pass catchers considering the offense that Mike McCarthy wants to run in Dallas or she third around values what you meant to say because he wanted to three win in the third round yeah I'm sorry that's right. Oh. Yeah I think there's more I I. I just don't think I'd like Cooper over player over the players that went after him Jude Golladay Dj more those three in particular because those three are kind of the number one alpha's on their team and I they're they're not that concerned about targets you know. You Know Kenny. Marvin Jones is pretty underrated actually. So I'd say he's like a one AA versus one be Jones. So he's and he has a bit up there but cooper of golf and see lamb there's definite competition for targets and he does sometimes just disappearing games and that's always concerns me especially in the best of all, the one good thing about is when he has a big game lot of course, forty points for some reason ray yeah Yeah I I kind of a cooper probably. have we talked about? Dj More enough because I know he was are hype guy last year quarterback for him this year he goes tonight a at the at the three twelve, this Chandler and Dalton Supreme is he now I know he had a great breakout season last year Dave? You think he's GonNa Finish better than that this year with a almost in arguably a better quarterback situation and he'll have more touchdowns for sure because you hear these courtney last year I think he's GonNa, break off a few big ones and this being every season he improves I think he's a really a super talented player so so hard to tackle I I just Think that he's a real pro's pro it wide receiver. I. Like Jay More at tone AJ Brown tonight goes up the three twelve on average F pc. Best Ball Slim's over the last seven days. Dave. He had been going at the four ten. So I mean I don't know if it's an overdraft I mean, it's a round earlier but you over that knew he wasn't going to get him again when it came back to him, it was a low volume passing offense for Tennessee last year an offense that had Ryan Tannehill at quarterback Derrick Henry just bowling over everybody in that backfield all those things should be true again, this year Dave. Aj Brown would be on a low passing attack offense. It is still going to have tannahill throwing them or he's still gonNA have tannehill throwing them. He's still going to have to deal with Derrick Henry getting you know twenty, twenty, five touches a game when you look at Aj let's just them at ADP tonight instead of where we're over that took him when you look at Aj Brown at the end of the fourth round, can you still buy into that because I mean you make a pretty strong case that there's some regression to the mean coming for Mr Brown this year. Yeah I would counter that with the fact that he's only a second year player, he's destined to improve into broader. So I think that that's the. That's the reason he's can be looked at me being taken out of. Have where you would take him given all those other arguments. Yeah. This is the the receiver around here day four around a ton of yellow here on the board, which by the way YouTube dot com slash high stakes fantasy football. If you want to follow along with this live drafted streaming, there Calvin Ridley leads things off the oversight as his number four receiver while that's built, the number four receivers, Calvin Ridley for a lot of teams. He's like they're number two Allen Robinson right after that to Chandler Dalton Supremo Melvin Gordon. The third running back drafted by Jeremy Brown from Dynasty Football Factory Adam feeling off the board after that to Matt Growth Leonard for net is joining Josh Jacobs. Hallam. Helms Hammers Backfield as four net boy a true hammer at running back there is for net Shane Hallam four straight receivers Cooper Cup. The Todd. Robert Woods the John Paulson Odell Beckham to Franklin. Terry maclaurin to Evans, Silva Darren Waller to Paul Ekman and then a couple of receivers round around became McAfee to Josh, and then Portland Sutton the denver receiver to the Russel's at before twelve Terry maclaurin. Dave we I know we talked about him He was a Friday night show we were talking about him but. Again, we continue to see smart people take Terry McLaren in the Fourth Round Evans. Silva is an analyst who who not only plays in pros vs joes. He's had some successful F. FCC main event runs under his belt as well. So he knows what's going on. He takes mcchord tonight and I say what you will about the the offense the target share is going to be out of this world for Terry maclaurin in Washington. Absolutely I. I, like to. manage just seems like that's. The volume of receivers when I feel like there's running back their value that's following these spots like right as a is unfolding right now I like maclaurin as a player I would rather get him into fifth but I mean maybe he have been keep having gone by them from a you know playing the board standpoint I think the narrative this year has been get your running backs early first couple of rounds. Because the the receiver depth is just it's so crazy and we see a lot of running backs go off the board tonight Dave. In the first two rounds, we saw what was it on nine, twelve, fifteen running backs in the first twenty, four picks. There's a lot of running back action there for the teams that didn't roll with running backs early, and if you see this coming over set could be one of these guys. In on running backs here later on and I think that's the thing that if you're drafting a football guys players championship at pc main event, you certainly want to have a strategy going in, but to be able to counter punch this and see that the receivers are slipping or the running backs are slipping. Maybe this is a a chance to to capitalize on that. You know I agree with you but you know by. This is what happens when you of zero in on a strategy with zero RV. Strategy. I mean look at what his team overstaffed in particular look at what it would look like you know you could argue or whoever you want. But let's just say hundred four net on his team and instead of Ridley, or AJ Brown, whatever one or if you like Melvin Gordon or wavy on Bell One, whatever one of one of those running you like I just feel like that's just better. You know what I mean. Now we'll see there's more rang bax coming I mean if if there's not a running background in the fifth round, he'll get a couple. If he wants to go that direction, you may WanNa go with tight end or whatever, and maybe Keep waiting. I feel like that. That would've I mean you know it would have been just nice him because I mean what? What's the what's for nets ADP by the way do you it? Over the last week and they'll four three, zero, six. Yeah. Over the last week in this format for net is three, zero, six, zero six, you're getting like a full half of value and you don't even have a running back on your team. So we're nice pick for him but that again, that's just my my thinking. Hey, if you you, all are listening to the high stakes fantasy football hour for the first time one remind everybody that we do this show. Year round, it normally airs Friday nights at ten nine central full on demand streaming available for listening anytime you a variety of APPs and don't forget to check out HSF OUR DOT com or you can get the podcast right there. I'm not. GonNa. Bore you. I know Dave will fritzy me if I list all these again but the APP store unless it's Beezer literally anywhere else you can find podcast wherever podcasts are phone except for deesor wherever we're on there. Yeah. These big in Europe. I think we're talking about that All right. So moving on here I don't think. So correct me if I'm wrong, we don't have to talk about if we if we talk about him before but I continue to really like Alan Robinson this year I think he's GonNa put up buco numbers I. Don't think Mitchell trubisky is going to be throwing them the football this year and perfect world that will be nick, foles, and I think. fulls is better than sure biscuit and I think that's while typically we normally like a quote unquote sake quarterback throwing to receivers Robinson because they'll zero in on him and and create a lot of targets for him and specifically target him because he's you know the security blanket, I think Nichols is gonNA chains moving more this year for Chicago and I like the fact that that will create not only more catches more targets more snaps Robinson should create more touchdowns for to Dave. Yeah I think so I mean even if for. trubisky might be a little bit better I mean there's always that possibility yeah. I love own Arnesen. Another one of the players I'd be targeting a wide receiver in redraft this year know find pick chandler the Chandler boys guys. Yeah. The Chandler Dalton or supreme like It's a great name. Do you have just? The last name Suprema and then the others are Chandler and Dalton. I don't care now they're clearly talented smart people. They could have been the stupidest people in the world and names like that, and you knew they're going to be success and are some fake I mean if it's a real now they're they're totally. That they were I think Chandler Dalton supreme or the guys who Soviet, the JT marlins stock yeah. From Boiler River Hedge Fund. Yeah exactly. He's my father. Let's get into the fifth round here. they they called me they mark me as they were right Avenue Ingram at the five. Oh, one tonight as the Russell's are the first team to double up on tight ends they took Zach. Twelve now, Evan Ingram at the five. Oh one tonight Levy on bell goes through Josh as Chris Carson to Paul Newman at the five. Our third quarterback tonight is a new name I think we we've seen somebody else go off the board is the third quarterback in pros vs joes. Tonight, it has Dak Prescott to Evans Silva David Montgomery right after that the frankly proud Tyler Lockett John Paulson Mark Ingram Rahim oester Devon single terrier three straight running backs. Go to Pavlik Hallam and growth. Stefan. The respectively Stefan Jeremy Browne Kareem Hunt Making appearance in the fifth round tonight to the supreme is and then Dj Chart to Peter over that and by the way I interpret zero RV. Dave overset did indeed go zero rb tonight and now he's loading up with running back here in the sixth round that we'll get to. Am I wrong not to be bullish on David Montgomery this year I've I was not excited to draft him last year I continued to be not excited to draft him again this year frank laprud gets him tonight Dave at the five five he normally as far as ADP goes as I'm trying to find it here in policies for this ladies and gentlemen I noticed Riveting Radio David Montgomery normally goes up before eight. So pretty good value here from Montgomery still not excited about. Well I mean he is. He's just going back on well, not he's a two and a half back. Would you've make argument with? you know stay on downs the case not really two and a half I think is apropos. Pass catching yes. If there's another back to commands a lot of targets of the backfield Yeah. I agree with you just not a huge fan of his town. I didn't own a much last year I. Think Dynasty owners are drafted. Him are a little bit disappointed or maybe a lot of its appointed himself are and seems like the team was all too happy with him either so but it was there is I mean given available I? Think. he's one person of the considered I also would have looked at cream hunt or single terry myself or even most her I mean I don't know you know. So you can make the case for a lot of those players. Yeah, I think you could to yeah. Any of those running backs that went after Montgomery I think could have got on board with their for for Pratt not ripping his team because I can start was phenomenal Getting back to oversee the Peter overs that discussion who who's with four four DOT COM Henry Mood points out in the chat room wide receiver early really isn't the strategy that usually