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It's your journey. Welcome, everyone, to SI Media with Jimmy Traina. Thank you so much for listening. The usual periodic check in with Andrew Marchand from the New York Post this week. He joined the pod to talk about a variety of topics in sports media. We get into the ABC ESPN Monday Night Football staggered star double headers. We get into how ESPN and the ESPN and Pat McAfee marriage is going. Deion Sanders stuff. How the media has handled Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. What's going on with WWE and Monday Night Raw most likely looks like it's going to be on the move. Andrew had some stuff on that. A couple of things about local New York radio. So a bunch of sports media topics with Andrew Marchand on this episode. And then Salicata joins me as he does every week for our train of thought segment. Where we get into some NFL things about the Eagles. Should the NFL ban the Eagles one yard play. Joe Namath and Lou Holtz making headlines. Get into these ridiculous prop bets on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. And Sal has a rough Sunday coming up. So if you're a fan of the train of thought segment, you'll want to hear that. Before we get to the full episode. I want you to make sure you listen to past episodes. If you've missed any and make sure you subscribe to us. I media Jimmy trainer. We've had a great run of guests. Kevin Clark from ESPN was on the show last week. Scott Hansen hosted the NFL Red Zone channel two weeks ago. Julian Edelman three weeks ago. Charles Barkley, Peter Schrager, Chris Russo, all recent guests. So if you missed any of those, give them a listen, download, subscribe to the pod and leave a review on Apple. We'll read it on an upcoming episode. All right. Andrew Marchand from the New York Post, followed by Salicata and train of thought. It's all coming up right now, right here. On S .I. media with Jimmy trainer. All right, training me now. S .I. media podcast regular. This periodic visit from the New York Post. And the March and Iran podcast is Andrew Marchand. Andrew, how are you? I'm good. How you doing, Jimmy? I'm good. I just realized I didn't put my phone on do not disturb. So I'm going to do that as we speak. And I'm going to let you know that I had a reader last week for my mailbag column on S .I. com, send it an email and said, when is Marchand's next appearance? So here we go. You made someone happy. Thank you that person. You made someone happy by coming on today. Let's start with this. A lot of media news to get to. Have you heard anything from ESPN or do you have any intel about how they feel about the last two weeks? How the staggered Monday Night Football doubleheader has gone? Because I've gotten a lot of emails and tweets about it. I'm sure you have as well. Yeah, I haven't talked to anybody specifically about how they feel about it. I mean, it is an NFL decision. ESPN is not in control of how those games are scheduled. Maybe they have some say, but it's the NFL decision. Yeah, I don't like it. Actually, in our podcast with John, it was my who's down this week. And the reason I just feel like I kind of said this on our part, it's too it's like having two quarterbacks and you have none. Right. And now if you have Joe Montana and Steve Young, there are two awesome games. Maybe that'd be better. But I just find my attention split and I don't know. And even at like halftime, I wouldn't recommend you go to the other game. Like I get what they're trying to do there, but it's not the NCAA tournament. And usually it's in like the second quarter, third quarter. So I personally don't think it really works that well. Now, I think they want to avoid I'm not positive, but I think they want to avoid that 10 30 late window. We used to get the Monday night and you get the, you know, crazy crew, either Chris Berman or Golick and Greenberg, you know, some of those crews back in the day. They probably don't want that late night game where, you know, you're losing that East Coast audience if it gets too late. But I don't know. I don't think this necessarily works. See, I like it. And what are the tweet? What are the tweeters say? Most people seem to not like it. Yeah. And why do you like it? The more the merrier. Give me as much football as possible. If I can watch eight games at one o 'clock on Sunday and four or five games at four o 'clock on Sunday, I can handle two games on Monday night. So, you know, I have two TVs. I put one game on each TV and two is better than one for me. That's just how I feel. Yeah, I've been a little running around these last couple of Mondays when this happened. So I may be a little bit, you know, my opinion skewed a little bit by that. It hasn't just been like I'm just chilling and watching, been running around a little bit. So perhaps that's, you know, maybe I could be swayed. I will say, you know, I don't know. This is a whole separate discussion. I would love to know your take on this, but I always feel like it's a little tough sometimes to criticize people in this podcast when I also have to book this podcast. So I try to be careful. Yeah, I notice you're very soft. That's what you're trying to say. Sometimes. So I'm sure this guy will never come on again, but they gotta do better than Chris Fowler on the secondary game. Just not, it's just not working. Chris is not a great play -by -player. Right. He was a great host, studio host. Can I say one thing? Yeah. He's on tremendous tennis. Like I watch the U .S. Open every single day. I think he's great on tennis. It's football where it's just something feels off. Well, tennis is also slower. And like you look at people who do really well at the slower sports. Like, you know, Jim Nantz is better than Chris Fowler, but Nantz is really his best thing is golf. And I think he's an OK NFL play -by -player. And at the end of his college basketball run, he was definitely, I don't know, OK is probably, you know, he was OK there as well. And I think if you look at Fowler and his history, now he's been doing play -by -play for a while now. And he has gotten better. Like when he first started on the number one crew, I mean, if I were covering it then, that would not, I probably would not have been that kind. Because he has gotten better, but it's not really good enough. And he's the rare case, I think with Herb Street, that Herb Street makes him better. Usually it's the play -by -player who makes the analyst better. And yeah, I think you're right. And I also think, you know, in fairness to Fowler, you know, ESPN put that crew together. They replaced Levy there and they had a year or two under their belt together as a team. And, you know, not the full team, but him and Riddick, Levy and Riddick, and then Jadolowski. And I think they kind of don't, they underestimate chemistry. It takes time to build it up. And so I think that hurts. And he just, he's a college guy too. It's hard just to come into the NFL. I know he, you know, he's talked how hard his schedule is with the U .S. Open. And then, you know, doing a game a couple days later. And then doing a college. And so, you know, that's hard. And so, yeah, he's not a tremendous play -by -player. To me, this is just me, it felt like when ESPN gave him that gig, it was more about ESPN trying to impress the NFL. Like, look, we have our number one college game. Like you had said earlier, the secondary Monday night game for years was, you know, Golic and Greenberg and Chris Berman with a cast of character. Rich Ryan did it one year. I think this is ESPN trying to say to the NFL, because now they have a Super Bowl and they have this big contract. And, you know, they brought in Buck and Aikman. Like, we're serious, we're going to take our, regardless of what you think about Fowler, he's their lead college guy. So, I feel like they're like, oh, look at us, we're putting the lead when, you know, that. Yeah, I think they screwed up and I think they know they screwed up. I think that they ended up shifting who was in charge of the NFL. It was Stephanie Drewley. And they moved her off the NFL after, you know, I think that didn't help her cause in terms of staying on the NFL. I think they were satisfied with Levy. He was a good guy, which they value. After they brought in Joe Buck, he was very gracious. You know, Levy's a very good hockey guy, especially studio host. I thought he could have, you know, could have been the pregame show on Monday Night Football. He's in, again, not their, in my opinion, they had other people who are better play -by -players for football, but it was good. Like, so, yeah, I don't think it was to impress the NFL. They got Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. They got the Mannings. I mean, they spend, they're spending 50, 60 million dollars a year on their booths. Like, I don't think the second team booth is gonna, you know. If anything, I think it was, there was a thought before Buck and Aikman that Fallon and Herb Street might get the NFL. Might get Monday Night Football. Might get the potential Super Bowl. And then this is kind of a carrot since they didn't get it. But I'd argue, and I even talked to Chris Fowler about this. So, I don't know if this is the case. I just don't know if, I mean, Chris Fowler does the national championship. He does the biggest college game every week for Disney. I can't, like, I get it. Maybe he wanted to do NFL. But is this really gonna satisfy him because you're doing a second game, which generally aren't that great? I don't, I don't see that long -term, personally. And I think also, strategically, if I'm ESPN, I'm putting a young play -by -player. Now, Joe Buck, we both think it's great. Like, he and Ian Eagle are the best two play -by -players going right now. And, um, but, Joe Buck's contract's up in a couple of years. If I'm ESPN, and I, you know, I think they'll probably re -sign Joe Buck, and they should. That said, he makes a lot of money. And, you know, I would be saying, who can I develop? What young guy can I develop? So when I go into that negotiation, I really have somebody who's on the rise. And I can say, hey, look, you don't want this, you know, the 15 million a year? Then we'll go here, you know? But if you start demanding, I'm not saying this is going to happen, but, demanding even more and more money, I'd want an option. I don't think they've created an option. They've actually put somebody in that spot who they've already said they'd rather spend 15 million dollars on Joe Buck than have Chris Fowler as the lead play -by -player. So, I just think negotiation -wise, and strategically, in terms of saving money, it wasn't a great decision. Yeah. I don't understand the insistence on the three -person booth, either. They had Fowler, Greasy, and Riddick. Excuse me, excuse me. Levy, Riddick, Greasy. Now it's Fowler or Lofsky, Riddick. To me, that, and, Fowler's used to a two -person booth with Herb Street. They have Buck and Aikman, which is a two -person booth. I don't understand the insistence on the three -person booth. It's just, for football, it just, I don't get it, but, that's just my - It complicates, it over -complicates it. Yeah. And like you said, chemistry. I think it's much harder to develop a chemistry with three. I mean, you know, the local Mets situation is different with Gary Cohn, Ron Darl - Is it in baseball, is it football? What three men, can you name - I mean, I guess back in the old Monday Night Football days, there were three men booths that had - Yeah, Collinsworth and Aikman with Buck that one year. Yeah, one year it lasted, you know. So, I don't know. But, there's no more staggered double -headers. The next one is week 14, and both games will start at 8 -15. I think that's the one that's going to piss a lot of people off. But, that's a long way down the road. You got the two TVs. Yeah. I asked you if ESPN, how they feel about Monday Night Football. Anything you've heard about how they feel about their new partnership with Pat McAfee. I mean, it's early, but they're bullish on it. I mean, they've kind of handed the keys to the network to McAfee. I mean, you can't - it's kind of like Stephen A. now. You can't really turn on ESPN almost every day except basically Sunday without seeing Pat. And so, you know, I think initially the ratings weren't that good. I think they got a little better in terms of the TV ratings. I think that kind of makes some sense because if you think about it, he was a YouTube show. Yeah, he's got to play for TV. Yeah, and he's still a YouTube show. Well, it is a play for TV because they think that they had Max in there before. They think that the ratings will be high enough that they'll be able to charge more for the ad rates. I guarantee you the money they'll make off of McAfee on social media and YouTube will be 8 billion times more than the money they made off Max Kellerman on social media. Oh, 100%. No, you're right. No, you're right. There's no doubt about that. And look, they want to get, I will say this, like, does it work? I think a lot of times when companies make big moves, you know, big time moves, a lot of times they make those moves when the person's kind of towards the end, you know, they got McAfee on the rise. Like, you know, we, you know, you and I have been aware of McAfee for years now, but he's really like, you know, here, I don't think he's at the plateau, you know, where most people go up and then they plateau and then they go down. He's at, he's still, I think, going up and then maybe the plateau is on the horizon and you can plateau for 20, 25 years if you have the right attitude and personality and just have the right act. So that's where I think that makes a lot of sense as a bet because it's not, I'll hit one close to home, Rick Riley leaving ESPN. I mean, leaving SI for ESPN where, you know, Rick Riley is one of the great columnist ever, but at that point, you know, whatever, maybe it was the internet, I don't know exactly. It just didn't really work as well at ESPN as it did at SI. And so I just think they've done that and that's kind of, you know, teams do that in sports and I think sometimes networks do that. And so I feel like signing McAfee in his mid -30s is kind of like signing a baseball free agent who's in his mid -20s and I think that's what you want to do as opposed to getting a, signing a 35 -year -old and, you know, thinking they can still play, you know, like, I don't know, like a Josh Donaldson, maybe trading for someone like that, Jimmy. You see what I did there? I don't need reminders of the horrific Yankee season. I just did that on purpose. I don't need that. My head was going, who am I going to say? All right, yeah, Josh Donaldson, but it was a treat. Just a, yeah, you want me to say Brian Cashman should be fired. It's amazing too, they replay that. I didn't know this was going to be the situation going into it, but they replay the show as soon as it's over, I think, on ESPN 2 and then they replay it at night on maybe ESPN News or one of their, what you said about if you're going to put on one of the ESPNs at any point in the day, you're going to see Pat McAfee. Yeah. So that's good for him. Like I, you know, people feel like - But I also think, ESPN has to be, they have Aaron Rodgers on their air every week. It's a news making thing that's on their air every week. They've got Nick, he's got Nick Saban on his show every week. Yeah. That's a news making thing every week. I would think ESPN has to be, forget the numbers because the numbers, I think, will be there. It's still a new thing. You have, the ESPN audience is older, the McAfee audience is younger, it might take some, but I would think ESPN just on the brand and the cachet of that show has to be thrilled. I think so. I mean, but if you talk, like I have, again, I'll probably make some calls here in the near future, but so I haven't talked specifically with anybody about that. But generally speaking, when these things first start, everyone loves it. So then we'll see. Again, I'm not saying, I could see it either way. Like, you know, McAfee has not really stayed at any of these, throughout any of these contracts he's had. So that's something to watch. Maybe this one he does, but that hasn't been the case previously. So that is something. I think the fact that he's on game day has to help the relationship there a little bit with ESPN. Here's the thing about McAfee. If you're managing him, in my opinion, and it's like Casey Jones, the former coach of the Celtics, was known for just throwing out the ball and telling McHale, Parrish, and Bird to go play, Dennis Johnson. At least that's how I remember as a kid. That was his reputation. And I think McAfee is sort of like that. Just give him the ball, let him do his thing. He's not looking to, you know, for some strategy. Let's, you know, triangle offense. He's not looking for that. He's looking for, let me do my thing. I know what I'm doing. And the thing about McAfee is he's very smart. Like, I know he plays this, like, he's not smart thing. It works very hard. He works hard and he's very smart. He's very savvy. He acts as if, like, you know, maybe he's, you know, just a dumb jock. But he understands the media business very well. We need, we need to discuss the Kelsey Taylor Swift thing because I actually think it's a legitimate media story. If Fox is going to get these increase in their demographics of the female audience, the young people, the NFL has gone all in on this thing. I mean, they changed their Twitter header to, like, a Taylor Swift thing. They're putting out Travis Kelsey Swiftiest plays on their social media. He's gained, I guess, a ton of followers, the jersey sale. Let me start with this. How did you think Fox handled it on Sunday when she was in the stadium? Do you think they overdid it? Do you think the fact that they had an unwatchable game takes them off the hook? What was your take on the Chiefs -Bears on Sunday when she was there? I think the second part, and I wouldn't take them off the hook, but I think the second part, you have an unwatchable game that you had to switch most of the country out of because it was so non -competitive, that you have Taylor Swift there, it's a big deal. And, you know, there's a lot of Taylor Swift fans who are football fans, a lot of non -Taylor Swift fans who weren't watching that game, but it was a talking point, right? Like, I saw Taylor Swift in the concert this summer, but that was kind of - Look at you! Yeah, how do you like that? Look at you! You couldn't even get tickets. Big shot. Where'd you get tickets? My daughter's friend just won the lottery. No shenanigans. Oh, really? Tickets were $235 each, which is still a lot of money, but not, like, $1 ,000. And it was just kind of happenstance, how I ended up going. I was going to say, if your daughter's friend got tickets, how did you end up at the era's tour? I mean - Were you, like - It's just a long drive to get to the metal lands, didn't want them driving back. They're older, they can drive, but at, you know, one o 'clock in the morning from Taylor Swift, so - But you were in MetLife and watched the show. Yes. Friendship bracelets? Well, you want to know something funny? This is a good one. So, my daughter's friend said to me, do you want a - do you want a jewel? And I'm like, no, no, no, I'm okay. Thinking she's saying a jewel, like a jewel, smoke. But she was saying, like, to, like, get bedazzled, a little jewel, which I would have taken. So later, I was like, I told my daughter, I said, but your friend, she said she asked me if I wanted a jewel. She's like, no, no, she didn't say you wanted a jewel. She said, do you want a - a jewel to put some ju - you know. Right. I didn't have any bracelets, but I was into - I liked Taylor Swift. I wouldn't go again. I kind of felt bad being there, because there's people who give their left arm to be there. But it was - look, she is an unbelievable performer. I mean, it was - you could - first of all, I liked some of her songs. Secondly, the level of performance. It was just, you know, it was an A+. I mean, that - that - and that is something, even if you didn't like her music, you can appreciate it. And also, I appreciate it if I had to go to the bathroom. Easy pass right in there. No one. Right. No one's leaving their seat except for people like you who aren't in it. Yeah, and especially, yeah, and more skewed women.
A highlight from The Debut of NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube
"Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Traina. I am your host, Jimmy Traina. Thank you so much for listening. Bonus episode, bonus podcast on this Monday after the first Sunday of the NFL season. We had the debut of NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube. It was on DirecTV for like 25 years. Now it's on YouTube. And Sal Licata, who joins me every week for Train of Thoughts from WFAN in New York and SNY TV in New York, joins me where we share our experiences with Sunday Ticket on YouTube, getting it set up, what we thought of it, full review, full breakdown of everything, what you need to know about it, what their differences are if you have YouTube TV, if you have cable, full breakdown of everything all related to NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube. That's what this pod is with Sal. It's like a full -blown Train of Thoughts. So listen to Sal and I discuss it, come back later in the week for a regular episode. If you missed any recent episodes, check them out. Last week, Julian Edelman was on. He was great. Just joining Fox had some great Brady and Belichick stories. Charles Barkley was on recently, Peter Schrager, Chris Russo. Check all those pods out. Subscribe to SI Media with Jimmy Traina. And this is one of two episodes this week. All right, let's get to it now with Sal. Full episode here on NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube. All right here right now on SI Media with Jimmy Traina. Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Traina. Thanks for listening. Bonus episode this week. This will be one of two. We're taping this on Monday after the first week of the NFL season, the debut of the new Sunday Ticket on Yahoo, on Yahoo. What a dope. On YouTube, on YouTube, I had to get on with Sal and we're just gonna riff about our Sunday Ticket experiences in week one. Sal, how are you? I'm great and I'm excited to have this conversation with you because we've had this many times over the years at dinner, at our houses, whatever, discussing this exact thing. And we both, I know, had great experiences yesterday. So I'm looking forward to talking about it with you. Well, let's start with this. There are many, many train of thought segments on this podcast over the last three months where you said you were not going to get Sunday Ticket. You were not going to get it. You're just focusing on the New York teams. And then I got the text message. Let's see here if I can find the text message. Even, even early, I noticed you were starting to cave a little bit earlier this week. Actually, 9 .34 a .m. on Sunday, I'm still on the fence. And then at 10 .45 a .m., the text came in from Sal. I'm in. It's like Michael Jordan returning to the NBA. I know. I thought about writing to you. I'm back. I was thinking about it as the week went on. I told you, like, because of the lineup with the playing Giants Sunday and the Jets playing Monday, that to me made it worse. Or you were saying, oh, well, you're going to have the national games. Yeah. But knowing that I didn't have to watch those games at that time made it more appealing for me to get the get the Sunday ticket. So I kind of thought I'd be going that way. And then Sunday morning I was like, fuck it. Let me just get this thing in. It's worth the money. Let me see what it's all about. And is it great. So so let me do a little preamble here before we get into it, because I want to say this and let me know if you agree, disagree. But before we even discuss this, I think what we need to establish is this. How you feel about Sunday ticket, whether it's direct TV, YouTube, the changes or it's it's going to depend on how you watch football, number one, and it's going to depend on what services you have. Now, for instance, Sal has direct TV. I have I don't have direct TV. Oh, oh, you have optimum cable. Correct. OK. Optimum cable. You were scamming the direct TV Sunday ticket all these years. That's right. All right. I did have direct TV. Right. And this is an important part of it. I don't want to gloss over it. And then I moved into the city and I was not allowed to get direct TV. So what they did was allow me to stream Sunday tickets. So I have been able to stream Sunday ticket for several years. So whether you have optimum like Sal, I have Verizon, Fios. Some people have direct TV. Some people don't have any cable. They have streaming services. That's a factor in all this. And then the other thing that I think added so much confusion over the last couple of weeks and is early yesterday there's also this huge Sunday ticket is different based on whether you have YouTube TV or you're just using YouTube. Now, Sal and I both have cable, so we're just using YouTube. If you have YouTube TV, the experience is different. So there's a lot of layers to this. It's very convoluted. I'm going to do my best to try to break it down for you now. So the biggest thing is this. If you have YouTube TV, you're good to go with Sunday ticket with your in -market and out -of -market games. You have nothing to worry about. If you don't have YouTube TV, like Sal and I, you're not getting the local market game. So on Sunday here in New York, Steelers, Niners was on Fox at one o 'clock. Browns, Bengals was on CBS at one o 'clock. Those games are not part of our Sunday ticket packages on YouTube. If you have YouTube TV, they were. So if you don't have YouTube TV and you just have YouTube, you have to have more than one television. I think if you want to watch all the games, if you care about one team, you're fine. You really do need to have two TVs because what I did was I had on my big TV, the multi -view with the four games. And on the second TV, I had one of the local games because that's how you have to do it. So, so far I weigh in on what I've said so far. Yes. Okay. Question here. Number one, if I had YouTube TV, do I then get the local games as part of the game mix? Yes. Oh, shit. See, so I may consider then, I don't know if I'm realistically going to do it, but that to me is like the number one thing that's been missing forever on the prior service. And now that I cannot have, because like you, I like to have the game mix and the four box grid, but it automatically takes out whatever local game is on. And I hate that. So here in New York, we could not get a four game multi -view that had either Steelers Niners or Browns Bengals in it on Sunday. Cause those are in market games. So there was no multi -view whether it was four games, three games that had those games in it. If you had YouTube TV, those games were part of the multi -view. So you, so you, so you would consider getting rid of optimum and getting YouTube TV. Well, I didn't know that that was the case. I mean, I probably, truth be told, I'll never be a cord cutter, but if I were to get it in addition, it might be worth it at least just for the season. Now I screwed up because I bought the ticket. Although I guess you have this period now where it's kind of, um, you know, the tree trial period and I can make a decision at the end of the week, but, uh, I'd rather than go back and get the ticket much cheaper if you buy YouTube TV, I think. Right. You know, YouTube TV is like $80 a month. It's like a cable service.
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So we have Julian Edelman, Super Bowl champion, obviously from the Patriots and he is joining Fox's pre pregame show It's Fox NFL kickoff 11 a .m. Eastern, 8 a .m. Pacific. He's now part of that crew. So Julian talks about Going into TV going into media joining Fox great great stories about Belichick Brady Gronk talk about betting Some other NFL news with Edelman following Julian SI media Podcast regular John Oran joins the show to talk about the big dispute between spectrum cable and ESPN Disney Which is really ESPN 15 million cable subscribers do not have ESPN right now because of this dispute No one better to break it down than John Oran. We also get into Sunday Ticket on YouTube and College football ratings and a few other things with John and then train of thoughts with Sal Acada closes out the show We go through some week one NFL betting lines Talk about the US Open and some other things with Sal So we have all that coming up before we get to it real quick If you missed it last week over the Labor Day weekend We dropped a pod last week Greg McElroy from ESPN and comedian Jared Freed with the guests two weeks ago Charles Barkley Feedback's been phenomenal. If you missed it, make sure you check it out Peter Schrager three weeks ago Chris may have dog Russo four weeks ago So if you missed any of those check them out in the archive subscribe to SI media with Jimmy Traina and leave a review on Apple we're definitely gonna read those next week All right, Julian Edelman followed by John Oran followed by train of thoughts all right here right now on SI media with Jimmy Traina Alright joining me now Super Bowl champion and now in the media. He's joining Fox's NFL kickoff, which is at 11 a .m. Eastern every Sunday little pregame action Julian Edelman Julian, how's it going? Going well, how are you doing? I'm doing well. I'm doing very well cuz football is here. So it was back Thank God is fully back. I Mean, I wish I wish the trends Kelsey wasn't hurt because I feel like that takes a little bit away from the opening game But it is what it is If you look at it though over the last However, many years the Kansas City Chiefs have been on this run. They've had relatively pretty decent help Throughout their whole thing. I mean they left they lost the left tackle in the Super Bowl That's why they lost against, you know, Brady they couldn't protect Patrick Mahomes but it's it's getting to that time in their Era it where gets hard, you know being a guy that's been on one of those teams a dynasty. They're not there quite yet but uh You know, they're well on their way if they could stay healthy and you would know better than anyone about dynasty So when would you say they're there? How many would they have to win before you say they're a dynasty everyone knows it's three Okay, I don't know what's going on. Everyone keeps on talking like oh This is you you into no, it doesn't matter if you get to the Super Bowl We went to eight straight AFC championships or something like that. Like you got to win three to get to be in Cowboys previous Patriots Niners Steelers It's not two. It's not two So tell me I want to get into your Fox gig and transitioning to meeting that since we're on it It's a good topic because I'm just curious because one of the things I'm looking at is someone who's scouting Over -unders to bet and and you know who's gonna win the AFC and stuff like that The I Motivation shouldn't say the motivation. I mean, I think the motivation is there even if you win But is it difficult or how difficult is it after winning two like they've won? It's very difficult To get geared up every Sunday, you know people don't realize How hard it is once you go out win a Super Bowl Okay, now they have two that when you win that first one you become a target everyone circles you on the schedule You win another one now everyone circling now now Divisions and conferences are designing their teams to beat you. So it gets harder and harder and as an individual player You know Your motivation you have to pull what what's motivating you because natural human instinct you're like You know, we got this we're good and then you know something happens you have injuries here an injury They're a player doesn't sign back because no two teams are the same. It's a new team every year. So it's very hard mentally To keep it going, you know And you have and they have a leader in Patrick Mahomes that can do that We had Tom Brady Tom Brady was always always on he was like he was always motivated So that gives you hope for the Kansas City Chiefs because they have such a great player and Patrick Mahomes who's their leader You know their best player is is their quarterback is their leader and the way he is is huge. Do you think? the intensity to beat the Chiefs to throne the Chiefs is Similar to what you guys experience and I ask you from this standpoint and I hope you don't take offense to this But I feel like I feel like the Chiefs are not hated in any way I'd feel like no one dislikes Mahomes No one dislikes Andy Reid you guys and I think it was mainly because of your success But there were people who didn't like Tom for whatever reason there was the ridiculousness with the flake eight the stupidest thing ever people didn't like Belichick, maybe You guys I don't think we're like Completely beloved whereas KC seems like I don't know who maybe people are sick of Travis Kelsey a little bit Like our teams you think is amped up to beat the Chiefs as they were you guys I Think the games changed the player has changed Just as an overall, I mean we look at games nowadays you got guys over here You know dapping up helping guys back back when we were playing the Jets when I first got in the league Bart Scott was mother -effing Billy O 'Brien on the sideline guys were fighting before, you know, it's just it's kind of changed And it could be for good or could be for bad. That's for weather for everyone else to determine But and also, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs that the Patriots were on it for 20 years Okay, like when I got there they already had three Super Bowls and they were on a little drought, you know But they were still winning, you know, they went 7 16 and oh they you know 14 win seasons they were still putting out big winning seasons for a long a longer time and You know the Chiefs just haven't been there I'm so I'm sure the Chiefs keep on doing well that people are gonna start hating them too, you know, yeah. Yeah The I want to get into some other stuff about the Patriots and and Belichick and Brady and but let's talk about you going to Fox you did inside the NFL. I enjoyed you on there I wrote that a couple times for SI. Now. You're gonna be on the Fox NFL kickoff show. It's remarkable I don't know if you've seen it Maybe you just know it off the top of your head because you friends with all these people but it is remarkable how every patriot is in media now is on TV, you know, you've got the McCordy's Gronk is part of the Fox family. Everyone knows about the Brady situation McGinnis the TV Bruschi It's like if you're on you were part of our Patriot team good love winners. Yeah people love winners Yeah, and they hate them so, you know you get a little bit of both They're either gonna love your hate you but they're gonna watch you It's like you had no choice but to go into TV basically after after all it's it's I don't know it's uh, You know when you play for an organization like New England and You've had the success that we had over the years that we played, you know It opens up a lot of doors and it's plain and simple. That's that's really what it is The the sacrifice and the efforts that we put into our career helped us after our career and a lot of guys you know, they have that hard work mentality that still want to stay in the game, but may not want to be coaches and And that's what media is, you know, that's what I feel. You know, I get my football fix by Going into a pre -production meeting and I haven't done it with Mike Vick or Charles Woodson or Chris and Thomas or Peter Shrager But you get your football locker room kind of vibe when you do those like when I was on inside the NFL I'm sitting there talking with Phil Simms Patrick, uh, you know, Brandon Marshall Michael Irving, Ray Lewis, James Brown and you have these These meetings where you just get to sit and talk football It's before you go on the lights are shining but you sit and you're talking stories You're breaking football down with people that play football So, I think that's a huge probably reason about it and you know, it's not you know We're used to putting in these crazy hours 14 -hour days Seven days a week don't get this year family and media, you know, like you got to do your homework You got to you got to watch all the games, but you know, we can still have a life outside of it, you know These guys are going coach. I mean people always ask me. Why aren't you in coaching and I go You know, I did my time Like I put my my 12 13 14 hour days in and when I would leave work I would see coaches families in the parking lot Seeing the coaches before they would go to bed because they still had another three hours. I ain't doing that Yeah, you know and then if you go somewhere else where it's not like that Then I'm mentally all messed up because well, there's some people that are doing it, you know So it's just I like I'm happy or I'm mad. I'm excited to go out and entertain and talk my knowledge When you were playing and you're playing days towards the end of your career Did you think you would get into TV or did you not think about it while you were playing? I Didn't necessarily think I'd become an analyst and do what I'm doing right now I always enjoyed creating content You know whether it was our YouTube videos our Instagram videos and all the content we build on J around je11 You know that was booming with with the Patriot nation that would always support, you know I always I found a niche in that and and I enjoyed that process of creating content going in and sitting in a you know in a editing room and and Filming up all this stuff and thinking it's gonna be terrible and then cutting it down and then you know having all your other team Because there's a team of people, you know That put put the work in to to get this good content out and I enjoyed it So I didn't know it was gonna be to the extent of what I'm doing right now but I knew you know, I was comfortable in front of a camera and you know, I know I faced for radio, but Thank God I won a lot of games Had it and just tell me were were there other networks like in the running to get your services Was it just Fox like I'd end up at Fox why Fox? Tell me a little bit about joining I want to say any other names there were, you know There was another network that was involved and I sat down and I thought Fox would be perfect You know, I got a couple teammates there with Gronk Brady You know, I'm really excited to get to hang out with you know Charles Woodson and in talk football with Mike Vick and Chris Thompson Peter Schrager and you know Fox is like a If you know the story behind Fox, I mean they were created as This little small sport network with John Madden.
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We have a great show this week We have two guests Greg McElroy, who was just promoted to ESPN's number two booth for college football We'll be working with Sean McDonough calling a national championship playoff game This season comes on to talk about the upcoming college football season get into his broadcasting career stuff with Alabama Sleeper team, sleeper quarterback, new rule changes So we do all that with Greg and then comedian Jared Freed who has a Netflix special out called 37 and single joins the pod to discuss life as a comedian Shaping his act. He's a big sports fan talk about if Bill Belichick is funny and The business of being a stand -up comedian working with Netflix and stuff like that. No Sal this week He's off for the Labor Day holiday weekend. He'll be back next week as we kick off the NFL season and Obviously last week Charles Barkley was on the podcast the feedback on that was tremendous. You guys couldn't have been nicer really appreciate it I will get in depth on the Charles Barkley podcast next week when Sal is back because there's a lot to discuss there But really appreciate all you guys listening in the nice feedback. Also Peter Schrager and Chris Russo won in recent weeks So if you missed any of those episodes go into the archives check them out Subscribe to SI media with Jimmy Traina and leave a review on Apple. We're gonna read them next week Alright Greg McElroy from ESPN on college football followed by comedian Jared Freed all right here right now on SI media with Jimmy Traina All right joining me now. He is the new number two analyst for ABC's PN's college football coverage this year I'll be working with Sean McDonough placing Todd Blackledge is off the NBC Former Alabama quarterback Greg McElroy Greg. How's it going? Congrats on the new gig? Thank you guys so much Glad to be with you guys I've listened for a while you guys between all the media podcast always enjoy how you guys cover Cover the world before I even got into it. I was into it. So it's like this it's addictive, right? It's addictive the sports media world, but you guys do an amazing job. So happy to be joined with y 'all Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And I mentioned you're gonna be working with Sean McDonough this year Sean I'm a big fan of Sean. I've had him on this podcast. We we had some fun with his famous voice cracks Tell me about working with you know, Sean who's done this for so long has done every sport He's done World Series. He's done the NFL obviously Icon on college football tell me about the season going into it with Sean McDonough on ESPN. Well, I'm really excited I think Sean is just phenomenal. I mean, it's just a complete legend and in some ways, you know, I When you're playing or when you're watching as a fan at least for me, I was almost oblivious to the To the names and the and the faces that were on television Of course, I grew up with you know, watching NFL football as a diehard cowboy fan So I was you know Pat summer all and and listen al Michaels and and all the others that have kind of graced the television screen but I I recognized voices before I recognized names and as soon as I became more aware of this side of The game broadcast as soon as I heard Sean McDonough's like, oh my gosh, I've been listening in my whole life To be able to I've only done one game with him and it was the national championship game and we did the radio call 2021 would have been the year and it was Alabama against Ohio State and I was nervous wreck I mean, I'm going and working with a guy that I've been listening to for 20 years 25 years knowingly And I'm like this guy's a legend I just want to get out of his way like I just don't want to mess this up because I've aspirations maybe one day down the road working with him and He couldn't have been more gracious. He couldn't have been more understanding. I was a little anxious I'd never been on a call for a game of that magnitude Either as far as the radio is concerned, but he was amazing and I'm just so grateful to to him and him Welcoming on to the team and they've been together for a long time and look Todd Blackledge. I've said this For a long time. I think he's the best the best guy doing what we do. I think he's just amazing and I've always looked up to him. I've always really admired how he calls the game and I've always appreciated very much all the things that that he kind of Interjects into the game and and just the perspective that he brings so replacing him is as an impossible feat But I'm gonna do the very best that I possibly can It's a big promotion because the number two team which is which is you and Sean gets to call one of the playoff games Around New Year's when that takes place On TV, so it's a big assignment you guys I should have mentioned at the top You have North Carolina South Carolina for week one and your first game together for the season We talked about Sean you're coming off a season where you work with Joe Tess who also in college football circles is one of those guys that viewers and fans Are big big fans of because of his exciting ways Tell me, you know now that you're moving on here. What was like working with Joe Tessitore in the past Well, I've been really lucky The Joe and and Dave Pash who I was with prior to that are two of my best friends Dave Pash is like my older brother. Like I didn't know anything about anything As it comes to calling a game if not for Dave Pash and Brian Ryder I would not at all ever be in a position to have found any level of success in this profession But they really showed me the ropes and took me under their wing and then three years ago I was fortunate to to be aligned with Joe and What I love so much about Joe is the passion and energy that he calls the game with he lives that Way all the time and the guys bouncing off the walls in the booth in the pregame Hitting me talking to three times a day on Monday Tuesday Wednesday and our week leading up as far as prep is concerned like he consumes college football 24 -7 365 I mean every podcast I do he's listening has comments has critiques has Has his own opinions that he wants to weigh in him. He is just an all -knowing consumer So it was a blast to work with him and we've developed such a close relationship I Joe love and I love Dave and and I love Scotty Matthews our producer last year who is just an amazing amazing person and Kim Belton who worked with us a few years back as Well, so I've been really really lucky to be around people that taught me to do it the way I think is the right way Everyone's got their own way of preparing for a game Everyone has their own way of calling a game and when to when to speak when to lay out But I've been very fortunate to been surrounded by very talented people that have helped me understand the dynamic of How to present a game and I've had Drake great truck support as well to kind of help me Figure out the best way to plan a review or a replay sequence or maybe do some art or some Telestrations things of that nature. So whether it's Joe or the or the truck the last few years with Scotty and Jeff for Dave and Ryder and Ryder's of course can be doing some Monday Night Football games now. It's a super pump for him I've just been very very lucky and and very very fortunate. I think Dave Pash is the most underrated play -by -play guy in He's phenomenal. He's And I love hearing that Joe Tess is Wacky, even when the mics are off before a game. I love hearing that that you know, it's the same energy Let me get I just want to be clear about something because I've messed up with math before on this podcast I I once called Roman Reigns 43 when he was 33, which I still saw what you're 35 I am yes, and you've been doing games for nine years This is year eight. Yes, you're gonna see I told you I would mess it up Okay, I was pretty close to be on I've said seven. So I've messed it up. You're not wrong It's my own once you get going. Yeah, my ultimate point is you started doing TV at 27, which is pretty young I think well, what do you remember back when I mean when you started out? How raw were you? How green were you? Did it take you a long time to get I mean because I think 27 is pretty Young to be doing TV. Well, it's it's really young when your NFL career is a dud But I feel like I didn't play as long in the league as I would have liked if I could have started at 33 after 10 years in the show, I would have been perfectly okay with that as well But I knew very quickly when I was wrapping things up in the league I probably could have grinded out a couple more perhaps But I was kind of looking at through the prism of I can start my next life now With the launch of the SEC Network and be aligned With a company at ESPN that I knew would cultivate and help us figure out how to do television It was the right time to go. I was still under contract with the Bengals when I agreed in principle with ESPN and Inevitably was in studio at first which I thought was a really good way to kind of get my feet wet and Understand just kind of the nuance of television lingo how to read a rundown how to Do the telestrator in the studio and more of a controlled setting? So if we busted something, it's like well, let's re rack it Let's go. Yeah, that was Comforting and and figuring out your cadence and your tone the following year Called a game that year but it was Lamar against Texas A &M a very forgettable game Jimmy if you didn't watch that one I'm not sure how you missed it. Well, I'm a better so I'm sure the line was about 50 So that'll that's all I need to know if it was that match I think you could have laid the points comfortably and come away a winner in that one. It got a little sideways Then the following year kind of had the perfect blend of studio and game by doing the SEC nation show With Joe Tess I might add so already developed a bit of a rapport with him and Kind of got to feel the energy of the crowd and the fact that yes, it's structured to an extent But you also kind of have to play to the audience some a little bit like doing a game It was almost the perfect blend and then in 2016 after a couple of games that I did in 2015 That's when I was given my first booth Alongside Dave Pash and I remember right out of the gate. Our first game was Houston and Oklahoma It was like number 11 against number four and I was a nervous wreck I mean just to complete I'm like, I'm gonna if I screw this up It's the last year my deal like I'll just be out and you know, go do whatever it is I need to do so I was a wreck and was very nervous. How long did it take you to get comfortable? Last year, maybe yeah, really For real I have I have butterflies before the game that are very comparable to when I played Still get them will always get them probably and I hope I do because that's part of what I love so much about doing this Job is that it is as close to being in the action as close to being a coach as close to being a player is any other professions In the industry, so I really enjoy it, but it probably took me. I was remarkably over prepared as Far as my week of prep is concerned all -consuming Totally dialed in I knew everything you need to know about the backup snapper you know to the point where it's like this is just I'm getting 2 % of my pregame prep into the show and it was almost it weighed me down some and I was trying to force things in so I Scaled back a lot over the course of a couple years to the point where I could be more efficient with my preparation Understand the things that I write down and notes that I take what's going to make air what might not what will benefit and allow? Me to have strong opinions on the air, even though it it might not necessarily come out exactly as I write it down I'll have a better fundamental understanding of what this team does and why they do it so I would say as far as my week of prep is concerned took me three years probably and then to get Really really comfortable and just having my voice and knowing when to go when to lay out when to allow the crowd to speak on Your behalf when to allow the players to speak on your behalf and to let my play -by -play guy really run with it I would say probably the last three years when I really started to hit a groove.