wins best ball formats, which is what over that tonight we'll see what happens here Jimmy Wagner also chiming in that basketball's a totally different strategy than like a regular managed to League Cam. Anchors was this election in the sixth round we will get to that in to see what is that puts together. After. That for what it's worth I thought chart the chocolate I thought. If just any random team at five twelve. Nice pick I mean. You seems like chart usually goes and really fifth. Actually five twelve is eighty years early. Okay. I'm an so he got them right up that same. So he has gone as high as the five a one. So I mean there there's something to be said for that. Do you? Okay. So this gets back to the the the sort of AJ Brown argument. A little bit is is Charq and by the way they ended up on the same team Charleston Brown both playing on what should be low volume passing offenses unless you think Jacksonville's train wreck Dave and Gardner Menchu's slinging all over the field in the second half of the Games this year you gotta enter the Covid nineteen lists actually. So he's GonNa be out for a couple of weeks probably about you know he's back you find you know I don't think it'd be an issue. Yeah like I don't really think I. Don't think Chuck is much worse than Aj Brown US associate myself. I. Have Curly close early. Okay. Sure. Like. A lot and and what well. Nothing I wanNA talk about players that have been drafted. We'll get laid later on into that You also like to find digs pick I'm assuming at five ten to Brown as he gets him to pair with Tyreek, Hill already having three receiver running backs on his team. Yeah I mean you think Josh Allen. Is GonNA accuracy they did get a little bit our last little bit. Yep. So I wonder filtered a little bit better again, I wonder if digs is the type of guy that you necessarily need to be all that accurate for. 'cause he's just always open. He's fast. He's. He's he's catcher. He's got a tiny catch radius I don't know. So either also a great point where he who probably very few plus I think with Metcalfe's muscles. I just think like he's just he's able to go mister fantastic online and he's fifty fifty balls and just bring peace. I did I mean? Okay. So this is an extraordinarily small sample size, but I went to the packers seahawks playoff game last year and we were we got my my local co host tonight for our after new radio show we got field passes who were down on the field. And we couldn't go to the packers. Then we had to stay on the seahawks end and we we sat in the corner of the end zone watching Russell Wilson throw these fades, and these passes the chart. Now granted, there's no not char Metcalf granted. There was no defense and Chuck was. Wasn't. What maybe chuck was there I don't know maybe mister member again, metcalf was not wearing pads but that guy I mean just some of the catches he was you know they always show the old. John. Odell Beckham catches at pre-game. Some of the catches that McCaffrey mate was making was just ridiculous. All right. So let's get into the six round here. Already told you about camakers. We had four receivers, go off the board after that Hollywood Brown to the supreme knows Tina, Allen to Jeremy Bowen, then you have t y Hilton as the number. Two receiver drafted by Matt Growth At six four tonight tyler boy is the number two receiver for Shane Hallam like that. Pick their at the six zero five we have a hidden hearst citing dave, he's the number six tight end off the board and the number one tight end todd Pavlik here trio receivers after that. devante Parker is the third receiver drafted by John Paulson here tonight at the six, oh seven have Michael Gallup off the board. Frank. Pratt his number three resume and then the immortal Willfuller the guy that just. You know I get Samuel Jackson and unbreakable Yahoo exactly exactly. What is he's glass isn't that as Last yeah. We'll glass fuller taken by Evans Silva by the way haven't Silva. The knows a lot more about fantasy football than I will check to his knowledge on this one but not a fan you won't find will fuller in any of my teams you can call him everything you're calling that would be great don yeah. and he you know it'll be one of the sixty. Yeah. I was doing a gritting my teeth but but just I felt like It was made sense there jk Dobbins to Paul. Deetman. He is the number four running back drafted by The cat like reflexes team there at the six ten dirtiest guys Josh Hayes Andy Andrea Swift. Day Tonight to the Russel's nice little value pick there at the six twelve the Andrea Swift you wanna take a guess at what normal APS s five nine he normally goes at the I got a suppose name, right? Sorry. This is terrible. Yeah. I was trying to spell his whole name like stone five. Oh Four. Wow is where he goes you know was a nice little pickup to domin slipped a little bit tonight to he normally goes and the six zero four. All right. So he goes at the six ten tonight. That's a half round value there for Paul Detachment which we like better you like swift over Dobbins right. yeah. was just a not competing against Mark Ingram but against Kerryon Johnson so and you don't like the other half of the Backfield I guess is what I'm getting at right? Yeah I'm sorry but yeah, I have seen highlights actually recently I mean the guy is a he's pretty awesome. So I he's got he's really running back next year. I'm not sure about this year he's GonNa get enough curious but he might what Mark Ingraham's contracts like. Whatever it is. They're just go. They'll just find a way out if if he. Can't have that mean. They have that much dad money next year where they can't afford get ready I mean. Unless Ingram Science. replacer friendly deal or size. He wants to stay with the team to win a super bowl. But if he decides any of that, you would think that he would be taking a back seat probably relegated to suck. Yeah. If you're next year I would guess. All right. So keenum Allen deb normally goes six. Four, he goes up to six. Oh three tonight you have made your thoughts on his role in that chargers running based offense year well known. Is Six. Oh three is that late enough for you to get on the Keenan Allen train or you still waving by everybody on at the station? I probably. There's one of their player I'd rather have him maybe to actually went after and that's about a I if I had I wouldn't be totally mad if I had him on my team but I prefer both of my right afterwards, you is holding and Tyler Board Yeah. I. Like a lot of the players in this round actually. Yeah. I mean even the murky sprouting. Subsidies only have fewer games, but I mean when he was really wide open, a lot of those, I mean those games I mean he if he's healthy this year, he could really have an explosive season Henry Mudo pointing out in the the our chat right now that Levian Bell Chris Carson falling to the fifth never happens in his drafts and I beyond the I haven't really seen that too much this year either really fourth Yeah. It Levy bell actually Dave over the last. Three eleven twelve respectively for Bell and Carson, and the furthest that those guys have slipped four, zero, nine, four, ten in a two two and a half dozen drafts over the last week record setting records on. This is why you tune into the pros vs Joes here on a high. Here Josh as in policemen. Thank Peter Oversaw for starting. You know going crazy on the rec- ray and everyone else following his receiver and even they you know have enough I. You know I find it interesting that they let Bell Carson Fall they'd taken waller metcalf in the fourth round and then they started getting you will not see Levy on Bell And Chris Carson as the number three running back for many teams this year however, that is the role they will be playing for Josh Hayes and Paul Deeds men respectively getting into the seventh round, Dave Kyle lowry off the board at the seventy one to me that strikes pretty good value there too. I'm not an early quarterback guy but man that is. Nice six Oh three is where normally goes. So you get them at seven to one tonight brandin cooks, the Josh Hayes after that is his number two why the Shawn Watson going to Paul Beats men at seven Oh three Gronkowski Comma rob making a citing to tonight it for Evans. Silva's established the run squad at seven Oh four Ronald Jones off the. Board after that as the number three running back drafted by Frank Pratt AJ green the fourth wideout selected by fours. John Paulson Woods lock it Parker and now Aj Green. Russell. Wilson is the third quarterback selected in round seven the first one by John. Pavlik tonight at the seven. Oh Excuse me seven seven. Yes. The Andre Johnson the steelers number two wide receiver. Goes. Jarvis Landry right after that to matt growth is his third wide Josh Allen to Jeremy Brown as his number one quarterback pair tight ends and the round Tyler higby to Chandler and Supreme Hunter Henry off the Board at seven twelve to Peter overs at as he. He has now made eight picks and only one of them's a running back. This will be juicy and delicious to follow for the remainder of this this dress feed him too much here. Paul I'm not saying I'm not saying it's something that I would be praising. Just. Don't want to talk about his team the whole dams, right? Well, he remember He. He's sort of like set the trend here and I'm talking about and by the way did you notice to I? Lot of teams now are getting their third and fourth receiver? Now in the sixth and seventh round two. So we're seeing a lot of teams get those wide receivers before the value drops off on those tears Dave. Sure going to these six five one now on the phone lines here want to take this phone call. You are now on the air with Dave and bulky. This is Matt Girls came number nine. It is It's good to talk to you. Good to hear from you. We talked about how your your first two picks. We're we're pretty good values. How excited were you start off what they cook mixing team tonight? Yeah never heard that before I just took the values. Fell to me. I. Cook Fan That's great and then you get a another I mean we really talk about this too much day. But Mark Andrews slips to to. Matt. Tonight and and I don't know if that was part of your plan thinking that you're GonNa. Get Matt Mark Andrews in at the three Oh nine tonight map at that sort of decision made itself for you when he was on the clock when he was on the board when we're on the clock. Yeah, it was actually hoping irks which all somehow somehow some slips death andrews but I like Andrea wasn't in the cards night. Yeah. I like Andrews better. If you had your pick between Andrews Erz, would you which one? Would you rather have this year? I normally draft Mark Andrews. I. But I was hoping Normally Marco's early the first half three. You know. So I wasn't thinking now. Matt. Now that you're eight rounds into this you know basically almost halfway done how how happy with your draft so far I mean this is obviously already made mention that you have some players on the squad that you didn't envision on that. We're going to be on your team tonight. So how as you look at your team as a whole how do you feel about it? Yeah I like it pretty good. I. Think it started up pretty good. I think I'm normally I'm running back guy but I'm gonNA. Try this way a little bit little more balanced. Elect grabbed with my hands if I can get earlier. Yeah exactly. I'm with you on that for sure. They always makes things easier. We can get one of those elite tight ends early growth chiming in on the high stakes fantasy football hour tonight drafting nine in the pros vs Joes number four fat boy slim. What do you think of of team twelve Peter overs that he's he starts off with the five receivers. Do you think that that really directly affected with the other eleven teams doing seeing what he was doing? Well I think well, it takes up a lot of the receiver, the receivers in love running backs. That's a good