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"HBO did a documentary on it. It airs Wednesday night. So this comes out Thursday. So you have to stream it on Max HBO Max, whatever the fuck it's Twitter. It's HBO. I'm not saying X. I'm not saying Max. Anyway, you got to stream it. I watched it. It's phenomenal phenomenal. It's something you white your wife would like to if you need something to watch with her. I thought you were going to say the Kim and Kanye breakup that is now streaming available on on Max. I believe I didn't see that was it. It's a documentary on Kim and Kanye breaking up. I think so. I just went this morning before I left for work to download hard knocks on my iPad and I saw it and I was like, oh shit. I know I got to watch hard knocks for work, but I'd rather watch this Kim and Kanye documentary. So I don't know exactly what it is, but it's on HBO. I'll check out the Bishop one though. So wait, you didn't watch hard knocks. I did I did. I actually watched it while I was driving in. I had it on me on the iPad. Don't say that don't say no, no, I it's not like I was locked into I had should Shelby edit that out all these screens and stuff like I had it on the iPad and more listen to it. And by the way, I'm stuck in traffic that I'm not moving anyway takes two hours to go 50 miles. So but yes, I did. I watched it. Did you I guess you don't need to actually look at the screen and to hear that Aaron Rodgers is on the jet. That's the whole show. The whole show is Aaron Rodgers is on the Jets. That's the entire divorce. This was so boring. Yeah, so boring. But yeah, you have to watch the fish. It's called BSI, which is a great name bishops it BSI. Yeah, perfect. Very very well done. You will want to kill the main guy. He's infuriating doesn't act like he did anything wrong and you will you will feel awful for the kids involved, but it's well done. Okay, so that's it and it's weird because this was really good, but there's this whole thing going on on Twitter the last two days. I've noticed we're like, I guess Netflix did a documentary on the Florida Gators and everyone on Twitter is ripping it to shreds. First of all. Why on earth would anyone watch that? I don't understand who would sit down and want to watch something about Urban Meyer and the Florida Gators. There's too much shit out there. I can't say I would want to dedicate time. Everyone's going crazy saying it sucks. Who would want why would you ever sit down and watch a documentary on Urban Meyer's Florida Gators? I don't understand unless you're Florida. If you're Florida fan, it's fine. But like that's a topic that Urban Meyer is so unlikeable. Well, let me say did they is it with Tebow and Aaron Hernandez at the time from what I've seen on Twitter. They don't mention Aaron Hernandez. They don't get into it. No, what do you need to know? Right? Yeah, I mean at least that would be like someone intriguing to go relive those days with those dominant teams. What those particular players but one of them I asked you this I asked you this last week. Your answer was no. Have you done your scouting yet for NFL over others? No, I am not a mess. You're a mess. I've done a couple of teams. I did the NFC East but I have not I love the Giants and Jets. That's it. I mean, I'm going over on those two teams for sure and what's the jet number again? I think the Jets were nine and a half the Giants. How are the Giants seven seven and a half? How is that even possible? You like the over there or no? I love the giant over. I love it. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah. So no, are we going to do this two weeks from now? By the way, I think I'm taking off next week. I got to confirm that with you, but I'm on vacation. So, all right. Oh, you're on vacation from the fan too? Yeah fan and SNY totally off. I mean, I may be able to find you know, 15 minutes to bang one of these out, but I am all right. Well, we'll figure it out. Okay, and then how are we doing be prepared for Sunday ticket disasters. That's the theme you be prepared for it. I don't have it. I'll be watching the Jets and Giants whatever. I may get the red zone this year. Oh gross. I'll be at the main event. All right, so hopefully we'll see you next week. If we don't we'll see you the week after as we prepare for the start of the NFL season. That's a big week. So yeah, you got a sparkly on you got the NFL season in two weeks. You are flying high right now. I know only my GM would get fired. I'd be I'd be in tip-top shape.Hey, I don't think that's gonna happen only Brian Cashman didn't have a job for life for no reason. All right, take care. I'll talk to her. All right, my eternal thanks to Charles Barkley unbelievable time. He gave us great interview and my thanks is always to sell a cot. I hope you guys enjoyed it. If you're not a subscriber to SI media with Jimmy Trainor hit the subscribe button really would appreciate it leave a review on Apple rate review will read it and check out past episodes Peter Schrager from Good Morning Football was on the pod last week Chris Mad Dog Russo two weeks ago tremendous episodes with great feedback appreciate you guys listening. Hope you enjoyed Charles and like I said, if you're not a subscriber hit that subscribe button. All right. We'll see you next week. Stay safe and take care. 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"Okay, give me give me your I heard what dog had to say, but I want to hear your why do you say that everyone pay attention because this is important. You know on DirecTV, they had the game mix channel with the eight games at once. Yes, that's gone. No longer offered on YouTube, but you do get a game mix. No four games max. See that's a problem. I told you I've been dealing with that for years with the digital with the streaming version of DirecTV Sunday ticket and let me hoping that we'd have an option of six or more and this is what I got now. I got this directly from YouTube. Okay, we don't have plans to offer the game mix channel this season. That's the eight with regards to multiview users will not be able to select individual games at this time during the season viewers will instead be able to choose from extensive selections of four game three game and two game multiview combinations every Sunday meaning if you say to yourself, I want the Falcons and want you get four games max. Let's say I'm going to play I'll make all these games up and I'll do division. Let's say you want dolphins Patriots in one box Bengal Steelers in another Niner Seahawks in the other box and Cowboys Eagles in the fourth box. No, it's what YouTube is going to have as selection. Now there are there's now DirecTV used to offer the eight boxes and the four boxes this email is telling me direct YouTube is going to offer four three and two, but they're picking the games not you that sucks. They should let you pick the games. So just for reference aside from the actual DirecTV, like you said with the eight game mix or the four or six gimmicks, whatever was an actual like, you know hardline cable for me as you know last year from coming over quite a bit whatever over the years you were allowed to only game mix for but I picked the fucking games. You don't be able to pick the games, right? How could you not? I can't be subject to their games. I and I'm thinking now see here's where this is where the problem comes in. My guess is they're going to give you the four best matchups, right? But if you're betting a shitty matchup and that's the game you want to watch you can't have it as part of your game mix. It's good on YouTube. It's not called game mix. It's called multi view just for the record. Go ahead. Okay, but so what happens to the local game for example, like let's just say that they pick Jets Giants in one of those multi view boxes. I'm not going to get that because I'm in New York. Do they that's okay. So you just stole my Thunder on item number two. Okay, you need okay, unless you have if you don't have YouTube TV, if you have a satellite or cable service you have Optimum or DirecTV or Fios. I have Fios you have DirecTV some people have Optimum some Spectrum whatever it is. If you have one if you don't have YouTube TV and that you have one of those services you're going to need two TVs because here's why. Here's why you're on Sunday ticket on YouTube. You're watching the multi view whatever your local game is. So like here in New York, it'll be the Jets and the Giants but if you're in Chicago, it's the Bears if you're whatever your local game is going to be blacked out. You're going to have to go to your cable or satellite input to watch that game. It's not going to be available on YouTube TV on YouTube on you on Sunday ticket on Sunday ticket so confusing with the YouTube YouTube TV. Right, right. The point is if the Giants are playing the Eagles at one o'clock on Fox in New York that game is blocked out of Sunday ticket meaning you've got to go you personally have to go to DirecTV channel 5 to watch it while you're trying to also navigate the YouTube multi view going to be a lot of problems. Now that doesn't impact me because I'm set up for that because that's how I was watching it. But that is a pain in the ass for people who got used to DirecTV. See I kind of love it. You it's a problem for anyone who has one TV, which is most people. Well, I think when it comes to watching football on Sunday a lot of people if they have one TV their red zone anyway. Like we're you and I are different but I do think a lot of people watch the games that the way that we do with multiple TVs with different games on each so I don't I can't complain if you if you only have one TV you're watching football differently than I have anyway, and really YouTube is not set up for you. Like it's a streaming device anyway, so I would say let's say somebody's watching regular TV and then streaming on the iPad. Yeah, right, right. Are you you're screwed because you're going from old school DirecTV. No, I'm fine because I have two TVs. No, I'm saying you're the old school DirecTV non-streaming Sunday ticket like that's the that's the harsh reality like dog. He's going from non-streaming Sunday ticket where he can literally touch the channel touch the remote switch a channel to any game. He wants pull up any game he wants on any TV via the channel now it is streaming exclusively. That's going to be a rude awakening for people who got used to just having it on the service. So what you can do the other thing you can do I guess is I guess what I can do is so I have the two TVs so I can put a multi-view with four games on one TV and a multi-view with maybe two or three games on the other TV. Oh, but again again, you're going to be shut out of whatever game is airing in your local market meaning you can have a black screen on one of the mixes potentially because that's how DirecTV did it too. They blacked it out the local games right, but it was eight so you could deal with maybe one of eight being blacked out right right one of four. It's going to mess up the whole thing. My whole viewing would be screwed up with the way that I watch it. I like picking the four games. I had an extra two TVs. So I put both locals on and the game mix of four games that I choose that is now out and I don't have YouTube and I'm not I don't plan on getting it after this bull crap. It is funny. You've mentioned this and it's a good point that you've made a few times here. Like it is interesting because we all watch the NFL differently. There are some people who just are interested in their favorite team and they're watching one game on one TV and they don't care about anything else. You have the people like me who I don't have a favorite team. I want to watch the best games of the day or what I bet right then there's you you have a team with the Falcons. You've got to pay attention to the locals because you're on radio in New York, but you know, if the bills are playing the Chiefs you're going to want to watch that so I guess maybe they're in a spot where they can't cater to everyone although direct TV somehow did even though they were a shitty service. No, but I think you just you just for people like us that want to watch all the games we have to now adjust so I'll give you maybe an advantage here and you could get into this if you know, can you sign in to multiple streaming multiple TVs or multiple devices unlimited in your house in your house is unlimited. So here's the way to fix all of it. Now. I'm not saying it's cheap but you buy fix TV, whatever it is. That's not realistic. That's not what it is. It is there people do it TVs aren't aren't expensive anymore. Matter of fact, it might even be better than the setup I had because you can you can watch literally every single game where direct TV streaming didn't allow you to do that. So yeah, obviously the game mix is fine. I see what you're saying, right? Like I could not I could only stream one screen whether it was an individual game or a four gate mix got now I could watch them all. I just need the devices and TVs. I listen. You can't tell people go buy six TVs, but you can buy two or three maybe and you know get a nice. Well, you have one you have one you have an iPad and by the way, you don't need to watch like when there's only what is it six games at once maybe I mean, is it really eight so they have up to eight at one o'clock. I guess there's no bye weeks. There's more than eight sometimes at one o'clock. All right, but you don't need to watch literally everyone so you can get away with yeah. And by the way, I would say the majority of people watch just the red zone Shelby just said he would never buy a second TV. Yeah, I have to like that's all I had. But again, it depends what you're interested in. If you're a fan of the Jets, you just go watch the Jets and that's it. If you're a fan of the Bears, you just watch the Bears. All right, I need to have I want to have access to every game same same thing at least I used to this year. I'm going to change it and and this is a good reason why although as we get closer to it, I start to get itchy thinking I need to have my setup and even though it's all streaming I can now stream all these different games. I just need multiple TVs. So Wednesday August 23rd, we're taping this the NFL season is quickly approaching September 10th. Is that for something? Are you still doing this bullshit where you're not going to order Sunday ticket? I don't have it. Yeah, I don't have it. And hearing you talk about it like it doesn't make it my current setup is best with a four game mix that I can choose the game for six is fine. But I had a four game mix if I can't choose the games. I am not watching one screen that's blacked out and then having to go with the two TVs on top of it as of right now. I would say I'm not getting YouTube TV. You're not buying it. It's just let me know if you want to make a wager on that. Although if you're moving that could skew the odds Vegas will take it off the board if you plan on moving during this year. Well, that's another thing. I'm gonna have to rethink my whole set up and I get into the new house forget the projecting projection big-screen. I got to get like six different TVs. You should move just based on the setup you have in that basement. That's the best setup in the world. I know I can't believe it either. I don't want to when you move how are you going to pack all that shit that you have 5,000 more than 5,000 figurines and bobbleheads and don't even get started. It's not something that I'm looking forward like the idea of moving the idea of moving period sucks the idea of me moving my prime prized basement and everything that I organized and put together like I can't even you worked so hard for that basement. Yeah, and it's over just a few short years of enjoyment. That's it touchy top over and tell it is no, but it's me. I do it. I can't take the fucking commute so I can I understand come to NASA. Yeah, come to NASA then you can come here because I have Sunday ticket and you don't there you go. All right. We'll go on Sundays. We're going to end up at the main event anyway, because they're the ones that have all the TVs on I'll tell you there the Anarchy that's going to take place on September 10th is going to be off the charts also and good. How are they going to do that at bars? Oh, no. So here's the one thing bars are fine bars have a deal with DirecTV DirecTV is still going to provide Sunday ticket to bars and restaurants. They're not doing the street. Why are you? Yeah. Yeah, wait a second. How's that possible? I thought they lost the rights. Well, they get the rights for how homes and how but if bars and restaurants will have it via satellite Sunday ticket. I'm floored by this they did this they did this last year with the Thursday night Amazon game the Amazon game on Thursday nights was available on DirecTV for bars and restaurants only and this is through the NFL. It has to be right? Yeah. Wow. So their setup is not going to change. No, that's why I will be at the main event on September 10th. I'm trying to think of ways we could buy a bar and just control the shit keep everybody out. Give me a bottle. I will I will I will get so flustered with Sunday ticket on YouTube by 1 30. I'll be at the main event. There's no doubt. 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"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"All right joining me now as he does every week for our weekly train of thought segment from WFAN radio in New York from 10 a.m. To 2 p.m. part of the BT and Sal show or was it Brandon Tierney and Salicata Salicata and from SNY TV in New York. My buddy Salicata, what's the official name of the show Brandon Tierney Salicata? That's it. Okay, two full names. Got it. How's it going life on WFAN? How's it going? It's been fun. I'm starting to get used to the schedule. I'm trying to move because I can't stand the commute but it's nice to not have to do the overnight. It's nice to be heard during the day. I'm having fun with it. It's been fun. Can you move to Nassau County? That is possible the taxes. However, first of all, I'm so fed up with Long Island. The taxes are absurd. The houses are absurd like I'm looking but it seems like I'd say right now 70-30 Jersey versus Nassau. I'd be upset but like I can't even pay attention to what you're saying. I'm so drained. I just did 90 minutes with Charles Barkley and my head is spinning because it was so good and I still can't believe that happened. How is Chuck? I'm trying to process it all the whole thing. Let me just just say this. I tried to book Charles for five years going through various channels. Nothing ever worked and then I got very very lucky and got his personal phone number. And he wrote back right away saying he would do it. I'm like what what is going on by giving you the runaround? He did it. He was phenomenal. I thought you know, yeah, so now he gave you an hour and a half of his time. I believe me. I don't know why but he did I would never I mean I got to an hour and a half that is people listening better. Give me five stars on freaking Apple. That's incredible. I can't wait to listen to it. I know if you've listening if you're listening to this you've already probably heard it, but I myself have not yet. Yeah, hopefully people stuck around for you. I'm sure they did. So many so many people say I go to Sal and then the guest let's see if they do that with Charles, you know, that'll be a big test. I don't know about that one. That's a that's a big one. So Tal and I just saw each other. We went to Joe's Pizza in New York City. Well, that's right. I forgot about that and people were giving me shit for wearing a WFAN zip up because you posted the thing on Twitter. I take my first bite of Joe's and I read the comments. What's with the WFAN hoodie? Hey jerk off. I work for WFAN. I'm allowed to wear a WFAN shirt to work which I met you after work. Anyway, that bothers me. This is Sal when he doesn't check his mentions.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Year to year in sports is like night and day. That's like it's like college football all the rankings are dictated by what happened last year as guys last year this year are totally different and the football in the NFL is totally different. It's the worst as the guys what happened last year has nothing to do with this year. That's why I tell people man every year is new. That's why it's fun. Yeah, exactly exactly. Well, thanks for having me brother be safe. Pleasure you too. Thank you. Take care. Bye. I'm Rex Chapman and these days most people know me for trolling weirdos on the internet, which is fun, but believe it or not. I had a whole career before that playing basketball in the NBA Chapman three-pointer outside. I played for four teams over 12 years in the league alongside so many incredible players, but no matter where I went there was one guy on every team who was totally untouchable. That was the owner. Plenty of fans don't even know who owns their team who's making the back room deals and moving players around like pieces on a game board, but every week on owned we're going to take the fancy elevator sneak past security and find out what it means to be a power player in the big leagues of pro sports. You know, I said I keep giving them money, but they keep getting the same result the family is like the wealthy but unsexy Kardashians follow owned wherever you get your podcast. You can listen early and add free on the Amazon music or Wondery app. He'll forget about the video game you gave him on his birthday. Wow. Thanks grandpa, but he'll never forget how you invested in his future with the you nest app. Wow. Thanks grandpa. Don't just give them any gift give them a gift that can grow with them invite grandparents and family friends to contribute to your child's future with the you nest app you nest is an investment account for kids that makes it easy to gift funds that can be used for college tuition their first home and more just by sharing the link or include a you nest QR code on party invitations for birthdays and holidays for a limited time download the you nest app and use the code I heart 50 at sign up to receive a $50 bonus when you fund your account. That's code I heart 50 when you sign up at unest.co for a $50 bonus see terms and conditions at unest.co Throughout history electricity is inspired some pretty incredible inventions. For instance those little robot vacuums people name like pets and smartphones which brought us the winky face emoji, but of all the great things nothing quite compares to the Hyundai Ionic 5. I mean this thing has all the tech you would ever want 100% electric two-way charging capability up to a 300 mile range and with just one look you can see it's different sharp body lines pixel inspired light clusters and a spacious flexible interior. It's fully electric inside and out the Hyundai Ionic 5 your journey at its most evolved 2023 Ionic 5 is available at select dealers and select states only contact your Hyundai dealer for availability details the Ionic 5 SE SEL and limited rear-wheel-drive models EPA estimated 300 three-mile driving range is based on a fully charged battery your actual range will vary.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"I think he's a really nice man and he's a good really good dude, but I'll say this. I think his story. It's the greatest story in sports history because for him because people forget Kobe Bryant wasn't very good coming into the NBA people forget that and he's one of the greatest greatest ever, you know, Kevin Garnett struggled. And I'll say that the only guy I've ever seen came right out of high school who lived up to it was LeBron. And for him to come in at 18. And be as good as he was as a player and arguably he's come in and he's one of the greatest ever depending on what generation you're from and to never have gotten in trouble and especially in today's society where everybody's got a cell phone and everybody's out to get you at different. I think his story is the greatest story in sports to be that good number one live up to the height but also grown into the conversation of the goat and never even came close to getting in trouble. I think his story is one of the it's the greatest story in sports history and I'll always admire him and that was hilarious with him and Katie like Katie. You're not going to pick James and so I appreciate you enjoying that but but that's what it's for man. Yeah, I want I want you I want everybody when they watch our show to laugh and have fun because like I say, I'm not even trying to be humble or whatever man. It's just basketball. It's just basketball. Yep. Yep. Well, listen, it took five years, but it was worth the wait. I can't thank you enough for doing this and giving me all this time. We almost went an hour and a half. I appreciate it greatly and I'll tell you I've been booking this podcast for like five years on my own. You were like one of the once I got your number you were one of the easiest people to book. It's amazing. I you know, there's you know people not even close to your level will give me a hard time and you said yes right away. So I can't thank you enough for that. I appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of the summer. Enjoy the season and thank you. Well number one. Thank you. And when I when I got your text, I said, oh, that's cool. And I said, man, I'm a big fan. Let's make it work and I'm glad to do it. You need me again. You got my info. I appreciate that greatly enjoy this and good luck with the NFL wagers most importantly. Whoo, man, but see that's the thing that you know, the hardest thing I try to tell fans this.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"So like I said, I don't college is in trouble. It's in college is in trouble. It is and like I say, I don't know what to do. I'm going to ask you two questions. If I like I appreciate the time so much. You've been more than generous. I'm just curious who who in sports media. Do you find funny since you're so funny? I love John McEnroe. I think he's fantastic. I thought David Faraday did a he does a really good job on golf. I think Eduardo Perez on ESPN. He does a fabulous job. The guys on CBS on their football show. Those guys are great. Greg Gumbel, Boomer Sice, I'm sorry, James Brown, Boomer Sice and Nate Burleson, Coach Cower. Yeah. Yeah, and Phil says, yeah, and also the guys on Fox were fantastic. Yeah, you know, they did like I watched those shows because I can say I want to get all the information before I call my guy. I want all the information, right? I want to hear what how long gotta say. I want to hear what coach Kyle gotta say. So I'm like, hey, I want to know it all because as I told you earlier, I don't want to be one of those idiots on television who gets unanswered. Well, he's not a good quarterback. Well, he's not a good baseball pitcher. I'm like, oh, he's not a good hockey player. I'm like, how the hell you know, I said because the problem I have with some of these guys, Jimmy is, yeah, they're not all Tom Brady or Pat Mahomes. But, you know, Kirk Cuttings is a hell of a little quarterback, right? You know now if they want to hold it against him, like he ain't got to the Super Bowl, but you can't stick out a hell of a quarterback hit. I think I saw a stat. They were talking about how underappreciated is he's got like one of the top five winning percentages like for the last 10 years. That's pretty incredible. Yeah. Well, you know, a lot of it is is people get judged by postseason. They don't, you know, and then that's just the argument. Yeah, you know, hey, my life sucks because I didn't win NBA championship. You see I'm over here crying every day. Do you think you know, it's funny. I was going to do you think when it's all said and done, you know, you said you don't want to get morbid. You don't think about death. But when it's all said and done you think there are going to be a significant amount of people who know you more for broadcasting than playing and you're a great player top 70. Yeah, it's crazy when you think about it. Well, think about this. Anybody first of all majority players. I'm covering they never even know I play. I mean, I've been on TV for 23 years. I've been retired for 23 years. So like when some of these young kids come in, they only see me on television, right? But listen. It's you know, when you say something about death, I just want to be one of those people like because we all gonna go. I just want people to say Chuck was a good dude. We're gonna miss him. You don't want to be one of those people. He's like, I'm glad that's some bitch gone. And that's what that's what that should be. Everybody's goal in life because I tell people do you a stupid-ass basketball player. You're not in the service. You're not a teacher. You're not a policeman. You're not a fireman. You're not a doctor like those to me and I'm not trying to be humble or whatever. Like do you dribble a stupid-ass basketball now you get paid to talk about it. Like I put if you in the service man, I admire you and respect you if you a cop fireman or a doctor. I respect that teachers teachers never get enough love and respect those people. We should be admiring just cause a guy can dunk a basketball hit a baseball ain't no damn hero. All right, but even then I feel like even this we live in such a horrible time where even that people yeah, I remember my dad had some health issues. He was in and out of hospitals for a little bit and I was blown away by the care. He got from nurses nurses do it's off the chart and I remember I went on Twitter and I had said, you know, every nurse you get paid a million dollars a year for what they have to do and then people like that's ridiculous. How would the hospital sustain themselves and it's like you can't even make a statement like that. If you don't think nurses are as you know should be respected as much as any people in this country. There's something wrong with you like and for anybody to disagree with that. They're just an idiot because right, you know, I've been there with relatives. They have to wipe their ass. Yep, and like you first of all stuff that we wouldn't do. Yeah, I'm not bathing somebody. I'm not wiping somebody's shit off them like to do that every day, but also try to make the family feel better. Even you know, even when you know depth is imminent or things are not going to turn out a certain way to the way they treat you as a like because you have to go visit your family when they're sick. Nobody likes doing that and they're coming in taking vitals trying to make sure they get these three square meals a day. If you can't admire that right, it's something wrong with you. Yeah as and always doing it with a smile always as nice as it could be and like that and Jimmy the thing is crazy about it. They have to go from family to family. Yeah, I have to put on a brave face like when somebody dies they have to clean the room and bring in another family like that to be on that emotional. Yo, yo, it's got to be stressful for them. I don't be stressful for that. Absolutely. Absolutely hundred percent. I'm going to wrap it up with this. I want to give you my favorite Charles Barkley moment from the last couple of years. I mean, you've had so many funny moments so many funny stories, but I just got to tell you the one that got me, you know, when you know, there's certain things when you watch a TV show you watch a comedian where it may not have been the funniest thing, but it just hit you the thing you did that hit me. I will bet you had LeBron and KD on to pick the All-Star teams and this was when Harden was causing a mess with the Nets. I believe it. Oh, yeah, and he ended up being the last pick and LeBron said to you what's going on with James. Is he is he healthy because he had he had a hamstring at the moment and you said to LeBron. Oh, he's healthy now. He just got traded and LeBron. I love LeBron. I'm a huge I love LeBron's personality and LeBron just started he laughed and he just said I can't with y'all. It was just such a perfect TV moment. Just that encapsulated everything that the show is you are it was it was do you remember that moment? Because I remember laughing non-stop. So Jimmy I've said this publicly. I don't get caught up in the silliness of who's greater LeBron or Michael or blah blah blah, but I just think that that's just easy pickings for guys. I've said this before first of all, I think the bronze a really nice man.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Well, the Patriots in the Super Bowl against the Falcons. So me and my friends I got about 15 friends. We've been going to Vegas for 25 straight years because Vegas is the best place in the world for Super Bowl. We've been gone for 25 years. I got a now we're up to 20 guys because we got a bunch of freeloaders out Jimmy. I was feeling myself when it when the Falcons are up 28 to 3. I was feeling myself. I was feeling no pain. The tequila was flowing the vodka was flowing and they're up 28 to 3. And I'm like can't wait for the end of the game to celebrate and all of a sudden one of my friends Roy Green one of my great friends is he says, oh shit. What do you mean? Chuck this game is not over. That's it. Are you serious right now? He says the patient just scored went for to Atlanta's plan not to lose. They kicked it right back to him. I says do don't relax. This game is not over and the rest is history. That's probably my worst loss. Trying to think of another good one, but that was bad. Yeah. Do you ever watch bad beats when Scott Van Pelt is the bad religiously religiously and I always check always text him and Stanford Steve because what's really crazy about that. I always text him doing bad beats, but the worst thing about it Jimmy. Probably two out of five weeks. I got one of those bad beats. There you go. And I like yo, man. I had that game. So so I could you know, I love Stanford Stevens Van Pelt, but I text them doing bad beats all the time because you can never relax when you're gambling until this time to the game is over because it happened. It happened so much more. Then people even realize it but it's worth like I said, it's worse when I have one of the bad beats. I'm not going to lie. Now what the NFL season here. Will you bet like sees it like I like to bet like two or three season win totals like the Giants for instance or seven and a half or something. I'm gonna choose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the future you get into that. I do get into that. What do you got for the NFL this year? What are you looking at it? You got it? You know, I haven't looked at anything yet because we still got a two weeks from tomorrow. I think when the season starts. I like the Atlanta Falcons over. Okay, love them. Okay. I love the Patriots people better quit Street. My boy Belicheck wrong. The Patriots are going to shock some people this year. Let me ask you. I just did you see a picture because I meant to ask you when you talk about the Super Bowl loss. Are you friends with Tom Brady at all? Casual friends. He's a great dude when you lost that bet. Did you get to talk to Tom? Okay, okay. Me and Tom are casual friends. He's somebody that I really really admire and really really respect because let me tell you this, you know, there's very few quote-unquote goats in sports like we know most of them but Tom Brady and Wayne Gretzky are the two nicest people I've ever met who are the best to ever play a sport like I've been around Tom probably five or seven times. He is a really nice man and to say I know none of Gretzky I consider them a really really good friend. That guy is the nicest goat you're ever going to meet. So yeah, so yeah, but I bet against Tom because I love I thought the Falcons gonna win that game and they should have won that game, but it's never over. So I was a bad host and interrupted you like the Falcons over you like the Patriots over even though Mac Jones, so you believe in Mac Jones here then well, I think you know what the new offensive that that thing I don't know what the hell was happening up there last year. That's a weird Belichick thing. He never messes up like that weird, but I think that Bill O'Brien coming in it's going to be a good I mean the kid didn't go from zero backwards on his own the coaches have to take some responsibility for that and I consider coach Belichick a good friend of mine to to be honest with you. So I always root for him. But I'm trying to think what's going to be interesting is the NFC. I'm pulling for the Detroit Lions. Yeah, let me tell you something. Dan Campbell makes me want to play football. I don't know that guy. I never met that guy but when he talks I won't even though I'm an Eagle fan Dan Campbell makes me want to play football and we'd like to say I'm just a huge fan here. So I'm gonna be pulling for the Detroit Lions a lot because I want to see you want to see good people who you like be successful, but the NFC is going to be crazy because right now you got the Eagles and the 49ers and who else know who next right? I mean, nobody knows who like and there's always going to be a great surprise team. I'm hoping it's the Lions but right now and you know, the quarterback situation in San Francisco where Brock Purdy's arm, you know that you got to wait and see but the Eagles are going to be great obviously, but I don't even know who is going to be the third, fourth, fifth best. I mean the Cowboys got a chance, you know, I love coach Dabel and with the Giants. That's why I love the Giants. The Giants win total is seven and a half. They added Darren Waller the tight end from the Raiders and I think Daniel Jones with another year with Dabel who I think is a great coach. I love that. I love the giant over this year. That's going to be my big one. That's going to be a big play. Yeah, what was it going to be? What's going to be crazy? If the AFC East? Yeah, it is like man, but between two about the dolphins and the Dolphins are very good. Yeah, but also there's I think they're people sleeping on the Buffalo Bills also man. Let me tell you something. I love Josh Allen. Yeah, I love Josh Allen, but that that to me that division is going to be crazy. I cannot wait for football to start but that division is going to be crazy. Take me through a Charles Barkley Sunday again. I don't care about the amount you bet. It's like the Phil Mickelson thing. I think it's so dumb if these people have money let them but I want to know are you betting do you bet quantity meaning do you bet a lot of games? Are you betting a few games and you have significant money on it? Do you bet parlays? Do you bet teasers? Give me a give me a Chuck Sunday during the NFL season. Yeah, you know the parlay and the teaser thing. They are so dangerous. They are so dangerous what I really love to do Jimmy. I got a group of guys. We go to Vegas like once every two or three weeks and spend the whole day. We go in we go once every two or three weeks. Oh, yeah, it's only a 45 minute flight Jimmy. That's the Charles Barkley lifestyle. That's nothing better than spending the day Saturday and Sunday in the sports book. I agree. I've done it. I bet and you get up in the beauty of it. You get up at nine o'clock in the morning and it's time to go on Saturday because all the guys still got yet. So that's fine. So Saturday, you know, that's all the college stuff. So living out West nine o'clock in the morning. It's go time. It's go time starting at noon and then the seven games don't kick off to 330 and then you got the night games. So you're in the sports book like eight o'clock in a while. We get up for breakfast around 730 start studying the lines and everything go down around 8 8 30 in place a bet Sunday. You get up and watch all the shows you got you got to watch all the shows and you're like man, this is so awesome. I mean, so so that's only but when I'm at home I get up on Saturday and like say I'm not playing the parlay only play parlays and teasers of I'm in Vegas because you know, you got too much shit to worry about if you yeah, unless you got that ticket in your hand and you've like I don't want to be looking at like 10 games, but it just depends like yeah, I'm gonna bet five or seven games more than likely but man, I love it though. It's exciting. I can't even remember the last time I've actually watched a football game. I didn't bet on I'm cracking up over here because I so I've been in Vegas I think twice for football, but I used to go every year for the tournament the NCAA tournament and it's funny because the one thing I hate it was great. I mean, it was so fun. You can't even describe but I the one thing I hated was I'm on the East Coast. I'm here in New York. So with the time change and then you have to now back then this is a while ago. You'd have to be at the sports the games would tip at nine. You'd have to be at the sports book at seven to get a seat if you weren't there at seven. You're not sitting down you're standing up. So I that was the one thing I hated about it was was that time change and then the early the early start time but there is there is nothing there is nothing that's more fun than being in Vegas on a Saturday or Sunday or in the NFL season or during the tournament, you know, I've never been for the tournament even when I was wild. What was it wasn't but I tell you me and my boys we go there and just it's nothing better than spending a whole couple of days in the sports book. It's exciting. It's fun. And the thing about it. There's Cheers coming from every direction that they bet on some other game and over there. Yeah, you're like what game they bet on like go somebody just scored over there and actually the really cool thing about it like every game in creation is up there and that that's actually one of the more cooler aspects of being in Vegas at the sports book like at home. You can only watch so many games. Yeah. Yeah, and you're trying to flip around and blah blah blah. I love the fact that they got like layman keep out with a 10-month somebody getting ready to score and things like that. Yeah, it's funny because I that's the experience you bet. I've been you know, I'm on top of these things. I feel like I know and then like the book will be screaming and I'll say to my buddy what's going on? Like all first half total was ten and a half. They just kicked off like oh my God. I'm like, I can't keep track of all this. It gets over. Well, I will tell you one thing that scares me about gambling. Go ahead.