value obviously around five I've never seen that. Maybe. The late for thrown for those enormous David Johnson that somehow slips. But I haven't seen bill or Carson go that late. I was interesting. We're talking about that earlier to to see you know three guys that have been so fundamental. In getting volume for their respective teams that have them slipped to the fifth round I? I don't think either of us saw that coming tonight, regarding those guys how concerned are you about a timeshare in Buffalo Mad I, know you seven single -tarian in the fifth round a without you know playing too many your cards here single Terry, in the fifth are you on board with just him or do you think there's another piece that needs to be added in this type of format? Yeah I need add somebody else I mean I'm hoping that he might get a few more pass catching opportunities obviously I. think he probably will lose some of the goal line touches but I think he'll play more vertebrae away just because you know the rookies it's going to be hard starting them right away and and making them do some pastor on the you know certain things so. When you when you were planning for this draft and strategizing, did you have a rough set number at each position in mind that that you wanted to grab knowing that this is not a manage league that it's it's a set it and forget it type thing Did you have a set number at each position in mind or you kind of fluid on that? It's pretty much set the only thing obviously, if you grab one position and it's really high. I might only travel a couple of those right. Exactly. Yeah. No question right now giving away obviously people know. Yes. Yes they do, and then we certainly appreciate you bringing the insight to the table here. Tonight appreciate you calling in good luck not only the rest of the way and pros vs Joes this year but good luck in the F.. FCC Main Event and all your address this summer. Thanks so much chiming in dude. Yeah thank you. Mac Macro. You do the same man macro chiming in tonight here from the nine spot from one. I guess one of our favorites starts in the strap so far with with some of the value that fell to him and and I think he was a little surprised. At the value that was falling to him as well, and just in general you know we talked about David Johnson to and bell and Carson a lot of good value at the running back position falling in this draft there for sure. Let's talk where we leave off. We got through the Seventh Rana believe. Yeah. Let's lead off with the eighth round here Dave as oversight goes back to back tight ends. He Goes Hunter Henry at the seven twelve TJ Hopkinson at the eight Oh one Julian Edelman to Chandler Dalton Supreme, their Darius late, not the board as the number four receiver to Jeremy Brown Mike just sickie is Mac Makarova's pick at the Excuse me eight, four tonight. You have three straight receivers, go off the board after that. It's Emmanuel Sanders Shane Hallam it Sterling Shepard. Todd Pavlik and then it's Marvin Jones to John Paulson Jared Cook to Frankly Pratt that's his number one tight end Jamison crowder off the board to Evan Silva as his number four receiver super selected tonight at the eight ten hooper backing up. For men at that position for Shod Param, the number three wide open for Josh Hayes and the nor fan be first team to get to tight ends is also the first team to get three times as Norfolk goes off the board to the eight twelve boy, those Russell's Dave their completely unpredictable. We don't know where they're going they're cagey. Cagey. You have been the Marvin Jones. Fan. Boy Of this show. You know you like it more than me given that he goes now this is a slim format obviously, but given that he goes tonight. Dave. Eight Oh, seven and knowing that his best ball slim ADP over the last week is that the nine Oh four you envision yourself with a lot of Marvin Jones teams this year. So given the he was drafted eight Oh seven tonight you normally goes at the ninety four getting slim. Yeah. Do I envisioned myself? Okay. ME. Sure some some somewhat I don't know eight or seven does seem a little bit early. But if he if he goes on average at nine four I, feel like this. This guy is going to be like your number four receiver and a lot of your squad this year given how much you lie and you probably won't have. A lot of spots he could be. I'm trying to think of the other thing I was. All. Right. So we have to giants receivers off the board in this round sterling shepherd to Pavlik, and then Darius late and before and goes to Jeremy Brown. Do you have a favorite receiver is at one of those two or is it the other Guy that that you would rather have when you take draft value into account for giants receivers this year? I would say one of them. One of the three hours take Darius Laden. We know what Sterling Shepherd is and what he's done in the past, and so it's not all that. Great. and then there's the player is more of a slot guy and Slayton. You know did really well as a rookie and he's got some upside. So I think I'd go slate and if if I were to choose one of those right yeah I know again back Marvin, Jones I probably would take Jones over either of those guys but I would take Ataman Sanders over Jones although not by lot. So Lance Turbans is in the chat room blog radio right now chiming in imaginary rope a dope pick Clyde Edwards at one on one, and then set the fake trap of Hoping Team, tries to block the C. H. mahomes connection is it was a statement tonight about and mahomes there was no mahomes glad Edwards Hilar- selection. He well, he did yeah and he passed on I'm twice as Mahomes goes to Josh. Hayes at the three Oh to tonight there was one more thing I was oh Emmanuel Sanders Dave we we haven't talked about him a lot. He goes tonight at eight o five to Shane Hallam and I'm just kinda curious because this guy has has bounced around the league ever since he he left Pittsburgh in Denver then he was in San Francisco now he's in New Orleans but wherever he's been he's produced and I know Michael Thomas the target monster is opposite him but I'm starting to like Emmanuel Sanders this year even though you Know you have forty one year old drew brees sling and the Rock I think there's some fantasy value there. Yeah, I. Agree actually I prefer that picked the pick guard Shane made right. You know the the round earlier with the Johnson I think sanders is a really nice nice value. In that Ethan, feel like Sanders is going to have some spike weeks this year in that high powered New Orleans offense for sure. It's like the veterans you know like you're Aj Greens Landry's almonds Sanders Jones. So you even crowder to some extent Those guys are always values in the that spot you can count on them to some extent. We talked about Jonathan Taylor or the rookies slipping a little bit tonight. We did not mention Jonathan Taylor among those he actually went right at ADP tonight to Jeremy Brown at the three ten That was one thing I want to bring up on the show I'm GonNa go to the four one to right now as we head back out to the phone lines, you are on the air go ahead gave us crisper Pittsburgh. All right. Let's go to potentially Pittsburgh. You're on the HSF at power you're on with Dave and bulky who is this? Scene How from pigskin dot com how's it going? Chain it is going good more importantly. How's it going for you? As we are now halfway done with your draft? How's it looking from the eight spot? you know I think it's looking pretty good I feel like a have kind of a well balanced team I you know the one way I've planned if Clinton. Is going to take him and if not kill was the go-to who hasn't gone in the first round of any of these. But I think he's number one tight end and wanted to kind of locked out pretty earlier. In the second round, you take Josh and I think I can't remember if you're in the chat room, we're talking about this earlier but I heard not tonight, it was a previous PJ this year you had Josh Shakeups in Games, where the raiders were getting, you know rocks or needed to come back. He was not on the field a lot. It was Jalen Rashard but when the raiders are winning Jacobs never came off the field, how concerned are you this year with Jacobs potentially coming off the field on on passing down so you think that changes in in year two. I think it changes. I think it's something that we've already heard from the raiders they wanna get Josh shake more involved with the passing game I? That happens a lot you're to with three down. is a work year. You're word about running the football now. Jacob Pants. That down now it's blocking and receiving. So I I think we're actually see him more and I think the raiders will be better and to me. It's kind of a lock solid or Darby one and I like getting that in the second round. Yeah. He doesn't usually go usually goes a little bit closer to the term, right? Yes. That is correct. Trash shake-ups again over the last week, normally go at the two zero, three gone as high as the one eleven so she were you. were. What was your reaction? You saw that on the board junior fourth row in the fourth round you just kind of shock. Yeah it was. It was not my plan whatsoever, but you guys were talking Chris Carson following he the guy wanted there and and then you know obviously he was there and then for that was there. So I kinda took all my time debating between the two of them I'm saying. Of. Course on on the next pick but like I mean four nine. Like him right. But the value I think we not going to be a run first team I think we know that he has to get even the Jaguars GonNa be bad. He has to get more touchdown and to get them that late as an rb to just just felt like I, I kinda had to do it and sometimes those are the worst picks when you're going to have to make them but. I'm hopeful that he can have a couple of big weeks and then helped me out. So I was it a similar feeling when Rehim oester fell to you at the five zero seven tonight or excuse me five away tonight because this is that's another guy that you've got basically a full round of value on man. Yeah I I wanted to kind of pivot back to receiver there But a couple of guys that I was eyeing up at that spotlight Portland Sutton, we wanted to four twelve just just kind of went, and so I I really feel like running back just takes a dive and master was a guy I had considered before the draft him planning at the four Oh five I would've been happy with him there So I thought he'd get these three I'm holding off on running back for five or six rounds and be good to go. you get Philip Lindsey here in the ninth and and just kind of curious to your thoughts on how you see that backfield breaking down between Gordon Lindsay and Roy screaming this year is it is it the Gordon Lindsay and Freeman, just there in case of injury or in a perfect world? HOW ANYTHING DENVER DIVIDES UP? Those touches. I wouldn't even surprised me freeman gets caught to be honest with you I. I think he's barely hanging on to that roster I actually think Lindsay could be the RB one over Melvin Gordon and that's kind of one of my old tapes here but he's proven that he can catch the football. He's proven that he can produce and re really like Denver this year I think they're really going to take a step up So to have him as an rb four, feel like he has big upside and it's perfect in this. Format. Right. If he catches seven eight passes then he's plugged into my rb slot. If he had a week where they're ahead and they're running Melvin Gordon, he doesn't get much. You know I have enough running back space. So I kind of feel Lindsay is a great best ball running back. I. Know that that's kind of a trope that's out there and just got a great basketball player but I think he is is a guy like my before that can give me a couple of solid weeks and keep me a top the league. I like the fact that he has standalone values not to be out of that requires an injury. He's not someone that