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"And we're like so the joke at work after like a month would be like hey our producers and says hey how long before you think Shaq don't set himself on fire? And we're like, so we had to get together and like Shaq. We've only been on like three weeks and you've done something great three weeks in a row. We still got seven months to go. He like, what do you mean? We're not trying to outdo ourself every night and he says well, you want me to be entertaining. Yes, we want you to be entertaining but you can't I says we're only three weeks into the season. We made a joke around here. You're like two weeks out from setting yourself on fire on live television. So he said hey man, just come on TV have fun. There's going to be time. We need you to like say the only time we say I said we need to step it up tonight. We got to shit games or we got one shit game. But so once we had the conversation like it man, we don't have to outdo ourself every night. And then from that point on he says, okay, I got it now and that was really the only time we had like Shaq. We only on week three. And you so that's the only time we've ever had to take a step back. I'm just kidding. What is your prep like now for the show? Like are there meetings? Are you like leave me alone with the meetings? I've been doing this long enough. Do you get just some notes beforehand? Is there a comment? I'm just curious what goes into before the show what your prep is like. Well, the only time prep work is hard is for March Madness. The NBA stuff is easy because I'm watching NBA games every single night. I mean, I'm a watch anyway, I'm a retired player. What the hell else I'm gonna do so that the NBA is actually pretty easy, you know, I'm watching games we get notes and all that other BS but really watching basketball every day is prepped. Now the March Madness stuff is very difficult because the way I do my schedule is I don't worry about college basketball until January the first like the first two and a half months. I only do NBA like I probably watch every NBA team play five to seven times because you have to get a good example of you know, you never know if they play three games in five nights or something like that or four games and four nights five nights, excuse me, so you want to watch them all but the hard part is March Madness. So once January the first come I kind of block out the NBA and I'm getting we get a comprehensive report on every conference every week. They sent us like tapes on every team. Man, it's monotonous. It's a pain in the ass like you watching little conferences. You never heard of so when March Madness because like you can go to ESPN or CBS and watch North Carolina do Kansas Auburn, Kentucky, but when you're trying to watch Davidson or some of the historically black colleges those notes are really important. Now the really cool thing about it is basketball is such a family. You can pick up the phone and call somebody and say hey, you know, I got some friends who coaches some HBCUs. I said well, tell me about this school and they're like, oh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah or you know, you call a Bruce Pearl. I said, hey tell me about this kid at Florida. Tell me about Georgia or you know, you know, my sashevsky has been a good sort. I always call Mike. Hey, tell me about this. So Bill Sepp has been a good person to talk to about basketball. So March Madness to me is a lot harder than NBA because listen, I once I watch the Knicks play like five times. You're like, there's no surprises. Yeah, there's no once I was like, you know, once I watch the Denver Nuggets play. I said, oh man, that's going to be a handful for the rest of the season. So the NBA is a lot easier. I yeah, I would imagine the producers just tell you to bake the NBA inside the NBA. They just tell you to let it fly. I would assume for the most part, you're not just well, he always said don't curse don't curse. That's the last thing I always say to me. Did you have a curse on the air? I think I've cursed probably three times in 23 years. It's not a bad ratio. It's not a bad ratio like sometimes you get first like sometimes it gets late and you get excited and you just let one let you let something slide. There's also a difference between saying shit and fuck. I mean, there's you know, it's you know, there's a little balance there. It's not there is a little ballot every now and then like I say, but like say hey at 1 3rd in the morning and then we're joking around and you kind of let your guard down. You'll let a you'll let a profanities slide out. You know, it's funny. I just I just watched on YouTube the other day. It was something with leak. We somebody it was Lee Corso's birthday or something. I went back. He had one of the he had one of the greatest moments in the history of sports television when he cursed on the air. He couldn't get the headgear on we was making the pick and he just throws it he goes off fuck it and Herb Street and Fowler just almost died on the it's one of the all-time great moments and then you know in that situation it works. Leave the guy alone. Yeah, and let me tell you something that is, you know, we're talking about earlier. That is must-see television every Saturday. No, you know, I mean the headgear thing like I said, I watched that show religiously, but the headgear thing is one of the coolest things like, you know, we talked earlier about Dick Vitale who's like he is college basketball. I look at coach Corso the same way with college football his amazing going back to his coaching days. I mean when you think of college football, you got to think of coach Corso. Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to talk to you about two two topics that sort of hit me close to home, which is gambling and weight loss. Let's start with the weight loss. How much you down here now? I'm down 70, you know, that's right. Yeah, it's been great. I started I started at 352 and I'm 285 now I'm gonna get to 270 my plan weight was 250 but I'm gonna get to 270, you know, I got a great doctor. She started me on this drug Monjaro. I think we started in November if I remember correctly, I take a shot once a week. Cuz you know, I gained I peeked out at 352. Cuz you know, I got really go ahead when you peeked out at 352. Tell me what was doing the damage. Was it the carbs? Was it pasta? Was it sweets? What was doing the damage? Well, as the most fat people know is all the above, you know, I you know, I got you know, when I got my new hip which is was one of the best thing ever getting new hips, you know, you know because you can't do anything for months and months and I'm not one of those person who just sit around and eat and not gain weight, but then I was really concerned. I was getting close to 60 which I'm 60 now obviously in February and I was like, my doctor told me he's a man ain't no fat old people. I said, what do you mean? He says ain't no fat old people. They're all dead or got body parts chopped off. He's you got to get in shape man cuz it only gets harder. So a friend of mine. He had lost a lot of weight. How'd you lose all that weight? He says man. I got a great doctor and I met with and they did all the complete physical to make sure I was healthy enough to do anything. She says so I started taking this manjaro. I give myself a shot once a week. Do you are you eating a lot less because of the shot? You know, that's a great question. Jim. I've been asked that question. I wish I could get an example exactly what the drug does like. I mean, obviously I started working out a little bit and eating better, but I don't know what the drug does. I've seen the commercial says some about regulator blood sugar, which I have zero idea what that means, right? But man, I get it gave me a great head start and like I say, I want to get to 270. But when I first started, man, when I would get on that scale and I weighed 352, I'm like, damn, I got a long way to go. Yeah, and she says, hey, you can't get back to your plan weight. And I said, well, how about 272 75? She said perfect. And like I said, I just weighed recently and I was 285 and like I said, I want to lose another 15 pounds, hopefully before the season starts, but I probably got another two months, I think before the season starts. So I want to get to 270. It's hard to lose when the football season starts because that's when, you know, Saturday and Sunday. I'm in front of the TV all day watching football. That's when you sort of, you don't have that discipline. You need those snacks while you're watching the games. Yeah, but you know, two things that I learned. Number one, it takes you a long time to gain weight. So it should take you some time to lose it. But also, you never get fat on one meal, right? You always, you know, you're out when you get friends and they're like, you're like, yeah, I'm not going to eat that piece of cake and you're like, yeah, like that put that piece of cake was going to be the difference between 250 and 295 that one piece of cake. There's a great joke. There's a great joke about Weight Watchers about someone goes to a Weight Watchers meeting and Weight Watchers through the years. It's always about counting the points, counting the points and someone says as a meeting, how many points is an ounce of grapes and someone says, honey, you're not here because of the grapes. That's exactly right. Yeah, exactly. I enjoyed Weight Watchers to be honest with you. Yeah, I really did and I think they got a good product, you know, because really all they do is force you to overdose on the vegetables. Yeah, because it was really crazy. I when I first started with Weight Watchers back when I was doing that commercials, they're like, well, what vegetables do you eat? I say, I don't eat vegetables. I eat corn and rice. Those are my two vegetables. They're like, those aren't vegetables. I said, they are from where I'm from.
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"Wow, thanks grandpa, but he'll never forget how you invested in his future with the you nest app. Wow. Thanks grandpa. Don't just give them any gift give them a gift that can grow with them invite grandparents and family friends to contribute to your child's future with the you nest app you nest is an investment account for kids that makes it easy to gift funds that can be used for college tuition their first home and more just by sharing the link. Or include a you nest QR code on party invitations for birthdays and holidays for a limited time download the you nest app and use the code I heart 50 at sign up to receive a $50 bonus when you fund your account. That's code. I heart 50 when you sign up at UN est.co for a $50 bonus see terms and conditions at you nest.co. You know, you were featured on 60 minutes my colleague and friend John Wertheim did a great job a few months ago on 60 minutes and he he called you cancel proof. Do you feel your cancel proof? I don't know about that, but I will tell you this John was great to work with. You know, I watched 60 minutes religiously. I think there's two shows I watched 60 minutes and real sports with Brian Gumbel. I watched those shows religiously because I think they do a really good job. They ask you tough questions. They're not ever puff pieces and I really enjoy that from Brian and 60 minutes. I trust the public. Like I know when I go on TV, I'm going out there with data net. I'm probably going to say some things. I hope people enjoy it. Are some of the things I've said over the years like whoa but I think people understand like I don't have a victim bone in my body. I just want people to enjoy basketball. Like I say a perfect scenario is really good basketball. But when you're there all night and you're trying to make people enjoy basketball. There's there's times around 1 1 3rd in the morning. I'm trying to be provocative. Trying to make people keep their television set on because like I say we came on at seven o'clock. The longest we were on is probably between one and two. And I'm trying to give people to stay up at one two in the morning, man. And like I say have I can I cross the line? I hope I don't but if I do it wasn't like I said sit at home said hey, let me piss people off. I don't want people just enjoy the show, right? You know inside the NBA you and Ernie and Shaq and Kenny. It's it's pretty much thought of by people in sports media as the greatest studio show of all time. Some people say college game day. They put maybe NFL today with Brett Musburger. Those are the three that always come up your show usually comes up as a more is that important to you? Does that make you happy that you're at that that sort of how you're characterized? Is that something you you're very proud of very proud of that fact because I watch game day every Saturday because like I know football is getting ready to start like, okay. I know football is getting ready to start when game day come on when Cowboy Troy and his group start playing their music. I'm like, okay football. I'm ready for football. I want our show and obviously it has to become I want people to think like oh the NBA. Okay, it's getting ready to start the Turner guys are back, you know, because you know, we've been off since June and we don't come back on until October and when we start buzzing around early October guys talking and training campus starting, you know, people like yo, man, the season's getting ready to start NBA to CBS TNT is back. So yes, that means a great deal, but it really just you know, I hope the fans I mean that's it because I say man that game day thing. I love that game day show. Yeah, and I hope people feel the same way about our show. Yeah, absolutely. And I think you know both shows and I think this is where your show I mean, there's never been a show with chemistry like your show ever did now when Shaq joined. Were you guys seamless in that chemistry was there from day one or did it take because it was you and Ernie and Kenny for a little bit and then Shaq came did it take any time or was was it right from the get-go the way it is now? Well, you know, no it took some time because Shaq the first night Shaq didn't realize that we are on every day pretty much for the next seven months. So like the first couple shows he kept trying to do stuff like out of the box.
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"Well, I like to take a shot at them every now and then because I know it gets under their skin because I get calls from friends of theirs who they work with like, yo, man, you got to do circling over here and I don't do it often but I like to do it every now and then, you know, Jimmy my philosophy is I'm in the media. The guys I don't like and it's only a couple let's be realistic. Yeah, your job. You can't be personal. That's what I hate. You can never be personal when it comes to your criticisms. In my 23 years, even guys who have come at me. That's not one of them who I've talked to private says your man. Do you think what I said was personal? I said, dude, I ain't never said in 23 years. You can never go back at anybody in what I said. No, that's a personal attack. I never talked about their personal life. I just if I criticize a guy, it's going to be 100% basketball or something like the job. A ranch situation. I think that's got a lot to do with nothing to do with basketball him out here acting like a damn fool, but the guys I don't like you can tell when guys have a personal vendetta against a guy and Jimmy to me, that's not cool because television radio anything in the media is so powerful. When we say stuff. People believe it whether it's good or bad and I tell people somebody in Montana, South Dakota, Maine like what Charles Barker said. This guy's an asshole. I'm like they're going to say well, he got to be an asshole. I said no, no, no, no, no. I might say some things about a guy, but you can't say that you can say hey, I disagree the way he played basketball. I disagree some of the stuff he's doing off the court, but it can never be personal because people believe what we say and the guys I go at and like I said, I like digging them every now and then. Hey, I don't wish any ill like people know I don't like Skip Bayless and I really don't like Skip Bayless because his attacks on certain guys. They're personal. They're personal and I don't think when you have a television show or radio show you can attack guys personally just because you don't like them. That's not cool. That's not right. And that don't mean you can't criticize guys dude. I lost my best friend because I criticize him and but I still like guys can always say Charles you might not like him, but he's going to be fair because the situation with Michael always said wait a minute. I criticize other general managers just because the guy's my best friend if I have a double standard that's not fair. I was going to ask if you're tired of talking about the fallout with Jordan because I feel like yes a hundred percent a hundred percent because but you know what you know what Jimmy because they act like we Prince William and Prince Harry Michael got mad about something. I said we have a spoken and then two times a year. I have to defend like your man Michael's doing great Charles doing great. I wish him nothing but the best but like dude, we're not like Prince Harry and Prince William. We're not taking shots and by back door channels all the time Michael's doing great and I'm doing great. You know, it's funny because I I wasn't going to ask you about it because I figured you're sick of I even wrote down like are you sick of talking about Jordan but since we're talking about it. I only had one question really have to do with the fallout what I find fascinating about it is do you guys never bump into each other at functions and events or anything? I would think you would see him at least three four times a year at NBA functions and be golf this that I mean, how do you never bump into each other and then just say hey, let's enough of this shit. Let's let's move on. You know, that's a great question because I think we've actually only bumped not we never got face-to-face or close enough, but I think we've actually only been in the same room like three times in the last 25 years. That's crazy. Like we bought we were in New York at the same hotel for something one time and then at the Hall of Fame one year he had to introduce somebody on stage and I had to introduce somebody on stage and I think the third time was at that 75th anniversary thing and we never got within 25 feet each other but it is but but you know, we don't we don't go to a lot of NBA functions. Like I don't go to NBA games for the simple reason. I had my day, right? I don't want to take away from today's players when when fans go to the game today, they should see the guys who play for the Phoenix Suns and 76ers like every now and then when the retired somebody Jersey or some I'll make an appearance but I don't go to NBA games. I had my day. I don't want people said oh, that's Charles Barker. That's Charles Barker. I had my day when I went when they go to a game. I said hey, there's Devin Booker. Hey, there's Kevin Durant. I want to the fans to notice those guys. I don't want to take away. So that's why I never go to NBA games. I wanted to I want to just tie up inside the NBA a little bit now. I have so many things to ask you other stuff. Sure, you know, I don't keep you fair, but just we mentioned Van Gundy and I wanted to follow up with this about about when we talked about Jeff. Would you have you ever gotten would you say in trouble at Turner for something you've said and and when I say trouble, I don't mean like hey Charles, maybe just like I mean like well, it was like Charles. We got to talk to you about this. Well, my biggest complaint when I get calls from players and coaches.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"And then it let Mark go later, right? But Jeff and you know you in Jimmy you hear all these rumors about the NBA was mad because Van Gundy criticized officials all the time. I'm like, wait a minute. We can't criticize officials. Now, if they're right, we pat them on the back. They're wrong. We should be able to criticize them. I mean we criticize coaches. So I don't know what all the ends are out is if they fired that man laid off fired off. They're the same thing if they fired that man because he was critical of officiating that's a travesty and a disgrace. But let me tell you I thought they did a fabulous fantastic job Mark my brain and Jeff. They were awesome. Yeah. Yeah, and I've said this before in the pod. What makes no sense is like Jeff and Gundy loves the NBA. He's an NBA lifer like he's an ambassador for the game. Yes, and let me tell you something. I won't be shocked. I won't be surprised if he finds his way to Turner. I won't be shocked at all. You can never have enough and shout out coach Van Gundy stand. I know his wife passed away this week and I sent him a text of the cinema text man. So my thoughts of prayers are with him and his family. He has wife passed away this week and you know, I got the text from the Turner family and I sent him a text just tell the man because that's you know, that's nothing you can say in that situation. I said, hey, there's nothing I can say. I just want to tell you I'm thinking about you and your family and thoughts and prayers. But let me tell you something if we hired Jeff and Gundy I'd be it'd be a home run. Yeah, absolutely. It makes sense pair him up with his brother with Kevin Harlan. It can be phenomenal. Oh my God. Would that be awesome or what? How great is Harlan? He's so great. He's the best. Yeah, him and Brian Anderson. Yeah, they're unbelievable. Brian, I am also but what's amazing though? When these guys do these other sports and it's so seamless. Yeah, like I listen to our bra baseball broadcast with Brian and then I watch Kevin's doing football. I was like man to be that talented to go seamlessly from sport to sport. You have to really be talented to do that. Yeah, and those guys are fun to work with but you're right Kevin and BA and Ian man. They great guys to work with. Yeah, I've always wanted to ask you this and we've sort of circled it here because you've called a lot of you've said there are a lot of idiots in sports media a lot of people you hate and and I feel the same way and this is where you and I different I'm curious to get your insight. I'm of the I mean listen, I would say I probably maybe only have three to five people in sports media who I truly hate the test and my philosophy is someone who writes a column every day for Sports Illustrated does a podcast every week is I don't ever write about those people. I don't give them one ounce of ink. I don't give them any attention because that's what they want and I sort of just pretend they don't exist you on the other hand have said you want to kill these people you want to fight these people and to me that gives that's what they want and that gives them some shine that they don't deserve. So I'm curious about your philosophy on on actually naming the awful people.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Yeah, so the guys told me because you knew it's some time. They were going to merge and I wish both guys the best. I had three live guys call me and ask me my opinion. I said, yo, man, take that money. There's no good money. There's no bad money in sports. It's just green. But what was interesting, Jimmy, I had about. 