you know I can't tell you Gibson went before you know. He's a lot of things kind of follow. The right way wins. He doesn't really need that he's GonNa. He's already going to have a role in this offense Shane Jalan joining us on the Hsa at night you follow me on twitter at. Hal Hallam Shane in addition to this this juggernaut you're putting together here you also started a little mini tight end run here in the tenth round taking Irv Smith there we talked about maybe Smith being the second you know the wide receiver to or the second pass catcher for Minnesota this year I is that a little bit hyperbolic or could you see that happening? I think it could. I'm a bigger spiff guy felt like at the end of last season, he really came on and kind of pass Kyle Rudolph I. What I think is if I wasn't in Minnesota, what what would be Smith Eighty? PM, he'd be going up with Noah Fan, Jay Hawkins and you'd be going in that area and I'm not sure convert off matters much anymore. I'm not sure if he's really much of a player. So, he kind of fades and becomes that tight end to serve takes that title one I mean what he did as a twenty one year old is outstanding and usually we see that followed up pretty well. So I once again to kind of big upside player torch will hold down that spot for me but I think are kind of a high upside player. I can that that can get some flex appeal with some big games. You have a fellow fan of Irv Smith in the blog talk radio chat room tonight sports betting man. Lance. Loves. Earth Smith this year Shane, you're on the clock here in the eleventh round, take us through the thought process and who this election will be. Well there's actually a guy that I consider it at the nine. Oh that is still here and I didn't really plan on taking my fifth receiver this early but I'll think, Yvo, Samuel here in the the end of the eleventh round. But I know the injuries there you might miss a month but we know the production GonNa be there and also kind of locks up the pass catchers in San Francisco to me the the guys that aren't rookies. So I have George, Kiddo a have Deebo, I think one of them will have a big game. They have to throw the ball and So, I guess I'm kind of hopping on the forty niners stack here and when they big games, it should put me ahead but I I think you both too much value with eleven. Oh, wait even doesn't come back you know to. October or if the regular season gets kicked back a couple of weeks, then I kind of get him at a absolute steel if he's GonNa be healthy. He is the dynasty and Debbie analyst for Fake pigskin checkout, his NFL draft work at drafts, and he's the Co host of the Debbie Marketplace podcast to Shane Hallam from baked pigskin joining us tonight chain I have a few rookie drafts actually this week I have the one on one and one of them. Who would you be taking at the one on one and a rookie draft knowing what we know now tough. Here's what I would do is I would actually try to trade down to the one or two. I would basically put that. Pick Up I. WE'VE I've seen trades where the one who to is given up a future I to move up when picked the take Clyde or Hilar- and not Jonathan. Taylor I. Mean You can get a future second move down one spot still going to be running back Jonathan Tumors, better and I that would kind of be my plane. Jane Hallam joining US tonight good words, good advice, and I want to be sending out some trade offers after the broadcast tonight. Shame. Best of luck to you. The rest of the way in pros vs joes and the F. FCC event all your drafts this summer. Always good talking to you enjoy the rest of the draft tonight man. No thanks, and also if you, GonNa Take Pigskin my prisoner suggest dynasty league I, I wrote eleven pages of my unique strategy I actually collected eighteen, twenty, twenty, one I in two, twenty, twenty, one second I think the most extreme strategy of any of those. Prisoners Dynasty Leagues Seeking Chat. That is good stuff and we will check that out at fake pigskin DOT com. Truly Good Analysis Shane be good dude. We'll talk to you again soon. Chain. Hallam later, gentlemen follow him on twitter at Shane P Hallam. Let's get back into the action here in the ninth round. Dave James White leading things off the a one to the Russel's followed by Henry Rugs and Christian Kirksey Josh Hayes and Paul Dietz respectively, Dallas got hurt the second tight end drafted by Evan Silva here at the nine hundred four to back backup Rob Gronkowski Then a lot of running backs here. Antonio Gibson the frankly Pratt tevin coleman the John Paulson Marlin Mac Todd Pablo you heard Shannon Helen Philip, Lindsey pick, and then to re Cohen to grow Jonah Smith. Followed by Matt. Brita to the supreme is and then Matt Ryan. The first quarterback on the board to Peter overset overs at waited. Until round tend to take his number two running back, which is Zach Moss. Drew brees is going to be starting at quarterback for the supreme as this year as he is their selection at the ten to Tony Pollard Jeremy Brown followed by Tom Brady to Matt Growth as his starting quarterback. You heard the IRV Smith picked the Hallam's hammers and then Eric Hebron right after that to Todd Pavlik Athey ten Oh, six tonight that is his backup tied under Hayden hearst. Starting quarterback is Carson Wentz for John Paulson a pair of tight ends Chris earned into. Franklin. Proud. That's his number two blake jar went to Evans Silva that's his number three certainly doesn't want to get left out in the lurch at that position as he is the second team with three tight ends tonight Jordan Howard Paul. Eastman right after that, and then you have Jerry Judy to Josh Hayes, in the to spot Cam Newton wraps things up in the tenth round to Robert and Robbie Russell backing up I learned Murray their. Lebanon one let's keep keep things motoring along ago Dave Yeah Jack Doyle number four tight end for the Russel's. This is going to be such a fun team to talk about Jack Doyle at the eleven o one Greg Olsen is the starting tight end Josh Hayes not sure if he saw that coming when he was prepping for his Main, of Arizona's Joe's Jeff. But Greg, Olsen at the eleven. Oh, to tonight. McCall. Paul Demon Kerryon Johnson is going to Evansville the here at the eleven o four Preston Williams is the number four receiver drafted by Frank Lampard Ian Thomas off the board to John Paulson as his backup to Travis, Kelsey at the eleven seven Justin Jefferson and then Deebo Samuel. May Live on the air by Shane Jala Matthew Stafford is the second of two quarterbacks back to back selections at the quarterback position. For Matt Growth You have Jalen regular off the borders and the number five receiver for Jeremy. Browne. Kiss Sean Vaughan to Chandler, Suprema, and then Aaron Rodgers to Peter. Overs at at the twelve, he now has as many. quarterbacks as he does running backs looking back on this draft day we have not talked about Ian Thomas a lot this year he is taking the place of Greg Olsen who's moved on to what he hopes as bigger and better things in Seattle that remains to be seen but he and Thomas There's GonNa be some opportunity for him Carolina with Teddy Bridgewater? Yeah, thanks. So he's pretty talented player or you know you're just kind of betting on the com- so to speak and I think yard. He makes a Lotta sense for for Boston here after having Kelsey, you know a little bit of an upside young player as someone find seem. Feel like McColl. Hartman's actually come back down to Earth. I remember when people are just going crazy drafting him talking about how great his upside is and all these big plays he can make, and you know you saw him sometimes like the eighth round sometimes the seventh round the highest he's gone has been the eighth round over the last seven days. Tonight he goes at what was that Lebanon three? Eighty ps eleven to I feel like that's a better spot for but seems more in range I. I actually feel like he should go a little bit later after his teammate, but that's just again my take is we talked about in the past. All right. So Ronald Jones. In the seven tonight keyshawn Bon in the eleventh. The. Prices on those guys after the Shawn McCoy signing I don't think has changed all that much Jones I guess normally goes at the five await So maybe a little bit of a dip there that's quite a dip. Yeah. Von As normally going at the nine ten. So good value for Sean on their. This is Kinda like where were we talked about is I I don't think McCoy has a huge impact on the team gets possibility does I could be totally wrong. So I feel like getting. Roggio. Now in the seventh round I feel like now you're kind of that's kind of where I would. Like to pay for to get him. I. Look at Kansas City last year. Dave didn't even have him active down the stretch of. He wasn't a super. He wasn't even yeah and and so now you goes to a Tampa team that can has super bowl aspirations but you and I both like Ronald Jones I I think at this point of their in life von has more juice than than shady McCoy as weird as it is to say that but I think that's that's accurate and that's where currently add on the buccaneers running back situation. I'm with you I don't I. Don't think McCoy has a huge has a huge impact here in Tampa this year moving onto the twelfth round Dave Boston Scott. The third running back selected by Peter overs that here at the twelve o one Jay Stern Burger. My Guy At twelve. Oh, to to the supreme here Baker Mayfield backing up Josh. Allen for Jeremy Browne. Andrew. Madison Matt growth gets the handcuff therefore, his Alvin Cook First Round selection for chief Nah for cheap is Alexander Madison goes on the twelfth round and I and I feel like they've. They'll get back to the analysis here in a second but Madison has slipped now to the ten. Oh, seven on average which I still think is kinda cheap for him and I think that's all because. delvin Cook reported to training camp you know and and a Lotta. The misgivings you know Henry Muto I think was was in the chat. Last Tuesday when Cook reported and said that You know all these. He was listening to all these on. Siriusxm saying that Cook was a was a bad first round investment and to me if you made that first round investment looking pretty good now because you've probably got him a little bit later, he should've gone. Yeah and we were the ones who were saying he's GONNA report it'll be fine and. Luckily hopefully, the people are listening to our podcast drafted Cook Damian Harris after that to Shane Hallam little shameless self promotion there I love it. Yeah. I'm glad to do it better. Instead of me all the time Ben Rothlisberger is backing up. Russell Wilson for Todd Pavlik followed by latavius Murray to John Paulson Their Daryl Henderson, the Frank Pratt, and then brandon off the board at the twelve old nine to silver Sony Michelle to Paul Simon and then Daniel Jones to Josh. Hayes after that CD lamb goes to team Russell with the final pick of its wealth brown Dave I'm going. To present the twelfth around without comment to you want you to start at the twelve one, go all the way to the twelve twelve. Maybe don't have to all the way to the twelve twelve maybe could stop at the twelve ten and tell me if there's anything that sticks out to you about a couple of running backs that were picked this round, who may or may not be real life teammates. Oh. Yeah. Also, Damian. Harris goes ahead of Sony Michelle Yeah and this is how you would be picking them to. You'd be taking here. So Michelle man I feel why would not you would take Michelle over here I think I would. Yeah. I. Mean He is technically the starter. Why? Why would I take one? Kerry. Last year over the start because that guy's young and healthy and the other guy is old and not healthy not all but he's not healthy. So. Yeah. What what is his injury? He's not like some sort of a public or something like that. The look it up right now I I. The thing is I even Michelle is not really on my draft list so I