10, well, not renowned sports casters, call me saying, what are you going to do? I said, I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm meeting with Greg, I mean, would live. I'm taking all this serious. They're like. We're all scared to join live, but if you don't, it'll give us a runway. I said, well, wait a minute. You guys don't get the ride on my flag because I like it. I knew I, you know, probably going to take some heat because all my sponsors was on the phone with my agent, like every day, Jimmy for like, what's Charles going to do? He says, Charles is meeting with live. He has not even made a decision, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And when he makes a decision, I mean all my sponsors because probably the biggest hold up with live was I probably was going to lose all my sponsors. So when I told him, I said, well, this is how much money I make from Turner. You're going to have to make up all these endorsements that I'm going to lose. And I'm probably going to want a minimum or a five-year deal. So it's like I say, I was, it was all going to be a lose, lose situation for me. So I took it very serious and I'm glad to be back with Turner, but man, you have to take it seriously. The money they were throwing around, it was crazy. Did they make you an actual offer that you turned down? Did it get that far? It got poor enough. They says, well, how much will it take? And I said, it will take this much for me to give up my Turner aspect. And then before that, what happened after that? Turner says, you're not leaving. We're going to redo your deal. So that's actually Turner came in and said, we're going to redo your deal before. Good, good. So that's actually what really happened. Yeah. Putting the money aside, would you have been happy calling golf? Well, I don't think, listen, you know, Jimmy, I was offered Monday night football one year and I turned it down cause I says, I don't know anything about football. I'm just a fan. I love it. I got to interrupt because we can't let that slide. I want a lot of details on that. Like who was doing the games? Do you, was it, was it Al Michaels back then? Was it recently when it was? No, it wasn't recently. It was probably at least 20 years ago. Okay. Okay. It was at least 20 years ago. Do you know who you would have been working with in the booth? That had to be Michael's. No, because you know, you know who I think they went with this. How long ago? I think they went with Dennis Miller. That's how long ago it was. So that was Al and Dan Deard off. I believe with Dennis. I can't even remember how long ago. It was so long ago and I told him I said guys, I'm really flattered. I want to thank y'all, but I'm a football fan. I don't know football. I don't know all because you know, I got so I you know, me and my friends would degenerates Jimmy so we get together every weekend in my house and watch sports and I got a movie theater in my house and I can break it up into four four quadrants and a couple guys who are retired Hall of Famers blah blah blah. I don't want to throw anybody on the bus because what we do is gamble and they're like, I'm like, how the hell did that quarterback throw that interception? They're like Chuck that wasn't his fault. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like through that receiver ran the wrong route blah blah blah. That's it. Oh, they're like dude every time a quarterback throws and accepted is not his fault. So these guys have taught me out. He says, oh man, they're going to school a touchdown on this play. I'm like, why do you say that? He's just being the wrong defensive coverage. This guy's going to be wide open. And I was like only somebody who actually played the game would know that so I didn't want to get on TV. I first of all, we got enough jackasses on television. Jimmy who act like they know about every sport which drives me crazy when I hear a guy said well, he's not a good quarterback. Well, he's not a good pitcher. He's not a good basketball player. I says well first of all, everybody's in the pros is a good player. Are they all LeBron or KD or somebody like that? No, they're not but all these guys can play but I never want to get on television say a professional athlete sucks out of support. I'll never do that. If if one of these networks today CBS, NBC, Amazon ESPN, they came to you and they said Chuck one night just for shits and giggles just for some fun get permission from Turner. We want you in the booth for to call one NFL game. Would you do it that way? Would you buy would you have fun with it now? A hundred percent, you know, there's we used to some idiots at Turner and ESPN. They pissed me off so bad a few years ago because I've always wanted to do a game with Dick Vitale. Right. Okay, especially especially when we started doing March Madness. I says guys because behind the scenes, they're like little bickering women sometimes like why do you have to go on the ESPN? I said those guys are friends of mine. They're like, why are you going there? So much. That's it. First of all, Mike Wilbon is one of my best friends in the world and PTI is my favorite show on ESPN. I said anytime Mike Wilbon won't be on the show might be on it. What do you have to go on Sports Center? That's the guys. We're not in competition. We're all trying to make basketball popular. So they got their guys come on sometimes our guys come on sometimes it's not a competition. So I tried to talk him into they hate let me and Dick Vitale do a game and then let him come on. Yes on TNT and do a game. We ought to be great. It'll be fuck dick's a legend. Yep, and it'd be fun to do but that powers it be like nah, we don't think that's a good idea. I said, you know, you're right. It's not a good idea. It's a great idea. Once you guys check your damn Eagles at the door. We're not in competition. We're not on the same nights or anything. It shows it's it's so short-sighted. It's first of all, no one from Turner should complain about you ever being on ESPN. It makes you and and Turner it elevates you that ESPN wants you on there and it's good for that. Also. I can tell you this about Dick Vitale. It's funny. I there are a couple of years in a row recently where when the tournament started I wrote a column saying ESPN and CBS need to work something out where dick can go to CBS and call a March Madness game because he's never done in his career and I wrote it two or three years in a row and fans love the idea and I spent dick called me one day and we spoke about it and he said that CBS did offer it to him one year or maybe more than one year, but he declined and he said no out of respect to ESPN. Now. I want to be very careful here because I don't ever want to sit here and say dick Vitale is a liar. I don't want that to but I don't fully believe that story. I think maybe ESPN said dick. We don't why would dick not want to do it. I mean the guy like you said is a legend. He's synonymous with college basketball. He's never called a tournament game in his life, which is ridiculous. Let the guy and if he said no out of respect ESPN ESPN should have said to dick dick. You're going to do this. Yeah. Yeah. It's just ridiculous. I don't know the ends out like you said, but the different tiles never call a NCAA game is a travesty on a disgrace to be honest with you to both networks CBS to reach out to Dick Vitale personally the guys that ESPN says hate the guy is are if I told there's no guy love college basketball more than Dick Vitale right in the history in the history of the world. Nobody has been a more positive influence on college basketball than Dick Vitale. So the notion that ESPN or Turner or CBS head honchos are so stuck up with their ego that they wouldn't want Dick Vitale doing a game. That's just stupid. Yeah. Yeah. But the takeaway here is if you're Amazon or ESPN or CBS or NBC or Fox get Charles in the NFL booth for one game. He'll do it. That's I love it. I love it. Now you mentioned we're talking broadcasting here. I'm curious. Did you have any risk? Did you have a reaction when you saw that ESPN let Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson go especially Van Gundy who was well thought of as the best analyst in the sport, you know, they had layoffs they claim budget. I don't know if you like the best analyst in a sport goal, even if it's budgetary reasons, but what was your reaction to that because I was huge news in the NBA world. Yeah, you know, I will say it because both guys I consider friends both guys are I consider friends and I thought first of all, I love the guys we have working at Turner. We did we got fantastic crews, but I would text Van Gundy ESPN game them guys had me on the floor Howland and I was really surprised really surprised. And I'm just surprised and shocked.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Will you be betting the Notre Dame Navy game? Yeah, I probably will. I think the last time I saw it was 20 right around 20. Yes. There's no day. I saw 20 and a half Notre Dame. I knew I saw I was started because I started looking earlier in the week. So it's a scary game because you don't know anything about either team, right? You know, the Notre Dame has a new offensive coordinator, new quarterback and everything. So it's gonna be in the Navy. You know, those Navy dudes going to be very disciplined hard work the games in Ireland. So you have no idea about fan base or whatsoever. But so I'm gonna look closer to that game, but to be the team by three touchdowns in the regular season opener. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot and you got the over under 49 and a half if you want to dabble in that. Yeah, I might listen. I'm actually leaning at the under. I'm not going to lie because I'd have zero idea. I want to talk gambling a little bit later on, but let me just wrap up this whole thing about your future. One last question. How serious was the live business? I mean, there were all these reports. You would go there. There's a thing with Dan Patrick. It didn't work out in the end. I never thought you would leave Ernie and Shaq and Kenny. I don't know, but the money was the money. How serious was that? How far did it get? Well, I had to take it serious. You know, I talked to so Mike Wilbon, Brian Gumbel, Greg Gumbel, Omar Rashad. These guys have all been mentors to me throughout my career. And Brian Gumbel asked to say it the smartest thing out of all the guys because every guy told me to take the meeting. It's like, dude, you got to take the meeting. You got to take the meeting. You never know what might happen. But Brian Gumbel said the most interesting thing. He said, Chuck, you need to take the meeting. You need to take little seriously. I said, why do you say that? He says, because in three years, they're going to be together. And he said, if you turn down a lot of money, you're going to look like a fool. He said, they're going to merge in three years. He called me like six months later. He said, I just want to apologize for being wrong. It only took a year.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"So I want to get into so many things with you about inside the NBA and then just some current topics. It's funny, let's start right off the bat with this. You know, it was reported that you signed a 10 year deal recently with, I always, I still say Turner. I think it's Warner Brothers Discovery. It wasn't that long. Is it a 10 year deal? Well, yes. Number one, yes. But they wanted me to let people know I wasn't leaving like next week. There's no chance in hell. I'm going to be working when I'm 70, zero, but they said, hey, let's just make people think you're going to hang around because, you know, I'll be honest with you. That's the only thing that really kissed me up at night. To be honest with you trying to figure out when, when's the best time to walk away because the one thing you don't want to do is stay too long. What's interesting is I can't believe I've been doing this shit 23 years. That's what's crazy. I mean, that's a long time. So what really keeps me up at night to be flat out honest with you and I and I don't know the right or the wrong answer. When's the best time to walk away? You want to walk away while the show is still successful or you want to go like, hey, man, we're really sick of seeing y'all face after all these years. So that's really the only thing that keeps me up late at night, trying to figure out what's the best way to leave. You say there's no way you're doing this at 70. Why not? I mean, if, if the people, I mean, your, your show is so highly regarded. NBA fans love that show. You have a lot of cachet with the players, the league, if it's still going now, listen, who knows 10 years from now, obviously it's a long time, but if it's going strong, why walk away? Well, I think that number one, I'm very realistic about age. First of all, it's really awesome that I'm 60. I never thought I'd see 60. And for me, I know that, and I don't mean to be morbid. I'm not worried about death. I have to go tomorrow, man. I've had a good run. I think for me, I want to, I don't want to be working at the end of my life. I want to, you know, man, I will tell you this, you know, two of my mentors are Ernie Johnson and Clark Kellogg. And they told me being a grandpa was going to be the greatest thing in the world, Jimmy. And let me tell you something. They are right. I mean, I, uh, little Henry and the little girls, she's new Henry's 16 months. And little Charlie is like five months. And it's, it's the best thing ever happened to me by far in my life. And I'm starting, Henry's starting to walk and run and, and Charlie's just still obviously a newbie. But like, I want to, when they're eight, nine, 10, I want to be around them. But like I say, I won't be around when they get older. Right. I mean, like I say, I don't, I'm not even worried about death. I'm not morbid. I like, I want to spend time with them while I can. And that's my main motivation. You said little, little Charlie's five years old, five months, five months, five months. Okay. So, so neither one of them yet have any reaction to grandpa being on TV yet. We got, we still got a little Henry. When I FaceTime him, I, you know, he's like, he's so young. He's like, what the hell is that? The dude come around. So I'm just trying to get him into FaceTime right now, but it's the coolest thing ever. Yeah. And you know, it's funny because you did say for years and years, um, you would retire. You don't want to die on the air. You don't want to be old on the air. And then, you know, we get the word of the 10 year contract. Now I had, I had Kenny Smith, your partner on this podcast a couple of years ago. And at that time your future was still up in the air. We didn't know what was going on. And I want to just play you the audio of what Kenny said about you here. This was about two years ago on this podcast. Shelby hit that clip for Charles, please. I thought he was retired. He only works one day a week until like, what are we supposed to do? Like you only work one day a week until isn't that retirement? Like, isn't that retirement? You would be a consultant like one day a week for some big company. And like, you're not going to be there every day. He's not there every day. He's only there until May. We did like three weeks in a row. And then we go back to one day a week. Like you retired, bro. You're not going to be tired. You already retired. This the job is retirement. What do you think about that? Well, I think the difference between me and Kenny Kenny still having kids. Jimmy. He's got two youngins. So like he needs the money. So he got to keep working to the day. They strip him off television, you know, like I say, I think you have to leave like John Madden to me was like, hey, leave while you still people still want to see you. You know, most of us, especially guys who play sports, you play till you suck. You know, no, I can't. I can't think of any guy who retired when he still had anything left in the tank. Probably Jim Brown to last guy. So I kind of look at TV the same way. What's wrong with leaving while things are still going good. Why? Why get to the point where you're like, yo, man, Charles Barkley 72 years old. He still got his fat ass on television. Like I don't want to see that. So I gave them my word. I would stay for at least two more years to the new deal is up. There's going to be some the next two years. Jimmy are going to be very interesting with the Apple situation with the Amazon situation because I know Turner is nervous. I know ESPN is nervous that Apple and Amazon are going to come in and take some or all of the NBA packages. Yeah, so that actually to be honest with you, that's really the next time I'm going to have to make a major decision. So I ain't going to I'll have nothing to worry about for the next two years, but the whole sports landscape in the NBA is going to change in the next two years when Apple and Amazon start bidding on the NBA properties. Yeah, I was going to ask you about how closely you're paying attention to that. And this is a total hypothetical, but I'll throw it out there because I think it's I think people would really want to know this. If if there was a scenario where Turner lost the NBA and I know Turner said that I keep saying Turner, but we know what I mean. They want to keep it and let's say it went to Amazon and there's heavy talk that NBC is going to get back in the game. And let's say Warner doesn't have the NBA anymore. Would you go to another network or would you or would you because I what I think could happen if if Warner lost it, I think you'd see a company try to get all four of you meaning Ernie, Shaq, Kenny and you. Would you go solo? Would you only go with them or would you not go at all if you had to go somewhere else? That's a great question. That's a great question. I wouldn't go by myself. You know, and I would find it hard to go without Ernie to be honest with you, you know, obviously me, Kenny and Shaq are close. But Ernie is the guy. So I would have to look if they were going to bring those guys, but also if they had other guys in mind who to partner with the good thing about it. I got a two-year window that I don't have to worry about anything, right? But I like your question. It's a great question. I just don't know because I don't think because You know, Ernie. Ernie is the one guy we probably have to worry about more than anybody walking away. I can say I'm going to stay at least two more years, but Ernie, I know he's taught with the idea of leaving in the next couple of years also. So like I say, it's going to be a very interesting next couple of years because nobody knows because Amazon and Apple got so much damn money. They might just outbid ESPN and Turner. Yeah, so I don't know if it's this is my age, but I hate the thought of a sport going to streaming only like yes, I'd you know, I still want them to have some presence on tell and I understand no one under 35 watches television. It's tough these days, but you know, we're seeing it the NFL, you know, they put their Sunday ticket on on YouTube. Yeah, you know, I'd hate to see the NBA not be anywhere on broadcast. So hopefully ESPN, Warner, they can, you know, come through with the NBA needs and then settle that. Yeah, it's going to be interesting, but you know, man, these owners, they just care about the almighty dollar. You know, I wish people, you know, people get a players a hard time. I said, I actually think players really want to win. That's the sports part of me. I think players really want to win and I think fans really, really want to win. Owners, I think it's more of a business to them. You know, I do I listen and I don't and listen, that's not the wrong with it being a business. But if you look at the sporting landscape, you know, we've been building these guys billion-dollar stadiums on tax paradigms screwing them for many, many years. I think there should be a rule in sports. If your team doesn't make the playoffs or you are not above 500, you can't raise ticket prices. I think they should make that a factor in every single sports. If you don't make the playoffs or your team is below 500, you should not be able to raise your ticket prices. I think that would be a great way for us to show some, some, some love to the fans because some of these teams sucks for year after year and they just keep raising ticket prices. I don't think that's fair. You hit me close to home because I'm a diehard Yankees fan. Then they've lost nine. This is the worst season in ages. And what kills me about it, I'm glad you said that about the owners because what kills me about it is now listen, as a Yankee fan, I can't complain from the standpoint of my team spends a ton of money on payroll. But what kills me is, and this sort of ties into everything going to streaming, for instance, is the mom and dad or the mom and mom or dad and dad, whoever it is, two kids, they want to go to a game. $40 to park, $10 for a hot dog, $10 for a bottle of water. At some point, I feel like this is all has to burst. The dam has to burst at some point. What you're doing to the regular fan and you know, the corporate fan, the Knicks, here's a perfect, the Knicks have sucked for forever until this year. Every day, every night, MSG sold out because of the corporations, the companies. So you don't send the message. And what's the, what's the impetus for James Dolan to fix the team. He's making all his money. The Yankees right now, they don't care about making the world world series. They want, they want to just make the money from people on the games and that's it. And it's, it's a bummer. It is a bummer, but that's why I think we should start penalizing teams that suck. And there's the only way to do that is with ticket prices because man, that's one. Sports people have a really ace in the hole. People love freaking sports. I mean, I love sports. Like I am so excited for football season right now. Like Saturday, college starts Saturday. I know that I'm going to get football every week for the next six or seven months. I am so popular football and boxing are my two favorite sports. I cannot wait for this weekend to get here. I mean, cause man, I love football is I love football and I cannot wait.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Trainor. Thank you so much for listening. This is a milestone show. Guess I've been trying to get for five years. Charles Barkley is on the program and Chuck could not have been any better. 90 minutes, a million topics. I'm not going to sit here and list everything and sell it. It's Charles Barkley for 90 minutes on everything. And then following Charles, we have train of thoughts with Salicata. So check that out. So I'm going to go quick here so we can get to it. If you've missed any recent episodes, go on the archives, check them out. Peter Schrager from Good Morning Football last week. Chris Madog Russo two weeks ago. Great episodes, great feedback. So give those a listen. Subscribe to SI Media with Jimmy Trainor. Rate and review on Apple. We'll read it on an upcoming episode. All right, here we go. Charles Barkley followed by train of thoughts all right here right now. On SI Media with Jimmy Trainor. All right, joining me now. It's a biggie. I've tried for five years and I finally have probably the most influential person in sports media. Charles Barkley. How you doing, man? Wait, first of all, don't be talking to flunkies and all these other losers. Just the first time you sent me a text, I answered right away and I told you I was a big fan. So don't be going through these flunkies trying to get to me. Just send me a text and we're good. I've been going through flunkies for five years. I didn't have your number. It's not easy to get Charles Barkley's number. And then when I got it, I was like, should I, this is Charles Barkley. Am I actually going to text Charles Barkley? You know, it's funny. I, you know, I get interviewed once in a blue moon by other podcasters or what have you people into the fact that I work at what's Illustrated. And I always, I always get asked, who are your dream podcast guests? Who are your dream podcast guests? And I always say The Rock, Larry David, and Charles Barkley. So we got one down, two to go. Well, I will tell you this about The Rock. He's one of the nicest people I've ever met who's a superstar. Yeah, I actually met him when he was in college. When he was playing football in Miami. That's how long I've known him. And I've been a big wrestling fan forever. And I'm so proud of his success because he's just such a good person. You want to, you want to see good people succeed. Yes, absolutely. You know, he's, he's been very, I don't think he's ever going to, he's not a podcast guy. He doesn't do podcasts. I'm not expecting him to ever come on, but he's been very nice to me, sort of with me stalking him on Twitter and stuff. He's handled it well. So he seems like a really great, great guy.