don't really keep track of him. So I think the right guy to own teams white in the nine. So that was nice. Pick at the nine, right All. Right. So Sony Michelle here is what we're going on. He is on the active Publis with a foot injury he had foot surgery in May and had two hundred, forty seven carries last year three point seven yards per carry obvious you know maybe I wouldn't you know I I don't normally draughts only Michelle. So I really wasn't all that aware of what you know what his status was apologize that's okay to apologize. People just want you to bring it I. Don't know if I would take gaming Harris ahead of US still talk to. As the starter but I value that cardinal rule not to draft players that. Are Injured, coming to training camp inserted while waiting on me to have surgery and it's so crazy, right. So this is more of a baseball thing but a lot of times and again I don't want to compare the injuries because they're totally different but a lot of these guys get these strained ligaments or partially torn ligaments and their elbow, a lot of these pitchers they try to rehab it I, avoid the Tommy John Surgery and then they come back they pitch like crap and they ended up having the surgery anyway. Right so maybe that's what happened with Michelle is he thought he could rehab this foot injury and then it just got to be a point where like I can't do this. I'm going to have to have this surgically repaired on. That's why had I don't know I. I'm just trying to speculate. So we possible shouldn't really should be more informed on Sony Michelle if I were that until I e I mean exactly now we should get to packer on because that guy should be the expert on Tony Michelle what yeah. So. Damien. Harrison such disappointing rookie season that it's tough to get behind your afternoon but it doesn't make sense. He was talented coming out of school I was surprised that he was used. So infrequently let's go to the seventy seven ladies and gentlemen right now and take another phone call here in the F. F. Our coverage of pros vs Joe is twenty, twenty, seven to seven. You're on the air and bulky who are we talking to? This is Robbie Russell Oh good Robbie Russell they. Could Talk to you in this strap, it would be Robbie Russell tonight. All right. So let's so much to talk about here. Kick things off to war. Went through your mind at at the one on one tonight when you could add anybody you went with Edwards Allaire. About that decision. I just like how Andy Re compared him. Brian Westbrook I did a draft I wanNA, say like mid July. And took t H. Number one overall there in a Terminator League I believe it was. And with the news of Damian Williams, often opting out it just. It was a no brainer to me I don't see EMC doing what he did the last couple of years especially when new coaches and stuff like that. Robbie, what I WANNA talk with you about your tight end selection here at the to twelve tonight too because we historically have seen this year mark. Andrews. Go ahead of Zacher it's you could add either one why was urged to pick over Andrews there. I to be honest I was looking I was looking at going Erz and Erz Andrews. you know with with Andrews coming out with type one diabetes and I know he said he's GonNa play. I, it was a toss up there. Honestly my plan was to get Goddard as a backup, but that went awry. but I mean or Winston guy still so I just feel like I don't see. Andrews. Getting ten touchdowns again. I think Baltimore's are GonNA get some Better production this year from their wide receiver core. Talking about continuing this tight end conversation with you Robbie You had two tight ends after five rounds three after eight and four. After eleven you know given that you're on the end here where you're just trying to kind of force the issue for some of these other teams that that you know like Josh as right next to you who hadn't had a tight end at the time you had four he had zero then he takes Greg Olsen what was the strategy for loading up with tight ends in the first eleven rounds? the way I look at it is again, you know you got to flex spots right and you can use the tight end It's so hard to pass up that point and a half compared to one for a running back or wide receiver, and you know I got Evans and sudden early on. So I felt like at that point I was I was set at wide receiver you know. Did, you have any interest after you got the Andrea Swift late in the sixth round. Did you have any interest in pairing them up with very on Johnson or you just good with swift after that? I was good with Swiss I've never been carry on Johnson's Fan You know back to I WANNA say like high school days if I'm not mistaken, he's just always seems to be heard or or missing some chunk of the season and I, think the lions. Solve that, and that's why they went out and grabbed swift and. Even carry on stays healthy, which, I which I highly doubt but I still see swift slowly eating into a time and maybe by week seven eight or so he's most likely going to be the starter. You have to be week somewhere in these draft. It's just nobody can build a dominant team at every position. Obviously you you have some playmakers at running back you you have. A large volume at tight end here Murray and Newton, or your quarterbacks and receivers. Is it a stretch to say Robbie that you're going to be hammering that position in the last five rounds of this draft? Most likely I'm I'm looking. scouting right now to see who's there for that. You know again I I, I like the top two that I got, and then you know with cd-rom there and all the by weeks workout. But I don't know if I'd necessarily say Hammer but I will definitely be looking for at least two more. Robbie final question on this be quite Edwards alert thing This is more of a Christian McCaffrey question If let, let's say you're in a draft and let's say you have the to pick and Edwards. Hilar- goes off the board at one Would you be taking McCaffrey at two or are you letting him slip there to? Know I would take McCaffrey to Coming into this draft. You know before Williams opted out I was already. Tossed you know talking between McCaffrey and in Calera. I mean I just? Obviously I'm putting on my Harry's basket there, but if you can pan out. They said I think the production there's going to be real close but I I mean it's it's one two for me. So yeah, McCaffrey, a number two all day. All right. So last question here you're on the clock here in the fourteenth fifteenth, who are you looking at? Definitely. Looking at. One of those wide receivers that we talked about. couple of options here for sure. Let me check. Yup I Anthony Miller third year wide receiver can go wrong. You know that's typically when wide receivers like like the breakout I'm hoping Nick foles. Wins the job they're not at you bisky fan at all and I liked the addition of full that quarterback there. I, like it and and So they fourteenth at the fourteen twelve you take Anthony Miller who who I'm a fan of an and to get him as your number four receiver given the the team construction you already have it running back and tight end I think is a big win for you leading off the fifteenth round who's it going to be? I feel like I can go anywhere like I think y'all said that earlier like wild cards, you really don't know where we're going to go. right I'M GONNA go I'm. GonNa go armstead I mean. Burnett you know again he's kind of like a like a Dalvand Cook in a way you know where Kerryon Johnson, he always seems to Miss Chunks of season last year I think he played all season and there was a couple of teams I had armstead just waiting in the wings for for net to Miss Games and it didn't So hoping hoping that pans out this year. Clyde, Edwards Allaire is the fantasy running back one in twenty twenty. You can tweet your congratulations to Robbie Russell at Robbi one, hundred score Russell. Thank you so much Robbie for for joining the broadcast. Tonight. Thanks for making this a very enjoyable draft cover best of luck and PJ and the main event this year dude. I appreciate it. I got number one in the main event. So stay tuned we'll see go with her. Oh. Yeah. Now we're talking. Hammock. All right. This is going to be. Thank you that there's be fun main event Dave Edwards. And you know the scuttle butt on twitter after the F.. FCC main event early drafts lots came out was you know we're talking about Edwards Hilarion and they are the opening game this year and we already saw what happened to Kareem. Hunt at that opening game on Thursday where he went after that, you know the first overall pick in many NFC maidment Edwards. Hilar-. Blows up there knowing what we know about that offense knowing where they're being taken right now if you see, they're going you know lots of dress at once and that was Robbie Russell at Robbi one underscore Russell twitter getting back to the action on the thirteenth round. The aforementioned Russell takes chase lead things off all by Kirk cousins number three quarterback drafted by Josh. Mike Williams do Paul followed by Duke Johnson to Evan Silva at the thirteen four Paris Campbell off the board of Franklin Pratt. Josh Kelley to John. Paulson right after that Sammy Watkins who I think is officially on my radar for the first time in his career day of this year I I like Sammy Watkins I like to pick their for Todd Pablo thirteen seven jared Goff is the first quarterback chosen by Shane He gets off at the thirteen eight. John Brown Matt Growth Dawson knocks to Jeremy Brown and then you have joe borough and AJ Dylan pair rookies wrapping up the Thirteenth Round here borough to the supreme and AJ. Dylan to Peter. Overs that Deandra Washington also as we get into the fourteenth round Dave This is the third straight running back drafted by Peter overs that certainly some upside there on the Kansas. City chiefs, him hines the pass Catcher for Indianapolis to Chandler and Dalton Supremo Anthony McFarland one of the backup Brian Baxter Pittsburgh Jeremy Brown Jeremy Brown who works for Dynasty football factor. Maybe some insight on who that backup to James Connor will be this your he's putting his money on Anthony McFarland Sean. Jackson after that to Matt grow through lack is Shane Helms back to back the second half of his back to back. quarterback picks there. As he pairs lock with Golf Chris Thompson Pass catching running back to from Jacksonville to Todd Pavlak followed by Ryan Tannehill the number two quarterback drafted by John Paulson from four for four, the Franklin Brad Franchise, and the five spot now has three tight ends Gerald joining Jared Cook and Chris Herndon there, and he goes off the board in the Fourteenth Curtis Samuel and Jimmy Garoppolo to. Silva and determine respectively followed by Kyle. Rudolph and you heard the Anthony Miller pick live on the air to Robbie Russell at the fourteen twelve tonight and that is your fourteenth as we are getting in to round fifteen here. In fact I think I might want to just the youtube channel. Just we can get that full draft board on that everybody really really likes Dave. I'd far be it for me to to rob the viewers who the actual picks are going to be here I want to view I know and I'm trying to adjust the right now this is. A this is. Gay So I know rob our producer works very hard but this is why we need. Him To. Like, you know take more of takes to me smoke breaks. Well, that's the thing if the plans at around when stuffing's adjusting I, think I got it now apologized for that. All right. Thanks for a fourteenth round what stands out to you here a lot of players that we have talked about before Dave. When you look at the Pittsburgh running back situation, this is a real kick things off here Anthony Mcfarland, the backup for you at Eh running back for James Connor or somebody else or I guess maybe this is the most important question Is there fantasy value in the backup Pittsburgh running back situation this year? Oh yes. Possible McFarland