"barkley" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
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A highlight from Charles Barkley
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A highlight from Part 1: USAs World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and The OC 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons
"Coming up, an unexpected two -part podcast cameo from me. It's next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where we turned over Sean Fennesey and Amanda Dobbins' big picture feed to Brian Raftery. It's a narrative podcast called, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. You can find it on the big picture starting on Tuesday. And it is an idea I'm really excited about because it came from a class that I did as a senior in college in 1992. Me and my friend Horgs talked a movies professor into doing a special Vietnam War movies class where we watched basically every Vietnam War movie that had been made up to 1992 and then tried to write a big picture term paper about it. And the thing that was really fascinating about that class and something that stuck with me was just that whole concept of Hollywood reinventing the entire Vietnam experience under the premise of, Did We Get to Win This Time? So we got Brian involved and he turned the idea into an awesome, awesome podcast. I even went and dug up the term paper that I wrote 31 years ago. I thought it was gonna be horrendous. It wasn't bad. I was kind of proud of myself, retroactively 31 years later. Anyway, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. It is gonna be in the big picture podcast starting on Tuesday. So that's one piece of business. Second, new rewatchables on Monday night. It is the 300th movie that we've done. It's a special one. We're doing National Lampoon's Vacation. It was time. Meet Chris Ryan, Van Lathan. Yeah, and Van was pushing for it because we wanted to do Christmas Vacation during the holidays and you can't do Christmas Vacation. If we do National Lampoon's Vacation, super fun. Can't wait for you to listen to it. And we'll be running the video at some point on the YouTube channel, youtube .com slash Bill Simmons, where we put up a whole bunch of rewatchables podcasts in case you missed it. Boogie Nights is up there now. Goodfellas, Independence Day, just a slew of them. So if you're bored and you wanna throw on some rewatchables and watch us make fun of each other, there you go. Last but not least, I don't wanna say this is the most important, but it's certainly the thing I spent the most time on. Our documentary that we did about the G League with Religion of Sports and Ringer Films, we combined, and it is premiering on Tuesday, August 8th. It is called Destination NBA, A G League Odyssey. It's really good. We immersed ourselves into the G League season. We followed Scoot Henderson, Gabe York, Ryan Terrell, Mason Jones, and Denzel Valentine. And the big question was, what is this world like? What's it like to be in the G League? And I am really proud of where we landed with it. And we even have, much later in this podcast, Gabe York is gonna come on. He's one of the five that we followed, and he's gonna tell us what it's like as you're holding on to your dream in your late 20s. We try not to spoil the doc too much with Gabe, but I really liked him. He's probably the guy that jumps out of the doc in the most sympathetic way. So look forward for you to watch it. It is prime video, Tuesday, August 8th, Destination NBA. A G League Odyssey. You love basketball, just watch it, it's good. So there you go. This is gonna be part one of a two -part podcast. Gabe is coming up later. My daughter Zoe Simmons is coming up later because we did a whole bunch of OC stuff on the Prestige TV podcast. I was even on two of the episodes. But I ended up watching season one of the OC. And my daughter was watching with us and loved the show. And she was born a year and a half after it premiered. So me and her broke down season one from the perspective of what is it like when somebody 18 watches the OC, a show that is now two decades old. The anniversary was actually August 6th. And what she liked, what she didn't like, what people aren't doing anymore for her kind of audience. And we just dove into it. So that is much later. First, coming out of the gate, I'm gonna open a six -pack because we have a lot to discuss over the past three weeks, all the stuff I missed. So that's gonna be part one. And then part two, which is gonna go up later on Sunday night, me and Rossello doing this evergreen idea that we've always wanted to do. And this seemed like the perfect time because nothing's happening in basketball. So that's gonna be part two later tonight. Part one coming up. First, our friends from ProJax. What's up? All right, I'm taping this. It is Sunday afternoon Pacific time. And I'm gonna open a six -pack. There's a bunch of stories in sports and culture that happened over the last three weeks. I was just writing stuff down, things that would have been fun for podcast segments. I was just like, man, I wish I could have given my thoughts on that. Just gonna rip through them. So I have six and then maybe a couple bonus ones at the end. The first one, the biggest one, was the US women's soccer team, which lost today in penalty kicks to Sweden, scored zero goals in the last two games, scored one goal in the last three games, and that was off a corner kick. You could feel from the beginning that something was off with this team. It was all the ways. You knew in a checklist of what are the red flags? There were just red flags galore. And the only person who was really calling it out in time over and over again was Carli Lloyd, who was doing the Fox studio show. And she was the one person in the horror movie who knows the house is haunted. And everyone's like, shut up. You're not being patriotic. You just wish you were still on the team. She was right. She was right from the get -go. This team, you could see it before the Vietnam game when it was like, look at the new Nike suits. Look at these new suits. And they're all like styling as they head into the locker room. And they're running commercials. And every player has a commercial. There's players who've never done anything of that commercials. And the vibe was just off. They only beat Vietnam three -nothing in a bracket where goal differential was gonna be super -duper important. And that was a huge red flag. And we did the usual thing that we've been doing since 2019, 2015 of, oh, well, they almost scored a bunch of times. Oh, well, if that had gone in or some bad luck. There was just an arrogance to this team. Like they were carrying themselves like the defending champs, the same way like the Denver Nuggets would go into next NBA season. Like we're the champs. I was like, yeah, you are the champs because the season just happened. The World Cup happened four years ago. Everyone's four years older or wasn't on the team. And you could see they wanted to build the team instead of around the identity of, here are these new up and coming awesome stars that are gonna be in your life. They were really latching on to Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe. Alex Morgan's 34, Megan Rapinoe's 37. I think one of the differences between the discourse with women's sports and men's sports is that in men's sports, we grasp for angles. And if somebody is disappointing in some way, we really go nuts. Like think of how James Harden's been treated over the last 12 years. So he's one of the 35 best players ever and has taken just an incredible amount of shit. Oh my God, the playoffs, look at his game log. Oh, he choked again. Alex Morgan, who scored twice in her first two games in the World Cup in 2011, she scored once in 2015 in seven games. She scored six times in 2019, five against Thailand in a game that was 13 to nothing, one in the other six, and then scored nothing in the four games this time around. If you take away that Thailand game, she has scored two goals in the last 17 World Cup games. This is the striker. This is the one who's supposed to be the most dangerous player in the field, who's supposed to produce goals. And she hasn't produced goals since the mid 2010s on the national level. And yet it's Alex Morgan. She was supposed to be the next one. We got to keep propping her up and pretending she's a superstar. She's not a superstar. She's really honestly never been a superstar. She certainly hasn't been as impactful as somebody like Abby Wambach was. So you have the team built around her. She's got to play. They play her the entire game, game two, the entire game, game three. She plays like 95 minutes in this game today, and they don't score goals. And the announcers just won't talk about it. It's like being on an AYSO team that your kid's on, and the coach is playing somebody at striker, and everyone's like, why don't they play Sally at striker instead of the coach's daughter? It's like, oh, you know, the coach's daughter. She's got to play there. So you have that, and then you have Rapinoe, who's 37 years old, who's just, unfortunately, great career, legendary, true legend, huge big time player. And when you hit your late 30s in soccer, it's a wrap. She looked like Yudana Rapinoe, not big Rapinoe, and comes out for the last 25 minutes of this game and can't do anything, and then misses the penalty kick. That's the thing. If you're beholden to past performance, you can't expect to succeed in the moment. And I did feel like, what were this team's strengths? Speed. They had Sophia Smith, who really was bad the last three games on the left wing. Like, she just, she couldn't even connect passes. Trinity Rodman, who's a beast. Lynn Williams, who's super fast and athletic and had some really nice moments the last two games. And then Alyssa Thompson, who's the prodigy, who's the, you know, potential tiger or LeBron of this team. 18 years old, best high school player I've ever had. They won't even throw her out there. But this was not a team that could connect passes. They weren't, like, especially creative. The coaching was just bizarre, and we'll never see that guy again. But it was like, the one thing they did have was speed, especially the forwards, and they just threw that away. And Alex, you know, couldn't do anything. So now they're out. It's the most disappointing finish of the last 25 years for the women's team. And it reminds me in a lot of ways that 2004 Olympic basketball team that we had, the USA team. And I tweeted this, I think after the second game, because that was a team that was between eras, like this one was, where all the best players on that 2014, the ones in their primes, weren't that good, except for Duncan. And Duncan was completely banged up. He'd played so many NBA games the last couple of years. I think his knee was hurt. But, you know, it was Iverson and Marbury. The talent, it just was a between eras. And you had guys on the bench, like LeBron and Carmelo and Wade, who were four years away. Kobe wasn't on the team. And it just felt generationally, like we caught that team in the wrong time. The style was wrong. And we learned all these lessons and we moved on. 2008, we win. There's a documentary about it. But this team felt like it was between eras. The Alex Morgan, Rapinoe era, which was basically done. And then you have this era coming up with Rodman and Sophia Smith and Alyssa. And, you know, it's just four years from now, we'll probably be fine. But they need to re -imagine this. And I think if you're gonna learn any lesson from this, it doesn't matter what happened four years ago. It's the World Cup. It matters what's happening now. So that's one thing. Second thing. So Jaylen Brown gets this huge contract, $304 million. Some people seem surprised that it was that much money. Chris Ryan even took a shot at it when we did our library watchables. Hurt my feelings a tiny bit. Mainly because I didn't really have a comeback. Rosella did something on his podcast about how this actually makes sense. This amount of money, when you think of how the salary cap has climbed just since 2015, and it's gonna keep climbing. And there's this world you can go into where you think about just how much everything is gonna cost in the NBA four or five years from now, that Jaylen Brown at $70 million isn't actually gonna be that intimidating. The same way we feel about Tobias Harris for $40 million now, or Klay Thompson, $40 million now. Yeah, you don't really wanna pay $40 million for Klay Thompson, but you can survive it. And I think that's gonna be where the Celtics land with Jaylen. Here's why they had to do it. They're the favorites on FanDuel right now. They're plus 470. The thing that made them the most special and has made them the most special for the last five, six years is the Jaylen Brown -Jason Tatum combo. They've been incredibly successful. The team itself has made five conference finals in the last seven years. They came super close to making the finals last year. I have now gone into the what if zone with that Celtics team where what if Tatum doesn't hurt his ankle on the first play? Do we beat Miami? They were close is the point. And when you're that close, you can't fuck around. This is not Bradley Beal resigning with Washington for 50 million a year when everybody knows you can't get past the eight seed with Bradley Beal. This is different. You're trying to win a title. You're trying to keep all your optionality open. The thing that's a little scary about it, nobody seems to totally know if he wants to be in Boston. This is something we've discussed on this pod. It's been floating out there. The fact that he wasn't happy about landing in the Kevin Durant trade rumors a couple years ago. And just in general, where the league is now, where as Woj called it, the transfer portal, where people get their contract first and then they decide what they want to do. And I think for the Celtics, they know they bought themselves a year with Jalen and they are still one of the favorites to win the title. And a lot of it's going to depend on health and Porzingis. You could also, I don't want to make the case, but you might be able to make the case that Brown had a fucked up hand last year. Cause he did. Cause he sliced his hand open. It was bleeding even during the Philly series. And maybe that was why his ball handling went sideways. Listen, you got to do the contract. It just breaks your brain. I remember a million years ago, Sports Illustrated and Inside Sports say every year they would have like a salary issue. And they would talk about these guys are making $1 million a year. And it seemed like so much money. And now where we're heading with the money, plus the NBA is the meteorites deal. The moment any of these guys becomes unhappy, what do you do? Because you're paying Jalen, let's say you're paying him 55 million a year. Plus he is the trade kicker, which the team has to pay. Right? So if he decides after a year, you know what? I'm tired of being the scapegoat. Everybody loves Jason. I'm like the middle brother of this team. I want my own team. I want to go to Houston or Atlanta. You got to trade me. What are the Celtics going to do? On top of who would want out, you don't have a lot of options and you turn into what the situation Portland's in with Deem. And then on top of it, it's so much money. It's impossible to get any sort of a fair trade for the guy. So they had to do it. And optionality the that comes out of it is frightening. I remember in the early 2000s, when the first time the contracts kind of went nuts and you would see that people get signing like six -year, $100 million deals, seven -year, $110 million deals. And the Celtics really, really stupidly traded for Vin Baker. One of the worst trades of the last 30 years for Boston Sports. A trade so bad, you knew it instantaneously. And I wrote a piece that you can probably find somewhere in the ESPN archives about it, where I compared it to the end of Thelma Louise when Harvey Keitel is running toward the cliff trying to stop the car from going off the cliff. That's how I thought about the Vin Baker trade when it happened. Then it happens and you just had this salary albatross. It's a salary cap league. And you're like, wow, we just threw away 20 % of our salary cap on this trade. There's going to be a couple of those that are just franchise killers. And whether that leads to them bringing back the amnesty clause, who knows? I wish, I've made this, I've had this idea before. I wish that they had a rule in there that if you drafted a guy, every year that he stays in the team, you get rewarded in some way from a salary cap luxury tax type thing, right? So Jaylen was 2016 draft, this would be his eighth year. Maybe like after the seventh year, because that's usually like the third contract. The guy stays in the team, maybe each year after that, he doesn't count for 2 % of the luxury tax, up to like 30%, something like that. The point is the Warriors should be rewarded for keeping Draymond and Klay and Curry from a tax standpoint, that they were that smart to draft those guys, keep those guys together. They should be incentivized, the players, to want to stay with them because there's some luxury tax stuff that the team gets. And the team should want to be incentivized to take care of those guys because it's also beneficial to them. I just wish they figured out some version of that rule. Anyway, Jaylen was always signing for $304 million. Talk to me in a year, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Next thing, I missed the running back pity party. This was crazy. The running backs all got together and they were really upset about how much money they made. And I don't know what to tell you. There's too many running backs and not enough running back spots. And I don't know if you're trying to build a responsible salary cap team in a collectively bargained era, why would you spend $30 million over two years on a running back unless the running back was awesome? Nobody even wants to spend more than $11 million on running back. So I knew that this was crazy when Damien Harris, who was on the Patriots, who I thought was really good. He's maybe not an elite running back, but a good running back, right? Somebody that if he had been on the Chiefs, he easily could have started for the Chiefs. And he signed with the Bills for like one year, 2 million. And when that happened, combined with Pacheco on the Chiefs' seventh round pick, they won the Super Bowl with him. It's just, this position's devalued. I work on this player, I've been actually working on it the last couple of weeks where I try to rank the players for blue chippers, red chippers, pink chippers, honorable mention, and have this whole point system. And so quarterbacks, Mahomes, who's the alpha of that position, he's worth 10 points. And you could even see this in the point spread. If Mahomes gets hurt, the Chiefs are 10 points, nine points, whatever, less than what they would be as a favorite. They'd switch to an underdog. And you go on down the line. Jalen Hurts, I had him as an eight. I had Joe Burrow as a nine. And you go on, you keep going down, and it's like, Geno Smith's probably a two. But then you look at some of the other positions and you have to value them the same way the salary cap values them and teams value them. Guards, they aren't worth that much. Running backs, sorry, they're not worth that much. My top running back was three points because ultimately running backs don't really matter that much. In the last like five, six years, I would say Derrick Henry was the only running back that you could definitively say, this guy almost won the Super Bowl. Like he was that good. Other than that, you know, it's plug and play, quarterbacks, it's receivers. It's much harder to find the number one receiver. Every team needs one. It's much more tangible if you don't have the number one receiver. And it's much easier to just kind of scrap together the running back position. And yet people went nuts about this. We ironically had this in the NBA with centers. You know, Vucevic, who's a really good offensive player, he signed for 60 million for three years, 20 million a year. And Jaylen Brown's going to make $52 million a year. Is Jaylen Brown two and a half times better than Vucevic? No, it's just, he plays a way more important position. You can only play one center at a time. You can patch together the center position. You could have like Isaiah Hartenstein for $8 million. You could, you know, get Robert Williams for 16. You don't need to spend what Phoenix did on Eaton where they're paying $8 and $30 million a year at center. And you don't really need to do that. You kind of feel obligated if you don't want to lose the asset. But I think the NBA is going to go this way eventually where unless it is Jokic or Embiid, the center or Bam Adebayo, it's a bonus. You could argue that was already an overpay. They gave him a huge extension. The Lakers just gave Anthony Davis $60 million a year as an extension. I would argue that's a little frightening. I feel like you could patch together the center position. What really matters in basketball is having the creator. And this was the argument five years ago with Luka versus Eaton for the number one pick. And I made this argument. It was like, go look at who wins the NBA title every year. It's always the people who have the creator. There's somebody who's on the perimeter of the ball in their hands. Even Jokic, who wins the title this year, he was a creator. He's not a typical center, right? He's basically their point guard on offense who could post up. So this happened in the NBA. Nobody went nuts. And this is happening in football. And is this where football is. If you want to make the most amount of money playing in the NFL, I don't know why you would be a running back. I would be a cornerback. I would be a wide receiver. I'd be an edge rusher. But if you're a running back, you know your shelf life's probably like five, six years. You know the money is not totally gonna be there. Now they're in this, like you have people like JK Dobbins, like, I might hold out. It's like, really? You didn't barely even play in the field. Barkley said he was gonna hold out. And then, you know, probably looked at it. And the money for Barkley is like 10, 11 million. That's unfortunately the market. So you can't fix this. They collectively bargained it. And until we get to the next CBA, I don't know how you fix it. I thought it was really weird. It felt like people had nothing to talk about. And it was like, ah, let's feel bad for running backs. All right, let's take a break. And then I'm gonna finish the rest of the six pack. All right, picking up on the six pack. We're gonna talk a little more football. I talked about the running back pity party. This is a different kind of party. The Jets optimism, which has just been stunning to me over the course of July. I have Jets fans in my life. These are people that usually have no hope and are very reminiscent of the pre -2004 Red Sox fans, just assuming the worst at all times. Why does God hate us? All that stuff. And now they have this crazy optimism based on the fact that they brought in Aaron Rodgers, who I did not think was very good last year, just throwing that out there. I wouldn't say he was bad, but for Rodgers, he was bad. I mean, we thought Rodgers was, he was the reigning MVP and we thought he was still one of the five or six most impactful players in the league. And I don't wanna read stats to you for the next six minutes, but deep balls, he was bad. Turnovers, he was bad. Leadership, he was bad. And the case for Rodgers coming back would be, well, he's gonna be rejuvenated. The Jets, New York City. This is his team. He got away from Green Bay. He's got Hackett back. I get it, but he's also at an age where we've really only seen Tom Brady succeed at a high, high level at the age that Rodgers is at. I was trying to figure it out. I have my QB ratings and I had, you know, the top tier is Mahomes and Burrow and Allen and Herbert and Hertz. Those have to be the top five. Then it drops off and it's Lamar Jackson and Lawrence. And then Rodgers, probably a hair underneath him with a chance to play himself up with those guys. But from what we saw last year, I'm not ready to put him there. So he's the 10th best quarterback in the league, probably. 10th or ninth best quarterback in the league, probably. Well, they have no offensive line. And I don't understand why people keep glossing over this where it's like, hey, Rodgers and Garrett Wilson, he's one of the best receivers in the league and Breece Hall's going to come back and the defense is really good. And it's like, yeah, the offensive line is terrible. Beckton and Dwayne Brown, sure tackles again. And then you have Robert Salah as the coach, who I cannot say I thought that Jets were crisply coached last year. Whatever he was doing with Zach Wilson was insane. No idea if that guy's even a decent coach. So I'm already worried about your offensive line, the age of your quarterback, and the competency of your coach. And that's before we get into the hard knocks curse, because for some reason they're doing hard knocks, the incredible Super Bowl hype already. And then we have the schedule, which is the AFC East has just got screwed by the schedules this year. The Jets, just for quarterbacks in 17 games, they got to play Josh Allen twice, they got to play Mahomes, Herbert, Hertz, Dak Prescott, and Deshaun Watson. And then they also have to play Miami twice. We'll see what we get out of two this year. And then a really good Pats defense. And then Denver, who knows, they might be rejuvenated. So Danny Dimes, they have to play him. It is a brutal schedule, so you have that. And then on top of everything else, you're the Jets. I was there with the Red Sox before 2004, and this is probably just as bad, where you just think the worst possible things can happen is all the time. You're not allowed to have optimism when you're Jets fans. You can be cautiously optimistic. There was an entire Curb Your Enthusiasm episode once, season 10, episode seven, about being a Jets fan. And it was called, I think, the ugly section. Nick Kroll was the maitre d'. And part of the episode was about, he would put these people in different sections of the restaurant, depending on how attractive they were. But there was this other plot, Larry's buddy who loved the Jets, kills himself. And Larry becomes convinced it was because of the Jets, that the Jets killed his friend. This was only a couple of years ago. So now they get Aaron Rodgers, and everything's good. And they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I don't see it, guys. I don't wanna step on my football stuff too much, but I'd be shocked. And Lombardi points out the defense that everybody's ready to compare to the 85 Bears. Lombardi said they had two turnovers over the last eight games last season. So that means something too. I am dubious, to say the least. If you're gonna tell me a tortured franchise actually turns it around this year, I want a tortured franchise that doesn't have expectations. Because the Lions are another one. Everybody's ready to put them in the Super Bowl or close. And the only case for them is just pretty explosive offense. They couldn't stop anybody last year. And the NFC is terrible. But that's another one where is that a fan base that should be super excited and have a ton of hype? The one that's kind of lurking that fits in this group is the Browns. Because the Browns are actually super talented. They're in a winnable division. Burroughs already hurt. And I think they're four to one to win the AFC North on FanDuel, something like that. Their over -under is, I think it climbed up.
Bruce Pearl: Intensity on the Court, Calmness off the Court
"Being at the Tennessee game this year. Bruce last question we'll get to the hard stuff I promise. But listen on howdy I've been to the game. It is the environment is so crazy like I can't even describe it. You're not even experiencing anything like that in pro sports. sorry I'm you're not I love the pros but it's just college sports are just different because everybody's here for a reason. Charles Barkley walked in Auburn alum the energy in that place a serious question because I'm 48 I'm getting old and you're running up and down the sidelines like you're living and dying with every shot if they've watched you at an Auburn game. You're not sitting down for a second. How do you calm down without having a heart attack after these games? You're in the mix man. know You the good thing about it is Dan is that's why I'm in practice too and so what what the guys see is they see my level of intensity you know when we're playing when the ball in those 40 minutes when we're between the lines. I walk off the court and calm I can down pretty quickly I'm just like anybody else but look if one step on the floor it's on like it is totally on and we're not taking possessions off and we're not going to rest on defense and that's how I coach and I do that for a division two game or I do that in practice they never
Kreider helps Rangers beat Devils 5-2 to force Game 7
"The range is forced to decisive game 7 by beating the devil's 5 two in game 6 of their opening round series. The Devils led one nothing late in the first period, but the range is tied in the final minute when Chris quite a redirected meek is the bandages shot on the power play. The bandage ad then scored his first of the series midway through the second period to give New York a lead it never relinquished. The winds are all the matters and we got the win that we needed and wanted tonight and now we just keep going. Vladimir tarasenko Barkley gadol and Braden Schneider also scored for the rangers who got 34 saves from E grocery and gold. Game 7 Monday in New Jersey. Time area of New York.
Mexico Authorities Arrest Suspects in Murders of US Nationals
"All right, so let me get to this topic here at Mexico authorities arrest the suspect in the kidnapping and murder of U.S. nationals. And, you know, just kind of listening to the story as it unfolded. It seemed like this was an accidental or not accidental, but a misdiagnosis. Or a misidentification. I'm a read this article real quick, it's Mexico authorities arrest the suspect Tuesday alleging alleged ties to the kidnapping of four Americans last weekend leaving two dead after crossing the U.S. Mexico border. Jose Guadalupe with an inn, I don't know what that means. A Mexican national in his early 20s was guarding a small wooden house outside the city where cartel members held the Americans when authorities detained him. Authorities have not confirmed if Guadalupe is involved in the cartel suspect or suspected of kidnapping the U.S. nationals. shahid, I think a shaed, woodard, and Zendaya Brown. According to official Mexican Mexico's state officials, they discovered the victims kidnapped by a gunman and they were taking and I think they were killed instantly, at least at the initial stop. So it's interesting to see this happen. It's interesting to see how we respond to this, you know, this is everyday life in Mexico in my personal opinion and some of these states where they just killing and dealing. And they have no mercy on people they'll kill you they'll kidnap you they'll do all kinds of stuff to you. You know, I was seeing articles in years ago where they had a whole bus load of kids all killed and buried in a shallow grave. I mean, a bus, a bus full of kids. School kids at a school. They killed all of them, beheaded them and put them in a grave. On the side of the road,
Doocy Presses Jean-Pierre On Fighting Drug Cartels
"All right, ladies and gentlemen, I want to just point out lying gene pia, she lied, I heard rear end when it comes to fentanyl. And I have a clip of her line, 'cause I don't want you just to believe me. Let's roll a clip of gene Pierre. I think it's clip one. So cartels kill Americans on this side of the border with drugs. And now they're killing Americans on the other side of the border with guns. Why is President Biden so comfortable with cartels operating so close to the U.S.? Well, let's be very clear. Let me take on the drug part here because since you brought this up because of the work that this president has done because of what we've done specifically on fentanyl at the border, it's at historic lows. Historic levels that we have been able to record a number of personnel working to secure the border because of what we've been able to do. Seizing that fentanyl. We've done it in a historic way. That's because of what this president has done. I just talked about 23,000 federal agents that have been able to be that we've been able to hire and put at the border to secure the border. On top of that, historic sanctions going after traffickers and other financiers are helping disrupt fentanyl supply chains throughout their flow to the U.S. and we're really expanded access to treatments like that are saving lives. If you think about it, which prevent overdoses, expanding as our fentanyl test strips. And through the removal of the X waiver, anyone registered to prescribe control medications can now prescribe lifesaving medication to treat addiction. So again, we are seizing fentanyl at record historic levels because of what because of what the president has done to secure our border. Okay, I could not wait for her to stop lying.
Charles Barkley Slams Kendrick Perkins for 'Racists' Comments
"Let me read this head and I'm real quick. It says Hall of Fame basketball player Charles Barkley ripped into Kendrick Perkins, suggesting that race plays a role in the NBA MVP, voting when it comes to the Denver Nuggets, the center, Nikola jokic. Jokic, jokic. You know I'm from America, jokic. And the funny thing is the criticism that racist Kendrick Perkins had made mention of was he was criticizing yo kitsch. He was criticizing Dirk Nowitzki and Steve Nash. And the funny thing is is that none of them are white Americans. them. And it's funny because white Americans sit on the board of the voting for MVP and I don't have they ever voted for a white American to be of MVP of a basketball of the NBA. I mean, I'll say from starting from 1990 because he went since 1990 to the present day, there has never been a white American that have been, I voted MVP in the NBA. None. racist Kendrick Perkins is a complete maniac and idiot in my personal opinion. And it makes black people folks look bad. I mean, we look dumb. Sitting on TV, making all that money, and we trying to claim that white people are racist, yet the white people we claim are racist, vote for black people more than white people. And they vote for white people who are not American more than white Americans. So if anything, they're excluding white Americans from the MVP voting. But I'm going to play with Charles Barkley said and if anybody out there that's listening, if you can get me in contact with Charles Barkley, I would love to sit down and smoke a cigar and interview charged Barclay because I just really appreciate his perspective even though I don't agree with everything. I appreciate people that keep it real. And Charles Barkley, I know he live here in Arizona. I saw him at the airport one year, but I wasn't able to follow up with him. However, if you know him, I want to interview him and talk to him about this whole thing. But I'm going to play the clip from Charles Barkley. I don't remember which number it is, but let's roll clip two. I think I got it. Clip two. If only 5 white guys have won MVP in the last 30 years, that makes zero sense if argument. Zero sense. Because if that was the case, we'd have a lot more white MVPs. Those and it's a little short clip of what Charles Barkley said. I know he probably said a lot. I mean, in the article that I have here, and I'm not going to say these words on a radio, but he said, he's pretty sure that the other gentleman jokic, is that how you say his name? That jokic don't give a, you know what about these idiots on television?
Arizona Bill Banning Critical Race Theory in Schools Goes to Hobbs
"Arizona Bill has passed to ban not passed. It is past Senate and now has gone up to Katie Hobbs that you know what going up to her desk for her to pass. Now, since the Arizona Bill ban critical race theory in schools narrowly passing in the Senate, now it goes on to Katie Hobbs, this Katie Hobbs is the governor of the state of Arizona, the state that I live in and I'm very disappointed that she's an absolute nut. And she's not even qualified. She's like an immature woman baby. That's walking and woke. And we're going to see what she did with this bill. She considered the bill that it would be as sponsored, say, preventing schools from teaching critical race theory, Senate Republicans voted 16 to 14 to pass SB 1305 to prevent critical racial bias education plans. They sent it to Katie Hobbs desk. We'll see if Katie Hobbs actually do her job like she's supposed to because the people elected the Senate, the Senate came up with the bill so the government should pass the bill. If she got any sense whatsoever, and in my personal opinion, I think it's invaluable for us to consider never teaching critical race theory. You can teach history. You can teach black history. You can teach American history which black history is American history. But to teach kids, this theory that no matter what you do in life, no matter where you come from, no matter how many aspirations you have, you will never be able to maximize because the white man would never let the black man get a hand up.
May the Best Man Win
"I don't care what you could be in a wheelchair with no legs, and you can't even talk. If you can produce, then I want you to be in that position. Even if, you know, I don't believe in the homosexual lifestyle or anything like that. But may the best man win. In my personal opinion, I made the best woman win. I prefer people who are Christians. I prefer people who do the right thing. But at the end of the day, if you ain't a Christian and you can still get the job done, then I prefer the job getting done versus a religious person or a Christian person who ain't doing Jack. IE Mitt Romney, the Cyrus Mormon Christian on Planet Earth with no backbone, completely feckless. I prefer not to have him in office, even if a person was secular. They probably can do better than what Mitt Romney and some of these airheads who are in the Republican Party are representing. So let me just end it with this because I got to get to the break. I think Donald Trump is going in the right direction, but I would like to see Larry elder as his vice president over Carrie Lake Kerry Lake, I love you. I wish that you were the governor of the state of Arizona and I would vote for you again when you run.
A Donald Trump, Kari Lake Ticket?
"Donald Trump considers Carrie Lake running as his VP. I think that's the best. And let me just say this, right? There's two sides to this conversation that's two sides to my idea of this conversation. The one side is that who would I want? I want the baddest, the most conservative, boldest individuals running as president and vice president. Not only other side of it is that, you know, will it be too much of a polarizing ticket for these other people that just haven't caught up to speed with what's really going on in the world. So I think it's a tremendous opportunity for the red the red meat for the base because Carrie Lake is just as bold just as courageous as Donald Trump and I think that if you talk about somebody that take no prisoners, somebody that getting your face that'll take down a deep state, then Donald Trump on the male side is the dominant one and Carrie Lake on the female side is the dominant one. I really think that Carrie Lake could run for president and have a competitive chance over some of the other women that are in the race.
CEO of X2, Mark French, on How His Product Has Disrupted the Market
"Now. A couple of questions. I have here for you one. Is you guys are operating this business. And i would say that it is. It is disruptive what you're doing from what i can tell. The brand seems to be disruptive. What do you accredit the the rapid growth to do. What do you attribute the rapid growth to why is it. Being such a disruptive success. I would say there's more people coming to the category now right so there's certain people that would never try an energy drink right that more health conscious consumer really was not interested in putting in other bodies some of these beverages that had you know some you know ingredients that you can't even pronounce so as more people. Are you know looking for energy solutions. Whether it's a coffee drinker. That wants something. A little bit cleaner lighter Or you know somebody that might be drinking other energy drinks but is trying to live a healthier lifestyle. You know. i think that's really where the disruption comes in also. There's never really been a brand that you know was built in the locker room in this energy category right so you know. We're really fortunate that Death net recently featured us as a sports drink. Innovator we're not really a sports drink. We're not a hydration drink or something that you might take Before you want to do some exercise or if you wanna just have a little bit more energy and focus throughout the workday but you wanna have it with clean healthy ingredients and you know the other reason why people might consider us to be somewhat. Disruptors is just because of you know this athlete a model. there really haven't been athletes like saquon. Barkley labonte david kawhi leonard and now kendall tool who's one of the top peleton athletes That are joining a company like ours as shareholders and partners in the business. I think it's just you know shedding some light that there is renovation innovation in the energy category and that's where we could probably be looked at as being somewhat
New York Giants RB Saquon Barkley Questionable to Play vs. Denver Broncos
"Saquon. Barkley is listed as questionable after practicing all week. But i think really laura what they're saying to us is we have to list them on the injury report. The we expect saquon barkley to play on sunday against the denver broncos. I do not expect him however to be his normal one hundred percent workload self. The giants are being smart with him as they have all off season
Charles Barkley Calls out Rich Paul and Klutch Sports for Manipulating the NBA
"Clutches able to come up with a solution to this that gets darryl what he needs. That gets them to a place that he'd like to be in an doesn't adversely impact the sixers fortunes in the east. And you know helps other players along the way. I keep hearing like weird names. Cleveland might have an angle minnesota's by favorite getaway any of their assets the minnesota in sacramento ones. Have that kind of logic of of those Folks in those offices have history with daryl. So you know that there they can have conversations and there's absolutely no reason whatsoever for the sixers do a goddamn thing before training camp before the season starts is the best thing about this before the trade deadline. I mean i think that they're well positioned to just chill for a bit. Here's what barkley said on the mike mass analysis show. He's talked about clutch. Was you know how that group works. They try to trade their players to where they want to anthony davis. They had better deals from boston. Maybe even new york. They're like no he's gonna play with. Lebron is not gonna play. They just bullied. The league team. Got to stand up and say i paid your guy. He can't bully me a trade him and meet and have me take some trash back. I'm hoping somebody in the sixers organization got some stones barkley said we have not seen a team degan before and the quick thing you know. There's a persecution complex of them look for so amid this point the most powerful agent is always the least popular agent. David falk in the nineties was basically presented as the anti christ and blame for every bad thing that happened the league in the nineties. Scott boras same thing in baseball. Everybody had scott boras when you're the top agent near attached to the top guy and you're swinging elbows and get clydes what you want and do all that stuff. You're gonna take shit. I don't like some of the stuff they do at the same time. This is a referendum on them right. What how much power do they actually have. Because in this case philly has no trade.