could be the Guy Jalen Samuels just put on the Reserve Kobe list just seven hours ago So It's possible that him. You know I I prefer myself. I haven't drafted McFarland myself at all and I I prefer not to. Not to draft a reserve player that it could be one of two or three others. So I pr- I probably would have gone maybe a different direction that that's how my feeling on it because I'm just. And and you know okay. So let's let's say for the sake of argument you feel like it's going to be Benny Snow how much fantasy upside is there in that I know it's late and and if he is catching earn if he is getting all the targets, they're okay I can kind of get it but at the same time, not very excited about. That at all moving on here into what else did they want now it's moving in the fifteen round here. Dave Reich while Armstead off the board at fifteen o one. You heard that pick from Robbie Russell live on these airways. Denzel mims off the board after that to Josh Hayes Teddy Bridgewater is the third player selected in the fifteenth round here by Paul Eastman, and then you have golden tate right after him to Evans Silva Philip Rivers is the second quarterback drafted by Franklin. Then you have Allen Lazard and the McCoy The aforementioned Sean McCoy going off the board tonight at the seven seven spot. That's todd. He did not have Ronald Jones he did not have Sean Vaughan but he Does, get a piece of that buccaneers backfield here Steven Sam's off the board after that every time I see Stephen Smith Sims name I think that was Kramer from Seinfeld name. When he was on Murphy Brown, he was the secretary for Murphy Brown eyed to look this up. It's Steven Snell was his name not Stephen Sense, but I always think that afterwards. Remember the Yeah. Just sticks in my mind for whatever reason Gardner, minhsiu who just got placed on the list I saw somebody on twitter say. If you were taking bets on what NFL players most likely to make it to the Cova letter. would Gardner Menchu not beat the odds on favourite you pretty maybe I could see back on their as well. But yeah. Mayfield. What people don't young people make citizens. Yeah. then you have will disagree and Darren Evans wrapping up things. In the fifteenth round, we'll Disley the third tight end drafted by the supreme and then Darren Evans four straight running back here now for over that, and we'll get into what we think about that coming up a little bit later on. Did you okay now we talked about him already I don't WanNa talk about Allen Lazard. Let's talk about Denzel mems because this is a player I know I. Liked in the pre-draft process, maybe even more than you but he goes to a situation where he's got for shod Param Perriman they're not much other competition and he's a rookie but I also understand that the jets they lost one of their linebackers. So this season who's opting out I don't know how good that defense is going to be. They could be throwing in a lot and when you talk. About throwing the ball on the field, you WANNA throw your most talented player to me. That is Denzel mims rookie or not like this pick as a guy who could end up being the number one receiver going off in the fifteenth, round yeah you know he's got a shot I think that you know one of the reasons I don't like them is because I try to get him and dynasty these and I couldn't get him anywhere. So now I hate him so this yeah, I didn't get him anywhere either although I do have three rookie drafts except very. Yes. I actually wanted to acquire at least one of the League's I'm in dynasty and I could not get them I mean I could have but it just didn't work out whatever. But I do like them I think that you know he's a rookie he's got a shot like you know all those points you mentioned are good and he's not super expensive relatively reasonable. You know same team took Jerry Judy the in the late ten. you know I think the Wall he's not on the quite on the same level Judy I. Mean that many runs later of stuffing where the shot? I. Think what we'RE GONNA do getting back to my dynasty rookie dress There's live drafts and what what we've done in the past is I, just set my cue and then it just auto 'cause I'm broadcasting these drafts I can't you do years on the air? No, we'RE NOT GONNA do it on the air but I will recap because I I will set it and then I will close the draft room, do the show, and then after the show is Like. Before we sign off, I'll go in there and tell you exactly who I got because it's like opening presents on Christmas Day I. Know You do. But. Why don't you just do the drafts 'cause he's our well, how long have you ever commit and a half? Yeah. I don't know if it's I think I think it is still minute a half. Yeah. Leave it open and then just like you know throw to me or something and then make your pick I could I I don't know how comfortable I am doing that but. I mean how big of a CIA I mean? It depends on how big of a you know if you're GonNa, put him on the computer. Yeah. I I don't know on your phone I will on your phone I could do it on my phone I will consider that I'm not going to say I can talk I know you can't hindsight for everybody I understand that you're very talented at talking I'll say challenges I'm saying I can you can do it. Yeah. All right. Here, we go into the seventeenth round around early Anyway I'm Eric. What do you think? I don't know still make pick. figure it out I. Don't think you'll hear he's interesting picture in the sixteenth offers that I I gotta decide if I want. You know. Danton Evans fricking Tyler whoever the guy is from Minnesota that got Tampa drafted. His name Tyler understood why can't Tyler Hamilton? Laker I I I I'll figure you haven't Reggie Hammond Yeah. Forty eight hours. Yeah. Kick. Low. Logan. Malone from blue streak and just just get all those. Make It. Happen. Malone yeah. By if you've never seen blue streak, see that movie, it is tremendous. Moving onto the sixteenth round Keel Harry to Peter over set to lead things off is he goes back to the wide receiver. Well, Sam Darnold to the supreme as as their number three quarterback. Jalen Hurd at the sixteen, ten tonight. To Jeremy, Browne O. J.. Howard is the third tight end drafted by Matt Growth as he goes with him to go with the sticky and Mark Andrus to a Tunga by low is the third quarterback drafted by Shane Hallam Ben, you have Benny Snell going off the board right after that to Todd Pavlik Michael Pittman Rookie quarter receiver. Excuse me for Indianapolis to John Paulson and then you. Have Robbie Anderson to Frank Pratt followed by Derek Carr being selected by Evans. Silva Tyler I for to Paul Eastman Rex burkhead to Josh Hayes and then Devon Icici back to back Patriots here to Robbie Russell here with the final pick of the sixteenth round. David you look at Rex burkhead as long as we turn this into the Patriots running back show what about rex burkhead this year in the sixteenth round. He actually gets more interesting and a little more valuable given. The Sony Michelle might be No on the men still or on the you know he suddenly Michelle I mean there's a non zero chance you got popped just kind of news that I tonight right? Exactly. Jalen Hurd this is the guy that you liked in the pre-draft process, a couple of years ago the Baylor transfer that was at Tennessee right? Or my flip-flopping those Tennessee and they went to Baylor. He was running back at Tennessee. Five star recruits coming back and then because he wanted to have a longer NFL curry transferred to Baylor and and became a wide receiver. And, now, he's a wide receiver for the niners got shelled early on I are this year people letting him slip are are people penalizing him in draft too far because of that I don't. I. Don't know if they are I mean because then they took brandon I asked the niners said and heard always supposed to be one of those Swiss army knife type weapons which. Is generally urinating and not useful enough for fantasy. So even though it is best ball say Oh gee, on her Three rushes for twelve yards and you know one catch for six yards. That's not so impressive and punt return or something like that. But having said all that I mean he is i. mean he's like six five to twenty five. He's a big dude and he can catch. He's talented. He was a former five star recruit when you're in the sixteenth round and you have a devoted injured in a rookie I. think that I don't think it's a bad ticket all actually I prefer I actually much prefer to kill Harry pick but I think hurts okay. One of the things that met Waldman has said on the football guys audible podcast. Before when you talk about gadget players, you know what happens to gadgets at in your own house they often fall between the couch cushions and then you can never use them again because he can't find and that's it. He so I mean. That's pretty good. He kinda has this distaste in his mouth when a coach called somebody a gadget player because the as you stated Dave, oftentimes, it won't work out well for a fantasy purposes. Yeah. You want to have a defined role for your players I. Mean at least you don't have to pick and choose to start you know start in this format plan. chase play pool kicks off the penultimate round here tonight from PJ number four. This is the fat boy swim Division League. Excuse me that you're listening to on the H.. S. F.. GOING GONNA. No. No. Come on. I, corrected myself I didn't need any prodding Klay Pool to, and by the way that was a rip on the KFC not the state of Kentucky for any of our players who live in Kentucky after visions don't have, right? Yes. Chase Klay pool at the seventeen o one tonight. Jimmy Graham Right. After that. The seventeen O to pick to Josh Hayes. Corey Davis off the board to Paul details at the seventeen on three pair running back here. Dave devante Freeman to Evans Silva Justin. Jackson. To Frank, Pratt after that, and then you got a couple of wide receivers. So this is the unemployment round. I think you have Antonio Brown going off the board you Todd Pavlik was that how Pablo took? No that was John Paul. John Paul's and Todd Pavlik took Dede Westbrook trae Burton off the board Shane Hallam followed by Hunter Renfro, the Las Vegas Slot Receiver Catching off the board after Trae Burt, and then you have tyrod Taylor. The number three quarterback drafted by Jeremy Browne viscous Chenault is the second to last player selected in the seventeenth round my chandler and dolphins supremo Peter over that continues going back taking. Water out of that wide receiver well, still not drained. It has James Washington as the final pick of the seventeenth. Wrong. This was the player that I wanted to talk to you about earlier dave and I guess we can lump both of these guys into this conversation now that we had to jaguars receivers off the board in this round, you talked about how you like Dj Charq, earlier, and I'm curious as to thinking or get your thinking in Best Ball format where you're trying to get pockets of goodness and locking these these these players up would you be looking to pair dj chart with either of these seventh-round receivers in Westbrook or Chanel? Yeah maybe I, mean. Out of those, you know the forest here selected their rent for the best and I would. So if I own char and they were all there, I would still take renfrew over westbrook and not trying to get cute. But then I would say I would say, Westbrook over Chenault Myself I just feel like you know he's got he's a veteran presence and he has a better shot of L. producing channel I guess my. Point is here on this. If you do get chart early in I, don't WanNa, put words in your mouth. You're not necessarily looking to get westbrook or Chenault later pair with that's correct I don't really personally care that much I don't think either one of them is all that like outstanding are I don't think there's a huge bonuses. So he's doing it. She get an alternate rookie dress. How at least one maybe two. devante Freeman does not have a job Antonio. Brown does not have a job and it was it was never suspension looming right? Did you see was eight? Yeah. Looming, assess emphasized. Yeah he is. Assess impending, serving the suspension as looming. Serving it right now technically Okay. So here's what I wanted to bring up here with with these two players. I am much more likely to take a chance on the bhante Freeman niamh on Antonio Brown. Even given that Freeman has the limited ceiling I am not an Antonio Brown Guy Twenty Twenty Freeman I could kinda see although I probably would've looked elsewhere. Yeah I agree with you. There I mean You know. Yeah and Tony Brown for eight teams is that because I do think he's GonNa get signed and picked up some but then he's supposed to such a flake. Yeah yeah. I think I'm looking at I think I would again we're taking renfrew over Antonio Brown. He went after him I would have taken the honestly I like Josh Reynolds pick which we didn't talk about yet. But I, like I like that pick also by the same owner over Antonio Brown. So. There's no no no, I. Don't I'm not trying to look for the Reynolds pick. Are you when the eighteen? So yeah. Okay. Yeah. No I I was I was looking at the wrong end of the board on that. Nicely at night same owner with without further ado let's get to the sorry I ruined. This is that's okay. Don't worry about it IRV. Drafts, you only picked off a couple of players. All right. So combat to eighteen is the eighteen o one pick for Peter overs that he higgins after that to the Supreme Dan. The Jeremy Brown Josh Reynolds, as Dave just mentioned Josh Reynolds goes off the Board met growth trio of running backs. It has Jerick McKinnon to Shane Hallam. It is Gus Edwards to todd. Pavlik it is. Carlos Hyde to John Paulson. Love that pick and miles boykin right after that to Frank Pratt Darwin Thomson, chiefs running back making a another chiefs running back. Excuse me making an appearance by Evan Silva here, and then a three receivers to ended JJ Arteaga whiteside goes off the board to Paul. Detachment, followed by. Tyrone Williams another good pick here in the eighteenth and Quintas CPAs the rookie receiver from Wisconsin going to Robbie Russell to and things up here Dave and process joe number four is in the books I. I was thinking that you Carlos I pick was nice. That would've been a nice pick for over and the thing. So cal combat with me is he's kind of. Living in the USA on it you WANNA get three tight ends but. With Henry and her Hopkinson you could just roll with them and thrown high into. Your is your RV mix. I'm with on that I. I think I would have made more sense quite frankly some standalone value I think Jerick McKinnon could made more sense there than co basically anybody but call I do he's a he's a tight end. He's a rookie tight end and I never really liked him all that much in the pre-draft process. And he he was a one year semi wonder at Notre Dame. That's true. That's another yards and three or four touchdowns or something like that and again I don't even know the staff they were not impressive. Yeah. We're not as as the kids say. All right. So let's Let's talk about this Dave I'm just getting my team by team. Process lined up here. And I'm trying to fit it all to the coconut forty three catches for five hundred and fifteen yards in six. As a senior and that was only like salad you're okay. So we were pretty fair enough. All right. So let's get into team analysis. Kick things off with Robbie Russell here. quarterbacks are Marie and Cam Newton running backs, quite Edwards Allaire de Andrea Swift James, White. Chase Edmunds Rockwell, armstead receivers, Mike Evans Portland Sutton CD lamb Anthony Miller chase. Klay Pool, and Quintas. and. Then you have tight ends being Zach Ertz, Evan Ingram no offense checked oil and debonair. Chiesi they've to me a little bit of overkill on the tight ends cost them needed depth at running back and wide receiver here it's got a lot of rookies and young players that if they break out or you know are not bus, certainly, this team could be one to be tangled with I just I the the difficult part for me on this and and I know Robert explained us when he called in I still am t McCaffrey at the one on one just can't get. There and that's why it's preventing me from giving a glowing recommendation of this of this team here. Yeah, I mean the receiver jobs is just not up to snuff and then by taking that verse. Hilar-. In and then you know swift as your number two, there's so much uncertainty at running back I'm looking elsewhere for a favorite team in the in this we Josh Hayes from row baller Patrick Mahomes, Daniel Jones Kirk cousins at quarterback running back. Christian. McCaffrey. David. Johnson Levian Bell various guys and REX burkhead wide receivers. Decay Metcalf Brandin Cooks Shot Pyramid had. Jerry Judy, then zone mims and Tyro Williams tight end Greg Olsen Towel Rudolph and Jimmy. Graham they I I don't with Patrick Mahomes I would not have taken a third quarterback running back. Corps is really really good here wide receiver I think Lance terrorists is pointing this out in the chat room. There's a lot of speed among these receivers that he's got his team depth there too much of this building to depth that these positions was that the cost of tight end he waited until round eleven to take his first one and Rudolf and Graham, not passing the test for me. Yeah, he really got penalized around town when that second here's Fred Enron, hit and because he had been taking, you know Paran. Rugs Judy. And I don't know I'm not saying he caught him by surprise breath think he really should address a position earlier and it did it did Kinda hurt him. Man Getting leaving on in the fifth round is so outstanding McCaffrey David Johnson Levy on belt with the homes there steers turn out. Great. If he can any type of production out of Olsen Real, you might have you might have a shot I don't know that I can count on it though it's probably going to need some production out of those three rookie receivers to like one of those probably have to hit in order for him to have a dominant team here. Paul. In here at the third spot, Dave Watson Jimmy Garoppolo Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback running back Saquon Barkley. Todd. Gurley Chris Carson J Dobbins Jordan Howard Sony Michelle at running back. Receivers are deandre Hopkins Christian Kirk McColl Harden Mike Williams Corey Davis, Jj data whiteside, and then Darren Waller Antonio Excuse me Austin Hooper and Tyler I for I think the quarterback and running backs are a really good. I. Think the tight ends are good to is he going to get enough spike weeks from receiver? The receiver position. My guess is no but who knows? I mean. His you know. So he's got first of all he is watching is really great Waller, and Hooper you know I for whatever. So while we're hooper also great wanting backs outstanding Barclay girly Carson Dobbin Howard and even throw. Solo but he was six running back. So he's clearly looking at starting Hopkins Kirk and then getting little bit production out of the Hardman Mike. Williams and so forth I like the team a lot I mean there's running backs are so outstanding. It's just it's tufted I mean Jordan Howard starting running back for the dolphins. So he's got five starting back on the shelf for the Patriots four and a half five and a half whatever it is I think these mcquaid themselves very well here you know I don't. Love Love Love Hopkins by mean still hundred freaking Hopkins. So when you have that as inker wide receiver I. Think you're in pretty good shape I like seem quite about Evan Silva from established the run has Dak Prescott Derek Carr quarterback running back Ezekiel. Elliott. Aaron. Jones a carry Kerryon Johnson Duke Johnson Devante Freeman and Darwin Thomson Receivers Amari Cooper Terry McLaren will fuller Jamison crowder Brandon Curtis Samuel Golden Tate Titans Robin Rakowski Dallas Guard and Blake Darwin, and this is a good balance team here by by that. Drafted you know it's funny as is the receivers on the surface and he drafted a couple that that I usually stay away from but I mean if they work out I, think his his quarterbacks and tight ends they're gonNA, be good and then he just needs he needs to production from Kerryon Johnson as he waited to take him as his number three running back until round eleven. Do Johnson's pass catching chops will help devante Freeman. If you get signs will will help I just don't know how much. Yeah like. A bit. Tight ends worked out well for him. Dak Prescott was good too. I mean overall team like you said, it's well-balanced. Value to carry on Andrew Johnson so I assume overall quite about good nice job Frank Lu. Pratt Lamar. Jackson. And Philip rivers are his signal callers, Alvin Kamara David Montgomery Ronald Jones Antonio Gibson. Darrow Henderson Justin Jackson at running back receivers Julio Jones Odell. Beckham Michael. Gallup. Preston Williams Paris Campbell Robbie Anderson Miles Boykin. Tight ends are Jared Cook turned and Gerald Everett. I like what he did at tight end despite waiting until round eight to to grab one I, think the three that he got are solid quarterbacks obviously more than good I liked the top four receivers for sure and then he's he's got some potential with the receivers after that The question for me on this team is is the running back position chimeras obviously going to be great but then you look at Montgomery potential Timeshare Jones potential tonsure Antonio. Gibson, I don't know what's going on with Washington and then Darryl. Henderson is obviously gonNA need some help with the camakers injury to be relevant. So for me, the question is running backs, but again I think this is a pretty good. Pretty. well-balanced. Team. Yeah I mean. I think you know running backs Chimera, my around Jones, and then receivers Julio. Beckham, Gallup. So is your top six right? That's pretty good. I mean. But the thing is the thing it's easy for us to forget is that he still has Lamar Jackson in the third round. So when you have a guy that gets a he gets a quarterback and then he gets like like three quarters of a running back on top of it when. You really starting ten positions. It's pretty good. I, mean really he kinda snuck it's almost stuck Lamar Jackson in Seoul ended up with a pretty good team with all the Max. A regular quarterback I like the way it worked out for him pressing Williams Nice pick I like his team overall quite a bit as well. I thought miles. Boykin. The eighteenth round second round player or second-year player has got a shot to do. Something John Paulson from four four dot com next Carson wentz and Ryan Tannehill at quarterback Austin Echlert, James Connor Kevin Coleman Latavius Murray Josh Kelley, and Carlos Hyde running back receivers. Robert. Woods Tyler Lockett devante Parker Aj Green Marvin Jones Allen Lazard Michael Pittman Antonio Brown the tight ends are Travis Kelsey and Thomas Dave I felt he went a little overboard at wide receiver, but it didn't really cost them anywhere and you know when? You Take Kelsey early I. I would only take one tight end after that I think Wentz and Tannahill. Hill I mean there there's some concern there. But at least he got two quarterbacks and the running backs here you need some production from Tevin Coleman. But if Chimera goes down, you have murray if acres goes down, you have Kelly INCR-. If Carson goes down, you have hides there's certainly some upside with those running backs late. yeah. I mean. Part of the thing with me with his trip, his team is the receivers the top four guys that are kind of on my list a generally not not there. I don't ever take them. But I don't really ever take them so I don't know whatever reason i. I guess I would never take just don't ever take him. So I I don't I I would never take these guys except for when I actually do summertime enforcer woodlock it Parker Aj green past past fast past. So you know it's Har- John might have awesome team, and if he does that means my rankings are mostly wrong year is that right? Yeah. So it's cool. It's all good I mean I. Think. It's construction was fine though I mean taking a tight end early in the waiting and getting once and then that spot was really nice job them for what it's worth four for four has had some of the best most accurate redraft rankings over the years ago. So we'll. We'll find out I mean, maybe maybe they're really good at running back but not receiver we'll find out all right moving on here. We, wrong. Well, I mean if anybody could be at this point, we're just all just it's all speculation Russell Wilson and Ben Rothlisberger at quarterback Nick Chubb Mark Ingram Marlin Mac Chris Thomson Leshan McCoy Benny Snow and Gus Edwards at running back wide receivers, Michael Thomas. Juju Smith Schuster Cooper Cup Sterling, Shepherd Justin Jefferson Sammy Watkins and Dede Westbrook tight ends are Hayden Hurst and Eric E. Bron this this squad. Dave I I'm a little worried at the tight end up i. think he did a pretty good job taking these running backstabs late I just don't know if it's enough You know when you have trouble Ingram as your as you're starting to running back and then receivers the top of your great I. I'm not a big shepard Jefferson or Westbrook I do like to walk ins pick later though. Actually with Todd. Tell a high stakes player in on a pro because she she did a nice job assembled. You know the way he put the position together with touchdowns and quarterback I thought he did an excellent job there. So if you don't like her Iran while now it's problem getting worse is the. Guy. Laid. Here Wilson same thing he's the last quarterback out of those top six. So I I actually like team turned out I have maybe taken a few different players in the spots where he took let's say Ingram, I would've taken moster single terry he takes shop I would have taken your Jones but that's just personal preference over like team turned out if his rankings are we talked. To Shane Hallam earlier. Here's how his team ended up. Tonight Jared Goff drew lock in to a tunnel by lower at quarterback running backs Josh Jacobs Leonard for that he moster Philip Lindsey Damian Harris and Jerick McKinnon Receivers Kenny golladay pilot boy the Andre Johnson Emmanuel Sanders deebo Samuel, Steven Sims, and then the tight ends are George title and Smith. All Entry Burton excuse me as well. I don't WanNa play favorites. This actually might be my favorite teams thus far. Chain article quarterback bellator spoke right and that's why it's probably what is and I'm not just saying it because Shane called in tonight. You know I look at all this picks and they all actually make sense the net and most our values. It's hard for me to get over that and. That's Like boy I love the onto Johnson. But I mean I find if he does cool but I mean all like all the Lindsay in that in that spot is a good tech so. Samuels Nice icepick Gaming Harris makes sense and then the McKinnon most connections yeah. I mean it's just it's it's a well-crafted team I. Agree with you I'd like to see him a lot on you know Shane Shane p how your willingness illness workout 'cause just looking at this just want WanNa make one final comment about Shane's team. Dave in a year where the off seasons weird and we're going those movie in a year in it off season. That's basically none existed to football Shane. Follows a lot. He he he writes and talks about dynasty and Debbie. Leagues, that that that is his job. Right? Coke Zero Rookies. Yeah. It's smart. I think that's very I think that's kind of what we've advocated and again you can take some. Few rookie here and there. But if you're team has six works eighteen, you might have some problems. All right. So moving on here to Matt Growth talked to him earlier to Tom Brady Matthew Stafford and Gardner mentioned at quarterback Dalvin Cook Joe Mixing Devon Single Terry to Rico and Alexander Madison at running back. Receivers are Adam Feeling T. Y.. Hilton. Jarvis. Landry John Brown Sean. Jackson Hunter Renfro and Josh Reynolds Tight ends are Mark Andrews Mike Sick and Oj Howard. They've just as I. Say I think I like Shane's team best. We may have a new winter here because I think Matt Gross team is really really good as well. Yeah. He he me every pick was really he was super strong I mean. I. Liked I like the Reynolds and and Renfro picks up the end of the draft. I mean everything everything solid I like his team top to bottom. Really I can't. I can't find anything wrong with it. I. Think what neither he by the way he did get gifted value right I. Can't control third round and the fifth round, and maybe some other owns I'm paying attention to you I don't know if I would have taken a third tied on maybe that that's the and that's I'm picking nits here. Would you our that pick and Blah Blah I'm not saying it sucked I just I don't know if I would have done that or whatever given he had andrews in just sixty, but he did bring the diabetic thing with Andrew which makes sense Jeremy Browne. Dynasty football factory here is Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, and tyrod Taylor at quarterback is Derrick Henry Jonathan Taylor Melvin Gordon Tony Pollard Anthony McFarland and Yeah. At running back there tyreek Hill Stefan digs, Keenan Allen Daria Slayton, Jalen Rigor, and Jalen her back to back Jalen there at wide receiver and tight ends are Johnny. Smith Dawson knocks in Dan. Arnold wasn't that there. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. What if Dan Arnold Show? Yeah Anyway. Every. Time I. See that name that's what I think of There's one player who I always see her name. I think if somebody like that but I am. I'll find it I find. All right. So just assessing this team here obviously, I'm GonNa like it since he went back to back stub Wisconsin running backs here in the third and fourth round with Jonathan Taylor on that you agree, yeah that's the one that was missing I like the receivers on this squad tight ends aren't my favorite, but to get awesome knocks in the thirteenth, I I like it but he probably will need a breakout from either Smith or Knox here to be competitive especially with that position. Yes receivers are pretty strong to tyreek hill digs, Allen Darius Slayton, and then the jailings of those guys. I can't tell you can't really count them. No, you can't So you see he's GonNa be I think he might be. He might have to worry about the flex a little bit if there's a single injuries to his team. So I, think that's my concern. It's so Chandler Dalton supreme the penultimate team we're GONNA talk about tonight here Dave drew brees, Joe Borough and Sam Darnold quarterback running backs or miles sanders Kenyan Drake Kareem Hunt Matt Breda Ca Sean von the hime hines receivers Dj more Allen Robinson, Marquees Brown, Julian, Edelman, La viscous t higgins, tons, or Tyler Higby, Jay Stern Burger, and we'll. Item and changing my mind again, this is my pretty underwriter and here's why we were talking about. Here's why there are so many players on this team that I have talked up on the H. F. Our over the course of this off season I've talked Dj more Allen Robinson Kareem Hunt Julian Adamant Matt Brita Jay. Stern. Burger team Hines, all these players you're listening to the show they well, you must listen to me they just you out apparently I mean you like some of those players as well but I just I really like this is a team that I could not only see myself drafting. Team construction-wise I could see my self drafting it player wise. I mean there's a lot of players that really like now, there's a couple of duds that I don't like feel but that's true of everybody. We'll all running backs pass catchers if you look at it Sanders Drake Aunt Brita. Heinz every one of them there's no big bruisers. Are you know none of those guys in there? Yeah. I agree with you for the most part they do I mean, let's keep in mind they do need the Burger or justly leads to release. You know they hate me half to stay the course if he doesn't there in some deep trouble. It's Like. Don't worry about that. Yeah. I mean come on man it's like. He's in Wisconsin Guy. Sternberg. Wisconsin. The sounds eats brought and stuff but For the packers to he doesn't hasn't done much yet. So I mean, let's not get to stir crazy here well that that happened for me in like February. Discern. Actually I went stemberger crazy after the packers did not take tight under the draft. Yeah. I mean I. Guess They took the war but they didn't take a first or second round tied on anyhow. It's it's a nice team f like it rounding things up tonight here with the twelfth pick is four for four as Peter overset. He gets Matt Ryan Aaron Rodgers as quarterbacks. Camakers Zach Moss Boston Scott. Aj Dylan deandre Washington Barrington Evans at running back receivers are Davante Adams Chris Godwin Aj Brown Calvin Ridley DJ Chart Nikki Harry James Washington tight ends are many TJ Hopkinson and coal comex. Dave we we talked about this team. It I. Think it. It went according to what overs that was gonNA happen. The question is, can he get fortunate enough with a lot of these backup R- running back so they took if he does think he's GonNa be okay. like the tight ends and The you know the quarterback's are are going to be steady at ease as well. Yeah I mean this is not the way I would have drafted this team like he he had a strategy if there's a lot of running back injuries and works out with acres, he could be in really good shape. There's definitely standalone Value Zach Moss Boston Scott maybe AJ Dylan endearing Evans is already getting talked up a it as a pass catcher in that in that backfield. So he might have some standalone value I actually liked is I thought that kill Harry and James Washington picks receiver Sense. If. You have those top guys. A lot of times people go so-called called. Take four they like twelve rounds then everybody else's total garbage on the screen. Yeah. So I think he was thoughtful in that in that. So I give Peterson credit for that. Overall seem turned out pretty good I. Mean I it's hard to like it as much as some of the other ones that are more well-balanced but it's a good nice squad over on it has a shot and Pete for sure and that's the point either go bigger home right and that's what they do here too far out of my comfort zone for best ball slim draft for me absolutely love this team day but I do recognize the firepower and the ammunition that is simmering. And and saw king under over that's watch them could end up taking out the other eleven owners. And that is the action completed tonight here for pros vs joes number four, fat boy slim I wanNA. Thank my callers tonight. My Guess Matt Growth Shane Hallam Robbie Russell Good luck you guys this season WanNa think Armani. They've got the F. 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Overhaul either equals who are over clear issue. Yeah. But I mean with with the additional assets that you could get by trading down eight may have them independently of the this last point because he was one of the trade which I would not do I mean he was willing to trade down from one to one or two just even getting a second, which I would not do I would require the first. All Right you like Jonathan in early drafts I I got to tell her in a few spots one league for future I to move up to the one oh seven from the one twelve because Taylor was inexplicably still there I traded with our friend Jeff bossie corn fans in the fantasy sharply. Giving up twenty twenty, one I from the one twelve to one seven getting that to Taylor. I have three drafts this week and I didn't trade any first round picks Dave One oh, one, one or two and I think one eleven. One of those teams is doing better than the other two. That right now that's all right. Talking nine central tomorrow. 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